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From YouTube: Committee of the Whole 1-26-2022
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The Committee of the Whole of the Council of the City of Philadelphia held a Public Hearing on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, at 10:00 AM to hear testimony on the following item:
220003 An Ordinance amending Chapter 20-500 of The Philadelphia Code, entitled “Councilmanic Districts,” by revising the boundaries of the Councilmanic Districts, under certain terms and conditions.
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Thank
you
before
we
begin
testimony
from
the
witnesses
we
have
today.
Everyone
has
been
invited
to
the
meeting.
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testify
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aware
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for
the
questions
or
comments
they
have
for
witnesses.
I
will
know
for
the
record
at
this
time.
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We
will
use
the
chat
feature
available
in
microsoft's
teams
to
allow
members
to
signify
that
they
wish
to
be
recognized
in
order
to
comply
with
the
sunshine
act.
The
chat
feature
must
only
be
used
for
this
particular
purpose.
Mr
christmas,
we
are
before
you
call
the
next
with
I'm
gonna
we're
gonna
give
three
minutes.
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It
was
a
fun
process
to
go
through
with
leaders
seeing
how
far
and
close
we
travel
in
community
and
another
our
everyday
lives
leaders
were
shocked
to
see
how
dense
some
areas
were
compared
to
others,
but
this
process
took
months.
It
took
time
thinking
and
thought
people
drew
these
maps
together
and
compared
them
to
come
up
with
what
we
thought
was
best
for
the
community
city
council
now
wants
to
get
this
done
in
a
matter
of
weeks,
which
seems
like
something
that
will
just
be
thrown
together.
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Our
people's
voices
are
being
shut
out
once
again
to
our
community.
This
is
something
bigger.
Having
an
input
in
our
everyday
lives
shouldn't
be
a
question.
This
is
not
a
job
that
should
be
done
just
by
city
council
alone.
This
is
one
of
many
jobs
that
should
be
done
by
the
community
city.
Council
already
has
a
head
with
a
drawing
line
to
keep
their
power
and
we're
here
to
make
sure
that
this
process
goes
in
a
more
fair
and
democratic
way.
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There
is
no
reason
that
one
neighborhood
block
should
have
two
council
people
to
deal
with.
This
should
be
some
that
should
be
left
in
the
hands
of
the
community.
History
has
shown
us
this
more
community
input
should
be
something
that
you
lean
towards
anyway.
This
is
another
example
of
how
they
think
we're
going
to
let
y'all
take
power
away
from
us.
It's
not
going
to
happen.
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What
we
want
is
time
time.
Let's
say
we
actually
put
thought
into
this
process.
Two
weeks
is
not
enough
time.
We
want
this
to
seem
like
a
fair
process
from
period
maps
to
ours,
give
us
time
for
feedback.
The
community
needs
to
have
their
feed
their
input
being
heard.
How
are
we
going
to
make
sure
that
your
consistence
are
being
heard?
That's
what
we
want
to
know
today.
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N
My
experience
of
building
our
unity
maps,
which
are
a
visual
aid
of
how
we
draw
their
their
ideas
of
how
what
legislative
match
should
be
was
surprisingly
easy
and
fulfilling
these
maps
included.
Taking
down
where
people
go
to
worship,
grocery
shop
go
to
school
and
work.
I
thought
this
was
going
to
be
a
cumbersome
campaign,
but
in
reality
people
were
appalled
at
how
they
weren't
involved
in
the
process.
I
used
my
own
experience
to
build
connections
with
these
people
to
get
them
to
build
these
maps
with
us.
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So
a
little
about
my
story
is
I
I
was
incarcerated
for
a
decade
and
a
half,
and
during
that
time
legislative
districts
were
being
redrawn.
The
practice
known
as
prison,
gerrymandering
used
myself
and
those
I
was
incarcerated
with
for
their
township
all
the
way
up
in
those
mountains.
This
gave
them
additional
resources
and
political
power.
Meanwhile,
my
hometown,
north
philadelphia,
was
being
disenfranchised
from
the
same
resources
and
political
power.
They
they
were.
They
were
rightfully
should
have
people
needed
to
fix
their
schools
and
recreation
centers
for
their
children.
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They
had
no
idea
that
this
was
going
on
and
were
appalled
that
this
was
but
people
were
highly
motivated
to
get
involved
and
change.
This
they
got
educated
took
the
time
to
think
about
it
and
spread
the
word
about
it.
We
would
we
would
be
there
taken
about
talking
about
this
and
they
wanted
to
to
know
about
this
as
quick
as
possible
and
spread
the
word
because
they
they
felt
left
out.
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We
live
in
a
city
in
a
state
that
set
a
precedent
in
2020
the
2020
20
election,
well,
not
only
to
and
to
ensure
the
loss
of
trump
loss,
but
how
to
defend
elections
from
authoritarian
and
anti-democratic
forces.
We
set
a
precedent
then,
and
then
we
can
set
a
precedent
now,
but
not
including,
but
not
including
people
in
the
redistricting
process
is
not
to
be,
is,
is
to
be
anti-democratic.
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I
actually
tried
to
get
involved
in
this
process
early
and
I
had
reached
out
to
try
to
get
a
sense
of
when
things
were
scheduled
when
there
were
going
to
be
community
meetings
when
there
was
going
to
be
input
sessions,
and
I
kind
of
got
punted
a
couple
of
times
and
then
lo
we
have
today's
hearing
about
maps
that
are
already
drawn
so
just
to
kind
of
echo.
What
people
before
me
have
said
I
did.
I
did
find
the
process
of
of
having
community
input
to
be
a
little
frustrating.
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You
know
there
have
been
numerous
instances
where
there's
just
been
a
lot
of
confusion,
and
I
think
that
this
is
what
everybody
in
philadelphia
often
feels
when
their
community
is
split
between
councilmanic
districts,
who
responds
to
what
who
gets.
Who
do
we
reach
out
to
for
a
response
or
for
assistance
with
anything,
so
at
least
for
our
community,
if
it
can
be
at
least
upheld
as
an
example
of
maybe
when
it's
done
better
and
we
we
see
the
map
the
new
map
as
being
beneficial
to
us,
our
portion
of
the
neighbor
of
philadelphia.
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I
come
today
as
a
concerned
citizen
who
was
like
many
that
believed
their
voice
mattered
participated
alongside
our
fellow
community
members.
One
pa
build
a
unity
map,
a
community,
a
community
driven
process
that
envisioned
what
redistricting
could
look
like
when
the
community
is
in
charge
of
the
map.
Drawing
this
was
submitted
to
the
lrc
for
their
state
redistricting.
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A
process
we
believe
would
best
represent
our
philadelphia,
our
philadelphia,
a
properly
divided
map
by
the
constituents
in
which
it
serves
over
150
members
and
many
of
our
youth.
Like
myself,
participated
in
the
drawing
of
these
maps.
This
was
the
first
time
filling
a
part
of
a
process.
They
felt
had
a
direct
impact
on
their
lives
power
as
an
individual
and
their
future.
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While,
while
this
process
had
its
flaws,
we
can
say
that
the
state
maps
do
reflect
our
input
and
we
were
happy
that
that
was
the
case
only
to
turn
and
have
our
city
council
decide
that
their
process
will
take
a
few
weeks
with
only
one
public
comment
opportunity
when
people
are
alienated
like
this.
It's
no
wonder.
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People
feel
like
their
voice,
doesn't
matter
and
furthering
the
narrative
of
why
youth
don't
vote
representation
is
supposed
to
mean
our
voice
are
properly
heard
and
not
shut
out,
as
if
we
lack
value
how
districts
are
drawn,
should
not
only
depend
on
developers
and
where
they
want
to
where
they
want
new
property
to
be
built.
The
power
these
power
dynamics
shouldn't
drastically
change
future
elections.
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Most
importantly,
my
community
and
communities
like
mines
have
the
space
to
work
collectively
and
have
the
real
world
power
to
see
our
equal
share
of
political
and
policies
prioritized
ushered
into
law.
This
is
this
is
what
true
democracy
looks
feels
and
breathes
like.
We
ask
that
you
all
don't
rush,
don't
outsource
for
solutions,
but
work
with
the
people
of
the
city,
some
of
whom
voted
you
all
in
those
very
seats,
learn
from
the
community.
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G
Our
sisters
and
brothers
come
home
within
those
10
years.
The
census
allocations
will
remain
and
the
prisoners
counting.
We
can't
afford
that
with
social
justice,
we
will
gain
more
votes
in
our
communities
because
we
will
have
bigger
population
counts
when
we
end
prison
theory
mandarin
in
philadelphia.
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Our
communities
are
starving
for
resources,
support
services
and
better
roads.
We
need
affordable
housing,
aka
750
a
month
for
a
one-bedroom
cova
inflation
is
taking
deeper
tolls
on
our
communities.
We
need
all
of
our
senses.
Our
allocations
philadelphia
can
take
a
huge
step
in
ending
the
violence
in
our
city
by
ending
the
practice
of
prison
gerrymandering
we've
restored
the
social
justice
of
our
sense
of
allocation.
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P
You
know
I
personally
reached
out
and
contacted
various
voter
organizations,
so
I
received
some
information,
but
even
with
that,
even
with
being
somebody
who's
actively
trying
to
follow
the
process,
I
still
getting
information
was
very,
very
difficult,
so
it
definitely
feels
like
there
needs
to
be
much
better
communication
on
the
process
to
the
general
public.
I
don't
know
how
the
average
person
would
have
any
idea
what's
going
on
with
redistricting,
because
I'm
actively
following
it
and
it's
hard
for
me
to
know.
What's
going
on.
P
The
second
issue
I
wanted
to
bring
up
was
last
year
at
the
beginning
of
the
process.
I
had
heard
that
their
the
plan
was
to
no
longer
count
incarcerated
persons
in
the
districts
where
the
prison
is
located
and
instead
count
them
in
their
home
districts.
And
now
I'm
hearing
that
that
is
not
going
to
be
the
case,
and
I
mean
this
seems
like
a
massive
issue.
First
off
it
just
flies
in
the
face
of
democracy.
P
You
have
this
population
of
people
that
is
essentially
being
forced
against
their
will
to
live
in
a
certain
part
of
the
state
and
then
you're
saying
that
they
are
quote
unquote
residents
of
that
district,
even
though
they
have
no
choice
no
agency
in
the
matter.
This
seems
antithetical
to
democracy.
It
also
seems
antithetical
to
the
whole
process,
because
now,
theoretically,
you're
putting
power
into
the
hands
of
prison
officials
to
decide
representation
and
funding,
it
may
seem
far-fetched.
But
theoretically
you
could
have
a
prison
administrator
moving
prisoners
around
and
determining
population
and
representation.
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Good
morning,
members
of
city
council,
my
name
is
pat
christmas.
I'm
the
policy
director
for
the
committee
of
70..
I
do
apologize
that
I
may
not
be
speaking
all
that.
Clearly,
I'm
coming
two
weeks
off
of
jaw
surgery
and
my
teeth
are
bound
shut,
so
I'll.
I
will
try
to
enunciate
my
words
this
morning
with
the
with
the
time
available.
I
would
just
like
that
to
highlight
several
points
in
the
written
testimony
we
shared
with
council
and
the
preliminary
report
we
shared
with
council
several
weeks
ago.
H
That
is
the
culmination
of
work
that
goes
back
six
months
now
with
members
of
the
community
across
the
city
of
philadelphia.
This
involved
virtual
workshops
of
community
meetings
across
the
city
survey.
Work
people
really
do
care
a
great
deal
about
this
issue
and
this
process,
as
we've
heard
already
this
morning,
you
know
we
we
do
understand.
H
H
Of
our
top
level,
finding
that
I'd
like
to
highlight
that
keeping
communities
whole,
which
was
really
the
top
priority.
We
hear
this
constantly
around
congressional
districts
constantly
around
legislative
districts,
and
this
is
what
folks
want
to
see
and
in
the
city
council
map.
This
means
keeping
neighborhoods
full
keeping
ethnic
and
language
groups
whole
keeping
business
corridors
full
to
the
greatest
exit
possible.
Now,
there's
no
perfect
map
out
there
there's
no
way
you
could
possibly
keep
every
community
hall
across
the
city
and
also
satisfy
population
equality
performance.
But
you
know
when
you.
M
H
At
any
given
mapping
proposal,
you
gotta
ask
what
is
it
trying
to
achieve
and
that's
and
that's
the
question
we
should
ask
about
and
that
was
put
forward.
Last
week
we
shared
just
an
alternative
sample
map
and
our
written
testimony
any
amount
of
support.
That's
the
big
question:
what
is
it
trying
to
achieve?
So
you
know
there
are
a
number
of
different
complications
on
that
and
this
this
is
also,
admittedly,
not
easy.
H
It
is
not
easy
to
draw
a
solid
map,
but
there
are
complications
around
oxford
circle
and
castor
avenue
base
foot
a
little
bit
in
omni
and
then
one
of
the
most
parts
of
the
city,
of
course,
is
kensington
court
richmond,
fish
tender,
the
liberties
and
east
and
south
kent
in
particular,
so
that
that
said,
you
know
there
are
all
sorts
of
variations
about
how
around
how
we
can
do
this.
I
will
also
note
that
in
many
parts
of
the
city
we
heard
that
folks
are
okay
with
the
boundaries
where
they
are
right.
H
The
cores
of
these
districts
have
been
the
same
for
decades.
Many
philadelphians
don't
want
to
move
the
district's
boundaries
nearby
them,
which
sometimes
makes
things
easier
and
sometimes
makes
things
harder.
So
I
would
just
I
would
urge
this
body
to
consider
the
observations
we
shared
in
our
written
testimony.
The
observations
we
listen
or
report
and
give
give
them
some
degree
of
weight.
H
H
Okay,
thank
you
now
that
the
state,
the
state
adjusted
prison
data.
That's
already
available,
just
got
to
load
that
in
the
mapping
platform.
This
isn't
that
the
city
adjust
the
data.
They
have
to
require
us
to
work
with
the
kennedy
administration,
but
that's
completely
possible.
The
address
data
is
there.
It
just
requires
some
time
to
reallocate
those
individuals
who
are
held
during
2020
after
their
home
district.
H
B
Thank
you
for
your
testimony,
appreciate
it.
I
just
want
to
say
I
was
prepared
to
just
not
comment
this
issue
with
respect
to
the
redistricting
process,
and
I
don't
know
like
in
the
state
or
federal
city
council
does
have
the
ability
to
alter
its
district
in
the
interim
year.
So
it's
not
like.
We
can't
do
anything
until
the
next
census
10
years
ago.
We
traditionally
don't
do
that,
but
this
whole
issue
around
prison
population
causes
me
to
speak
about
this.
B
If
there's
somehow
ruled
that
the
prison
population
will
ultimately
be
assigned
to
the
origin
of
that
individual,
there
is
the
ability.
So
that's
not
I'm
not
saying
that's
what's
going
to
happen,
but
we
have
the
ability
to
change
after,
but
we
must
have
this
done
by
the
12
within
the
deviation,
and
we
also
if
there
are
any
additional
changes
in
the
interim
time
frame,
it
still
must
meet
that
the
deviation
requirements
by
law.
B
So
I
just
want
to
say
that
for
the
record-
because
I
know
there's
been
a
number
of
questions
about
prison
population-
and
you
know-
we
agree-
should
be
counted
and
we
know
why
I
was
done.
It
was
about
bringing
goods
and
services
to
that
particular
community,
where
the
prisons
ended
up
being
built.
That
was
part
of
a
process
that
was
intentional,
but
thank
you
miss
christmas
call.
The
next
name
alex
malone
good
morning
take
your
name
for
the
record,
see
where
your
testimony.
I
Sorry,
I'd
take
my
phone
off
here.
Can
you
hear
me
now?
Yes,
we
can
okay,
my
name
is
alexandra
malone.
I
live
in
the
second
district
and
I
was
calling
I'm
not
calling
on
behalf
of
any
organization,
I'm
calling
on
my
own
just
a
few
quick
points,
because
some
of
these
have
already
been
stated.
I
was
calling
that
this
map
should
be
redone
on
the
basis
that
we
are
still
prison
gerrymandering.
Meanwhile,
the
state
redistricting
commission
has
voted
to
end
that
practice.
I
So
when
the
state,
which
is
not
known
for
creating
well-balanced
districts
that
are
representative
and
which
is
currently
going
on
in
harrisburg
right
now,
is
moving
to
end
prison
gerrymandering,
the
city
shouldn't
also
still
be
doing
that
practice.
I
think
that
that
is
bad
both
for
democracy
and
also
just
on
an
ethical
basis.
I
I
was
also
calling
that
there's
a
which
was
raised
in
an
enquirer
article
there's
a
problem
where
the
map
is
not
within
10
percentage
points
of
each
other,
which
is
a
problem
since
the
supreme
court
ruled
on
that.
The
fourth
district
would
be
10.2
points
smaller
than
the
sixth
district,
which
is
technically
a
violation
of
that
principle,
which
would
expose
the
city
to
legal
challenge.
Should
the
map
be
brought
to
court,
which
would
be
a
needless
expense
for
the
city
at
the
moment,
and
it's
just
a
needless
error.
I
It's
very
easily
correctable,
and
then
I
was
my
final
point
was
that
the
the
map
is
not
very
compact.
It's
legally
breaking
up
various
districts.
Well,
it's
very
immediately
breaking
up
various
neighborhoods,
very
bizarrely,
such
as
where
the
third
district
is
now
crossing
the
schuylkill
river
and
taking
a
small
chunk
of
brewery
town
fishtown.
Northern
libs
is
being
sliced
and
diced
into
multiple
different
districts,
but
that's
one
of
the
fastest
growing
areas
of
the
city.
I
The
second
district
crosses
broad
street
and
takes
a
bizarre
chunk
of
hawthorne,
and
the
third
in
the
second
district
have
a
weird
shape
around
only
park
where
it
almost
looks
like
the
second
district
is
trying
to
bite
downward
felmwood
park
off
of
the
off
of
the
map,
and
this
as
this
isn't
very
compact,
and
that
just
results
in
bad.
It
results
in
all
sorts
of
election
gainery
which
anyone
can
go
and
look
up
on
their
own
if
they're
curious
on
to
why
the
mathematics
of
that
works
out.
Q
Hey
guys,
my
name
is
alex
stein.
I
live
in
district
2.
and
the
reason
why
I'm
you
know
here
today
to
speak
is
because,
like
our
vaccination
numbers
in
the
black
community
is
terrible,
it's
absolutely
ridiculous
and
we
need
to
somehow
figure.
How
can
we
get
those
numbers
up
and
one
way
that
our
research
is
showing
is
that
a
lot
of
black
people
are
having
hesitation
because
of
the
tuskegee
syphilis
experiment
and
so
listen?
I
have
a
lot
of
white
guilt
as
a
professional
myself.
You
know,
sir.
I
hate
sir.
Yes
one.
Q
Q
It's
we
are
using
black
people
as
pawns
in
a
chess
game
that
only
benefits
white
people,
and
if
you
cannot
see
that
that
you
can
see
the
vaccination
numbers
are
a
clear
representation
of
that,
because
people
are
afraid
because
things
like
the
tuskegee
syphilis
experiment,
you
know
from
1942
to
1972
they
injected
black
sharecroppers
with
syphilis,
and
then
they
even
had
to
cure
for
it
penicillin,
and
they
still
didn't
give
it
to
him
because
they
wanted
to
spread
the
disease
and
as
a
white
man,
it
was
white
people.
That
did
that.
Q
So
I
have
a
lot
of
guilt
and
now
I'm
seeing
this
gerrymandering
stuff,
it
almost
makes
me
really
depressed
and
emotional,
because
I'm
saying
once
again,
the
white
man
is
is
obviously
causing
all
these
issues
and
we
just
we
really
have
to
even
score.
I
don't
know
how
we
do
it,
but,
like
I
look
at
george
floyd
as
a
great
representation
of
of
you
know,
he's
like
my
personal
hero.
We
need
more
george
floyd's.
We
only
have
one
george
floyd.
We
need
a
new
george
floyd,
that's
how
we
fix
these
problems.
Q
That's
how
we
fix
the
gerrymandering.
It's
not
going
to
be.
Oh
one
small
thing
in
a
philly
city
council,
meaning
he's
going
to
fix
it.
No,
we
need,
like
somebody
new
somebody
hot
like
you
know,
I
don't
even
know
like
tupac.
We
need
like
a
new
tupac
to
help
us,
and
so
you
know
what
I'm
trying
to
do
is
like.
I
want
to
make
the
gerrymandering
laws
cool.
I
don't
want
to
be
a
fool.
I
go
swimming
in
the
pool
because
I'm
feeling
cool.
How
do
you
feel?
Yes,
I
am
white.
No,
that's
not
right.
Q
I
got
a
lot
of
guilt
for
the
things
that
I
did.
Yes,
it
was
a
sin.
Am
I
going
to
hell?
I
gotta
make
bail
jail.
Reform
is
very
important.
We
got
to
get
the
haters
out
of
jail.
Can
they
make
bail?
I'm
a
bail
bondsman?
Yes,
you
can
try
me
don't
deny
me
I'm
trying
to
help.
I
got
the
guilt
on
my
chest,
I'm
not
the
best
and
I'm
emotionally
wrecked.
I
can't
sleep
at
night,
I'm
constantly
up.
I
have
17
cats.
Q
Q
Q
A
A
A
R
This
is
just
thank
you
so
much
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
testify
today.
My
name
is
john
keating
and
I'm
a
democratic
committee
person
for
division,
1810
and
a
community
leader
here
in
fishtown,
I'm
testifying
today
because
I'm
concerned
about
what
has
been
proposed
for
the
18th
ward
map,
where
the
center
of
the
fishtown
neighborhood
is
once
again
proposed
to
be
split
into
three
different
council
districts.
R
I'm
requesting
that
council,
please
amend
the
map
to
make
the
18th
ward
districts
more
compact
and
keep
fishtown
together
as
one
neighborhood
one
of
the
top
priorities
that
I've
heard
from
many
other
people
in
our
community
long
time.
Neighbors,
neighborhood,
nonprofits
and
local
business
owners
over
the
years
has
been
to
undo
the
three-way
district
split
that
divides
our
neighborhood's
voice
in
city
politics
and
have
a
single
council
person
representing
fishtown.
R
For
example,
in
one
section
of
the
proposed
map
covering
the
sixth,
seventh
and
tenth
divisions
of
the
eighteenth
ward,
there's
a
point
one
mile
section,
where
a
pretty
typical
walk
through
the
neighborhood
would
have
neighbors
passing
through
three
separate
council
districts.
So
really
does
a
number
on
it,
but
yeah.
This
is
confusing
for
our
neighbors
and
it
makes
it
very
difficult
for
neighborhoods
in
the
ward
more
generally,
to
organize
and
ask
for
comprehensive
solutions
to
the
problems
that
we
need
to
solve
in
our
community.
R
The
corner
of
front
and
gerard
now
sits
at
the
intersection
of
three
council
districts
and
really
needs
some
comprehensive
attention,
but
currently
kind
of
gets
the
least
tender
loving
care
from
the
city.
So,
while
I
have
no
particular
preference
for
which
representative
would
represent
us,
I
would
prefer
that
the
fishtown
neighborhood
be
kept
whole
under
just
one
council
district
to
the
extent
possible,
or
at
least
be
made
more
compact
to
be
re
represented
by
the
fewest
possible
council
members.
R
I
would
suggest
looking
at
frankfurt
avenue
as
a
possible
district
boundary,
since
several
divisions
in
the
18th
ward
already
use
it
as
a
border,
and
it
would
make
it
easier
for
neighbors
to
understand
where
the
boundary
is.
So.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
testify,
and
I
hope
that
you
will
take
this
request
into
consideration
as
to
make
amendments
thanks.
P
B
P
P
S
I
hope
you
can
still
hear
me,
but
the
the
challenge
is
that
having
three
is
very
confusing
for
the
people.
I
work
with
the
people.
I
attempt
to
organize
the
people.
I
I
work
with
all
the
time.
I
I
take
my
kids
and
I
try
to
organize
for
better
recreation
facilities.
I
want
to
thank
everybody
again
for
the
rebuild
project
and
funding
process.
S
That's
helping
out
so
many
neighborhoods,
but
you
know
recess
and
recreation
opportunities
are
really
important
and
the
three
places
that
we
go
often
are
in
three
different
council
pres
council
districts.
If
I
walk
two
blocks
one
direction,
I'm
in
council
district,
seven
under
the
proposed
map,
if
I
walk
one
block
in
the
other
direction,
I'm
in
council
district
one
and
if
I
walk,
if
I
stay
where
I
am-
and
council
district
five
that
doesn't
really
help
us.
I
I
like
all
three
of
our
council
people.
S
I
would
prefer
one
of
them
no
offense
to
either
any
one
of
the
three,
but
I
would
prefer
one
of
them
because
I
think
it
would
really
help
our
neighborhood
and
help
our
residents
get
the
the
services
they
want
and
and
the
answers
the
accountability
they
deserve.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Oh
I'm!
I'm
testifying
on
bill
number
22003.
B
K
Good
morning
my
name
is
alfred
klosterman.
I
live
in
harrogate,
I'm
a
member
of
harrogate
civic
association,
though
today,
I'm
speaking
on
my
own
behalf
and
in
general,
the
community
has
been
pretty
upset
about
the
secrecy
about
all
the
redistricting
and
the
fact
that
there's
been
no
community
hearings
to
determine
what's
best
for
the
community.
K
K
K
The
the
fact
that
kensington
and
allegheny
that
commit
that
intersection
of
that
the
heart
of
the
community
would
be
represented
by
three
different
council
members
just
makes
no
sense,
and
other
speakers
today
have
said
the
same.
You
can't
have
an
intersection
represented
by
three
people
and
basically
that's
that's
the
whole
point
I
have
to
make
and
I'll
close
that
I
just
ask
you
to
please
allow
for
community
involvement
and
meetings.
You
know
don't
harm
us
like
this,
without
knowing
what
harm
you're
doing.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
Yes,
hello
good
morning,
council,
my
name
is
stephen
nelson.
I'm
calling
to
talk
about
the
same,
build
redistricting
that
everyone
else
has
been
referring
to
my
fiance
and
I
are
new
philadelphia
residents
in
germantown
I'm
here
today
to
provide
input
regarding
the
council's
proposed
maps.
As
as
already
noted,
the
proposed
map
may
be
challenged
as
violating
the
one
person
one
prince
one
person,
one
vote
principle
of
election
law
and
from
your
statements,
it's
clear
that
council
members
are
aware
of
the
potential
challenges,
legal
fees
and
possibility
of
the
maps
being
overturned.
I
I
would
just
like
to
provide
one
other
reason
to
avoid
adopting
that
map,
as
proposed
or
any
other,
that
that
violates
that
principle
of
the
10
beyond
those
concerns.
My
worry
with
those
districts
is
now
that
they'll
be
challenged
and
overturned,
but
they
will
be
challenged
and
it
will
provide
an
opportunity
for
this
supreme
court
to
reconsider
that
one
first
one
vote
principle:
while
the
supreme
court
unanimously
upheld
this,
as
recently
as
2016
justice,
thomas
concurred
in
that
decision
and
provided
reason,
I
think
for
concern
in
that
concurrence.
I
He
noted
that
the
majority
has
failed
to
provide
a
sound
basis
for
the
one
person
one
vote
principle,
because
no
such
basis
exists.
The
constitution
does
not
prescribe
any
one
basis
for
apportionment
within
the
state,
so
the
current
supreme
court,
with
its
three
newest
members,
especially
has
already
shown
it
does
not
have
high
regard
for
president.
So
I
would
urge
you
to
not
allow
them
an
opportunity
to
revisit
this
principle
at
all.
I
suspect
such
an
outcome
is
far
more
likely
to
be
into
the.
B
C
C
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
before
city
council
today,
I'm
a
longtime
resident
and
advocate
who
lives
in
east
mount
airy,
so
in
philadelphia.
Of
course,
I
am
proud
to
live
in
a
diverse
community
where
neighbors
work
together
to
address
issues
that
might
affect
their
lives.
I
am
act.
I
am
an
active
member
of
the
philadelphia
alumni
chapter
of
delta,
sigma
theta
sorority,
incorporated
coalition
of
100
black
women
pennsylvania
chapter
black
women's
leadership,
eon
tabernacle,
baptist
church,
where
I
serve
as
a
trustee
on
the
board.
C
Today
I
speak
as
a
voter
and
resident
of
the
eighth
councilmanic
district.
We
redistricting
is
the
process
of
redone
council
districts
every
10
years,
based
on
numerous
criteria,
including
population
and
geographical
boundaries.
The
process
of
redistricting
is
governed
by
the
united
states
constitution,
the
federal
voting
rights
act
of
1965,
as
well
as
state
constitutional
and
statutory
provisions.
C
C
Every
city
council
district
should
have
equal
representation.
The
proposed
map
shows
deviation
that
does
not
reflect
an
equal
division
of
each
councilmanic
district.
That
should
not
happen.
I
live
in
the
8th,
councilmanic
district
and
looking
at
those
numbers,
my
numbers
are
not
as
large
as
the
largest
councilmatic
district,
which
is
over
172
000..
C
C
C
The
practice
of
prison-based
gerrymandering
also
defies
logic.
Most
incarcerated
people
are
not
residents
of
the
district
where
they
are
incarcerated
and
have
no
social,
economic
or
civic
ties
to
the
communities.
Just
beyond
the
prison
walls,
in
essence,
the
voices
of
community
members
in
an
incarcerated
individual's
home
or
lessened
with
prison-based
gerrymandering.
C
B
Miss
miller
before
you
disconnect
thank
you
and
for
that
reference
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you
heard
what
I
said.
I
said
city
council
has
the
capability
in
the
interim
to
adjust
this
map
to
reflect
the
prison
population
issue.
So
I
I
don't
speak
for
everybody
on
city
council.
That's
why
I
said
we
have
the
authority
and
the
capability.
B
The
information
with
respect
to
the
prison
population
is
not
was
not
a
part
of
our
conversation
simply
because
we
did
not
have
that
information,
but
if
those
that
information
and
when
it
becomes
available
to
city
council,
if
the
members
decide
that
they
would
like
to
address
that
issue
based
on
the
shift
and
the
potential
impact
on
the
property,
that's
something
that
we
have
the
authority
to
do.
I
just
wanted
to
does.
B
T
North
good
morning,
council,
member
council
president
and
the
listening
philadelphian
taxpayers,
my
name
is
melissa,
robbins,
executive
director
of
near
northeast
against
racism.
I'm
testifying
on
bill
number
22003
to
be
clear.
It
is
not
enough
to
say
that
as
a
leader
you
stand
against
racism.
It
is
crucial
to
assume
the
position
of
an
anti-racist.
T
T
These
individuals
have
the
right
to
be
counted
in
their
own
perspective,
councilmanic
districts
based
on
their
home
address
of
record,
but
they
also
have
the
right
to
have
their
elected
leaders
advocate
on
their
behalf,
they're,
currently
being
counted
and
have
historically
been
counted
in
the
sixth
councilmanic
district,
which
is
primarily
made
up
of
white
residents
and
formerly
led
by
bobby
heenan.
I
don't
ever
recall
heaming
going
on
record
to
advocate
for
our
prison
population
or
suggesting
that
we
end
prison
gerrymandering.
T
These
practices
distort
political
representation
and
must
be
made
right.
We
have
elections
every
six
months
and
if
we
do
not
do
right
and
right,
this
particular
wrong
over
5000
people
will
be
will
continue
to
be
underrepresented
and
included
in
a
whiter
population
account
that
does
not
give
the
power
to
the
district
that
they
rightfully
belong
in.
T
I'm
also
extremely
disappointed
in
the
current
process
that
not
only
silences
the
voices
of
all
of
our
residents
but
does
not
allow
time
for
stakeholders
and
voters
to
understand
how
their
input
could
essentially
give
the
outcome
that
we,
the
people,
deserve
and
desire.
We
are
living
in
a
time,
whereas
our
rights
are
constantly
under
attack.
We
must
have
leadership
that
responsibly
leads
as
a
visionaries,
and
that
means
staying
ahead
of
our
challenges
by
keeping
our
taxpayers
informed
and
ensuring
that
we
are
always
a
part
of
the
public
process
like
we
see
in
our
surrounding
jurisdictions.
T
Again,
these
districts
are
primarily
white,
granting
more
power
to
the
districts
with
higher
median
incomes
and
salaries
and
those
who
are
newer
residents
to
our
city.
The
voices
of
those
of
us
who
have
been
here
for
decades
are
continued
silence
through
leadership,
and
that
does
not
acknowledge
the
plight,
the
pain
and
the
continued
oppression
of
the
black
people
in
this
city,
who
are
the
primary
people
who
are
in
poverty.
I
live
in
the
10th
councilmanic
district
and
can
never
go
to
my
council
person
because
he
doesn't
even
see
me
as
human.
T
T
We
cannot
continue
to
point
fingers
at
harrisburg
while
emulating
the
same
unfair
and
oppressive
practices
here
in
our
city,
not
everything
that
is
faced
and
be
changed,
but
nothing
that
can
be
changed.
Nothing
can
be
changed
until
it's
faced.
James
baldwin-
I
thank
you
all
today
for
hosting
this
hearing,
but
I
urge
you
to
include
the
voices
of
the
public
and
all
city
council
members
to
make
this
wrong
right.
Thank
you.
F
I
want
to
testify
against
how
this
whole
process
of
redistricting
and
drawing
maps
and
our
city
has
gone
building.
The
maps
that
represent
our
community
should
definitely
include
our
communities.
You
need
to
hear
from
us
the
community
about
our
ideas
of
how
we
think
our
community
looks
we're
the
ones
living
there
and
experiencing
this
lack
of
funding
and
lack
of
representation.
F
When
I
started
with
one
pa,
I
came
in
on
the
census
campaign,
we
educated
people
about
what
it
meant
and
why
it
was
important
learning
about
the
centers.
For
for
my
community
and
myself,
I
learned
about
what
it
meant
and
why
it
was
important.
We
urge
people
about
the
deadline
and
why
we
needed
to
get
it
done.
We
educated
people
on
all
of
the
steps
on
how
to
be
sure
that
everyone
was
counted
in
a
household
from
babies
to
people
incarcerated.
F
We
had
to
be
sure
that
the
number
was
accurate,
because
five
people
undercounted
is
five
people
underfunded.
After
the
number
came
out.
We
then
toured
people
about
the
process
of
redistricting
my
organization,
one
pa,
ran
a
campaign
to
build
unity.
Maps
with
our
community
people
were
ecstatic
to
take
part
and
draw
a
draft
on
what
their
everyday
district
looked
like
to
them.
We
had
a
month-long
process
about
how
to
redraw
these
maps
that
people
did
not
know
about.
F
It,
took
us
two
years
to
educate
and
build
that
foundation
of
trust
and
city
council
wants
to
do
all
of
this
in
two
weeks.
That's
two
different
time
frames.
We
need
time
to
educate
our
communities
about
this
process
and
to
hear
from
them.
This
process
is
unfair
and
does
not
accommodate
people
in
our
communities.
In
fact,
it
puts
us
back
into
the
same
poverty
we
faced
over
the
last
10
years.
F
Transparency
is
key
in
making
these
maps
true
assessments
of
what
our
communities
look
like,
including
those
who
can't
speak
for
themselves,
such
as
children
and
incarcerated
people,
spending
time
to
educate
and
clear
evaluations.
We
should
give
everyone
a
chance
to
vote
on
these
myths
for
the
next
upcoming
elections
in
2023,
2027
and
2031..
Yes,
2031.
seem
so
far
away
and
that's
why
we
have
to
make
these
maps
counts.
Thank
you.
J
Good
morning
my
name
is
rachel
robinson.
Thank
you
for
the
time
today
to
speak.
So
I
am
a
member
of
district
council,
three
I'm
represented
by
council
person
cartier.
I
just
wanna
thank
her
for
being
a
thoughtful
and
responsive,
responsive
council
person
and
the
reason
I
know
that
she's
not
phone
responsive
is
because
I
grew
up
in
a
city
that
did
not
have
thoughtful
and
responsive
representation,
because
it
was
a
city
that
was
split
among
representation.
J
J
J
We
have
districts
to
represent
neighborhoods
and
if
the
neighborhood
is
split
up,
it's
not
representing
that
neighborhood
and
that
neighborhood's
not
represented
and
that's
not
democracy,
and
we
need
democracy
in
our
city.
We
need
democracy
in
philadelphia
and
there's
other
places
like
it's,
not
just
ward
42.
Also,
ward
54
is
also
split
up,
neighborhoods
are
split
and
therefore
neighborhoods
aren't
represented,
and
that's
not
okay
for
for
philadelphia
to
run
without
the
voices
of
the
people.
I
also
think
that
this
process
of
redistricting
just
doesn't
make
sense.
J
Part
of
the
reason
that
I
find
council
president
gottier
to
be
so
responsive
is
that
she
was
chosen
by
the
people
just
the
third
district.
She
didn't.
She
like
she
chose
to
run,
but
she
didn't
get
to
choose
who
lived
in
the
third
district
and
when
we
have
this
process,
where
the
council
people
draw
the
maps,
you
guys
are
choosing
who
you
represent
and
that's
not
fair.
That's
not
democracy.
You
don't
get
to
choose
us,
we
choose
you,
and
so
I
don't
think
that
this
these
maps
should
be
drawn
by
you.
J
J
B
Thank
you,
councilwoman
there'll,
be
no
other
questions
from
members,
the
committee
and
the
witnesses
to
testify,
I
said.
Well,
I
asked
if
anyone
else
is
president
of
hearing
his
name.
We
have
failed
to
call
and
wishes
to
offer
testimony
in
the
bill
being
considered
today
and
hearing
none.
I
want
to
thank
all
the
witnesses
for
their
participation
today.
We
value
your
opinion,
believe
it
or
not.
We
really
do
well
now.
I
now
invite
all
witnesses
to
please
disconnect
from
the
hearing
before
we
go
into
our
public
meeting.
B
We
will
now
pause
the
proceeding
briefly
as
multiple
participants
leave
the
hearing.
I
do
want
to
say
we
got
elected
to
do
difficult,
a
difficult
job
and
we
love
the
fact
that
we
have
that
responsibility
to
do
a
difficult
job,
and
I
gotta
tell
you:
redistricting
is
a
very
challenging
job
in
terms
of
trying
to
reflect
the
values
of
all,
but
every
now
and
then
you
get
population
group
that
is
dramatic,
dramatic
swings.
You
try
as
best
possible
to
keep
communities
intact.
B
We
have
these
things
called
divisions
and
that's
how
you
have
to
apply
the
various
areas
and
the
division
may
not
be
drawn
in
a
straight
line.
It
may
be
a
little
jagged,
so
this
is
a
challenge
and
not
making
any
excuses
for
us,
but
I
just
want
to
let
people
know.
We
do
hear
what
you
say
and
we
have
tried
our
best
and
we
will
continue
to
try
our
best
to
reflect
on
those
issues
that
you
have
raised
today,
which
is
why
we
appreciate
so
much
hearing
your
testimony.
B
B
Yes,
they
are
okay,
we're
good,
we'll
go
right
into
it
all
right.
We
will
now
go
into
our
public
meeting
to
consider
the
action
to
be
taken
on
the
bill
before
the
committee
today
now
convene
the
public
meeting.
Mr
christmas,
will
you
please
call
the
roll
to
take
attendance
and
members
that
our
attendance
will?
Please
indicate
that
you're
present
when
your
name
is
called
mr
christmas,
caller.
C
E
H
D
B
D
B
Thank
you.
That's
been
moving,
probably
second
at
the
public
hearing
and
public
meeting
on
bill
number
22003
be
recessed
to
wednesday
february.
2Nd
2022
at
10
am
all
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
signify
by
saying
aye,
aye
aye
aye
motion
carries
in
the
public
hearing
and
public
meeting
on
bill.
Number
22003
is
recess
to
wednesday
february,
2nd
2022
at
10
a.m.
This
concludes
the
business
before
the
committee
at
home.
Today.
I
want
to
thank
you
all
very
much
for
your
participation.