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From YouTube: Committee on Appropriations 11-17-2021
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The Committee on Appropriations of the Council of the City of Philadelphia held a Public Hearing on Wednesday, November 17, 2021 to hear testimony on the following items:
210900 An Ordinance authorizing transfers in appropriations for Fiscal Year 2021 from the General Fund from certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, the Grants Revenue Fund from certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, the Water Fund from certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, and the Aviation Fund from certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, to the General Fund to certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, the Water Fund to certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions and the Aviation Fund to certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions.
210901 An Ordinance authorizing transfers in appropriations for Fiscal Year 2022 from the General Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, the Water Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions and the Grants Revenue Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, to the General Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions and the Water Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions.
B
Good
morning,
before
we
begin
the
public
hearing
of
the
committee
on
appropriations,
I
will
make
the
following
announcement.
Due
to
the
continuing
threat
to
public
health
from
covet
19
and
the
delta
variant
city
council
committees
are
currently
meeting
remotely.
We
are
using
microsoft's
teams
to
make
these
remote
hearings
possible
instructions
for
how
the
public
may
view
and
offer
public
testimony
at
public
hearings
of
council
committees
are
included
in
the
public
hearing,
notices
that
are
published
in
the
daily
news,
inquirer
and
legal
intelligencer
prior
to
all
hearings
and
can
also
be
found
on
phillycounsel.com.
B
I
know
that
the
hour
has
come.
Will
the
clerk?
Please
call
the
role
to
to
take
attendance
members
that
are
in
attendance?
Will
you
please
indicate
that
you're
a
present
when
your
name
is
called
also,
please
say
a
few
brief
words
when
responding
so
that
your
image
can
be
displayed
on
screen.
When
you
speak
with
the
clerk,
please
read
the
role.
B
C
Bill
number
210901,
an
ordinance,
an
ordinance
authorizing
transfers
and
appropriations
for
fiscal
year,
2022
from
the
general
fund,
certain
or
all
city
offices,
departments,
boards
and
commissions,
the
water
fund,
certain
or
all
city
offices,
departments,
boards
and
commissions,
and
the
grants
revenue
fund,
certain
or
all
city
offices,
departments,
boards
and
commissions
to
the
general
fund,
certain
or
all
city
offices,
departments,
boards
and
commissions,
and
the
water
fund.
Certain
or
all
city
offices,
departments,
boards
and
commissions.
B
Thank
you
before
we
begin
to
hear
testimony
from
the
witnesses
we
have
here
for
today.
Everyone
who's
been
invited
to
the
public
meeting
to
testify
should
be
made
aware
that
this
is
a
public
hearing
and
it
is
being
recorded
because
the
hearing
is
public.
Participants
and
viewers
have
no
reasonable
expectation
of
privacy.
By
continuing
to
be
on
the
meeting,
you
are
consenting
to
being
recorded
additionally
prior
to
recognizing
members
for
questions
or
comments
they
have
for
witnesses.
B
B
For
purposes
of
this
hearing,
because
we
have
made
all
departments
available,
we
will
start
off
with
rob
devoe
on
behalf
of
marissa
waxman
amy
patel
in
our
finance
team
in
the
technical
office
sent
around
all
the
testimonies
of
all
of
the
departments.
After
rob
dubose
testimony,
we
will
have
larry
krasner.
The
district
attorney
also
testify,
and
then
I
will
open
it
up
to
questions
to
rob
the
bull.
Any
member
who
wishes
to
ask
a
pers
a
question
of
any
particular
department.
B
Those
department
heads
are
available
and
we
will
be
made
available
to
answer
those
questions
for
purposes
of
efficiency.
We
wanted
to
have
rob
do
the
initial
testimony.
All
testimony
and
requests
have
been
shared
with
all
members
of
the
appropriations
committee.
So
with
that,
I
will
turn
it
over
to
rob
the
bow.
F
F
I
will
now
move
on
to
the
mid-year
transfer
ordinance
that
proposed
that
proposed
ordinance
totals
42.5
million,
including
32.4
million
in
the
general
fund,
and
it
provides
transfers
within
the
general
fund
and
the
water
fund
and
from
the
grants
revenue
fund
to
the
general
fund
in
the
water
fund.
It's
needed
to
address
areas
where
funds
are
being
realigned
or
shortages
have
occurred
and
then
again,
as
with
the
other
ordinance,
all
of
those
transfers
are
listed
and
I
won't
go
through
all
of
them,
but
they're
there
should
you
have
any
questions.
B
G
Great,
thank
you
very
much
council
member
and
I
truly
appreciate
your
accommodating
accommodating
our
schedule.
Mr
lee
is
very
important
to
this
institution
and
his
father
was
a
wonderful
guy.
So
I
really
appreciate
that.
So
you
know
I
want
to
begin
by
saying
how
grateful
I
am
for
much
of
what
has
happened
during
the
budget
process.
The
approval
of
a
cola
made
a
huge
difference.
G
I
need
all
of
you
to
understand
that
there
have
been
no
increases
for
people
who
worked
incredibly
hard
during
the
pandemic
for
more
than
two
years,
and
this
was
going
on
while
others
within
the
same
four
walls
were
getting
increases.
The
fop
and
we
have
fop
personnel
have
gotten
their
increases.
Dc47
has
gotten
its
increases.
G
I
say
that
to
say
this,
while
the
cola
certainly
is
helpful,
it
is
not
changing
the
fact
that
we
have
a
tremendous
level
of
dissatisfaction
with
compensation
that
is
happening
in
the
office,
and
it
means
that,
if
we're
not
able
to
correct
it,
we
will
not
be
able
to
continue
to
do
certain
kinds
of
programs
that
relate
to
gun
violence
because
of
attrition.
Our
attrition
normally
is
about
50
a
year
approximately
this
year.
So
far
it's
48.
G
More
specifically,
what
we
need
is
3.1
million
of
that
the
most
important
part
is
1.8
million.
That
would
allow
us
to
adequately
and
fairly
compensate
attorneys
and
staff
here.
These
are
small
raises,
after
two
years
of
waiting
that
are
necessary
and
they're
necessary
before
the
holidays,
unless
we're
going
to
watch
that
revolving
door
keep
spinning
as
a
consequence
of
of
promises
that
have
not
been
kept,
there's
also
500
000,
which
are
essential
for
electronic
discovery.
G
Electronic
discovery
existed
in
this
office
for
more
than
a
decade
and
it
shut
down
when
the
courts
were
hacked
a
couple
of
years
ago.
It
has
caused
tremendous
disturbance
within
the
court
system
because
it
creates
a
situation
where
no
matter
how
hard
we
try
and
how
many
reams
of
paper
we
go
through,
we
often
have
defense
attorneys,
showing
up
saying
they
don't
have
something
which
is
either
true
for
or
not,
but
they
don't
have
something.
It
delays
court
proceedings.
G
It
results
in
no
accountability
on
the
part
of
both
sides
as
to
getting
things
done
and
finally,
there's
another
800
000
that
will
be
needed
for
new
hires
in
september
of
22.
of
that
3.1
million.
What
is
the
the
absolutely
immediate
need?
The
absolutely
immediate
need
is
for
the
1.8
million
for
retention
compensation
and
for
the
500
000
for
evidence.com.
G
If
we
had
to
worry
about
funding
for
hires
for
next
year
in
the
spring,
that
would
present
no
issue.
Let
me
be
as
crystal
clear
as
I
can
and
I'm
going
to
respect
your
time,
council
member,
I'm
so
grateful
for
your
accommodating
my
schedule.
But
let
me
be
as
clear
as
I
can.
We
have
several
several
programs
with
the
ppd
that
they
believe
in
and
we
believe
in
to
deal
with
gun
violence.
G
They
have
said
that
we
have
said
that
I
can't
do
them
anymore
and
I
can't
do
them
anymore,
because
we
have
stretched
and
stretched
and
stretched
for
two
years
and
they
involve
the
work
of
more
than
25
attorneys.
In
order
to
do
that,
stretching
I
have
often
had
to
assign
one
turn
attorney
to
a
courtroom
where
two
are
necessary,
with
a
caseload
that
is
bigger
than
ever
during
this
administration
during
the
pandemic
and
with
the
courts
to
their
credit.
G
Now
talking
about
going
from
four
jury
trials
a
week
to
eight
or
maybe
even
10,
with
more
and
more
courts
being
open,
including
inside
the
jail
which
we
have,
as
I
said,
stretch
to
accommodate,
we
simply
cannot
put
12
attorneys
out
in
the
field,
as
we
did
with
the
agreement
of
the
police
commissioner
to
be
in
the
detective
divisions.
We
can't
do
that.
We
cannot
continue
to
do
our
weekly
program
with
the
ppd,
where
we
have
the
work
of
about
10
attorneys,
going
over.
G
Basically
every
new
gun
violence
case
to
look
for
flaws
and
to
look
for
improvements
and
to
look
for
trainings.
That
is
a
program
that
everybody
says
has
worked,
but
I
can't
do
it.
I
can't
do
it
over
what
is
essentially
1.8
million
dollars,
because
the
employees
I
need
are
running
at
the
front
door.
That's
that's
the
reality.
There
are
additional
programs.
We
have
somebody
in
the
divic
there's
never
been
a
ppd
employee
in
the
divic
doing
great
work.
We
started
our
own
intelligence
unit
here
which
had
not
existed
previously.
G
You
know
I
could
go
on
the
conviction.
Integrity,
work
that
we
do
is
extremely
important
and
the
public
knows
that
and
they
feel
that
and
they
care
about
it,
and
they
should
because
we
shouldn't
be
putting
innocent
people
in
jail
while
guilty
people
go
free.
I
want
to
do
all
those
things,
and
that
is
why
we
have
stretched
as
far
as
we
possibly
could,
but
do
not
be
misled.
G
We
are
in
a
position
where,
at
current
attrition,
without
an
improvement
of
compensation,
we
could
end
up
with
50
fewer
attorneys
than
than
seth
williams
had
right
now.
The
situation
is
not
completely
dire
because
our
new
class
of
46
or
47
just
arrived
about
a
month
and
a
half
ago,
but
we
are
still
experiencing
over
a
period
of
six
months,
double
the
normal
rate
of
attrition
and
something
has
to
be
done.
G
G
It
is
a
thousand
dollars
a
year
of
increase
for
staff
and
two
thousand
dollars
a
year
of
increase
for
lawyers.
That's
all
we're
talking
about
here,
we're
talking
about
two
missed
years
for
staff.
So
that's
two
grand
a
piece
and
two
missed
years
for
lawyers.
That's
four
grand
apiece!
We
have
lawyers
here
who
work
for
less
money
than
beginning
police
officers.
They
work
for
less
money
than
beginning
firefighters.
When
you
include
overtime,
their
benefits
are
not
as
good
as
either
one
of
those
entities.
G
We
are
simply
asking
for
fair
treatment
and
it
does
not
help
that
they
look
around
and
they
see
that
other
employees
in
the
office
dc,
47
and
the
fop
don't
have
a
problem
getting
their
increases
over
these
two
years.
So
I'm
I'm
just
being
as
open
and
honest
as
I
can.
I
truly
appreciate
all
the
support
that
we
have
gotten,
but
this
is
not
something
that
can
wait
because
every
month
that
I'm
not
able
to
give
them
this
frankly
small
amount
of
compensation
to
retain
them.
G
I
can't
do
those,
not
those
gun,
violence,
programs,
anymore
and
every
month
that
goes
on,
the
attrition
will
increase
and
the
situation
will
get
worse
as
case
loads
get
bigger
and
bigger.
So
I
I
am
asking
you
to
find
a
way
to
make
sure
that
the
1.8
million
happens
immediately.
The
500
000
for
evidence.com
should
also
happen
immediately,
we're
trying
to
get
that
up
by
january,
because
it
will
help
the
entire
system
and
reduce
workload
across
the
entire
system.
G
As
for
the
other,
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars,
which
were
in
our
request
for
hiring
in
22,
as
I
said
yeah,
we
can
push
that
back.
So
3.1
can
become
2.3
and
I'm
more
than
happy
to
do
that.
I
will
tell
you
this.
I
have
been
in
communication
with
the
city.
I
have
more
than
one
conversation
with
mr
engler
yesterday
in
the
past,
I
have
spoken
to
the
mayor
about
this
issue
and
tried
to
reach
him
both
yesterday
and
today
without
success,
although
I'm
sure
that's
just
because
he
is
overwhelmed.
G
You
know,
mayor
does
a
lot,
but
those
conversations
have
been
cordial
and
they
have
been
respectful
and
we
are
trying
to
work
together,
we're
just
not
there
this.
You
know
if,
if
we
all
mean
what
we
say,
which
is
that
gun
violence
is
our
top
priority,
then
the
money
should
follow
and
the
people
are
going
to
know
that
and
that's
why
it
is
so
essential
that
we
have
this
little
bit
now
and
I'm
truly
grateful
for
having
the
opportunity
to
testify
before
you.
B
Thank
you,
d.a
larry
krasner,
for
the
record.
I
want
to
know
that
david,
oh,
is
present
for
the
committee
and
also
joining
us
is
catherine
gilmore
richardson
for
the
purposes
of
time-
and
I
know
you
have
a
funeral
to
attend,
does
any
member
of
council
have
any
questions
for
d.a
krasner
about
his
additional
requests.
B
B
We
will
have
a
spring
transfer
ordinance
and
we
hope
that
the
administration
will
then
be
more
prepared
to
fund
this,
and
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
had
an
opportunity
to
put
that
stuff
put
the
concerns,
the
very
legitimate
concerns
on
the
record,
so
with
no
further
comment.
Thank
you,
d.a
krasner
and
once
again,
our
condolences
to
the
team
on
the
loss
of
mr
bernardi.
B
You're
back
so
similar,
similarly
to
the
da's
office.
I
just
want
you
to
put
on
the
record,
because
the
testimony
was
circulated
from
the
sheriff's
office,
which
also
highlighted
some
areas
of
concern.
Could
you
please
put
on
the
record
the
agreement
that
you
have
with
the
sheriff's
office
relevant
to
the
testimony
that
was
submitted
for
the
record.
F
Yes,
we
had
a
couple
of
conversations
with
the
sheriff
yesterday
and
what
we've
agreed
to
do
is
release
from
hold
the
69
positions
that
they
want
to
have
filled.
So
they
can
move
ahead
with
that
process.
And
then,
if
that
winds
up
causing
a
budget
need
for
them,
come
back
in
the
spring
and
ask
for
additional
funding.
B
F
B
F
B
B
Thank
you
very
much
rob
for
for
that
and
for
working
with
us
with
the
independent
elected
officials.
I
don't
know
if
you
had
anything
to
add,
as
it
relates
to
the
conversation
with
the
with
larry
with
d.a
krasner,
but
is
there
a
reason
why
we
are
delaying
the
traditional
raises
that
non-represented
4733
members
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
and
when
is
it
your
expected
date
to
comply
with
with
a
husband
tradition
that
non-represented
and
other
members
automatically
get
raises
when
we
generate
an
agreement
with
the
collective
bargaining
units.
F
Yeah,
we
expect
to
have
another
transfer
ordinance
that
we'll
propose
early
in
calendar
22
that
will
take
care
of
those
transfers
and,
and
part
of
that
will
be
for
the
district
attorney
and
our
calculation
is
that
that
will
be
about
another
800
000
for
the
da.
So
with
this
1.4
in
this
ordinance,
they
get
a
total
of
about
2.2
million.
B
All
right,
the
last
issue
and
then
I'll
open
it
up
if
any
members
of
of
the
committee
have
additional
questions
want
to
speak
to,
and
I
know
that
catherine
gilmore
richardson
has
joined
us
to
the
issue
of
these
the
resource
centers.
So
I
don't
know
if
commissioner
ali
is
on
board
that
could
summarize
that
could
come
forward.
So
we
can
put
some
questions
and
concerns
on
the
record
commissioner,
ali
good
morning.
H
Good
morning
chairwoman
kenyon
sanchez
members
of
the
appropriation
committee,
as
well
as
council
member
catherine
gilmore
richardson.
I
am
kimberly
ali
commissioner
of
the
department
of
human
services
with
me
today
is
nadine
parise,
who
is
the
chief
financial
officer
as
well
as
dr
gary
d
williams,
who's
deputy
commissioner
of
juvenile
justice
services.
We
are
here
to
testify,
on
behalf
of
the
department
of
human
services,
request
for
1
million
thirty,
eight
thousand
seven
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
for
the
new
community
evening
resource
centers.
H
We
are
requesting
this
funding
to
support
the
implementation
of
three
new
community
evening
resource
centers
located
in
the
east
south
and
southwest
divisions
of
the
city.
The
department
of
human
services
worked
in
close
collaboration
with
the
philadelphia
police
department
to
strategically
align
the
centers
within
the
three
police
divisions
outlined
above
the
centers
are
part
of
the
city's
broader
strategy
to
engage
youth
and
families
by
offering
services
to
avoid
further
system
involvement.
H
Additionally,
the
crcs
are
required
to
provide
prioritize
family
and
community
engagement
to
better
understand
the
needs
of
youth
and
their
families,
as
well
as
build
supportive
networks
that
promote
safety
and
well-being
contingent
upon
appropriated,
appropriate
funding.
Dhs
and
our
provider
partners
are
on
track
to
open
the
three
centers
in
december
of
2021..
H
B
You
thank
you,
commissioner.
As
you
know,
we've
been
in
conversations
about
the
process
and
the
selection
of
these
centers.
So
there's
a
couple
of
concerns
that
I
want
to
put
on
the
record
that
I
want
you
to
respond
to
one.
I
understand
that
there
was
a
robust
rfp
process
after
an
initial
rollout
that
that
was
going
to
put
the
centers
in
existing
vendor
situations.
B
B
My
issues
of
concern
that
I've
put
on
the
table
is
that
the
the
organization,
while
it
seems,
and
yesterday
I
had
an
opportunity
to
go
through
their
website
at
after
a
conversation
with
our
my
colleague,
councilman
councilmember,
catherine
gilmore
richardson,
and
some
of
the
areas
of
concern
was
for
me,
have
been
the
selection
of
a
national
organization
as
opposed
to
a
local
organization.
To
do
this,
work,
the
issue
of
cultural
competency
and
language
access
and,
more
importantly,
the
issue
of
a
location.
B
The
the
the
east
division
is
a
huge
division
within
the
police
district
encompassing
over
125
000
latinos,
and
this
is
a
real
issue
with
many
many
different
neighborhoods
kessington
and
others,
and
the
fact
that
the
location
that
was
selected
is
not
neither
central
and
or
not
easy
to
get
to
from
public
transportation.
So
for
the
record,
can
you
please
respond
to
those
concerns.
H
Certainly,
council
member,
it
indicated
that
provider
that
was
selected
for
the
east
division.
The
east
division
consists
of
the
24th
police
district,
the
25th
and
the
26th
police
district.
This
provider
is
in
a
26
police
district.
Despite
the
fact
that
the
provider
is
a
nationally
known
provider.
This
provider
has
had
roots
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
for
over
25
years,
they
actually
have
been
a
provider
for
the
city
of
philadelphia
for
juvenile
justice
services
most
recently,
but
also
child
welfare
services.
H
They
actually
operate
an
existing
evening
reporting
center
for
juvenile
justice
young
people
to
prevent
further
further
penetration
into
the
juvenile
justice
system.
They
have
been
operating
that
evening
reporting
center
for
the
past
seven
years,
so
they
certainly
have
expertise
in
this,
providing
the
site
based
service.
They
are,
although
located
in
the
26
police
district,
they
actually
service
young
people
from
around
the
city,
so
they
are
a
citywide
provider.
So
as
a
citywide
provider,
certainly
they
work
with
all
ethnic
backgrounds
to
include
the
latin
next
population
as
well.
H
The
provider
certainly
is
eager
to
enter
into
any
partnerships
with
more
culturally
competent
providers
and
they
welcome
that
opportunity.
They
currently
have
four
bilingual
staff,
who
are
currently
working
with
the
young
people
on
the
ground.
We
also
partner
with
the
mayor's
office
of
immigrant
and
affairs
to
ensure
that
there
is
appropriate
language
access,
although
they
do
have
bilingual
staff
on
board.
We
certainly
want
to
make
sure
that
all
documents
that
are
printed
are
also
printed
in.
You
know
different
languages.
H
The
provider
has
been
a
credible
provider
for
the
department.
As
indicated,
we
did
have
a
very
robust
rfp
process
that
consisted
of
not
only
just
a
proposal
but
also
consistent
of
a
presentation.
We
recognize
the
fact
that
people
are
able
to
write
proposals
and
write
proposals
extremely
well.
So
my
team
wanted
to
also
have
an
opportunity
to
you
know:
ask
the
provider
questions
certainly
understand
their
framework
and
the
programming
that
they
want
to
offer
to
the
young
people
who
have
curfew
violations,
and
then
we
also
did
a
site
visit.
H
So
we,
my
team,
also
went
to
visit
the
sites
of
all
of
the
potential
crcs,
the
top
finalists,
not
all
of
the
crc's,
and
so
the
provider's
eager.
You
know
to
start
again
we're
able
to.
We
will
continue
to
partner
with
them,
as
well
as
the
other
two
providers
to
make
sure
that
their
rollout
is
successful.
B
So
you
did
a
site
visit
and
it
would
become
obvious
and
for
anyone,
who's
doing
a
resource
center
for
young
people
with
such
a
large
geography
that
location,
location
location
is
important.
We
have
some
people
who
won't
go
to
the
west
side
of
broad
street,
some
people
that
won't
go
to
the
west
side
of
6th
street
some
people
who
won't
go
above
lehigh
avenue.
Can
you
speak
to
me
why
you
do
not
think
that
their
their
location,
which
is
not
centrally
located,
not
accessible
for
public
transportation?
B
H
However,
recognizing
that
we
do
recognize
that
the
city
is
a
city
of
neighborhoods,
and
so
that's
why
the
provider
is
willing
to
partner
with
organizations
in
the
community
in
the
division.
So
if
they
want
to
continue
to
engage
the
young
people,
then
they
can
do
so
by
partnering
with
you
know,
organization
that
is
more
centrally
located.
So,
as
I
stated,
the
organization
is
certainly
willing
to
do
that.
H
Yes,
so
I
actually,
after
our
conversation
council
member,
I
had
a
conversation
with
my
colleagues
in
the
cao
office
about
when
can
proposals
be
released?
The
proposals
are
not
public
at
this
point,
and
so
I
was
informed
that,
after
conformance
of
a
contract,
then
you
can
make
a
request
to
the
office
and
then
we
can
release
the
proposal.
So
it's
after
conformance
as
it
stands.
The
public
information
to
date
is
the
information
that's
listed
on
e-contracts,
and
that
is
the
name
of
the
three
providers
that
were
selected
in
addition
to
the
providers.
B
And
I
want
to
go
for
the
record.
I
want
to
recognize
casper
my
council
colleague,
catherine
gilmore
richardson,
because
she
did
so
much
work
on
this.
I
think,
as
chair
of
appropriations
and
as
an
independently
elected
official,
our
rfp
process
should
remain
again
the
integrity
of
the
rfp
process,
but
once
a
contractor
is
awarded
the
fact
that
we
cannot
see
what
they're
proposing
until
we
are
fully
financially
and
liably
encumbered
to
them
is
problematic
and
an
issue
that
we're
going
to
have
to
debate
legally
around
that
many
times.
B
Not
that
I
know
everybody
that's
in
in
the
area,
but
I
work
extremely
closely
with
my
east
division
and
and
someone's
national
credibility
and
expertise
doesn't
necessarily
translate
well
to
boots
on
the
ground,
and
so
I
am
still
not
satisfied
with
the
answers
that
I
received
today
as
it
relates
to
this.
I
think,
location,
location
location
is
important.
B
E
E
So
I
rise
just
to
say
that
I
am
here
to
work
together
to
figure
out
how
we
can
come
to
a
common
ground
and
resolution
on
this
issue
and
figure.
If
there's
anything
more,
we
can
do
from
looking
at
any
of
the
prevention
dollars
any
potential
underspending
to
figure
out
how
we
can
ensure
that
we
have
a
center
in
the
seventh
district.
E
That
is
in
the
true
area
of
the
east
division
that
we
were
targeting
based
on
the
data
from
the
civic,
and
I
am
ready
and
willing
to
continue
to
do
the
work
we've
been
doing
over
the
past
couple
of
weeks
to
try
to
get
us
to
the
finish
line.
So
thank
you
all
so
very
very
much
and
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
you.
As
you
say,
councilman
sanchez.
E
B
You
so,
commissioner,
I
look
forward
as
my
conversation
with
the
chief
of
staff
to
to
a
site
visit.
I
am
still
not
prepared
to
support
this.
I
will
be
putting
an
amendment
to
withdraw
the
center
until
we
can
make
sure
that
this
is
centrally
located
and
the
issues
that
I
addressed
again.
It's
2021
cultural,
competency
and
language
access
are
hugely
important,
but
for
me
the
issue
of
the
geography
is
even
more
important.
B
Much
of
the
work
is
admirable.
I
don't
know
that
it
translates
to
boots
in
the
ground
and
that
I
won't
be
satisfied
until
I
see
a
sincere
partnership
with
a
culturally
competent
organization
that
people
feel
comfortable
with.
So
I
thank
you
for
the
conversations
I
look
forward
to
to
that
site
visit
and
the
ongoing
conversation
of
this.
B
If
we
are
accessible
to
the
young
people
we're
trying
to
reach,
we
have
schools
like
edison
and
kessington
and
and
and
and
others
in
in
this
area,
and
this
location
again
just
is
not
as
easily
available
on
public
transportation
or
centrally
located
for
the
families
that
we
look
to
represent.
Thank
you
very
much,
commissioner.
E
Could
you
just
speak
to
that
part
of
the
process,
because
I
think
it's
important
to
get
that
on
the
record,
because
I
know
from
the
onset
of
this
we
were
seeking
to
ensure
that
any
organizations
or
individuals
who
would
provide
this
service
had
trusted
credible
messengers
from
local
communities
who
could
really
work
with
the
young
people
and
help
them
with
some
of
the
issues
around
conflict
resolution
if
those
issues
should
arise.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure.
We
also
got
that
on
the
record
as
well.
H
Absolutely
council,
member
gilmore
richardson,
and
so
I
will
talk
to
our
police
partners
who
have
been
at
the
table
with
us
so
that
they
can
provide
council
updated
data
on
the
curfew
violations.
This
will
certainly
be
essential,
as
we
roll
out
particularly
the
community
evening,
resource
center,
so
that
we
know
if
we
are
certainly
I'm
having
an
impact
on
curfew
violations.
So
we
will
be
sure
to
make
sure
that
our
partners
with
the
police
department
send
that
over.
But
in
terms
of
the
partnership.
H
The
evening
reporting
centers,
you
know,
etc,
etc.
So
that
is
definitely
a
requirement
again.
The
providers
are
eager,
they
have
already
started
started
some
of
those
partnerships.
Two
of
the
providers
are
already
existing
providers,
and
so
they
are
very
much
familiar.
You
know
with
the
array
of
services
that
are
offered.
However,
we
want
to
be
more
targeted
in
our
approach
to
make
sure
that
the
young
people
who
are
brought
to
the
center
has
easy
access
to
the
additional
services.
E
So
we
could
get
that
information
from
the
cao's
office.
Is
there
an
opportunity
to
do
that
and
look
at
either
underspending
dollars
that
have
not
been
spent
for
ost
or
the
the
original
ost
dollars?
I
know
I
talk
about
this
all
the
time,
but
the
original
ost
dollars
they
used
to
be
under
dhs.
It
was
about
20
million
dollars.
Where
are
those
dollars,
and
can
we?
You
know,
look
at
how
we
can
get
another
650
000
from
that
underspending.
H
H
So,
given
the
fact
that
our
money
has
already
been
allocated,
we
certainly
don't
have
the
funds
to
support
a
third
center
without
this
general
fund
allocation
and
in
terms
of
the
out
of
school
time
dollars
out
of
school
time,
dollars
are
still
under
the
department
of
human
services
and
out
of
school
time,
dollars
actually
use
a
combination
of
state
funds,
which
is
eighty
percent
of
the
allocation,
and
then
twenty
percent
is
general
funds.
So
the
general
fund
dollars
for
the
out
of
school
time
is
actually
just
a
little
over
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars.
B
Thank
you,
commission.
I
look
forward
to
it
again
the
site
visit
and
the
ongoing
conversation
around
this
issue.
Thank
you.
So
very
much.
Thank
you.
So
I'm
going
to
apologize
and
because
I
know
council,
member
thomas
had
a
question
around
the
da's
off
da's
budget
council
member
thomas
is
that
question
for
our
finance
director
rob
deboe
and
can
I
have
rob
deboe
come
back.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
being
you
and
councilmember
gilbert
richardson
for
your
line
of
questioning
as
well
too.
I
support
your
concerns
and
I
feel
like
we
do
have
to
get
that
right
with
our
center.
Mr
dabo,
in
the
midst
of
listening
to
the
test,
first
of
all,
good
morning
to
you
and
your
team,
thank
you
for
all
you're
doing
and
I'm.
D
To
the
testimony
today,
it
was
just
some
level
of
confusion
on
my
end
and
I
just
want
to
be
clear
about
where
we
are
so.
The
administration
has
already
given
the
district
attorney's
office
funds
in
the
past.
I
want
to
be
clear.
You
you
said
in
your
testimony
that
you
have
1.4
million
of
along
with
another
or
maybe
1.7.
It
was
along
with
another
800
000..
So
are
you
looking
at
around
2.5
million
in
additional
money
for
the
district
attorney's
office,
or
is
the
1.4
that
you
reference
money
that
they've
already
gotten.
D
Okay,
I
just
want
to
put
something
on
the
record,
because
I
think
that
this
is
important
that
we
understand
this.
Madam
chair,
councilmember
sanchez
has
been
working
really
hard
with
members
of
the
appropriations
committee
to
find
out
what
the
district
attorney's
office
needs
to
give
the
staff
members
over
there.
D
The
raises
that
was
discussed
in
the
conversation
as
well
as
maintain
the
programs
on
the
council
side.
I've
talked
to
other
members
of
the
appropriations
committee,
we're
open
to
giving
the
district
attorney
the
2.5
million
dollars
that
they're
asking
for
I'm
wondering
you
know
yes
or
no.
Are
you
saying
that
you
and
the
administration
are
okay
with
the
district
attorney,
getting
a
2.4
2.5
million
dollars
in
additional
money?
That
they're
asking
for?
Are
you?
Is
that
a
yes?
On
your
end.
D
So
you're,
okay,
so
I
want
to
be
clear:
you're,
okay,
with
2.2,
but
council
is
okay
with
more
than
that,
like
we're,
okay
with
giving
them
the
more
than
a
two
point.
Two
we're
we're.
We,
our
number
is
a
little
higher
as
to
what
we
want
to
see,
but
the
number
you've
landed
at
is
2.2.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
on
the
record
for
that,
so
that
there's
no
miscommunication
as
it
relates
to
why
the
district
attorney
didn't
get
the
dollars
that
they
asked
for.
D
Madam
chair,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
and
put
that
information
on
the
record,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
pushing
the
administration
to
assure
that
the
dollars
are
spent
in
the
way
that's
equitable,
to
address
public
safety.
We
all
just
heard
his
testimony.
We
heard
the
concerns
that
he
had.
D
We
heard
the
dollars
that's
needed,
I'm
hoping
that,
throughout
the
course
of
our
conversation
today,
that
somebody
from
your
team
can
touch
grace
with
district
attorney
chrysler,
and
we
can
make
sure
that
we're
doing
all
that
we
need
to
do
to
be
able
to
address
the
public
safety
concerns
that
the
constituents
of
philadelphia
communicate
to
us
every
single
day
on
a
consistent
basis.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
appreciate
it.
B
Thank
you
and
again,
council
member,
you
know
this
is
the
beginning
of
the
fiscal
year
and
everybody
in
their
budgets
can
continue
to
operate.
This
is
not
an
issue
that
we
need
to
resolve
today.
I
think
the
issue
of
the
overall
raises
is
an
issue
for
the
3
000
unrepresented
folks
and
the
other
different
departments
to
get
the
raises,
which
is
why
I
asked
the
question
of
rob.
B
You
know
we
don't
want
to
get
into
a
situation
where
we're
putting
an
amendment
and
allocating
money
if
the
administration
is
not
going
to
spend
it,
and
so
we're
going
to
strongly
use
our
advocacy
voice
to
encourage
the
administration
to
work
with
our
d.a
to
get
to
a
better
resolution
so
that
in
the
spring
we
can
have
a
different
conversation.
The
reason
I
allowed
the
d.a
to
come
and
forth
and
put
that
forward
because
he
also
has
to
be
held
accountable
to
what
the
request
is.
B
You
know
and
the
details
of
it
so
that
we
are
aware
how
this
ties
into
our
con
to
our
crime
prevention
and
all
of
the
work
that's
being
done
in
coordination
with
the
police,
department
and
others.
So
I
agree
with
you:
I'm
hopeful
that
the
administration
and
the
da's
office
will
work
through
this
and
that
in
the
spring,
we're
at
a
better
place.
D
Madam
chair
just
one
point
of
information,
and
I
think
that
we
have
to
emphasize
that
you
just
said
it
in
the
midst
of
your
remarks.
We
can
allocate
the
money
to
where
we
feel
like
it
needs
to
go,
but
if
the
administration
is
not
going
to
spend
it,
then
our
allocation
in
our
vote
is
simply
semantic.
D
So
I
just
want
to
clear
all
this
stuff
up
for
the
record,
because
we've
had
a
lot
of
negotiations
to
try
to
put
us
in
a
position
where
we're
trying
to
do
what's
best
for
everybody,
and
I
just
want
everybody
to
understand
what
our
role
is,
what
the
administration's
role
is
and
what
we,
as
an
appropriations
committee,
are
in
support
of.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
appreciate
you.
B
H
A
A
The
69
positions
will
not
bring
us
all
the
way
up
to
what
we
are
budgeted
as
far
as
428.
It
brings
us
up
to
368,
and
so
we
are
still
deficient
in
that
area
in
reference
to
our
employees
here
in
the
sheriff's
office
that
cover
the
courts
just
wanted
to
put
that
on
the
record.
That
does
not
bring
us
up
to
428.
B
B
I
know
you're
in
the
middle
of
a
campaign,
and
we
will
be
back
here
in
the
spring
and
I
wanted
to
make
sure
this
stuff
was
on
the
record
so
that
in
the
spring,
as
with
d.a
krasner,
that
you're
working
with
the
administration
and
we
get
to
a
place
of
mutual
agreement
around
this,
so
thank
you
so
very
much.
Thank
you
for
your
patience
and
your
willingness
to
work
with
the
budget
office
on
this.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
A
B
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
want
to
thank
the
sheriff's
office
as
well
too,
and
thank
you
for
your
line
of
questioning
and
thank
them
for
all
their
support,
that
they
provided
to
city
council,
to
the
administration
and
to
other
sectors
just
to
be
able
to
do
their
part
in
addressing
public
safety
and
just
assure
my
vote
of
confidence
and
supporting
them
and
the
initiatives
that
they're
requesting
to
make
sure
that
their
office
functions.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
B
B
B
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
B
B
We
concluded
the
public
hearing
of
the
committee
and
we
will
now
go
into
our
public
meeting
to
consider
the
actions
to
be
taken
on
the
bills
before
the
committee.
Today
we
will
convene
the
public
meeting.
Will
the
clerk?
Please
call
the
role
to
take
attendance
once
again
and
ask
members
in
attendance
to
please
indicate
that
you
are
present
when
your
name
is
called
also,
please
say
a
brief
few
words
so
that
when
responding
so
that
your
image
could
be
displayed
on
the
screen
when
you
speak
mr
clark,
please
call
the
role.
B
Thank
you.
We
will
now
go
into
the
public
meeting,
for
the
record
is
vice
chairman
council
member
kenyatta,
johnson
ready
with
the
amount
absolutely
thank
you
so
we'll
start
with
bill
210.
The
chair
recognizes
council
member
vice
chair
kenyatta,
johnson,
for
a
motion
on
bill.
Two
one:
zero,
nine,
zero
zero,
which
is
moving
forward
without
an
amendment.
B
B
Second,
thank
you
for
the
record.
The
chair
notes
that
council
member
o
has
seconded
the
motion.
It
has
been
moving
properly.
Second,
the
bill
number
two
one:
zero,
nine
zero
zero
will
be
reported
from
this
committee
with
a
fabled
recommendation.
All
those
in
favor
say
aye,
any
oppositions
see
none.
It
has
this
bill.
It
has
been
now
properly
moved
in
second
and
voted
on
bill
number.
B
Two,
one:
zero,
nine,
zero
zero
will
be
reported
from
this
committee
with
a
favorable
recommendation
and
further
move
that
the
rules
accounts
will
be
suspended
to
permit
first
reading
at
our
next
session.
Thank
you.
The
chair
recognizes
vice
chairman
johnson
for
an
amendment
on
bill.
Two
one:
zero,
nine
zero
one.