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From YouTube: Committee on Appropriations 4-21-2022
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The Committee on Appropriations of the Council of the City of Philadelphia held a Public Hearing on Thursday, April 21, 2022, at 1:00 PM to hear testimony on the following item:
220291 An Ordinance authorizing transfers in appropriations for Fiscal Year 2022 from the General Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, the Grants Revenue Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, and the Aviation Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, to the General Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, and the Aviation Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions.
B
B
Due
to
the
the
continuing
threat
of
public
health
from
kobe,
19
and
and
the
variants
city
council
committees
are
currently
meeting
remotely,
we
are
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and
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the
hearings
and
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also
be
found
on
fella
counsel,
dot
com.
I
know
that
the
hour
has
come
clerk.
B
B
C
Bill
bill
number
220291,
authorizing
transfers
and
appropriations
for
fiscal
year,
2022
from
the
general
fund,
certain
or
all
city
offices,
departments,
boards
and
commissions,
the
grants,
revenue
fund,
certain
or
all
city
offices,
departments,
boards
and
commissions,
and
the
aviation
fund,
certain
or
all
city
offices,
departments,
boards
and
commissions
to
the
general
fund,
certain
or
all
city
offices,
departments,
boards
and
commissions,
and
the
aviation
fund.
Certain
or
all
city
offices,
departments,
boards
and
commissions.
B
Before
we
begin
to
hear
testimony
from
our
witnesses
we
have
here,
for
today,
everyone
who's
been
invited
to
the
meeting
to
testify
should
be
aware
that
the
public
hearing
is
being
recorded
because
the
hearing
is
public.
Participants
and
viewers
have
no
reason
a
reasonable
expectation
of
privacy.
By
continuing
to
be
on
the
meeting,
you
are
consenting
to
being
recorded
additionally
prior
to
recognizing
members
or
questions
or
comments
they
will
have
for
our
witnesses.
B
B
Reflect
that
council
member
brian
o'neill
is
present.
Thank
you
very
much.
All
right.
We
have
one
person
in
for
our
first
panel
this
afternoon
on
bill
two
two
zero
one,
one
four
which
is
marissa
waxman
our
guard
director
before
she
gets
started.
There
are
every
department
related
to
this
transfer
ordinance
is
available.
B
The
letter
from
the
budget
office
was
submitted
to
all
members
of
this
committee
subsequently
to
work
with
our
finance
director,
robert
mcdermott.
There
was
a
proposed
amendment
that
was
also
circulated,
and
then
we
recently
just
circulated
an
updated
testimony
for
our
budget
director.
So
we
will
let
marissa
waxman
present
and,
as
I
said,
all
departments
are
available
to
answer
any
questions
or
concerns
from
a
committee.
Member
welcome.
G
G
Many
of
the
changes
reflect
funding
shifts
between
classes
within
a
department
rather
than
an
increase
in
the
overall
level
of
departmental
funding.
This
includes
the
requests
for
police
fire.
The
managing
director's
office,
health
and
finance
police
seeks
to
move
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
class
100
to
class
200
to
fund
forensic
science
work
to
address
a
backlog
in
dna
analysis.
G
Mdo
would
move
six
million
dollars
that
will
not
be
spent
in
class
100
by
the
end
of
the
year
to
support
one-time
purchases
by
mdo
and
shift
another
3
million
to
oit
to
support
the
per
purchase
of
public
safety
radios.
The
full
amount
of
class
100
remains
in
the
budget
for
fy
23
to
enable
filling
of
the
positions.
G
The
one-time,
mdo
purchases
include
vehicles
to
support
the
school
crossing
guard
program,
medical
examiner
equipment
aid,
equipment
for
the
police,
department's
major
crash
response,
covid
ppe
for
the
prisons,
environmental
improvements
for
the
anti-violence
programs
in
pinpoint
areas,
language
access,
materials,
tactical
entry
equipment
and
contraband
mail
and
body
scanners
to
the
prisons,
parks
and
rec
looks
to
redeploy
550
245
dollars
of
class
100
for
summer
program.
Rentals
storm
ida,
cost
emergency
cleanup
in
kensington
phase,
one
assessment
of
recreation,
centers
to
modernize
advisory
council
collections
and
aed
replacement.
G
G
There
are
several
areas
where
net
new
funding
is
needed,
either
in
whole
or
in
part.
This
shift
from
the
grants
fund
to
the
general
fund
of
16.3
million
will
support
seven
of
the
10
million
for
public
safety
radios
funded
in
oit.
These
radios
are
at
the
end
of
life
and
they
were
scheduled
to
for
replacement
in
the
pre-pandemic
version
of
the
fy
21
budget.
We
really
kicked
the
can
on
that,
and
we
had
delayed
the
replacement
due
to
the
revenue
losses
at
the
time.
G
G
As
an
aside,
we
know
that
the
city
commissioners
have
requested
an
additional
3.9
million
in
this
fiscal
year
for
operations,
and
we
are
able
to
accommodate
that
without
a
transfer
ordinance
at
this
time.
The
balance
of
the
funds
for
dpp
is
for
coven-related
cleaning,
there's
2.8
million
for
the
department
of
fleet
services
for
fuel
and
parts.
G
457
312
dollars
requested
to
continue
a
coveted
recovery
and
isolation
site
under
the
office
of
homeless
services
budget
and,
additionally,
there
are
requests
for
250,
000
or
less
for
labor
the
mayor's
office
and
the
sheriff
within
the
aviation
fund.
Transfers
are
requested
for
400
000
for
insurance
costs
and
shipping
2
million
dollars
from
operating
to
capital,
to
reduce
outstanding
commercial
paper
for
administrative
costs.
I'm
joined
by
representatives
of
the
departments
impacted
by
this
legislation
and
we
are
available
to
answer
your
questions.
Thank
you.
B
G
B
Okay,
so
we
obviously
will
submit
them
for
the
record.
There
is
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
the
general
fund
and
493
000
from
the
grant's
revenue
for
to
for
a
total
of
593
to
class
200
in
the
city
council
budget.
There
is
a
proposal.
There
is
a
250
dollar
contribution
to
the
edunda
festival,
200
from
the
grants,
revenue
to
class
500
and
then
there's
an
additional
836
thousand
dollars
for
personal
protection
equipment.
Bulletproof
vest
right
gear
for
the
grants,
revenues
to
equipment
for
existing
personnel.
B
So
I
just
want
to
put
that
on
the
record.
So
as
we're
talking
about
this,
we
know
what
we're
we're
talking
about
for
the
record
real
quickly.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
then
I'll
open
it
up
to
my
colleagues,
let
me
get
this
chat
room
going
in
case.
I
missed
something:
there's
a
lot
of
questions
queued
up,
but
let
me
start
during
the
budget
process
and
in
particularly
this
week,
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
around
planning
and
infrastructure
and
I'll
give
you
an
example.
B
This
week
we
had
the
fleet
manager
speak
a
little
bit
about
ev
cars
and
infrastructure,
and
he
said
that
there
was
going
to
be
an
establishment
of
a
committee.
Has
the
administration
developed
a
plan
that
is
broader
than
our
fleet
to
discuss
ev
infrastructure
in
the
city
and
it's
if
so,
who's
working
on
that.
G
So
I
believe,
as
the
head
of
the
department
of
fleet
services
testifies,
a
group
is
being
pulled
together
and
I
can
get
back
to
the
chair
with
more
information
about
who
is
involved
and
I
believe
that
it
goes
beyond
just
you
know
what
we
drive
around,
but
also
what
the
future
of
electric
vehicles
will
be.
You
know
I'm
sure
they're
also
thinking
about
self-driving
vehicles.
B
Yes,
so
this
is
very
important.
As
you
know,
there
are
timely,
competitive
federal
grants
that
will
be
available
for
infrastructure
we've
all
seen
secretary,
budapest
travel
all
over
the
country,
so
it
would
be
really
important,
particularly
before
the
end
of
our
budget
process,
that
we
can
at
least
say
we're
planning,
there's
a
plan,
there's
something
funded
on
to
discuss
eb
infrastructure,
particularly
as
it
relates
to
our
public
pro
public
properties,
but
particularly
on
the
equity
issue.
B
Right
we've
seen
in
other
cities,
as
we've
looked,
the
default
has
been
for
evie
infrastructure
to
be
put
on
parking,
lots
and
others.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
there
is
a
discussion
about
ev
infrastructure
in
all
neighborhoods
right.
So
that's
important
and
the
other
discussion
that
came
up
and
it's
part
of
this
transfer
ordinance.
B
I'm
gonna
ask
you
the
issues
of
radios
that
is
in
here
and
I'm
sure
some
of
my
colleagues
will
have
questions
and
also
cameras,
and
in
fact
yesterday
there
was
a
lengthy
discussion
with
our
oit
about
the
different
departments
with
different
camera
services
and
the
ability
for
them
to
talk
to
each
other.
Can
you
speak
to
me?
Is
there
any
planning
around
incorporating
one
camera
program
as
inclusive
I'll
use
for
an
example
cctv
in
london?
B
You
know
london,
spend
millions
of
dollars,
building
an
infrastructure
that
speaks
to
each
other
and
incorporates
their
public
transit
neighborhoods.
Like
all
of
these
things,
what
is
the
discussion
given
that
there's
been
so
such
a
level
of
frustration
with
police
cameras
versus
the
dumping
cameras
versus
the
commercial
carter
cameras?
Now,
we're
then
subsidizing
cameras
in
commercial
carters?
Is
there
any
discussion
about
using
infrastructure
opportunities
to
create
one
system
that
talks
to
each
other.
G
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
question
and
yeah
following
yesterday's
conversation
touch
base
with
oit
yesterday
afternoon
was
talking
with
streets
and
and
what
we
clearly
realized
is.
We
need
to
be
having
some
more
conversations
around
that
and
opportunities
layered
onto
that
is
obviously
any
iija
or
bipartisan
infrastructure
legislation
funding
we're
currently
in
the
process
of
assessing
what
are
all
of
the
opportunities
there,
which
ones
you
know.
Are
we
going
to
go
after
make
the
most
sense
for
us?
G
That's
in
part
why
the
fy23
budget
does
have
the
proposed
funding
for
the
staff
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
we
have.
The
capacity
to
you
know
come
up
with
a
real
strategy
as
opposed
to
a
hodgepodge
of
ideas.
So
that's
in
process
now
we're
talking
about
how
do
we
get
that
stood
up
and
we're
talking
about
specific
opportunities,
and
we
can
sort
of-
and
I
know
that
there
that
bob
mcdermott
is
involved
in
some
of
those
conversations,
so
we
make
sure
to
include
counsel
in.
Can
you
speak.
B
A
little
bit
to
who
is
on
that
committee,
I
think
it's
hugely
important.
There's
a
lot.
You
know
it's
a
common
theme
in
every
single
departmental
discussion.
What
is
the
committee
structure
to
review
competitive
opportunities
with
with
federal
money?
What's
that
infrastructure
and
as
you
mentioned,
bob
mcdermott
is
sitting
in
on
that
on
behalf
of
city
council,
but
who
else
is
what
other
departments
are
part
of
that.
G
I
can
absolutely,
I
believe
we
actually
have
an
org
chart
that
I
can
forward
to
the
chair,
because
it
is
a
fairly
large
group
and
it
also
includes
other
folks
outside
of
the
administration,
but
you
know
definitely
owed
us
and
streets,
but
airport
and
other
outside
entities.
We
have
our
capital
budget
folks
from
the
budget
office.
There
are
a
number
of
offices
on
there.
I'm
not
gonna.
Remember
everybody
right
now,
but
we
can
send
over
an
org
chart
to
the
chair.
B
G
Let
me
I'll
need
to
get
back
to
you,
because
it
goes
above
me
and
I
actually
I'm
not
recalling
where
that
is.
But
you
know
we
built
it
off
of
a
structure
that
we
had
put
in
place
for
the
coveted
response
and
recovery,
because
we
that
was
a
way
that
we
were
able
to
do
real
collaborative
interdepartmental
and
inside
outside
government.
And
so
we
built
it
on
that
structure
because
it
was
working
well
and
we
knew
how
we
could
sort
of
tweak
that
and
keep
it
going.
B
Okay,
will
there
be
a
director
for
that
committee
that
will
could
be,
can
come
before
council
to
speak
to
what
the
opportunities
are
is?
Are
you
looking
at
that
kind
of
formality,
or
is
this
just
staff
having
another
task
to
do
I
mean
how
serious
and
how
up
how?
How
much
are
we
upgrading
the
need
to
have
someone
in
charge
and
accountable.
G
Yeah,
so
I
will
pull
together
the
information
about
how
how
it
is
structured
right
now
and
also
what
was
proposed
with
the
new
operating
budget
funding,
but
with
we.
We
include
a
20
million
dollar
proposal
for
staffing.
This
up,
which
I
think
demonstrates
a
real
level
of
seriousness
around
this
okay.
B
How,
okay,
how
would
this
committee
have
access
and
that
and
therefore,
council
have
access
to
see
how
this
can
change
our
capital
budget
as
proposed
right
now
right
because
you're
going
to
stand
up
this
committee?
How
are
we
going
to
make
decisions
about
what
what
is
really
shovel
ready
versus
what
is
18
months
behind
speak
to
me
about
that
conversation.
G
Yeah
so
part
of
the
reason
why
the
fy
23
to
27
capital
program,
28
capital
program,
includes
funding
for
matching
funds,
but
doesn't
have
that
allocated
out
to
departments
yet
sort
of
sits
in
finance
where
we
have
flexibility
is
because
we
knew,
we
didn't
know
everything
right
now,
and
so
what
we
are
expecting
to
do
as
we
stand,
this
up
is
understand
all
sorts
of
things.
What
projects
are
we
going
after?
When
will
we
need
the
money
in
the
timeline?
G
What
is
the
match
percentage
and
is
that
going
to
factor
into
you
know
a
program
with
a
5
match
versus
a
25
match
how's
that
going
to
factor
into
our
decision,
so
we
built
in
some
flexibility
and
we
can
as
we're
sort
of
building
out
what
this
process
and
structure
looks
like
we
can.
Obviously,
council
will
be
involved.
B
Thank
you
for
that
during
the
budget
discussions
also
this
week,
so
I
want
to
kind
of
put
it
on
the
record,
because
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussions
around
this
over
the
last
few
years.
You
know:
we've
we've
the
council
president's
office,
you
know
bob
mcdermott,
myself
and
council
president
clark.
We
really
have
been
trying
to
navigate
the
independent
budget,
the
request
from
the
independent
elected
offices-
and
I
just
want
to
put
this
on
the
record
because
I
think
it's
hugely
important.
This
is
not
necessarily
for
you
as
much.
B
It
is
for
the
mayor
and
the
mayor's
team,
independent
elected
officials,
get
elected
by
the
electorate
with
a
mandate
to
do
their
jobs
right
and
your
and
your
and
our
role
is
to
be
fiscally
responsible
and
prudent
with
the
work
that
they
do
and
I
think
it's
hugely
important.
As
you
heard
from
the
testimony
from
chairwoman,
dealey
we've
had
this
discussion
around
the
sheriff's
office.
B
We've
had
it
with
all
of
the
independent
offices.
Obviously
I've
done
some
advocacy
for
the
for
the
da's
office.
I
really
want
you
know
over
the
next
couple
of
months,
as
we
close
out
this
budget
to
better
align
what
the
expectations
are
by
the
mayor
and
the
policymakers
as
it
relates
to
these
independent
goals
and
some
cases,
charter
mandated
mandates
around
the
structure
and
what
these
independent
offices
do
so
that
we
can
get
to
a
better
place
and
how
we
manage
it.
B
You
know
again,
you
know
chairman
daley
speaks
for
herself,
as
will
the
sheriff
belial
and
others,
but
I
think
we
need
to
have
the
mayor
and
more
involved
and
how
some
of
these
discussions
play
into
again,
how
they
independently
got
elected
and
their
mandates,
and
I
think
it's
important.
I
know
your
role
as
a
budget
office
officer
is
to
ask
the
questions
that
you
have
to
ask
around
the
management
of
the
money.
B
B
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
in
the
record,
because
you
know
I
heard
the
questions
my
council
colleagues
asked
of
chair
lady
deeley
and
others,
and
I
just
want
you
folks,
to
know
that
we
have
been
working
with
the
budget
office
around
these
other
as
much
as
we
possibly
can.
But
this
is
a
policy,
and
sometimes
a
political
will
conversation
that
I
we
need
to
bump
up
to
the
mayor
and
to
the
chief
of
staff.
B
So
I'm
just
putting
that
on
the
record,
because
we're
going
to
have
other
people
testify
in
the
upcoming
week
who
are
not
satisfied
with
their
budget
allocation
as
proposed
by
the
administration,
and
I
just
want
to
get
ahead
of
that
and
you
know
kind
of
put
in
context
the
conversation
that
you
had
and
we're
having
with
the
city
commissioner's
office.
I
just
want
to
put
that
on
the
record.
For
all
my
colleagues
I
want
to
see
is
anybody
here
from
the
recreation
department,
because
I
want
to
get
some
responses
to
this
kessington
allocation.
B
B
H
So
we
have
been
talking
to
some
of
the
community
leaders
in
kensington
for
quite
some
time
and
understand
the
significant
quality
of
life
issues
that
you
know
have
existed
there,
specifically
around
our
parks
and
public
spaces,
and
have
wanted
to
really
do
more
and
do
better
in
terms
of
helping
to
address,
especially
the
you
know,
the
the
the
cleanliness
issues
and
the
maintenance
issues
in
the
park.
We
have
great
operations
staff
who
led
by
a
wonderful
district
supervisor.
H
Our
great
partners
at
clip
also
support
the
maintenance
efforts
in
the
parks
in
kensington,
but
it's
just
not
proven
to
be
enough
to
keep
up
with
the
amount
of
you
know
just
trash
and
litter,
and
you
know
other
things
that
need
to
be
cleaned
up
in
those
parks,
and
so
we
have
contracted
with
a
non-profit
code,
ceo
that
we've
worked
with
in
the
past.
Who
is,
as
you
probably
know,
it's
a
non-profit
that
works
with
individuals.
H
Coming
out
of
you
know,
placement
and
and
who
are
re-entering
their
communities
and
employs
them
to
to
do
work
like
this
in
parks.
So
ceo
is
now
working
five
days
a
week
with
us
in
kensington
they're
going
around,
I
believe,
to
to
four
parks
and
and
working.
You
know,
alongside
our
operations,
crews,
but
also
independently,
we've
seen
a
tremendous
difference.
H
In
fact,
we
had
a
call
with
some
of
the
kensington
leaders
yesterday
and
they
noted
that
they've
seen
a
significant
impact
from
from
those
efforts,
so
we're
we're
happy
that
we've
been
able
to
re.
You
know
work
that
we've
been
rebounding
some
of
those
funds
to
go
to
support
that
work,
so
they're
out
there
five
days
a
week.
I
think
six
hours
a
day
and
that's
in
addition
to
the
to
our
crews
and
the
clip
crews,
who
are
already
providing
high
levels
of
maintenance.
B
Okay,
thank
you,
commissioner.
So
much
yes,
I
mean
I,
it
goes
on
unsaid
or
it's
not
said
enough.
The
amount
of
work
that
clip
and
you
know,
and
the
streets
department
have
done
in
the
kessington
area,
just
want
to
tell
you
what
I've
said
to
jessica
shapiro
the
other
day.
You
know
we
are
working
really
hard
at
opening
school
buildings,
and
I
know
that
there's
this
plan
about
programming
mcpherson
park
just
want
to
go
on
the
record.
B
You
know
sending
children
where
you
almost
have
need
one
adult
for
one
child
to
prove
a
point
that
we're
activating
the
space,
given
the
fact
that
we
don't
have
control
of
the
space.
I
don't
think
it's
a
good
utilization
of
funds
and
I
really
want
the
the
administration
to
rethink
that
there's
several
schools
in
the
area
that
are
open.
We
have
several
parks
in
the
area
that
open.
I
don't
need
anybody
to
prove
a
point
that
you
know
we're
going
to
send
kids
into
mcpherson
when
we
don't
have
control
of
it.
B
B
We
need
to
have
a
conversation
about
it,
but
I
think
everybody
agrees
with
me
that
that
we
don't
have
control
of
mcpherson
square
at
this
point
and
it
is
very
dangerous
and
will
require
a
lot
of
police
resources
and
a
lot
of
staffing
to
program
20
25
slots
that
we
can
activate
in
one
of
the
nearby
sites
and
have
safer
and
better
programming,
so
just
want
to
put
it
on
the
record.
I
did
last
year
too,
nobody
listened
to
me,
but
okay,
thank
you
for
that
councilwoman.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
B
Thank
you
for
all
your
work
appreciate.
I
know
that
the
harrogate
civic
is
doing
a
lot
of
work
at
harrah
day
park
and
there's
a
lot
of
energy
around
our
renovations
at
scallon
with
with
the
flyers
foundation.
So
there
is
a
lot
of
great
stuff
going
on
that.
Mcpherson
is
not
one
of
them,
so
I
thank
you
very
much
for
all
your
efforts
in
that
okay
and
then,
finally,
and
I'll
move
it
over
to
my
council
to
my
council.
B
I
Our
goal
is
to
have
a
play:
a
set
of
playbooks
and
flag
system
for
how
to
respond
to
future
infectious
outbreaks
as
it
relates
to
congregate
sites
and
to
have
that
work
completed
by
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year.
Thank
you
very
much
one
one
other
thing:
councilmember,
the
the
health
preparedness
process
we
believe
will
be
paid
for
through
fema.
B
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
response.
I
know
there's
a
broader
conversation
about
moving
away
from
congregate
care,
and
so
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
this
appears
that
you're
you're
responding
to
a
lot
of
the
advocacy
that
we're
hearing
on
council.
So
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
there's
that
alternative
site
for
the
summer
in
response
to
that,
so
thank
you
very
much
liz.
B
One
last
thing
is
anybody
here
from
the
managing
director's
office,
we
received
quite
a
bit
of
call
calls
around
the
school
crossing
guards
moving
over
to
the
mdos,
and
I
just
want
someone
to
put
something
on
the
record
around.
What
does
the
issue
of
union
representation
like
making
sure?
Can
we
reassure
folks
that
this
does
not
impact
any
of
their
work
and
their
role,
because
there's
a
concern
out
there
and
if
I
got
calls,
I
know
my
council
colleagues
got
calls
so
mary
is
that
you.
J
That's
me,
council
member,
thank
you
for
raising
this
question
mary
horseman
policy
director
for
the
managing
director's
office.
So
we
are,
as
we
begin
this
process
in
2021
we
are
transitioning
the
crossing
guard
unit
to
the
streets
department,
so
we've
been
working
closely
with
dc
33
to
make
sure
that
this
is
a
really
smooth
transition
for
all
of
the
crossing
guard
staff.
We
know
that
they've
been
doing
really
incredible
work
throughout
this
pandemic
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they
continue
to
be
supported.
B
I
love
these
crossing
guards
and
cousins
and
I
don't
know
how
they
do
it.
They
have
a
respect
from
everybody
over
there,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
our
crossing
guards
majority
women
are
taken
care
of.
So
thank
you
very
much
mary
for
putting
that
on
the
record
and
then
with
that
I'm
going
to
allow
some
of
my
colleagues,
the
chair,
recognizes
council
member,
dom.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
just
want
to
join
madam
chair
in
her
request.
I
hope
you
can
listen
to
her
about.
What's
going
on
in
kensington,
specifically
mcpherson,
I
was
there
friday,
night
and
tuesday
night,
and
I
wouldn't
let
any
child
near
that
library
or
that
square.
It's
a
disaster
and
what
she's
saying
is
absolutely
accurate.
D
It's
really
not
good
at
all.
My
questions
are
three
or
four
questions
in
the
public
health.
I
noticed
you're
shifting
around
a
few
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
fund
gun
violence
research.
So
I
have
three
questions
around.
That
is
the.
Is
this
the
first
funding
being
made
available
for
gun
violence?
Research
in
public
health
is
one
question.
D
F
Last
good
afternoon,
council,
I'm
ryan
taylor,
I'm
representing
health
today,
so
I
can
take
the
first
question
I
may
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
the
second
question
and
third
question,
so
this
funding
is
moving
from
class
100
to
class
200.
That's
an
allocation
that
recognizes
the
temporary
nature
of
the
specific
funding
is
more
appropriate
in
class
200.
F
F
That
group
is
focused
on
preventing
reducing
preventable
deaths
and
injuries,
primarily
in
the
air
firearm
violence.
The
team
is
committed
to
the
public
health
approach
of
firearm
violence.
It
really
focuses
on
on
four
different
areas
or
four
really
priorities
this
year
and
next
year.
One
is
the
injury,
prevention,
dashboard
and
sending
that
up
and
making
sure
that's
robust.
Second,
is
the
coalition
for
hospital-based
violence
prevention
programs.
F
The
third
is
the
injured
attention.
Team
is
continuing
to
grow
the
firearm,
homicide,
review
team
and
then
finally,
the
focus
is
on
the
cure
for
violence
and
coalition,
which
is
identifying
a
number
of
different
factors,
but
it
includes
identifying
a
city-wide
reach
for
this
model,
naming
comment:
various
implementation
and
facilitating
better
coordination
between
organizations,
so
that
is
response
to
the
question.
Regarding
the
funding
to
your
second
and
third
question,
I
respectfully
ask
that
I
can
follow
up
after
this
hearing.
F
F
D
D
D
Should
we
expect
more
appropriations
out
of
class
100
before
the
books
are
closed
this
fiscal
year
and
how
are
departments
deciding
how
to
invest
these
payroll
budgets?
They
don't
anticipate
spending
and
our
departments
deciding
independently
or
is
the
administration
coordinating
efforts
across
departments.
G
Thank
you
so
much
and
that's
a
great
question
so
you're
right.
This
is
in
part,
because
we
have
areas
where
we're
either
had
new
positions
that
we
haven't
been
able
to
fill
or
folks
leaving,
and
we
are
having
these
conversations
sort
of
the
budget
office
cabinet
members
with
the
individual
departments
about
half
of
this
transfer
ordinance
reflects
movements
of
funds
within
departments
to
do
just
that,
and
so,
when
we're
saying
okay,
we
have
stuff,
we
want
to
get
done,
we
would
put
it
in
manpower
or
person.
Power
can't
do
that.
G
G
What
else
can
we
do
to
move
the
ball
forward
and
that's
where
we
look
particularly
at
one
time
expenditures,
though,
because
we
do
intend
to
or
you
know
it's
our
expectation
that
in
the
future
we
will
fill
those
positions,
so
we
don't
want
to
we're
not
totally
switching
to
doing
something
else,
but
it's
like
okay,
but
in
the
short
term
we
have
money
that
we're
not
going
to
spend.
We
know
we
have
other
needs.
G
Can
we
do
something
there,
and
so
that's
why
a
lot
of
what
you're
hearing
is
like
say
the
public
safety
radios.
We
know
we
need
those.
We
know.
You
know
that
that's
the
chunk.
We
have
more
money
in
the
out
years
of
the
five-year
plan,
because
it's
more
than
what
we're
doing
here,
but
this
is
a
thing
we
can
buy
right
now
same
with
the
vehicles
for
the
school
crossing
guards,
and
so
these
are
conversations
that
happen
within
departments.
You
know
that
are
doing
it
totally
within.
G
You
know,
from
class
100
to
300
400,
and
so
those
are
the
conversations
that
we
have
and
the
department
usually
recommends
it.
In
a
couple
of
cases,
though,
where
we
identify
okay
department,
a
you
have
an
underspend
department
b
has
a
critical
need,
but
not
an
underspin.
That's
where
the
budget
office
particularly
says
all
right.
Can
we
move
a
little
money
from
here
to
there
and
so
we're
trying
to
do
both?
D
Is
there
someone
marissa
in
government
who's
looking
at?
What's
happened
the
last
two
three
years
and
say
because
of
the
pandemic
and
because
of
what
occurred
there
are
areas
now
of
the
city
government
that
we
can
operate
more
efficiently,
that
we
didn't
think
we
could
do
before,
but
we
can-
and
you
know
like
we
were
forced
to
so
we
realized
how
to
do
it.
Is
there
someone
in
government
looking
at
that
across
the
board.
G
So
there
are
a
number
of
things,
obviously
the
budget
office
as
we
go
through
this
process.
We
try
and
take.
What
did
we
do
differently
or
well,
where
their
efficiency
is?
What
can
we
change,
and
so,
when
departments
are
developing
their
budgets,
that's
part
when
they
ask
for
new
money,
we
say:
okay.
Well,
where
would
you
pull
it
from?
G
How
would
you
you
know
get
this
done
if
we
can't
add,
on
top
also
as
stephanie
tifton
testified
about
yesterday
at
the
cio's
budget
hearing,
because
we
recognized
that
you
know
there
were
some
things
that
we
could
do
on
the
fly
and
it
didn't
require
upfront
investment
awesome.
Let's
do
it.
We
have
the
example
of
the
department
of
revenue
that
had
improvements
in
their
mail
room
and
the
shift
to
online
services
from
their
folks
led
to
a
243
000
reduction.
Their
postage
needs.
That's
amazing,
that's
great.
G
This
is
where
we're
incorporating
that
in
other
areas
where
we
do
need
to
make
upfront
investments
to
make
these
sustainable
changes
and
that's
why
we
have
the
operations
transformation
fund,
10
million
dollars
over
two
years
in
which
all
departments
are
getting
opportunities
to
request
funds
to
make
the
investments
to
enable
these
either
surprise,
efficiency,
improvements
and
there's
a
multi-departmental
team
that
is
evaluating
those.
Basically,
it's
like
shark
tank
situation-
and
this
is
what
we
propose
is
what
we
think
we
can
do
and
that's
led
out
of
the
cio's
office.
G
Looking
at
that,
so
we
do
this
a
couple
different
ways
and
we
talk
about
it
all
constantly,
because
we
are
definitely
have
learned
in
the
past
couple
years
that,
when
we
have
to
city
government
can
in
fact
be
nimble
and
do
things
differently.
It's
breathtaking
and
exciting
and
like
a
testament
to
all
the
city
employees,
the
way
that
we
stood
up
new
services
or
pivoted
services-
obviously
not
perfect,
but
it
was
a
real
confidence
boost
and
a
really
trying
time.
We
could
do
stuff
differently
and
we
are
yeah.
I.
D
G
K
Good
afternoon,
everybody
in
the
police
department
is
not
equipped
with
a
cell
phone.
The
districts
that
have
the
mobility
project
are
the
22nd
24th
and
25th,
and
we
are
looking
to
expand
that
and
this
year
in
fy
23
budget,
there
was,
I
think,
a
commitment
of
like
2.7
million
dollars
to
help
sustain
and
in
some
instances
expand,
but
we're
not
there.
Yet
we
do
have
every
psa
lieutenant
has
a
cell
phone
and
there
are
key
positions
in
districts
and
divisions
that
have
them,
but
we're
not
nowhere
near
completely
staffed
with
phones.
B
Commissioner,
kotler
can
you
for
the
sake
of
the
record,
because
that
is
a
pilot
project
funded
by
an
outside
funder.
Can
you
speak
to
a
little
bit
about
that
mobility
project
that
we're
piloting,
and
I
know
I
have
it
in
the
24th
and
the
25th
police
district,
but
for
the
for
the
purposes
of
the
record,
what
we're
trying
to
build
out.
K
Yes,
ma'am
good
afternoon,
the
purpose
of
the
mobility
project,
as
it
was
envisioned,
was
pretty
much
a
dream
of
our
intelligence
bureau,
along
with
patrol
and
currently
being
funded
by
the
new
bauer
foundation.
To
let
us
get
it
off
the
ground
and
what
it's
designed
to
do
is
ensure
that
police
officers
have
the
devices.
Have
the
apps
have
the
real-time
information
regarding
things
that
are
occurring
within
the
area
of
the
mobility
project
and
the
results
initially
that
we
were
looking
for
was
the
crime
and
violence
reduction.
K
What
it
actually
yielded
was
reduction
in
that
area,
but
it
also
yielded
tremendous
community
buy-in,
because
members
of
the
community
had
access
to
their
officers
and
they
had
that
ability
to
send
something
and
get
pretty
much
instant
responses
when
they
were
sending
either
emails
or
crime
information
or
something
that
was
going
on
in
their
neighborhood.
So
it
really
gave
us
a
benefit
that
we're.
We
certainly
welcomed
it
wasn't
what
the
intention
was.
It
was
originally
crime
driven,
but
the
areas
that
were
picked
initially
were
the
24th,
25th
and
22nd.
K
Also
with
that
project,
we
were
able
to
get
phones
into
the
hands
of
all
of
our
homicide
investigators,
which
was
something
that
we've
talked
about
at
previous
council
sessions.
Looking
to
make
sure
that
those
folks
can
be
reached
by
secondary
victims,
family
members,
people
who
need
to
get
in
touch
with
their
investigator
without
them
having
to
give
out
their
personal
number.
So
we
had
had
success.
K
The
mayor
did
commit
to
mr
neubauer
and
to
the
organization
that
we
do
want
to
expand
this
and
move
it
forward
and
we're
fairly
confident
that
there
will
be
the
ability
to
attract
outside
funding
outside
of
city
government.
Now
that
there
is
a
commitment
to
get
this
moving
and
expanded
even
further.
D
I
mean
I'm
like
shocked
that
we
don't
have
this
across
the
board.
What
would
the
cost
be
deputy
commissioner
for
every
police
officer
to
have
a
cell
phone?
This
is
like,
like
the
basic
technology
that
we
don't
have
in
our
belief.
Our
public
safety
is
our
number
one
issue
and
our
police
officers
don't
have
cell
phones.
K
So
the
the
cost-
I
can
work
that
out
for
you,
the
cost
of
the
cell
phone.
Isn't
the
issue,
it's
the
monthly
plan
per
officer,
so
we
have
6300
officers
and
I
believe
it's
about
60
a
month
per
officer.
So
the
numbers
when
you
add
it
up,
are
pretty
staggering
as
to
what
the
cost
is
for
that
plan.
So
we
have
a
thousand
a
little
over
a
thousand
with
the
mobility
project
plus,
I
think,
an
authorization
of
about
six
or
seven
hundred
from
oit
that's
put
into
the
police
budget.
K
D
I'm
going
to
suggest
that
maybe
go
it's
six
thousand
dollars
a
police
officer
times
what
6300
police
officers
you
guys
can
probably
do
the
math
better
than
me,
but
it
sounds
like
6
million
300
000
we
have
a
budget
of
5.6
billion
seems
to
me.
We
should
be
authorizing
that,
like
now
like
public
safety
is
our
number
one
issue.
Why
are
we
not
making
sure
the
police
department
has
the
technology
to
help
us
with
public
safety.
G
D
B
Council
member,
you
know-
and
I
want
to
take
this
moment
and
thank
the
new
bauer
foundation
and
him
personally
who's
been
engaged
in
this
process.
You
know
piloting
this
program
so
that
we
as
we
incorporate
this
technology,
we
know
how
we
use
it,
how
how
officers
can
use
it
and
improve,
as
as
the
company
commissioner
saying
not
only
relationships
but
improve
the
reporting
of
issues
in
the
community
is
very
important,
so
I
agree
with
you
around
scaling
it
up,
but
I
also
agree.
B
I
also
want
you
to
know
that
piloting
it
and
changing
the
the
the
culture
around
the
utilization.
As
as
the
deputy
commissioner
stated,
these
are
younger
officers
who
are
embracing
this
more
there's
a
training
component
to
it,
and
then
I
remind
us
that
we
have
a
quite
significant
equipment
requirement
per
officer
as
it
is,
and
it's
this
should
be
added
to
it,
but
we
can't
think
of
a
phone
in
isolation
of
the
gear
and
everything
else
that's
part
of
their
negotiated
contract.
B
D
I
I've
spoken
to
joe
newberry
about
this
several
times,
I've
known
joe
for
over
40
years.
This
is
thank
god
for
him,
because
he
piloted
this
okay,
thank
god,
but
we
now
know
that
it
works
like
let's
just
duplicate
it
and
deputy
commissioner,
I'm
100
in
support
of
funding
it
for
every
officer,
and
I
I
don't
see
how
we
can't
not
support
them
in
this
with
this
technology.
It's
the
most
basic,
the
most
basic,
and
let
me
go
to
my
next
question
and
my
last
one.
D
G
A
J
D
A
B
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
a
couple
of
questions.
My
first
question:
we
have
requested
information
around
property
assessments
because
we
understand
that
once
we
have
some
foundational
understanding
of
where
we
are,
as
it
relates
to
property
assessments
in
city,
rev
it'll
give
us
a
better
view
of
the
city's
revenue
and
the
city's
fiscal
status.
So
I'm
wondering
where
we
are
with
that
and
how
that's
going
to
impact
some
of
the
financial
decisions
that
you're
asking
us
to
make
today.
G
Thank
you
for
the
question,
so
we
do
not
yet
have
all
the
details
on
the
property
assessments.
My
understanding
and
I
can
get
back
to
you
with
an
updated
timeline,
is
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
We
will
have
those
we
don't
anticipate
that
those
will
impact
any
of
the
decisions
in
this
bill
for
fy22,
because
those
new
assessments
will
impact
the
tax
bills
and
relief
programs
and
rates.
L
G
L
Okay,
that
would
be
helpful
for
us
because
we're
trying
to
balance
a
lot-
and
I
understand
that
these-
the
cleanup
that
we're
doing
right
now
is
not
necessarily
proud
parallel
to
it,
but
we're
using
our
fiscal
hat
and
physical
lens
to
think
about
all
this
stuff
couple.
Other
questions
I
want
to
go
back
to
the
gun,
violence,
research.
I
I've
been
in
a
lot
of
hearings.
L
I
haven't
missed
the
appropriations
hearing.
I
go
to
a
lot
of
this
special
committee
on
gun
violence
hearings.
I've
never
heard
about
money
being
allocated
for
any
gun,
violence,
research,
so
I'm
glad
to
see
that
it's
done,
but
based
on
councilmember
dom's
questioning
earlier.
I'm
told
that
this
is
not
the
first
time.
L
G
M
Just
a
quick,
quick
point
of
information
last
budget
cycle
councilman
thomas
myself
and
councilman
jamie
guardiere
provided
funding
to
the
health
department.
Actually,
we
found
out
what
you
saw
as
well
in
terms
of
the
allocation
of
that
funding
for
research
to
be
done
around
a
health
collaborative
of
all
the
hospitals
and
coming
up
with
a
comprehensive
plan
on
how
we
address
trauma
and
gun
violence
here
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
That
was
the
last
budget
cycle.
So
that's
a
little
bit
of
effort.
L
Councilman,
just
for
clarity
purposes
was
that
something
to
that
was
done
specifically
on
a
on
a
research
site,
or
was
it
something
that
done
to
collect
the
data
and
inform
current
practices,
because
this
gives
me
the
impression
that
we're
supposed
to
do
a
dive
into
like
some
type
of
research?
I
mean
it's
very
vague
right
now,
but
I'm
just
you
know
seeing
if
this
is
parallel
to
what
you
and
the
council
member
advocated
for.
If
we're
talking
about
the
same
thing,
yeah.
M
After
research
and
data
collection
was
around
the
same
thing
right
in
terms
of
addressing
the
issue
around
tribal
but,
most
importantly,
the
collaborative
of
all
the
hospitals.
But
if
you
want
additional
information
I
said,
then
they
have
to
provide
it
to
you.
Excuse
me
councilman
thomas,
but
I
do
know
we
provided
funding
to
the
health
department
to
do
a
deeper
dive
around
the
health
health.
I
call
the
health
initiative
collaborative
around
gun
violence.
B
Thank
you
members.
I
think
it's
real
important,
there's
a
whole
harm
reduction
unit
at
the
health
department.
That
looks
at
many
issues,
gun
violence
being
one
of
them
and
we
should
absolutely
get
the
health
department
to
give
us
a
copy
of
that
structure,
because
you
know
they're
working
they're,
the
folks
working
on
the
safe
injection
site,
they're,
the
folks
working
on
the
wound,
care,
they're,
they're,
the
again
the
some
of
that
prevention
work,
that's
being
done,
and
we
should
get
a
full
report
around
the
unit.
B
L
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
everybody
for
the
clarity
I
on
the
police
side,
the
the
money
that
we're
allocating
for
forensics
to
be
able
to
address
backlogs
and
cases.
Can
you
just
give
us
a
little
explanation
on
what
you
expect?
The
outcome
will
be
once
we
see
those
dollar
trend,
those
dollars
transfer.
What
will
it
provide
for
you
and
what
can
we
expect
to
see
as
a
result
of
the
dollars
being
spent
on
for
residents?
I'm
always
a
fan
of
of
advocating
for
money
spent
on
for
residents.
K
If
there
wasn't
a
victim
to
get
that
all
caught
up,
get
all
that
information
in
the
system
and
truthfully
the
number
could
be
much
larger,
but
we
only
have
three
months
left
in
a
fiscal
year.
So
that's
what
we
can
spend
in
this
short
amount
of
time
to
get
some
of
that
backlog
done.
So
it's
just
doing
more
work,
getting
more
things
done,
but
contracting
it
out
because
of
capacity.
L
K
I
couldn't
give
you
the
frequency,
but
I
know
that
director
garvey
would
be
able
to
provide
that
to
you.
It's
a
shared
response.
I
know
that
there's
some
stuff,
that
we
contract
out
some
stuff
that
we
do
in-house
and
a
lot
has
to
do
with
either
the
expertise
or
the
capacity
to
do
it,
based
on
the
number
of
personnel
that
we
have
in
the
size
of
our
lab.
But
I
can
get
him
to
give
you
a
breakdown
each
year
of
what
gets
done
in-house
and
what
gets
contracted
out.
L
That
would
be
great
I
I
would
definitely
appreciate
that
will
help
for
some
of
the
advocacy
that
we've
done
around
local
procurement,
as
well
as
just
the
idea
of
advocating
for
more
initiatives
around
public
safety.
My
last
thing
before
I
go,
actually
you
know
what
never
mind.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
appreciate
it
everyone.
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you're
doing.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
council.
Member
thomas.
I
know
this
forensic
issue
continues
to
pop
up.
It's
something
the
da's
office
has
talked
about
another,
so
I
applaud
the
department
trying
to
move
that
forward
and
clearing
the
homicide
rate.
So
with
that
out,
the
chair
recognizes
council
member
catherine,
gilmore
richardson.
E
G
Thank
you
councilmember.
I
will
as
as
I
said
earlier,
I
don't
know
off
the
top
of
my
head.
What
that
team
looks
like.
I
would
suspect
that
sustainability
is
certainly
involved
because
they've
been
talk.
I
literally
was
talking
with
them
this
morning
about
ev
infrastructure,
but
we'll
get
back
to
you
with
an
understanding
of
who's
working
on
ev
infrastructure.
What
the
charge
and
mission
of
that
group
is
in
the
scope.
E
E
You
know
any
help
or
support
for
our
constituents,
and
so,
as
we
deliberate
this
potential
transfer,
I
just
wanted
to
put
it
on
the
record
to
to
a
let
you
know
about
that.
Bx.
If
there
is
a
solution
and
see
if
there
is
not
a
solution
for
that
particular
area,
I
am
not
in
position
to
support
this
bill
until
that
issue
is
resolved.
G
Council
member,
thank
you
so
much
for
raising
that,
and
I
I
am
delighted
to
be
able
to
tell
you
that
oit
and
public
safety
folks
are
aware
and
working
on
that
issue
next
month
in
may.
They
will
be
doing
a
test
in
that
area,
for
I'm
gonna
get
the
it
wrong,
but
basically
like
an
antenna
booster
for
the
signal.
The
reason
they
can't
do
it
yet
is.
G
We
need
to
wait
for
there
to
be
more
leaves
on
the
trees,
because
we
need
to
make
sure
that
the
proposed
solution
can
actually
send
a
signal
through
all
of
the
leafy
trees
over
there
and
they're.
Expecting,
though,
that,
should
the
pilot
work
next
month,
they'll
be
looking
at
how
to
fund
this
booster
with
a
combination
of
pima,
911
grant
dollars
and
capital
dollars.
E
G
Certainly
so
we
so
the
public
safety
radios,
we
need
to
replace
them
sort
of
citywide
police
prisons
fire
and
we
needed
to
start
doing
that
in
fy,
21
pre-pandemic,
and
so
the
idea
of
putting
that
funding
in
this
transfer
ordinance
is
letting
us
sort
of
catch
up
from
two
years.
I'm
not
sure
if
folks
from
oit,
christinato
or
nadine
dodger
on
this
call
and
able
to
speak
to
how
quickly
we'll
be
able
to
get
that
up.
But
we
can
certainly
if
they
are
not
get
back
to
you
with
the
anticipated
timeline.
H
So
timeline
for
the
radios,
your
name
for
the
record,
please!
Oh,
I
do
apologize
nadine
dodge
deputy
cio
for
office
of
innovation
technology,
so
I
I
heard
two
parts
of
that
question.
The
first
is
the
deployment
of
the
radio,
so
we
would,
as
marissa
stated,
we
did
plan
to
begin
that
refresh
a
couple
of
years
ago
and
because
of
the
the
the
issues
with
obtaining
funding
during
covid,
we
did
delay
that.
So
currently
there
are
7
500
radios
in
existence
being
used
by
prisons,
fire
and
police.
H
Total
cost
of
replacement
is
35
million
dollars,
so
that
10
million
dollars
would
put
us
well
on
our
way
to
begin
the
replacement
of
the
fleet
of
radios
that
are
in
the
field.
So
we
would
be
beginning
that
effort
as
soon
as
we
obtained
the
money.
We
would
encumber
that
funding
and
start
to
deploy
those
radios.
H
H
E
Okay,
that'll
be
exceedingly
helpful.
I
understand
that
time
is
of
the
essence.
Based
on
your
response.
Marissa,
you
talked
about
additional
capital
needs
to
ensure
that
oit
and
the
necessary
coverage
is
available
in
this
area
and
that
you
all
have
already
undertaken
this
process.
Are
the
capital
dollars
there
in
order
to
get
this
done?.
G
E
We're
good
okay,
and
so
I'm
just
asking
that
question
for
the
record,
because
I
did
hear
the
response,
but
I
want
to
ensure
that
there
is
nothing
additional
do
to
ensure
that
that
work
moves
forward,
because
it
is
my
understanding
that
this
issue
has
been
happening
for
a
very
long
time
and
it
has
not
been
addressed.
And
so
I
want
to
ensure
that
we
have
a
process
in
writing
to
address
this
issue
again
before.
I
can
be
supportive
of
this
bill.
E
And
if
you
could
submit
that
to
the
chair
and
to
all
of
my
colleagues
for
their
information,
absolutely
okay,
excellent
and
then.
Lastly,
I
wanted
to
go
back
to
the
issue
that
madam
chair
mentioned
regarding
the
school
crossing
guards-
and
I
heard
your
answer,
but
I
just
wanted
to
get
that
on
the
record,
because,
as
madam
chair
stated,
I
too
receive
the
calls
about
that
issue
and
sort
of
the
uneasiness
from
the
crossing
guards
relative
to
being
moved
from
department
to
department,
and
they
also
mentioned
their
ability
to
interface.
E
You
know
not
only
with
the
schools
but
with
the
police
officers
as
they're
doing
their
work
in
the
community,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
ensure
that
a
regular
communication
was
taking
place
with
the
crossing
guards
and
with
their
leadership.
So
they
are
comfortable
with
all
the
next
steps
that
will
be
taking
place
over
the
next
several
weeks
and
months.
J
So
I'm
glad
dc
coulter
jumped
in
as
well.
But
thank
you
for
the
question
council
member.
So
we
are
dedicated
to
making
sure
that
this
is
a
very
smooth
transition
and
we
recognize
that
the
police
department
are
going
to
be
critical
partners
in
this
transition
throughout.
They
play
a
critical
role
in
public
safety
and
school
safety
every
day
and
when
the
crossing
guards
transition
over,
that's
not
going
to
change,
and
so
we're
in.
J
We
have
a
monthly
check-in
with
the
labor
leadership
and
we're
communicating
with
the
crossing
guards
directly
to
let
them
know
about
this
change.
But
our
goal
is
for
this
to
be
seamless
for
the
crossing
guard
so
that
they
can
continue
to
focus
on
their
job
of
making
sure
the
students
are
safe.
And
then
we
will
work
on
the
bat
in
the
background
to
make
sure
that
that
the
transition
is
smooth
but
dc
cult
or
anything
you'd
want
to
add.
K
Yes,
just
with
regards
to
police,
they
will
always
be
a
resource
and
a
partner
to
us
and
there's
not
going
to
be
any
change
in
the
value
of
that
relationship.
They
have
been
and
will
continue
to
be
eyes
and
ears
for
police
they're.
A
great
assist,
they're,
truly
a
great
partner
and
I've
spoken
with
their
union
leadership
made
sure
that
they
know
that
our
district
roll
call
rooms
will
always
be
available
for
them
to
have
meetings.
There'll
always
be
that
relationship
that
officers
will
still
stop
check
on
them.
K
B
Of
information
deputy
commissioner,
I
think
it's
important
there's
a
reporting
thing
right
right
now
they
report
to
the
districts.
Can
you
speak
to
operationally?
Do
they
still
go
to
the
district
how's
that
going
to
change?
Because
I
think
what
they're
feeling
and
again
the
apprehension
of,
because
when
they
go
report
in
and
then
when
they're
reporting
out,
they
have
direct
access
to
captains
and
police
officers
to
respond
right
to
the
things
that
they
hear
so
how's
that
going
to
change?
Are
they
still
reporting
through
that
mechanism?.
K
E
Okay,
that
is
helpful,
and
I
think
they
were
also
concerned
relative
to
accidents
that
happened
in
their
area.
So
I
think
that
was
the
the
crust
of
the
concern
that
I
received,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
that
response
and
marissa.
I
just
will
await
the
information
regarding
the
the
fifth
police
district
in
that
area
that
we
discussed-
and
I
see
my
colleague
councilmember
jones-
is
here-
that's
in
his
council
district.
E
B
Thank
you,
councilmember
gilmore
richardson,
and
by
the
way,
welcome
to
the
committee
prior
to
your
joining
the
committee.
This
was
an
all-male
and
me
committee,
so
I
welcome
you
to
this
process
and
your
work
council.
Member
jones.
Did
you
want
to
add
anything
to
the
advocacy
that
catherine
gilmore
richardson
was
speaking
to.
F
B
B
N
Rochelle
below
served
for
the
city
and
county
of
philadelphia
to
chairwoman
and
to
all
the
members
of
the
committee
good
afternoon,
and
I
just
wanted
to
chime
in
and
my
team
is
on
here.
Also,
you
have
tariq
al-shabaab,
my
underserved,
you
have
craig
martin,
my
budget
officer.
You
have
erica
davenport,
my
chief
of
staff.
He
has
john
hodges,
who
is
my
hr
manager?
You
have
mike
dructer,
who
is
the
director
of
court
and
operations?
N
We
have
been
having
conversations
with
the
administration
in
reference
to
equipment
that
is
not
here,
and
that
is
desperately
needed.
According
to
our
shirts,
as
you
know,
I
came
in
as
the
sheriff's
on
january,
the
sixth
twenty
twenty.
What
I
began
to
uncover
was
to
me
drastic.
I
come
from
a
police
department
that
has
very
much
kept
up
on
the
equipment
that
officers
needed,
especially
those
in
the
line
of
duty,
but
what
I
saw
here
was
a
horrible.
N
My
deputies
are
wearing
outdated
vests
from
2004,
but
it
goes
so
back
forward
that
what
I
saw
was
that
they
didn't
get
equipment
to
come
in
from
a
purchase
order.
They
went
to
a
warehouse
and
they
was
told
to
go
pick
out
something
and
what
they
pick
out
was
worse
than
what
I
could
never
see
for
anybody.
If
you
notice
that
we
are
a
part
of
every
large
event
that
happens
in
this
city,
we
are
part
of
the
protests.
We
are
part
of
the
celebrations.
N
We
are
part
of
everything
that
happens
in
the
city
and
it's
appalling
for
the
administration
to
not
want
to
fund
deputy
sheriffs
to
have
equipment
that
keeps
them
safe,
especially
their
vests,
especially
riot
gear.
We
are
in
a
vulnerable
state
and
for
each
and
every
one
of
them
that
participate
in
these
events,
not
to
have
the
proper
equipment
to
me
is
appalling.
B
B
We
have
talked
to
the
administration,
and
I
know
that
you're
scheduled
to
testify
for
your
fiscal
23
budget
next
week
and
we'll
continue
to
work
with
you,
as
we
have
around
managing
some
of
the
work
your
charter
mandated
work
and
the
work
that
you're
doing
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
and
work
through
that
process
and
continue
to
commit
with
to
work
with
you
through
throughout
that
process.
Do
any
members
of
the
committee
have
a
question
for
the
sheriff
at
this
point?
F
F
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
councilman
jones,
and
you
were
not
here
when
I
started
my
questioning
with
the
budget
office.
You
know
over
the
last
few
years,
in
particular
in
this
role
council
under
the
direction
of
council
president
clark
and
obviously
bob
mcdern
mcdermott,
our
finance
director.
We
have
found
ourselves
in
many
conversations
you
heard
chair.
Lady
daily
talk
speak
yesterday
around
some
of
her
challenges.
B
We
are
committed
to
work
through
this
budget
process
to
ensure
that
they
have
the
resources
they
need,
as
they're,
independently
elected
with
a
mandate
and
some
charge,
sometimes
with
a
charter
mandate
to
fulfill
a
responsibility
and
professionalizing
and
supporting
and
giving
folks
the
equipment
they
need
to
do
their
jobs.
Is
our
responsibility
and
and
council
to
work
with
the
administration
on
this.
B
So
we're
we're
committed
to
it
and
thank
you
sheriff
for
coming
and
for
your
entire
team
for
coming
and
putting
that
on
the
record
and
again
you
will
be
testifying
next
week
for
your
full
budget
and
we
look
forward
to
a
more
robust
conversation
about
the
work
that
you
have
done
since
coming
into
office.
So
thank
you
all
so
very,
very
much
that
will,
if
there's
no
one
else
here.
Oh
wait!
Member
kathleen,
gilmore
richardson
has
a
quick
question.
Remember
richardson!
B
E
Thank
you
so
much.
Madam
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
circle
back
to
ensure
that
I
was
clear
because
I'm
now
on
my
computer
and
not
on
my
phone
to
see
if
the
administration
will
be
submitting
something
in
writing
to
us
before
we
have
to
take
the
vote
on
this
bill
regarding
the
manner
I
specifically
talked
about
for
the
oit
issue
and
the
police
radios
up
in
the
fifth
police
district.
B
B
We
will
now
go
into
our
public
meetings.
There
be
no
further
questions
from
members
of
the
committee
or
other
witnesses
to
testify
will
ask
if
there's
anyone
else
present
if
there's
not
hearing
none.
I
want
to
thank
all
the
panels
and
witnesses
for
their
participation.
Today,
we
value
your
opinions.
I
I
now
invite
all
panels
of
witnesses
to
please.
Madam.
F
B
B
M
All
right
well,
but
I
did
just
want
to
follow
up
on
councilman
curtis
jones
comments
regarding
the
sheriff's
department.
It
should
also
not
go
on
unrecognized
that
during
a
pandemic
when
the
world
fell
apart,
we
didn't
know
what
we
were
going
to
do
as
a
city.
It
was
a
sheriff's
department
that
stepped
up
and
provided
additional
manpower
to
keep
the
city
of
philadelphia
moving
forward.
M
Now
remember
calling
the
sheriffs
and
commending
her,
because
we
are
living
in
a
city
right
now.
That
feel
like
there's
a
lot
of
lawlessness
going
on,
and
so
I
commended
her
and
hunting
for
still
holding
those
encounters
that
think
that
they
can
kill,
rob
and
destroy
people's
lives
and
get
away
with
it,
and
so
I'm
glad
that
this
council
stepped
up
to
the
plate
as
we
always
do
and
provide
the
necessary
support
when
it
comes
to
providing
the
sheriff
members
their
best,
but
also
without
question
moving
forward.
M
It
shouldn't
even
be
a
a
question
if
we
want
to
provide
the
necessary
resources
that
they
need
to
be
on
the
front
line,
apprehending
individuals
and
so
sheriff
the
loudest
one.
To
give
you
on
your
team,
your
personal
and
public
accolades,
because
when
we
talk
about
the
public
safety,
we
cannot
diminish
the
work
that
the
sheriff's
office
is
doing,
and
so
I'm
definitely
sure
if
it
was
police
officers
saying
they
need
vests.
We
wouldn't
even
have
this
conversation,
because
we
already
know
this
upcoming
budget
process.
M
N
B
Thank
you,
council,
member
johnson
and
council
member
thomas
again,
I'm
going
to
try
this
again
and
I
just
want
to
go
on
the
record
and
saying
that
I
was
saying
the
wrong
bill
number.
So
this
concludes
the
appropriations
hearing
for
bill
number.
Two:
two:
zero:
two,
nine
one.
We
will
now
go
into
our
public
meeting.
The
chair
will
now
ask
all
panels
and
witnesses
to
please
disconnect
from
the
meeting
before
we
go
into
the
public
meeting.
Folks
can
log
off
hi.
B
B
B
M
I
L
B
M
B
Second,
thank
you.
Oh
the
the
motion
has
been
moved
in
second,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
I
I
in
the
opposition,
seen
not
none.
It's
been
a
move
and
properly
second,
that
the
amended
bill
220291
be
reported
from
this
committee
with
a
favorable
recommendation
and
further
move
that
the
rules
accounts
will
be
suspended
to
permit
first
reading
at
our
next
session.
This
concludes
the
business
before
this
committee
on
appropriations.
Today,
I
want
to
thank
all
of
that
all
the
members
for
your
attendance
and
your
patience
throughout
this
process.