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Description
The Joint Special Committee on Gun Violence Prevention & Committee on Children and Youth of the Council of the City of Philadelphia held a Public Hearing on Wednesday, April 7, 2021, and recessed the public hearing until Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 1:00 PM to hear further testimony on the legislative item listed below:
200524 Resolution authorizing the Committees on Gun Violence Prevention and Children and Youth to conduct joint hearings to examine the need for universal access to trauma counseling for Philadelphia’s youth.
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B
I
understand
that
state
law
currently
requires
that
the
following
announcement
be
made
at
the
beginning
of
every
remote
public
hearing
due
to
the
current
public
health
emergency
city,
council
committees
are
currently
meeting
remotely.
We
are
using
microsoft
teams
to
make
these
remote
hearings
possible
instructions
for
how
the
public
may
view
and
offer
public
testimony
at
public
hearings
of
council
committees
are
included
in
the
public
hearing,
notices
that
are
published
in
the
daily
news,
the
philadelphia,
enquirer
and
legal
intelligencer
prior
to
the
hearings
and
can
also
be
found
on
phlcouncil.com.
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C
Good
morning,
madam
chair,
looking
forward
towards
engaging
conversation
for
today's
hearing.
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B
Thank
you
so
much
so,
as
as
individuals
know,
our
our
council,
chair
will
be
joining
us
council.
B
Member
johnson
will
be
joining
us
shortly,
and
this
is
a
continuation
of
the
conversation
from
last
week's
hearing
and
given
that
the
mayor's
budget
address
landed
this
morning,
this
is
also
a
really
important
time
for
us
to
continue
the
conversation
around
the
city's
prioritization
of
addressing
public
safety
dealing
with
gun
violence
and,
in
particular,
dealing
with
the
trauma
and
the
counseling
supports
that
are
necessary
to
help
young
people
deal
with
what
what
the
past
year
has
has
brought
to
them.
B
Last
week
we
heard
from
leadership
of
the
school
district
and
city
agencies
we
heard
from
doctors
and
principals
and
from
the
leaders
of
community
organizations
that
are
working
to
support
young
people
experiencing
trauma.
We
also
know
that
there
are
about
25
schools,
charter,
alternative
and
public
schools
that
are
deeply
impacted
by
by
gun
violence,
in
particular.
B
The
amount
of
gun
violence
impacting
youth
in
our
city
is
staggering
not
only
about
the
tragedy
that
happened
last
night
in
council
member
gautier's
district,
but
there
have
been
over
750
school-aged
children
who
are
shooting
victims
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
since
january
1st
of
2020.
It
is
unacceptable.
B
It
is
horrifying
and
is
deeply
deeply
harmful
to
our
city.
The
impact
of
gun
violence
on
our
youth
is
not
evenly
distributed
across
our
school
system.
Over
50
percent
of
those
young
shooting
victims
were
enrolled
in
just
25
schools
in
the
city.
We
know
that
we
have
to
do
more
to
support
those
young
people.
B
We
know
that
those
school
staff
at
those
particular
schools
need
additional
help
and
support
and
services,
and
when
we
are
doing
things
such
as
conflict
resolution,
such
as
expanding
counseling
supports
such
as
helping
young
people
connect
connected
jobs,
other
types
of
supports
in
schools
we
we
can
better
handle.
You
know
the
situation
that
that
our
that
our
city
is
facing
right
now.
B
I
look
forward
to
hearing
from
panelists
today
about
the
need
for
trauma
counseling
for
youth
in
the
wake
of
violence
and
I'm
committed
to
securing
our
young
people,
the
resources
they
need
and
deserve,
and
I
know
I
speak
on
behalf
of
all
of
our
colleagues
and
members
of
the
of
our
respective
committees,
with
that
I'd
like
to
offer
any
of
my
other
colleagues
an
opportunity
for
any
opening
remarks.
If
you
are
available
for
it.
B
Great
scene,
none
we're
going
to
begin
to
hear
testimony
from
the
witnesses
we
have
today.
Everyone
who
has
been
invited
to
the
meeting
to
testify
should
be
aware
that
this
public
hearing
is
being
recorded
and
because
the
hearing
is
public,
participants
and
viewers
have
no
reasonable
expectation
of
privacy.
By
continuing
to
be
in
the
meeting
you're
consenting
to
being
recorded.
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D
B
We
we
asked
that
the
chat
feature
only
be
used
for
this
purpose
and
only
be
used
by
council
members,
and
with
that
again
I
want
to
express
my
gratitude
for
today's
panelists,
many
of
whom
were
prepared
to
speak
last
week
and
generously
made
themselves
available
again
today.
Will
the
clerk
please
call
the
first
panel
darcy.
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F
Uplift
center
for
grieving
children
helps
children
grieving
a
death
to
heal
and
grow
through
with
their
grief,
while
strengthening
families,
communities
and
professionals,
understanding
of
how
best
to
respond
to
their
needs.
Our
vision
is
simple
and
direct.
No
child
should
have
to
grieve
alone
to
effectuate.
This
mission
and
vision
uplift
provides
free
grief
groups
to
children
who
have
lost
a
significant
person
in
their
life.
These
groups
provide
support
and
coping
skills
for
grieving
youth
and
are
provided
in
several
formats
in
the
family
services
format.
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Both
the
child
and
caregiver
attend
concurrent
peer
grief
groups
facilitated
by
clinicians
families
can
attend
as
long
as
they
need.
We
also
offer
shorter
term
grief
groups
in
schools
and
community
organizations.
These
groups
run
between
six
to
eight
weeks.
All
grief
groups
are
run
by
master's
level,
trained
clinicians
and
are
curriculum
based.
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Finally,
uplift
provides
training
to
professionals
throughout
the
city
of
philadelphia
to
date
this
year
and
just
to
give
you
scope,
we've
run
66
family
grief
groups
for
children,
youth
and
caregivers,
and
we
will
be
providing
another
16
by
june,
with
additional
summer
grief
programming
planned
in
schools.
We
have
provided
grief
groups
to
55
schools
and
with
another
43
schools
receiving
support
this
spring,
and
I
want
to
note
that
this
number
is
actually
reduced
from
prior
years.
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The
prior
year
we
actually
ran
200
school
grief
groups,
it's
just
with
the
virtual
learning
that
we've
seen
a
decrease
in
school
groups,
but
actually
an
increase
in
our
family
grief
groups.
We've
provided
post-crisis
support
and
legacy
groups
to
nearly
500
youth
and
the
surge
in
gun,
violence
and
death.
You
know
has
been
extremely
dramatic
each
week
I
see
three
to
four
emails
about
different
schools,
taking
support
to
debt
to
deaths
of
students.
F
Finally,
we've
trained
more
than
2
200
professionals
since
september
and
grief
and
trauma
when
school
is
closed.
In
march
of
2020,
we
partner
with
dr
jamie
banks
in
the
school
district
of
philadelphia
to
create
the
philly
hope
line,
a
helpline
that
provides
support
for
children,
caregivers
and
families
who
are
experiencing
mental
health
issues
such
as
stress,
anxiety
and
isolation,
losses
such
as
death
loss
or
ambiguous
loss
and
other
crises.
F
This
work
has
offered
the
clinical
staff
staff
at
uplift
a
front
row
seat
to
the
to
the
crises
that
are
facing
our
city,
including
gun,
violence,
homicide,
copa,
19
the
fall
of
the
pandemic
and
racial
trauma.
These
crises
did
not
individually
rise
overnight,
they've
been
building
for
years,
and
now
they
have
combined,
together
with
the
pandemic,
to
put
philadelphia's
youth
families
and
city
at
large
in
a
state
of
crisis.
F
Youth
coming
to
uplift
do
not
come
to
talk
to
group
and
speak
of
grief
in
a
vacuum.
Instead,
they
find
uplift
because
of
the
grief
they
may
have
experienced
when
their
dad
died
by
homicide
or
their
mother
succumbed
to
okovid,
but
they
soon
begin
to
speak
of
these
other
crises
and
how
they
are
impacting
their
young
lives.
They
talk
about
the
effect
of
walter,
wallace,
jr's
death
and
their
fears.
They
speak
about
the
violence
in
their
neighborhoods,
even
if
the
person
they
are
grieving
did
not
die
by
violence.
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F
Here's
what
tops
our
list
trauma
should
be
dealt
with
first,
but
grief
is
what
often
presents
how
youth
and
families
access
services
matters
and,
as
a
clinician
and
social
worker.
I
know
that
when
working
with
an
individual
who's
experiencing
both
trauma
and
grief,
whether
they're
related
or
not,
the
trauma
should
be
treated
first.
But
what
we're
finding
at
uplift
is
that
we
often
don't
have
that
luxury
families
are
overwhelmed
with
grief
and,
if
turned
away
for
some
individual
trauma
support,
they
might
never
get
any
support.
F
There's
an
under
awareness
of
what
exists
three
city
agencies
put
into
place
for
violence,
prevention
or
similar
functions,
often
are
not
working
directly
with
community-based
organizations
for
input
on
program,
design
or
services,
which
can
result
in
underfunding
of
pre-existing
programs
and
duplication
of
services
already
in
existence
four.
While
recent
efforts,
such
as
network's
network
of
neighbors,
have
provided
coordination
and
collaboration
and
post-crisis
response
among
service
providers,
greater
collaboration
and
coordination
is
still
needed.
Community
organizations
operate
with
extremely
limited
resources,
and
better
coordination
and
collaboration
will
allow
for
these
resources
to
be
used
most
effectively.
F
Five,
we
need
to
give
youth
and
families
a
voice
in
the
service,
design
and
development.
Reducing
trauma
for
youth
involves
includes
giving
youth
a
larger
voice,
more
autonomy
and
self-efficacy
in
the
response
to
the
crises
they
are
facing.
I
was
pleased
to
hear
council
member
kim's
remarks
last
week
about
the
youth
roundtable.
F
F
Sixth
funding:
I
know
that
you
all
are
probably
waiting
for
that
word
from
an
executive
director
of
a
nonprofit,
but
it's
true
each
and
every
community
organization.
I
know
working
in
the
sector
could
use
more
funding
for
more
clinicians
to
provide
more
services
to
give
them
the
ability
to
get
their
services
around
the
community
they
serve
or
across
the
city
and
to
be
able
to
provide
longer
term
grief
and
trauma,
support
beyond
the
immediate
response
or
a
short-term
solution.
F
What
we
were
facing
didn't
arise
overnight
and
the
response
is
not
a
short-term
one.
We're
looking
at
more
than
a
decade
of
work
to
support
youth
who
are
reeling
from
a
crisis
that
started
before
us
and
still
rage
on
in
closing,
as
an
organization
focused
primarily
on
grief,
support
and
education.
Uplift
center
for
green
children
strongly
supports
this
resolution
and
the
need
for
trauma
counseling
for
youth
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
F
We
know
that
proper
clinical
support
can
stem
additional
violence
and
the
physical
and
mental
health
risks
associated
with
the
adverse
childhood
experiences
that
philadelphia's
children
and
youth
are
facing
on
a
daily
basis.
Should
such
counseling
be
funded.
We
urge
that
the
considerations
and
gaps
we
raise
be
considered,
including
youth
leadership
and
design,
relying
on
pre-existing
community
organizations
to
provide
services
and
encouraging
collaboration
and
coordination
of
efforts
to
best
use
to
best
use
organizational
resources.
B
To
our
next
testifier,
are
you
connected
and
ready
to
speak
and
if
you
are,
if
you
could
just
if
you
could
just
just
thank
your
name
for
your
name
for
the
record.
E
E
E
E
E
E
It
is
having
students,
say
and
talk
about
being
in
their
homes
to
watch
tv
or
play
video
games
over
the
weekend,
because
that
will
keep
them
alive
versus
going
outside.
And,
lastly,
it's
having
a
student
want
to
buy
a
gun
to
stay
safe.
The
stories
above
create
a
small
snapshot
of
the
narrative
that
our
school
community
is
facing
each
day.
Each
day
we
get
on
the
roller
coaster
to
support
our
school.
We
are
the
gatekeepers
of
trauma,
we
are
in
a
crisis
and
we
need
a
plan
of
support.
We
need
change.
E
E
The
space
for
healing
continues
to
be
disruptive
by
the
complexities
of
the
growing
needs,
and
it
continues
to
highlight
the
need
for
more
staffing,
more
programming,
funding,
prevention,
intervention,
education
and
training.
We
cannot
continue
to
normalize
this.
This
is
not
normal.
We
are
numb.
We
are
tired
and
we
need
to
work
together
to
change
the
narrative.
E
I
believe
the
space
that
we
form
in
a
school
community
creates
the
ability
to
thrive
or
falter.
We
need
to
be
able
to
hold
space
and
have
our
voices
be
heard,
creating
a
school
climate
which
teaches
and
guides
our
students
of
how
to
effectively
use
coping
skills
to
alleviate
their
trauma.
Reactions
that
they're
experiencing
is
essential.
E
It's
a
basic
human
need.
We
need
to
invest
in
our
school
communities
and
properly
change,
train
and
educate
each
staff
member
to
create
this
ripple
effect.
We
need
to
be
normalizing
self-care,
for
our
students
and
for
ourselves
and
to
be
able
to
integrate
this
into
the
fabric
of
our
school
community.
E
Camelot's
motto
is
family.
The
power
of
connections
with
our
students,
caregivers
and
partnerships
speaks
to
the
work
that
we
are
doing
to
create
lasting
change.
As
we
think
about
the
framework
of
trauma,
it
is
imperative
for
our
school
community
to
have
predictability
structure
and
to
decrease
the
chaos.
E
E
This
has
been
really
successful
to
building
the
rapport
and
making
meaningful
relationships
with
our
students,
but
also
constantly
assessing
right,
constantly
checking
in
with
our
students
to
notice.
Is
there
a
shift
in
their
most
emotional
presentation
who
may
need
a
one-to-one
check-in
as
well
as
weekly
advisory
meetings,
we're
doing
daily
group
counseling
sessions
where
we
hold
a
space
for
healing
for
our
students
to
learn
through
also
the
support
of
social,
emotional
learning,
as
well
as
doing
home
visits
and
one-to-one
counseling
supports?
E
E
E
I
cannot
say
enough
of
how
appreciative
I
am
for
this
partnership
with
camilla,
johnson
and
yolanda
hughes.
They
are
amazing
and
we
need
to
continue
to
bring
additional
resources
and
fundings
to
their
program
and
program
like
this
camelot
staff
is
now
able
to
be
trained
for
free
and
to
receive
accredited
certificate
for
the
investment
of
changing
our
school
community.
E
The
partnerships
that
our
school
community
develops
has
helped
keep
us
going
forward
in
this
time
of
need.
I
cannot
thank
enough
of
the
support
of
the
uplift
center
for
grieving
children.
They
came
right
away
to
us
when
our
student
was
murdered
due
to
gun
violence
and
offered
us
a
space
to
hold
for
not
only
our
students,
but
also
for
our
staff.
E
The
support
of
the
anti-violence
partnership
of
philadelphia
with
emily
dicarlo.
The
work
that
you
do
is
amazing,
and
I
thank
you
for
all
that
you
have
offered
us,
but
I
want
everybody
to
remember
too,
that
the
school
day
is
just
not
7
a.m
to
3
p.m.
It's
around
the
clock,
access
that
our
students
have
to
us.
We
know
that
the
protector
factors
have
caring
adults
in
a
life
right
that
help
promote
the
healing
process.
Students
hold
a
connection
with
us
and
we
cannot
continue
to
treat
them
like
a
business.
E
What
does
this
connection?
Look
like
it's
receiving
a
phone
call
from
a
past
student
because
their
younger
sibling
was
murdered
by
gun
violence
and
they
need
somebody
to
talk
to
it's
going
to
the
hospital
to
visit
a
student
to
show
them
that
you
care
it's
meeting
a
student
in
the
middle
of
the
neighborhood,
because
you
haven't
heard
their
voice
and
you're
worried
about
them.
You
need
to
lay
eyes
on
them
and
see
them.
We
are
the
lifeline
to
many
of
our
students.
E
So
the
question
is
this:
what
services
and
supports
are
missing?
I
believe
it's
crucial
that
we
develop
funding
to
provide
evidence-based,
trauma-informed
social-emotional
learning
curriculums
for
our
school,
that
we
need
adult
social-emotional
learning
with
proper
training
for
support
school
counselors
to
be
trained
in
c
bits
or
other
trauma-informed
care
mediation
programs
to
help
build
conflict
resolution
not
only
for
the
students,
our
youth,
but
for
our
entire
school
community
to
provide
support
for
compassion
fatigue
to
create
environment
environments
for
healings.
E
We
need
more
of
an
open
communication
for
the
systems
that
are
supporting
us.
Many
of
these
programs
look
great
on
paper
right,
but
they're
failing
our
students
from
my
personal
experience,
and
I
can
only
speak
for
myself.
The
ibhs
program
is
an
example
of
this.
We
cannot
continue
to
have
agencies
partner
with
our
school
and
work
in
silos.
E
E
I
should
have
not
have
to
individually
refer
each
student
to
a
service
when
our
school
community
is
in
pain
and
needs
healing
when
we
are
in
a
contract
for
support
or
having
three
weeks
to
three
months
to
have
a
referral
be
staffed
for
our
youth
or
when
my
student
is
in
crisis,
not
being
offered
the
support,
because
the
worker
did
not
make
a
rapport
enough
with
the
student
and
the
family.
These
are
just
some
of
the
many
examples
of
challenges
that
I've
experienced.
E
E
I
leave
each
of
you
with
a
small
outline
of
what
is
needed
to
help
create
change.
However,
this
is
a
conversation
that
needs
to
continue
with
the
actions
to
create
a
plan
that
will
have
lasting
ripple
of
flat
effects
on
our
school
community
for
the
ages
to
come.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
this
opportunity.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
and
I'm
glad
to
welcome
back
our
my
council,
co-chair
councilman
johnson
to
the
space.
Welcome
back.
B
I
had
a
few
questions
and
then
councilman
johnson,
if
you
wanted
chair
johnson,
if
you
wanted
to
ask
a
few
questions
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
to
the
rest
of
the
group.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
panel
for
your
on
the
ground,
expertise.
It
really.
You
know
similarly
to
what
we
heard
from
dr
lee
and
some
other
principals
last
week.
B
What
you
are
showing
is
how
differently
things
look
when
we
make
plans
on
on
paper,
but
the
end
of
the
day
they
really
have
to
get
into
school
communities.
They
have
to
be
felt
by
young
people,
and
you
know
the
staff
in
school
buildings
need
to
be
like
the
biggest
supporters
and
cheerleaders
of
saying
this
is
working.
So
I
you
know
we
are
going
a
little
bit
deep
on
on.
What's
not
working,
because
you
know
we
are
in
active
meetings,
for
example
miss
petrovsky
with
ibhs
it.
B
It
will
help
to
bring
your
testimony
to
them
and
also
to
be
specific
about
some
of
the
concerns
that
you
raised.
My
first
question
is
to
the
to
the
first
testifier
ms
krause
from
uplift,
and
I
wanted
to
know
if
you
could
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
your
comment
on
issue
number
three
cities:
agencies
I'll,
read
it
out
loud
again,
because
I
think
it's
important
for
us
and
it's
something.
I've
really
struggled
with
a
little
bit
more
so
city
agencies
put
into
place.
B
B
B
You
know
our
our
violence,
interrupters
and
just
you
know,
I
think
all
of
us
are
not
saying
anything
surprising
by
saying
it's
highly
highly
unlikely
that
many
of
the
youth
are
going
to
go
directly
to
the
police,
for
example,
as
their
first
belief
on
who's
going
to
be
a
violence.
Interrupter
they'll
go
more
likely
to
a
long-time
mentor,
a
family
member
that
they
trust
or
somebody
who
has
walked
them
through
a
process.
Excuse
me,
madam
chair.
G
B
B
Yes,
so
I
was
wondering
if
miss
crossy
could
expound
a
little
bit
more
on
that
and
maybe
offer
some
either
some
more.
You
know
inside
specifics.
You
know,
chair
johnson
and
I
are
interested
in
not
reforming
things.
You
know
we.
B
We
actually
want
to
build
these
things
that
work
and
so
hearing
some
of
your
stories
about
what
the
gaps
are,
will
help
us
try
to
address,
fix
or
change
things
entirely,
but
that
was
one
that
really
spoke
out
so
to
give,
I
wanted
to
give
you
space
to
expound
a
little
bit
more.
F
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
I
was
a
little
bit
nervous
to
put
that
actually
in
my
speech,
but
you
know
I've
been
at
uplift
now
for
a
little
over
eight
years,
and
so
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
both
sit
on
different
panels
and
not
you
know,
and
to
meet
with
other
agencies
that
are
doing
really
important
work,
and
so
and
over
the
years
I've
seen
different
committees
get
formed
or
different.
F
You
know
offices
get
created
under
different
administrations
and
what
I've
often
found
is
like,
maybe
like,
like
that
they
might
work
with
one
or
two
groups
or
they'll,
hear,
like
you
know
or
we'll
reach
out
to
them,
and
then
they'll
realize
that
we're
here.
But
what
happens
is
a
lot
of
times
this?
You
know
things
are
getting
and
it
comes
from
a
good
place.
It's
always
trying
to
like
actually
to
you
know,
make
change
to
effect
change
to
put
the
government's.
F
You
know,
support
behind
it,
but
the
problem
is:
is
that
without
drawing
on
the
community
resources
and
the
in
building
on
top
of
those,
because
there's
so
many
good
groups
out
there
doing
amazing
work,
I
mean
you
know.
We
work
with
amir
healing
center
that
you
know
chante
was
here
like
last
was
here
last
week,
and
you
know,
avp
with
you
know
was
just
mentioned
like
there
are
really
strong
groups
that
are
already
out
and
out
and
on
the
streets
in
the
city.
F
Doing
this
work
day-to-day
and
sometimes
what
I've
seen
is
that
committees
will
go
off
in
a
different
direction
and
not
work
with
these
groups
or
the
work
with
one
to
the
exclusion
of
others.
And-
and
it
really
is
one
of
these
things
that
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
do
better
if
we're
all
working
together
and
if
we're
working
with
groups
that
are
already
in
existence
already
doing
powerful
work
and
have
that
connection.
B
F
A
little
bit
of
all
the
above
honestly,
I
think
sometimes
we're
all
we
are
responding
in
crisis
right.
You
know
with
another
trauma
we
oftentimes
it
brings
about.
Our
own
trauma,
trauma
response
right
and
we
we
act
in
that,
but
I,
but
I
and
I,
and
I
really
like,
like
what
was
just
referenced
to
me.
I
think
the
network
of
neighbors
has
done
a
tremendous
job
and
we
work
closely
with
camilla
and
yolanda,
and
I
think
they've
done
a
great
job
of
working
on
that
coordination
piece.
F
I
think
there's
a
disconnect
between
the
community
and
and
this
kind
of
this,
maybe
some
of
the
government
decision
making.
I'm
not
that's
the
only
thing
I
can
guess,
because
I
because
I
think
that
we
all
know
who
we
are.
You.
F
We're
talking-
and
you
know
when
asked,
but
I
think
making
so
maybe
a
map
to
your
point,
maybe
having
some
kind
of
resources
like
that
could
be
useful.
B
And
then
my
second
question
is
whether
you
can
walk
us
through
the
process
of
of
grief,
and
you
know,
because
I
think
you
talked
a
little
bit
about
trauma
and
grief
and
look,
I
think,
they're
both
you
know
they're
tied
into
one
another.
We
had
a
pretty
intense
conversation.
We
kept
it
private
just
because
of
the
vulnerability
of
the
young
people
who
we
spoke
with,
but
I
think
all
the
members
most
of
the
members
on
the
committee
you
know
had
a
chance
to
to
listen
to
some
of
them.
B
You
know
they
spoke
about
depression.
You
know
that
it's
grief,
gone
untended,
trauma,
gone,
untended
becomes
a
longer-term
depression
that
you
know,
maybe
months
later
they
are.
You
know
able
to
identify
if,
if
they've
had
access
to
a
counselor
in
between
that,
but
they
talk
about
depression
that
can
also
convert
into
either
isolation
or
anger,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we've
been
hearing
from,
for
example,
the
school
district
of
philadelphia,
is
they
are
not
geared
up
and
some
some
things
that
we
hear
a
little
bit
from
the
city.
B
Is
that
we're
not
geared
up
for
long-term
supports
of
individuals,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I've
been
interested
in
is
both?
We
need
a
crisis
response
plan
very
clearly
like
you
need
to
be
able
to
respond
to
families
in
crisis,
and
I'm
talking
like
24
to
72
hour
plan.
You
know
a
first
week
plan
survive
the
first
month.
You
know
then
a
three
month
and
then
we
can
start
to
graduate
out,
but
you
know
repeatedly
we're
told
that
we
don't
have
long-term
plans
to
carry
individuals
through.
So
can
you
talk
about?
B
You
know
what
that?
What
that
means,
and
from
your
vantage
point
as
an
expert
in
this
field,
how
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
it?
You
know
and
what
would
be
the
consequences,
for
example,
of
not
dealing
with
some
of
this
long
term.
F
Absolutely
so,
whenever
I
talk
about
grief,
I
say
that
grief
is
a
lifelong
journey,
because
it's
not
you
know,
no
matter
when
we
lose
someone,
but
particularly
when
we
lose
someone
as
a
child,
it.
It
goes
along
you're
in
developmental
cycles,
both
as
a
child.
So
you,
whether
whether
you're
four
years
old,
don't
understand
the
permanency
of
death
or
whether
you're
an
adolescent
and
identify
with
the
person
that's
no
longer
here
and
wish.
You
had
still
had
that
person
here
or
graduation
wedding,
first
child
beyond.
F
So
all
these
things,
all
these
life
events
are
moments
where
grief
gets
kind
of
brought
back
up,
and
so
I
really
think
that
one
of
the
most
important
things
with
grief
is
giving
youth,
which
is
primarily
who
we
work
with,
but
as
well
as
caregivers,
but
giving
youth
the
so
socio-emotional
like
skills
to
be
able
to
process
what
they're
experiencing
to
be
able
to
have
the
words
just
the
words
for
what
you're
experiencing
identifying
the
tough
words,
maybe
sometimes
maybe
sometimes
you're
relieved.
F
When
someone
dies,
I
mean,
but
having
those
words
to
talk
about
that
about
that
and
then
having
coping
methods
that
are
healthy,
talking
about
healthy
coping
methods
and
helping
build
those
into
a
child's
life,
helping
them
identify
what
what
caregivers
they
can
rely
upon.
That's
critic
of
critical
importance.
The
literature
is
just
completely
is
been
resounding
about
that
for
years
that
a
caregiver
that
they
can
support
that
can
support
them.
F
They
can
go
to
and
helping
them
identify
that
person
and
then
figure
out
how
to
use
the
different
people
and
supports
in
their
lives
all
those
things
that
we
do
in
our
groups.
But
all
of
that
is
genuinely
what
kids
and
youth
need
when
they're
grieving
the
literature
I
mean,
the
literature
shows
that
unresolved
grief
it
does.
It
does
lead
to
depression.
It
leads
to
anxiety.
It
leads
to
reductions
in
academic
performance,
it's
hard
to
focus
in
class
when
you're
when
you've
lost
somebody,
I
mean
it's.
F
You
know
this
makes
sense
to
us
as
an
adult,
but
when
we
think
about
it
for
kids,
it
really
can
have
long
long
reaching
effects.
So
I
I
do
think
that
there's
there's
support
that
is
needed
for
for
youth
and
around
grief.
Specifically,
I
know
that
some
of
you
talked
about
having
connections
and
I
do
think
that
that's
an
important
piece
to
somebody
that
they
know
and
trust,
and
I
think
that
you
know,
I
think
that
we
do
that
within
our
groups.
F
That's
also
why
we
work
very
closely
with
the
schools
we'll
go
into
schools
and
work
with
counselors
that
they
know
or
teachers
that
they
know
we'll
work
closely
with.
You
know
we
work
with
chop,
and
then
we
have
a
site
there
and
they're
the
doctors
that
they
see
for
their
annual
visits
will
make
those
referrals.
F
So
it's
like
that
that
warm
hand-off
is
really
important,
but
you
know
it
really
is
something
that
that
really
cannot
be
ignored
and
and
very
frankly,
grief's
kind
of
having
a
moment,
sadly
like
just
around
the
country
right
now
with
the
pandemic.
But
it's
a
positive
thing
in
my
opinion,
because
for
far
too
long
people
have
kind
of
turned
a
blind
eye
to
grief,
and
I
think
that
what
we
really
that
doesn't
serve
anyone
well
particularly
children,.
B
G
Yeah
well,
thank
you
very
much
for
for
your
presentation
very,
very
informative.
I
have
a
question
for
camelot
regarding
the
the
number
of
schools
that
camelot
is
in
and
really
want
to
get
down
to.
Well,
first
of
all,
again
thank
you
darcy
and
samantha.
I
you.
You
really
touched
on
something,
that's
really
critical
and
important
to
me.
G
It's
it's
my
wish
for
the
school
district,
as
well
as
alternative
schools
and
as
well
as
charter
schools,
to
to
really
engage
in
some
type
of
which
we
talked
about
trauma,
informed
curriculum
and
services.
G
Right
and
through
this
process,
we
saw
the
number
of
young
people
who
were
shot
and
murdered
in
each
three
categories:
there's
public
schools,
charter,
schools,
alternative
schools
and
special
ed
schools,
which
shows
that
the
need
to
like
beef
up
services
and
support
for
those
children,
because
you
know
I'm
trying
to
really
look
at
how
these
young
people
processing
all
these
murders
and
shootings
that
they're,
seeing
on
a
day
to
day
basis,
and
so
I
just
want
to
get
an
idea
from
the
camelot
perspective.
G
How
many
schools
are
you
running
and
the
support
for
services
in
those
individual
schools,
and
you
have
numbers
in
terms
of
the
number
of
young
people
that
are
from
the
district
that
have
been
in
science
in
camelot
schools.
E
So,
mr
chair,
some
of
the
information
that
you
are
asking
I
would
have
to
come
back
at
another
time
to
give
you
specific
numbers.
I
oversee
two
locations
in
the
camelot
education
provider,
opportunity
network
at
this
time.
E
So
one
of
the
things
I
feel
as
though
a
lot
of
students
present
with
normalizing
the
grief
that
this
is
kind
of
something
that
is
going
to
happen
that
we've
experienced.
E
I
think
that
a
lot
of
times
we
don't
offer
a
space
to
heal
and
to
give
that
opportunity
to
to
feel
grief,
which
is
something
that
we're
working
on
with
our
students
to
to
be
able
to
give
the
vocabulary
to
be
able
to
have
the
space
to
offer
the
supports
as
they're
needed,
and
maybe
it's
not
the
first
time
right.
G
Just
just
want
to
get
an
idea
of
that:
okay
and
cam
that
will
be
considered
alternative
school,
correct.
G
E
So
one
of
the
things
that
it
depends
on
the
services
that
were
put
in
place
before
they
came
into
alternative
education,
so
there
usually
is
a
hearing
process.
Sometimes
there
is
identification
of
a
step
case
manager
from
their
previous
school.
That
may
be
referred.
Some
of
our
students
may
come
in
with
already
supports,
but
many
do
not
so
really
looking
at
our
school
provides
a
needs
assessment
looks
at
each
student
and
sees
what
supports
do
they
need,
and
then
we
work
from
an
individual
basis
going
forward
on
how
we
can
help
support
that.
G
Okay,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
say
for
the
record
one
key
component
that
you
talked
about,
that
some
of
our
young
people
feel
is
that
they
normalize
and
hear
me
out
how
and
normalize
the
level
of
gun
violence
that
they're
saying
the
death
that
they're
saying
the
shootings
that
they're
seeing
as
something
that's
suspected
and
it's
a
normal
part
of
our
lives,
particularly
when
you
live
in
black,
impoverished,
neighborhoods,
right
and
so,
and
the
critical
part
about.
G
G
It
was
like
you,
you
don't
know
right
because
of
the
shootings
and
the
murders
that
are
taking
place
in
your
neighborhood
on
a
day-to-day
basis
right
and
even
now
that
I'm
I'm
47
years
old,
I'm
a
father
with
two
children
who
I'm
raising
in
the
point
priest
neighborhood
as
I
reflect
upon
just
growing
up
in
this
neighborhood,
like
seeing
shootings
coming
up
on
the
scene
when
a
person
is
murdered
right.
And
how
do
you
process
that,
in
terms
of
me,
just
being
a
young
man.
G
Inside
the
neighborhood
and
how
I
go
about
my
day-to-day
life
and
do
I
become
more
aggressive
in
terms
of
carrying
guns
for
protection
or
to
defend
myself?
Do
I
act
out
in
terms
of
my
behavior
when
a
close
loved
one
or
a
close
friend
that
I've
grown
up
with
from
the
sandbox
to
high
school
is
murder
right?
G
How
you
processed
it
when,
if
you
don't
have
a
positive
outlet
in
terms
of
family
members
or
extended
community
members,
to
kind
of
really
invest
in
you
and
kind
of
give
you
that
space
to
kind
of
talk
about
how
you
feel
in
an
environment
where
particularly
being
masculine,
you
don't
want
to
share.
G
If
you
really
really
are
hurt-
and
I
see
a
lot
of
that
when
I'm
speaking
at
funerals
when
a
young
person
is
murdered
right
after
the
funeral,
how
young
people
are
processing,
processing
their
feelings,
either
retaliation
or
medicating
through
smoking,
marijuana,
percocet,
zannis
and
I'm
just
speaking
of
real
life
experience
in
terms
of
me
being
involved
inside
my
neighbor.
So
you
just
kind
of
highlighted
some
things.
G
That's
why
it's
critically
important
that
the
trauma-based
support
is
really
ingrained
in
our
education
system,
right
and
also
on
on
a
macro
level,
how
our
communities
are
suffering,
because,
if
you're
seeing
children
dying
or
being
shot
on
a
day-to-day
basis-
and
you
live
in
those
neighborhoods,
not
only
family
members
are
are
impacted,
but
the
residents
and
the
neighbors
who
are
living
in
this
very
same
environment.
G
Who,
let's
say
you,
send
a
young
person
to
the
store
from
the
time
that
they've
been
a
kid
until
the
time
you're
a
teenager,
you
watch
them,
go
on
their
prom
you're
watching
them
grow
up,
watch
them
have
children,
you
know
their
family
member
and
then
that
next
thing
you
know
that
person's
life
is
taken
tragically
to
some
senseless
gun
violence.
G
How
are
the
little
brothers
and
sisters
or
little
nieces
and
nephews
or
cousins,
how
they
processing
that
information
when
they
go
to
school
or
when
the
fan
members
go
to
and
from
their
home?
And
so
you
you,
you
really
hit
something
to
the
core.
G
When
you
talk
about
that
level
of
trauma,
support
and
ingrained
in
the
actual
curriculum
and
services
of
how
we
support
our
young
people,
so
darshan
samantha,
I
just
want
to
thank
both
of
you
for
your
hard
work
and
your
dedication
to
this
work
and
really
been
essential
workers.
G
You
know
on
the
front
line
because-
and
I
say
this
some
people-
and
I
I
don't
want
to
take
this
as
a
cliche,
but
I
honestly
believe
we
don't
have
no
other
precious
resource
here
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
than
our
young
people.
That's
just
how
wholeheartedly
how
I
feel
about
on
the
work
that
all
of
you
doing,
while
we're
taking
time
out
of
our
schedule
to
to
do
this
herring,
and
so
just
want
to.
Thank
you.
B
Yep,
thank
you.
No,
I
thank
you.
Everybody
thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
everybody
for
your
testimony
today,
we'll
look
forward
to
following
up
and
ms
petrovsky
in
particular.
We
may
be
sharing
some
of
your
testimony
with
within
our
internal
ivhs
group,
councilmember
kenyanna
sanchez,
and
I
are
both
on
that
internal
working
group,
and
so,
if
you
want
to
send
over
additional
information
about
how
to
improve
that
particular
program,
I
think
it
would
be
extremely
helpful
right
now
so
and
we'll
will
absolutely
take
your
recommendations
to
heart.
G
You
if
there
are
any
other
questions
and
comments
from
members
of
the
committee,
if
not,
will
the
clerk
please
call
the
next
panel.
G
Yes,
we
can
hear
you
just
state
your
name
entitled
for
the
record
and
I'm
going
to
ask
ron
and
favreto
boya
can
go
first.
Ladies
first,
that's
how
my
my
nana
taught
me,
and
so
ms
boris
states,
your
name
entitled
for
the
record
and
begin
your
testimony.
F
D
Approved
supervisor
I
have
a
non-profit
organization
called
the
black
campaign,
where
we
helped
to
eradicate
the
stigma
against
mental
health
in
the
black
community,
and
I
have
an
outpatient,
private
practice
and
located
in
west
philadelphia,
where
we
provide
individual
counseling
family
counseling
and
couples
counseling.
I
also
sit
on
the
advisory
committee
for
the
office
of
mental
health
and
substance
abuse
services
for
pennsylvania.
D
D
Studies
have
shown
that
the
advanced
part
of
the
brain
is
not
fully
developed
until
the
age
of
25.,
the
prefrontal
cortex,
matures
between
the
ages
of
12
and
20,
where
the
most
sophisticated
of
our
abilities
for
that,
including
our
emotional
control,
impulse,
restraint
and
rational
decision
making,
adolescents
youth,
our
young,
adult
behaviors,
can
be
adolescents
and
youth
young,
adult
behaviors
can
be
rectified.
However,
it
depends
on
our
response
to
their
behavior.
D
D
D
Often
parents
and
caregivers
come
to
therapy
with
an
attitude
of
the
child
being
the
identified
patient
or
the
problem
as
therapists,
we
cannot
fix
the
child
without
fixing
the
family
at
large
as
a
community,
we
see
the
influx
of
violence
and
it
is
not.
It
not
only
impacts
the
person
who
was
involved,
it
impacts
the
entire
family
and,
ultimately,
the
entire
community.
D
Therefore,
the
city
of
philadelphia
should
recruit
more
marriage
and
family
therapists,
because
we
are
trained
to
look
at
the
family
system
and
not
just
the
individual.
The
root
causes
of
trauma
are
not
limited
to
violence.
They
are
often
caused
by
past
and
present.
Discrimination
against
people
of
color
discrimination
against
people
of
color
is
a
tangible
basis
of
minority
distrust
in
the
majority
society.
D
Therefore,
many
people
are
reluctant
to
participate
in
therapy,
especially
with
someone
who
they
view
as
an
oppressor
in
the
black
community.
There's
a
major
barrier
to
seeking
services,
because
we
black
people
were
taught
what
happens
in
this
house
stays
in
this
house
therapy
is
all
about
establishing
a
healthy
relationship
and
should
be
a
model
for
other
healthy
relationships.
D
As
a
clinician,
I've
been
trained
to
think
systemically.
This
approach
in
therapy
and
in
supervision
includes
awareness
of
differences
of
values,
attitudes
and
ways
of
understanding
the
world
and
the
influences
have
in
our
professional
work.
Most
of
my
work
experience
have
provided
me
the
opportunity
to
support
people
of
color
who
live
or
work
in
the
philadelphia
area.
D
Leap,
has
provided
master
level
therapists
with
supervision
and
cover
the
cost
of
licensure
licensure
exams,
and
the
reason
why
I'm
bringing
this
up
is
because,
in
order
to
sit
on
a
panel,
your
your
aetnas,
your
independence,
blue
cross,
you
have
to
have
a
license
and
many
of
black
clinicians
don't
have
licenses,
and
but
they
do
and
they're
eligible
to
work
for
cbh,
which
provides
most
of
the
care
for
the
the
citizens
in
the
city
who
face
some
type
of
trauma.
D
So
in
turn,
therapists
are
required
to
provide
therapy
for
those
in
need.
The
black
brain
campaign
offers
eight
free
therapy
sessions
to
those
living
in
the
city
or
in
pennsylvania
who
need
therapy.
The
increased
demand
is
positive.
However,
there
is
not
enough
culturally
competent
therapists
to
meet
the
needs
of
those
who
request
services.
D
Okay,
there's
been
an
increase
increase
in
homicides
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
since
2020.
each
year.
The
numbers
continue
to
rise,
while
the
black
brain
campaign
welcomes
all
who
are
interested
in
receiving
service,
and
we
appreciate
referrals
from
the
cities
and
other
agencies.
We
would
like
we,
but,
like
many
of
you,
therapists
are
becoming
overwhelmed
and
overworked.
D
D
G
We
can
hear
you,
mr
crawford,
yes
now
we
see
you
and
first
and
foremost
to
mr
crawford
and
farida
the
same
thing
for
samantha
and
darcy,
who
is
just
only
I
thank
you
all
for
one
being
patient
with
us.
I
know
we
went
over
time
last
week
for
this
hearing
and
I
thank
you
for
being
patient
to
come
back
this
week
to
provide
this
critical
and
important
testimony
that
will
help
us,
as
we
address
this
sister's
issue
of
gun,
violence
and,
most
importantly,
trauma
amongst
our
children.
G
I
I'm
ronald
crawford,
I'm
a
therapist
who
works
in
north
philadelphia,
first
of
all
good
afternoon,
councilmember,
jim
and
councilmember
johnson,
thanks
for
inviting
me
today.
I
appreciate
your
interest
in
my
work
and
the
opportunity
to
share
my
ideas
about
reducing
gun
violence
in
philadelphia.
I
I
Unfortunately,
for
the
next
10
years
I
started
self-medicating
my
feelings
of
depression
and
my
experiences
of
trauma
by
using
drugs
and
alcohol
in
1990
I
got
clean
and
I
haven't
used
drugs
or
alcohol
for
the
past
30
years
and
eight
months.
I
say
that
because
I
usually
don't
share
my
personal
story.
A
lot
of
it
has
to
do
what
I
don't
want
to
seem
like
trying
to
pimp
my
trauma,
or
you
know,
get
kudos
for
doing
some
of
the
stuff
that
I
should
have
been
doing
all
my
life.
I
I
say
that,
for
a
few
reasons
reason
I
wanted
to
acknowledge
that
I
share
lived
experiences
with
many
of
the
black
men
that
I
work
with,
and
this
allows
them
to
identify
me
with
this
allows
them
to
identify
with
me
in
ways
that
they
can't
identify
with
therapists
who
just
had
educational
experience.
I
Another
reason
why
I
shared
my
story
was:
I
wanted
to
acknowledge,
like
many
of
those
that
I
work
with.
There
have
been
times
in
my
life
where
I
needed
therapy
and
I
didn't
get
it
possibly
because
I
just
couldn't
find
a
therapist
that
I
could
connect
with
still.
Another
reason
why
I
shared
my
personal
story
was
to
show
how
my
recovery
from
addiction
and
mental
health
challenges
caused
me
to
look
inward
look
at
my
life
and
realize
that
my
approach
to
life
wasn't
working
and
needed
to
be
changed.
I
I
heard
people
speaking
to
poverty
and
you
know
white
supremacy
today,
but
last
week
I
didn't
hear
it
as
much
that
was
problematic
to
me,
because
when
I
hear
people
talking
about
offering
therapeutic
services
to
people
and
don't
mention
blackness,
I'm
afraid
that
they
might
use
a
one-size-fit-all
approach
and
when
that's
done,
black
people
suffer
because
we
have
different
needs,
different
ideas,
different
values
and
different
language.
I
I
My
concerns
about
blackness
being
addressed
was
because
many
of
the
programs
that
my
colleagues
shared
about
last
last
week,
I'm
afraid
that
though
they
may
be
good
ideas
on
paper,
they
might
not
be
effective
for
black
people
and
that's
because
they
might
use
the
same
strategies
and
the
same
kind
of
therapists
that
have
been
woefully
ineffective
to
black
people
for
years.
I
This
is
why
I
introduced
my
expression
of
cultural,
relevant
counseling.
It
helps
black
people
recover
from
the
experiences
of
violence
as
victims
and
perpetrators
of
violence
for
the
past
20
years.
I've
helped
people
change
unproductive
behavior
and
I've
learned
that
before
a
person
changes
a
behavior,
they
have
to
change
their
values
about
the
behavior.
I
Violence
is
a
learned
behavior.
So
before
people
can
unlearn
or
change
this
behavior,
they
have
to
change
their
values
about
it.
Insights
such
as
this
make
me
wonder
why
professional
health
helpers,
counselors
social
workers
and
therapists
aren't
more
involved
in
offering
solutions
to
the
gun
violence
in
philadelphia.
I
I
hope
that
today
and
and
I
I
I
believe
that
we
should
be
on
the
front
line,
because
I
think
that
we
have
insights
that
the
average
person,
however
well-intentioned
just
don't
have.
I
hope
that
with
me
coming
here
today,
I
can
start
the
discussion
about
making
professional
helpers
and
other
therapeutic
concepts
more
prominent
in
our
response
to
gun
violence
on
our
city.
I
I
Many
of
the.
I
think
that
the
uptick
in
homicide
rate
in
philadelphia
and
across
the
country,
was
due
to
the
coronavirus
pandemic,
and
I
want
to
give
you
an
example
of
why
I
feel
that
way.
I
I
believe,
and
I'm
gonna.
Let
me
say
this
that
when
peos
start
seeing
people
face
to
face,
there's
going
to
be
an
increase
in
the
need
for
drug
and
alcohol
services,
because
a
lot
of
people
are
going
to
be
testing
positive
because
they've
been
using
drugs
for
the
past
year
and
because
most
probation
officers
don't
want
to
fill
up
the
prisons
with
people
using
drugs
they're
going
to
send
them
the
treatment
and
treatment.
Centers
are
going
to
be
overwhelmed.
I
People
who
experience
violence
can
either
be
victims
of
it
or
witnesses
of
it,
and
many
of
those
who
experience
violence
in
philadelphia
are
young.
Black
people
therapy
can
help
many
of
these
people
but
they're
resistant
to
getting
therapy
because
the
stigma
associated
with
having
a
mental
health
challenge
or
needing
therapy.
I
I
address
this
resistance
by
using
cultural
competence,
as
I
integrate
their
home
culture
into
my
therapeutic
approach.
Research
has
shown
that,
when
a
client's
home
culture
is
integrated
into
a
therapeutic
intervention
that
increases
the
buy-in,
they
get
more
comfortable,
they
feel
more
relaxed
and
they
have
better
treatment
outcomes.
I
Many
of
the
young
people
who
experience
violence
in
philadelphia
are
members
of
the
hip-hop
culture
as
their
values,
language
and
taste
in
music,
clothes
and
drugs
are
influenced
by
hip-hop.
Integrating
hip-hop
culture
into
therapy
makes
it
culturally
relevant,
and
this
makes
people
of
color
more
willing
to
receive
therapy.
This
willingness
can
increase
retention.
We
can
improve
the
therapeutic
experience
and
therapeutic
outcomes
of
people
of
color
hip-hop
cycle.
I
I
said
outside
of
kensington,
because
a
lot
of
times
we
just
focused
on
people
who
don't
live
in
philadelphia,
but
go
to
kids
until
they
get
lost.
But
what
a
lot
of
people
don't
know
is
that
a
dangerous
trend
in
hip-hop
culture
is
the
fact
that
some
of
the
more
popular
rap
waters,
glamorize
the
use
of
opioids
as
party
drugs
and
what
young
people
don't
know,
is
that
80
of
heroin
users
started
out
by
abusing
perfect
percocets
in
hip
hop
cycle.
I
Education
I
promote
emotional
wellness
and
increase
literacy
and
reading
can
be
a
culturally
relevant
violence
prevention
strategy.
When
you
consider
that
in
jail
culture,
people
who
want
to
stay
out
the
way
they
just
go
to
their
cell
and
read,
if
you
talk
to
people
who
have
been
incarcerated,
you'll
find
out
that
many
people
haven't
read
their
first
book
until
they
went
in
jail.
So
what
I
try
to
do
is
I
try
to
write
books
that
integrate
hip-hop
culture,
sprinkling
some
behavioral
health
information
and
help
people
understand
that
it's
cool
to
get
counseling.
I
It's
cool
to
ask
for
help
and
it's
cool
not
to
get
locked
back
up
since
19
since
2019.
I've
collaborated
with
the
city
of
philadelphia
on
a
few
initiatives
and
those
initiatives
involve
parts
of
hip-hop
cycle
education
and
bibliography.
In
2019
I
was
awarded
a
group
from
the
department
of
behavior
health,
intellectual
disability
services.
Yes,.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
all
this.
C
Okay,
so
yeah,
I
was
just
saying,
councilmember
johnson,
mr
chair,
thank
you
for
your
working
advocacy
in
this
issue
and
your
passion
and
always
willingness
to
share
your
personal
motivation
and
what
drives
you
and
the
work
that
you
do
miss
boyd.
Thank
you
for
your
leadership
in
in
creating
the
black
brain
campaign
and
also
your
clinical
work
in
our
community,
and
actually
mr
crawford
also
provides
some
excellent
testimony.
I
want
to
touch
on
today,
as
the
other
chair
of
this
committee.
C
C
And
can
you
still
hear
me,
okay,
making
sure
all
right
I've
been
dealing
with
some
technicians
today,
but
from
this
board?
I'm
just
curious
from
your
perspective,
considering
some
of
the
lack
of
resources
that
have
come
to
culturally
competent
providers
and
I've
had
you
know,
conversations
with
ashley
kemp
and
the
coalition
and
vast
members
of
that
coalition
over
the
years.
C
Addressing
these
issues
of
violence
now
we're
not
giving
or
providing
those
resources
to
those
organizations
that
really
can
have
a
real
impact,
and
you
talked
about
a
more
holistic
perspective,
not
just
the
youth
but
the
entire
family.
I'm
curious
any
thoughts
you
may
have
in
reference
to
this
budget
process.
You
laid
out
some
suggestions
as
we
start
this
budget
process.
C
With
today's
address
from
the
mayor,
you
know
we'll
receive
about
1.4
billion
dollars
in
revenue
that
will
help
us
with
our
450
million
dollar
deficit,
but
also
provide
additional
dollars
to
do
different
things
and
when
you
look
at
a
homicide
rate
of
499
homicides
last
year,
we're
already
ahead
of
that
this
year.
I'm
just
curious
from
your
perspective.
What
are
some
of
your
additional
thoughts
on
how
those
dials
can
be
spent
within
some
of
those
suggestions
that
you
provided.
D
I
think
it
needs
to
go
directly
to
the
community.
I
I
I
said,
and
I'm
just
thinking
of
I
look
at
some
of
how
the
larger
agencies
get
most
of
the
funding,
but
the
smaller
agencies
are
in
the
community,
doing
the
work
and
not
to
say
that
they're
not
doing
the
work.
D
I
I
notice
a
lot
of
times,
and
this
is
why
I
try
to
refrain
from
this,
that
we
talk
to
the
administrators,
the
directors,
but
we
rarely
talk
to
the
people
who
are
doing
that
actual
work
who
understand,
and
although
I'm
an
administrator,
I
still
have
a
caseload
of
20
clients
that
I
see
a
week.
So
I
still
have
my
my
ear
to
the
street.
I
understand,
what's
going
on,
I'm
still
providing
the
actual
service,
it's
a
difficult
balance,
but
you
can't
just
talk
to
the
administrators.
D
You
have
to
understand
what's
going
on
from
the
people
who
are
doing
the
extra
work.
So
what
I
would
like
to
see
is
some
of
those
and
some
of
those
smaller
agencies.
That's
doing
the
work,
get
some
of
those
fundings.
When
you
look
at
a
phmc
person
versus
a
warranty
smith.
Now
you
have
a
lot
of
culture
when
I
say
culturally
competent,
provide
agency.
It's
the
warranty.
This
is
the
consortiums
we're
in
the
community
providing
the
work,
but
we're
the
ones
who
get
the
less
funded
and-
and
that
becomes
a
problem.
D
When
I
talk
about
life,
when
I
the
the
importance
of
licenses,
how
is
it
that
or
or
why
aren't
we
getting
the
funds
that
we
need
to
to
become
licensed
to
have
proper
supervision?
And-
and
I
I
didn't
have
the
intentions
on
saying
this
today,
but
I'm
gonna
say
it
because
I
feel
like
it
needs
to
be
said.
D
D
I
I
can't
make
the
money
I
make
at
this
agency,
so
I'm
gonna
go
to
the
next
agency,
which
it
directly
impacts
the
client,
because,
if
you,
if
you
can't
stay
with
your
therapist
for
a
certain
amount
of
time,
because
their
transition-
because
they
can't
get
the
money,
they
need
you're,
not
getting
the
proper
services.
So
so
you
have
a
lot
of
transition
in
that
way.
So
so
so
those
are
the
things
when
you
look,
we
have
to
start
looking
at
it
systemically.
D
C
It
yep
yeah
that
you
made
a
very
good
point.
Just
thinking
about
you
know
my
own
path
with
my
son
and
you
know
trying
to
maintain
a
person's
providing
server,
especially
when
we're
talking
behavioral
mental
health
and
having
longevity
is
very
important
because
you
develop
those
relationships,
as
mr
crawford
was
talking
about.
You
know
so
often,
especially
for
black
men
and
as
you
this
boy
said
earlier,
we
don't
we
don't
talk
about
that.
We
keep
that
in
the
house.
We-
and
I
hope
you
say
it
over
and
over
and
over
again.
That's
so
true.
C
We
don't
talk
about
those
things,
that's
not
that
you're
home
and
then,
when
you
look
at
black
men
in
particular,
we
don't
express
that
type
of
emotion,
because
we're
not
supposed
to
be
that
way.
We're
supposed
to
be
a
certain
stereotype
that,
unfortunately,
sometimes
we
buy
in
too
much
and
we're
holding
all
of
that
pain
and
suffering
inside
and
then
a
small.
It's
like
a
thousand
cuts
and
then
one
additional
cut
can
cause
that
explosion,
because
you're
not
having
an
outlet
in
a
release
and
not
talking
someone
and
you
could
be
with
other
black
men.
C
All
dealing
with
the
pain,
the
same
pain
won't
tell
each
other
you're
dealing
with
the
same
pain,
because
we
don't
do
that
in
the
family,
let
alone
afro-american
men,
so
that
type
of
perspective
is
so
important
when
I
think
about
my
own
son
and
then
talking
with
other
people
that
have
children
in
the
autism
spectrum
and
they've
had
multiple
type
of
either
therapeutic
support,
service
people
or
behavioral
support
coordinators.
All
those
acronyms
constantly
changing
over
you
can't
get
a
consistency
of
care.
D
And
think
it's
all
about
a
relationship,
it's
about,
establishing
that
this
relationship
with
your
therapist
should
be
a
model
of
what
your
other
relationship
should
be
like,
because
it's
built
on
honesty,
it's
built
on
mutual
respect
and
trust.
So
if
you
have
time
to
establish
that
you,
you
can
see
a
difference
and
it
takes
time
one
of
the
things
that
I
never
stopped
talking,
one
of
the
things
that
I
realized
they
want
you
to
do
it
in
a
quick
fix.
D
Well
for
47
years,
I've
been
behaving
this
way,
so
you
can't
change
my
behavior
in
12
weeks.
It
just
don't
happen,
so
I
have
clients
that
have
been
on
my
own
for
a
year.
So
we
have
to
look
at
this.
The
first
day
that
you
meet
with
me.
You
want
me
to
give
them
a
diagnosis.
I
barely
even
know
them,
but
you
want
me
to
attach
a
diagnosis
to
them.
That's
not
fair
to
them.
So
and
then
you
want
me
to
rush
my
treatment.
D
Most
black
people
feel
comfortable
with
sharing
the
experience
with
other
people
and
I'm
gonna
put
councilman
johnson
on
the
side
just
for
a
second
because
he
said
something
to
me
one
day
he
said
she
was
cutting
right
then,
when
he
said
she
was
cutting
to
me
because
I'm
in
the
clinical
world,
I'm
thinking,
okay,
she's
really
cutting,
but
he
meant
cutting
up
right.
You
mean,
but
if
you
don't
know,
if
I
didn't
know
what
cutting
up
meant
I'ma
assume
she's
cutting
like
she's
cutting,
do
we
need
to
assess
for
homicide
and
suicide?
D
C
Yeah,
that's
why
I
think
this
this
whole
conversation
is
important,
and
I
want
to
thank
both
councilmember
johnson
councilman,
given
also
miss
boyd
and
mr
crawford,
who
will
also
provide
that
perspective,
because
we
do
have
to
have
this
bolder
perspective
of
how
we're
dealing
with
these
issues.
I
was
listening
to
simon
jones
this
morning
and
he
was
talking
to
a
friend
of
mine,
eric
williams,
who
also
has
a
son
on
autism
spectrum.
But
he
is
doing
this
program
called
shape
up
in
west
philly
and
he's
talking
about.
C
You
know:
they're,
giving
young
men
a
hug
and
how
for
some
they're
like
resistant,
because
they're
just
not
used
to
seeing
that
type
of
interaction,
because
it's
so
foreign
and
then
we
and
just
like
you,
said
people
have
not
had
treatment
or
support
for
decades
and
then
you're
trying
to
do
a
quick
fix.
A
C
That's
and
and
when
you're
about
the
black
brain,
unlike
other
type
of
injuries,
if
you
break
your
arm,
you
break,
you
know,
break
your
leg.
You
can
see
that
injury
can't
see
the
injury
that
may
be
occurring
here
or
occurring
here
that
takes
time
to
develop
the
relationship
to
even
be
exposed
to
what
the
real
injury
is.
G
You
thank
you
councilman
green,
mr
crawford.
You
want
to
finish.
I
Yeah
I
apologize
about
the
technical
gifts,
I'll
just
run
through
this
as
quickly
as
possible.
For
the
sake
of
time,
like
I
said
over
the
past
two
years,
I've
collaborated
with
the
city
of
philadelphia,
department
of
behavioral
health,
intellectual
disability
services
and
the
office
of
violence
prevention
with
a
grant
from
dbh
ids.
I
developed
a
hip-hop
cycle,
ed
workshop
series,
which
was
a
series
of
wellness
groups
in
philadelphia
communities
where
I
engaged
males
of
color
about
their
mental
wellness.
I
The
project
promoted
literacy
through
group
discussion
and
by
partnering,
with
black
owned
bookstores
in
the
community
and
giving
participants
a
total
of
four
thousand
dollar
four
thousand
dollars
worth
of
25
gift
cards
that
can
be
used
to
buy
books
at
uncle
bobby's,
coffees
and
books,
hakeem's
bookstores
and
black
and
nobel,
with
the
grant
from
the
philadelphia
office
of
violence
prevention.
I
developed
the
marriage
project
nash
is
an
acronym
for
mental
health
support
after
stuff
happens,
and
this
project
was
a
series
of
20
free
wellness
groups
that
were
facilitated
in
philadelphia
communities
impacted
by
violence.
I
The
trauma-informed
group
survived
a
safe
space
for
residents
to
share
their
experience
of
violence.
Unfortunately,
the
coronavirus
pandemic
prevented
the
project
from
achieving
its
goals,
but
as
soon
as
the
city
eases
its
social
distancing
guidelines,
I
plan
to
continue
my
partnership
with
the
office
of
violence
prevention
and
resume
the
wellness
groups
that
are
part
of
the
mash
project.
I
I
hope
that,
with
the
support
of
city
council,
I
can
continue
my
collaboration
with
the
city,
and
I
have
a
few
specific
ways
that
you
can
support
me.
I'm
in
the
embassy
stage
of
developing
trauma-informed
drug
and
alcohol
programs
in
norfolk,
west
philadelphia,
and
I
can
use
help
in
the
following
areas.
First
of
all,
I
need
help
securing
a
research
grant
so
that
the
effectiveness
of
hip-hop
psychoand
can
be
tested.
I
There's
a
lot
of
talk
about
evidence-based
practice,
and
all
that
really
is
is
just
an
intervention
has
been
tested
for
its
effectiveness,
and
we
need
to
remember
that
all
evidence-based
programs,
before
they
were
tested
were
just
good
ideas
that
people
thought
could
work
now.
City
council
can
feel
that
this
integration
between
hip-hop
culture
could
be
effective
and
reducing
gun
violence
that'll
go
a
long
way
in
helping
me
getting
this
program
tested.
I
I
also
need
help
getting
into
the
provider
network
of
cbh,
because
there's
someone
spoke
earlier
on.
Cbh
is
the
care
manager
of
medicare
and
you
have
to
get
in
their
network
in
order
to
provide
drug
and
alcohol
treatment
services
for
people
in
communities
that
have
been
impacted
by
violence.
I'm
looking
for
a
place.
I
So,
if
you
know
of
anybody
that
wants
to
lease
a
suite
for
a
small
outpatient
program,
let
me
know
also
need
access
to
the
department
of
corrections,
the
pennsylvania
department
of
probation
and
parole
and
diversionary
programs
like
the
ones
that
phmc
facilitate
called
the
preferred
program:
juvenile
treatment,
court
treatment,
court
and
mental
health
court.
I
One
of
my
goals
was
also
to
have
my
latest
book:
what's
free,
it
ain't
being
booked
on
paper,
a
part
of
the
philadelphia
free
library,
signature
project,
one
book,
one
philadelphia,
this
project
promotes
literacy,
library,
usage
and
civic
dialogue
by
encouraging
city
of
philadelphia
residents
to
get
to
read
a
book
and
come
together
by
discussing
that
book.
I
I
Couldn't
philadelphia,
use
a
book
that
supported
people
getting
counseling
to
address
mass
incarceration
violence
and
opioid
epidemic.
So
if
you
can
do
something,
you
know
to
help
me
push
that
agenda.
That
would
be
great.
That's
all
I
have
for
today,
but
I'm
willing
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have
thanks
for
having
me.
G
I
thank
thank
you,
mr
crawford,
for
taking
time
out
of
your
schedule
and
before
I
call
on
my
colleague,
councilwoman
jamie
gardiere
one.
I
want
to
acknowledge
you
for
your
hard
work
and
your
dedication
around
this
issue,
so
you
gave
us
a
to-do
list,
and
so,
if
you
make
sure
I
get
a
copy
of
it,
that
would
be
very,
very
helpful.
It's
a
couple
things
you
touched
on
is
really
critical
important
one
you
talk
about.
G
We
have
gun
violence
before
we
have
gun
violence.
We
have
the
issue
of
violence
right
and
in
order
to
change
the
violence,
we
have
to
change
what
we
value
right,
and
I
just
think
about
also
you
talked
about
how
this
has
to
be
addressed,
particularly
as
a
black
issue
around
trauma
and
gun
violence
people
just
because
of
the
nuances
on
how
we
value
certain
things.
In
case
in
point
and
most
households
right,
we
were
taught
well,
I'm
47,
so
I
would
do
it.
G
If
you
you
hit
me
somebody
hit
you,
you
hit
him
back
right,
somebody
bigger
than
you
hit
you
you
pick
up
something.
Then
you
bust
them
in
here
right
now,
obviously
being
a
dad,
I'm
I'm
I'm
47
with
two
toddlers,
four
and
six,
and
I
think
a
little
differently,
because
these
days,
if
you
put
your
hands
on
somebody,
you
may
not
come
home
right
because
it's
not
the
days
of
you
know
giving
out
a
fair
one.
G
But
my
point
is
really
getting
to
the
root
causes
of
that
value,
valuing
of
violence
as
a
way
to
resolve
a
dispute,
resolve
a
conflict
and,
most
importantly,
in
some
cases,
how
you
express
yourself
right
because
we
know
hurt
people
hurt
people,
and
so,
if
there's
not
a
gun,
you
may
pick
up
a
knife.
If
it's
not
a
knife,
you
may
decide
to
wild
up
and
hit
somebody
inside
the
head
right
and
we're
talking
about
getting
to
the
root
causes
of
why
some
of
our
young
people
react.
G
The
way
they
act
when
it
comes
to
the
issue
of
trauma,
which
leads
me
to
hip-hop
culture
and
I'm
glad
how
you
intertwine
hip-hop
culture
into
addressing
the
issues
of
trauma,
drug
abuse,
as
well
as
gun,
gun
violence,
because
when
we
look
at
all
the
good
work
that
we're
doing
and
we're
trying
to
do
to
save
our
young
people
we're
competing
against
what
I
call
street
culture
street
life,
and
I
started
my
organization.
G
Peace,
not
guns
as
a
result
of
a
cousin
and
several
friends
being
murdered,
and
I
started
teaching
young
people
comic
resolution,
anger
management,
but
most
importantly,
anti
street
anti-street
message,
because
I
understood
just
upon
my
own
personal
experiences
in
growing
up
and
really
enjoying
the
street
life
right,
just
just
having
a
frank,
transparent
conversation,
because
you
have
to
look
at
all
that
comes
along
with
it
right.
It's
the
masculinity,
the
girls,
the
fast
cars.
G
If
you
have
a
reputation,
maybe
that
person
as
quote-unquote
the
man
right,
but
also
our
young
people,
don't
see
that
the
streets,
don't
love
you
back
right!
That's
the
people
getting
kidnapped,
that's
the
shootings,
that's
the
murders
and
all
that
comes
along
with
it,
but
getting
to
the
root
causes
of
how
our
young
people
process
living
in
that
environment
on
a
day-to-day
basis,
and
so
I
I
don't
know
hopefully
from
the
wider
audience
really
caught
on
that
we
had
both
farina
said
it
as
well.
G
I
guess
y'all
said
culturally
competent
individuals
from
a
from
a
therapeutic
standpoint
addressing
this
issue,
and
so
I
was
going
to
ask
the
same
thing:
councilman
that
green
asses
asked
for
rita
of
you.
How
do
we
integrate
and
how
do
we
make
sure
that
costly,
competent
therapists
are
a
part
of
our
strategy?
When
addressed
this
issue
of
gun
violence?
G
And
you
actually
gave
like
a
bullet
point,
here's
some
things
you
could
do
to
help
me,
but
just
give
me
you
know
in
summary,
and
I've
seen
you
say
this
before
on
social
media
right
like
why
aren't
the
therapists
at
the
table
so
and
it's
the
same
thing
for
rita
is
saying,
but
I
want
to
hear
from
you:
how
do
we
integrate
as
a
city?
G
I
don't
you
talk
about
your
particular
programs,
but
let's
talk
about
on
a
macro
scale,
because
obviously
you
two
as
an
african-american
woman
and
as
an
african-american
man
who
are
both
therapists
on
the
front
line,
I'm
quite
sure,
you're
speaking
for
other
african-american
women
and
men,
who
are
therapists,
who
want
a
front
line,
and
so
from
your
perspective,
how
do
we
integrate
the
family
therapist
on
the
front
line
in
our
fight
against
this
gun,
violence.
I
Well,
and
striving
to
be
culturally
competent,
there's
a
few
things
I
need
to
do.
I
need
to
learn
about
the
culture
that
I'm
working
with
respect
the
culture
and
understand
that
if
there
are
beliefs
that
I
have
that
will
prevent
me
from
helping
this
person,
I
need
to
get
somebody
else
to
help
them
cultural
sensitivity
and
language.
I
was
listening
to
you
guys
talking
about
the
cutting
thing.
I
I
want
to
give
you
a
quick
example
when
I
approach
people
in
north
and
west
philadelphia
to
be
transparent,
I'm
not
dressed
the
way
that
I'm
dressed
today,
because
when
I'm
dressed
this
way,
I
look
like
an
outsider.
I'll,
probably
have
a
hoodie
on
some
tams
some
jeans,
and
I
look
like
the
people
that
I
work
with.
I
talk
like
the
people
I
work
with
and
then,
when
they
get
to
know
me,
you
know
we
share
similar
experiences.
I
went
to
some
of
the
same
schools
and
I
have
lived
experience
and
recovering
from
therapy.
I
So
I'm
just
like
you,
it's
important
to
speak
the
thing,
but
that
can
be
different.
I
was
watching
a
white
therapist
was
having
difficulty
using
the
language.
That's
used
in
black
culture
as
some
as
a
person
who
was
charged
with
killing
someone.
Why
did
you
shoot
him?
She
said
because
he
said
because
we
got
into
an
argument.
He
told
me
he'll
be
back.
She
was
puzzled.
I
So
she
didn't
get
the
language
she
didn't
get
the
language
when
you
say
I'll,
be
back,
I'm
going
to
make
sure
you
don't
leave,
because
I
know
that
that
means
you're
going
to
go
back
and
get
your
gun,
and
if
I'm
here,
when
you
get
back
here,
I'm
I'm
in
for
trouble.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
can
do,
we
can
normalize
therapy
by.
We
have
peer
supports.
We
have
violence,
interrupters
people
who
have
been
in
the
streets
and
who
have
recovered
helping
people
get
out
of
the
streets.
I
We
should
also
use
the
peer
support
or
certified
peer
specialist
model
where
used
therapists,
who
have
gone
through
therapy
themselves,
to
tell
people
hey,
it's
cool
to
be
to
have
depression,
it's
cool
to
ask
for
help,
because
it's
the
last
thing
I
want
to
say
when
you
understand
african-american
culture,
you
understand
that
we
don't
even
know
how
to
function
in
therapy.
We
don't
have
the
skills.
I
I
You
have
to
learn
how
to
express
feelings,
and
you
may
need
to
cry
every
once
in
a
while
all
of
those
skills
we
as
black
men
were
taught
not
to
do
so
when
we
get
to
therapy
and
we're
expected
to
do
those
things
like
the
person
that
spoke
before
me
said
it
takes
a
long
transition
like
there
are
certain
therapeutic
models
like
cbt.
That
gives
you
12
sessions.
They
don't
work
in
the
black
community
because
it
takes
eight
of
those
sessions.
I
G
G
A
The
beauty
of
being
virtual-
I
just
really
wanted
to
thank
the
panel,
this
boyer
and
mr
crawford
for
their
powerful
testimony
and
for
their
work
and
for
their
advocacy
around
culturally
competent
mental
health
services.
A
So,
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
today
and
sharing
what
you
shared,
and
you
know
I
commit
myself
to
being
a
part
of
finding
more
support
for
these
type
of
services
in
our
communities,
especially
at
this
time,
and
I
also
wanted
to
thank
mr
crawford
for
his
work
in
west
philadelphia
and
to
volunteer
to
be
a
part
of
getting
his
to-do
list
done.
I
mean
it's
a
long
to-do
list,
though.
A
G
Well,
thank
you
councilwoman.
We
appreciate
that
yeah
ron
make
sure
you
give
us
a
follow-up,
because
we
want
to
be
supportive
of
your
efforts
again.
You
know
I
ran
into
you
a
couple
times
right
and
I
know
you've
done
some
workshops
also
down
in
south
philadelphia,
vera
wrexha
and
prior
to
the
pandemic,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
mission
that
you
and
farita
are
talking
about
and
that's
really
been
on
the
front
line
because
something
that
farida
talked
about
as
well.
G
G
Basically,
these
are
the
majorly
funded
organizations,
councilman
greene
and
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
know-
and
the
council
president
talked
about
this
the
other
day
during
our
violence,
prevention
and
opportunities
agenda,
press
conference
we
have
to
re-examine
this
should
be
a
paradigm
shift
right
because
re-examine
when
the
major
corporations
are
getting
the
funding
right
but
they're
not
in
the
communities.
They're
not
on
the
front
line
and
a
lot
of
them
get
evaluated
about
doing
numbers
they
may
partner
with
the
black
brain
campaign
and
the
black
brain
campaign
may
be.
G
They
bring
a
hundred
people
out
to
their
event,
but
those
hundred
numbers
will
go
toward
helping
them,
get
a
grant
to
expand
their
budget
right,
and
so
I
know
how
all
of
those
types
of
partnerships
work.
But
we
want
to
recognize
individuals
who
are
culturally
competent,
who
are
on
the
front
lines
from
a
behavioral
health
standpoint
supporting
our
young
people
supporting
our
families,
because
we
recognize
that,
even
though
we've
seen
this
level
of
gun
violence
that
we're
seeing
right
now,
we
all
come
from
neighborhoods,
particularly
if
you're
african-american.
G
You
live
in
neighborhoods
that
have
been
experiencing
trauma
since
slavery
right
and
so,
when
you
talk
about
the
issue
around
police
brutality.
I
remember
you
know
not
only
just
the
rodney
king
issue,
but
I
mean
my
dad
telling
him
how
on
columbia
avenue
was
burned
down,
because
there
was
a
rumor
that
the
cops
had
did
something
for
an
african-american
woman
at
that
particular
time,
and
so
we've
always
dealt
with
some
level
of
trauma.
G
G
Oh
I
mean
at
any
high
school
when
school
was
in,
you
go
outside
and
see
a
bunch
of
young
people,
smoking
marijuana
in
the
front
of
the
school
right,
no
different
than
them
taking
percocets,
right
and
or
zany's,
and
so
you
know,
I
applaud
meek
mill
because
I
remember
you
know.
I
know
you
wrote
a
book
about.
You
know
his
situation,
how
it
relates
to
hip-hop
and
mass
incarceration
and
gun
laws,
and
I
remember
him
talking
about
his
struggles
right
with
being
addicted
to
percocet
and
really
taking
a
stand.
G
Right
and
get
them
to
think
about
things
differently
when
it
comes
to
trauma
processing
their
trauma,
which
we
know
has
a
significant
impact
on.
How
hurt
people
hurt
me
when
it
comes
to
the
significant
issue
of
gun
violence?
And
I
rap
on
this.
You
know
I
was
talking
to
some
young
man
the
other
day
saying.
G
Let's
get
to
the
root
cause
of
why
we
see
these
gun
shooters
right
and
it
was
a
real,
simple
response
and
said
you
know
what,
if
you
kill
somebody
man
or
their
homie
right,
you're,
going
to
see
a
continuous
cycle
of
revenge
because
you
killed
my
man
and
I
got
to
go
back
and
kill
your
man
right
and
that's
continuous
cycle
right.
But
at
what
point
do
we
get
to
to
the
part
where
we
resolve
that
conflict
and
really
is
addressing
the
hurt?
G
Because
it's
a
sense
of
pride
that
you
got
to
retaliate
for
your
homies
life?
Who
was
taken
away
and
that's?
Why
you
see
that
repeated
cycle
and
no
one's
going
to
really
sit
down
and
say
they're
going
to
talk
about
their
hurt
right?
But
I
got
to
also
protect
that
image
and
their
pride
and
do
the
retaliation,
and
so
with
that
being
said.
G
I
thank
the
two
of
you
for
taking
time
out
of
your
schedule
to
adding
to
this
dialogue,
which
was
very,
very
informal
for
informative
and
helpful
and
again
ryan,
make
sure
you
follow
us
with
your
to-do
list
as
well
as
for
read
anyway,
that
we
could
be
supportive
in
the
black
brain
campaign.
I
would
like
for
every
member
city
council
to
know
the
services
that
the
black
campaign
has
to
offer.
G
You
said
eight
free
sessions,
eight
free
sessions
right,
I'm
sure
that
there
are
some
individuals
that
we
all
interact
with
that
can
take
advantage
of
on
those
on
free
services.
Now
I
don't
think
phmc
reached
out
to
us,
councilman
green
and
said,
and
we
provide
free
services
for
young
people
are
experiencing
assist
a
level
of
trauma
or
their
family
members,
and
if
they
did
no
one
has
provided
that
information
to
my
office,
but
farida.
We
like
the
work
that
you're
doing
keep
up
the
good
work
on
ron.
G
We
like
the
work
that
you're
doing
as
well
when,
with
that
being
said,
let
me
make
sure,
is
there
any
other
questions
and
comments?
Councilman,
doug,
green.
C
Yeah,
I'm
just
going
to
make
a
very
quick
comment.
I
was
going
to
add
a
little
levity
when
mr
crawford
talked
about
shoot
your
shot,
that
kind
of
example
of
that
cultural,
dynamic
and
then
started
on
a
hip-hop
perspective,
mr
crawford,
provided
that
and
councilmember
johnson.
Mr
chair,
you
did
the
same
and
it
just
brought
another
memory
that
even
within
our
own
community
that
cultural
difference
can
be
very
interesting
because
I
remember
hearing
the
phrase
sipping
on
sir.
C
I
understand
that's
talking
about
robitussin
as
a
way
of
just
using
self-medication
to
deal
with
pain,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
dynamics
to
this
issue
and
mr
chair,
as
you
were
talking
about
these
large
entities
and
organizations,
you
know
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
city
council
talking
about
the
general
fund,
part
of
the
budget
in
reference
to
real
estate
taxes
and
wage
taxes,
visit
income
receipt
taxes,
but
that's
only
a
little
more
than
maybe
55
of
the
budget.
C
45
percent
of
the
budget
is
coming
from
block
grant
dollars
from
the
state
to
the
city.
To
go
to
the
prime
behavior
of
health,
intellectual
disability,
services
to
cbh
and
the
health
department,
or
because
of
the
grand
dollars
coming
from
the
state.
We
often
talk
about
that
and
have
this
discount
this
conversation
about
how
those
organizations,
having
provided
contracts
with
culturally
competent
organizations
who
are
doing
the
work
in
the
community
and
they
may
be
giving
them
a
small
contract
for
the
larger
dollars
that
come
into
those
large
entities.
C
So
I
just
want
to
close
with
that
and
thank
you
for
both
of
the
panels
and
providing
testimony
and
the
work
that
they
do
in
our
city.
G
Thank
you
very
much
with
that
being
said.
We
appreciate
your
testimony
and
now
we're
going
to
go
into
public
comment.
If
there
aren't
any
questions
and
comments
from
members,
I'm
sorry
councilman
isaiah,
thomas.
A
Real
quick,
councilmember
johnson-
I
I
didn't
plan
on
commenting,
but
I
do
appreciate
this
panel
specifically,
but
I
also
just
wanted
to
make
a
note
for
the
record
and
you
know
I
appreciate
the
work
that
they're
doing,
but
this
is
going
to
be
a
item
that
we're
going
to
have
a
very
close
eye
on
as
it
relates
to
this
budget
cycle.
A
One
of
the
things
that
I've
been
advocating
for
and
talking
about
is
that
we
asked
a
lot
of
the
quote:
unquote
grassroots
organizations
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
to
to
beg
for
money
out
of
small
pots
like
gun,
violence,
prevention,
doctors
or
maybe
through
a
os,
cheat
grant,
or
something
like
that
when
we
have,
you
know
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
that
we're
spending
on
health
and
human
services
as
well
as
public
safety.
So
I
just
you
know
I
am
concerned
about
grassroots
organizations.
A
Who've
been
grasping
for
10
years
right
like
how
long
are
they
going
to
be
like
at
some
point?
They
have
to
graduate
and
mature
out
of
the
grassroots
phase
and
into
a
more
sustainable
space.
But
then,
I'm
also
concerned
about
those
sustainable
organizations
who
deserve
an
opportunity
to
to
to
to
graduate
into
a
more
mature
phase,
as
it
relates
to
the
work
that
they
do
as
a
non-profit.
A
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
on
a
record
that
this
is
actually
going
to
be
one
of
our
focuses
as
it
relates
to
this
budget
season
and
when
we
talked
earlier
during
council
about
pushing
even
further-
and
I
believe,
councilmember
green
kind
of
was
the
first
person
to
spearhead
that
this
is
an
example
of
what
we're
talking
about.
So
again.
Thank
you
to
this
pencil
and
panel
and
thank
you,
mr
chair,
all
right.
G
Thank
you
thank
both
of
you
for
your
testimony.
There
are
no
more
questions.
We
will
now
go
into
public
comment.
H
H
H
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
testify
today.
I
I
want
to
start
off
by
by
suggesting
that
we
approach
the
issue
of
youth
gun
violence
with
some
tangible,
tangible
results
so
or
or
let's
just
get.
As
I
would
say
down
to
the
brass
tag,
I
am
in
support
of
organizations
like
normal
pac.
If
I'm
saying
it
correct,
they
have
the
remedy.
H
So
if
we
look
at
what
nomo
pack
is
doing,
they
are
taking
our
children
from
environments
where
they
may
be
experiencing
trauma.
They
may
not
have
resources
they're,
giving
them
an
environment
where
they're
getting
support
emotionally
and
and
they
have
that
group
dynamic,
but
they
need
resources
from
city
government
so
that
they
can
continue
to
expand
on
that
type
of
support
system,
and
I
I
thought
about
this
closely
thoroughly.
My
apology
and
I
examined
their
organization
closely
because
that's
the
type
of
work
it's
going
to
take
in
order
to
make
an
effective
change.
H
H
There
are
so
services
from
the
government
that
didn't
make
it
to
our
children.
So
we
have
to
take
that
collaborative
approach,
and
I
know
that
as
a
young
man
walking
the
streets
of
south
philadelphia,
I
didn't
have
those
type
of
services
available
to
me.
I
walked
right
into
merrill
lynch
at
18
and
talked
myself
into
a
job,
but
there's
so
many
of
my
friends
and
associates.
They
didn't
have
that.
H
I
listened
to
councilman
johnson
express
his
dilemma
when
he
was
in
university
of
penn
and
he
was
still
dealing
with
the
personal
challenge
of
his
own
identity
and
that's
why
I
I
respect
when
that
that
kind
of
transparency
is
conveyed
through
the
media,
so
people
can
hear
that
we're
all
human
and
we
struggle
so
I'm
I
appreciate
once
again
me
you
guys
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
in
this
hearing,
but
we
want
some
tangible
results.
H
We
need
resources
to
help
these
children
and
I'm
available
to
assist
at
any
time
to
lend
my
support.
Thanks
again,
you
guys
have
a
great
day.
G
Thank
you
very
much
abdul
and
you
keep
up
the
good
work
and
any
questions
and
comments
from
members
of
the
committee.
G
All
right
abdul
listen.
I
know
you
also
have
a
program
that
deals
with
fathers
and
making
sure
fathers
are
in
the
household
of
their
parents.
Can
you
expound
on
that?
Because
that
also
play
a
major
role?
The
family
and
household
the
family
dynamic,
plays
a
role
in
how
young
men
shape
their
identity.
H
Yes,
so
coalition
of
black
fathers
was
a
organization
that
I
created
as
a
direct
direct
result
of
mine
having
been
raising
five
children.
So
the
dynamic
of
me
raising
a
little
brother,
my
dad
died
when
my
little
brother
was
three
that
was
in
96.
So
then
I
ended
up
with
two
step
sons
and
then
subsequently
my
boys
came,
but
what
I
realized
was
I
made
a
difference
in
their
life
in
areas
where
I
had
struggled
so
when
my
dad
was
disconnected
for
me.
H
I
went
through
the
struggle
and
I
decided-
let
me
just
start
doing
this
through
the
barber
shop
and
that's
what
I
started
doing
down.
You
know,
building
men
up
to
realize
that
we
will
all
encounter
certain
challenges,
but
together,
coming
together
with
support
giving
each
other
that
support
system
relying
on
one
another
through
your
experiences,
sharing
those
experiences
and
sharing
resources,
understanding
we
relevant
and
we
make
up
a
big
difference
in
our
kids
lives.
H
So
if
I
can
be
there
for
you,
I
will
recognize
your
child
in
this
community
and
then
I'll
see
if
your
child
is
involved
in
something
or
I
can
take
time
to
bring
your
child
with
me
together,
we
can
have
that
village
approach,
but
we're
the
front
line
of
defense.
So
when
you
remove
the
father
out
of
the
dynamic,
you
do
end
up
with
the
results
of
what
we're
seeing
in
the
street
today.
H
So
you
know,
I
would
like
for
you
to
understand
and
I'll
say
that
as
a
collective,
to
give
support
to
organizations
that
actually
directly
impact
these
situations,
because
that's
why
we're
not
getting
the
results
we
need
and
restorative
justice
has
to
play
a
part
in
this
as
well.
We
can't
just
keep
locking
everybody
up.
We
have
to
find
ways
to
work
together
so
that
the
family
dynamic
can
come
together
and
be
strong.
G
Oh
coherent,
none!
I'm
doing
we
thank
you
for
your
testimony.
Thank
you
for
time
taking
time
out
of
your
schedule
for
speaking,
go
on
public
comment.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
very.
G
Blessings
there
are
no
other
questions
and
comments
from
members
of
the
committee.
I
want
to
take
a
moment
and
thank
my
colleague,
councilwoman
helen
kim
who's,
the
chair
of
the
children
and
youth
committee
for
partnering
with
me
on
his
very,
very
critical
and
important
committee
hearing
and
so
councilwoman
gill.
Do
you
want
to
have
any
final
remarks
before
we
wrap
up.
B
No,
I
you
know.
First
of
all,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
for
your
leadership
on
on
this
whole
issue,
and
also
you
know
the
importance
of
us
having
a
laser
like
focus
right
now
on
the
need
for
trauma
it
it
unless
we
center
it.
B
I
you
know
it's
too
easy
to
let
this
go,
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
you
highlighted
in
your
opening
comments,
or,
as
you
were
responding
to
ms
petrovsky
on
the
first
panel,
is
what
it
feels
like
how
inhumane
it
is
to
have
young
people
talk
about
violence
and
death
in
their
lives.
As
if
it's
you
know,
normalized,
and
you
know,
the
long-term
impact
of
that
on
on
young
people
is,
is
really
really
serious
for
all
of
us.
B
I
mean
it
holds
young
people,
it
can
potentially
hold
young
people
back
from
their
potential
and
that's.
That
is
why
we
are
doing
this
hearing,
because
we've
got
to
center
the
voices
of
people
who
work
directly
with
young
people
with
young
people
themselves,
so
that
we
can
show
the
city
there
is
a
different
way
through
it.
You
don't
suck
it
up
and
bear
it
and
move
on
with
your
life.
B
You
actually
we
need
to
orient
and
reorient
our
city
to
get
people
supports
and
services
to
recognize
that
there
is
an
immediacy
and
the
long
term
and
that
institutions
have
to
do
more.
Our
schools
are
anchors
institutions
for
families
that
may
lose
the
house
in
a
pandemic
or
may
be
upended,
because
a
loved
one
is
gone,
so
our
institutions
have
got
to
do
more
and
I'm
grateful
to
work
with
you,
council,
member
johnson.
B
I
think
we're
going
to
come
up
with
a
really
good
road
map
on
what
this
looks
like,
and
it's
going
to
be
driven
by
the
voices
of
people
that
you've
always
centered,
which
are
the
people
who
are
directly
impacted.
So
thank
you
well.
Thank
you
very.
G
Much
if
there
are
no
other
questions
and
comments
from
members
of
the
committee,
this
concludes
their
hearing
on
youth
gun,
violence
and
trauma.
The
special
committee
on
gun
violence
in
partnership
with
the
children
and
youth
committee.
Thank
you
very
much
everyone
for
your
time
and
thank
you
very
much
for
your
participation.
Take
care.