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The Joint Committees on Finance & Commerce and Economic Development of the Council of the City of Philadelphia held a Public Hearing on Wednesday, September 30, 2020, at 9:30 AM, in a remote manner using Microsoft® Teams to hear testimony on the following items:
200336 Resolution authorizing the Committees on Finance and on Commerce & Economic Development to hold joint hearings regarding Philadelphia’s safe, equitable, and robust economic recovery from the coronavirus pandemic.
A
This
is
the
joint
committees
of
finance
and
commerce
economic
development.
My
name
is
council
member,
derek
green.
I
am
the
chair
of
the
finance
committee
joined
by
my
colleague,
councilmember
mark
squilla,
chair
of
the
commerce
economic
development
committee.
I
understand
that
state
law
currently
requires
that
the
final
announcement
be
made
at
the
beginning
of
every
remote
public
hearing
as
follows.
A
Due
to
the
current
public
health
emergency
city,
council
committees
are
currently
meeting
remotely
we're
using
microsoft
teams
to
make
these
remote
hearings
possible
instructions
for
how
the
public
may
view
and
offer
public
testimony
at
public
hearings
of
council
committees
are
included
in
the
public
hearing,
notices
that
are
published
in
the
daily
news,
inquirer
and
legal
intelligence
here
prior
to
the
hearings
and
can
also
be
found
on
phl
council
dot
com.
I
note
that
the
hour
has
come.
Mr
inuzi,
will
you
please
call
the
roll
take
attendance
members
that
are
in
attendance?
A
Am
president,
thank
you,
mr
inuzi.
Akwama
of
the
committees
is
president.
This
hearing
is
now
called
to
order.
This
is
the
public
hearing
of
the
joint
committee
on
joint
committees
on
finance
and
commerce.
Economic
development
regarding
bill
number:
two:
zero:
zero.
Three,
three
six,
mr
iron
news.
We
please
read
the
title
of
the
resolution.
D
A
Thank
you,
mr
inuzi,
before
we
begin
to
hear
testimony
from
the
witnesses
that
we
have
here
today,
everyone
who
has
been
invited
to
the
meeting
to
testify
should
be
aware
that
a
public
hearing
is
being
recorded
because
of
hearing
is
public
participants
and
viewers
have
no
reasonable
expectation
of
privacy
by
continuing
to
be
in
the
hearing,
you're
consenting
to
be
recorded.
I
also
would
like
to
note
that
councilmember
kendrick
brooks
is
also
present
for
this
morning's
hearing.
Additionally,
prior
to
recognizing
members
for
the
question
of
commerce
they
have
for
witnesses.
A
I
will
know
for
the
record
at
this
time
that
we
will
use
the
chat
feature
available
in
microsoft
teams
to
allow
members
to
signify
that
they
wish
to
be
recognized
in
order
to
comply
with
the
sunshine
act.
The
chat
feature
must
only
be
used
for
this
purpose
before
we
call
the
first
channel
with
my
co-chair
councilman
squilla
like
to
make
any
opening.
A
Hearing
no
comments
from
councilman
vesquela,
I
just
like
to
say
for
the
purpose
of
this
hearing.
You
know
this
is
a
continuation
of
this
conversation
that
we
started
over
the
summer.
A
We
all
know
that
covet
19
has
been
a
global
pandemic,
but
in
addition
to
being
a
global
pandemic,
it
has
been
an
economic
crisis
that
has
devastated
businesses
around
the
nation,
the
commonwealth
and,
in
particular,
the
city
of
philadelphia,
especially
so
many
of
our
small
businesses
on
commercial
corridors
from
you
know
washington
lane
to
washington
avenue,
and
so
this
hearing
is
to
talk
about
some
of
the
initiatives
that
have
been
taken
to
address
those
issues
and
concerns.
A
In
addition,
our
community
development
financial
institutions
have
taken
a
lot
of
work
and
taken
a
lot
of
resources
to
try
to
help
small
businesses,
especially
those
neighborhood
commercial
businesses,
that
we
talked
about
and
we'll
hear
from
organizations
that
have
been
doing
a
yeoman's
job
to
address
and
help
small
businesses
and
then
finally,
we'll
also
hear
from
our
commerce
department,
as
well
as
from
pidc
about
initiatives
that
they've
been
doing.
A
Regarding
this
issue,
I
do
have
a
concern
that,
as
we
go
into
the
fall
months,
when
we
have
less
daylight
how
we
continue
to
grow
our
economy
in
spite
of
covet,
which
has
been
a
just
a
catastrophe
in
so
many
aspects,
and
the
goal
of
this
conversation
is
to
see
what
additional
steps
that
we
can
take
as
a
city
and
continue
to
move
forward
in
all
facets
and
capacities
that
we
can
to
enhance
and
support
our
business
community,
especially
our
neighbor
small
businesses
that
have
been
critically
impacted
by
this
pandemic.
A
Thank
you,
mr
inuzi,
if
both
of
the
winners
can
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
then
proceed
with
your
testimony,.
K
K
Again,
good
morning,
chairman
green
chairman,
squilla
council
members,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
share
with
you
the
impact
of
the
covet
19
relief,
statewide
small
business
assistance
program.
Early
this
spring
17
pennsylvania-based
cdfis,
agreed
to
collaborate
to
help
small
businesses
across
across
pennsylvania,
impacted
by
cobit
19..
K
Through
the
support
of
the
senate
democratic
caucus,
governor
wolf,
the
pennsylvania
cdfi
network
received
225
million
in
june
to
make
grants
from
5
000
to
50
000.
in
order
to
create
a
fair
and
transparent
process.
The
network
focused
on
industries
and
businesses
that
were
most
severely
impacted
by
the
shutdown
those
businesses
included,
restaurants,
barbershops
salons,
daycares
event,
spaces
and
others.
K
Finally,
and
most
importantly,
the
state
agreed
to
allocate
half
or
100
million
dollars
for
historically
disadvantaged
businesses,
which
include
african-american
hispanic
asian
native
american
and
pacific
islanders.
The
cdfis
have
been
around
for
30
years.
Philadelphia
has
the
luxury
of
being
the
home
to
11
cdfis
that
range
from
large,
the
united
bank
of
philadelphia
and
pidc
to
mid-size
venta,
the
enterprise
center
to
small
entrepreneur
works.
Neighborhood
promise
fund,
though
it
is
not
the
first
time
we
have
worked
together.
K
K
Three
of
our
smallest
cdfi
leaders
are
part
of
the
six-member
executive
committee
and
all
of
the
cdfis
opened
their
doors
to
small
businesses
to
help
with
the
submission
of
applications.
The
network
assisted
over
ten
thousand
philadelphia.
Businesses
apply
for
198
million
dollars.
K
K
K
L
And
this
is
dan
bettencourt,
president
of
the
pacifier
network,
and
also
a
community
first
fund.
What
I
want
to
share
with
you
is
we.
L
What
we
all
know
is
that
the
federal
stimulus
dollars
did
not
get
to
black
and
brown
businesses,
and
so
the
pa
cdfi
network
approached
the
governor
and
the
state
legislature,
particularly
with
help
from
senator
hughes,
because
we
knew
that
there
was
four
billion
dollars
in
federal
dollars
sitting
there
not
being
used
for
black
and
brown
businesses
and
just
prior
to
this,
we
know
what
happened
with
ppp
dollars
from
the
sba.
L
They
did
not
get
the
black
and
brown
business,
so
we
were
dismayed
by
what
happened
and
came
together
as
a
coalition
as
jim
described.
So
what
we're
we're
grateful
that
philadelphia
city
council
and
the
mayor
awarded
20
million
dollars
in
the
network
to
do
another
round
in
philadelphia,
another
round
of
about
20
million.
So,
as
jim
said,
the
first
was
20.
The
second
was
20.,
those
were
state
dollars,
and
this
third
round
is
city
cares
dollars
after
those
three
rounds
of
about
60
million
dollars.
L
One
of
our
concerns
is
that
after
those
three
rounds,
there's
going
to
be
about
7
000,
black
and
brown,
and
and
and
main
street
businesses
who
will
not
be
funded,
and
so
even
if
we
want
to
fund
on
a
two-to-one
basis,
which
is
what
a
lot
of
counties
did
nearby,
we
would
have
to
fund
another
70
million,
a
3
500
business
just
to
get
to
some
level
of
par
with
the
other
counties.
L
Some
of
the
counties
around
philadelphia
have
used
up
to
a
third
of
their
dollars
according
to
a
third
specifically
for
businesses
in
their
community.
Berks
county,
for
example,
got
a
40
million
allocation
and
they
provided
about
10
million
dollars
to
small
business
york.
County
got
about
40,
they
provided
15
million.
A
lancaster
county
got
a
hundred
million,
they
provide
35
million
to
small
business,
and
it
goes
on
like
that
across
the
state,
jim
and
I
are
working
with
allegheny
county
to
ask
them
to
also
put
cares
dollars
into
small
business.
L
So
again,
we're
here
today
to
thank
you.
We
appreciate
the
partnership,
we're
gonna,
it's
gonna,
be
significant
amount
of
support.
We're
gonna
help
this
next
level
of
business
owners
about
a
thousand
of
them.
We
thank
you
for
accepting
the
program
that
we
have
put
together.
L
You
know
we
have,
as
we
said,
160
million
sitting
there
and
we're
just
they're
all
ranked
and
we're
just
going
to
fund
the
next
tranche,
and
you
know
we
also
invite
you,
if
there's
philanthropy
out
there
dollars
beyond
care
that
you're
aware
of
please
work
with
us.
You
know
we
know
that
there
may
be
other
dollars,
but
in
the
end
we
ultimately
just
want
to.
Thank
you.
L
We
want
to
thank
councilman,
green
and
the
other
council
members
on
here
and
the
mayor
for
the
20
million,
and
we
encourage
you
to
consider
other
cares,
money
and
other
sources
to
try
to
fund
that
160
million
and
7
000
black
and
brown
businesses
across
philadelphia.
We
thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you,
jim
and
dan,
and
I
know
you
have
another
appointment
at
10
15.
So
I
want
to
ask
my
colleagues
to
be
somewhat
brief
and
I
will
try
to
do
the
same,
but
I
just
want
to
give
a
little
perspective
on
the
work
that
both
of
you
have
been
doing
from
the
very
beginning
at
the
beginning
of
cover
19.
A
You
know
this
body
was
very
creative
and
during
that
85
million
dollar
transformation,
and
that
was
very
supportive
and
out
of
that,
85
million
dollars
were
able
to
provide
as
a
city
about
7
million
in
general
fund
dollars
to
the
city's
phl,
coven
grant
and
loan
fund.
And
you
know
this
is
one
of
the
first
initiatives
like
this
in
the
country.
This
actually
predated
the
payroll
protection
program,
and
I
know
both
of
you
were
involved
in
that
initiative.
A
Talking
with
both
our
commerce
director
silva
gay
howard,
as
well
as
ann
bovan,
nevins
from
pidc,
and
then
you
had
the
state
program
and
then
that
led
to
the
initiative
that
you
just
talked
about,
and
I
think,
through
your
continued
advocacy
through
each
step
of
those
programs,
that's
allowed
us
to
get
to
this
point.
A
My
question
to
both
of
you-
and
you
also
made
advocacy
to
congressman
dwight
evans
because
initially,
even
with
the
payroll
protection
program,
cdfis
like
west
philadelphia,
financial
services,
institution
and
finance
were
not
really
part
of
that
initiative
and
you
provide
advocacy
on
that
regard.
The
federal
level,
but,
as
you
all
know,
in
that
initial
program,
that
the
city
stood
up,
we
had
about
7
200
applications
for
assistance
that
reflected
about
146
million
dollars.
A
And
although
the
city
put
in
seven
and
some
of
the
people
I
talked
about
earlier
were
able
to
raise
another
number
of
dollars,
I
think
we
eventually
got
to
close
to
14
million
dollars.
That's
a
significant
difference
of
14
million
and
146
million
dollars
in
requests.
So
can
you
give
some
perspective
on
type
of
businesses
that
will
benefit
from
this
new
tranche
of
20
million
dollars?
K
Sure
I
can
start
with
the
majority
of
the
applications
that
came
in
were
from
restaurants
and
personal
care
businesses.
So
that's
your
barber
shop,
your
salon
owners,
your
naileries
and
they
represented
almost
50
of
our
applications.
So
those
are
your
corridor-based
businesses,
and
so
those
are
the
ones
that
probably
are
going
to
get
the
majority
of
these
dollars.
K
That
being
said,
there
are
all
other
industries
event
planners
day,
cares
and
and
other
types
of
indus
industries
that
will
benefit
from
the
grant
dollars
that
you
have
awarded
us.
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
some
of
the
challenges
of
all
of
these
businesses
and
in
particular,
the
the
applicants
that
were
smaller
in
that
50
000
revenue
range,
is
technology.
K
Most
of
the
problems
that
we
had
with
applications
was
people
not
being
able
to
submit
the
documents
that
were
necessary,
and
that
was
primarily
because
they
didn't
either
have
a
tablet
or
a
computer
or
a
scanning
machine
or
a
copier,
and
if
they
did
have
a
scanning
machine
or
a
copier,
they
weren't
able
to
scan
more
than
one
piece
of
paper
at
a
time
and
if
you're
trying
to
copy
your
tax
returns
and
you've
got
12
or
13
pages,
you
just
can't
do
it
and,
unfortunately,
it
created
additional
time
now.
The
benefit
to
that
is.
K
K
A
And
so
just
follow
up
on
that
and
if
any
council
colleagues
have
questions,
please
indicate
in
the
chat
feature.
I
see
council,
member,
councilmember
jones
and
so
I'll
ask
a
question
before
we
come
into
council
member
jones.
I
see
also
council,
member
gautier
and
councilmember
maria
keana
sanchez
and
so
you're
working
with
various
counties
around
the
commonwealth.
You
mentioned
allegheny
county
berks
county.
I
know
montgomery
county
recently
allocated
10
million
dollars
for
small
businesses
in
their
county.
A
I'm
using
their
federal
cares
dollars,
so
the
administration
put
in
20
million
dollars
to
augment
this
program.
So
I
think
you
said
a
number.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you
state
for
the
record.
What
what's
the
amount
field
office
should
put
in
to
be
cooperate
with
other
counties
in
the
commonwealth
in
reference
to
the
amount
of
care
styles
they
put
in
to
help
small
businesses.
L
What
what
I've
seen
it's
a
range
of
of
one
to
one
and
two
to
one?
What
I
mean
by
that
is
that
in,
for
example,
in
your
county,
we
just
closed
around
about
16,
17
million
small
in
dollars
and
small
business
applied
and
they
allocated
about
12..
So
that's
almost
a
one-to-one
in
in
berks
county.
It's
a
similar
story.
We
had
about
15,
I'm
sorry.
L
It
was
about
seven
or
eight
million
and
they
allocated
six
million,
and
so
what
we
thought,
a
good
rule
of
thumb
is
to
try
to
fund
at
least
a
two
to
one,
and
so
since
we're
gonna
have
after
those
two
rounds,
we're
gonna
have
160
million
left.
You
know
a
good
rule
of
thumb
would
maybe
to
try
to
do
70
to
80
million
dollars.
A
Thank
you.
Dan
will
now
go
to
the
councilman
gautier.
F
Thank
you
both
for
your
testimony.
Okay,.
M
J
All
right,
listen,
first
and
foremost,
I
want
to
thank
you
and
your
team.
I'm
going
to
take
a
step
back
to
the
night
of
the
unfortunate
sacking
of
the
mall
in
at
52nd
and
jefferson,
which
you
are
a
integral
part
of,
but
I
remember
talking
to
you
that
night
and
how
steadfast
you
were
about
holding
your
ground,
standing
your
ground
and
fighting
for
those
businesses
there.
J
That
was
echoed
aftermath
with
all
of
the
relief
that
you
were
able
to
give
those
individual
businesses
and
now
reporting
on
the
relief
efforts
for
financial
assistance
to
businesses.
That
often
don't
come
with
the
big
eight
accounting
firms,
providing
them
technical
assistance.
So
for
you
to
package
those
kinds
of
loans
for
businesses
that
have
to
balance
walking
and
chewing
gum,
building
airplanes,
while
they
fly
kudos
to
you
and
thank
you
for
making
sure
that
those
dollars
went
to
the
appropriate
parties.
J
I
also
want
to
say
that
in
this
regard,
but
for
you,
many
of
my
members
represent
commercial
corridors
that
have
not
reopened
businesses
that
are
still
closed
and
many
reasons
are
cited
and
some
of
the
technical
assistance
that
you
provide.
Can
that
be
expanded?
J
One
of
the
things
that
we
found
out
was
a
lot
of
small
businesses
were
underinsured
that
they
had
the
bare
minimum
amount
of
insurance
in
order
to
say
that
they
had
insurance
to
meet
loan
covenants,
to
be
able
to
deal
with
slip
and
falls,
but
nothing
that
dealt
with
business
interruption
and
for
things
like
pandemics
and
looting.
So
is
there
a
component
of
what
you're
doing
that
can
be
enhanced
to
provide
more
of
that
technical
assistance
so
that
more
businesses
are
eligible?
K
Yes,
councilman
and
thank
you
for
for
your
recognition,
appreciate
it
there's.
Definitely
things
that
you
can
do.
I
I
think
the
technical
assistance
is
really
important.
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
you
mentioned
as
it
relates
to
the
insurance
we
we
have
business
owners
who
have
identified
an
asset,
essentially
those
businesses
that
they
have
and
those
assets
that
they
now
have.
They
want
to
grow
those
assets,
so
they
really
spend
a
lot
of
time
figuring
out
how
they
can
grow
the
asset
first,
identifying
it
and
then
growing
it.
K
I
think
we
need
to
also
spend
time
on
how
we
protect
those
assets,
and
we
just
haven't
done
a
whole
lot
of
that
in
the
past,
so
that
would
include
insurance
that
would
include
making
sure
that
we
have
the
right
relationships
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
other
things
that
we
can
do,
but
the
technical
assistance
in
teaching
that
is
what's
really
going
to
be
important
and,
quite
frankly,
what
it
comes
down
to
is
dollars.
K
A
lot
of
us
do,
I
know
our
organization
does
a
lot
of
it
for
free,
but
we
could
do
more
if
we
had
some
additional
resources.
J
And
I
want
to
recognize
my
colleagues,
mr
chairman,
who,
on
the
day
of
and
the
day
after
some
of
that
looting,
we're
out
there
on
the
front
line,
kathy
gilmore,
richardson.
J
Wanted
wanted
to
go
out
me
and
her
by
ourselves
and
that
wasn't
gonna
happen.
You
mentioned
that
I
was
respecting
your
elders.
She
did
not
respect
her
elders.
Wanted
me
to
go
with
her
along
with
a
member
guardian.
They
their
fireballs.
J
Listen,
I'm
not!
You
know
we.
We
experienced
a
lot
that
17
two
hours
worth
of
uncertainty,
but
I
have
to
tip
my
hat
to
my
colleagues
who
were
fearless
in
joining
you
out
there
on
the
front
line
and
so
we're
in
this
together.
I'm
glad
the
chairman
has
had
this
hearing
and
let
us
know
what
we
can
do
to
help.
A
Chairman,
thank
you
councilmember
jones,
and
I
will
recall
that
councilmember,
gautier
and
councilman,
the
catherine
gilmore
richton,
who's
wearing
blue
and
she
was
joined
by
her
members
of
zeta
5,
beta
and
phi
beta
sigma.
So
I
will
go
mob
them
for
their
advocacy.
That
day.
Next
we
have
councilman
gaudier.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
want
to
thank
you
both
for
your
testimony
and
for
the
work
that
you're
doing.
I
was
so
excited
to
know
that
we
were
embarking
on
this
program
and
that
we
would
have
trusted
partners
like
cdfis,
who
really
have
the
credibility
and
the
knowledge
to
reach
deep
into
our
neighborhoods
to
get
our
small
businesses
the
the
resources
that
they
that
they
deserve
during
this
time.
F
So
thank
you
so
much
one
thing
that
troubled
me
when
I
first
heard
about
this
program
were
some
of
the
requirements
around
or
the
restrictions
around
serving
business
owners
who
have
certain
criminal
backgrounds.
F
You
know
there.
There
are
many
people
for
whom
entrepreneurship
is
one
of
the
only
paths
that
they
can
take
given
their
backgrounds,
and
so
it
felt
to
me
that
we
might
be
blocking
a
lot
of
folks
out
in
our
who
are
business
owners
in
our
neighborhoods
who
have
been
through
the
criminal
justice
system.
And
so
I
wanted
you
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
that's
going.
F
K
Sure
we
started
out
utilizing
the
sba
policy
for
criminal
background
checks
and
one
of
the
benefits
of
of
being
in
a
great
community
with
a
huge
network
and
a
good
relationship
with
the
commerce
department
and
others
is
that
we
were
contacted
by
the
commerce
department
and
representatives
from
I
can't
remember
the
legal
entity
that
they
have,
but
they
they
actually
sued
the
sba
to
reduce
the
criminal,
the
time
frame
and
the
felonies
that
were
would
be
ineligible
to
participate.
K
If
you
had
a
felony,
a
financial
felony
for
five
years,
you
would
not
be
able
to
participate,
and
if
we
had
additional,
if
you
had
other
crimes,
it
was.
I
believe,
three
years.
But
after
going
through
these
conversations
with
this
legal
group
and
there's
a
public
legal
group
or
a
non-profit
legal
group
that
that
handles
this
stuff-
and
I
just
can't
remember
the
name
of
them
at
the
moment.
K
But
they
helped
us
come
up
with
a
policy
that
reflected
the
new
sba
policy
and
that
reduced
it
to
one
year
of
financial
crimes,
and
so,
if
you,
if
you
were,
if
you
were
on
parole,
you
were
still
eligible
for
the
program.
If
you
were
on
probation,
you
were
is
still
eligible
for
the
program,
so
we
don't
have
the
numbers
as
of
right
now,
because
it,
even
though
it
was
a
question
of
have
you
ever
had
that
we
just
haven't
pulled
that
data.
K
F
Thank
you,
I'm
glad
to
know
that
there
were
changes
in
that
area.
That
lessens
some
of
those
restrictions,
and
I
do
think
it's
something
that
that
we
should
keep
an
eye
on
as
we
move
forward
just
given
the
reality
of.
What's
going
on
in
our
in
our
neighborhoods.
E
N
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
I
won't
prolong
it.
I
want
to
respect
and
honor
the
clock
and
the
time
that
our
partners
have
given
us.
I
you
know,
I
just
want
to
echo
some
of
the
comments
and
some
of
the
sentiments
you
know.
I've
always
been
a
fan
of
us
figuring
out
how
to
better
collaborate
coordinate
with
our
cd
files,
and
I
want
to
thank
sylvie
galler
at
the
commerce
department.
You
know
when
we
did
our
first
initiative.
I
was
a
strong
advocate
that
we
figure
out
a
way
of
doing
this.
N
I
want
us
to
begin
to
look
at
lessons
learned
about
who
qualified,
who
didn't
and
really
helped
inform
what
a
technical
assistance
program
would
look
like,
particularly
for
our
commercial
carters.
You
know.
Just
last
night
I
was
having
a
conversation
with
an
independent
contractor
he's
a
barber.
We
talked
a
little
bit
around
the
need
for
them
to
understand
the
filings
of
their
1099s
independent
contractors.
All
of
the
things
that
some
of
his
partners
and
people
in
the
business
he
said
to
me.
N
He
knew
a
dozen
barbers
who
left
and
are
like
working
for
fedex
or
amazon.
You
know
they
just
didn't
know
how
to
navigate
and
because
you
know
we
made
them
just
close
up
shops
so
really
want
to
figure
out
how
this
crisis
creates
an
opportunity
for
us
to
better
prepare
technical
assistance
for
our
commercial
carter
workers,
how
they
can
provide
technical
assistance
and
really
do
a
campaign
with
our
community
accountants.
You
know
this
is
my
biggest
biggest
struggle
in
the
community,
I'm
I'm
facing
this
now
with
the
bodegas
and
others.
N
You
know
this
need
to
hide
revenue
and
and
really
not
project
out
their
income
caused
them
not
to
be
able
to
show
where
they
had
losses
if
they
legitimately
have
losses,
even
though
many
of
them
did
not
close
up
during
this
during
this
period.
So
you
know
as
part
of
this-
and
I
you
know
thank
you,
mr
chair,
for
for
doing
this.
As
part
of
this,
let
us
not
come
out,
you
know,
let
us
not
waste
this
opportunity
to
come
out
with
some
really
clear-cut.
These
are
the
people
we
weren't
able
to
help.
N
This
is
the
reason
why
how
do
we
realign
our
programming
to
really
hone
in
on
those
gaps
right
and
then
use
our
partners
in
the
chambers,
the
ethnic
chambers
and
others
to
meet
that
need,
and
I'm
going
to
be
really
looking
for
that
for
next
year,
as
as
the
commerce
department,
as
we
pivot
in
some
of
the
commercial
carter
work
pivots,
I
wanted
to
be
really
aligned
with
the
experience
you
all
have
a
list.
People
applied,
they
didn't
defund
it.
We
know
who
they
are.
N
We
know
where
they
are
and
even
though
we
weren't
able
to
help
them
now,
it
doesn't
mean
we
can't
go
back
to
them
and
provide
that
kind
of
technical
assistance
for
the
future.
So
I
want
to
honor
the
clock
to
the
gentleman
I
really
want
to.
Thank
you.
N
I
think
the
the
work-
and
you
know
your
fresh
eyes
on
this
and
the
fact
that
you
knew
the
people
on
the
ground
really
added
to
its
success
and
it's
greatly
appreciated
and
I
hope
in
the
future,
we
value
what
you
bring
through
your
michael
and
through
all
of
you,
all
your
things
in
the
rebuilding
of
philadelphia
and
building
a
more
equitable
philadelphia.
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
I
look
forward
to
that
work.
N
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
sanchez
councilman
jones.
If
you
could
put
yourself
on
the
mute,
I
know.
Councilmember
gilmore
richardson
has
a
quick
point
of
clarification.
Okay,.
J
G
Mr
burnett
and
mr
vintercourt,
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
all
so
much
for
the
work
that
you've
been
doing.
It's
been
a
pleasure
to
work
with
you
on
the
ground
and
for
you
helping
the
small
businesses
that
we
have
connected
you
with
through
the
programs
we've
had
via
zoom
the
many
zoom
meetings
we've
had.
So.
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
connect
a
quick
point
of
clarification.
G
If
philadelphia
county
were
to
be
on
par
with
the
resource
allocation
happening
in
other
counties
across
the
commonwealth,
we
should
be
allocating
an
additional
50
to
60
million.
Is
that
correct?
I
just
wanted
to
get
that
a
point
on
the
record.
L
G
Okay,
okay,
I
just
wanted
that
point
of
clarification
to
be
on
the
record
and
also
echo
the
sentiments
of
my
colleagues
relative
to
providing
that
technical
assistance
to
all
of
our
businesses.
I've
heard
from
a
number
of
hair
salons
in
my
community
who
talked
about
needing
that
technical
assistance
throughout
this
process
and
we
were
able
to
help
some
of
them
right.
You
know,
particularly
through
the
the
city
process,
but
we
want
to
ensure
that
we
can
help
as
many
people
as
possible.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
work
and
thank
you,
mr
chair.
A
Thank
you,
councilman
gilbert
richardson.
I
would
thank
my
colleagues
for
their
questions
and
also
thank
you,
both
mr
barnett,
mr
bancord,
for
the
work
you're
doing
and
the
continued
advocacy
that
we
need
to
provide.
A
But
we
know
we
have
a
lot
of
businesses,
even
if
we
were
able
to
provide
another
60
million
dollars
that
still
will
not
get
the
support
they
need.
So
thank
you
for
all
the
work
you've
been
doing
on
behalf
of
the
businesses
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
and
throughout
the
commonwealth.
Thank
you
with
that,
mr
inuzi.
Can
you
call
the
next
panel.
A
Thank
you,
mr
inuzi.
If
both
witnesses
can
state
their
name
for
the
record
and
then
proceed
with
their
testimony,.
O
Okay,
great
william
carter,
vice
president
of
local
government
affairs
for
the
chamber
of
commerce
for
greater
philadelphia.
B
Good
morning,
mr
chairman
and
council
members,
claire
greenwood
executive
director
of
the
chamber's
ceo
council
for
growth.
O
So
I
will
go
ahead
and
start
good
morning:
council
persons,
green
squilla
and
members
of
the
joint
committees
on
commerce
and
economic
development
and
finance.
I'm
william
carter,
vice
president
of
local
government
affairs
for
the
chamber
of
commerce
for
greater
philadelphia,
I'm
joined
by
my
colleague,
who
you
just
heard,
claire
morazzo
greenwood,
who
is
director
of
the
chamber,
ceo
council,
for
growth
and
lead
coordinator
of
the
philadelphia
regional,
recharge
and
recovery
task
force.
As
we're
all
aware,
the
global
pandemic
impacted
the
lives
and
livelihoods
of
individuals
across
the
world
nation
and
region.
O
O
City's
councils
continue
to
work
in
this
regard
is
invaluable
and
hearings
such
as
this
not
only
help
to
inform
our
citizenry
about
recovery
efforts,
but
also
help
to
serve
to
ensure
the
cohesiveness.
In
all
efforts-
and
I
know
you
guys-
are
busy-
I
follow
you
on
social
media
you're,
not
only
on
zoom
but
you're
on
zoom.
O
You
know
you're
back
and
forth
across
the
city,
helping
those
residents
and
businesses
and
people
in
places
in
need-
and
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
personally-
that
is
much
appreciated
as
you're
also
aware,
the
growth
and
productivity
and
valuability
of
our
business
and
civic
communities,
particularly
our
small
and
minority-owned
enterprises,
have
been
greatly
affected
over
the
past
several
months
in
an
effort
to
reverse
these
effects:
the
chamber
of
commerce
for
greater
philadelphia
and
its
regional
council.
B
Insights
good
morning
again,
as
I
introduced
myself,
claire
greenwood,
maybe
to
add
to
will's
comments
what
emerged
from
this
stakeholder
process
of
about
a
hundred
and
sixty
folks
over
a
five
to
six
week
period
was
a
clear
vision
for
who
we
want
to
be
as
a
community
that
really,
I
think,
sort
of
looked
like
a
set
of
five
aspirations
with
the
potential
to
support
our
region's
recovery,
but
also
differentiate
ourselves.
B
I
believe
I
heard
chairman
green
earlier
mentioned
the
idea
that
we
wanted
to
think
about
both
where
we
should
be
on
the
defense
and
and
to
to
defend
our
core
and
to
be
focused
on
our
community,
but
also
where
we
could
be
on
the
offense
and
to
potentially
take
opportunity
that
we
may
not
recognize
in
a
different
environment.
B
This
this
set
of
aspirations
sort
of
imagines,
a
philadelphia
region,
that's
a
new
model,
a
national
model
for
how
to
learn,
apprentice
and
work
in
the
jobs
of
the
future,
a
place
known
for
investing
in
and
growing,
small,
local
and
black
and
brown
businesses,
a
digital
community
with
increased
digital
literacy
technology
and
internet
use.
B
I
did
hear
that
in
the
previous
panel's
testimony,
how
critical
that
is
for
businesses
in
in
our
community
and
certainly
in
the
corridor
neighborhood
corridors,
the
healthiest
and
most
livable
community
in
the
northeast
and
clearly
the
public
health
crisis
is,
is
front
and
center
right
now
and
and
is
a
critical
element
to
as
well
said
getting
to
a
point
of
the
elements
of
a
recovery
strategy
and
the
last
and
just
as
a
a
point
of
focus.
B
But
the
core
to
achieving
these
aspirations
are
a
set
of
short-term
actions
and
our
ability
to
focus
right
now
and
and
really
work
collaboratively
across
government
private
sector
industries
to
collectively
work
towards
a
handful
of
things
and
see
progress
towards
our
short-term
goals.
So
we,
I
think,
we'll
mentioned
released
about
a
week
and
a
half
ago,
that
sort
of
first
phase
work,
this
first
six
items
of
focus
in
the
short
term
action
and
they're
really
around
three
concepts.
B
In
prioritizing
regional
health
and
safety
through
coordinated
and
equitable
testing
contact
tracing
the
communication
around
the
public
health
crisis
and
certainly
operating
standards,
the
second
area
is
really
focused
on
creating
opportunities
for
displaced
workers
and
being
intentional
to
commit
to
diversifying
the
workforce,
and
the
last
is
really
how
we
think
about
in
the
short
term,
getting
on
a
path
to
bolster
support
for
black
brown
and
local
businesses.
O
Certainly,
the
conversations
that
we
have
been
having,
since
the
announcement
have
really
focused
on
our
inclusive
growth
strategy,
working
with
cohorts
to
upskill,
individuals
in
every
a
possible
new
economy
job
across
across
the
spectrum
and
for
current
jobs
that
haven't
gone
away.
O
Obviously,
we
know
that
a
lot
of
individuals
don't
go
to
four-year
colleges
or
don't
go
on
to
any
type
of
graduate
degree,
but
have
skills
and
have
the
ability
to
to
work
and
and
maintain
a
family
sustained
wage,
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
more
intentioned
on
us.
I
need
to
say
more
intentional
about
doing
that.
Prior
to
my
joining
the
chamber.
O
The
roadmap
for
growth
was
in
effect,
and
most
of
you
guys
are
familiar
with
that,
which
was
about
making
sure
that
our,
I
guess
the
narrative
right
now
of
a
tale
of
two
cities
is,
is
evaporated
and
we
are
more
intentional
about
being
in
neighborhoods
and
supporting
our
entrepreneurs
in
those
neighborhoods
in
the
long
commercial
corridors,
and
that
is
what
the
chamber
is
walking
in
terms
of
our
equity
pledge,
and
it's
important
that
we
are
walking
that
talk.
O
So
we
are
providing
for
more
resources
and
being
more
intentional
about
helping
the
upskill
individuals
into
the
current
jobs
and
for
the
current
economy
and
we're
also
putting
more
supports
behind
minority
small
black
and
brown
businesses,
which
it
was
mentioned
earlier,
some
of
the
in
problems
that
they
had
a
lot
of
businesses,
not
just
black
and
brown,
but
small
businesses
had
in
getting
on
getting
the
relief
that
they
needed
for
recovery
from
the
federal
and
state
government
and
local
government
was
due
to
lack
of
infrastructure
and
technical
services.
O
And
so
we
are
being
even
more
intentional
about
helping
provide
those
supports
in
those
areas
to
make
sure
that
they're
shored
up,
and
so
if
there
is
a
future
emergency
that
they're
they're
straight.
But
if
there's
not
a
future
emergency
they're,
more
more
foundational
to
growth.
And
so
that's
what
we
have
been
working
on
and
we'll
continue
to
work
with.
Council
members.
Some
of
the
chaos
members
on
this
call
and
and
other
stakeholders
throughout
the
city.
So
with
that
we'll
take
questions.
A
All
right,
thank
you
both
for
your
testimony.
I
wanted
to
touch
base
on
some
of
the
aspirations
that
he
talked
about.
A
In
particular,
I
know
you
at
the
chamber
and
the
council
for
growth
have
been
working
with
mckinsey,
which
is
a
large
international
management,
consulting
firm
and
I
think,
in
the
very
beginning
of
this
pandemic,
they
defined
the
pandemic
from
a
five-stage
perspective,
the
first
being
resolved,
resilience,
return,
reimagination
and
reform,
and
when
I
think
about
that
five-stage
perspective,
it
reminds
me
of
someone
on
a
day
like
today,
we
did
not
have
covet,
who
was
walking
down
broad
street
at
12
o'clock
and
rush
into
a
meeting,
and
they
missed
something
and
they
tripped
and
fell
and
all
their
papers
scattered
all
over
broad
street,
and
so
for
the
next
few
moments,
they're
trying
to
figure
out
what
just
happened
and
that
kind
of
reminds
me
of
what
happened
with
cobit.
A
It
just
came
out
of
nowhere,
and
then
we
just
had
to
figure
out
what
is
going
on
and
that's
kind
of
the
resolve
phase.
The
next
phase
is
kind
of
resilience
where
you're
now
like
realized.
Okay,
I
tripped
and
fell
I'm
on
broad
street,
I'm
okay
and
there's
no
cars
coming
around.
Let
me
try
to
find
my
papers
and
let
me
get
that
stuff
together.
A
Like
microsoft
teams
or
zoom
or
webex,
and
in
your
recharge
recovery
task
force,
you
have
these
aspirations
and
one
aspiration:
you're
talking
about
becoming
a
national
model
for
as
a
place,
filled
out
being
a
place
for
small
black
and
brown
and
locally
owned
businesses
to
grow
and
thrive,
and
that
goes
back
to
what
miss
greenwood
talked
about
being
on
the
offense
and
what
I
talked
about
in
my
initial
conversation.
So
can
you
give
a
little
detail
on
that
aspiration?
A
How
are
we
going
to
have
chamber
members
how
to
grow
small,
black
and
brown
and
locally
owned
businesses
and
allow
the
city
of
philadelphia
to
become
a
national
model
for
this
type
of
investment
that
can
really
put
philadelphia
on
the
offense
and
then
also
your
other
point
in
aspiration
the
reference
to
workforce?
We
know
we
have
a
26
percent
poverty
rate.
We
have
a
number
of
people
that
need
jobs
and
we
have
a
number
of
jobs
that
are
available,
but
they
don't
have
the
resources
to
get
the
skills
to
access
those
jobs.
A
So
when
you
talk
about
being
a
national
model
reference
to
workforce,
how
are
you
going
to
do
those
things
and
give
us
some
perspective?
What
are
your
action
steps
on
the
workforce
perspective,
as
well
as
the
making
philadelphia
a
place?
That's
going
to
be
known
for
growing
and
investing
in
small
black
brown
and
locally
owned
businesses.
O
Certainly
I'll
jump
in
first
and
then
I'll.
Let
claire
follow.
First
of
all,
there
are
many
a
number
of
ways
that
this
can
be
achieved,
but
the
primary
way
we've
been
talking
about
in
terms
of
short-term
goals
is
to
go
through
the
procurement
process
with
a
lot
a
lot,
many
of
our
large
institutions
and
be
more
more
intentional
once
again
about
selecting
black
and
brown
businesses
for
those
opportunities.
O
Once
again,
when
I
worked
in
city
council,
I
actually
co-wrote
the
legislation
that
requires
economic
opportunity
plans
on
all
city
projects
back
in
2007,
with
a
a
a
guy
from
the
law
department
named
howard,
rye
who's
no
longer
with
us-
and
I
remember
thinking
at
that
time.
Oh
this
is
going
to
help
so
much.
This
is
going
to
make
black
businesses
move
the
needle
in
terms
of
how
much
business
they're
getting
from
the
city
and.
O
It
did
it
didn't
happen
that
way
there
were
goals
to
be
met,
but
I
don't
think
there
was
the
intention
behind
it
from
a
lot
of
companies
to
actually
follow
through
with
those
goals,
and
you
guys
know
in
city
council
we've
said
several
hearings
trying
to
fill
out
paperwork
watching
the
applicants
fill
out
paperwork
on
their
eops
right
there
during
the
council
session
and
it
was
an
afterthought,
and
so
what
we
need
to
do
is
change
that
afterthought
into
a
forethought
and
that's
has
to
not
just
happen
on
the
public
level.
O
You
know
the
law,
although
a
lot
of
black
and
brown
businesses
go
for
city
business,
the
larger
pool
of
resources
and
revenue
and
possibility
opportunities
is
in
the
private
sector,
and
so
you
will
see-
and
you
see
in
the
report,
one
of
the
primary
six
goals
is
to
increase
black
and
brown
procurement
in
the
private
sector.
That
means
we're
going
to
be
more
intentional
in
terms
of
making
sure
those
businesses
get
those
opportunities,
and
I'm
gonna
tell
you.
O
I
have
my
conversations
just
about
every
day
on
this
exact
subject,
a
good.
Eighty
percent
of
my
calls
have
to
do
with
inclusion.
That
lets
me
know,
and
it
even
further
encourages
me
after
joining
the
chamber
back
in
october,
that
the
people
at
the
chamber
are
intentional
about
doing
this
and
serious
about
doing
it.
O
You
got
to
understand
I'm
a
guy
who
worked
in
public
service,
that's
with
you
guys
for
for
several
years,
and
I
had
a
different
perception
of
the
chamber
that
I
have
now,
and
I
know
that
they're
just
like
they're
in
city
council.
You
know
a
lot
of
good
people
want
to
do
great
things
over
in
the
private
sector.
Also,
it's
just
that.
In
my
opinion,
it
could
be
better
collaboration-
and
I
mentioned
that
in
my
in
my
previous
notes.
O
Secondly,
in
terms
of
workforce
you're
right,
we
have
to
upskill
individuals
for
those
positions
there.
There
were
a
lot
of
companies
previously,
who
required
you
to
have
a
bachelor's
degree
required.
You
have
an
associate's
degree,
some
type
of
degree
before
they
would
even
consider
you
and
I'm
hearing
a
lot
more
conversation
around
okay.
We
don't
need
those
particular
degrees.
O
We
need
you
to
have
the
skills
to
to
be
able
to
to
do
the
job
and
do
the
job
well,
and
it's
more
about
training
people
for
the
soft
skills
in
office
work,
and
so
I
can
tell
you
this.
O
I
remember
telling
their
age,
but
when,
when
windows
came
around,
you
know
it
took
me
a
second
to
really
figure
out
how
to
work
that,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
still
don't
know
how
to
work
windows,
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
put
them
in
a
position
to
learn
those
skills
how
to
use.
I
still
can't
use
the
copy
or
where
I
work
and
that's
embarrassing,
but
I'm
an
attorney-
and
I
still
I
should.
O
I
should
know
that-
and
I
have
to
get
people
to
help
me
work
the
cop
here,
because
the
accomplishments
are
new
now.
But
these
are
the
soft
skills
that
you
learn
being
on
the
job,
communicating
with
people,
understanding
what
it
takes
to
be
an
integral
part
of
a
team,
and
the
chamber
is
definitely
and
his
membership
is
gonna,
be
more
intentional
about
providing
those
opportunities,
claire
I'll
pass
it
up
to
you.
B
Yeah,
so
maybe
I'll
just
follow
will's
comments
with
a
couple
of
specifics,
in
particular
I'll
start
on
the
the
workforce
on
upskilling.
I
think,
chairman
green,
that
you
asked
about
so
the
the
the
sort
of
focus
there
is
around
a
handful
of
things.
B
First,
how
do
we
help
kind
of
as
a
community,
but
certainly
with
the
resources
of
the
business
community,
support
and
provide
access
to
training?
So
you
talking
about
sort
of
upskilling
and
providing
resources
for
individuals.
B
We
have
at
least
one
member,
and
I
believe
there
are
others
who
are
coming
to
the
table
there
who
are
going
to
provide
access
to
their
learning
management
platform
as
a
service
through
philadelphia
works
to
collaborate
on
really
bringing
scale
to
access
to
training.
B
So
it
is
one
example,
but
certainly
an
example,
a
key
example
of
one
way
of
doing
that.
So
how
do
we
both
share
best
practices
around
those
areas
of
work
within
our
membership,
but
also
to
extend
that
conversation
beyond?
We
are
right
now
really
focusing
on
understanding
where
upskilling
and
reskilling
can
be
most
relevant
for
high
demand
jobs,
so
we
were
trying
to
be
very
focused
about
where
those
roles
are
and
making
the
connection
points
as
effectively
as
possible.
B
On
your
additional
question
regarding
a
vision
of
being
a
community
that
supports
companies
and
organizations
that
are
local
and
to
will's
point
in
particular
on
the
procurement
and
supplier
diversity
piece,
our
intent
is
to
gather
interest
and
commitments
from
organizations
in
the
region
and
then
work
with
them
to
understand
sort
of
where
they
are
in
that
process.
Do
you
look
at
your
spending
and
your
vendor
database?
B
You
should
how
do
we
help
you
do
that
to
share
those
best
practices
and
help
organizations
learn?
Some
we
know
are
farther
on
that
road
than
others
and,
as
will
said,
we
we
are
already
working
with
many
members
who
are
looking
to
understand
where
they
can
find
diverse
businesses,
whether
that
is
through
the
city's
oeo
database
or
other
resources.
B
Our
colleagues,
as
you
heard
from
jim
earlier,
are
really,
I
think,
leading
the
charge
and
focus
around
how
to
provide
capital,
and
I
think,
we'll
hear
more
from
anne
later
and
nevins
from
pidc
about
sort
of
the
the
constraint
around
that
capital
resource
for
black
and
brown
businesses
in
the
community
and
then
related.
B
We
are
also
trying
to
help
support
a
couple
members
of
the
community
who
are
looking
at
the
development
of
a
black
venture
fund,
specifically
targeted
to
technology
entrepreneurs,
so
those
are
just
a
handful
of
maybe
more
specific
examples
but
happy
to
to
take
additional
questions
there.
Certainly,
as
as
will
mentioned
in
our
own
programming
at
the
chamber
for
more
than
10
years,
we
have
had
our
co
access
network,
which
we
are
continuing
and
growing
those
partnerships.
B
This
year,
as
well
as
our
roadmap
for
growth,
which
this
year
will
be
doing,
a
series
of
I'll
call
them
events
but
sort
of
workshops
in
communities,
and
I
hope
that
we
can
partner
with
others
that
you're
hearing
from
today
on
that
kind
of
content
and
technical
assistance.
That
would
be
most
useful
for
us
to
bring
to
to
those
conversations.
A
Thank
you.
I
just
have
one
question
and
I
know
we
have
one
final
question
and
then
we'll
have
questions
from
council
members,
catherine
gilmore,
richardson,
councilmember,
dom
and
councilmember
va
in
reference
to
the
things
you
talked
about,
especially
regarding
procurement
and
diversifying,
as
well
as
workforce
and
helping
to
have
more
people
from
the
city
of
philadelphia,
especially
african
american
and
latin
constituents.
O
Standards
I'll
once
again
go
first
on
that.
That
is
a
mechanism
that
we
are
currently
working
on
at
this
time.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
moving
the
needle,
no
matter
as
as
claire
mentioned,
you
have
people
who
are
further
along
in
this
area
and
people
who,
quite
frankly,
haven't
done
that.
Well
in
that
area,
so
we
have
in
the
equity
pledge
we
had
several
members
of
the
chamber
signed
that
pledge.
O
We
also
are
encouraging
other
individuals
to
sign
it
and
when
we,
when
they
sign
this,
pledge,
we're
not
talking
about
a
pledge
everybody
hears
about
the
pledge,
all
the
time
we're
talking
about,
walking
that
talk
and
and
we're
being.
Once
again,
I
can't
use
the
word
enough
more
intentional
about
walking
that
talk,
because
several
of
our
business
community
members
have
been
walking
that
talk
for
some
time,
so
we're
developing
a
mechanism
to
be
able
to
track
that.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
people
are
encouraged
to
to
to
to
walk
in
those
steps.
O
We
don't
want
it's
not
about
hey
we're
about
to
point
you
out
for
not
being
that
diverse.
No,
we
want
to
help
you
get
to
the
diverse
as
diverse
as
you
can
be.
So
part
of
that
is-
and
I
say
this
all
the
time
my
three
b's
is
first
set
in
the
baseline.
O
Secondly,
employing
best
practices
whatever
they
may
be,
and
then
three
committing
to
bettering
those
numbers
year
after
year,
and
I
think
with
that
that
framework
we
will
be
able
to
get
where
we
want
to
be
in
this
rare
area
so
I'll
pass
it
once
again
to
claire.
B
Yeah,
thank
you
will,
I
think
I
think
you
probably
covered
it
there,
but
the
importance
here,
chairman
green,
will
be
to
to
figure
out
how
we
set
the
effective
baseline
so
that
we
can
measure
progress
against
a
baseline,
as
I'm
sure
you're
all
aware,
particularly
at
a
five
count
county
level.
There's
no
good
data
set
for
measuring
progress
here.
So
I
think
our
first.
B
Our
first
task
here
is
to
design
what
a
dashboard
could
look
like
and
do
so
in
collaboration
with
not
only
those
who
need
to
procure
services,
but
certainly
with
the
key
voice
of
diverse
business
owners
at
the
table,
because
it
may
not
just
be
a
spend
shift
that
matters.
It
may
be
a
long-term
contract
as
an
example
versus
a
single
engagement
with
an
organization
that
is
really
critical
to
moving
the
needle
and
adding
jobs
for
that
organization
over
time.
B
O
And-
and
I
would
say
in
that
regard-
we're
also
we're
working
with
the
city
oeo
we're
working
with
the
african-american
chamber
of
commerce,
we're
also
working
with
the
economy
league
and
several
other
people
who
have
been
doing
good
work
in
this
space
already
to
get
a
model
that
we
know,
we
believe,
will
work
for
and
be
the
most
effective
for
the
city
of
philadelphia.
A
Thank
you.
Well,
no,
go
we'll
now
go
to
council
member
catherine
gilmore
richardson.
G
M
H
G
Yes,
thank
you
so
much,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
for
your
testimony.
G
I
just
wanted
to
circle
back
to
the
workforce,
development
piece
and
you
took
a
special
amount
of
time
to
speak
to
upskilling
and
soft
skill
development,
but
I
wanted
to
know,
if
is
a
part
of
your
task
force,
if
you've
done
any
research
or
work
with
the
workforce,
development
organizations
like
philadelphia,
works
and
others
to
look
at
our
labor
market
forecast
posts
or
through
covet
19
in
the
city,
and
you
mentioned
a
warehousing
or
I
guess,
multi-modal
logistics
types,
companies
info
and
technology,
energy
infrastructure,
healthcare
and
finance.
G
Could
you
just
talk
about
the
labor
market
forecast
piece
and
what
you
all
are
seeing?
Who
you
have
worked
with
and
then
also?
I
wanted
to
pay
special
and
close
attention
to
the
energy
infrastructure,
particularly
around
the
green
economy,
and
how
we
can
focus
on
the
green
economy
through
our
recovery
efforts
here
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
So
thank
you
so
much
and
thank
you,
mr
chairman,.
B
Yeah
sorry
quickly,
thank
you
for
the
question.
We
are
doing
this
work
in
collaboration
with
philadelphia
works,
so
I
think
that
was
sort
of
the
initial
premise
of
your
question.
We
are
leveraging
both
the
partnership.
I
think
the
desire
to
work
in
collaboration
across
their
sort
of
the
this
sort
of
public
and
private
effort,
and
I
know
that
they
are
also
working
very
closely
with
commerce
and
pidc
on
these
efforts
as
well.
B
Also
so
that's
sort
of,
I
think,
the
first
response
in
doing
so,
we're
really
leveraging
their
data
set
on
the
labor
market
indicators.
But
what
we
hope
to
bring
to
that
is
a
is
sort
of
a
check
on
that
that
data
set
in
the
context
of
the
reality
of
markets
for
individual
employers.
B
So
the
plan
is
to
say
if
we
think
it's
warehousing
and
logistics,
let's
get
a
group
of
15
of
those
employers
together
and
and
really
check
to
make
sure
that,
even
though
there
may
be
a
huge
number
of
listings,
are
you
hiring?
What's
the
timing
of
your
hiring
and
what
are
the
skills
necessary
to
meet
the
threshold
for
those
roles?
There
are
examples
where
the
labor
market
data
would
suggest:
there's
large
hiring
needs
in
particular
sectors
or
at
particular
employers.
B
They
may
be
posting
jobs,
but
they
may
not
be
hiring
for
those
roles
right
now.
So
we
really
view
part
of
this
exercise
in
the
very
very
short
term
is
to
ensure
that
we
have
as
real-time
information
as
possible
about
what
those
demands
and
needs
are
so
that
the
system
you
know
with
philadelphia
works
and
there
are
also
which
we
appreciate
very
much-
bringing
the
other
county
libs
into
the
conversation,
so
that
we're
really
working
in
collaboration
with
the
public
workforce
system.
On
this
effort.
G
Mr
chair
quickly,
thank
you
so
much
for
that
response
and
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
and
say
that
I
think
it's
important
that
we
also
continue
to
work
with
the
school
district,
on
curriculum
realignment
for
the
career
and
technical
education
programs
that
we
have
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
as
well.
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
on
the
record.
I
do
have
a
resolution
on
that
issue.
G
That's
pending,
we
will
be
having
hearings,
but
we
need
to
work
with
the
district,
around
curriculum
realignment
for
the
labor
market
indicators,
we're
seeing
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
so
that
we
can
adequately
prepare
young
people
for
those
job
opportunities
that
will
be
coming
on
board
as
they
graduate
because,
as
you
stated
earlier
in
your
testimony,
mr
carter,
that
not
all
of
our
young
people
will
go
to
college,
but
they
should
be
career
ready
upon
graduation,
and
that
is
the
role
we
are
tasked
with
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
A
C
Thank
you,
chairman,
greene
and
coach,
your
squealer
for
this
hearing
today.
I
think
that's
great
and
thank
you
chamber
for
your
testimony.
I
have
two
questions.
C
One
is
just
informational
for
my
benefit,
I'm
assuming
that
the
philippine
chamber
of
commerce
also
meets
with,
on
a
regular
basis,
all
the
other
chambers
of
commerce
in
this
city,
like
the
african-american
chamber,
the
hispanic
chamber,
the
asian
chamber,
and
I'm
assuming
that
we
all
are
all
working
collaboratively
together
to
help
all
businesses
in
the
cities.
That
is
that,
on
a
monthly
basis,
tell
me
how
that
exactly
works.
How
does
those
meetings
occur?.
O
Yes,
we
actually
have
a
monthly
meeting
with
with
the
chambers
as
a
cohort
all
together,
but
I'm
on
conversations
and
in
conversations
with
the
leaders
of
all
those
chambers
on
a
regular
basis.
In
between
that
time,
we
were
just
on
a
call
yesterday
about
we
had
an
event.
I
believe
it
was
yesterday
regarding
investing
in
black
and
brown
businesses,
and
we
had
jennifer
rodriguez
from
the
hispanic
american
chamber
of
commerce
was
one
of
the
panelists.
O
I
talked
with
with
steve
bradley
from
the
african
american
chamber
of
commerce
on
a
regular
basis,
zach
wilker
from
the
independence
chamber
and
nick
chinoy.
I
actually
have
a
call
with
him
today
from
the
asian
american
chamber
of
commerce.
So,
yes,
we
do
talk
on
a
regular
basis.
H
C
I
mean
pre-covert,
I
guess,
but
it
may
be
post
covered,
we
can
do
it.
Are
there
actually
functions
and
events
where
all
members
of
all
the
chambers
are
invited
where
there
can
be
a
mixing
of
everybody
together,
so
that
everyone
can
have
an
ability
to
meet
each
other
and
collectively
and
collaboratively
help
each
other.
O
Yes,
yes,
we,
I
didn't
realize
how
many
events
the
chamber
did
prior
to
coming
over
there
over
here.
Now
the
transition
is
done,
but
so
yeah
there
are
about
300
different
events
that
the
chamber
does
a
little
over
300
events,
and
many
of
them
have
to
do
with
collaborating
with
the
other
chambers,
and
we've
been
trying
to
maintain
that
as
much
as
possible
during
cobit,
through
zoom
platforms
and
microsoft
teams,
and
things
like
that.
C
Okay,
thank
you.
Here's
my
second
question,
probably
maybe
a
little
more
in
depth,
and
that
is,
if
you
were
going
to
recommend
to
our
this
council
body
three
legislative
priorities
that
we
can
actually
accomplish:
okay
for
city
council,
to
help
smartly
restart
our
economy
and
to
help
the
existing
businesses
that
we've
talked
about
recover
and
help
us
grow
new
businesses.
C
What
would
those
three
priorities
be
for
us?
And
let
me
give
you
some
background
on
where
I'm
going
with
this.
So
you
understand
where
my
head's
at
there
was
a
study
done
that
showed
that
of
the
top
35
cities
in
the
u.s
for
employment
change
in
the
last
10
years,
09
to
19
philosophy,
ranked
28th
out
of
35
almost
towards
the
bottom
of
the
top
35
cities
in
the
country
which
concerns
me.
C
The
second
charter
is
going
to
call
to
your
attention,
has
to
do
with
the
development
of
black-owned
businesses
per
1000
residents
in
compared
to,
I
guess,
philadelphia.
You've
probably
seen
the
study
compared
to
atlanta
new
york,
boston
and
washington,
and
it
showed
for
philadelphia
1.8.
C
C
C
Philadelphia
is
the
only
city
where
the
jobs
are
greater
in
the
suburbs
than
in
the
city,
we're
the
only
region
where
jobs
are
greater
in
the
suburbs
than
the
city.
Every
other
city
has
more
jobs
than
their
suburbs.
So
in
that
backdrop,
can
you
give
me
three
give
this
council
body
three
ideas?
How
we
can
change
that
dynamic?
O
Certainly
well
first,
I
would
like
to
to
bring
everyone's
attention
back
to
the
recommendations
in
the
report
that
we
have.
We
have
six
short-term
recommendations.
The
first
is
number
one.
O
We
have
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
safe
city
and
brand
our
city
as
the
safest
city
in
america,
no
matter
how
we
do
that
that
takes
coordinated
efforts
in
terms
from
the
city,
the
the
local,
the
local
non-profit
sector
and
the
local
private
sector
in
terms
of
branding
our
city
and
making
sure
that
we
can
back
that
up,
and
so
that
takes
contact
tracing
working
with
the
city
we
had.
O
We've
talked
with
dr
farley
on
a
number
of
occasions,
and
we
had
a
what
we
call
a
city
hall,
connectors
program
with
him
last
month,
where
he
talked
about
the
city's
process
for
contact
tracing,
how
they're
trying
to
build
that
up.
But
we
wanted
to
be
known
as
the
best
city
for
that
we
want
to
be
known
as
the
city
that
is
the
best
coordinated
efforts
in
in
ensuring
our
city
is
safe.
O
I
tell
people
this
all
the
time
my
mother
won't
come
out
of
the
house
and
let
alone
go
to
a
restaurant,
to
do
anything
like
that,
and
so
until
she
feels
safe
and
a
number
of
people,
just
like
her
they're,
not
good
we're
not
going
to
get
that
robust
boost
to
our
economy
back.
So
we
have
to
do
that.
O
Secondly,
as
we
talked
about
upskilling
black
and
brown
upskilling
people
period,
but
making
sure
that
black
and
brown
workers
are
are
in
the
workforce
to
the
degree
that
they
they
should
be
and
represented
in
businesses
as
as
they
should
be,
so
we
we
have
to
invest
in
that
we
have
to
invest
in
in
the
ability
to
to
skills
training
programs.
We
have
to
offer
those
we
have
to
work
with
the
city.
In
that
regard,
we
mentioned
philadelphia,
works
and
there's
a
number
of
cohorts
in
the
nonprofit
sector
that
do
this.
O
We
want
to
help
scale
those
we
were
actually
working
with
the
council
president
on
an
initiative
that
he's
announcing
tomorrow
in
north
philadelphia,
where
we're
going
to
be
upskilling
returning
citizens
to
work
in
landscaping,
and
things
like
that.
So
they
have
a
experience
to
be
able
to
come
out
of
a
program
and
work
for
some
of
the
landscaping
companies
that
are
a
part
of
the
chamber
and
those
chamber.
O
Members
have
committed
to
hiring
these
individuals,
and
so
we
want
to
do
that
for
in
all
spectrums
of
the
job
market
and
then
in
the
business
market.
Once
again,
it's
really
about
investing
in
businesses,
and
so
not
only
are
we
talking
about
more
intentionality
about
providing
opportunities
procurement,
but
we're
also
talking
about
making
sure
that
financial
institutions
are
are
being
more
intentional
about
lending
to
these
ambitious
and
and
and
capable
entrepreneurs
out
here
in
our
city,
and
so
I
say
this
all
the
time
it
takes
two
things
to
succeed.
O
It
takes
a
genuine
opportunity
and
the
ability
to
take
advantage
of
that
genuine
opportunity,
and
so
I
will
tell
you
this.
The
chamber
is
in
the
business
of
providing
and
offering
genuine
opportunities
and
working
with
whomever
to
make
sure
that
individuals
are
prepared
to
take
advantage
of
those
opportunities,
so
any
type
of
legislation
you
have
in
that
regard.
That
would
be
help
move
these
things
forward.
O
Obviously,
the
allocations
and
investments
for
skills,
training-
and
things
like
that
would
be
great,
would
be
well
very
welcomed,
and
I
know
this
is
something
that
you
that
you
particularly
have
talked
about
councilman
dom.
We
have
to
talk
about
training
in
in
high
school
financial
literacy,
training
in
high
school
I've
been
to
crystal
ray
school
matter
of
fact.
O
Well,
you
participated
in
an
event
with
us
at
crystal
ray
and
I
was
just
blown
away
and
I
come
from
a
long
line
of
teachers,
grandmother,
great
grandmother,
mother,
all
teachers
and
just
the
the
format
that
that
school
works
in
whether
they're
training,
entrepreneurs
or
entrepreneur,
skills
and
they're
training
for
other
skills,
and
they
also
have
financial
literacy.
Training
is
key.
A
lot
of
people
come
out
of
college.
I
came
out
of
college.
O
I
didn't
have
great
credit
because
I
messed
it
up
in
college.
I
had
to
rebuild
my
credit
and
I
didn't
have
a
sense
of
that.
But
if
you're
not
teaching
these
skills,
if
you
start
teaching
these
skills,
I
say
as
a
freshman
in
in
high
school,
you
come
out.
You
have
a
relationship
with
a
bank
because
you've
been
keeping
a
pass,
but
apparently
they've
been
they
used
to
do
that.
Councilman
sanchez
said
they
did
that
a
long
time
ago.
O
We
need
to
be
able
to
have
individuals
come
out
if
they're
not
going
to
go
into
college,
be
ready
to
start
a
business
if
they
have
the
ability,
because
they
have
a
good
financial
literacy
skills.
So
anything
that
you
can
do
in
that
regard
with
the
school
district-
and
I
know
you've
been
pushing
on
that,
I'm
sure
would
be
welcome.
C
Thank
you
I
get.
I
guess
I
mean
in
that
light.
I'm
just
gonna
reiterate
what
everybody
knows,
I'm
gonna
say,
and
that
is
we
should
be
mandatorily
teaching
pre-k
to
12th
grade
financial
literacy,
coding,
tech
and
entrepreneurship
mandatory
in
every
grade.
But
having
said
that,
I
guess
well
what
I'm?
What
I'm
saying
really
is
that
we
have
a
structural
problem.
These.
The
information
that
I
stated
are
from
the
last
10
years,
even
before
the
pandemic,
we
have,
we
are
as
a
city.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
really
restructure.
C
I
think
our
tax
system,
so
that
we're
not
at
the
bottom
of
these,
these
charts
we're
at
the
top,
and
I
guess
what
I'm
looking
for
from
the
chamber.
You
don't
have
to
give
it
to
me
today.
You
can,
you
know,
go
back
to
the
chamber
and
kind
of
come
back
to
this
body
and
to
our
chairperson
and
give
us
the
recommendations.
C
What
should
we
be
doing
as
a
council
to
change
these
statistics
for
the
city
overall,
because
I
believe
that
we
have
to
grow
the
whole
pie?
It's
not
just
one
section
of
the
pie:
every
everyone
benefits
when
we
grow
the
whole
pie,
and
so
black
and
brown
communities,
our
numbers
are
atrocious
and
we
need
to
figure
out.
Why
is
that
happening?
But
it's
also
bad
for
all
businesses.
This
is
not
just
one
sec.
This
is
the
whole
the
whole
philadelphia.
C
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councilmember
dom
now
we'll
have
council
member
gaurtier
sanchez
brooks
and
then
gilmore
richton.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair
good
morning
will
and
claire.
Thank
you
for
sharing
the
outcome
of
your
report
and
your
recommendations.
F
My
question
is
similar
to
council
member
doms,
but
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
talk
specifically
about
how
many
and
the
ways
in
which
you've
engaged
black
and
brown
businesses
in
the
the
task
force
and
in
the
work
of
developing
the
recommendations
to
ensure
that
the
recommendations
in
in
this
area
are
meaningful
and
relevant
to
them
and,
in
particular,
I'm
thinking
about
some
of
the
more
vulnerable
small
businesses
like
those
on
our
our
corridors.
O
Claire
you
want
to
talk
about
the
formation
of
the
of
the
committee
and
the
diversity.
B
Yeah,
thank
you
and
I
was
actually
just
trying
to
pull
the
exact
numbers
up
so
that
I
can
give
you
a
very
clear
answer
to
the
question
to
your
question.
We
the
165
folks
or
so-
who
were
kind
of
foundational
over
june
and
july,
and
I
will
get
you
that
specific
number
we're
intentionally
a
diverse
group
of
individuals.
B
B
Our
intent
is
to
even
further
deepen
the
engagement
with
organizations
and
individuals
who
are
running
businesses
so
that
their
voice
can
really
help
define
not
only
the
measures
by
which
we
want
to
measure
progress,
but
the
action
plan
itself.
So
let
me
dig
through
my
my
my
notes
here,
so
I
can
give
you
that
number
specifically.
B
O
And
while
claire
pulls
that
up,
I
will
say
that
it
was
the
diversity
numbers
were
high
in
this
regard
and
purposely
prior
to
us
coming
in
and
testifying,
I
believe
jim
burnett
was
on
and
he
was
part
of
the
task
force
and
you
know
with
he
works
with
west
philadelphia,
financial
services
and
several
of
the
local
cdfis
and
and
organizations
like
enterprise
center.
We
work
with
them
on
a
regular
basis.
Also,
so
I
would
say
to
further
enhance
this.
You
can
always
improve.
O
F
Sure
I
mean
you
named
a
number
of
organizations
who
I
would
think
would
be
at
the
table
and
who
are
experiencing
this
work.
I
just
think
it's
also
important
to
hear
directly
from
small
business
owners
around
recommendations
that
we're
going
to
put
forward.
I
mean
as
if
we're
talking
about
you
know,
barriers
to
procurement.
F
For
instance,
you
know
we
have
to
understand
that
from
the
perspective
of
a
small
business
owner,
if
we're
talking
about
capital
and
barriers
to
that,
we
have
to
understand
that
directly
from
the
experience
of
a
small
business
owner
and
the
type
of
small
business
owners
that
would
be
in
our
neighborhoods
and-
and
I
think
that's,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
seeing
more
on
that
information,
particularly
if
that,
if
our
council
is
going
to
sort
of
embrace
these
recommendations,
we
have
to
make
sure
that
they're
vetted
by
the
folks.
O
And
let
me
just
add
to
what
I
said
earlier:
you're
absolutely
right.
We,
the
the
task
force,
was
broken
down
into
eight
verticals
or
subcommittees,
and
one
of
them
was
on
small
businesses
and
there
were
a
number
of
local
businesses
as
part
of
that
particular
meeting,
and
that
particular
task
force
subcommittee-
and
I
was
on
a
few
of
those
calls
and
let
me
say
that
they
were
very
aggressive
calls
and
I
believe
they
should
have
been.
You
know.
O
People
are
talking
about
the
historic
disenfranchisement
that
they
have
experienced
and
I
what
I
thought
was
best
about
that
call
was
the
candidness
of
the
call,
the
diversity
of
the
members
on
of
that
task,
force,
subcommittee
and
and
the
number
of
of
of
topics
that
they
broach
that
you
and
I
may
talk
about
when
we're
somewhere
that
I'm
used
to
talking
about
in
groups.
O
But
there
were,
there
were
there's
a
diverse
group
of
members
of
that
task,
force
subcommittee
that
were
able
to
hear
the
concerns
the
frustrations
and
come
back
with
recommendations
in
that
regard.
So
we
want
to
continue
to
expand
that.
N
N
You
know
that's
music
to
my
ears
because,
ultimately,
outside
of
setting
up
a
baseline
goals
are
important
and
any
matrix
should
have
should
have
some
goals,
just
kind
of
want
to
amplify
some
of
the
some
of
the
comments
by
my
colleagues,
catherine
from
the
cte
perspective,
and
how
do
we
build
the
workforce
and
council
person
gottier
around
connecting
that,
and
I
know,
beth
mcconnell
from
pacdc
is
going
to
be
testifying.
N
We
really
need
to
get
the
chamber
very
much
engaged
in
these
commercial
corridors
and
some
of
the
work
that
is
being
done
there
and
the
phcdc
because
of
the
work
they've
done
on
the
ground.
I
think
provides
a
unique
opportunity
for
the
chamber
as
it
as
it
really
outlines
his
goals.
You
know
when
I
was
doing
b
corp
legislation.
N
One
of
the
things
that
I
learned
when
I
went
throughout
the
city
and
visited
some
of
the
b
corps
is
that
you
don't
know
what
you
don't
know
or
what
you
don't
want
to
see
until
you
create
some
sort
of
framework
to
evaluate
yourselves,
and
so
I
would
encourage
you
that
that
baseline
really
needs
to
speak
to
you
know
you
don't
want
to
to
embarrass
your
members,
but
you
do
need
to
establish
a
profile
of
your
membership.
You
do
need
to
give
us
the
the
data
about.
N
If
your
members
are
serious
about
setting
up
aspirational
goals
for
this,
they
need
to
show
us
their
profile
right,
and
you
know
we
need
to
be
able
to
call
out
the
president
and
ceo
of
wells
fargo
when
he
says
you
don't
have
a
resume
file
like
we
need
to
say
that
is
unacceptable
in
2020.,
and
so,
while
I
don't
want
you
to
beat
up
your
members,
I
do
want
you
to
have
your
members
really
reflect
around
what
this
means,
and
you
can't
do
that
if
you
don't
have
that
baseline
data
right,
but
I
think
again,
I
think
the
the
the
neighborhood
growth
strategy,
if,
if
you've
learned
anything
through
that
process
and
those
of
us
who've
participated
with
you
in
that
process-
is
that
there
are
a
lot
of
strategic
stakeholders
on
the
ground
that
really
want
to
be
engaged.
N
But
there
has
to
be
a
value
system
set
up
for
that
right
because
I
think
people
you
know
how
many
meetings
do
you
go
to
how
many
times
do
you
sit
at
the
table
as
the
only
person
you
know
and
you're
preaching
to
yourself
right,
because
you
sit
through
these
discussions
and
if
we're
gonna
move
the
needle
on
this,
and
you
know
I
appreciate
that
this
committee
is
committed
to
this
process.
N
You
know
I
want
to
see
us
as
part
of
that
restart
and
that
smart
restart
that
alan
dom
talks
about
is
you
know
business
is
closing
downtown
how
much?
How
much
are
you
going
to
do
as
a
chamber
to
help
businesses
consider
the
neighborhoods
right
businesses
that
need
larger
spaces?
N
And
you
can't
do
that
if,
if
you're
not
really
setting
some
some
aspirational,
some
some
big
goals,
you
got
to
think
big
and-
and
I
think
that
one
of
the
frustrations
with
people
and
and
hopefully
it
will
not
be
reflected
in
this
in
this
election.
I
hope
people
come
out.
People
are
frustrated
because
we've
had
these
conversations
before
and
so
we're
looking
for
something
different.
N
N
What
in
your
current
system
allows
you
to
create
a
profile
of
your
business
membership
that
allows
us
to
see
right,
that
that
we're
gonna
be
more
transparent
and
in
the
relationship.
O
Well,
thank
you
for
that
question
councilwoman
and
we
currently
right
now
have
a
breakdown
of
our
our
membership
and
it's
on
our
website
for
public
consumption
about
and
you
can
you
can
change
the
the
the
the
form
by
particular
demographic.
So,
if
you
want
to
say
african-american
owned
businesses,
you
can
click
that
and
it
will
show
all
the
african-american
owned
businesses.
O
It
will
show
the
women-owned
businesses
and
so
forth,
and
so
what
I
talked
about
in
the
three
b's
is
cr
following
best
practices
in
that
regard,
I
think
that's
important
for
anybody
in
any
any
government
entity
any
any
non-profit
like
the
chamber
or
any
public
private
entity.
O
We
we
want
to
put
in
place
a
mechanism
that
we
will
be
able
to
set.
Those
baselines
have
be
able
to
set
benchmarks
and
and
then
have
people
employ
best
practices
from
across
the
world.
If
necessary,
I
mean
there
are
several
people
who
are
experts
in
the
space
of
diversity,
equity,
inclusion.
We
don't
have
to
reinvent
the
wheel
as
a
chamber.
We
need
to
be
able
to
bring
people
in
and
to
talk
to
us
like
we
do
on
a
regular
basis
with
our
over
300
events.
O
That's
what
we
have
experts
talk
about
different
things,
and
this
is
the
priority
for
for
hopefully
forever
to
make
sure
that
there's
equity
in
inclusion
in
our
in
our
in
our
business
community,
and
so
I
don't
want
to
say
exactly
how
we're
doing
that,
because
once
again
we're
constructing
that.
But
what
we're
talking
about
is
ensuring
that
there
are
experts
involved.
Who
do
this?
Who
understand
how
these
metrics
work
and
how
they
can
work
best
and
and
engaging
with
them
to
help
come
help
us
build.
N
Thank
you
again,
the
workforce
development
component.
I
think
there
again
that's
not.
This
crisis
is
a
real
opportunity
to
re,
as,
as
the
chairman
was
saying,
we
really
do
have
to
reimagine
and
that's
the
space
that
I'm
in
it's
sort
of
like
I've
had
the
conversation
for
33
years.
I
we
really
got
to
reimagine
and
refocus
in
a
way
and
the
chamber
because
of
the
equity.
The
stature
that
you
have
has
to
has
to
leave
that
discussion
in
a
real.
N
I'm
a
little
bit
more
positive
right
now,
I'm
encouraged,
but
ultimately
again
when
I'm
having
a
conversation
with
a
barber,
you
know
who
comes
visit
me
at
my
house
to
tell
me
how
this
industry
to
council
member
gautier
is.
You
know
where
sometimes
that's
the
only
opportunity
returning
citizens
and
others
have,
and
they
have
to
walk
away
from
that
right.
Here
again
we
created
an
obstacle
that
you
know
for
folks
it.
You
know
last
night,
I
and
then
watching
the
debate.
N
I
I
was
very
frustrated
because
I
didn't
have
answers
for
him
and
I
couldn't
reassure
him
that
those
those
people
who
owned
their
private
businesses
or
had
a
chair
and
were
independent
contractors.
I
didn't
really,
I
couldn't
really
say
anything
encouraging
about
their
ability
to
go
back
to
that
right
and
so
now,
they're
in
logistics
and
they're
owning
you
know,
they're
earning
less
than
15
an
hour
when
they
own
their
own
chair,
they
own
their
own
business.
They
have
their
own
clients.
It's
like
they're,
starting
over
and
and
really
feeling
like.
N
You
know,
we're
we're
not
giving
them
a
pathway
to
this
to
that
independence
and
again,
that's
a
challenge
for
all
of
us
right.
I
just
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
couldn't
say
anything
to
him
last
night
to
assure
him
that
this
conversation
was
going
to
be
different
and
I
felt
frustrated
for.
O
That,
well,
let
me
say,
councilwoman,
first
of
all,
and
we
do
appreciate
you
having
participated
in
a
lot.
A
O
Our
programming
and
in
our
city
hall,
connector
series
and
our
roadmap
for
growth
series,
and
this
is
something
that
you've
been
on
for
a
long
time
and
and
and
I
know
you
really
want
to
see
the
needle
moved
in
this
regard-
that's
probably
even
more
than
I
do
so.
We
look
forward
to
continue
to
work
with
you
in
in
any
type
of
ideas
that
you
have.
It's
really
key,
and
I
said
this
at
the
top
of
my
my
my
testimony.
O
It
has
to
be
that
way,
and
I
I
can't
stress
it
enough:
I'm
in
the
executive
committee
meetings
claire,
is
there
and-
and
they
are
talking
about
this-
it
gives
me
encourage.
I
have
further
encouragement
from
being
in
those
meetings
and
they're
talking
about
it,
to
the
extent
that
we
we
should
be
talking
about
equity
and
inclusion,
and
I
I
will
say,
look
towards
the
future:
we're
going
to
continue
to
collaborate
with
you
and
you
will
see
some
some
that
needle
moving
further
soon.
N
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
I
know
that
one
of
the
frustrating
things
for
rob
wunderling
is
the
157
steps
to
opening
up
a
business,
and
I
know
you
co-chaired
our
regulatory
committee.
I
think
it's
time
to
kind
of
reset
that
a
little
bit
too
and
look
at
those
ways.
One
of
the
things
that
we
have
found
through
this
process
is
you
heard
from
our
cdfis.
You
know
we
have
a
lot
of
issues
with
business
being
compliant
because
we
have
a
lot
of
rules,
and
I
think
you
know
let
us
do.
N
Let
us
do
that
in
tangent.
Let
us
show
good
faith
to
businesses
by
figuring
out
how
we
make
157
steps.
You
know
50.
and
and
show
that
we
we
we
want
people
complying,
and
I
know
people
want
to
be
compliant,
but
there's
some
space
for
us
for
for
some
improvement.
So
thank
you
for
again
continuing
to
host
these
public
conversations
and
your
commitment
to
this
work.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Absolutely.
A
A
Thank
you,
member
sanchez,
and
you
know,
we've
been
taking
some
progress
in
that
regard,
but
then
cobit
just
knocked
us
off
our
platform,
so
we're
gonna
have
to
continue
to
focus
on
this
and
use
new
technology.
I
know
you're
familiar
with
l9
eclipse,
luckily
that
launched
right
before
I'm
covered,
but
we
got
to
continue
to
push
forward
in
spite
of
the
pandemic.
That
has
impacted
so
so
many
in
our
day-to-day
lives.
A
M
Thank
you
chairman.
Thank
you.
Everyone
on
this
call,
so
you
mentioned-
or
I
think
remember,
don
talked
about
the
systemic
issues
around
just
workforce
development
and
building
entrepreneurship
in
the
city,
and
you
also
mentioned
the
work
that
you're
doing
around
reentry
around
youth
and
around
training.
M
But
I
also
I'm
also
concerned
on
how
or
what
are
you
doing
to
eliminate
some
of
these
barriers?
And
I
know
a
barrier
is
capital,
but
in
this
post-covet
world
we
have
thousands
of
people
that
won't
go
back
to
work.
We
have
so
many
people
that
may
be
interested
in
starting
a
business,
but
the
thought
of
starting
a
business
and
building
capital
is
difficult
when
you
don't
even
have
a
stable
place
to
stay.
So
I
know
real
estate
and
development
all
falls
under
the
chambers.
M
Are
those
folks
also
a
part
of
the
conversation
and
what
it
looks
like
to
restart
our
economy
post
covet?
And
what
does
that
look
like?
Because,
in
order
for
us
to
build
new
entrepreneurs,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
people
are
stabilized
and
people
can't
think
about
starting
a
business
if
they
don't
have
or
don't
have
a
clue
on?
Where
they're
gonna
stay
next,
so
are
they
a
part
of
the
conversation
as
well.
B
One
I
can
find
my
unmute
button,
so
I
think,
are
you
asking
specifically
about
the
real
estate
community,
whether
they
were
engaged
in
this
process
or
I
apologize?
If,
if
you
wouldn't
mind,
restating
that
the
question
councilwoman.
M
M
So
when
we're
talking
about
restarting
the
economy-
and
we
know
jobs-
aren't
coming
back
as
well-
are
the
folks
that
have
the
power
to
assist,
to
help
stabilize
folks
to
focus
on
building
business
and
restabilizing
our
workforce
at
the
table
in
a
part
of
this
conversation
in
a
way
to
really
help
us
promote
some
growth
here
in
the
city.
B
Well,
you
actually,
I
don't
know
if
you're
better,
to
comment
on
that
to
the
point
of
just
the
eight
areas
of
focus
from
the
original
recharge
task
force.
I
think
the
question
you're
asking
was
not
explicitly
part
of
those
eight
subcommittees
the
challenges.
B
I
think
that
you're
describing
were
an
important
part
of
the
conversations
that
occurred
across
many
of
those
subcommittees
and
we
can
make
sure
that
we
send
as
a
follow-on
if
it's
helpful,
the
resource
we've
developed
the
the
hub,
where
we're
hosting
all
this
information
that
describes
what
those
eight
groups
are,
the
aspirations
we
talked
about
and
the
the
key
short-term
actions.
B
But
it
was
not
a
separate
subcommittee
discussion
because
we
really
wanted
to
thread
through
those
sort
of
key
foundational
community
challenges
across
all
of
the
discussions,
and
they
were
more
industry
focused
than
whether
it
was
housing
or
transportation
or
some
of
those
other
foundational
conversations.
But
I'm
not
sure
I'm
explicitly
answering
your
question.
O
Let
me
jump
in
really
quickly
now
that
I
understand
your
question
further.
We
there
was
a
subcommittee
that
had
to
do
with
construction
and
manufacturing
all
together,
but
the
committee
itself,
the
task
force
itself,
was
more
focused
on
business
recovery
and
economic
recovery
for
for
businesses.
It
wasn't
necessarily
focused
on
with
on
on
housing
and
the
things
that
you're
talking
about.
O
I
know
that
is
one
of
your
key
issues
and
something
that
that
you
are
focused
on,
but
this
particular
committee
was
really
focused
on
short-term,
go
and
long-term
goals
for
economic
recovery
for
business
and
workforce
and
totally
understanding
your
point
and
that
you
know
you
you.
It
helps
to
have
a
stable
foundation
and
it's
probably
necessary
to
be
able
to
to
further
grow
from
there.
But
I
can
say
that
this
subcommittee
didn't
approach
that
that
deeply.
A
Okay,
thank
you
we'll
now
go
to
council
member,
katherine
gilmore
richardson.
I
actually
misspoke.
We
actually
do
have
two
more
panels
and
we'll
start
those
two
panels.
After
council
member
gilmore,
richardson's
questions.
G
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
chair
and
I'll
be
quick
and
brief.
My
last
two
questions
for
this
panel
center
around
the
green
economy
and
how
you
are
prioritizing
that
economy
in
your
recovery
efforts
and
then.
Secondly,
I
wanted
to
mention,
because
I
saw
this
message
on
facebook
and
we
know
that
we
interact
with
our
constituents
on
a
variety
of
mediums,
but
it
was
specifically
about
the
ceo
access
program
and
I
wanted
to
know
if
you
all
were
considering
changing
the
parameters
of
that
program.
G
Now
in
this
post-covet
environment,
particularly
the
constituents
stated
that
for
the
program
you
have
to
demonstrate
annual
sales
of
at
least
500
000
and
an
increase
from
the
prior
year,
and
they
were
also
concerned
that
the
definition
of
small
businesses
does
not
match
the
sba's
definition.
So
can
you
speak
to
if
you
all,
are
considering
a
changing
the
criteria
for
the
ceo
access
program
and
then
what
you're
doing
around
the
green
economy
and
the
green
economy
recovery?
Thank.
O
You
all
right
the
not
necessarily
a
focus
on
the
green
economy
itself.
I
know
that
the
ceo
network
access
network
has
been
working
with
is
a
cohort
of
obviously
regional
ceos
that
work
with
up-and-coming
individuals
who
own
businesses,
so
they
can
learn
the
skills
from
those
particular
experts
in
that
area
and
leaders
in
those
areas.
But
I
don't
have
right
now
any
any
substantive
information
about
the
green
economy
itself,
and
maybe
I
know
that
maybe
that's
something
that
we
can
inject
into
the
conversation.
O
O
And
and
other
other
advancements
in
sustainability,
but
at
least
in
the
conversations
that
I
participated
in,
we
didn't
talk
too
much
about
the
green
club.
There
are,
however,
if
you're
talking
about
jobs
in
the
green
economy.
I
think
that's
another
sector
that
we
can
look
at
even
further,
because
we
want
to
look
at
across
and
and
councilman
green
would
like
this,
every
every
form
of
human
endeavor,
every
field
of
human
endeavor,
to
look
at
what?
O
What
is
possible
for
growth
in
our
city
and
making
sure
that
there's
inclusive
growth
in
those
areas
and
the
green
economy
is
obviously
something
that's
going
to
be
moving
forward
at
an
aggressive
rate.
And
so
that's
something
we
need
to
look
at,
and
we
can
further
talk
with
you
about
that.
B
A
Thank
you,
councilman
gilbert
richardson.
Our
next
panel
will
be
miss
mcconnell
from
philadelphia,
association,
cdc's
and
miss
smith
from
penn
future.
I
want
to
thank
our
last
panel
for
your
information,
as
well
as
my
council
members
for
providing
great
questions,
we'll
continue
to
dream
of
better
futures
for
our
city
and
we'll
keep
achieving
and
follow
mr
carr's
perspective
of
making
sure
we
maximize
all
forms
of
human
endeavor
through
achievement
with
that.
A
If
we
can
have
miss
mcconnell,
ms
smith,
please
take
your
name
for
the
record
and
your
organization
and
then
proceed
with
your
testimony.
H
Good
morning,
chairperson,
green
and
chairperson
squirrela,
my
name
is
beth
mcconnell,
I'm
the
policy
director
at
the
philadelphia
association
of
cdc's.
It's
good
to
see
all
of
your
faces.
This
morning
I
submitted
some
longer
written
testimony
for
the
july
hearing,
so
I'm
going
to
just
kind
of
summarize
a
few
things
and
just
update
you
on
a
few
things
that
have
happened
since
july
for
the
last
seven
years.
Just
by
way
of
background,
I've
convened
pa,
cdc's
commercial
corridor
working
group.
H
It's
a
monthly
gathering
of
staff
that
manage
between
20
to
30
of
our
neighborhood
commercial
corridors,
including
cdc's
and
bids,
and
I
just
want
to
first
just
make
sure
everybody
understands
that
the
work
that
these
quarter
managers
have
done
through
covid
and
continue
to
do
has
just
really
underscored
how
vital
they
are
in
helping
us
recover
from
this
crisis
and
manage
the
crisis.
H
You
know
they
work
with
store
owners
whose
properties
were
either
destroyed
or
damaged
in
recent
social
uprisings
to
clean
it,
up,
secure
the
storefronts
and
find
resources
to
repair
and
rebuild
and
restock
they
served
as
translators
for
business
owners
and,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
last
hearing,
even
really
provided
emotional
support,
which
is
not
something
they've
been
trained
for,
but
it's
been
really
challenging.
H
As
we
see
business
owners,
who've
worked
for
their
whole
lives
to
see
their
business
away
from
something
that
they
can't
control
and
so
they've
been
the
people
on
the
ground
there
that
have
been
working
directly
with
them.
I
do
want
to
also
really
applaud
commerce
and
pidc
and
the
cdfis
since
pre-covet,
but
certainly
during
covid
we've
worked
very
closely.
We
have
a
weekly
meeting
with
commerce
and
philadelphia
lisk
to
coordinate
our
work
and
activities
to
support
commercial
corridors.
H
The
programs
that
the
cdfis
or
the
grant
funds
that
the
cdfis
have
made
available
have
been
extraordinarily
helpful
in
reaching
some
of
the
smallest
businesses
that
could
not
access
ppp
or
other
programs
that
just
are
not
well
we're
not
well
kind
of
geared
towards
some
of
our
smallest
and
most
disadvantaged
businesses
and
the
grant
program
that
commerce
and
pidc
worked
on
to
quickly
get
resources
out
the
door
early
in
the
crisis
really
provided
a
lifeline.
H
It
wasn't
a
lot
of
resources
because
they
just
didn't
have
them,
but
at
least
could
help
some
businesses
get
through
a
month
or
so,
and-
and
I
also
I
want
to
acknowledge
the
importance
of
the
work
to
kick
off.
The
phl
tcb
program
has
been
at
this
time,
because,
if
we're
going
to
recover
from
this,
these
quarters
need
to
be
kept
clean.
H
They
need
to
be
safe,
clean,
well
lit,
that's
the
mantra
that
we
know
and
so
expanding
the
cleaning
programs
not
only
is
important
for
opportunities
for
job
access
for
the
cleaning
staff,
but
their
eyes
and
ears
on
the
street
and
they're
going
to
be
vital
and
they
are
vital
in
helping
attract
more
foot
traffic
back
and
more
businesses
to
open
just
to
comment
on
a
few
of
the
key
challenges
that
we're
facing.
I
think
at
the
beginning
of
this
pandemic.
H
If
I
could
go
back
in
time
to
you
know
a
year
ago,
I
think
the
first
thing
we
would
have
done
is
work
much
more
aggressively
on
data
collection
and
a
data
management
system.
We
just
don't
know
how
many
businesses
on
our
corridors
are
sit
down,
restaurants
or
take
out
restaurants.
How
many
are
beauty,
salons
or
nail,
salons
or
corner
groceries?
We
don't
know
what
language
their
business
owner
is
speaks,
so
we
don't
necessarily
always
know
what
materials
need
to
be
translated
or
what
interpreters
need
to
be
available.
H
The
other
thing
I
want
to
acknowledge,
of
course,
is,
as
everybody
knows,
rents
come
due
right.
Some
of
these
grant
programs
have
been
helpful
and
helping
the
business
owners
pay
back,
rent
or
stay
on
top
of
rent
or
pay
partial
rent,
but
those
resources
are
running
out.
H
You
know
they've
gotten
them
by
month
by
month,
five
thousand
bucks
here-
five
thousand
bucks
there,
but
you
know
at
a
time
when
their
revenues
are
significantly
down
being
able
to
work
with
their
landlords
to
come
up
with
payment
agreements
or
renegotiate
leases
is
a
complicated
system,
because
banks
sometimes
can
be
involved
that
own
the
mortgages
on
those
properties.
H
So
it
really
a
comprehensive
thought
about
how
we're
going
to
help
these
business
owners
and
the
landlords
that,
on
those
properties
that
are
sometimes
small,
business
owners
themselves
kind
of
get
through
this.
This
situation-
and
the
other
thing,
I
think,
is
a
big
challenge
for
our
commercial
corridors
is
in
the
past.
In
order
to
drive
foot
traffic
to
the
quarters,
they
relied
on
lots
of
events
and
festivals
that
we
just
can't
do
anymore.
H
So
we
need
to
really
rethink
how
we
market
these
corridors,
to
bring
business
back,
to
bring
shoppers
back
and
to
keep
them
vibrant
and
then.
Finally,
I
want
to
just
mention
vacancy
is
going
to
be
a
huge
challenge.
It's
still
too
early
to
know
what
we're
looking
at,
how
many
businesses
will
or
won't
reopen
and
again
that's
it.
We
have
that
data
challenge
of
not
really
knowing
who
has
or
hasn't
reopened
in
any
sort
of
centralized
way,
and
so
I
think
that's
a
challenge
and
we
really
need
a
multi-pronged
strategy.
H
That's
going
to
be
different
on
every
corridor.
I
think
one
part
of
that
strategy
is
figuring
out
how
to
take
advantage
of
the
moment
where
we
may
see
more
vacancy
to
increase
local
ownership
of
those
properties
and
ownership
by
businesses
of
color.
The
other,
I
think,
challenge
but
is
also
an
opportunity,
is
when
those
spaces
become
vacant,
there's
an
opportunity
for
rehab
and
repair
to
make
them
and
put
them
in
way
better
condition
than
they
were
before
and
get
them
rental
ready.
We
don't
really
have
a
lot
of
resources
to
do
that.
H
So
that's
a
huge
challenge
and
then
I
think
also
connecting
our
entrepreneurship
programs
with
kind
of
retail
recruitment
on
our
corridors,
so
we're
moving
folks
that
want
to
start
new
businesses
or
are
starting
new
businesses
and
really
encouraging
them
to
do
a
brick
and
mortar
business
on
our
quarter.
I
think
is
another
kind
of
connection
I
think
can
be
made
a
little
bit
stronger
and,
as
you
all
know,
capital
access
for
businesses
owned
by
people
of
color.
H
It
continues
to
be
a
challenge
whether
it's
a
new
business
or
an
existing
business,
and
I
know
many
of
you
have
been
working
on
that
for
a
while.
So
I
want
to
close
just
by
saying
a
few
things
that
we're
doing
in
addition
to
working
with
commerce
and
lisk.
On
that
data
program,
we
have
also
rolled
out
a
pilot
program
on
four
commercial
corridors
that
is
creating
a
kind
of
data
management
program
to
both
collect
and
analyze
and
evaluate
that
data.
H
A
whole
bunch
of
different
points
of
data
from
who
owns
the
building
to
what
kind
of
business
is
in
there,
how
many
employees
they
have
a
whole
range
of
other
things.
We
are
about
to
launch
an
onboarding
program
for
new
commercial
corridor
managers
to
help
prepare
them
for
the
work
that
they're
about
to
do
in
this
incredibly
new
environment.
It's
a
kind
of
corridor
management
than
they
had
done
before,
and
so
we
really
want
to
prepare
them
to
be
the
best
professionals.
H
They
can
be
to
support
our
businesses
strongly
and
then,
similarly,
we're
about
to
launch
this
will
probably
all
be
in
january,
actually
due
to
launch
a
learn.
It
kind
of
problem
solving
learning
lab
where
we'll
bring
some
of
the
most
exp
more
experienced
quarter,
managers
together
to
grapple
with
these
issues
like
what
do
we
do
that?
There's
we
can't
do
any
more
festivals
and
events.
H
What
do
we
do
when
you
know
other
kind
of
covid
related
challenges
like
access
to
e-commerce
are
continue
to
be
real
big
challenges
on
our
corridors
and
I'll
close
by
just
mentioning
in
case
no
one
has
mentioned
it
already.
The
federal
reserve
bank
of
philadelphia
is
putting
out
a
survey.
H
I
think
it's
deadline
is
october
31st
to
try
to
gather
some
more
data
from
our
small
businesses,
and
the
merchants
fund
is
encouraging,
and
I
think,
if
I
understand
commerce
is
also
participating
in
this
pacdc
and
lisk
to
all
use
the
same
survey
link,
because
if
we
get
a
certain
number
of
businesses
using
that
same
link
to
fill
out
survey,
we'll
get
access
to
the
data
which
I
think
will
be
really
useful
for
us
here
in
philly.
So
I
can
share
that.
P
Link
my
testimony,
I'm
the
philadelphia
campaign
manager
for
penn
future,
and
we
are
a
statewide
environmental
advocacy
organization.
Our
team
is
working
daily
to
protect
public
health
and
restore
and
protect
natural
resources
and
move
pennsylvania
toward
it
towards
a
clean
energy
future.
P
What
this
pandemic
has
really
exposed
is
the
fragile
foundation
that
our
political
economy
has
been
built
upon
and
the
reliance
on
fossil
fuels
that
has
really
led
to
the
divestment
of
our
neighborhoods
and
historic
neglect
during
the
pandemic
penn
future,
we
we
spent
time
producing
a
platform
for
a
green
stimulus
and
economic
recovery
from
covid19
which
focuses
on
opportunities
to
invest
in
the
environment
and
invest
in
the
green
economy
in
order
to
recover
what
covett
also
exposes
that
our
communities
are
not
prepared
to
respond
to
the
climate
crisis
we
saw,
flooding
occur
during
heavy
storms
in
neighborhoods
of
eastwick
and
communities
are
still
struggling
to
recover
from
the
flooding
and
also
we
know
that
neighborhoods
of
hunting
park
and
point
breeze
continue
to
struggle
under
the
urban
heat
island
effect,
which
is
really
the
cause
caused
by
redlining,
but
it
has
been,
but
the
urban
heat
island
effect
has
been
created
by
a
over
density
of
asphalt,
pavement
and
roofs,
and
a
lack
of
trees
and
green
space
in
those
communities
we're
under
a
22
degree,
temperature
difference
during
high
heat
month,
and
so
when
we
think
about
recovering
from
covet,
we
know
we
need
to
grow
our
local
economy
by
investing
in
green
space
and.
O
P
And
so
there
are
ways
that
this
is
happening
in
our
city
currently,
and
we
can
continue
to
focus
on
these
strategies
to
help
us
recover.
One
of
those
approaches
that
I
just
want
to
highlight
today
is
the
success
that
the
city
has
had
with
the
green
city
clean
waters
program
that
is
being
run
by
the
water
department.
P
This
is
a
program
that
is
relies
on
partnerships
with
businesses
with
nonprofits
with
environmental
communities,
and
it
is
an
innovative
approach
to
stormwater
management
over
the
course
of
the
program
since
2011
it
has
created
over
a
thousand
jobs
for
the
city,
and
it
has
an
89
million
dollar
economic
impact
annually
and
and
it's
also
investing
in
historically
neglected
neighborhoods,
and
this
is
when
we
know
this-
you
know
it
it's
investing
in
green
space
by
and
reducing
the
impacts
of
the
urban
heat
island
effect,
and
we
know
that
investment
in
green
space
improves
the
quality
of
life,
creates
access
to
opportunities
for
recreation
which
are
so
needed
right
now
during
covet
and
reduces
crime
and
blight,
because
also
along
with
creating
jobs.
P
There
are
programs
in
the
city
like
the
power
corps,
phl
that
is
providing
job
opportunity,
paths
for
youth
and
re-entering
this
returning
citizen.
P
However,
the
water
department
and
water
utilities
across
the
country
have
been
hit
hardest
by
19..
They
have
enacted
moratoriums
on
water
shutoffs,
knowing
that
water
is
a
essential
public
service.
P
A
loss
of
revenue
and
nationwide
water
utilities
have
experienced
an
impact
of
27
billion
dollars
so
require
growing.
The
green
economy
really
requires
a
thoughtful
consideration
into
our
priorities
as
a
city
and
considering
how
we're
going
to
incorporate
innovative
financing
mechanisms
to
grow
the
green
economy.
P
Mechanisms
like
the
creation
of
a
green
bank
or
green
bonds
in
future,
is
currently
participating
in
a
study
with
the
maryland
university
of
maryland
environmental
finance
center
to
investigate
and
research
strategies
for
creative
financing
opportunities
for
green
stormwater
infrastructure
for
the
city,
and
we
look
forward
to
presenting
those
to
this
body
in
2021,
and
we
also
know
that
recovery
can't
place
a
heavy
burden
on
residents
or
rely
on
austerity
measures.
P
City
council
can
work
with
the
federal
government
to
call
for
a
stimulus
for
sustainability
and
water
infrastructure
funding.
Up
until
this
point,
there
has
been
no
stimulus
funding
for
water
infrastructure
and
we
need
to
work
with
our
federal
delegation
in
order
to
access
those
stimulus
dollars
for
our
water
utilities
and
also
at
the
state
legislature.
The
green
stimulus
for
recovery
platform
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning
is
a
state
is,
is
focused
on
state-level
actions
that
can
be
taken
with
our
delegation
in
harrisburg.
P
So
partnering
with
our
state
delegation
to
to
advance
strategies
for
a
green
economy
are
important
to
our
city's
overall
recovery
from
the
corota
virus,
and
I'd
be
happy
to
share
with
this
this
platform
with
all
of
you.
So
I
just
like
to
propose
by
restating
our
support
for
local
green
economy
strategies
to
address
the
crises
that
we
are
currently
facing
by
investing
in
the
people
and
neighborhoods
of
philadelphia,
and
thank
you
again
for
this
opportunity
to
speak.
A
Thank
you
both
for
your
testimony.
I
think
both
of
your
information
and
the
remarks
you
provided
really
highlight.
Some
of
the
things
I
talked
about
regarding
resolve,
resilience,
return,
reimagination
and
reform.
A
I
think
from
the
work
that
ms
mcconnell
you're
doing
with
philadelphia
association
cdcs
is
really
helping
a
lot
of
our
small
neighborhood
based
businesses
on
our
commercial
corridors
really
trying
to
get
through
this
issue
of
covid
from
that
lens
of
you
know,
resolve
and
resilience
and
return,
and
ms
smith
and
your
commentary
really
made
me
think
about
some
of
the
reimagination
and
reform
that
we
need
to
do
and
how
covet
has
had
such
an
impact.
A
My
sister
is
a
physician
in
california,
she's,
a
geriatrician,
and
when
you
had
the
massive
wildfires
that
were
occurring
in
california
and
when
we
have
a
pandemic
like
covet
and
people
have
to
be
outside,
but
you
can
be
outside,
because
the
air
quality
is
so
poor
based
on
the
massive
wildfires
that
gives
additional
thoughts,
how
we
need
to
reimagine
as
we
move
forward
and
deal
with
some
of
the
environmental
issues
that
you
talked
about.
So
I
thank
both
of
you
for
your
testimony.
A
F
F
Right
now,
I
think
we're
in
a
vulnerable
space
on
many
of
my
corridors,
I
already
had
a
lot
of
speculation,
and
so
it's
sort
of
a
prime
time
for
investors
that
you
know
could
be
from
anywhere
to
kind
of
swoop
in
grab
properties
and
fill
them
with
uses
that
don't
meet
the
vision
that
the
community
has
for
the
corridor
or
the
needs
of
the
people
who
live
in
the
in
the
area,
and
I-
and
so
I
think
it
will
be
important
for
us
to
mo
work
with
our
cdcs
and
mobilize
some
capital
so
that
we
can
control
more
of
the
properties,
particularly
key
properties
where
we
can
get
anchor
businesses
in
that
will
really
help
to
advance
corridors,
and
so
I
don't
have
a
ready-made
solution
to
that.
F
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I'd
be
very
interested
in
working
with
pacdc
and
commerce
on
on
a
solution,
and
I
think
that
issue
is
is
really
critical.
F
One
thing
that
strikes
me:
I've
been
going
around
and
visiting
a
lot
of
the
small
businesses
on
my
corridors
and
following
the
the
civil
unrest,
and
one
thing
that
strikes
me
is
that
we
have
businesses
that
have
such
unique
products
and
services,
and
I
think
they
would
really
benefit
from
online
marketing.
But
they
don't
have.
You
know
a
knowledge
of
the
technology,
nor
do
they
have
staff
to
really
assist
them
with
an
online
marketing
strategy
on
a
consistent
basis.
F
So
I
wanted
to
know
like
has
pacdc
and
others
been
thinking
about
this
issue,
particularly
as
foot
traffic
is
way
down
right,
but
I
just
continue
to
believe
that
we
could
be
doing
more
to
help
these
these
businesses
to
reach
consumers
that
that
really
would
you
know,
want
to
patronize
them.
So
please
discuss
any
any
discussions
that
you've
been
having
in
that
area.
H
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that.
I'd
love
to
comment
on
both
issues
so
on
the
e-commerce
issue,
we've
definitely
identified
the
significant
need
for
a
kind
of
one-on-one
business
technical
assistance.
I
think
the
way
that
we've
done
and
I'm
so
glad
you
brought
this
up,
because
I
forgot
to
mention
this:
the
way
that
we've
done
business,
technical
assistance
has
is
pre-covered
right.
It's
a
different
model
where
we
have
a
number
of
rfps
that
we
put
out
and
entities
reply
to
them
and
say
this
is
the
expertise
I
have.
H
I
can
offer
commerce
contracts
with
those
entities
and
it's
really
a
referral
system.
So
we
got
to
get
the
business
to
call
the
technical
assistance
provider,
the
right
technical
assistance
provider
that
can
provide
what
they
need
and
that's
there's
many
of
them.
So
sometimes
that
can
be
a
little
bit
of
a
process.
There's
real
value
in
a
system
like
that,
but
I
think
we
also
need
a
system,
that's
a
little
bit
more
proactive,
and
that
includes
ta
providers
that
can
help
people
do
e-commerce,
get
them
online
and
reach
the
customers.
H
As
you
pointed
out,
we
also
need
folks
that
can
help
people
with
lease
negotiations,
which
was
not
in.
As
much
of
I
mean
it
was
it's
always
been
an
issue,
but
it's
just
one
that
we've
never
been
able
to
address,
and
it's
a
bigger
issue
now
other
kinds
of
legal
assistance
and
legal
representation
which
we
haven't
done
through
the
btap
program
in
the
past.
H
So
we
have
been
working
with
commerce
and
actually
trying
to
raise
some
money
to
see
if
we
could,
from
federal
sources,
expand
the
btap
program
to
be
more
proactive
in
that
way
and
specifically
proactive
with
e-commerce.
It
hasn't
materialized
yet,
but
we're
still
working
on
it.
H
So
so
I
so
I
raised
that
point-
and
I
also
I
forgot
to
mention-
we've
also
been
in
communication
with
the
commerce
court,
with
judge
gary
blaser
about
making
this
part
of
a
whole
system
to
help
businesses
that
have
other
forms
of
debt,
whether
it's
back
rent
back
mortgage
suppliers.
You
know
other
things:
a
combination
of
kind
of
legal
assistance
and
business,
technical
assistance
to
help
them
and
leverage
the
new
commerce
court
process.
H
So
they're
not
just
going
in
there
trying
to
negotiate
with
their
debtors
without
any
help,
but
that
we're
building
a
whole
system
around
and
that's
modeled
on
the
mortgage,
foreclosure
and
eviction
diversion
programs
with
all
the
kind
of
wrap
around
support.
The
last
thing
I'll
say
just
about
the
the
ownership
building
ownership
and
vacancy.
There
are
a
couple
products
out
there.
I
pidc
has
one
to
help.
Small
businesses
buy
their
buildings.
Commerce
has
put
one
out
to
help
cdcs
purchase
buildings
on
corridor,
so
they
can
be
the
landlord
and
be
thoughtful
about.
H
You
know:
affordable
rents
and
the
right
retail
mix,
but
I
would
say
another
thing:
that's
really
needed.
We
have
a
limited
number
of
cdc's
that
have
the
capacity
to
actually
do
property
management.
That
know
you
know
how
you
collect
the
rent
and
how
you
do
the
maintenance
and
so
there's
also
kind
of
a
need
to
build
capacity
there,
so
that
more
of
them
can
can
come
into
that.
That
role
too,
and
the
resources
that
are
out
there
that
commerce
has
in
pidc
has
are
are
useful,
but
not
enough
right.
H
So
we
definitely
need
more
because
there's
enough
to
buy
a
couple
buildings,
but
probably
not
a
lot
more
than
that,
and
I
also
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
I
I'd
love
to
have
a
longer
conversation
with
the
land
bank
and
council
about
what
role
a
land
bank
can
play
in
commercial
property
acquisition,
because
they've
been
very
focused
on
residential
and
the
commercial
has
been
kind
of
we're
not
there.
Yet
it's
not
the
only
tool
right,
because
a
lot
of
the
properties
are
in
private
ownership
that
aren't
tax
delinquent.
H
So
it
might
it's
not
the
tool
for
everything,
but
we
need
all
the
tools
right
and
and
some
kind
of
coordinated
strategy.
So
thank
you
for
those
those
comments
and
questions.
F
Thank
you.
I
would
love
to
have
a
longer
conversation
offline
about
everything
that
you
just
discussed,
because
I
think
our
the
businesses
in
my
district
could
benefit
from
from
all
of
that.
So
look
forward
to
working
together.
A
G
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
chairman,
and
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
both
for
your
testimony,
but
especially
thank
lena
and
penn
future
for
your
advocacy
and
for
your
continued
partnership
in
helping
us
think
through
how
we
will
build
a
resilient
green
economy
postcoded
in
philadelphia,
but
also
for
highlighting
how
years
of
divestment
has
really
led
to
a
disproportionate
impact,
negative
impact
for
our
most
vulnerable
communities
throughout
the
city
for
individuals
and
communities
who
are
facing
the
effects
of
covet
19..
G
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
on
the
record
to
thank
you
and
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
you
and
with
pin
future
as
a
part
of
our
citizen
environmental
advisory
groups
for
our
subcommittees
with
the
committee
on
environment.
So
thank
you
very,
very
much
for
all
of
your
work
and
just
for
your
continued
partnership
and
helping
us
think
this
through.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
A
Thank
you,
council,
member
and
thank
you,
miss
mcconnell
smith
for
your
testimony
and
your
continued
advocacy
and
work
in
this
space
as
we
continue
to
move
forward
through
this
pandemic
and
helping
our
local
economy.
At
this
point,
I
would
like
to
call
our
final
panel,
which
is
silly
guy
howard,
our
acting
commerce,
director
and
and
bavarian
evans
from
pidc.
A
A
I
know
both
of
you
have
been
very
active
in
trying
to
raise
money
to
have
small
businesses
and
even
launch,
which
I
think
is
one
of
the
nation's
first
small
business
recovery
initiative,
which
was
the
phl
cobra
19
loan
and
grant
fund
various
colleagues
from
national
league
cities,
where
I
served
as
a
board
member
and
other
organizations
which
I'm
involved
in
had
had
interests
and
reached
out.
A
Regarding
that
program,
and
then
we
sort
of
got
behind
the
eight
ball
and
other
jurisdictions
were
able
to
kind
of
move
more
ahead
of
us.
In
particular,
I
made
reference
to
montgomery
county
last
week
and
how
they
allocated
10
million
dollars
from
their
federal
cares
dollars
to
augment
the
state
initiative
that
jim
burnett
and
dan
bennett
court
talked
about
earlier
in
this
hearing.
A
But
I
have
to
commend
the
administration,
because,
the
day
after
that,
hearing
with
councilmember
dom
our
acting
commerce
director
announced
a
20
million
allotment
of
our
federal
cares
dollars
towards
that
initiative.
A
Now,
in
earlier
part
of
our
hearing,
what
mr
burnett
and
mr
better
court
talked
about
is
that
for
us
to
be
comparable
to
our
other
counties,
we
would
probably
need
to
identify
another
60
million
dollars
from
those
federal
cares
dollars.
So
we'll
be
continuing
to
look
for
information
from
our
finance
director
to
see
how
those
federal
care
styles
will
be
allocated.
I
know
the
numbers
are
shifting,
but
we
also
have
to
spend
the
money
by
the
end
of
december.
A
So
I
just
want
to
thank
both
of
you
for
your
leadership,
not
only
with
the
phl
cover,
19,
small
business
grant
and
relief
fund.
I
know
we
spent
many
long
days
and
then
had
monday
evening
calls
on
a
regular
basis
at
7
30
p.m.
A
couple
times
a
week
for
a
couple
weeks
and
helping
to
raise
money
for
that.
So
I
thank
both
of
you
for
your
efforts
and
also
your
advocacy
on
behalf
of
small
businesses
in
our
city.
D
Thank
you
councilman.
I
guess.
Should
I
go
first,
all
right
so
good
morning,
chairperson
square
chairperson,
green
members
of
the
joint
committee
on
finance
and
commerce
and
economic
development,
my
name
is
sylvie
gallier
howard
and
I'm
the
acting
director
of
commerce.
D
Thank
you
for
having
me
here
today
to
provide
testimony
on
resolution
200-336
regarding
philadelphia's,
safe,
equitable
and
robust
economic
recovery
from
the
covet
19
pandemic.
The
kova
19
pandemic
is
a
public
health
crisis
which
has
precipitated
an
economic
crisis.
That
is,
unlike
anything,
we've
seen
in
our
lifetimes.
D
Throughout
the
last
six
months,
millions
of
americans
have
gone
on
unemployment,
while
businesses
have
struggled
to
survive
and
many
have
closed
permanently.
This
crisis
has
also
had
a
devastating
impact
on
the
city's
ability
to
serve
its
residents,
creating
an
unprecedented
749
million
dollar
hole
in
the
city's
fy21
operating
budget.
D
While
there
are
some
signs
that
things
are
beginning
to
improve
from
where
we
were
this
spring,
we're
not
through
this
crisis
yet,
and
the
reality
is
that
our
economic
recovery
will
not
happen
overnight
or
in
the
v
shape
that
economists
had
hoped
for
early
on
here
in
philadelphia.
The
total
of
non-farm
payroll
jobs
stood
at
680
000
in
august
of
this
year.
The
good
news
is
that
is.
D
This
is
up
from
the
nader
of
this
crisis
in
april,
when
we
had
only
651
000
jobs,
but
it's
70
000
jobs,
fewer
than
we
had
in
february
at
70,
000
jobs
right
before
this
crisis
hit
and
50
000
jobs
fewer
than
we
had
one
year
ago.
Sadly,
our
unemployment
rate
continues
to
climb
the
most
recent
statistic.
D
Actually,
in
my
testimony
it
says
the
most
recent
statistic
is
available
from
july,
but
it
I
actually
just
got
august,
which
is
at
15.4
unemployment
for
philadelphia
in
august.
That
is
still
about
a
three-fold
increase
from
where
we
were
before
the
crisis.
I
mentioned
the
last
time
that
I
was
here
in
august
that
when
we
look
at
unemployment
claims,
we
see
a
troubling
and
continuous
30
percentage
point
disparity
between
black
and
white
claimants.
D
This
is
a
painful
reminder
that
when
an
economic
crisis
hits
the
most
vulnerable
among
us
bear
the
brunt.
This
is
where
we
stand
today,
but
this
isn't
where
we'll
always
be
working
together,
we
can
and
will
emerge
with
an
economy
that
is
more
resilient,
more
inclusive
and
more
equitable
than
ever
before,
and
the
way
that
we'll
do,
that
is
by
continuing
to
pursue
the
goals
and
objectives
outlined
in
our
2019
inclusive
growth
strategy,
as
well
as
implementing
on
the
four
pillar
inclusive
recovery
plan
that
we
released
on
september
10th.
D
I
also
want
to
highlight
some
of
the
actions
that
have
been
taken
since
we
last
met
in
august.
The
city
committed,
as
you
mentioned,
an
additional
20
million
dollars
in
cares
funding
to
the
pa,
statewide
small
business
relief
program
to
help
small
businesses
in
philadelphia,
whether
the
continuing
effects
of
the
pandemic.
D
This
is
obviously
a
significant
sum,
and
we
expect
to
support
about
one
thousand
businesses
and
the
average
grant
size
will
be
between
fifteen
thousand
and
twenty
thousand
per
business.
We
thank
this
body
for
your
leadership
of
this
effort.
It's
important
to
note
that,
with
this
allocation,
the
city
has
now
committed
more
than
33
million
dollars
to
small
business
relief.
Representing
10
percent
of
the
city's
total
cares
funding
and
will
help
save
businesses
and
protect
thousands
of
jobs.
D
We
put
out
a
500
000
call
for
proposals
for
our
initiative,
called
philadelphia,
most
diverse
tech
hub
to
invert,
to
increase
diversity
in
technology
and
connect
philadelphians
to
opportunities
in
this
field.
The
department
of
commerce
will
be
investing
in
ideas
that
train
prepare
and
connect
black
and
brown
people
to
careers
in
tech,
while
also
supporting
underrepresented
founders
and
strengthening
partnerships
between
local
colleges
and
universities,
as
well
as
historically
black
colleges
and
universities
and
tech
companies.
D
The
department
of
commerce
has
been
involved
in
fostering
a
number
of
important
economic
wins
for
philadelphia
in
recent
weeks,
including
securing
hilco's
commitment
to
convert
the
site
of
the
old
refinery
to
a
state
of
the
art
art
logistics
hub,
while
also
supporting
cte
education
in
the
school
district
contracting
with
more
minority
owned
businesses
and
creating
nineteen
thousand
jobs
over
the
next
ten
years.
Similarly,
development
deals
at
penn's
landing
in
the
navy
yard,
continue
to
attract
significant
investment
to
philadelphia
working
interdepartmentally.
D
I
know
this
came
up
earlier.
We've
established
a
business
response
team
to
help
solve
complex
problems
and
address
industry-wide
concerns
that
businesses
have
businesses
should
continue
to
use
the
office
of
businesses.
Service
office
of
business
services
as
the
point
of
contact
and
issues
will
be
escalated
to
the
business
service.
Business
response
team
as
necessary.
D
Obs
can
be
reached
by
emailing
business
at
philadelp
or
calling
683-2100.
But,
as
I
said,
our
recovery
won't
happen
overnight
and
it's
critical.
We
think
about
laying
the
foundation
that
will
foster
resiliency
and
growth
in
the
long
term.
This
can
only
happen
through
partnership
and
collaboration
with
the
private
sector
and
our
region.
That's
why
the
department
of
commerce
is
proud
to
partner
closely
in
the
chamber's
regional,
recharge
and
recovery
task
force,
as
well
as
the
equitable
entrepreneurship
assessment
and
strategy,
led
by
the
united
way,
a
southeastern
pa
and
southern
new
jersey
and
the
workforce.
D
Respawn
recharge
plan
with
philadelphia
works
like
so
many
other
places
around
the
world.
The
kova
19
pandemic
has
had
a
devastating
in
some
ways.
Life-Altering
economic
impact
on
philadelphia,
but
philadelphia
has
overcome
major
obstacles
before
and
we've
always
been
a
place
of
resilience
and
innovation.
We
can
channel
that
ingenuity,
tenacity
and
can-do
spirit
to
tackle
these
new
challenges
head-on
and
we'll
be
laser
focused
about
making
our
city
a
better,
more
inclusive
place.
It
won't
be
easy.
D
E
Good
morning,
chairperson
greene
and
members
of
the
joint
committee,
my
name
is
anne
bovared
nevins
and
I'm
the
president
of
the
philadelphia
industrial
development
corporation
or
pidc.
I
also
want
to
thank
and
acknowledge
both
council
member
jones
and
councilmember
johnson
for
their
service
on
our
board
of
directors.
E
As
the
resolution
calling
for
this
hearing
has
noted,
the
impact
of
the
coronavirus
pandemic
on
philadelphia's
citizens
and
small
businesses
was
sudden,
severe
and
widespread
and
that
this
burden
was
not
evenly
distributed,
but
rather
has
been
significantly
greater
for
our
black
and
brown
citizens.
Our
historically
disadvantaged
businesses,
and
also
our
young
people.
E
E
As
I
noted
in
my
prior
testimony
before
this
committee
in
august,
pidc
is
approaching
our
covet
19
economic
recovery
strategies
through
the
lens
of
our
vision
for
a
philadelphia
economy
that
is
growing,
diversified
and
inclusive
in
order
to
achieve
a
high
quality
of
life.
For
all
those
who
live
and
work
here,
you
have
heard
previously
from
me
as
well
as
just
now
from
sylvie
about
our
four
phases
of
work
to
drive
an
equitable
economic
recovery
in
philadelphia
and
those
four
phases
are
respond.
Restart
recharge
and
reimagine.
E
E
We
published
that
plan
on
our
website
and
have
been
reporting
out
monthly
to
our
stakeholders
and
to
the
public,
via
our
newsletter
blog
and
social
media,
on
some
of
the
key
actions
that
we
are
taking
to
help
restart
philadelphia's
economy.
I'd
like
to
offer
a
specific
example
from
that
restart
action
plan.
In
the
plan
we
committed
to
deploy
flexible
and
affordable
capital
to
small
and
mid-sized
businesses,
with
a
specific
focus
on
black
and
brown-owned
businesses
and
those
located
in
low-income
communities
to
support
reopening
or
adapting
their
business
practices.
E
To
date,
we've
invited
over
120
businesses
to
apply
of
these
50
are
black
or
african
american
owned
20
are
asian
or
asian
american
owned
and
15
are
hispanic-owned.
Nearly
half
of
those
businesses
are
women
owned.
These
requests
were
prioritized
and
invited
to
apply
based
on
the
census,
tract
and
demographic
information,
and
the
businesses
are
located
in
areas
with
an
average
poverty
rate
of
34.
E
So
far,
pidc
has
approved
seven
restart
loans,
totaling
about
one
million
dollars
in
capital,
which
four
are
black
owned.
Businesses,
one
is
a
hispanic-owned
business
and
five
are
owned
or
co-owned
by
women.
An
additional
three
loans
for
375
000
are
being
presented
for
approval
this
week
and
an
additional
24
loans.
Totaling
4.2
million
dollars
are
in
our
underwriting
pipeline
and
these
numbers
will
continue
to
grow
as
the
first
rounds
of
applications
are
received
and
processed.
E
At
the
same
time,
pidc
specifically
through
our
cdfi
pidc
community
capital
has
been
actively
participating
in
the
statewide
coalition
that
is,
delivering
the
coca-19
release.
Pennsylvania,
small
business
assistance
program.
This
program,
which
is
the
one
you
heard
about
earlier
this
morning,
developed
in
partnership
with
17
cdfis
across
the
commonwealth
and
leveraging
the
many
lessons
that
pidc
had
learned
from
administering
the
small
business
or
refund,
and
partnership
with
the
city
for
philadelphia,
has
prioritized
businesses
owned
by
low-income
people.
E
Businesses
located
in
communities
with
high
poverty
and
high
unemployment,
as
well
as
the
types
of
businesses
that
were
hardest
hit
by
the
pandemic.
As
you
heard
earlier
to
date,
more
than
20
million
has
been
committed
to
more
than
1100
philadelphia,
businesses
of
which
75
are
going
to
historically
disadvantage
businesses.
E
We,
as
a
network,
will
be
announcing
the
second
round
of
grants
shortly,
but
we
know
already
that
there
continues
to
be
a
significant
gap
in
the
demand
specifically
for
these
types
of
resources
for
philadelphia
businesses.
We
greatly
appreciate
the
additional
20
million
dollars
in
cares,
act,
funding
that
the
city
of
philadelphia
is
contributing
to
this
program,
specifically
to
go
to
philadelphia
businesses,
and
we
thank
city,
council
and
the
commerce
department
for
their
strong
support
of
this
effort.
E
We
have
actually
one
thing
I
wanted
to
note
about.
The
pennsylvania
cdfi
network
in
the
statewide
program
is
that
my
colleague
at
pidc,
who
has
our
marketing
team,
has
served
as
the
chair
of
the
communications
committee
for
that
group
and
has
been
working
tirelessly
across
the
state
in
partnership
with
all
of
the
other
cdfis,
to
promote
the
program.
E
One
of
our
responsibilities
in
managing
the
communications
committee,
including
launching
and
administering
the
statewide
website,
at
pabusgrants.com,
for
which
we
engaged
tactile
group,
which
is
a
philadelphia
based
black
owned
web
development
business,
but
also
as
a
pidc
client,
while
many
of
philadelphia's
businesses
continue
to
need
our
help
right
now
to
respond
to
the
impact
of
the
pandemic
and
restart
or
pivot
their
operations.
We
are
also
looking
ahead
to
the
role
that
pidc
can
play
in
recharging
and
reimagining
philadelphia's
economic
future.
E
A
Look
at
for
your
testimony.
I
see
both
council
members
dumb
and
jones
have
questions
as
well
as
councilmember
again.
One
thing
that
covet
has
definitely
brought
about
in
a
somewhat
interesting
way.
Is
I'll
call
it
the
supremacy
of
the
letter
r
in
the
alphabet,
and
I
say
that
because
mackenzie
as
I
may,
reference
earlier
used
a
resolve,
resilience,
return,
reimagination
and
reform
metric
in
reference
to
cobit
and
economic
recovery.
A
The
greater
philadelphia
chamber
of
commerce,
as
you
heard
earlier,
has
a
recharge
and
recovery
task
force
and,
from
my
perspective,
the
plan
that
the
city
has
from
both
commerce
and
pidc
is
a
re,
respond,
restart
and
reimagine
plan
to
come
out
of
covet
and
so
based
on
all
that
alliteration
with
ours.
We'll
we'll
stick
to
the
respond.
A
Restarting
re
reimagination
plan
that
we're
talking
about
now
from
both
commerce
and
pidc,
as
the
city's
plan
to
come
out
of
covet,
and
so
I
and
you
talked
about
some
of
the
things
you're
doing.
I
guess
my
my
question
is
looking
at
and
I
think
councilman
sanchez
touched
on
this
as
well.
A
So,
as
we
look
to
the
next
budget
process-
and
I
know
the
vast
departments
are
about
to
now-
start
on
that,
what
would
be
your
thoughts
going
forward
and
how
we
help
businesses
continue
to
grow
out
of
this
pandemic.
Even
though
we
have
no
very
limited
resources
to
do
all
that,
we
would
like
to
do,
but
don't
have
the
ability
to
do
so.
D
Okay,
if
I
can
start
with
that,
I
did
want
to
respond
also
what
you
said
earlier
councilman.
So
I
just
just
to
sort
of
clarify
a
little
bit.
We
started
talking
about
whether
or
not
we
should
do
more
provide
more
funding
for
small
businesses
after
the
first
round
that
was
launched
in
march.
D
We
started
talking
about
whether
we
should
have
another
round
early
early
in
the
summer,
and
then
the
state
launched
the
initiative
with
the
cdfi
coalition
and
when
we
heard
that
was
getting
off
the
ground,
it
was
actually
intentional
and
strategic
to
not
launch
our
own
thing
and
to
see
if
we
should
piggyback
and
support
the
state's
program.
If
it
was
successful
so
well,
it
might
seem
that
we
were
behind
the
eight
ball.
D
We
were
actually
waiting
in
the
wings
sort
of
ready
to
do
something
once
we
we
knew
more
about
the
results
of
that
program,
and
and
that's
why
we
you
know,
certainly
you
know
the
the
support
that
you
all
were
and
your
encouragement
was
was
helpful,
but
we,
you
know,
we
knew
we
needed
to
do
something.
I
was
certainly
having
those
conversations
and
ann
was
having
those
conversations
and.
H
D
Us
were
our
partners
as
well,
and
as
jim
brunette
mentioned,
we
have
weekly
phone
calls,
so
we
we
were
really
really
aware
of
the
demand
and
what
the
cdfis
have
been
facing
and
and
hearing
from
the
business
community.
So
I
think,
moving
forward.
So
the
thing
it's
actually
respond,
restart
recharge,
reimagine,
it's
a
four-point
plan
and-
and
I
think
we're
we-
the
thing
about
the
plan
is
that
it's
not
like
okay
respond
is
over
now
we're
we're
in
restart
mode.
D
D
You
know-
or
you
know,
when
there's
rioting,
we're
sort
of
maneuvering
to
respond
to
that
and
whatever
else
you
know
might
happen
in
the
winter,
for
example,
or
when
this
change
is
happening
to
re
to
the
guidelines,
but
nonetheless
we
have
to
be
doing
recharging
and
reimagining
as
well,
and
we
need
to
be
setting
up
all
the
different
types
of
programs
and
supports
for
the
future.
So
that's
why
ann
and
I
are
working
on.
We
have
two
million
dollars
between
the
city
and
pidc
for
a
fun
for
entrepreneurs
of
color.
D
We
would
like
to
grow
that
very
exponentially.
You
know,
100
million
would
be
great,
2
million
is
nowhere
near
enough.
So
we're
talking
about
how
we
do
that.
D
You
know
I
heard
a
lot
about
technical
assistance
earlier
on
in
the
hearing
and
we're
taught
we
have
our
business
technical
assistance
program
we
fund
about
10
or
so
organizations,
and
there
are,
and
they
actually
some
of
them
are
specifically
focused
on
things
like
did.
You
know,
going
building
a
website
or
having
more
of
a
digital
presence,
so
we
we've
changed
that
program
a
little
bit
to
have
a
little
bit
more
niche
areas
across
the
different
agencies
that
provide
technical
assistance
and
we
just
have
to
work
with
our
partners.
D
I
mean
we
have
calls
weekly
with
the
cdfis
the
cdcs,
the
bids.
We
also
convene
a
business
small
business
coordination
meeting
with
the
all
the
minority
chambers
and
philly
startup
leaders,
so
we're
sort
of
always
working
with
our
partners.
I
know
beth
mentioned
the
weekly
calls
we
and
we
can't
do
it
without
working
with
all
of
them.
A
Okay,
no
additional
response
to
that
question.
I'll
open
up
two
questions
from
my
colleagues:
we'll
go
with
councilmember,
dom
then
councilmember
jones
and
then
council.
Member
again
in
that.
C
Order,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
ann
and
sylvie,
and-
and
I
want
to
thank
you
actually
you
for
all
your
help.
You
gave
us
on
the
loan
forbearance
program
early
on
your
team
was
great,
so
thank
you
so
much
for
that
and
sylvia.
C
I
want
to
thank
you
for
taking
all
of
our
many
phone
calls
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
them
doing
this
process
for
various
businesses
and
various
issues
from
I
know
I
texted
you
this
morning
about
you
know
when
the
salons
can
start
doing
facials
again,
but
from
all
the
restaurants
and
a
lot
of
the
restaurants
right
now
are
trying
to
figure
out.
How
do
I
operate
in?
You
know
colder
weather
november
december
january.
C
I
know
that
vancouver
canada
has,
you
know,
has
some
ideas
around
that
and
we'd
like
to
just
come
up
with
some
solutions,
so
we
can
offer
them
because
the
more
lead
time
they
have,
of
course
the
better
it
is
for
them.
So
one
of
the
questions
I
had,
I
don't
know
if
you
have
the
answer
is:
do
we
know
how
many
minority
owned
and
small
businesses
exist
in
the
city?
D
So
I
I
don't
think
we
actually
know
what
the
losses
are.
I
mean
I
we
know
from
the
pew
report.
We
have
a
sense
of
sort
of
the
number
of
businesses,
the
recent
pew
report
that
came
out
and
percentages
and
actually
percentages
that
are
sort
of
new
information
for
us,
like
the
fact
that
six
percent
of
our
businesses
are
black
owned
employers.
D
30
are
black
owned,
but
you
know
not
all
employers.
Four
percent
are
latinx
owned
employers,
13
or
latinx
zone.
Not
just
you
know
sole
proprietors,
so
we
have
some
of
those
types
of
statistics.
I
you
know,
I
don't
think
we
know
yet
in
terms
of
in
you
know,
in
terms
of
racial
demographics,
how
what
we've
lost?
I
don't
think
we
know
yet
what
we've
lost
period,
it's
just
kind
of
too
soon
to
tell
I
can
say
about
the
outdoor
dining.
So
I
mentioned
the
business
response
team.
D
We
have
the
business
response
team
led
by
justine
bulkis
here
at
commerce,
and
I
commend
her.
They
had.
They
had
everyday
calls
at
8
30
with
the
other
departments.
Now
three
times
a
week
and
they've
been
coordinating
all
around.
You
know
indoor
dining
outdoor
dining
all
these
different
things.
We
had
a
call
actually
led
by
philadelphia
with
dozens
of
cities,
including
montreal.
D
So
so
we've
got
a
lot
of
information
about
heat
lamps
and
everything
and
tents
and
all
those
types
of
things
and
we're
coming
up
with
a
plan
for
that.
C
C
It's
so
crucial,
and
I
will
say
this:
I've
come
to
the
conclusion
that
many
corridors
neighborhoods,
whether
it's
52nd
street
germantown
avenue
the
restaurants,
have
become
the
anchor
for
the
other
stores
because
people
go
to
the
restaurants
and
then
either
before
or
after
they
go
shopping,
and
so
it's
a
very
important
part
of
that
whole
neighborhood.
So
thank
you
for
all
you're,
doing,
appreciate
it
and
keep
up
the
good
work.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you.
It's
a
great
hearing.
Thank
you
very
much.
J
J
You
your
response
for
small
businesses,
both
in
commercial
corridors
during
the
epidemic
pandemic,
but
also
during
on
some
of
the
uprisings
and
unfortunate
looting,
were,
were
right
up
front
and
center,
and
I'm
proud
to
be
an
alumni
of
commerce
and
our
current
executive
board.
Member
of
pidc.
J
One
of
the
things
that
was
not
mentioned
as
much
is
the
fact
that
med
week
starts
the
first
week
of
october,
and
it
is
a
time
where
we
recognize
the
contributions
nationally
and
also
locally
of
small
businesses
owned
by
minorities,
females
and
businesses
of
color,
and
we
are
working
in
conjunction
with
you
guys
to
do
a
post-covet
workshop
october
8th
and
it
will
be
the
first
virtual
midweek
workshop.
J
We've
ever
done,
it'll
be
on
channel
64.,
also
mr
chairman,
and
are
looking
for
a
opportunity
both
with
the
greater
philadelphia
chamber
of
commerce
african
american
chamber
of
commerce,
to
highlight
the
evolution
of
certain
businesses
post
covert
in
some
of
the
hearings
that
we've
had
with
septa.
J
For
example,
their
process
of
cleaning
septa
cars
has
changed
pre
and
post
cover,
instead
of
one
cleaning,
maybe
a
a
day,
they're
up
to
three
cleanings
a
day
and
are
looking
at
chemical
treatments
that
have
antimicrobials
within
the
chemicals
that
last
a
week
and
are
looking
at
new
opportunities
that
last
longer
and
the
days
of
the
janitor
with
the
bucket
and
the
rags
in
his
back
pocket
no
longer
exists,
we're
in
a
different
phase
and
as
businesses
evolve,
we
want
those
opportunities
to
present
themselves
to
small
businesses
in
philadelphia,
whether
it
is
the
manufacturing
of
ppe's,
whether
it
is
the
contact
tracing
opportunities
that
are
coming
up.
J
We
want
philadelphia-based
businesses,
minority-based
businesses
that
are
within
your
cadre
mailing
list
loan
portfolio
list
to
look
at
these
opportunities
and
say
yes,
I
can.
We
should
absolutely
never
have
to
rely
on
foreign
governments
for
gowns
for
hospitals
and
mass
for
the
public.
So
as
we
take
this,
mr
chairman,
a
step
further,
we
need
to
evolve
our
small
business
opportunities
and
present
them
to
small
businesses.
J
So
I
just
want
to
echo
what
others
have
said
that
I
I
I
go
back
to
the
alumni
days,
and
this
is
not
our
grandparents
commerce
department,
no,
our
grandparents,
the
ibc
you
guys
have
evolved
and
are
enlightened
to
the
fact
that
inclusive
lending,
inclusive
marketing
and
inclusive
technical
assistance
aren't
just
the
right
thing
to
do.
It's
good
for
business
and-
and
that
is
a
different
mindset
than
has
been
here
for-
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that.
I'm
done
mr
chairman,.
D
J
So
my
nickname
as
a
kid
was
turtle,
and
so
I
could
not
resist.
E
I
want
to
echo
that,
thanks
to
the
councilman
for
your
partnership
on
med
week,
we're
very
excited
about
that
as
well,
and
I
also
want
to
know
that
we
are
also
working
on
another
event
that
will
be
on
the
seventh
with
councilwoman
gilmore,
richardson
and
councilman
johnson.
We
look
forward.
E
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
jones,
for
your
steadfast
ongoing
advocacy
for
med
week
when
you
talked
about
transitions
from
covet.
It
reminded
me
of
the
first
time
we
had
this
joint
hearing,
finance
and
commerce
economic
development.
When
we
had
david
sims
testify
about
his
business.
I've
known
david
since
back
when
I
actually
had
some
hair
when
my
wife
and
I
had
a
retails
shoe
store
on
germanton
avenue
and
david
had
just
started,
and
he
was
doing
catering
events
at
our
store
and
he
was
able
to
transition
quite
successfully
through
covid.
A
He
moved
his
location
from
ridge
avenue
to
wadsworth.
He
does
traditionally
catering,
but
he
transitioned
to
doing
a
lot
of
takeout.
I
know
I've
been
using
him
to
provide
takeout
meals
to
my
parents,
so
your
comments
reminded
me
of
that
reminded
me
of
med
week.
Also,
your
commentary
regarding
scepter
made
me
reflect
on
some
work.
A
I've
been
doing
for
a
number
of
months
as
a
part
of
the
small
and
small
diverse
business
community
task
force,
which
is
being
led
by
kerry
kirkland
from
the
commonwealth
of
pennsylvania
and
mike
brown,
363
360
ci
entrepreneur
based
in
philadelphia
and
florida,
and
is
based
on
his
work
coming
out
of
the
hurricanes
in
florida,
which
he
learned.
A
How
the
federal
task
work
task
work
can
be
used
to
help
grow
businesses,
and
so
we
created
that
small
and
small,
diverse
business
community
task
force
and
we've
been
licensing
a
sanitation
product
working
with
local
businesses
like
adana
alley
from
team
clean
and
a
number
of
other
businesses.
A
We
did
a
demonstration
with
septa
in
probably
mid-spring,
but
we're
also
doing
cleaning
at
the
capitol
complex
and
also
doing
work
in
pittsburgh,
and
it's
been
a
task
force
of
people
from
philadelphia,
harrisburg
and
pittsburgh,
including
some
of
the
people
you're
very
familiar
with,
like
della
clark
and
joanne
bell
and
george
burrell,
and
our
former
commerce
director,
harold
epps.
A
So
even
in
covet
we
can
find
new
ways
to
provide
a
way
to
respond,
restart,
recharge
and
reimagine,
as
the
city
is
doing
through
their
action
plan,
and
so
with
that
I
will
then
transfer
my
microphone
to
councilmember
again
for
her
questions.
I
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman
and
good
afternoon
to
everybody.
I
had
a
couple
of
questions
for
pidc
one.
I
you
know
really
appreciate
the
loan
programs
and
the
effort
to
in
particular
pay
attention
to
small
mid-own-sized
businesses.
I
The
zero
percent
loan
fund
for
small
businesses
is
an
important
assistance,
but
I
did
want
to
like
try
to
see
how,
as
we
look
at
recovery,
you
know
how
we
are
looking
at
things
and
projects
that
pidc
both
backs
and
supports
beyond
just
ownership
of
the
company,
but
that
we're
looking
at
projects
and
other
types
of
things
in
which
we
are
leveraging
the
power
of
public
dollars
and
resources
to
improve
wages,
ensure
quality
conditions
for
for
our
workers
about
how
we
are
also
looking
at
a
diversity
of
resources
that
could,
for
example,
provide
significant
amounts
of
sustainable,
green
new
development
in
communities
that
are
struggling
with
environmental
issues,
support
for
public
schools
and
reimagining
public
school
spaces.
I
You
know,
I
think
it's
notable
that,
for
example,
we've
long
known
about
the
state
of
philadelphia's
public
school
facilities,
but
today
I
think-
or
it
was
just
announced
recently-
that
a
grand
jury
indicted,
the
scranton
school
superintendent
and
their
school
board
for
purposeful
neglect
of
buildings,
and
I
think
we've
gotten
super
cynical
that
somehow,
oh,
this
is
a
matter
of
the
state,
but
these
are
felony
charges
of
neglect,
and
so
we
are
in
a
you
know:
we
we,
as
we
try
to
think
about
recovery.
I
It's
it's
recognizing
that
development
is
beyond
sort
of.
You
know
that
that
there's
a
lot
of
interpretation
of
what
development
is-
and
I
think
it
has
traditionally
been
interpreted
by
many
different
entities.
You
know
pidc
honestly,
has
been
some
of
them
to
perceive
of
large
expensive.
You
know,
but
you
know
we
are
trying
to
think
through
projects
that
invest
in
the
health
and
well-being
of
workers
who
are
philadelphians.
I
We
want
to
ensure
that
going
forward.
They
contribute
to
the
environment,
to
the
state
of
our
schools,
transit
development,
affordable
housing
efforts.
All
of
these
things
certainly
fall
within
your
purview
under
the
definition
of
development.
I
would
assume
so
how
are
you
looking,
for
example,
at
pidc
approved
projects
in
terms
of
like
workforce
improvements
and
higher
wages,
benefits
and
workforce,
hiring
and
diversity.
E
Sure
so
a
few
things
on
that,
and
maybe
if
I
can
just
start
with
a
few
kind
of
project
examples
that
might
help
give
some
context
to
some
of
the
things
that
we
are
doing
and
I
think
what
we
are
committed
to
doing
going
forward
so
looking
backwards,
a
little
bit
in
2019.
So
last,
full
year,
kdc
invested
about
47
million
through
a
variety
of
loans
and
new
market
tax
credit
type
investments
in
projects
throughout
philadelphia.
E
Some
examples
of
those
would
be
golaski
labs,
which
is
a
mixed-use
development
from
mosaic
development
partners.
Minority
owned
development
firm
that
is
located
in
wayne
junction.
Another
is
the
new
construction.
You
mentioned
education
in
the
school
buildings.
Another
was
the
construction
of
the
new
p
slams
school
campus.
That's
co-locating
with
powell
elementary
and
the
science
leadership
academy
middle
school
in
the
pendleton
section
of
the
city.
E
Another
is
the
northeast
philadelphia
campus
for
path,
people
I
think,
to
help
which
is
focused
on
better
serving
individuals
that
need
mental
behavioral
health
or
intellectual
disabilities,
related
services
and
a
new
ceramic
studio
for
the
clay
studio
in
south
kensington.
So
those
are
some
of
the
examples
of
the
types
of
projects
that
we
have
been
investing
our
resources
in
and
that's
dating
back
to
2019,
some
of
the
things
that
we've
approved
more
recently
for
this
year,
kind
of
along
those
same
lines
in
terms
of
our
project.
E
Financing
resources
include
the
new
headquarters
facility
for
supra
emco,
again
minority-owned
business
located
in
west
philadelphia
that
is
going
to
be
building
out
a
new
headquarters
and
creating
a
lot
of
new
jobs.
Another
is
the
cobbs
creek
commons,
which
is
a
mixed
use
project
also
located
in
west
philadelphia.
E
So
those
are
some
of
the
types
of
projects
that
we've
been
focusing
on
in
terms
of
our
real
estate
or
development
financing
resources,
and
we
definitely
are
certainly
focused
on.
I
think
the
things
come
from
that
you
listed
in
terms
of
the
types
of
needs
in
the
community
around
workforce,
training
and
development
quality,
job
opportunities.
Basically,
every
you
know
project
that
we
fund,
whether
it's
a
business
or
whether
it's
development
projects.
We
are
connecting
those
projects
into
the
resources
that
philadelphia
works.
E
That's
a
partnership
that
I've
been
working
a
lot
in
conjunction
with
soviet
and
the
commerce
department
on
strengthening.
How
do
we
really
better
connect
the
businesses
or
the
development
projects
that
we're
supporting
with
the
workforce
system
and
make
sure
that
those
job
opportunities
are
available
to
philadelphians
and
those
job
opportunities
really
are
quality
jobs
as
well.
I
Yep,
if
I
could
be
a
little
bit
more
specific,
I
think
what
I'm
interested
in
is
how
we
are
better
doing
a
better
job.
You
know
I'm
I'm
dealing
with
this
on
the
juvenile
justice
front.
For
example,
I
mean
it's
not
completely
related
directly,
but
you
know
we
have
the
power
of
both
our
public
dollars
our
public
purse
and
to
demand
that
you
know
facilities
that
institutionalize
young
people
have
to
do
x,
number
of
things,
and
it's
not
just
about
access
opportunity
and
connect.
I
It's
about
demand
so
like,
for
example,
if
you
get
a
public
subsidy,
what's
the
lowest
wage
that
could
be
offered,
you
know
like
do
you
have?
Do
you
demand
that
it
is
a
15
wage
job?
It's
a
public
subsidy
to
me.
I
think
it
feels
like
you
know
there
needs
to
be
a
clear
benefit
package.
I
You
know
a
clear
threshold
towards
what
we're
getting
to
for
wages.
Clarity
about
benefits
healthcare
because
we
can't
afford
to
have
people,
as
we
saw
with
covid
completely
without
healthcare,
that
we
enforce
on
sick
leave,
cetera
et
cetera,
but
like
is
that,
is
that
part
of
it,
and
is
that
something
that
you
would
consider?
Because
we
are,
we
are
in
a
world
where
you
know
I
don't
want
you,
you
know
like
look.
I
A
I
Seven
or
you
know,
seven
million
dollar
grants
from
pidc
approved
projects,
and
thus
you
know
those
kinds
of
larger
entities
like
you
know:
hotels
or
garages
or
those
types
of
things
you
know
like.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
they
are
giving
us
the
types
of
jobs
that
both
help
reach.
You
know
our
books,
but
also
bring
it,
bring
it
up,
and
I'm
specifically
talking
about
wages,
because
I
think
we
are,
I
think,
more
than
anything
else.
I
If
there's
a
large-scale
entity,
we
want
to
ensure
that
our
large
amounts
of
tax
subsidies
will
not
subsidize
low
wage
jobs.
E
So,
yes,
I
think
I
understand
what
you're
speaking
to
with
respect
to
the
hotel
project
and
and
if
that's
specifically,
the
w
element,
then
that
project,
which
you
know
now
is,
I
hope,
getting
ready
to
you
know
open
after
a
long
time
you
know,
coming
is,
is
one
that
you
know
had
a
set
of
you
know
capital
associated
with
it
and
and
a
set
of
agreements
that
were
determined
at
the
time
we
haven't
to
my
knowledge
or
recollection,
financed
any
hotels.
E
You
know
since
that
time,
and
certainly
not
using
the
the
tax
increment
financing
or
you
know
that
type
of
resource,
even
the
hud
108
dollars.
I
don't
think
we've
done
any
additional
hotel
financing
with
those
of
resources.
You
know
since
that,
since
that
time
I
certainly
think
going
forward
in
terms
of
how
you
know
and
and
over
the
recent
years,
you
know
how
we
select
projects
for
support
is
very
much
focused
on
what
is
the
benefit
that
those
projects
are
going
to
bring
to
the
community.
E
That
absolutely
includes
looking
at
the
quality
of
jobs
looking
for
wages,
looking
at
the
benefits-
and
you
know
evaluating
what
other
benefits
the
project
is
going
to
bring
to
a
community,
it
might
be
other
types
of
things,
medical
services,
so
should
I
be
more.
I
Specific,
I
know
wages
as
you
evaluate
kind
of
the
you
know,
the
value
of
a
company
and
what
it
can
overall
bring
but
or
an
investment
project
and
what
it
can
actually
bring
to
the
city.
It's
not
just
that,
like
wages,
are
part
of
the
evaluation,
but
are
wages,
a
responsibility
of
a
mandate
of
the
investment
like
you
must
be
able
to
pay
x
amount
of
dollars.
E
Is
based
on
a
calculator?
Let's
see,
let
me
just
look
this
up,
so
we
require
our
new
markets
borrowers
to
comply
with
a
community
benefits
agreement
that
defines
a
living
wage.
That
is
consistent
with
a
calculator
that
is
run
by
mit
and
that
current
living
wage
calculation
is
12.64
an
hour
or
26
291
dollars
for
2020.
E
I
E
I
E
So
that
is
not
so
the
living
wage
calculation
here
is
specific
for
the
new
markets
tax
credit
program.
We
have
not
developed
a
specific
wage,
related
mandate.
I
guess
you
would
say
for
for
other
types
of
projects
outside
of
that.
I
Okay,
I
think
it
should
be
part
of
your
consideration.
You
know
like
I,
as
I
said,
I
think
four
entities
that
are
getting
you
know:
six,
seven
million
dollar,
six,
seven
figure
kind
of
investments
with
public
tax
dollars.
Our
responsibility
is
to
raise
wages
and
to
recognize
that
the
city
itself
is
moving
towards
fifteen
dollars
an
hour
as
a
minimum
wage
for
publicly
city-funded
subsidized
projects,
and
I
feel
that
pidc
has
to
be
part
of
that
dialogue.
I
think
that
there
are
other
things
that
you
know.
I
I
still
want
to
continue
to
have
conversations
and
hope
that
the
pre-k
recovery
you
know
pre-covered
and
post
covet
is
dramatically
different
for
us.
We've
seen
devastation
across
our
city
on
small
businesses
and
the
investment
you
know
supports
and
what
we
can
do
with
scarce
dollars.
Right
now,
really,
you
know
should
lean
towards
a
a
very
generous
view
towards
community
community
growth
beyond
ownership
is
absolutely
key,
hiring
jobs
absolutely
key,
but
I
think
we've
shown
us.
I
You
know,
and
I
think
you've
actually
shown
a
real
investment
around
public
sector
private
sector
partnerships
that
can
meet
both
a
meaningful
threshold
on
wages
and
community
benefits,
as
well
as
a
large-scale,
privately
primarily
privately
developed
project
can
do
and
sometimes
even
better
to
be
continued.
But
thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman.
A
If
are
there
any
other
witnesses
that
are
here
testify
on
this
resolution?
Among
for
these
joint
committees,
seeing
none
thank
you
sylvie
guy
howard,
our
acting
commerce,
director
and
ann
bavern
evans
from
pidc
for
your
testimony
this
afternoon
I
will
take
all
the
members
of
council
and
all
the
people
that
testified
today,
especially
those
of
you
who
are
virtual
teachers
as
well
as
participants
in
this
hearing,
something
I
can
definitely
relate
to
myself.
A
Seeing
no
other
comments
from
members
of
council
to
public
there
being
no
further
questions
from
members
of
the
committee
and
no
other
witnesses
to
testify.
I've
already
asked
if
anyone
else
is,
president
is
hearing
that
I
failed
to
call
upon
that
wishes
to
offer
testimony
on
his
resolution.
Seeing
none.
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
your
participation
today.
We
value
your
opinions
and
this
concludes
the
public
hearing
of
this
joint
committee
on
finance
and
commerce
economic
development.
We
so
we
shall
recess
this
hearing
to
the
call
the
chair.
A
Thank
you
for
your
participation
and
attendance
this
morning
and
now
this
afternoon.