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From YouTube: Joint Committee on Finance, Children and Youth 6-22-2022
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The Joint Committees on Children and Youth & Finance of the Council of the City of Philadelphia held a Public Hearing on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, at 10:00 AM to hear testimony on the following items:
220149
Resolution authorizing the City Council Committees on Children and Youth and on Finance to hold hearings regarding the Philadelphia Parking Authority’s unorthodox and contested request for the School District to repay the Parking Authority nearly $11 million.
B
B
Everyone.
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been
invited
to
the
meeting
to
testify
should
be
aware
that
this
public
hearing
is
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they
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will
note
for
the
record
at
this
time
that
we
will
use
the
chat
feature
in
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to
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to
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in
order
to
comply
with
the
sunshine
act.
A
C
Good
morning,
chair
persons,
I'm
present.
D
Good
morning
to
the
chairs
good
morning,
colleagues
and
good
morning
to
the
panelists
present.
A
B
A
Thank
you
very
much
before
we
begin
and
I
do
have
a
few
opening
remarks.
I
did
want
to
invite
any
of
my
colleagues
to
also
offer
any
opening
remarks
at
this
time.
A
Okay,
so
I
think
I
will.
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
opening
remarks
for
today.
You
know,
15
years
ago
I
stood
with
public
school
parents,
educators
and
civic
leaders
to
demand
accountability
and
change
from
the
philadelphia
parking
authority.
We
reminded
the
ppa
of
one
of
its
central
missions
as
a
public
trust
to
fund
our
public
schools.
When
the
commonwealth
of
pennsylvania
took
over
the
governance
of
the
ppa
in
2004,
it
promised
at
least
45
million
dollars
a
year
to
the
school
district.
A
The
agency
had
not
delivered
a
single
penny
to
the
school
district
and
it
never
would
have,
if
not
for
advocates,
who
refused
to
tolerate
an
agency
that
gobbled
up
any
and
every
dollar
that
would
otherwise
go
to
the
school
district
for
itself
over
the
course
of
the
next
15
years,
and
up
to
this
very
day,
this
has
been
a
consistent
story
of
the
parking
authority
through
multiple
leadership.
Changes
through
round-robin
board
appointments,
despite
embarrassing,
media
exposes
and
investigations,
formal
audits,
reporting,
poor
and
wasteful
financial
practices
and
promises
that
have
been
made
before
this
very
body.
A
In
hearing
after
hearing,
despite
measures
we've
taken,
including
mandatory
quarterly
meetings
between
the
city,
the
school
district
and
the
ppa.
Despite
all
of
this,
we
are
here
today
because
this
is
an
agency
that
remains
far
far
from
its
mission
in
decision
after
decision.
It
has
systematically
purposely
and
often
times
secretly,
to
the
detriment
of
our
city
and
our
school
district,
taking
money
that
should
have
gone
to
the
city's
school
children
and
spent
it
on
itself.
A
As
we
can
see,
the
philadelphia
parking
authority
has
repeatedly
since
its
funding
the
philadelphia
parking
authority
has
become
a
quarter
billion
dollar
agency
and
its
earnings
come
entirely
within
philadelphia's
boundaries
and
primarily
from
fees
on
philadelphia
residents
and
yet
over
20
years
it
has
delivered
a
total,
a
total
of
132
million
dollars
to
the
philadelphia
public
schools
and,
as
we
can
see,
based
on
its
original
founding,
that
is
barely
18
of
the
money
that
would
have
been
promised
to
us.
You
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
A
This
is
a
slide
of
the
contributions
from
the
ppa
to
the
school
district
of
philadelphia
between
2005
to
2021..
The
red
line
shows
the
amount
owed
under
act
22
that
was
originally
promised,
and
the
bottom
line
shows
the
amount
that
the
school
district
of
philadelphia
has
actually
received
next
slide.
A
The
next
slide
shows
this
revenue
compared
to
the
philadelphia
parking
authority's
own
on-street
revenue
divisions
which
have
steadily
increased
over
the
years
and
obviously,
as
you
can
see,
the
pandemic
has
created
significant
issues
for
everybody,
but
nonetheless,
contributions
from
the
on-street
revenue
division
are
consistently
less
than
10.
A
This
has
largely
been
because
of
things
that
have
been
well
known
by
the
parking
authority,
including
the
fact
that
the
parking
authority
has
known
expenses,
rampant
patronage,
bloated
executive
salaries,
outrageous
bonuses
that
have
been
revealed
in
the
past,
the
ppa's
executive
director
makes
43
percent
more
than
executive
directors,
comparable
parking
authorities
around
the
country
next
slide.
A
A
A
Council
members,
colleagues,
I
invite
you
to
review
the
minutes
of
a
council
hearing
in
2012
when
the
ppa
came
before
this
very
body,
requesting
a
50
increase
in
parking
meter
fees,
claiming
that
funds
to
the
school
district
would
rise
to
at
least
18
million
dollars
a
year.
Not
only
has
the
ppa
never
met
that
threshold
in
the
immediate
years,
following
that
parking
meter,
increase
funding
to
the
school
district
actually
dropped
for
15
of
its
last
18
years
under
state
control.
A
The
agency's
payments
to
the
school
district
to
the
school
district
of
philadelphia
have
been
erratic
and
paltry
at
best.
Last
year,
it
delivered
zero
dollars
to
the
school
district
at
a
time
when
our
schools
struggled
to
open,
find
staffing
or
had
to
scramble
just
to
get
its
students
on
the
internet.
A
In
addition
to
all
of
this
again,
this
has
included
the
undisclosed
revelation
that
the
ppa
has
been
diverting
millions
of
dollars
in
on-street
parking
revenue
in
order
to
voluntarily
pre-pay
and
seek
a
100,
fully
funded
pension
fund,
which,
according
to
its
own
press
release
in
2019,
it
was
able
to
achieve
over
the
course
of
two
years
this
diversion
of
district
revenue
toward
that
pension
pension
fund
had
never
been
publicly
disclosed
before
to
the
district
or
to
the
city
of
philadelphia.
A
It
was
never
made
clear
in
financial
audits
that
were
delivered
to
our
body
and
that's
why,
when
the
ppa
announced
last
fall
that
it
demanded
an
11
million
dollar
repayment
from
city
school
children,
this
body
drew
the
line.
It
is
a
shame
that
we
had
to
issue
a
formal
subpoena
for
documents,
but
I
want
to
be
clear
to
my
colleagues
that
this
is
because
for
months
the
district
had
requested
an
explanation
for
the
alleged
overpayment
and
the
ppa
simply
refused
to
provide
it
today.
For
the
very
first
time
we
will
hear
an
explanation.
A
A
A
This
hearing
will
try
to
discern
for
the
first
time
what
the
actual
cost
allocation
is
to
the
on-street
revenue
division,
which
is
the
key
division
whose
revenues
over
expenses
go
towards
the
city
and
the
school
district
of
philadelphia
and
colleagues,
despite
the
fact
that
council
delivered
a
subpoena
for
documents,
the
submitted
financial
documents
that
were
returned
to
us
are
still
incomplete
and
still
do
not
allow
this
body
or
the
public
to
see
all
the
expenses
and
spending
the
ppa
is
deducting
from
the
payment.
It
provides
our
schools.
A
The
documents
do
demonstrate,
however,
that
the
ppa's
known
problems,
patronage,
other
things
continue
to
this
day.
Bizarre
practices
remain
in
place,
which
we
won't
focus
on
now,
but
include
things
like
a
website
where
people
can
simply
apply
to
work
there
without
applying
for
an
existing
job
or
paying
politically
connected
teenagers
at
the
high
school
and
collegiate
level
up
to
thirty
thousand
dollar
stipends
as
interns
capital
expenditures,
including
a
disastrous
and
costly
stint
at
the
infamous
lot.
A
Nine,
which
is
a
topic
that
we
will
delve
into
today,
show
that
the
ppa
continues
to
load
onto
its
operating
expenses
and
on-street
division.
Things
like
vehicle
replacement,
building
improvements
which
are
typically
on
a
capital
budget,
and
we
will
be
discussing
the
ppa's
opeb
trust,
also
known
as
other
post-employment
benefits,
trust
a
heretofore
secret
diversion
of
on-street
revenue
dollars
who
pay
whose
payments
are
far
beyond
national
norms.
A
Today's
hearing
will
also
cover
the
agency's
current
crisis,
around
fiscal
accountability
and
its
diminished
capacity
to
manage
its
own
finances.
Its
latest
executive
director
was
ousted
in
march.
The
testimony
by
ms
grossman,
which
all
of
us
have
before
us,
indicates
that
the
authority
may
not
hire
its
executive
director
until
the
end
of
this
year.
A
Last
week
its
cfo
either
abruptly
resigned
or
was
fired.
We
don't
actually
know
but
is
otherwise
gone,
and
though
the
agency's
fiscal
year
ended
on
march
30th,
it
has
yet
to
announce
how
much
money
is
going
to
the
school
district
school
district
of
philadelphia
for
fy
2022,
which
is
months
beyond
its
usual
notification
and
is
completely
unacceptable.
A
I
remind
the
public
that
the
ppa
is
the
only
agency
that
reports
to
no
one
but
itself.
There
is
no
oversight
over
its
budget,
not
by
harrisburg
and
not
by
the
city
of
philadelphia,
and
this
model
has
failed.
It
is
long
past
time
for
us
to
seek
a
longer-term,
formal
financial
oversight
over
this
body
and,
let's
be
clear,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
this
way.
A
The
ppa
lauds
itself
as
an
accredited
parking
organization
with
distinction
and
today
will
once
again
state
its
intent
to
find
new
areas
for
improvement
and
to
the
members
of
the
parking
authority
who
are
new
to
the
board
or
to
the
agency.
You
may
not
have
been
directly
responsible
for
the
past,
but
you
are
absolutely
responsible
for
fixing
this
agency
from
this
moment
on
to
gain
any
credibility
in
the
city
and
in
front
of
this
council.
The
ppa
must
commit
to
formal
oversight,
greater
disclosure
and
a
true
partnership.
A
Will
the
clerk
now
be
just
once
again
before
we
call
the
first
witness?
Do
any
of
my
colleagues
have
any
opening
remarks
at
this
time.
H
Thank
you
and
good
morning,
chair
kim
and
chair
green
and
other
council
members
who
are
present.
My
name
is
ori
monson.
I
am
the
chief
financial
officer
for
the
school
district
of
philadelphia.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
at
the
hearing.
I
believe
some
background
is
important
to
understand
the
context.
H
As
most
of
you
are
aware,
it
has
been
mentioned
already,
since
the
commonwealth
took
over
the
parking
authority
almost
20
years
ago,
the
parking
authority,
the
ppa
and
the
school
district
have
been
inexorably
linked.
H
The
stems
from
initial
promises
made
at
the
time
of
the
takeover
that
any
excess
annual
funds
generated
by
the
ppe
would
be
given
to
the
school
district
once
required.
Payments
to
the
city
had
been
satisfied
and
at
the
time
the
house
majority
leader
estimated
this
resulting
45
million
dollars
a
year
in
revenues
for
the
district.
H
The
highest
amount
we
ever
received
in
2018-19
was
15.4
million,
and
when
you
leave
out
the
pandemic
impacted
year
last
year,
when
we
received
no
funds,
the
low
amount
was
just
2.2
million
and
the
average
funding
amount
over
the
course
13
years
was
about
a
little
over
10
million
dollars
a
year
and
more
challenging
for
us
than
the
inconsistent
funding
levels
is
the
lack
of
information
sharing
that
occurred
between
the
ppa
and
the
district.
H
For
most
of
that
period,
we
did
have
improvement
as
a
result
of
council
hearings
in
2017,
which
has
led
to.
We
do
have
periodic
meetings
now
between
the
ppa,
the
city
finance
office
and
the
school
district.
That
information,
that's
shared,
does
provide
some
insight
into
ppa
performance
and
resulting
impact,
though
at
times
it
is
incomplete.
H
Rarely
includes
projections
regarding
the
payment
they'll
be
made
at
the
end
of
the
year,
and
the
lack
of
projections
makes
it
very
difficult
for
the
district
to
plan
on
use
of
those
funds,
both
in
the
upcoming
fiscal
year
as
well
as
long-term
planning.
As
you
know,
the
district
does
a
five-year
planning
process
every
year
and,
as
you
mentioned,
your
opening
statement,
even
today
and
june
22nd,
nearly
three
months
after
the
close,
the
ppas
fiscal
year,
we
still
don't
know
any
amount
of
any
payment.
H
H
We
ppa
did
agree
to
a
meeting
between
their
professional
financial
staff
and
consultants,
along
with
parallel
individuals
from
the
district.
That
meeting
left
many
questions
unanswered
and,
after
several
attempts
to
request
clarification,
I
did
send
a
formal
letter
in
january
january
25th
highlighting
concerns
the
district
had
with
certain
ppa
decisions
in
accounting
for
pension
liabilities
and
payments,
the
use
of
operating
funds
for
capital
expenditures,
existence
of
a
separate
trust
fund
and,
specifically,
what
the
ppa
was
demanding
regarding
the
liability.
H
One
day
later,
mr
petrie
responded
in
the
letter
which
disputed
the
act
would
guide
the
payments
and
declined
to
address
the
accounting
concerns.
After
reviewing
the
letter
we
did
respond,
I
sent
a
response
on
february
4th,
citing
to
the
epa's
formula
laws,
as
well
as
the
calculations
descriptions
provided
in
the
ppa's
own
financial
statements.
A
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
monson.
Just
for
clarity,
could
you
give
us
some
background
on
your
accounting
and
pension
experience.
H
My
personal
accounting
pension
experience.
H
So
I
did
work
with
the
city's
pension.
I
was
an
assistant
budget
director
for
the
city.
H
Actually,
over
20
years
ago,
I
was
at
pika
for
12
years,
part
of
which
involved
overseeing
the
or
responding
to
issues
on
the
city's
pension
fund
was
cfo,
montgomery
county,
where
I
actually
ran
the
pension
fund
for
the
county
and
obviously
at
the
district,
with
a
lot
of
work
with
peacers
and
the
state
pension
fund
and
which
consumes
a
significant
portion
of
district
budget
finances.
A
Given
your
wide
wide-ranging
experience
and
depth
of
experience
around
this
area,
can
you
can
you
tell
us
what
your
opinion
is
of
the
ppa's
pension
fund
decisions?
Is
it
typical.
H
I
don't
think
it's
typical.
I
think
there
are
points
at
which
decisions
can
be
made
to
do
to
either
set
aside
funds
or
make
decisions
to
fund
pensions
instead
of
other
instead
of
other
obligations.
What's
unique
about
this
approach
is
in
any
of
those
situations,
for
example
at
the
county
when
the
county
had
been
underfunding,
pension
payments
for
a
long
time,
we
made
a
strategic
decision
to
fund
at
the
proper
level,
but
we
knew
that
by
doing
that,
it
meant
that
there
were
other
priorities
we
could
not
do
so.
H
We
were
making
choices,
which
is
what
most
organizations
face.
Is
that
if
we
put
it
to
pensions
and
if
the
district
has
that
issue
and
has
to
do
that-
and,
for
example,
we're
making
a
choice
to
put
more
money
towards
retirement
benefits
and
therefore
not
invest
in
more
counselors
in
schools?
There's
a
trade-off.
H
H
H
H
So,
if
you
have
a
building,
that's
going
to
last
40
years
20-year
borrowing
allows
you
to
do
those
repairs
and
large
borrowings.
There
are
times
when
you
either
have
a
sudden
influx
of
large
one-time
money.
So,
for
example,
the
district
is
devoting
a
portion
of
its
federal
funds
towards
capital
facilities,
investment
or
to
the
opposite.
H
When
I
first
started
the
district,
the
district
had
no
access
to
capital
markets.
They
couldn't
borrow
money
because
of
the
fiscal
problems,
so
you,
in
those
cases
we're
using
operating
money
effectively
for
capital,
but
it's
normally
not
the
best
practice.
To
do
that
and
again,
there
are
reasons
to
do
it
in
each
of
those
cases.
H
The
issue
for
us
was
explaining
publicly
and
explaining
both
you
know
from
the
district
to
the
board
and
to
the
public
that
we
were
making
these
choices
for
these
reasons
so
that
they
could
weigh
in,
and
there
was
response
and
again
we
knew
we
were
making
internal
trade-offs
when
we
made
those
choices,
so
putting
more
money
into
facilities
with
the
federal
money
means
less
available
for
hiring
even
staff
beyond
what
we've
done,
but
those
were
choices.
H
We
felt
were
the
right
ones
to
make
we
surveyed
on
with
the
public
and
got
that
information
out
there.
So
they
are
significant
fiscal
policy
choices
and
for
a
public
entity
they
need
to
be
clear
and
transparent.
A
A
We
both
came
on
to
your
you
and
your
respective
capacity
at
the
school
district
of
philadelphia
and
myself
on
city
council
in
2016,
came
together
and
established
via
a
hearing
a
quarterly,
and
you
know
an
intergovernmental
agreement
with
the
parking
authority
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
that
there
would
be
quarterly
meetings
between
those
three
entities
in
order
to
assure
that
there
weren't
financial
surprises
or
things
that
that
surprised
the
district
year
over
year
and
that
it
should
result
in
information
sharing
engagement
around
financial
issues.
A
Despite
that,
once
again,
you
said
that
you
were
and
continue
to
be
surprised
by
actions
and
decisions
made
by
the
authority
that
were
never
consulted
with
you
or
in
which
you
had
any
information
given
until
well
after
the
fact.
So
you
know
what
more
do
you
think
is
needed
to
provide
meaningful
oversight
and
transparency
of
the
parking
authority
in
order
to
assure
stable,
consistent
and
responsible
funding.
H
So
I
think
so
in
fairness,
we
do
have
the
periodic
meetings
with
three
entities
and
they
continue
to
happen
with
all
three
represented.
H
I
think
the
data
being
more
timely,
sometimes
and
there's
certain
data
points
that
both
either
the
city
or
the
scholarship
requested
to
get
a
better
understanding
to
have
actually
projections,
if
you're,
six
months
into
a
fiscal
year,
the
documents
you're
sharing
should
have
a
better
sense
of
where
you
think
you're
going
to
end
up
so
and
actually
by
january,
they're,
nine
months
into
their
fiscal
year.
So
we
should
have
a
pretty
good
idea
of
where
they
think
they're
going
to
end
up
for
the
fiscal
year
which
impacts
our
payment.
H
So
we
very
rarely,
even
until
we
do
a
strong
question
and
get
any
kind
of
projection
data,
and
the
second
piece
is
if
there
are
fiscal
policy
changes
that
will
impact
us
which
are
never
discussed
in
those
meetings
and
again
never
discussed
publicly.
So
again,
it's
how
you're
funding
your
pension
benefits
the
pay-as-you-go
capital,
anything
that
can
have
an
impact
on
what
funds
are
going
to
go.
H
A
Thank
you.
I
want
to
bump
this
over
to
my
colleagues
council
member,
dom
the
chair
recognizes
council
member
dawn.
B
I
also
want
to
say
good
morning
to
coach
here,
green
and
good
morning.
Mr
munson,
I
think
the
chair
actually
asked
partially
the
questions
I
had,
which
is
in
a
perfect
world.
What
are
you
looking
for
from
ppa
to
give
you
the
tools
you
need
in
order
to
budget?
You
know
more
accurately.
H
So
I
I
think
it
really
is
that
transparency
element
of
what's
likely
to
happen,
and
it's
interesting,
because
the
timing
of
their
fiscal
year
is
the
end
of
march
and
our
budget's
adopted
in
may
so
it
it
actually
would
time
it
well
for
us
to
have
some
predictability.
H
We
have
no
control,
obviously
over
the
operations
of
the
ppa
and
it's
you
know
this
bizarre
formula
where
we
get
the
leftovers,
so
I'm
not
looking
into
control
what
what
we're
getting
and
how
it's
calculated.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
how
it's
being
calculated
is
transparent.
If
there
are
financial,
fiscal
policy
decisions
which
will
impact
it
that
they're
clearly
articulated
in
a
timely
fashion,
and
ideally
while
they're
weighing
the
decision,
it
might
be
helpful
to
you
know,
give
us
a
chance
to
comment
on
it.
H
But
and
then
it's
really
the
timely
projections.
I
think
that's
the
biggest
issue
for
us.
They
know
their
operations
better
than
we
ever
will
better
than
the
city
ever
will.
We
can
even
look
at
the
numbers
which
they
share
with
us
of
current
staffing
ticket
expenditures
revenues.
So
we
see
all
that,
but
only
they
can
have
a
sense
of
the
normal
timeliness
throughout
the
year.
H
They
project
that
in
january,
that
we're
going
to
the
bank
and
if
they
don't
give
us
three
million
we're
going
to
call
for
hearings
it's
that
we
need
to
have
a
sense
of
what's
likely
to
happen.
You
know
there
are
always
things
that
will
emerge
and
things
that
will
shift,
but
to
have
some
projection.
H
Some
ability
to
project
and
predictability
also
helps
not
just
with
the
coming
year,
but,
as
I
mentioned,
you
know
we
do
just
like
the
city,
we
do
a
five-year
financial
plan
and
when
we
have
a
sense
of
predictable
revenues
that
allows
us
to
think
about
predictable
investments
in
students.
The
worst
thing
we
can
do
is
have
to
yo-yo
investments
and
students
where
extra
counselors
one
year
that
go
out
the
next
year,
because
we
don't
know
the
predictability
of
funding.
B
G
Thank
you,
madam
co-chair.
Good
morning,
mr
munson,
I
know
we've
had
multiple
conversations
over
the
years
and
all
things
fiscal.
So
it's
good
to
have
you
here
this
morning
just
wanted
to
touch
on.
G
You
know
from
your
experience,
both
in
your
current
position
and
also
at
you
know,
pica
and
also
montgomery
county,
especially
as
it
relates
to
pension
benefits.
Question
that
I
have
is
that,
and
I
understand
that
the
park
authority
much
like
pica
is
a
state
authority
has
to
go
through
reauthorization.
G
G
My
saying
they've
spent
a
significant
amount
of
money
on
pensions
and
I'm
curious
for
that
level
of
funding.
What's
a
historical
type
of
pension
funding
and
what's
considered
fully
funded.
H
So
I
think
there
are
a
couple
of
ways
to
look
at
it
and
obviously-
and
in
fairness,
much
like
the
district
to
some
extent
where
we're
subject
to
a
fund,
that's
run
by
somebody
else
and
peacers
who
basically
sends
us
a
bill.
They
have
to
make
contributions
to
the
city
pension
fund
because
of
the
way
a
lot
of
their
went
from
when
they
were
city
agency
and
a
lot
of
their
folks
through
that
pension
fund.
H
I
think
the
issues
for
so
number
one
and
one
of
the
things
we
raised
so,
for
example,
the
district
is
considered
extremely
high
in
districts
across
the
commonwealth.
We
have
to
contribute
about
35,
almost
36
percent
of
salary
to
piecers,
which
is
a
significant
number
even
among
public
entities.
The
ppa
is
over
50
percent.
H
So
it's
you
know.
Just
on
the
surface,
it's
a
a
significant
number.
We
did
ask
that
question
one
of
the
letters
about
why
it's
so
high
and
there's
whether
it's
a
combination
of
the
way
the
benefits
were
projected,
what
contributions
they
were
making
earlier.
That
may
be
underfunded.
H
It's
probably
more
complex,
but
we
don't
actually
have
insight
into
that.
I
think
the
other
issues
for
us
are
because
of
the
unique
nature
you
know
where
just
the
on-street
parking
impacts.
What
goes
to
the
district?
It's
unclear
to
us
exactly
how
their
total
pension
bill,
essentially,
which
is
a
for
the
entire
parking
authority,
is
allocated
across
the
different
areas,
so
airport
red
light
programs,
different
programs
and
on
street
and
again
it
may
be
correct,
but
we
just
don't
have
any
insight
into
how
it's
done
or
what?
H
What
the
choices
there
are
and
make
sure
it's
a
fair
amount.
And
then
the
other
piece
is
pension
and
related
opeb.
So
post-employment
benefit
is
having
an
outside
trust
fund,
which
I
understand
the
fiscal
logic
of
having
something
to
prepare
for
unanticipated
expenses
down
the
road
but
you're,
making
a
choice
to
pay
now
or
at
some
point,
have
feeded
this
fund
to
avoid
cost
down
the
road
which
is
taking
the
money
away
from
us
to
make
the
decision
of
whether
we,
the
district,
would
rather
have
it
now
to
pay
for
current
issues.
H
G
And
you
know
just
like
here
at
city
philadelphia,
we
have
our
mmo
or
minimum
municipal
obligation
that
we
have
to
pay
every
year
in
order
to
make
sure
that
our
both
retirees
are
taking
care
of,
and
also
preparing
for,
our
future
retirees.
And
so
that's
a
decision
that's
made
by
the
entity
and
leaves
you
with
the
incident.
Just
like
you
were
saying
for
the
school
district.
G
There's
certain
amounts
minimum
amounts
you
have
to
make
based
on
piecers,
but
going
forward
that
putting
more
money
up
up
and
above
the
mmo
here
in
the
city
or
doing
more
of
the
school
district
level.
That
is
a
decision
that
can
be
made
by
the
leadership
of
that
organization.
So,
just
like
in
the
past,
they
may
have
been
doing
a
50
pension
charge
which,
based
on
your
initial
outlook
without
additional
information,
seem
high.
G
The
leadership
organization
can
also
make
changes
going
forward
to
reduce
that
amount,
but
still
do
it
at
a
level
that
prepares
their
retirees
as
well
as
making
sure
they
are
preparing
for
future
challenges.
Yes,.
H
That's
correct:
it's
it's
a
combination
of
what
are
legal
requirements,
what
are
fiscal
best
practices
and
what
are
the
ongoing
current
issues
again,
you're,
always
making
a
choice,
money's,
finite
and
you're
choosing
among
priorities.
So
how
you
want
to
do
it?
What
you
want
to
do
and
again
for
public
entity
that
should
be
as
transparent
in
public
as
possible.
G
Right,
but
it's
always
up
to
and
that's
something
that
can
be
done
at
any
time
as
long
as
you're
within
the
parameters
and
meaning
the
minimum
so
going
forward,
the
organization
could
make
decisions
that
are
more
keeping
with
some
of
the
issues.
The
concerns
you
raised
based
on
new
leadership.
Yes,
I
believe,
that's
true.
A
Thank
you
co-chair
green.
Are
there
any
additional
questions
or
comments
from
members
of
this
committee
for
this
witness
scene?
None!
Mr
monson,
thank
you
very
much.
It
would
be
great
to
have
you
available
if
there
are
any
follow-up
questions
at
different
points
during
the
hearing,
recognizing
that
this
may
be
a
little
bit
more
extensive
in
the
next
section.
A
Good
morning,
chair
grossman,
thank
you
very
much
for
joining
us
today.
Are
you
connected?
Yes,
I
am.
Can
everyone
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can
hear
you
just
fine.
I
did
want
to
inform
the
viewing
public
and
tara
grossman.
We
have
received
your
full
testimony.
A
It
has
been
distributed
to
all
members
of
the
committee
and
I
had
asked
in
the
interest
of
time
that
if
you
could
after
doing
introductions
and
clarifications,
if
you
could
start
your
testimony
on
page
four
with
regard
to
the
resolution,
so
if
you
could
just
state
your
name
for
the
record
first
restate
it
and
then
you
may
proceed.
A
F
You
very
much
again
good
morning:
everybody
I'm
very
happy
to
be
here.
My
name
for
the
record
is
beth
grossman
and
I
am
chairperson
of
the
board
of
the
philadelphia
parking
authority
may
begin
chair.
F
Yes,
please
proceed.
Thank
you.
The
resolution
deals
with
the
distribution
of
net
revenue
referred
to
as
on-street
parking,
which
is
the
amount
largely
derived
from
parking
tickets
and
parking
violation.
Debt
collection,
specifically
resolution
220149,
seeks
to
look
at
the
figures.
Ppa
used
to
determine
the
payment
given
to
the
school
district
of
philadelphia
in
fiscal
year
2021,
which
ended
on
march
30th
2021.
F
As
you
know,
all
net
revenue
from
the
orange
street
parking
program
has
always
remained
in
philadelphia
and
before
2004,
all
of
that
revenue
was
delivered
directly
to
the
city.
The
passage
of
act
9
of
2004
created
a
formula
where,
after
the
authority
reaches
at
the
time,
a
25
million
dollar
threshold
for
its
payments
of
the
city,
a
payment
of
on-street
parking
revenue
beyond
that
threshold
could
be
considered
for
the
school
district.
F
We're
extremely
pleased
that
our
three
organizations
achieve
outcomes
that
supported
public
education
and
local
government.
Just
like
the
positive
outcome
of
the
school
district,
we
continue
to
address
quality
of
life
issues
as
best
we
can,
whenever
and
wherever
possible
we're
working
with
district
city
council
members
to
expand
our
life-saving
red
light
and
speed.
Camera
programs
in
high
accident
areas
we're
supporting
the
current
legislation
for
the
removal
of
abandoned
trucks
which
have
plugged
several
communities
for
so
many
years.
F
We
started
working
with
minority
business
organizations
like
the
african-american
chamber
of
commerce
of
pennsylvania,
new
jersey,
delaware
and
the
greater
philadelphia
hispanic
chamber
of
commerce
and
underrepresented
businesses
to
provide
greater
access
to
contract
opportunities
and
we've
just
contracted
both
the
nationally
regarded
human
resources,
firm
and
financial
services
firm
to
assist
in
fine-tuning
our
policies,
practices
and
procedures
and
we're
just
getting
started.
In
short,
ppa's
new
board
knows
we
have
to
go
to
the
extra
mile.
F
Our
emphases
are
in
refining
our
systems,
bettering
the
customer
experience
generating
more
revenues
to
be
passed
to
our
city
and
school
district
partners
and
implementing
an
impactful
social
responsibility
agenda.
We
hope
partnership
between
the
city,
school
district
and
ppa,
the
authorities
revised
financial
practices
and
our
several
new
initiatives
will
allow
us
to
be
a
bigger
and
more
beneficial
part
of
philadelphia,
and
I
hope
I
adequately
address
the
issues
of
resolution.
Twenty
two
two
zero
one,
four
nine
intended
to
cover
and,
of
course,
if
there
are
any
questions,
I
would
be
pleased
to
answer
them.
A
Thank
you
very
much
chair
grossman
and
thank
you
especially
again
for
abbreviating
the
testimony
again.
As
I
said,
your
testimony
has
been
distributed
to
all
members
of
council
who
can
review
it.
You
know
I
did
want
to
suggest,
however,
though,
that
the
primary
challenge
to
the
delivery
of
revenue
to
the
school
district
is
not
solely
about
the
formula
threshold
between
the
city
and
school
district.
A
It
is,
in
fact,
an
obligation,
but
around
many
of
the
questions
that
I
think
we'll
be
having
today,
which
is
around
the
expenses
that
are
deducted
that
create
that
kind
of
challenge.
Once
it
gets
started,
I'm
gonna
just
ask
of
I'm
actually
going
to
start
with
my
colleagues
and
I'm
happy
to
start
with
them
and
then
I'll
have
a
few
questions.
A
I
think
what
we're
going
to
try
to
do
is
focus
a
little
bit
of
our
questions
around
the
11
million
dollars.
We
can
go
into
the
calculation
of
the
school
district
and
the
city
sdp
contribution
numbers,
but
if
we
can
keep
those
questions
together,
that
would
be
helpful.
The
chair
recognizes
council
member
dom.
B
I
have
three
questions
for
you.
The
first
question
is
really
of
the
question
that
I
asked
mr
munson,
and
that
is
he's
looking
for
more
information
in
order
to
do
a
better
job
of
the
budgeting
for
the
school
district,
and
I
guess
my
question
is:
do
you
have
the
ability
and
capacity
of
the
financial
people
on
your
team
in
order
to
provide
that
information
to
him
and
he's
a
smart
guy?
He
can
probably
tell
you
exactly
what
he
needs
and
if
we
just
get
this
information
shared,
we
can
avoid
this
problem.
F
Councilman
and
most
it
most
certainly
is
first
of
all,
I
and
the
other
board
members
are
certainly
committed
to
transparency
and
collaboration.
We
want
to
continue
our
relationships
and
improve
them
with
the
school
district,
and
we
are
happy
to
work
with
mr
munson
to
provide
what
information
he
seeks.
F
As
I
noted
in
my
portion
of
the
testimony
that
I
just
read
in,
we
are
in
the
process
of
engaging
with
an
outside
financial
review
firm,
also
to
take
a
deep
dive,
look
into
our
financial
department
to
ensure
that
we
are
following
best
practices
and
procedures,
industry
standards.
What
can
we
improve?
How
can
we
get
information
out
to
those
who
seek
it
in
a
timely
fashion
and
look
to
anything
that
we
can
improve?
I
think
because
we
have
such
a
new
board.
F
Now
is
the
time
to
delve
deep
into
look
at
this,
and
I
am
sure
that
this
will
enable
us
to
work
more
collaboratively
with
whatever
it
is
that
mr
munson
needs,
and
I
must
acknowledge
that
I
do
not
have
the
financial
experience
that
mr
munson
has
in
no
way
shape
or
form
I'm
a
poly
sci
major.
What
can
I
tell
you,
but
I
can
say
that
we
will
be
happy
to
work
with
him.
B
The
second
question:
I
have
basically
three
quick
ones
in
your
page.
I
guess
five
of
your
testimony.
You
talk
about
in
fiscal
year
2020.
It
says
the
net
on
street
revenue
total
56
million.
Do
you
know
what
the
gross
revenue
was.
F
B
You
know
helpful
and
then
the
other
question
is
not
specifically
on
this.
I
mean
I'm
used
to
asking
these
questions.
We
had
this
lot
nine
project,
where
I've
heard
we
lost
a
ton
of
money.
Okay,
now
just
try
to
understand
how
that
happened.
B
What
was
that
process
that
occurred
and
how
do
we
avoid
it
in
the
future,
because
we've
had
issues
like
this,
whether
it's
the
46
in
market,
where
we
lost
80
to
90
million
for
the
inquirer
building,
which
we
dramatically
paid
a
premium
for
it
and
have
not
managed
that
well,
and
so
my
question
is
on
this
live.
Can
you
just
give
us
a
brief,
not
long
brief
overview
of
what
went
wrong
here?
What
did
we
do
wrong?
What
can
we
learn
from
this
and
how
do
we
prevent
it
from
happening
again.
F
I
think,
basically,
it
was
a
bunch
of
things
I
think
going
forward.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
correct
individual
overseeing
these
projects,
such
as
somebody
oversees
all
our
capital
development
projects,
and
I
think,
I
think,
with
a
strengthened
financial
department,
with
very,
very
improved
oversight
by
the
board
of
projects
such
as
this.
F
I
think
that
will
help
eliminate
any
issues
such
as
this
arose.
You
know
we
all
have
limited
funds
and
we
don't
wish
to
needlessly
lose
them
through
litigation.
I
think
we
are
looking
to
develop
a
capital
projects
committee
of
which
board
members
will
be
on
it,
which
will
allow
for
extreme
scrutiny
and
oversight.
F
You
know
what,
if
you
could
you
know
what
council
I
I
will
find
out
that
I
will
find
out
that
answer
for
you.
I
apologize
for
not
knowing
that's.
That's
a
that's
a
fair
question,
not
a
problem.
F
So
if
I
may,
I
was
appointed
to
the
board
in
july
my
first
meeting
was
august
24th
and
I
was
appointed
as
chair
in
october.
So,
interestingly,
I'm
proud
to
say,
we
do
have
a
very
five
out
of
six
of
us
are
new.
F
All
of
us
have
been
appointed
within
approximately
the
last
18
months,
so
we
are
learning
as
we
go,
but
I
can
tell
you
is
that
we
are
all
committed
to
looking
what
needs
to
be
improved
in
the
authority,
what
are
best
practices
working
and
improving
our
relationships
with
city
and
commonwealth
stakeholders
and
just
doing
what
we
can
in
our
obligation
to
the
city
and
the
school
district.
So
it's
an
exciting.
It's
an
exciting
time.
B
One
last
question:
that's
really,
maybe
not
I
think,
with
this
hearing,
but
can
the
parking
authority,
people
that
are
on
the
street?
B
Are
they
helping
us
with
their
eyes
and
ears
as
far
as
seeing
issues
of
crime
or
homeless
or
people
who
have
mental
illness
and
even
taking
a
photo
and
texting
it
to
the
appropriate
people
with
locations?
So
they
can
be
extra
extra
people
to
help
us
in
the
public
safety
area.
F
It's
funny
that
you
I'm
glad
you
actually
brought
that
up
councilman
the
issue
that
keeps
me
awake
at
night
that
I
must
acknowledge
to
to
all
of
city
council
is
the
physical
well-being
of
our
our
parking
enforcement
officers,
our
tow
truck
drivers
and
our
booters,
because
every
day,
probably
every
day
without
fail,
they
are
subject
to
verbal
and
sometimes
physical
abuse,
where
they
have
guns
drawn
on
them
where
they
have
been
physically
struck.
F
So
so,
and
I
must
commend
them
for
the
work
that
they
do
day
in
and
day
out,
because
that's
really
a
scary
thing,
you
know,
I
think,
if
they
look
first
and
foremost,
is
their
physical
well-being,
where
I
don't
want
them
to
do
anything
that
is
going
to
harm
them.
That's
a
paramount
importance,
but
if
they
can
do
that
and
they
do
capture
something,
we
would
be
more
than
happy
to
share
it
with
the
appropriate
authorities,
but
again
their
physical
well-being
that
that's
first
and
foremost,
okay.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
councilmember
dom.
Before
moving
to
councilmember
gautier,
I
did
have
a
point
of
information
and
a
question
one.
You
know
it's
important
to
note
that
the
ppa
is
under
an
intergovernmental
authority
agreement
where
you
are
obligated
to
meet
with
the
city,
the
state,
the
city,
the
school
district
and
the
ppa
on
regular
meetings
to
assess
finances,
and
I
think
the
question
here
is
not
whether
you
will
be
happy
to
be
cooperative,
but
that
those
conversations
have
not
revealed
what
has
been
needed.
A
So
I
think
that's
a
point
of
information
and
that
actually
they
clearly
need
to
be
strengthened.
They
are
inadequate,
given
the
surprises,
but
as
a
point
of
vie.
As
a
matter
of
questioning,
you
mentioned
to
council
member
don
that
you
had
confidence
in
the
parking
authority's
kind
of
fine
financial
practices
who
what
happened
to
your
last
cfo
or
your
most
recent
cfo.
F
Well,
councilman,
first
of
all,
at
student
council
chair,
we
are
also
in
the
process
of
reevaluating
our
entire
financial
department.
Again,
as
I
said,
to
see
best
practices,
do
we
have
the
right
talent
in
there?
F
At
this
point,
I
think
we
just
agreed
that
we
need
a
different
type
of
cfo
and
we
are.
We
have
currently
hired
a
temporary
one
who
will
be
starting
with
this
soon
and
we
will
see
how
that
works
out.
When
will
they
start
with
you
within
the
next
couple
days
and.
A
A
Okay,
so
I
think
that's
one
of
the
key
questions
here
about
whether
and
how
soon
you
know
this
individual
can
get
underway,
and
you
felt
that
the
need
letting
go
of
the
most
recent
cfo
was
because
of
concerns
about
past
practices.
Is
that
right
or
seeking
a
new
direction?
What
what
exactly
is
it?
I
think.
F
Seeking
a
new
direction
beyond
that,
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
any
further
personnel
matters,
but
I
think-
and
I
think
at
this
time
is
again
looking
at
our
best
practices.
Having
a
third
party
come
in
to
evaluate
us
and
work
with
the
cfo,
I
think
we're
going
to
really
determine
what
we
need
and
how
we
can
improve.
F
We
have
not
yet
announced
we
have
not
yet
announced
that
yet,
but
we
are
in
the
rfp
process
and
I
think
that
should
be
concluded
soon.
A
D
You,
madam
chair
good
morning,.
D
D
I
wanted
you
to
expound
on
how
it
takes
found
more
on
how
the
ppa
determined
that
it
made
an
error
resulting
in
you
know
an
11
million
dollar
overpayment
to
the
school
district.
What
caused
the
error
in
the
first
place
and
who,
from
a
staffing
perspective,
made
the
determination
to
ask
the
district
for
almost
11
million
dollars,
especially
in
the
in
the
middle
of
a
pandemic?
F
Beginning
in
fy
2008
consistent
with
government
accounting
standards
board
statement,
45
the
authority
began
recording
an
expense
for
the
future
cost
of
retiree
health
benefits.
Excuse
me,
as
determined
by
an
actual
actuarial
report.
Each
department
was
chained
as
charged
the
portion
of
the
expense
in
the
same
manner
as
the
allocation
of
support
expense.
The
actuary
recommended
an
annual
amount
to
record
and
fund
the
liability
over
a
20-year
period.
F
The
cash
for
that
expense
was
held
in
authority
accounts
for
future
investment
in
an
opeb
trust
and
the
total
amount
accumulated
from
fy
2009
through
fy
2018,
with
16
million
dollars
in
2018,
a
recommendation
was
made
to
convert
insurance
reserves
from
cash
to
letters
of
credit.
Those
accounts
were
funded
in
the
same
manner
as
indicated:
opeb
expense
that
made
11.5
million
dollars
available
to
further
fund
the
opeb
liability
in
2019.
F
The
authority
excuse
me,
recorded
and
planned
to
fully
fund
that
increased
liability
in
fy
2020
and
the
amount
of
4.9
million
dollars
in
fy
2021
and
the
amount
of
5.5
million.
The
funding
of
that
liability
was
reversed,
enabling
the
authority
to
correct
the
overpayments
of
the
school
district.
That
determination
really
was
made
by
the
former
executive
director,
who
is
no
longer
with
us.
D
Okay,
and
so
it
sounds
like
this-
was
an
accounting
error
and
because
there's
this
practice
of
kind
of
having
the
leftover
funds
go
to
the
district,
a
determination
was
made
to
request
those
funds.
But
that
was
like
a
choice.
I
mean
that
it
sounds
like
that
was
within
ppa's
discretion,
not
something
that
necessarily
had
to
happen.
F
F
The
goal
we're
moving
from
100
we're
now
at
60,
from
funding
100
to
60,
and
our
current
level
of
funding
is
at
67.
F
Additionally,
future
open
funding
shortfalls
will
be
made
whole
over
a
period
of
appropriate
over
the
years
appropriate
to
minimize
the
impact
on
current
year.
Net
revenue
calculations
that
decision
to
fund
it.
A
hundred
percent
was
from
our
former
cfo
and
executive
director,
which
is
a
very
unusual
practice.
So
we
are
now
more
in
line
as
to
what
industry
standards
are.
F
D
F
We're
listen,
we're
a
new
board.
I
wasn't
here
you
know
previously
for
that,
but
I
think
once
we
saw
the
error
look,
we
just
want
to
do
what
is
right
and
although
it
took
time
going
back
and
forth,
listen
we're
always
happy
to
collaborate.
We
want
to
be
aboard
doing
what
is
right
going
forward.
F
Excuse
me
building
on
positive
foundations
from
the
previous
board,
but
as
all
of
you
are,
we
are
certainly
committed
to
providing
monies
to
the
city
and
the
school
district,
and
we
hope
you
know
to
improve
our
financial
practices
going
on
going
forward.
So
a
hiccup
like
this
does
not
happen
in
the
future.
D
Okay,
I
mean
the
fact
that
this
you
know,
error
or
misstatement
occurred
after
quite
a
lot
of
questions
were
asked
kind
of
begs
the
question
of
whether
there
were
other
misstatements
or
errors
in
past
years,
and
you
know
also
suggest
that
we
might
take
a
look
at
what
happened
in
past
years
to
to
see
if
we
can
find
any
misstatements.
What
do
you
think
about
that,
and
has
there
been
any
effort
to
examine
past
years
from.
D
I
almost
caught
it.
You
know
when
you
all
asked
for
this
money
from
the
district,
this
kind
of
riled
up
a
lot
of
people
right
on
council
in
the
advocacy
community
and
it
it
caused
a
lot
of
people
to
ask
questions.
And
then
you
found
that
there
was
an
error
on
on
ppa's
part
and
you
rescinded
that
request,
but
the
entire
situation
kind
of
begs
the
question
of
whether
we
should
look
at
past
years
to
see
if
there
were
errors
or
misstatements
in
those
years
too.
F
I
can't
certainly
look
we're
here
to
go
forward.
You
know,
I
can't
speak
to
anything
that
has
been
done
in
past
years,
but
I
will
tell
you
our
audit
every
year
is
posted
on
our
website.
It
is
provided
to
city
council
members,
it
is
provided
to
the
mayor.
It
is
provided
to
our
legislature
up
in
harrisburg,
so
any
and
we
have
been
audited
numerous
times
well
over
20
times
in
the
past
several
years,
so
our
books
are
open.
F
D
I
can
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
hire
you
know
an
auditor
on
an
annual
basis
to
look
at
your
books
and
and
that
you're
providing
that
information
to
the
public.
But
has
there
ever
been
an
independent
third
party
who
has
overseen
the
review
process
or
who
has
looked
for
misstatements
or
errors
in
the
calculations
of
pba's
contributions
to
the
city
and
the
school
district?.
F
I'm
not
sure
exactly
on
that
issue,
but
we've
been
audited
by
the
pennsylvania
auditor
general
we've
been
audited
by
miss
reinhart.
You
know
and
again,
as
I
said,
we're
audited
every
year,
I'm
not
sure
if
there
are
any
other
outside
parties
who
are
audited.
Forgive
me
there's
a
lot
of
history
going
on
here,
but
yeah,
so
other
other
agencies
have
weather
specifically
for
that
issue.
I
don't
I
don't
know,
but
there's.
D
No
sort
of
regular
practice
by
which
an
independent
third
party
comes
in
and
oversees
that
process.
D
D
Okay,
I
would
suggest
that
you
know
we
take
a
look
at
whether
we
need
to
examine
whether
there
were
errors
and
misstatements
in
past
years,
and
it
would
be
very
important
to
have
a
party
that
is
more
independent
to
be
able
to
weigh
in
on
on
that
matter.
I
don't
have
any
more
questions.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
councilmember
gautier.
Just
as
a
point
of
clarification,
did
you
say,
chair
grossman
that
your
third
party
is
going
to
review
if
the
same
mistake
that
was
made
has
happened
in
the
past.
A
Okay,
well,
can
there
be
a
commitment
to
that
we'll
have
to.
F
I'm
sure
we
can
commit
to
that.
That's
fine!
That's
a
reasonable
request!
Question.
May
I
just
follow
up
with
one
thing
from
councilman
dom's
request,
one
of
his
questions.
The
2020
gross
revenue
from
the
parking
authority
was
one
point
three
and
a
half
million
dollars.
Thank
you
for
that
courtesy
and
lot
nine
will
be
financed.
A
A
We
also
want
to
make
clear
that
I
think
the
specific
area
that
we're
looking
at
is
about
expenses
that
are
deducted
from
the
on-street
revenue
that
then
reduce
the
amount
of
money
that
goes
to
the
school
district
of
philadelphia.
In
particular,
the
chair
recognizes
council
member
green.
Am
I
co-chair
council
member
green.
G
Thank
you,
ma'am
co-chair
ms
grossman.
It's
good
to
see
you
thank
you
for
taking
on
this
role
and
just
wanted
to
ask
a
couple
of
questions
in
reference
to
you.
May
reference
to
you're
bringing
a
third-party
entity
to
do
a
financial
review
of
your
systems
within
the
philadelphia
park
authority
and
I'm
not
sure
if
I
caught
what
was
the
timeline
for
this
review.
F
As
soon
as
we
as
soon
as
we
we're
getting
ready
actually
to
commit
through
the
rfp
process-
and
I
believe
this
one
with
this
company-
I
think
this
will
be
a
three-month
practice.
A
three-month
commitment
to
this.
G
So
you're
so
right
now,
internally,
park
authority
is
putting
together
a
request
for
proposals
and
then
you're
going
to
issue
that
out
to
the
public,
then
you'll
review
those
that
apply
and
then
based
on
your
process
of
selection,
identify
a
firm
to
do
this
review
and
you
anticipate
that
it
will
be
a
three
month
review.
F
Actually,
actually,
we've
already
committed,
we
actually
have
somebody
selected,
but
I
don't
think
they've
been
formally
notified,
so
we're
actually
ahead
of
the
game.
There.
G
That's
it
okay,
so
you've
identified
you
selected
some
based
on
your
rfp
process.
You
have
identified
someone
and
you're
now
you're
in
the
process
of
communicating
their
selection
and
then
we'll
go
forward
with
memorializing
or
executing
a
contract
for
their
services,
but
you
believe
it'll
be
a
three-year
time
period.
For
that.
F
G
Three
months,
sorry,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
correcting
correcting
the
record
three-month
time
period
for
their
review
and,
as
part
of
that
review,
will
they
be
looking
at
all
dynamics
of
the
organization,
referencing
positions,
or
will
they
be
making
any
other
type
of
analysis?
Like
you
know,
we've
had
a
conversation
earlier
about
the
pension
perspective.
Are
they
just
looking
at
your
internal
structures
in
reference
to
the
positions,
but
also
looking
at
policies
as
well.
F
Everything
policies,
practices,
procedures.
Do
we
have
the
right
technology
in
place?
Do
we
have
the
right
talent?
Do
we
need
more,
you
know
accountants
or
this
and
that
what
can
make
it
more
effective
and
everything
from
soup
to
nuts
will
be
considered
in
that,
because
the
board
really
needs
a
full
fresh
look
to
see
what
is
going
on.
What
do
we
need
to
do,
and
you
know
we
really
want
to
know,
I'm
not
being
flipped
the
good,
the
bad
and
the
ugly.
G
So,
based
on
that
review,
if
this
firm
were
to
say
hey,
you
have
been
spending
a
lot
of
money
on
your
pension
benefits
and
they
say
well
consistent
with
other
organizations
that
are
like
size.
You
should
be
paying
a
different
amount,
that's
something
that
may
come
from
that
organization
and
it's
the
intention
of
the
board
to
review
those
type
of
policy
guidelines
and
then
make
a
decision
going
forward.
So
it's
a
good
possibility.
F
Sure
it
could
be
we'll
be
open
to
suggestions
and
recommendations
they
made
and,
as
I
said,
you
know,
we
just
want
to
do
what
is
consistent
with
industry
standards.
C
Good
morning
chairs
and
all
the
different
government
workers
that
are
here
today,
it's
good
to
see
everybody.
Thank
you
for
this
conversation
as
the
chair
of
the
streets
and
services
committee,
as
well
as
a
school
advocate.
This
is
something
that's
very
near
and
dear
to
my
heart.
Just
a
couple
questions
very
quickly.
First,
just
for
contextual
purposes.
C
Mrs
grossman,
can
you
please
explain
to
us
and
to
the
listener
audience
what
who
works
for
the
ppa,
as
it
relates
to
the
different
type
of
unions
that
have
employees
that
are
under
ppa.
So
when
I
think
about
not
just
the
folks
who
are
writing
tickets,
but
also
in
the
midst
of
council
member
gim's
presentation,
one
of
the
things
that
we
seen
was
that
there
were
issues
as
it
relates
to
hiring
practice:
nepotism,
upper
echelon
salaries,
who,
what
are
the
unions
that
represent
the
workers
over
at
the
ppa.
F
Certainly,
can
you
give
me
one
moment,
I'm
going
through
all
my
notes:
we
have
district
council
33
district
council
47,
our
teamsters
local
115,
twu
and
district
council
21,
and
I
commend
all
of
them
for
the
work
that
they
do
day
in
and
day
out.
C
As
do
I,
and
so
when
I
think
about
you,
know
those
unions
and
a
lot
of
the
parents
and
families
who
you
know
make
up
the
membership
of
those
unions.
A
lot
of
those
folks
are
like
parents
of
people
who
are
in
the
school
district
of
philadelphia,
specifically
thinking
about
what
I
know
about
those
unions,
as
well
as
some
of
the
requirements
based
on
city,
residency
and
things
of
that
capacity.
So
I
think
that
this
is
an
important
conversation
to
have,
as
it
relates
to
revenue.
C
F
Yes,
that
is
in
process
now
and
as
normally
during
our
timeline,
it's
usually
given
or
provided
by
the
end
of
june
or
july.
So
finance
is
currently
working
on
that
now.
C
How
close
are
you
normally
to
the
projected
revenue
based
on
your
estimations,
compared
to
how
much
you
actually
give?
So
I
looked
at
one
of
the
charts
said
that
only
18
of
the
revenue
that
was
promised
actually
goes
to
the
school
district.
If
I've
read
that
graphic
correctly,
it's
you
know,
we
promised
a
certain
amount
of
money
and
the
school
district
only
got
18
of
what
we
promised.
I'm
concerned
about
that,
not
just
because
of
the
revenue,
but
because
of
budget
projections
over
the
next
two
couple
years.
C
The
school
district
is
anticipating
a
deficit.
So
I'm
wondering
when
we
look
at
that
type
of
disproportionate
estimate.
How?
C
How
close
can
we
start
to
get
as
it
relates
to
our
projections,
so
we
can
put
ourselves
in
a
position
where
we
can
plan
for
the
anticipated
deficit
that
we
know
we're
going
to
face
in
a
couple
years.
I'm
sorry
did
that
question
make
sense.
A
Yeah
and
if
I
could
tara
grossman
chair
thomas,
I
just
want
a
quick
point
of
information.
A
The
slide
that
was
included
about
the
18
percent
was
based
off
the
original
promise
at
the
inception
of
the
parking
authority's
takeover
by
the
state,
which
originally
was
around
45
million
dollars
every
single
year,
but
for
tara
grossman,
regardless
of
whether
the
ppa
has
met
that
45
million
dollar
initially
promised
threshold,
which
it
to
be
clear,
never
has.
A
A
The
percent
of
on-street
revenues
going
to
the
school
district
of
philadelphia
is
around
10
of
of
on-street
revenues.
So
it
is
an
ongoing
question.
Do
you
have
a
goal?
I
think
is
what
council
member
thomas
is
asking
what
can
be
expected
because
it
certainly
does
feel
like
every
you
consistently
and
systematically
make
decisions
in
which
you
have
the
option
to
deliver
the
money
to
the
school
district
or
you
have
the
option
to
pay.
You
know
a
college
intern,
an
enormous
salary
or
to
fund
tuition
payments.
A
F
Okay,
first
of
all,
to
begin
with
that
45
million
dollar
level
that
was
repealed
in
2004..
Again,
I
will
reiterate
act.
9
of
2004
set
the
thresholds
for
what
we
are
required
to
give
to
the
city
and
then
the.
A
Point
of
clarification:
you
said
that
the
45
million
dollars
was
repealed
at
the
time
of
the
in
2004
was
the
time
that
it
was
creep
that
the
state
takeover
agency
was
created.
So
you're
saying
it
was
repealed
upon
its
creation.
It
was.
F
F
So
again,
as
I
stated
you
know
earlier,
we
meet
our
current
threshold
is
42.3
million
dollars
and
anything
which
is
given
to
the
city.
Anything
above
that
goes
to
the
school
district.
As
for
projections,
it's
a
little
bit
difficult
to
do
that.
So
many
things
come
into
play
whether
we
have
sufficient
amount
of
peos
on
the
street,
we're
subject
to
a
pandemic.
So
I
think
it's
very
hard
to
offer
projections.
C
C
What
I
would
just
ask
is
that,
can
we
see
a
commitment
to
work
with
the
ppa
moving
forward
to
put
us
in
a
position
to
be
able
to
better
understand
what
we
can
do
to
assure
some
type
of
accurate
estimates,
as
it
relates
to
the
school
district
of
philadelphia,
the
deficit
that
the
school
district
of
philadelphia
is
going
to
face
right,
and
the
reason
I
asked
about
the
membership
is
because
these
are
also
your.
These
are
also
your
folks
too,
because
their
children
go
to
these
schools.
C
The
deficit
that
the
school
district
is
going
to
face
in
a
couple
years
is
going
to
be
one.
That's
significant
and
praying
that
I'm
still
around
as
well
as
a
lot
of
my
colleagues.
You
know
we
are
going
to
be
in
a
position
where
we're
going
to
have
to
figure
out
where
this
revenue
is
going
to
come
from.
So
I
am
concerned
not
just
about
meeting
the
42.3
million
dollars,
but
when
we
don't
meet
it
to
be
able
to
understand
that.
C
Well,
ahead
of
time,
so
we
could
plan
but,
more
importantly,
to
understand
why
we
don't
need
it.
I
think
that
is
going
to
be
very
important
for
the
work
that
we
do
so
you
know
when
I
think
about
over
the
next
couple
years
and
looking
at
the
turnover
that
has
happened
at
ppa.
C
What
are
you
doing
to
essentially
put
us
in
a
position
to
feel
comfortable
with
the
direction
that
ppa
is
moving
in,
is
going
and
moving
forward,
as
it
relates
to
leadership,
government
relations,
folks,
upper
level
staff,
some
of
the
accusations
and
reports
that
we've
heard
what
is
the
plan
moving
forward
so
that
we
can
be
more
effective,
more
efficient
and
better
serve
the
constituents
of
philadelphia
co-chairs?
That
is
my
last
question.
F
Sure
I
think
again
going
forward
improving
our
policies,
procedures
and
practices
as
well
as
if
there
are
a
new
initiatives
or
expanding
things,
such
as
our
red
lake
program
or
our
or
speed
leg
program
or
other
initiatives
for
which
we
oversee
that
we
are
welcome.
You
know
we
want
to
have
good,
positive
and
thorough
financial
reviews
going
forward
and,
if
obviously-
and
and
if
anybody
on
city
council
wishes
to
meet
or
has
inquiries
about
our
reviews,
we
are
happy
to
meet
again.
A
You
know
I
want
to
thank
chair
councilmember
thomas
for
his
line
of
questioning.
I
also
want
to
remind
terra
grossman
that
you
are
the
chair
of
the
board
of
a
public
entity.
It
is
your
responsibility
to
have
projections.
It
is
your
responsibility
to
understand
costs,
certainly
ones
that
are
unpredicted
are
difficult,
but
that
is
partly
why
you
have
planning,
and
one
of
the
consistent
hallmarks
of
our
work
is
that
there
isn't
clear
planning
about
the
school
district
and
its
revenues.
A
In
fact,
it
appears
again
and
again
to
have
systematic
decisions
that
are
made
that
are
diverting
revenue
away
from
the
district
and
towards
voluntary
expenses
that
then
deduct
money
away
from
the
school
district
of
philadelphia.
I
want
to
make
that
very
clear.
It
is
your
responsibility
to
do
the
planning
that
is
necessary.
You
should
have
a
goal
for
the
district.
You
should
be
able
to
figure
out
as
council
member
thomas
explained,
if
you're
not
meeting
that
goal.
A
Why
you're
not
meeting
that
goal,
and
it
is
unacceptable
that
an
entity
you
know,
only
provides
this
district
less
than
10
of
revenues,
and
that
should
be
cause
for
a
concern.
This
is
not
an
accident,
it
is
not
due
to
unforeseen
circumstances
solely.
It
is
purposeful
practices
and
decisions
made
by
the
authority.
The
chair
recognizes
council
member
quinones
sanchez,
after
which
we
will
invite
council
member.
Oh.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
to
both
of
the
chairs
and
to
to
beth
grossman.
I
want
to
continue
a
little
bit
of
the
line
of
questioning,
but
I
also
want
to
thank
you
for
taking
on
this
role.
E
You
know
we
look
forward
to
you
and
the
new
members
putting
forth
some
of
this
vision
for
what
the
role
of
the
ppa
is,
and
in
that
regard
I
want
to
ask
you:
what
do
you
see
as
the
ppa's
mission
and
then
what
do
you
see
as
its
goal
as
as
its
goals
as
it
relates
to
its
intergovernmental
relationship
with
the
city
of
philadelphia
in
the
school
district.
F
Certainly,
and
if
I
may,
you
know,
I
will
just
read
what
our
mission
statement
is,
because
it's
always
important
for
the
public
to
know
that,
which
is
to
contribute
to
the
economic
vitality
of
philadelphia
and
the
surrounding
region
by
effectively
managing
and
providing
convenient
parking
on
the
street
at
the
airport
and
in
garages,
and
lots
effectively
operating
a
system
of
red
light,
camera
enforcement
regulating
taxi
cabs,
limousine
and
transportation,
network
companies
and
other
transportation
related
activities.
F
I
also
understand
that
part
of
that,
of
course,
is
to
contribute,
as
mandated
funds
to
both
the
city
of
philadelphia
and
the
school
district
going
forward.
We
want
to
run
efficiently
and
successfully
and
continue
to
be
able
to
meet
thresholds
and,
above
and
beyond,
hopefully
for
the
school
district.
F
But
the
other
thing
that
I
think
I
I
think
I
feel
comfortable
with
speaking
on
behalf
of
all
of
the
board,
is
that
we
are
also
committed
to
being
a
safety
agency
where
we
can
also
contribute,
like
many
other
city
agencies,
to
quality
of
life
and
public
safety.
F
You
know,
I
know
people
think
of
the
parking
authority
as
just
issuing
tickets,
but
there
are
so
many
positive
things
that
we
do,
such
as
overseeing
red
light
and
speed
like
cameras,
which
you
know,
decreases
fatalities
and
accidents,
we're
starting
to
enforce
our
bicycle
lane
enforcement
project
and,
I
think,
being
able
to
help
make
philadelphia.
As
I
like
to
say,
a
drivable,
parkable,
bikeable
and
walkable
city
is
an
extraordinary
thing.
F
I
know
our
deputy
executive
director,
corinne
o'connor,
has
testified
numerous
times
before
council
regarding
different
initiatives
such
as,
hopefully,
ppa
can
play
a
role
in
removing
abandon
the
thirty
four
thousand
abandoned
cars
throughout
the
city
tractor
trailers
that
are
parked
in
residential
areas
and
other
initiatives.
So
we
really
hope
to
work
with
all
partnerships-
the
legislative
branch,
executive
branch,
other
city
agencies,
to
make
philadelphia
what
it
can
be
and
reach
its
potential,
and
it's
a
very
exciting
time
with
a
very
collaborative
board.
F
E
I
appreciate
that
and
on
the
quality
of
life
neighborhood
issues.
I
think
there
is
a
role
for
you
to
play
as
it
relates
to
the
organizational
and
council
member
thomas
was
asking
about
this.
You
know
one
thing
is
to
have
a
fiscal
review
of
what
you're
doing
another
is
to
have
an
organizational
review
of
you
know.
Do
you
have
the
administrative
team
and
capacity
that
you
need?
Are
you
in
line
with
best
practices?
Can
you
speak
to
if
the
board
is
planning
any
organizational
review
of
functions
and
layers
in
your
administrative.
F
Team
absolutely
we're
deep
into
the
process
of
an
rfp,
getting
somebody
to
come
in
and
do
again
much
like
the
financial
piece
into
the
hr
piece.
Looking
at
all
our
policies
and
practices,
do
we
have
the
right
talent?
Are
we
dealing
with
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion?
Do
we
have
the
right
teams
and
other
things?
F
So
I
also
think,
as
I
said
before,
because
we
have
a
new
board
making
sure
we
have
the
right
people
and
we're
making
this
an
appropriate
and
good
welcome
in
place
for
folks
to
work
and
make
us
effective
with
the
most
talented
people
we're
looking
into
evaluating
that
as
well.
What's
the
timeline
for
that
review,
I
think
we
are
almost
complete
the
rfp
with
the
proposal
so
as
soon
as
I'm
I
have
not.
I
am
not
on
that
committee,
so
I
can't
speak
to
that.
E
Do
you
have
a
scope
of
services
that
you
would
be
willing
to
share
with
the
administration
and
council?
Yes,
yes,
if
you
could
get
that
over
to
the
church
that
that
that
would
be
important
and
then-
and
you
know.
Finally,
finally,
and
I
know
you
know-
I
hope
that
there
will
be
moving
forward
after
this
public
discussion,
an
opportunity
for
real
intergovernmental
discussions.
E
One
of
the
things
we've
learned,
whether
it's
the
pike
aboard
the
school
district,
one
of
the
things
that
has
helped
create
more
transparency,
has
been
this
kind
of
five-year
budgeting
situation.
Are
you
guys
open
to
doing
more
of
a
five-year
projecting?
I
you
know,
I
agree
with
all
of
my
colleagues
in
that
you
have
been
operating.
You
know
you
came
in
you're
doing
a
lot
of
cleanup,
but
moving
forward
to
build
some
of
that
trust
around
accountability.
E
F
E
E
There
are
some
growth
opportunities
for
the
agencies
that
will
improve
quality
of
life.
We'd
like
to
be
part
of
that
conversation
because
we're
making
choices
when
we
do
that
and
when
we're
bringing
more
online
business
services.
That
comes
at
an
expense,
and
we
all
want
to
make
sure
that
we
all
agree
that
that
that
that
that
is
worth
it
so
so
yeah.
So
I
I
you
know.
E
I
would
hope
that,
in
your
conversations
with
our
finance
director,
with
orie
at
the
school
district,
their
experience
with
the
five-year
plan
that
that
is
something
that
the
board
would
adopt
as
a
best
practice
right,
and
I
think
it
would
lead
to
building
some
of
this
trust
that
we're
trying
to
get
to
here-
and
I
know
you're
coming
in
at
a
very
difficult
situation.
But
this
has
been
you
know
20
plus
year
conversation.
So
what
you
know,
I
think
what
you're
hearing
is
a
level
of
frustration.
E
It's
what
we
hear
when
we're
out
in
the
street
right
like
ppa
knows
how
to
write.
Tickets.
Ppa
knows
right
tickets,
you
know
how
does
that
translate
to
more
predictability
for
the
school
district,
so
I
look
forward
to
you
know
working
with
you
and
and
our
chairs,
as
as
we
go
through
this
process,
I
think
the
more
your
policies
are
in
line
the
more
your
hr
stuff
is
more
transparent.
E
All
of
those
things
I
think
the
better
people
are
going
to
feel
around
your
decision-making
capacity
and-
and
you
know
what
your
mission
is,
I
think
there's
a
real
concern
about
a
bloated
agency
versus
an
an
efficient
agency
that
are
very,
very
legitimate
and
I
know
you're
taking
those
seriously.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
E
You
very
much
chair
and
let's
see
good
morning,
chairperson,
thank
you
for
being
here.
I
I
just
wanted
to
provide
a
level
of
information
since,
as
it
turns
out,
I
guess,
if
you've
been
around
long
enough,
you,
you
know
something
right.
E
So
so
I'm
going
to
later
distribute
a
22
slide,
powerpoint
kind
of
on
the
history
of
this
issue,
just
especially
for
for
our
our
newer
colleagues
to
to
understand
kind
of
what
is
the
background
about
what
we
can
and
what
we
cannot
do
as
a
city
council
and
why
there
is
complexities
with
the
parking
authority.
E
I
don't
think
anybody's
fought
more
with
the
parking
authority
than
I
have
over
the
history
of
time
from
resolutions
that
have
independent
auditing
by
the
controller
and
ultimately,
also
a
resolution
for
the
attorney
general,
who
is
actually
the
only
person
in
this
state
that
can
actually
fully
audit
the
parking
authority
and
the
attorney
general
assigned
it
to
the
auditor
general,
that's
kind
of
in
the
state
law
and
some
of
the
reasons
why
that
has
occurred.
So
originally
the
city
created
an
authority
to
issue
bonds
to
to
build
parking
facilities.
E
It
later
then
empowered
that
authority
to
do
on
street
enforcement
and
that
authority
was
controlled
by
the
city
and
at
a
certain
point
in
time
there
was
a
takeover
of
that
authority
specifically
to
fund
the
schools.
In
other
words,
it's
illegal
and
unconstitutional
to
to
take
a
a
city,
entity,
department
or
function
under
article
3,
section
32
of
the
pennsylvania
constitution,
specifically
forbades
it,
because
that
was
a
practice
by
the
state
at
that
point
in
time.
E
So
one
it's
it's
illegal
to
do
number
two.
If
you
do
that,
you
need
a
state
need,
and
so
what
was
created
in
the
first
act
act.
22
was
the
claim
that,
because
the
state
was
now
responsible
for
the
philadelphia
school
district
and
could
not
afford
to
fund
it.
Therefore
it
was
not
a
small
amount
of
money,
wasn't
5
million
or
6
million.
They
said
it
was
up
to
45
million
a
year
up
to,
but
in
supreme
court
cases
in
every
appeal
that
the
city
and
the
state
was
engaged
with
the
parking
authority.
E
In
particular,
the
claim
was
that
the
state
could
not
afford
the
45
million
dollars,
so
it
was
clearly
identified
as
45
million
dollars
at
minimum
per
year
that
the
state
was
obliged
to
give
to
the
city
that
it
could
not
afford.
That's
how
that
came
about
45
million,
and
while
this
was
litigated
in
state
court
numerous
times
and
by
the
way
the
city
never
got
past
initial
filings.
E
It
actually
never
went
to
court
on
this
because
it
primarily
made
a
claim
under
the
homeworld
charter,
which
was
continuously
dismissed
and
in
all
its
machinations.
During
that
time,
they
were
arguing
about
the
initial
filing
of
this
case,
which
was
you
know,
the
taking
of
the
school
district
and
the
claim
of
45
million.
In
the
meantime,
even
though
they're
arguing
this
in
court,
the
legislature
had
changed
to
act.
E
Nine
and
the
reason
in
part
that
was
done
was
because
under
the
src,
the
city
could
not
give
the
school
district
money
without
being
obliged
to
give
that
same
amount
of
money
every
year
thereafter.
So,
for
example,
if
the
school
district
needed
25
million
and
the
city
had
an
extra
25
million,
if
the
city
gave
25
million
to
the
school
district,
it
would
be
obliged
to
give
the
school
district
25
million
every
year.
Thereafter,
therefore,
kind
of
in
a
situation
which
might
have
been
cooperative
between
the
city
and
the
state
and
the
parking
authority.
E
But
then
the
excess
would
go
to
the
school
district,
but
the
july
2012
statute,
which
was
done
by
the
state
legislature,
which
had
just
unilaterally
by
itself
extended
the
cooperation
agreement
that
july
2012
statute,
just
empowered
the
parking
authority
to
enforce
and
administer
all
on-street
parking
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
without
any
cooperation
agreement.
So
the
issue
has
been
the
lack
of
a
cooperation
agreement,
the
illegal
seizing
of
the
parking
authority.
You
know
from
the
city
of
philadelphia.
E
So
only
the
attorney
general
can
actually
do
that,
and
it
was
done-
and
there
were
failings
found
in
that
part,
so
fundamentally
what
we
can
and
what
we
cannot
do,
what
the
state
will
allow
with
the
parking
authority
ultimately
will
come
down
to
the
voluntary
cooperation
of
the
parking
authority
number
one
and
number
two,
whether
or
not
we
have,
and
I
believe
we
do
a
legal
case
to
take
back
on-street
parking
in
order
to
get
back
to
a
cooperation
agreement.
E
So
that's
kind
of
the
history
of
this,
and
I
will
distribute
that
just
so
that
everybody
does
kind
of
understand
the
history
of
of
what
has
occurred
and
why
it
has
developed
in
this
manner.
Thank
you
very
much,
chair.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
council
member,
oh
so,
chair
grossman,
you
know,
one
of
the
areas
that
we
are
focused
on
is
specifically
clarifying
the
details
regarding
the
ppa's
annual
calculation
of
expenses
that
are
deductible
from
on-street
revenues.
A
Could
you
could
you
please
put
for
the
record
the
types
of
expenses
that
have
been
deducted
from
the
on-street
revenue
division?
What
is
your,
what
are
they
and
how
would
you
characterize
them.
F
So
accept
law,
we
transfer
revenues
of
the
system
of
onstreet
parking
regulation
net
to
the
operating
administrative
systems,
expenses
of
the
system
of
on
street
parking,
and
that's
that's
what
it
is.
A
That
would
that
would
make
sense,
and
I
think
that
that
is
something
that
has
been
commonly
understood.
I
think
one
of
the
questions
is
you
know.
A
Long-Term
liability,
including
the
which
is
the
opeb
funding,
would
not
be
considered
a
typical
direct
expense
of
on-street
revenues.
It's
not
a
day-to-day
operational
expense.
It's
long-term
liability,
in
fact,
in
the
earlier
iterations
of
the
state
law
that
was
specifically
prohibited,
and
at
no
point
in
time
did
you
ever
inform
the
school
district
of
philadelphia?
Did
the
authority
ever
inform
the
school
district
of
philadelphia
that
those
calculations
have
been
factored
into
the
reductions
that
would
otherwise
go
to
the
school
district?
A
You
know
in
the
district's
letter
to
the
philadelphia
parking
authority
on
january
25th
of
this
year,
they
had
requested
a
review
of
the
history
of
calculations
around
opeb
funding.
So,
following
up
on
that,
how
long
has
long-term
opeb
and
pension
calculations
been
factored
into
the
on-street
revenue
reductions.
F
To
my
laws,
I
believe
it
began
in
2018
and
do
you
know
the
amount?
No
excuse
me,
I'm
sorry,
beginning
into
fy
2008.
A
F
I
could
say
is
what
I
will
tell
you
is
number
one.
I
must
reiterate
again.
I
was
not
here
okay,
so
I'm
only
telling
the
analysis
as
to
what
has
been
given
to
me
and
as
I've
read
before
I'm
happy
to
read
it
again.
If
you
wish
beginning
in
fy
2008
consistent
with
the
government
accounting
standards
board
statement,
45,
the
authority
began
recording
an
expense
for
the
future
cost
of
retiree
health
benefits,
as
determined
by
an
actual
actuarial
report.
A
Thank
you,
everybody
for
your
patience.
Well,
we
are
trying
to
reconnect
philadelphia
parking
authority
board
chair
beth
grossman
to
the
meeting.
B
Here
again,
ppa
board,
chair
grossman
is
re-entering.
F
Forgive
me:
that's
no
problem.
We
all
have
it
technology.
The
actuary
recommended
an
annual
amount
to
record
and
fund
the
liability
over
a
20-year
period
and
the
cash
for
that
expense
was
held
in
authority
accounts
for
future
investment
in
an
opeb
trust.
The
total
amount
accumulated
from
fy
2009
through
fy
2018
was
16
million
dollars
and
again
in
2018,
a
recommendation
was
made
to
convert
insurance
reserves
from
cash
to
letters
of
credit.
Those
accounts
were
funded
in
the
same
manner
as
indicated
opec
as
an
indicated.
F
Opeb
expense
that
made
11.5
million
dollars
available
to
further
fund
the
opeb
liability
and
again
also
to
further
reiterate
chair.
The
opeb
expense
is
a
separate
line
item
under
personal
personnel,
expense
in
the
budget
and
on
monthly
income
statements
are
is2s
for
every
department,
the
budget
and
all
monthly
income
statements
are
presented
and
approved
at
public
board
meetings
and
are
included
in
the
minutes
posted
on
the
authority
website.
F
The
documents
are
provided
to
and
reviewed
with,
finance
officials
of
the
city
and
school
district
and
the
authority's
independent
audit
also
includes
the
opeb
liability,
as
well
as
the
amount
funded
in
the
trust,
and
the
audit
report
is
reviewed,
accepted
by
the
board
posted
on
the
authority
website
and
again.
It's
provided
to
officials
of
the
city
and
the
commonwealth
of
pennsylvania.
A
I
mean
notably
the
is-2s
were
requested
by
subpoena
and
were
not
returned
to
us
as
part
of
our
subpoenaed
request.
Just
to
be
clear,
can
you
commit
that
the
isu's
will
be
resubmitted
back
to
us
and
will
not
appear
in
a
pdf
format?
Actually,
it
is
pretty
disappointing
that
the
ppa
gave
us
documents
750
pages
worth
in
a
single
pdf
document.
That
is
not
a
standard
return.
A
A
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
mean
again,
could
you
you
know
we
you,
and
I
had
just
you
had
said
very
clearly
that
the
understanding
of
what
are
the
expenses
of
on-street
revenue
should
be
the
expenses
of
on-state
revenue.
You
know
what
are
the
direct
costs
of
day-to-day
operations
on
it?
A
A
Can
you
clarify
which
of
the
following
types
of
expenses
have
also
been
calculated
as
part
of
on-street
revenue?
Do
you
consider
capital
expenses
such
as
construction,
maintenance,
purchase
of
properties
and
facilities
to
be
part
of
the
on-street
revenue
expenses.
A
A
A
F
A
Well,
that
is
partly
why
we
did
request
again.
You
know
that
this
hearing
had
to
include
individuals
who
could
answer
that
question.
Is
there
nobody
who
is
with
you
today
who
can
answer
that
question.
A
Do
you
also
include
how
do
you,
how
do
you
distribute?
How
do
you
calculate
I
mean
opeb
overall,
is
the
overall
retirement
fund
for
the
entire
school
district?
I
mean
for
the
entire
parking
authority
amongst
you
have
multiple
divisions,
as
you
know,
so
how
do
you
exactly
calculate
the
school
district's
contribution
into
opeb.
F
It's
the
same,
you
know
it's
the
same
allocation
and
again
it's
for
health
care.
Only.
It
is
not
pension.
B
F
A
You
know
again
to
be
clear
when
you
say
is
the
same:
the
school
district
of
philadelphia
had
repeatedly
made
this
request
as
of
october,
at
which
point
you
were
the
chair
of
the
board
and
for
more
than
seven
months
up
until
you
know
now,
they
had
not
received
a
response
about
this.
So
when
you
say
it's
the
same,
actually
we
don't
know
what
you're
talking
about
you
know
we
had.
This
is
also
partly
why
we're
very
clear
that
the
documents
that
you
submitted
to
us
again
are
insufficient.
A
They
did
not
make
that
clear
and
it
is
impossible
to
discern
whether
or
how
you
are
making
these
calculations.
So
do
you
have
some
means
of
documentation?
That
shows
what
is
you
know,
specifically
the
on-street
revenue
contributions
where
they
come
from,
what
personnel
they
attach
to,
etc.
That
allows
us
to
ensure
that
these
are
truly
revenue
on
street
revenue
expenses
and
not
simply
a
division
of
the
parking
authority's
payments
into
open.
A
We
can
provide
that.
Do
you
know
when
no
can
you
commit
to
30
days?
Yes,
so,
and
can
you
one
of
the
other
things
that
we
had
requested
in
the
subpoena?
In
the
subpoena
was
a
clear
cost
allocation
document,
the
one
that
was
provided
to
us
again
did
not
cover
any
of
these
areas.
A
So
can
we
sit
down
with
you,
the
school
district
and
the
city
of
philadelphia,
to
review
the
cost
allocation
document
that
you
submitted
to
us
review?
Why
it
is
inadequate
and
make
sure
that
the
one
that
does
get
submitted
in
the
next
30
days
adequately
answers
the
questions
that
are
requested
by
the
city,
the
school
district
and
this
council
body.
F
A
All
right,
thank
you.
I
think
the
other
areas
that
we
had
questions
about.
A
You
know
there
are
a
number
of
questions
about.
You
know
we'll
touch
base
on
a
few
things,
including
you
know.
A
I
guess
one
of
the
questions
I
do
have
is
a
little
bit
around
the
ppa's
records
that
showed
that
multiple
high
school
interns,
with
a
salary
of
nearly
twenty
thousand
dollars
and
college
interns,
were
hired
in
the
on-street
division.
With
a
salary
of
thirty
one
thousand
six
hundred
fifty
seven
thousand
dollars.
F
F
F
A
Is
there
anybody
who
is
with
you?
Who
can
answer
that
question?
No,
do
you
believe
that
that
would
be
a
good
use
of
public
funds,
given
that
there
was
a
choice
made
about
the
amount
of
money
that
could
go
towards
the
school
district
of
philadelphia.
A
F
A
Okay,
in
addition,
could
you
answer
questions
about
the
pay
of
ppa
executive
salaries
that
exceed
you
know,
for
example,
the
cost
of
boston's
commissioner
transportation
and
parking
by
91
000?
This
is
from
the
2019
controllers
report
and
the
ppa
senior
director
of
on
street
parking
receives
a
180
thousand
dollar
annual
salary
which
exceeds
comparable
positions
in
miami
pittsburgh
portland
by
25,
26
000.
A
62
000.66
dollars.
Respectively.
Could
you
answer
questions
about
the
choice
to
make
on-street
revenue
salaries
so
excessively
high
and
out
of
whack
with
most
or
with
comparable
parking
authorities
across
the
country.
F
A
A
A
So
the
ppas,
as
I
noted,
the
ppa
executive
salaries,
are
among
the
highest
amongst
comparable
parking
organizations
according
to
a
2019
report.
But
the
ppa
pays
its
a
parking
enforcement
officers,
the
lowest
amongst
comparable
authorities.
Can
you
explain
the
discrepancy
between
executive
salary
and
parking
enforcement
officer,
salaries
and.
A
Okay,
again
not
asking
whether
you're
happy
to
are
you
planning
to
review
those
salary
structures.
A
Our
no
my
question
is:
are
you
planning
to
not?
Are
you
happy
to?
Maybe
it's
like
a
question
about
rhetoric,
but
I'm
trying
to
go
for
clarity
here?
Are
you
planning
to
yes
or
no?
Yes,
okay
and
you
know,
if
you
don't
have
a
comment
on
on
that.
Can
you
personally
state
because
you
are
the
board
chair,
can
you
personally
state
your
opinion
on
the
discrepancy
between
the
salaries
amongst
executives
and
your
lowest
and
your
parking
enforcement
officers,
as
well
as
the
high
rate
of
salaries
amongst
executives?
No,
I'm.
F
F
F
A
Okay,
I
am
going
to
turn
to
council
member
squilla
who
has
a
question
in
the
queue.
So
the
chair
recognizes
council
members,
willa.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
appreciate
it,
and,
and
thank
you
for
your
questioning.
My
question
is
is
just
a
basic
question.
Is
that
I
hear
that
you
know
you
say
that
you're
going
to
be
working
closer
with
council
legislative
body.
What
what
ways
do
you
see?
You
will
be
doing
that
and
will
be
different
than
it
was
previously.
F
Well
again,
I
can't
speak
about
what
was
done
previously,
because
I
wasn't
here,
but
I'm
always
open
and
welcome
to
explore
pilot
programs
or
things
that
will
improve
the
quality
of
life
or
public
safety
for
people
in
the
different
councilmanic
districts
or
across
city
wide
or
if
anybody
or
if
any
council
person
has
a
question
for
ppa
or
any
ideas.
We
welcome
that
as
well.
We're
all
part
of
making
philadelphia
a
better
place.
F
B
Was
asking
I
mean
we
are
doing
something
currently
now
we
have
the
sound
meter
cameras
that
we're
looking
at
working
with
the
ppa
and
how
to
implement
that.
I
think
you
know
we
could
have
a
good
working
relationship
together.
We
should
have
a
good
working
relationship
together,
so
I
mean
I
think
there
are
opportunities
for
us
to
do
that,
and
I
think
that
collaboration
builds
trust
amongst
each
other
and,
I
think,
goes
a
long
way
to
getting
things.
B
You
know
parking
authority
is
a
big
arm
of
the
city
enforcement
mechanism
and
for
parking
for
parking
lots.
So
you
know,
I
think,
by
working
together
we
will
actually
improve
the
city
instead
of
working
in
separate
directions,
so
I
mean
I'm
looking
forward
to
that
collaboration.
B
I
I
must
say
that
during
this
process
with
this
legislation
that
I
introduced,
that
the
parking
authority
has
been
great
in
advising
us
and
giving
us
ideas
and
also
reaching
out
to
other
places
that
have
done
this
and
and
looking
at
other
vendors
and
looking
for
vendors
and
things
like
that.
So
I
think
that's
more
of
the
things
we
we
need
to
be
doing,
and
I
think
we
see
that
opportunity
is
there.
So
I
just
want
to.
A
Thank
you
so
much
councilmember
squilla,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
pointing
out
this
important
dialogue
about
collaboration.
A
As
you
know,
colleagues,
director
finance
director
rob
debose
submitted
to
all
of
us
and
which
we
distributed
a
formal
testimony
that
discussed
one
of
the
areas
where
we
see
the
most
potential
for
collaboration,
and
that
is
around
his
statement
and
I'm
going
to
take
a
moment
to
read
his
statement.
He
wrote
that,
prior
to
2012,
through
an
agreement
between
the
city
and
the
philadelphia
parking
authority
and
the
subsequent
state
law,
the
mayor
had
substantial
authority
over
the
ppa's
budget.
A
That
authority
included
the
parking
authority
being
required
to
consult
with
and
ultimately
receive
approval
of
the
city
through
the
finance
director
for
its
budget.
Moreover,
the
ppa
was
required
to
provide
the
city
with
monthly
statements
regarding
its
receipts
and
expenditures,
annual
staffing
summaries
and
a
monthly
variance
analysis
for
any
variance
in
monthly
and
or
year-to-date
revenue
of
expenses
which
exceeded
10
percent
of
budget
or
10
000.
A
Finally,
the
finance
director
was
authorized
to
require
mid-year
budget
changes
in
the
event
of
a
cost
overrun
or
revenue
shortfall.
The
2012
legislation
took
that
authority
away
from
the
city
and
giving
it
much
less
ability
to
affect
what
happens
to
operations
that
directly
impact
its
finances
and
that's
the
end
of
director
dubose
statement.
A
Additionally,
I
think
colleagues,
as
you
note,
we
discussed
that
in
2012
you
know
the
parking
authority
came
before
this
council
body
had
requested
an
increase
by
more
than
50
of
an
increase
in
meter
fees,
promising
that
the
school
district
would
see.
Those
revenues
come
to
fruition,
18
million
dollars
a
year
that
amount
of
money
was
never
delivered
and
again,
as
I
said
earlier,
my
opening
remarks
that
that
money
actually
declined.
A
It
did
not
grow.
So
two
director
debose
statement
makes
clear
that
the
city
of
philadelphia
would
like
to,
and
I
would
echo
that
from
our
council
body
would
like
to
reinstate
the
2012.
You
know
the
pre-2012
understanding
in
which
the
city
of
philadelphia
has
sign-off
authority
on
the
parking
authority's
budget.
A
The
grave
concerns
regarding
recent
organizational
leadership
changes
and
the
failure
to
fully
deliver
on
financial
promises
made
by
the
district,
including
to
be
clear,
tara,
grissman.
Under
your
watch.
The
11
million
dollar
mistake
about
the
pension
fund
was
on
your
watch.
It
was
informed
to
the
district
in
october
of
2021,
there
was
almost
seven
months
that
had
to
go
by
before
it
was
resolved
and
no
answers
were
ever
given
to
the
district.
F
F
A
You
know
nothing
prevents
you
from
providing
some
of
that
information
to
us
you
actually.
So
I
want
to
be
clear.
A
A
F
A
And
nothing
to
be
clear:
nothing
prevents
the
board
from
voluntarily
providing
this.
It's
not
prohibited
by
state
law.
The
state
law
in
2012
merely
removed
the
requirement,
but
the
board,
in
a
spirit
of
collaboration,
recognizing
serious
concerns
shifts
in
financial
management
and
oversight
over
the
entity.
A
A
F
F
A
Can
the
parking
authority
commit
to
providing
quarterly
financial
statements
to
the
school
district
and
to
to
the
city
of
philadelphia,
particularly
around
expenses,
salaries
and
any
shifts
in
policy
that
would
have
a
significant
impact
on
school,
district
and
or
city
revenues?.
A
Okay,
and
will
the
board
consider
approval
and
consultation
with
the
school
district
of
philadelphia
and
the
city
of
philadelphia
around
major
policy
shifts
that
could
have
an
impact
on
revenues
again.
B
A
We
are
going
to
go
back
to
a
couple
of
additional
questions.
You
know,
I
think
one
of
the
questions
that
we
have.
I
just
want
to
follow
up
with
council
member
dom's
questions
about
lot
9
in
particular,
as
you
know,
the
ppa
sunk,
3.6
million
dollars
on
building
renovations,
construction,
consultants
and
office
furniture
on
a
new
headquarters
in
a
location
known
as
lot
9..
A
This
was
money
that
was
deducted
from
on-street
revenues
but
was
never
communicated
to
the
school
district
of
philadelphia.
According
to
l,
I
this
work
was
performed
without
any
of
the
necessary
permits
and
inspections
and,
as
a
result,
the
office
building
did
not
receive
a
certificate
of
occupancy,
but
the
ppa
moved
its
workers
into
the
building.
Nonetheless,
only
to
have
them
move
out
in
less
than
a
month
due
to
what
we
understand
to
be
terrible
plumbing
problems
that
rendered
the
building
effectively
unusable.
A
So
could
you
clarify
for
us
how
much
exactly
did
the
ppa
spend
on
all
aspects
of
the
lot
9
project
and
specifically,
what
amounts
of
that
came
out
of
the
on-street
revenue
division?
First,.
F
A
F
A
Costs
related
to
the
lot9
project
were
deducted
from
on-street
revenue.
Is
that
correct?
That
is
correct?
Okay,
that's
what
you're
saying
so,
who
made
the
decision
to
at
least
build
a
move
to
the
slot
9
project.
F
F
A
Okay,
if
the
money
didn't
come
out
of
the
school
district
of
philadelphia,
where
did
the
money?
Where
were
the
revenues
coming
from
for
the
lot
nine
project.
F
That
that
I
don't
know
that
I
can
get
back
to
again.
That
was
before
me.
A
The
decision
to
rescind
it,
though,
was
was
not
under
your
leadership.
You
were
in
on
september,
2021.
A
F
A
What
kind
of
internal
controls
or
review
processes
to
do
you
currently
have
in
place
to
find
you
know
to
assure
protections
on
this
or
who
is
actually
looking?
You
know
out
about
it.
These
are
a
number
of
questions
that
we
had
asked
through
the
formal
processes.
I'm
just
trying
to
understand.
A
What
is
your
oversight
on
revenues
that
would
allow
you
not
to
know
where
the
revenues
come
from
finance
and
legal
counsel?
That's
where
okay,
so
you
find
it,
you
have
your
finance,
who
your
cfo
is
no
longer
present.
Is
that
correct,
correct
and
your
legal
counsel,
and
who
is
your
current
legal
counsel
dennis.
F
A
A
Okay,
and
did
you
say
you
don't
have
a
current
acting
cfo?
Is
that
right?
A
A
I
do
want
to
ask
a
little
bit
about.
A
Certain
areas
regarding
going
back
to
hiring
I
mean
one
of
the
things
that
we
had
discussed
was
that
the
parking
authority
has
500
percent
more
employees
than
comparable
parking
authorities
across
the
country.
Many
of
these
access-
these
jobs
go
to
individuals
who
are
politically
connected.
A
A
2019
audit
by
the
city
controller
found
that
it
was
23
or
25
employees
of
107
employees,
sampled,
either
held
political
positions
or
resided
with
someone
who
did
and
specifically
21
employees
were
or
lived
with
a
committee
person,
two
or
ward
leaders,
two
were
committee
and
two
were
both
committee
members
and
ward
leaders
and
the
study
did
not
count.
Employees
who
might
otherwise
have
had
influential
political
connections
such
as
close
friends
extended
family
members.
A
So
again,
I
think
some
these
positions
make
up
more
than
a
quarter
of
the
workforce.
Can
you
explain
why
that
is
the
case?.
F
F
A
So
I
think
earlier
you
know,
chair
grossman.
One
of
the
things
that
you
had
said
is
that
you
are,
you,
know,
attentive
to
and
should
be
attentive
to
reports
that
have
been
done
by
the
authority,
including
recommendations
that
have
been
made,
and
you
have
been
the
chair
since
september
of
2021
or
you've
been
the
chair
since
october
of
2021.,
and
I'm
trying
to
understand
you
know.
While
I
unders
again
I'm
clear
that
you
may
not
be
responsible
for
the
past,
you
are
responsible
for
what
happens
from
the
moment.
A
You
stepped
onto
the
board,
and
that
includes
being
aware
of
areas
that
have
been
publicly
reported
as
glaring
areas
of
of
problems
and
not
willfully.
Responding
knowing
or
investigating
raises
questions
about
neglect
or
willfulness
about
not
doing
that.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
give
you
some
area
to
respond
back
about
why
you're
not
interested
in
paying
attention
to
inquiring
about
or
seeing
any
changes
around
an
area.
That's
been
highlighted
before.
F
Please
don't
put
words
in
my
mouth.
Second
of
all,
we
are
committed
to
making
our
hiring
process
open
and
fair.
We
look
forward
to
people
applying
on
our
website.
We
look
forward
to
hiring
the
people
who
are
the
most
qualified
and
have
the
best
skills
for
their
jobs.
So
to
think
that
I'm
neglected
this
or
not
concern,
that's
not
so.
A
Okay,
I
asked
you
specifically
about
positions
and
whether
there
had
been
any
changes
around
particularly
patronage
positions,
political
hirings.
You
said
that
you
were
not
interested.
You
don't
ask
about
that.
F
And
I'm
certainly
you
know,
but
I
don't
ask
you
know
all
I
could
say.
Is
you
know
it?
No,
I
first
of
all
I
don't
want
it
to
be
a
place
of
patronage.
Second
of
all,
we're
happy
again
to
explore
this
with
our
third
party
hr
person
who's
coming
in
to
look
at
this.
But
again
the
board
is
committed
to
hiring
those
people
who
want
to
work
here
wish
to
have
careers
here
are
the
best
people
to
hire
for
the
job.
We
want
talented
folks
who
are
committed
to
the
mission.
The
parking
authority.
A
And
I
appreciate
that
I
do.
I
do
think
it's
notable,
though,
that
your
website
still
allows
people
to
randomly
apply
for
a
job,
even
though
it
may
not
be
listed,
so
they
can
just
submit
things,
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
typical,
of
most
public
agencies
or
in
a
public
hiring
process.
F
G
G
Yeah
chair
just
wanted
during
the
colloquy,
with
co-chair
kim,
you
made
reference
to
human
resources
professional.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
that
earlier
when
I
was
asking
questions,
you
may
reference
to
bring
a
third-party
entity
to
come
in
to
review
the
finances,
the
positions,
staffing
policies
from
a
financial
perspective,
but
in
your
conversation
with
counselor
mcginn,
you
may
refer
to
human
resources.
G
Is
that
a
separate
entity
that
you're
bringing
in
or
is
it
the
same
entities
going
reviewing
both
human
resources
as
well
as
financial
position
structure?
All
above.
G
And
so
have
you
issued
a
rfp?
Are
you
drafting
rfp
and
what's
the
timeline
for
this
hr
third-party
entity
to
come
in.
F
Rfp
has
been
issued.
I
think
we
are
reviewing
those
that
have
been
submitted
again.
I
I
can
find
that
answer
after
you,
I'm
not
on
that
committee,
but
we're
well
underway.
I
think,
with
the
receipt
of
people
who
have
submitted.
G
So
then,
within
the
board,
you've
established
a
committee
to
focus
on
hr
issues.
You
issue
the
rfp
that
committee's
going
to
review
the
responses,
make
a
selection.
I
guess
we
recommend
that
selection
to
entire
board
and
then
that
hr
committee
will
then
be
working
with
this
third
party
consultant
to
review
positive
procedures
within
park
authority
and
then
at
some
point
after
view
that
information
presented
to
the
board
for
ideas
and
or
adoption
for
a
change
that
may
occur
within
the
organization.
G
And
so
all,
and
on
the
financial
side,
a
similar
process
is
also
occurring.
You
have
a
committee
of
the
board,
that's
working
on
financial
issues.
This
issue
in
the
rfp
will
have
a
third-party
entity
come
in
to
review
that
information
review
the
work
that
they
do
then
make
the
recommendations
to
the
board
for
the
board
to
adopt
changes.
They
may
take
going
forward.
G
Okay
and
what's
the
timeline,
I
know
the
timeline
for
the
financial
review
he
said
was
three
months
so
the
time
of
executing
the
contract.
What's
the
timeline
on
the
hr
perspective.
G
And,
and
for
both
the
hr
review
and
also
the
financial
review,
have
you
identified
a
range
of
dollars
for
that
cost?.
F
You
mean
what
they
submit.
They
submitted
different
costs.
Obviously
there's
a
different
range
of
how
much
it
costs
from
each
one.
So
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
hr
one
with
regard
to
the
finance
one.
Yes,.
F
F
G
A
A
This
is
particularly
important
given
the
refusal
to
commit
to
the
requests
some
of
the
requests
by
the
city
finance
director.
We
cannot
possibly
know
how
you're
spending
public
money
based
on
incomplete
documents
and
the
answers
that
were
given
today.
So
we
want
to
make
it
clear
that
we
will
still
be
requesting
those
documents
from
you.
We
will
put
it
in
writing.
A
We
would
prefer
not
to
have
to
subpoena,
but
if
necessary,
we
will
do
so,
but
I
think
if
we
can
have
a
commitment
from
you
that
a
response
will
be
given
within
the
next
30
days
that
we
don't
have
to
go
through
a
formal
subpoena
process
as
we
had
as
we
felt
that
we
had
to
before.
A
A
We
don't
feel
like
that
was
a
good
step,
and
would
we
would
request
that
future
documents
to
this
committee
and
to
this
council
body
be
delivered
in
a
manner
that
would
be
reflective
of
a
real
interest
in
in
the
collaborative
work
necessary
to
correct
past
mistakes
so
that
we
don't
repeat
them
going
forward
into
the
future.
A
I
would
like
to
thank
all
the
panels
and
witnesses
for
their
participation
today.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
and
you
can
disconnect
before
we
formally
conclude
co-chair
green.
I
wanted
to
offer
any
time
for
any
of
my
colleagues
to
offer
any
other
closing
remarks
or
questions.
G
Yeah
I
just
like
to
make
a
point.
I
just
hope
that,
as
we
are
moving
forward
with
this
new
leadership
of
the
philadelphia
park
authority
that
these
moves
forward
in
the
spirit
of
collaboration
and
reference
to
addressing
some
of
these
issues,
look
forward
to
getting
more
information
regarding
the
review
that
will
be
done
by
the
hr
entity
as
well
as
your
financial
entity.
G
In
reference
to
how
the
park
authority
can
improve
as
an
organization
and
also
I'm
sure
they
have
their
own
suggestions
regarding
the
operations
and
financial
and
fiscal
managers,
fiscal
matters
of
the
organization,
and
hopefully,
that
we
are
now
moving
in
a
new
direction,
with
a
spirit
of
collaboration
both
for
the
organization
and
activities.
It's
trying
to
achieve
within
the
city
of
philadelphia.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
coacher
green
for
those
comments.
I'd
also
like
to
offer
a
few
closing
remarks
as
well.
You
know.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
the
viewing
public
for
the
time
that
you
spent
watching
this
hearing.
A
We
came
into
it
with
the
level
of
seriousness
and,
of
course,
came
into
it
under
you
know,
at
a
time
when
the
parking
authority
had
made
what
you
know
see
school
district
cfo,
ori
monson
said
was
just
absolutely
unprecedented,
even
in
amongst
its
20-year
history
of
fraught,
you
know
financial
relationships
with
the
school
district
of
philadelphia,
and
that
was
an
11
million
dollar
quote-unquote
accounting
error
and
we're
not
really
sure
exactly
what
that
is,
and
you
know,
and
that
that
had
not
been
previously
shared.
A
Many
of
the
questions
that
we
asked
today
remain
unanswered,
including
regarding
the
details
of
how
the
ppa
determines
the
calculations
of
its
city
and
district
contributions
each
year.
What
the
universe
of
expenses
are
that
are
deducted
from
on-street
revenue
streams
which
go
towards
the
school
district
of
philadelphia
and
the
city
of
philadelphia.
A
There
are
unanswered
questions
raised
by
my
colleagues
that
are
outstanding
regarding
the
impact
of
past
parking
authority
mistakes
and
the
impact
on
school
district
funding,
and
you
know
once
again,
we
are
in
a
place
where
we
are
starting
over.
Additionally,
while
we
welcome
third
party
of
ppa
financial
practices,
as
stated
by
councilmember
gatier,
if
the
ppa
hires
them
they're,
not
technically
independent,
they
aren't
they
aren't
independent
period,
and
you
know
we
welcome.
A
We
have
learned
clearly
from
the
past
that
these
reviews
and
statements
about
pending
policy
changes
are
no
guarantee
that
anything
ever
changes
at
the
authority
and
especially
concerning
is
the
current
state
of
the
ppa
leadership
right
now.
The
organization
removed
its
executive
director
and
chief
financial
officer
and
with
the
potential
for
signific,
significant
time
gaps,
filling
these
leadership
roles
and,
most
importantly,
getting
answers
back
to
entities
such
as
the
city,
the
school
district
and
our
city
council
body
and
the
newness
of
the
majority.
A
The
vast
majority
of
the
board
currently
so
I
do
remain.
I
do
have
major
concerns
remaining
about
the
capacity
of
the
ppa's
board
and
the
ppa's
leadership
to
engage
in
the
kind
of
transformation,
that's
necessary
in
the
kind
of
transparency
and
clarity,
that's
necessary
to
ensure
effective
financial
management
of
the
parking
authority,
and
I
also
want
to
be
clear
about
what
we
believe
to
be
needed
for
meaningful
change,
as
is
requested
by
the
city,
as
has
been
requested
by
our
city
council
body.
A
A
You
know
settlements
that
have
gone
out
from
disgraced
and
predatory
parking
authority
directors.
We
have
seen
finances,
you
know,
go
all
over
the
map
in
terms
of
the
school
district
of
philadelphia,
questionable
diversion
of
on-street
revenues,
continuing
questions
about
why
capital
expenditures
are
placed
onto
operating
revenues.
A
So
I
want
to
be
clear
that
the
city
and
the
this
council
body
are
united
in
believing
that
the
city
should
have
signed
off
on
the
ppa's
budget.
We
believe
it
is
in
the
best
interest
of
the
board,
as
well
as
in
the
best
interests
of
of
the
city
and
the
and
the
taxpayers
of
philadelphia.
A
We
had
requested
disclosure
and
approval
by
city
state
and
the
school
district
of
philadelphia
of
any
major
policy
shifts
that
have
significant
impact
on
long-term
liabilities
or
school
district
of
philadelphia
finances.
This
is
very
clear.
I
think
the
opeb
funding
is
a
perfect
example
of
that
long-ranging
questions
about
capital,
expenditures,
tuition
payments,
all
sorts
of
things
that
have
raised
eyebrows
shocked
the
senses.
A
We
will,
and
finally,
we
requested
quarterly
financial
reports
and
data,
in
addition
to
the
quarterly
financial
meetings
that
we
already
have
with
the
parking
authority.
Clearly,
those
quarterly
meetings
were
not
enough
to
provide
full
disclosure,
full
transparency
and
to
predict
the
parking
authority's
financial
contributions,
including
projections
of
revenues
and
expenses,
projections
of
contributions
to
the
city
and
the
school
district
of
philadelphia.
A
We
will
clearly
continue
to
follow
up
on
the
issues
with
the
subpoena
subpoena
documents
that
were
raised
earlier
today,
myself
directly
with
chair
grossman.
We
will
continue
pursuing
documents
that
will
let
us
understand
how
the
organization
is
spending
philadelphia's,
taxpayer
money,
and
we
will
continue
to
engage
with
the
philadelph
philadelphia
parking
authority
board
and
the
city
of
philadelphia
around
the
need
for
these
crucial
structural
changes.
A
But
it
is
clear
that
we
have
been
here
before
we
will
enter
into
this
work
with
a
renewed
spirit
of
work
and
purpose
going
forward.
But
to
be
clear,
the
motivation
behind
this
has
been
was
disastrous
and
it
caused
significant
financial
chaos
for
two
extremely
important
entities
within
the
city
of
philadelphia,
primarily
the
school
district
of
philadelphia.
We
are
not
going
to
tolerate
this
amount
of
chaos
going
forward.
A
We
will
continue
to
hold
the
the
parking
authority
accountable
as
we
hold
ourselves
and
our
city
accountable
to
its
obligations
and
and
this
hearing
will
be
continued
at
a
later
date
before
we
conclude,
is
there
anyone
else
here
to
testify
on
the
resolution,
whose
name
has
not
yet
been
called
hearing?
None.
This
concludes
the
business
before
the
joint
committee
on
children
and
youth
and
on
finance.
For
today
I
want
to
thank
the
committee
members
on
children
and
youth
and
on
finance.
A
I
want
to
especially
thank
my
co-chair
of
the
finance
committee
council
member
green
for
his
work
in
this
area
and
his
partnership
in
making
sure
that
we
get
answers.
We
will
now
recess
this
hearing
until
the
call
of
the
chair
and
thank
you,
everybody
for
your
attention
to
this
very
important
issue.