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From YouTube: Committee on Finance 4-5-2019
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The Committee on Finance of the Council of the City of Philadelphia will hold a Public Hearing on Friday, April 5, 2019, at 2:00 PM, in Room 400, City Hall, to hear testimony on the following item:
190186 An Ordinance amending Chapter 19 500 of The Philadelphia Code, entitled “Taxes and Rents General,” by providing for a temporary tax amnesty program under which delinquent taxpayers may satisfy their past due tax obligations with forgiveness of all or a portion of accrued interest and penalties, under certain terms and conditions.
Finance
Chair: Councilwoman Jannie Blackwell (3rd District)
Vice Chair: Councilman Bobby Henon (6th District)
A
The
Committee
on
Finance
is
called
to
order.
We
will
ask
the
clerk
to
read
the
title
of
bill
number
one:
nine
zero
one,
eighty
six
before
she
does.
We
note
that
we
have
a
quorum
to
my
right,
Councilwoman,
Cindy
bass,
sponsor
of
this
bill
to
my
left,
Councilwoman
charelle
Parker
to
her
left,
Vice,
Chair,
Bobby
Heenan,
and
to
his
left
bill
Greenlee.
Well,
the
clerk.
Please
read
the
title
of
this
bill.
B
1901
eight
six,
an
ordinance
amending
chapter,
nineteen
500
of
the
Philadelphia
Code,
entitled
taxes
and
rents
in
general
by
providing
for
a
temporary
tax
amnesty
program
under
which
delinquent
taxpayers
may
satisfy
their
past
due
tax
obligations
with
forgiveness
of
all
or
a
portion
of
accrued
interest
and
penalties
under
certain
terms
and
conditions.
Thank.
C
This
bill
amends
chapter
19
500
of
the
Philadelphia
Code
entitled
taxes
and
rents
general
by
providing
for
a
temporary
tax
amnesty
program
for
delinquent
taxpayers.
The
administration
Lake
council
is
committed
to
helping
all
taxpayers
and
homeowners
who
are
unable
to
meet
their
obligations,
get
back
on
track
with
affordable
payment
plans
and
tax
relief.
We
also
jointly
work
to
make
sure
that
everyone
pays
their
fair
share
and
those
who
can
afford
to
pay
do
so
with
programs
like
sequestration,
the
tax
dollars
collected,
are
necessary
to
fund
city
services
and
to
support
the
School
District
of
Philadelphia.
C
Since
2013,
the
city
has
made
great
improvements
in
reducing
delinquency
and
increasing
on-time
payments
through
a
combination
of
more
robust
safety
nets,
with
programs
like
UBA
homestead
and
the
new
flexible
business
tax
payment
plans
launched
last
year
and
consistent
swift,
meaningful
enforcement
that
have
changed
the
perception
and
reality
that
no
one
needs
to
pay
taxes.
Timely.
These
new
tools
are
effective
and
councils,
partnership
to
create
collection
and
relief
mechanisms
through
legislation
and
subsequent
outreach
and
awareness
has
been
essential.
C
The
amnesty
program
proposed
in
bill
one
nine
zero
one.
Eighty
six
is
a
tool
that
will
reverse
this
progress.
It
will
damage
the
finances
of
the
city
and
school
district
and
undermine
efforts
to
create
a
culture
of
compliance.
While
amnesties
can
create
a
spiking
collections,
they
are
followed
by
periods
of
reduced
collection
activity
and
forgone
income.
C
The
fiscal
impact
analysis
of
bill,
one
nine,
zero
one,
eight
six
projects,
a
negative
impact
of
six
to
110
million
to
the
city
and
school
district
through
fiscal
year
2024,
the
school
district
share
of
the
net
revenue
loss
is
estimated
to
be
up
to
forty
five
point:
four
million
dollars,
unlike
the
situation
during
Philadelphia's
last
amnesty
less
than
a
decade
ago,
during
the
Great
Recession,
the
city
is
not
facing
a
budget
shortfall
that
would
justify
a
short-term
infusion
of
cash
to
prevent
service
cuts.
Despite
anticipated
long-term
costs.
C
Our
fiscal
footing
is
far
firmer
today,
with
revenue
collections
on
target
to
meet
or
exceed
estimates
for
fiscal
year.
Nineteen
and
no
projected
gaps
in
the
fiscal
year.
Twenty
five-year
plan
we
also
have
in
place
more
generous
payment
plans
and
relief
programs
and
lower
interest
and
penalty
rates.
C
The
costs
of
an
amnesty
program
go
far
beyond
the
loss
of
six
to
110
million
over
the
coming
years.
That
is
currently
identified
to
support
city
services
and
the
school
district.
The
operational
budget
I'm.
Sorry,
the
operational
burden
will
mean
diverting
resources
away
from
work.
That
would
benefit
all
taxpayers
like
replacing
our
35
year
old
IT
system,
with
a
modern
version
that
will
provide
more
service
and
self-service
and
transparency,
and
the
ongoing
efforts
to
increase
enrollment
in
assistance
programs
and
ramp
up
enforcement
in
programs
like
sequestration.
C
Another
cost
is
taxpayers
confidence
in
our
system,
more
than
96%
of
real
estate
taxes
and
over
90
percent
of
all
other
taxes
are
paid
on
time
by
Philadelphia
residents
and
businesses
operating
here
and
all
time.
High
assurance
that
there
are
consequences
for
failing
to
pay
is
essential
to
maintaining
that
conf
that
confidence
amnesties
are
a
blunt
instrument,
giving
massive
savings
to
companies
that
have
just
have
ducked
and
dodged
our
auditors
and
lawyers
who
should
and
could
pay.
C
The
one-size-fits-all
nature
of
amnesties
like
this
one,
introduces
unfairness
into
our
tax
structure
due
to
the
significant
cost
to
the
city
and
school
district
minimal
benefit
to
our
most
vulnerable
taxpayers,
inability
to
tailor
an
amnesty
to
small
businesses
or
those
with
smaller
debts
due
to
PA
Constitution's
uniformity
clause
and
the
inherent
problems
with
any
amnesty
compared
to
our
current
balance
of
enforcement
and
assistance
programs.
The
administration
opposes
this
bill
and
any
tax
amnesty.
C
At
this
time,
I
have
met
with
the
sponsor
to
understand
the
motivation
behind
the
bill,
and
we
share
her
desire
to
help
homeowners
and
help
small
businesses
get
back
on
track.
The
fiscal
20
budget
proposal
includes
100,000
in
funding
for
expanding
outreach
for
homeowner
relief
and
payment
plans.
We
support
additional
robust
communications
around
the
newer
business
tax
payment
plans
that
aren't
is
widely
known
or
utilized,
as
well
as
promotion
of
our
voluntary
disclosure
program,
which
waives
all
penalties
for
unregistered
businesses
that
come
forward
that
come
forward
before
we
find
them.
A
D
Good
afternoon,
councilman
Blackwell
and
members
and
members
of
the
committee
Laurie
Monson
on
the
chief
financial
officer
for
the
School
District
of
Philadelphia
I'm,
here
to
explain
the
impact
on
the
school
district
of
bill,
1
901
86,
which
provide
for
the
temporary
tax
amnesty
program,
and
let
me
begin
by
saying
unequivocally
that
I
oppose
the
proposed
legislation.
Numerous
reviews
of
prior
MSC
programs
across
the
country
come
to
the
same
conclusion.
Amnesty
programs
are
the
epitome
of
short-term
gain
and
long-term
pain
for
taxing
authorities.
D
Amnesty
programs
usually
recognize
a
short
term
cash
gain,
which
is
why
they
are
popular
when
taxing
authorities
have
cash
flow
concerns
or
are
struggling
with
routine
collection
rates.
In
the
medium
and
long
term,
however,
collection
rates
fall
as
resources
are
diverted
from
collection
efforts
and
taxpayers
are
trained
that
they
will
be
ultimately
rewarded
for
failing
to
pay
taxes,
as
it
specifically
applies
to
school
district.
D
It
will
slightly
increase
cash
flow
and
we
have
no
cash
flow
issues
and
reduce
our
revenues
when
we
are
facing
shortfalls
ensure
the
proposed
amnesty
bill
as
a
policy
approach
proven
to
have
a
negative
impact
on
long
term
collection
rates,
thereby
threatening
the
core
sustainable,
recurring,
predictable
revenues
which
the
school
district
relies
on
in
order
to
make
investments
in
our
students,
staff
and
schools
I
strongly
oppose
bill,
1
900
186.
That
concludes
my
testimony
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
A
E
You
thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
you
know
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
for
being
here
today.
I
want
to
thank
everyone.
Who's
here
today
and
I
think
that
amnesty
is
a
very
common
sense,
a
common
sense
approach
to
addressing
the
needs
of
our
citizens.
It's
plain
and
simple.
This
is
not
something
that
is
unheard
of.
The
city
of
Philadelphia
has
done
this
before
and
we
do.
Despite
some,
you
know
some
suggestions
that
we
do
not,
as
a
body
have
the
statutory
authority
to
address
this
manner.
E
They
don't
make
sense
to
me
and
I'm
wondering
if
you
can
help
me
to
understand
how
this
is
going
across
the
city
of
Philadelphia
I
think
your
estimate
was
somewhere
around
five
million
dollars,
or
so
how
is
this
going
to
cost
when
we
already
we're
where
we
have
a
collections?
Department
am
I
correct.
We.
F
C
Amnesty
sounds
really
simple
and
that's
probably
the
attraction
run
in
amnesty
and
you
generate
a
lot
of
money
and
that's
the
appearance
and
we
ran
a
jatt
and
amnesty
in
2010
for
a
specific
reason,
because
there
was
a
budget
shortfall
and
it
does
generate
money
fast,
but
it
generates
it
at
long-term
cost,
because
an
amnesty
is
very,
although
it
sounds
very
simple,
it's
very
complex
to
run.
Essentially,
we
have
to
shut
down
our
building
processes
to
ramp
up
for
an
ad
mistake,
get
the
receivables
ready
we
have
to.
We
essentially
have
to.
C
C
It
would
be
complex
either
way
in
talking
to
other
jurisdictions
back
in
2010,
when
we
did
it
and
amnesties
because
of
the
Great
Recession
were
popular
than
a
lot
of
jurisdictions
were
trying
to
fill.
You
know,
budget
shortfalls,
and
that
was
the
purpose.
So
we
looked
at
jurisdictions
and
learned
from
talking
to
jurisdictions
that
it
was
an
incredible
burden
to
run
it
internally
because
of
scalability
and
that
the
jurisdictions
that
were
most
successful
and
we
we
looked.
G
C
Absolutely
and
run
at
the
end
of
a
fiscal
year.
It's
it
coincides
with
our
busiest
time
of
the
year
when
we're
processing
all
of
the
tax
returns
that
are
coming
in
it's
our
busiest
time
in
the
department,
so
to
be
able
to
do
our
normal
operations
and
not
sacrifice
services
to
all
citizens
and
to
have
a
successful
amnesty.
We
thought
and
believe
that
it
led
to
the
success
of
that
amnesty
in
raising
the
revenue
that
we
needed
to
use
an
outside
vendor.
C
That
being
said,
the
other
reason
that
we
lose
money
is
when
you
run.
The
amnesty
program
generates
lots
of
activity
in
a
very
short
period
of
time.
Our
last
program
was
54
days,
and
even
though
we
had
a
considerable
marketing
budget
and
part
of
that
marketing
campaign
was
to
tell
tax
payers
to
please
come
in
early
there,
their
situation
might
be
complex.
They
may
have
non
filed
tax
returns
that
have
to
be
filed.
They
may
need
time
to
get
their
tax
records
together
to
file
those
returns.
C
E
E
C
And-
and
you
know,
if
we,
if
there
was
even
a
thought
that
we
could
having
directed
the
last
amnesty
program
and
having
seen
what
the
last
ten
days
of
that
program
were
like,
there's
no
doubt
that
we
could
not
do
that
and
at
any
time
of
the
year,
but
but
definitely
not
at
the
time
of
the
year
when
we
ran
that
which
coincides
which
are
busy
time.
One.
E
E
That's
going
to
be
something
that's
going
to
be
helpful,
that's
going
to
help
them
get
out
of
the
debt
that
they
have
with
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
that's
going
to
allow
them
to
write
the
their
financial
situation,
and
it
almost
feels
as
if
the
city
is
not
interested
in
doing
that.
I
have
a
example
that
I
use
most
often
is
of
a
taxpayer
who
has
a
small
business
who,
in
2002,
had
a
four
hundred
dollar
tax
bill.
E
That
was
uncollected
that
balloon
currently
today
into
ten
thousand
dollars,
so
she
went
from
four
hundred
dollars
to
ten
thousand
dollars.
She
also
accumulated
over
the
years
a
total
of
about
$10,000
in
principle
balance
and
that
that
balance
now,
including
interest
and
penalty,
is
closer
to
$80,000
on
a
$10,000
principle
balance,
and
so
I
say
that
there
is
something
that
we
can
do
there
it.
There
are
things
that
we
can
do
and
we
just
have
to
figure
out
how
to
make
that
happen.
E
Now
we
did
have
an
opportunity
to
meet
and
to
talk
about
how
we
could
work
together
in
a
spirit
of
cooperation,
and
we
offered
you
know,
in
my
opinion,
revenue
an
opportunity
to
come
up
with
amendments.
Tell
us
what
will
work.
Tell
us
what
ideas
you
have,
let's
figure
out,
a
way
that
we
can
actually
be
on
the
same
page.
But
we
have
received
word
that
you're
not
interested
in
any
amendments
whatsoever
to
try
to
make
this
work
for
the
citizens
of
Philadelphia
yeah.
C
That's
not
to
say
that
we
won't
continue
to
work
with
your
office.
I.
Think
we've
made
great
progress,
working
with
your
office
on
our
payment
agreement
terms
and
to
the
example
of
the
taxpayer
that
you
just
talked
about.
We
do
have.
We
do
have
agreement
terms
that
would
help
that
person
and
a
lump
sum
payment
would
get
rid
of
all
of
the
penalty
and
I'm
sure
that
that's
a
significant
portion
of
that
inflated
debt.
C
So
we
do
have
programs
that
we
think
are
more
effective
because
they're
more
precise
and
we
can
target
that
particular
taxpayer
in
that
situation.
When
we
go
to
a
a
when
we
go
to
an
amnesty,
it
affects
all
taxpayers
and
what
we
learned
from
the
last
amnesty
is.
There
will
be
very
big
corporation.
There
will
be
very
bad.
E
C
E
Do
you
have
any
but
like
like
when
we
think
about
when
we
think
about
abatements
right,
10
years,
pretty
much
tax-free
all
over
the
city?
No
one
wants
to.
You
know
have
the
conversation
about
slowing
it
down
in
administration.
We
give
away
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
every
year
and
have
done
so
for
almost
the
last
20
years,
and
so
when
will
we
do
something
to
address
the
inequity
that
exists?
E
Is
this
something
that
we
can
do
something
relatively
easy,
relatively
small
by
the
city
standards
that
would
effectively
address
the
inequity
that
exists
between
those
who
receive
10
years,
tax
free
versus
those
who
have
been
struggling
for
10
years
or
more,
with
their
tax
burdens
with
the
city
of
Philadelphia
I?
Think.
E
Well
do
respect
as
the
revenue
commissioner
I
think
that
you
discuss
in
the
I
know
that
you're
fully
versed
on
the
10
year,
tax
abatement
right,
you're,
you're,
aware
what
it
is
right.
Oh
yeah!
Ok,
all
right!
So
do
you
know
what
to
cut
what
kind
of
impact
the
abatement
program
has
one
a
city
of
Philadelphia
I
mean
there.
C
C
E
And
that's
over
a
ten-year
period
here
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
yes,
and
so
by
your
definition,
then
that
means
that
they
are
not
paying
a
substantial
portion
of
real
estate
taxes
for
the
most
part
over
a
ten-year
period.
Correct
and
those
abatements
are
happening
throughout
the
entire
city
of
Philadelphia,
but
primarily
in
certain
neighborhoods,
more
wealthier,
neighborhoods,
more
affluent
neighborhoods,
I
would
say:
Center
City,
neighborhoods
surrounding
Center
City
and
the
the
value
of
those
properties
is
significant.
Would
you
say
they.
C
Could
be
yes,
I
mean
IIIi,
don't
want
to
speak
in
general
terms
because
again
I'm,
not
the
expert
I,
don't
know
what
properties
are
affected
and
there's
people
I'm
sure
doing
improvements
that
are
not
that
significant
and
getting
the
abatement.
But
I
agree
with
you
on
the
the
nature
of
the
abatement
program
that
the
the
fact
that
it's
a
ten
year
tax
abatement
on
the
improvement
of
a
property.
Yes,
but.
E
E
The
idea
is
to
attract
and
approach
the
people
who
are
willing
to
pay
their
real
estate
taxes,
but
can
and
right
now
we
give
an
abatement
or
a
ten
year
tax.
You
know
basically
a
giveaway.
We
do
a
complete
giveaway
on
these
taxes,
and
so
why
can't
we
reach
out
to
folks
who
are
struggling
to
address
this
inequity?
Why
can't
we
do
that?
Because.
C
This
tax,
amnesty
aside,
from
all
the
reasons,
one
of
the
reasons
that
was
in
my
testimony
is
that
it
will
benefit
people
that
can
afford
to
pay
and
choose
not
to
pay
it
will
it
will
affect
in
our
in
our
last
amnesty
forty,
four
percent
of
the
businesses
that
received
relief
were
non
Philadelphia
businesses.
So
there's
a
perfect
example:
I
mean
I,
sent
work
with
that
program
and
saw
huge
corporations
come
in
and
take
advantage
of
an
amnesty
program
and
get
immense
amounts
of
relief.
C
E
And
we
said
at
that
time
that
this
was
a
great
opportunity,
then
to
add
that
as
an
amendment
to
the
bill,
so
that
non
philadelphians
would
not
be
able
to
take
advantage
in
game
the
system
and
that
we
would
be
able
to
help
those
who
are
here
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
who
are
the
ones
that
we're
trying
to
attract
who
are
struggling
with
their
taxes.
So
we
talked
about
this
video.
We
talked
about
that
as
a
possible
amendment.
So
why
is
that?
E
C
E
E
E
E
In
light
of
the
strong
support
for
tax
abatements,
this
is
something
that
can't
happen.
This
is
something
that
should
happen
if
we're
really
a
city,
that's
trying
to
do
something.
You
know
we
have
this
whole
anti-poverty
agenda
and
and
and
not
being
able
to
help
people
who
are
living
in
in
neighborhoods,
where
they're
struggling
to
hold
on
my
grandmother's
house,
your
grandmother's
house,
everybody's
grandmother's,
house
or,
and
a
lot
of
our
neighborhoods
are
built
next
door
to
brand-new
properties
that
are
going
for
four
or
five
six
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
so
how
do
we?
E
How
do
we
support
those
long-term
taxpayers
who
have
been
there
who
have
been
holding
these
neighborhoods
down?
How
do
we
support
them
if
we
can't
offer
them
a
program
that
is
very
simple:
it
does
not
have
to
cost
up
to
five
million
dollars.
We
have
everything
that
we
need.
We
are
already
in
the
collection
business.
We
have
the
people,
we
have
the
equipment.
This
does
not
require
that
level
of
investment.
We.
C
Will
we
will
lose
that
you
know?
We
believe
that
we
will
lose
those
revenues?
One
of
the
things
that
was
very
helpful
about
having
an
amnesty
in
2010
was
we
have
stood
significant
statistics
from
that
program
of
who
participated
and
what
the
results
of
that
program
wire
and
no
reason
to
believe
that
that
won't
be
replicated.
C
If
we
do
an
amnesty
and
what
we
also
learned
was
that
you
know
I
don't
want
to
keep
using
the
blunt
instrument
kind
of
statement
here,
but
really
it
benefits
a
lot
of
people
that
I
don't
think
you're
trying
to
target-
and
we
learned
from
that
last
amnesty
that
there
are
people
that
will
benefit
that.
That
is
not
the
intention.
C
I
C
Are
people
that
can't
afford
to
pay
that
have
a
culture
of
they
don't
want
to
pay,
and
our
efforts
over
the
last
six
years,
through
cal,
revocation
and
sequestration,
have
helped
to
change
that
culture
and
forge
people
who
can't
afford
to
pay
to
pay?
And
we
don't
want
them
to
really
it
doesn't
make
sense.
I,
don't
think
your
intention
was
to
benefit
them
well,
I
may,
in
a
tax
amnesty
program.
Well,.
E
I
I
understand
I.
You
know,
listen
I,
understand
that
you
know
the
idea
is
that
there
are
a
lot
of
people
out
here
who
are
able
to
pay
and
unwilling
to
pay,
and
they
all
have
abatements
so
that
so
so,
there's
there's
something
that
needs
to
be
done
here
to
level
the
playing
field
and
to
make
this
equal
yeah.
There
has
to
be
a
way
that
we
can
address
this
so
that
we
can
give
folks
a
break.
You
know,
listen,
you
know
it's
campaign
season,
I,
also
call
it
silly
season
cuz.
E
E
The
city
has
not
worked
for
them
and
when
we
talk
about
providing
city
services
and
we'd,
say
that
say
things
like
we
don't
need
additional
dollars
from
the
tax
amnesty
that
we
don't
need
to
collect
this
money
because
of
the
surplus
last
year,
they're
not
seeing
it
going
into
their
neighborhoods,
it's
not
going
into
the
neighborhoods,
and
so
we
do
need
the
revenue.
We
need
additional
trash
collection,
our
city,
our
streets,
are
dirtier
than
they've
ever
been.
We
need
money
for
our
school
district,
that
money
can
go
to
the
schools.
E
Despite
what
was
said
that
money
can
go
into
other
services,
that
our
city
needs
and
I.
Just
don't
do
not
understand
for
the
life
of
me
why
this
is
such
why
there
is
so
much
pushback
that
this
is
something
that
is
a
problematic
in
some
way
for
the
city
to
collect
money
that
has
been
outstanding.
That
is
likely
going
to
go
uncollected.
Do
you
think
that
the
person
who
had
that
I
mentioned
earlier
the
small
business
owner
in
my
district?
E
Do
you
think
that
this
person
is
ever
going
to
be
able
to
pay
the
city
of
Philadelphia?
Eighty
thousand
dollars,
but
that's
just
it's,
never
going
to
happen,
but
we
are
so.
How
are
we
able
to
help
her
get
right
and,
at
the
same
time
address
what
the
city
needs,
which
is
to
collect
at
least
the
principal
balance
we.
D
C
We
have
programs
now
that
could
assist
that
taxpayer
and
that
taxpayer
would
not
have
to
pay
eighty
thousand
dollars
and
they
wouldn't
necessarily
have
to
come
up
with
a
lump
sum.
We
would
work
with
them
to
determine
if
a
lump
sum
is
appropriate
with
the
appropriate
amount
of
penalty
abatement
or
whether
a
five
year
payment
plan
is
more
appropriate
and
work.
Some
level
of
abatement
there,
but
I,
don't
think
in
any
of
those
situations.
Would
that
taxpayer
have
to
pay
the
full
amount
do
we
would
have
and-
and
they.
F
E
E
Well,
you
don't
have
80
well
we'll
take
we'll
settle
for
40,
so
you
know
it's
just
completely
unrealistic
and
again
if
we
want
to
save
businesses
and
if
we
really
want
to
save
people
from
losing
their
homes
from
sheriff
sale,
then
this
is
something
I
think
that
we
have
to
do
and
we
have
to
do
it
now
so
I'm
going
to
come
back.
Madam
chair
I
know
that
there
are
other
questions,
but
I'll
come
back.
Thank.
A
L
Madam
chair
Commissioner
Breslin
into
the
panel
on
good
afternoon,
thank
you
all
for
being
here,
commissioner.
Breslin
I
want
to
start
with
some
hypotheticals
that
I
want
to
ask
you
about
and
when
I
give
you
the
scenarios.
I
want
you
to
tell
me
if
the
people
and
the
businesses
who
I
am
about
to
describe
would
be
eligible
for
tax
amnesty
if
this
bill
passes.
So
please
bear
with
me
there's
a
nuisance
business.
In
my
district.
L
L
Next
Commissioner
there's
a
parking
lot
company.
They
paid
their
workers,
low
wages,
they
scheduled
them
for
long
hours
and
they
do
it
sometimes
intentionally
to
drive
under
staffing,
and
then
they
retaliate
against
the
employees
who
speak
out,
let
alone
try
to
organize
by
firing
them.
However,
it
turns
out
that
they're
delinquent
on
their
parking
taxes
with
this
company
be
eligible
for
tax.
Amnesty
yes,
final
scenario:
imagine
there's
an
out
of
state
speculator,
we're
going
to
call
it
ABC
LLC.
L
They
routinely
buy
up
properties
in
gentrifying
areas
and
they
sit
on
these
properties
for
months,
if
not
years,
hoping
that
the
property
values
would
an
essence
skyrocket
and
they
will
make
a
fortune
on
them.
They
don't
care
about
the
neighbors
or
the
community,
but
in
the
meantime
they
also
don't
pay
their
property
taxes.
With
this
LLC
ABC
LLC.
Would
it
be
eligible
for
tax
amnesty?
It.
J
L
We
worked
in
tandem
hand-in-glove
with
this
city
council,
council,
president
Darrell
Clarke
and
his
staff
to
provide
this
city
of
Philadelphia
with
the
tools
that
it
needed
to
collect
additional
delinquent
property
taxes,
because
we
were
getting
blown
away
in
our
stats
when
it
showed
the
dismal
record
that
we
had
in
see
them.
We
did
a
couple
of
things.
One
we
gave
the
city
the
enabling
authority
to
create
loop
because
we
knew
that
this
city
was
suffering
from
gentrification
and
councilman
Johnson
councilman
Squealer,
along
with
former
rep
Michael
Bryant.
May
he
rest
in
peace.
L
L
The
second
thing
we
did
and
I'll
still
remember
the
visual
that
herb
Wetzel
developed
that
show
the
multiple
properties
that
speculators
owned
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia
2030
properties,
and
then
they
used
an
aerial
google
map
to
show
us
the
houses,
the
private
homes
that
these
property
owners
lived
and
I'm
talking
about
mansions
and
villanova.
But
although
they
refused
to
pay
their
property
taxes
here
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
this
city
did
not
have
the
authority
to
place
a
lien
on
the
mansion
in
Villa
Nova.
L
In
addition
to
that,
we
codified
for
the
city
of
Philadelphia.
Although
the
executive
branch
had
the
authority
to
allow
residents
to
enter
into
payment
agreements,
it
was
the
Pennsylvania
General
Assembly
that
codified
again
working
in
conjunction
with
this
council,
the
ability
of
Philadelphia
residents
to
make
payment
arrangements
and
installments
and
to
give
you
the
revenue
department,
the
flexibility
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
constituency
based
on
their
economic
income.
Do
you
remember
all
three
of
those
legislative
initiatives
and
tools
that
were
given
to
the
city?
C
L
D
So
our
proposed
five-year
plan
assumes
borrowing
250
million
dollars
every
other
year,
so
750
million
dollars
in
our
effort
to
make
a
dent-
and
you
know
the
four
and
a
half
to
five
billion
dollar
facility
issues
that
we
have
across
the
district.
That
is
predicated
our
ability
to
repay
that
debt,
which
assumes
certain
recurring
revenues,
and
our
whole
point
of
this
is
if,
across
the
country,
every
study
that's
been
done
on.
This
shows
that
collection
rates
will
fall
as
a
result
of
an
amnesty
program.
D
L
L
It
is
history
that
is
best
qualified
to
reward
its
research
and,
on
the
second
page
of
your
testimony,
you
note
that
in
the
last
amnesty
44
percent
of
the
relief
went
to
businesses
located
outside
of
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
now
again
I
only
spent
10
years
in
Harrisburg.
That
was
handy
long
enough
to
find
my
way
to
the
bathroom
so
I.
Don't
you
don't
pretend
to
know
everything?
Okay,
but,
but
is
the
reason
why
44%
of
this
relief
whit's
of
business
is
located
outside
of
the
city?
L
It
has
anything
to
do
with
something
called
the
uniformity
clause
in
the
Commonwealth
of
Pennsylvania,
that
does
not
this
city
of
the
first
class,
the
ability
to
either
charge
different
rates
on
commercial
properties
versus
a
whole
residential
properties
and
and
allows
you
to
decide
during
a
program
such
as
amnesty
that
you
could
literally
say
what
we
want
it
for
this
group,
but
not
for
this
group
does
this
at
all
the
city's
ability
to
do
this.
Is
it
connected
to
the
uniformity
clause,
which
is
not
governed
or
granted
by
the
city
of
Philadelphia?
L
We
can
only
get
it
if
it's
granted
the
enabling
authority
that
we
introduced
when
working
with
council
president
Clark
in
2013.
There
was
a
four
package
deal
called
the
Philadelphia
tax
fairness
package,
and
it
was
the
only
bill
out
of
all
of
them
that
we
unfortunately
didn't
have
the
strength
to
get
past.
So
does
the
uniformity
clause
impact
what
you've
described
in
your
testimony?
Yes,.
L
For
the
record
I'm
looking
at
data-
and
this
is
data-
you
know
this-
it's
very
important.
First,
let
me
ask
you:
I
talked
about
that
loop
I
talked
about
loop,
you
mentioned
oopah
I
was
at
a
town
meeting
a
budget
briefing
in
town
hall
meeting
in
the
ninth
district
yesterday
at
st.
at
the
nation's
school,
and
we
had
all
of
our
vendors
there
providing
our
community
with
information
and
one
piece
of
information
that
the
seniors
are
always
happy
to
hear
about.
L
L
Would
you
say
that
the
reason
why
they
are
ineligible
to
participate
is
because
we
have
eligibility
requirements
correct
and
would
you
say
if
their
home
owners
throughout
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
who
are
delinquent
in
their
property
taxes,
and/or
small
businesses,
that
if
they
are
eligible,
they
meet
the
eligibility
requirements
that
if
they
come
to
our
revenue,
department
and
I,
know
if
they
come
to
my
office
and
they
live
in
the
knife?
I'm
a
knock
your
door,
damn
if
you
don't
provide
them
with
access
to
the
opportunity
and
they're
eligible.
L
B
L
Madam
chair
I
will
just
state
this
for
the
record,
and
this
is
for
the
benefit
of
residents
throughout
the
ninth
council.
Matic
District,
who
are
not
seated
in
this
chamber
today
and
who
are
watching
at
home.
I
want
you
to
know
that
I
want
you
to
be
proud.
We
have
or
come
in
number
one
in
the
ninth
council
Matic
district
as
it
relates
to
residents
who
are
in
pavement
agreements
here
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia
I.
Want
you
to
know
that
we
are
number
one.
This
is
the
number
of
accounts
that
are
delinquent.
L
Like
my
grandmother,
my
grandfather,
they
came
to
poverty
and
they
make
sure
they
make
sure
that
I
would
get
out
of
it,
and
it
didn't
mean
that
they
were
rich.
It
just
meant
that
they
were
a
nickel
over
to
income
eligibility
guidelines
in
order
to
qualify
for
anything
so
I.
Also.
I
also
want
to
note
for
the
record
that
we
have
the
third
fewest
delinquent
accounts
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia.
Charelle,
again,
are
you
boast?
Are
you?
L
Like
my
grandmother,
there
are
a
retired
military
workers,
just
like
my
grandfather,
and
they
are
not
rich
people,
however
they're
working
hard
to
maintain
their
assets
and
if
they
have
to
get
into
a
payment
agreement
and
I,
didn't
know
what
I
have
to
say
until
I
read
the
testimony
that
some
of
the
payment
agreements
that
our
residents
are
allowed
to
get
into
it
can
require
them
to
get
all
of
their
penalties
and
interest
waived
and
a
half
a
zero.
A
zero
payment
plans
and
I've
read
that
accurately.
L
In
this
testimony
and
you're
telling
me
the
only
thing,
the
only
barrier
to
entry
into
access
in
any
of
the
programs
that
this
City
Council
has
enacted
into
law
to
ensure
that
philadelphians
are
protected,
the
only
barrier
to
entry,
his
eligibility
and
that's
what
separates
Philadelphians
from
gaining
access
versus
that
44%
of
rich
folks
who
lived
outside
of
the
city
who
benefitted
ten
years
ago.
Thank
you
for
getting
it
all
on
the
record.
E
We
have
these
great
programs
they're
open
to
everyone.
All
you
have
to
do
is
come
on
downtown.
Nothing
could
be
further
from
the
Theban
I
know
it
and
I
believe
that
you
know
it
as
well.
We've
worked
on
these
things
for
a
long
time
now
we
work
when
people
were
coming
into
revenue
and
if
you
had
a
ten
thousand
dollar
bill
with
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
they
might
say
the
person
might
say
well.
E
I've
got
five
thousand
right
now,
depending
on
that
the
the
moment,
the
kind
of
day
that
person
was
having
they
could
say,
I,
don't
want
five
thousand
dollars.
I
want
six
or
seven
or
eight
thousand
dollars,
or
else
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
help
you
and
that
person
would
leave.
They
will
walk
out
a
municipal
services
building
with
their
funds
and
no
agreement
would
be
made.
We
worked
hard
to
make
that
happen
within
I
think
the
last
year
or
so
so
that's
relatively
new.
E
E
When
you
say
training
at
staff,
that
goes
back
to
the
other
day
when
we
spoke
when
I
told
you
that
people
were
still
saying
to
us
and
we
have
staff
that
have
walk
folks
over
to
revenue.
So
we
make
sure
that
our
constituents
are
taken
care
of.
We
walk
them
over
and
they
have
been
told
by
the
person
in
revenue.
E
That
program
doesn't
exist
or
we
can't
help
you
or
that's
not
true,
even
when
we
provided
with
them
the
documentation
that
you
provided
to
us,
saying
that
this
was
a
literature,
legitimate
program
being
operated
by
the
revenue
department
and
they
have
been
turned
away,
and
that
has
been
as
of
recent
and
I
brought
it
to
your
attention.
Yet
again.
Recently,
you.
C
Did
and
and
and
I
thanked
you
for
that,
and
we've
added
an
open
dialogue
and
I've.
You
know:
I've
been
very
open
with
everyone
on
city
council
that
whenever
you
have
a
situation
like
that
and
you're
aware
of
it
of
a
constituent
to
please
contact
me
personally
and
I
will
look
into
it
as
I
did
based
on
that
conversation,
and
we
did
find
that
there
were
gaps,
that
there
were
people
who
were
unaware
of
some
of
the
changes
you
know
as
a
way
of
volume.
You
know
so
far.
C
This
fiscal
year,
our
tax
payer
services
unit,
has
talked
to
over
two
hundred
thousand
taxpayers
on
the
phone
and
have
had
over
60,000
tax
payers
come
into
the
office.
So
with
that
kind
of
volume
there
will
be
exceptions
and
mistakes,
and
it's
our
job
as
the
revenue
I'm
not
trying
to
shark
responsibility.
C
What
type
of
tax
and
some
of
this
we
can
just
decipher
by
them,
handing
us
a
bill
and
looking
and
see
if
it's
property
taxes,
our
script
is
for
them
to
ask:
is
it
owner
occupied
or
is
it
non-owner
occupied?
If
they
say
owner-occupied,
then
we
know
we're
dealing
with
oofah
they're
supposed
to
pull
out
a
one-page
sheet
which
I
shared
with
your
office
and
give
that
to
them.
C
So
because
you
talked
about
transparency,
we
want
that
taxpayer
to
know
what's
available
to
them
and
then
the
rep
is
supposed
to
discuss
the
options
and
it's
a
similar
process
for
business
taxes
and
a
similar
process
for
non
owner
occupied.
But
we
did
realize,
based
on
your
conversation,
that
some
people
were
still
holding
to
the
old
to
the
old
standards
which
were
higher
down
payments
and
shorter
payment
agreement
terms.
C
So
we've
reinforced
with
the
staff
and
there'll
be
a
series
of
training
over
the
next
several
months
to
make
sure
that
we
have
all
the
proper
scripting
and
all
the
proper
training
in
place,
and
one
of
the
things
that
you
know,
I
want
to
stay
is
I.
Think
that's
the
proper
approach
that
you
know.
We
want
to
customize
the
relief
to
the
taxpayer,
so
they
get
the
relief
that
is
appropriate
for
their
tax
situation
and
in
situations
where
that
relief
is
not
adequate.
C
C
You
know
we
want
people
to
contact
us
because
they
hear
about
our
programs
and
want
to
replicate
them,
and
you
know
we're
not
talking
about
water
today,
but
one
of
the
programs
that
we've
put
together
is
tap
an
affordability
program
for
water
and
and
our
Deputy
Commissioner
was
invited
now
once
or
maybe
twice,
but
definitely
this
past
year
to
speak
in
a
national
conference
about
that,
because
we
are
on
the
forefront
of
water
affordability
than
a
forefront
of
the
nature
in
the
nation.
So
we
want
to
continue
that
progress.
C
E
One
is
that
the
focus
of
this
bill
is
on
the
people
in
the
neighborhoods,
the
small
businesses
that
are
doing
the
right
things,
the
people
who
have
been
holding
down
our
communities
who
are
losing
their
homes,
the
folks
who
have
in
just
insurmountable
debt
that
they
can't
get
from
out
under
because
our
interests
and
our
penalties
are
just
too
doggone
high,
and
so
these
are
the
folks
that
we
are
working
hard
to
try
to
address
I.
Don't
think
that
anybody
will
say
under
Councilwoman
Blackwell
has
done
considerable
work
on
addressing
nuisance
businesses.
E
We've
worked
hard
on
addressing
nuisance
businesses
as
well.
At
no
point
do
we
ever
want
them
to
be
able
to
take
advantage
or
to
game
the
system,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
grandmom
is
able
to
save
her
house
there.
Folks
who
are
able
those
who
are
working
really
hard
and
trying
to
do
right
by
the
city
of
Philadelphia.
E
In
a
fight
for
safe
injection
sites,
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
when
it
comes
to
being
a
sanctuary
city
which
I
fully
support,
we're
willing
to
fight
for
them,
but
we're
not
willing
to
fight
for
the
people
who
have
been
in
our
neighborhoods
for
a
very
long
time,
trying
to
maintain
their
houses
and
trying
to
maintain
their
communities.
And
that's
that's
just
a
shame.
I'm
just
you
know,
we
have
a
lot
of
people
who
talk
about
putting
people
first,
but
you
know
that.
That's
not
what
this
is
clearly.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
very
much
good
afternoon
folks,
just
a
few
questions
that
sub-race
already
so
I
won't
repeat,
but
a
commissioner
one
of
the
things
you
say
a
couple
times
here,
what
the
cost
of
the
program
could
be,
and
it's
obviously
a
pretty
wide
difference
there:
six
million
to
110
million.
How?
How
are
you
basing
those
figures
or
Marisa
you're
the
expert
on
this
okay,
hi.
M
B
M
Of
a
best-case
scenario,
it
would
cost
it
would
have
a
negative
impact
of
six
million
worst-case-scenario
up
to
a
negative
110
million
dollar
impact
on
the
city
and
school
district
through
fiscal
year.
2024
is
what
we
did
is
we
looked
at
the
2010
tax,
amnesty
and
evaluated
sort
of
what
was
the
same.
What
was
different,
unfortunately,
our
35
plus
year
old
IT
system
was
the
same.
A
lot
of
the
laws
are
the
same.
So
a
lot
of
the
operational
constraints
were
the
same
when
we
were
looking
comparing
what
happened
then
to
now.
M
What
is
a
tremendous
difference.
Is
the
current
outstanding
receivable
due
to
a
lot
of
the
collection
improvements
in
place
since
2013
there's
been
a
real
shrinking
and
how
much
is
out
there
that
could
be
collected,
and
so
what
we
did
was
we
looked
at
in
2010.
There
was
about
five
hundred
thirty
two
million
that
could
have
been
paid
in
an
amnesty
today
under
this
proposal,
there's
only
about
275
million
that
could
be
paid
and
we
then
looked
at
okay.
So
if
that's
how
much
you
know
if
everything
happened,
we
looked
at
at
that
difference.
M
That's
sort
of
differential
and
then
we
looked
at
what
was
the
collection
rate
in
2010,
both
during
the
amnesty
as
well
as
in
the
quarters
after
the
amnesty,
because
during
that
short
period,
54
days
last
time,
there's
a
spike
but
then
operationally
as
we
ramped
up
to
that,
and
then
afterwards
there's
a
dramatic
decline.
And
so
we
basically
followed
that
trend
last
time
to
see
what
would
happen
tax
by
tax
and
then
followed
it.
This
time.
In
the
best
case
scenario,
we
were
able
to
match
the
high
collection
rate
of
last
time.
M
M
It's
worse
because,
basically,
for
the
seven
quarters
following
the
tax
amnesty,
we're
pretty
much
shut
down
on
all
of
our
other
programs
for
collection
initiatives
and
that's
sort
of
independent
of
whether
we
collect
a
little
or
a
lot
during
that
60-day
period.
So
that's
the
general
theory
of
how
we
looked
at
those
collection
estimates
and
how
we
got.
The
range
of
a
best-case
scenario
is
still
a
loss
of
six
million.
The
worst
case
scenario
is
a
loss
of
a
hundred
and
ten
million.
It's.
B
M
B
B
We
because,
in
in
fairness
to
what
the
sponsor
said
we
I
have
heard
and
for
the
record
when
I've
come
to
you,
you've
always
tried
to
work
stuff
out,
but
I
have
heard
the
complaint
that
people
go
over
there
and
because
they
don't
have
enough
of
a
downpayment
they're,
basically
told
well,
there's
nothing.
We
can
do
for
you,
and
that
is
probably
the
biggest
concern
and
maybe
the
biggest
reason.
Why
did
you
know
to
entertain
a
amnesty?
B
B
Know
because
look,
we
know
we
could
come
to
you,
but
a
lot
of
people
that
are
turned
away.
In
fairness.
Don't
come
to
us,
you
know
they
just
go
what
you
know
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
that
I'll
answer
the
question,
please
the
yeah
we
just
want
to
be
able
to
see.
You
know
what
those
regulations
are
that
that
everybody
can
operate
under
is
if
it's
transmitting.
B
B
C
B
B
Mean
I
thought
this
when
I
heard
you
know
and
I
understand
the
concern
of
people
from
outside
the
city
being
able,
but
I
thought
as
much
as
I
personally
would
like
to
see
it
just
to
Philadelphians.
I
do
think
that
might
be
in
might
and
my
non-legal
world
here
a
a
problem
with
uniformity
and
I
start
the
same
thing
as
the
Councilwoman
thought.
Alright,
that's
it
for
me.
Thank
you,
ma'am
sure,
you're.
H
You,
madam
chair,
and
this
is
very
informative.
You
know
getting
the
facts
out
there.
You
know
I'm
sitting
here
and
I'm,
reflecting
what
what
members
are
discussing
and
I
remember
and
I'm
glad
that
you
know
you
know
or
colleague,
and
then
leader
of
the
Philadelphia
delegation
in
the
Statehouse
Sorrell
Parker,
recalls
some
of
the
legislation
that
we
had
to
work
kind
of
coterminous.
You
know
to
try
to
accomplish
what
we
needed
as
a
city
as
the
school
district
was
facing
deficits.
You
know
trying
all
of
the
options
as
she
gives
scenarios.
H
And
you
know
we
weren't,
citing
necessarily
everything
new,
but
we
had
some
new
ways
of
looking
at
it
and
it
really
did
make
some
some.
You
know
priorities
I,
think
in
refocusing
the
efforts
on
our
attacks
on
Linkwood
C
and
the
efforts
to
collect
them
it
and
and
I'm.
Recalling
some
of
the
things
that
you
know,
Councilwoman
Parker
was
talking
about
with
the
State
House
State
House,
to
help
compliment
some
of
that,
such
as
leaning
properties
of
personal
property
and
assets
for
people.
H
Those
44
percent
were
outside
of
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
while
they're
destroying
the
neighborhood
and
the
blocks
inside
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
in
which
I
received
calls
on
every
day
out
of
town
business.
Folks,
all
right
who
were
taking
profit
over
people
at
the
expense
of
the
communities
and
neighborhoods
destroying
our
properties.
We
have
done
a
mannan
data
showing
GIS
mapping.
H
That
shows
that
if
you
have
problem
properties
such
as
slumlords
absentee
landlords
who
are
gaming,
the
system-
and
it
shows
here
that
that's
44%-
of
the
people
who
are
gaming-
the
system
through
some
sort
of
programs
and
trying
to
trying
to
find
their
way
out
all
right
when
you
tax
the
Linkwood
and
you
have
violations-
and
you
are
don't-
have
a
housing
inspection
license
or
any
kind
of
business
license.
It
drops
the
property
value
in
that
neighborhood
and
six
blocks
like
20%
I
have
factual
information
on
that.
We've
done.
H
We've
done
that
as
we
were
leading
up
to
some
of
our
or
our
programs,
and
you
know,
tax
delinquencies
and
when
we
came
in
and
there's
I'm
not
gonna,
be
exact
about
it.
I
think
in
2012,
our
tax
delinquency
was,
you
know
at
least
being
talked
about,
was
like
a
billion
dollars
with
penalties
and
interest.
Sorry
principal
penalties
and
interest
a
billion
dollars
I'm
hearing
in
this
budget.
All
right.
We
have
made
significant
significant
efforts
all
right
to
reduce
the
amount
of
delinquencies
out
there.
Now
we
need
to
keep
pushing
because
we
keep
creating
tools.
H
All
right,
like
going
after
people's
assets
and
properties
that
are
outside
the
city
and
and
and
you
know,
preying
on
the
less
fortunate
in
any
neighborhood,
they
select
all
right,
destroying
our
property
values
and
who
has
to
make
it
up
all
right.
People
who
were
praying
property
taxes
and
I
am
NOT,
raising
property
taxes
and
I'm
gonna
get
to
a
URI
in
in
a
minute
on
school
district
revenues
all
right,
but
so
we
in
2012
was
about
a
billion
dollars
here.
H
All
right
with
principal
only
is
about,
would
you
say,
roughly
two
hundred
seventy
five
million
three
hundred
million
and
with
interest
and
penalties,
you
double
it
right.
So
if
we
are
taking
off
of
when
we
started-
and
you
do
too
we're
making
hurdles
in
efforts
in
getting
their
tools
through
sequestration
and
putting
people
in
payment
plans
and
invest
in
the
payment
payment
plans,
cost
money
and
we're
paying,
for
it,
says
a
Philadelphia
who
were
paying
their
taxes
and
that
robbing
the
city
of
taxes
we're
paying
through
these
programs.
They
don't
just.
H
We
don't
just
create
a
program
all
right
if
I've
robbed
the
boat.
Fighting.
This
director
says:
hey
man,
every
good
idea
has
a
cost.
So
what
is
your
good
idea
and
how
much
is
it
gonna
cost
and
what
kind
of
rate
of
return
is
our
gonna
be?
These
programs
are
saving
people's
homes.
These
programs
are
putting
people
in
payment
plants,
so
they
can
save
the
small
businesses
with
100
percent
School
District
taxes
like
liquor,
but
a
trinket
like
amusement
taxes
like
use
and
occupancy
taxes,
so
to
jump
on
the
o,
also
real
estate
taxes.
H
N
H
The
top
of
my
head,
just
as
everybody's
talking
about
all
the
things
in
the
efforts
that
we
have
made
eighty
nine
percent
to
ninety
six
point:
one
percent:
that's
incredible!
That
is
the
city
working
for
you!
That
is
programs
that
are
there
to
protect
people
as
we
try
to
fix
out
a
system
that
was
very
complicated
and,
quite
frankly,
a
little
broken,
and
we
have
made
strides
and
efforts
to
do
so.
H
Mr.
Munsen,
if
I
can
all
the
school
district
you
had
mentioned,
you
know.
We
all
know
that
we
do
have
this
school
facilities
report.
That's
out
there.
That
shows
on
a
high
end,
no
I
mean
it's
a
stream
high
end
about
five
billion
dollars,
or
you
know
four
four
four
point:
seven
billion
dollars
to
fix.
You
know
the
schools
and
the
environmental
and
health
and
safety
of
our
schools
and
I
mean
we
have
some.
H
We
have
some
significant,
significant
investments
that
we
need
to
make
in
our
school
district
and
yes,
it's
for
a
change
or
we
do
have
a
little
surplus.
Thank
God
and
I'd
like
to
think
that
it's
the
efforts
that
everybody's
been
working
together
and
the
collections
and
the
commitments
you
know
my
know
my
office
has
called
over
to
to
the
revenue
department
and
you
know:
there's
there's
that
there's
a
policy
there's
a
schedule
and
there's
a
commitment
to
try
to
get
people
in
programs
like
that.
H
That's
based
on
and
and
I
believe
that,
with
that
kind
of
investment
you
had
mentioned
that
you
know
for
our
schools
and
injustice
facility
structures,
not
maintaining
a
nurse
in
every
sin
in
every
school,
not
maintain
any
counselor
at
every
school
mate.
Not
me,
you
know
not
withstanding,
you
know
having
enough
teachers
and
assistants,
so
our
our
kids
are
being
taught
and
when
you
know
we
need
school
police
and
making
sure
that
we
have
safety
and
and
a
good
learning
environment.
H
D
D
Payments,
it's
actually
the
opposite.
We
we
don't
even
get
to
meet
our
operating
obligation.
We
don't
get
them
most
of
the
revenues
that
come
in
is
because
the
ones
that
are
elected
for
us
by
the
city
actually
go
to
a
trustee
first,
where
they
take
off
that
they
basically
calculate
in
advance.
What
a
day's
worth
we
have
to
set
aside
for
the
bonds
each
day
and
then
whatever's
left
then
comes
the
school
district.
D
So
we
don't
get
it
first,
so
we
get
what's
ever
left
after
the
bondholders
are
made
whole
for
that
day's
value,
boundary
payments,
so
the
bondholders
get
paid
or
the
money
set
aside
for
the
bondholders
and
actually
several
months
in
advance,
it's
in
place
for
them
even
before
money
comes
to
us,
so
they
would
get
it
even
before.
If
we
did
not
have
the
money
to
do
the
types
of
things
you
mentioned:
teachers
counselors
school.
D
H
I,
don't
think
this
council.
All
right
is,
in
the
mind
state
to
raise
real
estate
taxes
anytime
soon
we
have
it
in
the
past
couple
years,
because
I
think
we've
been
increasing
our
collections
and
and
I
for
one
am
NOT
interested
in
raising
real
estate
taxes
any
anytime
soon,
as
in
this
year,
you
know,
but
I
mean
they.
They
are
the
more
predictable
sources
of
revenue
to
pay
for
shortfalls,
for
obligations
for
these
bonds
and
750
million
dollar
investment
that
would
take
a
hit
like
people
gain
the
system,
in
my
opinion.
H
H
But
yet
you
know
when
there's
a
shortfall,
the
people
who
are
paying
taxes
who
can't
be
paid
bags
who
were
put
in
paying
their
plans
or
footing
the
bills
for
everybody
else,
and
there's
people
paying
cash.
So
I
suggest
that
as
we
look
for
as
we
move
forward,
you
know
we
kind
of
like
reprioritizing
and
going
after
people
who
are
that
sector
of
the
entire
economy
that
lives
in
this
box
right.
You
have
the
economy
right
and
then
the
economy
right,
the
underground
is
a
part
of
it
and
you're
underground.
H
It's
not
paying
taxes
any
and
all
above
that's
listed
it
on
any
kind
of
exemption
or
amnesty
or
any
kind
of
thing
right.
They
are
not
paying
any
of
it.
That's
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
that
will
pay
for
obligations
that
will
pay
for
nurses.
That
will
pay
sorry
for
for
illegal
to
go
out
and
lean
the
out
of
town
landlords
and
businesses
who
are
skirting
the
systems
and
making
us
pay
why
they
can
go
on
fishing
trips
or
go
on
their
boat
in
Florida,
all
right
and
and
they're
in
their
second
or
third
house.
H
So
I
would
hope
that,
as
we
move
forward
for
whatever
happens,
won't
anything
or
that
we
continue
on
the
path,
continue
to
make
sure
that
whoever
is
in
need
of
saving
her
house
gets
into
a
program.
All
right,
Webber
is
about
to
lose
their
business.
Has
a
conversation
gets
into
a
program
and
stays
here.
Stays
here
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia
raises
their
family
here
in
Philadelphia
makes
their
money
here
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia
and
spends
their
money
here
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
because
it
all
all
is
is
connected
together
and
I.
H
Know
counsel,
we
greatly
mention
something
about
to
get
payment
schedule,
so
I
think
we
did
codify
something
when
it
comes
to
payment
schedules:
tax
payments
as
a
body
at
least
since
I've
been
in
here
we
we
did
put
forth.
There
was
some
legislation
working
with
the
administration.
I,
don't
even
know
if
it's
sorted
with
the
administration
or
not
and
may
have
been
in
a
previous
but
did
codify
payment
schedules.
Opa
is
codified.
It.
C
H
Gives
us
flexibility
those
with
your
midi
stuff
right?
Yes,
right,
okay,
but
we
do
have
codified
schedules
and
that
we
are
investing
in
and
making
sure
that
people
who
don't
have
the
means
it
is
reflected
to
any
courage
that
people
get
in
a
plan.
Absolutely
okay.
Thank
you.
Have
no
further
question.
Thank.
K
You,
madam
chairwoman,
and
that's
good
afternoon
I,
will
say
that
I
respect
the
three
of
you
in
your
opinions.
I
respect,
Rob,
Davos
opinion,
I'm,
hearing
that
all
four
of
you,
or
not
in
favor
of
this
correct
that
correct
and
so
have
a
few
questions.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
I
was
looking
over
the
numbers.
It
looks
to
me
like
real
estate
taxes,
principals
about
158
million
dollars,
that's
delinquent,
as
of
February
28th
of
19
and
total
delinquency,
including
interest
in
penalties
of
all
taxes,
are
450
million.
C
K
K
C
K
C
K
K
Is
80
million
from
the
core?
That's
gonna
be
waived
that
are
not
real
estate-related
and
my
other
question
is
I'm.
Looking
at
the
signs
in
the
back
and
I
see
everybody
here
by
the
way
Wohlers
wants
to
save
grandma's
house,
nobody
doesn't
want
to
see
a
grandma
loser.
Okay,
have
we
worked
with
the
people
in
the
back
with
the
HEPA
programs
and
can
we
meet
with
them
and
try
to
help
them
on
these
issues?
I'm,
seeing
the
grandmas
house
that
has
I
think
we.
C
C
Contact
information
I
can
talk
to
them
right
and
see
if
there's
programs
that
we
have
that
could
assist
them
because
sometimes
I
think
it's
a
councilperson
stated
that
you
know
when
we
talk
about
kind
of
the
barriers.
One
of
the
barriers
is
just
them
getting
to
us.
You
know
and
getting
to
the
right
person.
C
You
know
one
of
the
other
things
that
you
know
not
to
give
ourselves
a
pat
on
the
back,
but
to
show
the
progress
and
the
progress
that
I
think
as
a
result
of
the
cooperation
with
Council
and
and
the
benefit
of
hearing
what
happens
with
your
constituents.
Is
we
started
over
a
year
ago
about
18
months
ago,
survey
everyone
who
comes
into
the
office
and
and
scouring
ourselves
and
taxpayer
services
and
I?
Actually,
look
at
those
surveys.
Every
week
my
deputies
look
at
those
surveys.
C
Every
week
we
have
a
continuous
improvement
unit
that
works
to
improve
processes
that
are
causing
people
to
have
problems
dealing
with
the
department
and
we're
seeing
progress,
we're
seeing
more
compliments
than
we
did
before
we're
seeing
our
score
rise.
There's
a
lot
of
room
there
and,
as
the
Councilwoman
pointed
out-
and
it
was
a
great
point
to
our
conversation
this
week
is
there's
room
for
improvement,
but
we're
dedicated
to
that
improvement.
K
K
C
And
all
interest
is,
and
penalty
is
waived
at
the
point
that
the
principal
is
paid
off
and
we
also
have
a
fifth
level.
I.
Don't
have
the
income
number
in
front
of
me,
but
someone
who
is
in
a
tier
five
oopah
has
to
make
no
payment.
They
can
and
their
house
will
not
be
subject
to
any
enforcement
activity.
So.
K
Me
let
me
just
ask
a
few
more
questions
on
this
tier
3,
so
just
for
my
understanding,
tier
3,
it
says
the
income
on
the
upper
level
is
about
42,000
a
year
and
by
the
way,
just
so
the
Pew
report
I
think
the
average
income
in
the
city
is
forty,
one
thousand
forty
one
five.
So
we
have
programs
going
above
the
median
average
income
of
the
city.
Basically
$42,000,
the
household
pays
eight
percent
of
its
income
towards
taxes.
K
C
Correct
and
in
addition
to
those
payment
for
there's
a
hardship
provision
where
a
taxpayer
can
come
in
and
show
their
expenses
and
paid
less
if
it's
shown
that
their
income-
and
that
really
applies
to
someone
who
may
come
in
it
that
8%,
but
when
they
come
in
and
show
us
their
bills
and
they
have
high
medical
bills
and
high
costs,
there's
not
that
level
of
income
available
for
them
to
pay
so
we'll
set
a
lower.
We
can
actually
put
them
into
a
lower
tier.
C
K
C
K
The
average
income
the
city's
42,
we
have
programs
going
up
to
fifty
seven
thousand
dollars
and
then
that
says
Tier
one
when
I'm
not
clear
about
tier
one.
It
says
if
you're
ineligible,
which
maybe
people
are
as
well
make
sure
they're
aware
of
this
and
they're
over
fifty
seven
thousand
dollars
a
year.
There
are
payment
agreements
available
for
them.
Also
so
they're.
C
In
Opa,
so
if
they
come
in,
we'll
try
to
get
them
into
a
affordable
payment
agreement,
but
at
that
income
level,
there's
more
discretion
on
the
department
and
we'll
look
at
there
will
actually
look
at
their
income,
we'll
look
at
their
expenses
and
we'll
get
them
into
a
payment
agreement
and
again
they're
protected
from
any
enforcement
action.
So
we've
said
that
you
know.
C
K
C
C
K
Last
questions
there
was
an
I'm,
not
gonna
mention
the
name.
About
a
year
ago,
I
met
with
an
investor
who
long
I
want
to
say
69
investment
properties,
and
actually
it
called
him
into
my
office
and
met
with
him,
and
they
were
all
delinquent
all
69
properties
and
he's
basically
using
the
city
as
a
bank
and
not
paying
his
taxes
to
buy
more
real
estate.
I
said
to
the
guy:
won't
you
sell
seven
or
eight
properties
and
pay
off
all
of
the
debt.
You
owe
us.
Would
this
apply
to
that
person?
K
C
K
E
M
So
what
we
looked
at
is
what
we're
projecting
anyway.
So
we
anticipate
this
year
that
we
would
be
collecting
164
point
8
million
an
amnesty
for
FY
19
for
that
period
would
have
that
one
time
sharp
spike.
In
the
best-case
scenario
that
would
result
in
one
hundred
six:
seventy
six
million
dollars
so
a
12%,
twelve
million
dollar
increase
in
the
worst
case
scenario,
it's
a
four
million
dollar
increase
and
that's
before
and
then
in
the
out-years.
Compared
to
the
no
amnesty
scenario
we
have
decreases
so
through
FY,
twenty
twenty
four.
M
E
So
let
me
ask
you
a
question:
would
any
you
know
out
of
your
revenue
shortfalls,
because
I
know
that
there's
a
projection
that
over
the
years
there
would
be
a
shortage
of
revenue
to
be
collected.
So
wouldn't
that
be
the
result
of
the
fact
that
we're
collecting
those
delinquencies
now
through
the
amnesty
program
so.
M
Part
of
it
is
the
time
shifting
things
that
would
get
collected
during
the
amnesty
that
might
have
been
collected
later.
But
a
lot
of
that
is
reflected
in
the
fact
that
it
would
take
us
about
seven
quarters
to
get
back
to
where
we
were,
because
of
needing
to
sort
of
ramp
down
the
other
enforcement
actions
and
the
time
to
get
those
ramped
back
up.
And
so
that's.
When
we
looked
at
in
the
prior
amnesty,
how
long
it
took
to
get
to
the
prior
collection
rates.
E
M
M
A
L
L
Would
you
say
that
relative
to
the
people
within
the
last
year,
who
have
needed
assistance
and
I
just
want
to
find
out
whether
or
not
my
data
is
accurate,
and
if
you
don't
have
the
number
and
you
want
to
come
back
and
report
it-
that's
fine
too,
but
is
it
true
that
the
revenue
department
has
taken
200,000,
calls
and
60,000
walkins
relative
to
Philadelphia
residents,
who
needed
assistance
and
gaining
access
to
a
payment
arrangement
or
some
kind
of
educational
opportunity
about
what
their
options
were?
Yes,.
C
The
MSB,
that's
the
walk-ins,
that's
the
calls
there.
We
also
have
people
that
walking
in
at
the
satellite
offices-
that's
not
captured
in
those
No
numbers
I
only
grabbed
that
the
easiest
numbers
at
hand
were
the
numbers,
but
that's
an
MSB.
We
also
have
the
North
Philly
satellite
and
we
have
the
Northeast
Philly
satellite,
and
then
we
have
the
people
who
engage
our
communications
people
at
those
two
hundred
events-
I
reference.
So
so
that's
here
at
MSB
and
the
number
is
actually
higher
than
that-
and
that's
so
far
for
this
fiscal
year.
So.
L
That
that
wouldn't
include,
for
example,
annually
I
hold
a
series
of
budget
briefings
and
town
hall
meetings
throughout
the
ninth
council
Matic
district.
We
just
concluded
the
second
one.
We
always
have
revenue
there
and
someone
on
hand
to
assist
our
constituents
in
the
neighborhood
so
that
they
can
gain
access
and
you're
telling
me
your
staff,
who
comes
out
to
their
meetings,
they're,
not
sort
of
saying.
Oh,
we
we
talked
to
50
people
today
and
we
gave
50
seniors
information
about
tack
fries
about
hoopla
about
this
that
that
number
is
not
included
in
this.
That's.
L
In
addition
to
that,
because
listen
Philadelphia
gets
some
things
wrong
and
when
we
get
it
wrong
on
the
record,
everybody
in
the
world
lets
us
know
that
we
get
it
wrong.
But
at
the
data
that
you
just
reported
to
us
about
a
96%
collections
rate
when
I
think
about
2013
and
how
we
were
getting
lambasted
in
Harrisburg
about
is
how
defunct
is
Philadelphia.
They
can't
even
collect
their
own
delinquent
property
taxes
and
we're
now
at
96%
for
real
estate
and
over
90%
for
other
taxes.
L
H
A
A
O
Shadid
Abdul
Karim
in
the
light
of
the
City
Council
approving
a
10
year
tax
abatement
in
a
city
where
the
money
is
needed
for
the
poor,
and
it
is
needed
to
support
our
schools.
Now
people
are
living
in
poverty,
they
have
to
go
to
soup
kitchens
to
get
food.
I
live
near
Strawberry
Mansion,
the
high
school
that
is
supposed
to
close
soon.
O
The
story
in
the
newspaper
said
that
there
are
only
a
hundred
and
sixty
nine
enrolled
in
the
school
I
have
lived
here
a
long
time.
My
brand
parents
bought
this
house
and
now
I
wonder.
Why
are
the
schools
closing
and
I
and
our
children
are
not
here?
People
say
that
they
move
because
they
cannot
live
in
their
houses
because
it
costs
too
much
with
the
upkeep
and
the
bills
and
the
tax
abatements.
It
is
too
much.
People
who
are
poor
on
fixed
incomes
need
help.
O
O
My
name
is
Jerome
son,
Gauri
and
I'm.
Reading
the
testimony
of
jihad
Mohammed
recently
I
have
been
over
assessed
for
my
property
taxes.
My
taxes
are
now
five
times
what
they
had
been
previously.
There
are
new
homes
being
built
in
my
neighborhood,
and
the
new
owners
don't
have
to
pay
any
taxes
for
the
next
ten
years.
My
home
is
older
and
I'm.
O
70
72
years
old
and
I've
lived
in
my
house
for
56
years,
I'm
on
a
fixed
income
and
live
alone,
there's
not
fair,
that
I'm
being
overtaxed
at
this
age
and
all
of
fixed
income
and
have
no
health,
because
I
live
alone.
I
may
be
squeezed
out
of
my
home.
I
receive
letters
every
day
of
people
trying
to
buy
my
home
one
guy
offered
me
$20,000
I
can't
get
an
apartment
for
$27.
We
elected
our
city
officials
to
protect
us
seniors
and
our
homes,
please,
we
are
counting
on.
You
fell.
P
Named
it
sutra
deen,
muhammad
general,
president
of
the
Muslim
League
of
Voters,
that
a
Delaware,
Valley,
and
so
here
I'm
here
to
testify
this
afternoon
in
light
in
this
city,
I
mean
first
of
all,
we
feel
so
embarrassed
and
ashamed
that
we
have
to
come
down
here
and
beg
people
that
we
pay
a
good
salary
to
represent
us
and
hold
the
fort
down,
and
they
don't
do
that.
Philadelphia
did.
This
is
not
stuff
that
we're
making
up
it's
all
in
the
front
page
of
national
newspapers,
all
on
the
front
page
or
all
in
the
news.
P
45%
of
the
people
are
living
below
the
poverty
level.
Okay,
four
murders
are
averaged
in
this
city
every
night,
and
all
we
hear
from
the
police,
commissioner,
is
no
suspects,
no
motive,
sheriff's
sales
amount
to
a
hundred
and
sixty
nine
million
dollars
a
year,
taking
people's
homes
and
record
numbers
through
gentrification
and
everything
else.
One
of
the
things
that
we
look
at
when
we
sit
here
in
council
people
proposed
to
have
a
20
year,
tax
abatement
20
year,
tax
abatement
for
people
who
can
afford
a
home
four
hundred
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
P
Yet
you
got
a
person
that
lived
in
the
house
for
50
years
that
one
attaches
six
thousand
dollars,
and
here
come
the
revenue
department
knocking
on
their
door.
Talking
about.
We
need
that
house.
We
gotta
take
it
to
the
sheriff
sale.
50%
of
the
people
in
this
city
are
renters.
We're
looking
at
a
building.
That's
going
up
now.
Rent
is
four
thousand
dollars
a
month
in
this
city
and
I'm,
just
really
trust
to
come
down
and
have
to
bake
people.
P
We
pay
you
a
real
good
salary,
come
on
you
taking
home
$150,000
a
year,
and
so
you
know
what
it
is
to
live
in
a
household,
that's
bringing
in
a
quarter
of
a
million
dollars
a
year
where
most
of
our
people
are
sitting,
their
households
is
bringing
in
twenty
thousand
dollars
a
year.
Here
we
go
talk
about
no
there's
no,
and
these
people
sit
up
here
talking
about.
No,
we
need
the
money
for
the
schools,
we
don't
have
no
schools,
Strawberry
Mansion,
there's
a
hundred
and
sixty
nine
students
in
that
school.
P
Just
reported
on
the
front
page
of
the
Philadelphia
Inquirer.
That
school
was
built
for
eighteen
hundred
people.
They
did
it
just
like
they
did
the
prison
they
squeeze
thirty-one
hundred
people
in
that
school
in
its
heyday.
It
went
from
thirty
one
hundred
people.
Now
it
has
a
hundred
and
sixty
nine
people
in
that
school
I'd
give
it
two
more
years
that
school
will
be
closed.
This
is
the
disgrace.
How
you
all
treat
us
and
I'm
gonna.
Tell
you
right
now:
I'm
not
going
nowhere.
I'm
gonna
be
down
here.
P
Every
Thursday
raising
heck,
then
I'm
not
going
to
let
you
get
no
sleep.
I'm
gonna
come
to
your
office.
I'm
gonna
come
to
your
block.
I'm
gonna
come
down
here.
The
City
Council
would
be
down
here.
Every
Thursday
and
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
breathe
just
like
we
can't
breathe,
make
it
a
ten
year
that
I've
got
a
proposed
time
again
with
fifteen
year
twenty
year,
tax
abatement
he's
a
dead
one,
big
real
estate
developer.
So
he
all
he
wanted
to
do
is
continue
to
take
people
homes
itself.
P
This
stuff
is
not
good
stuff.
This,
it's
not
fair!
How
y'all
been
treating
us
Councilwoman
Parker,
it's
not
fair
at
all
and
I.
Don't
understand
that
yeah
me
how
you
don't
feel
the
need
to
help
your
own
people,
people
we
need
each
other.
In
about
forty.
Five
percent
of
people
live
below
the
poverty
level.
Up
in
your
district
up,
there
I
know
people
up
there.
Personally,
they
sleep
in
cars
they
get
up
in
the
morning.
P
Don't
even
take
a
bath,
go
to
the
corner,
store
which
we
don't
own,
buy
a
white
t-shirt,
put
it
on
and
a
dress.
For
today
it's
a
disgrace:
they
sleep
it
in
a
cars.
It's
a
prayer
that
I
make
every
day
ten
times
a
day
and
I
ask
God
to
bless
all
the
children
and
families
around
the
world
who
have
no
food
eat
and
no
place
to
live.
This,
don't
make
no
sense,
then
we
got
to
come
down
here
and
beg
y'all
you
making
all
that
good
money.
P
You're
sitting
up
there,
everybody
y'all
happy,
and
what
about
us
I'm
telling
you
right
now
we're
not
going
to
let
you
get
no
sleep,
you're
not
going
to
keep
taking
advantage
of
us,
and
if
this
is
on
record
I'll,
go
on
record
and
tell
you
this
right
now
come
and
try
to
take
my
house
next.
Somebody
coming
up
on
my
door.
Try
to
take
my
house
I'm
telling
you
right
now.
I
know
everybody
taking
my
house.
P
It
might
take
a
while
grandmother's
house-
and
this
is
the
disgrace-
is
this
26
cranes
in
this
city
right
now,
as
we
have
in
this
hearing,
and
they
know
people
of
color
working,
you
know
what
it
is:
1%
of
contracts,
5%
of
the
jobs.
You
got
one
black
down
a
job
holding
the
flag.
This
don't
make
no
sense.
Every
corn
out
there,
this
construction
going
on
or
every
corner
in
this
city,
and
it's
don't
move
come
on
now.
P
Our
children
are
suffering,
they'll
handle
schools,
they
going
to
jail,
jail
and
death
looks
good
to
our
kids
right
now,
and
you
also
ought
to
be
mothers
and
parents.
How
could
he
live
like
that?
Having
a
child
walk
around
the
street
living
and
sleeping
in
a
car
on
the
front
page
of
The
Daily
News,
they
had
a
white
woman
on
the
frontage
front
of
the
Daily
News,
and
she
asked
the
question:
when
do
we
eat?
P
That's
what
our
kids
say
out
there
when
they
are
on
a
hustle
on
the
corner
selling
drugs
I'm,
just
trying
to
eat
I'm,
just
trying
to
get
mine,
and
it's
still
not
getting
near
this
stuff,
don't
make
no
sense
I'm!
Just
telling
you
we're
not
going
to
allow
this
stuff
to
continue
to
go
on.
If
you
all
think
that
you
want
to
just
keep
on
smacking
us
around,
you
could
be
honest
with
I'm
gonna
say
this
to
you.
I
think
today
about
us
coming
down
here,
testifying
I!
P
2019
represents
400
years
of
slavery
and
you
just
keep
pushing
people
up
against
the
wall,
taking
our
homes,
taking
our
jobs,
taking
our
money
taking
our
cars,
where
they
boot
no
calls
to
no
cars,
and
no
other
part
of
the
city
like
they
are
in
poor
people's
neighborhoods
office
of
property
assessment
say
that
they've
messed
up
the
mayor
of
Jim
Kenney
said
office
of
property
assessment
messed
up.
They
got
it
wrong.
Council
president
Darrell
Clarke
said
all
of
the
property
assessment
messed
up.
They
got
it
wrong,
but
yet
it's
still
nobody
stop
the
sheriff
selves.
P
The
mayor
went
as
far
as
firing
the
guy
at
the
office
of
property
assessment,
a
many.
Then
he
got
it
wrong
and
councilman
Heenan
says
that
if
you
don't
have
license-
and
your
stuff
is
not
right-
that
20
that
the
property
value
goes
down
20%
and
people's
neighborhoods,
while
office
of
property
assessment
didn't
see
it
like
that.
Our
property
values
went
up
500
times,
yeah
I
was
paying
a
property,
I
have
$500
a
year
and
I
pay
a
$5,000
a
year,
no
no
renovations
on
it.
Neighborhoods
still
look
like
dirt.
P
Neighborhood
still
look
like
trash
you,
you
all
think
we
don't
know
what
you
up
to
you,
trying
to
kick
black
people
out
this
city.
That's
what
you're
trying
to
do
we're
stupid,
you're,
trying
to
kick
black
people
out
this
city
and
if
you
think
we're
going
to
allow
you,
because
we
know
in
two
more
years
we
won't
even
be
in
this
city.
You
took
every
neighborhood.
We
had
neighborhoods
that
people
didn't
want
to
live
in,
South
Street
seems
to
be
more
K&A
99,
they
put
it
in
a
safe
drug
house.
You
ran
them.
P
People
out
there
with
a
bulldozer
from
underneath
or
that
train
station,
because
that
land
is
so
valuable.
Now
we
know
what
you
up
to
and
I'm
telling
you
right
now
Baker's
going
down,
not
on
my
watch,
not
on
my
watch
I'm
telling
you
right
now
not
on
my
watch
and
if
you
don't
you
don't
think
you'll
know
you
better
ask
somebody
I'm
telling
you
right
now,
it's
not
going
down
like
that!
You're
a
chump
enough
from
us
and
slaved
us
for
400
years
raped.
Our
great-grandmother's
took
our
homes.
Took
our
cars
took
our
jobs.
P
You
dig
you
and
take
one
more
thing
from
us:
take
something
else
from
us
and
see
what
happened.
I'm
telling
you
right
now
mind
a
slavery
is
over
and
you
should
be
ashamed
of
yourself
counsel,
women
partner.
You
should
be
ashamed
of
yourself,
I
couldn't
watch
you
every
week.
You
never
fight
for
black
people.
You
should
be
a
damn
shame
of
yourself,
I'm
surprised!
You
come
up
to
the
mics
with
us
and
smile
on
our
face,
like
you
are
friend,
I,
wouldn't
do
that
if
I
was
you
I
wouldn't
do
that?
P
P
That's
the
bottom
round
or
the
party
is
over.
You
don't
know
how
to
take
your,
how
to
do
your
job
down
here,
because
we
know
what
you
all
are
doing
down
here,
where
you
know
what
you
all
are
doing
down
here
and
don't
make
this
expose,
it
don't
make
us
expose.
Now
we
want
to
breathe
them.
We
want
you
to
give
us
some
breathing
room.
That's
what
we
want.
You
ought
to
give
those
rich
people
a
ten
year.
Tax
abatement
and
councilman
down.
P
Tell
them
I'll,
give
them
20
years,
I'm,
not
going
back
on
the
plantation
for
nobody.
I'm
tell
you
that
right
now,
slavery
is
over.
Slavery
is
over
I'm,
not
going
back
on
the
plantation
for
nobody
and
then
nobody's
going
to
take
my
house
now.
I'm
tell
me
we
stay
here.
We
listen
to
this
stuff
over
there
for
three
or
four
hours
lion
that
God
the
posted
over
there
just
lying
like
that.
Talking
about
how
the
city
go
and
lose
money
number
one
interest
and
penalty
and
other
is
not
even
included
in
the
budget.
P
P
That's
right!
We
know
we
know.
We
know.
We
know
what
this
thing
is:
I'm,
not
gonna,
keep
on
doing
that
to
us.
You're,
not
gonna,
keep
on
doing
that
to
us
and
I'm
serious
I'm,
telling
you
that
right
now
now
we
came
down
here
we
was
trying
to
be
nice.
We
had
prayed
over
there.
His
first
time
had
ever
been
held
to
City
Hall.
We
made
history.
Today.
First
time
has
been
held
in
City
Hall,
the
Muslim
prayer.
P
P
P
Every
time
we
go
to
a
councilperson
and
we
ask
the
council
person
for
something
they
act
like
they
doing
us
a
favor.
That's
what
we
pay
you
for.
You
all
get
paid
real
good
money
for
that,
and
you
can't
even
help
the
poor
people.
We
pay
you
for
that
you're
not
doing
us
no
favor.
They
say
those
slick
deals
or
nothing
you're
getting
paid
for
this.
It
take
a
little
good
money
and
I'm
doing
I'm
pleading
with
you
all
today.
We
need
this
bill.
Our
homes
depend
on
it.
P
Our
grandmothers
depend
on
it
and
you're
talking
about
the
schools.
We
don't
need
those
schools.
If
our
children
don't
even
have
no
home
to
come
to
after
they
get
out
of
school,
the
hell
is
Councilwoman,
give
up
their
bragging
talking
about.
Did
the
Glen
Mills
is
closed.
I
had
to
check
that's
a
Glen.
Mills
is
closed
and
ain't
like
they
went
to
college
yeah
act
like
they
graduated
from
Glen
Mills
and
went
to
college.
No,
they
went
to
your
new
prison
in
Philadelphia.
P
Things
like
they
went
to
college
enough,
so
I
mean
we
we
need.
We
need
to
stop
playing
these
games.
We're
gonna
tell
you
right
now
we
not
between
out
the
ones
for
this
I'm.
Just
being
honest
with
you,
we
not
it's
not
that
kind
of
party
no
more
slavery
is
over.
Slavery
is
over.
Slavery
is
over
and
we
will
no
longer
be
oppressed
because
we
are
taught
that
oppression
is
worse
than
slaughter.
If
you're
going
to
oppress
me,
then
you
might
as
well
just
kill
me
now
miles.
P
Just
kill
me
now
and
I
ain't
got
nothing
to
lose.
Ain't
got
nothing
to
lose
and
that's
all
we
said
so
I'm
going
to
make
a
plea
to
you
all
and
we're
gonna.
Ask
you
please
pass
this
bill
out
of
committee,
because
when
the
bill
is
introduced
by
our
great
Councilwoman
Cindy
bass,
we've
got
nine
co-sponsors.
If
that
don't
say
something
to
you
that
nine
people
out
of
17
want
to
help,
people
want
to
help
us
and
you
all
could
sit
up
there
and
think
that
Donna
I
don't
care
what
they
say.
P
We're
not
doing
nothing.
I,
don't
know
what
kind
of
games
y'all
playing
down
here
or
how
y'all
keep
fighting
amongst
each
other,
how
y'all
keep
going
at
each
other,
but
stop
using
the
common
people
as
collateral
damage.
Stop
using
us
as
collateral
damage.
Get
us
out.
The
middle
of
y'all
want
to
fight
y'all
want
to
play
these
games.
P
Do
that
on
your
own
time,
stop
using
the
poor
people
as
collateral
damage
and
I'm
telling
you
right
now
they
got
a
voice
now
if
they
never
had
one
before
and
I'm
telling
you
right
now,
I
don't
come
by
myself,
I,
don't
come
by
myself,
I'm
like
I'm,
letting
you
know
that
we're
gonna
ask
you
again
that
we
please
pray
that
you
all
do
the
right
thing
that
you
get
this
bill
out
of
committee
and
allow
the
council
people
on
the
floor
to
vote
for
this
bill
have
a
fair
vote.
That's
what
I'm
asking
you!
P
Let
it
come
out
of
committee
and
let
the
council
people
do
the
right
thing:
it's
17
up.
Let
them
do
the
right
thing
and
let
them
have
a
vote.
We
had
now
nine
votes
coming
out
of
a
coat
that
co-sponsored
the
bill
right
now
we're
up
to
11
votes
as
we
count
it.
People
that's
going
to
vote
for
this
amnesty
bill.
We
get
one
more
vote.
It
makes
it
veto
proof.
P
A
A
If
any
of
you
are
here,
feel
free
to
sit
down
at
the
witness
table
three
at
a
time
and
the
others
of
you
are
here
police
said
in
the
blackwell
leather
chairs.
We
will
otherwise
assume
that
we
have
heard
all
those
who
wish
to
testify-
and
again
we
thank
all
of
you
for
being
here,
alright
feel
free
to
introduce
yourself
and
begin
your
testimony.
I
A
I
Family
old
friend,
Cheryl,
Parker
and
I
would
be
a
hypocrite
if
I
didn't
tell
you
the
truth
and
I'm
here
to
say
to
you
with
God's
name
the
beneficent
the
merciful
I
come
to
you
doing
as
a
native-born
Philadelphia
in
support
of
a
tax
amnesty
bill,
a
bill
that
will
give
emergency
emergency
relief
to
the
largest
segment
segment
of
the
population
of
citizens
in
Philadelphia
in
the
hospital
when
a
patient
needs
emergency
help
because
he's
in
trauma
the
first
thing
the
doctor
does
is
stop
the
bleeding
Cheryl.
Did
you
hear
this
Cheryl?
I
The
first
thing
that
doctor
does
in
the
hospital
in
a
trauma
center
is
stop
the
bleeding,
because
that
patient
is
in
trauma.
The
next
thing
I'm
looking
at
that
the
patient.
Not
only
is
he
in
trauma,
is
an
economic
and
mental
despair.
That's
the
citizens,
that's
the
segment
of
the
population,
the
largest
poorest
section
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia
Solomon,
a
great
prophet
of
Israel,
all
the
wisdom
and
all
the
good
intentions.
I
It
is
documented
that
he
killed
his
kingdom
because
he
overtaxed
the
people
and
what
I
say
over
text
to
people
I
mean
in
so
many
ways.
Our
government
has
run
out
of
ideas,
they're
bankrupting
ideas.
So
what
do
they
do?
They
promote
gambling?
What
do
they
do
promote
drugs?
What
do
they
do?
Promote
casinos?
Where
prostitution
flourishes?
What
do
they
do?
I
They
hire
psychiatrists
to
come
up
with
exotic
schemes
to
get
people
to
buy
into
games
of
chances,
so
they
can
lose
their
money,
and
you
and
I
know
that
the
government
has
already
stacked
the
deck
against
millions
to
join
in
a
game
of
chance
that
they
cannot
win.
This
is
what
our
government
does
they
on
the
backs
of
the
people
and,
as
the
brother
said,
who
lost
his
life
in
New
York
from
selling
just
cigarettes
on
the
corner,
I
can't
breathe.
I
I
I
I
So
we
come
across
a
union
that
has
been
buying
this
city
forever,
propped
up
a
mayor
and
put
a
pic
behind
him
covered
up
his
frailties
and
I'm
ready
to
put
my
money
behind
a
bus
and
chase
you
wherever
you
go
and
let
you
die
like
a
vampire
in
the
light
of
the
Sun,
because
you're
not
gonna
cross
me
ain't
in
no
fan
club
got
a
lost
guy.
Not
you
not
him,
not
Johnny
doc.
I
We
got
three
companies
right
now
in
this
african-americans
get
ready
to
lose
their
contract
because
Johnny's
not
wanted
I
am
sick
and
tired
of
Negroes
filing
white
folks
stand
up
and
be
a
man
and
look
at
your
model
example
as
either
Jesus
or
Muhammad.
And
what
would
they
do?
Don't
give
me?
No
intellectual
masturbation
cuz
you
down
a
few
degrees.
I
got
one
two
three
University
of
Pennsylvania
Master
program,
but
I
am
sick
and
tired
of
seeing
our
people
being
exploited
and
being
bought
off
for
a
few
dollars
for
a
little
bit
of
power.
I
When
you
all
can
work
together,
there's
more
when
I
was
a
little
boy,
I'm
older
than
all
of
y'all
up
there
when
I
was
a
little
boy,
this
place
was
lily-white,
and
now
you
can't
even
get
black
folks
to
go
across
the
street
together
if
they
in
line
dancing
ain't
doing
nothing.
This
is
ridiculous
and
you
gotta
find
a
way
because
we're
gonna
chase
you
down,
no
matter
where
you
go
mr.
button,
Elly
didn't
put
you
in
office.
Mr.
I
J
Peace
be
unto
all
you,
my
name's
Mike
up
door,
I'm,
actually
the
assistant
imam
at
masjid
mohammed,
and
when
the
evap
says
he
says
I'm
not
by
myself
right,
no
he's
not
I
definitely
had
sustainable
from
always
for
the
cradle
to
the
grave,
and
everything
that
he
has
said
he
has
said
was
enough
for
me.
He
ma'am
Salaam,
have
said
more
than
enough
for
me
and
what
I
wanted
to
share
with?
J
You
is
maybe
a
small
story,
and
it's
because
I
had
a
young
brothers
and
sister
who
actually
went
to
college
got
their
masters
and
they
finished
and
already
doing
very
well
right
now,
sup,
my
young
brother.
He
didn't
make
it
that
far.
Somebody
killed
him
on
the
streets
riding
in
his
car
shot
him
in
his
arm
and
he
died
right
at
the
hospital.
J
Now
my
sister
she's
doing
very
well.
The
problem
of
it
is
is
when
they
came
out
of
college.
My
brother
said
to
me:
she
said:
take
them
back
to
the
old
neighborhood
and
sure
where
we
came
from
and
how
they
got
what
they
got.
She
wanted
to
know
how
hard
heard
my
father
and
my
family
had
struggled
to
get
where
they
had
to
get
to
and
when
I
went
to
take
them
back.
It
was
no
house
there.
There
was
no
block
there.
I
couldn't
show
him.
My
history,
I
couldn't
tell
him
about
the
times.
J
We
was
killing
the
rats
inside
the
bathtub
and
they
was
hopping
out
and
how
we
had
to
get
rid
of
them
during
the
night.
I
couldn't
show
him
these
things,
I
couldn't
sure
when
we
lived
in
the
neighborhood
and
it
started
off
with
the
Jewish.
Families
went
to
the
Hispanic
families
or
the
so-called
black
families,
and
then
we
had
to
all
live
together.
J
I
couldn't
show
him
a
lot
of
things
about
our
history
because
it
was
wiped
away
from
either
taxes,
delinquent
property
or
intellibid
deeds
or
whatever
they
was
gone,
wiped
away,
no
history,
so
my
uncle
Toby,
you
know
a
young
boy
said
we
are
always
mystery
and
they
always
have
a
history.
He
says
so
that's
how
it
is
for
us
and
when
I
had
to
take
them
back
home
and
said
to
my
mother
mom.
J
You
know
the
house
is
gone,
1542,
nuf,
six
feet,
I,
never
forgot
dad,
dress,
let
Law
School
up
64
now
and
I
never
forgot
the
address
cuz.
That's
all
I
had
to
remember
iw
bounce
boys
club.
All
these
different
things
that
I
experienced
and
all
the
things
I
wanted
to
tell
them
and
a
family
of
10
children.
She
had
five
girls
and
five
boys.
All
those
people
now
are
deceased
and
suffer
be
they
deceased
and
I.
Have
no
history
to
show
none
of
my
time,
another,
the
ones
that
are
left.
They
chose
why?
J
You
have
to
look
at
this
and
understand
that
here
law
for
the
majority
of
our
history
that
we
have
has
wiped
away.
Because
of
these
words
that
we
use,
we
sit
down
all
the
time.
We
make
up
something
new
and
we
play
the
number
games,
but
it
doesn't
affect
nobody,
but
us
because
the
majority
city
is
after
Americans.
Anyway,
that's
what
effect
it
effect,
the
very
poor,
a
very
poor
Caucasian,
the
very
poor,
our
expense,
and
it
definitely
affects
the
very
poor
blacks.
That's
all
it
affects.
So
here
again
when
you
talk
about
these
abatements.
J
If
we
give
them
all
these
great
names,
let's
say
it
like:
it
is:
I'll
cut
the
rich
guy,
a
break
and
the
poor
guy
over
here,
I'm
just
gonna.
Do
what
I
want
with
him
and
he'll
pay
for
your
break?
So
don't
you
worry
about
it,
don't
worry
about
it.
This
is
the
way
life
gotta
go.
But
I
tell
you
like
this
all
kid
of
them
all.
Neither
that
we're
going
to
stuff
with
me
I,
don't
have
nothing
to
lose.
J
I'm
64
I
have
actually
I'm
on
my
sixth
Passport
I
travel
a
lot
so
I'm,
just
seeing
quite
a
bit
and
God
has
blessed
me
quite
a
bit
so
in
that
city
today,
I,
don't
ask
people
for
welfare
enough
had
never
had
it.
In
my
life,
cuz
I
always
had
a
beans,
hey
girl.
We
had
a
bean
to
take
care
of
me
in
my
family,
so
I
stand
very
strong
beside
you
and
Sue
today
beside
my
community,
my
loving
community-
and
this
is
my
family
I'm.
J
Looking
at
all
the
room
around
me,
I
can't
play
the
game
like
he
can't
play
the
game
and
there's
nobody
that
up
going
back
into
slavery
or
anything
for
I
will
not
be
nobody.
Economical,
slave
and
I
would
not
be.
Nobody
fool,
I
beg
you
today
and
in
this
strange
because
I'm
not
used
to
even
using
that
word.
I
beg
you,
especially
when
I'm,
not
at
my
doggy
or
at
all
I'm.
The
majority
in
this
city.
I
shouldn't
be
saying:
I
beg
you,
but
I'm
saying
like
this
right.
J
I
think
that
this
tax
MZ
bill
is
the
best
thing
possible
to
bring
about
some
kind
of
resolution
or
peace
to
the
city
or
peace
to
these
people,
peace
to
all
of
us.
So
then,
why
fight
it?
Why
even
go
through
all
this?
It
should
have
been
something
long
done
long
past
done.
Every
time
I
came
home,
I
looked
at
this
city
from
the
crack
ever
did
it
from
the
heroin
epidemic
to
just
city
and
I
and
I
cried
of
many
nights
over.
J
My
people
and
my
wife
asked
me
why
you
feeling
like
that,
why
you
acting
like
that
I
said:
I
have
seen
a
whole
lot
of
different
communities,
a
lot
of
different
people
in
adhesions,
Africans
everything
and
nobody
lives
like
us,
and
the
so-called
Great
America.
Nobody
lives
like
us
with
Philadelphia
anywhere
go
in
the
world.
People
say
we
floor
full
of
it.
They
go
crazy
and
I
stand
there.
Look
at
him
saying
you
want
to
come
live
is
full
of
it.
J
Why
why
they
don't
know
if
they
came
here,
they
would
be
shocked
and
the
majority
people
come
in.
They
are
shocked.
It's
a
filthy,
place,
filthy
place.
You
got
a
single
poor
need
off
the
grounds
you
go
anywhere
in
the
world
and
the
place
is
clean.
We
sit
in
America
with
all
the
so-called
money
and
again
this
day,
we're
talking
about.
It
doesn't
touch
the
budget
of
full
of
313
million
dollars.
He
said
no
and
we
act
like
and
we
act
like
that's
a
problem.
J
One
thing
I
was
always
told
not
to
be
racist,
because
this
girl
was
somebody
colors
and
complexion,
but
it's
alright
to
be
President
and
said:
what's
you
mean
to
be
President?
He
said
always
care
about
taking
care
your
own
before
you
take
care
of
somebody
else.
So
if
you
don't
care
about
your
own
and
we're
so
good
on
the
plantation
that
we
got
to
take
care,
the
master,
something
is
definitely
wrong
with
us.
Something
definitely
have
to
be
turned
around
or
killed
off.
J
J
Say
again,
I
beg
you
to
hear
this
thing
understand
what
it
is
that
we're
asking
for
and
what
we
asked
him
for,
not
just
for
us,
because
your
grandchild,
whoever
else
or
your
grandmother
somebody
else,
can
be
in
the
same
situation.
So
this
is
for
humanity
itself,
it's
a
bill
for
Humanity,
not
just
for
the
so-called
Muslims
or
or
this
guy
over
here
that
guy
over
the
other
Christmas
or
whatever
it's
a
bill
for
everyone,
is
a
bill
to
humanity.
A
F
Don't
believe
I'm
here
again
talking
about
this
housing
situation.
It
was
six
months
ago,
I
was
here
and
we
have
been
calling
for
a
moratorium
on
the
only
share
of
cells
and
hearings
on
the
same
on
this
very
issue,
so
we
could
really
find
out
what
was
going
on
and
councilman
Jones
called
for
the
moratorium
and
the
hearings
and
everybody
voted.
Yes,
every
one
of
you
up.
There
voted
for
for
moratorium
and
for
the
hearings
and
I
sent
a
letter
to
you
two
months
ago
asking
what
happened
today.
F
Committee,
the
people
that
was
justifying
here
speak
about
how
if
we
were
to
have
any
tax
amnesty,
how
that
tax
amnesty
was
going
to
cost
the
city
money
because
right
now,
it's
tax
season.
Well,
if
you
enforce
the
moratorium,
then
we'll
have
time
they
can
finish
their
taxes
and
we
can
them.
Then
we
can
begin
to
address
how
much
it's
going
to
cost
or
what
the
setback
will
be
for
the
amnesty
bill.
F
Six
months
ago,
I
came
before
before
the
council
and
I
stated
that
in
January
of
2018
there
were
28,000
owner-occupied
tax,
delinquent
properties
up
for
sale
in
this
city
28000
mind
you.
This
was
the
50th
of
fair
housing
bill
6000
is
28,000
the
senior
citizens
senior
citizens,
somebody
senior
citizens.
I
sat
listen
to
this
story
and
some
of
them
have
lived
in
the
houses
for
40
and
50
years.
They
owe
less
than
ten
thousand
dollars
on
their
properties
and
they
were
honored.
F
F
First
of
all,
the
loop
program
you
have
to
qualify
for
one
of
qualifications
is
your
I
believe
is
that
your
taxes
had
to
go
up
at
least
two
or
three
times
and
this
in
the
same
year,
many
people
didn't
qualify
that
didn't
happen
to
them.
It
wasn't
that
their
taxes
went
up.
It
was
that
their
that
they
were
on
the
old
taxes
and
something
for
some
reason.
F
The
city
came
after
them
for,
like
I,
said
for
less
than
$10,000,
so
there
are
barriers
other
than
just
walking
down
and
say
I
want
to
get
into
a
program.
There
are
other
barriers
to
getting
in
mr.
haynam,
so
there's
not
that
easy,
also
up
until
up
until
they
revamped
the
program,
which
was
a
couple
months
ago.
If
you
were
in
foreclosure,
you
couldn't
get
into
a
program.
F
You
had
to
go
through
the
housing
counselors
before
you
could
get
into
a
program,
so
was
never
that
easy
to
just
walk
in
and
say
I'm
behind
on
my
taxes,
I
want
to
get
into
a
program,
they
just
revamped
the
programs.
Now
you
can
walk
down
there
and
the
revenue
department
can
stop
your
foreclosure
to
wait
at
the
housing
counselors
used
to
be
able
to
do
so.
You
can
go
down
there
now,
but
again,
how
do
we
advertise
the
programs
that
exist
in
this
city?
F
I've
went
around.
My
organization
has
run
around
and
we
have
asked
people
senior
citizens
who
have
letter
sent
it
there
for
that,
but
there
for
sure
ask
them
about
a
program.
They'll
know
anything
about
it.
You
have
a
group
individuals
from
the
Revenue
Service,
whose
job
it
is
to
notify
28,000
people
about
programs
how's
that
even
possible.
F
Whatever
happened
to
public
service
announcements
on
the
radio
and
on
television,
there
has
to
be
a
better
way
to
notify
the
people
of
the
programs
that
you're
talking
about
if
you're,
going
to,
if
you're
gonna
use
that
as
some
type
of
measure
stick,
how
many
people
even
know
about
the
program
and
how
are
you
letting
them
know
once
when
we
start
there,
then,
if
you
say
well,
we've
been
doing
all
these
things
that
let
people
know
and
they
still
don't
act
and
yes,
I
can
see.
You
wouldn't
use
that
and
tell
the
people.
F
Well,
that's
not
our
fault,
or
is
this
easy?
But
that's
not
that's
not
how
it's
been
up
until
less
than
two
months
ago.
Now
of
a
sudden,
you
know
they
they
opening
the
doors
for
the
programs
but
they're
still
not
letting
people
know
about
the
programs.
How
about
we
think
about
that
for
a
minute
if,
in
fact,
the
people
don't
know
about
the
programs,
nobody
can
use
them,
and
this
this
thing
about
96%
of
collections
and
how
great
that
is
96%
of
the
tax
collections.
That
includes
the
taxes
that
are
collected
from
the
sheriff
sales.
F
It
doesn't
take
a
genius
to
figure
that
one
out
so
saying
that
it's
a
great
thing
that
we're
collecting
taxes
at
96%
when
you
have
a
record
number
of
especially
senior
citizens
losing
their
homes,
that's
where
that
number
boosts
up,
because
you
have
a
record
number
of
people
losing
their
homes
and
that
money's
going
through
the
taxes.
But
nobody
wants
to
talk
about
that.
F
Let's
talk
about
how
the
tax
and
how
their
property
tax
kiss
so
high.
Everyone
in
here
knows
that
the
OPA
has
been
incorrect
when
they
assess
people's
tax
I
get
an
example,
the
property
that
we
just
had
to
deal
with
on
46
and
market
we
had
to
here,
and
they
tried
to
tell
us
that
the
property
was
owned,
only
worth
10
million
dollars.
This
was
supposed
to
be
an
assessment.
Who
did
that
assessment?
F
The
city
paid
51
million
51
million
dollars
to
renovate
the
property,
but
it
was
only
worth
10
million
dollars
who
supposed
to
believe
that
the
city
paid
51
put
51
million
dollars
into
a
property
that
they
turn
around
and
so
because
they
said
it
was
only
worth
to
me
and
they
so
to
pretend
me
this
what
we
deal
with
it
and
you
want
to
take
you
don't
want
to
give
it.
You
don't
give
a
tax
amnesty,
but
you
can
throw
away
money
like
that.
F
F
And
let's
get
let's
think
about
this:
if
we're
losing
money,
if
this
money
been
lost
to
the
schools
and
how
about
how
about
we
reverse
that
tax
abatement
and
start
using
as
that
money
to
put
into
the
schools
these
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
that
are
being
attacked,
the
tax
advantage
book
use
that
money
and
let
that
one
to
take
the
schools.
While
we
gonna
end
why
the
senior
citizens,
who
have
put
their
time
and
effort
for
the
last
50
60,
some
of
them
seven
years
they've,
been
paying
taxes.
How
about
they
get
a
break.
F
F
F
Movement
I'll
say
I'm,
asking
I'm,
not
begging,
Muslims,
don't
beg
Muslims,
do
not
beg
I'm,
asking
I'm
asking
that
you
look
at
the
situation
and
yeah
like
I
said:
I
understand
that
it
may
it
may
cause
cause
you
to
have
to
give
up
a
few
dollars
you're
even
giving
up
a
few
dollars
for
a
few
centuries,
I'm
adding
on
Bill,
go
into
the
slavery
null
and
we're
not
gonna
get
into
it.
This
is
not
a
black
thing.
This
is
a
human
thing:
the
poor,
blacks,
the
poor
whites,
the
poorest
Hispanics.
F
They
all
have
been
suffering
from
his
tax
from
this
tax,
crazy
taxes
and
from
the
'sheriff
cells.
So
we
ramp
up
asking
we're
here
to
ask
not
to
beg
but
to
ask
that
you
vote
this
out
of
committee
and
support
this
bill
so
that
we
can
allow
these
our
people
and
I'm
talk
about
the
people
of
Philadelphia
to
get
a
break
and
be
able
to
keep
our
homes
stay
in
our
communities
and
be
a
part
of
this.
What
y'all
call
the
2035
plan?
F
We
don't
want
to
have
to
be
outside
the
city
and
have
to
get
a
pass
to
come
in
here
for
eight
hours
and
then
get
kicked
back
out.
I
was
born
here.
My
grandmother
was
born
here.
I
feel
like
I,
have
a
right
to
be
here
and
I
have
a
right
to
the
same
rights
that
everyone
else
is
both
had
life
liberty
and
the
pursuit
of
happiness.
F
L
Q
A
Q
P
Q
Q
Tr5
says
I,
think
the
maximum
was
25,000
so
she's
under
that.
So
she
gets
no
amnesty.
This
is
a
question.
I
have
because
I
said
to
her.
So
mom
I
got
this
tax
amnesty
coming
up
and
it's
gonna
cut
your
taxes.
She
said
when
I
said
well,
let
me
see
86,
probably
not
in
this
lifetime,
probably
not
in
this
lifetime,
so
she's
under
the
eligibility
level.
Q
How
does
that
work?
Ninety-Six
percent
collection
rate
for
real
estate
and
ninety
percent
for
other
collection
rates?
So
that's
like
a
hundred
and
eighty
six
percent.
So
does
any
of
that
money
go
toward
this
amnesty?
Can
any
of
that
money
go
toward
this
MSD?
Is
it
any
of
that
money
left
to
go
toward
us?
Amnesty
all,
right?
Well,
so
I'm
here
to
give
this
testimony
as
I
read
over
it.
It's
more
like
a
plea.
Q
It
says
please
City
Council
members
I'm
asking
for
your
help:
I'm
a
single
mother
with
four
children
living
in
North
Philly,
I
acquire
my
grandmother's
home,
which
was
passed
down
to
my
mother
and
now
I.
Have
it
with
my
three
daughters
and
one
son.
Recently
I
received
my
tax
bill
and
my
taxes
went
up
to
over
four
thousand
dollars
a
year
and
she
got
three
four
kids
third
generation
house
I
was
already
behind
on
taxes
that
my
mother
owed
when
she
owned
the
property.
Q
Now
my
taxes
in
total
are
over
43
thousand
dollars
in
arrears
with
the
last
four
years
being
the
new
assess
amount,
which
added
over
$20,000
to
my
already
delinquent
and
other
$23,000,
which
was
only
$11,000
in
principle,
which,
if
my
bill
was
$11,000,
I,
could
have
been
given
a
payment
agreement
at
$11,000.
But
since
it's
now
$23,000
she
doesn't
get
anything
either
that
I
could
have
afforded,
but
which
is
now
out
of
reach.
Q
It
says:
I
went
to
the
office
of
property
assessment,
the
BRT
and
community
legal
services
with
no
help
from
any
of
them
is
not
fair
and
right
across
the
street.
It
says
this
from
her:
they
were
building
new
homes
with
no
taxes
at
all.
So
for
this
this
for
this
person
who's
putting
out
this
plea,
do
she
could
text
amnesty
because
the
sister
I'm
sorry
I'm
gonna
be
renamed?
No,
not.
He
was
the
other
sister.
She
was
giving
out
scenarios
Terrell.
She
was
giving
us
scenarios
and
she
says
so.
The
parking
lot
attendant
who's
delinquent.
Q
Does
he
get
amnesty?
The
gentleman
said
yes
for
the
man
for
the
small
business
owner
on
the
corner
selling
drugs
in
the
store
out
of
store,
honest
or
would
he
receive
tax
amnesty?
The
gentleman
said
yes,
but
this
woman,
who
doesn't
have
a
business
and
whose
property
taxes
have
been
raised,
double
the
amount,
it
doesn't
say
it
doesn't
say
the
type
of
job
she
had.
You
know
any
of
that,
but
she
has
three
kids,
so
we
know
she's
into
some
type
of
work.
Q
She
gives
no
amnesty,
and
this
is
not
fair.
This
is
not
fair
to
her
and
to
all
who
represent
her
and
to
all
who's
in
the
same
field
as
her.
It's
not
fair
to
the
seniors
who
are
on
fixed
incomes.
They
only
get
like
nineteen
dollars
and
food
stamps
what
you
gonna
do
with
that
buy
a
loaf
of
bread
and
a
thing
of
milk.
You
know
it's
on
you,
so
much
french
toast
you
can
eat
so
up.
So
you
know
so
yes,
tax
amnesty.
It
would
be
best
best
for
everybody.
Q
Once
again,
this
is
not
a
bag.
This
is
a
plea,
a
plea
to
the
sensitivity
that
we
need
to
have
for
each
other,
for
our
heart
for
our
minds.
You
know
just
for
us
to
survive
in
Philadelphia
we're
not
even
talking
about
out
of
Philadelphia
we're
talking
about
in
Philadelphia.
The
Philadelphia
need
this
in
order
to
keep
their
homes
to
pass
it
on
to
raise
their
children,
and
that's
all
I
have
to
say.
N
I,
just
my
name
is
Tiffany
green
and
I
want
to
speak
on
this
bill.
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
my
brothers
and
sisters
for
even
bringing
this
up.
This
is
necessary
in
a
time
of
Jena
fication
being
at
the
foremost
up,
Philadelphia
I
want
to
talk
about
in
terms
of
why
we
shouldn't
ever
even
we
shouldn't
even
have
to
go
through
hours
of
asking
bleeding
or
whatever.
N
The
case
may
be
at
this
particular
point,
because
it's
critical
that
we
begin
to
protect
ourselves
and
particularly
protect
the
black
community
and
Philadelphia,
because
we
are
the
number
one
target.
We
are
the
turkey
on
the
table.
Let's
not
forget
that
in
Point
Breeze
and
in
our
area,
Smith
school
was
sold
to
a
developer,
a
school
that
was
filled
to
capacity
over
400
kids
majority
was
on
the
lunch
program,
which
meant
that
they
were
a
certain
income.
Majority
were
ventures
when
this
school
was
sold
to
the
developer.
N
A
particular
developer
now
he's
going
to
put
75
market
rate
units
in
the
school,
and
not
only
that
he's
putting
25,
not
half
a
million
dollar
homes
in
the
school
yard.
It
has
just
been
put
out
on
Xylo,
seven
hundred
and
ninety
five
thousand
dollars
for
25
schools
in
the
schoolyard
tax
abatement.
Is
that
a
tax
abatement
or
is
that
tax
amnesty
for
newcomers
coming
in
to
Philadelphia?
That
is
a
serious
problem
and
that's
why
we
have
to
start
putting
things
in
place
to
help
our
people
stay
in
their
homes.
N
I
was
just
coming
down
on
the
bus
and
I
just
want
anything
and
they
have
the
Laurel.
The
Laurel
is
located
at
1911,
Walnut,
Street
off
of
20th
and
Sansome.
I
said
you.
Let
me
that
up
now
the
Laurel
according
to
Philly,
curb
calm,
is
a
300
million
dollar
tower
by
the
Southern
land
company.
Are
they
getting
a
10
year
tax
abatement
on
this
48
storey
tower
now,
in
the
tower
this
luxury
residential
tower
up
to
the
25th
floor
will
be
market
rate
rental
units.
N
Now,
are
we
getting
any
money
off
the
rental
luxury
rental
units?
There
has
been
all
down:
Center
City,
where's,
the
money
coming
off
of
that
then,
from
the
26th
floor,
all
the
way
up
to
the
48th
floor.
I
just
want
to
read
what
they
said.
Real
quick
and
then
I'm
very
short,
the
three
hundred
million
dollar
Tower
at
a
1911
Walnut
Street,
will
have
retail
and
Lobby
up
to
through
to
25th
will
be
market
rate
rental
units
and
including
pool
fitness
or
whatever.
Then
it
says
the
remaining
stories
will
hold
luxury
multi-million
dollar
condos.
N
Now
under
the
condos
they
qualify
for
10
year
tax
abatements.
Then,
if
you
go
on,
they
say
the
upstairs
condos
start
at
1700
square
feet
for
2.4
million
dollars.
Are
these
new
residents
going
to
get
a
tax
abatement
for
2.4
million
dollars
and
reach
up
to
9,000
square
feet?
415
million
dollars
they're
going
to
get
a
10
year
tax
abatement?
So
why
are
we
sitting
here
talking
about?
Should
somebody
get
MST?
Do
you
qualify
for
this?
N
Do
you
qualify
for
that
when
you
are
giving
out
10
year,
tax
abatement
for
2.5
million
dollar,
condos,
15,
million-dollar,
condos,
300,
million-dollar
towers,
and
then
you
know
the
developer
to
come
in
here.
Do
a
300
million
dollar
tower
and
he
gets
to
transfer
his
10
year
tax
abatement
to
out
to
all
of
these
other
individual
residents
and
you
gonna
sit
and
say:
that's,
not
amis.
No,
this
bill
actually
does
not
go
further
enough.
N
It
needs
to
be
50%
off
a
principle
anybody
owing
more
than
$2,500,
because
if
you
even
went
down
and
got
a
payment
plan,
we
recently
had
a
tax
meeting
with
Vicki
rally,
bless
her
heart
and
if
you've
got
a
more
than
2500
2500
and
you
only
paying
$20
or
2500
you're
never
going
to
catch
up.
So
why
not
make
it
a
level
playing
field
because
you're
not
going
to
catch
up?
We
need
to
make
it,
whereas
if
you
can
mow
more
than
$2,000,
you
should
be
able
to
get
an
amnesty
issue.
N
Amnesty
for
50%
off
the
principle,
not
just
the
principle,
not
just
the
interest
and
penalty.
But
let's
talk
about
the
principle,
because
you'll
be
here
for
the
next
ten
years
trying
to
pay
off
this
little
bit
of
principle.
It
is
not
fair.
We
have
hundreds
of
buildings,
quite
a
sweeping
down
center
city
that
have
luxury
condos
that
are
getting
tenure.
Tax,
abatements
that
you're
letting
this
money
walk
out.
N
No,
the
10
year
tax
abatement
should
be
coming
to
an
end,
not
no
fix
it
not
know
reducing
10987
know
the
reality.
It
was
supposed
to
spark
it.
It
wasn't
supposed
to
get
to
the
point
where
it
pushed
us
out.
We
understand
that
so
I
just
want
to
finish
it
up
with
the
fact
that
I
think
that
we
need
to
take
into
consideration
that
this
one
building
alone
is
it's
not
contributing
to
fill
enough.
You
can't
go
to
enough
restaurants
and
movie
theaters,
as
certain
people
say.
What
are
you
bringing
revenue
into
the
city?
N
N
It
includes
principle
for
those
that
Oh
more
than
two
thousand
dollars,
because
the
reality
of
it
is
that,
were
you
at
the
bellevue-stratford,
with
with
the
fountain
and
everything
flowing
and
the
developers
over
there
patting
you
on
your
back
at
that
point:
you're
offering
them
ten.
Ten
year
tax
abatement
on
three
hundred
million
dollars,
our
towers.
G
G
That
I
see
from
experience
the
necessity
to
deal
with
tax
amnesty
and
make
the
field
playing
I
apologize,
I,
counsel,
people,
I,
know,
I,
can't
counsel,
counsel,
counsel,
Councilwoman,
Parkin,
everybody
I
know:
I
can't
tell
you
all
what
to
do:
I'm,
all
ma'am
and
I'm
in
a
habit
of
talking
to
people
when
I
see
that
I'm
being
rude
to
them.
I,
you
know
I,
try
to
ask
them
to
stop
talking
so
I
can
hear
what
I
say
may
not
mean
nothing.
When
you
all
finish,
we
see
the
numbers.
G
I
didn't
know
what
he
was
said,
but
he
said
that
it
was
supposed
to
be
a
certain
number
of
people
here
to
even
make
it
relevant
as
a
vote
from
committee
and
I
pray
that
you
all
take
us
seriously.
I
mean
I,
don't
I,
don't
I,
don't
like
name-calling
and
all
that
old,
stuff
and
I
appreciate
some
of
you.
That's
right
there,
mr.
Greenlee,
if
you
can
they
hit
us
mr.
Grady,
mr.
mr.
Bush,
y'all,
hainan
missing,
you
know:
I'm
old,
I'm,
old,
probably
older
than
you
anyway
and
I
would
like
you
know,
just
I.
G
Don't
want
to
take
your
time,
but
I
would
like
you
to
lease
seem
like
you're
listening
to
us.
You
know
I'm
a
Vietnam
vet
and
when
people
look
at
me
they
say
thank
you
for
your
service.
You,
you
all
even
said
it
and
I
appreciate
that
and
I
was
trying
to
think
what
would
I
say
in
a
few
minutes.
If
I
got
a
chance
to
do
it
and
basically
I
think
all
of
you
should
do
something
with
this
bill
that
Councilwoman
Cindy
bass
has
proposed.
G
G
Appreciate
what
you
all
do
you
17
people
can't
handle
every
situation
in
the
city?
We
know
that,
but
this
you
know
started
with
others
as
well
as
email
ma.
Sucah
Dean
is
pretty
much
a
no-brainer
with
all
the
problems
that's
going
on
in
America
today
and
even
the
city
of
Philadelphia.
We
copy
other
cities
if
they
do
something
good
and
we
bring
it
and
try
it
here.
This
is
the
City
of
Brotherly
Love.
Once
upon
a
time
we
did
things
in
Philly
and
they
took
it
somewhere
else.
G
You
know
it's
hard
talking
to
them.
They
look
at
a
piece
of
paper
and
they
say
you're
wrong,
like
as
if
the
person
don't
know
what
they've
been
doing
all
the
time.
We
need
your
help
all
right
and
we're
not.
We
may
use
the
term
begging
you
or
you
know.
We
need
it
because
we
trust
you
to
represent
us.
G
Your
help,
but,
as
someone
said
not
just
for
the
Muslims,
not
just
for
the
blacks,
what's
wrong
with
giving
the
city
you
know
somebody
said
earlier:
you
know
what
the
the
bad
not
exactly
word
for
word,
but
the
bad
was
to
get
this
tax
break.
There
used
to
be
a
saying
when
I
was
a
child
that
is
better
to
let
10
guilty
people
go
free,
then
arrest,
one
innocent
person.
If
you
made
a,
if
you
made
a
decision
that
affected
everybody,
what
do
they
got
money,
whether
he's
crooked,
whether
they
broke
black
right
homeless?
Ever?
G
If
you
did
that
for
the
city
just
to
help
it
heal,
the
good
people
will
respect
that.
You
know
the
ones
that
don't
respect
things.
They
don't
respect
it
anyway.
You
give
them
something:
they're,
not
gonna,
respect
you
take
it
from
them.
They're
not
gonna
respect
it,
but
there
are
people
that
really
believe
in
the
government.
G
You
know
when
I
was
in
Vietnam.
I
didn't
know
how
much
I
I
was
believing
in
the
government
and
I.
Don't
like
everything,
that's
done,
but
it's
not
done
for
just
me.
It's
done
for
the
world
or
for
the
country
or
in
this
case
for
the
city.
So
no
I,
don't
I,
don't
like
I'll
join
in,
but
I,
don't
like
hollering
and
rabble
rising
and
stuff
like
that.
G
But
our
appeal
is
just
hear
us.
I
mean
it's
logical
that
if,
if
I'm
rich-
and
you
can
give
me
a
break,
but
a
poor
person
got
to
pay
the
weight
of
what
I
got
a
break
for
what's
wrong
with
giving
that
person
a
break,
so
the
people
who
don't
have
are
being
spoke
for
here
and
you
all
will
be
the
ones
that
are
answered.
G
G
The
killings
won't
stop
people,
don't
have
relief,
I
mean
it's
just.
You
know.
We
know
it's
crazy.
Whatever
is
coming
from
out
the
area.
Philadelphia
should
be
an
example.
Our
council
said
you
know,
I,
don't
vote
for
people,
I
might
vote.
Democrat
I
was
a
Republican
Committee
person
for
a
period
I,
don't
I'm.
Looking
for
the
best
person,
I,
don't
vote
for
anybody
to
get
in
office
and
didn't
hold
up
what
they
are
democrat
or
republican.
G
I
vote
for
the
best
choice
to
help
the
people,
not
just
me,
I,
don't
I,
don't
want
a
mayor
that
I
could
put
in
my
pocket
and
he's
my
mayor
and
nobody
else
could
speak
to
a
moral
council
person,
but
I
want
all
of
them
to
have
a
ear
for
when
something
is
hurting
me
or
hurting
somebody
else
in
the
community.
You
heard
we
feel
it,
but
if
we
hurt
you
should
feel
it.
So
this
is
easy.
G
It
doesn't
take
much
to
say:
let's,
let's
pass
this
now,
you
know
I
have
a
way
to
look
at
it.
I
hadn't
heard
up
I
didn't
inherit
the
property
I
in
her
debt,
because
I
brought
a
property.
This
is
the
paperwork.
I
put
me
for
all
of
you
and
I'm,
not
pleading
my
case
right
now,
I'm
also
giving
an
example
of
my
mindset.
G
The
people
owed
taxes
from
1999,
no
five,
nobody
ever
said
anything
to
I,
didn't
look
at
it
as
racial,
but
nobody
said
not
September
5
I
put
my
2005
I
put
my
signature
to
purchase
it
March
6
2008,
oh
six
I
got
a
notice
to
go
to
sheriff
sale.
Six
months
into
it
now
we
rumbled
and
we
talked,
and
everything
and
I
paid
money
no
less
than
$500
a
month
for
the
first
year,
but
got
a
TRB
agreement
to
pay
$100
a
month
and
50%
of
everything
was
wiped
off
at
the
end
of
2007.
G
They
told
me
$100,
I,
love
that,
because
that
means
I
could
never
break
it.
So
somehow
the
Department
of
Revenue,
with
this
amnesty
bill
shouldn't
say,
come
in
and
pay
half.
What
can
you
pay
to
have
this
done
within
a
year
two
years
at
the
most?
And
if
you
do
that
for
the
person
now
they
have
the
relief
to
say
I
got
an
agreement.
Maybe
I
can
go
to
the
bank
and
borrow
some
money
now
we're
doing
business
because
down
the
banks
are
alive.
Poor
people
pay
their
debts.
G
If
they
didn't,
they
would
have
been
in
their
homes
as
long
as
they
were
so
here
come
Pac
Man,
the
strong
mighty
god
of
some
kind
of
structure,
developing
system
that
just
eat
up
all
of
the
cities
and
they
don't
care
if
its
back
all
right
for
real
they
just
if
they
got
a
chance
to
get
something
cheap,
they're,
gonna
get
it
and
they'll
eat
up
everybody
in
it.
So
we're
asking
you
we
thank
Cindy
bass
as
a
Councilwoman
who
drafted
the
bill,
I
think
there's
some
things
gonna
be
put
in
there.
G
So
I
still
don't
hurt
people,
you
know
let
you
know
our
book
says
to
us:
let
the
depth
or
the
person
who's
gonna
pay.
This
debt
dictate
what
they
can
pay
long
as
they
agree
to
pay
it.
You
can
like
myself,
that's
why
I
gave
that
illustration.
They
said
$100
I
got
that
when
you
looked
at
my
record,
I
hope
you
all
will
look
at
that
paperwork.
I
gave
you
because
I
still
want
to
talk
to
you.
G
You'll
see
I've
never
paid
less
than
a
thousand
now
most
times
1800
a
month,
and
this
is
what
happened
this
you
need
three
years
to
revamp
the
Department
of
Revenue
without
talking
about
amnesty
just
to
revamp
them.
An
attorney
came
from
and
this
intimidates
our
people,
poor
people
I
seen
Crockett
over
the
Caucasians
crying
in
the
court
weren't
about
losing
their
properties.
G
The
attorney
comes
in
and
he
says
yeah
mr.
to
a
judge,
I,
don't
know
and
I
didn't
know
him
never
meddle.
Mr.
Bulow
had
$100
agreement
and
he
broke
it.
The
judge
didn't
ask
me
anything.
He
omitted
least
immediately
said
I
enter
a
decree.
You
got
90
days
to
make
an
agreement
or
go
to
sheriff.
Sale,
he's
been
put
up
on
sheriff,
says
I'm,
honest
all.
Go
man
never
talk
to
me,
but
he
lied.
I
asked
him.
Why
did
you
lie
we're
gonna
just
get
40,000
price
for
the
property.
You
either
bring
the
money.
G
G
But
that's
not
the
way
to
do
is
I
appeal
to
you
all,
not
just
to
look
at
what
happened
to
me,
but
look
at
what's
running
our
city.
I
mean
people
need
help
and
that's
what
I'm
appealing
for
all
of
you
should
talk
on
everybody
getting
in
it
to
help
the
city.
The
people
of
this
city
get
a
relief
and
don't
leave
anybody
else.
I,
don't
I,
don't
care
if
a
man
that
already
getting
a
gift
get
another
gift
long,
as
the
small
people
get
more
give
us
a
chance.
G
I'm
a
businessman
13
years
I
can't
open
my
property
because
they
kept
saying
our
old
tax
as
I
paid.
That's
wrong
and
every
time
I
go
talk
to
somebody.
They
say.
I'll
go
see
this
one
or
you've
been
here.
I've
been
in
I've,
been
going
for
100
and
over
100,
and
sometimes
since
I've
had
this
property
just
to
be
told
and
saying
thing
Oh.
Mr.
Blair
yeah
everything
you
say
you
pay.
We
got
that.
But
how
did
you
apply
it
that
I
got
so
much
debt?
G
And
this
is
what's
happening
over
and
over
and
over
again
to
people
and
it
not
just
I
got
witness
it's
not
just
blacks,
it
happens
to
many
senior
White's
and
young
people
to
Hispanics
people
of
color
and
relax.
I,
don't
see
it
as
being
partial,
but
we
need
you
all
to
be
a
team
for
us
get
out
of
to
get
out
of
this
Republican
Democrat
you
already
in
office
work
for
the
people,
I
mean,
and
when
we
talk
to
you,
listen
to
us.
A
H
A
It
has
been
moved
and
properly
seconded
that
bill
number
one:
nine
zero
186
be
reported
from
this
committee
for
favorable
recommendation
and
further
move
that
the
rules
of
counsel
be
suspended.
So
it's
verse
reading
of
this
bill
at
our
next
session
of
council.
All
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
will
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
excuse.