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The Committee on Fiscal Stability and Intergovernmental Cooperation of the Council of the City of Philadelphia will hold a Public Hearing on Wednesday, December 16, 2020, at 10:00 AM, in a remote manner using Microsoft® Teams to hear testimony on the following item:
200699 Resolution authorizing the Fiscal Stability and Intergovernmental Cooperation Committee to hold hearings examining the economic impact of the Coronavirus related restrictions on Philadelphia’s restaurants and other significantly affected businesses and to explore how these actions will impact the safety of our citizenry and the City of Philadelphia’s Five Year Financial Plan.
A
Good
after
good
morning,
I
should
say
this
hearing
is
called
to
order.
I
recognize
the
presence
of
a
quorum
of
committee
members.
Members
of
the
committee
in
attendance
today
this
morning
are
council
members,
cindy
batts,
council,
member
kendrick,
brooks
council
member
mark
squilla,
council,
member
helen
ginn,
council,
member
kenyatta,
johnson,
council
member,
katherine
gilmore,
richardson,
councilmember,
curtis
jones
and
councilmember
derek
green.
This
is
the
public
hearing
of
the
committee
on
fiscal
responsibility
and
intergovernmental
cooperation.
A
A
Due
to
the
current
public
health
emergency
city,
council
committees
are
currently
meeting
remotely
we're
using
microsoft
teams
to
make
these
remote
hearings
possible
instructions
for
how
the
public
may
view
and
offer
public
testimony
at
public
hearings
of
council
committees
are
included
in
the
public
hearing,
notices
that
are
published
in
the
daily
news,
enquirer
and
legal
intelligence
are
prior
to
the
hearings
and
can
also
be
found
on
phl
counsel,
dot
com
clerk
will
now.
Please
read
the
title
of
the
resolution
before
this
committee
today.
A
Thank
you
first,
I
want
to
thank
my
colleagues
all
of
you
for
being
here
today.
I
know
we've
all
been
working
crazy
over
time
to
try
to
respond
to
the
growing
needs
of
all
of
our
communities.
I've
seen
the
letter
writing
the
briefings,
the
impact
statements.
The
conference
calls
with
our
state
and
federal
representatives
and
I've
sat
with
all
all
of
you
in
our
council
hearings
and
all
our
goal
is
in
an
effort
to
help
our
people
and
our
businesses
get
through
this
extraordinarily
difficult
time.
A
I
want
to
say
a
special
thanks
to
my
task
force,
colleagues,
councilmember,
kenyatta,
johnson
and
council
members,
sydney
bass.
Thank
you
for
your
continued
support
to
find
solutions
for
the
struggling
industries.
We're
about
to
hear
from
today.
Just
yesterday
special
thank
you
to
councilmember
kenyatta
johnson.
We
spoke
with
senator
casey
and
our
philadelphia
congressional
delegation
to
talk
about
where
things
stand,
how
we
can
get
resources
to
hospitality,
businesses
and
their
employees
as
quickly
as
possible
and
we're
all
here
today,
because
the
hospitality
industry
has
been
decimated
by
this
pandemic.
A
When
I
talk
about
hospitality,
I'm
including
restaurants,
or
including
hotels,
arts
and
culture
and
fitness
centers,
all
of
these
businesses
are
focused
on
how
we
bring
people
together
for
a
social
experience
and
they're
all
suffering
and
on
the
verge
of
closure.
Many
have
already
closed,
which
will
have
a
long,
lasting,
very
negative
impact
on
our
people
in
our
city.
A
This
is
uncharted
territory
and,
as
our
majority
leader
actually
said
last
week
in
council,
no
one
had
a
playbook.
For
this
event,
it's
uncharted
for
all
of
us
and
we
appreciate
the
leadership
that
encourages
mass
wearing
and
safety
precautions
that
protect
lives,
but
it's
also
important
that
we
maintain
transparency
in
what
we
do
and
how
we
do
it.
A
B
For
our
first
panel,
we'll
hear
from
jim
engler
in
the
mayor's
office
and
the
following,
people
will
also
be
available
for
questions
from
members.
Dr
farley
dawn
somerville
from
the
commerce
department
rob
deboe
who's,
our
finance
director
and
michael
carroll
for.
C
Good
morning,
chairperson,
dom
and
members
of
the
committee
on
fiscal
stability
and
aaron
government
irving
governmental
cooperation,
my
name
is
jim
engler,
chief
of
staff
to
mayor
kenny,
along
with
me
to
answer
questions
our
health
commissioner,
dr
thomas
farley,
deputy
commerce,
director
don
somerville
finance,
director,
rob
de
beau
and
deputy
managing
director
for
the
office
of
transportation
infrastructure
systems
mike
carroll.
C
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
testify
on
resolution
two:
zero:
zero,
six,
nine
nine,
which
authorizes
hearings
to
discuss
the
economic
impact
of
the
chronovirus,
related
restrictions
on
philadelphia's,
restaurants
and
other
significantly
affected
businesses.
As
this
committee
knows,
the
coronavirus
pandemic
has
had
a
devastating
impact
on
the
health
of
philadelphia's
residents.
As
of
december
14th,
more
than
81
000
philadelphians
have
had
an
infection
with
the
virus
and
more
than
2100
have
died
from
their
infections.
C
Currently
more
than
920
people
are
hospitalized
in
philadelphia
with
covet
19.
for
comparison's
sake,
philadelphia's
peak
hospitalization
rate
last
spring
was
just
over
1
000
individuals,
rising
case
rates
and
hospitalizations
has
forced
the
administration
to
make
very
difficult
decisions
on
how
to
best
protect
residents
as
we
navigate
our
way
through
this
pandemic.
It
is
important
to
emphasize
that
our
priority
is,
was,
and
always
will
be,
the
health
and
safety
of
philadelphians.
C
C
Three
weeks
after
the
city
imposed
these
restrictions,
governor
wolf
imposed
substantially
similar
restrictions
across
the
commonwealth.
This
obviously
poses
great
challenges
to
restaurants
and
other
businesses.
This
fact
is
not
lost
in
our
administration,
and
that
is
why
we
began
work
in
may
to
support
businesses
by
coordinating
and
permitting
outdoor
commercial
activity.
C
Our
staff
with
the
streets
department
licenses
and
inspections,
health
department,
commerce,
department,
planning,
commission
and
otis
working
with
our
partners
here
in
city
council,
have
all
been
deeply
engaged
in
coordinating
with
businesses,
sharing
best
practices
and
exploring
innovative
solutions
to
common
issues
that
arrive
and
conducting
business
in
the
right
of
way.
We
have
participated
in
convene
numerous
conversations
and
are
preparing
this
winter
to
explore
creative
ways
to
facilitate
outdoor
dining
and
related
outdoor
commercial
activity.
C
To
date,
hundreds
of
businesses
have
been
sustained
over
the
past
several
months
through
opportunities
that
have
been
made
available
to
serve
food
at
sidewalk,
cafes,
streeters
and
through
temporary
street
closures
throughout
the
city.
These
opportunities,
as
well
as
others,
have
been
made
at
no
cost
of
businesses,
and
thanks
to
recent
legislation,
have
been
extended
through
at
least
december
31
2021,
recognizing
that
our
businesses
needs
extend
beyond
facilitating
alternate
ways
of
operating.
The
administration
has
also
provided
financial
assistance
as
soon
as
the
initial
rounds
of
business
closures
took
effect.
C
In
march,
the
city
announced
a
13
million
dollar
small
business
relief
fund
which
which
supported
over
two
thousand
small
businesses,
while
the
need
was
far
greater
than
the
amount
available.
These
funds
served
as
a
critical
lifeline,
as
we
waited
for
the
federal
government
to
provide
more
robust
aid.
The
payroll
protection
program
loans
infused
billions
of
dollars
into
our
region,
although
we
know
that
many
small
and
minority-owned
businesses
were
not
able
to
access
these
loans
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
C
We
are
currently
evaluating
how
to
best
distribute
these
funds
to
businesses
in
need.
Philadelphia.
Small
businesses
are
crucial
to
the
health
and
well-being
of
our
communities,
providing
tens
of
thousands
of
jobs
for
residents,
along
with
countless
goods
and
services,
we're
proud
to
commit
more
funding
for
much-needed
relief
to
struggling
small
businesses.
Yet,
even
with
these
various
rounds
of
financial
assistance,
local
small
businesses
are
still
in
overwhelming
need
of
more
support,
estimated
at
more
than
300
million
dollars.
C
Finally,
the
pandemic
has
had
a
devastating
impact
on
the
city
and
school
district's
finances
before
the
pandemic
hit.
The
city
had
built
up
its
largest
ever
fund
balance
of
438
million
dollars,
and
it
made
its
first
ever
contribution
to
our
rainy
day
fund.
Now
our
projected
fund
balance
stands
at
less
than
23
million
dollars.
Even
after
we
took
a
series
of
budget
balancing
actions
in
response
to
a
loss
of
750
million
dollars
in
revenue
through
the
end
of
fiscal
year,
21.
C
with
the
pandemics
continued
spread,
even
with
that
narrow
fund,
even
that
narrow
fund
balance
is
now
threatened.
If
revenue
for
the
remainder
of
the
fiscal
year
is
as
weak
as
it
was
during
the
first
quarter,
we
could
see
further
revenue
declines
of
between
70
million
dollars
and
100
million
dollars,
which
would
exceed
our
fund
balance,
necessitating
additional
cuts
to
restore
balance.
C
As
for
the
school
district,
its
latest
quarterly
report
projected
that
its
20
million
its
fy
21
tax
revenues
would
be
over
70
million
dollars
lower
than
they
were
in
fiscal
year.
19.,
the
largest
productive
deductions
were
26
million
dollars
in
the
use
and
occupancy
tax
and
23
million
dollars
in
the
liquor
tax.
Both
of
these
taxes
are
likely
to
see
further
reductions
if
the
pandemic
surge
is
not
abated.
C
Make
no
mistake,
while
this
testimony
paints
an
unfortunate
and
bleak
financial
picture
for
businesses,
the
city
and
the
school
district,
it
would
undoubtedly
be
much
worse.
Have
we
not
taken
the
steps
we
did
to
mitigate
the
spread
of
this
deadly
virus?
We
are
hopeful
that,
with
the
moderate
modest
restrictions
temporarily
reimposed
first
by
the
city
and
now
statewide
by
the
governor
vaccines
becoming
available
and
a
new
incoming
administration
in
washington,
we
will
see
brighter
days
ahead.
A
You,
mr
angler,
is
there
another
testimony
from
the
mayor's
legislative
director
or
they're
just
here
for
questions
the
rest
of
our.
C
A
Okay,
so
I
have
a
few
questions
and
then
I
turned
over
to
some
of
my
colleagues.
There
was
an
article
this
morning.
I
don't
know
if
you
saw
this
in
governing,
I
guess
you'll
get
that
email,
it's
kind
of
irrelevant,
though
it
was
also
by
the
way,
an
editorial
in
today's
inquirer
by
john
longacre
that
everyone
should
read
he's
the
I
think,
president
of
the
pennsylvania
restaurant
lodging
association,
but
the
article
this
morning,
I
think,
is
very
relevant.
I'm
just
going
to
share
some
details
of
it
and
go
into
some
questions.
A
It
said
that
the
central
business
districts
of
cities
across
the
united
states
have
been
particularly
hard
hit
by
the
virus
and
the
two
main
activity:
generators,
office,
employment
and
the
tourism
events.
Hospitality
sector
have
basically
gone
into
what
they're
calling
a
deep
freeze,
that's
clear
in
philadelphia,
because
ninety
percent
of
our
offices
are
unoccupied
economic
economist.
Richard
florida
also
suggested
that
central
business
districts
could
see
a
20
to
30
percent
hit
on
their
employment
base
due
to
remote
work.
A
The
shift
towards
remote
work
will
reduce
the
level
of
city
suburb
cohesion
that
comes
from
workers
commuting
from
one
place
to
the
other.
Suburban
residents
who
are
employed
downtown
have
a
real
physical
connection
to
the
city,
keep
in
mind.
It
was
our
41
of
our
residents
and
the
suburbs.
The
suburban
residents
commute
to
jobs
in
the
city
when
they're
in
the
city.
They
have
a
connection
to
the
city
by
spending
40
hours
a
week
working
here
so
they're
in
the
city
engaged
in
the
city
and
not
being
here,
they
hurt
our
whole
hospitality
sector.
A
The
other
piece
they
pointed
out,
which
I
I
found
kind
of
interesting,
is
that
one
of
the
biggest
concerns
of
the
suburbanites
is
whether
it's
reality
or
perception,
the
feeling
of
being
safe
safety.
Nothing
makes
the
suburbanites
want
to
avoid
coming
into
the
city
more
than
the
perception
again
or
reality
of
violent
crime.
A
The
rise
of
remote
work
will
make
competition
for
talent
in
our
city
even
more
difficult.
This
will
allow
workers
to
live
where
they
choose,
rather
than
where
the
jobs
used
to
be
physically
located.
In
fact,
there
are
some
cities
and
towns
across
the
country
that
are
now
called
zoom
towns,
because
people
can
go
there
and
live
and
work
remotely
and
sustaining
this
attractiveness
is
a
regional
challenge
I
believe
for
philadelphia.
A
So
the
question
is
suburban
and
city
leaders.
We
need
to
find
a
way
together
to
connect
a
time
when
the
new
forces
are
pulling
us
apart.
So
my
question,
jim,
is:
what
are
we
doing
as
a
city
to
answer
these
issues
and
concerns
of
working
with
our
suburbs
and
working
together.
C
Sure
so
I
think
you
raised
a
number
of
issues
there.
There
are
just
to
your
to
your
last
point
around
discussions
with
our
suburban
colleagues.
I
have
a
three
times
a
week
call
with
the
county
commissioners
of
surrounding
counties
where
we
discuss
our
response
to
the
covenant
pandemic
and
our
our
shared
responsibility
to
guide
our
region
through
through
these
difficult
times.
C
We
work
in
collaboration
I'll,
let
don
john
somerville
in
the
commerce
department
talk
about
our
coordination
with
organizations
like
pidc
and
the
center
city
district,
about
how
we
respond
to
office-based
businesses
and
their
desire
to
either
relocate
or
relocate
some
of
their
employees
or
downsize,
or
how
we
can
otherwise
support
their
continued
operations
in
the
city,
and
I
think
there
was
a
long
hearing
earlier
this
week
on
monday.
That
discussed
the
city's
shared
responsibility
to
respond
to
our
gun,
violence
epidemic
and
our
violence.
C
Our
violence
in
general-
and
I
think
you
heard
some
testimony
from
the
police
commissioner,
from
the
district
attorney
and
other
partners
as
to
how
we
are
attempting
to
respond
to
that
crisis.
But
I'll.
Let
the
deputy
commerce
director
talk
about
some
of
the
specific
engagement
with
those
those
entities.
D
Good
morning,
councilmember
dom
and
the
rest
of
the
council
body,
I'm
dawn,
somerville,
deputy
commerce,
director
for
business
development
here
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
as
jim
engler
just
mentioned,
the
commerce
department
continues
our
outreach
efforts
with
our
leadership
and
ceos
and
c-suite.
We
are
currently
in
the
middle
of
implementing
strategy
to
talk
about
what
their
needs
are.
D
What
the
retention
efforts
look
like
for
the
city,
whether
or
not
the
businesses
are,
will
continue
to
work
virtually.
I
am
encouraged
because
of
what
we're
now
seeing
with
the
vaccine
that
is
now
coming
out.
A
lot
of
the
feedback
that
we
are
getting
from
the
business
community
is
a
wait
and
see
to
come
back
into
the
offices
to
hurt,
although
zoom,
zoom,
land
and
soon
city
councilman,
dom,
as
you
mentioned,
are
reality,
but
people
desire
and
need
in
situations
where
they
can
collaborate,
talk
and
brainstorm.
D
D
D
D
All
right,
many
of
those
leases
have
been
signed
for
multi-year
lease
moving
forward.
I
can
also
tell
you
the
commerce
department
is
in
attraction
efforts
with
new
business
looking
to
come
into
the
city.
Business
is
still
happening,
but
to
your
point,
councilman
dam.
We
are
in
un
president
time
challenging
times
with
the
pandemic,
and
in
order
for
us
to
move
forward,
we
have
to
be
able
to
control
the
spread
of
the
virus.
D
A
Thank
you.
I
just
have
two
quick
comments
for
you
dawn.
One
is
the
cost
of
opening
a
new
business,
which
I
said
I
think
a
week
or
two
ago
and
councilman
derek
green's.
Finance
committee
is
far
greater
than
supporting
an
existing
one
and
the
existing
ones.
Jobs
have
so
many
more
jobs
that
our
focus
right
now
has
to
be
on
helping
these
existing
businesses
service.
It
is
crucial
and
then
in
the
big
picture,
big
picture-
and
I
spoke
to
the
new
commerce
director
about
this.
A
We
should
put
a
lot
of
focus
into
the
life
sciences,
that
is,
the
future
5
10
15
20
years
out
for
philadelphia-
and
you
know
we
all
like
to
hear
good
news,
and
last
week
we
honored
two
of
the
doctors
at
university
of
penn,
who
developed
the
ability
for
these
drug
companies
to
come
up
with
a
vaccine
that
happened
at
penn,
their
development,
okay,
that
allowed
those
drug
companies
which
is
pretty
amazing,
and
that
was
in
cell
therapy
and
other
things.
They're
doing
so,
you
know
the
from
an
economic
standpoint.
A
I
don't
know
if
you're
aware
of
this,
but
the
economic
job
multiplier
of
cell
therapy
is
like
five
to
one
so
for
every
job
we
create
in
cell
therapy,
there's
five
more
trickle-down
jobs,
which
is
huge
for
the
city,
so
I
know
we're
all
aware
of
that,
but
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
testimony.
Jim
angler,
I'm
sure
my
colleagues
are
gonna,
have
some
questions
before
we
move
on.
I
do
want
to
recognize
councilman
david
o
as
being
present.
A
Thank
you
very
much
chairman.
Thank
you
and
I
have
a
question
a
couple
questions.
First,
one
is
for
dr
farley,
dr
farley.
First
thanks
for
everything,
you've
done
and
your
department's
doing
right
now.
This
is
unprecedented
and
we
all
appreciate
everything.
You're
doing
and
you're,
probably
working
24
hours
a
day,
seven
days
a
week
and
just
really
appreciate
everything.
You're
doing
we're,
hearing
a
lot
of
information
about
contact,
tracing
and
our
process
for
trying
to
understand
where
or
how
folks
are
contracting
this
virus.
H
Yeah,
thank
you
councilmember,
so
our
contact
tracing
system
got
in
place
around
june
of
this
year,
when
case
rates
were
compared
to
now
very
very
low.
We
were
having
between
100
and
200
cases
per
day
and
the
process
for
those
people
who
are
not
familiar
with
it
is.
When
we
hear
of
a
case,
we
have
a
staff
person,
call
that
person
find
out.
H
Who
they
might
have
a
discussion
with
them
to
find
out
who
they
might
have
exposed?
Therefore,
who
those
contacts
are
who
are
high
risk
for
themselves
about
the
infection?
And
then
they
try
to
find
the
phone
numbers
of
those
people
who
they
might
have
exposed,
refer
them
as
contacts
and
then
either
that
person
or
another
staff
person
would
call
those
contacts
and
say
you
may
have
been
exposed
and
we
would
ask
you
to
go
and
quarantine
for
14
days
that
we
hired
a
large
number
of
staff
to
do
that.
H
This
virus
changed
its
behavior
with
the
changing
seasons,
as
other
respiratory
viruses
did
so
now
we're
getting
close
to
a
thousand
cases
a
day,
and
so
we
do
not
have
the
staff
to
call
even
a
you
know
a
minor
fraction
of
those
people.
So
we
still
do
some
calling
for
contact
tracing,
but
for
the
most
part,
the
contact
facing
is
not
taking
place
just
given
the
sheer
numbers
of
people
involved.
H
As
far
as
how
we
use
that
information
again,
the
the
primary
purpose
of
this
is
to
identify
the
contacts
so
that
we
can
stop
the
chain
of
spread.
The
purpose
for
this
is
not
the
primary
purpose
anyways
not
to
try
to
understand
how
the
person
who
is
infected
got
infected.
That
would
be
a
different
sort
of
study,
not
an
easy
study
to
do.
H
We
do
get
qualitative
information,
anecdotal
information
from
those
interviews
that
gives
us
some
indication
for
where
that
person
might
have
been
infected,
for
example,
we'll
say
who
do
you
think
you
might
have
gotten
this
from
and
often
they'll
say
you
know?
Well,
I
think
I
got
it
from
a
household
member
of
mine
who
was
sick
three
days
earlier.
H
That's
the
case.
That's
probably
true
about
half
the
people,
though,
that
we
talked
to
have
no
idea
where
they
got
it
from,
and
so
it's
a
much
more
difficult
step
to
taking
to
to
figure
out
where
a
lot
of
people
in
philadelphia
are
getting
infected.
So
we
do
take
that
qualitative,
anecdotal
information
into
account
and
trying
to
understand
where
the
virus
is
spreading.
H
Now
that's,
for
example,
we
do
get
lots
of
comments
about
social
gatherings
and
that's
why
we've
had
lots
of
communications
around
small
social
gatherings,
but
we
also
take
into
account
studies
that
are
done
more
by
researchers
and
other
people
in
other
areas.
When
we
think
about
what
sort
of
policies
and
restrictions
we
want
to
put
in
place
to
try
to
limit
the
spread
of
this.
H
So,
for
example,
you
know
the
restaurants
have
been
demonstrated
through
a
number
of
studies
to
be
very
high-risk
settings
for
spread,
and
it's
not
a
surprise.
Restaurants
are
where
people
get
together
close
to
each
other
without
wearing
masks,
and
that
information
comes
from
other
sources.
We
do
get
anecdotes
on
that,
but
it's
you
know
we
use
the
other
sources
more.
I
would
say
for
our
decision
making
process
around
future
policies.
A
Okay,
you
know
I
will
say
that
there
was
a
study
from
new
york
just
put
on
the
table.
That
said
that,
I
think
restaurant
infections
were
1.4.
I'm
sure
you're
gonna
hear
some
of
these
statistics
from
the
people
testifying
today.
A
But
let
me
ask
you
this
other
question,
dr
forley
and
we've
heard
from
folks
in
the
hospitality
work
group
and
when
I
say
hospitality
again,
I'm
including
arts
and
culture,
restaurants,
fitness
centers,
hotels
and
then,
and
some
of
them
feel
like
they've,
been
targeted
and
made
to
feel
like
the
villains,
while
others
feel
like
they
don't
have
someone
to
talk
with
about
the
disparities
in
the
rules,
and
I
know
you
have
a
few
small
groups
that
you've
talked
with,
but
the
business
leaders
here
today
that
are
in
in
this
session
today
are
from
restaurants,
fitness
centers
arts
and
culture
and
hotel
industries,
and
many
haven't
felt
like
they've
had
a
seat
at
the
table.
A
A
A
Are
for
how
we
improve
business
relations
for
those
hit
hardest
by
this
pandemic
and
these
rules,
and
how
do
we
have
a
better
dialogue
with
them
going
forward,
and
I
think
the
goal
here
is
that
everyone
wants
to
operate
safely.
There
are
ways
to
do
that
and
I
think
you're
going
to
hear
those
today.
So
I'm
curious
to
hear
what
your
thoughts
are
on,
trying
to
bring
back
this
economy
in
a
smart
way
in
a
healthy
way
adhering
to
the
health
guidelines.
A
But
not
you
know.
We
have
some
businesses
you're
going
to
hear
this
today,
they've
been
in
business
30
40
years,
they're,
shutting
their
doors
they're
closed,
they've
lost
everything.
They've
worked
for
for
30
40
years.
That
is
impactful,
so
share
with
us.
How
do
you
think
we
can
improve
this,
and
what
can
we
do
going
forward.
H
You
know
first,
let
me
say
I
am
very
sympathetic
to
the
businesses
that
have
been
hit
hard
by
this,
and
I
do
recognize
that
they've
been
hit
hard
by
this,
and
I
recognize
they've
been
hit
hard
by
this
through
no
fault
of
their
own.
They
didn't
invent
the
virus,
they
didn't
invent
the
situation
where
these
people,
you
know
the
virus,
tends
to
spread
it's
just
the
nature
of
the
virus,
and
I
do
recognize
it's
been
very,
very
tough.
H
H
Minimal
still
is
a
could
be
a
devastating
impact
for
some
quarters,
so
I
know
that
that's
that's,
very
tough
and
and
individual
businesses
will
say
it's
not
us.
It's
not.
You
know.
I
did
all
these
things
and
it
I
know
it
didn't.
There
was
no
spread
in
my
particular
business
and
many
of
them
most
of
them
are
maybe
right
in
that,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
that
entire
sector
is
safe.
H
We
have
to
the
health
department
go
with
the
best
evidence
we
have
and
the
best
judgment
we
have
about
where
we
can
limit
the
spread
of
that.
H
Whatever
policy
we
have
people
who
are
just
on
the
restricted
side
of
the
line
can
point
to
something
that
is
just
on
the
unrestricted
side
of
the
line
and
say
this
doesn't
seem
right
to
me.
So
for
the
example
you
gave,
I
can
understand
why
people
would
be
upset
about
that.
You
can
understand
why
health
care
facilities
ought
to
be
open
because
people
are
sick,
then
they
need
to
be
able
to
get
health
care,
but
gym
facilities
are
risky,
so
it
makes
sense
for
them
to
not
be
open.
H
So
you
know,
is
a
physical
therapy
setting.
Is
that
really
a
healthcare,
or
is
that
a
gym?
And
that's
that's
one
of
those
is
right
just
on
one
side
of
the
line
versus
just
the
other.
I
can
understand
why
people
have
said,
but
you
do
have
to
understand
that,
no
matter
where
we
draw
the
line
they're
going
to
be
people
unhappy
about
exactly
where
that
line
is
drawn.
As
far
as
how
we
engage
in
the
future,
you
know
I've
gotten,
as
you
might
imagine
many
emails
from
all
sorts
of
quarters
across
the
city.
H
You
know
with
their
opinions
and
their
suggestions
I
said,
is
I'm
happy
to
engage
with
these
industries
to
talk
about
how
we
make
things
more
safely?
I
frankly,
though,
don't
have
the
time
to
respond
to
each
individual
email,
and
I
don't
have
the
time
to
respond
to
each
individual
business.
If
we
can
come
up
with
a
structured
way
to
have
a
conversation,
I
would
participate
in
that.
I
would
suggest
that
that
be
organized
through
the
commerce
department,
because
they
have
their
relationships
and
that
we're
only
one
piece
of
that
conversation.
H
You
know
financial
support,
I
think,
is
extremely
important.
I
am
not
an
expert
in
the
sort
of
financial
support
for
these
businesses
and
what
can
be
done
so
I
need
to
have
them
involved
in
that,
but
so
we
are
are
happy
to
engage
with
these
groups
as
organized
groups
to
see
how
we
can
proceed
in
a
way,
that's
as
safe
as
possible,
while
also
you
know,
supporting
businesses
economically
as
much
as
possible.
C
And
if
I
could
jump
in
quickly,
council
member,
so
that
organized
engagement
between
the
commerce
department
and
the
various
sectors
of
businesses
impacted
by
these
latest
restrictions
is
ongoing.
It's
been
happening
to
your
point
about
our
meetings
with
several
of
the
folks
that
are
scheduled
to
testify
today,
as
well
as
other
impacted
businesses.
That
engagement
will
be
ongoing
over
the
next
several
weeks,
months
and
years
as
we
as
we
all
try
and
recover
safely
and
adequately
from
from
the
impact
of
the
virus,
so
that
engagement
has
started.
C
A
D
D
We
are
aware
that
we
just
had
initial
meeting
with
the
gyms.
I
want
to
say
a
week
ago.
I'm
sure
that
will
take
place
as
well
as
we
continue
to
move
forward.
A
Okay,
you
know.
Last
night
I
actually
read
the
ten
testimonies
from
all
the
fitness
centers
that
were
submitted.
I
read
through
each
one
of
them
and
I
did
a
lot.
Not
all
of
them
gave
me
information,
but
nine
out
of
the
ten
did
and
they
claimed
there
were
sixteen
thousand
two
200
visits
to
the
their
collective
gym.
16
200
visits
three
cases
of
coronavirus.
A
Now,
that's
their
statistics
that
they
share
with
me.
I
have
no
way
of
verifying
that,
but
that
kind
of
information
to
me
means
that
many
of
these
people
are
probably
practicing
in
a
very
safe
way
and
it
might
be
bad
actors.
We
all
know
they're,
always
bad
actors,
but
I
think
that
also
applies
to
the
restaurants.
I
think
most
of
the
restaurants
today
are
doing
a
phenomenal
job.
A
I
was
like
really
proud
of
the
efforts
they
did
as
far
as
health
and
safety
standards
you're
going
to
hear
that
today
from
them,
but
it
might
be
again
a
few
bad
actors
and
I
guess
we
shouldn't
just
punish
everyone
for
the
small
amount
of
bad
actors,
and
that's
really
something
that
I
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
do.
Let
me
go
to
the
next
question,
it's
from
for
someone
from
otis
this
question
and
it's
through
the
implementation
of
outdoor
dining
we've
seen
and
you're
going
to
hear
today.
A
Can
you
give
us
some
information
about
how
you're
working
to
enforce,
consistently
or
explain
what,
when
variations,
make
sense
actually
mike
carroll
good
morning
good
morning,
by
the
way?
Mr
carroll,
let
me
just
say
this:
thank
you
for
everything.
You're
doing
you've
been
extremely
cooperative
and
we
appreciate
everything
you're
doing
so.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
This
is
again
mike
carol,
deputy.
I
Managing
director
for
office
of
transportation,
infrastructure
and
sustainability,
I
think
that
you
know
people's
perceptions
about
the
enforcement
are
somewhat
informed
by
the
fact
that
we
are
stretched
in
many
respects.
You
know
we're
trying
to
coordinate
as
best
as
possible,
not
just
you
know,
within
departments,
but
across
departments,
so
streets
licenses.
Inspection.
Health
department
are
all
involved
in
some
form
of
enforcement,
of
different
sets
of
rules
which
each
is
sort
of
assigned
and
authorized
by
code
to
to
address
individually.
I
But
you
know
when
it
comes
to
the
question
of
getting
warnings
or
you
know
getting
citations
for
the
most
part.
You
know
what
we're
trying
to
encourage
the
inspectors
to
do
is
to
work
with
people
to
rectify
situations,
and
even
if
you
know,
there's
a
notice
of
violation,
the
intention
is
not
to
you
know,
punish
someone
but
to
kind
of
reinforce
the
message
and
then
identify
the
corrective
actions.
I
So
often
what
what
happens
is
that
the
warning
is
coming
first
and
it's
only
after
a
warning
or
a
conversation
which
may
be
with
staff
and
not
even
the
manager.
It's
sort
of
happening
in
the
field
that
second
visit
or
third
visit
is
resulting
in
some
form
of
citation
and
sometimes
that's
contributing
to
what
appears
to
be
disparities.
I
There
is
a
another
dimension
of
this
that
I
want
to
recognize
as
well,
and
we
just
did
some
analysis
on
this
question
and
it
has
to
do
with
you
know
the
geographies
of
where
enforcements
are
taking
place
and
I
think
there's
some
perceptions.
People
have
in
outlying
neighborhoods
that
certain
areas
are
being
targeted
more
so
than
other
areas
where
it
appears,
at
least
from
a
distance
that
there's
more,
you
know
more
leniency,
or
you
know,
there's
sort
of
like
a
lack
of
attention
to
situations.
I
When
we
took
a
look
at
this
and
we
sort
of
map
things
out,
it
seems
like
that.
Disparity
is
more
a
function
of
where
the
activity
is.
So
you
know,
if
you
have
one
location
which
is
far
out
from
us,
say:
center
city,
you
know,
and
it's
really
the
only
operation
that's
going
on
out
there
and
we
do
find
a
violation
in
that
location,
and
we
do
cite
them
it's
sort
of
like
we
hit
a
hundred
percent.
I
You
know
we
hit
a
hundred
percent
of
operations
in
that
neighborhood
and
it
could
just
be
one
or
two,
whereas
you
know
we've
we've
seen
you
know,
there's
clusters
of
restaurants,
there's
sort
of
corridors
that
are
set
up
in
center
city
and
we
may
find
you
know
five
or
six
of
those
gets
cited,
but
because
it's
sort
of
diluted
by
other
actors
who
are
not
necessarily
involved
in
the
same
issues
and
sometimes
you
know,
there's
a
little
less
noise
that
gets
made.
I
Maybe
at
the
end
of
the
day
it
gives
that
appearance.
But
so
far
we
have
not
seen
we'll
keep
looking,
but
we
have
not
seen
systematic
disparities
in
terms
of
the
geography
of
where
enforcement
is
taking
place.
But
having
said
all
that
I
do
want
to
recognize,
the
system
is
still
somewhat
imperfect:
we're
placing
a
pretty
heavy
burden
on
individual
inspectors
to
use
their
their
best
discretion
to
figure
out
how
to
address
situations.
I
We've
tried
to
reflect
on
what
we've
learned
and
we'll
continue
to
do
so
and
try
and
improve
the
guidance
we
give
inspectors
and
take
all
the
feedback
we
can
get
and
again
do
the
best
we
can
to
make
sure
or
is
even
handed-
and
you
know,
we're
kind
of
keeping
the
main
purpose
in
goal
in
mind,
which
is
to
keep
people
safe
and
not
to
punish
businesses.
A
Thank
you
and
I
appreciate
that
it
sounds
to
me
like
you're,
trying
to
use
more
honey
than
vinegar
here.
So
that's
always
a
good
thing,
because
these
businesses,
basically
are
you
know,
they're
really
struggling.
You
know.
Let
me
just
pass
this
I'm
going
to
have
another
question
for
dr
farlow
before
I
get
to
that
question.
I
just
want
to
share
with
you
the
employment
numbers
in
the
country
right
now.
I
think
what
hasn't
missed
a
beat
are
the
employment
numbers
for
the
legal
world
for
the
construction,
world,
finance
and
insurance.
A
Their
employment
numbers
are
the
same
as
last
year,
but
what
has
been
affected?
The
most
is
the
group
of
people.
Basically,
in
this
hearing
today,
the
hospitality
industry,
whether
it's
restaurants,
fitness
hotels,
hotels,
are
about
50
to
75
percent.
Restaurants
are
off
over
50
at
this
point.
With
this
latest
shutdown,
fitness
centers
are
basically
shut
down
and
they're.
Those
are
the
areas
that
are
really
getting
crushed.
A
So,
looking
at
this
and
saying
you
know
what
I
see
that
sun
coming
up,
that's
the
vaccine.
So,
dr
farley,
we
have
a
vaccine,
that's
being
released
throughout
the
country
and
it
sounds
like
it'll
be
a
slow
release.
Can
you
give
us
an
idea
what
we
can
expect
over
the
next
few
weeks
and
what
give
us
the
program
like
in
the
next
month?
How
many
philadelphians
you
think
we
could
get
vaccinated
in
the
next
two
months,
the
next
three
months
next
six
months?
A
H
First,
I
agree
with
you
that
the
vaccine
is
really
a
game
changer.
Here
it's
going
to
make
a
huge
difference
and
I'm
very
exciting
about
excited
about
its
arrival.
H
I
really
wish
I
could
give
you
a
schedule
about
how
many
doses
we're
going
to
get
per
week
or
per
month,
and
then
at
what
point
we
will
have
vaccinated
enough
people
to
say
the
virus
is
no
longer
a
problem,
but
we
just
don't
have
that
information.
Even
you
know.
Yesterday
at
the
press
conference
I
quoted
a
number
that
we
were
scheduled
to
get
27
000
doses
of
the
there
in
a
vaccine
next
week.
H
This
morning
we
told
maybe
well
maybe
it
won't
be
that
amount,
so
it's
very
unpredictable
how
many
doses
we're
going
to
get
each
week.
You
know
I
can
only
say
it's
going
to
be
months
before
we
have.
You
know
a
lot
of
the
the
city
vaccinated
just
because
the
rate
they're
producing
it
it'll
be
faster.
If
there
are
more
vaccines
that
are
approved
by
the
fda,
there
are
more
vaccines
that
are
in
the
final
phase
of
trials.
H
Overall,
I
can
say
things
are
going
to
start
getting
better
in
january
and
I
think
they
should
continue
to
get
better
for
not
just
because
of
the
vaccine,
but
also
because
this
is
a
respiratory
virus.
That's
behaving
like
other
respiratory
viruses,
they
tend
to
get
be
at
their
worst
in
january
and
get
better
from
there,
and
so
we're
gonna
have
two
things
operating
in
our
favor
after
january.
H
I
can't
tell
you
when,
though,
it's
gonna
be,
you
know,
hit
the
peak.
Maybe
we've
already
hit
the
peak,
or
maybe
the
peak
is
going
to
be
a
month
from
now
it's
going
to
definitely
be
getting
better
in
2021,
and
I
just
wish
I
could
give
you
better
timing.
A
Well,
thank
you
look
and
if
there's
anything
this
a
legislative
body
can
do
to
help
you
in
that
area.
I
know
every
one
of
my
colleagues
that
I
would
give
you
110
percent,
because
this
is
really.
This
is
the
hope,
especially
for
this
hospitality
industry.
We
need
that
vaccine
desperately
to
come
into
philadelphia.
F
Thank
you
chairman,
and
I
appreciate
you
staying
focused
on
the
small
business
community,
which
are
the
driver
for
employment
in
neighborhoods
and
texas,
for
the
city
of
philadelphia
to
provide
services.
So
thank
you
for
this
hearing.
F
F
They
did
a
walking
tour
on
main
street
in
manila,
and
that
was
helpful
in
in
regard
to
a
encouraging
the
businesses
there
to
hang
in
there
to
power
through
push
through
this
pandemic,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
appreciated
about
the
walking
tour
with
the
new
commerce
director,
michael
rashid,
was
that
they
promised
not
to
do
harm.
F
F
They
offered
instructive
comments
on
how
to
do
it,
but
the
purpose
also
was
to
look
at
outdoor
dining,
which
has
been
one
of
the
saving
grace
graces
of
main
street
and
many
other
commercial
carters
around
the
city
and
to
create
mr
chairman
uniformity,
predictability
about
what
is
acceptable
and
what
is
not
in
our
thoroughfares
roadways
walkways
throughout
the
city.
F
Many
of
these
small
businesses
are
investing
limited
capital
that
they
still
have
and
if
we're
going
to
be
open
one
week
shut
down
one
week,
at
least
if
we
continue
to
have
outdoor
dining
structural
improvements
where
they
can
place
them
and
that
predictability
is
essential
to
their
survival,
because
many
of
them
are
going
to
opt
to
not
open
not
to
continue
to
fight
and
wait
until
hopefully,
this
pandemic
passes
over.
So
with
that
constructive
comment
to
the
departments,
mr
angler,
thank
you
for
allowing
those
departments
to
come
up
there,
and,
hopefully
god
willing.
F
F
C
D
Thank
you
good
morning,
councilman
jones.
How
are
you
I'm
fine?
I
would
I
the
name
escapes
me
right
now,
but
I
will
get
the
name
back
to
you.
There
was
an
introduction
made
to
the
pennsylvania
restaurant
lodging
association
of
a
individual
company,
a
startup
company
who
started
in
atlanta,
and
I
also
believe
they've
done
some
things
in
texas,
as
well
as
they
created
space
similar
to
what
you're.
Speaking
of
that,
it
was
a
conversion
if
you
were
tired
of
working
at
home
because
of
your
partner.
D
Whatever
the
circumstances
were,
you
were
set
up
to
go
work
in
a
hotel
space.
Basically
you
would,
it
would
be
a
assigned
space.
You
would
operate
in
a
space
during
the
day
and
the
hotel,
according
to
how
many
people
signed
up,
would
bring
staff
then,
and
you
were
able
to
have
lunch
or
dinner
or
set
up
meetings
and
zoom
meetings
from
that
location.
D
There
has
not
been
a
broader
conversation
with
the
hotel
association
regarding
this,
but
it
is
something
that
should
be
entertained
and
thought
about,
but
I
will
get
you
the
name
of
the
company
that
we
initially
spoke
to
because
they
wanted
introductions
into
the
philadelphia
market
to
do
just
that.
F
Well,
I
think
when
we
look
at
shared
space,
what's
the
one
down
by
the
clothespin
building,
there
is
a
on
a
third
or
so
floor.
There
is
a
shared
space
operation
that
works
well
and
a
hotel
is
uniquely
set
up
to
be
able
to
convert
to
that
in
a
short
amount
of
time.
F
So
something
that
I
would
like
to
see
promoted
to
host
hotel
space
is
there
thought
given-
and
I
know,
there's
a
difficult
balancing
act
between
tax,
amnesty
and
keeping
the
the
services
moving
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
but
you
you,
you
and
o
taxes
and
things
like
that,
where
there's
been
a
seismic
shift
in
both
restaurants,
commercial
spaces,
that
they
really
aren't
using
them?
Is
there
a
formula
amnesty
program
being
developed
to
be
a
once
one,
one
time
only
lifeline
for
some
of
these
businesses.
C
Yes
councilman,
so
we
announced
some
changes
to
the
application
of
use
documentary
taxes
for
impacted
businesses,
specifically
restaurants,
I'll.
Let
the
finance
director
talk
about
that
in
in
detail.
J
Yep,
so
we
announced
a
couple
weeks
ago
that
we
would
allow
restaurants
to
essentially
emit
from
their
calculation
of
the
space
they're
using
their
indoor
space,
because
you
know
we
were
saying
that
that
couldn't
be
used.
So
we
set
that
up
just
for
this
period
and
that
is
in
place
through
the
through
january
1st,
when
the
restrictions
are
scheduled
to
end
and
then
we'll
have
to
re-examine
that
if
the
restrictions
are
extended.
F
Finally,
is
there
going
to
be
god
willing?
The
biden
administration
will
send
some
relief
not
only
to
individuals
that
are
struggling
but
to
businesses
minority,
and
I
want
to
thank
again
pidc
and
commerce
department
for
working
diligently,
not
just
downtown,
but
in
neighborhoods
and
commercial
corridors
to
to
assist.
F
But
it
there
needs
to
be
some
focus
given
to
a
insurances
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
in
urban
areas,
in
high
impact
areas
and,
quite
frankly,
risky
areas,
and
what
we
found
was
a
lot
of
people
couldn't
take
advantage
of
it
because
they
were
under
insured
and
they
took
the
bare
minimum
insurance
and
they
were
covenants
in.
Those
policies
that
did
not
include
pandemics
did
not
include
social
unrest
and
businesses
that
were
interrupted
by
them
by
those
two
things.
F
So
the
insurance
industry
makes
a
lot
of
money
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
in
spite
of
its
risk,
and
there
should
be
a
pooled
wrist
assignment,
especially
for
small
intercity
businesses.
F
F
Because
we
haven't
seen
the
the
worst
of
the
wave
of
financial
problems
that
some
of
these
businesses
are
going
to
have
when
they
get
their
new
premiums
in
order
to
be
able
to
operate
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
So
I'd
like
to
get
ahead
of
that
curve
to
make
sure
that
someone
advocating
on
behalf
of
small
businesses
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
does
just
that.
C
Thank
you,
councilman
I'll,
defer
to
again
to
dawn,
if
there's
been
any
ongoing
discussions
with
the
commerce
department
with
that,
but
I
think
again
from
the
administration's
overall
perspective,
we're
we're
happy
to
work
with
businesses
work
with
the
state
insurance
department,
the
general
assembly.
If
there
needs
to
be
legislative
changes
as
well.
D
No
and
I
I'm
in
agreement
with
angler
there,
there
is
the
need
for
a
broader
conversation
around
that
councilman
member
jones,
as
commerce
department
is
working.
We
have
heard
about
those
horror
stories,
basically
speak
primarily
in
some
of
our
inner
neighborhoods,
not
in
the
central
business
core,
where
the
insurance
that
was
in
place
either
they
didn't
read
the
fine
print
or
the
information
wasn't
communicated
to
them.
D
What
was
going
to
be
covered,
and
what
wasn't
that
is
ongoing
discussion
as
well
internally,
is
how
we
make
sure
that
our
small
businesses
are
building
to
a
capacity
and
understanding
financial
responsibility,
as
it
relates
to
their
operations,
as
it
relates
to
a
crisis,
and
many
of
our
businesses
were
just
a
crisis
away,
and
here
we
are
in
a
pandemic
and
understanding
that
some
of
them
will
not
survive.
So,
yes,
these
are
all
things
that
are
in
discussion
and
for
consideration.
F
Finally,
mr
chairman,
during
the
uprisings
and
civil
unrest,
some
of
the
peaceful
protests
turned
into
looting
and
I
would
like
to
encourage
the
city
of
philadelphia,
particularly
the
commerce
department,
to
come
up
with
a
early
warning
system
almost
like
an
amber
alert
in
respect
to
a
protest
of
sizable
nature.
F
You
know
when
the
when
the
sun
goes
down,
that
you
can
predict
certain
problems,
but
are
we
working
with
business
associations,
mall
owners
and
managers
to
say
all
right?
You
need
to
not
only
expect
us
to
help
you,
but
you
also
need
to
help
yourselves
by
maybe
bringing
on
private
security
personnel
to
guard
your
shop,
and
if
we
were
to
do
that
in
a
collective
way,
we
could
set
up
almost
like
a
fire
drill
around
the
city
so
that
the
devastation
of
looting
doesn't
further
set
us
back.
Is
there
any
consideration
for
that.
D
Through
the
civil
unrest
that
occurred
throughout
this
time
with
the
pandemic
and
the
civil
unrest,
the
office
of
business
services
led
by
nazar
sabri,
was
in
coordination
with
the
office
of
emergency
management,
as
well
as
other
offices
as
well
as
stacey
irvine
irving.
Excuse
me
with
the
police
department,
so
there
were
several
inter-agencies
that
were
collaborating
and
watching
out
also
for
social
media.
D
There
were
disruptions
that
occurred,
that
we
didn't
anticipate
for,
and,
I
would
say,
you're
you're
correct.
So
again
the
coordination
was
in
place,
but
understanding
where
the
disruptions,
or
whether
looting
and
tracking,
that
has
to
do
with
keeping
your
ears
to
the
ground
has
to
do
with
monitoring
social
media,
which
a
lot
of
the
collaboration
happened
there
and
some
of
it
didn't
happen
on
social
media
platforms.
D
But
to
answer
your
question,
we
did
speak
to
managers
that
took
care
of
different
places.
City
line
avenue
baker
square.
We
were
in
coordination
conversations
with
them,
those
that
were
able
and
could
afford,
had
already
placed
franklin
mills.
I
know
that
they
had
security
in
place,
so
they
welcomed
the
opportunity
to
also
have
the
national
guard
and
the
alerts
that
we
were
being
able
to
provide
them
as
a
heads
up,
and
we
continue
to
do
that
on
an
ongoing
basis.
Now.
F
So,
thanks
to
mr
bree,
we
were
able
to
in
some
of
our
corridors
minimize
some
of
the
looting.
We
couldn't
stop
it
all,
but
we
were
able
to
minimize,
but
I
also
want
us
to
looking
forward
forward
thinking
to
set
up
that
early
alert
system
because
coordinating
with
the
police
and
private
security,
we
were
able
to
minimize
it
in
certain
areas
where
people
pulled
up
looked
saw.
It
was
covered
and
moved
on
to
the
next
commercial
corridor,
but
I
would
encourage
that
to
be
a
city-wide
program.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
jones,
great
questions.
I
just
want
to
a
little
follow
up
on
your
questions
and
they
were
really
good.
The
revenue
commissioner,
commissioner,
breslin,
has
been
extremely
receptive.
We've
met
with
them
several
times
since
september.
They
have
programs
for
businesses.
I
just
want
everyone
to
be
aware,
but
they
can
help
them
with
some
of
their
tax
issues
and
work
out
the
furman.
So
I
want
to
thank
the
revenue,
commissioner
and
this
department
for
working
with
all
the
businesses
they've
been
they've
really
been
really
really
good.
A
So,
thank
you
and
let's,
let's
see
next
questions
I
guess
would
be
from
council
member
catherine
gilmore
richardson.
K
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
chair.
I
truly
appreciate
this
resolution
and
the
hearings
as
we
continue
to
work
through
the
devastating
economic
impact
of
covet
19
on
our
city
and
particularly
with
our
restaurant,
a
hospitality
and
business
community,
which
in
turn
affects
a
number
of
philadelphians
who
are
employed
in
these
industries.
K
So
I
wanted
to
to
start
off
with
a
thank
you
to
the
department
of
health
and
dr
farley
and
his
team,
and
especially
the
commerce
department
for
the
the
covet
19
small
business
relief
fund
and
all
of
our
our
city
partners,
who
have
been
working
so
diligently
to
try
to
provide
relief
to
business
owners
at
this
time.
I
wanted
to
circle
back
quickly
to
dr
farley
with
a
question
around
contract
contact
tracing.
K
H
K
Okay-
and
you
said
from
that
information-
the
100
to
200
individuals
who
were
contacted,
we
can't
properly
ascertain
even
from
that
small
sample
where
a
majority
of
the
presumptive
positive
cases
are
coming
from
in
the
city.
K
That's
correct:
okay,
okay
and
then
I
wanted
to
to
shift
to
another
question
for
commerce
relative
to
historically
disadvantaged
businesses.
I
heard
our
deputy
mayor
engler
talk
about
working
with
business
owners,
but
particularly
historically
disadvantaged
business
owners
and
I've
heard
from
several
of
them.
K
Some
prominent
who
particularly
are
in
the
restaurant
industry,
are
in
danger
of
closing
their
locations,
some
who
have
already
closed,
and
some
of
them
have
told
me
that,
for
whatever
reason
they
may
have
had
an
issue
with
the
city
from
you
know
a
revenue
perspective
needing
to
get
into
a
payment
plan,
etc,
but
because
of
that
they
were
unable
to
qualify
for
any
of
the
funding
offered
to
the
city,
and
I'm
talking
about
restaurants
and
businesses
that
are
internationally
acclaimed
that
you
know
are
part
of
our.
K
You
know:
promotion
and
marketing
materials
for
the
city.
So
how
are
we
helping
those
businesses?
You
know
sort
of
get
into
compliance
so
that
they
can
be
eligible
for
whatever
funding
may
be
forthcoming.
D
Thank
you
for
that
question.
Councilmember
richardson.
I
know
early
on
when
the
commerce
department
was
able
to
put
the
small
business
relief
money
to
the
street
and
the
onslaught
of
covet
and
pandemic.
We
worked
very
closely
with
the
revenue
department
and
other
departments
to
get
these
businesses
into
a
compliance
or
payment
plan.
Once
we
received
and
when
I
say
get
them,
we
follow.
We
had
someone
that
was
assigned
to
working
directly
with
them
and
with
the
revenue
department
to
get
payment
plans
initiated
or
or
the
agreement.
D
Let
me
say
the
agreement
of
a
payment
plan
once
we
got
a
a
sign
off
from
the
revenue
department.
Those
folks
went
through
and
were
able
to
receive
funding
from
the
city.
If
there
were
cases
that
were
more
complicated
or
were
not
able
to
get
funding
the
commerce
department,
the
office
of
business
services
works
with
those
businesses
to
get
them
compliant
and
then
to
an
agreement.
D
That
you
know
of
I'll
we'll
be
happy
to
look
into
that
immediately.
As
we
begin
to
think
through
the
next
phase
of
funding
to
hit
the
streets.
K
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
response.
I
also
wanted
to
know
if
you
all
are
still
working
on
capacity
building
for
some
of
these
organizations
who
really
lack
the
internal
structure
to
adequately
participate
in
the
application
process.
Yes,.
D
That's
that
work
is
happening
through
the
office
of
neighborhood
economic
development
under
deputy
commerce,
director
karen
fegley
ed,
as
well
as
the
office
of
economic
opportunity
with
iola
harper.
So
we
are
working
with
businesses
to
build
capacity
and
to
see
where
the
areas
are
of
so
to
speak.
Weakness
where
we
can
strengthen
them
to
prepare
them
for
opportunities
in
the
future.
K
K
In
light
of
the
new
work
from
home
opportunities
at
a
number
of
companies
have
offered
as
a
result
of
the
pandemic,
what
type
of
collaboration
is
happening
with
our
state
partners
and
others
to
continue
to
figure
out
how
we,
you
know,
really
look
at
our
tax
structure
in
a
significant
way,
so
that
we
don't
have
an
over
reliance
on
the
wage
tax.
L
J
And
that's
a
really
important
question
that
we
are
talking
with
talking
about
as
we
prepare
for
the
fy
22
budget
process
and
we're
at
the
stage
where
we're
talking
about
it
internally
and
whether
there
are
things
we
need
to
do.
And
once
we've
determined
that.
I
think
then
we'll
start
to
reach
out
and
work
collaboratively
with
our
partners
in
the
state.
A
Thank
you,
council,
member
gilmore
richardson.
I
just
want
to
follow
up
on
that
question.
Rob
41
of
the
residents
of
this
41
of
the
workers
in
the
city
live
in
the
suburbs.
What
do
you
anticipate
of
that?
41
will
be
lost
wage
tax?
What
percentage
so.
A
Right.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
I'd
like
to
also
recognize
councilman,
marina,
canada
sanchez
as
being
president
good
morning
and
now
I
know
that
council
member,
derek
green,
has
some
questions.
I'd
like
to
recognize
council
member,
derek
green.
Thank
you,
mr.
E
Chair,
I
want
to
thank
the
administration,
the
health
department
and
all
the
city
departments
in
reference
to
the
worksheet,
the
work
you
have
done,
the
yeoman
work
that
you
have
done
in
reference
to
addressing
this
pandemic.
This
has
been
unprecedented,
the
way
it's
impacted
every
aspect
of
the
world
and
the
steps
that
you
have
taken
to
try
to
prevent
the
spread
and
the
sense
of
urgency
that
you
have
used
to
address
this
global
pandemic
is
commendable,
but
this
pandemic
has
also
been
an
economic
crisis,
and
my
questions
focus
on.
E
I
don't
get
the
same
perspective
of
that
same
level
of
urgency
in
reference
to
the
economic
crisis
in
reference
to
the
small
businesses
impacted,
as
our
chair
said,
and
I
agree
with
him
due
to
no
fault
of
their
own-
have
been
impacted
by
this
pandemic,
in
particular,
as
I
think
about
some
of
the
steps
and
taking
steps
that
have
been
taken
in
the
measures,
I'm
just
concerned
in
reference
to
how
we
continue
to
move
forward
and
demonstrate
greater
sense
of
urgency
to
address
small
businesses.
E
In
particular,
I
knew
a
number
of
the
neighborhood
improvement
districts
were
pushing
the
administration
to
open
up
outdoor
dining.
I
know
from
you
know
my
work
and
talk
with
a
number
of
those
districts
and
also
through
my
work
with
nancy
cities
and
other
organizations.
E
I
saw
what
other
cities
were
doing
to
more
readily
open
up
outdoor
dining
for
businesses,
because
time
is
money,
and
we
all
know
that
you
know
philadelphia
isn't
northeast,
and
so
we
knew
that
we're
going
to
have
a
finite
amount
of
time
to
provide
outdoor
dining
in
each
week
that
we
lost
in
doing
that.
That
was
another
week
that
a
number
of
the
businesses
that
have
been
really
significantly
impacted
by
this
pandemic
did
not
have
the
opportunity
to
at
least
try
to
convert
some
of
their
operations
to
an
outdoor
dining.
E
When
the
new
measures
were
introduced-
and
we
all
have
seen
the
increase
in
the
spread-
not
only
here
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
but
across
the
nation,
but
then
it
was
appeared
after
that-
that
the
relief
measures
on
using
occupancy
were
announced-
and
I
I
think
this
goes
to
that
lack
of
coordination
and
communication,
and
I
know
that
dr
farley
stated
that
you're
open
to
talk
with
groups
about
this
issue-
and
I
know
the
commerce
department
has
been
doing
that
throughout
this
pandemic.
E
I've
worked
very
closely
with
them
on
the
phl
small
business,
grant
loan
and
relief
fund.
I
guess
my
question
is
that
going
forward
these
new
measures
were
into
effect
until
january
1.,
I'm
sure.
Prior
to
that
time
period,
there
will
be
some
steps
to
decide
whether
to
extend
it
or
to
pull
back
on
those
measures.
So
in
this
regard,
is
there
going
to
be
a
coordination,
not
just
commerce
department,
because
the
commerce
department
has
been
doing
that
they've
been
reaching
out
and
having
conversations.
E
But
it's
not
a
silo
approach.
We
need
to
have
a
more
combined
approach,
which
is
the
commerce
department,
the
mayor's
office
and
the
health
department
in
a
collaborative
perspective,
in
reference
to
how
we're
going
to
communicate
to
those
businesses
that
are
going
to
be
testifying
here
today
about.
What's
going
to
happen
after
january
1.
C
Sure,
thanks
council
person,
so
we
have
asked
the
commerce
department
to
convene
those
groups
so
that
we
can
get
feedback
from
them
to
figure
out
what
are
the
levers
that
we
might
be
able
to
pull
in
order
to
impact
their
businesses
and
to
support
them?
If
there's
going
to
need
to
be,
you
know,
restrictions
that
are
extended
past
january,
1st
or
january
4th
in
the
governor's
order,
I
think,
going
back
to
the
november.
We
imposed
the
restrictions
in
november.
C
I
think
we
tried
to
move
quickly,
probably
not
quickly
enough
for
a
number
of
businesses
that
were,
you,
know,
concerned
about
how
these
would
impact
them
and
and
how
the
the
the
measures
that
we
did
put
in
place,
whether
it
was
using
occupancy
or
business
income
or
receipts
tax,
were
not
strong
enough.
C
I
think
we
are
working
with
the
resources
we
have
with
the
levers
that
we
can
pull
to
support
businesses,
but
we
we
have
said
from
the
beginning
that
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
to
make
it
through
this
pandemic.
Without
substantial
support
from
the
federal
and
state
government,
the
state
general
assembly
decided
to
take
over
a
billion
dollars
in
karezak
money
and
use
it
to
plug
their
budget
hole
instead
of
supporting
either
local
governments
or
supporting
small
businesses.
C
I
think
that
was
an
unfortunate
decision,
but
has
put
us
in
a
position
where
our
resources
are
limited,
and
while
we
advocate
for
additional
federal
relief,
there's
an
opportunity,
things
may
move
this
week
that
money
may
flow
through
previous
formulas
that
we
know
have
not
have
not
supported
our
local
businesses.
That's
why
we've
argued
for
substantial
support
for
state
and
local
governments
where
we
know
we
can
get
the
dollars
through
to
businesses
who
need
it
most
and
it
looks
like
the
republicans
may
decide
to
block
that.
C
So
you
know
we
continue
to
lobby
there.
I
appreciate
your
support,
appreciate,
council
member,
dom
support
and
organizing
those
lobbying
efforts
with
our
partners
at
the
federal
level,
and
we
will
do
all
we
can
to
present
a
coordinated
approach
to
any
additional
restrictions
and
any
additional
relief
measures
and
we're
just
trying
to
do
it
in
the
the
best
and
fastest
way
we
can.
As
a
as
a
large
government.
E
E
I
do
agree
with
you
that
it
seems
like
the
pat
the
bipartisan
package
that
is
moving
through
the
federal
government,
more
likely
than
not,
unfortunately,
will
not
include
state
and
local
aid
from
what
I've
been
hearing
in
the
past
number
of
hours.
But
that's
a
separate
perspective.
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
those
points.
My
my
question
is
and
I'm
going
to
come
back
to
this.
I
know
you're,
asking
the
commerce
department
to
convene
those
conversations,
but
the
city
of
philadelphia
is
not
a
silo.
E
It's
not
just
a
conference
department,
a
lot
of
decisions
that
are
being
made
are
being
made
by
the
health
department
and
so
and
and
also
in
coordination
with
the
mayor's
office.
So
the
question
is:
when
you're
having
these
conversations
and
dr
farley
said
he
won't
to
participate
all
these
conversations
going
to
be
convened
with
the
engagement
of
and
participate.
E
Actually,
we
want
those
infections
to
go
down,
but
that's
the
engagement
that
people
are
looking
for
they're
looking
for
that
engagement,
not
just
with
commerce
but
with
the
mayor's
office,
as
well
as
the
health
department.
So
will
both
other
departments
be
willing
to
be
part
of
those
engaged
conversations
with
some
of
the
organizations
and
groups
that
are
represented
here
today?.
C
Yes,
those
are
the
there's
that
commitment
that
has
been
made
in
the
meetings
that
we've
had
again
with
some
of
the
representatives
that
will
testify
today
and
their
industries,
and
we
will
do
that
as
well.
The
health
department,
the
mayor's
office
and
other
city
departments
involved
and
necessary
to
those
conversations
will
participate
in
those
convenings.
E
I'm
clearly
familiar
with
the
challenge
that
the
city
has
from
a
fiscal
perspective,
and
I
know
our
fund
balance
is
abysmally
low
at
this
point
and
if
there's
some
measure
of
hope
that
there
is
some
additional
state
and
local
aid,
it
seems
like
it
may
not
come
out
of
this
bill
package
that
is
moving
through
congress
this
week,
but
and
then
from
my
information
that
the
president-elect
is
also
looking
to
do
another
package
going
forward,
hopefully
in
the
first
or
second
quarter
of
2021..
E
My
question
is
how
we're
going
to
use
some
of
those
dollars,
and
this
goes
back
to
that
urgency,
for
economic
development
and
promotion,
especially
for
these
industries
and
these
segments,
and
these
small
businesses
that
have
been
so
fundamental
for
the
growth
of
the
city
when
you
think
about
where
we
were
in
the
early
90s
in
reference
to
our
center
city
core
and
where
we
are
now
from
both
convention
and
visitors,
from
hospitality
and
restaurants
from
arts
and
culture,
we've
gone
a
a
significant
long
way,
which
has
helped
to
provide
additional
dollars
into
our
city.
E
Our
budget.
You
know
this
year,
pre-pandemic
was
over
five
billion
dollars.
So
my
question
is,
and
will
there
be
a
commitment
to
spend
more
dollars
than
we
have
done,
and
I
do
want
to
thank
the
administration
for
putting
some
additional
dollars
into
helping
the
initiative
that
government
wolf
has
sent
a
huge,
huge
support
that
helps
small
businesses
that
did
not
get
that
payroll
protection
program
dollars.
C
Sure
so
it's
hard
to
make
commitment,
because
we
don't
know
the
the
size
of
the
stimulus
package
as
well
as
the
restrictions.
As
you
know,
the
coronaries
relief
fund
dollars
that
we
received
come
with
significant
restrictions
that
the
finance
director
can
speak
to
the
other.
E
Distribution,
I
could
just
say
in
all
due
respect.
Yes,
they
do
come
with
restrictions,
and
you
know
I'm
very
familiar
with
those
restrictions,
but
a
number
of
other
entities
like
baltimore
bucks
county
using
their
crf
dollars
to
do
marketing
at
bucks
county
right
now.
A
lot
of
other
entities
are
doing
this
and
I
had
conversations
with
various
agencies
within
the
administration
about
these.
E
I
is
in
the
summer
time
and
I
understand
that
we
were
trying
to
focus
on
you-
know,
relief
for
hospitality
and
some
of
the
other
issues
that
we
have
provided
dollars
for,
and
I
I
commend
the
administration
for
doing
that.
I'm
just
saying
going
forward
into
the
next
year.
There
should
be
a
greater
commitment
in
that
regard.
C
Understood
and-
and
I
talk
regularly
again
with
the
county
commissioners-
their
allocation
of
their
cares
act
dollars.
The
situation
in
the
counties
is
substantially
different.
They
are
not
dealing
with
the
same
level
of
municipal
expenses
that
we
are,
and
in
the
case
of
baltimore,
both
baltimore
county
and
baltimore
city
were
able
to
receive
separate,
cares,
act
allocations
in
addition
to
what
maryland
received
and
how
maryland
decided
to
to
dole
out
those
dollars.
C
I
think
you
have
our
commitment
to
continue
to
support
in
businesses
that
are
impacted
by
and
industries
that
are
impacted
by
kovitz,
specifically
the
hospitality
industry.
You
know
when,
when
we
reach
mass
vaccination
levels
that
dr
farley
has
talked
about-
and
there
are
you
know,
ease
of
travel
and
we
are
seeing
the
return
of
our
hospitality
to
sector
in
a
big
way.
It's
going
to
require
additional
support
from
the
city
government,
from
the
state
government
and
from
all
of
our
partners.
So
you
have
our
commitment
to
that.
C
I
can't
again
speak
to
specific
allocations
based
off
of
what
we
what
we
expect
to
see
in
a
relief
package
and
what
restrictions
come
with
those
new
dollars.
But
we
are
committed
to
supporting
these
these
industries
and
sectors
as
we
move
forward
and
to
do
it
collaboratively
with
city
council
great.
E
And
I
do
appreciate
that
guys.
We
do
a
number
of
expenses
that
a
lot
of
other
jurisdictions
do
not
have
based
on
our
high
level
poverty.
In
fact,
we
are
the
fact
that
we
are
a
city
in
accounting.
I
would
agree
with
you.
We
get
shortchanged,
whereas
we
should
be
getting.
I
mean
even
the
funding
formula
I
saw
for
this
possible.
E
160
billion
dollars
showed
an
allocation
for
states,
counties
and
cities,
and
because
philadelphia
is
both
a
city
and
a
county,
we're
probably
not
going
to
get
the
full
range
of
dollars
that
we
should
get
and
that's
very
unfortunate,
and
I
also
think
you
know
we
should
be
putting
more
pressure
on
the
wolf
administration
to
provide
more
dollars
because,
as
our
center
city
court
goes,
that's
how
the
city
goes.
As
our
city
goes,
that's
how
the
region
and
as
the
region
goes.
E
There
goes
the
commonwealth
of
pennsylvania
and
so
that's
very
important
that
we
begin
that
we
should
be
getting
those
additional
dollars
that
we
need
and
I'm
glad
we
do
have
some
new
leaders
in
the
german
sun.
I
mean
that
can
help
push
that,
but
we
need
to
push
that
even
more
because
it's
important
last
question
I
had
it
is.
I
know
the
challenges
of
trying
to
navigate
this
budget
has
been
very
precarious.
You
mentioned
a
fun
balance,
which
you
know
very
concerning
a
number
of
other
pressures.
E
We
have
in
reference
to
our
labor
contracts
in
the
school
district,
other
things
that
will
be
coming
up
as
part
of
not
only
this
calendar
year
as
we
manage
our
cash
flow
until
we
get
to
the
new
fiscal
year,
which
starts
on
july.
1.
are
the
fair,
non-financial
means
that
we
could
use
to
help
better,
promote
the
region
going
to
some
of
our
corporate
partners
who
may
have
marketing
dollars
or
reserve
cable
television
dollars.
E
When
I
think
about
the
work
that
we
did
collectively
as
a
city
in
reference
to
philadelphia,
delivers
in
responding
to
the
amazon
proposal,
can
we
have
that
same
type
of
energy
in
reaching
out
to
a
number
of
different
entities?
Who
can
help
us
promote
these
industries?
Hospitality
and
other
means
that
are
done
in
non-financial
ways
where
we
can
bring
others
to
do
that,
because
we're
really
a
situation
that
is
very
concerning
when
I
think
of
where
we
were
in
the
early
90s.
E
The
city
was
on
the
verge
of
a
bankruptcy,
but
other
cities
and
the
counties
around
us
and
the
commonwealth
were
not
really
that
same
financial
situation
and
it
was
really
more
philadelphia
we're
in
a
different
dynamic,
where
all
cities
are
in
a
very
precarious
situation.
E
In
reference
to
trying
to
get
back
to
what
some
would
say
is
normal
and
so
they're
competing.
I'm
already
seeing
advertisements
and
discussions
about
how
to
you
know,
get
people
to
live
in
the
philadelphia
region
to
go
to
this
city
or
that's
it
for
hospitality
tourism.
So,
from
the
perspective
of
using
non-financial
means,
I
would
say
non-financial
to
the
city,
because
we're
in
a
very
challenging
perspective,
but
reaching
out
to
various
entities
to
help
us
to
promote
philadelphia,
the
region
of
our
economy
and
use
that
same
sense
of
urgency.
E
C
D
Thank
you,
councilman
greene,
as
discussed,
and
you
know
some
of
this
you've
been
included
in
some
of
these
conversations.
D
There
have
been
discussions
with
the
chamber
in
collaboration
of
efforts
of
the
4r
framework,
reimagine
restart
reopen,
so
those
conversations
are
happening
and
moving
forward
as
well
to
the
side
of
that
with
the
new
director
of
commerce
in
place.
Director
rashid
has
begun
to
have
conversations
as
well
with
different
corporations
and
entities
about
philadelphia
and
the
present
our
presence
here
in
the
market
and
as
she
spoke
to
of
the
region.
Philadelphia
is
a
major
contributor
of
work.
D
Employees,
businesses
that
all
want
to
operate
within
our
within
our
region
within
our
core
we've
also
did
outreach
to
several
other
corporations
to
speak
to
them
about
just
that.
How
do
we
continue
to
promote
the
city
without
a
non-financial
commitment?
There
are
also
corporations,
as
our
budgets
have
been
strained.
Corporations
have
cut
in
their
budgets
as
well.
Just
recently,
councilman
don
spoke
earlier
about
life
science.
D
D
It
will
continue
to
go
on
not
just
for
this
year,
but
for
the
next
several
years
as
we
look
to
rebuild
the
region
to
our
well
beyond
formal
years
to
strengthen
our
region
moving
forward.
E
Okay,
well,
thank
you.
Those
comments.
I
just
want
to
just
re
reiterate
that
we
need
that
same
level
of
urgency
that
we've
shown
to
keep
fit
up
in
safes
safe
from
the
virus
and
also
trying
to
keep
that
offense
employed
and
maintaining
and
growing
our
small
businesses.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
green,
and
thank
you
for
your
questions
very
good.
I
want
to
recognize
council
member
isaiah,
thomas
who's
joined
us
good
morning,
councilmember
thomas.
I
also
want
to
mention
I'm
sure
that
jeff
or
cena
from
visit
philly
is
going
to
mention
this,
but
some
good
news
is
that
pillow.
If
he
was
named
by
conan,
ask
traveler,
I
think,
is
one
of
the
top
eight
places
to
visit
in
2021.
A
So
that's
a
positive.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
things
are
open
for
people
to
visit
and
so
follow
up
on,
councilmember
green's
comment
in
14
days,
many
of
the
people
testifying
today
are
wondering
what
rules
are
they
going
to
have
to
operate
their
business
under?
They
have
no
idea.
I
think
one
of
the
issues
for
them
is
that
we
can't
just
give
them
two
three
four
five
days
notice
on
rules.
We
have
to
give
them
advance
notice
and
that's
that
sense
of
urgency-
and
I
think
you
know
I'm
listening
to
the
commentary.
A
The
city
doesn't
have
enough
money
to
support
all
these
different
problems
and
businesses.
We
just
can't
afford
it.
So
I
really
think
and
you're
going
to
hear
from
more
testimony
and
my
colleagues
we
have
to
start
focusing
on
how
do
we
reopen
in
a
safe
way,
a
smart
restart?
How
do
we
open
those
gyms
in
a
safe
way?
A
How
do
we
get
back
the
restaurants
in
a
safe
way,
and
I
think
if
we
hear
from
the
fitness
people
gym
people,
the
restaurant
people
hotel
people
they'll,
tell
you
how
they
could
do
it
in
a
safe
way?
I
think
we
really
need
to
listen
to
them
and
and
do
it
because
otherwise
we
will
destroy
this
economy.
A
M
Good
is
it
still
morning
good
morning,
so
I
want
to
thank
everybody.
I
thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
conducting
this
very
important
hearing.
You
know,
as
you
mentioned
earlier,
in
your
comments.
We
have
been
having
conversations
with
with
the
restaurant
industry
and
hospitality
industry
about
some
of
the
challenges
they
face,
and
I
can
only
imagine
how
difficult
it
must
be.
I
mean
we,
we
did
an
event.
I
did
an
event
on
saturday
and
you
know
we
had
it
all
planned
out.
M
It
was
going
to
be
outdoors
and
when
the
governors
rule
new
rules
came
down,
we
had
two
days
to
sort
of
scramble,
and
so
it
really
did
give
me
a
taste
of
what
it's
like
to.
Try
to.
You
know
quickly
change
up
and
go
in
a
different
direction,
and
so
I
had
a
whole
lot
of
questions
prepared.
You
know
just
just
thinking
along
those
lines,
but
I
got
a
call
this
morning
and
I'm
so
I'm
going
to
switch
up
just
a
little
bit.
M
I
got
a
call
this
morning
that
ray
murphy,
who
many
know
I
know
he
knows
councilman
curtis
jones,
very
well
passed
away.
Ray
murphy
was
a
titan
in
north
philadelphia
in
the
business
community,
on
north
22nd
street
and
and
beyond
north
22nd.
He
wasn't
just
limited
to
that
area.
M
He
was
someone
who
knew
the
pulse
of
the
neighborhood
and
also
owned
and
ran
several
businesses,
including
tommy's
men's
and
boys,
wear,
which
was
a
staple
in
the
community
for
decades
and
still
is,
and
so
we
lost
him
to
covet,
and
you
know
it's
just
really
hard
as
we
you
know
prepare.
For
you
know,
a
vaccine
is
getting
ready
to
be
distributed
in
high
hopes
and
hopes
for
a
brighter
tomorrow.
M
It's
really
hard
when
you
lose
someone
who's,
just
such
a
wonderful
person
as
you
get
down
almost
to
the
finish
line,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
do
is
talk
this
morning
with
the
administration
about
enforcement,
because
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
seeing
is
you
know
within
the
african-american
community
is
the
spread
of
covet.
I'm
seeing
some
corner
stores
where
it's
almost
as
if
there
is
no
pandemic
going
on
and
we
need
enforcement
in
our
neighborhoods.
M
We
need
enforcement,
not
just
in
center
city,
but
in
a
lot
of
our
neighborhoods,
a
lot
of
our
corner
stores.
The
take
takeout
restaurants,
you
know
folks,
are-
are
still
going
still
packed
in,
and
I'd
like
to
hear
from
the
administration.
How
do
we
get
the
enforcement
from
the
health
department?
How
do
we
get
enforcement
from
l,
I
and
from
you
know
the
administration
to
make
sure
that
anyone
who
was
operating
in
a
manner
which
puts
other
people
at
risk,
because
you
don't
just
you
know,
put
other
businesses
at
risk.
You
know
you
know.
M
Some
of
this
behavior
has
really
shut
down
the
activity
in
center
city.
You
know
if
there's
been
there's
a
ripple
effect
to
all
of
this,
and
so
it's
caused
covert
destroy
to
spread.
It's
caused
a
large
number
of
infections
here
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
and
so,
if
we
don't,
you
know
pinpoint
areas
where
we
know
that
people
might
not
be
playing
by
the
rules.
Why
not
target
in
on
those
businesses?
First,
why
not
make
sure
that
we
get
down
to
the
businesses
that
we
know?
You
know
that
they're
not
following
the
rules.
M
I
can
give
you
a
list,
you
know.
If
you
don't
know
I
can.
I
can
let
you
know,
I
think
every
district
council
member
can
probably
give
you
a
list
of
areas
that
you
can
go
to
and
find
lots
of
people
congregating
without
mass
without
social
distancing.
You
know
not
doing
any
of
the
things
we
recommend
and,
as
a
result,
again
there's
a
ripple
effect
and
so
businesses
are
closed.
People
are
out
of
work,
you
know
and
and
as
you
know,
within
the
minority
community,
when
everyone
else
is
hurting
we're
dying
okay.
M
C
So,
thank
you
councilmember
for
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
dr
farley
to
talk
about
some
of
the
health
departments.
Specific
enforcement
health
department
has
inspectors
out
across
the
city
visiting
those
businesses.
Obviously
your
your
offer
to
share
a
list
of
businesses.
I
think
would
be
appreciated,
so
we
can
again
target
those
efforts
to
the
most
serious
offenders.
C
I
think
we
are
trying
to
balance
being
supportive
of
businesses
to
councilman
jones's
previous
point,
supportive
businesses
operating
safely
and
correctly
and
not
over
enforcing
against
businesses
that
you
know,
may
just
not
understand
the
rules
or
may
not
just
be
interpreting
them
in
the
in
the
right
way,
but
I'll
turn
it
over
to
dr
farley
to
talk
through.
You
know
what
the
health
department
has
done
so
far.
H
Yeah,
I
thank
you,
council
member,
so
we
do
have
inspectors
that,
for
the
most
part,
under
ordinary
circumstances,
they
inspect
restaurants
and
they're
out
there
they're
still
inspecting,
and
they
expect
restaurants
in
food
stores
they're
still
out
there
doing
that
amount
of
schedule,
but
then
they're
also
available
on
complaint.
So
any
complaint
that
comes
into
311
or
any
complaint
you
want
to
send
to
me.
We
will
send
to
our
inspectors.
H
We
would
be
more
than
happy
to
send
them
out
and
if
it
is,
as
jim
engle
just
said,
if
it
looks
like
they're
just
being
a
little
lacks
and
need
a
little
warning,
then
they
get
that.
On
the
other
hand,
if
this
is
really
something
that
is
they're
defying
what
the
rules
are,
then
we
will
shut
them
down
and
we
have
shut
down.
A
number
of
businesses
in
the
city
will
continue
to
do
that.
H
You
know
there
is
a
problem,
though,
that
there's
a
lot
of
businesses
in
the
city
and
there's
probably
more
out
there
who
are
not
following
the
rules
than
we
have
inspectors
to
get
to.
So
it's
always
going
to
be.
You
know
we
will
we'll
follow
up
on
all
of
them.
We're
not
going
to
be
able
to
follow
them,
be
there
every
day
when
people
are
defined
well,.
M
And
I
understand
that
and
that's
part
of
my
concern
because
I
know
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
be
there
all
day,
but
if
you're
going
to
shut
down
an
entire
industry,
then
if
we're
telling
you
that
this
location
is
a
problem,
then
they
need
to
be
shut
down
too,
because
they're,
causing
the
ripple
effect
that
I'm
speaking
of
I
don't
think
it
should
be
a
warning.
I
think
if
you
go
out
and
you
observe
20
guys
standing
close
together,
you
know
in
a
10-foot
space
and
nobody's
wearing
a
mask,
nobody's
social
distancing.
M
Then
this
location
is
a
breeder.
This
is
a
place
where
this
virus
is,
you
know,
allowed
to
to
flourish,
and
so
the
idea
of
waiting
for
health
or
illinois
or
whoever
to
come
back
out,
I
think,
is
unacceptable.
I
just
you
know
we
wait
and
we
wait
and
we
wait
for
enforcement.
We
need
enforcement
now,
especially
because
of
the
dire
consequences
to
health
and
to
the
city's
finances
and
to
the
to
the
industry
itself.
M
We
we
need
more
action
immediately,
that's
not
going
to
be
well
we're
going
to
give
you
a
warning
and
then
we
might
or
might
not
get
back
to
you
and
meanwhile
that
you
know
it
just
keeps
going
on
and
on.
H
Appreciate
that,
and
there
definitely
have
been
a
number
of
places
that
we
have
shut
down
and
and
we'll
continue
that,
but
I
take
that
that
suggestion.
Thank
you.
M
Okay,
well,
I
hope
you'll
you'll,
take
it
and
and
act
on
it.
So
thank
you.
My
last
question
is:
I
just
wanted
to
go
back
and
I
have
a
bit
of
a
different
perspective
than
our
than
my
good
friend
and
chairman
councilman.
M
Dom
as
we
talked
about
supporting
businesses,
I
know
that
the
councilmen
felt
very
strongly
that
we
should
not
support
or
that
that
there
just
aren't
enough
resources,
not
mostly
not
support,
but
there's
just
not
enough
resources
to
support
newer
businesses
that
are
starting
up
now,
and
I
would
say
that
I
would
take
exception
with
that
with
african-american
and
latino
businesses,
because
we
have
had
so
little
support
and
we
operate
as
african-american
businesses,
I'm
not
sure
what
the
percentage
is
for
latino,
but
we
only
own
operate
about
two
to
three
percent
of
all
businesses
here
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
M
So
I
would
say
that
if
there
is
a
small
minority
business
that
is
a
startup,
then
we
have
to
support
them
as
well.
I
think
that
we
can
do
both.
I
think
that
we
can
do
both.
We
can
support
existing
businesses
and
provide
them
with
the
support
they
need,
and
we
can
give
you
know,
support
to
new
minority
businesses,
knowing
that
97
of
the
businesses
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
Don't
look
like
those,
so
I
think
we
have
to.
M
We
must
we
must
encourage
and
support
african-american
and
latino
businesses,
and
that's
my
last
statement.
Mr
engler,
I
don't
know
if
you
wanted
to
comment
or
anyone
else
about
that.
C
No,
I
appreciate
that
we,
we
have
made
a
commitment
to
historically
disadvantaged
businesses
owned
to
support
them
through
this.
I
don't
know
if
don
wants
to
wants
to
speak
specifically
to
those
efforts,
but
I
think
we
we
absolutely
hear
your
comment,
appreciate
it
and
have
been
working
to
to
try
and
address
it.
D
Thank
you
thanks
real
quick
council
member
best.
Thank
you
for
that
question.
We
are.
We
do
have
a
guided
work
based
on
the
equitable
entrepreneurship
strategy
that
the
city
and
pcitc
will
focus
our
collective
commitment
on
new
investment
and
resources
to
grow
local
and
small
black
and
brown
owned
businesses.
D
So
some
of
these
efforts
will
include
a
more
affordable,
flexible
capital,
targeted
business
support
for
the
and
resources
for
these
small
businesses
and
owners
that
are
seeking
to
acquire
real
estate
wealth
and
their
business.
As
many
know,
there
are
so
many
great
minority
businesses
along
the
corridors,
but
they
do
not
own
the
real
estate
that
they're
in
and
ownership
ownership
state
is
one
way
of
building
wealth
and
creating
legacy
and
creating
legacy.
D
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
taking
a
a
very
targeted
and
intentional
look
at
that
that
work
has
has
begun.
M
Very
good,
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
it's
not
a
situation
where
you
know
we're
we're
supporting
businesses,
and
you
know
we're
not
asking
the
you
know
the
questions
of.
Are
you
a
new
business
and
then
you
know
when
it's
a
black
around
person
all
of
a
sudden.
Now
it's
a
new
set
of
criteria
or
a
different
set
of
questions
and
say:
oh,
are
you
a
new
business?
Sorry,
we
can't
help
you,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
paying
particular
attention
as
we
grow
this
economy.
M
It's
almost.
It
feels
like
start
over
all
over
again
that
we're
paying
attention
to
what
commerce
and
philadelphia
is
going
to
look
like.
So
I
thank
everyone
for
their
work.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councilman.
Let
me
just
clarify
I'm
in
support
of
helping
new
businesses
and
existing
businesses,
but
I
will
say
that
many
of
the
today
we're
hearing
from
the
existing
businesses
and
they
need
to
stay
they've
made
investments,
they've
made
commitments,
they've
been
loyal
to
the
city
of
philadelphia,
and
many
of
them
are
minority.
Businesses
many
are,
and
so
we
cannot
let
them
go
down.
This
is
no
fault
of
theirs
that
this
is
happening.
M
Councilman,
I
certainly
do
agree
with
you
and
I
think
that
you
know
and
and
you've
heard
me
say
many
times
that
we
we
can
recover.
But
what
are
we
recovering
too?
You
know
we
don't
want
to
recover
and
have
you
know
no
place
to
go
nothing
to
do
no
restaurants
to
sit
down
and
eat
at
no,
you
know
no
place
to
shop.
What
are
we
going
to
be
recovering
too?
So?
M
Obviously,
it's
a
great
concern
of
mine
as
well,
but
what
I
am
saying
is
that
we
can
support
our
existing
businesses
that
have
been
here
in
the
fight
with
us
in
philadelphia
and
have
you
know,
invested
their
own
time,
talent
and
treasury
to
make
this
city
great?
We
can
still
we
can.
We
can
support
them
and
we
can
also
support
newer
minority
businesses
because,
as
you
said,
you
know,
there's
a
there
are
about
three
percent
of
commerce
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
M
That
number
has
long
been
unacceptable,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
the
administration
understands
that
it
cannot
continue
this
way,
and
this
is
a
perfect
opportunity
to
make
sure
that
we
engage
and
encourage
small
minority
businesses.
A
Well,
you
know,
I
actually
think
the
numbers
we
can
clarify
this
for
minority
businesses
are
closer
to
30.
The
problem
is
minority
businesses
that
have
employees
which
we
really
need
to
work
on.
We
need
to
teach
minority
business
owners
how
to
scale
up
their
businesses.
That's
a
separate
commerce
conversation,
but
that's
really
what
we
need
to
do,
because
we
have
a.
H
M
And
thank
you
for
that
clarification
on
the
numbers,
but
but
most
of
those
that
30
is
like
you
know,
it's
a
one-stop
shop.
It's
it's
me,
I'm
doing
everything
and
it's
not
the
kind
of
growth
that
we
need
for
the
city.
So
I'm
talking
about
the
businesses
that
are,
you
know
significantly
able
to
contribute
to
our
tax
base
to
hire
other
employees
to
you
know,
grow
to
have
other
locations.
We
want
to
support
that.
A
M
As
long
as
we're
supporting
minority
businesses
and
making
sure
that
there's
space
room
at
the
table
for
everyone,
you
know
we
just
need
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
commitment
to
do
so
all
right.
A
N
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
great
job
so
far.
I
know
everybody
wants
to
hear
from
the
the
people
and
in
the
industry.
It's
really
important.
We
know
and
we've
asked
a
lot
of
questions,
but
my
my
big
thing
here
is:
we
understand
what
we
have
done
as
far
as
the
businesses
closures
and
how
that
has
impacted
them.
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
as
a
city,
and
maybe
we
could
ask
them
jim
angler
as
we
go
to
open
up
and
councilman
member
dom.
N
As
you
had
mentioned,
a
smart
restart.
We
got
to
start
thinking
about
how
do
we
safely
open
up
and
how
do
we
do
it
in
a
way
with
the
proper
procedures
and
policies
in
place?
We
understand
with
the
closed
down,
and
we
know
january
4th
is
the
state
closure
and
the
reevaluation
of
how
that
would
happen
in
in
in
february
and
and
dr
farley
has
stated
that
you
know
this
virus
is
taking
this
the
same
track
as
many
other
viruses
is
that
you
know
december
january
is
going
to
be
probably
the
highest
numbers.
N
So
what
we
need
to
do
is
work
together
with
commerce,
and
I-
and
I
want
to
thank
commerce-
and
I
think
councilmember
jones
said
this:
commerce,
l
and
I
streets
revenue
everybody's
really
been
working
hard
to
to
try
to
get
resources
out.
Yes,
we
as
a
city
do
not
have
enough
resources
to
give
to
everybody
and
yes,
they
are
struggling,
and
we
support
the
federal
stimulus-
that's
hopefully
coming
shortly,
but
I
think
our
concentration
now
has
to
be
on.
N
How
do
we
smartly
open
up
our
hospitality
industry?
And
you
know
our
culture
industry?
We
know
that
our
museums
that
are
out
there,
our
places
of
arts
and
culture,
are
struggling
through
this
a
lot
of
nonprofits.
N
We
need
to
really
address
those
issues
and
look
at
ways
that
they
can
operate
safely,
even
with
the
vaccine.
This
is
probably
going
to
be
until
the
summer
time
till
we
start
to
get
back
to
some
type
of
normality
or
or
some
type
of
herd
immunity.
So
we
need
to
really
help
these
folks
come
up
with
these
ideas,
and
this
hearing
is
perfect
for
that,
because
we
get
a
chance
to
hear
from
the
industries
of
how
they
could
do
things
safely.
N
We
get
a
chance
to
hear
from
museums
of
how
they're
making
sure
when
people
are
coming
in
there
they're
wearing
proper
ppe
and
keeping
social
distancing
and
doing
these
things,
because
we're
going
to
have
to
do
this
for
a
long
time.
N
So
you
know
closure
and
maybe
what's
happening
now,
but
I
think
we're
looking
to
the
future
of
opening
and
I
think
that's
what
we
need
to
really
concentrate
on
and-
and
I
know
when
jim
angler
said-
that
they're
committing
to
meeting
with
these
industries
and
have
them
having
a
seat
at
the
table,
whether
it's
the
restaurants
and
hospitality
industries,
the
hotels
and
then
whether
it's
the
museums
and
the
arts
and
cultures
industries.
But
what
is
our
plan
for
opening
and
making
sure
we're
listening
to?
N
They
have
the
ideas
we
as
elected
officials
and
sometimes
in
all
in
our
space.
You
know
we.
We
look
at
a
global
picture,
but
they're
very
concise
on
what
they
want.
So
what
are
we
going
to
do
to
to
work
with
them
and
to
make
sure
we
put
things
in
place
as
we
do
this
smart
reopening
and
as
they
feel
like
all
right
we're
starting
to
see
the
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel
so
that
we
could
get
them
up
and
rolling.
C
Sure,
thank
you
councilmember.
So,
as
as
mentioned
previously,
we've
started
that
engagement.
We
started
that
engagement
with
some
folks
that
will
testify
today,
as
well
as
other
industries
who
may
not
be
represented
in
today's
testimony.
C
We've
asked
the
commerce
department
to
convene
that,
but,
as
previously
committed
we'll
have
folks
from
the
health
department
from
the
mayor's
office
from
other
impacted
city
departments
participate
in
those
discussions.
We
want
to
hear
directly
from
businesses
about
their
ideas
and
how
they
can
operate
safely.
C
We
started
those
conversations
with
restaurant
operators
about
ventilation,
support
and
ways
that
they
could
allow
for
indoor
dining
with
improved
ventilation,
and
you
know
we
want
that
level
of
feedback,
we're
watching
what
happens
in
other
jurisdictions
in
other
countries
what's
happening
in
europe
as
they
ease
off
some
of
their
restrictions
and
what's
happened
in
other
areas
of
the
world
where
they've
seen
significant
mitigation
spread
places
like
australia,
new
zealand,
those
types
of
places,
so
you
know
we're
anxious
to
work
with
business
owners
here
about
how
they
can
how
they
can
reopen
safely,
but
we
are
still
operating
on
an
emergency
basis.
C
The
restrictions
that
we
implemented
in
november
would
be
was
because
of
a
growing
emergency,
specifically
around
hospitalizations
that
continues
today.
We
have
more
people
hospitalized
today
than
just
about
any
point
in
the
last
year,
except
for
the
very
peak
of
the
the
pandemic
back
in
late
april
early
may.
So
we
need
to
continue
to
work,
to
stop
the
spread
of
the
virus
and
to
limit
our
hospitalization,
so
our
hospitals
don't
become
overwhelmed,
but
there's
a
commitment
from
the
administration.
C
N
And-
and
I
think
we
all
agree
with
that
safety
first,
but
I
think
the
concentration
now
has
to
be
on
as
we
protect
people
and
make
safe.
We
have
to
also
parallel
be
looking
at
opening,
because
eventually
we're
going
to
be
opening
in
february
when
the
numbers
are
starting
to
go
down,
you're
going
to
start
having
openings
and
doing
things,
and
but
we
still
want
to
do
it
safely,
not
everybody's
going
to
have
a
vaccine.
N
So
I
mean
that's,
why
it's
important
to
do
this
and
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
that
is
happening.
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
this
hearing
is
happening
because
together,
I
think
we
could
come
up
with
a
way
to
do
this
and
and
sometimes
making
unilateral
decisions
and
not
hearing
input
from
everybody.
You
know
it's
overwhelming,
for
the
administration
and
for
the
health
department
to
come
up
with
those
things.
So
I
I
want
to
you
know
just
be.
N
I
guess
the
most
most
important
thing
is
to
each
industry
has
a
an
ability
to
represent
themselves
at
these
conversations,
and
so
we
could
hear
that
and
then
make
sure
that
as
we
roll
these
things
out,
we
start
to
monitor
the
numbers
we
stop
to
be
safe
and
to
make
sure
that
you
know
they
are
going
to
be
open,
smartly
and
safely.
And
then
again
I
think
that
councilmember
dom
had
said
this.
N
You
know,
there's
always
some
people
out
there,
no
matter
what
regulations
you
put
in
place
are
not
going
to
follow
those
guidelines
and
and
that's
something
we
need
to
enforce
and
to
be
very
engaging
on.
But
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
don't
want
to
throw
the
baby
out
with
the
bath
order,
and
you
want
to
make
sure.
G
N
We
do
this
in
in
a
way,
that's
smart,
safe
and
that
that
the
people
who
are
involved
in
these
businesses
there
is
accountability
for
that.
So
if,
if
you're
going
to
have
a
business
and
we're
going
to
operate
safely
but
you're
doing
the
wrong
thing,
then
there
are
consequences,
and
I
think
that's
important
also.
So
we
have
that
also
beside
having
these
policies
in
place.
N
We
need
to
also
have
what
the
restrictions
are
and
what
the
penalties
are
for,
not
following
those
policies,
and
if
we
do
that
and
people
know
it
that'll
be
easier
for
the
businesses
moving
forward,
so
hopefully
that'll
be
part
of
the
conversation.
Also.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
squeal
stay
well,
thank
you
and
I
think
our
next
next
up
is
councilmember
maria
canona
sanchez.
O
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
to
the
members
administration
and
I
personally
want
to
thank
everyone.
Who's
worked
incredibly
hard
under
really
difficult
situations
to
get
us
to
where
we
are.
Today.
I
have
a
couple
questions
from
rob:
deboe,
because
I
think
one
of
the
important
things
is
we
talk
about
a
smart
restart.
O
Is
there
were
some
industries
that
didn't
get
closed
and
are
doing
extremely
well,
as
council
member
bass
alluded
to
some
of
the
neighborhood
stores
and
others
are
we
seeing
that
level
of
activity
based
on
their
tax
returns,
but
the
big
I
think,
of
the
walmarts,
the
targets
and
all
those
others?
What
are
we
seeing
and
what
are
the
opportunities
that
exist
there
for
these
businesses?
Who've
managed,
you
know
to
have
empty
shelves
during
this
troubling
time.
O
O
I'm
saying
are
the
the
businesses
who've
not
been
shut
down
at
all
during
this,
the
essential
businesses,
as
we've
described
them
again,
the
big
stores,
the
walmarts,
the
targets
and
stuff?
Can
we
not
look
at
their
numbers
in
aggregate
to
see
if
the
activity
based
on
the
decisions
we're
making
about
who
stays
open
if
their
tax
returns
are
reflective
of
that
are
we
are
we
able
to
look
at
that.
O
O
As
you
know,
I'm
I'm
of
the
belief
that
these
big
multinationals
don't
pay
enough,
don't
pay
anything
sometimes
into
to
the
market
and
and
through
this
pandemic,
they've
they've
been
the
ones
who
really
have
benefited
from
our
health
policy
decisions
about
who
stays
open
and
who
doesn't,
and
so
I
just
think,
there's
an
opportunity
there
for
us
to
look
at
how
do
we,
as
in
a
smarter
restart?
How
do
we
not
penalize
some
of
our
locally
based
businesses
who
who
who
are
living
through
these?
O
You
know
very
localized
decisions
that
we're
making,
but
I
I
you
know
understand
we'll
work
with
you
is
is:
can
we
make
a
request
through
the
fiscal
stability
committee,
for
the
administration
to
look
at?
I
mentioned
this
before
in
our
last
meeting
january
1st
february,
1st
march.
1St
is
all
of
these
due
dates
for
businesses.
O
Can
the
administration
crunch
those
numbers
and
give
us
a
sense
of
what
are
some
of
the
due
to
the
cities
that
we
can,
as
as
you
guys
have
done
with
the
tr
with
the
trash
for
fuse
delay?
Are
there
other
pieces
of
the
business
component
that
we
could
be
looking
at
and
potentially
waving?
If
not,
you
know
delaying
payments
as
we
move
forward
in
january
february
and
march
sure.
J
O
J
O
There
are
sectors
where
we've
asked
folks
to
make
some
sacrifices
with
us.
I
can
think
of
the
housing
world
where
we've
asked
people
through
this
eviction
stuff
to
delay.
You
know
on
the
on
the
eviction.
You
know
what
rental
licenses,
what
fees
are
coming
up
due
date
for
those
sectors
that
are
hurting
that
that
we
can,
you
know
again
revisit
and
say:
can
we
wave
this?
Can
we
delay?
O
I
think
we
had
this
conversation
as
it
related
to
the
lead,
implementation
and
the
health
department
pushing
forth
the
lead
implementation
while
we're
asking
landlords
not
to
collect
rent.
So
I
think
I
think
you
know
and
again
it's
sort
of
like
there's
different
sectors.
We've
asked
them
to
share
in
some
of
the
pain
with
us.
What
can
we
as
government
do
to
facilitate
that
and
obviously
no
interest
in
penalties
during
this?
This
time
where
the
revenue
department
has
been,
you
know
very
cooperative,
but
more
than
that
is
telling
folks.
You
know
we.
O
We
understand
that
the
next
three
months
are
precarious,
where
we
have
a
shutdown.
What
other
things
can
we
be
looking
at
and
we
need
to
see
those
numbers
to
see
what
we
can
do?
One
of
my
concerns,
as
we
try
to
you,
know,
balance
out.
How
do
we
provide
businesses
support?
You
know
with
all
of
our
business
measures,
starting
from
our
first
three
portfolios
of
where
we
put
money
on
the
street.
You
know
we
want
to
be
equitable.
O
O
I
think
what
you're
going
to
hear
from
some
of
our
council
district,
as
you
have
heard,
from
councilman
bass,
we
have
folks
who,
just
you
know,
we've
told
them
to
apply
five
times
and
they're,
not
applying
anymore
right
and
sort
of
like
how
do
we
really
create
some
broad-based
relief
that
everybody
feels
and
is
more
equitable,
as
opposed
to
some
of
the
things
that
we've
done
up
to
now
and
if
you
guys
thought
a
little
bit
around
that
again
rent
a
license.
O
O
Okay
and
then
for
for
for
jim
angular,
I
think
again.
This
is
around
where
health
policy
and
finance
policy
come
to
meet
and
the
importance
of
of
the
mayor's
office
to
be
involved.
In
that
you
know,
we
want
departments
to
make
decisions
about
what
is
right,
not
because
of
what
they're
held
accountable
to
and
revenue
is,
is
one
of
those
numbers
where
you
know
whether
it's
l,
I
streets,
department,
all
of
those
things
you
know
it
is
it's
sometimes
unfair,
to
ask
these
departments
around
these
questions.
C
Sure
so,
we've
we've
had
those
discussions.
I
think
you've
seen
the
the
start
of
that
with
the
the
pushback
of
the
commercial
trash
fee
collection,
the
issues
around
uno
and
and
bert
to
the
finance
director's
point.
We
will
do
that.
I
will
continue
to
have
that
level
of
engagement
with
department
of
licenses
and
inspections
and
others.
C
I
think
that
for
for
a
number
of
the
departments
that
are
inspection
based
and
for
the
permits
that
are,
inspection
based
or
the
licenses
that
are
inspection
based,
it's
important
that
we
continue
to
get
that
information
to
your
point
about
the
waiving
of
the
fee.
That's
something
we
can
absolutely
look
at.
C
I
know
it's
important
for
l
I
to
continue
to
get
rental
suitability
licenses
in
so
we
can
do
our
housing
inspections
to
make
sure
the
housing
stock
is
safe
for
people
to
live
in,
but
you
have
the
commitment
of
the
the
mayor's
office
and
the
administration
to
continue
to
work
through
that
as
we
go
through
the
rest
of
this
fiscal
year
and
as
part
of
the
the
next
budget
cycle,
we
know
we're.
C
Gonna
have
to
continue
to
to
look
at
the
different
levers
that
we
have
to
to
better
support
these
businesses,
whether
it's
through
through
licensing
and
permitting
or
through
through
our
to
our
taxes
and
revenue.
So
you
know
we're
committed
to
that,
and
you'll
see
us
continue
to
engage
on
that
over
the
next
several
months.
O
Yeah,
I
mean
again,
I
know
we're
doing
the
best
we
can
with
what
we
have,
and
you
know
we
have.
You
know
small
arts
groups,
as
we
have
some
of
the
commercial
carter
piece
that
we're
all
very
concerned
about,
including
the
center
city
carter
of
you
know.
We
so
we've
done
several
different
initiatives.
We,
you
know
we
did
the
the
first
ones
that
you
know
the
loan,
the
five
thousand
twenty
five
thousand
dollar
grant.
Then
we
did
the
cdfi
one.
O
What
would
you
say
where
lessons
learned
that
you
know,
as
you
know,
we're
working
on?
You
know
how
do
we
put
this
next
relief
out
there
and
obviously
the
hospitality
industry
and
the
restaurant
business
being
one
of
the
places
where,
where
council
leadership
and
administration
are
working,
what
is
the
best
product
line?
What
what?
What
have
you
heard?
Where
have
we
missed
or
who
are
we
missing
or
who
has
been
missed
in
this
conversation
that
we've
that
the
administration
feel
needs
to
be
prioritized
as
we
move
forward.
C
So
I'll
let
let
dawn
speak
to
some
of
the
specific
lessons
learned
around
around
those
programs.
I
think
you
know
from
from
our
perspective
and
looking
at
the
federal
program
specifically
and
how
that
facilitated
and
made
its
way
down
to
businesses
or
didn't
make
its
way
down
to
businesses.
Here
I
think,
that's
a
that's
a
tremendous
missed
opportunity
and
the
fact
that
the
congress
is
about
to
double
down
on
that
is
another
missed
opportunity.
So
there's
there's
changes
that
we
can
make
there
for
our
dollars.
C
I
think
that
we
have
done
we've
done
a
good
job
trying
to
limit
the
paperwork.
Understand
that's
still
a
barrier
for
folks,
but
we
have
tried
to
be
very
intentional
about
limiting
that
paperwork.
C
So
it's
really
trying
to
find
some
synergies
there
where,
where
those
two
points
meet
but
I'll
turn
it
over
to
dawn
to
talk
specifically,
because
I
think
we
have
iterated
throughout
this
process
on
the
business
the
business
loan
and
grant
side
and
on
the
rental
assistant
side
in
really
tremendous
ways
that
will
help
us
improve
the
way
we
operate
going
forward.
D
Yes,
thank
you
councilmember
sanchez,
I
think,
or
no
some
of
the
challenges
that
we've
seen
is
to
ensure
that
we're
not
creating
layers
of
bureaucracy
when
we're
trying
to
get
dollars
out
to
the
street.
D
I
think
a
lot
of
the
businesses,
the
small
businesses,
have
been
very
appreciative
of
the
support
the
grants
that
they
received,
that
we
did
not
try
to
attempt
to
make
those
dollars
restrictive
to
what
they
needed
them
for
whether
or
not
it
was
to
secure
employees
whether
or
not
it
was
to
pay
rent
to
get
merchandise
in
for
them
to
allow
them
to
pivot
during
the
pandemic,
and
that
is
something
for
the
next
round
of
dollars
going
out
that
I
I
think
we
need
to
be
mindful
of,
and
intentional
of
councilman
jones
talked
about
the
lack
of
insurance
coverage.
D
That
has
been
a
challenge
council
member
richardson,
you
know,
spoke
to
making
sure
that
dollars
were
coming
going
out
to
the
street.
I
think
our
collaboration
again
with
the
health
department,
our
collaboration
with
revenue,
just
taking
a
look
at
what
the
needs
are
of
the
businesses
and
how
we
can
support
them.
D
They
don't
want
restrictions
if
we're
supplying
a
grant.
They
want
to
be
able
to
use
that
money
to
support
and
keep
their
business
going,
and
I
think
that
is
the
best
thing
we
can
take
a
look
at
whether
or
not
it's
the
licensing,
whether
or
not
it's
you
know
them
being
able
to
pay
rent
whatever.
That
is.
We
need
to
be
able
to
support
these
businesses
to
keep
them
moving
forward
without
a
layer
of
bureaucracy
on
top
of
them
going
through
the
process
for
application.
O
Thank
you,
and
I
again,
you
know
no
one
wants
to
be
kind
of
told
how
to
spend
their
money
because
they're
making
day-to-day
decisions.
As
our
you
know,
our
residents
right,
who
make
day-to-day
decisions
about
food
and
what?
What
they're
going
to
do
with
the
first
profile-
and
I
know
we're-
we've-
asked
the
commerce
department
for
some
data
to
share
with
leadership.
You
know
we
had
10
000,
plus
applications
about,
even
with
all
of
the
different
supports
about
6
000
of
those
were
still
unfunded.
O
What
is
the
profile
of
the
small
business
that
we've
missed
in
in
commerce's
view
that
we've
missed
and
not
had
the
ability
to
have
access
to
either
they
didn't,
have
access
to
our
process
or
that
we
don't
see
significant
in
the
profile
of
those
neighborhood-based
businesses
that
we
want
to
support.
D
I
want
to,
I
believe
we
had
a
good
round
of
like
restaurants.
We've
had
a
good
round
of
like
small
professional
service
businesses.
We've
had
a
couple
of
manufacturers,
I
believe
we
we've
covered.
The
gamut.
D
I
think
who
we
did
miss
was
those
who
did
not
have
a,
I
want
to
say,
a
footprint
of
business
activity
in
the
city,
so
they
didn't
have
tax
records
that
were
readily
prepared,
either
their
fault
or
not
their
fault,
and
that
comes
to
like
technical
support
that
we're
providing
for
those
businesses
to
get
prepared
for
next
opportunities.
D
We
were
very
intentional
about
who
we
were
targeting
this
to.
We
were
targeting
to
small
businesses,
not
the
larger
corporations
that
could
sustain
themselves
and
that
have
lobbying
efforts
already
in
place,
but
those
businesses
that
were
whether
or
not
on
the
corridors,
the
apparel
stores,
the
sneaker
stores
on
the
end
of
the
independent
mom-and-pop
grocery
stores.
D
Those
are
the
ones
that
we
were
targeting
for
support
and
in
this
next
round,
as
we
take
a
look
at
the
restaurant
industry
once
again,
the
gems
and
some
of
the
other
sectors
that
have
been
named
here
today,
that
will
be
the
focus
for
the
next
round
of
efforts.
O
And
then,
lastly,
some
neighborhoods
were
hit
more
than
other,
with
others
with
the
social
unrest
and
the
looting.
How
have
some
of
these
supports
helped
some
of
those
business
directly
impacting
impacted
by
the
looting
and
is
there
a
portfolio
of
those
types
of
businesses
that
we
were
able
to
get
to?
Who
had?
You
know
twice
the
challenges
they
had
pandemic
and
then
they
had
the
the
social
unrest
and
the
looting
that
impacted
their
business.
D
Those
business
again
commerce
department
went
out
met
the
needs
of
many
of
those
businesses
by
supply
providing
support.
We
also
know
a
long
coordination
that
we've
done
with
a
lot
of
the
corridor
managers
along
52nd
street,
which
was
severely
hit
a
lot
of
those
businesses.
Some
of
many
that
were
burned
down
had
insurance
in
place.
Some
of
them
did
not,
so
we've
been
coordinating
with
our
support
efforts
through
business
associations
and
cdcs
and
partnering
with
them
to
help
stabilize
those
businesses
or
in
their
communities.
O
D
Has
there
has
not
been
direct
grants
there
were
support
coming
through
connecting
them
or
connecting
them
back
into
talking
to
our
support
for
small
business
through
the
cdc's
or
working
with
52nd
street,
for
instance.
So
there
was
a
operation
there
that
was
burnt
down.
There
was
a
support
or
asian
store
that
was
burned
down
and
they
received
some
support
from
52nd
street
to
help
clean
up
to
help
board
up.
But
this
city
is
working
continues
to
work
with
those
organizations
to
figure
out
next
rounds
of
support
as
well.
O
O
You
know,
plans
that
are
thought
out
about
how
they
can
open
up
in
a
healthy
way
to
to
survive,
and-
and
you
know,
as
long
as
we
remain
open
to
that-
that
everything's
on
the
table
and
how
we
do
this,
I
I
think
we
can
do
both,
and
so
I
appreciate
everybody's
willingness
to
stick
in
here
today
and
and
get
get
us
to
a
better
place.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
sanchez
and
now
good
afternoon,
councilmember.
Oh,
I
know
you
had
some
questions.
A
A
But
we
can
come
back
to
council
member-
oh
maybe
there's
some
technical
issues
there.
So
I
want
to
thank
the
administration.
P
All
right,
thank
you
very
much,
chairman
dom.
I
am
having
connectivity
issues
again,
so
I'm
just
gonna
keep
my
video
camera
off.
I
hope
you
can
hear
me.
A
P
Okay,
so
so
I
do
have
a
question
I'll
just
state
at
the
beginning
that
you
know
I
do
meet
with
small
businesses
that
I
don't
think
meet
with
the
city.
P
I
think
there
are
small
businesses
and
businesses
that
have
an
ability
to
meet
with
the
city
through
whatever
existing
mechanisms
there
are,
but
but
I
generally
hear
from
angry
angry
businesses
all
across
the
city,
every
different
type
of
ethnic
group
angry
upset
and
they
have
no
ability
to
access
the
city
and
the
money,
and
I
appreciate
the
efforts
on
the
money
is
minimal.
P
You
know
the
the
application
process
is
very
difficult
and
as
soon
as
people
begin
to
apply
for
the
money,
the
money's
gone
and
and
and
it
is
what
the
city
can
do-
you
know,
but
I
I
want
to
assure
those
people
listening
who
have
spoken
to
me,
that
I
understand
that
the
money
is
not
accessible
to
them
and
so
the
idea
that
we're
we
do
the
best
we
can,
but
it's
nowhere.
P
P
I
won't
even
say
near
it's
it's
nowhere
close
to
the
parking
lot
of
the
ballpark
of
what
these
businesses
need,
so
so
getting
past
that
what
I'm
going
to
ask
is-
and
I
know
dr
farley
has
left-
but
I'm
going
to
ask
the
administration
if
we
are
going
by
science
and
data
and
I
believe
we're
trying
to.
P
Can
someone
explain
to
me
if
we're
going
by
the
cdc
study
and-
and
there
are
more
extensive
studies
out
there-
that
will
only
further
confirm
these
issues.
But,
according
to
the
cdc
study
that
we
seem
to
refer
to,
there
is
no
statistical
increase
in
risk
for
people
to
use
public
transportation
and
to
go
shopping.
P
If
you
go
to
a
gym
and
many
people
have
said,
including
medical
people
that
you
need
exercise
and
gyms
are
safe,
partly
because
these
are
all
regulated
industries
in
the
sense
that
they
have
to
comply
with
inspections.
Things
like
that
or
that
by
the
clientele
that
they
have.
In
other
words,
people
who
go
to
gyms
are
very
healthy
people
and
they
don't
want
to
go
to
a
dirty
gym
and
get
sick.
Very
similarly,
people
go
eat
out
at
restaurants.
P
It's
highly
regulated
and
a
restaurant
does
not
want
someone
to
get
sick
or
have
bad
food
or
food
poisoning.
In
any
sense,
you
know
certainly
the
ones
that
are
complying
with
all
the
regulations
and
cdc.
P
So
so
I'd
like
to
understand
what
is
the
difference
with
this
cdc
report,
because
when
we,
when
we
close
off
people
to
go
into
places
that
they
go
to,
that
are
not
of
increased
risk,
they
do
stay
home,
staying
home
and
congregating
without
all
the
regulations,
the
cleanliness,
the
inspections,
the
social
distancing
required
there.
That's
where
people
are
also
getting
very
sick.
They
are
have
an
increased
risk
of
covet.
P
19
we've
seen
that
in
new
york,
where
the
very
people
who
will
not
go
out
their
home,
that
kind
of
lock
their
doors,
they're
they're
they're
the
people
that
were
getting
sick
with
coke
at
19.
and
I'm
not
endorsing
anything
like
you
know
we
should
be
out
and
about
what
I'm
saying
is
I'd
like
to
to
understand
so
that
people
can
have
trust
in
this
process.
P
How
we're
distinguishing
one
thing
in
a
cdc
report
from
another
thing-
and
I
think
that's
important,
and
I'm
going
to
give
the
administration
a
chance
to
to
answer
this
question,
because
what
is
not
said
but
which
I
very
much
believe
is
there's
a
absolute
strong
correlation
between
unemployment,
poverty
and
health
risks
of
all
sorts,
including
token
19.
P
P
C
Thank
you,
councilmember.
Just
a
a
couple
points
in
response.
I
know
dr
farley
unfortunately
had
to
run
to
another
engagement.
I
would
I
would
start
off
by
saying.
I
think
that
if
there
are
businesses
that
are
engaging
with
you,
they
are
in
fact
engaging
with
the
city.
C
So,
if
there's
feedback
that
you
have
from
those
meetings
that
you'd
like
to
share
with
the
operating
departments
with
the
the
mayor's
office
with
the
administration,
you
know
we're
happy
to
take
that
and
I
think
the
engagement
that
our
business
owners
have
with
all
their
district
council
members
and
their
at-large
council
members
is
crucial
and
we
want
to.
We
want
to
get
that
feedback
in
addition
to
what
they
can
deliver
directly
to
the
administration.
C
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
cdc
study
that
you
specifically
represent
when
we,
when
we
discussed
the
restrictions
for
the
for
the
city
of
philadelphia,
we
looked
at
certain
kinds
of
activity,
certain
kinds
of
activity
that
would
either
allow
for
people
to
come
in
contact
with
other
people
who
were
not
from
the
same
household
or
would
conduct
activity.
That
would
either
be
highly
aerobic
in
nature,
which
can
spread
additional
droplets
and
activity.
That
would
happen
unmasked.
C
So
that's
where
we
targeted
our
restrictions,
I'm
not
certain
to
your
point
around
retail
establishments.
What
we
did
was
restrict
the
capacity
of
retail
establishments.
We
did
not
require
that
retail
establishments
close
regardless
of
their
size
with
the
latest
rounds
of
restrictions.
So
I
don't.
C
I
don't
understand
that
that
specific
that
specific
point,
but
we
are
trying
to
balance
with
this
latest
round
of
restrictions
that
I
think
that
the
governor
acknowledged
in
in
putting
additional
restrictions
statewide
that
are
substantially
similar
to
what
we
implemented,
that
we
really
tried
to
target
the
most
the
most
dangerous
activity,
the
the
activity
that
we
think
has
the
the
highest
likelihood
of
possible
spread
of
the
virus
and
and
could
cause
cause
the
highest
amount
of
spread.
And
that's
where
we
tried
to
mitigate.
P
I
appreciate
that,
and
I
appreciate
you,
jim
engler.
You
are
always
a
gentleman
and
a
great
representative
of
this
city,
so
I
I
will
say,
listen.
My
my
concern
is,
for
example,
that
anecdotally,
I
would
agree
with
you,
but
but
data
wise.
The
data
is
not
what
I
would
expect,
for
example,
in
addition
to
the
cdc
report,
because,
let's
say
gyms,
that's
a
typical
thing
right:
sweating,
breathing
sharing
equipment.
P
All
of
them,
you
know
range
from
no
risk
to
you
know
a
minimal
minimal
risk,
far
less
than
the
average
person
living
in
the
united
states,
for
whatever
reason
that
is,
and
I'm
not
trying
to
promote
the
use
of
gyms.
What
I'm
saying
is
that
I'd
like
to
understand
that,
as
opposed
to
what
I
may
imagine
if
the
data
says
and
shows-
and
these
studies
show
that
you
know
it's
not
happening
in
certain
industries.
P
You
know
the
cdc
study
that
is
being
referred
to
looked
at
314
people
160,
who
tested
positive
154
who
tested
negative
and
they
asked
them
a
series
of
questions.
These
are
in
10
states,
nowhere
near
us
and
there
was
no
contact
tracing.
It
was
just
a
question
and
as
twice
as
likely
that
the
people
who
tested
positive
in
the
two
weeks
prior
to
them
feeling
ill
had
eaten
outside
of
their
homes
that
you
know
now,
that's
a
actual
data
fact.
P
So
so
I'm
fine
with
that,
but
it
wasn't
contact
tracing
it
wasn't
here
and
to
my
knowledge,
when
we're
looking
at
contact,
tracing
and
data,
which
I
think
is
a
little
problematic
in
pennsylvania,
we
would
be
able
to
go
back
to
which
restaurant
or
which
street,
what
location,
that's
what's
happening
in
australia
in
in
in
in
countries
that
have
really
defeated.
You
know
the
risk
of
covid
the
contact
tracing
and
what
they
do:
door-to-door
delivery
door-to-door.
P
They
are
doing
that
we're
not
doing
that
in
this
country
overall,
but
when
we
do
kind
of
like
wholesale
kind
of
like
you
know,
it
anecdotally
sounds
correct.
That's
that's!
When
it's
it's
troubling
to
me,
because
the
unintended
consequence
may
be
increased
risk
and
more
covid
19,
as
opposed
to
less.
C
Sure
so
I
think
to
your
to
your
point.
Around
studies
there's
also
a
study
out
of
out
of
yale
university
that
looked
at
restrictions,
county-based
restrictions
and
contiguous
county-based
restrictions
and
those
that
are
most
likely
to
reduce
the
case
counts
and
reduce
the
spread
of
the
virus,
and
they
did
center
on
a
number
of
a
number
of
specific
industries,
including
gyms
and
restaurants.
As
when
those
closures
happened,
there
were
significant
reductions
in
the
transmission
of
the
virus.
Back
to
another.
C
Earlier
point
that
you
made,
I
do
think
that
we
take
very
seriously
the
social
determinants
of
health
and
their
impact
on
on
the
overall
well-being
of
our
our
residents.
So
to
your
point,
around
higher
incidence
of
of
mental
illness
and
addiction
and
those
that
are
either
facing
unemployment
or
or
business
closures.
C
Because
of
this,
we
take
that
very
seriously
want
to
get
support
to
those
that
are
that
are
suffering
from
that
and
and
want
to
overall
support
our
residents
through
what
is
incredibly
difficult
time,
whether
it's
being
separated
from
friends
or
family
or
just
from
society
generally.
So
I
think
we
take
that
very
seriously.
C
We've
tried
to
be
very
targeted
in
the
restrictions
that
we
impose
understanding
that
you
know
that
targeting
may
impact
businesses
that
have
been
operating
to
their
to
their
best
of
their
ability
very
very
safely,
but
we
know
how
respiratory
viruses
spread.
The
health
department
is
very
skilled
at
at
figuring
out
how
respiratory
viruses
spread
and
we've
targeted
those
industries
that
we
think
are
the
highest
risk
for
spreading
a
respiratory
virus
like
cova-19
we've
seen
some
early
success
in
that.
C
If
you
look
at
our
at
our
data
compared
to
the
commonwealth
overall,
when
we
imposed
our
restrictions,
we
actually
started
going
down
at
a
much
faster
rate,
while
the
commonwealth
was
continuing
to
go
up
and
our
rate
of
increase,
since
the
really
the
thanksgiving
spike
of
cases
has
been
at
a
slower
rate
than
the
commonwealth
overall.
So
we're
seeing
some
of
the
benefits
of
that
in
our
case,
count
on
our
slowed
hospitalizations.
C
A
Thank
you,
councilmember,
oh,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
administration
for
being
here
today
and
for
your
ongoing
oversight
of
our
city's
health
and
safety,
and
we
hope
this
is
the
start
of
more
discussions
about
the
data
policies
and
we're
also
going
to
hear
a
lot
of
testimony
this
afternoon
from
people
in
the
business,
and
I
hope
we
have
an
open
mind
to
figure
out
how
we
can
have
that
hopeful
middle
ground,
where
we
can
maybe
have
some
sort
of
a
safe
restart
of
our
economy.
B
All
right
on
our
second
panel,
we
have
lauren
gilchrist
ben
filicia,
mike
palermo
and
nicole
marquis,
who
I
believe
will
be
testifying.
First.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
In
the
spirit
of
time
I
know
you've
been
very
patient.
Thank
you.
If
you
can
keep
your
verbal
testimony
to
around
two
minutes
that
that's
possible,
we
know
you've
submitted
written
testimony
and
that's
great.
So,
let's
start
with,
I
believe,
nicole
marquis.
First.
Q
Yes,
good
morning
or
good
afternoon,
city,
council
and
the
members
of
the
city
administration,
thank
you
from
the
bottom
of
our
hearts,
for
all.
You
are
doing
to
try
to
keep
our
residents
safe
and
keep
our
businesses
running
during
the
most
challenging
times
imaginable,
and
thank
you
for
giving
us
a
seat
at
the
table.
Now.
Q
Thank
the
philly
restaurants
coalition
is
relieved
to
be
meeting
with
the
mayor's
office,
commerce
and
health
department
each
week.
I
know
some
of
you
have
heard
some
of
my
impact
statement
before,
but
since
we
met
last
week,
things
are
more
dire
for
our
industry.
In
our
city
we
have
lost
more
restaurants
and
we
are
more
desperate
for
any
kind
of
assistance.
Q
Q
Yesterday
I
spoke
to
one
of
my
employees
vance,
who
has
been
one
of
my
dishwashers
for
four
years.
He
called
me
because
he
was
upset
because
he
doesn't
understand.
Why
he's
not
on
the
schedule
this
week,
I
had
to
console
him
the
mental
and
emotional
trauma
of
being.
Let
go
from
work
again
without
any
certainty
of
support
from
the
city,
state
or
federal
government
is
devastating.
Q
Q
These
philly
restaurants,
the
coalition
representing
over
250
restaurants
and
bars
in
the
philadelphia
area
we
employed
tens
of
thousands
of
fellow
philadelphia
citizens,
we've
seen
millions
of
dollars
in
city
taxes
in
here,
and
we
are
a
major
part
of
philadelphia's
role
as
a
national
tourist
destination.
We
are
essential
businesses
in
that
we
feed
philadelphia.
Q
We
have
joined
together
during
the
coven
19
pandemic,
to
fight
for
our
safety,
for
our
employees
and
customers,
the
livelihoods
and
well-being
of
our
staff
and
vendors,
and
to
prevent
more
of
our
fellow
business
owners
from
closing
their
doors
forever.
Because
of
the
unique
and
crushing
challenges
presented
by
this
time.
We
believe
we
can
effectively
protect
the
public
in
our
venues
while
preserving
the
essential
restaurant
industry
in
philadelphia.
Q
We
recognize
the
gravity
of
the
situation
and
we
take
our
responsibility
very
seriously
as
essential
businesses
who
are
feeding
the
public
and
providing
jobs
and
tax
dollars.
We
support
the
cdc
guidelines
and
we
realize
the
most
important
thing
for
our
health
and
our
economy
is
to
get
this
virus
under
conformed.
We
all
have
a
vaccine.
Q
I
have
seen
the
devastating
effects
of
this
virus
firsthand
from
dear
friends,
family
members
who
have
passed
away
from
coved
and
carrying
my
lifelong
friend,
who
is
a
nurse,
saw
as
he
talked
about
intubating
10
people.
In
a
single
day,
I
have
seen
the
fear
on
my
parents
faces
when
someone
you
know
was
diagnosed,
and
I
desperately
want
to
keep
my
son's
abuelos
safe
and
helpful,
but
have
no
doubt
without
urgent
and
dramatic
action
from
the
federal
government,
the
city
and
state
governments.
Q
Q
The
unintended
consequences
of
these
new
restrictions
to
push
more
gatherings
into
people's
homes,
which
is
inherently
riskier
as
social
distancing
and
serving
protocols,
aren't
known
or
enforced
in
private
homes
and
is
more
closely
tied
to
an
increased
infection
rates
than
is
restaurant
dining.
These
restrictions
from
philadelphia
businesses
are
effectively
killing
more
businesses,
while
potentially
sickening
more
of
our
fellow
residents.
Q
Q
Q
The
science
indicated
the
science
indicates
that
indoor
spaces
can
be
made
safe
with
appropriate
air
handling.
Technology
studies
have
shown
that
modern
hvac
equipment,
which
provides
10
or
more
air
exchanges
per
hour
with
features
that
can
actually
filter
and
kill
the
virus
are
available
and
relatively
affordable.
Q
Q
It
is
interesting
and
ironic
that
the
studies
being
widely
cited
now
to
support
imposing
new
restaurant
operating
restrictions
actually
support
the
position
that
restaurants
can
operate
safely.
The
settings
and
the
data
actually
indicate
that
dining
at
restaurants
has
not
been
a
material
source
of
covet
spread.
For
example,
the
recent
study
we
saw
from
new
york
from
new
york
showed
that
1.4
of
coveted
pieces
can
be
traced
to
indoor
dining
at
restaurants
and
bars
over
several
months,
and
that
is
without
any
air
quality
improvements
in
place.
Q
Other
national
studies
indicate
that
up
to
55
of
cases
in
other
cities
were
traced
to
visits
to
large
retailers,
focusing
on
closing
restaurants,
only
1.4
of
virus
cases,
thereby
encouraging
people
to
obtain
food
by
visiting
large
retailers
up
to
55
percent
of
cases
or
to
gather
more
frequently
in
private
homes.
Up
to
74
percent
of
virus
cases
makes
no
sense
from
a
scientific
or
statistical
standpoint
that
is
50
times
more
cases
from
private
gatherings
than
from
restaurants
and
bars.
Q
Restaurants
can
be
made
safe
with
social
distancing
and
the
proper
hvac
equipment,
and
this
could
prevent
some
of
the
current
business
closures
and
layoffs.
We
see
ourselves
as
good
faith
partners
with
you
and
we
realize
we
all
have
the
same
goals:
public
safety
and
the
preservation
of
our
jobs
and
businesses
in
our
beautiful
city.
Q
Q
The
limits
that
were
in
place
before
the
new
restrictions
were
issued,
we're
logical
and
we
definitely
agree
with
them.
We
don't,
though,
believe
the
new
limitations
have
public
health
benefit
and
they
are
very
difficult
to
enforce
and
have
already
severely
limited.
Our
ability
to
earn
revenue
from
outdoor
dining,
outdoor,
dining
groups
of
six
or
less
social
distancing
is
an
inherently
safe
activity.
Q
Number
two:
we
oppose
any
blanket
announcement
that
our
establishments
cannot
sell
alcohol
after
a
certain
time
in
the
holidays.
This
is
devastating
to
our
businesses
and
we
want
to
be
able
to
capture
some
evening
sales
on
popular
dining
holidays,
including
selling
alcohol
at
outdoor
tables
and
cocktails
to
go.
Q
Fourth,
we
believe
that
the
city
should
consider
air
quality
science
when
deciding
if
indoor
dining
can
be
safely
permitted
by
establishing
appropriate
standards
for
ventilation,
air
exchanges
and
indoor
air
quality.
The
studies
cited
cited
in
the
new
restrictions
are
not
looking
at
restaurants
with
enhanced
hvac,
hepa
filters,
uvc
lighting
and
other
technologies
that
kill
the
virus
and
other
protective
measures
in
place.
Technology
is
available
and
easily
accessible.
That
can
get
the
air
in
our
restaurants
as
clean
and
fresh
as
it
would
be
in
a
hospital
operating
room.
Q
We
ask
that
you
work
with
us
begin
now
and
january
1st
to
develop
science-based
air
standards
to
return
to
25
or
greater
indoor
dying
capacity.
As
soon
as
it
is
possible
number
five,
the
city
should
shut
down
more
streets
to
traffic
seven
days
a
week.
Restaurants
can
do
all
they
can
to
keep
staff
employed,
drive
revenue
and
serve
customers
outside.
This
is
already
being
done
on
18th
street,
with
the
reduced
traffic
and
increased
need
for
outdoor
seating.
Q
And
lastly,
give
restaurants
immediate
grants
to
winterize
their
outdoor
spaces.
Restaurants
should
be
eligible
for
grants
of
10,
000
or
more
per
location
to
equip
our
spaces
for
these
new
restrictions
and
to
help
us
make
it
to
the
spring
time
is
running
out
and
january.
1St
is
around
the
corner
and
we
need
a
plan.
A
R
Thank
you
so
much
councilmember
dom
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
here
to
cover
some
of
the
charts
that
are
included
in
my
written
testimony.
Are
you
able
to
see
it.
A
R
R
Council,
my
name
is
lauren
gilchrist
and
I'm
the
senior
vice
president
for
research
at
jll
in
philadelphia,
and
also
the
current
chapter
president
for
nav.
Greater
philadelphia
jl
is
a
global
commercial.
Real
estate
services
firm
around
the
world
and
naop
is
a
professional
organization
for
commercial
real
estate
developers.
R
Thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
testify,
regarding
our
findings
of
our
recently
released
report
on
retail
center
city
retail,
how
philadelphia's
walnut
and
chestnut
street
corridors
will
navigate
covet
19..
This
report
examines
how
we
got
to
our
current
state
and
our
high
street
retail
corridor,
what
the
impact
to
retailers
and
the
market
has
been
and
what
the
path
forward
looks
like.
R
This
stunning
trend
exacerbated
already
prevalent
trends
in
declining
in-store
sales
caused
by
the
effects
of
e-commerce,
which
comprised
about
11.8
percent
of
all
u.s
retail
sales
prior
to
the
pandemic
and
now
make
up
16.1
percent
of
all
retail
sales.
So
this
first
chart
looks
at
two
retailers,
lululemon
and
nordstrom
rack,
and
we've
also
provided
data
in
the
testimony
for
apple
and
also
a
restaurant,
the
continental
midtown.
R
We
expect
that
center
city
has
lost
more
than
1
billion
and
I'll
repeat:
1
billion
in
retail
demand
this
year,
while
rebound
will
continue
to
occur
slowly
and
surely
over
the
next
12
months
by
this
time.
Next
year.
Our
estimates
suggest
that
2021
retail
demand
levels
will
only
be
about
50
of
what
they
were
pre
pandemic
or
639
million
in
the
downtown
versus
about
1.28
billion
in
2019..
R
R
You
can
see
you
know
that
certain
blocks
have
experienced
more
problems
than
others
and
chestnut's
occupancy
level
stands
at
about
77
over
the
same
span
abroad
to
19th
street
faring
a
little
bit
better
than
walnut
street
overall,
because
downtown
retails
so
heavily
dependent
on
commuting
office
workers
tracking
their
return
to
work
is
key
to
understanding
the
path
forward.
This
is
a
jll
estimate
that
we've
put
together.
We
would
estimate
that,
prior
to
the
pandemic,
about
10
of
all
workers
worked
from
home
during
the
pandemic.
R
We've
seen
more
workers,
obviously
work
from
home,
we'd
estimate
about
a
ten
percent
office
occupancy
level.
As
I
said
in
the
inquiry
of
the
butts
and
seats
phenomenon-
and
we
anticipate
that,
while
this
will
rebound,
there
will
be
lasting
effects,
jlo
estimates
overall
about
a
five
percent
decline
in
demand
for
office
space
by
2023.
R
R
R
This
chart
specifically
looks
at
our
projections
based
on
the
most
recent
health
restrictions
as
to
where
we
think
we
will
end
up
by
the
end
of
2021
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
So
you'll
see
that,
whereas
we
estimated
about
124
000
office
workers
in
the
downtown
in
february
2020,
we
believe
that
by
the
end
of
next
year,
we'll
only
see
about
a
hundred
and
seven
thousand.
R
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
this
afternoon.
I'd
be
happy
to
take
questions
now
or
at
the
end
of
the
panel.
A
G
Hey
good
afternoon,
everybody
thanks
for
having
us
today
in
in
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
in
the
beginning
of
the
year,
philadelphia
had
roughly
500
full-service
restaurants
or
operations.
G
Just
in
the
past
few
weeks,
we've
seen
50
permanent
restaurants,
permanent
restaurant
closures
and
over
a
hundred
restaurants
that
have
temporarily
closed
for
the
winter.
G
66
percent
of
the
remaining
restaurants
feel
that
it's
unlikely
that
they
will
be
in
business
in
six
months
without
an
additional
release
package
from
the
federal
government
currently
say
currently,
but
you
know
there
were
over
582
000
restaurant
jobs
in
pennsylvania,
many
of
them
in
philadelphia
which
is
10
of
the
employment
in
the
state,
but
the
second
largest
employer
91
of
operators,
since
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
have
had
to
lay
off
or
furlough
their
staff.
Many
of
those
people
are
still
out
of
work
right
now.
G
The
industry
desperately
needs
grants
to
help
bridge
the
gaps
until
restaurants
can
start
operating
at
a
100
percent
capacity.
Again,
the
seven
million
dollars
plus
minus
in
unspent
cares
dollars
that
the
city
has
would
be
a
really
good
start,
and
these
could
include,
but
are
not
limited
to
grants
to
upgrade
hvac
systems.
G
As
nicole
was
talking
about
grants
for
additional
ppp,
ppe
and
plexiglas
installation
grants
for
hazard
pay
for
employees,
you
know,
since
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
the
prla
has
taken
the
lead
and
we
are
thankful
to
philadelphia
city
council
for
working
with
the
proa
on
the
following
pieces
of
legislation,
bill
200574,
the
restaurant
eviction
and
financial
relief
bill
introduced
by
councilman
heenan,
which
provided
much
needed
relief
for
restaurants,
who
are
feeling
the
financial
burden
during
the
pandemic
build
two
zero,
zero,
four,
nine,
seven
and
four
nine
eight,
which
was
an
extension
for
outdoor
dining
and
street
closures
introduced
by
councilman,
dom
that
helps
streamline
the
closures
of
streets
and
out
outdoor
dining
for
many
restaurants,
also
bill
20034
introduced
by
councilwoman
parker,
which
helped
to
reon
the
third
party
delivery
companies
from
predatory
behavior.
G
G
G
These
conversations,
the
prla
and
the
council
members
office
had
led
directly
to
the
following
amending
the
uno
to
exempt
portions
of
the
restaurant
and
bars
used
for
indoor
dining
businesses
can
amend
their
birth
taxes
and
receive
funds
and
an
extension
on
the
refuse
fee.
G
So
we
are
thankful
for
those
council
members
who
sponsored
and
co-sponsored
these
pieces
of
legislation
and
look
forward
to
continue
working
together
to
help
our
restaurants
in
philadelphia,
try
to
survive
and
eventually
thrive.
So
thank
you
for
your
time
and,
of
course,
I'll
be
here
for
any
questions.
A
Thank
you
ben.
Thank
you
very
much
I'd
like
to
call
our
next
panelist,
which
is
michael
palermo
from
store.
Restaurants,.
J
I've
been
working
with
many
contractors
in
the
city
here
that
support
us
and
working
with
a
couple
architecture,
firms
and
I've
been
building
these
streeters
that
are
heated
and
covered
compliant
and
we've
been
working
with
the
health
department
to
make
sure
that
these
streeters
really
meet
all
the
coveted
guidelines
or
exceed
them.
J
It's
very
important
to
us
because
at
this
point
we've
built
12
of
them
in
the
city,
whether
you
see
them
at
park,
restaurants,
the
love
dandelion,
barkley,
pride
butcher
and
singer
buddha,
khan,
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
I
can
tell
you
I
I
mean
my
interaction
with
the
streets
department
and
the
building
department
has
been
quite
positive.
J
The
streamlined
process,
where
we're
able
to
get
municipal
approval
for
these
and
submit
our
building
plans
for
them
has
not
been
difficult.
Although
there's
a
little
bit
of
confusion
between
streets
and
l
and
I
on
you
know
kind
of
who's
approving
what
but
the
field
inspectors
for
ellen,
I
have
been
out
and
they
have
visited
us
as
well
as
the
health
department.
J
And
now
you
know,
they've
told
us
that
we
are
meeting
building
guidelines.
We
are
meeting
covet
guidelines,
so
that's
the
only
part,
that's
a
little
bit
confusing,
because
the
permits
actually
have
not
been.
You
know
issued
in
hand
from
the
building
department,
the
eclipse
system-
and
I
imagine
you
know,
going
through
covid
it's
a
little
bit
difficult
and
things
aren't
going
to
be.
You
know
as
quickly
coming
out
of
l
but
again
for
the
most
part,
our
experience
has
been
positive.
J
We've
worked
really
hard
to
make
sure
that
not
only
the
structures
are
coveted
friendly
for
the
public
and
our
staff,
but
also
that
we're
making
sure
that
there's
lighting
and
reflectors
and
that
the
structures
are
built
soundly
and
that
there's
enough
room
in
the
city,
streets
for
trash
trucks,
delivery,
trucks,
buses
and
so
on
and
so
forth
to
get
by.
J
And
you
know
we'll
continue
to
build
these
things,
as
as
we
get
approval,
we're
working
with
several
city
departments
right
now
to
get
13th
street
to
be
a
one-lane
road,
one-lane
traffic
road,
because
it's
difficult,
you
can't
build
on
in
a
traffic
lane
without
city
approval,
for
example,
on
18th
street.
J
We
worked
with
written
house
row
and
and
others
and
currently
18th
street
is
a
one-lane
road
from
locust
all
the
way
to
market,
and
it's
enabled
a
lot
of
restaurants
that
are
on
the
west
side
of
18th
street
to
build
and
the
restaurants
on
the
east
side
are
building
anyway,
because
that's
the
parking
lane
and
they've
gotten
approval
and
there's
a
nice
wide
12
foot
six
inch
lane
between
the
structures
that
enables
city
traffic
to
go
by
smoothly
without
incidents,
and
even
when
some
of
the
structures
are
too
close.
J
J
I
think
what
would
help
a
little
bit
is
some
signs
that
say
you
know
changing
the
speed
limit
on
some
of
these
one
lane
streets
from
25
miles
an
hour
to
15
miles
an
hour,
but
most
most,
you
know,
vehicular
traffic
see
these
things
and
they
slow
down.
Naturally,.
J
The
restaurants
that
are
near
us
and
around
us,
you
know
to
build
these
things
where
if
a
car
would
get
a
little
out
of
control,
that
they're
not
going
to
you
know,
endure
a
pedestrian
and
and
how
that's
done
is
with
good
lighting
and
lots
of
reflectors
and
people
slowing
down.
J
I
know
in
other
municipalities
where
we
operate.
Restaurants,
they're,
you
know,
making
you
put
a
barricade,
that's
filled
with
stone
or
sand.
J
But
so
far
there's
been
you
know,
no
accidents
no
harm,
but
it's
it's
in
the
front
of
star
restaurants,
mind
as
we
build
these
things
that
you
know
we're
saving
all
the
jobs
that
are
in
the
restaurants
and
we're
giving
the
public
a
chance
to
you
know
have
a
little
bit
of
a
break
for
an
hour
an
hour
and
a
half,
but
at
the
same
time
public
safety
is
important.
J
So
that's
my
little
experience
on
on
what
we've
been
doing
and
I
think
that
the
efforts
of
most
of
these
restaurants
have
truly
been
heroic,
bringing
in
the
summertime
bringing
heater,
umbrellas
and
tables
and
chairs
they
bring
them
inside
and
outside
every
night.
You
know
the
propane
heaters,
it's
a
it's
a
lot
of
extra
work
for
the
restaurants
and,
from
the
most
part.
M
J
And,
and
with
my
experience
that
experience
and
that
spirit
has
extended
to
our
interactions
with
the
philadelphia
government,
whether
it's
been
health
inspectors
or
or
l,
I
inspectors,
I
think,
all
in
all
we're
doing
a
pretty
good
job.
J
You
know
I'm
working
right
now
to
try
and
get
13th
street
to
be
a
one-lane
road
like
18th,
because
on
13th
street
there's
a
bunch
of
restaurants
on
the
east
side
of
13th,
then
there's
not
a
parking
lane,
namely
charlie,
was
the
our
restaurant
elves
zeo
pizzeria,
and
if
we
can
get
you
know
13th
street,
to
be
a
one-lane
road.
Then
I
know
what
elves
will
easily
save
40
jobs
and
and
probably
something
similar
at
zeo,
pizza
and
charlie
was
a
sinner.
But
that's
been
my
experience.
I
can
answer
any
questions.
A
Okay,
thank
you
michael
palermo.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
for
your
testimony.
I
have
a
few
questions.
I
want
to
start
out
asking
ben
filecchia
from
pennsylvania,
restaurant
and
lodging
association
nicole
marquis
from
save
philly
restaurants.
Have
you
both
worked
together
to
come
up
with
these,
I'm
going
to
call
it
the
smart
restart
of
how
restaurants
could
operate
smartly
going
forward
after
january
1st
and
have
you
met
with
the
commerce
department
and
the
health
department
in
order
to
see
if
we
can
get
everyone
on
the
same
page,.
Q
Thank
you.
We
will
meet
with
the
commerce
department
on
friday.
We're
really
pleased
that
we
have
what
is
looking
like
a
task
force
being
formed.
The
commerce
department's
been
very
helpful
in
that
regard.
Q
We
hope
to
meet
with
health
department
and
on
friday
we
will
talk
about
our
top
priority,
which
is
the
grants
that
are
potentially
coming
out
and
then
also
our
data
and
research
that
we
want
to
present
to
dr
farley
regarding
our
exchange,
there's
technology
and
there's
equipment
out
there
to
improve
air
exchange
through
restaurants,
so
that
we
do
have
a
plan
for
after
january
1st.
So
we
hope
that
that's
an
ongoing
weekly
meeting
and
we'll
set
our
priorities
on
friday
morning.
G
Sure
completely
agree
with
nicole,
you
know,
since
since
april
we
worked
with
each
different
division
of
the
industry
to
create
a
program.
That's
called
the
pennsylvania
restaurant
promise,
which
just
outlines
a
list
of
ways
that
restaurants
can
operate
safely.
Now,
looking
back
at
this,
you
know,
nine
months
later,
the
things
that
we
came
up
with
before
we
all
knew
what
was
happening
is
actually
working.
G
You
know
by
my
my
greatest
fear
and
it
has
been
realized
with
you
know,
with
every
you
know,
nicole
touched
on
this
earlier,
but
with
every
new
mitigation
order,
that's
come
down
against
the
restaurants.
We've
only
seen
an
increase
in
cases,
and
you
know,
as
nicole
said,
the
unintended
consequences
of
of
not
allowing
these
operators
to
do
things
as
safe
as
possible
is
forcing
you
know
our
residents
into
unsafe,
unregulated
places
where
we
know
social
gatherings
are
continuing
to
happen.
G
G
You
know
a
one
one
check
solution
here,
but
it
really
it's
really
frustrating.
As
somebody
who
grew
up
in
philadelphia
who
lives
in
philadelphia
right
now,
you
know
not
only
to
see
the
and
decimated
as
much
as
it
is,
but
to
see
the
mitigation
efforts.
Clearly
not
working.
G
G
When
you
see
so
many
people
doing
as
as
the
best
they
can
to
keep
their
employees
safe
and
to
keep
the
citizens
of
philadelphia
safe
and
you
know,
and
then
it
really
feels
like
you,
get
we're
getting
scapegoated
and
we're
being
called
the
bad
guys
and
listen.
It
is
riskier
behavior,
but
it's
less
risky
than
these
indoor
private
gatherings
that
we
see
you
know
I
live
in
an
apartment
building
at
broad
and
broader
washington,
friday
and
saturday
nights,
there's
parties
in
a
lot
of
the
rooms
here
where
I
knew
you
know.
G
If
the
mitigation
efforts
weren't
in
effect,
these
places,
you
know
these
citizens
would
be
out
having
their
social
gatherings
in
a
in
a
space
where
there's
people
that
are
enforcing
mass
wearing
social
distancing
contact,
tracing
no
seat
no
service.
These
things
work.
We
know
these
things
work,
and
you
know
we
just
really
like
to
get
get
back
on
track
in
the
safest
way
possible.
A
Because
I
mean,
I
think,
one
of
the
main
goals
today,
council
members
will
discuss
this
and
sort
of
many
of
my
colleagues
is,
you
know
you
know
the
industry
better
than
any
of
us
know
it.
So
we're
we're
asking
you
to
collaborate
with
our
commerce
department,
our
health
department,
and,
let's
figure
this
out.
We
want
to.
We
all
want
the
same
goal.
We
want
it
to
do
be
safe,
but
we
also
don't
want
to.
You
know,
destroy
our
economy.
We
want
to
do
it
in
a
safe
way.
A
So
on
friday,
hopefully
you'll
come
up
with
solutions.
I
would
like
to
see
you
come
up
with
solutions
on
friday
and
try
to
get
those
approved,
so
we
can
give
people
advanced
notice
who
are
in
business,
so
they
know
what's
coming
down
the
pike,
because
on
friday,
is,
I
guess,
december
18th
and
we're
what
12
14
days
away
from
what's
happening
in
the
city.
So
I'm
glad
you're
meeting
on
friday.
Let's
try
to
set
a
goal
that
we
come
out
of
that
meeting
with
solutions
on
how
we're
going
to
move
forward.
Q
Yes,
council,
council,
member
ellen,
I
think,
as
soon
as
I
think
that
this
is
not
you're
right.
It's
not
safety
versus
economics.
We
can
operate
safely
and
I
think
we
we
completely
agree
with
dr
farley
that
operating
a
restaurant
as
we
did
the
pre-trend
is
not
safe.
It
would
not
be
safe
at
all,
but
we
need
to
discuss
how
and
what
are
we
going
to
decide
on
moving
forward
based
on
science
and
data
so
that
we
can
operate
and
function
our
businesses.
A
Okay,
that's
great.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
for
your
testimony.
They
have
a
question
for
lauren
gilchrist
from
jll
lauren
give
a
very
good
presentation,
which
is
very,
very
powerful,
and
I
guess
my
question
is
some
of
this:
the
closures
that
were
caused
by
the
pandemic,
especially
the
retail
sector,
not
the
restaurant
sector,
but
the
retail
sector
they
were
advanced.
They
already
were
kind
of
on
a
tipping
point.
A
You
know
with
the
internet,
they
were
advanced
dramatically
by
the
pandemic
and
I
guess
one
of
the
challenges
for
us
in
the
city
is:
how
do
we
reimagine
this
new
space?
That's
going
to
come
on
the
market
across
the
city
and
from
the
city's
perspective,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
these
spaces
get
occupied
and
people
have
that
opportunity
to
have
that
space
full
versus
vacant.
What
are
some
of
the
ideas
that
might
be
out
there
that
these
spaces
can
get
reimagined
into.
R
Well,
the
first
thing
I
would
say
is
that
we
had
already
begun
to
see
a
little
bit
of
a
shift
to
omni-channel
retail
strategies
and
with
some
of
the
providers
like
a
bonobos,
for
example,
who
have
essentially
a
showroom,
and
then
you
kind
of
walk
in
and
you
try
on
their
goods
and
then
you,
you
know
essentially
order
them
online
and
have
them
shipped
to
your
home.
So
we,
I
do
think
we'll
see
ongoing
increases
in
that
type
of
retailer.
What
I
would
say,
though,
is
the
natural
evolution
of
cities.
R
You
know
if
we
kind
of
turn
back
to
jane
jacobs
in
the
literature
is
that
cities
go
through
cycles
and
one
of
the
cycles
that
will
occur
as
a
result
of
these
dramatic
vacancy
rates,
there's
a
decline
in
rents
overall
and
when
rents
decline.
You
know
you
create
new
opportunities
for
new
entrepreneurs
specifically
to
move
into
those
spaces.
They
may
not
have
had
the
ability
to
do
so
before
because
the
rent
was
too
high.
R
So
I
would
strongly
encourage
the
city
to
think
about
how
they
can
lower
the
barriers
to
entry
for
doing
business
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
R
Whether
that
is
with
permitting
or
whether
that
is
with
technical
expertise
or
whether
that
is
in
what
we
choose
to
tax
and
how
we
tax
it
in
order
to
be
able
to
you
know
not
only
encourage
you
know
those
new
opportunities
through
lower
costs
in
the
form
of
lower
rents
for
a
period
of
time,
but
also
to
be
able
to
create
a
broad-based
access
to
what
was
and
what
will
again
be
the
nexus
of
the
majority
of
consumer
demand
in
philadelphia.
A
So
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
you
say
lauren
is
that
some
of
these
spaces
will
be
reimagined
with
possibly
lower
rents,
which,
from
a
city
perspective,
I
guess
will
mean
that
we
might
have
lower
assessments,
which
then
means
we
might
have
to
really
look
at
this
and
say
that
means
lower
real
estate
taxes
on
the
commercial
end
for
the
city
and
that's
something
we
probably
really
have
to
give
a
lot
of
thought
to
and
figure
out
how
that's
going
to
work
out.
Is
there
any?
A
Is
there
any
ideas
on
how
to
bring
vitality
back,
not
just
in
center
city,
but
I'm
talking
about
even
to
the
neighborhoods
of
52nd
market
or
a
germantown
avenue
right
by
erie,
and
what
can
those
neighborhoods
do
to
bring
vitality
back?
In
your
opinion,
you're
pretty
you're
considered
an
expert
in
this
area,
so
I
want
to
tap
into
your
mind
and
see
if
we
get
some
ideas.
R
Sure
so
you
know
I
talked
a
lot
about
the
business
community
and
how
the
loss
of
office
workers
downtown
specifically
has
resulted
in
a
significant
loss
of
retail
demand.
But
what
we're
seeing
in
our
neighborhoods
shift
a
little
bit
as
a
result
of
working
from
home
is
increasing
demand
in
those
commercial
corridors
and
we've
seen
residential
momentum
increase.
R
You
know
in
and
around
center
city
and
pushing
out
into
the
neighborhoods
more
as
we
had
seen
prior
to
the
pandemic
as
well-
and
you
know
those
new
residents,
you
know
drive
some
of
that
demand
for
those
commercial
businesses
in
the
neighborhood.
Now
more
so
than
ever,
because
people
are
at
home,
you
know
more
they're
at
home,
more
than
just
5
p.m,
to
6
a.m,
they're
home
from
nine
to
five
which
which
they
were
not
before.
R
So
I
think
what
we've
seen
be
really
successful
during
the
pandemic
is
take
out
locations
and
locations
that
provide
lunch
service.
You
know
just
in
my
own
neighborhood
there's
a
number
of
restaurants
specific
that
do
not
do
lunch
service,
because
the
majority
of
their
consumers
were
dinnertime
consumers,
and
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
think
about
how
we
can
support
entrepreneurs
with
access
to
the
technology.
They
need
to
do
delivery,
the
technology
that
they
would
need.
R
You
know
to
access
the
consumers
that
are
increasingly
in
those
neighborhoods
and
to
educate
them
frankly
on
the
business
opportunities
that
result
from
you
know
doing
restaurant
service
more
than
just
5
p.m.
To
midnight.
A
R
We
have
theresa
iovine,
jeff,
guaracino
and
priscilla
loose.
A
Okay,
again,
the
spirit
of
time.
Please
keep
your
verbal
testimony
if
possible,
to
around
two
minutes
and
then
proceed
with
your
testimony.
Say
your
name
for
the
record,
and
I
guess
we
can.
We
can
start
with
teresa
iovine.
T
Hello,
I'm
teresa-
and
I
am
here
with
my
brothers
vinnie
and
jimmy
I've-
I'm
the
owners
of
I'm
brothers
produced
and
the
roading
from
the
market,
as
well
as
the
restaurant.
B
Molly
malloys,
which
operates
inside
the
writing
terminal
market.
As
a
lot
of
you
know,
the
running
total
market
is
a
tourist
attraction.
T
As
well
as
the
longest
operating
farmers
market
in
the
country,
we've
basically
been.
The
businesses
here
have.
T
Implementing
safety
in
the
form
of
vehicle
barriers.
T
Diligent
to
make
sure
that
the
safety
of
our
staff
customers
have
been
the
biggest
priority.
G
You
know
we're
representing
just
our
family,
which
you
know,
we've
been
here
30
years
now,
which
one
of
my
family
members
are
actually
two
of
those
actually
that
close
down
to
the
pandemic.
I
think
also.
G
The
seven
families
in
the
terminal
market,
the
the
stress
level
of
not
knowing
what's
going
to
happen
when
I
guess
I
guess
for
me
personally,
I
was
going
to
listen
to
something,
but
in
the
cold
is
such
a
great
job.
Laying
out
that
foundation,
I
mean
I'd,
be
reiterating
most
of
it.
I
guess
for
me
it's
the
communication
and
when
things
are
gonna
happen
is
the
most
important
if
they
can
work
on
keeping
the
percentage
down
for
the
delivery
platforms.
G
L
G
We'll
try
that
sorry
about
that.
Is
that
any
better
I
apologize
so
yeah.
We
are
family.
With
our
bubble
we've
been
together.
We
wanted
to
show
that
we're
trying
our
best
that
you
know
not
to
go
over
too
much.
I
guess
you
know,
like
I
said
we're
here,
not
only
representing
the
iovine
family
but
the
other
70
family
businesses
from
the
market
and
again
by
the
way.
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
giving
us
this
opportunity,
but
you
know
nicole,
did
a
fantastic
job
telling
us
you
know
laying
it
all
out.
G
I
mean
I
to
follow.
Her
would
be
even
tough
to
say,
but
I
guess
just
some
of
the
key
things
for
me
would
be
the
communication
and
when
things
are
going
to
happen,
any
relief
that
is
possible
would
be
amazing
down
to
even
you
know
who
we,
my
brother
and
I
have
even
since
downsized
our
homes
and
tried
to
refinance,
but
because
we've
taken
people
out
when
they
were
refinanced
right
now
to
try
and
keep
things
going.
G
So
we
just
wanted
to
stress
the
the
amount
of
risk
that
that
small
business
is
really
encountering
is
almost
like
threatening.
Sometimes
you
know
when
I
talk
to
some
of
the
other
merchants
in
the
market,
but
again.
B
B
It's
truly
not
about
your
situation
and
relief
can't
come
soon
enough,
and
I
know
you
just
can
do
whatever
you
can,
but
just
keep
us
in
mind.
Please.
B
And
we
love
it
here
again,
thanks
again.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
just
want
to
say:
listen.
We
really
appreciate
you
being
there.
We
appreciate
everyone
in
the
reading
terminal.
I
know
councilman
squill
is
on
in
the
hearing
right
now
and
that's
his
district.
I
think
you're
even
on
the
board
councilman
school,
I
don't
know
so
we
appreciate
all
of
you
look.
We
want
to
help
you
as
much
as
we
can
and
I
speak
for
all
my
colleagues.
We
really
really
want
to
help
every
business
new
existing
get
through
this
period.
G
A
D
S
N
Yes
and
then,
and
as
you
heard,
the
you
know
the
board's
trying
to
do
what
they
can,
but
you
know
it's
it's
not.
We
can't
do
enough
right.
We
we
know
the
suffering
that's
going
on,
we
know
the
what
they
put
into
place
and
dawn
has
been
a
big
help.
Also,
you
know
this.
This
is
a
reality
of
what's
going
on
here.
So
as
we
re-emphasize
on
how
we
deal
with
these
issues,
the
main
focus
should
be
on.
N
You
know:
how
do
we
help
the
smart
restart,
and
I
think
that
is
something
that
is-
is
paramount
right
here
to
doing
that
and
we
we
know
about
the
physical
health
of
the
virus,
but
what
we
don't
know
yet
is
the
long-term
results
of
the
mental
emotional
health
that
is
going
to
be
impacted
for
years
to
come.
So
we
have
to
also
keep
that
in
the
mind
and
and
do
everything
we
can
to
to
help
during
this
crisis.
N
So,
thank
you
all
and
then
guys
thank
you
for
hanging
in
there
and
you
know
we'll
keep
trying
to
do
things
to
you
know,
get
this
up
and
running
and
hopefully-
and
you
know
see
that
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel
so
that
we
can
come
through
this
together.
So
hang
in
there.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
councilman
and
I
just
want
to
say
to
dawn
somerville.
I
know
you're
having
that
meeting
on
friday
with
hospitality
people,
the
restaurant
people.
I
hope
from
that
meeting
we
can
come
up
with
a
solution.
That's
a
smart,
restart
on
how
we
can
get
back
on
track
with
the
health
department,
so
I'm
really
hoping
that
that's
going
to
be
productive.
A
L
Good
afternoon,
chairman
dom
vice
chairman
o'neill
and
members
of
the
committee,
thank
you
for
having
me
today.
In
the
interest
of
time,
I
will
refer
you
to
the
statistics
and
my
in
my
official
testimony.
I
do
want
to
do
at
a
high
level.
A
few
things
first
is
to
say
that
I
want
to
thank
you
and
the
administration
for
your
action,
your
leadership
and
the
dialogue
that
we're
having
around
the
hospitality
industry.
L
I
also
want
to
thank
you
for
your
action
on
the
support
of
black
and
brown
businesses,
as
we've
launched
our
campaign
in
retail
of
chopra
brown
business.
The
topics
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about
today
are
jobs
for
our
friends
and
family
recovery
via
demand,
you've
heard
demand
come
up
a
number
of
times.
I've
been
listening,
the
entire
time
and,
of
course,
tax
revenue,
I'm
I'm
a
resident
of
philadelphia.
L
L
I
do
want
to
say
that,
as
you
mentioned,
we
are
a
hot
city,
travel,
leisure,
condi,
nash,
traveler,
national
geographic,
traveler,
james
beard
foundation.
We
and
you
and
our
elected
officials
in
health
are
working
through
a
pandemic,
but
the
recovery
is
already
underway
through
our
campaigns
of
our
term
tourists.
I
know
greg
karen
and
his
team
are
already
working
on
bringing
back
army
navy
meetings
and
conventions,
all
regional
residents
who
are
no
longer
coming
into
our
city
as
day
trippers.
L
Who
are
critical,
and
I
so
I
want
to
mention
to
you
about
the
demand
that
can
immediately
help
lift
all
boats,
and
this
is
not
the
first
time
that
philadelphia
has
had
a
major
challenge,
whether
it's
been
9
11
2008.
L
We
have
come
together
through
smart
investment
in
creating
demand
again
through
marketing
and
investment
in
the
hospitality
industry
that
has
created
an
immediate
return
on
investment
immediately
in
jobs,
in
generating
tax
revenue
for
the
city's
city
and
for
the
state
tax
revenue
paid
by
the
tourists
to
fund
tourism,
marketing
and
promotion,
as
well
as
recovery
for
all
the
for-profits
and
non-profits.
Who
you're
going
to
hear
from
I.
In
my
testimony.
L
L
Not
only
has
councilman
green
mentioned
to
you
that
baltimore
florida
and
new
york
have
already
launched
economic
development
recovery
campaigns
for
their
hospitality
industry,
but
our
regional
friends
and
we're
the
regional
tourism
marketing
corporation.
So,
in
addition
to
philadelphia,
we
promote
fox
chester,
montgomery
and
delaware
county.
They
have
already
received
funding
from
the
cares
act:
2.5
million
for
bucks,
county
600,
000
in
montgomery
county,
several
hundred
thousand
in
delaware
and
chester
county
all
with
television
and
expensive
advertising.
L
That
is
telling
people
to
stay
in
the
suburbs
and
patronize
their
businesses.
There.
The
competition
from
new
york,
baltimore
and
other
places
are
going
to
continue
to
come.
In
addition
to
our
own
commonwealth,
we
will
see
the
poconos
and
lancaster
already
marketing
and
promoting
their
recovery
visit.
Philadelphia
and
our
colleagues
are
working
on
the
recovery.
You've
seen
some
of
our
marketing.
L
With
this,
we
are
your
partner
to
the
industry,
we're
a
partner
in
recovery,
we're
happy
to
meet
with
you
individually
and
as
a
council
on
the
economic
well-being
of
our
city,
I'm
born
and
raised
here
I
went
to
community
college
and
I
had
an
access
to
go
to
four
to
a
four-year
college
and
now
I'm
running
visit
philadelphia.
This
is
an
industry
that
30
years
ago,
our
there
was
a
vision,
create
jobs,
tax
revenue,
sport,
small
business,
and
it
has
worked.
So
we
are
your
partner.
A
K
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman,
and
all
members
of
city
council,
I'm
delighted
to
be
here
to
represent
the
arts
and
culture
sector.
We
represent
more
than
460
arts
and
culture
organizations
in
the
five
county
region.
380
members
of
the
alliance
are
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
before
the
pandemic.
K
You
may
be
interested
to
know
that
this
was
a
3.4
billion
dollar
industry
that
employed
37
000
in
the
city
and
delivered
157
million
dollars
in
tax
revenue
annually.
So
it
is
not
an
insignificant
sector,
as
jeff
was
saying.
Arts
and
culture
is
also
an
essential
part
of
why
the
city
has
experienced
a
renaissance
arts
and
culture
drives
both
international
and
domestic
tourism,
and
it
has
also
routinely
drawn
residents
into
the
city
which
helps
restaurants
and
retail.
K
So
as
the
six-month
shutdown
occurred
for
arts
and
culture
last
spring,
our
arts
and
culture
sector
participants
and
members
invested
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
in
health
protocols,
including
ppe,
air
quality
and
time
ticketing
to
control
density,
so
that,
when
reopening
occurred,
they
could
do
so
very
safely
and
in
fact
that
is
exactly
what
happened
when
reopening
occurred.
K
All
of
these
protocols
were
in
place
and
we
believe
that
we
have
very
safe
operations
across
the
sector,
and
so
the
second
shutdown
which
occurred
has
been
devastating,
and
particularly
this
period
between
thanksgiving
through
new
year's
day
is
when
we
get
maximum
numbers
of
visits
from
families
in
the
region.
So
all
of
that
has
not
happening
now,
and
so
this
has
thrust
the
sector
into
something
of
an
extended
crisis.
K
I
want
to
let
you
know
that
research
that
the
cultural
alliance
just
completed
shows
that
more
than
40
percent
of
arts
and
culture
organizations
view
this
upcoming
period
of
january
to
march
2021
as
the
period
of
greatest
financial
peril
for
them,
and
this
hasn't
even
happened
yet
they're
just
looking
ahead
and
even
more
staggering
is
the
scope
of
the
projected
revenue
loss
for
the
sector
of
the
organizations
that
we
surveyed
the
estimated
combined
revenue
loss
between
march
2020
and
march
21,
that
is
over
the
past
nine
to
12
months,
is
in
the
range
of
214
million
dollars.
K
Private
philanthropy
has
helped
us,
but
it
cannot
meet
the
total
need
of
the
sector.
So
I
asked
the
city
to
consider
accelerating
the
opening
of
cultural
institutions
after
january
4th,
with
all
of
the
protocols
in
place
that
we've
been
discussing
for
the
other
sectors.
Arts
and
culture
stands
ready
to
have
all
of
those
protocols
in
place
for
us
as
well
and
to
contribute
to
the
discussion
around
what
are
good
safety
protocols.
K
K
We
would
especially
like
individual
artists,
small
to
medium-sized
arts
organizations
and
organizations
supporting
bipod
communities
to
be
given
priority
in
your
support
and,
frankly
I'll.
Just
put
it
very
simply.
Economic
relief
for
our
sector
is
imperative
for
our
survival.
So
thank
you
very
much.
A
K
Without
question,
we're
ready.
K
Not
yet
we
anticipated
doing
that.
We
had
a
very,
very
good
meeting
with
dr
farley
and
the
mayor's
office
as
a
start,
and
we
would
love
to
continue
those
conversations
with
the
commerce
department.
A
And
I
suggest
that
look
what
we
want
this
goal
of
this
hearing
today
is
to
get
everybody
together
and
and
achieve
the
same
goal,
but
get
the
economy
back
on
track
in
a
safe
way.
So
can
I
suggest
in
the
next
few
days,
maybe
you
all
can
get
together:
commerce,
priscilla
and
figure
this
out
meet
with
dr
farley,
and
let's
try
to
get
this
opened
up
after
the
first
of
the
year,
so
that
we
can
get
back
on
track.
K
We
would
absolutely
love
to
do
that
and
we
thank
you
councilman
for
suggesting
this
in
your
leadership
and
hosting
this
hearing.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Sure-
and
I
like
jeff,
if
you
could
be
involved
in
that
too,
with
visit
philly,
be
part
of
that
meeting
I
mean,
as
you
said,
visit
philly
is
like
is
so
crucial
to
all
the
other
businesses
in
our
city
and
the
feed
off,
no
pun
intended
the
restaurants
and
everything
else
is
pretty
powerful.
So,
and
so
I
appreciate
we
can
get
that
meeting
pretty
quickly.
There
is
a
sense
of
urgency
right
now.
This
is
a
sense
of
urgency.
A
This
is
by
the
way-
and
I
think
one
of
my
colleagues
said
this-
I
think
most
businesses
in
general-
I
think
councilman
jones
said
this-
prefer
that
government
doesn't
get
involved
in
their
business,
but
this
is
a
time
when
we
need
to
get
involved
in
order
to
help,
and
I
think
we're
all
prepared
to
do
that.
So,
let's
try
to
make
these
meetings
happen
quickly.
Let's
get
these
things
done
in
a
safe
way,
get
everybody's
approval
and
get
back
on
track.
Jeff.
I
have
a
question
for
you.
A
The
convention
business,
I
know,
is
a
huge
business
for
the
city
of
philadelphia
and
I
know
in
the
last.
I
think
I
don't
remember
two
years,
maybe
or
so,
where
we
booked
a
lot
more
conventions
and
that
business
you
know,
produces
a
lot
of
revenue
for
the
city
and
a
lot
of
revenue
for
restaurants,
hotels,
retail.
Everything
at
this
point
in
time,
can
you
give
me
some
sort
of
picture
for
2021
what
that
convention
business
looks
like.
L
Yes,
thank
you
councilman.
As
you
know,
the
philadelphia
convention
business
bureau
greg
karen,
they
oversee
meetings,
conventions
and
major
sporting
events,
and
so
he
could
he-
and
I
spoke
this
morning.
So
that
is
his
area
responsibility,
but
the
industry
is
united.
So
first
I
will
tell
you
that,
thanks
to
the
way
we
have
structured
our
industry
here
in
philadelphia,
we
have
a
competitive
advantage.
Other
cities
like
new
york
and
vegas,
who
have
over
relied
on
overseas
or
or
meetings
and
conventions
we
they
are
in
trouble.
L
We
have
a
strong
leisure
market
which
will
come
back
first.
That
will
lead
the
industry's
recovery
and
that's
what
visit
philadelphia
works
on
and
we're
very
strong
leisure
88
percent
of
the
people
come
here
come
for
fun.
Saturday
night
is
the
busiest
night
of
the
week
meetings
and
conventions,
and
groups
will
start
to
come
back
in
late
2021.
They
know
they
book
much
later
and
then
that
will
come
into
22
into
23..
L
So
what's
interesting
about
philadelphia
and
our
opportunity
is
that
leisure
this
year
in
21
will
lead
the
recovery
help
with
tax
revenue,
help
with
jobs,
help
with
getting
people
in
restaurants,
museums,
attractions
and
our
image.
And
then,
as
the
meetings
and
convention
business
starts
to
come
back
and
greg
and
his
team
are
hustling,
they
are
doing
a
great
job
over
there.
Then
the
meetings
conventions
come
back
to
our
hotels
and
then
army
navy
will
come
back
and
then
these
other
major
events
as
we
get
into
the
250..
L
So
unlike
other
cities,
our
strong
leisure
market
convention
group
and
meeting
and
then
the
opportunities
coming
up
is
our
competitive
advantage.
If
we
didn't
have
it
right
now,
we
could
be
looking
at
2021
where
we're
all
still
suffering
but
leisure
will
help,
and
then
it
gives
the
pathway
for
us
to
get
meetings
and
conventions
back.
But
I
will
ask
greg
karen
and
his
team
to
follow
up
with
your
office
specifically
about
meetings
and
conventions.
L
I
will
say
to
you,
the
small
groups,
whether
it's
weddings
like
leaders,
that's
a
big
opportunity
for
us
and
that
built
up
demand
and
people
coming
back
to
bring
their
own
meetings
and
conventions
here
or
spending
time
as
a
tourist
in
their
own
hometown
and
rediscovering
philadelphia
is
a
giant
opportunity.
If
we
take
it,
people
are
not
going
to
take
cruises
in
the
short
term,
they're
not
going
to
be
going
overseas.
In
the
short
term.
A
A
If
they
missed
out
on
2020
in
philadelphia.
How
do
we
recapture
that
business
I
mean?
Do
we
go
to
them
2027?
Are
they
going
to
push
slide
all
their
convention
years
back?
How
do
we
like
not
lose
the
business
that
was
going
to
come
here,
especially
with
all
the
positive
news?
That's
coming
out
about
philadelphia
and
they
should
come
here.
L
I
will
say
to
you
again
I'll
defer
the
expertise
to
greg
karen,
but
I
will
answer
your
question
because
we
we're
lockstep.
We
talk
all
the
time.
The
pennsylvania
convention
center
is
a
major
competitive
advantage
for
us
by
being
downtown
and
john
mcnichol,
and
that
team
are
doing
a
great
job.
Our
hotels
which
are
expanding
are
are
are
very
competitive.
They
have
been
rebooking
as
I
understand,
because
they
are
laser
focused
on
re-booking.
L
That
groups
that
they're
doing
a
great
job
and
leads
are
coming
back,
but
no
every
city
is
competing
for
those
those
same
people
on
the
leisure
market
by
us
having
strong
leisure
that
fills
in
and
that
helps
drive
all
the
other
room
nights.
So
again,
I
will
ask
greg
karen
to
get
back
to
you
specifically
on
the
strategy
and
their
success.
I
will
go
back
to
one
thing:
the
way
that
the
hospitality
industry
was
envisioned.
L
The
way
we
created
it
almost
30
years
ago
is
the
reason
why
we're
going
to
recover
more
quickly
than
other
cities.
If
we
do
it
right
and
that
you
know
sometimes
philadelphia
is
considered
like.
Why
do
you
do
things
your
own
way?
It's
because
it
works
for
us,
and
I
will
show
you
in
the
data
and
as
we
rehire
people
in
jobs,
and
you
see,
tax
revenue
come
back
30
years
ago
those
decisions
that
were
made
by
members
of
council,
the
state
legislature,
governors
and
mayors
and
leaders
like
yourself
in
the
business
community.
L
A
L
It
is
and
I'll
just
mention
when
you
look
at
big
events
where
they
rent
out
arts,
like
the
I
used
to
work
at
the
franklin
institute
when
you
have
big
corporate
rentals,
like
that,
that
is
a
game
changer
for
them.
When
you
have
25
000
people
in
the
town,
when
we
had
the
dnc,
the
rnc
army,
navy,
we're
on
national
media
and
then
what
helps
us
all
year.
L
Long
are
things
that
visit
philadelphia
works
on
the
advertising,
the
pr
the
visit
philly.com
website,
what
we
do
with
travel
method
and,
as
everyone
knows
in
council,
advertising
is
very
expensive.
So
we
need
to
continue
to
stay
out
there
and
it
all
impacts
each
other.
L
A
Thank
you,
I'm
going
to
take
you
up
on
that,
so
thank
you
very
much.
I
want
to
thank
this
panel.
Thank
you
all
for
your
testimony.
Today.
We
look
forward
to
being
in
touch
with
you
and
priscilla
and
jeff.
I
hope
you
have
that
meeting
with
commerce
and
health
and,
let's
get
sooner
versus
later
sense,.
A
A
B
Our
next
panel
is
jennifer
rodriguez,
kate,
mcginty,
gwen
mccauley
and
philip
dawson.
S
Good
afternoon
councilman
dom.
Thank
you,
sir,
very
much
for
having
me
here.
I
understand
that
time
is
of
the
essence,
so
I
will
not
read
my
testimony
in
full.
I
will
just
skim
through
it
to
give
you
an
idea.
You
have
heard
a
lot
of
the
opinions
and
testimony
do
align
with
the
way
the
hispanic
chamber
sees
the
situation.
S
I
will,
of
course,
start
by
saying
that
there
are
approximately
12
000
latino
owned
businesses
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
and
that
of
these
nearly
40
percent
are
commercial
quarter
type
enterprises
such
as
restaurants,
hair
salons,
barber
shops
and
other
retail
concentrated
around
commercial
quarters
in
north
and
south
philadelphia,
and
these,
of
course,
have
been
most
impacted
by
covet
19..
S
Examining
the
economic
impact
of
these
restrictions
is
crucial
to
our
organization,
and
it
should
be
again
reinstated
that
recent
safer
at
home
restrictions
will
be
catastrophic
for
many
of
these
businesses,
and
we
are
sadly
disappointed
that
key
stakeholders
like
including
our
chamber,
have
not
been
consulted
in
the
process
of
determining
these
recent
business
closures
or
restriction
measures.
S
In
fact,
we
diverse
chamber
african
american
chamber
asian
chamber,
the
lgbtq
chamber
and
the
hispanic
chamber
issued
letters
related
to
this
sentiment
to
your
kenny
and
and
dr
farley,
and
we
have
not
been
contacted
related
to
that.
S
But
here
we
are
today
and
it's
important
to
note
that,
as
has
been
said,
many
of
our
most
of
our
businesses
have
really
taken
the
measures
that
have
been
suggested
and
required
by
government
and
unfortunately,
they
cannot
afford
to
make
additional
cuts
and
the
remedies
that
have
been
offered
by
the
city,
such
as
the
adjustment
of
the
uno,
the
delays
and
evictions
and
others.
While
fare
will
not
be
sufficient
to
mitigate
the
revenue
losses
that
amount
to
more
than
40
percent
on
average
for
our
businesses
they
ser
certainly
not
substitutes
for
sales.
S
On
a
weekly
basis,
we
have
begun
to
hear
of
closures
in
among
latino
businesses
or
businesses
that
are
at
the
brink
of
collapse,
because
operating
in
this
new
normal
is
just
not
feasible.
Barber
shops
that
depend
on
walk-in
business
cannot
operate
so
their
barbers
set
up
shop
in
their
homes
event,
planners
and
caterers
depend
on.
S
This
fall
in
an
effort
to
support
local
businesses,
particularly
in
south
philadelphia.
We
created
the
latino
initiative,
which
also
had
a
restaurant
week
associated
with
it,
and
we
enrolled
22
restaurants.
Those
two
restaurants
received
capacity
and
technical
assistance
to
help
them
weather
the
pandemic,
and,
in
addition,
we
distributed
fifteen
thousand
dollars
in
a
small
business
grants
and
microgrants
to
those
businesses
with
adequate
funding.
Of
course,
gphcc
can
do
much
more
to
create
and
help
create
destination
in
south
philadelphia
and
support
these
businesses.
S
This
winter
will
be
very
difficult
for
black
and
brown
entrepreneurs,
many
of
whom
will
be
forced
to
make
difficult
decisions
about
their
businesses.
They
have
invested
their
dreams
and
resources
in
many
of
them
will
have
to
reduce
operations,
lay
off
staff
or
permanent
close
due
to
the
circumstances
outside
of
their
control,
ensuring
that
we
start
planning
today
to
position
those
that
survive
for
success
should
be
a
priority.
A
Thank
you,
jennifer,
I'm
going
to
go
through
all
the
panelists
and
then
we
have
some
questions.
Let's
go
to
kate
mcginshie
from
the
old
city
district.
B
Thank
you
I'll,
try
and
keep
this
brief
good
afternoon.
Council
members
on
and
all
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
kate
mcglinchey
and
I
am
the
economic
development
and
policy
manager
for
the
old
city
district.
Like
many
philadelphia,
neighborhoods
old
salinas
restaurants
have
been
severely
impacted
by
copen
19
and
the
related
restrictions.
B
Old
city
has
already
seen
several
restaurants
permanently
closed
this
year,
including
neighborhood
standby
such
as
pharmacia
additional
restaurants,
have
elected
to
temporarily
close
for
the
winter,
creating
more
gaps
on
our
commercial
corridor.
Restaurants
fear
that
the
coming
colder
months
and
the
continued
impact
of
the
pandemic
will
have
an
even
more
devastating
effect.
B
Many
restaurants
have
done
their
best
to
adapt
with
outdoor
dining
greeneries
and
sidewalk.
Cafes
have
popped
up
throughout
the
neighborhood.
An
old
city
district
runs
the
weekly
street
closure
to
create
an
outdoor
dining
room
on
2nd
street
after
dining
has
been
a
lifeline
with
several
restaurants
expressing
to
our
office
that
they
would
not
have
survived
without
it.
We
are
incredibly
grateful
to
city
council
and
the
administration
for
these
opportunities
and
would
be
thrilled
if
outdoor
dining
allowances
could
be
made
permanent
to
give
the
restaurants
more
time
and
space
for
recovery.
B
B
Undoubtedly,
the
administration
worked
as
quickly
as
possible
to
release
these
guidelines,
and
we
appreciate
the
quick
responses
we
received
to
questions
when
these
guidelines
were
published,
but
with
cold
weather
approaching
the
mid-october
release
left
only
a
few
weeks
for
restaurants
for
your
guideline.
Compliance
supplies
that
were
in
high
demand,
more
advanced
notice
of
regulations,
even
a
few
days,
would
give
restaurants
time
to
understand
and
ask
for
clarification
on
these
new
restrictions
and
make
the
needed
adjustments.
B
According
to
our
restaurants,
unclear
regulations
and
confusing
enforcement
have
presented
further
challenges.
Over
the
last
few
months,
old
city,
restaurants,
have
received
multiple
tickets
and
fines
for
their
outdoor
dining
setups.
These
tickets
are
typically
from
minor
issues
such
as
string
lighting
and
the
cost
of
these
finds
places
an
additional
burden
on
restaurants
already
struggling
to
make
ends
meet.
We
understand
the
need
for
enforcement
for
safety
and
realize
that
there
is
always
an
adjustment
periods
in
regulations.
B
As
we
enter
into
the
difficult
winter
months,
we
ask
to
work
with
the
city
to
clarify
these
guidelines,
provide
more
advanced
notice
of
new
restrictions
to
our
restaurants
and
perhaps
make
outdoor
dining
a
permanent
feature
of
philadelphia's
vibrant
commercial
corridors.
We
appreciate
everything
that
the
city
has
done
to
work
with
business
improvement,
districts
and
our
restaurants
communities.
So
far,
we
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
on
these
issues.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
today
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
kate.
Let's
go
to
gwen
mccauley
from
the
many
young
districts.
T
Hello
councilman
dom
thank
you
and
your
staff
for
inviting
me
to
to
speak
today
and
participate
on
behalf
of
my
stakeholders.
T
A
week
ago
I
had
councilman
jones
and
director
rasheed.
I
think
councilman
jones
referred
to
it
earlier
in
on
testimonies
and
many
other
city
agencies
out
to
many
young
for
for
a
visit
to
it
was
really
positive
in
light
of
all
of
covet
and
we
were
giving
them
our
exciting
vision
and
and
these
initiatives
that
we
have
for
post
covet,
and
these
are
all
great
positive
stuff,
but
the
key
element
is
who
will
be
here
when
that
time
comes.
T
So
with
that
in
mind,
I
want
to
say
good
afternoon
to
all
members
of
the
committee,
and
I
want
to
tell
you
that
if
you
would
have
told
me
a
year
ago
that
many
young,
the
city
the
country
for
that
matter,
would
be
in
the
condition
it
is
today.
I
wouldn't
have
believed
yet
what
a
difference
a
year
makes
now
here
we
are,
and
I'm
wondering
what
does
my
district
look
like
this
time
next
year
in
20.
Excuse
me
in
2021,
will
we
hold
one
to
our
occupancy
rate?
T
Will
we
lose
any
more
merchants?
Who
can
no
longer
hang
on?
Will
a
restaurant
who
opted
to
close
down
until
the
restrictions
are
lifted
just
decide
to
stay
closed?
How
will
that
affect
his
or
her
neighbors?
Will
this
trend?
Will
this
be
a
growing
trend?
Our
restaurants
are
the
driving
force
behind
our
district.
Without
them,
we
have
nothing
in
normal
times.
They
employ
roughly
a
thousand
workers
on
our
in
our
on
our
mile
district.
T
It's
roughly
1
000
workers
and
it
represents
50
000
transactions.
Weekly
they're
led
they're
they're,
our
lead
economic
driver
and
they
result
in
large
percentages
of
secondary
transactions
as
neighboring
local
retailer
shops.
In
the
district.
These
add-on
purchases
are
the
life
bread
of
our
local
economy,
an
example
would
be
going
into
a
restaurant
and
stopping
at
the
eyeglass
tour
to
browse
for
sunglass
selections
or
picking
up
a
cord
or
candle.
While
waiting
for
your
table
to
be
ready.
T
If
a
restaurant
fails,
their
employees
lose
their
jobs,
the
storefront
goes
empty
until
the
next
low
margin
restaurant
comes
in,
but
that's
not
even
the
end
of
it.
The
larger
scale
problem
is
the
barbershop
loses
his
customers.
The
retail
shop
loses
their
customers,
the
dry,
cleaner
loses
their
customers,
there's
no
parking
revenue
for
us
to
sustain
our
district
marketing
efforts
and
the
barren
storefronts
makes
incoming
businesses
reconsider.
Locating
there
it's
such
a
domino
effect
and
we're
fearful
of
the
loss
of
a
few
key
restaurants
and
that
we
could
possibly
not
recover
from
it.
T
We
were
the
last
county
to
open
this
summer.
Excuse
me
and
the
first
in
the
state
to
shut
down
again
on
november
16th
or
based
on
the
november
16th
ruling
it
resulted.
It's
resulted
in
six
to
eight
weeks
of
additional
outdoor
dining
within
the
philadelphia,
collard
counties,
montgomery
county
being
less
than
a
mile
away
from
antioch
was
it
was
hugely
impactful
to
us.
T
I
believe
this
loss
of
revenue
might
have
sealed
the
fate
of
some
of
our
local
restaurants.
I'm
asking
the
city
council
to
be
aware
of
our
difficulty
of
budding
another
county.
Please
be
aware
of
the
devastation
you
create
by
not
maintaining
the
same
guidelines
as
the
rest
of
the
state.
Of
course.
Our
foremost
thoughts
are
the
eradication
of
the
disease,
but
I
wonder
what
harm
this
pandemic
will
have
left
on.
Our
district
long
after
it's
been
eradicated,
we're
not
a
wealthy
district,
yet
we're
not
the
poorest,
but
yet
we're
not
poor
enough
either.
T
We
receive
little
to
no
aid
from
this
from
the
city
and
state
and
yet
we're
trying
to
find
our
way.
Many
of
our
recent
initiatives
have
been
self-funded,
including
imaginarization,
outdoor
dining
grant,
which
we
match
dollar
for
dollar
any
of
the
outdoor
restaurants,
who
wanted
to
winterize
their
streeters
funding
of
security
guards
for
main
street
during
the
civil
unrest
to
provide
a
presence
on
the
street
that
was
not
available
for
us
from
the
philadelphia
police
department.
T
This
prevented.
We
think
this
really
helped
our
district,
because
it
prevented
us
from
boarding
up
and
it
kept
residents
who
weren't
going
to
center
city
coming
down
to
the
street.
We
think
it
was
a
huge,
the
positive
initiative
for
us.
We've
done
a
gofundme
page
for
displaced
employees
and
prize
monies
recently
to
in
senator
incentivize
our
businesses
to
decorate
for
the
holidays.
If
you
haven't
been
down
on
main
street,
it
is
lit
up
and
looking
lively
and
we're.
T
So
please
just
be
cognizant
of
our
plate
and
try
to
refrain
from
hurting
us
with
over
regulation
and
guidelines
that
don't
match
other
counties.
The
outdoor
dining
through
2021
has
been
the
best
initiative.
That's
come
out
of
city
council
this
year
and
our
hopes
are
that
you
see
a
way
to
make
these
street
areas
a
fixture
for
a
long
time
past
the
end
of
2020
2021
in
order
to
help
the
restaurants
rebuild
and
survive.
T
Excuse
me:
twenty
percent
of
our
gym
and
fitness
centers,
who
left
the
area
for
montgomery
county
and
we
don't
want
to
lose
anymore
so
included
in
my
testimony-
is
an
article
in
my
written
testimony
is
an
article
by
my
colleague
leo
dillinger,
and
it
was
recently
published
in
our
manual
magazine
and
he
quotes
five
business
owners
answering
questions
on
why
it's
so
important,
now
more
than
ever,
to
support
small
businesses.
T
So
in
an
effort
to
give
you
an
idea
of
what
our
stakeholders
are
thinking,
there
is
a
gamut
of
different
stakeholders
here,
a
little
retail
shop,
brandy,
dieseo
of
the
little
apple
who
says
having
been
shut
down
for
three
to
four
months.
Many
of
us
small
business
owners
didn't
even
know
if
we
we
would
be
able
to
reopen,
and
some
sadly
didn't.
It
was
only
thanks
to
the
online
support
of
our
customers
during
the
shutdown
that
we
were
able
to
pull
ourselves
together,
get
our
doors
open
again.
T
Now
we
hope
to
rebuild
and
to
be
there
for
our
customers
during
the
magical
time
of
the
holiday
season
and
appreciate
them
choosing
to
shop,
small
and
keyboard.
Our
special
little
neighborhood
alive
and
thriving
robert
ashford
of
unity.
Yoga
says
supporting
local
business
at
any
time
always
means
you're,
helping
put
food
on
a
table,
pay
a
mortgage
or
investing
in
your
neighbors.
Now
more
than
ever,
in
the
face
of
covet
19
supporting
local
means
ensuring
maniac
and
main
street
stay
vibrant
and
a
destination
that
we're
all
proud
to
visit.
T
Sean
coyle
from
the
goat
spirit
says:
the
people
who
are
employed
by
small
business
are
risk
of
losing
their
jobs.
It
seems
so
nihilistic,
but
it's
not
you're
going
to
see
a
lot
of
places,
including
independent,
independent
restaurants,
go
under
over
the
next
six
months.
That's
why
we
need
to
support
them,
because
this
is
a
tragic
time
in
a
low
margin
business
and
they
need
your
help.
Whether
it's
takeout
gift
cards
are
showing
up
if
you're
comfortable
showing
up.
They
need
your
help
and
laura
ann
lamprove.
T
Li
lip,
philadelphia,
retail
store,
says
small
businesses
are
the
life
force
of
the
community.
They
give
the
neighbors
what
they
they
give
the
neighborhoods.
We
live
in
character
and
charm.
They
bring
an
energy
and
a
vitality
to
the
street.
They
invest
their
hard-earned
dollars
back
into
the
community.
Now
more
than
ever,
it's
so
important
to
support
the
small
businesses.
You
love
by
shopping
small,
spreading
the
word
of
the
word
to
friends
and
family
and
doing
your
part
to
tag
and
share
on
social
media.
Even
the
smallest
actions
can
have
the
greatest
impacts.
T
Basically
we're
just
asking
you
to
be
our
partner.
We're
asking
you
to
work
with
us,
and
I
thank
you
for
listening
and
for
your
continued
work
on
our
behalf
and
small
business.
A
A
Philip
dawson
are
you
there
available
or
maybe
there's
some
technical
difficulty?
Oh
waiting
for
philip
dawson
to
come
on.
I
have
a
few
questions.
I
thought
I
could
ask
and
jennifer
rodriguez.
I
wanted
to
ask
you
this
question.
You
mentioned,
I
think,
in
your
testimony
that
there
was
fifteen
thousand
dollars
that
was
utilized
for
some
businesses
in
south
philadelphia.
I
believe.
C
A
S
Sure
so
the
the
chamber,
back
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
created
the
r
plus
small
business
really
fund.
We
received
thousand
dollars
of
towards
towards
that
campaign
from
the
united
states
hispanic
chamber
and
it
was
to
be
allocated
in
microgrants
for
small
businesses.
S
We
know
that
there
is
every
time
we
have
seen
one
of
these
grand
programs
being
issued
or
created
that
there
is
a
major
over
subscription
of
of
applications
compared
to
the
dollars
that
are
assigned,
which
creates
a
lot
of
frustration,
because
so
many
business
owners
are
not
able
to
to
to
take
advantage
of
that.
They
actually
become
frustrated
and
stop
applying
for
the
grant
programs.
S
So
we
were
very
aware
of
that
and
we
knew
that
fifteen
thousand
dollars
would
not
be
enough
to
distribute
amongst
latino
owned
businesses,
so
we
decided
that
we
were
gonna
match
the
relief,
the
relief
dollars
to
our
dying
latino
campaign.
So
for
restaurants
that
signed
up
for
our
restaurant
week,
we
then
made
those
were
22,
restaurants
or
22
or
23,
and
then
we
said
that
they
would
be
eligible
to
apply
for
this
fifteen
thousand
dollars,
which
gave
them
a
much
greater
probability
of
of
being
selected,
and
we
were
very
flexible.
S
A
Okay,
I
mean
I'm
asking
that
question,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
all
three
of
you:
either
work
together
or
work
with
other
people
in
charge
of
districts
throughout
the
city.
I'd
like
to
hear
your
suggestions
on
how
you
we
could
support
businesses,
whether
we
have
some
money
or
not,
or
what
are
the
things
we
could
do-
maybe
just
send
us
an
email
and
that
you
can
connect
because
we
do
want
to
help.
So
I
think
that
would
be
great.
I
think
philip
dawson
is
back
on.
L
There
we
go
thank
you
councilman
dom,
and
thank
you
to
the
other
council
members
and
our
district
council
person
bass
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today.
My
name
is
philip
dawson,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
chestnut
hill
business
district.
L
We
include
a
bid
in
a
community
development
corporation
and
we
serve
over
225
small
businesses
around
chestnut
hills,
germantown
avenue
corridor.
Our
district
corridor
is
notable
for
not
only
serving
the
neighborhood,
but
also
attracting
significant
visitation
from
tourists
and
the
outlying
counties.
L
A
2017
e-consult
report
found
that
we
had
over
317
000
visitors
a
year
in
an
average
year
which
sustains
employment
in
our
businesses
and
also
provides
important
tax
revenue
to
the
city.
The
pandemic,
of
course,
has
changed
all
that
our
chestnut
hill
hotel
was
closed
for
three
full
months.
One
of
its
two
full-service
restaurants
is
permanently
out
of
business
and
occupancy
remains
below
50
percent.
L
Chestnut
hills,
woodmere,
art
museum,
another
visitor
magnet,
has
been
temporarily
closed
during
the
current
round
of
restrictions,
as
well
as
in
all
parts
of
the
city.
Our
small
businesses
have
also
weathered
a
historically
challenging
year.
We've
had
a
dozen
of
them
who
have
permanently
closed
so
far
and
those
who
are
still
open
have
been
both
innovating
and
making
some
tough
decisions
to
ensure
their
survival,
whether
that's
laying
off
staff
moving
to
a
smaller
retail
footprint
or
making
a
foray
into
e-commerce
or
social
media.
To
try
to
find
new
customers.
L
We
did
a
recent
survey
of
chestnut
hill
businesses
who
had
applied
for
grant
assistance
and
about
two-thirds
of
them
reported
that
their
revenue
had
gone
down
by
at
least
40
percent
compared
to
the
past
year
and
about
one
in
six
of
them
said
it
had
gone
down
over
80
percent
from
the
past
year
and
the
most
dire
outlook
that
we've
seen,
of
course
for
the
coming
months
is
restaurants,
who
continue
to
struggle
with
reduced
staff,
trying
to
maintain
takeout
business
and
outdoor
dining,
that
is
very
weather.
Dependent.
L
L
Perhaps
the
most
encouraging
trend
we've
seen
this
year
is
that
there
have
been
new
entrepreneurs
who
are
still
coming
into
chestnut
hill
and
seeking
to
open
businesses,
even
as
some
established
businesses
have
been
forced
to
close.
So
I
think
it's
critical
this
time
that
we
do
everything
that's
possible
to
promote
their
success
and
also
protect
those
who
are
already
here,
and
we
look
forward
to
collaborating
with
the
city
to
promote
the
continued
recovery
of
the
district
in
2021.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Any
ideas
that
any
of
you
have
I
mentioned
earlier
on
how
we
can
help
all
your
businesses
in
the
district.
Please
let
us
know
we
are
looking
into
making
the
outdoor
streeters
permanent.
We
think
it'll
be
a
great
addition
to
the
city.
We
think
it's
a
point
of
differentiation
and
kate.
A
By
the
way
I
want
to
thank
you
in
the
old
city
district
for
all
your
cooperation
work
with
our
office,
but
we
think
that's
a
point
of
differentiation
from
the
suburbs
too,
so
we'll
be
back
to
you
with
that.
We
thank
you
for
your
testimony
today
and
have
a
great
holiday.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you,
mr
beck.
Let's
call
the
next
panel,
please.
A
I
I'm
not
sure
if
dr
hunt's
gonna
be
able
to
hop
on
is
he
on
stephen?
Are
you
on.
I
Okay,
I
see
he's
he's
on,
but
I
know
he's
kind
of
in
the
middle
of
a
couple
cases
over
at
penn
no
problem.
I
Yeah
all
right,
let
me
get
the
camera
on
real,
quick,
all
right,
so
first
off.
Thank
you.
So
much
for,
for
your
time,
councilman
dom
you've
been
you've,
been
really
really
good
in
helping
us
from
the
philadelphia
fitness
coalition
just
really
navigate,
I'm
trying
to
get
in
touch
with
the
city
as
well
as
the
health
department.
But
once
again
my
name
is
josiah
sunday,
I'm
the
owner
of
fit
academy,
a
black
owned
small
business
fitness
studio
here
in
philadelphia
and
I'm
also
a
part
of
the
philadelphia
fitness
coalition.
I
So
I'm
excited
to
be
able
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
my
experience
and
as
well
as
what's
going
on
in
our
industry
and
you'll,
also
hear
from
another
member
of
the
coalition
which
we're
trying
to
cast
in
a
minute.
So,
as
you
guys
know
guys,
this
year
has
been
incredibly
challenging
and
we
recognize
that's
been
challenging
for
almost
everybody
that
has
been
presenting
across
all
different
sectors.
I
But
you
know
right
now.
I
think
that
small
businesses
here
in
philadelphia,
especially
here
in
the
fitness
industry
and
wellness
industry,
this
pandemic,
has
been
a
situation
that
could
be
potentially
fatally
crippling
and
really
eliminating
the
majority
of
our
businesses.
Here,
as
we
know
it,
so
you
know
right
now,
as
as
a
stance
from
the
first
shutdown
one
out
of
every
five
wellness.
I
Businesses
has
closed
their
doors
and
they
won't
be
able
coming
back,
and
even
my
business
alone
was
barely
able
to
survive
the
first
four
and
a
half
five
months
of
the
shutdown
we
had
to
make
significant
pivots
online
outdoors.
Basically,
we
were
doing
every
single
thing
that
we
could
to
generate
revenue,
but
more
than
that
may
continue
making
the
impact
in
our
communities
that
we
live
in,
which
is
one
of
the
main
goals
for
all
of
our
businesses.
I
You
know
we
were
able
to
take
a
little
bit
of
the
advantage
of
the
ppps
and
the
eidls,
but
you
know
in
the
end,
our
our
finances
went
down
from
you
know,
100
down,
and
we
lost
like
70
of
our
clients
almost
instantly,
and
then
our
revenue
dropped
down
to
about
30,
which
we
had
to
somehow
find
a
way
to
sustain
that
over
time,
which
is
extremely
difficult.
I
The
biggest
thing
for
me
right
now
really
is
that
the
upfront
financial
costs
are
only
really
the
tip
of
the
iceberg.
You
know
we're
dealing
with
a
really
large
issue:
that's
more
than
just
revenue
loss,
we're
talking
about
loans,
we're
talking
about
mortgages,
rent
fees,
taxes
where
we're
also
mentioned
here,
and
the
biggest
challenge
is
even
though,
if
we
do
take
more
loans
that
just
puts
us
even
further
in
debt,
especially
now
we're
coming
up
on
the
second
shutdown.
I
Where
we're
about
three
and
a
half
four
weeks
into
the
second
shutdown
to
add
additional
loans,
it's
gonna
make
it
even
harder
for
us
to
get
out
of
the
situation.
So
for
us
we're
seeing
that
as
a
very
scary
thing,
what
we
need
is
grants.
I
What
we
need
is
relief
right,
whether
it's
one
two
three
months
relief,
something
that's
just
a
short
term
when
you
look
at
it
from
a
grand
scheme
of
things
to
have
a
business
survive
through
this
and
be
able
to
pay
taxes
over
another
five
ten
more
years,
it's
going
to
be
much
more
beneficial
than
having
a
business
shut
down
and
not
be
able
to
give
them
two
months
of
relief
right.
I
So
I
really
hope
we're
taking
a
look
at
this
with
the
long-term
play,
especially
as
the
vaccine
comes
up,
for
example,
some
stats
that
came
from
my
business
from
july
27th
to
november
19th.
We
were
able
to
to
open
and
under
really
clean
restrictions
that
we
upheld
to
the
highest
level,
but
in
the
end
we
weren't
able
to
gain
the
financial.
I
guess
you
would
call
it
we
weren't
able
to
gain
that
financial
gain
back
during
that
time.
Right.
I
So
now
the
biggest
thing
that
this
this
second
shutdown
that
has
really
impacted
us
is
they
took
away
our
our
major
revenues
season.
It
took
away
black
friday,
which
allows
us
to
really
kind
of
generate
revenue
to
get
us
through
the
summer
for
the
next
year,
as
well
as
the
the
christmas
holiday,
which
now
that
was
kind
of
the
final
lifeline
that
we
had
for
this
year
of
2020
of
2020,
and
that
was
gone.
I
So
a
lot
of
us
are
now
in
a
really
really
bad
position
and,
as
you
guys
know,
january
is
kind
of
the
new
year's
resolutions.
So
for
the
wellness
industry
to
take
away
that
income
is
a
lot
of
us
are
really
kind
of
scratching
our
heads
trying
to
figure
out
how
this
is
going
to
happen.
People
can't
come
to
our
gyms.
We
can't
open
up
until
january
and,
as
you
guys
know,
it
takes
anywhere
between
three
to
four
weeks
to
really
kind
of
re
ramp
back
up
any
kind
of
business.
I
After
closing,
so
revenue
still
won't
be
normal
until
probably
mid
to
late
february,
if
we
were
able
to
open
up
on
january
4th
so,
but
when
it
comes
down
to
it,
the
things
that
we
were
doing
over
the
last
few
months
that
we
were
open
helped
us
actually
mitigate
any
kind
of
risk
right.
So
we
put
together
a
lot
of
different
procedures
in
the
studio
that
kept
our
clients
safe.
It
worked
some
of
the
procedures
that
we
put
together
where,
for
example,
every
single
one
of
our
visits
are
by
employment.
I
Only
now
granted,
you
know
the
fitness
industry
in
the
wellness
industry
does
vary
between
big
box,
small
independent
own
gyms,
different
sizes
across
the
board,
from
a
couple
thousand
square
feet
to
to
twenty
thirty
thousand
square
feet.
The
next
thing
we
did
is
hey:
if
you're
feeling
sick,
don't
come
to
the
studio
and
we're
not
also
gonna.
Allow
you
to
come
to
the
studio.
We
also
mandated
clients
to
follow
to
wear
masks
at
all
time,
we're
also
doing
temperature
checks.
I
Everyone
must
sanitize
their
hands
upon
entering
our
facilities,
as
well
as
upon
leaving
plenty
of
physical
distancing
with
eight
by
eight
or
more,
depending
on
the
location,
no
sharing
of
equipment
and
no
more
than
10
people
within
a
training
room
right.
That
includes
teachers
as
well,
so
our
class
sizes
are
extremely
extremely
small.
I
On
top
of
that,
we
have
a
ton
of
different
types
of
hvac
ventilations
and
we've
rearranged
our
studios
and
our
facilities
to
allow
for
ample
airflow.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
these
systems
already
in
place
and
over
the
time,
my
studio
alone,
we
had
about
twenty
thousand,
I'm
sorry.
We
had
about
two
thousand
visits.
We
had
zero
situations
of
infection
of
covet
19.
I
In
my
studio
now
amongst
the
members
of
the
philadelphia
fitness
coalition,
we
have
over
40
members
in
that
who
have
been
we've
been
gathering
our
data
because,
honestly,
we
have
some
of
the
best
contact
tracing
software.
If
you
really
consider
it
because
everyone
has
to
it,
has
to
come
by
appointment,
so
we
have
their
information,
their
location
where
they
live,
who
they
were
in
class
with
who
the
teacher
was,
and
we
can
contact
everybody
at
a
moment's
notice.
I
I
want
to
make
sure.
That's
under
that's
understood,
that's
less
than
point
zero,
zero,
nine
percent
of
visits.
What
does
that
mean
right?
It
means
every
single
restriction
and
policy
procedure
we've
already
put
in
place.
It
means
it's
working
regardless
of
not
if
the
health
department
is
actually
going
out
and
collecting
the
data
or
if
we're
self-soliciting
it
right,
even
at
a
hundred
times
worse
rates,
we're
still
less
than
one
percent.
I
There's
really
not
much
more,
we
can
do
when
it
comes
to
keeping
our
clients
safe
right
and
now.
We
also
understand
that
there
are,
you
know
some
facilities
out
there
that
aren't
following
all
the
procedures,
but
even
with
that
the
rates
are
still
significantly
low
right.
So
that's
one
thing
I
think
is
really
important
to
know.
The
procedures
that
we
have
in
place
are
working
right,
so
our
goal
for
the
philadelphia
fitness
coalition
is
to
work
with
the
health
department
to
find
a
better
way
for
it.
I
We
understand
there's
a
lot
of
things
going
on
right
now
with
finances
that
are
unsure
right,
any
kind
of
funding
the
timing
that
is
going
to
be
coming.
We
don't
know
too
much
about
that,
but
if
there
is
a
better
way
forward
for
us
to
either
agree
upon
specific
procedures
that
all
fitness
businesses
are
already
doing
or
adding
more
procedures
to
to
certify
that
they're
they're
doing
it
on
a
monthly
basis
or
reporting
their
standards,
we
got
to
figure
out
what
that
next
step
is,
so
we
can
save
our
own
business.
I
I
Doors
were
for
good
and
that's
a
very,
very
scary
situation,
because
in
the
end,
fitness
and
wellness
facilities
here
in
philadelphia,
we
are
responsible
for
the
health
and
wellness
and
I'm
not
talking
reactive,
we're
not
talking
about
health
care
systems.
We're
talking
about
proactive.
We
are
the
first
line
of
defense
when
it
comes
to
keeping
our
clients
or
our
communities
healthy
and
safe
philadelphia
has
an
obesity
rate.
That's
almost
at
over
50
percent.
I
We
know
covid
runs
rampant
with
individuals
that
have
comorbidities
as
well
as
are
a
minority
right.
Unfortunately,
based
off
of
the
the
the
demographics,
blacks
and
minorities
are
those
also
individuals
who
are
in
the
50
obesity
high
blood
pressure,
hypertension.
What
does
that
mean?
We
need
to
move,
we
need
to
keep
people
active,
eat
healthy
and
keep
their
immune
system
as
high
as
possible.
I
Right
now,
we're
in
a
situation
where
we
look
outside
it's
snowing
outside
everyone
is
indoors
no
one's
moving,
no
one's
eating
healthy
they're,
getting
grabbing
the
first
thing
that
they
see
at
the
fridge
and
their
health
and
wellness
is
going
to
continue
to
decline.
If
we
can't
keep
our
clients
and
our
communities
moving
and
mentally
and
physically
safe
covert,
19
is
going
to
continue
to
be
rampant
amongst
our
community.
I
So
we
have
a
lot
of
different
questions
that
we
want
to
hopefully
be
able
to
to
bring
up
and
and
see
if
we
get
some
answers
for
it
is.
I
think
some
of
the
questions
have
somewhat
been
answered
throughout
this
this
meeting
and
we
really
appreciate
everyone
being
as
open
as
possible.
The
first
one
is
is
regarding
any
kind
of
funding
right.
We've
already
mentioned
already
that
a
lot
of
fitness
businesses
did
not
receive
it.
I
That
hurt
a
lot
of
people
right.
If
there
is
additional
funding,
how
fast
can
we
get
it
because
2020
is
almost
over?
How
fast
can
we
get
it?
What's
the
actual
procedure
or
process
look
like
in
terms
of
how
do
you
become
eligible?
Are
there
already
pros
policies
in
place
to
be
able
to
make
the
process
faster?
Can
we
make
it
less
cumbersome
for
people
right?
Another
question,
I
think,
is
really
important.
Is
you
know
what
what
are
the
actual
targets
for
that
january,
1st
or
january
4th
opening
date
right?
I
What's
the
expectation?
Where
does
the
city
need
to
be
when
it
comes
to
how
many
coveted
rates
covered
numbers
per
day
in
order
for
us
to
continue
doing
business
right?
If
not,
how
much
longer
is
that
is
that
pushback
gonna
be
will
be
another
two
weeks,
three
weeks
four
weeks,
a
lot
of
that
information
is
going
to
be
critical
because
now,
unfortunately,
most
of
our
businesses
can't
really
foresee
past
two
weeks.
I
We
just
can't
we're
literally
doing
everything
we
can
to
generate
revenue
every
single
day
and
to
understand
what
that
potential
timeline
will
look
like
if
we
are
able
to
open
is
gonna.
Allow
us
to
figure
out
this
holiday
season,
which
has
already
been
taken
from
us
then.
Lastly,
you
know,
I
think
the
data
is
extremely
powerful,
because
the
information
that
we've
been
able
to
gather
showed
that
very,
very
low
rate,
which
means
whatever
we're
doing
is
working.
I
If
we
are
able
to
come
to
an
agreement
in
terms
of
some
sort
of
compliance
right.
What
does
that
look
like
next?
Do
we
need
to
self-certify?
Do
we
need
to
be
submitting
information
on
on
a
monthly
basis
to
the
cdc,
because
they
don't
have
the
the
resources
to
actual
or
to
the
health
department,
because
they
don't
have
the
resources
to
actually
gather
that?
What
does
that
look
like
how
many
more
groups
do
we
need
to
jump
through
in
order
for
us
to
allow
our
businesses
to
be
safe?
I
And
those
are
the
kind
of
questions
that
I
think
that
are
really
important
and
not
just
for
our
our
industry,
but
for
industries
across
the
board,
and
you
know
my
heart
goes
out
to
the
to
the
restaurant
groups,
because
yeah,
you
guys
are
also
being
decimated.
This
is
a
tough
time,
but
I
think
more
than
anything
we
need
to
work
together
to
allow
us
to
save
ourselves
in
the
meantime,
while
keeping
our
our
community
and
our
neighbors
safe.
B
Hi,
thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you,
councilman
dom
and
thank
you,
everyone
who
is
with
us
right
now,
osai!
Thank
you
for
kicking
things
off.
My
name
is
shoshanna
katz
and
I
am
the
founder
and
owner
of
bpm
fitness
and
we're
located
on
spring
garden
right
in
the
heart
of
the
art
museum
in
the
fairmount
neighborhoods.
B
We
celebrated
recently
our
third
anniversary
in
november
on
november
18th
of
this
year,
and
we
were
in
the
process
of
talking
to
a
local
developer
here
in
the
city,
about
opening
our
second
location
on
washington
avenue,
which
would
have
also
served
the
grad
hospital
in
point
breeze,
neighborhoods,
and
that
that
those
conversations
were
prior
to
the
recent
shutdown
on
march
16th.
We
voluntarily
shut
our
doors
prior
to
the
city
mandate.
Like
many
of
our
colleagues,
we
chose
to
close
before
the
city
asked
us
to.
B
This
was
not
something
that
was
done
easily.
There
weren't
many
online
platforms
that
could
really
handle
what
a
fitness
studio
needs
right
away.
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
back-end
work
in
terms
of
signing
up
for
a
class
making
sure
the
participants
get
the
links
making
sure
everyone
has
everything
that
they
need,
and
there
just
wasn't
technology
readily
available
for
us
to
do
that.
So
that
was
a
bit
of
a
learning
curve
for
all
of
us.
B
There
we
worked
to
create
a
schedule
of
about
three
to
five
virtual
offerings
a
day
and
in
the
very
beginning,
attendance
was
great.
You
know
people
were
very
into
it.
They
were
just
happy
to
be
able
to
be
moving
their
bodies
and
have
access
to
it,
but
over
time
participation
is
absolutely
dwindled
and
also
we
are
faced
with
the
challenge
of
competing
with
larger
national
platforms
like
peloton
and
mirror
they
have
millions
of
dollars
behind
them
to
create
incredible.
On-Demand,
live
stream
experiences
where
a
place
like
bpm
and
other
members
of
the
coalition.
B
We
just
don't
have
the
funds
and
the
means
to
afford
to
give
that
same
kind
of
experience.
That's
just
not
our
specialty
online
and
virtual
is
not
what
we
do.
We
specialize
in
the
in-person
connection
and
working
with
clients
currently
bpm,
is
bringing
in
around
40
of
the
revenue
that
we
were
bringing
in
exactly
one
year
ago
today,
and
that
is
up
in
comparison
to
what
the
the
last
few
months
have
been.
Our
gross
sales
for
april
were
seven
thousand
dollars
of
2020
april
of
2020,
where
april
of
2019
they
were
30..
B
The
the
the
drop
is
is
7,
000
doesn't
even
cover
my
rent.
It's
been
difficult
to
maintain
membership
due
to
our
diminished
in-person
options
and
our
members
financials
hardships.
B
We
developed
multiple
streams
of
revenue
beyond
our
virtual
class
options
and
our
outdoor
class
options
and
we
cut
costs
in
every
possible
way
examples
of
cutting
costs.
We
got
rid
of
our
branded
mobile
app
because
it
was
300
a
month
that
we
just
didn't
see
worth
spending.
We
changed
insurance
companies
because
it
saved
us
several
hundred
dollars
a
year.
I
mean
at
this
point.
All
of
our
businesses
are
in
survival
mode,
and
I
know
that
that
is
a
shared
experience
between
everyone
here
today.
B
It's
surviving
and
getting
through
this
paying
our
coaches
was
our
top
priority
and
we
were
very
fortunate
to
be
able
to
continue
to
pay
our
our
coaches
since
shutdown,
and
that
was
able
to
be
done
initially
because
of
ppp
loans,
and
we
were
very
lucky
to
be
able
to
receive
that.
But,
as
we
all
know,
that's
a
very
limited
time
in
which
we
had
that
money
for
and
we
had
to
use
all
of
it
by
the
end
of
june,
and
we
are
in
december,
our
front
desk
staff.
B
We
had
to
let
go
in
terms
of
pay,
but
we
also
continued
to
pay
any
staff
member
who
depended
on
bpm
solely
as
their
sole
source
of
income
during
the
few
months
that
we
were
able
to
reopen
so
from
for
bp,
so
gyms
were
allowed
to
reopen
at
the
end
of
july.
Bpm
chose
to
reopen
in
the
middle
of
august
just
to
give
it
time
to
see
how
things
were
playing
out
and
when
we
felt
that
you
know
there
had
been
no
issues
with
compliance.
There
were
no
issues
with
covet
cases.
B
It
was
safe
for
us
to
reopen
we
reopened
in
august
and
so
from
the
middle
of
august.
Through
november,
we
had
over
1176
indoor
visits.
We
had
one
client
bring
a
covet
case
into
our
facility
and
we
had
zero
transmissions,
and
this
was
because
of
the
diligent
best
practices
that
we
and
many
of
our
colleagues
have
in
place.
These
best
practices-
I
know
psy
reviewed
some
of
them,
but
just
to
reiterate,
they
include
and
they're
not
limited
to
masks
must
be
worn
in
the
studio
at
all
times,
and
there
are
no
exceptions.
B
Temperature
checks
are
taken
upon
arrival,
we
require
hand
sanitizing
upon
contactless
check-in
as
well
as
any
time
a
participant
or
a
member
entered
or
exited
any
part
of
the
the
studios.
We
have
two
studios
of
bpm.
If
they
entered
the
cycling
studio,
they
had
to
hand
sanitize
when
they
exited
they
did
as
well.
We
reduced
the
capacity
of
classes
to
less
than
50.
There
were
no
more
than
10
people
in
an
individual
studio
at
once.
To
give
you
an
idea
of
the
size
of
our
studio,
our
each
studio
is
about
over
1500
square
feet.
B
B
Every
person
in
the
strength
studio
had
about
an
eight
foot.
By
eight
foot
box.
There
was
no
shared
equipment.
Everyone
had
to
have
their
own
and
sanitize
it
once
class
is
complete.
Class
schedules
were
spaced
out
to
provide
for
ample
cleaning
and
ventilation
in
the
space
doors
to
the
studios
remained
open
at
all
times,
staff
sanitized
all
high
touch
surfaces
during
every
shift
and
between
every
class.
To
give
you
an
idea,
that's
roughly
about
three
to
four
times
per
day
and
all
of
the
products
that
were
used
were
epa
registered
disinfectants
and
sanitizers.
B
We
communicated
with
clients
and
staff
that,
if
they
felt
sick,
they
needed
to
stay
home
if
they
came
in
contact
with
anyone
who
tested
positive,
they
had
to
remain
home
until
they
took
had
a
negative
copa
test
and
all
of
my
staff
were
tested
monthly
for
covet
19..
The
restrictions
that
fitness
studios
have
been
enforcing
are
some
of
the
strictest
in
place
among
any
brick
among
many
brick
and
mortar
businesses.
B
Here
in
philadelphia,
we
create
a
controlled
environment
where
contact
tracing
is
easily
done
again,
like
I
said,
because
of
our
systems
that
we
have,
you
have
to
sign
up
and
then,
when
you
sign
up
for
classes,
we
have
all
of
your
information,
and
we
know
when
you
come
into
the
studio.
We
know
who
has
been
in
class
with
you
when
we
had
that
one
person
come
in
with
a
covet
case.
B
B
We've
always
maintained
a
high
level
of
cleanliness
as
well
as
expectations
from
our
community,
and
we,
while
we
have
had
zero
issues
with
compliance,
we're
also
not
afraid
to
have
the
hard
conversations
to
make
sure
that
the
it's
enforced,
every
small
business
is
being
forced
to
make
a
really
hard
hard
decisions
right
now
and
every
day
that
passes
another
one
is
being
forced
to
make
the
heartbreaking
decision
to
close
its
doors
for
good
with
every
closure.
B
I
know
it
started
with
some
questions,
but
to
reiterate,
what
do
you
need
to
see
in
terms
of
data
and
science
based
facts
in
order
for
us
to
be
able
and
allowed
to
safely
reopen?
What
do
you
need
from
us
to
prove
compliance?
We
have
been
told
that
they
just
don't
believe
that
we
are
following
the
rules.
What
can
we
do
to
show
you
that
we
are?
B
How
can
our
industry,
specifically
the
small,
locally
owned
studios,
be
represented
when
it
comes
to
making
decisions
that
affect
our
industry?
We
have
been
left
out
of
the
conversation
literally
up
until
this
point,
and
we
are
nine
months
almost
a
year
into
this
into
this,
and
the
fact
that
we
have
are
now
just
entering
the
conversation
while
frustrating
I'm
really
happy
to
finally
have
a
chance
to
speak,
but
we
need
to
be
involved
in
these
conversations.
B
And,
lastly,
how
can
our
industry
get
much-needed
financial
support
and
again
not
in
terms
of
a
loan,
because
we're
already
carrying
so
much
debt,
as
many
of
us
are
but
forgivable
grants?
How
are
we
able
to
get
this
financial
support
to
allow
our
businesses
to
reopen
reopen
safely?
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
time.
A
I
Correct
we
had
the
exact
numbers
was
four
hundred
and
eight
thousand
four
hundred
thirty
nine
four
hundred
eight
four
hundred
eight
four
hundred
thirty
nine
thousand
visits
from
july
till
november
19th
and
it
looks
like
it's
36.
reported
in
cases
of
covet-
that's
less
than
a
percent.
A
Right-
and
so
you
know
I
had
I
mentioned
the
beginning
of
this
session
today-
that
I
had
a
lot
of
written
testimony
from
fitness
centers.
I
think
I
had
10
testimonies
that
were
submitted
in
writing
and
it's
including
ripped
philadelphia,
lumos
yoga,
unite
fitness,
subversus
focus
bar
yoga
habit,
war,
horse
wool,
cycling,
studio,
cko,
kickboxing,
open
box
athletics,
and
when
I
looked
through
the
testimonies
and
read
them
those
that
submitted
information,
there
were
sixteen
thousand
two
hundred
visits
and
in
those
cases
there
was
only
three
three
covert
cases
out
of
sixteen
thousand
two
hundred.
A
So
I
think
you
make
a
pretty
strong
point.
I
mean
I'm
sold
on
it.
I'm
also
want
to
read
into
the
as
part
of
this
record
the
letter
from
dr
stephen
hunt
from
the
inter
interventional
oncologist
university
of
penn
who's
in
support
of
fitness
enterprises
as
an
essential
business,
and
believes
that
fitness
centers
should
be
open
with
the
proper
guidelines.
A
I'm
not
sure
commerce
is
still
on,
because
this
has
gone
pretty
long,
but
we
can
try
to
set
up
soshana
and
osai
a
meeting
with
both
of
you
with
the
commerce
department
with
the
health
department
and
do
exactly
what
we're
asking
the
restaurant
people
to
do,
and
that
is
come
to
the
meeting
with
what
you
believe
are
the
safest
ways
possible
to
reopen
what
the
guidelines
would
be
and
see
if
the
commerce
department,
the
health
department,
you
guys,
can
come
to
an
agreement
that
we
can
get
you
open.
A
Our
goal
is
to
like
make
things
happen
and
get
this
done,
and
I
will
tell
you
that
I
agree
with
you
on
the
on
the
health
fitness.
I
noticed
from
my
own
personal
story.
I
wear
a
fitbit
and
typically
I
average
ten
thousand
steps
a
day,
but
during
this
pandemic,
I'm
down
to
like
three
or
four
thousand
so
clearly
we're
not
as
healthy
as
we
were
before
and
and
fitness
centers
are
important
anyway.
A
So
I'm
going
to
close
with
just
a
few
comments,
be
very
brief,
but
today
has
really
showed
us
that
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
goes
into
the
survival
of
an
extremely
important
business,
such
as
the
hospitality
business
and
whether
it's
restaurants,
whether
it's
hotels,
whether
it's
fitness,
centers,
arts
and
culture,
or
our
visit
philly
or
any
of
those
cultural
organizations,
they're
so
important
to
our
economy.
A
We
have
to
make
sure
that
they
survive
every
one
of
them,
and
so
hopefully,
today
we
can
connect
those
institutions,
those
businesses
with
the
commerce
department,
the
health
department
and
come
out
with
a
safe
restart.
But
I'm
really
looking
for
this
to
happen
this
week.
We
can't
really
wait
till
next
week.
It's
got
to
happen
now,
and
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
their
time
today
and,
as
I've
said
before,
we'll
be
stronger
through
this.
A
If
we
stick
together-
and
I
hope
these
conversations
today
will
lead
to-
hopefully
better
communications
decision
making,
but
really
having
solid,
concrete
ways
that
businesses
can
reopen
in
a
safe
way.
So
this
concludes
the
hearing
on
resolution.
Two:
zero,
zero,
six,
nine
nine.
The
hearing
is
adjourned.
Thank
you
very
much
and
be
safe
out
there
with
the
weather.
Thank
you
very
much.