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The Committee on Intergenerational Affairs & Aging of the Council of the City of Philadelphia held a Public Hearing on Tuesday, February 22, 2022, at 10:00 AM to hear testimony on the following items:
210091 Resolution authorizing the City Council Committee on Intergenerational Affairs and Aging to hold public hearings examining solutions to the ongoing housing crisis impacting senior Philadelphians.
B
Due
to
the
current
public
health
emergency
city,
council
committees
are
currently
meeting
remotely
and
we
are
using
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teams
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instructions
for
how
the
public
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offer
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testimony
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in
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public
hearing.
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that
are
published
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and
legal
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to
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B
I
now
know
that
the
hour
has
come.
Miss
khalil.
Would
you
please
call
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to
take
attendance
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that
are
in
attendance?
Will
please
indicate
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few
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words
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C
B
Good
morning,
I
am
president,
thank
you.
A
quorn
of
the
committee
is
present
and
the
hearing
is
now
called
to
order.
This
is
a
public
hearing
of
the
committee
on
intergenerational
affairs
and
aging
regarding
resolution.
Number
two
one:
zero,
zero,
nine
one
miss
khalil.
Will
you
please
read
the
title
of
the
resolution.
B
Before
we
begin
to
hear
testimony
from
the
witnesses
we
have
for
you
today,
everyone
has
been
invited
to
the
meeting.
To
testify
should
be
aware
that
this
public
hearing
will
be
recorded
because
the
hearing
is
public
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and
viewers
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of
privacy.
By
continuing
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be
in
this
meeting,
you
are
consenting
to
being
recorded
additionally
prior
to
recognizing
members
for
the
questions
or
comments
they
have
for
witnesses.
B
B
Before
we
begin,
I
would
like
to
make
a
few
brief
remarks
on
the
hearing
today.
First,
I
would
like
to
thank
you
all
so
much
for
being
here.
As
a
chair
of
the
committee
of
intergenerational
affairs
and
aging,
it
is
exciting
to
continue
my
hearing
series
on
how
the
housing
crisis
is
impacting
senior
philadelphians,
with
each
hearing
that
we've
heard
so
far
on
this
issue
facing
senior
homeowners,
senior
renters
and
now
seniors
experience,
homelessness
and
who
are
in
shelters.
B
As
our
previous
hearings
have
demonstrated,
thousands
of
seniors
across
the
city
are
just
one
step
away
from
losing
their
homes.
Many
homeowners
cannot
keep
up
with
basic
home
repairs
and
are
struggling
to
afford
their
mortgage
payments.
Others
are
limiting
homes
with
tangled
titles
that
are
at
risk
of
being
lost
at
any
moment.
B
Other
seniors
who
rent
their
homes
lived
on
fixed
incomes,
which
simply
cannot
keep
pace
with
the
rising
costs
of
rental
units
across
the
city,
and
then,
when
you
begin
to
consider
the
growing
number
of
seniors
who
are
struggling
with
substance
abuse
disorders
who
are
supporting
younger
family
members
or
who
are
facing
serious
health
issues
without
access
to
health
care
to
the
health
care
they
need.
The
magnitude
of
this
crisis
becomes.
B
B
B
Many
of
them
lack
families
who
fall
back
on,
have
disabilities
or
are
just
unable
to
work
and
many
others
live
their
lives
in
a
revolving
door
of
shelters
and
struggle
to
ever
ever
ever
find
permanent
home,
as
we
here
today
as
we
are
today,
the
with
the
baby,
boomer
population
aging
and
many
seniors
living
in
deep
poverty.
This
is
a
growing
problem
that
must
be
addressed
with
urgency,
and
it
will
require
cross-sector
all
hands
on
deck
approach
to
finding
long-term
solutions.
B
B
I'm
looking
forward
to
hearing
from
seniors
who
have
first-hand
experience
with
homelessness
and
the
shelter
system,
policy,
experts
and
seniors
living
senior
serving
organizations
today,
and
I'm
grateful
for
their
participation,
and
I
also
would
like
to
welcome
councilmember
gautier
to
today's
hearing
and
thank
you
for
joining
us
today.
Councilmember
and
I
would
like
to
open
it
up
for
any
further
comments.
I
Good
morning,
madam
chair,
and
to
the
members
of
the
intergenerational
affairs
and
aging
committee
and
to
all
of
the
panelists
and
everyone
watching
at
home,
I'd
like
to
thank
my
council
colleague
and
chair
kendra,
brooks
for
inviting
me
to
today's
meeting
and
for
shining
a
light
on
the
rising
number
of
seniors
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
or
living
in
temporary
emergency
housing.
I
Seniors
in
our
city
are
experiencing
a
housing
crisis
that
sometimes
has
violent
impacts.
Just
two
weeks
ago,
housing
activists,
asantewa
and
kuma
toure
found
herself
fighting
against
an
illegal
eviction
where
she
experienced
threats
of
violence
fearing
for
her
safety.
Mrs
santoa
had
to
resort
to
having
a
network
of
friends
take
turns
staying
at
her
home
to
protect
her.
She
had
to
call
the
police
multiple
times
as
a
result
of
the
intimidation
she
faced.
I
I
B
D
Thank
you
very
much,
and
I
will
be
very
brief.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
the
sponsor
chair
of
this
committee
for
this
important
hearing
today,
and
I
especially
want
to
thank
all
of
the
participants
and
the
panelists
who
will
be
speaking
about
things
which
I
know
have
been
extremely
dire
and
painful
and
sometimes
have
been
some
of
the
hardest
moments
in
a
person's
life.
D
I
want
the
panelists
and
for
this
for
our
listeners
to
know
that
the
city
council
is
listening,
we're
receptive
and
we're
open
to
a
different
way
of
doing
things.
I
think
my
colleagues,
both
council
member,
brooks
and
councilmember
gautier
have
been
on
the
cutting
edge
of
leading
a
housing
agenda
through
the
city
of
philadelphia.
D
We
know
that
when
we
really
pull
together
as
a
city,
we
apply
different
solutions
and
we
change
our
practices
both
internally
and
externally,
and
how
we
reach
out
to
people
that
things
can
dramatically
change
in
what
was
once
the
fourth
highest
evicting
city
in
the
nation
over
the
last
two
years.
Philadelphia
through
a
number
of
different
policy
changes
and
most
definitely
with
support
from
the
federal
government.
Around
rent
assistance
has
been
able
to
reduce
our
evictions
by
over
by
almost
75
percent
two
years
in
a
row.
D
So
from
20
000
evictions
that
we
are
processing
every
year.
You
know
we
are.
D
We
are
figuring
out
how
to
get
control
of
a
situation
that
has
been
so
inhumane
and
so
traumatizing
and
cruel,
and
then
I
think
the
most
important
thing
that
you
know
we
want
to
hear
today
is
you
know
from
our
seniors
from
individuals
who
are
seeing
things
that
we
can't
predict
or
are
sharing
stories
that
we
simply
don't
hear
nearly
enough
in
our
city
council
body,
even
despite
all
the
work
that
we've
done,
something
needs
to
change
again,
it's
not
enough.
D
You
know
what
we've
been
doing
has
shown
real
results,
but
it's
still
not
enough
and
we
have
to
keep
pushing
and
going,
and
so
we're
gonna
do
what
we
always
do,
which
is
rely
on
the
voices
of
our
communities
and
our
seniors
in
particular,
to
help
guide
us
along
this
way,
and
I
very
much
look
forward
to
the
hearing.
Thank
you
very
much.
Councilmember
brooks
thank.
B
C
The
first
panelist
this
morning,
we'll
have
four
speakers
essentially
incremental
ray
robert
waters,
dominique
howell
and
kathy
fleming,
essentially
you're
up
first.
B
J
Certainly
good
morning,
everyone
good
morning
to
the
city,
council
and
all
those
listening
and
viewing
my
name
is
asa
antoine
kruma
toure,
my
pronouns.
Are
she
her
hers
and
I
live
in
a
house
in
west
philadelphia.
J
I
am
very
grateful
for
this
opportunity
to
share
the
terrorism
that
I
recently
experienced
in
my
home,
terrorism
that
lasted
10
days
from
february
the
6th
to
february
16th
into
thursday
february,
the
17th
where
the
new
owner
of
the
house
I
live
in
alvin
morrison
served
me
a
30-day
notice
on
february
the
5th
but
sought
to
move
in.
While
I
still
live
here
or
the
next
day
february.
J
The
6th
each
day
between
february
the
6th
and
february
16th
was
a
daily
torrent
of
sexist
language,
racist
language,
the
b
word,
the
n
word.
The
f
word
directed
toward
my
queer
friends:
threats
with
we'll
shoot,
we'll
shoot
up
everybody
or
threats
of
well.
I
have
bullets
that
will
go
through
a
bulletproof
vest
all
types
of
very
violent
language
directed
toward
homeless
people
toward
poor
people.
Oh
you're,
just
an
old
b-word.
You
need
to
go
to
an
old
folks
home
or
you
need
to
go
to
a
homeless,
shelter,
etc.
J
I
had
some
of
the
best
security,
the
most
well-disciplined
security
you
could
ever
imagine,
and
we
had
to
do
this
and
given
the
level
of
violence
that
we
experienced
and
we
recorded
for
those
10
days.
I
know
for
a
fact
that
god's
grace
is
good,
but
it
helps
to
have
good
friends
who
are
willing
to
risk
their
safety
in
life
to
make
sure
you
are
safe.
So
I'm
very
thankful
for
those
friends
who
were
able
to
do
that.
One
of
the
legal
issues
in
my
situation
was
a
case
of
the
leases.
J
J
J
The
way
it
was
worded.
It
gave
the
appearance
that
I
was
living
in
some
type
of
rooming
house.
That
was
never
the
case.
Due
to
the
great
and
powerful
legal
assistance
I
had
from
mr
vic
patel
of
community
legal
services
we
reached
out
to
my
previous
roommate.
J
She
kept
her
original
lease
and
her
lease
and
mine
are
worded
the
same
meaning
we
were
not
limited
to
one
bedroom
or
another.
It
was
just
the
property.
The
house,
the
least
the
new
owner
has
mr
alvin
morrison,
says
on
the
front
page
front
bedroom
and
it's
in
bold,
large
font
and
it's
clear
that
mr
taran
small,
the
previous
owner,
sought
to
deceive
alvin,
morrison
and
others
by
forging
the
lease
in
that
way.
J
So
that's
that's
something
we
need
to
pay
attention
to
in
terms
of
leases
and
how
they're
worded
titles
and
deeds
and
so
forth
to
property.
We
also
know
that
there's
been
recent
scandals
of
deeds
and
titles
being
falsified
or
forged,
etc.
So
these
are
things
we
need
to
look
at,
but
again
I
am
an
older
woman
and
I'm
64
years
old
and
I'm
not
ashamed
of
my
age.
J
So
I
don't
understand
why
the
derogatory
marks
about
my
age,
these
young
black
people,
thought
were
necessary,
but
we
need
to
also
think
about
those
people
who
may
not
have
the
community
support,
who
may
not
know
their
rights,
who
may
not
know
where
to
turn
if
they
are
found
in
such
a
situation,
what
we
call
a
move-in
eviction
or
eviction
by
intimidation.
J
J
But
I
was
told
by
several
people
and
mr
vic
patel
they've,
never
seen
a
case
of
illegal
eviction
like
mine,
where
a
new
owner
seeks
to
move
in
and
bring
in
all
their
friends
and
family
who
all
live
other
places
who
are
not
homeless,
but
they
seek
to
move
in
to
squeeze
me
out,
I'm
not
to
be
squeezed
out.
J
I
fought
back
and
I'm
glad
I
did,
but
I
want
what
happened
to
me
to
help
others
as
I
was
telling
councilmember
gautier
a
little
while
ago,
I'm
also
survivor
of
domestic
violence
and
my
abusive
ex,
never
locked
me
in
a
room,
but
three
people
in
this
situation
locked
me
and
two
friends
of
mine
in
my
room
and
they
did
not
let
us
out
and
we
did
not
get
out
to
the
police
game.
J
J
So
we
want
things
that
are
designed
to
protect
tenants
when
a
landlord
chooses
to
sell
their
property
so
that
during
that
period
of
time
the
tenant
has
an
active
lease.
We
want
to
require
landlords
to
give
the
tenant
60
days,
not
just
30,
because
even
in
the
best
of
situations,
even
if
you
have
a
good
paying
job
30
days,
is
simply
not
enough
time
to
find
an
affordable,
safe
place
to
live.
J
J
You
have
to
pay
for
packing
pay
for
a
truck
pay
for
people
to
help
you
first
last
and
deposit
application
fees,
child
care-
if
you
have
small
children
while
you're
trying
to
move
moving,
is
very
expensive
and
you
should
not
have
to
go
into
debt
to
move
to
a
better
place,
a
safer
place
because
the
landlord
the
owner
decides
to
sell
their
property.
Certainly
it's
not
illegal
to
sell
your
own
property,
but
it
must
be
done
fairly
and
within
the
law.
J
So,
in
closing,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
all
for
your
time.
Thank
you
for
listening
and
again
I
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
my
dear
friend,
jen
bennett,
who
passed
away
last
week.
She
was
a
courageous
fighter
and
she
inspired
me.
I
also
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
sherry
honkala
of
the
poor
people's
economic
human
rights
campaign,
poor
people's
army,
because
I
learned
a
lot
from
these
two
women
and
it's
interesting
to
me
that
it's
women
like
us
who
are
leading
this
fight
for
safe,
affordable
housing.
B
B
G
At
project
homes
of
saint
columba,
I
I'm
going
to
tell
you
my
story
here
to
the
best
of
my
you
know,
I'm
going
to
tell
you
my
story,
all
right
being
homeless,
one
of
the
major
stumbling
blocks
for
me,
especially
for
seniors
I
feel
like
now
that
we
have
been
used
up
and
it
seems
like
people
will
just
put
us
out
like
a
piece
of
trash
or
something
now
that
I
now
that
I
have
been
using
up
and
up
for
the
friend
I
was
this.
I
was
raised
by
both
parents.
G
G
I
think
this
one
down
downhill,
I
couldn't
work.
Doctors
told
me,
I
couldn't
live
the
life
that
I
was
used
to
living
working
here
I
worked
every
day.
My
life
went
downhill
like
a
sparrow.
It
was
like
a
domino
effect
on
things.
Once
one
thing
happened,
then
it
was
something
else.
G
So
as
a
as
as
myself,
I
I
struggled
on
the
street
trying
to
take
medication.
It's
hard
to
take
medication
when
you're
homeless,
with
the
medical
problem
that
I
have.
I
have
diabetes
taking
medication
very
hard
and
with
my
heart
problems
and
lung
problems,
it
was,
it
was
terrible.
It
was
no
type
of
way
that
I
could
maintain.
G
I
was
trying
to
maintain
my
health
and
you
know
to
the
best
of
my
ability,
but
you
know
I
decided
I
I
you
know
I
have
to
have
a
change
in
my
life.
The
change
was
one
day
you
know
I
was.
I
went
to
a
some
community
center
somewhere
and
people
from
outreach
were
there
and
they
were
saying.
Well,
I
could
take
you
down
to
the
hub
of
hope
and
just
see
about
some
education
and
stuff
for
me.
I
got
down
there.
Then
I
was
then
I
was
shown.
G
This
is,
I
don't
know
which
I
know
taking
the
medication
I
mean
about.
I
had
like
three
surgeries
during
the
time
I
was
here
at
st
columbus
major
surgeries
synchro
it
wasn't
they
not.
They
couldn't
take
care
of
my
knees
at
that
time.
G
When
I
had
those
surgeries,
so
I
had
to
go
to
a
rehabilitation
nursing
home
to
learn
how
to
dress
my
wounds
and
and
stuff
like
that
it
would
have
been
nice
if
we
have
nurses
here
we
have
a
nurse
that
come
once
a
week,
but
if
she,
if
we
had
a
nurse
to
come
every
day
to
see
about
the
homeless
men's
needs
here
in
the
shelter
life
would
be
a
little
less
complicated
for
singers
and
not
you
know,
because
a
lot
of
us
have
physical
problems,
some
mental
problems,
you
know
and
emotionally
we're
we're
just
being
distorted.
G
But
I
I
mean
I'm
just
one
person,
but
I
see
it
with
my
own
eyes
here
staff.
You
know,
I
mean
the
staff
do
the
best.
They
can
you
know
working
with
the
seniors
here,
the
homeless,
and
I
mean
they,
the
ones
that
are
here.
They
they're
giving
it
all,
but
a
lot
of
them
aren't
qualified
to
do
the
medical
to
give
you
the
medical
tension
that
we
need.
G
So
I
mean
it
would
be
nice
to
have
someone
a
nurse
every
day,
someone
there
to
just
take
noticing
how
your
your
medical
situation
is.
Just
one
person
to
do
that,
because
case
managers
and
all
they
help
us
try
to
get
the
housing
support.
Staff
is
exactly
what
it
is
supportive
they
try
to
do
the
best
they
can
with
what
training
they
have.
You
know
if
they
have
more
training.
G
You
know,
I
think
I
I
guess
more
of
us
singers
would
do
a
lot
more
better.
You
know
I'm
just
one
of
the
lucky
ones.
You
know
I
I
did.
I
did
what
I
had
to
do.
I
had
to
get
off
off
the
street
for
my
medical
reasons,
so
I'd
be
dead
and
I
don't
want
to
do
that.
G
I
guess
you
could
say
it's
like
hair,
but
I
don't
even
know
what
the
hell
it
is,
but
and
in
the
addition
of
that,
I
also
have-
and
I
still
have
an
addiction
problem
which
I'm
working
on,
but
it
would
be
nice
if
they
had
someone
here
or
they
came
in
from
the
outside,
to
talk
with
some
of
us
seniors
about
addiction
and
and
the
way
addiction
and
homelessness
goes
together
and
the
mental
health
it
would
be.
G
It
would
be
a
great
insight
for
us
to
learn
these
things.
I
made
it
through
the
covet.
G
You
know
that's
one
of
the
first
things:
hey,
you
got
to
get
a
cody
test
and
the
shots
and
all
it
they
enforced
that
that's
what
that
was
one
of
the
the
things
that
you
had
to
do
in
order
to
even
get
in
here
I
had
got
that
opportunity
to
get
off
the
street
through
saint
columba
project
homes,
which
was
a
great
opportunity
for
me
now.
You
know
I
got
when
I
got
here.
I
just
had.
I
couldn't
get
three
meals
a
day.
G
G
You
know
they.
Some
people
tend
to
pick
with
the
wheat,
you
know
and
they
take
advantage
of
them.
So
a
lot
of
seniors
won't
come
in
to
shelters
and
all
because
they
don't
feel
safe.
G
G
G
G
It's
rough
and
the
the
shelter
system
it
is
you
see
it's
it's
somewhat
confident
it's
it's
like
a
mixing
motion.
It's
supposed
to
be
comforting
for
you
to
help
you
to
get
better.
G
You
know
mentally
sexually
and
emotionally,
with
with
the
case,
managers
or
people
advocating
for
you
to
get
housing
and
then
turn
around,
and
then
some
people
just
don't
give
a
damn
about
nothing,
they'd
be
like
hey,
they
did
it
to
the
cell.
That's
how
that
I
mean.
I
actually
heard
people
say
that
you
know
some
of
us
catch
bad,
I'm
not
going
to
say
luck.
G
G
So
you
know,
let
me
try
like
this
living
on
the
street.
You
can't
shower
you
can't
your
hygiene,
you
can't
you
can't
do
the
things
that
you
should
do
so
when
opportunity
for
a
third
chance
tonight.
I
took
it.
G
B
Thank
you
so
much
mr
waters
for
your
testimony.
Can
you
stay
on
the
line?
I
have
a
few
questions
for
you
sure.
Thank
you
so
much
our
next
person
for
testimony
is
dominique
howell.
Can
you
please
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
proceed
with
your
testimony?
Hi.
It's
dominique.
K
Howe,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak
today
good
morning,
everyone,
my
name,
is
dominique
hall,
an
independent
living
specialist
in
liberty,
resources
inc
a
center
for
independent
living
for
people
with
disabilities.
I'm
here
today
to
speak
on
the
ongoing
issues
that
seniors
with
disabilities
experience
regarding
housing
and
homelessness.
K
K
Not
only
was
she
displaced,
but
also
her
neighbors.
Unfortunately,
for
my
consumer,
she
is
not
able
to
afford
the
unfair
rent
increase
that
was
set
by
the
new
owners.
My
consumer
was
aware
of
the
possibility
of
the
sale
of
the
property
and
began
applying
for
units,
but
has
had
no
success
in
finding
another
place
due
to
the
many
waiting
lists
across
the
city
for
seniors.
With
this
circumstance,
my
consumer
will
be
completely
homeless
and
because
of
multiple
health
conditions
that
cost
her
disability,
she
will
not
be
able
to
be
placed
in
the
shelter
system.
K
My
consumer's
story
is
an
all-too-common
reality
for
many
of
our
consumers.
During
the
height
of
the
pandemic,
I
had
two
consumers
who
are
seniors,
experience,
homelessness
and
were
afraid
to
be
placed
in
the
shelters
because
of
their
health
conditions
and
disabilities.
K
These
are
just
a
few
stories
of
seniors
who
experience
homelessness,
but,
as
you
know,
the
number
continues
to
rise
for
many
reasons.
The
most
obvious
reason
is
the
lack
of
affordable,
accessible
housing
and
inaction
by
the
city
to
prioritize
funding
for
this
crisis.
Another
reason
is
the
long
process
to
obtain
home
and
community-based
services.
These
services
help
seniors
live
independently
in
the
community.
Without
them
many
consumers,
many
seniors,
are
becoming
unhoused
and
are
being
put
in
nursing
homes,
which
are
just
as
unsafe
as
shelters
due
to
the
conditions
of
many
buildings.
K
K
Oh
there,
it
is
I'm
sorry
there
is
another
highlight
to
this
ongoing
crisis
that
must
be
addressed
today,
which
is
the
point
in
time
count.
As
many
of
you
know,
the
pit
count
is
vital
to
the
data
of
the
unsheltered
homeless
population.
K
However,
the
challenge
with
this
count
is
that
many
of
our
seniors
that
are
homeless
will
not
be
counted
because
they
are
afraid
of
living
on
the
street,
so
instead
they
capture
squat
and
abandon
buildings
and
live
in
their
vehicles.
This
is
a
very
important
factor
to
consider
because
it
is
another
way
of
people
living
unsheltered.
In
closing,
it
is
important
that
we
find
ways
to
combat
the
ongoing
issues,
especially
doing
this.
Never
during
this
never-ending
pandemic.
I
would
like
to
thank
councilmember
brooks
for
her
diligent
work
in
housing,
advocacy
and
justice
for
all
philadelphia
residents.
B
L
Today,
I
wanted
to
discuss
two
significant
barriers
that
our
participants
face,
such
as
access
to
affordable
housing
and
the
resources
to
be
used
after
receiving
housing
vouchers
when
a
participant
walked
into
my
office,
with
the
housing
voucher
and
a
list
with
the
names
phone
numbers
and
responses
from
over
40
landlords
that
they
found
on
the
affordable
housing
website
that
pha
told
her
to
use.
They
were
told
by
those
landlords
that
they
don't
honor
vouchers.
L
This
is
unacceptable
when
a
participant
walked
in
and
said.
I
don't
want
to
be
in
a
shelter
anymore,
but
I
just
can't
afford
to
keep
applying
for
housing
proceeds.
To
show
me
four
hundred
dollars
worth
of
money
order,
receipts
four
hundred
dollars
that
they
had
to
strategically
set
aside
from
their
disability
check
to
pay
application
fees
to
landlords
with
no
intentions
of
renting
to
them.
It's
unacceptable
when
a
participant
needed
assistance
applying
for
senior
housing
when
it
was
available,
I
go
to
the
pha
website
and
then
I
attempt
to
access
the
application.
L
L
It's
been
mentally
physically
and
emotionally
challenging.
However,
despite
those
struggles,
policy
and
guidance
from
ohs
has
allowed
us
to
have
many
victories
for
our
community.
I've
had
many
successes
with
the
single
world
occupancy
program,
referrals,
which
has
led
to
many
individuals
obtaining
permanent
housing
collaborations
between
agencies
like
ours,
with
others,
has
provided
a
reliable
network
of
critical
services
during
the
peak
of
the
pandemic
for
our
seniors
and
others
suffering
from
housing
insecurity.
L
We
must
forget
to
affirm
that
every
life
has
value
and
every
person
deserves
to
be
safe
and
treated
with
dignity,
equity
and
equal
access
to
resources
are
vital.
We
owe
it
to
our
seniors
and
to
the
entire
community
to
not
only
examine
the
root
causes
of
homelessness,
but
to
be
active
agents
of
change
during
this
crisis.
B
Yes,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
testimony.
I
have
a
few
questions
for
the
panelists,
but
before
I
open
before
I
open
this
up
for
questions
to
my
fellow
committee
members,
my
first
question
is
for
miss
increments.
Hooray,
yes,
yes,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
story.
Once
again,
I've
been
following
it
very
closely
and
just
was
horrified
by
your
whole
experience
and
thank
you
for
your
courage.
B
So
my
question
for
you
is:
how
could
housing
laws
be
expanded
to
protect
other
senior
tenants
in
a
situation
like
yours,
where
the
landlord
sold
the
unit
and
the
tenant
still
has?
The
right
still
has
rights
to
the
property.
J
Well,
first,
let
me
say
my
little
joke
is.
As
councilmember
garcia
said,
I
was
a
strong
person,
I'm
not
strong,
I'm
just
ares.
That
knows
god,
but
I
think
for
all
the
laws
that
now
exist.
They
must
be
enforced,
that's
one.
J
J
J
Whatever
resources
code
enforcement
needs,
it
should
have
them
five
times.
J
J
J
J
J
Rents
should
not
be
allowed
to
increase
so
dramatically
from
year
to
year,
when
salaries
and
wages
do
not
increase
to
keep
up
to
keep
up
with
the
cost
of
inflation,
so
rent
control,
that's
real
good
cause.
It
has
teeth
and
organized
tenants
and
others
of
goodwill
who
believe
in
housing
justice,
because
if
we
say
housing
is
a
human
right,
we
have
to
make
it
so,
but
it's
up
to
us
as
a
community,
it's
up
to
us
as
tenants.
We
have
to
organize
ourselves.
J
We
must
organize
ourselves
and
it
should
now.
Let
me
just
say
this
councilmember
brooks.
I
was
very
disappointed
with
a
lieutenant
johnson,
a
black
female
supervisor
who
came
on
the
scene
on
tuesday
february,
the
8th
and
she's
making
a
determination
on
the
scene.
J
J
I
showed
her
my
lease
that
I
had
in
my
hand,
and
I
showed
her
the
signature
page
on
the
back
of
my
lease
and
they
are
the
same,
but
she
made
a
determination
to
side
with
the
new
owner.
Therefore,
she
gave
him
permission
to
cut
the
locks
on
my
workroom
door.
My
work
room
is
where
I
have
my
computer
and
my
printer.
J
I
need
my
computer
and
printer
to
look
for
another
place
to
submit
applications
to
submit
my
pay
stub
to
submit
a
copy
of
my
id
or
whatever
is
needed
to
help
me
continue
to
look
for
another
place
to
live,
so
the
police
told
me
to
take
the
lock
off.
I
told
them.
No,
so
mr
malik
tap
a
friend
of
alvin
morrison
cut
the
lock
off
my
work
room
door
and
left
my
computer,
my
printer
and
my
files
vulnerable
to
being
destroyed
or
thrown
out.
J
J
I
advised
the
new
owner
alvin
morrison,
to
a
to
take
advantage
of
the
same
resources.
That
educated
me.
I
text
him
the
contact
information
for
turn.
I
text
him
the
contact
information
for
community
legal
services.
I
still
have
the
text
he
didn't
take
advantage
of
any
of
that,
and
now
here
we
are
so
I
will
be
pursuing
all
legal
options
that
I
am
legally
entitled
to.
J
My
friends
and
I
want
to
especially
thank
the
eviction
defense
network,
who
made
sure
I
was
safe,
who
slept
on
my
sofa
who
slept
in
my
chairs,
because
these
people
would
come
in
and
try
to
push
people
around
and
would
call
me
the
b
word
and
inward
by
sitting
on
my
sofa
in
my
chair.
B
I
I
just
wanted
to
support
mr
santawa's.
You
know
point
that
we
need
to
enforce
the
laws
and
also
her
testimony
about
what
it
was
like
interacting
with
the
philadelphia
police
department
around
this
issue,
although,
as
as
assante
webb
kind
of
went
more
into
this
saga,
the
police
did
become
more
helpful
in
the
beginning.
I
I
was
very
surprised
at
their
reaction
to
what
was
going
on.
Illegal
addictions
are
supposed
to
be
just
that
illegal.
So
it
was
my
sense
that
if
we
called
the
police
about
this,
you
know
potentially
dangerous
situation.
I
They
would
assert
that
this
was
an
illegal
eviction
and
you
know
demand
that
these
folks
leave
mr
santawa
alone.
They
were
very
confused
and
unable
to
recognize
it
as
an
illegal
eviction,
and
it
took
multiple
calls
at
different
levels
of
the
police
department,
including
to
the
commissioner
to
say,
like
you
know,
you
guys
need
this
is
an
illegal
eviction.
I
You
guys
need
to
be
stronger
on
this,
and
so
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
some
sort
of
education
or
outreach
that
needs
to
happen
to
help
the
police
department
to
understand
all
the
ways
that
an
illegal
that
an
illegal
eviction
can
look
right,
because
this
was
like
not.
I
just
think
that,
because
what
happened
was
so
unique,
they
were
very
confused
about
it
and
I
think
that
led
to
this
going
on
for
like
a
really
long
time.
B
D
Yes,
thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair.
I
also
want
to
echo
council
member
gautier's
sentiments
and
the
urgency
of
our
pulling
together
a
dialogue
with
our
legal
advocates
and
and
specific
agencies
within
the
city,
as
I
think
was
demonstrated
by
the
testimony.
Some
of
the
comments
here
are
just
simply
shocking.
You
know
it
is
upsetting
to
hear
ms
fleming
talk
about.
D
You
know
her
her
clients
being
denied,
you
know
vouchers
as
a
source
of
income
when
source
of
income
discrimination
has
been
prohibited
in
our
city
for
for
a
while,
and
we
need
to
get
this
information
out
there.
I
do
also
feel,
like
you
know.
There
should
be
no
surprise
on
this
call
with
some
of
the
experiences
that
we've
heard
today
that
many
people
feel
that
this
is
pr.
D
You
know
this
country
has
has
elevated
private
property
to
the
point
where
any
number
of
things
can
happen
on
private
property
and
it's
shocking
right,
but
I
do
think
that
this
kind
of
ingrained
sort
of
attitude
of
I
own
this
you
know
almost
anything
goes-
has
really
got
to
be
changed
in
in
a
number
of
different
ways,
not
only
through
the
police
department,
because
that's
obviously,
when
things
escalate
to
such
an
extreme,
that
it
becomes
extremely
difficult
but
no
question,
but
I
do
think
we
need
to
have
ongoing
conversations
with
the
city
solicitor
we
and
the
district
attorney.
D
We
have
long
discussed
the
issue
of
specific
landlords,
potentially
violating
consumer
protection
laws,
other
types
of
things-
and
I
think
that
this
information
also
needs
to
go
out
loud
and
clear.
D
This
is
a
significant
harm
to
our
city.
It
is
a
burden
on
our
shelters.
It
is
a
devastating
impact
on
children
and
seniors
and
individuals
who
are
disabled.
So
it
is
a
city
issue.
This
is
not
just
a
private
issue
and
then
lastly,
I
guess
you
know,
I
think
this
is
something
that
council
member
brooks
and
gautier,
and
I
will
continue
to
work
on.
D
But
the
right
to
counsel
effort
rolls
out
in
two
zip
codes
in
19121
and
19139,
and
the
purpose
of
right
to
counsel
is
for
us
to
be
an
external
focused
agency,
bringing
information
resources
and
not
merely
just
legal
assistance
and
the
law,
or
you
know,
lawyers
to
the
mix,
but
to
really
support
these
particular
zip
codes.
Where
we're
seeing
an
inordinately
high
amount
of
evictions-
and
I
don't
think
that
the
responsibility
has
to
fall
on
the
tenant,
it
really
does
have
to
fall
on
landlords
and
people
who
are
renting
out.
D
D
I
know
your
name
is
listed
under
over
over
at
ms
gallant
and
all
of
our
testifiers
today,
because
I
think
you're
gonna
be
guiding
us
about
what
what
exactly
it
is
that
we
need
to
focus
on
and
who
we
need
to
be
directing
our
attention
to.
Thank
you
thank.
B
B
You
know,
I
appreciate
you
bringing
up
the
need
or
bringing
light
to
the
need
for
medical,
vulnerable,
seniors,
living
in
shelters,
and
it
doesn't
seem
like
you're
acting
too
much
to
have
access
to
medical
services
every
day,
and
I
thank
you
for
sharing
your
story
and
your
recommendation,
but
one
thing
I
just
needed
to
hear
again
just
for
clarity,
clarification
did
you
say
that
since
there
was
no
nursing
care
available
at
the
shelter
you
had
to
go
into,
you
call
it
the
rehab
con
facility
or
slash
nursing
home
in
order
for
you
to
get
your
medical
needs
back
on
track
before
you
can
be
admitted
back
into
what
you
where
you
were
living.
C
The
question
yes.
G
They
didn't
have,
they
didn't,
have
the
proper.
They
didn't
have
a
nurse
here
to
show
me
or
to
or
to
advise
me
how
to
clean
my
wound
all
right,
so
I
had
to
go
into
a
nursing
facility
where
they
taught
me
how
to
pack
the
room
and
keep
it
cleansed
and
by
being
in
saint
columbus,
any
shelter.
It's
not
the
cleanest.
G
We
all
knew
that
soon
and.
G
G
G
If
I'm
gonna
wander
back
on
the
street
with
the
this
major
room,
you
know
it's
just
like
it's
just
to
say
like
saint
number:
they
have,
they
have
wheelchair
accessible
ranks,
I've
seen
people
come
and
it
makes
it
a
lot
easier
for
a
person
in
a
wheelchair
if
their
wheelchair
accessibility
to
to.
As
far
as
there's
somebody
happy
to
help
lift
from
out
in
that
chair,
you
know
you
know
st
camber
will
make
make
way
to
help
you
in
some
in
some
form
or
fashion.
H
B
To
be
clear
that,
because
there
was
lack
of
medical
support
available
to
mr
walter,
mr
waters
and
other
folks
that
are
leaving
hospital
situation,
it
forces
them
to
go
into
a
nursing
home
facility
temporarily
and
it
questions
the
availability
of
their
bed
being
available
when
they
come
out.
Is
that
what
I
heard.
G
My
bed,
my
bed,
was
still
available,
but
I'm
saying
I
didn't
know
which
way
to
go.
I
I
didn't
know
what
was
going
on,
because
I
was
worried
more
worried
about
the
surgery
than
trying
to
worry
about
where
I'm
going
to
go
from
here.
Where
I'm
going
to
lay
my
head
at.
I
thought
I
couldn't
worry
about
the
buffalo
thing,
because
I
was
very
stressed
out.
B
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
that.
My
next
question
is
for
miss
howe.
Can
you
speak
a
little
bit
more
about
what
you
view
on
the
hurdles
that
seniors
with
disabilities
face
when
it
comes
to
assessing
shelters
and
why
might
seniors
with
health
conditions,
be
weary
about
living
in
city
shelters?
K
I
echo
mr
waters,
you
know
when
we
get
calls
at
liberty,
mostly
information
and
referrals,
and
they
are
seniors
who
are
either
facing
homelessness
or
are
homeless.
The
first
thing
that
they
normally
talk
about
is
their
health
and
their
their
conditions,
especially
respiratory
condition,
and
how
they
utilize
oxygen
tanks
and
you
know,
need
access
to
medicine
and
need
access
to
being
able
to
go
in
and
out
of
the
shelter
to
to
do
doctor's
appointments
and
therapy
and
all
kinds
of
other
things.
K
And
so
what
I
know
from
my
experience
is
that
medicine
is
locked
up
and
it's
not
always
readily
available
in
the
shelter
you
have
to
wait
until
someone
is
able
to
do
it,
and
also,
if
we're
talking
about
respiratory
issues
and
you
need
a
oxygen
intake
or
a
nebulizer,
some
shelters
don't
have
the
adequate
space
to
provide
that,
and
so
a
lot
of
seniors
and
homeless.
People
in
general
are
scared
to
go
in
if
they
have
autoimmune
diseases,
because
that
environment
will
exacerbate
whatever
health.
You
know
condition
they
have
going
on.
K
Okay-
and
I
think
that
you
know
if,
if
we
can
find
more
adequate
space
for
those
particular
because
seniors,
so
they
don't
have
to
be
like
mr
waters
and
go
into
a
nursing
home,
which
you
know
we
promote
independent
living
and
inclusivity
and
diversity
and
equity.
If
we
can
find
adequate
space
to
provide
that
particular
things
as
far
as
health
care
is
concerned,
because,
like
you
said
earlier,
health
care
is
a
human
right,
and
so
he
shouldn't
mr
waters
and
all
the
rest
of
our
consumers.
K
They
call
shouldn't
have
to
worry
about,
oh
my
health
or
my
housing.
At
the
same
time
that
that
alone
came
from
you
know.
What
am
I
trying
to
say:
can
a
disaster
bring
mental
health
issues
and
then
we
have
a
whole
nother
can
of
worms
to
open
up
so
to
speak,
and
so
that's
the
issues
just
pile
on
following.
So
I
think
if
we
find
ways
to
put
the
two
together
and
really
combat
the
issue
of
health
and
housing,
you
know
the
shelter
system
would
be
a
lot
better.
B
Thank
you,
and
you
mentioned
point
in
time,
count
as
a
way
to
determine
the
number
of
people
currently
without
home.
What
are
the
dangers
of
under
counting
this
vulnerable
population.
K
So
the
dangers
of
specifically
primarily
is
the
lack
of
funding.
If
you
can't
count
everybody,
you
won't
get
enough
funding
for
what
you
need
as
far
as
housing
is
concerned,
as
far
as
you
know
sheltering
to
make
the
shelters
better,
and
so
we
need
to
make
sure
that
the
pit
count
specifically
focuses
on
people
who
are
you
know
in
abandoned
buildings
in
their
cars.
You
know,
couchsurfing.
We
need
to
focus.
K
As
far
as
the
pay
count
is
concerned,
you
know
unfortunately,
the
pandemic
for
last
year
got
in
the
way
of
you
know,
really
getting
it
out
there.
I
think
if
the
city
built
a
better
relationship
with
more
people
on
the
ground
prior
to
the
actual
day
of
pit
count
or
days
and
and
talk
to
more
because
more,
I
always
say
consumers
more
seniors
or
more
people
on
the
street.
They
would
have
a
better
relationship
and
when
time
for
pit
count
came
around,
you
know,
more
seniors
would
be
like.
K
B
B
L
From
my
perspective
and
my
experience
when
someone
comes
in
with
a
voucher
and
they
go
it's
it's
mainly,
they
get
the
voucher
and
they're
sent
off
on
their
own
to
find
housing
which
a
lot
of
times
there
is
techn.
There
can
be
technology
issues,
mobility
issues,
things
like
that,
so
they
have
to
find
it
themselves,
but
how
are
they
going
to
get
there
or,
if
they're,
coming
directly
from
a
shelter
or
the
street?
L
L
C
L
For
to
find
housing,
I've
called
landlords
and
I've
been
told
that
I
need
to
send
money.
This
is
via
text
message.
There's
it's!
It
just
feels
uncomfortable.
I
don't
know
a
better
way
to
describe
it.
It
just
feels
uncomfortable.
It's
like.
Is
this
really
your
property?
I
don't
know
sometimes
the
con.
The
information
that's
provided
on
the
website
isn't
accurate.
L
They
don't
have
the
proper
phone
numbers.
So
then,
now
the
person
in
the
office
they're
upset
because
they
don't
you
know
those
vouchers
are
time
sensitive.
You
know.
Luckily,
you
know
during
the
pandemic
they've
been
able
to
extend
the
time
and
time
frame
that
one
has
before
finding
a
place,
but
that's
unhelpful.
If
I
can't
even
access
main
systems,
I'm
talk,
I'm
not
just
talking
about
pha,
I'm
talking
about
just
like
affordable
housing.
So
what
do
I
do
for
this
person?
L
L
But
the
information
that
I
have
at
my
disposal
is
unreliable
and
is
unhelpful
to
them.
So
it's
a
it's
a
cycle
and
it
gets
old
after
a
while,
because
I
don't
I
know
in
in
social
work,
they
tell
you
they
tell
you,
don't
make
it
personal.
How
can
you
not
I
look
at
if
this
man
was
68
years
old
with
the
voucher?
How
do
I
look
at
this
man
like
it's?
Not
my
dad
or
or
somebody,
and
then
know
that
he's
going
outside
to
sleep
on
the
ground?
B
Yeah,
I
I
get
it,
I
mean
we
get
phone
calls
in
our
office
every
day
with
folks
and
we're
trying
to
figure
out
who's
the
best
person
to
connect
them
with.
But
to
add
to
that,
can
you
elaborate
further
on
some
of
the
obstacles
seniors
face
when
they
are
provided
with
supplies,
subsidized
housing
options,
but
they're
outside
of
the
city.
L
How
would
how
did
they
get
there?
Okay,
so
the
people
like,
I
know
my
my
director
she's,
probably
watching
this
cringing,
but
because
I'm
passionate
and
it
can
go
off
the
rails
really
quickly.
But
how
can
we
expect
a
person
to
look
outside
of
the
city
and
there's
no
means
of
access
of
getting
in
there?
How?
How
do
we
move
who's,
paying
for
moving
trucks,
who's,
paying
who's?
Who
who,
because
a
lot
of
if
you're,
on
a
fixed
income,
do
you
have
money
to
get
somebody
to
help
you
move?
L
B
L
L
There
is
no
we're
not
going
to
beat
around
the
bush
about
it.
There
is
no
reason
for
anyone
to
be
housing
insecure,
but
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
people
are,
and
it's
devastating
there
is,
is
so
much
that
needs
to
be
done.
But
how
do
we
go
about
doing
it
because
there's
always
that
how
we
know
what
needs
to
be
done,
but
how
do
we
go
about
doing
it
and
our
seniors
and
other
housing,
insecure
individuals
that
we
see
to
every
day
are
asking
us
these
questions?
L
B
Thank
you
so
much
ms
fleming
for
your
testimony,
and
I
want
to
note
that
liz
hirsch
has
said
she
will
connect
with
dominique
later
in
reference
to
the
pit
program,
and
I
think
she'll
probably
bring
it
up
during
her
testimony
as
well.
If
there
are
any
that
includes
my
questions
and
I
want
to
thank
all
of
the
panelists
for
this.
Are
there
any
questions
or
comments
from
members
of
the
committee
council,
member
gautier.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
wanted
to
ask
miss
howe
if
she
would
be
able
to
estimate
the
percentage
of
her
clients
that
are
unable
to
use
section.
8
housing
vouchers
successfully.
K
Ready
if
you're
ready,
unfortunately,
that
most
of
them
can
cannot,
we
had
the
same
problem
as
this
plumbing
because
most
of
our
consumers,
unless
they
are
ambulatory
and
don't
utilize,
any
more
mobility
aids
like
wheelchairs
or
walkers,
that
we
cannot
find
accessible
housing
for
them.
And
so
I
had
a
consumer
who
was
homeless
during
the
pandemic,
who
had
to
who
had
an
autoimmune
disease
again
and
he
could
not
access
the
shelter.
K
K
Over
the
last
year,
we've
helped
so
many
people
try
to
find
accessible
housing
and,
unfortunately,
for
me,
specifically,
I've
only
been
able
to
find
two
and
most
of
most
of
my
consumers.
That
call
are
looking
for
accessible
housing
or
have
access
to
vouchers.
But
unfortunately,
just
like
miss
fleming,
when
you
go
on
the
pa
housing
search
website,
you
either
are
met
with.
We
don't
accept
vouchers,
we
don't
have
any
availability.
K
We
we
can't
make
our
place
accessible.
We
don't
have
the
resources,
we
don't
have
the
money
or
there's
this.
You
know
the
ami
issue
that
comes
into
play,
so
there's
a
a
bunch
of
difficult
avenues
that
we
we
take
as
independent
living
specialists
on
the
daily,
and
it's
it's
to
the
point
where
we
we,
we
have
to
say
to
people,
we
are
a
resource
center
and,
unfortunately,
right
now
there
isn't
anything
that
we
can
give
you
that
will
give
you
the
access
to
the
health.
K
You
know
to
the
housing
that
you
need
right
now.
Presently
we
will
try
our
best,
but
it's
no
guarantee
and
so
across.
The
city
agencies
are
dealing
with
this
and
this
is
a
another
huge
issue
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
But
that's
a
you
know,
a
pha
issue
and
a
hud
issue,
and
so,
but
that
has
a
lot
to
do
with
why
seniors
are
homeless
as
well,
because
they
they
get
the
access
to
the
voucher.
But
what
is
the
point
of
the
voucher
if
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
house
the
folks.
I
K
So
if
you
go
on
the
pa
housing
search
website,
there
is
now
some
properties
that
are
updated
where
they
only
take
50,
and
then
there
are
consumers
who
only
are
in
the
20
range
or
there
are
consumers
that
are
in
the
50
range,
but
then
they
only
take
the
20
range.
So
this
is
a.
This
is
an
issue
that
you
know
it's
an
ongoing
issue
and
it's
just
it's
so
heartbreaking.
K
That's
the
issue
that
I
had
when
I
was
you
know
when
I
was
homeless.
I
had
this
the
same
exact
issue
and
thankful
to
kendra
and
all
her
connections.
You
know
we
were
able
to
make
one,
but
that
was
the
issue.
The
issue
was,
I
had
this,
but
I
could
not
access
it,
and
so
it's
been
what
four
years
for
me
and
it's
still
the
same
issue
as
a
matter
of
fact,
it's
probably
worse,
because
we
have
more
resources.
K
We
have
more
people
on
the
ground
doing
this
work,
and
you
know
this
is
in
our
first
housing
hearing.
So
it's
more.
The
light
is
shed
more,
but
the
issue
is
still
the
same
and
the
issue
remains,
and
so
you
know
we
have.
We
have
to
figure
this
out,
because
the
health
of
our
seniors
is
what
matters
most
and,
and
those
are
the
people
you
know
the
young
people
and
the
the
children
and
the
elders.
Those
are
the
people
we
have
to
protect.
K
I
Oh,
I
wanted
to
ask
ms
fleming
the
same
question.
What
would
you
estimate
is
the
percentage
of
your
clients
that
are
unable
to
successfully
use
housing
vouchers.
L
Where
I
work
we,
I
don't
get
a
lot
of
individuals
needing
housing.
I
usually
will
send
them
to
I've,
been
trying
to
utilize,
like
targeted
case
management,
in
order
to
do
so,
but
of
the
I
say,
maybe
10,
to
20
in
a
since
what
last
year
when
they
started
the
new
vouchers,
I
say
about
80
percent
of
them,
the
other
ones
they
like
went
outside.
L
I
guess
to
the
northeast.
There
was
some
properties
available
out
that
way,
another
girl
she
moved
and
then
one
of
my
seniors
ended
up.
I
connected
them
with
their
family
and
their
family
ended
up
taking
them
to
another
state.
So
it's
thank
god
for
that,
but
it
the
number
is
pretty
high.
Thank.
B
Thank
you
so
much
councilmember
gautier.
Are
there
any
other
committee
members
that
have
questions
for
these
panelists.
B
A
Good
morning,
everyone,
my
name-
is
dan
hyman,
I'm
a
staff
attorney
at
senior
law
center.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
before
the
committee
this
morning
at
senior
law
center.
We
seek
justice
for
older
adults
through
direct
representation,
education
and
advocacy
we're
the
only
non-profit
organization
in
pennsylvania
whose
mission
is
dedicated
solely
to
providing
legal
services
to
older
persons.
One
and
one
of
only
a
few
in
the
nation.
A
A
A
In
some
cases,
a
current
landlord
does
wait
until
at
least
terminates
until
it
ends
and
files
an
eviction
case
based
on
termination
of
term.
In
other
instances,
landlords
simply
refuse
to
make
necessary
repairs
to
force
a
tenant
out.
We
had
one
recent
case
where
a
senior
couple
had
been
living
in
their
home.
For
several
decades,
the
home
had
switched
ownerships
a
number
of
times.
The
most
recent
owners
refused
to
fix
a
plunge
problem
that
it
slowly
escalated
to
the
point
where
raw
sewage
was
backing
up
into
the
basement.
A
The
new
owner
simply
refused
to
fix
it.
Saying
they
just
wanted
the
tenants
to
move
we've,
also
seen
landlords
cutting
off
heat
and
other
utility
utilities
to
force
seniors
out,
especially
when
the
seniors
attempt
to
stand
up
for
their
rights.
We
had
a
case
recently
where
senior
had
been
living
for
in
her
home
for
around
seven
years
and
had
never
been
weighed
on
her
rent.
She
learned
the
landlord
did
not
have
a
rental
license
and
told
the
landlord
she
wouldn't
pay
any
more
rent
until
the
landlord
got
a
license.
A
A
The
tenant
asked
repeatedly
for
the
landlord
to
make
the
repairs
over
several
months
and
then,
finally,
at
the
end
of
his
rope,
called
licensing
inspections
as
soon
as
the
inspector
showed
up
and
noted
the
violation,
the
landlord
cut
off
the
heat
to
that
unit
again
attempting
to
retaliate
on
the
against
the
tenant
and
force
them
out.
A
It's
grown
more
difficult
for
seniors
to
find
alternative
housing
before
the
pandemic.
My
clients
could
usually
find
a
place,
a
new
place
that
was
safety,
send
affordable
within
a
month
or
two.
Now
I
often
have
clients
who
cannot
find
any
alternative
housing
after
months
of
searching
while
the
recent
attendance
access
act
was
positive,
positive
step,
there's
simply
a
lack
of
accessible,
affordable
housing
for
seniors
in
philadelphia.
A
A
Unfortunately,
the
landlord
was
looking
to
increase
their
rent
by
nearly
20
percent
and
on
a
fixed
income.
They
simply
could
not
afford
that.
We
had
another
family
where
senior
mother
was
caring
for
her
her
disabled,
adult
son.
She
had
social
security
income,
he
had
a
disability,
he
had
disability
income,
their
landlord
is
looking
to
raise
the
rent
on
their
modest
two
bedroom
apartment
from
fifteen
hundred
dollars
a
month
to
to
nearly
nineteen
hundred
again,
a
yearly
increase
on
that
scale
was
not
affordable.
A
I
briefly
do
want
to
address
the
issue
of
police
response
to
legal
evictions,
which
was
mentioned
earlier.
I
want
to
make
clear
that
the
that,
since
april
of
2013,
the
philadelphia
police
department
does
have
an
internal
directive.
A
It's
direct
if
anyone's
interested
in
its
directive,
3.17
that
that
lays
out
that
they
should
be
responding
to
illegal
evictions
in
a
way
that
supports
tenants.
There
have
been
trainings
for
the
police
department
on
these
issues
and
we
we
also
have
noticed.
We've
noticed
that
that
the
police
response
varies
greatly
depending
on
the
officer
who
responds
so
we
would
be
in
support
of
additional
training
for
the
officers.
A
B
Thank
you.
So
much.
Can
you
after
this
panel,
are
you
available
for
questions?
Yes,
I'm
happy
to
stay
on
the
line.
Thank
you.
So
much
can
we
have
dennis
culhane.
N
Yes,
good
morning,
councilman
brooks
thank
you
for
the
invitation
and
to
the
other
council
members,
I'm
a
professor
at
the
university
of
pennsylvania
in
the
school
of
social
policy
and
practice.
N
N
N
It's
the
second
half
of
the
baby
boom,
even
as
early
as
1990,
they
were
the
largest
population
of
people
in
the
adult
shelter
system,
with
an
average
age
at
that
time
of
30..
N
We
did
a
study
with
boston,
new
york
and
los
angeles,
and
we
published
in
2019
that
we
project
that
the
number
of
elderly
homeless
will
triple
from
2017
levels
by
2030,
so
we're
not
quite
even
halfway
there
yet.
So
the
problem
that
we're
experiencing
of
elderly
homeless
is
going
to
only
get
significantly
worse
over
the
next
five
years.
N
Now
these
are
folks,
we
can
say
they're
elderly
at
65
plus,
but
people
who
are
homeless
tend
to
have
premature
aging,
related
health
conditions,
so
in
some
places
folks
consider
homeless,
people
50
and
over
to
be
potentially
aged.
Certainly,
people,
55
and
over
should
be
considered
potentially
aged
the
problem
with
that,
of
course,
is
that
that
they
are
not
eligible
for
ssi
by
reason
of
age
until
they're
65..
N
So
I
want
to
just
suggest
a
few
things
that
I'm
working
with
the
la
county
right
now
on
a
proposal
to
try
to
address
the
vulnerability
of
both
the
elderly,
who
are
65
plus,
but
also
people
who
are
probably
effectively
disabled
with
chronic
health
conditions
who
are
50
or
55
and
over
and
essentially
the
the
idea,
is
to
repair
and
build
on
the
safety
net,
especially
federal
entitlements
that
these
are
not
effectively
working
to
serve
this
population.
N
So
here's
the
components
of
the
proposal-
one
is
to
have
much
more
aggressive,
ssi
outreach
to
people
who
are
older
adults
who
are
likely
potentially
eligible,
and
indeed
we're,
proposing
that
there
be
a
screening
tool
that
would
identify
people
we
think
are
likely
to
be
ssi
eligible
and
you
can
immediately.
The
county
can
immediately
start
paying
them.
N
The
ssi
payment
amount
from
the
date
of
application
until
they
get
approved,
which
sometimes
can
take
12
to
18
months,
and
if
the
city
was
to
advance
that
payment
to
people
on
a
monthly
basis,
they
could
recover
100
of
that
from
the
federal
government,
because
it
it's
retroactive
to
the
date
of
application.
So
in
other
words,
we
can
take
people
who
are
destitute
and
have
basically
no
income
and
who
are
in
these
circumstances
and
get
them
cash
immediately
and
it
can
be
repaid
to
the
city
once
folks
are
found
eligible.
N
But
we
need
caseworkers
who
are
helping
people
with
this
application
process
who
are
following
it
closely
and
helping
people
to
get
to
the
finish
line
on
that,
because
it
is
a
complex
process.
N
A
second
thing
is
that
the
ssi
amount
is
not
sufficient
to
afford
market
rents.
I've
heard
discussion
here
today
about
the
problems
with
vouchers.
Another
problem
with
vouchers
is
there's
too
few
of
them
and
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
address
this
problem
at
scale
by
waiting
for
federal
vouchers.
So
one
of
the
other
things
we're
proposing
is
that,
along
with
this
ssi
presumptive
eligibility
and
outreach
that
there
would
be
a
supplement
to
the
ssi
which
we're
calling
a
housing
allowance
guarantee,
it
would
be,
I
would
say,
for
a
place
like
philadelphia.
N
It
could
be
about
500
a
month
that
the
client
would
know
that
they
have
the
potential
for
this
contribution
toward
rent
plus
they
could
contribute
some
of
their
ssi,
but
it
is
intended
for
a
shared
living
situations.
Much
more
flexible.
Another
problem
with
the
voucher
is
that
you
know
you
have
to
live
alone
and
you
have
to
find
a
one
bedroom
or
an
efficiency,
etc.
So
another
alternative
is
to
help
people.
N
You
know
to
move
into
a
shared
living
arrangement
with
family,
with
friends,
with
a
roommate
or
even
in
a
boarding
situation
and
giving
people
essentially
a
letter
telling
them
that
their
rent
would
be
guaranteed
or
this
red
supplement
would
be
guaranteed.
They
can
go
and
try
to
find
a
willing
friend,
family
member
or
someone
who's
renting
out
a
room
so
that
they
could
move
in.
So
that's
a
second
part
of
the
proposal.
N
N
Part
of
the
recovery
act,
funds
included
a
increase
in
money
for
home
and
community
based
services
in
medicaid,
specifically,
there's
a
homelessness
incentive
fund
in
there
and
communities
are
directed
to
use
this
money
to
help
people
find
housing,
housing,
navigation
case
management,
move-in
expenses,
including
first
and
last
month's
rent
and
security
deposit
and
then
tenancy
supports
to
get
settled
into
the
unit,
including
buying
necessary
furniture
and
utensils
and
such
so.
There
is
money
available
through
the
medicaid
program.
N
N
You
know
to
use
the
influence
of
the
state,
use
the
influence
of
the
city
with
regard
to
community
behavioral,
health
or
cbh
to
to
leverage
the
federal
entitlement
resources
on
behalf
of
this
population,
because
basically,
the
people
who
are
elderly
and
disabled
and
homeless
are
underserved
by
our
healthcare
delivery
system.
Our
behavioral
health
system,
as
I
think,
is
all
quite
evident
to
all
of
us.
So
again,
the
proposal
is
basically
fix.
N
The
safety
net
that's
broken
that
people
are
entitled
to
it's
mostly
federally
funded,
it's
not
going
to
cost
the
city,
but
of
course
the
the
housing
allowance
would
have
to
identify
a
funding
source
which
could
come
from
the
state
or
the
city
could
use
some
of
its
own
funds.
You
know
because
it
is
cheaper
than
shelter.
Providing
people
with
the
rental
homes
would
be
cheaper
than
shelter
which
the
city
is
paying
for
with
general
funds.
N
Lastly,
I
would
just
say
that
you
know
there
has
been
a
number
of
efforts
around
the
country
to
purchase
hotels
and
motels
and
convert
them
to
housing
and
also,
in
some
cases,
convert
some
to
safe
havens,
and
I
would
just
encourage
you
all
to
be
thinking
about
this
problem.
The
problem
of
aging
and
elderly
and
disabled
homeless.
N
Also,
in
the
light
of
what
resource
might
be
available
to
purchase
some
of
these
hotels,
there
are
a
lot
of
private
non-profit
organizations
willing
to
put
up
money
for
the
purchase
and
acquisition
and
rehab
of
some
of
these
hotels
but
they're
going
to
want
to
want
they're
going
to
want
some
operating
subsidies
to
go
with
that.
N
So
obviously
having
people
be
ssi
recipients
and
a
supplement
to
that
could
make
that
kind
of
option
more
feasible
and
again
trying
to
reduce
as
much
as
possible
the
cost
it
would
be
to
the
city
of
philadelphia.
But
so
those
are
my
remarks
and
I'm
glad
to
stick
around
and
take
any
questions.
Thank.
B
You
so
much
okay.
I
have
a
few
questions
for
the
panelists
before
I
open
up
to
my
fellow
committee
members.
My
first
question
is
for
mr
hyman:
what
reason
seniors,
who
are
being
constructively
evicted
from
their
homes
had
and
what
should
that
situation
do?
What
should
they
do
and
what
they
currently
have.
A
So,
ideally,
what
they
should
do
is
they
should
be
calling
the
police
and
getting
an
appropriate
police
response.
But,
as
we've
seen,
that's
not
what's
happening,
so
I
would.
I
would
certainly
urge
the
council
to
consider
more
education
for
frontline
police
officers
on
the
issue.
That
being
said,
they
should
call
the
philadelphia
tenant
tenant
hotline.
We
can
provide
our
senior
law
center
and
our
partners,
including
community
legal
services
and
legal
clinic
for
the
disabled
staff,
that
hotline
and
provide
advice
and
representation.
A
We
connect.
We
heard
people
to
file
cases
in
commission.
We've
recently
actually
filed
a
couple
of
cases
in
the
court
of
common
pleas
and
got
in
injunctions
against
landlords.
We
recently
got
an
injunction
forcing
a
landlord
to
turn
someone's
electricity
back
on,
but
that's
hard
for
someone
to
do
without
the
assistance
of
an
attorney.
It's
a
complicated
process,
especially
you
know,
especially
not
just
buying
the
case,
but
asking
for
an
injunction
in
the
right
way,
is
very
complicated.
A
So
I
would
say
people
should
look
for
legal
assistance,
call
turn
and
try
and
get
help.
If
it's
a
utility
shut
off.
I
we
recommend
calling
on
the
calling
the
utility
companies
calling
l,
and
I
we've
also
had
success.
A
The
state
attorney
general's
office
in
philadelphia,
we'll
take
referrals
on
illegal
evictions
and
they
won't.
They
will
call
landlords
and
put
pressure
on
them
to
do
the
right
thing,
although
they
won't
do
much
beyond
you
know,
beyond
phone
calls
right
now
because
of
their
own
capacity
issues,
but
we've
had
success
where
you
know
a
landlord
gets
a
call
from
from
someone
at
the
district
attorney's
office,
explaining
that
what
they're
doing
is
illegal
and
that
that
sometimes
convincingly
convinces
the
landlord
to
do
the
right
thing.
I
hope
that
answers
the
question.
B
Yes,
thank
you
so
much.
My
next
question
is
for
mr
culhane.
How
would
you
compare
what's
happening
in
philadelphia
to
what's
happening
nationwide
when
it
comes
to
senior
housing.
N
People
with
all
these,
you
know
needs
for
assisted
devices
and
oxygen
at
wheelchairs,
and
you
know
just
the
shelter
system
was
not
designed
for
people
who
are
older
and
in
fact
I
mean
elderly
homelessness
was
quite
rare
until
only
a
decade
ago.
N
It
was
very
uncommon,
so
I
don't
know
everything
that
philadelphia
is
doing
to
be
honest,
but
I
certainly
hope
that
we're
thinking
about
alternatives
to
congregate,
shelter
and
spending
days
on
the
street
that
these
are
people
who
need
access
to
places
to
be
24
hours
a
day
with
privacy
with
dignity.
With
you
know,
private
bathrooms,
and-
and
you
know
we
have
to
be
working
on
that
steadfastly.
N
B
You
can
you
please
the
subscribe
steps
that
can
be
taken
here
in
philadelphia
to
help
limit
the
number
of
seniors
falling
into
homelessness,
because
I
was
really
interested
in
the
housing
allowance
guarantee
that
you
mentioned
and
converting
the
many
abandoned
properties
in
the
city
into
housing.
N
So
that
you
know
the
main
thing
is
to
get
people
the
income
they're
entitled
to,
which
is
why
I'm
suggesting
we
have
a
real
campaign
to
get
folks
their
federal
benefits,
especially
ssi,
which
is
not
a
simple
thing
to
do,
and
you
know
by
the
way
medicaid
does
pay
for
benefits,
outreach
and
counseling.
N
It
doesn't
mean
that
medicaid
managed
care
companies
are
doing
it,
but
that
it
is
an
allowable
activity
and
billable
activity
under
medicaid
to
help
people
get
their
benefits.
So
I
think
that,
when
health
care
providers,
one
thing
they
could
be
doing
is
actually
asking
people
about
their
housing
stability.
One
of
the
successful
programs
that
we've
seen
that
the
va
is
doing
is
they
have
a
two
question
screener
that
every
patient
is
asked
when
they
meet
with
their
physician
and
it's
about
their
housing
situation,
whether
they're
cons.
N
You
know
whether
they've
had
unstable
housing
in
the
last
few
months
or
whether
they
expect
to
have
unstable
housing
in
the
next
few
months
and
if
they
are
they're
referred
to
social
work.
Who
then
tries
to
talk
to
them
about
what
the
situation
is
and
if
they
can
fix
it.
So,
from
a
prevention
perspective,
having
physicians
ask
people
about
their
or
emergency
rooms,
asking
people
about
their
housing
situation
is
a
way
to
connect
people
to
services
that
could
be
preventive
and
that
would
include
you
know
getting
them
the
benefits
that
they
deserve.
B
B
I
thought
that's
what
he
enraged.
Okay,
there
being
none
miss
khalil.
Will
you
please
call
the
next
panel
to
testify
on
his
bill.
E
Good
afternoon
and
thank
you
for
having
me
here,
I'm
going
to
touch
on
a
few
subjects
entertaining
the
shelter
system
when
I
first
became
homeless
smith.
E
E
My
name
is
stacy
miller
and
I
will
go
ahead
and
touch
on
a
few
of
the
things
in
the
shelter
system
and
then
tell
you
what
had
happened
to
me
as
well.
E
In
the
first
shelter
that
I
was
placed
into
when
I
first
became
homeless,
it
was
one
of
the
overnight
ones
and
there
they
placed
me
on
a
bunk
bed.
That
was
with
no
ladder
and
with
my
many
illnesses
that
I
do
have
made
it
very
difficult
for
me
to
get
up
for
one.
But
then,
when
they
set
the
fire
alarm
off
the
middle
of
the
night,
I
did
fall
and
injured.
My
from
my
shoulder
all
the
way
down
to
my
hip,
it
was
black
and
blue.
E
E
Also
too,
the
bathrooms
there
were
30
people
in
in
a
room,
and
there
were
two
rest,
two
stalls
for
the
bathroom
and
two
showers
to
accommodate
30
people
during
being
rushed
in
and
being
rushed
out,
because
you
are
asked
to
leave
in
the
morning.
This
is
pre-coded
after
after
that,
then
the
kova
did
hit
and
I
was
being
placed
into
temporary
shelters
that
allowed
me
to
stay
all
day.
E
I
didn't
need
the
rest,
because
I
again
am
unhealthy
and
I
have
many
problems
such
as
my
heart
and
my
lungs.
Both
my
lungs
have
collapsed
and
they
are
stapled
up.
E
I
had
no
ac
in
my
in
my
one
room
and
made
my
breathing
very,
very,
very
difficult
in
saying
this.
Also
too,
there
was
inadequate
food
at
the
first
shelter
such
as
a
small
box
of
cereal
handed
to
you
in
a
water
in
the
morning
and
then
at
night.
They
would
give
us
a
two
slices
of
thin
ham
on
bread
with
orange
and
water.
That
was
our
our
meals.
E
E
They
told
me
that
when
I
arrived
then
that
would
be
my
last
stop
that
I
won't
have
to
worry
that
I
will
be
permanently
out.
I
was
so
overjoyed
and
blessed
at
that
moment.
Well
then,
they
placed
me
with
a
case
manager
there.
That
was
not
knowledgeable
and
did
not
know
to
tell
me
to
change
my
social
security
card,
because
I
am
a
divorcee.
E
I
called
and
begged
and
pleaded
with
every
ounce
of
my
my
body
and
finally
had
the
problem
resolved
after
months
of
waiting
presented
the
card,
and
there
was
other
things
that
were
done
not
done
correctly
on
my
application,
I'm
not
knowledgeable
when
it
comes
to
filling
out
these
applications
myself
or
else
I
would
have
done
it
and
provided
the
information
that
I
need.
E
E
E
E
E
B
Thank
you.
Can
you
stick
around
for
a
minute
for
testimony
once
you
started
speaking,
I
remember
meeting
you
when
we
became
in
shelter,
so
I
have
some
questions
for
you.
If
you
can
stick
around
yes,
ma'am.
Thank
you.
Can
we
have
jonathan
jacket.
O
Of
course,
thank
you
jonathan
jacket
and
thank
you,
council
member,
brooks
for
hosting
this
hearing
today
to
shine
light
on
the
struggles
for
seniors
accessing
shelter
and
housing
during
the
coveted
pandemic
and
at
all
other
times
too.
My
name
is
jonathan
jacket.
I
am
the
senior
program
manager
for
the
outreach
coordination
center
at
project
home
project
home
is
a
philadelphia,
nonprofit
organization,
empowering
people
to
break
the
cycle
of
homelessness
and
poverty
through
affordable
housing,
employment,
health
care
and
education.
O
O
In
addition
to
providing
housing,
we
collaborate
with
street
outreach
providers
through
the
outreach
coordination
center
for
the
city
of
philadelphia,
operate
a
24,
7
homeless,
outreach
hotline
and
run
the
hub
of
hope,
drop-in
center
in
the
septic
concourse
at
suburban
station
serving
hundreds
of
guests
each
week.
Our
upcoming
projects
include
creating
units
for
people
who
are
aging
in
recovery,
executing
foster
care
and
or
identified
as
lgbtqia.
O
We
are
here
today
because
project
home
has
faced
persistent
challenges
during
covet
and
at
all
times
in
helping
seniors
access,
shelter
and
maintain
stability
and
affordable
housing.
Our
community
is
aging
with
more
than
50
of
project
home
residents
being
over
the
age
of
55
and
having
complex
physical
and
behavioral
health
challenges.
O
The
city's
own
web
focus
database
shows
that
one
in
three
outreach
contacts
are
with
individuals
who
are
the
age
50
or
older.
In
fiscal
year,
2021
the
city
of
philadelphia
reported
specifically
project
home
outreach
contacts,
3
167
people-
oh
so
3167
people
living
in
shelter
over
the
age
of
55.,
in
line
with
national
trends.
Philadelphia's
shifting
demographics
means
that
we
will
have
older
adults
and
people
with
severe
disabilities
needing
housing
and
services.
O
Older
and
disabled
people
are
now
are
often
unable
to
access,
shelter
or
permanent
housing.
Because
of
barriers.
I
will
outline
below.
Of
course,
these
challenges
were
compounded
for
seniors
and
other
vulnerable
people
diagnosed
with
covid.
Throughout
the
course
of
the
pandemic,
outreach
has
struggled
with
the
capacity
in
shelters
and
access
to
quarantine
and
isolation
units.
Even
during
the
coldest
weather
we
had
individuals
who
were
coveted
positive,
who
had
nowhere
to
go
so
they
stayed
on
the
streets
or
desperately
tried
to
access
emergency
rooms
that
get
worn.
O
Of
course,
congregate.
Shelters
are
not
designed
to
keep
people
safely
isolated
from
covet.
I
personally
answered
phone
calls
from
to
our
hotline
from
seniors
who
were
diagnosed
with
covet
and
discharged
to
the
streets
from
hospitals.
It
was
heartbreaking
to
have
nothing
to
offer
them
it's
one
of
the
hardest
parts
of
this
job.
Specifically,
when
you
have
nowhere
to
take
people
even
on
the
coldest
nights
homeless,
outreach
teams
work
to
help
seniors,
navigate
a
number
of
different
issues.
O
When
outreach
teams
work
to
help
seniors
access,
shelter,
many
have
been
turned
away
due
to
limited
mobility
and
the
need
for
extra
supports
outreach
and
shelter.
Workers
are
carrying
a
burden
for
work
that
they
aren't
equipped
to
do,
such
as
helping
people
manage
open
wounds,
oxygen
tanks,
ambulatory
issues,
catheters
and
incontinence.
O
In
just
the
last
two
weeks,
outreach
has
worked
with
the
17
year
old
woman
who
was
denied
shelter
due
to
her
visual
impairment.
We
were
unable
to
place
an
84
year
old
woman
who
could
not
bathe,
shower
or
transfer
herself
and
spent
several
days
to
place
a
61
year
old,
who
was
malnourished
and
had
no
limited
to
no
ability
to
ambulate
on
his
own,
couldn't
even
transfer
into
a
bed
from
his
wheelchair.
O
We
were
continuing
continue
to
work
with
homeless
individuals.
On
the
street,
who
have
oxygen,
tanks
and
incontinence
who
struggle
to
access
shelter
but
could
live
independently
with
the
right
supports
in
kensington,
our
teams
text
daily
on
a
woman
who's
in
recovery
from
an
opioid
use
dependence,
but
has
no
ability.
O
No
ability
to
ambulate
on
her
own
is
entirely
dependent
on
others
to
push
her
wheelchair
outreach
and
area
hospitals
frequently
face
heartbreaking
situations
in
which
homeless
individuals
no
longer
require
hospitalization,
but
they
are
not
appropriate
or
unable
to
access
shelter
due
to
their
medical
conditions,
and
the
only
immediately
available
alternative
is,
sadly
the
streets
as
baby
boomers
continue
to
age.
The
ongoing
public
health
crisis
of
aging
and
homelessness
must
be
addressed
in
addition
to
seniors
living
on
the
streets.
O
We
just
do
not
have
the
capacity
to
provide
there's
a
need
for
more
units
where
people
can
come
in
from
the
streets
as
well
as
appropriate
units
for
seniors
who
do
not
require
nursing
home
level
of
care,
but
also
do
not
belong
in
shelters,
shelters,
safe
havens
and
other
forms
of
housing
need
to
be
able
to
provide
supports
with
access
to
nursing
services
and
partnerships
with
health
care,
including
physical
and
behavioral
health,
for
ongoing
issues
related
to
seniors
who
are
experiencing
homelessness.
We're
recommending
the
following
solutions.
O
Most
fun.
Physical
improvements
to
all
shelter,
make
all
shelters,
wheelchair
accessible
and
create
modifications
for
people
with
varying
disabilities,
fun
physical
improvements,
the
shelters
and
pro
and
permanent
supportive
housing
programs
to
allow
people
to
age
in
place
need
a
higher
level
of
care.
O
Supporting
easy
access
to
home
and
community
based
services
can
help
seniors
remain
in
their
homes
and
community,
not
having
access
to
medicaid,
waivers
and
or
other
community
services
can
lead
many
seniors
to
becoming
unhoused
and
placed
in
nursing
homes
and
shelters.
The
process
for
finding
accessible
and
affordable
housing
then
starts
again
for
these
seniors.
O
The
philadelphia
department
of
public
health,
the
department
of
bay
and
rural
health
and
intellectual
disability
services,
shelter
providers
and
homeless
outreach
for
responding
to
future
variants.
Surges
and
outbreaks
create
a
high
level
position
focusing
on
emergency
preparation
for
people
who
are
homeless
to
ensure
that
planning
for
another
disaster
is
of
high
quality,
is
comprehensive
and
includes
private
sector
state
and
federal
stakeholders.
O
Increase
access
to
quarantine
and
isolation
supports
including
24
7
intake
and
transportation.
As
outlined
in
a
recent
letter
sent
to
me
kenny,
outlining
the
need
for
pandemic
specific
measures
pandemic.
Specific
measures
to
keep
people
housed
safe
and
address
specific,
acute
and
time
limited
needs
during
this
public
health
crisis.
O
The
cost
of
nothing
the
cost
of
doing
nothing
is
dire
and
real.
This
past
december,
we
commemorated
a
record
400
people
at
homeless
memorial
day.
We
are
ready
to
work
together
with
other
providers
in
the
city
to
ensure
that
everyone
has
a
place
to
call
home.
We
please
call
on
us
anytime.
We
can
be
of
assistance
in
crafty
and
complementary
strategies.
O
P
Good
morning,
councilmember
mim,
burks,
council,
member
dara,
green
and
members
of
the
committee
on
the
inter
generational
affairs
and
agent.
Thank
you
for
calling
this
important
hearing
today.
My
name
is
andrea
roberson.
I
am
a
mother,
a
wife
and
for
the
last
five
years
I
have
served
as
the
lead
case
manager
of
self
inc
station
house,
emergency
housing
program.
P
Self
inc
is
a
30
year
old,
philadelphia
based
human
service
provider
and
the
city's
largest
provider
of
emergency
housing
services
for
single
adult
men,
and
we
work
collaborative
with
the
city
office
of
homeless
services
and
the
department
of
behavioral
health
and
intellectual
disability
services
to
make
homelessness.
Rare
brief
and
non-reoccurring
station
house
is
an
emergency
housing
program
for
a
hundred
single
men.
The
location
also
serves
as
the
city's
after
hour
intake
site
for
90
night
by
night
placement
for
single
male
adult
adult
males
and
for
the
winter
initiative
program
intake
site
for
single
adult
men.
P
The
latitude
programs
provide
an
additional
90
night
by
night
to
single
adult
men
since
joining
self.
I
have
worked
with
some
amazing
and
resilient
participants
who
have
trusted
me
and
my
peers
and
assist
assisted
them
in
their
self-directed
transformation,
leading
to
jobs,
family
reunification
and
most
important
permanent
housing.
P
One
such
person
was
the
lester
ross.
A
senior
lester
was
a
person
who
was
beloved
in
our
community.
He
unfortunately
experienced
addiction
and
homelessness
most
of
his
life.
While
staying
at
station
house
leicester
brought
a
lot
of
joy
to
the
station
house
community
like
many
who
struggle
with
addiction
and
homelessness.
P
Lester
also
had
days
when
his
behavior
became
challenging.
We
were
able
to
work
through
the
bad
days
and,
ultimately,
together
with
lester,
we
were
able
to
secure
permanent
supportive
housing
for
him.
After
not
hearing
from
lester
for
a
couple
of
weeks,
we
checked
in
with
different
people
only
to
find
out
that
lester
transitioned
from
covet
and
his
body
was
left
unclaimed
in
the
cities
more,
I
was
devastated.
P
Our
team
and
our
community
was
devastated
among,
according
to
the
office
of
homeless
services
fiscal
year,
2021
data
snapshot,
13
of
those
55
through
61
years
of
age
and
9
of
those
age
62
and
over
were
served
by
the
city's
homeless
service
system
together,
seniors
account
for
roughly
22
percent
of
those
in
homeless
service
system,
while
sheltered
shelter
can
be
critical
resources
for
those
facing
an
immediate
housing
crisis.
It
is
simply
not
a
solution
for
the
seniors
who
also
live
with
desperate
and
chronic
health
issues,
including
mental
health
issues.
Substance
use
issues
to
be
clear.
P
Senior
homelessness
is
one
area
where
our
system,
where
our
systemic
response
has
been
a
failure.
This,
of
course,
is
not
to
say
any
specific,
individual
or
entity
is
responsible.
It
is
systemic
among
the
many
challenges
over
the
past
two
pandemic
years.
One
very
clear
consensus
has
emerged.
Black
and
brown
people
continue
to
be
harmed
by
the
pes
approaches
of
our
various
human
and
health
focused
service
system.
In
addition,
seniors
in
other
historically
disadvantaged
communities,
continue
to
follow
through
the
cracks
after
much
thought
leadership
by
me,
my
peers
and
those
of
the
homeless
service
system.
P
P
One
senior
who
unfortunately
fell
through
the
cracks
with
the
initials
wb
a
80
year
old
veteran
who
came
to
station
house
in
early
2022
wb,
contracted
covet
and
admitted
to
the
city's
quarantine
and
isolation
site
after
recovering
was
sent
back
to
station
house.
Although
we
were
able
to
secure
permanent
housing
for
him
by
the
end
of
january.
P
While
there
have
been
many
ebbs
and
flows
with
respect
to
the
covert
response,
as
it
impacts,
seniors
and
other
experiencing
homeless
insecurities
and
none
more.
Concerning
than
those
that
happened
during
the
recent
omicron
surge
in
december
2021,
our
city
saw
40
positively
rate
among
those
who
were
homeless
as
well
across
the
city
generally.
P
P
The
city's
core
team
and
isolation
sites
which
prepare
provides
temporary
housing
for
covet
positive
homeless
individuals,
was
only
available
for
intake
during
the
daytime
hours
for
some
homeless
people
and
homeless
service
providers
to
scramble
for
a
safe
place
for
them
to
recover
until
they
could
gain
access
the
next
day
or
a
following
monday.
If
they
tested
positive
on
a
friday
evening,
the
options
were
few.
P
P
This
was
a
very
dangerous
strategy
that
placed
participants
and
team
members
in
harm's
way.
Again.
These
are
mostly
black
participants
and
black
frontline
team
members
placed
at
risk
of
contracting
a
deadly
virus
with
no
background
in
infectious
disease
controls
or
primary
care
on
12
30
20
21,
I
myself
began
to
feel
ill.
P
I
had
been
working
with
several
station
house
participants
and
one
was
a
56
year
old
male
who
was
recently
diagnosed
with
covet,
but
avoided
disclosing
it
to
us
and
also
refused
to
go
to
quarantine,
an
isolation
sites
once
we
found
out
his
results
shortly
after
this
experience
at
station
house,
I
tested
positive
for
covet
and
I
became
ill
to
stay
home
for
seven
days.
It
was
one
of
the
worst
experiences
of
my
life
to
make
matters
worse.
P
My
husband
tested
positive
for
covet
and
experienced
mild
symptoms
and
did
my
teenage
son,
my
newborn
son,
antoine
jr,
also
tested
positive
but
remained
a
systematic
while
the
positive
rate
is
much
lower
today,
and
I
am
back
at
work
doing
what
I
love
to
do.
I
am
here
to
ask
you
to
ensure
that
seniors
and
others
living
and
are
providing
services
in
the
homeless
service
system
receive
the
health
and
safety
protections
they
need
to
stay
alive
and
stay
healthy.
P
Chief
among
these
immediate
needs
of
puerto
ri,
prioritizing
planning
for
future
surges
and
urgent
and
emerging
threats
impacting
an
already
stressed
homeless
service
system.
I
humbly
ask
that,
during
this
proactive
planning
stages,
that
you
ensure
the
inclusive
of
voices
of
people
with
lived
experiences
and
those
providing
direct
services
to
those
unhoused
and
planning
leadership
roles,
there
will
likely
be
another
variant
and
likely
another
surge
in
infections.
P
B
I
have
a
few
questions
for
the
panelists,
but
before
I
open
this
up
to
questions
to
my
fellow
committee
members,
my
first
question
is
for
stacy:
how
did
your
experience
in
the
isolation
and
quarantine
covet
hotel
and
luzerne
non-congregate
care
setting
compared
to
your
previous
experiences
with
shelter
care
system.
E
I
was
treated
with
dignity
and
bed.
Well,
I
was
able
to
concentrate
on
trying
to
get
housing
and
it
was.
It
was
much
better.
Then
I,
when
I
went
to
lazern
it
was
kind
of
like
a
knock
down
as
I
stepped
down.
E
B
Miller
are
you
in
permanent
housing?
Now,
yes,
ma'am!
Yes,
look
at
your
background.
It's
really
good
to
see
that,
and
I
also
want
to
thank
you
for
your
advocacy.
I
remember
and
meeting
you
and
you
shared
a
concern
that
you
had
for
another
person
that
was
also
there
and
I'm
not
going
to
state
her
name,
but
I
was
able
to
advocate
for
her
to
get
the
things
she
needs.
B
E
Yes,
I
know
you're
speaking
of
the
the
lady
that
was
elderly
and
did
not
have
the
supplies
that
she
needed
for
her
her
illness.
So
that
was
really
a
good
thing
and
I
thank
you
congress.
I
mean
councilwoman
that
I
thank
you
very
much
for
all
your
support
and
your
help.
B
O
Of
course,
I
I'm
happy
to
speak
to
my
perspective.
I
would
also
out
there
that,
if
folks
from
liberty,
resources
are
still
on
the
call,
such
as
dominique
they're,
definitely
the
best
to
speak
to
that
specific
issue
and
access
what
I
will
say,
I've
had
experience
operating
two
different
large
shelters,
ranging
from
100
people
to
40
people
and
even
in
shelter.
It
has
been
highly
problematic
to
actually
whether
through
pca
or
through
other
means,
get
services
for
people
living
in
shelter,
and
so
that
may
range
from
someone
who
cannot
ambulate.
O
For
example,
st
columba
really
serves
a
lot
of
very
medically
vulnerable
people
who
can't
get
around
on
their
own
really
need
extensive
services,
but
it's
still
a
dorm
style.
It's
still
essentially
a
shelter
and
with
dorm
style
living
home
health
aides
don't
always
want
to
work
out
of
those
environments
and
it
does
present
additional
challenges,
but
even
getting
through
the
assessment
process.
O
If
I
have
someone
who
needs
those
services
now
and
like
I,
the
I
took
someone
over
to
saint
columba
two
weeks
ago,
who,
like
it
took
hours
this
his
power
wheelchair
was
dead.
It
was
a
constant
struggle.
I
had
to
beg
the
program
to
take
him
because
he
couldn't
transfer
himself.
O
He
can't
do
a
lot
of
activities
of
daily
living,
but
he
had
nothing
else
available
to
him
in
that
time
and
even
now,
they're
trying
to
get
those
services,
especially
24-hour
home
health
aid
services,
but
that
takes
time
so
expediting
these
services
will
allow
more
people
to
get
in
the
shelter,
including
working
with
their
partners
at
office
of
homeless
services.
Had
multiple
conversations
regarding
this
person
could
come
in.
They
cannot
be
themselves,
they
can't
transfer.
O
O
If
they
have
open
wounds,
they
don't
know
how
to
help
someone
transfer
safely,
but
they're
doing
this
work
out
of
desperation
to
keep
that
person
off
the
street
and
inside
and
safe
too
often,
we
see
like
complications
as
a
result
of
this,
including
infections
that
shelter
and
and
where
a
lot
of
providers
are
doing
what
they
can
to
try
to
keep
people
housed
and
safe
without
the
real
resources
they
need
to
do
it.
O
But
as
far
as
access
and
liberty,
resources
has
really
been
help
and
are
definitely
the
experts
on
obtaining
those
services
and
also
are
more
aware
of
the
barriers.
I
can
definitely
speak
to
the
barriers
of
trying
to
get
it
for
people
on
the
streets.
We've
applied
and
obviously
there's
a
multitude
of
challenges.
O
In
that
case,
but
really
we've
we've
got
tried
to
beg,
peop
hospitals
to
admit
people
just
so
we
could
try
to
get
those
services
wrapped
around
as
well.
B
So,
mr
jacket,
just
for
clarity,
there
is
no
current
system
of
triage
or
a
way
to
provide
medical
assistance
for
folks
coming
into
shelter
at
the
majority
of
the
shelters
in
the
city
and
the
responsibility
for
medical
care
is
put
on
to
folks
that
aren't
trained
for
this
type
of
work
is
that.
O
All
too
frequently
and
we
do
have-
we
have
nervouses
that
go
through
many
of
the
shelters,
there's
also
the
peace
pilot,
which
I'm
sure
we
just
could
talk
more
about
as
well.
That
tries
to
kind
of
address
some
of
these
issues,
but
too
frequently
what
I've
seen
is.
Either
people
cannot
access
shelter
due
to
their
medical
conditions
or
like
or
shelter,
staff
are
really
trying
to
go
above
and
beyond,
to
accommodate
things
that
they
are
not
prepared
or
trained
to
deal
with.
B
So
then,
you
kind
of
answer
my
question,
my
question
like
as
part
of
the
intake
process.
If
someone
was
identified
on
the
street
and
they
require
additional
medical
support,
we
have
no
means
to
provide
them
with
immediate
shelter
care
if
they
have
any
level
of
medical
supports,
because
we
don't
have
medical
personnel
in
shelter
to
be
able
to
care
for
them.
O
These
are
issues
that
have
kept
people
on
the
streets
and
obviously
the
fact
that,
like
someone
is
on
the
streets
because
they
don't
have
access
to
medical
care
and
child
like
that's,
that's
not
appropriate,
but
shelters
are
not
necessarily
the
answer
either,
and
what
we
need
is
more
options
and
programs
specifically
designed
to
support
people
with
advanced
medical
issues,
but
also
those
with
severe
behavior
health
challenges.
B
Thank
you
so
much
mr
jacket.
My
next
question
is
for
miss
roberson.
B
I
was
horrified
to
hear
about
the
covet
pandemic,
passing
through
your
family
and
it
conditions
you
and
your
fellow
workers
have
endured
doing
a
pandemic,
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
your
service
and
thank
you
for
your
commitment
before
I
go
into
my
questions.
B
P
So
just
being
vigilant,
I
know
one
thing
that
we
did
here
was
we
continued
to
not
drill,
but
you
roll
our
participants
in
protecting
themselves
when
they
come
through
the
door.
If
they
went
ahead
any
symptoms,
we
made
sure
that
they
were
being
tested.
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
that.
That
concludes
my
questions.
This
assigned
to
work,
would
you
like
to
make
a
comment.
J
I'm
sorry
I
do
apologize
another
another
very
important
issue
regarding
homelessness
in
our
city
is
that
we
must
not
allow
airbnbs
to
expand
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
J
I
went
to
one
of
their
meetings
about
a
month
ago
and
I
heard
some
of
their
arguments,
but
I
also
know
one
and
maybe
possibly
two
people
who
were
at
risk
of
homeless
being
homeless
because
their
landlord
converted
part
of
their
property
into
an
airbnb
and
they
had
to
leave.
J
J
I
know
they
claim
to
be
concerned
about
pressure
from
the
big
hotels
in
terms
of
tourism
and
tourism
is
a
great
source
of
revenue
for
the
city
of
philadelphia,
et
cetera,
but
they
must
not
be
allowed
to
expand,
because
that
will
only
make
homelessness
and
housing
scarcity
scarcity
even
worse.
So
I
just
want
to
say
that.
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
comments.
Are
there
any
questions
or
comments
from
members
of
the
committee.
B
M
E
C
I
will
go
forward
council
support
if
I
could
be
granted
access
to
share
powerpoint.
M
Thank
you,
while
you're
doing
that
thanks
so
much,
I
wanted
to
acknowledge
that
a
number
of
staff
and
our
provider
partners
are
represented
today
here
on
this
hearing,
beth
gonzalez,
our
deputy
for
policy
planning
and
performance,
roberta
cancillier,
our
deputy
for
housing
services,
david
holloman,
chief
of
staff,
rob
harrison
who
runs
our
stenton
family,
shelter
and
also
one
of
our
sros
chrissy.
M
Judd
is
here
also
from
love,
pray,
peace,
one
of
our
sros
self-incorporated,
where
we
just
heard
from
andrea,
also
one
of
our
shelters,
jonathan
from
jacket
from
project
home.
Also,
one
of
our
programs,
daiquiri
robinson,
our
director
of
long-term
housing,
dominique
howell,
is
the
co-chair
of
our
lived
experience.
Commission
of
our
roadmap
to
homes,
board
allison
warfield
from
families
rise,
families,
rising
sro
and
I'm
sure
I've
missed
two
or
three
other
people.
M
So
when
you
hear
about
the
office
of
homeless
services,
it's
a
really
expansive
network
of
people
and
providers
throughout
our
community.
Can
we
move
to
the
next
slide?
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
you
this
morning,
since
we
have
already
talked
a
lot
about
homelessness
and
among
seniors
and
you've
heard
so
much
of
what
the
true
experience
is
like
I'm
gonna
move
relatively
quickly
through
some
of
the
facts
that
you've
already
heard.
M
We
heard
a
little
bit
about
the
point
in
time:
cart
count
from
dominique
and
its
limitations,
which
we
agree
with.
As
of
last
year.
There
were
about
4
300
people
in
the
city
who
we
counted
as
experiencing
homelessness,
so
noting
that
that
does
not
include
people
living
in
abandonmentiums
or
cars
which
we
do
not
enter
about.
700
of
those
were
unsheltered.
M
That
being
said,
nearly
15
000
people
touched
our
system
last
year.
So,
while
at
any
given
point
in
time,
there's
under
5
000
people,
many
people
experience
an
episode
of
homelessness
over
the
course
of
the
year.
Many
of
those
people
are
children
and,
as
you've
heard,
many
of
those
are
seniors,
and
I
loved
what
someone
said
about
where
we
came
from
and
where
we're
going.
M
When
people
get
affordable
housing
that
they
need,
it
is
in
a
way
making
things
making
things
right.
Not
only
is
it
good
for
them
and
good
for
our
society
and
our
community,
but
it
gives
them
a
platform
to
participate,
gives
a
platform,
recovery
and
health,
and
last
year,
in
spite
of
the
pandemic,
nearly
15
about
1500
households
entered
permanent
housing,
so
clearly
many
fewer
than
are
needed,
but
still
tremendous
momentum,
just
a
quick
reminder
about
what
the
homeless
service
system
is
it
and
I'll.
M
Let
you
just
read
this
slide
quickly,
but
it
is
outreach.
It
is
homelessness,
prevention
and
diversion.
We
really
would
like
for
people
not
to
experience
homelessness.
It's
very
traumatic
and
upsetting
you
heard
from
stacy.
You
know
just
how
hard
that
experience
is,
and
it's
something
we
don't
want
anybody
ever
to
go
through.
We
provide
emergency,
temporary
housing
that
shelters
and
long-term
or
permanent
housing,
and
we
do
this
again
through
a
very
wide
system
of
providers.
M
Next
slide,
please
there's
four
things
that
I
would
like
for
takeaways.
I
would
like
everyone
to
leave
with
today,
so
I'm
going
to
say
them-
and
I
may
repeat
them
number
one,
as
you
have
heard
from
every
speaker,
the
number
of
people
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
is
going
up
or,
as
we
say,
the
homeless
population
is
graying,
so
this
problem
is
growing,
not
shrinking,
as
you
have
heard,
over
and
over
again
from
every
single
speaker,
homeless,
shelters
are
not
equipped
to
deal
with
older
adults.
M
M
M
Growing.
The
affordable
housing
supply
alone
is
not
adequate
because,
as
you
heard
from
dennis
culhane,
the
income
of
many
seniors
is
eight
or
nine
hundred
dollars
a
month.
It
is
never
enough
to
afford
our
market
rent
and,
frankly,
it's
not
enough
to
afford
affordable
housing
quote
unquote.
Affordable
housing,
with
the
exception
of
pha,
is
largely
for
people
at
60
to
80
percent
of
area
median
income,
not
people
who
are
20
of
area
median
income
or
living
on
10,
000
or
8
000
a
month.
M
It's
simply
not
enough
money,
so
we,
the
prevention,
has
to
be
deeper
and
whether
it's
increasing
incomes
or
housing
options.
So,
let's
move
on
here
next
slide.
Please
I'm
going
to
skip
the
stats.
I
think
you've
heard
a
lot
of
the
stats
and
they're
available.
I
think
you
got
the
basic
facts.
The
numbers
are
high
they're
growing
and
let's
keep
going
here
into
some
of
our
solutions.
Next
slide.
M
Please
I'm
going
to
go
next
slide,
so
we
want
to
talk
about
a
couple
we'll
talk
about
four
or
five
different
solutions
that
we
have
adopted
during
covid
and
prior.
That
are
very
promising
that
I
think,
are
really
hopeful
and
that
can
can
help
us
guide
our
way
forward,
if
not
to
meet
every
single
need
to
at
least
create
more
opportunities
for
people
who
are
older,
not
have
to
live
in
congregate.
Settings
next
slide,
please
so
the
next.
M
The
first
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
is
what
we
call
non-congregate
shelter.
Non-Congregate
shelter
is
simply
a
place
where
people
have
their
own
room.
We
have
a
couple
different
kinds
of
non-congregate
shelters.
We
have
the
coveted
prevention
spaces
and
we
have
single
room
occupancies.
So
let
me
talk
about
the
covid
prevention
spaces.
M
As
you
know,
these
began
in
the
hotels
they
moved
to
community-based
settings.
In
just
january
of
2021.,
nearly
400
people
have
accessed
these
sites,
they're
still
open
and
operating.
We
have
a
waiting
list
and
nearly
228
people
more
than
220
have
exited
to
permanent
housing.
Philly
was
the
standard
bearer
in
this
area,
unlike
new
york,
which
got
sued
when
it
tried
to
send
people
back
into
congregate,
shelters
from
day,
one
philly's
plan
was
that
everybody
should
be
prioritized
for
permanent
housing
and
we
have
kept
our
promise.
M
Here's
the
bad
news
and
here's
what
we
should
be
worried
about.
The
cares
funding
that
has
been
the
esg
funding
emergency
solutions,
grant
funding
that
has
been
helping
us
operate,
these
sunsets
at
the
end
of
september
and
the
fema
emergency
declaration
ends
at
the
end
of
march.
So
the
long-term
sustainability
of
covid
prevention
spaces
is
really
up
in
the
air
at
this
point
in
time,
in
spite
of
its
success,
next
slide
slide.
Please.
M
The
next
program
that
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
are
single
room
occupancies,
and
this
has
really
been
kind
of
an
epiphany
to
us
because
it
really
goes
against
the
conventional
wisdom.
Our
sros
are
community-based.
M
These
are
largely
funded
by
again.
That
cares.
Emergency
solutions
grant
money
and
we
have
four
of
them
and
they're
unusual
in
that
people
they're
mostly
small
and
people
have
meals,
provided
they
have
their
own
room.
They
have
amenities,
they
have
case
management
and
it's
really
a
stepping
stone
for
many
of
our
older
people
and
they're
almost
exclusively
for
older
adults
to
be
able
to
move
into
long-term
housing.
M
But
it's
a
place
of
healing
and
care,
and
at
this
moment
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
chrissy
and
rob
who
run
two
of
our
coveted
prevention
spaces.
Just
to
give
you
a
couple
of
brief
remarks,
I
know
you
all
see
me
and
my
staff
talking,
but
I
think
we
don't.
Oh
you
don't
always
see
some
of
the
people
who
are
really
out
in
the
community
doing
some
of
the
most
innovative,
exciting
and
important
work
so
elder
harrison.
Q
Okay,
thank
you.
God
bless
you!
Thank
you,
everybody
and
most
of
all,
thank
you.
College
councilwoman
brooks
for
allowing
us
to
have
this
opportunity.
Some
of
you
may
see
my
face
and
know
me
as
a
person
out
there
in
the
street
dealing
with
anti-violence
a
lot
in
the
city,
especially
in
the
northwest
region.
I
am
a
big
big
advocate
of
that,
but
what
you
don't
know
my
heart
is
with
the
seniors
that
there's
this
between,
where
you
are
and
who.
C
Q
I'm
in
I'm
in
the
streets
fighting
for
violence,
but
my
heart
is
with
these
seniors
and
because
of
that,
let
me
just
first
of
all
say
I
give
100
support
to
this
hurts
and
her
team.
I
am
a
big
fighter
about
things,
doing
things
right,
I'm
going
to
keep
it
real
liz
and
I
have
never
been
the
best
of
friends,
but
guess
what
she
is
my
partner
right
now,
let's
keep
it
real.
I'm
talking
to
people
you're
talking
to
a
pastor.
Q
Q
R
Hi
brad
nice
to
see
you
hello,
everybody.
I
just
want
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
me.
My
name
is
nick
thomas
I'm
68
year
old
man
recently
released
from
state
prison,
and
I
want
to
tell
you
with
the
coven
going
on.
I
couldn't
even
obtain
a
appointment
for
social
security.
I
could
get
nothing
done.
I
was
hospitalized
for
11
days
with
the
cobit.
R
I
got
here
and
because
of
miss
allison
warfield.
Next
to
me
she
helped
me
she
got
me
my
social
security
appointment.
We
got
it
on.
I
now
have
what
I
call
family
here.
I
haven't
had
anything
ever
given
to
me.
I
worked
all
my
life.
Yes,
I
got
some
trouble,
but
I
paid
for
it,
and
these
people
have
given
me
not
just
the
gift
of
life
they
saved
my
life.
R
I
had
a
bump
with
a
bad
thing
here
and
I
almost
died
and
it's
not
for
these
people.
I
wouldn't
be
here,
but
I
am
here
and
I
thank
the
lord
and
I
want
to
just
let
it
be
known
that
us,
elderly
people
are
up
against
a
hard
hard
time.
Many
of
us,
and
thankfully
there
are
people
in
the
world
like
elder
harrison
his
wife,
misha,
allison
moorefield
here
and
because
of
them
and
people
like
them.
R
I
am
now
on
my
feet
getting
by
very
well
in
this
world
and
it
wouldn't
be
so
without
them.
So
I
just
want
to
reiterate
how
important
it
is
for
a
program
like
this
to
exist,
because
I
can
tell
you
there
are
many,
many
elderly,
homeless
people
suffering
out
there
in
the
cold
and
against
the
crime.
Okay,
because
I
can
tell
you
it's
dangerous
out
out
out
there,
okay
and
so
right
on
me.
R
If
you
t
one-on-one
man,
I
can
tell
you
late
at
night
in
this
town
old
man
like
me,
feels
like
like.
I
need
a
gun
and
I
don't
say
that
because
I
don't
carry
a
gun,
I'm
against
weapons.
I
I'm
a
veteran.
R
I
was
in
a
war,
I
know
what
it
is
and
I'm
against
violence
and
guns,
and
I
look
for
good
things
in
life
and
that's
what
I
have
here.
It's
a
very,
very
good
and
very
necessary
undertaking
that
these
people
are
involved
in
and
I'm
with
them
all
the
way,
all
right,
real,
quick.
F
All
right
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
herman
jackson
and
I've
been
at
the
horizon
house
for
a
year
or
so,
and
I
appreciate
all
the
things
that
I've
received
from
here,
and
mainly
from
mr
warfield
and
from
you,
and
your
wife
thing
has
been
very
changing
for
me.
So
far
as
life
is
concerned.
F
It
helped
me
to
really
get
myself
together.
My
problems
extended
from
before
I
get
got
here
and
it
helped
me
to
grow
to
get
myself
together
to
realize
god.
First
me
second
and
everything
else
afterwards,
there's
no
greater
love
than
the
love
of
the
master.
F
This
place
gave
me
security
and
it
helped
me
to
build
and
to
grow,
and
now
I'm
at
newmarket
west
in
my
own
apartment,
thanks
thanks
to
the
place
of
of
this
place,
and
I
appreciate
all
the
blessings
that
I've
been
getting
and
now
that
has
been
bestowed
upon
me
and
I
thank
all
the
people
that
has
helped
me
to
get
here.
Q
Thank
you,
sir.
I
think
young
man
he
just
got
on
transportation
at
eight
o'clock
this
morning
to
get
here
to
the
place
to
the
facility
to
be
able
to
say
this
to
you
and
I'm
not
doing
this.
For
me,
that
is
because
of
this
hershey
and
her
team,
and
I
thank
you
this
so
much
for
all
that
you've
done
and
city
council
for
putting
it
and
if
y'all,
have
a
tear
in
your
eye,
something
wrong.
Q
Many
of
the
formerly
homeless
seniors
men
and
women
have
directly
and
indirectly
burned
their
bridges
in
record
to
their
family
members
and
their
general
support
systems,
but
because
of
their
situation,
a
high
level
of
social
and
personal
traumatization
has
impeded
their
promise
of
a
well-deserved
future
for
them.
The
future
is
now
it's
our
mission
to
re-establish
their
support
systems
and
to
rebuild
the
bridge
that
was
burnt
down
this
by
redirecting
reconstructed
kindling,
the
positive
attributes
of
life,
in
search
of
focusing
on
the
bridge
that
we
burned
the
bridge
that
they
did
called
failure.
Q
Families
rising
house
tries
to
enlighten
them
and
not
just
family
vice
house.
Every
program
tries
to
enlighten
them
on
the
new
bridges
that
are
ahead
because
we
all
have
new
bridges
and
the
programs
that
osh
and
mrs
hirsch
has
provided
for
our
most
overlooked
and
under
deserved
under
underserved
population
overlooked
underserved.
Q
We're
talking
about
our
youth
and
our
singers
are
here,
they're
the
ones
that
built
these
hospitals
they're
the
ones
that
built
these
churches
they're
the
ones
that
built
your
building
right
now,
and
I
urge
you
to
help
keep
the
audacity
of
hope
alive
in
our
seniors.
Who
need
that
helping
hand?
Don't
let
this
program
go
under
I'm
with
you
100.
It
is
thank
you
roberta
and
thank
you.
Councilwoman
brooks.
M
M
S
Ma'am,
thank
you
very
much.
My
name
is
chrissy
judd.
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
peace
project.
I
want
to
thank
you.
Councilwoman
brooks
liz
daiquiri,
roberta
the
whole
team
for
everything
you
do.
You
guys
have
just
been
so
instrumental
in
making
our
sro
program
a
complete
success.
S
S
So
when
the
people
come
in,
they
don't
want
to
leave
because
we
show
them
what
it's
like
to,
even
though
you're
homeless
to
be
a
part
of
a
family,
and
we
do
things
with
them
that
we
want
them
to
continue
doing
once
they
leave
like
we
go
on
trips.
We
have
chatting
shoes
every
tuesday
and
saturday,
where
we
just
sit
around,
have
coffee
and
donuts
and
talk
about
their
lives
and
what's
on
their
minds,
we
have
house
meetings
once
a
week
where
we
can
talk
about.
S
You
know
what
what's
bothering
them,
what
we're
doing
well
what
we
can
improve
upon.
So
these
are
things
that
we
we
came
up
with,
that
we
brought
to
the
program
while
we're
helping
them
obtain
permanent
housing,
and
so
we
just
appreciate
the
support
of
ohs.
S
I
sent
zachary
an
email
about
having
that's
at
home
covet
test
and
within
the
next
week
we
had
at
home
cover
test
because
we
want
to
be
on
top
of
the
covet
pandemic
and
we
don't
you
know
we
want
to
make
sure
that
anybody
that
has
symptoms
we
can
address
it
immediately.
So
we
know
that
homelessness.
We
have
to
have
a
sense
of
urgency
in
everything
we
do.
S
So
I
appreciate
you
guys
just
taking
our
suggestions
and
implementing
them
very
quickly,
and
you
know
it's
just
a
team
effort
and
we're
just
so
grateful
to
be
a
part
of
this
love.
Pray,
peace
started
off
in
2014
addressing
homeless
veterans.
So
I
want
to
thank
that
gentleman
for
his
service.
He
did
mention
that
he
was
a
veteran
veterans.
Are
everything
to
me
they're,
like
my
favorite
people
in
the
world,
and
so
that's
why
I
started.
S
Love
pray,
peace,
but
when
the
opportunity
came
to
help
other
homeless
individuals,
we
know
that
a
veteran
they
serve
right.
They
serve
their
country
and,
with
our
mission
being
to
serve
veterans,
we
we
had,
we
wanted
to
do
more,
and
so
we
applied
for
the
the
grant-
and
you
know,
was
awarded
through
the
esg
funds
and
also
we
are
opening
a
second
location.
S
Thank
you,
roberta
and
daiquiri
and
sabrina,
because
we
are
able
to
now
not
only
help
15
homeless
individuals
but
30
homeless
individuals.
So
we're
just
very
grateful
to
be
a
part
of
this
space.
We're
very
grateful
kathy,
it's
good
to
finally
see
your
face.
We
work
so
closely
together.
I
appreciate
you
so
much.
S
A
lot
of
the
referrals
come
from
kathy
a
lot
of
people
go
to
grace
cafe
to
be
referred
to
lp3
once
the
word
gets
out
about
the
the
program
and
how
well
we're
doing,
and
everyone
loves
it,
and
so
we're
just
so
grateful.
I
just
can't
express
my
gratitude
enough
of
how
we
are
just
in
this
family
and
in
on
the
boots
on
the
ground,
working
to
end
and
eradicate
homelessness,
not
only
among
veterans,
which
is
a
travesty
in
itself
right,
but
among
just
individuals
who
who
need
our
help.
S
Like
pastor
rob
said,
these
are
people
who
you
know
it
could
be
our
grandparents.
It
could
be
our
parents
and
people
who
help
build
this
country,
so
we
just
this-
is
our
way
of
giving
back
and
we're
very,
very
appreciative
to
be
a
part
of
this
program.
M
Thanks
chrissy,
thank
you
so
leila.
I
don't
know
if
it's
possible
to
go
back
to
the
powerpoint,
which
seems
a
little
anticlimactic
after
hearing
all
those
testimonials
from
our
people,
but
we
really
wanted
you
to
hear-
and
I
know
sometimes
you're
on
the
front
lines.
Council
is
on
the
front
lines
of
talking
about
where
the
funds
are,
and
you
don't
always
see
the
people
who
are
are
putting
those
dollars
to
work.
M
So,
just
if
we
go
down
a
couple
more
slides
here
go
up
one
more,
the
one
more,
so
you
heard
what
up
back
up
sorry,
what
up
again
up
one
more
up
one
more
yep
there
we
go
okay,
so
the
sros
all
right.
So
we've
heard
about
that.
So
the
non-congregate
shelters,
the
covet
prevention
spaces
and
you
just
heard
from
several
people
about
our
sros.
M
So
let
me
just
briefly
go
through
a
couple
other
models
of
programs
that
we
have
that
really
work
in
preventing
a
return
to
homelessness
and
really
help
seniors
not
be
in
congregate
sites
which
are
not
really
suited
for
them.
So
if
we
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
one
of
the
you
know
we
go
the
next
slide,
please
one
of
the
innovative
programs
next
slide.
Please
not
it's
not
advancing.
Sorry
is
our
shared
housing
program
and
leila.
I
don't
know
our
council
support
if
we
can
get
to
the
next
slide.
M
But
I'll
talk
briefly
about
this.
The
shared
housing
is
another
phenomenal
program
that
we
have
where
the
city.
Oh
sorry,
we
missed
a
couple
slides
back
up
one
more.
M
There
we
go.
Thank
you
so
much
appreciate
it
so
shared
housing.
I
you
heard
from
professor
culhane
about
how
one
of
the
things
that
hud
funding
doesn't
let
us
do
is
go
to
allow,
as
have
unrelated
adults
live
together,
and
so
our
shared
housing
has
been
a
model,
an
innovative
model
that
we've
piloted
here
in
philadelphia
to
allow
three
unrelated
adults
to
live
as
roommates.
It
has
upward
of
ninety
percent
rate
of
success
in
preventing
a
return
to
homelessness.
M
A
lot
of
our
people
who
are
entering
are
50
plus
they're,
mostly
people
who
had
been
unsheltered
and
actually
our
first
bit
of
npi
money
is
going
to
go
to
expand
this.
It's
a
very
cost,
effective
model
people
like
it.
They
have
a
lot
of
choice
and
autonomy,
so
non-congregate
shelters
are
sros
shared
housing,
another
very
cost,
effective
model
for
some
people
that
they
like,
and
I
want
to
emphasize
choice.
Everybody
one
of
the
things
that
we
really
believe
in
is
not
always
possible
is
giving
people
choices.
M
We
all
like
different
living
situations
and,
to
the
extent
possible
we'd
like
to
give
people
choices.
Our
next
program
that
I
want
to
talk
about
briefly
is
our
share.
Is
our
homes
200,
which
is
a
the
is
the?
This?
Is
a
program
we
started
about
four
years
ago
for
people
who
are
on
a
low,
fixed
income?
M
So,
as
we
know
someone's
living
on
800
a
month,
they
can't
afford
a
market
rent,
but
we
have
had
a
number
of
landlords
who
are
willing
to
accept
600
a
month
without
having
that
money
go
up
or
down
like
a
regular
pha
voucher
would
go
and
for
people
who
are
have
a
fixed,
ssi
or
ssdi
income.
M
M
M
You
heard
the
the
problem
that
jonathan
explained
of
people
who
need
help
with
their
activities
of
daily
living
people
who
are
have
incontinence,
issues
who
are
in
wheelchairs
and
maybe
who
have
behavioral
health
challenges
and
their,
and
so
what
we've
been
trying
to
do
is
help
those
folks,
based
on
an
assessment,
that's
done
by
the
corporation
for
aging,
move
into
more
suitable
settings
where
they
have
the
independence
and
where
their
physical
and
behavioral
health
needs
are
met,
and
so
far
85
people
frail.
This
is
all
frail.
M
And
can
we
go
on
to
the
next
slide
and
let's
go
one
more
slide,
so
this
program
will
continue
to
operate
with
being
it.
Is
it
the
money
that
it's
the
budget?
That's
it
costs.
The
city
is
in
staffing,
but
we
have
encountered
some
barriers.
M
We
one
of
the
biggest
barriers
is
people
who
are
undocumented
and
we
actually
have
some
people
who
don't
know
where
they
are,
who
they
are.
So
the
what
we
are.
Actually
you
know
paying
for
them
to
be
housed
there.
So
that's
really
important
that
just
because
people
don't
have
documentation
that
that
not
be
the
reason
for
their
homelessness,
but
for
people
who
have
a
history
of
sexual
assault,
aggregate
assault
or
arson.
M
Those
folks
are
extremely
difficult
to
find
places
for
so
those
are
problems
that
we're
continuing
to
work
on,
and
I
think
the
other
problem
that
you've
heard
that
we
still
have
to
solve
is
how
do
you
get
people
from
the
street
to
this
place
and
we
do
have
one
medical
respite
with
21
beds,
but
we
we
have
to.
We
have
to
figure
out
how
to
meet
the
needs
of
people
coming
in
from
the
street.
M
So
last
slide,
please.
M
M
Shelters
are
not
congregate,
shelters
are
not
where
people
should
be
aging,
they
should
have
their
own
places
and
there
are
options
for
people
that
we
could
expand
upon
and
support
shared
housing,
our
sros,
our
non-congregate
shelters
and
our
peace
program,
where
people
who
really
need
that
extra
level
of
care
can
get
help
with
incontinence
those
adls
or
activities
of
daily
living.
M
So
those
are
all
programs
that
are
working,
they're,
cost
effective,
they
give
people
dignity
and
safety
and
security,
and
they
provide
the
the
a
place
to
live
so
that
they
have
that
basic
protection
of
a
for
a
basic
health
care
protection
of
housing,
so
that
we
hope
that
you
will
continue
to
help
us
support
and
expand
these
programs
that
you've
heard
about
from
our
guests
today
from
chrissy
from
rob
and
from
some
of
the
folks
from
our
sros
and
because
we
they.
M
M
And
thanks
council
support
for
the
help
with
the
powerpoint.
B
Thank
you
liz.
Does
that
conclude
your
testimony?
I
think
that
was
enough.
Don't
you
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure.
I
think
the
next
person
up
is
cheryl
bittegold.
C
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
dr
cheryl
bettagle,
I'm
the
commissioner
of
the
department
of
public
health,
so
so
greetings.
Chair,
brooks
vice
chair,
green
members
of
the
committee
on
intergenerational
affairs
and
aging.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
testify
in
support
of
resolution
number
21091
on
the
impact
of
houselessness
on
seniors
I'll,
be
relatively
brief
this
afternoon.
But
I
want
to
highlight
two
aspects
of
this
problem
today.
C
First,
the
impact
of
the
lack
of
a
home
and
everything
that
comes
with
it
in
terms
of
a
senior's
ability
to
control
their
own
health
and,
secondly,
the
risks
posed
by
congregate,
shelters
people
who
lack
a
home
of
their
own
are
at
higher
risk
of
the
development
of
chronic
conditions
and
have
greater
difficulty
managing
those
conditions
once
developed
without
the
ability
to
control
their
own
diets.
It
can
be
very
challenging
to
control
conditions
such
as
diabetes
or
high
blood
pressure.
C
During
my
residency,
I
frequently
admitted
seniors
due
to
infected
venous
ulcers,
a
condition
whose
true
treatment
is
a
comfortable
bed,
good
food
and
proper
medical
care
and,
of
course,
one
that
is
far
better
treated
preventively
at
a
city
health
center.
I
took
care
of
a
patient
with
diabetes,
who
felt
that
the
safest
locations
for
him
to
stash
his
insulin
were
in
abandoned
buildings
and
garages.
C
C
C
Horrific
though
coven
19
has
been,
it
is
easily
possible
that
we
could
see
another
pandemic
with
the
mortality
rate
10
or
20
times.
Higher
congregate
facilities
are
far
better
for
health
than
leaving
people
out
in
the
cold,
and
I'm
grateful
to
our
colleagues
at
the
office
of
homeless
services
for
all
they
do
to
provide
these
refuges
for
those
who
need
them.
C
B
Can
we
have
mark
myers
next?
Can
you
please
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
proceed
with
your
testimony.
T
I'm
the
director
of
facility
operations
and
housing
programs
at
philadelphia
corporation
for
aging.
Thank
you,
council
person,
kendra
brooks
and
members
of
the
intergenerational
affairs
and
aging
committee
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
today
regarding
housing
challenges
of
older
philadelphians,
philadelphia
corporation
for
aging,
also
known
as
pca,
is
the
state
designated
area
agency
on
aging
for
philadelphia
county.
T
We
provide
a
wide
range
of
services,
including
advocacy
service
coordination
for
long-term
care
programs,
protective
services,
home
delivered
meals
and
the
administration
of
senior
centers
each
year.
We
touch
the
lives
of
more
than
hundred
and
forty
thousand
older
adults
and
people
with
disabilities.
T
We
learned
that
this
committee
was
interested
in
hearing
not
only
about
pca's
housing
programs,
but
also
wanted
information
regarding
the
types
of
services
pca
provides
to
its
long-term
care.
Consumers
as
such
also
joining
us
today
is
shawnee
gilmore,
pca's,
executive
administrator
of
long-term
care
to
address
any
questions
you
may
have
regarding
those
programs.
T
Following
this
testimony,
I
will
begin
with
our
housing
program,
pca,
senior
housing
assistance,
repair
program
or
sharp,
provides
minor,
home
repairs
and
home
modifications
to
low-income,
philadelphia,
homeowners
aged
60
and
older
to
help
make
their
homes
safer,
more
secure
and
more
accessible,
minor
repairs
to
doors
and
stairs,
and
adaptations
such
as
bathtub
seats
and
grab
bars,
provide
much
needed
assistance
to
the
older
adults.
We
serve
sharp,
helps
address
minor
plumbing
and
electrical
needs,
as
well
as
locks
railings
smoke
and
carbon
monoxide
detectors.
T
Among
many
other
items,
depending
on
income,
sharp
services
may
be
offered
at
no
charge
or
on
a
cost
share,
sharing
sliding
scale.
Pca
short
program
provides
housing
services
to
approximately
600
older
philadelphians
annually.
Each
year
we
strive
to
reach
or
exceed
that
goal.
However,
rising
cost
of
services
and
increased
requests
for
major
home
repairs
beyond
our
capacity
are
two
of
the
ongoing
challenges
we
face
in
meeting
the
needs
of
all
who
reach
out
to
us.
Those
requesting
major
repairs
must
be
referred
to
city
programs
already
in
high
demand.
T
Increased
funding
is
critical
in
meeting
older
adults,
housing
challenges
and
helping
them
achieve
health
and
successful
aging
employees
regarding
the
long-term
care
departments
and
programs
within
pca.
These
include
long-term
care
assessment,
long-term
care
options,
dom
care,
caregiver
support
program
and
older
adult
protective
services.
T
T
T
Long-Term
care
options
offers
trained
care
managers
who
provide
personalized
coordination
for
those
that
require
long-term
support
to
remain
safely
in
their
homes.
Domcare
provides
alternative
living
arrangements
created
to
place
those
with
barriers
to
daily
living
in
a
friendly
home
environment
with
families
that
can
assist
with
their
needs.
T
T
T
You
may
also
request
assistance
via
a
web
referral
at
pcacares.org,
pca's
long-term
care
departments
have
always
worked
and
continue
to
work
collaboratively
with
agencies
throughout
philadelphia,
county
to
assist
with
housing
solutions
and
implementing
services.
Pca
remains
committed
to
consumers,
autonomy
and
independence,
so
they
may
safely
remain
in
their
homes
and
community.
T
T
However,
the
unique
challenges
presented
in
serving
those
who
are
unhoused,
such
as
inconsistent
and
unreliable
locations,
will
require
all
the
agencies
represented
here
today
to
work
together
collaboratively
to
address
these
needs.
Pcas,
the
council
prioritize
funding
for
long-term
and
full-day
shelter,
options
with
full
accessibility,
some
spaces
for
private
care
and
other
resources
for
unhoused,
older
adults.
T
We
appreciate
council
person,
kendra,
brooks
and
members
of
the
intergenerational
affairs
and
aging
committee
for
shining
light
on
this
very
important
issue
and
bringing
us
together
to
work
collectively
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
most
vulnerable
among
us.
We
look
forward
to
continuing
this
conversation.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
myers,
I
have
a
few
questions
for
the
panelists
before
I
open
it.
Up
to
my
fellow
fellow
committee
members.
First
liz:
once
a
senior
is
seeking
shelter.
What
does
the
process
look
like
from
there?
D
I
M
I'm
gonna
hand
this
over
to
roberta
cancellier,
our
director
of
housing
services,
to
talk
about
the
process
good
afternoon.
H
So
someone
seeking
shelter
can
do
so
through
our
various
intake
points
or
through
a
phone
calling
into.
H
H
I
would
say
we
do
our
best.
Some
of
the
shelters
are
more
accessible
than
others.
Some
we've
had
for
many
years,
they're
all
types
of
configuration
of
shelter,
and
we
really
do
our
best
to
make
the
best
match
for
an
individual
both
in
terms
of
location
facility
and
what
type
of
program
I
want
to
participate
in.
B
So
if
a
wheelchair
user
is
seeking
admission,
what
are
the
guidelines?
What
what
are,
what
are
the
shelter
providers
next
steps
into
providing
accessibility
or
finding
accessibility
for
shelter.
H
B
B
Okay,
so
if
someone
comes
into
the
shelter
and
they're
a
wheelchair
user
and
there
aren't
any
available
bids,
what
is
the
next
step.
H
M
Okay-
and
I
will
note
council
member-
brooks
that
actually
thanks
to
dominique
who
you
heard
from
earlier
that
we
did
get
clarity
from
the
state
that
aides
can
come
into
shelter
with
people
who
need
them.
So
if
someone
has
a
full-time
aide
that
helps
them
with
their
adls,
they
they
can
accompany
them
into
the
shelter
for
whatever
hours,
they're
entitled
to
be
there
and
help
them,
and
so
that
makes
a
big
difference,
because
our
shelter
staff
are
not
allowed
to
help
people
go
to
the
bathroom
or
take
showers.
M
They're
not
trained
to
do
that,
and
we
don't
have
adequate
staff
to
participate
ratios.
So
you
heard
from
jonathan
if
people
don't
have
an
aid
already,
that
really
does
present
a
real
challenge
for
us.
But
if
people
have
an
aide
and
we
can
find
an
accessible
bed
for
them,
then
that
aid
can
be
with
them
until
we
can
help
them
find
a
permanent
place
to
stay.
That's
accessible.
J
M
Oh
yeah
dominique
changed
the
world.
She
changed
the
world,
she
got
us
all
whipped
into
shape.
We
got
all
we
got
training,
we
updated
our
standards
and
we
got
the
state
to
change
and
be
clear
about
what
they're
doing
so.
M
We
we,
I
think,
we're
doing
a
much
better
job
now,
but
none
of
that
takes
away
from
the
fact
that
there
really
still
aren't
enough
accessible
places
for
people
to
live,
even
if
they
have
an
a
housing
voucher
or
if
they
get
admission
to
pha
or
they
get
affordable,
housing,
there's
still
a
pretty
dire
shortage
and
that
interim
state,
where
people
you
know
mate,
while
they
go
through
the
pca
assessment
and
all
of
that
sort
of
thing,
that's
still
very
much
of
a
challenge
for
us
and
we
yeah,
but.
M
I
was
going
to
say
I
mean
we
are.
We
are
opening
another
space
that
is
accessible
for
for
people
who
are
either
test
positive
for
covid
or
who
haven't
been
tested
or
don't
want
to
be
tested
that
will
be
available
24
hours
and
that
is
accessible,
but
this
issue
of
people
with
the
adl
who
need
help
with
adls
in
the
short
term.
That
is
a
real
challenge.
I
would
say.
B
And
I
think,
I'm
kind
of
pushing
here
to
make
sure
that
there
are
clear
guidelines
because
from
based
on
the
city
services,
there
are
multiple
agencies
that
handle
multiple
clients
and
it
would
be
nice
to
have
a
clear
guideline
on
what
people
are
to
do
because
turnover.
We
talked
about
staffing
turnover.
B
We
talk
about
people
not
being
available,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
if
someone
comes
into
the
shelter
and
is
needing
assistance,
they're
getting
the
same
information
of
how
the
city
provides
services
regardless
and
I'm
afraid
that
if
there
aren't
any
clear
guidelines,
that
information
can
be
varied
from
intake
process
to
intake
process
from
shelter
to
shelter.
So
I'm
asking
is
there
any
way
that
we
can
have
clear
guidelines
in
place
for
to
follow?
To
you
know,
for
clarity
and
to
prevent
like
ambiguity
into
what
is
the
expectation.
M
M
That's
available,
that's
made
available
to
staff,
none
of
which,
of
course,
addresses
the
supply
problem
when
you
have
a
supply
problem,
so
yes,
absolutely
there
is
that
guidance.
That's
clearly
written
into
the
contracts
that
all
everybody
signs
and
there
is
training
available.
That's
made
available
as
new
people
come.
M
Okay,
as
you
know,
we
do
have
a
participant
call
line,
so
we
really
inc-
which
I
know
that
constituent
services
staff
use
and
we
encourage
participants
to
use.
So
if
anybody
is
experiencing
a
problem
in
a
shelter
where
they're
not
getting
the
care
that
they
think
they
deserve,
or
they
feel
like
they're
being
mistreated
in
some
way.
We
want
to
know
about
that
right
away
because
we
don't.
We
don't
accept
that
we
we
want
ours.
We
want
to
have
high
quality
services
where
everybody's
treated
with
respect
and
dignity
and
that
number
is
686.
M
4700,
it's
available
24
hours
a
day.
You
can
leave
a
message.
A
social
worker
gets
back
to
that
person
if
they're,
not
if
they
don't
answer
the
phone
right
away
and
investigates.
So
if
there's
any
misu
mis
any
abuse
or
mistreatment,
that's
perceived
or
miscommunication
anything
like
that.
We
want
to
know
about
that
right
away,
so
we
can
fix
it.
B
M
We
do
yes,
we
do.
Yes,
we
do.
We
work
very
closely
with
pha.
Ohs
has
and
has
had
for
many
years
what
we
call
the
supportive
housing
clearing
house,
and
for
many
years
we
had
an
agreement
called
the
blueprint
to
end
homelessness,
where
individuals
and
families
had
access
to
pha
housing
now
with
the
emergency
housing
voucher.
M
That
also
goes
through
our
clearing
house
and
so
that
anybody
who
can
be
assessed
who's
in
the
homeless
system
in
one
place
or
another,
and
they
can
be
to
the
extent
it's
available,
matched
with
vouchers
or
conventional
housing
and
pha
really
has
worked
very
hard
to
make
conventional
senior
housing
available
to
many
of
our
people
and
then
that
that's
one
of
the
ways
that
people
from
the
sros
and
the
covet
prevention
spaces
have
gotten
into
long-term
housing.
M
Again,
this
is
you
know,
and
that's
so
that's
where
the
really
we've
seen
like
you
saw
stacy
and
her
house.
That
was
because
of
that
policy
and
that
partnership
and
pha,
just
like
us,
is
still
struggling
with
not
having
an
adequate
supply.
B
M
Thank
you
yes
stacey,
and
I
actually
we
actually
meet
monthly,
with
act
up
and
hear
from
them
about
what
they're
experiencing
in
an
and
really
take
their
input.
Really
they're
like
the
secret
shoppers
that
help
us
make
help
us
do
better.
B
M
M
Right
now,
I
think
we're
up
to
158
days
to
use
the
vouchers
out
of
ohs
has
made
gotten
263
completed,
applications
to
ohs,
I'm
sorry,
a
pha,
so
300
263,
completed
applications
of
people
who
are
homeless
currently
are
in
the
homeless
system
have
gone
to
pha.
So
far,
36
people
have
leased
up.
So
you
you
hear
that
struggle
is
real.
16
are
working
through
the
process
and
we
have
184
who
are
still
shopping
with
a
new
unit,
so
we
send
over
our
applications
every
week,
but
for
right
now.
M
Yes,
there
we
do
know
how
we
know
that
there's
184
people
shopping,
who
have
vouchers
and
it
is
taking
people
some
time.
Pha
has
renewed
incentives
for
landlords
they
get
500
for
signing.
Ohs
has
established
a
fund,
so
you
know
if
people,
if
there's
any
damage
to
places
they
you
know,
we
will
help
pay
for
that.
We
have
services
available,
so
we're
trying
now
pha
is
taking
on
some
more
extensive
marketing.
M
So
it
you
know,
we
we've
taken
a
number
of
steps
to
try
and
make
more
units
available
to
people,
but
it
is
taking
time
for
people
to
find
units.
We
find
that
there's
a
lot
of
discrimination
against
our
people.
We
under
beth
gonzalez's
guidance.
We
did
a
landlord
study
survey
a
couple
of
months
ago.
Beth.
You
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
we
found
from
that's
from
that
survey,
so
it's
really
very
informative
and
has
helped
us
to
make
some
changes.
H
Sure
this
is
beth
gonzalez
from
the
office
of
homeless
services,
and
so
we
contacted
a
lot
of
people
in
different
landlord
networks
and
collected
over
400,
servings
and
interestingly
51
percent
of
those
had
units
either
5
or
less,
and
about
30
percent
of
the
landlords
who
responded
in
the
survey
had
30
plus
units.
H
So
really
just
looking
at
those
two
of
our
biggest
respondents,
and
it
was
interesting
because
they
said
they
wanted
to
learn
more
about
the
emergency
housing
vouchers.
H
Many
had
not
ever
housed
anyone
with
a
voucher,
but
then
they
said
they
were
not
interested
in
pha
vouchers.
So
you
could
tell
definitely
there
was
a
need
of
being
educated
about
the
benefits
and
how
they
can
help
each
other
and
partner,
while
also
helping
the
community.
H
So
definitely
they
were
interested
in
learning
more
so
we're
going
to
be
working
with
our
landlord
engagement
specialists
to
really
educate
folks
help
them
learn
if
they're
new
entering
into
the
market,
other
landlords
and
networking
with
other
folks
who
do
take
vouchers
and
talk
about
the
pros
and
the
cons
and
any
risk
mitigation
factors
that
we
can
do
to
help
them
and
really
and
then
we're
actually
starting
a
collaborative
within
the
city
in
itself
of
everyone.
Who's
doing
all
these
siloed
approaches
to
landlord
engagement
strategies.
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
that.
My
next
question
is
the
city
is
losing
affordable
units
at
a
rapid
pace
and
we
are
not
seeing
viable
market
solutions
that
address
the
homeless
population,
which
other
programs
that
you
mentioned
specifically
provide
affordable,
long-term
units
that
are
not
being
developed
by
market
developers.
B
Like
which
of
the
programs
that
you
mentioned
specifically
provide
affordable
loan
credit
long-term
units,
but
they're
they're
being
not
being
developed
by
market
developers
like.
M
Oh
well,
none
of
them
are
being
developed
by
market
developers.
The
mark,
the
the
housing
vouchers
are
the
only
ones
that
use
market
rate
units
or
that
really
are
linked
up
with
the
market.
Our
shared
housing,
those
are
pha
scattered,
site
units
that
are
vacant
that
we
renovate,
and
then
we
have
a
provider
self-incorporated
that
helps
people
live
there.
M
M
How
when
this,
let
me
back
up
when
the
city
develops
finances,
affordable,
housing,
development
through
the
department
of
planning
and
development
using
the
low-income
housing
tax
credit
10
of
those
units
come
to
our
supportive
housing
clearinghouse,
that's
about
maybe
20
units
a
year
that
we
get
if
there
were
a
rent,
additional
rent
subsidy
for
the
for
some
of
those
units,
so
we
could
get
to
20
or
30
percent.
M
That
would
help
that
would
make
the
quote-unquote
affordable
units
deeply
affordable
to
our
people
and
especially
if
some
percentage
of
them
were
made
were
accessible
to
people
with
disabilities.
B
Thank
you
liz
and
thank
you
to
liz's
team
for
your
testimony
and
answering
my
questions.
It's
the
city's
team,
the
city's
team.
We
work
for
the
office
of
oahs.
Thank
you
guys
for
providing
you
know,
clarity
to
the
questions
that
we
provided.
My
next
question
is
for
dr
binnickle.
B
What
efforts
has
pdph
taken
to
ensure
medical
services
are
available
to
seniors
living
in
shelter
or
in
covet
isolation?
Hotels,
wow.
This
crisis
is
still
happening.
C
So
you
know
in
general,
the
medical
services
people
get
right
now,
and
this
is
something
we're
actively
discussing,
but
it's
really
very
individual
based.
So
if
people
have
a
provider,
if
they
go
into
shelter,
they
would
continue
to
see
that
same
provider.
If
they
have
a
medical
emergency
or
something
urgent,
then
they
would
go
to
an
emergency
room.
The
covet
hotel,
the
iq
hotel,
has
really
been
set
up
for
people
who
are
able
to
be
independent.
C
We
provide
nursing
staff
there
who
do
daily
wellness
checks,
but
anybody
who
is
oxygen
dependent
or
has
substance,
use,
disorder
or
needs
more
than
can
be,
provided
you
know
they're
they're
alone,
in
a
hotel
room
all
day.
So
it's
really
not
a
good
setup
for
people
who
need
medical
care.
It
basically
just
provides
food,
a
bed
and
bathroom,
and
you
know
some
some
amenities
to
help
people
pass
the
time
and
then
those
wellness
checks.
C
So
I
do
think
that
there's
a
conversation
that
we
need
to
have
about
sort
of
the
the
the
people
who
come
into
shelter
with
underlying
serious
medical
disorders
of
of
whom
there
are
many.
Some
of
them
are
seniors.
Some
of
them
are
not,
I
mean,
homelessness
being
very,
very
hard
on
the
body,
but
about
what
makes
sense
there.
That's
not
really
necessarily
a
coveted
conversation.
It's
it's
a
you
know
human
beings
and
need
for
care
conversation,
but
what
what
gives
people
the
most
choice?
What
is
the
most
supportive?
C
B
Because
you
know,
we've
heard
in
our
testimony
that
shelter
staff
are
providing
medical
services
and
doing
the
wellness
checks,
and
you
know
they
don't
have
the
background
or
experience
to
be
doing
that.
So
you
know
I'm
very
interested
in
how
coordinated
services
can
help
us
provide
the
best
quality
shelter
care
available,
because
if
we
had
a
miss,
the
wellness
check
method
that
you
that's
available
at
the
copic
prevention
site
covet
isolation
sites.
I'm
sorry,
I
get
all
these
different
locations
confused.
C
Well,
so
a
couple
of
things
I
mean
those
wellness
checks
really
are
somebody
knocking
on
the
door
and
saying:
are
you
okay?
So
it's
not
the
kind
of
thing
you
know.
I
think,
for
example,
wound
care
was
brought
up
earlier
and
and
that's
a
really
important
component-
that's
not
something
we
do
at
the
hotel.
C
C
C
That's
maybe
more
consolidated,
you
know
I
mean
this
is
a
very
early
conversation,
so
I
don't
want
to
jump
ahead
of
ourselves,
but
I
think
there's
a
real
need
there
and
then
the
question
is:
what's
the
best
way
to
do
that,
there's
also
an
issue
of
choice
for
people,
so
we
can
bring
medical
services
to
people
where
we
can't
assume
that
they
want
the
medical
services
we
brought.
So
that's
another
piece
of
this.
You
know
like
before
somebody
became
homeless
or
came
into
shelter.
They
may
have
had
a
provider.
C
I
you
know
I
when
I
was
at
health
center
six.
I
took
care
of
multiple
people
who
didn't
have
a
fixed
address.
We
used
to
use
the
health
center
address
for
them
and
they
were
my
patients
for
years.
So
you
know
some
people
prefer
to
choose
their
own
doc.
Some
people
would
very
much
I'm
sure,
welcome
the
availability
of
services
on
site
and
so
there's
a
lot
to
be
parsed
out
there.
B
Okay,
but
just
like
very
preliminary,
this
is
the
beginning
of
a
larger
conversation
on
how
we
can
make
sure
that
you
know
we're
looking
out
for
the
well-being
of
folks
in
shelter
and
not
overburdening
shelter
staff
with
responsibilities
that
they
aren't
necessarily
trained
or
prepared.
For
that.
That's
kind
of
weird
a
concern.
C
Exactly
exactly
and
and
you
know,
I
mean
the
reason
that
we
have
nurses
doing
those
wellness
checks
is,
if
somebody
says
not
sure
the
nurse
is
able
to
to
assess
them,
and
so
you
know
how.
How
do
we
I
mean
covet?
Is
you
know
one
question,
but
lots
of
people
in
shelter
have,
as
I
mentioned,
betastasis
ulcers
lots
of
them
have
cardiovascular
disease,
high
blood
pressure
diabetes.
You
know,
we
don't
want
our
shelter
staff
to
to
have
to
become
experts
in
all
of
that.
B
I
think,
in
terms
of
I
think
about
mr
waters
when
he
talked
about
how
he
was
juggling
his
medication
on
the
street
and
figured
out
our
shelter
providers
or
intake
staff
are
not
trained
to
understand
that
somebody's
going
through
a
diabetic
emergency
right
or
you
know
or
know
what
to
do,
and
those
are
the
things
that
I'm
kind
of
trying
to
connect
the
dots
really
people
responsible
for
life-threatening
conditions
that
they
they
have.
No
training
on
that.
That's
where
my
concern
lies,
but,
yes,
we
can
continue
this
conversation
moving
forward.
M
Council
member,
we
do
have
health
care
for
the
homeless,
connected
with
all
of
our
shelters
with
our
shelters.
We
do
have
nurses
from
phmc
at
intake
and
one
of
the
things
that
the
shelter
staff
is
trained
to
do
and
I'm
not
trying
to
take
anything
away
from
the
conversation,
because
we
are
100
in
agreement
and
it's
terrifying,
but
people
do
get
referred
and
transported
to
their
primary
care,
health
care
providers
and
to
hospitals
or
other
medical
care
if
they
need
to
so
people
are
getting
care.
M
I
think
it's
a
lot
of
the
sort
of
chronic
illnesses
or
the
day-to-day
kinds
of
things
where
you
know
we're
where
I
think
we're
still
we're
still
stretched.
I-
and
I
I
think
you
know
like
like
cheryl,
said
the
the
covet
has
really
we've
always
known
that
the
health
of
people
experiencing
homelessness
is
compromised
and
that
they
have
many
more
health
problems
than
people
who
are
housed.
M
Obviously,
but
I
think
covid
has
really
kind
of
really
is
really
moving
us
in
to
a
whole,
different
level
of
examining
the
relationship
between
the
health
care
system
and
homelessness.
But
I
don't
want
you
to
leave
this
conversation,
thinking
that
that
the
shelters
are
full
of
sick
people
that
aren't
being
cared
for
because
they
are
getting
referred
to
medical
care
transported.
M
We
do
have
resources
available
and
I
think
that
it
would
really
be
doing
a
disservice
to
our
shelter
staff
and
you've
met
some
of
them
today
to
think
that
they
are
not
responding
to
acute
health
situations
as
they
arise
for
people
in
the
in
the
homeless
system.
Absolutely.
B
That
was
not
my
intention.
My
intentions
were
just
to
draw
attention
to
the
healthcare
crisis
that
we
currently
have
and
homelessness,
and
the
realization
that
seniors,
even
seniors
that
are
housed,
have
problems
with
their
medication,
whether
getting
it
taking
it
on
time
and
remembering
that
it's
there
and
when
we
combine
our
health
care
crisis
with
issues
related
to
seniors
and
homelessness.
B
Together,
we
put
our
ourselves
in
like
a
an
interesting
situation
that
we
need
to
address,
and
I'm
saying
from
someone
who
have
you
know:
elderly
folks,
that
I
care
for,
and
I
have
to
check
on
their
medicine
and
all
of
these
other
things,
and
just
imagine,
I
think,
reverend
harrison
and
that
program
talk
about
folks
who
are
already
disconnected
from
their
families
because
they
burn
bridges.
So
they
don't
have
that
immediate
level
of
checks
and
balance
around
their
health
care
in
general.
B
Right
exasperated
with
the
mental
health
issues,
I
think
dominique
mentioned
with
being
homeless
and
trying
to
juggle
the
two
and
mr
waters
talking
about
whether
he
he
was
more
concerned
about
karen
for
his
health
than
whether
or
not
he
had
a
place
to
go
to.
B
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
is
it
a
way
that,
as
combined
city
services
can
come
together
to
prevent
these
barriers
to
make
sure
that
we're
looking
at
the
quality
of
life
for
the
folks
in
the
shelter
and
also
not
overburdening
the
shelter
staff
with
responsibilities
that
they
may
not
be
qualified
to
take
care
of?
Besides
initial,
like
there's
something
wrong,
and
so
you
can
look
until
there's
something
wrong,
but
then
what's
next
or
what
could
have
happened
between
there?
B
So
that's
kind
of
the
purpose
of
this
hearing
to
bring
all
those
conversations
together
for
some
strong,
long-term
solutions
to
help
provide
support
for
shelter
providers,
as
well
as
our
homeless
population
that
are
using
these
services
and
how
we
can
be
better
stewards
over
the
services
that
we
fund
in
the
city
and
that's
kind
of
my
line
of
question.
It
was
not
to
point
a
finger
at
shelter
providers
not
doing
their
job.
I'm
just
concerned
if
they're,
if
we're
providing
them
all
the
tools
that
they
need
to
do
a
good
job.
B
I
have
a
question.
Oh
in
the
past,
we've
had
hurdles
providing
homeless
populations,
access
to
covet
hotel
quarantine,
and
I
mean
what
hurdles
have
we
had
in
providing
the
homeless
population
with
covet
hotels,
quarantine
and
isolation,
services.
C
Okay,
sure
so
and
there's
a
transition,
that's
sort
of
happening
over
the
next
few
weeks,
but
so
we
have
had
for
more
than
a
year
now
an
isolation
and
quarantine
hotel
and
that's
been
a
joint
collaboration.
C
You
know
lots
of
agencies,
helping
health
department
leading
that
and
that
really
has
been
meant
to
provide
a
place
for
people
to
isolate
or
quarantine
safely,
whether
or
not
they're
homeless,
but
just
if
they
didn't
have
a
safe
place
to
do
that.
So
somebody
who
lives
in
crowded
housing,
for
example,
might
not
have
a
separate
bedroom
and
bathroom.
You
know
for
a
person.
Typically,
it
has
become
really
ninety
percent
used
by
people
who
who
don't
have
stable
housing
or
are
homeless
it.
C
Actually,
you
know
lots
of
cities
closed
their
isolation,
quarantine,
hotels,
philadelphia
did
not
when
numbers
dropped
last
summer
and
then
we
used
it.
You
know
into
the
fall
surge.
You
know,
I
think
it's
it's
a
challenge
to
figure
out
when
numbers
are
low.
What
do
you
do?
It's
a
very,
very
expensive
place
to
operate
about
a
million
dollars
per
month.
Right
now
we
have
10
guests,
six
of
whom
are
from
a
single
family,
so
we're
not
using
much
of
it.
C
But
you
know
there
is
this
need
to
have
a
place
for
people
to
go
safely.
You
know
if,
if
numbers
were
to
increase
or
just
if,
if
somebody
is
positive
and
at
a
place
that
doesn't
have
a
a
private
room,
a
place
for
them
to
be
safely
the
in
terms
of
accessibility
we
have
and-
and
I
will
say
that
we,
like
everybody
else
in
the
city-
have
had
some
struggles
with
hiring.
C
So
you
know
there
are
limits
to
our
ability
to
staff
up
very
quickly
as
when
omnicron
hit,
which
was
why
we
reached
out
to
partner
organizations
to
see
if
they
were
able
to
help
with
staffing.
Ohs
did
send
staff
over
to
help
for
which
we're
grateful.
Our
partners
were
in
the
same
situation.
They
weren't
able
to
add
staff
quickly
during
the
surge.
C
So
what
we?
What
we've
been
doing
is
we
have
a
team
that
assesses
whether
people
are
safe
for
the
site.
So,
for
example,
you
know,
as
I
mentioned,
they
have
to
be
safe
to
be
in
a
room
alone
all
day,
so
there
are
some
people
who
are
not
independent
with
their
activities
of
daily
living,
who
wouldn't
be
able
to
safely
be
at
the
hotel.
There's
a
medical
screening
team.
C
They
have
been
working
basically
six
days
a
week,
they're
we
they're
not
working
on
sundays,
but
they
are
working
on
saturdays.
They
worked
on
a
bunch
of
holidays
just
to
try
to
make
the
place
open
as
much
as
possible.
It
isn't
currently
24
7.
and
I
know
that's
been
been
of
interest.
We
don't
get
a
lot
of
overnight
referrals
or
referrals.
You
know
on
sundays,
but
you
know.
C
I
know
that
when
there's
a
need,
that's
in
need,
so
that
is
definitely
a
challenge
and
the
money
runs
out
at
the
end
of
march.
So
that's
a
another
challenge,
but
you
know
I
think
it
probably
would
be
useful
liz.
If
you
wouldn't
mind
talking
about
chris.
M
Yeah,
so
we
are
in
the
process
of
establishing
another
quarantine,
it'll,
be
it's
going
to
be
called
the
coveted
recovery
isolation
space
and
it
will
be.
We
will
have
24
hour
access.
It
is
fully
wheelchair
accessible
and
will
be
exclusively
for
men
who
are
homeless,
who
test
positive
for
covid
or
who
are
do
not
want
to
get
tested,
so
outreach
will
be
able
to
bring
people
there,
and
so
will
people
from
station
house
which
you
heard
from
earlier.
M
We
are
convening
a
work
group
with
the
office
of
emergency
management
to
do
preparedness
planning,
while
we
have
this
moment
of
respite
and
peace
from
the
pandemic,
which
hopefully
will
last
another
five
minutes
to
start
to
do
some
planning
on
some
of
these,
especially
prickly
problems
like
how
do
you
keep
a
site
open
when
there's
no
people
in
it
and
then
how
do
you
staff
up
quickly?
M
You
know,
which
I
think
is
what
happened
to
us
in
december
january,
when
we
couldn't
find
staff
so
really
trying
to
get
at
some
of
these
issues,
but
and
engaging
our
partners
in
that,
but
in
the
short
term
or
in
the
immediate
term,
we
we
will
have
another
place
available
and
it's
in
city-owned
property.
M
So
it
does
bring
a
cost
down
significantly
and
makes
it
more
manageable
for
a
place
for
people
to
go
so
that
they
won't
be
asked
to
isolate
on
site
as
we
as
we
experienced
with
you
know,
the
tremendous
numbers
in
january
with
the
omicron
surge,
okay.
B
I
think
that
kind
of
answered
my
next
question,
but
I'm
going
to
ask
it
anyway
for
future
surges.
How
will
the
city
ensure
that
people
entering
shelters
will
be
able
to
access
cobit,
hotel,
quarantine
and
isolation
services
24
hours,
seven
days
a
week?
You
mentioned
some
of
the
things
that
are
put
in
place,
but
what
does
that
look
like
if
we
have
another
surge
over
the
next
couple
of
months
well
to
be
right?
C
You
know,
I
think
one
of
the
challenges
that
we've
been
trying
to
think
about
is
which
I
would
phrase
a
little
bit
differently.
But
how
do
we
use
this
influx
of
funds
into
a
system?
That's
chronically
underfunded
to
better
prepare
us
for
future,
whether
it's
a
covid
surge
or
some
other
infectious
disease.
But
we
know
that
having
people
stay
in
large
rooms,
you
know
leaves
potential
for
the
transmission
of
infection
of
all
sorts,
whether
it's
covet
or
something
else
so
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
use
funds
to
build
something
like
the
chris
site.
C
That's
for
the
future
that
we,
you
know
where
we
have
options
for.
How
can
we
quickly
get
people
to
places
where
they
can
get
a
separate
room?
And
when
we've
looked
at
what
what
other
cities
are?
Doing,
I
mean
24
access
to
an
inq
hotel,
I
think,
is
challenging
for
everyone,
but
there
are
places
where
your
initial
intake
is
into
a
place
that
has
has
single
rooms
available
and
so
that
kind
of
changes.
The
equation.
C
If
you
have
the
ability
to
give
somebody
a
private
room,
that's
different
from
you're,
going
to
go
sleep
in
this
large
room
with
lots
of
other
people
and
we're
not
sure
if
you
have
coke
yet
so
there's
a
lot
that
goes
into
that
planning.
But
but
that's
sort
of
you
know
and
liz,
please
chime
in
if
I'm,
if
you
would
say
this
differently,
but
I
just
feel
like
this.
This
ability
to
get
people
out
of
large
congregate
sites
and
into
it
more
into
safer
spaces
is
really
what
we're.
After.
B
Thank
you
so
much,
dr
dr
medical.
I
think
that
that
definitely
answers
my
question
and
thank
you
for
being
available
to
answer
these
questions.
My
next
question
is
for
mark
myers.
B
How
would
pca
describe
their
role
in
supporting
homelessness,
slash,
affordable
housing
needs
and
how
can
emergency
housing
providers
or
just
call
best
used
pca
services.
T
I
I
think
what
I
may
need
to
do
on
this
piece,
since
this
really
connects
with
some
of
what
our
long-term
care
programs
do.
I'm
going
to
ask
shaunie
gilmore
if
she's
on,
if
she
could
just
kind
of
respond
to
to
those
those
two
parts
there.
She
is
you're
on
me,
you're
on
mute,
johnny.
H
Thank
you.
I
always
do
that
hi,
my
name
is
shauni
gilmore,
as
mark
had
stated,
and
I'm
the
executive
administrator
for
long-term
care
at
pca
to
it.
Can
you
repeat
your
question
again?
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
answering
it
correctly.
H
Okay,
so
with
with
that
in
terms
of
pca,
we
do
provide
resources
in
terms
of
we
do
have
a
housing
booklet
that
lists
all
the
different
housing
available.
All
the
that
we
have
that
we
have
a
collective
list
about.
It
may
not
list
all
of
them,
but
you
know
the
apartments
for
housing
under
65
and
over
65,
as
well
as
in
general,
and
they
can
get
that
booklet
by
calling
the
helpline
also
for
housing.
We
don't
pca,
doesn't
place
housing.
H
We
we
do
provide
resources,
so
there
isn't
necessarily
a
way
that
we
can
place
people
in
terms
of
housing.
It's
more
of
resources
for
housing.
Like
I
said,
we
have
a
housing
booklet,
it
has
collectively
different
senior
settings
in
terms
of
emergency
providers
for
housing.
H
They
could
definitely
we
could,
probably
in
the
future
and
going
forward
collaboratively
work
with
these
providers
to
work
out
some
type
of
system.
That
would
be
great,
we're
always
looking
to
collaboratively
work
to
assist
the
homelessness
and
the
shelter
issue
in
philadelphia.
So
that's
something
that
we
could
work
on
in
the
future.
B
So
jeff
just
for
clarity,
your
resource
guide
or
booklet
that
you're
mentioning
does
it
have
a
listing
of
affordable,
accessible
housing
in
the
city
in
the.
H
City
of
philadelphia,
so
it's
a
booklet
like
and
and
a
lot
of
times
when
consumers
or
advocates
for
consumers
when
they
call
in
the
pca
and
they
get
the
helpline
and
they're
looking
for
housing
a
lot
of
times.
They
can
just
send
that
out
now.
The
thing
about
it
is
that
that
becomes.
The
issue,
sometimes,
is
that
you
need
someone
to
assist
you
with
filling
out
the
application.
So
it's
just
it's
just
an
avenue
to
list
because
it's
hard
to
get
all
of
the
listings
in
philadelphia.
H
So
it's
one
it's
one:
booklet
where
it
does
list
a
bunch
of
the
housing.
That's
avail
about
a
bunch
of
the
senior
housing,
that's
in
philadelphia,
and
it
gives
you
the
contact
information.
It
gives
you
the
kind
of
like
the
debt
like
a
small
demographics
about
it.
You
would
have
to
contact
the
actual
facility
for
more
information.
However,
it
does
give
you
a
brief
overview
of
everything.
H
So
you
know
I
always
advocate,
and
I
tell
people
this
at
church
and
everything,
even
if
you're
thinking
about
and
this
just
this
is,
I
know-
for
homelessness
and
shelters,
but
even
those
that
are
looking
to
move
into
senior
housing
when
they're,
even
thinking
about
maybe
transitioning,
because
their
home
is
falling
apart
or
they
need
to
sell
it
or
there's
some
type
of
issue
get
on
that
list,
because
there
is
a
waiting
list,
there's
a
there's,
a
long
waiting
list
for
housing
in
philadelphia.
H
H
Terms
of
all
the
all
of
the
housing
that
we
have
in
our
booklet,
I
would
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
that,
because
the
our
intake
manages
that
so
it
may
not
have
all
the
newer
facilities
on
it
so
and
again
yeah.
I
would
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
that,
because
I'm
not
sure
if
how
new
it
is
in
terms
of
like
the
newer
senior
apartments
that
may
have
come
about,
and
things
like
that.
Okay.
B
Yes,
since
we
put
it
out
here,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
know
people
aren't
looking
for
things
that
are
new.
That
haven't
been
added.
That's
that's
my
reason
just
for
clarity,
but
that
was
very
helpful.
Thank
you,
everyone
for
answering
these
questions,
and
I
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that
kind
of
went
into
making
sure
that
we
have
a
hearing
to
get
these
things
on
record.
B
You
know
for
our
constituencies.
Are
there
any
questions
or
comments
from
members
of
the
committee.