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From YouTube: Committee on Aging 10-2-2017
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The Committee on Aging of the Council of the City of Philadelphia held a Public Hearing on Monday, October 2, 2017, at 10:00 AM, in Room 400, City Hall, to hear testimony on the following item:
170375 Resolution authorizing the Committee on Aging to hold hearings regarding senior housing.
Committee on Aging
Chair: Councilman Al Taubenberger (At Large)
Vice Chair: Councilman Derek Green (At Large)
A
Good
morning
my
name
is
al
taubenberger
and
I
am
the
chairperson
of
the
aging
committee.
We
have
a
quorum
in
front
of
me
to
my
right
is
councilman
Alan
Tom
to
my
left
is
councilman
and
vice-chair
dark
green
and
at
this
point
we're
going
to
have
the
clerk
read
the
title
of
resolution,
one
seven:
zero
three:
seventy
five,
a
resolution
authorizing
the
Committee
on
Aging
to
hold
hearings
regarding
senior
housing
and
recognition
of
May
as
Senior
Awareness
Month.
B
B
Thank
You
mr.
chair
I,
think
the
people
who
are
assembled
here
this
morning
to
have
a
conversation
regarding
this
important
topic
and
from
my
experience
and
previous
life
I
was
the
chair
of
the
board
of
the
center
in
the
park,
which
is
a
senior
housing
center
in
Vernon
Park
in
Germantown,
and
one
of
the
issues
that
was
a
constant
struggle.
What
Senator
Park
was
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
provided
housing
for
our
members.
Now
we
were
fortunate
to
develop
maple
village,
which
is
a
multi-unit
housing
facility
on
a
campus
of
Centre
in
the
park.
B
However,
since
that
time
period
I
was
developed
in
the
late
90s,
there's
been
constant
issues
and
concerns
for
our
members
in
reference
to
housing,
something
that
I
know
it's
something
very
acute
in
the
northwest
where
we
have
no
diversity
of
homes,
and
many
seniors
was
my
father-
was
a
seasoned.
Citizens
have
challenges
as
they
become
older
and
getting
up
and
down
stairs
and
need
all
types
of
adaptive,
building,
type
of
changes
to
their
homes,
and
so
many
seniors
often
want
to
stay
in
their
communities.
B
But
the
opportunity
to
do
so
is
not
as
available
in
the
northwest
and
from
my
travels
around
City
photography.
I've,
often
seen
that
as
an
issue
and
concern
as
seasoned
citizens
start
to
downsize
and
it's
their
children
and
their
loved
ones
may
no
longer
be
with
them
or
moved
away.
It's
more
and
more
challenging
to
maintain
a
household
and
that's
why
I
feel
this?
B
A
Councilman
green,
thank
you
very
much
and
also
for
your
leadership
on
this
and
bringing
forward
this
forward
to
the
committee
as
chair
I
also
like
to
recognize
Councilwoman
Cheryl
Parker
is
here
with
us
this
morning
and
in
councilman.
Do
you
have
any
opening
remarks
and
councilman
Dom
any
opening
remarks
in
that
case?
Will
the
clerk
please
call
the
first
witness
further
fur
for
the
first
panel
Lydia
Hernandez
Velez
and
Katherine
Capano.
C
Good
morning,
one
of
the
chairmen
taubenberger
and
the
members
of
Committee
on
Aging
I
am
Leah
and
on
this
villas,
deputy
managing
director
for
aging
and
I'm
here
to
testify,
regarding
resolution
number
one,
seven,
zero
375
introduced
by
Councilman
green,
which
calls
for
hearings
to
discuss
the
need
for
senior
housing.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
share
information
and
perspective
on
a
crushing
issue
that
will
be
a
challenge
for
the
city
in
the
years
to
come.
To
put
the
challenge
in
perspective.
C
There
are
approximately
340
2287
households
in
Philadelphia
that
include
at
least
one
person
over
the
age
of
55.
According
to
the
2015
American
Community
Survey,
an
elder
is
the
head
of
the
household
in
88.5
2%
of
those
households
of
those
households.
17.7
have
an
elder
in
the
household,
with
an
income
of
less
than
100%
of
the
federal
poverty
guidelines
and
40.2
of
these
households
have
an
elder
with
an
income
of
less
than
200%
of
the
federal
poverty
guidelines
of
these
households.
38.3
of
the
homes
are
owned.
Free
and
clear
and
33.4
are
owned.
C
With
a
mortgage,
26.5
are
rented
regarding
the
homes
with
seniors.
54%
of
these
homes
were
built
before
1950
and
33.
Heaven
33%
have
an
adult
living
alone.
7.6
of
these
households
are
linguistically
isolated.
These
statistics
translate
to
a
demand
for
senior
housing
as
residents
capacity
to
manage
life
given
physical
and
cognitive
challenges.
Increase
Philadelphia
suffers
from
a
dearth
of
such
housing
for
seniors.
In
many
developments
the
scene,
the
waiting
lists
are
six
months
to
two
years
long.
C
Moreover,
many
seniors
face
relocating
to
facilities
some
distance
from
their
network
of
a
faith,
community,
family
and
friends,
making
them
vulnerable
to
isolation
and
depression.
The
linguistically
unique
communities,
lack
of
housing
impacts,
seniors
neck-
negatively
facing
a
change
in
the
tenor
of
the
day-to-day
interactions,
because
of
a
limited
English
proficiency
contributes
to
negative
health,
comes
for
isolated
individuals.
Just
a
quick
review
of
the
issues
that
seniors
bring
to
the
mayor's
Commission
on
Aging
shows
a
perfect
the
pervasive
nature
of
the
housing
situation
of
over
a
thousand
people
that
came
to
the
information
and
referral
service.
C
Seventy
percent
of
these
issues
touched
on
housing.
Some
residents
were
about
to
become
homeless
because
their
homes
or
in
serious
disrepair
some
were
facing
eviction
because
their
income
could
not
meet
the
increases
in
rents
and
some
were
seeking
assistance
to
obtain
benefits
such
as
Supplemental
Nutrition,
Assistance,
Program
or
likely
because
of
the
challenge
of
meeting
housing
or
utility
costs.
I
welcome
the
opportunity
to
work
with
City
Council
to
address
this
ever-increasing
challenge.
C
D
Good
morning,
councilman
countin
burg,
councilman
Green
and
members
of
the
committee
on
Aging
and
members
of
City
Council,
I'm,
Katherine,
Califano,
first
deputy
director
of
the
Department
of
Planning
and
Development.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
on
resolution.
One
seven
zero.
Three,
seven:
five,
like
many
philadelphians
senior
citizens,
face
housing
challenges.
Some
need
help
repairing
their
homes,
as
others
become
less
Noah
bottle.
They
also
need
assistance
in
making
their
homes
more
accessible.
Simply
others
have
a
need
for
an
affordable
place
to
live
meeting.
These
needs
can
be
difficult
for
many
seniors.
D
In
Philadelphia,
half
of
senior
households
of
eight
have
an
income
of
less
than
$25,000
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
mostly
through
the
division
of
housing.
Community
development
tries
to
help
address
these
needs.
Traditionally,
DHCD
uses
Community,
Development
Block
Grant
funds
to
support
the
basic
systems
repair
program.
The
SRP
is
implemented
by
P
HDC
and
works
with
small
private
contractors.
The
program
makes
repairs
to
heating
plumbing
electric
and
roofing
systems
of
owner-occupied
homes.
With
the
help
of
City
Council.
We
were
thankfully
able
to
expand
this
program
and
are
able
to
address
the
seven-year
backlog.
D
The
SRP
targets,
households
with
incomes
at
a
hundred
and
fifty
percent
of
poverty
or
less
for
a
one-person
household.
That's
an
income
of
about
$18,000.
In
fiscal
year
2017
fifty
percent
of
homeowners
were
senior
citizens.
A
thousand
forty
properties
were
received,
be
SRP
grants
in
fiscal
year,
17
alone.
In
addition
to
our
federal
funding,
state
funding
helps
PhD
C
and
its
contractors
reduce
housing
costs
through
energy
efficiency
improvements,
the
program
targets,
households
at
200%
of
poverty
or
less
or
incomes
about
$24,000.
D
D
Additionally,
the
city's
Housing
Trust
Fund
supports
adaptive
mod,
which
makes
accessible
improvements
to
homes
for
low-income
people
with
permanent
disability
in
2017
about
70
percent
or
a
hundred
households
were
senior
citizens.
You
may
have
seen
the
recent
report
of
seniors
being
helped
through
the
program.
We're
happy
to
report
that,
due
to
the
bond
financing
that
support
of
the
basic
systems
repair
and
the
adaptive
mod
program,
we
no
longer
have
a
waiting
list
for
adaptive
mod
and
we
are
taking
new
applications
to
help
them
meet
to
help
the
housing
needs
of
seniors.
D
The
city
also
uses
federal
and
local
funds
to
support
new
housing
and
rehabilitation
of
existing
homes.
Over
the
past
five
years,
city
supported
developments,
have
added
six
hundred
new,
affordable
units
for
seniors
for
housing
and
more
than
200,
affordable
homes
have
been
rehabilitated.
The
city's
investment
of
about
21
million
into
these
units
leveraged
about
135
million
and
other
funding
sources.
Another
100,
affordable
units
for
seniors
are
now
under
construction.
The
development
provide
affordable
housing
in
seniors
in
the
neighborhoods
across
the
city,
including
Logan
port
richmond,
winfield
center
city
marion.
D
The
city
also
uses
CDBG
funds
for
housing
counseling
to
help
keep
seniors,
keep
their
homes.
Earlier
this
year,
the
city
included
reverse
mortgage
financing
prevention,
information
on
fire
sent
to
every
water
department,
customer
in
FY
17.
Nearly
two
thousand
senior
households
received
housing,
counseling
services
from
DHCD
funded
agency,
FY
17.
The
total
is
about,
twelve
thousand
households
were
served.
D
Cdbg
funds
also
support
our
knacks.
Our
neighborhood
advisory
committees,
knacks
work
to
ensure
neighborhood
residents,
including
seniors,
are
available
are
aware
of
available
program.
Each
knack
partners
with
block
captain's,
Philadelphia
Corporation
for
aging
to
host
annual
health
and
welfare
events
for
seniors
these
events
and
ongoing
discussions
in
their
communities
help
to
promote
existing,
promote
programs
to
senior
citizens.
D
B
You
mr.
chair
this
action
question
for
most
for
both
miss
Califano
and
Miss
Hernandez
relays
curious
in
reference
to
first
I
think
you
said
there
are
no
way
there's
no
waiting
list
for
adaptive
modification
right
now.
Okay,
glad
to
hear
that,
but
I
have
a
real
concern
in
reference
to
the
historical
reviews
community
valve
black
grain
dollars
for
different
programs
and
also
other
funding
to
the
consolidated
plan
which,
based
on
this
proposed
budget
by
federal
administration,
would
be
significantly
cut
if
not
eliminated.
B
D
B
I
guess
one
of
the
things
I'm
curious
about
all:
have
there
been
other
ideas
or
more
creative
initiatives
in
order
to
leverage
additional
senior
housing?
For
example,
I
know
this
end
of
this
week,
there'll
be
a
very
significant
event
in
councilman
Parker's
district
for
the
lily
apartments,
which
was
a
mix
of
senior
housing
and
also
office
base
for
West
Health.
Are
there
other
ideas
like
that,
where
we're
looking
at
alternate
ways
to
bring
in
dollars
to
create
senior
housing,
I
think.
D
We
are
looking
at
ways
to
use
redevelopment
activity
and
city
assets
as
opportunity
to
allow
for
mix
development
sites
we've.
The
Redevelopment
Authority
has
issued
some
RFPs
when
we
were
issuing
for
land
that
encourage
people
coming
in
with
a
social
investment.
As
part
of
the
strategy,
there
was
an
RFP
issued
for
the
library
at
sixth
and
jord.
It
was
not
successful,
but
we're
exploring
new
ways
to
look
when
we
can
take
a
public
asset
and
have
it
be
returned
better
than
it
was
with
a
mixture
of
housing.
D
On-Site
we've
also
been
working
through
committees
that
Liske
has
formed
to
help
us
try
to
preserve
expiring
tax
credit
projects
because
that's
a
significant
supply
of
affordable
units.
We
estimate
that
there's
about
10,000,
low-income
housing,
tax
credits
that
may
expire
over
the
next
10
years
and.
B
Are
you
providing
going
back
to
my
Center
in
the
park
days?
I
know
we're
already
working
on
that
project
with
one
of
our
future
panels
coming
up
about
an
expiring
tax
credit
for
maple
village
and
trying
to
maintain
that
in
senior
housing?
Are
you
providing
assistance
to
any
of
the
organizations
that
are
involved
in
senior
housing
around
the
city?
B
Because
my
concern
is
that
for
some
of
these
organizations
they
may
not
have
the
resources
or
the
connections
to
figure
out
how
to
mean
leverage
and
do
because
for
many
of
these
tax
payer
projects,
the
nonprofit
developer
has
right
of
first
refusal
to
maintain
a
project,
but
if
they
don't
have
the
resources,
they
may
not
even
know
what.
That
means.
Correct.
D
And
so
we
think
that
there's
four
different
types
of
strategies
that
we
have
to
when
we
go
get
national
models.
We
were
there's
regulations,
there's
financial
incentives,
there's
technical
assistance
and
there's
the
information
that
needs
to
be
accessible
and
usable
and
strategies
have
to
move
it
all
of
those
areas
to
ensure
projects
are
preserved.
B
And
you
keep
like
a
running
I,
guess
timeline
of
those
projects
that
expire
because
I
think
that's
something
that
would
be
good
to
reach
out
for
the
District
Council
members
to
know
that.
Okay,
next
year,
two
years,
this
senior
housing
project
that
you
may
have
worked
on
or
your
predecessor
may
have
worked
on
five
10
15
years
ago,
and
now
that's
going
to
expire
here
are
some
assets
and
some
resources,
and
you
can
work
with
a
nonprofit
partner
to
maintain
that
it's
senior
housing.
D
We
have
that
same
concern,
and,
yes,
what
we've
done
is
we've
been
compiling
information
on
tax
credits
on
project-based
section
8
on
HUD
202,
which
are
so
for
the
looking
at
the
broader
universe
of
subsidized
units
and
when
they
are
set
to
sunset
and
think
about
strategies
on
how
we
prioritize
and
encourage
those
operators.
Today
to
re-enroll
and.
B
That
would
be
good
of
you
to
provide
to
the
chair
and
also
to
all
the
district
council
members
I.
Think
that's
something
that
it
takes
time
to
prepare
and
for
people
to
have
the
empower
with
information.
Then
they
can
reach
out
to
you
resources
they
may
have.
You
may
help
those
nonprofit
developers.
They
were
partners
in
the
initial
project
to
put
together
the
resource
they
may
need
to
maintain.
That
project
is
senior
housing.
Mr.
B
Fernandez
relays
I'm
curious
in
reference
to
what
you
may
have
heard
from
other
cities
and
what
they're
dealing
with
senior
housing
I
know.
In
the
resolution
we
talked
about
senior
villages,
core
communities,
I
know
in
raw
horse.
Bronner
is
working
to
his
Federation.
They
have
the
naturally
naturally
occurring.
B
C
One
that
has
come
up,
especially
in
the
East,
Village
and
other
places
where
there
are
properties
with
large
properties
with
several
rooms,
is
the
what
is
called
the
golden
concept,
meaning
that
several
unrelated
seniors
living
together.
The
barrier
at
Philadelphia
is
that
the
housing
code
does
not
permit
more
than
three
unrelated
persons
to
live
under
the
same
roof.
So
that's
been
a
challenge
that
has
been
brought
to
me.
C
As
the
challenge
of
aging
comes
up,
and
that's
that's
one
of
the
concepts
that
has
come
up
and
that
is
to
allow
seniors
in
some
properties
it's
just
a
collaborative
almost
going
back
to
the
60s,
co-ops
and
and
creating
that
in
that
community
environment
to
help
people
remain
in
the
community
that
they've
lived
in
for
most
of
their
lives.
Just.
A
A
point
of
information
on
what
you
had
just
raised
and
in
this
comes
from
Believe,
It
or
Not
on
our
international
aspect.
As
far
as
sister
cities,
when
Frankfurt
our
newest
sister
city
from
Germany,
sent
a
delegation
over
one
of
the
people,
was
a
senior
who
now
has
time
retired
executive
but
lives
in
a
very
same
type
program
which
in
Frankfurt
Germany
has
been
going
on
for
a
number
of
years.
So
I
think
we
should
now
that
it's
been
mentioned.
I
should
ask
him
and
how's
it
going,
and
you
know
what
it.
C
C
C
Alright,
so
any
work,
our
sony
code
also
provides
for
accessory
dwelling
units,
which
would
be
the
opportunity
for
a
senior
to
carve
off
a
part
of
their
home
as
a
separate
unit
that
they
would
then
rent
and
allow
someone
to
to
use
that
space.
They
don't
need
their
entire
house.
They
may
choose
to
have
part
of
it.
We
have
not
in
Philadelphia,
resolved
how
that's
going
to
work.
It
is
in
the
code.
Oh.
E
A
C
I
think
we
need
to
review
the
the
code
in
terms
of
allowing
unrelated
persons
living
under
the
same
roof.
Now
the
ordinance
itself
is
really
focused
on
the
issue
of
students
and
university
residents,
not
having
you
know
a
lot
of
young
people,
but
at
the
same
time
there
is
a
need
in
Philadelphia,
because
we
do
have
areas
of
the
city
like
many
area
like
East
Falls,
that
have
huge
homes
where
people
don't.
F
C
Related
to
it-
and
in
fact
there
is
a
very
there-
is
this
burgeoning
village
movement
in
the
northwest.
Also,
we
actually
have
East
Falls,
Northwest,
village,
pence,
village
and
the
north
west
north
and
there
at
the
meeting
last
Monday,
several
other
communities
in
the
Northeast
South
Philadelphia
have
expressed
an
interest
in
building
villages
which
I
think
is
important.
Both
physical
sense
and
also
the
relationship
sense,
so
seniors
are
not
isolated.
That
is
an
important
part
of
who
we
are
as
Philadelphia.
If
we
take
care
of
each
other-
and
we
have
many
programs
to
do
that.
C
B
Reference
to
the
making
a
change
in
zoning
and
I
also
would
like
to
figure
out
what
some
both
planning
in
reference
to
the,
how
we
maintain
that
type
of
change,
because
if
you
take
a
building
and
make
into
multiple
units
with
the
goal
of
allowing
that
for
seniors,
what
happens,
it
was
not
in
force
and
I
can
see
from
a
near
neighbor
perspective.
Yes,
we
supported
this
and
we
did
a
provides
in
those
type
of
things,
to
have
this
property
converted
from
a
single
found,
a
multi-family
for
expressive
or
seniors.
C
B
B
C
Other
the
other
creative
housing
issue
that
I
think
is
also
a
challenge
in
Philadelphia.
Is
grandparents
caring
for
grandchildren
to
address
that
ever
burgeoning
issue
of
housing
for
those
kinds
of
units,
so
a
grandparent
needs
to
care
for
a
child,
but
they
live
in
a
senior
unit
that
doesn't
allow
younger
children
there's,
really
they
either
go
into
the
private
sector
or
there
are
some
projects
and
Philadelphia
one
that
I
know
of
that
is
trying
to
address
that
demand
and
would
probably
be
the
first
one
in
Philadelphia,
which
is
the
Association
port
or
hey.
B
C
Has
a
senior
housing
unit
that
also
will
have
units
dedicated
to
grandparents,
raising
grandchildren,
I
haven't
heard
of
anything
else
in
any
other
part
of
the
city,
but
it
is
something
that
at
times
as
I
reviewed,
our
information
and
referral
request
is
an
issue
that
has
come
up
several
times.
I
won't
say
it's
an
overwhelming
issue,
but
it
does
come
up
I
just.
B
Put
my
last
question:
you
know
considering
the
our
population
getting
more
and
more
seasoned.
As
my
dad
would
say,
this
is
going
to
be
a
large
and
larger
issue
and
consider
that
we
may
have
even
less
community
about
black
grand
dollars
going
forward.
I
mean
what
was
some
things
that
both
of
you
would
suggest
that
we
are
sitting
in
to
do
in
addition
to
the
program's
we
already
have
and
some
of
the
things
you've
talked
about.
I.
D
Think
new
ways
to
find
financing.
We
are
different
concepts
that
have
been
proposed
around
generating
new
funding
to
support
the
production.
Are
there
ways
to
contain
cost
and
are
there
ways
to
get
other
partnerships
involved
so
that
people
have
a
longer-term
view
and
that
has
attracted
other
private
sector
dollars?
So
New,
York
and
Chicago
have
set
up
acquisition
funds
that
major
banks
have
joined
with
and
that's
increased
the
dollars
for
the
production
of
affordable
housing
units
and.
D
B
B
G
You
a
chairman,
talbin,
burger
and
Thank
You,
councilman
Greene,
for
your
leadership
on
a
raising
this
issue
and
for
also
mentioning
the
success
that
we
are
about
to
be
able
to
celebrate
and
Logan
with
West.
You
know
huge
special
things:
a
shout
out
to
Dennis
cook,
along
with
former
state,
senator
Shirley
kitchen
and
Councilwoman
Mary
Ann
Tasco,
because
they
definitely
wear
the
flag
bearers,
are
making
sure
that
the
project
was
a
seen
through
completion
and
we
may
have
a
lot
of
care.
G
But
for
me
a
kia
leti
and
we
just
recently
toured
there
and
you
know
Millennials-
would
would
like
to
get
a
I
go
over
there.
That's
how
nice
it
is.
I
saw
that
oh,
yes,
cat,
councilman,
Dom
you
would
you
could
figure
out
how
to
parse
those
out.
If
you
went,
we
and
I
encourage
everyone
to
take
a
tour,
litigator
I'm
happy
to
read
in
your
testimony.
C
For
some
of
the
cases
that
we
dealt
with,
for
example,
in
row,
homes
where
there's
been
a
fire
or
one
of
the
homes
in
the
row
has
fallen
into
such
disrepair,
things
like
front
walls
that
are
peeling
off
the
the
townhouse
or
the
row
house.
A
lot
of
roofing
questions.
How
do
I
get
some
assistance
to
fix
my
roof
for
many
seniors?
C
For
some
it's
it's
really
a
question
of
the
the
heating
system
or
the
cooling
system
that
has
fallen
into
disrepair.
Some
of
their
equipment
is
twenty.
Thirty
years
old,
not
efficient,
higher
cost.
Those
those
are
real
challenges
for
seniors,
they're
kind
of
caught.
You
know,
do
I,
invest
you
know
the
thousands
of
dollars
to
fix
the
system
or
do
I
just
band-aid
it
until
I'm
no
longer
here,
whatever
takes
me
out
of
this
property.
C
Another
challenge
that
a
lot
of
seniors
have
is
making
their
house
function
for
them.
In
the
state
that
they're
in
so
questions
about
putting
bathrooms
on
the
first
floor,
questions
about
access
row,
homes
are
not
particularly
friendly
for
folks
who
have
access
challenges
so
creating
opportunities
for
folks
and
referring
them
to
services
and
opportunities
to
fix
that
so
that
they
have
an
easier
way
in
and
out
of
their
home.
You
know
some
seniors
are
so
isolated
that
they
may
spend
weeks
without
any
contact
with
folks
outside
of
a
small
circle
of
caregivers
or
friends,
etc.
G
Appreciate
your
response
to
that,
particularly
from
an
affordability
perspective
when
you're
a
senior
you
know
you're
in
the
twilight
years,
is
what
I
like
to
often
refer
to
them
as
and
you
have
a
fixed
income
right,
so
everything
is
is
parsed
out
and
when
you
mentioned
the
issue
of
kinship
care,
one
I
know
well
because
I'm
a
product
of
kinship
care
counsel
been
table
burger.
Mr.
G
chairman,
they
just
didn't
have
the
sexy
name
in
1972,
when
I
was
born
with
my
grandmother
and
grandfather
decided
to
take
care
of
me,
they
just
were
taking
care
of
their
granddaughters,
so
I'm
definitely
interested
in
in
figuring
out
how
we
can
support
seniors
who
find
themselves.
You
know,
3040
years
after
they've
already
raised,
children
back
and
they've
got
toddlers
and
children
who
are
Ellen
elementary
school.
Now,
in
addition
to
that,
I
want
you
to
flip
your
hat
and
I.
Want
you
to
go
back
to
the
Rendell
administration
in
Harrisburg
I.
G
Don't
think
you
all
get
enough
credit
for
shepherding
in
this
concept
of
aging-in-place
and
it
was
revolutionary
thinking,
Estelle
Richman,
along
with
you
Lidia,
when
people
were
saying
that
we
needed
to
focus
on
nursing,
home,
nursing,
home,
nursing
home,
and
we
were
saying
no,
we
can
be
more
efficient
if
we
provided
access
and
in-home
care
the
home-based
care.
It's
also
economic
development
engine,
because
we
created
jobs
for
home,
based
health
care
workers.
Tell
me
what
that
looks
like
now
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia.
G
C
C
C
And
when
you
talk
about
kinship
care,
I
was
blessed
with
having
my
mother
in
my
home
for
the
last
three
years
of
her
life,
and
it
was
so
important
for
her
to
have
supports
around
her
to
make
sure
that
the
quality
of
life
was
the
best
it
could
be
given
whatever
was
going
on
with
her
health-wise
and
thankfully
it
was
a
very
short
period
of
time
when
she
needed
really
intensive
care.
We
were
able
to
provide
it
in
the
home,
so
she
didn't
have
to
go
to
an
environment.
C
She
didn't
know,
and
and
and
that's
also,
an
issue
with
people
with
limited
English
proficiency.
Their
ability
to
express
that
to
to
promote
that
is
a
challenge
and
I
personally
am
very,
very
invested
in
because
I
think
one
of
the
realities
of
Philadelphia
is
a
diversity
of
the
languages
being
spoken
by
our
seniors
and,
as
many
seniors
begin
to
develop
cognitive
challenge,
they
may
have
worked
for
30
years
and
managed
English
perfectly,
but
then
they
get
to
a
point
where
their
home
language
is
their
best
way
to
communicate
the
most
accurate
way
to
communicate.
G
You
for
your
testimony,
and
finally,
mr.
chairman,
let
me
say
to
mr.
Califano,
you
know:
we've
heard
our
council
president
and
many
others
have
echoed
that
the
most
affordable
housing
is
the
existing
housing
stock
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
and
if
you
will
I
want
us
to
you
know
everyone
is
thinking
about
sort
of
this
revolutionary
aspect
of
rebuild
right:
the
rebuilding
of
infrastructure
in
parks,
rec
centers
and
libraries
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
but
I
want
you.
G
D
The
basic
systems
repair
program
has
proven
extremely
effective
over
time
and
allowing
very
low
income
households
to
stay
in
their
homes.
It's
also
been
instrumental
in
preserving
housing
stock
for
the
next
generations,
because
people
may
choose
to
live
on
the
first
floor
and
not
be
aware
of
those
structural
issues.
The
cost
then
to
repair
for
the
next
low-income
household
who
may
buy
that
house
once
that
moves
on
is
a
cost
of
the
city
we
bear
so
expanding
basic
systems.
G
That
was
the
last
one,
but
this
really
is
struggling
when
she
mentioned
the
parks
or
banking.
So
you
remember
that
old
hat
and
what
you're
doing
now
and
the
issue
of
reverse
mortgages.
It's
mentioned
an
issue
that
we
raised
because
we
saw
a
lot
of
foreclosures
taking
place,
particularly
in
districts
like
the
ninth,
where
we
have
a
high
rate
of
home
ownership.
What
is
that
like
I
mean
Kathy?
You
can
comment
from
your
side
because,
obviously
we
work
from
a
budgetary
perspective
to
address
it,
but
Lydia
in
your
role,
have
you
seen
it?
We.
C
We
haven't
seen
that
much
of
it
in
the
information
referral
area,
but
as
I
go
around
yeah
I
hear
that
from
folks
and
I
also
hear
it
from
administrators
of
programs.
That's
saying
yeah
these
folks
came
in
with
this
issue,
who
do
I
go
to
so,
of
course
referring
them
to
the
Banking
Department,
referring
them
to
other
agencies.
C
D
You
know
I
think
just
the
Department
of
Housing
has
tried
to
expand
and
adapt
as
we
hear
from
our
housing
counseling
agency,
and
it
is,
it
was
a
growing
problem.
Hud
did
make
some
changes
that
we
think
we're
positive,
but
we've
been
doing
an
ongoing
project
with
the
reinvestment
fund
to
study
the
issue
and
to
look
at
whether
there
are
any
discriminatory,
fair
housing
violation,
practices
around
who's
being
targeted
and
where
they're
being
targeted
and
what
what
are
the
strategies
we
should
deploy
if
those
things
are
occurring.
G
A
Welcome
and
counseling
partner.
Thank
you
for
your
line
of
questioning
and
just
a
comment
when
it
comes
to
a
grand
children
being
raised
by
grandparents.
Whatever
your
initiative
is
I'd
like
to
help
you
and
work
with
that,
I
think
you
have
raised
a
very
important
factor
here
that
that
many
times
is
overlooked
and
I.
Think
these
these
folks
need
a
lot
of
support
and
the
support,
and
maybe
it's
okay.
A
H
Thank
you,
chairman
Tom,
burger
and
Thank
You,
vice
chairman
council
and
green,
for
bringing
this
to
our
attention.
I
have
a
question
for
the
panel
in
your
testimony
think
miss
Bella.
Is
you
mentioned
that
38.3%
of
the
homes
are
owned?
Free
and
clear?
33.4%
are
owned
with
a
mortgage
and
26.5
rent,
which
means
home
ownership.
Seventy
three
point:
five,
which
is
really
strong.
This
is
citywide,
it's
fifty
two
and
there's
only
three
cities
at
the
top
25
in
the
country
that
are
over
fifty,
so
we're
doing
pretty
well
in
that
category.
H
C
Are
a
very,
very
high
home
owner
occupied
City
as
I've
gone
through
and
worked
with
different
programs
and
met
with
colleagues
across
the
nation
in
some
parts
of
the
city?
It's
even
higher
than
that,
because
this
is
a
town
with
that
ethic.
You
know
it's
better
to
own
than
to
rent
and
for
many
seniors
that
puts
them
in
a
really
tough
place
where
the
housing
costs
both
for
their
ability
to
maintain
the
property
and
the
associated
property,
tax
costs,
etc.
It's
a
high
percentage
of
their
income,
and
that
is
a
challenge.
The.
H
Other
I
have
a
couple
other
questions:
I
didn't
realize
it
until
I
got
here
today
that
I'm
in
the
senior
category.
Well,
you
say
that
over
the
age
of
55,
really
yeah
I
mean
this.
Let
me
just
this
is
not
just
to
pull
off
your
problem.
This
is
a
national
problem
that
we
need
to
I.
Think
change
our
thinking
about
age.
Let's
go
back
in
time
to
1900
the
average
age
was
47
every
year
from
1900
to
1950,
the
age
grew
mortality
5
months
and
2000.
H
The
age
was
75
and
in
2017
great
for
women
they
lived
for
84
average
and
men
little
81,
but
we
really
haven't
changed
our
guidelines
and
what's
gonna
happen
is
all
economies.
All
governments
are
structured
based
on
all
systems
and
they
can't
afford
to
handle
the
the
new
retirement
have
specially
asked,
Vice
Chair
green,
put
in
his
resolution.
H
Those
the
New
York
Times,
said
that
initial
population,
age,
65
and
over
is
gonna,
grow
48
million,
it's
a
79
million
in
the
next
20
years,
so
I'm
gonna,
say
we
have
two
very
productive
council
members
here
that
are
over
55,
and
so
my
question
is:
why
are
we
not
as
a
country
raising
the
bar
on
retirement
medicine
is
unbelievable
today,
people
living
way
longer
than
they
live
10
or
20
years
ago,
and
yet
the
retirement
ages
should
be
raised
dramatically
just
from
a
statistical
standpoint.
Well,.
C
H
H
It
my
question
is:
we
have
people
that
are
55,
60,
65
and
70
almost
are
way
more
productive
than
their
parents
were
at
those
ages,
most
have
more
knowledge,
most
could
be
tremendous
mentors
most
can
be
utilized
in
our
economy
in
Philadelphia
and
I
think
rapid
wien.
It
would
be
great
for
this
also
to
figure
out
how
do
we
utilize
their
skills
as
when
people
rest
they
Russell
well,.
C
I
think
just
to
address
that
that
issue,
in
terms
of
who
we
see
in
our
job
development
area,
which
we
saw
over
I,
think
over
1200
people
came
to
our
offices
looking
for
jobs
and
we
only
serve
folks
who
are
over
55,
and
so
that's
they
want
to
remain
in
the
workforce.
They
want
to
remain
in
active.
You
know,
roles
in
different
contexts.
Yes,
we
are
we're
living
along
they're
living
healthier
in
the
long
term
because
of
the
advances
in
medicine
and
advances
and
wellness.
C
H
Mean
I
think
part
of
the
problem
is
that
our
grandparents
worked
until
they
died.
Let's
be
realistic,
that's
what
they
did
yeah.
We
expect
to
retire
and
expect
the
society
to
help
us
in
that
retirement,
and
so
that's,
okay,
I,
don't
have
any
plans
by
the
way
for
the
record
to
have
a
retire.
Okay,
but
I
would
say
this
I
think
that
the
bar
has
to
be
raised.
This
we're
living
so
much
longer,
and
this
government's
can't
afford
to
support
that
whole
system
just
can't
happen.
It's
not
gonna
happen.
H
Last
comment,
I'm
sitting
here,
thinking
about
the
population
and
their
housing
stock
in
Philadelphia
and
most
our
housing
stock
I'm
just
gonna
be
general.
Generic
is
living
room/dining
room/kitchen
in
that
order.
Two
or
three
bedrooms
on
the
second
floor,
so
most
seniors
have
to
climb
steps.
I
would
say
to
builders
who
are
thinking
about
building
if
they
could
maybe
change
that
housing
stock
for
future
homes
that
put
living
room
first
and
then
kitchen
and
then
dining
room
with
a
dining
room.
H
That's
convertible
to
a
first-floor
bedroom
seniors
could
stay
in
their
homes
or
in
their
reverse
and
those
townhomes
that
we
could
come
up
with
a
fix
that
we
flipped
the
kitchen
from
the
back
to
the
middle
room,
where,
as
a
dining
room
and
make
the
kitchen
a
master
suite,
because
when
you're,
75
or
80
you're,
probably
not
entertaining
a
ton
of
people
in
need
a
dining
room.
But
this
way
they
can
stay
in
their
home
and
the
cost
would
be
dramatically
lower.
D
D
B
You
councilman
green,
very
brief.
Since
councilman
down
brought
the
the
point
of
age
we
remiss
and
just
reflect
on
yesterday,
my
father
turned
85.
Yesterday,
it's
amazing
considering
that
he's
almost
youngest
of
the
brothers
he
has
my
Uncle
Jesse
is
turned
90
about
a
month
ago
and
then
the
middle
brother,
at
my
uncle
at
attorney,
while
be
turning
88
in
December
11
before
me,
but
I
really
wanted
to
touch
base
on
a
common
Lydia.
You
may,
regarding
our
high
rate
of
home
ownership
from
my
reflection.
B
When
I
worked
in
the
law
department
and
I
used
to
represent
office
of
housing
community
development,
we
had,
we
had
an
even
higher
rate
of
homeownership.
Do
we
have
any
numbers
and
data
that
show
for
seniors
the
loss
of
housing,
because
it
seems
like
what
the
growth
of
the
population
and
a
lot
of
singers
have.
You
know
retired
homes
but
they've
been
awesome,
losing
their
homes
to
foreclosures
account
of
the
park
about
reverse
mortgages?
B
B
C
I
think
this
is
very
accurate
for
some
of
the
folks
that
I've
had
contact
with
who
have
in
fact
said
living
in
the
burbs
and
having
to
depend
on
the
car
is
not
the
kind
of
life
I
want.
I
want
to
be
in
an
urban
setting
and
I
want
to
be
able
to
walk
to
the
doctor,
walk
to
the
cafe,
walk
to
the
theater,
walk
to
entertainment,.
A
A
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
Councilman
Tom
on
your
point,
a
little
bit
of
history,
how
the
federal
government's
have
you
know
things
have
to
change
or
must
change,
but
that's
not
a
discussion
for
this
committee,
but
many
people
are
not
probably
are
not
aware
that
the
that
the
Social
Security
system
was
actually
based
on
the
German
system,
which
was
put
in
place
by
Otto
von
Bismarck,
one
of
the
things
he
did
and
probably
lost
the
history.
But
our
system
is
based
on
that
and
he
did
that
in
the
1880s.
A
But
for
your
information
he
went
to
his
ministers
because
this
was
all
a
new
concept
and
he
said
I
want
to
know
when
the
average
German
dies
and
the
answer
was
59
years
old.
So
he
said
very
good.
It's
very
good!
So
we'll
start
our
program
at
62,
hoping
that
many,
you
know
do
not
make
it.
But
you
know
things
have
changed.
It's
the
smart
businessman,
yeah
it's
1880s,
so
it
is.
A
It
is
all
very,
very
interesting
and
and
I
think
we
have
to
learn
from
things
that
are
going
well
and
things
that
are
not
going
well.
So,
but
once
again,
that
greater
concept
is
not
our
point.
I
do
have
a
question,
a
couple
questions.
Actually
a
forum
is
Hernandes
valise
and
and
it's
something
that
I
know
a
bit
about
because
I'm
blessed
that
my
parents
told
me
another
language.
A
You
write
that
or
you
said
in
your
notes
at
70
point
seven
point:
six
percent
of
households
are
lunges
and
linguistically
isolated
in
a
city
as
diverse
as
Philadelphia
I'm
a
little
concerned
on
how
that
can
happen
and
who
what
languages
are
those
because
I
can
see
that
happening
and
I
and
I've
known
friends
of
my
parents
who,
if
they
didn't,
have
someone
that
spoke
German
Iran,
it
could
be
difficult.
How
can
that
happen
here?
And
how
can
we
address
it
because
I
think
it's
a
simple
answer:
if
we
could
do
it.
C
H
C
D
C
C
I
A
One
of
the
great
things
of
Philadelphia
is
very
much
its
diversity
and
there
have
to
be
people
in
in
in
all
age
groups
that
know
most
every
language,
I
wouldn't
say
everyone,
but
almost
all
I
was
known
to
ban
right
here
in
the
city,
so
having
them,
connect
with
the
right
people
and
not
have
that
isolation.
I
think
it
is
important.
Remember.
C
C
It's
difficult
to
recreate
it
in
another
environment,
although
there
are
many
many
efforts
to
do
that
through
CMAC
and
other
community-based
organizations
congresso.
You
know
there
are
a
lot
of
community-based
organizations
that
are
reaching
out
to
folks
and
trying
to
make
sure
that
no
one
is
left
isolated.
If.
A
C
A
All
right
I'll
be
happy
to
help
or
if
you
think
the
legislation
comes
to
the
answer.
I
do
have
another
question
for
either
you
or
Miss
Califano,
and
that
would
be
as
follows:
does
the
city
or
does
your
office
have
a
position
on
reverse
mortgage
mortgages
for
seniors
pro
or
con,
or
no
no
comment
at
all
I.
D
Think
that
you
do,
it
is
a
very
challenging
financial
instrument
and
where
it
became
problematic
is
sometimes
a
member
of
the
household
was
just
signing
the
mortgage,
but
not
keeping
the
other
family,
putting
the
other
family
members
on
the
deeds.
So
the
husband
and
the
wife
had
no
access
to
that
property
could
be
evicted
by
the
bank.
D
So
there
were
things
that
HUD
has
done
to
change
the
requirement
you
do
have
to
participate
in
housing
counseling,
but
that
housing
counseling
does
not
have
to
be
a
HUD
certified
housing
counseling.
So
a
lot
of
lenders
had
a
more
of
a
Performa,
so
I
think
that
the
housing
counseling
agencies
have
tried
to
step
up
and
through
our
legal
service
agencies,
to
help
seniors
who
have
gotten
into
that
complex
financial
product
to
try
and
assess
whether
it
is
the
right
product
and
who
it's
appropriate
for.
Could.
D
A
H
You
mr.
chair
I
just
want
to
make
a
comment
on
reverse
mortgages.
Coming
from
a
real
estate
background,
I'd
say
it's
a
last
resort
and
we
should
try
to
make
sure
that
everyone
who's
taking
one
understands
what
they're
getting
into
because
99.9
percent
of
the
time.
They
are
a
nightmare,
reverse
mortgage
a
nightmare
and
we
should
not
be
encouraging
them.
There's
a
last
resort
last
resort.
By
far,
usually
the
interest
rate
is
higher
and
usually
the
borrower.
H
G
You
thank
you,
mr.
chairman
and
I
just
sort
of
point
of
information
for
the
record.
You
know
we
held
a
hearing
and,
like
we've
been
since
we
arrived
in
this
body,
I
had
a
laser-like
focus
on
it,
so
councilman
Dom,
just
from
a
professional,
real
estate
perspective,
I
appreciate
you
noting,
for
the
record.
You
know
the
potential
misuse
and
the
dangers
of
the
price
of
the
product.
G
In
addition
to
that,
while
I
know
we
may
not
have
to
study
in
front
of
us,
I
think
your
question,
councilman
Topham
burger
was
a
very
much
appropriate
because
in
Philadelphia,
we've
seen
reverse
mortgages
targeted
to
our
neighborhoods
to
have
some
of
the
higher
rates
of
home
ownership.
Ie
councilman
Greene
was
saying
yes,
middle
neighborhoods,
so
those
middle
neighborhoods,
not
where
people
are
rich,
where
they're
usually
making
like
a
nickel
or
a
dollar
over
the
income
guidelines
where
they
are
councilman
Dom.
G
You
know
how
I
feel
about
this:
paying
their
property
taxes,
even
if
they're
making
payment
agreements,
but
they
are
targeting
of
this
product
in
those
particular
community.
So
thank
you.
Councilman
of
for
raising
our
awareness
ordered
and
Councilman
Chavan
burger
thank
or
you
know,
acknowledging
that
we
have
to
pay
attention
to
this
product
in
our
city,
because,
usually
what
happens
is
the
children
or
others
who
live
in
the
household,
with
the
seniors
who
are
accustomed
to
taking
care
of
themselves
and
not
having
a
child
involved
in
their
affairs?
They've?
G
Usually
gotten
a
product
councilman
down
thinking?
Well,
you
know,
I've
taken
a
financial
burden
off
of
my
shoulders
and
that
of
my
children
without
thinking
exactly
about
what
you
described,
which
is
the
endgame
that
usually
ends
of
wealth
being
taken
from
the
family.
So
thank
you
so
very
much
for
noting
that,
for
the
record,
mr.
H
Don't
go
I
just
want
to
make
one
more
statement
on
the
house
and
councilman
Parker's
comments.
It's
clear,
the
United
States,
the
number
one
wealth
generator
is
owning
your
own
home,
and
so
these
reverse
mortgages
take
that
wealth
from
families
that
want
to
pass
that
on
generationally.
When
that's
the
danger.
Thank
you.
A
And
actually
for
if
I
could
also
make
an
additional
comment
for
a
lot
of
reasons
most
because
of
our
federal
tax
code.
I
think
America
has
one
of
the
highest
percentage
of
homeownership
anywhere
in
the
world
and
I
think
that's
something
to
be
applauded,
it's
much
higher
than
in
Europe
and
other
places.
So
we
oh
yeah,
well,
because
you
don't
get
a
tax
deferment
in
your
opinion,
so.
A
F
Good
morning,
I
went
to
thank
councilman,
Tappan,
burger
and
Councilman
green
and
the
remainder
of
members
of
City
Council
for
holding
these
hearings
and
for
inviting
me
to
testify
today
regarding
resolution,
one
seven
zero,
three,
seven
five,
my
name
is
Dina
Schlossberg
and
I.
Am
the
deputy
director
and
senior
attorney
for
multifamily
housing?
It
reads
my
housing
legal
services,
so
I
think
it
might
be.
The
lawyer
of
the
we
think
as
well.
F
Regional
housing
provides
the
full
range
of
legal
services
for
free
icon,
acquisition,
financing,
leasing,
organizational
issues
and
nonprofit,
helping
with
partnerships
and
in
general,
providing
technical
assistance
to
nonprofits
who
are
engaged
in
the
development
or
the
preservation
of
affordable
housing.
Regional
housing
is
also
active
and
numerous
policy
and
programmatic
initiatives
here
in
Philadelphia
and
statewide
we're
a
statewide
program
and
our
principal
office
is
located
in
Glenside
Pennsylvania.
We
also
have
a
small
office
in
Philadelphia
and
it's
housed
at
community
legal
services.
F
We
work
closely
with
other
public
interests
and
nonprofit
organizations
to
address
systemic
problems
that
affect
the
housing
needs
of
low-income
philadelphians.
So
we
work
with
the
Philadelphia
Association
of
Community
Development
Corporation's
PA
CDC,
the
Housing
Alliance
and
our
fellow
nonprofit
legal
aid
organizations,
community
legal
services
and
Philadelphia
legal
assistance.
For
over
40
years,
regional
housing
has
been
representing
nonprofit
organizations
involved
in
the
development
and
preservation
of
affordable
housing.
So
we
have
a
like
a
wide
depth
of
knowledge
and
a
wide
history
of
knowledge
and
I.
F
Think
that,
because
also
our
program
is
statewide,
our
staff
is
recognized
nationally
for
its
commitment
to
excellence
and
for
its
deep
knowledge
of
affordable
housing
programs
and
policies
and
I'd
be
happy
to
talk
about
some
of
the
things
that
we're
seeing
in
other
parts
of
the
state
as
well
as
nationally.
If
you're
interested
my
focus
this
morning
really
wanted
to
talk
about
there.
As
you
can
see
the
breath
and
not
a
need
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia
is
vast
and
there
is
a
strong
component
that
is
about
preserving,
affordable
housing
for
homeowners.
F
My
focus
this
morning
really
is
on
the
need
for
the
preservation
and
the
increase
of
rental
housing
and
I'll
explain
why
we
serve
nonprofit
organizations
that
have
mission
to
serve
the
lowest
income
of
elderly
Philadelphians.
The
need
for
safe
and
secure,
affordable
housing
for
low-income
Philadelphia's
is
great,
but
particularly
acute
for
the
very
lowest
income
seniors.
Pennsylvania
has
the
fourth
fourth
highest
concentration
of
seniors
of
any
state
in
the
nation
and
Philadelphia
is
home
to
the
largest
population
of
seniors
among
any
of
the
major
US
cities.
F
Hoody
tours
report
prepared
by
the
Pew
Charitable
Trusts,
almost
500
80,000,
seen
there's
age,
65
and
above
live
in
the
Philadelphia
region
and
of
these
about
a
hundred.
Ninety
three
thousand
live
in
the
Philadelphia
City,
but
one-third
of
the
nation's
seniors
are
low-income
and
live
at
below
200%
of
the
federal
poverty
level,
meaning
they
are
living
on
an
annual
income
of
no
more
than
22,000
in
Philadelphia.
F
This
numbers
even
more
dire
with
about
33,000
senior
citizens,
individuals
living
at
or
below
100%
of
the
federal
poverty
level
or
existing
on
a
mere
eleven
thousand
dollars
per
year.
That's
less
than
a
thousand
dollars
a
month
to
cover
all
of
your
that
the
monthly
needs
of
food,
housing,
transportation
and
other
fundamentals
of
sustaining
needs
among
the
Philadelphia
elderly.
This
is
really
where
a
lot
of
my
office
has.
Its
focus
is
on
deep
poverty,
meaning
a
single
person
living
and
no
more
than
5,700
dollars
per
year.
F
This
number
of
adult
seniors
living
in
deep
poverty
has
increased
dramatically
across
the
country
actually
and
four
numbers
that
people
are
really
beginning
to
look
at,
including
what's
happened
to
what
people's
capacity
to
get
some
kind
of
retirement
through
the
workforce.
According
to
research
conducted
by
the
Philadelphia
Corporation
for
aging,
as
of
2013
Philadelphia,
had
approximately
14,500
seniors
living
in
deep
poverty.
The
need
for
affordable
housing
is
unnatural
as
national
phenomena,
and
it
is
growing,
as
reported
in
the
HUD
worst
case.
Housing
needs
2017
report
to
Congress.
F
Only
sixty
six,
affordable
housing
units
exist
for
every
100,
extremely
low-income
renters,
because
some
of
these
units
are
occupied
by
persons
with
higher
incomes
nationally,
only
38
affordable
units
are
available
for
occupancy
for
every
100,
extremely
low
income
renters.
In
the
same
worst
case,
housing
needs
2017
report
to
Congress
indicated
the
only
one-half
of
these
units
are
actually
physically
adequate
for
occupancy,
meaning
that
some
of
the
others
while
available
are
certainly
not
quality
and
not
up
to
housing
code.
F
During
2015
nationally,
1.85
million
elderly
renters
had
worst-case
housing
needs,
meaning
they
are
very
low
income
renters
who
did
not
receive
government
assistance
and
who
paid
more
than
one
half
of
their
income
for
rent.
This
is
an
increase
of
over
three
hundred
eighty
two
thousand
elderly
individual,
since
last
reported
in
2013
there's
a
myth
that
low-income
seniors
are
adequately
supported
by
subsidized
housing.
Yet
low-income
seniors
often
fail
to
secure
the
assistance
that
they
may
need
and
there
simply
isn't
enough
of
it.
F
A
Harvard
study
found
in
2011
teen,
the
3.9
million
households,
62
and
older,
had
very
low
incomes
at
or
below
50%
of
the
area
median,
but
only
only
36%
benefited
from
assistance.
The
same
worst-case
housing
needs
report
from
HUD
indicated
that
42%
of
the
Philadelphia
metros,
very
low-income
renters,
making
less
than
50%
of
the
area's
medium
income
qualify
as
worst-case
housing
needs
here
in
Philadelphia.
The
housing
needs,
especially
for
seniors,
is
compromised
by
the
immense
growth
of
interest
in
rental,
housing
for
middle
and
upper
upper
income.
Renters.
F
According
to
a
report
issued
this
year
by
the
Federal
Reserve,
the
need
for
affordable
housing
was
made
more
severe
severe
by
the
loss
of
affordable
units
and
I.
Think
that's
is
something
that
the
city
has
to
look
at
dramatically.
Overall
Philadelphia
lost
a
total
of
over
23,000
low-cost
rental
units,
meaning
rina
units
that
would
naturally
rent
for
$750
a
month
or
less
per
month.
F
The
number
of
affordable
rental
units
available
now
for
every
100
lower-income
rental
households
fell
from
82
to
68
between
2005
and
2014
in
Philadelphia,
the
lowest
income
renters
they're,
just
33,
affordable
and
available
units
per
100
renter
households.
In
2014,
there's
a
dire
need
to
increase
and
preserve
the
supply
of
affordable
housing
and
to
better
serve
the
housing
needs
of
Philadelphia's,
low-income
and
extremely
low-income
senior
population
we
represent
I'll
just
say:
anecdotally:
I
represent
Prez
business
buyer
life
in
new
Cortland
elder
services
center
in
the
park
when
Winfield
Overbrook
revitalization
corporation.
F
J
Good
morning
my
name
is
Bob:
the
Allonby
government
affairs
manager
for
new
Cortland
Senior
Services,
a
nonprofit
provider
of
affordable
housing,
health
care
and
supportive
services
for
seniors
in
Philadelphia
on
behalf
of
Pam
Emmer
I
left
vice
president
of
government
affairs
for
new
Cortland
I
would
like
to
thank
members
of
this
committee,
particularly
councilman
green,
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
testimony
on
this
topic,
which
is
critical
through
the
health
and
welfare
of
seniors
of
the
city,
as
evidenced
by
this
hearing.
The
need
for
high
quality,
affordable
senior
housing
is
tremendous
and
growing.
J
The
growth
of
the
65
plus
population,
as
well
as
increased
housing
costs,
has
combined
to
stretch
affordable
senior
housing
waiting
lists
in
the
city.
Today,
a
senior
can
wait
on
the
list
for
years
before
it's
their
turn.
To
move
in
this
perpetual
limbo
can
make
life
for
seniors
living
on
a
fixed,
humming,
fixed
income
precarious.
In
addition,
seniors
living
in
homes
that
are
unsuitable
for
their
unique
needs
are
a
greater
risk
of
preventable
and
costly
institutionalization
and
skilled
nursing
facilities.
J
To
combat
this
issue,
new
Cortland
has
laid
out
a
bold
plan
to
develop
2,000,
affordable
senior
housing
units
in
Philadelphia
in
15
years.
We
also,
we
have
also
created
a
preference
on
our
waiting
list
for
seniors
that
are
eligible
for
the
nursing
home
transition
program
or
in
need
of
supportive
services
which
helps
prevent
unnecessary
nursing
home
placements.
J
Through
this
initiative,
we
will
match
our
clients
needs
by
enabling
them
to
eat
in
place
with
dignity
at
support,
while
also
saving
Pennsylvania
millions
at
Sylvania
millions
of
tax
dollars
as
long-term
community
based
care
promoted
by
this
housing
plan,
cost
about
half
of
the
institutional
care
provided
in
skilled
nursing
facilities
by
planning
to
invest
in
excess
of
500
million
in
the
community.
Through
this
15
year
plan,
120
million
of
our
own
money,
new
Courtland
plans
to
significantly
increase
the
city's
total,
affordable
senior
housing
stock.
J
K
As
you
may
know,
PCA
is
the
state
designed
Area
Agency
on
Aging
responsible
for
coordinating
and
administering
federal
state
and
local
funds
for
older
Philadelphians
PCA
provides
a
wide
range
of
services
to
the
city's
elderly,
from
funding
senior
centers,
alleviating
older,
adult
abuse,
ensuring
nutritious
congregate
and
homebound
meals,
and
we
provide
much
needed
housing,
repairs,
modifications
and
other
services.
Last
fiscal
year,
PCA
provided
housing
services
to
over
1160
consumers
more
than
any
other
city
program.
Additionally,
request
for
housing
information
to
our
PC,
a
helpline
accounts
for
the
highest
volume
of
calls
we
receive
every
year.
K
Although
our
funding
is
limited,
pcs
Housing
Department
provides
a
variety
of
home
repairs
and
modifications
to
help
make
older
Philadelphians
homes
safer,
more
secure
and
more
accessible
through
the
senior
housing
assistance,
repair
program
or
sharp
minor
home
repairs
and
modifications
are
provided
to
low-income,
Philadelphia
homeowners,
aged
60
and
older,
depending
on
income.
Sharp
services
may
be
offered
at
no
charge
or
on
a
cost,
sharing
sliding
scale,
often
minor
repairs
to
doors
and
stairs,
as
well
as
adaptations
such
as
tub
seats
and
grab
bars,
provide
much
needed.
K
Assistance
to
the
consumers
that
we
serve
housing
is
one
of
the
key
pillars
necessary
to
foster
neighborhood
stabilization
and
enable
seniors
to
successfully
age
in
place.
Seniors
who
do
not
have
safe
and
accessible
housing
are
at
significantly
greater
risk
of
Falls
and
other
health
concerns,
which
can
lead
to
costly,
hospitalizations,
institutionalization
and
frequent
ER
visits
in
addition
to
costly
housing
challenges,
older
Philadelphians
also
struggle
with
poverty.
Philadelphia
has
the
highest
poverty
rate
among
the
nation's
10
largest
cities.
Forty-Two
percent
of
those
65
and
older
are
living
at
200%
of
the
poverty
level.
K
Additionally,
almost
five
percent
of
women
and
four
percent
of
men
in
Philadelphia
over
65
are
living
in
deep
poverty,
preventing
many
senior
homeowners
from
being
able
to
maintain
their
homes
due
to
costly
repairs.
Pca
has
a
forty
plus
year
history
in
providing
crucial
housing
services.
We
think
it
is
important
to
provide
the
following
facts
of
today's
hearing
in
the
next
10
years.
We
expect
to
see
a
significant
increase
in
the
number
of
older
adults
ages,
60
to
70,
for
especially
among
minority
elderly.
K
Many
of
these
folks
are
going
to
need
assistance
with
maintaining
their
homes
and
getting
needed
repairs
that
are
crucial
to
keeping
them
in
their
home.
Seventy
percent
of
older
Philadelphians,
who
own
their
own
their
own
home,
twenty
five
percent
rent
and
the
rest,
are
in
various
types
of
alternative
housing.
The
majority
of
older
philadelphians
would
like
to
remain
in
their
current
home
for
ten
years
or
more
many,
because
they
see
no
alternative
short
choice
and
second,
they
are
very
attached
to
their
neighborhoods.
K
Given
the
increasing
needs
of
Philadelphia's
most
vulnerable
population
PCA
is
seeking
your
assistance
and
meeting
these
housing
challenges
with
limited
funding
options,
several
years
of
flat
funding
and
a
long
waiting
list
for
those
consumers,
we
served
through
our
Sharpe
program.
The
demand
for
housing
service
is
ever-growing.
K
We
encourage
all
city
management
organizations
and
nonprofits
throughout
the
city
that
provide
housing
services
to
work
together,
collaboratively
to
address
these
needs
and
to
develop
and
seek
out
more
alternatives,
so
Philadelphia
seniors
aren't
forced
into
nursing
homes
or
simply
settle
for
what's
available,
but
be
provided
with
choices
that
can
help
them
thrive
in
their
communities
with
dignity
and
affordability.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
You
mr.
chair
and
thank
all
of
you
for
your
testimony
this
morning,
first
I
want
to
reflect
on
both
testimony
of
mr.
losberne,
as
well
as
mr.
Meyers,
and
the
fact
that
the
Commonwealth
of
Pennsylvania,
the
fourth
largest
senior
population
in
the
nation
and
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
is
the
largest
of
all
major
cities
with
that
size
of
senior
population.
I.
Think
it's
something
very
important
that
many
people
I,
don't
think
realize
so
I'm
curious
in
reference
to
mr.
Osterberg.
B
F
You
for
your
question,
the
yes,
the
need
for
senior
housing
is
pretty
rapid
and
it's
pretty
extreme
throughout
the
state
of
Pennsylvania,
but
because
of
the
population
density
in
Philadelphia
and
obviously
the
long
history
of
home
ownership
and
people
then
needing
to
and
the
and
the
deep
poverty
that
need
is
pretty
severe
here.
But
we
are
seeing
and
I
think
New
Portland
does.
F
Some
of
it
is
part
of
the
model
that
new
Portland
uses,
which
is
to
have
the
senior
housing,
be
co-located
with
other
services,
and
the
purpose
of
that
is
to
allow
seniors
to
age
in
place
without
needing
you
know,
so
that
they
that
they
get
some
of
the
other
proper
needs.
The
daily
needs
met.
So,
for
instance,
I
would
encourage
members
of
this
committee
to
look
at
the
North
Penn
common
project
that
some
Lansdale
Pennsylvania
and
in.
F
Called
North
Penn
Commons
and
it's
the
developer
was
advanced
living,
wizard,
Lance
advanced
living
community
services,
which
is
a
nonprofit.
That's
long,
standing,
senior
provider,
senior
housing
in
Montgomery
County,
and,
in
that
case,
that
project
North
Penn
Commons,
is
a
collaboration.
The
collocation
of
senior
center
food
security
program
called
manna
on
Main,
Street
and
advance
living
and
the
whole
building
ties
into
the
YMCA.
So
it
was
a
way
to
also
kind
of
bolster
the
the
attendance
and
the
kind
of
the
community
access
to
the
YMCA.
F
It
provides
a
feeding
program
so
that
the
the
manna
on
Main
Street,
which
was
intended
to
feed
low-income
people,
our
people
who
needed
access
to
food
and
the
community
also
allows
the
members
who
live
in
that
building
to
go
down
and
get
food
on
a
daily
basis
and
because
there's
also
a
doctor's
office.
Now
on
the
first
floor,
so
we're
seeing
more
and
more
of
an
attempt
to
try
to
collaborate.
F
It's
particularly
in
Oregon,
particularly
in
communities
where
funding
sources
you
know,
granted
Foundation
funding
may
be
funding
three
or
four
or
five
ancillary
organizations
and
trying
to
break
kind
of
bring
them
together.
In
some
aspects
so
that
there's
an
economy
of
scale,
that's
serving
the
seniors,
while
you're
also
serving
the
organizations
that
serve
the
seniors.
So
in
that
particular
project
at
North,
Penn
Commons
it.
What
the
idea
was
brought
together
by
the
North
Penn
Foundation,
which
now
I
think
has
a
new
name,
but
that
and
that
was
able
to
get
bring
in
other
foundation.
F
F
So
there's
a
third
model
that
we're
representing
on
granny
cottages.
Well
now
this
doesn't
really
work
in
places
like
the
city,
but
it
does
work
in
more
rural
environments,
where
you
would
literally
have
a
cottage
on
your
property
where
your
mother
or
grandmother
would
live.
It's
about
400,
500
square
feet
owned
by
the
center
corporation
on
Aging
in
that
particular
jurisdictions,
and
they
it's
sort
of
a
three-way
contract
between
the
Department
of
Aging,
the
family
and
the
grandmother
mother.
F
Whoever
lives
in
the
building,
where
there's
some
support
given
by
the
family
members,
some
support
given
by
the
corporation
on
Aging.
So
that's
a
different
model
that
probably
won't
work
in
Philadelphia,
but
it's
somewhat
akin
to
the
model
of
shared
housing
that
you
know
what
other
people
were
discussing.
I
could
go
on
there.
We're
also
seeing
kinship
here
there
is
mission.
F
B
Is
all
very
interesting
ideas
and,
as
you
were
talking
about
co-locating,
multiple
services
actually
talked
about
the
North
Penn
project,
and
is
there
an
ability
to
do
a
combination
of
senior
housing
and
retail
in
a
sense
of?
Could
you
and
I?
Am
it
escaped
me
a
little
bit,
but
can
you
do
a
project
for
long
I'm
having
tax
credits
for
the
housing
for
seniors,
combining
that
with
new
market
tax
credits
for
retails
and
ever
commercial
use.
J
We
are
actually
doing
that.
One
of
our
developments
in
Northwest
Philadelphia
3232
Henry
Avenue,
is
to
former
epi
site
the
eastern
Pennsylvania
Psychiatric
Institute,
oh
yeah.
Where
should
we
bought
that
around
two
and
a
half
years
ago?
Yeah?
That's
on
Henry
Avenue,
every
habit,
32:32
Henry
right
across
from
adverse
for
home,
so
we're
doing
that
project
and
you
guys
are
working
with
us.
So
what
actually?
J
A
part
of
that
is
gonna,
be
retail,
so
we're
gonna,
have
senior
housing,
senior
health
care
through
a
life
center
and
there's
really
two
around
six
thousand
square
foot
of
retail.
There's
a
lot
of
retail
going
in
at
that
area.
So
we're
trying
to
make
it
focus
more
towards
medical,
maybe
a
dialysis
center
or
urgent
care,
so
we're
kind
of
going
that
route.
But
that's
something
we
do.
We
use
new
market
tax
credits
we
applied
for
our
cap,
applied
for
DHCD
money
as
well,
so
we
kind
of
mix
all
those
funding
sources
together.
B
It
because,
when
you
were
talking
when
Dina
you
were
talking
earlier
made
me
think
of
how
do
you
find
a
way
of
okay?
We
need
housing,
but
we
also
need
some
way
to
help
subsidize.
Sometimes
we
may
need
some
gap-filling
beyond
the
local
mountain
tax
credits
right,
but
then
a
community
mainly
some
type
of
commercial
use
right.
J
B
J
This
OB
2,000
is
our
goal
right
now
we
have
around
300
with
around
142
kind
of
in
construction
right
now.
So
that's
the
long
term
goal
we're
doing
that
through
separate
campuses.
We
have
Allegheny,
has
around
100
right
and
Germantown
has
around
over
200
around
200,
but
then
we're
also
starting
to
do
the
scattered
site.
F
J
J
So
our
goal
is
that,
right
now
we
obtain
there
over
40.
Our
goal
is
to
do
around
200
of
them
in
that
area,
because
it's
such
a
huge
deed
and
the
way
it
works
out
financially.
It
helps
us
as
a
way
cheaper
for
us
to
buy
these
little
houses
for
seventy.
Eighty
thousand
throw
forty
thousand
into
it.
That's
compared
to
build
like
a
st.
Barts
or
the
EPI
site,
you're,
looking
at
almost
three
hundred
thousand
per
unit
they're
trying
to
get
something
like
that
gallery.
So.
J
B
J
Is
we're
just
doing
this
now
in
Northeast
Philly,
so
we're
trying
to
keep
it
by
that
Life
Center?
So
the
people
who
live
in
those
units,
the
scattered
site,
will
be
able
to
utilize.
The
Life
Center,
which
is
our
medical
model
for
all-inclusive
care,
so
they'll
be
able
to
go
there
and
back
and
forth
and
be
able
to
use
that
Sara
and.
B
J
Now
the
model
is
based
around
these
single-story
600
square
foot
houses.
So
if
there
was
if
there
was
other
places
like
that
around
that
I'm
sure
our
leadership
team
would
kind
of
look
at
that
as
well,
so
around
the
North
Philly
around
our
Allegheny
campus
you've
been
there
there's
not
too
many
of
those
kind
of
sites
around
there.
So
it's
kind
of
harder
we
want
to
keep
with
the
single-story,
so
it's
easy
for
them
to
kind
of
age
in
place
and
be
safe
at
the
same
time,
and
so.
B
Have
you
been
not
having
conversation
with
the
district
council
members
as
you
grow
your
network
when
you're
talking
I
mean
to
thousands
a
lot
of
units?
Yes,
so
are
you
talking
to
the
district
council,
persons
and
letting
them
know
about
okay?
These
are
the
areas
that
we're
looking
to
develop
a
Breast
Care
sites
and
also
they
may
have
a
knowledge
of
locations
or
parcels
in
their
districts.
That
may
be
amenable
to
both
the
Life
Center,
as
well
as
the
kind
of
sites
around.
J
Yes,
sir,
it's
one
of
the
first
things
we
do
as
soon
as
we
get
in
there
is
the
kind
of
the
councilman
Heenan
was
part
of
our
lid
and
field
property
that
we
bought
so
were
working
with
him.
Councilman
Sanchez
is
the
st.
barts
different
person,
so
yeah,
so
we're
mean
that's
the
first
thing
we
do
and
we
hear
that
a
lot
from
a
lot
of
our
council
people
come
in
what
about
this
property?
J
B
And
then
five
mr.
marks
I
know
the
PCA
is
kind
of
unique
compared
to
other
entities
around
the
Commonwealth,
where
the
dollars
come
from
the
state
to
the
county
offers
assistance
as
opposed
to
a
non-profit,
PCA.
So
I,
my
question
is:
what
are
some
of
the
trend
is
seeing
at
the
state
level
representing
for
our
seniors.
I
know
we're
currently
waiting
I
won't
say
with
bated
breath
because
may
not
make
it
for
a
state
budget.
But
what
are
some
of
the
things
you're
seeing
revans
the
funding?
K
Currently
we
serve,
and
this
speaks
a
little
bit
to
Councilwoman
Parker's
statements
earlier
we
serve
about
over
10,000
people
in
our
waiver
program
and
what
that
waiver
program
is
is
the
Department
of
Aging
nursing,
home
diversion
dollars
that
go
to
support
those
consumers
that
are
nursing
home
local
lights
likes
and
we
use
those
dollars.
They
have
provide
supportive
services
to
them
in
their
homes.
K
The
long-term
care
aspect
of
that
gets
a
little
bit
out
of
my
purview.
That's
actually
one
of
the
long-term
care
programs
at
PCA
in
the
housing
department,
but
it
had
been
a
PCA
for
about
27
years,
I've
been
in
seven
different
positions
there,
so
I
do
know
a
little
bit
of
the
lay
of
the
land
there
after
devoting
most
of
my
career
to
aging
services.
So
these
housing
needs
are
certainly
very
important
to
me.
So.
B
Outside
and
I
actually
have
resolution
for
hearings
on
the
managed
long-term
care
transitions
which
we'll
see
I,
know
the
southwest
region,
I
think
the
first
region.
Then
it's
going
to
move
across
the
Commonwealth
the
outside,
just
to
the
difference
in
how
funding
is
provided.
Do
you
see
any
other
changes?
I
know
there's
been
discussion,
the
reference
to
lottery
system
off
and
on
over
the
years,
but
do
you
have
you
seen
any
other
information
you
may
hear
from
within
PCA
for
what
may
be
happening
at
the
state
level
regarding
funding
for
a
senior
housing?
No.
K
I
haven't
seen
that
yet
the
dollars
that
we
use
for
the
sharp
program
or
the
aging
Block
Grant
funds
that
come
through
the
triple-a
to
us
and
we've
been
setting
aside
some
of
those
dollars,
so
I
think
the
last
four
years
approximately
to
provide
the
short
program
and
to
provide
those
minor
repairs
and
adaptations
that
we
do
in
in
consumers,
homes,
homes,
I
have
been
seeing
a
growing
need
for
those.
Our
waiting
list
right
now
stands
about
450.
K
Folks
and
generally
it
takes
from
point
of
entry
to
service
approximately
a
year
for
a
consumer
to
get
those
housing
services
for
the
waiver
program.
The
consumers
I
mentioned
earlier.
We
do
work
for
those
consumers
as
well.
We
can
put
in
stair
glides
wheelchair
lifts.
We
can
do
half
bathrooms.
On
the
first
floor,
we
can
modify
the
home
in
order
to
serve
the
needs
of
those
consumers.
K
A
A
A
They
speak
a
language
known
as
well
as
English,
but
mullaly's,
and
so
we
have
a
very
vibrant
group
here
in
Philadelphia
in
the
fellow
free
region,
and
it's
something
we
talked
about
earlier
about
the
diversity
of
this
city,
and
here
we
have
councilman
Kennedy
Peter.
Actually
here
at
this
moment,
councilman
Tom,
please
Thank.
H
You,
chairman
Toby,
Berger
and
good
morning
still
good
morning
here,
two
questions
one
is:
have
we
looked
at,
you
know,
I
mean
you
mentioned
this
with
the
housing
you're
doing
in
Northeast
Philadelphia.
Have
we
looked
at
the
option
of
converting
existing
row
homes?
There
are
two
stories
and
flipping
the
kitchen
to
the
dining
room
and
putting
them
a
bedroom
where
the
kitchen
is
as
an
adaptive,
reuse
of
the
space
and
not
having
people
climb.
H
The
steps
was
it
most
of
my
experience
with
seniors,
including
my
own
family,
is
most
of
the
issues
occur
when
they
fall
and
once
they
fall,
including
my
mother.
Recently,
it's
a
tremendous
downhill
situation,
so
we
can
eliminate
those
steps
they
stay
in
their
house.
The
adaptive
reuse
can't
be
expensive,
push
below
you
can
get
to
plumbing
below.
You
have
a
crawl
space
or
our
basement
and
just
flipping
it,
and
then
they
don't
really
need
a
dining
room
at
that
age.
You
just
walk.
You
could
have
like
a
great
room.
K
You
know
we
we
had
depending
on
the
consumer
situation.
It
depends
on
where
we
end
up
making
the
modification,
so
we
have
on.
If
the
consumer
is
confined
to
the
second
floor,
we've
been
able
to
make
modifications
up
there.
If
they're
confined
to
the
first
floor,
we
can
do
those
type
of
adaptations,
so
we
could
put
a
bathroom.
In
the
first
floor,
we
can
move
the
kitchen
around.
We've
moved
kitchens
from
the
back
of
the
house
to
the
middle
of
the
house
to
the
dining
room
area.
K
One
of
the
big
problems
that
we
encounter
is
the
washer
and
dryer
they're.
All
the
basements
and
seniors
can't
get
into
the
basement
often
times
and
we've
looked
at
ways
of
moving
that
around.
We
recently
came
across
a
case
where
a
consumer
didn't
have
basements
there.
She
had
a
ladder
and
she
was
going
up
and
down
the
stairs
to
do
her
wash
on
the
via
a
ladder.
So
we
were
able
to
get
in
there
right
away
and
address
that.
You.
H
Do
have
those
combo
units
now
that
are
under
the
counter
they
wash
and
dry
the
lg's
they're
very
efficient.
Yes,
so
I
here's
one
thought
we
have
35
or
38
percent
of
these
homes
with
no
mortgage.
Maybe
we
made
a
relationship
with
a
bank
that
would
lend
them
the
15
or
20
thousand
to
convert.
They
could
stay
in
their
home
and
be
a
much
less
expensive
option
than
other
alternatives.
They
have
just
a
thought
for
you
to
think
about.
Second
question:
I
guess
is
from
mr.
schlossberg
I
wanna,
make
sure
I
understand
the
numbers.
H
We
have
a
city
of
a
million
five
hundred,
sixty
thousand
people
and
in
your
testimony,
is
193,000
that
are
seniors.
I,
guess
and
that's
over
the
age
of
65
and
of
the
earth
represents
twelve
point
three
percent
of
our
population
of
those
seniors
one-third
or
low-income.
If
I'm
reading
your
testimony
correctly.
F
F
H
H
H
So
it's
about
sixty
four
thousand,
roughly
is
a
third.
So
this
is
my
question.
Our
overall
population,
twenty
six
percent
are
in
poverty.
Seniors
are
thirty
three
percent,
so
the
Delta
is
seven
points,
so
we
need
to
deal
with
this,
but
the
underlying
problem
of
overall
poverty
is
probably
where
the
real
cure
has
to
occur,
because
that
we
can
lower
that
dramatically.
We're
gonna
lower
this
overall
senior
problem
also
because
it
doesn't
like
most
people,
probably
are
in
poverty
before,
and
then
it
become
a
senior
they're
still
in
poverty.
H
F
Think
I
understand
what
you're
saying
some
of
that
can
be
addressed.
Of
course,
with
an
economic
gain
for
the
members
you
know
fall
into
that
Delta,
increasingly,
those
those
who
fall
into
poverty
is
to
become
older,
all
right,
they're,
the
result
of
a
loss
of
income
and
they're,
not
gonna,
get
another
job
or
physical,
disability
or
emot--.
You
know,
or
mental
health
issues,
so
I
might
so
much
for
and
not
giving
and
kind
of
the
loss
of
kind
of.
Like
you
know,
safety
net
of
Social
Security
that's
greater
than
but.
H
F
G
You,
mr.
chairman,
and
let
me
thank
each
of
you
for
being
here,
have
to
give
up
just
a
huge
special
thanks
to
highly
marking
Gail.
You
know,
I've
been
wearing
you
all
out
for
so
long,
but
sweet
Harrisburg
in
here,
and
you
know
you
are
sort
of
our
first
line
of
defense
on
the
ground
because
we
call
you
not
with
anything
just
for
our
constituents,
but
when
you
are
serving
as
a
caregiver,
I
was
for
my
grandfather
in
2005
and
you
know,
I
remember:
I
was
just
elected
and
I.
G
Remember
a
friend
telling
me
I
know
of
a
wonderful
place
that
would
take
very
good
care
of
your
grandfather
charelle,
because
if
you're
gonna
be
commuting
back
and
forth,
harrisburg,
there's
no
way
you're
going
to
be
able
to
take
care
of
daddy
at
home.
And
you
know
my
grandmother
was
from
North
Carolina
and
I
South,
Carolina,
actually
and
I
said
to
my
friend.
G
The
same
with
that
being
said,
I
want
to
you
to
sort
of
shift
and
and
and
tell
me
what
you
think
about
this
this
week,
we're
in
the
Northeast
in
my
district,
where
Jarnell
recreation
center
Monty
is
there
with
us
from
CLS
we're
talking
about
deeds,
estate,
home
ownership,
reverse
mortgages
and
all
of
a
sudden.
This
issue
comes
up.
Child
tries
to
get
parent
to
give
power
of
attorney
and
ownership
of
the
house
over
to
the
child.
G
How
housing
counseling
agency
assist
with
this
process,
but
they
detect
something
is
occurring
in
the
midst
of
this
relationship,
and
so
they
wait
until
the
child
leaves
the
room
and
they
see
the
the
fear
and
the
parents
face
that.
This
is
not
something
that
the
parent
really
wants
to
do.
It's
almost
as
if
the
parent
is
being
forced
to
sign
over
ownership
and/or
power,
it
was.
It
was
very
unnerving
to
to
hear
this,
but
I
know
it
happens
more
frequently
than
we
probably
give
attention
to
and
and
Monty
from
CLS.
G
As
usual
said
well,
I
want
everybody
to
look
at
Councilwoman
Parker
and
tell
her
that
we
used
to
have
a
program
called
a
rep
payee
program.
We're
seniors
who
receive
Social,
Security
I
know
they
do
this
for
veterans
had
an
entity
that
was
responsible
for
taking.
You
know
care
of
that
kind
of
business,
and
so
with
that
being
said,
I
said
well
wait
I
needed
to
ask
you
is
that's
something
that
we
see
a
challenge
with.
Do
you
in
a
PCA
have
a
staff
that
does
that
and
what
is
that
demand
like?
K
Yes,
I'm
a
little
I
am
a
little
familiar
with
it.
The
majority
of
times
when
we
get
calls
to
our
housing
department
related
to
this
type
of
situation
will
refer
over
to
our
senior
health
line.
The
senior
help
lines
have
quipped
to
kind
of
filter
out
those
issues,
and
we
sometimes
these
types
of
issues
get
referred
to
our
older
adult
protective
services
unit,
or
we
refer
to
organizations
like
CLS
and
communal
eagle
services
and
other
legal
staff
that
can
help
with
that.
K
G
It's
well
listen,
I,
just
for
my
colleagues
and
counsel,
montalban
Berger
and
green
and
Dawn
were
here.
I
will
just
state
for
the
record.
I
just
heard
this
on
Saturday.
It
was
not
something
that
I
thought
was
happening
as
frequent
as
as
it
does,
and
with
that
being
said,
maybe
mr.
chairman
councilman
green,
because
you
raised
this
issue
and
Councilman
Tom.
This
is
something
we
should
visit
because
it
made
me
think
of
how
many
seniors,
particularly
when
we
hear
Lidia
talk
about
those
who
have
a
language
barrier
right.
G
C
G
Us
this
case
study
and
said
that
the
housing
counseling
agency
felt
it,
and
so
they
waited
for
they
tried
to
like
outweigh
the
child.
That,
like
have
to
go
to
the
bathroom.
She
said
they
she
could
feel
it,
and
they
look
that
she
said.
You
know
what
I
left
my
notary
stamp
back
at
the
office
to
sort
of
buy
some
time
it
was.
It
was
really
unnerving.
So
maybe
this
is
something
that
we
should
explore.
A
jacket.
B
Yeah,
just
a
thoughtful
I.
Thank
you,
counseling
Parker
I
know
this
is
issue
I,
think
I
recall
when
we
did.
The
hearings
last
fall
regarding
financial
fraud
in
this
committee.
That
issue
came
up
somewhat
of
bullying
from
family
members.
We're
doing
that
also
I
know.
There
is
I
believe
this
contact
through
PCA
the
Ombudsman
program
where
I
know
senator
Park
and
there's
a
bunch
of
other
senior
agencies,
provide
buds,
'men
services
to
seniors
at
nursing
facilities
where
they
may
feel
they're
being
harassed
or
taken
advantage
of
by
the
nursing
facility.
B
However,
maybe
using
that
model
could
be
a
framework
for
broadening
that
for
people
who
are
in
their
own
homes
for
being
bullied,
because
you
have
some
people
that
come
to
nursing
homes
or
de
senior
centers
that
may
need
those
services,
but
they
can't
get
those
services
in
their
house,
but
they
could
get
it
through
a
Senior
Center.
So
taking
the
Ombudsman
type
of
program
that
is
already
providing
health
for
seniors
and
nursing
homes
may
be
having
on
buds
mints
go
to
senior
centers
at
the
resources
because
they
already
do.
B
You
already
have
a
network
and
do
that
nursing
homes,
because
basic
Ombudsman
processes,
listen
at
each
nursing
center,
have
to
provide
information
regarding
a
button
so
that
wasting
its
feel
comfortable.
Talking
to
someone
as
a
third
party
saying,
if
you're
being
challenged
or
bullied
at
their
nursing
room,
here's
some
we
can
talk
to,
but
maybe
broadening
that
since
you
already
have
a
network
to
senior
centers,
so
that
for
those
who
go
to
a
Senior
Center
to
go
out
and
they
have
fun
some
big
trips.
B
But
having
someone
in
that
that
neutral
space
could
have
provide
that
service
at
which
it
outside
of
them,
because
a
lot
of
senior
to
go
to
senior
centers
all
around
the
city
and
that's
someone
that
may
be
comfortable
and
giving
that
information
as
opposed
to
if
they're
in
their
you
know
in
their
home.
They
won't
have
that
same
level.
Comfort.
So
maybe
that's
tonight
the
other
PCA
and
worked
on
buzzing
process
and
maybe
that's
a
way
of
broadening
that,
but
I
think
I,
think
kind
of
a
park.
That's
right!
That's
a
good
conversation
ahead!
That's.
K
G
If
I
may,
mr.
chairman,
it
was
about
to
sharp
but
short
program,
you
know
home
repairs,
modifications
provided
to
low-income
Philadelphia
homeowners.
If
you
had
the
data
now
you
can
answer.
If
not
don't
worry
about
it,
I,
just
wonder
how
many
people
call
to
access
the
short
program,
but
are
not
income
eligible.
K
G
Me,
let
me
also
ask
you:
the
contractors
who
do
to
work
does
PCA
sort
of
have
a
network,
so
thinking
about
contractor
fraud
right,
obviously
you've
been
successful.
Everybody
knows
the
shot
program,
we
know
what
the
demand
is
like
for
your
program.
But
what
do
you
do
with?
How
do
you
get
your
contract
is?
Where
do
they
come
from?
How
do
they
get
on
your
list?
Their.
K
Four
inspectors,
so
we,
but
it's
a
different
type
of
model,
so
we
send
out
a
social
worker.
First
to
look
at
the
house.
Talk
to
consumer
discuss
housing
needs,
then
what
once
the
consumer
says
what
they
want?
The
inspector
goes
out
and
looks
and
to
see
if
we
can
do
it.
Many
of
these
houses
we
work
in
are
over
100
years
old,
and
so,
if
we
change
a
faucet
pipes
break
drains
break,
so
we
have
to
be
very
careful,
but
there
there
my
status.
K
For
the
waiver
program,
we
hire
contractors
for
that
and
we've
got
a
good
handful
of
very
good
contractors
and
one
of
the
what
one
of
the
researchers
at
PCA
was
telling
me
a
few
weeks
ago.
One
of
the
most
requested
services
in
a
recent
survey
he
did
was
having
PCA
talk
about
what
contractors
should
be
vetted
and
saying
you
know,
use
this
contractor
now
that
can
there's
legal
ramifications
around
doing
that,
but
we
have
many
many
people
that
ask
who
could
we
use?
Who
could
we
hire?
You
know
we
can't
really
do
I.
K
D
G
Actually
going
to
do
the
work,
while
also
making
sure
that
we
focus
on
the
recruitment
of
women
and
disabled
business
and
minority
businesses
right,
and
so
we
have
something
that
we're
moving
on
and
Councilman
talbin
burger.
Even
with
that
again
because
of
its
its
impact
on
our
aging
community.
We
will
make
sure
that
that
you
and
members
of
this
committee
are
well
aware
of
it,
we'll
be
coming
to
you
really
soon.
I
just
tried
to
bathe
them
a
little
bit.
K
A
Partner,
thank
you
very
much.
Miss
Burke
I
do
have
one
question
for
you.
If
I
could-
and
that
is
from
your
testimony
on
page
three,
it
was
an
extra
last
paragraph.
The
number
of
affordable
rental
units
available
for
every
one
hundred
income
renter
households
fell
from
82
percent
to
68
percent
between
2005
and
2014.
F
F
Higher
income
higher
income,
so
the
particularly
of
the
twenty
thousand
twenty
to
twenty
three
thousand
units
in
the
city
were
a
number
of
them.
A
high
percentage
of
them
were
in
kind
of
the
you
know,
some
call
escalating:
gentrifying
communities,
Center
City,
West,
Philly
and
like
this
or
the
fish
town
Kensington
area,
but
there
had
been
naturally
I
mean.
There's
you
know,
there's
always
an
acronym
right,
that's
sort
of
like
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing
is
sort
of
like
now.
F
There's
naturally
occurring
retirement
communities
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing,
which
were
units
that
were
at
market
available
to
people
who
were
lower-income
because
sort
of
the
balance
of
Hill
in
Philadelphia
was
that
it
wasn't
that
expensive
to
live
here
is
that
is
the
economy
has
changed
as
we've
had
this
in
migration.
A
lot
of
those
sort
of
wing
communities,
particularly
West
Philly-
that's
not
so
ring,
but
West
Philly
in
parts
around
Center
City
have
dramatically
dramatically
converted
and
you
can
see
it
in
Point
Breeze.
You
can
see
it
in
Fishtown
ecosave
in
Kensington.
F
You
can
see
it
in
parts
of
West
Philly,
so
sometimes
it
was
taking
properties
that
were
in
decay.
Dep,
you
know
not
a
hundred
percent
up
to
code,
but
people
were
living
in
otherwise
and
other
times.
There
are
properties
that
were
vacant
or
people
are
just
out
and
out
and
eat
their
door.
Saying
I'll
buy
your
building,
so
we're
losing
a
lot
of
what
some
of
us
will
call.
Naturally,
a
fort
occurring,
affordable
housing
of
one
to
four
units
that
you
can
buy
them
now
and
tournaments
student
housing.
A
I
So
we
just
want
you
to
definitely
be
here
today
to
thank
you
and
commend
counsel
for
taking
up
this
very
important
issue
of
housing,
especially
for
older
philadelphians
at
livable.
Communities
is
a
very
major
concern
issue
for
AARP
and
is
something
that
we're
monitoring
closely
across
the
country.
So
again,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
provide
testimony
at
today's
hearing,
and
we
speak
today
on
behalf
of
our
1.8
million
members
in
Pennsylvania
and
are
over
800,000
members
in
the
Philadelphia
region.
I
When
AARP
considers
the
issue
of
senior
housing,
we
brought
in
the
topic
to
focus
on
the
concept
of
livable
communities,
recognizing
that
housing
is
the
key
component
for
this
concept.
Aarp
has
established
six
key
principles
of
livable
communities.
They
are
secure,
affordability,
those
are
communities
that
should
provide
transportation,
housing
and
other
services
and
features
that
are
affordable
to
people
of
all
income
levels.
Very
important
for
AARP.
Another
key
component
is
ensuring
equitable
access.
All
people
should
have
access
to
affordable
transportation
and
housing,
as
well
as
a
safe
and
healthy
environment
in
which
to
live.
I
Communities
should
support
the
right
of
individuals
from
all
incomes
and
backgrounds
to
live,
safe
and
healthy
lives.
Achieving
holistic
policymaking.
All
communities
should
recognize
and
act
on
the
intersections
between
livable
communities
and
such
issues,
such
as
health,
wellness,
safety,
work,
education,
environmental
concerns
and
social
engagement
to
enable
residents
across
all
generations
to
live
their
best
lives
and
considering
these
principles
that
I've
just
read
before
you.
The
affordability
of
housing
for
older
citizens
is
a
major
factor
in
Philadelphia
and
in
other
large
cities
across
the
country.
I
In
so
many
instances,
older
citizens
face
a
situation
where
they
become
home
rich,
but
in
relatively
in
their
reality,
their
living
situation
is
in
serious
jeopardy.
Older
homes
often
require
very
expensive
maintenance
and,
of
course,
property
taxes
can
be
a
significant
burden
for
many
on
a
fixed
income,
even
for
those
willing
to
sell
their
homes
and
move
to
smaller
spaces.
The
cost
of
moving
may
be
cost
prohibitive.
Cities
like
Philadelphia,
face
a
dilemma
at
the
same
time
that
housing
stock
is
being
modernized
to
attract
new
residents.
I
The
affordability
of
housing
is
increasing
beyond
the
reach
of
many
longtime
residents
of
this
great
city.
It
requires
a
careful
strategy
to
ensure
that
older
residents
are
not
left
behind
as
Philadelphia
moves
forward.
There
is
no
magic
bullet
solution
to
guarantee
older
citizens
have
a
safe,
affordable
housing
choice.
Aarp
does
believe
that
Housing
Trust
Funds
tax
credits,
bonds
and
addressing
the
property
tax
question
are
all
part
of
the
equation,
but
how
everything
adds
together
is
the
discussion
that
we
must
have
and
is
taking
place
today.
I
Most
importantly,
as
housing
issues
are
discussed
and
debated
in
the
city,
the
work
of
the
committee,
that
is
so
very
important,
we'll
need
to
take
a
look
at
the
concerns
of
older
philadelphians,
and
it
should
be
a
much-needed
integral
part
of
the
conversation.
Aarp
stands
ready
to
work
with
this
committee
and
other
elected
officials
and
interested
organizations
and
citizens
to
make
affordable
senior
housing
available
in
Philadelphia
again.
Thank
you
very
much
for
this
opportunity
to
be
here
today
and
the
opportunity
to
discuss
this
issue.
E
Thank
you
to
the
chair,
councilman,
Calvin,
Berger
and
Councilman
green
for
organizing
this.
This
hearing,
thank
you
to
the
members
of
the
committee
I
building
on
what
we
heard
this
morning
about
today's
seniors
desire
to
Asian
place
and
environments
that
preserve
their
independence
and
and
their
mobility
and
their
connections
to
the
family
and
community.
I
wanted
to
underscore
one
idea
that
we
heard
about
today,
which
is
accessory
dwelling
units.
Oh
yeah,
accessory
dwelling
units
is
an
issue
that
I
wanted
to
kind
of
drill
down
on
a
little
bit
and
boost
the
the
signal.
E
That
allows
aging
people
to
live
with
their
families,
but
have
an
independent
living
space
that
gives
them
some
privacy
as
well
and
and
in
addition
to
what
we
were
talking
about
earlier,
with
the
need
for
more
single-story
homes
without
stairs.
This
is
yet
another
sort
of
option
for
that.
So
before
going
further,
I
want
to
say
this:
isn't
you
know
it's
not
a
silver
bullet
I,
don't
think,
there's
like
any
kind
of
silver
bullets
in
this.
E
This
discussion,
but
I
do
think
it's
a
choice
that
people
should
should
have,
and
it's
specially
interesting
because
it
doesn't
require
an
outlay
of
taxpayer
money,
it's
something
that
we
could
make
with
a
more
more
of
these
happen
with
a
free
policy
change
in
the
zoning
code.
Looking
at
some
of
the
evidence
from
some
other
cities,
particularly
these
have
taken
off
in
the
northwest
of
the
United
States
and
Vancouver.
Vancouver
is
really
probably
the
best
North
American
example
of
these
and
and
then
it's
not.
E
You
know
it's
again,
not
a
silver
bullet
for
affordability
either
they
tend
to
be
more
on
the
moderately
affordable
category
rather
than
like
deeply
affordable
and
I.
Think
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
it
depends
on
how
easy
it
is
to
actually
build
them.
Vancouver's
gone
a
long
way,
probably
further
than
anybody
in
that
direction,
but
they've
been
since
they,
since
the
1980s
they've
built
about
2600
of
these
units.
So
it's
not
an
insignificant
amount.
It's
not
going
to
be
for
everybody,
but
about
a
third
of
single-family
homes
in
Vancouver.
E
I
E
This
you
know:
filly,
we've
got
really
dense
like
downtown
area,
where
it's
not
gonna,
be
you
know,
probably
the
best
fit
there.
Although
I,
like
I'm
in
Fishtown
and
like
I,
have
you
know
I'm
in
like
an
RSA,
5
neighborhood,
and
but
we
have
like
a
pretty
deep
backyard,
like
sometimes
I.
Think,
like
hey
Kai,
you
know
my
dad's
gonna
get
old
at
some
point
like.
Could
we
build
like
a
backyard
thing
for
my
dad?
E
The
city
created
some
some
language
in
the
code
for
ad
use,
but
it
still
says
reserved
in
in
that
spot
it's
in
section,
14,
604,
11
and,
and
so
it
basically
spells
out
the
whole
the
whole
thing,
but
it
doesn't
actually
write
in
any
of
the
zoning
categories
and
in
those
spaces.
So
that's
kind
of
the
work.
E
That's
that's
left
to
be
done
and
I
understand
that
from
having
some
conversations
with
folks
at
planning
about
this,
that
there
may
be
some
additional
legislative
changes
that
would
be
needed
to
make
this
kind
of
take
off,
but
Li
got
a
minimum
like
the
main
thing
that
needs
to
happen
is
I.
Think
it's
RSD
one
two
and
three
we're
the
ones
that
they
initially
intended
to
be
to
be
written
in
there
and
that's
sort
of
what
that's
what
some
councils
played
so
yeah.
That's,
basically,
that's
all
I
have
thank
you.
Everybody
well.
A
Mr.
gating
and
this
rouse,
thank
you
any
questions
from
the
committee.
Is
there
anyone
else
that
would
like
to
testify?
That
is
here
waited
well
I.
Thank
you.
All
very,
very
much
I
want
to
thank
councilman
Greene
for
his
leadership
and
bringing
this
forward
and
Councilwoman
Parker
I
was
exceptionally
helpful
in
testimony,
and
things
going
forward
gave
us
some
ideas
this
morning,
councilman
Dom
I
believe
for
a
previous
meeting
and
appreciate
his
working
on
our
committee
as
well.
A
We're
going
to
recess
at
the
call
of
the
chair,
but
I
do
ask
everyone
to
keep
in
mind
the
prayers
of
those
people
in
Las,
Vegas
that
lost
their
lives
or
lost
family
members
and
are
injured.
This
is
something
that
is
just
terrible
and
as
shaking
me
to
the
core
of
my
humanity,
why
these
things
happen,
but
please
do
that
and
I
think
it
will
recess
at
the
call
of
the
chair
and
everyone
have
a
great
day.
Thank
you.