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Committee on Rules
Chair: Councilmember Bill Greenlee (At Large)
Vice Chair: Councilmember Mark Squilla (1st District)
A
Okay,
if
we
could
get
started,
I
appreciate
everybody's
appearance
here
good
morning.
This
is
the
Rules
Committee.
We
have
attained
a
quorum
with
Councilman
Jones,
Councilwoman,
Sanchez,
councilman,
Heenan,
Councilwoman,
Reynolds
Brown
and
myself
bill
Greenlee
before
we
start
testimony,
there's
three
bills
that
will
not
be
held
today.
A
C
This
bill
proposes
changes
from
RM
1
presidential
multifamily,
RSD
3,
residential
single-family
detached
and
cm
x,
1
and
c
MX,
2
commercial,
mixed
juice,
commercial
to
primarily
RSA
5
residential
single-family
attached.
This
reflects
current
land
use
of
the
neighborhood
and
is
consistent
with
the
south
district
plans.
Priority
zoning
recommendation
a
to
preserve
existing
single-family
zoning
Philadelphia
City
Planning
Commission
consider
bill
number
one:
nine
zero,
seven
one
one
and
it's
meeting
of
October
15th
of
this
year
and
record
did
it
for
approval
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank.
A
You,
sir
and
I,
see
there's
an
amendment.
It's
making
a
change
in
the
map.
Map
changes
correct
slight
change.
Yes,
major
all
right!
Thank
you.
Any
questions
for
mr.
Gorsky
on
this
bill.
Seeing
none
anyone
else
here
to
testify
on
building
one
number,
one:
nine
zero,
seven
one
one
seeing
no
one
miss
Marconi
on
next
bill.
Please.
B
Bill
number
one:
nine:
zero,
six;
zero
one;
an
ordinance
amending
title,
14
of
the
Philadelphia
Code,
entitled
zoning
and
planning
to
revise
certain
provisions
of
chapter
14,
200,
entitled
definitions
and
chapter
14,
600
entitled
use
regulations
by
creating
the
use
category,
smoking,
lounge
and
related
changes
all
under
certain
terms
and
conditions.
Thank.
C
Morning,
Marty
gregor
ski
with
the
Planning
Commission
I'm
here
to
testify
on
ball
number
one:
nine
one,
nine
zero
601,
which
is
introduced
in
the
City
Council
on
June
20th
of
this
year
by
councilmember
Heenan
bill
number
one.
Nine
zero
601
amends
the
Philadelphia
Zoo
zoning
code
by
creating
a
new
zoning
district
entitled
smoking
lounge,
where
the
smoking
of
tobacco
products,
electronic
cigarettes
or
other
substances
is
permitted.
Examples
of
smoking
lounges
would
include,
but
are
not
limited
to
cigar
Lang,
lounges,
hookah,
lounges,
vape,
lounges
tobacco
clubs,
tobacco
bars,
etc.
C
The
creation
of
this
youth
subcategory
for
smoking
lounges
will
help
create
an
appropriate
use
for
businesses
of
this
type
that
currently
have
difficulty
finding
an
appropriate
use
classification.
The
staff
believes
that,
while
this
use
this
use
is
a
special
exception
of
many
zoning
districts,
it
should
be
allowed
by
write
in
more
zoning
districts
than
the
CM
x
4
and
cm
x,
5
center
city,
commercial
mix
juice
districts.
C
So,
while
the
staff
is
supportive
of
this
of
creating
this
use,
we
believe
the
list
of
districts
where
they
are
permitted
should
be
expanded
to
include
areas
outside
of
Center
City
Philadelphia,
City,
Planning
Commission,
consider
bill
number
1,
9,
0
601,
that's
meeting
of
July
20th
of
this
year
and
recommended
it
for
approval
and
I'd,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank.
E
E
Of
this
use,
category
also
makes
the
provisions
of
the
zoning
code
more
closely
aligned
with
the
existing
regulations
of
the
health
department.
The
Department
of
licenses
and
inspections
is
supportive
of
this
bill
and
is
prepared
to
enforce
it.
Should
it
become
law.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
the.
C
E
A
H
C
Are
moving
towards
that,
however,
the
restriction
to
only
Center
City
doesn't
allow
them
to
be
completely
comparable.
You
know
we
think
that
you
know
bars
lounges,
where
adults
are
making
their
own
adult
decisions,
they're
permitted
throughout
the
city
in
many
different
areas,
so
these
would
not
be
treated
exactly
the
same
as
a
bar.
So.
C
H
A
Councilman
I
guess
the
the
argument,
the
counter-argument
that
would
be
that
maybe
there's
communities
that
do
not
desire
these
and
the
state.
The
businesses
is
counseling
chance
and
the
same
says
points
out
could
still
get
it,
but
they
would
have
to
go
through
the
Zoning
Board
and
the
community
would
have
to
be
involved.
I
think
that's
the
the
balance
they're
trying
to
reach
you,
catherine
heenan.
Thank.
I
You,
mr.
mr.
chair
and
I'm
glad
that
chairman
just
made
that
comment,
because
this
is
clearly
you
know,
regulating
it's
not
prohibited
any
kind
of
smoking
lounges
or
who
glances
it
with.
What
it
does
is,
if
you
you
know
with
in
in
certain
in
neighborhoods,
where
the
community
doesn't
have
any
kind
of
input,
they
don't.
You
know,
understand
you
know
the
hours
of
operations,
they
don't
understand
a
lot
about
the
small
businesses.
I
It
gives
an
opportunity
just
like
most
things
that
we
have
when
we've
reformed
our
zoning
code
and
and
it
has
tweaked
them
over
the
past
several
years.
You
know
we,
you
know
we,
as
you
know,
business
models,
change
and
and
new
businesses
come
into
our
communities.
The
community
has
repeatedly
asked
you
know
how
they
can
participate
and
what
they
would
like
and
or
conform
into
surrounding
areas.
I
So
I
think
it's
extremely
important
to
make
sure
that
our
communities
and
in
or
in
our
neighborhoods,
you
know,
have
the
opportunity
to
weigh
in
and
and
have
input
on.
You
know
who
their
partners
are
in
the
places
that
they
live
in
and
the
places
where
they
spend
our
money.
So
I
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity,
and
that
is
not
just
working
with
elected
officials,
both
state
city
and
federal
and
in
this
body,
but
as
well
as
our
city
departments
such
as
L&I,
who
strongly
recommends
so.
A
B
Fill
number
one:
nine:
zero,
five,
zero,
six
and
ornaments
an
ordinance
amending
section,
14
303
of
the
philadelphia
codons,
hello,
common
procedures
and
requirements
by
allowing
certain
letters
submitted
to
the
Zoning
Board
to
serve
as
an
entry
of
an
appearance
all
under
certain
terms
and
conditions.
Michigan.
C
Marty
Gursky
with
the
City
Planning
Commission
here
to
testify
our
bill
number
one.
Nine
zero
506
was
just
introduced
in
the
City
Council
on
June
6
of
this
year
by
a
councilmember
Greenlee
for
council
president
Clark
well
number
one:
nine
zero
506
amends
the
Philadelphia
zoning
code,
section
14
303,
entitled
common
procedures
and
requirements
by
allowing
certain
letters
submitted
to
the
Zoning
Board
to
serve
as
an
entry
of
appearance
all
under
certain
terms
and
conditions
for
the
purposes
of
providing
notices
of
the
CBA
decisions.
C
This
bill
will
work
as
intended,
but
we
believe
that
the
bill
may
give
registered
community
organizations
a
false
impression
that
the
entry
of
appearance
alone
satisfies
the
requirements
for
standing
to
appeal,
CBA
decisions
to
the
courts.
The
courts
will
look
to
whether
an
appellant
actually
appeared
at
the
hearing,
regardless
of
whether
an
entry
of
appearance
was
accepted.
Additionally,
this
bill
suggests
that
our
SEOs
will
be
receiving
preferential
treatment
over
other
individuals
who
are
also
unable
to
attend
the
hearings.
C
A
A
Because
I
think
the
intent
of
the
council
president
and
I,
like
you
say,
I
put
this
in
form,
which
is
to
make
sure
that
the
the
are
SEOs
and
the
members
that
wrote
in
which
used
to
be
I
think
the
practice
would
be
notified
of
the
decision
of
the
Zoning
Board
I
think
that's
basically
right
the
reason
behind
this
bill.
It
wasn't
to
go
any
further
and
it
will
do
because
if
people
do
want
to
be
counted
as
being
in,
you
know
in
any
kind
of
court
challenge
or
anything,
they
should
be.
There.
A
I
think
we
agree
with
that,
but
they
can't
come
to
everything
and
at
least
to
be
notified
of
what
the
decision
of
the
Zoning
Board
was
right.
Okay,
thank
you
any
please
let
the
record
reflect
that
councilman
school
squirrel
of
vice
chair
of
the
committee
and
councilman
Johnson
councilman
Johnson,
is
also
present
any
questions
for
mr.
Gorsky
on
this
bill.
Seeing
none
anyone
else
here
to
testify
on
bill
number
one:
nine:
zero,
five,
zero
six
seeing
none!
Thank
you
miss
Marconi
on
next
bill.
Please
goal.
B
Number
one:
nine
zero:
six:
five:
five
in
ordinance
amending
title
14
of
the
Philadelphia
Code
entitled
zoning
and
planning
to
revise
certain
provisions
of
chapter
14,
502
entitled
CCR's
Center
City
overlay
district
by
amending
the
Supplemental
use
controls
for
the
old
city
residential
area,
all
under
Stern
terms
and
conditions.
Good.
C
Morning,
Marty
reverse
key
with
the
Planning
Commission
here
to
testify.
I'm
bill
number
one:
nine
zero,
six,
five
five,
which
was
introduced
in
the
City
Council
on
September
12th
of
this
year
by
councilmember,
schoola,
well
number
one:
nine,
zero.
Six,
five
five
amends
the
Philadelphia
zoning
code
by
revising
certain
provisions
of
chapter
14,
502
entitled
centers
the
overlay
districts
by
amending
the
Supplemental
use
controls
for
the
old
city
residential
area.
The
intent
of
this
bill
is
to
promote
active
ground
floor
uses
in
old
city.
C
Will
for
sure
there's
problems
when
you
don't
allow
for
any
access
for
parking
or
egress
or
ingress
into
the
property
it?
The
strictest
interpretation
would
be
that
any
existing
parking
garage
doesn't
comply.
You'd
have
to
go
through
owning
board.
To
put
a
residential
unit
in
so
I
think
that
that
that
helps
we
looked
at
the
areas,
the
streets
that
were
included
and
not
all
of
them
have
commercial
on
them.
So
we,
basically,
you
know,
took
out
those
areas
that
didn't
have
commercial
on
them.
Anyway,
all.
I
C
A
B
J
Morning,
chairman
Greenlee
councilman,
Scala
and
members
of
the
committee
on
rules,
my
name
is
Joe
of
its
gauds
I'm.
The
executive
director
of
the
old
city
special
services
district
here
to
testify
in
support
of
bill
number
one:
nine
zero.
Six,
five
five
I
see
that
you
have
a
very
busy
agenda
today.
I've
submitted
written
testimony,
just
know
that
our
board
has
as
supports
this
bill.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
I
A
It
as
isn't:
okay,
all
right.
Thank
you.
Anyone
else
here
to
testify
on
bill
number
one:
nine,
zero,
six,
five,
five
all
right,
seeing
none
mr.
Marconi
on
next
bill,
but
before
she
actually
we're
gonna,
hear
three
bills
together,
but
before
she
does,
she
does,
as
we
appreciate
mr.
score,
it's
just
putting
in
the
written
testimony.
There
are
a
lot
of
people
now
that
want
to
testify
on
a
number
of
these
bills.
A
If
you
have
put
in
written
testimony,
we
would
ask
that
you
summarize
your
testimony
just
in
the
interest
of
time
for
everyone,
so
everyone
gets
a
chance
to
speak
and
not
have
to
leave
before
we
finish
that
testimony
will
be
made.
Part
of
the
in
its
full
will
be
made
part
of
the
record,
and
we
appreciate
your
cooperation
in
that.
So
mr.
Marconi
are
our
next
three
bills.
Please
bill.
B
Nine
zero.
Six
one:
three
in
or
enhancement
new
title
14
of
the
Philadelphia
Code
entitled
zoning
and
planning
to
revise
certain
provisions
of
chapter
14.
Yes,
600
entitled
use
regulations
by
a
many
new
standards
for
historically
designated
properties
and
making
related
changes
all
under
certain
terms
and
conditions.
Thank.
C
City
Planning
Commission
bill
number
one:
nine,
zero,
six
one
one
amends
the
philadelphia
zoning
code
by
amending
the
parking
standards
for
historically
designated
properties,
making
related
changes.
The
bill
lowers
the
minimum
parking
requirement
for
properties
that
are
locally
designated
historic
where
that
contributed
to
a
local,
historic
district.
This
means
that
an
existing
historic
structures
uses
that
are
not
allowed
by
Wright
will
not
require
a
minimal
amount
amount
of
parking,
also
for
additions
or
expansions
of
two
historic
structures.
The
base
zoning
district
required
minimum
parking
requirement
will
be
reduced
by
50%.
C
In
addition,
the
bill
would
exempt
the
ad
use
placed
within
such
place
within
such
structures
from
the
restriction
that
would
other
otherwise
limit
ad
use
to
a
maximum
size
of
800
square
feet.
The
City
Planning
Commission
considered
bill
number
one:
nine,
zero,
six
one,
two
that's
meeting
of
August
20th
and
recommended
it
for
approval
and
on
bill
number
one:
nine,
zero,
six
one
three.
This
will
allow
locally
designated
historic
properties,
zoned
residential
E
or
C
MX,
one
two
or
2.5
commercial
that
meets
certain
criteria
to
have
the
uses
permitted
in
cm
x3
community
commercial
district.
C
The
existing
buildings
must
be
used
for
one
of
the
following
uses
to
be
eligible
for
the
CM
x3
up
grade
an
office
use,
retail
sales,
community,
serve
commercial
service,
wholesale
distribution
and
storage
use
or
an
industrial
use
properties
with
no
such
history
of
uses,
as
confirmed
by
the
historical
Commission,
are
not
eligible
for
the
CM
x3
uses.
This
new
section
will
only
apply
to
existing
principal
structures
that
meet
the
criteria,
not
two
new
structures
or
expansions
of
existing
structures.
C
The
regulated
uses
such
as
adult
uses
or
amusement
arcades
would
not
be
permitted
and
none
of
the
new
new
uses
would
earn
any
Zoning
bonuses.
This
bill
was
also
amended
to
create
a
2500
square
foot
minimum
threshold
for
these
properties,
so
that
at
least
2,500
square
feet
of
the
property
was
currently
or
formerly
used
for
one
of
the
qualifying
uses
also
to
allow
the
applicant
to
use
the
properties
currently
zoned
and
to
prohibit
vehicular
equipment
and
sales
uses
in
these
properties.
C
These
changes
were
the
result
of
some
community
comments
on
the
existing
bill
and
will
serve
to
make
the
properties
more
compatible
with
neighborhoods,
in
which
they
are
located
this
bill
and
the
others
as
a
result
of
recommendations
of
the
historic
preservation
task
force.
This
would
expand
the
number
of
uses
that
historic
property
could
use
in
an
effort
to
make
keeping
the
building
more
appealing
to
developers,
as
opposed
to
demolishing
the
structure
for
a
new
use,
because
so
many
uses
would
now
be
available.
C
The
staff
believes
it
would
be
very
difficult
for
an
owner
to
use
a
financial
hardship
argument
before
the
Historical
Commission
regarding
proposed
demolitions
of
locally
designated
structures.
The
Planning
Commission
at
its
meeting
of
August
20
of
this
year,
recommended
bill
number
one,
nine,
zero,
six
one
three
for
approval
with
the
understanding
the
staff
would
pursue
the
possible
amendments
to
clarify
and
improve
sections
of
the
bill
which
were
causes
for
concerns
in
the
community
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank.
A
A
A
K
So
it
applies
to
a
very
small,
very
small,
subset
of
the
properties
in
the
city.
There
are
currently
no
preservation
specific
incentives
for
Historic
Preservation
in
Philadelphia,
which
is
kind
of
shocking
when
you
think
about
it,
because
we
all
know
that
Philadelphia
is
among
the,
if
not
the
most
historic
cities
in
the
United
States
of
America.
Yet
we
have
no
preservation,
specific
incentives.
These
incentives
are
not
financial
in
nature.
K
Parking
is
an
expensive
proposition
in
historic
buildings.
Oftentimes
historic
buildings
occupy
a
hundred
percent
of
their
lot.
100
percent
law
coverage,
so
this
bill,
if
it
went
through,
would
enable
the
property
owner
to
devote
more
resources
to
the
renovation
and
adaption
of
their
historic
property
bill.
One
one,
nine
six,
one
two
which
would
allow
accessory
dwelling
units
I,
always
use
the
example
of
a
big
sprawling
single
in
Germantown
or
any
Nate.
You
name
your
neighborhood,
Frankford
or
Mount,
Airy
or
Winfield
that
the
house
is
really
big.
There
might
be
an
empty-nester
or
couple
there.
K
There
might
be
a
young
couple
and
allowing
accessory
dwelling
units
in
residence
like
that,
would
provide
an
additional
source
of
revenue
for
that
property
owner
to
maintain
their
home.
It
also
increases
housing
supply
in
those
neighborhoods.
So
we
think
that's
a
smart
bill
as
well
and
finally
bill
one
nine
zero,
six,
one
three,
which
would
apply
to
special-purpose
buildings
I'm
talking
about
buildings
like
churches,
schools
and
industrial
buildings
that
are
being
converted
to
new
uses.
K
Six
one
three
would
make
it
easier
to,
instead
of
demolishing
them
having
those
church
buildings,
vacant,
former
schools,
old
factories
turned
into
housing
or
commercial
uses,
which
would
add
to
the
city's
economy,
add
to
street
life
and,
most
importantly,
to
us,
preserve
those
buildings
impact
on
the
historic
character
of
our
very
historic
city.
Again,
I
just
want
to
close
by
saying
these
bills
only
apply
to
historically
designated
properties.
It's
not
easy
to
get
your
building
designated
historic
as
councilman
Jones
knows
in
Overbrook
Farms.
K
L
My
name
is
Gary
Jonas
and
I'm,
the
treasurer
of
the
Building
Industry,
Association
and
I'm
here
to
testify
on
bills,
one
nine
zero
six,
one,
one:
nine
zero,
six
one
two
and
one
nine
zero
six
one
three
BIA
fully
recognizes
the
value
of
the
Historic
Preservation,
celebrating
Philadelphia's
history,
cultural
identity
and
the
character
of
our
diverse
neighborhoods.
We
support
here
we
support
measures
that
make
restoration,
rehabilitation
and
adaptive
reuse
of
designated
historic
buildings.
More
cost-effective.
L
L
Six
one
three
allows
for
the
by
right:
development
of
special-purpose
historic
buildings,
typically
churches,
schools
and
industrial
buildings
that
pose
particular
challenges
to
adaptive
reuse
by
significantly
broadening
the
potential
uses
beyond
what
the
underlying
zoning
would
allow.
Many
of
these
buildings
can
be
saved
so
on
behalf
of
the
350
member
companies,
the
BIA
welcomes
these
measures
and
looks
forward
to
supporting
further
incentives
and
regulatory
changes
as
line
in
the
task
force.
4/4
thank.
J
The
first
point
is
our
support
for
the
start:
preservation
task
force
process
for
the
18
months
that
a
very
diverse
and
wide-ranging
group
of
stakeholders
got
together
and
for
counsels,
work
and,
in
this
case,
councilmen
Scola's
work
to
take
the
information
from
the
task
force
and
apply
it
appropriately
to
on-the-ground
solutions
in
support
of
our
historic
infrastructure
that
we
have,
and
the
two
points
on
that
is.
We
applaud
that
this
e.
J
These
are
sensible
moves
to
address
what
are
really
obstacles
and
challenges
for
development
in
Philadelphia,
for
the
cost
of
construction,
the
cost
of
the
process
of
getting
approvals
and
the
relatively
low
return
that
buildings
gets.
So
this
helps
address
that
to
make
these
historic
preservation,
heartstart
preservation
of
existing
buildings
financially
feasible,
to
improve
improve
likelihood
that
those
buildings
will
get
to
stay
as
part
of
our
physical
and
cultural
heritage,
and
the
final
point
we
have
is
that
increasingly
people
are
looking
to
move
to
places
that
have
authentic
historic,
walkable
transit
oriented
neighborhoods.
J
These
are
historic
neighborhoods.
So
this
is
a
move
that
helps
bolster
the
ability
to
attract
new
residents
and
also
to
retain
our
graduates.
Commerce
Department's
reported
we've
done
a
great
job,
so
doubling
the
percentage
of
college
graduates
in
the
area
who
stay
here.
This
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
will
help
continue
to
increase
those
people
staying
in
Philadelphia.
Thank.
A
H
Come
on
a
thing,
the
sponsor
is
bill.
Raising
these
issues
want
to
thank
the
Historical
Commission
for
for
being
patient
with
me
to
understand
a
lot
of
these
issues
and
there's
a
book
called
the
geography
of
nowhere.
If
we're
not
careful,
it
shows
where
over
development
over
modernization
as
the
unintended
consequence
of
erasing
architectural
history,
and
if
you
look
at
some
of
the
sections
of
Philadelphia
now
they
look
like
every
other
section
of
Philadelphia.
F
As
well
and
to
Paul
stanky
I
would
like
to
punctuate
your
point
with
regards
to
so
many
of
our
historic
churches
and
how,
sadly
they're
being
torn
down
for
reasons
that
you
and
I
are
at
least
aware
of.
So
let
me
ask:
is
there
some
mechanism
in
place
by
which
there's
a
direct
connect
to
the
clergy
community
to
alert
them
that
that
they
need
to
consider
coming
to
your
organization
so
that
you
can
help
them
meet
the
high
standards
and
requirements
to
become
a
historic
certified
building?
We.
K
Do
have
strong
relationships
with
members
of
the
Philadelphia
clergy
for
multiple
denominations
and
we'd
like
to
be
able
to
go
back
to
them
and
say
that
City
Council
is
making
it
easier
to
adapt
these
buildings
and
for
them
to
consider
ways
to
make
sure
that
happens.
Even
if
and
when
their
tenancy
in
those
buildings
is
ending.
Yes,.
F
F
K
I
You,
mr.
chairman
and
I
do
want
to
thank
you
all
the
Preservation
Alliance,
along
with
the
taskforce
that
they
and
they
are
put
together,
because
these
recommendations,
among
others,
are
just
the
start
of
what
we
could
do
to
try
to
help
preserve
the
historic
fabric
of
the
city
of
Philadelphia
and
there's
going
to
be
hiccups
and
unintended
consequences
and
we're
going
to
learn
from
them
and
we
could
adjust
as
we
move
forward.
I
M
K
One
of
them,
that's
often
been
discussed,
is
the
ten
year
tax
abatement
to
find
ways
to
make
that
more
powerful
for
incentivizing
investment
and
maintenance
in
historic
buildings
in
the
city.
So
there
are
two
things
that
come
immediately
to
mind:
that
in
answer
to
your
question,
and
probably
as
soon
as
I
stop
talking
I'll.
Think
of
several
more
now.
I
J
I
did
want
to
quickly
point
out,
there's
something
that
few
people
seem
to
be
aware
of
in
the
city.
Part
of
the
Historical
Commission
is
I,
forget
the
exact
name
of
it,
but
a
hardship
task
force
financial
hardship.
So,
for
instance,
if
there's
home,
oh,
if
there
are
homeowners
who
live
in
a
historic
district
who
need
to
do
renovations
to
their
homes,
they
can
look
at
alternative
windows
or
shingles,
or
things
like
that.
J
If
they
can't
afford
to
say,
do
a
slate
roof
to
have
a
slate
look
roof
and-
and
you
know
every
month
that
I
believe
that
committee
meets
and
as
needed,
there
might
not
be
an
application
every
month,
but
so
that's
something
that
is
in
place
also
to
help
make
sure
that
there's
no
hardship
imposed
by
changes
like
this
that
are
made
or
expansion
of
historic
designation.
Alright,
thank
you
very
much.
E
E
Think
the
trade-off
between
the
parking
and
the
preservation
on
historical
buildings
is
a
plus
and
gentrifying
neighborhoods
I've
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
on
since
I've,
been
a
councilman,
also
state
representative
about
development,
equity
and
making
sure
it
is
a
balanced
approach
and
one
of
the
issues
that
we
deal
with
a
lot
in
areas
such
as
plane-trees
and
Gray's.
Ferry
is
when
we
see
development
taking
place
and
the
changing
of
the
neighborhood,
the
loss
of
particularly
to
churches
and
he's
the
historical
church
that
have
been
inside.
E
It
have
been
a
bedrock
prime
money
in
the
african-american
communities,
but
also
just
in
general,
throughout
on
the
second
council
Matic
district
as
well
and
I
know
even
in
parts
of
Girard
estate
in
the
44.
We
also
had
some
historical
churches
that
we
like
to
see
preserved.
Just
so
I
think
this
is
a
plus
when
this
commend
the
task
force
and
commend
councilman
schooler
for
this
leadership
on
one
issue
that
it
goes
a
long
way.
It's
what
also
just
bridging
what
I
saw.
E
Sometimes
a
divide
where
we
try
to
bring
people
together
and
a
lot
of
times
on
the
type
of
development
that
takes
place
in
a
community
can
be
that
they're
signing
fact
that
people
get
along
or
not
get
along
and
I
think
the
more
that
you
can
preserve
on
the
historical
buildings
that
think
it
goes
a
long
way
and
helping
people
maintain
their
natural
culture
of
their
neighborhood.
So
just
want
to
thank
you
for
your
leadership
on
this
you're.
K
A
E
Morning
my
name
is
Eli
Storch.
It's
a
pleasure
to
be
here
on
behalf
of
the
design
advocacy
group,
testifying
in
favor
of
all
three
bills
up
for
discussion,
the
design
advocacy
group
which
should
call
ourselves
dag,
is
a
public
forum
and
advocate
for
design,
quality
and
equity
in
the
planning,
architecture,
preservation
and
physical
development
of
Philadelphia
we're
a
volunteer
organization
of
more
than
1,700
members
from
a
broad
spectrum
of
disciplines
who
share
an
interest
in
promoting
excellence
in
Philadelphia's
physical
environment.
E
These
buildings
are
often
the
most
difficult
to
reuse,
and
this
added
level
of
flexibility
goes
a
long
way
to
giving
them
a
fighting
chance.
We
thank
you
for
addressing
the
challenge
of
historic
preservation
Philadelphia
head-on,
and
we
hope
that
you'll
support
all
three
bills.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you,
sir
Joe
good.
J
Morning,
chairman
Greenlee
councilmen
school
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
Joe
bit:
squits
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
the
old
city
special
services
district
here
to
testify
in
support
of
bill
number
one:
nine
zero
six
one.
One
I've
submitted
written
testimony
and
I'm
happy
to
rely
on
that.
I'll
just
mention
that
we're
not
offering
positions
on
the
other
two
bills
only
because
they
seemed
a
bit
less
applicable,
ironically
to
old
city,
where
our
churches
are
doing
fine
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
room
for
a
to
use
kernel,
but
for
the
parking
bill.
A
G
Morning,
my
name
is
Kathy
Dowdell
and
I'm,
testifying
today
on
behalf
of
the
Philadelphia
chapter
of
the
American
Institute
of
Architects.
Aia
is
Philadelphia's
voice
for
the
architectural
profession
and
represents
more
than
263
member
firms
and
228
affiliate
companies
supplying
products
and
services
to
the
region.
I'd
like
to
thank
chairman
Greenlee
for
allowing
me
to
testify
and
I
also
I
thank
councilman
Squealer
for
introducing
bills.
G
1
906,
1,
1,
1,
906,
1,
2,
&,
1,
906,
1
3,
which
a
I
a
philadelphia
enthusiastically
endorses
the
recently
concluded
preservation
taskforce
accurately
pointed
out
the
dearth
of
incentives
for
historic
preservation
in
Philadelphia,
and
these
three
bills
begin
to
address.
That
lack
to
briefly
summarize,
we
support
the
elimination
of
parking
minimums
for
historic
buildings
undergoing
adaptive
reuse.
G
We
agree
that
purpose-built
historic
properties
should
be
reused
without
requiring
a
zoning
variance,
and
we
think
this
will
incentivize
the
adaptive
reuse
of
these
challenging
structures
and
we
feel
that
the
provision
for
allowing
accessory
dwelling
units
in
large
owner-occupied
homes
will
assist
with
affordability
for
both
homeowners
and
their
prospective
tenants.
We
thank
councilman
Squealer
for
taking
the
lead
on
introducing
and
championing
these
bills
as
important
as
these
bills
are,
though,
they
represent
only
a
first
step
in
creating
real
incentives
for
preservation
and
adaptive
reuse
of
our
older
buildings.
G
The
AIA
both
locally
and
nationally,
is
interested
in
and
committed
to
the
sustainability
of
our
built
environment
for
new
construction
projects.
We
embrace
the
latest
in
green
building
standards.
However,
it's
often
said
that
the
greenest
building
is
one
that's
already
here.
Preserving
the
best
of
our
existing
built
environment
will
contribute
to
the
city's
sustainability
and
affordability
goals.
G
Therefore,
in
that
spirit,
we'd
like
to
make
a
few
brief
suggestions
with
the
hope
that
City
Council
will
consider
and
support
additional
efforts
in
this
regard,
Councilwoman
Blackwell
has
recently
proposed
creating
a
preservation
assistance
fund
to
assist
lower-income
homeowners
with
historically
sensitive
repairs.
At
the
same
time,
councilman
Scala
and
the
City
Planning
Department
have
been
working
on
a
bill
to
create
something
for
preservation
similar
to
the
Housing
Trust
Fund.
Any
program
that
encourages
the
maintenance
and
repair
of
historic
buildings
over
deterioration
and
demolition
will
have
our
support.
G
In
addition,
this
kind
of
assistance
will
allow
lower
income
homeowners
to
remain
in
their
houses
and
in
their
neighborhoods,
contributing
to
the
stability
of
those
families
and
neighborhoods.
We
also
enthusiastic
Lisa
the
creation
of
a
citywide
survey
of
historic
resources,
a
key
recommendation
of
the
taskforce.
Such
a
survey
would
benefit
the
entire
City
Planning
and
Development
community,
along
with
assisting
community
groups
who
want
to
understand
what
is
significant
in
their
own
neighborhoods.
G
Lastly,
link
to
a
citywide
survey
of
historic
resources
is
our
hope
that
a
more
careful
review
of
proposed
demolitions
can
be
implemented,
particularly
while
such
a
survey
of
resources
is
underway.
Every
neighborhood
is
experiencing
the
loss
of
character
defining
buildings
in
some
areas
at
a
staggeringly
rapid
pace,
while
not
all
demolitions
can
or
should
be
halted.
We
are
inadvertently
allowing
many
historic
buildings
to
be
put
at
risk
simply
because
we
don't
know
what
we
have.
The
AIA
supports
bills
number
one:
nine,
zero.
G
E
E
Bringing
forward
these
bills
any
movement,
destruction
is
good.
I
generally
support
all
three
of
them.
I
just
have
a
comment
about
one
nine,
oh
six,
one
three
and
it's
possible
that
I
just
don't
understand
the
bill.
My
concern
is
that
it
only
covers
zmx
one
two
and
2.5,
but
there
are
parts
of
our
city
that
have
historically
valuable
buildings
that
are
already
at
risk.
I
Basically,
the
the
reason
was
the
incentivize,
the
the
buildings
who
are
at
zoning
levels
because
they're
the
ones
that
usually
have
a
harder
time
being
able
to
get
reused
and
the
that
funds
available
are
not
available
for
those
smaller
zone
buildings,
people
who
do
the
bigger
buildings
at
the
recourse
to
do
that,
but
I
think
during
this
process.
As
you
heard,
with
the
Preservation
Alliance,
we,
we
are
constantly
looking
to
fix
things
if
they
feel
like
there
is
something
that
is
missed
or
an
unintended
consequence
that
we
did
something
that
we
should
pull
back
on.
I
C
E
N
C
The
uses
right,
Sam,
X
3,
is,
if
you
put
them
all
together
in
a
line.
One
is
the
least
it
gives
the
least
amount
of
commercial
5
gives
the
most.
This
is
in
the
middle,
so
having
cm
x,
5
is
already
very
good
zoning,
where
you're
permitted
almost
every
year
she
can
have
in
the
city
it,
wouldn't
it
wouldn't
make
any
sense
to
drop
it
down
to
cm
x.
3
cm
x,
5
already
has
great
number
of
uses
already.
It's
consistent
with
everything
downtown
I.
I
Think
maybe
the
confusing
part:
this
is
an
incentive
bill
to
incentivize
it.
So
5
already
has
those
incentives
in
there.
So
it's
giving
3
and
2
more
incentives
to
keep
them,
but
5
already
has
the
incentives
to
keep
them
now.
People
may
choose
to
demolish
them
also,
but
hopefully
we
could
do
that
through
historic,
designation
and
other
things,
and
not
so
much
by
incentive
than
even
because
it
there's
not
much
more.
You
could
do
to
incentivize
a
five,
but.
D
I
E
C
You
would
still
need
to
go
to
the
store
Commission's.
Have
you
know
any
additions
to
see
mx-5
building,
which
could
be
a
lot?
They
could
be
huge
or
to
demolish
any
of
those
buildings.
This
the
bill
we're
talking
about
it,
only
incentivizes
the
uses.
So
it's
it's.
It's
trying
to
strengthen
preserve
by
giving
a
residential
property
on
a
more
uses,
so
that
church,
which
may
be
zoned
residential
II,
doesn't
have
to
be
used
as
a
single
single-family
dwelling
I
could
be
used
for
other
uses
which
would
allow
to
keep
going
and
not
I.
I
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
These
are
other
questions
or
comments
all
right.
Thank
you.
All.
Anyone
else
here
to
testify
on
any
each
three
bills:
one
nine
zero
six,
one,
one,
one:
nine
zero,
six,
one,
two
one:
nine
zero,
six
one!
Three
all
right,
please!
If
we
could
try
to
be
as
brief
as
possible,
because
we're
really,
as
you
see
a
lot
of
people
in
here,
please
like
that,
apply
yourself
in
procedure.
Hi.
L
My
name
is
Greg:
past
I
live
in
Bella,
Vista
I
was
on
the
zoning
code
Commission
and
the
Zoning
Board
and
I've
actually
taught
LMI
inspectors.
So
I
just
want
to
talk
really
briefly
to
some
of
the
things.
The
technical
aspects
of
the
bills
here
that
I
can
tell
you
if
you
pass
it
like
this,
you
get
10
different
answers
from
ten
different
plans,
examiner's,
so
taking
these
bills
in
order
very
quickly.
L
Six
one
one
there
notwithstanding
Clause
in
here
is
not
necessarily
going
to
hold
up
against
the
zoning
overlay
and
I
think
that
needs
to
be
either
taken
just
to
be
understood
and
overlays
you're
going
to
take
precedence
over
this,
and
that
is
just
something
you
should
understand
it's
going
to
happen
and
take
that
into
consideration.
Also
the
portion
of
portions
of
such
buildings
or
structures
that
are
not
designated
as
historical
or
considered
contributing
the
way.
This
reads:
it's
possible
that
you
would
get
this
benefit.
L
This
parking
benefit
from
on
a
vacant
lot
in
a
historic
district,
I'm,
not
sure
that
was
what's
intended.
Maybe
it
is
agnostic
about
what
you're
trying
to
do,
but
you
should
be
clear
on
that:
6
1
2,
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
and
again
I'm
agnostic
on
this,
but
the
way
this
is
written
the
way
the
code
works
as
far
as
how
its
laid
out.
This
only
holds
for
things
that
are
semi,
detached
or
detached
housing,
and
that
would
be
your
Mount
Airy.
L
That
would
be
lots
of
places
out
in
West
Philly,
but
it
wouldn't
be
RIT
fit
or
Society
Hill.
That
may
be
what
you
intend,
but
the
way
this
reads
is:
if
you're
in
a
giant
row
house
and
Society
Hill
you're
an
attached
structure,
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
have
an
aid
to
you
again.
That
may
be
your
goal.
Is
that
they're
not
supposed
to
be
in
in
row
houses?
But
you
want
to
move.
You
want
to
know
whether
or
not
you
mean
that.
L
L
And
then
and
then
6
1
3
is
more
complicated,
and
so
it's
got
a
lot
more
sort
of
wrong
with
it.
The
first
of
all
the
Historical
Commission
just
confirms
to
L&I
you,
you
need
to
say
somewhere
else
in
the
code,
maybe
in
14
1000
or
something
that
this
is
something
that
Historical
Commission
does
there's.
No
there's
no
Nexus,
there's
nothing
here.
L
I,
don't
know
if
that
includes
modern
uses,
I
don't
know
if
it
includes
variant
uses
the
way
this
reads
now
is:
if
somebody
in
2014
got
a
daycare,
that's
going
to
fall
onto
public
civic
institutional,
which
I
believe
at
least
in
my
reading
is
still
in
the
legislation,
and
that
much
just
means
you
can
have
a
hotel
or
a
restaurant
in
that
house
and
society
hill
again,
I'm
agnostic
about
it,
but
I
think
it's
important
for
everybody
to
understand.
Really
what
can
come
down
the
pipe?
L
Forget
the
only
uses
if
some
other
people
have
mentioned
in
the
past
I
think
that
the
idea
of
what's
a
less
restrictive
use
is
a
very
difficult
thing
to
understand
in
the
code.
So
the
part
about
how
you
can
get
the
CM
x3
uses
when
they're
less
restrictive
is
something
that
probably
needs
a
little
more
verbiage
here.
L
The
part
about
the
limitations,
in
the
exceptions
not
carrying
over
to
only
carrying
to
the
port
portion
of
the
building.
That's
already
there.
It's
not
clear
whether,
even
with
this
amendment
of
2500
square
feet,
whether
if
the
ground
floor
of
a
big
building
was
2500
square
feet
and
there
was
a
store,
are
you
allowed
to
have
a
hotel
in
the
entire
building
that
that's
also
not
clear
by
the
legislation.
L
Regulated
uses
aren't
in
cm
x3
anyway,
that's
belt-and-suspenders,
which
some
people
like
I,
just
find
that
every
time
you
put
belt-and-suspenders
in
a
zone
and
a
code,
you
create
questions
down
the
line.
The
exception
to
that
says
that
it
doesn't
apply
to
use
specific
standards
or
accessory
uses
and
structures.
L
An
exception
to
an
exception
is
always
a
difficult
thing
for
L&I
to
understand,
and
it's
not
clear
about
whether
the
use
of
specific
standards
say
spacing
for
medical
marijuana
or
something
which
is
allowed
in
cm
x3
by
special
exception
would
not
kick
in
if
that
bill
were
say
pad.
Well,
that's
actually
in
the
legislation.
Now,
as
far
as
the
as
a
spacing
requirement,
the
same
thing
about
roof
decks
for
commercial
use,.
J
L
A
A
I'm
almost
let
me
just
let
me
make
it
easy
here:
I
think
counts
from
squirrel.
I
know:
I
stated
before
this
is
an
evolving
process.
I
understand
all
right.
Let
me
finish:
I
didn't
interrupt
you,
okay,
all
right!
Thank
you,
so
councilman
I
think.
If,
if
some
of
the
concerns
that
are
raised,
I
mean
we
can
always
make
certain
amendments,
certain
changes
and.
I
Unfortunately,
sometimes
we
do
have
unintended
consequences.
When
we
do
this
and
then
we
have
to
try
to
go
back
so
yeah
at
least
unintended
consequences.
We
could
come
up
with
we'll
be
happy
to
do
that
and
I.
You
know.
If
you
want
to
email
me
afterwards,
we
could
set
up
a
time
to
sit
down
and
discuss
it.
A
A
B
Number
one:
nine
zero,
six:
five:
nine
in
ordinance
establishing
a
neighborhood
Improvement
District
to
be
known
as
the
fish
town,
Kensington
Area,
Business,
Improvement
District
in
an
area
that
generally
includes
both
sides
of
Frankfort
Avenue
from
the
west
side
of
Delaware
Avenue
to
the
south
side
of
Lehigh
Avenue.
Both
sides
of
north
front
street
from
the
north
side
of
Poplar
Street
to
the
south
side
of
Montgomery
Street.
B
Improving
a
plan
for
a
report
that
concerning
the
district
authorizing
the
director
of
commerce,
on
behalf
of
the
city,
to
execute
an
agreement
with
the
fish
town,
Kensington
Area,
Business,
Improvement,
District
Incorporated,
relating
to
the
district
and
authorizing
the
fish
Talon
Kensington
Area.
Business
Improvement
District
incorporated
to
assess
property
owners
within
the
district,
a
special
property
assessment
fee
to
be
used
in
accordance
with
the
approved
plan,
all
in
the
coordinates
with
the
provisions
of
the
Community
and
Economic
Improvement
Act
and
under
certain
terms
and
conditions.
Mr.
A
J
The
result
of
this
process
is
the
five-year
plan
found
within
today's
legislation.
Creation
of
a
bid
to
serve
this
area
will
benefit
both
businesses,
property
owners
and
neighbors.
The
proposed
bid
an
unusual
concentration
of
small,
independently
owned
and
operated
small
businesses.
Despite
the
growth
of
the
area.
J
Many
of
these
businesses
still
need
the
ongoing
support
with
marketing
promotions
and
advocacy
that
a
Business
Improvement
District
can
provide
the
area
to
be
served
by
the
proposed
bid
has
become
one
of
Philadelphia's,
most
visited,
neighborhood,
dining
and
nightlife
destinations,
as
we've
seen
in
other
areas
of
the
city,
it's
much
easier
to
manage
the
public
safety
issues,
parking
and
other
issues
associated
with
nightlife.
When
there's
a
cohesive
organization
that
includes
property
owners
in
the
business
community,
we
commend
property
owners
and
business
people
for
addressing
these
challenges
together.
This
important
effort
deserves
your
consideration.
A
O
Morning,
chairman
Greenlee
and
members
of
the
Rules
Committee
and
I
also
like
to
thank
councilman
member
squill
o
for
helping
to
support
this
bill
sponsoring
this
bill.
My
name
is
Paul
Kim,
port
I'm,
a
fish
town
resident
and
with
William
Reed
I
am
co-owner
of
Johnny
Brenda's
and
the
international,
both
of
which
are
in
the
proposed
service
area
of
the
fish
town,
Kensington
Area
Business
Improvement
District,
the
International
is
relatively
new
venture
Johnny
Brenda's
has
been
partnering
with
the
fish
town
community
for
over
15
years.
Mr.
O
Reed
and
I
also
in
standard
tap
a
proud
20-year
stalwart
of
the
adjacent
Northern
Liberties
neighborhood,
which
has
just
recently
formed
its
own
bid.
It
is
our
hope
for
Business
Improvement
District
in
the
fish
town
Kensington
area
and
to
connect
resources
with
the
northerly
breeze
along
the
shared
Front
Street
Andriod
Avenue
of
service
boundaries
in
Fishtown,
Johnny
Brenda's
has
grown
from
a
small
corner.
Tavern
was
less
than
dozen
employees
to
a
full-scale
bar
and
restaurant,
with
a
nationally
recognized,
independent
music
venue
and
now
employs
over
40
staff.
O
Members
I
feel
that
the
hospitality
and
food
service
industry
can
really
help
to
express
a
community
identity
and
much
of
time
the
greater
the
success
is
in
this
connection
to
our
neighborhood
I've
tried
very
sincerely
to
identify
my
business
with
its
local
pride.
Many
current
past
employees
have
homes
and
through
the
years
Johnny
Brenda's
has
hosted
numerous
events
to
support
local
institutions
such
as
Lutheran
settlement
house
and
urban
farms,
greens
grow
and
humble
Street,
community
farm,
as
well
as
organizations
in
the
Greater
Philadelphia
area.
Like
the
Bicycle
Coalition
of
Philadelphia
and
the
girls
Rock
Philly.
O
I
felt
that
participating
and
collective
planning
along
Girard
Avenue
corridor
could
help
join
Fishtown
to
Jason
neighborhoods
and
that
the
strategic
work
from
the
larger
United
community
could
help
us
all
in
2006
was
the
help
of
encouragement
of
new
transit
and
Community
Development
Corporation
I
started
a
neighborhood
business
association
wisely
and
Casey.
Dc's
vision
recognized
a
need
for
an
organized
and
stable
business
community,
and
then
I
chose
the
name
Fishtown
Area
Business
Association,
because
I
wanted
a
name
that
felt
general
friendly
and
inclusive
weber.
Was
an
active
member.
O
Weber
was
active
for
a
number
of
years
and
served
as
a
much-needed
business
networking
organization
in
2016
I
helped
to
create
Fishtown,
Co,
Business
Association,
which
helps
produce
neighborhood,
seasonal
events
and
also
partners
with
Fishtown
Neighborhood
Association
public
space
on
public
space
projects.
Together,
our
primary
goal
has
been
to
explore
how
to
collectively
handle
some
of
the
common
issues
daily,
cleaning,
improved
lighting
and
public
safety,
using
our
own
investment
of
time
and
money.
However,
we
have
come
to
realize
that
our
efforts
alone
are
not
adequate
enough
to
without
forming
a
bid.
We
need
a.
O
We
need
to
give
greater
structure
to
these
efforts
and
try
the
necessary
support
to
make
them
ongoing
and
sustainable
I
have
served
as
the
chair
of
the
Fishtown
Kensington
Area
Abid
steering
committee
for
the
last
year.
I
strongly
believe
that
Fishtown,
like
many
the
lucky
neighborhoods,
has
a
unique
history
and
dynamism
that
exists
between
the
commercial
avenues
in
the
residential
community
through
the
years.
O
The
bid
will
go
for
best
practices,
orthodoxy
and
connecting
its
efforts,
while
also
striving
to
express
itself
through
diversity,
creativity.
We
want
to
help
protect
and
cultivate
a
unique,
thriving
and
proud
comfortable
place.
We
know
that
both
intentional
planning
and
community
engagement
are
needed
to
assure
this
dual
goal
of
preserving
values,
while
improving
a
community
vision
together.
Kay
Anderson
from
NCPC
will
now
speak
about
our
planning
process
for
this
bid.
O
We
also
have
other
supportive
supporters
here
that
have
offered
verbal
and
written
testimony
at
the
discretion
of
the
Rules
Committee,
and
we
will
continue
to
share
with
our
council
members
copies
of
ballots
from
our
growing
list
of
supporters.
Businesses
and
property
owners
alike
now
are
presenting
more
than
90
properties,
as
well
as
for
letters
from
local
community
organizations.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
and
consideration.
Thank
you.
N
Good
morning
everybody
and
members
of
the
Rules
Committee,
just
so
everybody
knows,
my
name-
is
Kay
Anderson
I
work
at
New,
Kensington,
Community,
Development,
Corporation
I've
served
as
the
director
of
economic
development
there
for
the
last
two
and
a
half
years.
In
addition
to
being
an
assessment,
paying
organization
through
three
properties
located
at
25,
13,
26,
10,
26,
12,
Frankfort,
Avenue
and
KCDC
has
assumed
responsibility
for
managing
the
corridors
of
the
fish
town
at
Kensington
area
for
over
ten
years,
primarily
primarily
through
funding
from
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
based
on
the
community
Block
Grant
eligibility.
N
N
N
Responses
presented.
The
plan
at
several
business
and
community
meetings,
as
well
as
emailed
updates
to
a
large
network
of
business
owners,
held
two
community
meetings.
In
the
spring,
with
a
combined
attendance
of
more
than
80
people
to
present
the
plan
for
feedback,
small
meetings
and
conducted
a
corridor
walk
to
reach
approximately
40,
more
businesses
and
property
owners
over
the
summer,
mailed
the
bid
packet
to
2,200
owners
and
tenants
in
our
790
property
bid
area
in
order
to
increase
the
chances
for
reaching
the
affected
property
owners
and
their
tenants.
N
We
held
one
more
community
meeting
in
September
after
the
bid
packet
mailing
went
out
with
another
25
attendees
and
since
then
have
also
distributed
FA,
cues
and
other
general
information
fliers
to
all
the
commercial
properties
in
the
bid
to
times
leading
up
to
today's
hearing
our
budget
of
544
thousand
for
year.
One
includes
two
hundred
and
two
two
hundred
two:
five:
zero:
zero
for
cleaning
maintenance
and
greening.
Thirty.
Six
thousand
one
hundred
forty
four
capital
improve
Vincente
parking
to
be
used
for
base
funding
to
pair
with
outside
grants.
N
66,000
for
economic
development,
such
as
business,
recruitment
and
retention,
and
public
safety,
47,000
for
marketing
and
promotions
for
the
district
192
thousand
for
administration,
including
2.5
staff,
people,
to
manage
the
bids
programs
and
operations
and
our
year
1
assessment
rate
is
approximately
0.18
percent.
With
a
cap
of
2.5
percent
of
the
budget
and
a
minimum
of
365
for
any
property
with
a
structure,
the
bid
will
also
be
governed
by
a
15
member
volunteer
board
with
80%
representation
from
the
neighbourhood
and
council.
N
President
Clark
councilmember
Kim,
Yuna's,
Sanchez
and
councilmember
Scola
have
all
expressed
interest
in
being
on
the
board
as
well.
The
overall
budget
is
limited
to
a
maximum
of
a
3%
annual
increase
in
order
to
limit
increases
for
property
owners
over
the
five-year
term
of
the
bid
and
at
the
end
of
each
year
an
independent
audit
will
be
performed
and
presented
to
the
assessment
payers
at
an
annual
meeting.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
for
all
the
work
you
you're
doing
up
there.
If
there's
no
questions
or
comments,
I
know
mister,
and
also
we
should
let
the
record
reflect
camp
all
right
hold
on
hold
on
the
council.
President
Clark
is
also
present.
Here's
what
I
would
like
to
do
with
the
committee.
Mr.
Kim
board
mentioned
there
was
a
lot
of
people
here
for
verbal
or
written
support.
Are
there
people
here
opposed
to
this
bill?
Okay,
all
right!
A
A
A
G
Morning,
my
name
is
oh,
it's
just
Lou
and
I
reside
in
Fishtown
man
I'm
familiar
with
the
bid
it
was
introduced
to
us
some
time
ago.
My
concern
and
the
concern
of
them
many
people
that
belong
to
the
fish
town
neighbors
but
live
in
fish
town
for
some
years
is
our
neighborhood
is
becoming
not
itself
we're
losing
a
residential
stock,
we're
not
gaining
a
residential
stock,
we're
losing
the
wrench
residential
stock,
because
the
Carters
Frankfort
Avenue
and
Girard
Avenue,
East
and
West
have
become
businesses
that
attract
a
lot
of
tourists.
G
That's
wonderful
at
the
place
where
those
tourists
are
which
is
the
connecting
of
the
front
street
George,
Avenue
and
Frankfurt
down
where
Frankfurt
Hall
Johnny
Brenda's
the
garage
that
area
doesn't
need
help.
It
needs
a
B
ID.
Those
are
large
businesses
with
when
I
say
thousands
of
people
there
on
a
weekend,
I'm,
not
exaggerating
as
you
come
up
to
Lourdes
Avenue,
for
instance,
the
700
block
those
are
residents
now
I
know
residents
won't
be
taxed,
then
they
won't
have
to
contribute.
G
But
as
that
business
lane
encroaches
it's
taking
away
residential
stock
and
as
that
Lane
encroaches
on
those
avenues.
It
comes
in
to
that
takes
away
residential
stock,
half
of
my
block
and
that's
Burke
street
half
of
my
block
are
people
who
have
moved
in
because,
thank
god,
we've
got
much
better
schools.
We've
got
much
better
amenities.
We've
got
a
lot
to
offer
two
residences
who
have
kids
when
you're
not
going
to
attract
residences
with
kids
to
those
blocks.
G
If
they've
got
large
businesses
and
the
problems
that
come
with
large
businesses,
half
a
block
away
from
their
home
from
their
home,
so
I
say
those
areas
in
Fishtown
by
the
intersection
of
Transportation.
They
do
need
bid,
but
above
Columbia
Avenue
on
Girard
and
above
Columbia
Avenue
on
Frankfort.
You
go
as
far
as
you
want
on
Front
Street
that
meets
everything
above
those
two
streets.
G
You
have
a
lot
of
people
who
might
be
exempt
because
they
lived
there,
but
I'll
give
you
one
example,
but
this
is
I
can
give
you
five
of
the
same
examples
in
that
four
block
radius,
we
have
senior
who
lives
in
house
a.
He
owns
house
B.
It's
a
family
house
been
there
forever.
His
people
aren't
making
$1,000
a
month.
The
city's
killing
him
on
house
beat
taxes.
He
can't
even
afford
to
do
the
survey
to
make
the
both
properties
into
one.
G
He
don't
have
that
kind
of
money,
but
he
has
both
of
those
he's
going
to
be
disadvantaged
again
he's
already
disadvantaged
by
the
times
he's
gonna
be
disadvantaged
again
by
now
having
the
bid
come
into
his
life,
what
we
want
on
a
bid
or
don't
come
that
far
north
things
are
gonna
change
over
time
and
not
over
20
years,
probably
over
less
than
ten.
Let
them
change
more,
naturally,
don't
force
it
down
the
residents
throat
again.
Okay,.
A
P
Morning
my
name
is
Amanda
Bossard.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak.
The
first
reason
for
opposition
to
the
proposed
Fishtown
Kensington
Area
business.
Investing
investment
district
refers
to
the
795
affected
property
owners.
They
include
both
commercial
property
owners
and
residential
who
rent
the
property
as
Miss
mischiefs
ler
mentioned
and
I
did
a
short
survey
on
my
own.
After
realizing
that
this
proposal
was
going
before
the
council.
P
It
was
just
before
the
last
meeting
before
the
September
24th
community
meeting
I
found
the
notice
in
the
mail
and
went
and
asked
the
property
owners
of
properties
located
near
and
aware.
The
one
my
family
owns
and
I
was
only
able
to
find
two
property
owners
who
were
aware
that
this
was
happening
out
of
the
twenty
that
I
spoke
with
in
my
immediate
area,
and
one
of
them
is
actually
one
of
the
advocates
representing
himself
here
today
and
the
other
was
actually
opposed
to
it.
P
So
of
the
twenty
people
I
spoke
to,
19
were
opposed
to,
and
I
had
only
done.
A
really
brief
search
like
based
on
the
awareness
of
the
situation
that
as
I,
was
made
aware
at
the
end
of
September
and
at
that
point,
I
had
already
been
too
committed
for
the
date
in
question
of
the
final
meeting
on
September
24th
to
attend
that.
So
this
has
really
been
my
first
opportunity
to
speak
publicly
and
share
other
concerns
other
than
inadequate
notification
to
the
affected
property
owners.
P
The
second
one
is
really
to
the
point
of
the
self-imposed
tax
and
that
that
it
should
not
come
as
an
external
vehicle
to
people
who
are
unaware
that
they're
volunteering
to
allow
a
self-imposed
tax,
so
that
should
be
something
done
organically
and
collectively
by
the
795
property
owners
as
they
need
to.
You
know
together
unifying
them.
P
P
On
top
of
my
stool
ceiling
list
property
taxes,
there's
no
limit
to
OPA
right
now,
I,
don't
see
anything
being
discussed
about
what
to
look
forward
to
in
terms
of
what
would
reign
in
the
realistic
expectation
of
like
normal
property
tax
increases,
they
could
go
on
indefinitely
for
all
I
know,
and
they
have
been
consecutively
for
years.
So
a
surcharge
on
top
of
that
seems
really
unnecessary
right
now,
and
especially
one
that
I'm
not
able
to
effect
any
accountability
for
the
quality
of
the
service
and
the
people
in
charge
of
making
those
promises
come
true.
P
P
If
we
decide
to
financially
opt
out,
they'd
be
able
to
lean
our
properties
and
maybe
in
20
years
time,
when
our
children
are
ready
to
inherit
things
or
we're
selling
things
to
pay
for
medical
bills
that
they
would
have
a
windfall
of
money
from
numerous
liens
of
all
795
property
owners.
If
we
did
all
opt
out
and
protest,
I
feel
like
it's
like
they're
trying
to
win
the
lottery
without
really
fully
explaining
to
everybody.
What
is
the
advantage
of
this
risk?
P
The
risk
reward
balance
has
not
been
presented
objectively
enough
for
795
people
to
make
an
educated
decision,
and
the
risk
is
substantial
to
us
and
to
our
heirs
and
to
subsequent
uses
of
the
property,
and
our
property
is
actually
rented
right
now.
So
I
did
ask
the
business
owner
renting
the
space,
and
she
feels
that
the
small
footprint
of
the
space
occupied
by
our
property
is
potentially
maxed
out
for
Soros.
She
can
tell
she
gets
a
very
high
cost
per
service
in
her
service
oriented
no
inventory
intense
business.
P
Many
of
the
properties
are
just
a
small
of
a
footprint
and
they
don't
represent
the
same
needs
as
the
much
larger
businesses.
Also
that
were
mentioned
by
mr.
Schussler.
It's
very
difficult
economically
to
maximize.
You
know
your
return
on
a
small
footprint
and
to
share
the
costs
and
the
burdens
that
are
really
limited
to
a
handful
of
the
much
larger
businesses
and
and
also
did
not
recognize
how
important
these
small
businesses
are
to
the
unique
landscapes
that
make
it
a
foot,
traffic
friendly
and
safe
place.
P
Where
people
like
to
live
to
come
behind
their
purview
and
awareness
and
charge
them
more
as
the
sort
of
almost
could
be
perceived
as
a
punishment
and
obstacle
to
their
success,
even
though
they're
part
of
the
greatness
of
the
character
and
the
wealth
of
the
community
that
makes
people
whatever
obstacles
residential
new
homeowners
ad,
they
at
least
liked
the
area
because
of
these
unique
businesses.
These
are
not
franchises
and
cookie
cutters.
That's
right.
A
E
Good
morning
my
name
is
Maryann
Lehrer
I'm,
a
property
owner,
a
commercial
property
owner
on
the
600
block
of
Girard
Avenue,
and
to
kind
of
just
piggyback
off
of
that
conversation.
I
also
oppose
the
bill
and
I
think
from
my
angle,
I'm,
actually
questioning
the
sustainability
of
the
funds
going
into
the
neighborhood
only
because
fish
town
and
the
adjacent
areas
that
are
under
discussion
do
border
the
opioid
epidemic
areas
of
Kensington.
So
are
the
funds
that
are
going
into
this
bill
and
the
rejuvenation
of
the
area.
E
A
Let
me
hear
from
the
gentleman
back
there,
who's
also
I,
think
in
opposition.
Then,
if
there's
any
questions
or
comments,
we'll
try
to
address
them.
Please
thank
you.
You,
the
rest.
You
can
just
stay.
There
can
just
stay
in
the
area
right
there
there
you
go.
Okay,
thank
you
and
let
me
before
you
start,
sir,
if
there's
other
people
here
that
want
to
testify
in
support,
are
they
all
right?
That's
too
many
hands,
here's
what
I'm
gonna
suggest.
Okay,
if
you
could
work
out
with
yourselves
miss
Gallinger,
please
we
had
four
people
here.
A
H
Sir,
please
hi,
my
name
is
Marat
Ayrton
I
own,
a
property
orange
rot
Avenue
in
fact,
I
own
the
property
right
next
to
Johnny
Brenda's
next
to
Paul.
He
is
my
direct
neighbor
I've.
Never
once
heard
anything
about
this
until
a
couple
weeks
ago.
Do
you
think
he
would
just
come
next
door
and
talk
to
me
or
my
tenant
about
what
he's
trying
to
push
through
here?
H
No,
not
once
he
says,
he's
taught
what
a
bunch
of
sham,
what
a
bunch
of
lies
and
deceit
that
this
group
has
put
forward.
They
haven't
gone,
talked
to
nobody.
They've
got
all
the
time
in
the
world.
Do
you
think
they'd
walk
up
and
down,
draw
an
avenue
and
Frankfort
Avenue
and
talk
to
actual
the
people
that
have
the
businesses
and
properties?
No.
H
H
Speaking
for
us,
I
didn't
elect
him.
I
didn't
elect
Paul
to
be
fish
town's
mayor.
Nobody,
nobody
elected
him,
he's
Johnny,
Brenda
and
he's
the
only
one
pushing
this
through
because
of
his
business
and
his
chaos
that
he
creates
on
his
corner.
Not
the
outskirts
of
Girard
Avenue
were
front
Street
or
Frankford
Avenue.
All
these
mom-and-pop
shops
they're
not
represented
by
him.
He
doesn't
speak
for
us.
In
fact,
he
doesn't
even
speak
for
me.
I
live
right
next
door
just
and
this
undemocratic
process
that
we
have
going
on
here.
Oh
you
have
to
opt
out.
I
State
ordinance
in
the
state
mandate
we've
actually
worked.
It
used
to
be
50%
because
of
the
opt-out
procedures.
It's
now
only
a
third,
so
only
a
third
of
the
people
have
to
opt
out
to
defeat
it.
So
it's
all
about
democratic
process.
This
actually
benefits
the
people
who
opposed
it.
Then
the
people
who
actually
support
it.
So
if
there's
a
third
of
the
people
that
support
it,
this
cannot
move
forward.
So
it
is.
I
It
does
give
you
that
ability
to
oppose
something,
and
only
a
third
of
you
have
to
oppose
it,
and
then
this
bill
cannot
move
forward
on
there
any
grounds
so
I
understand
your
opposition,
and
you
know
we
try
to
be
neutral
in
this
case,
but
there
is
a
process
to
defeat
it.
If
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
you
say
do
not
want
this
and
nobody
knew
about
it.
So
I
think
that's
that's
something.
There
is
also
we're
gonna.
I
A
What
I'd
like
to
do
because
I
know
the
concern
was
raised
about
people
knowing
Miss
Killinger
I,
don't
know,
I
just
want
one
statement
on
how
the
notices
were
sent
out.
Okay,
you
want
to
do
that
if
you
could
just
come
forward
and
put
on
the
record,
because
that
has
been
raised
I
think
of
a
couple.
If
one
of
you
you
could
just
move
for
it,
please
thank
you
and
then
stay
there
in
case.
There's
other
questions
or
concerns.
My.
D
Over
since
the
big
about
the
summer
of
last
year,
we
have
held
for
large
bid
specific
meetings
and
I
would
say
about
four
or
five
smaller
meetings
for
businesses
or
invites
to
their
meetings
our
CEO
meeting
and
we've
hand-delivered
fliers
along
the
entire
area
of
the
boundaries
before
each
one
of
those
meetings.
So
that's
a
total
of
four
four
drops:
five
five:
five
full
area
hand-delivers
for
direct
mail
pieces
to
anyone
that
is
not
in
the
Business
Improvement
District
outside
of
the
packet
mailing.
D
So
that
was
one
before
our
survey,
one
before
our
first
community
meeting
one
before
our
second
community
meeting-
and
we
have
spoke
I-
have
spoken
with
some
folks
here
and
you
know
they
do
recognize.
People
get
a
lot
of
mail.
So
we
understand
that
is
difficult
as
well.
So
that's
for
direct
mail
pieces
for
large
community
meetings
and
then
I've
done
another
two
full
distributions
of
our
budget
and
services
with
the
assessment
rate
and
a
frequently
asked
question
document
that
it
kind
of
addresses
a
lot
of
these
things.
D
I'm
making
notes
I'm
going
to
do
another
one
on
some
of
these
things.
Just
to
clarify
that
we
do
have
board
elections
and
there
is
oversight
and
to
some
of
the
things
that
I
know
that
are
difficult
always
to
to
convey
along
the
way,
because
these
things
are
complicated,
so
I'll
do
another
one
of
those.
So
it's
full
I
want
to
say.
Full
literature
drops
maybe
seven
times
now
between.
K
D
And
I
have
also
collected
support,
ballots
from
every
sort
of
area
of
the
bydd
boundary,
just
as
I
look
at
these
things
to
make
sure
that
I'm
getting
communication
back
and
I'm
getting
attendance
at
meetings
from
all
the
different
areas
of
the
district
east.
Gerard
specifically,
every
time
I
have
been
told
that
there's
an
area
that
maybe
folks
don't
know
kay
just
went
out
on
Friday
again
herself
to
go
talk
to
businesses.
D
You
know
I,
just
I
know
that
folks
get
inundated
with
things
and
that
it's
difficult
for
the
packet
mailing
that
was
actually
that
was
sent
to
every
address
in
the
bid
both
to
the
owner
and
to
a
tenant
325
identified
businesses
as
well
as
another
75
just
tenant.
If
we
weren't
sure
who's
there
sent
to
all
of
the
OPA
mailing
addresses
was
sent
to
the
upstairs
tenants.
I've
had
two
people
come
to
a
meeting.
D
D
The
OPA
mailing
address,
which
and
then
also
have
about
thirty
five
alternative
mailing
addresses
that
I've
found
from
mail
coming
back
as
OPA
mailing
addresses,
aren't
always
perfect,
as
we
know,
so
we
do
our
best
to
look
those
up,
but
I
can
tell
you
I
managed
to
bid
for
eight
years
and
that
takes
sometimes
years
to
find
people
not
addresses,
go
wrong.
I
think
counsel.
F
D
F
So
that
we
because
what's
happening
in
these
neighborhoods
is
real
and
we
need
to
be
sensitive
to
that.
So
so
75
percent
doesn't
get
us
there.
80
percent
doesn't
get
it.
It
really
needs
to
be
90
or
95
percent
to
ensure
that
citizens
who
pay
their
taxes
and
do
the
right
thing
or
not
walked
over
by
anybody
and,
most
importantly
government
and
so
I
need
to
know
what
has
been
the
interface,
the
partnership,
the
coordination,
the
linkage
with
with
the
city
agency.
F
D
Data
that
I
am
provided
is
the
office
of
property
assessment
data
I,
don't
know
any
way
to
get
other
data,
but
I'll
take
it
if
I
can
have
it,
but
like
the
revenue
department,
we're
not
at
we're
not
able
to
get
access
to
that
to
their
mailing
lists
and
to
that
data.
The
only
data
that
we
get
on
our
own
from
the
city
of
Philadelphia
is
from
the
office
of
property
assessments,
because
that
is
how
we
base
everything
off
of
their
valuation
of
these
properties.
D
F
Conversation,
we
all
have
a
lot.
I
have
a
follow-up
you're.
The
professional
and
I
understand
I
started
out
doing
knocking
on
doors,
and
you
know
in
your
face
on
the
front
line
kind
of
activism.
So
so
what
type
of
feedback
do
you
require
of
those
that
you
touch?
Because
that's
where
you
can
only
measure
the
level
of
touching
that
you've
done
so
I
mean?
Is
there
something
in
those
packets
that
say
please
get
back
to
us.
Peace
affirm
that
you
got
it
peace,
I,
don't
know
if
you
that
you're
interested
so.
D
One
thing
that
we
added
before
our
last
before
my
last
effort
at
Creighton,
Business
verba
district,
was
to
add
a
last
final
community
meeting
and
to
tie
it
to
the
packet
drop,
because
you
know
things
that
come
in
the
mail
that
have
the
word
fish
town
on
them.
They
have.
We
have
a
lot
of
our
SEOs
who
have
a
lot
of
things
going
out
all
the
time.
So
they're,
not
always
you
know
in
a
minute
I've
spoken
about
this,
that
you
know
that
I
did
check.
D
Now
Kay
Anderson
from
NK
CDC
is
here.
She
went
out
on
another
quarter:
walk
on
Friday,
so
she's
walked
east
Erard,
the
northern
end
of
Frankfort
Avenue.
Before
we
expanded
our
boundaries
to
Lee,
I
K
went
door-to-door
to
each
one
of
those
businesses
where
she's
worked.
For
you
know
seven
years,
she's
been
within
KCDC,
so
any
time
there's
an
any
sort
of
change
that
we
make
or
any
sort
of
area
that
we
feel
like.
Maybe
we
don't
have
enough
of
the
outreach
done
I'm
not
seeing
like
support
ballots
in
that
area.
D
You
know
we
have
gone
out
in
person
just
to
go
talk
to
people
again.
One
more
flyer
drop
with
our
phone
number
I've
spoken
with
a
lot
of
people.
I
was
on
the
phone
yesterday.
I
mean
people
call
it's
not
that
they're
not
not
getting
the
information,
because
I'm
definitely
talking
with
folks
meeting
with
folks
at
their
businesses
and
between
the
two
of
us.
You
know
we're
pretty
accessible
to
get
to
someone's
place
of
work
in
a
pretty
quick
time,
but.
F
If
that's
helpful
to
know
it
is
important
for
for
citizens
in
that
community
to
know
that
the
level
of
because
it
has
to
be
layered
it
period
you
just
social
media-
doesn't
get
us
there
and
snail
mail
doesn't
get
it
there.
It
really
has
to
be
a
blend
of
the
two
and
in
this
new
world
that
we
live
in.
Yes,.
D
I
mean
we've
had
social
media
we've
had
you
know
we
have
a
website
and
we
have
there's
actually
but
1300
people
come
on
that
website
and
I
checked
in
there
from
Philadelphia.
You
know.
So
we
have
all
those
things
but
I
manage
a
district
for
eight
years,
and
so
I
know
that,
like
paper
in
the
shop
is
usually
the
best
way
to
get
things
to
business
owners
because
it
comes
now
granted
they
get
a
lot
of
paper.
D
But
you
know
that's
why
I'm
always
doing
these
hand
deliveries
into
the
businesses
into
the
place
of
business,
because
that
just
tends
to
often
just
be
the
thing
that
they
see
the
most.
But
when
I
don't
know
last
week
was
in
full
color
our
budget,
our
assessment
rate,
the
phone
numbers
on
there,
the
websites
on
there
I've
really
just
done
my
best
and
I'm
gonna.
Do
one
more
I'm
gonna
try
to
answer
some
of
the
questions
that
were
brought
up
today,
because
obviously,
there's
still
time
for
people
to
object
very.
F
D
F
A
H
Know
this
day,
never
I
live
right
next
door
to
Johnny
Brenda's
and
not
one
person
has
ever
come
and
just
recently
the
it's
it's
we've
come
to
find
out
that
this
group
is
working
towards
the
2%
tax
on
a
property.
They
didn't
say
that
before
the
whole
two
years,
not
until
just
recently
now
we're
finding
out
oh
well,
they're
they're,
not
just
going
around
and
talking
people
saying
we
want
to
be
doing
this
and
this
for
your
community.
They
never
once
say
we're
gonna.
Would
you
like
your
tax
raised?
H
A
Want
to
marry
oh
ho
ho
ho,
please
not
everybody
could
talk.
At
the
same
time,
we
gave
everybody
a
chance
to
speak.
I'm
gonna,
give
one
more
panel
and
mam
really,
because
then
somebody
else
I
want
to
speak
one
more
paddle
the
chance
to
speak
briefly.
Okay,
I
want
everybody
to
be
brief,
and
then
we
got.
I
G
I
G
A
45.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
All
right.
We
got
four
people
and
I'm
really
asking
you
to
be
brief.
Really
brief,
please
all
right,
because
the
the
folks
have
presented
the
case
already,
but
I'm,
giving
you
a
chance.
Just
alright
I
see
three
coming
up.
Is
that
it
one
more
one
more
come
on
up
one
more
one
more!
Thank
you
not
six
or
seven,
because
otherwise
we're
gonna
have
a
back-and-forth
and
that's
not
fair
to
people.
Okay,
please
identify
yourself
and
proceed
hi.
A
F
Facts
are
that
this
organization
is
a
elected
organization.
People
are
elected.
That
means
you
volunteer.
I,
guess
that
the
people
who
were
not
here
who
didn't
know
about
it
purposely
did
not
choose
to
volunteer
their
time
to
support
this
organization
to
support
this
neighborhood.
This
neighborhood
needs
support
and
they
need
time
councilman
Brown.
They
need
to
put
energy
forth
people
who
are
not
paying
attention
who
are
not
volunteering,
their
time
who
are
not
going
to
meetings
who
are
not
we
opening
their
mail
and
receiving
it.
I
am
a
recipient
of
those
mailings.
F
We
absolutely
need
the
support
of
people
like
myself,
who
have
been
volunteering
for
many
years
in
the
Fishtown
area.
To
make
this
a
better
place.
I
spend
the
time
I
clean
the
streets
with
the
26th
district
I
go
to
meetings,
I,
take
my
own
free
time
to
be
informed
and
I
think
that
that
should
count
more
for
than
people
who
don't
read,
who
don't
care?
Who
don't
spend
time
to
these
meetings
and
I
really
think
I
should
be
allowed.
This
well.
A
E
The
sustainable
business
network
and
neighborhood
projects
such
as
the
South
Kensington
community
partners,
outdoor
dinner
for
300
on
American
Street,
along
with
assisting
kenzan,
Kappa
and
other
organizations
as
needed,
I'm,
proud
to
say
the
26th
precinct
recently
honored
feast
your
eyes
at
their
most
recent
annual
gala
for
our
work
with
them
and
the
community
relations
officers
for
over
20
years.
Not
quite
three
years
ago,
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
held
their
most
successful
event
ever
that
was
held
outside
of
Center
City.
It
was
held
in
our
place
at
front
and
Palmer.
E
We
saw
this
as
a
sign
of
what
was
to
come
for
the
fish
town
Kensington
area.
Until
then,
our
neighborhood
was
viewed
as
outer
Siberia
by
the
business
community,
and
now
we
were
part
of
an
expanded
center
city,
as
fish
town
and
surrounding
neighborhoods
have
exploded
in
popularity.
That's
only
become
more
true,
as
Philadelphia
works
be
to
bring
the
economic
vitality
of
Center
City
to
outlying
neighborhoods.
E
It's
important
that
neighborhoods,
like
ours,
be
able
to
invest
in
improving
their
future
and
that's
what
this
bid
will
do
for
fish
town,
Kensington
area
and,
of
course,
we
supported
a
Business
Improvement
District
does
much
more
than
just
keep
the
streets
clean,
of
course,
but
as
reflected
in
our
proposed
budget,
it's
top
of
the
project
list
not
only
with
anis
at
will.
An
established
bid
make
a
difference
in
the
physical
condition
of
our
district,
but
visible
bid.
E
Workers
cleaning
the
streets
will
also
create
a
positive
sense
of
community,
along
with
the
proposed
plans
for
street
furniture,
neighborhood,
branding
and
special
event
coordination,
it's
to
our
advantage
of
front
and
Palmer
to
have
clean
streets
for
guests
to
drive
down
on
their
way
to
us,
but
more
than
that,
we
believe
thriving
communities,
neighborhoods
that
are
both
self-sustaining
with
a
ride.
Variety
with
a
wide
variety
of
businesses
serving
local
residents
and
an
attraction
to
visitors,
our
benefit
to
Philadelphia.
Overall,
the
Fishtown
Kensington
area
bid
will
help
make
this
happen.
E
We
are
committed
to
helping
this
effort
succeed
now
and
as
the
bid
does
its
work
in
the
years
to
come,
loon
and
I
appreciate
the
assistance
provided
by
council
president
Clark
Councilwoman
kono,
Sanchez,
councilman
schoola
and
their
staff
and
request
your
support
in
authorizing
the
Fishtown
kensington
area
bit.
You'll
have
my
full
testimony.
Desmond
thank.
A
You
that
may
be
part
of
the
record.
Thank
you
very
much
and
let
me
just
say
the
people
who
other
people
that
wanted
to
speak.
If
you
just
put
your
name
in
or
and
if
you
have
any
written
comments,
they
will
also
be
part
of
the
record,
but
again
we're
trying
to
move
this
process
along
ma'am.
If
you
could
take
one
of
these
seats
up
here
and
ma'am
you,
you,
please
state
your
name
and
proceed.
Please
good!.
D
Morning,
chairman
Greenlee
and
members
of
the
Rules
Committee
I'm
Bianca
D
Petra
I'm,
the
owner
of
toile
on
Frankford
Ave
I,
am
a
small
retail
store.
I've
been
open
over
six
years
now,
I've
been
living
in
Fishtown
for
12
years,
I
feature
all
local
designers
and
I
can
probably
say
I'm
one
of
the
smallest
businesses
in
Fishtown
and
I
highly
support
the
bid,
mainly
because
we
are
trying
we've
been
trying
for
many
years
to
do
so.
Many
things
that
are
just
not
able
to
get
done.
D
I
work,
15
hour
days,
I
run
everything
by
myself,
so
taking
four
hours
to
come
here
today.
It's
actually
hurting
my
business,
but
that's
how
important
it
is
for
me
and
for
a
lot
of
other
small
business
owners
that
we
actually
get.
This
done
just
hurry
iterate
to
anyone
who
has
questions
about
it,
residents
do
not
get
taxed.
This
is
solely
business
owners
and
commercial
properties.
So
I
understand
it's
very
heated
and
I
apologize
for
everyone
getting
very
upset,
but
it's
a
passionate
we're.
A
D
D
We
can't
country
like
the
bid
again
is
not
something
that
controls
the
development
of
the
area.
Obviously,
the
development
and
bursting
development
in
Fishtown
is
a
hot
topic
right
now,
but
this
is
to
ensure
that
all
the
development
that
happens
is
being
put
to
a
good
use
and
taking
care
of
the
area.
I
mean
old
city
centre
city,
head
house
district.
They
all
have
bids
that
help
the
areas
and
Fishtown
deserves
that
same
opportunity.
I
think
a
big
part
that
concerns
me
is
retail
retention
and
recruitment
for
the
area.
D
We
have
a
lot
of
vacant
spaces
right
now
and
having
a
bid
will
really
help
bring
quality
businesses
to
the
area
and
there's
a
lot
of
small,
independently
owned
businesses,
just
like
myself
but,
like
I,
said
I'm
a
one-woman
run
business
and
there's
only
so
many
things
I
can
do
in
an
hour
in
the
hours
of
the
day,
and
the
bid
would
definitely
help
out
myself
as
well
as
a
lot
of
other
business
owners
in
Fishtown.
Ok,
thank
you
very.
B
My
name
is
Stephanie
Lee
Ryan
I
am
co-owner
of
Joe's
stakes
and
soda
shop
in
Fishtown
and
I
am
in
full
support
of
this
bid.
I
started
out
at
our
original
location
about
15
years
ago
that
shop
opened
up
in
1949
and
business
was,
you
know
great
in
the
40s
50s
60s
70s,
even
the
80s,
but
I
watched
firsthand.
B
What
could
happen
to
a
neighborhood
without
their
support
and
services
that
a
bid
could
offer
I
watched
the
neighbourhood,
diminish
small
businesses
closed
down
and
leave
the
unlived
even
the
the
post
office
and
the
deli
and
the
florists
just
the
neighborhood?
It
lost
a
lot
of
residents
and
in
turn,
the
corridor
lost
a
lot
of
its
businesses.
B
I'm
just
here
to
say,
I
think
the
bid
is
a
really
good
thing
for
the
neighborhood
of
Fishtown,
with
the
increase
in
traffic,
especially
on
the
weekends.
Just
the
cleaning
and
the
safety
measures
that
bid
would
offer
would
just
take
a
lot
of
take
a
lot
off
our
shoulders
as
small
business
owners
just
to
help
to
keep
the
neighborhood
clean
and
safe
and
keep
keep
the
momentum
going,
but
in
in
a
safe
way
where
it
helps
everyone
residents
and
business
owners
alike.
Thank.
A
You
very
much
thank
you,
okay,
just
to
reiterate
for
for
people
who
have
opposition
of
this
councilman
correct
me
from
all
45
days
to
communicate
to
the
chief
clerk
from
402
City
Hall
any
opposition
to
this
okay.
So
that's
the
law,
that's
I
believe
the
state
regulation.
So
you
have
time
to
do
that.
So
again,
I
appreciate
everybody
else.
Coming
down.
D
D
Is
also
available
on
the
homepage
of
our
website,
fish
towns
champion
org
and
there's
a
button
about
a
says,
objection
in
the
button
for
the
cover
letter
that
was
sent
out
in
the
packet.
Anyone
can
also
contact
me.
My
cards
are
here:
I'll
give
them
out.
I
can
explain
you
can
ask
anyone.
That's
called
I
explained
thoroughly
the
objection
process,
so
I
want
everyone
to
be
well-informed.
Our.
D
A
B
Bill
number
one:
nine:
zero,
six;
six;
zero;
an
ordinance
establishing
a
neighborhood
Improvement
District
to
be
known
as
the
South
Philly
Market
District
in
an
area
that
generally
includes
both
sides
of
South,
9th
Street
from
the
south
side
of
hits
border
streets
in
the
north
side
of
Federal
Street.
Both
sides
of
Christian
Street
from
west
side
of
South,
7th
Street
to
ISA
east
side
of
South
10th
Street.
Both
sides
of
montrose
Street
from
South,
8th
Street
to
South
10th
Street.
Both
sides
of
carpenter
street
from
South,
8th
Street
to
South
10th
Street.
B
Both
sides
of
Washington
Avenue
from
west
side
of
South,
8th
Street
to
east
side
of
South
11th
Street.
Both
sides
of
L
Wharf
Street
from
East
Passyunk
Avenue
to
South
10th
Street.
Both
sides
of
East
Passyunk
Avenue
from
south
side
of
Washington
Avenue
to
Northside
of
Federal
Street.
Both
sides
of
South
10th
Street
from
the
south
side
of
Christian
streets
to
the
north
side
of
Ellsworth
Street.
Both
sides
to
South,
8th
Street
between
the
south
side
of
Christian
Street
and
the
north
side
of
carpenter,
Street
in
between
the
south
side
of
Washington
Avenue.
B
A
Before
we
start
with,
these,
two
witnesses
looks
like
there's
a
lot
of
people
opposed
here
about
how
many
people
want
to
speak
in
opposition
to
this.
Well.
Okay,
all
right!
We're
gonna
try
to
cut
that
down
a
little
bit.
Who
is
here
other
than
here
to
speak
in
support?
Are
there
any
other
people
speaking
and
support?
Okay,
here's
whatever
it
is
similar
to
what
we
did
last
time?
Okay,
because
I
know
after
a
while
people
basically
say
the
same
thing,
we'll
have
two
panels,
one
in
favor,
one
opposed.
A
Okay,
you
could
pick
four
people
on
both
sides:
okay,
four
people,
those
of
you
who
don't
get
a
chance
to
testify.
Personally,
please
get
your
name
in
to
me
or
to
two
councilmen.
They
will
be
made
part
of
the
record
if
you
have
any
written
testimony
either
way.
That
would
also
be
part
of
the
record.
A
I
And
also
I
just
want
to
state
for
the
record
that
and
we
had
the
bid
go
out
throughout
the
dish
council
and
throughout
votes.
Some
are
supported.
Some
are
opposed.
Some
pass
some
fail
and
we
just
want
to
make
sure
if
we
can
just
keep
it
as
calm
as
possible
and
as
respectful
as
possible.
Even
though
you're
upset
or
you're
you're
opposed
or
supportive,
we
don't.
We
don't
want
to
go
back
and
forth
like
we
did
last
time
with
actually
making
it
personal.
That's.
A
J
Morning,
mr.
chairman
and
members
of
City
Council,
my
name
is
Dennis
Murphy
I'm,
the
director
of
corridor
development
with
the
Department
of
Commerce
I'm,
here
to
testify
regarding
bill,
one,
nine,
zero,
six,
six,
zero
establishing
a
Business
Improvement
District
called
the
South
Philly
Market
District
to
serve
the
area
in
and
around
the
ninth
Street
Market
creation
of
bids
is
in
keeping
with
our
department's
support
of
business
and
property
owner
led
efforts
to
improve
the
environment
within
their
areas.
J
Over
the
past
year,
property
owners
within
the
proposed
bid
have
worked
as
a
steering
committee
to
explore,
creating
a
bid.
The
result
is
today's
legislation,
including
their
five-year
plan.
9Th
Street
is
a
unique
destination
that
serves
neighbors
shoppers
from
throughout
the
city
and
tourists.
The
shared
challenges
of
trash
parking
and
blight
and
the
appearance
of
the
area
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
bids
are
often
organized
to
to
address.
J
These
kinds
of
challenges
are
best
addressed
in
a
coordinated
and
cooperative
way
and
a
bit
as
one
proven
way
to
do
that
long
term
and
consistent
attention
to
conditions
within
the
ninth
Street
area
will
be
key
to
maintaining
this
unique
area
into
the
future
in
other
areas
of
the
city.
Creating
a
bid
has
provided
tremendous
benefits
to
small
business
owners
due
to
the
advocacy
and
the
staff
attention
that
a
bid
can
provide.
This
effort
deserves
your
consideration.
Thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
you
may
Thank.
Q
Q
My
name
is
Vern
Anastasio
and
I
chair
the
volunteer
committee
proposing
the
South
Philly
Market
Improvement
District.
We
started
this
process
about
18
months
ago,
but
in
fact,
it's
10
years
in
the
making
it
was
first
floated
in
2009.
Subsequently,
there
was
a
grant
in
2010,
I
believe
and
then
2016
the
bid
was
proposed.
It
did
not
succeed
with
about
34%
of
the
property
owners
at
the
time
in
opposition.
So
what
we
did
18
months
ago
is
speak
to
most
of
those
folks
who
were
in
opposition
and
we've
revised.
Q
Our
plan
I
understand
that
there
are
folks
here
who
are
in
opposition
as
well
as
support.
There
are
440
affected
properties
based
on
the
surveys.
We
have
done
there's
less
than
50
folks
who
opposed
this
plan
today.
Let
me
speak
to
you
about
how
we
did
our
outreach,
because
I
think
that's
most
important.
Q
To
date,
we
have
held
for
large
community-wide
meetings
for
impacted
property
owners,
those
with
living
within
the
district.
We
made
available
translation
services
and
free
child
care.
We
also
mailed
the
full
district
plan
and
added
an
additional
8
separate
pieces
of
material
in
several
languages.
To
all
impacted
property
owners,
we
also
sent
a
separate
mailing
of
each
address
and
the
amount
of
dues
the
owner
would
pay
into
the
district
plan,
so
that
was
never
a
hidden
number.
Q
We
employed
canvassers
district
ambassadors
leaflet
droppers
many
in
several
languages
languages
we
hosted
a
luncheon
exclusively
for
the
Asian
property
owners
and
merchants.
We
dispatched
spanish-speaking
volunteers
to
engage
spanish-speaking
owners,
shopkeeper
shopkeepers
to
personally
engage
them
and
I
as
I
deliver
this
testimony.
This
morning
to
members
of
my
staff
are
distributing
additional
Flyers
to
the
street
and
will
continue
to
do
mailing
to
educate
as
many
people
as
we
can
about
the
prompt
the
plan
itself.
The
entire
plan
is
also
available
at
South
Philly
vidcom
and
has
been
for
quite
some
time.
Q
The
plan
has
been
changed
based
on
the
opponents
of
2016
and
their
input.
As
a
result
of
that
meeting,
we
have
first
over
the
course
of
five
years,
we're
going
to
invest
over
a
half
a
million
dollars
in
direct
physical
improvements
to
real
estate.
That's
owned
by
the
paying
paying
members
who
fund
the
district,
dozens
of
boarded
up
properties
and
blighted
commercial
and
residential
properties
will
be
transformed.
Many
more
will
benefit
from
connecting
with
existing
municipal
programs
to
improve
their
facades.
Q
All
properties
will
be
brighter
safer
by
lighting
up
the
dark
places
and
installation
of
security
cameras.
Dozens
of
dead
inactive
vacant
curb
stands
plots
and
other
areas
will
finally
be
activated
and
beautified
with
the
money.
Secondly,
over
$400,000
will
be
invested
in
addressing
the
decades-old
dilemma
of
litter
and
commercial
trash
management
along
the
service
areas.
Q
Today,
we're
not
Fishtown.
Today,
the
area
is
littered
with
blight,
boarded
up
windows
empty
storefronts.
Almost
every
month,
another
business
closes
falling
fences,
litter
trash
vacancy
fill
are
almost
everywhere
today,
blight
and
garbage
outnumber
shoppers
and
visitors.
Most
days
of
the
week,
116
years
ago,
folks
took
big
steps,
took
risks
and
came
to
that
area.
Q
The
second
generation,
the
members
of
the
greatest
generation,
their
children,
took
a
local
market
and
made
it
nationally
known.
The
third
generation
tried
their
best,
but
we're
too
timid
supermarkets
and
malls
ended
up
dominating
the
scene
and
walk
9th
Street.
Today,
it's
a
patient
on
life
support
today.
The
fourth
generation
now
sits
before
you.
We
are
now
ready,
willing
and
able
to
take
the
big
risks
and
make
the
gigantic
leaps
of
faith
to
turn
the
tide
and
make
the
improvements
so
desperately
needed.
Q
A
A
Scene,
three:
four
wait:
wait,
wait
what
four
people,
sir
for
work
it
out
with
yourselves!
Okay
I,
want
to
be
fair
to
everybody
and
for
any
supporters,
same
number,
no
more!
Okay!
So
please,
whoever
like
to
start!
Please
speak
right
in
the
microphone,
identify
identify
yourself
for
a
record
in
bed
asleep,
sir.
My.
M
We
are
opposed
to
the
bid
program
as
we
were
in
2016,
because
we
don't
feel
that
it's
really
going
to
help
us
and
I
would
also
like
to
say
that
us
us
that
are
opposed
to
it,
realize
that
whoever
is
for
it.
We
respect
that,
but
we
also
want
them
to
respect
the
fact
that
we're
opposed
to
it,
because
we
don't
feel
like
it's
going
to
do
us.
M
You
know
any
good
that
what
it's
going
to
cost
and
as
far
as
as
the
opposition
councilman
squirrel
has
said
that
we
need
30%
or
30-some
percent
of
the
vote
to
oppose
it.
We
have
that
I
had
that
mark
that
right
here
in
my
bag,
I
have
50%
that
opposed,
and
you
know
by
the
time
these
45
days
go
by
we're
going
to
have
much
more
we're
shooting
for
like
70%
opposition
to
this,
so
I
mean
that's.
All
I
got
to
sell.
A
R
Yes,
it's
already
afternoon
city
councils
and
good
afternoon,
everyone,
the
home
owners
affected
by
the
proposed
of
the
bill,
one
nine,
zero,
six,
six,
zero
extrapolation
or
neighborhood
Improvement
District
to
be
known
as
the
South
Philly
Market
District,
Business,
Improvement
District,
but
strongly
opposed
to
increase
in
taxes.
We
are
composed
of
nearly
a
hundred
sixty
residents,
businesses
and
property
owners
working
together
to
ensure
we
are
not
burdened
by
additional
taxes
for
the
area
which
may
prevent
growth
in
the
community.
R
We
are
writing
to
express
our
appreciation
for
Bill
number
one,
nine,
zero,
six,
six,
zero
and
believe
individual
businesses
should
be
responsible
for
their
advertising
promotions.
Appearance
looks
and
their
trashed
adopting
a
bit
in
Phillips
South
Philly
should
require
the
approval
of
80
percents
of
individual
property
owners
and
commercial
properties.
This
high
approval
threats
law
would
ensure
the
community
approves
of
the
changes
and
will
not
tear
the
community.
Apart
this
bid
proposal.
R
Information
should
be
translated
into
Chinese
and
Vietnamese
to
ensure
the
Asian
American
community
is
fully
informed
of
the
effects
of
this
bill
in
the
South
Philly
area.
It
is
critical
that
a
bit
do
not
bankrupts
home
owners
and
lose
their
home,
who
are
retired
veterans
who
have
fixed
that
income
with
severe
medical
conditions
if
they
are
to
create
a
successful,
diverse
urban
community.
R
We
strongly
oppose
the
passions
bill
of
number
one:
nine
zero,
six
six
zero,
because
it
would
not
help
their
to
facility
facilitate
economic
development,
but
would
one
displaced,
local
businesses
and
home
owners
suffer
as
large
competitors
start
opening
shops
to
remove
community-focused
culture
and
safety
nets
and
three
put
undue
financial
burdens
on
the
community.
Thank
you
in
advance
for
opposing
bill.
One:
nine:
zero,
six,
six!
Zero!
If
you
have
any
questions,
please
feel
free
to
contact
us.
Thank.
A
R
T
Name
is
Barry,
will
n
ski
I'm,
a
third
generation
business
owner
on
passion,
calves
new
in
the
area-
that's
proposed
first
off
I,
want
to
thank
the
councilman
and
I
want
to
thank
fern
for
their
ambitious
efforts
to
move
this
forward.
However,
on
ending
marketing
plan
you
should
see
if
there's
a
need
for
it
and
that
step
has
been
omitted
for
three
tries.
So
far.
T
Furthermore,
is
a
small
business
man.
The
city
is
already
in
my
pocket
for
at
least
eight
different
licenses
and
fees.
I
understand
this
doesn't
go
to
the
city.
Vern
just
mentioned
that
it's
dues.
Well,
if
it's
dues
I,
don't
want
to
join
I,
can't
say
it
any
more
than
that.
I
have
a
question
in
terms
of
we're
allowed
to
send
a
letter
to
the
clerk
I
believe
some
letters
have
been
sent.
Is
there
a
file
that
we
can
see
of?
Who
has
opposed
this?
At
this
point,.
I
A
R
I
T
I
T
I
E
T
I
Except
point
of
information
when
people
are
opposed
to
something
they
come
out
when
people
are
in
opposition,
they
vote
when
they
don't
like
you,
they
vote
or
they
problem
for
somebody
against
them.
Opposition
is
easier
garnered
than
support
if
people
support
something
they
say,
I
supported
on
they're,
not
going
to
send
a
letter
of
support.
But
when
you
oppose
something
believe
me
I
know
we
get
a
ton
of
emails
if
you're
opposed
to
something
we
know
about
it.
All.
A
S
Afternoon
Castleman
chairman
Greenlee
Testament
Brown
and
a
customer
at
school.
First
I
would
like
to
thank
Castleman
scholar
that
have
open
general
communication
and
guide
us
through
the
process
of
this
bill.
So
we
try
to
communicate
with
the
sponsors
of
the
bill
in
the
beginning
and
basically,
after
all
the
effort,
average
and
communicate
and
basically
now
we
have
to
come
here
to
her
conclusion
that
we
had
to
object
the
bill
to
create
the
South
Philly
market,
which
you.
I
S
So
first
the
South
Philly
market
is
not
for
the
market.
I
just
want
to
make
clear
that
that
is
discriminating
and
secretaries.
The
neighborhood
I
mean
that,
because
the
bill
strip
of
the
power
of
creating
the
market
from
the
street
vendor,
they
have
no
say
about
the
bill.
Why
they
are
a
big
contribution.
Factor
of
that
neighborhood
can.
S
And
the
second
one
is
basically
is
the
target,
the
rental
property
owner,
because
they
basically
they
not
create
the
market.
They
a
silo,
and
basically
the
bill
tried
to
I
can
say-
is
robbed
the
money
from
these
property
owner
to
create
a
budget
that
you
have
right
now
for
$450,000,
okay,
they
are
not
part
of
the
market
and
they
have
no
benefit
of
very
minimal
benefit
about
the
service
from
there
and
that's
why
I
raised
the
issues
with
the
sponsor
from
day
one.
S
Should
we
pay
for
the
service
that
we
don't
need
and
that's
why
these
people
here
is
a
no
and
beside
the
assessment
fee
is
basically
a
real
15
to
20
percent
of
the
property
tax.
On
top
of
that,
this
put
the
hardship
to
this
property
owner,
and
the
problem
of
the
whole
thing
is:
basically,
you
create
a
budget
big
enough,
so
you
can
extract
more
money
and
the
surface
is
basically
is
either
useless.
We
don't
need
it
I,
already
duplicate
in
that
year.
Marketing
event,
you
really
have
the
Italian
market
association,
creative
element
event.
S
They
already
have
average.
You
have
marketing
everything
while
you
pay
for
money
to
do
something
already:
people
ready
D.
This
is
waste
money.
Why
you
do
that.
So
that's
why
I
say
is
the
whole
thing
at
the
lies.
Allow
you
to
create
a
bit,
but
how
you
proceed
with
that
is.
A
big
flaw
is
abused.
That
is
our
opinion
and
beside
the
process
of
the
bit
is
a
big
flaw
to
public,
meaning
notice.
S
Okay,
how
many
people
show
up
one
one
person
is
me
that
is
in
fact
property.
No
one
else.
So
don't
tell
me
that
they
like
the
previous
bill.
Oh
they
go
to
each
house.
They
they
sent
out
everything
whatever
they
have
I,
don't
know.
If
they
have
it,
I
don't
know
if
they
know
it,
some
of
the
notice
are
not
even
receive
it.
My
neighbors
say:
hey:
do
you
receive
the
notice?
I
S
I
S
You
and-
and
furthermore
is
basically
the
plan
is
big
flaw.
Nobody
see
the
plan.
The
plan
is
never
published
until
last
month.
Okay,
nobody
know
it
and
I
mentioned
too
that
several
time
I
come
from
with
the
sponsor
I
say
you
don't
have
the
plan
I
request.
Personally,
the
plan
go
to
public
meeting
say:
please
send
me
a
plan,
no
response,
why
they
hide
the
plan.
What
the
high
on
this
information,
the
I
which
they
sent
our
I,
receive
it.
S
You
know
what
they
said:
no
tax
increase.
That's
this
information.
They
never
mentioned
about
assessment
fee
on
top
of
the
tax,
another
15-20
percent
of
the
tax.
This
is
what
kind
information
they
sent
out
to
the
public.
That
is
the
problem
so
that
the
whole
process,
the
whole
flaw
is,
is
a
big
problem.
S
A
A
L
Name
is
Chris
fit
Vatsa
Simon
affected
property
owner
and
the
business
owner
in
South,
Philly,
I
own
and
Hawthorne's
I
was
asked
I,
actually
volunteered
my
time
to
support
this.
This
bid
for
the
neighborhood
and
I'm
actually
proud
to
stand
next
to
very
influential
people
who
support
the
bid,
who
are
smart,
intelligent
people,
who's,
forward-thinking,
people
such
as
Marc
Vetri
such
as
Amelia
who
owned
properties.
They
took
a
risk.
You
know
they
started
off
a
little
tiny
market
and
you
know
now
they're
a
national
player.
L
It's
just
you
know
you
sit
here
and
you
sit
and
you
listen
to
Fishtown
wanting
to
create
a
bid
and
there's
tremendous
momentum
and
fish
down
and
they
want
to
keep
the
momentum.
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
the
time
market
has
zero
momentum.
We're
trying
to
keep
it
alive.
I
just
was
informed
today
that
another
corner
is
dropping
on
9th
Street
and
other
businesses.
Closing
Monceau,
ninth
and
Christian
closed
iconic
property
right
there.
It
then
survived
it
closed
golden
golden
donut
just
heard
today
close
another
corner.
L
These
corners
are
dropped
in
the
Italian
mark
and
there's
none.
There
needs
to
be
somebody
to
defend
it.
There
needs
a,
but
you
need
to
be
a
group
to
organize
it.
There
needs
to
be
someone
who
puts
effort
behind
this
national
treasure.
It's
truly
a
national
treasure
one
that
is
when
you
see
people
walk
down
the
street.
You
see
confusion
on
their
faces.
Tourists.
Siddhant
tourism
is
a
big
aspect
to
the
city's
revenue
right
now
and
they
come
down.
They
see
the
Italian
market
and
they
walk
and
they're
ashamed.
L
We
should
be
ashamed
of
what
we're
putting
out
there
for
these
people
to
see
what
we're
doing
so,
it's
nice
that
we
have
actually
people
standing
up
and
want
to
defend
what
it
is.
You
know
they
opened
up,
the
opposition
opened
up
and,
and
that
was
nice.
It
was
appreciate
that
there
is
a
mutual
respect
we
have
for
the
opposition
that
we
want
to
bridge
the
gap.
There
is
not
a
line,
there's
not
there's
not
a
segregation
we
want
to.
L
We
we
want
to
bring
everyone
along
with
it,
and
so
that
was
nice
to
hear
that.
So
we
do
appreciate
the
side.
We
hope
that
they
appreciate
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
we're
trying
to
we're
trying
to
grow
it.
We're
trying
have
people
live
above
the
story.
We're
trying
to
have
people
feel
safe,
walking
around
at
nighttime,
and
you
can
only
do
that
with
human
activity.
Humans
want
to
walk
around
where
they
feel
safe,
where
it's
clean,
where
it's
presentable,
where
it's
attractive
and
frankly,
it's
not
so
I
sit
here.
L
Proudly
representing
myself,
representing
the
positive
of
the
Italian
market.
The
neighborhood
of
the
Italian
market
and
I
hope
that
there
was
a
lot
of
people
who
come
out
and
support.
It
and
I
hope
that
the
the
detractors
do
understand
that
there's
good
intention
here
and
that
it
is
immediately
impacted.
The
city
will
raise
taxes.
There's
a
plastic
banned
plastic
tax
going
around
the
soda
tax
going
around
that
doesn't
come
directly
to
the
market.
What
we're
proposing
is
directly
to
the
market,
so
we
hope
that
there
are
some
forward
thinkers
in
the
opposition.
L
O
A
Q
You
I
am
Anthony
Anastasio
I
am
the
owner
of
Anthony's
Italian
coffee
house
for
the
last
25
years.
I
am
the
fourth
generation
of
the
anestachio
family,
both
living
and
working
on
the
market.
Over
the
last
decade,
many
business
leaders
on
the
market
have
been
working
with
the
city
to
improve
our
relationships
and
help
improve
our
marketplace.
Q
Unfortunately,
the
market
continues
to
experience
numerous
changes
and
challenges,
and
we
have
been
watching
many
of
the
other
neighboring
districts
around
us
thrive.
They
all
have
one
common
denominator:
that
common
denominator
is
a
Business
Improvement
District
the
creation
for
the
creation
of
a
bid
for
ninth
Street,
but
allow
the
opportunity
for
us
to
supplement
the
city
services
through
cleaner
streets.
There,
improving
safety
in
our
community
at
large,
while
continuing
to
eliminate,
while
working
to
commit
to
continue
to
help
the
blighted
situation
and
the
abandoned
properties.
Q
Our
vision
supports,
creating
more
open
space
and
a
more
friendly,
vibrant
and
sustainable
business
district
now
and
for
the
next
generation.
I
understand
that
there
is
opposition
and
people
feel
fear
change,
but
a
majority
of
the
business
and
property
owners
do
support
the
community
efforts
to
improve
9th
Street
through
the
creation
of
a
bit.
Thank
you.
T
T
The
Bruno
brothers
we
have
businesses
located
in
other
bids,
around
Philadelphia
around
filled
up
and
outside
the
area,
I
see
and
realize
the
value
of
a
bid
firsthand
how
it's
helped
business
districts,
and
you
know,
businesses
that
could
have
potentially
you
know
going
on
there
and
closed
and
failed
and
help
them
turn
around
as
an
entrepreneur.
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
a
real
big
fan
of
just
leaving
my
fate
to
chance.
T
I'd
like
to
do
as
much
as
I
can
to
help
increase
the
odds
to
be
successful,
and
in
order
to
be
successful
business
district
in
South
Philly.
We
need
to
help
ourselves
to
help
the
city
be
able
to
help
us
remain
viable.
I.
Think
a
bid
is
one
of
the
few
ways
to
do
this.
You
need
the
ability
to
be
able
to
be
a
better
district,
not
just
for
the
businesses
in
the
market,
but
for
the
customers
that
come
through
the
market
and
for
the
neighbors
that
live
in
the
area.
T
I,
don't
know
if
everybody
knows
this
in
our
area,
but
our
two
churches,
st.
Paul's
and
st.
Mary's,
are
at
risk
of
closing
and
and
we
will
have
you
know,
we
will
lose
two
more
churches
and
we
heard
that
earlier
today,
from
Paul
stanky,
so
I
don't
know
I'm
trying
to
do
all
that
I
can
to
help
the
business
district
in
the
area,
and
hopefully
we
get
this
thing
passed
so
that
the
market
can
survive.
Thank.
J
Hi,
my
name
is
lou
zener,
I'm
a
long-term
property
owner
in
the
italian
market.
I
purchased
a
property
fifteen
years
ago
that
had
a
clothing
store
on
the
ground
floor
and
had
it
a
vacant
apartment
above
it
I
renovated
the
apartment,
reactivated
the
dormant
space
and
that
kept
the
same
tenant
who
was
in
the
clothing
store
he's
been
there
for
fifteen
years.
J
You
know
recent
years
he's
had
to
go
down
to
just
operating
the
store
on
the
weekend
and
taking
a
full
time
job
during
the
week,
because
there's
just
not
the
not
the
traffic
and
on
the
street
anymore.
I've
seen
the
place
when
I
bought
a
fifteen
years
ago.
I
thought
there's
so
much
potential
here
in
the
Italian
market.
J
Fifteen
years
later,
I'm
here
basically
saying
the
same
thing,
there's
so
much
potential
if
we
could
just
harness
some
kind
of
support
and
I
think
the
Business
Improvement
District
is
the
best
way
forward
in
that
respect,
because
for
small
business
owners
they
already
wear
a
lot
of
hats.
They
can't
wear
these
additional
hats
of
you
know:
keeping
everything
clean
of
creating
a
cohesive
marketing
plan
to
promote
the
entire
corridor.
J
I
think
for
the
cost
of
the
bid
to
the
property
owners,
it's
a
very
small
investment
and
it's
more
than
worth
taking
a
chance
if,
if
it
doesn't
work
out
the
provision,
sunsets
and
I
think
as
far
it's
kind
of
a
last
stand
for
the
for
the
market.
There's
some
businesses
that
have
been
doing
really
well
they're
always
going
to
do
well.
There's
a
lot
of
businesses
that
are
struggling.
It
could
really
benefit
from
the
services
that
the
bid
would
offer.
Thank
you.
I
I
just
like
to
make
a
comment
and
thanks
everybody
for
coming
out
to
testify.
We
really
appreciate
the
time
and
efforts
who
know
it's
not
easy
to
sit
here
all
day
and
to
listen
to
this.
But
what
we
will
do
want
to
do
is
boy,
as
you
know,
Vern,
to
try
to
work
with
people
in
the
opposition
and
Rene
to
try
to
work
with
the
people.
I
The
opposition,
to
see,
if
there's
any
middle
ground
that
you
could
come
up
with
as
people
are
starting
to
vote,
I
mean
you
try
to
give
one
of
you
did
live
together.
You
work
together.
You
want
to
try
to
get
along
together
if
possible.
If
not,
the
democratic
process
will
play
out,
and
you
know
once
the
votes
are
tallied,
we
will
it.
People
know
whether
it
would
move
forward
or
not.
So
you
know
good
work
to
everybody
who's
been
here
today
and
then
we
know
there's
a
lot
of
passion
out
there.
I
B
Bill
number
one:
nine,
zero,
five:
five
one:
an
ordinance
to
amend
the
Philadelphia's;
only
masks
by
changing
zoning
designation
to
certain
areas
at
land
with
an
area
bounded
by
barring
Street,
Saunders,
Avenue
house
and
Avenue
38th
Street
Filbert,
Street,
Sloane,
Street,
Pelton,
Avenue
and
39th
Street,
all
under
certain
terms
and
conditions.
Mr.
A
Gorsky
before
you
start,
if
I
could
ask
people
after
you're
leaving
the
hearing
is
still
going
on,
please
leave
quietly
then
in
the
hallway.
You
can
talk
about
anything.
You
want.
Okay
and
you're,
obviously
not
listening
to
me.
Please,
let's
go
Thank
You
mr.
Gorsky
and
I
we
have
mr.
Russell
is
that
is
that
him
coming
okay,
fine
and
then
again
try
to
set
the
ground
rules,
as
mr.
Russell
is
coming
up,
people.
How
many
people
here
are
opposed
all
right.
Four
people
pick
four
people
to
speak
for
how
about
support
who's
here?
A
C
This
bill
amends
the
Philadelphia
zoning
maps
in
the
area
described
reasons
the
Penn
Presbyterian
Medical
Center
to
an
appropriate
zoning,
designation
CMX
for
center
city,
commercial,
mixed
juice
that
allows
for
further
development
and
expansion
of
their
services
on
the
site,
as
well
as
correctively
rezoning,
Saunders
Park
to
SP
Pio,
a
active
parks
and
recs
to
ensure
the
future
use
of
this.
Second
me,
please.
A
Q
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Robert
Russell
I'm
associate
executive
director
for
operations
at
Penn,
Presbyterian,
Medical,
Center
and
I'd
like
to
thank
the
committee
for
having
us
here
today
to
testify
on
this
bill.
So
Penn
Medicine
is
committed
to
develop
and
grow
the
campus
and
grow
the
services
at
the
Penn
Presbyterian
Medical
Center.
Q
The
current
zoning
classification
for
the
campus
is
our
m1,
which
is
multi-family
residential,
which
does
not
reflect
what
actually
goes
on
on
the
campus
and
and
in
fact,
prohibits
hospital
healthcare
and
health
practitioner
uses.
So
it
clearly
does
not
fit
what
we're
doing
on
the
campus
and
what
we've
been
doing
at
that
location
since
1871.
Q
So
we've
been
meeting
with
various
community
groups
getting
their
input
having
a
back
and
forth
dialogue
for
more
than
a
year.
In
fact,
class
June.
We
had
a
bill
that
we
were
preparing
present,
which
would
rezone
to
see
mx4
and
the
community
groups
asked
us
to
withdraw
and
so
to
have
some
further
discussions
with
them
about
the
campus
as
well
as
Saunders
Park.
Q
Additionally,
we've
had
other
meetings
with
other
stakeholders
and
we've
come
to
an
agreement,
and
we
intend
to
limit
development
on
the
property
to
500
percent
of
fa
are
with
a
limit
of
750
percent.
Fa
are
with
bonuses
institute
a
hundred
and
forty
foot
height
limit
along
Palitana
Avenue
within
50
feet
of
Pelton
Avenue.
Q
We've
also
agreed
to
meet
with
the
our
ce
o--'s
and
other
stakeholders
two
to
three
times
a
year
to
discuss
both
community
priorities
and
ongoing
activities
at
the
hospital
and
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
there
are
six
rCOS
that
are
interrelated
to
Penn.
Presbyterians
campus
and
five
of
the
six
rCOS
have
written
written
letters
of
support
for
this
bill,
which
both
razones
Presbyterian
correctly
for
the
future,
as
well
as
Saunders
Park
going
forward.
Thank
you
thank.
A
F
E
F
Q
F
Q
We
would
regularly
meet
with
them
and
other
community
organizations
to
share
what
was
going
on
and
to
get
their
input
and
then
that
we
would
communicate
with
them
and
have
an
opportunity
for
the
rCOS
and
the
community
stakeholders
to
comment
on
a
master
plan
of
draft,
and
we
believe
that
we've
addressed
those
issues
and
concerns.
So
you'll
have
to
ask
them
what
their
continuing
issue
is.
So.
F
Q
Think
that's
fair
to
say
and
that's
the
way
that
we
have
continued
to
have
always
and
continue
to
work
with
the
community
organizations
around
Penn
Presbyterian
we're
not
a
developer.
We're
not
coming
in
to
sort
of
build
something
and
run
away,
we're
a
neighbor,
and
we
want
to
have
good
relationships
with
our
neighbors
and
we
have
people
who
both
myself
and
other
members
of
my
team,
as
well
as
members
of
Penn
Medicine
and
the
University
of
Pennsylvania,
who
meet
with
the
organization's
because
we
want
to
have
a
good
relationship.
Q
F
F
So
you
have
evidence
that
that
that
has
been
18
months
from
the
time
that
the
rCOS
received
notice
to
the
meetings
that
took
place
to
us
arriving
here
today,
because
we
get
lots
of
information
from
all
sides
and
too
often
we
don't
have
documentation,
and
if
it's
in
the
world
I
live
in.
If
it's
not
in
writing,
it
doesn't
exist.
I
understand.
Q
A
You
any
other
questions
all
right.
Seeing
none!
Gentlemen!
Thank
you
very
much
all
right
again,
as
we
did
in
these
last
hearings.
We
got
four
people
who
are
opposed
to
due
to
this
plan.
Please
come
up
before
people
pick
you
forth,
and
those
of
you
who
do
not
have
a
chance
actually
speak.
If
you
won't
put
your
name
and
the
record,
you
can,
let
us
know,
or
if
you
have
any
written
testimony,
give
it
to
us
for
people.
A
M
So
my
name
is
Steve
Sibel,
ski
and
I'm,
the
president
of
the
Politan
village,
Civic
Association
and
I'm
here
to
speak
in
opposition
to
bill
one
nine,
zero,
five,
five
one
before
my
remarks
really
quickly.
I
just
want
to
publicly
thank
Councilwoman
Blackwell
for
her
support
on
this
issue
and
on
all
other
matters
in
our
district.
Thank
you
very
much
Councilwoman.
M
So
this
bill
would
rezone,
as
we've
heard
the
Penn
Presbyterian
campus
to
see
mx4
Center,
City
commercial
zoning.
With
this
rezoning.
The
development
on
this
12.7
acre
site
could
eclipse
the
three-story
brick
row
homes
just
across
the
street.
Imagine
the
traffic,
the
noise,
the
shadows
and
other
issues
that
could
come
with
blank
checks,
emx
for
high-rise
development,
a
few
hundred
feet
from
your
doorstep.
That's
not
something
our
residents
want
and,
as
you
can
see,
they're
very
concerned.
However,
our
community
is
not
anti
development
and
we
know
how
to
compromise.
M
We
believe
that
rezoning,
the
campus
is
workable.
If,
along
with
this
bill,
we
obtain
an
agreement
that
protects
the
community's
interests.
Our
request
for
such
an
agreement
are
very
reasonable.
Mr.
Russell
just
articulated
them
a
couple
minutes
ago,
but
we
want
a
master
plan,
so
we
know
what
to
expect
of
future
development.
We
want
community
voices
to
be
heard
during
the
design
of
significant
projects.
We
want
modest
controls
on
density
and
height
and
we
want
an
Economic
Opportunity
plan
that
distributes
some
of
the
benefits
of
development
to
the
broader
West
Philadelphia
community.
M
This
letter
that
they've
provided
to
Councilwoman
Blackwell
just
yesterday
nods
to
these
needs,
but
it
doesn't
actually
accomplish
them.
It's
vague.
It
doesn't
commit
to
the
substance
or
the
timing
of
much
and
it
doesn't
secure
the
community's
interest
in
this
situation.
We
need
a
real
agreement
here.
M
Penn
Presbyterian
officials
may
want
to
make
this
about
their
intentions,
which
may
be
nothing
but
good,
but
this
bill
isn't
about
intentions.
It's
about
zoning
and
zoning
is
forever.
We
need
an
agreement
that
will
protect
our
community
now
and
into
the
future.
Now
some
of
our
neighbors
may
have
a
different
approach,
as
we
heard
we
valued
their
partnership
and
we
hope
that
any
agreement
includes
their
input
so
I
with
that.
That
concludes
my
remarks.
I
simply
request
that
this
bill
remain
here
until
such
an
agreement
has
been
reached.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
R
Afternoon,
you're
here
in
retired
yeah,
at
the
status
good
afternoon,
chairman
Greenlee
and
members
of
the
Rules
Committee,
my
name
is
Debra
McCarty
I'm
here
to
testify
in
opposition
to
bill
number
one
905
5,
1
I
am
co-chair
of
pound
religious
zoning
committee
and,
of
course,
a
resident
of
Mountain
Village.
As
you
are
very
likely
aware,
pound
is
a
wonderful
neighborhood
with
many
townhouses
and
low-rise
development.
A
few
years
ago,
city
council,
through
the
help
of
Councilman
Blackwell,
gave
us
a
neighborhood
conservation
overlay
to
help
our
neighborhood
retain
its
special
character.
R
This
bill
would
rezone
this
medical
campus
to
see
mx4
as
you've
heard
that
is
not
appropriate.
Spinz
would
be
a
correct.
Bizarre
need
designation
for
this
property,
because
spins
contains
a
requirement
of
having
a
master
plan.
Our
next
witness,
our
attorney
Paul
Bonney,
will
explain
more
about
this
in
a
moment.
Cm
x
4,
however,
is
essentially
a
blank
check
for
Penn
to
overwhelm
our
small
communities.
My
our
simple
request
is
that
they
agreed
to
a
community
benefits
agreement
or
some
binding
agreement,
which
primarily
commits
them
develop
a
master
plan.
R
Incredibly,
they
have
stated
to
us
that
they
have
none,
facilitate
community
involvement
through
an
advisory
group,
height
density
limits
and
Economic
Opportunity
plan
when
we
met
with
pen
pen
stated
that
these
are
very
reasonable
requests.
However,
they
don't
do
community
benefits
agreements.
This
is
AB.
It's
perplexing.
As
Drexel
and
Brandywine
Realty
try,
one
of
the
largest
developers
in
Philadelphia
have
signed
cbas
with
us
and
many
other
local
groups,
including
with
Mantua
PE
Sea,
Peoples,
emergency
center
and
West
pout,
and
Saunders
tennis
told
us
that
they
will
do
many
of
the
things
were
requesting
well.
R
I
am
sure
that
their
intentions
are
good
without
memorializing
these
items
in
an
enforceable
document,
nothing
stops
them
or
future
Penn
leadership
from
doing
as
they
wish
with
their
CMX
for
blank
check.
I
thus
respectfully
request
that
this
bill
be
voted
down
or
at
least
held
until
a
community
benefits
agreement
or
some
sort
of
binding
agreement
can
be
agreed
upon.
Thank
You.
T
Mr.
chairman,
members
of
the
committee,
thank
you
very
much.
My
name
is
Paul
Bonnie
and
I'm.
An
attorney
representing
Pelton,
Village,
Civic
Association
I
believe
that
bill
195
5-1
is
inappropriate.
The
Penn
Presbyterian
Medical
Center
is
located
on
a
twelve
point,
seven
acre
campus
at
3,800
Pelton
having
you.
We
have
a
photograph.
T
This
campus
is
a
single
parcel,
it's
a
single
parcel
and
it
currently
includes
about
seven
buildings
and
open
areas.
Also,
the
spi
ns
sometimes
called
spins
the
spins
zoning
classification
is
suitable
for
this
parcel.
Why?
Because
the
purpose
of
spins
is
set
forth
expressly
in
the
zoning
code
is
to
encourage
development
of
institutional
uses,
quote
in
accordance
with
an
approved
master
plan
and
that's
the
key.
It
calls
for
a
master
plan
under
spins.
The
master
plan
is
presented
and
approved,
approved
by
whom,
by
the
City,
Planning
Commission.
Of
course,
Penn
should
have
a
master
plan.
T
We've
asked
Penn
on
numerous
occasions
for
a
copy
of
their
master
plan
and
they've
consistently
told
us
that
they
don't
have
one,
but
in
September
of
this
year,
Penn
Presbyterian
CEO
said
to
our
community
organization
a
different
setting
that
they've
engaged
an
architect
to
help
them
develop
a
long-term
plan.
She
also
mentioned
that
they're
planning
to
open
a
1400
space
parking
garage
in
about
two
years
that
is
concerning
to
us
and
I,
suggest
that
it
should
be
concerning
to
the
city.
Are
we
opposed
to?
That?
Is
the
city
opposed
to
that?
T
In
the
technical
memorandum
of
the
2035
plan
published
in
2012,
the
city
said
as
follows:
recent
master
plans
by
Penn
and
Drexel
closely
vetted
by
the
city
and
codified
in
spin
zoning
have,
in
most
cases,
looked
to
redirect
institutional
growth,
growth
away
from
likely
conflicts
with
adjoining
neighborhoods
and
the
city
continued
in
its
2035
document.
Spins
districts
have
yet
to
be
created
for
us,
P
and
n
Presbyterian.
In
face
of
that,
in
the
face
of
that
recommendation,
that
is
looking
to
have
to
do
a
master
plan
that
would
be
closely
vetted
by
the
city.
T
Penn
push
back
the
city
published
as
the
city
published
in
its
comment
document
penn
said
that
for
a
presbyterian
hospital
quote
the
proposed
zoning
as
spins.
While
the
parcel
is
large
enough
to
qualify
for
spin
zoning.
It
is
not
expansive
enough
to
truly
benefit
from
this.
Zoning
designation.
Isn't
that
an
interesting
comment?
Penn
didn't
think
that
they
they
can
benefit
from
the
spins
as
designation
of
corporate,
maybe
not,
but
the
spins
designation
is
meant
to
benefit
the
community
and
the
city
to
protect
us.
T
T
Which
is
indicated
in
yellow
in
the
drawing,
but
together
at
the
University,
City
Housing
high
school
site.
Together,
we
solved
it
with
Drexel
University,
the
owner
of
the
property
City
Council,
granted
Drexel
generous
zoning,
but
only
after
we
put
in
place
a
community
benefits
agreement
that
required
a
master
plan
and
it
required
a
master
plan
to
be
developed
in
a
process
that
was
open
and
transparent
and
that
took
into
consideration
community
input.
It
provides
for
a
process
that
was
meaningful
and
that
agreement
is
working
well.
T
The
bill
under
consideration
is
inappropriate.
It
singles
out
this
property
from
similarly
surrounding
land
for
the
economic
benefit
of
one
entity.
It
would
be
an
island
of
zoning
for
the
benefit
of
one
landowner
and
to
the
detriment
of
the
residential
community.
I
would
suggest
that
the
committee
do
one
of
two
things:
either
vote
no
on
this
bill
or
hold
it
in
committee
until
we
can
put
together
an
agreement
with
Penn.
The
letter
they
submitted
yesterday
afternoon
is
a
start,
but
there's
much
more
work.
That
needs
to
be
done.
T
We're
prepared
to
roll
up
our
sleeves
and
get
it
done,
as
we
have
always
done
in
the
past.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
I.
Just
note
that
you
know
the
representative
from
the
University
said
that
there's
an
agreement
I'm
not
sure
that
there's
an
ax
there
is
any
agreement.
My
understanding
is
there's
a
letter
stating
the
university's
intentions.
R
We've
been,
we
haven't,
our
our
CEO
hasn't
been
pulled
into
it
for
a
year
and
a
half
we've
only
been
brought
into
it
since
November
of
2018
and
we've
been
attempting
to
work
with
Panama.
It
was
only
just
last
night
that
we
got
that
letter
of
intent,
sue,
Councilwoman,
Blackwell's
office,
so
we've
been
trying
and
I
think
as
as
we
said,
we're
all.
We
all
want
the
same
good
things
for
the
community,
but
we
were
hoping
that
there's
got
you
sick.
If.
T
You're
interested
we're
prepared
to
tell
you
the
areas
of
disagreement,
but
we'll
leave
that
with
you.
Okay
I
think
it
was
a
month
ago
that
we
gave
pen
in
writing
everything
that
we're
asking
for
so
the
things
that
we're
still
asking
for
today,
they've
known
about
for
a
month,
aren't
asking
for
nothing
new,
nothing,
more,
nothing
different.
In
fact,
we've
compromised.
A
A
A
L
Right
councilman,
my
name
is
Gary
Jonas
from
the
Drexel
area,
property
Association
I
just
wanted
to
get
on
the
record
that
we
have
dealt
with
pen
and
through
this
process
of
them,
trying
to
work
through
it
and
have
found
found
that
they've
been
very
accommodating,
and
we
believe
that
the
CMX
for
zoning
is
appropriate
for
the
site.
We
believe
that
the
master
plan
that's
been
asked
for
a
while.
L
It's
good
those
things
are
fluid
and
they
change
all
the
time
and
that
the
density
requirements
and
the
setbacks
that
they
put
in
place
are
certainly
appropriate
for
the
site.
We
understand
how
important
the
site
is
that
the
community
in
general,
we
want
to
see
it
be
successful,
and
so
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
we've
been
working
with
them
and
we've
been
thrilled
with
the
process,
and
we
think
the
project
as
they've
laid
out
is
it's
good.
A
E
E
We
support.
We
support
the
bill
because
University
of
Penn
Drexel
Presbyterian
be
supporting
us.
It's
part,
my
grandmother
for
the
last
45
years
now
that
I've
been
a
part
of
it
for
the
last
I've,
been
apart
for
the
last
28
years,
I
joined
this
organization
when
I
was
11,
I'm
39
years
old,
I've
been
this
community
everyday,
keep
the
kids
safe
off
the
streets
and
every
everyone
that
I
see
that
opposed
this
bill.
E
I,
don't
see
in
a
community
at
all
I'm
there
every
single
day
and
and
the
only
support
we
get
is
from
pen
from
counseling
magenta
black
was
office.
So
that's
the
only
support
that
we
always
get
now
that
we
have
someone
who's
coming
in
here
as
actually
trying
to
keep
our
neighborhood
and
keep
our
organizations
known,
because
as
a
right
now
they
trying
to
push
us
out
our
neighborhood
and
take
us
out
our
neighborhood
out
what
the
University
City
High
School.
E
It's
not
here,
no
more,
when
I
drop
by
to
show
my
kids
I
can't
show
what
high
school
I
went
to,
what
middle
school
I
went
to.
Salzburg
the
middle
school
is
not
here.
No
more
I
have
nothing
to
show
my
kids,
so
so
it's
like
we
try
our
best
to
do
so
much
for
the
seniors
in
our
community
and
the
kids
in
our
community,
and
but
these
new
organizations
that
came
in
they
took
over
our
neighborhood
and
pushed
everyone
out.
E
Well,
we've
won
the
last
few
that
standing
and
we're
not
going
to
wear
and
everyone
everyone.
This
panel
might
know
my
face
because
I
our
community
what's
power
to
also
have
a
community
drill,
team
and
drumline,
and
we
don't
sit
over
a
thousand
kids
to
college
our
pockets
and
we
continue
to
continue
to
do
it,
and
we
just
want
you
to
know
that
we
support
this
bill.
Okay,.
F
F
We
support
the
zoning
change
because
residents
of
West
pout
in
Saunders,
Park,
View
Penn
pres
be
as
a
responsible
anchor
institution
and
a
good
neighbor.
We
want
to
continue
to
support
them
in
providing
world-class
care
in
our
area
and
in
respect
to
councils
time
I
just
like
to
have
the
residents
of
our
neighborhood
who
took
time
out
of
their
busy
schedule.
A
E
E
It
might
be
opposition
against
this
bill,
but
we
need
for
our
sins
better
for
our
residents
and
those
who
make
it
sick
will
be
closer
to
their
neighborhood.
The
opposition
feel
as
though
there
are
not.
They
are
the
community.
They
have
never
been
the
community.
We
have
always
been
the
community
says
to
be
that
we
have
a
lot
of
people
who
think
they're
moving
in
the
neighborhood,
who
are
the
community
they're?
Not.
We
want
this
bill
passed
and
we
have
a
lot
of
people
that
want
this
bill
passed.
So
please,
councilman,
I,.
M
E
A
E
Got
like
you
said,
been
been
supporting
us
for
years.
Last
last
Saturday,
our
community
drumline
just
performed
for
Penn
halftime
of
their
football
game.
Besides
that
they
helped
support
with
Councilwoman
James
blackwell.
They
helped
some
more
Christmas
party
and
we
have
every
year
Presbyterian
Hospital
for
125,
community,
kids
and
sick
kids
in
the
hospital
which
I'll
play
Santa
Claus;
okay.
E
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
very
much.
Thank
you
all
right
that
will
complete
our
hearing
today
and
momentarily
we'll
go
into
a
public.
I
should
noted
for
the
record.
The
council
went
black.
Well,
that's
the
sponsor.
The
last
bill
is
present.
I.
Don't
think
I
said
that
again
what
this
completes
our
public
hearing,
we
will
go
into
a
public
meeting
momentarily.
A
I
A
I
A
Been
moved
and
seconded
the
bills
is
read
by
Councilman
school,
be
reported
as
committee
favorably,
with
a
rule
suspension
all
in
favor,
opposed
hearing,
none
the
bills
again
as
read
by
Councilman
school
all
report
House
Committee
favorably,
with
a
rule
suspension
to
allow
for
first
reading
our
next
session
of
council.
We
thank
everybody
for
their
time
participation.
Thank
you
very
much.