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From YouTube: Feb. 25, 2015: City Council Hearing on Environment
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Feb. 25, 2015 -- Public hearing of the Environment and Sustainability Committee. On the agenda was the following item:
150011: An Ordinance amending Section 9-3402 of The Philadelphia Code, entitled "Benchmarking Energy and Water Use", to expand the buildings for which the benchmarking and reporting of energy and water usage data is required, all under
certain terms and conditions.
A
I
would
also
like
to
personally
thank
this
Bill's
co-sponsor
councilman
James
Kenny
and
his
absence
for
his
leadership
on
this
very,
very
important
environmental
issue.
We
all
know
that
councilman
Kenny
has
been
a
retired
lyst,
a
tireless
and
relentless
advocate
for
Philadelphia
environment
and
sustainability.
Community
and
I
would
be
remiss
not
to
thank
him
in
his
absence
and
his
former
staff
personally
for
all
the
work
they
did
on
this
measure.
A
This
legislation,
known
as
the
energy
benchmarking
bill,
has
led
to
greater
transparency
and
efficiency
of
energy
used
throughout
Philadelphia
and
as
a
footnote,
I
want
to
acknowledge
also
in
their
app
since
the
leadership
at
boma
were
a
calf
Catholic,
Gilmore
and
Obama
and
I
worked
for
a
long
time,
along
with
the
offices
of
sustainability,
is
Catherine
Gasca
here.
Yes
to
make
that
first,
energy
benchmarking
wheel
on
january
22nd
2015,
I
was
proud
to
introduce
bill
number
1.
A
500
11,
which
expands
Philadelphia's
energy
benchmarking
requirements
to
include
any
building
with
fifty
thousand
or
more
indoor
square
footage.
This
bill
is
the
result
of
a
collaborative
research
and
planning
effort
again
with
the
nutter
administration,
the
mayor's
office
of
sustainability
and
many
environmental
and
industry
stakeholders
right
here
in
this
room.
This
legislation
is
another
step
in
the
right
direction
towards
achieving
Philadelphia's,
long-term
goal
of
becoming
the
greenness
and
most
sustainable
city
in
America
when
it
comes
to
sustainability,
I'm,
always
inspired
by
a
quote
from
the
renowned
scientist,
Carl
Sagan
quote
anything
else.
A
You're
interested
in
is
not
going
to
happen.
If
you
can't
breathe
the
air
or
drink
the
water,
don't
sit
this
one
out.
Do
something,
and
quote
for
these
reasons
and
more
I'm,
asking
for
your
support
on
this
measure.
Today
again,
I
want
to
thank
my
staff,
hygiene
alumium
and
those
who
worked
with
him.
The
administration,
Catherine
Gaius
key
and
her
team
and
all
of
those
who
have
come
to
support
this
legislation
today
and
with
that
mr.
clerk
would
actually
to
read
the
title
of
the
day.
An.
B
A
Allow
me
to
introduce
the
members
who
are
with
us
today:
majority
leader,
councilman
Jones
Councilwoman,
Janie
Blackwell,
who
also
chairs
the
committee
on
the
committee
on
education,
and
this
is
an
educational
measure.
Councilwoman
so
is
all-
is
aligned
in
Councilman
David
Oh
for
coming
together
to
allow
us
to
have
a
forum.
First
up
is
Andrew
sharp
deputy
director
of
policy
for
the
mayor's
office
of
sustainability,
and
he
will
be
father,
followed
by
Tom
Bonner
energy
policy
manager
for
PECO
and
I,
see
here
a
Melanie
laughter.
C
Brown
and
members
of
the
committee
I'm
Andrew
sharp
I'm,
the
deputy
director
for
Paulo
state
here
at
the
mayor's
office
of
sustainability.
I
also
have
my
colleague,
rich
free
here
with
me,
who
manages
the
city's
energy
benchmarking
program
I'm
here
to
testify
in
support
of
build
10
15
0
0
1
1,
which
amends
the
existing
energy
benchmarking
reporting
requirement
for
privately
owned
buildings
to
include
multifamily,
building
over
50,000
square
feet,
I'd
like
to
thank
carolyn
reynolds
ground
for
her
leadership
and
partnership,
promoting
energy
efficiency
and
sustainability.
C
Here
in
the
city,
as
many
of
you
know,
the
mayor's
office
of
sustainability
and
responsible
for
implementation,
Green
Works
Philadelphia,
the
city's
comprehensive
sustainability
plan,
Green
Works
sets
measurable
goals
in
the
areas
of
energy,
environment,
equity,
economy
and
engagement.
This
bill
supports
several
of
those
objectives,
including
energy
conservation,
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
improved
air
quality.
More
than
sixty
percent
of
the
greenhouse
gas
emissions
in
Philadelphia
come
from
our
buildings,
more
than
double
that
of
the
transportation
sector.
It's
clear
that
an
order
to
see
of
meaningful
reduction
in
citywide
energy
use
in
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
C
We
must
address
our
buildings,
improving
the
resiliency
of
our
cities,
building
stock
increases
value
and
regional
competitiveness
and
avoiding
the
costs
of
wasted
energy
means
more
dollars
going
back
into
the
local
economy.
Energy
efficiency
solutions
are
simple,
affordable
and
accessible,
but
only
when
the
people
who
own
manage
and
rent
those
buildings
are
aware
of
their
energy
performance.
C
Benchmarking
refers
to
the
process
of
reporting
and
disclosing
whole
building
utility
data
on
an
annual
basis
in
Philadelphia
and
other
cities
where
similar
requirements
have
been
adopted.
This
process
is
done
using
portfolio
manager,
which
is
a
free
tool
provided
by
the
US
EPA,
similar
to
a
miles
per
gallon
rating
on
a
car
portfolio.
Management
manager
provides
building
owners,
operators
and
tenants
and
easy
to
understand
way
to
rate
the
building's
energy
efficiency
for
the
first
time.
C
Ninety
percent
of
the
buildings
required
have
reported
in
year,
two
providing
the
city
with
a
wealth
of
new
information
about
energy
and
water
performance,
our
building
staff.
Overall,
the
median
building
score
in
Philadelphia
scored
a
63
on
a
scale
of
1
to
100.
Mos
is
encouraged
by
this
figure,
but
it
also
demonstrates
how
much
work
we
have
left
to
do.
Peer
cities,
including
New
York,
Chicago
and
DC,
have
median
scores
over
70
on
an
Energy
Star
scale.
C
At
the
same
time,
MOS
has
provided
personal
building
report
cards
to
owners
operators,
letting
them
know
how
their
facilities
rated,
not
only
in
comparison
to
national
medians,
but
also
to
pier
buildings
in
this
city.
Earlier
this
year,
our
office
work
with
Jose
via
a
local
data,
visualization
firm
to
develop
an
online
tool
that
shows
this
data
in
an
easy
to
use
map
through
the
city
energy
project,
a
multi-city
initiative
to
improve
building
performance.
C
Our
office
will
be
expanding
outreach
efforts
in
2015
to
ensure
that
this
data
can
be
matched
to
available
utility
incentive
programs
offered
by
PGW
in
pico
to
continue
the
work
of
improving
energy
efficiency
here
in
Philadelphia.
With
these
results
in
hand,
We
strongly
support
the
council
on
this
effort
to
now
expand
this
successful
program
from
multifamily
buildings
in
2014,
the
EPA
released
energy
star
scores
for
residential
buildings
for
the
first
time,
clearing
a
major
data
hurdle
for
this
set
of
buildings.
C
The
green
condo
co-op,
which
I
believe
is
here
today,
which
represents
many
of
the
estimated
eight
hundred
buildings
that
would
be
covered
by
this
new
coordinate,
is
strongly
supportive
of
energy
benchmarking
for
residential
buildings.
With
this
bill,
apartment
and
condo
owners
will
have
the
ability
to
access
the
same
citywide
standardized
data
that
commercial
building
owners
have
now.
This
information
will
allow
building
owners
to
make
more
informative
best
investments
in
energy
efficiency
upgrades
leading
to
reduce
utility
costs
and
improve
comfort
for
the
estimated
forty
eight
percent
of
Philadelphians,
who.
B
C
Currently
renters,
it
provides
transparency,
transparency
to
the
marketplace,
allowing
tenants
to
compare
energy
use
between
a
building
and
its
neighbor.
We've
found
that
the
more
building
owners
know
about
their
building
the
more
empowered
they
are
improve
it
and
make
upgrades
a
building
with
good
energy
management.
Practices
is
good
for
tenants
owners,
taxpayers
in
the
environment,
based
on
our
experience,
implementing
benchmarking
for
commercial
buildings,
MOS,
of
course,
adding
multifamily
buildings
as
a
positive
cost,
neutral
approach
to
making
philadelphia
more
energy
efficient.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
testify
and
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
A
A
C
Essentially,
utilities
you
know
may
need
it
will
take
additional
staff
capacity
to
put
together
some
of
this.
We've
worked
through
some
of
these
challenges,
with
utilities
already
with
picots
PGW
we've
had
discussions
with
them
and
have
had
a
partnership
with
them
since
before
2012
on
this,
and
we
have
obviously
overcome
all
of
the
hurdles,
and
we
expect
to
do
and.
A
A
D
D
A
year
from
passage
to
implementation,
as
Andrew
said,
were
committed
to
working
with
the
stakeholders
here
in
the
room
today
and
other
folks
who
would
be
affected
both
kind
of
in
the
regulated
community,
as
well
as
among
utilities
and
other
stakeholders
to
ensure
that
the
timeline
works
for
everyone
and
no
building
owner
is
unduly
burdened
by
this
regulation.
Lastly,.
A
C
E
A
E
Indo
case
will
we
be
asking
the
city
for
any
financial
assistance?
Sorry
well
so
I
just
want
to
put
that
on
a
trek
up
there
real,
clearly
I'm
Tom,
honor,
Energy,
Policy
Manager
for
Pico
and
I've
had
the
pleasure
of
working
directly
with
you,
your
staff
in
the
mayor's
office
of
sustainability,
both
on
the
development
and
implementation
of
this
law,
supporting
our
customers,
efforts
to
save
energy
and
money
as
an
important
part
of
our
community
mission
through
pecos,
smart
ideas
and
industry-leading
energy
efficiency
program.
E
We've
helped
our
customers
save
408
million
dollar,
remove
the
equivalent
of
one
hundred
sixty-six
thousand
cars
from
the
road
between
2010
in
2014.
The
company
also
offers
a
program
called
Pecos:
smart
multi-family
solutions
for
properties
with
four
more
units
providing
a
complementary
energy
assessment
and
direct
installation
of
energy
saving
measures
on
the
properties.
Multifamily
properties
are
also
eligible
to
receive
incentives
for
installing
or
upgrading
equipment.
E
I'm,
sorry
qualifying
high-efficiency
equipment
in
common
areas
for
whole
building
systems.
He
goes
been
pleased
to
serve
as
a
resource
assisting
in
the
development
and
implementation
of
the
city's
energy
benchmarking
wall
in
2012.
Pico
was
asked
to
provide
input
to
council
on
what
types
of
information
the
company
could
provide
to
owners
of
large
commercial
buildings.
If
council
would
require
energy
efficiency
benchmarking
at
that
time,
remember
with
representatives
the
council,
the
mayor's
office,
he
stayed
over
explain
to
all
people
and
receive
their
monthly
energy
usage
data
from
their
pico
com
account.
E
We
also
noted
that
we're
considering
options
to
provide
this
information
through
electronic
data
transfer
that
could
be
linked
directly
to
the
US
epa's
portfolio
manager
portal.
Well,
we
didn't
take
a
position
on
that
legislation.
We
did
provide
input
on
some
key
issues
that
were
ultimately
reflected
in
the
legislation.
One
was
a
development
deployment
of
the
tool
does
take
some
time.
This
is
a
fairly
complex
information
technology
project
that
needs
to
be
worked
with
the
rest
of
the
utilities.
I.
F
E
Was
it
the
Pennsylvania
public
utility
commission
would
have
to
approve
the
spending
to
implement
this
program,
which
they
ultimately
did?
Number
three
was
that
the
benchmarking
requirement
need
to
be
established
in
a
manner
that
protected
the
utility
from
any
legal
liability
involved
in
transferring
this
data.
The
legislation
was
very
good
in
that
respect
and
or
that
consumers
requesting
electronic
data
transfer
would
be
required
to
maintain
and
update
the
list
of
properties
that
they
needed
the
data
transfer.
E
What's
called
ecosmart
energy
usage
data
tool
for
the
PSE
UDT,
my
life
easy
understand
that
as
the
Eco
tool
for
the
resident
testimony,
in
spite
of
some
timing,
challenges
related
to
EPA's
updates
to
the
portfolio
manager,
which
pushed
back
our
ability
to
do
the
final
coating
on
our
tool.
We
were
able
to
launch
in
September
2013.
E
Piko
tool
accounts
covering
260
buildings,
which
receive
monthly
data
through
electronic
transfer
building
owners
and
have
their
data
sent
to
them
either
automatically
to
them
or
automatically
transfer
directly
to
US
epa.
That's
a
choice
they
make
when
they
have
the
account
established,
PECO,
also
develop
tenant
authorization
forms
that
allows
in
the.
E
Building
owners
that
have
subleased
tenants
the
ability,
a
legally
recognized
ability
to
authorize,
transfer
their
data
to
us
and
then
ultimately,
to
EPA.
At
the
request
of
your
office
and
the
Office
of
Sustainability,
we
reviewed
our
capabilities
to
use
our
existing
tool
to
provide
multifamily
buildings
with
automated
data
transfer
service.
In
almost
all
cases,
this
should
be
possible.
The
overwhelming
majority
of
large
multifamily
buildings
in
the
city
are
commercial
accounts
which
our
tool
was
currently
fake.
Configured
to
transfer
the
data
from
there
may
be
a
small
number
of
cases.
E
We
don't
think
this
is
going
to
be
the
case
where
something
is
a
residential
ego
account
in
a
buildings
more
than
50,000
square
feet.
We
have
not
found
any
of
those
in
our
reviews,
but
we
don't
want
to
say
definitively
that
they're
not
out
there.
In
that
case,
if
we
were
to
encounter
one
or
two
customers,
we
would
work
with
those
customers
individually
to
provide
some
solution.
We
probably
would
not
want
to
reconfigure
the
tool
at
a
pretty
significant
ite
expense
to
accommodate
one
or
two
customers,
but
we
would
we
would
set
something
else
up.
E
We
will
do
a
conduit,
for
we
also
recognize
that,
in
terms
of
big
picture,
national
policy,
multi-family
housing
is
important
issue.
We've
partnered,
with
the
city
of
Philadelphia
to
participate
in
the
u.s.
do
E's
Better
Buildings
accelerator
program
to
help
resolve
some
of
the
technical
issues
that
may
come
up
for
applies
multi-family
housing
going
forward.
We
do
face
a
number
of
issues
with
continuing
to
provide
this
service
pack.
E
1
29
phase
2
expires
at
the
end
of
cert
in
the
summer
of
2016,
and
the
company
is
evaluating
all
the
programs
in
its
portfolio,
as
is
a
good
mix
into
practice.
Continuing
to
provide
the
service
will
require
a
continued
support
from
CA
PUC.
We
don't
anticipate
that
being
a
problem
that
we're
very
supportive
in
phase
2
and
the
city
will
also
so
we
don't
anticipate
a
problem
there,
but
it
is
one
caveat.
I
need
a
layout,
we're
also
continuing
to
evaluate
the
best
technology
platforms
for
this
service.
E
So
we
may
have
some
changes
in
what
we
offer
in
some
year
in
the
future.
But
if
a
service
we
anticipate
would
still
be
there,
although
we
can't
guarantee
it,
we
do
think-
and
this
is
if
anybody
from
the
federal
government
here
is
listening.
The
ultimate
best
answer
is
for
the
federal
government
to
develop
a
solution
that
supports
secure
transfer
of
energy
usage
data
in
standard
green
button
format
into
the
EPA
portfolio
manager.
B
E
Other
utilities,
at
least
on
the
energy
side
having
to
have
a
specialized
data
extraction
and
dangerous.
If
we
say
really,
we
have
two
nice
superhighways
recording
button
and
portfolio
manager.
Unfortunately,
there's
a
dirt
road
in
between
them
that
isn't
quite
paved
over
and
if
they,
the
federal
government
gave
over
that
Gertrude
would
make
it
easier.
Not
only
it's.
E
A
E
G
E
B
E
Also
look
around
the
country
and
we
see
utilities
that
have
just
started
looking
at
this
issue:
cities
that
have
just
started
looking
at
this
issue
and
we've
that's
one
of
the
reasons
we've
been
pleased
dissipate
in
a
better
building
accelerator.
We
testified
or
gave
a
presentation,
the
international
green
building
council
meeting
that
we
had
here
in
Philadelphia
a
couple
years
ago.
Yes,.
E
A
C
A
H
B
E
A
You
very
much
for
your
testimony
you're
welcome
if
we
could.
Please
have
panel
number
three
alek
dues
welcome
back
now
the
executive
director
of
the
Delaware
Valley
green
building
council
Joan
battery
chairwoman
for
the
full
off
at
green
condo,
co-op
initiative
and
Jim
Giblin
greater
philadelphia,
condominium
managers,
association
welcome
back
Alex
gone
without
the
E
right
right.
I
This
bill,
which
simply
extends
the
existing
energy
and
water
benchmarking
requirement
to
the
residential
buildings
over
50,000
square
feet
in
the
city,
will
encourage
greater
energy
efficiency
in
the
large
multifamily
sector.
That
includes
more
than
700
buildings.
Delaware
Valley,
Green,
Building
Council's
mission
to
improve
the
efficiency
and
sustainability
of
the
region's
building
stock
through
education
and
engagement
is
closely
aligned
with
the
city's
efforts
to
improve
the
efficiency
of
Philadelphia's
largest
buildings,
which
is
why
we
fully
support
this
amendment.
I
Cities
are
the
primary
source
of
carbon
emissions
in
this
country
and
in
most
places,
buildings
account
for
more
than
half
of
those
emissions.
Philadelphia
is
no
exception
and
it's
sixty-two
percent
of
citywide
greenhouse
gas
emissions
buildings
represent
the
best
opportunity
to
reduce
the
city's
climate
impact.
The
good
news
is
that
reducing
emissions
from
buildings
means
lowering
utility
costs
for
building
owners
and
managers
which
results
in
very
real
financial
benefits.
I
On
average,
Americans
spend
more
than
ninety
percent
of
their
time
indoors
in
schools,
offices,
churches,
hospitals
and
museums
and
the
buildings
we
occupy
use,
energy
and
water
for
very
good
reasons.
The
problem
is
that
almost
a
third
of
the
energy
used
in
big
commercial
buildings
is
wasted
and
the
resulting
financial
and
environmental
costs
are
easily
avoidable
in
a
lot
of
cases.
Building
owners
and
occupants
are
not
aware
of
this
waste
because
they
have
no
information
about
their
buildings,
energy
performance.
I
In
the
past
five
years,
ten
cities
and
several
states
and
counties
across
the
country
have
passed
energy,
benchmarking
and
transparency
requirements.
Philadelphia
became
the
sixth
city
to
pass
a
law
of
this
kind
in
2012
and
was
one
of
the
first
to
successfully
go
through
with
implementation
in
2013.
I
Benchmarking
is
the
key
to
providing
information
to
all
building
stakeholders,
owners,
managers,
tenants,
brokers
and
service
providers
and
benchmarking
using
energy
star
portfolio
manager
simply
combines
basic
building,
attribute
attributes
and
utility
bills
to
generate
a
performance
score
for
any
building
against
its
peers.
These
scores
are
the
first
step
in
prioritizing
capital
and
operating
improvements
that
help
to
save
energy
and
money.
Building.
Energy
benchmarking
has
been
a
big
success
in
Philadelphia
already
with
performance
scores
for
all
the
buildings
in
its
portfolio,
the
city's
Energy
Office
has
been
able
to
implement
a
number
of
energy
conservation
projects.
I
Commercial
building
owners
and
managers
have
also
used
benchmarking
scores
to
identify
investment
opportunities
and
to
market
highly
efficient
properties.
Extending
the
current
benchmarking
requirement
is
an
important
next
step
toward
improving
efficiency
in
Philadelphia.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank.
H
Good
morning,
Councilwoman
and
councilmen,
oh
thank
you
very
much
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
Philadelphia
green
condo
co-op
initiative,
and
thank
you
for
your
continuing
support
for
the
environment
and
green
building
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia.
Those
of
us
who
care
about
the
city
really
appreciate
your
effort
and
thank
you
so
much.
You're
welcome
the
Philadelphia
green
condo
co-op
initiative.
Gcci
firmly
believes
that
extending
energy
benchmarking
and
reporting
to
multifamily
buildings
by
enacting
this
bill
will
be
a
win-win
for
the
city,
its
current
and
its
future
residents.
H
The
GCC
I
was
founded
in
2009
by
multifamily
building
owners
in
Philadelphia,
who
wanted
to
make
their
buildings
more
sustainable.
We
provide
educational
programs
about
sustainability
that
is
specific
to
the
multifamily
building
community.
Our
steering
committee
is
comprised
of
individuals
and
associations
representing
over
500
150
of
the
largest
condominiums
and
co-op
buildings
in
the
city.
H
H
One
decision
by
a
multi-family
home
owner
association
to
make
their
building
energy
efficient,
can
have
a
huge
impact
on
its
owners
and
the
city,
for
example,
I,
live
at
the
philadelphian
in
the
art
museum
area,
with
approximately
1,100
other
people.
We
live
on
one
city,
whoa
Wow
in
2008.
Our
voters
are
owners
voted
in
favor
of
a
23
million
dollar
capital
project
to
make
our
building
more
energy
efficient.
H
We
saved
approximately
700
thousand
dollars
in
utility
costs
the
first
year
after
the
project
completion
and
have
saved
money
ever
since
we
no
longer
pay
and
thirty
thousand
dollars
in
fines
for
air
pollution.
Since
we
replaced
our
entire
power
plant
hmmm.
These
savings
enabled
us
to
upgrade
our
building
even
more
and
flatten.
Our
monthly
fee
increases
to
approximately
three
percent
over
the
past
five
years.
H
The
GCC
I
believes
that
enacting
bill
1500
one
would
motivate
other
multifamily
building
owners
to
make
their
buildings
more
energy-efficient
if
their
buildings
ranked
poorly.
As
a
result
of
this
new
reporting
requirement,
making
multifamily
buildings
more
energy-efficient
should
reduce
operational
costs
that
will
make
them
more
affordable
and
help
retain
residents,
attract
individuals
who
want
to
live
in
a
sustainable
building,
significantly
improve
local
and
Area
Air
Quality
and
create
jobs.
H
A
H
G
G
And
in
a
effort
for
full
disclosure,
I'm,
a
retired
fire
captain
from
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
so
I
guess
you
can
say,
I've
been
in
the
saving
business
for
quite
a
while.
Congratulations
and
thank
you
thank
you.
I
represent
30,000
owners
who
live
in
vertical
communities
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia
that
are
managed
by
the
members
of
the
Greater
Philadelphia
condominium
managers,
association
by
membership
and
those
owners
firmly
supports
the
extension
of
this
ordinance
to
cover
residential
properties.
G
Multifamily
properties,
you
may
ask:
why
would
property
matters
if
willing
to
add
more
work
and
more
reports
to
their
already
busy
daily
schedule?
I
think
I
can
answer
that,
giving
you
similarities
in
managing
residential
properties
with
running
a
successful
company
or
business.
The
answers
are
fairly
simple.
Successful
companies
learn
quickly
how
to
limit
expenses
to
become
profitable
in
property
management.
We
are
always
looking
for
ways
to
cut
costs
for
services
and
supplies.
One
of
the
largest
individual
costs
we
deal
with
is
for
the
energy
needed
to
keep
our
residential
buildings
running
efficiently.
G
This
legislation
will
give
us
the
tool
that
will
help
us
see
how
much
we
spend
for
energy
and,
more
importantly,
see
how
other
residential
buildings
are
doing.
Nothing
motivates
more
than
competition
number.
Two
successful
companies
take
care
of
their
customers
in
residential
properties.
Our
customers
are
our
owners.
They
live
in
the
buildings
we
manage
and
they
pay
for
the
energy
we
use
to
light
heat
or
cool
the
property
and
to
run
all
the
equipment
used
to
make
their
lives
pleasant
and
enjoyable.
G
We
are
motivated
to
satisfy
our
owners,
because,
if
we
don't,
we
may
not
be
there
tomorrow.
Successful
companies
know
that
their
know
their
product
and
improve
it
to
make
it
more
desirable
to
their
customers
and
attract
new
customers.
Property
managers
strive
to
improve
the
operations
of
the
buildings
we
manage
to
make
it
more
desirable
for
our
current
owners.
It
also
helps
to
attract
new
owners
who
understand
that
lower
operating
costs
are
reflected
in
their
monthly
fees.
A
great
man
once
said
you
can't
control
what
you
don't
measure
mm-hmm.
G
A
recent
study
done
by
the
EPA
indicated
that
on
average,
buildings
that
are
benchmarked
use,
2.4%
less
energy
than
those
buildings
that
are
not
a
benchmark
for
current
buildings,
mostly
commercial.
The
results
for
the
two
years
of
benchmarking
show
they
performed
above
the
national
average.
They
scored
an
average
energy
score
of
58
and
1900
buildings
participated
representing
270
million
square
feet.
Those
buildings,
all
being
commercial,
are
typically
not
occupied
24
hours
a
day.
Our
buildings
are
so
the
square
footage
is
going
to
go
up
and
the
energy
costs
are
going
to
come
down.
G
A
A
We
do
have
copies
of
your
testimony
correct.
Thank
you
again.
Next
panel
up
Jamie
caught
the
air
executive
director
of
the
sustainable
business
network,
Paul
Spiegel,
president
of
practical
energy
solutions
and
Charlie's
karate,
president
and
CEO
of
Independence
LED
lighting
LLC
welcome
to
Philadelphia
City
Council.
A
After
this,
we
have
one
panel
left,
Katie
Bartolotta
fell
off
the
outreach
coordinator
for
Penn
future
and
Logan
wheeled
weld
of
clean
air
Council,
and
we
have
written
testimony
that
has
been
submitted
by
Christine
nap.
The
director
of
government
affairs
for
the
fall
off
of
water
department,
Charles
Grant,
who
is
chief
of
staff
for
the
full
off
the
gas
works
and
I
thought.
I
saw
christine
young
you'll,
be
testifying
correct.
Or
do
you
want
to
submit
testimony.
A
K
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
today.
My
name
is
Jamie
gauthier
and
I'm.
The
executive
director
of
the
sustainable
business
network
of
Greater,
Philadelphia
or
svn
SBN
is
a
membership
organization
for
locally
owned
businesses
committed
not
only
to
profit
but
to
making
positive
social
and
environmental
impacts.
Our
mission
is
to
build
a
just
green
and
thriving
economy
in
the
Greater
Philadelphia
region.
Our
membership
based
is
comprised
of
over
400
locally
owned
small
businesses.
These
are
independent
retailers,
manufacturers,
renewable
energy
providers,
green
builders
and
others.
Together.
K
These
businesses
account
for
5,000
jobs
in
our
region,
I'm
here,
on
behalf
of
our
members,
to
offer
support
for
bill
1500
112.
That
would
require
energy
benchmarking
for
any
building
with
indoor
floor
space
of
50,000
square
feet
or
more.
We
support
this
bill
for
the
potential
positive
impact
it
would
have
on
both
our
environment
and
our
local
economy.
K
This
is
opening
a
whole
new
market
for
our
local
sustainable
businesses,
as
it
increases
market
demand
for
energy,
efficient
products
and
skilled
workers,
engineers,
facility
managers,
energy
auditors,
sustainability,
consultant
software
developers,
architects,
&,
construction
workers.
Such
outcomes
are
already
being
seen
in
New
York,
which,
for
the
past
several
years,
has
operated
under
legislation,
mandating
all
buildings
of
50,000
square
feet
or
larger
to
benchmark
their
energy
use.
K
Today,
you'll
hear
from
to
svn
members
practical
energy
solutions
in
Independence
LED
that
are
who
are
well-versed
on
energy
benchmarking
and
its
impacts
on
the
environment,
energy
costs
and
the
economy.
I
want
you
to
imagine,
though,
that
as
a
city,
we
are
rich
with
these
types
of
businesses
and
the
jobs
that
they
are
creating.
These
are
jobs
that
can't
be
exported.
K
These
are
jobs
that
will
put
money
on
the
tables
of
families,
and
these
are
jobs
that
will
truly
help
our
to
be
forward-thinking,
world-class
and
sustainable,
and
so
I
think
that
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
not
just
about
buildings.
We're
talking
about
improved
environmental
impact,
we're
talking
about
creating
a
whole
new
market
for
sustainable
businesses
and
we're
talking
about
moving
our
city
into
the
future,
and
so
I
applaud
you
Councilwoman
for
your
leadership
on
both
this
legislation
and
in
the
prior
legislation.
I
applaud
the
rest
of
council
as
well
and
I.
K
L
B
G
L
Thank
you
for
again
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
testify
today
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
this
ordinance
that
requires
both
benchmarking
of
energy,
performance
and
disclosure
of
that
energy
performance
and
both
of
those
have
a
little
bit
different
impact.
So
the
other
day
at
dinner,
I
was
telling
my
kids
that,
after
five
years
of
dropping
the
energy
intensity
use
in
our
house
was
had
gone
up
a
little
bit
to
57,000
BTUs
per
square
foot
and
they
kind
of
stared
at
me
with
a
blank
look
their
teenage
boys.
L
My
energy
performance
is
better
than
ninety
percent
of
other
similar
buildings,
I'm
in
great
shape,
and
everything
I've
done
so
far
is
validate.
That's
great.
You
got
a
score
where
it
shows
that
you're
only
better
than
eleven
percent
of
your
peers.
Now
you
see
I
have
you
know,
maybe
that's
a
negative
thing,
but
it
also
means
you
have
huge
opportunities
to
improve
your
performance
and
maybe
at
very
low
investment
with
high
return
on
investment,
so
the
benchmarking
part
is
critical
and
adding
multi-family
residential.
Now
that
portfolio
manager
has
a
classification
for
multifamily
residential.
L
It's
great
that
the
city
is
looking
to
take
advantage,
I
that
the
disclosure
part
is
also
important
and
I've
I've
heard
in
the
past,
and
you
hear
a
lot
just
in
general
in
the
news
these
days,
less
government
regulation
is
better.
Let's
let
free
market
forces
work
and,
and
those
tend
to
provide
the
best
benefit
for
society.
In
this
case,
and
in
many
other
cases,
government
intervention
is
important,
because
markets
only
work
effectively
when
people
have
complete
information
on
which
to
make
decisions.
Yes,.
B
L
So,
providing
this
information
on
not
just
not
just
for
the
building
owner
to
know
how
their
buildings
doing
but
potential
tenants
potential
purchasers
of
the
property
to
make
sure
that
they
are
aware
of
the
energy
performance.
That's
what
allows
a
market
to
work!
Well,
that
the
closer
to
you
get
to
complete
information,
the
better
decisions,
people
and.
B
L
L
We
have
emissions
of
sulfur
dioxide,
nitrogen
oxides,
lead
mercury,
particulates
that
cause
and
aggravate
asthma
and
children
that
cause
respiratory
distress
in
senior
citizens
and
as
an
aspiring
senior
citizen,
I'd
like
to
see
us
reduce
those
environmental
impacts,
it's
kind
of
a
benefit
to
all
of
society
when
we
take
care
of
that,
just
like
a
mission
testing
for
automobiles,
very
important
for
our
health
and
the
quality
of
our
environment.
So
it's
like
when
you
put
a
bill
like
that
out
in
front
of
people
that
has
a
societal
benefit.
It's
almost
like
asking.
L
L
I,
don't
I
was
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
job
growth
available.
A
lot
of
people
have
already
talked
about
it,
but
having
this
disclosure
will
help
break
down
this
barrier.
That
often
happens
in
buildings
where
a
tenants
paying
the
energy
bill
and
the
owner
the
building,
owns
the
building,
but
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
motivation
to
invest
in
better
energy
performance
because
they
don't
get
a
return
on
that
investment.
The
tenants
who
are
paying
the
energy
bills
get
that
return.
L
So
what
you're
hoping
to
get
out
of
a
bill
like
this
is
because
they're
publicly
disclosing
their
energy
performance.
Maybe
an
owner
that
isn't
going
to
get
a
financial
return
directly
by
investing
in
better
energy
performance
will
make
their
property
a
more
desirable
place
for
people
to
locate
whether
residential,
tenants
or
commercial
tenants.
So
that's,
that's
really.
A
key
element
of
the
disclosure
part
of
this
bill
and.
B
L
A
How
do
we
grab
their
attention
that
these
type
of
measures
really
do
matter,
and
so
you've
enlightened
me
in
on
one
an
argument,
persuasive
argument
that
we
can
use
on
why
something
like
energy
benchmarking,
which
may
be
here
really
does
connect
with
us
on
a
real
human
level,
because
it
boils
down
to
our
health
or
lack
thereof.
And
what
are
we
doing
to
make
sure
our
environments
are
safe
as
a
result
of
energy
benchmarking?
It.
L
A
F
Councilwoman
Reynolds
Brown.
Thank
you
for
a
multi-year
commitment
and
the
leadership
on
this
incredibly
important
initiative.
My
name
is
Charlie
swati
I'm,
the
CEO
of
independence,
LED
and
since
2010,
when
we
brought
our
manufacturing
from
China
to
southeastern
Pennsylvania,
we
have
seen
an
incredible
increase
in
the
appetite
for
energy,
intelligent
illumination,
which
is
core
in
the
sister
relationship
to
benchmarking,
because
measurement
is
a
key
to
management,
which
leads
to
understanding
of
why
lighting
can
have
an
impact
from
28
Navy
ships
to
the
corporate
headquarters
of
Morgan
Stanley
and
many
local
businesses.
F
We
have
demonstrated
cost-effective
energy
reduction
I'm
here
today
in
support
of
amending
section
nine
dash,
3
4,
0
0
2
of
the
Philadelphia
code,
entitled
benchmarking,
energy
and
water
use
to
expand
the
buildings
for
which
the
benchmarking
and
reporting
of
energy
and
water
usage
data
is
required
all
under
certain
terms
and
conditions.
My
support
comes
from
two
decades
of
experience
in
the
energy
sector.
Working
with
commercial
and
industrial
building
owners
and
managers
in
every
case
measurement
has
been
the
key
to
management.
F
M
F
Is
a
key
step
toward
developing
building
intelligence
lighting
is
a
perfect
example.
Lighting
typically
accounts
for
twenty
to
thirty
percent
of
commercial
electricity,
but
it
is
not
separately
metered
from
other
electricity's,
such
as
air
conditioning
computers,
etc.
For
over
50
years,
since
fluorescent
tube
lighting
has
started
dominating
commercial
illumination,
it
has
gone
largely
unchecked
because
the
cost
is
buried
in
the
total
electricity
bills.
F
Benchmarking
will
help
provide
valuable
perspective
on
the
ways
that
savings
and
the
potential,
through
those
initiatives
with
illumination,
have
basically
cost-effective
advantages
on
the
bottom
line
for
the
businesses
and
on
the
environment.
I've
included
today
a
handful
of
sample
illustrations
of
the
actual
savings
that
have
been
demonstrated
through
the
combination
of
benchmarking
and
energy
retrofits
with
LED
lighting.
F
The
first
is
a
sample
exit
stare
for
the
Thomas
Jefferson
University
Edison,
building
north
tower
by
reducing
the
fixture
wattage
from
60
watts
to
32
with
the
LEDs
and
cutting
the
number
of
fixtures
in
half
from
100
250.
The
total
annual
savings
is
thirty
8544
kilowatt
hours
and
over
three
thousand
dollars
a
year
over
the
long
60,000
our
life.
At
this
24-7
runtime,
seven
years
of
illumination,
the
savings
is
twenty
one
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
more.
F
That
is
a
micro
example
of
a
stairwell
that
would
have
the
same
ripple
effect
impact
and
a
multi-family
high-rise,
and
so
I
brought
that
example
to
demonstrate
that
it's
not
necessarily
the
whole
buildings.
What
benchmarking
can
do
is
start
to
set
a
momentum
in
place
to
take
the
low-hanging
fruit
first,
which
is
in
many
cases
the
long
run
time
areas
for
multifamily
like
the
vertical
stair
towers
in
the
hallways.
Another
sample
is
a
parking
garage.
Many
multifamily
properties
have
parking
garages.
In
this
example,
we
were
able
to
reduce
185
wat
fixtures
to
just
37
wats.
F
The
total
savings
is
over
169,000
839
kilowatt
hours
for
a
center
city,
parking
garage
that
adds
up
to
over
seventeen
thousand
dollars
per
year
of
savings
and
over
the
long
life
over
133,000
dollars.
Imagine
the
number
of
parking
garages
and
the
number
of
multifamily
apartment
buildings
that
have
them
that
could
start
to
take
advantage
of
something
as
simple
as
the
lights
in
the
ceiling
where
the
cars
are
parked.
I
include
another
example
for
an
auto
dealership.
This
is
the
McCaffrey
auto
group
for
their
collision
care
by
reducing
the
fixture,
wattage
and
saving
over
fifty
percent.
F
The
annual
kilowatt-hour
reduction
was
almost
200,000
kilowatts
for
almost
20,000
in
savings
and
in
this
case,
over
the
19.6
year,
life
of
the
LEDs,
the
savings
exceeds
three
hundred
and
ninety
thousand
dollars
of
energy
save
another.
Large-Scale
example
is
with
an
N
Houser
Bush
distribution
center.
It's
the
gretzky
air
facility
here
in
Greater
Philadelphia,
and
by
reducing
the
wattage
in
the
case
of
the
fixtures
from
450,
which
is
a
typical
high
bay
down
to
174.
F
There
are
over
seven
hundred
and
twenty-five
thousand
kilowatt
hours
reduced
over
one
hundred
and
one
thousand
dollars
of
savings.
In
each
year
and
over
700,000
over
the
life
of
the
LEDs,
the
final
example
is
with
the
chocolate
works,
which
is
a
multifamily
apartment
building
in
Old
City
Philadelphia
managed
by
the
Reinhold
residential
property
group.
We
were
able
to
find
at
the
twenty
four
seven
areas:
hallways
and
again,
exit
stairs
ways
to
save
over
84,000
in
kilowatt
hour
consumption.
F
Each
year,
that's
over
eighty
four
hundred
dollars,
totaling
almost
sixty
thousand
dollars
over
the
life
of
the
LEDs.
In
this
case,
the
lifetime
carbon
savings
will
be
over
700,000
pounds,
small
steps
that
make
a
big
impact
over
multiple
properties
and
over
multiple
years,
I'm
happy
to
field
any
questions
and
share
with
you
other
feedback
that
I
may
have
received
from
owners.
You
know
through
the
course
of
our
retrofits,
so.
F
F
So
what
we
see
in
the
footprint
of
Philadelphia
job
creation
is
an
incredible
multicultural
opportunity,
because
we
have
boot
camps
and
trainings
and
we
bring
people
in
to
identify
what
type
of
lights
are
in
existing
facilities
and
it's
a
matchmaking
exercise
than
to
work
with
the
executive
and
management
team,
including
our
engineers
to
find
which
products
that
we
don't
always
necessarily
manufacture.
There
are
sourcing
opportunities
for
other
manufacturers
in
the
region,
as
well
as
the
us
to
bring
products
to
the
needs
of
that
for
particular
facility.
F
It
could
be
the
hallway
sconce
lights
for
an
apartment
building.
It
could
be
the
lamp
shade
that
someone
reads
with
when
they
go
to
bed
at
night
in
the
actual
unit
for
multifamily,
and
it
could
be
the
parking
garage
fixture.
So
this
idea
of
soup
to
nuts
application
of
the
right
technology
leads
to
the
installation
requirements
start
by
counting,
which
is
called
lighting
auditing
and
end
by
installation
and
all
the
jobs
that
unfold
in
between.
F
We
call
it
the
ripple
effects,
because
even
the
driver
of
the
truck
it
brings
the
lights
to
the
building
has
a
piece
of
the
story
and
that's
where,
when
they
talk
about
manufacturing
in
the
multiplier
for
job
creation,
it
has
one
of
the
highest
opportunities
to
create
ancillary
jobs
that
are
not
necessarily
our
employees
but
partner
companies.
Sourcing
and
providing
all
the
tools
that
we
need
to
deliver
an
excellent
project.
So.
F
Boyertown
in
norristown
of
the
production
facilities
and
out
of
wayne
pennsylvanian
we're
looking
to
open,
also
facilities
here
inside
of
Philadelphia,
with
some
of
the
groups
that
are
really
rolling
up
their
sleeves
to
look
at
everything
from
the
multifamily
and
some
of
the
commercial
to
the
local
local
churches
and
everything
in
between.
And
the
idea
is
to
bring
almost
a
micro
level
of
training
at
a
mobile
level
to
the
people
that
want
to
look
for
those
jobs
and
I.
Think
together.
F
A
A
M
Cheer
women,
Reynolds
Brown
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
Katie
Bartolotta
and
I
am
the
Philadelphia
outreach
coordinator
for
Penn
future
a
statewide
environmental
advocacy
organization.
Penn
future
is
the
convening
organization
of
the
next
great
city
coalition
of
over
100
member
organizations
whose
mission
is
to
create
cleaner,
safer
and
healthier
Philadelphia
neighborhoods.
As
a
coalition
next
great
city
identifies
areas
where
neighborhood
quality
of
life
in
Philadelphia
can
be
improved
through
cost-effective,
common-sense
policy
solutions
rooted
in
sustainability,
with
strong
leadership
from
the
Nutter
administration
and
members
of
City
Council.
M
The
next
great
city
coalition
has
had
overwhelming
success
in
seeing
our
past
policy
recommendations
come
to
fruition
in
its
2011
policy
agenda,
the
coalition
recommended
that
Philadelphia
City
Council
take
action
to
protect
and
inform
property
buyers
by
requiring
sellers
to
provide
energy
cost
information.
The
city's
benchmarking
law
in
2012
transformed
this
good
plan
into
great
action.
M
Members
of
the
next
great
city
coalition
wholeheartedly
supported
its
passage
I'm
here
to
lend
Penn
future
and
next
great
city
support
to
the
proposed
expansion
of
the
city's
benchmarking
law
to
include
all
commercial
buildings
of
50
thousand
or
more
square
feet
by
requiring
additional
large
commercial
buildings
to
disclose
their
energy
use.
The
following
positive
effects
of
the
initial
benchmarking
lab
will
be
compounded
under
the
current
law.
Buildings
are
encouraged
to
reduce
their
energy
consumption
based
on
standardized
fear,
building
comparisons,
helping
business
owners
make
strategic
decisions
about
investments
in
upgrades
to
yield
maximum
energy
cost
savings.
M
A
2012
report
commissioned
by
the
California
Public
Utilities
Commission,
found
that
benchmarking
was
highly
correlated
with
building
energy
improvements
and
strongly
encourage
participation
in
utility
and
incentive
programs.
Additionally,
energy
benchmarking
has
a
significant
environmental
benefit.
A
strategic
building
energy
use
reduction
helps
to
reduce
the
city's
carbon
footprint.
According
to
the
mayor's
office
of
sustainability,
building
energy
use
accounts
for
more
than
sixty
percent
of
Philadelphia's
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
Making
reductions
in
energy
use
a
key
component
of
mitigating
climate
change
locally.
M
Lastly,
by
including
more
buildings
under
the
city's
current
benchmarking
law,
we
continue
to
expand
the
market
for
energy
efficiency
services,
a
boon
to
the
local
job
economy.
A
recent
survey
by
the
Institute
for
market
transformation
of
markets,
with
existing
benchmarking
lawns,
found
that
the
local
businesses
found
that
local
businesses
experiencing
significant
new
demand
for
energy
efficiency
services
and
were
able
to
expand
their
payrolls
hire
new
employees
as
a
result.
M
By
expanding
the
city's
benchmarking
law
to
include
all
commercial
buildings
of
fifty
thousand
or
more
square
feet,
we
stand
to
expand
the
laws
proven
externalities
cost
savings,
environmental
benefits
and
job
growth,
both
Penn
future
and
the
next
great
city
urged
the
passage
of
bill
number
1,
500
11.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you.
J
My
name
is
Salim
Chapman
good
morning,
madam
chairwoman
and
the
distinguished
members
of
the
committee
for
the
environment.
Thank
you
for
hosting
this
hearing.
My
name
is
Salim
Chapman
and
I'm.
The
director
of
policy
and
strategy
for
the
Clean
Air
Council,
the
Clean
Air
Council,
has
been
an
environmental
health
advocate
in
Philadelphia
region,
since
nineteen
sixty-seven
his
active
on
a
number
of
environmental
issues.
The
cleaner
council
is
appreciative
of
this
opportunity
to
speak
in
support
of
adopting
bill
number
1,
500
11,
which
has,
since
the
coverage
of
energy
benchmarking
to
include
residential
buildings.
J
The
number
1
500
11
is
a
powerful
catalyst
for
promoting
energy
efficiency
and
building
environments.
A
recent
analysis
about
a
US
Environmental
Protection
Agency,
found
that
buildings
that
are
benchmarks,
ava
average
of
seven
percent
over
a
period
of
three
years
mandate
and
disclosure
of
building
energy
use,
increases
transparency
and
resolves
the
classic
renters
dilemma.
Typically,
owners
have
little
incentive
to
pay
for
improvements
since
tenants
pay
to
energy
costs
of
any
fish
buildings.
J
However,
as
occupants
become
more
knowledgeable
of
the
buildings,
relative
performance
among
similar
structures,
owners
are
persuaded
to
implement
upgrades
to
remain
competitive
in
real
estate
markets.
Advanced
in
building
energy
efficiency
is
a
critical
need.
The
single
largest
user
of
energy
in
the
United
States
is
the
building
sector,
accounting
for
approximately
forty
percent
of
total
energy
consumption
harbor
net
cities.
That
figure
can
be
considerably
higher,
often
6770
and
even
75%.
J
However,
a
large
fraction
of
the
energy
that
flows
through
buildings
is
often
wasted.
This
is
particularly
true
of
Philadelphia.
Before
average
age
of
nineteen
sixty
a
disproportionate
share
of
Philadelphia
buildings
were
constructed
prior
to
the
implementation
of
modern
building
codes.
Energy
efficiency
is
important
to
ensure
against
rising
energy
costs.
Between
2009
and
2014.
The
price
of
electricity
in
the
united
states
increased
6.4
percent
when
natural
gas
was
as
much
as
13.8
percent.
J
According
to
the
Consumer
Price
Index
energy
costs
in
Philadelphia,
however,
ac's
national
averages
a
Philadelphia
family
of
four
living
in
a
property
built
in
nineteen
sixty
pays
an
average
cost
of
2941
dollars
in
energy
costs.
The
national
average
is
only
2,200.
Last
November
energy
costs
was
twenty
four
percent
higher
in
Philadelphia
compared
the
national
averages
and
during
the
same
period,
Philadelphia
households
pay
10.1
percent
more
than
the
national
average
for
utility
costs.
This
is
significant,
given
a
social,
economic,
demographics
of
Philadelphia
residents.
Energy
costs
is
a
significant
contributor
to
economic
hardship.
J
Philadelphia
has
one
of
the
highest
rates
of
deep
poverty,
we're
nearly
100
1800
and
excusing
1085
thousand
people,
including
about
60,000
children,
reside
households
with
income,
less
than
half
the
poverty
rate
living
in
at
least
energy
efficient
buildings,
low
income
households
spend
a
higher
percentage
of
their
income
on
energy
costs
and,
while
energy
expended
for
the
average
u.s.
household
accounts
for
only
five
point,
five
percent
of
total
income-
low-income
individuals
spend
between
fifteen
to
twenty
percent
under
melting
energy
costs.
J
So,
while
I
applaud
this
committee
for
taking
this
considerable
step
in
the
right
direction,
our
urge
you
to
consider
pursuing
a
more
comprehensive
measure
so
that
a
broader
constituency
will
benefit
from
the
advantages
provided
by
energy
benchmarking.
The
square
footage
structural
upon
which
energy
benchmarking
becomes
applicable
should
be
reduced.
Other
jurisdiction
has
already
pursued
similar
measures,
for
instance
in
New
York
requirements
that
buildings
greater
than
only
10,000
square
feet
must
report
energy
consumption
for
all
units.
J
N
Morning,
Logan:
well,
they
also
from
the
clean
air
council.
We
thank
you
for
this
opportunity.
The
cleaner
council
does
support
this
legislation
and
we
hope
that
it
passes.
So
one
thing
that
that
my
colleague
mr.
Chapman
pointed
out
was
the
clean
air
council
would
like
to
see
over
the
next
five
years,
the
reduction
from
50,000
square
feet
down
to
5,000
square
feet.
One
of
the
things
I,
don't
think,
was
discussed
much
today,
but
my
colleague
did
discuss
it
in
his
testimony.
Low-Income
people
are
suffering
from
utility
bills.
N
They
are
deciding
between
putting
food
on
the
table
or
heating
their
homes
in
the
wintertime
or
calling
them
in
the
summertime
when
it's
when
it's
very
hot
I
have
spoken
with
hundreds
of
people
throughout
Philadelphia,
at
schools,
the
neighborhood
community,
centers
and
in
senior
citizen
homes
and
energy
bills
are
a
real
problem
in
the
city.
You
would
be
ignorant
today
if
you
went
shopping
for
a
car
and
you
didn't
look
at
the
sticker
on
the
window
that
showed
you
the
miles
per
gallon
of
that
car.
N
N
It
sounds
like
a
great
number
I
think.
One
testimony
today
said
that
it
was
700
buildings.
We'd,
really
like
to
see
you
over
the
next
five
years,
lower
that
to
hit
a
much
larger
percentage
of
buildings
in
Philadelphia
5,000
square
feet.
New
York
now
has
10,000
square
feet.
We
think
the
utilities
are
ready
to
do
50,000
square
feet
and
we
think
in
the
next
five
years,
they'll
be
ready
to
do
5,000
square
feet.
N
There's
no
reason
why
I
should
be
applying
for
a
rental
as
a
low-income
resident
of
you
and
not
know
what
the
energy
bills
were
for
the
last
five
ten
years
of
the
building.
Why
should
I
pay
forty
percent
of
my
take-home
income
to
utility
bills
when
my
neighbor
next
door?
They
have
a
good
good
landlord,
their
landlord
fixed,
the
leaky
roof
and
there
are
only
paying
fifteen
percent
of
their
of
their
take-home
income.
Well,.
A
For
sure,
you
present
a
very,
very
compelling
argument
and
it
de-stresses
me
and
makes
me
very
sad.
We
don't
factor
in
families
in
the
way
that
you
just
described
it's
real
and
councilman
Jones
often
talks
about
how
families
have
to
choose
between
paying
their
rent
and
paying
their
utility
bill.
So
I'd
like
to
invite
the
office
of
sustainability
back
to
the
table,
and
that's
hear
your
response
reaction
or
comment
on
this
recommendation.
A
D
Absolutely
Thank
You
Councilwoman
for
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
respond.
We
absolutely
agree
with
the
Clean
Air
Council
that
this
is
a
critical
issue
for
Philadelphia's
families.
We
would
like
to
see
obviously
additional
resources
dedicated
towards
any
kind
of
efforts
to
improve
the
quality
of
housing
in
Philadelphia.
The
concern
that
our
office
would
have
with
a
lowering
of
the
size
threshold
to
5,000
square
feet
is
twofold.
First,
from
the
utility
perspective,
there
is
currently
not
an
ability
to
transfer
data
in
a
way
that
would
be
sufficiently
automated
for
building
owners
of
that
size.
D
It's
you
know
it's
a
free
program
that
we're
asking
larger
building
owners
to
use,
but
there
is
some
time
involved
and
we
would
not
want
to
unduly
burden
smaller
building
owners
with
that
requirement
at
this
time
there
are
also
some
data
privacy
concerns
involved
with
smaller
buildings
in
cities
that
have
similar
requirement
regulator.
This.
A
A
B
D
The
regulator's,
okay,
that
they're
there
will
be
some
data
privacy
concerns
at
that
threshold.
The
second
concern
our
office
would
have
would
be
just
in
terms
of
implementing
that
program
with
the
current
resources
that
our
office
has
I.
Think
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
our
director
to
speak
a
little
bit
more
on
that.
O
Benchmarking
and
disclosure
laws
like
what
we
have
on
the
books
and
the
ones
we're
talking
about
today.
So
I
think
it's
a
separate
conversation
and
one
that
we're
happy
to
have
and
then
the
other
issue.
There
is
one
that's
more
tied
to
funding
and
programming,
so
we
have
programs
that
are
run
by
the
office
of
housing
and
community
development
that
implement
federal
dollars
to
help
low-income
residents
to
make
energy
upgrades
to
their
buildings.
So
basic
system
repairs
the
LIHEAP
program,
I.
O
Think
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
us
to
think
about
how
we
can
improve
those
programs
and
funding
constraints
are
certainly
a
reality,
but
I
think
there's
a
real
opportunity
to
look
at
how
we
program
some
of
those
dollars
and
could
do
more
with
them
and
potentially
look
for
other
dollars
to
pool
so
that
we
can
go
deeper
into
those
homes
that
we
have
the
opportunity
to
do.
Work
in
so
I
think,
there's
a
programmatic
element
and
then
a
separate
legislative
element
that
we'd
be
happy
to
talk
about
it
a
later
date.
Well,.
A
I
will
go
on
record
then
to
say
that
that
needs
to
be
our
next
level
of
interest
in
our
next
level
of
focus
because
we're
a
smart
government.
We
got
a
professionals
who
figure
it
out
and
if
New
York
can
figure
it
out
and
better
serve
citizens
who
are
probably
most
in
need,
then
we
as
a
government
over
five
years,
because
I
heard
the
caveat,
let's
figure
out
how
we
can
do
this
strategically
intentionally
over
the
next
five
years,
recognizing
fully
that
it
takes
resources
and
it
takes
resources
and
it
takes
resources.
A
But
what
we
know
is,
as
president
vice
president
biden
said
it
best.
You
don't
have
to
tell
me
your
priorities.
Show
me
your
budget
and
I'll.
Tell
you
your
priorities.
So
my
ass
is
that
we
take
this
on
collectively
as
a
next
opportunity,
so
that
we
can
indeed
capture
those
thousands
of
citizens
that
don't
have
a
voice
when
it
comes
to
progressive
future
initiatives.
Like
this,
I
just.
O
Want
to
respond
one
more
time
that
lowering
the
threshold
kind
of
feels
right,
but
it's
not
necessarily
the
most
strategic
move
and
the
best
use
of
resources
to
get
to
what
I
think
the
goal
clean
our
council
was
articulating
is
so
just
want
to
go
on
record,
saying
that
there's
there's
kind
of
a
natural,
I
think,
inclination
to
think
about
lowering
the
threshold
to
capture
more.
But.
A
Okay,
all
right
then
you're,
good.
Okay,
then,
thank
you
very
much.
So
our
last
a
witness.
If
you
could
please
come
forward,
then
we're
going
to
move
to
take
an
amendment
on
this
bill,
a
christine
young,
Gertz,
esquire
government
affairs
director
for
the
Pennsylvania
Apartment
Association,
please
it's
our
last
witness
and
then
we're
going
to
move
to
take
action
on
this
measure.
P
B
P
And
that,
as
you
just
said,
what
I
wanted
to
say-
and
you
summed
it
up
beautifully
in
terms
of
going
forward
with
benchmarking
mandates,
I
think
you
said
strategic
dialogue,
and
that
was
just
the
last
thing.
I
wanted
to
ask
for
going
forward
and
thank
you
personally
and
publicly
for
any
issue.
You
tackle.
You
never
passed
the
bill
and
throw
away
the
key
on
the
issue.
Your
door
has
always
been
open
to
me
in
bringing
up
all
the
devil
in
the
details
that
that
come
with
the
experience
of
compliance
with.
P
P
Efficiency,
it's
in
their
best
interest
to
be
there.
They
know
their
bottom
line
depends
on
delivering
a
good
product
and
delivery
of
a
product
means
that
they
can
boast
about
the
the
most
professional
state-of-the-art
management
standards
that
they
adhere
to
so
but
again
devil
in
the
detail
so
going
forward.
Can
we
please
be
a
part
of
the
dialogue
of.
P
Going
to
be
any
number
of
compliance
issues,
our
members
are
very
concerned
about
the
privacy
of
their
their
residents
and
hopefully,
the
utility
companies
who
have
assured
that
they
can
provide
the
aggregate
information
which
is
really
the
crux.
When
it
comes
to
benchmarking.
That's
the
pivotal
thing:
the
aggregate
information,
the
property
is
the
most
important
thing,
or
else
the
exercises
pointless
agreed.
A
P
A
A
Yes,
we
have
an
assignment
to
tackle
in
a
very
thoughtful
way
the
challenge
you've
put
forth
because
all
of
us
on
this
side
of
the
table
care
about
the
entire
citizenry
of
our
city
and
I
mentioned
to
the
leadership
that
the
mayor's
office
of
sustainability
that
too
often
I
walk
into
rooms.
We
were
discussing
energy
and
the
future
and
the
environment
sustainability.
Now
the
only
one
in
there
who
looks
like
me.
That's
a
problem.
A
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
reach
deep
and
we
reach
wide
to
capture
those
who
typically
don't
get
to
the
table,
because
their
lives
of
focus
on
trying
to
put
food
on
the
table.
Okay,
then,
thank
you
very,
very
much
so
with
that
we
will
now
go
into
the
public
meeting.
The
chair
recognizes
councilmember
04
motion
to
amend
bill
number
1,
500
11.
Thank.
B
A
Those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye,
first,
a
call
for
a
second
I
good.
Thank
you
very,
very
much
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye,
all
those
opposed
very
well
I
move
that
build
number
1,
500
11,
as
amended,
be
reported
out
of
this
committee
with
a
favorable
recommendation
that
the
rules
of
council
be
suspended.
So
it's
permit.
First
reading
at
our
next
scheduled
session
of
city
counts,
so
fuggin.
B
A
In
favor,
say:
aye
all
those
opposed
seein
invisible
has
been
approved
out
of
this
committee
with
a
favorable
recommendation.
We
want
to
thank
all
of
you
who
showed
up
who
care
about
this
issue
who
care
about
the
future.
Thank
you
for
your
expertise
in
your
testimony.
This
concludes
there's
a
meeting
on
the
environment
and
sustainability.
Thank
you
very
much.