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From YouTube: Committee on the Environment 10-15-2020
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The Committee on the Environment of the Council of the City of Philadelphia held a Public Hearing on Thursday, October 15, 2020, at 2:30 PM, in a remote manner using Microsoft® Teams to hear testimony on the following items:
200431 Resolution authorizing the Committee on the Environment to conduct hearings to investigate challenges and solutions to street litter and waste disposal systems in the wake of COVID 19 in the City of Philadelphia.
A
A
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to
the
current
public
health
emergency
city,
council
committees
are
currently
meeting
remotely,
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are
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A
I
now
note
that
the
hour
has
come.
Miss
alford.
Will
you
please
call
the
role
to
take
attendance
members
that
are
in
attendance?
Will
please
indicate
that
you
are
present
when
your
name
is
called
also.
Please
say
a
few
brief
words
when
responding
so
that
your
image
will
be
displayed
on
screen
when
you
speak.
D
C
E
F
Good
afternoon
council,
member
kgr
and
chair,
thank
you
for
bringing
together
this
hearing
this
afternoon.
Look
forward
to
the
conversation
and
the
deliberations.
A
A
Before
we
begin
to
hear
testimony
from
the
witnesses
we
have
for
today,
everyone
who
has
been
invited
to
the
meeting
to
testify
should
be
aware
that
this
public
hearing
is
being
recorded,
because
the
hearing
is
public
participants
and
viewers
have
no
reasonable
expectation
of
privacy.
By
continuing
to
be
in
the
meeting,
you
are
consenting
to
being
recorded
additionally
prior
to
recognizing
members
for
the
questions
or
comments
they
have
for
witnesses.
A
A
So,
thank
you
all
so
much
for
joining
us
today.
I
am
truly
very
excited
about
this
conversation.
Following
the
challenges
over
the
summer,
the
budget
constraints
we
are
facing,
as
well
as
the
impacts
we
are
already
seeing
from
climate
change.
I
wanted
to
convene
a
conversation
around
how
we
continue
to
prioritize
our
zero
waste
goals
in
the
wake
of
covet
19..
A
I
also
want
us
to
think
creatively
about
how
we
can
use
sustainable
waste
management
to
drive
economic
growth,
business
development
and
job
creation.
That's
why
I've
identified
two
subsections
of
focus
for
this
hearing.
Incentivizing
a
circular
economy
and
managing
organics
witnesses
joining
us
together
have
a
lot
of
expertise
to
offer
both
on
what
we
are
currently
doing
in
these
areas,
as
well
as
what
other
cities
have
done
and
how
we
can
learn
from
their
best
practices.
A
It
is
my
hope
that
this
will
be
a
positive
conversation
focus
on
solutions.
Let
me
repeat:
it
is
my
hope
that
this
will
be
a
positive
conversation
focused
on
solutions
for
waste
management
that
will
help
us
create
a
climate
resilient,
healthy
and
economically
vibrant
city
in
the
wake
of
covet
19.,
and
with
that
I
wanted
to
pause
to
recognize
any
of
my
colleagues
that
may
have
any
opening
remarks.
A
A
Brezzi
excellent,
please
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
proceed
with
your
testimony.
Welcome
commissioner
williams.
G
Thank
you,
council
person,
gilmore
richardson
good
afternoon,
chairperson
gilmore
richardson
and
members
of
the
committee
on
the
environment.
My
name
is
carlton
williams,
commissioner
of
the
streets
department,
I'm
here
to
offer
the
following
testimony
on
resolution
200431
introduced
by
chairperson
gilmore
richardson,
I'm
joined
today
by
street's
environmental
planning,
director
for
sanitation,
scott
mcgrath
and
streets
recycling
program
director,
kyle
lewis.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
join
you
in
discussing
the
challenges
and
solutions
to
street
litter
and
waste
disposal.
G
In
the
wake
of
covet
19.,
like
most
sanitation
departments
across
the
nation,
our
sanitation
division
has
experienced
significant
impacts
related
to
covet
19.,
most
notably
a
30
increase
in
curbside
trash
collections.
The
added
tonnage,
staffing
and
attendance
challenges,
along
with
incidents
of
severe
weather,
created
the
perfect
storm
for
sanitation
operations.
The
increased
tonnage
contributed
to
delays
and
collections
to
put
the
30
average
increase
tonnage
into
perspective.
A
25
increase
in
tonnage
requires
at
minimum
and
additional
days
collection
each
week
to
address
the
challenges.
G
The
department
has
implemented
its
plan
to
add
150
temporary
work
laborers
to
assist
with
the
unprecedented
increase
in
trash
tonnage,
which
has
helped
stabilize
collections
and
return
operations
to
a
path
towards
normal
collections.
The
department
has
also
launched
a
pickup
phl
as
a
new
tool
for
the
public
to
monitor
the
status
of
collections
and,
in
addition
to
this
tools
used
by
the
public,
pickup
ph,
brings
together.
Gps
tracking
and
route
management
functions
that
help
the
sanitation
division
more
efficiently,
manage
its
resources,
the
new
tool
aids
in
facilitating
route,
optimization
to
reduce
fuel
consumption
and
emissions.
G
The
sanitation
division
also
has
been
coordinating
with
the
sustainability
office
and
the
parks
and
recreation
department
on
initiatives
started
under
the
zero
waste
and
litter
cabinet,
such
as
the
commercial
waste
tracking
system,
the
municipal
building
waste
audit
program,
the
community
compressed
network
and
urban
composting
permit
in
pollock,
and
supports
technical
assistance
to
10
to
15
businesses
citywide
to
implement
food
waste
reduction
strategies.
The
department
is
also
working
to
continue
to
support
subcommittees,
such
as
enforcement
and
short
dumping
and
waste
reduction.
G
A
legal
dumping
continues
to
be
a
major
challenge
across
the
city
for
which
the
department
deploys
a
significant
number
of
resources
to
address.
The
department
continues
to
use,
monitor
cameras
and
heavily
dumped
areas
and
dispatches
our
short-term
crews
to
capture
the
mounds
of
tires
construction
debris
and
trash
dumped
on
streets
and
under
used
in
under
and
in
underutilized
or
less
traffic
areas.
G
Beyond
these
tips,
the
sanitation
division
has
created
several
new
steps
to
improve
operations
and
gain
a
better
understanding
of
the
waste
stream,
so
that
we
can
better
utilize
our
resources
to
reduce
and
manage
the
trash
we
collect
in
ways
that
minimize
the
need
for
disposal
and
landfill
or
resource
recovery
facility.
At
this
point,
I
will
ask
our
recycling,
director
and
environmental
planning
director
to
provide
a
more
detailed
overview
of
the
sanitation
division's
efforts
to
operationalize
the
city's
zero
waste.
H
Goals:
scott,
yes
good
morning,
or
I
should
say
good
afternoon,
council
members.
My
name
is
scott
mcgrath
environmental
planning,
director
of
streets
department,
sanitation
division.
Over
the
summer,
the
department
has
been
working
with
its
contractors
to
expand
services
to
its
sanitation,
convenience
centers.
In
addition
to
accepting
electronics,
we've
added
cfl
lights,
batteries
fluorescent
lights
also,
we've
also
been
working
closely
with
the
department
of
environmental
protection
to
get
our
household
hazardous
waste
program,
re-permitted,
which
we
were
successful
at
doing
this.
H
The
first
event
was
at
63rd
street
back
in
september,
and
we
have
a
another
series
of
events
on
october
23rd
and
24th
of
the
state
road
in
ashburner.
In
the
northeast
section
of
the
city.
H
The
department
is
also
working
with
waste
management
on
the
utilization
of
a
provision
in
our
disposal
contract
to
separate
and
recover
food
waste
from
our
waste
stream.
H
This
month,
the
sanitation
division
consultant
ben
atlantic
waste
consultants
or
msw
began
a
comprehensive
assessment
of
waste
collection
and
management
practices
in
november
msw
will
be
starting
a
waste
composition.
Analysis
of
our
trash,
which
will
involve
sampling
loads
and
separating
the
samples
into
over
40
categories.
Msw
will
also
be
conducting
a
similar
analysis
of
our
curbside
recycling.
H
This
data
will
assist
in
helping
the
division,
develop
and
adjust
strategies
to
manage
our
waste
stream.
As
it's
changed
as
a
result
of
covid19
and
to
minimize
the
amount
of
waste
that
is
sent
for
disposal
in
landfills
or
resource
recovery
facilities,
the
department's
consultant
will
be
doing
an
assessment
that
is
wide-ranging
and
will
be
including
a
benchmarking
of
what
other
cities
are
doing.
H
H
This
work
is
already
started
and
we'll
take
about
six
months
to
complete
the
department
will
share
the
results
of
the
study
with
city,
council
and
staff.
As
we
proceed,
our
consultant
is
also
here
today,
we'll
be
presenting
some
testimony
after
kyle
lewis
speaks.
I
We
recycling
and
waste
management
staff
regularly
visited
each
sanitation
district,
receiving
feedback
and
sharing
training
information
with
crews
and
drivers
as
they
embarked
on
their
routes.
We
also
instituted
monthly
recycling,
training,
trainings
for
key
staff
and
recycling
ticketing
for
violations
was
suspended
and
our
focus
was
on
increased
staff,
training
and
public
education
when
covert
19
hit.
We
were
faced
with
whether
to
continue,
suspend
or
alter
recycling
collections,
since
the
priority
was
collecting
an
extra
day
or
more
of
trash
setups
to
mitigate
odors,
vermin,
insects,
litter
conditions
and
adverse
health
effects.
I
New
york
and
new
york
city
and
dc
experienced
similar
challenges.
Baltimore
suspended
their
recycling
all
together
in
late
august,
through
november
many
smaller
municipalities,
estimated
by
the
solid
waste
in
the
solid
waste
association
of
north
america,
at
50
to
60
municipalities,
they've
cut
their
recycling
programs
all
together
in
an
effort
to
reduce
the
amount
of
waste
set
out
of
the
curve.
The
streets
department
has
lost,
launched
a
public
education
campaign
entitled
curb
your
waste
to
provide
a
roadmap.
I
Sorry
about
that
to
provide
a
road
map
to
help
residents
reduce
their
waste
generation.
City
council
has
received
a
copy
of
the
one
page
document
and
that
information
was
made
into
a
postcard
that
was
sent
out
to
over
425
city
residents
over
the
past
couple
of
weeks.
Some
of
you
may
received
it.
I
I
The
department
has
received
a
grant
from
the
recycling
partnership
funded
by
closed
loop
partners
to
investigate
a
variety
of
strategies
for
messaging
and
delivery
to
residents
to
reduce
recycling
contamination,
we're
also
working
on
adding
electric
charging
stations
at
more
of
our
facilities
to
increase
our
fleet
of
electric
vehicles
and
recently
purchase
compactor
trucks
powered
by
compressed
natural
gas.
The
streets
department
continues
to
pursue
clean,
efficient
fuel
alternatives
in
tests
and
trials
as
new
climate
adaptive
fuel
alternatives
coming
to
market.
I
Sorry,
our
municipal,
solid
waste
efforts
are
focused
on
efficiency
and
waste
reduction,
while
recycling
engages
to
reduce
contamination.
These
efforts
combine
to
make
a
more
environmentally
and
work
a
friendly
operation.
The
solutions
to
proper
waste
management
are
long-term
and
must
involve
the
collective
we
we
all
want
clean
air
and
water.
We
thank
the
residents
of
philadelphia
for
their
patience
during
this
time
and
we
thank
you
all
for
the
concerns.
As
we
progress
through
and
beyond
this
crisis
to
a
more
sustainable
city,
we
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
testify.
I
Today
we
have
phil
brazier
our
consultant
here
and
we'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
J
J
I'd
also
like
to
disclose
that
I
was
the
city
philadelphia's
recycling
director
for
four
years
up
until
20
april
2016,
and
in
that
role
I
did
get
me
and
interact
with
a
number
of
committee
members
and
their
staff
as
well
as
fellow
panelists,
and
I
remain
you
know,
immensely
proud
of
my
service
in
philadelphia
and
the
relationships
that
I
was
able
to
forge
with
city
leaders,
staff
and
stakeholders
alike.
J
J
Our
evaluation
process
focuses
on
a
very
quantitative
data-driven
approach
to
measure
operational
and
financial
performance,
so
that
operations,
managers
and
elected
officials
can
understand
and
correct
any
deficiencies
in
the
system,
as
the
issues
will
among
the
issues
we'll
be
examining
are
the
city's
routing
system,
city
code,
sanitation
regulations
and
operational
policies,
divisions
organization,
fleet
management
and
cost
of
services.
J
This
effort
will
include
research
and
benchmarking
philadelphia
against
other
large
cities.
Indeed,
one
of
the
first
deliverables
will
be
a
comparison
of
how
covet
19
has
impacted
the
benchmark
cities
and
how
they
have
responded,
and
it's
on
that
last
point,
I
would
like
to
reiterate
that
philadelphia's
solid
waste
recycling
system
is
not
alone,
as
it
manages
under
covet
19.
J
as
a
consulting
firm
with
public
sector
clients
across
the
u.s.
We
are
familiar
with
those
impacts
which,
of
course,
include
increased
residential
trash
volumes,
decreased
commercial
volumes,
recycling
program,
suspensions
and
increased
risk
to
sanitation
workers
who,
even
prior
to
covet
19,
performed
the
fifth
most
dangerous
occupation.
According
to
the
u.s
bureau
of
labor
statistics.
J
A
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you
all
for
your
testimony
and
I
just
wanted
to
go
back
to
offer
my
thanks
and
kudos
to
commissioner
williams
to
mr
mcgrath
to
miss
lewis,
who
is
very
busy
working
hard
for
the
city.
We
heard
that
phone
ringing
and
I
wanted
to
tell
you
I
do
have
my
postcard.
A
I
received
it
in
the
mail
10
tips
on
how
to
curb
your
waste
from
the
streets
department,
so
we're
asking
all
residents
and
community
members
to
look
out
for
that.
But
I
wanted
to
to
thank
you
all
so
much
for
the
work
that
you
all
have
been
doing.
I
had
the
opportunity
to
visit
with
a
sanitation
crew
in
the
kensington
area.
Earlier
this
summer
it
was
a
very
hot
day.
A
I
was
on
the
entire
route
for
three
hours
and
I
just
want
to
commend
you
all
for
how
you
have
been
able
to
arise
to
the
occasion
and
step
up
to
the
challenges
that
we
have
faced,
not
only
since
2019,
but
in
the
wake
of
covet
19,
and
I
don't
know
that
we
could
have
ever
imagined
where
we
were
in
this
summer.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
you
publicly
for
how
you
all
have
stood
up
to
the
challenge
and
really
really
helped
us
to
to
face
this
issue.
A
I
just
have
a
few
quick
questions
that
I
wanted
to
get
on
the
record
and
then
I'll
recognize
other
members
of
the
committee.
As
indicated
in
the
chat
now
that
you
are
adopting
work
that
was
previously
led
by
the
zero
waste
cabinet,
what
resources
do
you
think
are
necessary
in
order
to
ensure
that
work
continues
to
grow.
G
First
of
all,
council
member
richardson,
certainly
is
a
pleasure
and
I'm
glad
you
had
the
opportunity
to
experience
firsthand
what
our
workers
go
through
in
dealing
with
waste
each
and
every
day,
and
so
this
resolution
is
certainly
very
timely
when
it
comes
down
to
addressing
waste
and
and-
and
I
think
covet
19
has
taught
us
that
it's
time
to
take
a
new
look
on
how
products
are
generated
and
how
they're
disposed
of
and
to
make
sure
that
we
get
the
maximum
of
usage
out
of
every
product
that
is
created
with.
G
That
being
said,
we've
adopted
much
of
the
zero
waste
plan
in
our
existing
departments.
It
was
already
established
by
using
the
collaboration
of
a
number
of
departments,
streets
being
kind
of
the
anchor
of
of
those
departments,
but
certainly
the
office
of
environmental
sustainability,
which
also
sits
under
otis
and
christine
knapp,
is
on
the
phone
with
us
today,
parks
and
recreation
that
was
noted,
catherine,
is
also
on
the
phone
with
us
today
on
the
in
the
hearing
with
us.
So
I
think
the
structure
of
the
zero
waste
and
litter
cabinet
continues.
G
We
used
in-house
resources
to
get
things
done
like
the
litter
index
across
the
city
of
philadelphia.
Certainly
we
work
closely
with
other
departments
and
we
will
continue
to
do
so.
For
example,
mr
mcgrath
mentioned
earlier
today.
Our
our
vision
to
try
to
bring
composting
city-wide
here
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
is
going
to
require
the
coordination
between
multiple
departments,
specifically
water
water
department.
So
I
I
think
we
have
the
structure
in
place
to
carry
out
the
foundation.
G
I
think
the
zero
waste
and
litter
cabinet,
when
it's
it
was
in
its
formation
laid
the
foundation
for
us
to
actually
implement
many
of
the
initiatives
that
were
established.
A
Excellent,
thank
you
so
much,
mr
commissioner,
and
very
quickly
before
I
go
to
my
next
question.
I
just
want
to
recognize
the
presence
of
our
council
member
helen
kim
also
a
member
of
the
committee
on
environment.
Thank
you
so
much
councilmember
kim
for
joining
us
I'll
now
go
back
to
my
next
question.
I'm
really
excited
about
the
new
pickup
phl
feature.
How
will
this
new
tool
help
you
modernize
collections
and
will
there
be
other
features
of
this
tool
to
help
residents
with
properly
setting
up
trash
and
recycling.
G
G
19
and
covet19
actually
made
it,
certainly
a
very
usable
tool
now
more
than
ever,
but
we
want
to
be
able
to
give
the
public
updated
information
in
real
time
without
having
them
have
to
wonder
or
guess
or
call
3-1-1,
and
I
think
when
we
had
the
crisis,
3-1-1
was
inundated
with
over
3
500
phone
calls
at
its
peak
for
ready
to
miss
collections.
G
I
think
if
people
had
this
tool
and
and
council
member
gautier
can
certainly
attest
to
it,
because
that
was
one
of
her
biggest
concerns
is
that
people
didn't
know
when
and
when
our
trash
and
what
type
of
schedule
they
were
on,
but
this
tool
gives
them
a
real
time
snapshot
of
where
the
trucks
are
in
any
given
day.
So,
if
we're
a
day
behind
in
certain
neighborhoods,
the
challenge
for
us
was
some
days.
We
would
be
up
in
certain
areas.
G
Some
days
we'll
be
a
day
behind
some
day,
we'll
be
three
days
behind,
and
people
just
didn't
know,
but
this
tool
actually
allows
you
to
pinpoint
the
location
time
and
where
those
trucks
are
actually
working.
So
people
have
under
general
understanding
on
what
day
they're
working
on
and
how
long
it
would
take
to
get
them,
so
they
can
manage
their
trash
collection.
That
was
big
for
us
to
be
able
to
launch
that
covent
19
helped
us
speed
it
up.
We
had
hoped
to
get
it
up
before
that,
but
technology.
G
As
you
know,
technology
can
sometimes
be
challenging,
especially
when
you're
working
across
multiple
systems,
so
we're
happy
that
that
tool
does
that
for
the
public,
for
us
there's
some
backing
data
that
it
also
does.
We
don't
show
this
publicly.
However,
you
can
look
at
the
number
of
trucks
that
you
deploy
the
time
that
they
are
dispatched
the
time
that
their
own
route,
how
long
it
takes
to
get
on
a
route
completed,
how
long
it
takes
to
go
to
and
from
a
transfer
station
and,
ultimately
how
long
it
takes
to
end
their
day.
G
This
helps
us
tremendously
in
terms
of
managers
that
data
is
usually
given
by
word
of
mouth
or
through
you
know,
manual
systems,
which
means
handwritten
documents
and
notes.
Now
we're
eliminating
all
that,
where
all
of
that
information
is
then
uploaded
into
a
system,
and
we
can
track
it,
and
we
can
monitor
it
over
periods
of
time
to
make
sure
that
we
can
do
route
adjustments
and
do
route
optimization
in-house.
A
system
like
that
will
probably
cost
a
couple
hundred
thousands
of
dollars.
G
I'm
sure
phil,
brzee
and
scott
mcgrath
can
tell
you
that
if
we
bought
in
an
outside
consultant
to
do
that,
it
would
cost
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
for
us
to
implement
that
type
of
system.
However,
we
were
able
to
do
it
with
in-house
staff,
certainly
want
to
give
a
big
shout
out
to
oit,
because
they
designed
and
built
the
system,
along
with
the
other
platforms,
a
paid
phl
and
permit
phl,
but
it
does
so
much
more
and
help
us
manage
our
department
in
real
time.
G
Things
that
we
used
to
have
to
do
manually
we
no
longer
have
to
do.
We
can
go
on
to
the
computer
site.
Go
down
by
truck
and
look
at
the
routes,
look
at
the
timing
on
the
routes
and
make
sure
that
the
trash
is
done
as
efficiently
and
effectively
as
possible.
A
That
is
tremendous,
and
I
think
you
know
that
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
really
operationalize
efficiency
in
city
government.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
that
work.
I'm
really
excited
about
that.
I
have
one
last
question
before
I
recognize
our
vice
chair
council
member
bass
for
her
question,
but
you
mentioned
in
one
of
your
testimony.
You
mentioned
illegal
dumping,
especially
in
communities
of
color.
It
continues
to
be
a
significant
problem.
A
You
know,
in
addition
to
the
enforcement
provisions,
are
there
any
other
recommendations
you
have
that
council
could
take
up
to
reduce
short
dumping?
I
mean
I
know
this
is
something
that
my
office
has
received
a
ton
of
calls
about
over
the
last
several
months,
and
I
do
want
to
thank
you
all
publicly
for
always
responding
to
the
call.
I
just
truly
appreciate
the
partnership,
but
what
advice
or
recommendations
would
you
give
us
around
this
short
dumping
issue,
because
it
has
been
a
significant
problem
and
an
uptick
in
short
dumping
in
our
communities.
G
Thank
you,
council,
member
richardson,
yes,
illegal
dump
in
especially
doing
a
covet,
19
epidemic,
exacerbated
tremendously,
we're
still
challenged
with
trying
to
keep
up
with
it
today.
G
That
complicates
also
matters
when
you
have
their
residential
short
dumping,
and
then
you
have
commercial
short
dumping
where
contractors
come
into
the
city
and
find
desolate
areas
to
dump
their
debris.
So
between
the
combination
of
two,
we
have
to
start
beginning
to
change
the
culture,
the
only
effective
tool
that
we
have
right
now
that
I
think
that
is,
is
important
to
implement
and
actually
expand
is
enforcement
using
cameras.
We
need
to
monitor
those
locations,
those
cameras.
G
I
had
a
meeting
just
the
other
day
with
the
city
of
los
angeles,
who
actually
called
us
to
say,
hey.
What
are
you
guys
doing
about
illegal
dumping,
we're
having
a
major
problem?
So
all
the
way
across
of
los
angeles,
we
shared
with
them
the
technology,
and
they
were
amazed
that
the
city
of
philadelphia
is
using
cameras
that
the
police
department
is
using
to
address
this
matter
now.
We
would
like
to
obviously
expand
those
to
much
larger
areas
and
rotate
them
dumpers
get
smart.
G
They
understand
that
when
they're
monitored,
they
can
find
other
locations
that
are
not,
and
so
that's
the
challenge
of
keeping
up
with
them.
But
I'm
happy
to
report
that
the
locations
that
we
put
place
cameras.
We
saw
a
significant
reduction
in
the
amount
of
legal
dumping
in
those
areas
for
residents.
Of
course.
Obviously
those
are
we
try
to
do
that
to
catch
contractors
and
those
who
come
in
with
tons
and
tons
of
material
but
with
their
off.
G
G
That's
a
lot
of
residential
trash
that
people
think
that
okay,
it's
not
in
front
of
my
door,
so
I
don't
have
to
worry
about
it,
but
the
environmental
impact
it's
having
on
the
community
in
the
neighborhood,
especially
people
who
live
in
close
proximity
and
businesses,
is
detrimental
to
us
all.
So
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
have
an
educational
co-pa
campaign,
along
with
an
enforcement
campaign,
to
try
to
change
the
minds
of
individuals
who
don't
understand
why
this
behavior
should
not
be
tolerated.
A
C
Well,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
very
much
and
good
afternoon
to
everyone
and
a
special
good
afternoon
to
our
commissioner
carlton
williams,
who
we
work
with
very
very
closely
as
a
district
council
person.
I
think
I
call
the
commissioner
every
day,
probably
several
times
several
times
a
day
as
we
work
to
get
in
front
of
the
the
mounds
and
mounds
of
trash
that
we
have
throughout
our
district,
and
you
know
yeah.
I
know
that
resources
are
tight.
You
know
and
covet
has
really
put
some
strain
on
your
workforce.
C
One
of
the
things
that
was
a
little
frustrating
for
me
is
that
you
know.
While
we
were
thanking
everyone
who
was
a
first
responder
and
also
a
you
know,
an
essential
worker
dawn
covet,
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
our
sanitation
workers
were
left
behind
or
left
out
of
that
conversation
and
people
really
didn't
want
to
recognize.
C
It
was
really
just
more
like
well,
when
is
my
trash
getting
picked
up,
it's
been
out
here
for
three
days
or
four
days
or
a
week
or
whatever,
and-
and
we
were
really
trying
to
let
people
know
that
listen
you
know
covet
has
had
an
effect
on
the
streets
department
as
well,
and
so
we
all
need
to
be
patient.
We
all
need
to
just
recognize
that
these
are
essential
workers
who
deserve
respect
and
who
deserve.
You
know
a
big
shout
out
and
a
big
thank
you
as
well.
C
So
I
just
you
know,
first
of
all
wanted
to
say
that
I
was
really
excited
to
hear
about
the
program
that
you
discussed.
That
would
allow
people
to
see
where
the
trash
collection
system
is
in
their
community,
and
I
have
to
say
for
some
somehow
I
missed
that.
So
I
thank
you
for
you
know
bringing
it
back
to
our
attention,
because
that's
something
I
definitely
want
to
spread
the
word
out
to
my
constituents
about
as
a
district
council
person.
C
I
also
wanted
to
talk
just
briefly
about
just
a
couple
of
things.
The
first
is
around
a
public
awareness
campaign
around
dumping.
You
just
you
just
mentioned,
and
I
wanted
to
really
encourage
that
because
I
think
it's
a
lot
of
our
neighborhoods
dumping
has
become
just
so
commonplace
and
just
so
accepted
that
people
don't
think
twice
about
walking
by
a
big
old
pile
of
trash.
You
know
they
see
it,
but
they
don't
see
it,
and
so
there's
something
you
know,
there's
something
wrong
with
that.
C
But
I
think
there
are
things
we
can
do
about
it,
and
so
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
a
public
awareness
campaign
would
look
like
around
something
and
reporting
it,
and
particularly
in
neighborhoods,
where
there's
the
sort
of
like
a
no
snitch
cult
culture.
If
you
could
talk
about
that
and
if
there
could
be,
I
think
a
reward
system
put
in
place
where,
if
you
see
someone
dumping,
maybe
you
might
be
able
to
be
able
to
collect
a
reward.
C
If
you
were
able
to
provide
information
that
would
lead
to
the
arrest
or
finding
or
whatever
of
someone
who
dumped
that
when
they
paid
their
fine
on
the
other
end
of
that,
fine
could
be
the
person
who
reported
the
information
just
to
really
incentivize.
Something
like
that.
So
I
just
wanted
you
to
talk
just
a
little
bit
about
that.
G
First
of
all,
thank
you,
council,
member
bass.
It's
always
a
pleasure
working
with
your
office
to
address
some
of
these
challenges.
I
know
that
they're
very
near
and
dear
to
your
heart
as
well:
the
only
half
on
the
impact
of
education,
what
covet
19
actually
did
this
year
and
which
was
a
huge,
huge
impact
to
why
we're
seeing
so
much
dumping
around
many
people,
weren't
allowed
to
do
neighborhood,
cleanups
and
corridor
cleanups.
Those
groups
and
those
volunteers
play
such
a
huge
role
in
our
ability
to
keep
dumping
down
and
when
it
stopped.
G
I
think
what
you
saw
is
the
impact
of
the
absence
of
our
very,
very
valued
volunteers,
especially
our
block
captains
for
commercial
corridor
cleaning
programs
in
your
district,
around
germantown
and
shelton,
along
germantown
avenue
on
wayne
avenue.
All
of
those
things
were
extremely
important
because
the
residents
take
ownership
and
responsibility
of
the
community
and
work
with
government
and
just
don't
place
the
whole
burden
on
government
to
try
to
keep
up
with
it,
because
in
reality,
council
member
and
you
know
this-
we
don't
have
enough
resources
to
keep
up
with
dumping
around
the
city.
G
We
rely
heavily
on
volunteer
support
and
participation
and
community
engagement,
so
I
think
any
type
of
program
that
can
incentivize
residents
to
partner
with
the
streets
department
to
keep
areas
clean
to
beautify
our
neighborhoods
to
become
block
captains.
Those
are
the
key
tools
that
when
things
are
successful,
you
go
into
neighborhoods
throughout
the
city
of
philadelphia.
When
you
have
a
strong
network
of
committed,
neighbors
individuals,
block
captains
and
businesses,
you
see
less
problems
with
illegal
dumping
and,
if
you
add
in
cameras
to
hot
spot
areas,
we
certainly
can
make
a
dent
in
this
problem.
C
Okay,
very
good,
very
good
question.
Can
you
highlight
the
resources
that
are
available
to
constituents?
I
know
there's.
Obviously
you
know,
recycle
bins
and
and
and
some
neighborhoods
I
think,
there's
trash
cans.
Can
you
talk
about
that?
If,
like?
If
someone
needs,
you
know
trash
cans,
do
you
still
do
rain
barrels?
C
G
Yeah
so
a
couple
of
years
ago,
we
actually
piloted
a
garbage
disposal
program
that
businesses
would
give
a
very
reduced
rate
to
have
it
installed
and
to
see
if
it
reduced
the
amount
of
food
waste
in
in
that
area.
We
ran
a
pilot
next
to
a
block
that
didn't
have
disposals,
and
we
did
see
a
significant
reduction
in
the
amount
of
food
waste,
as
was
studied
if
they,
if
they
install
a
garbage
disposal
system
in
their
home,
especially
in
in
areas
where
their
residents
are
economically
challenged.
G
K
G
If
we
were
able
to
implement
a
program
like
that
again,
that
would
certainly
be
gay.
Scott
mcgrath
actually
worked
with
me
on
that
program
some
years
ago.
It's
almost
you
know
a
decade
ago,
but
it
was
certainly
an
important
program.
I
think
in
council
past
legislation
that
all
new
construction
obviously
would
have
to
require
it,
but
we're
talking
about
our
older
residential
neighborhoods
that
were
not
built
in
a
new
age
that
won't
have
it
that
we
need
to
make
it
affordable
for
them
to
be
able
to
get
it.
G
So
I
think
I
think
programs
like
that
were
very
important.
We
also
piloted
two
years
ago,
philican
which,
in
certain
areas
of
the
city
allow
residents
to
get
a
trash,
can
and
have
a
uniform
trash
can
put
out
on
their
block
to
reduce
the
amount
of
trash
and
how
people
set
out
trash.
G
Many
people
ask
what's
the
difference
between
the
city
and
the
suburbs,
I
said
well,
there's
a
couple
of
things:
the
regulations
are
very
different
in
the
suburb
areas
where
they
have
private
collection,
they
don't
allow
things
to
be
set
out
outside
of
a
bin.
Everything
has
to
be
in
a
bin
and
anything
outside
of
that
bin
has
to
be
paid
for.
G
So
when
you
look
at
what
our
regulations
are
versus,
what
the
suburban
area
sub
areas
are
with
private
collection,
there's
a
very
big
difference
how
trash
is
set
out,
what
type
of
bags
they
use.
I
think
yesterday,
in
the
council
hearing
with
a
council
member
parker,
you
heard
one
of
our
sanitation
employees
testify
how
people
just
throw
trash
out
any
kind
of
way
that
contributes
to
the
litter
problems
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
the
type
of
bags
they
use,
containers
lids.
G
All
of
those
things
also
help
greatly
reduce
litter
in
our
communities
and
neighborhoods.
So
I
think
we
need
a
comprehensive
effort
to
be
able
to
implement
many
of
those
things
to
start
attacking
our
little
problem
from
illegal
dumping
on
down
to
every
little
piece
of
litter
that
we
sell
on
our
streets.
C
Are
even
though
we
have
a
budget
crunch,
I
know,
are
any
of
these
programs
likely
to
come
back
with
providing
trash
cans
and
providing
garbage
disposals
in
light
of
the
importance
of
the
environment?
And
you
know,
global
warming
is
it's,
you
know
it's
not
slowing
down,
it's
speeding
up.
So
are
we
bringing
any
of
these
programs
back.
G
So
so
I
think
the
good
news
is
that
we
were
able
to
utilize
grant
funding
and
scott
mcgrath
can
talk
to
that
from
our
state
act.
Grant
our
902
grant
and
kyle
also
can
both
talk
to
this.
So
we
didn't
use
city
resources,
german
fund
resources.
We
actually
use
the
funds
that
were
generated
through
our
increased
recycling
through
the
state,
and
that
allows
us
to
do
programs
like
educational
programs
for
illegal
dumping.
It
allows
us
to
pilot
programs
like
trash
cans.
We
purchase
big
bellies
using
those
grants.
G
I
mean
those
are
the
type
of
important
subsidies
that
we
get
from
the
state
that
allows
us
to
continue.
I
don't
know
what
the
impact
of
covenant
19
is
going
to
be
on
those
funds.
I'm
sure
that,
like
the
city
of
philadelphia,
the
state
is
also
challenged
fiscally
challenged.
We
are
hoping
that
we
still
get
our
fair
share
of
what
those
grant
dollars,
which
usually
is
about
1.2
to
1.5
million
dollars
a
year.
We
still
want
to
use
those
grant
dollars
to
invest
in
initiatives
like
this,
so
that
we
can
control
and
reduce
dumping.
G
We
can
buy
cameras
with
those
funds.
We
can
do
so.
G
So
I
think
we're
still
going
to
continue
it.
Hopefully
we'll
still
get
the
allotment
that
the
city
of
philadelphia
deserves
and
to
be
able
to
continue
those
investments.
The
final
thing
is,
we
still
want
more
black
captains,
we're
always
going
to
give
back
broom
and
gloves
to
our
block
captains,
we're
still
going
to
make
sure
that
they're
supported
again.
C
G
C
Very
good
and
last
question:
can
you
speak
briefly
about
composting
several
years
ago
I
actually
did
a
hearing
on
composting
and
the
need
for
composting
throughout
the
city
of
philadelphia,
and
we
had
bennett
campos
who
came
in
and
brought
everyone
buckets
and
I'm
not
sure
how
many
people,
actually
you
know
I
took
advantage
of
that.
But
you
know
for
many
many
moons
after
that
I
was
composting
and
I
only
stopped
because
I
lost
my
bucket
and
I
have
to
get
another
bucket,
but.
C
So,
but
is
that
something
that
the
city
could
do
because
the
problem
with
composting
through
a
service
like
that
which
you
know
they
do
a
great
job?
But
the
problem
is,
is
that
there
is
a
fee
associated
with
being,
you
know,
helpful
to
the
environment,
and
so
everybody
cannot
afford
to
pay
to
compost
and
especially
in
a
city
like
philadelphia.
There
are
a
lot
of
folks
who
want
to
compost
and
who
want
to
do
what's
best
for
the
city
best
for
the
environment,
but
but
being
able
to
do
it.
C
G
Absolutely
so,
I
think
one
of
the
initiatives
of
the
zero
waste
and
litter
cabinet
was
to
start
a
pilot
program
in
neighborhoods
where
people
could
do
backyard
composting
and
then
composting
at
local
community
locations
and
areas.
We
wanted
a
comprehensive
program
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
we'd
be
in
the
streets
department,
so
we
wrote
in
a
provision
to
our
current
waste
contract
with
the
city
of
philadelphia
that
a
portion
of
the
waste
could
be
piloted
to
actually
be
transitioned
into
some
organic
material.
G
That's
reusable
and
we
wanted
the
biggest
challenge
for
us
in
a
citywide
program.
Is
that
if
we
were
to
source
separated,
it
would
cost
a
tremendous
amount
of
resources
to
set
up
the
infrastructure
to
do
so.
That
means
just
like
recycling.
We
would
have
to
have
specific
trucks
to
be
able
to
do
that
outside
of
the
existing
trucks
that
we
currently
have.
G
If
we
was
to
do
a
citywide,
it
would
be
millions
of
dollars.
Trucks
alone
is
250
000
per
truck.
If
you're
going
to
use
the
existing
compactor,
I'm
just
giving
you
the
average.
With
that
it'll
be,
I
don't
know.
If
there's
it
would
be
a
difference
in
cost,
but
I'm
sure
it'll
be
about
200
000
per
truck
and
if
you
roll
that
out
across
the
city
that
can
get
very
expensive
and
that's
where
you
get
into
the
millions
there's
also
programs
where
we
hope
that
the
commercial
establishments
will
build
infrastructure.
G
In
several
years
ago
we
tried
to
lure-
and
we
actually
did
a
a
a
a
grant,
just
a
proposal
review
to
see
if
there
were
interested
people
in
building
a
a
a
composting
facility.
Here
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
we
got
13
interested
companies
that
was
willing
to
do
so.
So
there's
certainly
the
interest
for
this
type
of
system
to
be
here
built
in
city
of
philadelphia.
There's,
certainly
a
desire,
there's
a
big
challenge
with
the
investment
that
it's
going
to
take
to
build
a
citywide
program,
but
I
think
we
can.
G
We
can
certainly
start
small
there's
some
things
that
residents
can
do
right
now
to
start
composting,
just
as
you
said,
they
can
get
a
bin.
They
can
start
poop
flatten
food
waste
in
they
can
let
it
bio
degrade
and
actually
use
it
as
mulch
in
a
garden.
I
remember
a
program
that
we
had
when
we
had
in
the
recycling
program.
G
We
used
to
give
grant
dollars
to
schools,
philadelphia,
green
schools
and
a
school
down
in
south
philadelphia
actually
took
their
lunchroom
food
waste
and
let
it
compost
and
buy
the
grain
took
abandoned,
empty
lot
and
built
fresh
vegetables
and
gave
it
back
to
the
students
at
the
school.
That's
just
one
example,
one
example
of,
and
they
were
school
students
that
did
this.
So
that's
just
one
example
of
what
we
can
do
together,
affordably
to
be
able
to
to
make
changes
in
the
amount
of
waste
that
we
generate,
that
waste
didn't
go
into
a
landfill.
G
It
didn't
go
to
a
waste
energy
facility.
It
went
back
right
back
into
the
environment.
I
think
those
are
some
examples
of
ways
that
can
be
done.
We
need
a
plan
to
be
able
to
implement
it,
scott
and
phil.
I
think
you
guys
worked
on
that
and
kyle.
You
guys
worked
on
that
as
well.
If
you
wanted
to
add
a
very
brief
comments
to
that
feel
free
to
do
so,.
H
Yes,
I
would
add
our
leaving
yard
waste
that
we
collect
exactly
is
composted.
We
work
with
park
and
rec.
We
use
their
facility
in
fairmont
park
and
park
and
rec.
I'm
sure
they'll
talk
later
about
their
pilot
program,
they're
actually
doing
with
bennett,
which
was
set
up
initially
to
take
care
of
food
waste
generated
at
their
facilities,
but
they're
longer
term.
They
were
looking
at
ways
to
expand
that
operation.
H
I
would
also
add:
the
prisons
has
a
composting
facility.
They
compost
a
large
portion
of
the
food
waste,
that's
generated
in
their
cafeterias,
everything
it's
actually
a
fairly
sophisticated
operation.
They
just
got
some
additional
grant
money
through
the
sustainability
office
to
continue
expanding
that
operation.
H
So
there's
a
lot
of
small
scale,
stuff,
that's
happening
and
but,
as
the
commissioner
said,
it
takes
a
lot
of
infrastructure
dollars
to
develop
this
we're
working
with
waste
management
that
will
also
come
at
a
premium
if
we
can
get
that
off
the
ground,
that
will
be
a
good
push
in
the
right
direction,
but
we'll
have
to
coordinate
with
the
water
department
on
this
to
use
their
digesters
and
it
will
cost
additional
funding
to
actually
process
the
material
so
either
way
you
go
developing.
A
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair,
and
thank
you,
madam
vice
chair,
for
bringing
up
composting,
because
I
had
questions
as
well
around
source
reduction
and
I
wanted
to
put
in
a
shameless
plug
for
our
composting
at
home
program
that
will
be
on
wednesday
october
21st,
from
1
to
2
p.m,
with
the
office
of
sustainability
and
the
school
district
of
philadelphia
to
teach
our
constituents
how
to
compost
at
home
and
also
a
commissioner.
A
You
talked
about
the
importance
of
our
block
captain,
so
I
wanted
to
seize
the
moment
to
lift
up
the
program
offered
by
our
council
colleague,
council
member
curtis
jones
in
the
12th
annual
virtual
block
captain
boot
camp
this
year.
They
are
going
virtual
as
a
result
of
covet
and
that
program
will
be
held
on
saturday
october
24th
from
11
a.m,
to
1
p.m,
and
it
will
be
streamed,
live
here
on
channel
64..
So
I
just
wanted
to
note
those
two
upcoming
events
for
the
record.
A
I
see
in
the
chat
that
my
colleague,
councilmember
brooks
would
like
to
be
recognized
and
after
that
I'll
come
back
with
just
two
more
questions
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
panel.
Councilmember
brooks
thank
you
so
much.
Madam.
C
Chair
councilmember
bass
actually
asked
some
of
the
questions
that
I
had
because
one
of
them
was
about
like
currently
what's
happening
with
residents
trash
and
recycling.
Now,
and
I
reflected
on
a
time
when
my
grandmother
used
to
separate
the
garbage
from
the
trash
which
you
know,
we
call
that
composting,
but
back
then
the
old
folks
didn't
call
it
that,
and
I
was
wondering
what,
where
is
that
now,
so
you
kind
of
answered
some
of
those
questions
and
I
really
just
wanted
to
get
on
record
as
well.
C
How
can
you
know
people
know
that?
That's
something
that
they
can
still
do
and
is
available
currently
in
these
days,
and
I
got
some
questions
as
well
about
illegal
dumping.
So
what
is
the
city's
current
like
procedure
for
disposing
of
large
amounts
of
trash?
I'm
talking
about
not
residential
trash,
but
more
like
contractors
trash,
for
example,
and
how
is
that
information
shared?
C
I
had
an
illegal
dumping
situation,
so
I
went
through
the
trash
to
figure
out
where
it
was
coming
from
and
I
traced
it
back
to
a
realtor
that
I
end
up
calling
and
I
know
no
one
wants
to
rub.
It
rummage
through
trash,
but
it
was
excessive
like
every
week
as
soon
as
we
get
paid
to
get
it
cleaned
up,
it
was
dumped
again
right.
So
what
is
the
current
procedure
for
contractors
trash
and
do
they
have
guidelines
that
they
know
about
yeah?
So.
G
They're
required
to
have
a
private
hauler
number
one
and
to
dispose
of
their
material,
and
they
have
also
a
recycling
plan
to
take
any
type
of
recycling
material.
That's
not
permitted
in
the
landfill
and
have
it
recycled
like
drywall,
for
example,
those
things
that
should
be
actually
recycled
and
not
put
into
a
landfill.
G
There
was
legislation
actually
being
placed
on
the
books
and
I'm
not
sure
if
it
was
implemented
or
we're
about
to
implement
it
or
if
it's
active
now
and
we're
in
the
process
of
setting
it
up
but
requiring
them
to
list
their
hauler
on
their
permit.
And
that
is
huge,
because
it
then
makes
sure
that
there's
a
designated
location
and
is
a
point
of
contact
when
we're
able
to
trace
a
contract,
and
we
can
address
the
contractor's
license
if
they're,
illegal
dump
it
and
I
think
that's
a
big
step
towards
addressing
contractors.
G
I
think
the
challenge
is
that
you
have
some
of
the
mom
and
pop
contractors
who
don't
get
a
permit,
and
those
are
the
ones
that
you
may
see
doing
dumping
because
they
don't
want
to
pay
the
three
four
hundred
dollar
dumping
disposal
fee.
To
get
a
dumpster
properly
paced,
they
would
rather
try
to
dump
it
in
front
of
a
property
like
you
just
said
to
have
you
pay
clean
it
up
and
that's
the
ones
that
we
have
to
enforce
with
the
police
department
and
to
have
them
address.
G
C
G
One
of
the
things,
one
of
the
very
good
things
that
the
zero
waste
and
leader
cabinet
did
it
was
to
establish
a
the
environmental
crimes,
detective
in
the
police
department
and
so
they're
dedicated
to
the
city
of
philadelphia
to
address
issues
that
you
just
mentioned,
council
member
brooks.
You
would
give
that
information
to
that
detective
and
he
was
actually
starting.
G
An
investigation
just
like
the
police
would
actually
start
a
crime
because
it
is
a
crime
depending
on
the
magnitude,
the
penalty,
for
it
is
up
to
five
thousand
dollars
fine,
and
if
it's
a
vehicle
used,
you
can
confiscate
the
vehicle
or
whatever
equipment
that
was
used
in
the
act
of
why
that
dumping
occurred.
The
challenge
is
evidence.
Certainly.
G
This
is
why
we
are
a
big
proponent
of
cameras,
because
if
we
could
catch
you
on
video,
we
certainly
think
that
that's
sufficient
evidence
to
bring
in
front
of
a
judge,
because
that
detective
still
has
to
give
it
to
a
prosecutor
and
the
district
attorney's
office.
Who
has
to
take
it
in
front
of
the
judge
to
rule
whether
or
not
the
person
was
guilty
or
not,
so
it
can
be
cumbersome.
C
G
C
C
Like
as
a
means
to
help
with
enforcement
like
have
we
been
able
to
like
why
they're
doing
this
like
what
are
the
things
we
can
do
to
prohibit
it,
but
I
mean
in
addition
to
enforcement,
but
like
like,
when
we
start
talking
about
the
root
causes
like
are
we
doing
anything
to
mitigate
any
of
that
right?
That's.
G
A
great
question
matter
of
fact,
because
behavioral
patterns
do
exist
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
as
to
what
type
of
dumpers
who
they
are
where
they
come
from,
and
what
locations
in
the
city
that
are
most
impacted
by
it,
and
that
is
it's
no
secret
or
surprise
that
economically
challenged
communities
are
the
ones
hit
the
hardest,
the
most,
where
there's
a
lack
of
development
in
locations
and
there's
often
a
lot
of
unused
vacant
property
in
space
open
space,
where
it's
easy
for
people
to
come
in
and
dump
in
those
locations.
G
Certainly
when
people
dump
in
those
locations
they
come
from
all
over
and
from
a
geographic
perspective.
One
of
the
things
the
zero
waste
and
litter
cabinet
did
also
was
establish
a
behavioral
committee
to
look
at
the
impacts
of
litter
and
illegal
dumping,
and
in
the
outcomes
of
that
was
that
in
those
areas
those
distressed
areas
are
more
likely
to
get
dumped
on
by
outside
contractors
than
any
other
place
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
to
be
able
to
track.
G
That
is
something
that
we
have
done
through
the
litter
index
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
start
that's
where
all
our
cameras
went,
believe
it
or
not.
First,
we
looked
at
those
areas
in
those
neighborhoods
where
those
are
having
the
biggest
challenges.
God
bless
you
and
we
ultimately
went
out
and
and
put
those
cameras
up,
and
we
saw
a
huge
reduction
in
illegal
dumping.
G
The
problem
is,
they
may
have
skipped
over,
while
those
cameras
only
cover
we
had
to
put
10
for
I'm
going
to
use
the
logan
triangle
off
of
the
roosevelt
boulevard,
for
example,
I
think
we
put
like
10
or
15
cameras
up
in
that
location
and
when
I
showed
los
angeles,
I
was
very
proud
the
other
day
because
we
did
have
some
bouts
of
it,
but
the
change
that
that
had
in
that
impact
on
that
community
was
tremendous
because
we
used
to
go
there
every
week
and
pick
up
tons
and
tons
of
material,
and
now
we
may
pick
up.
G
C
Yes-
and
thank
you
for
that,
because
I
don't
live
far
from
the
logan
triangle
and
now
that
traffic
has
been
rerouted
off
the
the
ramp
from
cayuga,
we
go
through
the
logan,
try,
I'm
gonna
get
on
the
expressway
and
I've
been
seeing
so
much
dumping.
But
I
do
see
an
immediate
cleanup.
So
thank
you
for
the
work
that
you
guys
are
doing
around
that
I'm
gonna
have
one
other
question
around
the
temporary
workers
that
were
hired
during
covet
19.
C
So
I
have
a
question
about
like:
is
there
a
process
to
maybe
potentially
extend
their
work
past
covet
and
what
is
their
like?
Their
pay
scale
compared
to
the
permanent
workers,
and
is
it
any
potential
for
them
to
eventually
be
hired
permanently
by
the
city
in
that
in
your
department?.
G
Yes,
so
the
temporary
workers
were
a
huge
help
in
getting
us
out
of
this
crisis
number
one,
and
I
want
to
acknowledge
them
for
the
hard
work
that
they've
done
immediately.
We
put
them
right
into
action
and
they
made
an
immediate
impact.
They
come
from
the
existing
civil
service
list.
So
that's
the
good
news,
so
that
means
they're
eligible
for
full-time
employment.
When
a
position
opens
up
and
normally
you
know,
we
get
high
turnover
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
each
year
we
may
hire
50
to
100.
G
Well,
we
have
to
go
through
like
600
names.
In
order
to
do
that,
and
so
many
of
the
people
there
are
likely
to
get
hired
for
full-time
employment.
Their
salary
is
currently
the
same
level
they
get
paid
as
an
entry-level
worker,
which
is
approximately
30
37
000
a
year,
I
believe
so
their
hourly
rate
is
equivalent
to
the
hourly
the
annual
salary
of
a
full-time
employee.
G
So
after
six
months
we
do
have
the
capability
to
try
to
extend
it
the
program
depending
on
where
we
are
with
covet
and
if
the
challenge
levels
continue,
we'll
have
to
look
at
our
budget.
The
great
thing
is
it's
being
offset
by
overtime,
so
the
temporary
workers
is
actually
reducing
the
amount
of
overtime
that
we
spend
in
the
department,
which
is
a
win-win
for
us,
because
ultimately
it's
cost
pro.
It's
not
cost
prohibited
for
us
to
keep
them
on,
and
we
can
keep
this
type
of
program
going.
G
C
Yeah
and
thank
you
guys
so
much
for
the
work
you've
been
doing,
I've
been
doing
several
cleanups
around
the
city
and
you
guys
have
showed
up
with
supplies
been
to
there
immediately
to
clean
up,
and
you
know
I
would
just
want
to
salute
you
for
that
work.
The
communities
that
we've
been
doing
the
cleanups
in
really
appreciated,
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
put
on
record
that
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that
the
sanitation
department
is
doing
and
I
have
a
few
more
questions
about
zero
waste.
C
G
Yeah,
I'm
gonna
ask
scott
and
kyle
to
also
jump
in
I
I
was
I'll
give
a
brief
overview
to
tell
you.
We
had
a
plan
to
be
able
to
get
to
zero
waste
by
2035,
starting
with
implementation
of
a
major
organics
processing
program
that
consists
of
about
30
of
our
current
waste
stream,
which
is
a
tremendous
amount
of
tons
we
collect
well
this
year.
We're
projected
to
collect
700
000
tons
this
year,
so
about
maybe
about
100
to
150
000
tons,
maybe
food
waste
and
composting
and
yard
waste.
G
So,
in
order
for
us
to
start
on
a
goal
towards
zero
waste,
we
have
to
have
a
robust
composting
program,
an
organics
program,
processing
program
to
reduce
the
amount
of
material
that
we
send
to
landfills
and
waste
energy
facilities.
Recycling
as
kyle
talked
about
earlier.
It
was
the
other
component
that
we
continue
to
run
some
type
of
modified
recycling
program
in
the
midst
of
the
new
revised
provisions
with
the
a
chinese
sport
and
what's
happening
in
china
with
the
contamination
rate.
G
So
I
think
that
is
another
big
challenge
for
us,
because
they
don't
accept
that
material.
I
think
the
key
is
to
open
up
domestic
markets
here
in
america.
That
would
allow
us
to
now
process
material
here,
as
opposed
to
sending
it
overseas,
which
would
allow
us
to
actually
reduce
and
create
businesses
right
here
in
america.
G
Those
things
are
needed
and
for
us
to
create
the
infrastructure
for
us
to
get
to
zero
waste
at
the
beginning,
the
circular
economy,
I
think
council
member
richardson,
talked
about
it's,
how
we
produce
create
and
and
dispose
of
not
only
the
products
but
the
wrappings
and
the
the
the
areas
that
in
which
these
things
are
created
and
then
distributed.
I
think
we
need
to
start
at
the
top
that
is
beyond,
unfortunately,
the
streets
department's
control
we
can
advocate
for
it,
but
I
think
holistically.
G
We
need
to
look
at
how
products
are
created
in
the
first
place
in
order
for
us
to
mitigate
the
use
of
our
natural
resources.
Phil,
the
phil
brzee
worked
on
that
in
the
beginning,
scott
mcgrath
and
kyle.
That's
certainly
up
your
areas.
If
you
wanted
to
add
to
council
member
brooks's
request,
question
feel
free
to
do
so.
H
Yes,
the
curb
your
waste
campaign
is
another
key
component
of
this:
reducing
the
amount
of
waste,
and
especially
with
what
we've
seen
and
from
the
impacts
of
cove
in
19,
and
one
of
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
initiated
this
effort
is
controlling
how
much
and
how
people
are
putting
the
trash
out
for
collection.
H
It
really
affects
how
we
manage
our
system,
the
other
the
composting
and
targeting
other
parts
of
the
waste
stream.
As
I
said
earlier,
will
take
some
significant
capital
investments,
but
I
think
working
with
other
departments
which
some
of
those
efforts
have
already
started
but-
and
I
think
we'll
we're
definitely
going
to
continue
working
with
park
and
rec
and
the
water
department
on
some
of
these
initiatives.
H
But
it
will
take
a
little
bit
of
time
to
sort
of
get
things
launched
on
some
of
these
efforts,
and
unfortunately,
covid19
has
had
a
significant
impact
on
trying
to
get
some
of
these
efforts
going
and
everything.
So
as
we
go
through
the
year
end
of
the
night
coming
year,
we're
gonna
keep
at
it.
The
work
that
we've
charged
msw
consultants
to
do
is
also
gonna
help
us
we're
gonna.
H
Take
a
really
close
look
at
our
weight
at
the
composition
of
our
waist
and
see
what
portions
of
it
we
can
either
target
through
waste
reduction
efforts.
What
portions
of
it
we
need
to
target
with
other
recovery
efforts
and
taking
also
a
real,
close
deep
dive
on
looking
at
the
composition
of
the
organics
fraction
of
the
waste
stream,
and
that
will
really
make
a
big
difference
in
terms
of
how
waste
management
can
process
the
material
and
recover
that
portion
of
the
waste
stream.
So
that's
going
to
be
a
real
key.
H
They
actually
reached
out
to
me
in
the
middle
of
our
crisis
and
said:
hey,
let's
get
the
discussion
going
again
on
the
organics
pilot
and
everything
so
they're,
all
in
still,
I'm
trying
to
help
us
come
up
with
a
solution
to
this.
So
it's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
dirt.
It's
going
to
take
multiple
different
types
of
efforts
to
get
us
to
the
zero
waste.
H
Another
part
of
this
is
the
commercial
waste
stream
which
right
now
is
really
hard
to
tackle,
because
the
commercial
waste
collection
system
has
been
significantly
disrupted
by
coven,
because
so
many
businesses
just
aren't
operating
right
now,
which
is
offices,
aren't
open.
Restaurants
aren't
fully
operating,
which
is
a
big
reason.
Why
we're
getting
a
lot
of
the
trash?
Because
everybody
is
home,
the
school
district
isn't
open.
So
all
that
trash
is
being
generated
for
us
to
to
try
to
manage.
So
the
commercial
sector
will
be
another
big
impact
on
this.
H
One
of
the
things
that
was
started
under
the
cabinet
was
an
effort
to
recognize
and
reward
businesses
that
have
adopted
zero
waste
practices
and
that's
something
that
we
can
get
back
to
working
with
the
sustainability
office.
A
I
have
a
quick
point
of
information
regarding
the
reference
to
the
circular
economy
model.
How
are
you
thinking
about
how
the
results
of
the
study
you
are
conducting
could
be
used
in
partnership
with
other
city
departments,
to
really
encourage
a
circular
economy
model
in
philadelphia
and
then
I'll
circle
right
back
to
my
colleague,
councilmember
brooks,
but
I
wanted
to
bring
that
up.
Since
you
mentioned
that
phil.
G
You
worked
a
lot
on
that.
Can
you
comment
on?
You
know
how
we
plan
on
using
our
the
data
to
help
us
drive
this
initiative.
J
Sure
I,
the
work
that
we're
gonna
be
tasked
with
doing
and
that
we've
already
started
is
really
gonna,
be
looking
at
the
department's
operations
and
programs
and
services.
I
think
the
portions
that
will
be
helpful
for
this
larger
circular
economy.
Discussion
is
that's
going
to
be
more
tied
in
with
the
waste
characterization
work
that
we
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
in
starting
in
november
and
then
carrying
on
working
with
the
partnership
and
things
like
that
into
early
next
year.
J
So
if
I
could,
though,
for
just
a
quick
second
just
point
out
or
or
remind
that,
you
know,
recycling
is
the
ultimate
it
recycling
is
acted
upon
locally,
but
impact
globally.
J
And
commissioner
williams
mentioned
you
know
china's
national
sword,
which
has
now
been
in
place
for
about
two
and
a
half
years,
and
the
import
restrictions
that
were
enacted
by
that
nation
and
that's
had
a
a
ripple
effect
for
you
know
for
programs
all
across
the
country.
So
it's
not
just
philadelphia.
That
is
experience
the
negative
impacts
of
national
sword,
and
I'd
also
just
want
to
point
out
that
recycling
in
many
ways
is
very
similar
to
what
kind
of
maybe
the
state
of
the
overall
manufacturing
economy
in
the
us.
J
And
so
it's
we've
lost
a
lot
of
domestic
recycling
processing
capacity.
We've
lost
a
lot
of
end
market
capacity.
You
know
that
all
went
away
as
we
began
to
export
more
materials
overseas,
so
I
do
think
that
the
the
positive
is
that
there
is
a
significant
amount
of
investment.
J
Now
that
has
us
been
restarted
in
domestic
processing
capacity
in
this
in
the
us,
and
I
think
that
it's
still
going
to
take
a
couple
of
years
for
it
to
all
come
online,
but
I
do
think
that
you
know
that's
really
going
to
help.
I
think
reinvigorate
a
lot
of
programs
and
get
a
lot
of
programs
around
the
country
back
on
track.
As
far
as
reaching
higher
recovery
levels
and
diversion
goals
answered
the
question.
So
sorry,
though,.
I
I
just
want
to
add
one
thing
if
I
may
thank
you
with
regard
to
the
the
audits
that
are
coming
up:
we're
not
only
looking
at
the
recycling
stream
to
see
what
people
are
putting
in
that's
wrong
in
the
recycling
stream
and
getting
them
to
recycle
right.
I
We're
also
looking
at
the
waste
stream
to
see
how
much
of
their
waste
is
not
only
organics,
but
it's
also
recyclable
materials,
so
that
we
can
then
encourage
greater
participation
in
recycling
so
that
we
can
get
more
of
that
recycling
material
out
of
the
trash
can
and
in
to
the
recycling
bin.
I
I
do
think,
though,
and-
and
I
do
want
to
say
that
when
we're
looking
at
the
overall
hierarchy
of
zero
waste
and
we're
looking
at
source
reduction
and
reuse
and
recycling
and
composting,
and
then
there
is
the
the
landfill
component
and
just
simple
disposal
waste
to
energy.
We
are
really
hitting
on
all
of
those
categories
of
the
hierarchy
in
order
to
achieve
zero
waste.
I
When
we're
looking
at
messaging
zero
waste,
though
I
really
think
we
need
to
look
at
that
in
in
any
city,
but
particularly
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
where
we
have
you
know,
40
percent
power
of
our
residents
are
living
under
the
federal
poverty
level.
Is
my
understanding
where
we
have.
You
know
not
necessarily
a
college
educated,
a
college
educated
populace
when
we
look
at
the
term
zero
waste
and
you
throw
that
out
to
the
average
citizen.
I
It
is
a
it's
a
term
that,
on
its
face,
value
is
very
daunting
right
to
say:
zero
waste
means
that
you've
really
produced
no
waste,
and
that's
not
that's.
I
We
know
internal
to
the
process
that
that's
not
what
the
term
means,
but
I
think
we
really
look
at
need
to
look
at
messaging
that
term
to
the
general
population,
because
when
you
throw
out
the
term
zero
waste
to
many,
it
sounds
so
daunting
that
people
don't
necessarily
want
to
try
to
attempt
it
at
all
right,
and
so
I
think
we
have
to.
We
have
to
look
at
that
when
we
are
messaging
to
our
residents.
I
We
have
to
really
look
at
breaking
down
breaking
down
those
particular
categories
of
zero
waste
that
our
source
reduction-
that
is
recycling
that
is
composting
breaking
down
those
categories,
because
when
we
put
it
under
that
big
umbrella,
it
can
be
very
obscure
and
or
daunting
for
some.
A
Great
and
I'll
circle
back.
Thank
you
for
your
response.
I
want
to
circle
back
to
council
member
brooke,
so
you
can
finish
up
your
line
of
questioning
so
that
we
can
move
on
to
the
next
panel.
I
don't
see
anyone
else
that
wants
to
be
recognized
in
the
chat
feature.
Thank.
C
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councilmember
brooks
and
again,
thank
you
so
much
commissioner
williams,
mr
mcgrath,
miss
lewis
and
mr
breezy,
and
I
get
that
right.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
testimony
and
for
your
response
and
for
all
the
work
that
you
continue
to
do.
We
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
you
in
supporting
the
work
of
your
department.
So
thank
you
very
very
much.
E
Great
good
afternoon,
chair
gilmore,
richardson
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
emily
yates
and
I'm
the
smart
city
director
for
the
city
of
philadelphia
at
the
office
of
innovation
and
technology.
E
I
am
extremely
happy
to
be
here
to
testify
and
share
my
knowledge
around
the
circular
economy,
the
smart
city,
phl
roadmap
and
programming
and
opportunities
for
scalable
solutions
as
a
potential
solution
to
street
litter
and
waste
disposal
systems
in
the
wake
of
the
coven
19
pandemic.
Here
in
philadelphia
in
my
position,
I
am
responsible
for
implementing
the
smart
city
phl
roadmap,
which
was
launched
in
february
2019,
with
an
executive
order
from
mayor
kenny.
E
I
would
like
to
extend
a
special
thank
you
to
councilman
derek
green
for
his
support
in
the
launch
of
the
smart
city,
phl
strategy
and
his
continued
participation
in
the
advisory
committee
meetings
as
defined
in
the
roadmap.
A
smart
city
is
a
city
that
uses
integrated
information
and
communication
technology
to
support
the
economic,
social
and
environmental
goals
of
its
community,
as
we
continue
to
move
forward
with
the
implementation
of
projects
and
programs.
E
We
leverage
the
pitch
and
pilot
working
group,
which
is
composed
of
individuals
from
both
the
advisory
committee
and
the
internal
working
group
to
solicit
ideas
that
reflect
both
the
kenny
administration
priorities
and
community
needs
and
interests
call
for
a
solution
is
then
issued.
We
review
proposals
host
a
pitch
event
and
then
select
a
promising
idea,
and
the
smart
city
team
will
work
to
secure
a
contract
with
the
solution
provider
and
manage
and
track
the
implementation
of
that
pilot.
E
E
This
topic
was
determined
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
but
largely
because
it
addressed
a
top
citizen
concern.
As
we
know,
litter
and
waste
has
consistently
been
identified
on
the
city's
annual
philadelphia
resident
survey
and
it
addressed
a
key
challenge
experienced
by
the
city
regarding
illegal
dumping.
The
call
for
solutions
was
launched
on
december
16,
2019
and
responses
were
received
by
january
16th
2020
and
the
working
group
selected
two
solution
providers.
E
One
is
retriever
which
kyle
mentioned:
they
collect
e-waste
and
textiles,
and
metabolic
was
the
other
finalist,
both
of
whom
support
the
transition
to
a
more
circular
state
in
cities.
E
I'm
going
to
briefly
dive
into
that
specific
pilot,
because
it
was
a
project
that
laid
the
foundation
for
growing
a
circular
construction
and
demolition
economy
here
in
philadelphia,
a
circular
economy,
just
to
make
sure
everybody
is
aware
of
the
definition
of
that
is
defined
by
the
ella
macarthur
foundation
as
a
framework
for
an
economy
that
is
restorative
and
regenerative
by
design.
So,
looking
beyond
the
current
take
make
and
waste
extractive
industrial
model
a
circular
economy
aims
to
redefine
growth,
focusing
on
positive
society-wide
benefits
and
is
underpinned
by
digital
strategies.
E
E
The
urban
mining
tool
helps
facilitate
a
circular
approach
to
construction
by
evaluating
the
value
and
opportunity
to
reuse
materials
and
elements
embedded
in
existing
buildings.
These
materials
include
precious
material
or
precious
metals
and
minerals,
but
also
elements
such
as
window
frames,
ceiling,
tiles
and
doors.
These
can
then
be
mapped
against
upcoming
building
needs
to
help
develop
the
most
efficient
logistical
supply
chain
chains.
E
This
tool
provides
the
city
and
the
community
with
data
driven
insight
into
the
demand
and
supply
of
material
streams
for
years
to
come
and
how
we,
as
a
city,
can
ensure
high
quality
reuse.
These
insights
can
then
be
further
used
to
encourage
the
construction
and
demolition
sector
to
reduce
waste
and
minimize
demand
for
new
construction
materials.
E
E
So
how
do
we
balance
this
economic
driver
with
our
climate
goals?
Reducing
our
reliance
on
scarce
resources,
increases
our
economic
resilience
and
builds,
and
building
a
circular
economy
offers
a
4.5
trillion
dollar
economic
opportunity
in
the
us
alone
by
avoiding
waste,
making
businesses
more
efficient
and
creating
new
employment
opportunities
in
philadelphia.
E
There
are
already
seeds
that
have
been
planted
like
the
urban
mining
tool
and
the
composting
pilot
miss
naple
reference
that
are
low-hanging
fruits,
that
we
can
and
should
take
advantage
of
to
help
foster
a
more
circular,
equitable
and
resilient
economy
and
environment
here
in
philadelphia
policies
and
programs
that
aim
to
minimize
waste
and
consumption
across
all
sectors,
while
incentivizing
innovative
solutions
for
building
a
circular
economy
and
creating
more
jobs
are
critical
to
philadelphia,
reaching
both
its
climate
and
economic
resiliency
goals.
E
A
L
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
chair
gilmore,
richardson
and
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
ashima
sikhtev
and
I
lead
the
governments
and
cities
program
at
the
ellen
makata
foundation.
The
ellen
macarthur
foundation
is
a
non-profit
that
develops
and
promotes
the
idea
of
a
circular
economy.
L
We
work
with
and
seek
to
inspire
businesses,
academia,
policy
makers
and
institutions.
I'm
here
to
share
my
knowledge
around
the
topic
of
circular
economy.
Today,
the
secure
economy,
as
emily
indicated,
seeks
to
move
from
a
linear
take
make
dispose
economy
to
one
where
we
actually
eliminate
the
idea
of
waste
in
the
long
term.
L
It's
really
a
fundamental
rethink
of
the
way
that
we
make
use
and
manage
materials
and
products
and
infrastructure
in
our
economy
from
a
repair
cafe
that
helps
you
fix
your
phone
to
a
more
durably
designed
t-shirt,
a
building,
that's
designed
for
disassembly
or
packaging.
That's
made
out
of
mushrooms
instead
of
plastics.
L
L
L
when
it
comes
to
jobs.
Secular
economy-related
activities
such
as
repairing
upgrading
remanufacturing
are
all
much
more
labor-intensive
than
the
alternative
of
just
throwing
things
away.
For
example,
refurbishing
a
thousand
tons
of
electronics
can
create
13
times
more
jobs
than
recycling
that
same
amount
of
electronics.
L
L
A
M
We're
experiencing
the
repercussions
of
an
unjust
and
broken
model
of
waste
that
lacks
accountability
and
transport
transparency
and
is
rooted
in
the
belief
that
waste
is
inevitable,
resulting
in
historic
disproportional
investments
in
disposal
over
reuse
and
recycling.
As
a
social
entrepreneur
with
20
years
experience
developing
zero
waste
infrastructure,
I
believe
that
all
waste
is
preventable,
not
inevitable.
Demonstrating
this
belief
is
the
mission
of
eureka
recycling,
a
non-profit
recycler
in
minnesota
and
co-founded
in
2001
that
operates
a
similar-sized
facility
to
what
the
city
of
philadelphia
would
need
for
their
recycling
by
choosing
a
contract
with
eureka.
M
A
mission
aligned
business
that
is
invested
in
the
success
of
recycling,
not
beholden
to
the
profits
from
waste.
The
cities
of
minneapolis
and
saint
paul
have
enjoyed
a
resilient
recycling
program
that
sustains
110
living
wage
jobs
has
leveraged
over
20
million
dollars
in
private
investments
and
keeps
material
local
sorting.
The
recycling
collected
for
its
highest
and
best
use
eureka
is
just
one
example
of
how
local
self-resilience
allows
for
cities
to
realize
significant
social
and
environmental
benefits
at
a
competitive
price.
Even
through
our
current
crisis.
M
The
move
from
corporate
driven
profit
to
mission
aligned
partners
is
a
key
to
achieving
success.
This
will
only
happen
if
the
city
transforms
their
procurement
process
to
attract
the
needed
partners
through
incentives
such
as
long-term
contracts,
provisions
of
buildings
or
space
through
public
private
partnerships
and
the
valuing
of
economic
development,
environmental
benefits
of
proposals
over
the
short
term
gains
of
lowest
cost
bidders.
M
I
can
imagine
a
day
when
new
social
enterprises
enable
philadelphia
residents
to
get
items
from
their
favorite
restaurants
and
grocery
stores
and
reusable
to
go
packaging.
That's
systematically
collected
from
households,
hygienically
cleaned
and
redistributed
to
retailers
and
manufacturers,
and
this
is
an
issue
that's
been
made
particularly
relevant
as
we've
seen
the
increase
in
disposable
to
go
packaging
and
limits
on
voluntary,
bring
your
own
actions
due
to
covid,
as
well
as
the
legislative
limits
created
by
the
state.
Preemption.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
testimony.
I
will
start
off
with
my
questions
for
emily.
The
urban
mining
report
offers
a
lot
of
recommendations.
A
E
Thank
you,
council
member
gilmore
richardson.
We
have
not
had
conversations
yet
we've
been
doing
a
bit
of
the
ground
work
and
trying
to
identify
who
the
key
stakeholders
would
be
and
also
coordinate
with
existing
efforts
that
are
happening
through
the
sustainability
office's
participation
in
the
thriving
cities
initiative.
A
Excellent.
Thank
you
for
that
feedback.
Also,
the
report
offers
some
ideas
of
what
the
city
could
do
after
a
few
pilot
projects,
including
using
our
procurement
process
to
create
sufficient
demand
for
building
reuse.
How
long
do
you
anticipate
that
timeline
will
be,
or
could
this
be
an
area
of
opportunity
to
help
us
jumpstart
our
post-covet
economy.
E
Thank
you
for
that
question
as
well.
I'm
not
sure
about
the
timeline
to
be
completely
clear.
You
know
that's
something
to
look
into,
but
I
absolutely
think
that
the
procurement
mechanism
that
the
city
possesses
and
utilizes
is
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
have
an
impact
on
jump,
starting
our
covid
recovery
and
it's
something
that
beyond
construction
and
demolition
should
be
looked
at
as
how
we
can
incorporate
circular
principles
into
our
procurement
process,
and
I
would
love
to
look
into
that
more
so.
A
Okay-
and
could
you
just
please
get
back
to
us
relative
to
the
timeline,
because
that
would
be
most
helpful
and
my
last
question.
The
commerce
department
is
also
working
on
a
project
to
diversify
the
tech
industry.
So
do
you
see
room
for
collaboration
between
those
types
of
projects
and
the
circular
economy
work,
and
do
you
have
ideas
on
how
we
can
start
building
circular
economy
priorities
into
our
business
development
and
business
attraction?
Efforts
here
in
the
city.
E
So
I
absolutely
see
opportunity
to
align
with
the
efforts
that
the
commerce
department
is
having
and
I've
been
connected,
specifically
in
the
workforce,
efforts
that
they're
trying
to
identify.
E
So
I
have
a
conversation
teed
up
with
shilpa
out
of
the
workforce
office
to
talk
further
about
that,
because
there's
just
massive
amount
of
opportunity
within
the
circular
economy,
space
to
create
jobs,
but
also
to
drive
innovation-
and
I
think
you
know
the
use
of
technology
circular
economy
is
underpinned
by
by
digital
strategies.
So
it's
really
inherent
that
we
start
to
explore
that
as
a
as
a
hub.
I
guess
here
in
philadelphia.
E
How
do
we
start
to
create
that
pipeline,
but
also
retain
and
attract
the
talent
and
that's
something
that,
through
the
smart
city
strategy,
I'm
definitely
looking
into
part
of
our
pitch
and
pilot
program?
I
spoke
about
one
side.
There's
if
you
look
at
the
image
in
the
smart
city
strategy,
there's
a
second
side,
that's
looking
at
kind
of
solidifying
relationships
with
key
partners,
mostly
research
institutions,
but
I
also
see
opportunities
to
collaborate
with
different
companies
here
in
the
city
to
help
drive.
A
It
thank
you
so
much
for
that
response,
because
I
really
believe
that
focusing
on
career
and
technical,
education
and
workforce
development
will
be
a
way
for
us
to
really
help
our
residents
as
we
move
through
covet
19..
So
thank
you
so
much
for
that
and
I'm
pleased
to
hear
that
you
have
been
speaking
with
shilpa.
I
think
she's
going
to
be
a
great
partner
for
us
on
the
workforce
development
front.
A
I'd
like
to
recognize
my
colleague,
councilmember,
derek
green
for
questions
and
then
I'll
come
back
for
the
additional
questions
I
have
for
our
other
witnesses.
F
Following
in
the
spirit
of
my
colleague,
councilmember
kendrick,
brooks,
I
will
have
a
line
of
inquiry,
that's
quite
formal
and
direct
yeah,
just
just
joking,
but
I'm
sorry.
I
was
chairing
another
committee
at
the
same
time,
so
I
was
trying
to
listen
to
both
the
commentary
from
this
hearing
as
well
as
participate
in
a
cities
of
inclusion
initiative,
I'm
doing
in
reference
to
making
the
city
of
philadelphia
the
world's
premier
city
of
inclusion
for
those
that
have
a
physical
learning
difference
by
2026.
F
F
I
want
to
get
some
perspective
on
and
you
talked
about
workforce
and
opportunities
for
training
for
young
people
who
are
in
our
high
schools,
but
I
also
want
to
think
about
entrepreneurship
opportunities
and
how
we
expose
people
to
this
circular
economy
when,
as
emily
as
you
were
talking
and
some
of
the
other
panels
were
also
presenting
their
testimony.
It
made
me
think
of
a
former
co-worker
kevin
brooks
who,
when
I
was
in
the
law
department
and
I
used
to
represent
then
called
the
office
of
housing.
Community
development.
F
Kevin
was
our
eeo
manager
for
that
department
and
because
we
do
a
lot
of
work
in
housing
and
development,
he
actually
decided
to
start
his
own
business,
really
salvage
business
where
he
would
go
into
demolition
projects,
especially
of
older
homes
or
historic
properties,
and
salvage
some
of
the
very
unique
and
ornate
parts
of
those
homes
and
then
provide
them
for
others
and
developed
he's
been
an
entrepreneur
ever
since
he's
done
things
on
various
cable
channels.
F
You
know,
and
various
pilots
from
hdtv
and
others
providing
some
of
the
unique
things
that
he's
been
able
to
establish,
but
he
being
an
african-american.
Man
saw
this
as
an
opportunity,
and
it
made
me
think
about
this
so
circular
economy
and
how
do
we
provide
better
inclusion
and
opportunities
for
entrepreneurs
and
really
expose
the
potential
entrepreneurship
opportunities
for
businesses?
So
we
can
have
more
entrepreneurs
like
kevin,
brooks
salvage
who's,
been
able
to
flourish
and
grow
based
on
this
type
of
circular
economy.
E
I
think
that
thank
you
for
your
question.
Councilmember
green.
E
I
think
that's
one
of
the
great
things
that
excites
me
about
the
circular
economy
is
the
opportunity
for
so
many
different
individuals,
regardless
of
their
background
to
to
have
a
place
in
the
spectrum
of
what
we
need
to
do
within
the
circular
economy,
and
I
wanted
to
mention
this
as
a
follow-up
to
council
member
gilmore
richardson's
comment,
you
know,
I
think
one
of
the
great
things
about
circular
economy
is
it's
not
only
for
people
who
have
college
degrees
and
you
know
kind
of
the
white
collar
role.
E
It's
also
a
job,
an
opportunity
to
hire
a
lot
of
individuals
that
are
underskilled
need.
Reskilling
are
hard
to
employ
unemployed,
and
so,
if
you
think
about,
if
you
look
along
the
process
of
designing
using
and
kind
of
collecting,
there
are
so
many
different
points
where
we
can
create
jobs
and
great
examples
to
point
to
you
know:
there's
a
for
lack
of
a
better
example.
On
top
of
my
head.
There's
a
waste
recovery
process
happening
in
amsterdam.
E
They
have
a
former
waste
to
energy
facility
that
they
realize
that
that
was
not
the
most
effective
way
to
utilize.
These
resources
was
to
burn
them,
so
they've
pivoted
to
become
a
way
a
resource
recovery
facility
where
they
are
collecting
waste
and
employing
individuals
that
are
under
skilled
or
hard
to
employ
and
using
them
to
separate
out
that
waste
into
reusable
parts
that
keeps
them
at
their
highest
value
and
that's
just
a
simple
way
of
pivoting
a
business
to
create
really
a
lot
more
job
opportunities.
E
But
then
there's
also
the
space
to
create
these
hubs
for
entrepreneurs
and
actually,
prior
to
my
role
here
in
philadelphia,
I
was
in
charlotte
north
carolina,
where
I
led
the
development
of
their
circular
charlotte
strategy,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
focused
on
was
creating
an
innovation
hub
that
provided
low-cost
space
to
entrepreneurs
to
allow
them
more
of
an
effort
into
the
entrepreneurial
space.
So
it
kind
of
reduced
that
cost
barrier
and
provide
them
with
access
to
those
resources.
E
And
it
didn't
matter
if
it
was
access
to
avocado,
peels
or
coffee
grinds
to
grow,
mushrooms
or
concrete.
It
was
a
space
where
we
could
connect
and
facilitate
that
as
a
city
to
help
could
really
drive
the
circular
economy
and
that
innovation
and
entrepreneurial
space
for
all
people
and
part
of
what
motivated
me
so
much
in
developing
that
strategy.
E
As
the
city
manager
said,
I
want
somebody
who's
currently
collecting
waste
for
the
city
of
charlotte,
who
could
potentially
be
homeless
because
the
waste
manager
hired
individuals
that
were
homeless
to
help
and
in
five
years.
I
want
to
see
him
in
this
space
with
his
own
business
and
that's
the
trajectory.
I
want
this
space
to
create
and
I
think
we
have
that
capacity
here
in
philadelphia
as
well.
F
Yeah,
that's
actually
a
very
good
point
because
I
do
know
an
entrepreneur
that
I
met,
that
is
doing
e-waste
and
he
has
no
return
citizens
and
he
has
contracts
for
various
commercial
office
spaces
in
our
city
where
he
collects.
The
e-waste
on
behalf
of
the
building
owner
from
the
tenants
has
been
able
to
grow
his
entrepreneurship
and
his
business
and
as
well
as
hire
additional
returning.
M
Sure
I'm
alex
danovich
and
I'm
actually
so
to
speak
to
the
the
job
creation.
I
really
love
what
emily
was
saying
and
as
well
as
I
think,
I'm
working
with
a
non-profit,
a
new
nonprofit
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
right
now
called
all
together.
M
Now:
pennsylvania
and
its
founders
judy
wicks
who's,
a
lot
of
experience
connecting
sustainability
issues
and
what
we're
really
trying
to
do
is
take
this
opportunity
and
covet's
really
shown
it
to
us
that
supply
chains
need
to
be
smaller,
we're
seeing
now
more
direct
purchasing
from
manufacturers
to
consumers
or
from
farms
direct
to
manufacturers,
and
I
think
that
that
lower
supply
chain
for
our
basic
goods
or
the
shorter
supply
chain
creates
a
tremendous
opportunity
for
circularity
and
to
create
these
entrepreneurship
opportunities
in
the
city
as
a
as
a
job
creation
and
job
development
tool.
M
To
really
make
our
supply
look
at
our
local
supply
chains
and
make
them
sustainable
and
do
it
in
a
way
that's
circular,
especially
with
packaging
and
the
issues
that
material
doesn't
have
to
go
that
far
anymore.
It
creates
creates
a
lot
of
exciting.
I
think
places
we
can
go.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
feedback
and
for
that
excellent
work.
Councilmember
greene
did
you
have
any
additional
questions.
A
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
quickly
recognize
green
building.
United.
Are
you
still
on
the
line?
Green
building?
United?
I
think
that
was
amy.
A
Okay
amy
had
to
go
so
we
are
going
to
move
forward.
I
have
additional
questions
that
I
just
wanted
to
get
on
the
record
for
the
macarthur
foundation
around
your
experience
around
some
of
the
main
barriers
that
cities
are
facing
when
trying
to
create
a
local
circular
economy
and
what
are
some
of
the
best
practices
that
you've
seen
cities
looking
to
incentivize
a
circular
economy.
A
And
lastly,
how
have
you
seen
cities
pivot
in
the
wake
of
covet
19
to
start
to
implement
some
of
these
programs,
and
I
have
additional
questions
for
you,
alex
I'll
quickly
put
them
on
the
record
after
we're
finished
with
ashima
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
panel,
because
I
want
to
be
respectful
of
everyone's
time.
So
we'll
ask
the
next
panel
to
please
keep
your
testimony
limited
so
that
we
can
get
to
the
rest
of
the
witnesses.
A
We
still
have
about
18,
more
individuals
to
go
so
ashima
sure.
L
Thank
you
very
much
and
council
member,
so
in
terms
of
your
question
around
challenges
and
best
practices.
I
think
some
of
the
challenges
are
certainly
around
awareness,
building
and
capacity
building
of
what
is
the
secular
economy,
and
how
can
my
specific
city
actually
adopt
this
concept,
it
sounds
like
philadelphia
is
already
looking
to
explore
that
which
is
fantastic.
L
There's
also,
certainly,
barriers
around
collaboration
that
the
sacral
economy
is
not
something
that
just
the
city
can
implement.
It
will
take
businesses,
small
and
large.
It
will
take
universities.
It
will
take
the
sort
of
larger
society
to
take
part
in
so
really
making
sure
that
this
is
a
collaborative
effort.
I
think
those
are
those
are
some
of
the
challenges
that
we're
seeing
cities
facing
in
terms
of
best
practices.
L
I
would
say
that
a
lot
of
cities
start
obviously
with
a
waste
characterization
study
as
you're
doing,
which
is
fantastic.
I
think
it's
really
important
to
do
some
kind
of
landscape
analysis
of
what
sector
economy
activity
is
already
ongoing
in
your
city.
You
might
be
surprised
that
there's
a
lot
of
small
businesses,
entrepreneurs
that
are
kind
of
catching
on
to
this
idea,
so
understanding
who
they
are
understanding
the
large
corporations
that
might
be
working
on
this
as
well
and
then
kind
of
convening
them
together.
L
I
think
that's
that's
sort
of
a
great
starting
point
for
a
lot
of
the
cities
we
work
with
and
then
another
just
point
of
best
practice
I
would
say,
is
that
this
is
a
very
in
all
the
cities
we
work
with.
This
is
a
cross-departmental
issue.
It's
linked
to
climate,
it's
linked
to
food
security.
It's
linked
to
resilience,
it's
linked
to
workforce
development,
so
making
sure
there's
some
kind
of
cross-city
advisory
board
or
group
that
can
work
on
the
cypriot
economy.
L
So
it's
not
just
a
single
department,
that's
trying
to
chip
away
at
it,
because
it
will
a
lot
of
different
stakeholders
and
then
to
your
second
question
quickly
on
how
covid
has
perhaps
impacted
some
of
these
efforts.
Obviously,
in
the
short
term,
a
lot
of
cities
are
facing
similar
challenges,
just
as
philadelphia
is
with
recycling
programs
and
composting
and
so
on.
L
But
a
lot
of
them
have
very
quickly
realized
that
the
sakura
economy
is
a
long-term
solution
to
some
of
these
immediate
challenges
that
they've
been
facing,
so
their
mayors
or
deputy
mayors
have
recommitted
to
the
soccer
economy.
They
they
kind
of,
are
thinking
about
it
much
more
in
the
long
term,
so
I'd
say
it's.
It's
certainly
something
that
initially
sort
of
people
had
to
put
a
pause
on
some
of
their
efforts,
but
in
the
longer
term
they
recognize
that
they
have
to
take
on
the
suffer
economy.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
that
feedback
and
alex
very
quickly.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you
what
best
practices
can
we
take
away
from
the
work
that
you've
done
in
minneapolis.
M
Sorry
about
that,
okay,
that's
right!
I
I
think,
as
I
was
saying
in
my
testimony,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
best
practices
that
can
be
implemented
in
terms
of
the
rfp
process
in
your
procurement
process
that
could
help
build
these
local
opportunities
for
local
businesses
and
more
community
accountable
businesses
to
be
part
of
even
your
recycling
program.
M
You
know,
I
think,
there's
some
great
examples
already
in
the
city
with
composting
and
bennett,
but
the
more
I
think
you
can
move
into
mission
alliance
partners
to
to
to
help
the
city.
Do
this
work,
the
more
you
know,
you're,
not
gonna,
be
fighting
against
the
fact
that
oftentimes
disposal
is
more
profitable
right,
so
that's
to
shape
the
decisions
of
these
contractors.
So
if
you
have
a
contractor,
that's
really
invested
in
the
same
outcomes
in
terms
of
circularity,
workforce
development
and
community
accountability.
I
think
that's
a
really
great
starting
place.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
feedback,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
emily
and
ashima
for
your
testimony
and
just
for
all
the
knowledge
you
bring
to
this
area,
I'm
taking
copious
notes,
but
I
will
be
reviewing
the
transcript
of
the
hearing
after
this
hearing.
So
thank
you
very
very
much.
We
will
now
move
on
to
panel
number
three
miss
alfred.
If
you
could
call
panel
number
three
christine.
A
Good
afternoon,
thank
you
so
much
miss
alford,
miss
knapp.
If
you
could
proceed
with
your
testimony.
B
Good
afternoon
pepper,
gilmore,
richardson
and
members
of
the
committee,
I'm
christine
knapp,
I'm
the
director
of
philadelphia's
office
of
sustainability,
I'm
here
to
offer
testimony
on
resolution,
two
zero,
zero,
four
three
one
to
investigate
the
challenges
and
solutions
to
litter
and
waste
disposal.
In
the
wake
of
proven
2019,
I
think
most
of
you
are
familiar
with
the
office
of
sustainability
as
being
responsible
for
implementing
greenworks
the
city's
sustainability
frameworks.
I
won't
talk
too
much
about
our
office.
B
The
office
was
a
key
partner
in
launching
the
city,
zero
waste
and
litter
cabinet
several
years
ago
and
zero
waste
efforts
have
also
now
been
consolidated
into
our
office,
providing
us
with
more
opportunity
to
make
connections
between
waste
and
some
of
our
other
sustainability
priorities
since
releasing
the
2017
zero
waste
and
litter
action
plan
and
setting
the
zero
waste
gold.
The
city
has
implemented
many
strategies
to
engage
stakeholders
and
minimizing
waste
across
all
sectors,
including
waste
from
our
own
municipal
operations
from
commercial
entities
and.
B
The
city,
zero
waste
and
litter
initiatives
prioritize
preventing
waste
before
it
is
created
through
programs
like
the
municipal
building,
waste
audit
and
the
zero
waste
partnership
program.
Municipal
agencies
and
commercial
partners
are
provided
with
technical
assistance
to
improve
their
waste
management
practices
and
help
us
advance
towards
a
lower
waste
future.
B
One
of
our
primary
primary
strategies
is
minimizing
philadelphia's
overall
waste
generation
is
to
pilot
and
expand
innovative
strategies
to
reduce
wasted.
Food
experts
say
that
as
much
as
40
of
all
food
is
wasted.
So
at
a
time
when
many
of
our
residents
are
food
insecure,
we
know
we
have
to
do
better.
Wasting
food
also
means
that
we're
wasting
the
water
and
energy
used
to
grow
transport
and
refrigerate
that
food
and
wasting
it
also
results
in
messing
emissions.
B
B
This
fall
parks
and
recreation
will
launch
the
first
ever
urban
composting
permit
pilot
project.
The
city-owned
pilot
site
will
be
operated
by
a
private
contractor
who
will
collect
compost
from
rec
centers
city-wide
free
of
charge
in
exchange
for
rent
and
utilities.
It's
the
first
of
its
kind
in
pennsylvania
and
the
permit
is
being
developed
in
partnership
with
the
state
dep
with
the
intention
of
lowering
the
barrier
to
entry
to
operate
a
public
or
private
composting
facility
in
the
city.
B
Other
city-led
strategies
include
piloting
and
expanding
circular
economy
projects
circular
economy
strategies
eliminate
waste
through
the
continual
use
of
resources
and
create
sustainable
systems
for
managing
materials
locally.
They
can
also
be
a
key
part
of
economic
development
and
job
creation.
We
are
currently
working
with
the
c40
cities
and
circle
economy
as
a
pilot
city
for
the
thriving
cities
initiative,
a
multi-year
program
to
plan
for
and
pilot
anti-consumption
effort
initiatives
with
stakeholders
inside
and
outside
of
city
government,
and
to
expand
circular
economy
efforts.
B
As
noted
earlier,
we
partnered
with
the
office
of
innovation
and
technology
on
their
pitch
and
pilot
program
and
through
that
program,
two
companies,
metabolic
and
retriever,
are
now
piloting
strategies
for
minimizing
waste
and
promoting
circular
material
management
in
philadelphia
in
closing
policies
and
programs
that
aim
to
minimize
waste
across
all
sectors
and
incentivize.
Innovative
solutions
for
building
a
local
circular
economy
are
vital
for
us
reaching
our
zero
waste
and
for
reaching
our
climate
goals.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
christine
for
your
testimony
and
for
all
of
your
work
with
the
office
of
sustainability
and
just
in
this
arena
in
general,
it's
been
my
pleasure
to
work
with
you
over
the
years
even
back
to
the
energy
benchmarking
legislation,
the
original
iteration
of
that
bill.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
so
much
for
your
work,
I'm
going
to
allow
the
rest
of
the
panelists
for
this
panel
to
testify,
and
then
we
will
address
questions.
A
We
have
a
testimony
that
has
been
submitted
from
commissioner
catherine,
katherine
lovell
from
the
department
of
parks
and
recreation
and
now
I'll
recognize
mr
bennett
for
your
testimony,
and
then
we
will
move
into
a
quick
line
of
questioning
so
that
we
can
move
to
panel
four
and
then
hear
from
the
individuals
who'd
like
to
give
additional
comment
for
this
hearing.
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
bennett.
K
Thank
you
and
good
afternoon
council,
member
gilmore,
richardson
and
all
the
other
council
members
present
thanks
for
allowing
me
to
testify
today
on
resolution,
two
zero
zero.
Four
three
one.
Eleven
years
ago,
I
started
bennett
compost
with
a
hundred
dollars
and
desire
to
make
composting
simple.
Today
we
collect
food
waste
curbside
from
over
4
500
households
throughout
philadelphia,
keeping
over
2
million
pounds
of
food
waste
out
of
landfills
and
saving
the
city
over
sixty
five
thousand
dollars
annually.
K
In
landfill
fees
alone,
we
employ
eleven
full-time
and
former
part-time
individuals,
we'll
all
make
a
minimum
of
eighteen
dollars
an
hour
and
offer
benefits,
including
health,
dental
and
a
matching
401k
retirement
program.
We
have
multiple
employees
with
experience
going
through
the
criminal
justice
system.
They've
worked
with
the
philadelphia
prison
composting
program
at
holmesburg
prison
to
provide
opportunities
for
returning
citizens.
K
We
are
beginning
a
public
private
partnership
which
christine
knapp
talked
about
for
the
city
to
convert
an
old
city
maintenance
facility
in
long
press
to
a
state-of-the-art
urban
composting
facility.
Once
this
facility
is
fully
operational,
it
will
keep
one
million
pounds
of
food
waste
out
of
landfills,
saving
the
city,
32
thousand
dollars
in
landfill
fees
or
reducing
harmful
methane
emissions.
It
will
produce
500
yards
of
finished
compost
that
can
be
used
by
gardeners
and
urban
farmers
to
grow
healthy
foods
in
areas
that
don't
currently
have
access
to
and
support
10
full-time
living,
wage
jobs.
K
More
importantly,
it
sets
up
a
model
that
can
be
replicated
throughout
the
city
with
support
from
council
in
terms
of
identifying
appropriate
parcels
of
land
and
retrofitting
them
and
creating
systems
that
are
open
for
composting.
This
model
can
handle
large
amounts
of
the
city's
residential
food
waste,
create
numerous
internet
entrepreneurial
opportunities
for
philadelphia-based
businesses,
not
multinational
corporations,
and
provide
living
wage
jobs
with
benefits.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
testimony,
mr
bennett,
and
for
that
inspiring
story,
starting
with
a
hundred
dollars
right.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
innovation.
I
quickly
wanted
to
circle
back
to
our
director
of
the
office
of
sustainability.
A
I
had
two
very
quick
questions
for
you:
how
can
council
better
support
your
office
to
implement
some
of
those
strategies
and
pilot
programs
that
you
mentioned.
B
B
So
I
think,
through
both
the
the
usda
and
the
nrdc
projects,
we
may
very
well
come
back
to
council
in
you
know
a
year
from
now
and
say
this
is
what
we've
learned
through
these
projects:
here's
where
we
think
there's
opportunities,
so
I
would
sort
of
stay
tuned
on
those
fronts,
and
you
know
I
think,
commissioner
williams
already
you
know
sort
of
talked
about
some
of
the
challenges
for
the
large
scale
sort
of
implementation
in
terms
of
the
resources
needed
there,
especially
given
the
budget
constraints
at
the
moment.
B
So
I
think
you
know
approaches
that
we're
collectively
taking
to
help
make
composting
and
other
strategies
possible
where
they're
possible.
So
the
community
network,
I
think,
is
a
great
way
to
start
engaging
folks
in
their
own
neighborhoods
about
compost,
how
it
works,
what
you
can
do
and
sort
of
socializing
the
concept
will
be
a
stepping
stone
so
that,
when
we're
able
to
do
more
and
bring
it
to
a
larger
scale,
we'll
have
a
baseline
of
understanding.
B
We
saw
that
happen
in
dc.
They
also
had
a
community
scale
composting
network
that
we
actually
went
and
toured
and
learned
from
that
we're
kind
of
replicating
the
sun,
and
we
saw
a
very
strong
increase
in
understanding
among
residents
about
how
to
compost
after
that
program
was
launched.
So
I
think
you
know,
building
on
success.
Building
on
these
pilots
over
time
is
one
of
our
goals.
A
Thank
you
so
much
and
we'll
definitely
stay
tuned
and
look
forward
to
the
feedback
and
the
updates
on
how
we
can
better
support
the
work
of
your
office.
What
are
other
ways
you
think
we
could
be?
We
could
work
towards
helping
residents
and
business
owners
around
composting.
I
mentioned
earlier
that
we're
having
a
composting
at
home
program
through
a
partnership
with
your
office.
A
So
what
do
you
think
are
some
other
ways
that
we
could
work
to
really
help
our
residents
and
also
business
owners
to
start
the
process
of
composting.
B
I
know
that
we've
heard
from
some
restaurant
and
food
service
industry
representatives
in
the
past
that
they
would
like
some
sort
of
financial
incentive
to
you
know
do
the
right
thing,
but
I
my
response
to
them
at
the
time
and
what
I
would
like
to
remind
folks
is:
we
do
have
the
sustainable
business
tax
credit
that
is
available
for
businesses
and
sustainable
management
of
food
waste
would
certainly
qualify
a
business
to
you
know,
be
able
to
be
eligible
to
apply
for
and
receive
that
that
already
existing
tax
credit.
B
So
I
think
primarily
what
we
need
to
do
is
promote
the
sustainable
business
tax
credit
make
sure
that
businesses
know
that
it
exists
that
they
are
eligible
for
it
and
how
to
apply
for
it,
because
we
usually
honestly
do
not
get
enough
applications.
It's
capped
to
75.
We
don't
usually
get
75
businesses
that
apply
so
there's
plenty
of
room
for
more
businesses
to
get
in
there
and
take
advantage
of
that.
B
And
since
we
know
you
know,
businesses
are
always
looking
at
their
bottom
line,
especially
at
this
moment
when
you
know
so
many
folks
are
struggling.
That
is
an
opportunity
for
them
to
you
know
if
they're
going
to
spend
any
additional
dollars
to
do
better
sort
of
organic
waste
management,
here's
a
way
for
them
to
offset
those
costs.
A
K
So
we've
seen
kind
of
two
noticeable
changes
since
coven
19
started,
and
the
first
is
that
we've
seen
a
fairly
substantial
reduction
in
the
commercial
food
waste
that
we
handle
and
which
makes
sense
right.
Restaurants
are
shut
down,
places
that
serve
food
are
shut
down.
Even
when
they're
open,
they're
doing
a
lot
less
business.
They
have
a
lot
less
food
waste,
they're
looking
for
ways
to
cut
back
what
we
have
seen
and
so
that
that
has
been
discouraging.
K
But
what
has
been
very
encouraging
is
that,
while
we
have
seen
fairly
strong
growth
over
the
past
few
years,
once
covered
19
hit
and
people,
we
saw
a
an
even
bigger
increase
in
people
who
are
interested
in
home
composting,
and
so
whether
that
was
composting
through
the
service
that
we
offer,
whether
that
was
reaching
out
to
us
to
figure
out
if
they
how
to
do
homecoming,
they
were
able
whether
that
was
looking
for
community
gardens.
K
There's
just
has
been
a
a
large
increase
in
people's
awareness
of
their
food
waste
and
a
desire
to
do
something
different
with
it
than
what
they're
currently
doing,
and
I
think
that
some
of
the
challenges
that
kova
19
presented
for
trash
collection
throughout
the
city
were
also
inspiration
for
people
to
start
to
think
differently,
because,
right
when
everything's
working
well,
people
don't
think
about
it.
A
Okay,
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense
based
on
the
the
current
environment,
we're
in
particularly
around
the
restaurants
and
the
commercial
businesses.
It
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
So
thank
you
for
verifying
that
for
us.
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
your
testimony.
I'm
checking
the
chat
to
ensure
that
none
of
my
colleagues
have
questions.
Seeing
none
we're
going
to
move
on
to
panel
four,
I'm
going
to
ask
all
the
remaining
panelists.
So
please
keep
your
remarks
short.
A
If
you
can
keep
it
to
two
minutes,
that
will
be
helpful,
so
we
can
get
to
any
questions
that
we
may
have
from
here.
We
have
three
panelists
for
panel
four
and
then
I'm
seeing
at
least
12
individuals
who
want
to
get
public
comments.
So
we
want
to
get
through
this
as
quickly
as
possible,
so
we
can
respect
your
time
and
get
to
as
many
individuals
as
possible.
So
thank
you
so
much
in
advance
for
your
cooperation,
miss
alfred.
If
you
could
call
panel
number
four
maurice.
B
Sampson
and
mike
you
all,
unfortunately,
amy
cornelius
had
to
leave
us.
A
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
miss
alfred
and
thank
you,
councilmember
green
for
being
here
for
the
hearing.
We
truly
appreciate
all
of
the
work
that
you
have
done
in
this
space
and
we
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
you
and
I'm
so
happy
that
you
are
a
member
of
this
committee.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here.
We
do
understand
that
you
must
depart
for
another
commitment,
we'll
now
move
on
to
panel
number
four
maurice
sampson,
please
identify
yourself
for
the
record
and
proceed
with
your
testimony.
A
Maurice
we
cannot
hear
you
please
unmute
maurice.
We
still
cannot
hear
you
so
we'll
move
on
to
mr
you
all
and
then
we'll
circle
back
to
you
maurice
to
give
you
an
opportunity
to
check
your
technology.
Okay,
let's
see
you
all,
please
state
your
name
and
proceed
with
your
testimony.
Can.
N
Okay,
my
name
is
mike
ewall,
I'm
with
the
energy
justice
network
national
group
based
in
philadelphia.
The
city's
waste
plan
currently
is
called
a
zero
waste
and
litter
plan,
but
it
does
not
follow
the
official
definition
of
zero
waste
or
the
zero
waste
hierarchy,
as
outlined
by
the
zero
waste
international
alliance.
N
We
would
recommend
that
that
happen.
The
city's
current
waste
plan
depends
on
burning
a
lot
of
our
waste
that
we
don't
otherwise
reduce
or
reuse,
recycle,
but
zero
waste
is
defined
to
mean
zero
incineration
and
minimizing
the
amount
of
waste
to
landfills.
N
N
The
city's
plan
also
leaves
out
the
most
effective
and
cost
effective
way
of
quickly
reducing
waste,
which
is
unit
pricing
or
paying
per
bag
or
per
bin,
which
over
ten
thousand
communities
do
and
when
they
do.
They
find
pretty
much
immediate
reduction
on
average
of
44
of
the
waste
about
half
of
that
is
reduced,
not
just
by
moving
things
to
recycling
bins,
but
by
people,
reducing
and
reusing,
so
that
the
city
doesn't
even
have
a
collection
cost
and
if
we
add
composting
to
that,
it
can
get
diversion
rates
up
to
70.
N
We
must
move
away
from
burning
our
trash.
It's
an
environmental
racism
problem,
a
health
problem
and
asthma
and
cancer
problem
which
are
huge
in
philadelphia,
and
we
need
to
support
the
waste
contracting
for
clean
air
act
on
that
one
of
your
committees
that
I'm
involved
in
put
together
and
brought
to
you
to
end
the
city's
burning
of
our
trash
and
recyclables
as
soon
as
possible.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
testimony
and
also
for
your
work
on
the
subcommittees.
I
know
that
we
truly
appreciate
your
work
and
we
are
looking
through
those
proposals
with
a
fine
tooth
comb,
and
we
just
appreciate
you
and
all
the
work
that
we
will
be
able
to
offer
from
this
committee
because
of
your
commitment.
So
I
just
want
you
to
know
from
me
to
you.
Thank
you
so
very
very
much
because
we
truly
appreciate
it.
A
O
Good
well
our
good
afternoon,
council,
member
gilmore
richardson
and
the
members
of
the
committee.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
test
my
today.
I
am
the
eastern
pennsylvania
director
for
clean
water
action
based
here
in
philadelphia.
Copic
19
has
revealed
the
underlying
issues
in
philadelphia's
ability
to
properly
manage
its
waste.
O
I
really
want
to
recognize
the
streets
commissioner,
carlton
williams,
his
staff
and
the
collection
crews,
because
I
think
they're
doing
the
best
that
they
can
be
expected
to
do.
Given
the
current
solid
waste
management
policy
and
the
resources
that
are
available,
philadelphia's
waste
management
system
is
broken
and
it
continues
to
decline.
K
O
Year,
we're
putting
out
44
to
88
000
citations,
contacts
and
warnings
that
suggest
that
there's
some
issue
with
our
education
efforts,
free
covet,
on-time
waste
collections
have
been
averaged
and
the
equivalent
of
about
a
day
behind,
while
recycling
connections
are
96
or
better.
There
are
no
short-term
fixes
to
the
current
circumstances.
O
Zero
waste
goal
of
90
by
2035
has
to
achieve
an
average
increase
of
4.3
a
year
to
meet
its
objective.
Since
the
zero
waste
goal
was
set,
we're
actually
decreasing
by
two
percent
a
year.
Zero
waste
is
achievable,
but
it's
going
to
require
a
commitment
by
the
administration
to
fundamental
reform
of
waste
management
practices
based
on
a
comprehensive
sustainable,
solid
waste
management
plan,
schedule,
implementation
and
commensurate
investment.
O
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
testimony
maurice
and
thank
you
for
all
of
your
work
and
for
being
a
part
of
our
subcommittees
and
just
for
always
being
someone
that
we
can
rely
on
and
count
on
for
your
expertise.
A
I've
worked
with
you
as
a
staffer
and
counsel
when
I
clerked
the
committee
on
environment
and
now
as
a
member
of
philadelphia
city
council,
and
I
want
you
to
know
that.
I
truly
appreciate
you
and
all
the
knowledge
that
you
bring
to
this
space
and
how
you
have
helped
us
to
move
the
needle
forward
in
so
many
ways.
So
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
that
for
the
record
and
thank
you
so
very
much
for
your
testimony
and
continued
work.
A
I
wanted
to
move
back
to
mike
for
a
very
quick
question
around
what
you
think
we
can
do
here
in
philadelphia,
so
based
on
your
experience
with
other
cities,
what
best
practices
do
you
think
philadelphia
can
adopt
to
move
our
zero
waste
goals
forward?.
N
So
one
of
the
first
things
we
need
to
do
is
when
the
contracts
come
up
for
renewal
in
three
years
is
to
not
renew
them
for
any
of
the
next
one-year
options.
There
are
three
of
three
one-year
renewal
options
and
to
start
new
contracts
that
use
zero
waste
principles
and
have
them
in
mind
so
understand
that
the
back
end
means
that
we
need
to
not
use
incinerators,
but
do
certain
things
to
pre-process
waste
before
it
goes
to
a
landfill
and
incinerator
is
a
way
of
pre-processing
by
spreading
into
the
error.
N
Most
of
it
by
sending
actual
landfill
makes
it
even
worse,
but
there
are
better
practices
on
the
back
end
that
can
be
done.
That
will
make
the
landfills
less
of
a
nuisance
at
the
same
time
that
we
do
all
the
upstream
things,
like
I
mentioned
before,
like
pay
as
you
throw
also
called
unit
pricing,
the
composting
collection,
deconstruction
mandate,
I
would
say,
on
the
construction
demolition
waste
side-
is
also
a
key
component,
because
that's
a
huge
portion
of
the
waste
stream
can
create
many
jobs,
dismantling
buildings
instead
of
taking
wrecking
balls
to
them.
N
A
Thank
you,
and
that
was
some
very
concrete
recommendations
that
I
think
we
can
really
employ,
particularly
as
we
look
at
that
next
contract
process.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
those
recommendations.
O
Well,
you
know,
I
think,
that
one
of
the
things
we
need
to
do
as
we
look
around
at
other
cities,
is
to
look
at
what
we
have
already
done.
You
know
from
we
had
an
office
of
recycling
with
23
members
of
staff
that
actually
had
civil
service
positions
written
to
all
of
them,
and
they
were
literally
eliminated
in
the
first
10
years
of
this
decade.
One
of
the
people
on
the
staff
was
an
economic
person
on
the
staff
that
looked
at
this,
and
that
was
on
nancy
weissman.
O
O
We
held
a
program
at
the
convention
center,
where
we
brought
all
of
the
buyers
in
from
the
city
and
invited
people
who
had
products
to
sell
to
just
show
them
what
they
could
purchase,
and
it
was
huge.
O
Nancy
used
to
do
a
report
every
year
where
she
would
go
out
and
she
would
track
how
many
new
businesses
were
coming
into
the
city,
and
it
was
the
fastest
growing
sector
of
business
in
philadelphia.
Were
those
businesses.
The
other
thing
she
used
to
do
was
she
used
to
steer
business
people
away
from
coming
to
the
city
because,
unfortunately,
when
they
came,
they
would
always
be
sent
to
the
streets
department,
which
is
not
an
economic
development
agency
and
she
would
interview
them
and
understand.
O
Well,
why
are
you
coming
here
and
the
number
one
thing
they
would
say
is
because
of
the
city's
policy
which,
in
the
90s
was
early
really
recycling
didn't
happen
any
big
way
until
the
early
2000s
every
place
else.
We
actually
had
what
was
considered
the
best
planning
unit
in
the
country
and
when
los
angeles
and
san
francisco
first
hired,
they
actually
came
to
philly
to
see
how
we
were
doing
our
planning,
all
that
has
sort
of
been
lost
in
in
the
way.
O
But
we
have
a
lot
of
things
that
we
have
already
done
and
I
think
the
speaker
who
said
we
need
to
look
and
see.
What's
going
on
in
the
city
is
important,
the
other
thing
that
we
do
not
do
in
fact
that
we
actively
resist
is
partnering
with
the
private
sector
to
understand
how
these
things
get
done.
Recycling
began-
and
I
came
here
from
new
jersey
and
the
first
20
people
hired
to
do
this,
for
municipalities
in
the
country
was
actually
in
new
jersey
and
we
were
trained
by
industry.
It
was
not
the
environmentalists.
O
The
industries
at
the
time
wanted
to
figure
out
how
they
could
get
recycled
materials
to
go
back
into
their
products,
because
at
the
time
it
was
the
energy
crisis
was
the
big
thing
and
they
learned
that
when
you
use
recycled
materials,
you
need
a
lot
less
energy
to
recover
them.
So
they
made
a
deal
with
this.
O
They
said
if
we
could
show
them
how
we
could
bring
out
materials
that
were
clean
into
their
specs,
they
would
buy
them
and
we
were
against
mandatory
in
those
days
mandatory
came
about
because
it
was
recognized
as
a
way
to
deal
with
waste.
We
were
really
about
building
business
and
creating
industry
around
the
materials
that
were
in
the
waste
stream.
O
You
might
say
we
had
the
right
mentality
in
the
beginning
and
we
got
diverted
into
looking
at
it
as
trash
and
and
we
have
to
turn
that
around
right
now
we
basically
treat
recycling
as
trash
and
I'm
not
being
critical
here.
The
sanitation
department's
job
is
to
get
the
trash
off
the
streets,
and
that
is
their
first
orientation
in
everything
that
they
do.
O
We
need
what
we
had
once
upon
a
time
which
was
a
separate
office
that
dealt
with
just
recycling
planning,
sanitation
did
the
collection,
but
the
planning
was
a
separate
unit.
It
was
even
separate
of
the
streets
department
and
it
had
a
more
orientation
that
was
similar
to
the
way
the
zero
waste
cabinet
is
set
up
in
that
the
director
worked
with
all
the
various
agencies,
but
it
was
a
whole
orientation
that
looked
at
these
are
commodities.
We've
got
to
pull
materials
out
to
me
the
specifications
of
the
marketplace.
O
That
is
the
answer
to
the
china
problem.
We
have
to
create
materials
that
industry
wants
not
just
divert
materials
from
the
trash,
and
we
need
more
of
a
partnership
where
there
is
an
orientation
that
looks
at
recycling
as
as
a
business
function
as
a
function.
That's
trying
to
create
resources
for
industry,
we
need
to
actively
work
on
bringing
in
new
markets
to
the
area.
O
In
the
beginning,
when
I
started,
we
didn't
have
any
markets,
china
or
the
united
states,
and
we
had
to
go
out
and
we
had
to
coax
all
of
those
in
order
to
make
them
happen,
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
again
right
now
and
we're
we're
at
sort
of
a
a
new
beginning.
I've
had
a
strange
sense
of
deja
vu
through
this
whole
hearing.
The
terms
are
different.
The
descriptions
are
different,
but
we
did
all
of
this.
O
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
feedback,
mr
samson,
and
I
think
it's
true.
You
know
we.
We
were
a
leader
in
this
area
and
that's
what
we
need
to
be
now.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
feedback
council
support.
We
are
going
to
move
on
to
the
next
panel,
so
we
need
to
ensure
that
all
of
the
witnesses
that
were
sent
are
logged
onto
the
hearing.
So
thank
you
all
so
much
for
your
testimony,
mike
and
maurice
and
for
hanging
in
there
with
us.
A
We
are
moving
on
to
our
next
panel,
so
I'll
give
you
all
an
opportunity
to
load
up
the
next
set
of
witnesses.
Do
we
need
to
take
a
short
break.
A
M
A
Okay,
so
we
will
take
a
very
short
break
to
load
up
our
next
set
of
witnesses.
Who
will
all
give
public
comment?
Thank
you
all.
So.
I
I
A
A
D
Yeah
hello,
my
name
is
nino
ravel,
I'm
a
resident
of
east
mount
airy
and
a
volunteer
leader
with
sierra
club
southeastern
pa
group.
D
I
wanted
to
comment
that
our
streets
department
has
doggedly
tried
keeping
up
with
curbside
collections.
Let
me
mute
the
music
please
and
we
agree
it's
been
harder
than
ever
this
year.
Residential
curbside
collection,
though,
is
just
one
part
of
our
waste
stream.
There
is
commercial
waste,
construction
and
demolition
waste
illegal
dumping
in
street
litter,
none
of
which
is
picked
up
by
the
trash
trucks
and
all
of
which
could
be
handled
better.
So
I
think
it's
time
for
us
to
rethink
waste.
D
We
need
to
think
like
nature,
where
there
is
no
waste
where
the
waste
of
one
group
is
eyed
as
a
resource
by
another
group.
Humans
have
been
part
of
this
cycle
for
centuries
until
we
introduce
plastics
plastics
and
their
complex
chemicals
end
up
in
our
waterways
or
get
incinerated,
it's
bad
either
way
so
to
rethink
waste
in
our
city.
Like
maurice
samson
just
said,
we
need
to
loop
in
planners
and
educators
that
think,
like
nature,
that
think
from
a
zero
waste
perspective,
the
work
will
lead.
D
We
also
talked
about
more
local
jobs
when
we
were
a
zero
waste
house
deserve
our
business
as
usual.
Have
we
can
begin
by
implementing
the
long-awaited
ban
on
single-use
plastic
bags?
New
york
state's
bag
ban
was
questioned
during
the
pandemic.
Induced
panic
this
spring,
but
their
ban
has
survived
the
pandemic,
and
so
should
ours.
D
Although
it's
a
plastic
toothbrush,
I
only
need
to
change
the
bristles
when
needed,
holding
on
to
the
same
handle
for
all
these
years.
That's
99,
less
plastic
to
throw
out
zero
waste
means,
never
buying
something
you'll
use
just
once.
I
personally
would
like
us
to
replicate
the
concept
of
a
free
store
in
each
neighborhood.
There
are
so
many
items
thrown
out
that
are
perfectly
fine
and
reusable
by
someone
else.
D
A
Thank
you
so
much
me
now
for
your
testimony
and
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
being
a
part
of
these
subcommittees
as
a
part
of
the
committee
on
environment.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
testimony
for
your
work
and
for
your
feedback.
Logan
welty,
please
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
proceed
with
your
testimony.
P
P
I
did
provide
written
testimony
with
a
number
of
examples
of
legislation
that
will
help
with
the
litter
and
waste
problem
and,
as
you
know,
also
on
the
subcommittee,
you
know
I
I
don't
know
how
many
council
members
are
still
on,
but
I
want
you
all
to
just
reimagine
as
immunologists
stated,
what
trash
and
waste
and
litter
is
it's
not
just
items
that
need
to
be
picked
up
and
disposed
of,
but
it's
a
real
cost
to
the
soul
of
the
city.
P
Litter
adds
to
crime,
depression
and
poverty,
and
our
neighborhoods
are
overburdened
by
litter
and
it's
crushing
their
souls.
Yes,
it
is
a
financial
burden.
The
city
spends
an
estimated
48
million
per
year
on
trash
and
litter,
there's
even
a
bigger
cost
than
money.
Recent
study
in
jama
concluded
that
living
in
or
near
trashed
and
littered
neighborhoods
can
have
substantial
negative
health
consequences.
According
to
that
report,
neighborhoods
that
were
cleaned
and
greened
saw
a
63
decrease
in
self-reported
mental
health
issues.
P
A
29
decrease
in
gun
violence,
an
increase
in
property
values
and
an
increase
in
business
investment.
The
average
american
produces
over
four
pounds
of
trash
per
day,
and
I
assume
covet
has
exacerbated
this.
The
fact
is,
we've
changed
the
way
we've
lived
and
municipalities
have
been
asked
to
take
on
that
burden.
P
P
It
would
be
crazy
to
go:
ask
the
water
department
to
build
more
pipes
or
to
increase
the
number
of
storm
drains.
What
you
would
do
and
what
would
be
logical,
is
to
simply
turn
off
those
fire.
Hydrants.
We've
got
to
think
the
same
way
about
trash
and
litter.
This
way
we've
got
to
stop
these
things
from
coming
into
our
communities.
There
is
no
reason
why
these
things
need
to
keep
on
coming
in
when
so
many
of
them
are
superfluous.
P
We've
got
to
pass
legislation.
Councilman
green
has
a
bill
that
I
gave
him
probably
about
two
years
ago
to
stop
circulars
and
phone
books
from
coming
in
to
the
city
and
we'd
like
to
see
that
introduced
recycling
is
done.
It's
not
the
answer.
The
virgin
plastic
is
way
too.
Cheap
recycling
cannot
compete
anywhere
in
this
world.
With
that,
we
shouldn't
return
to
a
normal
path
of
collection.
As
carlton
williams
said,
we
should
change
that
curve,
because
that
curve
is
going
to
keep
on
going
higher.
P
P
Unfortunately,
too,
many
people
who
care
about
the
city
like
me
and
others
are
becoming
disillusioned.
It's
just
too
littered
it's
too
trashed
and
there
are
cleaner
places
to
live,
and
some
of
those
people
are
going
to
start
moving.
Cass
warmer
councilwoman
bass
asked
about
outside
the
box
ideas.
There
are
plenty,
and
none
of
those
include
keeping
the
amount
of
litter
that
we
have
and
just
trying
to
land
fill
it
all.
It
really
comes
down
to
stopping
the
amount
of
trash
that's
coming
into
the
city
thanks
a
lot.
A
Logan,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
testimony
and
for
all
of
your
work
and
for
also
being
a
member
of
our
subcommittees.
We
truly
appreciate
all
the
ideas
that
you
bring
to
the
table.
So
thank
you
for
your
work.
Morgan
berman.
Please
proceed
with
your
testimony.
A
D
Okay,
thank
you.
My
name
is
morgan
berman,
I'm
a
resident
in
south
philadelphia
and
I'm
also
the
president
of
my
civic
association,
dickinson
square
west,
I'm
on
the
board
of
the
energy
coordinating
agency
and
philly
startup
leaders,
and
also
the
philadelphia
chapter
of
alma
links,
which
is
an
international
entrepreneurship
association.
D
I
moved
back
to
philadelphia
and
eventually
earned
my
master's
of
science
and
sustainable
design
because
of
my
passion
for
solving
our
greatest
challenges
and
opportunities,
which
are,
I
think,
climate
change
and
social
equity.
Seven
years
ago
I
took
my
passion
and
experience
in
marketing
and
design,
and
I
built
my
philadelphia-based
software
company
milk
crate.
At
milcrate,
we
build
affordable
mobile
apps
to
help
civic
and
non-profit
programs,
engage
and
communicate
with
participants
and
track
their
impacts
in
our
work.
D
As
of
our
last
communication
with
the
streets
department,
we
were
actually
asked
to
provide
our
services
for
free.
This
is
certainly
not
an
appropriate
request
of
a
small
local
business
with
employees
to
pay
we're
ready
to
get
to
work,
and
we
have
full
confidence
that
we
can
launch
an
innovative
and
impactful
solution,
as
we've
done
numerous
times
over
the
last
seven
years,
but
it
will
require
the
streets.
Department's
leadership,
take
a
leap
and
try
something
new
that
focuses
on
engaging
our
residents
and
utilizing
modern
technology
solutions
like
ours.
D
I
hope
that
the
other
testimony
today
motivates
and
inspires
you
all
the
decision
makers
here
that
it's
time
to
try
something
new,
something
that
has
been
applied
in
similar
context,
with
great
results
at
a
much
reduced
price
than
what
you're
currently
implementing
or
what
has
already
had
to
be
canceled
and
that
it
looks
to
our
residents
not
as
a
problem,
but
as
a
solution
to
litter
and
all
the
other
sustainability
issues
plaguing
our
city.
Thank
you.
A
Morgan,
thank
you
so
much
for
all
of
your
work
in
the
philadelphia
community,
and
I
remember
meeting
you
a
couple
of
years
ago,
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
and
I
hope
that
your
little
person
is
doing
well,
so
we're
gonna
move
on
to
jim
blanchett.
Please
proceed
with
your
testimony.
J
Hi
everybody
yeah,
my
name
is
jim
blanchet,
I'm
a
committee
person
in
point
breeze,
I'm
also
a
clean
technology
professional
and
I'm
an
advisor
to
milk
crate.
So
you
just
heard
from
morgan
who's,
the
ceo
of
milk
crate.
I'm
gonna,
try
not
to
repeat
much
of
what
she
said.
I'm
also
not
gonna
touch
on
waste
collection,
source
reduction.
Those
are
things
that
are
not
my
field.
J
I'm
going
to
talk
about
technology
and
engagement.
When
we
talk
about
litter,
we
talk
a
lot
about
sources,
infrastructure,
education
and
those
are
valuable
discussions,
but
the
program
that
we
were,
we
were
all
ready
to
launch
for
the
city,
as
a
pilot
looks
at
it
through
positive
engagement
of
residents.
J
I
think
everybody
knows
that
outside
the
center
city
business
district,
where
private
contractors
are
paid
to
clean
up
litter
every
day,
litter
is
just
the
fact
of
life.
Logan
mentioned
the
disenfranchisement.
That
is
a
very
real
thing
here.
These
are
just
to
list
a
couple
things:
we've
tried
in
the
past
to
address
street
litter,
adding
public
trash
cans
and
trash
compactors,
marketing
campaigns,
mailers,
postcards,
etc.
Handing
out
recycling
bins
with
lids
a
street
sweeping
pilot,
a
web
platform
that
lets
me
see
how
late
my
trash
collection
is.
Those
things
have
some.
J
J
J
We
can
spend
tons
of
time
and
money
on
solutions
that
appeal
to
people
who
have
already
bought
in
the
people
that
are
on
this
phone
call.
The
amazing
block
captains,
the
great
volunteers,
people
who
pick
up
litter
every
single
day,
but
the
litter
index
has
gone
up
not
down,
meaning
we
see
more,
not
less
street
litter
and
that's
not
because
strategies
that
are
being
implemented
aren't
well
designed
and
planned.
J
It's
because
they
are
providing
more
and
more
resources
to
the
same
group
of
people.
Who've
already
decided
that
they
care
and
have
already
opted
in.
Everybody
else
is
disenfranchised
or
worse.
They're
apathetic,
you
don't
change
that
by
offering
more
tools
and
programs
to
the
same
people,
you
don't
you
don't
change
that
by
doing
the
same
thing
over
and
over
again,
you
have
to
do
something
drastically
different,
so
the
streets
commissioner
mentioned
pick
up.
Phl,
I'm
going
to
talk
about
that
real
quick.
J
Since
we
work
in
tech,
council
member
bass
mentioned
that
she
didn't
know
about
it
and
I
think
that's
a
great
point.
First
of
all,
it's
not
an
app.
It
is
very
important
to
distinguish
that
it
is
not
a
mobile
app.
It's
a
web
platform
that
I
can
use
on
a
browser
on
my
phone,
if
I'm
comfortable
with
that,
but
I
missed
it
too
when
she,
when
he
talked
about
it,
I
looked
it
up.
We
work
in
tech
morgan
and
I
and
we
missed
it
and
that's
not
a
problem
of
marketing
or
education.
J
That's
the
problem
with
the
program
design.
If
there's
no
reason
for
me
to
be
interested
in
logging
into
a
platform,
because
I'm
already
apathetic
I'm
not
going
to
go
log
into
that
platform.
I
applaud
any
efforts
to
leverage
tech
to
try
and
solve
to
solve
this
issue
because
we
work
in
tech.
We
love
tech,
but
before
we
go
around
patting
ourselves
in
the
back
for
building
tools,
doing
things
in-house
and
saving
money,
I
would
ask
the
members
of
the
community
to
ask
yourselves
and
ask
the
people
who
are
building
this
tech.
J
For
you,
a
couple
very
important
questions.
How
many
active
users
are
on
the
tech,
not
not
visits
or
web
traffic?
How
many
active
users,
what
time
of
day
are
they
using
the
platform?
How
does
adoption
change
over
time?
Where
are
the
users
of
the
app
or
any
technology?
Are
they
in
the
neighborhoods
that
are
most
negatively
impacted
by
litter
and
what
kpis
or
measurements
are
using
to
gauge
the
value
of
that
app?
And
if
you
see
them
trending
down
what
levers
can
you
pull
to
make
adjustments?
J
If
those
are
questions
that
you
can't
answer,
that's
a
very,
very
serious
problem
living
in
a
dynamic
means.
We
have
lots
more
people
living
at
home
now
and
a
lot
of
those
people
are
out
of
work
now
when
the
city's
budget
and
resources
are
constrained
by
kobits
spending,
time
and
effort
and
money
building
tools
and
launching
programs
that
are
that
are
not
directly
designed
to
incentivize
and
engage
people
who
are
currently
not
helping
to
address.
This
problem
is
very
problematic
time
that
we
spend
doing
that.
Building
more
tools
for
the
same
people
is.
J
Is
time
that's
wasted
right
now.
I
I
would
really
ask
that
you
think
think
about
this
as
a
time
to
engage
local
tech
companies
to
help
you
think
differently
about
this
problem.
Let
us
help
you
crowdsource
litter
prevention
and
address
litter,
and
we
can
bring
more
people
into
this
discussion
that
have
never
been
there
before.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
and
thank
you
so
much
for
your
testimony
and
for
those
concrete
questions.
We
really
really
appreciate
that
feedback
tracy
confer
please
identify
yourself
for
the
record
and
proceed
with
your
testimony.
Q
Q
One
is
that
when
a
local
sanitation
convenience
center
cannot
accept
yard
waste
as
ash
burner
could
not
last
time
I
took
a
car
load,
it
would
be
good
if
fairmount
park
composting
site
did
not
charge
residents.
A
15
dollar
minimum
fee
to
drop
off.
Q
Third,
having
paper
in
the
recycling
bins
is
a
problem.
A
single
single
stream
recycling
reduces
the
value
of
paper
and
cardboard
and
when
it
rains,
paper
gets
wet,
clogs
up
the
sorting
machinery,
so
in
future
recycling
contracts
it
would
be.
It
would
be
better
to
have
paper
separate
from
other
collections.
Q
Q
D
Q
Five
trash
incinerators
around
the
city
are
among
the
top
10
air
polluters
in
this
region,
and
the
incinerator
that
philly
uses
most
in
the
city
of
fester
is
the
largest
in
the
nation,
with
the
fewest
pollution
controls
and
is
the
number
one
air
polluter
in
the
philly
area.
So
I
strongly
encourage
not
renewing
a
contract
for
ways
that
would
go
to
a
burner.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
testimony
and
for
those
four
points
of
feedback
I
was
taking
copious
notes.
Thank
you
very
much,
lynn,
robinson
one
of
our
subcommittee
members.
Please
identify
yourself
with
a
record
and
proceed
with
your
testimony.
R
Okay,
my
name
is
lynn
robinson.
I
want
to
thank
you,
katherine
gilmer
richardson
and
the
committee
for
taking
my
comments,
which
are
limited
to
a
small
box
of
waste
disposal
today,
I'm
a
retired
philadelphia,
school
teacher
director
of
neighbors
against
the
gas
plants
and
an
active
member
on
the
air
quality
and
energy
advisory
subgroups.
R
Last
year,
city
council
allowed
the
streets
department
to
sign
up
for
four
to
seven
more
years
of
trash
incineration
with
covanta,
which
is
the
late.
The
nation's
largest
incineration
company
council
was
participation
to
not
do
this
in
a
letter
that
was
signed
by
a
wide
range
of
41,
mostly
city-based
organizations,
but
also
including
the
three
community
groups
that
live
next
to
the
incinerators
and
landfills
that
we
use
to
dispose
of
our
waste.
R
R
On
the
other
side
of
the
the
coin,
there's
organizations
who
favor
incineration
but
they're,
funded
by
covanta,
for
example,
the
center
for
american
progress,
which
has
been
receiving
50
to
100
000
a
year
and
the
chester
environmental
partnership,
which
receives
thirty
thousand
dollars
in
donations
a
year
from
covanta.
R
So
in
conclusion
to
all
that,
we
have
to
move
away
from
burning
our
trash
and
recyclables
as
soon
as
possible
and
pass
the
waste
contracting
for
clean
air
act
that
we
just
submitted
to
you
about
10
days
ago
and
when
I
say
we're
burning
our
recyclables.
It's
because,
unfortunately,
sometimes
the
recyclables
are
ending
up
in
the
trash,
especially
since
covet
began,
people
have
watched
their
recycling
thrown
into
trash
trucks
and
felt
betrayed,
and
there
hasn't
been
any
kind
of
a
plan
coming
from
the
streets
department.
R
That's
communicated
to
the
public
that
this
will
stop
happening,
unpredictably
and
forever
so
anyway.
The
other
thing
is
that
people
still
don't
know
that
contaminating
their
recycling.
The
containers
for
one
thing,
don't
have
any
printing
on
them.
That
lists.
What's:
okay
and
what's
not
okay
to
put
in
and
the
streets
department
in
general
doesn't
communicate
effectively
with
the
public,
so
they
recently
sent
out
a
postcard
and
postcards
are
great.
But
this
one
had
a
title
that
said:
10
tips
to
curb
your
waste.
R
R
R
But
in
conclusion
we
need
to
pass
the
waste
contracting
for
clean
air
act.
We
need
to
begin
a
two-way
conversation
or
communication
between
the
streets
department
and
the
public,
and
we
need
to
change
our
recycling
methods.
We
need
more
effective
systems,
as
logan
put
it
to
turn
the
fire
hydrants
off
and,
as
mino
put
it
change
the
brush
on
the
toothbrush
handle
and
not
throw
away
the
whole
thing.
So
thanks
a
lot
for
listening.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
feedback,
and
particularly
around
the
postcard
in
point
number.
Seven.
I
just
made
a
notation
here.
So
thank
you
very
very
much
for
your
testimony.
A
We
will
now
proceed
with
testimony
from
bridget
powell
bridget.
Please
identify
yourself
for
the
record
and
proceed
with
your
testimony.
D
Good
evening
my
name
is
bridget
cao
and
I
want
to
thank
you,
councilwoman
gilmore
richardson,
for
taking
me
to
hear
about
my
issues
with
litter.
I've
heard
plenty
of
people
talk,
so
I'm
gonna
keep
mine
short
and
brief
and
try
and
touch
on
things
that
I
have
not
heard.
D
I
have
lived
in
west
philadelphia
for
over
40
years
near
63rd
and
market
and
currently
I'm
a
cold
block
captain
I'm
part
of
the
beautification
committee
and
I'm
also
a
girl
scout
leader
of
25
years.
The
biggest
thing
I
see
and
I
would
love-
and
I
like
the
recycling
part,
but
first
we
need
to
get
the
trash
off
the
street
and
no
matter
how
much
we
try.
We
clean
the
trash
up.
We
just
had
our
trash
picked
up
at
63rd
the
market.
The
trash
will
be
back
there
tomorrow.
D
We
are
trying
our
best,
but
I
think
we
need
some
red
cameras.
Just
like
we
have
red
cameras
for
people
who
run
red
lights.
We
need
red
cameras
because
there
are
obviously
contractors
and
people
just
dumping
in
our
cities.
Councilwoman
garcia
has
been
doing
an
excellent
job.
In
the
last
two
weeks.
We've
been
sending
her
pictures,
she's
been
helping
us
get
things
cleaned
up
and
she's
seen
it
herself
within
two
days
at
51st
and
wildling.
The
trash
is
back
there.
D
What
I
would
suggest
is
maybe,
in
each
council
district,
maybe
having
a
dumpster
so
that
people
can
put
stuff
in
it.
I
see
I'm
not
far
from
upper
darby
every
saturday
morning
I
see
people
out
there
cleaning
up.
I
guess
these
are
people
who
committed
low
crimes
that
are
out
here
doing
community
service.
If
we
can
do
some
of
those
things-
and
I
commend
you
for
having-
I
guess-
pha
philadelphia,
horticultural
society
are
now
paying
people
to
employing
them
so
that
they
will
have
opportunities,
but
also
as
a
park
ranger.
D
I
used
to
work
in
the
park
and
I
appreciate
all
the
efforts,
but
we
definitely
need
some
red
camera
lights
out
here
with
some
fines,
because
these
signs
that
are
underneath
the
l
and
talk
about
finding
people
they
put
the
trash
right
underneath
the
signs.
So
we
need
to
do
something
different
and
I
think,
having
a
cleaner
environment
does
help
someone
mentally.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
Thank
you
bridget.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
testimony
and
for
all
that
you
do
within
the
west
philadelphia
community.
Thank
you
very
very
much.
I
will
now
hear
from
lisa
hasting.
Please
identify
yourself
for
the
record
and
proceed
with
your
testimony.
D
Hi,
I'm
lisa
hastings,
I'm
a
lifelong
environmental,
scientist
and
planner,
and
I'm
also
working
with
the
air
and
energy
subcommittee.
To
be
brief.
As
a
former
environmental
planner,
I
support
moving
ahead
without
without
further
planning
truthfully
moving
ahead
with
known
program,
modifications
and
new
legislation,
just
in
order
to
take
the
action
that
we
need
to
take
without
any
further
delay.
New
laws
also
can
jump,
start
vibrant
plans
and
unlike
plans,
they
authorize
action.
D
I
support
the
wave
contracting
for
clean
air
bill
that
was
discussed
earlier
and
I
think
it
needs
to
be
enacted
soon,
so
it
can
both
be
applied
during
the
next
contracting
cycle
and
so
that
we
don't
continue
to
turn
our
municipal
trash
into
pollution.
D
On
trash
briefly,
I
support
compact
packing
trash
cans
outside
center
city,
particularly
nearby
bus
stops
in
parks
and
along
corridors
with
lots
of
pedestrian
traffic.
Can
anyone
hear
me.
D
Okay,
because
I
was
getting
crosstalk
okay,
we
definitely
need
more
compacting
trash
cans
outside
of
center
city.
D
Also,
after
listening
to
the
testimony
on
the
mission
driven
contractors
and
the
problems
with
recycling,
I'm
thinking
that
reuse
and
recycling
might
be
areas
where
the
city
wants
to
rethink
what
they're
doing,
including
the
easily
contaminated
single
stream
open
containers,
but
where
we
might
want
to
look
for
using
mission-driven
contractors
instead
of
a
you
know,
large
corporate
contractors
that
don't
give
us
the
flexibility
that
we
need
for
our
waste
stream.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
lisa.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
work
and
for
your
testimony
and
for
being
a
member
of
our
air
and
energy
subcommittee.
We
truly
appreciate
all
of
the
feedback
that
we
receive
from
you.
Next,
we
will
hear
from
lisa
schargeroski.
D
My
name
is
elisa
sharkowski
and
thank
you
councilwoman
richardson,
for
just
all
of
your
attention
and
of
all
of
the
people
who
are
here.
I
really
appreciate
you
acknowledging
all
of
the
work
that's
happening
here
even
on
this
call
from
you
know
carlton
to
our
community
members.
So
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
I'd
like
to
proceed
by
stating
that
I
am
a
consultant.
I
work
locally,
I'm
a
zero
waste
consultant.
D
I've
been
doing
this
for
about
six
years
here
in
philadelphia,
I'm
actually
philly,
born
and
bred.
I
have
two
teenagers,
and
so
this
topic
is
very
very
close
to
my
heart
and
I
dedicate
my
whole
life
to
this.
One
of
my
contracts,
right
now
is
beavers
way:
food
co-op.
D
They
are
the
oldest
food
co-op
in
philadelphia
with
10
000
member
households,
and
we
are
actually
we
do
a
lot
of
things
to
help
our
members
to
understand
about
this
movement
towards
classroom
class
plastic
reduction
and
something
that
I
want
for
everybody
to
acknowledge
and
something
that
should
be
on
the
record.
Is
that
we're
constantly
talking
about
mitigation
and
we're
not
having
enough
conversations
about
truly
how
to
get
on
the
ground
with
reduction
we
have
so
we
have
giant
industries
that
are
selling
goods
here
and
everything
everything
in
the
grocery
store.
D
Everything
that
we
buy
has
a
package
associated
with
it.
So
when
we're
talking
to
residents
and
telling
them
that
we
they
should
be
mindful
about
zero
waste,
it's
like
those
two
things
are
not
congruent
with
what
we're
doing
at
the
market
level.
So
what
I'm
doing
with
weaver's
way
currently
is.
We
are
putting
models
into
place,
a
system
into
place
internally
in
the
co-op
to
have
a
take
back,
a
more
deposit-like
circular,
circular
process,
where
so,
in
the
past
few
years,
everywhere,
every
year
weaver's
way
generates
or
sells.
D
Four
hundred
thousand
eight
ounce
plastic
containers.
So
when
we're
thinking
about
this
citywide
we're
talking
about
just
a
local
tiny
little
co-op,
let's
think
about
every
store
across
the
city
what's
happening,
is
that
we
have
so
many
this
grab-and-go
culture,
convenience
culture,
that's
what
we
need
to
be
talking
about.
D
Right
now
like
we
need
to
be
having
this
discussion
right
now,
because
there
are
so
many
containers
being
generated
and
we
could
be
incorporate
bringing
commerce
into
this
conversation
to
have
corridors
where
we
are
literally
having
containers
member-based
programs
where
people
are
putting
their
take
out
food
in
reusable
containers
and
then
using
my
service,
my
company
ecosystems,
to
clean
these
containers
to
put
these
things
into
circulation,
and
so
I
just
want
for
for
this
to
be
on
the
record
that
we
are
here
for
that
and
we're
hoping
that
we
can
expand
these
into
neighborhoods
in
philadelphia.
A
Elisa
thank
you
so
much
for
your
testimony.
I
think
a
lot
of
what
you
noted
has
been
I've
read
in
this
report
from
the
macarthur
foundation.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
you
so
much
for
your
testimony
and
for
your
feedback
and
particularly
all
your
work
with
weaver's
way,
who
has
truly
been
a
pioneer
in
the
northwest
section
of
philadelphia,
and
I
wanted
to
note
for
the
record
that
we
appreciate
the
increased
store
hours
that
you
all
have
implemented
as
a
result
of
code
at
19..
A
So
thank
you
very,
very
much
for
your
work
and
all
that
you
do
here.
Peg
shaw.
Please
identify
yourself
for
the
record
and
proceed
with
your
testimony
and
thank
you
so
much
for
being
a
member
of
our
subcommittees.
We
appreciate
all
of
your
feedback
and
your
work
peg.
Q
Good
afternoon,
everyone
and
thank
you
for
staying
on
this
call
for
so
long
and
so
good
afternoon,
chairperson
gilmore
richardson
and
committee
members,
and
thank
you
for
this
hearing.
My
name
is
peg
shaw
and,
on
behalf
of
toxic
free
philly,
I
want
to
express
our
support
for
resolution.
Two
zero,
zero.
Four
three
one
environmental
pollution
is
insidious,
as
we
know
it
is
often
invisible
and
its
impacts
are
often
delayed
and
compounded
with
other
exposure
to
toxins
and
stress
environmental
pollution
causes
chronic
health
disease
that
significantly
erode
quality
of
life
and
leads
to
early
mortality.
Q
When,
coupled
with
the
climate
crisis,
the
city
must
now
do
everything
in
its
power
to
eliminate
environmental
pollution
with
forward-thinking
solutions
that
build
a
just
green
economy,
and
I
think
this
hearing
today
is
a
fantastic
start.
Toxic-Free
philly
urges
the
city
to
stop
burning
our
trash
and
recycling.
Q
Q
Our
food
and
yard
waste
is
one
solution
with
multiple
benefits.
Climate
impacting
emissions
from
landfills
can
be
drastically
reduced
by
removing
food
and
yard
waste.
This
material
could
be
redirected
to
community
composting
operations,
and
I
want
to
thank
bennett
composting
for
leading
the
way
locally.
I
take
a
part
personally
in
their
in
their
services.
Q
This
will
not
only
save
on
disposal
costs,
but
the
outputs
can
support
our
growing
urban
farming
initiatives
and
support
the
resiliency
of
our
urban
forests
and
native
habitats.
Q
However,
trash
and
plastics
must
first
be
removed
from
food
and
yard
waste
streams
prior
to
composting
or
mulching,
so
we
don't
end
up
redistributing
micro
trash
with
our
compost
or
mulch.
This
is
currently
an
issue
with
the
city's
yard
waste
recycling
center.
So
just
in
conclusion,
composting
our
food
and
yard
waste
is
a
win-win-win
solution.
Toxic
free
philly
supports
the
committee
on
the
environment
to
hold
hearings
to
find
solutions
towards
zero
waste,
and
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
your
time
today.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
peg
for
your
testimony
and
again
for
being
a
part
of
our
subcommittees
and
also
for
mentioning
the
chest.
Incinerator,
I
think,
is
not
one
of
the
best
kept
secrets
that
my
husband
is
from
chester
and
is
from
the
biggest
family
in
chester,
and
a
lot
of
them
suffer
with
asthma
as
to
my
husband
and
my
children.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
mentioning
the
work
that
we
need
to
do
to
reduce.
A
What's
going
down
stream
to
chester
in
that
incinerator
and
for
all
of
your
work,
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
you
on
our
subcommittees.
Next,
we
will
hear
from
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Next,
we
will
hear
from
erica
berman.
Please
identify
yourself
for
the
record
and
proceed
with
your
testimony.
S
Hi,
I'm
erica
berman,
I'm
a
resident
of
delaware
county
and
I
work
in
downtown
chester,
I'm
at
the
historical
society,
my
family's
from
chester
and
I
work
about
a
half
a
mile
away
from
covanta
trash
incinerator,
I'm
currently
organizing
with
mike
ewald
energy
justice
network
and
the
chester
residence
group
that
has
been
fighting
the
trash
incinerator
in
chester
for
nearly
30
years,
a
city
experiencing
one
of
the
worst
cases
of
environmental
racism.
S
I
realize
that
a
lot
of
these
comments.
A
lot
of
great
comments
have
already
been
made,
so
I
just
want
to
make
a
few
extra
points.
I
commend
council
for
taking
up
this
resolution
to
examine
the
challenges
and
opportunities
of
waste
management
in
philly
right
now.
Half
of
philly's
recycling
is
being
burned
in
chester
and
a
large
amount
of
the
city's
trash
mike
earlier
covered.
The
statistics
on
how
incineration
is
much
worse
than
landfilling
waste
stands
at
the
intersection
of
climate
change,
racism
and
health.
S
Perhaps
cobia
19
has
given
us
a
jump
start
to
get
on
top
of
this
issue.
The
residents
of
chester
are
paying
for
phillies
and
the
region's
trash
bombs
with
their
lives.
The
health
impacts
from
incinerator-
air
pollution
is
clear:
philly
needs
to
be
a
partner
to
chester
and
not
continue
to
utilize
it
as
a
dumping
ground
and
a
place
for
its
soccer
team,
bearing
the
city's
name.
Billy
should
divert
its
weights
away
from
chester
towards
better
solutions
like
landfilling,
while
aggressively
educating
and
implementing
zero
waste
programs.
S
I
appreciated
the
comment
that
that
was
said
earlier
around
messaging
for
zero
waste,
so
it
doesn't
seem
impossible
to
those
unfamiliar
with
the
clown.
You.
K
A
Excuse
me
erica
pardon
me
one
moment
have
just
a
quick
point
of
concern,
whoever
that
is
with
the
noise
in
the
background,
if
they
could
go
on
mute
so
that
we
can
hear
erica's
testimony,
please
go
on
mute
if
you
are
not
currently
testifying.
Thank
you
very
much
erica.
Please
proceed
with
your
testimony.
S
Okay,
thank
you.
Philadelphia
has
one
of
the
highest
asthma
and
cancer
rates
in
the
nation,
and
we
need
to
work
together
and
innovate.
Our
systems
to
clean
up
our
air
by
banning
inverting
it
in
our
backyard
plastic
bands
must
not
be
pushed
off.
We
need
to
stop
brushing
this
problem
under
the
rug.
The
rug
is
poisoning
us
and
we
are
putting
ourselves
at
higher
risk
for
viruses
like
covid19.
S
S
A
D
D
Rats
are
coveted
carriers,
the
fiends
it
attracts
fiends
because
they
come
and
dig
through
that
trash.
D
They
just
toss
out
their
needles
on
top
of
the
trash
and
into
the
pile
used
needles,
and
I
was
really
offended
when,
when
a
city
council
member
said
that
we
don't
report
it
because
it's
a
no
snitching
arabia,
the
cops
don't
come
to
our
area
because
of
trash
so
that
that's
that's
fact
they
just
don't
care.
D
So
maybe
you
all
can
help
us
by
setting
up
some
kinds
of
surveillance.
There's
101
cameras
around-
I
just
honest
to
god.
Don't
know
how
the
police
or
different
people
aren't
seeing
people
dumping
trash
and
really
doing
something
about
it.
I
understand
that
this
is
near
k.
A
we've
got
a
serious
drug
problem.
D
We've
got
a
lot
of
crime,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
my
my
children
have
to
be.
You
know
like
see
this
and
smell
this
and
be
part
of
that.
A
woman's
child
just
got
bit
by
a
rat
because
that's
how
bad
it
is
and
the
trash
usually
takes
a
day
or
two
ever
since
cold
it,
and
we
just
feel
like
you
all,
just
don't
care
and
then
to
hear
a
city
council
member
say
that
we
don't
report
it
because
we're
in
a
snow,
snitching.
D
A
You
first,
I
just
wanted
to
to
thank
you
amber
for
your
testimony
and
say
that
we
do
care.
That's
the
reason
why
we
are
having
this
hearing.
A
We
want
to
hear
directly
from
you
on
how
we
can
help
to
mitigate
other
issues
that
you
are
faced
with
in
that
community,
and
I
I
wanted
you
to
know
that
earlier
this
summer
I
was
in
the
exact
area
that
you
are
referring
to
with
the
crew
of
sanitation
workers
to
see
firsthand
a
number
of
the
challenges
that
they
are
faced
with
in
that
community,
and
I
do
understand
what
you
are
saying
and
I'm
going
to
ask
my
staff
if
you
can
work
with
council
support,
if
we
could
follow
up
with
you
on
some
of
those
particular
issues
and
with
your
district
council
person,
so
that
we
can
ensure
we
try
to
address
some
of
those
issues
right
away,
but
know
that
we
do
care.
A
That's
the
reason
why
we
are
here
and
listening
to
this
testimony
so
that
we
can
review
all
of
this.
So
we
can
make
a
difference
on
behalf
of
you
and
all
the
individuals
that
we
serve
in
our
great
city.
So,
thank
you
for
your
testimony.
I'm
going
to
ask
council
support
to
please
help
you
get
connected
to
my
team
so
that
we
can
follow
up.
Thank
you
very,
very
much
amber
okay.
Thank
you!
Yes,
ma'am.
Thank
you
very
very
much.
A
Next,
we
will
hear
from
peter
winslow
if
you
can
identify
yourself
with
the
record
and
proceed
with
your
testimony
and
peter.
I
want
to
take
a
point
of
personal
privilege
to
also
thank
you
for
being
a
part
of
our
subcommittees
with
the
committee
on
environment.
We
appreciate
your
work
so
peter
proceed
with
your
testimony.
D
Oh,
thank
you
very
much
good
afternoon.
Thank
you
mark,
excuse
me,
chairwoman,
gilmore
richardson
and
members
of
the
committee
on
the
environment.
My
name
is
peter
winslow,
I'm
a
member,
I'm
excuse
my
resident
in
the
west
mount
airy
neighborhood
of
philadelphia,
I'm
speaking
today
on
behalf
of
a
smart
collaboration,
and
I'm
going
to
make
it
brief.
D
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
discuss
challenges
and
solutions
to
street
litter
and
waste
disposal
systems
in
the
wake
of
the
pandemic.
Waste
does
not
exist
in
nature.
Waste
is
a
construct
of
how
human
society
has
organized
itself.
The
concept
of
waste
is
based
in
our
economic
system,
specifically
that
our
economic
system
ignores
the
biological,
chemical
and
physical
reality
that
everything
is
interconnected.
D
The
pandemic
has
exacerbated
the
underlying
problems
associated
with
sanitation,
we're
producing
more
household
waste,
because
we're
housebound
collection
is
impeded
by
increased
illness
in
our
workforce,
but
if
we
don't
deal
with
the
underlying
problems
that
confronted
us
before
the
pandemic,
we'll
still
need
to
sell
them
after
this
pandemic
has
passed,
the
pandemic
is
adversely
and
disparate
and
desperately
impacting
poor.
Black
neighborhoods
coba
19
is
an
airborne
disease,
vector
exacerbated
by
poor
air
quality,
specifically
the
presence
of
particulate
matter.
Now
that
the
pes
refinery
has
been
closed.
D
The
three
trash
incinerators
around
surrounding
philadelphia
located
in
poor
black
neighborhoods
amid
the
most
particulate
matter
in
our
region,
contributing
to
over
100
million
dollars
in
health
cost
to
our
region
each
year
before
the
pandemic.
These
costs
should
not
be
considered
externalities.
Instead,
these
costs
should
be
avoided
by
reusing
recycling
or
composting.
D
A
T
Yes,
good
afternoon,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
testify.
On
the
I'm
sorry,
the
resolution
two
zero
four
two:
zero
zero.
Four
three
one
I
am
representing
susquehanna
cleanup
pickup
today
our
environmental
education
group,
located
in
the
heart
of
north
philadelphia,
where
we're
working
on
the
issues
of
environmental
justice
daily
from
these
issues
of
litter,
clean
air,
etc
and
healthy
communities
are
very
important
to
us.
T
It's
unfortunate
that
we
have
our
conditions
with
a
noun
and
it
really
affected
how
our
community
handles
recycling.
We
had
really
strongly
encouraged
our
community
to
recycle,
use
our
sanitation
centers
and
now
that
they
learned
that
the
recycling
is
being
dumped
with
the
trash
it
has
really
cut
down
on
a
lot
of
recycling
in
our
community.
T
T
And
increasing
those
funds,
we
need
more
sweep
officers.
There
are
several
sanitation
arms
of
like
pha
temple
university.
I
think
there
needs
to
be
more
coordination
to
get
trash
off
our
streets.
T
But
when
sanitation
does
pick
it
up
at
the
corner,
then
they
think
it's
okay
to
continue
that
process
right
after
the
sanitation
trucks
leave
and
start
that
process
for
it
to
pile
up
all
the
way
to
the
next
week
that
was
before
covet
now
with
covet
it's
worse,
so,
with
more
trash
being
produced
as
people
are
at
home,
I'm
gonna
get
off
now
my
phone
sounds
like
it's
about
to
die,
so
I've
been
waiting
a
while,
but
I
just
want
to
find
out
more
about
this
subcommittee.
I
keep
hearing
everyone
talk
about.
T
I
know
in
the
urban
community.
Environmental
justice
is
not
prominent,
but
I
want
to
let
you
know
we're
up
here
working
diligently
in
north
central
philadelphia.
We
did
have
a
contract
through
phs
for
a
decade,
cleaning,
greening
and
beautifying
our
community,
but
after
10
years
we
have
more
trash
than
we
did
when
we
started.
So
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
today
and
thank
you
very
much.
A
A
Thank
you
very
very
much
for
your
testimony.
We
will
now
move
on
to
our
last
witness
of
the
day,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
very
very
much
for
your
patience
and
I
was
very
surprised
to
see
your
name
on
the
list.
We
have
someone
here
who
has
really
been
the
driving
force
behind
the
chester
resident's,
concern
for
quality
living
and
their
goal
to
make
sure
that
families
in
chester
live
lives,
free
from
polluting
industries.
A
A
T
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
letting
me
give
speak
truth
to
what
is
happening
as
a
result
of
philadelphia
sending
trash
to
chester
my
residents,
my
community,
my
family.
We
are
suffering,
we
probably
get
about
the
bulk
of
the
trash
that
goes
into
the
incinerator
in
the
city
of
chester,
which
is
the
largest
in
the
country,
and
the
majority
of
that
trash
comes
from
the
city
of
brotherly
love
and
sisterly
affection,
which
irked
my
soul.
T
T
T
T
It
impacts
our
children,
give
our
children
a
chance,
and
that
is
what
I
wanted
to
put
on
the
record
today.
Philadelphia
can
find
a
better
way
of
managing
new
trash.
The
alternative,
the
number
one
answer
should
not
be:
oh,
let's
send
it
to
the
covanta
incinerator
in
the
city
of
chester.
T
Why
should
we
bear
the
burden
of
people
decisions
in
chestnut
hill
or
in
roxboro
mania?
Why
should
I
have
to
worry
about?
What's
in
the
trash
the
trucks
that
roll
through
my
community,
the
trains
that
come
to
our
community
and
what's
being
burned
and
the
pollutants
that
come
out
as
a
result
of
them
burning,
arsenic,
cadmium,
lead,
particulate
matter?
T
So
that
is
what
I
wanted
to
say
put
on
the
record
today
that
we
will
work
with
you.
There
has
to
be
a
better
solution.
T
A
Thank
you.
I
thank
you
so
much
for
joining
this
hearing
and
for
your
testimony
and
again
I'm
gonna
ask
my
team
to
follow
up
with
you
so
that
we
can
receive
additional
feedback
from
you
offline.
A
A
Hearing
none
are
there
any
other
questions
or
comments
from
the
members
of
the
committee
all
right
hearing?
None.
I
want
to
thank
all
the
panels
and
witnesses
for
their
participation
today
we
truly
value
your
opinions
and
all
the
feedback
that
you
share
with
us.
This
concludes
the
business
before
the
committee
on
the
environment
today.
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
your
attendance
have
a
great.