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Description
Meeting of Council's Committee of the Whole to hear testimony on the following bills/resolutions: Bill Nos. 160170, 160171, and 160172 & Resolution No. 160180 regarding the FY2017 Capital Budget.
Testimony from:
- Anne Fadullon, Director of Planning and Development
- Melissa Long, Deputy Director
of the Office of Housing and Community Development
- Gary Jastrzab, Executive Director of the City Planning Commission
http://phlcouncil.com/FY17-council-budget-center
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Today
we
will
hear
testimony
from
the
following
city
departments,
mayor's
office
of
planning
and
development,
mayor's
office,
housing,
development,
City,
Planning,
Commission
and
mural
arts,
and
then
we
will
have
license
inspection
and
office
of
information
technology
justice.
The
first
person
to
testify
is
and
fedone
can
we
have
if
it's,
okay
with
you
all
to
bring
to
whoever's
going
to
testify
for
the
first
three
agencies
might
as
well
have
them
all
up
trying
to
facilitate
activity.
C
Good
morning,
council
president
Clark
and
members
of
City
Council,
my
name
is
Anne
fiddling
and
I'm,
director
of
the
office
of
planning
and
development.
The
joining
me
today,
I,
have
the
deputy
director
of
the
office
of
housing
has
a
slightly
different
name
now,
but
anyway,
Melissa
long
and
then
also
the
executive
director
of
the
Planning
Commission
Gary,
jest
Rabb
and
I
also
have
other
members
of
my
staff
here.
Nick
Scaffidi
use
interim
director
of
the
lam
bank
and
John
Farnham,
who
is
executive
director
of
the
store
Commission
as
well
as
my
deputy
director,
Kathy
Calvino.
C
To
that
end,
I'm
pleased
to
provide
testimony
on
our
fiscal
year.
17
operating
budget
and
our
overall
goals
for
2017
within
the
portfolio
of
planning
and
development
are
the
city's
various
planning
and
redevelopment
entities,
including
housing,
community
development,
the
Philadelphia
Redevelopment
Authority,
the
Philadelphia
Housing
Development
Corporation
and
the
land
bank.
We
also
encompass
the
Planning
Commission,
the
Stewart
Commission
in
our
Commission,
and
also
the
office
of
development
development
services
combined.
These
entities
employ
195
full-time
staff
and
15
executive
level
staff.
C
We
represent
a
diverse
City
workforce
of
our
full-time
employees,
50
57
percent
are
female
and
43
percent
are
male,
46
percent
are
african-american,
39
percent
are
white,
12
percent
are
Hispanic
and
3
percent
are
Asian.
The
combined
executive
team,
which
I'm
still
in
the
process
which
we're
still
in
the
process
of
assembling,
is
currently
71
percent
white
and
29
percent
african-american,
65
percent
male
and
35
percent
female.
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C
So
essentially,
our
two
major
goals
in
fiscal
year
17,
are
to
come
up
with
the
overall
organizational
structure
for
this
new
department
and
to
develop
a
strategic
plan
around
how
we
invest
our
resources.
Excuse
me,
the
proposed
strategic
plan
will
set
forth
development
strategies
that
will
address
barriers
to
improving
neighborhood
and
residential
health,
creating
additional
housing
opportunities
for
households
of
various
income
levels
and
improve
market
stability,
working
with
City
Council
leadership
from
the
existing
departments
and
through
a
collaborative
process
of
engaging
diverse
constituent
groups.
C
We
seek
to
produce
a
blueprint
that
defines
core
values
assesses
existing
conditions
applies
best
practices,
evaluates
current
programs
and
Garner's
public
and
philanthropic
support
for
new
initiatives,
as
required
by
the
Charter
and
council.
The
planning
process
has
an
aggressive
timeline.
We
look
to
ensure
that
the
information
we
get
from
the
strategic
planning
process
helps
inform
how
we
plan
for
expanding
housing
and
planning
resources
in
the
fiscally
you're
18
budget.
C
While
we
engage
in
this
planning
process,
our
offices
will
continue
to
engage,
improve
and
expand
services
to
our
residents
in
the
development
community
in
fiscal
year.
17.
Our
development
services
team
will
continue
to
increase
public
awareness
of
our
services
and
respond
to
development
entities
seeking
coordinated
reviews
by
city
departments.
We
anticipate
facilitating
public
approvals
of
six
to
twelve
large-scale
projects,
conducting
25
developer
service
meetings
and
participating
in
for
public
education
sessions,
two
associations,
including
the
Building
Industry
Association,
and
the
Philadelphia
Association
of
Community
Development
Corporation's.
C
Although
not
all
projects
require
development
meetings,
we
anticipate
that
a
developer's
checklist
can
help
smaller
and
newer
development
entities
navigate
through
public
approvals.
Our
goal
is
to
produce
an
updated
checklist
guidebook
before
the
end
of
the
calendar
year
last.
We
recognize
that
with
the
city
of
this
agent
size,
some
of
our
processes
are
antiquated
or
not
operational,
and
we
will
work
in
fiscal
year,
17
on
cross-department
initiatives
to
improve
government
efficiency
related
to
spurring
and
sustaining
development
in
the
5
2013
Philadelphia
launch
of
the
creation
of
the
land
bank.
C
Since
that
time,
it
has
achieved
numerous
milestones
that
improve
access
to
blighted
properties
for
redevelopment
purposes,
namely,
it
is
nearing
completion
of
an
effort
to
research
and
correct
the
legal
descriptions
of
more
than
6,000
deeds.
Approximately
1,800
properties
have
moved
or
moving
from
other
public
land
agencies
into
the
land
bank
inventory
and
another
500
properties
are
expected
to
do
so
by
the
end
of
fiscal
year.
16,
the
land
bank
is
also
starting
to
acquire
vacant
tax,
delinquent
properties
at
tax
foreclosure
sale.
C
We
anticipate
acquiring
60
to
70
parcels
through
tax
foreclosures
in
the
next
six
months.
While
we
note
our
accomplishments,
we
also
recognize
that
a
processing
of
expressions
of
interest
has
been
slow.
Our
goal
is
to
clear
the
current
black
log
by
July
1
2016
and
improve
the
business
processes
to
increase
response
times.
Lastly,
the
land
bank
has
added
more
features
to
its
website
regarding
Philadelphia's
real
estate
market
and
its
property
inventory,
and
will
continue
to
streamline
the
press
interest
submission
process
in
fiscal
year.
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D
And
other
members
of
City
Council
I'm
Melissa
long
deputy
director
of
the
Office
of
Housing
and
Community
Development
and
I'm
here
today
to
present
testimony
on
ohc
Dee's
proposed
general
fund
operating
budget
for
fiscal
year
2017
the
proposed
combined
operating
budget
under
the
Community
Development
Block
Grant
fund
grants,
revenue,
Housing,
Trust
Fund
will
be
presented
in
the
spring
or
early
June
to
the
Finance
Committee
and
its
hearing
on
the
consolidated
plan.
Ordinance.
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The
mission
of
the
office
of
Housing
and
Community
Development
is
to
strategically
align
housing
and
community
development
resources
and
programs
to
prevent
homelessness
by
keeping
people
in
their
homes,
increase,
affordable
housing
by
producing
new,
affordable
housing
units
strengthen
communities
by
eliminating
blight
and
promoting
neighborhood
planning
and
creating
jobs
by
attracting
and
retaining
businesses.
The
year
42
allocation
of
CDBG,
home
and
HOPWA
from
HUD
to
OHC
D
is
54
million
dollars.
D
These
resources
will
support
programs
consistent
with
the
city's
Housing
and
Community
Development
priorities
and
the
priorities
of
the
office
of
Planning
and
Development
to
serve
low
and
moderate
income,
individuals
and
families
to
revitalize
neighborhoods.
One
of
the
biggest
challenges
facing
the
city
remains
a
significant
reduction
of
more
than
45
million
dollars
in
federal
and
state
resources.
Over
the
last
14
years,
making
general
fund
support
critical
to
meeting
the
city's
priorities.
The
proposed
FY
2017
general
fund
budget
allocates
two
point:
eight
six,
five
million
to
the
office
of
Housing
and
Community
Development.
D
This
funding
includes
2.3
million
to
support
the
vacant,
land,
stabilization
and
maintenance
activities
of
the
Philadelphia
Landcare
program.
Three
hundred
and
forty
five
thousand
to
support
the
north
central
choice,
neighborhood
and
130,000
to
support
the
settlement,
grant
entangled
title
programs,
an
FY
2017,
a
total
of
two
point.
D
Three:
nine
million
will
support
the
Philadelphia
Landcare
program
through
the
Pennsylvania
Horticultural
Society
to
stabilize
and
maintain
nearly
nine
thousand
of
the
forty
thousand
vacant
lots
in
Philadelphia
this
award-winning
national
best
practice
model
creates
jobs,
raises
property,
values,
reduces
crime
and
promotes
new
development
and
FY
2016
PHS
launched
the
re-entry
initiative.
This
innovative
program
provides
citizens
returning
from
incarceration
with
marketable
skills
and
an
opportunity
to
work
for
landscape
services
contractors.
D
To
date,
the
total
of
27
returning
citizens
have
been
trained,
hired
and
supported
through
this
program
and
an
additional
2,000
lots
are
now
cleaned
and
maintained
as
green
community
assets.
In
addition,
a
total
of
30,000
and
FY
2017
will
support
average
grants
of
$1,100
per
household
for
low-income
homeowners
to
obtain
a
clear
title
to
their
home.
A
total
of
a
hundred
thousand
for
settlement
assistance.
Grants
of
up
to
five
hundred
per
household
will
assist
income
eligible
homebuyers
to
pay
for
closing
costs.
D
E
Good
morning,
I'm
Gary,
Jastrow
executive
director
of
the
city
planning
commission
and
joining
me
over
on
this
side
is
deputy
executive
director
Eleanor
Sharpe
happy
to
provide
testimony
on
the
City
Planning
Commission's
fiscal
2017
operating
budget.
The
mission
of
the
City
Planning
Commission
is
to
guide
the
overall
growth
and
development
of
the
city
through
sound
planning,
principles
and
policies.
E
The
Commission's
other
responsibilities
include
administering
the
zoning
code,
Civic
design
review
and
registered
community
organization
processes
and
operating
the
citizens,
planning
Institute
as
the
educational
training
and
civic
engagement
arm
of
the
City
Planning
Commission.
The
administration
of
the
Art
Commission
is
also
included
in
the
City
Planning
Commission's
budget.
E
Our
our
primary
efforts
for
fiscal
year
2017
revolve
around
three
programs:
the
physical,
the
Philadelphia
2035
comprehensive
plan
in
their
district
plans.
It's
the
first
citywide
comprehensive
plan
since
1960,
intended
to
a
lot
align
municipal,
private,
institutional
and
civic
resources
toward
common
physical
development
goals.
The
Commission
continues
to
institutionalize
the
city's
comprehensive
planning
process
so
that
it's
updated
and
renewed
in
a
continuance.
E
E
11
district
plans
have
been
adopted
since
12
2012
and
one
more
scheduled
for
adoption
in
June
by
this
time
next
year.
It's
anticipated
that
15
of
the
18
district
plans
will
have
been
completed
and
work
on
plans,
16
and
17
will
be
underway.
Our
second
major
program
is
the
zoning
remapping
program
coming
out
of
the
district
plans.
Our
zoning
recommendations,
two
types
of
zoning
recommendations
are
usually
proposed:
corrective
zoning
to
replace
obsolete
or
outdated
zoning
and
zoning
to
advance
the
plan
to
achieve
future
development
and
neighborhood
conservation
goals.
E
To
date,
recommendations
have
been
made
to
remap
8250
acres
of
land
about
one
and
every
five
acres
in
the
districts
with
adopted
plans
of
this
total
remapping
has
been
completed
and
is
in
place
for
2700
acres
about
33%,
another
900
acres
11%
are
in
the
legislative
process
and
we're
working
on
the
balance
of
about
4,600
acres
56%.
It's
a
very
labor-intensive
and
data
intensive
process
during
fiscal
2017.
E
The
Commission
expects
to
propose
an
additional
1,500
acres
of
land
for
remapping
and,
as
you
know,
the
City
Planning
Commission
staff
works
closely
with
City
Council
members
and
other
community
stakeholders
to
prepare
all
zoning
remapping
bills
and
then
our
third
major
program
is
the
citizens
planning
Institute.
The
CPI
was
created
in
2010
as
the
Commission's
education,
training
and
civic
engagement
arm.
The
CPI
helps
empower
Philadelphians
to
take
a
more
proactive
and
informed
role
in
shaping
the
future
of
their
city
through
a
better
understanding
of
planning,
zoning
and
the
development
process
each
spring
and
fall.
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A
What
have
you
been
able
to
do
so
far
to
allow
you
to
facilitate
change
and
put
in
place
a
structure
in
the
government
that
is
more
user-friendly,
I'd
like
to
say
not
only
for
elected
officials
but
particular
user
friendly
for
the
citizens,
and
then
I'd
like
to
ask
follow-up
that
by
asking
you
about
the
makeup
on
the
chart.
Think
of
all
the
colleagues
have
charts,
and
particularly
the
division
of
development
services,
which
is
one
that
we
kind
of
created
I
want
to
ask
you
about
in
the
interim.
A
C
The
the
Charter
change
doesn't
fully
take
effect
until
July
1st
2017,
which
would
be
essentially
fiscal
year
18.
So
we
have
a
year
to
sort
of
work
through
what
we
want
that
department
to
look
like
it.
Excuse
me
and
January
4th.
When
the
mayor
bee
was
inaugurated,
he
signed
an
executive
order
that
created
the
office
of
planning
and
development
and
allowed
us
to
implement
a
large
portion
of
the
charter,
but
not
everything.
C
So
what
we've
done
so
far
to
date
is
we
have
that
one
division,
that's
Planning
and
Zoning
that
incorporates
the
historic
Planning
Commission,
the
historic
Commission
and
the
Art
Commission,
and
in
fiscal
year
18
we'll
also
include
the
Zoning
Board
of
Adjustment.
The
Zoning
Board
has
not
moved
over
to
our
department
as
our
division
office.
Excuse
me,
I'm,
sorry,
our
office
as
of
yet
and
we
plan
to
take
the
year
to
figure
out
how
to
do
that.
That's
a
little
bit
tricky.
C
Unlike
the
other
entities
contained
in
this
office,
the
Zoning
Board
of
adjustment
does
not
have
any
direct
report
staff.
They
share
staff
with
two
other
boards,
so
we
need
to
figure
out
how
to
kind
of
figure
that
out
in
the
budget
and
also
staffing
wise.
But
we
also
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
see
if
we
want
to
put
in
place
different
processes
around
how
the
Zoning
Board
is
handled
in
the
I'm
going
to
sort
of
skip
over
development
services,
because
that
was
a
big
chunk
of
your
question
and
then
in
Housing
and
Community
Development.
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C
That's
now
the
division
of
Housing
and
Community
Development,
but
for
this
year
we
really
have
them
functioning
almost
exactly
the
same
way,
and
that
was
really
in
conjunction
with
the
Finance
and
Budget
Office.
To
say
it's
gonna
take
us
a
little
while
to
figure
out
how
to
meld
all
this
into
one
department
and
one
budget
Authority,
and
so
we
frankly
kind
of
kicked
it
down
the
road
for
another
year.
And
then
we
have
the
Redevelopment
Authority
Philadelphia,
Housing,
Development
Corporation
and
the
lam
banquet.
C
C
But
now
they're
much
more
closely
tied
to
also
the
development
functions
within
the
city,
including
planning
and
the
housing
functions,
and
we're
opening
that
up
to
two
more
of
our
CDC
and
nonprofit
developers,
where
they
access
that
service
when
they
knew
about
it,
but
we're
being
much
more
proactive
about
making
that
linkage
and
then
also
making
sure
that
more
folks
know
about
the
opportunities
and
the
assistance
that's
provided
through
development
services.
I
like
to
add.
C
In
addition,
what
we're
doing
is
in
the
next
I
want
to
say
week
or
so
the
historic
Commission
will
be
moving
over
to
our
floor
of
the
offices
as
well,
and
we're
doing
our
best
to
kind
of
get
people
as
consolidated
as
one
in
one
place
as
we
can.
We
have
a
dream
that
someday
the
housing
agencies
will
be
in
close
proximity
to
us
as
well,
but
right
now
we're
turning
everybody's
fitbit's
by
going
back
and
forth
between
the
various
play.
Is
that
we're
located
yeah.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
process
of
me.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
our
ability
to
make
our
service
advantageous
to
the
citizens
is
what
it's
all
about.
So
that's
why
we
are
City
Council's
all
in
one
building
I
know.
Some
of
us
would
like
to
be
another
buildings,
but
we're
good
here,
quick
follow-up
to
that.
A
Your
testimony
wasn't
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about.
We
didn't
put
it
in
the
chart
ordinates.
When
you
talk
about
developer
services.
There
was
some
concerns
raised
and
actually
in
some
quarters,
some
criticism
about
us
coming
off
as
he
developer
to
developer
friendly
of
an
ordinance
and
what
about
the
citizens,
because
the
simple
reality
is
in
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
throughout
the
city.
A
It
can
create
a
problem
for
the
residents
in
those
communities,
not
gonna
test
it
at
you
know,
being
in
an
area
despite
of
stuff
going
on,
I
actually
talked
to
people
out
in
the
street,
and
there
was
some
thought
that
the
person
could
actually
call
one
number
as
a
relates
a
construction
related
activity
as
opposed
to
the
person
we
actually
did.
It
was
a
channel
10
story
about
this,
whereas
the
street
gets
trends
and
the
average
citizen
has
no
clue.
A
Is
it
water,
sewer,
PGW,
cable,
whatever
it
shouldn't
be,
the
responsibility
of
the
citizen
have
to
figure
out
who's
responsible
for
the
these
trench
in
the
street.
That's
been
sitting
there
for
three
months
and
every
time
a
car
goes
over
his
bang-bang
and
we
were
talking
about
and
I
actually
promised
some
people
that
they
would
actually
be
a
number
where
the
citizens
can
call
to
find
out.
What's
going
on
in
my
neighborhood,
why
are
they
digging
them
excavating?
This
Biggs
a
lot
across
the
street
is
they're
gonna,
be
developing.
C
And
we're
in
the
process
of
going
around
a
meeting
with
different
departments,
streets,
department,
L&I,
the
water
department
and
sort
of
thing
here
we
are
we're
the
new
office
of
Planning
and
Development.
This
is
what
we
you
know.
These
are
kind
of
the
resources
and
things
that
we
have
available
on
finding
out
what
they
have
available
and
how
we
can
work
together
and
I.
C
Think
as
part
of
that,
we
can
look
into
figuring
out
how
we
could
collect
the
data
about
different
things
that
are
going
on
in
the
city
and
then
house
that
in
one
location
and
figure
out
a
means
to
make
that
easily
accessible.
Because
I
have
to
be
honest
with
you
right
now,
I
think
if
you
called
somebody
one
person
in
a
city
that
one
person
would
probably
not
know
every
single
thing
that
was
going
on
within
the
city,
because
just
as
you
mentioned,
there's
a
lot
going
on
in
a
lot
of
different
areas.
C
But
we
can
certainly
work
with
our
sister
departments
and
figure
out
how
to
collect
that
data
and
then
figure
out
a
mechanism
to
make
that
available
in
a
way.
That
makes
sense
to
the
public
so
that
people
know
what's
going
on
I.
Think
that's
really.
One
of
the
things
that
we're
striving
for
is
to
is
to
do
a
better
job
of
communicating
with
the
communities
in
a
big
part
of
that
we
feel
is
listening
to
what
they
have
to
say
and
then
getting
our
information
out
there
in
as
accessible
manner
as
possible.
So.
A
A
H
Then
councilman
Rizzo
got
me
this
pipeline
and
he
sided.
He
said
because
you're
in
line
behind
about
ten
other
district
council
people,
but
we
have
development
so
reason,
I
brought
it
out
today
and
I'm
gonna
get
my
colleagues
freshman
college
decided
is
that
I
am.
Finally
president
Clark
closing
well
we're.
Finally,
the
one
project
I
showed
you
was
the
win
ballroom.
H
We
just
now
demolished
it
and
are
building
the
new
one
eight
years
later,
eight
years
later,
so
my
hope
is
that
this
new
office
allows
things
to
go
through
the
pipeline,
a
little
quicker,
and
so
the
planning
and
catification
of
all
of
these
departments
is
I'm
optimistic
about.
But
let
me
ask
a
couple
of
specific
questions,
particularly
first
about
planning.
There
is
a
migration
of
sorts
from
low
income,
moderate
income
people
around
the
city.
H
My
question
is:
where
are
they
going
and
if,
if
if
it
impacts
us
in
redistricting
couple
of
years
back,
it's
going
to
impact
us
in
a
different
way
again
and
so
I
need
to
know
where
we
are,
and
it
doesn't
have
to
answer
now,
but
by
the
time
you
come
back
know
where
these
folks
are
going.
So,
if
they're
moving
from
North
Philly
to
Northeast
or
to
Southwest,
we
need
to
know
that
so
that
we
can
meet
them
they're
almost
and
accommodate
them
with
the
type
and
price
points
that
they
need.
H
C
Think,
based
on
that,
we
sort
of
made
a
decision
of
let's
catch
our
breath
and
before
we
try
to
do
you
know
1500
or
2000
of
these.
Let's
make
sure
that
we
have
the
program
that
we
want
to
have
and
get
it
set
up
in
in
the
appropriate
way.
So
we've
been,
we've
spent
the
last
couple
months
doing
exactly
that
working
very
closely
with
the
council
president
staff,
and
we
believe
we've
come
up
with
a
mechanism
that
helps
us
better,
assess
kind
of
along
the
lines
of
your.
C
We
have
to
now
sell
it
to
people
at
a
higher
level
of
median,
and
so
we've
really
taken
our
time
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
the
right
analysis
and
that
we're
working
with
the
communities
and
that
we're
working
with
the
various
council
people
and
we're
about
ready
to
roll
out
our
first
RFP
in
the
Francisville
community
to
put
out
packages
of
properties
there
and
we're
gonna.
Hopefully,
that
will
be
successful
in
this
program
that
we've
designed
and
we
will
then
be
able
to
come
and
move
to
different
districts
with
I.
C
H
H
C
So
I
think
you're
referring
to
the
conservatorship
program.
That
has
been
something
that
the
state
came
up
with
and
has
been
in
effect
for
a
few
years,
and
a
few
people
have
taken
advantage
of
it.
We
haven't
seen
anything
done
its
scale
and
part
of
that
is.
We
need
to
work
through
there,
some
some
title
and
financing
issues
that
come
associated
with
a
conservatorship
program
and
so
I
think
we'll
take
a
look
at
that
and
again
kind
of
like
we
did
with
workforce
housing.
Let's
learn
how
to
walk
before.
C
We
learn
how
to
run
and
see
if
there's
a
way
that
we
may
need
to
tweak
that
program
in
order
to
scale
it
up
and
have
it
really
be
as
effective
as
what
it
was
envisioned
to
be.
So,
yes,
we
are
going
to
consider.
We
are
at
the
point
where
we're
going
to
try
to
consider
as
many
possible
things
as
we
can
think
of
the.
H
So,
in
light
of
the
fact
that
we're
not
going
to
line
up
with
more
CDP
CDBG
dollars
from
heaven,
we
have
to
use
innovative
ways
to
approach
the
market
in
non-traditional
ways,
so
that
received.
What
did
you
call?
It
concern
a
conservatorship
program
and
the
workforce
housing
program
are
two
at
least
viable
options
that
we
should
consider,
there's
probably
the
Devils
in
the
details,
but
guess
what
I
want
to
know
by
way
of
investment.
But
we
have
our
public
dollars,
which
one
is
the
better
way
or
both
of
them
to
go.
Thank
You.
Mr.
H
Thank
you
very
much
council
president
I
just
wanted
to
just
give
my
congratulations
for
the
the
awards
that
you
have
lawn
and
I
did
enjoy
our
conversation
when
you
stopped
by
my
office
and
I.
Think
this
is
a
wonderful
process.
I'm
not
I'm,
not
sure,
but
the
way
I
understand
it.
This
is
a
kind
of
a
new
process
where
you
are
kind
of
con
at
the
hub
of
the
wheel,
reaching
out
to
all
the
different
departments.
H
Sometimes
our
cities,
like
a
octopus,
with
tentacles
doing
so
many
different
things,
but
not
necessarily
knowing
what's
coming
next,
who
next
door
is
doing
things,
but
your
office
will
kind
of
coordinated,
it
should
be
more
efficient.
We
should
not
be
doing
things
and
going
back
and
redoing
things
with
with
this
planning.
So
I
really
appreciate
the
planning
I.
Think
it's
a
wonderful
thing
for
our
city.
Thank
you.
B
So
I'm
saying
to
myself
from
an
economic
standpoint:
each
year
we
spent
20
million
the
potential
revenue
for
the
city.
Is
2
million
it'll
take
us
10
years
to
make
a
one
year's
cost
of
maintenance.
So
in
that
light,
hey
I
heard
you
mentioned
some
numbers,
but
roughly
today,
how
many
properties
are
in
the
land
bank?
How
many
properties
can
we
get
into
the
land
bank
and
how
do
we
get
this
land
bank
properties
salt
much
quicker
than
what
we're
doing
right
so.
C
I
think
those
are
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
so
right
now
we
have
about
1800
properties
in
the
land
bank.
We
anticipate
an
additional
500
coming
in
by
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year,
but
I
think
you
know
all
testament
to
the
land
bank
staff.
They've
really
spent
the
last
couple
years,
trying
to
get
the
lambing
up,
organized
and
and
structured,
and
now
we're
really
moving
in
more
to
that
operational
phase
of
the
lam
bank,
and
so
we're
really
trying
to
we're
really
look
at
taking
a
look
at
now.
C
So
working
through
that
was
really
important.
Work
that
the
land
bank
was
doing.
But
now
we
have
to
really
focus
on
getting
the
land
in
and
getting
the
land
back
out,
and
that
is
we're
really
taking
a
hard
look
at
that
and
figuring
out
how
we
need
to
structure
things
going
forward
so
that
it's
focused
on
operations
as
opposed
to
organization.
How.
B
C
B
And
if
it's
costing
us
20
million
a
year,
if
you
and
I
were
in
business
and
it
cost
us
20
million
a
year
to
get
2
million
dollars
of
revenue,
we
would
sell
all
those
properties
right
now,
because
it's
a
the
economic
deal
for
us
terrible
after
five
years,
it's
gonna
cost
us
a
hundred
million
dollars
to
maintain
properties
that
produced
two
million
a
year.
How
do
we
speed
up
this
process
because
it's
worth
the
investment
to
unload
these
properties
and
get
them
into
the
hands
of
taxpayers
and
get
them
off
our
books?
Well,.
C
A
larger
development
parcel
I
think
we
want
to
take
a
look
at
that
as
well
and
make
sure
that
we
want
to,
let
me
just
say
we're
not
content
with
the
2
million
or
20
million.
We
want
to
see
really
where
we
can
get
to
and
then
I
think
also
to
councilman
John's
point.
We
also
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
taking
care
of
all
the
various
residents
in
our
communities,
and
so
we
are
looking
at
which
ones
of
those
should
be.
C
You
really
need
to
be
workforce,
housing
and
and/or,
affordable
housing
or
community
gardens
I.
You
know
we're
really
tests
with
not
just
maximizing
economic
initial,
short-term
economic
gain,
we're
really
charged
with
long
term
economic
gain,
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
work
to
do
in
our
communities
around
that
and
to
make
sure
that
we're
taking
care
of
the
existing
residents
as
opposed
to
bringing
new
growth
and
new
development
into
the
city.
They're.
C
We
believe
so
it's
been
a
little
bit
different,
it's
difficult
to
get
an
accurate
account,
but
we
think
it's
in
that
vicinity
so
potentially,
but
I.
Think
honestly
that
the
revenue
finance
department
would
probably
hope
that
some
of
those
folks
would
show
up
and
start
paying
their
taxes
and
they
may
want
to
develop
them
on
their
own,
as
opposed
to
necessarily
go
on
the
land
bank
route
and.
C
C
And
so
we're
taking
a
look
at
those
we're
gonna,
take
a
look
at
those
and
figure
out
where
they
were
are
what's
around
them,
so
one
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
with
this
strategic
plan
that
we're
talking
about
doing
and
this
tour
that
we've
been
doing
to
other
departments
that
kind
of
councilmen
or
referred
to
is
we're
going
to
these
other
departments
and
saying
you
know
we
have
great
planning
resources.
We
have
great
mapping
resources.
C
We
have
great
I,
really
a
lot
of
experience
with
how
to
implement
things
if
any
of
those
those
services
are
a
benefit
to
you,
please
let
us
know
we
want
to
offer
them
up
and
in
return
we'd,
like
all
your
data
and
what
we
hope
to
do
is
develop
a
plan
that
shows
where
are
we
investing
in
housing?
Where
do
we
have
properties
available
where
we
invest
in
clean
commercial
corridors?
Where
are
we
putting
parks,
recs
and
library
money?
Where
are
we
investing
in
small
businesses
or
capital
programs,
and
does
that
make
sense?
C
Is
that
a
way
that
we
can
go
after
larger
philanthropic
dollars,
or
is
there
a
larger
way
we
can
go
after
capital
dollars
to
bring
that
investment
in
we're
really
working
on
being
the
planning
and
implementation
arm
for
the
for
the
city,
as
well
as
for
the
residents
of
the
city,
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
good
economic
bang
for
our
buck,
but
also
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
it
in
a
way
that
that
meets
needs
across
the
spectrum,
as
opposed
to
just
picking
one
target?
What.
B
C
C
A
This
real
quick
follow
up
on
that
they're.
Obviously,
philosophical
issues
about
you
know,
wait
and
bang
does
its
work,
and
you
know
interviews
about
gentrification
all
those
other
things
come
up,
but
there
are
two
operational
issues.
That
least
from
our
perspective
needs
to
be
addressed,
and
one
is
obviously
the
staffing
issue.
I
know
you
guys
work
on
it,
but
there's
always
a
challenge.
A
When
you
talk
about
staffing
with
different
workforce
and
the
other
thing
is
the
law
department,
we
found
that
to
be
the
most
significant
impediment,
our
inability
to
get
on
the
same
page
with
law,
because
ultimately,
law
has
to
start
the
sheriff
sale
process
in
terms
of
how
they'll
probably
get
picked
up.
So
I
would
like
to
see,
as
you
move
towards
official
cabinet
level
position,
that
you
encourage
people
to
put
a
little
more
emphasis
on
getting
law
to
certify
those
properties
in
a
timely
way
and
I
understand.
A
D
C
To
say:
listen,
this
is
this
is
kind
of
what
makes
it
we
understand
your
perspective.
This
is
our
perspective
and
understand
we're
not
always
at
odds
and
we're
trying
to
work
very
cooperatively,
the
cooperatively,
with
these
various
departments,
to
say
we're
all
in
this
together.
We
all
want
to
be
good
teammates,
let's
figure
out
how
we
do
this.
You
know
that
makes
the
most
sense.
Thank.
I
Thank
you
just
on
that.
You
know
one
of
the
issues
we
were
very
deliberate
in
creating
the
strategic
plan
to
create
those
buckets
of
opportunities,
and
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
is.
Is
the
council
president
Clark
mentioned
and
and
councilman
Dom?
Is
you
know
if
revenue
has
to
approve
every
single
one
of
this,
then
we're
not
you
know,
that's
gonna
hold
us
up
so
really
want
to
get
the
administration
to
agreed.
I
Do
they
or
do
they
not
agree
with
the
buckets
of
opportunities,
create
that
criteria,
because
that
not
the
committee
that
I
call
them
I
call
them
the
NASA
committee,
because
nobody
knows
who
they
are?
Who
look
at
these?
You
know
they
do
the
checkoff
who've
never
been
to
third
in
Indiana,
but
and
tell
me
yes
or
no
about
what
I'm
doing
at
third
in
Indiana
we
need
a
better
system.
Otherwise
there
has
to
be
a
commitment
from
revenue.
I
They
have
to
be
out
of
the
picture
around
this
and
released
politically
because
I
know
they
need
to
collect
otherwise
we're
gonna
be
stuck
on
a
property
to
property
bases,
and
that
you
know,
are
we
committed
to
the
silo
program?
Yes
or
no,
we
have
2,000
of
them
for
qualifying
taxpaying
residents.
Are
we
committed
those?
That's
low-hanging
fruit?
So
what's
the
time
frame
for
us
to
move
that?
Because
those
are
thousands
of
properties
right
so.
C
I
C
And
that
well
trust
me,
you
really
probably
don't
want
to
be
there
like
dating
back
to
councilman
Dom's
point
I
mean
if
that's
gonna,
be
the
process.
It'll
be
a
hundred
years,
so,
like
I,
said
in
response
to
that,
we
are
really
diligently
trying
to
get
a
hold
of
data
just
for
exactly
that
side
yards.
Are
they
let's?
Let's
parse
that
data
and
say
we
can
agree
that
these
thousand
Lots
need
to
be
sawed
yards
right
now,
rather
than
sitting
down
and
saying
what
about
this
lot?
C
Well,
what
about
this
last
one
and
we're
trying
to
through
initial
data
analysis
figure
out
whether
those
little
hanging
fruit
and
agree
on
that,
and
we
know
that
there's
going
to
be
a
part
of
these
properties
that
is
gonna,
be
a
hard
sell
and
we
are
gonna,
have
to
sit
down
and
really
bargain
over
them,
but
that
can't
be
10,000
properties
right.
So,
let's,
let's
figure
out
what
are
those
low-hanging
fruit
and
get
them
out
the
door,
while
we
figure
out
what
we're
gonna
do
with
those
remaining
whatever
number
that
is.
I
C
We're
committed
to
side
lots,
we're
committed
to
executing
the
strategic
plan
and
in
our
next
ratiza
plan,
frankly
we're
interested
in
identifying
goals
and
making
sure
that
we
hit
target
goals,
as
opposed
to
just
saying.
This
is
kind
of
the
idea
of
things,
but
I'll
be
honest
with
you.
We
got
some
work
to
do
to
get
there
and
we
are.
I
Right,
so
let
me
quickly
go
through
this
happy
to
see
more
general
operating
fund
support
to
offset
some
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
wanted
to
ask
around
the
decision.
First
of
all,
I,
like
oh,
a
CD,
to
provide
to
the
chair
of
listing
of
all
of
the
OECD
funded
positions,
regardless
of
where
they
are
parked.
We
haven't
looked
at
that
list
for
a
whole
a
long
time
and
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
that.
I
What
else?
What
else
comfortable?
Also
president
help
me
here?
Why
not
put
oh
the
commercial
fun
mixed
development
commercial
fund
that
councilman
Jones
created
several
years
ago,
where
we
have
a
backlog
because
putting
us
that
money
on
the
ground
is
complicated,
meeting
CDBG
requirements?
I
mean
we've
talked
about
this
for
years,
it's
sort
of
like
if
we
can
get
some
of
this
money,
that's
free!
So
here
you
have
a
pot
of
money.
Why
not
put
it
where
we
had
a
challenging.
D
I
All
right
and
so
yeah
I'd
be
interested
in
looking
at
that
so
again,
so
that
we
can
really
kind
of
parcel
out
again
very
happy
to
see
the
administration
for
general
operating
money
here.
You
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
putting
it
where
it's
been
the
hardest
to
kind
of
get
it
on
the
ground
yeah.
So
that's
an
area
real
quickly
is
from
my
time
rings
up,
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
basic
systems.
I
see
that
there
is
a
reduction
of.
I
D
I
D
I
Kind
of
lump
it
all
of
yeah,
particularly
interested
in
and
like
our
nat
funding
and
some
of
the
other
places
where
we've
seen
reductions,
can
you
delineate
for
us
where
what
choices
you're
making
around?
What
are
you
reducing
down,
I'm
very
concerned
about
things
like
CLS
and
other
things
where
we've
seen
a
reduction?
Yes,.
D
And
I
can
I'll
definitely
be
able
to
delineate
the
necks
and
the
in
the
housing
counseling
agencies.
One
thing
that
we're
facing
is
that
the
housing
counseling
services
fall
under
what
HUD
calls
public
service
cap
and
grantees
can
only
allocate
15
percent
of
their
annual
CDBG
entitlement
and
program
income.
So
as
that,
as
our
funding
keeps
getting
reduced,
we
have
another
238,000
reduction
in
CDBG
funding
again
this
year
and
as
if
program
income
goes
down
that
cap.
What
we're
allowed
under
that
cap
shrinks.
D
I
F
I
J
You,
council
president
and
Andrew
:,
thank
you
very
much
for
being
here
for
visiting
our
offices.
I
think
it's
important
I,
like
what
I'm,
seeing
your
in
your
leadership
very,
very,
very
much
and
congratulations
on
your
department's
awards.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
on
the
record
as
well.
People
know
about
this.
J
My
question
has
to
do
with
history,
the
Historical,
Commission
and
I'm,
a
great
believer
that
history
and
economic
development
through
tourism
tie
together
and
I
know
the
the
department
doesn't
use
up
a
lot
of
funds,
but,
on
the
other
hand,
the
work
they
do
is
critical.
For
example,
I
know
at
least
one
councilman
one
of
my
colleagues,
maybe
others
that
know
this.
But
you
know
the
oldest
continuously
used
bridge
in
all
of
North.
America
is
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia.
People
come
here
from
around
the
world
to
study
them.
J
It's
important.
My
question
to
you
is:
how
critical
is
the
historical
commission's
digitizing
of
their
files?
I
have
a
few
questions
of
all
tie
in
and
please
answer
at
the
end.
I
worry
that
it
is
a
small
amount,
but
how
long
should
we
wait
to
have
the
program
go
forward?
Could
we
lose
some
of
our
history
by
not
preserving
these
files
and
I?
Don't
want
future
generations
to
say
hey?
Why
didn't
they
spend?
J
J
It's
a
series
of
questions
based
really
on
economic
development
and
history.
How
critical
is
it
for
the
Historical
Commission
that
digitized
their
files
I
worry
that
a
small
amount,
but
how
long
it
is
a
small
amount
in
the
scope
of
things.
But
how
long
should
we
wait
to
do
this?
Could
we
lose
some
of
our
history
by
not
preserving
these
files
and
I'm
concerned
about
future
generations?
K
Our
our
concern
are,
they
are
momentary.
Concern
with
those
records
is
that
they've
they've
grown
so
large,
physically
that
it's
difficult
to
store
them
and,
as
we
move
from
City
Hall
over
to
1515
Arch
Street
were
keenly
aware
of
the
constraints
that
will
face
in
moving
those
records
and
you're
absolutely
right
that
a
catastrophic
event,
a
fire
or
some
other
event
could
destroy
records
that
are
our
to
the
Historical
Commission
into
Philadelphians.
Priceless.
K
It
is
not
currently
in
the
proposed
budget.
The
proposed
budget
does
not
fund
the
digitated
digitization
project
that
the
Historical
Commission
has
proposed
the
the
cost
to
do
that
varies
depending
on
the
extent
of
the
digitization,
but
it
is
in
the
range
of
one
hundred
and
fifty
to
two
hundred
and
twenty-five
thousand
dollars.
L
You,
mr.
president,
and
welcome
good
morning
I
know,
look,
there's
always
talk
every
year
coming
in
about
ten
year
tax
abatement,
how
that's
progestin,
whether
it's
something
we
should
expand,
something
that
should
be
and
phased
in
or
phased
out
and
I
know
where
we
have
a
bill
coming
up
now
within
a
twenty
year
of
bateman
option
for
affordable
housing
and
when
we
have
those
options
or
subsidies
for
developers,
we
were
also
look
at
it
for
affordable
housing.
The
ideas
have
been
floated
out
there
for
development
fees,
to
maybe
add
money
to
the
housing
trust
fund.
L
C
C
Given
that
we're
getting
less
and
less
money
from
the
federal
government
and
state
government
and
not
other
sort
of
traditional
sources,
so
we'd
be
very
interested
in
looking
at
any
of
those
types
of
things
and
doing
an
analysis
of
you
know:
balancing
economic
growth
with
with
which,
with
what
is
needed
for
affordable
housing,
but
I,
think
we
are
very
much
aware
that
that
affordable
housing
is
needed
to
produce
economic
growth
as
well.
So
we're
very
interested
in
working
and
and
looking
at
various
ideas
about
how
to
grow.
The
Housing
Trust
Fund.
L
Of
the
subsidies
or
the
advantages
of
the
abatement
of
things
like
that,
maybe
we
could
work
with
those
developers
that
are
coming
in
here
and
and
have
some
sort
of
fee
associated
with
that.
That
would
then
therefore
go
into
the
housing
trust
fund
to
help
promote
the
affordable
housing.
So
I
think
that's
an
option.
That
is,
you
know
a
possibility.
L
Also,
as
we
mentioned
about
the
land
bank
and
the
selling
of
properties.
I'm
very
big,
advocate
selling
properties.
We
did
an
auction
last
summer,
but
I
also
think
you
know
we
should
make
sure
we
don't
sell
them
in
a
way
that
other
people
are
out
there.
Land,
banking
and
holding
onto
them
and
I.
Think
in
a
developer's
agreement
is
something
that's
necessary
when
we
sell
our
properties
and
then
making
sure
that
we
just
don't
have
other
people
out
there.
L
We
know
we
don't
do
a
good
job
with
them
and
I,
don't
think
we
need
other
people
out
there
holding
onto
them
and
not
doing
a
good
job
with
them.
Also,
but
wasn't
part
of
the
land
bank
also
supposed
to
be
able
to
access
privately
owned
properties
and
foreclosed
will
be
able
to
foreclose
on
them.
Could
you
is
that
something
that
is
going
to
happen
right.
C
Our
you
know,
private
ones
that
happen
to
be
tax
delinquent,
and
how
can
we
assemble
those
so
again
we're
looking
at
that.
We
have
our
first
test
case
of
that
acquisition
tool
coming
up
in
in
May
to
acquire
the
few
properties
in
brewery
town
to
see
how
that
works.
So
we're
again
we're
in
the
process
of
doing
a
little
pilot
to
make
sure
we
know
how
it
works,
that
we
get
all
the
kinks
out.
C
Then
I
think
we're
going
to
look
at
again
tied
into
the
strategic
planning,
we're
doing
how
we
can
strategically
identify
additional
properties.
We
can.
We
can
go
after
that,
hopefully
turn
that
two
million
dollars
that
councilman
Tom
was
referring
to
into
a
larger
amount
of
dollars
because
we're
combining
it
for
a
larger
redevelopment
parcel
or
we
can
expand
opportunities
for
workforce
housing
and
affordable
housing
because
we're
acquiring
these
projects
and
properties
in
a
strategic
means,
because.
C
It's
the
cost
in
how
you
qualify
for
tax
credits
through
the
Pennsylvania
Housing,
Finance
Agency.
You
know
they're
and
they're,
not
that
big,
a
fans
of
scattered
site
it's
hard
to
manage
a
scattered
site
deal
it's
more
expensive,
I!
Think,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
if
we
can
combine
parcels
and
and
get
development
more
at
a
scale
that
there's
a
there's
a
lot
of
benefits
today,.
L
I
know
some
things
we
have
run
into
problems
with
with
the
conservatorship
is
sometimes
you
know,
there's
back
taxes,
interest
in
penalties
associated.
We
have
to
work
through
revenue
case-by-case
on
each
of
those
that
takes
a
really
long
time.
Is
that
the
same
process?
That's
going
to
happen
now
on
your
test
model
with
the
privately
owned
properties
in
the
land
bank,
when
they
owe
a
lot
of
back
taxes,
and/or
interest
in
penalties
right.
C
So
so
the
land
bank
has
some
ability
to
kind
of
clear
those
liens
in
a
way
that
conservatorship
doesn't
but
again
I.
Honestly,
we
don't
know
what
all
the
issues
are,
which
is
why
we're
going
through
this
test
case
so
that
hopefully
some
of
those
will
be
great
if
nothing
came
up,
but
I
don't
think
for
that
now
you
were
optimistic,
so
we're
hoping
that
some
of
these
issues
come
up.
C
L
So
then,
so
you
still
have
to
go
through
that.
Alright,
we'll
come
back
on
on
the
part
of
the
2035
plan
as
we're
going
through
and
remapping,
and
this
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia.
We
have
done
that
in
certain
parts
of
the
city
already
and
actively
doing
it.
It's
a
long
process.
It
takes
time
it's
a
lot
of
involvement
with
the
community.
L
L
L
55,
foot,
high,
different
loading,
garages
and
I
think
we
need
to
come
up
with
a
way
that
if
we
do
allow
a
variance
for
residential
use
when
an
industrial
property,
they
then
have
to
go
to
the
closest
residential
zone,
the
area
and
abide
by
those
guidelines,
and
we
have
to
put
on
some
protection
because
what
happens
is
once
they
get
that
they're
building
these
single-family
homes
that
have
no
correlation
to
the
surrounding
community.
You
know
and
they
take
away
2
o'clock
and
walk
the
street
for
the
front-loading
garages
and
then
we
have
no
recourse.
G
Got
a
question
about
the
cap
as
the
Planning
Commission,
where
the
vision
of
Planning
and
Zoning
prepares
for
the
capital
budget.
How
is
how
does
that
work,
and
how
does
that
prioritize
in
our
capital
program
submitted
by
submitted
by
the
mayor
in
the
in
the
office
of
capital
budget,
and
does
it
take
in
consideration?
G
E
Of
course,
the
capital,
the
capital
program
and
budget
establishes
a
plan
and
an
appropriation
for
the
spending
of
public
resources
on
on
city-owned
property.
So
most
of
the
capital
facilities
that
you'll
see
in
the
program
and
budget
are
things
like
parks,
recreation,
centers,
libraries,
police
and
fire
stations.
Things
of
that
nature,
not
necessarily
developments
that
are
developed
privately.
E
The
way
the
process
works
is
that
the
Commission
and
works
very
closely
with
the
office
of
with
the
finance
department,
office
of
budget
and
program,
evaluation
and
other
city
operating
departments
beginning
in
late
summer,
early
fall
to
begin
to
put
out
a
call
for
capital
capital
projects,
typically
in
November
December.
All
of
those
individual
departmentally
requests
are
reviewed
and
evaluated
and
then,
in
early
in
the
early
part
of
the
year,
the
Commission
itself
actually
votes
to
recommend
a
capital
program
and
budget
to
the
mayor.
G
That's
put
together,
you
know,
recommendations
for
the
capital
budget
and
you
know
capital
budget
is
pretty
large
and
and
has
a
backlog.
Where
does
the
priority
and
is?
Is
the
priority
some
of
the
things
that
we're
discussing
now
again
I
want
to
repeat,
you
know:
2,000
houses
or
you
know,
2,000,
affordable
housing,
but
you
know
possibly
pre-k
and
Community.
Schools
land
bank
is
all
that
recommended
in
a
priority
in
order
of
priority,
or
is
it
just
recommended
to
to
be?
You
know
as
a
recommendation
for
the
capital
budget,
each.
E
So,
for
example,
one
thing
one
thing
that
that
you
approved
for
funding
last
year
was
the
use
of
some
capital
program
funds
for
an
evaluation
of
public
safety
facilities
throughout
the
city,
that
that
project
is
being
managed
by
the
department
of
public
property
and
it's
just
beginning,
I-
think
an
RFP
is
out
on
the
street
now
to
do
that.
Evaluation.
That
study
will
bring
back
a
whole
series
of
recommend
eight
recommendations,
short
term
medium
term,
long
term
recommendations
for
how
we
can
more
most
effectively
invest
our
capital
funds
in
those
public
safety
facilities.
G
C
As
I
mentioned
before,
we
are
out
as
a
department
kind
of
we
spent,
let's
say
the
first
month
or
two
figuring
out
what
resources
we
had
within
our
department
and
now
we're
going
around
and
revealing
those
if
you
will
or
explaining
those
resources
to
other
entities
in
the
city
and
so
I
think
a
couple
ways
that
we
will
likely
to
be
tied
into
Community,
Schools
and
pre-k
is
is,
if
there's
an
investment
may
in
a
community
school.
What
kind
of
other
investments
are
already
going
on
in
that
neighborhood?
C
Are
we
leveraging
the
other
investments
that
the
city
is
making?
For
example?
Is
there
affordable
housing
there?
Are
we
working
on
a
commercial
corridor?
Are
we
making
other
capital
investments
in
our
in
our
parks
or
libraries,
or
our
police
and
fire
stations
there,
and
then
also?
We
are
tying
in
data
we've
gotten
from
the
reinvestment
fund,
the
market
value
analysis
and
finding
out
what's
really
going
on
with
the
markets
around
there
and
tying
it
into
the
community
engagement
work
that
the
Planning
Commission
is
doing
so
we're
going
to
take
this.
C
That
planning
kind
of
holistic
look
at
at
community
school
and
pre-k
investment,
and
then
we're
also
going
to
add
on
top
are
now
implementation
functions
that
we're
tying
in
to
say.
You
know
this
is
what's
going
to
be
needed,
implementation
wise
in
order
to
to
put
these
facilities
in
this
school
or
in
order
to
put
a
pre-k
facility
into
this
development.
So
those
are
the
two
major
resources
were
actually
kind
of
three
major
resources:
we're
bringing
is
sort
of
some
overall
planning,
our
ability
to
really
map
and
analyze
data.
G
And
let
me
just
follow
up
to
this
to
this
question.
When
you
talk
about
consolidating
services
and
collating
co-locating
services
like
community
schools
as
a
model,
is
the
reuse
of
vacant
facilities
being
considered?
And
if
it's
a
reuse,
are
we
creating
vacant
buildings
elsewhere,
because
we're
relocated
right.
C
G
C
And
I,
so
I
think
we
have
to
keep
an
eye
on
that
and
I
really
think
is
again
part
of
the
strategic
planning
process
that
we're
gonna
undergo
is
to
analyze.
You
know
what
are
the
factors
that
are
resulting
in
a
community
having
limited
market
demand
and
are
there
things
that
we
can
affect
in
that
community?
That
may
change
the
scenario
for
them:
okay,
good.
A
F
Thank
You,
mr.
president
and
good
morning
to
each
of
you
and
I
think
you've
been
off
to
a
great
start
and
ELISA
looking
forward
to
talking
with
you,
because
we
will
Melissa
be
talking
a
whole
whole
lot.
Let
me
start
with
the
issue
that
is
of
grave
importance
to
me
and
I've.
Had
these
conversations
with
some
of
my
colleagues
issue
of
affordable
housing,
extremely
important
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
but
when
you
look
at
some
council
districts
that
are
landlocked
like
the
ninth,
the
issue
of
preservation
is
is
at
the
top
of
the
list.
F
You
know
when
we
would
talk
about
demolition
when
I
was
a
staffer
in
this
in
this
office
in
the
Logan
area,
we
would
talk
about
sort
of
the
sawtooth
effect
you
had
to
stable
properties
and
then
right
in
the
middle
of
to
stable
property.
She
had
a
property
that
needed
to
be
demolished,
well
we're
seeing
just
the
opposite
effect
now
in
neighborhoods
that
you
immediately
will
look
at
and
think
are
sort
of
solid
and
stabilized,
but
they
need
assistance
with
preservation
from
a
basic
pane
up
a
fix
up.
F
The
repair
of
steps
tell
me
when
we
look
at
all
all
of
the
data.
You
know
that
that
suggests
that
affordable
housing
is
needed.
Is
there
the
same
drive
and/or
a
commitment
to
home
preservation
and
if
so,
what
are
some
of
the
action
plans
that
we
see
ourselves
working
to
enact
over
the
next
year
right.
C
So
home
preservation
is
important,
almost
anywhere
but
I.
Think
really
in
in
Philadelphia.
There's
a
there's,
a
real
strong
need
for
this.
You
know
we're
an
older
city.
We
have
a
large
row
house
community
which
actually
isn't
a
bad
unit
type
for
affordable
housing.
It's
actually
a
pretty
efficient
unit
type,
but
we've
got
a
huge
percent
of
our
rural
houses
that
have
been
built.
C
They
show
up
in
a
person's
house
if
their
house
does
not
qualify
or
they're
over
limit.
You
know
they're
on
the
front
lines
and
they
have
to
say
no,
and
that
is
just
a
really
horrendous
position
to
find
yourself
in
and
in
spite
of
being
in
that
position,
they
continue
to
come
in
every
day
and
do
their
job.
So
I
think
that
needs
to
be
recognized.
C
That
being
said
again,
we're
not
content
to
just
come
and
say
we're
not
getting
as
many
state
funds
as
we
used
to
get
we're
not
getting
as
many
federal
funds,
so
in
particular,
Kathy
Calif
I
know.
The
deputy
director
is
really
going
out
and
utilizing
her
foundation
relationships
and
figuring
out
how
we
can
get
the
philanthropic
community
more
involved
and
how
we
can
take
the
dollars.
We
get
and
leverage
other
types
of
resources
and
really
going
out
and
telling
the
Phyllis
Philadelphia
story
in
a
compelling
way
to
say.
C
Not
only
does
it
affect
you
know:
property
values
around
there,
but
if
you
don't
have
a
place
to
live
you're
not
doing
as
well
in
school,
if
you're,
not
in
a
maintained
home,
you
know
you're,
subject
to
more
health
issues
and
how
we
can
kind
of
tie
all
these
community
welfare
and
well-being
issues
to
how
important
it
is
to
have
somebody
in
an
inequality
home.
So.
F
We're
really
working
on
that.
Let
me
let
me
just
sort
of
add
up
for
the
for
the
record
here
and
I.
Think
you,
you
really
sort
of
hit
a
nerve
when,
when
you
talked
about
the
staff
and
going
out
there
going
out
to
conduct
an
assessment,
the
needs
based
assessment
on
the
property,
and
then
you
learn
that
the
home
owner
is
50%.
F
F
Our
X
that
we
keep
those
constituencies-
and
that's
not
just
in
the
ninth
I-
can
think
about
my
colleagues
who
represent
other
districts
and
we
all
have
those
kind
of
pockets,
and
it's
almost
as,
if
they're
being
penalized,
we're
not
able
to
get
resources.
You
know
again
because
they
make
a
nickel
quarter
or
$0.50
above
what
the
what
the
guidelines
are.
So
I
just
ask
that
we
take
that
into
consideration
and.
M
Thank
you
very
much.
I'm
sorry,
I
was
meeting
with
another
department
who
hasn't
visit
us
yet
miss
this
important
discussion.
I
want
to
ask.
Is
there
a
specific
time
when
you
work
with
Zoning
Historical
Commission,
all
these
commissions,
when
people
appeal
and
I
mean
I
hear
that
some
groups
have
a
year,
they
can
hold
up
zoning
or
they
can
hold
up
a
process
for
years.
C
So
again,
zoning
is
under
the
Department
of
licenses
and
inspection,
so
I
think
it
it
depends.
So
you
can
I
think
the
process
to
get
to
the
Zoning
Board
is
something
that
that
we're
looking
at
and
making
sure
that
that
that
is
being
done
in
an
efficient
way
and
it's
my
understanding
that
the
new
zoning
board
that's
in
place
is
working
through
these
cases
quick
more
quickly
than
had
been
in
the
in
the
past.
C
But
that
being
said,
you
know
when
somebody
is
approved
for
a
variance
in
somebody
who
feels
that
they're
affected
by
that
files,
an
appeal
that
really
goes
through
the
court
system
and
and
unfortunately
the
city
doesn't
have
a
whole
lot
of
investment.
I
mean
investment
involvement
in
that
once
it's
it's
into
that
court
system,
but
I
can
say
that
the
process
from
when
you
know
the
developer
comes
in
and
first
shows
us
a
project
to
the
time
when,
if
there,
if
need
be,
they
need
to
go
to
the
Zoning
Board
of
Adjustment.
C
C
You
know
that
we're
hearing
from
the
community
that
what
we're
hearing
from
Council
that
we're
hearing
by
the
various
parties
that
are
affected
by
that
development
to
make
sure
it's
getting
through
the
process
in
an
efficient
way,
but
that
we're
also
taking
our
time
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
considering
all
the
various
perspectives
and
how
it
applies
within
our
our
codes
and
our
plans.
Now.
E
M
C
M
M
K
K
The
the
delays
occur
first
with
the
Board
of
license
and
inspection
review.
A
city
appeals
agency
that
hears
appeal
cases
from
various
and
sundry
boards
and
commissions
and
departments
that
that
board
is,
as
its
name
would
imply,
under
the
auspices
of
the
department
of
licenses
and
inspections,
and
then
appeals
from
that
board
to
Court
of
Common,
Pleas
and
ultimately
Commonwealth
Court.
So
the
the
historical
Commission
itself
is
making
its
decisions
very
quickly.
It's
when
those
that
decisions
are
appealed
that
the
appeal
process
can
extend
out
months
and
even
years.
A
A
Just
generally,
you
know
it's
been
tried.
I
tried
it
some
years
ago,
couldn't
quite
get
there
woof
respects
that
planning
in
your
earlier
testimony.
There
was
a
reference
to
the
racial
demographic
and
the
various
departments
and
planning
was
not
even
close
to
reflecting
the
population
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia
question.
1A
is
what
he.
Why
do
you
think
that
is
and
question?
A
1B
is
what,
if
what,
if
any
steps
will
be
taken
to
change
that,
and
also
in
the
last
administration,
when
there
was
a
zoning
code
change
and
the
part
of
that
that
did
one
thing
that
kind
of
didn't
agree
with
actually
related
to
inclusion
area
housing
that
gave
away
all
of
the
incentives
that
we
would
have
given
individuals
if
they
did
inclusionary
housing
for
free
was
never
understood
that,
but
mr.
Greenberger
at
the
time
decided
that
that's
what
he
wanted
to
do.
But
the
author
was
parted.
E
Well,
with
regard
to
your
first
question:
we're
a
Civil,
Service
Agency,
so
we're
kind
of
captive
to
the
the
civil
service
process
and
I
think
the
demographics
of
the
staff
kind
of
reflect
the
nature,
the
nature
of
students
who
are
coming
out
of
planning
schools.
We
we
have,
over
the
past
several
years,
been
able
to
hire
a
number
of
new
staffers,
as
positions
have
become
vacant.
E
A
In
your
recruitment,
sometimes
there's
you
may
want
to
go
a
little
further
than
that.
So
Chaney
Lincoln
schools,
where
there's
a
high
population
of
african-american,
Latino
and
other
minorities
is,
are
there
conversations
with
those
particular
schools
in
terms
of
encouraging
those
opportunities
where
ultimately
I'm.
E
E
A
E
In
order
to
in
order
to
become
a
city
planner,
you
don't
necessarily
need
a
planning
degree,
there's
a
variety
of
different
kind
of
degrees
that
that
would
qualify
to
take
an
exam
geography,
some
of
the
social
sciences
and
so
forth.
So
we
can
certainly
reach
out
to
some
of
those
other
schools.
Can
you.
A
B
E
A
E
Right
with
any
affordable
and
I
think
we
I
think.
We
believe
that,
in
order
to
be
competitive,
the
city
has
to
offer
a
variety
of
different
kinds
of
housing
types
and
in
neighborhoods
to
be
competitive,
not
only
in
our
region,
but
you
know
across
the
United
States
and
maybe
even
internationally.
So.
A
If
we
have
40,000
vacant
lots
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia
I,
don't
get
a
sense.
That
density
is
an
issue.
I
mean
we
have
areas
to
build.
So
why
don't
we
keep
encouraging
people
to
build
on
top
of
houses
on
top
of
houses
on
top
of
neighborhoods,
while
in
the
earlier
reference
to
councilman
John's
question
about
people
that
are
leaving
the
city
from
perimeter,
communities
I,
he
our
last
redistricting.
We
found
that
it
was
a
very
significant
exodus
of
individuals
living
in
the
northwest
and
west.
A
E
E
A
What
I'm
saying
that
policy
drives
decisions?
Sometimes,
if,
if
you
allow
okay,
if
you
say
that
you
can
build-
and
this
goes
to
this
whole
tax
abatement
issue-
also,
it's
okay
for
you
and
we're
going
to
encourage
you
and
we're
gonna,
give
you
a
sentence
to
continue
to
build
in
Center
City
in
this
closed
perimeter,
then
that's
what
people
are
going
to
do
right,
there's
like
no
incentive
to
go
out
in
the
neighborhoods
and
policy
has
to
encourage
that.
E
A
E
A
I
wanted
environment
because
you
gave
it
because
mr.
Greenberger
gave
away
all
of
those
without
requiring
that
to
get
the
density
and
that's
the
problem.
If
you
have
put
those-
and
that's
not
your
fault-
don't
take
them.
Don't
get
me
wrong
if
you
had
withheld
all
of
those
density
credits
and
all
the
other
things
the
parking
requirement,
then
developers
would
have
figured
out
a
way
to
have
real
opportunities
for
affordability
in
their
development.
A
But
that's
not
the
case
now
so
I'm
just
you
know
fundamentally
I'm
just
concerned
about
the
density
and
I'm
really
concerned
about
the
parking,
which
is
a
real
issue.
Well,
ya
know:
everybody
is
not
going
to
ride
a
bike
right
everybody
not
when
we
don't
probably
fancy.
This
is
Philadelphia
people
drive
to
the
corner
store.
That's.
E
What
we
do
all
right-
yes,
yes,
absolutely
I!
Think
I.
Think,
though
there
that
the
point
I
was
trying
to
make
is
that
there
are.
There
are
an
increasing
number
of
options
for
people
to
live
in
the
city
and
not
necessarily
need
to
own
a
car.
You
know
Bike
Share
is
one
car
sharing
is
a
real
opportunity
that
I
think
in
general.
E
A
E
There
have
been
other
there
have
been
other
proposals
in
the
past
to
do
kind
of
community
community
parking
where
off
street
off
street
parking
using
vacant
lots
we're
in
a
a
few
years
ago
there
was
one
in
Manayunk
I,
don't
think
it
ever
ever
went
anywhere.
There
was
a
number
of
years
ago,
an
old
city,
I,
think
a
parking
condominium
that
would
allow
people
to
to
park
in
a
parking
structure
in
or
to
purchase
a
parking
space
in
a
parking
structure
so
that
they
wouldn't
necessarily
be
on.
E
You
know
on
the
site
where
they
live,
those
kind
of
communal
parking
facilities,
I,
don't
think,
have
really
taken
off
and
I.
Think
part
of
that
is
due
to
the
expectation
of
people
that
the
city
would
provide
those
parking
facilities
for
for
neighborhood
residents.
I,
don't
think
that's
necessarily
true
and
I.
Don't
think.
That's
necessarily
something
that
we
can.
We
can
do
is
certainly
an
idea
worth
investigating.
H
H
It
takes
away
curved
space.
We
have
another
problem
with
a
nurse
coming
home
from
a
second
shift
parking
her
car
at
two,
an
a
2
a.m.
and
walking
3
blocks
to
get
to
her
house,
not
to
mention
seniors
and
others.
So
we
have
to
have
a
serious
study
dialogue
about
not
just
how
in
how
we
design
parking
and
factor
it
in,
like
you
said
mr.
president,
but
also
diagonal
parking
on
streets,
where
we
have
that
kind
of
density
that
it's.
H
H
Because
you
know
there's
a
liability
of
someone
being
on
their
property
and
but
but
we
have
to
really
look
at
this
because
there
are
some
neighborhoods
and
they're,
not
just
wealthy
neighborhoods
that
are
overgrown
and
over
developed
to
the
point
where
parking
is
a
problem.
So
we
in
your
planning
in
our
zoning.
We
need
to
kind
of
consider
those
things,
because
too
much
of
a
good
thing
becomes
a
bad
thing,
and
so
that
has
to
be
a
part
of
your
planning.
A
Yeah
thank
thank
councilman.
I
just
want
to
follow
up
cuz
that
gonna
talk
to
you
about
this,
because
we
seem
to
be
at
odds
in
terms
of
how
much
of
this
we
allow
or
that
even
approach.
I
represent
fish
town,
Temple,
University,
Northern,
Liberties,
right,
Fairmount,
Spring
Garden
in
my
council
district,
that's
all
I
hear
is
Darrell.
This
is
out
of
control.
A
You
can't
park,
hey
and
I
got
to
respond
in
it
and
you,
as
a
planning
department,
I'm
talking
to
you
and
if
the
response
to
the
constituents
as
well,
you
know
go
down
and
rent
one
Spike's
that
the
bike-share
people
look
at
me
like
I'm,
crazy
I
mean
so
as
we
allowed
us
to
continue
to
flourish.
That
this
thing
some
point
is
a
responsibility
of
the
planning
department
to
rethink
this
policy
about
allowing
I.
Would
it
used
to
be
one
for
one
at
one
point,
once
the
parking
space
off
street
parking
space
per
unit?
E
It's
a
I
mean
a
bit
of
it
is,
is
culture,
change
and
I'm,
not
saying
that
people
have
to
you
know
should
be
should
be
required
to
give
up
their
cars.
Obviously
I'm
not
saying
that,
but
you
know,
I
think
I
think
it's
a
balancing
act
between
maintaining
maintaining
a
good
fabric
of
the
city.
If
it's
certain.
A
Accommodating
there
you
have
a
philosophy
and
you
can
have
some
theoretical
fruits.
The
reality
is
that
these
people
that
are
moving
in
these
neighborhoods
have
cars
temple
university
said.
Did
none
of
these
students
are
gonna,
have
cars
you
go
up
there
and
ask
the
people
who
live
in
those
neighborhoods
that
those
students
have
cars.
This
is
not
reality.
Based
on
what
you're
saying
I
mean
you
could
talk
about
people
changing
the
culture,
but
you
know
there
are
a
bunch
of
developments
that
happen
in
my
district.
They
built
a
development.
C
Will
take
under
advisement
and
will
and
will
look
at
because
I
do
think
it's
a
different
answer,
depending
on
where
you
are.
I
mean
we
do
have
some
folks
that
have
built
these
very
high-density
buildings
with
a
lot
of
parking
and
then
their
parking
since
empty.
Then
we
have
other
people,
who've
done
the
similar
development
and
they
don't
have
enough
parking,
and
then
we've
got
some
neighborhoods
where
you
know
we
allowed
those
front
loaded
garages
and
unfortunately,
street
parking
went
away,
and
that
was
a
problem
in
their
neighborhoods.
C
C
I
know
recently
there
was
a
planning
study
that
came
out
around
even
just
Center
City
parking
garages
and
how,
where
the
use
of
those
part
parking
garages
is
actually
migrating
more
to
the
neighborhoods,
because
there's
not
parking
available
in
neighborhoods,
so
I
think
we
do
need
to
take
a
closer
look
at
that
we'd
be
more
than
happy
to
to
work
on
that
with
you
guys.
Okay,.
C
A
C
I
know
that
we
try
to
work
on
this
in
the
past
and
we
I
think
we've
got
to
still
figure
out
where
that
that
kind
of
sweet
spot
is
where
we
can
include.
You
know,
have
a
discussion
about
inclusionary
inclusionary
housing
in
a
way
that
doesn't
necessarily
have
a
negative
impact
on
some
of
the
development
that's
taking
place,
but
think
a
little
bit
more
creatively
about
something.
C
C
M
M
So
if
they
go
in
your
area
and
they
say
well,
you
know
we
don't
need
this
parking
and
your
people
disagree
with
it
nine
times
out
of
ten,
when
you
come
to
mind
they're
going
to
disagree,
what
they
do,
because
the
parking
is
one
of
the
worst
issues
we
have
in
our
entire
city,
I,
don't
care
where
you
go!
I
do
not
know
why
we
change
the
laws
to
not
require
parking.
You
know
it's
just
ridiculous
and
in
the
final
analysis,
that
it's
gonna
hurt
development,
not
healthy.
M
You
know
sure
some
kids
are
University,
City
and
I
know
I
have
all
of
that
they're
happy
to
park,
but
that's
not
that
everybody,
even
in
that
community,
because
they
don't
live
in
every
house
on
the
block.
It's
it's
just
a
very
big
issue
and
thinking
out
of
the
box
does
not
mean
we
should
let
parking
go
big.
E
A
G
Just
trying
to
add
a
little
humor
so
think
you
know
the
conversation
around
density
is
is
important.
It's
something
that
we
need
to.
You
know
to
continue
to
have
as
we
move
forward,
because
you
know
there's
there's
a
lot
of
ordinances
and
you
know
public
hearing
conversations
and
discussions,
or
you
know
around
planning
and
zoning,
and
you
know
things
move
fast
here
in
the
city
and
how
it
all
fits
together.
G
I
think
is,
is
important
to
you,
guys
and
I
know
you're
you're,
aware
that
you
know
my
colleague,
councilman
Swilley
brought
up
industrial
land,
and
you
know
my
question
in
regards
to
you
know
having
a
property
that
needs
to
be
rezone
residential.
You
know,
because
the
neighborhood,
maybe
you
know,
thriving
and
Ward
density,
is,
is
attractive
and
more
commerce
or
and
disposable
income.
You
know
my
question
is
industrial
land
preservation.
C
So
what
you're
referring
to
is
an
ordinance
that
says,
if
you're
looking
to
to
get
a
variance
of
rezone
a
parcel.
That's
currently
industrial
and
you
want
to
put
a
different
type
of
use
other
than
industrial.
You
that
the
developer
has
to
notify
the
commerce
department
and
a
couple
things
around
that
one
is
in
addition
to
the
coordination
of
the
various
agencies
that
you
see
here.
C
We
also
have
coordination
meetings
with
the
Philadelphia
Industrial
Development
Corporation
and
the
Commerce
Department
to
make
sure
that
that
we're
all
on
the
same
page
and
that
that
that
notification
is
happening
because
oftentimes
some
will
come
in
and
say:
oh
yeah
I
talked
to
the
Commerce
Department
and
then
we'll
go
the
Commerce
Department.
Did
someone
come
in
and
talk
to
you
and
maybe.
E
C
C
Department
didn't
actually
have
any
contact
information,
so
work,
so
we're
taking
steps
such
as
that
to
make
sure
that
that
that
that
communication
happens,
but
then
also
we're
taking
steps
with
planning
and
the
implementation
to
look
at
and
making
sure
that
we're
not
just
approving
a
one-off
residential
that
what
is
going
on
in
that
area.
What
are
the
opportunities
to
maybe
support
industrial
commercial
development
in
a
in
a
more
proactive
way
and
and
to
sort
of
make
sure
that,
just
with
one
development
we're
not
sort
of
removing
any
of
our
other
opportunities
breaking.
G
At
it
and
I
hope
that
is
a
priority
when
it
comes
to
industrial
and
preservation,
as
we
were,
you
know
going
through
that
process
and
somebody
somebody
remapping
and
rezoning
of
these
industrial
buildings
to
residential
and
some
of
them
you
know,
are
hugely
successful.
Others
when
you
have
a
sole,
independent
residential
use
and
it's
in
an
area
to
other
businesses
that
have
been
their
first
I,
don't
think
it's
the
response.
The
owners
and
responsibility
should
be
on
the
developer,
who's
looking
to
reuse
a
another
parcel
and
not
the
existing
industrial
uses
or
business
use.
G
That's
in
a
neighborhood,
because
what
happens
is
you
have
a
new
development,
all
right
that
that's
you
know
put
up
for
for
reuse
because
it's
been
a
vacant
building
for
for
some
time
and
we
want
to
change
it
into
residential.
We
want
to
put
sixty
units
in
there
120
units
or
whatever
the
number
is,
and
you
have
the
density
issue
and
the
density
issue
not
only
becomes
a
burden
on
the
residents
themselves,
but
it
becomes
a
burden
on
the
existing
buildings
and
business
industrial
use
that
is
adjacent
or
nearby.
C
G
Absolutely
I
mean,
if
that's
actually
happening,
then
that's
the
the
approach
that
we're
gonna
have
collaboratively
with
the
new
offices.
I
think
that
that'll
work
out
as
long
as
you
know
the
district
council
members
or
or
where
of
what's
happened
in
your
district
last
question
here:
development
services
1.
What
determines
a
project
to
be
put
in
front
of
the
development
service
team?
Who
are
they
hell's
that
selected
and
how
often
today
me
right
and
is
there
a
backlog?
Ok,.
C
You
that
was
just
and
again
it's
not
a
super
formal.
You
know
regulated
process,
but
it
was
sort
of
this
idea
that
if
you
had
50,000
square
feet
and
I
think
there
was
some
other
threshold
that
that
you
sort
of
gained
entree
to
the
development
services
group.
So
the
staff
we
have
John
monlik
is
our.
Is
our
deputy
director
of
that
and
then
there's
two
other
staff,
people
that
work
in
that
division,
Meredith
and
Kevin
Hart,
but
really
Development,
Services
Committee
is
only
brought
together
on
an
as-needed
basis.
C
So
if
there's
a
project
of
scale
that
is
coming
into
the
city
as
being
proposed,
that
development
services
committee
will
be
brought
together
based
on
the
anticipated
approval
process
that
that
that
that
development
will
likely
need
to
go
through.
So
that
would
include
you
know:
planning
streets,
department,
lni
pico,
maybe
the
school
district,
whoever
is
kind
of
going
to
be
affected
by
that
will
come
in
together
in
a
room.
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
we're
looking
at
is-
and
we
said
they
deal
about
with
it.
C
F
Thank
You
mr.
chair
I'm,
too,
pretty
quick
questions.
The
first
one
is
in
regards
to
applicants
who
are
applying
for
variances
and
special
exceptions.
They
are
provided
with,
like
a
a
list
of
addresses
that
they
need
to
deliver
notices
to
in
regards
to
a
zoning
appeal.
Is
that
correct?
Now
let
me
ask
you
explain
how
to
list
the
addresses
is
determined
and
I'm
looking
at
a
sample,
one
that
was
used
for
a
meeting
that
that
we
had.
F
E
What
you're
referring
to
is
the
RCO
notification
process,
and
that
is
that
is
part
of
the
zoning
code
and
the
code,
so
that
those
that
list
of
addresses
that
you're
referring
to
is
basically
done
by
our
by
our
staff,
were
notified
by
L&I
of
a
notification
requirement.
We,
then
our
staff,
City,
Planning
Commission,
and
our
GIS
staff
then
takes
a
look
at
the
the
project
site
and
using
the
guidelines
contained
in
the
zoning
code
develops.
That
list
of
addresses.
So
I
believe
that
it
is
all
of
the
facing
properties
on
that
on
the
block
right.
F
So
so
it
says
every
every
property
on
the
same
block
as
the
applicants,
property,
every
property
on
the
the
block
face
across
the
street
and
every
property
that
is
within
200
feet
and
I.
Guess:
sort
of
I
mentioned
this
to
you
today
to
say
one
we've
heard
from
more
than
one
our
CEO
and
nine
our
CEO
community-based
organizations,
particularly
when
they
find
out
about
an
issue
at
the
last
minute
because
they
weren't
on
the
list
of
agencies
or
within
the
certain
circumference
to
be
notified.
That
that
is
a
challenge
and
so
I'm
asking
us
to.
F
Let's
give
some
thought
to
that
process,
and
you
know
that's
what
every
Constitution
every
code
there's
something
we
can
make
called
amendments
to
it,
because
if
we
constantly
can
work
to
improve
it,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
brought
that
to
your
attention.
And
then
my
final
question
is
regarding
oacd
and
I
need
to
understand
what
rubric
is
it
that
you
use
to
identify
label
commercial
corridors
that
are
eligible
for
Community,
Development,
Block,
Grant
funding,
and
this
funding
is
used
for
SIF
and
sort
of
commercial
corridor
cleaning
grants.
F
Let
me
give
you
an
example:
you
can
travel
through
washington
lane
and
it's
only
one
block
about
15
stores.
Right.
It
is
eligible.
You
go
two
blocks
over
and
you
get
to
Vernon
Road,
which
is
near
the
Iman
Tabernacle
Baptist
Church.
It
is
not
eligible
for
funding
and
we're
looking
at
sort
of
at
the
same
subdivision,
because
they
are
part
of
the
same
zip
code
and
neighborhood.
So
explain
why
and
what
rubric
is
used
to
determine
eligibility.
D
Hud
defines
low
mod
eligible
census,
tracts
and
they're
very
strict
about
that
right.
While
we
look
at
an
area
and
its
entirety,
you
know
our
HUD
monitors
come
and
say:
oh,
oh,
you
know
these
two
tracts
or
if
an
address
falls
in
it
are
not
eligible.
So
it's
a
HUD
requirement
for
low
and
modest
racks.
So.
F
So
with
that
in
mind,
obviously
against
in
some
prior
to
being
elected
to
the
state
and
coming
to
this
body,
I
work
for
15
years
here,
and
this
has
been
the
same
for
a
very
long
time.
The
question
that
I've
never
asked
before
or
heard
a
response
to
is
with
her
having
such
stringent
sort
of
eligibility
requirements
as
it
relates
to
identifying
low
my
census
tracts.
C
Coincidentally,
on
Friday,
we
are
having
a
everybody,
get
to
know
your
meeting
with
HUD
to
start
to
lay
the
table
for
for
not
just
figuring
if
we
can
move
hard
off
the
dime,
but
again
seeing
if
there's
other
types
of
resources
that
we
can
leverage
saying,
listen
we're
putting
our
Block
Grant
dollars
into
this
block
of
your
commercial
corridor.
Unfortunately,
you
know
the
weird
census
track
line
is
right
here
and
it's
subdivides
your
commercial
quarter.
So
then
taking
those
dollars
that
we
get
from
the
from
the
government.
C
B
C
I
think
those
were
federal
so
that
the
way
the
Block
Grant
dollars
come
to
us
is
on
a
formula
basis.
So
there
had
been
kind
of
a
tradition
of
us
getting
less
dollars
every
year
because
we
were
losing
population
and
then
a
few
years
ago
you
know
we
were
able
to
sort
of
reverse
that
formula,
but
the
federal
at
the
federal
level
that
overall
pocket
has
been
diminishing
so
that
our
piece
of
that
person,
the
pie,
has
been
getting
smaller
and
smaller.
So
our
piece
of
the
pie
that
has
been
dwindling
and.
D
C
Are
we
able
to
reverse
that?
You
know
how
to
cut
as
a
federal,
very
large
federal
government
agency,
it's
it's
difficult
sort
of
like
moving
a
mountain.
That
doesn't
mean
that
we're
we're
not
going
to
try.
Some
of
the
things
that
we've
talked
about
is
maybe
even
working
with
our
sister
cities
that
may
have
a
large.
C
You
know
row
house,
contingent
of
housing
and
figuring
out
as
a
way
for
us
to
to
work
together
and
maybe
go
to
HUD
with
a
pilot
program
that
says,
if
we
we
need
something
to
treat
row,
houses
right,
that
isn't
necessarily
a
problem
that
maybe
Los
Angeles
has
or
San
Francisco.
Well
they
have
some
rural
houses,
but
they
seem
to
be
able
to
take
care
of
them.
C
But
this
is
a
problem
that
you
know
the
Baltimore
or
Cleveland
or
Cincinnati,
or
some
of
these
other
kind
of
places
are
experiencing
along
with
us,
and
is
there
a
way
for
us
to
come
up
with
a
pilot
program
that
then
we
can
make
an
economic
argument
about
why
it
would
make
sense
to
invest
in
in
a
program
like
that.
So
we
are.
C
We
are
looking
at
those
things
again
as
well
as
going
to
the
philanthropic
community,
particularly
the
national
foundations
and
figuring
out
other
things
that
we
can
do
and
fill
it
up
because,
as
we
heard
in
the
parking
discussion,
we've
got
one
of
just
about
everything
here.
So
we
are
an
excellent
City
for
test
cases
and
modeling.
B
C
D
Yes,
yes,
I
think
last
year
with
the
additional
funding
our
partners
at
the
horticultural
society
launched.
What
I
think
is.
You
know
the
pilot
program,
they've
hired
27
returning
citizens,
I
think
and
we're
able
to
add
another
2,000
watts
and
expanded
the
community
Landcare
groups.
Those
are
groups
that
are
working
within
the
community
and
providing
jobs
for
community
residents,
so
I
think.
Another
thing
that
sets
that
program
apart
is
that
they're
working
with
Philly
rise
and
the
Enterprise
Center
to
provide
ongoing
support
to
ensure
that
those
citizen
that
those
returning
citizens
stay
employed.
Okay,.
B
C
C
So
I
think
that
gets
back
to
the
discussion.
We've
been
having.
You
know,
someone
about
the
land
bank
that
but
then
also
doing
the
strategic
planning
to
determine
where
we
have
opportunities
to
either
create
a
preserve,
affordable
housing
where
we
have
opportunities
to
do
workforce
housing
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
choice
of
things
that
you
know
that
there's
a
spectrum
of
housing
choice
that
it
isn't
just
all
this
income
or
all
that
income
and-
and
that
takes
some
time
to
do
that
in
a
strategic
way.
So
oftentimes.
C
It
means
that
we're
not
you
know
putting
land
out
for
development
or
we're
not
developing
things
as
quickly
as
some
people
would
like
us
to
see.
But
that,
like
like
to
see
us,
do,
but
that's
because
we're
taking
our
time
to
make
sure
it's
being
done
in
a
strategic
way,
whether
we
are
encouraging
that
growth
in
new
investment,
but
we're
also
taking
our
time
to
protect
the
existing
residents
and
and
to
be
honest
with
you.
C
To
be
honest
with
you,
and
so
that's
why
we're
taking
a
strategic
look
at
where
we're
doing
our
investment
and
how
these
things
are
happening
and
I
think
this
idea
of
looking
closely
at
where
our
population
is
moving
and
in
getting
ahead
of
some
of
those
things
to
figure
out
how
we
can
proactively
do
development,
but
protecting
existing
residences
is
something
we're
very
interested
in
pursuing
in
and
figuring
out
over
over
time.
Definitely.
M
That's
very
important
because
something
some
neighborhoods
are
low-income
neighborhoods.
They
can't
afford
workforce
housing
and,
in
fact,
I
had
a
meeting
two
weeks
ago
with
a
developer
who
was
saying
he
wanted
to
do:
workforce,
housing
and
and
when
I
told
him
I
needed
low
and
moderate
income
housing
in
that
area
as
well.
He
said:
well,
we
don't
build
for
free,
we're,
not
volunteers.
We
need
to
make
money
as
well.
So
this
whole
issue
of
low
and
moderate
income,
housing
in
areas
and
the
whole
issue
of
gentrification.
M
Even
in
areas
I
mean
I,
have
the
promise
zone.
We've
got
man
to
us,
a
big
big
thing
in
today's
world,
but
I
have
to
make
sure
that
the
people
aren't
pushed
out
because
they
can't
afford
they
can't
afford
even
workforce
level
housing
they've
been
there,
their
parents
have
been
there,
their
grandparents
have
been
there,
their
great-grandparents
have
been
there,
and
certainly
they
expect
us
to
protect
them
as
we
move
forward
with
trying
to
develop
housing
and
as
well
as
the
retailing,
those
rights
right.
C
G
D
It's
a
there.
The
land
care
program
I
think
it's
important.
It's
a
community
development
program,
so
the
priorities
are
in
and
around
where
the
city
is
investing
in
areas
of
priority
and
those
selections
have
been
made
since
the
start
of
the
program
back
in
2008,
and
so
we
now
have
to
date
9,000
lots
that
are
being
maintained
throughout
those
covered
health.
How.
D
They,
what
what
made
that
happen
is
the
capacity
of
our
partners
at
the
horticultural
society
through
the
addition
of
funding
additional
Community,
Land
care
organizations
in
the
community
and
also
the
willingness
and
participation
of
the
contracted
landscapers.
There
was
a
commitment
and
an
enthusiasm
to
work
together
collaboratively
to
make
this
program
work
so
sort.
D
One
thing
to
note
too
I
think
is
that
you
know,
as
it
was
originally
conceived,
not
to
be
a
long
term.
You
know
the
idea
was
to
improve
the
lots
to
improve
the
quality
of
life
for
the
surrounding
residents
and
that
also
to
be
used
for
future
development.
So
I
think
since
the
beginning,
roughly
10
to
15
percent
of
the
Lots
that
are
cleaned
are
then
eventually
developed.
Ok,.
G
D
G
D
I
And
service,
as
temporary
chair
I,
just
want
to
follow
up
on
some
of
the
questions
that
councilman
Parker
raised
in
reference
to
the
challenges
that
she
described
in
reference
to
providing
resources
for
parts
of
the
ninth
counter
district,
which
we've
also
seen
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
especially
if,
during
my
tenure
working
with
Councilman
Pasco.
Can
you
provide
information
regarding
areas
in
the
city
where
CDBG
dollars
have
been
spent
that
have
been
used
for
the
prevention
or
elimination
of
sludd
slums
or
blight
under
the
HUD
guidelines
that
were
not
based
on
income
restrictions?.