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Description
Meeting of Council's Committee of the Whole to hear testimony on the following bills/resolutions: Bill Nos. 160170, 160171, and 160172 & Resolution No. 160180 regarding the FY2017 Capital Budget.
Testimony from:
Dr. Thomas A. Farley, Health Commissioner
http://phlcouncil.com/FY17-council-budget-center
B
E
Sure
the
mic
is
working
good
morning:
councilmember
Hina,
another
members
of
City
Council,
I'm,
Thomas,
Ferrari
Commissioner
of
the
Department
of
Public
Health
with
me
today
are
tara,
moore,
Deputy
Commissioner
for
finance
and
Jane
Baker,
the
chief
of
staff
for
the
department.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
the
Department
of
Public
Health's
operating
budget
for
fiscal
year.
Twenty
seventeen,
the
Department
of
Public
Health's
mission,
is
to
protect
and
promote
the
health
of
all
Philadelphians
and
provide
a
healthcare
safety
net
for
the
most
vulnerable.
We
carry
out
this
mission
in
many
ways.
E
The
Department
of
Health's
FY
17
general
fund
budget
request
is
123
million,
which
is
1.3
million
above
the
fy16
estimated
obligations.
This
increase
is
primarily
due
to
planned
salary
increases
and
shared
building
services
costs
for
the
New
South
Philadelphia
health
center.
We
have
a
very
diverse
staff
among
180
830
staff
in
full-time
positions
as
their
January
2016.
Over
75
percent
are
of
minority
race,
ethnicity,
including
sixty-two
percent,
who
are
african-american.
E
Nearly
forty
percent
of
the
department's
executive
staff
are
minority.
Women
account
for
71
percent
of
all
full-time
staff.
People
who
are
bi
or
multilingual
represent
eighteen
percent
of
all
full-time
staff,
with
Spanish
being
the
predominant
language,
but
our
staff
members
speak
a
total
of
forty-seven
languages.
E
Almost
forty
percent
of
the
department's
general
operating
fund
budget
supports
our
eight
neighborhood
health
centers.
These
clinics
provide
a
wide
range
of
services,
including
primary
care,
medical
services
for
adults
and
children,
obstetric
care,
family
planning,
services,
dental
services,
social
services,
behavioral
health
services,
x-rays
and
pharmacy.
Across
the
whole
system.
There
are
about
300,000
visits
a
year.
This
entire
network
is
now
using
an
electronic
health
record.
Putting
this
in
place
was
a
huge
effort
and
requiring
upgrades
to
our
IT
infrastructure,
a
stepwise
rollout
at
successive
centers
and
training
of
administrative,
nursing
and
physician
staff.
E
This
technology
will
help
you
have
our
providers
better
information
to
exit
about
their
patients
and
help
us
improve
the
cross.
The
entire
network,
we
hope
to
be
completing
the
interfaces
of
the
system
with
laboratories
and
pharmacies.
This
calendar
year
with
the
Affordable
Care
Act
to
Medicaid
expansion
of
Philadelphia
more
people
are
getting
health
insurance.
E
However,
our
health
centers
continue
to
see
many
patients
who
are
still
not
eligible
for
health
insurance,
such
as
undocumented
immigrants
and
new
residents,
who
are
temporarily
uninsured
or
new
residents
or
who
are
temporarily
uninsured,
such
as
people,
have
recently
become
unemployed
in
fy2015.
Forty-Nine
percent
of
the
visits
at
health
centers
were
for
people
who
are
uninsured
for
the
six
first
six
months
of
FY
16
that
fell
to
forty
two
percent.
While
we
will
never
turn
away
patients
without
health
insurance,
we
work
to
help
every
patient
who
is
eligible
for
health
insurance
become
enrolled.
E
We're
excited
to
have
just
open
a
new
health
care
center
to
facility
in
South
Philadelphia
just
last
week
as
part
of
a
partnership
with
the
Children's
Hospital
of
Philadelphia,
when
it's
complete
in
addition
to
the
clinic,
the
new
facility
will
have
a
recreation
center
and
a
library
as
part
of
the
joint
arrangement
with
chop.
The
city
is
responsible
for
annual
shared
services
fees,
which
appears
as
an
increase
in
contractual
funds
in
FY
17.
E
As
most
of
you
know,
health
center
number
10
in
Northeast
Philadelphia
is
busy.
This
area
of
the
city
has
a
growing
population
of
immigrants
and
few
other
neighborhood
health
centers.
The
patient
population
continues
to
grow.
In
the
first
quarter
of
16,
we
saw
nearly
a
thousand
new
patients
at
this
facility,
which
is
more
than
twice
the
number
of
new
patients
seen
at
other
health
centers.
Because
of
demand
waiting
times
for
new
patients
to
get
elective
appointments
are
too
long.
E
E
Smoking
rates
have
fallen
in
recent
years,
but
smoking
is
still
perhaps
the
biggest
single
killer
in
Philadelphia
responsible
for
an
estimated
2150
deaths
per
year.
As
of
the
last
survey
in
24,
late
2014
and
early
2015,
22
percent
of
adults
in
Philadelphia
smoked,
that's
compared
to
eighteen
percent
of
adults,
nationwide
and
less
than
fifteen
percent
of
some
other
big
cities.
We're
hopeful
that
the
two
dollar
per
pack
cigarette
tax
enacted
in
the
fall
2014
will
encourage
smokers
to
quit.
E
We
will
continue
to
help
smokers
quit
in
other
ways
and
work
with
retailers
to
enforce
the
law,
preventing
tobacco
sales
to
youth,
to
reduce
the
risk
of
foodborne
illness.
We
continue
to
inspect
restaurants,
retail
food
stores,
mobile
food,
vendors,
childcare,
centers
schools,
special
events
and
institutions
that
serve
food.
Our
goal
is
to
reach
all
these
foods
establishments
at
least
once
a
year
and
the
institutions,
because
they
serve
vulnerable
populations.
E
Four
times
a
year
in
fy2013,
our
average
inspection
interval
was
17
months
in
fy2015
that
approved
to
under
15
months,
and
we
hope
to
see
continued
improvements.
This
coming
year
response
to
public
interest.
We
are
now
posting
inspection
reports
on
the
internet
immediately.
We
hope
to
making
this
information
readily
accessible
will
provide
an
incentive
for
restaurants
to
follow
the
best
food
safety
practices.
E
Fine
layer
department
worked
hard
in
the
last
few
years
to
apply
for
accreditation
by
the
National
Public
Health
Accreditation
Board,
which
is
an
independent
non-governmental
agency.
This
involves
submitting
documentation
for
our
accomplishments
and
capacities
to
fulfill
approximately
300
criteria
and
undergo
a
thorough
site
visit
by
experts
appointed
by
the
board
I'm
pleased
to
say
that
earlier
this
year
we
were
granted
accreditation,
which
is
a
very
public
acknowledgment
of
the
quality
and
thoroughness
of
our
public
health
programs.
Going
forward,
this
accreditation
will
make
us
more
competitive
for
federal
grant
funding.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
Thank
You,
mr.
chairman,
just
quickly:
every
year
you
haven't,
since
you
have
been
here,
you
haven't
heard
me
say,
but
every
year
I'd
bring
up
health
center,
10
and
I
know.
You
talked
about
that
now.
You
say
the
renovations
are
scheduled
to
be
in
the
summer.
What
how
soon
do
you
think
it
would
be
where
those
renovations
will
actually
result
in
the
some
of
the
that
that
very
very
long
list
of
patients
waiting
would
be
cut
down?
Yeah.
E
Currently,
the
renovations
are
going
to
create
for
new
examination
rooms,
which
should
increase
our
throughput
is
going
to
take
some
number
of
months
before
those
renovations
are
complete,
so
it'll
happen
during
the
fiscal
year.
I
should
say,
though,
that
the
man
continues
to
increase
their
all
right,
and
so,
as
we
increase
throughput,
we
may
get
more
patients
coming
in.
So
that's
why
we're
also
looking
for
additional
space
that
the
facility
is
simply
too
small
for
us
to
handle
the
patient
load
in
this
large
area
that
doesn't
have
many
other
neighbor
nelson.
B
E
B
F
E
Know
the
Health
Department
has
many
different
programs
that
are
highly
technical
and
many
different
job
titles
as
result
of
that,
and
that
makes
filling
those
positions
long
process,
it's
it's
not
like
the
police
department,
where
we
can
hire
in
big
batches.
We
be
looking
for
one
air
pollution
engineer
and
the
process
is
simply
very
complicated.
I
can
only
say
that
we
are
working
with
I
as
new
here.
E
Looking
the
system
try
to
figure
out
how
we
streamline
the
system
and
if
there
are
things
that
the
council
can
do,
I
would
welcome
the
support
this
is
we
have
positions
that
we
want
to
fill?
We
have
work
that
needs
to
be
done.
We
have
people
who
want
positions
in
there,
so
we
would
like
to
to
streamline
the
process.
Okay,.
E
F
F
B
B
E
This
is
a
complicated
answer,
the
question
the
we
have
operated
nursing
home
by
contract
and
we
have
a
new
arrangement
with
the
state
where
the
city
put
up
additional
funds
which
enable
drawdown
of
more
Medicaid
funds.
So
there's
no
net
increase
expenditure
to
the
city
through
that
transfer,
but
that
doesn't
appearing
as
great
a
contractual
services
they're
less.
F
Question
the
soda
tax
proposal-
I-
haven't
heard
your
comments
on
this,
but
do
you
think
there's
any
I
mean
the
math
is
clear
that
from
one
sense
like
58
million
and
one
and
a
half
cents
is
77,
78
million
and
so
from
the
public
health
perspective.
If
the
tax
were
not
three
cents,
but
if
the
tax
were
one
or
one
and
a
half
cents,
how
would
you
feel
from
a
public
health
standpoint
because
the
incremental
monies
for
the
extra
tax,
or
not
that
much?
How
do
you
feel
about
that?
Yeah.
E
A
couple
think
we
are
very
enthusiastic
about
the
mayor's
entire
budget
proposal.
There
are
health
benefits
to
how
the
revenue
is
used
and
there's
also
health
benefits
of
the
tax
itself.
As
far
as
the
sugary
drinks,
there
are
major
risk
for
obesity
and
diabetes,
and
so
whatever
is
going
to
reduce
that
consumption,
the
most
is
what
we
are
supportive.
So
you
will
get
a
greater
reduction
in
consumption
with
a
three
cent
tax,
then
you
will
over
a
one
cent
tax
with
one
and
a
half
some
tax
and
that
I've.
E
Wouldn't
characterize
it
that
way,
there
have
been
some
good
studies
in
recent
years
where
people
are
randomized
too
sugary
drinks
and
diet,
drinks
and
people
on
diet
drinks,
don't
gain
weight
and
people
on
sugary
drinks
do
so
during
this
time
when
our
greatest
public
health
concern
in
that
area
is
obesity
and
diabetes.
Sugary
drinks
are
greater
public
health
risk
and.
E
Donuts
are
not
good
for
you.
I
wouldn't
recommend
donuts.
However,
the
concern
about
sugary
drinks
is
not
just
the
calories
and
not
just
the
sugar.
It's
clear
that
sugar
and
liquid
form
is
contributing
more
to
weight,
gain
and
obesity
than
sugar
in
solid
form.
It's
tends
to
be
added
to
the
diet
rather
than
replacing
other
forms
of
calories,
and
it
causes
a
blood
sugar
rise
which
causes
hormonal
changes.
So
people
around
the
country
who
are
particularly
concerned
about
obesity
have
focused
really
on
sugary
drinks,
not
just
sugar,
ok,.
B
A
A
Hi
for
me,
sugar,
so
and
just
kind
of
following
up
on
it.
That
was
a
bit
answer
to
ask
the
question,
but
since
we're
talking
about
sugar,
so
the
issue
with
respect
to
sugar-
and
you
reference
the
fact
that
kind
of
alluded
to
the
fact
that
and
I
shouldn't
say:
you're
fat
did
your
perspective
that
other
sugar
products,
such
as
Donuts
we're
not
as
bad
as
Souls,
am
I
characterizing
your
statement.
I.
E
A
A
A
E
When
you
say
where
you
mean
geographically,
where
what
neighborhoods
yeah
yeah,
we
can
come
up
with,
you
know
we
overall,
there
they're
sold
at
all
populations
their
purchase.
All
over
the
city
in
general,
sugary,
drink
consumption
is
higher
as
incomes
go
down,
so
you
would
expect
in
low-income
neighborhoods
to
have
what
I'm
sorry
in
general,
as
incomes
go
down.
Consumption
of
sugary
drinks
goes
up.
Okay,.
E
A
E
In
general,
unhealthy
foods
are
consumed
more
by
low-income
people
than
high-income
people.
They
have
fewer
healthy
options,
so
if
it
were
you're
looking
at
donuts
or
that
sort
of
thing
or
other
things,
I'd
characterizes
junk
food
you're
going
to
find
a
similar
pattern
is
where
its
distributed
across
the
city
burn.
Okay,.
A
A
When
I
look
at
cecil
beam,
wise
use
an
example
where
a
significant
number
of
stores
proliferated
across
those
commercial
quarters
were
there
lower-income
individuals
every
store,
you
see
the
hugs
and
the
capris
and
all
of
them
little
sugary
products,
and
that's
where
the
tax
will
be
raised.
Vs
Rittenhouse
Square,
which
also
represent
where
they
are
other
healthy
choices.
It's
a
you
concur.
E
There's
two
different
questions:
one
is:
how
is
consumption
now
distributed
across
neighborhoods
across
populations?
The
other
is
how
would
the
tax
end
up
being
distributed
and
that's
a
slightly
different
question,
because
one
thing
we
know
is
that
low-income
people
are
more
sensitive
to
price.
They
have
to
be
they're
going
to
be
looking
at
their.
You
know
their
pennies.
E
E
We
know,
for
example,
with
the
soda
tax
in
mexico.
People
who
are
low-income
were
more
likely
to
give
up
the
sugary
drinks
and
switch
to
bottled
water
than
high-income
people,
so
how
the
tax
will
end
up
being
distributed
across
income
groups
in
the
future
is
is
an
open
question
because,
but
we
would
expect
that
the
health
benefit
is
going
to
actually
be
greater
for
love
when
people.
Why
do
you.
A
Think
will
be
distributed,
then
any
differently
if
you're
saying
that
the
product
is
probably
not
being
sold
in
higher
income
areas
because
they
have
choices.
So
what?
If
the
people
as
you
referenced,
New
Mexico,
was
it
in
Mexico
Mexico,
okay,
interesting
choice,
not
necessarily
comparable
to
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
but
that's
another
story.
If
you
have
people
who
don't
have
money,
as
you
indicated
in
lower-income
neighborhoods,
then
they
will
not
drink
the
product
because
they
can't
afford
it.
A
E
So
right
now,
consumption
is
higher
among
people.
Low
incomes,
but
also
people
with
low
incomes
are
more
sensitive
to
price.
So
we'd
expect
that
all
groups
are
going
to
reduce
their
consumption
with
a
higher
price,
but
the
low
income
people
are
probably
going
to
reduce
their
consumption
more
than
the
high-income
people,
because
they're
they're
paying
attention
the
price
is
more
and
so
the
actual
health
benefit
reduce
their
consumption
would
probably
be
greater
for
low-income
people.
So,
at
the
end,
though,
how
that
tax
is
going
to
be
distributed
across
the
different
income
groups?
E
A
About
it,
yeah
I
mean
you're
talking
about
a
more
equitable
distribution
of
the
tasks.
I
don't
see
that,
based
on
you
indicating
that
this
already
a
lower
tax
will
probably
be
a
lower
tax
in
among
upper
income.
People
and
it'll
be
a
higher
tax
when
they
lower
income
people
and
when
that
goes
down,
then
you
suggested.
Maybe
they
even
go
further
down
on
the
upper
income.
People
I
don't
understand
how
there
will
be
a
more
equitable
I.
E
E
They're
they're,
going
to
some
of
them,
are
going
to
change
their
purchasing
pattern.
Some
of
them
are
going
to
stop
buying
sugary
drinks
at
all
some
of
the
woods
by
less,
they
will
probably
reduce
more
than
you'll
see,
reduction
among
high-income
people.
I
agree.
So,
in
the
end,
whether
they're
they're,
still
higher
and
consumption
or
the
same
or
lower
is,
is
an
open
question.
Okay,.
B
A
A
E
E
D
A
E
E
G
You,
mr.
president,
and
let's
let's
continue
on
with
the
the
sugar
drink,
tax
and
and
the
effect
and
consumption
in
Philadelphia
and
actually
first
good
morning
or
good
afternoon.
Ok,
so
just
a
couple
of
questions
on
that.
So
overall
you
would
say
that
the
goal
of
the
tags
or
as
the
health
commissioner,
it
is
your
hope
that
there
will
be
a
decrease
in
consumption.
G
G
And
one
of
the
things
that
greatly
concerns
me
is
that
we
are
embarking
on
something
that
would
really
change
the
face
of
Philadelphia.
In
terms
of
you
know,
quality
childhood
early,
childhood
education
and
I
have
some
concern
that
we
would
put
something
so
important
under
a
funding
stream
that
is
so
perilous
and
so
unstable,
and
you
know
we
wouldn't
fund
our
fire,
too,
went
with
sugar
drink
tax.
We
foot
wouldn't
fund
our
Police
Department
with
his
text.
We
wouldn't
fund
anything
that
is
important
to
us.
G
We
wouldn't
fund
it
with
this
tax,
and
so
I
have
some
great
concerns
here
that
we're
putting
in
place
a
system
that
almost
seems
like
it's
designed
to
fail.
We
want
consumption
to
go
down,
we
want
less
consumption,
but
at
the
same
time
we
want
to
fund
early
childhood
education
in
a
significant
way.
We,
this
is
something
that
we
cannot
afford
to
skimp
on.
We
cannot
afford
to
get
it
wrong
and
we've
gotten
it
wrong
for
so
long
this.
G
You
know
this
is
a
new
future,
a
new
hope
for
our
city
and
the
idea
that
we
are
putting
it
in
the
hands
of
a
sugary
drink
tax
which
we
all
think
consumption
is
going
to.
You
know
it's
a
declining
source
of
revenue,
and
so
I
would
say.
I
would
dare
say
that
you
wouldn't
want
your
department
funded
when
it's
sugary,
drink,
Tex.
H
Hi,
this
is
I'm
Anna,
Adams
and
I
animated
director.
I
am
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that.
The
way
that
the
funding
will
work
is
that
the
sugary
drink
tax
goes
into
the
general
fund
and
then
from
there
we
will
be
paying
for
the
cost
of
these,
the
pre-k
Community
Schools
and
everything
else
that
we
have
been
proposed.
So
it
will
flow
into
the
general
Flint,
like
all
the
other
taxes.
G
G
H
Right,
so
what
we're
saying
is
that
we
can't
afford
to
pay
for
these
programs
at
the
general
fund
right
now,
and
so,
if
we
have
the
sugary
drinks
text,
we
can
afford
to
pay
for
these
programs.
So
the
way-
and
if
we
didn't
have
a
show
you
drink
sex,
we
don't
find.
We
can't
see
a
way
of
paying
for
these
programs,
and
so
that's
that's
how
we
are,
including
in
the
budget.
So.
G
E
E
Appreciate
very
much
your
concern.
I
was
part
of
the
group
that
looked
at
the
the
revenue
estimates
for
this
and
they
assume
a
fifty
five
percent
decline
in
consumption.
That's
a
very
optimistic
from
the
health
commissioner's
perspective,
decline
and
consumption.
It
may
not
be
that
much
if
it
doesn't
decline
that
much,
then
the
revenue
will
come
in
actually
more
than
what
is
projected
here.
So
yes,
revenue
will
decline.
E
G
H
And
the
decline
is
only
it
I
mean
there's
a
huge
dick.
We
assume
the
the
loss,
the
decrease
in
consumption
is
in
the
first
year
and
the
decline
is
only
very
slight
every
year
after
that,
and
that's
just
a
natural
decrease
in
in
consumption
of
sugary
drinks.
We
I
know
that
when
we
have
increased
taxes
in
the
past,
we
have
specifically
done
so
for
specific
purposes
like
if
we've
increased
the
real
estate
tax
for
the
school
district.
We
have
done
so
for
those
wanna.
We
don't.
H
H
G
H
H
Well,
we're
assuming
there's
a
drop-off
in
consumption
and
I
think
the
Commissioner
by
saying
that
that
drop-off
and
consumption
is
likely
to
be
more
in
neighborhoods
that
are
lower
income
than
neighborhoods
that
are
higher
income,
so
I,
wouldn't
say
necessarily
the
distribution
is,
is
so
I
think
because
the
the
current
consumption
is
really
high
in
low-income
neighborhoods.
The
drop
off
is
actually
going
to
be
lower
that
it's
difficult
for
us
to
tell
but
I
think
if
we're.
H
If
we
believe
that
price
is
as
as
a
bigger
impact
in
lower-income
neighborhoods
than
if
the
price
goes
up,
then
consumption
would
go
down
further
in
those
neighborhoods.
Okay,
so
I
think
for
who's
bearing
the
tax
will
will
depend
on
who's
who's
more
susceptible
to
price
changes.
Okay,
no
I
bet
I
mean
I,
didn't
know
whether
you'd
agreed
up
to.
Finally,
that's
like
my
understandings,
have
Sweden.
E
Only
also,
this
is
unlike
say,
a
sales
tax.
This
is
one
tax
that
no
consumer
has
to
pay.
People
can.
Can
you
put
them
like
a
little
closer
to
you,
please
I'm
sorry
I'm
say
unlike
say,
a
sales
tax.
This
is
one
tax
that
no
consumer
has
to
pay
right.
They
can
choose
to
get
by
a
beverage
that
is
not
taxed
like
bottled
water
or
drink
the
tap
water
for
free.
G
I
know
my
time
is
up.
I'll
come
back
around,
but
I.
Just
think
that
we
have
to.
You
know,
be
real
about
what
we're
talking
about
here.
You
know
we're
trying
to
find
something
that
is
critically
important
to
the
city
of
Philadelphia
that
everyone
wants.
We
all
want
early
childhood
education,
but
we're
fun
to
get
on
a
revenue
stream
that
is
unstable
and
that
we
know
is
unstable
and
that
we
have
to.
We
have
to
figure
out
some
kind
of
way
that
we're
going
to
fund
early
childhood
education.
The
sugary
drink
tax
is
important.
G
So,
as
council
president
said
his
district
covers,
you
know:
North
Philadelphia
am
Rittenhouse
Square
and
North
Philadelphia,
you
know
folks
will
benefit
it,
but
they'll
be
paying
probably
a
larger
percentage
of
the
percentage
of
the
tax.
A
little
Rittenhouse
Square,
you
know
folks
will
be
able
to
benefit,
but
are
less
likely
to
be
drinking
soda
to
be
purchasing
and
drinking
soda.
So
I,
just
you
know,
I'll
come
back
around
to
honor
the
time,
but
I
just
think
that
what
we
say
has
to
have
some.
A
H
H
A
With
respects
to
the
councilwoman's
premise,
that
is
a
declining
revenue
stream,
naturally
without
the
sugar
tax,
but
with
the
sugar
tax,
will
probably
be
an
additional
declining
revenue
stream.
My
concern
with
respects
to
that
and
don't
get
me
wrong,
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
to
take
ten
pounds
off
as
we
speak
when
drinking
diet
Pepsi's
forever,
not
diet,
Pepsi's
what
died
whatever
you
know.
Now
they
tell
me
something
wrong
with
that.
A
That's
another
story,
so
the
obesity
issue
is,
you
know
a
real
challenge,
I
think,
frankly,
speaking
with
young
people,
a
lot
of
it
has
to
do
with
exercise
because
we
were
young,
you
had
to
exercise
in
school.
We
had
exercised
everywhere
now,
all
kids
to
us
do
this
and
that's
the
extent
of
the
exercise
is
the
thumb,
and
is
this
a
reality?
So
you
need
to
be
a
broader
approach
with
respects
to
the
issue
about
the
uncertainty
of
the
fund
and
all
thing.
This
money
goes
into
the
general
fund
and
I
can
recall.
A
A
Well,
we
ended
up
its
funding,
those
programs
out
of
the
general
fund
and
my
one
of
my
concerns
about
this
and
if
there's
declining
revenues,
then
we
will
ultimately
get
to
a
point
where
we
will
have
to
raise
another
tax
to
maintain
particularly
the
level
of
service
that
you
are
proposing,
which
is
quite
significant.
So
the
question
is:
if
that's
what
we
will
ultimately
do,
assuming
that
the
consumption
will
continue
to
decline,
because
there's
going
to
be
not
only
back
in
consumption,
is
going
to
be
people
going
across.
A
You
know
when
you
look
at
where
the
markets
are
located,
they're
going
to
be
people
going
across
there.
You
know
across
the
county
line
and
they're
going
to
find
alternative
ways
of
purchase
in
it.
Then
why
isn't
it
and
they've?
Given
it
and
I
know
it's
a
long
statement,
given
the
importance
of
this,
why
don't
we
look
at
a
general
revenue
stream
from
day
one
to
talk
about
funding
pre-k,
if
it's
that
important
and
if
we
understand
that
these
revenues
will
be
declining?
H
H
It's
stable,
I
mean
this
slight.
Is
it
doesn't
very,
very
much
in
our
in
our
revenue
with
estimates
that
varies
sort
of
96,
not
about
96
million
when
it's
fully
implemented
and
doesn't
change
that
much
partly
because
we
think
we'll
in
the
first
few
years
will
get
better
at
enforcement
and
we
put
money
in
the
revenue
department
for
enforcement
so
that
when
I
mentioned
the
decline,
it's
a
very
slight
decline
in
revenues.
We
did
look
at
other
types
of
revenue
sources
so,
but
this
I
think
was
the
most
palatable.
So.
A
This
gentleman
works
for
the
Inquirer
editorial
board,
not
I,
can't
think
of
them
may
be
on
a
handful
of
times
when
we
agree
and
he
was
on
a
TV
show,
and
he
said
that
this
particular
tax
is
a
text
that
was
proposed
because
it
was
the
least
passive
resistance,
because
the
reality
is
that
he
said.
Poor
people,
I
prefer
to
say
low
income.
People
will
be
the
ones
that
will
get
the
tax.
A
He
believes
that
that
was
the
easiest
path,
because
lower-income
people
tend
not
to
be
in
a
position
to
fight
the
government
like
upper
income.
People
do
ever
and
that's
that's
the
perspective
out
in
the
neighborhood
I'm,
not
going
to
tell
you
what
they
call
this
text
in
some
parts
of
the
community
and.
H
I
think
from
from
our
perspective,
we,
if
we
look
at
the
real
estate
tax,
that
would
be
borne
by
all
income
levels
with
a
drink
attacks
like
this
one.
You
could
make
choices
that
in
which
you
don't
have
to
purchase
this
product
and
therefore,
because
of
that
I
think
you
know,
the
argument
could
be
made
that,
but
this
is,
you
know,
has
a
less
of
an
impact
if
you're
choosing
to
buy
other
things.
H
It's
not
like
a
sales
tax,
because
that,
as
the
Commissioner
pointed
out,
where
that
would
be
imposed
on
everybody
and
there's
clearly
a
level
of
regression
with
a
regressive
nature
with
the
sales
tax.
This
is
something
you
could
opt
out
of
buying
this
product,
where
there
is
a
property
tax
and
some
of
the
other
taxes
that
would
be
borne
by
everyone.
H
A
F
Hear
me:
okay,
thanks
come
on
just
to
follow
up
questions.
You
know
when
the
mayor
announced
this
soda
tax,
I
personally
decided
to
stop
eating
sugar
as
I
watch.
This
movie
they've
talked
about
Cole
fed
up
and
I've
lost,
21
pounds
from
not
eating
sugar
and,
in
fact,
haven't
won
this
suit
six
years.
It's
amazing
congratulation.
E
F
E
E
Congratulations
on
doing
that
and
I'm
pleased
to
see
that
the
health
benefits
you're
getting
from
that,
but
definitely
sugar
and
liquid
form
is
worse
for
you
and
it
is
the
single
biggest
source
of
sugar
in
the
diet
is
sugar
and
beverages,
and
so
there's
I
haven't
seen.
Anybody
in
public
health
figured
out
a
way
to
tax
sugar
as
a
way
of
proteins
problem
and.
F
E
Are
this
matter
of
fact
that
there
was
a
study
that
just
came
out
last
week,
I'm
going
to
pull
it
up
here?
The
group
at
Harvard
had
developed
a
model
for
what
sugary
drink
taxes
do
and
they
put
in
the
Philadelphia
numbers
and
they
estimated
over
10
years
that
this
would
save
close
to
two
hundred
million
dollars
in
health
care
costs
for
people
in
Philadelphia,
and
that's
basically
due
to
redirect
reduced
rates
of
obesity
and
diabetes,
which
end
up
running
a
lot
of
health
care
costs
and.
E
Can
calculate
a
council
district
to
mean?
Yes,
we
can
calculate
and
send
you
diabetes
rates
by
a
council
district
have
looked
at
it,
it's
quite
high
in
some
districts,
it's
it's
over
twenty
percent
over
one
and
five,
and
just
to
be
for
people
who
haven't
seen
these
statistics
in
the
past.
You
know
diabetes
is
not
a
normal
part
of
the
human
condition.
If
you
go
back
to
nineteen
sixty
before
we
have
the
obesity
epidemic,
maybe
two
or
three
percent
of
people
had
diabetes.
It
was
pretty
rare.
So
now
it's
you
know.
E
There's
some
people
who
say
that
I
wouldn't
agree
with
her
on
that
I
think
and
I
can
give
her
evidence
to
to
show
why
I
disagree
with
her
on
that
now
we
don't
get
out
there
and
promote
diet
drinks.
We
don't
recommend
it.
I
would
rather
have
people
be
drinking
water,
but
if
they
have
to
choose
between
full
sugar
beverages
and
dive
drinks,
I'd
rather
have
them
be
consuming
diet,
drinks,
okay,.
C
President,
thank
you
very
much.
Suree
drink
tracks,
I
think
Councilwoman
bass
was
right
on
target.
This
is
important,
important
development
program
with
pre-k
and
I.
Think
she's
also
right
that
if
we
were
to
fund
our
police
and
fire
department
on
a
sugary,
drink
tax
and
people
would
laugh
at
us
and
say
how
ridiculous
that
is.
Mr.
commissioner,
and
all
due
respect,
you
brought
up
the
fact
that
Mexico
has
now
banned
sugary
drinks
or
text
tax,
not
bad,
not
bad.
C
Philadelphia
is
not
a
nation,
it's
not
even
a
state,
even
though
some
of
the
people
in
the
state
think
maybe
we
should
be
a
state
or
some
sold
down
delaware,
river
or
something
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
we
don't
live
on
an
island.
People
will
actually
go
to
delaware,
county
to
montgomery
county
two
bucks
county
to
Gloucester
Township,
to
Gloucester
County,
to
Camden
County,
to
Kent
County
in
Delaware.
To
avoid
this
and
I
think
they
will.
C
Somebody
in
the
industry
told
me
personally,
he
said:
I
won't
name,
it
be
any
of
them
because
he
didn't
say
it
publicly,
but
I
will
say
what
he
said.
He
said.
Taubman
burger
city
council
passes
this
sugary
drink
tax,
you're,
going
to
see
the
biggest
bootlegging
operation
since
Prohibition
I
think
the
numbers
are
really
really
flawed.
They
threw
their
own
admission,
say:
there's
a
50
percent
drop
off
rate
I.
C
Think
it's
going
to
be
much
more
than
that,
and
also
with
the
fact
that
we
don't
live
off
an
island
you're
going
to
get,
and
just
so
you
know
how
I
know
this,
because
one
a
day
we
are
moving
slowly.
It
takes
me
10
minutes
to
walk
into
Montgomery
County
from
my
home.
Those
in
the
border
areas
are
going
to
have
very,
very
difficult
so
to
base
a
program
that
is
so
important
to
the
city
and
I,
get
it
I.
Think
pre-k
can
help
the
city
in
many
many
many
many
many
ways.
C
We
have
to
find
another
alternative
to
fund
this,
and
that's
us
collective
body
here.
I
agree
with
council
president
that
this
is
a
tax
that
is
very
much
regulated
to
folks
that
don't
have
a
lot
of
money
but
like
the
sugary
drinks
and
I
think
as
Americans,
we
should
be
free
to
choose
that,
although
I
will
often
give
my
comments
to
councilman
tom
I
did
have
a
chance
to
watch
fed
up
this
weekend,
you're
right
on
target.
C
In
fact,
if
we
do
anything
out
its
body,
we
should
make
it
a
point
that
everybody
in
Philadelphia
has
to
watch
that
movie
council
president,
because
it
is
that
good,
but
to
base
an
economy
to
base
a
funding
source
on
something
that
you
want
to
end
I
mean
we
might
as
well
in
tax
all
of
sugar
and
cupcakes
and
donuts
and
all
kinds
of
things.
If
we're
going
to
be
able
to
fund
this,
if
we
are
at
all,
we
must
truly
find
another
way
to
fund
this,
because
the
numbers
don't
work.
C
Mexico
and
Philadelphia
are
eons
different,
because
one
is
a
nation
and
one
is
merely
a
city
and
I
don't
know.
I
think
my
comments
are
more
than
any
kind
of
questions
is
I
I,
don't
believe.
There's
an
answer
to
the
funding
source
through
a
point
attacks
on
the
very
issue
that
you
say
is
unhealthy
and
I
would
agree
with
you.
It
is
unhealthy.
I
I
sit
here
before
you
on
give
it
a
little
medical,
I'm
pre-diabetic.
You
know
what
I
drank
a
lot
and
ain't
a
lot
of
sweets
and
I
probably
eat
the
wrong
things.
C
E
You
very
much
council
members
I'll
just
say
that
besides
Mexico,
the
other
jurisdiction
that
has
passed
a
tax
on
sugary
drinks
is
Berkeley
California,
which
is
the
town
and
that's
early.
It's
just
this
calendar
year,
but
so
far
doesn't
look
like
there's
an
awful
lot
of
people
that
are
purchasing
across
jurisdictions,
they're
going
out
of
their
way
to
get
it
out
of
Berkeley
to
another
city
in
order
to
purchase
your
greed
drinks.
I
understand
Philadelphia
is
different
from
Berkeley.
E
This
is,
and
certainly
there
will
be
some
that'll
do
that,
but
I
don't
expect
it's
going
to
be
large
if
people
are
going
to
the
grocery
store
and
they're
buying,
all
their
other
foods
and
they're
buying
their
soda.
When
they're
there,
it's
a
pretty
big
inconvenience
to
then
go
in
your
car,
make
a
separate
trip
to
Montgomery
kimono.
E
C
Are
some
that
say
that
the
the
manufacturers
and
those
that
actually
will
pay
the
tax
will
maybe
not
pass
it
along?
Well
I.
Disagree
with
that,
because
it's
cost
of
doing
business
down
the
line
that
is
being
passed
along
because
their
motivation
is
profit
and
also
another
thing.
Council
president,
if
I
could
I
had
their
cert
supposed
to
be
31
different
people
that
could
eligible
to
pay.
This
tax
I
asked
for
that
list
and
was
told
I
can't
get
it
because
its
secrets
on
how
I
don't
know
maybe
like
the
Koch
formula,
can.
E
Yeah
on
the
question
of
the
will,
the
manufacturers
passed
through
the
taxes
of
the
price
or
not
I
can
just
say
that
in
Berkeley
their
evaluations
and
about
half
of
the
taxes
passed
through
and
so
that
their
with
competition-
it-
maybe
that's
not
all
pass
through,
but
the
certain
amount
is
and
that
there
is
a
certain
mountain
that
will
have
an
effect
on
reducing
consumption.
The
other
color
I've
just
say
on
the
question
of,
should
we
support
a
government
program
with
a
tax
on
something
that
we
don't
want
people
to
consume?
E
C
C
C
A
Industry-
and
I
know
I
said
I
was
going
to
shut
up,
but
the
follow
up
on
my
house.
Berkeley
I
mean
Berkeley.
The
demographics
in
berkeley
are
so
disliked
the
city
of
philadelphia,
median
income
per
family,
the
medium
household,
the
size
of
that
particular
the
demographics
has
it
released
to
race
and
all
the
nails
issues
are
so
much
different
than
Philadelphia.
In
addition
of
which
I
understand,
it
was
actually
a
referendum
in
berkeley
that
created
this
sugar
so
to
compare
that
with
the
city
of
philadelphia
in
this
particular
process.
B
A
E
A
B
D
We
go.
Thank
you
very
much
council
president,
so
I,
you
know.
I
voted
against
the
soda
tax
previously
and
I'm,
trying
to
keep
an
open
mind
best
I
can,
although
I
do
have
a
lot
of
issues
me
personally,
I
do
think
it's
bad
tax
policy
to
tax
items
like
soda,
potato
chips
and
I
did
vote
to
tax
cigarettes.
I,
don't
think
it's
good
tax
policy.
D
D
E
D
I
want
to
be
like
a
you
know
like
not
serious
with
you,
but
but
it
seems
inconsistent
to
me
from
a
health
point
of
view
that
we
have
gaming,
which
I
don't
think
is
good
for
your
health
me
personally,
but
it's
legal
you're,
an
adult
you
want
to
go
gambling
go
ahead.
Do
it
I,
try
not
to
go
there
arm
and.
D
D
And
so
you
know
in
my
neighborhood
cobbs
creek
I,
walk
down
to
a
corner,
store
and
I
may
get
a
diet,
coke
and
some
ice
cream
for
the
kids
and
they're
just
less
options
in
my
neighborhood
for
vacation,
for
stress
relief
for
sports
or
for
anything
else.
But
I
can
walk
three
blocks
this
way
and
get
my
diet
coke
in
delaware
county.
D
So
my
concern
is
from
you
know
this
conversation
that
if,
if
we
are
not
just
going
to
do
things
for
health
purposes,
then
what
we're
doing
is
we're
finding
convenient
source
to
get
some
money
and
I.
Don't
know
what
source
that's
going
to
be
next
time,
potato
chips
or
whatever
and
it
is.
It
is
shaky
because
you're
never
going
to
have
enough
money.
That
way
when
you
live
right
next
to
other
places
where
you
can
easily
get,
you
can
replace
those
items
to
Councilwoman
basses
point.
D
D
Can
you
look
at
this
from
a
health
perspective
if
you
do
not
take
in
the
total
considerations
of
what
they're
you
know,
I
understand
sugar
is
not
good.
I
put
two
teaspoons
in
my
coffee
this
morning
and
I
drank
it
and
I'm
probably
going
to
keep
doing
that.
I,
don't
know,
but
I'm
not
saying
it's
good
for
me
and
I
feel
bad
telling
you
that.
D
E
A
few
things,
first
of
all
that
2
teaspoons
of
sugar,
you
having
a
coffee,
is
now
a
lot
of
sugar
compared
to
sugary
drinks
and
there's
probably
more
like
a
dozen
and
a
12
hour,
10
cup
of
coffee
in
the
morning.
Oh
sorry,
so
you
but
know
the
amount
of
sugar
and
the
sugary
drinks
really
is
enormous.
It's
much
more
than
people
would
ever
put
in
on
their
own.
Second
there's,
actually
a
long
tradition
in
this
country
of
taxing
things
that
we
don't
recommend
that
people
consume,
but
they
want
to
consume
anyway.
E
It's
not
just
cigarettes,
but
also
alcohol,
and
the
revenue
is
used
for
variety
of
government
purposes,
including
addressing
some
of
the
social
problems
and
health
problems
that
are
caused
by
those
substances.
So
this
just
would
add
sugary
drinks
to
the
list
of
tobacco
and
alcohol
things
that
we
are
taxing
recognizing
that
people
some
people
consume
them
anyway,
and
that
prohibiting
them
is
a
mistake.
We
have
so
we
felt
about
alcohol
after
the
prohibition,
but
this
does
it
dealt
with
some
of
the
problems
and
some
of
the
needs
of
government.
E
G
G
So
Anna
the
question
I
have
is:
when
we
look
at
funding
something
so
important.
Did
we
consider
a
bond?
You
know
we're
going
to.
You
know:
go
after
a
huge
amount
of
capital
to
be
able
to
do
the
playground,
rebuilds
and
the
community
schools
and
I
think
to
the
tune
of
about
300
million
400
million
dollars,
and
then
there
was
the
additional
revenue
that
we
hope
to
generate
or
the
additional
dollars
wheel
to
get
which
was
supposed
to
come
from
I
think
we
were
going
to
get
go
through.
G
H
So
we
have
assumed
that
that
we
would
do
three
borrowings
each
of
a
hundred
million
dollars
for
rebuild,
and
that
would
be
over
six
years
and
then
the
rest
would
be
raised
through
private
philanthropic
and
federal
sources.
Okay,
so
private
state
yeah
I
mean
there's
money
and
kind
of
other
sources.
I
know
that
something
like
dobara
dienes
can
talk
more
about
that.
Yes,
that's
the
plan.
G
So
is
there
any
reason
why
we
didn't
find
something
so
important
the
same
way
so
we're
looking
at
playground?
You
know
where
we're
going
through
stable
sources
of
funding
for
playgrounds
and
community
schools.
Yes,
the
way
that
we
are
the
childhood
education,
we're
looking
at
something
that
is
unstable
in.
H
General,
you
don't
get
out
of
bond
for
ongoing
operating
costs,
because
these
are
kind
of
one-time
capital
investments.
That's
that's
how,
generally
you
finance
these
over
a
long
period
of
time,
and
that's
so
with
rebuild
and
with
the
general
capital
budget.
We,
because
these
are
long-term
investments,
then
you
can
finance
that
over
a
long
period
of
time
and
that's
how
we
look
at
doing
this
as
a
long-term
asset
and
so
we'd
be
investing
sort
of
a
long
term.
H
H
G
G
H
I
think
for
us
anytime,
we
rethink
borrowing
fairly
seriously
in
the
finance
department.
Just
because,
when
you
borrow
you,
there
are
fixed
costs
that
we
have
to
pay
every
single
year
and
any
anytime.
We
borrow
money.
We
have
to
pay
that
interest
on
that
borrowing
and
we
have
high
fixed
costs
at
the
city
because
of
our
high
pension
costs
and
our
other
apps
house,
and
so
we
try
very
hard
not
to
borrow
money
unless
we
think
we
need
it
or
if
it's
for
a
long-term
asset
and
so
with
the
capital
budget.
H
G
Much
I
don't
mean
it
to
take
it
lightly.
I'm,
you
know
I'm
not
suggesting
that
you
all
take
it
lightly
or
that
we
should
either
when
we
borrow
that
kind
of
writing
money.
You
know
it's
a
lot
of
money.
It
is,
and
so
I
would
just
say
that
if
there
is
anything
that
is
worthy
of
that
kind
of
investment,
yes
really
childhood
education,
I'm.
H
G
All
right,
as
we
I'm
just
going
to
move
to
another
topic,
just
just
for
a
moment,
one
of
the
concerns
that
I
have
as
we
talk
about
you,
know
sugar
and
some
of
the
health
effects,
particularly
on
low-income
communities.
Is
we
see
that
there
is
a
disparity
in
Philadelphia
in
terms
of
all
of
the
health
care
institutions
that
we
have?
G
We
have
some
of
the
best
health
care
in
the
nation
right
here
in
Philadelphia,
and
yet
we
have
some
of
the
highest
rates
of
obesity,
hypertension,
diabetes,
you
name
it
poor
people
in
Philadelphia
have
it
and
they
have
it
in
numbers
that
are
just
outrageous,
so
it
almost
makes
you
feel
as
if
for
the
the
institutions
that
we
have
here,
and
this
is
a
call
to
them
as
well.
You
know
who
are
you
here
to
serve?
G
Who
are
you
here
to
connect
with
and
to
make
a
difference
that
does
it
matter
that
Philadelphia
has
these
high
rates
of
disparities
in
all
of
the
categories
every
box
check
and
that
you
know
folks
in
the
neighborhoods,
can't
seem
to
get
access
and
I.
Think
that
that's
a
huge,
huge
problem
and
I?
Don't
know
if
there
is
anything
that
the
health
department
is
planning
to
come
back,
that
yeah.
E
You
know,
sick
I
want
to
go
to
a
doctor
too,
but
it
doesn't
really
prevent
the
problems,
and
so
you
wouldn't
expect
that
putting
money
in
healthcare
was
going
to
reduce
rates
of
obesity
or
reduce
rates
of
diabetes,
obesity
and
diabetes
come
from
the
conditions
in
which
people
live,
the
social
conditions
and
the
things
that
are
available
in
their
neighborhoods
and
so
in
public
health.
The
health
department,
we
think
about
how
to
prevent
those
sorts
of
things,
and
you
know
the
this.
The
mayor's
budget
proposal
addresses
it
from
a
couple
of
ways.
E
It
tries
to
address
one
of
the
risk
factors
which
is
consumption
of
sugary
drinks,
but
also
provides
the
kind
of
investments
into
the
social
conditions
in
which
people
live,
with
things
like
pre-k,
which
could
help
prevent
health
problems
down
the
line,
so
I
agree
with
you
that
our
the
amount
of
money
we
spent
in
health
care
in
this
country
is
not
addressing
our
fundamental
health
problems.
We're
doing
we
can
to
try
to
to
contribute
to
this
solution.
Okay,.
G
What's
you
know,
one
of
the
statement
you
just
made?
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
I'm
out
of
town
right
I,
can
go
okay,
one
of
the
statements
you
just
may
it
was
about.
You
know
that
basically
people,
you
know
what
you
have
in
your
neighborhood
is
what
you
have
access
to
and
that's
how
how
people
end
up.
You
know
in
the
situations
that
they
end
up
in
in
terms
of
being
unhealthy.
G
So
if
all
you
have
in
your
neighborhood
is
stopping
goes
and
we
have
neighborhoods
where
they
are
just
in
abundance,
you
can't
find
a
tomato,
but
you
can
certainly
find
a
place
to
get
a
cold
beer
and
a
shot
of
liquor,
and
so
I'd
like
to
know
what
the
health
department
sees
its
role
as
in
terms
of
addressing
the
stop
and
goes
that
exists
in
our
neighborhoods.
I
recently
went
into
a
stop-and-go
at
the
corner
of
22nd
and
Cambria,
which
is
in
my
district
and
Cambrian
Indiana,
I'm,
sorry,
twenty-second,
indie,
and
I
think
it
was.
G
But
I
went
in
and
you
know
I
said
you
know
on
the
outside.
It
says
you
know
you
can
buy
sandwiches
or
you
can
buy
noodles
or
you
can
buy
this,
that
the
other
thing
so
I
went
and
I
said
well,
I'd
like
to
order
something.
What
do
you
serve
and
so
the
first
person
told
me
we
don't
serve
food
and
then
someone
else
came
from
behind
sea
glass
and
says:
oh,
no,
no,
we
serve
food.
I
said
well.
What
kind
of
food
do
you
serve?
G
I'd
like
to
see
a
menu
and
they
said
well,
we
saw
we
sell
noodles
I
said:
okay.
Well,
I
mean
what
kind
of
noodle
see
you
sell,
and
it
was
all
those
and
noodles
couple.
You
know
time.
I
for
the
hot
water
in
yeah
everybody's
had
those
on
occasion
right
and
so,
but
that
was
the
food
that
they
serve
to
qualify
as
basically
I,
guess
not
being
a
bar,
so
they
serve
food
I
mean
they
serve
noodles
for
food.
They
serve
potato
chips,
candy
cheese,
puffs
for
children.
G
There
are
two
schools
in
the
neighborhood,
but
actually
a
daycare
center
right
around
the
corner,
almost
adjacent
to
this
building
and
a
public
elementary
school
less
than
one
block
away,
and
so
a
child
could
come
in
and
be
able
to
purchase
candy
snacks,
whatever
they
want
it.
While
I
was
able
to
purchase.
You
know
as
an
adult,
an
alcoholic
beverage
and
I'd
like
to
know
what
the
health
department's
stance
is
on
this
phenomenon
that's
happening
in
our
community.
G
It
seems
as
if
somehow
you
know
this
this
rule
or
this
allowance
that
you
could
sell
shots
of
hard
liquor.
You
know
it
seems
as
if
we
woke
up
in
one
day
it
was
just
a
rule,
so
I
don't
know
exactly
when
that
became
the
rule,
but
it
is
it's
legal,
but
it's
really
destroying
communities,
and
when
we
talk
about
wanting
to
do
something
to
affect
health,
I
can
think
of
nothing
else.
That's
more
important
than
addressing
some
of
these
stop
and
goes
because
they
really
do
support.
You
know
a
condition
of
alcoholism.
G
You
know
you
can
come
in.
You
can
get
a
shot.
You
can
stay.
You
can
hang
all
day.
I
have
stopped
and
goes
where
people
hang
out
all
day.
It's
like
the
neighborhood
spot,
people
just
come
and
they
hang
and
I'd
like
to
know
what
the
health
department
is
planning
to
do.
Or
do
you
see
yourself
having
a
role
in
that
or
what
can
be
done?
Yeah.
E
G
E
E
See
I
mean
the
Health
Department
inspects
those
places
for
their
food
sales,
but
otherwise
we
don't
regulate
them
much.
We
are.
We
do
have
a
healthy
corner
store
network
where
we're
working
really
on
a
voluntary
basis.
To
try
to
have
these
corner
stores
sell
a
healthier
mix
of
products.
We're
doing
this
with
the
food
trust
that
has
made
some
difference
doesn't
make
a
radical
difference.
It
there's
not
a
lot
of
authority
right
now
for
us
to
do
things
other
than
ask,
but
let
me
say,
I'm
very
glad.
G
G
Right
and
as
we
as
we
move
forward
and
and
working
on
this
problem,
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
I've
noticed
is
that
pretty
much
everyone
that
I've
went
into
you
know,
I
will
feel
perfectly
comfortable
ordering
something
from
the
grill,
because
they're
all
spotless
they
haven't
been
used.
It
looks
like
in
years
nice
and
clean
so
I'm
sure
when
your
health
department
goes
in.