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From YouTube: Special Committee on Child Separation 5-6-2022
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The Special Committee on Child Separation In Philadelphia of the Council of the City of Philadelphia will hold a Public Hearing on Friday, May 6, 2022, at 10:00 AM to hear testimony on the following items:
210914
Resolution authorizing Council’s Special Committee on Child Separations in Philadelphia to conduct public hearings to further understand the role of community umbrella agencies (CUA), such as Turning Points for Children, in the local child welfare system, and further investigate the systemic failures that resulted in three girls being returned to their sexually abusive father.
A
Good
morning,
this
is
a
hearing
by
the
special
committee
on
child
separations
in
philadelphia.
A
F
Good
morning,
city
council,
I'm
a
president
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
this
hearing.
A
A
A
By
continuing
to
be
in
the
meeting,
you
are
consenting
to
being
recorded
additionally
prior
to
recognizing
members
for
the
questions
or
comments
they
have
for
witnesses.
I
will
note
for
the
record
at
this
time
that
we
will
use
the
chat
feature
available
in
microsoft
teams
to
allow
members
to
signify
that
they
wish
to
be
recognized
in
order
to
comply
with
the
sunshine
app.
The
chat
feature
must
only
be
used
for
this
purpose.
C
Yes,
I
do.
Thank
you,
mr
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
your
work
on
this
very
important
issue.
As
we
know
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
as
you
know,
the
numbers
have
improved,
but
we
had
the
unfortunate
distinction
of
having
more
out
of
child
placements
than
any
other
city
in
the
nation,
and
there
is
something
I
believe
that's
critically
wrong
with
that.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
this
hearing
so
that
we
can
really
examine
what
is
happening
and
why
it
is
happening
and
about
not
necessarily
any
one
individual
case.
C
Although
there
are
some
that
are
quite
egregious
that
we
need
to
call
attention
to,
but
across
the
board
there.
We
know
that
these
are
the
ones
that
sort
of
stuck
out,
but
there
are
some
that
probably
need
a
lot
of
attention
to
be
drawn
on
them
as
well,
and
we
just
don't
know
about
them,
but
looking
at
the
entire
system
and
fixing,
you
know
some
of
the
things
that
need
to
be
fixed
very
quickly.
C
C
The
idea
of
removing
a
child
from
a
household
situation
in
which
they
could
actually
stay
and
with
the
right
supports
and
with
the
right
you
know,
programs
in
place
for
that
entire
family,
not
just
the
parents,
not
just
the
child,
but
what
else
can
we
do
and
how
can
we
do
it
to
keep
families
unified
that,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
always
has
to
be
our
goal?
C
So
I
just
really
want
to
thank
you
and
all
of
my
colleagues
and
everyone
sitting
on
this
committee
for
all
of
your
work,
leading
up
into
this
point
and
beyond,
because
there
is
work
to
be
done
and
I
certainly
look
forward
to
doing
my
fair
share.
So
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
A
A
Seeing
none,
I
will
make
a
statement.
A
This
is
very
challenging
because
we
have
read
in
the
newspaper.
This
is
where
I
discovered
it,
and
many
of
my
colleagues
and
I
want
to
thank
council
member
kenyatta
johnson
for
raising
this
through
a
resolution
that
ultimately
led
to
this
resolution
to
hold
a
hearing.
A
However,
outside
of
what
we
read
in
the
newspaper,
there
is
a
confidentiality
agreement
as
part
of
the
legal
settlement,
so
there
there
are
some
restrictions
and
what
we
can
know
and
there's
a
state
law
that
prevents
privacy
of
children
and
and
other
individuals,
cases
to
the
extent
the
law
prevents
a
public
conversation
or
even
private
conversation
about
details
of
what
occurred.
A
What
we
are
trying
to
do
is
to
look
at
how
our
city
government
is
caring
for
vulnerable
children,
especially
those
that
are
subject
to
abuse
and
how
we
are
trying
to
not
only
help
them
but
also
help
their
families.
A
In
this
case,
this
is
a
situation
where
the
father,
the
biological
father,
was
abusing
his
three
daughters
physically
sexually
and
emotionally
in
horrific,
and
the
three
young
girls
were
removed
from
him
from
his
ability
to
harm
them
and-
and
that
is
that
is
where
the
system
works.
It
removes
those
children
from
the
harm.
A
A
I
believe
he
had
eight
different
addresses,
none
of
which
appear
to
be
his
home
and
beyond
that,
a
history
of
four
years
of
abuse
and
then
the
three
sisters,
his
daughters,
are
returned
to
him
where
they
are
subject
to
further
physical
and
sexual
abuse
and
how
that
happened,
and
what
happened
is
what
we're
trying
to
find
out
in
order
to
see
how
we
as
a
government
and
a
society,
can
and
better
care
for
those
in
our
charge.
A
It
is
challenging
for
us,
as
a
special
committee,
to
try
to
investigate
this
because
of
the
restrictions
and
confidentiality,
but
then
how
do
we,
as
a
legislative
body,
provide
the
oversight
and
legislative
solutions?
We
should
be
providing
when
it's
very
difficult
to
understand
what
happened.
A
The
department
of
human
services
is
in
charge
of
this
and
they
have
conducted
their
internal
investigation.
I
I'm.
A
Of
the
understanding
that
that
those
investigations,
certainly
in
detail,
cannot
be
shared
with
us,
but
what
we're
looking
for
is
the
approach
and
lessons
learned,
those
type
of
things
and
and
and
a
a
overall
sense
of
how
does
dhs,
manage
these
cases
and
the
community
umbrella
agencies
and
we're
going
to
hear
from
our
dhs
commissioner.
A
Today
about
that,
we
have
invited
the
community
umbrella
agency
that
has
been
identified
through
the
news
article.
That
is
turning
points
for
children.
To
testify.
To
my
knowledge,
they
are
sending
a
written
statement.
I
don't
have
it
as
as
of
this
moment
and
then
we
have
some
additional
witnesses
who
wanted
to
testify
and
those
who
want
to
make
public
comment.
A
We
do
have
on
our
special
committee,
a
person
who
is
very
familiar
with
what
happened,
because
he
is
one
of
the
attorneys
and,
however,
he
is
not
a
witness.
He
is
a
member
of
this
special
committee
and,
as
a
highly
respected
attorney,
will
use
his
judgment
as
to
when
and
how
he
can
make
comments
or
share
some
level
of
insight
within
the
restrictions
that
he
is
bound
to
by
law.
A
My
interest
is
also
this,
and
I
want
to
say
this
so
that
all
witnesses
will
understand
what
my
concerns
are:
a
system
that
is
overloaded
staff
that
are
overwhelmed
dhs
workers
needing
to
not
only
do
their
work
but
supervise
community
umbrella
agency
workers
or,
as
as
they're
called
kua's
community
umbrella
organization
workers.
A
What
are
the
red
flags?
What's
the
accountability,
and
is
this
the
result
of
a
system,
albeit
much
of
it,
from
state
law
that
requires
investigation
follow-up
on
things
that
include
rumor
that
include
anonymous
allegations
that
provide
no
reasonable
suspicion,
an
overworked
system
where
even
children
in
good
homes
are
subject
to
investigation
and
separation.
While
children
like
these
three
sisters
fall
through
the
cracks
because
of
a
lack
of
attention,
burnout
turnover.
A
Or
is
this
an
example
of
something
through
human
error
that
unfortunately
occurred,
which
can
be
improved
but
is,
is
not
an
is
not
a
a
a
a
situation
where.
A
A
I
think
had
it
not
been
for
the
newspaper
article
we
would
not
know
and
how
many
other
cases
like
this
are
out
there,
where
we
don't
know
so
that,
from
my
perspective,
is
what
we
are
looking
at
and
how
we're
going
to
proceed
is
the
clerk
will
call
our
witnesses
and,
after
the
testimony
of
the
panel
and
sometimes
there's
only
one
witness
on
the
panel,
I
will
open
it
up
for
questions
by
the
co-chair
and
the
members
of
this
special
committee.
A
Good
after
good
morning,
commissioner,
still
morning,
are
you
connected
and
ready
to
proceed.
G
I
do
so
I
will
ask
thank
you,
heather
keith,
for
sharing
the
powerpoint
now.
G
Good
morning,
city,
council,
members,
o
bass
and
members
of
the
council's
special
committee
on
child
separations
in
philadelphia,
my
name
is
kimberly
ali.
I
am
the
commissioner
of
the
city
of
philadelphia.
Department
of
human
services
with
me
today
are
samuel
b,
harrison
iii
deputy
commissioner
for
child
welfare
operations,
nadine
parisi,
chief
financial
officer,
as
well
as
other
members
of
my
team.
G
As
you
know,
child
welfare
is
extremely
hard
work.
Therefore,
I
must
take
the
time
to
thank
dhs
and
kua's
staff,
as
well
as
our
providers
for
their
dedication
and
commitment
to
children,
youth
and
families,
even
during
a
global
pandemic
as
essential
employees.
They
have
the
tremendous
responsibility
to
ensure
that
children
and
youth
are
safe
and
that
they
are
provided
with
services
to
meet
their
individual
needs.
G
G
Next
slide,
crews
were
created
after
the
tragic
death
of
danielle
kelly
exposed,
severe
challenges
in
the
city's
child
welfare
system.
A
panel
of
experts
convened
by
former
mayor
john
street,
made
37
recommendations
and
among
them,
found
that
families
were
not
able
to
get
the
necessary
services
in
their
own
neighborhoods
and,
most
importantly,
the
existing
child
welfare
system
lacked
accountability
due
to
the
blurred
rolls
between
city
and
provider
case
managers.
G
G
G
Kuwas
were
fully
implemented
in
2015
that
same
year,
state
legislation
dramatically
changed
the
pennsylvania,
child
abuse
law
in
multiple
ways,
including
by
lowering
the
standard
for
child
abuse
and
expanding
its
definition.
Expanding
who
must
report,
abuse
and
move
into
an
electronic
state
child
abuse
reporting
system.
These
changes
in
law
resulted
in
major
impacts
to
dhs
work,
including
an
increased
number
of
reports
into
the
dhs
hotline,
an
unprecedented
number
of
investigations
and
an
increase
in
the
number
of
children
and
youth
receiving
in
home
and
out-of-home
services,
as
you
can
see
from
this
slide
again.
G
At
the
same
time
that
all
ten
couples
were
operational
in
2015
there
were
the
changes
to
the
child.
Protective
services
law
in
2018
mayor
kenny
appointed
a
child
welfare
oversight
board
to
continue
to
oversee
dhs
progress.
The
cwob
continues
to
provide
oversight
to
dhs
dhs
response
to
the
significant
increased
cause
to
the
hotline,
including
establishing
field
screening
units
to
review
general
protective
services
reports
with
the
purpose
of
diverting
families
from
the
formal
child
welfare
system
and
offering
families
prevention
services.
These
changes,
combined
with
our
cool
partnerships,
have
helped
us
improve
outcomes
for
children
and
families.
G
We
work
to
divert
families
from
the
child
welfare
system
to
better
support
families.
We
know
that
many
philadelphians
live
in
poverty.
The
goal
of
our
diversion
services
is
to
support
families
to
safely
care
for
their
children
without
dhs
involvement.
Dhs
diversion
program
served
5182
children
and
youth
in
fiscal
year,
2021
from
ensuring
connections
to
ongoing
physical
and
mental
health
care
to
paying
for
concrete
supports
diversion
services
stabilize
families.
G
Our
clues
continue
to
serve
more
than
2
000
children
and
youth
in
their
own
homes.
On
any
given
day,
these
supportive
services
increase
parents
and
caregivers
ability
to
provide
safe
and
a
nurturing
home
environment,
while
the
child
remains
with
his
or
her
parent
next
slide,
we
have
significantly
reduced
the
number
of
children
out
of
home
care.
At
the
end
of
2017,
there
were
six
thousand
one
hundred
and
eighty
three
children
in
placement.
G
As
of
today,
there
are
three
thousand
nine
hundred
and
ninety
five
children
in
placement,
which
is
a
thirty
35
decrease
in
the
number
of
children
and
youth
in
placement.
Next
slide,
our
entry
rate
or
entries
into
placement
have
also
decreased
entries
refer
to
the
number
of
children
and
you
who
are
removed
from
their
families
in
2017.
G
G
51
percent
of
children
in
placement
are
currently
placed
with
family
or
someone
that
they
know
in
kinship
care
homes
compared
to
40.9
percent.
At
the
beginning
of
improving
outcomes
for
children.
This
puts
us
well
above
the
national
average
of
34
next
slide
from
2017
to
present
5
235
children
have
been
reunified
with
their
families.
It
is
dhs
priority
to
help
families
stay
together
and
we
are,
and
when
we
are
unable
to
safely
do
so,
our
goal
is
to
reunify
as
quickly
as
possible.
Reunification
strategies
include
connecting
families
to
services
in
the
community.
G
Prior
to
ioc,
there
were
888
youth
in
residential
placement.
Today
we
have
277
youth
in
residential
placement.
Additionally,
we
are
committed
to
further
diverting
families
to
community-based
services
and
eliminating
disproportionality
across
the
formal
child
welfare
system.
Our
entry
rate
and
disproportionality
study
in
partnership
with
casey
family
programs
and
the
university
of
pennsylvania
identified
significant
disparities
and
reporting
to
the
hotline
and
how
these
disparities
stayed
constant
throughout
the
trajectory
of
a
family
with
dhs
services.
G
I
am
not
proud
to
say
this,
however,
you
must
make
an
admission
before
you
will
see
changes.
Unfortunately,
black
children
are
over
represented
in
the
child
welfare
system.
We
are
committed
to
doing
better
in
doing
so.
We
partner
with
the
philadelphia
department
of
health
and
successfully
apply
for
family
support
for
primary
prevention,
grant
from
the
federal
government,
with
the
goal
of
expanding
primary
prevention
efforts
and
eliminating
disparities.
G
Two
core
components
of
this
grant
are
the
expansion
of
the
department
of
health's
philly
families
can
support
line
to
divert
calls
that
will
typically
be
made
to
the
child
abuse
hotline
about
non-abuse
issues
and
connect
families
with
concrete
supports
and
resources,
and
a
new
information
campaign
and
training
for
mandated
reporters
to
help
them
support
families
in
need?
When
there
are
no
abuse
concerns,
we
hope
to
transform
mandated
reporters
into
mandated
supporters.
G
We
have
also
partnered
with
casey
family
programs
and
the
center
for
the
study
of
social
policy
to
assess
and
revise
our
policies,
as
it
relates
to
the
removal
of
children
and
youth
from
their
homes.
Using
an
anti-racist
lens
in
2018,
mayor
kenny
signed
a
new
executive
order
to
create
the
child
welfare
oversight
board
or
the
cwob.
G
The
cwob
primarily
provides
oversight
for
ioc.
It
also
reviews
and
assesses
dhs
progress
and
implementing
other
reform
initiatives.
The
department's
progress
implementing
the
recommendations
outlined
in
a
third-party
evaluation
of
ilc,
as
well
as
any
other
reform
suggested
by
the
board.
It
also
provides
recommendations
to
dhs
on
his
needs,
based
plan
and
budget
next
slide.
G
In
addition
to
the
public
quarterly
reporting
on
key
data
indicators
for
child
welfare,
we
also
published
the
annual
cool
scorecard.
The
kua
scorecard
was
developed
in
partnership
with
national
child
welfare
experts.
It
evaluates
and
monitors
the
kua's
progress.
It
has
proven
to
be
an
invaluable
tool
to
improve
system
performance
by
creating
a
blueprint
to
assess
cool
service
delivery
and
a
roadmap
to
achieve
ioc
goals.
G
Since
the
baseline,
coolest
scorecard
in
2017,
all
cools
have
shown
remarkable
improvement,
the
blue
represents
fy17
and
the
yellow
represents
fy21,
and
our
latest
fy21
coolest
scorecard
shows
continued
progress.
The
fy21
coolest
scorecard
had
three
couples
achieve
a
superior
rating
of
five
bells:
six
kua's
who
achieved
proficient,
which
is
four
bells,
and
one
could
achieve
the
rating
of
competent,
which
is
three
bells.
All
d,
although
dhs,
has
some
challenges,
our
ioc
community
based
model
is
working
as
we
have
seen
significant
gains.
We
are
confident
that
these
positive
trends
will
continue.
G
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
review
the
role
of
coolest
in
our
city
and
the
progress
that
we
have
made
together
with
the
coolest
and
our
community
partners.
In
closing,
I
understand
that
members
of
the
committee
may
have
questions
about
specific
cases.
Please
understand
that
under
pennsylvania's
child
protective
services
law,
I
am
legally
obligated
to
protect
the
confidentiality
of
children
and
families
involved
in
cases
of
suspected
or
confirmed
child
abuse
or
neglect.
Therefore,
I
am
unable
to
discuss
the
specifics
of
any
family's
case.
G
A
I
also
want
to
thank
you
for
making
your
executive
team
available
and
reflecting
the
seriousness
by
which
we
all
take
these
matters
with
that,
I'm
going
to
just
notify
the
committee
members
that
if
you
would
like
to
make
a
comment
or
question,
please
use
the
chat
feature
to
alert
me.
I
will
call
upon
you,
based
on
the
order
of
the
the
response
that
you
make
in
the
chat
feature
if
for
some
reason,
due
to
technology
or
otherwise,
that
I
I
failed
to
see
your
request.
A
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I'm
going
to
come
back
circle
back
with
my
questions
in
one
moment.
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
recognize
richard
wechsler
for
questions
and
comments.
E
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee,
and
thank
you,
commissioner,
ali
for
being
here
and
even
more.
Thank
you
for
the
progress
at
dhs.
Your
points
about
the
reduction
in
numbers,
particularly
the
number
of
entries
I
think,
are
well
taken.
This
is
not
the
agency.
It
was
just
a
few
years
ago
you
and
your
deputies,
and
especially
the
front
line
workers
and
their
union
deserve
credit
for
that.
E
E
That
I
know
of
a
rejection
of
what
I
have
called
the
big
lie
of
american
child
welfare.
The
false
claim
that
child
safety
and
family
preservation
are
opposites
that
need
to
be
balanced.
On
the
contrary,
family
preservation
almost
always
is
the
safer
option
and
a
system
that
emphasizes
it
makes
all
children
safer.
E
Than
it
takes
today,
so
if
child
removal
really
equaled
child
safety,
that
that
tragedy-
and
so
many
others
before
never
should
have
happened
so
now
the
question
becomes,
how
can
we
continue
the
progress-
and
my
first
question
for
you
is
you've-
mentioned
a
number
of
initiatives
that
sound
quite
promising,
but
I
don't
hear
any
that
would
involve
dhs
relinquishing
power.
There
are
a
lot
of
proposals
for
a
lighter
touch,
but
the
agency
still
remains
in
control.
E
That
means,
to
my
mind,
family
still
afraid
to
come
forward
for
help
for
fear
of
encountering,
for
example,
mandated
reporters
and
times
when
the
agency
would
not
exercise
the
best
possible
judgment.
Are
you
prepared
to
embrace
any
options
that
would
involve
relinquishing
some
dhs
power
and,
if
so,
what
would
those
be.
G
So
thank
you
for
that
question,
mr
wexler,
and
so
let
me
first
state
this
that
we
are
certainly
interested
in
partnering
with
you
know
any
organization
that
will
help
us
to
continue
to
improve
our
progress.
That
was
certainly
evident
in
the
partnership
that
I
indicated
with
the
university
of
pennsylvania
with
casey
family
programs
with
the
center
for
study
of
social
policy.
G
We
believe
at
dhs
that
one
of
the
ways
in
which
we
can,
I
wouldn't
necessarily
say,
relinquish
power,
but
I
will
say
this:
we
want
to
not
be
a
reactionary
system.
Child
welfare
is
reactionary
in
that
we
wait
until
a
report
comes
in.
We
need
to
change
that
narrative
and
that's
what
me
my
team
and
the
dhs
workers
and
the
co-workers
are
attempting
to
do.
G
However,
as
you
know,
that
takes
some
time
and
so
how
we
a
plan
to
do
that
is
we
want
to
do
more
primary
prevention
and
so
that
community
members,
family
members
mandated
reporters
who
we
want
to
trans
mandated
reporters
who
we
want
to
transform
to
mandated
supporters,
can
call
a
line,
not
the
dhs
hotline,
so
that
we
can
offer
more
supports
to
family
upstream.
G
Our
data
also
tells
us
in
that,
although
we
get
a
number,
a
significant
number
of
reports
that
come
into
the
dhs
hotline,
we
actually
divert
52
of
those
reports
and
we
do
not
accept
them
for
investigation
and
we
offer
prevention
services.
So
we
believe
that
we
are
starting
to
make
some
progress
in
that,
but
we
know
we
have
a
ways
to
go,
but
we
are
certainly
interested
in
having
further
conversations
to
determine
how
we
can
make
further
gains
in
that.
E
Joyce,
mcmillan
who's,
a
wonderful
activist
in
new
york,
I
know,
will
be
pleased
that
you're
using
her
line
about
mandatory
report.
Turning
mandatory
reporters
into
mandatory
supporters,
but
can
mandatory
reporters
do
that
if
they
remain
afraid
that
if
they
call
the
alternative
line
instead
of
childline,
they
face
any
number
of
potential
sanctions.
G
We
actually
have
focus
groups
with
mandated
reporters,
so
that
included
teachers
from
the
school
district
of
philadelphia
that
included
counselors
and
social
workers
from
the
children's
hospital
of
philadelphia,
as
well
as
saint
christopher's
hospital,
to
talk
to
them
about
their
thoughts
around
the
mandated
reporting
training.
And
so
we
share
that
information
with
our
state
partners
and
it's
my
understanding
that
the
state
is
looking
at
that
curriculum.
G
However,
we
don't
want
to
wait,
and
so,
as
I
testify
to
part
of
the
entry
rate
and
disproportionality
study
in
order
to
educate,
mandated
reporters
about
our
desire
to
develop
the
support
line
and
make
the
mandated
supporters,
we
are
looking
at
revising
or
supplementing,
I
should
say,
supplementing
and
not
revising,
since
the
mandated
reporting
training,
as
you
know,
is
estate
training.
We
are
looking
at
supplementing
the
training
so
that
we
can
offer
that
training
to
mandated
reporters
so
that
they
know
remember.
G
We
want
them
to
call
this
support
line
when
there
are
no
allegations
of
physical
or
sexual
abuse
when
there
is
a
service
need-
and
that
is
one
of
the
requests
of
our
mandated
reporters,
particularly
at
the
school
district
of
philadelphia,
who
indicated
that
they
need
to
know
the
resources
that
oftentimes
they
call
in
reports,
because
we
are
we,
we
operate
a
24
7
hotline,
and
so
we
always
answer
the
phone
and
so
they're.
Looking
for
some
immediate
help,.
E
Are
the
people
who
would
be,
at
the
other
end
of
that
alternative
line
to
call?
Are
they
themselves
mandated
reporters
and
are
the
agencies
with
whom
they
would
partner
to
help
the
family
also
mandated
reporters?
Because
if
the
answer
is
yes,
you've
still
got
the
problem
of
people
scared
to
go
that
route.
G
So
I
will
say
to
you,
mr
webster:
is
that
we're
still
in
a
planning
phase,
we
actually
was
awarded
their
grant
in
september
of
2021.
We
started
the
planning
phase
in
october
2021,
however,
so
we
still
in
the
planning
phase
in
terms
of
rolling
out
what
we
call
the
support
line.
G
We
did
intentionally
want
to
use
the
philadelphia,
phillies
cans
line
because
it
is
operated
by
the
health
department,
and
so
we
believe
in
more
of
a
public
health
approach
to
adjust
to
address
child
welfare
again.
Remember
we
want
to
do
the
primary
prevention
as
opposed
to
always
being
reactionary,
and
so
we
have
not
talked
about
who
would
man
that
particular
call?
G
What
we
will
say
is
that
we
want
mandated
reporters
if
there
are
allegations
of
physical
and
sexual
sexual
abuse,
even
if
they
call
the
line
as
mandated
reporters,
we
would
have
to
report
that
over
to
to
child
line,
but
we're
there
to
offer
a
resource
to
any
individual
that
calls.
So
it's
just
not
mandated
reporters.
We
also
want
to
do
a
communication
campaign
so
that
families
can
also
call
and
ask
for
the
much
needed
resources.
E
One
more
question,
then
I'll
stop.
One
of
our
proposals
in
our
report
would
be,
and
this
again
falls
under
the
category
in
some
ways
of
relinquishing
power
would
be
miranda
rights
for
families.
G
So
we
actually
do
that
mr
wexler,
as
part
of
our
letter,
that
we
leave
to
the
family.
So
we
leave
a
letter
and
we
also
verbally
explain
to
them.
We
actually
says
you
have
certain
rights
under
the
law.
You
have
a
right
to
have
an
attorney
present
during
the
interview
and
the
letter
goes
on
further,
but
we
do
provide
a
notification
to
families
when
they
are
subject
of
a
report.
E
Okay
and
the
family
is
told,
look
you
don't
have
to
talk
to
us?
Okay,
then
five,
then
one
last
thing:
how
does
that
account
then
for
what
happened
in
the
case
of
the
late
jennifer
benich,
where
the
pennsylvania
supreme
court
issued
a
50-page
ruling,
saying
you
didn't
do
any
of
that?
You
went
in
and
you
barged
in
in
that
case,
in
a
situation
where
the
only
allegation
was
somebody
said.
While
she
was
conducting
a
protest,
they
didn't
and
her
child
allegedly
was
with
her.
E
They
didn't
know
if
the
mother
fed
the
child,
I
mean
that
sounds
like
any
time.
Somebody
goes
to
a
protest.
Do
they
have
to
yell
out
hey
everybody,
I'm
feeding
my
child
now,
so
you
don't
need
to
call
dhs
on
me.
That
case
would
seem
to
reflect
none
of
the
lighter
touch
or
due
process
protections
that
you
mentioned.
G
E
Good
morning,
everyone
this
is
sill
morning.
Yes,
it
is
mr
wax
a
good
question
you're,
referring
to
what
we
call
the
ywb
case,
which
came
out
in
december,
the
supreme
court
decision
and
by
the
way,
I
think,
you're
making
a
lot
of
great
points
about.
You
know
the
kind
of
touch
we
have
and
how
that
affects
the
the
work
we
do.
E
E
That
case,
which
I
think
was
kind
of
your
initial
question
here
more
generally,
what
that
case
is
about
is
probable,
cause
and
motions
to
compel
cooperation,
and
I
think
the
supreme
court
came
down
in
in
in
that
regard
in
the
right
way,
even
though
it
was
my
office
that
filed
the
motion
to
compel
cooperation,
I
have
to
say
we
might
have
gotten
it
wrong
there.
E
B
E
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
wexler.
I
did
see
hand
raised
by
miss
yolanda
bryant.
Do
you
have
a
question
or
was
that
in
error.
C
F
Hi
to
everyone
good
morning,
commissioner,
good
morning,
councilman
david.
F
Questions
for
the
commissioner.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
know
how
can
even
dx
dhs
fix
dhs.
I
listened
to
your
whole
slide
everything
that
you
said
of
2018.
F
Actually
I
was
the
case
with
my
grandchildren.
I
came
to
you
so
you
it's
not
like.
It
was
said
that
my
case
wasn't,
you
know
looked
into.
It
was
a
sexual
assault
with
my
five-year-old
grandchildren.
F
Another
thing
is
so
many
questions
that
I
do
have
to
say,
because
one
I
feel
like
y'all
violate
the
privacy
of
citizens
when
y'all
come
to
the
home.
It's
not
what
you
what
was
said
when
you
come
to
a
home,
someone
home
and
you
saying
that
they
have
every
right
to
bring.
You
know
attorney
there.
That's
not
true,
because
when
you
try
to
call
the
attorney,
you
use
the
police
as
force
to
to
make
a
family
feel
threatened.
F
So
how
do
a
family
supposed
to
go
from
there
if
a
family
going
through
poverty,
problems
or
and
don't
have
the
money
to
afford
attorney?
And
he
uses
your
attorneys
that
y'all
use,
which
most
kids
that's
how
they
stay
in
the
system,
because
they're
not
looking
out
every
attorney
is
not
looking
out.
If
you
have
the
case
low,
you
have
attorneys
like
lisa
mother,
I
mean
lisa
visco.
You
have
all
of
these
attorneys
that
we
have
that.
F
It
shows
that
case
load
is
full
you,
you
can
see
it
it's
in
docket,
but
still
y'all
still
give
them
these
cases
and
say
that
they
overwhelm
instead
of
providing
money
that
can
help
for
parents
to
get
their
own
attorneys.
So
there
there's
so
many
acts
of
violations
that
dhs
do
to
a
parent
to
and
how
can
a
parent,
a
family
member
even
get
their
child
back?
That's
for
one.
I
feel,
like
you
just
read
a
slide.
You've
read
like
a
fairy
tale
book
that
wasn't
true.
I
mean
you
can
read
something,
but
the
facts.
F
Is
there
there's
over
hundreds
of
parents,
thousands
actually
in
the
city
of
philadelphia?
That's
going
through
these
issues?
Many
have
came
to
myself.
Many
have
came
to
councilman
david,
oh
many
of
people
came
to.
You
have
even
cried
out
for
help,
and
still
their
cases
is
is
is
not
fun.
How
many
cases
do
you
have
unfounded,
commissioner,
that
y'all
still
haven't
let
their
children
go?
F
These
are
questions
that
that
need
to
be
raised.
The
bar
because
most
of
these
children,
that's
in
the
system.
Their
cases
was
unfounded.
Why
do
y'all
even
hold
the
children
once
the
case
is
unfounded?
Doesn't
unfounded
mean
not
guilty
that
the
parent
wasn't
found
in
a
regular
case
court
of
law?
A
judge
would
have
to
let
them
go
because
we
don't
have
nothing
on
them.
So
why
hold
their
children?
Why
make
the
process
be
so
long
and
why
do
y'all
need
so
much
funding?
F
Why
do
dhs?
You
said
that
the
mirror
created,
I
actually
wrote
it
down
the
mirror,
created
the
primary
prevention
of
you
know:
y'all
just
created
the
primary
convention
grant
you
know
to
help.
F
And
stuff-
and
you
said
you
know
you
just
got
funded
for
that.
Well,
you
have
funding
for
that
funding
for
the
office,
the
children
of
family.
That's
another
dhs,
basically,
that's
a
whole
nother
dhs,
that's
getting
funded
for,
but
our
children
is
still
suffering.
Our
families
are
still
suffering,
so
you
can
still
write
this
down,
but,
as
speaking
of
a
grandmother,
that's
fighting
for
her
grandchildren
to
stay
out
the
system.
That
knows
that
everything
that
was
done
wrong
when
everything
is
on
video.
I
have
video
of
police
grabbing,
not
letting
you
in.
F
I
have
video
of
your
dhs
officer,
saying
if
she
come
and
show
paperwork
of
another
child,
that's
not
nothing.
I've
had
videos
showing
that
my
home
was
never
in
homer
danger,
that's
on
video,
but
none
of
this
was
looked
at.
So
how
can
you
say
that
y'all
look
at
this
stuff
and
y'all?
Take
it
into
question
and
yeah.
F
That's
what
they
are
told
by
the
commissioner:
that's
what
they
said
we
doing
by
a
handbook
like
I
have
this
paper
that
you
know
that's
blank
and
if
I
fill
it
out-
and
I
say
well,
these
are
the
laws,
and
so
this
is
what
we're
going
by,
but
it's
not
correct
what
they
doing
is
not
they
violating
human
rights.
They
ride
like
in
every
right
of
the
law
of
going
in
schools.
Of
of
you
know,
just
a
parent
should
be
their
present,
whether
y'all
want
them
there
or
not.
Children
be
scared.
F
So
you
cannot
just
do
this.
Children
lie,
children,
say
things
you
could
bring
your
child
through
and
take
them
away,
but
a
child
you
just
cannot
just
take
a
child
without
investigating
and
that's
the
most
important
thing.
So
my
question
is,
instead
of
keep
getting
state
funding
for
everything,
because
that's
what
it
seemed
like.
Your
need
state
funded
for
everything
when
y'all
get
free
grants,
y'all
get
bids,
y'all
get
clothing,
y'all
get
vipers,
y'all
get
billions
of
dollars
for
free.
F
Before
this,
they
even
give
you
our
money
and
these
children
still
walking
around
with
bags.
I
see
children
that's
on
a
run
from
the
terminals,
commissioner,
from
dhs,
that's
crying
out
for
help,
that's
getting
murdered
in
our
city.
What
are
you
are
going
to
do
to
change
that?
What
what
changes
are
y'all
going
to
do
to
help
these
teens?
That's
that's
crying
out
for
help.
We
had
a
hearing.
These
teens
were
so
angry
when
councilman
david,
always
speaking,
they
not
even
realizing
that
he
is
not
the
enemy,
dhs
you're
super
you're!
You
are
the
enemy.
F
Because
of
you
want
to
protect
these
children,
you
will
go
out
and
hear
what
they
want
to
say.
You
will
call
on
people
like
me.
That's
just
crying
out
for
help.
You
want
to
see
different
organizations.
That's
not
just
ended
for
no
funding,
that's
in
it
for
the
help
of
the
children
to
protect
the
child.
Isn't
that
your
job,
commissioner,
the
well-being
of
a
child
to
protect.
F
My
question
is:
what
are
you
going
to
do
to
help
make
a
difference
and
would,
when
are
y'all
going
to
do
it
without
so
much
funding?
Why
do
y'all
need
so
much
funding
when
the
children
are
still
going
through
the
same
and
families
are
still
going
through
the
same
things,
even
poverty
issues,
a
child
shouldn't
be
taken
for
poverty
issues,
so
I
close
on
my
questions
for
now.
G
So
I
will
certainly
attempt
to
answer
you
know
at
least
some
of
the
questions
I
made
to
be
more
general
in
terms
of
miss
bryant,
and
so
what
I
will
say,
miss
bryant
is
that
you
are
exactly
right
in
that
families
are
fearful
and
they're,
fearful
of
dhs
they're,
fearful
of
child
protective
services,
because
they
are
fearful
that
their
loved
one
will
be
taken.
This
is
the
reason
why
we
are
changing
our
approach.
G
What
I
testified
to
we
know
that
removing
young
people
from
their
homes
is
extremely
traumatic,
not
only
for
the
child,
but
also
for
the
family,
and
so
in
order
for
a
removal
to
occur.
We
actually
now
require
dhs
social
workers
to
make
sure
that
they
conference
it
with
a
higher
level
individuals,
so
either
at
the
administrator
or
the
directive
level,
so
that
a
decision
can
be
made
whether
or
not
that
young
person
has
to
be
moved
from
their
home.
G
Can
we
put
in
a
safety
plan
if
you
will
to
keep
that
young
person
in
his
or
her
home?
If
that
answer
is
no
and
that
we
cannot
do
a
safety
plan
that
this
child
will
continue
to
be
unsafe,
then
we
consult
with
our
law
department
and
reference
to
that,
and
then
we
can
start
with
the
courts
as
well,
and
so
that's
the
decision
that's
made
when
a
young
person
is
removed
from
their
home
again
extremely
traumatic,
so
traumatic.
G
G
That's
a
separate
track,
then
what
you
also
indicated
in
terms
of
poverty
again,
this
is
really
the
support
line.
We
want
to
separate
willful
neglect
versus
poverty,
and
so
we
want
to
walk
alongside
families,
in
addition
with
our
other
city
departments,
so
that
we
can
offer
resources
to
family
in-home
services.
I
testify
that
in
any
given
day
as
of
today,
the
kuwas
are
servicing
two
thousand
children
in
their
own
homes,
providing
in-home
services
and
that
we
also
diverted
over
five
thousand
children
from
the
dhs
hotline.
A
Commissioner,
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
very
much.
Miss
brian
does
any
other.
A
member
of
the
special
committee
have
a
comment
or
question.
E
If
this
pro,
as
I
said
at
the
outset,
there's
been
some
real
progress
here,
you're
trying
to
make
more,
as
you
know,
no
system
can
prevent
every
horrific
tragedy.
I
mentioned
before
that
the
one
we're
talking
about
now
occurred
when
philadelphia
was
taking
away
many
more
children.
The
only
acceptable
goal
for
such
tragedies
is
zero,
but
our
reach
will
always
exceed
our
grasp.
There
will
be
others,
and
I
think
it's
pretty
clear
if
dhs
continues
to
move
in
this
better
direction,
a
direction
that
in
fact
makes
all
children
safer.
E
E
G
Absolutely
mr
rich,
mr
wexter
excellent
question,
and
really
that's
why
we
need
partners
right.
So
if
we
need
partners
at
the
table
is
not
enough
for
me
as
the
dhs
commissioner
to
stay
the
course,
I
will
continue
to
stay
the
course,
because
this
is
the
right
thing
to
do
which
for
children,
youth
and
families.
G
However,
I
also
need
my
other
city
counterparts
and
stakeholders
to
also
support
me
in
that.
I
need
advocates
to
support
being
that.
I
need
the
courts
to
support
being
that
multiple
stakeholders,
because
we
are
concerned,
but
our
data
has
proven
that
we
didn't
resort
back
to
that.
We
are
concerned
that
when
there
is
a
high
profile
case,
if
you
will,
that
is
in
the
paper
in
public
that
then
we
will
get
you.
I
know
you
heard
about
placement
panic.
G
We
don't
ever
want
to
go
back
to
placement
panic,
and
this
is
why
we
put
systems
in
place
so
that
there
is
a
higher
level
of
approval
in
terms
of
order
protective
custody,
as
well
as
our
consultations
with
the
law
department,
as
well
as
the
court
before
them
removals.
I
also
want
to
say
this
as
well.
G
We
also
embarked
on
this
initiative
called
family
engagement
initiative,
that
is
in
concert
with
the
administrative
office
of
pennsylvania
courts,
as
well
as
our
philadelphia
family
courts
and
which
we
are
also
trying
to
transform
how
we
engage
families
and
so
there's
three
components.
There
is
revised
family.
Finding
that
says.
Not
only
do
you
county
worker
should
identify
relatives
kin
for
young
people
and
families,
but
also
advocates
so
parent
advocates.
G
G
Let's
get
the
family
together
their
support
system
together,
so
that
we
can
come
up
with
a
plan
before
a
removal
and
the
third
component
is
enhanced
legal
representation,
and
so
those
are
the
three
components
we
actually
embarked
on
that
journey
in
february
of
2020
the
pandemic
hit,
we
had
to
take
a
little
sunset.
However,
we
have
been
fully
implemented
the
whole
kua
system,
as
well
as
dhs
and
the
court
system
as
of
december
of
2021.
So
we
are
looking
forward
to
the
progress
around
the
family
engagement
initiative.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
have
some
questions.
Let
me
just
start
with
some
statements.
I
read
in
the
paper.
Oh
I'm
sorry.
I
just
see
that
our
sheriff
has
questions
sheriff
palau.
Why
don't
you
go
ahead.
H
Good
morning,
commissioner,
and
thank
you
for
coming
on
and
bringing
the
information
first
of
all,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
the.
B
G
A
Thank
you
very
much
sheriff
all
right,
so
I'm
going
to
start
by
reading
a
couple
of
statements
that
were
made
in
the
paper,
so
I
can't
say
that
they
actually
made
them,
but
they're
reported
in
a
paper
nancy
winkler,
an
attorney
who
is
the
plaintiff's
attorney
in
in
several
cases,
stated
staff
turnover
and
lack
of
training
allowed
red
flags
to
be
ignored,
and
this
is
in
reference
to
the
turning
point
for
children
matter,
frank,
cervone,
executive
director
of
support
center
for
child
advocates
said
a
revolving
door
of
case
managers
often
means
no
permanent
person
is
attached
to
a
case
which
can
lead
to
mistakes.
A
There
is
the
top,
which
is
you
and
I'm
very
encouraged,
and
and
and
so
pleased
to
hear
your
statements,
which
I
will
say,
is
different
than
what
I've
heard
in
the
past,
and
so
I
certainly
thank
you
for
that.
I
thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
you
know
in
this
new
direction.
A
A
You
know
the
challenges
that
you
have
the
obstacles
you
have
to
overcome,
but,
unlike
organ
other
organizations
that
have
to
filter
down
their
message,
get
past
cultural
muscle
memory,
ways
of
doing
things,
you
also
have
to
manage
ten
commun
community
umbrella
agencies
that
then
coordinate
other
providers,
which
seems
to
be
certainly
a
very
difficult
task.
A
What
miss
bryant
is
talking
about
in
her
comments
in
question,
I
believe,
is
the
difference
between
the
theoretical
workings,
the
aspiration
versus
the
reality.
A
And
we
have
looked
at
many
cases
where
people
have
presented
evidence
that
verified
what
they
were
saying
is
true
and
some
who
are
continuing
or
actually
most
of
whom
are
continuing
under
these
challenges,
for
example,
someone
who
has
two
brothers
it
as
foster
children,
those
are
her
nephews
but
is
denied
the
sister.
A
The
sister
would
be
joined
with
the
brothers,
but
cannot
be
approved
as
a
foster
care
provider
for
her
niece
to
to
join
the
sister
with
her
brothers,
but
is
then
asked
to
be
a
foster
care
provider
for
yet
another
child.
A
In
the
case
of
miss
bryant,
I
did
see
the
videotapes.
There
was
no.
A
Notification
of
her
rights,
there
were
uniform
police
officers
in
the
middle
of
the
afternoon,
and
there
was
a
paper
that
they
claimed
was
a
court
order.
That
was
not
that
is
on
videotape
and
other
things.
These
this,
I
understand
is,
is
not
something
you
would
have
direct
knowledge
of.
This
is
you
know
the
operation,
and,
quite
frankly,
this
took
place
before
you
were,
commissioner.
A
We
did
go
through
many
of
these
cases,
and
certainly
I
appreciate
that
you're
addressing
that
we
would
like
to
have
a
better
system.
My
question
directly
relating
to
the
turning
points
situation.
A
So
many
of
the
the
the
points
of
contact
with
children
and
families
are
through
kua
agencies
or
other
providers.
Is
there
a
minimum
qualification
their
staff
has
to
have?
In
other
words,
do
they
have
to
have
a
a
degree
in
social
work?
Do
they
have
to
have
a
certificate,
or
can
they
be
a
high
school
graduate
without
any
training
in
social
work
and
be
hired
to
go
interact
with
families
when
an
allegation
or
a
concern
or
anything
comes
through
in
terms
of
being
caseworkers
is?
G
Yes,
thank
you
for
their
question.
Council
member-
oh,
oh
in
terms
of
cool
case
manager,
so
cool
case
managers,
cool
supervisors
in
all
levels
of
the
coolest
staff,
who
are
case
carrying
staff,
do
have
to
have
at
the
minimum
the
social.
The
core
case.
Managers
have
to
have
a
bachelor's
degree,
so
a
bachelor's
degree
in
social
work
or
a
related
field.
When
we
say
related
field,
sometimes
it's
human
services,
sometimes
it's
sociology
or
psychology,
and
so
yes,
that
is
comparable
to
a
dhs
social
worker
as
well
bachelor's
level
and
social
worker
or
related
field.
G
They
have
to
have
a
master's
degree,
so
a
master's
degree
in
social
work
or
a
related
field,
and
so
the
expectations
for
a
dhs
social
worker
and
the
coolest
social
worker,
in
terms
of
their
degrees,
is
similar
in
terms
of
the
training
for
dhs
and
kua
case
managers.
The
training
is
also
the
same.
There
is
a
state-wide
curriculum
in
which
all
dhs
social
workers,
all
cool
case
managers,
social
workers
and
supervisors-
have
to
be
certified
as
direct
services
workers.
This
is
a
hundred
and
twenty
hours
versus
training
of
120
hours
worth
of
training.
G
That
training
actually
occurs
by
our
dhs
university,
and
so
I
have
masters
prepared
master
level
supervisors
who
provide
training
to
both
the
kua
case
managers,
as
well
as
the
dhs
staff.
So
the
curriculum
is
the
same
and
when
I
say
the
120
hours,
that
is
just
120
hours
of
the
statewide
training.
We
also
do
some
supplemental
trainings
around
court
simulation,
for
example,
in
which
we
have
a
mock
court
hearing,
so
that
dhs
and
kua
staff
know
how
to
present
themselves
in
court.
Any
initiative
that
comes
down
the
pike
family
engagement
initiative
that
I
spoke
about.
G
That
also
is
additional
training,
training
on
substance,
abuse,
training
on
sex
abuse
and
so
there's
also
additional
training.
So
they
get
the
initial
120
hours,
work
for
training
and
then
every
year
dhs
social
workers,
supervisors,
cooing,
social
workers
and
supervisors
also
have
to
have
a
minimum
of
at
least
20
hours
of
additional
training
each
year.
A
So
that's
how
it's
supposed
to
work.
Maybe
it
does
work
that
way.
Do
you
have
a
process
to
verify
that,
in
fact,
a
provider
actually
does
that
that
every
person
that
is
interacting
with
the
family
is
so
credentialed.
G
Absolutely,
and
so,
as
as
I
indicated
cool
case
managers,
we
do
the
training
their
training,
so
any
in
order
to
be
certified.
That
certification
goes
to
dhs
university
because
we
verify
that
this
particular
employee
completed
all
of
their
120
hours
worth
of
training.
There's
a
certificate
that
comes
of
completion
that
the
cool
case
manager
receives
after
each
training.
We
keep
a
database
in
order
to
monitor
that,
and
then
we
communicate
with
the
state
and
the
state
actually
does
the
grant
the
actual
certification.
G
So
yes,
every
court
case
manager,
every
dhs
social
worker
and
above
are
certified,
and
I
can
verify
that.
A
A
You
know,
kind
of
throughout
these
articles,
the
issue
of
burnout
of
of
lack
of
training
overburdened
overwhelmed.
You
know
difficulty
to
retain
staff
by
kua's.
I
don't
know-
and
I
don't
think
that's
true
of
dhs
itself,
but
it
seems
to
be
true
of
kua's
is:
is
that
nine
out
of
ten
coopers
have
this
kind
of
problem
with
staff
retention?
A
G
So
thanks
for
that
question,
and
so
I
will
speak
to
the
latest
coolest
scorecard,
so
the
latest
cool
scorecard
from
fy21.
You
know
again,
that
is
our
transparent
document
in
terms
of
how
cools
are
performing
in
terms
of
the
workforce.
Are
you
referring
to
workforce?
G
We
had
four
kua's
who
were
ranked
either
competent,
so
three
bells
and
above
and
then
we
had
the
remaining
six
kua's
were
ranked
either
unsatisfactory
or
critical.
I
will
say
this:
I
do
not
believe
that
is
unique
to
the
kua
system.
Is
it
is
indicative
of
child
welfare.
Unfortunately,
I
testify
that
child
welfare
is
very,
very
difficult
work.
Hence
the
reason
why
we
want
to
clarify
the
rules
and
responsibilities
while
we
move
to
ioc
so
that
dhs
can
focus,
focus
on
investigations
and
the
coolers
can
focus
on
providing
ongoing
case
management
services.
G
That's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
moved
to
that
that
particular
model,
and
so
not
only
is
child
welfare
in
terms
of
the
turnover
rate.
So
the
national
turnover
rate
for
child
welfare
is
about
30
percent,
which
is
not
good
because
the
work
is
so
hard
and
so
critical,
and
so
what
we
have
done,
because
we
are
laser,
focused
on
making
sure
that
we
have
a
workforce
that
we
can
on
board
and
also
retain
is
that
we
did
develop
a
work
group
in
order
to
look
at
some
strategies
around.
G
How
do
you
retain
staff,
in
particular,
community
umbrella
agency
staff
and
provider
staff,
and
so
some
of
the
strategies
that
we
came
up
with
was
certainly
making
sure
that
there
is
a
work-life
balance,
so
work-life
balance,
making
sure
that
the
course
had
the
infrastructure
so
that
they're
more
of
a
support
to
their
staff.
Also,
we
meet
with
cool
leadership
regularly
in
order
to
review
their
strategies.
G
We
actually
have
practice
coaches
and
senior
learning
specialists
who
work
alongside
their
dhs
staff,
who
work
alongside
the
kua
case
managers
to
do
some
mentoring,
but
also
do
transfer
knowledge
because,
as
you
talked
about
the
training,
yes,
you
can
get
trained,
but
it
really
is
about
how
you
transfer
that
knowledge
and
make
sure
that
it
plays
out
on
the
ground
level.
We
did
sign
some
mousse
or
memorandum
understanding
what
universities
so
that
we
can
begin
to
strengthen
our
recruitment
of
kua
case
managers
as
well
as
some
tuition
reimbursement.
G
We
looked
at
their
salaries,
you
know
helping
profession,
professionals,
the
salaries
are
sometimes
low,
and
then
we
also
did
some
sign-on
bonuses
as
well
in
incentives,
so
workforce
and
workforce
retention
is
certainly
a
priority
of
myself
as
well
as
my
team.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
One
of
the
complaints
that
that
I
have
received
from
former
co-workers
is
that
they
felt
very
much
if
they
did
something
or
said
something
that
that
was
not.
A
Dhs
workers-
I
I
believe
they
are
part
of
a
well,
I
know
they're
part
of
collective
bargaining
unit
and
they
have
an
ability
to
go
to
the
inspector
general
and
other
means
to
you
know
protect
themselves
if
they
are,
for
example,
in
disagreement
with
their
supervisors
or
if
they
feel
pressured
to
do
something,
they
don't
think
they
should
in
terms
of
the
cool
workers
themselves.
G
G
We
do
protect
them
in
terms
of
anonymity
when
they
do
make
a
report,
and
then
we
investigate
accordingly,
and
so
we
do
do
that
in
terms
of
the
salaries
that
you
indicated.
So
we
do
provide
guidance
to
the
course
in
terms
of
salary
ranges
to
make
sure
that
the
salaries
are
also
consistent
with
dhs
salaries.
G
So
they
do
so,
they
provide
a
monthly
invoice
to
the
department,
and
so
you
can
see
the
salary
of
their
employees,
so
they
do
report
that
on
a
monthly
basis.
A
C
Thank
you,
councilman
and
thank
you,
miss
ellie,
commissioner,
for
all
of
your
hard
work
in
this
very
difficult
area,
but
I
just
want
to
follow
up
on
councilman
o's
line
of
questioning,
and
I
think
I
mentioned
this
during
the
budget
hearings
that
we
had
a
few
weeks
ago,
and
I
guess
the
first
thing
I
wanted
to
say
is
that
dhs,
as
we
know,
is
just
really
a
massive
system.
It's
it's.
It's
pretty
big.
C
We
spend
a
lot
of
money
in
dhs
and
but
it's
a
it's
a
really
big
system
and
so
that,
with
a
with
any
big
system,
you
know
there's
going
to
be
errors.
There's
going
to
be
issues,
and
you
know
it
was
massive
before
we
went
to
a
cooler
system
and
there
were
errors,
and
so
it
would
one
would
think
that
obviously
the
the
the
next
logical
step
would
be.
You
know
it's
the
the
errors
continue
and,
in
my
opinion,
have
likely
been
multiplied.
C
I
heard
councilman,
oh
ask
about
salaries.
I
know
you
said
that
they
were
comparable,
but
going
to
a
cooler
system
was
a
cost
saving
measure
by
the
city
of
philadelphia.
It
really,
in
my
opinion,
didn't
take
into
account
the
needs
of
this
vulnerable
population,
but
it
was
a
cost
saver.
I
saw
you
shake
your
head.
No,
you
disagree
with
that.
G
G
We
moved
to
the
cooler
system,
as
I
testified
to
the
child
welfare
review
panel
that
was
put
in
place
by
former
mayor
street,
came
up
with
37
recommendations
about
dhs
and
the
state
of
child
welfare,
and
so
we
implemented
at
that
particular
time.
35
of
the
recommendations.
G
The
two
remaining
recommendations,
which
was
the
impetus
to
the
coolest
system
or
improving
outcomes
for
children,
was
that
we
needed
to
be
more
of
a
present
in
the
community,
a
presence
in
the
community
that
was
one
they
actually
recommended
that
we
just
put
one
office
in
a
high
risk
area,
but,
as
we
have
testified
to-
and
you
know,
is
that
the
city
of
philadelphia
is
high
risk
in
general,
particularly
around
when
you
think
about
poverty,
and
then
the
second
recommendation
was
around
our
blurred
rules
prior
to
improving
outcomes
for
children.
C
G
The
city
didn't
save
money
and
if
you
want
more
specific
specifics,
I
do
have
the
cfo,
so
the
city
didn't
didn't
save
any
money
as
a
result
of
moving
to
improvement
outcomes
for
children.
C
C
Okay,
let
me
ask
you
so
so:
improving
outcomes
for
children,
or,
as
I
call
it,
the
cooler
system
was
brought
here
by
a
former
commissioner.
Is
that
accurate
or
was
that?
Is
that
not
accurate.
G
Yes,
no,
it
was
a
former
commissioner
at
the
time
who
introduced
improvement
outcomes
for
children
based
on
really
stakeholders,
so
stakeholder
engagement,
looking
at
other
systems.
So
yes,
so.
C
When
the
former
commissioner
brought
the
program
here,
is
it
accurate
that
that
this
former
commissioner
then
went
to
work
for
the
national
organization
that
was
pushing
this
program?
Is
that
accurate.
C
It
was
the
casey
foundation.
Is
that
accurate.
G
I
will
tell
you
my
record
selection.
I
was
certainly
I
was
operations
director
at
the
time.
I
would
not
say
in
all
of
my
conversations
that
casey
family
programs
was
pushing
moving
to
improvement
outcomes
for
children,
because
it
was
based
on
the
child
welfare
review
panel
and
the
recommendations,
particularly
around
the
blurred
roles
and
responsibilities
and
being
a
present
in
the
community.
So
it's
my
understanding
that
members
of
the
child
welfare
review
panel
in
those
recommendations,
as
well
as
the
meeting
with
over
150
stakeholders.
C
But
okay,
because
because
it's
you
know
recently
been
brought
to
light
that
or-
and
I
don't
know
actually
I
shouldn't
say
it's
brought
to
light
because
I
don't
know
this
to
be
factual.
So
that's
why
I'm
asking
on
the
record,
if
the
former
commissioner,
who
introduced
the
city
of
philadelphia
to
improving
outcomes
for
children,
then
went
to
be
and
become
employed
by
the
very
supporters
of
improving
outcomes
for
children
that
have
been
working
to
move
this
model
into
not
just
philadelphia
but
into
other
cities
as
well.
G
I
don't
know
my
recollection
is
that
there
was
not
one
individual
or
one
organization
that
was
pushing
improving
outcomes
for
children.
So
I
will
say
I
will
say
that
I
had
the
opportunity
to
share
at
the
particular
time
I
was
operations
director,
and
so
I
chaired
the
practice
work
group
that
consisted
of
providers,
union
leadership,
family
members,
and
so
our
charge
was
really
around
crafting
and
developing
a
model
that
will
address
a
community
presence
and
will
address
the
blurred
rules
and
responsibilities.
G
So
that's
why
I
kept
saying
that
I
don't,
in
terms
of
one
entity,
pushing
the
improvement
outcomes
for
children,
at
least
at
my
level
and
all
of
my
leading
of
the
work
group.
It
wasn't
one
entity,
okay,.
C
Okay,
but
annie
casey
was
involved
in
they.
They
were
one
of
the
agencies.
C
Okay,
so
they
were
active
in
working
with
the
city
to
bring
the
program
in
okay,
all
right,
so
so
we'll
follow
up
on
that
and
try
to
get
some
clarity,
because
I
do
think
if
what
we've
been
alerted
to
is
accurate,
then
that's
quite
troublesome
that
you
know
program
could
have
been
brought
in
by
a
commissioner
who
later
was
employed.
It's
almost.
D
C
I
wanted
to
go
back
really
quickly
to
what
we
invest
for
ioc
and
what
we've
invested
before
that
with
the
cool
system,
and
I
don't
know
that
you
have
or
before
that
prior
to
the
course
system.
I
don't
know
that
you
have
these
numbers
with
you,
but
I'll
tell
you
what
I'd
like
to
know
and
if
you
could
get
that
to
myself
and
my
co-chair.
That
would
be
great
I'd
like
to
know
how
much
the
what
what
your
budget
has
been
prior
to
the
cool
system
which
came
in
what
year.
G
Yes
implemented,
the
first
coolest
stood
up
in
2013.
C
13,
okay,
so
then
we've
got
nine
years
of
history
of
in
terms
of
how
much
we
spent
on
kua's
I'd
like
the
prior
nine
years
before
that
to
see
exactly
how
much
we
spent
on
dhs
operations
from
from
the
budget
that
we
have
here
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
if
you
could
compile
those
numbers.
So
just
so,
we
can
see
comparatively
what
we
spent
also,
if
you
could
give
us
some
sense
of
how
much
or
how
many
children
were
in
that
network
over
all
of
those
years.
C
Okay,
so
I
think
that
those
details
are
important
if
you
could
get
that
to
us.
I
think
that
that
would
help
us
to
you
know
just
be
better
aware
of
exactly
how
much
we're
spending
what
we're
spending
it
on
and
I'm
I'm
just
not
convinced
that
we're
not
spending
less,
that
we're
spending
more,
but
but
you'll
gather
the
numbers,
and
you
will,
let
us
know
sure,
counsel.
C
G
A
C
A
Much
thank
you
very
much
co-chair.
I'm
just
going
to
follow
up
on
something
my
co-chairs
kind
of
kind
of
raise
and
I'll
put
it
this
way
in
terms
of
my
opinion
and
thoughts
on
it,
and
really
just
for
your
for
your
response,
you
are
frozen
so
that.
A
A
A
Yeah,
I
know
this
wi-fi
here,
so
this
is
a
a
question
in
the
form
of
an
opinion
and
and-
and
I
believe
this
predates
your
commissionership
according
to
the
newspaper
in
the
case
that
we're
at
the
center
of
our
resolution-
three
young
girls
with
a
history.
I
I
assume
a
known
history
of
physical
and
sexual
abuse,
four-year
history
returned
to
the
father
who
continued
this
physical
and
sexual
abuse
in
very
expanded
ways.
A
It
appears
that
there
were
five
caseworkers
and
two
supervisors,
but
that,
because
of
turnover
and
loss
of
continuity,
that
somehow
the
history
and
understanding
of
what
was
going
on
with
these
girls
was
lost.
It
was
disjointed
until
the
point
where
two
of
the
sisters
were
returned
to
the
father
and
then
a
third
sister
was
then
a
place
again
with
the
father
where
they
were
abused
for
another
year.
A
And
what
I
wonder
in
in
relationship
to
this
conversation
is
the
good
intention
and
the
good
theory
of
being
grassroots,
becoming
very
broad
versus
very
narrow
and
somewhere
along
the
line,
sandusky
creating
state
legislative
mandates
that
required
dhs
and
social
workers
to
undertake
certain
type
of
actions,
but
made
it
very
broad-
and
I
might
be
quoting
richard
wechsler
when
you're
looking
for
a
needle
in
a
haystack
you'd
want
to
make
the
haystack
bigger
and
bigger.
A
So
in
a
sense,
more
money
may
have
been
spent
on
the
bigger
haystack,
but
less
money
on
dealing
with
the
needle,
in
other
words,
focused
on
those
cases
where
there's
substantiated
evidence
of
reasonable
suspicion
or
evidence
of
actual
abuse
versus
rumors
allegations
speculation,
a
mandated
reporter
who
doesn't
want
to
lose
their
jobs.
So
they
report
everything.
A
You
know
in
my
conversations
with
your
predecessor,
I
was
told
that
the
policy
is
more
is
better
and
that
gut
feelings
are
a
basis
for
reporting,
and
I
have
heard
that
you
know
in
in
looking
at
the
system,
and
the
justification
was
more,
is
better,
better,
be
safe
than
sorry.
A
What
I,
what
I
countered
was
you
know,
threatening
people's
livelihoods,
so
that
they
should
pull
the
fire
alarm
just
to
be
sure
that
they
don't
lose
their
job
means
that
we
have
overburdened
the
system
systemically
and
so
the
more
that
we
investigate
needlessly
the
more
we
put
children
at
risk,
the
more
money
we
put
into
it,
the
less
money
we're
putting
in
to
those
social
workers,
dhs
workers,
who,
probably
I
think
you'll
agree-
are
underpaid,
who
probably
are
overworked.
A
Who
probably
find
you
know
their
jobs
very,
very
stressful,
and
you
know
so
much
time
spent
on
things
that
are
that
are
not
fruitful
in
actually
helping
to
protect
children
and
and
and
repair
families
and
help
families
in
need
that
get
through
poverty.
A
You
know
broad
versus
narrow
and-
and
you
know,
some
of
that,
of
course
is-
is
the
state
legislature
and
and
kind
of
a
reaction
to
sandusky
things
like
that,
but
it
seems
we
have
a
system
from
what
I
understand
a
a
complaint
on
child
line,
mandates
and
investigation.
A
There
is
a
some
difference
between
child
protective
services
and
general
protective
services
when
it
comes
to
complaints
mandated
reporters
who
believe
that
they
shouldn't
report
something,
but
they
don't
want
to
be
second
guessed
12
months
later
and
be
put
in
the
rubber
room
or
in
the
school
district
or
be
being
taken
out
of
being
a
nurse
or
a
doctor
and
a
system
where,
even
if
a
doctor
and
a
nurse
determine
that
there
is
no
reason
to
report,
a
social
worker
can
just
simply
report.
There's
no
there's
no
consensus.
A
A
They
are
returned,
despite
a
judge's
order
requiring
a
psychological
evaluation,
no
real
place
for
them
to
go
with
this
person,
criminal
record
and
open
case
it
it
in
in
a
case
like
that.
What
is
the
explanation
that
that
you
might
surmise
not
in
that
particular
case,
but
in
cases
like
that?
G
So
thanks
for
that
question,
council
member,
oh,
and
certainly
my
questions
will
be
more
general.
As
you
know,
I
am
bound
by
confidentiality
law,
so
it
will
be
more.
You
know
more
general,
and
so
the
first
thing
that
I
will
say
to
you,
as
you
refer
to
jerry
sandusky
and
the
the
changes
to
the
child
protective
services
law.
G
As
I
indicated,
we
had
a
tremendous
impact
on
the
number
of
reports
that
came
into
our
hotline
and
the
number
and
investigations
in
2015.,
so
much
so
that
we
had
to
lift
look
at
our
infrastructure
and
then
we
also
had
to
look
at
our
continuum
and
so
in
2017
we
actually
created
what
we
refer
to
as
field
screening
units
on
the
hotline,
so
that
when
there
were
general
protective
services
reports,
we
can
actually
take
a
second
look
at
those
reports,
because
we
know
that
oftentimes
general
protective
services
reports
refer
to
a
service
need
right
for
families,
the
child
protective
services
reports,
because
there
are
allegations
of
physical
abuse
and
sexual
abuse.
G
We
would
certainly
review
those
reports
just
to
make
sure
it
was
consistent
with
the
law,
but
more
often
than
not.
Those
reports
were
accepted
and
they
were
transferred
to
our
investigation
unit
for
full
investigative
investigations,
not
child
protective
services
reports,
and
so
what
we
do
is
we
actually
will
dispatch
a
worker
from
our
hotline
to
make
an
assessment
of
the
family
as
opposed
to
an
investigation,
to
determine
what
is
the
service
need?
If
there
is
no
service
need,
we
close
it
right
there
on
the
hotline.
G
G
In
terms
of
how
do
you
address,
you
know
things
in
the
future,
I
will
say
a
few
things.
The
first
thing
that
I
will
say
is
that
you
need
a
stable
and
skilled
and
trained
workforce,
and
so
I
talked
about
their
training.
I
also
talked
about
some
of
the
transfer
learning
that
both
practice
coaches
and
senior
learning
specialists
seasoned
dhs
employees
do
with
the
coolest
staff.
G
I
also
will
say
that
we
have
to
create
a
situation
in
which
young
people
feel
that
they
can
trust
at
least
someone
right,
so
even
one
adult
so
the
power
of
one.
We
talk
about
trusting
one
adult
so
that
there
can
be
some
disclosures.
If
there
is,
you
know
physical
or
sexual
abuse,
so
that
the
abuse
won't
continue
to
occur.
That's
another
thing
that
we
had
to
look
at
and
we
had
to
look
at
enhancing
some
of
our.
You
know
training.
G
A
Thank
you
very
much,
commissioner.
I
I
see
that
nadine
bazar
would
like
to
make
a
comment
followed
by
a
council
member
bass
co-chair.
She
would
like
to
have
one
more
question.
Mr
bazar.
D
D
It's
good
to
see
you
good
morning,
it's
good
to
see
you
going
to
make
a
few
comments.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
congratulate
you,
commissioner,
and
and
not
for
necessarily
the
reasons
that
you
might
think,
but
more
for
some
of
the
questions
that
you've
had
to
address.
D
You've
had
to
answer
questions
on
economic
questions,
the
economy,
salary
training,
not
just
of
dhs
social
workers
and
case
managers,
but
kua
social
workers
and
case
managers.
The
curriculum
required
for
those
case
managers,
their
educational
background,
you've
had
to
answer
questions
with
regard
to
mandated
reporters
and
downstream
reporting
requirements.
I
think
mr
wechsler,
I
won't
use
the
word
grilled,
but
I
think
I
might
have
just
used
the
word
grilled
grilled
you
a
bit
on
that
you've
had
to
answer
questions
about
childline,
basically,
the
entire
kua
system.
D
D
That
being
said,
I
am
mindful
of
the
name
of
this
committee
dealing
with
child
separation
in
philadelphia,
so
I
I
applaud
the
decrease
in
the
number
of
children
that
have
entered
placement,
the
the
maybe
also
converse
of
that
or
what
what
that
means
is
that
there's
less
family
separation
with
the
number
of
kids,
one
decrease
in
the
number
of
kids
entering
the
system
or
placement
and
two
the
increase
in
the
number
of
children
that
are
being
placed
with
kin.
So
I
applaud
you
and
your
team
on
that
effort.
D
I
think
I
think
it's
wonderful,
but
I
think
we
can
still
strive-
or
perhaps
all
of
us
can
strive
to
see
that
number
improve.
I
guess
I
would
not
strive.
I
would
just
watch
with
that
said.
D
What
is
the
plan
for
the
future
to
continue
to
improve
those
numbers,
possibly
one
in
decreasing
the
number
of
so
I'm
going
to
ask
the
question
and
then
I'm
going
to
make
some
suggestions,
one
decreasing
the
number
of
children
that
are
separated
from
their
families
and
to
increasing
the
number
of
staffing
or
people
so
that
the
proportionality
of
cases
that
an
individual
handles
might
decrease.
So
that
they
could
improve
the
quality
of
of
care
provided,
so
I
thank
you
and
I
love
that
question.
D
I
will
not
ask
for
your
expertise
in
any
other
category,
as
you've
certainly
been
questioned
on
that
in
about
a
dozen
different
categories.
G
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
that
question,
and
so
our
goal
is
really
to
stay
the
course
we
put
in
the
infrastructure
in
order
to
support
families,
so
we
put
that
infrastructure
on
the
front
end.
We
also
have
that
infrastructure
built
into
our
intake
and
investigation,
so
they
can
also
divert
families
from
the
formal
child
welfare
system,
and
we
built
it
in
on
the
back
end
in
that,
if
a
family
is
receiving
in-home
services
or
placement
services,
they
can
also
use
our
prevention
services
to
keep
the
the
stabilization
and
so
we'll
continue
on
that
course.
G
We
also
want
to
continue
implementing
and
planning
on
our
support
line
again,
so
that
we
can
offer
primary
prevention
services.
This
requires
us
to
have
a
coordinated
and
integrated
approach
with
other
city
departments,
and
so
at
the
table
with
us
is
the
department
of
behavioral
health,
community,
behavioral
health
office
of
homeless
services.
G
G
We
could
not
look
at
the
entries
into
the
child
welfare
system
without
taking
a
look
at
the
disproportionality
and
the
on
the
over
representation
of
black
children
in
the
child
welfare
system.
We
know
a
lot
of
this
is
as
a
result
of
disinvestment
in
communities
again.
This
is
why
the
reason
why
we
have
is
a
community
based
approach,
but
also
because
we
didn't
have
resources
readily
available
in
order
to
offer
prevention
services
upstream.
G
The
other
thing
that
I
testify
to
is
really
around
looking
at
our
internal
policies,
so
we
have
to
look
at
our
internal
policies
and
our
processes
to
determine
if
they
have
an
anti-racist
lens,
and
so
we
have
the
expertise
of
the
center
for
study
of
social
policies,
because
if
we're
not
getting
it
right,
we
want
to
get
it
right.
So
that
means
assessing
our
policies
and
rewriting
our
policies
and
making
sure
that
the
policies
are
actually
being
operationalized
on
the
ground
level
by
our
dhs,
as
well
as
our
kua
staff.
G
The
other
thing
that
I
will
make
reference
to
again
is
really
around
our
family
engagement
initiative,
getting
ahead
of
the
removal
so
getting
ahead
of
the
separation
by
way
of
crisis,
rapid
response
meetings
in
order
so
that
the
family
can
come
together
and
they
can
develop
a
plan
in
order
to
keep
young
people
in
their
home
and
keep
the
services
in
the
home
with
the
young
person
in
terms
of
the
workforce,
which
is
very
challenging.
G
As
I
talked
about
nationally
in
terms
of
child
welfare
workforce,
our
goal
is
to
continue
to
help
kua's
recruit
so
recruit
on
board.
Make
sure
that
we
continue
to
look
at
the
workload
to
make
it
easier
for
kualas
to
be
able
to
provide
quality
services
as
well
as
dhs
staff.
Our
ratio
as
it
stands
in
terms
of
kua
case
managers
is
10
families
to
one.
So
we
actually
fund
a
10
to
1
ratio,
because
we
recognize
the
complexity
of
families
as
our
system
shrinks.
G
We
know
that
we
are
getting
families
that
may
be
more
at
need,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
also
a
manageable
workload.
So
I
hope
that
answers
your
questions,
but
we
will
certainly
stay
the
course.
C
Actually
it
might
be
just
a
little
bit
more
than
one
question,
but
I
I
wanted
to
go
back
to
who
wasn't
asking
about
oversight
for
cool
site
site
for
kua's
budgets.
Do
you
review
the
budget
of
a
course
that
we've
contracted
with
in
the
city.
G
We
do
so
we
review
the
budgets
of
kua's
and
we
also
perform
audits
of
the
cool
budgets
as
well.
So
yes,
how
often
do
you
be
on
it?
I
will
ask
the
cfo
nadine
parisi
to
answer
that
question.
Okay,
sure.
G
Officer
for
the
department
we
do,
we
do
a
thorough
review
and
we
meet
with
the
kuas
regularly
to
discuss
any
financial
matters
that
come
up
so
annually.
We
perform
an
audit.
We
also
do
random
sample.
E
C
Okay,
so
so
do
we
do
we
do
who's
make
profits?
Are
they
are
they
non-profit
organizations.
C
Okay,
so
there
is
no
profit
margin,
so
to
speak
of
no,
and
we
you
also
everything
everything
is
expensive.
So
do
we
have
it?
We
have
in
place
parameters
in
terms
of
what
you
know
what
salary
should
be,
what
executive
director
salary
should
be,
what
salaries
for
or
or
what
expenses
should
be
for
various
supplies,
materials
office,
space,
things
like
that.
So
so,
if
you
as
you
do
your
audit,
if
something
stood
out,
you
would
see
it
and
you
would
know
correct.
G
That's
correct
so
what
I
would
say
to
that
is
we're
not
overly
prescriptive.
E
G
Providers,
but
we
do
a
review
to
make
sure
that
they're
all
the
costs
are
allowable
and
to
make
sure
that
they
make
sense
that
they're
applicable
to
the
actual
contract.
So
we
do
work
very
closely
with
the
kuis,
especially
the
kuas,
because
I
mean
all
of
our
providers,
but
especially
the
kuwas
because
of
the.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
okay
at
this
time,
I
will
let
the
commissioner
know
that
we
have
completed
our
questions.
Thank
you
so
much
for
bearing
with
us
throughout
this
process
again
remind
the
public
and
and
everybody
else
that
this
resolution
centers
around
kua's
in
particular
because
of
what
was
reported
in
the
newspaper
about
three
sisters
being
returned
to
a
abusive
father,
though
the
settlement
is
confidential
and
there
are
restrictions
on
talking
about
the
details
of
the
case.
A
We
are
looking
at
the
the
questions
around
the
oversight
and
how
the
how
the
system
can
be
improved
and
how
it's
managed.
We
certainly
have
learned
a
lot
from
the
commissioner,
and
so
I
thank
you
and
I'll
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
next
panel.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
I
C
A
A
statement
to
read
on
their
behalf,
okay,
for
for
the
record,
we
have
had
discussions
around
turning
point
providing
a
witness.
We
were
asked
to
set
back
this
hearing
30
days
to
allow
them
time
to
prepare,
and
it
appears
there's
no
witness.
A
I
did
receive
a
text
this
morning
that
they
would
send
a
written
statement,
but
we
have
not
received
a
written
statement
if
we
receive
it
any
time
before
the
end
of
this
hearing,
we
will
read
it
into
the
record
with
that
claire.
Could
you
call
the
next
panel.
A
And
david
crane,
thank
you.
Let
me
ask
is
pat
albright
and
david
crane
available
on
this
virtual
hearing.
A
I
Well,
thank
you,
and
my
name
is
pat
albright.
I'm
I'm
here
today
to
to
put
forward
a
statement
from
give
us
back
our
children
philadelphia
and
give
us
back.
Our
children
is
a
group
of
mothers,
grandmothers
and
other
family
members
and
supporters
formed
in
2006
to
work
together
to
fight
unjust
removals
of
children
and
to
change
dhs
policies
and
practices
which
led
to
those
removals.
I
They
would
build
the
child
welfare
industry
or
the
child
welfare
industrial
complex,
as
some
call
it
dishing
out
millions
of
dollars
to
agencies
and
to
agencies
and
increasing
the
financial
incentive
to
take
and
keep
children.
I
I
What
about
projecting
mothers
and
children's
right
not
to
be
abused?
Implementing
two
key
recommendations
from
the
special
committee
on
child
separations
are
key
to
addressing
to
addressing
that
one.
There
should
be
no
removal
of
children
from
victims
of
domestic
violence
and
two,
the
expressed
wishes
of
the
child
must
be
prioritized
over
the
professionals.
Determination
of
the
quote
unquote
best
interests
of
the
child.
I
I
It
would
project
the
crucial
and
fundamental
bond
between
mother
and
child,
including
that
of
breastfeeding,
which
gets
violently
shattered,
as
professor
dorothy
roberts
describes
in
her
book
shattered
bonds,
the
color
of
child
welfare,
some
forms
of
direct
cash
assistance
that
we
ask
city,
council
and
all
to
prioritize
include
the
reinstating
the
child
tax
credit
without
any
cuts
or
work
requirements
imposed.
We
are
already
working
and
every
mother
is
a
working
mother,
and
these
payments
must
go
directly
to
the
mother,
as
the
family
allowance
does.
I
In
other
countries,
also
adding
tax
credits
for
unpaid,
family,
caregivers,
caring
for
elders
and
such
as
from
is
proposed
in
the
worker
relief
and
credit
reform
act,
and
so
it's
caring
for
for
children
and
elders
and
others
such
as
the
proposed
in
the
worker
relief
and
credit
reform
act
in
congress,
which
redefines
work
to
include
that
of
caregiving,
establishing
a
guaranteed
income
payment
for
caregivers
and
supporting
house
bill
2015
and
senate
bill
918
in
harrisburg.
I
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Miss
albright
I'll
ask
mr
crane
to
identify
himself
and
then
provide
his
testimony
for
the
record.
B
Good
afternoon
now
my
name
is
david
crane.
I'm
a
16-year
shop
steward
with
askmelocal2187.
B
Part
of
that
is
that
we
represent
the
first
line
workers
at
dhs.
I
have
had
direct
experience
working
with
the
community
umbrella
agencies
from
their
from
their
inception.
To
current
day,
the
cures
have
not
been
able
to
support
or
represent
philadelphia's
neediest
children
and
families.
Contracting
out
completely
of
ongoing
services
has
not
worked
for
any
county
where
it
has
been
implemented.
B
B
I
have
been
a
county
worker
and
witnessed
firsthand
some
kua's.
They
have
completely
ignored
the
families
or
children
which
they
have
put
any
effort
for
the
need
which
had
they
put
any
effort
out.
The
need
for
placement
could
have
been
prevented
previously
when
dhs
was
providing
ongoing
services
in
a
family's
home,
they
were
responsible
for
every
child
to
the
mother
or
caregiver
in
the
household,
and
also,
and
also
often
had
to
initially
visit
other
children
out
of
the
household.
B
To
date
it
would
appear
that
available
placements
are
shrinking
and
more
children
are
spending
nights
in
the
dhs
childcare
room
prior
to
implementation.
It
was
rare
that
children
had
to
spend
the
night
in
the
dhs
childcare
room.
Currently
it's
expect
it
is
expected
that
multiple
youth
spend
the
night
in
the
dhs
child
care
room
which
is
in
an
office
building
with
rarely
enough
costs
for
for
these
children
to
sleep
on
and
overnight,
and
only
one
staff
member
to
watch
the
children.
B
B
There
have
been
ongoing
issues
with
a
lack
of
one
chain
of
command
to
deal
with
important
issues.
Currently
dhs
needs
coupon
management
approval
to
seek
a
corridor
to
place
a
child
that
is
active
with
cua
in
the
evening
and
early
mornings.
This
becomes
difficult
to
be
able
to
reach
cooper
management
often
makes
it
difficult
to
follow.
Court
orders
you've
become
frustrated
with
the
wait
time
at
the
dhs
child
care
room
and
will
aid
wall,
and
some
of
the
youth
are
already
involved
in
sex
trafficking
and
other
risky
behaviors.
B
Kua
has
had
a
high
turnover
rate
of
staff
even
prior
to
govind.
Families
will
call
in
into
dhs
thinking
that
tua
is
at
the
dhs
building
and
somehow
dhs
can
get
in
touch
with
kuistea
faster,
which
is
often
not
the
case.
Families
then
become
frustrated
and
do
not
believe
in
the
process
and
often
lose
out
on
different
services
and
and
opportunities
for
services.
Since
there's
not
one
chain
of
command,
and
even
when
there
is
communication,
there
is
not
an
agreement.
B
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
crane.
First,
let
me
open
it
up
to
my
colleagues,
starting
with
my
co-chair
council
bass.
If
there
are
any
questions
or
comments
directed
towards
this
panel.
C
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
panel
for
their
testimony
today.
I
just
you
know
it's
really
important
information.
I
want
to
thank
these
folks
for
being
here
because
they're
really
out
on
the
ground,
it's
the
boots
on
the
ground
that
we
need
to
get
that
can
really
give
us
a
lot
of
information
so-
and
that's
particularly
worked
with
david
crane
for
many
years
throughout
my
tenure
in
city
council
and
thank
him
for
all
of
his
work,
but
really
to
the
entire
panel.
A
E
Yes,
I
do.
I
know
you've
spoken
mostly
in
terms
of
the
the
failings
concerning
the
kuas
just
want
to
swing
back
to
something
that
I
raised
with
the
commissioner,
which
concerns
the
issue
of
backup
and
standing
firm
in
the
wake
of
potential
backlash,
and
I'm
wondering
if
you
and
your
fellow
frontline
workers
feel
that
you
are
getting
the
support
you
need
and
the
reason
I
ask
is
it
wasn't
always
the
case
back
in
2016.
E
As
I'm
sure
you
know,
vanessa
fields
of
your
union
testified
before
the
philadelphia
city
council
and
at
that
time
she
said
quote.
Workers
are
afraid
that
they're
going
to
be
disciplined
if
anything
goes
wrong
on
a
case,
so
their
thing
is
well,
I'm
just
going
to
take
the
kid
out
of
the
home
and
put
them
in
care.
That
way,
I
don't
have
to
worry
about
being
written
up
or
disciplined,
because
I
left
the
children
in
the
home
and
something
happened
to
them.
E
B
B
B
So
that
say,
if
we
can't
get
in
touch
with
the
could
well
on
call
if
it
falls
back
on
us
saying
say,
for
example,
on
the
midnight,
the
eighth
shift
on
four
out
of
the
seven
days
of
the
midnight
day,
there's
three
workers
and
on
certain
nights
we
have
eight
nine
ten
kids
in
the
child
care
room
with
one
child
care
worker.
B
So
then
we
have
to
make
up
for
that
burden
and
then,
when
and
and
and
it's
appeared
from
at
least
my
perspective
and
some
of
my
co-workers
that
when
it
gets
into
I
kind
of
want
to
say,
I
really
don't
say,
debate
but
kind
of
like
a
conversation
about
the
best
way
to
proceed.
Is
that
no
one
really
like
takes
into
account?
B
What
we
see
on
the
front
lines
say
so
kind
of,
like
I
hate
to
make
the
the
comparison
but
say
for
the
police,
for
example,
if
they
would
request
a
sergeant
or
a
or
or
a
quote,
unquote
white
shirt
to
show
up.
They
show
up
right
where
it,
where
we're
where,
when
we
request
say
for
resistance
that
person
in
our
management
is
not
there,
so
they.
B
So
you
know
it's
kind
of
working
off
of
like
who's
actually
seeing
it
and
talking
to
the
families
versus
who's
not
doing
it
and
and
I'd
like
to
think
over
the
course
of
time.
Some
some
of
those
issues
could
be
resolved.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
wechsler.
Are
there
other
questions
or
comments
by
members
of
this
committee
for
either
of
the
panelists.
A
I
don't
see
anyone
indicating
that
they
have
a
question
or
comment,
so
I
will
go
ahead
with
mine,
particularly
for-
and
I
thank
I
thank
you
both.
But
let
me
ask
mr
crane:
I
think
the
public
would
assume
that
dhs
workers,
caseworkers
or
whomever
would
have
more
clout
than
a
private
or
non-profit
worker,
because
they
are
public
employees,
but
from
what
you're
saying
you
cannot
have
a
lot
of
limitations,
it
sounds
like
with
the
current
system.
B
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
like
smaller
ways.
Maybe
things
could
be
improved?
One
thing
I
honestly
feel
bad
for
some
for
some
of
the
cool
workers,
because
even
the
ones
that
try,
at
least
in
theory,
they
get
our
hardest
cases.
B
So
so
they
they
get
the
cases
where
the
family's
already
accepted
for
service
or
the
or
the
child's
already
in
placement.
It's
not
like
on
a
case
basis
that
they
get
kind
of
saved,
like
a
quote.
Unquote
like
easy
case
right
and
there's
not
a
lot
of,
I
should
say.
Was
it
say
from
my
time
at
dhs,
I've
been
able
to
learn
the
best
from
the
people
who
I
work
around
and
you
know
and
that's
how
I
got
through
some
of
my
own
stuff.
B
I
don't
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
camaraderie
between
this,
they
have
a
dhs
and
staff
that
say
cuba
so
say.
For
example,
I
think
what
could
you
know
kind
of
mitigate
some
of
the
issues
is
if
they
were
having
a
hard
time,
find
a
placement
for
kids
and
had
to
bring
the
kids
to
our
child
care
room.
B
The
own
call
kua
staff
could
also
be
there
to
assist
so
that
way
we
could
see
what
each
other
goes
through
versus
having
saved
like
blind
assumptions
and
like
equally,
I
think
it's
kind
of
difficult
for
the
children
in
our
childcare
room
to
sit
in
an
office
building.
You
know
it's
inherently,
not
normal
right.
B
I
could
imagine
that
from
some
of
the
properties,
that's
owned
by
the
city
say
that
one
of
them
could
be
rehabbed
and
staffed
by
our
staff.
So
that
way,
those
youth
if
they
had
to
sit
there,
that
they
could
sit
inside
a
home.
B
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
that.
It
sounds
to
me
when
I
hear
your
testimony
that,
for
example,
from
the
testimony
of
vanessa
fields
and
from
what
I
know
from
certain
mandated
reporters
and
their
their
employers
and
supervisors.
G
A
Fire
engine
or
some
emergency
vehicle
passing
by
I'll,
let
it
pass
by
it,
sounds
like
a
system
that
has
become
a
penalty
driven
system
most
likely
based
on
legislation
that
tried
to
legislate
conduct
by
those
professionals
and
and
I'm
and
and
at
least
it
appears
to
me
it
it
has
not
really
worked
out.
Well,
we
have
doctors
and
principals
and
teachers
who
are
subject
to
sec
being
second
guessed
and
therefore
rather
just
report.
Everything
then
use
judgment
and
it
sounds
like
dhs.
A
Workers
are
heavily
influenced
to
place
rather
than
take
the
blame
for
not
placing
a
a
penalty
driven
system.
Is
that
is
that
accurate
or
or
could
you
could
you
react
to
what
I
said?
Do
you
think
that's
true?
Not
true.
Am
I
missing
something.
B
I
think
I've
seen
over
the
course
of
my
time
that
over
the
course
of
say
the
past
few
years
that
it
has
been
more
a
punishment
driven,
although
I
mean
I
can't
say
from
the
current
from
the
current
commissioner
and
the
and
the
deputy,
the
commissioners,
you
know
that
that
from
their
end
it's
been
a
lot
more
open
communication,
but
but
seeing
from
the
ground
level.
B
I
guess
you
could
say
that
it
that
you
know
it's
come
off
more
of
a
dictatorship
than
it
is
like
an
actual
social
service
program.
A
We
have
a
organization
turning
points
for
children.
It
has
four
kuas
that
are
in
charge
of
providing
services
to
children.
A
We
are
discussing
a
case
that
none
of
us
would
have
known
about
if
it
was
not
reported
in
a
newspaper,
and
even
so
we
are
restricted
from
getting
into
details
or
having
questions
answered
from
turning
points
or
dhs
itself.
You
know
because
of
the
law,
and
I
understand
that
it
certainly
makes
our
job
as
a
special
committee
or
as
council
members,
you
know
ever
more
difficult,
but
turning
points
has
received
54
million
dollars.
A
I
don't
know
if
that
includes
the
6.3
million,
that
that
is
paid
for
its
insurance
premium,
6.3
million,
in
addition,
or
if
that
includes
that,
and
for
whatever
reason
they
have
not
appeared
today
to
answer
questions,
albeit
we
can
only
ask
a
limited
a
number
of
questions
quite
restricted.
A
It
does
not
seem
like
a
organization
that
is
willing
to
come
forward
in
light
of
what
was
revealed
a
shocking
failure
to
protect
three
girls
from
very
serious
harm.
A
A
Could
happen
that
that
would
give
you
confidence.
I
mean.
Is
this
something
that's
okay,
or
should
we
say
that
maybe
something's
being
done,
we
don't
understand,
but
is
this
something
that
you
think
is
typical
or
atypical
of
what's
happening
in
in
our
city,
with
the
kuwas.
B
To
to
be
perfectly
honest,
I
think
that
the
cool
work
has
become
more
of
like
a,
I
can't
think
of
the
best
word,
but
kind
of
like
a
hit
or
miss
process,
and
you
know
that
and
that
they've
been
trying
and
that
they've
been
trying
to
learn
by
trial
and
error,
and
I
think
that
when
you're
dealing
with
the
families,
is
you
really
don't
have
that
time
to
per
se?
Learn.
B
You
know
what
I'm
saying
and
the
thing
from
a
lot
of
times
if
the
coup
would
say,
fail
to
do
something
or
follow
up
it's
going
to
fall
back
on
to
dhs
anyway.
B
So
I
think
that
there
needs
to
be
kind
of
some
way
to
create
a
real
sense
of
accountability
when
in
in
the
same
respect,
there
needs
to
be
a
real
sense
of
support
too,
that
there's
plenty
of
co-workers
that
are
that
are
trying
to
do
their
best
and
and
and
we
you
know-
and
we
need
to
find
a
way
to
work
with
them
as
well
and
improve
and
improve
like
their
static
with
it
too,
because
because
from
from
my
time,
sitting
recently
like
from
the
teenagers
that
we
deal
with,
there's
a
lot
involved
in
sex
trafficking.
B
We've
recently
had
two
teenagers
over
the
course
of
the
past
couple
years.
They
were
charged
that
were
murder
and
I'm
sure
the
taxing
effect
on
the
workers,
who
are
reasonably
newer
to
the
social
service
system
and
and
dealing
with
cases
that
strong
and
and
probably
not
having
any
real
kind
of
support.
B
Besides,
you
have
to
get
certain
things
done
so
I
mean,
I
think,
if
we
work
on
the
supports
on
a
very
basic
level
and
then
on
the
management
level
work
on
accountability,
I
would
hope
things
could
be
worked
out
and
then
and
then
to
have
kind
of
like
a
clear
kind
of
communication
with
the
courts,
because
if
we
get
like
the
kid
that
needs
to
be
placed
out
of
county
they're,
that
kid
probably
shows
up
to
us
at
two
or
three
in
the
morning
and
there's
no
out
of
county
placements
at
that
time.
A
A
Okay,
would
you
call
them
for
public
comment,
so
the
two.
C
H
H
H
I've
had
six
cool
workers
in
the
last
11
months
from
turning
points
of
children
for
a
child.
In
my
care,
her
safety
visit
this
month
was
with
the
sixth
social
worker,
who
double
parked
in
the
middle
of
my
block,
stayed
in
my
house
for
less
than
six
minutes
for
her
safety
check
prior
to
that,
he
called
and
scheduled
for
a
visit,
and
he
thought
I
had
another
child
in
my
here.
H
H
I
asked
myself
is
this
the
kind
of
visit
that
danielle
kelly
received
before
she
died
in
dhs
care?
What
type
of
safety
visits
are
acceptable
for?
Kua
coopers
are
ignoring
judges,
orders
and
state
law?
Why
is
this?
Okay,
judges
give
orders
to
explore
family
and
kua
picks
up
the
wording
that
the
judges
use
on
the
documents.
H
H
H
If
you
never
asked
me
my
social
security
number,
my
current
foster
child
spent
too
many
months
in
foster
care
until
I
went
up
the
chain
of
the
command
to
get
her
place
with
me,
siblings,
weren't,
seeing
each
other,
which
is
another
state
law
that
kua
always
ignores
kua
denied
my
child
from
seeing
her
siblings,
stating
she
was
too
medically
fragile,
but
she
attends
a
regular
daycare.
I
had
to
obtain
a
doctor's
note
in
order
for
her
to
start
her
sibling
visits.
Eight
months
after
she
was
born.
H
H
Kua
turns
a
blind
eye
to
foster
homes
like
the
one
where
my
nieces
placed
at
with
a
man
who
has
pending
gun
charges
for
terroristic
threats
for
threatening
to
blow
his
tenant's
head
off
with
a
gun
which
he
is
not
licensed
to
carry,
which
is
another
pending
charge.
He
has
with
the
city
of
philadelphia.
H
The
cool
workers
never
mentioned
that
there
was
an
adult
male
living
in
the
hope
of
the
home,
who
was
the
husband
of
the
foster
parent,
where
my
niece
lives,
but
she's,
quick
to
point
out
that
she
didn't
see
siblings
in
the
home
of
the
iron
who
are
not
under
dhs
care.
So
she's,
not.
She
doesn't
have
to
see
these
children.
H
Kuwait
has
taken
children
out
of
homes
where
documents
exist,
that
there
are
no
safety
issues.
Families
have
safety
plans
and,
according
to
the
flow
chart
given
to
me
by
councilman
clark,
when
I
met
with
him
they're
supposed
to
receive
services
in
their
home
and
not
be
removed.
So
why
is
kua
and
dhs
not
following
their
own
policies?
H
The
system
is
overloaded
and
their
own
system
is
not
appropriately
following
their
own
policies.
I
will
submit
the
flow
chart
along
with
my
testimony.
I
continue
to
receive
retaliation
when
I
report
kua.
The
most
recent
was
a
motion
to
remove
this
child.
That's
currently,
in
my
care
from
my
home,
the
dhs
attorney
based
it
on
incorrect
information,
which
could
have
easily
been
rectified
if
the
crew
worker
had
came
and
saw
the
child
reviewed,
her
medical
records
or
even
attended
a
doctor's
appointment.
H
H
H
Currently
dhs
has
filed
a
motion
to
dismiss
my
adoption
petition
for
my
niece
but
they're,
allowing
me
to
foster
non-relatives.
I'm
really
not
understanding
this
whole
cooler
in
dhs
system.
Why
is
it?
Okay
for
me
to
have
my
niece
erased
from
our
family
and
adopt
it
out
to
someone
who's
not
allowed
us
to
fear.
A
Thank
you
very
much
I'll
ask
is
our
other
witness
available
for
public
comment
that
would
be
april
mcbride.
H
H
Good
morning,
my
testimony
good
afternoon,
everyone,
my
testimony,
is-
I
was
the
testimony
of
commissioner
cynthia
f
figaro
on
february
12
2019
states
that
child
abuse
reporting
requirements
are
set
by
state
law
and
the
child
protective
services,
law
of
pennsylvania
and
me
pulling
these
laws
up
from
the
pennsylvania
general
assembly.
Titled
24,
number
634,
number
letter
c
and
letter
d
is
states
that
the
use
of
reasonable
force
on
or
against
the
child
by
the
child's
own
parent
or
person
responsible
for
the
child's
welfare
should
not
be
considered
abuse.
H
H
Section
d
of
this
same
area-
states,
rights,
appearances
states.
Nothing
in
this
chapter
shall
be
construed
to
restrict
the
generally
recognized
existing
rights
of
parents
to
use
reasonable
force
born
or
against
their
children
for
the
purpose
of
supervision,
control
and
discipline
of
their
children.
Such
reasonable
force
shall
not
constitute
child
abuse
and
philadelphia.
Dhs
has
been
abusive
with
you,
with
putting
parents
on
their
child
abuse
registry,
with
no
with
no
proof
no
legal
representation
stating
that
their
parent
was
locked
up
or
anything
of
that
nature.
H
They
have
been
using
this
tactic
for
retaliation
and
also
financial
gain
if
needed.
This
is
a
big
issue
across
pennsylvania,
as
well
as
other
states,
and
this
is
definitely
unconstitutional
and
I'm
requesting
myself
for
my
case
to
be
looked
into,
because
I
am
on
the
I
am
on
the
special
committee.
Child
separation
case
study.
Once
again,
my
name
is
april
mcbride
and
I
have
been
for
four
years
on
a
child
abuse
registry
with
no
balance,
no
testimony
from
a
doctor
or
anything
just
pure,
mere
retaliation
from
a
caseworker.
H
They
had
it
out
for
me
because
I
knew
my
rights
when
I
hired
a
legal
attorney.
So
therefore,
I
am
requesting
for
actually
for
the
special
committee
to
also
include
a
review
of
anybody
that
was
placed
on
the
child
abuse
registry
unlawfully
and
request
for
them
to
be
taken
off.
Immediately,
though,
I
understand
that
things
are
changing
for
dhs
because
they
have
been
exposed,
but
if
they
haven't
been
exposed.
What
would
be
the
outcome?
Would
it
still
be
the
same?
H
But
for
this
funding
I
said
that
was
a
very
sick
ordeal
and
I
also
would
like
to
request
for
these
particular
people.
These
case
workers
and
anybody
involved
with
these
children
the
same
way
that
they
have
us,
go
and
get
a
medical,
a
mental
evaluation
that
they
do
the
same
nobody's
perfect,
and
we
know
that
they're,
not
above
the
law.
H
So
I'm
not
understanding
why
I,
I
am
sitting
on
a
state
child
abuse
registry
and
I
didn't
commit
a
child
abuse
crime
according
to
state
law
and
according
to
cynthia
figaro,
what
they
said
that
they
follow
state
law.
Apparently
they
don't
and
that's
all.
I
have
to
speak
on
the
obama
with
my
testimony.
A
A
Was
just
the
two
okay,
I
will
say
that
I
have
received
a
written
statement
from
turning
points.
I
will
read
it,
but
I
do
understand
that
we
have
a
comment
from
miss
yolanda
bryant.
F
Thank
you
I
just
wanted
to
mention.
Also
about
the
you
know
the
coolest
and
the
turning
points,
knowing
about
certain
cool
three,
which
was
also
the
chords,
the
chord
that
was
mentioned
in
this
resolution
being
a
a
part
of
it.
You
know
my
grandkids
also
was
a
part
of
visitations
from
people
that
wasn't
allowed
to
be
on
the
you
know
on
the
list
they
was
allowing.
You
know
outsiders
to
come
in.
F
Also,
if
you
know
if
I
was
on
the
testimony
part
that
court
three
is
failing
at
with
the
things
that
they
doing,
they
have
their
supervision
is
wrong,
and-
and
it's
not
just
chord
three,
it's
other
cool
chords.
That's
doing
things
that
we
need
to
make
a
change
on
and
I
feel
like
if
we
don't
change
the
things.
That's
that's
happening.
One
like
they
testified
about
the
open
courts
and
change
the
the
family
funding
that
they
get
in
the
funding
that
they
asking
for
that.
There's
not
going
to
be
a
difference.
F
We
for
us
to
see
a
difference.
We
need
to
make
a
change
towards
the
courts
being
opening
to
to
to
to
mandate
to
the
I'm.
So
sorry
because
I
I
had
everything
like
together
but
like
for
the
families
to
actually
be
unfounded
to
get
their
bridget
powell
mission
back
in
2015
okay,
so
they
not
going
back
in
the
years
that
they
kept
all
of
these
children.
All
of
these
children
is
still
being
held
and
it's
a
good
thing
that
cindy
bash.
Thank
you.
F
Councilman
cindy
woman,
cindy
bash
asked
for
the
numbers,
because
we
that's
what's
going
to
bring
the
results
we
want
to
see.
The
numbers
we
want
to
see
from
the
numbers
from
the
years
has
passed
even
in
the
funding,
because
when
I
looked
at
the
funding
core
use
most
of
their
money
on
billion
millions
of
dollars
on
just
their
supplies-
and
I
can
prove
this
by-
you-
know-
showing
the
the
the
sheets,
the
charts
they
have
charts
on
their
spending
money
on
their
coffee.
F
F
That's
happened
in
these
cool
agencies
like,
like,
I
said
my
granddaughter
was
raped
and,
and
they
still
allowed
her
to
go
back
to
the
rapist,
and
this
is
a
dh
one
of
the
cooler
workers
left
the
case
because
she
didn't
want
to
be
a
part
of
my
three
or
two-year-old
granddaughter
case
because
of
what's
happening.
She
said
that
they
was
trying
to
rush
adoption,
which
they
trying
to
do
now,
and
this
is
their
core
three.
The
the
core
worker
resigned
from
there
and
she's
on
tape.
This
on
video.
F
She
willingly
videoed
herself
and
said
offer
that
if
we
need
any
help
that
she
will
help,
so
this
is
the
type
of
things
that's
happening.
So
yes,
this
story
with
the
three-year-old
girl,
the
three
little
girls.
They
made
the
big
story,
but
it's
a
lot
of
big
stories,
that's
being
overlooked.
It's
a
lot
of
families
just
hurt
and
there's
a
lot
of
families
that
that's
suffering
from
the
hands
of
kua,
because
I
feel
like
cool
is
just
a
cover-up
for
dhs.
F
A
We
do
not
have
any
further
what
witnesses,
to
my
knowledge
and
no
further
comment,
so
I
am
going
to
read
into
the
record
the
statement
that
I
receive
from
turning
points
for
children
for
those
in
the
public
watching
this
is
a
resolution
to
investigate,
to
learn
further
about
community
on
umbrella
organizations
such
as
turning
points
for
children
and
in
particular,
to
investigate
systemic
failures
that
may
arise
or
have
arisen,
which
resulted
in
three
young
girls
being
placed
with
a
abusive
father,
despite
many
conditions
that
would
alert
the
provider
not
to
do
that,
and-
and
this
is
the
statement
I
have
received.
A
A
Turning
points
is
grateful
for
the
city's
commitment
to
the
safety
and
well-being
of
children
and
families
across
philadelphia,
and
the
agency
continues
to
be
dedicated
to
working
in
partnership
with
the
department
of
human
services,
dhs
and
city
council
to
ensure
the
health
and
safety
of
every
child
and
family
in
the
system.
Turning
points
for
children
is
a
social
service
agency
in
philadelphia
serving
more
than
000
youth
and
families
across
the
region
with
a
range
of
social
service
and
family
strengthening
programs.
A
Training
points
serves
7,
000
youth
in
partnership
with
and
under
the
leadership
of
dhs
as
part
of
four
community
umbrella
agencies.
Kua's
turning
points
is
committed
to
a
holistic
client-centered
approach
that
focused
on
health
safety,
community
and
wellness
for
the
individuals
and
families.
It
serves
any
instance
of
child
of
a
child
not
being
protected,
while
in
our
care,
weighs
heavily
on
turning
points.
Our
job
is
to
keep
the
children
in
our
care
safe.
A
When
that
doesn't
happen,
our
duty
is
to
work
diligently
and
relentlessly
to
determine
where
changes
may
help
ensure
the
care
and
safety
of
those
we
serve
and
may
get
further
challenges.
Turning
points
is
committed
to
reducing
child
abuse
and
improving
the
lives
of
children
across
our
city.
We
work
collaboratively
with
our
city
partners
at
dhs
to
increase
oversight
and
auditing
functions
and
identify
additional
steps
for
improvement.
We
remain
committed
to
the
complex
work
of
child
welfare
in
our
city.
A
Kua's
are
community-based
agencies
subcontracted
with
and
operating
under
the
license
of
philadelphia's
dhs
turning
points.
Kuaz
are
responsible
for
direct
case
management
services
for
families
in
four
of
ten
regions
in
philadelphia,
the
kua
model
to
keep
children
families
as
close
as
possible
to
their
neighborhoods,
was
adopted
by
dhs
in
2013
and
is
rooted
in
an
evidence-based
approach.
In
addition,
a
core
goal
of
the
child
welfare
system
is
to
safely
reunite
children
with
their
families.
A
Kua's
cannot
unilaterally
determine
where
a
child
is
placed
or
when
a
child
is
reunited
with
parents
every
day
across
all
of
the
city's
kua's
case,
managers
must
assure
the
child's
physical
and
emotional
safety
support,
academic
and
other
education
related
progress.
Assure
medical,
dental
and
behavioral
health
needs
are
met.
Transport
the
child
when
necessary,
to
and
from
school
and
appointments,
supervise
visits
with
family
members
make
sure
foster.
Parents
have
what
they
need
to
care
for.
The
child,
help
birth
parents
and
other
family
members
obtain
the
often
wide
range
of
health,
social
service
and
other
practical
services.
A
They
need
to
be
able
to
reunify
with
their
children
and
identify
other
family
members
and
community
supports
all
the
while.
They
must
act
as
mentor
a
counselor,
a
trusted
friend
committed
to
keeping
the
family
together
against
incredible
odds.
The
work
of
child
welfare
is
deeply
rewarding
and
deeply
complex.
We
are
proud
to
partner
with
dhs
and
our
brother
and
sister
cool
provider
agencies
to
care
for
the
children
and
families
of
philadelphia.
A
That's
the
letter
that
I've
received
I've
read
in
threat
of
the
record,
and
that
concludes
the
testimony
statements
and
public
comment.
I
will
finally
ask
if
there's
anyone
in
the
public
who
would
like
to
make
a
comment
who
did
not
have
a
chance
to
do
so,
including
any
of
our
witnesses.
Anyone
in
attendance,
our
committee
members
and
anyone
in
our
viewing
public
that
was
able
to
sign
up
for
public
comment
and
was
unable
to
do
that.