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From YouTube: Special Committee on Gun Violence Prevention 4-17-2023
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The Special Committee on Gun Violence Prevention of the Council of the City of Philadelphia held a Public Hearing on Monday, April 17, 2023 to hear testimony on the following items:
220985
Resolution authorizing the Special Committee on Gun Violence Prevention to conduct a hearing to develop a comprehensive approach to supporting youth who are at risk of being involved in or are currently involved in gun violence.
A
B
Good
morning,
this
is
a
special
committee
on
gun
violence,
Monday
April,
the
17th
of
2023
I,
understand
that
state
law
commonly
requires
the
following
announcement.
We
made
at
the
beginning
of
every
remote
public
hearing
as
follows.
Due
to
the
current
Public
Health
Emergency
city
council
committees
are
currently
meeting
remotely.
B
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are
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C
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sunshine
act.
D
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair
and
good
morning.
Everyone
I
want
to
speak
for
a
few
minutes.
Before
we
hear
from
the
expert
Witnesses
last
September
I
spent
several
hours
in
the
emergency
room
at
Penn
Presbyterian,
comforting,
Tiffany,
Fletcher's,
family
members,
Tiffany
Fletcher
worked
at
the
Mill
Creek
Recreation
Center,
while
on
duty
she
was
tragically
and
senselessly
caught
in
the
crossfire
between
two
rival
groups
of
teenagers.
We
hoped
and
prayed
for
good
news
at
the
hospital
that
day,
but
Tiffany
did
not
survive
her
injuries
as
heartbroken
as
I.
Was
that
terrible
day
and
continued
to
be?
D
This
is
just
one
of
the
many
tragedies
involving
school-aged
children
in
recent
months
stories
about
incidents
in
Overbrook,
Roxborough,
West,
Oak,
Lane
and
other
working
class.
Black
and
brown
neighborhoods
appear
more
and
more
often
in
the
news.
As
a
mother
of
two
young
black
boys,
myself,
I
am
deeply
concerned
by
the
growing
amount
of
Youth
becoming
entangled
in
the
violence
epidemic.
D
D
What
is
happening
here
fits
into
a
very
troubling
National
landscape,
adolescent
mortality
roles
in
the
United
States
by
20
between
2019
and
2021,
the
largest
increase
in
at
least
half
a
century,
and
for
the
first
time
ever,
the
number
one
cause
of
death
for
children
is
gun.
Violence,
Public,
Health,
Emergency
and
every
day
of
inaction
creates
a
lifetime
of
consequences.
D
Skeptics
have
asked
me
several
times
why
I
am
focusing
today's
hearing
on
youth
rather
than
young
people
in
their
20s.
Considering
the
median
age
of
someone
arrested
for
gun,
violence
is
24
to
26..
Let
me
answer
this
question
directly.
Almost
every
perpetrator
of
gun
violence
had
a
touch
point
with
the
government
when
they
were
under
the
age
of
18..
D
The
100
shootings
report
revealed
that
three
and
four
Shooters
had
prior
arrests
as
many
as
93
percent
interacted
with
the
criminal
justice
system
or
a
Health
and
Human
Services
Agency,
and
on
average.
This
interaction
occurred
11
and
a
half
years
before
the
shooting
occurred.
What
do
all
these
statistics
mean?
It
is
troubling
confirmation
that
today's
shooters
were
innocent,
underserved
kids,
who
came
to
the
city
in
search
of
help
and
the
city
failed
them.
So
we
are
all
here
today
focused
on
youth,
specifically
because
we
cannot
afford
to
abandon
the
next
generation
of
children
too.
D
D
We
also
need
to
know
which
metrics
we
already
have
and
what
kind
of
data
we
must
collect
to
understand,
which
city
programs
focus
on
young
people
and
violence
prevention
work
as
intended,
which
do
not
and
identify
remaining
gaps.
Only
then
will
we
be
able
to
speak
with
confidence
and
make
the
changes
necessary
to
give
young
people
and
their
parents
the
support
they
need
to
thrive.
D
I
want
to
thank
everyone
who
was
participating
in
and
watching
this
hearing.
Thank
you
to
the
kidney
Administration
The
Advocates,
who
fight
passionately
for
our
youth
and
my
Council
colleagues,
most
especially
committee
chairman
Kenyatta
Johnson
for
his
tireless
work
to
combat
gun
violence
across
South
and
Southwest
Philly
and
the
city
as
a
whole
and
to
our
Majority
Leader,
Curtis
Jones
for
his
work
in
this
area
as
well.
I
also
want
to
thank
the
young
people
testifying
this
morning.
If
nothing
else,
I
hope
today
shows
you
that
we
are
listening.
D
We
want
to
be
a
part
of
the
solution
and
we
love
you.
It
is
a
city
or
to
support
young
young
survivors
of
violence
and
ensure
all
our
children
are
safe
and
have
the
resources
they
need
to
succeed,
because
today's
youth
are
tomorrow's
leaders.
The
future
of
Philadelphia
depends
on
us
coming
together
and
boldly
investing
in
the
well-being
of
our
young
people.
Thank
you.
So
much.
F
Thank
you
so
much
Mr
chairman
and
special
thanks
to
the
author
of
this
legislation,
because
my
colleague
from
the
moment
she
arrived
in
this
office
has
elevated
the
issue
of
gun
violence,
along
with
yourself,
Mr
chairman
to
a
priority
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia
I.
Remember
when
we
when
I
first
got
here,
it
was
not
the
case,
and
you
know
it
was
like
the
100
thing
on
a
100
things
to
do,
but
it
is
now.
F
We
have
sung
a
course
that
people
are
beginning
to
hear
so
I'm
excited
about
what
we're
going
to
hear
today
to
be
focused
more
on
Solutions
and
recommendations,
as
opposed
to
citing
a
problem
that
you
know.
We
all
can
see
every
day
on
the
news
that
there
is
one
and
I
I
remember
distinctly
for
the
young
people
being
with
the
JJC
with
you,
member
and
and
looking
at
the
faces
of
those
young
people
who
need
a
solution
so
that
they
can
get
off
that
track.
F
B
H
H
Every
day
we
turn
around
we're
losing
a
young
person
as
a
result
of
gun
violence
and
as
I
knock
on
doors
on
a
daily
basis.
Our
mothers,
our
fathers,
our
grandparents,
are
extremely
concerned
at
the
rate
that
this
has
increased
over
the
course
of
the
last
few
years,
and
so
I
am
I'm
honored
to
be
able
to
stand
by.
All
of
you
who
understand
how
important
this
is
to
our
young
people.
We
need
to
to
to
Really
listen,
sit
back
and
listen
to
them,
oftentimes.
H
We
we
don't
include
them
in
the
conversation
and
we
think
that
we
are
smarter
than
them
and
making
the
decisions
for
what
is
best
for
them,
and
so
I'm
glad
that
we
are
here
that
we
are
prepared
to
come
into
this
conversation
with
an
open,
mind
and
and
ready
to
come
up
with
new
ideas
that
that
could
potentially
be
led
by
young
people,
so
that
the
buy-in
is
greater
and
the
outcomes
are
different.
Thank
you.
I
I
As
someone
who
spent
nearly
37
years
in
the
public
safety
space,
it's
it's
an
acceptable
number
of
people
who
have
been
shot
and
murdered
in,
particularly
as
it
relates
to
our
our
young
people.
You
know
the
city
of
Philadelphia's
experienced
a
marked
increase
in
gun
violence.
You
know,
and
far
too
often
with
young
people
involved,
both
as
victims
and
perpetrators
and
I
heard
what
council
member
got
here
and
talked
about
and
I'm
a
pivot
might
for
my
my
written
testimony
just
to
share
with
you
what
those
numbers
really
look
like
as
a
school
district.
I
We
capture,
you
know
all
of
our
young
people
22
and
under
because
that's
you
know,
we
have
kids
young
people
into
that
age
in
our
schools.
You
know
this
school
year
alone,
we've
had
332
individuals
under
the
age
of
22
who
have
been
shot
at
448
of
those
have
been
shot
have
been
under
the
age
of
18
and
out
of
that
number
107
of
them
have
been
active
students.
I
We
take
that
same
number,
322,
we
have
51
of
the
51
individuals
under
the
age
of
22
have
been
murdered,
28
of
them
have
been
under
the
age
of
18,
and
21
of
this
school
year
have
been
active
students,
and
so
the
most
of
the,
though
most
of
these
students,
have
been
shot
in
the
community.
Unfortunately,
we've
had
a
significant
rise
in
violence
occurred
around
our
schools
and
councilwoman
got
here
to
mentioned
a
number
of
those
schools.
I
You
know
over
the
past
two
years
we've
watched
that
violence
come
to
the
doorsteps
of
our
schools,
resulting
in
not
just
you
know
at
least
two
individual
students
shot
directly
outside
of
our
schools,
but
multiple
students
shot,
and
so
my
office
captures
all
of
the
school-age
students
shot
or
killed
and
provides
that
information
to
our
our
students,
school
student
support
team
and
Dr
Jamie
Banks,
the
deputy
chief
of
prevention,
intervention
and
Trauma.
Her
team
responds
to
the
schools,
provide
direct
supports
to
the
family
students
and
staff.
I
Superintendent,
Dr,
Tony
Watson
has
given
me
my
office
and
me
my
charge
to
put
forth
the
best
effort
to
address
the
violence
impact
in
our
students
in
our
school
community
and
to
accomplish
this
task.
The
office
of
school
safety
has
embarked
on
the
following
activities
and
I'll
bring
them
into
two
areas.
The
first
is
really
around
the
physical
components,
but
then,
more
importantly,
the
work
we're
doing
we're
for
our
young
people
in
in
an
effort
to
ask
both
of
you
in
the
openings
council
members.
In
the
opening
indicated.
I
You
know
we
have
to
make
some
different
changes.
We
have
a
long-standing
use
partnership
with
Philadelphia,
Police,
Department
and
I
will
say
this.
You
know
we
cannot
be
able
to
do
the
work,
we're
doing
to
keep
our
kids
safe,
particularly
in
or
around
our
schools,
without
the
support
of
the
Philadelphia
Police
Department
commissioner
executive
team,
in
particular
commissioner
Dales
in
the
most
recent
commissioner,
Kelly
and
and
their
and
their
reason
we
have
the
race
command.
Teams
have
been
a
significant
partner
in
that
work.
The
police
department
will
continue
their
safety
school
safety
zone
initiatives.
I
The
school
safety
zones
provide
uniform
police
officers
present
during
dismissal
to
support
our
safe
passions
for
our
students
moving
through
those
quarters,
apparently
there's
26
zones
that
Encompass
39
schools
and
some
of
our
most
challenging
communities.
We
also
have
recently
established
our
office
of
school
safety
safe
path
program.
I
Human,
Services
and
I
I
want
to
really
key
into
the
fact
the
how
important
that
support
has
been,
and
and
particularly
from
the
Philadelphia
Police
Department
who's
moved
the
school
police
officer
School
of
diversion
officers
into
my
office.
So
we
can
do
a
lot
of
diversion
internally
but,
more
importantly,
the
Philadelphia
Department
of
Human
Services.
They
have
been
with
us
for
nine
years,
supporting
over
2
000,
almost
2
300
students
have
gone
through
the
Intensive
preventive
programs
and
we're
greatly
appreciative
of
their
support.
I
This
initiative
and
policing
strategies
diverts
divert
students
in
Louisville
arrests
with
no
delinquency,
history
who
commit
one
or
the
specified
offense
in
the
school
and
based
on
those
identified.
They
offer
violence.
It
offers
voluntary
community,
these
Prevention
Services
to
those
diverted
assumers
and
their
families,
and
since
the
implementation
of
the
program
in
2014,
there
has
been
an
84
reduction
in
school-based
arrests,
and
so
we
went
from
a
system
that
was
arresting
1600
kids
a
year
to
a
system
last
year
that
only
did
almost
150
students.
I
The
school
safety
is
currently
designing
a
comprehensive
violence,
Reduction
Program
in
Bartram
High
School,
which
we
hope
to
be
an
implementation
model
for
samurai
community
based
models.
What
does
that
model?
Do
engaging
at
high
risk,
High
School
youth
in
a
suite
of
intervention
components
to
reduce
participation
in
violence
protect.
You
present
prevent
younger
children
from
engaging
in
violence.
I
This
place-based
strategies
has
a
foundation
in
the
office
of
Juvenile,
Justice,
delinquencies,
comprehensive
gang
model,
multi-component
strategy
to
reduce
violence
and
gain
group
and
gang
crime
involvement
in
in
youth
in
gangs-
and
we
hope
that
that
is
a
promising
initiative
we
are
involved
in
our
office-
is
also
partnered.
With
the
Philadelphia
with
the
Philadelphia
Police
Department
and
the
Police
Athletic
League,
you
utilizing
my
office
school
safety
safety
staff.
I
We've
been
able
to
create
three
pal
centers
and
three
of
our
toughest
neighborhoods
in
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
until
the
middle
school,
the
Roberto
Clemente
and
Harding
Middle
School.
The
OCS
pal
centers
follows
the
legacy
of
Powell
of
students
who
are
these
locations
are
sent
around
the
OSS
restorative
justice
model
by
building
and
fostering
positive
relationship
with
school
safety
officers,
students
and
their
surrounding
communities
for
giving
students
a
positive
outlook
in
their
neighborhood
to
exercise
socialize
and
build
positive
nature
with
our
through
teamwork,
character,
building,
mentoring
and
restoring
circles.
I
Another
area
we
really
have
focused
on
over
the
last
two
years
our
threat
assessment
process
that
takes
the
appropriate
and
preventative
corrective
medicines
to
maintain
a
safe
and
secure
School
environment.
To
protect
them
to
support
the
potential
victims
and
provides
assistance
to
students
being
assessed,
we
have
two
social
workers
in
my
office
who
are
trained
in
crisis
management
and
respond
to
these
incidents.
I
We
have
response
over
225
threats
of
gun
violence
made
by
students
last
year
through
this
process,
we're
able
to
effectively
address
the
students
behavior
and
get
them
the
support
they
need
in
lieu
of
arrest.
You
know
most
adore
my
when
I
became
on
into
the
school
of
safety
in
2019.
We,
we
started
our
school
safety
mentoring
program.
I
It's
a
mentoring
initiative
to
help
support
you
through
mentorship
participants,
students
receive
mentoring
for
my
school
safety
officers
and
they
will
engage
in
meaningful
conversation,
accountability,
positive
anger,
expression,
leadership
and,
and
in
a
couple
of
weeks,
we're
taking
about
80
students
to
Washington
DC
until
the
African-American
museum
in
Washington
DC
and
getting
the
kids
out
of
the
neighborhood
part
of
that
work
is
our
transition.
Our
mentoring
program
was
implemented
in
partnered
with
ship
with
the
office
of
school
safety,
student
rights
and
responsibility,
and
to
ensure
students
transition
from
any
type
of
place.
I
Experience
a
smooth
transition
back
into
our
school
communities,
police
staff,
work
with,
and
my
program
staff
Works
closely
with
these
students
to
help
them
understand
they
have
support
and
someone
to
hold
them
accountable
and
help
them
along
the
way
to
be
successful
at
the
way.
This
violence
has
significantly
impact
our
students,
both
in
the
community
and
at
the
door.
Celebrating
our
schools,
as
I
stated
beginners,
is
unacceptable.
The
level
of
trauma
that
our
school
leaders
and
staffs
are
exposed
to
is
heartbreaking.
They
cannot
normalize
what
we're
seeing
in
the
community
at
our
schools.
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All
right
start
over
good
morning.
Thank
you
for
inviting
me
to
provide
testimonies
today.
My
name
is
Dr
Jamie,
Banks,
I'm,
Deputy,
Chief
of
prevention,
intervention
and
Trauma
at
the
school
district
I'm
here
today.
To
give
you
a
deeper
understanding
of
our
supports
and
services
that
the
district
currently
has
put
in
place
to
address
the
gun
crisis
in
our
city.
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So
we
use
a
multi-faceted
approach
to
support
our
students,
staff
and
families,
and
this
includes
prevention,
Prevention
Services
for
students,
as
well
as
interventions
for
students
who
have
been
most
impacted
by
gun
violence
and
who
are
at
greatest
risk.
I
will
start
with
a
brief
overview
of
our
school-wide
Universal
programming.
These
are
services
and
programs
that
are
provided
to
all
students
with
the
goal
of
building
students,
social
and
emotional
skills,
supporting
their
development,
positive
relationships,
which
is
key
and
improving
overall
School
climate.
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Climate
and
culture,
so
for
over
the
past
decade,
we
have
been
pouring
resources
and
investing
in
Evan
space
school-wide,
a
social,
emotional
and
climate
programming.
Since
2019,
the
percentage
of
schools
that
have
seen
Pro
that
have
these
programs
in
their
school
plans
have
increased
from
39
to
99
percent.
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As
an
example
of
one
of
the
expanded
options
we've
developed
for
schools,
SCP
is
excited
about
the
growth
of
our
relationships
first
program:
it's
our
school-wide
restorative
justice
model.
The
program
has
expanded
to
roughly
70
schools.
We
have
been
seeing
some
really
transformative
results
from
the
work
at
the
schools
that
have
chosen
this
model.
An
example
of
that
would
be
in
South
Philadelphia
High
School
relationships
first
also
has
been
recognized
by
the
U.S
Department
of
Education.
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Research
points
to
a
significant
role
for
these
evidence-based
practices:
school-wide
social,
emotional
and
climate
intervention
programs
and
preventing
violence
in
and
outside
of
school.
These
programs
work
to
reduce
violence
in
several
ways
for
ways.
First,
they
strengthen
their
relationships
between
and
among
students
and
adults
in
the
school.
Strong
relationships
with
adults
and
peers
in
school
are
among
the
strongest
protective
factors
for
youth
against
engaging
in
violence
and
criminal
activity.
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Third,
by
reducing
behavioral
disruptions,
these
programs
create
environments
that
are
more
welcoming
and
conducive
to
learning.
Therefore,
improving
attendance
and
engagement
and
learning
students
who
are
more
engaged
in
school
and
school
bus
activities
are
less
likely
to
engage
in
violent
and
criminal
activity
and
four
these
programs
are
demonstrated
to
reduce
instance
of
bullying,
which
is
also
frequently
leads
to
violence.
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So
research
conducted
by
our
office
of
research
evaluation
has
demonstrated
that
our
investment
in
these
Universal
climate
approaches
and
social
emotional
learning
program
has
made
schools
safer
and
stronger.
For
example,
schools
that
have
implemented
PBIS
in
five
years,
leading
up
to
the
pandemic,
saw
serious
incidents
decrease
at
seven
times
the
rate
of
other
schools.
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Therefore,
although
violence
in
our
cities
on
the
rise,
the
district's
focus
on
universal
climate
and
social
emotional
program
has
helped
ensure
that
school
is
one
of
the
safest
place
for
our
students
to
be,
in
addition
to
the
climate
programming
that
I
just
spoke
about,
we've
become
a
leader
among
Urban
school
districts
in
capturing
our
students,
voices
and
leveraging
them
to
improve
supports
that
help
prevent
violence.
This
year,
the
district
formally
introduced
the
student
well-being
survey.
It's
a
five-minute
questionnaire
that
is
completed
quarterly
by
students
in
grades
3
through
12.
in
their
most
recent
Administration.
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Seventy
percent
of
all
students
within
that
range
completed
the
survey.
The
survey
captures
a
couple
things
one
their
perceptions
of
quality,
of
their
relationships
with
adults
in
their
schools,
too,
the
perceptions
of
quality
of
their
relationships
with
their
peers,
three,
their
comfort
with
and
use
of
social
emotional
skills
in
areas
like
conflict
resolution
and
self-regulation.
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This
includes
our
students
that
have
been
victims
of
gun
violence,
as
well
as
other
tragic
events,
and
these
students
are
struggling
because
they've
lost
loved
ones
or
just
the
amount
of
things
that
have
occurred
or
have
kind
of
built
up.
We
provide
supports
and
services
to
the
victims,
siblings,
school
age,
family
members
and
friends
and
the
school
Community.
We
identify
these
individuals,
so
we
can
Target
our
response
to
them
to
make
sure
that
they
get
the
level
of
support
that
they
need.
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The
additional
behavioral
and
mental
health
supports
that
students
receive
are
provided
by
both
School
District
employees
and
Community
Partners
that
specialize
in
various
behavioral
and
mental
health
areas.
Over
the
past
four
years,
we've
increased
the
number
of
school
counselors
that
have
been
hired
by
the
district
councilors
provide
everything
not
limited
to
check-ins
individual
sessions.
Small
group
interventions,
referral
for
services
for
more
intensive
needs,
coordinating
care
between
a
community
partner
providers
that
are
providing
those
services
to
make
sure
that
we're
making
that
connection
inside
of
school.
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The
step
team
consists
of
four
individuals,
two
of
which
our
master's
level
clinicians,
and
they
provide
a
clinical
support.
Individual
group,
as
well
as
case
management
and
other
services
that
decrease
the
social
determinants
that
mostly
impede
the
ability
for
our
students
to
access
the
support
they
need
they
may
not.
They
may
need
mental
health
support
but
may
not
want
to
access,
and
these
people
kind
of
help
make
sure
that
they
connect
them
to
services.
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We
continue
to
work
with
Community
Partners
to
support
students
and
communities
that
have
been
affected
by
gun
violence.
These
Services
range
from
a
you
know
again
addressing
individual
needs.
Small
group
needs
as
well
as
community-wide
needs.
We
have.
This
is
a
a
short
list,
but
these
are
some
of
the
partners
that
we
definitely
work
with
is
the
office
of
violence.
Prevention
is
a
rapid
response
team
intensive,
Behavioral,
Health
Services
ibhs,
which
is
funded
in
overseen
by
community
behavioral
health,
there's
a
mental
health
provider
in
each
of
our
schools.
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Additionally,
we
work
with
uplift
a
grieving
children
center
for
grieving
children.
That
has
the
Philly
hope
line
as
well
as
provides
grief,
Services
inside
of
school
and
outside
and
also
Jewish
children,
Family
Services,
which
they
provide
a
range
of
prevention
services,
including
signs
of
suicide,
which
is
the
evidence-based
intervention
again
to
make
sure
that
we
are
reaching
our
our
kids
and
communities
with
the
interventings
that
they
need.
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The
impact
of
trauma
on
our
youth
is
undeniable
in
addition
to
the
services
that
I
mentioned
above
We
are
continuing
to
look
at
how
to
support
our
adults
as
well
as
our
children.
Given
all
that's
gone
on,
in
addition
to
the
training
that
we
have
been
providing
to
our
staff,
we
also
partner
with
network
of
neighbors,
who
really
comes
into
the
school
community
and
really
helps
them
work
through
the
trauma
that
they
have
experienced.
We
also
work
with
Lakeside
Global
Institute,
to
name
another
partner
as
the
gun,
violence
and
Trauma
our
school
communities.
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Experience
continue
to
increase
important
to
introduce
new,
evidence-based
approaches
to
address
the
needs
of
our
community.
The
district
is
working
with
Dr
Sean
gen
Wright,
to
bring
healing
centered
engagement
to
our
district
and
Philadelphia
healing
centered
engagement
emphasizes
the
voice,
youth
voice
and
healing
through
principles
of
culture
agency
and
individual
and
Collective
agency
relationships
meeting
aspirations.
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This
approach
to
individual
healing
there's
a
prerequisite
that
you
have
to
start
working
on
yourself
before
you
can
help
others.
So
as
we
are
bringing
this
to
our
district
to
Philadelphia,
we're
helping
the
individual
helpers
make
sure
that
they're
taking
care
of
themselves
so
that
they
can
help
our
youth
as
school
communities
begin
on
their
Healing
Center
Journey.
Students
will
also
have
the
opportunity
to
to
go
through
a
healing
process
at
a
camp
that
we're
going
to
hold
this
summer,
where
they're
going
to
have
an
experienced
human
Center
engagement
within
this
camp.
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The
district
continues
to
expand
our
transition
services
for
youth
coming
out
of
delinquent
independent
placements
in
hospital
settings.
We
have
case
managers
that
provide
support
as
well
as
mentoring.
We
are
expanding
our
mentoring
options
and
services
that
are
available
to
youth
in
the
transition
Center,
so
that
we
can
again
reach
more
youth
and
we're
also
offering
them
opportunity
to
earn
credit
and
participate
in
restorative
Circle
circles
as
they
transition
back
into
the
district
I
hope.
This
brief
overview
has
provided
a
better
understanding
of
efforts.
The
school
district
is
doing
to
really
support
our
students.
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As
we
know,
the
violence
that
is
plaguing
our
city
is
not
occurring
in
just
inside
inside
of
our
schools.
For
these
reasons,
the
greatest
need
is
not
necessarily
for
newer
different
District
support,
but
rather
than
a
coordinated
Community
effort
that
includes
communication
collaboration
across
all
the
different
entities,
so
that
we
can
be
most
impactful
with
our
supports
and
services.
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L
It
will
culminate
very
soon
with
the
release
of
Dr
wallington's
plan
for
improvement.
Once
this
process
is
complete,
the
superintendent
will
return
with
detail,
asks
that
are
directly
related
to
the
greatest
areas
of
need
that
emerge
from
strategic
planning
process
during
the
questions
and
answer:
Time
Dr,
Chief,
sorry,
Deputy,
Chiefs,
Dr,
Abby,
gray
of
the
office
of
school
climate,
culture
and
Rachel
holdsman
of
student
rights,
rights
and
responsibilities
is
also
available
to
answer
questions,
as
some
of
the
work
I
discussed
is
within
their
office.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
the
time
today.
E
Kimberly
Ali,
commissioner
for
the
Philadelphia
Department
of
Human
Services
good
morning,
City
Council,
Members,
Gautier,
Johnson
and
members
of
the
city
council
special
committee
on
gun
violence
prevention
with
me
today
is
Dr
Gary,
D,
Williams,
Deputy,
Commissioner
of
Juvenile
Justice
Services
and
Nadine
Parisi
chief
of
Finance.
Today
we
have
been
asked
to
provide
testimony
and
response
to
resolution
number
220-985.
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The
mission
of
DHS
is
to
provide
and
promote
safety,
permanency
and
well-being
for
Children
at
Risk
of
abuse,
neglect
and
delinquency
in
our
Juvenile
Justice
Services
Division,
we
fund
a
full
range
of
programs
designed
to
divert
young
people
from
entering
the
Juvenile
Justice
System
prevent
further
involvement
into
the
system
for
children
who
have
been
arrested
and
provide
rehabilitative
services
for
children
adjudicated
delinquent.
We
work
with
our
partners
in
the
First
Judicial
District
Juvenile
Probation,
the
District
Attorney's
office
and
The
Advocate
Community
to
develop
and
fund
programs
designed
to
meet
these
goals.
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We
also
collaborate
with
our
office
of
Children
and
Families
Partners
to
ensure
that
young
people
enroll
in
Work
Ready
out
of
school
time
and
adult
education
programs.
We
believe
in
a
community-based
approach
to
prevention.
Over
the
past
several
years,
we
have
increased
and
expanded
our
use
of
diversion
and
Prevention
Services.
We
concentrate
on
providing
safe
places,
Supportive
Services
and
positive
activities
for
youth,
including
those
who
may
be
at
risk
of
involvement
in
gun
violence.
E
Community-Based
organizations
operate
these
programs
delivering
an
interactive
curriculum
to
keep
young
people
engaged
in
Services.
We
operate
three
main
programs
that
are
open
to
youth
ages,
10
to
21,
and
they
require
no
referral.
These
programs
are
designed
to
help
youth
at
risk
of
becoming
entangled
with
the
Juvenile
Justice
System.
The
programs
share
a
common
goal
to
connect
with
youth.
They
emphasize
family
engagement,
conflict
resolution,
violence,
prevention,
mentorship,
coaching
and
providing
other
service
linkages.
These
programs
are
the
community
evening,
Resource
Centers,
since
opening
in
2021
the
centers
have
connected
with
742
youth
among
2
700
visits.
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This
number
includes
both
youth,
who
may
have
come
to
the
center
voluntarily
or
by
way
of
the
Philadelphia
Police
Department
for
a
curfew.
Violation,
intensive
Prevention
Services
is
a
diversion
service
that
works
with
both
the
Youth
and
Family
to
build
resiliency
and
a
sense
of
self-worth
for
the
young
person
in
FY
22
832
youth
were
referred.
It
is
both
a
case
management
and
a
site-based
service
which
offers
positive,
Youth,
Development
programs
and
support
to
keep
young
people
on
track.
This
program
has
a
capacity
to
serve
approximately
1300
youth
per
year.
E
Don't
fall
down
in
the
hood
is
designed
for
you
who
have
been
exposed
to
gun
violence
or
who
have
gun
charges.
Dhs
recently
explained
expanded
the
program
to
allow
for
self-referrals
annually.
This
program
has
a
capacity
to
serve
a
little
over
450
youth
per
year.
The
expansion
allows
DHS
to
provide
additional
support
to
young
people,
preventing
them
from
further
involvement
in
the
system.
E
We
believe
that
providing
community-based
Alternatives
help
to
reduce
youth
incarceration
and
curb
recidivism
rjjs
division
offers
several
programs
available
to
youth
post
arrest.
Many
of
these
resources
are
court
ordered
and
serve
as
a
community-based
alternative
to
secure
detention
or
long-term
residential
placement.
These
programs
all
share
similar
goals,
including,
but
not
limited,
to
helping
youth
with
cognitive,
behavioral
change,
life
skills,
violence
prevention,
group
activities
and
positive
Community
integration.
E
Some
of
our
post-diverse
programs,
which
require
many
hours
of
participation
and
increase
supervision,
are
our
pre-evening
Reporting
Center
in-home
detention
post
evening,
Reporting
Center,
Community
intervention,
Center
intensive
supervision
program
Aftercare
evening
Reporting,
Center
and
reintegration
case
management
to
integrate
youth
back
into
their
community
communities
after
their
placement.
The
highest
level
of
services
that
we
provide
are
detention
and
placement
services
at
the
Philadelphia
Juvenile
Justice
service
center.
While
youth
are
detained
waiting
for
their
hearings,
we
offer
behavioral
health
support,
education
and
Vocational
programs.
E
We
also
fund
longer
term
placement
options
at
private
providers
and
some
of
our
youth
are
placed
in
state
facilities.
We
are
very
appreciative
that
both
the
Commonwealth
of
Pennsylvania
and
the
City
of
Philadelphia
have
supported
our
funding
requests
to
increase
youth
programming,
which
includes
anti-violence
programs
and
services.
We
know
that
supporting
Youth
and
their
families
is
a
critical
part
of
a
comprehensive
approach
to
empowering
our
young
people
of
lifting
families
and,
by
extension,
reducing
the
impact
of
the
rising
gun
violence.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
testify.
E
N
Good
morning,
everyone
good
morning
Council,
thank
you
so
much
for
having
me
today.
So
my
name
is
Ruth
ibaya
I'm,
the
injury
prevention
program
manager
at
the
health
department
and
I'm,
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
best
practices
for
addressing
youth
violence,
just
based
on
our
experiences
within
our
coalitions,
our
clinical
experiences
and
what
we
believe
is
best
for
children,
so
as
a
pediatrician
I
hope
to
never
see
children
impacted
by
fire
and
violence.
But
the
truth
is
we
see
Children
and
Youth
impacted
by
violence.
N
Every
day,
far
too
many
young
people
are
direct
victims
of
violence,
sustaining
physical
and
emotional
wounds
that
affect
them,
their
families
and
their
communities.
But
beyond
that,
many
youth,
we
see
live
an
acute
awareness
of
the
impact
of
violence
on
their
friends
and
families
and
carry
with
them
a
sense
of
loss
and
a
sense
of
fear
at
a
time
when
their
lives
should
be
focused
on
realizing
their
full
potential
fire.
N
Research
done
at
the
time
of
the
pandemic
showed
that
this
was
part
of
a
national
Trend
that
there
was
an
increase
in
children
involved
in
violence
on
both
sides
of
the
gun,
which
speaks
to
how
structural
and
societal
disruption
have
such
a
profound
interplay
with
violence.
Children
are
one
of
our
greatest
sources
of
Hope
for
the
future,
and
thoughtful
approaches
to
prevention
and
intervention
among
Children
and
Youth
is
part
of
any
successful
gun
violence
strategy.
N
So
I
wanted
to
take
a
moment
to
underscore
some
of
the
best
practices
for
preventing
violence
among
Youth
and
the
first
I'll
make
mention
of
is
safe
storage.
So
firearm
access
among
youth
is
complicated,
but
we
do
know
that
research
has
shown
parental
ownership,
predicts
youth
possession
and
that
youth
access
is
linked
with
involvement
in
violence.
So
there's
no
question
that
the
availability
of
firearms
converts
risk
to
youth,
safe
storage
has
implications
for
Access
among
very
young
children.
N
That's
often
where
it's
discussed,
but
it's
not
because
it's
not
often
realized
that
children
as
young
as
two
or
three
might
be
able
to
pull
a
trigger,
but
it
also
has
implications
for
guns
that
are
lost
or
stolen
and
therefore
contribute
to
the
cycle
of
violence.
There
was
a
significant
uptick
in
gun
ownership
around
the
time
of
the
covid-19
pandemic,
which
was
reflected
in
many
communities
throughout
the
country
and
those
Firearms
are
still
with
us.
In
addition,
novel
forms
of
access,
including
ghost
guns,
pose
a
new
challenge.
N
Increased
access
is
an
important
factor
in
violence
among
youth
that
we
cannot
ignore.
Many
organizations
and
Health
Systems
have
gunlock
programs
but
learning
from
families
what
works
best,
what
is
most
acceptable
and
how
to
ensure
that
this
is
a
sustainable
resource
is
important.
We
also
must
not
fail
to
continue
our
advocacy
in
addressing
how
Firearms
land
on
our
streets
in
the
first
place,
preemption
limit
our
ability
to
create
Common
Sense
policies
within
our
city,
but
leaders
in
state
government
and
Beyond
must
continue
to
be
held
responsible
for
the
proliferation
of
firearms.
N
N
Just
the
individual
research
has
found
that
programs
that
focus
on
the
family
unit
or
family
factors
may
have
greater
effect
than
those
that
don't,
in
addition,
strengthening
protective
factors
through
mentoring,
connection
to
supportive
programs,
improving
skills
and
creating
an
environment
that
Fosters
thriving
through
strategies
that
address
Community
level
risk
all
play
a
role
in
preventing
violence.
It's
important
to
note
the
role
that
employment
can
play
so
in
Philadelphia,
chronic
unemployment
defined
as
no
employment
in
the
preceding
12
months,
especially
among
men
and
boys,
occurs
in
similar
parts
of
the
city's
fire
and
violence.
N
N
And
they
have
young
children
adolescent
it
has
potential
to
affect
so
many
alcohol
children
do
a
lot
of
our
children
who
experience
violence,
turn
to
school,
helping
them
to
get
back
to
sure,
regardless
of
which
strategies
boy.
One
important
that
you'd
have
an
eye
towards
sustainability
programs
that
engage
youth
without
allowing
sufficient.
N
And
young
people
notice
that
kind
of
commit
and
consistency.
This
is
particularly
true
people
who
spent
time
in
the
criminal
justice
who
are
Traditions.
We've
learned
a
lot
about
that
from
our
violence,
interruption
or
cure
violence
Coalition,
because
they
work
with
high-risk,
Youth
and
trust
is
a
major
issue.
Finally,
I
would
be
remiss
in
discussing
an
effective
youth
violence
prevention
strategy.
If
I
didn't
talk
about
trauma
healing
it's,
our
Collective
wish
that
our
children
never
saw
or
witnessed
violence
or
its
effects,
but
for
too
many
children
this
is
not
the
case.
N
N
In
summary,
an
effective
youth
violence
prevention
strategy
reduces
risks
such
as
firearm,
access
unemployment
and
adequate
educational
support
on
heel
trauma.
It
also
Builds
on
protective
factors,
seeing
any
young
person
and
helping
them
to
see
in
their
future
potential.
A
young
person
is
to
learn
to
explore
the
world
and
to
discover
their
place
in
it.
These
strategies
help
build
a
bridge
between
their
present
and
a
brighter
future.
Thank
you.
B
B
You
doing
it's
always
good
to
see
you
give
your
public
props,
I,
know
your
heart
and
and
your
passion
is
around
this
issue.
As
a
captain
of
17
Police
District
I
watch,
you
go
door
to
door
block
by
block
house
by
house
working
to
save
the
young
people
when
you
serve
with
me
in
South
Philadelphia
and
so
I'm
glad
that
you're,
taking
that
same
passion,
commitment
over
to
the
school
district
I
had
a
couple
questions
around
twofold.
One
is
a
safe,
Pass,
Program
right.
B
One
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
advocate
for
my
budgetary
standpoint
is
increasing
on
that
particular
program
and
I
know.
When
I
talked
to
Erica
Atwoods
you're
talking
about
doing
a
partnership
with
townwatch
integrated
Services
because
they
actually
do
the
training,
can
you
elaborate
on
what
that
program
looks
like,
but,
most
importantly,
what
type
of
expansion
is
needed,
particularly
in
I
guess,
I
think
would
be
areas
where
there's
Nick
schools,
where
there's
High,
gun
violence
and
and
not
only
gun,
violence
but
different
types
of
altercations.
Can
you
give
me
an
aspect?
I
Yeah,
so
so
Mr
chair
I,
mean
the
program
really
is,
is
really
built
to
one
of
the
challenges
we
faced
when
we
were
looking
for
volunteers
in
our
corridors
is,
as
you
know,
for
several
years,
we're
just
not
seeing
it.
Unfortunately,
it
we're
just
not,
and
so
we're
we're
working
with
one
of
my
colleagues
in
Chicago
to
Chief
there.
I
She
she
introduces
to
a
program
that
they
have
been
doing
for
actually
several
years
now,
where
they
had
created
a
safe
passage
program
after
a
young
person
was
killed,
leaving
in
the
Carters
of
their
school.
Now
they
have
a
very
robust
program
run
by
the
cities,
almost
30,
plus
million
dollars
and
I
think
they
have
almost
1500
community-based
workers,
and
so
part
of
our
work
was
trying
to
implement
this,
not
at
the
school
district
per
se.
I
So
I'm
glad
you
brought
up
town
watch
integrated
Services,
because
we
really
think
that
we're
to
work
really
rest
right,
I
mean
I,
think
that's
where
we'll
have
long-term
sustainability
and
because
they're
actually
doing
the
training
with
us
and
they
have
the
infrastructure
and
the
base
and
all
of
the
mechanism
to
be
able
to
do
that.
But
part
of
that
work
now
is.
We
would
look
forward
to
collaborating
with
time
watch
integrated,
Services
one
because
of
their
just
their
their
tentacles
into
the
community.
I
You
know
we
had
some
challenges:
getting
vendors
to
be
able
to
take
on
this,
this
charge
to
support
deploying
individuals
and
it's
and
it's
complex
right
I
mean
even
though
we're
paying
individuals
to
come
to
the
corridors.
It's
still
some
staffing
challenges,
and
so
we
we're
really
rely
on
our
vendor
to
take
care
a
large
percentage
that,
but
the
goal
is
to
put
as
many
adults
talents
in
that
space.
Now
we
also
recognize
they're
not
there
to
stop
gunfire
right.
I
They're,
not
armed
they're,
not
I
mean,
but
part
of
them
are
being
eyes
and
ears.
We
challenge
them
to
get
to
know
the
relationship
with
the
kids
as
they're
walking
along
the
Carters,
get
to
know
the
business
Community
along
those
corridors
and
build
that
cohesion.
So
we
can
have
some
you
know,
but
it's
not
again.
I
don't
want
to
make
it
as
a
it's
as
perfect.
Entity
is
really
about
getting
adults
into
that
space.
So
we
can
keep
an
eye
on
our
young
people.
B
That's
working
not
only
just
in
partnership
with
the
district
but
most
importantly,
develop
the
relationship
with
the
young
people
right
going
to
and
from
school
and
kind
of
being
the
odds
in
the
air,
the
most
important
support
system
for
those
young
people.
So
that's
something
I
observed
and
then
I
also
want
to
get
an
idea.
Have
the
district
thought
about
re-contracting
with
Philadelphia
anti-truck
inside
Mouse
Network,
because
I
remember
years
ago
they
didn't
just
only
work
out
in
the
community.
B
I
So
we
haven't
disciplined
a
contract,
but
we
use
them
significantly.
I
mean
through
the
working
with
time
watch
integrated
Services
pan
has
been
a
very
prominent
supporter
in
helping
us
deal
with
de-escalating
situations
that
we're
having
at
schools
situations
we're
having
our
Carters.
We
have
really
relied
on
them
to
support
us
on
that,
and,
and
they
have
done
that
without
any
time
we've
called
Mr
Sheriff.
They
have
always
been
in
that
space.
I
We
use
time
watch
integrated
services
in
their
team
to
support
us
when
we're
having
issues
at
schools
in
particular
and
because
of
their
so
we
haven't,
did
a
formal
contract,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
the
supports
coming
from
both
Pan
and
the
city
services
across
the
board
have
been
really
really
immense
in
helping
us
deal
with
issues
that
arise.
Oftentimes
unexpectedly,
where
we
need
a
much
more
rapid
response
from.
B
Your
perspective,
what's
your
most
critical
need
because,
like
you're
the
person
at
the
end
of
the
day
when
a
person
gets
murdered
outside
of
a
school
where
there's
a
fight
inside
the
school
or
any
type
of
Crisis
I
mean
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
buck
is
going
to
stop
with
you.
So
from
your
perspective,
then
the
head
person
have,
they
said:
Public
Safety.
What's
your
specific
need,
I.
I
I
I
think
I
mean
I,
think
you
hit
it.
I
mean
the
prevention,
and
the
safe
path
program
is
I.
Think
is,
can
give
us
some
side
trade
where
we
can
definitely
have
some
immediate.
We
have
to
start
getting
parents
more
engaged
right.
So
it's
not
some
of
it's
not
about
money.
It's
about
just
coordinating
engagement,
which
you
start
to
outline
I
mean
we
have.
You
know
we
need
to
get
parents
more
involved
in.
I
I
No,
but
I
think
I
think
the
really
helping
to
support
the
safe
path
program
do
that
as
a
if
we
want
that
to
build
into
a
long-term
strategy
right
now,
I'm
using
that
through
grant
funding
and
other
opportunities,
but
I
think
building
it
into
the
the
infrastructure
and
the
most
of
the
city
gives
us
some
sustainability
I
understand.
The
model
of
volunteers
has
always
been
more
appropriate,
but
knowing
that
we
don't
I,
think
it
creates
an
opportunity
to
have
sustainability
across
that
that
process
several.
B
Colleagues
that
have
a
couple
of
questions
save
my
other
for
a
number
of
rap
another
round,
but
I'm
going
to
push
you
on
this
key
component.
So
what
is
the
district
doing
from
this
aspect
specifically
like?
What's
the
parent
agenda
I
mean
since
parents
play
a
critical
role
like
what's
the
agenda,
to
support
parents
to
get
parents
inside
the
schools
to
help
address
their
trauma
and
help
them
also
be
an
integrated
part
of
protecting
our
and
keeping
our
young
people
safe
yeah.
I
Well,
I
mean,
as
you
know,
they
have
the
family
engagement
Center
here
at
the
school
district
I
know
there
may
be
others
on
there
who
can
speak
more
directly
to
that
chairman
Johnson,
but
there
is
a
real
big
push.
I
mean
Dr.
Watson
has
made
that
part
of
his
charge
and
included
them
included,
making
sure,
including
parents
as
you're,
building
out
this
to
his
strategic
plan.
I.
C
B
That's
going
on
I
guess
so
that
probably
be
a
bigger,
a
larger
conversation
as
a
whole,
but
I
wanted
to
know
you
know
if
parents
play
a
role,
what
type
of
like
really
initiatives
are
we
doing
to
support
some
of
the
parents
and
also
even
weed
out
some
of
the
ones
who
may
come
up
and
go?
You
know
riled
up
and
maybe
some
additional
comment
down
their
support.
I
I
We
have
not,
and
so
I'll
take
those
recommendations,
but
I
also
would
say
challenge
the
fact
that
we
have
parents
acting
and
and
and
manners
outside,
of
our
school
going
after
students,
because
of
some
of
the
laws
are
in
place
as
well
right
when
you
only
write
a
ticket
for
this.
Only
conduct
I
think
I've
shared
that
with
you
before
the
parents
believe
they
can
come
up
and
act
in
a
way.
I
That's
unacceptable
going
after
our
other
students
and
then
looking
at
the
police
department,
like
you
can't
do
anything
to
me,
but
give
me
a
ticket
I
think
we
need
to
start
talking
about
what
does
it
look
like
to
create
that
that
buffer
around
their
schools
from
a
safety
perspective,
Beyond?
Obviously,
we're
talking
about
violence
today,
but
that
behavior
that
comes
up
to
schools,
I
think
could
be
also
making
exemptions
into
the
solely
conduct
citations,
and
you
know
where
I'm
going
with
that.
Yes,.
B
B
Sure,
when
you're
on
patrol
your
team
won't
Patrol
parent
does
come
up.
There.
Fight
starts
out,
and
parents
punch
a
child
in
the
mouth,
which
is
I
think
against
the
law
right
at
some
point
in
time.
That's
not
proper
behavior
and
that's
just
inciting
more
violence.
Right
suffering
from
the
disorderly
conduct.
Can
that
person
still
be
taken
down
to
the
distinction
for
coulomb
period,
Well.
I
I,
don't
know
if
there's
any
cool
off
but
I
mean
obviously
if
they
engage
in
a
simple
assault,
assault
that
takes
them
outside
of
the
solar
conduct
realm,
and
that
would
be
an
arrestable
offense
right
that
that's
not
within
the
to
capture
that
but
much
of
the
stuff.
We
see
rest
in
that
lower
portion
of
of
the
just
being
disorderly,
you
know
and
disrupting
the
flow
and
again
it's
not
all
the
time.
I
I
Absolutely
and
I
think,
maybe,
as
we
think,
through
this
safe
path,
program
and
other
things
that
we're
doing
they
can
be
I,
know
many
of
our
school
leaders,
as
you
know,
have
parent
associations
and
really
deal
with
the
parents
on
a
more
micro
level
and
school
leaders
in
their
space
and
and
most
of
all
of
them
do
a
very
effective
job
in
that.
But
have
we
asked
them
to
venture
now
into
this
other
space?
B
D
D
D
Think
in
general,
our
city
seems
to
love
piloting
things
that
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
just
do
right,
we're
not
in
the
pilot
phase
of
gun,
violence,
we're
in
the
full-fledged
phase
of
gun
violence,
and
so
the
solutions,
especially
the
ones
that
make
a
ton
of
sense,
just
need
to
happen
and
I,
certainly
from
a
budget
perspective,
want
to
support
our
ability
to
expand
that
to
every
single
school.
That's
been
struggling
with
gun
violence
over
these
last
several
years.
D
The
questions
for
you
know
the
agencies
who
work
on
this
from
an
implementation
perspective.
The
school
district
in
DHS
you
each
talk
about
really
valuable,
evidence-based
prevention
and
intervention
models
that
you're
engaging
in
and
that
that
make
a
lot
of
sense.
However,
we're
seeing
this
problem
get
get
worse,
and
so
my
questions
for
the
school
district
and
for
DHS
are
one.
D
D
I
In
yeah
and
I'll
let
Dr
Banks
talk
about.
You
know
some
your
response
to
what
in
her
space
what
they
think
is
needed,
but
so
we
are.
We
are
evaluating
everything
that
we're
doing
council
member
and
got
there.
We
we
what
are
things
for,
for
example,
in
our
our
school
diversion
program,
we
brought
it
on
in
19
2014,
we
brought
on
Drexel
University
Dr
Naomi
Goldstein
from
Drexel
University
to
be
our
researcher.
I
We
returned
this
into
a
longitudinal
study,
so
we
have
I,
can
share
with
you
and
send
you
the
five
most
recent
report
that
we've
done
over
the
last
five
years
of
what
that
data
looked
like.
To
show
that
you
know
a
kid
was
arrested
in
our
school
system
was
1.4
more
times
likely
to
be,
you
know,
be
in
the
system
versus
our
our
kids.
Our
you
know,
kids
or
not.
We're
our
our
recipients.
I
So
the
school
data
you
know
provides
the
kids
are
s
on
a
weekly
owner
on
a
yearly
basis,
how
they
feel
going
to
and
from
school
hear
me
and
so
we're
using
that
data
of
how
kids
for
the
purpose
of
how
we
select
our
Carters.
Using
that
data
to
say
well,
kids
said
they
do
not
feel
safe
going
to
and
from.
We
combine
that
with
the
harm
scores
from
the
police
department,
and
we
use
a
three
to
four
hundred
foot
buffer
around
the
school.
To
say
what
are
those
harm
scores?
Look
like.
I
Now,
who
does
my
research
for
us
we're
doing
you
know
pre
and
post
surveys
we're
asking
the
kids
throughout
the
process
now
we're
early
in
our
mentoring
work.
So
we
hope
to
our
next
year
we'll
be
able
to
have
more
succinct
numbers
of
aligning
and
looking
at
how
those
kids
are
doing
well
and
one
of
the
projects
we're
working
with.
Are
our
data
evaluation
team
Dr
Wolford?
I
Is
we
we
working
with
collaborates
with
the
police
department
and
the
data
evaluation
team
will
start
a
process
where
we're
looking
at
going
back
five
years
of
data,
we
have
five
years
of
data
on
kids
who
have
been
shot
as
well
as
kids.
Who've
been
who've,
been
who've,
also
committed,
murder
and
been
shooting
and
and
been
Shooters
to
look
at
the
data
going
back
in
time
to
the
earlier
question:
did
you
said
11
years
ago,
Kevin
Bethel?
I
Where
was
the
touch
point,
so
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
the
touch
point
in
the
school
district
as
to
where
and
and
where
does
that
look?
What
does
that
look
like
that's
going
to
be
a
long
project,
but
we're
really
excited
about
really
digging
deep
into
the
data
to
see.
If
we
can
go
back
in
time
to
see
where
the
touches
are,
what
could
we
done
something
different
with
that
young
person
that
may
have
diverted
him
or
her
away
from
going
down
a
different
path
and.
I
So
we're
applying
for
a
Stoli
Foundation
Fellowship
to
be
able
to
support
that
work,
we're
confident
that's
going
to
move
forward
and
we'll
be
going
through
that
process.
I
don't
have
a
timeline.
Specific
I
mean
it's
outlined
in
our
proposal,
but
we'll
we
hopefully
as
we
work
within
our
partnership
with
both
internally
and
externally,
be
able
to.
As
we
identify
those
entities
we
can
do
that
we
can
already
identify
where
our
schools
are,
you
know
and
where
some
of
them
are
more
high-profile.
I
Schools
are
we've
already
been
able
to
identify
that
most
of
our
children
are
being
shot
after
school
within
two
miles
of
school
before
5
30,
for
our
active
students,
and
most
of
them
are
not
being
shot
in
the
zip
code
that
they
live
and
so
take,
for
example,
a
school
like
Gratz,
which
is
a
charter
school
last
year
they
had
12
indicate
youth
shot.
11
of
them
were
chat
within
two
miles
of
their
school.
Most
of
them
came
from
10
different,
zip
codes,
and
so
what
does
that
look
like
we
all?
I
We
know
that
out
of
school
time
is
very
critical.
Now,
right
for
our
young
people
and
and
the
work
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
data
to
be
got,
but
we
definitely
have
to
be
data
informed
and
understand
exactly
we
cannot
just
do
these
shotguns
approach.
Really
really
we
in
my
office
of
trying
to
be
really
really
focused
on
it's,
not
240,
schools
are
being
impacted.
You
know.
Where
can
we
really
start
and
really
have
really
significant
impact
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
use
the
data
to
do?
Okay,.
D
I
That's
a
charter
school,
but
I
did
meet
with
their
their
members
of
their
team
to
share
them.
The
data
but
they're
not
directly
a
part
of
my
network
as
far
as
what
I
oversee,
but
they
do
have
some
strong
programming
in
their
school,
which
I
can't
speak
to
I,
mean
I
know
that's
a
a
Mastery
Charter
School,
but
we
are
been
working
in
collaboration
with
our
Charter
team
and
our
Charter
folks
and
and
and
even
more
now,
to
be
able
to
link
some
of
the
activity
that
we're
seeing.
D
L
Right,
I
think
that
you
know
you
will
see
a
greater
impact
as
internally
we're
working
with
Kevin's
office
and
the
work
he's
doing
he's
working
with
my
office,
he's
working
with
Dr,
Abby,
Gray's
office
and
Rachel's
for
our
programming's
aligned,
and
so
that
occurring
kind
of
outside
of
our
walls
too,
would
strengthen
the
impact
of
the
great
programming
that
many
of
our
colleagues
are
doing.
I
want
to
go
ahead,
I
want
to.
B
Yes,
if
you
don't
mind
and
if
it's
okay,
councilman
Jamie
got
here
just
to
dig
a
Little
Deeper
on
your
question,
because
Dr
James
I
was
going
to
ask
you
this
on
my
second
round,
but
this
is
your
second
time
mentioning
it
great.
You
talked
about
greater
coordination
of
all
the
programs
right.
That's
your
second
time
saying
it
right.
B
So
is
there
a
Monday
morning
meeting
with
all
the
key
agencies
and
then
just
going
over?
What's
going
on
at
all
the
schools
of
all
the
agencies,
resource
support
wise,
reviewing
it's
kind
of
like
Kevin
when
you
work
when
you
were
a
Deputy
Commissioner,
what
was
the
name
of
the
the
the
program
that
y'all
used
to
have
when
all
the
agencies
would
be
inside
the
room
and
you'll
be
reviewing
all
the
shootings
across
the
city
of
Philadelphia
on
a
weekly
basis?
B
F
Of
point
of
information,
Mr
chairman,
yes,
sir,
a
couple
of
things-
one
I
am
convinced
now
more
than
ever
that
the
solutions
to
our
gun
violence
problem
exists.
Based
on
the
hearings
I'm
here
like
we,
we
have
little
pockets
of
success.
Little
highlights
of
success.
Some
of
them
need
to
be
brought
to
scale.
That's
number
one
I'm!
Absolutely
thank
you
for
having
this
hearing
because
listening
to
it
I
know
the
solutions
exist.
F
Second
thing:
one
of
the
things
we
have
in
our
discussion
of
public
policy
is
the
language
problem.
Now,
you'll
call
something
a
tomato,
I'll
call
it
tomato,
but
it
is
actually
the
same
vegetable
or
fruit,
whichever
scientific,
so
what
I'm
hearing
so
my
good
friend
Bethel
is
talking
about
safe
routes,
I
call
it
safe
Carters.
This
morning,
7
A.M
to
your
question.
F
Mr
chairman
six
of
my
high
schools
and
middle
schools
meet
every
Monday
7
A.M
in
a
what
we
call
it
Monday
morning,
roll
call
the
time
watch
is
there:
the
police
are
there
school
from
time
to
time.
The
school
police
have
been
there
SEPTA.
Is
there
and
guess
what
we
talk
about?
What
happened
the
week
before
so
I'm
gonna
get
you
and
remember
Goodyear
in
to
the
7
A.M
meeting,
but
the
models
exist,
but
here
here's
the
thing
each
of
the
routes.
F
So
if
you
know
my
area,
you
got
Hilltop,
you
have
Burke
Street
way,
yeah
Woodcrest
way
and
if
you're
from
the
70s
80s
90s
experience,
you
know
what
that
means.
You
got
Lansdowne
Avenue,
so
you
have
all
of
these
neighborhoods
that
these
kids
got
to
go
to
and
from
we
have
put
cameras
along
a
safe
route,
so
that
is
overlaying.
The
town
watch
the
SEPTA.
The
bike
cops
all
of
that
doing
the
arrival
and
departure
of
young
people
it's
still
they
get
into
it.
F
I
don't
want
that
to
sound
like
a
Panacea,
but
it
is
definitely
cut
down
on
the
number
of
instances
since
Bernard
Scott
was
murdered
right
across
the
street
from
Overbrook.
So
bethel's
point
is
correct.
Doesn't
just
it
happened?
It
starts
at
the
school,
but
it
spills
out
into
the
street.
All
right.
I
can't
get
you
because
my
gun
isn't
in
school
because
I
had
to
take
it
off
because
of
the
metal
detectors,
but
wait
till
I
get
to
my
ratchet
to
see
you
two
blocks
away.
So
two
two.
F
F
B
B
L
But
I
think
what
councilman
Jones
just
shared
does
answer
some
questions
too.
When
I
say
a
communication
collaboration
I'm,
not
just
talking
internal,
yes,
we're
having
conversations
and
and
meeting
about
what
we
are
seeing
and
what
our
programs
are
doing.
I
mean
outside
the
wall,
what
our
partners
are
doing
and,
more
importantly,
what
he
said
same
language.
We
saying
we
have
to
sometimes
I
believe
we
come
at
things
from
the
same
place,
but
we're
using
different
words
or
the
communication
isn't
as
clear
and
so
I.
L
One
of
the
goals
would
be
to
not
only
know
what
we're
doing
right.
We
all
know
why
we're
doing
it
but
making
sure
that
we're
using
the
same
Clear
language
so
that,
as
we
are
attacking
the
problem,
we're
on
the
same
page
with
with
how
we're
doing
it
and
how
our
supports
complement
one
another
right
and
we
grow
what
needs
to
be
growed
grown.
And
you
know
if
we
find
that
something
is
not
successful.
Then
we
handle
that
accordingly,
but
we're
working
an
effort
together
because
it's
not
just
in
one
domain.
B
D
No
I
the
last
question.
Well,
sorry
I
wanted
to
hear
from
DHS
about
the
report
that
the
commissioner
had
mentioned
to
my
office
tracking
all
of
their
outcomes
across
their
programs
and
of
one.
You
know
solution
in
the
near
term
and
then
I
also
wanted
to
hear
from
Dr
Abaya
one
solution
in
the
near
term.
E
Yeah,
so
thank
you
for
that
question.
Council
member
Yadier,
as
indicated
our
Performance
Management
and
Technology
division
wanted
to
look
at
young
people,
in
particular
young
people
who
are
arrested,
and
so
we
went
back
to
calendar
year
2021
in
order
to
determine
the
outcomes
for
those
young
people
was
actually
a
thousand
young
people,
I'm
hesitant
councilmember
gadier.
To
tell
you
the
results
of
that,
because
we
know
that
there
were
some
limitations
to
the
data
and
I'll.
Tell
you
why
the
the
the
percentage
was
low.
E
So
we
were
all
surprised
about
the
low
percentage,
but
part
of
the
reason.
As
I
indicated,
we
looked
at
calendar
year
2021
because
remember
our
mou
with
the
courts
started
in
2021,
and
so
what
we've
realized
is
that
enough
time
has
not
passed
since
we
are
only
in
April
of
2023,
and
so
that's
why
the
percentage
was
low.
Also,
the
percentage
was
low
in
terms
of
the
number
of
young
people,
because
we,
our
definition
of
recidivism.
So
this
was
a
recidivism
study
included.
E
Young
people
who
were
discharged
from
Services
discharged
from
Services
also
included
discharge
from
the
court
system,
and
so
we
know-
and
we
know
this
by
way
of
looking
at
our
second
analysis-
looked
at
young
people
who
were
placed
at
the
pjgsc,
the
Philadelphia
Juvenile
Justice
service
center.
Again,
we
looked
at
a
cohort
of
young
people
placed
at
the
PGA
Jesse,
which
was
over
a
thousand
young
people
and
calendar
year.
2022
and
learned
I'll
give
you
a
percentage
that
one-third
of
those
young
people
was
placed
at
the
PJ
Jesse
prior.
E
And
so
when
you
look
at
our
recidivism
data,
which
I
indicated
was
low,
compare
it
to
the
data
of
the
young
people
at
the
pjjsc,
indicating
that
at
least
one-third
was
plea
was.
Was
there
at
least
twice
it
was
inconsistent,
and
so
what
we
need
to
do
is
redefine
our
definition.
So
our
next
study
is
going
to
occur.
E
Young
people
we're
going
to
go
back
to
calendar
year
2021,
which
included
the
Thousand
young
people
to
determine
if
there
were
any
arrests,
any
arrests
during
calendar
year
2021,
because
these
are
young
people
who
were
known
to
the
department
and
then
we'll
look
at
the
data
and
reference
to
that.
We.
D
E
Yeah,
so
the
study
of
the
Thousand
young
people
showed
that
in
the
next
calendar
year,
so
within
a
year
that
only
one
percent
of
those
young
people
recidivated,
we
believe
that
one
percent
wasn't
accurate,
and
so
we
further
looked
at
the
the
one
percent.
The
reason
why
we
know
it
wasn't
accurate
is
because
of
the
definition,
and
so
we
have
to
expand
the
definition.
So
that's
the
next
phase.
What
definition
were
we
using?
So
the
definition
was
looking
at
those
thousand
young
people
how
many
were
discharged
from
probationary
supervision.
E
However,
when
you
look
at
supervision,
the
lymph
of
say,
young
people
stay
on
for
more
than
a
year,
remember,
the
cohort
is
from
2021,
and
so
now
we're
just
in
April
of
2023
enough
time
has
not
elapsed
because
we
were
using
the
definition
of
discharge
and
this
definition
is
a
national
discharge
discharge
from
probationary
supervision,
meaning
discharge
from
Court
again,
knowing
that
that
was
incongruent.
When
you
look
at
the
population
of
young
people
who
are
being
held
as
a
pjsc,
as
I
indicated,
at
least
a
third
of
them
has
been
at
the
pjhsd
twice.
D
E
E
And
you
know
what
others
talked
about
that
so
listening
to
the
school
district
certainly
spoke
about.
This
is
that
we
have
to
be
more
intentional.
We
also
look
there,
so
the
study
also
had
us
look
at
our
own
programming
that
we
offer,
and
so
we
know
that
we
need
to
be
more
intentional,
with
family
engagement.
E
Much
like
the
work
that
we
do
on
the
Child
Welfare
side
in
order
to
keep
parents
engaged,
we
have
to
mirror
that
when
the
Juvenile
Justice
side
now,
we
do
certainly
offer
and
provide
family
events
and
events
in
the
community,
but
we
need
to
be
more
intentional
when
we
have
the
parents
at
the
table
with
us
in
order
to
address
the
violence,
and
so
that
is
definitely
one
solution.
The
other
solution,
I,
would
say,
can
I
offer
to
the
other
solution.
E
I
would
say
is
again
because
we
heard
from
Dr
Abaya
around
trauma-informed
care
and
making
sure
that
trauma
is
integrated
in
all
levels
of
ours
services,
so
not
only
prevention,
but
also
our
intervention
and
certainly
is
integrated
in
our
placement.
So
those
are
the
two
major
things
in
terms
of
solutions.
Thank.
N
Sure
and
I
I'm
actually
going
to
very
briefly
offer
a
few
if
I
can
I
apologize
just
because
there
are
a
couple
I
wanted
to
highlight
so
I
know,
I
already
mentioned
safe
storage
and
safe
storage.
I
think
sometimes
is
not
something
people
believe
in
very
deeply,
and
so
I
just
want
to
underscore
that
it's
a
solution,
We
Believe,
has
been
slept
on
as
far
as
optimizing
it.
N
I
was
also
going
to
bring
up
collaboration
so
rebound,
which
is
a
program
in
Mastery,
is
a
partnership
between
Temple
and
that
cure
violence,
program
and
a
school.
There
are
these
kind
of
cross-sectional
things.
This
is
heavily.
What
the
health
department
believes
in
is
this
cross-sectional
approach?
So
integration
I
think
is
really
important.
There
have
to
be
similar
tables
that
we're
sitting
at
and
then
I
wanted
to
mention
one
really
important
I
think
sure
short-term
priority
that
hasn't
come
up
yet,
which
is
social
media.
N
When
we're
talking
about
youth,
we
can't
ignore
the
manifestation
of
violence
in
that
space.
There
are
some
experts
here
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia
that
I
think
we
could
learn
from
to
build
a
short-term
strategy
around
violence
Interruption
online,
which
is
something
that
just
we
haven't
really
put
our
toes
in
yet
so
I
wanted
to
mention
those
things
briefly.
Thank.
D
N
O
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
chairman
Johnson
councilman
Johnson.
Thank
you.
I
want
to
Circle
back
to
the
question
the
question
that
was
raised
around
to
the
public
safety
officer
for
the
school
district
around
the
issue
of
implementing
parent
advocate
programs
or
some
sort
of
like
parent
leadership,
Support
Program,
because
it
is
clear,
Mr,
Mr,
Bethel
that
there
is
a
need
for
parents
to
be
more
involved
in
the
lives
of
our
of
our
children
right
when
it
comes
to
making
violence
prevention
a
reality.
So,
like
you
said,
some
things
are
Beyond
funding.
O
However,
if
we
could
to
the
best
of
our
ability,
create
systems
and
operations
and
I
want
to
be
on
record
around
this,
that
can
help
us
help
our
our
parents,
you
know
become
more
involved
in
their
lives
or
their
children.
That
could
be
a
really
huge
violence
prevention
effort
right.
So,
for
example,
are
we
doing
home
visits
constantly?
Do
we
have
a
team
of
people
that
we
can
hire
to
do
home
visits
constantly
to
check
in
on
these
students,
who
need
a
little
bit
more
care
and
support?
O
Who
are
going
through
trouble
situations
right
and
that's
not?
You
know
and
there's
some
really
targeted
number
of
students
that
probably
need
that.
Are
we
making
sure
that
we're
engaging
those
families
to
understand
resources
such
as
maybe
emotional
trauma,
support
food
resources,
whatever
that's
causing
their
child,
not
to
be
successful
and
or
or
to
commit
violent
crime
or
to
act
out
in
a
particular
way?
O
How
can
we
make
sure
that
their
parents
are
really
involved
and
honestly
what
we
don't
hear
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia
as
much
as
Sabetha,
which
I
and
we
need
to
make
if
this
is
happening?
We
need
to
highlight
this
in
an
enormous
fashion,
whereas
where
the
school
district
is
doing
these
large-scale
parent
support
programs
for
our
children
and
I,
just
think
so
my
question
is
more
centered
on
you
know.
O
So
we
could,
you
know,
have
this
as
a
violence
prevention
method,
so
I
just
wanted
to.
You
know
bring
that
to
your
attention
that
I,
you
know
what
are
the
plans
that
we
can
set
forth
going
forward
to
make
this
a
heavily
fun,
funded
and
supported
program
to
get
people
on
the
ground
to
support
our
kids
in
this
way,.
I
I
appreciate
your
statement,
your
question
again:
I
I,
would
defer
to
the
family
games
because
I'm
not
sure
of
all
the
elements
that
work
within
there,
but
I
think
there
would
be
absolutely
no
question
I,
don't
think
I'll
be
out
of
line
to
say
that
there
will
be
an
appetite
to
sit
down
with
you
and
others
in
city
government
to
start
to
think
about
what
that
looks
like.
We
know
it
can
work.
So
when,
when
commissioner
Ali
was
on
the
call
earlier,
we
use
their
intensive
preventive
services
for
our
programming
for
our
diversion.
I
What
does
that
look
like
the
social
workers?
This
part
of
our
program
go
to
the
homes
right.
The
social
workers
from
the
Department
Human
Resources
goes
to
those
homes,
the
kids
who
are
being
diverted.
They
talk
to
those
families
to
see
what
those
needs
are.
Oftentimes
they'll
find
that
even
greater
than
what
we
started
out
with
right.
They
get
into
home,
there's
no
electric,
no
gas,
no
food,
no
clothing,
all
those
insecurities
sitting
there
and
then
they
will
once
they
move
into
one
of
the
seven
programs.
I
I
think
eight
programs
they
have
now
where
our
kids
get
service,
it's
more
family
based
not
just
for
the
Youth,
so
the
infrastructure
is
there,
I
think
you
know
Finding
and
directing
your
resources
to
those
specific
individuals
that
you're
talking
about
is
important
because
you,
you
can't
do
200
000
students,
but
I
think
it
takes
a
larger
conversation
because
again
I
don't
want
to
speak
out
of
turn
as
we
move
into
this
other
space.
You
know
we
have
to
build
the
infrastructure
for
that,
because
having
parental
participation
has
always
been
a
challenge.
I
As
you
know,
right,
and-
and
so
you
know
really
engaging
like
I-
was
more
proud
of
the
young
people
in
our
schools
who
marched
down
here
to
440
when
they
weren't
happy
with
the
schools
of
the
school.
You
know
selection
process
right.
They
did
it
in
an
organized
way.
They
were
combined.
They
they
really
let
their.
We
got
to
find
a
way
to
get
parents,
and
maybe
it's
not
maybe
it's
during
a
time
when
it's
not
doing
the
work
week
right,
maybe
it's
doing
his
stuff
on
The,
Saturdays
or
Sundays,
or
those
later.
M
I
Where
it
doesn't,
where
a
parent
who
can't
take
off
work
because
they
only
got
four
days
a
year
to
take
off
right
and
so
so
part
of
it
I
think
is
we
have
to
find
a
way
to
create
the
convenience
of
making
sure
we
maximize
those
folks
coming
and
sometimes
those
time
periods
are
not
conducive
to
what
to
the
normal
business
hours.
Yeah.
O
I
O
I
Yeah,
so
I
definitely
would
love
to
follow
up
with
you,
sir,
and
have
that
conversation
I
know
what
I
confer
with
Karen
Lynch
and
her
team
who
run
the
family
engagement
and
the
parent
piece
of
the
operation
here.
To
have
that
larger
conversation
that
you
just
raised
and
I
think
as
well.
Well,
point
will
take.
P
Councilman
I
want
to
stress
two
things
very,
very
quickly,
just
an
answer
to
your
question,
one
for
every
single
action
that
we're
involved
with
with
our
with
students,
and
we
talked
about
the
mental
health
services,
the
trauma
we
always
engage,
the
individual
parents
and
that
effort
and
I
know.
Your
question
is
speaking
to
the
an
overall.
What
are
we
doing
to
bring
groups
of
parents
together,
but
for
every
option?
Parent
involvement
is
critical,
so
we
talk
about
attendance.
We
talk
about
improving
Behavior.
P
We
every
single
effort
involves
the
involvement
and
the
consent
and
the
acknowledgment
and
frequently
a
joint
understanding
where
we
talk
about
what
the
expectations
are,
what
we
need
from
the
parent,
what
we
are
able
to
provide
and
so
on
and
so
on,
so
that
ever
does
take
place
on
an
ongoing
basis
in
a
school
district.
I
also
want
to
stress
that,
in
all
of
our
schools
we
have
parents
and
school-based
staff
that
are
are.
P
So
if
we
Implement,
for
example,
positive
behavioral
interventions,
parents
are
going
to
receive
that
same
type
of
training,
so
they
have
an
understanding
in
the
home
of
what
their
children
are
experiencing
at
school
and
they're
speaking
the
same
language,
and
so
we
are
very
eager
to
join
a
city-wide
effort
or
initiative
that
speaks
to
how
we
can
keep
and
get
parents
involved
with
becoming
much
better
involved
with
their
their
children's
lives.
I'll
speak
to
one
more
thing
because
of
Jessica.
P
We
have
parent
academies
where
our
family
and
Community
engagement
office
throughout
the
year
in
the
community.
So
we
go
into
libraries.
We
go
into
community
centers.
We
have
frequently
gone
into
PhD
locations
because
we
have
a
good
relationship
with
BHA.
We
have
even
gone
into
and
you'll
hear
about
this
more
with
our
parent
engagement
conference.
The
national
conference
is
coming
to
Philadelphia
in
June.
P
We
haven't
also
thank
you,
chair,
Johnson,
going
into
the
prison
here
in
Pennsylvania,
and
we
are
actively
engaging
fathers
who
are
incarcerated
with
their
with
their
children's
lives.
So
when
you
speak
to
keeping
parents
involved,
that's
a
national
model
and
a
national
conference
is
going
to
be
held
here
and
we're
actually
taking
people
into
the
prison.
P
O
Q
O
A
Rec,
Center,
shooting
and-
and
you
know
a
lot
of
you
know-
sometimes
these
representative
shootings
don't
often
involve
young
people,
but
they're
not
involve
adults,
but
the
reality
of
the
matter
is:
is
that
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
experience
situations
where
our
young
people
are
not
involved
in
positive,
behaviors
and
and
so,
and
what
I?
What
I
imagine
more
so
is
like.
O
How
can
we
make
our
parent
program
a
little
bit
more
robust
in
here
in
academy
and
so
forth,
but
I
also
want
to
find
ways
in
which
we
can
do
you
know
what
some
traditional
Educators
have
done.
You
know
some
from
New
York
that
I've
observed,
even
if
we
moved
back
to
one
of
our
favorite
stories,
around
Joe
Clark,
actually
read
a
book
about
them
and
so
forth.
Those
meaningful
engagements
are
really
important
if
we
can
kind
of
get
more
assistant
principles
in
our
schools,
so
they
can.
O
Actually
you
know
some
of
our
principals
can
actually
do
more
home
visits
and
have
deeper
conversations
that
can
make
a
world
of
difference
in
the
child's
life.
That's
going
to
be
really
really
important
to
our
children.
I.
Just
think
that
the
idea
that
you
know
Constance
Clayton
when
she
was
superintendent
I
mean
many
years
ago.
One
of
the
things
she
was
in
Hallmark
for
is
being
able
to
build
those
relationships
with
you
know
having
you
know,
teachers
and
so
forth.
You
know
build
those
relationships
with
families
and
I.
H
H
No
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
all
of
you
for
all
of
the
work
that
you
all
are
doing
as
it
relates
to
showing
that
young
people
are
connected
with
the
services
that
they
desperately
need,
but
I
also
can't
help
but
be
extremely
frustrated
at
the
fact
that
every
time
we
sit
in
front
of
of
the
school
district
or
members
employees
of
the
school
district,
we
continue
to
hear
about
plans.
We're
planning
this
we're
we're.
H
H
They
say
I've
reached
out
to
the
school
district
of
Philadelphia
I've,
reached
out
to
to
the
office
of
Children
and
Families
in
the
city,
to
express
my
concern
regarding
my
my
son
or
my
daughter,
because
they
are
connected
to
activity
that
is
going
to
get
them
in
some
type
of
trouble
and
I
get
no
kind
of
support,
and
so
can
someone
please
speak
to
me
about
engagement,
parent
engagement.
The
topic
of
parent
engagement
is
not
new
Can.
Someone.
H
Please
tell
me
about
what
you
all
have
done
up
until
now
and
how
we
can
be
supportive,
moving
forward
to
to
to
change
how
we're
engaging
parents
right.
Our
parents,
who
have
connected
to
the
courts
and
have
said
my
child,
is
not
coming
to
school
right.
They're,
they're,
they're,
struggling
they're.
They
are
hanging
around
the
wrong
group
of
people
and
I
can't
get
this
necessary
support
from
the
school
district
from
the
administration
from
the
police
department
from
the
courts.
What
do
I
do.
P
So
I
can
address
that
councilwoman.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Every
single
thing
that
I
mentioned
is
something
that
we're
doing
right
now,
so
working
with
incarcerated
parents.
That's
not
something!
That's
planned!
That's
something
that
gosh
councilman
times.
How
long
have
you
been
doing
that
that's
six
seven
years
at
least
I
think
it
was
when
the
two
of
us
visited
the
prison
and
initiated
that
work,
the
school
advisory
councils,
where
parents
are
actively
involved
in
the
decision
making
that
takes
place
within
our
schools.
P
We
have
parents
that
are
involved
in
the
book
because
of
the
school
advisory
councils,
they're
involved
in
the
budgeting
process,
the
the
the
delivery
of
services
within
a
school,
and
so
there
that
is
an
ongoing
effort.
Kevin
made
mention
of
the
diversion
program
that
diversion
program
has
been
going
on
for
six
or
seven
years,
and
that
involves
DHS
other
agencies
and
supports
across
the
city
in
order
to
divert
a
child
from
arrest.
There's
a
parent
involvement
and
parent
services
and
services
to
the
family.
P
When
we
talked
about
the
mental
health
services
that
we
offer
and
the
Behavioral
Health
Services
that
are
offered,
we
partner
with
cbh
they
partner
with
DHS
and
the
parent,
is
actively
involved
in
the
process,
because
no
service
can
be
provided
without
a
parent's
consent.
So
parents
are
actively
involved
when
parents
come
to
us
and
they
share
what
it
is
that
their
child
is
experiencing
very
frequently.
P
We
are
able
to
do
what
I
would
call
an
assessment
or
an
assessment
of
threat,
frequently
that
comes
out
of
the
office
of
safety
when
it's
determined
what
the
threat
assessment
might
be
or
what
the
safety
supports
need
to
be,
and
we
make
efforts
to
try
and
address
the
issues
that
parents
bring
to
us
frequently.
We
work
with
other
agencies
in
order
to
do
that
when
parents
come
to
us
and
it's
a
service
that
is
beyond
our
reach
or
beyond
our
effort.
P
We
turn
to
our
partner
agencies
across
the
city
like
CDH
DHS,
in
order
to
provide
services,
I,
think
DHS
will
tell
you
and
can
tell
you
most
accurately
the
numbers
of
referrals
that
come
from
the
school
district
and
from
public
education
and
the
education
systems
across
the
city
regarding
what
is
happening
with
children
with
regard
to
possible
threats
to
their
safety,
their
need
for
protection,
that
agency
conducts
child
welfare
investigations,
and
so,
in
that
regard,
I'm,
just
sharing
just
a
few
things
just
to
share
that
one.
It's.
P
H
I,
don't
want
to
interrupt
you
I,
don't
want
to
interrupt
you,
but
now
now
I'm
even
more
concerned
right,
because
you're
you're
giving
me
a
list
of
all
of
these
programs
that
involve
engagement,
but
folks
that
spoke
prior
to
you
are
talking
about
the
importance
of
or
the
lack
of,
private
engagement
or
the
need
for
more
parent
engagement.
And
so
my
concern
is:
are
you
in
the
school
district
also
working
in
silos
like
we
oftentimes
do
at
the
city
right?
H
You
know
all
it
one
of
the
complaints
I
get
from
in
my
district,
my
from
parents
who
are
trying
to
receive
services
or
support
services
for
their
children,
for
their
families,
from
the
school
district
or
from
the
office
of
Children
and
Families
and
they've.
Not
they
feel
like
they've
not
been
supported,
and
so,
if
you
could
share
with
me
some
of
what
your
programs
are,
that
we
can
share
forward
we're
out
in
the
community
every
Wednesday
at
a
different
School,
a
different
Church,
a
different
Recreation
Center,
a
different
school.
P
So
councilwoman
I
might
be
able
to
do
you
better
than
that
if
we
will
definitely
share
the
information
with
you,
but
if
you
let
us
know
where
you're
going
to
be
and
in
which
Community
we
might
even
be
able
to
send
someone
from
school
system
to
join
your
effort
within
the
community.
So
the
questions
that
parents
have
that
are
not
getting
addressed
the
issues
and
concerns
that
parents
have
that
have
not
been
addressed
and
and
even
share
with
them,
what
what
services
are
available
and
what
can
be
done.
H
E
You
can
I
just
add
something:
councilmember
belizado
on
behalf
of
the
office
of
Children
and
Families.
As
you
know,
under
the
office
of
Children
and
Families
is
Department
of
Human
Services,
but
it
also
is
Parks
and
Recreation.
The
Free
Library
of
Philadelphia
PHL
Pre-K
Community
Schools,
adult
education,
and
so
what
I
wanted
to?
E
Also
let
you
know
is
that
what
we
are
working
on,
we
do
have
all
of
our
Prevention
Services
our
intervention
services
listed
on
both
the
office
of
Children
and
Families
website,
as
well
as
the
Department
of
Human
Services
website.
But
we
also
know
that
we
have
to
do
better
in
terms
of
getting
the
word
out
to
parents,
and
so
we
are
working
on
by
Council
District,
a
list
of
resources.
E
We're
working
on
that.
Now
that
we
will
send
over
to
city
council.
We
know
that
as
new
programs
come
on
board,
we
have
to
refresh
that
information
and
then
very
soon.
Council
will
also
hear
from
us
us
meeting
the
office
of
Children
and
Families
you.
You
know
Department
of
Human
Services,
all
of
our
Prevention
Services,
as
well
as
parks
and
recs,
the
Free
Library,
the
office
of
violence
prevention,
we're
going
to
do
a
whole
big
Fair
within
the
next
month
or
so
for
families,
because
we
know
again.
E
So
we
want
to
do
on
the
website
making
sure
that
y'all
have
printable
documents,
but
also
making
sure
that
we
all
make
ourselves
available
so
that
we
can
also
engage
families
so
that
they
know
what
services
are
out
there
for
their
young
people,
but
by
all
means
anytime.
A
parent
comes
to
you,
know
the
department
and
wants
Services.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
able
to
service
those
families
so
more
to
come
around
that.
Thank.
H
We
talk
about
the
digital
divide
that
exists
in
our
city
and
and
yet
we
offer
services
primarily
online
and
and
that
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
our
families
can't
get
it,
and
so
the
fact
that
you
all
are
going
to
be
on
the
ground
offering
those
services
in
person
is
a
appreciated
and
and
I
I
invite
your
offices
as
well
to
participate
and
join
us
on
any
Wednesday
evening
at
a
different
part
of
the
of
the
district.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that.
Absolutely.
Thank
you.
G
B
C
C
B
H
Can
I
have
a
can
I
ask
a
quick
question.
Yet?
Yes,
you
can.
My
question
is
I
heard
I
Heard
Chief
Bethel
mentioned
earlier
that
some
of
his
offices,
services
or
some
of
the
work
his
office
is
doing,
is
different
or
is
not
in
collaboration
with
our
Charter
Schools.
Is
there
a
specific
reason
for
that?
How
do
we
connect
what
is
happening
in
our
charter
schools
with
what
is
happening
in
our
Public
Schools
oftentimes
they're,
very
close
in
close
proximity
from
one
another
kids
live
in
the
same
neighborhood.
H
Some
of
the
some
of
the
issues
that
arise
often
are
from
kids
that
participate
or
attend
some
of
these
charter
schools.
So
how?
How
is
the
collaboration
with
the
charter
school
offices
as
well
with
with
the
school
district?
How
do
we?
How
do
we
get
you
all
kind
of
working
together
and
and
being
able.
I
To
give
me
this
is
to
state
that
we
don't
work
together,
it's
just
because
my
work
as
a
school
safety,
I
oversee
the
the
public
school
schools
and
then
all
of
those
have
the
entities
but
there's
a
strong
collaboration
first
with
the
police
department.
So
the
police
department
is
not
concerned
whether
they're,
Charter,
Schools
or
public
schools.
So
I
know
the
the
police
department
works
effectively
across
all
of
those
those
entities
and
even
in
our
safe
zones,
you
know
they're
we're
covering
charter
schools
in
that
space,
we're
regularly
communicating
to
our
Charter
Schools.
I
We
have
a
cheaper
school
safety
here
who
we
often
even
when
we
have
those
so
so,
for
example,
those
those
incidents
where
we
have
a
student
who's
been
who's
been
shot
or
unfortunately,
killed.
You
know
both
are
enforced
situations.
We
that
same
information
we
send
over
to
our
Charter
Schools
through
our
chief
of
Charters
to
make
sure
that
those
charter
schools
are
informed.
I
Absolutely
you
know
you
know,
I
can
tell
you
from
my
office.
We
can
do
a
better
job.
There's
no
question
that
my
office
can
do
a
better
job.
It's
just
it's
a
lot
right,
so
so
so
part
of
it
I
want
to
manage
expectations,
but
also
recognizing
so
even
most
recently,
with
the
issues
we're
having
down
in
Center
City
with
the
kids
conversion.
I
We
met
with
the
charter
schools
that
the
police
department
did
an
excellent
job
to
bring
the
chartered
schools
from
that
area
down
into
their
office
at
their
400
North
Broad
I
was
in
that
session.
The
police
department
was
in
that
session
the
school
leaders
are
necessing
for
the
public
and
charter
schools,
and
then
we
do
breakout
meetings
across
the
city
where
we're
meeting
with
all
of
our
schools
and
geographical
areas.
I
know
in
East
Division
in
particular,
where
you're
at
the
inspector
is
doing
a
phenomenal
job.
I
Now
he's
going
back
to
you
know
bringing
all
of
those
entities
together
into
his
school
meeting,
so
we
kind
of
merged
ours
with
theirs,
and
so
what
he's
doing
is
really
an
exit
of
work
so
we're
doing
that
work.
We
have
to
do
better,
though,
and
make
sure
we're
constantly
being
focused
and
not
ignore
the
issues
around
what
goes
on
between
our
Charters,
but
but
we
could
continue
to
be
a
working
process
and
we
continue
to
try
to
be
better
in
that
space.
H
I
So
each
of
the
charters
have
their
own
entity
at
their
schools,
I
think
maybe
and
possibly
Mastery
Charter,
because
they
have
a
cohort
and
maybe
Universal.
But
after
that
each
of
the
schools
have
their
own
kind
of
safety
person.
You
know
or
whatever
they
title,
that
in
their
schools
and
so
there
you
know
there
is
a
number
of
those.
You
know
that
have
that
kind
of
set
up,
but.
G
G
I
would
like
to
see
something
like
that
started
and
would
love
to
be
involved
in
it.
So
I
would
like
to
know
how
we
could
go
about
getting
something
like
that
started
city-wide
in
order
to
get
feedback
from
the
students
who
are
actually
dealing
with
this
violence
on
a
daily
basis,
whether
it's
because
of
bullying
or
or
whatever
it
is
also
I,
have
questions
about
how
many
counselors
are
you
sure,
in
the
school
district,
and
do
you
think
more
counselors
would
help?
P
G
Think
I
get
that
you
hear
from
them
all
the
time,
but
we
don't
hear
from
them
all
the
time
to
get
it
from
the
mouth
of
the
people
who
are
actually
dealing
with
this
problem
and
the
kids
that's
who's
mostly
affected,
and
this
has
given
them
a
form
of
PTSD.
That's
why
I
asked
about
the
counselors
I
also
like
to
know
if,
if
any,
what
what
is
the
protocol?
If
somebody
needs
to
go
speak
to
somebody
bigger
like
a
a
psychologist
or
psychiatrist.
P
P
We
spoke
earlier
to
the
mentoring
Services
because
we
try
very
hard
to
have
a
student
attached
to
or
knowing
who
the
adult
in
their
school
is
that
when
they
see
that
adult
that
adult
is
in
tune
with
their
emotional
needs,
we
conduct
a
survey
of
our
students
to
judge
their
wildness
on
an
ongoing
basis
to
see
what
issues
and
concerns
they're
having
within
our
school.
We
can
also
invite
council
members
to
visit
students
at
our
at
the
superintendent's
advisory
Council.
P
We
meet
with
students
from
across
the
city,
primarily
middle
school
and
high
schoolers
on
an
ongoing
basis,
and
they
are
frequently
visited
by
others
who
are
interested
in
hearing
their
ideas
and
opinions.
We
talk
to
them
about
school
policies,
everything
from
attendance
to
behavior,
to
discipline,
to
how
they're
feeling
emotionally
and
most
recently,
we
have
gone
to
several
schools
and
talked
with
students
about
attendance
and
how
we
might
be
able
to
increase
attendance.
P
L
In
terms
of
counselors,
we
had
a
very
strong
hiring
of
this
school
year.
We
have
and
I'll
get
the
the
confirmed
number
for
you
after
this
hearing,
but
it's
definitely
like
under
20
20
25
vacancies
for
the
year
we
filled
most
of
our
spots
in
terms
of
your
second
question,
was
if
more
counselors
be
helpful,
I
believe
that
was
your
question
and
I
think
in
some
schools
it
could
be
counselors
and
some
schools,
it's
climate
staff
and
some
schools.
L
G
No
I
thought
that
I
I
thank
them
for
their
answers
and
I'd
still
like
to
try
to
figure
out
how
I
could
go
about
setting
up
a
committee.
So
maybe
I
could
talk
to
some
of
my
colleagues
to
get
I'd
like
to
hear
from
the
kids
and
see
what
they
have
to
say
and
see
what
their
fears
and
insecurities
are
directly
studentcast.
G
B
B
F
Be
very
brief,
Mr
chairman-
and
this
is
an
exciting
discussion.
Thank
you
for
having
this
hearing
I'm
going
to
invite
I've
already
sent
invitations
to
the
members
of
this
committee,
along
with
member
Bethel,
to
join
us
at
our
7
A.M
roll
call
so
that
you
can
see
the
format
structure
and
also
ask
some
of
the
participate
in
schools.
Who've
experienced
gun
violence,
both
Roxboro
and
Overbrook.
How
this
thing
can
can
overlap
and
what
it
what
its
utility
is.
F
B
B
S
You
know
what
I'm
saying
so
like
and
that
ticket
to
the
kid
they
take
a
tool
on
the
kid
being
locked
up
for
almost
four
years
in
and
out,
going
in
and
out
and
to
say
that
I've
been
on
house
arrest,
since
I
was
14.,
I
didn't
got
shot
before
I
didn't
been
in
situations.
So,
whereas,
though
you
you
don't
know
how
to
think
you
don't
know
how
to
move
when
certain
things
go
down
and
you're
you're
scared,
you
get
what
I'm
saying,
then
you
got
yeah
Philly.
S
They.
They
helped
me
achieve
a
lot
within
the
two
years.
They
knew
me
two
three
years
they
had
Moon
they've,
been
here
for
me:
I
accomplished
a
lot
of
things
that
I
ever
accomplished
being
inside
the
the
pjjsc
I,
never
really
accomplished
enough,
but
they
didn't
have
they
didn't
help
me
they
didn't
come
and
they
didn't
hit.
The
no
judge
never
asked
me.
What
can
I
do?
What
can
we
do
to
help
you
get
to
where
you
want
to
be
in
life?
What
can
we
do
to
help
you
get
away
from
the
virus?
S
What
can
we
do
to
help
you
and
your
family
get
close?
They
don't
access
stuff
like
that.
My
PO
never
asked
me
nothing
like
that
like
they
did,
they
don't
want
it
they're
not
doing
nothing,
that's
beneficial
to
us,
but
they
want
their
job.
They
want
their
name
to
look
good
for
their
their
Superior
ready.
R
Kendra
van
water
and
I'm
about
to
start
now,
my
name
is
Kendra
vanderwater
and
I'm.
The
executive
director
of
Youth
Empowerment
for
advancement,
hangout,
better
known
around
the
city,
as
you
have
Philly
we're
a
community-based
organization
working
in
new
ways
with
young
people,
ages,
15
to
24
in
west
and
southwest
Philadelphia,
with
a
special
focus
on
those
in
the
legal
system
charged
with
allegedly
committing
a
violent
crime.
R
Core
programs
are
solely
focused
on
punishment
and
the
same
people
are
cycling
in
and
out
of
the
legal
system,
because
the
help
is
not
addressing
the
root
causes
of
the
problems
they
have.
Young
people
have
infinite
terms
of
Probation
and
house
arrest,
because
there's
nothing
for
them
to
work
towards,
and
judges
and
probation
officers
move
the
goal
posts
based
on
how
they
feel
with
no
accountability.
It's
not
uncommon
for
a
young
person
to
be
on
house
arrest
for
a
year
and
accomplish
nothing
productive
during
that
same
year.
R
Probation
officers
are
workers
from
Court
mandated
programs
are
giving
young
people
phone
numbers
or
flyers
and
telling
them
to
go,
get
the
support
on
their
own
instead
of
doing
it
together
with
them.
These
things
are
not
helpful
when
young
people
in
these
circumstances
need
really
intensive
support
and
lack
many
skills
to
get
things
done
on
their
own.
The
courts
and
probation
Services
continue
to
perpetuate
the
cycle
of
Violence
by
forcing
young
people
into
court
mandated
programs
that
do
nothing
for
them
and
have
high
recidivism
rates
of
up
to
80
percent
according
to
their
own
data.
R
Additionally,
the
court
risk
and
safety
assessments
are
only
based
on
whether
to
detain
a
young
person
or
not
versus
being
a
holistic
assessment
for
their
overall
lives.
Where's.
The
data
for
the
court
mandated
programs
that
the
courts
are
forcing
people
to
attend.
Why
are
we
not
sending
young
people
to
programs
within
their
own
neighborhoods
that
they
identify
to
join
with
their
support
system?
R
Why
do
we
continue
to
only
send
young
people
to
court
mandated
programs
with
high
recidivism
rates?
Yet
young
people
continue
to
not
even
get
the
basics
of
what
they
need.
We
are
paying
about
nine
hundred
dollars
per
day
per
youth
when
they
are
sent
away
for
them
to
still
come
back
to
our
communities
with
nothing
and
no
changes.
R
The
courts
are
not
being
held
accountable
for
being
the
Catalyst
to
poor
outcomes,
and
the
city
really
needs
to
change
this
over
the
past
few
years.
Our
government
has
also
given
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
to
programs
in
our
city
for
violence
reduction,
yet
the
courts
are
also
refusing
to
work
with
these
same
Community
programs
if
they
aren't
directly
contracted
with
them.
This
is
a
huge
disconnect
that
isn't
discussed.
This
money
is
essential
to
the
well-being
of
our
city,
if
invested
properly
and
will
continue
to
be
wasted.
R
If
the
programs
are
not
addressing
the
largest
needs
when
it
comes
to
violence,
and
if
every
program
is
not
able
to
support
the
population
that
everyone
is
saying
needs
the
most
support.
Not
only
are
these
questions,
we
should
be
asking
ourselves,
but
people
in
power
need
to
be
doing
something
concrete
about
it
when
it
comes
to
Solutions,
we've
been
saying
the
same
thing
for
years
that
our
neighborhoods
and
our
young
people
need
concrete
investment
right
now
and
not
later.
R
We
know
our
services
are
of
high
quality
and
the
meeting
actually
and
meeting
the
actual
needs
of
young
people
with
violent
charges
against
them.
Our
services
are
free
to
individuals.
Nobody
is
forced
to
join
our
program
and
there's
not
an
organization
that
has
produced
the
outcomes
we've
had
with
this
specific
population.
We
spend
an
average
of
ten
thousand
dollars
per
young
person
just
for
General
Services
alone,
and
they
have
the
autonomy
to
choose
what
they
want.
R
Programs
need
to
be
ensuring
that
young
people
have
vital
documents
that
young
people
have
better
skills
through
career
exploration
and
not
dead-end
jobs.
They
need
to
be
ensuring
that
young
people
and
their
families
have
their
bills
paid,
have
groceries
and
have
houses
that
they're
able
to
live
in
ensuring
young
people
have
access
to
trauma
and
grief
counseling
from
people
who
look
like
them
and
places
that
young
people
can
go
after
hours
and
can
interact
with
people
who
love
them
in
a
place
where
they
can
be
themselves.
R
Data
has
showed
us
for
years
what
people
need
and
we
are
continuing
to
invest
in
the
school-to-prison
pipeline,
without
accountability
and
if
the
young,
if
we
want
to
change
the
trajectory
of
young
people
and
the
safety
within
our
city,
we
have
to
start
listening
to
young
people
and
invest
directly
in
what
they
need
to
get
Beyond
Survival.
Thank
you.
B
D
S
S
Young
people
choose
to
carry
guns,
but
you
can
you
can
get
shot,
you
can
get
you
can
die
by
living
the
right
life.
I
can
be
doing
everything
that
I'm
supposed
to
be
doing
since
I
came
out,
the
one
I
can
be
I
can
have
a
job.
Everything
could
have
been
passed
down
to
me
in
certain
areas
in
Philly,
I
can
get
shot
or
robbed
just
because
I
got
on
a
certain
thing
or
just
because
somebody
don't
like
something
something
that
I'm
doing
so.
These
kids
want
to
protect
themselves.
Then
you
got
the
rappers.
S
You
got
certain
rappers
that
rap
about
certain
things,
so
they
think
that
it's
cool.
Then
you
got
our
environment.
We
grow
up
watching
what
people
do
we
grow
up,
watching
people
who
sell,
sell
drugs
on
the
corner
or
carry
this
or
do
that?
But
we,
when
we
do
it,
it's
like.
Oh
it's
deep!
Then
they
blame
it
on
us
when
that's
not
like
we,
the
ones,
that's
getting
the
guns
that
we're
not
putting
everything.
That's
here,
we're
not
the
ones,
that's
bringing
the
guns
inside
Philly.
We
got
to
get
them
some
way.
D
S
Try
to
put
yourselves
in
their
shoes
like
try
to
don't
don't
just
wanna
talk
about
doing
better,
for
something
like
really
going
to
do.
Do
like
really
show
that
you
went
ahead.
You
want
to
be
the
person
you
want
to
be
the
people,
that's
going
to
help
them
get
out
of
the
situation.
There
is,
you
can
say:
oh
I'm
gonna.
Do
this
or
I'm
gonna
do
that,
but
you
gotta
show
it.
You
gotta
really
be
out
there
with
them.
You
some
some
of
us.
Some
of
us
kids
need
someone.
S
That's
going
to
tell
us
yo
like
come
on.
That's
not
what
is
that's
not
what
this
is
about.
You
don't
have
to
do.
This
I
got
you,
but
we
don't
have
that
type
of
support.
We're
not
I'm,
not
financially
successful.
They
don't
even
teach
us
about
the
inside
the
system.
They
don't
teach
us
about
that
in
school.
They
don't
teach
us
about
getting
building
a
bank
account.
They
don't
teach
us
how
to
buy
a
house.
They
don't
teach
us
how
to
invest.
S
H
Councilman
can
I
just
step
in
really
quick,
because
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
say
for
the
whole
thing
and
I'm
really
sorry,
I
apologize
I
just
want
to
make
a
comment.
First
of
all,
I
also
want
to
command
man,
man
for
sending
out
his
story
for
keeping
it
real
with
us.
For
being
honest
with
us,
because
you
know
that's
what
we
need
to
hear.
H
We
need
to
hear
more
of
young
men
and
women
like
him,
coming
to
People
Like
Us,
who
are
elected,
who
are
elected
to
be
their
voices,
but
if
we
don't
know
specifically
what
their
needs
are,
then
we
can't
do
a
good
job
at
that.
So
I
commend
you
for
coming
on
here
and
speaking
to
us
and
then
to
to
miss
Kendra.
That
is
the
most
common
sense.
H
H
But
if
we
don't
teach
people
the
basics
of
of
how
to
live
a
a,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
extremely
a
millionaires
type
of
life,
but
a
decent
quality
of
life,
a
respectable
quality
of
life,
we're
not
teaching
them
anything,
and
so
I
just
want
to
commend
programs
like
yeah
for
for
being
on
the
ground
and
for
connecting
with
young
people
where
they
are,
regardless
of
who
they
are
and
what
their
background
or
their
history
has
been.
We
need
more
of
that.
H
H
K
Morning,
everyone
thank
you,
councilman
Johnson,
councilman
Gautier,
for
invite
me
on
this
panel
discussion
this
morning
and
I
see
my
colleague
Kendra
as
well,
who
does
great
work
with
yeah
Philly.
My
name
is
Anton
Moore
executive
director
of
unity
in
the
community,
one
of
our
signature
programs,
initiatives
to
reduce
gun
violence
is
teaching
kids
carpentry
and
also
provide
normal
therapy
on
the
on
a
weekly
basis.
K
One
of
the
things
that
I'm
noticing,
even
with
our
young
people
as
we
work
with
them
and
talk
to
them
as
Kendra
talked
about,
is
the
need
for
investment
a
lot
of
times.
We
we
take
on
these
kids
and
we
bring
these
kids
into
the
fold.
But
a
lot
of
these
kids
need
to
be
focused
on
a
lot
of
times,
they're
dealing
with
issues
when
they
show
up
to
our
programs.
That
needs
a
holistic
approach.
I
have
a
young
kid
in
my
program
who
family
is
nearly
homeless.
K
K
These
are
the
shooters
this.
What
they're
involved
in,
but
who
are
the
kids
that's
coming
up
after
them?
That's
going
to
be
involved
in
that
and
that's
what
we
tend
to
do
is
you
know:
I
adjusted
our
program
to
say:
okay,
we
have
the
kids
right
here,
but
who
are
the
kids
coming
up?
I
know
the
model
for
the
city
is
15
to
16.,
but
now,
as
you
can
see,
the
kids
are
starting
out
at
the
age
of
13.
K
Now
that
are
getting
guns
that
are
stealing
cars
and
different
things
like
that,
and
now
that
we're
we're
starting
to
take
on
those
13
year
olders
and
provide
them
with
the
resources
that
they
need,
because
they
tend
to
look
up
to
those
older
guys
that
are
coming
up.
I
looked
at
a
young
young
kid
on
phone,
that's
in
my
program
and
I'm,
just
looking
at
his
phone.
He
has
somebody
who's
a
shoot
in
our
neighborhood,
that's
his
screensaver!
K
Then
I
start
listening
to
the
music.
You
know
we
just
sitting
there
having
a
conversation
before
class
start
and
he
was
able
to
pinpoint
some
things
to
me
and
open
my
eyes
up
to
some
of
the
things
that's
going
on.
So
when
we're
taking
this
approach,
I
think
the
city
needs
to
adjust
that
age
from
16
and
start
to
look
at
the
kids
that
are
13
years
old
because
now
they're
starting
to
make
sense
that
a
kid
could
be
13
a
day.
K
But
in
two
weeks
to
be
that
shooter
tomorrow
and
and
then
and
then
that's
what
you're
looking
at
I
had
I
have
a
friend
in
Baltimore,
my
friends
in
Chicago.
That's
doing
this
very
same
work
and
they're
noticing
the
same
thing
so
being
able
to
be
on
the
ground,
provide
these
kids
with
the
needed
resources,
but
also
understanding
where
they're
coming
from
and
getting
them
the
resources
that
they
actually
need
and
I'll
tell
you
and
I
think
me
and
Kendra
had
this
conversation.
K
This
is
a
tough
task
doing
this
work
because
it
becomes
overwhelming
a
lot
of
times.
We
are
The
Advocates
that
are
actually
on
the
ground
working
with
these
young
people
and
it
and
it
becomes
tough
in
the
process
because
you're
dealing
with
not
only
just
the
kids
but
the
parents
as
well
and
and
needing
those
needed
resources
to
have
the
staff
to
actually
deal
with
this
stuff
is
very
important.
B
G
G
K
G
G
I
mean
the
event
you
had
last
week
with
Nomo
and
reform,
trying
to
reach
out
to
the
community
to
let
even
our
ex-offenders
know
that
listen
there
is
a
place
in
our
society
for
you
and
that's
what
we
need
to
do,
and
you
know
I'd
love
to
see
some
more
programs
like
Nomo
does
in
my
neighborhood.
You
know
for
the
kids,
we
got
to
get
these
groups
to
Branch
out
and
and
yay
I'd
like
to
you
know,
to
offer
my
support
to
you
too
I
mean
we
need
Dom.
G
If
we
don't
get
them
before
the
age
of
12
or
13
in
my
neighborhood,
the
corner
boys
are
gonna,
get
them,
and-
and
that
makes
me
sad
because
you
know
to
be
honest-
I
talk
to
these
kids
they're,
good
kids
and
that's
why
I'm
advocating
that
we
start
more
conversations
with
these
young
people
that
are
at
risk
and
figure
out
what
they
think
and
what
they
feel
we
should
be
doing,
because
if
we
really
do
believe
that
they're
our
future,
we
need
to
start
supplying
them
with
the
future.
So
I.
Thank
you
for
everything.
D
D
I
wanted
to
ask
before
we
move
on
I.
Imagine
that
you
are
engaging
with
young
people
that
have
touched
one
or
more
City
systems,
whether
that
be
you
know
the
school
district
pjjsc
DHS.
Do
you
have
one
thing
that
you
would
recommend
that
the
city
incorporate
you
know
when
we
are
trying
to
service
young
people
before
they
get
to
the
point
of
being
involved
in
in
violence?
R
Can
I
give
you
three
sure
you
can
give
me
three?
Yes,
so
the
I
know
you,
your
office
helped
push
for
investing
30
million
in
cleaning
up
vacant
lots
and
trash
in
the
blight
I.
Think
that's
a
huge
thing.
We
know
that
research
shows
that
when
your
neighborhoods
are
cleaner,
violence
is
reduced.
That
is
a
huge
thing.
Making
sure
that
the
city
does
that
a
big
one
as
well
for
us
is
implementing
every
school
should
have
conflict
resolution
and
peer
mediation
program.
That's
that's
low
hanging
fruit.
R
K
Think
and
I
think
Kendra
hit
it
on
the
nose
too,
as
well,
but
I
think
every
at
least
once
a
week.
Kids
should
be
allowed
to
learn
to
trade
or
go
out
to
a
job
site
and
learn
different
things.
I
think
sometimes
being
trapped
inside
of
school
is
tough
for
kids.
Just
imagine
if
you're
trapped
inside
of
a
building
for
40
hours
a
week,
a
lot
of
these
kids
tend,
you
know,
tend
to
go
off
and
do
something
different.
K
So
it
was
one
thing
that
I
would
you
know,
love
for
them
to
do
is
at
least
once
a
week
allow,
even
if,
between
8th
and
12th
grade,
that
they
be
given
the
opportunity
to
go,
learn
to
trade
or
a
career
field
that
gets
them
outside
the
building.
In
addition
to
that,
something
happened,
maybe
about
three
months
ago
and
again,
Kendra
made
a
good
point
about
this
as
well.
When
we
went
to
court
with
one
of
our
young
people,
they
wouldn't
let
the
advocate
actually
in
the
courtroom
and
I.
K
Think
that
was
a
big
problem,
because
the
parent
was
kind
of
lost
about
the
situation,
because
she
didn't
quite
understand
understand
it
and
I
had
a
better
understanding
of
the
situation
working
with
the
young
people,
but
they
wouldn't
allow.
You
know
us
to
go
into
the
courtroom
and
I
think
that
the
city
should
do
a
better
job
working
with
the
president
judge
over
there
to
allow
advocates
in
the
courtroom
to
give
that
family.
The
support
on
things
that
they
don't
understand.
D
B
Thank
you
again,
thank
you,
Kendra.
Thank
you.
Anton
I'm
also
thank
you,
man,
man,
for
taking
time
out
of
your
schedule
to
be
on
this
call,
but
man,
man
also
for
Just,
Having,
the
courage
and
coming
on
and
participating
and
just
being
totally
transparent
about
your
life
and
so
I.
Thank
all
of
you-
and
this
is
definitely
good
information
for
us
to
to
look
at
in
terms
of
how
we
support
our
young
people.
Well,
the
clerk.
Please
call
the
next
panel.
B
T
Good
afternoon
Mr
chairman
good
afternoon,
Council
council
person,
Gautier
and
all
council
members
I'm,
first
Deputy
Commissioner
of
Philadelphia
Police
Department
John
Stanford
I
am
standing
in
for
police.
Commissioner
Danielle
Outlaw
and
I'm
also
joined
by
other
members
of
the
commissioner's
executive
team.
Here
today,
I'll
begin
with
the
PowerPoint
and
thank
you
for
having
us
as
a
part
of
the
conversation,
some
powerful
testimony
has
already
been
provided,
and
hopefully
we
can
add
to
the
conversation.
So
I'll
start
with
the
presentation
we
have
here.
Next
next
slide.
T
All
right
so
just
to
start
off
where
we
are
so
far
this
year,
since
2014
homicides
and
shooting
victims
have
continued
to
increase
across
the
city,
but
at
the
end
of
2022,
homicides
and
shooting
victims
were
down
eight
percent
and
three
percent
respectively,
when
compared
to
2021
and
and
so
far
this
year.
Homicides
are
down.
11
and
shooting
victims
are
down
15.
So
we're
continuing
to
see
that
trending
in
a
good
direction.
T
A
positive
direction
next
slide,
please
so
continuing
the
conversation
around
our
young
people
that
are
involved
in
some
of
the
the
activity
that
we
have
seen.
Juvenile
involvement
in
shootings
has
slightly
increased
compared
to
2015
for
both
victimization,
as
well
as
offending
six
percent
of
the
victims
were
juvenile
in
2015.
However,
we've
seen
that
number
increase
in
2021
and
2022
that
number
increased
to
nine
to
ten
percent.
T
Seven
percent
of
the
shooting
victim
offenders
were
juveniles
back
in
2015
and
also
again
seeing
that
number
continue
to
increase
slightly
in
2022.
It
was
around
12
percent,
and
so,
while
the
juvenile
trend
is
concerning
the
bulk
of
the
juvenile
victims,
walk
of
shooting
victims,
I'm,
sorry
and
and
perpetrators
continue
to
be
in
that
age
range
of
18
to
34.
T
T
The
percent
of
juveniles
arrested
for
AG
assaults
has
fluctuated
between
5.7
percent
of
arrests
in
2021
and
9
in
2019..
Next
slide,
please
so
again.
Looking
at
some
of
the
juvenile
felony
incidents
and
locations
in
2022
juveniles
were
arrested
throughout
Philadelphia.
However,
the
highest
number
of
juvenile
incidents
were
concentrated
in
the
areas
of
the
15th
to
22nd
and
24th.
Collectively
those
those
districts
accounted
for
about
23
percent
of
the
juvenile
felony
arrest
and,
again
just
a
note
on
the
hot
spots
of
juvenile
felony
incidents
in
Center
City.
T
We
have
seen
an
increase
along
that
Market
Street
Carter,
and
that
includes
the
the
SEPTA
Market
French
for
line,
which
runs
essentially
through
parts
of
West
Philly,
and
you
can
see
just
using
an
example
of
like
the
19th
District
109
incidents
with
a
juvenile
felony
arrest,
making
up
about
six
percent
of
overall
felony
arrests.
In
that
District,
so
you
can
see
there
how
that
has
an
impact
next
slide.
Please.
T
So
again
that
was
mentioned
earlier
today,
the
leading
cause
of
death
among
children
and
adolescents,
and
so
in
2020.
According
to
the
CDC
firearm,
related
injuries
overtook
motor
vehicle,
which
crashes
as
the
leading
cause
of
death
among
children,
adolescents,
ages,
1
through
19
in
the
United,
States
and
Philadelphia,
is
is
very
similar
to
that
for
the
leading
cause
of
death
in
juveniles
in
Philadelphia
firearm
related
injuries
in
Philadelphia
has
have
been
nearly
the
same
as
unintentional
injuries.
T
T
So
truancy
is
one
of
the
the
issues
that
we've
seen
in
this
city
and
in
2022.
Our
truancy
violations
occur
most
frequently
in
the
second
district,
the
19th
district
and
the
39th
District.
The
most
common
hour
for
police
response
was
9
A.M
to
10
a.m
and
then
2022,
the
the
most
truancy
violations
occurred
in
the
months
of
March,
November
and
October.
The
most
frequent
day
for
truancy
in
2022
was
Wednesdays,
followed
by
Thursdays
in
2020
next
slide.
T
Please
perfume
curfew
violations,
also
a
an
issue
for
us
in
the
city
in
2022
curfew
violations
occurred
most
frequently
in
the
12th
District,
the
39th
district
and
the
18th
District
most
common
hour
for
police
response
was
between
10
pm
and
11
p.m,
followed
by
11
pm
to
midnight
and
then
12
a.m
to
1
a.m.
Being
the
most
frequent
times
in
2022,
our
curfew
violations
peaked
during
the
summer
months
with
33
percent
of
all
violations
occurring
during
the
months
of
June
July
and
August
next
slide,
please.
T
Last
year,
29
reduction
in
robbery
gun
in
those
districts
versus
17
reduction
across
the
city,
a
19
reduction
in
aggravated
assaults
with
gun
in
those
four
districts
versus
the
six
percent
city-wide,
and
a
54
reduction
in
carjackings
in
those
four
districts
versus
a
40
decrease
Citywide
and
so
again,
knowing
that
again,
while
they
are
achievements
in
the
right
direction.
This
is
also
a
result
of
a
number
of
different
strategies.
T
T
T
But
events
such
as
movie
Nights,
Community
block
parties,
as
well
as
events
such
as
National
Night
Out,
as
well
as
the
district,
will
continue
to
hold
their
monthly
Community
meetings,
also,
each
of
the
districts.
They
have
a
unique
plan
for
their
geographical
areas
and
in
those
planned
it
those
plans.
T
Large-Scale
events
that
we
know
are
happening
at
many
of
those
locations
will
all
be
monitored,
as
well
as
in
addition
to
our
community
relations
unit,
who
also
oversees
the
police
athletically.
The
police
explorers
program
and
the
youth
advisory
Council
will
continue
to
do
a
lot
of
the
positive
work
that
they've
been
doing
in
terms
of
Hosting
meetings
and
engaging
our
young
people
across
the
city
next
slide.
Please-
and
this
is
our
final
slide
again
just
to
highlight
some
of
the
youth
programs.
T
They
have
an
annual
holiday
Pico
day
at
the
zoo,
as
well
as
many
of
the
centers
host
in-house
basketball
camps
for
many
of
our
young
people
Monday
through
Friday
and
last
year
we
saw
a
very
successful
initiative
where
over
a
thousand
young
people
were
enrolled
in
many
of
the
summer
activities
at
our
pal
centers,
and
so
to
try
to
continue
that
success.
Starting
June
19th
power
will
have
extended
hours
at
10
of
their
locations
and
again
you
can
visit
phillypow.org
for
more
information
on
the
specific
locations.
T
We
also
have
our
Police
Explorers
program
again,
who
do
events
planned
throughout
the
summer
month,
all
year.
Long
again,
we'll
include
our
Cadet
training,
a
police,
youth
police,
Camp
summer
training
week
with
State
Police
and
their
youth
camp,
as
well
as
bike
training.
And
again
you
can
get
information
on
that
through
PPD
explorers.org
and
as
I
mentioned
previously,
you
have
the
youth
advisory
commission.
T
That
will
continue
to
run
during
the
school
year
and
they
will
extend
their
programs
through
the
summer
months
as
well,
and
so
you
can
find
information
on
that
by
reaching
out
to
any
one
of
the
community
relations
officers
in
any
one
of
our
21
districts.
That
can
put
you
in
communication
with
our
community
relations
unit
and
as
I
stated
before
again.
T
Community
relations
unit
will
continue
their
positive
work,
doing
pop-up
resource
tables,
National,
Night,
Out
attending
summer
block
parties
and
just
again
partnering
with
other
organizations
both
within
the
City
and
surrounding
areas
to
provide
additional
resources
for
our
young
people.
And
that
concludes
my
presentations
at
this
time.
B
A
Begin,
sir,
yes,
thank
you
very
much,
council
member
and
and
chairman
of
the
committee
council
member
Gautier.
My
name
is
Bob
Liston
B
I've
worked
in
the
city
for
many
years.
I
was
a
public
defender
and
head
of
the
juvenile
unit
of
the
public
defender's
office.
I
was
there
for
27
years,
head
of
the
unit
for
16..
A
To
begin
with,
I
just
like
to
to
point
out
a
few
basic
facts
about
Philadelphia's
Juvenile,
Justice
System,
it
has
been
declining
in
size
for
some
years
using
2012
as
a
baseline.
In
2012
there
were,
there
were
5
187
youth
arrest
in
Philadelphia
by
the
year
2022.
That
number
had
declined
to
1635,
so
we've
had
a
very
dramatic
decline
in
the
number
of
arrests.
This
decline
in
youth
arrest
is
the
same
Across,
the
Nation,
so
we're
not
by
ourselves
in
that
regard.
A
In
addition,
there's
been
a
47
decline
in
youth
arrest
between
since
the
since
the
pandemic.
As
regards
juvenile
homicides,
I'll
give
you
three
years:
2012,
2017
and
2022.
In
the
year
2012
there
were
14
arrests
of
juveniles
for
homicide.
In
2017
there
were
nine,
and
in
2022
there
were
37.,
so
the
percentage
of
juvenile
arrest
has
gone
up
from
five
to
six
percent
to
13
last
year.
So
this
is
an
area
of
considerable
concern.
A
I
want
to
point
out,
since
the
DA's
office
deals
with
prosecution
and
enforcement,
what
happens?
The
gun
involved,
arrests,
gun,
involved
arrest,
youth
are
held
at
the
Detention
Center.
We
have
a
rate
of
97
percent
of
the
youth
who
have
gun.
Arrests
are
held
of
those
who
are
not.
There
were
11
a
gun
involved.
Youth
who
were
released
seven
were
released
because
they
had
BB
guns
and
three
were
accused
of
offenses,
where
no
firearm
was
recovered.
A
So
overall,
the
the
practice
in
Philadelphia's
juvenile
justice
system
is
that
children
charged
with
gun-related
offenses,
are
held
in
detained
at
the
pjjsc.
In
addition,
many
folks
have
asked
us
about
Divergent
practices.
I
want
the
record
to
reflect
that
the
Philadelphia
District
Attorney's
Office
diverts
a
number
of
Youth,
but
there
have
been
zero.
A
I
repeat:
zero
youth
diverted
who
have
been
charged
with
gun
involved
matters,
our
diversion
programs,
historically
only
12
to
14
percent
of
Philadelphia
youth
were
arrested
and
charged
were
diverted
pre-petition
from
the
Juvenile
Justice
System,
going
back
to
2016.
That
was
a
rough
amount
12
to
14
percent
in
2021,
21
of
all
Philadelphia
youth
who
were
arrested
and
charged
were
diverted
pre-petition
from
the
Juvenile
Justice
System.
A
This
recidivism
rate
for
juveniles,
who
are
arrested.
The
recidivism
rate
that
we've
tracked
is
that
in
2016
there
was
a
34
recidivism
rate.
In
2019
there
was
a
27
recidivism
rate.
Recidivism
came
up
earlier.
We
have
hired
e-consults
Solutions
Incorporated,
which
is
a
economic
sperm
to
do
research
on
the
juvenile
justice
system,
using
data
that
was
collected
using
our
case
management
system.
A
If
you,
when,
when
you're
looking
at
youth
with
two
or
more
arrests,
the
re
rearrest
rate
jumps
to
81
percent,
so
57
for
first
arrest,
two
or
more
arrests
jumps
to
six
81
and
again
we'll
be
releasing
that
report
towards
the
the
end
of
May.
When
you
ask
the
question,
who
are
the
youth
who
are
in
our
Juvenile
Justice
System,
it's
important
to
note
that
81
percent
of
the
youth
who
are
in
our
Juvenile
Justice
System
are
African-American
about.
14
are
latinx.
A
The
remainder
are,
are
our
other
coming
under
the
broad
category,
so
most
of
these
kids
are
are
African-American
kids,
who
are
in
a
system
the
same
kind
of
numbers.
You'll
find
for
for
people
kids,
who
are
held
at
the
Detention
Center
here
at
the
pjjsc
in
terms
of
cost,
and
it's
important
to
recognize
what
the
costs
are.
A
Our
economic
study,
which
again
will
be
out
towards
the
end
of
May,
will
show
that
if
a
child
is
held
at
the
pjjsc
cost
is
about
220
000
for
a
year
stay
there
and
we
do
have
some
youth
who've
been
held
there
for
a
year
or
state-run
Youth
Development
Center
costs
are
192
720
for
for
kids,
who
are
held
there.
Secure
Residential,
Services
outside
of
the
ydc's,
are
about
125,
000
and
so
on.
A
The
average
cost
I
think
our
study
will
say
for
our
youth
going
through
the
system
is
about
fifty
thousand
dollars.
We
were
asked
to
make
recommendations
for
specific
recommendations
that
can
help
reduce
gun
violence
in
the
city.
One
of
the
most
important
recommendations
I
can
make
has
actually
been
made
by
several
folks
that
is
get
youth
at
the
table.
A
Have
them
involved
in
decision
making?
Have
them
involved
in
implementing
decisions?
Have
them
involved
in
the
follow-up
and
assessments
of
the
outcomes
from
what
is
going
on
with
you.
I
think
this
is
important.
We
can
you
get
look
at
youth
who
are
in
our
Public
Schools.
We
could
actually
have
hearings
at
the
pjjse,
since
we
have
large
numbers
of
children
there
or
we
can
have
hearings
with
children
who
are
who
are
in
in
residential
placement.
A
We
could
have
them
brought
back
for
hearings
or
we
can
actually
go
to
the
facilities
where
they're
being
held
in
terms
of
just
in
terms
of
costs
children.
My
understanding
we've
had
children
at
the
pjjsc,
not
my
understanding
but
facts.
We've
had
60
to
70,
kids
who've
been
waiting
placement.
Sometimes
they
are
waiting
placement
for
as
long
as
six
months,
the
average
cost
as
I
understand
it.
Based
upon
our
studies
is
that
it
cost
about
700
a
day
per
child
who's
being
held
at
the
pjjsc.
A
This
comes
to
roughly
about
one
million
four
hundred
thousand
dollars,
depending
upon
whether
60
or
70
days,
but
over
a
million
dollars
in
any
case
and
I'm.
It's
my
understanding
that
we
are
not
reimbursed
for
those
costs.
Recommendation
number
first
of
all
number
two
would
be.
We
need
more
facilities
for
out
of
home
placement
of
children.
They
should
not
be
waiting
at
the
PGA
JSC
for
60
days
or
90
days
or
120
days
or
even
longer,
to
go
to
placement.
A
Those
children
need
to
be
able
to
get
the
placements.
The
placements
that
we
have
I
do
not
believe
are
adequate.
They
do
not
provide
the
kinds
of
educational
and
Vocational
opportunities
for
young
people
that
they
desperately
need.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
those
programs
are
available
for
our
young
people.
The
best
kinds
of
programs
will
be
those
close
to
home
right
here
in
Philadelphia,
so
that
the
cost
of
those
facilities
192
thousand
dollars
can
be
those
costs
can
be.
A
We
can
have
local
people
from
Philadelphia
who
are
being
paid
to
to
look
after
our
children.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
if
we
have
these
programs
and
they're
close
to
homes
that
we
have
adequate
programming
for
girls,
our
programming
for
girls
is
woefully
inadequate.
Girls
typically
go
from
from
being
at
the
Detention
Center
straight
to
secure
confinement.
It's
at
the
state
level.
Without
there
being
any
intermediate
programs,
we
need
to
do
a
lot
more
involved
there.
A
We
have,
as
point
was
pointed
out
by
others,
the
age
of
young
people
coming
to
our
system
for
a
violent
offenses,
including
homicides,
has
begun
to
decline
significantly.
We
have
had,
in
the
last
six
months
at
least
five
children
who
have
been
15
years
old
or
younger,
at
least
one
13
year
old
involved
in
homicides
or
Target
homicides
as
we
as
prosecutors.
Look
at
the
issue.
If
a
child
is
charged
with
homicide
and
convicted,
then
what
are
we
going
to
do
with
them?
A
Are
we
going
to
send
a
13,
14
or
15
year
old
estate
prison,
or
are
we
going
to
send
them
to
a
juvenile
facility
if
we
send
them
to
a
juvenile
facility?
How
long
will
they
be
at
a
juvenile
facility?
One
year,
two
year,
three
years,
four
years,
five
years,
the
court
has
jurisdiction
until
they're
21..
A
We
would
be
remissing
our
duties
as
prosecutors
if
we
sent
them
for
one
or
two
years,
especially
since
we
deal
with
victims
who
are
looking
for
much
longer
period
of
time,
but
send
them
and
not
have
appropriate
treatment
is
not
the
best
thing
to
do
so.
We're
asking
city
council
to
help
us
with
the
state
to
find
appropriate,
secure
facilities
for
children
charged
with
very
serious
offenses,
who
are
very
young.
We
note
that
many
times
we
look
at
dual
jurisdiction
resolutions
where
children
are
held
until
they're
20.5
years
old
they'll
get
out.
A
They
have
six
years
of
of
Aftercare
probation
under
the
supervision
of
our
juvenile
probation
department.
Then
we
have
them
often
on
probation
for
a
period
of
time
in
the
adult
system,
making
sure
that
if
there
are
any
violations
that
they
are
held
appropriately
accountable,
given
that
we'd
like
to
ask
city
council
to
work
with
us
to
help
the
state
develop
appropriate
programming
in
the
state
prison
system
for
young
offenders,
we
have
a
number
of
young
people
who
are
going
to
be
18
years
old
or
19
years
old.
A
We're
going
to
go
into
the
state
system,
we're
asking
that
we
helped
find
a
way
for
the
state
to
approach
to
treat
them
appropriately.
They
need
educational
opportunities
and
job
opportunities
in
the
state
prisons.
They
need
to
be
rehabilitated,
not
just
punished
and
we're
looking
for
assistance
in
negotiations
with
the
state
to
try
and
do
that.
The
United
States
Supreme
Court
has
recognized
the
importance
of
adolescent
development
and
treating
our
kids,
because
adolescent
development
is
the
Cornerstone
of
the
laws
that
have
been
implemented
by
the
Supreme
Court
over
the
last
decade.
A
We
think
that
we
should
be
helping
the
state
prisons
and
our
state
facilities
adapt
themselves
to
treating
children
like
children,
not
like
young
adults,
not
like
adults.
In
addition,
I
want
to
point
out
that
the
District
Attorney's
office
has
helped
with
prevention.
During
the
last
year,
the
DA's
office
has
given
out
over
40
grants
totaling
over
a
million
dollars.
Monies
have
come
from
forfeiture
funds
and
we've
tried
to
find
programs
that
that
that
do
not
have
a
large
following,
but
are
doing
good
things
with
young
people,
and
we
think
we've
been
successful
with
that.
A
In
addition,
I
had
the
Good
Fortune
of
working
as
co-chair
of
the
Attorney
General's
National
task
force
on
children's
exposed
to
exposure
to
violence.
At
that
time
that
we
produced
a
report
in
a
local
person,
Dr
Theodore,
Corbin,
who's,
medical
director
of
healing,
hurt
people
and
co-director
of
the
center
for
non-violence
and
social
justice
testified
before
our
committee.
A
There
was
a
recommendation
coming
out
of
there
that
we
should
develop
and
provide
trauma-informed
care
at
all,
hospital-based,
Trauma,
Centers
and
emergency
departments
for
all
children
exposed
to
violence
according
to
Dr
Corbin,
without
intervention,
hospitals,
discharge,
violent
injured
patients,
because
the
same
violent
environment
where
they
were
injured
without
a
prescription
for
staying
safe
and
with
Community
pressures
to
sink
Revenge.
Too
often,
this
results
in
a
revolving
door
of
violence,
causing
even
more
injuries,
arrests,
incarcerations
and
sadly,
deaths
when
Dr
Corbin
testified.
A
He
talked
about
young
people
who
were
appearing
before
him
and
was
shot
once
and
coming
back
again
being
shot
a
second
time.
So
I
would
like
to
encourage
the
committee
to
to
pursue
the
possibilities
of
having
the
trauma-informed
care
of
all
at
all
hospitals
and
Trauma
Centers,
so
that
children
can
receive
the
proper
treatment
before
they
return
to
their
committees.
We're
talking
about,
as
was
pointed
out
by
the
chief,
the
the
acting
commissioner
for
police,
that
there
are
literally
thousands
of
children
who
are
being
shot
every
year.
A
We
need
to
do
what
we
can
for
them
in
addition
to
what
we're
doing
at
the
DA's
office
with
victims
who
are
involved
with
the
cares
program
or
victims
where
someone
is
arrested,
we
intervene
actively
there,
but
we
don't
get
a
chance
to
intervene
in
all
shooting
cases,
so
that
is
what
I
have
to
say
at
this
time.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
before
you
committee.
A
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Good
afternoon,
chairman
Johnson
and
council,
member
Gautier
and
council
members
of
the
committee
on
gun
bombs,
my
name
is
Faustino
Castro,
Jimenez
and
I
am
the
chief
of
probation
for
the
juvenile
unit
for
probation
and
family
court
with
me,
our
Deputy
directors,
Amy
Warner,
Charlotte,
Flynn,
Gina,
Kozlowski
and
supervisor
Kevin
Gord.
Well,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
today
on
this
very
important
issue.
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The
probation
department
has
jurisdiction
for
youth
under
the
age
of
18
who
have
been
arrested
and
their
matters
have
been
petitioned
to
juvenile
court
via
a
new
referral
or
through
the
decertification
process
for
direct
fall
juveniles,
which
are
initially
heard
in
Criminal
Court
placed
on
supervision.
We
have
jurisdiction
up
to
the
age
of
21.,
consistent
with
our
statutory
mandate,
with
respect
to
a
balance
and
restorative
justice
approach.
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Once
the
case
plans
develop,
we
incorporate
a
graduate
response,
approach
and
maximizes
the
use
of
incentives
and
interventions
that
are
incremental
and
proportionate.
We
are
incentivized
incentivizing
youth
with
tangible
and
non-tangible
incentives
to
complete
supervision
goals.
Examples
of
tangible
incentives
include
gift
cards,
phone
chargers,
cell
phone
cases,
earbuds
and
book
bags,
just
name
a
few
from
the
onset
of
a
new
referral.
We
also
work
with
our
dbh
partners
to
evaluate
behavioral,
psychological
or
traumatic
events
that
youth
may
have
had
or
is
experiencing
when
appropriate.
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This
is
done
through
a
court
order,
evaluation
where
recommendations
occur
for
evidence-based
programming,
such
as
family,
functional
therapy
or
fft,
with
respect
to
community
opportunities
for
our
youth
and
recognizing
that
one
in
three
families
in
Philadelphia
work
with
poverty.
We
are
thankful
that
city
council
has
worked
to
allocate
22
million
in
Grants
to
Grassroots
organizations
to
work
with
our
young
people
and
offer
families
in
need
additional
services
that
are
available
throughout
the
city.
Other
community-based
services
we
use
are
for
evening
reporting
centers
that
are
funded
through
DHS,
which
continue
to
work
with
our
high-risk
population.
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For
you
to
have
gun
related
charges,
we
have
increased
community
and
home
business
from
once.
A
month
to
four
times
a
month,
we
are
using
GPS
monitoring
as
an
alternative
to
secure
detention.
Gps
is
not
only
used
as
a
safety
enhancement
to
supervision,
but
also
to
place
movement
restrictions
on
youth
to
keep
them
away
from
neighborhoods,
where
they
may
likely
be
shocked
or
killed,
while
at
a
rival
group's
neighborhood.
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We
currently
monitor
between
280
and
300
unit
on
GPS.
We
are
involved
in
the
group
intervention
project
or
gvi,
where
we
have
identified
15
address
youth,
our
family
court
judges
are
constantly
reviewing
cases
and
based
on
safety
of
the
youth,
the
charges
and
other
safety
factors
that
the
family
might
bring
into
us.
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They
are
determining
if
a
use
needs
are
best
met
at
a
residential
care
facility
or
in
a
community-based
setting,
and
additionally,
as
to
engagement,
we
have
connected
you
to
positive
physical
activities
through
sports
for
Juvenile
Justice,
which
is
a
network
of
four
providers
that
include
or
introduces
young
people
to
non-traditional
Sports
such
as
golf
tennis,
martial
arts
and
softball
70
of
our
youth
particip
participated
in
these
programs.
Last
year,
we
have
just
started
our
summer
work
campaign
to
enroll
as
many
youth
as
possible
to
summer
employment
opportunities
offered
through
pyn.
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We
need,
however,
job
opportunities
that
are
career
oriented
for
our
older
population
who
have
graduated
high
school
with
our
new
probation
community
relations
unit.
Along
with
our
system
Partners,
we
have
been
involved
in
multiple
community
events
to
offer
resources
and
engage
Youth
and
community
members.
In
fact,
we
just
had
one
last
week,
I
believe
April
6th
at
the
Stenton
Parks
rec
center
and
we're
about
40
partners
that
were
there,
they
were
offering
resources
and
they
were
doing
doing
food
giveaways,
which
was
a
great
event
for
our
community.
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But
although
community-based
agencies
and
Outreach
events
certainly
are
a
great
resources
to
reduce
violence,
the
number
of
guns
flooding
our
street
is
still
overwhelmingly
high,
and
what
is
most
Troublesome
is
that
our
youth
can
access
these
weapons
relatively
easy.
89
youth
have
been
arrested
and
charged
on
gun
related
charges
since
the
beginning
of
this
year.
Moreover,
the
use
of
social
media
by
our
youth
has
certainly
not
helped
to
decrease,
gun,
bonds
and
gun
related
incidents.
Negative
peer
influences
have
not
helped
are
older.
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Individuals
who
use
our
young
people
to
commit
other
crimes
has
certainly
not
helped,
and
during
the
pandemic
closure
of
many
agencies
across
the
city
that
provided
an
outlet
for
our
young
people
also
did
not
help.
Despite
significant
reductions
in
the
number
of
Youth
being
supervised
on
the
probation
supervision,
we
recognize
that
we
can
do
better
and
there
is
still
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
with
our
young
people
entering
the
system,
including
a
more
symbiotic
relationship
with
the
school
district.
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The
Pennsylvania
juvenile
court
judges,
commission
tracks
and
evaluates
County
recidivism
rates
two
years
after
a
case
has
been
closed.
It's
on
the
website.
In
the
last
report,
the
commission
indicated
that
Philadelphia's
rates
in
2016
17,
18
and
2019
dropped
from
20
to
16,
to
13,
to
12,
respectively,
to
place
in
perspective,
the
precipitous
drop
in
population
entering
our
Juvenile
Justice
System
4057
petitions
filed
in
2012
and
as
of
last
year,
1730..
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But
we
need
to
stay
focused
on
prevention.
We
have
open
lines
of
communication
with
the
school
district
and
are
working
with
school
principals
and
the
safety
office
by
sharing
information.
Regarding
adjudicated
youth
on
our
supervision,
many
of
these
conversations,
I've
had
with
Chief
Kevin,
Bethel
and
I,
know
that,
for
instance,
one
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
is
we're
having
our
officers
involved
in
some
of
the
meetings
that
are
occurring
with
the
school
district
and
that
the
school
principals
are
having
with
regard
to
kids
that
are
actually
creating
challenges
within
the
school.
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And
how
is
it
that
we
can
intervene,
but
we
can
only
intervene
with
kids
that
have
been
a
judge,
delinquent
and
our
place
on
supervision,
because
that
is
our
jurisdiction.
We
can
certainly
provide
services,
for
instance,
preventive
work
that
the
court
officers,
the
court
offers
and
other
services
that
the
court
offers
as
well,
but
we
can
only
intervene
if
a
specific,
for
instance,
we
get
calls
all
the
time
from
principals
saying:
hey,
we
have
a
kid
Donnie
he's
creating
Havoc
he's
fighting
a
lot
he's
assaulting
kids.
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What
can
you
do
if
a
kid
is
not,
for
instance,
on
GPS
or
if
a
youth
is
not
unsupervision
or
if
a
user
is
not
consent
to
create
the
footage,
education,
Insurance,
probation
or
any
of
all
the
programs
that
there
are
court
ordered
programs?
Unfortunately,
we
cannot
intervene.
However,
we
do
understand
and
recognize
that
many
of
the
population
that
the
school
district
serves
is
the
same
population
that
will
come
to
us.
So
what
is
it
that
we
can
do?
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That
is
why
I
preface
my
comments
by
saying
we
need
a
more
symbiotic
relationship
with
the
school
district.
One
of
the
things
that
we
are
doing
is
that
we
are
involved
in
one
of
their
initiatives,
in
fact,
is
the
one
that's
called
the
youth
I
think
Chief
Kevin
Bethel
actually
alluded
to
it,
which
is
being
piloted
at
Bartram,
High,
School,
and
hopefully
you
know
they
spread
this
initiative
across
the
city
of
Philadelphia
to
other
schools
and
so
we're
involved
in
those
conversations.
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How
can
we
help
because
any
time
an
arrest
comes
through
my
desk
or
a
shooting
comes
through
my
desk?
The
first
thing
I
think
about
it
is
what
else
could
I
have
done
better
because
I
have
to
be
held
accountable?
I
have
responsibility
to
the
kids
and
families
of
Philadelphia
who
are
actually
on
our
supervision
and
I
can
do
something
to
prevent
them
from
getting
Shadow
killed.
Many
of
the
parents
I
get
calls
from
parents
saying.
What
can
you
do?
What
can
you
do
to
prevent?
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My
kid
is
involved
with
with
these
other
groups
or
other
you
know,
facets
in
Philadelphia
that
are
actually
pulling
my
kid
in
you
know
into
this
type
of
crime:
delinquency
in
criminality
I.
The
first
thing
I
do
is
take
a
look
at
to
see
if
the
young
person
has
a
record.
If
the
young
person
has
a
record
does
not
have
a
record.
Unfortunately,
there's
nothing.
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I
can
do
except
refer
the
young
person
to
DHS
or
refer
the
young
person
to
DHS
or
or
excuse
me,
the
school
district
or
any
other
entity
that
might
offer
those
type
of
preventive
services,
and
we
have
some
in
the
court.
If
a
young
person
does
have
a
record,
you
can
believe
that
I
will
do
everything
possible
to
keep
that
young
people
young
person
safe,
because
one
thing
I
keep
telling
people
is-
is
that
I
have
to
I'm
in
the
business
now
of
saving
lives.
U
Saving
lives
because
the
young
person
might
a
young
person
might
call
us
or
parent
might
say
my
kid
is
going
to
get
shot
and
killed.
What
can
you
do
right?
Sometimes
the
option
is
I
have
to
either
hold
the
child
in
custody
based
upon
hearing
that
testimony
that
happens
in
court
and
that
I
provide
my
officers
provide
that
testimony
to
the
judge
saying
the
parent
is
asking
for
us
to
do
something
intervene.
What
is
it
that
we
can
do
and
then
we
offer
Solutions?
We
offer
interventions.
U
First,
we
offer
the
community
base,
because
the
juvenile
Act
requires
us
to
always
look
at
the
least
research
jobs,
and
then
we
look
at,
of
course,
any
secured
attention,
so
the
other.
The
last
thing
I
want
to
just
mention,
is
with
respect
to
enforcement.
The
juvenile
probation
department
is
providing
information
to
the
FBI
card,
yanking
task
force
and
have
offered
our
assistance
to
the
newly
created
car
jacking
unit
that
the
district
attorney
has
just
created,
so
we're
working
hand
in
hand.
U
In
my
in
a
large
scheme
of
things,
if
you
think
about
the
city
of
Philadelphia
and
how
much
the
the
police
department
has
confiscated,
we
need
to
recognize
and
think
this
is
about
just
young
people
under
the
age
of
21,
under
supervision
that
we
have
gone
out
and
because
we've
on
social
media
or
any
other
sources,
sometimes
we
get
a
parent
saying,
Hey,
listen,
you
know,
Johnny
may
have
a
weapon
in
his
room
and
guess
what
we
have
to
act
on
it.
Why?
U
Because
that
weapon
can
lead
to
a
crime
all
right,
and
so
we've
done.
We.
We
continue
to
try
to
intervene
as
much
as
possible,
provide
information
to
our
parents
as
much
as
possible,
because
one
thing
we
also
know
and
I
have
to
recognize
that
we
cannot
do
it
without
the
parents.
If
the
parents,
the
parents,
are
our
main
partner
and
if
they
do
not
help
us
with
regards
to
kids
that
are
placed
on
the
supervision
to
assure
they
positively
transition
out
of
the
court
system,
then
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to.
U
This
is
a
community
effort
with
our
Community
Partners,
our
school-based
partners,
our
parents
and
certainly
city
council.
So
we
need
your
support
with
regard
to
this
issue
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
having
this
critical
and
important
conversation.
My
staff
and
I
are
available
for
any
questions
that
you
may
have,
so
thank
you.
J
J
In
our
experience,
three
factors
make
communities
here
in
Philadelphia
and
throughout
the
United
States
more
vulnerable
to
community
violence,
and
these
three
factors
are
one:
a
long
history
of
racial
and
socioeconomic
segregation
and
disinvestment,
where
residents
perceive
real
threats
to
their
personal
safety
and
three,
but
cannot
access
resources
or
leverage
relationships
to
change
the
conditions
they
experience.
There
are
additional
factors
that
contribute
to
individuals
living
with
these
Within
These
communities
to
becoming
even
more
likely
to
participate
in
or
be
the
victim
of
violence.
J
The
best
approach
to
reducing
gun
violence
among
youth
are
those
that
address
and
do
not
criminalize
the
very
real
fear.
Young
people
experience
when
navigating
the
conditions
of
their
lives
and
their
neighborhoods
I
am
very
encouraged
that
yeah
Philly
was
invited
to
participate
today
and
they
provided
what
I
think
is
the
most
powerful
and
impactful
testimony
again.
They
are
carrying
guns
because
they
are
not
safe
and
they
don't
perceive
themselves
to
be
safe.
They
have
been
the
victims
of
crime
and
or
have
close
friends
who
are
the
victims
of
crime.
J
So
we
have
to
challenge
the
assumption
that
increasing
the
number
of
arrests
or
adjudications
or
convictions,
or
adding
more
youth
putting
them
on
on
GPS
for
illegal
gun
possession
is
going
to
improve
Public
Safety.
It
is
not
in
Philadelphia
enforcement
of
non-violent
firearm
laws
is
directed
almost
exclusively
at
communities
of
color
and
in
recent
years,
young
men
under
the
age
of
25.
Yet
despite
the
exponential
increases
in
arrests
and
prosecution
for
unlawful
possession
of
firearms
gun,
violence
persists
at
high
levels.
J
This
tracks,
with
a
recent
Loyola
University
study
that
found
people
arrested
for
and
convicted
of
non-violent
possessory
Firearms,
are
not
those
contributing
to
community
violence.
Last
year,
unlawful
possession
of
firearm
was
the
lead
charge
in
21
of
our
delinquency
cases
for
almost
half
of
the
127
people
facing
these
charges.
This
allegation
represented
their
only
arrest
last
year
and
of
those
37
of
the
127
had
no
previous
contacts
with
delinquent
delinquency
system
at
all
all,
but
three
of
the
127
young
people
lived
in
areas
most
impacted
by
gun
violence.
Even
with
no
prior
delinquency.
J
The
defender
Association
recommends
creating
opportunities
to
divert
young
people
charged
with
possessory
firearm
offenses
away
from
the
Juvenile
Justice
System
programs
that
divert
non-violent
possessory
offenses
away
from
traditional
system.
Solutions
have
shown
that
we
can
safely
address
non-violent
possessory
offenses.
J
We
can
do
this
without
subjecting
our
youth
to
detention,
adjudication
and
out
of
home
placements,
that
deepen
system
entanglement
and
destabilize
families
and
communities.
Outcomes
in
Minneapolis
and
Brooklyn
leads
lead.
The
Giffords
Law
Center
recommend
that
jurisdictions
partner
with
community-based
efforts
to
divert
some
of
the
individuals
facing
these
types
of
charges,
and
we
believe
these
programs
are
particularly
well
suited
for
youth.
We
recommend
investments
in
programs
that
provide
or
connect
families
to
trauma
treatment
for
children
residing
in
communities
with
high
rates
of
violence
and
those
who
have
witnessed
or
experienced
violence
themselves.
J
25
of
the
youth
we
represented
last
year
in
delinquency
cases
had
a
prior
active
case.
Independency
Court
25
had
a
prior
active
case,
independency
Court
in
Philadelphia,
one
in
five
of
our
adult
black
male
clients,
who
were
arrested
more
than
once
last
year,
had
a
history
of
involvement
with
our
dependency
system
as
a
child.
Only
nine
young
people
who
be
represented
in
delinquency
cases
last
year
lived
in
a
census
tract
where
no
reported
shootings
took
place.
J
Only
nine
more
than
three
quarters
of
the
602
youth
who
face
delinquency
charges
last
year
resided
in
one
of
the
areas
defined
as
most
impacted
or
impacted
by
gun
violence.
More
than
three
quarters
of
the
602
Philadelphia
youth
44
of
our
youthful
arrestees
lived
in
one
of
the
most
impacted
areas.
32
percent
of
our
youthful
arrestees
live
in
in
one
of
the
impacted
areas
for
our
young
clients
who
reside
in
the
neighborhoods,
most
impacted
by
gun
violence.
J
Many
reside
within
feat
of
multiple
shoot-ins,
and
when
we
took
a
closer
look
at
our
youthful
clients
charged
with
possessory
firearm
offenses,
we
noticed
our
clients
in
the
Strawberry
Mansion.
Neighborhood
of
the
city,
for
example,
live
an
average
of
within
750
feet
of
five
shootings
per
year.
One
child
lived
within
750
feet
of
13
shoot-ins
last
year
in
parts
of
West
Philadelphia.
Our
clients
on
average
live
750
feet
from
four
shootings
last
year
with
at
least
one
child
living
within
750
feet
of
10
shootings.
J
In
short,
our
youth
are
suffering
their
life
experiences
are
driving
their
entanglement
with
our
dependency
and
delinquency
systems,
and
until
we
begin
to
address
the
community
level
factors
and
the
trauma,
grief,
fear
and
conditions
that
reflect
the
poverty
of
some
of
those
most
vulnerable
citizens
face.
We
can
expect
this
epidemic
of
violence
to
get
worse
before
it
gets
better.
J
Our
representation
of
children
involved
in
delinquent
dependency
and
delinquency
systems
and
adults
involved
in
the
criminal
legal
system
puts
us
in
a
unique
position
to
provide
a
Continuum
Continuum
of
Care
for
those
with
the
highest
need
with
the
right
investment,
particularly
in
our
social
services
and
in
our
child
advocacy
unit.
We
can
serve
as
a
One-Stop
shop
for
clients
and
help
to
stem
the
tide
of
violence.
Thank
you
again
for
inviting
the
defender
Association
to
testify
and
for
considering
the
ideas
we've
presented
today.
J
Q
Q
Worries
correct
good
afternoon
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
to
the
special
committee
on
gun,
violence
prevention.
As
I
said,
my
name
is
Bianca
vanhador
and
I'm.
The
executive
director
of
the
youth
sentencing
and
re-entry
project
ysrp
uses
direct
service
to
transform
the
experiences
of
children
prosecuted
in
the
adult
criminal
legal
system,
including
supporting
them
throughout
their
case
and
as
they
return
home
from
incarceration.
Q
We
also
use
policy
advocacy
to
help
co-create
a
world
in
which
children
are
treated
as
children
when
they
are
when
they
come
in
contact
with
the
criminal
legal
system.
We
understand
that
as
young
people,
our
client
Partners,
have
goals
and
aspirations.
We
understand
that
they
have
brains
that
are
still
developing
and
that
they
need
adults
to
guide
their
choices
and
keep
them
safe
for
context.
The
nature
of
our
work
means
that
we
partner
with
young
people
who
have
been
charged
with
acts
of
significant
harm
and
or
violence
at
ysrp.
Q
Q
We
don't
want
to
see
harm
come
to
them
any
more
than
we
want
to
see
them
cause
harm
to
anyone
else.
We
concentrate
on
what
young
people
need
to
heal,
which
is
a
question.
That's
all
too
rare
for
young
people
in
general,
but
especially
for
black
and
brown
youth
I
will
not
read
my
full
written
testimony
today.
Q
I've
submitted
that
to
council,
because
my
points
were
made
more
eloquently
and
succinctly
by
my
colleagues
at
yeah
Philly
and
by
Keisha
Hudson,
who
just
preceded
me:
I
encourage
you
to
replay
man
man's
testimony
and
his
answers
to
council's
questions.
We
were
asked
to
comment
today
on
the
unmet
need
in
terms
of
programs
and
legislative
Solutions.
Q
As
for
recommendations,
I
have
the
following
to
share
that
under
underscores.
Some
of
what
you've
heard
already
number
one
ask
young
people
what
they
need
and
have
the
resources
and
infrastructure
to
provide
it
as
quickly
as
we
move
to
arrest
young
people
and
remove
them
from
their
communities.
Number
two
pause
and
deeply
investigate
any
programs
policies
or
practices
that
emphasize
surveillance
and
control
over
responding
directly
to
what
young
people
need.
An
angle.
Ankle
monitor
is
not
a
service,
nor
is
it
required
to
provide
support
to
a
young
person.
Q
Any
pro
number
three
any
program
or
policies
that
are
implemented
and
or
funded,
should
begin
with
the
assumption
that
young
people
deserve
to
live
full
lives
with
dignity,
including
having
their
basic
needs
met.
Measures
of
success
should
prioritize
whether
young
people
have
met
their
self-identified
goals
and
not
simply
be
based
on
the
low
bar
of
recidivism.
In
fact,
the
National
Academy
of
Sciences
recently
released
a
report
that
shows
in
great
detail
how
recidivism
is
the
wrong
measure
for
safety,
Rehabilitation
or
decisions
from
harmful
activities
and
four.
Q
We
should
recognize
and
take
seriously
what
man,
man
and
Keisha
Hudson
before
me
lifted
up
that
young
people
are
navigating
safety
as
best
they
can
with
the
tools
that
they
have
before
them.
As
the
adults,
we
are
responsible
for
creating
the
commit
conditions
to
mitigate
the
harm
that
excuse
me
that
mitigate
to
mitigate
the
harm
that
looms
large
over
them
as
they
navigate
their
daily
their
daily
lives.
Q
Finally,
I
want
to
implore
everyone,
who's
listening
and
city
council
and
anyone
with
any
influence
to
make
a
difference
at
some
point
today.
I
would
ask
you
to
pause
and
think
about
someone
who
loves
you
think
about
the
person
that
celebrates
your
successes.
Think
about
the
person
who
showed
up
for
you
to
hold
you
accountable
when
you
were
treating
yourself
or
someone
else
poorly.
Q
How
did
that
person
show
up
what?
What
ways
did
they
communicate
with
you?
What
opportunities
and
access
did
they
give
you
that
helped?
You
shift
in
a
way
towards
growth,
because
those
are
the
the
the
interventions
that
we
need
to
be
lifting
up,
not
the
ones
that
seek
to
continue
to
punish
poverty,
punish
decisions
that
are
made
by
young
people
whose
brains
are
still
developing
right.
Q
Let's
remember
that
even
those
who
have
been
involved
in
Acts
of
significant
harm
wants
Safety
and
Security,
and
we
heard
that
emphatically
from
man.
Man
today
and
I
know
that
there
are
thousands
of
young
people
throughout
this
city
who
want
that
safety
as
well.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
and
I
look
forward
to
answering
any
questions.
D
I
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
questions
for
Keisha
or
Bianca
because
they
were
just
so
thorough
in
their
testimony
and
in
their
recommendations
and
I
do
want
to.
Thank
you
all
not
only
for
the
work
that
you
do
on
behalf
of
young
people
on
a
daily
basis,
but
for
your
passionate
advocacy
and
lifting
up
your
the
experiences
of
young
people
to
make
policy
and
systems
changes,
I
did
have
one
question
for
Bianca
I
wanted
to
know,
since
you
don't
think
that
recidivism
is
the
right
sort
of
measure.
D
I
wanted
to
hear
you
talk
about
what
is
the
right
measure
and
then
I
have
a
question
for
Bob
listindy.
If
he's
still
on
you
know,
I
do
have
to
ask
about
his
testimony
on
recidivism,
because
that
is
a
measure
that
we
use
heavily
now
and
I.
Think
I
heard
him
say
that
the
recidivism
rates
that
you
know
he's
seeing
in
his
work
at
vao
is
57.
So
I
wanted
Bob
to
talk
about
any
insights.
He
has
on
how
to
bring
that
down
effectively
through
better
intervention.
Q
Sure
I'm
happy
to
go
first
I.
It
helps
to
talk
about
why
recidivism
is
a
poor
measure
before
talking
about
what
the
right
measure
is,
and
so
what
I've,
what
we've
known
for
a
long
time
and
that
it
helps
to
have
validated
research
to
support,
is
when
we're
looking
at
recidivism
number
one
a
lot
of
people
Define
it
differently.
Q
So,
even
when
we're
looking
at
it
as
a
measure,
we're
not
all
always
talking
about
the
same
things,
some
people
talk
about
rearrest
is
recidivism,
reconviction
reincarceration,
so
we're
not
always
measuring
Apples
to
Apples.
Secondly,
even
if
you
think
about
those
measures
that
doesn't
tell
you
very
much
about
the
health
and
safety
and
security
of
a
person's
life,
it
tells
you
did
the
person
go
back
to
jail
right.
What
we
know
about
communities
that
young
people
come
from
is
that
they
are
over
policed.
Q
They
are
over
surveilled,
so
it's
more
likely
that
a
young
person
is
going
to
come
in
contact
with
a
police
officer
just
walking
outside
of
their
door.
It
says
nothing
about
whether
they're
actually
engaged
in
in
criminal
activity
number
two
just
capturing
whether
someone
is
rearrested,
reconvicted
or
reincarcerated
also
tells
you
very
little
about
what
resources
and
support
they
have
around
them
to
help
them
navigate
the
world
in
ways
that
don't
involve
involve
harm.
What
the
national
Institute
of
Sciences
says,
the
measure
measures
should
be.
Q
Are
the
things
that
Keisha
Hudson
just
talked
about
are
in
the
indices
of
safety
support?
Does
this
person
have
their
basic
needs
met?
Do
they
have
their?
Are
they
able
to
make
significant
movement
towards
their
goals
and
aspirations,
because
those
are
the
things
that
actually
help
someone
shift
from
from
a
help
shift
from
shift
this
distance,
you
know
into
the
systems
if
I
am
worried,
I'm
less
likely
to
there
are.
There
are
a
whole
host
of
indicators
of
success.
Q
We,
when
we
are
looking
at
a
young
person
that
has
yet
to
be
involved
in
the
criminal
legal
system.
We
are
not
capturing
we're
not
celebrating
the
fact
that
they
didn't
go.
We're
celebrating
the
fact
that
they
have
close
ties
to
their
family,
that
they're
engaged
in
school,
that
they
have
a
safe
place
to
live
right
and
so
and
what
we've
learned
at
ysrp
is
that
that's
the
way
we
just
do
things
we.
Q
We
ask
young
people,
what
are
your
goals
and
we
are
holding
them
accountable
to
making
meaningful
steps
towards
those
goals
and
offering
the
support
and
resources
they
need
to
be
able
to
achieve
them,
and
and
when
we
are
focused
on
doing
something
when
I'm
focused
on
the
the
next
thing
that
I
need
to
do
for
work
or
the
steps
I
need
to
take
to
buy
a
house.
I'm
less
focused-
and
this
is
going
to
be
a
very
simple
example
and
I.
Q
So
I
don't
mean
to
trivialize
what
we're
talking
about
here,
but
when
I'm
focused
on
those
things,
I'm
less
focused
on
scrolling
through
YouTube,
meaningless
videos
right
I.
If
I
am
focused
on
the
things
that
are
going
to
move
my
life
forward,
I
am
less
focused
on
the
things
that
are
going
to
hold
me
back.
So
if
we
are
talking
to
young
people
about
what
they
need
and
what
resources
we
need
to
wrap
around
them
to
make
it
more
likely
that
they
will
engage
in
the
things
that
will
help
them
desist
from
crime.
Q
J
And
I
just
want
to
chime
in
really
quickly
I'm,
not
telling
anyone
in
Council
what
they
don't
already
know
that
that
there
is
so
much
power
in
the
attorney-client
confidentiality
right.
We,
our
clients,
know
that
they
can
talk
to
us
about
anything,
including
things
they
will
not
tell
their
mother
or
their
father
or
their
Pastor.
They
they're
going
to
talk
to
our
Advocates
and
we
can
have
our
clients,
sometimes
for
a
year
or
two,
our
adult
clients,
sometimes
for
three
years
as
their
case
winds.
J
The
way
through
the
criminal
justice
system
and
need
into
the
reason
I
use.
The
words
Continuum
of
Care
is
that
we
need
to
be
brought
into
these
conversations
as
we
are
today,
but
also
what
are
our
recommendations
and
what
are
our
Solutions
and
you
know
just
an
additional
point
on
dependency.
Philadelphia
leads
the
nation
in
the
number
of
black
and
brown
kids
who
are
removed
from
their
families
and
placed
in
the
dependency
or
the
foster
care
system.
J
That
is
a
statistic
that
is
disturbing.
It's
alarming
and,
as
I
said
before,
when
I
said
the
top
three,
that
this
disruption
of
the
family
unit
is
a
driver
and
we
have
to
go
all
the
way
back
to
look
at
what
are
we
doing
to
Families?
How
are
we
best
serving
our
youth
and
keeping
them
with
their
families
and
given
the
family's
support
at
the
earliest
possible
point.
A
A
We
helped
provide
data
from
the
District
Attorney's
office
and
they
went
back
again
from
the
years
2016
to
6
30
22
22,
the
recidivism
rate
was
57
of
Youth
arrested
and
then
for
where
there
were
two
or
more
arrests,
the
rearrest
rate
jumped
to
81
I.
Do
not
believe
that
recidivism
should
be
the
primary
criteria
used
either.
However,
because
we
are
prosecutors
in
this
Criminal
Justice
System,
it
is
one
of
the
indicia
used
to
measure
whether
or
not
the
system
is
successful.
A
Overall,
if
you
have
a
50,
seven
or
eighty
one
percent
rate,
you
are
not
being
successful
at
rehabilitating
young
people.
You're
not
I
am
a
parent
of
five
children.
The
thing
that
I
look
at
for
my
kids
is
whether
or
not
they
have
jobs.
Good
education.
Are
they
getting
married?
What
kinds
of
things
are
they
doing
that
are
socially
acceptable
and
socially
desirable?
So
I
think
this
is
an
opportune
moment
for
city
council
and
other
interested
parties
to
Define.
A
What
Philadelphia
is
a
criteria
for
outcomes
and
success
should
be
city
council
can
dictate
that
to
the
criminal
justice
system.
You
know,
as
a
prosecutor,
I
cannot
I
can
only
measure
what
is
happening
or
ask
private
Consultants
to
measure
what
is
and
try
and
push
forward
ideas
that
make
good
sense.
My
first
recommendation
to
city
city
council
was
that
you
should
have
youth
at
the
table.
They
should
be
involved
in
decision
making.
A
That
is
what
I
believe
so
I'm
really
not
far
away
from
others,
who
think
that
this
is
not
the
best
way
to
go
about
it,
but
also
as
a
prosecutor,
I'm
telling
city
council
what
we
have
and
what's
going
on
in
the
system
and
when
I
look
at
these
numbers
and
know
that
81
percent
of
the
youth
are
African-American,
14
are
latinx
and
the
remaining
six
percent
are
other
I
know
that
and
I
look
at
the
poverty
rates.
I
can
tell
you
exactly
where
these
kids
were
arrested.
A
They
are
in
the
poverty
areas
of
the
city,
so
we
need
to
do
something
about
it,
but
that's
something
that
city
council
has
to
decide.
It
wants
to
do
as
a
prosecutor.
I
need
to
make
sure
that
you
have
adequate
information
based
upon
data
that
we've
been
able
to
collect
from
our
new
case
management
system
and
data,
that's
being
collected
by
others
throughout
the
city.
So
that
is
my
answer
for
for
council
member.
B
A
B
B
When
I
came
to
court
with
my
parents,
who
told
me
you
know
he
got
this
saying
like
look
on
that
ledge
and
you
know
think
about
you
know
sending
me
away,
but
because
I
was
able
to
show
that
in
school,
I
had
pretty
good
attentions,
because
you
know
my
parents
made
sure
that
I
did
go
to
school.
My
behavior
might
have
been
threes
right,
but
if
you
put
me
on
probation
and
then
that
probation
officer
stayed
on
top
of
me,
you
hear
that
Castro
Jimenez
and
would
pop
up.
U
B
I
had
another
guy
who
was
a
state
representative
who
had
me
participating
at
the
Christmas
tree
YMCA
on
their
board
as
a
young
man.
So
for
me
it
was
mentorship
right.
It
was
people
wrapping
their
arms
around
me
and
believing
in
me,
and
really
helped
me
kind
of
navigate
through
this
is-
and
this
is
the
early
90s,
so
that
the
homicide
rate
we
all
know
is
already
filed
punching
in
the
early
90s
right,
no
different
than
what
we're
seeing
right
now.
B
But
you
know
part
of
this,
at
least
for
me,
as
a
young
man.
That
kind
of
actually
navigated
through
this
process
was
having
other
people
kind
of
wrap.
Their
honor
I
mean
kind
of
invest
in
me
early
on
right
and
hopefully
through
this
conversation
that
we're
having
and
I.
Thank
you
also
Bianca
for
pushing
this
conversation
to
another
level
of
regarding
what
is
recidivism
right
because
a
lot
of
times.
Yes,
we
look
at
it
from
bureaucratic
standpoint
as
long
as
they
don't
come
back
into
the
system.
B
That
means
you
must
be
doing
a
good
job
right,
but
but
you
don't
know
the
other
half
to
that
story.
Why
that
person
isn't
coming
inside
the
system,
they
cannot
be
inside
a
system
but
still
facing
various
challenges
of
life
and
so
I.
Thank
all
of
you
for
your
hard
work
and
your
dedication
and
Keisha.
Thank
you
for
stepping
up
always
to
the
plate
and
making
sure
that
juveniles
is
intricate
part
of
the
work
that
the
public
defender's
office
is
doing,
and
also
even
as
a
Young
Man
fresh
out
of
college
Mr.
B
Listen
to
me,
I
I
was
a
part
of
the
you
fade
panel
and
was
able
to
use
my
experience
growing
up
and
what
I've
learned
it
helped
me
change
my
life
with
other
young
men
who
I
still
have
interaction
with
today
through
that
particular
initiative
to
help
them
stay
on
the
right
path,
really
giving
them
a
second
chance,
and
so
I.
Thank
all
the
work
that
all
of
you
are
doing,
keep
up
the
good
work.
B
Obviously
this
won't
be
the
last
time
you'll
hear
from
this
committee
as
we
wrap
our
arms
around
and
addressing
what
I
believe
is
the
number
one
issue
here
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia
and
that's
gun
violence
in
particularly
amongst
our
young
people.
So
thank
you
very
much
any
other
questions
or
comments,
and
members
of
the
committee.
D
For
me.
This
was
extremely
valuable
and
uncovering
the
things
that
we
need
to
work
on
and
things
that
we
need
to
improve
as
a
city
and
and
know.
One
of
those
Solutions
was
more
important
than
having
young
people
actually
involved
in
the
in
the
policy
making
and
in
the
decision
making
to
ensure
that
what
we're
doing
actually
works
for
them.
B
Thank
you.
Councilman
Jamie
got
a
year
for
keeping
your
finger
on
the
pulse
and
making
sure
that
our
young
people
are
safe
but,
most
importantly,
that
we're
not
just
taking
a
solely
long.
The
traditional
law
enforcement
approach,
the
punitive
approach
but
beginning
investing
in
our
young
people
and
I
always
have
to
remind
people
and
Jamie.
You
said
you
say
this
as
well.
U
B
This
is
the
hard
work,
it's
easy
to
just
say:
let's
just
lock
them
up,
because
that
young
person
you
lock
up
and
you
sent
away
to
Juvia
Hall.
They
come
back
okay,
five
ten
years,
I
know
I
mean
again
as
I'm
elected
official
but
I'm
very,
very
still
close
to
my
neighborhood
I'm
elected
official,
the
neighborhood
in
which
I
grew
up
I'm
elected
official
neighbor,
in
which
I
changed
my
life
to
I
still
have
relationships,
individuals,
some
that's
doing
great,
some
that
are
in
challenging
situations.
B
But
this
is
the
hard
work,
because
there
are
no
throwaway
children
at
the
end
of
the
day
at
least
I
view
things,
because
no
one
looked
at
me
and
said
you
know
what
we
don't
want
to
support
this
show
man.
Let
them
go
ahead
and
stand
on
the
corner
and
continue
to
do
the
things
that
he's
doing
and
that's
coming
from
a
home
household
with
a
support
system.
Some
challenges
as
well,
but
for
the
most
part,
mores
and
values
was
there,
but
sometimes
we
do
what
we
want
to
do,
because
that
environment
always
tells
parents.
B
M
Itch
all
right,
so
you
know
with
all
the
downvines
that's
been
happening.
I
was
thinking
of
some
resources
that
make
a
hub
on
first,
as
Mentor
programs,
like
maybe
some
boot
camps,
come
help
like
some
military
boot
camps
could
help
just
trying
to
think
on
some
other
things
that
might
could
help.
These
teenagers,
like
mostly
everything,
has
made
me,
feel
like
parents
being
involved
with
fighting
with
the
students.
M
I
think
that
if
we
can
get
through
with
the
parents
first
and
then
try
to
work
away
with
the
kids,
because
it
maybe
starts
from
lack
of
love
and
affection,
attention
made
many
other
things
that
I
think.
The
reason
why
the
gun
violence
is
evolved,
like
a
lot
of
gun
violence
is
happening,
is
because
the
kids
are
like
trying
to
fit
in
and
they
don't
have
no
kind
of
love
or
affection
at
home.
B
Okay,
no
further
questions
from
members
of
this
committee
and
no
other
witnesses
to
testify.
Is
there
anyone
else
to
present
in
this
hearing
whose
name
has
not
been
called
or
anyone
who
is
wishing
to
provide
testimony
hearing
none
I
want
to
thank
all
the
panel
Witnesses
for
their
participation
today
we
value
your
opinions
with
that
being
said.
This
concludes
a
special
committee
on
gun
violence.