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From YouTube: CNCF Harbor's Community Zoom Meeting - March 22, 2023

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CNCF Harbor's Community Zoom Meeting

A

All right, hello, everyone today is March 22nd and as the official community meeting for Harbor, my name is Julian vasilev and I'm. The Death Row community manager for Harbor I'm gonna paste into the chat the link to our community meetings so feel free to add yourself and audio topics. As this is official Cynthia community meeting, please behave and follow the code of conduct with that said. I'm gonna share the community meetings notes for today.

A

All right, so we have few stuff added uh and yeah. So before we go to discussion topics any urgent things to you to discuss and to mention I know it's super late in China, so I, don't wanna use the time and to hold you like super late into the evening.

A

Okay, nothing urgent! Then turn you uh do you want to do. The demo uh should I stop sharing and then you.

B

A

Yeah yeah, thank you. Thank you. I'm gonna stop her now.

A

Okay, the floor is yours. Okay,.

B

um Oh guys um to uh today, I would like to share the enhancement we did in the harbor 2.8. So let's do the demo.

B

uh I'm, sorry, could you could you help my voice I.

A

Mean from let's just yeah, we we can hear you super well, but.

C

Not from the video not.

B

From the video yeah.

A

Yeah yeah sounds from the video is not there.

B

uh Sorry well wait a moment. I would like to originally.

A

I think it's it's about. Are you sharing from my from Mac? Yes,.

B

Yeah, you can see the travel 2.8. There are two major features. The first one is Blackpool with a vector which brings better management and debugging capabilities and also Implement UI experience. The second one is cloud events that allow Hardware users to send the webbook as Cloud events for maps, which can help Hardware connect to different vendors, who follow the all events back in formative ecosystem.

B

Next, let's do the demo uh here. I have one project, library and I have pushed one aspect Billboards in these projects and, firstly, let's create the workbook policy.

B

And you can see a new option as being added in the this page, that is payload format. There are two options default and file. Events by default is defaults. Default means the format is same as the previous hardware version and the CPU upgrade from old versions. There's no clicking change unless you change the format to Cloud events. Naturally, now, let's keep it our default for compilation.

B

Next, let's select all events and endpoint, let's copy the endpoint URL.

B

Okay, when you click this button, you can list the executions under this policy, this the UI change in the power 2.8 and then, let's pull the image benefits to trigger one Web book.

B

Okay, let's refresh.

B

You can see uh a new execution has been finished successfully and the status is success and the events type is aspectful because we close them in this.

B

Just now, and also you can see the payload data in this field when we click yet you can see more details from the uh 30 and also, if you click the copy button, you can copy this hello and when we click the exclusion, you can see the tasks under this explosions and the schedules and regression time and also uh you can click the logs for looking for the logs for web hook.

B

That's used for for the debugging scenario, okay from blog, you can see uh when when to run the website job and send me what payload and whether just to run the job, if you got the arrow from the remote endpoint, you can also see the logs from from hell.

B

Okay: let's go back to the raffle page. Tell this payload data is uh defaults and we can check it from the this webhook site. You can see the payload is same as the penalty data shows in the hardware UI page.

B

um The the the format is same with the previous version, because we choose the default format type. Now, let's try to change it. To our events, see what happens now. Let's change the formats triple events you can save and let's trigger the that triggers a tools too many bits again: okay, okay, you can see there are another and there is another excursions being finished successfully um you can see. The difference is the payload data, because we choose the format to call events.

B

You can see the payload format, the payload. It has been organized as the as cloudy events format and then, let's check it from the purple side. Yeah you can see. The content has been organized as the uh Cloud events spec described.

B

And also you can see, the content type has been changed to application file devices. Cloud events are Json by default. The content type is a participation Json.

B

You can also click this to see the logs.

B

So let's go back to our home page.

B

Unless you need to notice that consider from performance the web Hook is closing, history will only return latest 50 records for every policy, um however, have a background sweeper job to clean up the steel institutions which, in the final stages out of latest we teach, because if we have too many old exclusions under some excuse, some policy that will increase the database maintenance and no and downgrades performance when you list something questions, but this behavior is not only for Workbook just enabled for, while cooking the 2.8.

B

Actually it's a common logic which also applied to other synchronized jobs like replication, GC.

B

Okay, uh that's all the demo. Thank you.

B

Yeah: okay, uh any question.

C

Thank you. This looks very nice.

A

Yeah, thank you. um Can you can you provide the video please? So we can add it to some blog post or something or you you need to work it or is it okay? If you publish this one sure yeah so, can you somehow send me out the the video so I can upload it and work.

D

B

No, no problem I can send you from email.

A

Okay, thank you.

C

um Regarding questions, you know the web topic.

C

So I think this is not related to uh to Cloud events, but more in general, that uh kind of a have kind of a combining the audit logs and web hooks. You know somehow or having options to add other web hooks. You know like on other events, so the question is like: um can we can it be designed in a more flexible way that you could maybe register other types of events on top of what is default provided?

C

Can it be extended in a way that, let's say you could add other types event types via an API, for example, register I know we don't have to expose everything in the UI but I'm just thinking a bit more? It's not.

B

uh Actually, we uh actually, we defined the common interface in the cover code base. So uh if and if anyone wants to contribute the new event type, uh he just need to implement the common interface. Then he can easily to integrate their Customs event type to cover it's very easy. Just to implement one method. We provide the data source and, and then he just need to organization uh the this Source, the rich, get something from the data source and combine their custom data formats then encode to the byte to to their endpoints.

C

Okay, that's interesting yeah! That's that's good to know. Maybe you should get documented somehow an example and encourage others to add other events right, but.

B

That's good to.

E

C

That it's not very complicated.

C

I have no no questions.

A

I, don't have any other um questions, anyone anyone else.

A

Thank you for the demo again, all.

D

A

um Okay, uh I'm gonna share my screen. Let me save that thing again.

A

um All right: okay, I, have added a few stuff. um I've opened rpr into the community repository uh for unknown uh to be added as a PM Road. It's just instead of a Roger. We had a session today with him in the morning to uh show him around and um yeah to set up slack GitHub everything.

A

um The next thing is we discussed on Monday on the on the maintainers uh meeting um the update to the process. Oh there's a typo for the proposal process, so um volume I I saw your I'm. Sorry I saw your remote uh kind of hit them up to with my my initial thing. So it's like it's not exactly yours, but it's a few stuff from my site as well.

A

So if you uh take a look and the rest, because I hope that you streamline a bit the process for the um to the proposals, so we have stages and and and like we know where we are with that proposal, and um we can use that to also speed up a little bit the the review process and yeah when someone needs to to have something to to know how to approach it properly. So because it's right now, it's more more or less um unclear.

A

So if you can take a look at this one, it's a it's in the contributions, um dot, MD um contributing.nd file and what else um any questions about these two PRS.

A

Nope, okay, um some updates um I I narrowed down the things that I want to check on the um 45 minutes, um 45 seconds, video for the kubecon for the project update those are the things that I want to cover. I hope I can fit in in 45 seconds. It will be super challenging. So maybe something will be left out like this one I don't know we'll see.

A

Do we have a release date for two eight.

E

Yeah I think we have yeah to calendar plan. The TA data is uh April 17., uh just in the week of the coupon I. Think at the beginning that.

A

Will be super cool, yeah.

E

I will try our best to meet at the land.

C

Yeah but I mean you can say: April April right so I think so. Yeah.

E

The whole orange just a quick uh uh another question just want to know more detail about this 45. Second video, so you will cover all the sense in 45. Second, video.

A

F

A

I'm not gonna, do uh demo as uh channel did that's.

E

Impossible but.

A

uh You remember last time: uh I did the same. The same kind of video for.

E

Yeah right, so it's going to be the.

A

Same the same format uh bullet points. What we've done, what like a major changes like deprecations for sure and stuff like this, it's like on it's it's our time to shine on the stage, uh I'm, sorry that it's me on the stage but yeah I have.

E

Time to do that, so you have this one, but this one is not for the year right.

A

It's for the EU, it's foreign.

E

The functions do that, but we are not going to support right. Yeah, yeah.

D

E

In 2008 it is, it is totally removed, I mean trying to be doing, is removed in this release, but not only is still here.

A

So uh not really deprecated.

E

G

E

Suggest um I suggest me that we can, we can mention it uh like. uh Channel music is removed in 2008.

E

The deprecation since 206 right, I, think that is the.

A

E

Okay, more clear.

A

A

Yeah, okay I'll try to work this one properly. Thank.

H

A

By the way, it's good, if we can yeah um I'll mention that we'll sign.

A

But we don't have a replacement for Chuck Museum, like the same the same way how we do for notary.

E

um Shadow Museum we can, we can uh tear the community, uh they can use, I mean you can switch to the OSI, compatible architecture and you're trying to be doing. Also, we have a tour, can help the community user to convert the economy doing a chart to the outside, compatible artifact right, yeah.

A

Okay, I'm not sure if that that to make it into that 45 seconds. So let's see yeah.

E

Try your best yeah.

A

uh Yeah, okay, so release date for April 17th. Maybe that's great.

A

um We had a meeting yesterday or the day before, I'm, not sure uh with the mentorship mentees, and some of them are lacking resources like computer sources to to run. However, on their on their machines, so I reached out to clinics and yeah, we can get only bare metal machines from them, which is not it's not okay. I mean it will be super expensive, like for three months, we'll spend a lot of money on this one, so I proposed to them to check the AWS free tier or the evenly note.

A

uh Maybe code spaces I, don't know any ideas here. How we can guide them to fix that a.

C

Good pot I would recommend using a gitpot which is a different environment right. So it's a development environment which is backed by an.

C

And they have also open source supports so like if you're an open source project, you can apply there and you get getpot.io. Is the website I've used that and and yeah? It's super easy to spin up things there and.

A

And can you can you run, can you practically deploy Harbor on git, gitbot or you're, getting just.

C

No, it's it's your deaf environment right and you can it's a different environment in the cloud where you connect from your IDE, a I'm, not sure if you can deploy stuff in there right. Okay, so um uh yeah.

A

All right we'll check it and yeah because, for example, I'm not sure I think it was Wilfred who's like he's running Windows and with the uh Linux subsystem for Windows and he's trying to do like the install script or make something. And it takes like ages to to run out into the subsystem. So.

C

I think gitpot is the right solution. There I think they're not interested in uh deploying it in the sense that you know for someone else to to consume it, um but, more importantly, I guess they. They want to have a powerful environment where they can spin up the whole. The whole thing right and make it uh and to develop it in it. I think get pot is, is the right approach. There I think it's the easiest one to to use and they have also open source project support.

A

Okay, I'll try to reach them uh and to see what we can do there. Okay, if someone else has a bright idea about about this, one just drop a line, so we can help out these these folks uh to get the things done.

A

um Another thing, however, at kubecon um for the date here uh we have the room for the project meeting that will be in April, 18th 1pm local time uh in G 111, then we're gonna have the maintenance track, I'm going to add it in in this list, and we're gonna have the kiosk um so for the kyoski is going to be me, Vadim and young one.

A

If someone else is going to be at Keep, Calm just drop a line, so we can uh do some kind of shifts and stuff so yeah we can. We can cover all that for the project meeting. uh It's gonna be a room for four hours, so from 1 pm to 5 p.m, um for 20 people.

A

So if someone is visiting I'm gonna, that's my next topic, but if someone is visiting it's better, if we know the number so we can fit in into that room, and we also have going to have some food and beverage because it's like a four hours book time, we don't have to use the whole time, of course, uh but uh still if we're gonna spend more than one hour, there is good to have something. um I spoke with uh wanyon already he's going to prepare something for that project.

A

Meeting we're gonna use the time for like a like a meet-up, so we we're gonna have one or two topics and then all the rest will be open, mic kind of stuff. If someone show up and um like an office hours or just to chat about Harbor uh and for the maintenance track, is going to be Valium and uh wanyon again, um they're gonna prep the talk uh any any help from my side for about that uh Vadim and onion.

C

I need to uh to prepare some time for that. I didn't yeah.

A

I I know it's getting too much for everyone about this stuff and you have other things to do: I'm pretty sure, but but we have to pull this out and and make it make it good for Keep Calm yeah. That's that's our time. So yeah we've been doing all this for these two occasions right. The two clip counts, at least the two clipcons.

A

H

A

Okay, if, if you need any help- uh and you think I can help us with this one- yes.

C

I will contact you for review yeah.

A

All right so without uh yeah what else? Oh, we'll have the uh copies of the book: uh the horror alternative guide uh on kubecon. So if someone wants to have the book uh you must show up at the kiosk or the project meeting depends uh which one you wanna uh visit, so you can grab a copy, their limited copies. Of course, uh we cannot get over the whole kubecon, but uh yeah we'll see if we have some some copies. So it's on first come first served.

E

A

Of stuff, so anyone anything else.

A

And how this, what stuff came up all right? uh We have few new folks on the on the on the call I can see- or at least I'm definitely seeing For the First Time Miguel on on our code. Do you want to introduce yourself.

F

Sure um hi all I'm Neil I'm from Portugal uh I, just started working with the harbor very recently, since uh our team member that developed and worked with the arbor and deployed it uh left the company and I work for the national. uh So let me try to provide this National Health.

F

So it's not a company, it's not it's government um and we basically use a sort of what I understand. uh Arbor has a container deployed for for our environment and I've been trying to upgrade it and I was recommended to actually attend the the the call so like this like learn a bit more and stuff like that, that's it.

A

Welcome, uh if you need any help uh for anything cover related, you can see the the all the attendance for today and that's pretty exhausting extensive list of all the folks that can help you out technically or non-technically around Harbor, okay,.

F

A

You free to reach out yeah.

F

Yeah I've been using the slack Channel home.

A

Okay, so you you more or less, you know the folks already yeah yeah, keep in mind that, uh even though we are all representing who are one or another company. However, it's a Community Driven project, so yeah.

E

It's not always.

A

Easy to respond, timely or Implement something or fix something timely, so yep.

F

Yeah, of course,.

F

A

You thank you welcome. uh Anyone else want to present themselves or.

A

Okay, all right I I, run out of topics for today. I have maybe.

C

A topic: okay, just a quick um introduction or a heads up, I, will post next week a bit more uh in two weeks. I will post a bit more on that um we are currently working on the tool or it's a service which will translate Helm charts to oci images on the Fly. So you can use it in Harbor to replicate help charts from everywhere into your registry.

C

So it's basically a proxy in a translator. So it will translate the helm charts into oci on the Fly and you can use it to replicate images or replicate ocis into your Hardware. Then I will I will show it next week how it's working.

C

um We just uh you know working on that tool and that will be a service that you can use and maybe it can also be later integrated into Hardware. But it's a standalone thing.

A

You say service: is it like pay as you go kind of service.

C

Or uh no, it's a service in the sense that it's a kind of a demon running.

A

C

Type of service, okay,.

A

But yeah right and so you're gonna open source, it and stuff like this. Yes, but uh the plan is not to release it under the harbor organizations. You know right or.

C

It depends I mean we could also push it there. It's uh we just want to make it uh get it out of the door and offer it, and it will be uh I'm not sure if it's going to be a CLI as well, but it will be a definitely a um a demon that you can run.

C

It will probably be a service that you could that we can host as well and uh you like, and then it will translate those charts into oci, and this may the main reason for that is for every company who is using, who is replicating currently charts into into oci? You know like the public ones, you know, so they they want to have it internally, and this will help uh doing it with oci.

A

Yeah but in my opinion that would be super helpful for many folks that are relying on shark museum for now, yeah and yeah once removed.

H

A

We need I think everyone will need a way to migrate all the helm charts to the oci, but if we can, as you said, if we can do it from the Harbor community side to be fantastic, so thank you for that. uh Do you need any help in developing this stuff? Maybe someone else is interested to join you on this Adventure yeah.

C

If someone is interesting, it definitely helping.

G

C

On slack or or yeah, and we can then walk through this.

A

So next time that's in two in.

C

A

Yeah yeah you're gonna do.

C

You're gonna show it and and also uh and I'll, explain how it's working I think it's just to give some heads up that we're working on something.

A

Great okay, so I think until then uh yeah. If someone wants to contribute to that effort, uh Pink Vadim, uh I think I would be interested in this one. uh So I'm looking forward for uh your presentation in two weeks time, all right, um okay and anything else, anyone anyone added anything to to that to that list.

A

Hey Thomas.

G

Yeah um I would like to talk about um Bay weekly meeting for our operator. uh We still didn't schedule it so I, don't know if we can schedule it for next time. Yeah.

A

um Do you want to uh merge it with this one, or do you want to have a separate one? How do you see that visible like.

G

uh I don't know last time we we talked about uh making another meeting dedicated to operator, but uh if everyone here isn't twisting is interested in history can merge it I, don't I.

E

G

A

Okay, maybe we can try yeah, that's on my on that's.

F

A

That's I I think I promise to do that, but I forgot.

F

A

E

A

If we do it in the same time frame now, it's like it takes like 35 minutes, but sometimes it takes an hour so I'm not sure if it's a good idea to to have them both in the same time frame, we can try to have it like separate, like uh same day on on the alternating week, for example, so not to be like too heavy for everyone to join so many meetings at the same week and and then, if it's like, if it takes like 15 20 30 minutes, maybe we can try to merge them and and make that a little bit longer.

A

So it's yeah, let's, let's figure out I'm gonna, send out uh um invites for starting next week. Okay,.

G

Great yeah perfect thank.

A

You same same same time or uh because I'm uh my my concern is that our folks from from China uh are that's like super late for them. So if we introduce a meeting that is every every week, uh every Wednesday nine o'clock their time, it's not not not! Okay, so maybe we can move it a little bit earlier in the day. So we can we can. We can fit their time frame working time frame. What I think.

G

uh uh Yeah, for me, it's okay, but we should see maybe with Marcel I, don't know if he's here today, I, don't think so. I.

A

I, don't think so. Yeah.

G

So maybe we can continue the discussion on the slack to check with him.

A

Yeah, okay, let's okay, I'll create a pool. It's like and.

G

A

Okay, see how that will go all right.

G

A

Yeah yeah I'm I apologize, I I totally forgot about this stuff.

G

A

All right, thank you.

D

I already, uh could you have to create the um requirement collection for to donai in the discussion on like we did for 2007 and today.

A

You mean the the discussion for collecting ideas.

D

Yes, requirements: yeah, okay,.

A

Yeah sure, uh okay.

F

A

My list of notes is getting longer I'm. Sorry for that uh yeah, okay, discussion, two nine and operator: okay.

A

uh Did I miss anything else to do yeah feel free to tell me if I missed anything else, yeah, sorry, it's it's a bit crazy with kubecon and and everything else so yeah. But that's not excuse I'm, trying to find excuse for myself that I forgot to sorry for that, but uh all right.

A

Okay, if, if that's everything, yeah buddy go ahead,.

C

I have maybe a short question on uh totorian if Florian is working on terraform provider for Harbor yeah.

H

C

Maybe he has something to add: okay,.

A

Related to that foreign, do we need the same kind of meeting as Thomas uh bring brought up uh like a like a meeting for for the telephone provider like a dedicated one, so we can discuss stuff there.

H

I'm not sure because there is not a lot of of topics on the terraform provider, so I think it's not necessary.

A

Yeah and uh okay, I'm I'm afraid to ask, but any blockers any do you need any help, because you're I think you're the most active one there as of now, uh so anything that we can rest of the folks can can do to help you out with with with the work.

H

I don't know I, don't think so, because there is not a lot of stuff issue and there is not a lot of big PR, so I can handle it. But if someone else want to help, they can.

A

Yeah just drop a line; I'm I'm, definitely not capable to follow all repositories. uh So it's super easy, obviously to miss something um due to my uh ability not to follow everything or just just like that so yeah, if you, if you, if, if you feel like it, uh you need some help. uh Same goes for for Thomas and and for the operator. If I miss something about it, just or just drop a line. uh Dm works the best, uh otherwise the the channels are flooded. So it's super easy to to miss something else.

A

H

A

Thank you for for the effort, uh fantastic uh that you folks are running this one um yep, okay,.

A

Is that is that a buy with him I, don't know all right? Thank you very much folks and uh have a great rest of the day and talk to you. Bye.