►
Description
Updates from the Registry, Science, and Foundation teams, as well as an open discussion with Kulshan Trust.
A
Hey
everybody
welcome
glad
to
See
Vision
team
and
Community
folks.
Here
we
will
get
started
for
those
of
you
that
are
new,
we'll
get
started
with
some
events,
just
the
things
that
are
happening
and
then
we'll
move
into
the
agenda,
and
then
the
the
heart
of
the
call
today
will
be
a
community
discussion
with
quotient
carbon
trust,
a
registry
partner,
so
yeah
Siri.
If
you
want
to
share
about
events,
I
can
take.
B
It
from
there
for
sure
so
upcoming
community
events
same
as
it
has
been
yeah
this
whole
year
so
next
week,
next
Thursday,
except
or
sorry.
Actually,
it's
not
because
the
August
is
a
five-week
month.
So
next
week
we'll
be
taking
a
week
off
from
community
events
and
then
the
following
week,
September
7th
we're
going
to
have
Virginia
ready,
NewsHour
starting
the
September
event
cycle.
B
Then
the
next
week
September
12th
we've
got
the
product
and
protocol
Community
call.
So
that's
three
weeks
from
today
and
then
yeah,
alternating
with
regenerating
NewsHour
again
in
the
following
week,
and
then
five
weeks
from
today,
we'll
have
the
environmental
stewardship
meeting
and
the
registry
science
and
Foundation
Community
call
rounding
out
the
September
community
events
cycle.
So.
A
So,
first
and
foremost
welcome
to
the
registry
Hilo.
We
have
public
comments
rocking
right
now
for
the
culture
and
carbon
trusts
biochar
credit
class.
So
that
is
available
for
reviewing
the
credit
class
itself
and
you
can
engage
in
two
different
ways.
You
can
submit
a
public
comment.
If
you
have
something
that
you
want
to
have
addressed
by
the
team,
the
developers,
then
you
can
do
so
or
if
you
want
to
just
engage
in
an
open
conversation
about
the
credit
class
itself.
A
A
This
in-person
event
that
Ned
and
Antica
will
be
involved
in
Antigua
will
be
in
person
which
is
really
exciting,
having
to
do
with
the
fiber
shed
work
and
it's
a
methodology
for
it's
a
practice-based
methodology
for
grazing
in
Vineyard
systems.
So
this
is
cool
because
it's
just
like
on
the
ground
in
the
place
with
the
people
doing
the
work
and
that'll
be
cool
to
hear
sharebacks
from
them
about
that
event,
and
what's
great,
is
that
the
methodology?
A
Actually,
it's
the
last
day
that
the
fiber
shed
this
methodology
is
open
for
public
comment
as
well,
so
that's
all
accessible
from
here
there's
some
grant
opportunities
that
I
discovered.
That
would
be
good
to
share,
and
just
this
morning
we
had
a
really
great
environmental
stewardship
call
a
few
folks
that
were
here
were
on
it
and
there
was
a
guest
Mick
from
restore,
so
the
recording
will
be
shared
here
as
well,
so
that's
kind
of
what's
Happening,
most
recently
within
kind
of
region
registry
world.
C
C
C
There
Kenny
has
been
looking
at
policy
around
blockchain
and
Shyla
actually
got
to
join
a
meeting
with
the
Kenyan
Regulators
to
help
serve
as
an
advisor
to
Kenyan
policy
there.
So
that
was
pretty
cool
that
she
got
to
participate
in
that
the
next
one
we
are
getting
ready
for
climate
week.
I'm
sure
you'll
be
hearing
more
about
this
in
coming
weeks.
This
is
the
third
week
of
September.
One
of
the
events
that
regen
Foundation
is
co-hosting
is
with
the
Earth
Law
Center
and
that's
the
event.
E
C
C
So
the
community
staking
down
program
is
moving
along
Howard
who's
going
to
be
sharing
later
in.
This
call
was
part
of
the
first
cohort
of
community
staking
Dows.
So
this
is
the
process
whereby
the
foundation
gets
regen
tokens
out
to
the
community,
and
these
groups
participate
in
in
governance
such
as
the
kind
of
discussion
we're
going
to
be
having
today.
So
the
second
cohort
is
kicking
off
in
October.
C
We
have
some
confirmed
groups
so
far,
which
we
have
listed
here,
we're
still
taking
applications
and
and
recommendations,
and
one
of
the
main
focuses
is
going
to
be
around
methodology
development
in
this
cohort
foreign.
We
have
a
tokenomics
working
group,
Max
cement
Chuck
his
Twitter's
listed
here.
If
you
just
want
to
look
him
up
and
haven't
heard
much
about
him,
he's
a
product
guy
who's
been
working
in
token
engineering
Commons
for
a
few
years
now,
the
working
group
so
far
has
a
proposed
budget
of
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
C
We
have
at
least
40
000
pledged
so
far
and
are
looking
for
another
sixty
thousand
commitments.
We
have
a
an
overview
at
the
link
and
some
of
the
next
steps
right
now
are
just
getting
some.
We
have
a
forum
post,
that's
linked
at
the
bottom
here,
but
if
you'd
like
that,
there's
we
we
need
to
have
some
kind
of
like
standing
call,
maybe
a
Discord
or
working
on
getting
those
things
going.
C
There's
this
donor
advice
fund
that
we're
establishing
so
that
way,
people
want
to
make
tax
deductible
donations
to
the
Dow
or
need
to
be
able
to
fill
out
their
own
tax
paperwork.
We
can
also
accept
funds
from
other
Dows
or
individuals
like
that,
so
we
can
do
both,
but
this
will
just
help
make
the
the
process
a
little
more
official
and
we
also
need
to
determine
signers
for
the
the
wallet.
C
So
Austin
and
I
just
participated
in
a
gathering
last
week.
There
is
not
a
lot
of
information.
That's
been
made
public,
yet
I'm,
just
trying
to
gather
some
links
to
see
what
I
can
share,
but
there's
a
group
called
indigenous
Commons
and
they
hosted
this
kinship
return
event
right
right
here
in
western
Mass
that
brought
together
a
handful
of
indigenous
groups
and
then
a
handful
of
people
essentially
I.
C
Think
the
kind
of
broader
space
is
in
philanthropy,
although
philanthropy
in
a
very
Loosely
defined
way,
certainly
not
and
kind
of
mainstream
institutional
kind
of
philanthropic
approach.
So
that
was
a
a
really
great
Gathering
to
participate
in
and
be
able
to
be
able
to
share
more
soon
on
that,
and
then
I
also
just
wanted
to
mention
that
right
now
the
workflow
for
buying
or
selling
regen
and
moving
in
and
out
of
Fiat
is
is
a
little
bit.
Convoluted
often
involves
a
centralized
exchange
and
then
a
decentralized
Exchange.
C
C
F
A
I
am
currently
really
excited
to
be
supporting
and
incubating
methodologies
focused
on
smallholder
Farmers
with
right
now
it
looks
like
two,
maybe
three
different
methodologies
and
really
like
walking
through
those
steps
and
getting
them
through.
It's
exciting
and
I.
Think
it'll
be
really
great
for
us
to
have
those
types
of
methodologies
in
region
registry.
G
Can
I
can
do
a
quick
share?
This
is
Dave
Fortson
with
law,
labs
and
regen
Network
development.
One
of
the
things
that
I've
been
super
excited
about
is
I've
been
and
actually
Rebecca.
We
should
chat
I've
been
really
eager
to
reconnect
with
my
own
bioregion
I've,
been
kind
of
in
refi
web
3
land
for
the
past
couple
years,
but
I
spent
20
plus
years
and
ecological
and
social
advocacy
and
policy
making
and
related
projects
with
my
previous
company
anyhow.
G
So
what
I
pitched
to
the
local
kind
of
regional
non-profit?
That
kind
of
heads
up
all
the
climate
resilience
work.
The
idea
of
creating
a
set
of
ecological
Finance
tools
for
my
area
code
focused
on
agriculture
and
blue
carbon,
and
so
we're
moving
into
a
scoping
phase
and,
and
really
all
of
this
is
made
possible
in
My
Mind
by
the
by
regen
Network
and
all
of
all.
G
Frankly,
that
I've
learned
and
also
the
the
tooling
that's
been
built
on
regen,
which
I'm
largely
going
to
Center
and
ideally,
if
it,
if
it
moves
off
of
from
scope
into
execution,
the
goal
is
to
create
a
somewhat
of
a
community
template
for
the
creation
of
ecological
Finance
Tools
in
a
in
bioregions
so
like
how
to
do
it
and
pro
and
process
of
like
Consulting
with
Community.
You
know
bringing
stakeholders
together
having
the
both
the
communications.
E
A
H
F
This
is
Gregory.
I
can
go
really
quick
lots
of
different
things,
but
the
one
that
I'm
excited
to
share
about
is
just
scheming,
really
supporting
Austin
at
Region
foundation,
with
convening
a
community
Gathering
at
racebrook
lodge
in
the
Berkshires,
with
some
of
you
who
are
on
the
call
and
a
section
of
the
rest
of
the
community,
and
really
excited
to
get
to
spend
some
quality
time
with
different
partners
who
are
focusing
on
innovating
a
lot
of
the
lines
and
just
get
to
spend
some
time
together.
So
I'm.
I
Hi
everyone,
my
name,
is
Bradley
Smith
and
it's
good
to
be
here
and
see
a
lot
of
new
faces
today.
Some
familiar
names,
something
relevant
to
this
group
that
I'm
working
on
is
putting
together
a
RFP,
a
request
for
proposal
to
Pilot
a
technical
support
team
in
the
ocare
region
regarding
self-determination
and
technical
support
for
indigenous
communities
and
carbon
and
ecosystem
service
credits.
J
D
Yeah
I'll
briefly
explain:
I've
had
an
idea,
I've
been
working
on
for
years,
and
sometimes
you
just
have
to
wait
for
a
good
time,
but
oh
I've
been
working
on
big
problem
with
regenerative
agriculture
or
land
stewardship
is
the
expertise
is
mostly
with
the
farmers
as
far
as
far
as
transitioning,
it's
the
farmer
Consultants
that
are
going
around
and
teaching
other
Farmers.
You
know
their
experiences
and
especially
regenerative
agriculture
is
about
the
principles
of
soil,
Health,
they're
Universal.
D
But
then
it's
about
context,
and
so
the
idea
of
I
want
to
build
I'm,
building
working
on
a
open
source
platform.
That's
easy
for
everybody
to
use,
and
it's
designed
for
Farmers
to
be
able
to
use
and
have
the
right
categories
and
stuff
to
discuss
with
and
then
have
satellite
sites
that
are
around
context.
D
So
either
a
company,
an
organization
or
just
a
bunch
of
land,
stewards
and
farmers
in
a
particular
area,
they're
trying
to
work
together
to
learn
and
support
each
other
and
because
a
lot
of
times,
people
converting
like
this,
they
feel
kind
of
on
alone
in
an
Island
Farmers,
have
always
dealt
with
that.
They
get
pressures
at
the
coffee
shop
like
what
are
you
doing?
D
A
Thanks
Ed
appreciate
your
perseverance
and
that
space
well
sweet
anybody
else
does
anything
to
share.
Please
do
so
and
chat
I
am
really
excited
when
the
region
Foundation
folks
put
up.
This
quote
as
the
last
one
of
their
slides
from
Howard,
about
permissionless
credit
classes
and
and
and
Howard
is
the
voice
of
both
kind
of
a
registry
methodology
and
project
developer
and
as
a
CSL
member
I.
A
So
there
has
been
this
this
long-standing
work
that
kosher
carbon
trust
has
undertaken
to
develop
an
appendix
to
a
Vera
methodology
to
bring
a
biochar
approach
onto
region,
registry
and
they've
gone
through
and
dredge
through
persevered
through.
All
those
steps
with
us
and
it's
been
a
collaboration
that
is
reaching
a
point
of
you
know
of
really
a
lot
of
payoff
for
all
this
work.
So
it's
nice
to
take
a
moment
to
celebrate
all
of
that
effort
and,
and
that
really
like
co-design,
that
we've
been
able
to
do
along
the
way.
A
But
we
are
on
the
registry
side
of
things.
We
are
holding
the
complexity
of
what
it
means
to
be
a
registry
at
this
moment
in
time
and
creating
quality,
unique
credits
that
are
really
impactful
that
are
doing
that
hard
work
of
regenerating
ecosystems
on
the
ground
and
how
that
those
credits
and
credit
classes
that
come
from
region
Registries
sit
next
to
permissionless
credits
that
really
reflect
a
lot
of
the
the
innumerable
ways
that
people
could
Implement
credit
classes
and
regenerative
work
on
the
ground
like
what
Dave
was
referring
to
in
his
bio
region.
Earlier.
A
So
if
you
want
more
context
and
background
check
out
the
Commonwealth
thread
and
then
what
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
really
surface
with
Howard
today
or
like
his
and
the
team's
feelings
about
that
about
that
tension
and
what
they're
seeing
and
experiencing
on
their
end
and
allow
they
have
more
of
that
conversation
to
unfold
as
a
community
in
real
time
instead
of
of
in
in
email,
and
this
is
meant
to
be
an
open
conversation
with
with
not
just
me
and
Howard
with
everybody
else.
So
I'd
love
for
you
to
bring
your
questions.
A
But,
let's
start,
let's
go
back
in
time
a
bit
to
the
experience
Howard
that
you've
had
with
with
developing
out
the
appendix
with
deciding
on
regen,
with
working
through
developing
the
credit
class,
which
is
now
open
for
public
comment.
As
of
today
share
a
bit
about
kind
of
where,
where
you
sit
at
your
Vantage
Point.
K
Our
initial
Focus
was
a
pilot
project
and
that's
what
we
saw
to
grant
for.
We
selected
biochar
and
that's
a
a
whole
nother
conversation
and,
frankly,
very
rich.
One
I
see
it
as
the
Keystone
natural
climate
solution,
really
the
one
that
enables
a
lot
of
the
other
regenerative
work
that
flows
from
from
Land
stewardship,
because
at
least
here
in
the
west
and
other
regions
as
well.
The
the
risk
of
of
wildfire
is
very
clear
and
present
and
as
a
way
to
attract
people's
attention,
even
if
they're
not
themselves
interested
in
regeneration.
K
But
what
I
will
say
is
we
used
the
Grant
and
we
used
that
to
create
a
collaborative
Commons,
that
we
call
a
work
group
in
which
we
invited
kct's
staff
interns,
a
few
folks
from
the
regen
Network
and
most
notably
Ned,
Tika
and
Sam,
who
served
as
advisors
to
us
on
this
initial
work
group
in
which
we
set
out
to
solve
the
problem
of?
How
do
you
give
value?
K
How
do
you
valorize
the
the
carbon
that
is
conserved
by
by
the
biochar
process,
and
we
worked
over
a
period
of
months
and
had
an
iterative
process
in
which
we
went
through
various
stages,
particularly
and
I?
Guess,
starting
with
a
methodology
that
would
give
us
entree
to
the
regen
registry.
The
Vera
biocharm
methodology
was
a
work
in
progress
at
the
time
had
not
yet
been
adopted,
but
was
in
draft
form
and
gave
us
the
framework
we
needed
to
know
what
it
took.
K
What
kind
of
monitoring
reporting
verification
what
kind
of
Standards
had
to
be
set
so
that,
as
we
took
these
credits
to
market
after
our
pilot
project,
we
would
have
something
of
value
that
would
incentivize
and
and
really
I,
guess.
Well,
incentivize,
the
the
behavior
that
in
and
of
itself,
doesn't
have
a
enough
value
to
sell
biochar
to
support
all
the
work
it
takes
to
produce
and
apply
it.
K
We
conducted
three
three
local
projects
here
in
the
Sailor
sea
region,
we're
in
Northwest
Washington,
and
we
had
three
different
projects
to
produce:
bile
Charles
spare
the
details,
the
effort
continued
to
what
we
like
to
call
valorize
them
to
give
them
value
by
creating
the
credit
class
and
listing
them
on
the
regen
registry
and,
as
Rebecca
said,
that
we
finally-
and
it's
been
a
a
long-term
effort.
It's
one
that
I
think
took
longer
than
any
of
us
would
have
liked
the
reward
for
it
is
the
process
just
got
stronger
and
I.
K
I
would
say
yesterday,
when
I
found
out
that,
through
the
combined
efforts
of
Sam,
Tegan
and
Rebecca
that
we
went
official
that
we
went
live
with
the
credit
class
I
was
really
had
an
upwelling
of
Goodwill
for
the
growth
that
we
had
together.
Kct
grew
through
this
experience
and
I
got
to
watch
Regens
systems
solidify
and
take
shape
so
that,
when
our
conversations
during
the
earlier
stages
of
the
process,
our
questions
result
in
as
many
struct
shrug
shoulders.
K
As
answers,
we
came
to
conclude,
we
were
figuring
out
together
as
we
went
along
and
that
wasn't
my
initial
expectation,
but
the
Good
Will
and
the
the
openness
of
the
region
team
members
to
figure
it
out
and
be
forthcoming
and
to
put
in
the
hours
to
solve
problems
that
creating
the
credit
class
entailed
I
feel
really
good
about
the
outcome
and
I
think
next
time.
What
took
over
a
year
this
time
we'll
take
take
take
months
and
so
I
I
would
regard
it.
K
As
you
know,
as
a
story
where
we
got
a
lift
from
from
regen
Network,
we
got
to
prove
our
concept
that
a
pilot
project
is
a
way
to
demonstrate
a
natural
climate
solution.
We
got
it.
Visibility
and
I'll
just
take
one
more
detour
before
before
ending
the
story.
After
we
completed
the
pilot
project,
we
got
a
grant
through
sustainable
farms
and
Fields
with
our
our
County
Conservation
districts
in
our
two
core
counties
and
they
funded
the
acquisition
of
a
couple
of
of
Kilns
that
similar
to
the
ones
we
used
on.
K
Having
done
the
community
biocharp
program
with
the
conservation
districts
to
get
a
local
attention
and
some
some
buy-in,
we
now
have
a
third
stage,
which
is
our
biochar
scale,
up
that
we're
working
to
get
funded
so
I'll
leave
that,
because
that's
looking
forward
these
other
two
are
looking
back
and
the
Milestone
of
having
the
credit
class
going
up.
I'll
just
end
the
story
by
saying
that
we've
sold
the
credits
that
will
result
from
this.
K
This
credit
class
or
from
the
I'm
sorry
from
the
original
pilot
project,
will
were
sold
through
a
couple
of
negotiations,
one
with
a
place-based
non-profit
in
our
bio
region.
That's
very
prominent.
We
have
well
I'll
I'll
I'll,
quit
rambling.
You
know,
I
think
that
was
one
of
the
one
of
the
the
footnotes
is
that
having
gotten
launched
through
the
initial
Grant?
K
Having
had
the
experience
with
the
work
group,
the
collaborative
Commons
with
the
regen
Network
team
and
others,
we
really
have
been
able
to
evolve
a
strategy
that
puts
us
in
a
position
to
scale
a
biochar
that,
if
we're
successful,
will
really
become
a
commercial
ins,
a
commercial
establishment
at
the
landscape
level.
That's
our
that's
our
goal,
it's
and
take
some
time,
but
we
feel
go
on
the
trajectory
and
that
launch
and
the
Milestone.
K
Now
of
having
the
credit
class
and
the
confidence
we
got
by
having
I'm,
not
sure,
I
can
mention
the
buyers,
but
folks
want
a
very
respected
National
Institution,
the
other,
a
very
respected
local
institution
who
regard
biochar
credits
as
deserving
a
premium.
Because
of
the
way
they're
made
the
co-benefits
and
the
fact.
It's
real
carbon
removal
that
you
can
hold
there
just
ain't.
A
lot
of
debate
about
whether
biochar
is
sequestering
carbon.
So
we're
feeling
really
good
about
that
and
optimistic
that
this
next
stage
is
going
to
really
open
open
the
door.
A
It's
hard,
it's
nice,
to
sit
with
that
for
a
minute.
I
think
we're
so
oftentimes
just
moving
on
to
the
next,
the
next
step
in
the
process
and
not
really
treating
it
as
a
as
a
milestone,
but
it
really
does
feel
like
every
step
along.
The
way
has
been
a
proof
of
concept
for
us
as
a
registry
and
for
you
all
as
it
works.
A
So
it
is
it's
nice
to
hear
that
in
full
and
I
think
it
what
it
does,
for
me,
at
least,
is
when
we're
thinking
about
the
scalability,
we're
thinking
about
how
to
really
grow
that
setting
the
foundation
well
now
by
having
I
think
like
the
pieces
all
aligned
for
growth,
it's
it's
wonderful
to
see
just
down
to
like
having
you
know
gone
through
all
of
the
details
of
the
methodology
and
the
credit
class.
You
know
to
know
that
intimately
and
then
to
imagine
that
being
being
scalable
and
approachable
for
others.
A
It's
a
it's
a
meaningful
moment
for
sure
I,
something
that
you
had
said.
I
think
it
was
in
the
email
thread,
I'm,
not
sure,
but
about
how
you
know
you're
this.
The
central
part
of
your
work
is
about
being
able
to
scale
these
carbon
trusts
and
and
about
sequestering
this
carbon
and
in
a
much
more
stable
form
within
this
biochar,
but
you're
also,
it
sounds
like
you're
wrestling
with
the
place
of
biodiversity.
A
Next
to
that
and
how
we
we
want
to
be
able
to
focus
on
carbon
sequestration,
but
really
have
these
these
strong
co-benefits
in
in
the
brand
in
the
marketing
and
in
the
methodology.
Can
you
describe
the
kind
of
like
come
for
carbon
state
for
biodiversity
thoughts
that
you've
been
obviously
wrestling
with.
K
Yeah
well
I
think
thanks
for
that
question,
and
it
goes
back
to
that
work
group
and
to
the
effort
that
Ned,
Tika
and
Sam
put
into
it.
Part
of
our
original
scope
was
to
have
the
Equal.
Credit
include
co-benefits,
and
the
co-benefits
I
would
say,
can
roll
up
to
one
word
of
biodiversity,
but
they
can
also
be
parsed
to
water
attention
to
nutrient
transfer,
to
obviously
a
soil
tilt
and
a
whole
variety
of
benefits
that
go
with
biochar
and
particularly
other
natural
climate
Solutions.
K
So
we
focus
on
biodiversity
as
I'll
call
it
a
a
short
shorthand
for
a
a
shorthand
for
co-benefits,
and
that
was
a
bookmark.
We
left
in
after
our
first
work
group
to
begin
the
science
necessary
or
to
assemble
the
science
that
would
support
serious
market
value
for
these
other.
These
other
attributes-
and
that
is
something
that
I
I,
really
look
forward
to
this.
This
group,
being
the
Forum
in
which
you
figure
out
what
would
be
trustworthy
indicators
for
these
co-benefits.
K
What
what
do
you
measure
and
count?
How
do
you
establish
the
biodiversity
Baseline?
How
do
you
do
all
the
stuff
without
spending
so
much
money
on
Laboratories
and
and
and
science
that
there's
no
value
left
over
to
the
land,
stewards
and
the
project
proponents
and
to
me,
that's
the
next,
the
next
Frontier
and
I
know
lots
of
folks
are
working
on
them.
Cheering
them
on
I,
don't
have
the
science
or
the
technical
background
to
be
much
of
a
contributor,
but
I
believe
that's
where
this
wants
to
lead
and
I.
K
Can
we
come
up
with
the
simple
measures
that
people
in
the
field
can
use
with
their
smartphone
with
their
with
their
their
measuring
stick
or
with
counting
on
their
fingers?
I
mean
I,
just
I,
don't
know
what
that
looks
like.
But
to
me
that's
the
conversation.
We
want
to
have
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
A
F
Yeah
well
so,
over
the
course
of
I
I
guess
it's
probably
been
almost
four
years
now.
The
Lexicon
of
sustainability,
which
is
a
not-for-profit
based
in
California,
has
run
a
set
of
Sprints
with
a
bunch
of
stakeholders
that
started
with
regen
one
which
included
us
and
esmc
an
open
team
and
Nori
and
I
mean
it
was
everybody.
F
It
was
just
a
hodgepodge
of
different
groups
and
then
matured
and
right
now,
there's
a
Sprint
running
that
they're
calling
ecological
benefit
framework,
ebf,
Sprint
and
I
believe
Tikka
and
Ned,
and
maybe
others
are
participating
that
maybe
other
people
in
the
call
as
well,
and
what
Douglas
who's
kind
of
the
I
don't
know.
Greece
imminent
behind
all
of
this
process.
F
His
vision
is
to
completely
replace
all
of
the
Clutter
and
confusion
around
ecosystem
services
and
co-benefits
and
sdgs
and
ESG,
and
all
it's
just
like
a
mess,
word
salad
kind
of
thing,
with
a
single
unified.
What
they're
calling
the
ecological
benefit
framework,
which
includes
soil,
Health,
carbon
and
climate,
biodiversity,
Justice
and
equity
and
sort
of
like
I,
don't
remember
all
of
them,
but
they're
sort
of
like
a
sequence
of
them.
That,
then,
is
modular
and
relates
to
in
a
taxonomic
form
the
specific
measurement
and
monitoring
approaches.
F
The
specific
monetary
valuation
processes,
the
specific
stakeholders,
Etc
and
I-
think
it's
a
nice
I
think
it's
moving
in
the
right
direction
to
really
accelerate
what
you're
doing,
for
instance,
as
a
credit,
originator
and
a
credit
class
developer
to
kind
of
have
that
common
language
and
to
lean
in
also
it's
open
source,
it's
a
big
working
group
and
so
to
the
degree
to
which
we
find
gaps
in
it
and
we're
like.
Oh
this,
there's
a
much
better
way
of
approaching
this.
F
It
also
has
that
Spirit
of
we
can
kind
of
be
contributing
and
framing
things
out.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
the
the
update
there
I
think
Douglas
Opera
I
was
on
the
on
the
phone
with
him
the
other
day
he
offered
to
give
regen
kind
of
you
know
an
overview
from
here
his
perspective
about
the
traction
that
he's
seeing
in
different
groups.
Adopting
this
and
and
so
maybe
we
can
do
that
and
record
it
and
and
throw
it
up
into
the
mix
and
then
and
lean
in
I.
K
A
That's
pretty
impressive:
I
was
in
some
of
the
a
couple
of
us
participated
in
the
interviews,
two
projects
and
just
how
thoroughly
they're
really
getting
a
lot
of
gleaning
a
lot
of
information
and
feedback
from
all
these
individual
projects
that
are
working
through
that,
like
the
Tactical
steps
of
it,
so
I
think
you
definitely
appreciate
it.
Time
flies
so
Howard.
You
have
expressed
thoughts,
concerns
Reflections
on
the
permissionless
credit
class
discussion
going
on
in
Commonwealth,
and
it
should
be
shared
that,
like
this
is
at
a
discussion
moment.
It's
not
at
a
voting
moment.
K
Information
as
reliable
things
would
get
audited
as
a
as
a
routine
to
make
sure
that
that
that
what
a
company
was
was
saying
and
and
doing
was
well
well
anyway.
The
point
was
that
I
got
nervous
with
the
idea
of
permissionless
as
uncontrolled
and
there's
something
out
of
control.
Has
you
know
a
bad
reputational
risk
in
the
world
of
the
a
lot
of
the
credit
buyers
who
are
going
to
be
in
organizations
that
are
used
to
maintaining
standards
and
often
bureaucratic
and
and
foolish
ones,
but
nonetheless
having
standards?
K
This
question
is
how
do
we
get
equal
credits
to
be
separate
in
the
buyer's
mind
from
all
the
controversy
that
swirls
around
the
the
carbon
credits
as
as
as
well-publicized
in
in
recent
months?
And
how
do
we
and
I
think
there
are
lots
of
lots
of
opportunities
here
to
Brand
through
the
the
inspiring
mission
of
the
region
Network
to
to
make
Equal
Credit
something
that
people
understand
is
more
than
carbon?
It's
it's
climate
resilience,
it's
climate,
restoration,
it's
carbon
removal,
and
that
would
be
the
way
I'd
like
to
Pivot.
K
K
So
there's
assurance
that
these
meet
the
the
the
quality
standards
that
these,
in
fact
are
real,
they're,
additional,
they're,
authentic
and
and
all
the
rest,
and
that
that
was
really
what
what
was
originally
a
concern
or
analysis
and
opportunity
for
us
and
all
of
us
to
have
a
concerted
focus
on
what
makes
an
equal
credit
special.
And
how
do
we
have
these
credit
classes
flexible
yet
consistent
in
the
fact
they're
better
than
those
financialized
carbon
credits
and
and
to
me,
that's
the
the
the
this.
K
The
this
opportunity
now
is
to
distinguish
ourselves
from
the
commodity,
the
financialized,
and
to
give
regeneration
a
meaning
that
people
will
that
that
meets
them,
where
they
are
and
have
equal
credits
branded
in
a
way
that
that
speaks
to
that.
So
anyway,
that
that's
that's!
How
I'd
been
thinking
about
it
and
I
hope
that
wasn't
too
too
vague.
A
L
I'm
I'm,
not
so
sure
this
is
I,
mean
I,
understand
the
concern
but
I'm
not
so
sure
this
is
the
actual
you
know.
Permissionless
doesn't
need
to
be
anything
bad
in
the
sense
that
you
will
have
to
go
through
the
validation
phase.
You
will
have
to
have
certain
standards
and
your
methodology
and
credit
classes
to
be
able
to
you
know,
show
quality
and
you
have
rating
agencies.
L
You
have
a
lot
of
different
validators
along
the
line
in
order
to
be
able
to
I,
don't
know
list
these
credits,
and
even
if
there
is
a
bad
or
green,
washing
element,
there
and
buyers
will
be
able
to
see
it
and
so
I'm,
not
so
worried.
I
mean
I,
understand
the
worry
and
I
think
it's
it's
a
good
idea
to
look
at
quality
and
to
look
at
Brand
quality
and
all
these
things.
L
But
you
know
the
market
at
the
end
of
the
day,
will
you
know
regulate
to
a
certain
extent?
What
is
a
high
quality
credit
and
what
isn't?
And
so,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you
want
to
open
up
dates
to
to.
You
know,
grow
this
ecosystem
in
the
first
place
and
and
grow
the
pie
and
see
how
where
it
goes
and
and
not
to
be
too
strict
and
limit
yourself
in
order
to
look
at
only
the
idea
list,
Dreamland
I
mean
in
a
bad
way,
I
mean
I.
L
Don't
really
mean
that
I
actually
am
on
the
side
of
Howard,
but
I
see
where
it's
going
and
I
see
where
all
the
other
registries
and
Eco
credits
are
going
and
I
see.
We
have
to
look
at
how
to
basically
engage
buyers,
engage
the
market
and
and
see
how
we
make
it
easy
for
people
to
do
things
rather
than
to
grow.
You
know
a
Champions,
League
or
elitist
Niche
that
that
is
not
going
to
be
relevant
at
the
end
of
the
day.
E
F
Sorry
about
that
I
I
know
I'll,
be
brief,
because
I
know
we
need
to
hop
but
I
I.
Just
my
Pro,
it's
more
of
a
question.
What
would
the
re,
what
would
the
relationship
be
between
an
Eco
debit
module
and
our
credit
module
in
terms
of
defining
what
the
value
is
and
how
and
who
would
Define
what
the
most
rigorous
debit
module
possible
like
definitions
would
be
right?
Who
actually
needs
to
Define?
That
is
it
corporate
sustainability
officers?
Is
it
Greenpeace?
Is
it
a
local
community?
F
The
case
in
the
rest
of
the
market
is
people
are
looking
to
jostle
for
political
power
over
the
source
of
legitimacy
and
what
we're
disrupting?
Is
that
pattern
and
trying
to
say
actually
there's
a
capability
that
humans
do
have
to
come
together
and
decide
what
is
credible
and
legitimate
important
and
make
that
the
basis
of
agreement?
So
I'm
really
excited
about
collaborating
with
everybody
on
that
line
of
inquiry,
and
it's
pretty
open-ended
I,
don't
know
what
we're
going
to
end
up
finding.
A
M
M
So
yeah
yeah
I
just
wanted
to
ask
her
yeah
since
the
beginning,
you
know
when
we
created
the
first
Native
credits
in
and
and
the
mythology
within
region.
We
were
thinking
about
all
those
questions
and
we
decided
to
go
with
the
carbon
plus,
which
meant
more
than
Carmen,
and
the
idea
was
that
we
would
have,
even
if
the
quantifiable
unit
was
based
on
carbon,
we
would
have
other
metrics
as
well
to
support
the
trends
that
we
were
seeing
from
the
current.
M
So
I
think
I
fully
agree
that
we
we
should
try
to
think
about
quality.
Also
about
you
know
if
we
are
looking
into
holistically
holistically
into
the
credits,
if
that
is
going
to
be
kind
of
the
big
difference,
because
you
can
be
as
accurate
as
you
want
with
only
one
metric
carbon,
you
can
be
like
the
perfect
generally,
the
perfect
methodology
via
sacred,
as
if
you
want,
have
all
the
technology
there.
M
But
then,
if
you
just
are
measuring
one
thing,
you
are
failing
to
see
the
whole
and
and
regenerative
means
that
we
are
seeing
it
from
the
different
angles
of
what's
happening
in
the
whole
environment.
So
I
think
when
we
talk
about
quality,
there's
no
way
to
escape
from
that
in
this
space,
where
we
are
thinking
about
regenerative
management,
so
yeah
you're,
seeing
how
are
those
as
a
good
criteria?
M
We
are
thinking
about
ratings
about
scoring
about
filtering,
but
those
would
be
more
within
the
lane
of
native
and
I
think
the
permissionless
lane
would
be
more
self-regulated
by
the
market,
but
there
should
be
requirements
about
transparency
so
that,
for
instance,
buyers
really
get
the
information
they
need
to
understand
what
they
are
buying,
which
is
I.
Think
one
of
the
greatest
pieces
among
the
the
holistic
perspective.
K
I
I
would
really
I
I
I.
It
occurs
to
me
and
and
I
appreciate
the
parsing
of
what
quality
means.
I
think
that's
spot
on,
but
I
think.
If
it's
permissionless
there
ought
to
be
some
kind
of
a
rating
that
regen
does
and
it
can
be
Community,
Based
and
democratically
done,
but
I
think
a
rating
to
not
rely
on
transparency
alone
to
be
the
basis
for
certifying
these
credits
is
ready
for
Market
on
the
registry.
K
A
And
do
you
want
excited
to
have
you
consolidate
your
thoughts
into
a
commonwealth
post
I?
Think
that's
a
like
an
important
artifact
to
have
anything
for
you,
Mark
and
and
others.
The
I
think
that
a
lot
of
that
will
inform
the
in
the
time
that
we'll
have
at
Facebook
to
Circle
up
as
kind
of
a
community,
but
also
just
as
a
as
a
registry
and
science
team
to
be
able
to
really
absorb
what
we're
hearing
from
others,
instead
of
just
kind
of
that
Echo
chamber
within
region
itself.
A
N
E
A
Well,
in
your
unique
position,
too,
is
that
I
feel,
like
you
have
contacts
on
both
ends
of
you
know,
both
the
like
the
programmatic
and
like
how
something
actually
shows
up
in
the
world,
and
then
the
technical
you
know
underpinnings
of
it
all.
So,
if
you're
in
fights
are
really
welcome
to
like
tie
those
things
together
and
think
about
how
we
actually
filled
something
out
like
that,
both
both
within
the
realm
of
permissionless
credit
classes
and
region
registry
and
then
how
those
two
intersect.
H
Yeah
yeah
I
think
the
existing
registry,
too,
could
benefit
from
a
lot
more
yeah,
I,
guess:
programmatic
transparency,
so
it
it'd
be
cool
to,
like
maybe
interview
you
Howard,
like
what
would
the
system
look
like
that
lets
you
actually
dive
into
the
data
and
the
transparency
to
make
it
feel
like
make.
You
feel
like
that's
good
enough,
because
that
still
is
something
that's
missing.
Obviously,
but.
L
E
A
M
That,
but
let
you
know,
no
worries,
no
just
a
brief
comment
when
we
were
thinking
about
testing
assumptions
and
thinking
about
the
how
Market
could
be
regulating
I.
Think.
One
thing
that
we
we
need
to
think
about
is
that
it's
not
just
one
way
so,
there's
a
feedback
and
there's
a
an
influence,
there's
an
opinion
that
we
can
bring
and
if
we
are
showing
up
as
us
thinking
that
it's
important
that
co-benefits
or
other
metrics
are
so
important
that
we
need
to
think
about
it
in
a
holistic
way.
M
N
It
might
I
mean
like
like
I
said,
but
for
me
it's
mostly
timing.
I'm
really
excited
about
the
idea
of
a
commercialist
credit
clause.
I
think
it's
it's
great
I.
Don't
think
this
is
the
right
time,
because
we're
still
trying
to
get
things
together
within
the
registry
to
get
credits
on
chain
and
all
that
and
I'd
like
to
see
us
continue
to
focus
on
that,
rather
than
get
distracted
by
something
else
for
another
six
months
or
year
or
whatever.
N
N
That's
that's
a
possibility
too,
which
would
be
fantastic,
but
we
could
probably
we'll
probably
also
have
some
groups
that
have
standards
that
are
lower
than
us
than
us
in
region,
registry
and
I.
Think
if
the
Press
gets
a
hold
of
those
before
they
get
a
hold
of
kind
of
the
successes
of
regen
registry.
Now
that's
going
to
run
the
narrative,
then
we
won't
even
have
buyers
coming
in
to
see
what
what
we
have
to
offer.
They'll
just
say:
oh
well,
region
is
a
place
where
you
can
get
just
about
anything.
N
You
want,
and
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
garbage
on
there
that
you'd
have
to
sort
through
so
I,
don't
see
it
as
a
technical
thing.
I
think
you
know
we
have
the
technical
smarts
to
create
interfaces,
so
buyers
can
go
through
and
find
out
what
they
want
and
all
that
that's
not
a
concern.
But
it's
more
just
the
initial
Impressions
that
people
are
going
to
have
of
regen,
Network
and
I.
Think
it's
important
to
have
those
initial
Impressions
really
solid.
Before
we
get
too
loose
in
in
standards.
N
A
Show
me
an
expert,
Ned
and
then
I
think
we're
I
think
we're
all
on
a
pretty
Level
Playing
Field
here,
I
I
really
appreciate
you
all
and
this
conversation
and
all
of
the
work
that
everyone's
doing
thanks
for
your
time
and
aside
from
Commonwealth,
please
willingly
use
Hilo
to
share
any
thoughts,
concerns
questions
resources
at
any
time,
I'm
happy
to
keep
the
conversation
moving
and
hope.
Everybody
has
a
good
rest
of
the
week.