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A
A
B
A
B
Do
my
little
ritual
of
inviting
friends
up
here
to
chat,
awesome
and
yeah
excited
excited
for
this
spaces
and
you
know
excited
to
share
a
little
bit
and
jam
a
little
bit.
A
B
In
the
audience,
hey
rebecca
alexander
from
peer-to-peer
super
stoked,
it
was
fun
listening
in
the
last
last
week
about
the
work.
That's
happening
feel
free
to
raise
your
hand
if
anybody
wants
to
hop
up
while
we're
kind
of
cranking
through
here
yeah
so
good
morning.
Good
morning
good
morning,
I'm
calling
in
from
great
barrington
massachusetts,
which
is
where,
where
my
wife
and
I
used
to
live,
we
were
just
here
visiting
some
friends,
rainy,
rainy
sort
of
spring
berkshire
day.
B
A
B
A
Yeah
same
it's
brown
here,
it's
just
like!
Well,
you
know,
west
coast
is
in
deep,
deep
drought
at
the
moment
and
they're
literally
putting
straws
in
the
bottom
of
the
reservoirs
here,
but
it
was.
It
was
a
pretty
honestly
pretty
depressing
mini
spring
everything
flowered
super
early.
Even
you
know
the
fruit,
trees
and
everything,
and
it
was
just
the
flowers
and
it
was
like.
We
are
straight
into
pretty
deep
summer
in
early
june,
which
is
unfortunately
mark's.
First,
some
pretty
wild
wildfire
possibilities.
A
This
you
know
hoping
we'll
head
off,
but
such
as
the
nature
of
the
west.
Right
now
for
sure
it's
it's
pretty
wild
over
here.
B
Yeah
yeah
yeah
all
right.
Well,
let's
see
the
things
that
I
want
to
talk
about.
I
want
to.
I
want
to
create
a
little
bit
of
space
to
digest
the
ust
collapse
a
little
bit
share
a
little
bit
about
that.
Maybe
get
some
folks
up
to
to
talk
and
why?
B
B
We
have
a
governance,
gated
allow
list
for
currencies
that
are
used
to
yeah,
buy
eco
credits
right,
and
so
we
have
sort
of
community
cover
what
currencies
are
accepted
for
people
to
place
their
eco
credits
for
sale
in
the
marketplace,
which
is
launching
here
very
shortly.
Team
is
cranking
away
on
that,
and
so.
B
Want
to
have
a
little
bit
of
conversation
about
that.
So
that's
theme,
number
one
theme
number
two
is
just
giving
everybody
an
update
on
the
marketplace
and
nct
launch
stuff.
I
think
we
have
shared
some
in
these
twitter
spaces,
we're
we're
overdue
for
sharing
back
to
the
osmosis
community.
So
I
will
be
putting
together
a
pretty
thorough
explanation
of
what's
up,
but
I
want
to
sort
of
like
go
over
that
take
questions
if
people
them
just
kind
of
like
move
through
that
whole
piece,
and
so
those
are
the
two
big.
B
I
guess
region,
network
governance
and
road
map
pieces
of
news
and
conversations
that
I
wanted
to
cover
today
and
then
you
know,
as
usual,
we
can
have
a
you
know,
sort
of
dynamic
and
emergent
conversation
to
see
to
see
what
what's
moving
and
shaking.
B
So
I'm
going
to
just
make
sure
to
tweet
that
we're
live
here
and
then
I'll,
dig
in
and,
as
usual
folks
feel
free
to
raise
your
hand
if
you
want
to
hop
up
and
chat
about
things
and
otherwise
I'll
kind
of
do
a
little
bit
of
a
monologue
on
theme,
one
and
theme
two
and
will.
A
B
You
might
have
some
thinking,
antonio,
you
may
have
some
thinking
kevin.
You
may
have
some
thinking
specifically
on
the
allow
list
stuff.
So
if
you
do
and
as
you're
listening
to
me
talk
about
things,
if
you
want
to
chime
in
ask
a
question
or
opine,
please
do
so
sir.
The
the
headline
here
is
we're
going
to
be
launching
the
marketplace
region
ledger
4.0
is,
is
coming
shortly.
We've
been
postponing
it
a
little
bit
due
to
some
bridge
work
which
I'll
be
talking
about
in
depth.
B
The
reasons
why,
but
it's
still
it's
coming
down
the
pipe.
So
there's
testing
taking
place
and
regen
ledger
4.0
is
pretty
much
ready
to
go
and
we're
gonna
be
as
a
community
starting
to
go
through
governance
process
around
region.
B
So
there's
kind
of
a
healthy
debate,
I'm
going
to
be
posting
a
bunch
of
this
stuff
on
the
forum.
In
fact,
my
aim
today
is
to
get
a
government
or
sort
of
a
commonwealth
sort
of
outlaw
or
suggested
criteria
for
choosing
currencies
for
the
allow
list,
but
the
community,
ultimately
community
governance
decision
and
in
fact,
r
d
inc
is
going
to
just
let
its
vote
go
with.
B
What
it's
valid
are
thinking,
so
we're
sort
of
gay
decision
making
on
this
out
into
the
community
for
our
seven
and
a
half
percent
of
network
stake,
and
I
think
so.
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
healthy
debate.
So
obviously
I
think
ust
is
not
going
to
be
on
the
on
the
allow
list.
That's
I
think,
kind
of
clear
we
had
been
talking
to
the
to
the
terra
community
team
about
potentially
socializing
that
as
an
option,
because
before
the
crash,
it
was
of
course
the
most
liquid
stable
coin.
B
I
guess
now
it's
appropriate
to
say
in
quotes
stable
coin
in
in
the
cosmos
ecosystem.
I
think
the
inter
the
stable
coin-
that's
that's
being
referred
to
now,
is
inter
which
is
formerly
known
as
run,
which
is
the
agoric
teams.
Stable
coin
is
not
yet
online.
We
have
euro
as
choices.
We've
been
having
a
conversation
with
the
cello
community,
although
they're
not
yet
ibc
compatible.
B
So
this
is
sort
of
the
field
of
play
we
could
also
as
a
community
if
we
feel
a
conviction
that
region
is
in
fact
a
currency
which,
I
would
say
is
likely,
but
I
we
want
to
not
presume
that.
That's
how
people
want
to
treat
it
regen
could
be
added
to
the
allow
list.
Atoms
might
be
added
to
the
allow
list.
So
there's
sort
of
you
know
this
is
the
field
of
play.
So,
with
that
kind
of
overview,
I'd
love
to
yeah,
will
you
you
raise
your
hand?
D
Yeah
sure
I
I
think
before
we
get
into
discussion
about
specific
tokens
and
currencies,
I
would-
and
maybe
this
is
something
we
do
on
the
commonwealth
forum
and
in
some
other
places
do
some
kind
of
user
story.
Mapping.
As
far
as
who
are
the
participants
we
know
and
anticipate,
buying
and
selling
eco
credits
are
project
developers
going
to
be
on
the
other
side
receiving
these
tokens
that
are
used
in
payment.
In
some
cases,
do
they
go
straight
to
the
farmers,
what
farmers
and
what
places
in
the
world?
D
So
I
guess
some
kind
of
user
user
story
mapping
I
think,
would
be
really
helpful
just
to
understand
I,
I
certainly
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
kind
of
a
monolithic
kind
of
user
type
that
it's
always
the
same
sort
of
counterparty
receiving
tokens
and
I'm
sure
certain
groups
will
have
certain
preferences
and
want
certain
certain
off-ramps.
Other
people
might
be
very
happy
to
be
long-term
holders
of
of
crypto
that
they're
getting
in
exchange
for
these
eco
credits.
So
I
think
that's
kind
of
the
what
comes
to
mind
first.
For
me,.
B
Cool
yeah.
Well,
I
can
walk
through
a
couple.
I
mean,
I
think,
there's
sort
of
there's
a
major
fork
in
the
road
and
I
think
envisioning
who
the
users
are
is
there
is
the
right
way
to
think
about
that.
So
the
major
fork
in
the
road
is
as
a
community.
Do
we
have
a
thesis
that
we
want
a
small
number
of
currencies
allowed
because
that's
better
for
users
or
do
we
want
a
wide
variety
of
currencies
allowed
because
that's
better
for
the
users?
B
Your
question,
I
think
is:
is
the
right
one?
Who
are
the
users
in
this
case?
I
think,
broadly
speaking,
you
know
we're
creating
this
disintermediated
marketplace
for
land
stewards
and
project
developers
to
be
listing
to
be
self-governing
credit
standards
right
and
that's
the
registry
functionality
and
then
bring
those
directly
to
the
marketplace
and
that's
the
eco-credit
minting
functionality.
B
I
think
you
know.
Obviously,
I
think
these
folks
are
going
to
want
stable
currencies
and
they're
going
to
want
liquid
and
stable
currencies
that
are
easy
to
move
into
their
everyday
operations
right
and
so
there's
a
whole
question
about
fiat
on
and
off
ramp
and
our
partners
at
earth
bank
are
working
on
a
fantastic
sort
of
fiat
banking
application.
That's
going
to
plug
right
in,
and
you
know
maybe
there's
conversations
happening
with
krypto.com
and
other
partners,
but
for
sort
of
the
region
ledger
space.
B
B
So
I
I
think,
then
the
other
users,
the
other
main
user
group,
is
probably
people
who
are
purchasing
eco
credits,
like
carbon
credits
and
using
them,
and
maybe
holding
them
for
inventory
management
or
to
go
on
carbon
and
other
ecological
assets
as
an
investment
class
investment
asset
or
move
them
into
amms
or
move
them
into
collateral,
and
so
there's
sort
of
like
the
direct
folks
who
are
working,
creating
these
ecological
credits
through
their
actions
in
the
world.
B
Their
stewardship
their
their
monitoring
and
reporting
verification
activities
and
then
there's
folks
who
are
buying
them
and
potentially
holding
them
as
an
asset
or
retiring
them,
and
that's
sort
of
the
two
sides
of
the
marketplace.
As
as
I
see
it-
and
you
know,
broadly
speaking,
I
think
I
I
mean
my
my
instinct
here
is-
is
to
sort
of
go
with
the
more
pluralistic
approach
where
there's
multiple
different
currencies,
because
I
think
it's
a
little.
B
First
of
all,
it's
a
little
too
early
to
tell
what's
going
to
stick
and
I
just
think
it
gives
people
more
options,
but
I'm
really
keen
to
hear
what
people
are
going
to
what
other
people
think.
Essentially,
what
people
think
is
is
most
important,
so
you
know
I
I'm
totally.
You
know
down
to
dig
into
this
and
even
have
a
have
a
debate
if
people
are
strongly
opinionated,
but
mostly
I
just
wanted
to
let
everybody.
Everybody
know
that
this
is
a.
B
This
is
a
conversation
topic
that's
going
to
be
emerging
on
the
on
the
government.
It's
going
to
be
maturing
into
a
vote,
and
it's
it's.
You
know
it's
not
a
network
upgrade,
but
it's
a
really
important
feature
in
which
our
community
gets
to
choose
currencies
that
we
feel
are
the
right
currencies
to
be
using
as
a
medium
of
exchange
for
eco
credits
and
before
hey
kevin
awesome
love
to
have
you
up
here.
So
let
me
get
you
up.
B
Again,
I'm
going
to
be
putting
this
up
in
the
commonwealth,
but
from
my
perspective,
as
sort
of
a
member
of
the
r
d
inc
team,
which
is
the
genesis
org
and
the
core
dev
team,
there's
a
list
of
criteria
that
I
believe
people
should
be
using
in
order
to
make
this
decision
and
those
criteria
are
that
the
the
token
in
question
is
a
currency
number,
one
that
the
token
in
question
is
able
to
fuel
network
growth
and
utility
that
the
token
in
question
is
stable
and
safe.
B
That
the
token
in
question
has
enough
liquidity
to
fulfill
point
b
and
c
of
that
list
so
and
then
there's
technical
considerations.
I
personally
lean
towards
ibc
compatible
options.
Obviously,
that's
so
much
easier
and
we
don't
have
to
deal
with
complicated
bridges,
and
in
this
case
I
don't
think
we
can
really
be
voting
on
anything
that
isn't
ibc
compatible
right
now
so
yeah
and
then
and
then
there's
sort
of
like
this
fork
in
the
road
stable
versus
not
stable.
B
Do
we
want
to
consider
regen
as
a
currency
as
a
community
and
have
that
these
are
sort
of
some
of
the
big
questions
for
for
debate?
Kevin
welcome
up
and
yeah
good
morning
top.
C
Of
the
morning
to
you
good
to
hear
your
voice
greg
and
will
and
good
to
see
folks
here
on
the
regenerating
newshour
I
I
guess
I
want
to
listen
and
hear
what
the
community
discussion
will
be
about
this,
but
it
really
helped
to
to
parse
out
the
criteria
you
just
mentioned,
and
it
seems
to
me,
like
you
know,
we
acknowledge
the
the
elephant
in
the
room,
which
is
that
this
void
that's
been
created
by
the
the
collapse
of
of
tara
of
ust.
C
C
You
know
something
what
what
was
built
in
that
sort
of
loop
was
that
there
was
an
offer
on
an
off-ramp
through
the
bridge
and
you
could
go
off
to
dexes
with
it
and
it
it
really
did
change
the
whole
user
experience
at
least
on
osmosis,
but
I
think
you
know
various
parts
of
cosmos
and
I
think
part
of
it
is
like
we
know
the
functionality
that
we
want
and
in
the
in
the
I
guess
near
term,
like
you're,
saying
the
you
know,
ibc
enabled
options.
C
B
C
B
Liquid
there's
lots
of
on
and
off,
but
it
comes
with.
You
know,
sort
of
like
price
fluctuations
that
I
think
are
not
likely
to
be
the
best,
but
if
maybe
making
it
an
option,
is
a
good
move
for
people
who
who
want
that
as
an
option.
But
I
think
that
the
options
realistically
on
the
stablecoin
side
are
probably
axelr,
usdc
and
euro.
C
And
I
I
mean-
and
this
is
I
just
thought
the
other
day
and
I'm
going
to
ask
you
because
you're
an
og
and
cosmos,
do
you
think-
and
this
is
this
is
maybe
just
pie
in
the
sky.
I
think
I'm
just
throwing
it
out
there
like.
Would
it
be
possible
to
get
a
an
ibc
enabled
version
of
something
like
usdc.
B
Well,
yeah
I
mean,
I
think,
usd
axle
or
usdc
is
now
sort
of
the
ibc
version
of
usdc.
I
mean
if
you're
asking
for,
like
native
sort
of
like
fiat,
backed
sort
of
semi
semi-permissioned
stable
coin
I
mean
somebody
could-
and
I
know
of
a
couple
projects
that
are
kind
of
working
in
that
direction.
B
Euro
is
an
example
in
a
way
of
that,
although
it's
you
know,
sort
of
regulated
and
issued
in
the
european
union
instead
of
in
in
the
us,
but
it
has
a
lot
of
similarities
to
the
usdc
approach,
so
that
is
sort
of
the
that
the
complete
most
native
version
now
axelr
and-
and
I
think
the
osmosis
community
there's
liquidity
mining,
going
on
to
build
liquidity
of
usdc
now
and
there's
also
liquidity
mining
of
dye
taking
place
on
so
so
those
are
both
potential
options.
C
Yeah,
I
guess
yeah,
I
guess
in
that
sense,
if
you
know
it
puts
a
lot
of,
it
puts
a
lot
of
pressure
on
osmosis
to
to
pool
that
liquidity,
but
yeah.
If
that
pool.
C
If
that
can
be
built
up
deep
enough
to
to
lower
the
slippage
and
make
it
you
know
more
usable,
I'm
I
you
know
that
to
me
just
seems
like
a
at
least
for
the
when
you're
talking
about
the
buyers
that
are
I'm
assuming
that
some
of
these
are
corporate
or
who
knows
what
kind
of
entities,
but
not
just
the
stewards,
but
the
other
traders
and
people
who
have
an
incentive
to
to
purchase
and
hold
these
carbon
credits
like
yeah
to
me
that
would
make
it
would
make
sense,
and
I
guess
the
euro
would
as
well
like
so
anyway,.
B
Totally
bit
nate,
what's
up.
B
A
Well,
riding
through
the
storm
riding
through
the
storm,
we're
at
an
interesting
kind
of
threshold.
Here
I
think,
where
we're
going
to
kind
of
see,
algorithmic
stable
coins
probably
be
more
hunted
after
by
regulated
authorities,
and
that
could
only
be
you
know,
foreshadowed
you
know
we're
taking
a
currency
that
is
a
centralized
currency
that
has
regulatory
bodies
around
it.
We're
essentially
borrowing
their
currency.
So
I
think
it's
kind
of
like
a
philosophical
debate.
A
Do
you
want
these
to
be
underpinned
in
something,
that's
decentralized,
which
would
kind
of
be
adam
and
if
so,
then,
maybe
at
the
end
or
even
reckon
taken?
But
if
you
want
something,
that's
stable,
that's
pinned
to
currency.
I
think
usdc
is
probably
the
winner
here.
The
issue
that
we're
going
to
start
seeing
is,
if
other
bridges
start
coming
over
to
cosmos
with
different
rep
standards,
then
you
get
liquidity
fragmentation.
A
We
ran
into
that
a
lot
with
ust
when
we
were
working
on
it,
so
it's
kind
of
moody,
maybe
a
native
integration
of
usdc
on
cosmos,
could
be
the
way
to
go
that
way.
As
these
credits,
you
know
kind
of
fan
out
into
communities,
they
have
the
ability
to
swap
that
usdc
for
an
actual
dollar
is
kind
of
where
my
head's
at
right.
Now.
A
B
Think
there's
going
to
probably
be
all
sorts
of
stable,
swap
infrastructure
and
other
things,
and
you
know,
and
also
I
think,
that
the
just
like
straight
fiat
purchasing
is
really
important,
but
you
know
that's
that's
going
to
be
down
the
road
a
little
bit
but
yeah.
I
appreciate
that
perspective
and
I
think
yeah
it's
been
turbulent
the
last
last
little
bit
but
we'll
see
I
mean
I
think
yeah.
C
B
C
Yeah,
so
I
mean
I
guess
what
I
was
thinking
similar
to
what
what
bit
nate
said
was
like
I
mean
so,
just
in
theory
like
when,
when
we
were
using
ust
as
a
primary,
you
know
whatever
dollar
a
stable
token,
you
like
to
get
it
to
to
a
dex
you'd,
have
to
bridge
it
and
like
it
turn
it
into
whatever
aetherium
right
like
for
whatever
reason,
that's
just
how
it
works,
like
you,
don't
send
native,
I
guess
ibc
tokens
to
to
dexes.
C
So
I
think,
like
your
your
mention
of
the
fiat
ramp
is
like,
is
if
there's
a
way
there
was
talk
about
this.
Do
you.
C
Yeah
yeah
that
that's
what
I
was
talking
about,
or
I'm
talking
about
the
off-ramp.
You
know
process
like
if
you
wanted
to
get
ust
back
into
your
bank
account
you
had
to
run
it
at
least
the
way
that
I
knew
of
it
was
to
go
through
like
the
wormhole
shuttle,
and
it
would
like
accept
the
the
native
version
and
pump
out
an
erc20
version.
A
C
100
true,
it
was
just
that
like
it
could
be
done.
What
was
like
the
the
thing
it
was
complicated
and
I
think
that,
like
I
think,
sonny
mentioned
this
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
So
I
don't
even
know
if
it's
still
legit
but
because
it
was
from
a
was
a
terror
dap.
I
think,
but
it
was
like
this
caddo
money,
which
was
like
first
that
they
were
going
to
allow
you
to
go
from
fiat
to
ust,
but
then
fiat
to
any
cosmos
asset
with
like
more
manageable
fees.
C
C
When
I
think
about
regen,
I
also
think
about
exo
the
impact
and
regenerative
regenerative
lead
projects.
I
believe
that
they
are
really
important
stories
narratives
about
cosmos
and
what
makes
it
like
very
special
and
different
from
people's.
You
know
stereotypical
first
reaction
to
the
the
word
crypto,
and
I
just
think
that
there's
something
there's
a
valid.
C
There's
an
enormous
value
to
the
work
that
you're
doing
and,
and
that
the
you
know,
various
stewards
and
people
involved
in
the
project
are
doing,
but
that's
also
a
kind
of
currency.
It
doesn't
solve
this
problem,
but
I'm
saying
like
I
think,
it's
a
very
important
part
of
like
how
we
you
know,
try
to
get
the
word
out
and
effect
or
you
know,
build
up
a
narrative,
that's
accurate.
You
know
that
that
actually
describes
the
the
positive
and
really
like
sort
of
revolutionary
type
of
building
that's
happening
in
this
space.
C
B
But
I
I
tend
to
think
that
another
sort
of,
in
addition
to
the
criteria
that
I
was
laying
out
for
this
for
the
community
to
make
this
decision
about
a
sort
of
the
currency
allow
list
right
which
which
I
was
sort
of
saying
that
the
the
the
token
in
question
is
a
currency,
that
the
adoption
of
the
currency
will
help
fuel
network
growth
and
utility
and
that
the
currency
is
stable
and
safe.
B
I
happen
to
think
that
carbon
and
other
eco-credits
is
a
really
fantastic
form
of
collateral
and
in
fact,
the
nature.
Carbon
ton
did
quite
well
in
this
recent
big
market
downturn,
comparatively
speaking
to
other
assets
and
sello.
You
know
our
friends
at
cela,
which
is
again
not
yet
an
ibc
compatible
network,
but
they
have
a
strong
as
a
community
of
a
really
strong
commitment
to
this
exploration
of
what
it
means
to
be
backing
currency
with
ecological,
health
or
or
social
social
health.
B
So
there's
a
really
cool
sort
of
synergistic
flywheel,
potentially
with
that
and
new
atlantis,
I
see
you
out
there
I'll
I'll,
get
you
up
here.
So
so
that's
that's
something
that's
on
my
mind.
B
Right
is
how
are
we
because
it
creates
a
virtuous
cycle
between
the
people
who
are
on
the
ground,
land,
stewards,
marine
stewards,
people
who
are
caring
for
the
earth
and
creating
these
units,
units
of
value
that
really
represent
verified
regeneration
and
conservation,
actually
being
able
to
have
a
virtuous
cycle
between
the
stable
coin
or
currency
that's
being
used
and
the
the
unit
itself?
And
so
from
that
perspective,
regen
having
region
on
the
allow
list,
is
a
distinct
option
for
the
community
to
be
considering
as
well.
New
atlantis
now
welcome
up
hi.
E
Everybody
sorry
I'm
sick,
so
I
sound
kind
of
raspy,
but
I
wanted
to
reiterate
what
you
said
greg.
E
I
think
the
the
idea
of
using
sort
of
nature-backed
assets
is
a
really
interesting
one,
and
I
and
I'm
sorry
if
I
missed
you
guys
covered
this
already,
but
there
are
cpi
based
stable
coins,
and
it
could
be
an
interesting
idea
to
look
at
how
cpi-based
stable
coins
could
be
applied
to
nature-backed
assets
so
that
you
could
have
stability
over
time,
but
back
it
by
real-world
assets,
and
I
know
frax
has
done
a
good
job
with
kind
of
a
more
traditional
cpi
version
of
it.
E
It's
called
fpi
and
then
one
other
point
I
just
wanted
to
quickly
make
is
that
if,
if
we're
considering
using
a
traditional
fiat
currency
as
the
stable
coin
across
the
network,
I
think
for
good
or
for
ill
like
we
have
to
sort
of
take
into
account
sort
of
global
macro
environments
and
given
the
relative
strength
of
the
dollar
and
the
likely
appreciation
of
the
dollar
you
know
versus
the
euro
or
the
yuan
or
whatever
other
currency.
E
You
want
to
pick
that
might
argue
more
strongly
for
a
dollar
at
least
having
the
dollar,
be
a
significant
component
of
any
sort
of
currency
or
basket
of
currencies
that
comprising
the
the
cut
ibc
stable
coin,
like.
D
E
B
E
Forgive
my
forgiveness,
but
what
does
cpi?
Oh
sorry,
consumer,
consumer
price
index?
It's
like
the
basket.
I
mean
it's
theoretically,
the
basket
of
goods
that
looks
at
what
how
how
inflation
is
actually
growing.
There's
a
lot
of
debate
as
to
whether
the
things
that
are
in
the
basket,
like
you
know,
food
and
things
like
that
are-
are
accurately
measured.
But
the
idea
was
instead
of
looking
at
just
simply
a
number
of
the
currents
at
the
price
of
the
currency.
E
You
actually
look
at
the
things
that
consumers
need
to
buy
and
spend
in
their
life
and
figure
out
if
those
items
themselves
are
appreciating
in
value
relative
to
where
they
were
so
they're.
Like
I'd
encourage
you
to
check
out,
I
think
it's
called
fpi
from
frax,
which
is
a
they're,
an
algo,
stable
coin,
but
that
you
know
they.
So
they
may
not
be
the
right
thing.
E
If
people
don't
want
to
talk
about
or
don't
look
at,
algorithmic
stable
coins,
but
they
have
the
the
fpi
stable,
which
is
kind
of
an
interesting
take
on
things,
because
I
think,
as
we
see
a
lot
of
tumultuous
markets,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
and
there's
a
lot
of
moves
in
currency.
Right
now
I
mean
like
the
yen
is
moving
for
the
first
time
in
years
the
euro
is
like
way
down
relative
to
the
dollar.
E
I
mean
we've
been
trying
to
move
the
ruble,
but
you
know
that's
been
sort
of
quasi
successful
and
who
knows
what's
going
to
go
on
the
yuan?
So
if
you're,
if
you're,
just
looking
at
currencies
versus
to
your
earlier
point,
greg
of
like
let's
recognize
that
we're
on
a
physical
planet,
we
need
to
sort
of
make
our
planet
healthy
by
acknowledging
the
physical
realities
of
it.
Maybe
we
take
that
cpi
concept
but
apply
it
to
ecological
measures
instead,.
E
B
E
Yeah,
no,
I
totally.
I
agree,
it's
not
a
today
thing
it
just
maybe
it's
like
r,
and
I
was
only
saying
that,
as
maybe
a
place
to
get
to
to
your
point
about
using
nct
and
other
sort
of
you
know
nature-backed
assets
as
a
as
a
component,
but.
D
D
If,
if
someone's
just
buying
some
eco
credits
and
or
or
in
this
case,
you
know
selling
some
eco
credits
and
they
get
that
stable
coin,
and
then
they
can
go
convert
it
to
whatever
else
they
want
within
you
know
a
few
minutes
or
hours
or
days,
then,
if
it's
tied
to
the
us
dollar
versus
the
consumer
price
index
doesn't
really
make
a
difference,
but
if
this
is
a
six
month
or
one
year
or
two
year
or
four
year,
term
cert,
certainly
if
you're
getting
into
you,
know
pre
pre,
pre-purge
of
future
logical
outcomes
or
something
like
that.
D
Where
you
have
long
terms,
then
those
questions
is
an
inflationary
currency
or
not
really
matter
I
I
was.
I
was
kind
of
sad
to
see
that
when
stable
coins
became
a
thing,
the
us
dollar
became
the
common
denomination.
Because
of
some
of
those
points,
people
are
making
that
that
the
the
fed
wants
the
us
dollar
to
be
inflating
so
that
people
use
it.
D
If
it
was
a
great
store
of
value,
then
people
wouldn't
be
spending
their
dollars,
and
so
inflation
is
kind
of
baked
into
the
u.s
dollar
and
it's
been
picking
up
more
recently
and
so,
if
you're,
if
you're,
making
a
a
five-year
contract,
maybe
you
don't
want
that
speed
on
dollars?
Maybe
you
do
want
it
to
be
an
inflation
adjusted
currency,
yeah.
B
Yeah
and
so
just
to
speak
to
that
you
know
there
is
going
to
be-
I
guess
in
region,
region,
ledger,
5.0
or
beyond,
and
there's
sort
of
active
conversation
happening
and
the
core
dev
team
and
I
think,
amongst
the
broader
community.
Many
of
you
I've
had
this
conversation
with
around
forward
contracts
and
sort
of
an
escrow
based
like
hey
we're,
putting
money
into
a
smart
contract.
That
is,
you
know,
going
to
be
rewarding
a
land
steward
or
an
ocean
steward,
for
particular
caution
or
regeneration
outcomes,
and
in
exchange
for
that
contract.
B
B
I
think
in
those
situations
we
probably
would
you
know
I
hadn't
even
really
thought
about
this,
but
you
probably
do
want
an
inflation
adjusted
approach
to
that
and
at
the
same
time
I
think
bringing
it
back
to
the
proximate
like
near-term
at
this
moment
over
the
next
few
weeks
as
a
community,
we're
going
to
need
to
make
a
choice
about
the
the
first,
the
first
currencies
to
put
on
the
allow
list
right
and-
and
I
think
the
first
ibc
options.
There's
there's
a
few
different
things
to
talk
about
and
the
primary
debate
here.
B
I
think
I
mean
it
probably
used
to
be.
The
primary
debate
was:
do
you
want
a
decentralized
algorithmic
currency
or
something
that's
backed
by
sort
of
the
incumbent
monetary
system?
So
it
would
have
been
sort
of
euro
versus
ust?
Essentially,
but
you
know,
we
live
in
a
different
world
after
the
the
the
collapse
of
confidence
in
terra,
and
you
know,
I
think
there
isn't
really
an
ibc
algorithmic
option
at
the
moment,
even
if
the
community
wanted
it.
B
So
I
think
it's
sort
of
between
a
couple
of
different
fiat,
backed
stable
coins,
euro
and
usdc.
Being
the
the
most
most
prominent
die,
there's
an
ibc
version
of
dyno,
so
we
could
be
using
axillar
dye,
which
is
over
collateralized
sort
of
crypto
approach
to
this,
or
we
could
be
using
non-stable
currencies
like
atom
or
regen.
So
I
think
that's
sort
of
the
field
of
play.
B
E
If
I
go,
I
don't
know
if
you
know
this
or
not,
but
adam
I
mean
dye
is
working
on
green
green
black
assets
and
I
think
they
did
some
green
bond
back
die
deal
with
deutsche
bank.
I
know
roone
is
really
trying
to
push
die
towards
being
more
climate
friendly.
I'm
not
super
what
their
sort
of
current
state
of
progress
is,
but
if
dies
on
the
list
that
that
might
be
a
you
know,
check
mark
in
their
favor.
B
Yeah,
you
know-
and
this
is
another
interesting
sort
of
point-
I'm
definitely
as
I
was
mentioning
before,
like
the
virtuous
cycle
between
regen
and
our
community,
and
whatever
we
choose,
I
think,
is
an
important
criteria,
and
so
whoever
we're
choosing
and
whatever
the
conversations
are
with
stablecoin
providers.
I
think
we
should
be
biasing
towards
you
know,
stablecoin
options
that
are
going
to
invest
in
the
community
that
and
that
are
willing
to
sort
of
be
pushing
towards
this
future
of
regeneration
and
sustainable
bond-backed
assets
and
currency.
B
So
I
think
that's
a
great
point
and
it'd
be
interesting
to
reach
out
to
to
the
maker
community
and
see,
see
how
there
might
be
a
connection
and
that
conversation
is
actively
happening
with
cello,
but
but
there
isn't
a
cello
option
yet
on
osmosis
and-
and
I
think
die
is
also
very
limited
liquidity,
although,
although
maybe
that's
starting
to
change
with
some
of
the
yield
farming,
that's
taking
place.
D
So
I
was
just
going
to
ask
a
technical
question
about
order
book
design
and,
if
there's
any
kind
of
technical
criteria
here
of,
could
we
even
have?
Could
we
even
launch
with
more
than
one
stable
coin
in
an
in
an
order
book?
Does
it
or
or
whatever
currency,
in
an
order
book
design
because
of
the
kind
of
price
oracle
need
there
or
I
don't
know
gregory
if
you
could
speak
some
about
how
how
these
credits
are
even
going
to
be
purchased
and
retired.
B
I
mean
so
at
the
beginning.
We
don't
we
are
launched.
The
marketplace
is
more
of
a
storefront,
so
it'd
be
more
of
like
an
open
sea
experience
and
you
know,
or
or
like
the
current
stargaze
marketplace,
where
you
just.
Can
you
know
you
just
there's
a
fixed
price,
not
not
buy
and
sell
orders
like
active
matching
engine,
so
we're
not
launching
with
this
super
advanced
matching
engine
dex
design
that
aaron
has
put
together,
which
is
freaking
phenomenal.
B
If
get
people
hyped
on
that,
and
it
looks
as
though
dex
that
dex
is
probably
being
postponed
unless
the
community
really
wants
focus
on
it
until
potentially
early
next
year,
because
we
really
want
to
focus
on
the
data
story
and
the
issuance,
because
supply
is
really
the
issue
here.
We're
only
going
to
be
serving
land
steward
and
sort
of
feel
like
this
sort
of
fixed
price
marketplace
is
good
enough
for
right
now.
B
So,
within
those
constraints,
I
don't
really
think
there's
a
big
issue
with
having
multiple
different
currency
choices
right,
because
it's
simply
our
and
and
we
may
learn
something
and
as
a
community,
we
may
want
to
restrict
it
and
have
a
say
one,
but
I
think
you
know
you
would
just
go
into
the
marketplace
and
you'd
be
able
to
see
the
different
eco
credits.
B
Maybe
there's
a
you
know:
city,
forest
credit
from
cincinnati
and
there's
a
there's,
a
city
forest
credit
from
seattle
and
there's
a
indigenous
forest
conservation
credit
from
brazil
and
there's
a
you
know:
marine
conservation,
marine
protection
area
from
new
atlantis
et
cetera.
Each
of
those
I
think
could
be
listed.
You
know
one's
usdc
one's
region,
one's
adam,
two
are
in
usdc
one's
in
die
and
I
don't
think
that'd
be
too
big
of
an
issue.
I
also
think
that
probably
do
some
magic
without
too
much
trouble.
I
mean
at
the
beginning.
B
People
are
gonna
have
to
you
know,
maybe
hop
over
to
osmo,
stop
and
then
come
and
make
their
purchase.
And
that's
that's.
You
know
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
pain
in
the
butt.
From
a
ux
perspective,
but
it's
not
too
bad,
I
think,
for
you
know
early
adopters
and
like
really
where
we're
going,
but
in
the
future.
B
I
think
we
want
to
hide
a
lot
of
that
under
the
hood
and
probably
have
an
integration
with
osmosis
or
a
stable
swap
so
people
just
don't
even
just
you
know,
we
probably
move
towards
over
time
with
the
decks.
We
probably
move
towards
a
single
currency
and
sort
of
under
the
hood
swapping
so
that
people
are
just
sort
of
seamlessly
moving
into
the
currency
that
the
bid
or
sell
order
is
in,
and
you
know
just
kind
of
don't
even
have
to
think.
B
Well,
unless
there's
a
big
questions
or
comments
out
from
the
audience,
I
think
I'll
start
to
move
us
towards
the
conversation
about
roadmap
and
just
like,
what's
coming
up
where
we're
at
agent
ledger,
4.0
and
nct
launch
and
the
rest
of
that,
because
we've
been
we've
been
busy
and
and
want
to
give
everybody
an
update.
B
So
unless
there's
burning
comments
or
questions
or
ideas
that
I'm
happy
to
kind
of
continue
talking
about
this,
I
think
I'll
move
us
towards
the
next
phase
of
the
conversation,
all
right,
so
yeah
roadmap
4.0.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
we're
basically
we're
we're
wrapping
up
the
mark,
the
marketplace
and
and
the
interfaces
all
of
that
is
pretty
much
there
and
we
are
are
getting
really
close
to
ready
to
go.
B
What
is
taking
a
little
longer-
and
we
didn't
expect
is-
is
a
polygon
bridge
and
special
when
we
initially
decided
to
go
with
nct
with
the
nature
carbon
ton
standard,
which
we
co-developed
with
toucan,
to
try
to
create
sort
of
an
inter
block
chain,
nature,
carbon
ton,
sort
of
standard.
With
this
idea
of
market
efficiency
and
fungibility
of
a
natural
carbon
ton,
we
were
sort
of
thinking.
We
were
going
to
be
able
to
pull
off
inventory
management
and
making
sure
the
marketplace
was
primed.
B
You
know
just
sort
of
with
at
liquidity
providers,
basically
just
like
engaging
bull
in
the
industry
to
make
sure
that
there's
enough
liquidity
in
the
market.
Now,
after
a
lot
of
conversations
with
toucan
and
with
other
teams,
it
became
clear
that
this
was
going
to
present
a
pretty
enormous
arbitrage
advantage
to
to
sort
of
privileged
people
that
those
market
makers
were
going
to
have
a
huge
privilege
of.
B
If
there's
difference
of
prices
between
the
osmosis
marketplace,
like
our
ibc,
the
region
and
osmosis
corner
of
things
and
polygon,
which
is
like
the
sushi
swap
essentially,
is
the
decks
that
they're
using
you
know.
You'd
only
be
sort
of
like
these
market
making
whales,
which
would
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
that
arb
opportunity,
and
so.
B
With
all
the
different
stakeholders-
and
you
know,
we
sort
of
made
the
tough
decision
from
a
go-to-market
perspective,
but
I
think
really
the
right
decision
for
the
community
to
postpone
the
nct
launch
until
we
had
a
bridge
okay.
Now,
the
bridge
in
question
is
from
a
bridge
like
using
axillar
or
existing
bridges
for,
and
it's
just
an
arbitrary
token
right,
because
this
bridge
actually
needs
to
transfer
the
utility
of
a
carbon
credit
over
the
bridge.
B
Liabilities,
essentially,
is
the
core
utility
here,
and
we
really
realize
that
that
that
whole
utility
needs
to
transfer,
for
instance,
from
polygon
and
the
two
can
contracts
over
to
region
ledger,
and
so
that
precipitated
a
whole.
B
You
know
engineering
and
design
endeavor
to
create
essentially
a
new
bridge
functionality
that
allows
us
to
transfer
that
utility
wholesale
and
make
sure
it's
done
in
a
secure
way
designed
robustly
can
be
audited
so
that
we
can
have
market
efficiency
and
arbitrage
is
sort
of
you
know
open
to
the
whole
public
and
we're
not
privileging
insiders.
So
that's
sort
of
the
whole
story
again
I'll,
be
working
with
some
folks
to
get
this
up
into
the
osmosis
forums
and
the
region
forums
and
give
everybody
the
updates.
B
But
what
that
means
is
a
chunk
of
the
region.
Engineering
team
is
building
this
bridge
in
partnership
with
the
toucan
team.
It's
very
exciting.
This
is
going
to
give
regen
access
to
all
of
these
different
evm
chains
because
we'll
be
able
to
rebridge
to
cello.
You
know
polygon
straight
to
ethereum
at
the
for
this
first
implementation,
it'll
just
be
polygon,
because
that's
the
current
place
where
carbon
liquidity
is
so
it's
going
to
be
quite
cool,
but
it's
you
know,
postponing
launch
of
the
nct
liquidity
pool
for
onto
osmosis
right.
B
This
is
regen
osmo
liquidity
pair,
I'm
a
little
reluctant
to
give
an
estimate
of
when
that's
going
to
take
place,
because
the
engineering
team
will
come
back
to
me
and
say
why
did
you
say
that
we're
you
know,
I
think,
we're
still
a
little
ways
out.
I'm
guessing
you
know
it's
going
to
be
late
june,
maybe
early
july.
You
know-
and
that's
like
take
that
you
know
plea-
take
that
with
sort
of
a
soft
focus,
because
there's
a
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
properly
engineered
properly
audited.
B
This
isn't
something
to
rush,
so
that's
kind
of
the
overview
and
the
update
of
the
sort
of
the
bridge
and
the
initial
sort
of
liquidity
launch
of
of
carbon
into
the
ibc
economy.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
questions
or
comments
out
there
around
that
update.
B
Okay,
so
you
know,
will
new
atlantis
you're
welcome
to
chime
in
if
you
want,
but
I
feel
fairly
complete
with
that.
If
there's
anybody
in
the
audience
who
wants
to
you
know
chime
in
and
you
know
like.
A
B
Know
or
alternatively,
if
people
are
like,
oh
whew,
glad
that
that's
happening,
you
know
I
actually
think
going
slow
if
we're
learning
anything
in
crypto
over
the
years.
I
realized.
I'm
such
a
believer,
and
you
know
slow
is
smooth.
Smooth
is
fast.
It's
you
know,
do
things
right
the
first
time,
otherwise
you
know
you
end
up
eating
it
in
the
long
run.
So
this
is
the
kind
of
example
of
you
know
when
you
hit
those
those
understandings
of
okay.
B
If
we
just
hack
this
together
and
throw
it
into
the
market,
it's
going
to
create
some
distortions
in
the
market,
and
that's
not
what
we
want.
What
we
actually
you
know
what
this
is
all
about
is
creating
fair,
transparent
playing
field
around
carbon,
not
privileging,
a
select
group
of
people.
Okay,
once.
B
That
better
to
just
go
slow
antonio,
I'm
gonna
get
you
up.
Let
me
see
here
there
you
go,
welcome
up
and
yeah
so
still
super
excited.
So
what
this
means
is
that,
as
region
network
4.0
comes
online
with
the
marketplace
functionality
and
with
the
data
module,
which
is
going
to
be
great.
B
We're
going
to
have
sort
of
this
suite
of
minimum
viable
interactions
available,
which
are
going
to
include
like
liquidity,
provision
for
carbon,
the
ability
for
people
to
create
new,
baskets
and
and
different
forms
of
sort
of,
like
more
liquidity,
pools
around
eco
credits,
so
that'll
be
interesting
to
see
if
people
start
playing
with
it
and
then,
of
course,
the
data
story
which
could
go
into
a
whole
sort
of
side
juncture
and
about
a
month
ago,
or
so
we
had
a
whole
beautiful
spaces
that
was
really
digging
into
that
ecological
data
story.
Antonio.
A
Hello
friends
happy
to
be
here.
I
was
curious,
I'm
watching
the
over
on
juno,
the
the
juno
development
fund
for
the
terra
care
developers
and
thinking
of
the
upgrades
to
region
and
how
that
plays
into
like
the
cosmos
and
inter
interchange
functionality.
A
So
I
guess
the
idea
would
be
if
you
have
a
dow
on
juno,
could
it
execute
some
contract
on
region
with
these
upgrades,
or
you
know,
if
there's
some
idea
to
get
some
of
these
onboarded
terra
developers
working
on
you
know,
eco
credit,
backed
stablish
coins,
so
just
kind
of
curious
to
see
what
the
thinking
around
that
development
is.
B
B
A
B
Yeah
we've
been,
we've
been
chazz,
a
lot,
definitely
very
interested.
If
there
are
folks,
I
know
the
folks
at
oglala
life
and
others
in
the
community
have
been
jamming
on
cosmos,
stuff,
stargaze
and
juno.
I
mean
the
shortest
it's
rich.
It's
a
rich
area
of
opportunity.
I'm
super
glad
the
juno
community.
I
was
just
voting
yes
with
my
juno
on
that
and
pinging
some
of
the
core
devs
about
that.
Just
to
applaud
that
quick
action.
I
think
it's
really
fantastic.
B
We've
also
been
thinking
about
different
ways.
We
can
support.
You
know
people,
the
terra,
diaspora
and
yeah
excited.
I
think
you
know
the
the
specific
functionality
you're
referring
to
is
interchange,
accounts
and
interchange
accounts.
Are,
you
know,
active
and
live
there?
Is
some
engineering
work
to
do
to
to
sort
of
like
crank
through
that
and
see
how
it
works?
There's
also
inter
chain
account
interactions
between
closest
and
regen
that
are
being
worked
on
for
creating
sort
of
an
external
incentive
gauge
potentially
to
incentivize
region,
nct
and
region,
osmo
liquidity.
B
So
there
are
some
teams
work
doing
r
d
there,
and
I
think
that
would
be
really
awesome
to
start
to
see.
Then,
on
the
on
the
flip
side,
there's
sort
of
the
restraint
side
just
to
sort
of
like
always
be
speaking
that
we
did.
We
really
have
been
thinking
a
lot
about
cosmos
and,
as
folks
out
there
probably
know,
aaron
crelias
was
really
the
the
lead
architect
of
pulling
together
the
cosmos
approach
and
we
feel
like
qasim
wasm.
B
Our
particular
approach
to
region
ledger
means
that
I
think
we're
not
going
to
be
adopting
qasim
wasm
on
to
region
ledger
itself.
B
Probably
the
soonest
that
would
happen
would
be
sometime
next
year
like
the
beginning
of
next
year,
and
that's
because
we're
really
focused
on
sort
of
lean
hardened,
a
lean
and
hardened
functionality
approach.
That
is
really
anchored
in
the
core
use
case
and
we
do
want
to
create
sort
of
a
dev
experience
in
a
dev
story
for
people
to
do
other
things.
But
cosmosome
and
the
sdk
are
both
changing
quickly
enough.
B
B
Choose
one
or
the
other
so
for
now,
and
and
we
expect
that
to
sort
of
converge
and
mutual
stability
between
the
cosmos
approach
and
the
sdk
approach
to
be
happening
around
the
end
of
the
year,
and
so
at
that
point
we're
really
excited
and
I
think
we
will
sort
of
be
creating
a
permission:
a
permissioned
cosmos,
a
governance,
gated
cosmosim
module.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
community
excited
about
that.
In
the
meantime
you
know
regen
ledger:
4.0
is
going
to
have
dow
functionality.
B
You
know
credit
minting
ecological
data
signing
and
marketplace.
So
all
a
lot
of
these
sort
of
key
functions
will
be
right
there
baked
in
and
can
just
be
accessed
and
controlled
right
from
region
ledger
or
via
enter
chain
accounts
for
the
brave.
So
does
that
and
tony
does
that
sort
of
answer
answer
your
question
there
in
a
roundabout
sort
of
way.
A
Yeah,
that's
a
really
good
overview.
I
was
just
thinking
you
know.
If
somebody
wants
to
launch,
you
know,
go
credit
on
juno.
You
know
is
that
something
that
could
be
sent
over
ibc
to
to
region,
but
they
should.
B
A
B
A
B
A
B
B
There
was
those
two
big
topics
to
go
through
and
antonio
thanks
for
hopping
up
and
asking
about
the
sort
of
tara
dev
story
and,
and
how
that,
hopefully,
that's
useful
for
folks
out
there
to
kind
of
just
like
get
the
get
the
update
again,
there's
going
to
be
a
couple
of
things
popping
up
in
commonwealth
I'll,
be
pinging
people
as
those
arrive
and
tweeting
about
it.
So
we
can
get
folks
engaged
thanks.
B
So
much
for,
for
all
of
you,
yeah
engaging
and
caring
about
this
big,
crazy,
beautiful
project
that
we're
all
co-creating
together,
it's
yeah,
it's
a,
I
think
the
the
refined
narrative
is
stronger
than
ever
with
things
like
just
happened
with
tara.
B
You
know,
but
like
really
grounding
all
of
this
in
logical
and
social
reality
and
and
creating
these
sort
of
stable
and
transparent
forms
of
currency
and
financial
instrumentation
is
just
yeah
it's
more
important
than
ever
so
thanks
everybody
see
you
all
out
on
the
interwebs
and
yeah
feel
free
to
ping
with
questions
ciao.