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A
A
This
is
the
September
5th
2023
Rook
community
meeting
in
the
zoom
chat
right
now,
I
will
drop
a
link
to
the
agenda
doc.
If
folks
don't
already
have
access
to
it,
and
everyone
is
welcome
to
add
suggestions
for
the
agenda
there,
so
we'll
get
started
with
Milestone
checkup
stuff,
actually,
no
before
that
I
think
I
I.
What
I
actually
should
start
with
here
is
I
owe
an
apology
to
this
group,
I
believe
where
last
community
meeting
I
was
on
PTO
and
I.
A
Had
somebody
from
my
team
to
come
and
get
the
record
you
know
get
somebody
assigned
to
host,
so
they
can
get
the
recording
started
and
all
that,
but
the
major
step
that
I
failed
to
do
this
time
and
I
think
it's
the
only
time
I
failed
to
do
so
was
I
forgot
to
give
them
alternate
host
permissions,
so
they
were
here
and
just
as
unhelpful
as
any
anybody
else
could
have
been
in
that
situation.
So
I
messed
that
up,
and
that
is
my
apology
for
that
transgression.
A
So
then,
let's
Travis
and
I
chatted
a
little
bit
as
well
about
there
is
a
possibility
to
of
moving
to
some
other
meeting
software.
That's
maybe
this
F
team
is
using.
Was
this
Travis
jitten?
Is
that
what
it.
B
B
A
Well,
fair
enough,
but
we
can
still
consider
other
Alternatives
then,
but
it's
definitely
a
lesson
learned
about
making
sure
that
people
have
alternative
host
permissions,
Okay
cool.
So
let's
take
a
look
at
it
Milestones,
so
it
looks
like
we
do
have
an
upcoming
1.11.11.
That
is
a
lot
of
ones
in
a
single
release.
There
that's
interesting.
Let's
take
a
look
to
see
then
at
the
board
to
see
what's
coming
up
in
that
release
looks
like
everything's
in
the
done
column,
I.
B
Don't
think
there's
anything
on
the
board
there
to
discuss
per
se,
but
I
know
there
are
a
couple
of
fixes
that
have
been
backboarded
to
the
1.11
branch.
Since
our
left
1.11
release,
it
wasn't
urgent,
but
I
felt
like
okay,
we
could
we
could
do
a
release,
it's
been
I
think
six
or
eight
weeks,
even
by
the
time
we
get
that
next
release
out
so
just
a
good
time
to
get
a
patch
release
out
in
case
people
want
to
pick
up
those
fixes
yeah.
A
And
Travis
would
that
coincide
then,
with
the
two
weeks
from
the
last
1.12
patch
release.
Oh.
A
All
right
sweet
so
then,
let's
talk
about
that
then
actually,
let's
talk
about
the
last
the
latest
release
overall
then,
which
would
be
1.12.3
and
just
talk
about
real
quick.
What
was
in
that
and
then
we'll
talk
about?
What's
going
to
be
coming
up
in
one
of
the
12.4.
B
Sure
yeah
that
first
one's
an
interesting
one
to
call
out
the
obc's
had
an
issue
where,
if
you
created
two
with
the
same
bucket
but
a
different
OBC,
when
you
deleted
one,
it
would
effectively
delete
the
other
one
as
well
or
the
underlying
bucket.
So
that's
fixed
now
from
Tiffin
and
then
otherwise
I
mean
what's
worth
mentioning
here.
We
added
kubernetes
1.28
to
the
test.
Suite
ghost
girl
in
1.21
support.
B
A
All
right
sounds
good,
then
then,
let's
go
ahead
and
look
at
the
1.12
board
to
see
what
may
be
upcoming
for
1.12.4
I,
don't
know
about
a
little
bit
more
than
a
week
away.
C
B
Holiday
yesterday,
I'm
still
catching
up
for
sure
today,
but
what
is
that?
One
in
progress,
Causey
driver
configuration
not
changed
to
an
operator,
restart
yeah
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
really
urgent
there
to
discuss
or
in
the
to
do
column.
On
my
mind
at
least
so
the
stuff
exporter.
A
So
there
isn't
Travis,
on
your
mind,
like
an
explicit
issue
that
is
driving
would
be
driving
that
release
it's
just
a
the
just.
The
products
we've
made
since
the
last
regularly
scheduled
one
and
that's
what
we'll
get
out
exactly
cool.
B
B
B
A
A
Then,
while
we're
early
in
the
Milestone
does
that
sound
good
yeah.
B
B
Yeah
I'd,
say
1.13
and
we're
still
the
coup
cuddle
plug-in.
We're
saying
Coupe
cuddle
now,
instead
of
group
group
kind
of
plug-in
is,
is
just
an
active
area.
There's
Disaster
Recovery
is
always
an
area
where
like
to
get
more
improvements,
there's
quasi
stabilization
or
because
right
now
it's
still
declared
experimental.
B
C
C
Do
a
V1
Alpha
two
by
adding
bucket
quotas
to
the
design,
I.
Think
one
of
the
challenges
that
like
cozy,
Upstream,
I,
I
guess
effort
is
is
having
is
that
the
like
there
were
a
ton
of
interested
parties
leading
up
to
V1
alpha
one
and
a
lot
of
them
dropped
off
afterwards.
C
So
it's
it's
mostly
just
us
Rick
and
I,
guess,
rook
and
stuff,
and
the
like
one
of
the
storage
leaders,
Xin
Yang
that
I
mentioned
before
and
someone
from
Mineo
is
leading
the
efforts
and
someone
from
azure
is
pretty
heavily
involved
as
well,
and
someone
else
has
started
coming
in
as
well,
but
I
I,
don't
know
if
I
know
like
where
they're
from,
but
really
it's
like,
four
people,
five
people,
maybe
so
I'm
and
thinking.
Probably
a
good
approach
from
here-
is
to
just
try
very
small
iterative.
C
Updates
like
like
here
with
bucket
quotas,
just
making
a
very
like
small,
contained
Improvement
and
then
just
getting
trying
to
get
feedback
from
Rick.
C
Wrote
the
users
to
the
while
wanting
quotas
and
moving
from
there
yeah.
C
One
very
yeah,
interesting
because
I
don't
know
what
else
to
call
it.
C
A
Okay,
hey
blade
is
that
is
that
more
on
the
side
of
like
users
and
adopters,
or
is
it
more
on
the
side
of
you
know,
like
other
storage
engines
or
storage
projects?
That
would
you
know
kind
of
be
backing
underlying
storage
for
that
the
interface.
C
A
Yeah
for
sure,
for
sure,
so
you
know
with
the
object,
storage
interface
there
you
know
like
it's:
I
can
see
benefits
for
for
two
sides
right
for
the
consumer
side
and
the
supplier
side
right.
So
you
know
like
it
when
we've
seen
sort
of
a
drop
off
there
or
once
once
it
got
to
Alpha
or
is
that
drop
off
on
both
sides
of
the
equation?
There?
You
know
users
as
well
as
storage
providers,.
B
C
The
people
who
were
involved
were
people
who
were
also
involved
with
the
CSI,
just
like
the
container
storage
interface
yep
to
sign.
C
So
it's
hard
for
me
to
gauge
whether
those
people
were
interested
from
the
perspective
of
users
or
providers
like
kind
kind
of
both,
like
that's
I,
guess
kind
of
the
the
state
of
the
API,
spec
and
I
I
suspect
that
maybe
some
of
them
were
involved
out
of,
like
the
goodness
of
their
heart
and
like
just
being
asked
to
like
help,
get
this
thing
going
and
now
they're.
C
You
know
moving
on
to
the
things
they
actually
care
about
that.
That's.
A
C
That's
not
something
I
know,
but
that's
just
sort
of
my
kind
of
gut
check
on
on
probably
why
things
are
the
way
they
are,
but
yeah
I
mean
I
I'm,
pretty
I'm,
pretty
convinced
that
this
is
worth
investing
in
because
like
having
a
affordable
object.
Storage
interface
across
kubernetes
clusters
is
something
that's
like
just
a
glaring
hole
and
really
makes
of
like
hybrid
Cloud
stuff
much
more
manageable
for
for
end
users.
I
think
once
this
is
available,
I
think
it
will
get
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
traction.
A
Yeah
yeah
cool
thanks
for
that
Insight
Blaine
definitely
appreciate
it.
D
A
All
right,
so
that
was
in
the
context
of
investments
from
1.13
anything
else
to
call
out
before
we
move
to
the
community
topic
section.
B
We
definitely
need
to
get
the
roadmap
updated
with
all
those.
A
Kinds:
yep
sounds
good
action
item,
yeah,
I,
just
roll
it
into
one
sure
turn
all
right.
Subom
and
Travis
update
on
CI
stability.
B
Yeah
just
to
note,
as
of
last
week,
we
still
had
one
test
our
multis
integration
test
that
was
failing
consistently,
but
that
magically
got
resolved
result
itself.
There
must
have
been
it
should
have
infrastructure
update
that
then
worked
with
the
multis
networking.
So
anyway,
we
only
have
intermittent
issues
now
I
mean
still,
there
are
more
intermittent
issues
than
I
would
like.
B
So
we
still
need
to
keep
an
eye
on
them
and
work
on
them
as
much
as
possible,
but
yeah
just
a
note
that
I
feel
like
we're
in
a
better
place
than
we
were
for
I.
Think
since
the
end
of
July,
that's
good
at.
D
A
If
you
wanted
to
mention
Cube
day,
India
coming
up.
D
Yep
I
I,
just
I,
was
talking
to
shubham
earlier
about
it
and
it's
happening
on
8th
December,
but
the
cfp
ends
on
17th
of
September,
so
we
have
just
got
almost
okay
about
12
days
to
submit
it
so
Travis
I
was
thinking,
maybe
just
I'm
gathering
ideas.
I
have
a
couple
ideas,
but
what
do
you
think
about
a
Rook
panel
there?
If
we
suggest
hey
Travis
and
everyone
whatever
I
mean
just
like
we
did
it?
Cubecon
Europe
right.
B
C
A
D
Yep,
so
just
a
couple
ideas
I
was
having,
but
mainly
I
was
thinking
if
we
could
do
a
panel
and
it
it's
all.
It's
always
great
to
have
a
panel
right
where
we
can
get
feedback
from
the
storage
Community
about
various
use
cases
and
various
ways
that
they're
using
Rook
and
just
talk
about
it,
especially
from
the
Indian
Community
as
well
here
so
sure
I
was
thinking.
If
we
could
do
that-
and
maybe
some
other
talk
too
right.
D
A
B
D
D
You
know
even
drakshit
is
there
right
who's
contributing
to
CSI
yeah.
B
D
I
was
thinking
so
maybe
we
could
have
people
all
around
and
yeah.
A
A
Exciting,
like
it
kind
of,
makes
me
wonder
too
what
what
other
Cube
days
are
out
there.
How
is
there
like
a
a
general
page
that
shows
all
of
them
yeah.
D
I
think
you
can
check
you
can
just
remove
Cube
day
India
from
there.
Okay.
A
D
B
A
I
thought
I
was
expecting
to
see
one
in
South
America
too,
that
there's
a
big
Community
down
there
for
sure.
Maybe
that
already
already
happened
or
it's
in
the
works
but
yeah.
These
are.
These
are
great
ideas,
though,
if
like
in
general,
if
we
have
folks
that
can
be
there,
these
are
great
venues,
for
you
know
continuing
to
do
reach
out
and
get
connected
with
more
adopters,
more
users,
more
community
members
like
yeah.
This
is
definitely
an
investment
worthwhile.
If
folks
are
available
to
be
there,
that
is.
D
Yeah
just
I
mean
that's
the
way
we're
I
mean
when
I
was
looking
at
the
various
topics.
It
was
all
across
AIML
data,
storage
and.
D
D
C
C
Yeah
I
mean
I'm,
always
writing
a
novel
about
maltes
I
wanna
I
wish
I
wish.
You
were
kidding.
C
Yeah
I
wanted
to
I
guess
bring
this
up
so
I
I
have
a
PR
for
improvements
to
Rooks
like
the
slider,
Auto
detection,
and
so
specifically,
this
is
fixing
some
issues
reported
by
a
couple
users
around
trying
to
use
cni
plug-in
chaining,
which
is
something
that's
allowed
by
multis
and
Allowed
by
the
like
Sig
Network,
like
the
kubernetes
Sig
Network
group.
There,
like
cni
specification.
C
C
Like
the
the
point
of
maltes
is
that
network
is
networks
are
incredibly
complex
and
sometimes
you
need
special
comp
configurations
to
kind
of
Wiggle
things
into
your
own
network
environment
and,
like
our
own
support
of
that
is
like
really
should
be
as
transparent
and
hands-off
as
possible.
C
I
think
it
was
probably
not
a
great
decision
to
try
to
Auto
detect
the
Network
like
cider
address
ranges
in
the
first
place,
because
that
that
has
meant
that
now
that's
something
that
we
should
support
for
backwards,
compatibility
and
that's
just
not
not
going
to
work
in
quite
a
quite
a
few,
pretty
like
even
still
fairly
standard
configurations,
I
think,
like
notably,
we
didn't
actually
support
the
DHCP
provider
before,
which
means,
if
someone
had
a
network
where
they
had
a
DHCP
server
and
had
their
own
network
monitoring
that
they
wanted
to
use,
it
wouldn't
work
with
Rook,
so
yeah
I've
pivoted
the
auto
detection,
to
stop
trying
to
look
into
non
non-standardized
specs
in
the
like.
C
Specifically
what
the
IP
address
management,
the
ipam
spec
is
just
a
it's
just
a
string
and
instead
of
you
know
inspecting
that
arbitrary
string
that
is
different
for
every
network
provider
and
trying
to
predict
how
every
cni
would
handle
cider
address
ranges.
C
Then
we
just
use
a
black
box
approach
in
the
the
form
that
we
used
for
the
mon
canary.
So
when
we
implemented
the
mon
Canary.
C
C
We
don't
we
don't
know
what
the
cube
scheduler
is
going
to
do.
We
can
kind
of
predict
for
simple
scenarios,
but
for
anything
more
complicated
we
just
don't
know
it
could
be
anything,
so
we
just
schedule
a
canary
see
where
it
places
it,
and
then
we
use
that-
and
we
do
a
similar
thing
here
now
with
networking
to
make
a
best
effort
approach
to
Auto
detection
and
then
the
thing
that
would
have
been
easiest
to
do
from
the
first
place
is
this
like
actually
makes
it
so
Rook
can
support.
Whatever
multis
configuration
you
want.
A
A
Interrupt
real,
quick,
sorry
to
interrupt
real,
quick
I,
so
I
have
a
hard
stop
at
30.
After
today,
so
I
I
made
Travis
the
host
and
Travis.
You
can
go
ahead
and
share
your
screen
of
the
agenda
doc
to
finish
off
the
rest
of
the
meeting.
That
would
be
greatly
appreciated.
C
Yeah,
the
so
sorry
to
pick
up
where
I
left
off
the
the
kind
of
critical
part
that
really
means
that
Rook
can
support
whatever
multis
configuration
users
want
is
that
we
allow
them
to
override
the
address.
Cider
ranges
to
be
whatever
they
need.
If
Auto
detection
is
impossible,.
C
B
C
You
have
like
users
or
adopters
who
are
using
multis
today.
It
could
be
helpful
to
give
that
a
test
just
as
a
double
check.
C
Is
that
I'm
I'm
testing
the
fine
yeah
I'm
testing
as
much
as
I
can
configurations
should
be
backwards
compatible
and
auto
detection
shouldn't
fail
now,
where
it
succeeded
previously.