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A
D
You,
madam
chair,
councilmember,
Fowler,
thank
you
for
the
question.
I
would
say
that
it
was
anticipated
that
the
request
would
be
made
as
the
discussion
and
council
member
Johnson
also
asks
you
to
wait
and
if,
if
at
all,
in
terms
of
the
conversations
with
the
I
can't
remember
the
name
of
the
the
committee
that
we
put
together,
the
city
county
saw
salt
lake
in
the
state.
We
were
anticipating
and
talked
and
discussed
at
the
beginning.
The
idea
of
the
fee
waiver,
the
administration,
obviously
is
recommending
supports
it.
D
It
was
not
I,
think
I,
don't
think
it's
accurate
to
say
it
was
factored
into
the
cost,
though
I
think
it
is
important
to
say
that
with
16
million
dollars
of
state
funding,
I
believe
the
county,
maybe
putting
some
funding
in
and
then
the
majority
of
it
being
private
dollars.
The
administration
is
recommending
it
because
we
feel
it's
good
policy
for
the
administration
to
be
for
the
city
to
be
a
financial
contributor
to
the
construction
of
the
facilities
as
well.
If.
E
I
can
ask
a
follow-up
question.
You
mentioned
to
the
16
million
dollar
state
funding.
Is
that
what
we,
what
the
state
appropriated
this
year
to
the
areas
that
were
because
there
was
a
bill
right
if
I'm
correct
on
this,
that
was
passed
to
areas
that
are
going
to
be
housing,
these
HRC's,
to
provide
some
funding
to
that
and
are
we
as
a
city
are
HRC's
tapping
into
that
funding
as
well?
Do.
D
That
actually
is
a
separate
funding
source.
We
do
anticipate
not
in
this
first
year
that
the
first
year,
as
was
our
understanding
during
the
legislative
session.
The
first
year
is
more
geared
towards
all
Salt
Lake
in
Midvale,
but
Salt
Lake
City
will
be
eligible
to
go
be
through
a
grant
process
to
apply
for
funding
through
that
mitigation
fund.
The
16
million
dollars
was
a
part
of
the
original
ask,
which
was
twenty
seven
million
dollars.
D
Seven
ongoing
twenty
one
time
where
we
get
from
the
20
to
the
sixteen
and
the
one-time
dollars
for
construction
is
not
gonna,
say
a
mouse,
because
I
can't
remember
the
exact
amounts,
but
a
million
or
a
little
over.
A
million
is
going
towards
opening
of
the
Center
for
women
and
women
and
children
in
Murray,
which
is
a
Volunteers
of
America
that
is
focused
on
women
with
addiction
issues
and
their
children.
F
F
F
G
B
G
H
I
think
in
general,
the
council,
staff
and
I
think
Sylvia
noted
this
at
the
beginning
of
her
comments.
It's
just
the
precedent
for
the
general
fund
budget
impact
that
it
sets
as
opposed
to
the
actual
dollar
amount
in
this
particular
request.
So
how
do
we
evaluate
those
requests
on
an
equal
basis
so
because.
F
C
I,
don't
want
I,
don't
usually
jump
in
before
I've
gone
through
all
of
you,
but
both
what
councilmember,
Fowler
and
councilmember
kitchen
have
said
have
brought
up
for
me.
The
precedents
piece
of
this
conversation
that
there
actually
is
a
recent
precedence
with
the
county's
request
for
us
to
do
a
few
waiver
on
their
county
health
facility.
Just
a
few
blocks
from
here
that
was
denied
by
this
body,
so
I
think
at
this
time,
it'd
be
a
good
time
for
us
to
bring
up
the
folks
from
the
shelter,
the
homeless
board
and
perhaps
David.
D
Well
and
that's
on
me,
I
apologize
for
that
I'm,
not
I,
wasn't
very
involved
with
the
County
Health
Department
conversation
so
difficult
for
me
to
provide
any
kind
of
contrast
and
so
I'll
just
be
squirrely.
From
my
perspective,
with
the
new
resource
centers
in
the
work
with
shelter,
the
homeless,
the
county
in
the
state
I
understand
the
concerns
about
the
precedence
being
set,
I
think
from
my
perspective
and
from
the
administration's
perspective,
what
is
unique
about
this
particular
project
is.
D
C
Appreciate
that
perspective
David,
because
I
may
be
speaking
from
a
different
position
and
as
the
chair
of
the
Council
we
I
feel
like
I
can
say:
we've
been
left
out
from
the
shelter
the
homeless
perspective
of
invitations
to
participate
in
the
groundbreaking
of
the
the
women's
shelter
that
will
be
coming
on
700
South.
We
learned
about
that
through
the
media
and
there
have
been
no
communications
with
this
body.
C
We've
extended
actually
invitations
for
your
group
to
come
and
update
us
after
we
had
some
questions
for
the
county
about
how
the
the
process,
the
collective
impact
process
was
going,
and
so
we
have
I,
don't
think
we
feel
that
collaborative
effort
and
yeah
I
will
say
it's
this.
It
really
isn't
about
the
dollar
amount.
I
think
there
is
a
partnership.
I
am
grateful
for
the
state's
participation
in
this
and
I.
C
C
I
am
going
to
support
this
request,
but
I
have
a
lot
of
frustrations
that
the
body
that
it
wasn't
a
collaborative
effort
with
the
county
or
with
the
state
to
choose
the
sites
that
was
really
taken
on
by
the
city
and
appropriately
so,
but
it
was
a
good
deal
of
work
and
a
good
deal
of
public
feedback
that
we've
received.
That
I
feel
like
has
should
should
have
entitled
us
to
continued
communication
in
this
process
and
and
I.
Don't
I'm
not
setting
that
at
your
feet.
D
I
appreciate
that
madam
chair,
but
I
will
take
some
responsibility
about
the
majority
of
the
responsibility
for
that
very
much.
My
role
with
the
shelter
the
homeless,
with
the
construction
with
the
design
process,
is
to
be
that
liaison
for
the
city,
not
just
the
mayor's
office,
and
so
that
the
responsibility
does
fall
back
at
me.
So
I
apologize
for
that
and
will
do
a
much
better
job
moving
forward.
Thank.
E
E
I
Good
question
I
think,
first
of
all,
I'm
Preston,
Cochran,
I'm,
executive
director
of
shelter,
the
homeless,
going
back
to
madam
chair
Mendenhall's
comment
on
I
welcome
any
opportunity
to
sit
down
with
anyone
anytime
to
bring
you
up
to
speed
on
anything.
So
please
reach
out
to
me
I'm
happy
to
meet
with
you
your
constituents
at
any
time.
I
So
as
far
as
the
ground,
breaking
again,
we
apologize
oversight
on
our
on
our
end
to
make
sure
everyone
was
invited
to
the
groundbreaking
event
media
event
going
back
to
your
question
in
terms
of
any
areas
that
might
be
overlooked
within
the
facility.
So
right
now,
when
the
initial
budget
for
all
three
resource
centers
was
implemented,
we're
still
working
through
any
sort
of
ways
to
minimize
overhead
costs.
I
The
tariffs
have
definitely
played
an
integral
part
in
terms
of
wood
materials,
steel,
those
costs
have
really
shot
up,
and
so
our
initial
budget,
compared
to
where
we
were
a
year
ago
from
where
we
are
today,
is
higher
for
those
for
all
three
and
so
taking
the
impact
and
permit
fees
will
go
right
back
into
construction
costs.
So
that's
the
request
that
we're
making.
E
K
E
Me
and
I,
like
the
design
and
we've
all
been
to
our
open
house
meetings
and
and
we've
worked
with
the
architect
and
she's
amazing
and
great,
and
so
it's
important
and
again
for
the
analysis
that
I
believe
we
have
to
go
through
in
order
to
say
this
is
something
we
feel
comfortable
in
waving.
These
fees
I
sort
of
need
a
little
more
than
just
construction
concepts
so
and.
K
I
could
speak
so
I'm
Ben,
C
strand
with
the
Gardner
company,
we're
a
developer
and
we've
donated
our
services
to
help
in
this
process.
So
we've
been
involved
throughout
the
design
process
and
something
I
can
speak
to
to
kind
of
echo
what
Preston
said
about
cost.
We
have
seen
an
increase
in
cost
and
we're
kind
of
moving
we're
working
with
the
moving
target
as
we're
getting
our
numbers
back
from
contractors
and
their
subs,
but
something
that's
different
about
these
homeless
Resource
Center's.
K
That
makes
them
unique
is
the
program
so
we're
designing
the
the
building
and,
what's
inside,
to
a
specific
program,
and
that
includes
having
office
space
having
different
rooms
having
it's
just
much
more
intensive
than
just
saying.
Ok,
here's
a
building
and
here's
your
basic
rooms
I
mean
we're
there
looking
at
it's
being
designed
around
this
program
of
how
this
is
going
to
be
an
efficient
way
to
deal
with
this
with
with
the
clients
they're
calling.
So
that
is
also
we've
seen
the
cost
per
square
foot
in
the
building.
K
All
these
specific
programs
that
they're
implementing
that
is
also
driving
up
costs
significantly.
So
if
we
saw
you
know
this
would
go
directly
into
us
as
we're
sitting
down
and
making
the
program
I'm
saying
hey,
we
can
keep
this
portion
of
the
program
because
we
have
these
funds
if
they
were
taken
away.
We'd
have
to
look
at
what
do
we
have
to
take
out
on
how
we're
treating
the
clients
that
does
that
help?
That
was.
K
C
It
really
is
a
perfect
another
perfect
example
of
how
coming
to
us
to
talk
to
us
about
this
and
not
you
know,
in
community
councils,
all
across
the
city,
we've
all
been
in
community
council
meetings
when
a
developers
come
in
and
said
this
is
what
I'd
like
to
build.
If
you
can
support
my
request
for
a
special
exception,
you
know
this
process
and
if
you
don't
support
that
this
is
what
I'm
gonna
build
and
that's
not
a
friendly
hammer
here,
especially
on
something
as
serious
as
homeless,
resources
for
our
city,
so
councilmember
Johnston
in
kitchen.
L
I
Mean
going
back
to
the
question
families
question
would
be
we're
not
going
to
minimize
anything
in
terms
of
the
integrity,
quality
of
the
building
itself
or
pull
out
anything
that's
already
designed.
What
we're
looking
to
do
is
the
fees
that
we've
already
paid
to
put
those
back
into
programs
that
can
benefit
the
residents
who'll
be
staying
there,
though,.
L
L
K
K
L
I
L
The
question
example
that
goes
into
my
question
then:
are
there
pieces
you're
looking
at
that?
May
it
would
be
a
part
of
this
I.
Maybe
don't
go
into
specifics
here.
I
get
it,
but
it
was
written
in
the
report
and
that's
where
it's
prompting
the
questions
here
about
details.
So
but
you
don't
know
what
parts
may
be
good
term
not
fully
built
out
without
this
I.
K
L
K
L
K
L
L
I
I
think
one
question
two
bouts:
what
are
we
doing?
South
Salt
Lake,
so
each
side
is
very
unique.
The
South,
Salt
Lake
site
itself
has
a
lot
more
external
factors
in
terms
of
street
upgrades
right-of-way
issues,
water
lines
that
need
to
be
move
power
lines
and
need
to
be
moved.
We've
got
over
a
million
five
in
just
hard
costs
construction
to
do
just
that
in
terms
of
being
up
to
code
before
we
can
even
go
vertical
in
terms
of
construction.
I
L
From
the
council
perspective,
I
said
I'm
in
court
above
it
because
of
the
purple
the
chair
talked
about,
but
it
does
raise
questions
on
our
policy
because
first
up
I
mean
neighborhood
house
is
under
construction.
We
did
a
land
deal
with
them,
but
they
could
very
much
come
back
and
ask
for
the
permits.
We've
got
multiples
where
programs
like
this
offer
a
good
public
benefit
that
are
not
say
a
government
agency
like
the
county,
and
this
could
lead
to
those
discussions
very
quickly.
L
C
If
we
don't
follow
through
with
this,
we
don't
get
successful
HRC's
as
we've
been
promised.
We
would
I
don't
like
this
want
to
set
a
precedence
of
doing
a
fee
waiver
so
I
we
can.
We
have
a
budget
amendment
open
right
now.
We
could
add
this
as
a
council
added
item
for
this
amount
and
not
process
it
as
a
few
waiver
I'm.
H
G
D
C
B
So
I,
you
know.
As
far
as
the
policy
discussion
is
concerned,
I
am
not
I'm
not
inclined
to
support
a
reduction
if
there
are
a
waving
of
those
fees.
If
we
do
have
a
proposal
from
the
administration
on
you
know
a
donation
or
where
that
can
come
from
I'm
more
than
happy
to
entertain
that,
but
I
do
think
that
you
know
council
member
Johnston's
comments
there.
B
You
know
we
deal
with
a
lot
of
nonprofits
who
do
great
work
in
the
city
and
we
don't
waive
fees
for
everybody
else,
and
so
because
of
the
precedent
issue.
I
think
I
will
not
be
supporting
a
waiver,
but
I
would
be
very
happy
to
look
at
and
consider
different
ideas
on
donations
from
the
administration.
F
H
Never
done
something
like
this,
so
we're
all
making
it
up
a
little
bit,
but
in
terms
of
following
kind
of
forcing
this
to
fit
into
processes
that
already
exist,
the
city
frequently
will
treat
something
like
a
capital
project.
You
could
either
handle
it
in
your
CIP
or
you
could
handle
it
in
a
budget
amendment
like
you,
have
one
open
right
now
and
contribute
funds
to
make
a
project
happen.
So
sometimes
it's
a
neighborhood
park
that
they've
raised
money
and
you're
doing
the
sort
of
closing
funds
and
you're
you're
appropriating
money
to
finish
the
project.
H
The
other
Lane
that
this
also
fits
in
that
Mary
Beth
highlighted
is
you
could
sort
of
consider
this
affordable
housing
and
if
you
considered
it,
affordable
housing,
the
city's
ordinance
allows
impact
fees
to
be
waived
for
affordable
housing
or
waived
right,
they're
not
charged
initially.
So
you
could
treat
this
as
a
reimbursement
of
impact
fees
based
on
you
know
that.
C
H
But
I
think
that
the
city
could
make
that
finding
that
will
refunding
that.
It's
that
it's
aligned
it's
in
alignment
with
the
ordinance.
From
that
perspective,
probably
the
same
net
effect.
You
have
200
and
something
coming
thousand
coming
from
fund
balance
and
200
something
coming
from
impact
fees,
but
at
least
you're
not
sending
the
signal
to
future
organizations
that
there's
sort
of
an
open
call
for
applications
for
impact
fee
refunds,
because.
H
D
I
mean
I
think
we
have
the
budget
amendment.
That's
open
right
now
that
you're
hearing
there's
that
next
the
agenda
so
based
on
the
comments,
if
that's
the
direction
from
the
council,
we
can
definitely
come
back
with
an
alternative
proposal.
Okay
and
I
would
say
that
I
mean
this
is
just
off
the
top
of
my
head
and
listening
to
the
conversation
that
it
would
probably
be
a
mix
combination
of
looking
at
the
impact
fee
waiver
think
about
this
in
terms
of
serving
low
income
and
temporary
housing
and
probably
general
general
fun.
That's.
C
Anything
else
councilmembers
all
right.
Thank
you,
everyone
for
being
with
us
we're
going
to
move
on
to
a
budget
amendment
number
one
for
fiscal
year,
2018
19
I
think
we're
going
to
keep
Marybeth
at
the
table.
Thank
you
and
have
Sylvia
Richards
join
us
and,
of
course,
Jennifer
Bruno
and
just
be
here
to
answer
other
questions.
M
Sylvia
hi,
so
there
are
three
adjustments
requested
in
this
budget
amendment
amendment
three
from
the
administration
and
then
there
is
one
council
added
item
the
just
briefly.
The
three
include
the
transfer
of
6.2
million
6.3
million
from
airport
and
enterprise
friend
to
the
city's
general
fund
for
the
consolidation
of
the
airport
and
in
City
Police
Department's.
M
That
is
the
council
added
item
is
thank
you
9,000
to
reverse,
reimburse
the
RDA
for
Pioneer
Park
Improvement
cost
overruns,
and
we
can
go
through
that
in
more
detail.
The
second
page
is
from
the
administration
is
a
revenue
and
expense
update,
and
it
looks
like
overall.
Revenues
are
down
by
about
2
million
and
Marybeth.
Do
you
want
to
chime
in
on
that
or
warm
front
will
have
better
information
in
December
or
yes,.
G
So
let
me
explain:
these
are
May
updates
June,
because
we
received
most
of
our
taxes.
We
don't
receive
them
until
the
end
of
August,
it's
hard
for
me
to
give
you
a
June
update,
and
then
we
also
have
a
lot
of
variables
as
we're
working
through
the
audit
that
could
fluctuate,
and
until
we
have
a
final
audit
I,
don't
have
a
final
fund
balance
number
nor
a
final
revenue.
Number
I'll,
probably
have
a
closer
revenue.
Number
October,
ish
expenditures
are
gonna,
have
to
wait
until
final
final
kafirs
done
in
dis,
mid-december.
M
If
the
council
approves
the
proposed
expenditures,
fund
balance
would
be
estimated
at
11.30
two
percent,
just
over
30
point-
eight
million,
which
is
three
point:
six
million
above
the
minimum.
Ten
percent
and
page
three
of
the
staff
report
is
the
general
fund
fund,
balance
projections
and
then
item
a
do
you
want?
Does
the
council
wish
to
entertain
entertain
questions?
You
want
me
to
go
into
more
detail
about
item
a1,
madam
chair,
all
right,
it's
okay!
Do
you
want
to
do
you
want
me
to
go
into
more
detail
on
item
a1
the
transfer
these
members?
B
The
only
question
that
I
would
have
is
you
know
whether
both
to
put
both
the
police
department
yeah
well,
that
the
Salt
Lake
City
police
department,
the
airport
police
department,
are
supportive
of
my
understanding
is
that
they
are.
If
that
is
not
the
case,
let
me
know,
but
that
would
really
be
the
only
question
that
I
would
have
at
this
point.
Yeah.
G
B
C
I
C
F
G
C
G
E
A
I
I
C
C
M
We
do
have
now.
Clarification
is
on
a
three
actually
sorry,
my
bad.
So
this
would
allow
Salt
Lake
City
to
become
the
host
fiscal
agency
responsible
for
receiving
and
managing
all
taskforce
funds,
facilitating
facilitating
the
use
of
the
city
procurement
procurement
policies
and
required
financial
reporting
and
overall
fiscal
accountability.
I
C
I
I
M
We
do
have
an
update
on
that,
and
that
is
that
in
this
staff
report
it
mentions
that
the
RFP
was
issued,
but
there
is
a
correction
that
our
the
RFP
was
not
issued
and
the
administration
intends
to
take
council
feedback
in
the
ideas
and
incorporate
that
into
the
RFP
and
I
believe
Lea
is
here.
Lea
summers
from
the
mayor's
office
is
here
in
case
you
have
specific
questions.
Ok,.
A
M
Let's
see
so
the
request
for
Proposal
RFP
process
I
just
clarified
that
the
RFP
was
not
issued
and
so
I
think
that
question
can
be
laid
to
rest,
the
metrics
for
pilot
program.
The
council
may
wish
to
ask
the
administration
what
success
would
look
like
for
this
new
program
and
what
metrics
could
be
tracked
to
show
progress.
N
N
You
for
that
question,
councilmember
Rogers,
so
this
is
this
request-
is
for
on
one-time
funding.
It's
a
little
bit
strange
because
we're
asking
for
20:19
festival
dollars
to
go
to
the
2019
festival
that
won't
be.
It
won't
happen
until
fiscal
year
20.
So
there
won't
be
a
request
in
the
FY
2010
come
FY
21.
There
will
be
another
request
and
that
will
be
ongoing
with
reports
about
how
this
first
festival
went
after
a
RFP
was
issued
and
we
could
set
some
specific
measures
and
expectations
for
what
happens
within
the
program
and.
N
N
E
Thanks
can
I
actually
go
back
just
a
minute
to
have
Marybeth,
explain
the
funding
again
and
budget
to
me
for.
G
E
G
C
We
saw
a
pullback
in
funding
from
the
administration
for
excellence
in
the
community,
which
does
free
jazz
concerts
year-round
and
then
you
know
there
there's
been
some
budget
amendments
around
that
or
adjustments
from
the
council
end
and
so
I'm
wondering
about
what
data
do
we
have?
Typically,
the
Arts
Council
would
come
to
us
and
say
something
like
here's:
the
spectrum
of
opportunity
for
Arts
and
Culture
investment
in
the
city
for
different
demographics
and
here's.
N
Thank
you
for
that
question,
so
I
think
that
some
larger
planning
is
going
on
currently
within
the
Arts
Council
to
do
a
larger
scale
gap
and
needs
analysis
for
programming
throughout
the
city.
For
this
particular
ask
I
think
there
are
a
couple
of
things
that
can
point
to
the
need,
which
is
there
are
a
number
of,
and
you
mentioned
excellence
in
the
community,
which
is
a
great
program
that
does
offer
free
concerts
that
are
very
family-friendly,
open
to
everybody
and
very
well
attended.
N
Additionally,
we
have
several
jazz
higher
can
higher
education
programs.
The
University
of
Utah
has
a
great
program.
The
Utah
State
University
has
a
jazz
program,
Weber
State,
University
and
Brigham
Young
University
both
have
large
notable
jazz
ensembles
within
their
music
departments
and
with
a
program
that
offers
exposure
and
education
to
youth
in
a
you
know,
and
after
school
or
year-round
setting
that
can
act
as
a
feeder
to
some
of
those
programs,
as
well
as
create
a
little
bit
more
attraction
for
and
I'm
a
little
all
over
the
place
here.
N
But
we're
also
thinking
about
workforce
development
and
offering
more
diverse
programs.
We
get
a
lot
of
feedback
about
from
larger
companies,
about
attracting
talent
to
Salt,
Lake
City
and
there's
a
perception
that
Salt
Lake
City
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
diverse
opportunities
for
diverse
populations
and
so
to
start
to
chip
away
at
that.
In
any
way
that
we
can
is
definitely
a
it's
not
very
important
to
mayor
but
scoopski
and
creating
opportunities
for
everybody
in
the
city.
C
We
support
the
youth
community
and
I
think
this
really
fits
into
the
context
of
that
broader
discussion
of
what
what's
the
community
asking
for
specifically
and
then
there's
this
annual
festival
to
that.
It's
not
really
making
sense
to
me
and
we're
probably
going
to
run
out
of
time
on
this
issue,
because
and
I
need
to
bring
it
to
a
future
discussion,
because
we
do
have
a
time-sensitive
at
five
o'clock,
but
councilmember
Wharton.
You
had
a
something
you
wanted
to
say.
J
C
We'll
have
to
log
questions
and
ask
you
to
come
back
to
us
and
there's
also
the
special
events
permit
fees,
discussion
that
we
said
we
would
address
later
in
the
year,
and
this
would
really
fit
in
very
well
I.
Think
as
we're
looking
at
the
potential
for
a
subsidy
of
event
permitting
fees
which
this
as
an
event,
would
still
have
a
fee
associated
with
it.
Yeah.
J
That
was
my
only
other
addition
is
just
that
we
already
have.
You
know
these
other
great
programs
that
are
coming
to
us
and
saying
that
they're
struggling
like
arts,
festival
and
Pride
Festival,
and
you
know
how
do
we?
How
do
we
do
that
and
make
sure
we
don't
lose
one
of
those
while
also
maintaining
or
bringing
on
something
new
if
we
determine
that
that's
what's
best
so.
B
E
Fowler
I
promise
I'll
only
be
one
minute,
but
just
to
piggyback
on
this
be,
and
something
that
you
said,
madam
chair
was
that
it
feels
like
we're.
Conflating
the
Jazz
Festival
with
this
after-school
program
and
I.
Don't
understand
that
I
everything
you've
said:
Lea
I,
agree
with
and
appreciate
and
want
the
diversity.
You
want
access
in
all
these
different
ways,
but
it
feels
like
we're
somehow
completing
these
two,
and
that
seems
strange
to
me
so
I,
like
this
idea
of
that
Charlie's
come
up
with.
If
it's
feasible
to
say
here's
an
RFQ.
C
M
D
C
C
So
we're
going
to
need
to
slightly
delay
item
three,
our
funding,
our
future
transit
update
for
our
time,
certain
at
five
o'clock
of
the
northwest
quadrant
fact-finding,
an
inland
port
board
general
overview
I
wanted
to
invite
up
Derek
Miller,
who
is
the
inland
port
board
authority,
chairperson
and
Laura
Fritz,
who
is
a
member
of
the
inland
port
board
on
behalf
of
Salt
Lake,
City
and
James
Rogers?
Do
you
want
to
sit
there
because
I
really
wanted
to
make
you
sit
there?
I.
O
O
P
C
Definitely
the
hotter
seat
and
before
we
we
turn
it
over
to
our
esteemed
panel
of
guests
tonight.
This
is
the
first
of
three
fact-finding
nights
that
the
council
will
hold
with
with
somewhat
various
silos
of
interest,
but
not
necessarily
isolated.
So
we
wanted
to
begin
the
discussion
with
you
three
and
invite
the
chair
Miller
mr.
chair
Miller,
to
come
and
give
us
his
vision
of
this
role
and
of
the
port
board
talk
about
whatever
it
is
that
you'd
like
to
actually
for.
C
We
have
60
minutes
on
the
clock,
that's
up
to
you
how
long
we
go
and
hopefully
allow
time
for
questions
and
answer
at
the
end
and
whatever
tag-teaming
needs
to
happen.
As
the
discussion
goes
along,
we
really
appreciate
James
and
Lara
for
being
here
with
us.
So
with
that
Derek
Miller.
Please
kick
us
off.
Thank.
C
P
I,
don't
know
if
you
do
this
here,
but
all
legislative
presentations
start
by
saying
my
name,
I
guess
for
the
record.
I
don't
know
if
you
do
that,
it's
Derek
Miller
go
ahead
in
case
you
want
to
do
here.
Is
the
chair
of
the
inland
port
authority
and
I'm
grateful
to
be
here.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
and
thank
you
for
the
invitation
to
all
the
members
of
the
council
and
thank
you
for
your
interest.
Thank
you
for
your
help
in
getting
us
to
where
we
are
today.
What
I'd
like
to
do
well.
P
First
of
all,
I
promise
that
I'm
not
going
to
speak
for
60
minutes,
so
there'll
be
20
plenty
of
time
for
questions.
But
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
just
give
you
an
update
on
the
work
of
the
board,
what
we've
done
so
far
and
what
direction
we're
headed
in
the
future.
If
that
would
be,
okay,
the
inland
port
authority
board
met
on
July
30th.
P
It
was
our
second
meeting,
but
the
first
one
that
we
were
actually
able
to
conduct
some
business
after
a
false
start
and
as
I
referenced
thanks
to
the
help
of
the
City
Council
and
getting
some
things
back
on
track,
we
were
able
to
meet
officially
for
the
first
time
and
begin
to
self-organize.
We
were
sworn
in
11
members
of
the
board,
three
of
them
that
you
see
here
before
you
today
and
grateful
to
be
able.
I
may
be
I'm,
not
grateful,
but
the
fact
is.
P
Also,
once
we
were
organized
and
had
a
chair
and
a
vice-chair
voted
to
adopt
and
to
put
ourselves
subject
to
the
open
public
meetings
act
of
the
state,
and
we
then
formed
three
committees
that
all
talk
to
you
about
in
just
a
moment,
and
they
were
really
formed
around
the
most
pressing
tasks
that
the
board
felt.
Like
needed
to
be
addressed,
we
also
her
public
comment
at
that
board.
P
Meeting
and
I
want
to
mention
to
you,
I
think
it's
worth
noting
that
the
vast
majority
of
the
public
comments
that
were
offered
expressed
concern
for
the
environmental
impacts
that
the
inland
port
project
might
have
on
the
northwest,
quadrant
and
I'll
address
in
just
a
moment
the
it's
obvious.
Why
I
think
that's
important,
but
I'll
address
in
just
a
moment.
Why
I'm
mentioning
it
here?
The
first
subcommittee
that
was
formed
was
to
search
for
an
executive
director.
P
The
legislation
calls
for
the
hiring
of
an
executive
director.
I
think
this
is
maybe
one
of
the
most
important
tasks
that
lie
before
the
board.
Certainly
it's
the
most
pressing
task
and
I
say
that,
because
I
want
to
draw
attention
to
the
fact
that
all
of
the
board
members
have
other
jobs,
this
is
a
volunteer
part-time
board
that
does
not
minimize
in
any
way
the
importance
of
the
work
that
we
have
before
us,
or
the
responsibilities
that
we
feel
but
I'm
sure.
P
All
of
you,
like
myself,
have
experienced
going
to
meetings
talking
about
very
important
issues,
making
very
important
decisions
and
then
coming
back
at
some
period
in
the
future
and
having
the
exact
same
meeting
and
discussion
and
decisions
again
with
no
work
having
been
done
in
the
meantime.
That's
why
it's
so
important
that
we
hire
this
full-time
executive
director,
whose
day-to-day
job
it
will
be
to
carry
out
those
decisions
based
on
those
discussions.
P
Members
of
this
subcommittee
include
named
as
its
chair
James
Rogers,
Carlos,
braceros,
Michael,
Jensen
and
Greg
Buxton.
The
second
sub
committee
that
was
formed
at
our
board
meeting
was
the
budget
and
business
plan
subcommittee.
The
legislation
provides
for
two
categories
of
funding
to
the
board.
The
first
category
is
four
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
for
an
economic
impact
study
that
would
form
the
basis
of
the
business
plan.
P
F
P
Think
this
is,
as
a
board
I'm
grateful
that
this
council
also
has
community
engagement
efforts
and
I
would
really
I
really
think
it's
important
that
we
align
those
efforts.
I
say
a
line
not
to
indicate
a
duplication
of
efforts,
but
to
make
sure
that
we
continue
this
sort
of
communication.
That's
happening
right
now.
P
The
third
subcommittee
that
was
formed
was
the
tax
differential
or
tax
incremental
financing
tax.
Increment
financing
is
one
of
the
most
important
issues
that
will
be
overseen
by
the
inland
port
board.
It
was
one
of
you
know,
one
of
the
most
controversial
issues
in
forming
the
board
and
how
that
would
be
handled
so
I
want
you
to
know
that
we
take
this
subject
also
very
seriously.
This
will
be
critical
in
attracting
private
capital,
recruiting
businesses
and
putting
in
the
necessary
infrastructure
and
utilities,
as
well
as
not
to
forget
actually
building
the
port.
P
Members
of
this
subcommittee
include,
as
the
chair
been
Hart,
Stewart
claisen,
Nicole,
Caudill,
Fritz
and
Francis
Gibson
I'm,
just
realizing.
Now
that
I
fail
to
mention
to
you,
the
members
of
the
business
and
plant,
the
budget
and
business
plan
subcommittee.
The
memos
members
include
myself:
Ben
Hart,
Laura,
Fritz,
Tudor,
Ogden
and
Francis
Gibson.
P
P
P
The
board
has
also
expressed
interest
in
having
the
consulting
group
that
did
the
feasibility
study
come
and
present
at
one
of
our
public
board.
Meetings
on
the
vision
of
what
an
inland
port
in
this
area
would
look
like.
We
expect
this
meeting
to
be
held
next
Wednesday
at
the
West
Point
Center
of
the
Salt
Lake
Community
College,
as
the
first
of
several
planned
board
meetings
in
the
community.
I
note
that
this
was
at
the
suggestion
of
James
Rodgers,
who,
as
you
know,
represents
this
district.
P
It
represents
the
northwest
quadrant
in
his
district
and
I
would
also
note
that
the
city
county
and
state
staff,
those
that
were
critical
in
bringing
us
from
a
staff
standpoint
where
we
are
today
with
the
inland
port
authority
board
that
they've
also
been
advised
to
participate
and
advised
they've,
also
been
notified
to
participate
in
advise
us
in
this
process
along
the
way.
As
I
mentioned,
I
appreciate
the
council's
desire
to
hold
these
fact-finding
missions
I'm
grateful
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
this
report.
P
The
community
engagement
that
we
have
will
be
extremely
important
and
I'm
using
the
word
engagement
intentionally.
Some
people
talk
about
community
education.
For
me,
that
sounds
like
we
may
be
talking
about
community
indoctrination,
which
is
not
what
we're
talking
about.
It's,
not
our
intent
and
I
know
it's
not
your
intent
either
to
go
out
to
the
community
and
to
convince
them
of
all
the
great
benefits
that
this
project
will
provide,
but
rather
that
we
get
their
input
and
that
it
be
a
two-way
process.
P
I
believe
that
we'll
end
up
with
a
better
product
and
a
better
outcome
at
the
end
of
that
process,
which
is
again
why
I'm
grateful
that
you're
holding
these
meetings
and
why
one
of
the
things
that
I
believe
the
board
needs
to
get
involved
in
sooner
rather
than
later,
is
that
engagement
process.
We
plan
to
hold
our
we
plan
to
hold
one
board
meeting
each
corridor
in
the
community
in
order
to
also
support
that
effort
and
with
that
I'll
conclude
my
remarks.
Q
Actually
dirt
did
an
outstanding
job
in
outlining
the
first
meeting
and
the
subsequent
committees
that
have
been
established.
Those
committees
have
now
all
met
for
the
first
time,
and
there
was
a
much
discussion
about
process
and
protocol,
at
least
in
the
two
committees
that
I
serve
on,
which
is,
as
you've
learned,
the
budget
and
business
plan
and
the
tax
differential
committee.
A
And
then
I
just
want
to
add,
appreciate
Dirk
Miller,
giving
me
credit,
but
this
is
just
part
of
the
process
of
I.
Think
listening
to
the
community
and
the
recommendation
of
having
the
meeting
held
in
the
community
was
brought
forth
by
the
West
Point
community
council,
chair
and
I
brought
that
to
the
board,
so
I
just
want
to
just
show
that
there
are.
There
are
a
lot
of
there's
willingness
on
the
board.
I
mean
there'll.
A
I
know
there
are
a
lot
of
people
that
think
they're,
they're,
they're
dubious
and
that
there's
malfeasance
going
on,
but
there
is,
and
it
is
completely
open
and
transparent.
The
chair
opened
it
up
for
comments
which
wasn't
on
the
agenda
before
for
public
comment.
He
opened
that
up
there
were
people
that
commented
so
I
just
want
to
stress
out
to
the
public
that
this
is
there's
nothing
being
done
behind
closed
doors.
It
is
all
open
and
I'm
more
than
willing
to
talk
about.
A
Our
subcommittee
meeting,
which
is
in,
is
in
charge
of
overseeing
the
hiring
of
the
executive
director
for
the
inland
port.
And
how
do
you
do
that?
So
we
talked
about
that.
How
do
you
figure
out
how
you're
gonna
hire
that
person?
That
was
the
first
question
and
it's
thrown
out
there
that
you've
got
to
have
a
national
firm.
You
gotta
have
several
national
firms
that
are
well
versed
in
transportation
or
in
moving
logistics.
A
That
type
of
thing,
so
we
need
to
have
that
that
national
help
in
researching
also,
we
have
a
great
ally
with
our
Airport
executive
director
he's
got
a
knowledge
of
of
ports
more
than
anyone
else,
probably
in
the
state.
So
he
and
I
had
have
had
an
impromptu
meeting
about
discussions
and
he's
gonna
make
recommendations
that
I'm
gonna
take
to
the
subcommittee
and
take
back
to
the
board
itself.
So
we
have
Salt
Lake,
City
voices
being
heard
and
and
I'm
grateful
for
the
board
because
they're
all
open
to
it.
A
F
F
A
Know
that's
a
great
question
that
we're
gonna
bring
to
the
board
that
we
discussed
in
our
subcommittee
it
the
statute.
The
legislation
says
that
there's
a
deadline
in
November
to
hire
this
individual,
and
that
is
something
that
we
as
a
subcommittee,
don't
think
is
attainable.
So
we're
gonna
go
back
to
the
board,
present
that
and
hopefully
get
approval
that
yeah.
We
need
to
extend
that
because
we
want
to
make
sure
it's
the
right
person
for
the
right
job.
Okay,.
P
Of
the
things
that
the
consultants
noted
in
their
feasibility
study
was
the
importance
of
this
being
a
public-private
partnership
that
it
should
not
all
be
on
the
backs
of
the
taxpayers,
which
I
I
certainly
agree
with,
and
there
is
a
great
a
lot
of
good
models,
a
good
examples
out
there
for
private
funding
of
both
ports
as
well
as
inland
ports.
But
it
takes
putting
a
project
together,
a
prospectus
together
and
it
takes
marketing.
And
so
that's
what
I
meant
by
that
comment.
Great.
F
As
far
as
the
building
of
the
port
itself,
I
realize
that
this
is
such
an
enormous
project
that
it's
really
hard
to
even
articulate
what
that
process
might
look
like,
at
least
from
today's
standpoint.
So
that'll
be
a
follow-up
question,
maybe
down
the
road
that
I'd
love
to
get
some
clarity
on.
But
you
mentioned
Salt
Lake
City's
work
on
our
master
plans,
either
through
the
city
itself
in
the
RDA
and
I.
Wonder
if
you
intend
to
do
any
sort
of
formal
endorsement
or
adoption
of
the
work,
that's
already
been
done
by
Salt
Lake
City.
It.
P
Would
probably
be
out
of
line
for
me
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
board
on
that
subject
because
we
haven't
discussed
it
yet.
So
what
the
comments
that
I
made
in
in
support
and
and
in
compliment
to
the
master
plan
that
was
done
is
based
on
my
own
knowledge
of
the
master
plan
and,
as
I
said,
that
I
believe
that
it
provides
a
good
foundation.
But
I
think
we
need
to
have
that.
P
We
will
have
that
presentation
at
a
board
meeting
by
the
city
on
what
is
included
in
the
master
plan,
I'm
guessing
the
that
it
won't
be
adopted
a
whole
cloth,
because
I
think
there
are
just
some
things
that
will
need
to
be
adjusted
as
a
as
a
function
of
the
matter
of
time
and
as
things
evolve,
I
just
can't
say
one
way
or
the
other
right
now.
Great.
L
L
P
May
be
able
to
address
this
with
more
specificity,
to
the
extent
that
it
that
there
may
be
confidential
information
on
projects
that
both
the
city
and
the
county,
and
maybe
the
state
are
working
on.
But
let
me
just
address
it
conceptually,
and
that
is
this
EDC
Utah,
as
you
know,
is
always
working
at
recruiting
companies.
It's
my
understanding
that
some
of
them
were
looking
at
the
northwest
quadrant
prior
to
this
board
being
created.
It
may
be
even
prior
to
an
inland
port
being
considered
in
this
area.
Q
Council,
member
Johnson,
you
may
remember
that
the
RDA
board
adopted
two
CRA
plans.
One
was
for
the
area
north
of
I-80
for
the
northwest,
quadrant
I
think
the
property
owners
are
very
interested
in
having
a
conversation
with
the
inland
port
board
about
additional
contribution
ii
was
forced
out
and
unfortunately,
with
Slash.
Well,
unfortunately,
they
have
been
kind
of
caught
up
in
the
inland
port
bill,
and
so
there
has
been
no
decision
made
on
their
asked
for
tax
increment,
so
that
might
be
another
project
that
would
come
in
front
of
the
board
again.
Q
In
our
first
meeting
we
really
talked
more
about
process,
because
tax
differential
is
different
from
tax
increment
and
that
tax
increment
has
a
very
specific
process
within
17c
that
we
have
to
follow
and
tax
differential
does
not
have
the
same
process
or
any
process
for
that
matter,
defined
within
code.
So
for
us
that
became
very
important
to
start
to
have
a
conversation
around.
What
would
a
process
look
like
to
bring
the
board
I've.
P
May
I
just
underscore
something
that
Laura
mentioned
I
think
it's.
It's
really
important
at
this
point
not
be
lost,
and
that
is
what
I
fail
to
mention.
But
Laura
did
is
that
the
subcommittee
is
not
discussing
or
making
decisions
on
specific
projects,
but,
as
Laura
said,
the
process
by
which
the
board
would
do
that.
E
Leads
to
another
follow-up
question
to
us:
my
first
one
I'm
since
there,
this
sort
of
looks
like
and
feels
a
little
bit
like
an
RDA,
CRA
type
of
area.
Has
it
the
and
I,
don't
know
what
you
can
and
can't
talk
about,
but
has
the
subcommittee
or
the
members
of
the
board
considered
adopting
a
similar
process
to
17c
as
it?
If
it
does,
if
it's
not
broke,
don't
there's
no
need
to
fix
that
type
of
idea.
I.
E
Then,
after
a
follow
up
question
from
me,
they
made
me
think
of
Derek.
Was
that
so
within
your
subcommittees
I.
Imagine
then
the
this
would
be
to
say
here
what
we
think
should
happen
and
then
it
would
be
adopted
by
the
full
board
make.
L
Second
part,
so
thank
you
for
the
answer
that
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
business
plan,
particularly
as
we've
all
talked
about
this
and
talked
about
it
as
a
foundational
piece
of
this
for
the
next
decades,
the
just
under
half
of
the
the
inland
ports
in
District,
two
in
my
district
south
of
I-80
and
I
support,
James,
Rogers
being
on
the
board
and
he's
been
very
open
and
a
good
representative
of
our
needs
as
well.
I
want
to
reiterate
concerned.
L
Second
concern
below
environmental
impact,
for
the
citizens
in
my
area.
Is
that
we're
surrounded
on
two
sides
by
rail.
The
two
sides
actually
connected
to
the
city
are
separated
by
rail
that
go
north-south
and
east-west
out
to
there
we're
surrounded
on
four
sides
by
state
highways
which
cut
us
off
as
well,
all
of
which
could
be
in
the
years
and
decades
to
come
taxed
by
increased
traffic
which
would
really
harm
the
neighborhoods.
L
So
I
wanted
to
put
it
out
there
as
many
places
as
possible,
that
this
is
a
really
direct
impact
on
quality
of
life
for
folks
and
their
ability
to
get
in
and
out
of
the
city
and
two
jobs
and
anything
else.
So
I
want
to
put
out
there
as
a
as
a
source
of
concern
for
a
lot
of
residents
on
the
west
side
as
well.
Thank
Thank,
You,
councilmember.
J
Hello
thanks
for
coming
so
I,
understand,
I,
think
a
second
to
the
environment.
The
concerns
from
most
of
my
residents
are
about
transparency
and
I.
Understand
that
what
was
report
in
the
paper
about
the
rationale
for
not
wanting
to
be
arbitrary
about
closing
meetings,
but
what
about
like
notice,
requirements
or
subcommittee
meetings?
Will
there
be?
J
Will
they
be
look
the
public
be
given
notice
of
wind
committee
meetings
are
meeting
so
that
they
could
contact
people
that
are
on
the
subcommittee
about
an
issue
that
might
be
discussed
so
so
right,
so
sidestepping
the
arbitrariness
of
closing
meetings.
Could
there
at
least
be
that
notice
period,
I
think.
P
We
were
advised
by
counsel
that
those
subcommittees
were
were
not
subject
to
public
meetings,
and
so
because
of
that
advice
from
Council,
we
did
not
hold
those
subcommittee
meetings
as
open
and
public
meetings.
Now
since
that
time,
since
that
decision
was
made,
question
has
come
up.
Question
has
come
up
from
advocacy
groups
from
the
public
from
the
residents
of
this
area,
as
well
as
through
the
media.
That
should
should
the
board
hold
itself
to
a
higher
standard.
P
Should
it
not
just
do
the
minimum
required
by
the
law,
but
should
it
go
further
than
what
the
law
requires?
I
think
that
that's
a
fair
question
I
think
that
that's
a
good
question
I,
think
that
that's
a
question
that
the
board
needs
to
discuss
and
it's
my
intention
to
raise
that
question
at
our
next
board
meeting
and
have
in
a
public
setting
and
an
opportunity
to
hear
from
the
public
whether
or
not
we
should
hold
ourselves
to
that
higher
standard.
J
Well,
I
would
certainly
encourage
that
and
at
the
very
least
save
it,
and
if
the
meetings
aren't
going
to
be
open,
like
people
need
to
know,
at
least
when
the,
when
the
subcommittees
are
meeting
and
who
is
on
what
subcommittee
and
I
think
it's
an
it's
important
that
people
have
contact
information
for
the
people
on
those
committees
as
well,
because
otherwise,
there's
subcommittees
are
completely
able
to
operate
in
the
dark.
I
think
their
concern
from
residents
is
that
significant
decisions
will
be
made
in
the
subcommittee's
and
then
it
will.
E
Just
wanted
to
say
something
really
quickly
that
I
think,
as
we
all
experienced
together
in
some
way,
the
the
formation
of
the
inland
port.
There
was
certainly
some
trepidation
from
me.
I
was
concerned
about
how
this
was
going
to
work
and
what
was
going
to
work
and
who
was
going
to
be
making
these
decisions
and
then,
as
we
came
together
and
and
sort
of
worked
through
this
bill,
a
little
bit
to
get
the
formation
going.
E
E
I'm
grateful
that
you're
here
today
and
Derek
that
you
took
time
to
come
talk
to
us
today,
because
it
is
important
that
we
as
we've,
worked
for
this
and
important
ways
work
as
we
worked
hard
trying
to
work
together
with
the
state
in
the
county
and
all
of
the
different
entities
that
we
also
feel
connected
to
continue
to
be
connected
to
this,
and
we
can
stay
connected
with
our
constituents.
So
it
really
means
a
lot
to
me
that
you're
here
today
Derek.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
go
to
good
work.
Kids
thank.
P
P
The
answer
to
your
specific
question
is
yes
and
the
answer
to
your
more
general
question
on
what
would
what
would
be
included
in
the
business
plan?
I'd
love
to
defer
that
question
to
Laura,
because
she
had
some
wonderful
thoughts,
very
useful
thoughts
that
she
shared
with
that
subcommittee
and
I.
Think
it'd
be
helpful
for
you
to
hear
them
as
well.
You
remember
what
they
were
mine.
C
Q
No
pressure,
so
the
first
is:
we
need
to
better
understand
the
organizational
structure
of
what
this
board
and
the
ensuing
entity
will
look
like.
That
includes
organizational
documents,
making
sure
that
we
understand
what
the
budget
is,
the
financial
scenarios
all
sort
of
the
organizational
things
we
have
to
do
as
an
entity.
The
second
is
really
the
business
case.
What
are
the
types
of
companies
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
to
recruit?
What
is
the
supply
chain
in
the
northwest
quadrant,
and
how
can
we
supplement
and
aggregate
that?
Q
How
do
we
work
in
global
trade
and
how
do
we
augment
that
for
Salt,
Lake
City,
the
next
big
in
the
state
and
the
next
area
is
really
the
development?
What
are
the
things
that
need
to
happen
to
truly
make
this
an
inland
port?
Is
it
an
intermodal
facility?
Is
it
roads?
Is
it
you
know?
What
are
those
pieces
to
the
puzzle
that
truly
make
this
an
inland
port?
Last
but
not
least,
sustainability.
Q
Second,
to
last
I
lied.
Sustainability
is
a
very
important.
We've
heard
it
from
the
community.
We've
heard
it
from
various
organizations
NGOs,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
work
being
very
mindful
of
incorporating
that
as
part
of
our
business
planning
as
we
did
when
we
did
the
implementation
strategy
in
the
Redevelopment
Agency.
Q
C
C
How
does
that
work
with
the
reality
of
the
time
it
will
take
to
hire
an
executive
director
which
may
or
may
not
coincide
with
going
out
for
bid
for
the
development
of
the
business
plan
and
the
time
it
will
take
to
create
that
and
be
adopted
by
the
board?
How
is
it
that
you
could
contemplate
tax
increment
deals
or
projects
within
the
port
and
with
port
port
tax
increment
dollars
before
you
have
that
business
plan
I.
P
Think
it's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
need
to
be
informed
and
guided
by
the
master
plan
that
the
city
put
together.
I
think
that'll
help
that'll
help
make
that
decision.
It's
hard
for
me,
madam
chair,
to
answer.
I,
recognise
and
agree
with
your
question.
The
concern
you've
expressed
it's
hard
for
me
to
adequately
answer
you
by
telling
you
what
we're
going
to
do
because
I
haven't
yet
received
the
briefing
from
the
from
that
tax,
increment
committee
and
I'm.
C
A
A
A
So,
for
me,
that's
why
it's
so
important
that
we
hire
the
right
person
because
I'm
afraid
that
these
steps
are
going
to
be
continuing
down
the
line
and
as
we
hire
this
individual
they'll,
be
drinking
from
the
fire
hose
right
understanding
what's
going
on
in
the
northwest
quadrant
and
hopefully
be
able
to
be
there
to
help
make
these
decisions
and
guide
that
ship.
So
we
have
that
that
head
of
the
ship
steering
in
I
see.
Q
That,
and
if
you
don't
mind,
councilmember
Rogers
is
right.
This
could
be
a
very
long
process
made
even
longer
by
the
fact
that
there
is
really
no
definition
by
which
we
are
to
collect
or
move
forward
with
creating
tax
differential
areas.
So
there
is
this
whole.
Not
only
are
we
going
to
talk
about
creating
them,
but
ultimately
we
need
to
define
the
process
by
which
they
get
created,
so
it
could
be
a
little
bit
longer
process.
Q
Clearly,
as
a
committee,
we
are
very
mindful
of
the
fact
that
there
is
a
business
that
moved
forward
with
their
location
and
their
operations,
believing
at
the
start
they
were
working
with
Salt,
Lake,
City
and
now
we're
working
with
an
inland
port
board,
and
so
that
is
one
that
we
are
talking
about
at
the
committee
level.
We
don't
have
a
recommendation
to
bring
to
the
board
yet,
but
it
is
something
we're
very
mindful
of
I.
C
Appreciate
that
and
and
I
think
along
those
lines,
my
request
then,
as
as
friendly
as
it's
a
friendly
request,
because
I
have
no
control
over
any
of
this,
but
that
you
make
these
processes
as
transparent
as
possible,
particularly
in
the
consideration
of
projects
prior
to
having
a
business
plan
that,
like
I,
think
as
a
RDA
board
member.
That
gives
me
a
lot
of
pause
to
think
about
committing
tax
increment
dollars
to
to
any
kind
of
a
project
before
we
have
a
CRA
defined
in
a
project
area
plan,
for
example.
C
Thank
you
all
look
forward
to
continued
conversations
and,
as
you
guys
contemplate,
whatever
proposals
may
be
coming
your
way
and
as
a
member
of
the
public
eye,
I
feel
since
your
commitment
from
you
as
the
board
chair
to
have
these
conversations
in
the
public
realm,
and
we
appreciate
axing
entity
I
appreciate
that
also
council
members.
Other
questions
I
remembered
that
I
had
one
more
question
which
was:
has
the
board
engaged
with
Rio
Tinto
in
the
Cole
Mena
group?
C
P
C
Great
council
members
anything
else
on
this,
then
we
thank
you,
Derek
Miller,
for
being
with
us
and
taking
the
time
tonight
and
appreciate
your
open,
your
receptivity,
to
our
desire
to
have
public
conversations
in
alignment
with
the
the
goals
of
the
board
and
share
information.
Certainly,
we
appreciate
Lara
and
James
participation
in
that
and
we'll
look
forward
to
future
conversations.
Thank
you
any
time.
Thank
you,
okay
and
that
didn't
take
as
long
as
you
promised
mr.
Miller.
It
was
not
60
minutes,
and
so
we
can
jump
back
to
the
funding.
C
Our
future
transit
update
conversation,
if
you
don't
mind
and
invite
Russell
weeks
from
the
council
office,
john
larson,
our
transportation
division
director
and
julian
Sabula
from
transit
program
manager
from
the
transportation
division
to
join
us.
Thank
you
and
Russell,
perhaps
will
get
us
started.
K
Number
one
increasing
coverage
for
undeserved
under
served
areas,
particularly
the
west
side,
but
not
include,
but
not
excluding
other
underserved
areas
of
the
city
to
increasing
ridership,
particularly
in
the
city's
downtown
core
and
three
building
out
infrastructure
in
the
transit
master
plan
routes
and
finally,
for
the
budget
and
timeline
would
be
based
on
ten
hundred
north
six
hundred
north
two
hundred
south
nine
hundred
south
and
2100
south
streets.
That's
improving
transit
on
that
four
hundred,
South
Street
would
be
the
last
route
implemented.
That's
what
the
that's!
What
the
council
adopted
when
it
adopted
the
budget.
R
Yes,
we
have
free
from
UTA,
we
have
just
making
sure
there,
so
we
have
Laura
Hansen
who's,
the
playing
director
for
UTA,
and
then
we
have
Nicole
Bordeaux.
Who
is
one
of
the
vice
presidents?
She's
does
government
relations
and
planning
is
under
her
group,
and
then
we
have
Lauren.
Who
does
the
operations?
That
was.
K
R
So
we
sent
a
one-pager
that
should
be
in
your
packet,
looks
something
like
this:
the
outlines
what
we've
been
working
on
with
UTA,
so
really
the
there
there's
a
lot
of
elements
that
we
discussed
that
are
part
of
this.
First
rollout
of
the
transit
master
plan,
implementation
and
the
biggest
and
most
prominent
is
the
increase
in
bus
service
with
UTA.
So
there
is
precedence
nationally
for
a
city
to
do.
R
We've
been
trying
to
do
ours
in
three
months
and
we're
the
only
thing
that
makes
it
possible
for
us
to
be
moving
as
fast
as
we
are
is
I
think
we
have
a
fantastic
relationship
and
UTA
has
been
they've,
been
fantastic
partners
and
we're
grateful
for
that
and
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
them.
Moving
forward,
we've
been
meeting
almost
weekly
with
them,
which,
even
during
you
know
summer
July
is
kind
of
a
challenge.
R
The
the
timing
is
really
quite
challenging
because,
as
you
are
aware,
UTA
is
getting
a
brand
new
board
that
starts
November,
1,
I,
believe,
and
so
ideally
we
would
have
had
at
least
you
know
something
in
place
that
the
outgoing
board
would
be
able
to
even
if
not
fully
adopt.
But
maybe
you
know,
endorse.
R
The
we
still
have
a
tight
time
constraint
for
getting
a
draft
to
have
an
agreement
signed
if
we
are
going
to
roll
out
service
as
anticipated
in
August
of
2019,
because
UTA
they
need
to
order
buses
and
hire
mechanics
and
drivers,
and
that
takes
time
and
really
we
need
to
have
be
able
to
get
something
done
in
time
for
them
to
roll
this
into
their
2019
budget.
So
they
they
have
a
calendar,
your
budget
and
which
further
keeps
things
interesting.
A
R
E
Okay,
I
recently
just
read
an
article
about
the
transit
rideshare
program
that
is
happening
in
other
cities
and
I
got
really
excited
about
it.
It's
like
hey,
wait.
We're
gonna
do
that
here.
So
thanks,
you
guys
for
that,
because
it's
working
out
in
other
cities
and
there's
some
of
the
same
type
of
things
that
we're
trying
to
do
here
and
people
are
kind
of
still
piloting
some
of
these
programs
a
little
bit,
but
I
was
really
excited
to
read
the
article.
So
thanks.
R
R
H
Of
detail,
one
thing
I
think
will
help
us
with
that
is
that
UTA
is
launching
a
core
route
study
and
we
already
know
from
some
of
the
prior
work
five-year
service
plans
and
such
that
the
routes
that
go
outside
of
Salt
Lake
City
that
are
also
extremely
important.
Within
the
city.
We
have
a
ton
of
overlap
with
UTA
plans
and
so
I
think
that
will
help
drive
those
investments.
Really.
The
strong
routes
here
are
strong
routes
all
over
the
place.
Okay,
thanks.
R
Another
example
would
be
that,
as
we
expand
bus
service
like
we're
gonna,
there
will
be
a
need
for
additional
transit
hubs
so
like
in
East,
downtown
transit
hub
and
a
transit
hub
near
North,
temple
and
redwood
road
in
order
to
accommodate
the
increased
number
of
just
the
like
delay
over
and
the
transfers
places
for,
you
know,
breaks
for
the
bus
operators
so
we'll
be
working
closely
with
UTA
on
those.
Those
are
things
that
clearly
benefit
us,
but
that
have
a
regional
service
as
well.
R
So
the
third
point
is
cell
exceeding
youichi
a
wish
to
enable
people
and
businesses
to
rely
on
transit.
So
we
do
that
through
encouraging
permanence
and
stability.
So
that's
a
commitment
from
you
know
both
the
city
and
from
UTA
that
you
know
through
capital
investments
and
then
also
just
a
stated
commitment
that
we're
not
going
to
be
moving
these
routes
around
people.
We
want
people
to
rely
on
them
and
build
their
lifestyle
around
them.
R
R
So
as
we
as
we've
been
having
these
discussions,
you
know
we've
been
saying
you
know
10
20
years
from
now
we
want
the
annual
addendum
to
this
agreement
to
be
a
very
no
drama
exercise
that
you
can
swap
out
people
and
players
and
personalities,
and
it
still
it
just
makes
so
much
sense
that
you
just
keep
doing
it.
So
that's
our
goal,
so
part
of
that
is
simplicity
and
also
just
setting
up
in
a
way
that
feels
very
fair
and
sustained,
financially
and
sustainable,
and
every
other
way
for
both
Salt
Lake,
City
and
UTA.
R
Then
last
point
is
16:
UTA
are
implementing
a
plan
driven
by
data
analysis
and
public
engagement.
Transparency
and
accountability
should
shape
the
execution
of
the
program,
it's
very
critical
that
we're
transparent
with
each
other
and
with
the
public.
So
we're
talking
about
you
know
shared
dashboards
with
data
that
is
updated
as
regularly
as
possible.
That's
feeded
that
you
know
that's
fed
up
into
a
some
sort
of
dashboard
that
we
can
regularly
access.
C
Great
questions
council
members:
well,
we
appreciate
the
very
collaborative
and
quick
work
that's
happening
and
that
there's
a
I
missed
the
beginning
when
I
had
to
step
out
but
I'm
sure
Russell
touched
on
the
time,
sensitivity
for
us
and
getting
these
agreements
in
place
before
we
start
receiving
sales
tax
dollars
which
we're
committed
to
investing
in
this.
So
with
that
council
members,
anything
else
great,
thank
you
to
our
friends
at
UTA
and
everyone
in
hand
who
has
been
helping
on
this
project.
Thank.
C
S
S
C
S
S
We're
gonna
run
through
a
condensed
version
of
what
we
sent
over
as
well,
so
we
don't
take
up
as
much
of
your
time
so
just
to
kind
of
clarify,
but
as
I'm
sure
most
of
you
know,
we
as
the
Salt
Lake
Chamber,
actually
run
the
State
Chamber
organization,
so
all
74
local
chambers
run
up
through
us.
We
have
members
in
all
29
counties
and
represent
over
12,000
businesses.
S
C
S
Either
trying
to
have
that
new
next
step
in
the
housing
market
or
just
getting
into
the
housing
market,
and
so
we
talked
with
Natalie
Gartner
who's,
our
chief
economist
and
also
runs
the
gardener
policy
and
still
up
at
the
U,
and
she
said
you
know
what
we
need
to
do
a
deep
dive
into
this,
and
so
they
took
about
eight
months
and
looked
back
a
generation
which
is
considered
26
years
at
our
current
generation
and
then
projected
forward
a
generation
at
the
housing
market
and
Natalie
coins.
This
as
a
landmark
study
on
housing.
S
So
what
we
found
in
this
study
is
that,
for
the
first
time
in
40
years
we
have
more
households
or
household
formations,
whatever
that
looks
like
to
you
than
housing
units
and
that
gap
right
now
is
about
54,000,
and
so
this
is
really
gonna
be
our
greatest
economic
threat,
and
so
what
we
found
is
that
we're
ranked
fourth
in
the
nation
for
housing
price
increases,
and
at
this
rate,
if
you
take
a
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
dollar
home
in
Utah
in
1991,
that
home
now
costs
three
hundred
and
forty
seven
thousand
we're
at
the
national
growth
rate.
S
S
We
found
that
the
average
price
of
a
home-
and
this
is
the
conservative
number
in
the
report-
will
be
more
than
$100,000
in
the
next
20
26
years
of
unaddressed.
We
also
found
that
the
average
not
average
but
the
first
year
teacher,
both
in
the
Salt
Lake,
Valley
and
Nebo
school
district,
so
Utah
County
can
afford
1%
of
the
housing
market
and
after
teaching
10
years,
they
can
only
afford
16%.
So
our
fear
is
that
we're
pricing
out
our
teachers,
our
nurses,
our
policemen
and
women,
those
that
we
need
in
our
community.
S
So
the
report
tells
us
that,
there's
a
few
reasons
that
these
prices
are
going
up,
one:
the
housing
shortage,
that
we
talked
about:
construction,
labor
costs.
We
have
the
lowest
construction
labor
in
our
state's
history
and
then
with
the
rebuilding
of
the
airport.
That
is
we're
having
to
attract
talent
from
outside
of
the
state
just
for
that
project.
So
we
don't
have
enough
construction
to
fill
the
needs
for
these
housing
land
and
topography.
S
We
work
we're
working
hand-in-hand
with
the
League
of
cities
and
towns,
and
he
says
this
is
an
issue
that
the
business
community
and
local
governments
are
kind
of
ahead
of
and
know
the
general
public
is
behind
so
trying
to
get
them
caught
up
so
that
elected
officials
can
zone
and
do
the
things
that
they
need
to
do
to
address
these
problems
without
fear
of
referendum
or
pushback.
And
then
we
are
leading
the
nation
in
economic
and
population
growth,
which
is
great.
S
It's
2/3
of
that
population
growth
is
internal,
but
it's
putting
that
constraint
on
the
supply
and
demand.
So
what
we
did
is
we
launched
a
housing
gap
coalition
and
that's
chaired
by
Steve,
starts
the
president
of
each
high
jazz
and
Larry
H,
Miller
sports
and
entertainment,
as
well
as
Clint
Betts
from
silicon
slopes,
and
we
found
some
possible
solutions
working
with
Wasatch,
Front,
Regional
Council
on
the
transportation
land
use
connections
program,
the
TLC
having
them
help
align
your
transportation
and
density
and
housing,
because
we're
not
here
to
say
density
needs
to
go
everywhere.
S
This
is
what
we
need
you
to
do.
We
recognize
that
each
community
is
unique
and
needs
to
maintain
that
Salt
Lake
City.
You
are
doing
a
great
job
at
putting
density
where
it
makes
sense
to
address
the
construction
labor
issue.
We
are
partnering
with
the
Ken
Garr
foundation
to
create
a
built,
a
Success
Program,
similar
to
the
co2
success.
A
journeyman
plumber
is
making
six
figures
and
these
are
great
jobs
and
it's
really
to
get
into
the
high
school
and
teaching
students.
S
So
these
are
great
lucrative
careers
that
they
can
go
into
and
hopefully
address,
that
construction
shortage.
We've
partnered
with
the
league
of
cities
and
towns,
Wasatch
Front,
regional
counter,
woth
Delhi
FRC
and
the
county's
Association
to
do
a
public
awareness
campaign,
we're
working
with
y2,
analytics
who's,
doing
a
series
of
interviews
and
survey
to
really
get
the
public
sentiment
about
growth,
because
we
don't
necessarily
believe
that
it's
they're
anti
an
apartment
going
up
next
to
them,
part
of
its
that
but
part
of
its
the
filling
of
congestion
and
that
growth.
S
So
thank
you
and
we're
also
just
asking
to
look
at
zoning
overview,
how
you
can
reutilize
old
commercial
spaces
or
business
parks
and
bring
new
life
to
it
through
multi-use,
or
just
really
planning
ahead
for
this
population
growth
that
is
coming
and
how
we
can
all
work
together
on
a
regional
basis
to
accommodate
it.
But
now
my
question
for
you
is:
what
are
you
feeling?
How
can
the
coalition
help
you?
What
are
you
doing
just
kind
of
have
that
dialogue
right.
L
S
Is
that
the
land
that's
left
to
develop
is
definitely
not
the
best.
The
the
best
land
was
not
safe
for
last,
so
we
recognize
that
some
of
these
developments
will
cost
more
as
you
try
to
play
on
your
infrastructure,
your
water,
all
of
that-
and
so
it's
not
necessarily
we're
not
going
out
and
saying
everyone
needs
to
lower
their
fees.
This
is
what
we
need
you
to
do,
just
making
sure
some
cities
have
an
overarching.
S
L
S
L
We
can't
touch
the
need
well,
I.
Could
we
touched
the
need
we're
not
quite
I
mean
we
struggled
to
keep
up
on
our
work
from
the
city
and
and
where
were
Salt
Lake
City
were
huge
compared
to
other
cities
right,
correct,
I
can't
imagine,
there's
a
city
in
the
state
that
has
enough
resources
to
do
the
massive
amount
of
zoning
and
planning
work.
That's
going
to
require
for
some
of
this
stuff.
L
So
that's
the
sort
of
predicament
that
a
lot
of
cities
run
into
lawyer
fees
for
the
developers
who
say
that's
a
problem,
but
they
can
get
done
with
everything
quicker
finish.
My
application
quicker
do
my
pruning
permitting
quicker
all
those
kind
of
things,
and
so
I
would
request
sort
of
that
discussion
to
move
forward
a
little
bit
as
well.
There
you're
putting
some
cities
in
a
real
dilemma.
I
can't
do
both
of
these.
L
S
We're
not
going
forward
with
that.
That's
after
that
meeting
we
partnered
with
y2
analytics
they're
running
their
focus
groups
right
now,
I
think
until
the
end
of
next
week,
and
we
should
have
that
data
by
the
first
week
of
September
ready
to
launch
second
week
of
September
based
on
that
information.
So
it's
still
in
the
process,
but
yeah
the
class
they're
phobic
teeny
house
we
decided
was
not
the
route
we
wanted.
Thank.
L
S
L
Last
thing-
and
you
don't
have
to
answer
this
I'm
going
to
put
it
out,
there's
a
question:
maybe
you
can
take
back
I've
been
to
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
meetings
on
this
and
I
have
heard
no
one.
Well,
one
person
brought
up
wage
stagnation
and
I
was
hoping
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
or
at
least
say
something
about
it.
L
Housing
prices
have
escalated,
much
quicker
than
anything
else.
I
get
that,
but
wages
have
not
escalated
in
any
way,
even
in
a
tight
labor
market
and
I'd
love
to
hear
at
least
some
acknowledgement
of
that
back
or
some
discussion
of
that
piece.
Otherwise,
we're
on
an
it's
a
losing
trajectory
for
all
of
us.
We
can't
possibly
pay
for
housing.
L
F
S
C
Say
a
second
to
councilmember
Johnson's
comments
in
particular
Salt
Lake
City.
We
do
wave
impact
fees
for
affordable
housing
projects
and
the
permitting
fees
are
cost
justified
fees,
as
as
he
was
saying
it.
Those
are
not.
You
said
to
be
that
US
cities
to
be
fair.
That's
a
cost
justification
process
that
really
isn't
about
profit,
it's
about
covering
the
expense
of
having
individuals
that
at
a
permit,
encounter
and
review
applications
and
things
so
I
think
it
there.
C
It
feels
like
there's
a
bit
of
conflation
between
the
need
for
housing
and
the
need
for
affordable
housing,
because
we
we
do
make
an
incredible
amount
of
financial
commitment.
This
body
has
made
an
incredible
financial
commitment
to
affordable
housing,
particularly
in
the
last
year
and
a
half
or
two
years,
and
we
have
a
rate
according
to
James
Woods
work
at
the
policy
institute
at
four
times.
The
next
municipality
in
terms
of
multifamily
home
development,
here
in
Salt,
Lake,
City,
so
I
I
think
I'm.
C
My
concern
is
that,
as
this
housing
gap,
Coalition
is
an
iteration
out
of
the
chamber,
which
has
an
incredible
business
presence
that
there
may
be
legislation
to
come
yet
to
come.
That
asks
cities
to
or
requires
cities
to
lose
our
cost
justified
reimbursement
for
the
the
real
costs
it
takes
the
city
to
process
applications
and
undercut
all
other
forms
of
business.
C
Therefore,
that
have
to
come
through
that
same
permitting
line,
because
we
don't
have
enough
people
to
pay
to
take
care
of
permitting
process
so
I'm
afraid
if
we,
if
we
support
Housing
Development,
even
non
affordable
housing
development,
we
end
up
harming
all
other
forms
of
business
in
our
economy,
who
need
to
go
through
those
same
processes.
So
I
did
in
the
longer
presentation,
I
and
nor
in
the
PAC
and
the
paper
or
the
white
paper,
which
I
have
had
a
chance
to
read
when
it
was
presented
a
few
months
ago.
C
I,
don't
remember
it
going
into
that
kind
of
analysis.
If
we
pull
this
thread
here,
certainly
there's
a
tug
somewhere
else
in
the
ecosystem
of
any
city.
So
it's
a
long
way
to
say:
if
you
get
to
a
point
of
approaching
legislative
conversations,
please
dig
deeper
into
where
these
adjustments
end
up
harming
municipal
economies
in
the
statewide
economy
and
perhaps
not
necessarily
creating
more
affordable
housing.
Just
more
housing
and.
L
Then
I'm
sure
that's
an
important
piece
that
this
is
a
housing
gap
and
so
it
usually
that's
being
conflated
as
housing,
affordability
above
40
percent-
am
I
sort
of
total,
but
that
has
almost
nothing
to
do
with
the
affordable
housing
below
4%
ami
and
some
of
the
discussions
have
been
that
if
we
did
some
of
these
things,
recommendations
such
as
we
decrease
some
building
costs,
we
decrease
the
overhead
from
fees
and
things
from
cities.
We
did
some
things
like
this.
It
would
help
affordable
housing.
I.
L
Don't
think,
there's
any
basis
to
believe
that,
though
I
think
would
help
housing
period
in
the
total
stock,
and
maybe
that
helps
long
term
in
years
and
years
to
come
for
a
lot
of
reasons.
I
agree
with
that,
but
it
doesn't
do
anything
for
affordable
housing,
because
the
subsidy
required
far
outstrips
anything
you're
gonna
get
its
cost
things
that
way,
and
so
very
different
populations.
L
S
On
your
point
on
legislation,
that's
that's
why
we
want
to
be
here
and
meet
with.
Cities
is
because
we
want
to
work
together
to
address
that
I.
Don't
know,
I
guess
what
California
is
always
in
session,
but
they
passed
SB
35,
which
takes
all
land-use
authority
away
from
local
governments,
and
that
is
the
point
that
we're
not
advocating
for
that's.
Why
we're
hoping
to
partner
with
cities
and
work
together
and
find
solutions
and
to
keep
each
city
unique
in
to
allow
cities
to
govern
how
they
want
to
look?
C
You
we
appreciate
that
very
much
council
members
anything
else
before
we
let
brain
go
home
and
have
dinner
and
council
members
in
a
minute.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
for
being
with
us
and
that
takes
us
to
our
last
agenda.
Item
councilmembers
I
have
to
say
I'm,
sorry
that
we've
gone
so
long
without
a
break
charlie
everybody
else.
Please
take
a
break.
If
you
need
one
I'm,
sorry,
we
had
that
time-sensitive
one
and
then
so.
Let's
get
this
done.
Small
cell
wireless
facilities,
follow-up
item,
six
Kiera
Luke
from
our
council
office.
C
Thank
you
for
being
with
us.
I
know:
Kimberly
trecherous
from
the
attorney's
office
is
here:
danrip
our
real
property
manager
and
Melissa
Jensen
from
housing
and
Neighborhood
Development,
and
we
we
had
a
email
yesterday
from
been
lucky
in
council
office
that
I'm
not
sure
our
packets
are
updated,
but
it
had
the
design
guidelines.
J
J
So
let
me
orient
us
real
quickly
and
I
think
we'll
get
to
there.
So
this
is
the
second
briefing
the
council
is
concealed
to
have
a
second
public
hearing
and
consider
voting
on
this.
This
evening,
we,
the
council,
chose
to
have
a
second
public
hearing,
because
we
hadn't
seen
the
design
guidelines.
At
the
time
of
the
last
public
hearing,
we
received
a
draft
copy
of
the
most
up-to-date
design
guidelines
in
time
for
packets
last
Thursday,
so
that
should
be
the
most
recent
copy
that
we've
been
provided.
J
J
J
There's
a
policy
question
at
the
top
of
the
staff
report
for
the
council
to
bear
in
mind
during
the
presentation
of
whether
they
would
prefer
to
formally
adopt
the
design
guidelines
or
defer
that
to
the
administration
to
update
and
maintain,
and
then
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Dan
and
Melissa
to
present
on
the
design
guidelines
and
orient
you
to
the
work
that
they've
done
so
far.
Thanks,
Kyra
thanks.
O
The
best
of
all
the
game,
I,
guess
right
last
the
agenda,
but
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
few
minutes
and
just
do
a
really
high-level
review
of
our
small
sail
design
guideline
or
excuse
me
design
standard
that
we
have
prepared
and
just
give
you
some.
You
know
some
idea
of
what
that
is
and
what
the
guidelines
are
gonna
look
like
and
if
there
are
any
details
that
you
want
to
know,
please
feel
free
to
stop
me
anytime
and
ask
those
questions.
So
our
main
goal
for
the
manual
is
to
maintain
the
existing
city
aesthetic.
O
O
The
design
standard
manual
was
a
really
complex
process,
because
it
was
a
very
complex
concept
and
we
put
together
a
technic
made
up
of
professionals
from
the
city
who
are
experts
in
in
those
technical
fields,
and
each
of
them
took
their
respective
area
of
expertise
and
wrote
around
that
for
us,
and
then
they
submitted
it
to
us.
The
version
that
you
receive
last
Thursday
has
actually
evolved
since
then,
as
is
constantly
being
refined.
So
we
see
this
as
being
a
living
document.
O
There
are
five
different
attachment
types:
utility,
poles,
streetlights,
mono,
poles,
traffic
signals
and
kiosk
and
street
signs
and
I
just
going
to
go
through
each
one
really
quickly.
First,
one
is
the
utility
poles,
our
preference
is
for
the
antenna
to
be
located
on
the
top
of
the
pole
and
I
tried
to
get
some
pictures.
O
C
O
O
Would
be
an
example
of
one
that's
not
in
our
city,
but
that
would
probably
not
match.
So
if
you
look
at
South
temple
down
right
in
front
of
the
Joseph
Smith,
building
UTA
did
a
really
good
job
with
putting
their
electrical
poles
to
run
the
tracks
that
match
all
of
our
decorative
light
poles,
so
they're
black,
they're,
fluted
and
and
you'll
see
those
that
are
aligning
the
right-of-way
there.
Imagine
that
as
a
sort
of
monopole
that
would
we
would
require
in
our
right-of-way
to
match
the
surrounding
poles.
O
Q
L
O
L
My
question,
but
might
go
back
to
that
previous
one.
There
are
two
back
I
guess
now,
yeah
theoretically,
if
they're
the
same
color
the
same
sort
of
idea
they
match,
but
would
have
been
better
to
have
it
on
the
light
pulled
it's
sitting
there
versus
a
monopole
10
feet
away.
That's
sort
of
my
question,
I!
Guess
right
when
we
made
the
decision
process,
it's
the
holder
about.
Do
you
compromise
the
decorative
pole,
but
does
it
compromise
that
by
having
a
next
door
anyway,
so
and.
O
Okay
and
then
next
are
traffic
signals
and
really
the
the
main
emphasis
on
this
is
that
we
don't
want
to
compromise
the
structural
integrity
of
the
existing
traffic
signal
and
there
won't
be
any
attachments
allowed
on
the
mast
arm
so
that
we
don't
have
any
distractions
to
drivers
and
we
do
not
allow
radios
or
meters
to
be
attached
to
the
poles.
So
this
is
another
situation
where
we're
gonna
have
to
manage
utility
boxes
in
the
right-of-way
next
to
the
poles
and
then
finally,
we
have
our
kiosks
and
other
attachments.
O
It
was
going
to
consist
of
an
antenna
and,
as
you
saw
in
some
of
the
pictures,
the
can
Tana
is
the
can
or
the
shrouding
that
goes
around
the
actual
antenna.
There's
gonna
be
conduit
that
runs
underneath
the
sidewalks
and
in
the
right-of-way
that's
going
to
send
fiber
to
the
antennas,
there's
going
to
be
a
meter
and
a
power
box,
as
well
as
a
radio
box
attached
the
polls
where
they're
allowed
and
in
other
instances,
they'll
be
in
the
right-of-way.
So
our
timeline
is,
is
that
you
know.
O
After
tonight
a
narc
said
the
extended
public
hearing
as
City
Council
moves
to
adopt
the
small-cell
ordinance.
We
would
be
moving
forward
to
completing
the
design
standard
manual
and
have
that
available
by
the
end
of
August,
and
then
we
would
begin
our
our
public
outreach
strategy
by
distributing
information
to
the
public
as
to
what's
coming,
there's
going
to
be
some
construction
noticing,
as
required
in
there
building
permits,
and
we
anticipate
issuing
permits,
beginning
on
September,
1st,
so
I
think
we're
really
close
to
the
finish
line.
C
Okay,
councilmembers
questions
I
want
to
say
that
I
think
Dan
and
Kimberly
you've
done
an
incredible
job.
You
I
really
feel
like
you,
get
our
concerns
here
and
and
then
have
a
much
better
understanding
of
the
statute
landscape.
Then
we've
been
able
to
receive
in
the
briefings.
We've
had
so
I'm
comfortable
with
us
moving
ahead
personally
I'm
comfortable
with
us
moving
ahead
with
this
tonight
to
see
that
you're
going
to
be
completing
the
manual
and
Linux
by
the
end
of
August.
That's
you
know
12
days
away,
so
it's
a
lot
of
work.
O
N
C
H
Yes,
yes,
yes,
just
to
take,
hear
his
question
at
the
beginning
of
the
briefing.
Does
the
council
is
the
council,
okay,
with
the
administration
having
this
as
sort
of
a
living
document?
That's
not
each
time
it's
updated,
adopted
by
ordinance,
or
does
the
council
want
to
adopt
at
each
time
by
ordinance.
C
H
Report
the
first
is:
the
council
will
remember
that
the
council
appropriated
some
money
to
the
council
office
budget
for
a
legislative
lobbyist.
If
the
council
members
have
any
suggestions
about
names
to
put
on
a
potential
list
for
candidates,
please
send
them
to
council
staff
so
that
we
can
start
compiling
that
council
staff.
So
me
right
now,
but
Cindy
when
she's
back.
So
just
let
me
know
and
then
we'll
have
a
list
together
in
the
moment
we
can
review
it
all
together:
okay,
okay,
then.
H
The
next
is
the
Utah
League
of
cities
and
towns
as
asking
for
anyone
who's
interested
in
serving
on
the
nominations
committee
to
be
on
the
utah
league
of
cities
and
towns,
board
of
directors.
Councilmember
Johnston
has
volunteered
that
he
could
serve
on
that
committee,
but
we
wanted
to
run
it
by
the
board
or
run
by
the
full
council.