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A
A
B
C
A
D
And
that
is
in
regards
to
the
sales
tax
is
looking
at
an
ordinance
or
something
colleagues
for
support
in
that.
If
the
sales
tax
ever
does
go
above
that
threshold
of
33
million
whatever
it
is
for
that
half
percent
that
we
allocate
that
money
to
one
of
the
four
silos
to
be
decided
by
the
council,
meaning.
D
E
E
E
G
E
D
A
E
So
I
have
Lisa
packwood
and
John
Pike
Lisa's
going
to
go
over
the
revenues.
These
are
general
fund
revenues
only.
These
do
not
include
the
25
million
dollars
sales
tax
or
any
enterprise
or
internal
service
fund
revenues.
We
we
are
purposely
left
out
the
25
million
dollars,
because
you
already
know
that
it's
25
million
dollars
I
don't
need
to
go
into
the
detail
on
that
as.
A
This
is
our
first
real
bite
into
the
budget
book.
I
know
that
and
I
appreciate
that
you
have
slide
presentations,
but
council
members
have
got
their
budget
books
out
and
if
it's
possible
to
orient
us
to
page
numbers
or
anything,
so
we
can
work
out
of
here
more
it's
easier
for
us
to
keep
track
of
this
than
a
bunch
of
separate
packets.
That
would
it's
helpful
if
you
can,
but
I
just
put
you
on
the
spot.
You
did,
but
that's
okay,
I'll
get
you.
H
So
I'm
just
going
to
hit
on
some
of
the
highlights
of
the
major
revenue
categories
as
we
go
through
here,
the
first
one
will
be
our
property
taxes.
This
is
a
graph
showing
you
know
some
of
the
history
of
property
tax
revenues
budget
to
actuals
this
year
in
2018
property
tax
revenue
is
coming
in
just
slightly
over
budget
by
about
four
hundred
and
sixty
nine
thousand
dollars,
and
that
is
due
to
a
personal
property.
H
Real
property
is
down
and
we
are
researching
that
we
believe
that
it
may
have
to
do
with
the
collection
of
centrally
assessed.
So
we
are
working
with
the
with
the
county
and
with
the
state
to
try
and
resolve
that
question.
The
budget
for
FY
19
for
all
the
property
tax
types
is
a
hundred
and
three
million
dollars,
one
hundred
and
three
395.
This
includes
the
judgment
levy
and
some
new
growth
of
1.3
million.
H
Regarding
sales,
tax
receipts,
this
is
just
sales
tax
doesn't
include
any
use.
Oh
I'm,
sorry
I
forgot
I
added
these
for
your
viewing
pleasure.
These
are
some
of
the
residential
and
commercial
property
values
by
district,
so
that
you
can
see
the
changes
that
are
happening
in
there,
so
that
one's
the
residential
property
by
district
and
then,
if
you'll,
move
to
that
next,
when
it's
the
commercial
properties.
A
E
So
note
that
these
are
only
for
calendar
year
2017
we
haven't
received
calendar
year,
2018
we'll
receive
those
about
the
same
time
we
receive
the
property
tax
information
for
values
and
then
we'll
update
this
information.
We
used
to
have
this
information
on
GIS
I'm,
hoping
to
get
it
back
on
GIS
and
make
it
live
so
that
you
guys
can
review
it
and
see
the
percentage,
differences
and
changes
in
values
going
forward.
The.
C
A
Had
a
question
on
the
commercial
side,
we
have
heard
that
third
west
is
our
second
highest
sales
tax
generating.
Is
that
correct
me
from
wrong
area
of
the
city
outside
of
the
CBD
and
I
know?
This
is
this?
Is
property
value
and
not
sales
tax
generation,
but
I
think
that's
to
look
at
District
five
down
there
at
the
bottom
and
to
think
about
the
fact
I
mean
this.
This,
for
me
emphasizes
the
RDA
project
area
that
we're
about
to
create
that
the
property
they
produced.
A
A
D
E
A
J
H
Okay,
so
moving
on
to
sales
tax
sales
tax
this
year
in
FY,
18
is
expected
to
come
in
at
about
1.8
million
dollars
over
budget,
so
we've
taken
that
same
percentage
and
increased
the
FY
19
budget.
It's
about
three
point!
Well,
it's
about
five
point.
Eight
percent
increase
so
we're
expecting
that
current
trend
to
continue.
That's
a
really
good
point,
though,
to
see
those
same
numbers
by
district.
So
we
didn't
do
that
here,
but
we
can
certainly
do
that
for
you
I.
E
No,
it's
growing
faster
than
what
we
we
can't
keep
up
with
when
we
project
it.
We
always
think
we're
gonna
hit
the
mark,
like
last
year,
I
put
in
a
significant
increase
in
sales
tax
and
thought.
Oh
we're
gonna
come
in
right
at
budget
and
we're
not
work
seating
budget,
which
is
good
right,
but
so
then
we
put
in
another
large
increase
this
year.
Hopefully
we
will
meet
that
mark,
it's
just
it's
always
increasing
higher
than
last
year.
Our
increase
was
about
three
and
a
half
percent.
Okay,.
G
E
E
Yeah
much
much
faster,
so
during
the
recession
we
dropped,
it
took
us
six
years
to
come
out
of
the
hole
to
bring
us
back
up
to
where
2007
numbers
were
in
2007.
It
was
47
million
dollars.
It
took
us
five
years
to
come
back
up
to
that
forty-seven
million
dollars
and
now
we're
gonna
be
about
sixty
million.
What.
A
That
point:
will
you
go
back
a
slide?
John
I
wondered
if
you
could
come
back
to
us
with
maybe
a
15
year
timeline
and
listening
to
we've
had
several
opportunities
in
the
last
little
while
to
join
the
gardener,
Policy
Institute
and
some
of
their
discussions
around
forecasts
and
housing
and
the
reality
of
sort
of
a
seven-year
cycle
coming
upon
us
I'm
wondering
if
we
stretch
this
out
what
we
see
recognizing
that
the
2008
recession
isn't
necessarily
hopefully
on
that
short
cycle.
But
could
you
stretch
that
out
and
come
back
to
us?
Oh
yeah,
we.
A
H
So,
to
give
you
an
idea
of
where
the
sales
tax
is
coming
from
which
areas
retail
trade
is
obviously
the
biggest
area,
it
is
about
41
percent
of
the
total
sales
tax
receipts.
That
number
does
include
vehicle
sales
and-and-and
vehicle
parts,
so
it
does
inflate
it
a
little
bit.
The
next
area
is
accommodation
and
food
service,
and
then
wholesale
trade
and
those
three
make
up
about
69
percent
of
the
total
sales
tax.
So.
E
These
these
are
different,
then,
we've
shown
in
the
past.
In
the
past,
we've
shown
eating
and
dining
or
eating
and
drinking
motor
vehicle
retail
sales.
We
have
changed
the
way
that
we
are
looking
at
sales
tax
based
on
the
tax
commission
was
really
hard.
We
had
a
huge
pot
of
non
allocated
funds,
so
we
are
trying
to
get
better
at
those
funds
not
being
non
allocated
and
being
allocated
in
categories.
In
order
to
do
that,
we
had
to
change
the
way
that
we
allocated.
So
that's
why
these
numbers
are
different.
H
We've
put
together
just
a
few
visuals
to
show
you
the
percentage
change
in
these
in
these
major
areas
in
retail
trade.
This
is
your
your
month
over
a
month.
Percentage
change,
so
you
know
anything
above
zero
is
obviously
an
increase
in
it.
So,
even
though
it
might
look
like
it's
trending
down,
that's
actually
showing
you
a
3.9
percent
increase
over
this
time.
Last
year,.
H
E
Hard
to
put
to
get
a
handle
on
internet
sales
tech,
since
it's
not
reported
to
us
and
the
only
the
only
one
that
is
Amazon
at
this
point.
It's
hard
to
get
and-
and
you
know
we
always
have
to
be
very
cognizant
of
proprietary
information.
It's
one
of
the
reasons
that
you
know
we
can
do
things
by
district.
We
can
do
things
by
block.
E
We
can
do
things
percentage
of
change,
but
we
don't
do
Costco
compared
to
Sam's
Club
right
I
would
I
would
never
even
give
you
a
percentage
of
change
Costco
compared
to
Sam's
Club,
because
it's
proprietary
information.
We
have
to
be
very
cognitive
that-
and
it's
just
a
hard
number
to
to
attain.
Since
we
don't
know
what
they're,
what
they're
out
there
mm-hmm.
A
H
So
similar
graph,
this
one
shows
the
percent
of
change
in
accommodations
in
foodservice.
This
is
reflecting
a
7.6
percent
increase
over
this
time
last
year,
and
just
so
you
know
about
7071
percent
of
this
is
actually
eating
and
drinking
establishments.
So
that's
the
biggest
portion
of
it
is
actual
dining
and
drinking.
H
H
H
H
They
do
expect
to
fill
those
positions
and
be
fully
staffed
next
year,
so
we're
we're
hoping
that
their
budget
will
come
in
a
little
better
next
year
for
next
year.
The
budget
is
three
point:
seven,
nine
million,
a
reduction
of
about
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
again
hoping
that
they'll
be
fully
staffed
next
year
and
issuing
tickets
like
usual,
but.
H
D
F
H
Know
what
I
think
happens
is
there
is
a
bit
of
a
delay
right
between
ticket
issuance
and
then
collections,
but
I
think
we
have
a
full
staff
of
collections,
people
who
are
always
working
on
this
as
well.
So,
even
though
the
issuance
may
be
down,
there
are
still
people
who
are
working
on
collecting
on
a
maxed
out
ticket.
The.
L
L
G
L
G
E
A
L
E
Years,
at
least,
if
you
went
back
further
than
2014,
you
would
see
the
number
of
tickets
up
significantly
we've
just
you
know
you,
we
got
Isaac
in
there.
He
did
a
great
job.
We
started
getting
some
decent
tickets,
he
left
I
mean
they
they've.
Just
had
some
issues
right
director
leaves
hire.
Another
director
doesn't
work
out
compliance
staff.
Is
you
know
diminished
by
eight
now
they
can't
seem
to
get
them
hired.
So.
K
H
M
L
F
A
I'm
so
glad
you
brought
that
up
councilmember
Fowler,
because
we
have
memo
from
wind
pace
that
I'm
looking
for
here.
It
is,
and
I
wondered
if
these
are,
which
is
a
articulation
of
all
the
apparently
I'm
missing
the
first
page,
all
the
bills
from
2018
with
fiscal
impacts
to
the
city.
It's
like
six
pages
long
or
something
and
I
wondered
if
those.
If
these
are
taken
into
account
in
our
projections,
they.
E
Are
have
new
projections,
they
are
I.
You
know,
I
will
point
to
HB
336.
It's
a
concern
of
the
administration's
that
one
won't
go
into
effect
until
July
of
2019.
So
we
will
look
at
that
one.
There
are
a
few
that
won't
go
into
effect,
till
July
of
nineteen
to
live
2020.
Most
of
those
are
revenue
affecting
so
we'll
have
to
deal
with
that
in
next
budget
cycle,
but
the
ones
that
effect
this
year
we
have
just
like
the
154
for
parking
tickets
that
one
we
have
made
an
adjustment
inside
the
budget
that.
A
Is
quick
work
I,
really
appreciate
that
that's
fantastically
sensitive,
I
think
to
councilmember
Wharton's
point:
can
we
just
be
much
more
conservative
in
our
parking
ticket
revenue
projections,
even
with
the
hopeful
hiring
back
of
the
staff?
Let's
discontinue
this
separation
between
projected
and
actual,
and
so,
if
we
did,
how
do
we?
How
do
you
suggest
then
aligning
is
the
projection
we're
looking
at
here.
A
A
E
M
E
H
So
you
know,
though,
the
Justice
Court
never
charged
more
than
25%
for
late
fees,
so
on
SB
336
that
doesn't
it
didn't
really
it
they
don't
feel
it's
really
gonna
affect
them.
It'll
affect
their
collection
agency.
The
OSD
see
they'll,
probably
take
a
revenue
hit
for
that,
but
it
certainly
does
affect
civil
citations.
E
H
H
H
The
other
thing
it's
a
small
amount,
but
just
wanted
to
point
it
out
to
you,
because
you'll
be
receiving
an
ordinance
for
new
solar
panel
fees
on
the
CFS.
Previously
we
based
this
solar
panel
fee
as
it
was
a
permit
and
was
based
on
project
value.
So
we
did
a
cost
analysis
and
have
changed
the
way
we
charge
for
those
it's
now
based
on
the
kilowatts
generated
by
the
by
the
panel's.
So
it
was
a
revenue
source
of
about
four
hundred
and
eighty
seven
thousand.
H
C
A
G
A
A
I
just
want
to
note
from
my
peers
that
I
want
us
to
have
it
I
hope
we
have
a
discussion
about
this,
a
robust
discussion
because
I'm
not
I'm,
not
against
it
at
this
point,
but
I
think
we
need
to
talk
about
this
with
their
state
statute
that
we
just
dug
into
and
our
meeting
a
couple
hours
ago,
around
minimum
allocations
for
housing
and
how
we've
Mack
we've
gone
above
and
beyond.
In
some
cases
for
some
areas
going
up
to
20%
allocation,
so
I
think
there's
a.
M
M
It
seems
big,
but
maybe
it's
somewhere
out
there
and
I
just
haven't
gotten
to
that
point
in
the
budget
book
yet,
but
I
agree
that
some
of
this
needs
I
need
more
clarification
on
this
and
and
that
discussion
and
to
go
along
with
it
more
probably
for
next
year
policy
of
these.
If
we
did
a
one-time
transfer
last
year
from
RDA
and
a
one-time
transfer
this
year
from
RDA,
are
we
going
to
expect
a
one-time
transfer
next
year
from
RDA
and
what's
the
policy
around
all
of
that,
so.
E
And
and
when
we
tied,
we
tied
it
to
specific
expenditure
line
items
so
RDA
this
money
was
tied,
it's
actually
1.2
million
dollars
of
revenue.
The
other
amount
is
for
staffing,
so
197
197,000
for
staffing,
1.2
million
of
it
is
for
homeless
services,
and
we
actually
identified
specifically
all
of
the
information
in
kin
and
how
it
relates
to
RDA
great
thanks.
G
G
From
RDA
before
general
fund
did
dirty
money
go
into
general
fund
and
general
fund
was
allocated
to
these
services
right,
accurate,
that's
correct
for
the
2.4
say
from
last
year.
This
can
do
this
year.
Part
of
that
from
RDA
owes
transferred
correct,
okay
right,
so
2.4
is
probably
the
total
amount,
but
part
of
it
came
from
already
correct.
G
C
Think
the
caution
you
know
to
put
it
out
there
is
the
operation
Rio
Grande,
while
intended
to
be
a
one-time
exercise,
is,
is
continuing
and
continuing
for
good
reason,
and
so
I
think
that
it's
not
easy
to
say
that
there
will
be
a
hard
and
to
operation.
Rio
Grande
come
June
30th
of
this
next
fiscal
year,
and
so
just
knowing
that
that's
out
there
as
a
potential
need
to
continue
some
of
those
services,
you
know,
might
not
be
totally
wrapped
up
by
then
yeah.
G
I
think
that
the
policy
discussion
for
me
is
that,
if
it's
identified
as
one
time
in
the
budget,
it's
helpful
to
know
that,
so
that
we
can
be
clear
and
how
we're
doing
this
but
I
think
going
forward.
If
we
do
intend
to
continue
to
do
some
homeless
services
from
this
budget,
we
do
need
a
different
way
to
do
it.
That's
where
I'm
advocating
for
the
CDBG
year
ESG
sort
of
model
and
how
we
do
that
so
I'm.
H
So,
just
a
few
more
notable
changes
these
will
be
listed
on
the
key
changes,
so
you
can
refer
to
them,
but,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
previous
slide,
we
we
did
put
a
3.8
million
dollar
increase
for
sales
tax
in
the
budget.
There
is
an
increase
to
our
admin
fees.
This
is
mostly
due
to
salary
adjustments
and
also
we
try
to
recoup
our
costs
of
those.
H
H
It's
a
1.6
million
dollar
decrease
and
we're
responding
to
what
we're
seeing
as
a
trend,
actually
a
nationwide
trend
for
this.
For
this
tax.
We
continue
to
study
it,
we're
not
exactly
sure
what's
causing
it,
although
you
know
there
the
way
the
cellphone
companies
are
charging
for
data
and
for
phones
now
it's
you
know:
they've
really
changed
that
so
we're
continuing
to
watch
that,
but
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
decrease
to
you.
H
E
E
Bond
will
be
going
away,
those
bonds,
we're
gonna,
actually
redo
those
bonds
in
the
next
year
or
two,
so
that
revenue
will
be
going
away
it.
It
is
collections.
Revenue
is
in
miscellaneous
revenues
it.
It
could
be
it's
anything
besides
your
taxes,
your
fees
and
your
charges
for
services,
so
anything
else
that
you
can
possibly
think
of
that
doesn't
include
in
charges
for
for
fees
and
services.
So
you
know
recreation
stuff,
that's
in
its
own
major
category.
E
H
I
I
I
do
have
to
say
every
year
we
come
and
we
begin
our
budget
meetings
and
I
wonder
how
we
will
ever
get
a
balanced
budget
and
every
year
we
make
it
and
so
I
kudos
to
all
of
the
people
that
work,
because
they
really
do
put
forth
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
and
come
up
with
ideas
that
allow
us
to
be
able
to
come
up
with
a
balanced
budget.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
that
participates
in
the
budget
process.
I
Some
slides
big
picture,
the
mayor's
recommend
a
budget
is
1.2
9
billion
dollars.
Now
that
includes
all
of
the
funds,
not
just
the
general
fund.
Obviously,
the
biggest
portion
of
the
the
budget
would
be
the
airport
fund.
Public
utilities
fund
is
also
a
very
large
one
and
then
the
general
fund
general
fund
is
if
I
can
read
my
numbers
about
365
million.
I
No,
it's
not
that
high
three
hundred
million
in
the
current
year,
so
I
got
some
glasses
I'll
put
them
on
how's
that,
okay,
as
far
as
it
goes,
we
always
begin
by
talking
about
revenues.
Just
like
Lisa
did
this
year
in
our
presentation.
Here.
That's
where
we
start.
We
try
to
figure
out
where
we're
at.
We
don't
want
to
budget
for
stuff
that
we
can't
pay
for.
So
we
start
figure
out
where
we're
at
and
then
go
from
there.
I
This
year
we
saw
just
a
minimal
increase
within
the
general
fund.
This
slide
that
you're
looking
at
is
the
general
fund
revenues
and
there
really
is
a
small
increase
within
the
general
fund,
with
the
exception
of
the
25
million.
So
as
you
look
at
the
F
way,
19m
RB,
you
can
see
the
gray
block
on
the
top
representing
the
twenty
five
million
dollars
from
the
sales
tax
increase,
but
the
budget
from
year.
Eighteen
to
nineteen
really
only
represented
about
a
two
point:
seven
million
dollar
increase
or
one
percent.
I
That
1%
had
a
lot
of
people
asking
for
it
and
a
lot
of
projects
asking
for
it,
and
so,
as
we
went
through
it,
we
tried
to
identify
what
the
priorities
were.
The
mayor
listed
out
where
her
priorities
were
those
were
taking
care
of
the
employees
and
then
also
we
wanted
to
cover
the
funding,
our
future
covering
transit,
safer
neighborhoods
infrastructure
and
housing.
As
we
go
into
the
budget,
we
talked
to
each
of
the
departments
and
asked
them
for
different
things.
I
One
of
the
things
that
we
wanted
that
we
did
this
year
was
we
asked
each
of
the
departments
to
present
their
three
top
needs
within
their
budget,
and
so
the
departments
came
to
us
with
those
needs.
We
also
asked
them
to
come
with
some
cuts.
The
needs
were
23
million
dollars
worth
the
cuts
weren't.
Quite
that
significant.
I
So
we
began,
you
know
with
all
of
those
needs.
The
mayor
really
did
recognize
that
her
biggest
priority
was
working
with
the
employees
to
give
some
salary
increases,
and
so
many
of
the
cuts
didn't
actually
happen.
Go
back.
One
slide,
I
think
real
fast.
So
as
we
focus
our
attention
on
the
general
funds
budget,
you
can
see
that
most
places
really
look
similar
to
where
they
were
last
year
in
this
graph.
The
biggest
differences
that
you
see
are
within
the
police
department,
public
services
and
within
non-departmental.
I
As
I
mentioned,
the
biggest
increase
that
the
mayor
proposed
within
her
budget
outside
of
funding
our
future
was
a
was
an
increase
in
compensation.
We
had
a
7%
increase
in
the
cost
of
health
insurance
that
the
that
the
city
is
seeing
that
results
in
about
1.3
million
dollar
increase
to
the
general
fund
and
a
2.1
million
dollar
increase
to
the
total
citywide
budget.
The
measure
mayor
also
included
going
forward
again
the
contribution
to
the
HSA,
the
upfront
up
front
contribution
to
the
HSA
for
both
single
double
and
family
coverage.
I
A
Difficult
to
negotiate
when
you
come
to
the
table
saying
here's
what
there
is
the
negotiation
is,
then
how
do
you
divide
it?
Not?
How
much
is
there
and
two
council
had
asked
the
administration
to
start
the
negotiation
process
well
before
the
budget
process
like
in
January,
think
those
what
the
conversation
that
we'd
had
last
year,
so
it
doesn't
sound
like
that's
what
happened
this
time
and
I
know
that
this
right
now
isn't
a
discussion
about
union
negotiations,
but
it
perks
my
ears
up
to
hear
that
so
we'll
come
back.
We
can
come
back
to
this.
I
And
I
can
I
can
say
that
that's
certainly
a
concern
that
the
administration
had
as
well
as
from
what
we're
hearing
from
the
from
the
unions
and
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
that
the
mayor
is
done
within
her
budget
is
she
has
budgeted
for
a
new
position,
a
labor
negotiator,
and
so
that
position
is
within
the
mayor's
recommended
budget
that
you're
you're
seeing
today
so
well,
we
didn't
really
fix
the
problem
this
year.
We
hope
to
have
fixed
the
problem
going
forward.
I'll.
G
D
K
Over
the
last
20
years,
I
would
say
the
negotiator
has
changed.
It
was
the
HR
director
for
a
number
of
years.
It
has
also
lived
in
the
attorney's
office
for
most
of
probably
the
last
15
years.
We
were
not
involved
very
much
last
year.
We
are
very
much
involved
in
the
fire
contract
negotiations
this
year
at
the
request
of
the
administration.
So
we
could
certainly
have
a
policy
discussion
with
with
Patrick
when
he's
here
about
different
ways
to
manage.
It.
M
G
Couple
questions:
if
that's
all
right,
not
on
this
topic,
looking
at
the
revenue
slide,
it
looks.
I
could
be
wrong
about
this,
but
you
got
five
areas
that
sort
of
hold
most
of
the
revenue
fairly
I,
don't
say
equally,
but
it's
fairly
good,
it's
fairly
balanced.
Is
that
accurate
to
say
and
compared
to
other
cities
of
this
size?
Is
that
fairly
balanced
as
well?
There's.
E
G
E
E
E
Is
especial
in
Utah
I
think
in
Utah
you
know,
state
statute
governs
what
we
can
charge
pretty
tightly
so
fees
you
have
to
cost
justify
and
some
fees
you
can't
even
charge.
So
everything
is
governed
by
state
statute
tightly
and
so
those
three
especially
in
Utah,
are
the
three
largest
and
in
other
in
other
states.
I.
Believe
property
tax
is
probably
a
lot
larger
than
sales
tax
is
here.
It's
pretty
equal
right.
Property
tax
and
sales
tax
are
about
or
pretty
equal
as
far
as
revenue
generating.
Okay.
L
C
Then
I
just
have
a
little
context
on
that,
and
while
our
in
our
city,
property
and
sales
tax
are
pretty
equal,
doing
an
analysis
sort
of
before
the
2009
crash,
most
other
cities
in
Utah
didn't
exceed
20%
property
tax,
and
so
you
know
we're
at
like
a
third,
a
third
property
in
sales.
Since
the
crash
cities
that
relied
too
heavily
on
sales
tax
realized
that
they
couldn't
fund
their
ongoing
needs,
and
so
a
lot
had
to
increase
property
taxes.
C
There,
because
it
is
the
predictable
revenue
source,
so
I,
think
Salt
Lake
City
has
been
well
positioned
just
in
having
that
sort
of
diversified
portfolio
and
kind
of
continuing
that
practice
of
always,
you
know,
being
mindful
of
not
having
too
high
property
taxes,
but
not
putting
too
much
of
a
burden
on
just
sales
tax
to
fund
those
things.
Yeah.
G
E
Year
we
put
12
million
to
it.
That's
that's
the
difference.
The
difference
is,
is
that
we
have
given
you
almost
every
single
feed
we
possibly
can
think
of
in
order
to
charge
in
order
to
generate
more
revenue
and
because
of
state
statute
and
the
hindrance
is
there
we
are.
We
are
limited
to
what
we
charge.
So
last
year
we
came
with
some
newfies
stabilization
came
into
play.
E
Last
year,
sales
tax
increased
quite
a
bit
last
year,
so
we
could
diversify
that
and
this
year
property
tax
is
only
coming
in
four
hundred
thousand
above
budget
didn't
feel
like
we
could
come
to
the
council
with
a
stabilization
recommendation
didn't
bill,
it
was
justified.
You
know
sales
tax,
we
did
come
with
3.8
million
dollars,
that's
a
significant
increase.
That's
your
only
big
increase
inside
this
budget,
but
it's
because
we
are
running
out
of
options.
E
G
E
I
Just
to
cover
a
few
of
the
this
slide
just
talks
about
a
few
of
the
increases
that
you
will
see
within
the
budget.
Charles
in
public
lands
receive
some
one-time
funding.
That
is
some
of
the
funding
that
is
coming
from
the
RDA
for
operation
Rio
Grande.
Second
year
coverage
for
trails
and
public
lands,
clean
ups,
governmental
immunity,
we
are
self-insured,
and
so
we
had
to
budget
or
got
to
budget
a
little
bit
of
an
increase
towards
governmental
immunity.
I
Interest
costs
continue
to
rise
with
the
changes
in
interest
rates,
so
our
interest
expense
increased.
We
did
see
interest
revenue
increase
as
well.
Just
as
a
note,
the
budget
also
includes
a
change
in
the
way
we
are
budgeting
for
the
Salt
Lake
Arts
Council
there
is
a
one-time
change
of
$90,000
was
slightly
different.
I
The
capital
improvement
program
to
truly
make
it
a
program,
and
that
was
a
change
to
where
we
we
talk
specifically
about
debt
service
and
then
so
we
we
broke
it
down
into
three
different
areas
that
and
those
areas
were
debt
service,
ongoing
maintenance
of
capital
assets
and
then
new
projects
within
the
capital
improvement
program
and
then
last
slide
that
I
have
I.
Think
I
actually
have
two
slides
on
funding
our
future
just
really
quickly.
As
we
looked
at
funding
our
future,
you
know
we.
A
E
John
and
I
just
completed
fund
balance
that
will
be
coming
with
BA
five
and
it's
at
eleven
point
three.
One
percent
now
remember
that
we
probably
have
some
significant
savings.
Coming
back
from
BA,
one
that
was
adopted
with
a
Rio
Grande,
because
staffing
hasn't
people
haven't
been
hired
so
that
will
drop
to
fund
balance
and
come
back
into
fund
balance
as
well.
That's
tough
to
predict
it.
E
You
know,
I've
been
thinking
about
this
and
I
have
some
suggestions
on
where
I
think
that
is
a
good
place
for
us
to
take
it
from
and
safe
example
would
be
the
property
tax
right
or
$400,000
above
budget
and
property
tax.
Maybe
we
take
that
whole
$400,000
and
you
stick
it
in
your
fund
balance
right.
Anything
above
your
budget
in
property
tax
up
to
a
certain
percentage
you
put
into
fund
balance,
are.
E
E
A
E
A
Councilmembers
I
just
want
to
point
out
regarding
this
slide,
that
on
b6
actually
be
five:
six
and
seven
there's
some
breakouts
of
these
numbers
and
on
the
housing
portion
of
it.
It
ties
units
per
year
for
those
dollars
and
the
ami
targeted
and
that's
pretty
cool
information
to
have
lined
up
with
the
dollars.
So
just
so,
you
know
other.
A
A
D
D
A
C
I
A
We'll
dig
into
it
more
I
won't
make
any
golf
puns
tonight,
but
I
hope
that
my
peers
start
looking
at
the
proposal
and
thinking
about
what
on
earth
we're
going
to
do
here,
because
the
intention
I
believe
James
and
Andrew
were
here
last
year
when
we
set
that
contingent
appropriation
was
that
we
would
have
answers
that
we
could
make
decisions
based
off
of
for
this
year's
budget.
We
don't
have
solutions
being
presented
to
us
and
we're
asking
to
confer
being
asked
to
continue
funding
this
enterprise
fund
out
of
the
general
fund.
Madam.
D
Chair
just
to
highlight
that
there
were
options
brought
back,
but
they
didn't
coincide
with
the
policy
that
was
set
forth
by
this
body.
So
there
were
things
that
came
forward
that
the
administration
provided,
but
none
of
it
coincided
with
the
policy
discussions
that
we
have
had
regarding
the
golf
enterprise
fund,
you're.
D
A
D
A
In
my
memory
that
was
a
separate
discussion
from
the
RFI
discussion,
so
we
made
that
contingent
appropriation
based
on
the
RFI
is
around
and
dense
concepts,
correct
and
they're.
Those
RFI's
are
in
the
building
and
they're,
not
in
the
council
office.
Correct.
That's
my
problem
just
to
plant
a
seed,
okay!
Thank
you.
Lisa
John
and
Mary
Beth
will
have
many
more
fun
discussions.
We're
gonna,
take
a
dinner
break
and
start
promptly
at
6:30
with
our
city
policy
and
state
law
for
small
cell
wireless
technology.
Thanks.
F
F
F
F
F
F
A
A
We're
get
back
to
item
a5,
the
small
cell
wireless
technology,
city
policy
and
state
law
and
have
been
Luedtke
and
Kiera
Luke.
If
you
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
come
up
and
give
us
some
introduction,
if
you
would
Ben
I
know,
Kimberly,
try,
dresses,
I
you're
welcome
to
come
up
if
you'd
like
to
in
danrip.
Thank
you.
N
So
there
are
two
related
items
on
the
council
agenda.
The
first
one
is
in
informational,
transmittal
and
the
second
is
a
request
for
a
master
license
agreement
for
a
private
vendor
and
there's
one
staff
report
that
relates
to
both
of
these
and
I've
got
a
short
intro
and
then
I'm
gonna
hand
it
over
to
Dan,
who
has
a
PowerPoint,
walk
the
council
through
the
master,
license
agreement
and
does
not
require
a
public
hearing
to
adopt,
and
it
can
be
added
to
the
May
15th
council
agenda
for
potential
action.
N
The
new
technology
that
is
going
to
be
discussed
is
called
the
small
sell,
Wireless
facilities
and
the
intent
is
to
add
capacity
and
coverage
on
a
wireless
network.
This
fills
in
some
of
the
holes
and
adds
additional
capacity
for
telecommunication
networks
and
it's
often
used
in
areas
with
high
density
and
that
it's
often
used
in
areas
with
high
densities,
such
as
the
downtown
and
I'm
sure
you've
heard
of
5g
the
fifth-generation
wireless
technology.
This
is
part
of
the
backbone
of
that
next
generation.
N
The
the
small
cell
wireless
facilities
are
installed
in
the
public
right-of-way
and
recent
changes
to
state
law.
Sb
189
will
allow
these
to
be
installed
on
pretty
much
any
structures
in
the
public
right-of-way,
so
street
signs,
streetlights,
utility,
poles,
mono,
poles,
new
poles.
Just
for
this
federal
and
state
law
means
that
these
telecommunication
providers
have
the
right
to
install
their
small
cell
facilities
in
the
public
right-of-way.
But
the
city
does
have
limited
space
to
control
the
design.
N
The
administration
is
recommending
a
master
license
agreement'
process.
The
city
does
not
currently
have
a
process
or
a
governing
ordinance
to
regulate
small
cell
wireless
technology.
The
master
license
agreement
is
similar
to
franchise
agreements
that
have
come
before
the
council
before,
in
that,
once
a
vendor
is
given
a
master
license
agreement,
they
would
still
need
to
obtain
a
permit
for
each
location
that
has
a
small
cell
wireless
facility
installed.
N
The
specific
agreement
with
ex
net
is
for
a
term
of
five
years
and
it
would
automatically
renew
for
a
second
five-year
term,
and
this
is
the
first
master
license
agreement
for
small
cell
facilities
coming
before
the
council.
But
we
understand
negotiations
are
ongoing
with
four
more
vendors
so
that
we
may
see
more
of
these
later
this
calendar
year
and
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Dan.
For
a
presentation,
great.
B
A
B
So
we
have
been
working
and
I
say
we
many
city
departments.
Many
individuals
have
come
together
to
collaborate
to
try
to
figure
this
out,
we've
known
for
a
couple
years
that
this
small
cell
technology
is
coming
to
Salt,
Lake
City,
and
so
that
has
been
the
driving
force
behind
this,
and
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time
trying
to
formulate
a
way
to
integrate
it
into
current
policy
that
we
have
in
current
ordinances.
And
so
that's
what
brings
us
here
tonight.
No.
B
A
In
the
I,
don't
have
the
language
to
describe
the
3G
and
the
other
technologies
that
we
currently
franchise,
with
which
I'm
sure
you
do.
It
seems
as
though
we're
reaching
a
limitation
of
bandwidth
or
something
that
has
led
to
new
technologies
being
developed
based
on
our
ever
expanding
function
as
a
society
on
wireless
networks,
and
is
that.
K
B
See
or
excuse
me,
a
technology
overview
of
what
small
cell
is
and
then
I
want
to
just
take
a
few
minutes
to
talk
about
a
process
and
and
how
we
want
to
implement
that
into
the
city
and
our
existing
city
policy
and
the
forthcoming
legislation
that
we're
hoping
to
go
through
a
little
bit
tonight
as
well.
But
let
me
just
start
by
showing
you
or
giving
you
just
a
quick
overview
of
what
a
small
cell
company
is.
B
The
FCC
has
classified
telecommunication
or
have
classified
these
small
cell
providers
as
telecommunications
providers,
and
these
companies
have
requested
installations
on
third-party
utility.
Poles,
city-owned
street
lights,
traffic
poles,
and
they
also
want
to
install
mono
poles
and
the
participants
in
the
small
cell
market,
at
least
in
Salt.
Lake
City
include
EXA
net
crown
Castle
Verizon
and
mobility,
and
each
of
those
companies
have
representatives
here
tonight
in
the
audience.
B
O
Just
gonna
add
part
of
this
is
due
to
the
increase
in
demand
for
downloading
data,
so
that
is
growing
and
exponentially,
and
so
the
small
cells
are
to
address
that
capacity
or
that
coverage,
sometimes
in
the
density,
but
also
as
we
as
they
move
to
5g,
which
is
the
next
technology.
5G
is
dependent
entirely
on
small
cell,
so
the
the
towers
will
still
exist.
The
macro
sites,
but
most
of
the
new
technology,
as
the
as
the
industries
are
building
out
their
networks
are
going
to
be
based
on
this
small
cell
concept.
A
So
thanks
I
will
go
to
counts.
Murray
Rogers,
but
I
just
wanted
to
ask
that
in
hearing
about
the
need
for
these,
particularly
in
urban
areas,
with
high
density
and
new
technologies
being
built
on
small
cell
technology.
Does
how
does
that
work?
When
you
take
a
device
with
new
small
cell
based
technology
into
a
rural
setting,
and
do
they
are
they
adaptive
between
macro
sites,
satellites,
small
cell
sure,.
B
D
Yes
in
researching
this
I
understand
that
there's
a
lot
of
different
sizes
of
these
small
cells
and
in
looking
at
that
I
know
that
some
of
them
haven't
been
installed
on
the
base
of
a
light
pole.
How
do
we
make
sure
that
it
doesn't
encroach
on
a
DA
compliance
in
the
city
or
how
do
we
make
sure
that
these
are
actually
aesthetically
pleasing
in
downtown
Salt
Lake
with
the
polls
that
we
have
or
in
how
they're?
Looking
at
installing
these
I
mean?
D
Is
there
some
sort
of
design
guideline
that
we
can
look
at
and
making
sure
that
it
it's
appealing
to
Salt
Lake
City?
That's
my
first
question.
My
second
question
is:
was
Greg
Daley
involved
with
this
as
CIO,
because
he
has
some
really
great
ideas
for
looking
for
us
to
become
a
technology
city
and
that's
in
providing.
You
know
wireless
internet
throughout
the
city,
and
you
know
it
kicks
you
off
at
a
certain
time,
but
is
that
something
that
he's
been
brought
into
the
loop
on
to
see?
D
B
A
O
B
So
as
far
as
the
aesthetics
go,
that's
actually
the
very
next
slide,
and
so
let's
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
the
equipment
looks
like
and
the
size
and
and
how
we
plan
to
to
bring
these
into
the
city
and
attach
them.
You
know
where
these
providers
want
to
attach
them.
So
there
are
four
different
components
to
the
small
cell
location.
B
The
second
component
is
the
radio
itself
and
that's
usually
contained
within
some
kind
of
box,
that's
attached
to
the
pole
and
then
there's
also
the
power
that
runs
to
the
pole
and
in
most
cases,
if
it
is
a
pole,
the
power
runs
on
the
inside
of
the
pole,
where
it
can,
if
it's
a
hollow-core
type
structure.
If
it's
a
wood
pole
like
we
have
throughout
the
city,
then
those
type
of
wires
are
attached
to
the
pole
itself
and
then
there's
also
the
backhaul,
which
is
the
trenching
that
takes
place
in
the
right-of-way.
B
O
B
So
they've
done
a
good
job
in
this
example
of
containing
that
within
the
base
of
the
pole
itself,
and
then
there's
also
a
lot
of
different
design
options
based
on
the
type
of
poles
that
we
have,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
these
similar
poles.
But
we
also
have
our
decorative
light
poles
that
are
downtown.
That
is
something
we
want
to
be
very
thoughtful
about
and
how
how
that's
all
going
to
take
place.
So
does
that
give
you
a
general
idea,
councilman
Rogers
well,.
O
O
D
O
D
B
A
B
Okay
thanks
so
just
quickly,
let's
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
it's
currently
set
up
in
the
city
with
city
ordinance
or
excuse
me.
Let
me
back
up.
Let
me
just
talk
about
a
few
of
the
mechanisms
that
we
already
have
in
place
that
helps
us
regulate
telecom
activity
within
the
city.
First,
one
is
the
franchise
agreement
which
you're
all
familiar
with
you've
passed
several
of
those
over
time.
B
B
That's
used
to
tether
different
buildings
together,
so
the
LDS
headquarters,
were
there
networking
buildings
together
or
campuses
out
in
the
international
center,
where
they're
trying
to
just
you
know,
bring
together
different
buildings
and
and
tie
them
in
through
a
network,
and
then
finally,
we
have
our
encroachment
right-of-way
permit.
That
is
very
specific
to
different
types
of
encroachments
that
are
in
the
right-of-way.
B
The
current
city
code
allows
for
a
wireless
infrastructure,
that's
known
as
the
video
services
systems,
so
this
would
include
any
type
of
antenna
that
would
emit
a
transmission
of
digital
signals
and
that's
covered
in
our
ordinance.
Although
it
is
a
little
bit
outdated
and
then
our
zoning
allows
for
antennas
to
only
be
located
on
third
party
owned
utility.
Poles
and
they're
also
allow
for
electrical
boxes
and
antennas
to
be
in
the
right-of-way,
but
they
must
be
subsurface
in
a
vault,
so
we
don't
allow
for
a
ground
mounted
utility
box.
B
So,
in
light
of
that
and
the
work
that
we
had
done
prior
to
the
bill
coming
together,
we
were
we
put
together
a
to
agreement
structure
that
would
allow
the
providers
to
come
in
and
get
the
grant
of
access
and
then
also
the
permits
that
they
needed
to
attach
to
what
was
allowed.
What's
are
currently
allowed
in
city
code
to
attach
their
infrastructure
and
that
included
the
master
license
agreement.
It's
very
similar
to
the
franchise
agreement
that
you're
familiar
with.
We
named
it
the
master
license
agreement.
B
Just
because
it
is
more
specific
to
small
cell
technology
and
then
coupled
with
that
would
be
any
type
of
right-of-way
permit
application
that
was
brought
into
the
city
and
run
through
our
system.
You
know,
through
engineering,
in
the
different
city
departments,
to
get
the
actual
attachment
permits
for
those.
B
We
anticipate
that
the
city
will
be
flooded
with
permit
applications
in
the
very
near
future,
and
the
the
state
legislation
has
also
put
limits
on
that,
so
that
we're
not
completely
overwhelmed
by
it
they're
allowing
for
25
facilities
to
be
in
each
application
and
then
also
allowing
for
a
consolidated
application
where
they're
able
to
do
325
facilities
within
30
days.
So
we're
hoping
that
that
kind
of
controls,
the
volume
that
comes
in
and
then
we
want
to
quickly
implement
that
into
our
existing
process
structure.
B
B
B
As
Ben
had
said,
these
the
SB
189
bill
will
become
effective
on
September
1st
of
this
year,
which
is
in
for
very
short
months
and
right
now
we
are
putting
together
a
team
to
contemplate
some
design
standards
to
be
able
to
put
those
into
place
so
that
we
have
that
ready
to
go
in
the
very
near
future,
and
then
we
also
want
to
propose
language
for
a
small
sail
facility
ordinance,
and
that's
that's
what
we
anticipate
to
happen
next
and
so
with
that,
are
there
any
questions?
I
can
answer.
We
can
answer
for.
A
A
For
me,
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
were
going
there,
though
James
I'm
curious
about
the
MLA
language
around
the
company
being
able
to
trimmer
trees
with
the
approval
and
direction
of
the
urban
forester
and
I
am
curious
about
that,
because
you
know
for
years,
I've
been
trying
to
get
enough
money
to
let
the
urban
forestry
department
function
and
at
least
plant
more
trees.
Then
we
rip
out
every
year
and
it's
it's
an
ongoing
push
to
have
sufficient
funding
for
that
division
with
the
amount
of
permit
applications
and
the
amount
of
potential
sites.
A
B
B
You
know
certain
standards
and
best
practices
that
they
follow
to
make
sure
that
the
trees,
don't
you
know,
interfere
with
the
poles
themselves.
So
so
they
don't
really
anticipate
that
there's
going
to
be
a
huge
influx
and
demand
for
tree
trimming
around
the
small
cell
technology
itself,
just
because
you
know
they
are
going
to
be
attached
to
the
city.
You
know
already
existing
city
infrastructure
and.
A
A
For
example,
the
alleyway
behind
my
house
has
utility
poles,
Rocky
Mountain
power
poles,
and
it
also
has
a
ton
of
trees
around
it.
It's
in
their
people's
backyard.
So
there's
a
lot
of
tree
trimming
needs
that
Rocky
Mountain
power
and
coordinates
to
manage
so
I
guess:
I,
don't
take
as
much
comfort
to
hear
that
they
won't
be
in
need
of
a
dressing
tree.
Encroachment
on
poles,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
areas
where
existing
poles,
especially
when
we
look
at
third
party
owned
infrastructure,
are
within
within.
O
Yeah
yeah,
so
the
provision
that
we've
proposed
in
the
master
license
agreement
is
what
we
currently
require
in
our
franchise
agreements,
and
we
certainly
expect
that
any
tree
trimming
will
be
coordinated
with
the
urban
forester
you're
right,
I'm,
not
sure
we
can
say
exactly
what
the
impact
would
be.
They
do
not
have
to
have
a
clear,
line-of-sight
necessarily
depending
on
what
the
infrastructure
is,
so
providers
have
different
kinds
of
antennas
and
things
like
that.
O
O
Depends
if
it's
in
the
backyard
or
if
it's
on
an
alley,
that's
considered
a
right-of-way,
but
some
of
them
are
private,
so
it's
not
necessarily
going
to
have
antennas
on
it.
But
you
know
what
you're
right
I
think.
That's
something
we
hope
to
accomplish
with
our
design
guidelines,
our
placement
priorities,
and
maybe
one
of
those
could
be
avoiding
trees.
O
That's
not
something
that
we've
fully
worked
through,
but
there's
other
times
we've
talked
about
it
like.
Is
there
a
way
to
go
in
a
location
where
you're
not
on
a
decorative
light
pole
compared
to
a
standard
light
pole?
So
we're
talking
about
those
priorities
with
the
providers?
Councilmember
Fowler.
Thank.
M
L
L
M
L
N
L
M
So
this
brings
me
to
my
concern,
which
is
item
number
five
on.
Oh,
you
guys
don't
have
our
staffing
in
public,
oh,
you
might
have
our
staff
report,
but,
and
that
is
the
workload
and
staff
levels
if
we're
looking
at
seventy
five
from
potential
applications
from
one
provider
a
month,
how
many
staff
members
do
you
need
to
go
through
with
those
applications
and
get
things
done
and
what
we
would
hope
to
be
a
timely
manner?
For
you
know
our
business
partners
in
a
sense
I
mean
what
ideally
would
would
that
take
an.
B
Excellent
question
not
quite
sure
the
answer
just
because
we
have
an
experienced
it
yet,
but
I
feel
like
that.
I
feel
like
we're.
Gonna
be
challenged
with
that.
I
feel
like
it's
going
to
test
our
capacity
absolutely
but
I
don't
feel
like
it's
going
to
be
an
ongoing
thing,
I
think.
If
we
can
get
through
this
initial
phase
of
getting
them
installed
on
on
the
polls,
then
it
will
subside
dramatically.
So
so,
if
it's
a
staffing
question,
it
may
be
something
that
we
would
need
to
look
at
on
the
front
end
of
the
installation.
M
B
Is
and
if
this
has
been
a
moving
target
for
a
couple
of
years-
and
we
did
not-
it's
been
hard
to
really
estimate
when
this
is
going
to
go,
live
and
when
we're
gonna,
you
know
be
faced
with
this,
and
this
happened
a
lot
faster
than
we
anticipated
just
with
the
way
the
state
legislation
went
this
year.
So,
unfortunately,
we
didn't
contemplate
that
with
this
year's
budget,
but
certainly
something
we
would
need
to
look
forward
in
the
future
to
do
possibly
wait.
O
L
You,
maybe
if
you
could
just
give
me,
you
name
your
company
and
roughly
how
many
you're
planning
on
just
a
ballpark,
so
I'm,
Scott,
Harry
I'm
here
with
representing
crown
castle
and
we're
currently
working
on
a
master
license.
Agreement
I.
Think
that
to
answer
your
question
a
little
bit,
maybe
with
a
little
more
clarity
for
what's
going
on
in
the
US,
it's
there
are
literally
going
to
be
Scott.
A
L
O
D
L
L
In
some,
in
some
cases,
yes,
and
in
some
cases
no
so
co-locate
ability
depends
on
the
type
of
structure,
the
type
of
technology.
Some
carriers
would
say
they
couldn't
co-locate
with
other
carriers.
But
it's
our
experience,
cron
castles,
an
infrastructure
provider
and
we
are
co-locating
multiple
carriers
throughout
the
country.
So
so
I.
D
F
O
O
Not
provided
for
the
lease
but
I'm,
not
sure
I'm,
totally
following
your
question
right
now,
they
can
only
go
on
third
party
utility
poles
and,
under
this
version
of
the
master
license
agreement
which
will
be
in
place
through
at
least
September
1.
They
will.
The
companies
will
pay
the
city
an
attachment
fee
that
will
change
after
September
1,
where
we're
only
allowed
to
charge
$50
per
attachment
to
city-owned
pole
right.
So
so.
O
B
O
P
L
My
name
is
Richard
Lee
and
I
also
am
with
x2
net
Callie's
on
the
construction
side,
I'm,
what's
called
external
relations,
and
so
we
are
before
you
today
for
the
master
lies
agreement,
master
license
agreement
and
our
immediate
plan
is
a
Verizon
project,
but
I
will
be
back
in
short
order
for
a
project
for
another
carrier.
Also
in
your
jurisdiction.
B
L
L
P
You
know
what
that
that's
going
to
be
determined
you
know
on
on,
wants
actually
like
we're
here
with
Verizon
we're
actually
doing
a
bunch
of
their
their
small
cells
for
them,
so
whether
they
they
you
know,
will
do
some
for
them
and
there
they
will
actually
do
their
own.
What
I'm
understanding!
So
so
in
our
in
what
we're
doing
we
are
doing,
you
know,
20
to
30,
with
Verizon
and
and
other
other
people,
just
like
the
crown
castles
of
the
of
us.
So,
okay.
L
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Neffe
Garcia
I'm
with
mobility,
Davis
County
resident
and
here
for
sonic,
safe,
we're
currently
on
the
books
right
now,
I
have
15
sites
planned.
Will
you
pull
that
mic
up?
We
can't
hear
you
Thank
You
senior
15
sites
online
five,
one
five
four
this
year,
we'll
probably
even
bleed
in
the
next
year
by
an
average
that
might
be
the
ballpark
average
here
in
Salt,
Lake
City.
L
L
So
my
last
question
is,
and
thanks
to
all
of
you
for
being
here,
is
there
anything
that
that
any
of
your
companies
are
doing
to
look
at
bridging
the
digital
gap
in
our
community
and
are
there
opportunities
for
the
administration
to
work
with
you
to
bring
digital
access
to
our
residents?
That
don't
currently
have
it.
L
O
It
might
be
helpful
to
distinguish
some
companies
are
carriers
like
Verizon,
who
are
providing
the
service
as
well
as
maybe
installing
their
in
own
infrastructure?
Some
companies
like
mobility
might
only
be
installing
the
infrastructure
and
their
customers
are
the
carriers.
So
it's
because
it's
demand
based,
they
might
not
always
no.
O
State
statute
allows
them
to
install
mono
poles,
but
the
city
would
be
coming
up
with
the
design
guidelines
would
cover
that
and
then
also,
if
we're
trying
to
prioritize
the
types
of
installations
there's
places
where
mono
poles
might
be
more
desirable
than
attaching
to
city-owned
infrastructure
and
vice
versa
and
so
I
think
that's
something
we
would
work
through
in
the
policy.
Okay,.
O
G
And
just
for
the
providers
out,
there
unfortunately
always
work
on
negative
experiences.
You
have
one
negative
experience
to
translates
to
everything,
so
that
was
my
question
about
how
much
of
that
comes
within
the
purview
of
the
city
design
or
our
guidelines
that
way
versus
their
right
of
access
to
the
right-of-way.
A
certain
question
is
budget
impact.
G
There's
an
ongoing
access
fee
equal
to
three
point:
five
percent
of
the
gross
revenue
which,
unless
is
a
I,
don't
know
the
exact
language,
but
it
says
attributable
to
the
cities
to
the
company's
network
within
Salt
Lake
City,
any
idea
how
that's
enforced.
Do
we
have
to
look
at
the
books
of
companies
or
how
does
this
happen
exactly
so.
O
Right
now,
it's
a
similar
fee
to
what
we
charge
under
the
municipal
telecommunications
license
tax
and
those
companies
that
are
subject
to
that
tax.
Submit
reports
to
the
city
and
I
think
we
would
do
the
same
process
with
companies
who
are
gonna,
pay
that
three
and
a
half
percent
either
as
a
tax
or
as
the
fee
I
think
we
probably
need
to
discuss
with
finance
whether
there's
auditing
rights
or
how
they
manage
those
I.
Don't
I,
don't
know
that
I
can.
G
A
question
have
we
had
any
chance
to
look
at
projections
for
fees
being
brought
in
by
this
compared
to
the
expenditures
we're
going
to
do
because,
right
now
we
have
a
hard
time
enforcing
things,
I
think
just
staff
wise.
Would
these
cover
enough
to
have
the
person
the
the
first
person
in
the
middle
of
the
the
chart
essentially,
and
is
that
one
person
who's
identified
as
the
point
person
for
all
this
yeah.
B
That
that's
a
really
tough
question.
We
haven't
had
the
data
to
be
able
to
make
those
projections
just
because,
as
you've
seen,
you
know
as
they've
all
as
each
provider
has
given
us
tomates
of
what
they're
going
to
be
mm-hmm.
It's
been
hard
to
really
nail
that
down
of
what
that
translates
to.
As
far
as
revenue
and
and
I
know
that
the
state
when
they,
when
this
bill
was
passed,
looked
at
this
from
the
perspective
of
cost
recovery
rather
than
a
revenue
source.
But
but.
O
G
L
So
yeah,
that's
exactly
right!
So
when
a
carrier
approaches
crown
castle
we'll
either
in
conjunction
with
their
teams
or
on
our
own
design,
the
the
network
for
them
and
then
they
will
comment
on
that
and
then
switch
things
around
move
things
around,
but
essentially
it's.
However,
the
carrier
needs
to
cover
that
area.
That's
what
will
that's
what
we'll
build?
Okay.
L
A
My
question
was
very
closely
related
to
councilmember
Johnston's
questions
around
how
tightly
the
state
has
restricted
the
compensation
categories
and
the
reality
of
us
managing
with
this
and
then
as
a
next
step
on
that
one.
In
terms
of
looking
at
an
ordinance,
I
I
would
really
like
to
see
going
back
to
your
number
of
potential
sites
in
the
city,
how
we
would
break
those
out
if
we,
if
we
were
queen
for
a
day-
and
we
could
say
these
types
of
city-owned
infrastructure-
are
ideal
for
these
kind
of
installations.
A
These
ones
which
I
know
we
know
which
are
where,
in
terms
of
our
ornamental
lighting
and
other
things,
that
we
could
say
this
tier
two
we'd
like
to
avoid
installations
on
and
they're
in.
Is
there
an
opportunity
for
us
to
recognizing
that
we
don't
have
a
revenue
stream
here,
but
probably
barely
a
functional
net
here
from
the
permit
fees
and
application
fees?
Is
there
any
opportunity
for
us
to
incentivize
location
on
the
infrastructure
that
we
would
prefer,
rather
than
the
whole
gamut
of
city-owned
infrastructure?
A
L
A
While
you
have
the
mic
and
thinking
about
some
of
the
I,
don't
know,
they're
probably
10
feet
tall
at
the
most
are
some
of
our
neighborhood
ornamental
lighting.
Fixtures
they're
not
tall
are
those.
Is
that
a
height
that
you
would
really
actually
look
at
installing
small
cell
on
or
is
it
really
more
those
those?
What
do
we
call
them
hawk
light,
but
not
Hawk
like
someone,
we
need.
G
G
G
G
O
G
I
hear
this
sort
of
implementation
is
rolled
out
based
on
the
need
so
41st
year,
those
kind
of
concepts
based
on
the
demand,
but
if
you're
gonna
get,
if
there's
a
demand
in
the
city
and
I,
think
since
we
want
it
right,
we
want
5g,
we
enjoy
that,
we
all
ask
for
it.
But
if
we're
gonna
ask
for
that,
that
means
we're
gonna
have
a
lot
more.
Of
these
I
mean
this
is
tip
of
the
iceberg
potentially,
and
so
we're
not
just
talking
about
our
power
poles
we're
talking
about.
G
M
M
That
is
you
know
if
we
have
one
pole
per
block
and
that's
600
feet,
then
are
we
gonna
have
all
these
little
mana
poles
in
between
all
of
them
and
the
state
statute
says
under
subsection
6
that
we
it
that
we
can
tell
somebody
they
can't
put
them
on
a
pole.
If
there
are
these
other
restrictions
there,
and
so
that
can
be
a
part
of
of
that
design
standard
from
what
I
read
in
the
statute.
So.
O
The
restrictions,
I
think
are
a
residential
street
that
is
less
than
60
feet
wide.
They
don't
have
the
automatic
right
to
put
a
monopole
I,
think
that
I
think
practically
will
have
to
work
out,
though,
what
that
means,
because
they
also
might
not
be
able
to
attach
easily
to
a
light
pole
or
other
infrastructure.
That's
there
so
it'll.
It
will
definitely
take
a
lot
of
coordination
among
those
locations.
M
And
I
agree
to
your
point,
though:
I
think
that's
part
of
that
ordinance,
because
it
does
say
that
we
can
authorize
it
with
written
consent
and
if
they
fall
into
this
and
I
think
that
just
goes
towards
the.
How
we
write
the
ordinance
and
how
we
look
at
the
ordinance
and
the
design
standards
and
as
to
Madame
chairs
point,
is
that
you
know
if
we
have
different
tiers
or
things
like
that.
M
G
Less
concerned
about
that,
actually
I
think
yeah.
I
get
your
point.
This
is
one
of
those
back
bone
structures,
that's
important
to
the
city
infrastructure.
It's
not
a
public
utility,
but
it's
getting
close
to
it
and
they'll
treat
it
like
that
in
our
design,
because
it
might
be.
We
have
two
master
plan
out
a
lot
of
parts
of
the
city
and
say
this
is
part
of
the
infrastructure
now
going
forward.
How
are
we
going
to
do
that
tying
in
to
our
lighting
infrastructure
and
other
infrastructure
pieces?
G
G
If
we
want
a
smart
city
and
I'm
not
saying
this
is
tied
into
that,
because
this
is
private
property,
but
it
requires
that
sort
of
a
network
concept
and
so
really
thinking
honestly
about
what
is
a
monopole
mean
in
this
context
it
might
not
mean
what
we
think
it
means
it
might
be
only
integrated
with
other
lighting.
We
may
need
all
over
the
city
and
see
how
we
can
titles
together
in
our
existing
budget
needs
and
see
if
we
can
master
plan
some
of
this
out.
Okay,.
A
N
To
wrap
it
up,
there's
multiple
items
that
may
be
coming
back
to
the
council,
so
an
ordinance
being
one
another
would
be
the
design
guidelines,
I'm,
not
sure
if
those
would
be
adopted
by
the
council
or
they
be
brought
back
for
input.
There
are
also
other
master
license
agreements,
as
we've
heard
tonight,
potentially
three
more
on
the
way
and
the
current
one
before
the
Council
for
X
net,
since
it
would
go
into
effect
before
the
state
law
goes
into
effect.
N
A
Thank
you.
Thanks
for
your
work,
Kimberly
and
Dan
and
and
Kira
on
this
item
will
wrap
it
up,
see
you
again
whenever.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
We
have
no
public
hearing
on
this.
So
bizarre.
We
apologize
to
our
friends
with
the
Metropolitan
Water
District,
who
have
been
waiting
patiently.
Please
come
on
up
and
we'll
invite
Sam
Owen
from
our
council
office
to
give
us
our
policy
intro.
A
L
Okay,
the
Metropolitan
Water
District,
just
to
give
a
brief
summary
you're,
mostly
all
probably
familiar
with
this
information.
The
Metropolitan
Water
District
of
Salt,
Lake
and
Sandy,
is
a
governmental
agency
formed
to
convey
water
supplies
to
residents
of
the
Salt
Lake
Valley
through
Salt
Lake
City's
Department
of
Public
Utilities
residents
receive
drinking
water
supplied
by
the
Metropolitan
Water
District.
The
district
also
partners
with
a
number
of
other
entities
to
obtain
water
supplies
from
regions
throughout
the
central
portion
of
the
state,
including
the
Wasatch
back
area
as
part
of
supplying
Salt
Lake
water
users.
L
K
L
J
You
Sam
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
visit
with
you
this
evening.
We
really
appreciate
it
and
we'll
try
to
be
sensitive,
the
time
element,
noting
jazz
scores
and
so
on
notice.
Again
we
really
appreciate
the
city,
council,
staff,
Sam
and
Leigh,
who
do
a
wonderful
job.
We
really
appreciate
their
support
and
and
the
yeah
just
wonderful
job,
so.
J
Then
those
who
are
with
us
so
I'm
Mike,
DeVries
I'm,
the
general
manager
of
the
Metropolitan
Water
District
of
Salt,
Lake
and
Sandy.
This
is
Tom
Godfrey.
Is
you
mostly
know?
Most
of
you
know
if
not
all
Tom
and
Godfrey
is
the
chair
of
our
board,
and
he
is
also
the
president
of
the
Provo
River
water
users
Association.
So
you
play
some
very
important
key
roles
for
the
district.
At
this
time.
Also,
we
have
with
this
patka
Morrell,
who
is
a
trustee
and
the
secretary
of
the
board.
J
We
also
have
I
believe
did
John,
maybe
John
John,
maybe
also
a
trustee
made
it
in
here
with
us
today.
We
appreciate
him
being
here:
annalee
Muncie
is
an
assistant
general
manager
so,
and
she
does
a
wonderful
job,
helping
me
out
and
Laura
briefer
also
with
Salt
Lake
City
Public
Utilities.
We
really
appreciate
everything
she
does
again,
just
wonderful
staff
and
she's.
A
great
support
with
that.
J
Also,
our
we
have.
We
do
have
surplus
customers
as
well.
We
sell
additional
water
to
your
Jordan
Valley
Water
Conservancy
District
on
a
surplus
basis
as
needed
to
some
of
their
customers.
Also,
we
sell
to
irrigate
errs
and
we've
had
others
approaches
as
well.
Central
Utah,
Jordan
Valley
have
both
approached
us
for
additional
surplus
sales
on
a
wholesale
basis.
This
is
a
map
that
that
shows,
or
provides
kind
of
a
an
outline
of
what
the
service
area
of
the
metropolitan
water
district
is.
J
This
is
a
summary
of
the
water
supplies
that
the
Metropolitan
Water
District
really
relies
upon.
These
are
very
important
to
us.
The
Provo
River
Project,
which
is
part
of
the
Provo
Association
that
Tom,
is
president
of
60
1700
when
we
have
a
full
allocation,
20,000
acre
feet
from
Little
Cottonwood
Creek
on
an
on
an
average,
not
allocation,
but
on
an
average
yield
a
year.
A
J
J
J
A
A
J
J
A
J
G
A
G
J
A
J
Correct,
no,
that
makes
sense,
good
question
and
and
obviously
Little
Cottonwood
is
a
direct
flow
right
where
Provo
River
project
is
a
storage
right,
and
so
so
yeah
you're
right.
We
if
we
had
if
we
were
limited
on
our
storage
of
the
Pro
River
system,
Provo
River
project.
In
essence,
that
would
be
especially
of
concern
to
us.
If
our
yield
was
less,
you
know
proportionally,
we
would.
We
would
have
less
in
that
type
of
a
scenario.
So
yeah.
J
J
Q
So
I
would
also
just
translate
that
the
answer
to
that
question
in
another
way
for
Salt
Lake
City
in
that
on
the
Little
Cottonwood
system
we
actually
hold
about
70%
of
the
water
rights
in
that
system
and
Sandy
City
holds
the
other
about
30%
Metropolitan
Water
District
is
treating
our
water
rights
and
conveying
those
water
rights
but
they're
extremely
important
to
us
in
terms
of
our
water
right
portfolio.
It's
also
a
very
reliable
water
supply
most
years
in
terms
of
quality,
and
it's
part
of
our
watershed,
jurisdiction
right.
J
J
Any
other
questions
on
the
water
supply,
okay
agency
relationships.
The
main
point
of
this
slide
here
was
to
point
out
Bureau
of
Reclamation
projects
that
were
sponsored
by
local
entities,
so
Provo
River
water
users,
Association,
was
a
sponsor
of
the
Deer
Creek
Division
Metropolitan
Water
District
was
a
sponsor
of
the
aqueduct
division,
which
included
the
Salt,
Lake,
aqueduct
and
then
shareholder
ship
is
is
maybe
maybe
a
parent,
maybe
not,
but
Metropolitan.
Water
District
is
a
61.7%
shareholder
of
the
Provo
sociation
and
and
the
next
largest
shareholder
in
the
probe.
Association
is
a
Provo
River.
G
J
A
really
good
question
we
acquired
45,000,
initially
and
then
later
in
incrementally
we
procured
additional
amounts.
The
last
15,000
200
that
we
actually
acquired
was
related
to
an
irrigation
exchange
with
Utah
Lake
distributing
company,
believe
it
or
not.
So
so
it
was
kind
of
incremental
II
added
a
pond
over
the
years.
G
G
J
G
J
G
J
Let's
see,
maybe
just
really
quickly
the
infrastructure
for
the
Pearl
River
project,
and
these
are
really
important
in
the
way
of
conveying
the
water
supplies
to
metro
and
to
others,
Trane's
Basin
diversions.
We
rely
on
on
the
dashain
River
and
Weaver
supplies
are
diverted
and
brought
over
into
the
Provo
River
system.
Deer
Creek
Dam,
of
course,
is
essential
in
storing
the
water
and
then
the
Provo
reservoir
now
I'm,
not
sure
how
many
of
you
are
familiar
with
that
canal.
M
J
J
So
the
Salt
Lake
aqueduct
was
completed
as
far
as
its
construction
in
1951
Metro
was
a
local
sponsor
of
that
and
so
Metro
repaid
that
obligation
to
reclamation
and
has
since
received
title
of
that.
So
title
has
been
transferred.
It's
now
in
our
name.
The
east-west
aqueduct
is
something
that
I
think
that's
a
Salt
Lake
City
public
utilities
initiative
and
no.
That
is
not
something
that
Metro
is
contributing
to
or
participating
in
as
far
as
capital
investments.
Okay,
thanks
so
other
facilities,
a
little
cottonwood
water
to
implant
very
important
facility.
For
us.
J
J
We
worked
closely
with
sandy
city
in
Salt,
Lake
City,
to
figure
out
what
the
demands
would
be
projected
those
out
and
and
then
determined
what
improvements
need
to
be
made,
whether
it
was
expanding,
existing
facilities
or
adding
new
facilities
to
basically
take
care
of
the
needs
for
the
foreseeable
future.
We
actually
project
at
this
point
out
to
the
year
2100.
As
far
as
meeting
the
needs
of
Salt,
Lake,
City
and
Sandy.
That
could
always
change.
You
know
with
the
northwest,
quadrant
changes
and
who
knows
other.
J
You
know
what
else
can
happen
there,
but
anyway,
so
the
key
facilities
that
were
a
part
of
the
Metro
Water
Project
that
we're
on
the
capacity
side
or
a
number
one.
The
expansion
of
Little
Cottonwood
water
treatment
plant,
the
point
of
the
mountain
water
or
the
point
of
the
mountain
aqueducts,
rather,
which
connects
between
the
Little
Cottonwood
our
treatment
plant
and
our
new,
relatively
new
I.
Guess
it's
new
to
me.
2007
constructed
pointed
Mountain
water
treatment
plant.
So
we
have
an
aqueduct
between
the
two
which
allows
us
to
send
finished
water
either
direction.
J
J
So
just
really
quickly.
On
the
little
cottonwood
water
treatment
plant
expansion,
the
original
capacity
was
about
113
million
gallons
per
day.
We
expanded
it
to
150
million
gallons
per
day
with
the
upgrades
that
were
completed
most
of
those
completed
by
about
2007,
and
you
can
see
the
list
there
of
different
facilities
that
were
upgraded.
J
We
also
added
some
treatment,
components
or
treatment
technologies
that
we
previously
did
not
have.
What
you're
seeing
here
are
two
liquid
oxygen
tanks
that
feed
into
our
ozone
system
that
we
use
for
disinfection
purposes
at
the
Little
Cottonwood
water
treatment
plant,
which
actually
helps
us
meet
disinfection,
by-product,
regulatory
compliance
requirements.
J
So
the
point
of
mountain
aqueducts,
there
were
actually
multiple
segments.
There
was
a
raw
water
segment
that
feeds
into
the
point
of
the
mountain
water
treatment
plant,
and
then
there
was
a
finished
water
segment
which
I
described
a
second
ago,
which
was
important
because
again
it's
that
ability
for
us
to
it
gives
us
flexibility
to
run
both
plants
and
supplement
water
deliveries
from
either
the
south
end
of
the
valley
or
the
north
end,
depending
on.
Where
demands
are,
and
the
nice
thing
about
the
point
of
mountain
aqueducts-
is
it
because
of
that
interconnection?
J
It
pointed
mountain
water
treatment
plant.
We
can
actually
deliver
little
cottonwood
water.
All
the
way
down
to
point
of
the
mountain
water
treatment
plant
through
150th
south
into
the
Jordan
that
Jordan
adequate
Jordan
aqueduct
system
all
the
way
up
into
the
northwest
quadrant
of
Salt
Lake
City.
So
I,
don't
that's,
probably
pretty
confusing.
But
but
the
point
is,
is
it's:
it's
created
a
network
between
us
and
Jordan
Valley,
which
has
created
resiliency
as
far
as
wholesale
water
deliveries
and
it's
a
very
robust
and
valuable
system.
J
J
There
is
a
reserve
capacity
of
30
million
gallons
per
day
for
a
central
Utah
who
also
contributed
to
the
project
interest
free
10
million
dollars,
and
so,
if
they
never,
if
they
choose
not
to
utilize
that
30
million
gallons
per
day
at
some
point
in
the
future,
we'll
pay
them
back
interest
free
that
10
million
that
they
contributed
and
again
treatment
technologies
are
our
state
of
the
art,
so
ozone
UV,
conventional
filtration,
but
disinfection
is
very
important,
especially
with
Cryptosporidium.
As
some
of
the
other
challenges
we
have.
J
So
this
is
kind
of
an
interesting
bird's-eye
view
of
the
mass
X
that
was
taking
place
at
point
of
the
mountain
when
that
plant
was
being
constructed.
So,
of
course,
a
very
popular
hang-gliding
destination,
no
I,
you
know
actually
I,
wouldn't
mind,
but
I,
don't
think
my
wife
would
approve
so
and
then
some
more
pictures
of
the
construction
and
and
then
this
is
the
operations
building.
At
the
pointed
Mountain
plant
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
Provo
River
aqueduct,
so
the
enclosure
of
the
Provo
rez
work.
J
Now-
and
this
was
this-
is
a
really
amazing
project
from
a
bunch
of
levels,
but
it
really
was
important
in
that
it
helped.
Is
that
list
that
last
bullet
item
I
have
listed
there
in
improved
public
safety,
improved
water
quality,
which
is
really
important
to
us
also
capacity.
We
had
a
better
ability
to
convey
our
full
capacity
that
was
available
to
us
and
there
was
some
savings
so
there's
an
environmentally
positive
impact
of
this
installation
of
this
pipeline
126
inch
diameter.
J
So
a
ten
and
a
half
feet
in
diameter,
so
very
large
pipe
as
you
can
see
with
the
construction
there.
This
is
actually
the
next
one
kind
of
gives
you
a
better
idea
of
how
big
the
pipe
is.
So
it's
a
large
steel,
pipe
terminal,
Reservoir
replacement
project.
So
this
one
has
a
very
important
impact
in
Salt,
Lake
City.
This
is
one
that
so
the
the
original
construction
of
the
Salt
Lake
aqueduct
terminal
reservoir
was
part
of
that
construction.
It
was
completed
as
part
of
that
construction
in
1951.
J
The
concern
that
we
had
is
that
it
was
not
obviously
back
in
that
day.
Seismic
concerns
were
not
part
of
construction
standards
and
so
looking
at
it.
We
realized
that
there
was
a
very
large
liability
not
only
from
a
safety
standpoint,
but
also
from
a
reliable
water
supply
standpoint
for
Salt
Lake,
City,
fire
flows
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
J
So
we
met
with
in
worked
with
Salt
Lake
City
in
Sandy
as
well,
because
sandy
city
has
paid
their
proportionate
amount
as
well,
because
they
are
a
member
city,
even
though
they
take
direct
benefit
from
this.
So
we
met
with
both
member
cities
and
and
coordinated
a
project
turned
out
to
be
a
five
phase
seven-year
project.
So
it's
a
pretty
lengthy
project,
but
it's
it's
nearing
completion.
The
aesthetic
side
of
it
is
nearing
completion,
we're
taking
care
of
landscaping
and
things
of
that
nature.
Right
now.
J
The
functional
side
of
it
was
completed
in
late
2017,
so
it's
fully
operational
and
and
so
metro
and
the
Salt
Lake
City
are
fully
benefitting
from
this
project.
Forty
two
million
dollar
project
a
couple
of
construction,
related
pictures
and
then
just
maybe
just
to
mention
on
the
on
the
financing
side.
J
Water
rates
have
been
have
been
increased
as,
as
this
body
will
likely
know
a
couple
of
times
to
help
with
with
covering
the
costs
of
the
bonds
that
Metro
is
repaying
for
these
projects
and
and
then
there's
a
portion
of
the
of
the
payment
that
is
related
to
what
we
call
capital
assessments
and
those
are
related
to
capacity
improvements.
As
an
example,
when
pointed
Mountain
water
to
new
point
of
the
mountain
water
treatment
plant
was
constructed,
that
was
an
increase
in
capacity
for
for
the
member
cities
of
Metro,
and
so
the
member
cities
pay.
J
A
pro
rata
share
a
proportionate
amount
of
the
repayment
on
that
and
that's
part
of
what
that
capital
assessment
is
so
and
then
lastly,
just
wanted
to
mention.
Title
transfer
happened
for,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
Salt
Lake
aqueduct
in
2006,
Provo,
River,
aqueduct
in
2014
and
and
the
reason
this
is
really
important
is
it
allows
greater
flexibility
in
I,
think
better
responsiveness
by
metro
and
by
the
Provo
sociation
as
far
as
operations,
maintenance
repair,
all
those
types
of
activities
as
well
as
financing.
J
It
gives
us
greater
flexibility
in
the
way
of
private
bonds
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
it's
it's
been
a
really
good
thing
for
us
to
take
over
ownership.
After
we
made
those
payments
completed
those
payments,
and
then
this
is
from
our
skater
project.
So
I
always
get
a
kick
out
of
this
picture.
So,
but
any
any
questions
about
the
presentation.
A
L
G
G
J
D
J
J
Interestingly
enough
and
I'm
not
sure
if
this
body
is
aware,
but
so
Lake
Powell
is
infested,
and
maybe
that
is
obvious
to
everyone
here,
but
so
that
is
a
paramount
concern
to
metro
and
to
the
Provo
sociation
because
of
boats
that
that
are
used
at
Lake,
Powell
or
even
Lake,
Mead
or
even
Sand.
Hollow
reservoir.
D
J
And
and
then
they
make
their
way
up
to
Deer,
Creek
and,
interestingly
enough,
so
there's
there's
an
aquatic
invasive
species
task
force
that
has
been
put
together
by
I
believe
it's
DNR
that
is
basically
overseeing
and
making
sure
that
that
boat
inspections
and
the
cleaning
of
boats
and
all
those
types
of
things
is
part
of
a
program
to
hopefully
prevent
a
quagga
mussel
infestation
that
Deer
Creek
or
Jordan
L.
Interesting
thing,
though
it
there
was
that,
would
there
worsen,
Bela,
Jers
kind
of
the
the
little
baby
quagga
mussels.
J
If
you
will
that
had
been
identified
in
Deer
Creek
in
a
sample
of
Deer
Creek
water,
how
many
years
back
was
that
I
think
it
was
four
or
five
years
ago,
and
and
so
it
became
a
suspect,
water,
a
suspect
water,
meaning
that
they
had
to
treat
it
differently.
In
other
words,
all
boats
leaving
that
body
of
water
had
to
be
decontaminated.
A
J
Back
to,
but
but
that
hasn't
taken
away
the
importance
of
inspections
and
and
prevention,
so
that's
continuing
to
be
a
hot
topic
and
and
and
then
pushed
by
everybody,
that's
involved
for
metro
and
for
the
probe
association.
If
there
were
an
infestation,
it
would
probably
translate
to
millions
of
dollars
in
capital,
expenses
and
operation
expenses
and
maintenance
expenses.
So
yeah
it's
a
big
deal
and
our.
D
J
Know
we
actually,
as
part
of
the
probe
Association.
One
of
the
things
that's
being
considered
right
now
is
an
intake
that
can
take
water
at
different
levels
in
the
reservoir,
which
would
help
because,
if
one
area
gets
plugged
off,
you
can
start
pulling
from
a
different
area,
while
you're
maintaining
and
cleaning
off
the
different
areas,
so
kind
of
a
multi-level
intake,
similar
to
what
central
Utah
has
Jordan
L.
So
that
is
currently
in
in
a
pre
conceptual
design.
A
A
J
You
appreciate
that
so
the
the
chemicals
chemicals
is
one
savings
element.
The
other
thing
that
Metro
has
embarked
upon
this
year
is
a
power,
efficiency,
study
or
effort
with
Rocky
Mountain
power,
and
so
we're
trying
to
work
with
Rocky
Mountain
Power
to
find
ways
to
pump
at
times
that
save
us
money
and
and
basically
are
more
energy
efficient
and
and
to
do
things
just
in
general,
with
all
our
facilities
and
how
we
manage
them
from
a
power
usage
standpoint
we're
trying
to
find
ways
to
build
efficiencies
there.
J
So
a
couple
of
things
we're
trying
to
do
to
continue
to
save
where
we
can
on
the
operations,
maintenance,
side.
I,
think
another
thing
that's
worth
noting
is:
we
do
have
outside
costs
that
are
a
part
of
our
operation
and
maintenance
expenses,
and
one
of
them
is
noted
there
in
that
paragraph
relating
to
central
Utah.
J
Currently,
our
annual
om
and
our
operations,
maintenance
and
replacement
cost
to
central
is
about
four
hundred
thousand
a
year
in
the
next
four
years
that
will
increase
to
1
million
dollars,
and
so
we've
got
drastic
increases.
It's
a
50%
increase
for
the
proposed
fiscal
year,
2019
budget,
a
33
percent
increase
for
FY
20,
25
percent
for
FY
21.
J
So
we
one
of
the
challenges
we're
having
is
trying
to
manage
our
own
costs
with
some
of
these
outside
cost
are
coming
in
that,
unfortunately,
we
as
Metro
do
not
have
a
seat
of
that
board,
so
we
have
no
governance
in
the
way
of
control
and
input
into
that
budgeting
process.
We
have
met
with
the
leadership
of
Central,
expressed.
J
Our
concerns
tried
to
encourage
them
to
spread
some
of
those
costs
over
a
longer
period
of
time,
but
that
has
met
with
resistance
and
in
a
lack
of
cooperation
and
support,
so
just
wanted
to
share
a
little
bit
really
to
the
OEM
side
of
that
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
of
our
questions
relating
to
the
executive
summary.
If
you
have
any
questions
relating
to
that,
it
does
also
mention
that
three
percent
rate
increase
is
proposed
for
the
upcoming
fiscal
year
and
then
for
the
next
next,
four
years
beyond,
for
a
five
year
window,
three
percent.
D
J
Tom,
do
you
want
to
speak
to
that,
or
do
you
want
me
to?
Maybe
you
should
speak
to
that?
Okay,
all
right,
my
take
from
a
staff
perspective
is
I.
Think
that
okay,
so
so
an
advantage
I
think
is
some
sometimes
getting
a
fresh
view
or
a
fresh
look
at
things
is
not
a
bad
thing.
I
think.
Maybe
a
disadvantage,
though,
is
as
tenure
tends
to
be
respected
in
a
governing
body
right,
so
new
folks
appointed
are
typically
going
before
they.
J
How
do
I
put
this
I
trying
to
be
respectful,
so
sometimes
sometimes
they
when
they
engage
they're
cautious
with
their
engagement,
I
guess
before
you
know,
until
they
understand
all
the
ins
and
outs
of
our
district,
you
know
what
the
operation
elements
are.
What
all
the
different
policy
elements
are.
You
know
all
the
different
parts
and
pieces
of
our
district,
and
so
for
them
to
get
up
to
speed
it
takes
it
takes
a
long
time.
J
Tom
has
been
a
board
member
for
a
long
time
now
and
and
in
obviously
doing
a
wonderful
job
for
us,
but
but
when,
when
you
bring
somebody
in
that's
brand-new,
they've
got
to
start
that
whole
learning
curve
process
and
Sandy
City
will
already
have
the
leg
up
so
to
speak,
because
they
already
have
folks
that
tend
to
be
reappointed
over
and
over
and
over
again.
So
that's
that's
just
one
perspective,
so
I
guess.
D
Q
Q
You
know
I
agree
with
Mike
that
there
are
definitely
pros
and
cons
to
tenure
on
any
board,
and
that
said,
you
know
some
of
the
are
longer
serving
members
such
as
Tom.
Here
are
great
assets
to
the
board,
with
respect
to
institutional
knowledge
and
a
knowledge
of
Salt
Lake,
City,
government
and,
and
so
it
might
might
sometimes
depend
on
the
individuals
serving
as
well.
G
Got
a
question
about
data
on
this:
I
know
that
throughout
the
state
there's
a
question
about
having
enough
or
valid
water
usage
data,
a
lot
of
municipalities
don't
track
very
well
or
districts,
perhaps
I'm
assuming
we
do
well.
But
can
you
help
help
us
understand
from
a
Selleck,
City
and
sandy
perspective?
What
is
right
now
required
of
each
municipality
by
this
entity
or
not
required,
and
how
much
is
left
up
to
the
city
to
determine
how
much
they
track
these
kind
of
water
metrics?
You.
J
Know
I
don't
know
that
I
can
speak
for
the
public
utilities
and
what
their
requirements
are,
but
for
Metro
we
do
have
specific
reporting
requirements
and
we're
very
careful
about
our
data
tracking
and
data
analysis.
In
fact,
the
last
couple
of
times
we've
provided
reporting
to
the
state
and
they've
been
very
complimentary
that
it's
as
comprehensive
as
it
is
I
think
a
lot
of
that's
attributed
to
the
technology
that
has
been
installed.
J
You
know
SCADA
improvements
and
other
things
that
are
allowing
us
to
track
that
data
and
be
able
to
utilize
it
not
just
track
it,
but
be
able
to
utilize
it
in
an
effective
manner
from
a
reporting
standpoint,
but
also
from
an
operations
improvement
standpoint
as
well,
and
so
so
it's
a
little
bit
more
than
what
you're
asking.
But
but
from
our
perspective,
as
far
as
the
requirements
the
state
has
for
Metro,
you
know
the
wholesale
provider
side
of
things
we're
exceeding
what
those
data
requirements
are
so
but.
Q
You're
out
you're
you're
talking
about
different
types
of
water
use,
data
correct
their
cities,
do
have
some
latitude
with
respect
to
the
types
of
water
use
data
that
they
report.
Although
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
interest
at
the
state
level
to
tighten
that
up
across
the
state.
Salt
Lake
City
does
I
think
a
really
good
job
on
tracking
its
water
use
by
category.
J
Maybe
to
add
one
other
thought
related
to
that
conservation.
Efforts
relating
to
central
utah
project
supplies
are
required
based
on
contracts
and
so
we're
also
meeting
the
requirements
of
those
contractual
obligations
that
we
have
conservation
reporting.
To
so
just
add
an
additional
piece
of
information.
L
J
M
M
D
F
A
C
We
had
prepared
a
group
of
tentative
meeting
dates
in
July
to
see
when
the
council
wanted
to
meet
in
July,
since
you
don't
have
to
meet
more
than
twice
necessarily.
The
chair
has
suggested
a
schedule
that
allows
for
you
guys
to
not
have
a
meeting
the
week
of
July
4th.
You
would
have
a
formal
meeting
just
to
fulfill
that
requirement
on
July
10th
and
the
other
one
on
July
31st
and
then
would
have
a
tentative
date
on
July
17th
in
case
you
need
additional
meetings
to
discuss
geo
bond
or
something
so.
A
C
C
A
C
Then
the
other
announcement
is
maybe
just
a
heads
up
that
for
the
budget
season
we're
planning
on
meeting
every
Tuesday
and
we
have
Thursday
dates
listed
as
tentative.
We
don't
anticipate
needing
those,
but
we
have
them
listed
just
in
case.
We
really
need
it,
we'll
let
you
know
as
soon
as
we
know
if
and
when
we
need
it,
but
certainly
plan
on
every
Tuesday,
even
the
last
Tuesday
in
May
just
cuz.
It's
the
only
way
to
get
through
everything
and
then
I
think
the
chair
has
an
update
on
the
jazz
game.