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A
That's
a
quorum,
so
we're
just
gonna
get
started
and
hope.
The
rest
trickle
in
our
very
first
item
on
our
agenda
is
the
public
benefit
analysis
of
disposition
of
real
property
at
320
s,
400
South
and
338
East
400
South,
known
as
the
exchange
I
want
to
set
the
stage
a
little
bit
and
then
we
will
have
David
litt
back
there.
A
But
this
the
uniqueness
of
this
project
has
its
come
together
and
the
way
that
it's
been
processed
has
identified
some
policy
objectives
that
we
don't
intend
to
implement
on
this
project
today,
but
that
we
do
feel
and
the
council
will
have
a
discussion
toward
the
end
of
this
agenda
item.
But
we
do
feel
that
there's
an
urgency
for
us
to
address
these
items
and
council
members.
If
I
could
talk
to
you
for
just
a
moment.
A
B
You
madam
chair
I'd,
like
to
just
make
a
couple
quick
comments.
One
I
I
do
want
to
express
my
appreciation,
madam
chair,
for
your
opening
remarks.
I
also
want
to
express
appreciation
for
the
conversation
that
we
just
had
with
an
RTA
and
share
the
sentiment
that
we,
as
an
administration,
are
looking
forward
to
having
that
policy
conversation
and
some
of
the
learning
that
came
out
of
this
process
and
we're
always
willing
to
improve
that
process
and
to
improve
that
policy.
B
So
we
thank
you
for
highlighting
that
and
look
forward
to
to
working
on
on
that
collaboratively
with
with
the
council
and
with
council
staff.
I
also
like
to
acknowledge
all
the
tremendous
amount
of
work
that
has
been
put
into
this
project,
actually
for
quite
a
long
time
for
the
last
year
and
a
half,
or
so,
with
our
administrative
staff
and
the
council
staff
working
so
hard
on
this
project
as
well.
So
thank
you
I
just
want
to
madam
chair.
B
There's
a
lot
of
benefit
to
this
project
that
we
think
the
public
benefit
analysis
shows
that
outweighs
the
costs
associated
with
it,
whether
it
be
the
affordable
housing,
the
innovative
micro
units,
the
economic
development
incubator
takes
all
that
stuff
which
we'll
get
into
but
acknowledging
how
important
that
deeply
affordable
piece
is
50%.
Ami
in
below
and
I
have
to
reveal
a
little
bit
of
a
bias,
because
I've
kind
of
clung
on
to
one
aspect
of
this
that
I
think
is
obviously
is,
is
very
unique,
has
whole
and
it
may
show
some
another
strategy
going
forward.
B
C
You
Bailey
white
is
gonna.
Help
me
out
moving
through
the
presentation.
I
appreciate
the
time
and
your
attention
for
being
here.
I,
won't
repeat
what
David
said:
I
think
it's
clear
that
we
have
an
opportunity
here
on
this
project
and
and
we're
here
today
because
of
a
public
benefit
analysis.
With
that
in
mind,
this
transaction
is
complex.
There's
no
doubt
about
that.
My
team
is
worked
for
the
better
part
of
a
year
on
this
transaction,
its
challenges
and
its
changes.
C
The
work
has
been
done
with
the
city's
best
interest
in
mind
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
that
we
underwrote
the
project
when
we
underwrote
the
project.
We
first
and
foremost
sought
to
invest
in
an
economically
feasible
and
viable
project,
and
then
we
balanced
the
merits
of
those
economics
of
the
transaction
with
the
public
policy
goals.
C
We
wish
to
achieve
the
terms
of
the
proposed
public
benefit
analysis
or
based
on
a
what
I
would
consider
a
conservative
underwriting
approach,
and
while
the
margin
for
repayment
is
is
slim,
we
are
quite
confident
that
there
is
sufficient
surplus
cash
flow
on
each
part
on
each
parcel
and
we'll
get
into
what
that
looks
like
to
make
the
city
whole,
and
so
we
can
talk
more
about
that.
I
think
just
to
provide
some
framework
there's
a
lot
of
words
on
this
slide.
C
C
That's
here
today
is
the
one
that
was
unanimously
selected,
and
we
are
here,
of
course,
as
a
reminder,
because
of
the
below
market
terms
that
we're
proposing
on
this
transaction
and
they're
focused
on
those
four
areas
that
you
see
above
as
identified
in
the
analysis
you
have
in
your
packet
I
think
I
wanted
to
just
provide
some
context.
One
benefit
we
have
when
we
do
a
request
for
proposals.
Is
we
get
to
lay
out
for
the
community
at
large
public
policy
goals
that
are
important
to
us
in
terms
of
a
development?
C
The
most
recent
two
are,
of
course,
Violin
Commons
and
this
potential
project.
The
exchange.
This
project
is
large.
It's
over
a
hundred
and
seven
million
dollars
in
a
transaction.
The
city's
totally
invest.
Total
investment
is
posed
here
today
is
about
8%
of
the
total
transaction,
while
different
from
Housing
Trust
Funds.
This
is
in
line
similarly
with
the
loans
that
we've
seen
in
the
past.
C
C
There
are
a
few
transactions,
specific
components
that
I
think
are
important
to
call
out
and
the
first
to
kind
of
speak
to
the
need
for
additional
financing
and
the
change
in
construction
costs,
among
others,
and
the
primary
lender,
Freddie
Mac
and
some
of
the
requirements
around
that
the
third
I
think
is
situationally
unique
to
this
project.
As
the
lot
line
was
wrong
in
the
survey
which
ultimately
resulted
in
the
decision
to
purchase
the
ten
feet
needed
to
complete
the
originally
planned
parcel.
C
So,
moving
on
to
the
next
slide,
you
kind
of
see
the
deal
components
that
are
outlay
laid
out
before
you,
the
sources
and
uses
for
the
project.
It
requires
quite
a
bit
more
public
subsidy
than
a
nine
percent
tax
credit
would,
although
we
are
seeing
those
come
back
for
additional
subsidy
because
of
rising
costs.
C
This
is
be
focused.
The
residential,
a
you
should
know
is,
has
a
higher
cash
flow
I
think
we're
at
a
two
point,
one
four
I'm
gonna
look
at
Bailey
to
double
check
that,
for
me,
residential
only
is
about
one
point:
zero,
five
debt
coverage
ratio
and
then
the
B
commercial,
which
is
sort
of
the
incubator
space
we
actually
under
wrote
at
a
seventy
five
percent
occupancy.
C
We
thought
that
was
a
conservative
approach
to
determine
what
kind
of
cash
flow
that
would
be.
Should
they
not
be
able
to
keep
that
at
capacity
and
that
got
us
to
a
one
point:
zero
for
debt
coverage
ratio,
I'm
happy
to
talk
more
about
those
or
some
of
the
analysis
that
we
did
or
the
scenarios.
But,
in
short,
we.
We
believe
that
this
transaction
reaches
both
public
policy
goals
and
economic
feasibility.
C
This
slide
5
is
just
contextual
in
terms
of
consistent
transaction
components.
The
complexity
of
this
deal
merits
discussion
and
certainly
understanding
of
how
these
tools
work
together
and
appreciate.
Council
chair
Mendenhall's
remarks
in
terms
of
guiding
policy
as
we
go
forward
in
the
in
how
that
public
benefit
is
used
together
or
not.
C
You
have
sort
of
a
seller
note
which
is
long-term
financing
of
the
land.
You
have
low
interest
financing,
you
have
long-term
debt
and
then,
of
course
you
have
a
land
write
down.
Pieces
of
these
transactions
are
evident
in
other
transactions
that
we
have
done
via
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
or
recently
Violin
Commons,
together
I
think
they
provide
a
new
transaction
and
I.
D
We
appreciate
being
able
to
present
before
you
guys
today,
since
we're
saving
some
time
we'll
skip
through
a
few
of
these
I
thought.
I'd
take
a
few
minutes
to
just
talk
about
how
this
project
came.
To
be
it's
a
very
unusual
project
for
our
group
to
do
give
development
primarily
does
9%
mixed-income
excuse
tax
credit
deals.
Give
communities
primarily
does
deep
need,
affordable
housing
facilitation
right
now,
we're
doing
two
projects
of
permanent
supportive
housing
with
both
the
VOA
and
the
housing
authority
of
Salt,
Lake
City
and
that's
kind
of
our
wheelhouse.
D
How
many
units
can
we
get?
What
price
points
can
we
get
them
at?
How
many
people
can
we
help
and
over
doing
that?
For
the
last
several
years,
though,
I'm
deeply
proud
of
the
work
we've
been
doing,
it
became
apparent
that
that
just
wasn't
going
to
cut
it
for
our
housing
problem.
The
amount
of
9%
tax
credits
available
in
the
market
in
any
given
year
is
less
than
the
amount
of
population
growth
in
the
state.
We're
gonna
lose
this
battle
unless
we
find
ways
that
don't
require
9%
tax
credits.
D
D
How
can
you
build
something
without
9
percents
and
they
using
funding
sources
that
typically
aren't
tapped
out
which
primarily
for
percents
aren't
and
having
every
year,
there's
there's
mod
allocation
that
isn't
used
so
truly,
if
you
can
build
a
model
that
uses
4
percents,
you
are
adding
units
to
an
overall
market
instead
of
just
robbing
Peter
to
pay
Paul
from
another
part
of
the
state
with
9
percent.
The
second
thing
is:
what
can
we
prove
on
400
South?
There's
a
laundry
list
of
things
that
developers
who
typically
say
you
can't
do
well.
D
You
can't
put
ground-floor
retail
on
the
bottom.
You
can't
really
mix
uses.
You
can't
do
a
high
end
market
project
with
any
affordable.
Otherwise,
your
market
units
won't
be
able
to
be
rented.
So
an
ideal
scenario
would
have
been
one
that
disproves
all
of
that
points
of
those
points
so
that
we
can
get
1/4
South
corridor.
That
has
a
proof
of
concept
that
that
really
makes
it.
D
So
those
sort
of
statements
can't
be
said
with
any
sort
of
validity,
and
the
third
thing
is:
what's
the
appropriate
thing
to
have
as
an
anchor
of
what
is
basically
the
Civic
core
of
Salt
Lake
City?
What
does
it
mean
to
be
right
next
to
the
public
library?
What
does
it
mean
to
be
next
to
the
Public
Safety
Building?
What
do
we
want
here
and
for
me?
Ideally
that
was
something
that
was
massively
available
to
everybody.
D
You
would
have
housing
that
someone
making
a
half
million
dollars
could
use
as
well
as
someone
making
half
of
median
income.
You
would
have
economic
opportunity
for
people
that
might
be
starting
a
new
tech
business
as
well
as
someone
who
might
be
starting
a
new
food
business
where
you
know
they're
coming
out
of
working
in
the
food
industry
themselves
and
don't
have
much
money
and
so
give
kind
of
went
on
a
national.
Looking
tour.
D
We
asked
all
the
finance
years
we
talked
to
and
some
of
our
other
projects
about
who
they
felt
the
best
people
in
the
nation
were
that
we're
doing
this
sort
of
work.
We
came
up
with
three
main
people,
one
of
which
was
domain.
I,
went
ahead
and
had
the
privilege
of
touring
through
some
of
their
New
Orleans
developments,
and
what
struck
me
is,
instead
of
being
a
developer.
D
That
did
one
thing:
they
would
walk
you
through
a
neighborhood
that
had
a
restaurant
next
to
a
grocery
store
next
to
a
high-rise,
condo
development
next
to
a
deeply
affordable
housing
project
next
to
a
boutique
hotel,
all
of
which
they
had
built
because
that's
what
the
neighborhood
needed,
rather
than
building
whatever
it
was,
that
happened
to
fit,
and
they
were
their
wheelhouse
and
just
pounding
that
nail
and
when
I
saw
that
relative
to
the
other
developers.
I
knew
that
we
wanted
them
in
our
market.
D
E
D
The
exchange
project
does
all
of
those
objection
objectives.
Basically,
you've
got
building
a
which
is
the
first
affordable,
affordable
steel,
construction
building
in
the
state.
One
of
the
things
you're
told
you
can't
do
is
build
a
residential
rental
at
anything
higher
than
five
storeys
you're
supposed
to
only
be
able
to
do
that
in
wood.
D
But
we
have
to
find
a
way
to
do
if
we're
gonna
attack
this
problem,
there's
enough
market
rate
units
being
built
in
this
city
in
this
state
that,
if
10
to
20%
of
them,
went
affordable.
If
you
can
prove
that
model,
we
wouldn't
have
a
housing
problem.
So
it
was
important
to
me
that
we
go
ahead
and
prove
that
model
out.
D
This
will
be
probably
the
premier
residential
rental
project
in
the
state
and
if
we
can
prove
that
you
can
add
40
and
50
percent
ami
units
to
that
project
and
still
get
those
rents
the
excuses
for
not
doing
it
go
away.
On
the
ground
floor,
you
have
one
of
my
favorite
aspects:
a
food
space,
it's
basically
a
large
food
hall
that
provides
you
know:
economic
mobility
to
people
starting
a
food
business
instead
of
having
to
spend
a
quarter
million
dollars
to
start
a
restaurant
and
all
the
tooling
and
basically
leverage
your
life.
D
If
you
an
idea
here,
you
can
rent
a
spot
where
everything's
basically
taken
care
of
for
you
for
less
than
a
thousand
dollars
a
month.
It
removes
the
barrier
to
attempting
the
American
dream
for
people
who
typically
don't
have
all
of
the
resources
to
start
a
new
restaurant
and
so
having
the
economic
driver
for
both
low-income
people,
as
well
as
what
you'll
find
in
building
B,
which
is
a
large
incubation
space
for
more
traditional
kind
of
you
know,
tech
and
and
philanthropic
enterprises
that
are
typically
going
to
be
higher
income.
D
So
it's
a
very
unusual
project
for
us,
both
in
size
and
definitely
in
scale,
but
the
reason
we
really
wanted
to
Maine
to
be
a
part
of
it
and
why
we're
really
excited
about.
It
is
the
ramifications
that
come
from
the
project
that
really
have
nothing
to
do
with
this
exact
building.
There's
a
host
of
things
that
Salt,
Lake
and
Utah
generally
need
to
prove
can
be
done
if
we're
going
to
make
real
strides
and
every
single
one
of
those
categories.
So
we're
really
excited
about
it.
Thanks.
A
Chris
and
you
barely
won
over
five
minutes
was
pretty
good.
I
know,
I've
seen
the
slides
of
the
presentation.
You
know,
there's
a
lot
more
information
that
council
members
have
access
to
it's
in
our
paper,
packets,
it's
online
for
the
public
as
well,
and
now
we
can
open
it
up
to
questions
from
Council
members
that
do
you
have
any
questions
for
the
developers.
I
think
this
sounds
like
an
amazing
project,
really
an
amazing
project
and
and
a
focus
very
tuned
focus
on
a
specific
needs.
A
F
D
Basically,
the
idea
is,
if
you
wanted
to
start
a
restaurant,
you
literally
could
walk
in
with
a
dream
and
a
thousand
bucks
and
start
one.
You
could
prove
out
your
your
menus.
You
could
prove
out
whether
or
not
even
the
restaurant
business
is
for
you.
Typically,
that
barrier
is
far
closer
to
a
hundred
or
two
hundred
thousand
dollars,
so
you'll
have
common
seating
in
there
and
you'll
have
you
know
eight
to
ten
restaurants,
it's
kind
of
like
a
food
court
at
a
mall
except
much
higher
end
and
far
more
authentic.
D
E
For
that
reason,
and
it's
part
of
a
whole
complement
of
uses
that
we
program,
ranging
from
that
space
as
the
largest
use
to
the
retail
space
in
building
B,
which
we
designed
with
purposefully
design
with
smaller
Bay's
to
act
as
somewhat
of
incubator
spaces
for
smaller
retailers
or
restaurant
tours.
That
would
be
graduating
out
of
that
space.
Okay,
so.
F
Just
seen
a
lot
of
I've
seen
these
other
I
mean
we
just.
We
saw
this
in
Pittsburgh
just
a
few
a
month
ago,
and
really
the
bar
was
a
big
piece
of
sort
of
activating
the
space
and
that's
my
question
about.
If
that's
a
dependent
piece
of
this,
it's
something
to
think
about
is
in
proximity
to
the
square.
Has
some
other
issues
around
Salt
Lake,
City,
they're,
unique
to
us
yeah.
E
I
think
it's
a
it's
an
important
consideration.
I
mean
we
in
the
in
the
examples
that
we've
seen
done
well,
that
is
a
very
small
component
of
it
and
it's
really
not
the
focus,
really
anything
we've
talked
about
and
how
we've
envisioned
this
space
and
how
we're
thinking
about
programming
yeah
we're
very
cognizant
of
those
types
of
things,
because
we're
really
looking
at
the
whole
development
holistically
and
making
sure
that
you
know
we
don't
want
to
do
anything.
That's
detrimental
to
the
project.
A
D
You
I
have
two
questions,
and
you
touched
on
it
briefly.
Right
now
is
on
the
incubator
space.
If
you
had
your
druthers
since
we
discussed
this
and
for
me
I
hate
to
see
us
invest
in
money
in
some
sort
of
incubator
space,
where
we
have
the
private
market,
that's
competing
against
it.
Do
you
see
that
that
space
is
since
since
its
inception,
can
you
use
that
space
of
something
else,
or
is
it
something
that
you
have
programmed
in
moving
forward
that
you
are
set
on
with
the
incubator,
space
I
think.
E
One
of
the
things
we
did
was
tour
around
the
country
to
a
number
of
different
markets,
particularly
focused
on
markets
like
Seattle
and
Silicon
Valley,
that
had
a
lot
of
that
type
of
activity,
and
we
really
saw
them
being
successful
as
where
they
were
integrated
into
a
larger
platform,
and
so
with
with
our
space.
That's
that's
what
we
did
in
in
the
the
last
one.
We
did.
We
partnered
with
an
incubator
space
called
the
idea
village.
E
It
is
probably
less
than
5%
of
the
total
square
footage
in
the
space,
but
what
what
they
do
bring
is
in
addition
to
all
the
work
they
do
as
an
incubator
or
as
an
accelerator,
they
bring
in
energy
and
an
activity
to
the
space
that
makes
other
tenants
want
to
be
in
the
space,
but
also
attracts
an
ecosystem
of
support
for
that
those
entrepreneurial
activities.
So
it
could
be
angel
networks,
venture
capital
firms,
law
firms,
things
like
that
that
just
want
to
be
around
that
activity
and
that
helps
the
whole
thing
succeed.
So.
E
The
the
the
the
co-working
space
is
a
separately
financed
condominium
within
the
project.
That's
the
way
that
we're
actually
able
to
get
that
capital
into
that
element
of
the
project
and
it
stands
alone
from
the
rents
from
co-working
occupants,
so
small
businesses,
ranging
from
an
independent
individual
freelancer
to
a
six
to
a
person
company,
that's
really
where
the
majority
of
the
income
comes
from.
E
D
I
guess
for
me,
madam
chair,
it's
looking
forward,
I
mean
this
was
a
new
concept.
Incubator
lab
spit,
not
lab
space,
but
incubator
office,
space
or
co-working
space
was
something
new
and
we
started
talking
about
this
and
we
hadn't
had
one
here.
Impact
help
was
the
first
one
I
think
church
and
state,
and
now
we've
got
three
or
four
that
have
come
around
and
gateways
now
opened
another
one
for
them
there.
So
I
guess
for
me:
it's
a
policy
question
at
what
point
in
time.
D
Do
we
say
you
know
we're
not
gonna
fund
this
type
of
business?
That's
already
here
when
we
have
private
industry,
that's
already
funding
that.
So
it's
just
something
for
us
and
look
forward
on
another
projects.
I'm
not
looking
to
change
this
but
I'm
just
talking
as
from
a
policy
standpoint
for
us
as
a
board.
Thank.
A
D
And
then
my
follow-up
question
on
this
is
that,
on
the
second
question
is,
since
we've
seen
so
many
changes
through
this
project
already
with
these
changes
that
move
forward,
how
do
we
know
that
you're
not
going
to
come
back
and
ask
for
something
else?
In
addition
to,
what's
rabin
been
put
on
the
table,
we.
A
D
A
Thank
You
councilmember,
Rogers
I
took
a
note
and
I'm
gonna
I'll,
keep
notes
as
I
usually
do
of
questions
or
concerns
when
we
get
to
the
the
policy
side
of
the
conversation,
but
that
one's
the
first
one
on
the
list
and
as
I
am
about
to
excuse
you,
this
is
a
good
segue.
I
think
counts.
My
Rogers
questions
were
good
because
I
don't
remember
that
being
a
part
of
the
pro
forma
consideration
that
we
saw.
What,
when
you
were
talking
about
the
restaurant
incubator
space,
was
that
part
of
the
financial
pro
forma
that
it.
E
Is
but
it's
it's,
it's
underwritten
at
a
market,
retail
rental
rate,
so
that
the
the
the
project
is
not
burdened
by
additional
expense
or
risk
related
to
related
to
the
operation
of
a
food
haul.
To
take
a
conservative
approach,
we
included
the
you
know
what
would
be
the
market
rate
rent
for
that
retail
space
in
the
project
on
to
writing
so
it
is.
It
is
built
into
the
Proform,
but
as
conventional
retail
space
and.
A
We
in
the
loan
position
are
not
in
any
way
connected
to
the
revenue
that
will
be
generated
from
that
commercial
and
retail
space.
In
other
words,
the
developer
isn't
obliged
to
pay
the
city
back
on
the
housing
components
if
they
aren't
producing
the
revenue,
even
if
the
third
piece
of
that
project
is
making
plenty
of
money,
and
so
I
think
that
we
can
get.
A
We
will
get
into
this
with
the
administration
more,
but
I
think
what
councilmember
Rogers
raised
highlights
that
it
would
have
been
really
helpful
for
us
to
receive
a
consolidated
pro
forma
on
this
project
from
the
developer
instead
of
I.
Think
nine
piriformis
that
we
received
that
makes
it
so
that
councilmember,
Rogers
and
us
have
to
ask
a
lot
of
questions
about
how
the
financing
works.
A
We're
working
on
the
fly
right
now
and
have
been
actually,
as
the
information
has
changed
and
trickled
in
and
actually
not
sufficiently
come
in,
which
is
not
your
fault,
so
I
I
hope
you
feel
the
sincerity
that
I
think
you're
creating
an
exceptional
project.
It's
something!
That's
very
exciting
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
it
happening
here
in
our
city,
it's
also
in
its
in
the
pursuit
of
its
creation,
highlighted
some
a
whole
basket
of
questions
for
as
policymakers
and
and
the
budget
oversight
for
the
city.
A
A
A
So
here
we've
got
a
0%,
0%
and
1.1
percent
that
come
up
to
0.7,
9%
thirty
five-year
term
balloon
payment
and
and
as
we've
seen
as
council
members,
there
are
times
when
those
balloon
payments
come
up
and
it's
a
totally
different.
Council
then,
when
the
loan
was
initiated
and
they
come
back
and
ask
for
forgiveness,
so
it
I
think
none
of
it's
actually
guaranteed,
which
is
something
we
do
all
the
time.
The
housing
trust
fund
wasn't
a
component
of
this,
and
so
there's
some
advisory
and
oversight,
components
that
we're
missing.
A
So
we
might
seal
a
project
that
has
two
of
these
tools
or
three
of
these
tools
in
different
ways
and
the
way
that
this
project
feels
to
me
is
that
there's
been
adding
a
very
creative
combination
of
several
incentives,
and
some
of
those
are
like
the
percentage
rate
are
actually
quite
different,
and
part
of
that
is
the
this
I'm
sorry
for
the
crude
drawing.
But
you
know
we've.
This
is
operating
off
of
somewhat
of
a
lack
of
clear
information.
A
A
Did
he
see
the
pro
formas
did
he
was
he
able
to
do
an
analysis,
or
was
this
an
endorsement
of
support
for
the
efforts
of
hand?
And
it
was
he
made
it
very
clear
that
it
was
the
latter.
It
was
not
an
analysis
or
technical
buy
by
his
opinion
and
then,
additionally,
the
the
the
other
piece
of
analysis
that
I
I'm
I
can't
see.
Even
though
Melissa
Jensen
I
appreciate
you
saying
you're
happy
to
talk
through
the
details.
I
can't
I
am
NOT.
A
Some
of
the
concerns
and
I
bring
these
up
in
an
effort
to
be
clear
with
the
administration
about
where,
where
the
discomfort
is,
where
the
future
policy
considerations
are
going
to
be
stemming
from
and
in
a
hope
that
we
can
talk
about
council
member
concerns.
I
know
my
peers
have
a
lot
of
questions
also
and
I
want
this
to
be
transparent
and
and
not
combative.
But
there
are
some
real
concerns
here
that
make
it
such
that
I
don't
want
to
see
another
application
come
before
us
before.
A
G
We've
seen
the
residential
pro
forma
and
we've
seen
one
piece
of
the
commercial
pro
forma,
but
we've
not
seen
a
Performa
that
talks
about
all
of
the
cash
coming
into
the
project
and
all
of
the
cash
coming
out
of
the
project
and,
ultimately
that's
what
I
would
assume
that
the
budget
and
policy
makers
would
want
to
see.
In
terms
of
does
this
project
support
the
investment,
so
we
that's
that's
just
what
we
haven't
seen
so,
madam.
G
D
A
D
And
then
you're,
looking
at
different
parcels,
doing
different
things.
What
about
the
loan
repayment
of
that?
How
do
you
say?
Okay?
Well,
actually,
this
building,
which
has
a
lot
of
affordable
micro
units
and
it
is
not
making
any
money.
How
are
we
going
to
justify
because
they're
making
so
much
money
on
the
commercial
aspect
of
it?
How
are
we
going
to
say?
Okay,
they're
gonna
make
the
payment
on
this
part
of
the
of
the
the
parcel,
but
not
the
one
that
they've
eliminated.
D
So
for
me,
that's
why
all
these
parcels
need
to
be
one,
so
you
can
actually
not
pick
and
choose
how
you're
going
to
repay
this
debt
or
the
payment
that's
going
to
come
each
month,
so
I
guess
that
would
be
my
first
question
sure
I
know
it's
a
lot.
It's
not
really
questions
more
of
a
red
flag
for
me
and
just
I
want.
C
C
I'm
trying
to
be
thoughtful
and
how
I
answer
this,
so
we
did
a
lot
of
analyses
and
we
when,
when
the
deal
came
in
I,
want
to
be
clear
to
the
developers
benefit,
they
had
always
advocated
for
three
separate
transactions,
and
that
was
a
deal
point
that
was
being
negotiated
and
the
0.79%
interest
rate
as
a
blended
rate
across
all
three
regardless
and
so
I.
Don't
want
to
I,
don't
want
to
say
it's,
not
one
or
the
other.
My
point
is
to
do.
H
So
this
was
not
disclosed
to
us
and,
in
fact,
is
part
of
why
we're
having
a
difficult
time
with
this,
so
we
I
think
the
administration
is
aware
that
we
have
been
asking
for
that
combined
pro
forma
and
that
we
have
been
expressing
concern
and
that
we
understood
that
it
hasn't
come
to
light
in
since
well,
it's
only
come
to
light
since
the
transmittal
was
sent
to
us,
it
wasn't
being
dealt
with
in
it.
Wasn't
in
the
it
wasn't.
The
Attorney's
Office
is
now
drafting
a
new
resolution
that
reflects
it
or
has
already
drafted.
B
H
Think
we
in
council
staff
is
we
deal
in
in
numbers
and
in
facts,
and
when
the
administration
says,
we've
done
a
lot
of
analysis
or
we've
done
our
underwriting.
That
doesn't
help
us.
We
have
to
be
able
to
follow
it.
We
need
to
have
a
transparent
process
where,
if
we
look
at
the
state
programs
or
anything
any
of
the
other
components
of
this
there's
a
transparent
process,
maybe
not
the
private
lending,
but
where
you
can
see
here
was
the
application
here
is
what
was
requested
here
is
here's.
What
the
situation
is.
H
That's
not
available
to
us.
We've
asked
for
a
lot
of
things.
We've
received
a
lot
of
things,
but
we
can't
make
the
tie
between
all
of
the
things
and
I.
Don't
I,
don't
know
that
it's
a
good
idea
to
continue
the
project
I
mean
certainly
it's
a
fabulous
project,
but
it
would
help
if
you
guys
could
examine
whether
it's
absolutely
essential
to
have
three
separate
projects.
Since
that
is
not
what
was
initially
presented.
A
B
C
G
A
Back
to
councilmember
Rogers
point
and
what
you
raised
about
consolidating
those
would
consolidate
the
revenue
and
repayment
into
a
single
contract.
Essentially
not,
and
that
is
what
we're
asking
about.
So
can
you
sorry?
Can
you
repeat
your
specific
question?
Yeah.
You
said
that
if
we
had
one
pro
forma
and
if
we
had
one
project
instead
of
three
separate
transactions
happening
here,
three
separate
sellers
notes,
then
the
revenue
from
one
piece
of
it
would
be
tied
to
the
repayment
of
any
other
piece
of
it
and
I.
A
G
Council
staff,
in
an
effort
to
recognize
that
changing
the
deal
terms
for
the
developer,
this
late
in
the
game
might
not
be
possible
throughout
the
idea,
and
maybe
it's
also
a
non-starter
for
the
developer-
that
the
contract
be
clear,
that
the
cash
flow
created
by
created
by
any
property
referenced
in
the
resolution
be
available
to
available
to
service.
The
seller.
Note
given
to
its
affiliate,
regardless
of
property
origin,
so
rather
than
trying
to
recombine
the
financial
transaction.
G
C
Melissa
in
terms
of
tying
the
surplus
cash
from
another
project
or
from
a
separate
parcel
in
this
project
in
this
project,
what
I
would
say
is
that
I
think
the
financing
that
they
have
lined
up
through
their
primary
financing
letters,
their
equity
investors.
This
would
be
considered
a
serious
material
change
and
I.
Don't
believe
that
developers
would
be
meaningful
to
I
am
NOT
the
developer
I'm.
We
could
most
certainly
have
them.
Discuss
the
steel
point
with
you
directly.
C
A
G
The
next
question:
if
I'm
just
working
my
way
through
page
three
I,
believe
we
discussed
a
little
bit
that
the
incubator
space
to
be
used
for
something
else.
It
sounds
like
the
the
incubator
space
just
from
listening
to
the
developer
I.
Don't
we
don't
have
any
of
the
information
written,
but
that
that
that's
a
sort
of
independently
financed
portion
of
their
project
and
neither
contributes
new
nor
detracts
from
cash
flow,
I,
think
and
I
could
be
wrong.
G
I
think
we
may
have
to
amend
the
public
benefit
analysis,
because
the
public
benefit
analysis
sites,
the
incubator
as
a
drain
on
the
cash
flow,
so
I
think
we
just
need
to
get
clarity
with
the
administration.
Just
based
on
that
information
from
the
developer
is
the
incubator,
a
drain
on
the
cash
flow
and
therefore
requires
a
public
benefit,
or
does
it
stand
on
its
own
unrelated
to
the
cash
flow?
So
that's,
probably
not
for
you
guys
to
spend
your
time
doing.
G
That's
a
better
use
of
sort
of
leveraged
resources
or
if
it's
just
sort
of
shuffling
the
deck
chairs
a
little
bit.
So
that's
just
a
note
going
forward
that
the
council
could
ask
the
administration
to
conduct
a
more
thorough
analysis
of
other
markets
that
are
doing
this
and
what
kind
of
outcomes
they're.
Seeing
with
that
kind
of
approach.
G
H
Johnson,
just
for
the
record,
I
I
respect
what
David
said
at
the
beginning
of
this
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
the
administration
on
the
systems
and
the
policy
issues
so
that
we
can
smooth
those
for
the
future.
But
I
would
like
to
correct
the
record
that
I
do
not
agree
with
what
David
said
about
the
nine
percent
versus
the
four
percent.
A
G
C
Seven
different
projects
that
are
in
competitive
process
for
a
9%,
currently,
some
of
them
you're
familiar
with
255
state,
that's
the
branch
or
State
Street
project
spark,
it's
also
an
RDA
funded
or
the
overnighter.
Thank
you
for
26
apartments.
First
step
house
Escalante
is
Reece
indicating
rehabilitating
capital
homes,
apartments
book,
cliffs,
Lodge
and
diamond
rail
are
the
ones
that
we
have
slated
now,
whether
they
all
get
awarded
or
what
that
looks
like.
C
B
We've
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
comparable
with
violin
Commons
and
so
the
process
that
we
followed
with
the
analysis
here
and
within
the
policy
guidance
and
pollie
framework.
That
current
currently
exists
is
how
we
operated
with
the
analysis
of
the
exchange
and
so
again,
just
to
say,
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
that
we're
looking
forward
in
where
some
of
the
learning
or
improvements
may
be
looked
at
and
not
focusing
on
that's
something.
B
H
J
J
And
so
certainly
it's
important
for
me
to
let
the
developers
know
that
this
is
a
I
like
the
project.
It's
a
good
project
that
that,
as
there's
frustration
from
some
of
us
up
here,
it's
not
that
this
isn't
what
our
city
is
looking
for
and
needing
and
wanting
and
excited
about
and
and
sort
of
this
creativity
to
our
homeless
problem,
but
or
not
having
enough
homes
actually.
But
the
the
process
has
been
frustrating
and
now
I
think
we
are
in
an
opportunity.
J
We
spent
again
as
I
mentioned
in
RDA
this
council
before
the
council
before
me,
spent
a
couple
of
years,
probably
digging
into
the
finances
and
the
processes
behind
the
projects
for
the
RDA
and
I
think
we
have
an
opportunity
to
do
something
similar
with
what
we're
doing
in
hand
of
saying
what
are
the
processes
and
and
what's
happening
here
with
with
that
oversight.
We
so
that
we
can
capitalize
on
the
money
that
we
have.
J
So
we
can
help
make
a
dent
in
the
fact
that
we
don't
have
enough
affordable
homes
in
this
city,
and
we
need
to
move
forward
on
that.
So
a
lot
of
these
questions
that
were
brought
up
today
are
not
necessarily
specific
to,
in
my
opinion,
so
stick
to
this
particular
project.
But
rather
what
is
this
process
in
this
policy
as
we
move
forward
and
look
at
other
projects,
and
it
just
it
seems
like
there's
a
lot
here.
J
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
in
our
staff
report
they
said,
look
at
all
of
the
highlighted
things.
Every
page
here
is
highlighted,
and
that
just
means
we
have
maybe
some
work
to
do
as
a
body
together
to
move
forward
and
really
start
to
make
some
dents
in
this
and
understand
what
programs
we
have
available,
what
tools
we
have
available
and
how
these
different
groups
can
work
together
to
really
move
forward
it
with
our
housing
market.
J
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
before
I
jump
in
I
will
say
that
I'm
supportive
of
the
project
I'm
supportive
and
I'm
not
going
to
work
to
delay
anything
moving
forward,
but
I'm
not
happy
I'm,
not
comfortable
and
I,
feel
like
I'm,
being
backed
into
a
position
where
I'm
you
know,
I'm
being
backed
into
a
corner
and
having
to
rely
on
the
word
of
the
administration
staff
rather
than
you
know
the
standard
process
that
we
typically
go
on.
This
has
nothing
to
do
with
whether
or
not
we
trust
the
administration
staff
or
not.
K
I
think
you
guys
are
all
fantastic
I
think
you
do
good
work,
but
in
the
separation
of
powers
that
we
have
in
the
city,
it
is
critical
that
both
branches
of
government
fully
operate
and
operate
independently
from
one
another,
and
the
reason
that
we
do
that
is
so
that
we
can
ensure
that
we
can
take
as
much
gamble
out
of
these
pry
out
of
these
developments
and
things
moving
forward
as
possible.
There
is
always
going
to
be
some
risk.
Housing
is
risky.
We
you
know.
K
We
understand
that,
but
for
us
sitting
here
at
this
table
to
do
our
job
we
need
to
have
our
our
staff
needs
to
have
all
of
the
data
in
front
of
us
when
in
front
of
them,
so
that
they
can
help
us
work
through
that.
That
is
how
this
works.
It's
not
that
we
don't
trust
you
it's
not
that
we
don't
trust,
trust
your
staff,
but
we
have
to.
K
That
is
the
process
that
we
need
to
move
forward
with
I
I
think
that
this
project
has
the
potential
to
the
developer's
point
of
becoming
one
of
those
developments
that
can
be
a
light
that
other
cities
around
the
state
and,
frankly
the
salt
lake
city,
can
look
at
and
say:
look
you
know
we're
proving
that
we
can
do
something
that
others
have
said
that
we
can't
do
I
like
that.
I,
like
the
ingenuity
and
I
like
that
opportunity,
but
we
need
the
data
in
order
to
for
that
to
move
forward.
K
So,
while
I
hope
that
we
look
at
the
project
and
I
and
I
hope
that
the
project
is
successful
as
we,
we
all
hope
that
it
will
be
and
that
we
can
use
that
as
an
example.
Moving
forward.
I
don't
want
this
process
to
be
used
as
a
formula
on
how
we're
going
to
be
handling
this
stuff
and
I
and
I.
I.
Think
that
you
know
from
what
what
you've
said.
K
I
think
that
you
know
everyone
acknowledges
that
there
are
things
that
you
know
that
can
be
done
better
and
that
you
know
we're
all
committed
to
doing
that.
Moving
forward.
So
I'm
I'm
not
going
to
do
anything
to
hold
this
project
up.
I,
don't
follow
the
developers.
I
think
the
developers
have
been
have
been
doing
things
as
as
quickly
as
on-the-fly
as
possible.
I
think
the
administration
and
and
all
of
your
stabs
have
been
doing
the
same
thing.
K
I
think
you're,
do
you
know
you're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
make
this
work
and
being
creative
and
then
bullet
and
flexible,
and
as
a
council
we
are
nimble
and
flexible
as
well,
but
we
have
to
have
data.
We
have
to
have
the
information,
because,
if
we
don't
it
puts
us
in
a
position
where
you
know
we're
being
accused
of
acting
reckless,
and
that
is
not
something
that
I
take
lightly.
K
And
so
you
know,
I,
think
that
you
know,
as
a
council
I
would
hope
that
we're
you
know
willing
to
work
through
that
I
believe
you
know
from
the
administration
that
you're
also
willing
to
do
that.
So
that
would
that
would
be
the
strap
hold
that
I'd
like
to
put
forward
now
and
that
and
that
we
have
that
group
meet
as
quickly
as
possible,
because,
as
as
Melissa
mentioned,
there
are
a
number
of
things
in
the
pipeline.
Right
now
and
I
don't
want
to
have
this
kind
of
a
meeting
again.
A
F
A
F
A
A
L
Something
that
really
stuck
out
for
me
from
our
last
briefing
briefing
was
the
lack
of
input
from
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
Advisory
Board,
and
we
talked
about
how
the
you
know.
There
was
some
disagreement
about
the
semantics
of
the
name
and
whether
they
it
was
necessary
for
them
to
weigh
in
I.
Think
we've
talked
among
ourselves
about
expanding
the
authority
in
the
role
of
that
body
to
just
being
a
housing
advisory
board
in
general
and
I.
L
L
Thank
you.
That's
what
I
was
getting
out
so
I
will
propose
that
that,
in
the
interim,
until
we're
able
to
amend
the
ordinance
that
we
ask
that
Housing
Trust
Fund
Advisory
Board
issue
an
opinion
on
on
all
of
the
projects
that
we
have
that
are
going
to
come
before
this
before
they
come
before
this
body.
B
A
Everything
yeah
all
of
it,
every
we'll
see
at
this.
We
have
rack
but
RAC
didn't
analyze
all
of
the,
how
the
hand
components
of
this
project-
and
there
was
a
there-
was
an
RDA
piece
of
this
pie,
but
they
didn't
look
at
everything,
that's
on
the
table
today,
so
it's
not
I
can't
say
if
the
RDA
is
involved,
we've
got
it
taken
care
of
because
they
don't
I'm.
C
C
H
C
Don't
know
that
there
are
any
the
prime
both
of
these
transactions
see
I
would
say
violin
comments
and
the
exchange
are
huge
land
parcels
that
are
developed,
and
so
I
would
imagine
that
the
impact
of
doing
that
is
very
nominal.
I
mean
most
of
what
we
would
anticipate
coming
forward
is
Housing
Trust
Fund
loans,
the
loans
that
we
saw
in
the
nine
percent
tax
credit
competitive
process.
Those
would
be
funneled
most
likely
through
housing,
trust
fund.
L
I'm
not
visioning,
like
the
the
mortgage
situation
that
you
talked
about,
but
you
think
of
it
from
I.
Just
ask
you
to
consider
it
from
our
perspective
like
things
that
are
going
to
come
before
the
council.
My
first
question
is
going
to
be
well
among
my
first
questions
is
going
to
be
what
has
been
the
recommendation
of
that
board.
So
yeah,
okay,.
A
L
F
B
I
mean
you
can
speak
more
specifically
to
the
developers.
I,
don't
ask
more
questions
of
the
developers
in
terms
of
the,
but
that
was
several
months
ago
when
we
first
approached
council
staff
about
a
deadline
or
things
that
we
felt
needed
to
be
get
done
by
the
end
of
the
year
was
based
on
the
financing
and
what
the
developers
were
indicating.
The
needs
are
in
terms
of-
and
you
heard
it
today
in
terms
of
finalizing
the
financing.
C
F
G
H
We
do
when
we
get
to
a
situation
like
this,
and
we
try
to
never
get
to
a
situation
like
this.
In
fact,
I've
only
had
a
few
in
my
career
here
at
the
city
is
that
we
switch
to
just
simply
making
disclosures
for
the
public
record.
So
all
all
we're
going
to
do
from
here
on
out
is
to
try
to
list
what
we
know
what
we
don't
know
what
what
what
the
public
should
be
aware
of
that
that's
all
we
can
do
at
this
point.
G
I
think
there
are
some
fundamental
disagreements
in
the
approach,
and
maybe
those
disagreements
came
from
not
flagging
the
concerns
early
enough
in
the
negotiation
process
with
the
developer
and
so
I
think
the
primary
concerns
I'm
seeing
are
things
that
are
too
late
to
negotiate
with
the
developer.
Well,.
F
G
H
G
H
Know
that
it
was
intentionally
removed,
so
we
either
missed
that,
but
I
or
whatever,
but
we
didn't
know
that
until
today,
knowing
that
today,
I
mean
knowing
that
knowing
more
about
that
only
matters
if
there
is
a
strong
desire
on
the
part
of
the
council
to
try
to
get
the
developer
and
the
administration
to
agree
to
putting
something
in
the
contract
that
requires
the
revenue
from
all
of
the
pieces
to
be
considered
in
the
repayment
of
the
loan.
So
if
that's
the
direction
you
want
us
to
go
in,
we
can.
H
F
I
mean
I've
got
to
vote
on
it
next
week,
I'd
like
to
know
some
of
the
specific
rationales
personally,
okay,
as
its
closing
to
the
public
or
justifying
the
public
or
both
or
different
things,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I've
got
a
vote.
I
have
to
stand
up
and
say
why
I
voted
for
it
or
not,
and
the
details
are
probably
going
to
matter
for
me
frankly.
F
So
if
there's
things
that
we
haven't
gotten
it'd
be
helpful
for
me,
personal
to
the
justification
about
well,
for
instance,
I
understand
that
the
need
for
more
capital
if
you're
going
to
4%.
Why
attack
that?
It's
clear
to
me?
The
question
is
one
of
the
demands
were
made
about
who
gets
paid
first
repaid
first
in
these
situations.
F
How
did
that
come
about?
Why
are
we
in
the
positions
we
are?
Those
kind
of
questions
are
interesting
for
me
to
understand
that
and
then
the
details
about
the
the
things
he's
brought
up
earlier
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
questions
about
the
the
spaces
separating
into
three
different
financing
terms,
and
why
that
happened.
Exactly
I
mean
those
are
the
questions.
People
are
gonna.
Ask
me
right:
I,
mean
I,
know
all
the
answer,
but
I
needed
some
basic
information
that
can
help
me
sort
of
direct.
Does
that
make
sense.
F
B
G
F
Right,
why
was
beneficial
in
some
capacity
to
split
it
into
three
different
properties?
Good
I
saw
that
B's
right,
but
the
details
when
someone
asked
me
well,
why
did
they
split
in
three
I?
Don't
know
the
developer.
Did
it
right?
We
just
did
our
part
in
the
financing
piece,
but
those
details,
kind
of
helped
me
understand
a
little
more
about
why
I
would
vote
to
support
it
versus
another
project
which
may
not
do
that?
Does
that
make
sense.
A
A
So
we've
got
councilmember
Johnston
talking
most
recently
about
disclosure
and
justification
and
I
think
by
that
you
meant
disclosure
to
the
council
and
therefore
the
public,
around
separation
of
the
notes
and
some
of
the
other
financing
decisions
that
seem
to
be
initiated
by
the
developer
and
accepted
by
the
administration.
We
need
the
justification
for
that
exception,
as
it
relates
to
public
financing.
A
So
sustainability
is
the
question.
Charlie
Luke
did
a
straw
poll
around
a
working
group,
council
staff
and
council
leadership
working
with
the
administration
to
address
all
of
the
questions
that
we've
raised
tonight
and
that
are
raised
in
the
staff
report.
Councilmember
Amy
Fowler
talked
about
getting
clear
around
timeline
and
expectations
for
transmittals
and
information
shared
between
the
branches.
Here,
councilmember
Rogers
brought
up
the
question
around.
A
Should
we
be
subsidizing
incubator
space
going
forward,
I
think
that's
whether
or
not
we'll
let
the
workgroup
decide
whether
or
not
that's
a
piece
of
their
analysis
or
if
that
comes
back
to
the
council
or
the
RDA,
which
probably
should
for
future
discussions.
We
also
talked
about
clarity
of
expected.
I
already
said
that
public
benefit
analysis,
citing
the
incubator
as
a
drain
and
whether
or
not
we
need
to
clarify
that
public
benefit
analysis,
that
it
is
neither
a
cost
nor
a
benefit
which
I
think
raises
the
question
about
the
public
dollars
supporting
the
project.
A
If
that
isn't
a
gap
and
then
that
there
I
mentioned
that
I'm,
not
supportive
of
any
future
projects.
Before
we
address
these
issues,
although
I
do
I
wrote
that
down
before
we
got
to
the
creation
of
the
work
group
and
the
Housing
and
Trust
Fund
Advisory
Board
reviewing
any
projects
in
the
pipeline,
so
I'll
withdraw
that
last
one.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
miss
Jensen
and
mr.
Litvak
and
miss
Bruno
for
being
with
us.
It's
a
hard
conversation,
but
it's
a
necessary
one
and
we'll
get
through
it.
We're
gonna
move
on
to
the
second
item
on
our
agenda:
the
budget,
amendment
number
2
for
fiscal
year,
1819
follow-up
and,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
the
only
real
conversation
that
we
may
or
may
not
need
to
have
remaining
on
this,
as
if
there's
any
conversation
about
the
East
Side
Police
Precinct
acquisition
that
the
council
members
want
to
have.
This
could
be
a
very
short
conversation.
Also
Ben.
L
This
is
the
fourth
briefing
on
the
general
fund
budget.
Amendment
number
two:
the
council
held
public
hearings
on
November
13th
and
on
November
27th.
At
the
last
meeting
on
December
4th,
the
council
talked
about
using
vacancy
savings
on
three
separate
items
and
expressed
support
for
all
three,
that's
reflected
on
the
motion
sheet
for
your
potential
action
tonight.
A
L
So
the
handout
you
have
in
front
of
you
is
a
quick
analysis
that
council
staff
put
together.
This
is
in
response
to
council
member
questions
related
to
the
cost
of
a
bond
for
an
Eastside
Police
Precinct,
compared
to
the
number
of
officers
that
could
be
hired
for
the
same
price
over
the
same
time
period.
What
you'll
see
on
the
first
column
is
the
years
then
you'll
see
the
bond
payments.
L
The
third
column
is
the
total
annual
cost
per
officer,
using
the
estimates
that
we
previously
worked
on
last
year
when
the
council
dove
into
adding
additional
officers.
So
we've
used
those
costs,
updated
them
for
the
current
fiscal
year,
and
then
we've
listed
each
of
those
costs
in
its
own
column.
Further
on
the
right-
and
there
there
are
some
they
are
added
together
in
the
total
annual
cost
per
officer
and
I
also
want
to
point
out
on
the
very
far
right
column
are
costs
that
are
not
included,
so
this
is
not
comprehensive.
L
A
L
A
This
is
really
helpful
perspective
on
the
values
that
were
we're
trying
to
balance
in
a
way
here.
In
the
conversation,
I
would
like
to
invite
I
see
chief
brown
in
the
audience.
Also
as
a
sergeant
captain
tearling
I
know
nothing
of
what
the
ranks
mean
so
I
apologize
if
I
spoke
below
your
level
Scott
it's
right
there
about.
I
A
N
N
N
Right,
so
what
we
did
is
we
we
have
driven
from
the
Pioneer
precinct.
We
have
driven
from
the
downtown
PSB
in
the
main
area
that
we've
been
looking
at
was
always
the
the
sugarhouse
statue
on
11th
east
there
and
21st
South
different
times
of
the
day
from
different
locations.
I
think
it
would
range
anywhere
from
2025
minutes
from
the
Pioneer
precinct
to
maybe
1820
minutes
from
downtown,
so
it
it
varies,
but
it
still
was
a
substantial
amount
of
time
and
then
captain
tear
link
has
gone
back
and
Scott.
N
Maybe
you
explain
a
little
bit
of
how
you
reached
because
we
talked
about
we
go
to
lineups,
we
go
to
line
downs,
we
travel
through
the
communities
we
go
to
the
beach
we
patrol,
but
we're
always
commuting
back
and
forth,
and
there
are
operational
efficiencies,
and
so
Scott's
done
some
background
work
as
and
some
polling
of
officers
about
how
many
times
they
actually
go
to
the
precinct.
So
Scott.
You
want
to
explain
that
a
little
bit.
Yes,.
D
So
I
actually
pulled
the
patrol
captains,
particularly
the
Liberty
captain,
since
it
would
be
mostly
his
area
where
this
would
be.
The
operational
efficiency
would
be
in
talking
with
the
officers
just
pulling.
We
determined
that
about
two
to
four
trips
on
a
given
shift,
so
we
already
know
that
we
start
line
up
at
a
police
building
and
then
we
drive
to
our
area
to
Patrol
and
the
officers
are
assigned
their
various
areas
when
they
take
a
call.
If
it
has
anything
to
do
with
evidence,
they
need
to
go
back
and
book
that
evidence.
D
If
it's
a
DUI,
they
need
to
go
back
and
process
that
DUI.
If
they
want
to
take
lunch
at
the
station
rather
than
in
there.
They
drive
back
to
do
that.
So
we
just
said
on
average
how
many
times
as
a
patrol
officer
are
you
driving
back
and
forth
between
the
buildings,
and
they
said
between
two
and
four
per
shift.
D
D
Were
looking
at
that
as
just
the
Liberty
officers,
so
if
we
take
just
the
officers
that
are
assigned
to
Liberty
right
now,
we
take
a
hundred
of
those
officers
that
are
assigned
to
Liberty
Patrol
Division,
that's
their
areas
up
in
that
area.
So
when
they're
on
Patrol,
what
now,
when
they
take
a
call,
it
may
be
wherever
they're
they're
responding
to
to
take
the
call,
but
whenever
they
book
the
evidence
and
then
they
go
back
out
they're
responding
to
their
area
for
that
area
of
Patrol.
Okay,.
D
With
those
six
trips,
if
we
just
estimate
that
it's
about
20
minutes
per
trip,
the
six
trips
would
add
up
to
two
hours
on
a
ten
hour
shift.
So
that's
20%
inefficiency
of
just
commuting
back
and
forth.
Now
those
are
just
rounding
numbers
again.
Some
some
trips
might
be
further
up
on
the
east
side.
Some
might
be
closer
to
the
downtown
area.
I
didn't
we
didn't
take
anything
into
account
on
where
they
were
coming
from,
on,
which
particular
calls.
D
That
would
be
too
extensive
for
how
short
of
a
time,
but
in
just
pulling
the
officers
of
how
many
trips
they're
making
back
and
forth
and
knowing
that
that
time
could
be
spent
patrolling
the
neighborhood's
as
opposed
to
just
commuting
back
and
forth,
is
just
an
operational
efficiency.
We
already
have
really
good
locations
for
for
downtown.
D
N
F
Thank
you
for
this
been
and
and
chief
and
it's
hard
to
sort
of
verify
any
of
this.
We
know
that
I
appreciate
the
effort,
though
it
makes
a
big
difference
in
trying
to
put
something
tangible
in
front
of
us
to
say.
Here's
a
balancing
test
between
two
options:
I
appreciate
the
effort,
I'd
love
to
see
as
much
as
this
as
possible.
It
helps
sort
of
frame
it
for
me
to
bring
in
all
the
other,
less
quantifiable
pieces
of
this
discussion
and
put
some
context
to
them.
So
I
appreciate
the
work.
Thank
you
thank.
O
F
A
L
A
Great
I
think
that
the
I'm
looking
at
our
action,
we're
set
to
take
action
on
this
budget
amendment
tonight
and
if
we
proceed
with
approving
the
three
point,
five,
seven
million
to
facilitate
the
development
of
the
Eastside
Police
Precinct
and
acknowledging
that
the
administration
is
still
in
pursuit
of
a
property.
I.
Wonder
if
we
can
hear
from
whether
it's
you
chief
or
someone
else
in
the
administration
about
when
un
tiss
be
coming
back
to
the
council.
With
information
such
as
the
results
of
due
diligence
on
any
given
property,
is.
N
D
Councilmembers
good
evening
right
now,
excuse
me
with
this
budget
amendment
we
will
proceed
and
rapid
search
for
an
appropriate
property.
We've
talked
about
one
parcel
already
in
closed
session,
some
unique
qualities
to
that.
With
your
approval
tonight
we
will.
We
will
engage
further
on
that
piece
of
property
and
those
conversations
there.
D
There
is
some
unique
issues
associated
with
that
that
we
would
probably
come
back
to
you
very
quickly
with
to
talk
about,
because
I
think
there
would
be
unusual
terms
associated
with
purchase
agreement
with
that
just
because
of
the
nature
of
that
parcel
and
what
we
would
have
to
do
in
that.
So,
if
we
pursued
that
and
that
made
sense,
we'd
come
back
pretty
soon
and
talk
to
you
about
the
uniqueness
of
that
deal.
We.
A
Appreciate
that
and
we'll
we'll
accommodate
any
requests
for
that
meeting
and
update,
as
we
know
that
the
cost
of
such
a
precinct
will
be
much
more
than
this
3.5
million
that
we
are
set
to
set
aside
night
and,
of
course
the
council
will
be
involved
in
that
financing.
So
we
look
forward
to
learning
more
as
you
go
down
the
path
assuming
that
we
pass
this
budget
amendment
tonight.
Thank
you,
Thank
You
counsel,
thank
you
for
being
with
us.
I
think
you've
been
also
for
your
analysis,
any
other
questions.
A
Council
members
on
this
budget
amendment
before
we
put
it
to
rest
as
I
said
we're
set
to
take
action
tonight.
This
tape
brings
us
to
our
grant
applications.
Briefing
and
omigosh
were
right
on
time.
That's
amazing
that
we've
got
45
minutes
to
go
through
these
there's
some
pretty
interesting
things
and
we
should
have
Sylvia
Richards
from
council
office
thanks
for
being
with
us,
Sylvia
been
led
key
and
then
I
know
that
we
have
a
number
of
people
from
different
areas
in
the
city:
Becker
Ralph,
Tom,
Miller,
Julian,
Sabula,
Louis,
Cogan
and
David
Litvak.
I
I
Second,
three
of
the
grants
are
proposing
to
use
up
to
120
thousand
dollars
for
studies
rather
than
actual
Street
projects.
Third,
the
nine
line
application
proposes
a
three
hundred
thousand
dollar
match
for
the
city
sales
tax
funding
and
is
for
infrastructure
improvements
and
amenities
and
not
studies.
I
Fourth,
the
administration's
proposal
for
use
of
the
city
sales
tax
may
have
evolved
and
be
different
from
the
council's
earlier
budget.
Discussions
about
the
use
of
those
funds
and
the
administration
has
some
information
to
share
and
update
the
council
on
some
of
these
items
and
so
they're
prepared
to
answer
any
of
your
questions
of.
I
Lastly,
this
round
of
grants
is
a
one-time,
unique
opportunity,
beginning
in
fiscal
year,
twenty
the
county
quarter,
cent
sales
tax
increase
will
be
distributed.
Zero
point:
ten
percent,
two
cities,
zero
point,
ten
percent
to
UTA
and
then
zero
point:
oh
five
to
the
county.
So
with
that
I
think
it
would
be
easiest
to
address
the
transportation
grants
and
also
the
administration
has
a
PowerPoint.
So
if
we
do
the
transportation
grants
first,
it
would
be
addressing
one
number
one
number,
one
two
and
three
and
then
five
six
and
seven.
I
A
And
I'm,
assuming
back
or
that
maybe
Becca
will
be
hearing
from
you,
also
on
the
nine
line
but
I
wonder
before
we
get
into
the
each
of
the
trends
or
the
each
of
the
project.
Applications.
If
you
could
just
tell
me
about
these
one
pagers
that
we
have
obviously
they're.
Very
very
brief:
is
this
what
was
submitted
to
the
county
or
to
the
the
entity?
That's
reviewing
the
applications
or
is
this
created
for
us
and.
P
A
A
M
M
M
P
So
these
funds,
as
you
may
all
be
aware,
but
I'll
articulate
it
just
to
make
sure
everyone
knows
as
part
of
the
Salt
Lake
County
fourth-quarter
sales
tax
fund,
so
separate
from
the
Salt
Lake
City
sales
tax,
there's
also
the
County
sales
tax,
the
fourth
quarter
or
the
last
piece
of
a
penny,
and
these
funds
will
ultimately
have
the
distribution
that
was
previously
described.
This
first
year
is
a
little
different
and
it
does
stay
entirely
with
the
county.
P
The
initial
intent
of
Salt
Lake
County
was
to
spend
all
of
that
funding
for
this
year
on
paying
down
debt
and
they
changed
their
mind,
and
so
we
suddenly
learned
that
there
were
grant
opportunities
and
the
fund
is
much
larger
coming
through
them
this
year,
then
it
will
be
in
the
future.
So
that's
just
basic
context.
Our
intent
was
to
look
at
places
that
we
had
already
identified
to
spend
funds
and
to
maximize
those
funds
just
by
leveraging
this
opportunity.
P
What
has
sometimes
happened
in
the
past
is
that
we'll
have
projects,
we
know
we
want
to
do
they
get
funded,
and
then
we
do
the
planning
kind
of
afterward
and
have
to
match
the
planning
to
the
funding.
We're
hoping
to
avoid
that
in
this
instance,
because
we
do
have
a
lot
of
projects
in
the
queue
so
I
hope
that
provides
just
a
basic
context.
A
Thank
You,
Juliana
and
I
think
as
you
go
through
them,
some
some
of
them
there
were
required
matches.
Some
of
them
are
points
given
if,
as
you're
alluding
to,
if
there
is
a
optional
match
offered,
and
some
of
them
talked
about
the
sales
tax
dollars
around
our
curb
to
curb
our
streets
infrastructure
that
we've
committed,
and
so
as
you
go
through
I
think
we
want
to
know.
Part
of
what
we
want
to
know
is:
where
did
this
project
line
up
in
the
document
that
the
public
has
around?
You
know
that
point
in
time.
A
M
I
just
I
hope
this
will
provide
additional
clarity
so
for
the
Salt
Lake
County
transportation
choice
funds,
there
was
actually
no
match
required
for
ell
ability
eligibility
to
receive
grant
funds.
They
required
identification
of
quote-unquote
match
dollars
to
receive
points
in
a
certain
section.
If
you
wanted
to
do
that,
but
if
you
did
not
have
match
dollars,
you
could
still
be
eligible
for
those
grant
funds.
So
that's
one
point
of
clarification.
The
second
point
of
clarification
is
that
in
every
one
of
these
circumstances,
what
we
did
was
we
looked
at.
M
Where
were
we
already
going
to
spend
sales
tax
dollars?
And
how
could
we
just
identify
those
funds
in
that
area
so
that
we
could
get
the
points
so
that
our
application
would
be
more
competitive?
What
we
did
not
do
is
shift
sales
tax
dollars
from
something
that
it
wasn't
going
to
go
towards
to
this
as
match.
I
know
that
that
gets
confusing
because
they
use
the
term
match
and
it's
written
in
the
application.
What
we
were
doing
is
leveraging
dollars
that
would
already
be
spent.
So
I'll
give
you
an
example:
wait.
A
I
need
you
to
I
want
to
orient
you
to,
even
if
we
just
go
to
the
nine
line
application
so
there's
the
box
that
says
match
or
leveraging
funds
yes
and
like
on
this
one.
There
is
one
point:
eight
million
dollars
there,
but
the
box
isn't
checked,
which
makes
me
think
there
wasn't
a
match
required
and
then
I
go
to
the
next
application
for
life
on
state.
That
box
is
checked
and
there's
money
there.
Also
so
yeah.
A
M
I
will
I
will
explain,
and
this
is
just
so,
as
Julianne
explained,
we
got
notification
of
these.
This
grant
opportunity
kind
of
at
the
last
minute
and
it
was
a
very
short
burn,
and
so
what
we
did
was
we
sort
of
did
a
divide
and
conquer
approach
in
terms
of
assigning
different
people
to
work
on
certain
grants,
and
so
the
way
that
we
described
those
dollars
in
those
different
applications
was
different
depending
on
who
was
doing
that
grant
application.
M
So
using
the
term
match
versus
leverage
just
had
more
to
do
with
the
person
who
was
filling
it
out
than
anything
else,
because
the
county
used
the
term
match
and
again
match
was
not
required
to
be
eligible
for
any
of
the
county
dollars.
It
was
required
to
receive
points
in
a
certain
section,
but
it
was
not
a
requirement
to
receive
funds.
So
while
we
checked
that
box
because
we
did
have
funds
identified
that
we're
gonna
be
spent
in
that
area
to
count
as
match,
we
didn't
reallocate
money.
M
So
it
might
be
helpful
if
I
give
an
example,
so
21st
South
will
be
doing
bus
stop
improvements.
That's
one
thing:
we're
gonna!
Do
we'll
spend
far
more
than
$40,000
on
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
first
last
mile
improvements
we'll
spend
far
more
than
40-thousand
on
that
will
be
doing
planning
and
design
work
will
be
spending
far
more
than
40-thousand
on
that.
M
So
I
hope
that
that's
helpful
and
clarifying
I
realized
that
yeah
we've
made
a
mistake
with
our
language
and
we
weren't
consistent
about
the
way
that
we
we
did.
That
and
all
I
can
say.
Is
we
were
working
really
quickly
to
get
those
in,
and
we
just
weren't
consistent
in
our
language
on
some
of
that?
Okay,.
A
M
Minh
today,
it
could
have
actually
already
happened
while
we
were
sitting
in
this
room,
so
those
recommendations
went
to
the
County
Council
today
and
they
had
an
opportunity
to
vote
on
it
or
not.
I'm,
not
sure
what
has
happened.
I'll
check
on
that
when
we
leave
here
as
please
I
can
tell
you
this.
We
did
quite
well.
We
are
many
of
our
applications.
Scored
very
high.
Five
of
them
were
recommended
for
funding.
M
That
is
very
specific
to
Salt
Lake
City,
that
we
need
and
we're
saving
bond
money,
because
now
the
county
is
paying
for
work
that
we
would
have
otherwise
had
to
do
to
prep
for
those
projects.
So
in
particular
we
should
be
very
proud
of
that
application,
as
well
as
all
the
others.
But
this
is
what
we're
supposed
to
do.
M
A
O
It
implements
the
nine
line
as
we're
rebuilding
the
street,
rather
than
as
an
afterthought,
there's
also
an
existing
section
between
Guardsman
Way
and
air
peen,
known
as
the
Sunnyside
trail,
and
then
another
funded
section
from
air
peen
to
the
western
entrance
of
this
is
the
place
Heritage
Park.
So,
as
you
can
tell,
there
are
a
lot
of.
There
are
a
lot
of
existing
existing
sections
and
they're,
also
a
lot
of
sections
that
are
going
to
be
built
in
the
very
near
future.
O
One
of
the
principal
gaps
in
perhaps
the
most
densely
populated
section
of
the
nine
line
is
the
the
section
of
of
the
nine
line
that
we
applied
for
funding
to
the
county
and
that
is
between
sixth
west
and
Lincoln
Street,
excluding
the
two
central
ninth
blocks
that
have
already
been
funded
for
those
central
nines
streetscape
improvements
and
because
the
capital
funding
was
already
available
for
those
improvements.
We
did
not
include
them
in
the
funding
asked.
So
the
amount
of
money
that
came
together
and
and
the
amount
requested
wasn't
just
pulled
out
of
a
hat.
O
It
came
out
of
the
the
nine
line.
Trail
extension
study
that
the
the
city
has
been
working
on
for
several
years
and
luckily
the
the
cost
estimates
included
a
nice
section
west
of
the
central
ninth
area
and
a
nice
section
east
of
central
ninth
area.
So
we
really
didn't
have
to
do
too
much
math
other
than
to
say
that
to
put
in
a
new
construction
year,
because
the
construction
year
in
the
plan
or
the
study
itself
was
2018.
O
So
we
assumed
a
conservative
2021
construction
year
assuming
it'll
take
some
time
to
to
plan
our
sorry
to
design
that
facility
and-
and
that's
where
we
came
up
with
that
money.
You'll
see
on
the
on
the
slide
on
the
on
the
television
on
the
top
right-
and
this
goes
to
the
question
earlier-
about
match
versus
leveraged
funds.
So
we
estimated
a
total
of
about
seven
point:
1
million
dollars
to
build
the
entire
thing,
both
the
nine
line
and
the
proposed
reconstruction
of
900
south
through
the
grant.
O
And
so
what
we
told
the
the
grant
funders
was
that
Salt
Lake
City
is
already
planning
to
spend
a
couple
million
dollars
on
rebuilding
this
road
and
also
a
couple
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
transit
improvements.
And
what
we
want
to
do
is
get
all
of
those
funds
together
and
and
do
them
as
efficiently
as
as
we
possibly
can
and
be
able
to
implement
the
nine
line.
The
transit
improvements
for
the
new
nine
route
and
improve
pavement
conditions
for
900
South
itself.
O
I
believe
that
this
was
the
the
funding
application.
If
I
can
say
this,
that
I
was
most
excited
about,
because
okay
good,
because
it
is
just
such
a
critical
gap
in
in
the
nine
line
if
we
are
to
build
the
the
sections
that
are
funded
it'll
still
remain
as
this.
This
critical
somewhat
downtown
located
section
and
so
I
think
that
this
is
a
huge
opportunity
to
do.
Do
goodbye.
Our
word
in
saying
that
we
were
gonna,
improve
conditions
through
the
bond
in
the
sales
tax
and
also
pardon
me
implement
the
the
study.
A
L
A
A
B
P
This
one
is
Folsom.
We
we
switched
up
the
order
a
little
bit
just
so
we
wouldn't
have
to
keep
swapping
people
talking.
Okay,.
O
Trail
great
the
Folsom
trail,
as
you
may
be,
familiar,
was
funded
through
UT
A's
Tiger
grant,
and
it
has
a
lot
of
cost
efficiencies
in
designing
and
building
the
project.
All
under
one
contract,
that's
administered
by
the
Utah
Transit
Authority,
the
amount
that's
allocated
in
the
tiger
grant
to
the
Folsom
Trail
is
enough
to
get
us
some
Street
crossings
to
get
us
the
asphalt
ribbon
of
trail
and
perhaps
to
get
us
some
minor
improvements
to
the
aesthetics
along
the
trail.
A
Do
council
members,
do
you
want
to
start
ranking
your
favorite
projects
just
kidding,
we'll
see
how
they
stacked
up
all
right?
Thank
you.
Where
do
you
want
to
go
next?
Oh
number
two.
P
Okay,
so
life
on
state
life
on
state
is
one
that
is
not
sales
tax
related
I
should
just
mention
up
front.
It
is
a
project
that
we
just
recently
completed.
In
fact,
there's
still
a
project
website
life
on
state
comm
that
describes
the
study
that
we
just
did.
It
was
an
implementation
plan
or
I
guess
implementation
study
for
the
corridor.
We
got
pretty
detailed
on
a
land
use,
toolkit
and,
and
then
we've
since
done
some
additional
analytical
work
on
the
transportation
components
of
it.
P
It's
pretty
complex
from
a
transportation
standpoint
in
part
because
it's
a
state
owned
facility,
but
it's
with
in
Salt
Lake
City
boundaries.
This
project
specifically,
is
a
combination
of
study
funds,
additional
study
funds.
There
were
certain
items
we
identified
as
needing
needing
further
study,
and
this
primarily
relates
to
parallel
corridors
as
well
as
construction
funding
of
a
couple
of
catalytic
sites
within
Salt
Lake
City.
This
is
roughly
around
the
Sears
site,
so
from
about
600
to
800.
P
South
is
what
we
are
looking
at
and
we
have
a
very
concept
level
design,
but
essentially
it
really
focuses
on
the
goal
of
pedestrian
safety,
pedestrian
first
making
it
an
environment,
that's
safe,
but
that
also
generates
some
economic
vitality
and
in
a
sense
of
security
having
people
around.
It's
also
a
good
thing
from
that
perspective
and
we'll
look
at
some
of
the
connections
to
State
Street
from
within
these
study
areas.
P
So
you
can
kind
of
see
these
lines
on
the
map,
full
study
area
and
we're
in
partnership
with
South
Salt
Lake
on
this
particular
project,
as
we
were
on
the
implementation
study,
so
you
can
see
on
the
map
the
study
area,
the
photo
that
you
see
just
shows
a
before-and-after
rendering
of
what
would
look
like.
Potentially
after
the
improvements
at
the
catalytic
site
area.
That's
within
Salt,
Lake,
City,
the
South
Salt
Lake,
just
for
informational
purposes,
is
about
2100
south
to
streetcar
line.
Can.
A
P
P
One
of
the
things
that
we
identified
in
looking
at
these
routes
and
switching
things
around
making
them
more
direct
making
them
more
frequent
is
the
need
for
some
layover
space.
There
are
a
whole
bunch
of
levels
at
which
you
can
provide
layover
space
from
just
a
place
to
pull
over
on
the
side
of
the
street
and
even
a
temporary
restroom
facility
to
something
far
more
substantial,
like
the
underground
facility
in
Denver,
and
so
there's
a
whole
range
of
things
that
you
can
do.
P
We
anticipate
doing
something
that's
phased
over
time
and
takes
into
account
that
this
is
really
a
whole
station
area.
It's
right!
It's
right
in
the
vicinity
of
a
big
RTA
project,
that's
worth
coming,
and
so
what
we
want
is
for
this
to
really
be
a
place
on
the
west
side,
in
addition
to
just
serving
the
needs
of
transit
operations,
and
so
in
our
conversations
about
what
this
should
look
like
from.
What
do
we
need
to
do
in
2019
for
transit
to
function?
P
P
The
funding
that
is
identified
here
again
is
noted
as
leverage
funds
we
know
we
have
to
spend
at
least
a
small
amount
if
on
nothing
else,
a
porta
potti
for
this
area.
So
hopefully
we
can
do
something
better
than
that,
but
this
gets
us
in
place
just
to
be
able
to
do
the
transit
improvements
that
we
have
planned.
Thank.
I
I'm
Becca
Ralph
and
I'm
with
the
Salt
Lake
City
transportation
division
as
active
transportation
planner,
and
there
are
two
applications
that
I
am
presenting
on
tonight.
One
is
the
Greater
Mill
Creek
sugar
house
circulation
plan
that
is
essentially
an
update
of
the
2013
sugar
house
circulation
plan
that
was
done
by
the
city,
but
this
incorporates
our
neighbors,
and
so
we
have
them
in
alphabetical
order
in
order
to
be
fair,
Holliday,
Mill,
Creek
and
South
Salt
Lake.
If
you
look
at
the
map,
you
can
see
I've
kind
of
provided
a
red
circle
around
there.
I
Their
town,
centers
and
notably
the
new
designated
town
center
of
Mill
Creek,
is
only
about
a
mile
south
of
sugar
house
so
living
in
this
area.
Myself
I
find
that
often
my
weekend
errands
consist
of
going
back
and
forth
between
those
two
sections
of
town,
and
so
we
want
to
look
at
how
that
transportation
system
functions
for
everyone,
who's,
making
those
types
of
connections,
and
then
then
the
city
center
of
South,
Salt
Lake,
is
only
a
couple
miles
to
the
west
and
the
designated
town
center
in
Holliday
is
just
a
few
miles
to
the
south.
I
So,
looking
at
those
all
together
as
a
system
while
focusing
on
the
key
corridors
within
Salt,
Lake
City
that
we
are
planning
to
reconstruct
as
part
of
the
bond
funds
or
as
part
of
other
funding
sources
such
as
a
recently
awarded
Wasatch
Front
Regional
Council,
surface
transportation
plan
grant
for
13th
east.
So
this
would
take
a
look
at
transportation.
Broadly
looking
at
alternatives
for
transit,
as
well
as
the
details
of
how
the
Mill
Creek
I'm,
sorry,
the
the
Mill
Creek
Trail
and
the
McClellan
trail
might
make.
I
Connections
to
you
can
see
that
there's
a
couple
green
lines
indicating
the
the
McClellan
trail
and
the
Mill
Creek
Trail.
The
total
project
is
anticipated
to
be
a
million
dollars
with
Salt
Lake
City,
proposing
to
put
forth
a
$40,000
toward
the
match
points
from
the
sales
tracks,
transit
improvements.
I
A
I
I
You
so
we
have
applied
for
that.
This
funding
source
through
the
county
was
40
million
dollars
in
total,
and
so
we
applied
for
I
think
it's
a
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
through
the
W
FRC
funds,
because
that
doesn't
have
as
much
funding
in
it
total.
So
we
couldn't
apply
for
this
large
of
a
project
from
that
funding
source
because
they
just
don't
have
that
as
much
funding.
Thank
you
another.
M
Important
component
I
wanted
to
point
out
and
I
sort
of
alluded
to
this
earlier.
We
will
be
doing
a
lot
of
work
on
street
designs,
specifically
on
the
streets
that
we
are
going
to
be
reconstructing
as
part
of
the
bond
list
and
again
this
is
a
way
for
us
to
get
that
planning
and
design
work
done
and
paid
for
essentially
with
County
dollars,
rather
than
having
to
use
Salt,
Lake,
City
dollars
or
bond
funds.
To
do
that,
and
that's
about
four
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
of
this
total
cost
is
to
do
that.
M
Work,
and
so
that's
just
it's
just
another
really
important
example:
I.
Think
of
how
we're
able
to
leverage
these
county
funds
to
help
us
get
the
work
done
that
we
already
need
to
get
done
anyway
and
save
us
from
having
to
spend
other
dollars
that
we
can
now
allocate
to
other
other
projects.
Councilmember
Lucas.
K
K
K
P
J
Part
of
my
district,
so
that's
a
problem.
Yes,
I!
It's
exciting
that
we
will
have
a
train
or,
whatever
you
know,
I'm
joking.
We
may
be
getting
public
transportation
with
in
sugarhouse.
It's
concerning
that
document,
we've
put
together
and
I.
Don't
I
would
like
to
know
where
that
particular
circle
can't
information
came
from.
This
has
nothing
to
do.
I
I
A
K
P
P
K
Well
and
Mill
Creek
can
show
whatever
they
want
to
show
on
their
website.
Salt
Lake
City
needs
to
be
very
clear
on
our
website
and
any
document
that
we
put
forward
because
the
issues
are
real
and
I
understand
that
you
know
that
we
want
to
get
this
done
and
then,
for
you
know
transportation
again.
This
is
that
this
has
nothing
to
do
with
this
project.
K
J
H
To
move
on,
okay,
just
one
quick
thing,
and
that
is
that
it
isn't
based
on
the
perception
of
Mill
Creek
or
the
perception
of
Salt
Lake
City,
it's
based
on
the
legal
boundaries
of
Salt,
Lake
City
and
the
legal
boundaries
of
Mill
Creek.
So
whatever
documents
you
do,
please
have
them
reflect
the
legal
boundaries.
Okay,
let's.
A
L
A
I
I
On
to
second
South,
which
also
features
an
oval
circle
which
does
not
propose
to
expand
the
boundaries
of
the
street
second
south,
we
have
submitted
a
funding
application
to
again
do
a
study,
planning
design
preliminary
engineering
and
to
develop
some
architectural
concepts
for
200
South
as
a
transit,
focused
corridor
and
and
including
a
downtown
transit
hub.
It's
a
four
hundred
thousand
dollar
project,
the
design
of
which
is
to
be
determined,
as
it
is
indeed
a
planning,
a
design
project,
but
we've
provided
a
couple
illustrations
of
what
other
cities
have
done.
I
One
example
is
from
Seattle
and
that
shows
some
bus
islands
where
bus
boarding
occurs
and
then
bike
lanes
tucked
behind
the
bus
islands.
The
other
example
that's
provided
is
a
in
Street,
Transit,
Center
and
that
was
constructed
in
Burlington,
Vermont
and
so
tucked
into
their
narrow
little
New
England
Street.
They
found
space
to
have
a
place
that
you
can
have
a
bus
station,
an
indoor
place
to
wait,
heated
and
buses
pull
up
on
both
sides
and
it
really
serves
as
a
downtown
transit
hub
for
them.
R
Thank
You
councilmembers
Benham
chair
all
right.
This
Judy
you
active
transportation
project,
was
also
submitted
to
the
Salt
Lake
County
transportation.
Choice,
fund
and
I
want
to
point
out
I
believe
you
have
in
your
packets
a
slightly
different
number
for
the
the
request
amount.
We
made
a
last-minute
reduction
as
we
were
budgeting
for
this
project,
so
I
believe
your
packets
say
1.95
million.
We
ended
up
requesting
about
one
point:
five:
five
million
this
this
project
looks
to
make
some
substantial
improvements
to
the
Bonneville
shoreline
trail.
R
We
say
zoo
to
you
really
really
between
emigration,
Canyon
and
Poppleton
Park
or
dry
creek.
This
is
based
on
the
the
trail
counts
that
we've
done.
This
is
the
most
heavily
used
section
of
the
Bonneville
shoreline
trail
in
Salt,
Lake
City,
the
emigration
Canyon
unofficial
trailhead
alone,
frequently
sees
more
than
400
trail
users
a
day,
and
we
haven't
done
enough
research
to
know
exactly
how
many
are
headed
for
the
the
foothills
trail
system
and
how
many
are
using
the
Bonneville
shoreline
trail
is
commuter
access,
but
we
know
that
there's
substantial
numbers
of
both
folks.
R
So
so
what
we
were
hoping
to
do
with
this
project
is
make
use
of
a
substantial
amount
of
funding
available
from
the
county
and,
to
some
extent,
cell
improvements
to
the
section
of
the
Bonneville
shoreline
trail
as
an
active
transportation
project
helping
commuters,
while
at
the
same
time
helping
recreation
users.
We
were
looking
at
some
pretty
costly
improvements
to
formalize
the
trailhead,
the
mouth
of
emigration,
Canyon
and
also
looking
at
some
trail
grade
and
erosion
issues
along
the
entire
length
of
the
BST
there
between
emigration,
Canyon
and
popper
ton
Park.
R
R
R
A
R
A
L
R
That's
right,
so
the
there's
kind
of
a
spaghetti
bowl
of
trails
that
it
is
considered
the
BST
on
the
on
the
South
slopes
or
on
that
kind
of
lower
slopes
of
Mount
van
cot,
and
something
that
we
wanted
to
do
as
part
of
this
project
is
clean
that
up
and
make
it
very
clear
what
is
the
main
BST?
What
commuter
should
be
using,
but
but
part
of
cleaning
up
the
trails
on
Van
Caudill,
so
it
was
associated
with
our
larger
Foothill
trail
system
plan
right,
okay,.
P
R
R
A
Update
from
the
County
Council
folks
in
the
audience,
anybody
it's
too
much
to
ask
we'll
just
look.
Thank
you
fantastic
and
we
can
actually
hold
our
breath
on
that
one
because
it's
so
eminent
the
information
just
kidding.
Well,
these
are
exciting
projects.
We
hope
to
have
some
of
this
new
county
transportation
dollars,
and
we
understand
that
as
time
goes
on,
that
pool
of
funding
will
remain
restocked
from
the
new
fourth
quarter
edition.
So
we,
if
we
don't
get
it
this
time,
we
can
look
forward
to
future
applications.
A
I
A
David
Litvak
that
would
be
great
to
have
you
come
up,
yeah
and
I.
Don't
know
about
my
peers.
In
my
online
packet,
the
I
have
the
homeless,
shelter
cities
mitigation,
grant
application
from
Utah
Department
of
Workforce
Services,
but
it
does
not
have
any
information
on
it,
so
it
could
have
been
a
technical.
Apparently
Chris
has
some.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
I'll
be
some
I'll,
be
brief,
and
quick.
Last
year,
didn't
legislative
session.
Senator
Davis
ran
legislation
that
created
a
mechanism
whereby
the
state
collects
funding
from
all
cities
that
do
not
host
a
qualifying
shelter,
which
is
defined
by
statute.
That
funding
is
collected
by
the
state
and
goes
into
a
city's
mitigation
fund.
B
60%
of
the
funding
that
has
collected
statutorily
goes
to
South,
Salt,
Lake
and
Midvale
for
public
safety
needs
associated
with
their
their
resource.
Centers
40%,
then,
is
competitive
bid
process
grant
process
for
qualifying
cities,
of
which
Salt
Lake
City
is
one
of
them.
Unbeliev,
there's
five
and
Public
Safety
Department
Public
Safety
is
also
eligible
for
that
grant.
We
applied
for
two
hundred
and
seven
thousand
dollars
received
about
two
hundred
and
six
thousand
dollars.
B
The
purpose
of
the
grant
is
for
mitigation
around
the
new
resource
centers,
but
we
decided
to
apply
for
was
an
effort,
a
pilot
project,
to
assist
us
with
community
engagement.
The
request
has
three
FTEs
associated
with
it
that
will
be
contracted
with
outside
entities
and
one
that
would
be
a
city
staff.
B
One
is
will
be
contracted
with
shelter
the
homeless
that
will
provide
a
staff
person
for
one
for
both
has
one
individual
who
will
serve
both
resource
centers.
That
will
be
housed
at
the
resource
centers,
whose
primary
responsibility
is
in
gate,
active
engagement
with
the
community
residents,
businesses
and
such
do.
B
A
B
B
A
B
B
Yeah
shelter,
the
homeless
will
be
responsible
for
putting
that
board
together,
I
envision
that
that
that
role
will
be
an
integral
part
of
that,
whether
they
will
staff
it
or
not,
I
think
will
be
a
decision
of
shelter
to
the
homeless.
Okay.
The
second
component
of
the
city's
mitigation
fund
request
for
Salt
Lake
City,
was
a
outreach
worker
with
Volunteers
of
America,
specifically
to
do
outreach
to
unsheltered
individuals
within
a
half-mile
radius
of
both
resource
centers.
Now
one
of
the
policy
questions
is:
why
did
we
focus
there
because
we're
being
the
answer?
Simple?
B
That's
that's
our
focus.
Our
focus
is
mitigation
around
the
new
resource
centers,
and
so
we
see
outreach
and
working
with
individuals
experiencing
homelessness
that
are
resistant
for
multiple
reasons
to
accessing
the
resource.
Centers
as
a
critical
component
of
the
success
of
the
resource
centers,
and
so
we
wanted
to
have
VOA
is
where
the
outreach
teams
exist
and
we
wanted
to
have
an
individual
specifically
designated
for
the
two
communities
surrounding
the
resource
centers.
B
The
third
component
was
to
help
make
sure
that
one
that
we
had
the
staff
capacity
to
actively
manage
the
contracts
with
the
to
providers.
Organizations
and
also
make
sure
that
there's
a
tight
link
and
working
relationship
between
the
city
processes
and
the
work
of
these
two
individuals,
and
so
in
the
grant.
We
apply
for
one
FTE
for
Salt
Lake
City
to
be
that
single
point
of
contact
for
the
Community
Engagement
Team.
Thank.
A
B
All
but
$800
so
two
hundred
six
thousand
dollars
we
were
awarded
last
month.
It
was
submitted
I,
don't
remember
the
deadline,
but
late
September.
The
funding
itself
does
not
become
available
until
July
1,
so
its
funding
for
the
new
fiscal
year,
but
because
of
the
way
the
state
homeless
coordinator
committee
has
to
allocate
it
that
they
did
the
grant
application
process
now.
Great.
B
A
L
A
clarification
for
the
council,
the
line
item
for
capital
improvements
along
frequent
transit
networks
that
was
improved
as
part
of
the
annual
budget
started
at
one
point:
1
million
dollars-
if
all
four
of
the
grants
that
you've
heard
about
tonight
that
proposed
to
use
some
of
that
funding
as
matching
are
awarded
that'll
bring
down
the
line
item
to
700,000
and
you'll
also
be
hearing
about
uses
for
that
related
to
the
interlocal
agreement
with
UTA,
which
will
be
brought
next
month.
So
that
line
item
has
a
lot
of
interest
in
it.
Okay,.
L
Last
thing
is
the
funding
our
future
website.
If
any
of
the
grants
are
awarded,
that
would
be
the
location
to
communicate
to
the
public.
What
that
increased
sales
tax
revenue
was
going
to,
and
so
we
would
be
happy
to
use
some
of
the
material
the
administration
provided
in
the
presentation
to
put
up
on
the
website,
so
the
public
has
access
to
it
to
see
where
the
dollars
are
going.
That's.
A
Excellent
and
they
we're
done
with
the
map
all
right.
Thank
you.
Both.
We
have
just
one
more
item
council
members
on
our
agenda
and
that's
the
open
space
signs
owning
text
amendment
which
we
have
discussed
before
on
November
13th.
We
got
a
public
hearing
that
night.
Also
we
held
a
public
hearing
on
December,
4
I'm.
Sorry,
we
set
the
public
hearing
on
November
13th.
A
A
L
L
A
L
A
L
F
Based
on
your
map,
I
know
before
we
heard
that
it
wouldn't
necessarily
have
anything
comparable
anywhere
else
in
the
city.
Is
that
still
hold
true?
Are
there
specific
properties
right
now
that
would
be
affected
by
this
potentially
or
specifically
I'm?
Looking
at
I-80
and
201
I
guess.
Are
there
properties
that,
because
they're
privately
owned
or
absolutely
on
it
could
in
the
future
be
affected
by
this?
Yes,.
L
And
we
didn't
necessarily
find
any
new
ones.
I
mean
these
are
ones
we'd
already
identified,
and
so
those
same
structures
like
along
I-80
would
be.
You
know
the
Country
Club.
If
something
in
Fairmont
Park
was
built,
it
was
large
or
the
Foristell
golf
course,
for
example,
and
those
weren't
new
examples,
but
for
privately
owned
parcels
of.
L
L
But
they'd
have
to
find
a
use
that
meets
that's
in
a
permitted
use
in
the
open
space
zone
and
they're
very
limited,
so
they're
limited
things
like
golf
courses,
outdoor
recreation,
museums,
things
of
that
characteristic.
So
yes,
technically,
if
the
Airport
Authority
wanted
to
build
a
museum
for
example,
or
something
other
than
they
could,
they
would
be
subject
to
those.
J
L
L
A
H
A
J
A
H
Did
you
we
do?
I
am
not
sure
if
you
were
notified
of
this
earlier,
but
I
did
notice
an
email
from
the
administration.
Today
around
noon,
there's
a
a
it
looks
like
a
community
meeting
or
a
stakeholder
meeting
on
the
fleet
block
progress.
They
will
be
making
a
presentation
tomorrow
at
5:00
p.m.
and
the
location
is
picture
line.
350
west,
700,
South.
H
and
then
there's
a
little
bit
of
detail
and
in
an
email
from
Melissa
at
12
just
just
before
12.
Today,
okay,
then
we
have
vacancies
on
two
legislative
committees
with
the
pending
resignation
of
councilmember
Derek
kitchen,
and
our
policy
is
silent
on
how
to
fill
a
vacancy
if
the
person
resigns
from
the
council.
So
our
policy
does
say
that
the
subcommittee
is
made
up
of
the
council
chair,
the
RTA
Board
Chair,
plus
a
third
council
member
selected
by
the
council,
the
terms
run
from
April
until
the
end
of
the
next
legislative
session.
H
Excuse
me
through
the
end
of
the
legislative
session.
So
and
then
it
also
says
if
a
council
member
to
first
defer
serving
on
the
subcommittee,
another
council
member,
will
be
appointed
with
the
council's
advise
and
consent.
So
that's
the
first
vacancy
is
the
City
Council
subcommittee
and
Derek
is
serving
as
the
RDA
chair.
The
second
vacancy
is
the
Utah
League
of
cities
and
towns.
They
have
a
policy
body
that
meets
any
elected
official
can
attend.
But
in
order
to
have
a
vote
you
must
be
a
designee
that
is
documented
by
your
city.
H
K
H
You,
okay
and
then
I
skip
this
one,
the
review
of
the
2019
calendar
that
is
included
there
and
there
are
there's
one
thing
we
want
to
draw
to
your
attention
and
that
is
on
the
selection
process
to
fill
the
district
force
slot.
This
was
on
the
last
time
you
receive
this
calendar,
but
just
bringing
to
your
attention
meetings
on
the
24th
29th
and/or
31st
as
part
of
the
selection
process.
Now
it's
possible
that
you
won't
need
all
three
of
those
but
we're
pretty
sure
you'll
at
least
need
that
first
one.
H
So
with
that,
we
did
make
the
changes
that
you
discussed
last
time.
Would
you
like
to
give
us
go
ahead
on
that
calendar?
Or
would
you
like
to
take
some
more
time
we?
We
can
get
your
okay
next
Tuesday,
if
that's
easier
for
you,
and
you
also
have
the
right
to
change
it
during
me
here
so
you're
not
signing
in
blood
come.
H
All
right,
then,
the
item
D,
the
council
internal
policy
on
filling
a
vacancy
on
the
City
Council.
We
haven't
used
this
policy
in
a
very
long
time
and
there
have
been
state
law
changes
since
had
since
this
policy
was
drafted,
and
so
what
staff
has
done
is
yet
advice
of
the
attorney's
office
and
then
has
gone
through
and
taken
out
the
things
that
are
not
allowed
anymore
under
the
law
or
are
unclear.
So
if
you
would
like,
you
can
spend
some
more
time
with
this.
H
What
what
mostly
happened
is
that
the
state
law
made
it
much
more
transparent.
It
was
pretty
transparent
before,
but
there
was
an
opportunity
for
the
council
to
go
into
executive
session,
to
discuss
the
character
or
professional
competence
etc
of
candidates,
and
that
that
is
not
an
option.
It
the
whole
process
of
being
in
public.
So
I
don't
know
if
you've
had
a
chance
to
review
that
if
you
received
it
in
enough
time
or
if
you
want
to
hold
on
that
one,
we
are
guided
by
the
state
law
at
this
point.
A
M
S
Shinta
Salt
Lake
City
government
on
this
week's
episode
we
hear
from
Salt
Lake
City
firefighter
Virginia
Dickenson
about
her
experience.
Fighting
the
woolsley
fire
in
Southern
California
and
our
history
minute
is
about
the
eighth
installment
of
our
history
of
rail.
Let's
get
started
with
our
legislative
update
and
look
back
at
its
November
27th
meeting
the
City
Council
recognize
council
member
Derek
kitchen
for
three
years
of
service
on
the
City
Council
and
two
years
of
leadership
on
the
redevelopment
agency
kitchen
will
leave
January
2019
to
begin
serving
in
the
Utah
State
Legislature.
S
The
council
was
also
briefed
on
the
potential
for
the
city
to
host
a
future
Winter
Olympics
to
learn
more
visit,
SLC
council
dot-com.
For
the
first
time
ever,
the
United
Nations
global
communications
NGO
conference
is
coming
to
Salt
Lake
City
in
August
of
2019
mayor
B,
scoopski
United
Nations
officials,
along
with
local
dignitaries,
announced
plans
to
host
the
68th
annual
conference,
focusing
on
empowering
sustainable
communities.
Next
year's
conference
will
showcase
Salt,
Lake
City's
work
to
help
lead
the
way
on
global
issues.
S
S
In
early
November,
a
devastating
fire
ravaged
the
Southern
California
area
of
Thousand
Oaks
and
nine
Salt
Lake
City
firefighters
were
deployed
to
help
assist
with
the
woolsley
fire,
including
firefighter
Virginia
Dickinson.
On
this
week's
Capitol
City
news
episode,
we
hear
her
story
and
what
it
was
like.
My.
Q
Name
is
V
Dickinson
I'm,
a
firefighter
with
Salt
Lake
City
Fire
Department
I've,
been
on
the
job
now
coming
up
on
two
and
a
half
years,
so
still
very
new
to
the
the
career
that
I
graduated
with
a
BA
into
the
recession
spent
seven
years
in
sales
and
realized.
I
didn't
want
to
my
life,
making
somebody
else.
Q
Money
I
needed
to
have
more
purpose
in
life
and
I
actually
went
to
a
public
safety
career
fair
at
the
the
Public
Safety,
Building
downtown
and
the
firefighters
said:
hey,
you
should
be
a
firefighter
like
that's
a
really
good
idea,
so
I
tested
I
went
through
the
process
and
Here
I
am
and
I
like
I
said
I
can't
imagine
doing
anything
else.
I
I
know
that
this
was
what
I'm
supposed
to
do.
Is
we
start
watching
the
news
you
hear
about
these
fires?
Q
You
kind
of
her
carrier,
and
then
you
know,
especially
as
camp
fire
crew
as
Woolsey
crew.
You
knew
that
there
was
a
possibility
that
we
could
be
sending
a
team
and
I
got
the
phone
call
from
the
chief
he
said.
Are
you
willing
to
deploy
tomorrow
to
go
to
California?
Said
absolutely
I
want
to
help
I
want
to
I
want
to
go.
Do
my
part
and
I
know
that
every
single
one
of
us
feels
that
way.
We
took
two
apparatus
and
nine
members
from
Salt
Lake
City
and
we
were
part
of
the
Utah
task
force.
Q
Q
The
the
command
scale
when
you
get
to
camp
is
a
huge
learning
experience,
but
it
was
overwhelming
you
get
there
and
there
are
engines
from
Texas
from
Montana
from
Utah,
and
then
you
see
just
how
many
Cal
Fire
engines
there
are
and
that
they're
calling
it
for
help
with
the
resources
that
they
have.
It's
it's
a
very
powerful
experience.
Q
My
favorite
part
about
being
a
firefighter
is
the
family.
You
you
live
sleep
eat,
go
into
dangerous
situations
with
your
crew
and
that
extends
to
any
agency.
When
you
go
out
and
you're
you're
assigned
a
task
force
or
you're
assigned
a
division
with
different
people
and
people,
you've
never
met
before
it
doesn't
matter,
they're
your
brothers
and
sisters,
and
you
feel
that
camaraderie
you're
one
tiny
little
cog
in
a
huge
machine,
and
it's
just
this.
This
common
cause,
everybody's
fighting
for
the
same
goal,
I
feel
so
grateful
that
I
was
I
was
picked
to
go.
Q
I
was
on
that
list.
It
was
a.
It
was
an
immense
learning
experience
for
me,
especially
being
somebody
so
new
on
the
on
the
job.
You
know
when
you
flip
on
the
news
in
the
morning.
You
see
all
of
the
bad
things
that
happen
out
there.
The
natural
disasters,
the
the
human
disasters,
the
all
of
the
negativity
in
the
world,
and
it
was
really
important
for
me
as
I,
made
this
career
change
as
I
stumbled
into
this
career.
That
I
wanted
to
be
part
of
the
good
guys.
Q
T
As
soon
as
eh
Harriman
took
control
of
the
Salt
Lake
streetcar
system,
he
began
updating
the
trains,
modernized,
the
maintenance
shops,
powerlines
plants
and
everything
else.
Harriman
then
commissioned
a
state-of-the-art
facility
to
house
and
maintain
his
ever-increasing
fleet
of
streetcars
as
the
new
home
of
public
transit
in
Salt
Lake
City
Herriman
chose
a
10
acre
plot
of
land
on
the
east
side
that
had
been
set
aside
by
Brigham
Young
as
the
10th
Ward
square
then
designated
in
1889
as
the
official
territorial
fairgrounds
by
1902.
T
It
was
too
small
to
be
used
in
that
capacity
and
was
abandoned.
Harriman
scooped
it
up
and
constructed
the
massive
building
that
we
know
today
is
Charlie
square.
This
building
could
hold
a
hundred
and
forty-four
double-truck
streetcars.
He
was
divided
into
four
massive
bays
with
four
tracks.
Each
208
skylights
provide
the
light
for
the
building,
because
fire
was
always
a
risk.
Herriman
included
the
now
iconic
50,000
gallon
water
tower
to
the
plans
hoping
to
keep
the
entire
operation
self-sufficient
in
an
effort
to
remain
completely
independent.
S
Thanks
for
watching
another
episode
of
capital
city
news
be
sure
to
tune
in
next
time
to
stay
up
to
date
on
all
the
latest.
Now
through
December
Salt
Lake
City
is
hosting
the
35th
annual
holiday
craft
market,
be
sure
to
get
out
and
do
your
holiday
shopping.
The
local
way
for
details
visit,
Salt,
Lake,
Arts
org
for
SLC
TV,
I'm,
Poonam,
Kumar,
signing
off
from
the
Public
Safety
Building.
S
Thanks
for
joining
us
for
SLC
TV,
Salt
Lake
City's
government
access
channel,
the
holiday
season
is
upon
us,
and
so
is
the
countdown
to
find
the
perfect
gift
for
your
loved
one.
On
this
week's
episode
of
Capitol
City
news,
we
hear
from
Laura
Fritz
the
director
of
Salt
Lake
City's,
Economic
Development
Department
about
Small
Business,
Saturday
and
shopping
local,
and
our
history
minute
is
about
renowned
painter
and
sculptor
Allan
Houser.
Let's
get
started
with
our
legislative
update
and
look
back
at
its
November
13th
meeting.
S
N
T
The
northeast
corner
of
Washington
Square
is
a
bronze
statue
of
a
Native
American,
offering
a
pipe
up
to
the
sky.
Hundreds
walk
by
it
daily,
but
few
know
its
story
and
even
fewer
realize
it
might
be
one
of
the
most
important
works
of
art
on
display
in
all
of
Salt
Lake
City.
It
was
sculpted
by
Allan
Houser,
a
Chiricahua
Apache
painter
sculptor,
an
illustrator
who
was
born
in
1914
in
passed
away
in
1994.
T
His
first
major
commission
was
a
pair
of
murals
inside
the
main
interior
building
in
Washington
DC,
alongside
artists
like
Maynard
Dixon
and
William
dropper
in
1949,
Hauser's
art
earned
him
a
Guggenheim
Fellowship
in
sculpture
and
painting
afterward.
He
accepted
a
job
teaching
art
in
Utah,
the
Intermountain
intertribal
school
for
the
next
11
years.
In
1985
he
presented
the
United
Nations,
with
a
bronze
sculpture
called
offering
of
the
Sacred
Pipe.
In
1992
he
became
the
first
Native
American
to
receive
a
National
Medal
of
the
Arts.
May
we
have.
T
Peace
was
the
reason
for
his
last
visit
to
Washington
DC
before
his
passing,
where
he
presented
the
bronze
sculpture
to
then
First
Lady
Hillary
Clinton
for
installation
at
the
vice
presidential
residence,
but
in
2002,
as
the
Olympics
came
to
Salt
Lake
City,
the
Allan
Houser
estate
loan
19
works
of
art
for
display.
During
the
event
the
Salt
Lake
foundation
made
it
their
goal
to
acquire
permanently.
This
casting
of
the
important
statue
other
castings
of
may
we
have
peace
are
placed
in
major
museum
collections
around
the
United
States,
including
the
Smithsonian
in
Washington
DC.
Well,.
S
Thanks
for
tuning
in
to
another
episode
of
Capital
City
news,
your
connection
to
Salt
Lake
City
government,
on
this
week's
episode,
we
hear
from
Salt
Lake
City
firefighter
Virginia
Dickenson
about
her
experience.
Fighting
the
woolsley
fire
in
Southern
California,
and
our
history
minute
is
about
the
eighth
installment
of
our
history
of
rail.
S
Let's
get
started
with
our
legislative
update
and
look
back
at
its
November
27th
meeting
the
City
Council
recognize
council
member
Derek
kitchen
for
three
years
of
service
on
the
City
Council
and
two
years
of
leadership
on
the
redevelopment
agency
kitchen
will
leave
January
2019
to
begin
serving
in
the
Utah
State
Legislature.
The
council
was
also
briefed
on
the
potential
for
the
city
to
host
a
future
Winter
Olympics
to
learn
more
visit,
SLC
Council
dot-com.
S
For
the
first
time
ever,
the
United
Nations
global
communications
NGO
conference
is
coming
to
Salt
Lake
City
in
August
of
2019
mayor
B,
scoopski
United
Nations
officials,
along
with
local
dignitaries,
announced
plans
to
host
the
68th
annual
conference,
focusing
on
empowering
sustainable
communities.
Next
year's
conference
will
showcase
Salt,
Lake
City's
work
to
help
lead
the
way
on
global
issues.
Salt
Lake
City
is
the
first
location
in
the
nation
outside
of
New
York
City,
to
host
this
conference,
bringing
the
most
international
audience
to
Utah
since
the
2002
Olympics.
S
In
early
November,
a
devastating
fire
ravaged
the
Southern
California
area
of
Thousand
Oaks
and
nine
Salt
Lake
City
firefighters
were
deployed
to
help
assist
with
the
woolsley
fire,
including
firefighter
Virginia
Dickinson.
On
this
week's
Capitol
City
news
episode,
we
hear
her
story
and
what
it
was
like.
My.
Q
Money
I
needed
to
have
more
purpose
in
life
and
I
actually
went
to
a
public
safety
career
fair
at
the
the
Public,
Safety,
Building
downtown
and
the
firefighters
said:
hey,
you
should
be
a
firefighter
it's
like
that's
a
really
good
idea,
so
I
did
I
went
through
the
process
and
Here
I
am
and
I
like
I
said
I
can't
imagine
doing
anything
else.
I
I
know
that
this
was
what
I'm
supposed
to
do.
Q
Is
we
start
watching
the
news
you
hear
about
these
fires,
you
kind
of
her
carrier,
and
then
you
know,
especially
as
camp
fire
crew
as
Woolsey
crew.
You
knew
that
there
was
a
possibility
that
we
could
be
sending
a
team
and
I
got
the
phone
call
from
the
chief.
He
said.
Are
you
willing
to
deploy
tomorrow
to
go
to
California
said
absolutely
I
want
to
help
I
want
to
I
want
to
go.
Do
my
part
and
I
know
that
every
single
one
of
us
feels
that
way.
Q
We
took
two
apparatus
and
nine
members
from
Salt
Lake
City
and
we
were
part
of
the
Utah
task
force.
So
we
went
with
a
lot
of
different
agencies
throughout
the
state.
My
engineer
here
at
station
nine
was
my
engineer
on
deployment,
so
that
was
that
was
really
neat
to
get
to
go
with
somebody
who
I
have
a
really
close
relationship
with
already.
You
know
he's
like
a
big
brother
to
me.
Q
The
the
command
scale
when
you
get
to
camp
is
a
huge
learning
experience,
but
it
was
overwhelming
you
get
there
and
there
are
engines
from
Texas
from
Montana
from
Utah,
and
then
you
see
just
how
many
Cal
Fire
engines
there
are
and
that
they're
calling
it
for
help
with
the
resources
that
they
have.
It's
it's
a
very
powerful
experience.
Q
You
you
live
sleep,
eat,
go
into
dangerous
situations
with
your
crew
and
that
extends
to
any
agency
when
you
go
out
and
you're
you're
assigned
a
task
force
or
you're
assigned
a
division
with
different
people
and
people
you've
never
met
before
it
doesn't
matter,
they're
your
brothers
and
sisters,
and
you
feel
that
camaraderie
you're
one
tiny
little
cog
in
a
huge
machine,
and
it's
just
this
common
cause.
Everybody's
fighting
for
the
same
goal,
I
feel
so
grateful
that
I
was
I
was
picked
to
go.
I
was
on
that
list.
It
was
a.
Q
It
was
an
immense
learning,
it's
for
me,
especially
being
somebody
so
new
on
the
on
the
job.
You
know
when
you
flip
on
the
news
in
the
morning.
You
see
all
of
the
bad
things
that
happen
out
there.
The
natural
disasters,
the
the
human
disasters,
the
all
of
the
negativity
in
the
world,
and
it
was
really
important
for
me
as
I,
made
this
career
change
as
I
stumbled
into
this
career.
That
I
wanted
to
be
part
of
the
good
guys.
Q
T
As
soon
as
eh
Harriman
took
control
of
the
Salt
Lake
streetcar
system,
he
began
updating
the
trains,
modernized,
the
maintenance
shops,
power
lines,
plants
and
everything
else.
Harriman
then
commissioned
a
state-of-the-art
facility
to
house
and
maintain
his
ever
increasing
fleet
of
streetcars
as
the
new
home
of
public
transit
in
Salt
Lake
City
Harriman
chose
a
10
acre
plot
of
land
on
the
east
side
that
had
been
set
aside
by
Brigham
Young
as
the
10th
Ward
square
then
designated
in
1889
as
the
official
territorial
fairgrounds
by
1902.
T
It
was
too
small
to
be
used
in
that
capacity
and
was
abandoned.
Harriman
scooped
it
up
and
constructed
the
massive
building
that
we
know
today
is
Charlie
square.
This
building
could
hold
a
hundred
and
forty-four
double-truck
streetcars.
He
was
divided
into
four
massive
bays
with
four
tracks.
Each
208
skylights
provide
the
light
to
the
building,
because
fire
was
always
a
risk.
Harriman
included
the
now
iconic
50,000
gallon
water
tower
to
the
plans
hoping
to
keep
the
entire
operation
self-sufficient
in
an
effort
to
remain
completely
independent.
S
Thanks
for
watching
another
episode
of
capital
city
news
be
sure
to
tune
in
next
time
to
stay
up
to
date
on
all
the
latest.
Now
through
December
Salt
Lake
City
is
hosting
the
35th
annual
holiday
craft
market,
be
sure
to
get
out
and
do
your
holiday
shopping.
The
local
way
for
details
visit,
Salt,
Lake,
Arts
org
for
SLC
TV,
I'm,
Poonam,
Kumar,
signing
off
from
the
Public
Safety
Building.
S
Thanks
for
joining
us
for
SLC
TV,
Salt
Lake
City's
government
access
channel,
the
holiday
season
is
upon
us,
and
so
is
the
countdown
to
find
the
perfect
gift
for
your
loved
one.
On
this
week's
episode
of
Capitol
City
news,
we
hear
from
Laura
Fritz
the
director
of
Salt
Lake
City's,
Economic
Development
Department
about
Small
Business,
Saturday
and
shopping
local,
and
our
history
minute
is
about
renowned
painter
and
sculptor
Allan
Houser.
Let's
get
started
with
our
legislative
update
and
look
back
at
its
November
13th
meeting.
S
The
City
Council
received,
updates
on
the
regulation
of
inland
port
uses
major
public
utilities,
projects,
surplus
land
for
affordable
housing
and
more.
The
council
also
passed
an
anti
puppy
mill,
ordinance,
limiting
the
sale
of
dogs,
cats
and
rabbits
at
commercial
animal
establishments
to
learn
more
visit.
Soc
council
dot-com
with
global
temperatures
on
the
rise
Utah
is
feeling
the
effects
of
climate
change,
low
water
levels,
algal
blooms,
poor
air
quality,
extreme
heat,
frequent
wildfires
help
be
part
of
the
solution.
Take
action
today.
S
Small
changes
to
your
daily
routine
will
reduce
emissions
and
help
you
sane,
adjust
thermostat
settings
every
degree
saves
3%
on
heating
or
cooling
use,
cold
water
for
washing
clothes,
heating,
water
consumes
a
lot
of
energy
go
vegetarian.
One
day
per
week.
Food
is
25%
of
Utah
household
carbon
footprint
act
now
on
climate
change,
find
more
helpful
tips
at
SLC,
gov,
slash
sustainability,.
N
Is
a
really
important
event
for
Salt,
Lake,
City
and
really
communities
across
the
country
to
highlight
our
local
businesses
to
encourage
people
to
shop
small?
When
you
walk
into
a
small
business
most
of
the
times
you
get
to
meet
the
owners,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone
has
the
opportunity
to
meet
our
business
owners
here
in
Salt,
Lake
City.
Every
dollar
that
is
spent
at
a
local
small
business
is
about
70%
of
that
is
returned
back
to
the
local
community.
N
T
The
northeast
corner
of
Washington
Square
is
a
bronze
statue
of
a
Native
American,
offering
a
pipe
up
to
the
sky.
Hundreds
walk
by
it
daily,
but
few
know
its
story
and
even
fewer
realize
it
might
be
one
of
the
most
important
works
of
art
on
display
in
all
of
Salt
Lake
City.
It
was
sculpted
by
Allan
Houser,
a
Chiricahua
Apache,
painter,
sculptor
and
illustrator,
who
was
born
in
1914
in
passed
away
in
1994.
T
His
first
major
commission
was
a
pair
of
murals
inside
the
main
interior
building
in
Washington
DC,
alongside
artists
like
Maynard
Dixon
and
William
dropper
in
1949,
Hauser's
art
earned
him
a
Guggenheim
Fellowship
in
sculpture
and
painting
afterward.
He
accepted
a
job
teaching
art
in
Utah
at
the
Intermountain
intertribal
school
for
the
next
11
years.
In
1985
he
presented
the
United
Nations,
with
a
bronze
sculpture
called
offering
of
the
Sacred
Pipe
in
1992
he
became
the
first
Native
American
to
receive
a
National
Medal
of
the
Arts.
May
we
have.
T
Peace
was
the
reason
for
his
last
visit
to
Washington
DC
before
his
passing,
where
he
presented
the
bronze
sculpture
to
then
First
Lady
Hillary
Clinton
for
installation
at
the
vice
presidential
residence,
but
in
2002,
as
the
Olympics
came
to
Salt
Lake
City,
the
Allan
Houser
estate
loan
19
works
of
art
for
display.
During
the
event
the
Salt
Lake
Foundation
made
it
their
goal
to
acquire
permanently.
This
casting
of
the
important
statue
other
castings
of
may
we
have
peace
are
placed
in
major
museum
collections
around
the
United
States,
including
the
Smithsonian
in
Washington
DC.
Well,.
S
Thanks
for
tuning
in
to
another
episode
of
Capital
City
news,
your
connection
to
Salt
Lake
City
government,
on
this
week's
episode,
we
hear
from
Salt
Lake
City
firefighter
Virginia
Dickenson
about
her
experience.
Fighting
the
woolsley
fire
in
Southern
California,
and
our
history
minute
is
about
the
eighth
installment
of
our
history
of
rail.
S
Let's
get
started
with
our
legislative
update
and
look
back
at
its
November
27th
meeting
the
City
Council
recognize
council
member
Derek
kitchen
for
three
years
of
service
on
the
City
Council
and
two
years
of
leadership
on
the
redevelopment
agency
kitchen
will
leave
January
2019
to
begin
serving
in
the
Utah
State
Legislature.
The
council
was
also
briefed
on
the
potential
for
the
city
to
host
a
future
Winter
Olympics
to
learn
more
visit,
SLC
Council
dot-com.
S
For
the
first
time
ever,
the
United
Nations
global
communications
NGO
conference
is
coming
to
Salt
Lake
City
in
August
of
2019
mayor
B,
scoopski
United
Nations
officials,
along
with
local
dignitaries,
announced
plans
to
host
the
68th
annual
conference,
focusing
on
empowering
sustainable
communities.
Next
year's
conference
will
showcase
Salt,
Lake
City's
work
to
help
lead
the
way
on
global
issues.
Salt
Lake
City
is
the
first
location
in
the
nation
outside
of
New
York
City,
to
host
this
conference,
bringing
the
most
international
audience
to
Utah
since
the
2002
Olympics.
S
In
early
November,
a
devastating
fire
ravaged
the
Southern
California
area
of
Thousand
Oaks
and
nine
Salt
Lake
City
firefighters
were
deployed
to
help
assist
with
the
woolsley
fire,
including
firefighter
Virginia
Dickinson.
On
this
week's
Capitol
City
news
episode,
we
hear
her
story
and
what
it
was
like.
My.
Q
Name
is
V
Dickinson
I'm,
a
firefighter
with
Salt
Lake
City
Fire
Department
I've,
been
on
the
job
now
coming
up
on
two
and
a
half
years,
so
still
very
new
to
the
the
career
that
I
graduated
with
a
BA
into
the
recession
spent
seven
years
in
sales
and
realized.
I
didn't
want
to
my
life,
making
somebody
else.
Q
Money
I
needed
to
have
more
purpose
in
life
and
I
actually
went
to
a
public
safety
career
fair
at
the
the
Public,
Safety,
Building
downtown
and
the
firefighters
said:
hey,
you
should
be
a
firefighter
it's
like
that's
a
really
good
idea,
so
I
tested
I
went
through
the
process
and
Here
I
am
and
I
like
I
said
I
can't
imagine
doing
anything
else.
I
I
know
that
this
was
what
I'm
supposed
to
do.
Is
we
start
watching
the
news
you
hear
about
these
fires?
Q
You
kind
of
her
carrier,
and
then
you
know,
especially
as
camp
fire
crew
is
Woolsey
crew.
You
knew
that
there
was
a
possibility
that
we
could
be
sending
a
team
and
I
got
the
phone
call
from
the
chief.
He
said.
Are
you
willing
to
deploy
tomorrow
to
go
to
California
I
said
absolutely
I
want
to
help
I
want
to
I
want
to
go.
Do
my
part
and
I
know
that
every
single
one
of
us
feels
that
way.
Q
We
took
two
apparatus
and
nine
members
from
Salt
Lake
City
and
we
were
part
of
the
Utah
task
force.
So
we
went
with
a
lot
of
different
agencies
throughout
the
state.
My
engineer
here
at
station
nine
was
my
engineer
on
deployment,
so
that
was
that
was
really
neat
to
get
to
go
with
somebody
who
I
I
have
a
really
close
relationship
with
already.
You
know
he's
like
a
big
brother
to
me.
Q
The
the
command
scale
when
you
get
to
camp
is
a
huge
learning
experience,
but
it
was
overwhelming
you
get
there
and
there
are
engines
from
Texas
from
Montana
from
Utah,
and
then
you
see
just
how
many
Cal
Fire
engines
there
are
and
that
they're
calling
it
for
help
with
the
resources
that
they
have.
It's
it's
a
very
powerful
experience.
Q
You
you
live
sleep,
eat,
go
into
dangerous
situations
with
your
crew
and
that
extends
to
any
agency
when
you
go
out
and
you're
you're
assigned
a
task
force
or
you're
assigned
a
division
with
different
people
and
people
you've
never
met
before
it
doesn't
matter,
they're
your
brothers
and
sisters,
and
you
feel
that
camaraderie
you're
one
tiny
little
cog
in
a
huge
machine,
and
it's
just
this
common
cause.
Everybody's
fighting
for
the
same
goal,
I
feel
so
grateful
that
I
was
I
was
picked
to
go.
I
was
on
that
list.
It
was
a.
Q
It
was
an
immense
learning
experience
for
me,
especially
being
somebody
so
new
on
the
on
the
job.
You
know
when
you
flip
on
the
news
in
the
morning.
You
see
all
of
the
bad
things
that
happen
out
there.
The
natural
disasters,
the
the
human
disasters,
the
all
of
the
negativity
in
the
world,
and
it
was
really
important
for
me
as
I,
made
this
career
change
as
I
stumbled
into
this
career.
That
I
wanted
to
be
part
of
the
good
guys.
Q
T
As
soon
as
eh
Harriman
took
control
of
the
Salt
Lake
streetcar
system,
he
began
updating
the
trains,
modernized,
the
maintenance
shops,
powerlines
plants
and
everything
else.
Harriman
then
commissioned
a
state-of-the-art
facility
to
house
and
maintain
his
ever-increasing
fleet
of
streetcars
as
the
new
home
of
public
transit
in
Salt
Lake
City
Herriman
chose
a
10
acre
plot
of
land
on
the
east
side
that
had
been
set
aside
by
Brigham
Young
as
the
10th
Ward
square
then
designated
in
1889
as
the
official
territorial
fairgrounds
by
1902.