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B
C
Next
up
is
our
history
minute
when
you
tones
think
of
home
fries
sauce
is
one
of
the
first
things
that
comes
to
mind.
This
ubiquitous
condiment
is
a
mystery
to
much
of
the
rest
of
the
country,
but
its
origin
lies
right
here.
In
Salt,
Lake
City
originally
called
pink
sauce.
It
was
developed
by
a
chef
named
Don
Carlos
Edwards
Don
Carlos
gained
fame
in
the
Salt
Lake
area,
with
his
mobile
food,
cart,
peddling,
hamburgers
fries
and
cold
drinks.
C
Soon
enough,
he
put
down
roots
at
135,
East
to
900
South
and
opened
the
Don
Carlos
barbecue
there.
He
began
experimenting
with
foods
that
began
mixing
ingredients,
including
mayonnaise
and
ketchup.
This
pink
concoction
was
designed
to
be
used
as
a
hamburger
topping,
but
sometime
between
1941
and
1943
Don
Carlos
dipped,
a
french
fry
in
it,
and
the
rest
became
history.
After
that
he
began
making
customers
try
it
until
it
caught
on
when
he
opened
his
next
restaurant.
The
first
Arctic
Circle
fry
sauce
became
a
staple
across
the
state
of
Utah
and
the
entire
Midwest.
C
C
Thanks
for
joining
us
for
another
episode
of
Capitol
City
news
in
the
month
of
may
Salt,
Lake
City
hosts
a
series
of
events
ranging
from
the
open
streets
festival
to
living
traditions.
We
hope
you
get
a
chance
to
join
us
in
downtown
Salt
Lake
City
to
learn
more
about
events
happening
here
in
Salt.
Lake,
see,
follow
us
on
Facebook,
Twitter
and
Instagram
SLC
go
thanks
for
watching.
We
hope
you
join
us
next
time
for
SLC
TV,
I'm,
Poonam,
Kumar.
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A
A
A
A
First
I
really
appreciate
everyone
being
here.
It's
always
nice
when
people
take
time
out
of
their
own
schedules
to
come
and
join
us
at
a
city
council
meeting.
We
look
forward
to
hearing
from
everyone
and
really
having
you
be
a
part
of
this
political
process
that
is
so
necessary
for
us.
There
are
a
few
things
that
I
would
like
to
mention.
A
We'd
also
like
you
to
make
sure
to
look
around.
This
is
a
historic
room.
In
fact,
as
I
like
to
point
out
to
everyone,
it's
the
only
room
in
the
building
that
is
still
used
for
its
original
purpose
when
it
from
when
it
was
built
there.
It
is
quite
historic,
we'd
ask
that
you
not
stand
on
any
furniture
or
to
face
any
of
the
things
within
our
within
our
room
here.
A
If
you
do
have
a
sign,
a
prop
or
any
other
piece
of
equipment,
please
make
sure
that
it
does
not
cause
a
disruption
or
block
other
people
again.
Our
goal
is
to
make
sure
everybody
feels
that
they
have
an
ability
to
participate
in
our
council
meeting
and
we'd.
Also
ask
that
you
not
approach
the
dais.
If
there
is
something
that
you
would
like
to
hand
any
of
the
councilmembers,
you
can
raise
your
hand
and
we
council
staff
around
the
room
that
can
help
you
out.
A
Also.
Our
staff
is
here
to
help
they're
incredibly
helpful.
So
if
you
need
any
assistance
or
have
any
questions,
please
raise
your
hand
in
a
council
staff.
Member
will
come
and
help
you
now.
Our
general
comments
are
reserved
for
two
minutes
and
we
recognize
that.
That's
not
a
lot
of
time
and
I'm
sure
that
you
have
several
thoughts
as
you
want
to
share
with
us,
but
we
really
ask
that
you
stick
to
that
two
minutes.
A
It's
a
rule
that
we
have
and
we
ask
everyone
to
be,
respectful
of
so
that
we
can
get
everyone's
thoughts
heard.
You
can
always
continue
your
thoughts
or
continue
what
you'd
like
to
say
with
any
one
of
us
council
members
via
calling
us
or
emailing
us
or
setting
up
appointments
with
the
staff.
We're
always
here
to
listen
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
listening.
A
D
D
D
Most
of
us
will
never
forget
the
lovely
emotional
tribute
that
he
made
to
his
late
late,
wife
Mary
at
our
council
meeting
on
May
1st
2016.
When
he
closed
remarks
by
saying,
I
have
a
picture
of
her
in
my
wallet
and
I,
just
felt
I
needed
to
talk
about
her
from
train
etiquette
to
non
functioning
elevators
at
his
apartment.
Complex
Douglass
cared
about
the
issues
that
impact
the
day-to-day
lives
of
many
people
in
our
city,
and
he
brought
many
to
our
attention
that
we
would
have
otherwise
been
unaware
of.
D
D
A
You
and
thank
you
for
that.
He
will
certainly
be
missed.
So
I
did
also
want
to
point
out
that
at
today's
meeting
were
kind
of
we
have
that
our
council
wears
three
different
hats.
One
hat
is
as
the
board
of
the
Redevelopment
Agency.
Another
hat
is
as
the
board
of
the
local
Building
Authority
and
then,
of
course,
we
wear
the
hat
of
City
Council
members
and
today
on
our
agenda.
We
do
have
all
three
hats
that
will
be
switching
off
and
wearing
today.
A
A
Wow
I
think
that
was
a
motion
by
councilmember
kitchen
and
a
second
by
councilmember
Johnston,
all
those
in
favor,
okay,
any
opposed.
Okay.
The
motion
passes
and
now
we're
at
Section
B
the
public
hearing
portion
I,
don't
have
any
comment
cards,
I,
don't
know
if
anyone
wants
to
have
any
comment
as
it
relates
to
local
building
authority,
but
I
don't
see
anything
so
we'll
keep
going
at
this
point.
We
have
sorry,
that's
it
now.
I
think
we
can
yes,
I
move.
A
F
D
A
G
The
Utah
law
recently
changed
to
allow
you
to
put
RDA
funds
into
homeless
services,
but
look
at
how
much
you
put
in
is
just
what
a
hundred
thousand
it
was
minuscule,
but
RDA
property
went
down
in
value
five
million
dollars
because
of
homeless
issues,
and
you
should
be
spending
more
money.
I
mean
if
you
spend
the
money
in
the
correct
place.
You're
gonna
actually
increase
value
of
RDA
property
instead
of
having
it
go
down.
G
Your
job
as
an
RDA
board
is
to
increase
the
value
of
the
property,
not
let
it
go
downhill
by
doing
nothing,
and
by
not
spending
more
money
on
RDA
homeless
issues,
which
the
state
now
tells
you
you
can
do,
you're
actually
abrogating
your
responsibility,
I'm
asking
you
to
spend
a
whole
lot
more
than
what
you're
budgeting
right
now
on
homeless.
There
are
people
down
there
that
are
still
homeless,
they're,
still
putting
up
tents.
Yes,
the
rest
of
the
city
is
affected,
but
your
property
is
affected
more
than
anybody.
Please
put
more
money
into
homeless.
H
Bernie
Hart
I,
don't
know
who
I've
seen
speak
more
Douglas
or
George
Chapman
may
be
a
close
race.
It's
always
a
pleasure
to
come
to
these
meetings
and
see
those
two
PRC
it
was.
It
was
enjoyable,
the
homeless
and
spending
money.
I
think
it's
about
time
that
we
have
a
different
dialogue
on
the
homeless
issue
and
how
we're
spending
money
on
the
homeless
issue
because
nothing
he
was
spent
so
far
as
impacted
the
problem
except
the
money
you've
spent
on
policing
and
driving
and
forcing
the
people
from
one
place
to
another.
H
People
almost
every
day,
so
I
think
it's
time
for
a
different
conversation
about
storage
and
helping
people
in
a
different
way,
because,
whatever
is
happening,
isn't
working
so
whatever
you
could
put
in
housing,
because
if
the
programs
that
the
kind
of
collective
impact
and
the
people
are
working
on
are
actually
going
to
work,
the
problems
they
should
have
started
impacting
the
population
already
and
if
they
impact
the
population,
they
need
housing
or
they're.
Gonna,
be
right
back
on
the
street
again
and
on
the
street
corner
and
the
police
is
just
being
a
go
cycle.
H
So
I
don't
know
when
somebody
is
going
to
break
down
and
open
the
doors
to
somebody
other
than
yourselves
to
have
a
conversation
about
homelessness,
but
I
wish
it
would
happen
pretty
soon.
Money
would
help,
but
it
was
not
well
directed
and
truth
in
applied
to
things
that
are
actually
working.
You
just
throwing
away
our
tax
dollars.
So
thank
you.
A
I
I
I
With
this
project,
you're
affecting
housing
right
behind
on
Edison
and
Wilson
in
Coatesville,
as
well
as
other
items,
I
have
talked
to
the
EPA
for
the
last
well,
I
called
them
last
week
and
I
spoke
for
a
couple.
Probably
20
minutes
to
one
gal
in
Denver
told
her
story,
because
we,
the
Echols
family,
has
owned
that
property.
Since
the
forties,
we
know
what
went
on
in
that
garage.
It's
not
what
went
on
in
that
garage.
Okay,
after
I
talked
to
the
gal
in
Denver.
I
She
transferred
me
to
a
person
in
beautiful,
downtown
Salt,
Lake
and
I
talked
to
him
for
over
a
half
an
hour,
told
him
what
really
happened
in
that
garage.
It's
not
a
warehouse
folks.
He
didn't
know
about
the
stream
within
that
property
that
comes
down
from
Mill
Creek,
and
now
you
want
more
money.
You
don't
even
know
what
the
hell
you're
spending
the
money
for
I'm.
Sorry,
your
housing
director
did
not
do
a
very
good
job.
A
E
E
A
You
so
we
have
a
motion
to
continue
the
public
hearing
to
june
5th
by
councilmember
kitchen
and
a
second
by
councilmember
Johnston,
all
those
in
favor.
Okay,
any
opposed
that
motion
passes.
Okay,
we
are
certainly
moving
right
along
and
changing
our
hats.
Yet
again,
so
we
will
be
moving
on
to
our
formal
City
Council
meeting
at
this
time.
Our
first
item
is
under
is
item
a2.
Excuse
me,
and
this
is
to
approve
the
work
session
meeting
minutes.
A
A
A
Okay,
we're
on
to
our
public
hearings.
We
sort
of
went
out
of
order
earlier,
so
I
didn't
switch
through
this,
but
we
are
on
to
our
public
hearings.
Our
first
public
hearing
is
regarding
the
street
closure
at
1300
South
between
900
West
and
the
Jordan
River
I.
Don't
have
any
comment
cards
on
this.
Is
there
anyone
that
would
like
to
speak
about
this?
D
A
A
Our
next
public
hearing
is
for
sorry
for
the
ordinance
is
listed
below
in
the
agenda,
which
are
items
b2
through
B
211
that
are
associated
with
the
implementation
of
the
mayor's
recommended
budget,
including
the
library
fund
for
fiscal
year
2018
to
2019.
We're
gonna
hear
all
of
these
at
the
same
time.
A
So
if
you
have
any
comments
regarding
b2
through
b11,
please
pass
them
on
now
and
I
do
have
several
I
have
several
comment
cards
I'll
be
calling
people
two
at
a
time
just
so
the
second
person
can
be
prepared
to
speak
after
the
first
person's
2
minutes.
So
at
this
point,
I'd
call
Jim
Webster
and
Chris
Robinson.
If
mr.
Webster
would
like
to
join
us
and
if
mr.
Robinson
would
be
prepared.
Thank
you.
J
I'm
sorry,
but
I
really
feel
like.
It
was
extorted
because
I
had
to
pay
the
money
to
get
the
fees
or
to
get
the
permit
and,
in
my
opinion,
I
agree
with
Vicki
laughs,
Vicki
Bennett.
It
should
be
an
incentive.
It
should
be
something
that
perhaps
shouldn't
even
cost
you
anything.
The
amount
of
outlay
of
the
city
spent,
in
my
particular
case,
was
probably
less
than
$50
and
yet
I
paid
850
I.
J
Consider
it
the
worst
kind
of
draconian
thing
that
I've
ever
been
experienced
and
I'm
a
land
planning
consultant
of
an
architect
and
I
do
a
lot
of
different
things.
I
was
involved
in
solar
planning
with
when
I
was
with
Terracor
in
the
1970s.
We
were
building
buildings
with
trauma
walls
and
act
even
past
his
solar
I
know,
I
know
that
industry
I
finally
was
able
to
afford
to
do
it.
But
it's
going
to
come.
It's
going
to
take
me
an
extra
2
or
3
years
to
pay
off
just
the
application
fee
for
the
city.
J
K
Well,
for
the
specific
reason,
it's
quite
obvious
that
no
one
thought
last
November
to
inform
us
that
you
intended
to
build
a
four-story
building
next
door
to
us
and
let
us
pay
the
fees
and
put
the
solar
panels
on
and
now
what
now
we're
stuck
with
a
bill
for
the
solar
and
the
fees.
Who
cares
right?
We,
we
will
be
glad
to
see
the
back
of
this
city.
L
Good
evening,
council,
members,
mayor
and
staff,
so
it
is
good
to
know.
There's
a
record
pertain
to
how
many
times
people
have
spoken.
I
have
a
long
way
to
go.
That's
for
sure,
but
for
tonight
I
would
just
talk
about
simply
the
more
police
is
not
equal.
Less
crime,
I
said
a
few
more
times
and
I'll
say
it
again:
more
police,
it's
not
equal
less
crime,
so
I
was
doing
just
some
looking
through
the
police
website.
Department
website
and
I
found
I
found
some.
You
know
great
things
and
I
try
to
do
more.
L
Research
as
I
can
during
you
know,
full-time
working
one
not
on
my
off
time,
but
then
I
found
out
that
you
know
we
do
have
those
and
I
was
already
aware
of
it.
The
community
intelligence
units-
and
those
are
you-
know,
awesome
positions
for
people
to
how
to
go
and
interact
with
community
members.
However,
as
I
was
looking
through
the
website,
all
seven
police
officers
are
supposed
to
be
community
liaisons.
All
some
of
them
are
male
presenting
white
presenting
individuals.
L
So
if
these
are
community
intelligence
unit
officers
are
supposed
to
be
ably
the
grassroots
outreach
to
our
communities,
there's
a
little
bit,
something
that's
in
error,
I
believe
in
demographic
representation
and
even
for
district
1
and
district
2.
There's
not
those
people
who
are
supposed
to
be
those
who
Hazel's
do
not
look
even
friendly
for
people
to
approach
them.
I've
run
into
a
few
members
that
go
to
those
meetings
and
they
see
them
there
and
their
stand
off
because
they
look
very
intimidating
and
so
for
me,
for
these
community
intelligence
unit
officers.
L
Also
looking
into
the
Salt
Lake
City
crime
stats
and
only
for
some
reason,
I'm
sure,
they're
there
any
stats
are
are
somewhere,
but
for
some
reason
only
one
area
in
Salt,
Lake
City
are
there
reports
for,
and
that's
district
1,
and
this
raquan
is
on
the
west
side
and
then
I
can't
find
any
other
reports
for
other
districts
in
this
sonic
city.
So.
B
A
A
L
A
L
A
G
Well,
I
just
thought
of
something
else
to
talk
about,
but
I
want
to
talk.
Thank
you
for
the
six
percent
match
on
the
401
K
for
police
officers,
but
they
need
a
whole
lot
more.
You
know
when
you're
only
getting
12
in
an
Academy
Class,
your
next
Academy
class
is
going
to
have
12.
You
need
more
police
officers
and
the
best
way
to
get
more
police
officers
is
to
give
more
salary
you're
only
offering
at
best
three
percent,
which
is
the
same
as
everybody
else
in
here.
G
Like
Margaret
Margaret
deserves
more
than
a
3%
raise,
but
the
police
officers
out
there
deserve
a
whole
lot
more
than
3%.
These
are
officers
who
actually
take
bullets
for
us.
There's
one
officer
in
Salt,
Lake
City,
who
actually
literally
saved
hundreds
of
lives.
If
it
weren't
for
him,
we
would
have
had
a
carnage
like
much
worse
than
Las
Vegas.
He
gave
us
all,
he
was
shot,
he
was
wounded
and
he
shot
the
perpetrator
down,
who
had
a
machine
gun
and
a
thousand
rounds
of
ammunition.
G
These
are
officers
who
go
to
work
every
day.
Knowing
they
may
not
come
back,
they
deserve
more
than
3%,
so
whatever
you
can
do
to
recognize,
that
would
really
be
appreciated
and
if
you
want
more
cops
on
the
street,
that's
the
best
way
to
do
it.
Regarding
community
intelligent
officers,
I,
don't
know
how
you
do
it,
but
the
best
officers
I've
ever
seen
have
gone
through
the
community
intelligence
group,
you're
reading
them
for
higher
office,
and
they
are
good,
they're,
amazing
and
they
do
represent
the
community.
G
I
go
to
a
lot
of
community
councils,
never
thought
about
it
before,
but
thinking
about
it
they
do
represent.
The
communities
are
coming
out
of.
I
recognize,
there's
some
issues
about
it,
but
they're
really
a
big
asset.
So
much
so
that
you've
been
asked
several
times.
Your
predecessor
has
been
asked
demanded
that
those
community
intelligence
officers
stay
the
communities
loved
them.
So
these
are
officers
that
make
the
police
officers
look
good.
They
make
a.
H
I've
attended
the
CAG
meetings,
discussions
about
the
police
and
the
effectiveness
of
the
police
department
and
the
shootings
that
have
occurred
in
the
within
you
know
by
officers,
and
it's
been
a
constant
struggle
to
find
out
something
to
find
out.
Why
and
to
try
and
do
something
effective
to
decrease
that
and
one
of
the
things
that
has
bothered
me
through
that
whole
discussion
and
it
was
brought
to
light
in
the
Salt
Lake
Tribune
over
the
last
week
was
the
mental
health
concerns
of
the
local
officers.
H
So
I
would
like
to
have
you
devote
some
funding
to
gather
some
information
on
that
particular
issue,
because
it's
impacting
the
whole
community
in
a
negative
way
and
it
doesn't
help
the
police
officers
themselves
that
are
mentally
ill
through
no
fault
of
their
own,
just
because
a
result
of
doing
their
job,
so
I'd
like
to
get
more
information
find
out
what
that's
all
about
I
wish
you'd
fund
it.
Thank
you.
A
M
Gonna
have
proper
housing,
we're
gonna,
have
proper
or
we're
gonna
have
proper
programs
in
place
to
prevent
crime
rather
than
putting
more
guns
in
the
hands
of
the
police
to
kill
people,
especially
if
they
want
to
do
a
suicide-by-cop,
which
has
happened
here
recently
three
weeks
ago.
That's
unacceptable
police
accountability
is
something
we
can
definitely
talk
about,
but
other
people
will
make
those
points,
but
that's
something
the
police
officer
said
here.
We
can't
fix
those
problems.
M
F
Other
than
echoing
what
mr.
Vegas
mr.
Jensen
have
said,
what
I'll
say
is
this:
we've
been
told
that
our
police
hiring
standards
are
high,
that
we
hire
the
best
police
officers
that
are
the
least
likely
to
hurt
us
and
the
least
likely
to
do
harm
and
that's
just
wrong.
It's
incorrect
as
a
matter
of
fact.
For
instance,
40%
of
police
officer
families
will
experience
domestic
violence
at
some
point,
and
that
number
goes
up
to
60%
the
longer
that
somebody
is
a
police
officer.
That's
ridiculous!
That's
absurd!
F
F
Among
us,
people
of
color
women,
indigenous
people,
anybody
who
has
been
oppressed
by
our
system
I
think
it's
irresponsible,
that
we
would
hire
new
police
officers
without
first
addressing
basic
issues
such
as
don't
beat
your
wife,
don't
harm
your
family,
don't
shoot
people
of
color
just
because
you're
afraid
of
them
right
until
we
address
those
issues
until
we
say
that
absolutely
not!
We
will
have
zero
domestic
violence
among
our
police
officers.
We
will
shoot
zero
people
unjustifiably.
F
We
should
not
hire
a
single
new
police
officer
until
we
have
real
high
standards
until
we
can
say
that
our
standards
of
police
officers
are
the
highest
in
the
nation
higher
than
anybody
else's.
Why
would
we
ever
consider
doing
this?
We
are
bringing
more
harm
to
our
community
than
we
are.
Bringing
so-called
protection
to
our
community.
I
recognize
that
some
people
and
I
see
their
skin
tone.
Think
that
police,
protect
us
and
I
can
tell
you
that
people
with
different
skin
tones
do
not
agree
with
this.
F
A
B
I'm
here
to
say,
don't
fund
the
hiring
of
27,
more
cops
police.
Don't
make
our
communities
safer
when
I'm
in
danger,
I'm
as
afraid
of
the
police,
as
I
am
of
a
threat
at
hand
and
no
it's
not
because
I'm,
not
it's
not
because
I'm
breaking
the
law
I'm
a
so-called
law-abiding
citizen,
it's
because
I
know
cops
can
shoot
to
kill
just
because
they're
afraid
their
reason
can
be
fear,
not
justified
calculations
to
preserve
life,
not
training,
but
just
fear
can
be
used
to
justify
shooting
an
unarmed
human.
B
So
I
can't
call
the
cops
because
I
don't
want
blood
on
my
hands,
so
we
can't
trust
the
police
to
protect
and
serve.
But
we
do
have
programs,
we
know
it
can
protect
and
serve
us.
Let's
use
that
six
million
instead
of
funding
cops.
Let's
fund
housing
was
fundamental
health
treatment.
Let's
fund
domestic
violence,
shelters,
let's
fund
education,
let's
fund,
so
many
anything
but
killer,
cops.
N
My
name
is
Victoria
tuna.
I
just
wanted
to
talk
about
how
excited
I
was
when
I
heard
that
there
was
a
Democrat
who
was
going
to
be
elected
to
office
in
this
council
and
talk
about
again
how
disappointed
I
was
to
see
that
as
a
black
woman
as
a
black
mother
I
continue
to
be
fear.
Even
though
we
have
police
in
the
state
and
in
this
area,
I
happen
to
be
a
major
in
criminal
justice
from
Weber
State
University,
nothing
that
I
have
read
would
would
support.
You
know
getting
more
police
officers
in
force.
N
Nothing
has
changed
their
case
of
past.
We
still
live
in
fear
of
police,
so
I'm,
just
like
those
who
have
spoken
before
me,
I
would
I
would
suggest
that
we
put
you
know
our
resources
in
housing,
working
through
the
problem
of
drug
addiction,
working
through
our
education
systems
and
providing
people.
The
basic
you
know
living
needs
mental
health
care.
We
cannot
afford
to
have
the
system
that
we
put
in
power,
employ
people
to
extinguish
the
black
people
to
extinguish
the
black
race
I.
Don't
think
that
is
a
government
for
people
by
the
people.
Thank
you.
O
When
I
not
just
good
evening,
council
members
mayor
before
anything,
I'd
like
to
offer
recognition
of
the
indigenous
lands
that
we
currently
occupy,
it
is
my
first
time
approaching
you
all
I
regret
is
to
express
a
concern
and
complaint
regarding
a
pending
item
to
face
in
the
increase
of
police
enforcement
I
like
it.
Many
of
us
are
tired.
O
In
my
role
with
UCL,
our
I
actually
recognize
today
that
too,
that
it
had
been
a
whole
ten
year
since
I
graduated
high
school
this
month,
in
that,
in
that
time,
I've
been
able
to
complete
a
bachelor's
and
master's
work
in
the
White
House
had
a
privilege
of
offering
a
TED
talk
at
TEDx,
Salt
Lake
City
this
past
year.
As
far
as
my
engagement
with
the
law,
the
worst
thing
I
have
on
any
sort
of
record
as
a
speeding
ticket
from
when
I
was
17.
O
In
my
hometown
of
Logan,
Utah
I
share
all
this
to
offer
a
context.
In
my
current
growing
rage
of
being
aggressively
questioned
as
I
entered
the
public
building
today
by
the
three
officer
stationed
downstairs.
My
friend
and
I,
two
men
of
color,
entered
upon
the
conclusion
of
the
Utah
Utah
is
against
police
brutality
rally.
Prior
to
this
meeting,
we
were
not
welcomed
inside.
We
were
questioning
police
as
if
we
owe
any
justification
for
our
existence
to
these
men
who
have
been
provided
with
authority
to
serve
and
protect.
O
P
Good
evening
my
name
is
Antonio:
Farrell
represent
the
Rose
Park
Brown
Berets,
and
you
know
we
don't
need
more
cops
in
the
streets.
I
come
from
Rose
Park
was
a
lot
of
harassment.
That's
going
on
among
our
youth
police
brutality
and
it's
easy
to
say,
cops
help
our
communities
when
you,
when
you're
a
white
middle-class
person
when
you
come
from
large
alights
community,
which
we
call
the
hood,
you
know
I'm
saying
we
see,
we
see,
we
see
them
as
their
oppressors.
P
You
know
we
don't
need
more
kids
dying
from
police,
because
they're
scared
of
us
and
and
as
well,
like
you
know,
say
they
say,
cops
saves
lives,
but
whose
lives
are
they
saving?
Are
they
saving
kids
from
the
hood,
I?
Think
people
of
color?
You
know
you
know
you
know,
and
it's
just
the
fact
that
you
know
bleed
the
police.
Ism
has
a
hit
long.
History
of
you
know
racism.
You
know
putting
more
police
of
color,
it's
not
going
to
help
as
well
I
mean
if
you
see,
because
the
system's
already
built
on
racism.
P
It's
just
the
same
thing.
You
know
putting
you
know
having
more
politicians
of
color
politicians,
the
politician,
you
know
the
this
whole
system
is
built
on
racism
and
it
should
have
been
should
be,
and
they
wonder
why
there's
crimes
at
the
Westside
so
why
this
does
crimes
on
the
Westside,
because
we
have
less
access
to
resources.
P
A
Q
You
I
surround
the
city
on
the
community
council
for
liberty,
Wells,
which
is
often
called
the
hood
by
people
that
don't
live
in
our
neighborhood.
Our
neighborhood
is
the
most
ethnically
diverse
new
road
in
Salt,
Lake
City
and
over
and
over
we
hear
from
the
residents
of
my
community
that
police
aren't
available.
They
call
and
they're
told
well
their
higher
priority
items.
A
police
can't
police,
the
officer
can't
come,
go
to
the
website,
fill
out
a
report
and
we'll
get
to
it.
My
house
was
broken
into
eight
times
over
six
years.
Q
A
A
E
A
A
motion
by
councilmember
kitchen
in
a
second
by
councilmember
Johnston,
all
those
in
favor
any
opposed
that
motion
passes
we're
on
to
Section
C
of
our
agenda.
Our
first
item
is
regarding
an
ordinance
amending
the
final
budget
for
the
library
budget
of
Salt
Lake
City
for
fiscal
year
2017
to
2018,
oh
I,.
E
F
A
B
A
A
Next
we
have
general
comments
and
again
similar
to
what
we
just
did.
I'll
call
people
two
at
a
time.
Please
be
respectful
of
the
time
when
our
staff
member
says
time.
I
would
ask
that
we
have
a
lot
of
people
who
want
to
speak
tonight.
So,
instead
of
me
asking
you
to
please
step
down
I'd
ask
that
you
please
be
respectful
today
of
the
time
that
we
have
so
everyone
gets
a
chance
with
that
said,
Robert
at
well
and
then
Clifford
Eccles.
Please.
R
Good
evening,
mayor
councilmembers,
my
name
is
Bob
at
well:
I
live
in
Salt,
Lake,
City
I'm
here
tonight
to
possibly
change
the
tone
of
some
of
the
conversation
I'd
share
with
you
to
start
with.
These
are
very
critical
comments
that
you've
been
hearing
for
the
last
half
hour,
I'm
here
tonight
to
talk
about
golf.
So
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
change.
I
have
been
very
active
with
this
council
in
the
mayor's
office
over
the
course
of
the
last
two
years.
R
Looking
at
the
golf
program,
we
have
responded
to
your
RFP
and
your
RFI
in
the
last
two
years.
We
note
that
you
continue
to
publicize
that
you
have
about
a
twenty
five
million
dollar
deferred
maintenance
budget,
and
you
also
are
running
at
about
a
seven
hundred
thousand
dollar
rate
right
now.
As
far
as
not
having
enough
revenue
coming
in
this
is
year
over
year
over
year.
One
of
the
things
that
I'd
like
to
share
with
you
is
the
members
of
the
group
that
I
have
brought
together.
R
These
are
members
who
were
presidents
of
the
PGA
associated
with
the
USGA,
and
the
NCAA
would
like
to
continue
to
sponsor
our
option
that
you
outsource
the
operations
of
the
golf
here
in
Utah.
It's
not
to
sell
the
courses
is
to
keep
the
public
lands
open
and
free
to
the
members
of
our
community,
but
it
is
to
allow
you
to
climb
out
from
underneath
a
$700,000
per
year,
annual
deficit.
We
believe
that
there
is
a
very
simple
way
to
accomplish.
We
would
like
the
opportunity
to
continue.
R
The
second
thing
I'd
like
to
support
is
that
golf
is
in
this
country.
Now,
one
of
the
sports
most
most
able
to
deliver
diversity
and
inclusion,
more
women,
more
people
of
color
are
coming
to
the
game
of
golf
than
any
other
sport
in
our
country.
Right
now,
as
young
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
believe
in
that
our
mayor
and
my
council
believe
is
diversity.
Inclusion.
This
game
supports
those
particular
values,
and
we
do
believe
that
we
have
the
ability
to
reduce
your
deficit
to
zero.
R
A
I
I
Your
housing
director
lived
like
three
blocks
away.
Mr.
post
good
man
comes
from
a
great
family,
he
did
not
know
what
transpired
in
that
garage.
It's
not
a
warehouse,
it's
the
garage,
as
I
said
before,
as
well
as
the
stream
behind
it
and
the
person
that
bought
the
project
didn't
know
about
that.
So
I
think
between
the
mayor
city,
council,
housing
people
you
bought
off
more
than
you
can
chew,
and
it
kind
of
reminds
me
of
what
happened
just
up
in
sugarhouse
ouch.
S
I'm
here
once
again
about
capital
motel
and
what
you
guys
have
done
are
going
to
do.
I
wish
that
every
one
of
you
guys
had
your
parents
living
in
this
kind
of
a
problem
that
you
guys
are
doing.
I
can
only
wish
that
that
would
happen
to
you
and
how
sad
it
it
is.
I'm
not
sleeping
well.
I
am
very,
very
hurt.
I
I've
worked
on
Mendenhall's
election
I've
worked
on
our
mayor's
election
and
I
won't
be
helping
them
ever
again.
S
Don't
know
what
we're
going
to
do
about
any
of
this,
but
I
know
that
you
guys
doing
what
you're
doing
doesn't
have
a
care
in
the
world
about
what
it's
doing
to
me
because
you're
not
on
in
my
shoes,
you
don't
have
the
problems
that
I'm
going
to
have
if
I
stay
and
I
could
only
wish
that
on
every
one
of
you
guys
what
what
it
will
do,
because
I
am
just
so
sad.
The
tiny
my
City
Council
would
do
this
to
me
and
I
know
you
guys,
don't
speak,
but
you
can't.
G
G
Your
area
has
a
bunch
of
buses
that
go
around
in
a
super
milk
run
zigzag,
and
even
your
report
mentioned
that
to
meet
title,
four
I
think
it
is
requirements
that
go
in
a
zigzag
which
actually
discourages
ridership
on
mass
transit.
Those
routes
on
the
west
side
need
to
go
straight
through,
for
instance,
redwood
road
should
be
going
to
the
airport.
Why
not
so
you're?
Not
talking
about
that
you're
talking
about
upgrading
second
south
second
South
has
a
good
bus
system.
15
minutes
that
works.
You
don't
need
to
go
down
to
seven
minutes.
G
You
don't
need
to
pour
in
money
in
projects.
You
need
to
have
a
better
bus
system
that
people
want
to
ride
and
the
Westside
really
really
needs
it.
Before
you
spend
any
money
on
projects,
you
should
be
spending
the
money
on
better
mass
transit
service,
especially
late
at
night
and
on
weekends.
You
really
want
to
encourage
mass
transit
use,
that's
best
way,
a
Venusian,
a
straight
shot
in,
but
again
it's
a
zigzag.
If
you
look
at
the
map
on
the
proposal,
it
doesn't
work
like
that.
G
G
C
G
F
F
Does
it
happen
just
because
someone
decides
to
be
a
criminal
crime
happens
because
a
therein
very
few
or
no
other
choices,
for
somebody
to
accomplish
the
goals
that
they
have
on
their
life,
which
is
survival
of
the
least
among
us
and
the
most
oppressed
among
us
or
number
two,
because
their
very
life
style
has
been
criminalized
by
bodies
such
as
this
one
right
we
made
it
a
crime
to
be
homeless.
In
this
city
we
made
it
a
crime
to
arrest
people
who
are
sleeping
on
the
street
because
they
don't
have
a
home.
F
We
made
it
a
crime
to
arrest
people
because
they
had
a
little
bit
of
weed
which,
by
the
way,
is
legal
in
several
other
states.
Now
right,
so
we're
either
putting
people
in
positions
where
they
have
no
other
options
but
to
commit
crime
or
we're
criminalizing
they're,
very
lifestyles
and
they're,
very
behaviors
to
begin
with.
F
So
what
we
need
to
do,
what
would
be
a
better
use
of
every
single
dollar
that
you're,
considering
appropriating
to
new
police
officers,
would
be
more
services,
more
jobs,
programs,
more
affordable
housing
of
more
money
for
our
libraries,
more
money
for
technology
right,
these
kinds
of
things
are
what
will
be
useful
for
us.
These
are
the
things
that
will
actually
reduce
crime.
Every
single
dollar
that
we
spend
on
alleviating
social
problems
and
economic
problems
in
our
community
is
the
real
way
that
we're
going
to
solve
crime.
F
We
will
never
arrest
our
way
out
of
these
problems.
We
will
never
shoot
our
way
out
of
crime
in
this
city.
We
will
never
shoot
and
arrest
our
way
out
of
racism
and
oppression
in
this
city.
If
you're
going
to
spend
money
to
solve
the
problems
that
crime
is,
has
either
created
or
the
problems
that
create
crime.
To
begin
with,
you
should
be
spending
money
on
services,
affordable,
housing,
education
and
jobs.
That's
what
we
should
be.
Thank
you.
A
L
All
right
so
round
two,
so,
as
you
all
have
heard,
many
of
us
have
dealt
in
the
increase
that
cops
can
have
on
communities
and
I
just
want
a
second
or
anything
that
was
been
said.
I
had
the
privilege
to
listen
to
the
council
work
session.
I
try
to
go
into
those
as
often
as
I
can,
and
the
idea
that
I
really
liked
was
a
council
he's.
L
The
council
lobbyist
is
a
really
great
idea,
I
think
if
that
lobbyist
person
can
be
somehow
connected
to
more
to
different
parts
of
maybe
like
invisible
communities
here
in
Salt,
Lake
City
I
think
they'll
be
really
beneficial
to
someone
fighting
for
different
communities
but
on
the
hill.
I
think.
That's
a
really
awesome
idea.
Next,
I
want
to
highlight
the
Salt
Lake
City
ambassadors
program
that
was
highlighted
in
the
work
session
and
I.
Think
that
was
a
really
awesome
thing.
L
But
I
only
heard
during
the
work
session
that
you
all
wanted
to
increase
about
$50,000
and
it's
been
working
really
great
I
think
we
should
go
higher
with
that.
Honestly
I
haven't
been
able
to
look
in-depth
into
the
program,
however,
I
think
they
deserve
a
much
more
allocation
of
the
funds.
There
is
a
difference
between
them
and
the
police
officers,
no
guns
and
educated
in
social
work
and
I
think
that's
has
done.
L
Marvelous
work,
I
read
a
few
articles
on
them
in
the
in
the
news
and
it
showed
that
they
were
able
to
rehabilitate
different
individuals
on
the
street,
so
I
think
it's
a
really
great
program
and
I
will
love
more
from
for
more
of
the
police
funds
to
go
into
the
Salt
Lake
City
ambassadors
project,
that's
endorsed
by
the
downtown
Alliance,
and
that
also
just
a
quick
mention
more
clarification.
The
community
liaison
the
community
intelligence
unit.
It's
not
that
I'm
against
I
a
particular,
but
rather
the
term
I'm
more
for
demographic
representation.
A
H
Had
to
smile
because
nothing
changes,
we
just
go
around
in
circles:
I
refuse
to
do
that,
I'm
too
old
to
screw
around
and
do
the
same
dumb,
stupid
things
all
over
again.
That
I've
seen
done
for
the
last
all
my
entire
lifetime.
The
gentleman
that
was
just
come
up
here
and
talked
about
golf.
My
wife
chased
them
out
of
here
following
them
on
the
hallway
I'm
gonna
start
a
golf
program
for
the
homeless
and
I'm
gonna.
H
Do
it
within
a
month
and
I'm
gonna
have
them
on
the
golf
course
and
I'll
have
the
same
numbers
we
have
in
our
Tai
Chi
program.
We
have
the
largest
physical
activity
program
from
the
homeless,
probably
in
the
country,
and
who
talks
to
us.
Nobody,
because
it's
different
it
doesn't
fit
into
the
mold
of
what
the
current
dynamic
considers
success
or
what
success
looks
like.
We
have
a
home
escy
program.
I'm
talking
to
too
scary
is
the
homeless,
can
Sookie
sure
they
can
we're
gonna,
have
a
homeless,
keep
okay
I'm
at
two
ski
resorts.
H
Next,
with
her
with
no
help
from
any
any
government
organization,
we
don't
want
any
government
money.
We
want.
None
of
your
money,
all
I
want
you
to
do,
is
think
and
start
thinking
about
new
ways
to
deal
with
our
problems,
because
I
haven't
heard
it
I
haven't
seen
it
from
the
mayor's
office
or
from
the
council
offers
from
the
County
mayor's
office
are
from
the
state.
There's
only
one
gentleman
that
ever
approached
me
with
a
new
idea
and
that's
representative
paul
r,
a
tightrope
walker.
H
A
Q
P
Q
Sideways
oriented
townhomes
are
packed
into
a
lot,
often
with
garages
on
the
first
floor
of
each
unit.
So
the
first
page
there's
photos
it
shows
it
meets
all
the
criteria.
Grouches.
On
all
first
floor,
it's
packed
edge
to
edge
on
the
property.
What
I
had
brought
up
the
last
time
I
spoke
was
there's
no
context
with
the
neighborhood
everything
around
it
is
brick.
This
is
all
stucco
I,
don't
know
how
this
got
approved
by
Planning,
but
as
more
and
more
infill
happens
to
increase
density
to
increase
housing,
affordable
housing.
Q
Q
Let's
learn
from
Denver's
mistakes.
Let's
look
at
this.
Let's,
let's
come
up
with
an
approach.
The
last
piece
is
a
document
that
was
commissioned
by
Denver
and
it
comes
it
has
strategies
for
how
to
address
this
and
how
to
move
forward.
I
would
ask
I
would
beg
you
to
start
a
discussion
about
this
again.
Q
Let's
learn
from
Denver's
mistake:
let's
not
repeat
their
mistakes,
let's
do
responsible
growth
and
responsible
density
for
our
city
and,
if
you
again,
if
you
haven't
driven
by
620,
1700
south
I,
honestly
encourage
you
to
do
it
and
see
what's
there
and
that
just
cannot
be
repeated
in
our
city,
especially
in
established
neighborhoods.
Thank
you
thank.
A
B
I
got
a
letters
from
you
about.
You
know,
closing
down,
Road
and
I
know
sooner
or
later,
we'll
do
that,
but
I'm
still
trying
to
find
not
properly
to
locate
my
business.
But
at
this
point
you
know
at
first
I
found
several
of
them,
but
it's
the
cost.
Its
cost
a
lot
more
than
what
the
city
offered
me.
So
that's
why
it's
that's
a
hotel
and
I
said:
can
there's
a
big
guy?
B
B
That's
it,
that's
it
a
thought,
but
it
you
know
if
it's
the
price,
reasonable
and
I.
Definitely
you
know
move
on,
but
it
had
to
be.
You
know
something
that
I
I
can
afford
to
move,
because
the
way
the
city
talk
you
know
is
really
like.
You
know
what
the
city
you
offer
me.
The
way
they
offer
me
is
1/4
of
the
price
that
I
can
buy
the
same
building
somewhere
else.
I
really
can't.
A
Thank
you.
Okay,
with
that,
we
will
move
on.
We
have
no
new
business,
we're
at
section
F
our
unfinished
business.
Our
first
item,
F
1,
is
regarding
a
resolution
that
would
amend
and
ratify
a
taskforce
agreement
between
DEA
Metro
narcotics
and
the
Salt
Lake
City
Police
Department
I'll,
look
for
a
motion.