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A
A
B
C
A
That
means
you
can
blame
you,
hello,
all
right,
we're
in
business
good
afternoon
and
welcome
to
the
Redevelopment
Agency
meeting
for
July
10th
2018
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
kick
this
meeting
off,
starting
with
general
comments
to
the
board
of
directors.
I've
got
a
number
of
comment
cards
here.
If
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
fill
one
of
these
light
green
cards
out,
you
can
take
one
right
now
and
I
hand
it
to
a
staff
member.
A
D
Okay,
I'm
gonna
try
to
go
fast,
but
I
want
to
give
a
little
bit
of
background,
because
many
of
you
heard
about
the
background
of
japantown.
But
we
are
repeating
history
in
a
lot
of
ways.
Unfortunately,
now
in
the
present
day,
with
the
border,
no
due
process,
and
that's
particularly
eerily
familiar
to
the
Japanese
community,
what
happened
with
no
due
process
and
we're
incarcerated?
The
Japanese
community
has
been
here
over
a
hundred
years
in
the
area
that
we
are
talking
about.
The
salt
palace
destroyed
the
thriving
Japan
town.
D
They
were
told
that
it
would
be
put.
The
salt
palace
would
be
put
where
the
County
Building
is
now,
but
it
wasn't
and
then
the
later
expansion
caused
the
community
to
be
the
back
door
again
of
the
salt
palace
hotel.
Then
the
convention
hotel
was
another
issue.
They
said
they're
moving
it
away
from
block
67,
but
now
well
here
in
the
RDA
I
mean
in
the
rezone
hearing
that
it's
actually
they
want
to
do
a
convention
style
hotel.
D
There
too,
and
this
incident
we
were
contacted
early
on
about
trying
to
sell
our
property
or
alcohol,
and
that's
all
that
we
were
given,
and
so
we
didn't
have
a
seat
at
the
table.
So
each
time
something
happens,
it
negatively.
Lee
has
impacted
the
community,
but
we
have
survived
and
we
will
fight
to
survive.
It's
not
just
our
community
anymore.
It's
the
chin
and
the
Polynesians
who
share
our
church.
D
D
We
had
asked
and
we've
been
meeting
with
the
City
and
County
on
this,
that
they
come
in
through
3rd
West,
instead
of
right
in
front
of
our
church,
where
the
garbage
and
all
that
would
come,
come
in
on
3rd
west
and
leave
on
their
property,
and
that
would
obviate
a
lot
of
the
problems
that
we
have.
So
please
don't
make
this
about
money
about
high-density,
we're
using
public
funds
and
we
love
the
opportunity
to
write
direct.
This
is
a
golden
opportunity
to
direct
this
development
in
the
right
way.
Thank.
A
E
E
The
Japanese
community
is
something
that
I
think
Salt
Lake
City
should
take
into
consideration,
because
diversity
in
the
city
I
found
out
is
very
small
in
regards
particularly
the
Asian
community
and
the
Japanese
community.
I
think
is
one
diamond
that
you
could
probably
polish
and
you
know,
restore
if
possible,
so
I'd
encourage
you
to
do
everything
you
can
to
do
that.
Thank.
A
F
Okay:
let's
talk
about
the
fifteen
million
dollars
you're,
considering
giving
to
the
Ritchie
group.
Ritchie
group
is
actually
a
pretty
good
developer,
good
reputation,
but
you're
talking
about
giving
50
million
dollars
for
one
level
of
public
parking.
At
the
same
time,
you
discourage
public
parking,
lots
downtown.
You
actually
stopped
the
silliest
Priscus
and
several
of
his
properties
from
turning
into
parking
lots.
F
This
is
like
an
insult
to
developers
and
vasilia
spris
cose,
because
if
he
can't
do
a
parking
lot
downtown
for
free
you're,
giving
15
million
dollars
to
Ricci
group
for
a
public
level
parking
lot,
you
should
not
do
this
until
you
redo
your
demolition
ordinance
and
consider
whether
or
not
you
really
do
have
enough
parking
downtown
or
not,
because
you're
actually
discouraging
everybody
from
doing
parking,
lots
downtown
and
at
the
same
time,
oh,
my
gosh
you're,
giving
fifteen
million
dollars
to
somebody
to
do
a
parking
level,
a
parking
lot
under
ground.
Last
time.
F
You
did
this,
you
actually
ruined
walkability
in
sugarhouse,
you
increased
air
pollution
and
you
destroyed
the
librarians
had
to
park
in
an
unsafe
area,
the
Meechum
building
the
view
when
you
gave
them
7
million
dollars.
He
ended
up
$10
minimum
parking
charge,
which
resulted
in
every
other
parking
lot
around
the
area
putting
in
a
2
hour
maximum.
So
you
can't
just
park
and
walk
around
for
four
or
five
hours
in
sugarhouse
anymore.
That's
how
bad
it
is.
F
Air
pollution
increase,
that's
something
Salt,
Lake
City
did
so
I'm
asking
you
not
to
do
15
million
dollars
to
the
Ritchie
group,
a
great
company
because
you
need
Salt,
Lake
City
needs
a
better
demolition
ordinance.
Salt
Lake
City
needs
to
get
their
act
together
regarding
parking
lots
and
you
need
to
find
out
how
to
make
sure
any
money
you
give
for
a
parking
lot
isn't
misused
by
developers
and
on
the
backs
of
taxpayers
and
businesses
in
the
area.
G
Hi,
this
is
gonna,
be
very
impromptu.
I'm,
a
member
of
the
Salt
Lake
Buddhist
temple
I'd
like
to
invite
all
of
you.
There
they're
having
their
annual
album
festival
this
Saturday,
it's
a
community
event.
It's
open
to
the
public,
they'll
completely
closed
down
for
South,
we'll
have
thousands
of
people,
it's
a
festival
to
honor
your
ancestors,
and
so
we
don't
want,
and
also
from
the
Japanese
Church
of
Christ
on
the
other
corner.
G
They
invite
you
to
their
100-year
celebration
on
August
25th,
so
the
community's
been
there
are.
The
two
churches
have
been
there
for
over
a
hundred
years
in
2012,
I.
Think
this
all
like
Buddhist
temples
celebrated
their
100
years.
My
concern
is:
is
I'm
all
for
development,
but
my
concern
is
the
development
overruns,
the
voices
of
the
two
long-standing
churches
and
I
just
don't
want
it
to
get
drowned
out.
G
If
you
put
in
apartments
that
have
potentially
five
or
six
hundred
apartments
and
we
close
down
the
streets,
the
two
churches
will
close
down
the
streets,
maybe
three
or
four
times
a
year
that
you're
gonna
have
1,500
or
2,000
residents,
they're
complaining
against
to
church
entities
and
our
voices
will
get
drowned
out
by
those
1500
or
2000
residents.
Where
you've
had
two
community
churches
there
that
have
been
represented
there
for
over
a
hundred
years
and
I.
G
A
C
Thank
you
very
much.
I'm
Karen
Kwan
I
am
a
member
of
the
House
of
Representatives,
but
of
course,
today
I
come
as
a
citizen
and
a
member
of
the
Chinese
community.
Probably
all
of
you
know,
plum
alley
and
where
it
is
and
you've
seen
it,
and
you
can
imagine
what
Chinatown
looked
like
at
the
time.
But
most
of
our
you
tones,
don't
know
plum
alley
and
I
am
constantly
surprised
at
how
many
of
our
Chinese
community
don't
know
about
plum
alley.
C
A
You,
mr.
Quan,
all
right.
Anybody
else
speak
now
or
forever
hold
your
peace
all
right.
Moving
on,
we
have
a
public
hearing
today,
item
B
around
to
amend
the
fiscal
year,
2018
2019
RDA
budget.
This
is
primarily
focused
on
the
excellence
in
community
concerts.
We
have
not
yet
received
our
transmittal.
Is
that
correct
I?
Don't.
H
Believe
we
have,
but
it's
it's
probably
on
its
way,
and
so
just
from
a
procedural
standpoint,
if
the
board
could
continue
the
public
hearing,
it's
already
been
noticed,
so
we
sort
of
a
required
legally
to
have
it,
but
just
so
that
we
satisfy
our
noticing
requirements.
If
you
could
continue
the
public
hearing
and
take
action
at
the
August
meeting,
that
would
help.
A
A
It's
been
moved
by
more
board
member
Mendenhall
in
a
second
by
board.
Vice
chair
Fowler,
all
those
in
favor
that
motion
carries.
We
are
on
to
item
2
c2.
This
is
a
predisposition
property
report,
as
required
by
RDA
board
policy
for
528
arctic
court.
It
looks
like
we
have
Susan
Wright,
SUSE,
SUSE
and
Danny
at
the
table.
Hey
guys.
J
L
The
I
am
gonna
just
give
a
brief
update
on
a
predisposition
report,
and
then
we
also
have
David
Emmett
here
in
the
audience
from
Preservation
Utah.
If
there's
other
specific
questions
about
the
project,
but
it's
a
joint
renovation
between
the
RDA
and
preservation
Utah,
which
was
formerly
Utah,
Heritage
Foundation,
the
renovations
nearly
complete
and
preservation.
Utah
is
just
finalizing.
A
I
L
I
L
I
L
I
A
A
M
Can
briefly
provide
some
context
to
the
funding
request
and
then
Christian,
Riker
and
Nancy
Monteith
are
here
from
parks
and
public
lands.
If
there
are
specific
questions
on
the
project,
so
parks
and
public
lands
is
working
on
a
pioneer
Park
project
of
which
the
scope
is
a
new
multi-purpose
field,
walking
path,
lighting
and
tree
plantings.
M
The
project's
estimated
cost
was
850
thousand
previously,
with
only
550
coming
from
the
capital
improvement
program
and
the
balance
coming
from
the
Pioneer
Park
coalition,
as
it
turns
out
the
project's
currently
in
the
bidding
phase,
and
the
bids
have
come
back
higher
than
previously
anticipated.
So
there's
a
$90,000
funding
gap
and
parks
and
public
lands
has
submitted
a
request.
That's
70
thousand
dollars
of
this
be
covered
by
the
RDA
and
then
the
remaining
balance
they're
gonna
ask
for
the
additional
funds
from
the
Pioneer
Park
coalition.
M
It's
really
important
that
these
funds
be
secured
on
in
a
timely
manner
because
the
but
the
bid
needs
to
be
awarded
by
the
end
of
July
or
it
they
have
to
put
it
out
for
rebid.
So,
there's
a
timeliness
to
this
funding
request
and
if
the
board
wishes
funds
may
be
appropriated
from
a
none
appropriated
holding
account
for
capital
improvement
projects
through
the
funding
year
2019
budget
process,
the
RDA
staff,
we
had
actually
proposed
that
these
funds
be
used
for
a
downtown
placemaking
incentive
program
for
public
spaces
within
the
central
business
district.
M
So
the
nature
of
this
project
kind
of
fits
with
that
previous
budget
proposal
through
the
funding
year,
2019
budget.
So
if
the
board
wishes
today,
it's
my
understanding
that
you
could
appropriate
these
funds
through
motion
and
as
I
said,
Kristin,
Ryker
and
Nancy
Monteith
are
here
and
they
can
speak
more
to
the
Capital
Improvement
Program
funds
and
there's
a
cost
overrun
account.
I
know
there
are
questions
around
that,
so
I'll
turn
it
over.
Thank.
A
I
You,
and
perhaps
this
is
a
question
for
Nancy
and
Kristen
I-
wanted
to
just
get
an
update
on
the
availability
of
parks,
impact
fees
and
how
that
account
is
looking
in
terms
of
the
timeliness
of
this
happening
and
whether
or
not
there's
any
impact
fees
burning
a
hole
in
our
pocket
that
we'll
have
to
return
in
the
short
term.
If
we
don't
spend
them
right.
J
J
J
So
we
didn't
approach
the
impact
fee
direction
for
funding
in
part,
for
the
same
reason
that
we
didn't
approach
the
cost
overrun
the
cost
overrun
initially
were.
We
were
under
the
impression
that
there
wasn't
enough
funding
in
that
account,
and
the
other
portion
of
this,
which
affects
both
impact
fees
as
well
as
cost
overrun,
is
that
it
would
require
a
budget
amendment
and
the
next
budget
amendment
for
fiscal
year.
L
J
J
Part
of
the
reason
why
we're
not
replanting
them
in
Pioneer
Park
at
this
time
is
because
the
park
we
feel
is
going
to
undergo.
We
hope
is
going
to
undergo
some
changes
and
we
don't
want
to
plant
trees
where
we
may
end
up
putting
restrooms
or
a
stage
or
whatever
else
the
community
decides
they
want,
and
we
hope
to
plant
more
trees
in
that
Park,
but
feel
at
this
time.
If
we
planted
53
more
trees,
it
would
really
limit
us
as
to
what
we
can
do
in
the
future.
A
N
J
The
project
was
kind
of
split
into
two
areas
in
the
first
area,
is
to
open
up
the
center
and
provide
the
sidewalks.
It
was
split
with
the
lighting
and
the
coalition
was
very
interested
in
contributing
to
this
project
and
they
had
committed
about
300
well,
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
lighting.
J
When
the
bids
came
in
the
the
lighting,
the
physical
lighting
itself
came
in
at
three
hundred
and
seventeen
thousand
and
change,
and
so
the
way
we
came
about
the
split
was
just
based
on
the
fact
that
the
lighting
is
the
physical
lighting
is
three
seventeen.
Actually,
the
lighting
cost
more
like
four
hundred
and
eighty
thousand.
Wouldn't
you
talk
about
all
the
electrical
and
the
board's
and
that
kind
of
thing
and
design
that
has
to
go
into
it.
J
J
J
A
J
L
We
are
committing
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
park
construction,
and
this
was
initially
I
think
that
the
Pioneer
Park
coalition
we've
been
having
this
conversation
with
the
city
about
doing
this
work
together
for
some
time,
we're
very
excited
about
this
project
and
looking
forward
to
working
with
the
city.
Initially,
we
had
committed
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
to
to
help
the
city
with
this
construction,
and
then
this
recent
iteration
we
bump
that
up
to
three
hundred
thousand
to
try
and
capture
lighting.
L
At
this
time
we
are
I
mean
we
are
interested
in
seeing
if
the
RDA
would
cover
that
full
90,000
and
if
that's
not
something
you
have
the
appetite
to
do,
then
I
think
we
can
have
that
conversation
with
our
board,
but
20,000
might
not
sound
like
a
significant
addition
to
300,000,
but
300,000
was
twice
my
approved
budget,
essentially
at
the
start
of
this
year.
So
it's
it
is
a
significant
amount
for
us
love
to
see
the
project
happen.
L
K
K
The
fiscal
year,
nineteen
budget-
it
was
three
hundred
and
forty
four
thousand
dollars
that
we
set
aside
its
its
unallocated
this
time
it's
in
the
CIP
holding
or
the
capital
projects
holding
accounts
for
the
agency.
So
we
felt
that,
given
the
description
of
what
those
funds
were
intended
for,
placemaking
open
space
downtown
that
this,
these
improvements
of
the
park
fit
that,
and
so
that
was
money
that
could
come
and
be
allocated
through
the
board
by
way
of
motion
and
be
available
to
still
make
it
possible
to
accept
this
bid
for
the
park.
Improvements,
I
guess.
I
I
I'd
be
I'm
interested
in
doing
making
a
motion
for
the
full
amount
and
I
haven't
talked
to
my
peers
about
this.
But
I
am
feeling
sensitive
that
today's
July
10th,
you
have
a
very
rapidly
approaching
date
by
which
you
need
to
have
that
those
funds
secured
to
commence
with
your
contract
opportunities
and
I
think
that
this
money
does
fit
the
placemaking
intent
of
the
344
that
we
set
aside
in
our
budget.
So
mr.
chair
may
make
a
motion
would.
A
A
The
urgency
with
this
bidding
process
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
moving
forward
quickly
so
I
understand
the
the
need
of
turning
to
RTA
for
these
funds
instead
of
going
through
the
budget
amendment
process,
but
ideally
this
should
be
funded
through
the
cost.
Overrun
account
board
members,
at
least
that's
my
opinion.
H
A
K
Idea
with
that
was
twofold,
one:
to
make
it
available
to
developers
who
were
doing
projects
downtown
to
see
if
they
could
incorporate
public
space
or
plazas
within
those
developments
and/or
to
go
and
target
and
and
accumulate
funds
to
where
we
could
potentially
target
an
existing
plaza.
That
maybe
was
in
need
of
repair
and
improvements.
So
right
now
it
was
just
an
allocation
of
funds
and
then,
given
that
they
were
secured,
we
would
go
on
target
opportunities.
I.
K
That's
that's
a
great
question
and
I
I
laugh
because
court
is
actually
probably
the
best
one
to
to
answer
that,
and
so
we
have
those
conversations.
But
placemaking
is
essentially
any
public
space
that
we
feel
would
either
be
active
through
passive
or
active
programming
available
to
public
use,
something
that
would
be
viewed
as
an
amenity
within
downtown
something
that
would
offer
itself
to
either
programming
of
concerts
events
or
just
passive
use
by
by
the
public.
This.
M
Program
we
were
looking
specifically
at
enhancing
public
spaces,
providing
more
of
an
identity
to
the
downtown
area
and
then
also,
we
specifically
said
improving
pedestrian
flow
through
the
area.
So,
whether
that's
through
enhanced
public
spaces
or
mid
block
walkways,
we
feel
the
Pioneer
Park
Park
project
meets
that
because
they're
opening
up
the
center
they're
putting
in
new
sidewalks,
so
there
we'll
be
enhanced
flow
through
the
park.
Another
criteria
of
the
program
funding
we
said:
we'd
leverage
it
with
private
investment
and
we're
doing
that
in
this
instance,
as
well
through
the
Pioneer
Park
coalition's
investment,
okay,.
J
H
Actually,
a
little
bit,
maybe
just
a
little
nuanced-
the
the
administration
can
administrative
Lea
approve
use
of
the
cost
over
an
account
it
has
to
do
with
the
total
project
budget.
So
if
it's
ten
percent
more
than
the
total
project
budget,
the
administration
can
administrative
Lea
prove
use
of
the
cost
over
an
account.
I
think
when
been
calculated,
that
this
was
slightly
more
than
ten
percent,
and
so
that
would
need
to
come
back
to
the
council.
H
A
Just
my
quick
back
of
the
envelope
calculation
at
the
original
850
would
be
$85,000.
10%
would
be
$85,000,
so
it
it's
of
a
new
number.
The
10%
applies
to
the
new
number,
the
actual
amount.
Okay,
so
we're
looking
at
ninety
four
thousand
instead
of
okay,
so
I
guess
I,
don't
want
to
get
into
the
details
too
much
but
I.
My
proposal
to
the
board
is
that
we
fund
this
today,
either
70,000
or
90,000
I'm
agnostic
about
the
amount,
but
I
would
like
for
this
to
come
out
of
the
CIP
cost
overrun
account.
O
K
H
Chair
could
we
have
friendly
suggestion
now
that
impact
fees
were
raised
and
there
are
potentially
even
a
small
amount
of
impact
fees
that
would
need
to
be
refunded
soon,
that
we
also
asked
the
administration
to
look
at
potentially
using
some
impact
fees
that
would
otherwise
need
to
be
refunded,
in
addition
to
the
cost
over
an
account
just
so
that
we're
not
sort
of
missing
that
opportunity.
Great.
I
A
A
Improvement,
cost
overrun
and
now
my
proposal
is
that
we
fund
it
today
from
the
downtown
placemaking
and
request
that
the
administration
come
back
to
us
with
a
proposal
to
make
whole
the
downtown
placemaking
account
through
the
cost,
overrun
account
and
also
have
them
look
into
the
park.
Impact
fees,
possibilities
sound
good
all
in
favor.
A
That
motion
carries
six
to
zero.
Any
other
questions
awesome
all
right
thanks!
You
guys.
We
are
moving
on
to
item
C
4,
which
is
a
consideration
for
block
67
or
parking
structure,
block
67
at
the
table.
Today
we
have,
we
have
a
full
table
all
right.
We
have
Danny
waltz
court,
Utley
Jill,
Wilkerson,
Smith,
Allison
Rowland
from
the
council
office,
and
we
also
have
our
deputy
director
Jennifer
Bruno.
Next
to
me,
who
can
help
answer
any
questions
as
well?
P
A
P
So
this
is
a
relatively
complex
proposal,
and
staff
has
done
our
best
to
try
to
understand
it
and
I'll.
Give
you
the
presentation
of
what
we
do
understand
as
of
today
and
I
hope
that
the
RDA
staff
and
others
will
will
correct
us
if
we
have
things
wrong.
The
goal
today
is
really
about
considering
the
initial
steps
toward
funding
an
underground
parking
structure
as
part
of
the
large-scale
development
on
block
67.
So
these
are
just
the
initial
steps:
they're,
not
a
yes
or
no
on
the
development
project
itself.
P
Specifically,
the
Kathy
board
has
asked
today
to
consider
the
adoption
of
two
proposed
resolutions.
The
first
would
approve
an
interlocal
agreement
with
Salt
Lake
County
that
one
allows
the
transfer
of
15
million
incentive
to
the
developer
via
the
city
and
the
RDA,
and
two
commits
the
city
to
a
timeline
of
actions
to
facilitate
the
removal
of
some
of
this
property
from
the
CBD
to
create
a
new
CRA
I
just
realized
why
things
look
blurry
to
me,
because
my
glasses
are
in
my
pocket
much
better.
P
The
second
proposed
resolution
would
be
to
authorize
RDA
staff
to
prepare
a
draft
Community
Reinvestment
project
area
plan
for
block
67.
This
resolution
would
authorize
the
beginning
of
work
on
this
plan.
It
would
not
bind
the
board
to
a
tax,
increment
reimbursement
structure,
so
it
would
just
be
getting
clearer
the
essentially
the
financials
involved
with
the
project.
P
The
project
itself,
as
you
know,
is
on
block
67,
which
is
just
west
of
the
salt
palace,
it's
bounded
by
first
and
second
south
and
by
second
and
third
west,
the
project
developers
Richie
group,
and
it
would
be
a
mixed-use
products
use
project
that
would
include
residential
commercial
and
office
space,
and
that
would
include
retail,
dining
and
hotels.
It
would
also
include
this
large
parking
structure
which
will
have
some
spaces
commercially
available
to
the
public.
The
total
amount
of
private
investment
could
reach
about
450
million
and
that's
currently
structured
in
two
phases.
P
The
complicated
stuff
starts
with
the
proposed
funding.
What
Salt,
Lake
County
coordinated
with
the
developer
on
this
proposal,
the
developer
would
request
an
initial
incentive
or
is
requesting
an
initial
incentive
of
15
million
dollars.
The
county
would
provide
this
amount
through
the
Utah
State
Transportation
Fund
for
a
new
item
referred
to
as
a
regionally
significant
transportation
facility,
the
county
would
pay
pay
the
state
back
through
an
authorized
funding.
P
An
ism
that
increases
motor
vehicle
fees
collected
by
the
county,
so
county
has
greater
collections,
they're
able
to
reimburse
that
15
million
provided
by
the
state
for
this
regionally
significant
transportation
facility.
The
county
would
then
be
reimbursed
by
Salt
Lake
City's
tax
increment
from
the
area,
which
would
likely
be
75%
of
the
total
over
a
twenty
five
year.
Project
agreement
and
council
staff
understands
that
this
fund
would
then
be
repurposed
for
our
future,
regionally
significant
transportation
projects.
P
I
I
You've
done
an
incredible
job
on
the
staff
report,
but
just
on
that
point
to
make
sure
that
I'm
clear
about
it,
the
15
million
reimbursement
from
the
county
to
the
state
would
happen
through
the
increase
in
the
motor
vehicle
fees,
not
from
our
tax
increment.
So
then,
the
tax
increment,
seventy
five
percent
that
we
could
potentially
collect
and
for
25
years
distribute
back
to
the
county
would
be
to
recreate
the
fund
from
which
the
15
million
would
be
that.
P
H
Mr.
chair
I
can
just
jump
in
here
to
a
little
bit.
Is
that
a
lot
of
these
kind
of
technical
details
are
we
understand
through
communications,
that
the
administration
has
had
with
the
county
they're,
not
necessarily
written
down
in
the
interlocal
agreement
itself,
and
so
these
are
a
lot
of
the
questions
that
we
have
that
we'd
like
to
get
in
writing
at
some
point.
P
We
have
also
included
a
number
of
those
as
policy
questions,
these
sort
of
details
that
were
scratching
our
heads
about
trying
to
make
sure
we
understand.
Well,
those
are
the
policy
questions
are
listed
out
individually,
pulled
out
of
the
staff
report
on
a
sheet
that
I
believe
was
sent
to
you
yesterday
and
that's
in
your
packets
and
now
with
the
packet
online.
P
Now.
Another
thing
we
have
we
understand
a
staff
is
that,
in
addition
to
the
15
million
dollar
incentive,
which
would
be
directed
toward
the
parking
structure,
the
developer
is
also
working
with
the
RTA
staff
to
have
a
larger
reimbursement
agreement.
But
this
is
not
yet
finalized.
The
the
actual
amount
has
not
yet
been
fixed
upon.
As
far
as
I
know
the
contrary
question
what
would
happen
if
the
board
does
not
approve
the
public
subsidy?
P
The
proposed
TI
reimbursement
also
would
require
establishing
a
new
CRA,
and
before
doing
this,
the
RDA
would
need
to
remove
the
southern
part
of
block
67
from
the
existing
CBD,
the
central
business
district.
So
that
would
be
another
step
in
the
process
and
we
have
a
summary
of
those
processes
in
the
staff
report.
A
P
Just
a
couple
more
items
such
as
share
one
is
the
alternative
to
adopting
these
resolutions.
If
the
board
chooses
not
to
adopt
these
resolutions,
the
process
would
terminate
and
the
administration
would
work
to
or
could
work.
I
should
say
with
the
developer,
to
try
to
identify
other
paths,
for
example
loan
or
a
tax
increment
reimbursement
that
would
still
fall
under
the
terms
of
the
current
CBD
project
area.
So
it
would
not
necessarily
be
a
rejection
of
the
project
itself.
P
P
This
has
been
set
up
very
similar
to
the
RDAs
tax
increment
reimbursement
program
policy,
which
it
approved
last
fall,
so
you
can
look
at
attachment,
1,
there's
a
flowchart
and
attachment
to
your
staff
report.
That
gives
you
an
idea,
sort
of
visual
idea
of
what
would
happen
it's,
but,
as
you
point
out
that
this
project
actually
technically
doesn't
qualify
for
the
RDA
tax
increment
reimbursement
program
policy,
because
it
is
not
the
expansion
of
an
existing
business,
it's
more
of
a
redevelopment
project.
A
L
L
P
P
To
finish
up
on
the
timeline,
so
in
the
August
or
September
council
meeting,
the
RDA
staff
would
transmit
a
resolution
amending
the
boundary
I'm.
Sorry,
this
is
the
August
or
September
council
meeting,
because
well
we'll
actually
have
to
do
things
both
in
the
council
meeting
and
the
RDA
shift.
That
board
wish
to
go
forward.
P
So
in
the
council
meeting,
the
council
would
receive
a
resolution
that
amends
the
boundary
of
the
downtown
CBD
project
area,
and
the
council
would
consider
that
as
a
taxing
entity,
whether
they
would
like
to
participate
in
that
this
is
similar
to
resolutions
that
would
be
provided
to
other
taxing
entities
for
their
consideration.
In
the
RDA
board
meeting,
the
RDA
would
consider
a
resolution
adopting
the
draft
CRA
plan
prepared
by
the
RDA
staff.
P
The
RDA
would
also
consider
the
staff's
evaluation
of
the
project's
reimbursement
application
based
on
both
a
third-party
financial
analysis
and
an
RDA
Finance
Committee
review.
There
would
begin
a
30-day
public
comment
period
and
the
board
would
hold
a
public
during
that
RDA
board
meeting
and
finally,
in
the
August
or
September
board
meeting
the
board
could
also
choose
not
to
adopt
those
resolutions.
P
The
resolutions
under
consideration
on
that
day
and
that
too,
would
terminate
the
process
and
suggest
that
the
RDA
perhaps
worked
to
use
other
mechanisms
to
work
with
this
project,
and
then
there
would
be
a
later
Council
meeting.
The
date
would
have
to
be
decided
later,
where
the
City
Council
would
provide
notice
of
the
beginning
of
a
review
period
for
the
CRA
plan
and
at
the
end
of
that
review
period,
the
counselor.
P
A
You
Alison,
you
know
without
diving
into
the
merits
of
the
Richie
project
itself.
This
does
present
a
number
of
policy
questions
for
the
RTA
and
I
think
the
biggest
one
for
me
right
now
is
well
there's
a
number
of
them
that
are
important,
but
the
one
that
comes
to
mind
is
the
issue
of
staff.
Time
and
I
would
appreciate.
I
can't
like
a
straightforward
response
from
the
administration
on
what
exactly
this
will
consume
by
way
of
staff
time.
We
are
in
the
process
of
creating
two
new
project
areas.
A
K
For
you
I
appreciate
the
question.
First,
let
me
before
I
really
get
into
the
details.
I
want
to
thank
Allison
for
all
of
her
work
on
this
and
the
rest
of
council
staff,
because
this
has
not
been
easy
to
sort
through
on
our
end.
So
I
can
imagine
and
appreciate
what
has
been
for
you.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Speaking
of
that
in
terms
of
staff
time,
we've
we've
already
invested
a
considerable
amount
of
staff
time
just
getting
it
to
this
point.
This
is
a
very
complex
development
and
project.
This
is
a
very
unique
request.
K
This
has
been
initiated
by
the
developer
in
terms
of
incentive
and
assistance
from
the
RTA,
and
it
was
done
so
in
a
way
that
the
request
was
made
with
the
sense
of
urgency
to
meet
their
timelines,
and
so
we've
invested
a
considerable
amount
of
time
just
to
get
it
to
this
point
and
get
it
prepared
for
today's
meeting
moving
forward.
This
would
continue
to
be
a
significant
amount
of
staff
time
to
meet
the
deadlines.
This
is
something
we've
expressed
to
the
developer
in
the
county
all
along.
K
Obviously,
we
have
those
resources
within
staff,
but
the
issue
for
us
has
been
the
same
that
when
we've
talked
to
you
about
any
other
projects
or
project
areas
that
we're
considering
either
creating
or
extending,
is
it's
a
choice,
and
when
we
brought
that
to
you
a
few
months
ago
with
some
of
the
other
ideas,
you
as
a
board
made
it
very
clear
that
your
priority
was
the
nine
line.
Stage
three
project
areas
and
nothing
is
to
slow
those
down,
and
we
have
honored
that
we
fully
intend
to
continue
on
that
timeline.
K
K
L
L
K
I
think
the
easy
answer
to
that
is
anytime.
You
have
a
developer
who's
willing
to
invest.
Four
hundred,
fifty
million
in
your
downtown.
That
I
think
on
the
surface
is
a
pro
I
think
when
that
investment
comes
with
it,
a
request
for
public
incentives
or
participation,
I
think
the
question
then,
from
a
policy
standpoint
comes
down
to
what
is
the
public
benefit
or
what
do
we
hope
to
accomplish
or
receive
out
of
this
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
that's
a
development
that
we
do
want
downtown
and
I?
N
This
is
maybe
a
more
of
a
County
question.
The
the
the
15
million
reimbursement
is
for
a
regionally
significant
transportation
project
which
is
parking
in
this
sense
right.
The
underground
parking,
but
there's
two
phases
that
I
understand
it.
Would
the
public
parking
be
part
of
the
second
phase
cuz
it
look
like
the
first
phase.
Doesn't
have
a
lot
of
public
accessible
parking
to
it,
but
Phase
two
would
have
the
bulk
of
that.
Is
that
accurate?
It.
L
L
Without
that
money
invested
in
the
project,
the
developer
is
going
to
do
what
they're
referring
to
is
the
but
for
option
which
Allison
refer
to
and
her
staff
mo
and
also
inter
comments,
which
is
the
two
residential
buildings,
the
apartment
buildings,
the
above-ground
parking
structure
in
the
center
of
the
block
and
in
the
hotel.
So
it's
a
it's
sort
of
a
choice
between
two
different
site
plans
and
approaches
to
urbanism
the
15
million.
Gets
you
the
preferred
option,
the
not
participating
those.
N
N
L
L
A
Q
I
It
sounds
like,
what's
being
created
as
a
revolving
loan
fund
at
the
county
and
I
want
to
talk
about
the
expectations
of
future
mechanisms
by
which
those
funds
could
be
accessed
and
utilized.
I
also
want
to
talk
about
I'd
like
to
hear
you
talk
about
what
happens
when
the
15
million
dollars
that
will
be
coming
from
an
increase
in
the
motor
vehicle
fees
is
repaid
to
the
state
and
what
the
county
will
do
with
that
increased
increment
after
the
15
million.
So.
Q
I
would
make
maybe
a
correction
to
that.
It's
not
a
new
fee
and
I
think
about
2002
the
county
imposed.
What
is
known
as
the
the
third
quarter.
Tax
a
portion
goes
to
UTA,
actually,
a
little
less
than
a
quarter
of
the
quarter
went
to
the
county
of
the
first-class
highway
fund.
That
fund
is
held
by
Utah
and
has
historically
always
been
administered
or
decided
upon
by
the
state
legislature.
Q
In
the
last
few
years,
those
funds
have
been
given
to
the
county
and
the
counties
then
redistributed
it
to
individual
cities
and
we've
it
most
recently
did
that
in
SB
277,
where
you
not
issued
forty
seven
million
dollar
bond
against
those
and
and
the
revenue
from
that
source,
which
is
the
sales
tax.
Existing
sales
tax
goes
to
pay
off
those
bonds.
Q
The
repayment
of
that
advancement
will
be
this
portion
of
the
sales
tax
each
year
until
the
full
amount
has
been
repaid,
and
so
right
now
we're
anticipating
two
projects.
I'll
find
out
here
in
a
minute
whether
or
not
they
get
approved,
because
our
council
is
having
a
similar
deliberation.
But
in
addition
to
this
particular
project,
we're
proposing
to
use
it
to
fund
a
project
that
we
have
in
Cottonwood
Heights
a
similar
nature,
we're
building
a
park
at
making
available
a
parking
structure.
Q
Some
funds
to
a
private
developer
through
the
Redevelopment
Agency,
to
enable
public
parking
in
this
case
at
the
mouth
of
Big,
Cottonwood
Canyon
and
then
in
turn,
the
tax
increment
from
that
project
area
will
repay
the
funds.
Our
goal
long-term
is
to
take
the
repayment
of
those
funds
and
create
a
revolving
loan
fund
and
then
make
them
available
and
the
most
likely
borrowers
is,
although
it
could
certainly
be
any
governmental
entity
we
went
foresee.
Q
Making
a
direct
loan
to
a
private
developer
is
most
likely
a
Redevelopment
Agency,
because
and
but
if
a
city
wanted
to
do
it
and
they
wanted
to
use
their
own
general
tax
funds
for
repayment,
we
certainly
wouldn't
be
opposed
to
it.
But
you
know
I
understand
that
you
know
we're
all
looking
toward
post-performance
when
possible,
that
tax
increment
is
probably
the
most
logical
mech
mechanism
for
repayment.
Thanks.
I
Q
In
this
case,
the
repayment
is
just
two
from
one
state
fund
to
another
state
fund,
but
they
did
take
into
account
about
a
fifteen
year
average
of
general
sales
tax,
which
was
just
a
little
over
three
percent.
Those
are
factored
in
to
those
numbers
and
historically
the
the
finance
folks
and
you
Dodd
have
been
to
be
honest,
a
little
bit
conservative,
and
so
we
they
that's,
usually
not
been
the
problem.
I
imagine
if
there
was
a
shortage
or
some
serious
drop-off
in
sales
revenues.
Q
I
I
There
may
be
negotiate
a
bit
with
that
applicant
on
what
those
benefits
need
to
be
in
terms
of
fulfilling
our
goals
as
a
RDA
in
an
area,
and
this
one
takes
that
conversation
a
bit
off
the
table
for
us
by
placing
it
with
the
county
and
an
additionally
since
I've
been
on
the
council.
We've
had
a
parking
utilization
study
completed
that
included
our
downtown
area
that
showed
we
are
over
parked
as
a
city
given
a
$450
million
I'm.
I
Sorry,
four
hundred
fifty
million
dollar
investment
in
a
downtown
area
we'll
certainly
demand
more
parking
than
that
block.
Currently
parks
I
understand
that,
but
the
the
idea
that
our
tax
increment
conversation
be
turned
toward
an
increase.
A
significant
increase
in
what
is
for
that
15
million
strictly
for
parking
is,
you
know,
puts
us
I
think
in
a
very
unique
position,
so
being
a
former
councilmember.
Can
you
help
me
understand
from
now
your
role
in
this
other
seat?
I
Q
That
I
mean
I
can
think
of
two
things
and
I
thought
about
this.
A
little
bit,
first
of
all,
I
should
clarify
that
while
the
developer
approached
the
county-
and
we
indicated
we
were
willingness,
we
would
follow
the
city's
pursuit
and
it's
one
of
the
reasons
why
the
loan
agreement
would
be
between
us
and
the
city,
and
so,
if,
for
some
reason
years
of
the
policy
board
make
a
decision
not
to
go
forward.
You
know
we
when
we
won't
be
doing
a
side
deal
or
anything
like
that,
and
we
want
to
go
forward.
Q
We'll
follow
your
direction
and
decision.
As
far
as
the
location
I've
thought
about
this
a
little
bit
and
as
I
think
back
a
little
bit,
there's
been
some
key
nodes
within
the
city
and
some
of
which
have
been
driven
by
the
Redevelopment
Agency
one
actually
before
my
time
and
that's
a
galvan
Plaza
Galvan
when
they
put
that
parking
structure
there
and
they
developed
the
stuff
around
it
serviced
more
than
one
area.
In
addition
to
the
Gallivan
Plaza
and
became
a
key
focal
point.
Q
City
Creek
did
it
obviously
with
their
own
private
dollars
and
and
I
see
this
as
a
similar
kind
of
site.
There
user
a
large
users
going
to
be
kitty-corner
at
the
arena,
but
there
are
other
particular
uses
around
that
as
the
and
one
of
my
responsibilities
is,
is
for
the
salt
palace,
Convention,
Center
and-
and
we
facilitate
some
of
the
development
happening
around
there,
that
are
looking
for
parking
and
and
and
are
making
available
to
their
parking
in
one
hotels
case
diminished.
Q
What
their
obligations
were
to
build
additional
structure
since
they
could
demonstrate
a
lease
agreement
and
I
I
do
think
that
there
is
a
value
in
having
centralized
parking
places,
because
then
people
know
you
can
go
you,
for
example,
you
you
know
you
can
always
find
some
place
at
Galvin
or
you
go
to
City
Creek
and
I
often
walk
a
block
or
so
off.
City
Creek
I
just
know
that
it's
going
to
be
available
there
and
I
and
there's
not.
Q
There
is
gateway
on
the
on
the
other
side
of
the
arena
and
stuff,
and
it
certainly
has
its
availability
there.
But
there's
this
whole
area
has
sort
of
had
this
sort
of
void.
They've
been
filled
in
part
by
surface
parking
lots,
but
those
surface
parking
lots
are
getting
replaced
at
a
remarkably
in
a
good
way
at
a
remarkably
fast
pace
and
so
I.
Think
in
as
you
look
at
long
term
at
a
public
parking
structure
or
parking
available
to
the
parking
that
long
term,
there
I
think
you'll
either.
I
I
P
B
What
I'd
like
to
actually
kind
of
maybe
turn
this
back
to
just
a
little
bit,
is
sort
of
that
bigger
broader
picture
that
that
more
long-term
idea
that
you
were
mentioning
Carlton
and
then
thank
you
again
for
that
breakdown
in
the
beginning,
because
it
really
did
kind
of
put
some
pieces
of
the
puzzle
together
for
me.
But
if
this
evolves
into
what
the
county
is
for
is
envisioning
it
evolving
evolving
into
as
a
sort
of
revolving
loan
fund.
One
of
the
questions
and
I
would
say,
maybe
concerned,
but
mostly
just
a
question.
B
If
a
city
participates
in
this,
like
Salt,
Lake
City,
for
example,
what
sort
of
criteria
does
the
county
have
or
will
the
county
have
in
that
revolving
loan
fund,
such
that?
If,
if
Salt,
Lake
City
is
kind
of
repaying
back
that
revolving
loan
fund?
How
do
we
make
sure
that
we're
getting
some
of
that
back
right
now?
My
understanding
is
that
it's
a
regionally
significant
transportation
project
which
could
include
public
transportation
as
well
correct.
B
Q
But
as
we
look
at
the
the
demands
that
are
being
placed
on
the
canyons
and
the
in
the
overflow
of
parking,
that's
happening
in
the
lack
of
and
the
difficulty
in
transportation
up
and
down
the
canyons
during
peak
season
and
increasingly
as
much
in
the
summertime
as
in
the
wintertime
that
a
solution
needed
to
be
found,
and
so,
as
we've
looked
at,
that
particular
investment,
we've
looked
as
it.
First
of
all,
we've
not
tried
to
incentive
eyes.
Q
Retail
retail
is
retail
and
we're
not
opposed
to
it,
but
that's
not
place
where
we
view
historically
put
our
recent
increment.
But
you
know:
is
it
creating
employment
opportunities?
Is
it
in
create
solving
multiple
cases?
In
the
case
of
the
canyons?
There's
a
transit
stop
near
the
parking
structure
that
facilitates
the
transfer
of
somebody
come
in
there
to
going
up
the
canyon.
Q
Will
it
you
know,
will
it
alleviate
some
of
the
commands
placed
upon
the
surrounding
areas
so
and
as
we
work
with
local,
there
are
a
number
of
communities
that,
frankly
are
working
on
town
centers,
often
near
transit,
stops
on
their
place
and
they're
running
into
the
same
dilemma.
The
big
parking
structure
of
Sandy,
for
example,
as
you
know,
experienced
this
in
their
Karan's
area,
and
we
recently
did
a
advanced
them.
Some
transportation
funds
to
build
a
structure
there.
So
the
dialogue
is
beginning,
I'd,
say
we're
in
the
early
stages
of
it.
B
And
I
guess
to
kind
of
clarify
my
question
just
a
little
bit
is
that
if
we
enter
into
this-
and
you
know
5
10
years
15
years,
whatever
long
it
takes
to
pay
back,
that
15
million
consult
lake
city
then
say
great.
We
have
this
other
15
million
that
we
can
can
reach
in
to
the
counties.
You
know
to
ask
the
county
for
for
a
different
transit
project
or
a
developer.
Q
B
Q
I,
don't
think
it
would
certainly
preclude
you
from
any
future
availability
of
funds
with
a
you
know,
project
and
I
would
imagine
by
then
we'll
have
developed
a
more
structured
criteria,
an
application
process
we
certainly
are
be-
are
doing
that
now
and
our
other
transportation
funds-
and
this
came
up
as
a
I
guess.
I
would
say
a
pleasant
surprise
at
the
end
of
the
session.
It's
not
something
we
went
searching
for.
We
had
created
sort
of
the.
I
I
didn't
preface
my
previous
questions
with
what
I
should
have,
which
is
that
I
really
want
to
talk
about
this
15
million
in
a
revolving
loan
fund
with
the
county
and
I.
Don't
want
people
to
construe
that
these
questions
are
necessarily
reflective
of
this
project
that
this
applicant
and
that
project
are
not
really
on
the
table
for
us
today.
I
know
that
this
is
absolutely
about
their
ability
to
do
the
project.
The
way
that
they'd
ideally
like
to,
but
this
relationship
of
the
Salt
Lake
City
RDA.
I
Basically,
funding
of
the
creation
or
the
replenishment
of
a
15
million
dollar
revolving
loan
fund
that
we
will
not
have
authority
over
that's
a
larger
revolving
loan
fund
than
we
currently
have
in
our
portfolio
as
an
RDA
unless
I'm
mistaken.
It's
a
significant
investment
for
us.
That
is
it's
a
little
uncomfortable
for
us.
I.
Think
for
me,
as
a
board
member
to
say,
we're
going
to
fund
this
to
create
more
parking,
let
alone,
but
also
that
we're
not
going
to
have
any
authority
over
it.
We
can
apply
like
everyone
else,
but
it's
it's.
Q
I
Can
we
shift
and
I'm
not
sure
this
is
directed
at
you
actually
Carlton,
but
to
talk
about
the
aspect?
I'm,
sorry,
the
expected
effects
and
the
potential
mitigation
efforts
if
there
are
any
on
Japantown
from
this
proposed
development,
and
if
this
is
the
time
that
maybe
mr.
chair
wants
to
call
the
representative
from
the
Ritchie
group
up
I'm,
just
wondering
about
where
those
conversations
are
at.
Let's.
H
I'll,
just
pipe
in
and
I,
don't
know
if
it's
more
applicable
to
have
a
conversation
here
or
later
in
the
council
meeting.
The
council
meeting
is
where
you
guys
will
be
considering
the
rezoning
request
from
the
Ritchie
group.
So
you
get
out
the
conversation
in
both
areas
frankly,
because
I
think
they're
interrelated,
but
anyway
just
wanted
to
flag
that.
Why.
A
B
For
me,
I
want
to
make
clear
of
the
distinction
of
what
we're
talking
about
right
now
and
it's
separate
from
whether
or
not
this
particular
project,
the
the
the
basis
of
this
particular
project
versus
this
15
million
and
what
will
happen
with
it
and
those
seem
to
be
very
connected.
But
in
factory
at
this
moment,
there's
sort
of
two
distinct
different
things.
B
This
15
million
is
asking
us
of
whether
or
not
from
what
I,
remember
and
understand
from
the
staff
report
is,
would
allow
the
RDA
to
go
forward
and
kind
of
investigate
this
project
and
look
into
creating
a
new
CDA
and
do
the
public
benefit
analysis
and
come
back
with
a
lot
more
information
regarding
the
project
itself.
Is
that
accurate?
Yes,.
K
Kind
of-
and
we
can
clarify
that
because
I
think
as
allison
stated
and
in
her
memo,
there's
a
lot
of
parts
to
this,
and
I
think
it's
helpful
clarify
exactly
what
we're
doing
tonight
versus.
What's
going
to
come
to
you
in
different
pieces
and
at
what
times
are
you
going
to
have
those
opportunities
to
make
those
decisions?
So
just
to
reiterate
again
this
evening?
B
K
The
numbers
start
looking
at
what
that
impact
is
on
not
only
this
tax
increment
but
the
existing
CBD
project
area,
and
it's
also
not
committing
you
or
have
anything
to
do
with
what
ultimately
would
be
the
reimbursement
agreement
with
the
developer
for
the
specific
project
and
what
those
reimbursement
terms
would
be
subject
to
those
negotiations
and
then
the
second
part
is
essentially
approving
the
resolution,
which
allows
us
to
enter
into
the
internal
local
agreement
with
the
county
by
which
the
county
has
said.
They
have
this
15
million
dollars
available.
K
They
are
interested
in
potentially
putting
it
in
this
project
and
essentially
that
interlocal
agreement
with
the
county.
All
that
really
does
is
it-
has
the
county,
hold
those
funds
for
us
subject
to
us,
approving
the
project
area
and
doing
that
reimbursement
agreement
with
the
developer?
So
that's
really
just
the
county
saying
we're
gonna
give
you
time
to
set
up
the
project
area.
Negotiate.
If
you
don't,
we
get
our
money
back.
Actually,
we
don't
even
get
it
back,
they
don't
give
it
to
us.
So
yes,
so
those
are
the
two
items
before
you
tonight
now.
K
The
reason
this
gets
complicated
is
one
because
of
the
the
structure
and
the
nature
of
that
15
million
and
number
two,
because
this
whole
process
essentially
was
developer
initiated,
and
so
it's
a
little
bit
of
the
cart
before
the
horse.
But
what
we're
bringing
to
you
tonight
is
essentially
just
that
first
step
in
what
would
be
a
normal
process.
We
just
have
a
lot
more
detail,
the
project
and
the
specific
development
that
we
normally
wouldn't
have
it
this
time,
Charlie.
O
K
This
time,
yes,
we
support
these
proposals,
which
is
essentially
saying,
let's
start
looking
at
the
the
prospect
of
setting
up
a
project
area
and,
yes
County,
we
are
potentially
interested
in
receiving
that
15
million.
If
we
decide
to
set
up
the
project
area
and
move
forward
with
negotiating
with
the
developer.
Okay,.
I
I
There's
some
orientation
concerns
about
back
of
house
being
facing
the
very
rich
cultural
district
on
first
south,
so
I
wondered
about
if
you
could
maybe
enumerate
some
of
the
potential
effects
that
are
anticipated
and
whether
or
not
you
have
contemplated
mitigation
efforts
and
had
conversations
with
this
community.
We.
R
R
So
it's
a
if
you
think
about
here's,
how
I
usually
describe
this
Salt
Lake's
here
we
haven't
usually
large
blocks
nine
to
ten
acre
blocks,
the
very
large
blocks,
the
typical
form
of
development
in
Salt
Lake
City,
is
to
surround
the
perimeter
of
our
roads
with
what
I
call
programming
buildings
and
then,
if
you
notice
most
of
the
center
portion
of
our
blocks
is,
you
know,
is
where
you
put
support
where
you
put
typically
parking
parking
has
been
so
prohibitive.
We
just
build
in
the
middle
of
our
blocks
all
the
time.
R
What
we're
proposing
the
reason
this
has
become
an
issue
is
we're
proposing
to
put
that
garage
below
grade.
There
are
only
a
few
garages
that
have
been
built
below
grade
in
our
entire
city
mints
because
they
just
cost
prohibitive.
It's
very
difficult
to
do
that.
You
notice,
even
you
know,
major
major
milestone
buildings
like
one
one.
One
has
an
above
grade
garage,
the
new
building
that
they're
building
it
at
t8
on
Tower.
Eight
is
also
going
to
have
an
above
grade
garage
I,
know,
Boyer
and
Boyer
and
Kowboy
are
building
a
new
apartment
building.
R
R
We
we
have
purposely
tried
to
line
that
entire
road.
With
with
it.
We
want
to
end
up
with
that
whole
Road,
being
retail
storefronts,
we'll
have
over
eighty
thousand
square
feet
of
retail
on
the
ground
floor
of
all
these
different
buildings
are
being
built,
and
it's
our
vision
to
have
that,
be
you
know,
retail
storefronts.
I
Our
this
board
is
quite
familiar
with
the
The
Regent
Street
mid-block
and
our
we
purchased
the
building
there
and
took
it
down
to
create
the
T
at
the
mid
block
on
Regent
and
part
of
that
desire
to
capture
the
flow
coming
out
of
City
Creek
and
lead
people
into
the
Gallivan
center
area.
It
was
also
that,
on
the
outside
of
the
block,
we
have
a
intentionally
activated
streetscape.
As
you
know,
the
excellence
theater,
those
doors
can
swing
open.
We've
got
stairs
that
flow
out.
I
We
have
a
very
activated
front
space
and
I
think
the
concerns
I'm
hearing,
and
certainly
the
presentation
I
saw-
was
not
yet
as
granular
as
I'm
sure.
Future
designs
will
be,
but
didn't
give
the
feeling
on
first
South
that
we
would
have
an
activated
streetscape
there.
So
I
absolutely
understand
doing
a
mid
block.
We
do
have
significant
block
size
getting
that
pedestrian
flow
permeating
the
block.
Can
you
talk
to
me
about
the
activation
on
first
I.
R
Thought
we've
done,
I'll
tell
you
where
we
started
where
we
can,
where
have
come
from
initially
are.
All
of
our
focus
was
on
the
inside
of
the
building.
We
have
some
some.
You
know
prohibitions
to
doing
storefronts
on
the
north
on
the
first
South
Side
because
of
the
liquor
laws
of
the
state.
So
you
have
to
be
so
many
feet
away
from
community
centers
and
churches
qualifies
community
centers,
so
we
have
to
bring
the
doors
away
from
that,
so
the
activation
side
has
to
be
outside
the
300
foot
range
anyway.
R
So
that
was
one
of
the
factors
as
we're
looking
at,
because
you
know
we're
not
envisioning.
You
know
this
is
Salt
Lake's
last
opportunity
in
our
opinion,
to
develop
something
that
will
support
what
what
we
hope
happens
is
a
sports
and
entertainment
district
for
the
whole
for
the
state
being
this
close
to
the
to
the
arena.
Being
this
close
to
the
Convention
Center
we're
a
unique
sight,
it's
kind
of
sandwiched
between
both
of
those.
So
as
we
heard
the
objections
that
the
the
way
we
responded
to
that
is,
we
turned
we
turned
some
seating.
R
We
receded
on
our
first
floor
level,
we
brought
our
restaurant
space
inside
under
the
canopy.
We
turned
it
in
to
about
75
feet
to
the
east,
so
we
could
turn
the
corner
and
bring
spill
out
seating
out
to
that
corner
and
make
it
so
you
could
have
some
activation
around
that
corner
as
far
as
we
could,
when
you
start
getting
a
little
further
that
you
know
when
you
get
a
little
too
far
now
you're
into
our
East.
I
R
Right
when
you're
going
east,
we
forgot
to
Far
East
we're
into
our
Starck
or
we're
into
the
back
of
house
area,
which
is
gonna,
be
where
you
have
your
your
kitchen
area
and
that's
all
gonna
be
behind
a
facade.
You'll
see
glass,
all
the
way
for
several
hundred
feet,
but
but
the
but
the
the
activation
portion
came
by
trying
to
bring
the
storefront
inside
and
have
spill
out
seating
around
the
corner.
475
feet
around
the
corner.
R
That
was
one
element
we
did
another
we
did
is
we
took
our
loading
area
and
we
put
it,
we
recessed
it
20
feet
into
our
building,
so
we
pushed
it
inside
the
building.
So
as
we
bring
trucks
and
loading
activities
to
the
building,
we're
gonna
take
them
inside
the
building,
and
then
they
also
have
doors
will
have
doors
built
going.
We
have
as
a
door
called
a
right
tech
door
if
you're
familiar
right
tech
door
and
it's
a
it's.
R
You
can
I
mean
they're,
really
like
a
quick
close
and
so
when
the
truck
leaves
the
doors
down,
so
we're
trying
to
keep
those
activities
to
obscure
them,
blocked
and
doing
our
best
with
that
I
promise
Janey
that
we
would
work
on
the
time
of
day
and
have
our
truck
activities,
especially
on
the
weekend
when
they
have
most
of
their
festivals
and
church
activities
that
we
would
be
very,
very
amenable
to
trying
to
figure
out
early
times.
They
make
sure
they
don't.
R
R
Behind
the
door
inside
the
building,
so
the
truck
will
pull
in
we're
actually
used
compactors
for
the
trash
facilities,
and
so
that
also
reduced
in
down
the
number
of
cycle
times
as
we
come
through
the
building
so
that
there
be
inside
the
truck
will
pull
in
it'll,
it'll
change,
dueler
change
outs
and
pull
out
and
leave
and
then
leave
the
door
down.
What
you're
going
to
see
you
when
you're
from
the
street
they
actually
do
have
some
pictures
up
tonight.
R
H
That
the
direction
of
the
chair
by
cher
was
to
focus
on
the
inner,
local
and
the
direction
to
our
DEA
staff
to
begin
the
process
of
investigating
a
CDA,
but
I
think
these
kinds
of
questions
to
the
extent
that
they
can
be
sort
of
baked
into
the
process
early
if
their
areas
of
interest
to
the
council
is
key.
So
we
were
sort
of
debating.
L
O
So
I
appreciate
that
explanation,
Jennifer
and
I'd
and
I
don't
mean
any
disrespect
at
all
to
the
chair
and
vice-chair
of
be
careful.
I
know
I
know,
but
I
do
think
that
the
you
know
some
of
the
specifics
that
Aaron
was
talking
about,
are
important
to
talk
about
today,
because
I
do
think
that
you
know
as
fast
as
this
is
moving
forward,
and
you
know
as
big
as
this
under
local
is.
O
O
Personally
still,
you
know
think
that
there
needs
to
be.
You
know
quite
a
bit
in
terms
of
you
know
the
the
design
and
mitigation
questions
that
were
that
need
to
be
asked
before
I'm
comfortable
moving
forward
with
the
under
law.
Do
you
have
a
question,
so
the
question
would
be
and
I
know
this
is.
This
is
odd
because
I've
never
argued
against
a
mid
block
road
before,
but
I
think
that
the
comparisons
to
Regent,
Street
and
I
didn't
and
Aaron
raised
some
of
these
issues.
O
But
we
have
I'm
somewhat
concerned
about
developing
a
new
mid
block
that
we
activate,
while
killing
the
Street
evasion
on
on
some
of
our
other
established
streets.
That
I
think
this.
This
could
do
and
I
understand
the
difficulty
with
the
state,
liquor
law
and
the
300
foot
issue,
but
is
there
a
way
that
you
can
that
that
you
could
move
some
of
those
internal
issues?
I
know
that
you
have
the
loading
inside
the
building.
R
I
wish
I
could
show
this
very
well,
but
I'm
just
gonna
point
to
this.
This
highlights
what
I
was
showing
you
before,
how
we've
received
the
parking
and
trying
to
turn
that
corner?
Our
objective
is
to
meet
this
true
V
building
across
the
street,
we're
hoping
that
becomes.
We've
heard
several
possibilities,
what
that
could
become
someday.
So
if
that
was
a
restaurant,
if
that
was
a
community
center,
if
that
was
some,
we
wanted
to
interact
across
the
street
with
that
as
well.
R
I
believe
our
facade
is
is
a
very
attractive
building
and
if
you
look
at
the
location,
I
apologize
for
the
scale
of
this
I
wasn't
prepared
for
this
question,
but
that's
like
I'm
that
location
there
right
here.
Excuse
me
is
how
far
we've
brought
we
brought
that
loading
activity.
This
is
our
drive
lane
in
and
so
that
this
is.
R
Your
question
is:
can
I
kind
of
relocate
that
and
relocating
that
will
be
on
a
26
foot
wide
street
being
a
very
small
street,
we're
bringing
this
into
a
pedestrian
scale
scale
Street
we'd
have
to
increase
the
size
of
the
street.
We
probably
lose-lose
program
we'd,
probably
have
to
redesign
our
buildings
at
this
point
there
be
there
be
several
impacts
to
that.
To
be
honest,
can't
be
done
anything
to
be
done.
The
point
is,
is
that
can
you
know?
R
Is
it
really
what's
right
for
the
project
long-term
when,
when
what
we're
looking
at
is
loading
and
unloading
activities
that
happen
on
long
every
street
in
Salt,
Lake
City
all
day
every
day,
every
building
you
see
has
a
function
and
activity
off
of
you
know:
Main
Street,
first
South,
second
South.
Third
South,
you
know
West
temple
I
mean
every
building
has
to
figure
out
how
they're
going
to
load
and
unload
a
building
and
take
care
of
the
rubbish.
O
Now
and
I
and
I
appreciate
that
and
I
appreciate
your
I
know
that
that
you
know
it
was,
it
was
an
unexpected
question.
So
thank
you
for
for
trying
to
answer
it.
One
thing
that
you
did
say
that
I
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
with,
is
that
when
you
were
talking
about
you
know
the
hope,
for
you
know
something
in
the
future
and
that
across
the
street
and
that
you
want
to
orient
towards
towards
something
that
that
may
come.
O
You
also
have
established
areas
that
you
can
also
be
focusing
on
instead
of
just
hope.
You
know
instead
of
a
hope,
for
you
know
something
in
the
future.
You
know
I
really
would
have
liked.
Have
you
know
heard
that
there
had
been
more
collaboration
with
with
some
of
those
existing
uses
that
are
that
have
their
long-term
community
oriented
uses.
O
Specifically,
you
know
with
the
with
the
church
there,
so
I
get
the
aspirational
piece
that
you
know.
You
hope
that
there's
gonna
be
something
in
the
future,
but
I
think
you
know
there.
My
concern
is
that
there
that
Udyr,
ignoring
some
of
the
existing
uses,
that
you
could
be
orienting
to
as
well
and
and
working
too
adapt
with
to.
O
R
We've
actually
had
this
conversation
many
times
with,
with
most
of
my
conversations
been
with
mr.
Emoto,
and,
and
you
know,
it
was
our
intention
to
try
to
interact
with
across
the
street,
based
on
a
request.
The
Struve
ii
building
was
what
you
know.
It's
been
highlight
to
me
as
a
potential
community
building,
I,
guess
I'm,
not
certain.
What
else
could
be
done
with
you
know.
If
you
look
at
first
South
right
now,
first
South
has
his
head:
I
would
agree
with
them.
It's
been
largely
ignored
for
a
long
time.
R
I
think
it's
clear
that
we
didn't
start
that
process
back
in
the
60s
and
we're
trying
to
bring
enhanced
value
to
that
area.
Now,
I,
truly
believe
that,
with
our
presence,
when
we
build
this
project
and
we've
extended
the
hand
of
this
as
well
as
it
we'd
love
to
extend
their
festival
and
bring
it
into
the
project
and
make
it
part
of
the
project,
we'd
love
to
be
a
part
of
that
community.
R
R
I've
got
to
load
and
unload
somewhere
and
I've
got
to
bring
in,
and
it's
a
lot
easier
for
me
to
get
a
30-foot
trash
truck
along
for
South,
a
city
street
where
I
have
a
public
access
right
as
well
and
and
to
access
and
bring
my
truck
off
a
first
shot
than
it
is
to
bring
it
through.
A
26-foot
Road
intend
to
be,
but
I'm
also
concerned
about
safety
from
pedestrian
scale.
Perspective
I
think
that's
a
key
factor
as
you
build
these
roads,
as
you
can
start
bringing
those
big
loading
trucks
through
there.
R
O
Okay,
I'm,
just
a
for
my
fellow
board
members
that
explanation
helps
I,
do
want
to
thank
Aaron
for
for
raising
some
of
these
issues
and
I
think
the
questions
that
we're
gonna
really
have
to
ask
ourselves
based
on
on
some
of
the
things
that
Aaron
Aaron
raised
and
that
I've
been
concerned
with,
is
you
know,
we're
hearing
a
lot
about
what's
best
for
the
project,
you
know
what
what
is
in.
You
know
the
the
the
best
interest
of
the
project
moving
forward.
I
think
you
know
I
still
think
there's
needs
there's
some
work.
O
That
needs
to
be
done
to
figure
out
how
to
incorporate
what's
best
for
the
project
into
also
being
what's
best
for
the
community
and
I.
Do
think
that
you
know
the
merits
to
this
project
are
great,
I
and
I.
Think
we're
close
I
would
just
encourage
the
applicant
to
continue
working
with
the
church
and
that
community
to
figure
out.
If
there
are
some
things
that
can
be
that
that
still
can
be
done.
You
know
in
no
way
I
would
you
know
I'd
and
I
do
get
that
anything
can
happen.
O
One
of
the
difficulties
and
challenges
with
an
infill
project
like
this
is
that
you
do
have
you
know
surrounding
communities
that
you
that
you
do
have
to
adapt
with
it's.
You
know
it's
not
just
a
blank
slate
that
you
know
we
have.
The
developers
have
in
other
places,
and
so
I
I
would
just
encourage
you
to
continue
to
work.
R
Chairman
can
I
make
one
more
point.
Thank
you,
sir
I'm.
Not
really
formal,
I
apologize,
I,
don't
know
how
all
this
works,
but
I
think
miss
Aaron.
You
asked
a
question
about
the
about
the
percentage
of
parking
that's
available
for
public
parking
and,
and
we
anticipate
at
least
800
of
our
1861
stalls
at
a
minimum
up
to
as
many
as
a
thousand
that
percentage
has
between
43
to
53
percent
of
the
available
parking
will
be
made
available
for
public
benefit
phase,
one
does
have
38
stalls
but,
as
I
believe,
I
think
Gordon
described.
R
R
N
I
think
this
will
be
a
discussion
going
forward,
but
I'd
be
interested
in
hearing
the
with
a
desire,
the
churches
and
those
historic
institutions,
those
buildings
there
are
and
how
they
want
to
interact
with
the
development.
One
of
the
things
I
appreciate
about
City,
Creek
development
itself,
dinner,
ground
parking,
of
course
and
I
agree.
N
There's
also
the
sight
lines
and
trying
to
take
the
older
buildings
around
that
block
and
open
up
sight
lines
through
the
block
towards
them.
I've
been
treated
to
hear
what
the
churches
feel
about
that,
because
there's
one
across
the
street
on
first,
as
well
as
the
one
adjacent
to
you,
the
second
piece
that
that's
design
question
for
you
all
and
as
we
go
forward.
The
second
piece
is
the
interaction
with
the
high-rise
senior
housing
next
door,
which
needs
to
be
cut
off
at
this
point
and
I,
don't
know
what
their
desires
are.
N
Your
constraints,
obviously
in
a
mid
block
development,
but
it
appears
it's
cut
off
from
sort
of
your
mid
block
sort
of
movement
and
I'm
wondering
if
those
residents
or
that
structure
could
be
integrated
in
some
different
way.
I'm,
rather
than
sort
of
cordoned
off
I
have
to
go
around
the
block
to
get
in.
You
bet
right
now.
R
That's
a
good,
that's
a
great
point
right
now:
there's
an
elevation
change.
This
green
area
right
here
is
a
linear
park
and
and
I
don't
have
the
civil.
My
confirm
but
I
know
there's
a
great
change
there.
That
requires
a
retaining
wall
along
it
and
then
it'll
it'll
recede
and
then
even
out
as
you
get
to
this
level
here.
But
that
is
something
we'd
be
we
could
look
at
because
that's
a
good
idea
is
to
try
to
incorporate
that
into
it.
Yeah.
N
I
bring
that
up,
because
you've
got
a
very
old
historic
structure,
a
house
on
or
around
the
edge
there,
the
historic
temple
there
and
then
across
the
street.
The
old
Christian
Church,
which
are
all
old
structures
a
little
relatively
and
it'd,
be
shame
to
sort
of
coordinate
off
in
courtyards
kind
of
thing
away
from
the
rest
of
your
development.
I,
don't
know
this!
How
you
do
that
so
I
don't
claim
to
know
how
to
figure
that
out,
but
for
me,
that'd,
be
an
important
purse.
Part
of
making
this
work
in
a
community
yeah.
R
I
Thank
you
and
I
wanted
a
second
Charley's
comments
on
this
I.
Think
I
really
appreciate
this
discussion
that
we
were
able
to
have
I
know
that
it's
just
the
very
beginning
of
what
will
be
many
discussions
to
come
and
I
hope
that
you
will
take
to
heart
our
desire
that
both
at
the
Japanese
community
and
all
of
the
communities
that
are
on
first
South,
that
would
be
impacted
by
a
development
like
this
that
you
all
sharpen
your
pencils
together.
I
More
and
I
I
want
to
say
that
I
I
expect
that
the
next
time,
not
in
today's
and
this
afternoon's
meeting,
but
the
next
time
we
come
back
together
to
talk
that
this
board
is
able
to
hear
some
concise
requests
and
considerations.
Whether
or
not
they're
solidified
I,
understand
that
takes
time,
but
I'd
like
to
hear
that
there's
more
exploration
happening
to
support
and
compliment.
I
Certainly
this
is
you
have
to
take
care
of
your
trash.
You
need
to
have
a
driveway.
You
have
the
right
to
do
so.
I
understand
that
and
I
think
that
there's
more
collaboration
that
could
happen
to
complement
support.
Frankly,
I'd
rather
have
dinner
on
a
patio
on
that
inward
corner,
then
out
on
the
west
facing
side
on
the
busy
street
I.
Think
that
there's
not
that
you're
going
to
change
your
development,
but
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
complimentary
activity
that
could
happen
that
would
be
attractive
to
people.
I
A
Welcome
I'd
like
to
jump
in
there's
a
lot
that
has
been
floating
around
here
and
what
we've
got
Carleton
here,
I'd
like
to
bring
up
a
conversation
that
I
had
with
Aaron
litt
back
a
couple
months
ago
about
this,
and
she
mentioned
to
me
something
about
the
county.
Looking
at
creation
of
a
community
center
with
one
of
those
historic
buildings
on
the
corner
of
1st
and
3rd
West.
Can
you
talk
to
me
about
I.
Q
A
Enough
that
being
said,
I
want
to
shift
to
Ryan
really
quick
and
appreciate.
You
know.
At
least
you
know
the
the
current
efforts
that
you've
made
so
far
to
mitigate
some
of
the
issues
that
we'll
present
first
south
in
Japan,
town
and
I,
think
it's
just
important
to
be
clear:
that
there's
a
difference
between
mitigation
and
enhancing
a
community
and
so
I.
Would
echo
Charlie's
request
to
continue
your
dialogue
with
the
Japanese
community
and
maybe
there's
an
opportunity
for
enhancement
of
Japan
town
beyond
just
the
mitigating
factors
that
you've
already
incorporated?
A
I,
don't
know
what
that
looks
like,
but
always
worth
the
continuing
dialogue
and
I
would
request
that
you
continue
to
do
that.
My
second,
my
question
for
you.
My
second
question
is
on
the
phasing
of
this
project.
There
has
been
no
date
identified
for
phase
two,
which
is
the
lion's
share
of
the
project
itself
and
I
know
that
that's
just
kind
of
how
development
rolls,
but
what
you
know
the
city
is
looking
at
spending.
A
You
know
a
little
bit
more
about
what
you're,
anticipating,
where
your
financing
is,
that
what
things
need
to
be
met
in
order
for
you
to
move
forward
on
Phase,
two
and
I
would
ask
the
RTA
staff.
If
there's
anything,
you
think
we
should
do
as
a
board
in
approving
this
to
high
development
metric
so
to
the
funding.
So
I
guess.
Let
me
just
ask
Ryan
quickly
phasing
and
then
Danny.
If
you.
L
R
Gonna
be
built
in
one
one
phase,
because
we
share
a
garage
two
level
garage.
One
of
the
biggest
factor
on
the
phasing
plan
is
that
everyone
I'm
sure
you
recall
this
building
here
that
sits
currently
is
the
Royal
wood
office
building
and
in
the
ground
floor
of
that
building
is
the
downtown
post
office.
Everyone
is
very
familiar
with
that.
They
need
time
when
we
give
them
notice
to
find
time
to
find
a
new
location
or
relocate.
R
You'll
cut
construction
costs
are
going
crazy,
but
that's
you
know,
that's
our
job
to
figure
out
how
to
get
those
costs
in
line
phase
two
would
start
on
our
timeline
right
now.
It
would
start
we
would
notice.
We
expect
to
notice
that
the
post
office
someone
within
the
first
year
when
we're
under
construction,
which
would
give
us
a
chance
to
be
about
six
months
to
a
year
after
completion
phase,
one
will
be
twenty
six
months
and
we
would
expect
to
start
phase
two
within
three
years
after
we
start
phase
one.
R
If
that
makes
sense,
okay
and
then
phase
2
will
be
multi-phase.
You
see
Block
C
here
the
garage
we
built
one,
because
it's
a
below
grade
garage,
then
Block
C,
would
on
line
first
and
then
block
D
would
be
blocked
these
the
most
complicated.
It
has
the
three
towers
on
top
of
it,
and
so
it
has
a
little
more
time
line.
So
that's
why
we
put
together.
You
know
we
believe
it's
a
six
to
eight
year
project
with
all
the
different
phasing
that
happens.
What
they're
so
thank.
A
K
As
far
as
the
phasing
goes
and
and
the
project
in
general.
If
we
get
to
the
point
where
we're
negotiating
a
reimbursement
agreement
with
the
developer,
those
are
performance
based,
and
so
they
are
factored
into
one.
When
the
project
is
done
and
to
what
extent
it
generates
increment.
And
so
the
life
of
the
project
area
becomes
a
consideration
for
the
amount
of
increment
that
they
ultimately
receive,
as
well
as
when
the
timing
of
the
project
coming
online
and
the
value
of
the
project
and
the
development
in
general.
K
So,
to
a
certain
extent,
they
are
motivated
to
build
faster
and
at
a
higher
value
so
that
they
can
receive
the
increment
beyond
that,
you
obviously
are
within
your
purview
as
an
RDA
board
to
direct
staff.
If
you
wanted
to
include
in
that
reimbursement
or
the
terms
additional
milestones
that
they
would
need
to
hit,
whether
that
be
timing
or
phasing
or
values
or
the
type
of
project
Jennifer
Bruno,
it's.
H
You
know
two
two
and
a
half
of
the
project,
so
I
think
it's
in
everyone's
interest
for
the
project
to
perform,
but
I
just
wanted
to
understand
that
nuance
of
the
agreement
with
the
county
would
mean
that
you're
paying
the
inner,
local
or
you're
paying
the
increment
to
the
county
first
and
then
any
additional
goes
to
the
developer.
Is
that
right,
yeah.
K
And
I
think
I
think
that's
an
important
clarification
to
make
that
yes,
the
county's
15
million,
would
be
an
upfront
infusion
of
cash
in
of
the
project,
which
would
then
be
reimbursed
as
increments
available.
It
would
have
the
top
priority
of
increment
and
then
to
the
extent
that
the
developer
potentially
is
also
seeking
an
RDA
loan.
That
would
also
be
an
upfront
infusion
of
cash
into
the
project,
subject
to
normal
loan
repayment
terms.
So
and.
Q
A
O
O
I'm
really
struggling
with
this
because
I
I
love
the
idea
and
I've
been
wanting
that
this
block
to
be
developed
for
a
while
at
the
same
time,
I.
You
know
I'm
also
very
sympathetic
to
the
community
in
the
history
that
that
is
there
and
the
way
that
much
of
the
development
up
to
this
point
has
not
taken
that
community
into
account
and
has
has
really
been
detrimental,
I
I'm
very
concerned
about
you
know
doing
anything
else
that
is
going
to
further
that
treatment
of
of
the
community.
O
It
really
bothers
me,
it
has
bothered
me
a
long
time.
I
think
this
goes
I
mean.
Obviously
this
is
back
before
any
of
us.
It
was
back
before
you
know.
Carlton
was
of
the
county.
It
was
back
before
Carlton
was
on
the
council,
so
you
know
there's
there
is
a
long
history
of
of
the
impact
to
the
community.
The
question
I
guess
for
the
county.
O
If,
if
we
were
to
adopt
just
you
know,
the
resolution
of
you
know
preparing
the
draft
of
the
community,
the
CRA,
as
well
as
the
public
benefits
analysis,
but
we
held
off
on
the
resolution
for
the
interlocal.
What
would
that
do
to
the
project?
What
would
that
do
to
your
financing?
So
I
guess
it's
a
question
to
the
RTA
county
and
the
developer.
Yeah.
Q
I
was
gonna,
say,
I
think
what
I
would
do
to
the
project
is
I'll.
Let
the
developer
answer
that
particular
question.
You
know
I
guess
it
would
depends
on
what
your
time
frame
is
and
what
the
delay
time
frame
it.
You
know
if
you're
talking
a
month
or
or
you
know,
six
weeks
or
something
we
could
certainly
be
patient
with.
You
I
think
we'll
start
having
communities
interested.
Q
You
know
if,
for
some
reason
the
city
is
not,
but
we
know
that
at
least
our
understanding
is
that
the
developers
at
a
design
point
where
they've
got
to
make
some
decisions
and,
and
frankly
the
15
million
is
at
least
and
a
initial
commitment
that
you
know
that
there
is
interest
in
in
their
more
enhanced
project.
Okay,.
R
Okay,
from
our
perspective,
we're
we
haven't
had
a
chance
to
I,
mean
I,
think
you've
seen
the
what
we
call
the
but
for
site
plan
as
well.
That
can
work
for
us
and
and
that's
something
that
we
could.
We
can
keep
those
under.
You
know
we
have
to
go
through
a
design
review
process.
We
do
a
design
site
plan
review
when
we
go
get
all
these
enhancements
or
a
building
we're
trying
to
build
beautiful
buildings.
We're
trying.
A
R
Put
something
was
gonna,
be
a
Legacy
Project,
it's
gonna
change
what
we
we
it
might
be
hubris
in
us,
but
we
think
this
is
one
of
the
you
know.
Top
two
or
three
projects
of
Salt
Lake
scene
has
the
potential
to
be
that
and
you're
gonna
do
with
private
financing
this
time,
private,
private
folks.
But
we
are
at
a
point
we
have
to
make
a
decision.
There
are
financing
reasons:
hotels
as
you're,
watching
you're,
watching
interest
rates,
increase,
they're
becoming
more
more
difficult
to
finance
and
we
have
a
we
have
a
lender.
R
That's
that's
done
what
my
partner's
actually
here
with
us
here
and
he
they've
they've,
probably
I'm
gonna.
Guess
he
they've
done
over
two
hundred
fifty
million
dollars
for
the
projects
with
that
with
that
lender
and
that
lenders
ready
to
go.
They
have
an
allocation
set
for
this
year.
The
pressure
which
was
alluded
to
before
is
we
don't
wanna
lose
that
allocation,
it's
very
difficult
and
so
we're
waiting
for.
We
really
looked
we're
looking
for
finality
and
a
chance
to
move
this
project.
R
Had
we've
taken
a
few
months
to
say
you
know
to
study
this
out
and
now
write
a
point.
We
have
to
move
forward,
we're
I,
wouldn't
say
we're
happy
to
move
forward
the
other
project,
but
we
will,
if
that's
going
to
make
me,
give
us
the
surest
sense
of
getting
something
done.
We've
been
involved
in
the
project
for
two
and
a
half
years
now,
almost
three
years,
and
we
need
to
move
the
project
forward.
R
Now
we're
excited
about
this
because
we
we
live
here,
we're
multi
generation
from
the
state
of
Utah,
and
we
we
want
to
see
the
capital
city
enhanced
and
grow
and
to
see
kind
of
its
future
come
to
come
to
life.
We
think
this
is
a
chance
that
won't
come
around
again.
We
developed
this
block
it'll
take
40
more
years
before
was
a
chance
to
do
what
we
want
to
do
now
and
that's
why
we
really
want
to
go
after
this
now.
So
timing,
wise.
If
we
wait
a
month
or
two
I,
think
we'll
move
ahead.
R
A
O
You
know
or
potentially
resolves
some
of
the
different
issues
just
to
see.
If
we
can
take
one
more
run
at
it,
I
don't
want
to
delay
it
longer
than
that,
but
I
do
think
that
it's
important
and
to
have
our
ta
staff
involved
as
well,
because
if
there
is
a
way
to
facilitate
this,
so
that
we're
not
impacting
that
community
is
negatively,
as
is
they
believe.
Q
Mean
I
I
probably
am
too
bold
to
make
a
suggestion,
but
you
still
hold
the
ultimate
trump
card
and
then
you
don't
have
the
participation
agreement
and
the
final
creation
of
the
project
area
and
so
I.
Just
wonder
if
you
know
if
you
were
to
consider
moving
forward
today,
yet
there's
a
lot
of
motivation,
I
think
on
all
the
parties
part
to
find
a
resolution,
because
we
know
that
ultimately,
you
have
some
other
longer
standing
decisions
to
make
the
conclusion
so.
A
O
I
Chair
cannot
I,
think
Charlie
and
I
seem
to
feel
the
same
way
about
the
desire
to
come
up
with
greater
solutions
for
the
communities
that
are
at
stake
here
and
I.
Do
think
that
this
is
an
hour.
Our
final
opportunity
to
impress
that
importance,
so
I
want
to
say
I
would
be
comfortable
with
us
moving
ahead
with
this
today
being
clear
that
the
condition
of
the
next
step
in
this
process
is
based
upon
coming
to
a
consensus
that
this
board
would
be
very
comfortable
supporting
with
the
community.
But
let's
discuss
okay.
O
All
right,
I
will
withdraw
my
question,
but
I
really
would
encourage
all
parties,
including
the
county,
to
have
some
real
discussion
before
this
moves
forward.
From
you
know,
and
and
the
representatives
from
Japan
town
who
are
here
I,
don't
fully
expect
you
to
be
happy
with
you
know
with
whatever
you
know.
The
outcome
is
I.
O
Think
that
at
this
point
it's
it's
you
know
that's
just
an
unfortunate
reality,
but
I
do
think
that
it
is
important
that
the
developer
that
the
county
and
the
city
work
better
with
your
community
than
we
have
in
the
past
and
so
I
will
reluctantly
support
moving
forward
with
both
items
today.
But
my
personal
condition
is
that
you
know
I'm
going
to
be
watching
closely
how
that
interaction
takes
place
with
with
the
japantown
community
and
if
it
doesn't
improve
or
if
or
if
things
don't
get
better
and
again
I.
O
You
know
I'm
not
expecting
you
know
everyone.
You
know
in
Japan
town
to
be
fully
comfortable
with
what
you
know
with
where
things
end
up,
but
the
process
needs
to
be
a
heck
of
a
lot
better
than
I
think
it
has
dug
to
this
point
and
so
I'm
going
to
be
looking
at
those
discussions
and
we'll
base
any
future
consideration
of
action
that
I
take
on
on
how
those
communications
progressed.
Thank.
L
Was
just
gonna
say:
I
think
that
the
Richie
group,
mr.
Richie,
understands
how
important
it
is
for
us
to
have
that
collaboration
moving
forward
so,
and
we
do
have
that
trump
card,
which
I
think
is
really
important
to
make
sure
that
you
know
those
who
are
coming
from
Japan
town
can
see
that
it
is
important
to
the
council
that
it
has
been
a
priority
and
you
know
not
to
put
a
John
Carlton,
but
that
was
21
years
ago
now,
right
Carlton,
so
that's
I
will
be
in
support
of
that.
B
First
want
to
thank
Charlie
for
asking
the
question
because
I
appreciated
it
and
I,
you
know
part
of
our
RDA
process
is
the
public
benefits
analysis
that
is
so
incredibly
important
to
us
as
a
board
and
how
we
look
at
then
and
going
back
to
Carlton's
trump
card
that
which
I
know,
but
can
we
have
a
different
term
for
them?
I'm,
sorry,
but
that
as
we
go,
you
know,
should
we
go
forward
with
any
sort
of
Ted?
This
doesn't
bind
us.
That's
the
other
important
part.
B
This
isn't
binding
us,
but
we
do
want
to
say
that
it
everybody
in
this
room
that
has
voiced
an
opinion
is
important
and
this
development
is
important,
but
how
it
relates
with
our
communities
surrounding.
It
is
important,
but
we
nothing
is
binding
here,
but
we
do
get
to
create
and
show
that
we
want
this
collaboration
to
move
forward
and
really
I
think
out
of
all
of
our
board.
B
What
I've
seen
is
that
a
lot
of
times
that
tax
increment
cond,
that
interlocal
kind
of
comes
down
to
that
public
benefit
analysis
and
how
much
that
is
really
supporting
the
communities
around
it.
So
I'm
telling
you
this
upfront,
because
the
that's
what
we're
at
least
I
do
really
look
towards
that
as
we're.
Looking
at
what
that
tax
increment
looks
like
as
we
as
we
move
forward
down
the
process
of
the
RDA
line,
so
just
as
more
incentive
to
sort
of
make
sure
that
we're
all
collaborating
on
that
side.
I
I
There's
some
items
in
the
policy
questions
that
I'd
like
to
incorporate
into
our
motion
here
and
I'll,
just
I'll
number
them
for
you
and
it's
number
policy,
question
1,
11
and
13,
and
and
to
my
peers,
if
there's
others
that
you'd
like
to
include
here
so
please
speak
up.
My
my
motion
would
be
that
we
I
think
I'll,
add
those
the
language
and
at
the
beginning.
Or
would
you
rather
me
great.
I
That
the
staff
work
with
the
applicant
to
explore
a
commitment
to
include
a
certain
number
of
affordable
units
in
the
project
and
perhaps
Jennifer
you
might
be
telling
me
now-
is
not
the
time
to
do
this.
But
I'm
going
to
make
this
motion
anyway.
In
addition
that
the
RDAs
staff
conduct
an
analysis
of
when
the
central
business
district
would
reach
the
minimum
tax
increment
target
with
and
without
removing
block
67
from
the
CBD.
I
N
I
A
Okay,
that
answer
your
question
board:
member
Johnston,
okay.
Well,
in
that
case,
I
would
like
before
we
act
on
this
motion.
I
think
it's
important
that
we
articulate
for
the
developer
for
the
county
and
for
our
DEA
staff,
what
we
are
expecting
in
their
collaboration
with
the
Japanese
community
and
what
we'll
be
looking
for.
Can
we
do
that
now
before.
I
K
I
think
we
can
respond
all
of
those
I
think
the
the
question
of
the
number
of
affordable
units
and
analysis
of
that
we'll
have
that
discussion
with
the
developer.
We've
had
those
conversations
briefly,
but
we
will
certainly
come
back
to
you
either
with
possibilities
within
this
development
and/or
what
the
opportunities
are
as
part
of
the
overall
project
area
creation.
Thank
you.
K
N
I
think
we
need
that
as
you
go
through
your
analysis,
going
forward,
at
least
from
my
end
of
things,
to
make
sure
that
we
are
if
the
policy
is
bad,
we
need
to
know
that
the
policies
sound.
Why
is
this
an
exception
that
we
can
rely
on
going
forward?
Another
because
there's
no
reason
I
can't
see
why
other
developers
wouldn't
want
this
as
well.
K
And
I
would
just
say
briefly
on
that
not
to
get
into
details.
It's
not
necessarily
an
exception
of
our
current
policy,
because
our
current
policy
is
geared
specifically
towards
single
property,
economic
development,
driven
project
areas.
We
don't
have
a
policy
on
and
I
think
to
your
point.
We
would
come
back
to
you
with
the
draft
of
a
policy
Ken
thanks.
A
A
Six
in
favor
and
board
member
of
Wharton,
not
here
absent,
so
does
that
help.
Okay,
alright,
now
I
think
it'd
be
helpful.
If
we
could
board
members
that
the
Japantown
question
has
come
up
a
number
of
times,
I'm
gonna
ask
Charlie
I'm
gonna:
ask
Aaron
and
I'm
gonna
ask
board
member
Fowler
to
jump
in
on
this
and
help
provide
a
little
bit
of
clarity
and
reiterate
exactly
what
we
will
be
looking
for
when
the
subject
comes
back
before
us.
What
kinds
of
things
are
you
hoping
to
accomplish
with
this
collaboration
with
the
Japanese
community
sure.
O
O
Just
because
you
have
just
your
institutional
knowledge
on
a
lot
of
this
would
be
would
be
helpful,
japantown
community,
you
know
whoever
you
know,
whoever
yell
designate
to
to
work,
and
then
you,
the
developer,
your
team
and
really
what
I'm,
what
I'm
looking
for
is
not
like
a
wholesale
redesign
of
the
of
the
block.
That's
not
realistic
and
I.
Don't
think
anyone
expects
that,
but
if
there
are
things
that
can
that
could
be
done.
That
could
enhance
the
area
you
know
directly
across
from
Japan
town.
O
That's
really
what
I'm
going
to
what
I'm
looking
for
just
some
you
know
some,
you
know
active
discussion,
some
creativity
to
see
if
there
are
some
options
that
can
be
looked
at,
that
will
not
completely
you
know,
tank
the
the
the
design
work.
That's
already
been
done.
That
said,
I
don't
want
to
have
that
as
an
excuse.
I,
don't
want
to
say,
well,
you
know
what
we've
already
done
so
much
and
you
know
anything
else
is
going
to
make
it
fall
apart.
That's
tight,
as
you
said,
anything
can
be
done.
O
O
Q
O
A
I
Because
I,
don't
whatever
I,
don't
want
to
say
what
you're
gonna
come
up
with
I
think
if
you
could
come
up
with
something
that
supports
respects,
complements,
recognizes
and
integrates
support
is
broad
to
I
mean
there's
a
financial
there's,
a
million
ways
to
support
something.
That's
my
request.
So
I
hope
when
you
come
back,
I
can
look
at
my
list
of
five
words
and
feel
like
you
found
a
way.
Is.
A
H
A
K
Just
real
quick,
if
I
may,
please
notice
of
funding
availability
is
on
the
street.
That's
the
ten
million
dollars
at
this
board
issued.
We
have
a
meeting
tomorrow
with
the
developers
for
informational
and
the
applications
are
due
by
the
31st.
We
are
deep
in
the
process
of
relocating
tenants
at
the
overnighter.
We
have
a
success
story
from
a
woman
and
her
son
who
were
doubled
up
in
one
of
the
rooms
there.
They
have
found
permanent
housing
and
they
have
reached
back
out
to
us
and
told
us
how
extremely
grateful
they
are
for
that.
So.
K
Or
two
tenants,
though,
that
are
a
little
problematic
to
find
them
permanent
housing.
But
that's
our
goal
is
to
wrap
it
up
by
the
end
of
July.
Ok,
no!
No
to
staff
members
start
JP
coats
who
comes
to
us
from
the
Planning
Department.
Where
he's
been
for
the
past
three
years,
I
think
he's
behind
me
and
then
we
have
can.
A
K
K
O
A
Any
additional
updates
from
anybody
on
staff
I
assume
not
nothing
from
me.
You
do.
You
have
anything
to
offer
Vice
Chair,
no
okay.
In
that
case,
we
are
done
with
our
meeting
today,
thanks
for
showing
up
and
engaging
with
us
until
next
time
and
board
member
Fowler
or
excuse
me
Mendenhall.
When
would
you
like
to
start
the
council
meeting.