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Planning Commission Meeting - November 28, 2018
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A
C
B
D
We
have
a
couple
of
things
we'll
take
care
of
some
updates
on
City
business
first,
but
just
to
let
you
know
we
and
remind
you.
We
only
have
one
meeting
Planning
Commission
meeting
in
December
and
so
there's
not
a
second
meeting.
Obviously
one
of
the
things
that
that
means
is
that
our
meetings
in
that
meeting
is
probably
going
to
have
five
or
six
items
on
it.
The
first
meeting
in
January
is
probably
gonna
have
five
or
six
items
on
it.
D
The
other
thing
too.
Just
so
you
guys
know
kind
of
how
the
inner
workings
happen
in
the
Planning
Division
over
the
next
month,
or
so
we're
gonna
be
working
on
our
list
of
2019
priorities.
A
lot
of
those
are
informed
on
how
we
see
things
going.
What
the
goals
of
the
city
are,
what
the
needs
of
the
cities
are.
D
We
know
for
a
fact
that
next
year,
housing
is
going
to
be
a
big
focus
for
us
in
when
I
say
that
that's
primarily
along
the
lines
of
identifying
and
trying
to
find
solutions
to
some
of
the
barriers
to
housing.
We've
already
started
that
that's
what
the
SRO
ordinance
was
about.
We're
looking
at
and
you'll
get
an
update,
I
think.
D
Maybe
next
your
next
meeting
on
some
potential
changes
to
the
our
multifamily
zones,
particularly
addressing
some
of
the
town
home
issues,
that
we've
had
some
issues,
some
problems
with
and
that
you
guys
grapple
with
all
the
time.
So
we'll
let
those
with
the
Commission
and
then
you
guys
can
give
us
some
feedback
on
on
that
as
well.
Our
priorities
are
primarily
or
ultimately
determined
by
the
elected
officials,
but
we
try
to
influence
that
through
the
implementation
of
our
master
plans
and
demonstrating
the
importance
of
those
things.
So
well,
we'll
talk
to
you
guys
about
that.
D
D
We
wanted
to
recognize
Emily
drowned
for
her
to
two
terms
on
the
Commission
and
when
Emily
came
on
to
the
under
the
Commission.
It
was
a
much
different
time
than
it
is
now
in
the
city.
I.
Think,
if
you
remember,
we
were
in
the
heart
of
the
at
least
the
recession
as
it
applied
to
Salt
Lake
City,
and
we
were
doing
a
lot
of
long
range
planning
types
of
things,
because
we
didn't
have
a
lot
of
applications.
D
And
now
here
we
are
so
Emily
we
have
a
couple
of
things,
for
you,
one
is,
is
a
a
thank
you
letter
from
I'll
come
up
and
hand
them
to
you,
but
from
from
the
mayor
and
then
and
then
a
recognition
of
of
your
time,
and
if,
if
you
want
I
want
to
on
behalf
of
the
city,
thank
you
for
your
willingness
to
participate
in
the
Planning
Commission.
It's
as
everybody.
Here
knows
it's
long
hours,
it's
sometimes
very
difficult,
but
it's
also
very
important
for
the
for
the
future
of
the
city.
So
thank
you.
E
E
And
it's
just
driving
around
our
city
again
talking
to
people
who
are
out
in
our
city.
What
happens
here
makes
a
big
difference
in
they're
passionate
about
it.
So,
even
though
you're
up,
til,
10:00
or
11:00
at
night
here
and
I'll,
be
sending
my
thoughts,
have
fun
with
us
know
that
it's
making
a
big
impact,
though
this
is
our
city
you're,
defining
our
city
just
make
sure
there
aren't
any
really
long
walls
that
don't
have
any
interest
and
make
sure
all
four
of
them
are
decorated.
E
E
This
will
be
a
fast
one,
but
this
is
when
we
had
almost
this
motorcycle
bike
club
come
in,
and
this
is
for
the
one
that
was
right
behind
epic
and
you
had
these
young
families
come
in
and
talk
about
this
street
that
I
had
never
even
been
on
or
even
known
about
prior
to
being
on
the
board,
and
we
went
on
our
can't
remember
the
name
of
the
street
Edison
Street.
Yes,
with
the
with
those
very
charming
homes
had
no
idea
existed.
E
People
had
sought
out
to
live
on
that
Street
and
they
showed
up,
along
with
the
bike
club,
to
talk
about
how
this
would
impact
them,
allowing
trucks
to
access.
Epic
and
I
just
remember
thinking,
wow,
all
these
people
showed
up
and
we
had
a
pretty
good
group.
They
all
showed
up
on
their
own
to
make
sure
they.
E
Let
us
know
what
a
big
impact
this
was
going
to
be
on
the
community
and
on
potentially
on
kids
and-
and
that
was
a
real
positive,
because
epic
ended
up
working
with
the
community
to
say
what
can
we
do
so
great
things
can
happen
here.
We
can
be
the
arbiters
and
the
brokers,
so
I'm,
some
really
good.
Really
good
communication
and
change
I
mean
oh
I
know
you
have
some
exciting
ones
coming
up.
Can.
C
A
B
A
H
Alright,
this
is
item
number
PLN,
PCM,
20,
1800
666.
It's
a
request
to
vacate
a
portion
of
Meade
Avenue,
which
is
a
city
alley.
It's
called
Avenue,
but
it's
a
city
alley
located
between
800
West
and
Jeremy
Street.
The
reason
for
the
request
is
based
upon
a
concern
of
the
alley
being
a
magnet
for
crime
and
blight
in
the
area.
There's
four
criteria
for
alley:
vacations
or
policy
considerations
rally
vacations
and
one
has
to
be
met
in
order
to
for
the
city
to
consider
vacating
an
alley.
The
there
are
seven
adjacent
property
owners.
H
Six
have
signed
the
petition
in
support
the
one
that
had
not
signed
the
petition
was
going
to
come
to
the
meeting
tonight
for
more
information.
They
weren't
necessarily
opposed
to
it
picture
on
your
screen
shows
the
location
of
meet
Avenue.
It's
between
800,
West
and
I,
said
Jeremy
Street.
So
it's
that
section
only,
although
the
alley
goes
all
the
way
to
900
west.
H
H
Planning
Commission
took
a
field
trip
out
there.
We
didn't
have
a
chance
to
drive
down
the
alley
and
it
would
have
been
a
little
arduous
with
the
big
van,
but
some
photos
of
the
alley
as
it
exists.
This
is
the
east-west
segment
or
east/west,
going
heading
west
towards
900
West
and
there's
also
a
north/south
alley
that
intersects
with
Mead
Avenue,
and
it
runs
between
Dalton
and
Mead.
H
That
is
not
part
of
the
vacation
request,
but
in
the
internal
review
process,
transportation
pointed
out
that
that
alley
would
become
a
dead
end
and
less
usable
if
Mead
were
vacated
again.
This
is
where
meat
intersects
with
Jeremy
street,
so
that
would
be
the
termination
of
the
application
would
terminate
there
and
again.
We
said
that
the
policy
consideration
for
an
alley
vacation
for
processing
had
been
met
and
they
cited
public
safety
concerns.
H
Now,
in
our
review
in
talking
with
the
police,
they
sent
us
a
number
of
reports
and
they
didn't
think
that
the
the
police
reports
didn't
indicate
that
there
was
evidence
that
the
alley
was
problematic.
In
their
words,
it
was
not
alarming
the
amount
of
crime
and
things
like
that.
However,
that
is
the
residents
perception,
so
considerations
and
staff
analysis.
We
were
looking
at
the
fact
that
the
alley
physically
exists
and
is
passable
with
a
passenger
vehicle.
H
That
closure
of
the
alley
would
make
that
north-south
alley
into
a
dead-end
and
make
it
less
useable
and
potential
future
uses
for
the
alley
have
not
been
fully
explored,
whether
that
could
be
for
access
to
an
Adu
in
the
future.
Nothing
on
city
plans
indicates
that
there
are
specific
plans
for
that
alley.
However,
we're
looking
at
it
in
the
context
of
what
are
some
of
the
other
potential
uses
and
again
with
the
creation
of
the
alley
the
applicant
for
the
alley
vacation
actually
lives
in
the
subdivision
to
the
cells
so
we're
it
vacated.
H
The
property
could
not
actually
be
conveyed
by
the
city
to
that
owner.
It
would
have
to
go
to
the
property
owners
in
the
north
case.
Law
in
in
the
Utah
Court
supports
that
so,
as
such
staff
is
recommending
that
the
Planning
Commission
forward
a
negative
work
recommendation
to
the
City
Council
in
regard
to
the
alley
vacation.
A
F
This
is
like
altruistic
purposes
of
we
want
it
closed
when
I
I
was
the
one
that
went
around
and
gathered
all
the
signatures
from
the
neighbors
and
every
single
one
of
them
had
some
story
and
I
was
kind
of
surprised
that
when
David
relate
to
me
the
fact
that
there
was
not
a
lot
of
police
reports
because
several
of
them
said
they
had
and
I
think
for
every
one
that
they
had
called.
There
was
at
least
a
couple
dozen
of
incidents
where
they
had
not
called
the
police.
F
Due
to
you
know
you
just
see
it,
you
either
get
rid
of
it
or
clean
it.
We'll
have
some
examples
of
that.
I
did
bring
on
my
phone
some
pictures
if
that
kind
of
illustrate
what
David
showed,
but
it
shows
kind
of
where
I
think
it
missed
some
of
the
aspects
that
the
alley
is
very
in
a
very
poor
state.
It
has
very
big
potholes,
any
car
that
goes
through
there.
If
they're
smart
will
travel
very
slowly,
and
that
seems
to
not
happen
as
much
as
we'd.
F
Like
my
fence
has
been
ran
over
twice
both
times.
They
were
hit
and
runs.
I
have
somebody's
fender
that
they
just
left
in
my
in
my
fence,
tangled
in
there
I
have
you
know,
I
have
a
small
child.
I
have
a
dog,
our
neighbors,
they
express
the
same
concerns
and
that's
just
talking
about
cars
driving
down
there.
Obviously,
the
bigger
concern
is
the
fact
that
it
is
a
dumping
ground.
Often
we
are
constantly
going
out
there
and
cleaning
trash
and
the
trash
is
not
always
just
your
typical
kitchen
trash.
It's
mattresses,
it's
used,
toilets.
I
Gonna,
yes,
we've
had
tires
plenty
of
tires.
I,
actually
he's
got
a
photo
of
a
guy
that
I
caught
throwing
tires
out
and
I
told
him
to
pick
him
up
and
get
moving.
So
he
when
he
was
gonna,
throw
out
probably
eight
or
ten
tires
into
the
alley
and
that's
a
health
concern.
There
is
a
half
a
gallon
of
oil
that
someone
just
decided
to
drop
off
of
there.
I
We
get
all
sorts
of
items,
cabinets
bookshelves,
anything
you
can
think
of
and
when
we're
cleaning
some
of
this
stuff
up,
we
don't
know
if
there's
needles
or
anything
in
it
plus
we've
had
plenty
of
people
come
through.
I
was
sitting
outside
with
my
tenant
and
we
were
right
next
to
the
fence.
A
couple
of
guys
walked
up,
sat
down
and
decided
to
pull
out
some
needles
and
start
to
shoot
up.
I
witnessed
that
they
did
it.
While
I
was
right
there.
Of
course,
I
ran
him
off.
I
I
didn't
call
the
cops,
because
what
good
is
that
can
I?
Do
you
know
because
they
ran
off.
So
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
are
really
really
terrible
and
when
the
piles
get
big
enough,
we
call
and
talk
to
the
city
and
say
hey.
We
got
a
pile
of
garbage
here
that
somebody
left
they
didn't
want
in
their
yard.
They
wanted
it
in
my
yard.
So,
but
even
when
the
city
comes
to
clean
up,
they
don't
even
get
it
all.
I
C
J
F
F
Thank
you
so,
just
in
conclusion,
we're
talking
about
a
lot
of
overgrowth,
a
lot
of
dumping,
a
poor
maintained
streets
and
what
we're
seeing
is
a
lot
of
nefarious
activity.
That's
happening,
that's
not
always
the
easiest
to
report
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
so
both
in
terms
of
just
a
public
safety
is
kind
of
our
main
concern
like
I
said
we're
not
getting
the
property.
So
we
understand
that.
That's
that's,
not
our
motivation
here.
F
F
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
address,
with
the
dead
end
that
he
spoke
of.
There
are
two
alleys,
one
of
them
that
perpendicular
to
it.
That
is
actually,
as
that
is
part
of
it.
It's
a
very
short
stretch.
Our
next
plan
is
to
shut
that
one
down
too.
It
is
a
smaller
one.
I,
don't
think
we'll
have
as
much
of
a
problem
with
that.
F
It's
not
used
by
any
city
vehicles,
it's
narrower,
but
still
used
for
a
lot
of
foot
traffic
for
the
same
things
that
Clint
described
and
as
for
the
alley
that
continues
where
me
to
have
and
who
continues.
It
would
dead-end
the
Hallie,
but
there
would
be
an
easy
turnoff
on
music,
Jamie,
Street
and
Jeremy
Street,
so
it
would
it
wouldn't
be
a
dead
dead-end.
It
would
just
break
off
and
you
could
easily
go
around
it.
K
F
So
when
I
talked
to
him,
I
described
initially
that
it
would
either
go
mix
between
us
or
that
we've
become
owners
and
we've
even
told
them
that
we
are
happy
to
help
mostly.
The
first
thing
we
want
to
do
is
just
get
a
physical
barrier
to
close
it
off.
That's
what
we
want
first
and
foremost,
and
then
it'll
obviously
be
up
to
them
of
how
they
want
to
maintain
it,
just
as
they
would
the
rest
of
their
property.
K
F
K
I
Wouldn't
because
we
have
to
police
it
literally
every
time
you
see
something,
you
can't
always
call
the
police
they're
five
minutes
away.
We
have
to
take
care
of
it
as
citizens
and
it
would
make
it
a
lot
easier
for
us
to
police
it.
You
know
every
time
we
go
out
there
and
somebody's
throw-in
out
garbage
if
you're
standing
in
the
middle
of
the
road
they
decide,
you
run
you
over.
I
F
L
It
seems
like
one
of
the
challenges
is
that
you
guys
don't
own:
the
property
got
the
alley
its
vacated
from,
and
so
you
need
other
people
than
to
solve.
Like
I
totally
hear
you,
other
people
solve
the
problem
of
actually
stepping
in
to
block
it
off
or
extend
their
lawns
or
do
whatever
it
is
when
it
becomes
someone
else's
property.
Yeah.
F
Absolutely
it's
a
community
of
our
seven
homes
decision
that
we
all
went
into
and
the
one
person
that
didn't
sign
it
was
because
they
were
a
renter
and
the
owner
lives
out
of
country,
and
but
the
renter's
also
were
very
much
on
the
same
page
of
we
also
want
to
get
this
rid
of.
You
know
we
we've
seen
this.
We've
had
people
throw
over
stuff
into
our
yard
and
you.
L
L
F
I
F
B
F
I
I
A
J
F
I
have
said
or
intend
ISM
as
soon
as
we
get
this
one,
we're
gonna
close
that
one
next
I've
already
have
the
signatures
and
I've
talked
to
most.
The
neighbors
I
just
have
to
talk
to
a
few
more
to
get
that
and
it'll
be
the
same
thing.
We
want
to
close
that
off.
Most
everyone
I've
talked
to
so
far,
doesn't
want
it
there.
We
don't
like
that.
We
have
that
problem
that
you
just
expressed
so
that
we
can
physically
close
that
off
with
the
barrier
and
and
stop
that
problem
right
there
and
it's
not
like.
F
We
see
any
I've
seen
probably
the
time
I
live
there,
maybe
two
or
three
cars.
It
is
it's
more
narrow
than
meat
Avenue.
Is
it's
not
really
meant
for
vehicles
to
go
down?
It's
that
one's
more
of
a
foot,
traffic
issue,
but
I
mean
you're
right.
We
have
that
problem
and
that's
exactly
why
we
want
to
get
that
one
closed
down
the
only.
I
I
Down
the
alley,
there's
really
almost
none,
actually
there's
almost
no
overgrowth,
it's
it's
a
you
can
see
down
that
all
the
way
to
the
end.
If
you
look
from
one
end
of
me
to
the
other,
you
can't
even
hardly
see
the
other
side.
There's
that
much
overgrowth,
there's
I
wish
we
could
put
up
the
pictures.
I
had
them
all
commented,
there's
spots
where
people
stash
stuff
there's
a
couple
spots
where
people
you
know,
decide
to
use
it
as
a
bathroom.
I
There's
that
much
cover
that
that's
where
they
go
to
do
it
there's
no
cover
where
that
would
dead-end,
because
it's
my
property
and
his
property
and
then
it
would
be
another
fence,
there's
nowhere
for
people
to
stop
and
go.
Oh
look.
I
can
hide
in
this
bush
and
do
drugs
really
the
pictures
we
really
need
them.
I
would.
F
A
M
Name
is
mark
Mason
I'm,
one
of
the
co-owners
of
815
Fayette,
so
the
loan
non
opinion
we
were
never
approached
as
there
is
a
renter
there
likely
they
didn't
know
how
to
reach
us.
So
I
live
locally.
We
owned
it
three
ways.
The
other
two
co-owners
are
out
of
state
really.
My
concern
is
really
the
plan
of
action,
so
we
have
other
properties
that
are
also
adjacent
to
alleys,
so
we're
very
familiar
with
this
type
of
challenge
of
nefarious
activity.
M
Drug
activity
we've
had
to
throw
people
out
of
people
that
camped
in
our
garage,
people
that
went
behind
our
garage
and
camped
out
people
that
went
into
storage
sheds
and
camped
out
so
we're
we're
very
sensitive
and
we're
support
of
doing
something.
My
biggest
concern
is
without
a
full
plan
of
fencing
it
regulating
it
preventing
anybody
from
actually
getting
in
there.
The
problem
actually
could
become
worse.
M
So
as
an
example,
our
property
is
adjacent
to
the
very
edge
of
that
our
garage
covers
half
of
the
rear
of
our
property,
which
means
if
the
property
line
moves
back.
Even
if
I
put
a
fence
up,
we
have
a
Hidden
Cove
behind
the
garage
that
is
now
ten
feet
deep
out
of
sight
out
of
visibility
from
our
direct
access.
Nobody
is
going
to
scare
anybody
away
with
a
car
driving
past
nobody's
going
to
walk
by
and
scare
somebody
back
and
we've
seen
those
that
are
into
derelict
activity,
not
really
care.
M
Looking
for
a
place,
that's
secluded
and
shaded
behind
my
garage,
all
of
a
sudden,
becomes
an
invitation
without
some
other
method
to
control
that.
So
my
concern
is:
what
is
the
plan
to
solve,
for
that
is
it
City
is
going
to
provide
funds
because
we're
taking
over
the
maintenance
of
a
row
of
an
alley
that
the
city
previously
had
responsibility
for?
Is
there
a
stipend
to
to
take
that
over
or
is
it
pure
homeowner
responsibility
to
solve
the
vagrancy
issue?.
A
N
C
A
H
C
J
H
No
there's
two
kind
of
simultaneous
properties.
You
could
close
an
alley
and
not
vacate
it,
which
would
mean
the
alleys
closed.
But
the
city
retains
ownership
of
the
pro
endure
lying
property,
but
typically
would
vacate
it,
meaning
that
it
goes
away
and
the
property
is
transferred
to
those
to
the
adjacent
owners,
probably
a
ways
back.
H
We
had
an
alley
that
we
were
working
on
a
vacation
by
the
Lincoln
elementary
school
kind
of
here
in
Central
City,
and
that
was
an
example
of
an
alley
that
had
been
closed
by
the
city
in
the
early
80s
I,
believe
and
then
not
vacated.
So
then
itself
presented
a
problem
because
when
it
wasn't
easily
accessible,
it
really
didn't
get
maintained
at
all.
So.
B
If
is
there
any
issue
with
the
applicants
not
being
the
ones
that
have
any
right
to
the
property?
That's
going
to
be
vacated,
I
mean
part
of
the
discussion.
Here
is
whether
or
not
it's
going
to
be
properly
that's
going
to
solve
the
problem,
and
it's
going
to
be
up
to
other
people
who
aren't
the
applicant
to
solve
the
problem.
So
is
that,
is
it
improper
that
the
applicant
is
not
the
one
that
the
property
would
be
conveyed
to
no.
H
B
Then,
what
sort
of
codes
would
they
have
to
adhere
to
with
fencing
or
whatever
barriers
they
put
up?
I
mean?
Is
it?
Is
that
problematic
being
that
this,
like
the
the
one
house
here
on
800
West,
sits
so
far
back
and
there'd
be
presumably
a
fence?
That
would
be
there
that
the
fence
would
almost
look
like
it's
in
the
front
yard
of
that
house
and,
like
is
that?
Are
there
other
issues
there
related
to
how
they're
going
to
close
that
off?
Not.
H
H
J
J
Would
they
would
need
to
still
get
a
guarantee
from
these
owners
to
the
north
that
they're
gonna
be
that
they
want
to
purchase
the
property
right
to
be
able
to
don't?
You
guys
need
to
get
permission
from
the
people
to
purchase
that
property
and
those
people
what
if
they
want?
What,
if
they
neglect,
or
they
don't
want
to
purchase
that
property
that
that
their
have
access
to
or
what?
If
they
don't
want
to
put
up
a
fence,
and
they
want
to
keep
their
side
well.
H
J
Because
I've
I've
seen
alleys
like
this
get
renovated
and
be
amazing
in
other
cities
and
I.
Think
the
potential
for
that
is
there.
I
personally
have
an
alley
behind
my
house,
even
though
I
don't
use
it
I
I'd
like
to
know
that
there's
that
access
there,
if
I,
need
it
in
the
future,
but
at
the
same
time
I
feel
like
there's.
G
So
I
also
have
an
alley
behind
my
house
and
it
about
my
house
20
years
ago
and
ten
years
ago,
I
tore
down
the
garage.
I
had
built
a
new
one
with
alley.
Access
and
I
I
go
out
and
I
weed
three
house
worth
I
sleep
at
that
Lee.
Today
of
all
the
debris
and
I
and
I
recognize
that
part
of
maintaining
it
is
because
I
want
it
to
function
well
and
look
nice
and
so
I.
G
Do
it,
and
but
I
appreciate
that
I
had
the
option
to
orient
to
my
garage
how
I
ended
up
doing
it
and
if
that
alley
had
been
vacated
behind
my
house
at
some
point,
that
would
have
never
been
an
option
and
I'm
very
reticent
about
vacating
city
property.
When
there
is
a
public
use
or
a
potentially
higher
public
use
and
eighties,
when
we
did
a
field
trip,
Nick
was
it
the
was.
What
was
the
project
where
it
was
the
RDA
and
all
of
the
garages
had
to
be
accessed
from
the
alley.
G
So
you
know
III,
just
I,
guess
I'm
really
more
concerned
to
with
future
decisions
of
property
owners.
Ad
use
is
one
of
them,
but
to
take
away
public
uses
I
totally
understand
my
alley
has
almost
every
one
of
those
same
issues
brought
up.
This
is
definitely
not
a
unique
situation.
The
other
parts
of
the
alley
where
I
don't
live
are
look
horrible
because
those
people
don't
choose
to
go
out
and
weed
and
take
care
of
it.
G
The
way
that
I
do,
but
that's
you
know
their
choice
but
I
deal
with
stuff
dumped
there,
maybe
not
to
the
degree
of
that,
but
I,
definitely
that
that
escalates
homeless
people
needles
just
all
that
stuff,
but
it
but
I,
guess
I.
Just
think
back,
like
I
think
that
I
have
a
better
situation
now,
with
the
way
I
was
at
were
able
to
orient.
G
My
garage
I
was
able
to
actually
get
a
little
bit
more
yard
because
I
don't
have
all
this
concrete
back
there,
and
but
that
would
have
been
a
choice
that
I
would
never
have
been
able
to
make
because
and
now
I
was
vacated.
And
now
this
this
public
use
has
to
have
been
taken
away
because
I
didn't
do
it
right
away.
It
took
me
10
years
to
do
it
and
there
are
two
other
houses,
the
street
that
have
been
saying.
They
want
to
do
that
too.
So,
I
I
struggle
with
vacating
any
public
property.
G
I
really
would
like
to
look
at
the
use.
I
like
to
look
at
the
potential
uses
if
they're,
strong,
public
and
I,
but
but
I
understand
the
conundrum
of
wanting
it
to
be
in
good
repair.
But
we
know
the
city
can't
I
mean
the
city
can't
even
take
care
of
our
Main
Roads,
let
alone
every
alley
Road
so,
but
but
I
think
it
can
be
been
a
beneficial
to
property
owners
at
some
point,
and
it
kind
of
is
how
you
want
to
how
you
want
to
look
at
it
and
how
you
value
it.
G
C
C
C
I'm
entirely
sympathetic
to
the
issues
that
they're
raising
I
mean
I.
When
I
lived
in
Baltimore,
we
had
the
exact
same
problem
and
we
had
a
pedestrian
alley
behind
our
row
house,
but
we
gated
it
and
all
of
the
neighbors
had
a
key
and
could
get
back
there,
but
nobody
else
could
and-
and
it
worked
so
I
would
just
encourage
the
city
to
think
about
more
creative
options.
If
the
city's
policy
is
not
to
maintain
the
alleys
and
give
residents
some
opportunities
to
take
ownership
of
it
without
taking
title.
D
K
The
city
could
benefit
from
having
that
particular
alley.
There
I
mean
people
are
building
alleys
now
in
new
subdivisions
because
they
provide
so
much
opportunity
for
to
make
the
front
of
the
home
better
and
so
that
you
can
put
your
driveways
and
your
parking
back
there
and
your
ad
use
and
your
trash
collection
and
and
everything
else.
So
they
have
very
strong
uses
such
strong
uses
that
people
want
them.
So
I
think
that
this
is.
It
would
be
a
great
solution
to
have
a
temporary
solution.
C
Ready
to
make
a
motion
Thank
You
Sara,
based
on
the
findings
and
not
and
now,
let's
maybe
I'm,
not
based
on
the
findings
and
analysis
and
the
staff
report.
Testimony
and
discussion
of
the
public
hearing
I
move
that
the
Planning
Commission
transmit
a
negative
recommendation
to
the
City
Council
for
the
mead
Avenue
alley.
Vacation
file,
PLN
PCM,
2018,
zero,
zero,
six,
six,
six
for
the
following
or
for
the
reasons
listed
in
the
staff
report
in
a.
A
J
I'm
gonna
vote
YES,
but
I
also
just
want
to
comment
that
I
think
that
so
there's
there's
actually
four
different
reasons
that
this
applicant
could
claim
and
they're
claiming
public
safety.
I.
Don't
know
that
they're
making
a
substantial
case
for
that
I
think
a
community
purpose
might
be
a
much
better
option.
Speaking
to
your
solution
may
be
getting
some
fences
in
there
and
making
it
a
community
park
or
something-
and
that's
actually
one
of
the
reasons
they
can
use
so
yeah.
Although
yes
Sarah.
G
A
G
L
O
Okay,
this
is
a
request
to
amend
the
zoning
map
of
the
property
located
at
2058
north
2200
watts
from
the
existing
AG,
which
is
an
agricultural
district
m1,
which
is
light
manufacturing.
The
property
owner
is
seeking
to
mend
the
property
to
implement
the
future
land
use
designations
noted
in
the
applicable
master
plan
and
to
increase
the
economic
viability
of
the
property
m1.
Zoning
does
align
with
the
future
anticipated
use
of
the
property
right.
The
property
is
approximately
two
point:
six
five
acres
in
size
and
abuts
AG,
zoning
to
the
east
and
partially
on
the
west.
O
O
O
The
2017
amendment,
which
is
described
in
your
staff
report,
incorporated
the
addition
of
buffer
yards
to
the
m1
for
the
four
properties
adjacent
to
the
AG
2
and
AG
5.
These
mitigation
measures
were
adopted
to
ensure
adequate
buffering
between
future
commercial
developments
along
2,200
west
and
the
remaining
agricultural
zoning
and
uses
the
proposed
m1.
Zoning
district
would
provide
the
required
buffer
yards
due
to
the
proximity
of
the
AG
to
zone.
O
The
one
verbal
comment
was
received
via
phone.
This
was
after
your,
the
staff
report
was
published.
The
comment
was
generally
in
relation
to
the
amendments
across
2200
West
and
the
loss
of
the
AG
to
zone
properties
and
the
property
owner
did
express
that
she
worked
closely
with
Wayne
who
processed
the
previous
amendment
to
adopt
those
buffer
yards
to
protect
the
existing
agricultural
uses.
O
O
O
G
O
G
O
O
O
O
C
C
I
C
C
C
A
G
O
O
In
the
previous
amendment,
which
was
processed
in
2007,
also
mapped
the
bp2
m1,
which
was
further
south
and
so
cg
wouldn't
be
supported.
We
took
a
look
at
the
land
use
for
CG
and
it
does
allow
self-storage
units
and
m1
didn't
allow
self
for
self
storage
units,
and
so
that
was
incorporated
in
the
inland
port
overlay,
and
so
the
overlay
would
allow
for
self
storage
units.
What.
D
In
the
due
to
the
overlay,
we
made
that
change
because
we
couldn't,
it
was
personal
store,
personal
storage
wasn't
allowed,
but
then
like
outdoor
commercial
storage
and
things
were-
and
so
we
just
at
we
fixed.
We
viewed
that
as
a
fix
in
the
m1
zone,
because
we
already
had
those
uses
occurring
in
other
parts.
So
the
overlay
really
just
adds
additional
process
for
those
conditional
uses
and
then
limits
kind
of
bulk
storage
locations
and
put
some
design
or
some
qualifying
provisions
around
how
that
occurs.
But
it
doesn't
really
impact
uses
of
the
underlying
zone.
D
G
C
J
A
P
Here's
a
photo
of
the
existing
home
on
the
lot,
which
currently
sits
at
24.3
feet
tall
the
new
house
to
be
constructed,
will
have
a
similar
front
yard
setback
and
is
also
meeting
all
other
zoning
regulations.
Besides
the
height
again,
this
property
is
zoned
r2,
which
allows
single
and
two
family
structures,
but
different
types
of
zoning
districts,
including
single-family,
multifamily,
commercial
and
commercial,
are
kind
of
found
throughout
this
general
vicinity
off
of
nine
south.
P
One
of
the
standards
to
gain
additional
height
is
that
the
proposed
height
of
the
new
home
must
be
in
keeping
with
the
development
pattern
on
the
block
face.
So
the
applicant
did
submit
a
survey
that
shows
four
of
the
seven
houses
on
the
block
face
are
actually
taller
than
the
23
feet
being
requested,
and
then
the
tallest
house,
on
the
block
face
which
you
can
see
here-
768
South,
900
East,
that
sits
at
35
feet
tall.
P
This
is
the
proposed
front
elevation
as
you
can
see
the
height
of
the
building
from
established
great
to
the
top
of
the
wall,
plate
measures
20
feet,
but
the
guardrail
pushes
it
to
the
23
feet,
which
is
over
height
upon
sending
out
the
initial
special
exception
notice.
The
city
received
some
general
concerns
regarding
the
massing
of
the
structure,
especially
compared
to
the
other
pitched
roof
structures
on
the
Block
face.
They
may
be
similar
in
height,
but
they
do
taper
at
the
top
to
reduce
their
perceived
massing
versus
a
flat
roof
structure.
P
The
additional
height
also
allows
for
the
roof
deck
space,
and
for
these
reasons,
staff
is
suggesting
that
the
applicant
pushed
the
guardrail
in
two
feet
from
the
roofs
edge
along
its
perimeter
to
reduce
the
massing
from
the
street
level,
especially
and
to
also
kind
of
centralize
the
roof
deck
activity,
and
then
here's
just
an
image
of
the
West
elevation.
Just
so
you
can
get
an
idea
what
the
side
elevations
will
look
like
and
again.
This
measures
23
feet
to
the
top
of
the
guardrail
from
from
established
grade.
P
So
with
that
planning
staff
is
recommending
approval,
with
the
condition
that
the
guardrail
be
pushed
back.
We
feel
that
this
condition
helps
to
soundly
meet
special
exception.
Standard
D,
which
is
regarding
compatibility
with
surrounding
development.
I,
did
want
to
point.
As
the
applicants
roof
plan
shows,
they
have
tried
to
centralize
the
roof
activity
and
keep
kind
of
greens
more
green
space
around
the
perimeter.
So
I
wanted
to
show
you
that
plan
for
your
reference.
So
please,
let
me
know
if
you
have
any
questions.
L
P
Can
build
dormers,
you
have
to
meet
the
wall
height
requirement,
which
is
20
feet
and
sometimes,
if,
depending
on
the
width
of
the
dormer
dormers
are
usually
exempt
from
wall
height
unless
they
have
a
long,
a
really
long,
wide,
dormer
and
then
they'll
count.
So
you
can
go
to
20
feet
to
the
top
of
the
wall,
plate
of
the
dormer
I'm.
L
Just
going
to
get
a
sense
of
like
privacy
for
the
neighbors
and
backyards,
if
you've
got
someone,
that's
20
feet
up,
then
another
five
six
feet
standing.
You
know
which
could
you
have
other
people
in
a
similar
house
that
was
built
that
you
know
built
of
that
height
with
people
who
could
peer
down
and
do
your
neighbor
into
your
yard?
Was
there
any
consideration
to
that
privacy,
sort
of
question
for
neighboring
properties
or
any
discussion
around
that
yeah.
P
And
that
was
a
part
of
the
reason
for
kind
of
pushing
the
guardrail
in
but
I
suppose,
even
with
a
pitched
roof
structure,
you
could
do
some
kind
of
external
roof
and
that
would
be
allowed
under
28
feet,
I'm
trying
to
think
of
a
scenario
where
that
would
be
like
you're
saying,
but
that
was
that's
kind
of
the
reason.
One
of
the
reasons
for
the
condition
is.
L
B
B
B
B
A
M
Hopefully
my
name's
Brett
Ross
and
I'm,
the
applicant
I
just
want
to
build
a
home.
That's
nice
in
the
area,
I've
lived
in
other
cities
and
I
I've
lived
in
LA
I
lived
in
New,
York,
City
and
I
appreciate
the
value
of
what
roof
access
can
be
actually
and
I.
Think
Salt,
Lake
City
is
a
beautiful
city.
I
think
just
the
ability
of
that
small
lot
of
that
home
is
on
to
maybe
use
that
access
on
the
roof
would
be
very,
very
beneficial
for
us.
M
So
actually,
as
Lawrence
said,
we
did
try
to
put
the
activity
on
the
roof
towards
the
center
of
the
roof,
taking
into
consideration
the
neighbors
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
the
home
to
the
to
the
east
of
the
home
does
have
a
dormer
window
that
is
quite
tall
and
would
even
be
looking
down
on
the
roof.
Quite
honestly,
yeah
right
there
to
the
left
so
and
the
home
on
the
bottom
is
huge.
M
C
M
It's
not
ideal,
I
would
prefer
that
we
just
be
given
approval
for
the
guardrail.
I've
talked
with
Lauren
about
this
extensively,
and
you
know
if
that
is
the
condition
to
get
the
approval
to
have
the
step
back,
then
we
could
work
with
that.
I
would
prefer
not
to,
but
what
I'll
say?
Yes,
if
I
have
to.
K
K
Are
you
and
some
of
them
like
one
of
them,
is
a
Red,
Bud
and
I'm
concerned
that
the
applicant
that
you're
paying
attention
to
the
requirements
for
this
kind
of
the
load
requirements,
not
because
I'm
the
building
inspector,
but
because,
if
those
are,
if
that
could
have
a
very
positive
impact
on
the
neighbor
on
the
neighbors
view
into
your
property
and
if
they
actually
can't
be
built,
then
then
that
would
be
a
concern.
I
think,
because
I
would
be
much
more
supportive
if
I
knew
that.
That
stuff
was
actually
going
to
be
possible.
K
K
K
K
M
We
were
trying
to
lessen
the
impact
of
the
height
increase
so
either
whether
it
be
glass
or
metal.
You
know
guardrail.
We
thought
that
would
kind
of
take
away
from
theirs.
I,
don't
want
to
build
a
lot
of
structure
around
it
if
we
don't
have
to
but
have
to
see
through
or
kind
of
guard
the
metal
guard
rail
you
can
see
through.
That
would
make
it
much
more.
It
would
make.
K
M
L
M
A
A
B
K
P
K
B
L
Staff
I'm
just
trying
I
know
we
had
this
issue
of.
There
was
a
restaurant
that
goes
in
like
11th,
east
and
13th
south,
and
a
number
of
us
were
not
necessarily
supportive
of
like
the
rooftop,
dining
sort
of
thing,
but
the
height
that
whatever
seemed
to
fit
the
standards
in
this
case
least
for
me,
I
mean
I.
Think
the
height
thing
is
not
the
problem,
it's
the
privacy
of
what
the
neighbors
kind
of
feel,
but
is
that?
L
D
It's
kind
of
a
little
bit
of
both
I
think
the
the
question
becomes.
How
much
different
is
that
if
it
were
a
pitch,
if
they
somehow
did
something
with
a
pitched
roof
to
do
something
similar-
and
you
know
and
Lauren
explained
that
you
know
yeah-
that
you
could
have
essentially
a
third
kind
of
a
half
story
of
livable
space
in
a
pitched
roof
at
28
feet,
and
you
can
have
a
series
of
dormers
as
long
as
they're,
not
more
than
10
feet
wide.
D
D
L
P
D
K
C
K
C
L
G
A
B
K
I
Don't
have
anything
funny
to
start
with
I'll
just
say
thanks
for
having
me
here.
This
is
a
plan
development
request
at
approximately
2:05
North
redwood
road
to
construct
a
two
hundred.
Ninety
nine
unit,
multifamily
residents
with
Altman.
On
about
two
point:
seven,
three
acres:
you
look
at
the
map
on
the
right.
The
subject
property
is
outlined
in
red.
I
It's
located
on
the
west
side
of
redwood
road,
just
north
of
North
Temple
Boulevard,
with
easy
access
to
two-track
stations,
one
on
each
side,
redwood
road,
the
property
is
currently
vacant,
except
for
a
small
parking
area
that
appears
to
be
long
abandoned.
The
surrounding
uses
consist
of
mostly
recently
constructed
apartment
buildings
and
suburban
style
kind
of
shopping
center
to
the
south.
The
area
is
growing
rapidly.
We've
had
several
hundred
units
been
bill
in
the
last
few
years,
including
some
by
the
developers
here.
I
I
So
it
should
be
noted
that
the
project
did
receive
the
required
number
of
points
during
its
TSA
review
to
be
reviewed.
Administrative
Lee,
so
not
here
for
that
sort
of
approval,
but
the
project
is
being
viewed
as
a
plan.
Development
as
the
applicant
has
requested
three
modifications
of
the
zoning
ordinance
so
and
these
requests
are
really
due
to
the
property
having
frontage
on
three
streets.
I
So
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
we're
looking
at
the
site
plan
here,
redwood
road
is
at
the
bottom
of
the
page,
girdi
on
the
left
and
herald
on
the
top.
It's
not
shown
here
but
herald
street
actually
only
stands
for
approximately
125
feet
before.
It
then
connects
to
a
private
gated
Drive,
which
accesses
the
adjacent
apartment,
development
access
into
this
proposed
development
to
come
from
Gertie
Avenue
and
from
a
private
drive
on
the
north
side,
which
connects
to
redwood
road.
So
in
here
the
shaded
areas
are
the
actual
outline
of
the
proposed
structures.
I
Much
of
the
structures
will
actually
cover
the
parking
areas
below
which
will
be,
which
will
occupy
the
ground
floor.
It
will,
it
will
be
visible
from
Herald
Street,
but
it
will
not
be
visible
from
redwood
road
or
most
of
Gertie
Avenue,
as
those
as
the
structures
have
active
ground
floor
uses
that
open
up
onto
the
street,
with
no
openings
into
the
parking
area,
because
it
is
visible
from
Herald.
Street
staff
has
recommended
placing
conditions
on
approval
to
screen
those
areas
from
view,
so
here's
a
rendering
showing
the
intersection
of
redwood
road
and
Gertie
Avenue.
I
The
applicants
worked
hard
to
really
show
this
corner
as
a
focal
point
for
the
project.
The
building
is
five
stories
tall
about
60
feet
in
height,
the
building
materials
consist
of
glass,
hardy
board
and
brick,
there's
no
stucco
on
the
structure
and
the
materials
and
design
everything
is
consistent
on
all
sides
and
structure,
including
those
that
are
reared
that
are
necessary
in
the
public
view.
I,
don't
want
to
go
into
a
lot
of
detail
with
the
architectural
design
of
specific
details,
because
the
applicants
have
they
prepared
net
presentations,
so
I'll.
Let
them
get
into
that.
I
A
longer
D,
Avenue
and
redwood
road,
the
project
meets
all
design
standards
for
the
tsa
zone.
It's
a
long,
Harold
Street
is
where
the
issues
begin,
and
that
leads
us
to
or
next
slide.
So
if,
as
mentioned,
the
plenty
of
element,
modification
requests
to
the
project
are
located
on
the
southwest
corner
of
the
project
along
Herald
Street.
So
if
you
look
on
the
left
image,
you
can
see
Harold
image,
it's
outlined
in
red,
extends
125
feet
and
then
becomes
a
private
drive.
You
can
also
show
that
it's
it's
basically
located
in
the
middle
of.
C
G
I
G
I
I
G
I
Continue
so
and
then
we
have
the
street
view
down
on
the
on
the
right
side.
I
think
you
can,
you
can
tell
it
really.
It
looked
kind
of
looks,
appears
and
is
utilized
as
a
private
drive
and
not
necessarily
as
a
public
street.
However,
technically
it
remains
a
public
street
and
as
a
public
street,
it
means
it
needs
to
meet
any
zoning
standards
that
reference
buildings
along
a
public
street.
I
Here's
showing
what
that
West
elevation
could
be.
This
is
the
private
drive
or
Harold
Street
here
and
Gerti
Avenue
on
this
side.
Here,
as
you
can
see
in
the
image
of
building,
is
not
located
against
Harold
Street.
It
is
on
the
gurdy
side,
but
not
on
the
Harold
maximum
front
yard.
Setback
requires
50%
of
the
building
facade
to
be
no
more
than
10
feet,
away
from
the
property
line,
so
it'll
be
the
first
proposed
modification.
It's
currently,
the
building
is
approximately
is
proposed
at
89
feet
from
Harold
Street.
I
The
area
between
the
building,
facade
and
Harold
Street
is
proposed
as
landscaping
and
surface
parking.
Surface
parking
is
not
allowed
in
the
required
corner
side
yard
areas
which
so
that
makes
that
the
second
requested
modification
and
the
third
is
of
the
ground
floor.
A
long
Harold
Street
does
not
meet
the
required
design
standards
such
as
glass
entrances
and
exterior
building
materials
for
a
ground
floor,
because
it
is
it's
actually
open
to
the
to
the
ground
floor
parking
area
to
provide
access
and
to
allow
for
ventilation.
I
I
think
it
is
muted
because
it
is
90
feet
away
and
there
is
landscaping
things
in
between,
but
it's
only
still
it's
facing
that
street
and
is
technically
requirement.
I
do
think
that
it
should.
We
noted
that
the
develoment
does
provide
activated
spaces
to
over
600
linear
feet,
a
redwood
road
in
Korea,
Avenue,
so
I
think
that's
something
just
keep
in
mind.
It
I
still
think
that
it's
important
that
that's
that
portion
of
Harold
Street
is
activated
and
the
surface
parking
areas
should
be
screened.
I
This
is
this
area's
detailed
here
in
the
next
slide,
the
North
temple
Bulevar
master
plan.
It
is
very
supportive
of
high
density
development
in
this
area.
It
does
advocate
for
open
space
as
well.
The
plan
does
not
call
for
paving
over
and
constructing
buildings
over
every
square
inch
of
this
neighborhood,
and
you
know
we
would
support
helping
us
become
a
little
bowl
in
a
walkable
neighborhood
snapple,
easy
open
space
does
help
the
project
to
meet
the
intent
of
there's
only
one.
I
It's
the
master
plan
I
think
it's
very
important
that
the
parking
areas
are
screened,
which
is
why
staff
is
out
of
the
condition
that
surface
parking
areas
must
be
at
least
eight
feet
from
the
property
line
and
be
screened
with
hedge
or
wall.
They
are
proposed
that
way
along
Harold
Street,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
wrapped
around
on
that
Grady
Avenue
too,
to
try
and
hide
that
surface
parking
area.
I
L
N
Thank
you
for
your
time
tonight
just
like
to
say
that,
as
mentioned
by
John,
we
have
been
developing
in
the
area
since
2014
we
were
the
first
developer
to
break
ground
with
multifamily
on
North
Temple
corridor
in
20
plus
years.
We
are
very
excited
about
the
area.
We
appreciate
and
agree
with
the
zoning.
We
think
it
is
a
benefit
to
the
city
and
to
what
we
do.
N
So
we
are
excited
to
the
continued
progress
in
positive
progress
in
the
area
and
what
I'd
like
to
say
as
an
owner
and
developer,
creating
an
inviting
space
and
a
place
where
people
can
congregate
and
who
feel
welcome
to
be
around
the
area
be
around
the
buildings
and
welcome
them
into
the
buildings
is
very
important
to
me
as
again
as
an
owner
and
developer.
So
with
that,
what
I
like
to
do
is
turn
it
over
to
my
colleague
Eric,
who
is
the
expert
in
in
design,
site
plan,
facade
and
sure.
Q
So
in
just
I,
don't
want
to
take
too
much
time.
I
know
these
means
can
drag
on
a
bit.
So
I
will
try
to
be
brief
here,
but
there's
just
a
few
items.
I'd
like
to
address
and
just
point
out
in
our
design
process.
We
were
very
cognizant
of
the
the
transit
station
area,
development,
score
review
process
and
really
made
a
strong
effort
to
to
meet
the
goals
of
the
city
and
the
design
of
the
project.
So
we
we
met
it
with
the
density
of
the
use.
Q
This
project
has
approximately
300
units
added,
which
is
about
100
units,
an
acre.
We
are
redeveloping,
non-conforming
uses.
We
have
360-degree
architecture,
we
didn't
want
cheapen
the
rear
of
the
building.
If
you
will,
because
it's
a
corner
building,
we
wanted
to
respond
to
that
on.
The
corner
of
Redwood
have
a
lot
of
eyes
on
the
street
in
public
spaces.
With
the
project
we
are
utilizing.
Q
Some
of
the
rooftop
design
use
space
for
the
tenants
of
the
building,
with
a
rooftop
plaza
and,
and
there
is
the
access
to
transit
and
then
our
parking
ratio,
it's
just
under
one
one
stall
per
unit.
So
with
those
we
got
a
score
out
of
a
required
score
of
125,
one
of
the
buildings
scored
a
120,
a
138
and
the
other
150.
So
we
tried
to
supersede
the
the
requirements
of
the
city
in
in
that
way
with
our
building
design.
Q
That
being
said,
the
reason
why
we're
in
front
of
you
today
is
because
of
of
the
additional
125
foot
street
on
the
the
west,
so
this
is
the
rendering
that
that
he
showed
earlier
about
our
goals
for
that
area,
and
so
along
Herald
streets,
a
strict
application
of
the
code
would
require
a
building,
be
built
right
directly
against
that
roadway.
We
don't
believe
that's
the
best
solution
in
this
scenario,
because
there
there
are
so
many
residential
units
in
the
area.
C
Q
Q
We
see
this
as
a
positive
development
moving
forward
as
depending
on
what
the
property
to
the
south
develops
as
there's
been
some
potential
of
Harrell
Street,
potentially
running
further
to
the
south
through
the
through
the
parcel
or
whatnot,
and
we
see
this
as
kind
of
a
good
location
for
that
that
more
community
centered
space
to
provide
that
that
grounding
to
the
community.
So
that
was
that
was
our
goals.
K
Yeah
I'm
I'm
interested
in
the
design
details
of
your
Park,
and
so
one
of
the
things
I
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
about
is,
is
how
is
putting
a
park
in
the
middle
of
what's
essentially
a
car
oriented
area,
in
other
words,
there's
parking
on
one
side
and
a
street
on
the
other.
So
that's
not
normally,
where
we
put
parks
it's,
you
know
we
usually
associate
them
with
a
building
and
this
really
isn't
associated
with
a
building
and
and
and
and
it's
also
attached
to
a
parking
lot.
K
I
would
recommend
you
to
look
a
little
bit
at
the
planting
plan
and
the
orientation
of
that
park
so
that
it's
a
so
that
it
is
a
place
where
you
know
a
person
could
sit
and
comfortably
not
feel
like
somebody
could
sneak
up
behind
them
on
the
street
and
you
know,
and
from
the
street,
so
they
can
watch
the
street,
which
is
where
people
tend
to
want
to
watch.
They
don't
want
to
watch
a
parking
lot.
K
So
even
if
there's
not
that
much
going
on
in
the
street
and
putting
the
sidewalk
next
to
the
street
would
make
more
stuff
going
on
so
you'd
be
sort
maximizing
all
the
other
things
you're
trying
to
do
here
with
your
with
your
park,
and
then
it
becomes
it's
just
a
nice
Street
escape
in
a
sense
rather
than
a
part
per
se.
So
that's
that's
so
I
was
just
asking
about
what
what
the
height
of
those
grasses
is
because
I
don't
know,
I'm
not
familiar
with
that
kind
of
grass.
K
K
K
Or
something
I
wouldn't
worry
about
it
at
all,
but
if
it's
a
if
it's
something
that's
five
or
six
feet
tall
and
somebody
sitting
in
those
areas
with
you,
know
grass
and
want
them
with
tall
trees
on
one
side
and
and
bushes
on
one
side
and
grasses
on
the
other
they're
kind
of
in
a
place
where
it
might
be
rather
dangerous.
Just.
N
A
comment
on
that,
because
it's
something
that
is
specific
to
how
I
like
to
see
things,
we've
put
those
tall
grasses
in
because
they
are
separated
and
they
allow
you
to
see
the
force
of
the
trees.
If
you
will
so
it's
not
meant
to
be
a
hedge
I,
don't
think
anything
on.
There
represents
a
solid
wall
or
a
hedge.
To
your
point,
where
you
could
you
know
somebody
can
come
up
from
behind
you,
you
can't
see
through
it,
so
it's
spaced
tall
grasses
that
are
individual
columns.
Q
Into
and
to
address
your
other,
your
other
comment
on
on
the
the
location
and
configuration
of
the
park
I,
don't
know
that
Park
is
really
the
most
appropriate
term
it.
We
really
see
it
more
as
a
kind
of
a
paseo
or
more
of
a
place
of
more
movement
than
a
park,
and
you
tip
is
to
be
a
destination.
This
is
more
of
an
impromptu
meeting
spot
and
and
somewhere
as
the
residents
filter
through
the
property
they
they
would.
They
would
meet
to
to
then
proceed
somewhere
else
and
in
that
way
and.
K
And
I
I
agree
with
that
assessment.
I
I
think
that,
actually
you
know
if
this
is
what
we're
getting
instead
of
having
a
street
front
that
perhaps
some
kind
of
a
pergola
or
something
where
you
would
actually
have
a
little
shade,
it
would
actually
be
a
place
where
somebody
would
comfortably
could
comfortably
sit.
You
know
at
some
point,
probably
more
often
than
they
would
in
in
the
bright
Sun,
so
I
mean
I'm
thinking
more
that
facing
the
street
and
having
somewhat
of
a
covering.
K
Q
B
Q
B
Q
Yes,
so
we
could
do
it,
another
building
on
that
corner
would
be.
That
would
be
the
we
would
have
to
address
that
right
and
that
that
is
a
possibility.
In
looking
at
this
site
and
looking
at
the
surrounding
development
that's
occurred
here,
we
felt
it
was
more
beneficial
to
to
open
this
space
and
create
an
area
of
gathering
I.
Think
that
if,
if
it
it's
too
enclosed,
it
would
have
a
dramatically
different
feel
to
it,
and
there
wouldn't
be
that
that
that
place
for
community.
N
What
one
comment
on
that?
We
I
think
it
was
mentioned
that
we
have
activated
over
600
feet
and
Gerti
Street.
So
we
are
trying
to
draw
the
people
in
and
get
that
activity
there
and
to
Eric's
point.
There
is,
if
we
don't
put
this
in
there,
there
is
really
no
other
outdoor
area
to
congregate,
to
to
meet
up
and
to
get
a
little
bit
of
greenery
in
the
area
where
there
are
now
or
where
there
will
be
over
800
different
units
so
and.
B
K
Q
K
So
that,
because
there's
also
a
stand
of
trees
there
and
there's
a
stand
of
there's
a
stand
of,
and
as
somewhat
of
a
depression
where
you
could
have
a
little
learners
water
actually
coming
in
there.
So
I
mean,
if
it's
possible
to
actually
have
a
real
pocket
park
there
on
the
corner.
That
would
be
I.
Think
a
lot
more
acceptable
than
and
and
bring
the
parking
in
through
the
side
street
bring
the
interest
to
the
parking
through
this
High
Street.
K
Q
A
B
B
I
Up
to
that
point-
and
that
only
is
this
point
right-
I
mean
certainly
if
somebody
wanted
to
in
the
future
dedicated
as
a
right
away.
They
could
do
that
or
they
could
attempt
to
go
through
that
process,
but
I
wouldn't
foresee
it.
It
probably
wouldn't
be
any
good
reason
to
do
that.
I
think
if
there
really
was
any
sort
of
expansion
that
Street
as
that
older
kind
of
retail
center
ages-
and
we
know
they
don't
have
a
long
lifespan.
B
G
So
I
guess
I'm
curious,
I
have
very
much
the
same
feelings
that
I
don't
feel
like
this
green
space
is
gonna,
be
utilized.
It's
basically,
let's
go
sit
out
on
the
parking
strip
and
see
what's
going
on.
It
doesn't
feel
like
it's
big
enough
for
a
draw.
This
seems
like
just
a
parking
lot
to
me.
So
I
guess
I'm
wondering.
Are
you
open
to
expanding
the
green
space
so
that
it
actually
is
something
that
your
residents,
you
know,
could
be
a
little
bit
more
defined
and
more
usable?
N
We've
looked
long
and
hard
as
to
four
other
areas
on
the
ground
level
to
create
congregation
space
and
outdoor
space
in
green
space
because
of
the
zoning
and
heaven
building
pushed
up
to
the
street,
there's
no
other
access
or
areas
to
access
for
public
space
or
for
ground
level
congregation
space.
So
the
answer
is
I.
N
Can't
we
yeah
it's
unless
we
can
get
creative
and
we'll
keep
looking,
but
to
find
a
way
to
keep
the
one
parking
per
unit
and
remember,
there's
300
units
that
are
with
and
being
developed
in
the
area.
Many
of
those
units
are
couples
and
roommates
who
have
multiple
cars.
It's
a
significant
challenge
right
now
to
bring
the
density
in,
build
it
to
the
property
lines
and
park
it
adequately
and
provide
the
Green
congregation
space
that
people
need
so
we're
trying
we're
trying
to
find
that
balance.
So.
G
With
the
idea
that
I
don't
necessarily
think
this
is
a
congregate
in
space,
anybody
will
use
what,
if
for
this
125
feet,
you
build
out
as
you
should,
and
you
still
have
all
your
parking,
but
it's
underground
and
you
get
more
units
and
then,
after
that,
you
make
it
open.
Like
you
have
planned,
you
would
still
save
your
parking.
You'd
meet
the
code
or
you'd
meet
the
ordinance
because
you'd
be
building
to
the
street,
but
you
wouldn't
have
what
you're
considering
an
outdoor
congregating
space.
G
N
Great
that's
correct:
if
we
were
to
build
up,
there
would
be
no
place
to
put
an
outdoor
congri
in
space
and
I'd
also
like
to
say,
and
if
we
were
to
build
another
building
there
we
keep
the
same
amount
of
parking,
but
our
parking
ratio
goes
down
significantly
and
I
know.
That's
not
the
biggest
concern
of
the
group,
but.
G
So
we've
had
other
projects
that
are
over
the
200
feet
and
we
don't.
We
I,
have
seen
other
architectural
elements
instead
of
an
additional
building,
be
utilized
that
break
it
up
visually
so
that
it's
still
one
building.
But
you
have
met
the
intent
of
that
200
foot
line,
and
so
you
have
some
architectural
feature
that
makes
it
look
a
little
different
and
breaks
it
up.
But
it's
not
necessarily
a
third
a
building
understood.
N
G
G
I'm
feeling
that
this
is
just
more
of
an
open
surface
parking
lot
and
I,
don't
know
that
that
serves
our
urban
intent
of
creating
an
urban
environment
and
I
just
am
struggling
to
see
that
space
that
you
have
outlined
there
as
really
useable
as
an
outdoor
green
space.
For
your
tenants,
I,
just
don't
see,
there's
enough
there
or
that
it's
large
enough
or
defined
enough.
G
H
G
Then
should
we
just
meet
the
ordinance
and
build
out,
because
we
really
don't
want
surface
parking
lots
but
I
get
I,
understand
the
relationship
of
adding
more
units
to
them,
having
to
add
more
parking,
but
right
now,
really
all
I
see
is
that
you
just
want
to
service
parking
lot
and
you're
going
to
throw
this
in
there.
But
it's
not
really
feeling
like
it's
meeting
the
objective.
Q
G
Think
that
if
you
are
trying
to
accomplish
an
outdoor
space
for
your
tenants,
will
congregate
I,
don't
really
see
that
as
a
big
enough
or
well-defined
enough.
I
really
feels
like
a
very
extremely
well
landscaped
parking
strip
and
I.
Don't
know
that
that
invites
anybody
out
when
we
talk
about
you
know
our
outdoor
space,
they're,
bigger,
there's,
there's
some
other
things
happening
and
I.
Just
so,
I
need
something
more
than
it's
just
like
hey.
We
put
this
on
the
corner.
G
Q
G
Wondering
would
you
be
open
to
it
not
being
where
the
parking
strip
is
and
it
becomes
an
outdoor
space
right
out
of
the
building,
and
then
you
have
your
parking
or
something
so
that
it's
more
connected,
so
I'm
not
walking
through
a
surface
parking
lot
to
a
parking
strip
where
I
can
just
sit
and
I,
don't
know
what
I
would
do
there
so
making
it
feel
like
it's
actually
connected
to
the
building.
Maybe
are
their
options?
G
Q
I
think
that
we're
open
to
looking
at
those
options,
I
and
and
and
that's
that's
why
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
kind
of
what
the
goals
are,
because
when
we
put
this,
we
located
it
where
we
did
two
in
an
attempt
to
activate
the
the
street
corner.
If
you
will
and
then
also
connect
the
different
developments
not
just
have
a
dedicated
to
our
development,
but
I
think
it's.
G
Q
Q
It
would
be
like
this,
and
so
what
our,
what
our
goal
here
is
to
provide
something
that
would
do
it
in
it.
That
would
activate
that
street
more
than
it
currently
is.
That
would
create
this
impromptu.
You
know
gathering
space,
but
not
a
not
like
a
long
term,
let's
get
together
as
a
community
type
of
thing,
but
like
groups
saying:
oh,
let's,
let's
meet
down
at
whatever
this
we
call.
Q
N
Just
lost
like
that
common
because
I
do
appreciate
it.
The
thought
of
a
glorified
streetscape,
er
or
parking
strip.
I
do
think
that
and
we
do
intend
to
build
it
as
we
show
it,
meaning
with
benches
with
pathways
with
art
in
there
and
with
ornamental
grasses
and
trees,
designed
to
make
it
an
inviting
space.
I
agree
if
it
were
just
a
well
man,
manicured
placed
without
pathways
without
benches,
without
some
elevated
planting
boxes
it
wouldn't
be
all
that
attractive,
I.
N
Think
if
you
build
it
correctly
and
put
the
right
pieces
in
there,
it
does
become
attractive
to
people
and
they
will
go
and
sit.
It
is
a
quiet
corner.
There
is
restaurants
on
the
other
on
the
south
side,
where
people
will
go
and
maybe
come
over
here
and
eat
out
there.
So
it's
I
dis
really
somewhat
that
it's
just
a
nice
parking
strip
with
the
amenities
or
the
architecture,
elements
that
we're
gonna
that
we
plan
to
put
into
it.
N
K
Well,
I
agree
with
Amy
and
I
would
like
to
see
this
expanded,
so
it
sold.
You
know
instead
of
having
a
building
come
to
the
street,
we
have
a
park
come
to
the
street,
and
that
would
mean
on
both
sides
of
the
corner
and
it
doesn't
have
to
take
up
more
than
a
few
parking
spaces
really
really
and
maybe
even
there's
ways
of
making
even
more
of
a
square.
So
there'd
be
more
parking
on
yeah.
It
was
trade-offs.
You
could
make,
maybe
only
lose.
K
You
know
like
seven
or
eight
spaces
in
in
then
you
would
have
the
trade-off
of
actually
having
a
green
corner
where
there's
already
a
bunch
a
stand
of
trees
and
mature
trees
and
so
forth.
So
it
would
seem
to
me
like
that
would
be
instead
of
coming.
Instead
of
having
a
building
on
the
corner,
you
would
have
a
little
pocket
park
on
the
corner
that
would
offer
you
a
great
deal
more
than
eight
parking
spaces.
L
N
I
L
I
R
L
A
L
So
for
staff,
I
mean
I
kind
of
want
to
say,
I
want
to
move
the
project
forward
as
what
might
I'm
trying
figure
how
to
do
this.
We
move
the
project
forward
on
a
condition
that
that
this
has
tried
to
achieve.
Did
they
shorten
the
park,
but
I
understand
that
there's
problems,
because
the
city
has
to
agree
to
additional
parking
and
everything
else.
L
I
want
to
try
this
so
based
on
the
information
in
the
staff
report,
public
testimony
and
discussion
by
the
Planning
Commission
I
move
the
Planning
Commission
approve
plan
development,
PLN,
SUV,
20,
1800
641
and
we're
gonna
apply
with
the
applicable
standards.
The
following
conditions
applied.
You
know
the
parcels
must
be
consulting
to
one
single
parcel.
L
Surface
parking
areas
must
be
set
back
at
least
eight
feet
from
the
property
line
and
a
final
one
that
the
public
space
on
the
southwest
corner
can
be
reconfigured
so
shortened
to
less
than
125
feet
to
accommodate
a
broader,
a
wider
configuration
with
similar
partner
requirements
that
can
be
approved
by
staff.
Whether
that
condition
is
met
that
work,
Paul,
I.
L
And
maintaining
their
current
I
mean
I,
think
I,
think
I
I
will
say
outside
of
my
motion,
but
I
appreciate
with
this
Apple.
Well,
originally
I
was
kind
of
like
why
just
extend
the
building
and
but
I
appreciate.
This
applicants
seems
have
explored
a
lot
of
different
questions
right.
The
parking
question
requirement
that
you're
not
exactly
really
I
mean
you're
close
to
a
track.
Stop,
but
not
really
I
mean
redwood.
Road
makes
its
own
challenges
for
transportation,
for
pedestrians,
sort
of
traffic
and
moving.
L
Certainly-
and
you
know-
and
I
am
not
a
fan
of
the
really
long
buildings
and
that's
been
something
I've
been
in
the
you
guys
have
clearly
not
you
know,
you're
not
asking
for
the
additional
length.
I
do
think
the
reason
the
long
buildings
become
a
problem
is
because
you
end
up
with
a
really
boring
landscape
and
it's
more
about
what
faces
the
street
and
I
can't.
L
So
if
someone
is
gonna
walk
how
it
feels
so,
I
do
think
if
you're
able
to
make
that
a
lot
more
square
things
when
you're
walking
down
Gertie,
you
feel,
like
you,
walk
through
less
parking
lot.
You
know,
you
know.
That's
I
think
the
goal
in
the
intent
what
people
use
it
or
not
I
mean
I,
think
people
somebody
go
out
there,
but
but
the
intent
is
I.
L
Think
from
my
perspective
and
someone
walks
down
the
street,
they
don't
feel
like
they
walk
across
the
parking
lot
to
get
to
the
next
spot
or
they're,
not
walking
through
a
bunch
of
parking
lots
as
they're
moving
to
from
the
apartment,
complex,
two
tracks
and
so
I
think
a
more
square
I
would
agree
with
them
more.
You
know
we
would
meet
that,
but
I
also,
you
know
I
think
you're
right
with
your
parking
is
gonna
be
needed
and
it's
gonna
be.
You
know
you
guys
have
done
a
good
balance.
So
I
appreciate
that.
B
L
L
B
L
J
A
H
G
B
Q
A
N
Q
C
N
N
Q
A
Q
O
A
S
So
this
is
a
development
by
downtown
Salt,
Lake
City
partners.
They
are
representing
the
property
owner
who's
Salt
Lake
City
corporation.
They
have
initiated
petitions
for
a
planned
development
and
for
conditional
building
and
site
design.
This
project
is
two
phases.
The
Commission
approved
phase
1
with
conditions
on
October
10th
2018.
S
What's
before
you
this
evening,
is
for
Phase
two
of
the
request
and
it's
a
development
of
building
B,
which
is
a
five-story
structure
with
over
2,700
square
feet
of
retail
126
mixed
income
units
and
30,000
square
feet
of
office.
Co-Working
space
stuff
is
recommending
condition,
recommending
approval
with
conditions
to
help
orient
you
to
the
site.
I'll
show
some
photos
of
the
property.
These
photos
are
from
for
south
looking
down
Blair
Street,
as
well
as
to
the
east
of
the
property.
S
Looking
down
the
drive
approach
for
the
adjacent
property
to
the
east,
these
are
from
Blair
Street.
The
existing
site
has
a
structure
on
it,
as
well
as
some
surface
parking
areas,
and
then
these
are
some
photos
of
the
existing
mid
Bach,
mid
block
walkway
at
4:50,
south
looking
west
at
the
city
and
county
building,
and
then,
where
its
proposed
to
extend
keeping
the
450
South
alignment
looking
east
and
then
a
view
from
Blair
Street
closer
to
500
south
looking
north.
S
This
is
an
aerial
map,
as
well
as
a
proposed
site
plan.
The
development
has
frontage
on
400,
South
and
Blair
Street
retail
uses
proposed
on
the
ground
floor
of
400
South,
as
well
as
Blair
Street
and
residential
Lobby
and
parking
are
also
proposed
along
Blair
Street.
The
parking
would
have
access
off
of
Blair
Street
and
the
upper
floors
of
the
building
have
residential
units
in
office.
The
building
has
a
height
of
approximately
57
feet.
Exterior
materials
include
glass,
aluminum,
composite
panel
and
metal
mesh
screening.
S
This
slide
is
just
to
discuss
a
little
bit
about
what
could
be
developed
on
the
property
if
they
just
met
the
underlying
zoning
requirements,
the
project
would
have
to
have
active
ground-floor
use
along
60%
of
Blair
street
frontage
for
a
depth
of
25
feet
and
the
building
facade
along
Blair.
She
would
have
to
meet
all
the
design
standards
related
to
glazing
and
provide
pedestrian
entrances
every
40
feet.
Any
surface
parking
areas
would
have
to
meet
landscaping
and
screening
requirements.
S
With
the
parcel
link
length
of
approximately
390
feet,
more
than
one
building
could
be
constructed
on
the
site,
with
a
maximum
facade
length
of
200
feet.
If
multiple
buildings
were
constructed
on
the
parcel,
a
20
foot
wide
separation
between
buildings
would
be
required.
It's
important
to
note
that
one
of
the
reasons
why
the
450
South
alignment
of
the
mid-block
walkway
is
important
is
because
it
generally
follows
parcel
lines,
so
it
increases
the
potential
to
maintain
that
corridor
as
those
Eastern
properties
are
redeveloped
in
the
walkways
extended
East.
It's
also
important
to
note.
S
S
There's
not
any
parking
required
with
this
development,
however,
minimal
parking
has
been
required
or
has
been
provided.
They
are
well
below
the
maximum
parking
requirements
because
of
the
narrow
width
of
the
site.
If
the
development
were
required
to
meet
all
of
the
parking
areas,
all
of
the
zoning
requirements,
the
parking
area
and
circulation
of
the
site
would
need
to
be
modified
significantly
and
parking
spaces
would
need
to
be
eliminated.
S
The
zoning
district
permits
a
height
up
to
90
feet
with
the
potential
for
additional
height
of
one-story
equal
to
the
average
height
of
other
stories
in
the
building
the
proposals
for
a
building
height
of
approximately
57
feet.
Although
the
development
could
be
built
to
a
taller
height,
this
site
is
identified
within
the
East
downtown
view
protection
area.
So
the
proposal
is
consistent
with
master
plan
policies
to
protect
a
view,
corridors
vistas
and
focal
points
in
the
downtown
area.
S
Such
as
the
city
and
county
building,
through
the
plan
development
process,
the
applicants
proposing
to
modify
regulations
related
to
landscaping
and
screening
of
surface
parking
lots
in
the
core
area
of
the
TSA
zone
and
parking
lot
landscaping
requirements
in
the
landscaping
chapter
and
those
relate
to
perimeter
parking
lot
landscaping,
as
well
as
an
interior
interior
parking
lot.
Landscaping
and
staff
has
provided
some
analysis
and
findings
on
that
request.
S
In
attachment
F
of
your
staff
report
and
through
your
conditional
building
and
site
design,
the
applicant
is
requesting
modification
of
some
of
the
design
standards
they're,
requesting
modification
to
the
active
ground
floor,
use
and
visual
interest
requirements.
The
requesting
modification
to
ground
floor
glass,
the
distance
between
building
entrances,
the
maximum
length
of
a
blank
wall,
maximum
length
of
a
street
facing
facade
and
a
parking
structure
along
the
street.
That's
not
wrapped
in
habitable
space.
S
S
The
first
time
the
project
came
before
the
Planning
Commission
was
for
a
work
session
on
September
12th
minutes
from
that
work
session,
as
well
as
an
informal
summary
that
was
prepared
by
staff
is
also
included
in
attachment
e.
Following
the
work
session,
the
following
revisions
were
made
to
the
proposal
when
the
project
was
presented.
At
that
time,
the
applicant
was
exploring
options
for
a
mid
block
walkway
to
the
south
of
the
development
on
an
adjacent
parcel.
That's
not
part
of
their
development
site.
S
The
development
of
that
would
require
the
police
department
to
vacate
or
reconfigure
their
existing
parking
lot
and
that's
not
something
they're
willing
to
agree
to.
At
this
time,
the
mid-block
walkway
has
been
proposed
into
the
ground
level
of
the
parking
garage
of
the
building
and
maintains
the
450
South
alignment
of
the
walkway,
the
height
of
the
ceiling
above
the
walkway,
is
approximately
eight
feet
and
the
walkway
is
approximately
sixteen
feet
wide.
S
During
the
work
session.
There
was
also
some
discussion
regarding
the
South
elevation
of
the
building
and
how
the
improvements
to
the
design
of
the
self
sell
facade
with
helped
the
building
be
more
oriented
towards
the
mid-block
walkway,
which,
as
I
just
discussed,
was
initially
envisioned
to
the
south.
On
an
adjacent
parcel.
The
applicant
has
revised
the
design
of
the
South
elevation
to
include
a
mural
with
the
addition
of
that
mural
they
removed
the
one
that
was
initially
proposed.
That's
shown
there
on
the
left
as
because
the
South
elevation
isn't
adjacent
to
a
public
street.
S
Staff
has
provided
analysis
and
findings
on
the
requested
modifications
as
they
relate
to
the
intent
of
the
design
standards
and
finds
that,
with
recommended
conditions
of
approval,
that
the
modifications
meet
the
intent
of
the
design
standards.
The
recommended
conditions
of
approval
mostly
relate
to
screening
of
parking
areas,
the
gating
material
for
the
mid-block
walkway,
which
would
essentially
become
a
facade
element
until
the
time
that
that
walkway
is
open
and
more
refinement
on
the
details
for
visual
interaction
and
interest
along
layer
street.
S
As
analyzed
in
the
staff
report
in
attachment,
I
staff
finds
the
requested
modifications
to
the
parking
lot
landscaping
meet.
The
standards
of
approval
and
the
proposed
development
meets
several
goals
and
policies
of
associated
master
plans
and
again
Safa
is
recommending
approval
with
conditions,
as
listed
in
the
staff
report,
and
we
do
have
representatives
from
the
development
team
here,
as
well
as
a
representative
from
housing
and
neighborhood
development.
Who
is
the
lead
for
the
city
on
this
proposal?.
S
It's
these
areas
that
are
highlighted
in
I
guess
it's
like
a
pinkish
purple
up
there,
so
the
interior
parking
lot
landscaping
requires
that
5%
of
that
be
landscaped,
which
they
technically
meet
the
five
percent,
because
five
percent
of
their
land
or
of
their
parking
lot
area
would
be
452
square
feet,
but
they're
proposing
573
the
thing
that
they're
not
meeting
not
strictly
meeting.
That's
a
requirement
is
that
each
landscaped
area,
so
they
would
technically
be
required
to
have
like
a
median
type
of
a
thing
in
there.
S
D
S
K
A
M
Thanks
for
seeing
us
again,
you
guys
have
seen
the
project
before
every
time
I
see
it.
I'm
I
like
it,
which
is
good
if
you're
about
to
build
it,
I
think
for
the
purposes
of
the
TSA
zone.
If
you
were
to
kind
of
just
close
your
eyes
and
imagine
that
meaningfully
mixed-use
building
that
had
several
different
levels
of
incomes
in
it,
that
hid
all
of
its
parking,
most
of
which
under
building
actually
had
a
very
little
parking
ratio
and
it
was
able
to
be
developed
on
a
tiny
site,
or
at
least
a
tiny
width
site.
M
M
So
from
this
angle,
you'd
see
to
the
curve,
and
it
would
be
less
than
200
feet.
If
you
were
to
look
at
it
from
the
the
people's
way
elevation.
The
most
you
could
see
would
be
less
than
200
feet,
and
if
you
were
to
look
at
this
from
the
South
elevation,
you
would
only
see
less
than
200
feet.
So,
as
was
noted
in
a
prior
applicants
proposal,
we've
really
tried
to
go
ahead
and
mitigate
the
feeling
of
a
large
building.
M
I,
don't
think
that
will
be
the
experience
of
this
really
from
any
angle
and
really
tried
to
maximize
the
people's
principal
experience
of
this
building,
which
will
probably
be
on
400
South
as
to
the
landscaping
requirements
toward
the
back.
We
didn't
want
any
surface
parking,
lots
that
were
visible
from
the
street
and
so
to
get
the
parking
ratio
which
is
very
low
as
it
is.
We
went
ahead
and
put
that
parking
all
the
way
back
to
the
back
lot.
M
It
should
be
noted
that
what
you're
a
budding
to
behind
you
is
a
parking
lot
that
actually
has
a
small
landscape
buffer
in
most
places.
So
there
often
is
a
buffer
that
exists,
even
though
it's
not
on
our
parcel
and
then
pretty
much
anything.
We're
touching
that
doesn't
have
a
landscape
buffer
is
hard
concrete
on
the
other
side
of
it,
often
behind
a
multi-story
parking
deck.
M
So
this
this
is
not
going
to
be
an
area
that's
trafficked
anytime
soon
and
to
the
extent
that
it
would
be
trafficked
ever,
it
would
be
required
to
have
a
mid
block
going
through
it,
which
would
have
its
own
landscaping
requirements.
So
I
don't
think
that
it's
unusual
to
have
this
be
a
place
that
isn't
heavily
green
I,
don't
know
how
the
plants
would
survive
anyway,
amongst
all
of
that
building,
yeah.
R
So,
just
to
run
you
through
this
diagram
we
put
together
for
Amy,
they
Jason
Bank
has
their
their
parking
median
here,
which
is
grass.
The
lighter
green
is
what
we
are
providing
that's
outside
again
of
our
building
line,
which
is
here
in
white.
That's
the
building
line
the
this
darker
areas
out
from
under
the
building.
This
would
be
a
the
eventual
mid
block
walk
extending
through.
R
Should
this
parking
deck
ever
go
away,
there's
actually
also
a
parking
deck
here
directly
on
the
property
line
which
we're
buffering
ourselves
just
so
these
cars
can
can
open
and
again
we
have
the
the
police
departments
parking
buffer
here,
where
we
were
trying
to
work
on
getting
the
mid
block
to
go
outside.
So
do
you
guys
have
specific
questions
on
this
issue
because
it's
one
of
them
and
then
we
can
maybe
run
through
our
fuller,
the
deck
that
I
had
on
the
other
file.
G
R
R
In
the
other
file
that
I
can
share
this
specific.
To
that
this
one
was
just
to
talk
about
the
landscape
means.
Are
there
specific
ones?
Basically,
this
shows
that
we
have
this
roughly
hundred
feet
that
we
do
have
an
architectural
offence
here,
it's
not
like
chain-link,
it's
designed
slotted
fence
that
has
some
movement
to
it
and
that's
going
to
be
the
buffer.
At
that
point,
and
again
it's
it's
us
trying
to
squeeze
in
parking
as
much
as
we
can
for
this.
For
this
use.
R
So
to
answer
your
questions,
let
me
go
to
those
slides
on
this
file
again
to
speak
to
what
what
Chris
was
speaking
to.
We
basically
have
three
different
buildings.
If
you
will,
where
the
facade
sort
of
bleeds,
as
you
go
south
on
the
project
and
the
building
itself
goes
from,
is
sort
of
regulated,
vertical
glazing
to
dancing
windows
and
the
building
itself
starts
to
push
west
or
sorry
east,
and
we
can
come
back
to
all
of
these.
If
you
have
questions
so
we'll
skip
forward
to
the
mid
block.
R
Those
gates
would
open
when
people
needed
to
drive
through
you
fast
forward
to
so
here's
a
bigger
plan
of
that
automated
gates
would
be
here,
and
here
there'd
be
two
of
them
and
the
way
the
circulation
works
is
that
you
would
basically
circulate
through
this
way,
and
those
people
that
are
parking
here
would
circulate
across.
Only
at
this
one
point,
where's.
G
G
R
You
go:
here's
here's
our
drive,
so
we
we
had.
We
had
discussed
with
planning
about
having
the
mid
block,
be
here
where
the
actual
drive
is,
and
these
kind
of
comments
I
think
came
up
of
it
being
shared
as
a
driveway
in
the
mid
block,
which
kind
of
doesn't
make
sense
so
being
here
on
access.
Also
now
coming
through
our
sort
of
little
parklet
that
we
have
in
front
of
our
building
it
sort
of
becomes
that
eventual
extension
of
the
full
mid
block.
Okay,.
R
M
It's
neither
here
nor
there,
but
I
should
mention
that
I
haven't
quite
given
up
on
the
South
Park
lights.
For
my
understanding,
the
the
police
department
didn't
say:
no,
they
said
no
right
now.
They
would
be
interested
in
allowing
that
to
be
a
bar
clip,
but
didn't
want
it
to
be
until
such
time
as
the
other
block
was
ready
to
go
so
and
I'd
love
a
scenario
actually
where
that
is
the
the
true
mid
block.
Walkway
I
think
we
have
a
lot
more
space
to
play
with
it's
open.
It's
inviting
given
that.
A
M
They
would
make
a
requirement
that
it
not
be
changed
until
such
time
as
the
other
lot
is
change
ready
to
receive
it.
We
will
provide
something
in
the
case
that
that
never
happens
is
kind
of
our
thinking
here.
But
my
personal
hope
is
that
we'll
have
a
big,
a
big
fat
park
on
the
south
of
this
at
some
point,
but
until
then
we're
we're
complying
with
the
code.
B
R
R
B
R
R
C
R
R
B
Think
it's
super
innovative
and
I
quite
like
it,
and
you
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
pedestrians
are
safe
and
feel
safe
going
through
through
there,
but
I'm.
Incredibly
appreciative
that
you're
holding
that
as
a
placeholder,
because
I
think
it'll
be
so
valuable
in
the
long
run
and
and
the
that
forward-thinking
is
great.
So
I'm
super
thrilled
that
you
added
that
will.
R
Likely
do
some
os
any
planting
stuff
in
there
for
the
interim
law,
it's
sort
of
just
a
spot
to
sit.
You
know,
so
we
have
a
similar
condition
in
a
building
in
New
Orleans,
where
our
injured
start
building
is
actually
worth
it.
Let's
say
the
easternmost
point
of
this
walkway
would
be
you
actually
and
I
walk
under
the
billion
to
get
to
the
insurance
since
a
big
public
kind
of
area
that
you
can
actually
sit
into
so.
R
Sqdm
is
ripple
the
architects
we
all
came
here,
they're,
very
much
aware
of
the
library,
the
public
safety
being
sort
of
a
you
know,
aggressive
pieces
of
architecture,
EDRs,
typically
aggressive
as
architect
as
well.
They
were
very
interested
in
this
bar
building.
It
was
an
at
one
point
there
near
RFP
us
an
l-shaped
building,
and
then
we
thought
it
was
more
dynamic
and
softer
to
do
this
is
the
l-shaped
building
was
sort
of
a
bar
and
I
just
turned.
R
L
R
M
R
Slide
is
a
little
vignette
that
explains
sort
of
the
let's
call
it
the
commercial
bleed
into
the
residential
and
the
approach
to
the
glazing,
I'm,
the
material
so
residential,
which
is
sort
of
on
the
south
side.
Here
you
have
this
corrugated
panel
and
which
makes
the
residential
window
read
differently
than
the
the
co-working
space.
R
We
are
we
plan
to
discuss
them
with
Amy
tomorrow
over
here
and
then
continue
to
work
on
them.
I
believe
you
know
in
our
mine
and
speaking
to
what
what
Chris
was
mentioning.
You
know
we
had
removed
that
lenticular
mural
in
favor
of
thinking
that
we
would
eventually
have
some
park
here
and
providing
a
mural
here.
In
our
opinion,
this.
R
This
is
you
have
essentially
this
this
protrusion
of
the
building
entrance,
the
little
cut
for
the
mid
block,
but
we
had
proposed
like
she
was
mentioning
to
activate
this
with
a
lenticular
type
mural,
which
would
only
be
discernible
from
that.
That
much
saw
that
southern
point
of
the
building,
feeling
that
these
these
materials
alternate
and
then
it's
also
stepping
back
I
felt
that
that
was
active
enough
and
we
moved
that
mural
to
the
South
back.
R
We're
thinking
that
the
mid
block
would
be
there
to
us,
it's
more
advantageous
to
have
a
mural
there
anyways,
but
you
know
we'll
work
on
that.
One
with
them,
I
think
the
only
other
one
was
there
was
a
recommendation
for
us
to
provide
a
three-foot
knee
wall
at
the
parking
which,
what's
sort
of
not
discernible
here.
Is
that
behind
that
screen?
C
A
A
K
R
K
Okay,
thank
you
and
I
am
concerned
that
this
will
actually-
and
this
is
really
kind
of
a
different
concern
that
this
will
actually
appear
flatter.
Then
your
then
your
West
elevation
shows
because
you've
got
the
shadows
coming,
as
is
often
the
case
in
architectural
drawings,
as
if
we
all
had
the
Sun
in
the
north,
so
so
the
shadows
I
want
to
tell
you
that
this
is
not.
This
is
not
unusual.
This
happens
all
the
time.
It's
not
even
not
intentional.
K
Sometimes
that
makes
the
drawing
look
better
to
have
things
go
this
way,
then
that
way,
I
don't
know
why,
but,
but
it
is,
it
can
fool
the
eye
into
thinking
that
there
are
that
the
shadow
would
make
this
a
lot
more,
have
a
lot
more
three-dimensional
play
than
they
actually
will,
because
the
lights
going
to
be
coming
from
the
other
direction
and
will
not
give
you
as
much
play
as
you
think
so.
We're.
R
Proposing
sort
of
a
there's,
it's
very
thin,
soffit
above
the
screen,
there's
an
image
of
it
that
we're
proposing
to
install
LED
lighting
that
could
be
washing
this
screen,
so
that
would
be
giving
it
light
from
both
the
front
and
then
then
you'd
have
the
interior
building
lighting.
What
that
image
on
the
left
doesn't
really
represent
is,
as
I
mentioned,
there's
some
solid
surface
behind
the
screen
along
most
of
it
as
well.
So
you
will,
you
won't,
really
read
the
cars
behind
it,
except
for
at
those
first,
two
northernmost
stalls,
six.
R
C
K
The
facade
itself,
though,
in
the
and
they
and
the
push
and
pull
of
it,
it's
not
really
much
any
push-pull.
It's
almost
like
push,
so
is
there?
Is
there
some
kind
of
rendering
of
this?
Do
you
have
a
rendering
somewhere
that
actually
shows
shadows
as
it's
really
as
they
are
really
going
to
be
happening?
We.
R
K
K
R
K
Be
much
flatter
looking
than
this
shows
like
I
said
this
is
not
unusual,
not
you
know
not
a
not
killer,
but,
for
example,
even
on
the
building
section
of
the
front,
where
they're
showing
again
the
number
one
is
correct.
On
the
of
the
of
these
guys
number
one
is
the
correct
way
to
show
it,
but
the
actual
building
elevation
is
showing
the
Sun
coming
from
the
north,
and
that
makes
a
difference
because
it
does
actually
not
give
you
that
deep
you're
wanting.
K
S
K
G
C
K
K
C
S
It
it's
not
really
clear
in
in
their
design
how
like
how
the
blank
wall
is
going
to
be
integrated,
I
guess
into
that
screen
like
where
those
mechanical
areas-
and
they
have
some
doors
in
those
areas
too.
So
we're
just
asking
for
a
little
bit
more
detail.
It
wasn't
clear
to
me
that
those
stalls
would
be
blocked
by
a
wall,
so
that
was
part
of
the
reason
why
we
requested
the
new
wall
is
a
condition
of
approval,
but
that's
something
that
we
can
work
out
the
details
with.
S
C
S
C
S
In
most
of
those
areas
that
looks
like
that
from
the
rendering
that
the
screen
mesh
comes
all
the
way
down
to
the
ground,
and
so
it
might
be
nice
to
have
some
type
of
solid
foundation
just
to
kind
of
make
that
design
element
a
little
bit
more
clear
and
also
screen
headlights
from
the
public
way.
But
if
those
areas
are
blank
wall
behind
there,
that
may
be
different
and
that's
not
something
that
is
clear
in
the
plans
I've
been
provided
to
us.
C
G
K
Every
location
I
would
take
that
condition
out,
just
because
I
think
that
a
knee
wall
is
not
in
the
vocabulary
of
that
part
of
the
building
and
I
think
that
that
actually
would
would
what
would
really
be
nice.
There
is
a
very
smooth
surface,
all
the
way
to
the
ground
and
also
when
it
is
lit
from
time
to
time
when
people
pass
by
it,
you
know
having
it
lit.
All
the
way
to
the
ground
would
would
be
more
dramatic,
so
I
would
take
that
knee
wall
out
entirely.
We.
C
S
Looked
at
several
places
just
to
try
and
get
an
idea
of
some
design
standards
related
to
screening
because
we
have
requirements.
You
know
that
parking
areas
be
screened,
but
we
don't
really
have
specific
requirements
as
far
as
you
know
how
they're
screened,
and
so
that
that's
just
something
that
was
a
common
standard
that
we
found
related
to
floodlights
into
the
public
way
it
can
disorient
pedestrians
etc.
So
that's
why
we
included
that
and.
R
R
A
L
So
one
I
will
save
from
my
own
kind
of
I'm
a
little
disappointed
that
the
center
of
Blake
Blair
and
people's
away
like
doesn't
have
any
reason
to
go
to
and
that
block
I
think
I.
Think
it's
cool.
What's
happened
to
pull
block
I
would
love
to,
but
there's
nothing
really
to
pass
through
that
whole
Blair
street
or
them
people's
way,
unless
you're
walking
from
one
place
to
another
and
that's
a
little
bit
disappointing,
but
I'm
super
preciate
of
the
design
you
guys
have
done
for
the
project
and
the
affordable
housing
component.
This
was
Bolton.
L
The
parking
lot
landscaping
requirements
list
in
the
football
sections
of
code,
with
the
conditions
of
approval
listed
in
the
staff
report,
with
the
exception
of
them
three
foot
solid
knee
wall
should
be
provided
along
all
ground
level,
parking
to
screen
headlights
that
can
be
removed
or
delegated
to
staff.
If
the
current
designs
of
the
building
meet
the
intent
of
Public
Safety
and
of
the
public
of
Public,
Safety
and
other
kind
of
common
design
practices
and
the
following,
the
final
prove
all
the
details
to
be
in
a
delegate
to
planning
staff.
B
L
L
L
K
L
K
L
K
L
I
can
I
can
take
a
few
minutes
and
work
through
one
by
one,
so
the
Blair
street
parking
garage,
West
elevation,
we've
because
essentially
delegated
the
three
foot
knee
wall
to
if
it's
needed
or
not
staff
can
make
that
decision
to
remove
entirely
as
their
own
and
they're.
Okay
with
that,
but
the
rest
of
the
design
detail
and
we
all
kind
of
are
good
with
number
two.
L
Your
cement
details
regarding
screen
material
applicants
knees
fine
with
getting
more
detail
about
the
screening
stuff
I'll
go
with
more
details,
more
details,
always
better
you
Stella,
vation,
Jason,
Blair
Street
shall
be
all
this
is
a
mural.
This
is
number
three
we're
talking
about.
I'm
sure
we
double
lenticular
mural.
Let's
present
the
work
session
modification
is
sixty
percent
of
the
West.
L
Mean
my
personal
impression
is:
if
you're
coming
on
Blair
Street
walking
north,
whether
the
mural
is
on
the
south
side,
as
presented
with
the
woman
on
the
turtle
or
the
other
one
where
you
can't
really
see
if
it
helps
articulate
the
building
design
a
little
bit.
I
still
feel
like
that's
visually
interesting,
broadly
and
with
the
way
that's
structured,
I,
don't
think
the
murals
can
be
covered
up
on
the
turtle.
I
don't
have
an
opinion
on
which
design
is
planning
until
anyone
else
in
the
planet
couldn't
have
I
really.
S
R
R
S
So
how
that
facade
would
relate
to
the
walkway
now
that
walkways
not
proposed
they're,
the
South
elevation
isn't
subject
to
any
design
standards.
It's
not
adjacent
to
a
public
street,
it's
actually
right
at
the
property
line,
and
if
the
South
property
were
to
redevelop
and
unfortunately
say,
let's
say
worst
case
scenario-
they
didn't
allow
the
parklet
like
we
had
hoped
they.
They
also
may
not
have
a
setback
requirement
there,
and
so
it
could
be
built
you.
We
may
not
ever
see
the
girl
on
the
turtle,
but
the
West
elevation.
S
They
are
requesting
several
design
modifications
and
one
of
those
is
related
to
active
use,
and
so,
although
they're
not
requesting
a
modification
to
the
visual
interest
in
staffs
opinion,
we
think
that
that
should
be
more
visually
activated
if
they're
proposing
non
active
uses
along
that
facade.
So
that
is
the
reason
why
we
requested
that
that
be
a
condition
of
approval
that
they
add
in
this.
R
And
just
just
to
be
honest
to
our
opinion
on
the
lenticular
mural,
even
with
with
what's
shown
there
and
talking
to
our
architect,
was
that
if
it
were
to
be
a
lenticular,
we
probably
do
some
sort
of
chromatic
color.
Would
it
because
you
can't
you
want
to
be
able
to
discern
a
like
very
graphic
things
splayed
across
it's
gonna
be
like
a
hundred
feet
of
slivers
of
wood.
A
C
R
L
Let's
go
back
to
mine,
then
I'm
gonna
leave
I'm
gonna
leave
the
mural
in
delegate
to
staff
objectives,
make
a
decision
that
fits
visual
interest
of
the
building
along
Blair.
That's
the
pole,
I'll
research,
the
holding
for
visitor
interaction
along
Blair
Street
people
seem
to
be
ragda
with
visual
interaction,
public
art,
interactive
lighting,
public
easement
development,
roof
I've
recorded,
yes,
actually
like
the
mid-block
walk
lake
coming
off
of
the
public
safety,
walkway
I.
L
L
You
know
with
the
conditions
list
in
the
staff
report,
with
the
exception
of
on
one
bullet
point
regarding
the
knee
wall,
that
that
requirement
be
removed,
delegate
to
staff
just
to
make
sure
that
the
public
safety
is
maintained
as
people
move
in
on
the
parking
garage
and
that
number
I
would
agree
to
do
it.
Oh
and
that
number
three
condition
number
three
is
modified
just
so
there
is
a
mural
of
some
kind
along
along
the
building
that
provides
visual
interest
as
people
come
from
the
south
to
the
north
along
Blair.
D
L
K
A
M
C
B
I
was
a
little
hesitant
on
this
project
last
time
and
I
I,
don't
maybe
I'm
in
a
better
mood
tonight,
but
I
think
it's
I
think
it
looks.
I
think
it
looks
really
good
and
I
think
this
is
proof
why
work
sessions
are
so
helpful
to
come
and
have
a
discussion
about
it
and
to
go
back
and
do
some
modifications
and
I
think
you
really
listen.
The
excited
about
the
walkway
I
think
that's
actually
really
cool
I.
Think
it's
a
cool
building.
Thank
you
for
your
work.
So
yes,
I,
like.