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A
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C
I
think
that
we
are
moving
in
a
good
direction
as
a
city,
you
know,
while
we
usually
will
have
a
retreading
retreat
to
talk
about
issues,
we're
going
to
do
that
later
this
year
than
usual,
because
I
do
want
to
wait
until
the
district
4
seat
is
filled
before
we
do
that,
but
but
the
recommendation
that
I'm
going
to
be
making
is
that
we
don't
change
the
council
priorities
that
we
continue
moving
forward
with
those
key
priorities.
If
there
are
issues
that
we
do
want
to
bring
up
as
a
council,
we
can
do
that.
C
But
you
know
when
we,
when
we
look
at
infrastructure,
when
we
look
at
housing,
those
issues
are
going
to
continue
and
so
I
don't
think
that
there's
you
know
a
great
necessity
to
to
change
that
direction.
At
this
point,
you
know,
as
always,
as
a
council,
we
need
to
be
nimble.
We
need
to
be
able
to
take
on
key
issues
as
they
arise.
This
will
continue,
as
always.
So
thank
you
all
look
forward
to
working
with
you
and
continuing
moving
things
forward.
Thank.
E
A
D
D
A
A
So
we'll
just
stay
the
course
for
the
rest
of
today
and
I
I
just
want
to
thank
you
all
for
the
teamwork
that
goes
in
to
the
work
we
do
and
the
teamwork
that
went
into
the
last
year.
It
was
my
incredible
honor
to
be
the
chair,
so
we're
on
to
item
a2
asset
naming
proposal
for
Ty's
garden
and
his
hidden
Hollow
Natural,
Area
Brian
Fullmer
of
our
council
staff
is
here
to
brief
us
on
that
and
I
know.
Lois
Cogan
is
in
the
audience.
Thank
you
for
coming
up
Lewis
from
trails
and
natural
lands.
G
This
is
considered
a
major
asset,
even
though
it's
a
very
small
piece
of
land
any
and
that
the
city
owns
for
naming
purposes
is
considered
a
major
asset.
The
code
city
code
states
that
the
administration
gives
the
City
Council
15
business
days
to
respond
to
a
proposal,
and
if
the
council
does
not
respond
within
that
time,
then
the
administration
can
go
ahead
with
a
naming
process.
G
The
code
also
says
that
the
city
council
is
responsible
for
all
major
asset
naming
so
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
disconnect
there.
One
of
the
questions
that
we're
hoping
to
get
answered
is
whether
the
council
would
like
to
first
of
all
proceed
using
its
legislative
authority
through
a
resolution
to
name
this
piece
of
land.
Potentially
and
second
of
all,
if
the
council
is
interested
in
having
the
administrator
or
the
attorney's
office,
rather
draft
some
clarifying
language
to
the
that
section
of
code
just
to
clean
it
up
and
make
it
so
more
clear.
H
Thank
you
very
much
and
good
afternoon
Council,
madam
chair
I
I.
Don't
have
a
very
long
presentation
for
you
on
this
item,
but
I
I,
don't
know
if
any
of
you
had
that
had
the
pleasure
of
knowing
the
late
dr.
ty
Harrison,
but
he
he
really
was.
He
was
an
incredible
person
and
in
my
short
time,
at
the
city
he
was
a
tremendous
proponent
of
natural
lands,
especially
natural
lands
in
Salt,
Lake
City,
and
not
only.
H
He
was
involved
in
the
Hidden
Hollow
Natural
Area
from
the
very
GetGo,
with
kids
organized
for
the
protection
of
the
environment
in
the
early
90s
or
mid
90s,
and
he
performed
the
initial
ecological
assessment
of
hidden
hollow
in
the
in
the
late.
90S
was
involved
in
the
master
plan
and
and
then
over
the
next
20
years.
H
Maned
very
involved
there,
with
with
with
all
of
the
volunteers
and
community
members
who
continue
to
support
that
that
small
but
important,
Natural
Area
with
their
time
and
effort
and
tie
ties,
was
he
provided.
He
was.
He
was
a
constant
source
of
information
of
advice
to
the
the
trails
in
natural
land.
Well
was
then
the
open
space
program
and
virtually
every
Natural
Area
that
we
have
engaged
any
kind
of
a
restoration
effort
around
the
city
type
provided
invaluable
information
to
us.
H
Utah,
open
lands
came
to
us
about
this
time
last
year
with
the
proposal
to
to
name
this
area
after
after
dr.
ty
Harrison,
and
they
felt
like
this
would
be
a
very
appropriate
location.
It
was
that
basically
hit
that
the
last
location
in
Salt
Lake
City
or
in
the
Salt
Lake
Valley,
where
he
was
really
putting
a
lot
of
his
time
and
effort
and
energy
working
on
a
small
native
forest
restoration
project
with
the
community
and
I
know
he
was.
He
was
very
attached
to
this
project.
H
A
A
B
A
B
B
I
A
I
think
that
you
know
we're
not
making
a
motion.
Well,
we
can't
make
take
a
vote
in
a
work
session
so
but
I
think
if
it
isn't
too
much
trouble
for
our
staff
to
add
a
public
hearing,
maybe
some
of
the
community
in
the
Westminster
community
might
want
appreciate
the
chance
to
come
out
and
say
something
about
dr.
Harrison
staff.
Would
that
be
reasonable
for
us
to
ask
to
add
and
it
wouldn't
slow
down
the
process
of
adoption?
We
didn't.
A
With
you
councilmember
Fowler,
yes,
okay,
then,
if
there
isn't
any
other
discussion,
then
it
sounds
like
we've
got
direction
on
going
through
the
legislative
process
holding
public
hearing
that
night,
we'll
set
the
date
tonight
and
the
last
remaining
question.
Council
members
is
whether
or
not
we
want
to
ask
the
attorney's
office
to
Claire
by
some
amendment
to
chapter
3.65
of
Salt
Lake
City
code
about
that.
B
Ambiguity
yeah
madam
chair,
if
I
may
again,
I
was
looking
at
this
and
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
clear
that
up.
Considering
that,
as
Brian
pointed
out,
we
didn't
have
a
council
meeting
within
those
15
days
and
I
think
just
kind
of
given
that
time
constraint.
Maybe
we
can
clear
that
up
a
little
bit,
I
think.
A
Also
that
I
do
like
a
legislative
process
for
naming
of
major
city
assets
and
don't
want
there
to
be
ambiguity
about
that.
There's
a
really
fabulous
bridge
over
there
in
district
2
that
needs
the
name
and
I've
got
my
eyes
on
so
strawpoll.
Could
we
strawpoll
amy's
motion
for
clarification
on
three
point?
Six,
five,
all
right
all
I've
got
five
five
thumbs-up
counts
of
remember:
John,
okay,
I've
got
six
thumbs
up
and
that's
all
of
us
actually,
no
one's
absent
anything.
A
And
Lois,
thank
you
for
your
work
on
this
and
we'll
be
seeing
you
in
just
a
second.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
We're
on
to
item
a3,
our
demolition
of
dangerous
are
boarded
buildings.
We
have
nicked
our
bit
from
the
council
staff,
our
policy
analyst
and
orient
Gough
our
building
official
community
and
neighborhoods.
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
For
being
with
us,
Nick,
hey,
Orion,
hello,.
J
G
It's
okay
with
you,
we'll
just
let
Orion
get
into
this.
This
is
an
item
that
we
put
on.
They
were
kind
of.
The
administration
was
kind
enough
to
be
able
to
help
us
put
this
on
quickly
without
any
council
staff
review
we're
here
to
help
with
questions
follow-up.
Anything
comes
out
of
the
briefing
we
can
help,
what
they
go
in
forward.
J
Of
course,
to
anybody
in
construction,
demolition
is
an
exciting
thing
right.
You
know.
Over
the
years
we
haven't
really
done
much
with
the
demolition
ordinance
since
2012
and
over
those
years,
some
of
the
things
that
were
implemented
in
2012,
we've
gotten
good
feedback
on
from
citizens,
from
council
members
and
from
even
city
staff,
and
now
it's
affected
their
jobs.
So
we've
spent
about
a
year
with
the
attorney's
office
and
with
Greg
for
my
staff
and
my
Cree
Bert,
my
boss,
discussing
the
changes.
J
It
includes
boarding
if
they're
no
longer
habitable
in
a
lot
of
times,
that's
distressing
because
then
you
know
they're
going
to
be
taken
out
of
the
housing
stock
for
the
city
and
and
that's
important
as
well,
and
then
also,
if
they're,
not
maintained,
bordered
property,
then
you're
going
to
have
all
kinds
of
other
nuisance
type
issues.
So
the
new
ordinance
gives
us
some
tools
and
some
clarity
on
at
what
point
a
building
gets
to
the
point
where
it
needs
to
be
boarded,
secured
and
also
at
what
point
that
it
most
likely
needs
to
be.
J
A
J
E
J
Only
real
change
to
the
hab
board
is
is
that
the
hab
board
is
going
to
here
and
a
sudden
decide
appeals
from
the
new
language
in
in
title,
48,
1848
and
and
previously
that
that
wasn't
their
main
job.
It
was
just
to
conduct
whatever
hearings
we
had
on
buildings
that
were
where
people
were
appealing
issues
that
made
them
substandard
issues.
J
J
Good
question:
a
couple
of
things
that
we've
had
a
lot
of
issues
with
are
slowing
down
the
process
for
property
owners
to
move
forward
with
demolitions.
The
current
ordinance
requires
you
to
have
a
permit
for
replacement
use
before
you're
allowed
to
do
the
demolition,
and
so
that
discouraged
a
lot
of
people
from
moving
forward
on
commercial
properties.
J
You
were
allowed
to
post
bond
for
the
map.
It
would
cost
a
landscape
the
vacant
lot.
If
you
didn't
proceed
with
your
project,
and
so
we
found
ourselves
to
the
position
of
tracking
these
bonds
and
then
at
some
point
in
time
determining
what
landscaping
was
gonna
be
required
and
then
possibly
taking
the
bond
and
landscaping
a
vacant
lot.
So.
I
J
Yeah
this
this
discussion
will
almost
always
get
to
the
real
basic
meat
of
this
subject,
which
is,
would
you
rather
have
a
vacant
lot,
or
would
you
rather
have
a
nuisance
property
in
a
neighborhood,
and
the
previous
council
debated
that
strongly
for
for
a
long
time
and
I
know
from
my
discussions
with
the
police
department
in
the
fire
department
that
those
two
groups
would
definitely
rather
have
a
vacant
lot.
I
know
from
my
perspective
and
the
impact
that
has
on
staff
disproportionate
impact
that
we'd
rather
have
a
vacant
lot
than
a
nuisance
property.
J
I
I
I
J
It's
a
little
bit
I
kind
of
liken
it
to
the
sign
ordinances.
Where
you
know,
nobody
really
wants
to
open
up
that
can
of
worms.
It's
similar
on
demolition,
unless
there's
a
real
compelling
reason
to
open
up
that
discussion,
it
hasn't
really
been
opened
up,
but
I
can
tell
you
from
an
impact
point
on
city
services,
nuisance
houses
and
dangerous
houses
and
boarded
buildings
have
a
much
huger
impact
on
a
disproportionate
impact
on
city
staff
than
a
vacant
lot.
J
Know
I
appreciate
that
question,
but
we
haven't
seen
that
it
seems
like
the
houses
to
get
to
the
point
where
they
are
a
nuisance
and
they
are
attracting
the
wrong
element
and
they
are
causing
all
this
disproportionate
issues
there
past
the
point
where
a
reasonable
person
would
do
the
rehab
unless
they're
forced
to
do
it.
The
Historic
Landmarks
Commission.
D
A
little
history
is
that,
okay,
it
there
was
a
time
in
the
city
when
the
policy
was
absolutely
tear
them
down,
they're
a
nuisance
and
that
led
to
a
a
lot
of
times.
Neighbors
would
call
and
say
I
want
that
house
torn
down.
I
was
vacant,
may
not
have
been
vacant
for
long,
but
they
wanted
it
torn
down,
and
so
the
city
was
balancing
a
lot
of
things.
D
After
quite
a
few
houses
were
torn
down,
then
then
there
were
people
raising
the
concern
of
the
impact
on
the
housing
stock
there
being
less
housing
available,
and
also
people
use
the
term
creating
a
hole
in
the
fabric
of
the
neighborhood,
and
that's
always
stuck
with
me,
but
so
it's
a
so
you're
balancing
all
those
things
and,
at
the
same
time,
you're
balancing
these
situations.
Where
a
group
has
a
really
good
use
plan,
but
they
don't
have
it
entirely
planned
out,
so
they
can't
meet
the
detail.
The
very
high
standard.
D
That's
in
this
most
recently
passed
ordinance
a
couple
of
years
ago.
They
can't
meet
that
really
high
standard.
Therefore,
it's
creating
all
this
friction
and
that
type
of
a
thing.
So
so,
there's
kind
of
a
balance
that
the
policymakers
have
to
strike
and
this
what
you're
proposing
helps
address
those
those
peculiar
circumstances
like
the
car
wash
in
sugarhouse
or
the
seventh
east
building
that
had
a
fire
in
it
or
those
sorts
of
things
where
you
really
need
to
remove
the
building.
Yeah
I.
J
A
J
A
Creating
a
new
committee
that
includes
a
City
Councilmember
from
that
district
and
a
chairperson
of
the
Neighborhood,
Council
and
I
have
about
18
questions
about
that
community,
such
as.
How
does
this
comedic
convene?
Can
they
deny
under
what
grounds
how
many
per
year
are
anticipated?
Do
they
meet
in
person
or
individually,
which
staff
person
provides
the
information?
If
there's
follow-up
information,
do
you
have
a
staff
person
designated?
Is
this
an
existing
position
and
does
that
staff
already
currently
support
other
community
or
committees
I'm?
A
Looking
at
page
three
in
I,
don't
know
it's
page
three
of
77
and
the
pages
aren't
numbered
in
the
in
this
packet.
It's
under
amend
the
bold
of
amend,
section
18
point
six
for
under
seven
under
seven
yeah
yeah.
The
second
bullet
point
that
says
includes
committee
that
will
meet
to
review
emergency
demolition
requests.
D
J
I
J
J
J
J
G
G
A
K
A
I
want
to
back
up
to
appreciate
that
we
have
this
early
opportunity
to
look
at
the
work
that
you're
doing
and
we
haven't
had
you
know.
Obviously
we
aren't
to
the
level
that
we
have
a
council
analyst
staff
report
on
it.
So
I
don't
want
to
I,
don't
go
be
too
critical
because
I
know
we're
early
and
we
appreciate
being
early
in
the
conference.
A
J
J
I
I
J
So
I
think
we'd
have
to
up
the
ante
on
the
bond.
We'd
have
to
be
cash
bonds
and
cash
bonds
are
more
expensive
than
performance
bonds.
So
it's
something
that
that
we
would
like
guidance
from
you
on
from
a
perspective
of
supervising
that
process
already
for
the
last
four
years,
I
can
tell
you
it's
it's
a
big
effort.
Okay,.
I
A
J
J
A
C
C
A
C
E
C
C
This
I
think
this
is
everything
that
I've
read
so
far
looks
looks
really
good.
I
do
have
some
questions
that
I'll
be.
You
know
following
as
things
continue,
but
you
know
I
do
appreciate
you
and
the
administration
taking
this
on
and
and
trying
to
address
this
issue,
because
there
were
a
lot
of
unintended
consequences
with
the
2012
bill
or
ordinance,
and
hopefully
we
can
avoid
as
many
of
those
pitfalls
as
possible.
Yeah.
J
We'll
work
closely
with
Nick
on
that
one
of
the
things
kind
of
an
interesting
annek,
allegory
or
anecdote
on
this
process
was.
We
were
thinking
that
we
were
going
to
close
all
the
gaps
right
and
one
of
the
things
that
the
creative
a
couple
of
times
the
creative
developers
did
was
they
actually
applied
for
a
permit
for
the
most
minor
use
that
you
can
imagine
on
that
property
paid
the
permit
fees,
got
their
demolition
permit
and
then
never
proceeded
with
the
project.
I
A
A
I
can
imagine
in
District
five,
several
properties
that
if
they
don't
have
a
landscaping
requirement,
we're
gonna
have
enforcement
out
there
working
on
the
four-foot
tall,
weeds
and
people
sleeping
in
the
weeds
and
having
mattresses
at
the
back
of
the
property
that
we
can't
see
because
they
don't
have
any
landscaping
and
they
aren't
maintaining
it.
So
it's
kind
of
six
one
way:
half
a
dozen,
the
other
sure
that
might
be
the
way
this
game
is
played.
A
But
anyway
again
we
appreciate
your
coming
to
the
table
and
having
the
conversation
and
I'll
look
forward
to
maybe
seeing
some
options
that
the
council
could
consider
on
ways
to
engage
council
members.
These
are
politically
hot
properties
typically,
and
it
would
be
wonderful
to
have
an
assurance
that
council
members
will
I
think
better
than
being
notified,
be
better
than
a
reasonable
effort
to
be
notified,
but
to
be
able
to
attend
those
hab
tours
or
field
trips.
J
A
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
A
L
L
A
L
Great,
we
can
do
that.
The
process
has
been
pretty
easy
when
the
applicants
come
in,
they
really
haven't
had
questions
they've
just
come
in
with
their
application
and
their
resume
or
letters
of
interest
and
we've
verified
their
qualifications
with
the
county,
and
we
don't
put
them
on
the
list
and
tell
their
qualification
their
verified.
C
F
L
D
I
G
L
G
D
D
We
spoke
with
the
current
chair
and
vice-chair
soon
we'll
speak
with
the
new
chair
and
vice
chair
about
the
possibility
of
coming
back
to
you
next
week
with
some
different
process
options
for
how
to
how
to
go
through
and
make
a
first
cut.
Second
cut
that
kind
of
a
thing
so,
but
if
you
guys
wanted
to
now
at
this
point,
say
you'd
like
to
receive
XYZ
material
before
by
the
like,
16th
or
something
then
you'd
be
giving
people.
It
isn't
part
of
the
announcement,
but
you
I'm
sure
people
would
do
that,
but.
D
A
I
G
I
I
I
A
Councilmembers
next
week's
meeting
we
will
be
presented
by
staff,
I
think
two
options
at
least
two
options
of
how
we
can
vote.
When
we
have
our
first
interview
session,
which
will
be
I
think
in
the
formal
meeting,
or
at
least
we
can
hold
that
time
across
the
hall.
Of
course,
that'll
be
public
and
the
way
we
narrow
down
the
candidates
to
two
or
three
we
will
be
able
to
will
be
needing
to
decide
that
next
week.
A
Okay,
so
whether
it's
a
ranked
voting
approach
or
it's
just
just
simple
selection
will
be
presented
with
that
tomorrow,
I'm
sorry
next
week.
The
other
thing
is:
please
submit
questions
to
staff
so
that
we
can
start
to
get
it
it's
kind
of
like
when
we
do
the
priorities
meetings
I
feel
like
and
we
brainstorm.
We
find
that
there's
a
couple
of
strong
themes
of
priorities.
I
think
the
same
will
be
true
of
the
questions
we
want
to
ask.
A
So
even
if
you
jot
down
not
fully
formed
questions
or
if
they're
general
subjects,
please
start
emailing
texting
writing
those
down
for
staff
members.
So
we
can
start
getting
some
questions
put
together
in
it
and
can
I
go
so
far
as
to
say
that
in
it
it
may
make
sense
for
to
ask
more
general
questions
of
the
broad
population
of
applicants
and
not
have
not
be
peppering
every
applicant
with
many
questions
so
that
we
can
get
a
general
sense
of
the
applicants
and
be
able
to
narrow
that
down.
A
C
A
There
that
is
absolutely
an
option
and
I
think
for
me
personally.
I
think
part
of
it
is
that
I
want
to
I,
want
the
conversation
element
or
I
want
to
see
them
present
too.
So
I
think
if
there
are
questions
that
we
want
to
ask
in
writing
or
ask
for
responses
in
writing,
but
maybe
there's
a
couple.
We
want
to
reserve
for
yeah.
C
Yeah
I
mean
I,
wouldn't
I
wouldn't
do
everything
in
writing,
but
I
think
more.
You
know
more
of
the
basic
questions
that
you
know,
we'll
probably
have
consistent
answers
to.
Those
are
the
ones
that
I'm
thinking,
but
you
know
the
the
vision
that
you
know
those
kinds
idea.
You
know
the
bigger
picture.
Questions
we'd
want
to
reserve
for
in
person
great.
A
A
D
Please
we
Margaret
plain
city
attorney
has
been
kind
enough
to
check
with
other
city
attorneys
who
cities
have
been
through
this
recently
to
get
some
ideas
from
them
and
options
and
kind
of
feedback,
and
so
we
have
the
benefit
of
that
information,
and
also
this.
This
is
suggestion
that
incoming
council,
chair
Luke
suggested
is
one
that
hadn't
been
raised
before,
but
could
could
be
easily
put
on
that
list.
D
So
we'll
do
that,
so
we
may
come
back,
maybe
with
four
options,
so
input
on
two
different
things:
the
questions
that
you
would
suggest
and
also
the
process
so
we'll
come
back
with
you,
a
bunch
with
a
to
you
with
a
bunch
of
process
options
but
feel
free
to
suggest
some
in
the
next
couple
of
days.
That
way,
we
can
include
them
on
the
list.
A
E
Here
we
go
an
update,
I've
got
some
bullet
point
items
and
feel
free
to
ask
questions
along
the
way,
but
wanted
to
just
address
some
items
that
have
been
going
on
that
have
been
completed
within
the
port.
For
example,
the
budget
adopted
includes
funding
to
hire
an
executive
search
firm,
which
has
been
done
for
legal
support,
which
has
been
done
forming
a
technical
advisory
committee,
the
hiring
of
the
interim
administrator
community
engagement
process
and
the
blitt
in
the
business
plan.
E
We
have
the
business
plan
RFP
out
and
it
closes
early
this
month
and
the
inside
of
that
RFP.
These
are
great
things.
The
RFP
calls
out
for
economic
and
environmental
studies,
recommendations
for
organization,
organizational
operational
structure
and
funding
models,
specific
site
evaluation
in
infrastructure
needs
a
review
of
existing
inland
port
plans
and
data.
So
all
of
those
things
are
incorporating
things
that
have
already
happened
that
we're
looking
for
moving
forward.
E
So
these
are
you
know
in
a
world
where,
where
we
started
in
such
a
rough
spot,
I
think
that
we've
been
able
to
accomplish
stuff
after
the
first
couple
of
meetings
that
have
smoothed
it
out
and
made
it
a
little
bit
easier.
We
hired
the
executive
search
firm
to
find
the
full-time
executive
director
and
that
firm
is
called
McDermott
and
bol.
They
presented
at
the
last
November
board
meeting
and
outlined
a
four
phase
timeline
for
having
an
executive
director
in
place
and
that
we
expect
to
take
about
90
220
days.
E
So
there's
a
weekly
phone
call
that's
made
and
we
was
staff
and
they
talked
and
find
out
how
the
process
is
going
and
where
we're
at
we
have
hired
an
interim
administrator.
His
name
is
Chris.
Kenobi
I
invited
him
to
be
here
this
evening,
but
he
apologized,
because
it
was
short
notice.
I
thought
you
know
it
might
be
nice
to
have
him
come
in
because
he
is
on
top
of
it.
I
mean
the
guy.
He
wants
to
be
as
more
transparent
than
I.
Think
we've
ever
imagined,
this
being
so
I'm
extremely
excited.
E
He
offered
it
for
me
to
give
out
cell
phone
for
council
members
to
feel
free
to
call
him
whenever
you'd
like.
If
you
have
questions
about
it,
this
individual
will
assist
with
the
RFP
process,
is
coordinate
efforts
and
the
Technical
Advisory
Committee
and
begin
the
public
engagement
efforts.
We
hired
the
legal
support,
which
is
Michael
best
strategies,
Paul
Morris,
who
is
heading
that
up?
He
is
the
attorney
Technical
Advisory
Committee
is
in
vision
and
in
a
boleyn
enabling
legislation.
E
The
purpose
of
this
group
is
to
provide
expertise
to
the
board
on
areas
such
as
transportation,
economic
impact,
environmental
issues,
zoning
and
planning
and
Natural
Resources.
These
experts
will
be
critical
to
be
laying
the
foundation
for
the
future
of
and
success
of
this
project.
So
we
have
held
eight
inland
port
board
meetings
this
year,
each
with
public
comment,
which
is
important
and
the
board
all
most
of
the
board,
went
out
with
a
tour
of
the
northwest
quadrant
that
was
put
together
by
Laura
Fritz
and
her
team
with
the
economic
development.
E
So
it
was
a
well
well
thought-out
tour
and
there
were
great
questions,
asked
I
think
it
was
eye-opening
for
a
lot
of
board
members
who
haven't
experienced
the
full
tour
of
being
out
there.
So
any
questions
I
just
appreciate
I
want
the
councilmembers
here
to
know
how
appreciative
I
am
for
their
support
with
me
on
the
inland
port
and,
more
specifically,
with
our
staff.
It's
been,
we
wouldn't
be
where
we
are
today.
Had
we
not
been
able
to
be
so.
E
A
A
Thanks
for
your
time
and
your
commitment
there,
any
other
questions
for
James
read
yours
just
kidding
all
right,
we'll
move
on
to
item
7,
our
draft
Salt
Lake
City
Foothill
trail
system
plan,
one
of
the
best
draft
plans
I've
seen
in
a
long
time,
come
on
up
Louis,
Cogan,
Kristin
Riker
and
our
own
Allison
Roland.
Hopefully
we'll
begin
our
discussion.
It
was
really
it's
a
good
looking
plan
to
actually
yeah.
L
L
I'm
gonna
start
out
here
we're
here
today
to
present
the
draft
Foothill
Trail
plan.
Lewis
began
work
on
this
in
2016,
with
an
RFP
to
a
to
hire
a
consultant,
and
we
ended
up
hiring
Alta
planning
and
design,
and
we
hired
them
for
their
expertise
on
planning
and
design,
engineering
and
implementation
of
trail
systems.
They
also
did
the
Salt
Lake
City
bicycle
and
pedestrian
plan
that
was
adopted
in
December
of
2015,
so
Louis
and
Alta
planning
worked
together
with
several
of
the
different
owning
jurisdictions,
including
Public
Lands,
Public
Utilities,
the
University
of
Utah,
the
u.s.
L
Forest
Service
in
Salt,
Lake,
City,
Parks,
I'm,
sorry,
Utah,
State,
Parks
Department.
In
addition,
they
also
worked
with
over
50
stakeholder
groups
to
provide
a
very
robust
public
outreach
to
the
constituents
in
Salt
Lake
City,
and
they
had
over
5,000
comments
from
that
process.
I
want
to
quickly
just
say:
Louis's
leadership
on
this
project
and
his
philosophy
regarding
access,
public
access
to
the
foothills
and
balancing
that
with
environmental
sustainability.
L
In
this
plan,
it's
it's
a
tricky
balance,
but
through
his
philosophy,
I
think
that
we
have
gained
the
support
and
respect
from
our
landowner
jurisdictions
and
so
I
just
want
to
throw
out
a
kudos
to
him,
because
this
plan
really
reflects
that
philosophy
and
I.
Think
that's
why
so
many
of
the
public
are
so
excited
about
it
today
is
really
just
a
draft
and
we're
asking
for
your
input,
your
suggestions
and
comments
so
that
we
might
incorporate
those
and
ultimately
have
formal
adoption
of
the
Foothill
Trail
master
plan.
H
Thank
you
very
much,
Kristen
and
I.
Think
you
canceled
members,
it's
exciting
to
be
in
front
of
you
talking
about
this
plan
before
I
jump
in
I.
I
just
want
to
acknowledge.
I
think
that
the
the
foothill
open
spaces
above
Salt
Lake
City,
are
an
incredible
incredible
resource
that
we
we
often
don't
fully
appreciate
and
I.
H
Think
one
of
the
reasons
that
they
haven't,
that
we
haven't
really
fully
appreciated
them
in
the
past
is
because
ownership
in
the
foothills
is
really
a
checkerboard
of
multiple
jurisdictions
and
when,
when
any
individual
entity
would
look
at
their
ownership
in
the
foothills
it
did.
You
know
it
didn't
reflect
what
the
public
would
see
when
they
would
look
up
there
and
see
this
massive.
H
With
with
this
plan,
the
1992
opens
base
plan
specifically
recommended
the
creation
of
a
comprehensive
trails
plan
for
the
foothills,
and
that
was
that
was
never
implemented
and
obviously
much
time
has
passed
and
as
I
mentioned,
there's
that
there's
a
checkerboard
of
ownership-
and
that
includes
you
know:
public
lands,
Salt
Lake,
City,
Public
Utilities
and
their
watershed
program.
The
Forest
Service
Utah
State
Parks,
the
University
of
Utah
and
several
private
landowners,
and
because
of
that,
there
really
is
a
lack
of
integrated
management
and
the
Bonneville
shoreline
trail
committee
came
in.
H
You
know
a
number
of
years
back
and
was
was
able
to
work
with
all
the
different
jurisdictions
and
and
complete
the
Bonneville
shoreline
trail,
at
least
through
this
portion
of
the
plan
area.
But
beyond
that
maintenance
and
management
that
really
hasn't
come
together
and
so
each
entity,
if
it's
doing
anything
at
all,
it's
it's
happening
in
little,
uncoordinated
bits
and
pieces.
So
we
wanted
to
try
to
address
that.
H
Aside
from
the
BST
and
a
couple
of
intentionally
planned,
connector
trails,
most
of
the
trails
in
the
foothills
are
either
social
trails,
by
which
I
mean
user
paths
that
have
just
developed
over
time,
because
people
have
been
taking
a
particular
route
where
they
follow.
You
know
old,
jeep,
roads
and
most
of
those
are
fall
line,
trails
by
which
I
mean
they
go.
H
You
know
they
follow
gravity
and
go
straight
up
and
down
either
gullies
or
Ridge
lines,
and
that's
very
concerning
because,
as
use
inevitably
expands
in
the
foothills
continued
use
of
those
trail,
alignments
is
ultimately
going
to
result
in
worsening
erosion
and
some
some
pretty
large
problems
down.
The
road
proliferation
of
social
trails
has
been
a
significant
issue.
H
I'll
talk
later
about
kind
of
the
extent
of
the
existing
trail
system,
but
there
are
over
60
miles
of
just
user
trails
in
the
foothills
that
we
feel
like
are
unsustainable,
they're
too
steep
they're,
they're,
actively
eroding
and
they're
really
unmaintainable
the
very
limited
trailhead
access
most
of
the
trail
heads
are
informal
and
I
would
really
only
call
them
access
points
because
there's
there's
public
access,
but
almost
no
amenities
to
help
people
help.
People
know
this
is
where
I
should
access
the
foothills.
This
is
a
place
where
I
can
park.
H
H
You
can
find
a
couple
of
trails
that
are
pretty
gradual,
but
for
the
most
part
it's
sort
of
a
you
know:
exclusive
trail,
Network
and,
and
it's
it's
hard
to
find
different
experiences
that
different
users,
different
ability
levels
might
might
be
interested
in
and
finally,
just
there's
that
there's
a
lack
of
intentional
trail
system
design
so
getting
for
you
know
from
point
A
to
point
B,
sometimes
quite
quite
challenging
and
circuitous
there's
a
lot
of
user
conflicts
on
trails.
So,
for
all
these
reasons
we
felt
like
putting
putting
together
a
plan
was
very
important.
H
H
It
doesn't
have
relevance
before
this
plan,
the
our
our
project
division,
the
foothills
Natural
Area,
will
provide
a
variety
of
recreational
trail,
experiences
for
all
ages
and
abilities,
while
managing
the
foothills
environmental
resources
for
future
generations,
and
and
from
that
vision
we
came
up
with
with
five
goals
of
for
the
trail
system
and
for
the
trail
system
plan.
And
if,
if
you
don't
mind
me
taking
three
minutes,
I
think
these
are
very
important,
so
I'm,
just
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
read
through
them.
H
First
of
all,
we
envision
a
trail
system
that
is
environmentally
sustainable,
which
means
that
trails
avoid
sensitive
habitats.
They
minimize
erosion
and
sedimentation
and
vegetation
disturbance
they
make
efficient
use
of
available
natural
lands.
The
wild
and
scenic
nature
of
the
foothill
landscape
is
protected.
Fragile,
natural
or
cultural
features
are
avoided
and
trails
direct
users
away
from
closed
or
protected
watershed
areas.
H
We
envisioned
a
trail
system
which
is
enjoyable,
which
means
that
trails
cater
to
a
variety
of
recreation
types
and
also
to
a
variety
of
desired
experiences,
including
solitude,
escape
and
connection
to
the
natural
world
challenge
and
exercise
and
fun
and
excitement
trail
layout
and
construction
should
be
optimized
to
the
intended
user
group
of
any
individual
trail.
Segments
and
trails
are
routed
to
take
users
to
desirable
areas
and
points
of
interest.
H
We
envisioned
a
trail
system
which
was
accessible,
which
means
trails
that
are
accessible
to
a
broad
audience
of
beginner
to
intermediate
trail
users,
including
families,
seniors
disabled
individuals.
Trailhead
should
be
sited
and
designed
to
make
it
easy
for
people
to
get
on
the
trails
and
should
be
connected
to
alternative
transportation
routes.
Wayfinding,
signage
and
supplemental
trail
information
should
make
it
easy
for
people
to
understand
and
navigate
the
trail
system.
H
We
envisioned
a
trail
system
that
was
safe,
which
means,
in
this
case
trail,
user,
collisions
and
conflicts
should
be
mitigated
and
minimized
through
trail
design
and
eustress
use
regulations,
signage
and
natural
barriers.
Minimize
incidences
have
lost
or
disoriented
people
and
make
it
easier
for
emergency
personnel
to
locate
accident
victims.
Trails
should
be
routed
to
discourage
trespassing
on
private
property.
H
Crime
prevention
through
Environmental,
Design
or
septet
principles
are
incorporated
in
trailhead,
designed
to
mitigate
theft
and
vandalism
to
parked
cars
and,
finally,
a
trail
system
that
is
low
maintenance,
meaning
trails
drain
water
naturally
follow
contours
instead
of
fall
lines
and
effectively
encourage
users
to
remain
on
trail.
Minimising
maintenance
and
reconstruction
needs
and
costs.
Thoughtful
trail
layout
reduces
the
creation
and
use
of
informal
trails
and
routes.
Trails
are
cited
to
bring
regular
trail
users
through
problem
areas
to
reduce
incidents
of
vandalism,
graffiti
and
illicit
activity.
H
H
Everything
that's
colored
in
on
this
map
is
is
within
the
area
that
we
looked
at
for
the
Foothill
trail
system
plan
and
I've
I've
put
red
circles
here
around,
but
we
roughly
how
we
roughly
subdivided
it
in
to
plan
areas
so
on
the
upper
left.
We
call
that
the
north
plan
area
central
plan
area
and
on
the
South
plain
area
down
to
the
lower
right
and
I'll
just
take
a
minute
to
kind
of
describe
those
to
you.
H
So
the
north,
the
north
plan
area,
runs
basically
from
Victory
Road
and
ensign
peak
north
across
meridian
peak,
which
not
many
people
know
exists
and
then
and
then
all
the
way
up
to
the
Bonneville
shoreline
Preserve
and
the
North
North
Salt
Lake
border.
The
most
of
the
south
side
of
that
area
is
Salt,
Lake,
City
ownership,
a
combination
of
public
lands
and
public
utilities,
property
and,
and
then
the
Forest
Service
has
a
significant
ownership
along
the
northern
edge.
H
The
central
area
is
generally
above
the
above
the
avenues
and
that
runs
from
City
Creek
on
the
west,
up
over
Morris
Meadows
to
avenues,
twin
peaks
and
then
up
into
the
upper
forks
of
dry
creek,
Salt,
Lake
City
is
far
and
away
the
largest
landowner
in
that
area.
Again:
a
combination
of
public
utilities,
property
and
public
lands
property.
The
majority
is
actually
public
utilities,
lands
and
the
Forest
Service
is
a
minority
owner
in
that
neighborhood
and
then
also
in
the
vicinity
of
Perry's,
Hollow
and
federal
point.
H
The
the
south
plan
area
runs
from
Dry
Creek
and
then
basically
down
above
the
University
of
Utah
and
research
park
campus
and
includes
the
summit's
of
Mount,
Van,
cought,
red
butte
and
mount
wire.
That
area
starts
in
University
of
Utah
property,
their
heritage
Preserve,
which
has
a
conservation
easement
on
it,
held
by
Utah,
open
lands
and
and
then
includes
quite
a
bit
of
Forest
Service
land
as
it
crosses
red,
butte
canyon
and
pretty
much
all
of
mount
wire
is
for
a
service
land
and
then
right
at
the
mouth
of
emigration.
H
Canyon
there's
a
bit
of
Salt
Lake,
City
public
utilities,
property
in
our
plan
area
and
also
a
significant
chunk
that
is
owned
by
Utah,
State
Parks
and
managed,
as
this
is
the
place
Heritage
Park
we,
as
as
Kristen
mentioned,
we've,
been
doing
quite
a
bit
of
public
engagement
for
this
plan.
We
started
way
back
in
June
of
2016.
H
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much.
We
started
back
in
June
of
2016,
so
June
of
2016
to
June
of
2017.
We
did
a
year-long
outreach
survey
where
we
were
out.
We
had
staff
out
on
the
trails,
engaging
people
telling
them
about
our
survey.
We
were
out
there
with
iPads
having
people
take
the
survey.
We
were
posting
trail
heads
just
trying
to
get
as
many
trail
users
as
possible
to
give
us
feedback
about
how
they
used
the
trail
system,
what
their
preferences
and
desires
were.
H
Actually,
I
should
also
mention
that
that
we
were
able
to
insert
several
questions
into
the
statistically
valid
survey
that
y2
analytics
did
for
the
parks
and
trails
natural
lands
and
needs
assessment
survey,
and
that
was
it.
That
was
a
citywide
survey
that
was
corrected
in
various
ways
for
statistical
significance,
and
so
those
answers
to
those
questions
were
also
very
helpful.
Once
we
had
alta
on
board,
we
did
a
deep
dive,
which
was
a
week-long
intensive
retreat
to
come
up
with
a
first
draft
trail
system
plan.
H
We
ended
up
with
37
different
stakeholder
groups
joining
us
for
that
and
and
along
with
that,
we
also
did
a
number
of
additional
intercept
surveys
on
the
trail
system.
User
counts
at
various
trail
heads
that
resulted
in
the
generation
of
a
first
draft
of
the
plan
around
November
of
2017,
and
then
we
created
an
an
online
map
and
public
input
platform
that
we
advertised
very
widely
and
shared
with
the
public,
and
we
were
very
pleased
with
how
well
that
worked.
H
We
had
about
2300
participants
in
that
and
we
got
a
lot
of
really
great
detailed
public
input
and
information.
People
were
able
to
draw
preferred
trail.
Alignments
on
the
map,
highlight
our
identified
trail
alignments
and
tell
us
if
they
liked
them
or
if
they
didn't,
and
why
all
sorts
of
things,
then,
after
that,
so
we
had
that
map
open
for
about
two
months
and
we
we
started
for
a
number
of
months.
H
We
did
presentations
to
all
sorts
of
relevant
Salt,
Lake,
City,
citizen,
advisory
boards,
community
councils,
etc,
and-
and
over
that
time
we
were
revising
that
first
draft.
We
came
out
with
a
second
draft
of
the
plan
in
April
of
2018
and
we
put
a
new
version
of
the
online
map
out
there.
We
had
about
800
responses
to
the
second
version.
We
also
organized
and
widely
publicized
to
open
houses.
H
Then
starting
in
July.
We
entered
into
sort
of
an
internal
review
and
we
had
transportation,
division
and
Planning
Division
public
utilities
and
and
our
own
folks
review
the
plan
and
that
actually
went
through
December
and
generated
a
tremendous
amount
of
comments.
So
the
the
document
is
still
in
revision
as
we
respond
to
those.
So
this
is
this
is
a
great
time
we're
still
we're
still
soliciting
feedback.
H
So
we're
obviously
in
front
of
you
today,
we'll
be
going
to
I'll
be
going
to
Planning
Commission
tomorrow
later
this
month,
we
expect
to
be
back
in
front
of
the
parks,
natural
lands,
urban
forestry
and
trail
board
and
then
also
the
bicycle
every
committee.
We
expect
to
weigh
in
on
this
as
well
Louis.
H
H
The
website
is
still
active,
we
are
still
getting
emails
from
folks
and
then
we
we
don't
have
the
the
interactive
web
Maps
still
active,
but
we
continue
to
post
the
updated
drafts
of
the
trail
plan
and
then
we
are
also
planning
as
we
get
to
the
public
eventual
public
hearing
with
the
City
Council
with
Planning
Commission,
we
will
be
sending
out
an
email
blast,
notifying
everybody
who's
participated
to
date.
That
will
be
doing
that
great.
C
A
C
So
the
question
that
I
had
so
once
you
move
forward
with
this
and
have
you
know
all
the
comment
and
everything?
What's
the
plan
for
everything
between
emigration,
Canyon
and
parlays,
because
that
I
know
is
going
to
be
another
substantial
section
I
understand
that
there
are
more
problems
with
that,
just
because
the
private
property
issues
and
Forest
Service
issues,
but
are
you?
Are
you
developing
this
plan
in
a
way
that
it
that
you
could
add
on
to
it
and
that
you're
not
gonna
have
to
you
know
redo
the
entire
the
entire
process.
H
H
Property
ownership
transfer
in
the
cinah,
T's
parlays
point
I,
know
you're,
aware
of,
and
that
will
that
will
provide
a
substantial
amount
of
additional
open
space
land
that
we
have
to
work
with,
facilitate
quite
a
bit
more
of
a
wonderful
shoreline,
trail
connection
and
I
think
make
it
worthwhile
to
go
through
that
that
planning
process.
Okay,.
H
So
III
wanted
to
acknowledge
that
the
the
the
draft
of
the
trails
plan
that
you
received
in
your
November
5th
transmittal
has
sort
of
been
several
several
parts
of
it
have
been
updated
as
we've
continued
to
work
on
addressing
comments
and
the
most
significant
changes
that
have
been
made
since
the
the
draft
that
was
attached
to
the
transmittal.
We
have
modified
several
trail
segments
to
accommodate
feedback
from
the
different
landowner
agency
jurisdictions.
H
Really
there
weren't
there
weren't
very
many
changes.
The
most
significant
one
is
that
we
have
we've
modified
the
the
trail
system
in
the
upper
forks
of
dry
creek
and
taken
out
the
taking
out
the
trail
that
was
sort
of
in
the
far
upper
reaches
of
dry
creek
for
environmental
and
habitat
protection
concerns.
H
Cost
estimates
and
maintenance
costs,
and
so
we've
substantially
revised
those
as
well
our
our
proposed
trail
network
at
this
point.
Well
right
now
there
are
about
a
hundred
and
seven
miles
of
existing
trail.
If
you
take
into
account
the
Bonneville
shoreline
trail
and
its
connectors
through
this,
and
then
all
of
the
other
I
guess
what
I'll
call
social
trails
of
any
kind.
The
many
of
those
are,
you
know
very
faint,
but
we
we
tried
to
map
all
of
them
that
we
could.
H
We
are
proposing
to
construct
sixty-five
miles
of
new
trail
and
incorporate
41
miles
of
existing
trails
into
a
trail
system.
That
would
then
total
virtually
the
same
about
106
miles
of
formally
adopted
trail
system,
and
then
we
would.
We
would
then
hope
to
gradually
over
time
allowed
the
remaining
unsustainable
user
trails
and
social
trails
to
either
be
actively
or
passively
decommissioned
or
abandoned.
H
Realistically,
we
fully
anticipate.
There
will
be
some
that
you
know
we
can't
get
rid
of
and
our
very
beloved,
but
I
think
that
for
the
most
part,
once
once,
we
have
a
fully
functional
trail
system.
People
will
really
appreciate
that
and
some
of
the
user
trails
well,
quite
a
few-
the
user
trails
will
go
away
when
it's
all
said
and
done.
The
formal
trail
system
will
have
just
over
18
miles
of
trails
that
are
would
be
managed
for
foot
traffic
only
and
about
17
miles
of
trails.
That
would
be
managed
exclusively
for
downhill.
H
A
B
A
I
my
brother,
who
is
a
single
track,
rider
and
spends
as
many
nights
a
week
up
on
these
trails,
as
he
can
wanted
me
to
emphasize
that
most
of
the
competition
runs
our
have
an
average
of
70
percent
or
greater
grade,
and
that
that
demand
is
definitely
there
for
some
writers
who
wants
deep
and
hard
and
they
don't
want
those
trails.
Disk
decommissioned,
yeah,
so
I
know,
there's
a
gamut
of
access
and
use
your
abilities,
but
I
I
think
when
it
comes
to
those
the
creation
of
those
social
trails.
H
You
we
received
a
tremendous
amount
of
feedback
from
well
from
from
every
type
of
trail
user,
but
definitely
heard
from
plenty
of
people
and
what
I
would
say,
the
advance
to
extreme
mountain
bike.
Community
and
I
feel
like.
We
now
have
a
very
thorough
appreciation
of
what
trails
they
like
to
use
and
really
don't
want
to
go
away.
H
Some
of
those
we
feel
like
just
could
not
be
incorporated
into
the
formal
trail
system,
because
maintenance
of
them
would
be
virtually
impossible,
they're
so
steep,
but
at
the
same
time
eliminating
them
did
not
seem
like
a
good
idea
because
they
have
a
diehard
user
base,
and
so
there
are
trails
for
which
we,
we
simply
recommend
we're,
not
we're
not
planning
to
decommission
them.
We're
also
not
planning
to
sign
them.
The
people
who
do
use
them
are
few
but
committed,
and
they.
H
Travel
whilst
they
know
they're
there
we
do.
You
know
we
do
want
to
discourage
the
building
I've
guess
what
I'll
call
pirate
trails
that
that
can
have?
You
know
substantial
detrimental
effect
on
on
habitat
and,
and
so
our
hope
is
that,
with,
as
this
trail
systems
implemented,
there
really
will
be
something
for
everyone
and
the
need
for
that
will
be
less
I,
think
I'm,
hoping
that
all
of
you
have
had
at
least
a
brief
chance
to
look
at
them.
The
maps
that
are
that
are
in
the
plan,
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
really
quickly.
H
All
of
you
have
probably
taken
a
look
at
these,
but
we
created
a
bunch
of
tables
with
additional
information
about
each
trail
segment,
narratives
about
the
trail,
the
type
of
use
that
we
anticipate
its
features
its
recommended
with
and
then
for
some
reason,
as
I
was
converting
the
PDF
to
a
PowerPoint.
The
habitat
study
areas
disappeared.
So
I
just
wanted
to
emphasize
again
that
we,
we
are
also
recommending
three
habitats
study
areas,
basically
in
the
areas
of
the
foothills,
which
are
farthest
away
from
the
current
high
levels
of
use.
So
currently
pretty
limited
recreational
impact.
C
H
H
We
wanted,
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
put
a
plan
together,
and
we
were
very
very
concerned
that
the
whole
planning
process
would
just
basically
devolve
it
and
and
I
think
that
when,
when
we
have
a
plan,
I
mean
we've
definitely
been
thinking
about.
I
think
there
are
plenty
of
opportunities
in
this
plan
to
identify.
A
I
Yeah,
that's
the
main
issue
that
I've
heard
about
from
constituents
about
these
trails
is
whether
there
would
be
you
know
why
there
weren't,
dog
and
not
leash
or
on
leash
designations
and
I,
know
that
some
of
them,
the
trail
heads,
have
signs
that
say
already
that
you
can't
have
a
dog
on
leash,
but
I
also
know
that
so
many
residents,
especially
the
ones
that
live,
make
a
budding
the
trail.
You
know
just
let
their
dogs
run
up
or
and
all
around
so
I'm
wondering
is
there
I
mean?
I
Is
there
a
way
to
create
like
a
dog
buffer?
If
there
is
gonna,
be
it
so
people
want
to
be
off
leash
that
they
can
be.
You
know
way
way
up,
but
if
once
it's
getting
closer
to
the
city
with,
if
you're
within
a
certain
range
of
houses,
I
mean,
would
that
be
a
potential
solution
rather
than
having
to
sign
each
trail?
I
think.
L
The
dog
issue
from
the
trail
issue
and
making
this
a
Foothill
trails
master
plan
was
kind
of
important
to
us
to
keep
some
of
that
out
of
it,
so
that
we
could
get
a
trails
plan
and
and
I
think
that
that's
something
that
maybe
we
should
begin
to
look
at
is
how
do
we
address
dogs
in
the
foothills,
but
separating
that
with
this
seemed
like
a
just
a
way
to
look
just
at
the
trail
system
and
not
specifically,
some
of
the
rules
that
are
surrounding
the
dogs
in
that
area.
Now.
I
How
you
know
I
want
to
I
want
to
hear
from
you
as
the
experts
as
to
what
you
think
are
the
ways
to
to
start
talking
incorporating
these
into
the
conversation,
because
it's
what
what
I
hear
the
most
about
and
then
probably
a
close
second
to
that
is,
enforcement
of
bikes
on
on
walking
trails
or
foot
trails
and
the
residents
saying
that
there's
like
no
enforcement
that
the
bikers
go
over,
they
want
to
go
and
they
knock
people
over
and
chased
their
dogs
away
or
whatever.
So
is
that
is
there
any?
I
H
H
Concerned
were
they
about
bike
conflicts
and
dog
conflicts.
They
weren't,
particularly.
You
know
that
what
we
weren't
as
concerned
as
we
thought,
but
then
once
we
started
to
identify
specific
trails
that
had
management
controls
and
said
this
is
gonna,
be
hiking
only
Trail
or
biking
only
trail.
Suddenly,
people
felt,
like
you
know.
This
is
a
great
chance
for
me
to
talk
about.
You
know
just
dang,
bikers
or
those
clueless
hikers
and
and
so
we
we
feel
like
in
enforcing
the
management
controls.
H
Here,
we've
tried
to
create
a
trail
system
that
does
you
know
a
really
good
job
of
allowing
people
to
sort
of
you
know
separate
themselves
onto
a
trail
alignment
that
fits
with
their
desired
experience
and
that
those
things
are
dispersed
really
effectively
throughout
the
whole
foothills.
But
we
have
recommended
the
creation
of
a
foothills
Ranger
as
part
of
the
the
management
of
this,
and
we
were
looking
to
Draper
and
Corner
Canyon
and
I
think
they
as
they
developed
their
trail
system.
They
were
seeing
a
lot
of
the
same
issues
exploding
as
their
trail
system.
H
You
know
what
you
know,
sort
of
was
created
and
then
became
popular,
and
they
currently
have.
You
know
a
single
foothills,
ranger
position,
but
at
least
according
to
them
that
you
know,
even
that
single
position
has
has
been
extremely
effective,
and
you
know
that
part
of
the
thought
is
that
if,
if
there
is
at
least
you
know
the
possibility
that
you
could
potentially
run
encounter,
you
know
an
enforcement
official
who
would
be
making
sure
that
people
are.
H
I
Yeah
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
have
somebody
doing
the
basically
district
three
and
then
the
other
one
doing
district
six,
because
of
how
I
mean
how
massive
it
is.
I
don't
need
to
tell
you
that
and
then
I
have
one
other
question:
I'll
wait
till
you
get
to
the
next
slide
actually
absolutely,
but
if
we
need
to
allocate
more
resources
to
enforcement,
stuff,
I
think
that's
something
that
I'll
be
keeping
an
eye
on.
So.
H
H
A
few
minutes
absolutely
I
will
move
quickly,
so
we
also
took
into
consideration
access
to
the
trail
system.
As
part
of
this
plan,
I
just
was
was
showing
here
some
of
our
specific
generalized
sorry,
some
of
our
generalized
recommendations
for
a
major
trailhead.
We
identified
five
major
trail
heads
that
should
be
improved
or
developed
across
the
trail
system.
Ten
minor
trail
heads
and
then
19
access
points.
Basically
right
now.
H
The
trail
system
is
exclusively
almost
exclusively
access
points
with
a
couple
of
informal
trail
heads
and
so
we're
recommending
that
basically
15
different
sites
be
improved
in
some
way
to
be
to
be
to
function
as
either
a
minor
trailhead
with
some
amount
of
parking
and
a
few
amenities
or
a
major
trailhead,
with
more
parking
more
amenities.
The
major
trail
heads
would
be
located
on
primary.
H
You
know,
on
larger
roads,
with
more
connectivity
to
alternative
transportation,
networks,
etc.
The
the
five
major
trailhead
locations
we're
proposing
an
existing
trailhead
at
Tunnel
Springs
in
North
Salt
Lake,
Warm,
Springs,
Park,
Bonneville,
Boulevard,
that
the
salt
dome
pup
Orton
park
and
emigration
Canyon
Road.
C
C
H
Have
had
conversations
with
them,
they
have
not
offered
at
that
parking
lot.
They
they
have
offered
pretty
city
substantial
use
of
the
kind
of
far
eastern
side
of
their
property,
including
there's
a
large
mothballed
restroom
there
and
a
lot
of
space
that
they
really
don't
use,
but
not
the
existing
parking
area.
Okay,
thank.
C
I
I
H
You
thank
you
detailed
design.
It
was
not
included
in
this.
We
have
FY
20
C
IP
request
that
will
be
working
its
way
through
the
process
to
do
the
detailed
design
and
cost
estimation
for
what
we
see
is
some
of
the
most
critically
important
trail
heads.
So
we
kind
of
see
that
working
its
way
through
the
process.
H
So
we
we
have
updated
our
maintenance
costs
for
the
trail
system.
What
we
feel
like
trail
maintenance
really
needs
to
take
into
account
annual
maintenance
of
the
the
physical
trail
as
well
as
weed
control
along
the
trail
corridors
and
and
then
on
top
of
that
management
of
the
trail
system.
We'd
mentioned
the
Ranger
position.
We
these
costs
are
substantially
larger
than
the
previous
draft
for
two
reasons:
one
we
we
hadn't
previously
estimated
anything
related
to
weed
control,
and
we
actually
think
that
that
going
to
be
a
pretty
substantial
and
necessary
ongoing
cost.
H
We
have
puncture
vine
now
growing
at
a
number
of
Foothill
trail
heads.
We
have
yellow
starthistle
and
a
number
of
really
horrible
plain
that
are
starting
to
make
incursions
into
the
foothills
and
where
our
crew
has
been
working
to
tackle
some
of
these
infestations.
It's
been
extremely
time
and
resource
intensive,
and
we
don't
anticipate
that
letting
up,
but
I
think
that
it's
very
important
that
we
continue
to
address
it.
H
So
we
we
added
costs
there
and
then
also
as
we,
we
have
been
basing
a
lot
of
our
annual
physical
maintenance
costs
on
a
rule
of
thumb,
which
says
that
about
4%
of
the
trail,
construction
costs
should
be
then
dedicated
to
annual
maintenance
of
the
trail.
As
we
were
looking
closely
at
estimated
construction
costs,
we
decided
that
we'd
probably
underestimated
construction
costs
for
most
of
our
trails,
because
they're
on
there
on
steeper
slopes,
just
kind
of
the
nature
of
the
the
Wasatch
Front.
H
Here
initially,
we
were
looking
at
an
average
of
about
$5,
a
linear
foot,
and
we
thought
that
probably
most
of
the
trails
would
actually
be
closer
to
$8
a
linear
foot
to
construct.
So
we
we
updated
our
trail
construction
costs
and
our
trail
maintenance
costs
accordingly,
which
which
brought
us
to
an
estimate
of
about
four
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
maintenance
of
the
total
system,
which
includes
existing
trails
and
proposed
new
trails
and
management.
H
Currently,
a
small
amount
of
maintenance
is
happening
from
the
trails
and
natural
lands.
Division
and
a
small
amount
of
maintenance
is
happening
up
there
with
the
Bonneville
shoreline
trail
committee.
But
it's
pretty
minimal
and
assurance
of
adequate
long-term
maintenance
was
very
important
to
all
of
the
jurisdictional
partners
that
we've
been
working
with
on
this
trail
plan.
We
understand
that
that
is
that's
a
lot
of
money
and
it
becomes
a
lot
a
lot
of
money.
H
As
you
look
at
that,
you
know
at
funding
that
every
year,
so
we
are
aggressively
exploring
a
couple
of
different
models
to
try
to
offset
the
costs
of
that
ongoing
maintenance.
Currently
we're
looking
at
nonprofit
partner
models
like
mountain
trails,
foundation
up
in
Park,
City
and
there's
there's
quite
a
few
cities
in
our
region
that
have
strong
partnerships.
Yes,
I
didn't.
H
Sure
so,
a
model
where,
where
the
city
essentially
engages
with
a
nonprofit
partner
who
works,
to
conduct
the
trail
maintenance
and
to
fund
it,
sometimes
receiving
a
small
amount
of
funding
from
the
municipality,
and
then
they
go
out
and
fundraise
to
bring
in
additional
funds.
Another
model
that
we're
looking
at
is
creating
maintenance
endowment
with
a
Community,
Foundation
or
another
organization
to
try
to
bring
in
a
substantial
amount
of
private
funding
upfront
to
hit
a
an
endowment
target,
and
then
the
endowment
would
spin-off
an
interest
payment
annually.
H
B
H
So
currently
it's
just
it's
part
of
what
our
our
district
six
maintenance
crew
tackles
on
top
of
parlays
Nature
Park
Wasatch,
hollow
Miller,
Park,
hidden
hollow
and
a
couple
other,
so
we
haven't
separated
it.
It's
it's
pretty
minimal.
We
basically
go
up
there
when
there's
a
critical
issue,
usually
usually
a
serious
weed
infestation
and
occasionally
a
urgent
trail
maintenance
issue.
A
You
try
I
get
the
sense
that
we
may
need
another
opportunity
to
come
back
to
this,
so
I
don't
mean
to
cut
you
short,
but
maybe
wrap
it
up
in
the
next
two
to
five
minutes.
I
can
do
that
and
with
insurance
that
we
will
have
more
conversations
on
this,
as
our
staff
helps
us
dig
into
it
more
absolutely.
H
H
Yes,
so,
finally,
I
just
wanted
to
share
our
revised
phasing
plan,
based
on
recent
conversations
we've
had
with
our
different
agency
partners,
we
revised
the
phasing,
and
so
now
we
have
previously.
We
had
four
phases
and
we've
reduced
that
to
three
phases:
phase
one
we're
estimating
about
six
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollars
to
construct
on
just
over
fourteen
trail
miles.
Phase
two
is
a
very
large
phase,
both
in
terms
of
miles
and
costs
and
then
phase
three
is
everything
else.
H
We
we
based
the
phasing
off
of
public
support
that
had
been
indicated
for
specific
trail
segments
who
owned
the
land
and
how
complicated
it
was
likely
to
be
to
work
with
that
landowner
in
the
need
for
additional
habitat
data
collection.
Before
we
constructed
a
trail,
we
let's
see
and
then
so
we
have
now
a
total
trail
system,
construction,
cost
estimate
of
about
2.8
million.
We
have
approximately
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
City
Council
you
allocated
this
October.
We
are
intending
to
go
and
look
for
additional
supplemental
funding
from
two
grant
sources.
H
There
are
some
other
costs
here.
Obviously,
the
decommissioning
costs,
which
would
be
relatively
small
signage
development,
which
should
also
be
relatively
small
and
then
trailhead
costs,
which
we
really
need
to
estimate
it'll,
probably
be
fairly
large
costs
associated
with
some
of
the
trail
heads.
The
this
last
map
just
looks
at
that.
The
trails
that
would
be
included
as
part
of
the
current
what's
currently
imagined
as
phase
one
are
highlighted.
Most
of
those
are
focused
in
the
avenues
and
they're
trails
that
were
identified
by
a
lot
of
people
as
being
very
high
priority.
H
Finally,
very
quickly,
what
we
anticipate
is
next
steps.
As
far
as
public
process
I
already
mentioned,
peanut
board,
Planning,
Commission,
Bicycle,
Advisory,
Committee,
I'm
sure
coming
back
to
you
several
times
and
hopefully
ultimately
getting
to
a
public
hearing
and
adoption
the
City
Council
and
then
I'm
I
think
I'm
out
of
time,
I'm
not
going
to
dive
into
the
implementation
next
steps,
but
please
feel
free
to
read
through
those
we're.
Just
basically
that's
how
we're
planning
to
take
this
forward
into
the
into
the
future.
A
So
mr.
chair
I
think
he's
not
even
there
yet
well
we'll
bring
this
back
and
I'd
like
to
propose,
as
the
staffs
have
produced
Alison's
produced
some
questions
for
us
that
the
questions
I
assume
you've
seen
them
also
help
us
start.
Our
discussion
for
next
time
and
that'll
help
us
navigate
some
of
the
policy
questions
or
budgeting
questions
that
are
in
there
perfect.
L
So,
just
to
get
us
oriented
real
quick,
there
are
actually
two
separate
things:
a
franchise
agreement
and
a
master
license
agreement
they're
similar
but
separate.
Thank
you.
The
franchise
agreement
is
similar
to
you've,
seen
them
before,
with
CenturyLink
and
Verizon
that
governs
like
digging
for
fiber
installation.
The
master
license
agreement
is
a
new
process
established
last
year
for
small
cell
wireless
installations.
So
we've
seen
one
of
these
so
far
under
the
new
process,
and
then
this
is
the
next
one
with
crown
castle
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Dan.
M
Thank
you.
This
is
actually
a
very
standard
franchise
agreement
that
the
city
stat.
We
do
this
on
a
standard
basis
and
there's
really
nothing
different
about
the
terms.
This
franchise
agreement
that
we've
seen
before
and
with
this
being
the
second
master
license
agreement
same
terms,
is
the
one
that
was
issued
in
the
first.
This
will
go
on
for
10
years
with
a
1
10
year.
Extension
on
that
and.
A
M
E
I
M
Yeah
I
think
that's
a
really
good
question.
It's
a
little
bit
difficult
to
mandate
where
they're
going
to
put
these
in
the
city
in
the
franchise
or
the
master,
license
agreement
and
and
I
think
the
the
difficulty
comes
in
that
most
of
the
installations
that
these
carriers
provide
are
all
market
driven.
M
So
bill
does
take
a
big
map
of
the
city
and
they'll
show
where
the
gaps
are
for
coverage
and
that's
where
they're
gonna,
they're
gonna,
locate
there
their
attachments
and
so
having
an
agreement
that
mandates
where
they
go
is
a
little
bit
difficult
to
go
on.
That
may
be
something
that
our
attorneys
could
even
address
as
well.
In.
I
M
I
A
A
D
Okay,
National
League
of
Cities
conference
in
Washington,
DC
March
10th
through
13th,
we're
on
a
bit
of
a
tight
timeframe.
So
if
anyone
is
intending
to
go,
but
it
hasn't
yet
let
staff
know
please
do
let
us
know
asap,
then.
The
next
item
is
the
Public
Utilities.
Department
is
kind
to
work
with
us
in
allowing
us
to
use
their
mailing
service
to
piggyback
and
include
council
newsletters
in
in
their
utility
mailing.
C
C
I
I
F
F
G
B
C
M
I
D
A
D
Great
are
saying
that
is
correct.
Ok,
then,
your
seating
lottery
for
this
room
will
be
ready
to
get
that
going
at
your
at
the
beginning
of
your
next
meeting.
So
you
pull
a
number
out
of
a
hat
number
one
said
tell
us
which
seat
that
they
want
the
chair
and
vice
chair
are
typically
in
these
two
seats.
I
suppose
the
chair
and
vice
chair
could
choose
to
sit
elsewhere.
J
D
D
It
would
be
best
if
we
could
get
someone
identified
and
approved
soon
like
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
because
now
is
the
time
of
year.
When
the
citizen
compensation
advisory
committee
is
doing
its
work,
so
it's
had
I
believe
their
first
meeting
is
coming
right
up
and
then,
tomorrow
morning,
at
7:30
a.m.
at
Tracy
aviary
is
the
legislative
breakfast.
A
I
have
a
question
Cindy
not
for
an
answer
right
now,
but
I
remember
that
there
are
a
few
conference
options
in
the
spring,
some
of
maybe
two,
maybe
there's
three
of
them,
even
in
March,
between
the
downtown
Alliance,
APA
and
NLC.
Could
we
ask
that
maybe
next
week
we
have
a
calendar
kind
of
view
of
yes?
Yes,
those
that
we
know
about.
Yes,.