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A
By
councilmember
Fowler
is
there
a
second
second
by
councilmember,
Mendenhall
roll
call,
this
councilmember
Wharton
Mendenhall
I,
am
an
I
council.
Member
Johnson
is
an
aye
aye
councilmember,
Fowler,
aye
and
Valdemar
owes
no
your
Johnson
you're
good
I
got
it
okay,
so
we
we
are
officially
in
closed
session,
we'll
invite
everyone
who
is
not
here
for
the
closed
sessions
to
leave
at
this
time.
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
D
There
in
advance
it's
a
little
easier
to
get
tickets
out
to
everybody
our
first
year.
We've
done
this
kind
of
in
some
stages,
so
our
first
year
we
did,
we
relied
on
anonymity
and
we
asked
people
to
sign
up
online
to
get
their
tickets
and
we
found
that
that
wasn't
very
successful.
It
was
a
little
bit
more
of
just
a
transaction.
Sometimes
people
might
not
pick
up
their
tickets
and
you
can
really
see
in
our
2017-18
season,
which
was
our
first
year.
D
We
had
about
43
percent
utilization,
and
that
was
a
little
bit
discouraging
because
the
shows
are
so
awesome.
So
what
we
decided
to
do
is
in
this
last
season,
we've
gone
to
more
personal
contact.
We
make
lots
of
phone
calls,
we
meet
with
people,
and
you
can
see.
We
have
one
more
show
left
in
the
season
which
is
Book
of
Mormon,
but
we
have
78
percent
utilization
and
it
makes
a
big
difference
when
we,
when
we
have
when
we
have
contact
with
people
and
it's
more
of
an
experience
for
them.
D
E
Cami
I
want
to
just
make
one
point
of
clarification
on
the
percentages.
That's
the
percentage.
We
got
a
hundred
percent
of
the
tickets
out,
but
only
43
percent
were
actually
redeemed
and
used
and
we
want
to
make
sure
those
tickets
are
used.
So
it's
not
just
enough
for
us
to
make
sure
that
we
distribute
them,
but
we
want
people
to
actually
be
using
them.
So
this
personal
touch
has
really
made
a
big
difference,
as
you
can
tell.
C
C
D
G
D
Really
awesome
now
I'll
give
you
one
that's
two
years
old,
so
you
you
know
for
Hamilton,
we
had
400
tickets,
the
hottest
ticket
in
town,
and
we
gave
all
400
away
and
we
only
had
264
people
use
them
for
Hamilton.
So
you
can
see
the
difference
in
doing
it
over
the
phone
and
online
versus
you
know,
making
a
bunch
of
calls
to
refugee
agencies
and
schools
and
making
partnerships.
It
was
really
successful
and
another
really
interesting
partnership
we
have
this
year
was
with
pride,
Center
and
rent.
F
I,
ask
you
a
question.
Mr.
chair,
when
you're
working
more
directly
with
agencies
are
you?
Is
there
a
feedback
mechanism
to
them
about
the
utilization
of
tickets,
distributed
through
those
relationships,
not
as
a
threat
of
punishment,
or
that
we
wouldn't
work
with
you
in
the
future?
But
so
they
know
what
the
utilization
is.
We.
D
Track
it
pretty
closely,
so
we
ask
them
to,
you,
know,
give
us
names
and
phone
numbers,
and
that
kind
of
thing,
so
we
can
track
it.
Efrain
will
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
Okay
and
how
we're
improving
that
this
year,
great
so
the
one
thing
we've
learned
in
the
past
12
months
is
that
arts
for
all
is
bigger
than
just
distributing
tickets.
D
When
it's
just
a
ticket
distribution
program,
you
can
see
that
it's
not
as
successful
but
as
we've
turned
it
into
more
of
an
experience
and
had
a
lots
of
personal
contact.
It
really
can
provide
a
life-changing
experience
for
for
some
of
the
kids
and
other
people
that
attend
those
refugee.
Kids
were
amazed
that
they
got
to
see
that
intermission.
They
got
to
go
back
and
see
more
or
they
were
trying
to
say
golden
duh.
You
know,
and
it
was
it
was
fun
and
they
really
enjoyed
it.
D
So
what
we
would
like
to
do
is
make
it
more
of
an
experience
and
work
with
lots
of
groups.
Here's
just
a
list
of
some
of
the
groups.
We've
worked
with
over
the
past
couple
of
years.
A
lot
of
these
are
thanks
to
Marilee.
She
found
a
lot
of
these
groups
and
we've
we've
developed
some
really
interesting
relationships.
There's
one
that
I
just
want
to
talk
about
really
quickly
the
other
side
Academy,
which
is
just
up
to
hundred
they're
awesome.
D
So
that's
one
of
those
partnerships
where
you,
you
know,
you
know,
you're
changing
some
lives
and
helping
people
I
wanted
to
Efrain
has
just
joined
us
as
our
arts
for
all
coordinator
and
he's
got
some
great
ideas
going
forward
and
he
has
dedicated
time
to
put
to
this
program,
and
so
he
can
expand
it
even
more.
So
ethanol
at
you,
mr.
F
H
Well,
thank
you
so
much
for
giving
us
the
time
to
come
here
and
have
a
conversation
about
what
the
program
is
and
sort
of
just
as
kami,
just
sort
of
pepper.
Some
of
these
ideas
out
I
just
want
to
sort
of
condense
them
and
group
them
together.
For
you
a
little
bit
and
you'll
see,
there's
a
couple
of
bullet
points
and
I'll
go
one
by
one,
giving
you
a
brief
information,
each
one
of
them
sort
of
a
short
narrative.
H
So
right
now
how
I'm
perceiving
the
partnerships
is
that
I'm
targeting
them
in
two
different
stages
stage.
One
is
instigating
or
initiating
renewed
interest
about
the
program.
Because
to
this
point
we
have
had
old
partners.
But
you
know
their
commitment
has
dwindled
a
lot
and
we
just
wanted
to
be
able
to
reignite
that
excitement
about
what
it.
H
According
to
that,
the
second
stage
of
the
partnerships
is
being
able
to
understand
and
establish
this
idea
that
there
has
to
be
a
rubric
of
commitment
and
understanding
that
we
are
given
a
service,
and
we
expect
there
to
be
a
commitment
and
come
in
both
ways.
So
what
are
the
things
that
we're
doing
is
engaging
in
those
conversations
and
saying
earlier
on?
Let's
keep
our
expectations
really
low.
H
Let's
make
sure
that
we
succeed
instead
of
fail
and
then
figure
out
eventually
how
we
can
garnish
more
a
comprehensive
understanding
of
what
the
program
can
really
take
place
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more.
As
you
see
at
the
very
end,
it
says,
offer
traditional
experiences,
but
is
inside
of
that
there's
something
in
that.
It's
the
heart
of
the
of
the
program
which
is
experienced
right
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
towards
the
end.
H
So
just
don't
forget
that
that
little
thing
in
there
I
want
to
tell
you
about
a
couple
of
the
programs
that
we
or
partners
that
we
have
right
now,
because
we
have
to
be
very
cautious
about
the
content
of
the
shows
and
who
we're
partnering
with
based
on
that,
for
example,
the
Book
of
Mormon
coming
up,
we
have
partnered
with
the
Utah
pride
Center.
They
have
a
program
called
sage
which
focuses
on
seniors,
who
also
identify
as
LGBTQ
members
and
in
some
cases
homeless,
and
so
being
able
to
give
them
out.
H
I
think
we're
now
up
to
160
tickets,
to
distribute
to
them
and
I
think
that's
going
to
be
a
great
partner.
We're
also
partnering,
with
a
quality
Utah,
to
figure
out
how
we
can
use
them
as
a
voice
and
a
vehicle
for
that
I
mean
again.
The
these
relationships
are
hopefully
going
to
withstand
a
long
term
face
and
are
not
just
going
to
be
one-shot
deal.
H
One
of
the
other
things
that
I
wanted
to
talk
about
too,
is
that
as
we're
continuing
to
partner
with
the
other,
shows
we're
also
looking
at
other
organizations
that
are
serving
a
varying
audience.
For
example,
the
organizations
that
I
have
that
I
want
to
share
with
you
is
elevate.
Dance
Company,
based
out
of
Tanner
dance,
elevate,
Dance
Company
is
one
of
the
few
companies
down
in
Salt
Lake,
City
and
County
way
that
I
know,
at
least
that
is
actually
creating
a
platform
for
people
with
disabilities
to
come
and
experience
theater.
H
They
are
taught
they
produce
they
perform,
and
those
are
the
kind
of
relationships
that
we
want
to
invest
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
are
just
sort
of
supporting
the
efforts
that
other
organizations
in
the
city
are
already
implementing
within
the
community.
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
qualifiers
right
now.
H
We
have
them
under
Medicare,
Medicare
and
snap
program,
and
so
we
wanted
to
incorporate
the
veteran
community
as
another
community
that
we
can
reach
out
as
a
subgroup
that
often
is
considered
marginalized
or
forgotten,
and
the
larger
conversation
of
cultural
experiences
in
Salt
Lake
City,
so
we're
partnering
with
the
University
of
Utah
veteran
service
care
center,
reaching
out
to
the
VA,
but
we're
also
working
with
is
incredible
organizations
called
vet
ticks.
That
is
a
national
entity
that
is
actually
the
donor
gives
an
organization
that
I'm
looking
to
model
its
distribution
of
tickets.
H
After
because
they
have
a
vetting
process,
they
have
a
an
opportunity
for
the
system
to
mark
down
who
is
and
who
isn't
using
their
tickets.
The
I
mean
just
all
of
the
reporting's,
and
that
would
answer
all
of
the
questions
that
we
would
have.
That's
that's
an
organization
that
already
has
a
system
in
place
that
is
working
nationwide.
H
One
of
the
other
components
that
we
want
to
talk
about
that
kami
brought
up
is
that
so
far
the
program
has
been
focusing
on
distributing
tickets
for
bra
for
the
Broadway
series,
which
is
you
know,
everybody
wants
to
go
see
a
Broadway
show,
but
no
one
wants
to
show
up
right,
but
that's
we're
gonna
switch
that
around.
We
also
have
the
live
series
of
the
Echols
and,
and
we
really
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
investing
50%
of
the
time
into
curating
and
audience
that
will
attend
those
shows
as
well.
H
So
for
me
having
an
immersive
experience
as
part
of
any
educational
outreach
as
imperative
that
that
knowledge
stays
in
your
body
and
I
am
the
first
person
to
narrate.
That's
there's
something
inside
of
it
that
when
you
know
that
you've
had
it
inside
of
you,
and
you
can
say
that
it's
mine
I
have
seen
their
I
have
been
there.
That's
a
story
that
you'll
take
with
you
forever
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
integrate
inside
of
this.
H
Having
these
conversations
with
the
community
members
really
is,
is
about
how
we
can
manicure
sessions
that
may
perhaps
in
some
organizations,
and
maybe
classes,
may
be
workshops,
maybe
presentations
or
discussions,
whether
there's
a
model
already
in
place
in
the
community.
That
reflects
what
a
free
ticket
in
program
in
this
and
that
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
that
free
ticketing
programming
tends
to
have
a
crack
in
the
system
that
it
could
easily
become
a
passive
program.
H
You
give
a
ticket,
you
expect
for
that
to
be
a
response,
but
there's
no
follow-up
or
there's
no
initiation
introduction
and
a
way
of
processing.
What
you've,
experienced
and
I
think
that
for
us
we
want
to
stray
away
from
that,
but
it
won't
happen
unless
we
have
this
community
conversations
and
we
really
are
looking
at
the
trajectory
of
what
access
is
when
it
comes
to
culture
in
Salt,
Lake,
City
and
the
county
as
well
as
a
whole.
So
if
you
have
any
questions
they're
more
than
happy
to
answer
them.
B
I
just
want
to
say
Hawley
just
called
me
out
I'm
tearing
up
when
you
talk
to
you
about
the
other
site.
Academy
I
am
a
criminal
defense
attorney
and
a
lot
of
my
clients
go
there
and
I
I've
always
felt
that
if
people
have
just
are
given
an
opportunity
and
a
chance,
then
they
really
can
change
their
lives
around,
and
this
is
just
one
of
the
other
things
that
help
them
be
able
to
change
their
lives
around
and
I
needed
to
feel
good.
B
So,
thank
you
so
much
for
all
of
the
hard
work
and
and
for
recognizing
and
Sarah
you've
done
an
amazing
job,
I
think
from
recognizing
how
the
program
kind
of
looked
when
you
started
it
and
saying:
well,
we're
not
going
to
give
up
on
this,
we're
just
going
to
figure
to
make
it
better
and
you
have-
and
you
continue
to
do
that
and
I
I
applaud
you,
and
this
is
a
great
program
and
I
think
it's
really
something
that
has
the
ability
of
touching
a
lot
of
people's
lives.
So
thank
you.
J
H
I
D
Try
to
really
spread
it
around
too,
so
we
work
with
schools.
We
try
to
target
title.
One
schools
and
work
with
all
different
organizations
like
I
said
merrily,
did
a
great
job
of
outlining
a
bunch
of
those
organizations.
So
it's
we
just
we
just
mix
it
up.
We
don't
try
to
hit
the
same
organization
every
single
time,
except
for
smaller.
You
know
like
tossa,
where
they
get
ten.
You
know
so
right.
J
J
D
D
So
when
I
met
with
the
principal
I
explained,
the
spirit
of
the
program
is
the
title:
one,
kids,
the
free
or
reduced
lunch
and
I
said
those
that's
who
needs
to
get
the
tickets
along
with
their
families
if
they,
if
they
want
them
and
I,
think
you
know
that
those
kids
use
them
I've.
Seen
every
color
of
the
rainbow
there
and
I
know
that
when
you
get
a
chance
to
explain
it
to
everybody,
they
really
take
that
to
heart,
and
they
they
do
so
I
I,
don't
well.
We
don't
have
hard
and
fast
data.
E
It
a
bit
more
and
you
know
Efrain
I'll-
be
making
the
program
so
much
bigger.
If
we
do
these
talkback
kind
of
ideas
where
you
get
a
ticket
and
then
you
also
get
to
go
and
have
a
discussion
in
the
at
intermission
about
what
you
saw
then
we're
connecting
with
those
people
in
a
way
and
seeing
who's
using
the
tickets
and
I
think.
B
J
H
As
as
the
person
who's
out
in
the
community,
speaking
to
these
organizations,
I
can
tell
you
that
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
really
focused
on
is
finding
a
way
of
creating
trust,
because
that's
one
of
the
first
thing
that's
going
the
first
thing
that
is
going
to
really
help
us
in
getting
that
number
up.
Inside
of
that
trust,
it
I
feel
like
it's
going
to
be
a
while
before
we
can
gather
information
that
is
so
personal.
It's.
E
H
Comment
like
it
is
right
now
and
I
can
tell
you
that
it's
a
person
of
color
sitting
here
I.
That
is
also
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
focusing
on
how
do
I
diversify
the
audience
that
is
participating
inside
of
this
program
inside
of
this
community
and
I
will
do
my
best
to
make
sure
that
you
have
concrete
numbers
next
time
or
something
that
you
can
reference
at
a
long-term.
Well,.
J
H
J
A
We
will
expand
it,
that
we
will
continue
to
serve
and
and
serve
more
folks
and,
and
that
really
is
exactly
why
I
voted
for
it
in
the
first
place.
That
is
what
you
know.
We
and
and
I
need
to
give
a
shout
out
to
Kyle
him
alpha
as
well,
because
he's
you
know
he
really
championed
this
during
his
time
on.
You
know,
as
the
does
the
chair
and
it's
a
it
really
is
a
great
program.
What
you're
planning
for
it
is
is
even
more
impressive,
so
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
that.
So.
E
A
Thank
you
very
much.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
capital
improvement
program
projects
follow
up
and
if
everyone
can
look
at
the
clock
and
see
that
it
is
now
3:15
and
that
it
is,
this
is
agenda
for
3:15
just
want
to
just
wanted
it's
a
rare
thing,
so
I
just
wanted
to
do
want
to
let
everyone
know
that
hey
we've,
we've
we've
done,
we've
done
the
rare
yes,
okay,
so
we've
we've
talked
about
this
before
it
now
for
for
that
for
those
in
the
audience
and
those
watching
online
just
to
explain
the
process
today.
A
This
will
be.
You
know.
We've
we've
talked
about
CIP
a
number
of
times.
What
I'd
like
to
do
today
is,
hopefully
you
know
hear
from
each
other
what
you
know
what
our
priorities
are
where,
where
we
want
to
see
things
go,
we
are.
We
do
not
have
a
formal
meeting
tonight
because
of
Night
Out
against
crime.
A
I
know
that
many
of
our
communities
and
community
councils
are
going
to
be
sponsoring
those
events,
and
so
for
that
reason
we
are
working
quickly
to
be
done
with
with
our
work
session
agenda
so
that
council
members
can
can
be
out
and
meet
the
rest
of
you
all
at
your
at
your
events
this
afternoon
and
evening.
So
with
that,
we'll
turn
the
time
over
to
Ben
to
pick
up
where
we
left
off
this.
L
Is
the
third
briefing
on
the
fiscal
year,
2020
capital
improvement
program
or
CIP?
You
should
all
have
the
latest
version
of
the
funding
log,
the
lower
left-hand
corner,
it'll,
say
August
1st.
That
is
the
latest
version,
and
if
anyone
in
the
audience
needs
one,
we
have
extra
copies,
just
raise
your
hand.
L
The
first
section
of
the
staff
report
talks
about
the
city's
unfunded
capital
needs.
At
the
last
briefing,
the
council
briefly
talked
about
the
upcoming
sales
tax
revenue
bond
that
will
be
paid
off
in
2021,
which
will
free
up
five
and
a
half
million
dollars
of
general
fund
dollars,
the
most
flexible
funds
available.
L
They
can
go
to
any
project,
and
this
would
represent
fifty
five
million
dollars
over
a
10-year
period,
which
is
a
significant
funding
opportunity
and
what
we
have
in
the
staff
report
listed
as
well
as
shown
on
the
big
screen
is
just
a
quick
list
of
very
large
unfunded
capital
needs
that
were
aware
of
the
needs
are
some
are
one
time
such
as
twenty
five
million
dollars
of
capital
improvements
at
the
city
cemetery.
Some
of
them
are
ongoing,
such
as
fully
funding
the
city's
fleet
and
when
you
add
all
of
these
up,
it's
a
hunt.
L
It's
a
hundred
million
dollars
and
this
doesn't
include
new
constructions
or
major
redevelopments,
such
as
the
utah
theater
and
eastside
police
precinct.
The
fleet
block
doing
something
to
the
leonardo.
So
there
are
many
unfunded
capital
needs
that
we
wanted
to
give
context,
as
you
think
about
that
five
and
a
half
million
dollar
opportunity-
and
it's.
B
L
So
it
depends
how
you
look
at
it:
fifty
five
million
dollars
over
ten
years.
You
can
do
a
lot
of
cool
stuff,
but
you
also
have
a
lot
of
great
ideas
that
cost
more
than
fifty
five
million
dollars.
So
we
just
wanted
to
provide
that
context
if
you
do
want
to
have
a
discussion
today
or
in
the
future
on
what
to
do
with
that
money
or
how
to
use
the
capital
facilities
plan
to
incorporate
your
direction
and
prioritization
for
that
money.
These
are
some
of
the
ideas
staff
has
heard.
You
talk
about.
F
F
Would
like
to
ask
you,
mr.
chair
mr.
vice
chair,
if
we
could
consider,
after
CIP,
but
sometime
this
year,
having
a
discussion
separate
from
obviously
separate
from
CIP
about
guess
the
five
point,
five
potential
in
2020,
but
also
there's,
there's
quite
a
stack
of
major
capital
needs
and
ideas,
and
maybe
we
could
have
a
broader
discussion
about
yes
bonding
as
a
tool.
Maybe
a
Geo
bond
converse
it
just
to
see
where
to
our
priority
stack
up
in
this
list.
What
are
the
best
tools
for
some
of
those
top
priorities?
A
Councilmember
Ben
and
Holle
I.
Do
you
think
that's
a
good
idea,
and
that
is
certainly
something
that
I'll
work
with
James
and
Stefan.
So
but
yeah
no
I
do
I
do
think
it's
a
good
idea.
I'd!
You
know
for
a
long
time.
We've
we've
done.
Our
best
to
you
know,
take
a
stab
and
fund
as
much
as
we
have,
but
the
needs
far
outweigh
the
revenue
as
we
know,
so
we
do
need
to
have
have
that
discussion
so
that
I
appreciate
you
bringing
that
up.
L
So
the
next
next
section
is
project
specific
updates
in
response
to
your
questions
from
the
July
16th
briefing.
The
first
item
is
project
number
one:
the
Warm
Springs
Park,
the
administration
verify
that
just
doing
the
dog
park
portion
would
be
$27,000
and
this
would
be
for
a
perimeter
fence
and
a
gate
and
attachment.
10
is
the
April
2015
amenities
plan
for
the
park.
It
has
15
different
elements
that
are
envisioned
had
an
estimated
cost
of
3
million
dollars
and
I'll
pull
up
a
summary
slide
as
well.
K
K
E
You
thank
you
for
the
question.
There
isn't
currently
a
plan
for
the
phasing
just
because
of
the
the
dollar
amount
and
usually
what
we'll
do
is
take
the
community's
highest
priorities
and
we'll
put
those
to
you
first.
But
what
we
have
found
is
any
project.
That's
over
a
million
dollars
generally
doesn't
get
funded
so
we'll
pick
the
highest
priority
and
bring
it
to
you
and
it'll
take
as
many
phases
as
you
are
willing
to
fund,
and
so
it's
hard
to
it's
hard
to
give
you
an
exact
number
of
phasing.
A
I
I
A
So
what
I
want
to
do
at
this
point
since
we've
all
we've
talked
about
a
lot
of
these
items.
Some
of
these
items
that
we've
talked
about
or
funded
some
are
not
funded
and
some
like
Chris,
the
one
that
Christmas
mentioned,
is
partially
funded.
What
I
want
to
start
with
is
if
we
can
have
staff,
pull
up
their
excel
sheet,
what
I,
what
I
want
to
do?
Just
so
that
we
can
start
narrowing
the
list
down
a
little
bit.
A
Let's
look
at
items
that
have
not
received
any
funding
recommendations
and
if
there
are
items
there
that
council
members
would
like
to
be
considered
now
is
the
time
to
raise
those
because
of
the
fact
that
we
don't
have.
You
know
that
we
there's
obviously
not
enough
money.
I'm
gonna,
ask
that
we
limit
our
requests
of
unfunded
items.
To
I
mean
it
would
be
nice
just
to
say,
hey,
you
know
all
of
this
steps,
important
I
want
it
on
the
list.
That's
not
realistic!
A
A
I
If
you
remember
this
was
before
us
last
year
as
part
of
the
improvements
to
Lindsey
Gardens,
we
we
funded
the
walkway
so
that
you
could
get
from
the
top
apart
to
the
bottom,
without
falling
down.
I
would
ask
that,
given
the
increase
in
available
CIP
or
impact
fee
funds
that
we
shift
items
number
six,
okay,.
A
So
I'm
gonna
stop
you
real,
quick,
okay.
So
before
we
start
shifting
money-
okay,
let's
just
let's
build
the
list:
okay
and
then
we'll,
and
then
we
can
talk
about
where
to
where
to
get
the
money
for
okay.
That
makes
sense
sure,
okay,
so
I
want
that
on
the
list.
Okay,
so
is
a
line.
42
would
be
that
it
so
on
our
unfunded
list,
we'd
have
line
42
and
and.
I
A
B
B
2102
sugar
menthe
making
improvements
along
McClellan,
and
this
is
the
second
year
in
a
row
that
my
community
has
put
in
a
CIP
application
for
this
and
the
second
year
in
a
row
that
it
has
not
been
funded.
It's
wildly
supported
throughout
the
community
and
I've
received
a
ton
of
emails
and
in
fact
it's
an
area
that
I
frequent,
often
because
I
walk
from
my
house
over
to
2100
and
would
like
to
be
able
to
walk
safer
along
those
Street
along
that
Street.
So
I
would
be
pushing
very
adamantly
to
fund
this.
B
B
L
F
K
F
F
A
All
right,
while
everyone
else
is
thinking,
I,
am
going
to
add
line
37,
which
is
what's
that
hollow
access
and
amenity
improvements.
A
few
years
ago,
the
council
set
aside
funds
with
the
county
to
acquire
Wasatch
Hollow
and
create
a
usable
open
space
as
well
as
the
department.
The
past
couple
of
years,
the
neighborhood's
been
working
to
look
at
adding
to
pedestrian
access
points
right
now.
There's
one
access
point
into
the
into
the
wilder
or
the
the
the
Natural
Area
mean
one
legal
one,
one
legal
one
correct.
A
Then
you
have
other
fenced
off
places,
but
the
the
problem
is,
you
have
a
dangerous
issue
there,
because
there's
only
one
way
in
and
one
way
out,
Police
Department
has
talked
about.
You
know
their
concerns
with
the
safety
there
there's
not
another
exit.
So
this
one
of
the
requests
there
would
be
to
create
that
additional
pedestrian
area.
My
other
request
would
be
right
above
that
item
or
yeah
right
above
at
36,
Yael,
crest,
historic
district
signage.
A
B
And
the
funny
thing
is
we
redid
that
Road
like
right
up
until
this,
like
line
where
people
think
they're
the
boundary
is
for
Mill
Creek,
and
so
there's
like
curb
and
gutter
inside
whoo
I
can
complete
streets
like
a
block
away
from
them,
because
they're
sort
of
they
feel
like
they're
in
this
no-man's
land
and
it's
probably
a
block
or
so
long
I
mean
I,
would
like
for
us
to
at
least
put
it
on
the
list.
Please.
K
A
K
For
clarification,
which
number
was
that
number
44
before
and
then
the
other
one
for
me
would
be
the
number
50.
Is
the
community
park,
signage
and
wayfinding?
For
me,
it's
a
no
brainer,
because
it's
you've
got
funding
from
general
fund
as
well
as
impact
fee
eligibility.
So
and
it's
not
just
Westside
parks,
its
parks
that
need
funding
so
partnerships,
great
and.
J
J
Second,
one
is
49:
it's
the
connecting
corridor
for
Sorenson,
multicultural
and
a
Unity
Center.
Now
that
we
have
a
more
coherent
plan
about
using
both
of
those
together,
there's
not
a
good
reason
to
separate
them
since
they're
people
going
back
and
forth
anyway
between
a
back
walkway,
it
may
be
tied
into
a
large
discussion
about
seismic
needs
and
some
other
upgrades
for
that
entire
facility,
but
I
think
keep
it
on
a
radar
this
time.
Okay,.
A
A
G
A
L
L
L
A
We're
looking
at
a
few
million
dollars,
you
know
my
guess
is
it'll
be
between
probably
four
and
five
million,
but
let's
see
how
good
my
bad
math
skills
are
all
right.
So
we
know
what
we
have
to
work
with
now
and
we
know
we're
trying
to
get
councilmember
Wharton
followed
the
instructions
from
our
last
meeting,
which
is,
if
you
offer
a
few.
If
you
want
something
you
have
to
help
figure
out
where
the
money's
coming
from
so
he
has
done
that
he
gets
a
gold
star,
so
go
ahead
and
tell
us
your
proposal.
Okay,.
I
If
we
were
to
take
oh
it's
on,
but
if
we
were
to
take
items,
I
know
number
six:
the
line:
community,
nine
line
community
orchard
item,
number
11,
the
Richmond,
Park
community
garden
and
item
number
26,
the
Jordan
Park
event
grounds.
All
of
those
are
impact
be
eligible
and
we
have
an
additional
800,000
in
impact
fees.
I
If
you
add
those
up
that
gives
so
if
we
shift
those
to
impact
fees
instead
of
general
fund
dollars,
that
gives
forth
out
four
hundred
and
seventy
six
thousand
one
hundred
for
leaving
a
funding
gap
of
only
nineteen
thousand
eight
hundred
and
ninety
six
and
I
would
ask
that
we
use.
We
have.
We
currently
have
two
hundred
and
eighty
nine
thousand
three
hundred
and
sixty-seven
in
police
officer
vacancy
savings.
I
would
ask
that
we
fund
the
other
night
twenty
thousand
from
the
okay.
A
Okay,
great
ideas
now
you're
gonna
hate
me
when
I
tell
you
something
else:
fine,
so
now
what
we,
what
what
I
want
to
do
is
hear.
Where
else
we
can
take
money
from
so
using
your
formula
that
you
just
created,
because
what
I,
what
I
would
hate
to
do
is
just
you
know,
have
the
first
thing
off
the
list.
You
know
we
take
what
is
the
low-hanging
fruit
and
we
fund.
You
know
the
first
thing
and
then
we
don't
do
the
rest.
A
So
if
you're-
okay
with
this
and
you
I-
mean
it's
your
idea-
so
don't
think
that
I'm
trying
to
steal
it
all
away.
But
let's,
let's
now
create
a
separate
line.
We
can
have
that
four
hundred
and
seventy
six
thousand
one
hundred
and
four
and
then
the
the
police
officer
savings
we'll
keep
that
as
kind
of
the
the
contingent
account
that
we
need
that
will
build
up.
I'm
gonna
try
to
reach
the
amount
necessary
for
the
items
that
we
funded
here.
Is
that
fair?
Yes,
okay,.
I
L
The
amount
of
projects
that
the
council
just
identified
is
a
little
over
three
million
dollars.
Not
all
of
them
are
eligible
for
parks
impact
fees.
Several
of
them
are
okay,
in
addition
to
what
councilmember
Wharton
just
said,
that
would
free
up
in
additional
four
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
dollars
of
swapping
parks,
impact
fees
for
general
fund
dollars.
A
What
we
have
right
now,
we
know
that
we
have
3.4
million
in
park
impact
fees.
I
think
Marybeth
is
getting
a
little
nervous
as
we're
talking
about
all
this.
You
know
moving
money
or
so,
if
we
say
anything
wrong,
Marybeth,
let
us
know
which
of
the
I
at
which
items
on
our
new
unfunded
list
would
be
eligible
for
impact
fees.
All
right.
L
A
A
L
A
A
F
A
So
that
was
that
was
the
1.5
million
dollars
for
elevators
escalators
or
escalators
in
the
in
the
Leonardo
right.
Okay.
So,
if
that
so,
if
that
item
was
not
funded,
that
would
also
open
up
1.5
million
dollars,
but
that
would
be
general
fund.
That
would
be
the
general
fund
that
wouldn't
be
part
of.
That's
not
impact
fee
eligible,
correct,
okay,
okay,
so
the
might
my
hope
is
as
we're
trying
to
narrow
this
list
would
be.
E
L
Available
to
spend
balance
of
parks,
impact
fees
and
correct
and
an
update,
I
just
got
from
Mary
Beth.
The
3.4
million
does
include
the
1.3
million
proposed
to
be
spent,
but
does
not
include
the
3.4
million
proposed
to
be
Reis
coped
for
Pioneer
Park.
This
would
mean
2.1
million
of
parks.
Impact
fees
is
available
to
spend,
which
would
still
be
enough
to
cover
the
projects
the
council
just
identified.
We
received
different
answers
from
different
departments
about
this
amount,
which.
F
A
A
Which
other
project
another
project
that
parks
is
currently
looking
at,
that
can't
be
discussed.
E
E
A
Okay,
so
that
no
you're
good,
so
so
what
what
councilmember
Wharton
has
so
he
has,
he
has
pulled
up
for
a
point.
There
are
four
hundred
and
seventy
six
thousand
one
hundred
and
four
from
the
items
that
he
identified:
councilmember
Mendenhall
I'm,
taking
that
as
a
as
a
proposal
that
we
that
we
look
at
that
1.5
million.
As
am
I
understanding
you
correctly.
A
A
I
So
I
wanted
to
shift
item
six
11
and
26
from
general
funds
to
impact
fees,
and
that
was
those
three
projects
total
four
hundred
and
seventy
six
thousand
one
hundred
and
four
and
and
put
that
towards,
and
the
zoo
Gardens
improvements
and
that
would
leave
a
gap
of
nineteen
thousand.
Eight
hundred
and
ninety
six
and
I
would
propose
to
fund
that
gap
from
police
officer
vacancy
savings,
okay,
which
currently
has
two
hundred
eighty
nine
thousand
three
hundred
and
sixty
seven
and
then
there's
a
back-up
plan.
Okay,.
A
So
fair
enough,
so
the
four
hundred
and
seventy
six
thousand
dollars
that
you
would
shift
to
impact
fees
would
come
out
of
the
two
point.
1
million
dollars
correct
in
impact
fees,
which
means
that
that
cuts
into
what
that
would
cut
into
the
two
million
dollars
for
the
potential
acquisition
of
a
other
property.
F
I
A
J
J
L
J
A
M
So
what
I
would
caution
in
using
the
surplus
land
fund,
1.1
million?
It's
actually
a
pretty
low
balance
for
that,
and
we
use
about
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
from
that
each
year
to
provide
maintenance
for
the
properties
that
we
own.
If
you,
if
you
were
to
take
that
down
by
half,
we'd,
have
two
and
a
half
years
worth
of
funding
to
maintain
our
properties
unless
we
were
selling
something
else.
So.
M
M
G
F
The
install
new
escalators
at
the
old
library
and
I
appreciated
Ben's
update
on
our
our
packet
about
this
one
at
the
bottom
of
page
2.
It
talks
about
under
be
a
multi-tenant
plan
and
I
wondered.
My
question
to
my
straw
poll
is:
if
this
happens,
if
a
multi-tenant
plan
proceeds,
would
the
administration.
M
M
That's
one
of
the
reasons
that
this
is
such
a
high
priority
this
year
is
because
we
do
know
that
there's
a
desire
I
think
throughout
the
city,
from
both
the
administration
and
the
council
to
make
a
shift
at
the
Leo
and
in
order
for
us
to
do
that,
that
building
being
safe
and
functional
is
a
big
part
of
being
able
to
attract
tenants.
I
think.
F
The
fact
that
I
don't
know
if
my
peers
have
heard
about
this
but
I
haven't
heard
anything
about
in
the
form
of
a
briefing
or
a
small
group
meeting
about
the
plan
moving
forward
with
the
Leonardo,
and
so
at
this
point
this
is
the
most
information.
I
have
and
I
wanted
to
ask
if
the
city,
if
our,
if
the
yeah,
if
the
city
has
covered
any
expenses
such
as
public
utility
bills,
on
behalf
of
the
Leonardo,
that
should
have
been
covered
by
the
Leonardo
I.
M
Don't
know
the
answer
that
offhand,
but
we
are
in
the
middle
of
doing
a
study
to
look
at
what
it
would
take
to
create,
make
that
building
a
multi-tenant
building,
we're
in
the
process
of
that
right
now,
and
when
we
have
that
information,
we
will
come
back
to
Council
and
provide
a
briefing
on
that
to
give
you
additional
information
on
what
that
would
take
to
make
that
happen.
So
in.
L
F
Yeah
I
believe
that's
the
intent
and
I
appreciate
a
little
tiny
update
that
that
you're
working
on
that
in
the
meantime,
it
would
help
me
want
to
be
supportive
of
this
kind
of
a
major
expenditure
if
I,
better
understood
and
could
justify
to
the
public
what
the
future
of
that
building
holds
and
how
it
could
be
operating
differently
in
a
more
from
a
fiduciary
standpoint.
So
that
was
a
long
way
to
a
strawpoll.
Mr.
chair,
okay,.
A
So
you
would
still
like
to
proceed
with
a
strep
hole.
I
would
okay,
so
the
strap
hold
and
would
be
on
number
19
on
page
five,
the
installation
of
new
escalators
of
the
old
library
thumbs
up
that
you
would
like
to
reappropriation
dollars
or,
let's
see
1
1
million
five
hundred
and
forty
five
thousand
dollars
to
a
different
program.
Is
that
correct,
okay,
thumbs
up
that
you
support
moving
that
money
thumbs
down
that
you
oppose
it
and
that
passes
six
to
one?
A
A
I
Yeah
I
would
that
was
my
my
backup
plan.
So
thanks
Aaron
for
doing
the
heavy
lifting
on
that
and
so
again
I
would
I
would
propose
the
same
thing
in
terms
of
a
shift.
I'd
also
know
and
I
think
I
can
confirm
this
between
now
and
the
next
meeting
that
I
think
the
community
has
put
has
raised
over
ten
thousand
to
add
to
the
project.
So
if
we
can't
cover
the
extra
19.
I
B
The
the
playground
and
Pioneer
Park
there's
246
I,
there's
two
hundred
forty
six
thousand
dollars.
That's
budgeted
right
now
for
it
and
I
I
mean
we
read
doing
the
park,
it
seems
I,
don't
know
I
remember
we
had
talked
about.
Perhaps
we
have
not
funding
that
project
and
moving
those
that
project
is
somewhere
else.
I
don't
know.
I
would
support
that,
but.
A
G
A
A
G
A
Out
front:
we're
not
stop
pulling
the
funding
of
them.
Yet
we're
just
right
now
we're
just
I'm
still
trying
to
pull
all
the
money
together.
That's
yeah
I
got
chicken
yeah.
Does
that
and
then
I
bet
you
I
will
come
to
you
first.
Thank
you,
you're
welcome,
so
the
numbers
that
I
have
here
are
1
million
five
hundred
and
forty
five
thousand,
and
then
we
just
added
two
hundred
and
forty
six
thousand
mm-hm
correct
and
then
Ben.
How
much
else
did
you
say
we
had
so.
A
L
J
A
A
A
E
M
The
reality
of
the
situation
is
we're.
Gonna
have
to
sell
something
and
we're
gonna
have
to
get
real
about
the
fact
that
if
we're
gonna
continue
to
acquire
things
and
build
new
things,
we're
gonna
have
to
get
rid
of
some
of
the
stuff
that
we
have
I
mean
that's.
We
have
to
have
a
real
conversation
about
the
fact
that
that's
needs
are
always
greater
than
resources.
So,
oh,
my
god,
we
might
have
to
let
something
go
that
we
love
and
would
love
to
keep
but
I
didn't.
A
G
Of
information,
of
course,
you
can
use
general
fund
money.
You
can
put
that
any
time
into
into
this
is
interesting,
isn't
it
into
the
maintenance,
because
it's
the
city's
responsibility
to
maintain
all
of
those
properties?
So
absolutely
one
option
is
selling.
The
other
option
is
using
another
funding
source.
But
yes,
we
can't
just
keep
buying
new
things,
but
not
facing
the
piper
home.
K
That's
why
I
didn't
vote
on
the
surplus
land
account
I
mean
we're
having
this
these
conversations
about
all
of
these
city-owned
properties,
whether
it's
Warm,
Springs
or
Fisher
mansion
or
the
400
North
LDS,
former
chapel,
or
we're
looking
at
fleet
block
I
mean
the
list
goes
on
and
on
so
I
just
it
makes
me
extremely
nervous
that
we're
only
doing
200-thousand
allocation
really
for
every
two
years
for
maintaining
these
properties.
That's
nothing.
K
B
F
F
M
A
Jennifer
I
just
want
to
tell
you
that
is
music
to
my
ears,
because
that
is
precisely
what
this
council
has
been
asking
for
for
at
least
two
years
often,
and
it
actually
goes
back
even
before
that,
where
we've,
where
we've
been
asking
for
a
list
of
all
city-owned
properties
and
there's
been
quite
a
bit
of
pushback
so
I.
This
is
fantastic.
I
completely
concur
and
I'm
very
excited
to
have
that
discussion
and
to
see
that
list
and
I
want
to.
A
Yes,
yeah:
let's
now
again
we're
trying
to
get
through
for
night
out
against
your
night
at
it
against
crime,
or
so,
let's
yeah,
if
we
can
just
keep
it
to
five
minutes,
that'd
be
great.
Let's
come
back
at
4:20
and
then
when
we
come
back,
what
I
want
to
do
if
there,
if
there
are
no
additional
funding
amounts,
then
we'll
go
through
the
list
that
we
have
and
see.
If
we
compare
that
back.
C
C
A
B
Okay,
if
so
in
looking
at
things,
if
we
turn
to
item
47,
which
I
brought
up
of
three
thousand
South
from
Highland
to
fifteen
East,
it
is
a
basically
a
street
improvement.
Urban
gutter
we
I
was
just
talking
with
engineering
and
our
john
larson
from
streets
of
excel
from
engineering
that
road,
technically,
we
think,
may
or
may
not
be
half
salt
lake
and
half
Mill
Creek,
and
so
there
may
be
an
opportunity
to
partner
with
Mill
Creek,
as
we
are
continuing
the
our
discussions
and
in
working
together
to
have
good
fences
to
be
good
neighbors.
B
That
might
be
something
that
we're
able
to
work
with
Mill
Creek
on
and
Matt's
gonna
kind
of
dive
into
that
a
little
bit
and
also
into
breaking
down
exactly
how
much
things
would
be
for
what
the
constituents
are
asking
for.
So
what
I
would
propose?
Is
we
sort
of
put
an
asterisk
by
that
three
hundred
forty
three
thousand
five
hundred,
so
that
we
can
get
some
more
information
for
August,
20th
I?
Think
it's
important
to
fund
it.
L
I
just
want
to
add
that,
since
this
project
is
roadway
improvements,
you
could
also
use
Class
C
funds.
Most
of
the
Class
C
funds
are
currently
going
to
reconstructions
and
overlays,
which
the
roadway
selection
committee
would
decide.
You
could
pull
some
of
those
monies
specifically
for
this
amount.
Okay,.
B
And
so
that
might
be
an
option
too,
but
maybe
if
we
just
asterisk
it
and
come
back
to
it
for
xx
that
it
might
be
some
open
funding
depending
on,
if
we
kind
of
put
a
pin
in
it
and
see
what
we
want,
what
we
could
do
with
Mill
Creek
and
what
that
is-
and
it
may
be
that
we
actually
own
the
whole
Road
I'm,
not
sure
we're
gonna
get
some
more
information
about
that
for
to
the
20th.
So.
A
Councilmember
Fowler.
What
what
about
this?
My
only
hesitation
is
it
depending
that
it's
looking
like
we're
moving
pretty
quickly
on
some
of
this
stuff.
If
we're
able
to
get
most
of
this
settled
today,
I
worry
about
asterisk
in
anything
because
then
it
opens
has
potential
about
putting
everything
else.
Back
up
last
year,
the
sugarhouse
Community
Council
had
requested
funding
for
the
11th
east.
A
And
then
you
know
if
we
are
able
to
work
something
out
if
we
can
use
Class,
C
funds
or
something
else
you
know
we
can.
We
can
do
that,
but
you
know
at
least
the
community
would
know
that
yeah.
The
council
is
committed
to
looking
at
that
we're
already
working
to
see
if
we
can
come
up
with
some
of
those
improvements
in
our
negotiations
with
Mill
Creek
and
so,
and
you
know
we
would
remove
it
from
this
list.
But
you
know
with
the
understanding
that
it
would
be
funded
next
year.
Would
that
would
I
think.
B
That's
a
possibility
as
well
I
mean
if
we
can
have
a
pretty
clear,
strap
hole
that
we
would
be
committed
to
doing
this
next
year,
either
in
conjunction
with
Mill
Creek's
negotiations
or
just
on
our
own,
that
we
would
be
funding
this
for
next
year.
That's
similar,
as
you
said,
Charlie
to
what
we
did
with
11th
east,
would.
B
A
B
A
A
A
L
J
L
L
M
A
A
Okay,
so
are
there
other
items
on
the
unfund?
Well,
first
off,
do
we
want
it?
Do
we
want
it
limited
anything
else
from
the
funded
list,
councilmember
Johnston,
now
sorry
to
scratch,
myself!
Oh
okay,
I
know
someone
had
a
quite
or
someone
was
talking
about
the
community
orchard
mm-hmm,
which
is
funded
for
a
hundred
ninety
five
thousand
one
hundred
and
four.
J
Well,
mr.
chair
I
was
open
to
looking
at
it.
My
concern
is
that
it's
just
I'm
concerned
about
some
other
projects
as
well.
I,
guess
it's
what
some
other
projects,
the
the
carriage
house,
particularly
the
the
three
creeks
confluence
land,
is
actually
for
sale
contingent
to
that
other
Park.
If
we
don't
allocate
to
buy
it,
it
probably
goes
elsewhere.
C
L
A
L
L
A
A
Next
year,
like
eleventh
east
I,
know
this
does
cut
into
you
know
our
ability
to
fund
stuff
next
year,
but
that
happens
so
thumbs
up
that
we
fund
item
the
the
first
phase
of
item
37
285,000
$66
for
two
pedestrian
access
points,
new
bridge
and
stares
at
Wasatch
hollow,
and
that
we
fund
two
hundred
and
five
thousand
seven
hundred
and
sixty
for
next
year
thumbs
up
that
we
support
that
thumbs
down
that
we
puzzle
great.
That
is
unanimous.
Okay,
so
that
one
is
off
the
list.
Chris.
I
F
A
G
A
A
We
know
that
we
have
123
thousand
dollars
in
parks,
impact
fees
right,
okay,
so
let's
go
through
and
and
fund
in
and
vote
on,
whether
we
fund
it
because
the
parks
impact
fee
could
also
be
used
for
number
thirty-seven
that
we
just
voted
on
for
Wasatch
Hollow,
and
so
what
we
can
do
is
figure
out
what
we're
gonna
fund
and
then
we
can.
We
can
figure
out.
You
know
how
to
allocate
the
that
123
thousand
okay.
I
L
I
A
Here's
the
thing,
though,
yeah
the
four
hundred
ninety
six
thousand
dollars
we
can
vote.
If
you
want
it,
let's
vote
on
funding
all
of
it.
Okay,
we
can,
then
you
know.
However,
we
allocate
or
you
know
we
have
staff
allocate
the
the
impact
fee
they
can.
They
can
reconcile
that,
but
because
we
do
have,
how
much
do
we
have
left?
A
K
A
A
G
A
J
J
G
A
L
One
point
four:
to
two
million
and
just
to
clarify
the
red
amount
and
Parks
impact
fees.
That's
the
remaining
amount
that
would
be
added
into
CIP,
because
during
the
annual
budget,
that
hundred
and
twenty
three
thousand
is
in
excess
of
what
you
originally
put
into
CIP
this
fiscal
year.
So
during
the
next
budget,
amendment
will
add
those
in
so
it's
not
that
you
don't
have
that
money,
it's
just
that
we
need
to
add
it
in
the
accounting
step
later.
Okay,
counsel,.
F
F
A
F
G
A
L
A
F
L
F
L
F
A
I
L
A
B
K
L
A
A
K
A
F
B
B
A
J
A
J
J
J
J
F
A
K
A
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A
K
K
A
A
A
E
A
A
K
A
Okay,
do
we
guys
want
to
stick
a
pin
in
this
until
next
week?
Well,
you
got
I'm
looking
you
guys
have
the
Night
Out
against
crime
said
yeah
James,
Amy
Andrew,
so
that's
up
to
you.
Do
you
want
to
stop
tonight?
Okay,
all
right!
So
the
items
that
that
we've
agreed
to
fund
this
year,
our
lines
40
to
41.