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A
A
A
B
You
Bryan,
so
Bryan
gave
a
good
introduction
to
this
project.
It
is
a
request
to
close
a
portion
of
East
Hillside
Avenue,
where
it
borders
the
rubens
property
located
at
239,
North's
East,
Capitol
Street,
there's
a
little
confusion
with
some
of
the
addressing,
because
this
particular
property
has
multiple
addresses.
B
C
B
Exactly
the
home
is
situated
very
close
to
that
actual
property
line
and
I'm
sure
you've
seen
this
more
times
than
you
can
count,
but
it's
a
common
misperception
across
the
city,
that
of
where
your
actual
property
line
is
in
many
cases
across
the
city,
different
neighborhoods.
The
property
line
is
not
at
the
back
of
the
sidewalk.
It
is
often
in
set
in
from
that
and
that's
why
we
get
into
all
of
these
issues
with
encroachments
into
the
public
right
away.
B
This
is
a
quick
view
of
the
the
front
of
the
home.
You
can
see
they're
kind
of
two
pillars
and
a
gate
at
the
main
entrance
to
the
home.
The
wall
is
kind
of
covered,
lower
part
of
the
wall.
Where
acts
more
as
a
retaining
wall
to
the
right
or
to
the
west,
it's
kind
of
covered
in
ivy.
It
looks
pretty
dark
in
this
photo
and
then
to
the
left
in
the
photo
or
to
the
east.
B
B
B
Vacation
of
the
land,
whereas
a
closure
is
temporary,
this
is
happening
because
the
wall
and
the
accessory
structures
are
located
within
the
public
right
away
and
they
have
existed
there
for
decades.
A
typical
solution
is
a
lease
agreement
with
the
city
and
a
payment
of
like
an
annual
rental
fee.
If
you
will
for
that
land,
however,
the
applicant
and
in
addition,
the
applicant
wishes
to
keep
the
wall
and
building
for
security
purposes,
so
the
other
option
would
be
to
remove
the
wall
and
things
in
terms
of
public
comment.
B
We
received
a
few
public
comments
that
this
sets
a
negative
precedent
for
similar
conditions
throughout
the
city
and
we've
also
received
kind
of
kind
of
5050
support,
as
long
as
it
doesn't
impact
the
pedestrian
or
traffic,
and
maybe
the
applicant
can
explain
a
little
bit
more
their
long-term
vision
for
the
property,
but
walking
down
the
sidewalk.
You
wouldn't
see
any
physical
change
if
this
were
approved.
B
B
Planning.
Stop
and
Planning
Commission
did
not
find
that
there's
any
public
policies
that
will
be
explicitly
accomplished
through
this
street
vacation.
However,
it
doesn't
violate
any
public
policies
and
further
the
city
would
benefit
financially
from
the
sale
of
the
property
to
the
applicant
and,
as
such,
the
Planning
Commission
recommended
approval.
D
E
You
very
much
I'm,
not
sure
this
is
well
it's
a
question
that
you
may
not
be
able
to
answer
at
this
point,
but
any
sense
of
how
we
get
to
this
place.
Where
we
have
a.
We
have
a
building
that
it
sort
of
encroached
to
the
on
the
probably
right-of-way,
but
actually
has
meters
on
a
wall
in
the
public
right-of-way,
and
this
happens
over
time
and
multiple
decisions.
I'm
guessing,
but.
B
E
C
So
really
here
we're
being
asked
to
make
an
exception
to
this
policy,
which
is
a
policy.
Isn't
it
not
a
guideline
for
what
is
pot,
what
what
is
probably
historic,
misuse
of
power,
perhaps
by
a
previous
owner,
so
I'm
wondering
about
like
and
I
know
we
have
the
property
owner
here,
I'm
sure
we'll
invite
that
person
up
in
a
minute
to
speak.
But
what's
the
purpose
of
this
I
mean,
if
it
is,
are
we
looking
at
changes
to
the
property?
I?
C
B
You
know
in
and
around
their
property,
especially
with
their
home,
being
so
close
to
their
property
line
or
so
close
to
the
street
that
they
wanted
to
keep
the
wall
and
the
gate
for
their
own
security
reasons,
but
that's
kind
of
what
triggered
them
seeking
a
street
vacation
instead
of
a
lease
agreement
they
kind
of
want.
Their
idea
was
that
they
want
to
kind
of
right
the
wrong
and
their
solution
was
to
seek
a
street
vacation,
as
opposed
to
entering
into
a
lease
agreement
with
the
city.
C
B
Understand
what
you're
asking
the
property
immediately
to
the
west
is
on
the
corner
of
State
Street
and
East
hillside.
So
there's
only
one
property
to
the
west
and
the
right-of-way
on
the
west
side
of
State
Street
is
narrower.
I
can
remember
exactly
what
it
is,
but
I
want
to
say
it's
closer
to
like
55
feet
on
the
west
side.
So
this
just
this
small
block,
is
strangely
wider
between
State
Street
and
East
Capitol
Street
I'll.
B
G
F
B
F
B
In
saying,
I
understand
yeah,
so
if
I
disrupts
the
name
and
I
can
look
up
what
the
front
yard
setback
is
for
RMF,
35
or
if
there
is
one
so
if
they
in
the
future
decided
they
wanted
to
tear
it
down
and
build
something
else,
they
could
I
guess
conceivably
build
closer.
If
that
front
setback
is
less
than
10
feet,
but,
as
you
can
see
in
the
aerial,
the
home
is
pretty
close
to
the
existing
front
yard
property
line,
though,
keep
in
mind
that
the
aerial
has
a
little
bit
of
distortion.
E
B
E
B
Idea
was
to
keep
as
much
as
the
water
as
much
of
the
waterline
on
city
property
as
possible,
though
there
is
an
easement
and
that
should
be
depicted
in
the
survey
drawing
which
should
be
in
your
transmittal
I.
Don't
know
what
page
this
is,
but
towards
the
end
of
your
transmittal,
there
is
a
survey
which
shows
a
water
line
that
cuts
across
the
east
end
of
the
property.
Okay,
on
a
diagonal.
G
Yes,
I
this
property
I
can
tell.
You
is
very
strange
indeed
I
think
when
I
was
trying
to
find
your
front
door,
I
ended
up
in
your
backyard
and
yeah.
Then
there
was
like
a
pool,
and
you
know,
or
do
you
have
the
pool
back
there
yeah?
Okay,
that's
what
I
thought
and
I
was
like
this
is
not.
This
is
definitely
not
right.
G
G
Well,
no
I
mean
yeah,
I
saw
I
stayed,
you
know
for
a
while,
but
I
didn't
think
anyone
noticed.
No,
it
was
hot
you
guys
it
was
a
very
hot
day.
No,
but
it's
it's
just
this
weird
little
I
don't
know
some
might
call
it
a
peninsula
and
the
irregular
peninsula,
but
I
think
that
anything
that
we
can
do
to
try
to
bring
this
into
conformity.
I.
G
B
C
H
Thank
you
so
much.
My
name
is
Jennifer
Rubin
and
my
husband
and
I
are
the
owners
of
this
unique
property
and
the
history
that
I
think
is
important.
The
the
Planning
Commission
had
a
lot
of
questions
because,
as
you
look
at
the
property,
the
things
that
were
done
in
the
70s
and
the
80s
included
changes
such
as
knocking
down
two
garages
for
each
property.
The
front
gate
that
Molly
was
showing
earlier
was
actually
the
original
driveway
and
garage
access
to
the
239
property
on
the
back.
So
that.
H
Any
way
the
you
know
when,
when
we
found
this
house,
it
had
been
pretty
much
abandoned
for
almost
two
years
sitting
on
the
market
and
it
was
completely
overgrown
and
the
whole
house
was
in
a
state
of
dishabille
meant
and
I
had
no
idea
being
a
very
naive
home
buyer.
When
the
realtor
said
there
are
approved
plans
that
the
previous
owner
has
already
submitted,
and
there
will
be
no
problem
adding
a
garage,
here's
the
purchase,
price
and
I
had
no
clue.
We
purchased
the
house
in
2013.
H
It
took
two
and
a
half
years
to
get
a
permit
approved
in
order
to
put
a
garage
in
in
that
time
period
our
vehicles
from
parking
on
the
street,
because
there
is
no
driveway
on
that
end
of
the
house.
Our
vehicles
were
burglarized
multiple
times
in
the
time
that
we
lived
in
the
home
since
2013,
the
police
have
been
dispatched
almost
two
dozen
times
from
our
front
door
being
kicked
in
during
construction
from
our
garage
being
broken
from
the
storage
unit
being
broken
from
homeless
people
sleeping
on
the
front
porch,
with
everything
wide
open.
H
As
you
can
see
behind
the
home,
with
the
yellow
line
that
borders
going
to
the
back
of
the
compound,
it
is
all
open,
so
homeless,
people,
transients
drug
addicts,
love
to
camp
out
in
my
backyard
I
had
no
idea
when
we
purchased
this
house
that
security
was
going
to
be
an
issue.
I
had
no
idea
until
I
started,
researching
the
property
history
after
I
got
notification
from
I
think
it
was
the
Zoning
Commission
that
we
were
in
violation
of
the
wall.
I
had
no
idea
how
the
wall
got.
H
There,
I
had
no
idea
when
we
purchased
the
property
that
there
were
actually
four
water
meters
and
three
power
meters
and
they
are
located
all
over
the
properties
in
the
70s.
The
East
portion
of
the
wall,
as
well
as
those
structures
either
in
the
late
70s
or
early
80s
before
the
homes,
were
combined.
Those
walls
existed
the
earliest
photos
and
I
believe
they're
in
your
packet.
H
Tom
Sieg
had
submitted
an
application
to
combine
the
two
homes,
because
when
the
house
next
to
him,
went
on
the
market
he
purchased
it.
It
was
a
classic
tudor-style
house.
He
submitted
an
application
to
convert
the
Tudor
style
to
a
Spanish
colonial
style
of
house,
the
Spanish
Revival
house.
The
application
was
originally
denied
he
appealed
and
then
it
was
approved
and
it
was
approved
in
the
planning
notes
that
I
found
going
back
digging
through
the
Tax
Commission
records
and
everywhere
that
I
could
find
in
this
city
that
had
historical
data
I.
H
Was
there
trying
to
understand
how
I
managed
to
get
myself
in
the
position
that
I
was
in
thinking
that
our
front
yard
was
behind
the
wall?
That
was
there
when
we
purchased
the
house
and
in
1988
before
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Committee,
as
well
as
the
historical
landmark
committee.
The
people
on
that
committee
noted
their
concern
about
the
oddity
of
the
length
of
the
house
and
they
also
noted
the
concern
of
the
change
in
elevation,
because
there
is
a
natural
incline
of
the
hill
going
east
and
the
suggested
movement
from
the
committee
was
okay.
H
H
H
It
would
allow
me
to
do
a
couple
of
things
based
on
the
number
of
police
activity
and
the
fact
that
I
don't
feel
safe
in
my
own
home.
It
will
allow
me
to
finally
finish
the
landscaping
it
will.
Allow
me
to
be
able
to
restore
some
of
the
historical
splendor
of
the
house
which,
since
we
finished
construction,
I,
have
not
been
able
to
do
anything
because
I
did
not
want
to
spend
the
money
in
the
design
of
being
able
to
my
house
is
an
embarrassment
to
me.
A
H
There's
already
the
wall
in
I,
wouldn't
disturb
any
of
that,
like
that
that
has
there
it's
important
to
me,
and
it
was
important
to
my
husband
when
we
bought
the
property
we
loved
the
Mediterranean,
look
and
feel
of
Spanish
homes.
I
want
to
be
able
to
continue
and
finish
that
off,
so
that
it's
not
an
eyesore
for
my
neighbors,
so
that
it's
not
an
eyesore
for
me
and
I
also
want
to
prevent
access
from
the
side
yard,
which
I
understand
why
you
are
confused
on
accessing
the
house.
It
just
invites
riffraff
because
there.
H
The
house,
the
house,
is
so
bizarre
with
so
many
entrances,
and
so
many
there
are
four
physical
street
addresses
and
being
able
to
purchase
the
house.
The
reason
that
we
didn't
want
to
lease
is
because
the
property
is
weird:
it's
odd
we're
going
to
have
a
hard
enough
time
selling.
It
then
to
try
to
explain
to
a
potential
buyer
ten
years
down
the
road
five
years
down
the
road,
and
we
decided
to
move
that.
A
So
the
council
members
we're
set
to
Woodward
set
to
hold
the
public
hearing
on
April
23rd,
we'll
set
that
date
tonight.
If
do
any
of
you
have
any
other
questions.
I
know
that
this
is
a
unique
application,
one
that
you
know
hopefully
would
not
set
a
precedent.
You
know
or
other
things,
but
unfortunately
I,
think
you're
in
a
position
where
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
you're
dealing
with
are
issues
that
were
done
prior
or
done.
A
You
know,
prior
to
you
ever
acquire
in
this
home,
so
personally,
I
think
that
it
makes
sense
at
this
point.
You
know
it's
unfortunate
that
that
we're
in
this
position,
but
we
are-
and
it's
unfortunately
you're
in
the
position,
but
you
are,
and-
and
hopefully
this
will
allow
you
to
finish
the
landscaping
that
needs
to
be
done
not
just
for
your
property
but
for
the
surrounding
properties
as
well,
so
great
if
there
are
no
further
questions.
Thank
you
for
coming
today
and
then
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
Thank.
I
I
The
second
part
to
your
discussion
in
July.
There
are
times
when
the
administration
has
to
do
a
temporary
closure
due
to
maybe
safety
hazards,
such
as
memory
grove,
there's
a
section
they
can
get
I
see
and
become
a
public
safety.
Hazard
or
they're
gave
an
example
of
having
to
close
Hermann
Frank's
park.
For
twenty
fourth
of
July
celebration,
the
council
took
a
straw
poll
and
was
comfortable
with
the
14
day
limitation
on
those
temporary
closures.
I
I
Wetlands
preserve
a
BMX
bike
park
in
parties,
historic
Nature
Park
in
certain
areas
in
parties,
historic,
Nature,
Park
and
the
administration
has
brought
you
back
the
proposed
ordinance
with
those
listed
in
ordinance,
so
that
will
help
Salt,
Lake,
County,
Animal
Services
to
enforce,
and
then
the
last
part
of
your
briefing
you
just
asked
for
a
higher
level
of
some
type
of
public
engagement
as
off
leash
areas
are
being
designated
Alyson
and
I
have
prepared
you
some
strop
holes,
so
I
don't
know
where
you
want
to
go
with
that.
Mr.
A
K
D
K
K
C
L
Welcome
to
jump
in
we're
gonna
pass
this
hot
potato
back
and
forth.
I
think
that
what
we're
trying
to
respond
to
is
that
the
council's
desire
to
have
a
say
in
these,
so
that
it's
not
entirely
administrative
and
I,
think
that's
appropriate
I.
Think
that
that's
right
and
even
though
the
process
is
not
very
efficient
in
terms
of
time.
L
I
think
that,
in
order
for
us
to
have
that
kind
of
communication
back
and
forth
with
the
this
body,
we
have
to
allow
that
to
occur
and
I
think
that
it's
important
for
us
to
to
know
that.
The
reason
that
we're
coming
back
to
this
to
the
council
with
this
resolution
is
that
we're
actually
encountering
issues
in
creating
dog
parks
because
of
the
rules
established
in
resolution
resolution
52
we're
finding
that,
in
order
to
expand
the
dog
park,
the
need
at
dog
parks
throughout
our
city,
which
we
we
recognize.
L
You
know
the
need,
and
in
fact
part
of
this
update
is
to
put
one
two
three
four,
five,
six
doc
Park
areas
designated
areas
that
we
have
put
into
temporary
service.
They
have
exceeded
their
one
year
trial
period
and
we
want
to
actually
memorialize
those
six
areas
into
city
code,
and
so
you
know
all
of
this
is
in
an
effort
to
help
us
kind
of
cut
through
the
bureaucracy
and
get
to
the
point
where
we
can
administrative
Lee
created
much
like
we
do
with
any
other
needed
parks
amenity
right.
L
So
we
don't
have
a
resolution
53
when
we
want
to
create
a
baseball
field,
for
example
right.
So
it's
becoming
a
little
bit
cumbersome
because
we've
never
been
able
to
establish
the
parks
for
dogs,
Advisory
Council.
That
was
supposed
to
be
sort
of
a
cooperative
agreement
between
citizens
and
the
city
that
never
worked
out.
L
We've
never
been
able
to
find
required
sponsor
agreements
for
these
off
leash
areas
where
they
were
gonna
voluntarily
fill
the
dog
bags
and
clean
up
things,
and
you
know,
do
all
of
the
outreach
and
then
then
there's
no
direction
that
we
have
when
recommended
areas
by
citizens,
don't
have
maybe
they're
not
feasible
for
financial
or
other
reasons,
environmental
reasons
right.
So
there's
no
direction.
Resolution
52
doesn't
give
us
any
direction
when
those
issues
come
to
light,
and
so
we're
actually
trying
to
make
it
easier
for
us
to
establish
dog
parks
throughout
the
city.
L
D
Respond
to
your
request,
as
Lisa
was
talking.
I
was
thinking
about
this
so
that
we
can
close
a
city
park
if
it's
unsafe.
What
can't
happen?
Is
it's
not
a
law
when
so
in
ordinance,
it
becomes
a
law
and
they
can
cite
people
for
breaking
that
law.
So
if
we
closed
an
area
because
it
was
unsafe,
we
could
do
that.
It
just
wouldn't
be
an
ordinance
that
it's
closed
right.
So.
K
Whatever
the
issue
is
so
that
30
days
at
least
gives
you
time
that,
if
we're
coming
up
and
saying
you
know,
we
might
need
more
than
30
days
at
least
there's
a
little
bit
more
time
than
two
weeks
to
try
to
get
in
front
of
us
to
say.
There's
this
emergency
thing
that
we
need
to
deal
with
right
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that
was
possible.
I'm,
throwing
this
out
there
before
you
jump
in
Alison,
sorry,
but
the
other
thing
I
was
thinking
about
when
I
was
reading.
K
K
Yeah
this
adopting
a
contingent
contingency
that
would
require
the
administration
to
provide
30
days
for
the
City
Council
to
object
to
any
designation
on
an
off-leash
area.
It's
number
two,
as
our
policy
questions
on
page
three,
and
then
we
go
down
a
little
bit
further
from
there
on
page
four
and
it's
number
five
that
talks
about
the
12-month
test
period.
K
K
L
K
D
K
I,
just
I
I
would
just
I'm
really
trying
to
streamline
it,
because
it
does
seem
silly
to
come
to
us
every
time.
There's
an
idea
to
have
a
dog
park
if
you've
already
received
the
input.
That
said,
I
think
it's
necessary
that
we
allow
that
input
and
have
some
sort
of
because
they
can
be
somewhat
divisive
right
and
so
and.
K
D
D
D
That
could
I
add
briefly
councilmember
Fowler
with
respect
to
the
14-day
period.
I
think
the
intention
and
YouTube
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
the
ordinance
is
written
in
a
way
that
it
would
not.
The
public
services
would
not
have
to
come
before
the
council
in
a
in
a
council
meeting.
The
notice
could
be
given
by
email
for
example,
and
so
that
would
be
idea
what
that
is,
it's
a
little
more
flexible.
They
don't
they're
not
stuck
by
not
being
able
to
get
on
an
agenda.
Thanks
council.
C
L
It's
interesting
because
that's
one
area
that
resolution
52
is
silent
on
as
well
right.
So
we
don't
have
this
like
established
feedback
loop,
but
I
think
that
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
with
this
change
is
to
say
that
we
are
receiving
feedback
and
it
is
important
for
the
council
to
receive
that
feedback
and
so
that
30
days
allows
us.
We
hope
to
bring
what
we've
heard
to
the
council
and
then
open
it
up
for
public
comment
and
when
we
come.
L
And
it's
important
to
note
to
the
the
dog
parks
that
were
recommending
to
memorialize
in
in
ordinance
as
as
being
established,
we
didn't
receive
negative
feedback.
That
doesn't
mean
I
mean
overwhelmingly.
We
had
positive
feedback
from
all
of
the
ones
that
were
trying
to
designate,
and
so
it
doesn't
mean
that
we
wouldn't
receive
that,
and
it
doesn't
mean
that
we
shouldn't
provide
for
that.
What
we're
saying
is
that
we
we're
recognizing
the
need,
we're
providing
it
in
a
12-month
trial
and
so
far
we're
recommending
seven
new
areas
be
designated
in
all.
C
It's
not
the
recommended
areas
that
I
I'm,
actually
supportive
of
solidifying
those
I'm
just
thinking
about
going
forward
and
new
areas
that
we
haven't
contemplated
yet
and
making
sure
that
we
have
a
process
to
receive
both
the
feedback.
The
public
feedback,
that's
come
through
the
parks
department
or
be
able
to
ask
the
police
department
to
respond
with
some
calls
for
service
in
the
air.
I,
don't
know
what
kind
of
feedback
we
might
want,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
chance
to
review
that
and
respond
to
residents,
as
they
elected
official.
D
Our
web
page,
we
do
have
a
site
that
says
comments
on
dog
parks
and
we
request
that
they
give
us
those
via
our
email
site
that
we
have
so
we
can
receive
feedback
that
way
and
then
also
we
have
gone
to
Community
Council
meetings.
Multiple
time
usually
we'll
go
to
a
community
council
meetings
once
to
talk
about
where
the
dog
park
would
be,
and
then
again
at
the
end.
D
I
Sorry
can
I
add
some
clarity.
Maybe
was
we're
causing
your
confusion.
So
those
are
the
two
options.
You
asks
council
staff
to
come
back
with
some
options
to
help
you
preserve
that
policymaking
authority.
So
our
two
options
are,
you
can
still
implement.
You
know,
adopt
every
off-leash
area
into
city
code
which
would
require
them
to
bring
it
back
to
you
or
you
could
do
a
contingency
in
the
code
saying
you
have
30
days
either
say
yes
or
no
I
mean
you
know.
F
This
is
a
tool
that
we've
used
a
few
times
where
a
department
really
needs
to
have
the
flexibility
to
act
just
from
a
practical
point
of
view,
as
you
were
talking
about,
and
so
what
it
does
is
preserve
the
opportunity
for
the
council
to
object
or
to
insert
itself
there
to
convene
more
public
input.
So
it's
a
tool.
F
We've
used
it
a
little
bit
with
the
airport
on
taxicab
fees
and
I,
can't
remember
what
else
but
gives
you
just
that
one
sort
of
double
check
and
then,
if,
if
you're,
seeing
the
feedback
is
positive,
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
it,
or
maybe
one
council
member
prefers
on
every
dog
off
leash
issue
to
have
a
public
hearing.
It's
then
just
a
discretion
of
the
body.
A
All
right,
okay,
seeing
no
further
questions.
We
do
not
have
we're
not.
We
don't
have
to
set
a
public
hearing
for
this,
however,
because
of
the
amount
of
interest
the
we've
given
this
and
that
it
has
received
in
the
past,
I
would
like
to
set
a
public
hearing
and
if
we
could
amend
our
our
consent
agenda
to
do
that
tonight,
to
set
the
date
for
April
23rd
all.
A
A
Any
any
questions
concerns
with
that.
Okay,
thank
you
all
for
your
work.
Thank
you.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
ordinance.
Regarding
budget
amendment
number
five
for
fiscal
year,
2018
and
19.
This
is
a
follow-up
discussion
been
led
key
from
the
council
office
will
join
us
at
the
table
to
lead
out
on
this
discussion,
followed
by
Mary
Beth
Thompson,
our
chief
financial
officer
and
John
Vike,
the
budget
director
for
the
city.
M
This
is
a
follow-up
briefing.
The
council
is
holding
a
public
hearing
on
the
budget
amendment
this
evening
and
potential
action
is
scheduled
for
April
23rd.
At
the
last
briefing,
we
will
pick
it
up
at
item
a
six.
This
is
a
request
for
just
over
two
hundred
and
fifty
two
thousand
dollars
for
projected
deficits
for
the
fiscal
year
in
parks
and
public
lands
specific
to
water
and
electricity
budgets.
The
two
hundred
and
fifty
two
thousand
is
split,
one
hundred
and
fourteen
thousand
for
electricity,
and
almost
one
hundred
and
thirty-eight
thousand
for
water.
M
This
situation
has
occurred
in
recent
years
as
well.
However,
in
those
years
the
Public
Services
Department
was
able
to
shift
funds
from
other
divisions
and
programs
to
cover
the
shortfall
they
report.
This
is
not
possible
this
fiscal
year
the
problems
are
related
to
fiscal
year.
2016
ESCO
contracts
and
I
just
want
to
note
that
this
is
separate
from
the
Gulf
ESCO,
which
is
item
d6.
In
this
budget
amendment
there
are
three
or
four
esko's
that
the
city
has.
A
M
N
M
The
Department
of
Public
Services
mentions
that
part
of
the
difficulty
is
that
there
have
been
annual
rate
increases
of
three
to
four
percent,
but
their
budget
has
not
seen
corresponding
increases,
which
is
pinching
the
amount
of
money
and
how
far
it
can
go.
There
have
also
been
installations
of
more
accurate
water
meters
by
public
utilities.
M
The
administration
looked
at
potentially
refinancing
the
ESCO
debt.
However,
there
will
be
no
significant
reduction
in
the
interest
rate,
so
those
efforts
are
not
being
pursued
at
this
time.
There
are
a
couple
policy
questions
for
the
council
to
to
consider
about
whether
the
administration
has
any
plans
to
use
this
tool
in
the
future,
as
well
as
how
to
budget
for
these
uncertain
utility
costs
in
the
next
fiscal
year
budget,
especially
since
hot
dry
summers
or
more
extreme
swings
in
the
climate
appear
to
be
the
new
normal.
A
Okay,
before
you
move
forward
on
the
ESCO
going
back
to
that
council
members,
I
would
like
to
schedule
some
time
for
a
more
in-depth
briefing
on
all
of
the
ESCOs
that
we
have
and
just
to
hear
what
our
options
are,
what
the
timeframe
is
on
them
and
what
can
be
done
to
improve
those,
because
until
we
figure
that
out
we're
gonna
be
having
this
same
discussion.
Mr.
C
I
think
that's
a
great
idea
and
I'd
really
be
curious
to
see,
if
maybe
even
through,
National
League
of
Cities.
If
there's
some
resources
for
cities
experiencing
similar
disappointments
with
ESCO
funds,
I
kind
of
doubt
were
the
only
ones
here
and
I'd
like
to
see
how
other
cities
are
handling
those
leaks
in
the
system.
Right.
A
M
The
council
addressed
item
a7
at
the
last
briefing.
This
is
the
new
position
at
the
airport.
Unanimous
straw
poll
authorized
authorized
early
higher
approval.
The
next
item
is
a
8,
and
this
is
related
to
the
census
coordinator
position
that
the
council
authorized
in
the
fiscal
year
19
annual
budget.
M
The
administration
is
requesting
that
the
position
originally
envisioned
as
a
contract
position
instead
be
added
to
the
staffing
document
as
a
regular
full-time
employee
and
in
attachment
3.
You
can
see
the
job
description.
The
administration
reports
that
the
county's
complete
count
committee
has
already
worked
with
the
city
and
that
the
census
coordinator
would
can
would
also
work
with
that
County
group
and
the
Gartner
Policy,
Institute
and
other
city
employees.
One
of
the
focuses
would
be
developing
public
information
and
building
community
awareness
for
hard
to
count
populations.
M
The
ims,
department
and
GIS
employees
have
already
worked
with
the
local
update
of
census,
addresses
call
DeLuca.
There
are
a
couple
rounds
of
luca's
to
make
sure
that
the
census
addresses
match
what
the
city
has
on
file
and
there
will
be
additional
rounds
of
that,
but
the
first
has
already
occurred.
An
IMS
and
GIS
employees
already
facilitated
the
cross-referencing
there's
also
an
update
on
the
fully-loaded
cost
of
this
position.
It
was
$80,000
estimated
in
the
annual
budget
and
the
administration
reports.
M
F
And
we
have
worked
with
the
mayor's
office
closely
on
on
this.
The
one
thing
I
didn't
think
to
ask
before
is
obviously
$80,000,
even
though
it's
an
eighty-seven
thousand
dollar
position
per
year,
$80,000
is
more
than
they'll
need
from
now
til
the
end
of
the
year.
So
would
it
make
sense?
I
know
the
$80,000
is
already
there,
but
if
the
council
wanted
tree,
they
could
just
back
out
some
of
that
money
and
put
it
into
a
fund
balance
or
something
right.
They
could
that's
correct.
M
If
there
are
no
other
questions
that
takes
us
to
item
a
9,
this
is
a
request
for
37
thousand
dollars
from
fund
balance
for
a
engineering
study
and
water
analysis
of
the
Warm
Springs
historic,
plunge
site.
There
are
two
areas
of
study:
$25,000
would
go
to
the
structural
evaluation
and
$12,000
would
go
for
the
water
analysis,
which
would
look
at
the
water
quality
the
flow,
how
many
Springs
and
the
existing
infrastructure,
as
well
as
the
feasibility
of
turning
back
on
to
reactivate
the
swimming
pools.
J
A
F
D
Hello,
I'm
Lonnie,
Erickson,
guff
housing,
a
Neighborhood,
Development
real
estate
services
is
within
our
division
and
Dan
rip
would
be
here
at
the
table
if
you
were
not
in
San
Diego
right
now.
I
am
familiar
with
both
engineering
was
a
2006
study
and
I
apologize.
I
do
believe
we
have
that,
but
it's
like
a
very,
very
large
document
and
I
think
when
I
tried
to
send
it
to
Bennett,
wouldn't
go
through
nicely.
We
can
get
that
for
you
very
easily.
D
D
D
D
C
C
Who
knows
what
other
things
we
don't
know
about,
but
it
I'm
sure
there's
a
can
of
worms
that
we
would
discover
from
doing
this
kind
of
update
to
our
study
on
it,
but
I'm
supportive
of
knowing
what
our
assets
are
and
what
it
would
take
to
make
them
viable
or
making
decisions
to
not
pursue
that.
But
we
need
the
information
in
order
to
decide
what
we
would
do
next.
J
Am
fully
in
favor
of
this
as
well
as
long
as
we
have
a
maintenance
idea
around
it
as
well.
I
think
that
when
we
always
look
at
these
facilities,
we
were
always
talking
about
maintenance
and
I
can
tell
you
that
in
that
area
of
the
neighborhood
I
am
I
am
wholly
invested
and
I.
That
has
been
a
drag
on
the
community
for
decades,
since
the
children
museum
left
so
looking
forward.
J
I
know
I
can't
believe
that
we've
never
done
a
water
study
before
I
mean
we've
held
it
for
since
2002
I
think
is
when
the
Children's
Museum
moved
out.
That's
you
know,
that's
that's
decades.
So
I
know
that
word
its
deferred
maintenance
and
more
deferred
maintenance,
and
we
have
a
Trane
shop.
That's
leasing
the
basement
and
that's
it.
A
To
that
point,
councilmember
I,
thank
you
for
bringing
up
the
maintenance
piece,
because
that
is
something
I
think
we
need
to
address
on
every
application
and
every
department
that
is
watching
this
for
any
future
issues
that
come
before
the
council.
This
is
something
that
that
I
will
be
asking
other
council
members
will
also
be
asking
what
the
maintenance
plan
is
going
to
be
what
the
long-term
funding
options
are
going
to
be.
I.
A
Do
think
that
you
know
if
we're
able
to
resurrect
this
facility,
it
could
be
a
great
asset
but
understanding
that
there
will
be
some
substantial
cost
associated
with
it.
We
just
need
to.
We
need
to
know
exactly
what
we're
getting
into
as
a
council
before
we
agree
to
move
anything
forward.
So
I
think
this
is
a
good
example.
A
I,
don't
necessarily
just
wanted
to
single
out
this
one
issue,
but
it's
an
issue
that
that
we've
been
dealing
with
a
lot
regularly
and
that
that's
the
question
of
maintenance,
an
ongoing
funding,
and
so
you
know
if
we
can,
if
we
can
work
on
a
plan
or
if
we
can
work
to
include
that
in
this
plan.
In
this
proposal
coming
forward,
I
think
it
could.
It
would
be
a
good
precedent
to
set
and
for
future
funding
options
as
well.
So.
J
Mr.
chair,
my
follow-up
to
that,
your
statement
is
also
in
regards
to
the
water
treatment
that
we
know
how
much
the
well
they're
gonna
tell
us
how
much
the
equipment's
gonna
cost,
but
the
ongoing
maintenance
of
that
that
treatment-
and
you
know
it's
you're,
looking
at
tens
of
millions
of
dollars,
I
think
in
and
you
know
structurally
retrofitting,
that
building
and
and
making
it
sound
enough
that
you
can
actually
use
it
for
something
else.
Member.
G
Wharton
I
would
just
say
that
I
share
those
maintenance,
concerns
and
I've
been
really
upfront
about
that
with
interest
groups
in
district
3.
That
wanted
to
to
see
this
turned
into
something,
but
that
this
is
a
project
that
has
I
I,
would
say
a
very
impressive
amount
of
community
support,
and
a
lot
of
work
has
already
gone
into
trying
to
address
those
questions.
G
And
so
I
hope
that
in
trying
in
coming
back
and
answering
that
that
you
will
look
to
Warm,
Springs,
Alliance
and
and
some
of
the
other
community
members
who
put
in
so
much
time
to
try
to
make
sure
that
this
that
we
can
afford
that.
We
can
put
something
in
place
that
we
can
afford
long-term
and
that
could
actually
be
self-sustaining
and.
A
To
build
on
that
point,
councilmember
I
think
that
the
the
warm
spring
and
Warm
Springs
Alliance
has
done
a
really
good
job
and
have
have
they
have
put
in
a
lot
of
time.
I
think
one
of
the
other
things
that
we
ought
to
be
looking
at
for
these
types
of
proposals
as
well
is
what
sort
of
a
private
funding
option
their
options.
There
are
to
help
supplement
what
the
public
money
or
what
public
money
we
would
be
appropriating
to
it.
A
So
I
know
that
has
the
potential
of
being
more
complex,
but
with
a
project
that
that
has
the
history
of
the
Warm
Springs
and
the
costs
that
it
will
take
not
only
to
get
it
back
online
but
to
operate
efficiently
and
safely.
Is
it's
not
going
to
be
cheap
and
and
so
think
that
it's
something
that
because
of
that
broad
community
interest,
we
had
to
be
looking
at
all
funding
options.
So
other
questions
about
this
okay,
Oh
council,
member
about
the
Morris.
F
This
is
so
nice
that
they,
they
have
created
a
non-profit
group,
and
this
is
an
opportunity
also
for
them
to
figure
out
what
other
funding
mechanisms
or
our
grants
or
whatever
it
is
out
there
for
nonprofits
for
this
type
of
of
activity
and
really
you
know,
come
back
with
some
fundings
as
well,
so
that
we
can
leverage
and
I'm
always
about
thinking
about
leverage
and
how
these
nonprofits
operate
and
how
we
can
help
them,
but
we
want
or
we
want
them
to
help
themselves
as
well.
So
so
I
guess
those
are
my
comments.
A
M
Item
d4
is
the
portion
of
the
election
expenses
related
to
the
streets,
reconstruction
bond
that
can
be
recovered
once
the
city
issues
the
bonds,
it's
ninety
one
thousand
five
hundred
and
forty
six
dollars
and
there's
a
policy
question
about
when
that
first
bond
issuance
might
be.
As
a
reminder,
the
communications
during
during
the
lead-up
to
the
vote
said
that
design
would
begin
in
2019
and
the
first
construction
would
be
in
2020.
At
the
last
briefing
the
administration
mentioned.
The
first
issuance
of
the
bond
would
be
later
this
calendar
year.
M
The
next
item,
I,
wanted
to
point
out,
is
e5.
This
is
one
of
the
county
grants
from
the
regional
transportation
choice
fund
from
the
increased
sales
tax
at
the
county
level
and
I'm,
pointing
it
out
because
there's
an
adjustment
from
what
was
included.
It
currently
lists
four
point:
eight
million
dollars,
but
it
will
be
decreased
two
million
dollars.
This
is
because
that
two
million
dollars
is
going
to
South,
Salt
Lake,
and
so
instead
of
having
the
city
be
a
pass-through
it'll
go
directly
to
the
other
city.
M
The
next
one
is
item
G
five,
and
this
is
150,000
dollars,
that's
related
to
green
bike,
and
it
has
been
pulled
pending
an
opportunity
for
the
council
to
receive
a
briefing
and
discussion
with
green
bike,
and
then
there
is
one
council
edit
item.
This
is
housekeeping
item
item.
Following
up
from
last
summer,
the
RDA
central
business
district
contributed
$90,000
to
the
Pioneer
Park
central
laundry
development
and
the
plan
was
to
have
the
CIP
cost
overrun
account
reimburse
the
central
business
district.
M
A
N
Currently,
I
just
got
numbers
through
March
like
within
the
last
hour
and
the
general
funds
tuition
reimbursement.
The
budget
is
200,000
and
our
grand
total
right
now
is
180,000
490
to
49.
So
we
only
have
20,000
about
19,000
507
for
the
remainder
of
the
year.
I,
don't
believe
this
is
gonna
be
enough
to
cover
for
the
remainder
of
the
year.
Okay,.
N
The
next
quarter
for
the
last
quarter
for
the
fourth
quarter,
I,
don't
think
that
19,000
the
average
has
been
about
has
been
60,000
164
on
a
per
quarter
basis,
so
if
I
only
have
19,000
about
40
40
thousand
dollars
between,
but
the
last
quarter
is
always
a
bigger
quarter,
because
you
have
May
in
there
as
well
right.
So,
if
you're
going
to
a
traditional
school,
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
larger
and
I
believe
last
year,
that
quarter
was
around
ninety
thousand.
N
We
you
know,
we
promoted
it
more
I
know
that
your
public
service
of
Public
Safety
areas
are
using
it
more
promoting
it
more.
It's
interesting,
because
if
I
looked
at
all
the
other
departments,
they
are
fairly
low
as
far
as
tuition
reimbursements
concern.
So
all
your
other
enterprise
and
internal
service
funds
general
fund
is
a
heavy
user
of
the
tuition
reimbursement
program.
So
I
think
that
I
mean
we.
We
have
expanded
it
twice
and
we've
increased
the
budget
twice
and
I
think
that
it's
just
being
used
more
so.
A
A
Okay,
council
members,
I
think
this
is
something
that
you
we
we
don't
have
many
opportunities
really
to
provide
non
financial.
Well,
this
is
financial,
but
you
know
non
salary
type
benefits
to
our
employees,
I
think
tuition
reimbursement.
When
you
look
at
the
the
data
from
not
just
city
tuition
reimbursement,
but
but
corporate
reimbursement
as
well
is
something
that
does
pay
off.
It
did
not
only
is
a
benefit
that
benefits
employees,
but
I
think
it
benefits
the
entity
providing
those
tuition
benefits
as
well.
A
I
would
be
fully
supportive,
I'd.
Looking
look
at
the
council
to
see
if
the
council
would
also
support,
adding
the
$70,000
necessary
for
this
remaining
piece
and
then,
when
we
start
our
budget
process
that
we
look
at
potentially
expanding
that
program
or
at
least
changing
some
of
those
numbers
just
because
I
do
think
that
it
is
a
a
positive
tool
to
help
with
employee
retention,
any
concerns
or
comments
about
that
councilmember
Johnston.
N
E
N
E
C
A
C
That
I
think
we
should
apply
to
cover
the
support
we
give
to
the
rape
recovery
center
through
this
funding
and
I'm
curious
about
how
we
could
do
that.
Now
that
we've
taken
rape
recovery
center
out
of
the
CDBG
process,
because
every
year
we
were
battling
to
keep
it
it
in
there
to
some
extent
and
we've
taken
it
into
the
general
fund.
I'd
like
to
see
if
we
can
get
some
federal
dollars
to
help
with
that.
N
A
O
O
A
Time,
councilmembers
and
a
non
quorum
of
tardy
ones,
so
we
will
move
forward
with
the
one
year.
Action
plan
for
Community,
Development,
Block,
Grant
and
other
federal
grants
for
fiscal
year
2019
into
2020
been
led.
Keefe
will
lead
this
discussion
for
us
and
then
Jennifer
Schumann
the
hand
policy
director
is
also
here
and
will
join
us
as
well.
A
F
M
E
M
A
A
M
The
council
held
the
required
public
hearing
on
March
26th
for
applicants
to
come
and
give
their
public
comments
about
their
applications.
This
is
the
first
briefing
and
a
second
briefing
is
scheduled
for
next
week
at
April
9th.
The
council
is
scheduled
to
take
potential
action
on
April
23rd.
The
deadline
for
the
council
to
take
action
is
May
1st.
M
This
is
the
fifth
year
under
the
five
year
consolidated
plan.
The
estimated
amounts
of
funding
we
haven't
received
final
award
amounts
from
HUD,
so
we're
working
with
best
estimates.
The
estimates
of
the
available
funding
compared
to
the
requests,
as
shown
on
the
screen
in
the
corner,
significantly
outstripped
supply
two-to-one.
M
After
speaking
with
community
members
and
long-term
applicants,
this
is
a
balance
between
wanting
to
make
sure
that
the
time
and
the
effort
put
into
these
applications
result
in
a
real
public
benefit,
because
it
does
take
a
lot
of
money
and
effort
to
go
through
this
process
and
the
$30,000
is
the
balancing
point
and
I
want
to
point
out
that
there
was
one
application
disqualified
because
they
were
requesting
less
than
the
$30,000
minimum.
This
was
public
services,
CDBG
number
13
spy,
hops
after-school
program.
M
M
Attachment
2
is
the
funding
log
and
if
you
need
a
new
hard
copy,
we
have
extras
available
a
couple
of
the
funding
log
trends.
There
are
13
new
applicants
in
CDBG.
There
are
four
new
applicants
in
ESG,
two
new
applicants
in
home
and
none
for
HOPWA
three
applications
were
disqualified,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
one
was
for
requesting
less
than
the
minimum.
The
other
two
were
the
road
home
and
they
were
disqualified
because
the
organization
was
not
selected
as
the
operator
for
the
men's
and
women's
homeless,
Resource
Center.
M
There
are
four
CDBG
applications
that
previously
received
funding
and
did
not
get
a
funding
recommendation
this
time.
Those
are
listed
on
the
staff
report
and
there
are
two
ESG
applicants
who
previously
received
grants
grant
awards
and
did
not
receive
funding
recommendations.
This
time
there
are
eight
discrepancies
or
exceptions,
I
should
say
between
the
board
funding
recommendations
and
the
mayor's
funding
recommendations.
These
are
summarized
in
the
table
on
the
screen.
We
can
go
through
each
of
these
right
now.
M
A
Because
I'm
fine
with
that,
it
depends
on
what
the
council
is
more
comfortable
with
has
have
you
all
had
a
chance
to
go
through
and
digest
this,
and
you
know
we
heard
public
comment
last
week,
so
I
guess
what
we
can
do,
let's
start
off
just
going
through
and
if
you
have
recommended
changes.
Let's
go
over
those.
If,
during
that
discussion,
there
are
questions
that
that
we
need
to
raise,
we
can
we
can
raise
them
at
that
time.
A
I'm
talking
about,
instead
of
going
line
item
by
line
item,
what
we'll
do
is
we
can
go
through
and
if
any
of
you
have
made.
No
it's
about
that
about
changes
that
you
want
to
make.
We
will,
instead
of
going
through
line
item
by
line
item,
will
only
be
discussing
the
issues
that
you
all
have
interest
in
in
I.
C
And
maybe
I
think
some
of
ours
might
all
line
up,
so
I'll
throw
out
there
what
I'm
thinking
on
the
on
page
two-
and
you
know
we
can
kick
it
around
because
and
I
wanted
to
thank
David,
but
back
for
providing
the
council
with
follow-up
to
the
NeighborWorks
question
that
we
raised.
Thank
you
did
receive
that
I
still
want
to
get
him
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
C
I'm,
sorry,
so
that
would
take
it
down
to
one
point:
two:
nine
six
and
change
and
then
on
line,
seven
I
propose
that
we
take
fifty
five
thousand
from
that
allocation,
bring
it
down
to
four
ninety
five,
which
again
is
quite
a
bit
more
than
the
CDC
IP
recommendation.
So
between
the
55
twenty-five
and
twenty,
we
could
put
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
towards
line
five.
C
And
I
when
I
the
amounts
that
I'm
recommending
we
take
from
these
other
funds,
I
think
are
our
reasonable
requests.
When
we
look
at
the
scores,
they've
received
the
CDC
IP
recommendation
and
the
mayor's
recommendation
that
none
of
these
I
don't
believe
any
of
these
are
drastic
cuts
to
those
recommendations.
J
I
just
would
I
my
funding
was
a
little
bit
different
than
councilmember
Mendenhall's.
To
make
that
happen,
mine
didn't
touch
assist
it
actually
just
pulled
from
Salt
Lake,
City,
Housing
and
Neighborhood
Development
Division
reason
being
is
that
we
are
they're
receiving
a
lot
and
is
receiving
a
lot
of
money
through
funding
our
future
right
and
that's
not
included
in
this
document
to
reflect
that.
J
A
C
K
K
I
actually
agree
with
councilmember
Rogers
math
on
this
one
because
of
the
funding
our
future
money,
that's
going
to
hand
there's
approximately
four
million
dollars
every
year
that
we're
gonna
be
seeing
going
over
there
and
not
that
these
programs
in
hand
aren't
necessary
and
the
approximate
four
million
dollars
we
have
dedicated
to
affordable
housing.
But
we
also
have
really
great
programs
outside
of
hand
that
meet
another
niche
in
our
community.
A
K
A
Before
we
before
we
move
on
is
if
no
one
has
anything
else
and
then
we
can
move
on
to
that.
One
thing
that
I
would
I
I'm
somewhat
concerned
about
I
still
am
not
positive.
How
to
how
to
do
that.
But
I
would
like
to
see
us
look
at
some
of
the
look
at
funding
for
the
housing
authority
on
number
three
for
the
acquisition
for
purchase
of
the
Oasis
apartments.
I
know
that
it
didn't
receive
a
recommendation
for
the
mayor.
The
CDC
ap
is
there:
is
there
background
on
on
why
that
wasn't
funded
sure.
P
I,
thank
you
for
that.
The
Oasis
Apartments
is
is
a
project
that
definitely
we
would
like
to
see
go
forward.
The
Housing
Trust
Fund
might
be
a
more
appropriate
space
for
this.
This
particular
application.
Cdbg
funding
and
acquisition
is
very
cumbersome
to
use
and
there's
a
lot
of
timing
requirements,
and
we,
the
CDC
IP
board
the
mayor
and
staff,
were
all
concerned
about
the
ability
to
bring
that
legal
document
to
fruition
and
meet
the
timeliness
requirements.
P
J
If
you
look
at
number
six,
our
staff
notes-
or
maybe
it's
not
our
staff
notes
in
blue.
It
says
applicant-
also
submitted
one
million
home
funding,
requests
for
similar
program
to
construct
new
housing
or
rehabilitate
existing
housing
or
acquire
property.
This
application
would
be
limited
to
a
single
housing
development
or.
P
That
the
as
we
look
at
CDBG
and
home
and
we
look
to
leverage
those
appropriately,
the
application
in
home
in
the
home
grant
will
be
utilized
in
the
community
right
for
multiple.
Multiple
applications
can
come
to
that
funding
source.
The
idea
here
with
CDBG
is
to
locate
a
piece
of
property
I'm
that
meets
a
lot
of
community
needs
and
takes
into
account
our
ability
to
to
meet
those
timing
requirements
that
HUD
sets
forward
I'm.
P
It
would
be
one
particular
purchase,
but
these
funds
may
not
actually
end
up
supporting
the
purchase,
but
rather
like
early
stages
of
pre
development.
Some
due
diligence
cost
that
sort
of
thing,
so
we
would
be
looking
to
leverage
other
funding
in
that.
In
that
scenario,
so.
M
M
Do
not
recall
this
did
come.
The
Oasis
was
briefly
discussed
with
the
RDA
board
last
year
as
a
potential
project
to
receive
the
notice
of
funding
availability
for
housing.
Okay,
but
there
were
too
many
uncertainties.
It
wasn't
for
far
enough
along
in
its
design.
But
I.
Don't
remember
the
address
sorry,
but.
K
Thank
you,
and,
as
was
mentioned,
I
think
the
housing
trust
fund
may
be
a
better
area
for
the.
If
that
goes
forward
right
right
because-
and
it
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
what
I
heard
you
say
is:
there's
just
a
little
bit
more
legal
red
tape
with
the
CDBG
funds
that
may
cause
an
issue
and
actually
trying
to
acquire
something
like
that.
Absolutely
okay,.
A
K
I
think
it
could
be
a
good
partnership
potentially
between
hand
and
RDA,
but
not
using
CDBG,
because
of
what
we
were
just
told
is
that
the
legality,
the
legal
red
tape,
is
too
much
for
that.
So
I
don't
know
that
that
would
make
sense
just
because,
if
it's
too
hard
to
use
those
funds
for
that
particular
project,
then
let's
make
sure
that
those
funds
are
put
somewhere
that
we
can
use
them
right.
I
mean
that's.
K
A
No
I
mean
I,
look
I,
think
that
we've
talked
about
this
before
I
know
that
you
know
as
an
RDA
board,
we
were
talking
about
it.
I
think
we
need
to
move
forward,
I'd
like
to
see
the
housing
authority
be
able
to
actually
acquire
that
and
start
doing
something
and
if
RDA,
affordable
housing
money
is
the
best
resource
resource
to
look
at
using
I'm.
Okay
with
that
I
just
want
to
move
I
want
the
project
to
be
able
to
move
forward.
What.
K
A
A
M
M
A
M
P
I'm
happy
to
thank
you
assist,
has
done
a
really
great
job
over
the
last
few
years,
under
new
leadership
at
I'm.
Utilizing
all
the
funds
that
we
do
provide
I'm
previous
leadership
would
leave
forty
fifty
sixty
thousand
dollars
on
the
table
at
the
end
of
the
year
and
so
their
number
kind
of
ticked
down
in
terms
of
what
they
were
recommended
for
and
then
what
with
what
they
were
ultimately
awarded
I'm.
P
We
are
now
in
the
space
where
they
are
fully
fully
utilizing
100%
of
the
CDBG
funding
that
they
are
being
awarded,
and
they
are
able
to
do
so
typically
about
by
about
this
time
every
year,
and
so
the
mayor
was
interested
in
a
few
more
funds
to
them
to
be
able
to
continue
doing
more
of
the
good
work
that
they
do.
The.
M
P
In
this
application,
I'm
actually
an
olive
housing.
The
mayor
really
took
a
whole
holistic
look
at
all
of
the
applications
and
one
of
the
ones
that
we
were
at
that
she
looked
to
address
was
number
seven,
which
is
our
our
rehabilitation
and
our
loan
staff
in
housing
and
Neighborhood
Development.
And
so,
as
we
look
at
that
request
and
and
the
board
did
reduce
their
recommendation
right,
it
is
relatively
low
comparative
two
years
passed
and
the
the
mayor
was
looking
at
any
any
funding
that
is
not
allocated
to
that
line.
P
Item
that
meets
the
staffing
needs
of
that
group.
I'm
has
to
be
offset
by
general
fund
right
and
so
thinking
about
federal
funding
and
how
we
can
utilize
and
maximize
that
without
I'm,
without
using
additional
general
fund.
She
wanted
to
fund
that
at
a
higher,
more
reasonable
number,
and
so
she
increased
the
funding
there
and
felt
like
line
sorry
I
have
to
look
back
down
line,
but
six
line.
Six
would
be
the
easiest
line
to
make
the
largest
adjustment
it
could
absorb
the
largest
amount.
A
M
A
Because
of
that,
I
would
like
to
have
one
more
idea
that
I'd
like
to
throw
out
there
before
we
move
on
based
on
what
you
were
talking
about
with
the
cysts
and
and
the
work
that
that
we've
been
able
to
do
there.
I
would
actually
like
to
increase
that
back
up
to
the
the
full
four
hundred
thousand
dollar
request
and
pull
another
$25,000
from
item
number.
Six,
since
you've
said
that
there
that
has
the
the
place
where
you
can
adjust
things
the
most
any
concern
or
issue
with
that.
P
Know
it
is
the
intent
of
of
the
funding
is
to
really
go
into
a
lot
of
those
pre
development.
Pre-Development
costs,
infrastructure
costs,
environmental
review
kind
of
costs,
I
think
at
one
point
one
we
can
still
make
that
happen.
We
may
look
to
the
administration
to
help
support
that
and
in
other
ways,
but
we'd
have
to
get
creative,
but
it
can
still
move
forward.
I'm,
confident
that
at
one
point
one,
we
can
still
move
that
a
project
forward.
You.
P
E
A
And
councilmember
Johnston
to
your
point,
the
only
reason
that
I
thought
about
making
that
is
because
of
the
acknowledgement
of
flexibility
on
that
number-
and
you
know
I,
wouldn't
want
to
do
anything
that
was
going
to
stop
the
project,
but
at
the
same
time,
if
there's
you
know
if,
based
on
what
you
were
talking
about
with
the
cyst
and
the
work,
that's
being
done
there,
and
you
know
that
that
project
really
is
unique.
Not
these
others
aren't,
but
that's
why
I
wanted
to
move
that
forward.
C
A
A
M
C
P
P
When
you
look
at
the
highest-scoring
applications
and
as
we
went
down
and
went
down
the
list
and
then
we
there
isn't
enough
funding
to
reach
English
skills,
Learning
Center
from
the
board's
perspective,
they
don't
have
any
issues
with
the
with
the
application
or
their
their
role
in
our
community.
It
just
is
this:
it
simply
comes
down
to
numbers.
The
mayor
felt
strongly
about
shifting
funding
from
public
services
number
14,
which
is
the
in
between,
and
funding
English
skills,
Learning
Center,
because
of
how
unique
they
are.
P
M
K
As
I
was
going
through
this,
and
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
cuz
I
would
I
would
love
to
be
wrong
on
this,
but
it
appears
that
all
of
the
money
that
we
can
use
is
being
used
by
those
first
three
that
are
recommended
right,
so
the
only
place
I
can
take
money
to
give
money
is
from
those
first,
three
that
are
being
funded.
Is
that
accurate?
That
is
accurate?
K
K
G
I
mean
if
we're
looking
at
what
we've
historically
contributed
I
think
going.
You
know
giving
to
Volunteers
of
America
every
year
and
then
giving
nothing
whereas
Catholic
Community,
Services,
we've
traditionally
funded
at
or
we
funded
at
30,000.
Last
year.
They
got
an
increase
from
20,000
the
year
before
I
would
take
15,000.
We
didn't
fund.
Last
year,
oh
I'm,
sorry,
we
didn't
fund
last
year,
yep,
so
we're
back
to
restoring
funding
at
30,000.
G
G
A
So
councilmember
Fowler
is
okay
with
that
yeah,
it's
okay,
so
you're
you're
good
with
it,
okay,
so
councilmember
Wharton.
Can
you
restate
what
your
what
numbers
you're
pulling
from
where
yes.
G
G
I
will
think
so.
Page
number
nine
line
item
number
one:
take
fifteen
thousand
from
Catholic
Community
Services,
leaving
them
with
thirty
thousand
and
page
9
line.
Item
number
2
first
step
house
take
16000,
leaving
them
with
50000
and
then
page
9
number
3,
the
road
home
take
13
thousand
115,
leaving
them
with
40000
and
then
adding
those
together
would
be
44,000
115
for
the
vo,
a.
C
What
kind
of
and
the
the
emergency
shelters
adult
or
the
emergency
shelter
dollars
additional
dollars
from
I?
Think
from
our
experience
being
allocated
or
being
used,
usually
in
the
winter
months
specifically,
can
you
reflect
on
the
need
to
remain
in
that
upper
end
of
the
funding,
given
that
it
won't?
It
may
not
be
open
during
the
emergency,
shelter
season
or.
P
The
board
actually
had
a
lot
of
conversation
about
what
happens
when
this
closes
I'm,
which
is
why
you
know
the
recommendation
was
reduced
from
what
their
ask
was
I'm,
they
intent
with
administration
is
to
whatever
is
recommended
or
what
is
whatever
is
appropriated
here
we
will
write
the
contract
loose
enough
to
where,
if
there
is
funding,
when
that
shelter
closes,
that
those
funds
will
be
shifted
to
the
homeless,
Resource
Center
that
the
road
home
operates,
I,
don't
anticipate
that
that
will
actually
happen.
P
A
Okay,
so
councilmember
Wharton's
recommendation
is
that
we
reduce
item
on
page
number,
nine,
that
we
reduce
items
one
to
thirty
thousand
dollars
to
250
thousand
dollars
three
to
forty
thousand
dollars
and
on
page
ten
fund
item
number
seven
at
forty
four
thousand
one
hundred
and
fifteen
dollars.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
okay,
thumbs
up
that
you
support
that
thumbs
down
that
you
oppose
it,
and
that
is
almost
unanimous
with
one
recusal,
six
yeses
and
Andrew
accuses
great
other
other
items
under
ESG.
M
Are
two
items
in
ESG:
it's
a
transfer
from
one
to
the
other,
where
the
board
of
the
mayor
disagreed.
It's
a
transfer
of
three
thousand
one
hundred
and
fifty
eight
dollars
from
the
administration.
This
is
the
last
the
administration
of
ESG,
it's
the
last
item
for
the
ESG
grant
and
it's
a
transfer
from
administration
to
part
two
number:
six,
which
is
the
road
home:
the
homelessness
prevention,
rapid,
rehousing
program.
A
C
A
Was
and
council
member
Mendenhall
that
I
have
a
note
here
and
I
want
to
ask
about
and
again
we're
on
page
13,
and
my
question
would
be
to
hand
if
again,
based
on
on
councilmember
Rogers
comments
about
funding
our
future.
If
we
were
to
take
250
thousand
dollars
from
item
number
four
and
moved
that
to
item
number
6
to
the
Habitat
for
Humanity.
A
E
E
P
We
have
not
identified
a
habitat,
has
habitat
in
hand,
have
not
been
able
to
identify
a
piece
of
property
that
they
would
like
to
have
that
write
down
on.
We
are
committed
to
continuing
to
figure
out
how
we
can
work
together.
I'm
the
home
development
fund
line
number
four.
They
can't
apply
to
once
a
project
is
identified,
I'm
and
as
long
as
it
meets
the
home
requirements,
there
have
been
a
couple
of
properties
that
we
have
been
trying
to
explore
with
them.
P
Federal
funding
has
not
been
favorable
to
the
locations
that
have
been
explored
up
to
this
point,
I
think
we
do
have
some
opportunity,
though,
where
we
can
work
with
habitat
and
I'm
I'm
committed
to
continuing
to
see
that
through
mr.
J
A
K
K
Why
not
I
mean
I
recognize
that
there
hasn't
been
any
land
found
for
Habitat
for
Humanity,
but
I
guess
I,
just
don't
understand
why
we
don't
put
that
money
like
kind
of
earmark
it
almost
straight
for
them,
I
mean
give
it
to
them
and
then
decide
and
if
they
like
legally,
if
we
give
them
this
money,
I
understand
that
their
applications
stated
that
it
would
be
contingent
upon
having
to
land
right
down.
But
we
kind
of
already
as
two
councilmember
Mendenhall's
point.
A
E
Think
there's
some
details
here.
This
particular
funding
is
federal
and
the
city's
on
the
hook
to
spend
all
of
it
down
in
a
certain
time
frame,
I
believe
where
we
get
dinged.
We
may
get
less
next
time,
so
there's
a
time
issue
as
well
get
projects
that
are
ready
to
go
I,
think
so.
I
think's
in
some
cases
the
scoring
here
on
the
right
it
may
be
low
because
of
technicalities
like
that
that
make
it
hard
to
get
a
project
going
so
for.
P
My
historical
context,
if
I
could
add
a
little
bit
more
of
we,
we
did
allocate
development
funding
to
nonprofit
partners
and
what
we
were
finding
is
that
those
funds
were
sitting
unspent
because
it's
very
difficult
in
this
housing
market
to
actually
use
these
funds.
And
so
several
years
ago
we
created
the
home
development
fund
as
a
as
a
pot
of
funding
that
our
partners
can
come
to
once
they've
identified
a
project.
P
We
know
it
aligns
with
the
regulations
and
they
could
apply
to
it
as
gap
funding
is
needed,
and
then
we
were
able
to
get
the
funding
out
and
to
the
to
that
point.
To
that
end,
we've
been
able
to
allocate
1.5
million
dollars
and
and
realize
13
different
units
13
different
units.
It
might
be
17
units
actually
17
units
I'm,
where,
as
in
years
past,
we
weren't
able
to
do
any
of
that
and
so
being
able
to
have
the
home
development
fund
answered
that
need
for
timing.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
P
A
So
here's
my
idea
in
it.
It
takes
what
you
just
said
and
it
doesn't
necessarily
change
anything,
but
it
also
helps
to
move
this
forward
a
little
bit.
What
if
we
were
to
today,
look
at
taking
the
250,000
from
number
for
moving
it
to
number
six?
We
are
not
scheduled
to
take
action
on
this
until
April
23rd,
which
gives
a
couple
of
weeks
for
a
you
to
work
with
Habitat
for
Humanity
and
if
they
can
make
it
work,
then
that
recommendation
would
stick
and
they
so
and
what
I
mean
by
making
it
work.
A
If
they,
if
you
can
figure
out
the
land,
write
down
question
the
council
member
Mendenhall
was
talking
about
if
they're
opt.
You
know
if
they're
reasonably
optimistic,
that
they'll
be
able
to
spend
the
federal
money,
the
way
that
it's
it's
being
appropriated
here
great.
If
they,
if
there
are
questions,
then
it
just
reverts
it
just
River.
The
recommendation
reverts
back
to
number
four
and
Habitat
for
Humanity
could
apply
later
for
access
to
that.
Your.
A
Okay
yeah,
so
if
we
get
if
we
could
find
out
if
we
could
find
out
before
so
we
can
add
this
to
the
IR
and
I
like
to
Jennifer
so
for
the
April
23rd
agenda.
Let's
have
just
a
quick,
follow
up
discussion
on
CDBG
and
if
you
can
present
that
information
to
us
and
the
response
from
Habitat
for
Humanity
and
if
they
can
make
it
work
great.
If
not,
then
then
we
at
least
know
that,
and
that
way
we're
not
doing
something
that
we
can't
undo.
E
A
It's
not
gonna,
be
really
it's
not
the
best
business
move
for
them
to
make,
and
so
I
would
assume
that
they're
going
to
be
fairly
conservative
about
their
projections
and
if
they
feel
that
they
can
conservatively
move
forward,
then
I
would
love
to
fund
it.
But
I
don't
want
to
see
money
sitting
and
if
we
do
find
that
money
is
sitting
that
would
certainly
weigh
on
you
know
any
future
requests
that
they
come
to
us
with,
but
I
do
I
do
want
to
at
least
provide
that
opportunity
for
them
to
come
back
and,
and
mr.
M
E
Ok
David
mr.
chair,
if
I
could
just
asked
for
clarification
purposes
in
terms
of
the
conditions
and
just
so
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
what
what
our
next
steps
are
with
with
Habitat
for
Humanity's
and
in
what
kind
of
threshold
they
may
need
to
meet
within
two
weeks
to
to
move
forward.
This
recommendation
so
tied
tied
to
land.
So
there
would
be
neat
land
city
land
would
need
to
be
identified
within
two
weeks.
That
would
I'm
sure
there's
some
Geographic
either
I
should
ask
the
question:
are
there
Geographic,
because
there's
necessarily.
A
A
We
will
be
able
to
spend
that
towards
the
housing
that
we've
outlined
the
two
to
three
bedroom
single-family
homes
if
they
feel
that
they
can
do
that
within
this,
this
budget
cycle,
that's
what
I'd
be
looking
for
if
they,
if
they're
concerned,
or
they
aren't
sure
if
they
don't
have
everything
lined
up
at
this
point,
then
you
know
you
probably
ought
to
encourage
them
to.
Let
us
know
that
so.
E
A
E
I'm,
trying
to
understand
is
what
we
can
require
of
them,
or
what
that
threshold
is
cuz.
We
just
go
and
say
to
them.
Do
you
think
you
can
spend
this
reasonably
within
a
year?
They're
gonna
say
yes,
otherwise
they
wouldn't
have
applied,
but
if
we
have
an
expectation
that
they've
identified
plan
that
they
can
show
us
that
they
have
a
clear
path
to,
for
you
know
to
purchase
that
land
or
they
already
own
it
or
whatever,
that
this
could
work
on
or
if
there
is
city
land.
E
Because
again
this
has
been
tied
to
the
idea
of
a
right
down
what
I
want
to
be
careful
of
and
and
here's
my
ignorance
I'm.
You
know
in
order
for
us
to
do
a
writedown,
it
has
to
go
through
a
public
benefit
analysis
correct
if
a
city,
land
and
so
I
don't
want
the
administration
to
be,
but
in
a
position
where
we're
committing
to
a
land
write
down
before
it
goes
through
the
proper
process
or
put
you
in
a
position
of
kind
of
saying
yeah.
A
We're
you
know,
honestly,
on
the
same
page
on
this,
because
again,
what
what
my
intent
is
is
that
they
would
be
able
to
reasonably
reasonably
spend
it
on
the
project
that
they
applied,
for,
if
they
don't
have
things
lined
up
with
the
property,
then
they're
probably
not
able
to
move
forward
with
it.
You
know
if
there,
if
there
was
another
piece
but
I
mean
I,
would
assume
that
in
all
of
these
applications
that
they
were
all
vetted
and
we
didn't
end
up
funding
something
that
we
didn't
think
reasonably
addressed.
A
A
Does
that?
Okay?
So
let's,
let's
kind
of
drop
hole
temporarily
pulling
the
250,000
from
number
four
moving
it
to
number
six
based
on
the
discussions
that
hand
and
the
administration
will
have
with
Habitat
for
Humanity,
and
we
will
make
the
final
decision
as
to
leaving
that
those
changes
on
there
during
our
April
23rd
work
session
thumbs
up
that
we
support
that
thumbs
down
that
we
oppose
it.
Okay,
and
that
is
unanimous.
M
M
Been
in
years
past,
the
council's
taken
a
straw
poll
to
support
the
funding
contingencies
that
were
recommended
by
the
CIP
advisory
board
and
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
Advisory
Board.
All
of
the
awards
that
are
being
allocated
are
estimates,
since
we
don't
have
final
numbers
from
HUD
and
so
the
advisory
boards
provided
these
funding
contingencies.
In
past
years,
the
council
has
agreed
to
those
funding
contingencies,
but
I
just
want
to
point
out.
These
are
not
confirmed.
Dollar
amounts
yet,
and
so
they
may
be
more
or
less
than
what
you're
seeing
on
the
funding
log
and
would.
A
A
A
E
E
Preliminary
right
now
as
we're
putting
together
the
mayor's
budget
recommendation
right
now,
it
is
leaning
towards
not
recommending
those
dollars
because
we're
experiencing
the
same
issues
in
terms
of
the
4th
Street
clinic
on
that
particular
program.
I've
been
able
to
spend
those
dollars
and
report
the
time
to
rectify
that
on
there,
and
perhaps
do
you
think
or
is
it
still
I
will
leave
that
to
staff.
O
P
Made
a
lot
of
strides
to
because
we
recognize
also
that
this
is
a
very
unique
opportunity
to
serve
a
population.
That's
not
going
to
walk
into
a
clinic
and
it's
heavily
reliant
upon
our
emergency
services.
So
we've
done
a
lot
of
work,
trying
to
engage
the
organization
and
have
continued
to
struggle
with
that.
We
have
pretty
big
concerns
about
reporting
and
accuracy
of
reporting,
as
well
as
spending
at
the
time
meeting
with
the
mayor's
office
they
hadn't
spent
any
of
their
their
40,000
that
had
been
allocated
and.
H
P
A
E
I
think
it's
yeah
I
think
from
the
council
new.
We
don't
hear
all
the
back
sort
of
the
background
of
stuff.
I
know
one
of
the
qualifications
for
all
this
funding
is
organizational
sort
of
strength,
past
performance,
current
structure,
internet.
We
don't
hear
a
lot
of
that
stuff,
which
the
thing
is
important
take
into
account
in
having
a
good
partnership.
So
I
appreciate
your
looking
at
that.
E
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
if
there's
things
to
do
on
a
provider
end
that
they
know
that
and
they
can
be
rectifying
if
that's
important,
because
it's
hard
to
have
organizations
that
are
critical
and
still
struggle
with
the
relationship.
So
mr.
chair,
if
I,
could
respond
to
that
real
quick,
you
know,
because
last
year
we
chose
to
fund
this
through
general
fund
I.
Think
we
can
extend
that
conversation
beyond
the
23rd
that,
as
we
continue
to
get
engaged
with
them,
and
we
look
at
what
they
have
submitted
to
this
point.
We
can
continue.
E
M
A
D
It's
just
to
draw
the
council's
attention
to
resolution.
That's
a
little
bit
out
of
the
norm.
We
received
a
request
to
have
the
council
consider
adopting
a
resolution
supporting
the
application
for
a
grant.
That's
not
a
typical
thing,
but
apparently
it's
a
requirement
of
this
grant
that
the
administration
is
applying
for.
So
it's
on
your
formal
meeting
agenda
as
new
business,
because
we've
never
discussed
it
before
it
doesn't
commit
the
city's
resources
or
pledge
matching
grants.
It's
just
to
check
a
box
on
the
application
process.
So
I
just
wanted
to
draw
your
attention
to
it.
A
And
then
a
report
from
the
chair,
Vice
Chair,
the
only
thing
that
we
have
is
tonight.
There
is
a
small
reception
down
in
the
mayor's
conference
room
that
Jen
Selig
has
organized
so
you're
all
invited
it's
it's
with
guests.
Who
will
be
here
for
the
Utah
campaign
to
abolish
nuclear
weapons
resolution
or
the
UCAN
resolution?
That's
on
our
agenda
for
tonight
so
and
that's
the
only
additional
information
or
news
that
I
have
councilmember
Rogers.
You.
A
A
N
E
Its
March
5th
meeting
the
City
Council
adopted
amendments
regulating
car
sharing
companies.
The
Salt
Lake
City
Airport
discussed
the
development
of
a
neighborhood
action
plan
to
support
companies
adjacent
to
the
new
homeless,
Resource
Center's
and
discussed
an
ordinance
to
amend
the
city's
zoning
code
related
to
the
conditional
building
and
site
design
review
to
learn
more
visit.
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