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A
A
But
we
do
have
a
quorum,
so
we're
gonna
get
started.
We
are
gonna,
excuse,
councilmember
luke,
he
is
on
vacation.
Councilmember
Wharton
is
returning
from
vacation,
so
you'll
see
him
pop
in
and
out
I.
Think
throughout
the
meeting.
Councilmember
Fowler
had
a
medical
issue
with
some
someone
in
but
she'll
be
back
and
back
and
forth.
So
we'll
be
you'll,
see
council
members
popping
in
and
out
so
we're
gonna
go
straight
into
the
first
item,
but
we
had
to
written
briefing
items
if
you're
following
along.
A
A
So
we're
into
item
number
three,
which
is
the
library
fund
budget
amendment
for
fiscal
year,
2019
and
20
at
the
table
from
the
council
office.
We
have
Russell
weeks
and
from
I
believe
the
administration.
We
have
Lou
Marzulli
who's
library
board.
President
Peter
Bromberg,
the
library
executive
director
and
Jase
bunting.
The
finance
director
did
I
miss
anyone.
C
A
proposed
budget
amendment:
this
is
a
briefing
on
the
proposed
amendment.
If
the
council
forwards
it
for
action,
it's
already
set
a
public
hearing
date
for
December
3rd
with
potential
final
action
on
on
December
10th.
The
this
is
the
briefing
on
the
proposed
budget
amendment.
The
two
top
major
proposed
amendments
would
be
for
a
system-wide
facility
study
and
a
proposal
to
hire
in-house
an
in-house
security
team
instead
of
contracted
and.
B
Our
master
facilities
plan-
this
is
a
kind
of
a
once-in-a-generation
analysis
that
we're
doing.
If
you
recall.
Last
year,
we
completed
a
facilities,
conditions
assessment
that
was
really
about
looking
at
systems,
rooves,
air
conditioning
plumbing,
all
the
things
that
have
a
lifespan
and
we're
now
working
off
of
that
to
do
our
deferred
maintenance
over
the
next
10
years.
B
The
master
facilities
plan
is
really
looking
at
this
from
a
much
larger
perspective
in
terms
of
looking
over
across
the
next
20
years
or
more
of
the
city
in
terms
of
growth,
demographic
growth,
where
it's
happening
and
then
looking
at
our
eight
facilities.
Looking
at
the
space,
the
amount
of
space,
the
flexibility
of
the
space
and
also
looking
at
the
changing
way
in
which
people
are
using
libraries
and
we
anticipate
library,
use
to
change
and
asking
the
question
of.
Are
these
facilities
going
to
be
adequate
over
the
next
20
years?
B
Coming
up
with
recommendations
for
renovations
expansions
traditionally,
master
facilities
plans
also
look
at
a
new
building
if
that's
needed,
etc,
and
at
the
end
of
this
process.
We'll
have
a
recommendation
for
all
of
that
with
estimated
price
tag
with
that.
So
this
the
200
and
where's
the
amount
on
there
225
400,
is
the
amount
that
we
need
to
pay
for
the
consultants
that
are
doing
the
master
facilities
plan.
D
B
E
B
So
this
this
is
our
security
for
the
whole
system
and
our
and
our
they
are.
The
home
base
is
the
main
library,
but
they
do
have
schedules
where
they're
out
visiting
other
libraries
based
on
the
time
of
day
and
the
needs
and
are
also
available
in
an
as-needed
basis
and
I,
don't
know
if
W,
if
you
want
to
add
anything,
yes.
F
That's
true
and
they
often
go
and
do
a
patrol
or
not
even
a
patrol,
they
kind
of
a
visit
at
some
of
the
branch
locations
based
on
what
the
branch
manager
has
been
requesting.
So
this
will
give
us
a
total
of
including
our
security
manager,
seven
in-house
security
officers,
and
he
our
security
manager
Kristen.
He
felt
that
we
could
easily
still
cover
what
we
currently
provide
to
our
branches
as
well
as
main
library.
F
D
G
B
Then
moving
down
to
the
grant
funds
for
the
community
wellness
liaisons.
This
is
a
really
interesting,
exciting
grant
that
we
just
received
in
partnership
with
the
University
of
Utah,
to
hire
three
full-time
community
wellness
liaisons
to
help
library,
customers
with
health-related
questions
and
services
specifically
focused
on
traditionally
underserved
populations-
and
this
is
this-
that
this
is
no
additional
costs
to
the
library.
This
is
grant
funded.
It's
just
to
reflect
the
change
in
our
budget
so
that
we
can
expend
the
bring
it
out
of
fund
balance
and
expend
the
money
Sampson.
Oh
part,
time.
I'm.
Sorry,.
G
B
F
G
C
So
that
question
is
a
little
bit
to
be
determined.
Okay,
one
of
the
purposes
of
this
project
is
to
increase
relationship
building
within
these
diverse
communities
in
our
city,
and
we
know
that
some
of
the
outcomes
of
that
work
will
determine
what
areas
of
focus
of
health
we
focus
on,
and
this
University
of
Utah
group
considers
health
to
be
seven
aspects
of
health.
I
can't
remember
what
each
of
them
is,
but
they
include
things
such
as
a
physical,
mental
and
even
financial
health.
Okay,.
G
All
right
well,
in
the
reason
why
I
ask
is
because
I
like
to
sometimes
leverage
or
connect
programs
and
resources
that
are
already
happening
within
the
city
and
connect
all
of
you
guys
together,
so
that
it's
even
better
bigger
and
better
and
that's
great
impact.
So
I.
You
know,
for
instance,
the
sustainability
Department
works
with
food
access
for
underserved
communities,.
B
G
It
is
something
that
you
guys
can
talk
to
them
and
see
what
they're
doing.
How
can
is
a
complementary?
Is
it
something
you
can
work
together
with
or
have
programs
you
know,
or
events
in
the
library
that
really
to
what
they
do?
That's
you
know,
that's
one
aspect
of
it,
but
then
we
also
have
the
the
family.
One
I
can
remember
the
depart
the
department
where
angela
romero
runs
like
last
week.
There
was
a
there
was
a
festival
at
the
glendale
library
about
was
a
clean
air.
G
H
A
H
B
It's
not
it's
not
even
necessarily
a
cost
savings.
It's
gonna
be
a
little
bit
of
an
increased
cost
from
what
CBI
was
quoting
us
I
believe
it's
actually
a
little
bit
less
than
what
we
got
from
some
other
quotes,
but
the
other
benefits
are
you
know
with
with
staff
in-house
and
having
40
hour
full-time
people.
We
can
provide
more
consistent
training
and
quality
control.
You
know
with
I
mean
CBI,
there's,
there's,
there's
more
a
little
bit
more
turnover
and
less
control,
etc.
Yeah.
So,
okay,
yeah.
H
B
A
B
If
I
may
say
something
that
is
just
from
the
heart,
I
appreciate
you
all
being
here
honestly
I,
don't
know,
I've
been
really
feeling
this
strongly
of
late.
That
public
service
is
a
tough
gig
and
I'm,
really
appreciative
of
everyone
who
puts
themselves
forward
to
engage
in
this
public
service
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
sucking
up
or
anything
it's
just.
It's
just
just
an
honest
feeling
that
has
really
been
coming
to
the
service.
So
I
just
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
express
my
appreciation.
G
Thank
you,
I
think
one
of
the
things
I
appreciate
the
most
and
I
keep
repeating
I
feel
like
I,
repeat
myself,
but
we
thought
you
guys
in
the
work
that
we
did.
We
couldn't
put
even
potentially
think
or
do
or
make
decisions
if
it
wasn't
for
your
professionalism
and
for
the
work
that
you
put
into
it.
So
thank
you
so
much
as
well.
Thank.
A
Yep:
okay,
we're
on
to
item
number
four,
which
is
we're
looking
at
an
ordinance
for
single
room.
Occupancy
text
amendments
follow
up
and
we
still
have
Russell
weeks
from
council
office
here
at
the
table
and
we
have
our
Planning
Director
for
Salt
Lake,
City,
Nick,
Norris
and
Wayne
Mills
from
who
is
the
planning
manager?
Bunch
of
people
got
some
more
well
we'll
have
the
is
Ashley
here
great.
C
The
result
of
that
was
a
a
meeting
between
housing
providers.
The
administration
or
housing
advocates
the
administration
and
councilmember
Mendenhall
and
Fowler,
and
as
a
result
of
that,
I
believe
that
the
two
council
members
wanted
to
at
least
take
a
second
look
at
the
locations
outlined
in
the
in
the
proposed
ordinance
and
and
see
how
how
equitable
the
distribution
is
in.
C
In
addition,
the
planning
complaining
division
is
looking
for
some
direction
from
the
council
on.
If
the
council
decides
to
go
ahead
with
this.
Second
look:
to
give
them
an
indication
of
what
the
priority
is
on
that
and
the
third
thing
is,
is
and
and
I
hope
it's
serendipity
I've.
You
know
the
the
report
includes
the
attachment
by
that
James
would
presented
last
week
about.
D
D
Great
job
Russell
and
we
had
it
I-
think
a
productive
meeting
with
planning
staff
and
housing
advocates
and
I
councilmember
of
all
tomorrow's.
Were
you
in
that
meeting
I
think
councilmember
Fowler
was:
was
it
just
councilmember,
Fowler
and
me
okay?
Well,
anyway,
it
was
productive
and
so
I'm
I
I
was
grateful
for
the
administration's
participation.
D
J
Don't
know
how
you
guys
when
want
to
start
I,
think
we
were
intending
to
kind
of
answer
some
questions,
but
I
I
can
maybe
give
my
perception
of
that
of
that
meeting
and
I
do
agree.
I
think
it
was
very
productive.
I
think
what
the
main
thing
that
it
did
I
think
is:
identify
a
lot
of
bigger
picture
housing
issues
that
we
have
in
the
city.
This
is
just
one
small
part
of
those.
We
have
a
lot
bigger
issues
and
it
comes
down
frankly
to
our
zoned
and
where
we
can
build
housing
in
the
city.
J
J
J
For
the
purpose
of
this
conversation,
we
looked
at
lands
west
of
I-15
and
lands
east
of
I-15,
so
right
now,
west
of
I-15,
there's
484
acres
of
land
where
you
could
build
in
SRO.
That's
all!
That's
all
in
the
TSA
zones
under
the
proposal
that
would
increase
to
1264,
so
an
increase
of
almost
800
acres.
J
Most
of
that
increase
is
in
Council
District,
two
by
adding
the
C
C
and
C
G
zones
that
exist
along
redwood,
road,
2100,
south
and
the
700
West
Corridor
district.
One
has
a
four
acre
increase
because
of
a
small
piece
of
CC
zone:
property
on
redwood,
road,
I
think
actually
yeah
east
of
I-15,
there's
204
acres
of
land
that
currently
allows
an
SRO,
that's
in
the
TSA
zone,
along
400
south
and
in
the
the
form-based
zones
in
the
central
ninth
neighborhood.
J
Again,
most
of
that
increase
in
hole
is
in
the
CC
and
C
G
zones,
which
account
for
the
largest
percentage
of
mixed
use
zone
land
in
the
city,
most
of
our
two
biggest
zones,
c
g
and
c
c.
So
our
proposal
we
are
intent
was
to
expand.
We're
in
srl
could
go
so
right
now,
because
we
are
so
restricted
and
most
of
the
areas
where
they
go
are
west
of
I
15
in
in
areas
where
there
there
is
a
concentration,
as
everybody
knows,
of
the
lower-income
housing
and
lower-income
households.
J
So
this
proposal
would
expand
that
to
more
places,
but
it
does
take
in
some
additional
neighborhoods,
where
those
two
conditions
also
exist
around
the
ballpark
at
3,
our
West,
Corridor,
etc.
I
think
there
were
some
things
out
of
that
meeting
that
were
beneficial
I.
Think
one
for
me,
one
of
the
big
take
takeaways
is,
is
the
importance
of
what
we
call
these
and
and
changing
those
that
terminology,
because
I
think
it
helps
change
the
conversation
a
little
bit.
So
that
is
certainly
something
that
I
think
we
would
hope
to
amend.
The
proposal
to
deal
with.
J
D
So,
in
my
opinion,
this
is
urgent.
This
is
something
that
we
as
a
council
should
do
what
we
can
to
instruct
the
Planning
Department
to
prioritize
these
changes
that
we've
been
working
with
the
housing
community
on
and
I'd
love
to
hear.
If
anybody
else
has
thoughts
on
the
urgency
of
this,
if
not
I'll,
just
keep
talking.
C
A
J
Would
think
that,
if
we're
going
to
expand
this
to
additional
zoning
districts,
then
we
would
basically
be
starting
over
meaning
we'd
have
to
engage
those
communities
where
those
zoning
districts
are
and
go
through,
that
that
process,
plus
Planning
Commission
and
then
retransmits,
stuff
and
I
think
part
of
the
one
of
the
the
point
of
prioritization
gets
at.
You
know
do
do
we
move
forward
with
what
we
have
proposed
and
then
try
to
deal
with
some
of
these
other
issues
as
more
of
a
longer-term
being
I.
D
Get
that
point
that
maybe
we
should
go
ahead
and
and
approve
the
process
that's
been
brought
to
us
today,
committing
to
an
expansion
of
the
applicable
zoning
and
I
think
you
know,
as
mayor
elect
I'm,
happy
to
commit
to
that,
and
we
didn't
have
that
kind
of
clarity
before
today.
It's
you
know
officially
later
today
at.
D
J
K
Just
from
a
calendaring
kind
of
logistics,
standpoint
I
think
we'll
probably
defer
to
planning
to
get
us
those
kind
of
tweaks
to
the
current
ordinance.
That's
before
the
council
I
think
the
council
could
then
decide
if
you
want
to
have
another
hearing
to
allow
the
public
to
comment
on
those
tweaks
or
you
could
just
say
that,
because
they're
such
small
tweaks
that
you
know
you
don't
need
to
reopen
a
public
hearing,
but
that
will
we'll
get
that
on
the
agenda
as
soon
as
we
get
those
changes
from
planning.
If
that's
okay
with.
C
H
H
M
H
H
It's
it's
strange
to
me
to
look
at
sort
of
the
zones
in
Poplar
Grove
and
mostly
Poplar
Grove.
Actually,
this
point
there's
four
or
five.
You
can
sort
of
look
at
them
that
are
residential
in
the
heart
of
the
residential
areas,
but
there
doesn't
other
than
sort
of
East
Central
City,
there's
nothing
else
in
the
city.
I'm.
Is
that
what
you're
talking
to?
As
far
as
we
have
a
lot
of
other
issues
to
sort
of
deal
with
yeah.
J
So
I
think
you're,
referring
mainly
to
the
rmu
35
and
45
zones,
which
occupies
such
a
small
percentage
of
land
in
the
city.
I
think
a
lot
of
what
our
plans
talk
about
and
I.
Think
a
lot
of
what
we
talk
about
as
as
planners
in
our
office
is
that
we
have
some
very
Auto,
centric
zoning
districts
in
the
city
that
we'd
like
to
start
replacing
with
some
of
these
other
zones
like
the
rme,
35
and
45.
The
Seabee
zone.
J
I
think
works
pretty
well
with
with
the
changes
that
were
made
a
few
years
ago
and
then
the
form-based
zones
to
address
some
of
the
other
heavier
more
intense
districts
like
the
CG
zone.
I
think
we
would.
We
would
love
to
be
able
to
have
the
work
capacity
to
be
able
to
start
making
those
changes,
because
we
do
think
they're.
A
critical
part
of
helping
the
city
achieve
goals,
reduce
the
dependency
on
the
car
and
improve
air
quality,
improve
equitability
and
economic
development
and
our
sustainability,
all
in
one
I
think
it's
I,
think
I.
H
Yeah
I
mean
mr.
chair,
the
only
the
only
I
think
it
is
a
pressing
issue.
I
think
the
panel
is
correct
in
saying
that
there's
a
certain
type
of
housing
we
just
don't
have
that-
would
really
help
in
a
lot
of
ways.
It's
smaller
size,
it's
easier
to
build
in
some
ways
because
it
costs
those
kind
of
things.
The
only
issue
here
is
that,
potentially
you
may
see
it
going
certain
residents,
there's
other
other
residential
areas
and
at
some
point
it
may
end
up
being
a
major
issue.
H
If
you
look
at
the
city,
there's
nothing
South
before
South,
essentially
for
residential
zones
itself
for
South,
the
North
temple,
the
east
of
downtown
or
there's
some
pockets
in
Poplar
Grove,
so
I
think
it's
gonna
be
important
for
us
to
follow
up
on
this
at
some
point
sooner
than
later,
or
figure
out
how
we
give
more
resources
to
planning
to
be
able
to
tackle
this.
You
otherwise
we're
gonna
have
this
on
the
books.
For
who
knows
how
long
and
we
may
see
it
still
be
on
equitable
in
some
ways
and
struggle
with
this.
A
F
A
D
L
L
You
yes,
hello,
Council,
I'm,
Hayley,
leek
I'm,
the
census
coordinator
for
the
city.
I'm
really
excited
to
be
here
I'm
here
to
talk
about
what
we've
been
working
on
for
the
last
couple
of
months.
Slc
counts
is
the
city's
census
efforts
and
it's
also
our
marketing
campaign.
Our
goal
is
to
achieve
a
complete
and
accurate
count
through
collaborative
partnerships,
and/or
supporting
communities
and
organizations
with
their
own
census
efforts.
Local
government
is
one
of
the
most
trusted
branches
of
government
currently,
and
so
we
play
a
really
active
role
in
encouraging
participation
and
engaging
the
community.
L
The
census
is
right
around
the
corner
online
and
paper
surveys
will
be
available,
come
March,
12,
2020
and
phone
responses
will
also
be
available
during
that
time.
April
1st
is
census
day,
and
this
is
the
day
that
you,
your
answers,
should
reflect
so
where
you
live
on
April
1st
who's
living
in
your
household,
how
many
kids,
even
though
the
census
comes
out
before
April
1st?
This
is
the
day
they're
asking
you
to
count
your
family
and
where
you
live.
L
April
through
May
is
reminder
period.
So
if
you
haven't
actually
completed
the
census,
online
you'll
get
a
postcard
in
the
mail
to
remind
you
to
do
it
and
you'll
also
get
a
paper
survey
May
through
July.
It's
called
the
non-response
follow-up
operation,
and
this
is
where
the
groundwork
begins.
So
this
is
where
enumerators
or
census
takers
will
start
going
door
to
door
to
collect
responses.
L
This
is
the
most
expensive
aspect
of
the
census,
and
it
is
also
data
collected
from
this
window
is
also
not
as
accurate
like,
for
instance,
let's
say
a
census,
taker
comes
to
an
apartment,
and
you
know
asks
you
how
many
people
live
in
your
household
and
your
some
families
aren't
going
to
give
up
the
you
know
that
they
might
have
ten
people
there
when
the
lease
says
two.
So
we
our
goal
is
to
really
encourage
participation
before
May.
L
L
Misinformation
in
cybersecurity
remained
the
Census
Bureau's
biggest
concern
leading
into
2020.
They
expect
that
similar
interference
that
we
saw
in
the
2016
election
will
also
happen
with
the
Census,
and
since
this
is
the
first
online
census,
cyber
security
is
a
big
concern.
Eighty
percent
of
the
United
States
population
will
be
completing
the
census
online
and
in
Salt
Lake
City.
That
means
a
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
residents
will
be
logging
online
to
put
very
personal
information.
L
So
we
do
have
to
play
a
really
active
role
in
letting
our
Salt
Lake
City
residents
know
how
to
protect
their
information
and
recognize
scams.
For
instance,
the
Census
Bureau
will
never
ask
you
for
a
social
security
number,
a
bank
account
or
donations.
So
that's
really
important
information
that
we
have
to
constantly
share.
L
The
Census
Bureau
is
also
experiencing
budget
shortfalls.
This
is
one
of
the
most
underfunded
census
in
the
last
three
or
thirty
years,
so
that
has
resulted
in
online
system
tests
being
neglected.
So
another
fear
is
that
come
March
12th
we'll
have
a
similar
experience
that
the
affordable
care
act
experienced
of
the
website
crashing.
We
honestly
just
don't
know,
because
there
wasn't
enough
testing
done.
L
Hiring
is
also
a
big
issue
for
the
census.
Right
now
in
Salt
Lake,
County
alone
they're
trying
to
hire
4,000
temporary
employees
in
a
really
good
economy.
These
temporary
employees
are
really
important
for
reaching
hard
to
count
populations
because
they
are
the
ones
going
door
to
door
and
getting
responses.
So
if
we
can't
hire
is
the
if
the
Census
Bureau
cannot
hire
enough
people
that
also
result
in
an
undercount.
L
And
finally,
we
have
to
address
the
environment
of
fear
in
which
the
census
is
taking
place.
Attempting
to
Addis
is
a
citizenship
question
to
suppress
Hispanic
and
immigrant
populations
from
participating
is
a
huge
issue,
even
though
the
question
is
not
on
the
census,
the
fear
still
exists.
It's
really
hard
because
the
Bureau
right
now
is
saying
that
that
question
has
not
intimidated
or
affected
anyone,
but
a
lot
of
research
has
been
done.
That
says
it
has
and
it
continue
it
will
affect
responses.
L
Hard,
so
Salt
Lake
SLC
counts
is
going
to
focus
on
reaching
the
following
hard
to
count
populations
specifically
reaching
the
west
side
of
Salt
Lake
City
and
Central
City.
The
majority
of
the
west
side
of
salt
lake
city
was
under
counted
in
the
2010
census,
so
our
efforts
will
really
focus
on
reaching
them.
Every
person
not
counted
in
this
year's
census
is
a
loss
of
one
thousand
eighty
six
dollars
per
person.
So
over
ten
years,
that's
ten
thousand
eight
hundred
and
sixty
dollars.
L
L
But
I
had
the
County
surveys
office
put
hard
to
count
census,
tracts
in
City,
Council
district,
so
it'd
be
easier
to
identify
and
Salt
Lake
City
right
now
has
13
hard
to
count
census,
tracts
that
we
have
to
focus
on
so
track.
1021
in
City,
Council,
District
4
is
one
of
the
hardest
account
in
Salt,
Lake,
City
and
one
of
the
hardest
tracks
to
count
in
the
nation.
L
This
track
is
located
between
South
temple
and
400
South
to
400
East
and
200
East
in
2010
only
59
point
three
percent
of
the
tracks:
household
mailed
back
their
census.
So
forty
forty
point,
seven
percent
did
not
participate
and
they
did
not
get
counted.
Factors
that
contribute
to
this
is
there's
a
lot
of
apartment
buildings
mixed
in
with
businesses,
but
also
lack
of
Internet
access,
and
this
is
why
they're
protected
to
be
under
counted
in
the
2020
census.
According
to
the
latest
American
Community
Survey.
L
Twenty
four
point:
eight
percent
of
this
tracks
household-
has
no
access
to
Internet
and
have
dial-up
only
while
five
point.
Five
percent
of
these
households
only
have
a
cellular
data
plan
and
it
might
be
costly
to
you.
Use
their
plan
for
non-essential
services
like
the
census
so
yeah.
This
is
our
primary
goal
to
really
address
these
tracks
and
look
at
them.
There
is
a
silver
lining,
because
this
is
the
first
online
census.
L
L
Yeah,
so
our
action
plan
is
going
to
focus
on
the
following
strategies:
we
really
have
to
empower
community
members
to
participate,
and
that
really
means
how
we
talk
about
the
census
and
leveraging
trusted
voices.
We
plan
on
hosting
town
halls
and
be
present
and
community
events
and
in
community
spaces.
L
We
also
again
have
to
address
that
fear
and
make
clear
that
personal
information
cannot
be
used
against
you.
Landlords
can't
have
access
to
the
information
government
agencies
and
especially
immigrations
and
custom
it
cus,
Immigration
and
Customs.
Enforcement
cannot
have
that
information.
We
also
have
to
be
ready
for
rapid
response
campaigns.
So
if
there
is
misinformation,
that's
out
there
we
have
to
get
in
front
of
it
and
make
sure
accurate
information
is
shared.
We
also
need
to
keep
residents
updated
on
activities
or
hat
that
are
happening
in
their
neighborhoods.
L
So
if
a
census
taker
is
coming
to
your
door,
communities
need
to
know
about
that.
They
need
to
know
how
to
identify
a
census
worker.
They
also
there's
also
online
resources
that
people
can
use
to
type
in
a
census
workers
name
to
check
that
they
actually
work
for
the
bureau.
So
that's
another
really
important
resource.
We
have
to
let
the
community
know
about
and
we
also
have
to
address
the
digital
divide.
L
It
is
really
important
that
non-english
speakers,
non-english
and
Spanish
speakers
have
the
ability
to
access
the
census
online
because
that's
where
fourteen
other
languages
are
available
for
them
to
complete
the
census.
So,
even
if
you
get
a
paper
application,
we
should
still
promote
the
ability
to
complete
the
census
online.
L
L
Salt
Lake
City
also
has
our
own
complete
count.
Committee
like
the
state
and
the
county.
The
committee
is
also
helping
with
our
census
efforts.
Committee
members
are
made
up
of
local
members
that
speak
the
language
of
their
communities
and
know
how
to
respond
to
like
fears
and
issues
around
the
census.
For
instance
the
Dream
Center,
the
director
of
the
Dream
Center,
is
on
the
committee
and
the
Dream
Center
is
a
key
tool
to
reaching
undocumented
darkest
community
members.
Anything
that
really
comes
from
the
dream:
centers,
really
trust
in
those
communities.
L
So
Alonso
Reina
Riva
Riva
Rolla
he's
the
first
person
we
are
highlighting
on
our
marketing
campaign.
He
is
the
director
of
the
dream
Center,
but
our
marketing
campaign
is
really
a
result
of
months
of
research.
Looking
at
like
effective
messaging
in
hard
to
count,
communities
like
the
Pacific
Islander
asian-american
or
the
Latin
X
community,
from
focus
groups
that
have
been
done
in
other
research.
There's
two
really
key
messages
that
resonate
with
these
undercounted
communities.
L
One
is
focusing
on
resources,
so
how
this
census,
data
and
funding
supports
schools,
supports
school
lunch
and
affordable
housing,
and
another
powerful
message
is
civic
and
community
engagement
and
duty,
so
completing
the
census
is
a
way
for
standing
up
for
your
community.
It's
a
way
to
make
sure
you
are
represented,
even
for
undocumented
community
members.
It's
a
way
for
them
to
have
a
say,
and
you
know
I'm
here
and
I
should
be
counted
so
really
pulling
off.
Those
two
messages
is
that's
what
our
marketing
and
messaging
strategy
is
focusing
on.
D
L
One
thing
we
is
what
we
really
have
to
do
and
as
a
citywide
effort
is
like
department
heads,
especially
if
they
have
boots
on
the
ground,
employees
need
to
be
able
to
trip
and
I'm
creating
a
training
to
talk
about
the
census.
So
anyone
who
works
with
the
community
members
should
be
able
to
talk
about
it
and
answer
questions
and
provide
that
reminder.
So
it's
getting
these
posters
in
community
spaces,
but
also
making
sure
that
we
have
like
bullet
points,
and
you
know
it's
coming.
You
know
it's
a
grassroots,
but
also
it's.
L
You
know
top-down,
that
everyone's
being
able
to
talk
about
it,
and
this
is
something
we're
really
going
to
kick
off
in
January
is
getting
these
posters
out
in
the
community
and
then
really
just
like
going
to
people
and
be
like
okay,
so
providers.
You
work
with
this
population
and
again
it
is
looking
at
the
census,
track
maps
and
being
able
to
make
sure
around
those
spaces
that
we
are
doing
like
outreach
events,
we're
holding
community
town
halls.
D
H
L
L
It's
all
public
knowledge,
so
there's
two
websites
that
this
information
will
be
available
so
hard
to
count
2020
and
then
through
the
Census
Bureau,
it's
called
Rome,
so
the
Census
Bureau
will
be
updating,
though,
and
we
also
work
in
collaboration
with
the
Census
Bureau.
So
I
currently
work
with
two
partnership
specialists
and
they
provide
a
lot
of
helpful
information
and
fortunately
Salt
Lake
City
is
a
huge
priority
of
them.
So
we
are
kind
of
collaborating
to
look
at
these
maps,
but
it
is
available
online.
G
L
100%-
and
that
is
my
call
to
action
which
I'm
kind
of
building
to
I,
don't
know
if
I'm
doing
a
good
job
at
it,
but
it
is
that
these
resources
that
I
might
not
know
of,
but
ever
it
is
engaging
your
networks.
So
we
will,
on
our
website,
have
all
these
resources
available
like
talking
points
powerpoints
these
posters,
so
it
is
engaging
that
network
and
being
like
what
does
your
census
effort?
Look
like
here?
Are
these
make
sure
you're
talking
about
it,
and
it
can't
just
be
like
a
one-time
thing.
L
I
know
like
some
of
the
consulates
are
on
the
state,
complete
count
committee,
and
so
this
is
also
what
our
complete
count
committee
looks
like,
and
what
our
strategy
reflects
is
what
the
state's
not
doing
and
what
the
county's
not
doing,
and
then
also
what
the
Census
Bureau's
not
doing
so
we
are
trying
to
divide
and
conquer.
In
that
sense,.
L
So
word
on
the
street
is
the
Census.
Bureau
is
working
really
closely
with
the
LDS
Church,
but
they're
supposed
to
be
announcement
at
General
Conference
to
complete
the
census,
but
it
is
especially
for
the
Hispanic
and
you
know,
Latin
X
community,
working
with
like
a
lot
of
the
Catholic
churches
and
that's
another
focus
for
our
complete
count
committee
to
reach
out
to
those
trusted
local
leaders.
Thank.
G
L
So
with
our
marketing
and
messaging
strategy,
that
is
also
another
really
key
point
of
what
our
complete
count
committee
does
focus
on.
They,
our
committee
members
were
really
selected
and
how
you
know
wide
of
a
network
that
they
do
have.
So
that's
really
important
part.
We
also
are
making
sure
that
all
our
marketing
is
in
Spanish
it'd
be
great
to
have
other
languages,
because
I
think
the
last
time
I
saw
talked
to
Salt
Lake
District,
there's
like
80
languages
spoken
in
Salt,
Lake
City,
so
getting
our
materials
translated
as
many
languages
as
possible.
L
L
So
it's
really
important
that
we
do
engage
the
community
through
these
town
halls
and
we
have
a
lot
coming
up
before
the
year
ends,
and
these
are
really
great
ways
for
community
members
to
craft
their
own
messages
about
the
census
and
focus
on
what
they
want
to
talk
about,
because
what
I
might
want
to
talk
about
to
the
Latin
X
community
would
be
different
than
what
a
trusted
leader
would.
So
we
are
providing
the
resources
to
host
their
own
town
halls,
but
also
letting
a
lot
of
communities
lead.
The
effort
on
that.
L
And
so
we
do
have
our
website
up,
it's
SLC
gov,
slash
census,
and
we
have
it
translated
in
Spanish
as
well,
and
we
also
have
an
email
that
community
members
can
use
to
reach
out
to
to
say:
hey
I
noticed
this
I'm
a
little
confused
or
if
they
want
to
schedule
a
town-hall.
We
just
got
our
posters
done
last
week,
so
we
are
really
I'm
really
trying
to
think
about
how
to
get
the
word
out
there
and
that's
what
our
next
complete
count
committee
is
going
to
focus
on.
L
So
if
you
want
to
attend
that
in
December,
that'd
be
awesome
but
yeah.
To
conclude,
the
census
is
political
empowerment
because
everyone
counts
equally,
regardless
of
immigration,
status,
age,
race,
income
ability
or
gender
and
I
think
that's
really
important
that
we
have
to
convey
to
the
community
and
we
also
have
to
let
them
know
how
to
be
safe
when
completing
the
Census
and
voiding
scams,
and
that
is
where
City
Council
really
does
come
and
play.
L
If
anything
is
overlooked
to
make
sure
we're
addressing
it,
2020
is
an
incredible
opportunity
to
see
what
our
city
looks
like
after
ten
years,
and
so
we
do
have
to
make
sure
that
we're
using
all
our
resources
to
count
everybody
yeah
I,
really
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
present
I
really.
Thank
you.
The
back
to
our
complete
count
committee.
We
do
have
staff
from
the
City
Council
participating
and
it's
been
really
like
a
great
opportunity
to
learn
about
a
lot
of
programs.
I
wasn't
aware
of
so
it's
great
to
have
that
support.
L
We
also
have
members
from
can
on
the
committee,
so
it
is
really
folding
in
a
lot
of
city
employees.
What
we're
working
on
as
it
is,
and
let's
see
we
are
other
huge
partners
in
this
effort-
is
the
state's
complete
count
committee,
the
county
and
the
Census
Bureau,
but
yeah.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity.
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
more
questions.
Thank.
H
I'm
not
gonna,
look
at
Jenna
cuz
she's
making
faces
at
me.
Thank
you
for
this
I
think
as
we
get
closer
to
it
and
all
the
websites
kind
of
broad
right
now
cuz.
This
doesn't
details
on
it
as
we
get
closer
I'd
love
to
see
a
breakdown,
a
little
more
of
the
Census
Bureau
responsibilities,
some
of
their
activities,
the
county,
the
state
county
and
then
the
city
and
what
gaps
were
feeling
specifically
that'd,
be
helpful
for
me
really.
H
The
second
piece
was
transition
from
the
current
administration
to
the
next
administration.
Right
now
it's
organized
under
dr.
C
liquor
echt.
How
does
this
look
going
forward
to
January
I
guess
we
have
a
sense
of
that
right
now,
I
mean
it's
sort
of
the
lights
on
you.
It
sounds
like
so,
if
anything
happens
to
you
were.
L
H
H
L
Am
trying
to
make
sure
that
there's
whatever
does
happen,
there's
like
things
in
place
where
it's
not
gonna
like
come
crashing
down,
but
like
it,
the
resources
that
we
have
established
is
a
good
jumping-off
point
either
way
like
the
website
and
the
marketing
and
the
research
behind
it.
But
yeah.
That's
why
I
haven't
scheduled
any
I've
scheduled,
maybe
like
three
Town
Hall's,
past
January,
but
then
I'm
holding
off
okay.
H
I
would
I
would
love
as
much
detailed
information
as
possible
specifically
about
how
do
we?
How
do
we
reassure
folks
who
are
nervous
about
this,
that
they're
safe
or
can
we
I
guess
the
details
of
it?
The
details
of
what
questions
are
answered
as
much
as
we
possibly
can
about
where
the
information
goes
and
how
its
processed
anything
we
can
get
to
help
this.
The
second
thing
I'm
wondering
a
as
a
councilmember
I'd
love
to
see
as
much
information
as
possible
as
well
to
use
anything
we're
doing.
H
N
L
And
a
thing
I
really
learned
to
through
my
couple
months
on
the
job
is
that
like
it
does
have
to
be
flexible
too,
because
I
was
doing
a
tabling
event
and
I
had
an
elderly
woman
come
up
to
me
and
she's,
like
I
said
you
know
it's
the
first
online
census,
she's
like
oh
I'm,
not
gonna,
do
it
online
I
want
to
make
sure
someone's
employed
in
the
city,
and
they
have
that
job
and
I
want
to
talk
with
them.
I'm,
like
that's
great,
that's
fair,
you
know,
so
it
is
every
that.
L
H
Last
question
is
not
your
question
necessarily
the
Census
Bureau
but
I
know
they're,
looking
for
a
lot
of
employees,
temporary
and
seasonal
employees,
so
to
speak.
Yes,
they've
come
to
community
councils,
I've
seen
them
there
in
other
places.
It
may
be
helpful
for
us
to
get
that
out
to
our
communities
as
well
for
an
employment
opportunity,
folks
who
may
not
normally
join
this,
who
may
be
interested
in
helping
out
and
getting
a
second
job.
Yes,.
L
L
F
L
G
Much
I'm
thinking
how
we
market
this
and
how
we
can
help-
and
you
know
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
were
gonna,
do
TV
advertising
or
Facebook
sponsored
Facebook,
ads,
I'm
sure
you're
thinking
about
it.
But
if
you
are
gonna
us
to
associate
TV,
you
know
feel
free.
Maybe
this
is
an
offline
thing,
but
I'm
offering
me
talking
about
the
sense
of
yours
in
Spanish
if
you'd
like,
so
that
we
can
publish
that
as
well,
so
that
so
the
folks
that
do
speak,
Spanish
feel
like.
G
L
Is
so
helpful
and
that's
exactly
what
we're
looking
forward
to,
especially
like
we
really
do
have
to
pick
up
a
lot
of
slack,
we're
like
the
state
has
left
off
and
the
county,
or
not
the
county
or
the
state
and
the
Census
Bureau,
because
our
message
does
have
for
it
to
be
meaningful
impactful.
It
does
need
to
be
local,
like
when
people
hear
Salt,
Lake
City
complete
the
census,
it's
gonna
be
more
than
like.
You
know:
national
beer,
Census
Bureau
advertising.
So
that's
a
really
again,
very
good
connection.
A
C
L
We
have
I
have
met
with
them
a
couple
times
and
they're
waiting
to
actually
hear
back
if
they
get
the
state
grant
to
really
support
some
of
the
things
we
want
to
do
and
that's
another
hard
thing.
A
lot
of
community
organizations
are
on
hold
until
they
hear
that
if
they
have
funding
from
the
state
to
really
do
what
they
want
to
do.
That's
the
same
thing
with
our
partnership
with
the
Westside
coalition
and
how
many
town
halls
that
we'd
like
to
hold
its.
If
we,
if
there's
funding
any.
L
A
I
Thank
You
councilmember,
Rogers
I
just
wanted
to
add
additional
information.
Thank
you
for
your
question,
related
to
the
school
district
and
Thank
You
Haley
for
answering
in
a
wonderful
way.
I
just
have
additional
information.
The
school
district
actually
reached
out
to
us
through
the
superintendent's
office
some
months
ago,
and
we
assisted
in
facilitating
a
connection
between
the
governor's
census
committee
and
the
school
district,
so
helped
bring
them
on
board
to
that
group.
There.
I
The
superintendent
at
that
time
expressed
interest
strong
interest
in
help
in
partnering,
with
the
city
of
Salt
Lake
and
being
able
to
help
with
outreach,
so
that
intent
has
been
stated
and
we've
been
working
really
hard
to
include
them.
I
guess
the
rest
of
the
story
is
whatever
formal
processes.
They
must
go
through
to
officially
be
a
partner,
but
we
have
engaged
with
them
and
helped
them
to
I
I.
A
A
A
O
M
M
D
M
I'm
just
going
to
give
a
little
bit
of
brief
background
information
and
then
let
the
administration
folks
who
know
the
details,
take
it
away
Thanks.
So,
as
you
may
know,
the
administration
has
negotiated
some
new
agreements
with
the
developers
of
the
Northwest
pipeline
building
aka,
the
old
Public
Safety
Building
after
these
developments,
essentially
the
contracts
that
the
council
approved
in
2018
were
allowed
to
expire.
So
they're
going
to
talk
a
lot
about
this
today,
we're
only
talking
about
the
Magnolia
section.
This
is
a
three
component
housing
project
that
includes
mixed
income
and
market
rate
housing.
M
M
The
bottom
line
is
the
Magnolia
building
is
going
to
be
built
to
the
same
specifications
that
were
originally
planned,
the
ones
that
the
council
initially
approved
in
2018.
The
difference
is
in
some
details,
including
the
structure
of
ownership
of
the
land.
This
land
will
actually
remain
with
the
city
of
the
under
city
ownership
and
offered
in
a
long-term
lease
to
shelter
the
homeless,
which
will
run
the
building
that
services
and
the
building.
M
P
All
right,
so
this
property's
located,
we
alluded
to
a
lot
one
of
the
proposed
subdivision
known
as
violin
school
Commons
lot.
One
is
north
of
the
Public
Safety
Building
on
300
east,
and
it
will
consist
of
65
units
and
five
floors.
The
project
has
1,200
square
feet
of
enterprise,
space
and
services
and
programs
and
support
built
into
that
on
the
ground
floor.
P
As
far
as
the
public
benefits
go
for
the
99
year,
ground
lease,
which
will
which
will
have
a
restriction
on
it
for
the
term
of
that
lease,
it's
pretty
straightforward,
I
mean
this
development
utilizes
unused
surface
parking
behind
that
building
for
the
benefit
of
the
most
vulnerable
populations
and
provides
these
resources
and
services
all
in
one
place.
So
this
is
significantly
different
than
the
original
deal.
P
The
the
initial
deal
is
proposed
to
be
a
3.7
million
dollar
sellers
known
for
the
overall
property.
To
me,
only
2
million
in
housing
trust
fund
loans.
This
proposal
today
is
simply
looking
at
just
lot.
1
is
phase
1.
The
the
second
phase
and
the
remainder
of
the
property
bill
will
be
negotiated
separately
and
is
being
negotiated.
Currently
so
we've
got
a
$710,000
value
for
this
property
and
we're
offering
a
lease
for
that.
P
A
D
Well,
maybe
you'll
answer
it.
Bailey
I,
don't
know,
I
wanted
you
to
contextualize
this
ground
lease.
This
Community
Land
Trust
opportunity,
if
I'm,
if
I'm
wrong
and
calling
it
a
Community,
Land
Trust
opportunity
correct
me,
but
that's
that
seems
like
what
we're
getting
at
here
where
we
own
the
land
we
lease
it.
It
guarantees
affordability
in
perpetuity.
Essentially,
this
is:
is
this
the
first
one
we've
done
I,
don't.
P
K
So
a
key
Land
Trust,
the
way
we've
set
it
up
so
far
is
for
a
single-family
or
small
multi-family,
home
or
homes
to
be
on
land
that
the
city
maintains
ownership.
So
that's
a
similarity,
but
in
this
regard,
ground
lease
is
for
a
lot
larger
and
a
permanent
supportive
housing
that
folks
would
now
be
paying
for
a
mortgage.
K
A
D
K
G
Just
sort
of
clarification
and
for
my
mind
to
understand
this
better
initial
project
was
three
housing
developments,
so
the
Magnolia,
which
is
a
permanent,
supportive
housing,
then
the
metropolitan
market
rate
and
then
Liberty.
It's
mixed
income
housing.
Then
the
request:
how
much
was
the
request
for
it
was
that
for
the
three
projects
or
just
one
project?
Yes,.
P
C
F
N
A
H
H
I
guess
I
would
advocate,
then
have
a
discussion,
so
it's
clear
going
forward
for
everybody.
We
now
have
an
inventory.
We
have
lists
right,
which
is
a
great
great
step
and
took
a
lot
of
work
on
the
airport.
So
thank
you
going
forward.
How
do
we
simplify
it
enough?
So
we
have
a
very
clear
picture
at
any
one
point
in
time
of
our
housing
assets,
for
instance
our
usable
commercial
assets.
Perhaps
our
strange
parcels,
we
don't
know
what
to
do
with
assets,
those
kind
of
things.
Yes,
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
out?
H
P
C
We
want
to
be
able
to
categorize
everything
you
know
to
their
highest
and
best
use,
so
we
can
go
in.
We
can
look
at
those
properties
that
are
irregular.
The
kind
of
the
odd
ones
we're
not
sure
about
what
to
do
with,
and
then
the
ones
like
this,
where
there
they
are
encumbered-
and
we
know
what
they're
encumbered
with
and
for
how
long
and
they'll
be
organized
in
that
way,
so
that
they
don't
fall
through
the
cracks
just
to
offer
some
additional
information.
C
One
of
the
main
responsibilities
of
jp's
position
is
capital
asset
managers
to
do
just
that,
honestly,
is
to
make
sure
that
not
only
do
we
have
accurate,
up-to-date
records
of
our
city
assets,
but
also
that
we're
thinking
and
planning
strategically
and
proactively
with
regard
to
those
assets,
categorizing
them
looking
at
our
needs
and
how
our
needs
align
with
what
we
already
own
them.
How
we
can
make
sure
that
we
protect
certain
assets
for
certain
future
needs
those
kinds
of
things
and
really
it
just
comes
down
to
time.
C
H
H
C
H
H
I
think
I'm
coming
at
it
also
from
a
perspective
from
a
housing
perspective,
not
just
an
asset
perspective,
but
in
housing
perspective.
How
do
we
have
a
quick
way
to
look
at
all
of
the
city
investment
into
housing,
particularly
without
having
to
go
to
multiple
lists,
or
if
we
do,
is
there
a
way
to
simplify
it
down?
So
we
can
do
that
easily
I.
H
H
M
A
A
D
Let's
keep
on
going
on
the
key
project,
changes
slide.
If
we
could
go
there,
the
last
one
on
the
current
that
mentions
the
one-year
option
for
the
developer
to
purchase
the
remaining.
Can
you
give
us
any?
Obviously
that's
a
negotiation,
that's
probably
in
flux
right
now,
it's
a
dramatically
different
proposal
than
we
had
initially.
Can
you
talk
to
us
about
maybe
really
broadly
the
two
potential
outcomes?
Let's
say
that
they
choose
not
to
exercise
that
option
is
I
I,
think
one
years
probably
standard,
but
I'm
also
wondering
about
the.
P
Can
take
a
crack
at
it
just
after
that
I
think
we've
had
you
know
second
third
position
developers
from
the
RFP
that
have
been
calling
and
asking
and
asking
so
there's
a
lot
of
interest
in
the
property
I,
don't
know
if
there's
much
of
a
perception
of
any
issues
with
the
permanent
supportive
housing
that
we've
we've
heard,
but
moving
forward
the
the
option.
We
have
proposed
terms
that
we've
given
to
the
developer
and
I
think
we're
pretty
set
in
those
the
one.
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N
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Hi
Kimberly
Choi
trous
with
the
City
Attorney's
Office
I,
think
what
you're
asking
is,
how
would
the
city
enforce
the
provision
of
supportive
services?
So
it
wouldn't
be
our
services
contract,
but
we
do
have
a
restrictive
use
agreement
that
would
be
recorded
against
the
property
for
the
entire
length
of
the
ground
lease
that
will
require
them
to
operate
the
property
as
a
permanent
supportive
housing
facility.
G
I
I
Then
well
it
wouldn't
be
automatic,
so
the
city
would
have
to
take
some
action
to
enforce
that
and
terminate
the
ground
lease
and
take
back
the
building.
So
at
that
time,
I
think
you'd
probably
make
that
evaluation.
But
yes,
so
if
the
ground
lease
runs
its
course,
so
at
the
end
of
the
99
years
the
city
gets
ownership
of
the
improvements
at
that
time.
So
if
the,
if
the
ground
lease
is
terminated
by
the
city
any
time,
then
that
would
be
a
remedy
of
the
city.
A
Recourse
and
just
to
follow
up
to
councilmember
Valdemar
else's
question.
We
are
in
the
fourth
position.
Is
that
correct?
So
in
essence,
there
are
three
other
entities
that
would
be
ahead
of
us
if
and
I
know
it's
debt,
it's
we're
playing
what-if
scenarios,
but
we
would
be
in
the
fourth
position
in
order
to
try
and
there's.
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I
D
I
The
city
is
frequently
in
a
very
junior
position:
I,
don't
know
that
there's
any
similarities
between
this
and
the
State
Street
structure,
although
I
certainly
appreciate
the
sensitivity
to
what
happens.
If
this
all
falls
apart
and
I
would
really
like
the
opportunity,
if
you
don't
mind
to
do
a
little
bit
of
thinking
about
how
it
would
work
with
the
other
lenders,
if
we
ended
up
foreclosing
on
the
ground,
lease
terminating
the
ground
lease.
What
happens
to
those
loans.
I
Matter
about
that,
so
that
I'm,
giving
you
like
information
that
I
feel
comfortable
with,
because
it's
it's
complicated.
So
if
you
were
to
foreclose
on
like
your
Housing
Trust
Fund
loan,
you
would
take
property.
The
improvements
senior
are
subject
to
the
senior
lenders
right
and
I.
Think
that's
something
more
like
what
happened
with
State
Street.
But
if
you're
talking
about
taking
back
the
ground
lease
terminating
the
ground,
lease
and
I
have
to
just
go
back
and
figure
out
what
happens
to
the
senior.
M
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H
Okay
on
the
30-year
0%
lease
1.5
million
I
believe,
is
that
accurate?
It's
a
loan
for
1.5.
Sorry,
not
the
least
the
1.5
million
dollar
loan
0%
interest
for
30
years,
the
term.
What
would
be
the
interest
rate
now
and
what
would
be
the
total
amount
we
would
collect?
Had
we
done
a
normal,
typical
interest
rate
on
this.
N
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A
A
6,
&
7
of
our
agenda
go
into
item
8,
which
is
approval
of
funds
for
fiscal
year,
2019
20
funding,
our
future
housing
program
applications
and
we
have
Allyson
at
the
table
again:
Allison
Rowland
from
counsel
staff,
Lonnie
Edgerton
guy
from
she
was
the
director
hand
she's
here,
yes
and
as
Jennifer
Schumann
the
deputy
director
here
as
well.
Yes,
we
are
good.
A
M
So
mr.
chair,
maybe
as
administrative
staff
gets
settled,
I
can
remind
the
council
that
this
is
strictly
a
discussion
of
the
applications.
In
the
end,
the
redesigned
application
process
for
the
funding,
our
future
housing
programs.
This
is
something
that
the
council
was
involved
in
during
the
last
and
during
this
year's
budget
discussions
having
to
do
with
the
holding
account
that
was
established.
While
the
council
learned
more
about
each
of
these
programs
that
were
proposed
to
take
part
in
this,
so
I
believe
Lonnie
and
Jennifer
Schumann,
who
is
deputy
director?
M
Sorry
yes
of
hand,
will
have
all
this
information
for
you.
There
will
be
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
the
final
budget
numbers
for
FY
19
for
funding
our
future
programs
most
likely
on
December
3rd.
So
there
will
be
time
to
discuss
those
but
we're
going
to
concentrate
on
this
one
today,
so
that
we
can
help
them
meet
their
deadlines
and
get
all
these
programs
under
contract
as
soon
as
possible
and.
H
K
Chair
vice-chair
acting
chair,
thank
you
for
having
us
council
members.
We
just
wanted
to
start
off
really
quickly
as
a
quick
history
of
where
we've
been
in
the
past.
You
know
six
or
so
months.
During
the
budget
cycle,
we
worked
on
identifying
a
process
that
might
fit
more
closely
or
be
kind
of
reflective
of
our
usual
CDBG
process
or
HUD
funding
process
so
that
we
are
able
to
vet
community
needs.
Have
community
members
of
partners
provide
us
with
applications
in
August
we
talked
about
a
different
kind
of
process
and
what
we
went
through
on
year.
K
The
resolution
that
would
allow
us
to
move
forward
with
this
application
process
so
that
we
can
work
with
our
partners
to
get
under
contract
to
utilize
the
funding
our
future
dollars.
We
need
to
do
that
in
December
in
order
for
it
to
move
along
so
in
the
coming
year
and
actually
right
now
we
have
the
application
process
open
so
that
we
can
work
through
this
coming
mayor's
budget
cycle
and
the
spend
the
budget
cycle
into
May
June
of
next
year
and
have
time
for
a
board
process.
K
K
Okay,
I'm
gonna
allow
Jennifer
since
she's
been
really
closely
working
with
barb
Marino,
who
unfortunately
can't
be
with
us
today
to
work
through
you
have
in
your
packets
or
it
was
in
the
transmittal
a
one-page
summary
of
each
of
the
applications,
and
then
the
log
is
what
we
have
Oh.
What
we
are
trying
to
have.
K
It's
it
is
a
very
brief
summary
of
each
of
the
applications
and
the
rec
did
dollar
amount
for
the
request.
That
was
provided.
So
do
you
want
to
start
or
would
you
are
there
any
questions
for
initially
what
I've
just
discussed
or
other
things
that,
in
your
review
of
the
transmittal
you'd
like
us
to
answer?
First.
K
N
In
the
transmittal
itself,
there's
a
table
that
gives
the
breakdown
of
the
different
funding
amounts
that
council
has
set
aside
earlier
this
year.
You
can
see
in
that
table
that
there
were
over
3.2
million
dollars
worth
of
requests
and
just
as
a
reminder,
we
have
1
million
seven
75
thousand,
so,
like
always,
there's
always
more
need
than
the
dollars
we
have
available,
and
so
we
are
prepared
to
go
through
the
log
and
talk
about
each
application.
If
you
would
like
I'm
just
real
briefly
to
go
through
those
and
then
discuss.
K
N
M
A
T
K
N
H
A
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N
I'm,
the
second
application
is
Road
home
house
20.
You
may
be
familiar
with
this
one.
It
is
targeting
funding
and
support
to
the
top
20
users
of
our
emergency
services
system.
I'm,
the
council
set
aside
200
sorry
nope,
250
thousand
dollars
was
allocated
for
this
purpose.
However,
a
hundred
and
25
was
released
immediately,
I'm
starting
July
1,
so
this
request
fills
the
remainder
125,000
I'm.
The
road
home
is
interested
in
assisting
as
many
folks
as
they
can
through
this
process.
So
currently
I
think
they
have
27
folks
on
the
I'm
on
the
program
and.
N
Yeah,
that
is
under
contract,
and
they
are
spending
from
that
number
three.
The
housing
authority
of
Salt
Lake
City,
is
a
landlord
assurance
and
incentive
program.
I'm
you'll
see
that
this
program
is
very
similar.
We
know
that
the
state
has
a
landlord
insurance
program,
but
it
does
have
some
limitations
and
because
of
those
limitations,
it's
been
a
little
bit
difficult
for
the
state
to
administer
those
funds.
N
The
housing
authority
has
come
forward,
come
forward
with
a
very
similar
request,
I'm,
but
it
has
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
so,
rather
than
targeting
just
section
eight
or
housing
choice
about
your
tenants,
it
is
open
to
I'm
anyone
that
is
below
60%
ami
I'm.
In
addition,
it
they
are
really
focusing
an
existing
program
and
being
able
to
leverage
that
so
they
have
a
program
at
landlord
outreach
team
and
their
job
is
to
work
with
landlords
to
house
hard
to
house
clients.
N
Unfortunately,
that
team
has
no
financial
resources
available
to
help
incentivize
landlords,
and
so
it
ends
up
being
a
lot
of
talk
and
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
relationship
building,
but
nothing
financially
to
help
support
that.
So
this
landlord
assurance
and
incentive
program
would
allow
them
to
have
dollars
available
to
provide
additional
rents.
N
This
program
would
be
for
client
housing
payments
for
those
that
are
staying
at
YWCA's,
Critchlow
apartments
that
that
krh
kathleen
ropes
and
huntsman
apartments.
So
the
program
is
designed
to
provide
18
months
of
short-term
rental
system
for
three
households
and
for
which
they
feel
would
probably
be
three
adults.
Ten
children
in
totality
I'm.
A
N
They
are
two
and
three-bedroom
units.
They
are
located
on
YWCA's
campus,
so
women
who
are
victims
of
domestic
violence
and
can
go
from
their
shelter
into
kind
of
this
transitional
housing
apartment
complex
that
YWCA
owns
and
operates,
and
they've
had
some
funding
cuts
in
the
last
while
which
has
made
it
challenging
for
them
to
actually
fill
all
of
the
units
that
are
that
are
there.
So
currently
they
have
vacant
units
and
they
are
looking
for
financial
support
to
help
fill
those
units.
So
this
this
funding
would
helps
fill
three
units.
N
A
N
T
T
N
Exactly
the
next
application
is
Alliance
house.
It
too
is
a
rent
assistance,
application
for
a
targeted
population
and
they're
targeting
those
that
homeless
adults
with
severe
and
persistent
mental
illness.
We
abbreviate
that
as
spimi
sp
I,
so
the
agency
will
identify
community-based
housing
opportunities.
Alliance
House
does
have
some
units,
however,
they
are
really
focused
on
on
placing
folks
in
the
community,
and
these
folks
often
have
housing.
N
Barriers
may
not
have
the
means
for
application
fees
deposits
and
may
need
some
assistance
with
rent,
so
their
intent
is
to
work
with
the
homeless
population
and
work
to
get
them
housed
immediately,
while
they're
working
towards
getting
longer
term
voucher,
support,
I
have
not
been
identifying
the
request
amount
or
the
mayor's
recommended
budget
amount,
so
I'm
happy
to
to
add
those
in.
So
this
request
is
at
a
hundred
and
eighty
one
thousand
dollars
I'm.
The
mayor
recommended
this
at
forty
thousand.
A
K
A
N
Volunteers
of
America
is
the
next
one
intensive
case
management,
team
and
they're,
asking
for
rent
assistance
for
a
targeted
population
at
their
full
request.
Their
request
is
four
hundred
and
seven
thousand
a
little
over
four
hundred
and
seven
thousand
dollars,
and
the
mayor
recommended
budget
is
a
hundred
thousand
the
difference.
There
is
really
just
an
acknowledgment
that
there
was
not
a
lot
of
funding
set
aside
in
this
category
and
to
encourage
Volunteers
of
America
to
leverage
other
community
resources
to
support
this
team.
N
N
N
This
application
looks
to
create
and
financially
support
a
new
organization
called
Utah
renter's
Association
in
an
effort
to
provide
community
based
education
around
tenants
rights,
and
they
anticipate
targeting
areas
of
the
city
where
evictions
are
the
highest.
The
unique
thing
about
this
application
is
that
they
look
to
develop
leaders
from
within
the
community,
so
targeting
a
larger
apartment
complexes
where
evictions
are
happening
most
frequently
to
work
with
tenants
that
are
there
and
educate
them
on
on
tenants
rights
in
an
effort
to
help
that
information
spread
throughout
that.
N
We
were
running
very
quickly
to
get
this
together
and
I
missed
one
of
the
one-pagers,
so
I'll
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
this
one
and
again
I
apologize
for
that
and
I'll
work
with
Allison
to
get
that
to
you,
I'm,
so
Salt,
Lake,
Community,
Action,
Program
prevent
and
eliminate
housing
discrimination,
and
there
ask
was
300,000.
The
mayor
looked
to
support
that
at
two
hundred
and
twenty
four
thousand
again
an
acknowledgement
of
the
funding
that
we
had
available.
N
So
you
talk
immunity
action
is
looking
to
looking
for
the
implementation
of
a
landlord-tenant
mediation
program
to
help
with
the
flow
of
evict
tenants
into
the
Social
Services
pipeline.
So
this
is
thinking
a
little
bit
upstream.
Instead
of
waiting
until
a
household
falls
into
homelessness
being
able
to
address
the
issue
before
they,
they
arrive
it
at
the
HRC's
door.
The
median
cost
of
eviction
averages
$7,000
in
96
percent
of
them,
I'm
show
up
to
or
sorry
96
percent
of
the
cases
are
not
being
represented
by
a
lawyer.
N
The
current
system
creates
housing,
discrimination
and
false
economic
barriers
due
to
the
fact
that,
while
not
criminal
and
those
with
evictions
are
often
have
higher
housing
challenges,
getting
rehoused
or
I'm
being
able
to
find
places
to
rent,
I'm
and
often
having
to
pay
additional
rents
or
additional
deposits.
I'm
the
current
program
really
focuses
on
those
that
are
at
200%
of
poverty
and
below.
So
you
see
a
so
to
put
that
into
terminology
that
we
use.
Typically,
here,
that's
30%,
AMI
I'm.
N
What
you
talk
to
mediation
is
looking
at
doing
is
increasing
the
funds
to
support
those
at
60%
ami
and
below,
so
it
will
double
the
the
ami
limitation
there
in
the
past
12
months,
the
the
current
program
has
helped
a
hundred
and
sixty-four
households
which
fell
between
that
30
to
60%
ami.
So
definitely
the
need
is
there.
While
they
were
able
to
help
those
households,
there
was
no
financial
support
for
those
households,
and
so
they
often
find
themselves
still
in
a
challenging
housing
situation.
D
N
They
receive
about
400
calls
a
month
that
is
specific
to
eviction.
Now.
That
could
be
a
variety
of
stages
within
that
most
often
it
is
I've
received
a
notice
to
vacate
an
eviction
notice,
I'm,
all
the
way
through
I'm
showing
up
to
court
and
I
have
no
idea
what
to
do
so.
There's
400
calls
them
on
400
calls
a
month
and.
D
I
want
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
small
group
meeting
you
offered
I
learned
a
lot
about
all
of
these
applications
and
the
proposal
that's
before
us
today,
and
this
is
the
one
that
I
want
to
make
a
recommendation
on
to
my
peers.
I
think
that
the
Community
Development
Corporation
of
Utah
application
is
a
it's
a
nice
idea,
but
we
are,
we
see
through
the
cap,
should
I
call
it
the
cap
program,
yeah
DBA,
you
see
a
whatever
you
call
it
on
a
48.
D
Exists
that
Zach
that's
helping
people
that
are
coming
for
hundred
calls
a
month
that
are
coming
through
the
door
that
they
don't
have.
The
resources
for
I
would
propose
that
we
allocate
the
76,000
that's
recommended
for
item
7
to
item
8,
to
bring
them
up
to
their
full
amount
request
of
300,000
so
that
they
can
reach
the
people
that
are
already
coming
through
their
doors.
D
I
think
that
if
the
CDC
wants
to
come
back
in
subsequent
rounds-
and
it
would
help
me
to
see
evidence
of
that
type
of
community
leader
education
programming
that
has
worked
in
other
cities
or
areas
because
the
nature
of
a
transient
population
is
that
it's
really
difficult
to
create
leaders
and
that
population
is
difficult
to
reach
that
population
many
times.
But
here
with
cap
they
have
four
hundred
calls
a
month
coming
in
and
they
have
a
program
already
created.
So
I
think
we
should
fully
fund
item
eight.
A
F
So
right
now
we
don't
have
a
handle
on
the
dollar
amounts
that
that
lapse.
The
dollar
amounts
that
were
appropriated
versus
the
dollar
amounts
spent
they've.
Given
us
a
lot
of
information,
but
it's
not
in
the
same
format
that
that
the
other
departments
use,
and
so
we're
struggling
just
a
little
bit
with
that
and
for
the
future,
will
recommend
a
system
to
address
that,
but
for
now
I
think
it's
safe
to
say
that
we
don't
have
total
information.
F
A
F
Other
thing
that
we
wondered
is
based
on
your
conversations
of
the
past
week
or
so,
and
the
issues
of
concern
in
the
community
about
housing.
If
there
is
money
that
was
dropped
if
unbalanced,
if
there
are
other
needs
that
you
need
to
consider
it,
it
wouldn't
have
to
be
part
of
this
process
as
far
as
I
know.
So
let
us
make
you
a
list
of
what
we
know
and
what
we
don't
know.
A
F
G
My
comment
to
this
is:
how
do
we
proactively
work
on
this
funds
reports
for
next
year?
When
so
that
we
don't
have
to
delay
any
of
these
conversations?
Is
it
possible
that
we
work
on
a
system
that
says
these
are
the
funds
that
we
have
asked
for?
These
are
what's
being
used?
This
is
how
many
people
we've
helped,
and
this
is
where
we
think
it
was
effective.
F
Very
excited
to
tell
you
that
we
already
worked
together
on
the
process
for
next
year
right,
and
so
this
is
what
you're
seeing
tonight
is
sort
of
an
abbreviated
process
that
together,
we
cobbled
together
to
get
through
the
crunch
of
timing.
But
next
year
I
think
is
probably
in
what
I
would
say
is
an
elegant
process
that
mirrors
CDBG.
Thank.
F
H
Wanting
mr.
chair
I
want
to
give
positive
feedback
to
this
process,
though
I
think
Cindy's
right
it
allows
this
is
new
funding.
Essentially,
so
it's
not
a
precedent
for
this,
but
it
allows
the
administration
the
incoming
administration
to
figure
out
how
they
want
to
target
these
right.
So
you
could
change
the
focus
next
year,
theoretically
to
fill
other
gaps
or
other
needs
as
presented.
But
then
the
process
does
the
same.
H
Where
you
choose
the
gaps
or
the
focus
areas
you
put
out
the
RFP
people
reply
to
that,
and
then
you
sort
through
the
process,
which
I
think
is
a
really
great
way
to
go
about
this,
so
that
the
city
can
then
look
at
the
county,
the
state,
federal
monies
and
programs
and
figure
out
not
duplicating
and
being
effective,
and
then
the
tracking
and
seeing
so
I
like
it.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Welcome.
N
N
Very
early
on
okay:
are
we
okay
to
move
forward,
so
we
are
on
CDC,
number,
nine
CDC,
sorry,
Community
Development
Corporation
of
Utah.
There
are
home
ownership,
downpayment
assistance,
and
the
request
was
for
a
hundred
and
thirty
three
thousand
the
mayor
I
supported
that
full
request.
I'm.
This
is
your
typical
downpayment
assistance
program.
In
fact,
the
next
three
are
very
two
of
them
are
very
similar
one's
a
little
different,
but
offering
up
to
$14,000
to
help
with
down
payment
assistance.
N
Those
at
60%,
70%,
80%
ami,
are
really
struggling
with
actually
being
able
to
find
an
affordable
unit
that
they
could
sustain,
and
so,
instead
of
focusing
on
80%,
a
mine
below,
like
federal
funding,
typically
does
they're
asking
to
be
able
to
stretch
all
the
way
up
to
a
hundred
percent
am
because
the
group
between
80
and
a
hundred
percent
due
to
the
housing
market
needs
some
additional
assistance
I'm
other
than
that
it
is
very.
It
is
very
similar
to
what
you
see
in
the
CDBG
process,
downpayment
assistance
to
help
a
home
ownership
I'm.
N
The
next
application
is
from
International
Rescue
Committee
I'm.
This
downpayment
assistance
program
is
specifically
targeted
to
folks
that
show
up
on
their
doorstep
right
that
intersect
with
the
IRC.
A
downpayment
assistance
program
is
offering
between
five
thousand
and
fifteen
thousand
to
low
to
moderate
income
families,
so
they
will
target
80%
and
below,
and
then
priority
will
be
given
to
households
with
refugee
and
immigrant
backgrounds.
N
The
next
application
is
from
NeighborWorks
Salt
Lake,
with
their
down
payment
assistance
program.
I'm
you
may
recall
a
few
years
ago,
when
NeighborWorks
received
lift
funding
that
really
helped
spur
a
lot
of
homeownership
in
our
city,
I'm,
Wells
Fargo
or
they
worked
with
Wells
Fargo
got
a
ton
of
downpayment
assistance
out
there.
N
It
was
a
really
great
effort
and
opportunity
for
Salt
Lake
to
to
participate
in
homeownership
and
they
are
not
receiving
any
new
dollars
in
that
space,
and
so
they
are
looking
to
fill
that
their
request
was
at
four
hundred
and
five
thousand
dollars
going
to
I'm
downpayment
assistance.
The
mayor
looked
to
support
that
at
forty
five
thousand
dollars.
Again
this
it
comes
down
to
I'm
the
amount
of
funding
that
was
available
in
that
category
and.
K
N
The
next
application
is
first
step
house
and
their
emergency
rent
assistance
program,
so
the
next
three
applications
are
emergency
rent
assistance,
the
ones
that
we
saw
before
that
where
rent
assistance
were
targeted
to
a
specific
population.
So
while
these
get
the
next
three
we'll
target
a
little
bit,
it's
not
as
heavily
targeted,
I'm
first
step
house
is
looking
for.
432
I
can
say:
I
can
say:
number
is
four
hundred
and
thirty,
two
thousand
seven
hundred
and
seven
dollars
I'm.
The
mayor
is
looking
to
fill
this
request
at
three
hundred
and
eighty
five
thousand
dollars.
N
This
emergency
rent
assistance
program
would
offer
short-term
rental
assistance,
deposit
and
application
assistance
and
case
management
services
for
clients
that
do
not
meet
HUDs
definition
of
homelessness.
As
you
may
be
aware,
if
you
spend
over
ninety
days
in
a
institution,
then
you
lose
homelessness
status
and
you
are
not
eligible
for
any
federal
funding.
Support.
N
The
next
application
is
the
International
Rescue
Committee
emergency,
rent
assistance.
This
program
is
at
a
request
of
$15,000.
The
mayor
looked
to
support
the
full
request.
This
assistance
would
be
provided
to
refugees
and
new
Americans,
providing
up
to
six
months
of
partial
rent
with
a
proof
of
a
financial
shock.
N
In
most
cases,
clients
actually
receive,
or
only
need
about,
one
month's
worth
of
assistance
I'm
this
program,
because
of
because
the
population
that's
being
targeted,
there's
often
a
learning
curve
in
how
to
live
and
thrive
in
in
a
space
where
budgets
and
finances
and
housing
housing
costs
are
just
new
ideas,
I'm,
and
so
this
provides
a
little
bit
of
support
to
help
help
stabilize
the
population.
N
The
next
one
is
YWCA
their
emergency
rent
assistance
and
this
application
is
similar
to
the
other
one
from
YWCA.
The
difference
here
is
not
children
being
targeted
in
this.
In
this
request,
so
YWCA
is
requesting
two
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
seven
hundred
and
twenty
dollars.
The
mayor
did
not
look
to
support
this
application,
and
the
rent
assistance
program
would
be
a
continuation
of
their
current
transitional
housing
program
at
the
same
apartments.
So,
like
I
said
previously,
they
lost
some
funding,
and
so
there
are
units
sitting
vacant.
N
The
mayor
looked
to
I'm
once
YWCA
to
to
look
to
other
community
resources
to
help
fill
that
gap
I'm,
and
we
believe
that
there
are
some
opportunities
that
they
could
explore.
Hence
why
there's
no
mayor
mayoral
support
for
that
application
and
then
the
last
one
is
Wasatch
community
gardens
with
an
asked
of
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars.
N
As
we
reviewed
this
application,
it
was
very
apparent
that
this
request
is
to
contribute
to
a
capital
campaign
for
eight
affordable
housing
units
to
be
developed,
and
because
this
funding
is
focused
on
programs
and
not
development,
we
actually
did
not
support
this
application
as
staff,
and
then
the
mayor
also
I'm
agreed
with
that.
So
we
would
redirect
Wasatch
community
gardens
to
the
RDA
to
potentially
access
the
two
point:
five,
nine
million
of
funding
our
future
dollars.
That
was
moved
to
the
hospice.
F
N
T
A
A
A
A
C
Q
C
R
There
really
shouldn't
be
too
many
surprises
at
this
point,
and
this
ordinance,
like
Sam,
said
it
really
just
takes
most
of
what's
been
working
in
the
pilot
phase
and
just
basically
codifies
it
in
an
ordinance.
I
did
think
it
might
be
useful
to
go
through
just
a
few
of
bullet
points
of
just
some
of
the
feedback
that
we've
heard
in
the
last
about
year
and
a
half
that
we've
had
scooters
in
the
city.
R
R
There's
we
early
on
decided
to
have
require
the
the
vendors
or
incentivize
the
vendors
to
deploy
west
of
I-15
if
they
wanted
to
be
able
to
deploy
up
to
the
full
cap,
a
certain
number
had
to
be
deployed
on
the
west
side,
and
we've
had
pretty
positive
feedback
about
that
consistently,
and
then
you
know,
generally
speaking,
looking
you
know
to
the
future.
I
think
everyone's
trying
to
you
know.
We
worry
about
air
quality
and
how
do
we
get
people
out
of
cars
and
so
anything
that
we
can
do
to
encourage
that
as
a
good
thing?
R
And
so
that's
those
are
some
of
the
supportive
things
we've
heard.
As
far
as
concerns
and
or
recommendations,
the
top
thing
has
been
sidewalk
riding,
particularly
more
more
senior
people
in
around
the
downtown
have
expressed
a
lot
of
concern
about
you
know
these
scooters
they've
go
fast
and
they're
very
quiet.
R
You
know
I've
had
several
octogenarians
mentioned
to
me.
You
know
the
you
know
if
you
break
a
hip
and
you're
you're
done
right,
and
so
that's
a
very
real
fear
for
them,
and
so
it's
something
that
we,
you
know
we
take
very
seriously
and
have
been
concerned
about
and
really
been
pushing
the
vendors
too
and
then
been
looking
at
things
that
we
can
do
as
a
city
to
improve
that
issue.
R
There's
a
lot
of
support
for
installing
scooter,
docks
or
designated
scooter
parking
areas,
not
that
we
would
necessarily
require
that
people
leave
them
there,
but
I
think
if
there
is
a
place
where
it
made
sense
to
leave
them
that
people
would
would
use
that
and
take
advantage
of
that.
So
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we're
we've
been
putting
a
lot
of
thought
and
effort
into
there's
some
thought
towards
putting
you
know:
maybe
designating
some
areas
that
are
slow
zones
or
no-go
zones.
R
The
GPS
isn't
accurate
enough
to
be
able
to
just
have
you
know
just
the
sidewalks,
but
we
could
do
because
it's
accurate
to
maybe
10
to
20
feet,
so
we
can
designate,
and
some
of
the
vendors
have
already
done
this
places
like
Gallivan
Plaza
or
you
know,
the
Temple
Square
area
is
just
kind
of
like
look
either
the
scooters
just
stopped
working
or
they
automatically
drop
to
like
3
miles
an
hour
and
then
there's
also
other
concerns
about
sustainability.
You
waste
things
like
that.
R
You
know
what
happens
a
lot
of
these
scooters
only
last
a
month.
I
know
that
a
lot
of
the
vendors
have
been
working
hard
just
to
stay
in
business,
to
be
able
to
get
their
scooters
to
last
longer.
But
then
what
happens
with
all
the
waste,
and
the
last
thing
that
we've
heard
from
a
lot
of
disability
advocates
is
it'd
be
nice.
R
T
T
People
have
very
strong
feelings
about
Dhokla
scooters,
at
least
from
what
I've
been
hearing
in
terms
of
safety
concerns
and
they're,
worried
about
how
and
and
I'm
worried
about
how
we
enforce
and
I'm
existing
ordinances.
With
the
you
know,
this
isn't
really
something
we
want
to
allocate
police
resources
to.
T
R
That's
great,
as
far
as
the
safety
concerns
one
of
the
things
that
we've
been
exploring
the
Sam
included
in
his
write-up.
That
I
really
appreciated
was
this
possibility
of
having
an
identify,
cabbie
dident,
efficacious
number
going
down
the
front
of
each
scooter
and
then
we'd
have
to
just
figure
out
who
was
would
be
authorized
to
take
a
picture
of
that
they've
been
piloting
this
in
Portland,
where
someone
could
then
take
that
picture.
R
If
house
it
has
a
time
stamp
on
it,
then
the
vendor,
you
know
the
city
would
then
tag
the
vendor
with
this
with
a
fine.
He
would
then
pass
the
fine
on
to
their
to
their
user,
and
so
I
think
that's,
maybe
the
most
promising
thing
that
we
could.
We
could
look
at
it,
wouldn't
necessarily
have
to
be
a
police
officer
hate.
What
but
it's
something
worth
exploring.
Okay,.
T
T
R
A
R
R
R
I
think
you
know,
try
and
hit
it
from
all
all
angles.
Well,.
R
R
So
we
would
just
have
to
make
sure
that
whatever
we
we
do
would
be
consistent.
So
in
my
mind,
that
law
has
more
to
do
with
speed
limits
and
where
they're
allowed
to
ride.
So
if
we
want
to
ban
scooter
from
riding
on
any
sidewalk
anywhere
in
the
city,
we'd
have
to
do
the
same
for
for
bikes
right
now.
You
know
I
personally
feel
comfortable
on
a
suburban
neighborhood
street.
The
kid
wants
to
ride
his
bike,
her
bike
on
the
street
I
there
on
the
the
sidewalk.
R
But
then
you
know
there's
other
ideas
such
as
you
know
that
you
can
have
a
rule
that,
if
you're
outside
of
the
central
business
district
and
you
ride,
you
know
it's
okay
to
ride.
On
the
sidewalk,
however,
for
pedestrians
present
you
have
to
ride
at
pedestrian,
walking,
speed
so
three
to
five
miles
an
hour
and
so
I
think
exploring
things
like
that
could
make
a
lot
of
sense.
R
C
D
D
If
that's
the
case,
but
the
priority
is
one
hundred
percent
for
me
about
protecting
the
pedestrian
environment
that
we
have
spent
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
to
create
in
Salt
Lake
City,
and
we
are
still
investing
in
prioritizing
pedestrians
over
the
built
environment
for
cars
and
in
no
way
do
I
want
to
compromise
the
pedestrian
safety
in
Salt,
Lake
City.
For
the
sake
of
scooters,
that's
like
the
fundamental
the
foundation
of
this
discussion
for
me.
D
Bills,
the
vendor
to
charge
the
client
or
their
participant
and
takes
that
out
of
the
police
round,
but
I
love
the
idea
of
the
parking
in
the
parking
folks
being
deputized
to
do
that
and
the
SLC
mobile
app
could
be
something
we
could
explore.
So
I'd
love
to
see
if
there
are
other
cities
who,
in
some
of
them
you've
cited
who
are
using
their
own
mobile
apps
or
exactly
what
that
camera
technology
entails
and
then,
whether
or
not
which
I
would
hope
that
the
vendors
would
be
paying
for
those
cameras,
not
Salt
Lake
City
taxpayers.
D
I
also
want
to
know
about
better
parking
situations
and
whether
or
not
in
the
downtown
core,
particularly
we
could.
We
could
have
a
discussion
as
a
council
about
if
we
want
to
if
we
can
afford
to
lose
on
street
parking.
That's
currently
part
of
our
pay
for
parking,
perhaps
painted
a
color.
You
know
that
on
every
block
face,
there's
some
doclist
parking
station
and
it's
a
parking
spot.
It's
not
on
the
sidewalk.
D
R
R
D
Drivers
we're
charging
a
company
that
were
contracted
with
who
would
agree
in
our
contract
to
that
kind
of
an
operation.
It's
totally
different
use
of
the
camera
technology,
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
buy.
That
I
also
want
to
know
what
other
cities
are
doing
with
smart
technology
like
councilmember
Wharton
was
asking
about
with.
Could
we
it's
their
economic
tracking
that
we
can
do?
Is
there
are
there
some
other
kind
of
sensor,
opportunities
or
big
data
opportunities
in
collaborating
with
the
vendors
that
we
could
gain
more
perspective
about
it?
D
I
also
am
interested
in
our
very
old
transportation
master
plan
and
how
a
new
master
plan
might
contemplate
the
integration
of
shared
mobility
into
our
network,
because
I
think
you
guys
are
doing
the
absolute
best
you
can
and
using
the
national
resources
that
we
have.
I
also
think
we
should
update
our
transportation
master
plan,
so
it's
reflective
of
the
future
of
mobility,
which
we'll
talk
about
more
in
the
future
and
there's
one
other
thing
in.
R
Can
I
comment
on
the
the
the
comment
about
using
curb
space
I?
Don't
think
that
that
would
require
any
change
to
the
ordinance.
We
currently
do
things
like
bike
Corral's,
there's
it's
pretty
popular
with
downtown
businesses,
particularly
bars
and
other
restaurants,
that
you
know
we
can
that's
actually
pretty
quick
and
easy
to
do.
It's
just
often
people
push
back,
but
once
people
understand
that
by
if
you
can
fit,
you
know
eight
to
ten
scooter
or
bike
parking
spaces
in
the
place
of
one
car
parking
spot,
then
it's
actually
good
for
business.
G
G
So
I
think
that's
you
know.
An
older
generation
is
thinking
of
other
motor
skills
and
how
you
know
a
scooter
going
really
fast
could
affect
them
because
they're
not
fast
enough
to
you,
know
to
be
alert.
So
that's
totally
legit
like
so,
and
also
they're,
afraid
of
you
know
the
cost
of
injuries
that
these
scooters
might
be
generating.
G
If
you
will
and
another
thing
that
a
different
group
of
a
different
generation
says
we're
not
the
speed
is
not
an
issue
for
my
generation
by
my
issue
with
the
the
scooters
as
I
think
about
this
is
what
one
they
provide
mobility
for
me,
because
I
am
22
years
old
and
I
don't
have
a
driver's
license
and
I
don't
want
to
drive
it
anymore.
I
think
these
are
pretty
convenient
to
me.
G
G
You
know
whatever
you're
saving
and
in
an
emissions
but
with
the
vans
driving
around
and
you
know
and
polluting
the
earth.
So
is
a
good
enough.
Then,
are
we
doing
good
if,
if
that's
our
goal
as
a
city
with
air
quality,
and
then
the
third
one
I
had
mine
things
that
I'm
thinking
about?
Oh,
it's,
the
usage
and
the
deterioration
of
our
sidewalks
like
if
scooter
companies
are,
you
know
their
users
are
using
our
sidewalks
and
they
are
the
tearing
our
sidewalks.
G
How
are
they
financially
compensating
the
city
so
that
we
can
replace
or
mend
some
of
the
sidewalks
that
they
might,
their
scooters
might
be
deteriorating,
so
those
are
the
things
that
I
have
in
my
mind
and
if
we
can
get
any
information
of
that,
that
would
be
great.
But
and
then
the
last
thing.
Also,
in
my
mind,
is
the
you
know
as
planners
and
as
we're
looking
at
downtown.
We've
always
wanted
people
to
come
downtown
and
we're
trying
from
all
these
different
ways.
We
want
patrons
to
this
at
all.
G
The
businesses
to
go
to
bars
to
so
I
feel
the
scooters
might
be
contributing
to
that
like
they
are
bringing
different
groups
of
people
downtown
that
they
might
not
have
thought
about
it
before
so
I
think
that's
also
to
take
into
consideration
we
are
at.
They
are
contributing
to
that
like
positively
they.
You
know
the
visit
to
downtown
of
the
patron
region
of
our
businesses,
so
those
are
that's
where
I'm
at
so,
if
there's
any
information,
if
there's
or
later
that
that's
fine,
but
those
are
the
things
that
I
would
look
at
great.
H
Want
to
echo
a
couple
things
I
think
you
brought
the
right
points,
I
think
the
enforcement's,
a
big
issue
and
figuring
this
out
with
a
couple
of
the
companies
and
their
responsibilities
versus
our
responsibility
versus
the
responsibility.
I
do
agree
with
councilmember
Mendenhall
that
pedestrian
safety
is
a
huge
issue
with
this.
I
want
to
state
very
clearly,
though,
as
a
scooter
rider
myself,
it's
not
about
the
sidewalk
being
desirable.
The
streets
not
desirable
and
I,
went
to
the
Monson
center
this
morning
on
on
South
temple
and
there's
not
a
good
way
to
go.
H
There
I
rode
my
bike,
there's
not
a
good
way
to
go
there.
If
you're
gonna
get
there
on
South
temple,
it's
gonna
be
on
the
sidewalk
unless
you're
a
serious
bike
rider,
and
you
can
take
one
of
the
lanes
and
negotiate
the
length
of
traffic
in
the
morning.
It's
not
a
good
environment.
We
have
to
look
at
the
city
and
heavily
invest
in
multiple
modes
of
transportation
options
on
streets.
H
This
is
not
the
first
or
the
last
time
we're
gonna
have
an
alternative
to
cars
or
walking.
We
have
to
find
the
infrastructure
in
there
to
make
it
happen.
I
would
advocate
also
to
look
at
downtown
as
a
particular
need
for
this
particular.
We
know
why
there's
a
lot
more
downtown,
it's
much
more
congested
and
that's
a
lot
more
interference
between
cars,
bikes,
pedestrians
and
scooters.
It's
a
difficult
environment
down
there
when
we're
using
it
for
first
and
last
mile,
though
outside
the
downtown
core.
H
We
have
to
keep
in
mind
of
where
you
park
them
and
how
you
park
them
might
be
different.
I
think
it's
worthy
I
did
a
look
at
parking
spaces
on
street
parking
options,
but
what
the
first
mile
last
mile
it
can't
be
every
four
blocks.
We
have
to
look
at
those
things
because
in
residential
areas
you
don't
have
a
lot
of
space
like
that
to
pull
that
off.
We
know
how
tight
parking
is
in
our
residential
areas
right
now,
and
we
know
how
few
options
outside
of
their
literal
sidewalk
in
the
street.
H
So
I
want
to
balance
those
things
out
and
in
the
current
ordinances
are
written,
I
don't
know
there
was
a
lot
of
flexibility
in
differentiating
high
congestion
urban
areas
like
the
downtown
core
versus
some
of
the
outline
residential
areas.
As
far
as
enforcement
of
parking,
those
kind
of
things
I'm
not
saying
we
shouldn't
enforce
it
outside
of
the
downtown
core,
but
we've
got
to
be
able
to
figure
out
some
other
solutions
out
there
that
are
cost-effective
for
everybody
and
safe
for
everybody.
A
Yet
that
was
gonna,
be
my
comment
to
is
that
I
feel
like
it's
more
of
a
downtown
issue,
instead
of
being
in
the
neighborhoods,
where
you
don't
see
him
as
much
so
for
me,
it
would
be
looking
at
some
sort
of
enforcement.
Just
around
that
area,
I
mean
you're,
not
gonna,
send
them
out
to
the
communities
to
do
that.
So
yeah.
A
T
A
T
You
just
one
quick
follow-up,
so
a
lot
of
what
we've
been
telling
residents
is
that
a
lot
of
the
problems
that
we're
experiencing
with
with
riders
on
sidewalks
downtown
they're
violating
existing
city
ordinances?
Can
you
tell
me
how
many
people
have
been
cited
for
violating
existing
ordinances
on
Dhokla
scooters.
R
I'm
not
aware
of
any
at
this
point,
I
think
that's
something
we
need
to
figure
out.
It's
put
the
police
on
a
pretty
tough
position.
I,
don't
want
to
speak
for
them,
but
that's
something
that
I'm
sensitive
to
and
I
want
to
figure
out
how
we
can
structure
things
to
set
them
up
for
success.
Okay,
because.
T
R
R
But
we've
been
working
closely
with
Finance
on
the
councilmember.
Baltimore
also
mentioned
the
financial
impact,
so
they've
done
some
assessments
of
what
the
financial
impacts
have
been
thus
far
and
then
we'll
do
some
analyses
of
going
forward.
What
are
some
things?
Whether
that's
you
know
additional?
R
The
only
one
that
we've
really
heard
back
from
is
University
Hospital
and
they've.
Given
us
some
updated
data
and
as
expected,
there
are
people
that
are
hurt,
riding
scooters
and
it's
I
was
surprised
at
the
you
know.
I
was
thinking
stereotypically,
it
would
be
eighteen
year
old
males,
but
it
was
wide
range
of
Ages
and
gender.
R
A
Great,
thank
you
very
much
so
that
takes
us
past
the
item
ten,
which
was
the
draft
doclist
shared
mobility
ordinance
and
we
are
going
to
recess
I
believe,
is
this
correct,
we're
gonna
recess
as
the
City
Council
and
we're
going
to
convene
as
the
Board
of
Canvassers,
because
it
is
almost
five
o'clock.
We
were
one
minute
shy,
so
hang
on.
Don't
want
to
get
us
in
trouble
right,
Cindy,
Menzel,
okay,
yeah,.
T
I'll
save
my
fun
anecdote
for
later
I'm
just
kidding.
I
was
just
doing
that.
Let's
hear
it
well,
I
knew
you
were
excited
to
tell
me
today.
Yeah,
g'day,
mate
and,
and
but
I
literally
almost
didn't
make
it
here
because
of
my
connecting
flight
through
the
LA
Airport,
which
is
terrible
and
not
at
all,
like
our
new
airport,
which
will
be
amazing
and
flawless,
but
I
almost
didn't
make
it
because
they
like
make
you
go
out
of
security
and
right
back
into
it
and
they
weren't
not
gonna.
Let
me
on
the
plane
with
my
boomerang.
T
T
E
A
A
A
D
H
A
A
Okay,
there
we
go
yes
motion
by
councilmember,
Mendenhall
and
second
by
council
member
of
Aldo
Moros
to
accept
the
the
canvas
all
those
in
favor
aye
motion
passes.
So
congratulations
to
all
of
those
electeds
Anna
she's
here
so
I.
Don't
why
don't
you
stand
up?
Andrew
Johnston?
Why
don't
you
stand
up
in
Dan,
Dugan
of
council
district
six
come
on
Dan!
Won't
you
stand
up
and
then
our
mayor
elect
Aaron
Mendenhall.
So
congratulations.
Everyone
yeah.
F
Q
Is
the
second
briefing
for
budget
amendment
number
two
of
fiscal
year
2020
the
public
hearing
was
on
November
12th
and
the
council
is
scheduled
for
a
partial
vote
tonight,
just
on
the
transition
expenses,
since
the
transition
period
begins
tomorrow
and
the
funding
needs
to
be
available.
At
the
same
time,
the
first
update
at
the
last
briefing
the
council
took
a
straw
poll
and
unanimously
supported
early
higher
advertising
for
the
streets
division
director.
The
council
asked
at
the
time
why
the
division
directors
in
public
services
are
a
mix
of
appointed
and
merit
positions.
Q
The
response
from
the
administration
is
that
the
three
divisions
this
would
be
trails
in
natural
lands,
urban
forestry
and
the
gala
our
merit,
instead
of
appointed
because
they
are
at
a
lower
pay
grade.
The
divisions
have
smaller
budgets
relative
to
the
other,
six
divisions
in
the
department
and
they
supervise
fewer
employees.
The
city
does
not
appear
to
have
a
policy
or
a
set
of
criteria
to
determine
win
division
level
positions
should
be
appointed
or
merit.
Q
State
law
does
come
into
play
for
statutory
officers,
such
as
a
city,
engineer
or
a
city
recorder,
and
appointing
department,
directors
and
all
staff
in
the
mayor's
office
and
the
counsel's
office
are
appointed,
but
it
is
a
case-by-case
basis
at
the
division
level.
There
is
a
policy
question
if
the
council
would
like
to
request
the
administration,
develop
a
policy
in
criteria
for
these
division
level
situations
and
or
if
you'd,
like
clarification
from
the
attorney's
office
on
the
council's
scope,
to
determine
merit
versus
appointed
positions.
F
From
policy
point
of
view,
you
could
argue
it
either
way,
I'm
sure,
but
consistency
is
always
a
good
thing
in
the
past.
What
I've
noticed
with
the
departments
is
that,
as
there
was
turnover,
they
would
change,
merit
position
into
a
an
appointed
position
and
so
for
the
long
the
people
who
had
been
in
their
positions
for
a
very
long
time,
starting
from
before
division
directors,
were
appointed.
F
Then
those
people
have
the
right
to
remain
in
the
appointed
position,
I
think
and
but
then,
as
I
thought,
that
the
the
plan
was
as
those
division
director
positions
turned
over,
that
they
would
become
appointed.
So
there
might
be
some
history,
we
could
look
back
on
with
human
resources
and
then
just
provide
the
information
to
the
council.
Then
you
can
determine
if
you
want
to
I.
F
C
J
A
A
Q
Q
Item
a1
is
landfill
monitoring.
The
council
asked
for
some
additional
information
on
the
engineering
services
that
the
city
provides.
The
current
consultant
contract
expires
in
December
2020,
the
RFP
went
through
the
standard
city
process.
There
were
three
bids
that
were
received.
The
contract
has
a
five-year
term.
The
consultant
meets
twice
a
year
with
the
sustainability
Department
and
the
landfill
director
to
review
activities
and
upcoming
plans.
There
is
a
specialized
skill
set
given
the
high
level
of
regulation
for
landfills.
There
are
federal
state
and
local
rules
and
regulations
that
have
to
be
followed.
Q
The
staff
report
has
a
list
of
specific
services
that
I
won't
read
out.
The
consultant
provides
all
of
these
services
on
an
ongoing
basis,
and
the
city's
engineer
is
the
procurement
agency
for
each
of
these
collection,
monitoring
and
repair
and
replacement
services.
If
there
are
specific
questions
about
these
services
or
about
the
next
RFP,
we
can
follow
up
on
those
and
just
a
reminder.
The
1.25
million
that's
being
requested
in
this
budget
amendment
is
paid
back.
It's
reimbursed
to
the
city.
Q
Q
The
department
responded
that
the
elevated
workload
they're
currently
experiencing
is
expected
to
be
an
ongoing
level
of
service
increase.
They
are
not
currently
requesting
additional
FTEs,
but
are
planning
to
do
an
assessment
once
the
vacancies
are
filled.
The
council
had
requested
the
list
of
positions
that
are
currently
vacant
and
that
is
pending
information
and
there's
a
bit
of
detail
specific
to
one
of
the
offices
within
the
department.
The
can
director
this
recently
increased
from
8
FTEs
in
fiscal
year,
19
to
18
in
the
current
fiscal
year.
Q
Q
E
Ok,
that
seems
like
a
question
that
should
be
answered
at
some
point:
Jennifer
McGrath.
C
C
C
E
We
talk
about
the
ones
that
are
currently
vacant.
Please
sorry,
I
didn't
come.
K
A
Q
Q
The
next
item
is
a
six.
The
council
asked
for
an
update
on
codifying
and
standardizing
the
current
practices
for
grants
and
donations.
You
passed
a
legislative
intent
to
this
effect
a
little
over
a
year
ago,
the
administration
reports
that
they
are
currently
working
on
ordinance
changes
and
revised
policies
and
they're
hoping
to
transmit
the
proposal
to
the
council
by
the
end
of
the
year.
Q
F
F
The
council
is
basically
saying
we
recognize
that
it
is
important
to
keep
the
business
of
the
city
moving
as
quickly
as
possible
and
to
put
grant
funding
to
work
right
away
as
soon
as
it's
received.
So
this
allows
for
that
to
happen
rather
than
having
the
grants
received
and
then
having
a
gap
between
the
time
that
that
the
grant
is
received
in
the
council
has
time
on
its
agenda
to
appropriate
it.
F
Q
The
next
item
is
a
10.
This
is
also
council.
Edit
item
I
1.
The
council
added
item
is
$100,000
for
police
overtime
for
patrols.
A
10
is
a
hundred
and
thirty
six
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars,
which
is
a
combination
of
87
thousand
dollars
for
security
and
patrols
in
this
building
and
on
Washington
Square,
and
a
remaining
forty
nine
thousand
dollars
for
patrols
in
city
parks.
Q
There's
a
policy
question
about
which
specific
problems
the
funding
is
intended
to
solve,
or
if
the
appropriation
would
be
providing
flexibility
to
the
police
department
to
have
their
own
discretion,
about
which
of
these
to
prioritize
staff,
heard
four
categories
and
the
council's
previous
discussions.
One
of
them
is
focusing
on
increasing
patrols
on
Washington
Square.
Another
is
assisting
parks,
employees
with
closing
restrooms
at
night.
Q
A
third
is
increasing
patrols
at
city
parks
and
urban
trails,
and
the
fourth
is
more
broad
than
the
other
three
and
its
officers
spending
more
time
and
identified
crime
hotspots
which
could
but
may
not
include
city
parks.
So
if
the
council
wanted
to
have
a
discussion
about
which
of
these
four
or
if
there's
a
preference
for
providing
that
flexibility,
I
know,
the
police
department
is
here
to
participate
in
the
discussion
and
last
Friday
after
the
staff
report
was
published.
We
received
several
pages
of
information
in
response
to
specific
questions
from
the
police
from
the
council.
Q
I
can
summarize
some
of
the
Meishan
here,
but
I
think.
The
key
point
is
the
police
department
said
that
providing
for
officers
per
day
for
four
hour
shifts
seven
days
a
week
that
the
the
department
would
need
sixty
thousand
four
hundred
and
eighty
dollars
of
additional
overtime
funding,
in
addition
to
the
amount
requested
in
order
to
provide
that
through
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year,
and
so
that
would
be
less
than
the
council's
additional
funding
of
a
hundred
thousand,
which
is
currently
in
the
budget.
Amendment.
D
I
brought
this
one
up,
I
think
some
of
us
had
similar
concerns.
This
in
a
large
part,
came
out
of
public
comments
we
received.
We
have
some
of
those
folks
in
the
audience
tonight
from
different
parts
of
the
community
who
have
felt
that
the
restrooms
aren't
being
closed
enough
at
night
that
there's
not,
and
we
know
from
the
parks
department
they're
not
always
safe
for
Parks
employees
to
go
in
there
and
do
that
closing
also
from
the
ball
park.
D
Community
who's
requested
through
these
community
conversations,
we've
been
having
an
increase
in
overtime
officer,
availability
for
patrols
of
hotspot
areas,
which
I
know
are
influx
at
all
times
and
that
you're
evaluating
those
at
all
times,
but
those
so
items
two
three
and
four
in
the
policy
question
are
acutely
what
I
was
going
after,
not
the
increased
patrols
on
Washington
Square
in
the
city
and
county
building.
That
feels
like
a
very
separate
issue
to
me
and
the
the
point
of
this
gap
or
I
see
it
as
gap
funding.
D
While
the
police
department
goes
through
the
work
of
recruiting
and
training,
hiring
the
additional
officers
that
we
granted
through
the
normal
budget
process.
Earlier
this
year
it
takes
nine
ten
months
to
get
those
officers
up
and
online.
So
it's
insufficient
to
me
to
only
do
the
funding
through
the
end
of
this
calendar
year.
D
Is
it
sufficient
for
us
to
estimate
that
if
we
or
should
I
not
get
into
figuring
out
how
many
dollars
per
month,
that
is,
if
we
want
to
extend
it
all
the
way
into
the
point
at
which
chief
could
tell
us
they
feel
like
they
may
have
those
additional
officers
on
line
I,
don't
like
doing
math
up
here
at
this
desk.
It
never
goes
well
for
any
council
member,
but
if
I
have
to
I
will
try
I
think.
Q
D
Q
S
S
Yeah,
what
what
we
were
looking
at
is
funding
to
close
the
bathrooms
from
10:00
p.m.
to
2:00
a.m.
and
our
first
blush
was.
We
were
going
to
do
two
officers
for
the
entire
city.
What
we
think
is
a
better
measure
is
to
have
two
officers
on
both
sides
of
the
town
sore
for
total,
from
10:00
to
2:00,
so
the
numbers
would
basically
just
double
the
the
council
gave
us.
The
one
was
at
the
136.
S
S
S
Okay,
so
we
got
136
$800
in
the
budget
request.
Eighty-Seven
thousand
dollars
of
that
would
go
to
the
security
shifts
here
at
the
City
County
Building.
That
would
leave
us
with
49
thousand
four
hundred
dollars
to
to
close
those
restrooms.
Like
I
said,
we
started
closing
the
restrooms
in
october/november.
S
It'll
cost
us
about
twenty
three
thousand
dollars
to
close
them
for
those
two
months,
so
we'll
have
19
thousand
three
hundred
and
eighty
three
dollars
to
start
next
spring.
We
anticipate
starting
April,
May
and
June
and
that'll
get
us
to
the
the
fiscal
year
so
asking
for
the
four
officers
instead
of
the
two
that
we're
doing
right
now,
I
think
that's
a
better
that's
a
lot
of
bathrooms
to
close
and
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
for
two
officers
in
as
many
as
parks
as
we
have
here
in
the
city.
S
A
It
does
make
sense,
but
for
me,
I
think
moving
forward.
This
is
where
our
park
ranger
program
fits.
So
you
know
moving
forward
right,
so
yeah
I
know,
but
I'm
just
saying
that
I
think
it
can
be
even
bigger.
I
mean
if
we're
just
looking
at
a
people,
basically
for
people
that
we're
looking
at
from
the
police
department.
I
think
we
can
do
better.
I
really
do
I'm
just
saying
yes,
councilmember
Fowler,
okay,.
H
I
agree
with
Councilman
Mendenhall
I
think
the
intention
on
my
part
for
this
was
implementing
the
park
ranger
program
as
soon
as
possible,
and
in
this
case
it
meant
the
bathroom
work
specifically
through
the
wintertime.
But
that's
my
concern
is
if
it's
getting
diverted
elsewhere,
I
hope
it's
not
that
whether
it's
here
somewhere
else,
because
I
think
that
the
feedback
I
got
was
Poplar,
Grove,
Park
and
Jordan
Park
and
Glendale
Park
frankly
needing
police
officers
present
now
kind
of
things.
S
S
That
would
really
make
our
jobs
so
much
easier
in
the
morning,
because
that
we
wouldn't
be
you
know
the
vandalism
and
the
damage
and
trying
to
you
know
the
things
that
are
going
on
in
those
bathrooms
and
so
that's
kind
of
keep.
That
was
the
genesis
for
what
we
thought
we
could
do
now.
I
know
we're
talking
about
the
Park
Rangers.
But
let
me
ask
you
this:
do
we
really
want
our
Park
Rangers
closing
the
bathrooms
at
10
o'clock
at
night
to
2:00
a.m.
S
or
would
we
rather
have
them
out
amongst
the
people
throughout
the
park
during
the
busy
times
when
a
lot
of
people
are
enjoying
the
parks
throughout
the
summer,
so
I'm
proposing
maybe
the
best
of
both
worlds?
It
may
take
some
funding
to
do
the
overtime
at
night
to
close
those
parks,
but
I
would
much
rather
have
a
park,
ranger
team
and
it
can
ever
flow.
S
We
can
put
more
people
on
there
that
is
supervised,
that
it's
directed,
that
is
community
policing
modeled,
rather
than
just
do
it
with
overtime,
because
over
time,
it's
just
over
time,
and
so
that's
kind
of
my
thinking,
this
Park
Rangers
team
is
not
going
to
be
ready
until
so.
This
funding
will
give
us
those
four
officers
to
close
the
bathrooms.
S
Now
we
will
step
up
the
game
working
with
parks
managers
and
our
CIA
officers
and
we'll
have
the
over
time
to
close
the
bathrooms
as
soon
as
we
get
the
Park
Rangers
in
August
they'll
jump
into
this
game
seamlessly.
So
that's
the
difference
between
creating
overtime
shifts
or
doing
it
with
a
squad
and
I
and
Lisa
proposed
some
different
numbers.
The
numbers
that
she
is
looking
at
were
were
quite
a
bit
more
and
the
last
time
I
sat
here
and
talked
to
the
council.
Some
of
these
questions.
Mr.
S
If
we
did
the
same
under
the
proposal
from
parks,
it
would
be
almost
three
times
at
about
four
thousand
four
hour
shifts
I'm
telling
you
right
now
you
don't
want
to
live
and
die
on
overtime,
it's
just
a
band-aid,
and
so
you
can
throw
so
much
money
at
overtime
that
you'll
never
fill
it
and
I
think
we're
almost
a
saturation
on
some
of
those
because
we're
not
filling
some
of
those
shifts.
I'm
saying,
let's
go
with
the
for
overtime
officers
in
the
spring
to
the
tune
of
about
60,000
will
have
the
19,000
left
over
that.
S
E
Q
E
Q
S
E
Now,
they're
currently
just
doing
overtime,
Yeah,
right
and
I.
Guess
at
what
point
and
I
know
this
was
part
of
the
administration
I
just
want
to.
Did
we
decide
that
we
needed
more
and
I
I
know
that
we
had
a
vote
here
or
something
there
was
discussion
about
it,
but
when
was
it
that
we
decided
we
needed
to
police
officers
here
in
the
building?
Do
you
remember.
F
T
E
E
Okay,
so
so
shifting
from
that,
you
know,
I
think
one
of
the
questions
that
comes
up
to
me
about
the
for
overtime
in
the
spring,
to
close
down
the
bathrooms
remind
me
again
what
we're
doing
right
now
with
the
bathrooms-
and
this
may
sorry
Lisa
and
Kristin,
to
put
you
on
the
spot
if
we
need
to
talk
about
it,
but
what?
What
now
are
we
doing
with
our
bathrooms
in
our
parks?
When
do
we
close
them
and
who
closes
them?
C
E
So
I
guess
my
point
in
asking
these
questions
is
that
for
me,
as
we
have
talked
about
our
communities
and
we
spend
an
entire
three
hours
last
week,
talking
about
our
communities
experiencing
homelessness
and
the
needs
of
our
communities
experiencing
homelessness,
that
there
are
certain
things
that
we
as
a
city
can
do.
And
so
it
is
important
for
me
that
we're
looking
at
this
right
now
in
everybody
has
to
use
the
restroom
at
some
point.
E
We
can
all
remember
the
Park
Rangers,
but
the
reason
was
because
we
have
a
responsibility-
and
this
is
part
of
that
responsibility
in
my
opinion,
and
so
we're
closing
down
a
facility
that
people
use
and
to
be
fair,
I
go
to
the
parks
in
the
wintertime
too,
and
when
I
have
my
six
year
old
nephew
with
me
that
needs
to
use
the
restroom
and
there
the
park
it.
The
restroom
is
closed,
but
I
understand
why
mâche
fern
and
her
team
have
to
close
it
down
if
they're
being
threatened
or
they
don't
have.
E
The
manpower,
which
is
why
we
sort
of
talked
about
bringing
in
this
park
park.
Ranger
police
force
idea
is
to
help
so
that
we
can
keep
the
bathrooms
at
least
some
of
them
open
and
work
at
that,
and
so
now
to
hear
that
we're
not
I
mean
I'm
a
little
frustrated
right
now
that
now
we're
this
is
like
well
in
spring.
In
August,
can
we
have
a
problem
right
now?
Can.
C
S
C
That's
one
of
the
reasons:
that's
a
pretty
standard
practice
to
close
those
up.
It's
not
just
for
the
other
reasons,
and
so
but
I.
But
I
will
say
that
it
is
a
huge
issue
for
us
and
the
a
lot
of
our
restrooms
could
remain
open
and
be
accessible.
If
we
could
ensure
the
safety
of
the
patrons
that
want
to
use
those
restrooms
and
the
employees
who
are
tasked
with
opening,
closing
and
cleaning
those
restrooms
and.
E
O
E
O
M
E
Mean
you
have
to
winterize
and
do
those
things
so
I
understand
the
logistics
I
I
just
think
that
there
are
some
other
things
that
I
think
there
was
an
intent
here
in
in
bringing
up
these
issues
of
having
Park
Rangers
and
having
bathrooms
opened
and
closed,
and
the
intent
right
now
doesn't
feel
like
from
my
perspective,
my
our
intent
of
going
forward
with
something
like
this
is
necessarily
being
met.
Ya.
S
Know
I
can
appreciate
that
I
just
I
feel
like
that,
trying
to
split
the
baby
so
to
speak,
using
over
time
to
close
the
bathrooms
in
in
the
dark
and
after
curfew
is
probably
a
good
use
of
officers
and
then
keeping
and
reserving
the
park
ranger
squads
for
the
hired
uses
of
the
park
I
mean
we
can.
We
can
manipulate
this,
however.
You'd,
like
it
costs
about
twenty
thousand
dollars
a
month
to
close
the
bathrooms
based
on
four
officers
on.
So
that's
what
you're
looking
at.
S
So,
if
you
wanted
to
do
it
December
in
January
in
February,
that's
another
60,000,
so
I
mean
we
can
do
it,
but
to
try
to
staff
huge
amounts
of
time.
Four
thousand
four
hour
shifts
I
think
we're
going
well
past
the
saturation
I
mean
we
only
allow
our
officers
to
work.
Thirty,
two
hours
of
overtime
a
week,
that's
1,600
hours
in
a
year.
That's
like
two
full-time
jobs.
S
If
you
start
pushing
officers
to
work
so
many
time,
they're
they're
not
doing
it
they're,
not
as
effective
on
our
time,
and
so
we
try
to
strike
that
balance
and
so
I'm
saying.
Let's
look
at
this
holistically
and
and
if
we
need
more
Park
Rangers,
because
we're
only
looking
at
five
and
a
sergeant
that
is,
is
a
lot
of
turf
to
cover.
S
S
E
S
D
Thanks
the
bathroom
clarity
has
been
helpful:
I'm,
not
sure
that
we
should
keep
every
bathroom
open,
that
isn't
built
to
be
open
and
then
we're
dealing
with
plumbing
cracking
and
things.
But
that
was
a
piece
of
the
problem
here
and
when
I
said
to
you,
why
is
it
so
cheap?
It's
because
we
were
only
talking
about
bathrooms
and
this
whole
proposal
and
those
the
items
listed
in
the
policy
we're
that
we
wanted
to
increase
patrols
in
the
parks
and
urban
trails
during
daytime
hours.
D
S
In
the
other
funding
sources
that
we
have
and
we
identified,
there
were
seven
different
funding
sources
that
allow
us
to
do
some
of
that.
So
I'm
not
trying
to
say
no
to
money
and
I'd
love
our
officers
to
have
the
overtime
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
if
you
give
us
the
overtime,
we
have
the
people
to
work.
It
I
appreciate.
D
D
D
C
D
You
don't
know
what
a
hot
spot
is.
I
want
to
know
why
there
isn't
a
recommendation
in
here
for
overtime
officers
to
better
address
hot
spots
and
to
increase
patrols
in
our
parks
and
our
urban
trails.
That's
why
we
put
this
budget
amendment
together
this
item
and
we're
not
doing
that
we're
closing
bathrooms.
Why
I.
S
Think
that
it's
because,
looking
at
what
we
accomplished
last
year
in
2018,
we
did
1,400
shifts
of
overtime.
I,
just
don't
know
how
much
more
we
can
do.
I
mean
I
and
I
completely
appreciate
you're,
trying
to
give
us
the
money.
If
I
don't
have
officers
signing
up
to
do
those
shifts,
I
don't
know
what
to
do.
I
we
can
try.
S
H
S
H
Between
now
and
April,
if
all
the
bathrooms
are
closed,
the
funding
that's
being
allocated
towards
the
police
department
for
these
purposes.
What
is
what
would
it
be
used
for
between
now
and
April
through
the
wintertime,
the
allocations
for
what
would
be
because,
before
it's
used
before
and
after
saying
it
be
used
to
close
on
the
bathrooms
during
certain
times
at
night,
when
the
bathrooms
already
closed,
where
does
the
money
go
right
now?
We.
S
H
S
Mayor
elect
Tim
and
I
were
just
discussing.
Maybe
we
miss
read
the
question.
We
thought
that
we
were
trying
to
provide
the
funding
sources
and
what
we
accomplish
with
each
of
those
and
how
we
could
close
the
bathrooms.
If
I
could
ask
for
another
week
to
come
back
and
give
you
a
proposal
as
to
what
we
think
we
can
accomplish.
I
I,
just
don't
want
to
I,
want
to
be
able
to
answer
your
question
with.
F
Statement
here,
just
I
thought
that
on
the
10th
I
believe
the
national
group
that
did
the
funding
or
did
the
staffing
study
of
the
police
department
is
coming
to
talk
to
the
council
and
that
what
might
be
a
good
time
for
the
council
to
get
a
lot
of
information
about
what
they
looked
at.
What
they
found
that
type
of
a
thing
we
don't
I,
don't
think
we
have
a
final
copy
of
the
study
yet,
but
that
might
be
informative.
F
But
a
lot
of
this
might
go
back
to
the
number
of
officers
that
were
requested
and
the
number
of
officers
that
were
funded
during
last
year's
budget
process
and
this
year's
budget
process
and
to
the
extent
that
that
was
constrained
not
by
the
council.
But
with
the
request.
Then
that
puts
you
in
a
little
bit
of
a
box
here
and
I.
F
Don't
know
what
the
answer
is,
but
I
think
it's
a
good
point
that
whenever
you
are
hiring
officers,
that's
the
time
when
you
have
the
most
flexibility
or
funding
officers
to
be
hired,
the
most
flexibility
to
create
a
new
program
or
or
to
be
sure
that
the
needs
are
met.
And
so
the
chief
is
now
expressing
that
over
time
is
a
difficult
thing
to
use
for
for
meeting
a
need.
True,
the
real
opportunity
is
in
in
funding
those
officers.
F
So
do
you
want
to
ask
the
chief
say
you
wanted
to
fund
more
officers
and
you
don't
have
to
wait
for
the
new
budget
or
anything
like
that
to
do
that
when
when
would
it
work,
when
when
could
the
department
do
a
new
class
or
or
that
type
of
a
thing,
so
you're
not
just
asking?
What
can
you
do
with
overtime?
But
what
can
you
do
to
meet
the
need
that
you
have
expressed
a.
H
Recently,
I
think.
Yes,
we
can
talk
about
capacity
building
as
far
as
hiring
more
officers
going
forward.
I
think
my
question
for
tonight,
though,
is
this
money
that
we're
set
to
vote
on,
essentially
to
prove
it
will
go
towards
funding
between
now
and
April
security
for
this
Square
and
this
building
is
that
accurate
and
then
in
April?
Some
would
go
towards
we've
talked
about
before
about
the.
F
S
A
S
Six
months,
no,
for
nine
months,
when
I
ran
out
the
numbers
further
for
the
different
shifts
that
they
felt
like
they
needed
to
patrol
the
parks,
the
urban
land
the
trail
way
and
all
those
things
it
would
be.
1.1
million
I've
got
the
numbers
here,
but
I
think
we'd
be
better.
That's
ten
officers
I
would
rather
hire
ten
officers
than
live
on
overtime.
So.
A
S
A
That,
but
how
many
hours
our
police
officer
is
saying,
you
know
what
I
can
get
as
much
overtime
as
I
want
and
if
we
hire
these
officers.
What
is
that
gonna
do
if
we
hire
more
officers
and
it
takes
down
that
overtime,
so
I
mean
that's.
Those
are
I'm
more
I'm,
more
than
willing
to
fund
more
police
officers,
but
if
it
means
that
we're
doing
it
at
the
detriment
to
the
other
officers
who
are
expecting
X
amount
of
hours
for
overtime
right.
S
No,
but
we
looked
at
the
numbers
and
about
50%
of
our
officers
actually
participate
in
overtime.
So
there's
there
are
a
lot
of
others
that
don't
so.
If
the
number
came
down
there
would
be
more
overtime
for
everyone.
So
again
it's
a
tricky
to
read
the
tea
Leafs
and
find
out
where
that
saturation
point
is.
But
when
you
start
to
see
on
our
Posey,
which
is
our
overtime
employment
schedule
when
you
start
to
see
shifts
not
being
filled
there,
you
start
thinking.
Is
there
too
much
overtime
out
there?
S
A
Q
A
A
A
T
Councilmember
Wharton
and
just
want
to
add
to
to
the
questions,
and
since
we're
gonna
be
getting
their
briefing
from
the
outside
group,
can
we
have
them
address
when
you
say,
50
percent
of
our
officers
are
using
over
time
and
those
overtime
hours
are
going
up
to
30
or
more
I.
Remember
exactly
the
number
in
the
30s
that
you
said.
Is
that
appropriate
and
is
that
standard
for
in
other
departments?
So
I'd
like
to
know
that
too,
for
the
briefing
we
don't
need
that
tonight.
Thank.
S
Q
The
next
item
is
a
12.
This
is
a
request
for
$27,000
from
the
general
fund
funds
balance
for
a
capital
improvement
program,
an
impact
fee
administrator.
This
would
be
a
new
full-time
employee
in
the
can
director's
office
working
on
CIP
and
impact
fees.
The
council
asked
for
additional
information,
such
as
a
Job
Description,
which
is
pending.
We
do
I,
do
want
to
remind
the
council
that
in
the
fiscal
year
20
annual
budget,
you
funded
a
full-time
Financial
Analysts
to
focus
on
CIP
in
the
finance
department.
That
position
is
filled.
Q
Q
Ok,
the
the
$27,000
that's
requested
in
the
budget
amendment
is
only
for
three
months.
At
the
last
briefing,
it
was
discussed
that
there
would
be
benefits
of
hiring
the
position
in
time
for
January
so
that
it's
better
aligned
with
the
annual
CIP
and
annual
budget
preparation
processes.
That
would
be
an
additional
three
months,
so
that
would
be
doubling
it
from
the
current
27,000.
That's
requested,
there's
a
strawpoll.
Q
If
the
council
supports
that
approach,
you
could
do
a
strawpoll
for
early
hire
advertising,
or
you
could
request
additional
information
about
we're
waiting
for
the
job
description,
but
also
additional
information
about
how
this
position
would
work
with
the
other
departments.
Since
CIP
is
a
multi
department
process.
So.
A
Q
So
that'd
be
fifty
four
thousand
the
other
update.
Is
the
council
asked
for
information
about
the
second
deputy
director
in
hand?
As
a
reminder,
the
council
created
this
position
in
the
fiscal
year
16
annual
budget
as
a
project
coordinator,
to
implement
master
plans
specifically
implementing
the
master
plans
through
zoning
and
CIP
funding
to
kind
of
kickstart.
The
master
plans
that
have
been
adopted
by
the
council.
The
position
was
changed
to
a
deputy
director,
the
following
fiscal
year.
Q
2017
the
pace
stayed
the
same,
but
changing
the
title
was
perceived
as
an
incentive
for
hiring
of
the
position
under
prior
hand.
Leadership.
The
position
was
focusing
on
housing
development
and
not
on
implementing
master
plans.
The
position
was
then
downgraded
to
a
pay
grade
of
32
and
was
reclassified
to
a
policy
and
program
manager,
and
the
position
was
then
this
fiscal
year
transferred
to
the
can
director's
office
as
part
of
the
larger
transfer
of
CIP
and
real
estate
functions
from
hand
into
the
can
director's
office.
So
there's
a
policy
question.
A
Q
Position
has
been
filled,
but
it
was
focused
on
housing,
development
under
prior
hand.
Leadership,
instead
of
being
focused
on
master
plan
implementation.
At
one
point,
former
city,
employee,
Matt,
Dahl
was
focused
on
it
and
he
was
working
on
master
plan.
Implementation,
of
course,
he's
left
the
city
a
few
years
ago.
Yeah.
You
know.
O
A
Q
Q
Q
That
would
be
the
funding
source
for
this
one
and
a
half
million
dollar
increase
the
one
and
a
half
million
dollars
was
typically
included
in
annual
budgets,
but
it
was
not
in
fiscal
year
twenty,
which
is
why
it's
appearing
in
this
budget
amendment,
the
other
dollar
amount
of
fourteen
and
a
half
million
dollars,
is
listed
as
a
fund
balance,
which
is
a
bit
of
a
misnomer.
In
this
case
it
is
not
cash
in
an
account.
Q
Q
And
then
there
are
two
council
items:
one
is
additional
funding
for
three
creeks
confluence
funding.
This
is
a
three
councilmember
Johnston
requested.
This
item
be
added.
It
is
currently
got
a
$200,000
placeholder.
It
would
be
intended
to
preserve
flexibility
for
this
project.
It
may
be
familiar
in
August,
the
council
appropriated.
Q
August,
the
council
appropriated
half
a
million
dollars
to
purchase
land
adjacent
to
this
new
city
park.
The
administration
has
updated
information
about
this
property
matter.
That
would
probably
be
better
to
discuss
in
a
closed
session.
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
the
staff
report
has
a
table
for
all
of
the
existing
funding
sources
for
the
three
creeks
confluence
park.
If
you
want
to
take
a
look
at
that
and
the
$200,000
in
additional
funding,
there
are
five
possible
funding
sources.
There's
the
surplus
land
fund.
Q
So
if
the
council
wanted
fund
balance
to
cover
it
next
year,
when
the
county
reimburses
that
that's
six
hundred
six
thousand
dollars,
some
of
that
money
could
then
reimburse
the
general
fund
fund
balance
for
fronting
the
money.
At
this
point,
if
there
are
specific
questions,
staff
can
follow
up
on
those.
Otherwise
it
would
probably
be
best
to
continue
the
discussion
in
a
closed
session.
Q
Q
The
changes
from
the
administration's
proposal
are
instead
of
funding
the
incoming
mayor's
salary
and
benefits
at
50%
as
the
transition
ordinance
states.
Instead,
the
funding
would
go
to
a
communications
director
for
the
incoming
mayor,
so
it's
the
seventeen
thousand
three
hundred
and
sixty
five
going
to
the
communications
director
instead
of
the
incoming
mayor.
The
other
change
is
the
administration
forwarded
the
budget
amendment
with
a
most
expensive
scenario,
which
was
assuming
three
new
councilmembers.
We
now
know
that
there's
only
one,
so
we
can
reduce
the
incoming
councilmember
expenses
to
just
a
third.
Q
The
other
change
is
the
funding
for
transition.
Related
expenses
for
the
council
office
can
also
be
reduced
to
one-third,
since
there's
only
one
incoming
councilmember
instead
of
three,
which
was
the
original
estimate
taken
together.
These
changes
are:
twenty
thousand
six
hundred
eighty
one
dollars
less
than
the
administration's
proposal.
This
is
coming
from
the
general
funds
fund
balance
and
there
would
be
four
temporary
positions
that
would
be
funded
and
once
the
transition
period
is
over,
On
January
6
those
temporary
positions
within
transition
into
the
regular
full-time
employee
positions.
C
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
a
couple
of
things
to
make
sure
I
agree
with
everything
Ben
has
described,
but
the
transition
ordinance
is
not
entirely
clear,
and
so
we
have
had
to
extrapolate
a
little
bit
as
to
how
to
apply
that
the
transition
ordinance
contemplates
what
the
council
may
do,
but
it
doesn't
bind
the
council
to
do
anything,
and
so
then
the
council
can
of
course,
just
adopt
an
ordinance
as
per
the
proposal,
but
that
didn't
fit
this
year
either
because
we
have
the
mayor
elect.
C
Is
it
as
an
individual
who
intends
to
remain
on
the
council
and
you
can't
be
paid
by
the
council
and
paid
by
the
administration
at
the
same
time?
So
just
to
make
sure
everyone
understands
what
we're
doing
here.
These
are
going
to
be
for
temporary
employee
positions,
so
they
will
become
city
employees
tomorrow
on
a
receiving
benefits
and
half
salary,
etc,
etc
through
that
through
the
inauguration.
In
the
ordinary
scenario.
C
C
But
in
this
case
the
mayor
elect
is
not
going
to
be
one
of
those
employees,
so
we're
creating
three
transitional
employees
selected
by
the
mayor
elect,
but
who
will
then
be
operating
without
direct
line
items
supervision
within
the
structure,
if
that
makes
sense
so
to
make
all
of
that
work
under
the
direction
from
the
council
office,
those
positions
have
been
placed
within
Human
Resources
rather
than
within
the
mayor's
office,
just
for
that
transition
period.
So
is
that.
Q
F
F
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
these,
and
tonight
we
are
looking
at
taking
action
only
on
the
transitional
funding
and
for
the
rest
of
this
agenda
items
12
and
13
we're
actually
going
to
bump
until
next
week.
So
if
you're
on
that
item,
you
are
off
the
hook,
but
we
are
looking
to
go
into
a
closed
meeting.
We
need
to
look
for
a
motion
for
that.