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A
To
today's
city
council
meeting
we're
grateful
to
have
you
joining
us
as
you've
probably
seen
we're
continuing
to
hold
our
electronic
meetings
due
to
the
practice
of
social
distancing.
Although
conducting
our
meetings
electronically
is
different
from
our
normal
in-person
meetings,
this
is
still
considered
an
open
public
meeting
for
the
work
session.
We
welcome
members
of
the
public
who
may
be
watching
to
join
our
video
feeds
on
the
council's
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A
A
Your
feedback
is
always
welcome
and
you
can
reach
the
city
council
anytime
by
mailing
us
at
po
box,
145,
476,
salt
lake
city,
utah,
8414-5476
or
emailing
us
at
council
dot
comments
at
slcgov.com
or
by
calling
our
24
hour
comment
line
at
801,
535-7654,
we'll
now
move
on
to
our
work
session
items.
Our
first
item
is
related
to
the
mayor's
update.
A
A
B
First,
I
just
want
to
note
that
the
mayor
is
not
in
attendance
at
the
meeting
today.
So
you're
stuck
with
me
and
lisa.
B
Do
the
best
we
can
so
I
wanted
to
address
the
items
that
you
just
mentioned,
and
you
know
I
will
do
that.
I
also
want
to
make
sure
to
hopefully
get
to
some
of
the
other
things
that
we're
working
through
in
response
to
the
covet
emergency.
B
So
first
I'll
start
with
the
extension
of
the
emergency
declaration,
which
the
current
time
frame
ends
on
august
14th,
and
I
know
in
your
formal
meeting
tonight,
you'll
consider
extending
that.
We
hope
that
hope
that
you
will,
of
course,
and
like
to
like,
would
like
to
continue
working
with
you
as
we
as
we
are
doing
some
long-term
planning
on
covid
response
and
relief
over
the
next,
for
what
the
city
will
do,
both
internally
with
our
operations
and
then
externally,
to
address
some
of
the
impacts
of
covet
in
the
community.
B
So
we're
we're
working
on
our
longer
range
covid
plan
and
we
hope
to
be
able
to
roll
that
out
by
september
1st,
and
that
plan
includes
components
on
operations
and
service
health
of
both
employees
and
residents,
education
and
child
care,
economic
support
and
housing.
Stability
and
homelessness.
So
we'll
be
excited
to
share
that
with
you
here
in
the
coming
weeks
as
well.
B
The
data
I
wanted
to
address
quickly
too,
before
moving
on
to
some
of
the
other
substantive
issues.
We
continue
to
work
with
the
county
health
department
and
the
state
department
of
health
to
try
to
get
accurate
data
for
small
areas
in
our
city,
particularly
the
areas
that
have
seen
the
highest
impacts
from
covid.
B
I've
been
able
to
forward
to
you
the
last
couple
of
weeks,
some
additional
small
area
data
from
the
state,
and
we
should
be
receiving
that
each
week,
probably
about
an
hour
ago,
I
received
the
latest
batch
of
data
from
the
state
and
forward
that
on
to
council
staff,
this
data
includes
positive
cases,
testing
rates,
density
rates
per
100,
000
and
some
other
kind
of
more
fine-grained
information
than
we've
been
able
to
get
from
the
county.
Thus
far,
so
that's
been
instructive.
B
It
also
comes
along
with
a
recommendation
from
the
health
experts
at
the
state
in
terms
of
making
those
shifts
from
you
know
certain
color,
the
color
system
and
last
week's
data
showed
really
promising
trends,
even
in
the
small
areas
that
have
seen
some
of
the
biggest
impacts
so,
namely
the
the
downtown
area,
rose
park
and
glendale.
B
But
even
with
this
week's
data,
which
also
continues
to
show
those
good
trends,
those
areas
still
have
higher
rates
and
the
recommendation
from
the
state
is
not
to
make
a
change
until
we
see
another
week
of
a
downward
trend.
So
I
was
kind
of
anticipating
seeing
a
shift
or
a
shift
in
the
recommendation
from
the
state
for
us
to
go
to
yellow
this
week.
But
that
is
not
what
I
am
seeing
so
far.
B
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
fully
digest
that
new
data
and
I
should
be
able
to
have
another
conversation
with
rich
saunders
at
the
state
about.
You
know
the
particulars
around
that
data
later
today
or
tomorrow
so
I'll,
make
sure
to
share
that
with
council
staff
too
any
questions
on
either
the
data
or
the
emergency
declaration.
Before
we
move
on
to
the
other
items,
you've
asked
about.
A
I
don't
have
any
council
members.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
for
rachel
about
that?
That's
councilmember,
voldemort.
C
Hi
rachel,
so
just
to
just
to
summarize
we're
still
on
fa
on
the
orange
phase,
correct
in
salt
lake
city
correct,
and
are
we
according
to
the
that
that
other
you're
going
to
receive
or
review?
Are
we
planning
on
moving
to
you
know
more
strict
or
less
strict,
okay,.
B
Well,
at
this
point
at
this
point,
the
recommendation
from
both
the
state
and
the
county
have
been
to
stay
where
we
are
so
and
again,
that's
the
health
recommendation
and
you
know
other
factors
go
into
how
you
know
political
entities
make
these
decisions,
but
that's
the
recommendation
from
the
health
experts,
and
so
I
think,
we're
comfortable
staying
there
at
this
point.
C
B
C
B
That's
a
good
question.
So
next
week
you'll
be
hearing
the
first
you'll
you'll
get
presented
with
the
best
amendment
that
will
that
addresses
the
allocation
of
those
cares,
funding,
there's
much
dollars
that
we've
gotten
from
the
county.
So
that's
the
county
portion.
B
I
have
a
quick
update
for
you
on
the
hud,
cares
funding
money
which
is
a
different
pool
and
has
different
sorts
of
you
know,
restrictions
and
goals
and
timelines
that
I'm
I'm
happy
to
address
in
the
housing
stability
context,
if
you,
if
you'd
like
me,
to
do
that
now,
but
in
terms
of
the
money
that
we've
gotten
thus
far
from
the
county,
see
what
what
we're
requesting
to
allocate
that
money
toward.
As
soon
as
you
see
that
budget
amendment
transmittal.
A
Okay,
I
don't
see
any
other
hand
so
rachel
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
the
other.
Other
topics.
D
Hi
thanks
rachel
thanks
council
chair.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
update
you
a
few
weeks
ago.
I
informed
each
of
you
about
a
forthcoming
document
that
would
provide
a
common
framework
for
directors,
managers,
supervisors
and
employees
alike
on
how
city
operations
have
been
modified,
as
well
as
how
operations
will
continue
to
be
modified
in
the
future
due
to
covet
19..
D
This
document
is
titled
the
readiness
actions
modification
plan
or
ramp,
and
I'm
happy
to
announce
that
this
document
is
finally
ready
for
distribution.
It's
been
a
very,
very
long
and
arduous
work
task
that
I
assigned
a
really
incredible
team
of
city
employees
to
undertake
and
they've
they've
really
done
a
fantastic
job.
So
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
them,
so
the
plan
is
vital
in
ensuring
that
we
as
a
city
continue
to
provide
high
quality
services,
while
also
protecting
the
health
and
the
safety
of
our
employees
and
salt
lake
city
residents
and
visitors.
D
So
further,
the
ramp
has
categorized
the
work
environments
into
five
broad
categories,
general
office,
warehouse
or
workshop
public
utilities
or
infrastructure,
public
safety
and
customer
service
areas.
So
every
work
environment
protocols
are
broken
down
by
risk
level
and
then
the
risk
level
that
salt
lake
city
is
operating
within
will
be
the
same
risk
level
that
city
employees
operate
under
based
upon
the
state's
risk
level.
It's
it's
a
lot.
D
It's
very
wordy.
The
document
ended
up
being
a
lot
bigger
and
more
complicated
than
we
thought
it
would
be,
and
so
what
I
asked
the
team
to
do
was
break
it
down
into
some
manageable
graphics
that
employees
could
use.
So,
in
addition
to
the
to
the
plan
itself,
an
email
template
is
going
to
be
sent
out
to
all
of
the
supervisors.
D
You
all
will
receive
that
through
council
staff.
That
will
help
you
sort
of
disseminate
and
go
through
the
ramp
plan
itself.
Then
there
will
be
some
infographics,
both
in
spanish
and
english,
that
will
show
the
work
environments
and
the
risk
level
protocols
for
every
work
environment
based
upon
the
risk
level.
D
We
have
developed
some
talking
points
and
some
faqs,
so
that
supervisors
and
managers
and
directors
can
talk
with
employees
about
questions
that
they
might
have
about
the
plan
or
protocol
during
the
work
environment.
And
then
you
know
a
symptom
decision
tree.
So
it's
a
kind
of
a
guidance
for
supervisors
to
help
them
figure
out
what
kind
of
decision
to
make
during
the
culvert
19
emergency.
D
We
anticipate
that
this
probably
be
modified
as
we
learn
more
we're
learning
more
all
the
time
which
is
part
of
what
made
it
very
complicated
and,
to
that
end,
we're
putting
together
a
website
that
will
contain
the
most
updated
ramp,
written
venus
action,
modification
plan
and
subsequent
documents
so
that
our
employees
can
have
access
to
the
most
up-to-date
information.
D
We're
also
in
the
process
of
transferring
the
plan
from
the
team
that
developed
it
over
into
two
departments
where
it
will
reside
for
its
useful
future.
So
the
hr
department
in
relation
to
the
employee
impacts
and
then
the
emergency
management
division,
where
they
will
make
this
plan
a
part
of
their
supplemental
emergency
planning.
D
B
Thanks
lisa,
so
let's
switch
back
to
external
and
partnership
opportunities
in
the
city
that
we're
working
on
for
coping
relief
and
I'll
start
with
I'll
start
with
the
encampment
resolution
and
encampment
abatements
that
I
know
that
a
lot
of
you
have
been
getting
questions
about,
and
I
know
that
the
mayor's
office
and
the
liaisons
have
been
getting
a
lot
of
questions
about,
and
this
is
a
this
is
obviously
an
enormous
issue
and
it's
been
complicated
and
intensified
by
coved.
B
The
the
just
just
by
way
of
background
the
the
hand
team,
the
heart
team
specifically
has
been
working
on
developing
a
holistic
and
articulable
encampment
resolution
program.
This
started.
You
know
it
started
months
ago
back
in
the
spring,
when
we
did
the
work
when
hand
re-engaged
the
cloud
burst
consulting
group
to
help
consult
on
how
to
approach
these
encampments.
What
are
nationwide
best
practices?
B
You
know
some
timelines
of
here's,
here's
what
the
city
will
do
at
certain
stages,
and
if
this,
if
this
measure
doesn't
work,
then
they
move
on
to
the
next
phase
and
then
the
next
phase
of
encampment
resolution,
so
I'm
hoping
to
be
in
a
place
with
hand
and
the
the
experts
there
to
hold
some
small
group
meetings
with
you
all
to
go
through.
You
know
what
that
will
look
like
and
the
different
entities
involved
and
the
timelines
involved,
and
then
we're
planning
on
doing
some
specific
outreach
to
different.
B
You
know
to
to
the
community
councils
to
the
downtown
alliance
and
to
other
business
areas
that
are
impacted
by
these
by
these
issues,
which
you
know
I
realize
are,
are
a
huge
concern
for
every
for
all
of
you
for
and
for
all
of
us
as
well.
So
you
know
the
the.
The
idea
is
that
the
holistic
program
will
include
consistent
camp
abatement
in
coordination
with
the
with
outreach
which
will
provide
pathways
to
housing,
mental
and
physical
health
resources
and
other
things
prior
to
camp
abatements.
B
The
county's
role
in
that
is
to
provide
on-site
coordination,
some
tools
and
staff,
so
that's
sort
of
the
division
of
duties
of
how
we
address
these
right.
Now
we
get
data
from
call-in
complaints
in
the
mobile
app
to
determine
responses
that
meet
the
needs
of
each
encampment
in
the
area
directly
surrounding
it
there's
you
know,
there's
obviously
a
difference
between
an
encampment.
What
what
actually
is?
Would
be
defined
as
an
encampment
and
what's
a
congregation
site
for
people
during
the
day
and
there's
different
laws
and
ordinances
that
we
can
use.
B
You
know,
depending
on
what
the
goal
is
and
what
the
area
requires.
There's
there
are
right
now,
as
you
all
know
too.
Well,
there's
several
different.
There
are
several
different
encampment
and
congregation
sites
throughout
the
city,
and
sometimes
you
know
the
time
and
the
resources
to
abate
them
are
somewhat
limited.
B
So
currently
the
heart
team,
the
county
health
department,
the
police
department
and
outreach
workers
together
determine
which
sites
are
the
highest
priority
for
abatement
based
on
size,
location,
any
of
the
specialized
needs
of
the
campers
like
mental
health
or
treatment
and
any
associated
health
or
safety
concerns
they're.
In
addition
to
staffing
and
resources
and
time,
there
are
some
current
challenges
that
relate
to
coved.
B
They
have
limited
encampment
response
to
abatement.
If
encampments
don't
fall
into
the
small,
clean
and
law
abiding
categories
set
forth
by
the
governor.
The
most
recent
cleanups
by
county
health
were
conducted
at
the
end
of
july
and
during
that
time
a
county
health
department
staff
member
was
threatened
by
an
individual.
B
In
the
camp
and
police
ended
up
needing
to
restrain
that
person
who
was
threatening
the
staff
member
and
as
a
result
of
that,
the
health
department
has
put
hope
and
put
abatements
on
hold
in
salt
lake
city
until
staff
safety
protocols
can
be
reviewed.
So
my
to
my
knowledge,
slcpd
and
the
health
department
leadership
met
last
week
to
discuss
potential
procedures
and
addressing
encampments.
B
So
these
are
you
know.
Obviously,
there's
complex
issues
in
different
jurisdictions
involved
a
lot
of
different
areas
that
need
attention
right
now,
but
again
just
to
go
back
to
the
to
the
main
goal
and,
in
addition
to
just
kind
of
you
know,
doing
the
process
that
we've
always
done
here
to
try
to
somewhat
triage
these
places.
B
The
goal
for
us
right
now
is
to
be
able
to
have
some
clear
timelines
for
what
what
encampment
resolution
looks
like
and
be
able
to
talk
to
both
the
individuals
in
the
camp
and
also
the
surrounding
neighbors
about
what
those
timelines
look
like
and
what's
entailed
at
each
phase
of
the
resolution
process.
So
questions
about.
C
C
However,
things
are
more
immediate
than
that.
So
this
looks
like
this
is
a
somewhat
longer
term,
which
is
great
because
we
need
to
have
that.
But
the
concern
in
district
4
is
that
the
incumbents
are
growing,
the
incumbents
are
dirtier
and
and
they
pose
a
health
hazard
to
the
neighbors
and
they
are
like,
like
I,
I
didn't
realize
that
we
stopped
cleaning
back
at
the
end
of
july,
so
we
are
on
what
august
11th
and
that's.
Why?
Probably
that's
what
we're
getting
even
more
calls
lately,
because
there
hasn't
been
any
cleanup.
C
I
I
drive.
You
know
I
live
in
district
four,
so
I
drive
around
and
I
can
see
it
so
the
constituents
don't
have
to
tell
me
like
I,
I
know
we're
looking
at.
So
what
are?
How
can
we
help
you
guys
to
have
a
shorter
term
solution
right
now,
so
we're
dealing
with
we're
dealing
with
a
pandemic?
Yes,
but
we're
also
dealing
with
health
hazards
and
physiological
needs
physiological
human
needs
that
are,
you
know
you
cannot
control
it.
That's
how
our
bodies,
work
and
people
need
to
use
the
bathroom.
C
So
what
what
can
we
do
to
help
you
guys
to
find
a
short-term
solution
so
that
we
can
help
our
neighbors?
That
are
saying
this
is
what's
happening?
I
don't
want
to
get
it.
I
don't
want
to
clean
this.
I
don't
want
to
see.
I
mean
because
it's
a
health
hazard
right
now
until
you
guys
figure
out
your
installment
resolution
program.
B
Well,
thank
you
for
asking
the
question
you're
right
that
the
encampment
resolution
program
is
a
little
bit
of
a
longer
term
strategy
and
right
now
we're
doing
what
we
have
done
in
the
past,
which
is
kind
of
you
know
we
sort
of
triage
the
hot
spots
and
we
prioritize
based
on
you,
know
what
we're
seeing
and
what
what
seems
to
be
the
most
immediate.
So
I
think
resources
are
an
issue.
B
It's
it's
enough
resources
in
the
hand
and
then
the
heart
team
in
that
outreach
team,
it's
county
and
state
resources
too,
that
all
of
those
things
you
know,
as
you
point
out,
the
health
department
abatement
process
is
probably
not
necessarily
something
that
you
know
that
we
as
a
city
might
want
to
take
on.
Maybe
we
do
that's,
probably
a
bigger
policy
discussion
and
probably
needs
to
come
along
with
you
know
what
is
the
city's
role
in
addressing
homelessness?
B
That's
it's
a
bigger
conversation
that
I
know
that
you
know
you
guys
all
think
a
lot
about,
but
there's
there
there
is
role
clarity
around
how
we
provide
services,
how
the
county
provides
services
where
people
who
end
up
in
encampments
are
coming
from
and
what
the
state's
role
in
other
cities
roles
are
there
where,
where
the
home
resource
centers
are
located
and
where
they're
not
there's,
there's
just
there's
a
lot
of
complexity.
B
There
I
mean,
I
think,
if,
if
the
council
is,
is
willing
to
consider
proposals
for
actually
increasing
resources
to
the
hand
team
or
the
heart
team
or
to
you
know
the
contracts
with
advantaged
services
or
other
entities
that
help
us
manage
these
I'd.
Love
to
you
know
to
be
able
to
bring
forward
a
more
detailed
proposal
with
the
input
of
the
those
departments.
A
Council
member
was
that
mono.
F
Yes,
yeah
apologies
for
my
camera,
I'm
obviously
I'm
away
from
home
and
operating
on
limited
internet
resources,
but
I
want
to
put
an
exclamation
point
on
what
council
member
voldemort
said,
because
I'm
hearing
a
lot
of
the
same
concerns
in
district
5
as
well
and
just
living
in
the
area
very
close
to
one
of
the
hot
spots.
I
I
know
that
it's
really
increased
a
lot
in
the
last
just
even
couple
weeks.
I
feel,
and
the
volume
and
number
of
complaints
that
I'm
getting
from
constituents
has
also
increased.
F
So
I
I
also
think
that
there
are
immediate
concerns
that
we
need
to
address.
I
I'm
sensitive
to,
and
I
understand
the
feelings
that
this
isn't
just
our
only
our
responsibility
and
the
county
and
state
need
to
also
bring
forward
resources,
but
in
so
much
as
the
council
and
the
city
can
support
these
efforts.
I
think
that
that's
important,
so
I
am
interested
in
what
rachel
mentioned
in
terms
of
what
the
discussion
as
to
what
the
city
could
do
if
we
were
to
put
more
resources
towards
the
hand
or
the
heart
team.
F
A
C
I
was
muted,
I'm
sorry
so
yeah,
so
that
goes
along
along
what
council
member
manuel
said.
My
I
wanted
to
understand
how
the
work
the
advantage
services
like
what
do
we
hire
them
for
and
most
my
understanding
was
that
they
would
come
over
every
48
hours
and
potentially
go
and
clean
up
some
encampments.
C
So,
in
my
mind,
I'm
like
okay,
I
don't
think
that's
enough
right
now.
Can
we
have
cleanups
more
often,
for
example,
so
rachel
please
go
ahead
and
help
me
understand
like
the
day-to-day
thing,
and
how
can
we
help
you.
B
Thanks
again,
I
would
want
to.
I
don't
want
to
speak
out
of
turn
around
what
their
capabilities
are.
I
know
that
we
contract
with
them
to
to
do
what
you're
talking
about,
which
is
to
do
biowaste,
cleanups
to
do
garbage
pickups
in
the
area
and
other
things,
but
I
wouldn't
want
to
say
that
that's
sort
of
the
silver
bullet
answer
here,
because
there's
you
know,
there's
it's
not
just
a
matter
of
being
able
to
clean
up
it's
a
matter
of
like
then.
Where
do
people
go
and
does
that
really?
How
does
that
solve?
B
You
know
what
does
that
solve?
But
I
mean
that
said:
I'm
I'm
I'm
totally
sensitive
to
what
what
you
and
councilmember
mano
are
saying,
which
is
you
know
the
neighborhood
is
impacted
and
the
neighborhood
needs
relief
and
they
need
to
you
know
we
we
can't
have
human
waste
all
over
in
you
know
different
parts
of
the
city,
it's
just
it's!
It's
not
acceptable,
it's
not
something
that
we
can
just
allow
to
happen.
B
So
that
may
be
one
one
thing
that
I
would
want
to
come
to
you
and
and
suggest
that
we
would
expand
a
contract
with
advantage
services,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
is
something
that
would
be
really
useful
before
I
am
simply
just
before
we're
just
simply
asking
you
to
devote
more
resources
to
something
that
may
only
be
you
know,
a
small
fraction
of
the
issue,
so
I
I
would
welcome
the
a
bigger
conversation
with
the
hand
and
heart
team-
and
maybe
you
know
with
even
with
the
county
too
around
like
what
what
is
what's
the
role
of
each
of
us
and
how
can
we
ex
what
are
the
gaps
like?
C
So
rachel-
I
I
do
agree
with
you
like
there's
bigger
conversations
to
have
and
we're
we're
addressing.
You
know
the
bigger
conversation,
the
housing
conversation,
the
providers
conversation
having
new
hrcs
in
our
district.
I
think
we're
we're
on
on
the
right
path,
but
there
and
but
those
are
long
term.
C
There
are
in
more
immediate
things
right
now
that
I
think
we
are
lacking.
That's
what
what
I
think
I'm
trying
to
say
and
in
council
member.
Maybe
what
can
we
do
right
now?
So,
obviously,
if
we,
if
we
give,
you
know
if
we
support
advantage
services,
hire
them
for
more
hours
or
for
more
services,
obviously
we're
just.
C
This
is
not
a
long-term
solution
and
I'm
not
it's
just
a
short-term
solution
for
something
that
it's
to
me
pretty
serious,
a
health
hazard
of
human
waste
and
use
needles
and
any
other
thing
you
know
that
could
come
along
so
and
that's
why
we're
bringing
that
up,
because
I
think
for
the
most
part,
we
are
clear
on
with
our
constituents
what
we
can
and
what
we
can't
do
in
terms
of
people
using
the
public
right
away.
C
You
know
there
are
a
lot
of
issues
that
we
know
we're
not
going
to
get
there,
but
yes,
at
least
we
can.
We
can
address
a
cleanliness,
I
think,
as
a
city,
a
local
government.
We
can
address
the
cleanliness
at
this
point,
and
maybe
maybe
some
of
these
cares
the
cares
funding
that
you're
getting
some
of
it
could
be
used
as
well,
for
you
know
for
recent
comments,
sure,
but
I
I
really
really
really
want
to
have
a
better
short-term
solution
for
our
constituents,
because
it's
getting
a
little
bit
out
of
hand.
G
Thanks,
thank
you,
rachel
and,
and
anna
and
darren
on
on
north
temple.
I
want
to
call
it
a
couple
things
that
are
going
better
and
then
tie
them
into
another
conversation
happening
above
the
city
level
on
north
temple.
We
have
the
same
issues.
G
I
think
there's
really
three
issues,
three
areas
in
the
city
that
are
particularly
hit
right
now
we
can
name
those
out:
it's
not
overnight,
camping,
so
much
it's
daytime
stuff
and
I
think
that's
a
huge
issue,
that's
separate
than
the
camping
we
need
to
deal
with
with
the
shelter
and
so
on
north
temple.
We
are
getting
cleaning
from
advantage
services
three
days
a
week,
but
the
local
businesses
are
also
stepping
in
and
doing
their
own
cleaning
on
the
streets
and
able
to
clean
up
twice
or
three
times
a
week
as
well.
G
I'm
not
shy
about
calling
them
out
and
saying
they're
doing
a
great
job.
Those
businesses
are
doing
everything
they
possibly
can
to
help.
It's
not
penalizing
homelessness.
It's
trying
to
keep
it
clean
and
have
a
physical
presence
so
that
the
drug
dealers
and
the
folks
buying
drugs
who
are
driving
in
and
stopping
on
the
side
of
the
road
and
setting
up
camp
for
hours
during
the
daytime
hours
and
leaving
in
the
evenings
are
less
likely
to
be
there.
G
There's
a
public
safety
issue
as
well.
We
work
with
pd
on,
but
I
think
we
know
the
three
areas.
I
think
we
gotta
put
more
resources
there
immediately
in
the
next
eight
weeks
until
october,
when
the
fall
usually
drives
stuff
down
anyway,
and
the
plan
should
be
to
have
more
resources
for
the
winter
overflow.
So
I
think
I'd
be
apt
on
this
council
into
things
to
look
into
our
non-existent
budget
and
figure
out
for
eight
weeks.
G
What
do
we
need
can't
be
wrapped
up
quickly
for
cleaning
and
other
sort
of
public
health
stuff
that
way
on
the
state
level?
There
was
a
subcommittee
meeting,
I
believe,
last
week,
when
I
think
representative
gray
mentioned
that
he
felt
the
city
was
not
doing
its
part
in
following
up
operation,
rio
grande
to
help
the
rio
run
area.
G
I
am
incredibly
frustrated
by
that
statement
for
a
number
of
reasons
number
one
calling
out
salt
lake
city
for
this,
based
on
everything,
we're
doing
and
not
acknowledging
every
other
city
on
the
wasatch
front
right
now,
I'm
going
to
be
blunt
right
now
and
ask
if
we
want
to
ask
every
city:
are
they
having
a
zero
tolerance
policy
for
the
unsheltered
in
their
jurisdiction?
G
That
means
that
cities
like
us
are
carrying
the
burden
of
this
in
the
brunt
of
it,
and
I
don't
want
to
be
cruel
or
mean
to
anybody
else
on
councils
or
cities
anywhere
else,
but
this
has
got
to
be
a
discussion
if
there
are
cities
that
are
implementing
actively
enforcing
against
the
unsheltered
in
their
jurisdictions
and
citing
them
and
putting
them
in
court
to
drive
them
out
of
the
city.
G
G
The
third
piece
I
think
we
need
to
address
right
now
quickly
is
the
fact
that
businesses
are
being
disproportionately
affected
in
some
areas
of
the
city,
and
I
think
we
need
to
take
economic
development,
other
resources
and
hit
those
business,
small
businesses
with
a
lot
of
support,
and
this
might
be
that
some
of
the
money
we
use
sometimes
traditionally
for
facade
improvements,
and
things
like
that
are
great
and
I
think
they're
still
needed
for
some
upgrades
for
fencing
around
businesses
and
things
like
that.
G
I
think
we
need
to
increase
that
and
focus
on
particularly
ballpark,
probably
first
south,
and
maybe
some
downtown
and
north
temple,
and
give
some
business
support
immediately
for
small
business
owners.
I
think
they
are
really
struggling
in
those
areas
to
handle
things.
We're
talking
about
are
driving
business
away,
and
these
are
not
long-term
things,
but
in
the
short
term,
we
gotta
help
addressing
that.
So
I
think
economic
development
could
be
a
part
of
this,
as
well,
at
least
for
the
next
two
to
three
months.
H
Thank
you.
I
certainly
agree
with
everything
that's
been
said.
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we're
seeing
in
in
district
7
is
more
of
that
immediate
need
for
cleanup
and
and
not
displacement.
Necessarily
not.
You
know.
I
certainly
have
a
fear
of
violating
someone's
constitutional
rights
by
taking
their
things
without
probable
cause
to
take
them,
but
certainly
cleaning
up
trash
and
waste
bio
waste,
and
things
like
that
is
something
that's
necessary.
H
I
completely
agree
with
with
council
member
johnston.
I
do
have
a
practical
question
when
we
sit
and
talk
about
involving
other
cities.
H
H
What
is
it
because
it's
not
the
first
time
that
we've
talked
about
it,
yet
I
haven't
seen
anything
done
about
calling
people
out
in
other
cities,
and
I
don't
know
what
that
looks
like.
So
I'm
certainly
not
saying
that's
not
what
we
need
to
do.
I'm
wondering
honestly
and
sincerely
what
are
the
steps
practically
we
can
take
to
have
that
conversation
open
up
from
a
and
and
we've
had
conversations
with
the
state.
I'm
gonna
leave
that
on
the
side
right,
because
we've
had
conversations
over
there.
H
Fine
and
maybe
we've
had
conversations
with
with
at
least
the
health
department
and
probably
members
of
the
county.
But
if
we're
talking
about
other
jurisdictions,
that's
around
salt
lake
city,
what
is
it
that
we,
as
council
members
or
we
as
administration,
can
do
to
have
those
conversations?
What
do
I
need
to
be
doing?
I
guess,
is
my
question
for
that.
B
A
Go
ahead
and
try
and
yeah
go
ahead.
A
B
A
You
feel
comfortable
giving
an
answer.
Please
do.
B
Okay,
well,
here's
my
here's.
My
attempt
on
just
a
couple
of
the
points
that
you
raised:
councilmember
fowler.
I
think
you
know
you're
right
on
where
this
is
the
perennial
issue
around.
You
know
what
what
what
lucky
cities
get
to
take
ownership
and
responsibility
around
these
issues
and
it's
the
capital
city.
B
You
know
we're
often
looked
to
as
the
entity
that
is
you
know
not
only
not
only
has
the
most
impacts
from
homelessness,
but
the
entity
where
services
are
and
where
people
tend
to
congregate
and
where
people
tend
to
come,
and
then
we
get
blamed
for
all
of
the
problems
for
not
being
able
to
solve
by
ourselves.
So
I
get
it.
I
haven't
been
at
salt
lake
city
for
very
long,
but
just
my
work
with
other
cities.
You
know
I
realize
how
highly
contentious
these
things
are
in
terms
of
the
winter
shelter.
B
I
think
you
probably
already
know
this,
but
the
the
coalition
to
end
homelessness
has
developed
certain
criteria
for
citing
a
shelter,
a
potential
winter
emergency
shelter
that
work
has
been
ongoing
and
it's
been
led
by
gene
hill
from
catholic
community
services.
I'm
I'm
sure
that
councilmember
johnston
has
been
a
part
of
those
conversations
in
his
professional
life.
David
litvak
has
been
working
on
that
too.
So
I
know
that
you
know
the
probably
the
hard
conversations
around
that
are
yet
to
come.
That
criteria
will
be
presented
to
the
council
of
governments.
B
I
think
on
august
20th,
and
I
think
that
you
guys
have
seen
the
initial
leased
report
around
that
so,
like
I
said,
I
think
the
harder
conversations
are
yet
to
come
as
to
you
know
when
the
rubber
meets
the
road.
Are
we
going
to
be
asked
to
cite?
B
I
think
it's
always.
It's
always
really
crucial
for
elected
officials
to
reach
out
to
elected
officials,
so
that
this
is
in
a
conversation
that
staff
at
cities
is
just
having
among
one
another.
In
a
vacuum-
and
I
think
that
that
you
know
that
often
is
where
it
defaults,
because
staff
is
in
these
issues
every
day
and
they're
they're
focused
on
it
and
everybody.
B
You
know
that
we
we
we
try
to
do
the
will
of
elected
officials,
but
it's
it's
sometimes
difficult
to
to
get
everybody
kind
of
on
a
path
and
having
a
productive
conversation
around
it.
So
I
think,
reaching
out
to
other
cities
and
being
able
to
articulate
what
are
the
impacts
to
salt
lake
city
from
homelessness.
B
Those
are
conversations
that
I
think
it's
always
productive
for
council
members
to
have
with
their
fellow
elected
officials
in
other
cities,
so
that
they
really
understand
that
the
gravity
of
the
situation
here
and
where
our
responsibility
lies.
But
I
think
it
comes
back
to
us
as
a
city
being
able
to
get
some
clarity
around
our
role
in
this
realm.
You
know
and
being
able
to
talk
about
that,
and
it's
not
just
our
role
as
a
city,
but
you
know
where?
Where
does
the
county
take
over?
B
Where
does
the
state
take
over
because
cities
aren't
traditionally
in
this
space?
You
know
we're
not
we're
not
the
entity
that
is
typically
charged
with
health
and
human
services.
That
is
a
county
function.
That
is
not
something
that
cities
have
traditionally
done
in
our
role,
but
as
the
government
closest
to
the
people
we're
the
ones
who
are
asked
to
solve
the
problems.
So
it's
a
you
know.
I
would
welcome
knowing
from
the
council
what
you
see
as
the
city's
role
in
homelessness,
where
you
want
to
fit
into
that,
and
I'd
like
to
have
a
cohesive.
H
Thank
you
rachel,
and
I
appreciate
that,
and
so
I'm
gonna
ask
our
staff
to
follow
up
with
me
and
start
setting
up
small
group
meetings
or
reaching
out
to
our
surrounding
municipalities
and
start
having
those
conversations.
I
also
appreciate
the
idea
of
role
clarity.
I
just
also
don't
want
the.
H
I
think
roles
of
cities
are
changing
throughout
the
country,
as
we
see
in
my
personal
opinion,
sort
of
a
failure
from
our
federal
government
and
then
it
being
thrust
upon
city
governments
and
local
municipality
governments,
and
so
I
think
that
maybe
those
roles
are
evolving
and
changing,
and
I
don't
want
us
to
get
stuck
in
something
where
then
we
just
say:
well,
it's
not
our
job,
it's
somebody
else's,
and
so
I
appreciate
that
open
dialogue,
and
that
is
sitting
down
and
having
those
conversations
of
where
do
we
belong
in
in
solving
or
attempting
to
solve
in
whatever
ways
we
can.
H
Some
of
these
very
critical
issues
of
people
experiencing
homelessness
of
how
it
affects
our
communities,
our
businesses,
our
life,
as
we
know
it
in
salt
lake
city
for
all
of
our
residents,
including
our
unsheltered
companions
in
in
this
city
right.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
when
we
clarify
those
rules,
it's
not
a
just
like
not
our
job
we
don't
have
to
so.
Thank
you.
I
I
do
appreciate
opening
up
that
dialogue.
B
B
I
don't
think
that
we've
done
and
not
not
for
lack
of
of
trying
or
for
lack
of
or
lack
of
ability,
but
I
don't
think,
as
a
city,
we've
done
a
great
job
of
traditionally
telling
our
story
around
all
that
we
do
to
assist
in
homeless
services,
and
I
couldn't
agree
more
that
I
don't
think
the
administration
approaches
this
as
a
pass-the-buck
situation,
but
you
know
we.
We
obviously
want
to
help
and
serve
and
and
figure
out
the
the
best
path
forward
within
our
means.
H
I
would
have
the
administration
invited
to
any
of
those
things,
because
I
appreciate
that
as
well.
I
think
we
you're
absolutely
right,
we
kind
of
do
things
and
then
say:
oh,
we
did
that
thing
over
there.
So
I
think
it's
important
that
we
move
forward
on
that
together,
as,
like
you
said,
as
a
unified
voice
in
in
what
the
city
is
doing
and
trying
to
do.
A
So,
council
members
we're
quite
a
ways
over
about
half
an
hour
over
time
on
this.
So
if
we
want
to
give
direction
to
the
administration,
then
I
don't
want
to
cut
off
debate,
but
if
we
do
want
to
give
him
and
make
a
straw
poll,
let's
move
to
that
and
then
move
on
councilmember
tomorrow.
C
Yeah,
thank
you
thank
you
for
for
doing
that.
I
think
I
do
want
to
strop
all
anybody.
You
know
for
us
inviting
the
administration
and
to
bring
us
a
budget
proposal
as
soon
as
possible,
and
that
will
include
what
we
talked
about
earlier
about
increasing
the
services
of
advantage
services
or
whoever
is
that
it's
doing
the
cleanups
to
a
more
frequent
service
in
all
of
the
areas
that
we
talked
about
today.
C
North
temple,
this
industry,
foreign
district,
five,
where
we've
seen
you
know
the
increased
human
waste
and
and
other
public
hazards
in
terms
of
health-
and
I
wanted
to
add
to
that
physiological
needs-
are
real
and
I
know
we
have
provided
some
bathrooms
out
there.
But
I
think
that's
another
thing
that
I
would
like
to
see
if
we
can
accommodate
in
the
budget.
I
Just
quick,
maybe
a
little
tag
on
to
council
member
voldemort,
is
having
economic
development
come
back
into
these
areas
and
look
at
the
surrounding
businesses
to
look
at
some
sort
of
saa
or
something
like
that.
That
could
help
you
know
pay
for
some
of
these
services.
I
mean
it's,
it's
benefit
the
community,
but
also
them
as
well,
but.
E
A
Okay,
so
let's
go
ahead
and
move
forward
with
councilmember
johnson.
G
Yeah,
I
I
I
don't
get
lease
too
much,
but
I
think
economic
development
needs
to
be
a
discussion
of
this.
I'm
not
sure
an
saa
is
the
thing,
I'm
thinking
more
of
the
existing
programs,
the
mitigation,
the
facade
improvement
programs.
I
think
we
need
to
target
some
targeted
outreach
immediately
to
a
couple
of
hot
spots
in
the
city,
particularly
the
small
businesses.
I
don't
think
waiting
for
them
to
come
to
us
is
going
to
work
very
well.
I
think
we're
going
to
figure
out
how
to
get
there
quickly.
I
Well
in
favor
of
that
council
member
johnson,
but
I'm
looking
for
a
longer
term
solution
as
well,
something
that
will
fund
itself,
but
I'm
all
in
favor
of
looking
at
the
the
facade
improvement
program.
Looking
at
it.
For
you
know
some
sort
of
security
benefit
for
the
area.
You
know
if
the
people
want
to
add
cameras
to
their
area
or
lighting,
something
like
that
to
help
improve
it
as
well.
A
Okay,
so
yes,
cindy
gas,
jensen.
J
Oh,
thank
you.
I
just
wondered
if
you,
because
time
is
short
and
the
need
is
great,
do
you
want
to
express
your
support
for
the
administration
to
not
just
give
bring
you
a
budget
proposal,
but
also
immediately
or
as
soon
as
possible
begin
an
increased
level
of
service
in
the
cleanups,
because
sometimes
what
you
do
is
it's
not
the
official
way
to
do
it,
but
you
can
indicate
to
them
in
good
faith
that
you
will
backfill
that
budget.
A
Okay,
so
well,
I
see
people
raising
their
thumbs,
but
we
have
to
have
a
straw
poll.
Are
we
voting
on
honest
draw
poll?
Are
we
voting
on
what
cindy
just
said.
C
I
think
they're
similar,
oh
sorry,
yeah.
I
asked
for
for
a
proposal
as
soon
as
possible,
but
also
what
cindy
says
to
still
go
ahead
and
increase
the
frequency
of
service.
Slash.
Sorry
how
many
times
I
come
over
and
clean
up
these
areas
that
we
talked
about
today.
I
Well
and
mr
chair
there's
of
course,
there's
going
to
be
some
sort
of
funding
source,
that's
going
to
be
required
for
that.
So
I'd
like
to
see
from
the
administration
service
levels
of
what
we'd
be
looking
at,
give
us
an
option
if
it's
half
a
million,
a
million
two
million
three
million.
What
we're
looking
at.
A
G
Yeah,
if
it
is
because
we're
looking
at
an
eight
to
ten
weeks
window
right
now
from
now,
so
it
can't
wait
for
it
to
get
in.
K
A
Okay,
so
is:
is
everyone
clear
on
what
the
straw
poll
is
rachel?
Are
you
clear
on
what
where
what
the
straw
poll
is.
B
Yes,
I
think
so,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
if,
if
we
are
getting
this
direction,
that
there
aren't
problems
we
run
into
with
procurement
and
other,
like
the
ability
of
a
service
provider
to
actually
be
able
to
increase
service
right
away.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
what
we
do
is
is
actually
what
you
direct
us
to
do
is
something
that
we
actually
can
do.
H
A
Yes,
I
think
so,
so
I'm
we're
just
gonna
go
ahead
and
vote
now.
So
all
in
favor
of
what
council
member
voldemort
said
and
what
councilmember
fowler
sort
of
clarified.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
so
I'm
seeing
I'm
seeing
everyone
that
that's
a
unanimous
straw
poll,
so
thank
you
rachel
hope,
that's
helpful.
We
need
now
to
move
on
to
item
number
two
which
is
updates
on
racial
equity
and
policing.
I'm
not
sure
if
rachel
got
through.
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
rachel
did
I'm
sorry
her
items.
You
didn't
go
we're
back
to
you!
I'm
sorry.
B
We
had
one
other
item
that
you
asked
us
to
address,
which
was
the
water
assist
program,
we're
happy
to
talk
about
that
next
week
in
terms
in
the
context
of
the
budget
amendment
if
you'd
prefer
and
the
only
other
thing
I
was
going
to
mention
aside
from
housing
stability
which
I'll
skip
for
time
is
the
the
launch
of
the
rose
park,
connect
digital
equity
efforts
to
that
we've
launched
in
rose
park
and
the
impending
additional
wi-fi
service
that
we'll
see
at
the
sorensen
unity
center
next
week
for
the
public
to
be
able
to
access
wi-fi
and
public
locations,
including
you
know,
computers
and
everything.
B
So
I
wanted
to
mention
those
two
programs,
but
I
won't
go
into
detail
just
to
save
time.
But
let
me
know
if
you
want
me
to
talk
about
water
assist
today.
A
And
if
we,
if
it
can't,
if
you
need
something
from
us
today,
then
let's
talk
about
it.
If
not,
we
can
wait
till
next
week,
just
because
we're
so
behind
already-
and
I
know,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
questions
on
the
other
items
as
well
and
just
to
remind
everybody
tonight
is
the
night
that
we
have
our
truth
and
taxation,
which
is
a
time
certain,
and
we
have
to
try
to
get
through
everything
before
we
get
to
that.
Otherwise
we
have
to
reconvene
after
okay.
A
A
All
right,
perfect!
Thank
you.
Okay,
let's
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
two,
which
is
updates
on
racial
equity
and
policing.
A
M
E
M
The
idea
here
is
to
review
the
current
ordinance
that
governs
the
police
civilian
review
board
and
for
the
council
to
consider
some
basic
ordinance
changes
that
might
help
move
things
in
the
direction
the
council
would
like
until
the
racial
equity
and
policing
commission
has
time
to
make
additional
recommendations,
so
the
ordinance
is
in
attachment
two
to
the
staff
report
now.
In
addition,
the
council
recently
requested
a
review
of
the
current
policy
and
procedures
manual
for
the
crb.
M
A
A
A
M
M
Then
each
crb
panel
decision
is
summarized
in
what's
called
a
majority
report,
and
this
report
is
forwarded
to
the
police
chief
with
recommendations
on
individual
cases.
It's
also
I'm
sorry.
The
majority
report
also
includes
any
suggestions
for
changes
in
department
practices
or
policies
that
may
may
arise
in
the
panel
discussions
from
the
review
of
a
particular
case.
M
Dissenting
crb
panel
members
may
write
and
submit
minority
reports
to
the
chief
as
well,
so
the
chief
is
presented
with
both
those
who
vote
in
favor
of
a
particular
case
and
those
who
may
vote
against
whatever
the
recommendations
are.
The
police
chief
then
considers
the
majority
in
minority
reports
before
making
a
disciplined
decision.
M
He
or
she
provides
a
written
report
of
case
disposition
to
the
crb,
and
if
the
board
disagrees,
they
can
communicate
that
to
the
chief
and
to
the
mayor.
In
writing.
The
last
thing
I'll
say
about
this
is
that
the
current
crb
structure
complies
with
state
law.
This
is
for
you,
lawyers,
utah
code,
10-3-9-12
and
10-3-10-12,
so
the
in
this
sense,
the
police
chief,
is
the
sole
authority
who
may
suspend
or
terminate
police
department
employees.
M
What
that
means
in
practice
is
that
the
most
the
board
can
do
is
make
a
recommendation
to
the
police
chief.
That's
state
law,
not
city
code,
and
second,
you.
You
probably
remember
that
last
year,
in
2019
there
was
house
bill
415,
which
was
called
local
law
enforcement
structure
and
governance
amendment.
M
A
Not
for
me
well
allison,
you
said
that
they
can
ask
for
witnesses
and
the
witnesses
have
to
participate.
What
is
it
that
requires
those
witnesses
to
participate?
It's
not
a
subpoena.
D
So
hello,
council,
members,
nice
to
see
you
today,
the
ordinance
actually
does
have
a
subpoena
power
in
it.
If
the
witnesses
do
not
cooperate,
so
that's
sort
of
an
interesting
nuance
of
it.
So
there
there
is
that
authority
in
it.
A
So
in
previous
meetings,
when
we've
met
with
people
about
the
police,
civilian
review
board,
we've
said
that
it's
not
possible
for
them
to
issue
a
subpoena.
M
D
So
the
specific
ordinance
language
says
that
if
the
administrator
desires
to
interview
a
witness
or
a
police
officer
in
connection
with
an
open
internal
affairs
investigation
and
if
such
person
declines
to
be
interviewed,
the
administrator
may
ask
the
mayor
to
compel
the
witness
or
police
officer
to
meet
with
and
be
interviewed
by.
The
administrator
pursuant
to
2.59
of
city
code,
which
is
actually
the
city
subpoena
authority
that
both
the
executive
branch
and
the
legislative
branch
have.
E
D
N
The
board
at
this
point
in
the
case
would
not
be
able
to
provide
any
guidance
as
to
who
to
request
because
they're
until
they
get
presented
the
case
itself,
they
are
not
aware
of
possible
witnesses
that
could
be
of
value.
N
However,
once
we
have
the
panel
with
the
five
members,
if
they
felt
that
there
was
another
witness
available
or
someone
that
should
have
been
spoken
to,
they
can
certainly
make
that
request.
We'll
told
the
panel
I'll
ask
the
police
department
to
make
the
employee
present
and
then
we'll
continue
on
so
it
hasn't
occurred
to
date,
but
the
mechanism
is
in
place.
A
Okay,
and-
and
it
can
only
be
employed,
is
of
the
city-
is
that
right.
N
Only
city
employees,
okay-
well,
I
will
say
that
in
the
course
of
doing
these
investigations,
there
have
been
occasions
when
a
citizen
witness
came
to
my
attention.
I
simply
asked
the
police
department,
they
contacted
the
citizen
and,
as
you
all
know,
any
citizen's
participation
is
voluntary,
but
in
a
limited
number
of
times
I've
done
that
the
citizens
always
cooperated.
D
I
I'd
just
like
to
jump
in
here
because,
as
I
read
the
ordinance
it's
more
than
city
employees,
who
can
be
subpoenaed,
it
is
employees
and
witnesses.
Now
again,
I
don't
think
that
this
is
a
tool
that
we
use
very
often,
and
certainly
it
doesn't
sound
like
it's
been
used
in
the
civilian
review
review
board
context,
but
the
ordinance
seems
to
apply
to
more
than
city.
A
Well,
I
mean
this
is
good
to
know
it's
not
the
same
information
that
we
gave
to
citizen
groups
when
they
came
to
us
last
year
and
asked
us
about
making
these
changes.
We
said
that
we
can't
issue
subpoenas
and
that
that
only
the
state
legislature
could
make
it
so
that
they
could
issue
subpoenas,
and
then
we've
been
criticized
for
not
having
an
ordinance
that
allows
us
to
issue
subpoenas
and
if
we
could
issue
them
the
whole
time
it
seems
like
we
could.
A
We
could
be
spending
that
energy
and
effort
informing
the
public
that
that
that
that
demand
is
already
exists
under
law
rather
than
arguing
with
them
about
it.
A
Are
there
do
people
have
other
questions
about
the
ordinance
and
about
changes
that
we
can
make?
I
mean
that
was
one
of
the
areas
where
I
wanted
to
push
forward
and
try
to
move
our
ordinance
ahead,
but
I
guess
I'm
glad
to
hear
it's
already
there,
if
not
a
little
bit
frustrated
about
how
we
got
there,
but
go
ahead.
Councilmember
johnston.
G
I
hear
what
you're
saying
about
what
the
ordinance
says
but
operationally.
How
often
does
the
the
board
actually
bring
witnesses
in
front
of
them
rather
than
read
internal
affairs
reports
or
your
report?
Mr
rasmussen,.
N
L
G
How
often
do
they
check
evidence
itself
sort
of
the
process
itself?
I
think
they're
encouraged
to
do
the
full
investigation
as
a
reward,
but
obviously
it's
unwieldy.
A
board
can't
do
a
full
investigation.
It's
just
functionally
can't
do
that
very
well,
but
how
often
do
they
actually
get
into
the
details
of
cases
with
actual
evidence
and
those
kind
of
things?
Can
you
give
me
a
sense
of
operation
how
that
works.
N
Yeah,
virtually
every
time
on
a
on
a
case
of
force,
they'll
view
the
body,
camera
footage
and
any
other
evidence
photographs.
I
can
think
of
a
number
of
cases
where
photographs
of
the
actual
scene
were
viewed.
Body
cameras
are
routinely
viewed.
Sometimes
the
body
camera
footage
has
already
appeared
on
tv
combined
with
the
report.
That's
prepared
for
them.
N
They
don't
ask
to
look
at
it
again.
They
don't
they
don't
ask
to
look
at
additional
information,
so
it
it
happens
every
case
to
some
degree
or
another.
It's
always
available.
I've
never
told
them.
No,
I
don't
believe
my
predecessors
ever
told
them.
No.
I
can't
find
any
example
thereof.
D
And
just
to
sort
of
put
a
finer
point
on
that
and
clarify,
although
the
administrator
typically
does
the
interviews
and
takes
in
the
evidence,
just
as
rick
pointed
out
other
than
the
fact
that
it
might
be
unwieldy.
As
you
mentioned
council
member
johnston,
there
is
no
prohibition
on
the
board
members
participating
in
the
interviews
or
doing
the
interviews
or
you
know,
having
a
a
different
role.
A
Yeah,
well,
I
think
councilmember
rogers
was
in
front
of
you,
but
is
it
a
follow-up
question
to
what
we're
on
right
now?
Okay,
go
ahead,
councilman
fowler.
N
H
So
I
smile
because
I
think
making
an
assumption
that
people
read
the
things
that
they
get
involved
in
is
quite
a
heavy
assumption,
and
I'm
wondering
if
on
two
things,
that
if
we
do
a
training
for
crpb
board
members,
if
we
inform
them
formally
that
they
what
their
rights
as
a
board
member
are
besides
just
giving
them
the
ordinance
and
having
them
read
through
it
themselves.
H
And
I
guess
those
are
the
only
two
things
I
was
thinking
about,
and
then
I
say
this
because
having
a
friend
on
the
board,
he
has
no
idea
he's
a
lawyer.
We
expect
lawyers
to
read
things,
but
we
don't
all
have
time
to
do
that,
and
this
is
a
volunteer
position
that
people
are
engaging
in
and
and
so
the
fact
simply
that
nobody's
ever
requested
it
before
doesn't
mean
that
somebody
hasn't
thought
to
request.
It
just
didn't
know
that
they
could
or
couldn't.
A
Well,
I'd
say,
or
I
mean
they
maybe
have
read
it,
but
they
didn't
understand
the
extent
to
which
they
could
enforce
it.
Okay,
I'm
sorry
did
was
it
councilman
rogers
that
had
his
hand
up
or
was
it
councilmember
dugan.
E
E
And
if
we
increase
in
seven
days,
would
people
be
more
willing
to
submit
a
a
complaint
and
is
that
do
we
need
to
change
that
from
four
days
to
more
than
four
days.
N
I
I
think
the
suggestion
on
four
days
is
a
wise
one
to
change,
but
in
reality,
if
you
complain
we're
gonna
open
the
case,
the
ordinance
mandates
that
the
city
ia
has
to
open
the
case
before
we
can
get
involved.
But
we've
had
cases
that
have
dated
back
over
a
year
that
have
come
forth.
N
E
I
bring
that
up
because
you
know
it
probably
there's
probably
people
who
say:
oh
it's
after
four
days
and
they
get
the
advice
that
they're
gonna
click
they're,
not
gonna,
accept
it
so
don't
submit
it
so
they
don't
submit
it
almost
it's
like
council
member
fowler's
point
of.
If
they
don't
know
it,
then
they're
not
gonna,
ask
it
so
in
this
case,
it'd
be
probably
wise
to
maybe
increase
it.
So
people
know
that
that
they
they
have
that
opportunity
right
away.
E
Instead
of
they
know,
you
only
get
four
days
and
you're
at
hour
100
and
not
96..
N
The
way
I
look
at
the
ordinance
is
they
may
be
limited
on
the
ordinance
for
four
days.
But
if
the
request
goes
through
internal
affairs,
then
we
automatically
can
adopt
the
case
as
it
comes
from
internal
affairs
within
that
four
day
window
I
know,
maybe
I'm
cutting
the
words
real
fine,
but
that's
the
way
we've
interpreted
it.
So
we've
never
turned
away
a
case
for
a
time
frame,
violation.
A
Okay,
can
I
have
a
question
about
you
brought
up
the
sorry
sam
cindy?
Did
you
have
your
hand
up.
J
J
So
the
fact
that
I
mean
there
are
people
who
are
not
getting
as
far
as
a
conversation
with
the
civilian
review
board,
because
they're
reading
the
information
and
then
they
have
at
different
times
complained
to
us
and
we've
referred
them
on,
but
so
so
I
think
it
is
an
issue,
even
though
they
would
accept
beyond
that.
J
The
other
thing
I'm
maybe
the
council
would
want
to
ask
is
if,
if
there's
any
limitation
on
the
timing
for
for
a
person
complaining
to
file
with
internal
affairs,
because
if
there
is
then
that's
a
another
issue
in
my.
N
Experience,
there's
no
time
frame
wherein
internal
affairs
will
deny
their
investigating
their
day.
Like
I
said,
I've
seen
a
couple
that
were
years
old,
it
just
came
in
like
they've,
never
once
been
the
best
of
my
knowledge
denied
by
ia,
which
automatically
triggers
it
coming
to
me.
So
I
can
accept
it
within
that
four
day
window.
A
We
mentioned
to
the
panels.
Is
there
a
reason
why
we
do
the
panels
instead
of
having
the
full
review
of
the
board.
D
And
council
chair
I'll
jump
in,
and
I
I
talked
to
one
of
our
lawyers
who
has
worked
on
the
crb
since
it
first
started
in
his
pers,
was
when
back
in
the
90s,
when
the
crb
was
changed
to
more
of
an
investigative
board
and
not
just
an
auditing
board.
D
There
was
a
determination
over
time
by
the
the
council
in
the
ordinance
that
a
14-member
board
for
investigations
was
too
large.
I
don't
know
if
that's
true
cindy
or
if
you
have
any
thoughts
on
that,
but
it's
an
ordinance-based
requirement
that
the
that
there
are
the
panels,
and
so
I
think
that
that's
an
opportunity
for
the
council
to
consider
whether
maybe
that's
not
the
policy
direction
that
you
would
prefer
anymore
and
instead
an
investigative
group
could
be
a
quorum
of
the
entire
14
or
a
quorum
of.
However,
many
currently
appointed
board
members.
There
are.
D
D
D
So
the
council
made
the
decision
that,
even
though
the
panels
are
less
than
a
quorum,
they
are
subject
to
the
open
meetings
act.
What
that
does,
of
course,
is
make
it
difficult
for
the
full
board
to
know
what
each
investigation
is,
and
so
that
may
be
a
reason
for
the
the
council
to
consider
reevaluating
that
provision.
A
So
what
what
is
the
legal
authority
that
said
that
we
can't
have
or
the
persuasive
authority
that
says
that
14
is
too
many
for
an
investigative
board
like
what's
that
based
on?
Is
that,
like
a
theory
or
is
there
a
case.
H
H
I
mean
for
some
again
this
is
a
volunteer
position
and
if
I
think
that
there
is
room
and
I'd
love
to
maybe
discuss
this
further
to
say
on
incidences
involving
officer
officer
involved,
critical
incidences
or
use
of
deadly
force,
we
would
want
all
14,
but
maybe
on
other
complaints.
We
change
it
to
something
a
little
smaller
so
that
we're
not
burdening
too
much
volunteers
who
are
already
giving
up
their
time.
H
For
this
I
mean
I
agree,
three
seems
a
little
a
little
too
little,
but
14
for
all
of
the
complaints
may
seem
a
little
too
much
and
I
think
there's
it
to
me.
I
look
at
it
the
way
we
do
jury
trials.
You
know
you
have
a
misdemeanor
trial,
you
get
four
jurors,
you
get
up,
you
get
agers,
you
get
more
right
and
you
kind
of
level
it
out
based
on
what
the
complaint
is,
because
these
are
volunteer
positions
that
we're
asking
people
to
give
their
time
to.
H
I
think
it's
an
important
question
and
an
important
policy
to
address
for
sure
I
just
those
are
my
two
cents.
A
But
we
created
a
one
that
that
where
we
have
representatives
from
around
the
city,
so
if,
if
having
representation
from
around
the
city
is
important,
then
shouldn't?
If
we
have
a
panel,
I
would
suggest
I
would
submit
that
it
needs
to
have
at
least
the
panel
should
have
at
least
seven
and
have
one
from
every
district.
G
I
think
that
I'd
look
for
some
feedback
on
that,
because
I
don't
know
the
volume
board's
having
to
deal
with.
I
don't
know
the
feasibility
of
getting
seven
people
together
for
meetings
in
this
format
might
be
somewhat
easier,
but
in
person
it's
difficult,
I
don't
know
about
their
meeting
space.
Frankly,
I
think
that's
a
question
in
my
head
as
well
about
do.
They
have
the
infrastructure
to
do
those
kind
of
things.
Can
they
get
through
the
work?
I'm
just
not
sure,
I'm
in
a
place
to
say
seven
is
the
right
amount.
G
Nine
five,
especially
as
represent
as
councilmember
fowler,
said
that
we're
trying
to
balance
their
workload
as
well.
This
is
an
off-hour
thing,
so
I'd
look
to
mr
rasmussen
to
other
folks,
maybe
even
outside
of
the
city,
to
get
a
sense
of
what's
feasible
in
these.
A
N
N
The
issue
on
the
population
of
the
panel
is
best
illustrated
by
attendance
at
the
quarterly
meeting,
which
clearly
we
do
four
times
a
year,
we're
lucky
to
get
a
quorum
at
the
quarterly
meeting.
I
mean
we're
lucky
to
get
seven
or
eight
at
the
quarterly
meeting
panels.
Oftentimes
I've
had
to
go
through
every
board
member
to
get
five,
because
we
won't
proceed
on
officer-involved,
shooting
critical
incidents
as
councilwoman
follower.
N
Appropriate
I've
had
to
go
through
everybody,
because
they're
either
conflicted
out
with
knowledge
of
an
individual
or
they're
conflicted
out
with
a
work
life
conflict.
So
I
mean
we
are
very
lucky.
We've
been
very
good
in
that
on
every
officer
involved,
shooting
the
best
of
my
knowledge.
We've
had
at
least
we've
had
five,
some
of
the
other
cases
that
are
not
officer-involved,
shooting
type
of
cases
we
have.
I
think
in
12
years
had
as
few
as
three
it's
pretty
rare.
The
most
common
number
we
get
when
we
don't
get.
A
E
H
Sort
of
I
don't
know
if
this
is
just
for
me
or
would
it
be
possible?
I
think
this
is
obviously
an
ongoing
conversation,
but
first
I
want
to
say
allison.
I
really
appreciate
your
follow-up.
My
follow-up
memo
laid
out
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
I
think
I
had
and
probably
did
not
articulate
well,
but
somehow
you
parsed
it
into
something
that
was
legible
and
created
some
responses
and
some
questions
that
that
I
have
for
that.
H
So
there's
a
lot
there
in
that
memo
that
I
think,
needs
some
further
follow-up
information
too
that
we
can't,
I
don't
believe
we
can
answer
in
a
40-minute
50-minute
conversation
right
now.
I'm
also
curious
with
that,
if
possible,
that
we
could
reach
out
to
some
of
the
board
members
and
have
maybe
some
small
group
meetings
or
meeting
with
some
of
them
about
the
process
that
they
see
and
what
they're
going
through
again
I
I've
mentioned
my
friend
most
of
the
people
on
our
council
were
there
when
we
had
his
advice
and
consent.
H
He's
a
criminal
defense
attorney
worked
as
a
public
defender,
good
friend
of
mine
and
and
he's
frustrated
with
the
board,
and
I
wonder
if
other
board
members
may
feel
some
frustration
or
feel
lack
of
responsibility
or
what
that
is,
and
if
perhaps
I
could
ask
staff
or
administration
or
all
of
us
involved
to
see.
If,
if
board
members
would
be
willing
to
meet
with
some
of
us
to
flesh
out
what
some
of
those
concerns
are,
so
that
we're
not
just
stabbing
in
the
dark
of
what
we've
heard
anecdotally,
but
maybe
from
the
horse's
mouth.
H
If
you
will
on
some
of
the
frustrations
that
they're
feeling
to
better
to
jump.
Mr
mister
council,
member
johnston's
point,
we're
not
just
saying
oh
five
seems
good
and
nine
seems
great,
and
then
you
know
rick
saying
I
can't
even
get
three
to
show
up
like.
Why
is
that?
What
what
can
we
do
to
support
that
board
a
little
more
and
then
create
these
changes
that
have
the
more
teeth
that
we
want
them
to.
A
Have
and
yeah
I
I
totally
agree.
I
think
we
could
look
at
at
a
stipend
for
board
members
or
we
could
you
know
we
may
need
to
be
more
explicit
during
the
application
process
about
what
the
time
expectations
are,
but
yeah
I'm
interested
in
in
also
talking
with
some
board
members
and
seeing
just
kind
of
what
their
thoughts
are.
So
I
would
support
that
too.
Go
ahead.
Councilmember
johnston.
G
Another
question
on
a
different
subject:
mr
chair:
I'm
not
aware
of
of
any
restrictions
on
board
membership
as
far
as
who's
nominated
and
sort
of
placed
in
the
board
other
than
adults
resident
city,
the
districts
that
sort
of
thing,
but
I
do
not
that
there
have
been
folks
who
have
been
ruled
out
based
on
their
criminal
histories,
is
that
in
statute?
Is
that
tradition?
D
D
There
is
a
tie
to
a
requirement
in
city
code
to
serve
on
the
board
that
the
individuals
have
to
do
a
ride-along
with
the
police,
so
that
may
have
been
a
reason
why
there
was
a
prohibition
if
an
individual
had
a
felony
conviction,
but
it's
certainly
something
that
we
could
look
at.
If
that
is
a
bar
to
participation
for
our
residents.
G
I
would
I'm
not
advocating
for
a
blanket
sort
of
openness
for
everything
I
think,
there's
a
big
difference
between
different
types
of
felonies
and
timing
and
context
in
people's
lives.
I
worry
that
we
are
excluding
a
large
segment
of
the
population
who
could
have
very
good
insights
into
some
issues.
We're
talking
about
so
I'd
like
to
visit
that
if
we
could
as
well.
A
Okay,
council
members,
any
other
questions
for
either
the
attorneys
or
for
allison
or
mr
rasmussen
on
any
of
these
issues.
J
Okay,
if
you
don't
have
a
council
member
just
I
wonder
if
it
sounds
like
you
do
want
to
gather
more
information
about
this,
but
I
know
that
you
are
also
very
anxious
to
get
some
progress
on
these
issues,
and
so
I
there
might
be
some
low
low-hanging
fruit
here
that
we
could
work
with
the
attorney's
office
on
to
bring
an
ordinance
to
you
to
address
those
basics.
J
A
I'm
I
would,
I
would
support
that.
I
I
don't
know
where
everybody
else
is,
but
I'm
getting
just
a
lot
of
feedback
from
residents
wanting
to
know
about
the
changes
that
the
council
talked
about
doing
back
in
june,
and
I
know
that
it's
there
everybody's
under
a
lot
of
stress
and
that
there's
a
lot
going
on
in
the
summer.
But
I
I
would
really
like
to
be
able
to
move
forward
on
some
things.
A
H
Thank
you.
I
agree
in
the
sense
that
I
think
there
is
some
low-hanging
fruit
here
that
we
can
change
immediately.
I
don't,
however,
want
us
to
lose
sight
of
the
mid-term
and
long-term
changes
that
we've
also
promised
that
we
would
make
so
I
think,
I'm
in
support
of
sort
of
an
incremental,
and
I
hate
using
that
word.
So
don't
ever,
let
me
do
it
again,
but
an
immediate
change
to
some
of
the
things
that
I
think
that
we
can
look
at,
for
example,
the
citizens
versus
residence
example
right.
M
I
was
just
gonna
ask
if
you'd
like
me
to
to
summarize,
but
it
sounds
like.
M
So
what
I
heard
was,
first
of
all,
the
clarification
on
subpoena
powers
that,
in
fact,
subpoena
powers
can
be
used
against
other
members
of
the
public,
rather
than
only
on
city
employees.
M
M
And
so
that
they
know
their
rights
as
board
members.
Three,
it
looks
like
there's
interest
in
increasing
the
ordinance
that
requires
four
days
for
a
person
to
report
between
the
time
they
report
to
the
infra
internal
affairs
of
the
police
department
and
to
the
crv.
M
There
was
discussion
on
on
why
on
whether
the
crb
should
continue
to
have
panels
rather
than
a
full
board
the
discussion?
Well,
the
clarification
was
that
the
council
has
an
opportunity
to
change
this
if
they
like,
because
the
city
attorney
doesn't
see
a
legal
reason
for
this
restriction.
M
Councilmember
fowler
suggested
that
incidents
involving
officer
involved,
critical
incidents
or
deadly
force
could
be
used
for
or
may
need
all
14
members,
but
that
in
other
cases
a
smaller
panel
might
be
possible
and
that
links
to
the
question
of
whether
who
should
be
on
those
panels,
whether
it
should
be
a
member
of
each
district
or
whether
there's
some
other
way
to
do
it,
and
the
discussion
included
the
the
history
of
having
difficulty
of
getting
quorums
at
the
crb
quarterly
meetings
and
even
in
five
member
panels.
M
Councilmember
fowler
also
requested
additional
follow-up
on
some
of
the
questions
that
were
raised
in
the
email
I
sent
out
yesterday,
and
I
can
work
on
that.
Obviously,
in
coordination
with
the
attorneys,
and
also
requested
small
group
meetings
with
board
members
to
try
to
get
a
sense
of
what
their
expectations
are,
where
they
may
find
frustrations
in
their
roles
and
whether
they,
whether
a
stipend
or
other
sorts
of
clarification
of
expectations,
may
be
more
useful.
M
Councilmember
johnston
mentioned
interest
in
reviewing
the
prohibition
on
having
a
criminal
record.
This
is
on
felonies
and
violent
misdemeanors,
also
moral
turpitude,
which
I
just
want
to
add
because
I
love
to
say
turpitude
and
finally,
the
question
is
whether
the
council
would
like
staff
to
work
with
the
attorneys
in
the
short
run,
to
try
to
get
some
of
these
small
changes.
Easier
changes
made
with
the
longer
term,
but
with
it
with
or
keeping
in
mind
that
longer
term
issues.
J
A
Okay,
council
members,
we're
going
to
move
to
item
number
three,
which
is
dockless
shared
mobility
devices,
follow-up
briefing
and
I,
let's
see
with
us,
we
have
sam
owen
from
the
council
office
john
larson
transportation,
director
jen
mcgrath,
can
deputy
director
lisa
mccarver,
director
of
revenue
and
collections
and
jason
oldroy
senior
city
attorney,
and
I'm
going
to
turn
this
over
to
mr
vice
chair
to
take
us
through
this
item.
A
E
Thank
you,
mr
weister.
Mr
chairperson
council
members
will
receive
the
third
briefing
of
this
year
on
the
docker
mobility
ordinance
or
the
ordinance
that
would
outline
the
city's
role
in
regulating
foreign
devices
and
other
devices
like
electric
scooters.
Previous
briefings
have
focused
on
the
scope
and
structure
of
the
or
the
scope
and
structure
of
the
regulation
of
electric
scooters
and
other
devices.
Moving
ahead.
Council
members
have
conveyed
sentiment,
indicating
some
reluctance
to
delegate
to
the
administration
some
of
the
more
technically
specific
aspects
of
what
the
ordinance
could
do.
E
G
Is
there
anything
else
from
from
mr
larson
or
other
members
here
before
we
go
to
questions
or
input.
O
Yeah
so
I
had
a,
I
was
asked
to
prepare
a
presentation.
I
don't
know
if
that's
if
I
should
share
my
screen
or
had
been
shared
previously.
O
Let's
move
to
the
next
slide
on
just
quick
timeline.
So
two
years
ago
the
first
scooters
launched
in
salt
lake
city,
we
created
a
temporary
operating
agreement
for
development
program
until
the
ordinance
is
in
place.
We
are
still
in
the
the
pilot
phase
so
between
in
the
last
two
years
we
have
learned
quite
a
bit.
We've
had
several
opportunities
for
public
engagement
and
feedback.
O
O
The
state
path,
legislation
regarding
scooters
by
this
point.
Last
year
we
had
five
operators
provide
vendors
in
operation
in
the
city.
O
We
provided
a
draft
ordinance
last
fall
to
city
council
and
we're
able
to
get
really
good
feedback
on
that,
as
well
as
there's
an
opportunity
for
public
feedback.
That
was
a
dot
that
we
incorporated.
That
feedback
provided
an
updated
ordinance
right
before
you
know
the
world
changed
beneath
our
feet,
so
that's
slowed
things
down
a
little
bit,
but
here
we
are
ready,
hopefully
soon
for
adoption
of
the
ordinance
and
then
separately
also
adoption
of
some
fees,
currently
we've
been
all
amen
of
the
scooter-related
issues.
O
On
top
of
other.
You
know
our
regular
duties
without
any
additional
resources.
O
So
the
the
next
steps,
after
ordinance
adoption
would
be
to
kick
off
the
a
competitive
process.
This
would
be
a
request
for
proposals,
an
rfp
process
that
would
limit
up
to
two
vendors,
with
the
option
of
only
one.
O
If
that
ends
up
being
the
most
advantageous
option
for
the
the
city
of
a
fee
structure,
an
amount
entering
into
contract
with
the
the
vendors,
we
would
be
making
an
ask
for
resources
to
run
the
program
that
would
be
in
line
with
the
amount
of
fees
that
have
been
brought
in,
develop
performance,
monitoring
reporting.
We
can
make
sure
that
we
are
transparent
and
have
accountability
and
then
continue
to
listen,
observe
and
adapt
next
slide.
O
We
talked
about
fees,
so
we've
looked
at
different
fees,
structure,
different
ways
to
structure
this.
The
simplest
thing
would
be
a
flat
up
front
fee.
There's
some
simplicity
in
it.
There's
some
certainty
about
the
fee.
The
vendors
have
been
pretty
pretty
open
about
the
the
fact
that
they
they
don't
really
like
this.
This
option,
there's
the
pride
fee,
which
would
be
where
you'd
have
little
or
no
up
front,
must
be
a
per
ride
fee.
O
So
that's
kind
of
I
guess
more
of
a
pay
as
you
go
sort
of
sort
of
option
and
then
there's
a
hybrid,
which
is
what
we
would
recommend
in
which
we've
heard
positive
feedback
from
vendors
about
this,
which
is
where
you'd
have
a
a
smaller
upfront
fee,
combined
with
a
per
ride
fee.
O
So
the
the
here
is
to
get
a
fee
structure
that
works
for
the
city,
but
would
not
scare
you
know
the
good
vendors
away
so
the
as
far
as
the
resources
that
would
be
needed
by
the
administration
to
be
able
to
meet
the
expectations
or
a
successful
scooter
program
would
probably
be
in
the
range
of
150
200
000
a
year.
O
Between
all
all
vendors,
whether
that's
one
or
two
vendors,
the
total
would
need
to
be
probably
in
that
range,
and
so
you
know
there's
you
could
do
that
within
the
hybrid
option.
You
could,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
different
numbers
to
to
get
there.
O
So
what
would
be
helpful
for
us
is
to
get
feedback
from
council
on
where
you
feel
comfortable
setting
the
fee,
and
then
we
could
come
back
with
some
some
ideas
or
options
on
how
you
could
how
you
could
get
there
and
then
the
next
slide.
We've
had
some
questions
about
accountability.
O
How
do
we
make
sure
that
there's
accountability
on
you
know
as
much
as
possible
placed
on
the
the
vendors
having
a
competitive
process
with
limited
licenses
right
up
front?
That
creates
you
know
the
competition,
creates
some
accountability
and
helps
us
pick
the
the
best
vendors
that
suit
our
needs
performance
monitoring
an
annual
renewal
of
the
contract.
So
even
if
it's
you
know
so,
the
rfp
potentially
would
be
set
up
to
be
every
two
years,
but
with
an
annual
renewal.
O
So
if
we
could
just
not
renew
also
the
ability
to
revoke
contract,
if
there's
egregious
issues,
this
is
a
challenging
option.
As
you
know,
things
like
fines
and
impounding,
and
this
last
one
is
probably
the
easiest
and
most
effective
tool
that
we
have
at
our
disposal
combined
with
performance
monitoring
would
be
incentives,
and
this
is
something
that
we
would
build
into
the
contracting.
O
So
you
know
look
at
the
most
profitable
areas
and
we
can
adjust
the
cap
of
like
how
many
scooters
can
be
deployed
in
those
areas
based
on
performance.
So
you
know
basically
rewarding
the
the
vendors
for
for
good
performance
and
then
one
last
slide
on
staffing
needs.
So
this
is
something
that
we'll
be
coming
back
later.
The
the
fees
are
in
place
to
make
a
request
or
for
resource
to
to
be
able
to
the
scooter
program.
O
I'm
not
gonna
read
through
the
the
entire
bullet
list,
but
the
you
know
the
point
of
putting
this
up.
There
is
just
to
show
all
of
the
things
that
you
know
that
staff
would
be
doing
if
we
were,
you
know
if
we
had
the
resources,
so
these
are
things
that
either
are
not
happening
or
not
happening.
O
Well,
simply
because
we
we
don't,
have
we
just
don't
have
the
staff,
so
were
we
doing
all
of
this
right
now
we
would
have
to
divert
resources
from
other
key
city
initiatives.
O
So,
having
you
know,
one,
an
entry-level
staff
person
dedicated
to
new
mobility
issues
would
make
a
world
of
difference
in
being
able
to
to
manage
all
of
these
these
issues
so
director.
That's
all
that
I
have.
G
Okay,
we're
going
to
jump
in
too
quick.
We
have
literally
a
minute
left
in
our
a
lot
of
times
since
we're
behind
this
was
scheduled
to
be
our
last
briefing
on
this
with
public
comment
coming
in
september,
your
council
members
have
questions
right
now
we
need
to
answer,
or
we
need
to
revisit
this
before
the
public
hearings.
H
I
don't
think
I
have
any
questions
right
now.
The
fee
schedule
is
still
something
that
I
think
is
a
little
concerning,
but
I
think
if
we
were
to
maybe
here
I
know
we
have
public
hearings
scheduled.
H
I
just
it
sounds
to
me,
like
we
haven't
nailed
down
what
the
what
the
fee
schedule
is
and
I'm
happy
to
just
reach
out
to
john
and
maybe
set
up
a
small
group.
But
that's
that's
really
at
this
point.
My
only
concern-
and
I
don't
think
we
need
to
address
it
now
since
we're
long
time
but
maybe
offline.
We
can
talk
about
that.
G
I
I
would
agree
with
you
myself.
I
I
think
it's
just
the
one
issue
that
I'm
still
got
some
clarification
on.
So
I
agree.
Other
council
members,
council
member
morris.
C
I
just
have
three
questions
on
on.
Would
you
call
it
on
clarifications
and
again
this
could
be
in
an
email,
so
I
went
through
the
ordinance
and
I
couldn't
see
if
we
ended
up
adding
the
slowing
down
in
certain
areas
like
the
automatic
slowing
down
of
these
scooters
in
certain
areas
of
town.
If
there
were
going
to
require
that
we
haven't
this,
it's
not
clear.
C
If
how
many
violations
will
you
know,
will
a
scooter
company
have
to
have
in
order
for
us
to
end
their
contract
and
then
hire
somebody
else
since
they're,
not
following
all
of
their
requirements
that
we
have
and
then
our
question
is
who
ends
up
if
we're
doing
the,
if
there's
a
violation
and
then
we
charge
them
a
fee
for
the
violation
who
ends
up
paying
it?
Is
it
the
company
or
the
actual
writer?
C
E
Well,
we
certainly
have
additional
telegraph
meetings
offline
or
answer
any
questions
via
email.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
think
would
be
helpful
for
us
to
get
some
direction
from
council.
We've
done
a
fee.
E
Fees
in
the
several
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars,
john,
has
done
an
analysis
to
say
at
bare
minimum.
You
know
for
us
to
meet
basic
requirements
and
operate
this
program.
We
need
to
be
somewhere
in
the
150
to
200.
000
a
year
range
to
get
a
sense
from
council
about
where
you
want
to
be
in
a
number
and
then
also
to
understand,
philosophically
how
you
want
to
get
there.
So
you
know,
is
it?
Is
it
an
upfront
fee?
Is
it
parity?
E
Do
you
want
a
hybrid
approach?
I
think
some
general
direction
about
those
things
once
we
know
that
from
you,
we
can
provide
you
with
any
information.
You
need
down
to
the
penny
if
you
want,
but
understanding
where
the
council
members
are
are
coming
from
is
going
to
help
us
narrow
that
more
for
you
and
again,
we
can
talk
about
all
this
offline
anytime.
You
want.
G
So,
council
members
immediately:
are
there
strong
feelings
about
the
fee
thing
you
put
it
before
about
up
front
lengthy
per
ride
or
a
hybrid
and
councilmember
fowler.
H
Yeah,
I
think
that,
for
me
it
would
be
a
lower
upfront
fee
with
a
per
ride
fee.
I
think
the
75
000
per
company
that
comes
in
seems
cost
prohibitive
for
anybody
coming
in
yet
to
john's
point.
We
don't
want
every
necessarily
want
everyone
coming
in
because
they
can
right.
So
you
know
I
don't
want
not
great
product,
but
I
don't
want
to
cost,
prohibit
it
be
cost
prohibitive
to
the
good
product
right
and
so
somewhere
in
between
would
be
where
I
personally
am
coming
from.
I
don't
exactly
know
what
that
looks
like.
G
The
other
council
members
feel
similar
there's.
G
I
No,
I
don't
disagree
with
it.
I
agree
with
councilmember
fowler
and
I'm
actually
I'd
be
in
favor
of
a
per
ride
approach
as
well.
Looking
at
the
fee
structure
with
that,
so
my
question
would
be
what
type
of
vendors,
for
example,
with
food
at
golf
courses
or
food,
vendors
and
elsewhere
at
the
galvan.
Do
we
require
an
upfront
cost
like
this.
G
Maybe
we
can
get
that
answer
as
part
of
our
responses
to
the
questions
today.
Is
that
all
right?
Okay,
other
council
members,
other
things
immediately
or
let's
set
up
some
small
group
meetings?
It
sounds
like
from
jen
mcgrath's
question
that
I
would
agree
with
councilmember
flower
about
a
hybrid
approach,
particularly
the
first
year,
where
we
get
a
sense
of
what
the
actual
numbers
will
be.
O
My
understanding
is
council
could
update
it
annually.
That's
part
of
the
schedule.
G
Okay,
let's,
let's
have
some
small
group
discussions
and
if
we
could
is
that
enough,
jen
mcgrath
to
start
with.
Okay.
Thank
you,
I'm
sorry
to
move
us
along
quickly,
but
we
got
many
other
things.
So
thank
you
all
very
much
transportation
and
sam.
G
Thank
you
very
much.
We
are
going
to
we're
going
to
come
back
for
a
moment
or
two
to
an
update
from,
I
believe
coletta
lynch
on
the
commission,
she's
been
patiently
waiting
for
us
and
then
afterwards
we
will
go
to
the
zoning
text
amendment
about
building
heights
so
coletta.
If
you're
on
the
line,
I'm
not
sure
even
any
other
staff
who
are
helping
with
this
is
that
russell,
I'm
not
sure.
P
Thank
you
all
so
much.
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
brief
update
on
the
racial
equity
and
policing
commission.
As
you
are
are
aware,
it
was
established
to
examine
the
current
policies,
programs,
culture
and
budget
of
the
salt
lake
city
police
department.
P
They
did
not
select
to
add
additional
elected
officials
because
they
believe
that
elected
officials
already
have
a
platform
to
address
the
issues
in
their
respective
roles
and
capacity.
They
want
to
ensure
that
their
commission
is
community,
centered
and
inclusive
of
those
who
reside
in
salt
lake
city.
They
also
want
to
make
sure
that
the
members
that
are
added
to
the
commission
are
from
diverse
communities,
backgrounds,
expertise
and
have
different
viewpoints
in
salt
lake
city
and
so
currently
the
com.
P
The
commission
has
added
additional
members
and
they
are
now
at
18.,
but
they
are
looking
to
add
one
additional
member
and
they're
currently
meeting
to
see
which
skills
and
expertise
are
missing
from
the
group
that
they
have
already
formed
based
on
the
outcome
of
their
discussions
over
the
next
week,
or
so
they
will
select
the
final
member
to
add
and
they
also
would
like
to
have
a
youth
subcommittee.
P
So
they
want
to
ensure
that
the
process
established
aligns
with
the
open
public
meetings
act.
It
allows
for
transparency
and
the
that
the
meetings
are
held
on
a
public
platform
on
which
all
can
join,
so
they
want
to
make
sure
that
there
are
no
barriers
for
access
for
any
members
of
the
public
who
would
like
to
join
the
meetings.
P
Also,
they
are
working
to
establish
designated
times
within
each
of
their
meetings
or
public
members
to
speak
and
in
addition
to
their
own
meetings
once
they
select
the
independent
facilitator,
they
will
schedule
additional
listening
sessions
so
that
the
public
can
come
and
speak
to
them
and
they
can
listen
to
their
feedback
to
incorporate
into
their
recommendations
back
to
the
mayor
and
to
you
all
and
then,
as
a
final
update,
the
rfp
facilitator
process
it
the
application
process
closed.
P
On
july,
the
15th
nine
applications
were
submitted
for
the
process,
and
the
review
committee
has
chosen
three
people
or
three
companies
to
move
forward
to
the
next
part
of
the
process,
and
so
just
so
you
all
are
aware.
The
rfp
facilitator
committee
consists
of
three
of
the
commission
members
and
the
mayor
and
councilwoman
valdemaros,
and
so
in
summary,
over
the
next
12
months,
the
commission
will
hold
community
listens.
Listening
sessions,
create
a
community
charter
that
advocates
for
community
members
and
sets
out
expectations
and
ground
rules
for
commission
processes.
P
They
will
explore
existing
slcpd
policies,
budget
and
community
programs
with
the
assistance
of
city
staff.
They
will
also
evaluate
national
best
practices
that
align
with
slcpd
policies
to
potentially
consider
new
policy
approaches
and
they
hope
to
make
a
final
recommendation
to
the
mayor
and
city
council
by
july
2021.
P
The
last
thing
that
I
want
to
point
out
is:
they
do
have
an
email
address
so
for
public
for
the
public,
if
you
would
like
to
email
them
or
provide
any
input
prior
to
public
meetings,
please
email
them
at
rep
commission
at
slcgov.com,
and
that
concludes
my
update
to
you
all.
Are
there
any
questions?
F
Thank
you
yeah.
I
appreciate
that
update.
I
had
a
question
regarding
the
budget
that
we
allocated
for
the
commission.
I
know
we
kind
of
just
guessed
at
a
number.
I
think
it
was
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
do
we
know
if
that's
sufficient
and
what
that
means
in
terms
of
compensation
for
the
board
members,
because
that's
something
that
was
important,
that
we're
not
asking
people
of
color
to
do
too
much
heavy
lifting
without
any
at
least
even
nominal
stuff
and
amount.
P
So
we
are
currently
meeting
with
council
staff
and
also
with
our
finance
department
and
the
mayor's
office
to
make
sure
to
see
whether
the
numbers
are
sufficient
now
or
whether
we
need
to
increase
those
we're
working
on
putting
together
a
formal
budget
that
has
line
items
which
will
show
you
all
where
the
funds
will
go
directly
and
we
hope
to
have
that
to
you
all
within
the
next
two
weeks
for
your
review
two
to
three
weeks.
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
have
a
definite
date
of
when
it
will
come
back,
but
we
are
working
on
it.
E
F
G
P
G
Much
you
as
well
all
right
council
members.
I
am
blowing
up
the
schedule
now
we
are
moving
on
to
item
number
four,
which
is
an
ordinance
for
zoning
text,
amendment
to
increase
building
height
limits
in
a
portion
of
the
gmu
zone
follow-up.
G
I
believe
we
will
have
russell
weeks
from
the
council
office
nick
norris
planning,
director
john
anderson
planning
manager,
jennifer
mcgrath
canned
deputy
director
and
megan
de
paulus
senior
city
attorney
on
this
briefing,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
and
as
we
are
over
time,
we're
probably
going
to
ask
you
to
cut
it
to
a
little
shorter
than
you
would
otherwise
so
maybe
10
to
15
minutes
if
possible.
L
Well,
mr
vice
chair,
this
is
the
council's
third
discussion
on
this
issue
and
one
of
the
petitioners.
The
petitioner's
representative,
doug
tim,
is
in
the
audience
and
may
be
available
to
answer
questions
if
council
members
have
them
of
the
petitioner.
This
discussion
is
about
two
draft
motions
that
the
council
has.
The
council
staff
has
prepared.
The
motions
are
based
on
the
council's
previous
discussion
on
april
21st.
L
The
first
motion
would
do
two
things
it
would.
It
would
adopt
the
language
presented
by
the
petitioner
in
a
proposed
ordinance
to
increase
building
heights
within
a
geographical
area
proposed
by
the
petitioner
and
it
would
it
would
amend
that
language
to
require
that
new
constructions
of
buildings
within
the
geographic
area
would
be
subject
to
design
review
and
design
review
standards
set
out
in
the
municipal
code.
L
The
second
motion
would
be
declare
the
council's
intent
to
to
ask
the
administration
to
initiate
a
study
of
building
heights
in
the
greater
downtown,
starting
with
station
center
and
north
temple
street
areas
followed
by
areas
identified
for
transit,
oriented
development
and
then
by
areas
that
make
up
the
greater
downtown
generally
defined
by
the
existing
d1
d2
d3.
D4
and
gmu
zoning
districts-
that's
the
sum
of
it.
Would
just
council
have
any
questions
of
staff
on
that
or
is
it
willing
to
carry
on
the
conversation.
G
The
council
members
we-
this
is
the
third
briefing
we
are
set
to
set
dates
for
public
hearings
tonight.
I
believe
and
take
some
action
after
those.
So
questions
from
the
council.
L
Okay,
here
we
go,
can.
G
We
get
actually
russell
is,
does
bobby
have
this
we
can
put
on
the
screen.
Perhaps.
G
L
And
while
you're
looking
for
that
I'll
I'll,
I
will
just
read
it
because
it
is
fairly
short.
It
declares
the
city
council's
intent
to
request
the
administration
to
initiate
a
study
of
building
heights
in
the
greater
downtown,
starting
with
the
station
center
and
north
temple
street
areas
followed
by
areas
identified
for
transit-oriented
development
and
then
by
areas
that
make
up
the
greater
downtown
generally
defined
by
the
existing
d1
d2
d3,
d4
and
gmu
zoning
districts.
L
And
that's
that's
the
crux
of
the
thing
there.
There
are
a
couple
of
elements.
There
are
four
elements
that
would
be
included
in
the
motion.
G
Council
members,
so
I
got
some
thumbs
up
from
councilman
fowler.
F
J
I
think
you're
going
to
have
a
hearing
on
this.
Aren't
they
russell.
L
Q
One
reason
that
it
might
be
helpful
is
that
the
attorney's
office
hasn't
drafted
an
ordinance
because
it
got
a
negative
recommendation
from
the
planning
commission,
and
so
if
we
just
had
an
indication
that
you
were
looking
positively
towards
that,
we
could
ask
the
attorney's
office
to
draft
that
ordinance.
For
you.
G
Council
members
still
feel
comfortable
with
this.
If,
if
you
do
put
forward
someone
put
forward
a
quick
straw
poll
for
us,
then.
G
C
Can
move
that
we're
asking
as
councils
council
members
sorry
we're
asking
the
administration
of
mayor
mendenhall
to
hold
on?
Let
me
see,
initiate
a
study
of
building
heights
integrated
downtown
started
with
a
station
center
in
north
temple
street
areas
followed
by
areas
and
fifa
transit
oriented
development
number
areas
that
make
up
the
greater
downtown
generally
defined
by
the
existing
d102.
The
3d4
and
gme
assaulting
districts.
L
All
right,
mr
chairman,
the
the
ordinance
would
be
based
on
the
first
motion
that
that
would
that
would
be
adopting
a
adopting
the
proposed
language
offered
by
the
petitioners,
with
the
addition
that
that
design
review
be
be
included
in
in
the
area
described
in
the.
In
the.
G
L
Mr
mr
vice
chair,
that
does
not
change.
That
is
the
petitioner's
language.
That's
what
the
petitioner
is
asking
for.
The
the
change
that
that
the
the
council
would
make,
and
that
previously
was
supported
by
the
planning
division-
was
that
that,
if,
if,
if
the
council
adopts
an
ordinance
based
on
the
petition,
then
design
review
must
be
included
in
any
new
construction.
Q
Vice
chair,
if
I
could
just
just
kind
of
maybe
clarify
the
the
petitioner,
was
requesting
to
allow
from
120
feet
to
190
feet
in
that
area
that
was
outlined
around
that
station
center
area,
and
so
at
that
point
they
weren't
required
in
the
language
they
provided
they
weren't
requesting
to
have
to
go
through
the
design
review
process
to
get
additional
height.
It
was
just
that
it
was
by
right,
and
so
it
kind
of
in
previous
conversations
it
seemed
as
a
council.
Q
F
I
think
that's
a
really
good
step,
but,
as
far
as
I
understand,
design
review
can't
look
at
things
like
use
of
the
spaces
and
to
me
the
mixture
of
uses
within
at
least
the
ground
floor
or
the
lower
floors
is
important
for
the
activation
of
that
neighborhood,
and
so
those
are
some
things
that
I'm
not
sure
that
we
have
a
tool
to
to
sort
of
make
sure
that
those
that
what's
bill
contributes
to
the
neighborhood.
F
But
I
I
guess
I'm
still
not
100
there
yet
in
terms
of
just
the
design
review
alone
will
work.
I
think
this
also
goes
to
that
discussion
we
had
about.
Are
we
adding
well
I'll?
Leave
that
never
mind
thanks.
Q
So
in
the
gmu
zone
there
are
some
streets
that
do
have
some
use
requirements
on
the
ground
floor.
I'd
have
to
check
the
ordinance
to
see
what
it
says,
particularly
about
this
area.
I
think
it's
a
I'm
guessing.
It
doesn't
say
anything
because
when
the
gmu
was
originally
created
and
mapped,
this
area
was
not
included
in
it.
This
was
added,
or
the
zoning
of
these
two
blocks
were
changed
just
several
just
a
few
years
ago.
Q
Q
We
can
look
at
that,
but
it
could
be
that
the
some
of
the
options
moving
forward
would
be
that
that
the
ground
floor
uses
is
one
of
those
base
requirements
and
regardless
of
what
the
use
the
other
uses
in
the
building
are,
that
could
be
added
as
well,
and
it
is
something
we've
done
in
other
zones,
including
sugar
house,
business
district
and
then
the
new
d2
zoning
standards
where
on
certain
streets
we
require
specific
ground
floor,
uses.
Q
Okay,
and
I
don't
know
that
we
would
necessarily
want.
I
think
this
would
be
more
of
a
prohibition
on
certain
ground
floor
uses
not
a
full,
not
a
a
restriction
like
what
we
do
on
main
street
or
what
was
proposed
in
the
sugar
house,
business
district,
meaning,
for
example,
on
main
street.
It
has
to
be
retail
entertainment,
those
kinds
of
uses,
whereas
in
sugar
house
there's
some
use
like
residential's
allowed
things
like
that.
Q
So
I
think
the
goal
is
to
have
the
uses
that
allow
people
to
go
in
and
out
of
the
buildings
and
activate
that
street,
particularly
with
with
the
goals
of
the
street
being
that
festival
street
concept.
And
so,
if
we
don't
have
the
design
of
the
ground
floor
right,
the
use
isn't
going
to
matter
as
much,
because
if
people
can't
enter
and
exit
frequently
to
those
buildings,
that's
going
to
be
the
biggest
issue.
So
we
can
look
at
those
and
see
what
the
best
course
of
action
is.
E
G
G
Out
yeah
for
the
purposes
of
this,
though,
I
think
we're
talking
about
the
building
heights,
which
is
really
the
core
issue
we're
dealing
with
with
the
station
center
and
attaching
design
review
to
that
particular
thing
and
then
initiating
the
request
to
have
this
discussion
elsewhere
in
the
city
for
heights.
G
Seen
a
no
from
mr
rogers
anybody
else,
strong
feelings.
Do
we
have
the
two
straw
polls
and
the
straw
poll
in
front
of
us
for
the
two
motions?
G
Our
two
forget,
the
term
we're
using
two
straw
polls,
essentially
one
for
the
the
height
with
the
with
the
company
design
review
and
the
other
one
was
for
initiating
the
review
of
heights
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
starting
with
station
center
in
washington.
G
All
right,
yeah.
C
Just
like
verification,
nick,
so
what
we're
doing
right
now,
if
we
allow
this
height
with
a
design
review,
we
are
accommodating
this
development
that
wants
to
happen,
but
then
we're
going
to
review
it
again
in
general
and
then
and
then
we
might
have
like
a
taller
building
right
now.
But
then,
if
we
decide
something
else
in
the
future,
then
we
might
look
different.
Is
that
what
we're
risking.
Q
Q
Out
of
that
study
right,
because
there
really
wouldn't
be
any
point
in
reconsidering
that
at
that
point
and
it's
the
path
of
least
resistance,
that
doesn't
mean
that
it
couldn't
go
taller.
I
doubt
we
would
go
backwards
and
go
lower,
but
yeah
there's
always
a
risk
right.
I
mean
this
would
authorize
it
within
that
along
that
one
street
properties
on
both
sides,
and
that
would
that
would
be
it.
Okay,.
G
Q
Right
and
if
I,
if
I
can
council
chair
the
other
thing
that
this
does
is
john
mentioned,
is
this
gives
us
the
direction
to
work
with
the
attorney's
office
to
actually
produce
the
adopting
ordinance,
because
we
have
the
first
bullet
is
the
applicant's
proposal,
the
proposal
that,
if
you
remember
the
planning
commission
recommended
denial
on
and
then
we
are
recommending
adding
the
design
review
process
to
help
to
get
to
a
path
where
we
can
at
least
look
at
those
impacts
of
height,
absent
that
future
study.
Q
G
So
council,
chair
wharton,
is
back.
We
are
in
the
middle
of
a
discussion
on
a
straw
poll
to
endorse
or
not
endorse,
moving
the
petitioners
requests
for
increased
hiding
station
center
forward
with
a
company
design
review
and
then
asking
for
initiation
and
height
review
in
different
areas
of
the
city,
so
that
could
go
forward
to
a
public
hearing
next
month.
G
Okay,
so
we
still
struggle
on
I'll
go
with
the
struggle
of
endorsing
the
petitioner's
request
for
increased
height
and
the
accompanying
design
review
element
to
that,
as
well
as
the
initiation
from
the
administration
to
start
that
review
of
other
parts
of
the
city
to
go
towards
to
start
the
public
common
period
in
september
are
those
in
favor
thumbs
up.
G
Yeah
we
got
to
get
it
written
to
go
to
the
next
step.
Thanks
all
right
looks
like
we've
got
unanimity
across
the
board.
Thank
you
all
very
much.
Thank
you,
john
and
nick
and
jennifer
and
russell.
Thank
you
and
we'll
move
on
to
mr
chair.
The
floor
is
yours.
A
Again,
thank
you,
mr
reichster.
I
appreciate
it
so
we
had
a
tentative
break
scheduled
for
10
minutes,
but
we're
pretty
behind.
So
I'm
gonna
push
through
that,
because
I
think
it
would
probably
be
better
to
have
a
break
between
this
and
the
formal
meeting
if
we
have
to
so.
Unless
there's
any
major
objections
doesn't
sound
like
it.
Okay
agent
item
number:
six
is
capital
improvement,
program
projects,
follow-up
with
us.
A
We
have
ben
ludke
from
the
city
council
office,
dan
ripp
from
hand
callie
ruiz
from
cip
or
the
cip,
specialist
and
john
larson,
the
transportation
director.
Then
we
also
have
some
others
available
for
questions.
I
It
is
adding
interior
lighting
to
jefferson
park.
It
looks
like
councilmember
mono
may
have
stepped
away,
so
we
can
circle
back
to
that.
F
No,
I
I
can
do
it
so.
The
this
goes
back
to
the
discussion
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
when
my
camera
wasn't
working
about
concerns
with
encampments
in
the
neighborhood,
and
there
was
a
meeting
put
on
by
the
parks
department
with
the
community
a
couple
weeks
ago,
where
they
suggested
a
few
things
that
may
help
improve
jefferson
park,
which
gets
quite
dark
at
night
currently
has
almost
no
lighting.
F
They
presented
a
couple,
I
think,
similar
to
what's
happening
on
eight
west
light
poles
that
could
like
really
low
hanging
fruit,
where
we
could
add
lights
quickly,
but
that's
not
necessarily
where
lights
are
needed
and
then
suggested
some
ways
that
more
light
could
be
added
to
that
park,
potentially
by
incorporating
it
with
a
walking
path.
F
The
idea
that
a
walking
path
park
has
a
lot
more
activity
and
that
tends
to
make
the
park
safer.
So
that's
one
thing
that
was
brought
up
and
indicated
that
it
would
need
cip
funding
that
would
most
likely
or
probably
be
appropriate
for
parks
impact
fees.
F
So
I
just
wanted
to
bring
it
up
to
the
council.
I
don't
think
we
have
an
idea
of
how
much
that
costs
yet
or
if
that
will
make
it
within
this
cycle,
but
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
be
looking
at
these
neighborhoods
that
are
affected
and
impacted
by
the
homeless
resource,
centers
figuring
out
what
we
can
do,
the
other
location.
So
there's
the
trail
lighting
within
the
park,
there's
just
general
lighting
within
the
park
and
then
right
along
paramount
avenue.
F
There
has
been
a
lot
of
requests
for
additional
street
lighting
and
we're
working
with
we've
been
working
with
the
administration
figure
out.
What
would
need
to
happen
for
that
and
it
might
be
cip.
It
might
be
just
a
general
budget
amendment
or
some
things
like
that,
but
I
just
wanted
to
get
that
on
everyone's
radar.
F
That's
something
that
has
been
an
increasing
concern
within
district
five
and
surrounding
the
gail
miller
resource
center
and
and
some
of
those
sort
of
specific
things
that
I
think
are
in
the
city's
court
to
help
with
the
neighborhood.
One
of
them
is
street
lighting.
I
The
only
thing
I
would
add,
mr
chair
is
we
just
received
a
transmittal
for
budget
amendment
number
two
so,
depending
on
the
timing
of
that
budget
amendment,
this
could
be
a
council
added
item
and
there
are
certainly
other
budget
amendments
later
in
the
year
or
the
council
could
initiate
their
own
budget
amendment.
If
this
project
is
a
priority,
when
we
have
more
information-
and
it
looks
like
council
member
fowler
has
a
hand
up.
H
Thank
you
and
darren.
I
appreciate
bringing
these
suggestions.
I
know
that
this
year
none
of
our
community-led
projects
were
recommended
for
funding
from
the
administration,
and
so
my
understanding
is
that
we
basically
last
time
we
took
a
straw
poll,
pretty
much
said
you
know
we're
gonna.
We
walked
through
the
projects
that
were
recommended
for
funding
and
please
somebody
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
that
we
walked
through
those
things
that
were
recommended
for
funding
and
took
a
straw
poll
where
everyone
said
yeah.
This
is
sort
of
we're.
H
Okay
with
this,
knowing
that
we're
going
to
address
how
this
process
was
done
this
year
versus
how
we
want
to
go
forward
with
a
priority
with
community-led,
cip
projects.
So,
while
I
understand
the
need
for
increased
lighting
in
these
different
areas,
I
think
there
would
be
several
people
in
my
district.
That
would
say:
okay.
Well,
here
are
some
extra
projects
that
we
didn't
get
funded
and
that
you
know
we
want
to
bring
to
the
table
and-
and
so
again
my
understanding
was.
H
So
if
there's
room
and
a
budget
amendment,
if
there's
room
to
look
at
things
with
you
know,
we
oftentimes
and
ben
can
correct
me
because
he's
the
the
expert
on
impact
fees,
but
often
times
later
in
the
year,
we'll
see
that
we
have
an
increase
in
impact
fees
or
maybe
not
so
much,
but
we
can
play
a
play,
but
we
can
utilize
the
clamshell
game
a
little
bit
sometimes
later
in
the
year.
So
I
don't
want
to
say
I'm
opposed
to
this
idea
and
the
project
of
it.
H
I
just
think
that
you
know
I
am
incredibly
frustrated
with
how
the
cip
project
process
went
this
year
because,
as
everyone
who's
listened
to
our
last
three
briefing.
Our
last
two
briefings
I
encouraged
community
members
saying
this
is
the
way
that
our
city
can
help
with
these
community-led
projects,
and
then
none
of
them
were
funded
right
and
they
went
through
the
time
and
the
energy
to
put
forth
their
applications,
and
so
I
I
mean
personally,
I
don't
feel
like.
H
I
would
be
able
to
be
supportive
of
adding
this
to
the
cip
project
list
today
or
any
in
the
future,
because
every
everyone
in
our
different
districts
have
community-led
projects
that
that
we
feel
passionate
about
right,
and
so
I'm
happy
to
move
forward
and
say.
Is
there
a
budget
amendment?
Is
there
other
funding
that
we
could
look
at
how
this
could
could
be
used?
But
that
and
me
this
first
time
but
me
hearing
about
this-
is
like
just
like
general
first
reaction.
F
Yeah,
I
think,
could
I
res
yeah,
please
don't
yeah
one
clarification.
This
was
not
actually
a
community-led
application.
There
was
no
application
for
that.
There
was
a
different
application
from
the
community
to
sort
of
grapple
with
the
same
issue,
and
that
was
for
camping
resistant
landscaping
in
the
ballpark
parking
lot
kind
of
between
in
front
of
the
horizonte
school,
so
similar
issue,
but
a
different
application.
F
This
idea
came
from
a
meeting
that
the
administration
of
the
parks
department
actually
had
with
the
community
where
they
said
they
came
with
some
several
very
specific
ideas
that
they
could
do
and
ask
the
community
for
some
other
ideas,
and
this
was
one
of
the
ones
that
would
require
a
budget
amendment
or
a
cip
funding.
So
that
was
this
was
not
a
community-led
application.
It
was
from
kind
of
that
administration
meeting.
H
But
is
it
something
that's
already
being
funded
in
the
proposed
amount?
The
proposed
it's,
not
cip,
budget.
Okay.
So
again,
it's
still
the
same
concept
for
me
and
happy
to
like
explore
in
a
budget
amendment
some
of
these
things,
but
I
think
for
me
that
same
concept
of
as
I
have
to
kind
of
stick
with
where
I
was
on
cip,
because
if
not
my
blood
starts
to
boil
a
little
bit
and
and
want
to
work
through
the
process
in
the
future
of
a
better
process.
F
Yeah
and
I'm
sensitive
to
that
as
well,
I
think
that
the
things
that
have
changed
in
the
city
between
when
we
first
had
that
discussion
or
when
the
administration
proposed
the
cip
and
today
are
the
increase
in
encampments
and
concerns
of
safety
that
are
related
to
that.
So
I
think
that's
why
I
wanted
to
at
least
have
a
discussion
about
about
that
within
this
context.
F
So
I,
but
I
understand
that,
there's
a
whole
lot
of
other
backstory
that
we
need
to
take
into
consideration
as
well.
H
Chris,
if
I
made
one
last
thing
and
then
I'll
be
quiet
on
this,
I
completely
agree
with
you
and
I
think
it
goes
back
to
that
conversation
we
were
having
earlier
with
rachel
of
what
is
the
immediate
need
that
we
can
do,
and
I
think
some
of
that
may
come
later
in
a
budget
amendment
discussion
of
where
can
we
find
money
to
allocate
towards
some
of
this
more
immediate
need,
based
on
what
we're
seeing
and
increasing?
So
I'm
not
opposed
to
that
idea
at
all.
Just
not
that
clear.
A
Okay,
so
does
anybody
anybody
else
want
to
weigh
in
on
this?
I
do
kind
of
want
to
give
council
member
model,
but
the
last
word,
and
since
it's
something
that
he's
bringing
forward
darren,
is
there
anything
else
you
want
to
add.
Oh
wait.
I'm
sorry!
Councilmember
johnston
has
his
hand
up
sorry
I'll.
I
will
still
give
you
the
last
word,
but
I
just
want
to
go
ahead
and
council
member
johnson.
G
I'm
wondering
if
utilities
has
any
idea
of
the
cost
of
putting
them
on
existing
light
poles
in
on
paramount
street
if
that
could
be
found
somewhere
else
in
the
existing
budget.
As
a
quick
thing,
the
other
also
wonder,
there's
got
to
be
money,
and
maybe
the
mitigation
budget
as
well
or
some
other
things
to
use
towards
paramount
jefferson
may
be
a
similar
thing.
I'm
wondering
if
you
can
find
funds
elsewhere
existing
that
could
be
used,
at
least
as
a
stopgap
measure.
I
F
So
the
administration
has
already
put
up
one
light
in
jefferson
park
and
I
think
they're
planning
at
least
two
others
and
those
would
be
sort
of
those
just
where
light
exists.
The
pole
exists
with
power
already
to
it,
not
necessarily
where
the
activity
is
happening,
but
that's
better
than
nothing,
and
I
appreciate-
and
I
really
appreciate
that
those
are
happening.
I
think
the
discussion-
that's
happened,
paramount
avenue
got
where
it
is
now,
and
this
is
as
of
today.
F
I
think
that
I
read
this
email
that
their
the
street
lighting
utility
has
looked
at
it
and
said.
Well,
we
need
to
the
council
needs
to
give
approval
that
we
are
able
to
do
something
above
and
beyond.
What's
typical
in
the
standard,
and
so
that's
I
think,
a
different
conversation
than
cip,
probably,
but
that
right
now
the
street
does
meet
the
city's
standards.
F
G
F
Was
a
an
email
today
so
we're
I
think,
working
on
exactly
whether
that's
and
maybe
jen
bruno,
I
asked
her
to
look
into
that.
So
maybe
she
has
an
update.
M
M
E
A
I
have
a
question
what
I
I
understand,
what
councilmember
fowler
is
saying,
which
seems
to
kind
of
be
like
a
fairness
issue
about
cip
and
howard,
the
situation
that
we're
having
to
deal
with
that
now
versus
being
open
to
considering
it
as
coming
from
a
general
fund
proposal,
can
you
speak
to
the
like
pluses
and
minuses
of
that
from
a
like
budgetary
standpoint,.
M
A
Well,
so,
okay,
just
to
summarize
so
it
sounds
like
some
like
councilmember
fellow
saying
that
the
concern
about
ca
about
including
it
now
in
cip,
is
that
I
get
it
we're
already.
I
think,
as
a
council
kind
of
frustrated,
with
the
way
cip
is,
but
leaving
that
aside
for
this
year,
leaving
that
aside,
that
there
are
also
projects
that
are
in
everybody's
district
that
would
have.
We
would
have
liked
to
be
included,
and
so
adding
this
at
this
juncture,
maybe
doesn't
feel
feel
fair
amy.
Am
I
summarizing
accurately?
A
Okay,
so
it
doesn't
feel
fair,
but
council
members,
it
sounds
like
are
willing
to
consider
this
as
part
of
a
budget
amendment.
So
what
are
the
like?
What
are
the
aside
from
the
fairness
issue?
Is
there
like
a
budgetary
reason
why
it
might
be
makes
sense
to
do
it
in
one
way,
instead
of
the
other?
J
A
J
Most
of
this
council
was
elected,
and
that
was
what
the
city
was
going
to
do
to
mitigate
issues
in
the
areas
of
the
homeless,
resource
centers
and
that
conversation
didn't
ever
get
off
the
ground
when,
when
council,
when
mayor
mendenhall
was
a
council
member,
she
had
raised
it
frequently,
but
now
that
there's
been
some
experience
with
the
homeless
resource
centers
there,
there
might
be
some
benefit
for
the
council
to
have
an
overall
discussion
about
the
three
centers
and
what
you
could
do
to
mitigate
the
issues
surrounding
each
one.
J
This
one
in
particular
the
issue
is
lighting.
Others
may
also
have
lighting
issues
or
they
may
have
something
else,
but
so
so
I
think
that
we
like
everything
to
go
through
the
cip
process.
This
one
might
have
a
nexus,
that's
that
justifies
it
being
part
of
a
different
conversation.
J
J
Applications
or
or
you
could
look
at
them
from
the
perspective,
any
policy
perspective
you
want,
one
would
be
investing
in
communities
of
color.
One
would
be
investing
in
opportunity
areas
any
number
of
things.
So
so
I
think
the
debate
about
which
funding
source
is
not
as
important
as
how
you
want
to
have
these
conversations
and
which
things
you
want
to
fund,
and
then
we
can
recommend
what
your
options
are.
G
G
A
lot
of
our
discussions
focused
around
a
pretty
positive
economy,
with
a
state
street
cda
coming
online,
which
still
hasn't
happened.
So
some
of
our
discussions
really
hinged
on
some
of
those
things
happening
quicker
than
they
did.
I
I
think
that
the
we
have
a
mitigation
account
we
set
aside
one
point:
we
have
some
small
business
improvement
monies.
Perhaps
I
gotta
believe
there's
some
funding
elsewhere
in
their
budgets.
We
could
pull
from
to
hit
a
couple
of
these
low-hanging
fruit
immediately,
while
we
discuss
a
more
targeted
investment
longer
term.
G
I
might
be
naive.
I
apologize,
but
it
might
be
a
little
easier
than
going
through
the
cip
discussion.
In
the
last
reason,.
I
F
I
don't
think
we
do
and-
and
I
I
kind
of
agree
with
a
lot
of
the
comments-
it
might
be
difficult
to
do
it
in
this
I
mean
we're
halfway
more
than
halfway
into
the
cip
process,
but
I
kind
of
want
to
just
put
a
flag
in
the
ground
and
say
that
this
is
a
current
sort
of
situation
on
the
ground
needs
to
be
addressed
and
it
this
could
be
one
way
to
do
it
or
it
could
be
a
budget
amendment
future,
and
so
I
I'm
open
to
both.
I
A
Well,
okay,
so
just
but
like
circling
back
cindy
and
jennifer.
My
question
was
more
like
there's,
no
like
strategic
budgetary
benefit
to
to
like
making
an
exception
to
make
this
part
of
cip,
as
opposed
to
doing
it
as
a
budget
amendment.
A
E
We're
looking
at
this
one
for
making
expeditious,
we
don't
want
to
spend
months
trying
to
figure
out
where
the
money,
so
could
you
roll
it
into
that
same
discussion?
We
had
earlier
about
the
encampments
and
give
it
to
rachel
and
say:
hey,
add
this
to
that
the
encampment
question
and
budgeting,
because
we
don't
want
to
spend
six
months
looking
for
lights
for
for
jefferson
park.
We
would
rather
have
it
hey.
Let's
try
to
find
some
lights
in
matter
of
weeks
and
get
that
money
moving
and
get
the
project
moving.
E
Now,
because
the
issue
is
now
it's
not
six
months
from
now
and
it's
just
gonna
get
worse.
So
how
do
we
roll
this
into
that
whole
encampment
scenario,
because
it
is
part
of
the
whole
encampment
issue,
the
resource
centers,
the
encampments
and
the
the
homeless
shelters.
F
David,
so
when
building
off
what
councilman
rodriguez
said,
thank
you
the
when
it
was
actually
presented
to
the
community.
It
was
kind
of
suggested
by
the
parks
department
to
up
that
to
the
community
that
they
would
apply
for
it
for
the
next
cip
round,
which
would
be
implemented
two
years
from
now,
or
something
like
that.
So
I
think
that's
why
I
wanted
to
bring
it
up
during
this
discussion
that
this
is
something
that
I
don't
think
can
wait
that
long
addressing
this
issue.
F
So
we
need
to
address
it
more
quickly,
so,
whether
that's
through
cip,
now
or
whether
it's
through
a
budget
amendment,
I
think
to
me,
is
not
it's
not
critical,
but
it
is
critical
that
it
doesn't
happen
two
years
from
now,
which
would
be
the
next
community-led,
cip
application
fund
when
that
would
be
implemented
so
or
more
right.
So
that's,
I
think
I
think
that's
what's
critical
to
me
is
that
it's
not
that
it
happens
just
quicker
than
than
later.
A
Okay,
all
right!
Well,
I
said
I'd
give
you
the
last
word
and
we
have
to
move
on,
so
I
think
we're
going
to
move
on
now
and
we
are
at
or
sorry
what
is
there
anything
else
on
cip
that
anybody
wanted
to
ask.
I
Mr
chair,
it
can
certainly
be
bumped
to
next
tuesday,
given
the
time
the
administration
was
prepared
to
give
an
overview
of
10
projects
that
the
council
decided
not
to
fund
as
part
of
the
annual
budget.
They
are
transportation
projects
and
they
are
funded
with
the
new
county.
Fourth
quarter:
cent
sales
tax
revenue
stream-
it
does
not
have
to
be
adopted
by
the
september
first
deadline
like
the
rest
of
the
capital
project's
budget,
so
we
can
do
that
at
a
future
date.
If
you
prefer.
E
R
E
Will
run
into
some
issues
with
moving
projects
forward
if
the
funding
doesn't
get
allocated,
we're
probably
talking
like
sometime
in
the
fall,
but
not
having
that
funding
will
impact
our
ability
to
move
forward
with
studies,
it'll
impact
our
ability
to
put
projects
out
for
bed
to
get
engineering
work
done
again.
We
don't
have
to
talk
about
it
today,
but
I
just
wanted
to
bring
an
awareness
to
the
council
that
too
much
delay
does
have
implication
on
project
implementation.
Thank
you.
A
Yeah
we'll
try
to
get
it
on
for
next
week.
Sorry,
cindy
gus,
jensen.
J
This
is
this
could
have
been
avoided,
but
it
is
a
situation
where
the
administration
made
a
proposal
to
sort
of
have
you
guys
delegate
a
lot
of
decision-making
authority
to
the
administration,
so
it
it
is
not
as
though
we're
delaying
it.
It
could
have
gone
through
a
public
process
previously.
So
I
think
the
council
just
needs
to
take
the
time
they
need
to
take
to
to
have
their
opportunity
to
review
it.
A
I
think
we
still
want
to
move
really
expeditiously
and
understand
the
concerns
that
yeah
that
that's
being
raised.
So
thanks,
cindy,
okay,
let's
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
seven,
which
we
were
scheduled
to
have
for
a
municipal
renewable
energy
project
update.
But
I
am
gonna
move
that
to
a
written
briefing.
A
If
that's
okay,
I'm
just
in
in
lieu
of
time
and
vicky,
I'm
hoping
that
you
did
get
the
notice
on
that.
A
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
or
any
objections
to
moving
that
to
written
briefing,
I
thought
I
thought
I
heard
somebody
saying
something,
but
okay,
all
right.
Thank
you
vicky.
We
appreciate
it.
I'm
sorry
we
tried
to
get
noticed
here
earlier.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
M
A
Yes,
thank
you.
Sorry,
I'm
looking
thanks
alison
thanks,
I'm
trying
to
look
at
that
and
some
other
messages.
So
we
got
allison
from
the
city
council
office,
lisa
demons
from
the
fire
department,
lewis,
cogan
from
trails
and
and
public
lands
and
rusty
vetter
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
M
So,
mr
chair,
I'm
not
sure
whether
lewis
has
actually
joined
us
yet
because
we're
a
little
earlier
than
I
am
I'm
here,
I'm
beautiful
beautiful,
so
we
have
lewis
cogan
with
us.
I
just
wanted
to
say
briefly.
If
I
can
find
my
note
there.
It
is
that
this
is
the
vegetation
reduction
permits
for
wildfire
mitigation
issue
that
was
originally
scheduled
for
may
5th
2020,
but
the
administration
had
to
have
it
pulled
from
the
council
agenda
to
take
time
to
consider
the
potential
effects
on
public
utilities
property.
M
The
intention
was
really
just
to
limit
this
to
public
services
property,
and
so
that's
why
it
was
delayed,
lewis
and
and
the
others,
I
believe,
will
will
take
us
through
a
quick,
a
quick
recap
of
the
of
the
proposed
program.
I
just
want
to
mention
that
the
schedule
for
this
item
will
be
to
set
the
public
hearing
date
tonight
at
your
formal
meeting.
Then
the
public
hearing
date
will
be
september.
15Th
and
potential
action
will
be
on
october
6..
M
So
if
there
aren't
any
questions
about
that,
I
think
lewis
can
take
it
away.
E
A
S
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
understand
time
is
a
little
short
here
and
I'm
gonna
leave
my
video
off
because
having
kind
of
a
slow
connection,
so
this
this
proposal
is
the
result
of
quite
a
bit
of
work.
Going
back
over
the
past
two
years
between
the
salt
lake
city,
fire
department
and
salt
lake
city,
public
lands,
primarily
the
division
of
trails
and
natural
lands.
S
We
historically
have
received
numerous
requests
from
homeowners
who
live
in
the
wildland
urban
interface
and
whose
properties
immediately
border
natural,
open
space,
where
homeowners
are
requesting
permission
to
conduct
vegetation
removal
in
public,
open
space,
and
in
the
past
we
haven't
had
a
mechanism
to
really
permit
that
or
or
allow
it
to
occur,
and
we
we
see
this
really
as
a
as
as
a
welcome
addition
to
the
community.
S
Wildfire
preparedness
and
prevention
toolkit
fire
mitigation
is,
is
not
really
a
specialty
of
the
trails
in
natural
lands
division,
but
it's
something
that
we
really
hope
to
to
participate
and
collaborate
in
and
allow
to
occur
to
the
extent
possible
and
to
the
extent
that
we
can
also
protect
the
the
other
kind
of
fundamental
purposes
of
open
space,
including
wildlife,
habitat
recreation,
scenic
values,
etc,
and-
and
we
feel
like
this,
this
permit
process
will
accomplish
we'll
accomplish
that.
S
This,
this
permit
process
permit
program
would
be
available
to
any
private
homeowner
who
lives
immediately
adjacent
to
a
property
that
is
managed
by
salt
lake
city,
public
lands,
which
means
basically
a
park
or
a
natural
area.
And
primarily
we
expect
this
to
benefit
those
who
live
adjacent
to
salt
lake
city,
natural
areas
under
the
management
of
trails
and
natural
lands.
S
That
includes
very
roughly
perhaps
about
1
000
homeowners
who
who
live
adjacent
to
either
our
foothills
natural
area
in
capitol
hill,
the
greater
avenues
and
the
east
bench
neighborhoods,
and
also
to
homeowners
who
live
adjacent
to
other
natural
areas
around
the
city
within
the
urban
space,
including
nature
parks
like
miller,
bird
refuge
and
wasatch,
hollow
preserve
and
also
natural
areas
along
the
jordan
river
parkway
trail
and
and
other
spaces.
S
The
the
the
the
permit
program
and
the
requirements
they're
in
are
contained
the
details
are
are
in
the
transmittal,
so
I
don't
want
to
spend
much
time.
But
one
thing
I
will
point
out
is
that
there
there
are
some
some
stipulations
in
the
permit
program.
We
don't
that.
The
purpose
of
this
is
not
to
serve
as
an
alternative
for
private
homeowners,
who
don't
wish
to
conduct
or
create
defensive,
defensible
space
on
their
own
properties
and
instead
want
that
to
occur
on
public
land.
S
S
Reduction
in
the
adjoining
open
space
in
in
the
foothills
homeowners,
with
an
approved
permit
would
be
able
to
conduct
some
vegetation
removal
up
to
30
feet
from
their
property
boundary
and
in
the
urban
area,
up
to
five
feet
from
the
property
boundary
acknowledging
that
in
many
cases,
our
our
greenways
and
and
nature
parks
are
very
narrow
and
providing
30
could,
in
some
cases,
be
the
entire
greenway
we
there's.
This
is
in
our
minds,
a
pilot
program
that
we're
very
excited
for,
but
there
are
a
number
of
unknowns.
S
We
don't
know
how
popular
this
will
be,
in
other
words,
how
many
applications
we'll
receive,
and
we
also
don't
have
a
great
idea
to
start
it.
How
much
time
will
be
taken
up
administering
this
permit
program,
and
so
we
intend
to
attempt
to
administer
it.
S
Using
existing
resources
is
the
best
we
can
for
this
first
year
or
so,
and
then
once
we
know
a
lot
more
about
its
popularity
and
the
the
time
and
resources
taken,
we
we
may
need
to
come
back
to
council
at
that
time
and
and
make
modifications
to
the
program
expand
it
ask
for
additional
resources
as
necessary.
A
A
Thank
you.
Let's
see,
item
number
nine
is
advice
and
consent
for
the
salt
lake
city,
economic
development,
director
ben
colander
ben.
Do
we
have
you
with
us
we're
a
little
early?
A
I
miss
you
great
good
to
see
you
good.
Congratulations
on
your
selection
by
the
mayor.
Now
you
had
told
me
that
you
wanted
some
time
to
to
make
a
statement,
so
I
wanted
to
give
that
to
you
now
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
questions
from
council
members.
K
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
I'll.
Keep
it
brief
for
the
schedule
and
to
allow
plenty
of
time
for
questions
right.
Okay,
so
go
ahead,
so
I
could
be
lengthy.
K
Well,
first
and
foremost,
I
I
just
like
to
thank
the
mayor
for
her
trust
to
have
me
before
the
council
and
I'd
also
like
to
thank
the
council,
for
you
know
all
the
support
that
we
as
a
department
have
received
from
the
council
since
I've
been
here
the
past
three
years.
K
I
also
want
to
say
thank
you
to
our
dedicated
team.
Who's
been
amazingly
fluid
and
you
know
just
responsive
to
the
needs
of
our
community
over,
especially
over
the
past
year.
Everything
that
our
department
has
accomplished
really
has
been
a
true
team
effort.
K
K
I
think
it's
really
easy
to
take
for
granted
the
place
we
live
and
it's
you
know
things
that
we
promote
in
economic
development
all
the
time
you
know
if
it's
a
proximity
to
the
outdoors,
we
were
just
talking
about
that
earlier,
the
urban
core
and
the
culture
just
to
name
a
few
there's.
No
other
place
I'd
rather
be
doing
this
work,
and
you
know
what
seems
like
a
lifetime
ago
now
I
was
I
started.
K
My
economic
development
career
working
in
afghanistan
and
I
was
an
I
was
an
economic
developer,
working
for
an
innovative
task
force
out
of
the
pentagon.
K
K
K
K
But
you
know
one
thing
that
our
country
is
lacking
and
I
think
that's
pretty
evident
right
now
and
what
we're
seeing
is
you
know
when
it
comes
to
building
human
capital
doing
so
in
a
way
that
is
equitable
and
sustainable,
and
so
you
know
what
we
have
an
opportunity
to
do
is
to
grow
that
with
intent
at
a
local
level,
and
I
think
our
city's
values
and
our
elected
officials
already
reflect
our
desire
to
do
so.
And
I
see
this
is
a
core
responsibility
that
I'll
carry
in
this
role
as
a
department.
K
It
reflects
that
with
our
our
business
community
and
an
rda
that
builds
some
of
the
coolest
neighborhoods
around,
and
you
know
whether
our
team's
working
with
developers
or
creating
a
new
program
such
as
the
initiative
that
we're
doing
with
the
healthcare
innovation
ecosystem
or
working
on
enhancing
our
business
and
cultural
districts
is
which
is
a
conversation
we'd
like
to
have
with
the
council
in
the
near
future.
K
And
finally,
as
many
of
you
have
known
me,
for
a
few
years
now,
we've
had
the
opportunity
to
discuss
economic
development
formally
and
and
casually
as
well,
and
it's
something
that
I
enjoy
as
a
you
know
in
my
professional
career,
but
also
as
a
personal
endeavor,
and
so
I
hope
this
dedication
really
pays
dividends
to
our
local
economy
and
and
far
beyond
this
role,
as
well.
K
A
Thank
you
again,
council
members,
any
questions
for
ben
collinger,
councilman,
ronaldo,
moros.
C
C
Okay,
I
was
just
saying:
congratulations
on
the
nomination
cool
background
that
you
have.
I
didn't
know,
so
that's
invaluable
experience,
I
think,
for
what
we
need.
You
know
in
a
city
that
is
becoming
more
diverse
and
we
have
a
lot
of
new
americans,
especially
with
refugees
coming
over
and
and
it's
nice
to
know
that
you
understand
you
know
where
they're
coming
and
what
situations
they
had
to
deal
with
in
the
past.
C
I
you
know
you've
been
with
with
economic
development
for
a
little
bit,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you
once
again
where,
where
do
you
see
you
in
the
economic
development
department
too,
to
like?
What's
your
wish
and
hope,
you
know
that
that
you'll
be
able
to
accomplish
in
your,
however
long
you'll
be
here
with
us.
K
I'm
sorry
I
lost
you
for
part
of
that,
but
my
understanding
of
the
question
is,
if
I
can
repeat
it
back,
what
do
I
hope
to
accomplish
in
this
department?
Is
that
right?
K
I
think,
there's
a
huge
opportunity
and
as
business
development
director,
you
know
we
did
a
lot
of
work
as
a
team
on
understanding
what
the
needs
are
on
the
west
side,
and
I
think
that,
there's
in
terms
of
geographic
equity
in
the
city,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
attention
that
we
can
give
over
there,
especially
as
it
pertains
to
our
residents
in
human
capital
over
there,
and
you
know
a
focus
on
that,
and
that
brings
our
city
in
line
in
terms
of
creating
the
potential
for
upward
mobility
and
prosperity
is
something
that
I'm
dedicated
to
and
I'd
love
to
see
happen.
K
I
would
say
you
know
we
have
a
couple
of
things
coming
before
the
council
on
the
budget
amendment
that
will
be
great
tools
to
help
move.
That
initiative
forward
in
that
hope,
and
so
continuing
that
effort
is
something
of
priority
as
well.
I
think
something
that
I
would
like
to
see
and
work
with
the
council
on
is
looking
at
economic
policies.
I
know
we
talk
a
lot
about
businesses
as
clients
in
economic
development
and
working
closely
with
them,
which
we
will
continue
to
do.
C
C
Will
you
are
you
going
to
implement
some
equity,
very
specific,
targeted
solutions
that
are
equitable
to
our?
You
know
to
our
residents
diverse
residents,
something
that
you
have
in
mind
that
you
would
be
implementing
soon
as
we
go
through
this
whole
process
in
our
system
in
the
city.
K
One
thing
out
of
the
gate
that
we'd
like
to
ask
for
council's
consideration
on
is
a
closer
partnership
with
the
swazo
business
center.
They
work
quite
closely
with
our
diverse
entrepreneurs,
both
female
owned
and
some
of
our
diverse
populations
as
well,
and
so
that
is
a
request
that
we're
working
on
to
come
before.
Council
and
that's
what
we've
learned
is.
We
need
to
work
through
trusted
organizations
to
build
those
relationships,
and
that
is
an
early
start
for
us
and
something
that
we're
immediately
asking
for.
C
A
Any
questions
councilmember
fowler.
H
I
just
want
to
say
congrats
ben,
I
think
you've
done
a
great
job
and
it's
been
great
getting
to
know
you
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
I
look
forward
to
seeing
you
move
this
department
forward
in
a
really
great
way,
as
it's
been
on,
that
that
train
track
for
a
while
and
you're
just
going
to
keep
moving
it
forward.
So
congrats.
A
Okay,
well
thanks
again
ben
for
oh
lisa,
schaefer.
D
I
just
wanted
the
chance
to
publicly
thank
ben
for
filling
in
as
the
interim
director
for
what
has
been
almost
an
entire
year
and
to
acknowledge
the
sacrifice
that
that's
taken.
I
have
a
real
soft
spot
in
my
heart
for
interim
directors,
because
I
had
to
be
one
for
a
few
months
and
doing
more
than
one
job
at
once
at
this
level
is
extremely
challenging
and
ben
has
really
risen
to
the
challenge.
So
thank
you,
ben,
and
I
really
appreciate
you
have
our
full
support.
E
A
You
you
ben
congratulations,
we'll
go
ahead
and
put
you
forward
for
confirmation
at
our
formal
meeting
tonight.
Thank
you.
K
You
could
tell
me
you're
going
to
vote.
No,
if
I'm
not
there.
A
Well,
that
would
not
be
fair
with
everyone
else,
you're
more
than
welcome
to
join
us,
but
thank
you
ben.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Next,
everyone
item
number
10
on
the
calendar
is
advice
and
consent
for
the
human
resources,
our
chief
human
resources
officer,
deborah
alexander
deb.
It's
good
to
have
you
here
with
us.
A
I'll
go
ahead
and
let
you
start
if
you
have
any.
If
you
want
to
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
yourself
and
and
what
you'd
like
to
do
with
this
position,
and
then
we
will
turn
it
over
for
questions.
R
I
have
enjoyed
my
time
here
and
I
think
we've
accomplished
a
lot
of
tremendous
things
specifically
around
davis
county
had
a
tremendous
need
to
take
a
look
at
its
culture
to
look
at
its
culture
in
terms
of
inclusion
and
all
kinds
of
other
things
from
the
spectrum
of,
like
I
say,
acceptance
all
the
way
out
to
issues
related
to
harassment
and
discrimination.
R
We've
done
a
ton
of
work
there
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
was
reflecting
as
I
was
thinking
about
it.
Thinking
about
what
I
would
say
to
you-
and
I
was
thinking
that,
if
anything,
the
last
four
years
have
more
clearly
made
made
it
clear
to
me
in
a
heightened
way
how
important
it
is
that
that
an
organization
has
a
proactive
and
proactive
and
thoughtful
hr
department,
and
specifically,
when
that
comes
to
equity,
there's
there's
all
kinds
of
things
about
that
we
can.
We
can
talk
about.
R
Maybe
we'll
see
more
about
that
in
a
minute.
For
those
of
you
who
don't
know
me,
I
I've
lived
in
salt
lake
for
so
long.
I
may
as
well
be
I
don't
live
in
the
city,
but
I've
lived
in
this
area
for
so
long
I
may
as
well
be
from
here,
went
to
the
university
of
utah
undergraduate
and
mpa
and
I'm
a
youths
fan
you
know
sometimes
not
always.
I
don't
really
follow
it
too.
D
R
R
One
of
the
things
I
really
want
to
do
is
work
with
the
current
leadership,
and
so
I
like
what
you
all,
obviously
the
mayor's
administration
stand
for,
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
actually
being
able
to
work
on
some
initiatives
that,
when
I
was
with
the
city
before
I
didn't
necessarily
have
a
chance
to
work
on.
I
can
say
more
about
that,
but
I'm
looking
forward
to
that
very
much.
R
I
think
that
the
city
is
facing
some
big
challenges
and
one
thing
that
we
know
about
all
organizations-
and
I
tend
to
do
things
organizationally,
which
is,
I
guess,
sort
of
how
hr
people
do,
although
it's
it's
also
sort
of
not,
we
think
about,
think
about
how
organizations
function,
and
one
thing
that
we
know
is
that
no
organization
stays
the
same
over
the
course
of
four
years,
let
alone
one
that's
seen
as
much
change
the
salt
lake
city
has
so
in
some
respects.
R
I
know
that
I'm
unfamiliar
with
certain
parts
of
salt
lake
city
in
some
respects.
I
know
that.
There's
a
lot
to
learn
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
that.
I'm
looking
forward
to
being
a
part
of
some
of
the
changes,
and
I
guess
what
sums
it
up
a
little
bit
might
be.
When,
when
my
candidacy
was
announced,
I
received
some
really
great
texts,
some
of
them
from
my
former
staff,
some
of
them
from
people.
R
A
A
I'm
really
glad
that
you
mentioned
diversity
and
inclusion
and
our
recruitment
efforts,
because
that's
something
that's
really
important
to
me
and
I
think
really
important
today
to
this
council
and
so
I'd
love
to
hear
more
about
your
thoughts
on
that,
and
then
you
mentioned
that
there
are
some
other
things
you
wanted
to
work
on
before
you
left
that
you
can
go
into
a
little
bit
more
and
I'd
like
to
hear
those
as
well.
R
Okay,
I'm
going
to
keep
that
question
in
reverse
and
I'll
tell
you
the
things
I
wanted
to
work
on
that
I
didn't.
I
didn't
necessarily
so
when
I
first
went
to
the
city
I
started,
and
there
was
a
council
there
was
a
council
audit
on
hr's
functionality
about
the
time
I
started
specifically
that
revolved
around
compensation,
and
so
a
lot
of
my
first
years
of
working
were
basically
re-energizing
restructuring
fixing
the
hr
component.
R
R
In
addition
to
that,
we
had
a
number
of
pretty
high
level,
pretty
time
consuming
pretty
serious
disciplinary
issues
that
we
all
spent
a
lot
of
time
on.
So
there
were
two
things
that
I
was
really
wanted
to
work
on.
One
was,
I
remember,
being
in
a
well,
I
don't.
R
It
was
a
meeting
of
some
sort
and
I
remember
seeing
an
individual
who
came
through
the
door
who
was
from
public
services
and,
in
the
course
of
our
exchange,
it
became
clear
that
he
didn't
know
how
to
read
and
one
of
the
things
I
thought
was
wow.
I
would
really
love
to
do
something
to
make
sure
that
our
folks
had
options
when
it
came
to
that
sort
of
thing.
The
other
one
was.
R
It
was
for
a
time
a
mentor
of
women,
mentoring,
other
women,
women
professionals
in
the
workplace
and
an
initiative
around
that,
and
I
it
happened.
It
so
happened
that
it
was
going
on
about
the
time
that
I
was
I
up
to
my
neck
and
a
bunch
of
personnel
issues,
but
one
of
the
and
there
were
things
about
it-
that
I
would
have
liked
to
have
seen
us
do
differently
and
and
here's
kind
of
what
they
were
so
sometimes
mentorship
programs
focus
on.
Well.
R
How
do
you
write
your
resume
and
all
of
that
stuff
is
great.
Sorry
if
I
wave
my
hands
around
and
it
bugs.
You
then
just
tell
me.
I
feel
really
strongly
about
this.
So
sometimes
women
mentoring,
other
women.
We
we
say
well,
you
know,
here's
your
resume
and
here's
how
this
sort
of
thing
and
all
you
know,
here's
how
to
make
a
job
application
and
here's
how
to
network
and
that
sort
of
stuff-
and
I
always
felt
like
we
were
missing
a
component
which
was
how
do
how
to
work
with
people
in
the
workplace.
R
How
do
you
disagree
with
somebody
and
and
feel
empowered
to
speak
up
and
speak
about
that
and
yet
be
a
professional?
But
those
are
the
kinds
of
skills
that
I
I
would
have
liked
to
have
had
a
chance
to
work
on.
So
hopefully,
hopefully
I'll
get
a
chance
to
do
that
in
terms
of
recruitment,
so
recruitment,
there's
al,
there's
all
kinds
of
ways
that
you
can
focus
on:
creating
a
more
diverse
work
group
and
obviously,
if
you're
gonna,
if
you're
gonna
focus
on
that,
then
you're
gonna
have
to
focus
on
recruitment.
R
So
some
of
the
first
things
to
consider
are
these
the
city
at
least
the
way
I
remember
it.
The
city
is,
is
fairly
advanced
in
many
of
these
ways
already,
but
here's
all
the
here's,
all
the
things
that
it's
important
to
make
sure
exists.
Number
one.
You
don't
want
barriers,
you
don't
want
artificial
barriers
in
your
recruitment
process,
and
what
does
that
mean?
R
R
You've
got.
Do
your
job
descriptions
focus
on
the
stuff?
That
is
the
job
description,
or
does
it
make
some
sort
of
assumption
like
this
is
a
man.
This
is
this
position,
calls
for
five
manpower,
type
things,
those
sorts
of
statements
that
make
assumptions
about
who
can
do
the
job
sort
of
inherently
erode
your
recruitment
process.
That's
so
that's
one
thing
you
also
want
to.
R
We
also
want
to
make
sure
that,
when
we're
screening
for
applications
that
we're
looking
for
we're
not
seeing
the
forest
we're
not
seeing
the
trees
and
missing
the
forest,
or
vice
versa,
right
that
we're
looking
for
for
quantitative
evidence
that
the
person
could
do
the
job
as
opposed
to
did
they
check
all
the
boxes
first,
in
terms
of
like
so
one
of
the
challenges
we
in
davis
county
face,
and
at
least
when
I
was
with
the
city,
I
know
that
we
faced
that
as
well
is
one
of
the
challenges
is
having
diversity
in
in
positions
that
are
traditionally
one
gender
or
another
right
so
fill
in
the
blank
that
could
be.
R
That
could
go
six
ways
from
sunday,
but
but
how
do
you
attract
individuals
into
positions
who
are
into
positions
that
might
typically
be
be
filled
by
male
candidates
or
might
traditionally
be
filled
by
female
candidates?
R
Internship
programs
are
great
for
positions
that
are
hard
to
fill
or
for
positions
where
people
coming
out
of
high
school
might
not
necessarily
know.
Oh,
what
is
it,
for
example,
that
a
planner
does
or
what
is
it
really
like
to
be
a
fire
person,
or
you
know
those
sorts
of
things
to
actively
look
for
ways
to
engage
with
the
community
to
bring
those
people
into
into
your
organization,
and-
and
that
has
to
be
done-
and
this
is
a
really
important
point
to
me-
sorry
hr
can't
do
that
by
themselves.
R
R
C
R
C
All
right,
I
I
I
think
you
know
I
I
was
a
staffer
from
2005
to
2013,
maybe
or
12.,
so
I
I've
seen
the
evolution
of
salt
lake
city
in
terms
of
hr
in
terms
of
diversity
in
terms
of
opportunities
and
that
the
city
provided
for
their
employees
to
you
know
to
improve.
I
was
a
recipient
of
that.
We
know
when
we're
allowed
to.
You
know
to
go
and
go
back
to
school.
You
know
and
get
trained
further,
and
so
I
I
I've
seen
salt
lake
city
in
a
very
positive
light.
C
Now,
as
a
council
member
we're
looking
at
equity,
especially
right
now
equity,
how
do
we
are
as
equitable
as
possible
in
all
the
things
that
we
do,
and
so
I
would
be
really
interested
you
know
in
in
you
know,
in
seeing
salt
lake
city
once
again
stay
you
know,
take
that
step
forward
and
make
sure
that
the
jobs
that
people
are
performing
regardless
of
their
gender,
are
being
compensated
fairly
right.
So
that's
the
one
thing
that
I
think
women.
C
You
know
we
feel
sometimes
that
there's
some
disparities
like
we're
doing
the
same
job,
but
we're
getting
paid
less.
You
know,
and
so
and
then
of
course
you
know
we
wanted
to
involve
more
women,
you
know
into
into
leadership
positions
and
all
that
stuff.
So
I'm
I'm
wondering
if
that's
something
you
worked
on
or
you're
hoping
to
work
towards.
I
know
council,
member
fowler
and
myself.
We
already
asked
for
this
next
compensation
plan
to
see
where
we're
at
and
see
where
we
can
improve.
Yes,.
R
Yes
to
to
the
things
that
you
said,
as
as
you
were
asking
that
question
so
looking
at
the
compensation
plan
is
an
essential
element
to
understanding,
are
people
paid
fairly
and
specifically,
are
women
paid
fairly
and
equal,
so
the
standard
we're
looking
for
is
equal
pay
for
equal
work
right.
The
city
has
an
advantage
in
some
respects
in
many
respects,
because
the
individuals
whose
compensation
plan
is
outlined
in
the
union,
a
union
memorandum
of
understanding
how
that
absolutely
defined
right.
R
If
you
are
a
firefighter
or
fire
person
with
seven
years
of
experience,
your
pay
rate
is
going
to
be
x
and
doesn't
make
any
difference
if
you're,
a
woman
or
if
you're,
a
man
or
whatever,
what
matters
is
your
tenure
and
the
position.
So
that's
a
real
big
advantage
that
the
city
has
in
terms
of
maintaining
pay
equity.
R
So
I'm
I'm
a
personal
believer
that
you
actually
have
to
get
down
and
look
at
it
that
at
a
granular
level
right
so
you
have
to
say
and-
and
so
I
would
have
my
staffs-
I
would
say
to
them
at
that
time.
There
were
consultants
assigned
to
the
apartments,
and
I
would
say
I
want
you
to
go,
look
and
identify
where
we
have
issues.
R
That's
one
thing
to
do.
Another
thing
to
do
is
have
really
super
good
data
about
what
what
compensation
should
be
right,
because
because
we
can't
do
the
right
thing,
if
we
aren't
sure
what
the
what
the
right
thing
to
do
is
and
when
it
comes
to
determining
that
what
you're
looking
for
as
a
compensation
person
is,
is
market
data?
What
does
the
market
say
right
and,
and
then
you
make
you
make
reasoned
decisions.
R
The
important
piece
about
that
was
that
we
watched
it
all
the
time
and
if
it
started
to
slip
we
would
fix
it.
The
other
thing
that
we
would
do
is
we
would
work
with
hiring
officials
throughout
the
city,
and
we
would
basically
said
to
him
before
you
make
an
offer
to
this
person.
You
need
to
be
talking
to
us,
because
we
need
to
be
making
sure
that
your
offer
is
going
to
maintain
equity
for
the
people
who
are
in
that
position.
G
I
Maybe
I
was
here
with
deb
before
welcome
back
deb.
I'm
super
excited
for
you
you're
ever
the
professional.
I
was
expecting
you
to
be
like
a
welcome
home
ceremony
during
this
interview
and
it
hasn't
been
you've
been
so
professional
in
bringing
you
know
your
ideas
and
I
look
forward
to
you
know
the
future
budget.
So
we
can
actually
hear
how
you
implement
what
you're
looking
at
doing
so
welcome
back.
A
Thank
you
dad
any
other
questions
from
anyone.
A
Okay,
great
well!
Thank
you.
Deb
we'll
go
ahead
and
put
your
name
forward
for
confirmation
at
our
formal
meeting.
R
A
Council
members
next
is
the
and
nixon
agenda
item
number
11
is
a
board
appointment
to
the
utah
performing
arts
center
agency
or
and
and
the
nominee
is
danny
walls
our
own
danny
wells
from
rda
danny.
You
probably
don't
need
to
tell
us
about
yourself
but
you're,
welcome
to.
If
you
want
to
talk
about
yourself
in
this
position
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
for
questions.
Q
I
appreciate
that
mr
chair
members
of
the
council
good
to
see
you.
I
was
really
trying
not
to
have
you
have
to
talk
to
me
today
by
not
having
an
rda
meeting,
but
then
this
got
scheduled.
So
here
I
am
sorry
you
get
to
deal
with
me
again.
Q
I
do
also
want
to
start
by
saying
thank
you
for
having
ben
colander's
appointment
on
the
same
night,
because
that's
the
most
dressed
up,
we've
seen
ben
in
six
months,
so
that
was
good
to
know
that
he
still
had
a
suit
and
a
shirt
that
that
he
could
wear,
and
so
I
apologize
that
I
only
upgraded
to
a
collared
shirt
for
this,
but
I
do
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here,
as
you
said,
I
would
assume
most
of
you
know
by
now
who
I
am
in
my
role
as
the
chief
operating
officer
for
the
redevelopment
agency,
and
so
I
won't
get
into
my
background
or
details
on
that
unless
there
are
questions,
but
I'm
honored
to
be
in
this
position
and
follow
through
on
what
I
think
has
been
an
rda
appointment
since
the
beginning
of
yupaka,
and
so
within
that
realm.
Q
I
would
just
say
that
I
think
it's
an
honor
and
important
to
maintain
that,
because,
along
with
the
counterparts
within
the
administration
and
the
council,
I
think
the
city's
representation
on
this
board
is
vital
to
have
that
partnership
and
continued
coordination
with
the
county
as
far
as
managing
and
operating
the
eccles
theater.
So
unless
there
are
any
specific
questions
for
that,
that's
all
I
really
was
prepared
to
say
so.
Thank
you.
A
Any
other
questions
or
comments
from
anybody
amy
of
course
go
ahead.
A
A
Hey:
okay,
moving
on
to
board
appointment
to
the
business
advisory
board
from
alfonso
burrito
alfonso.
Are
you
with
us.
E
Yes,
I'm
here
excellent.
A
E
For
the
last
20
years
I
moved
from
mexico,
I
have
four
children
and
we
started
doing
business.
My
wife
and
me
my
partner
for
35
years
10
years
ago,
and
we
know
all
the
you
know
the
link
that
you
had
to
go
through
to
get
in
the
business
as
a
business
owners.
E
We
experience
everything,
you
name
it,
and
so
now,
after
all
these
years,
we
can
say
that
we
learn
how
can
do
business,
and
so
we
have
a
lot
of
experience
that
we
want
to
share
with
all
with
our
community
in
the
rose
park,
glendale
area,
where
we
do
business.
E
Have
a
few
we
have
cell
phones,
we
have
a
restaurant
santo
taco
and
we
have
also
money
transfer,
so
we
hubbled
or
people
leaving
a
key
working
here
and
they
are
sending
money
to
the
their
original
countries.
E
So,
for
the
most
part
they
send
money
back
to
homes
like
mexico
is
the
most
the
one
that
we
or
customer
base,
and
then
we
have
all
central,
south
and
south
america,
okay,
yeah,
and
look
at
those
three
different
businesses
in
the
area
over
rose
park,
glendale
hi
anna.
A
Okay,
does
anybody
have
any
questions
from
mr
burrito
councilmember
morris.
C
I
I
don't
have
a
question
for
alfonso.
I
I
just
wanna
to
say
how
great
he's
been
to
our
community,
as
you
know,
as
a
business
person
as
a
mentor
as
the
energy
that
he
that
he
has
in
his
businesses
and
also
for
choosing
the
west
side
to
you
know
in
an
area
where
it
needs
development
and
him
going
there
and
you
know,
building
a
beautiful
restaurant
is
called
santo.
C
Tacos
you
know
and
and
helping
the
community
develop
in
a
positive
way,
so
I'm
excited
for
him
to
represent
district
one
at
the
business
advice
reward
I
work.
I
worked
with
him
in
the
past.
He
also
used
to
have-
or
maybe
he
still
has,
it's
called
fuego
food
truck.
E
C
I
think
early
in
the
pandemic,
I
came
back
guys
with
some
pozole
and
I
showed
you
one
of
our
meetings
that
was
from
santo
tacos.
That's
on
thursdays
week.
Wink
go
get
some.
It's
awesome.
Thank
you
alfonso
for
your
time.
I
know
you're
gonna.
A
Great
well,
thank
you,
mr
burrito.
We
appreciate
you
being
here
and
and
your
willingness
to
serve
salt
lake
city
we'll
go
ahead
and
put
your
name
on
our
consent
agenda
for
our
formal
meeting
tonight.
You
do
not
need
to
be
there,
but
you
are
welcome
to
join
us
for
the
meeting.
If
you
would
like,
I.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
okay,
council
members.
That
brings
us
to.
We
have
a
written
briefing
on
sustainability
projects
and
then
report
the
vice
chair
or
chair.
I
don't
have
anything
to
report
andrew.
Do
you
have
anything?
Okay,
then
anything
from
the
executive
director.
A
Thank
you
and
then
we
do
have
a
tentative
closed
session,
but
we're
going
to
be
doing
that
after
the
formal
is
that
right.
E
A
I
think
I'd
rather
let
people
have
a
few
minutes
between
now
and
our
formal
meeting
at
six
and
then
don't
forget
everybody.
We
have
we're
gonna
try
to
get
through
the
formal
meeting
in
an
hour,
but
if
not,
we
have
to
break
do
the
truth
and
taxation
at
the
time
certain
which
is
seven
o'clock,
and
then
we
can
come
back
and
finish
our
formal
agenda,
but
so
are
we
are
we
doing
a
different
meeting?
Invite
or
do
we
stay
on
here.
E
A
Okay,
all
right
thanks!
Everybody!
Please,
please
be
on
time
tonight,
since
we
are
on
a
really
short
schedule.
Unlike
other
nights,
so
see
you
all
at
six.