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B
There,
if
I
suddenly
disappear,
I
am
counting
on
james
and
or
anyone
else
to
step
in
so
appreciate
everybody,
if
I
can
figure
out
what
I'm
doing
that'd
be
also
nice
but
hold.
Please.
B
We
are
ready
to
start
welcome
to
today's
city
council
meeting
to
help
reduce
the
transmission
of
covid19.
We
have
returned
to
holding
our
meetings.
Virtually
this
return
to
online
meetings
follows
an
increase
in
covet
19
cases
and
updated
mask
requirements.
We
are
closely
monitoring
the
situation
and
the
council
will
return
with
hybrid
or
in-person
meetings
when
appropriate
and
safer
for
the
public
and
city
employees.
B
B
Your
feedback
is
always
welcome
and
you
can
share
with
the
city
council
anytime
by
emailing.
Us
excuse
me
by
mailing
us
at
po
box,
one
four,
five,
seven,
four,
seven,
six
one:
four:
five:
four:
seven:
six
salt
lake
city,
utah,
eight
four
one,
one,
four
emailing
us
at
council.com
at
slcgov.com
or
by
calling
our
24-hour
comment
line
at
801-535-7654.
C
My
apologies,
madam
chair,
the
mayor.
We
got
her
the
wrong
link,
so
we
are
getting
her
the
right
link
and
she
will
be
in
shortly,
but
I
don't
know
if,
while
we're
waiting
for
her
to
join,
if
oh
there
she
is
hi.
Madam
mayor,
sorry
about
that,
except
we
are
on
your
agenda
item.
D
D
As
of
yesterday,
when
I
talked
to
dr
gadson,
the
superintendent,
he
shared
with
me
that
they're
still
seeing
99.8
compliance
and
they're
working
with
the
individuals
and
their
families
who
are
not
complying,
and
we
we
appreciate
that
one-on-one
personal
management
and
conversation
level
approach
that
they're
taking
they're,
also
seeing
that
the
as
educators
they
see
that
the
masks
aren't
impacting
the
student's
ability
to
engage
in
their
learning
or
prohibiting
their
social
activities.
D
I've
also
really
been
encouraged
by
the
parents
and
the
kids
that
I've
heard
from
in
the
last
several
weeks.
As
I'm
sure
you
have
also
about
the
that
safety
that
they
feel
and
the
assurance
of
being
able
to
send
their
kids
to
school,
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide
if
you'd
like
it,
just
keeps
going
upward
and
we're
we're
seeing
increases
across
the
state
in
in
unvaccinated
age.
Population
increase
in
the
in
the
black,
the
virus,
sorry
and
almost
5
1500
kids
in
the
last
week,
testing
positive
compared
to
just
about
100.
D
So
this
table
shows
that
the
case
rate
per
10
000
population
for
each
district
over
the
last
14
days.
The
health
department
is
working
on
putting
this
information
on
their
dashboard,
so
that
people
can
better
understand
how
different
vaccination
rates
in
zip
codes
are
either
reflecting
or
impacting
the
school
cases
in
those
areas,
and
it's
important
to
look
at
school
aged
cases
because,
since
school's
been
in
session
for
over
two
weeks
now,
the
health
department
concludes
that
most
school
age
cases
will
likely
be
school
associated.
D
So
before
we
had
two
weeks
of
data
and
exposure
with
the
kids,
it
was
harder
to
make
the
association
that
they
could
have
been
exposed
in
the
classrooms,
in
addition
to
a
14-day
snapshot.
We
should
also
continue
to
look
at
that
big
picture.
Measuring
total
cases
in
the
school
year
is
important
to
assess
missed
days
of
in-person
learning
for
cases
and
potentially
their
close
contacts
who
also
miss
school.
D
The
health
department
is
also
working
on
understanding
testing
patterns
in
each
of
the
school
district,
so
differences
in
testing
patterns
will
contribute
to
the
number
of
cases
that
are
identified.
For
example,
jordan,
school
district
does
not
yet
have
a
height
a
school
testing
site,
but
other
school
districts
are
offering
testing
multiple
times
a
week.
So
it's
important
to
keep
in
mind
that
layering
prevention
strategies
is
key
to
preventing
spread
among
unvaccinated
populations.
D
D
There's
a
clinic
coming
up
next
week
at
rose
park
elementary
school
anybody,
12
and
older,
can
get
that
vaccine
and,
if
possible,
they
encourage
people
to
make
an
appointment,
there's
a
phone
number
and
a
website
there.
This
is
also
part
of
the
distribution
of
coats
and
shoes
that
we
do
annually,
so
we're
hoping
and
encouraging
families
to
come
out
from
4-7
p.m.
Next,
wednesday.
D
D
The
council
adopted
a
resolution
back
in
2017
to
host
initial
conversations
that
took
place
under
the
becker
administration,
so
this
initiative
has
been
in
the
works
for
some
time
now,
but
covid
19
challenges
and
it
continues
to
toss.
The
best
laid
plans
on
the
floor,
as
our
case
counts,
continue
to
rise.
D
The
nlc
is
weighing
their
options
as
it
relates
to
the
upcoming
conference,
and
one
of
those
options
is
a
100
virtual
option.
The
nlc
is
having
ongoing
conversations
with
many
salt
lake
city
and
national
vendors,
who
have
been
signed
up
for
the
event
and
one
major
consideration
in
their
negotiations,
especially
our
local
businesses,
is
if
the
nlc
is
able
to
return
in
2025
for
an
in-person
event.
D
F
This
first
slide
is
when
we
see
often
the
shelter
usage
in
the
last
week
first
week
of
september,
you
can
see
that
on
average
we're
at
91
percent
capacity,
each
night
you'll
see
traditionally
is
higher
at
the
women's
resource
center,
the
king
resource
center
and
the
miller,
and
then
the
men's
resource
center
in
south
salt
lake
tends
to
have
a
slightly
lower
average
usage
based
on
a
number
of
factors,
but
most
of
those
beds
are
generally
reserved
for
somebody
who
said
they're
going
to
come
in
and
maybe
miss
that
night
for
various
reasons,
transportation
or
other
work
factors
next
slide.
F
We've
had
upcoming
resource
fairs.
The
next
one
is
at
madison
park
on
the
23rd
in
the
morning
and
then
also
kayak
court
on
the
27th
you'll,
see
and
still
determining
where
on
the
river
that'll
be
held.
F
A
new
thing
is
the
high
utilizer
court
date.
This
is
something
that
the
salt,
lake
city,
justice,
court
and
those
judges
have
worked
very
hard,
their
staff
to
figure
out
a
way
to
bring
people
into
the
justice
system
to
handle
their
cases
in
a
more
efficient
way
for
them.
We
talk
about
high
utilizers,
we're
usually
generally
talking
about
people
with
at
least
five
active
issues
going
on
charges
and
oftentimes.
It
overlaps
with
those
in
the
resource,
centers
or
unsheltered
population,
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
F
F
Care
of
this
is
a
much
more
hopefully
consistent
way
to
help
people
access
the
justice
system
to
take
care
of
their
charges,
which
is
a
big
deal
getting
into
housing,
jobs,
everything
else
and
just
general
anxiety
issues,
because
for
a
lot
of
folks,
it
does
weigh
heavy
on
them
when
they
have
outstanding
warrants
or
multiple
charges.
They
don't
know
how
to
take
care
of,
or
just
get
overwhelmed
by
so
really
excited
about
that
on.
G
B
G
See
any
questions
I
don't
have
questions
for
andrew,
but
I
do
have
questions
for
the
mayor
about
the
the
numbers
that
she
shared
with
us
about
the
schools
and
and
and
the
the
positive
effects
that
the
you
know
where
the
mass
monday
has
had,
which
is
amazing,
and
it
was
predictable,
at
least
for
me.
I
was
wondering
so
I
think.
Last
time
I
asked
I
I
made
a
comment
about
last
year.
G
We
kind
of
had
this
game
plan
of
the
masking
and
and
some
thresholds
that
in
general
we
were
going
to
reach
so
that
we
can
start
gathering
together
again
as
vaccinations
were
coming.
You
know
coming
in
and
then
at
some
point
we
had
like
an
end
game
for
all
of
that.
What's
our
plan
for
for
the
school,
the
for
the
school-aged
children,
how
you
know
how
long
may,
like
the
public,
expect
that
that
you
know
we
we
might
have
to
have
mass
mandates
as
it's
showing
results.
D
Yeah-
and
we
talked
about
this
three
or
so
weeks
ago,
when
I
put
the
order
in
place
that
we've
been
working
with
dr
dunn
and
the
county
health
department
on
the
reality
that
it's
not
one
single
metric,
such
as
vaccination
rates
of
of
those
who
are
12
and
older,
isn't
necessarily
the
only
metric
that
we
should
be
using
to
determine
whether
or
not
the
12
and
older
student
population
needs
to
continue.
D
That
includes,
and
I
encourage
you
again
to
invite
dr
dunn
to
come
and
answer
these
questions
from
the
health
perspective,
but
she
at
the
time
encouraged
looking
at
the
community
transmission
rate
in
those
zip
codes
or
the
areas
where
those
students
reside
and,
as
I
mentioned
today,
there
are
a
number
of
other
factors
and
also
the
delay
in
testing
or
the
delay
in
reporting.
That's
being
reported
in
the
newspaper
today.
That's
increasing
the
possibility
of
greater
transmission
because
of
the
delay
in
information
sharing.
D
So
that
is
a
question
that
I
still
encourage
you
to
ask
our
health
department
officials
and
that
we're
working
with
with
them
certainly
getting
vaccines
available
for
kids
under
12
years
old
and
then
having
that
vaccination
rate
increase
where
we
started
the
school
district,
with
less
than
50
percent
of
our
eligible
student
population
being
fully
vaccinated
was
not
even
close
to
safe
enough.
So
let's
have
that
conversation
with
us
with
the
health
department.
B
All
right
thanks
everyone,
any
other
questions
for
the
mayor.
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here,
madam
mayor.
As
always,
we
appreciate
it
and
we
will
move
on
to
item
number
two,
which
is
an
update
from
allison
roland
regarding
the
racial
equity
and
policing
commission.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I'm
just
a
reminder
that
last
september
7th
you
adopted
the
rep
commission
ordinance,
so
the
rep
commission
is
now
formally
part
of
the
same
framework
that
all
your
other
commissions
and
boards
are
part
of,
and
then
that,
on
september,
22nd
you'll
have
the
opportunity
to
vote
on
the
current
commission
members,
basically
approving
them
to
remain
on
the
commission
for
terms
that
will
be
staggered
eventually,
but
but
start
out
as
two
years,
so
that
will
be
on
september
21st
we've
provided
well.
H
The
administration
has
provided
that
information
in
a
transmittal
and
that's
where
we
are
right
now.
Oh
one
more
thing,
I
believe
the
first
meeting
of
the
new
rep
commission
will
be
on
september
29th,
but
we'll
we'll
give
you
information
on
that
as
the
date
becomes
closer.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
allison,
council
members.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
for
allison
great?
That
brings
us
to
agenda
item
number
three,
which
is
budget.
Amendment
number
two
yeah
budget,
amendment
number
two:
for
fiscal
year,
2021
2022
we
have
ben
ludke
from
council
staff,
mary
beth
thompson,
the
chief
financial
officer,
john
bike
city,
director
andrew
johnston,
the
director
of
homeless
policy
and
outreach
ben
colander,
the
director
of
economic
development
and
jessica
thiessen,
the
urban
affairs
director
at
the
downtown
alliance.
B
I
I
I
I
I
This
is
on
north
temple
and
the
rio
grande
neighborhood.
The
requested
one-time
funding
would
continue
both
pilot
programs
through
the
end
of
the
current
fiscal
year.
In
budget
amendment
number
four
of
fiscal
year
21.
This
is
last
fall.
The
council
approved
606
thousand
dollars.
Using
federal,
cares,
act,
funding
to
start
the
two
pilot
programs.
I
I
Yeah,
that's
the
one.
So
this
shows
the
current
coverage
area,
which
has
six
ambassadors.
They
work
monday
through
saturday
7
a.m,
to
11
p.m,
in
the
warmer
months
and
7
a.m
to
7pm
in
the
colder
months,
the
two
pilot
programs
add
12
ambassadors,
six,
each
six
in
the
rio
grande
and
six
on
north
temple.
I
I
I
Them
are
one-time
funding
versus
ongoing
costs.
How
the
pilot
programs
would
be
funded
after
the
current
fiscal
year
and
how
the
expanded
programs
are
being
evaluated
for
success.
So
what
metrics
are
available
to
compare
the
different
areas,
and
we
have
jessica
fising
from
the
downtown
alliance
and
director
andrew
johnston
from
the
mayor's
office
available
to
discuss
this
item
as
well
as
director
ben
collander,
since
the
saa
process
is
handled
by
the
department
of
economic
development.
I
J
I
This
will
allow
for
needed
delays
in
the
foothill
trails
plan
for
greater
public
processes
and
reviews.
It
will
move
the
central
plant
boiler
funding
from
general
fund
dollars
to
bond
funding.
Note
this
is
an
older
bond.
It's
not
the
recently
proposed
58
million
dollar
bond,
which
has
a
briefing
next
on
the
agenda.
I
I
I
I
I
Individuals
living
in
rv
and
car
camping
situations
are
not
included
in
the
annual
point
in
time
count.
But
anecdotally.
The
administration
estimates
about
a
hundred
such
vehicles
exist
in
the
city
at
any
given
time
if
the
funding
is
approved
and
the
administration
expects
about
50
vehicles
could
have
minor
repairs
or
be
towed
this
fiscal
year.
I
J
F
F
We
also
know
that
technically
by
federal
standards,
they're
not
homeless,
it's
their
house.
This
is
mobile.
The
issue
we
run
into
is
best
practices.
Nationwide
have
been
essentially
like
koat
campground
concepts
where
there
would
be
a
long-term
ability
to
hook
up
to
electricity,
water
and
sanitation
stuff.
F
We
don't
have
that
in
the
city
and
it
also
opens
the
door
and
the
question
is:
we
know,
there's
more
than
100
people
doing
this
across
the
county
in
the
state,
and
we
know
that
opening
that
up
would
mean
a
much
larger
number
of
folks
would
come
in
and
with
no
exit
strategy,
necessarily
because
this
is
their
housing,
so
you'd
be
setting
up
a
permanent
campground
for
this.
If
we
did
that,
so
we've
chosen
at
this
point
not
to
pursue
that
concept.
F
So
that's
why
tow
companies
are
hesitant
to
get
involved
one
because
nobody
wants
to
tow
a
vehicle
with
somebody
inside
of
it
and
two,
because
they
don't
make
the
money
back
on
being
bought.
They
bought
out
of
their
other
lot.
So
there
that's
been
one
of
the
major
barriers
to
helping
enforcement
be
able
to
enforce
the
48-hour
ordinance.
We've
got.
F
Exactly
and
so
there
are
situations
where,
if
you
did
a
minor
repair
on
a
vehicle,
they
could
drive
it
away
a
battery.
We
had
a
water
pump
recently
in
one
vehicle
and
things
like
that,
where
sometimes
the
owner
of
the
vehicle
could
do
it
themselves
if
they
had.
You
know
a
little
bit
of
funding
to
do
that,
so
it's
cheaper
than
going
through
the
towing
the
trauma
of
taking
their
author
possession.
F
Somebody
has
to
dismantle
it,
get
into
the
dump
those
kind
of
things
so
we'd
rather
go
that
direction
if
possible,
but
we
also
need
to
help
people
follow
the
ordinance
we've
got
on
the
books
as
we
continue
to
pursue
longer
term
solutions.
Essentially,
to
this.
F
Well,
the
estimates
we've
been
given
for
a
tow
and
dismantle
in
the
high
end
is
about
two
thousand
dollars.
If
that
was
what
we
looked
at
then
50
vehicles,
we
think
we
can
do
a
lot
more
than
that.
We're
saying
50
up
front
minimum,
but
we
think
with
repairs
alone,
could
go
much
higher
as
far
as
number
of
vehicles
for
a
lower
cost.
J
Thanks
andrew,
I
really
appreciate
it
any
other
questions
for
andrew
in
regards
to
this
okay
ben.
I
I
The
county
has
requested
that
the
remaining
funding
be
used
to
provide
housing
for
individuals
within
the
city,
specifically
those
who
desire
mental
health
or
substance
abuse
treatment.
Sometimes,
when
someone
is
interested
in
a
treatment
program,
a
bed
may
not
be
available,
but
the
funding
could
still
be
used
to
provide
housing
for
them.
I
I
I
The
next
item
iq
is
reversing
the
recapture
of
150
000
of
class
c.
This
is
gas
tax
funding
that
was
originally
taken
in
the
annual
budget
and
added
to
cip.
The
administration
reported.
The
projects
were
completed
under
budget,
but
later
in
the
summer,
engineering
determined
that,
while
construction
had
been
completed,
there
were
lagging
invoices
that
had
not
been
processed
for
payment,
so
some
of
the
funding
was
still
needed
if
any
of
those
funds
remain
after
the
invoices
are
processed
they'd
be
available
for
recapture
next
fiscal
year.
I
Item
i3:
this
is
also
related
to
cip,
it's
38
000
from
completed
cip
projects.
The
council
spent
these
funds
last
month,
so
this
is
the
budgeting
step
to
formalize
the
adopted
cip
I-4
is
also
a
cip
follow-up.
This
is
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
arpa.
The
american
rescue
plan
act
for
annex
building
renovations.
I
This
was
a
cip
application
from
odyssey
house.
The
council
straw
polled
fully
funding
this
application
using
arpa
dollars.
It
would
significantly
renovate
the
city-owned
building
at
623,
south
200
east.
The
renovations
include
fully
replacing
the
roof
bracing
the
building's
foundation,
replacing
all
the
windows
and
doors
and
several
other
improvements.
I
I
I
K
Oh
thanks
just
a
point
of
clarification
for
me,
so
the
section
I
is
council
added
items
but
you're
saying
these
are
things
that
the
administration
has
requested.
Is
that
just
because
the
administration
became
aware
of
this
need
after
transmitting
the
budget
amendment,
and
so
the
council
is
adding
it
is
that?
What
is
that?
How?
I
should
understand
this,
but
it
is
that's
correct.
The
administration
is
supportive
of
and
and
identified
as
a
need.
I
K
B
J
F
Sure
I
think
michelle
hoon
was
on
as
well
a
moment
ago
when
we
got
information.
I
believe
last
week
about
the
potential
contamination
we
did
reach
out
to
the
voa
outreach
teams,
the
road
home,
as
well
as
at
least
one
other
group
who
have
interactions
with
those
who
run
shelter
in
that
area
and
pass
the
information
onto
them
to
help
folks
move
away
to
stay
away
and
give
them
as
much
information
as
we
had
at
the
time
for
their
safety,
and
I
believe
we
passed
on
the
resolution
information
today
to
them
as
well.
F
D
E
Do
yeah
so
as
part
of
the
as
part
of
the
incident
command
structure
that
was
involved
with
the
with
the
pond
contamination,
the
community
connection
center
team
actually
went
out
to
engage
and
offer
shelter
to
individuals
who
were
living
in
the
park.
I
know
that
they
encountered
a
few
people
who
were
interested
in
shelter
and
who
were
connected
with
resources
at
that
time.
J
I
There's
actually
two
more
items,
one
of
which
is
another
request
from
the
administration
I-6.
This
is
a
request
for
52
thousand
dollars
for
a
full-time
minutes
and
records
clerk
position
in
the
recorder's
office.
The
employee
would
be
a
resource
to
both
branches
of
the
city,
mayor's
office
and
the
city
council
office.
I
I
I
The
last
item:
this
is
a
request
by
the
administration
for
the
council
to
add
it.
It
would
be
a
re-scope
of
the
200
000
that
was
in
the
annual
budget
for
the
community
connection
center
or
ccc
to
relocate.
The
line
item
specifically
included
lease
payments,
repairs
and
renovations,
including
furniture,
but
it
didn't
include
utilities.
I
B
E
Madam
chair,
yes
cindy,
if
you
in
in
the
transition
we,
you
might
not
have
heard
all
of
this,
but
ben
just
mentioned
the
idea
of
a
straw
poll
on
that
social
work
office
space.
That
would
allow
them
to
use
those
funds.
They
are
on
a
tight
time
frame
because
of
the
building
ownership
and
a
few
other
things,
so
they
it
would
really
help
if
you
don't
mind
giving
them
your
feedback
about
whether
you're,
okay
with
them
spending
the
money
more
broadly
on
just
expenses
associated
with
having
that
space.
G
B
Is
that
sufficient
for
recorders
purposes
and
everybody's
purposes?
I
think
yeah.
B
B
Perfect.
Okay,
thank
you
ben
any
questions
on
that
council
members.
I
see
none!
Let's
move
on
agenda
item
number
four
is
a
resolution
regarding
the
sales
and
access
excise
tax
revenue
bonds
and
we
have
ben
again
with
us,
I
believe,
hi,
ben
and
all
of
our
department
heads
that
are
interested
in
this
bond.
B
I
B
I
It
can
certainly
be
called
whatever
the
council
wants,
since
it's
you're
in
the
driver's
seat
on
this
one.
So
there
was
a
briefing
back
in
june.
This
is
the
second
briefing
on
the
bond
proposal
and
remember:
there's
no
legal
deadline
for
the
council
to
authorize,
adjust
or
decline.
The
proposed
bond.
I
I
I
I
So,
if
you're
interested
in
reviewing
the
cost
estimates,
you
could
look
at
increasing
the
project.
Specific
contingency
funding
or
another
option
would
be
a
general
contingency
reserve
available
to
any
of
the
projects
in
order
for
the
council
to
adopt
the
bond
and
allow
it
to
proceed,
it's
a
sales
tax
revenue
bond,
so
only
the
council
approval
is
needed.
This
is
different
than
a
general
obligation
bond
or
a
geo
bond
where
it
goes
on
the
ballot
and
it
needs
to
be
approved
by
voters.
I
So
with
that
why
this
bond
is
being
proposed,
now
is
related
to
an
older
bond
being
paid
off.
It
was
approximately
80
million
dollars.
The
last
payment
was
in
fiscal
year
21,
and
it
was
5.3
million
dollars
paid
every
year.
The
annual
budget.
This
year
there
is
3.6
million
dollars,
that's
held
in
cip
to
make
the
first
year
payment
on
this
bond.
I
I
I
The
table
is
also
organized
by
the
three
broad
categories.
The
first
category
is
the
facilities
and
real
estate,
and
the
first
item
is
the
fisher
mansion
there's
actually
two
line
items.
The
first
is
seven
and
a
half
million
dollars,
and
this
would
make
the
building
ready
for
public
or
private
use,
and
the
second
item
is
one
and
a
half
million
dollars
also
for
fisher
mansion.
I
I
Next
is
another
three
million
for
improvements
to
the
smith's
ballpark
and
the
facilities
division,
uses
an
industry
best
practice
to
identify
all
the
deferred
maintenance
and
the
recommended
improvements
for
every
building
in
the
city.
When
I
checked
in
with
them,
they
said
the
total
deferred
maintenance
and
recommended
improvements
at
the
ballpark
is
almost
13
million
dollars.
I
The
next
item
is
required
by
rocky
mountain
power
and
they've.
Given
the
city
a
deadline,
it
needs
to
be
done
by
2024.,
it's
an
upgrade
to
the
electrical
transformer
at
the
central
plant.
If
you
remember
in
the
budget
amendment
before
this,
the
central
plant
provides
heating
for
city
fall,
the
main
library,
the
leonardo
and
the
public
safety
building.
G
J
Yes,
just
a
quick
question
for
the
administration:
do
we
have
and
what
is
the
the
timeline
for
purposing
or
looking
for
rfps
for
the
fisher
mansion?
I
mean
it
kind
of
makes
sense
to
do
this
all
at
once,
while
we're
actually
investing
the
money,
so
somebody
can
see
oh
well,
the
city's
willing
to
play
ball-
let's,
let's,
let's
also
invest
some
private
money
into
it
too.
If
they
have
other
uses
for
it.
You
know
what
I
mean
is
looking
at
at
doing
something
with
both
those
facilities.
I
E
I
I've
got
the
question.
I
don't
have
an
answer:
okay,
but
I've
noted
it
to
follow
up
with
the
administration.
I
When
similar
questions
have
been
asked,
of
course,
the
answer
depends
on
what
is
the
building
going
to
be
used
for?
Is
it
going
to
be
restoring
it
to
be?
You
know
a
public
like
a
facility
that
has
the
warm
springs
bumped
into
the
building.
Would
it
be
office,
space
various
end
users,
but
we
can
at
least
ask
for
those
high
level
estimates
for
the
bond
purposes.
E
I
All
right,
if
there
are
more
questions,
jump
in
as
we
go,
we
were
at
the
urban
wood
reutilization.
This
would
be
the
new
building
and
a
new
program.
It
would
likely
require
one
or
two
full-time
city
employees
to
operate
the
equipment,
as
well
as
to
move
the
resulting
wood
products
around
the
city.
I
The
purpose
is
to
recycle
wood.
So
when
the
windstorm
hit
last
year,
all
of
that
debris
was
hauled
out
and
most
of
it
was
taken
to
the
landfill.
If
this
program
existed,
some
of
that
would
have
been
repurposed
for
either
benches
tables
mulch
that
could
be
used
in
parks.
So
it's
diverting
and
recycling
wood
material
away
from
the
landfill.
I
I
This
would
create
a
single
quiet
zone
under
federal
regulations
and
the
benefit
to
the
residential
neighborhoods.
Next
to
those
crossings
is
the
trains
would
not
be
blowing
their
horns
in
the
middle
of
the
night.
Without
these
safety
upgrades
at
the
crossing,
the
regulations
require
the
trains
to
blow
their
horns.
In
case
someone
is
on
the
tracks
or
approach
approaching
the
tracks
when
the
train
is
going
to
cross
them.
I
I
I
I
Pioneer
park
has
a
5.2
million
dollar
recommendation
and
back
in
fiscal
year
20
the
council
approved
almost
three
and
a
half
million
dollars
for
the
same
purpose
and
the
public
engagement
to
determine
what
amenities
should
be
created
where
in
the
park
and
how
they
should
work
together.
That's
currently
ongoing
for
the
three
and
a
half
million
dollars
that
exists.
I
I
The
funding
would
not
be
used
for
property
acquisition
and
the
council
previously
funded
1.1
million
dollars
to
implement
phase
one
of
the
trails
back
in
fiscal
year
19
and
then
last
month,
an
additional
1.7
million
dollars.
So
there
would
be
eight
million
dollars
total
for
the
foothill
trails
plan.
I
I
I
Allen
park
has
1.3
million
dollars
proposed,
and
this
would
be
specifically
for
improvements
to
the
historic
structures,
including
utilities,
bringing
power
and
allowing
them
to
be
used,
structures
and
safe
if
the
public
were
to
go
inside,
the
city
purchased
allen
park
for
seven
and
a
half
million
dollars.
Two
years
ago
the
council
approved
450
000
for
fencing,
adding
public
pathways
and
some
consultant
services,
and
last
month,
cip,
included
420
000.
I
The
last
two
items:
1.2
million
for
public
lands,
multilingual
wayfinding
signs.
There
are
not
specific
locations
identified,
but
it's
estimated
about
35
signs
per
council
district,
so
250,
city-wide
and
attachment
2.
Page
2
has
a
longer
project
description
for
this
one,
it's
more
information
than
we
had
in
the
transmittal.
I
The
last
item
is
440
000
for
paddle
share
on
the
jordan
river
at
1700
south.
There
are
three
funded
boat
ramps
on
the
jordan
river
within
the
city
that
are
expected
to
be
completed
this
year.
So
there
would
be
a
total
of
four
and
you'll
notice.
The
total
is
57
million,
90
000
and
the
bond
resolution
is
for
up
to
58
million,
and
some
of
that
difference
can
include
the
consultant
fees
as
well
as
all
of
the
different
people
and
steps
involved.
In
issuing
a
bond
now
taylor.
I
The
fleet
block
is
a
great
example.
There
is
a
range
of
costs
that
could
be
involved
in
that
project
alone
and
you'll
see
in
this
list.
It
doesn't
include
maintenance
costs
and
it
doesn't
include
the
rda,
the
redevelopment
agency,
but
the
city
has
previously
taken
a
whole
city
perspective
and
leveraged
funding
from
multiple
sources,
including
the
city's
bonding
capacity,
in
order
to
complete
rda
projects
or
projects
that
affect
multiple
departments.
I
The
policy
questions
in
the
staff
report
they're
divided
into
two
sections.
The
first
section
is
project
specific
policy
questions
and
I'm
going
to
go
through
those
real,
quick.
The
first
one
is
maybe
the
most
important
why
it's
first
are
there
projects
the
council
wants
to
add
or
remove,
or
do
you
want
to
change
the
funding
level?
I
I
I
There
seems
to
be
a
conflicting
proposal
for
the
same
property,
the
urban
wood
reutilization
program
and
the
tiny
home
village.
I
The
next
question
I
think
we
already
touched
on
earlier
about
who
the
end
users
would
be
of
fisher
mansion.
The
warm
springs,
historic
plunge
in
allen
park,
there's
a
question
about
increasing
the
workload
on
city
employees
and
if
some
of
these
bond
proposals
would
result
in
the
need
for
new
full-time
employees,.
I
I
There
are
several
questions
in
the
general
policy
question
section
I'll
just
touch
on
the
first
one,
which
is
the
ability
to
spend
your
tax
exempt
funds
within
three
years,
and
this
is
a
legal
requirement.
It
comes
from
the
irs
and
the
question
is:
would
the
city
be
able
to
spend
these
funds
within
three
years,
and
some
of
the
factors
to
consider
would
be
engineering
division's
capacity
to
absorb
this
additional
workload?
The
council
added
four
positions
to
engineering
in
the
annual
budget,
but
we've
heard
that
they
are
already
at
or
near
capacity
as
a
division.
I
There's
also
the
factor
of
how
much
contractors
are
available
in
the
local
market
if
the
bond
could
be
phased
over
multiple
issuances,
which
is
a
common
strategy,
and
it's
exactly
what
we're
doing
as
a
city
with
the
streets,
reconstruction
bond,
that
87
million
dollars
is
being
issued
over
four
different
sales
and
then
the
last
one
is.
Is
there
a
risk
that
some
cip
projects
could
be
delayed
because
they
are
not
subject
to
the
three
year?
I
B
I
So
the
bond
does
not
have
a
legally
required
timeline,
so
the
council
can
discuss
this
as
you
prefer.
There
is
always
the
consideration
about.
You
know
how
favorable
the
bond
market
is
for
a
sale,
but
that's
not
something
we
can
predict.
So
the
most
important
thing
now
is
for
staff
to
hear
from
council.
What
are
your
questions?
Do
you
want
to
change
dollar
amounts
for
some
of
these
projects.
Do
you
want
to
add
or
take
away
any
of
the
projects?
B
Okay,
I
am
we'll
open
it
up
to
council
members
for
any
questions.
Comments
concerns
things
that
you
want
to
say
about
it.
I
have
some
feelings,
but
I
need
to
excuse
me
I
feel
like
I
need
to
form
them
a
little
better
and
come
back
and
maybe
have
some
small
group
meetings
about
some
of
the
proposed
projects,
but
that's
where
I'm
at
right
now,
other
council
members
anything
that
you
want
to
talk
about.
With
this
briefing.
E
I
I
C
L
E
D
The
original
reason
actually
is
that
we
didn't
want
to
to
overspend
on
and
basically
new
capital
projects,
acknowledging
the
need
that
we
have
on
a
year-to-year
basis
that
exhibits
itself
in
cip,
with
really
inadequate
resources
to
address
not
only
like
the
community-based
applications,
but
are
very
legitimate
city
based
applications,
and
so
the
my
desire
was
to
preserve
a
portion
of
that
capacity
for
the
the
o
m
of
existing
things
as
they
come
up,
and
this
was
with
the
guidance
of
of
lorna
and
a
lot
of
those
teams
who
end
up
doing
that.
Work.
E
G
Should
have
one
question,
madam
chair,
so
ben?
What
you
know
you
mentioned
about
the
like
the
price
tag
for
some
of
those
projects,
and
if
they
are,
I
don't
know
if
you
said,
if
they're
as
accurate
as
possible
or
or
how
old
they
are,
how
how
do
we
know
like
how,
as
of
today
or
as
of
three
months
ago
or
whenever
it
is
that
we've
got
numbers,
how
accurate
they
are
or
do
we
like?
I
don't
know
how
that
process
works.
This
is
a
phone
call
to
some
contracting
company.
G
We
say
we
would
like
to
do
this.
Can
you
give
me
an
estimate,
or
do
we
have
things
in
writing?
Do
they
provide
some
estimates
in
writing
that
our
staff
is
saying
okay,
this
is
what
it
costs
or
we
could
cost.
As
of
today,
we
don't
know
in
a
year,
but
as
of
today,
this
project
would
cost
you
guys
x,
amount.
I
I
That's
something
that
staff
can
work
with
the
administration
on
to
say
how
old
are
these
cost
estimates,
and
is
there
an
additional
contingency
that
should
be
built
in
for
some
of
these
or
a
reserve
for
the
whole
bond
that
all
the
projects
could
have
access
to?
So
it's
a
moving
target,
absolutely
right.
B
B
Oh
sorry,
too
many
things
going
on
a
multiplier
factor
that
you
said
okay
10
years
ago.
We
were
at
this
spot,
but
we
know
that
we're
here.
So
we
guess
by
this
multiplier
what
this
new
cost
may
sort
of
be
ish
right.
M
Council,
chair
and
and
ben
I'd
be
happy
to
come
in
and
kind
of
add
to
what's
already
been
said.
If
it's
helpful.
M
So
yes,
you're
right,
council
chair,
we,
we
do
have
rules
of
thumb
as
ben
stated.
What
we're
finding,
though,
is
that
our
traditional
rules
of
thumb,
if
we
have
a
10-year
to
your
point,
kind
of
old
estimate,
those
old
rules
of
thumb,
no
longer
apply,
so
it
used
to
be
a
two
or
three
percent
per
year
that
we
would
add
on
those
numbers
are
way
out
of
whack.
At
this
point,
I
actually
have
a
meeting
set
to
discuss
every
single
project.
M
That's
on
the
bond
list
currently
to
go
over
those
bond
estimates
and
then
to
come
back
with
some
level
of
confidence
about
where
we
feel
those
those
estimates
are
going
to
be.
But
ben's
point
is
absolutely
true.
We
have
contractors
on
especially
our
places
projects
that
are
only
holding
their
bids
open
for
24
hours,
not
even
10
days,
so
we've
got
everything
is
moving
very
quickly.
The
market
is
extremely
volatile.
M
M
G
Things
is,
I
guess,
what
I'm
trying
to
like,
prevent
or
yeah
prevent.
If
you
will
is
that,
because
I
know
these
things
that
you're
you're
saying
that
you
get
these
estimates,
are
these
estimates
in
writing
or
not?
So
we
can
keep
track.
You
know
in
the
future
when
you
know,
if
somebody
has
questions
about,
were
those
numbers
true
or
not,
you
know.
Why
did
you
not
plan
for
it?
You
know,
because
you
somebody
gave
you
a
really
low
estimate.
G
So
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is:
do
we
have
two
or
three
different
contractors
that
have
given
us
estimates,
for
you
know
for
a
certain
project
and
they're
kind
of
like
a
line,
and
it
doesn't
matter
if
you
know
if
it
ends
in
24
hours.
I
get
that
you
know
it's
volatile
and
things
will
change,
but
something
that
we
can
almost
like
a
base
price
right
of
what
we're
looking
at,
like
kind
of
like
okay,
we
have
three
estimates.
G
This
is
more
or
less
what's
happening
today
it
will
change,
but
at
least
we
know
where
we're
standing.
This
is
I
just
heard
from
somebody
or
we
estimate
you
know.
M
Oh
no
yeah,
yeah,
absolutely,
council.
Member!
Your
point
is
a
good
one.
I
can
assure
you
that
our
engineering
division,
who
is
in
charge
of
all
capital
projects
anything
over
fifty
thousand
dollars.
They
work
with
professional
estimators,
so
we
have
professional
estimators
on
contract
that
provide
these
estimates
to
us.
M
I
think
part
of
the
issue
that
we
have
all
experienced
and
continues
to
exacerbate
over
time
is
that
the
point
from
which
we
estimate
to
the
point
that
the
funding
gets
allocated
and
then
the
point
at
which
the
construction
actually
begins
sometimes
is
years
not
days
not
months
but
years,
and
we
continually
try
to
fight
that
process
because
it
does,
you
know
the
market
and
the
way
that
construction
works,
and
especially
these
days,
it's
very
difficult
to
hold
a
price
year
over
year.
C
I
just
want
to
add
too
there's
also
a
challenge
in
that
some
of
the
projects
are
pretty
well
conceived,
meaning
meaning
they're
far
down
the
line
of
community
engagement.
Other
projects
are
sort
of
in
the
beginning
stages
of
community
engagement
and
it
would
be
possible
to
have
an
estimator
say.
You
know
what
is
the
cost
of
this
project,
but
that's
sort
of
the
conundrum
that
our
staff
has
been
trying
to
crack
in
terms
of
issuing
the
bonds
at
a
point
in
time,
because
once
you
issue
bonds,
it's
not
like
cip,
where
you
can
say.
C
Oh,
let's
come
back
in
a
budget
amendment
and
add
20,
because
we
decided
to
increase
the
scope
based
on
community
input
or
something
like
that,
because
the
dollar
amount's
so
much
higher,
it's
just
not
not
as
feasible,
and
so
there's
just
this
tug
and
pull
of
when's
the
right
time
to
issue
the
bonds
and
how
certain
is
the
information
and
it
feels
like.
Maybe
we're
not
it.
I
don't
know-
maybe
we're
not
quite
at
that
right
time
yet,
but
I
could
be
wrong.
M
Yeah
jen.
I
really
appreciate
that
insight
being
added
to
the
conversation,
because
often
times
and
especially
with
bond
projects,
that
the
design
budget
is
included
in
the
bond.
So
we
haven't
gone
down
the
road
to
your
point
of
doing
a
fully
fleshed
out
design
and
we
and
you
can't
get
a
good
price
on
a
project
until
you've
designed
it.
And
so
it's
this
chicken
and
egg
horse
before
the
cart.
M
Whatever
you
want
to
say,
we're
constantly
fighting
with
the
with
the
process
that
we
must
go
through
to
make
sure
that
we're
being
transparent
with
the
expenditure
of
these
dollars.
But
it
does
create
some
challenges
when
it
comes
to
fully
actualized
design
and
how
that
informs
a
good
bid
or
a
good
estimate.
G
Questions,
I
have
one
more
thing.
Sorry,
so
I
always
thought
I've
been
thinkings
are
now
I've
been
thinking
about.
G
You
know
what,
if
our
estim,
once
we
bond
if
we
want
and
what,
if
our
estimates
you
know
of,
are
off
right
and
so
all
of
a
sudden
we
we
have
this
amount
of
money
that
we
were
able
to
bond
for,
but
it
will
only
be
you
know
we
will
only
be
able
to
afford
three
projects
out
of
the
10
or,
however
many
we
have
how
we're
going
to
deal
with
that.
Do
we
do
priorities
now.
Do
we
say
hey
as
of
today?
G
This
is
what
we're
thinking,
but
once
the
money
comes
and
we
get
the
community
input
and
the
new
you
know,
design
is
done
and
the
new
estimates
we
might
not
be
able
to
find
everything
we
had
hoped
for.
I
don't
know
how
to
solve
that,
or
I
don't
know
how
to
do
that.
But
that's
that's
a
concern
that
I
have
or
or
something
I've
been
thinking
about.
I
The
council
can
certainly
discuss
you
know
if,
if
there's
a
project
that
needs
more
money,
the
bond
can't
afford
it.
What
would
be
the
contingency
in
that
situation?
Just
with
the
caveat,
you
can't
bind
a
future
council,
so
it's
helpful
to
signal
your
preferences
and
your
priorities
on
this.
Knowing
that
a
future
council
could
feel
differently.
E
We
can
also
do
design
to
budget,
so
we
have
an
allocation
of
money
and
with
with
the
input
from
from
stakeholders,
we
can
decide
what
goes
into
the
project.
We
have
this
big
idea.
We
can't
afford
it,
but.
I
We
can
afford
this
pieces
of
that
big
idea,
which
is
you
know,
adjusting
to
the
budget.
B
Council
members,
anything
else
great,
thank
you.
I
think
there's
still
some
work
that
we
all
need
to
do
on
this.
There
have
seems
like
we
have
some
questions
here
and
there,
but
answers
are
coming.
So
that's
great
we're
moving
on
to
our
next
account
agenda
item,
which
is
an
introduction
to
our
legislative
intents.
I
believe
allison
flores.
H
Correct,
madam
chair,
so
this
next
item
is
the
the
initial
discussion
of
fiscal
year
2022
legislative
intents.
This
is
the
first
of
three
plan
briefings
on
legislative
intent,
statements
and
just
by
way
of
background,
these
are
your
formal
requests
to
the
administration
which
are
adopted
as
part
of
the
annual
budget.
H
So
I
want
to
stress:
there's
no
expectation
that
any
of
the
issues
outlined
in
the
legislative
intents
will
be
solved
in
this
briefing.
This
is
just
very
preliminarily,
an
informal
conversation
to
help
guide
the
administration
and
make
any
changes
that
you
may
wish
to
make
in
the
precise
wording
of
the
fy
22
intense.
H
H
I
believe
there
are
seven
legislative
intents
for
fy
22
and
identify
any
intents
you
may
wish
to
discuss
the
administration
and
remember,
for
example,
department
directors
may
have
identified
some
items
that
they'd
like
to
ask
questions
on
and
then
based
on
this
discussion,
you
can
choose
whether
to
edit
any
of
the
intent
language
just
one
more
thing.
The
second
legislative,
intense
briefing
is
generally
scheduled
to
coincide
with
an
upcoming
budget
amendment.
H
H
So
that
is
the
plan
for
tonight.
Should
you
agree
to
it?
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
start
out
just
by
by
reviewing
the
list
of
seven
new
legislative
intents
I
actually
have
it
here.
I
neglected
to
send
it
to
taylor,
but
she
may
be
able
to
share
her
or
allow
me
to
share
my
screen.
If
that's
helpful,.
E
A
little
bit
of
a
shorthand
additional
piece
of
information
is
that
one
of
the
reasons
this
briefing
is
scheduled
is
that
sometimes,
during
the
heat
of
the
budget,
a
legislative
intent
will
be
put
together
quickly
and
it
seems
like
a
good
idea
at
the
time
and
then
in
a
year
when
they're
coming
back
to
report
on
it,
everybody
will
go.
Why
do
we
ask
them
that
so
orgy
that
wasn't
exactly
what
I
meant,
and
so
this
briefing
will
help
us
as
staff
and
the
administration
know.
E
First
of
all
is
it
is:
did
the
writing
of
it
communicate
what
it
was
you
were
interested
in?
Are
you
still
interested
in
it?
Does
it
make
sense
to
spend
the
resources
on
checking
it
out
and
and
that
type
of
a
thing?
So
that's
why
we're
doing
it
we're
trying
to
give
a
chance
to
refine
a
little
bit
and
also
hopefully
save
some
work
where,
if,
if
it
was
something
in
the
moment
that
everybody
decided
now
hey
it's
not
worth
it,
then
we
can
let
them
know
and
save
the
the
effort.
B
Thanks
excellent,
thank
you
cindy.
Can
somebody
put
up
those
seven
in
legislative
intents
on
the
screen.
H
H
Oh
dear,
we
need
to
close
a
couple
windows
here.
G
G
H
In
previous
discussions,
the
council
did
include
fire
and
9-1-1
dispatch,
but
in
this
second
expansion,
third
expansion,
it
would
also
include
social
workers
and
non-emergency
traffic
enforcement
programs.
C
H
This
is
it
these
last
two
rda
legislative
intents,
and
you
have
heard
something
I
believe
you
heard
something
today
on
f
the
energy
efficiency
and
on
g.
The
structure
of
accounts,
I
think,
is
the
one
that
that
hasn't
yet
been
discussed
in
an
rda
context
and,
of
course,
the
rda
chair
and
and
vice
chair
would
be
welcome
to
take
these
up
in
an
rda
meeting.
If
they'd
like.
K
I'm
sure
yeah
on
item
f.
I
wonder
I
would
be
interested
in
expanding
that
to
be
not
just
energy
efficiency,
but
also
clean
emitting
buildings,
so
like
buildings
that
don't
use
a
lot
of
fossil
fuels
to
heat
and
cool
and
therefore
don't
have
as
big
of
an
impact
on
our
air
quality.
B
C
I
think
that
that's
actually
consistent
with
where
the
administration
is
going
with
this
upcoming
work,
with
the
erp
and
working
with
gfoa
to
kind
of
get
a
complete
structure
of
those
accounts.
It's
good
timing.
B
H
Would
you
like,
madam
chair
sorry,
I
think
I
overspoke
nope
you're
fine
alison
go
ahead,
just
wondering
whether
you'd
like
to
invite
any
of
the
department
heads
who
may
have
questions.
L
Madam
chair,
I
have
a
question
regarding
e:
the
public
lands
maintenance,
I'm
just
curious
on
on
this
one.
If
I
I
have
a
few
questions
regarding
this
legislative
intent
and
it
may
be
more
than
we
want
to
get
into
in
this
meeting-
maybe
small
group
meetings,
but
I'm
curious
when
the
council
says
estimate
of
funding
that
would
be
needed
to
adequately
maintain
all
cities
public
lands.
L
L
Is
there
a
level
of
maintenance
that
the
council
is
looking
for
like?
Is
there
a
specific
part
that
would
be?
You
know,
here's
our
ideal,
that
we
are
looking
to
maintain
to
that
level
so
that
that's
one
of
my
questions
and
then,
when
council
says
all
of
the
city's
public
lands,
are
they
referring
to
all
of
our
parks?
All
of
our
trails,
our
medians,
our
buildings,
the
grounds
outside
our
buildings?
Are
they
referring
to
golf
courses?
Are
they
referring
to
urban
forestry?
L
It
could
be
quite
large.
Are
we
talking
about
the
foothill
trails,
and
so
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
looking
for
a
little
bit
more
clarification
on
that
one?
What
council
is
looking
for
on
that
specific
item.
K
E
Chair,
yes,
I
might
ask.
K
L
Yeah,
I
I
think
we
can.
We
can
try
to
come
up
with
what
might
be
reasonable.
I
know
that
the
our
facilities
group
utilize
the
contractor
to
put
together
the
facilities
maintenance
plan,
and
that
might
be
something
that
we
would
want
to
look
at.
L
A
lot
of
these
items
are
somewhat
of
a
moving
target
in
that
we
sometimes
have
failures
in
in
our
park
systems
where
we
need
to
make
repairs
that
are
unanticipated,
there's
quite
a
bit
of
deferred
maintenance
that
is
desirable
for
public
lands,
and
so
that's
another
question:
do
we
include
our
deferred
maintenance
on
our
irrigation
systems,
or
you
know
replacing
turf
those
kind
of
things,
and
so
it's
really
for
me,
it's
more
of
a
question
of
what
are
we
looking
to
achieve
out
of
this
request,
and
you
know
where
does
where
is
the
city
want
to
go
with
our
public
lands
maintenance,
because
we
have
quite
a
few
issues
with
folks
living
in
our
parks
and
and
that's
another
moving
target
that
you
know?
L
B
Well,
I
think
that
I
mean
I
can
understand
your
concerns,
but
I
think
going.
I
have
two
thoughts
here.
Going
back
to
something
dennis
said,
I-
and
you
know
this
of
me,
having
I
think
seen
me
on
the
council
for
four
years
is
like
I'm.
That
is
a
good
question.
What
does
adequate
mean?
I'm
gonna
turn
to
the
experts
and
say
to
you:
what
does
adequate
mean
if
it
was
an
ideal?
B
You
know
maybe
not
ideal,
because
of
course
then
we'd
have
all
the
money
in
the
world,
but
like
what
does
that?
Actually
look
like
right?
What
it
means
to
me
is
not
getting
complaints
from
you
know,
constituents
and
residents
that
there
is
the
garbage
can
is
always
full
or
there
is
not
even
a
garbage
can,
or
there
are
weeds
everywhere
or
the
playground
is
broken
and
liable,
or
right
whatever
and
and
every
district
could
probably
have
a
different
complaint
of
somebody
saying
that.
B
Right
again.
What
does
adequate
look
like?
Well,
if
I'm
hiking
through
the
foothills,
I
hope
that
I'm
not
expecting
to
not
see
any
weeds
on
a
trail
right
like
that
would
be
different
than
if
I'm
at
the
park
and
the
grass
is
all
weeds,
and
I
can't
like
have
a
picnic
with
my
family.
B
L
We
can
do
that
as
well,
but
I
think
that
that's
helpful
and-
and
we
can
come
up
with
what
we
think
is
adequate
maintenance
and
what
our
specific
needs
are.
I'm
just
curious.
If
there
was
you
know,
clarification
on
you
know,
and
I
don't
wanna,
including.
B
All
the
divisions,
sure
I
don't
I
don't.
Certainly
I
don't
think
we
need
to
discuss
as
much
more.
We
can
discuss
it
offline,
but
I
would
encourage
too,
I
mean
you're
a
new
department.
I
think
this
is
the
perfect
opportunity
for
you
to
create
some
of
that
mission
and
value
that
we
have
seen
in
rda,
for
example,
spending
two
years
on.
B
What's
our
mission
and
values
and
goals,
and
how
are
we
going
to
get
there
and
then
spending
a
year
on
what
does
equity
look
like
what
does
inclusivity
within
our
developments
and
our
rda
projects
look
like
right
and
that
in
some
ways
I
would,
I
would
venture
to
guess
that
many
of
those
things
kind
of
stemmed
from
these
legislative
intents
right-
and
I
think
that
there's
a
real
opportunity
here
for
your
department
to
really
do
the
same.
What
is
your
maintenance
philosophy?
B
B
B
H
Add
briefly,
it
looks
like
mary
beth
has
said
that
she
can.
She
can
help
rework
the
account
structure,
intent
item
g
that
was
mentioned
earlier
to
add
in
the
part
about
the
enter
enterprise
resource
planning
initiative.
So
just
that
additional
bit
of
information
and
I'll
go
away
too
great.
B
Thank
you
so
much.
We
council
members,
I
believe,
are
on
our
lasted
well
sort
of
like
last
agenda
item,
which
is
the
resolution
for
the
local
emergency
declaration
extension,
and
we
have
our
faithful
city
attorney,
miss
katie
lewis,
here
with
us.
I
believe,
on
this
item.
C
Madam
chair,
she
sends
her
apologies.
She
had
a
commitment,
so
I
am
filling
in
her
along
with
our
city
recorder,
cindy
lou,
oh
great.
Well,
I
can
just
track
questions.
C
So
this
is
just
the
process:
that's
set
up
by
state
law.
The
mayor
can
declare
an
emergency
and
then,
after
30
days,
it's
up
to
the
council
to
extend
that
emergency.
C
We
had
put
in
a
placeholder
of
30
days
for
that
extension,
but
the
council
could
discuss
and
change
that
and
katie
stands
ready
to
change
that
tomorrow.
If
the
council
has
a
desire
to
cindy
lou,
did
you
have
anything
else
to
add.
K
G
K
I
have
a
question
in
the
mayor's
update
to
us
earlier
in
this
meeting.
He
suggested
that
we
reach
out
to
dr
don.
I
wonder
what
what
I
would
be
interested
in
is
having
some
sort
of
trackable
metrics
that
at
which
point
dr
dunn
or
other
health
public
health
experts
would
think
that
it's
no
longer
needed
so
that
it's
not
just
us
deciding
it's
us
following
trackable
metrics
to
know
when
okay,
no
longer
is
this
needed
or
or
maybe
we
would
just
find
out
that
it's
needed
until
people
under
12
can
get
vaccinated.
K
But
I
I'd
be
interested
in
getting
some
feedback
from
the
health
experts
on.
If
and
when
this
should
I
mean
when
this
should
go
away,
but
I
don't
want
to
say
it.
Hopefully,
it
goes
away
at
some
point,
but
when
this
cannon
should
go
away.
B
And
I
guarantee
your
point:
we
we
do
have
what
excuse
me.
We
have
reached
out
to
doctor.
B
With
us
when
she
has
available
time,
so
I
think
that
staff
is
working
with
her
staff
to
get
that
done.
Hopefully
in
october-
and
I
agree
with
you
that
you
know
I
am
not
a
medical
expert,
so
I
mean
if
we
had
decisions
based
on
criminal
defense
stuff,
I
feel
like
I
would
be
comfortable
there,
but
not
in
making
a
determination
on
when
the
pandemic
is
going
to
end
and
we
feel
safer
or
our
children
feel
safer.
So
I'm
happy
to
rely
on
those
different
metrics.
B
One
thing
to
also
keep
in
mind
is
that
when
the
state
passed
its
physical
end
game
legislation,
they
did
include
in
their
submetrics,
and
so
it
would
be
rather
easy
for
us
to
say
when
it
reaches
this.
That
is
we're
just
following
what
the
state
already
said,
but
then
still
have
briefings
by
dr
dunn,
and
so
for
me,
my
my
that's
sort
of
where
I
lie
it.
B
Is
there
the
endgame
legislation
kind
of
already
has
a
metric
in
place,
we're
not
there
right
we,
and
so
that
could
be
first
chris
and
then
aaron,
and
so
that
could
be
just
sort
of
a
thing
that
we
use
or
something
very
similar
to
it
right,
and
so
I'm
in
support
of
extending
for
30
days
right
now
with
another
extension-
and
you
know
the
idea
of
another
extension
in
30
days,
but
it
will
give
us
time
one
to
extend
today
and
give
us
time
to
figure
out
to
have
dr
dunn
come
talk
to
us
and
then
maybe
figure
out
what
that
metric
might
be.
E
D
You
mean
the
those
three
thresholds
with
the
coveted
icu
utilization
cases
per
100
000.
Then,
of
course,
we
already
have
the
prime
doses
coming
into
the
state
yeah.
I
totally
agree,
madam
chair,
that
there
were
some
good
measures
there
with
the
state,
but
they
were
pre-delta
variant,
which
is
more
contagious
and,
as
we
know
from
the
case
numbers
with
the
unvaccinated
population,
people
who
are
unvaccinated
or
almost
six
times
more
likely
to
contract
covid
and
to
be
hospitalized
by
it
and
then
the
kids
number.
D
B
You
excellent
suggestion
madame,
so
I
think
that
we
can
certainly
try
to
work
with
people.
I
guess
my
question
is:
how
do
how
how
do
council
members
feel
we
have
a
limited
normal
meeting
after
this
to
consider
extending
the
mask
mandate.
So
I
am
wondering
now
sort
of
almost
like
a
straw
poll
before
we
actually
go.
Do
the
thing,
but
of
this
idea
of
maybe
extending
for
30
days
with
something
back
on
and
getting
some
more
information,
so
that
there's
a
little
bit
more
of
that
that
metric
measurement
of
some
sort.
B
J
I
don't
know
I
don't
have
a
problem
sharing.
I
just
I
don't
think
it's
appropriate
for
us
as
a
council
to
be
doing
this.
It
should
be
done
by
the
salt
lake
city
school
board.
For
me
personally,
I
don't,
I
feel
like
they
should
be
the
ones
stepping
up
to
the
plate
for
for
it,
it
shouldn't
be
us,
you
know,
there's
there's
data
out
there
that
stays
differently.
You
know,
and
I
I
just
don't.
I
think
that
we're
forcing
kids
to
do
it,
hey
if
your
kids
want
to
wear
masks
all
day.
J
B
J
It's
it's
impossible
for
me
to
do
that,
so
there's
studies
that
say
that
it's
not
healthy
for
kids
to
be
wearing
masks.
You
know
I
can
send
them
to
you,
but
I
know
that
we've
got
six
in
favor
of
it.
I'd
be
totally
in
favorite
if
we
purchased
restaurant
tables
and
put
them
all
in
the
in
the
new
schools.
You
know,
because
when
they
go
and
sit
down,
guess
what
they
take
their
masks
off.
Just
like
in
a
restaurant
I
mean
for
me
this
is
it's!
It
should
be
family
based.
J
It
shouldn't
be
based
upon
a
mandate.
It
should
be.
You
know,
that's
just
how
I
feel
I
just
should
not
be
on
us.
It
should
be
on
the
school
board,
those
those
educated
people
that
were
elected
to
be
doing
this,
we
weren't
elected,
to
be
overseers
of
the
school
district.
So
that's
that's
just
my
personal
opinion.
B
And
and
to
your
point,
james,
I
don't
necessarily
disagree
with
you
on
the
fact
that
this
should
be
a
school
board
decision,
but
I
have
also
received
an
overwhelmingly
amount
of
support
of
parents
in
my
neighborhoods
right.
It's
like
one
thing
for
me.
B
I
don't
have
school-aged
children,
I
don't
I
mean
I
don't
have
children,
but
I
don't
have
any
any
school-aged
children
and-
and
you
know
so,
I
can
have
my
own
opinion
without
necessarily
having
the
experience,
but
I'm
also
was
elected
to
represent
people
and
and
I'm
sure
that
there
are
probably
half
the
people.
That
also
disagree
with
that.
But
the
majority
of
people
who
have
reached
out
to
me
are
in
support
of
this
so
and
that's
part
of
where
I'm
going
with
this
darren.
K
Yeah,
I
I
have
also
received
overwhelming
support
for
it
from
people
that
I
can
confirm
our
my
constituents.
I
have
received
several
emails
of
people
that
are
not
in
support
of
it,
and
I've
been
trying
to
really
dig
into
if
they
live
in
salt
lake
city
or
not,
and
I
think,
with
the
exception
of
one
all
of
those
I
have
I'm
pretty
sure,
live
outside
of
salt
lake
city
either
they
say
it
in
their
email
or
looking
in
public
records.
K
I
can
find
that
so
I
do
think
that
salt
lake
city
constituents
want
this,
and
I
also
agree
with
councilmember
rogers
that
this
should
be
the
school
board.
But
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
the
school
board
has
that
authority
has
been
taken
away
from
the
school
board.
So
we
are
the
only
legislative
body
that
actually
can
do
this.
If
I'm
wrong
on
that.
Somebody
please
correct
me,
but
I
think
it's
unfortunate
that
we
have
to
do
this,
but
the
truth
is
the
school
board.
B
Any
further
discussion
on
this
okay,
we
are
on
to
the
next
agenda
item,
which
is
something.
C
And
madame
chair,
just
you
know,
councilmember
rogers
has
messaged
that
his
connection
is
altering
right
now.
So,
if
he's
not
here,
that's
why.
B
He
was
having
trouble
a
little
earlier
today
as
well.
Wasn't
he
thank
you
appreciate
that.
The
next
item
is
a
report
from
chair
and
vice
chair
and
since
my
vice
chair
just
abandoned
me
just
kidding,
I've
been
abandoning
you
guys
all
day
today,
but
there
is
nothing
from
my
end.
I
don't
think
there's
anything
from
james
report
announcements
from
the
executive
director.
B
I
don't
see
anything
cindy's,
not
popping
in
and
jen
has
that
look
of
don't
think
so
perfect.
We.
H
B
A
closed
session
already,
so
we
will
remain
in
this
same
webex
link
for
the
limited
portal.
Let
me
try
that
again.
We
will
remain
in
this
link
for
the
limited
formal
meeting
which
begins.
C
Now
and
madam
chair,
if
you
could
just
pause
for
just
a
minute
so
that
they
can
switch
the
recording,
I
will
look
to
cindy
lou
to
let
us
know
when
they're
okay
to
have
us
start
again.
C
B
Welcome
to
the
salt
lake
city
council
limited
formal
meeting
if
you
are
just
tuning
in
we're
holding
our
meeting
remotely,
do
the
declarations
of
emergency.
We
first
met
earlier
as
the
redevelopment
agency
board,
followed
by
meeting
as
the
city
council
for
a
work
session
to
discuss
some
briefing
items.
Now
we
are
convening
for
a
limited,
formal
meeting,
which
means
this
is
not
a
standard
formal
meeting
and
there
is
no
general
comment
section
tonight.
B
The
agenda
only
has
one
new
business
item,
a
resolution
that
would
extend
the
mayor's
august
20th
proclamation
that
declared
a
local
emergency
related
to
copen,
19,
rising
cases
and
resurgence
of
the
delta
variant.
The
next
opportunity
for
public
comment
will
be
at
the
council's
tuesday
september
21st
formal
meeting
at
7
p.m.
Also,
the
council
always
welcomes
your
comments
by
mailing
us
at
p.o
box,
145,
476,
salt
lake
city,
utah,
84114,
emailing
us
at
council.com,
it's
at
slcgov.com
or
calling
our
24-hour
comment
line
at
801-535-7654.
B
Are
just
going
to
go
straight
to
new
business,
which
is
section
e
of
our
agenda,
and
that
is
a
resolution
considering
the
adoption
of
the
local
emergency
declaration
extension
as
it
relates
to
copid,
based
on
our
work
session
discussion,
we
discussed
having
the
emergency
declaration
expire
in
30
days
from
today,
so
that
would
be
october.
14Th
today
is
the
14th
correct.
B
C
You
would
reconsider
it
at
your
october
12th
meeting
unless
you
wanted
to
consider
it
earlier.
Okay,.
E
Madam
chair,
I
move
that
we
adopt
the
resolution
extending
the
mayor's
declaration
of
emergency
for
30
days
and
that
we
reconsider
it
at
the
october
12th
meeting.
B
K
M
E
E
B
And
I
am
a
yes
that
passes
six
to
one
and
with
that
we
have
no
nothing
else
on
our
formal
agenda
today.
This
council
meeting
is
adjourned.
I
want
to
appreciate,
I
want
to
send
my
appreciation
to
all
of
you
and
your
patience
and
understanding
and
thank
you
so
much
for
being
with
us
tonight,
bye
everyone.