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A
B
B
Realized
that
our
first
item
of
business,
which
I
will
get
to
after
I
read
everything-
is
the
nomination
of
vice
chair,
and
I
know
that
council,
member
moros
and
council
member
wharton
may
be
late,
so
I
certainly
don't
want
to
do
that
without
them.
Maybe.
C
We
could
switch
the
agenda
items
and
go
to
the
administration's
report
first
and
just
go
back
to
that
item.
When
they're
in
the
meeting.
B
B
B
We
are
closely
monitoring
the
situation.
The
council
will
return
with
hybrid
or
in-person
meetings
when
appropriate
and
safer
for
the
public
and
city
employees.
As
many
of
you
know,
there
is
no
public
comment
during
a
work
session.
However,
please
join
us
remotely
for
the
7
pm
formal
meeting
tonight
to
share
any
comments.
Your
feedback
is
always
welcome
and
you
can
share
with
the
city
council
anytime
by
mailing
us
at
p.o
box,
145476
salt
lake
city,
utah,
84114
emailing
us
at
council.com
slcgov.com,
or
by
calling
our
24-hour
phone
comment
line
at
801-535-7654.
B
We
are
switching
up
the
agenda
a
little
bit
and
so,
as
our
first
item
of
business,
I'd
like
to
turn
the
time
over
to
madame
mendenhall
for
an
update
from
the
administration.
Madam
mayor.
D
And
go
on
to
the
next
one,
even
though
things
have
been
feeling
like
they're
they're
dropping
down.
Most
of
our
numbers
are
up
again
this
week,
including
our
case,
our
statewide
cases,
our
daily
cases,
our
referrals
to
the
icu,
but
the
covid
utilization
is
down
about
2.1
percentage
points
and
the
total
icu
utilization
is
up
just
a
tiny
bit.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
we
can
call
this
a
stabilization,
but
it's
still
increasing
in
most
categories
across
the
board.
Our
next
slide.
D
The
we
have
had
six
children
under
14
hospitalized,
just
since
yesterday,
that's
a
total
of
21
kids
hospitalized
this
week
and
267
new
cases
just
today,
so
we're
at
about
four
times
the
number
of
daily
cases
in
this
age
range,
as
we
were
at
this
time
last
year.
D
Next
slide,
please
it's
from
the
here's
from
the
the
county's
dashboard
on
school
districts
and
you'll
recall
that
this
chart
does
not
wait
for
or
or
calculate
the
school
populations
where
murray
has
about
6
500
students
and
we
have
21
000.
D
So
I
apologize
that
we
don't
have
a
population
weighted
window
on
the
county's
dashboard,
but
I'm
happy
to
get
you
those
population
numbers.
If
you
want
to
do
some
math
and
perhaps
in
our
next
update
for
you
next
week,
we
could
do
those
calculations
next
slide.
D
We
have
a
few
vaccination
events
coming
up
groovin.
The
grove
is
just
fun
anyway,
so
go
to
groove
in
the
grove
on
thursday,
you
can
get
vaccinated
there.
Pioneer
park
will
have
vaccinations
and
glendale
community
learning
center
on
friday
and
then
there's
a
5k
at
liberty
park.
You
don't
actually
have
to
run
the
5k,
but
you
can
go
get
vaccinated
there
next
slide.
D
Here's
a
abrupt
shift.
That
is
a
segway
in
some
ways
to
andrew
johnston's
part
of
our
regular
updates
and
which
you
already
know
about,
but
that
yesterday
I
initiated
the
pending
ordinance
change
notification.
That
is
essentially
a
moratorium.
It
prohibits
any
applications
for
new
permanent
shelters
in
the
city
for
six
months
and
it
requires
us
as
a
city,
to
review
what
conditions
we
can
approve
those
conditional
use
permits
for
shelters
in
the
future.
D
We
want
to
take
into
consideration
in
these
months
whether
or
not
the
city
should
distinguish
between
temporary
and
permanent
shelters
in
our
land
use
process,
which
we
currently
do
not,
and
it
doesn't
prohibit
this
action
that
I've
taken
doesn't
prohibit
the
city
from
considering
a
potential
temporary
shelter
location.
We
absolutely
have
an
emergency
winter
shelter
need
of
300
beds
that
the
coalition
in
the
county
has
articulated
that
need,
and
we
support
that
and
again
just
reiterating
that
the
initiation
of
this
ordinance
change
does
not
prohibit
the
city
from
considering
an
application
for
a
temporary
location.
D
E
Feel
free
to
ask
any
questions
as
you
go
through
and
back
up
the
slides.
If
you
need
to
here's
the
standard
slide,
we've
we
had
for
quite
a
while
now
about
the
occupancy
rates
of
the
resource,
centers,
pretty
typical,
with
the
men's
resource
center,
south
salt
lake
running
at
87
percent
last
week,
miller
the
coed
wanted
95
and
the
king
at
basically
100
99.6
over
90
percent,
is
essentially
full
for
these
folks,
because
those
beds
are
the
beds
that
are
not
being
occupied
at
7
a.m.
E
E
Resource
fairs,
there
was
a
big
one
at
manson
park
on
the
23rd,
and
you
can
see
some
of
the
numbers
from
that.
A
lot
of
outreach
in
there
somebody
went
to
detox.
One
person
went
to
the
rape
recovery
center
as
well.
Workforce
services
saw
a
bunch
of
folks
advantaged
services.
E
We
had
japanese
church
of
christ,
which
was
there,
which
is
great
uta,
also
was
there
and
gave
out
transit
passes,
which
is
a
huge
benefit,
and
then
the
health
department
did
some
vaccinations
and
then
also
rough
haven
for
pets,
which
is
a
big
need
out
there
as
well
and
then
more
cleanings,
also
along
the
jordan
river.
E
This
week,
one
of
the
things
you'll
probably
see
council
members,
if
you
haven't
seen
already
is
there-
are
fewer
of
these
really
large
large
camps
of
over
20
structures
or
tents
at
the
one
place,
with
the
river
being
the
exception
at
times.
But
there
are
a
lot
of
smaller
ones,
and
so
a
lot
of
these
are
being
handled
with
the
disadvantage
services
being
able
to
go
out
and
clean
around
and
through
trying
to
handle
on
smaller
levels
and
more
frequently
through
the
city.
E
As
we
work
on
a
permanent
option
for
everybody
next
slide,
this
is
the
last
slide.
I
wanted
to
bring
this
up
today,
just
for
your
information
as
a
starting
point
to
discuss
one
of
the
questions.
That's
happened
a
lot
recently
at
this
body
and
other
bodies.
I've
been
meeting
with
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
about
what
do
you
do
with
people
who
just
don't
want
help
who
say
no
to
services?
E
There's
a
lot
of
answers
to
that
question.
I
want
to
bring
up
one
particular
piece
to
understand
some
of
the
mindset
that
comes
behind
those
no's.
At
times
it's
an
intersection
between
trauma
and
substance
use,
both
of
which
are
highly
highly
prevalent
with
folks
who
are
unsheltered
even
within
the
shelters.
I'm
not
saying
that
folks
in
the
shelters
are
actively
using
every
day
in
there
they're
not,
but
when
they
leave,
sometimes
they
are,
and
it
has
a
direct
correlation
to
their
trauma.
E
What
we
knew
at
the
re
at
the
youth
resource
center
for
years
was
about
80
percent
of
those
kids
who
came
in
had
been
abused
in
some
capacity
before
they
became
homeless
physically
sexually
emotionally.
E
We
also
knew
from
their
self-report
that,
after
they
became
homeless,
about
80
percent
of
them
were
abused,
post
becoming
homeless
as
well.
It's
a
cycle
that
happens
both
in
and
outside
the
street,
and
so
when
you
have
trauma
in
your
life,
it
impairs
your
decision
making
your
higher
level
functioning.
You
don't
think
through
things
in
a
rational
way,
you're
very
emotionally,
based
you
see
things
in
a
very
different
way.
It's
very
difficult
to
manage
your
emotions.
E
That
dysregulation
happens.
One
of
the
things
we
don't
talk.
A
lot
about
is
sleep.
Sleep
is
very
difficult
for
some
folks
to
have
based
on
trauma
and
based
on
being
unsheltered.
Sometimes
the
lack
of
sleep
alone
will
make
you
look
like
you
have
severe
impairments
and
then
a
general
distrust,
and
this
comes
with.
E
We
keep
asking:
why
won't
they
go
into
resource
centers,
but
if
the
women's
resource
center
is
at
99
capacity
and
we
keep
asking
when
you
do
want
to
go
in
and
they
say
yeah
and
we
say
you
can't
go
in
two
or
three
times
into
that-
you
stop
asking
you
stop
saying.
Yes,
it's
a
useless
sort
of
process
for
me
to
get
any
hopes
up
to
think
through
that,
because
it's
just
gonna
be
failure
again.
E
So
there's
some
anger
that
comes
in
and
then
it's
a
constant
feeling
that
trauma
it
doesn't
go
away.
It's
like
a
shadow
or
a
haunting
where
you
don't
feel
safe
anywhere
and
for
some
of
the
folks
we're
talking
about
out
there.
They
cannot
tell
you
how
many
times
they've
been
through
abuse
of
all
sorts
of
times.
E
It
is
frequent,
it
is
constant,
they're
reliving
it
sometimes,
even
when
it's
not
happening
to
them,
and
so
you
can
see
why
substance
abuse
becomes
a
massive
coping
skill
for
folks
from
an
early
age.
Sometimes
at
least
when
you
get
on
the
street,
it
dulls
the
emotional
sort
of
ability
up
and
down.
Sometimes
it
gives
you
the
energy
you
need
to
survive.
Sometimes
it
gives
you
the
sleep
you
want.
Sometimes
it's
just
getting
away
from
things:
the
loneliness,
the
discomfort
all
those
pieces.
E
The
other
piece
is
when
you
get
into
substance,
use
it's
compulsive,
and
I
say
it's
not
impulsive
in
that
some
folks
you
get
triggered
and
you
use
for
a
lot
of
folks.
It
is
constant,
it's
a
compulsion.
It
drives
you
when
you
get
deep
enough
into
that
and
it's
difficult
to
break
that
cycle,
because
you
can
see
the
circular
nature
of
this.
E
So
when
we
talk
about
why
there's
folks
out
there
on
the
streets
who
are
not
saying
yes
to
services
or
not
trusting
the
service
providers
going
out,
it
has
less
to
say
sometimes
about
who
the
service
provider
is
or
the
services
being
offered
and
more
to
say
about
the
nature
of
their
experience
right
now,
as
we
get
more
resources
and
as
we're
more
consistent
in
offering
the
right
resources
to
the
right
folks,
it's
a
it's
a
science
and
art
that
should
improve,
but
we
can't
really
expect
people
to
just
jump
on
board
with
the
service.
E
That's
actually
not
reasonable
at
this
time
and
then
blame
them
as
well
at
times
for
not
accepting
help.
I
think
that
doesn't
give
us.
He
has
done
the
right
path,
and
so
there
are
people
out
there
who
we
know
are
preying
on
folks
who
are
out
there
for
the
business
side
of
things
and
not
necessarily
because
they
have
no
place
to
sleep.
We
are.
We
know
there
are
folks
they're,
pretty
deep
in
their
addiction.
E
E
It's
going
to
take
more
consistency
and
it's
going
to
take
a
system
that
continues
to
offer
things
in
a
really
kind
of
client-centered
way
to
understand
where
they're
at
and
tailor
as
much
as
we
can
to
the
needs,
because
I
think
most
folks
will
come
in
we've
seen
that
in
the
last
few
years,
we've
offered
a
service
in
the
wintertime
that
seems
appropriate
to
what
their
needs
are.
They've
come
in
voluntarily
in
large
large
numbers.
E
So
I
still
believe
that
I
believe
our
enforcement
piece
is
important
for
that
portion
of
the
population
who
is
not
necessarily
homeless
or
needing
the
still
services,
but
I
don't
want
to
throw
all
of
the
folks
we're
seeing
out
there
in
the
same
boat
with
them.
So
if
that's
helpful
great,
if
there's
other
things
I
can
follow
up
on
in
small
group
meetings
or
other
times
to
maybe
help
with
some
some
face
to
what
we're
seeing
out
there.
Just
please
let
me
know.
B
Andrew
thank
you
so
much.
I
really
appreciate
that
slide
and
that
information.
I
think
I
can
speak
for
the
majority
of
us
when
and
saying
that
we've
and
you
know
from
being
a
council
member
as
well
that
we
get.
B
We
get
that
comment
a
lot
and
it's
sort
of
this
stigma
on
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
on
the
populations
that
we're
trying
to
help,
and
I
think
that
slide
and
kind
of
putting
that
into
perspective
is
helpful
and
gives
me
a
new
tool
when
answering
that
question
from
constituents
or
residents
that
are,
you
know,
maybe
sort
of
placing
blame
in
some
ways
where
it
doesn't
need
to
to
necessarily
be
placed.
So
I
appreciate
that
a
lot
and
look
forward
to
more
information
there.
F
B
I
don't
know
if
there
is
any
other
update
from
the
mayor's
office.
Lisa
is
there
so
do
you
have
something
lisa.
G
B
Great
thank
you
lisa,
since
we
still
don't
have
anna
here.
Let's
move
to
agenda
item
number
three,
which
is
an
update
on
our
racial
equity
and
policing,
and
that
will
be
from
alice
in
if
allison
is
available.
Sorry
we're
a
bit
early,
but
we're
I'm
skipping
around.
So
thank
you
for
being
available.
Allison.
H
Oh,
you
know
I
hang
on
all
of
your
word
every
meeting,
so
just
some
quick
updates
on
the
racial
equity
and
policing
commission.
Actually,
before
I
get
to
that
coletta.
Lynch
asked
me
to
mention
that
the
city's
ada
coordinator
position
is
open.
The
previous
person
who
filled
that
role
is
no
longer
with
the
city,
so
this
is
being
announced
on
hr
and,
if
obviously
she's
interested
in
getting
that
word
out
as
broadly
as
possible.
H
The
second
thing
is
that
the
rep
commission
did
indeed
meet
on
september
29th,
beginning
their
second
year
of
operation.
Most
of
last
year's
commissioners
did
return
to
the
commission.
A
few
of
them
had
to
step
aside,
for
various
personal
reasons,
the
group
elected
as
their
chair
for
this
year,
commissioner
nicole
salazar
hall
and
his
vice
chair
commissioner
tanya
hawkins.
So
those
two
will
be
functioning
in
those
roles
this
year
and
the
commission
also
approved
a
full
set
of
policies
similar
to
what
other
commissions
and
boards
have
in
the
city
to
guide
the
commission's
ongoing
work.
H
So
that
was
also
done.
They
also
received
from
fire
department
chief
carl
leeb,
a
briefing
on
the
community
health
access
team
proposal.
That's
the
chat
proposal
that
some
of
you
may
have
heard
about,
and
finally,
they
agreed
to
a
new
schedule
for
meetings.
It's
going
to
be
monthly
at
5
pm
on
the
last
wednesday
of
every
month,
so
the
next
meeting
will
be
on
october
27th.
B
Thank
you
so
much
alison
and
I
see
at
least
on
his
tile.
So
we
will
jump
back
to
our
first
agenda
item
and
I'm
gonna
be
really
honest
that
I'm
gonna
try
to
get
through
this
without
crying,
but
not
sure
I'll.
Be
able
to
do
that.
So
this
item
of
business
is
taking
place
as
a
result
of
council
member
james
rogers
resignation
from
his
district
one
seat
that
was
effective
yesterday.
B
Or
visit
our
website
at
slc
council
dot
com,
so
for
those
of
you
listening
clearly,
we
know
that
there
was.
There
will
be
an
election
for
that
seat
on
november
2nd,
but
that
position
does
not
take
does
not
is
not
sworn
into
office
until
the
beginning
of
january.
Therefore,
there
will
be
the
remaining
time
of
hit
james's
seat
that
would
need
to
be
filled
so
from
that
nova
that
month
and
a
half
or
so,
and
under
our
ordinances
and
state
laws.
B
We
have
30
days
from
his
effective
date
of
resignation
to
fill
that
seat,
as
people
are
very
well
aware,
we've
done
this
now,
our
this
will
be
our
fourth
time.
So
there
is
a
process
in
place.
If
anyone
is
interested
in
applying,
as
I
said,
please
contact
the
recorder's
office
at
535-7671
or
visit
our
website
at
slccouncil.com.
C
Yes,
jim
I'm
sorry,
I
just
noticed
that
council
member
of
baltimore
says
tile
dropped
off,
I'm
not
sure
if
maybe
she's
in
the
elevator
or
something
but
anyway
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know.
I
B
I
am
here
thank
you
anna,
so,
in
the
meantime,
councilmember
rogers
was
serving
as
vice
chair
of
the
council
for
2021.
Therefore,
the
council
will
need
to
elect
a
new
vice
chair
to
serve
through
the
rest
of
the
year
council
members.
Anyone
who's
interested
in
serving
you
will
have
an
opportunity
to
let
the
council
know
that
after
we
know
which
council
members
are
interested,
then
we
will
take
a
straw
poll
vote
in
the
chat.
B
So
council
members
will
message
the
post
on
your
chat
panel.
Taylor
on
our
staff
will
receive
those
messages
and
update
our
tracking
sheet
and
then
cindy
liu
from
the
recorder's
office
will
then
read
the
final
tally.
Once
all
council
members
have
voted,
so
I
open
up
the
floor
to
anyone
who
is
interested
in
this
position.
K
Okay,
well,
everybody
I've.
I
would
be
happy
to
self
nominate
myself,
and
I
know
that
this
has
been
a
lot
of
turnover
that
we've
had
recently
on
the
council,
and
I
would
just
like
to
offer
my
ability
and
having
been
the
immediate
past,
chair
of
the
council,
to
be
able
to
step
in
and
and
help
us
get
us
over
the
finish
line
for
the
last
three
months
of
this
year,
and
hopefully
there
won't
be
too
much
of
a
learning
curve.
K
I've
tried
to
stay
up
on
on
everything
and
just
want
to
be
there
just
to
see
us
through
the
the
rest
of
our
ambitious
goals
for
the
year
and,
of
course,
to
support
our
chair.
Who
you
know
has
a
lot.
I
just
want
to
be
as
much
help
as
I
can.
Thank
you.
B
M
Don't
the
because
your
actual
vote
will
be
during
the
council
meeting
and
so
right
now?
What
you've
told
us
is
that
what
you'll
be
doing
at
your
council
meeting
later
is
confirming
the
selection
of
or
the
nomination,
so
to
speak
of
chris
wharton
as
the
vice
chair.
So
that's
it.
B
Thank
you
cindy,
thank
you,
cindy
lou,
and
thank
you
chris,
for
stepping
up
and
for
all
of
the
council
members
for
supporting
james
in
his
decision.
B
That
is
an
admirable
decision
and,
although
he's
going
to
be
sorely
sorely
missed,
I
really
appreciate
your
support
and
your
ability
to
adapt
to
these
last
couple
of
years
that
seem
that
there's
always
something
that
new
we
have
to
adapt
to.
So
thank
you
all.
B
With
that
we
are
on
agenda
item
number
four:
we
are
about
a
half
an
hour
early.
Do
we
know
if
we
have
unnecessary
people
online
ready
to
go?
If
we
go
now.
B
The
university
ivory
house
zoning
map
amendment-
I
see
brian
and
I
see
kelsey,
so
I
think
that
we
would
be
able
to
go
forward.
Thank
you
for
being
available
a
little
bit
early.
I
I
Subdivided
from
a
larger
parcel
owned
by
the
church
of
jesus
christ,
of
latter-day
saints
who
still
owns
the
property
if
the
rezone
is
approved,
the
applicant
and
the
church
will
enter
into
a
long-term
lease
for
the
property
planning
commission
approved
a
planned
development
and
design
review
conditioned
on
city
council
approval
of
the
zoning
map.
Amendment
commission
forwarded
forwarded
a
unanimous,
positive
recommendation
to
the
council.
I
I
Thank
you
brian.
For
that
overview,
could
somebody
please
bring
up
my
slide
deck.
I
Wonderful
and
brian
actually
gave
a
really
in-depth
overview
and
covered
mostly
what
I
was
going
to
talk
about,
so
I'll
actually
jump
to
the
differences
between
the
institutional
zoning
district
and
the
residential
mixed-use
zoning
district.
So
if
you
could
go
down
to
the
third
slide,
that's
perfect.
I
These
two
districts
differ
in
regard
to
the
permitted
development
scale,
comparing
the
three
key
development
standards
which
are
listed
in
the
table
on
the
screen,
the
by
right,
building
height
and
setbacks
in
the
rmu
does
allow
for
a
larger
scale
building
than
in
the
I,
which
is
the
institutional
zoning
district.
I
Additionally,
the
rmu
permits
substantially
smaller
setbacks,
as
well
as
just
larger,
basing
in
general.
I
However,
with
the
current
development
proposal
that
was
approved
by
planning
commission,
the
applicant
requested
to
exceed
the
front
yard
setbacks,
and
actually
the
development
is
a
similar
scaled
and
cited
to
a
development
that
would
be
located
in
the
institutional
zoning
district.
I
F
I
Yeah
you're
you're
current
councilmember
mono
in
this
case
the
church
of
latter-day
saints,
owns
the
property
and
the
state
does
not
own
the
property.
So
we
do
have
jurisdiction
over
development.
On
this
parcel.
B
Sorry
couldn't
unmute
any
other
questions.
Council
members.
N
I
do
call
one
chair
kelsey,
you
said
you
said
that
there's
they
are
trying
to
exceed
the
front
yard
setback,
but
there's
no
frontiers
frontier
setback
requirement.
So
how
does
that
work.
I
N
L
Yeah
no
question
but
kelsey
thanks
for
the
presentation
and
also
talking
to
ivory,
I
think
it's
a
good
program
for
the
foundation
and
the
scholarships
and
a
good
use
for
that
land
and
the
trees
and
the
and
the
I.
As
always
stress
you
know,
if
you
can
reduce
the
parking
lots,
it'd
be
great
and
make
it
more.
Natural
landscape
would
be
awesome,
also
awesome
with
the
water
problems
we
have
in
the
state.
So
I
always
press
for
that.
L
B
You
thank
you
thanks
dan
and
brian
mentioned
that
the
applicant
was
on,
and
so,
if
we
want
to
give,
I
don't
know
who's
here
from
as
as
representing
the
applicant,
but
I'm
happy
to
give
five
minutes
to
whoever
is
here
and
wants
to
speak
to
this
petition.
B
If
brian,
if
you
don't
mind
keeping
your
eye
out
for
them,
I'm
happy
to
kind
of
jump
back
and
give
them
space.
I
I
know
we
have
jumped
it
or
gone
a
little
bit
quicker
and
certainly
don't
want
to
deprive
them
of
the
opportunity
to
address
the
council
since,
of
course,
they're
invited
to
do
such
so.
If
you
see
them,
we
just
flag
me
somehow
and
we
can
jump
back
to
this
agenda
item.
B
I
K
Okay,
so
why
isn't
the
and
the
university,
the
applicant.
B
Thank
you
thanks,
brian
again,
knowing
that
we
are
a
bit
ahead
of
schedule.
I
am
going
to
ask
if
our
group
from
livable
streets
is
available
and
allison
and
john
and
laura,
do
you
mind,
jumping
in
and
giving
us
your
presentation
on
the
livable
streets
program
and
I'll
turn
the
time
over
to
allison?
First.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Fortunately
john
and
lara,
and
possibly
scott
vaudelas
has
now.
I
hope
that
didn't
ruin
your
last
name.
Sorry,
I
I
hope
scott
is
also
able
to
join
us,
but
john
and
laura
are
on
the
call,
so
they
were
able
to
jump
in
early
I'm
to
give
just
a
little
bit
of
information
sort
of
context
on
the
livable
streets
program.
For
those
of
you
who
weren't
around
to
see
its
initiation,
let
alone
its
previous
incarnation
and
then
I'll
turn
the
time
over
to
the
transportation
division
experts.
H
So,
in
terms
of
context,
as
many
of
you
know,
this
is
an
ongoing
constituent
interest
and
there
was
a
previous
neighborhood
traffic
calming
program
which
ended
in
2005
because
of
the
constant
public
interest.
The
council
allocated
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
2019
specifically
to
support
an
update
to
this
program.
H
H
It's
referred
to
in
the
title
as
the
livable
streets
recommendations,
I
sort
of
varied
calling
it
livable
streets,
program
proposal
or
something
along
those
lines
just
to
try
to
keep
it
clear
that
the
recommendations
are
for
the
program
rather
than
something
else.
H
I
want
to
mention
that
this
would
be
a
big
new
program.
The
report
recommends
dedicated
excuse
me
dedicated
management
and
resources,
potentially
a
new
budget
line
item
just
for
livable
streets.
The
estimated
cost,
as
it's
designed,
is
700
000
to
1
million
per
year,
and
that
would
include
at
least
three
to
three
new
ftes
for
community
outreach
and
implementation.
H
H
So
I
believe
we
can
move
on
to
the
transportation
divisions
presentation.
Unless
anyone
has
questions
before
then.
O
Great
thank
you,
madam
chair.
This
is
an
exciting
day.
I
know
it's
been
a
little.
It
feels
like
a
long
time
coming
to
finally
present
some
recommendations
for
a
program
and
laura
handworker
on
our
staff,
managed
this
effort,
and
so
I'm
going
to
turn
over
to
her
to
jump
into
the
presentation
that
she's
prepared.
P
Thanks
john,
I
will
try
to
keep
my
presentation
fairly
short,
so
we
can
just
move
on
into
the
discussion
and
some
of
those
policy
questions
that
are
that
are
in
our
presentation
and
allison's
report
as
well,
and
thank
you
for
pulling
all
that
together,
allison.
P
So
a
quick
definition
or
how
we
look
at
the
phrase
livable
streets,
it's
to
make
all
of
our
neighborhood
streets
in
the
city
safe
and
comfortable
for
all
types
of
road
users.
You
know
cyclists,
pedestrians,
those
in
vehicles,
and
so
the
biggest
goal
of
the
program
is
to
slow
traffic
in
residential
areas
through
physical
design.
Rather
than
just
you
know,
signage
or
paint,
or
things
like
that.
P
Just
traffic
calming
we're
calling
it
livable
streets,
because
we
want
it
to
be
a
suite
of
solutions
that
contribute
to
a
neighborhood's,
increased
quality
of
life
so
through
both
the
built
and
natural
elements
of
the
environment,
community
safety,
accessibility,
connectivity
to
goods
and
services
and
then
also
looking
at
it
in
terms
of
equitably
distributing
all
of
those
factors
throughout
the
city.
P
Cars
are
one
of
the
top
complaints
that
the
transportation
division
gets
in
any
given
year
and
those
numbers
just
seem
to
go
up
the
number
of
calls
that
we
get
about
this
issue,
and
so
it's
something
that
a
lot
of
residents
are
concerned
about,
and
we
want
to
provide
this
forum
for
them
to
express
those
concerns
and
discuss
solutions
in
partnership
with
the
city,
and
we
also
want
to
create
a
fair,
transparent
and
data
driven
process
for
prioritizing
funding,
but
also
manage
expectations
regarding
the
number
of
projects
and
that
can
be
implemented
each
year
again.
P
It's
an
issue
for
neighborhoods
throughout
the
city
and
many
people
want
to
see
improvements
on
their
streets
immediately.
Of
course
it's
understandable,
and
so
we
want
to
be
really
upfront
that
it
is
a
longer
term
process
or
just
that
it's
going
to
take
a
really
long
time
to
work
throughout
all
of
those
problem
areas,
and
so
we
want
the
process
for
which
we
do
so
to
be
really
really
transparent
and
fair
and
equitable
next
slide.
Please.
P
One
of
the
the
pitfalls
of
the
shortcomings
of
the
previous
iteration
of
the
program,
one
of
the
reasons
that
it
ended
up
being
discontinued
was
it
went
on
a
street
by
street
implementation
basis,
and
you
can
imagine
that
sort
of
leads
to
pitting
neighbors
against
neighbors
sort
of
outlook
or
the
idea
that
you
know,
if
my
since
we're
a
grid
system
in
most
places
in
the
city.
P
Where,
as
we
move
down
the
list
of
implementation
for
implementation,
we
would
do
an
entire
zone
of
traffic
calming
at
once,
and
the
reasoning
behind
that
was
to
ensure
that,
if
vehicles,
if
drivers
did
want
to
try
to
avoid,
you
know,
go
out
of
their
way
to
avoid
the
the
traffic
calming
elements
on
any.
Given
street
that
they
would
just
have
to
go,
they
would
have
to
keep
going
until
they
hit
an
arterial.
P
But
ideally
you
know
we're
not
trying
to
push
traffic
around
we're
trying
to
make
every
street
each
street
that
we
implement
on
more
livable.
So
it
really
is.
This
zonal
approach
is
really
important
to
reaching
those
goals
of
ensuring
lowering
speeds
and
then
not
just
pushing
traffic
from
one
street
one
neighborhood
street
to
another,
and
so
the
streets
that
are
included
in
the
program,
obviously
city-owned
streets.
They
would
need
to
have
a
posted
speed
limit
of
30
miles
per
hour
or
less
and
have
three
lanes
or
fewer.
P
The
idea
behind
that
is
that
the-
and
we
can
talk
about
this
in
terms
of
the
traffic
coming
tool
kit
that
I'll
mention
later
on
and
in
the
report
in
the
presentation,
the
typical
residential
traffic
calming
solutions
aren't
going
to
be
appropriate
for
streets
that
are
larger
than
three
lanes,
and
we
also
only
looked
at
streets
that
had
a
residential
land
use
component.
P
It
doesn't
mean
that
they
would
need
to
be
zoned
residential.
You
know
we
can
have
some
of
you
know.
Mixed
use
or
areas
downtown
where
we
have
a
lot
of
you
know
our
multi-family
apartment
buildings,
we're
not
excluding
those
by
any
means.
P
It
was
more
just
excluding
purely
industrial
areas
or
areas
that
are
only
sort
of
those
heavier
heavier
business
modes
and
then,
finally,
we
only
included
streets
that
are
not
part
of
a
funded
scheduled
or
upcoming
transportation
project,
and
that's
just
because
the
streets
are
already
scheduled
to
have
construction
or
reconstruction
done
on
them.
That
the
you
know
the
goals
of
multiple
streets
program
or
really
the
you
know
the
complete
streets
ordinance.
P
Those
are
going
to
be
taken
into
account
during
that
project
process,
and
so
we
would
rather
retain
the
funds
funds
that
might
get
used
for
the
livable
streets
program.
Keep
those
four
streets
that
aren't
already
receiving
improvements
next
slide.
Please.
P
P
P
Also,
looked
at
vehicle
speeds,
recorded
speeds
and
sort
of
the
difference
between
the
speed
limit
and
then
the
average
speed
of
vehicles
are
traveling
over
that
speed
limit
the
density
of
community
assets
like
park,
schools,
trails
things
like
that
and
within
a
certain
distance
of
each
zone,
we
looked
at
the
number
of
households
within
each
zone,
so
basically
weighting
areas
of
high
density,
more
residents
higher
and
also
included
households
in
each
zone
without
vehicles
we
looked
at
the
presence
of
minority
households
and
I
think
we
also
waited
bike
and
pedestrian
crashes
on
a
as
a
separate
data
point
than
just
vehicle
crashes
as
well.
P
So
all
that
being
said
moving
forward
with
the
implementation
of
the
program,
we
would
seek
to
identify
potential
solutions
for
each
zone
in
conjunction
with
any
applicable
salt
lake
city
transportation
plans,
our
transit
master
plan
or
pedestrian
bicycle
master
plan,
any
transportation
standards
and
best
practices
and
allison
mentioned
that
you
know
we
would
really
need
to
coordinate
with
our
engineering,
public
utilities
and
emergency
services
providers
as
well.
Moving
forward
next
slide,
please.
P
So,
ideally,
the
public
engagement
process
moving
forward
through
implementation,
would
involve
updating
the
program
website
and
you
know
pushing
that
out
through
the
cities
and
transportation
divisions,
virtual
channels,
notifying
the
affected
zones
and
any
community
councils,
and
there
might
be
a
little
bit
of
overlap.
The
zones
aren't,
you
know
perfectly
lined
up
with
community
councils
or
city
council
boundaries,
even
though
we
tried
so
notifying
all
of
them
via
a
postcard
or
flyers.
P
You
know
maybe
lawn
signs
as
well
as
virtual
outreach,
and
then
we
would
host
a
zone
meeting,
so
any
residents
actually
within
the
boundaries
of
those
zones.
And
then
again,
if
there's,
you
know
desire
from
the
community
council
to
have
representation
as
well.
P
We
could
go
to
those
meetings
to
discuss
solutions
and
solicit
input
from
residents
and
really
track
all
of
our
engagement
along
this
time
to
see
how
well
we're
doing
with
capturing
a
variety
of
voices
during
this
project
process
and
be
able
to
show
directly
how
we're
using
that
resident
input
to
inform
the
final
solutions
that
will
be
selected.
P
P
I
do
want
to
say
that
participation
in
the
survey
was
self-selecting
and
I
don't
intend
for
these
results
to
imply
consensus
from
all
city
residents
on
any
of
these
issues,
but
just
rather
they
give
a
little
bit
of
insight
into
how
some
of
our
residents
are
thinking
getting
at
the
broad
picture
of
livability
again
beyond
just
traffic
calming,
we
asked
what
other
priorities
for
the
program
would
be,
and
you
know,
reducing
vehicle
speeds
clearly
came
in
first
folks
were
also
really
interested
in
adding
green
space
or
trees,
and
then
there
was
also
a
lot
of
interest
in
adding
or
enhancing
bike
facilities,
crosswalks
and
connecting
neighborhood
destinations
together
and
street
lighting
was
also
referenced
pretty
frequently
in
the
open-ended
comment
sections.
P
So
it
just
sort
of
gives
an
idea
of
the
different
elements
that
folks
are
thinking
about
when
they
think
about
how
their
neighborhoods
could
be
more
livable
feel
safer
when
they're
traveling
on
the
streets
and
then
this
question
on
the
right
the
pie
chart-
and
this
is
something
that
we'll
discuss
in
the
policy
questions
later
on,
but
just
trying
to
get
at
that.
You
know
we
have
a
finite
budget.
P
P
All
right
so
moving
on
into
the
discussion
and,
hopefully
being
able
to
listen
to
me
talk
less.
We
had
a
few
different
questions
that
I'll
run
through
really
quickly,
and
then
we
can
also
just
answer
any
other
questions
that
may
have
come
up
during
the
presentation,
but
real
quick.
We
did
we
wanted
to
ask
if
you
know
capital
funding
for
implementation
of
the
program
should
go
through
the
cip
process,
or
would
it
need
to
have
an
independent
budget
line
item
there?
P
We
were
wondering:
if
could
funding
for
new
livable
street
staff,
come
from
funding
our
future
revenue
source
and
then
should
the
program
implementation
proceed
through
the
prioritized
list
that
I
mentioned
at
a
city-wide
level,
or
should
it
proceed
through
the
prioritized
zones
but
going
council
district
by
council
district
and
then
is
there
a
desire
to
provide
staff
and
resources
to
respond
to
complaints
with
quick,
build
projects
in
addition
to
implementing
the
prioritized
zones
so
basically
just
having
another
sort
another
way
to
respond
to
resident
complaints
in
real
time?
P
Basically,
so
that
is
it
for
my
presentation,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
clarifying
questions
about
anything
that
came
up
during
the
presentation
or
anything
else.
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
presentation
and
before
I
get
to
questions
council
members,
the
policy
questions
that
transportation
provided
in
that
last
slide
are
on
page
five
of
the
staff
report,
just
so
that
we
don't
have
to
have
that
slide
up.
So
I
can
see
everybody's
tile
if
you
want
to
refer
to
that.
As
we
have
these
discussions
and
then
the
staff
suggested
policy.
Questions
are
also
on
page
five
and
there's
some
good
questions
here.
So
I
imagine
we'll
be
getting
to
the
majority
of
them
ish
dennis.
J
I
did
thank
you
real
quick,
laura
what
about
neighborhood
streets
that
have
a
posted
speed
limit
over
30
miles
an
hour.
Ninth
west,
for
example,
has
35
posted
but
has
received
a
lot
of
complaints
lately.
P
It's
a
good
question:
we
again
we
put
that
limitation
in
there
just
due
to
the
effectiveness
of
the
tools
suggested
in
the
toolkit
which
are
found
in
the
the
full
liberal
states
report.
P
So
I
think
that
any
streets
that
again
are
either
wider
than
that
three
lanes
or
higher
than
30
mile
per
hour.
Speed
limit
would
need
to
be
approached
and
more
a
more
not
I
mean
I
don't
want
to
say
more
holistic
because
we're
looking,
we
would
like
level
the
streets
to
be
a
holistic
program,
but
maybe
a
little
higher
level
of
reconstruction
in
order
to
slow
vehicle
speeds
effectively.
K
My
question
is
from
the
funding
our
future
question.
Question
number
three
in
the
packet
can
we
use
or
sorry
question
two
in
the
packet?
Can
we
use
funding
our
future
dollars
for
this
and
where
would
it
be?
Where
are
we
currently
using
them
where
we
could
use
them
for
this.
H
So,
overall,
I
don't
know
if
john
you
want
to
respond
to
that
question.
I
assume
you
know
the
transportation
side
of
it
in
general
council
member
wharton,
the
funding
our
future
dollars
are
limited
for
spending
in
a
number
of
categories
which
you're
probably
familiar
with
public
safety,
housing
transportation.
I
think
it's
streets
and
transportation.
If
I
remember
correctly
so
we
would
be
competing
in
in
essence,
four
dollars
with
those,
but
perhaps
the
transportation
folks
want
to
elaborate
on
this.
O
Sure-
and
you
know,
obviously
anything
I
say
is
caviar
with
the
fact
that
that's
completely
a
council
decision,
but
our
reasoning
of
even
bringing
up
the
question
was
that
this
is
com.
It
seems
like
it
it's
kind
of
in
a
place
that
is
an
overlap
of
street
infrastructure
and
public
safety.
O
You
know
some
people
refer
to
speed
bumps,
as
the
you
know,
a
sleeping
police
officer,
because
this
provides
24,
7,
speed
reduction
and
so
that
that
was
our
reasoning
of
even
bringing
up
the
question.
But
you
know,
obviously
that's
that's
a
policy
decision
that.
C
Yeah,
I
was
just
gonna
pop
on
to
clarify
that
that
the
council
is
entirely
in
control
of
what
funding
our
future
is
spent
on,
and
I
think
that
the
council
has
tried
to
stay
true
to
the
what
was
sort
of
originally
promised
to
the
public
and
sort
of
in
in
terms
of
those
general
categories
that
allison
mentioned,
but
like,
for
example,
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
the
definition
of
public
safety,
the
council
has
evolved
that
definition
of
public
safety
as
fire
and
ems
and
dispatch
is
clearly
a
an
element
of
public
safety
that
that
funding
our
future
now
goes
to,
and
so
I
think
that
john's
point
that
there's
a
public
safety
element
this,
I
think,
as
long
as
the
council
or
city
communicates
that
to
the
public.
C
I
think
that
that
was
the
commitment
was
just
to
be
transparent
about
how
those
dollars
are
spent
and
to
track
how
those
dollars
are
spent.
I
think
the
bigger
challenge
will
be
the
trade-offs
within
that
funding.
Our
future
category
right.
All
of
those
items
are
important
and
it's
not
an
unlimited
resource
either.
So
I
think
that
that's
just
the
balancing
act.
B
F
Yeah
thanks,
madam
chair,
I
I
guess
why
do
we
even
I?
I
agree
that
this
is
a
public
safety
thing.
This
is
clearly
making
our
streets
safer.
Children
and
pets
will
be
safer
on
our
streets,
but
why
do
we
even
need
to
do
that
because
it
seems
like
it
would
also
fit
into
the
streets
category
pretty
comfortably
or
when
the
council,
before
I
was
on
the
council,
adopted
that
streets
category?
Was
it
narrowly
tailored.
C
It
was
fairly,
it
was
fairly
narrowly
tailored
in
terms
of
it
was.
It
was
intended
to
address
the
perception
or
the
experience
that
the
infrastructure
was
not
well
maintained,
right,
like
potholes
and
stuff
like
that,
so
that
was
kind
of
narrow.
I
don't
think
that
I
think
that
the
semantics
of
does
it
fit
in
a
category
or
not
is
sort
of
like
the
least
important
question,
because
really
the
council
could
spend
that
money
on
anything
you
wanted.
C
The
most
important
question
is:
are
there
enough
funding
our
future
dollars
to
address
all
the
things
right
like?
Would
you
spend
less
on
affordable
housing
in
order
to
accommodate
this?
Would
you
spend
less
on
transportation
in
order
to
accommodate
this?
So
it's
a
it's
a
finite
pie
and
while
it
does
grow
a
little
bit
every
year,
it
doesn't,
you
know,
grow
infinitely
every
year,
so
to
the
extent
that
you
add
a
ton
of
things
into
the
umbrella
of
funding
our
future,
it
just
increases
the
sort
of
competition
among
those
items
within
funding.
Our
future.
M
A
question
about
timing,
based
on
what
jennifer
was
saying
about
funding
our
future.
You
can
say
exactly
the
same
thing
about
cip
and
we
have
tried
to
push
any
new
funding
for
things
that
qualify
as
capital
through
the
cip
process,
so
that
we
don't
so
that
we
can
have
everything
in
context
in
one
place
so
that
we
can
have
the
impact
free
money,
the
class
c
road
fund
money,
the
funding,
our
future
money
and
the
cip
money
all
considering
one
context.
M
So
I
would
suggest
that
you
keep
that
in
mind
as
you
evaluate
this
program,
but
I
also
wanted
to
ask
the
administration
if
they
would
anticipate
that
this
would
go
through
the
regular
budget
process
so
that
the
mayor
can
weigh
it
against
the
other
city
needs
or
are
they
looking
for
a
a
time
situation
where
they
get
an
answer
now
and
it's
baked
into
the
mayor's
budget
and
the
and
and
possibly
the
council's
budget?
I'm
I'm
just
not
quite
familiar
with
whether
this
would
be
held.
O
I
can
jump
in.
That's
okay.
Just
share
some
thoughts
on
that
yeah.
I
we're,
I
think,
we're
pretty
open
and
hanging
on
to
your
point
cindy
that
I
think
that
there's,
there's
extra
seems
to
be
extra
transparency
when
these
sorts
of
initiatives
get
considered
as
part
of
the
regular
budget
cycle
right
as
part
of
whether
it's
the
main
budget
or
the
cip
budget,
and
so
you
know
if
this
is
something
that
there
isn't
formal
action
until
the
fy
23
budget.
That's
maybe
the
cleanest
way
to
do
it.
O
But
if
you
know,
if
council
said
hey,
we
want
to
find
money
and
we
want
to
we
want.
We
don't
want
to
wait
that
long.
You
know
we're
we're
willing
to
act
as
as
fast
as
you
are.
So
I
don't
know
if,
if
that's
helpful
or
not,
but.
M
Okay,
yeah.
That
is
helpful.
I
just
with
the
bit
of
uncertainty
that
was
in
that
we
all
together,
worked
on
in
this
adoption
of
this
year's
budget
council
members
with
the
addition
of
the
police,
salary
changes
and
several
employees,
and
things
like
that.
It
would
be
a
little
unusual
to
add
three
more
employees
mid-year
and
create
a
large
program.
M
You
could
do
it
and
we
know
that
it
is
a
priority
of
yours.
It
would
just
be
difficult
if
later
in
the
budget
deliberations,
you
look
back
and
said.
Oh,
we
wish
we
had
that
million
dollars
or
that
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
So
it's
a
pretty
big
decision
to
make
mid-year,
but
it
can
be
done.
B
F
Yeah
a
couple
questions
moving
on
from
where
the
money
will
come
from
I,
for
my
part,
I
think
that
it
does
fit
into
funding
our
future,
but
I
don't
really
care
where
it
comes
from.
I
know
this
is
like
a
constant
request
of
my
constituents
and
I
think
everyone
so
no
matter
where
it
comes
from.
We
need
to
find
it
that's
the
way
I
see
this
but
question
on
the
700
to
1
million
dollars
a
year.
O
You
know,
I
think,
probably
the
best
thing
we
have
for
context
is
the
constituent,
cip,
requests
that
have
come
through
and
those
very
we
were
already
kind
of
nudging
constituents
in
that
direction
with
with
their
requests
and
the
cost
estimates
for
those
have
ranged
from.
F
O
Yeah
that
that's
a
a
fair,
a
fair
concern-
I
just
don't-
I
just
didn't-
want
to
come
in
here-
saying
you
know:
hey
10
million
a
year,
let's,
let's
get
let's
get
rolling
from
where
I
said
our
biggest
constraint
right
now
is
keeping
up
with
the
the
constituent
requests
that
have
been
funded
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
It's
it's
really
it's
the
staff
time
that-
and
you
know
many
of
you
have
seen
as
we've
been
engaging
with
many
of
your
your
constituents
to
do
it.
O
Right,
takes
a
tremendous
amount
of
engagement
and
listening
and
hand
holding
and
adjusting
dealing
with
people
changing
their
minds
or
new
residents
coming
in
and
saying
wait.
O
I
missed
the
first
half
of
this
conversation,
but
now
I
want
to
really
engage
you
have
to
you
know
it's
a
lot
of
it's
a
lot
of
time,
and
that
means
staff,
and
so
I
would
say
you
know
the
most
urgent
thing
for
us
would
just
be
having
people
to
even
catch
up
with
what
with
our
backlog
and
then
I
think,
the
the
capital
from
there
expanding
you
know,
adding
more
capital
money
into
the
mix
would
be
easier.
F
F
But
I
would
from
what
I
hear
most
of
the
people.
I've
talked
to
and
ask
this
exact
question
are
interested
in
just
creating
the
safety,
even
if
that
sacrifices
in
the
short
term
or
even
in
the
mid
to
long
term
the
beauty
of
the
street
to
a
degree
like
and
we're
talking
about,
like
you
know,
the
big
metal
troughs
or
their
concrete
planters
that
get
sat
in
the
middle
of
the
road
or
those
flexible
delineators.
F
Those
like
reflector
sticks
that
get
glued
to
the
ground.
I
mean
they're
cheap
and
fast
and
they're
not
the
most
attractive,
but
they
do
seem
to
work
and
most
of
the
people
that
I've
talked
to
said.
I
just
want
my
kids
to
be
safe,
so
I
would
be
interested
in
that
quick,
fast
solution
as
a
short-term
measure,
if
doing
it
right
is
going
to
take
us
60
years.
I
L
L
So
I
and
I
kind
of
I'll
echo
what
darren
was
saying.
The
faster
cheaper
model
sometimes
does
have
a
lot
of
turmoil
in
some
of
the
local
in
the
neighborhoods,
because
people
don't
all
agree
to
defeat
the
faster
the
cheaper.
But
I
think
if
we
can
do
that,
maybe
in
concert
with
more
of
the
the
long-term
one
but
you're
right.
If,
if
it's
going
to
take
us
for
a
long
time
to
do
113,
you
know
zones,
then
maybe
in
parallel
with
that
we
do
the
few
the
faster,
the
cheaper
ones.
L
At
the
same
time,
I
have,
if
we're
not
if
we're
finished
with
that
discussion,
I
have
one
more
question,
but
I
can
hold
off
on
my
my
next
question.
L
My
one
question
is-
and
it's
perfectly
normal
to
do
that,
but
I
also
want
to
look
at
the,
and
this
maybe
go
to
the
faster
or
cheaper
is
the
preventable
zones.
You
know
we
an
intersection
doesn't
have
hasn't.
Had
a
fatality
hasn't
had
a
crash
hasn't
had
a
kid
get
hit
by
a
car,
but
it's
had
a
lot
of
near
misses,
and
I
know
those
are
probably
not
tracked
very
well,
but
how
do
we?
L
How
do
we,
I
don't
know,
quantify
that
side
of
the
other,
the
problem,
because
I'd
rather
I
want
to
prevent
the
next
fatality
with
it
with
a
calming
project
and
not
wait
for
the
fatality
to
have
the
project
and
so
in
the
future
that
we
needed.
I
think
we
need
to
just
think
about
how
we
prioritize
the
preventative
side
of
the
street
calming
not
just
the.
P
Sorry,
my
internet
being
a
little
bad.
I
you
hit
the
nail
on
the
head
that
it's
incredibly
difficult
to
quantify
near
misses.
I
don't
know
how
we
would
do
specifically
that
I
think
that
it
is
something
that
we
have
tried
to
get
at
through
some
of
the
other
metrics
in
the
prioritization
process,
one
that
I
think
gets
at
it.
P
Generally
speaking,
obviously
there
are
neighborhood
streets
where
you
got
kids
playing
the
street
and
that's
another
point
of
conflict,
but
maybe
it's
not
right
near
a
park
or
a
grocery
store,
but
I
think
that
that
is
one
way
that
we
can
try
and
quantify
the
the
maybes
just
any
place
where
you
have
a
lot
of
folks
crossing
the
street
you're
going
to
have
a
higher
potential
for
those
sorts
of
crashes,
even
if
they
haven't
actually
happened
yet.
P
So
just
thinking
about
how
many
pedestrians
have
the
potential
to
be
on
the
streets
or
crossing
the
streets,
so
I'm
you
know,
I'm
sure
that,
as
with
most
things,
there
there's
other
ways
to
approach
it
and
additional
ways
to
look
at
it,
but
that
that's
how
we
looked
at
it
through
the
bounds
of
this
program,
at
least.
H
K
Thanks
no
problem,
I
would
just
echo
laura's
response
there
to
council
member
dugan.
K
Another
great
asset
is
just
the
community
members
as
far
as
the
eyes
and
ears
on
the
street
that
send
complaints
to
us
as
this
really
unofficial
data
source,
as
it
relates
to
the
near
miss,
maybe
unrecorded
type
of
events-
and
I
also
just
wanted
to
echo
john
in
response
to
cindy
gus,
jensen's,
really
thoughtful
question
about
the
timing,
and
I
know
that
we've
been
eager
to
to
wrap
this
study
up,
have
some
data-driven
recommendations
to
present
to
the
council,
and
just
in
my
role,
this
is
the
the
number
one
issue
that
the
transportation
team
brings
to
me
as
it
relates
to
you
know,
community
concerns
and
then
also
the
number
one
requester
meetings
that
that
we
have
with
with
council
members.
K
So
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
reiterate
that,
due
to
that
demand
and
sense
of
urgency,
that
we
have
is
why
we
came
forward
now
with
sort
of
a
suite
of
options
and
look
for
your
direction
and
are
amenable
to
whatever
process.
Of
course,
that
you
want
to
run,
but
also
I
didn't
want
to
sit
on
our
hands
knowing
the
timeliness.
So
thanks
for
the
opportunity.
K
That's
okay,
so
I
have
that
several
questions
so,
first
of
all,
a
lot.
A
lot
of
people
think
that
the
issue
is
about
enforcement
of
just
the
existing
speed
limits
or
or
whatever,
and
we
made
you
know.
I
know
that
our
our
police
officers
are
are
already
strained
and
that
this
is
not
really
something
you
can
do
when
you're
trying
to
go
call
to
call
a
call
to
answer
our
backlog.
K
K
Are
those
effective
at
all
and
is
this
something
that
we
could
use
if
they
are
like
we
passed?
You
know
we
put
two
million
dollars
aside
for
a
pilot
program
for
non-law
enforcement
enforcement,
and
could
we
access
that
to
help
with
part
of
this
or
is
this
have
to
be
physical
changes
to
the
street.
P
To
take
a
first
swing
at
the
oh
support,
john,
I
mean
it's
a
great
it's
a
great
question
and
thank
you
for
that
councilmember
wharton.
I
I
think
that
I
would
say
one
I
I
can't
speak
to
the
effectiveness
of
you
know
word
of
mouth,
there's
a
a
week-long,
a
month-long
sting
and
we
issue
a
bunch
of
tickets.
P
I
can't
speak
to
the
effectiveness
of
that
honestly,
but
what
I
would
say
is
that,
no
matter
how
hard
we
hit
the
enforcement
piece,
it's
not
going
to
capture
everyone
and
I
think,
even
going
back
to
what
council
member
dugan
was
asking,
we
want
to
prevent
these
issues
before
they
turn
into
crashes
or
fatalities,
and
enforcement
is
largely
reactionary
to
folks
causing
problems,
and
we
would
love
to
be
able
to
create
these
physical
implementations
to
prevent
the
behavioral
problems
that
that
speeding
and
irresponsible
drivers
can
bring
to
the
streets.
P
O
I'll
just
add
that
studies
that
I've
seen
have
shown
that
a
police
presence
is
highly
effective
at
getting
people
to
comply
with
the
posted
speed
limit,
but
that,
basically
the
minute
the
police
car
is
gone.
People
go
back
to
speeding.
K
Okay
and
then-
and
that
was
kind
of
what
I
suspected
would
be
the
answer
and
then
in
the
presentation
it
said
you
know,
working
talked
about
working
with
neighbors
and,
and
you
know
developing
strategies,
and
I
think
that
that
certainly
is
appreciated
and
a
lot
of
neighbors
will
want
to
be
to
participate
in
that,
but
I
also
worry.
I
also
think
that
a
lot
of
people
feel
like
we
already
know
the
problem.
You
know
that
this
presentation
you've
given
basically
give
us
the
data
that
we
need.
Why
do
we?
K
You
know
why
can't
we
just
pay
to
implement
it
and
why
isn't
that
like?
And
why
doesn't
the
implementation
kind
of
save
us
money
at
some
point,
because
once
we've
implemented
so
much
so
many
changes
that
it
would
ideally
become
less
of
a
burden
on
staff
time,
because
in
theory
these
changes
are
going
to
work
right
or
they're
going
to
help.
K
K
The
mind
of
residents
that
I
talked
to
that
this
is
one
of
the
city's
main
jobs
to
make
sure
that
people
aren't
speeding
and
make
sure
streets
are
safe
and
try
to
prevent.
You
know
kids
and
pets
from
getting
hit
by
cars,
and
so
I
think,
in
the
public's
mind,
in
terms
of
their
view
like
this,
would
be
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
we
could
find
so.
K
I
I
want
to
try
to
fund
it,
and
I
want
to
find
a
way
I
just
want
to
find
the
best
the
best
way
to
do
that
and
get
the
most
sort
of
bang
for
our
buck
and
yeah.
So
if
you
could
speak
to
that,
that
would
be
great.
P
Nice
very
quick
clarification.
That's
number
one
just
so
I
don't
go
off
on
a
tangent
that
you
weren't
actually
asking
about.
Are
you
saying
that
you're
concerned
about
staff
time
just
in
terms
of
the
level
of
involvement
required
for
each
zone
and
as
we
go
down
the
line
and
hopefully
prove
that
it's
effective
that
we
would
be
able
to
reduce
staff
times
within
each
zone?.
K
K
I
know
that
that
takes
up
a
lot
of
of
your
bandwidth
and
I'm
wondering
if
you
know
if
we
take
if
we
put
money
towards
a
solution
that
that
calms
traffic
is
that,
like
in
theory,
that's
going
to
give
you
guys
more
bandwidth
to
deal
with
all
the
other
transportation
issues
that
we
ask
you
to
deal
with,
that.
Don't
involve
talking
to
the
public
about
traffic
calming.
K
So
I
guess
I'm
trying
to
understand
like
where
you
know
if
we
spend
a
little
bit
of
money
here,
is
that
going
to
give
us
more
of
a
result
over
here
versus
you
know,
just
what's
the
smartest
way
for
us
to
spend,
and
if
I
know
that,
then
I
feel
like
I
can
underst.
I
can
it's
easier
for
me
to
make
decisions
about
where
I
should
take
money
from
another
priority.
O
Yeah,
I
can,
I
can
jump
in
on
that
yeah
I
mean
so.
For
example,
you
know
in
your
in
your
district,
councilmember
wharton.
You
know
we
have
kyle
cook
who's,
an
engineer
that
we
hired
yeah.
We
we
hired,
we
staffed
up,
as
part
of
you
know,
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
funding
our
future
program.
O
You
know
with
the
the
new
bus
service
and
the
you
know:
rebuilding
roads,
streets
is
complete
streets,
and
you
know
kyle
was
he's
a
project
manager
on
the
600
north
project,
the
second
south
project
and
then
probably
half
a
dozen
other
smaller
projects,
which
already
is
kind
of
more
than
you
would
typically
want
to
ask
a
project
manager,
but
then
he
also
put
in
a
tremendous
amount
of
effort
developing
you
know
some
preliminary
plans
with
the
west
capitol
hill
neighborhood,
and
just
because
he's
that
good,
I
guess
he
found
the
time
to
to
do
it
he's
very
good,
but
there
were
a
few
projects
that
that
got
slowed
down
some
of
the
kind
of
the
medium-sized
projects.
O
You
know
the
really
big
the
bond
projects,
those
are
still
on
track,
but
there
there
were
a
couple
of
you
know,
maybe
small,
to
medium-sized
projects
that
maybe
took
a
little
bit
of
a
hit
because
of
the
amount
of
engagement
he
had
to
put
in
basically
with
with
traffic
calming.
O
And
so
I
don't
know
if
this
is
exactly
what
you're
asking,
but
having
staff
that
could
be
dedicated
to
traffic
calming
issues
would
would
absolutely
free
up
existing
staff
to
focus
more
on
the
the
collector
and
arterial
and
neighborhood
byway
projects
and
the
transit
funding.
Our
future
implementation,
because
right.
K
Was
maybe
it
was
more
like
if
we
did
an
infusion
of
money
now?
Does
that
necessary
to
address
some
of
these
problems
and
and
clear
up
staff
time?
Is
there
any?
I
mean
those
are
just
going
to
continue
to
be
ongoing
costs
right.
O
How
that's
how
I
see
it
is
regardless
of
how
we
approach
it
now.
You
know
50
70
years
from
now.
I
think
this
will
still
be
an
issue
that
we'll
still
be
wanting
to
improve
upon
you
know
kind
of
like
staying,
healthy
and
and
fit.
I
think
it's
I
see
it
as
just
part
of
having
healthy
streets
that
it
takes.
I
think
it'll
just
be
an
ongoing
effort.
F
To
chris's
point,
or
maybe
something
that
I
was
just
thinking
of
while
you
were
talking,
is-
is
there
I.
I
know
that
I
personally
have
asked
a
lot
of
your
staff
in
responding
to
my
constituents,
complaints
and
thank
you
so
much
for
being
willing
to
do
that.
I
imagine
other
council
members
are
doing
the
same
thing
and
I
can
only
imagine
how
much
time
that
takes
away
from
like
actually
planning
projects,
even
that
may
already
be
funded.
F
So
is
there
a
way
that
this
program
could
be
structured
so
that
we
can
reduce
that,
and
I
guess
the
it
seems
like
if
there's
a
a
formal
process
that
it
happens,
and
maybe
it's
similar
to
cip.
But
it's
like
a
separate
process
that
happens.
I
don't
know
exactly
how
to
do
it,
but
can
we
funnel
that
constituent,
energy
and
time
into
this
like
thing
that
gets
so
that
it
takes
time
off
of
your
staff
shoulder?
F
So
maybe
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
hire
three
more
people,
we're
just
like
freeing
up
time
of
your
current
staff
by
setting
in
policy
a
process
that,
where
constituents
can,
you
know
very
clearly
record,
what's
happening
and
give
the
feedback
ask
for
the
questions.
Maybe
there's
a
way
that
they
can
survey
or
petition
their
neighbors.
O
Yeah,
I
don't
know
that's
pretty
hard
to
to
quantify.
I
mean
with
our
request
of
three
fftes:
that's
based
on
you
know
what
we've
been
hearing
and
you
know,
and
just
what
I'm
observing
of
staff
time
we've.
You
know
any
given
time.
We
have
probably
eight
staff
members
that
are
touching
traffic,
calming
issues
in
some
way
or
another,
and
so
I
mean
that's
really
hard
to
to
quantify.
O
You
know
how
much
of
their
time
exactly,
but
you
know
these
staff
tentatively,
you
know
if
we
moved
ahead
with
this,
I
would
actually
have
them
report
to
the
the
manager
over
over
safety,
so
they
would
be.
It
would
be
its
own
team
really
separate
from
jeff
golden's
team,
which
is:
does
the
the
project
delivery,
the
project
management,
and
so
it
it
would
really
help
to.
O
You
know,
because
then
you'd
have
specific
people
that
can
they
can
handle
those
requests,
and
you
know-
and
part
of
this
would
be
you
know,
we're
we'd
be
learning
all
together
that
you
know
we,
I
think
we
have
laura's
work,
which
is,
I
think,
would
set
us
up
really
well
to
get
a
good
running
start
at
this,
but
I
can
guarantee
if,
if
we
get
this
program
going
two
to
three
years
from
now,
it
will
look
a
little
bit
different
than
we
thought
it
would,
because
you
get
going
and
you
make
adjustments
and
kind
of
counts.
O
My
romano,
that
your
your
idea
of
you
know,
processes
and
intake
forms
and
things
that
to
help
streamline
it
and
I'm
sure
we'd
be
able
to
figure
out
some
of
those
things
and
make
tweaks
so
that
it
felt
fair
and
everyone
was
heard.
You
know,
I
think,
that's
a
big.
O
Is
making
sure
that
when
people
have
these
concerns
right
now,
you
know
it's.
O
Having
to
pull
from
other
resources
to
to
address
them,
but
having
dedicated
staff
would
be
an
absolute
game
changer
as
far
as
having
people
that
this
is
all
they
think
about
all
day,
is
how
do
we?
How
do
we
make
our
streets
more?
You
know
specifically
residential
streets,
more
livable
in
the
city,
and
you
know
that's
really
powerful.
When
you're
able
to
do
that
and
then
you
know,
we
have
a
group
to
channel
these.
These
concerns
to.
J
John,
I
guess
I'm
I'm
a
little
disappointed.
I
I
definitely
love
this
program
and
want
to
see
it
go
forward
and
definitely
fund
it
as
needed,
but
just
much
like
councilmember
dugan's
point:
how
can
we
be
more
proactive
and
actually
design
streets
that
don't
need
to
be
retrofitted
to
be
safe?
I
mean
we
know
that
our
residential
streets
are
way
too
being
traveled
at
far
too
high
speed.
O
Yeah
councilman
ferris.
I
really
appreciate
that
that
question
and
comment
that
that
we
are
trying
to
do
that
with
a
lot
of
the
complete
street
transformations
that
are
happening
and
the
council
has
funded
in
recent
years.
The
600
north
project,
I
think,
is
a
great
example
of
that.
O
The
night
south
project,
where
we're
reducing
almost
by
half
the
the
width
of
the
pavement
in
order
to
get
an
urban
trail,
really
tight,
turn
radii,
so
that
people
turning
on
and
off
the
street
have
to
really
slow
down
and
every.
O
J
And
I
do
love
where
those
projects
are
going.
Can
we
have
just
a
at
least
a
handful
of
definite
steps,
whether
it's
not
speed
bumps
but
dips
or
traffic
signs
speed,
monitor
signs
I
mean,
is
something
to
an
a
la
carte
menu
to
be
able
to
choose
from
that.
We
can
implement
in
more
places
more
quickly
like
what
councilman
romano
was
saying,
a
shorter
term
quicker
response,
something
that
can
get
us
somewhere
quickly,
even
if
it's
not
quite
all
the
way
and
but
relatively
cheaply,.
O
If
you
look
at
you
know
each
each
potential
tool
in
the
toolkit
and
that's
not
an
exhaustive
list,
but
it
each
one
is
identified
as
ones
that
can
be
permanent
implement.
O
You
know
the
kind
of
the
higher
cost
permanent
installations
versus
the
kind
of
the
quick
action
installations,
but
again
the
you
know,
as
it
takes
a
lot
of
staff
time,
it's
almost
the
same
amount,
sometimes
even
more
staff
time
to
do
the
quick
installation
as
as
the
permanent
ones,
but
I'm
hoping
that
if
we
can
get
a
good
rhythm
kind
of
like
what
councilmember
wharton
was
alluding
to.
I
think
that
you,
you
get
some
proven
stuff
in
the
city
that
people
feel
comfortable
with
that.
O
Maybe
we
can
go
faster
with
some
of
those
lower
cost
things
in
particular.
O
So
you
know,
I
think
someone
mentioned
you
know,
maybe
some
sort
of
hybrid,
where
we
we
still
keep
the
slow
churn
of
the
more
permanent
things,
but
then
be
covering
as
much
ground
as
possible
with
some
of
the
the
low-cost
quick
action
items.
That's
something
that
you
know.
I
would
absolutely
embrace
thank.
M
Yes,
they
you've
talked
a
lot
about
the
collaboration
with
other
departments,
which
is
really
great.
So
a
couple
of
things
one
is
have-
and
you
may
have
already
mentioned
this
and
I
missed
it.
M
But
have
you
looked
at
the
potential
to
collaborate
when
when
streets
are
just
being
resurfaced,
just
the
very
basic
resurfacing,
because
I
think
quite
a
bit
of
the
funding,
our
future
interest
from
the
public
is
in
getting
their
streets
out
of
the
very
poor
condition
that
they're
in
so
it
does
your
program
contemplate
any
way
to
collaborate
on
that
level
and
then
a
second
question
I
had
because
I'm
just
not
clear
is
engineering.
O
Yeah,
those
are
some
great
questions,
so
the
anything
that
requires
that
it
gets
a
little
bit
of
a
gray
area.
Anything
that
becomes
construction
goes
through
engineering,
but
the
quick
action
stuff
would
we'd
be
able
to
be
managed
by
the
transportation
division
and
then
to
the
the
resurfacing
question.
Yeah,
there's
there's
a
lot
you
can
do
with
pain
and
delineators.
O
You
know,
and
I
think
a
great
example
of
that
is
the
you
may
have
noticed
on
second
east
from
going
going
south
from
about.
I
think
it's
I
think
we
got
all
the
way
up
to
fourth
south
all
the
way
to
ninth
south
just
this
last
month,
we
it
we
didn't,
need
two
lanes
of
travel
vehicular
travel
in
each
direction
to
handle
the
the
traffic
because
it
peels
off,
you
know
to
to
get
onto
the
freeway,
and
so
we
we
narrowed
it
up.
O
Put
in
angled
parking
in
the
middle
of
the
street
worked
closely
with
the
fire
department
to
make
sure
the
design
met
their
needs
and
added
in
really
high
comfort
bike
lanes,
and
so
it
was,
you
know
we
really
get
everyone
happy,
but
it
just
it
changed
the
whole
feel
of
that
of
that
street.
It's
a
lot
more.
It
feels
a
lot
more
kind
of
people-oriented.
It's
a
lot
harder
to.
O
You
know
to
drag
race
on
it
now
because
it
with
the
the
angled
parking
and
the
buffered
bike
lanes,
you
kind
of
have
to
be
alert
as
a
driver
and
really
watch
out
for
people,
and
that
was
relatively
low
cost.
At
the
same
time,
we
also
redid
third
east,
and
this
was
in
close
collaboration
with
streets.
I
need
to
give
them
a
lot
of
credit,
because
it's
a
it's
kind
of
a
headache
for
them,
because
they
can't
just
sure
you
know
go
full
steam.
O
They
have
to
you,
know,
slow
down
a
little
bit
shuffle
things
to
be
able
to
collaborate
with
us
and
they
were
an
awesome
partner,
but
we
did
second
and
thirties
at
the
same
time
and
kind
of
refreshed.
The
design
thirties
was
our
first
experiment
as
a
city
ten
years
ago
in
a
parking
protected
bike
lane,
and
we
got
a
lot
of
feedback
that
that
neighborhood
kind
of
felt
like
we
were
just
experimenting
on
them
and
it
was
kind
of
ugly.
I
I
think
this
new
design
is
a
lot
more
clean.
O
It
looks
really
nice.
We
did
both
of
those
streets.
The
the
extra
paint
that
we
had
to
to
add
on
above
and
beyond
what
streets
did
they
did
the
long
kind
of
the
long
straight
lines,
but
that.
A
M
And
I'm
what
I'm
wondering
is
if
you,
if
you've,
if
you
already
feel
like
you've,
maximized
the
opportunity
for
that
within
your
current
plan
or
if
it's
worth
in
light
of
the
funding
limitations,
is
it?
Is
it
worth
taking
a
little
bit
of
an
extra
look
at
how
you
can
coordinate
with
that
funding
our
future
money?
That
is
designed
for
the
street
repair
and
street,
paving
to
add
to
that
to
get
the
the
better
product
that
you're
looking
at
sorry,
that
would
be
my
dog.
O
Dog's
endorsing
the
the
conversation
right
yeah,
I
feel
like
we're,
we've
pretty
much
maximized.
O
M
The
staffing
problem
of
engineering,
so,
to
the
caveat
that
that
anything
that
includes
engineering,
would
be
the
construction
which
would
mean
we
would
need
to
get
them
some
help
financially.
Probably.
B
Maybe
not
okay,
council
members,
anything
else
right
now.
H
I
just
wanted
to
mention.
I
think
there
was
some.
I
don't
know
it
was
underlying
or
overlapping
conversation.
H
Just
now
about
the
question
of
where
the
council
members
are
on
board
with
the
idea
of
the
systematic
prioritization,
in
other
words,
taking
data
and
using
data
to
decide
where,
in
the
city,
these
these
sort
of
efforts
should
be
focused
versus
something
like
going
through
the
cip
process,
which,
as
we
know,
tends
to
favor
neighbors
groups
of
neighbors,
who
are
organized
enough
and
experienced
enough
to
be
able
to
put
cip
requests
forward.
So
I
don't.
H
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
that
I
think
the
underlying
idea
of
the
of
this
program
is
to
tend
more
for
this
prioritization,
based
on
a
number
of
data
sources
that
are
mentioned
in
the
report.
It
is
a
different
so
so
there
may
be
some
additional
dilemmas
provoked
by
by
moving
from
that
to
more
of
a
cip
request
model
alex.
M
Sorry
just
a
classified,
I
think
you
don't.
I
don't
think
it
would
require
community
applications
in
order
to
go
through
cip,
because
the
the
departments
often
put
through
cip
requests
so
in
suggesting
that
we
keep
the
process
whole.
M
I
was
not
suggesting
that
we
have
it
be
based
on
the
constituent
approach
because,
as
you
say,
that
that
inserts
a
bias
toward
people
who
have
the
time
and
sophistication
to
to
go
through
that
process,
but
so
I'm
I'm
suggesting
that
the
administration
could
put
it
through
that
process
so
that
it
there's
the
opportunity
to
do
to
maximize
the
funding
through
the
funding,
our
future,
the
cip
class
c
road
funds
and
all
the
others.
So
just
to
clarify
that
was
my
thinking.
I
wasn't
suggesting
that
the
wholesale
community
applications.
B
Great
thank
you.
So
I
just
want
to
wrap
up
here,
and
I
think
this
was
a
good
discussion.
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
everyone
that
was
involved
in
this
project.
It
has
been
a
long
time
coming
and
and
clearly
it
really
is
one
of
the
number
one
things
that
I
think
every
single
one
of
us
hear
from
our
constituents
and
is
incredibly
important.
What
I
would
like
to
see
are
a
couple
of
things.
B
I
would
love
to
see
some,
whether
it
be
through
the
cip,
whether
it
be
a
line
item,
a
real
budget
request
for
this
for
for
us
for
next
year.
I
think
to
cindy's
point
trying
to
find
the
money
in
the
ftes
right
now,
maybe
a
little
difficult
as
we're
already
I
don't
know,
my
calendar
is
already
at
december.
So
that's
where
my
head
goes
right,
but
but
I
really
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
figure
out
a
way
to
annually
fund
this
team.
B
This
dedicated
team,
as
you
mentioned,
john,
where
this
is
all
they
think
about,
I
mean
I'm
sure
it's
what
most
of
your
employees
most
of
your
department,
thinks
about
all
the
time
anyway,
but
has
all
of
these
other
projects
to
work
on,
and
I
would
love
to
really
just
see
how
do
we
implement
this
in
this
team-oriented
dedicated
way
where
we
know-
and
I
think
this
does
fall
in
with
funding
our
future
dollars
and
street
dollars
through
it
kind
of
almost
hits
all
four
of
the
buckets
that
we
have
named
out
of
funding
our
future
right
and
in
some
ways
I
think
that
you
could
say
it
would
hit
the
affordable
housing
bucket
in
creating
walkable
livable
accessible
places
to
to
live
right.
B
I
think
we
can.
We
could
justify
pulling
money
almost
from
all
four
buckets
for
something
like
this,
and
I'd
really
love
to
see
what
this
would
look
like.
The
other
thing,
I'd
really
yes,
darren.
F
Oh,
I
just
wanted
to
say
yes
amy,
I
agree
with
you
and
I
think
that
your
funding
requests
should
be
big.
I
think
give
us
what
it
would
cost
to
actually
do
it
faster
than
one
113th
of
the
city
per
year,
because
I
think
we
need
to
go
faster
than
that.
So
I,
for
my
part,
would
like
to
see
a
big
request
that
we
can
then
scale
back
if
there
are
other
issues,
but
I
would
say,
start
bigger,
then
then.
B
So
the
other
thing
I
would
like
to
say,
as
we
wrap
up,
is.
B
Is
that
I
am
I'm
really
concerned,
and
I
think
that
we've
had
we've
been
on
this
discussion
for
quite
some
time,
so
I
do
want
to
wrap
up
I'm
not
going
to
have
any
more
comments
or
questions
right
now.
This
has
been
a
robust
discussion.
I
appreciate
it
and
I
think
we
can
schedule
more
time.
B
If
need
be
sorry,
my
dog
is
upset
for
some
reason,
but
I
am
really
interested
in
the
policy
questions
that
staff
suggested
regarding
regarding
equity,
both
socioeconomic
equity
and
racial
equity
within
our
city,
and
how
we're
prioritizing
that
in
and
how
you're?
Looking
at
that,
through
the
data
points
that
you
gave
us
with
what
you,
what
how
these
zones
have
been
prioritized
right
with
the
crap.
Those
were
very
measurable
data
points,
how
many
crashes,
how
many
people
were
involved
that
that
kind
of
measurable?
B
If
you
will
but
there's
another
piece
to
this,
and
I
really
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
looking
at
that
priorities
prioritization
through
that
equity
lens,
and
so,
if
I
could
ask,
maybe
just
and
they
don't
have
to
be
long
answers,
but
maybe
just
some
written
answers
to
those
policy.
Questions
that
are
in
the
staff
report.
That
would
be
helpful,
just
as
we
continue.
B
Maybe
this
discussion
in
the
future
and
have
kind
of
a
better
idea
of
how
we're
funding
this
and
where,
where
we're
funding
it
from
and
these
kind
of
different
ideas.
But
clearly
this
is
a
priority
and
I
really
want
to
thank
you
for
for
all
of
the
work
on
this,
and
you
know
to
your
point,
john.
I
think
once
we
get
that
dedicated
team,
we
start
to
understand
and
start
moving.
B
B
Ashley
hadfield
from
our
earlier
discussion,
who
I
we
were,
we
were
early
on
getting
to
her,
and
this
is
in
agenda
item
number
four
of
the
ordinance
change
up
at
the
university
ivory.
Zoning
map
is
here
and
logged
on
and
has
been
patiently
waiting,
and
so
I'd
like
to
turn
the
time
over
to
her
and
give
five
minutes
to
the
applicants
to
address
this
zoning
map.
B
Amendment
and
again,
thank
you
for
logging
on
early
and
then
sitting
through
a
very
long
discussion,
interesting,
but
long
discussion
after
so
thank
you
and
I'll
turn
the
time
over
to
you.
H
I
I
can
okay
well,
thank
you
so
much,
and
thanks
for
letting
us
hop
on
here.
Thank
you
cancel
chair
feller.
My
name
is
scott
bates
and
we
are
excited
to
have
this
opportunity
to
present
and
appreciate
you
allocating
some
time
I'm
going
to
introduce
the
clark
and
christine
ivory
foundation
and
part
of
their
mission,
because
part
of
what
makes
this
project
really
exciting
really
are
two
things.
We
view
it
as
an
innovative
public,
private
partnership,
type
of
project
and
there's
a
component
of
it.
That's
really
unique.
I
The
foundation
being
the
developer
will
donate
all
the
net
profits
from
the
project
to
a
special
scholarship
fund
university
of
utah
to
provide
scholarships
for
students
for
the
next
100
years.
We
we
estimate
that
thousands,
if
not
tens
of
thousands
of
scholarships,
will
result
from
this
project
and
those
those
there
are
two
main
missions
of
the
of
the
foundation
and
that
is
to
provide
educational
opportunities
and
affordable
housing
opportunities.
I
So
obviously,
this
one's
sort
of
a
mix
of
both
the
partnership-
it
really
is
between
the
university
of
utah,
which
will
provide
a
special
scholarship
fund
salt
lake
city,
which
has
been
very
helpful.
So
far
in
making
this
project
happen
in
improving
our
rezone,
the
church
of
jesus
christ,
of
latter-day
saints,
who
has
agreed
to
demolish
an
existing
church
and
lease
the
ground
to
the
foundation
and
then,
of
course,
the
foundation
who
will
develop,
build
and
fund
the
project.
I
So
there
are
two
critical
needs
at
the:
u
one
is
student
housing,
and
this
slide
illustrates
that
need
our
project.
I
think,
will
meet
this
one
and
how
will
it
do
that
the
university
house
project
will
provide
536
students,
a
academically
focused
safe
living
environment,
to
pursue
their
educational
goals?
I
In
addition,
those
students,
through
this
unique
innovative
project,
will
help
the
foundation
and
the
university
of
utah
provide
scholarships
to
students
most
in
need
to
date.
Since
2003,
the
ivory
foundation
has
provided
over
5
800
scholarships
to
students
most
in
need
and
when
I
say
most
in
need,
the
focus
has
been
on
first
generation
students
who
have
never
been
to
their
family
members
have
never
been
to
college
or
hardship
students
who've
had
to
drop
out
due
to
some
unforeseen
financial
hardship.
I
The
foundation
invites
those
students
to
re-enter
the
university
and
complete
their
degrees
and
fund
scholarships.
For
that,
this
university
house
donation
cycle
on
this
screen
simply
illustrates
how
this
will
work.
The
students
who
pay
around
the
university
of
house
will
result
in
profits
to
the
foundation,
which
will
then
be
donated
to
a
special
university
fund
at
a
scholarship
fund.
At
the
u,
and
that
will
for
the
next
100
years,
which
is
the
term
of
the
ground
lease,
provides
scholarships
to
these
students.
I
The
three
things
to
know
is
that
when
we
went
to
design
this,
we
did
three
main
things
and
one
was.
We
reviewed
existing
structures
as
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
are
paying
homage
and
wanting
to
blend
in
well
with.
The
campus.
I
Second
thing
is
that
we
engaged
current
and
racist
graduated
students
to
make
sure
this
was
a
place
that
they
wanted
to
live
in
and
what
they
could
be
excited
about,
and
the
third
is
that
we
went
nationally
to
find
what
the
trends
are
going
in,
and
so
the
first
thing
that
we
learned
going
nationally
was
that
a
need
for
safe
and
secure
open
spaces
for
students,
and
so
this
is
kind
of
where
the
design
came
from
for
having
these
four
buildings.
I
The
second
big
critical
need
was
having
really
good
programmed
common
area
spaces,
and
you
can
see
an
example
of
one
of
our
wings
and
you
have
this
middle
common
core
and
then
these
house
rooms
on
the
top
floor,
where
students
can
come
in
and
gather
and
there's
some
examples
below,
and
then
the
third
thing
that
we
learned
was
that
there's
a
lot
of
advantages
to
student
single
living,
and
this
is
something
that
we're
seeing
nationally
come
in.
So
here's
an
example
of
what
these
units
will.
I
I
So
we're
excited
to
be
together
with
you,
as
you're
kind
of
our
next
step
on
fulfilling
our
mission
to
providing
these
scholarships
for
students
we're
here
today
seeking
a
rezone
from
the
institutional
rmu
which
will
allow
us
to
build
this
and
then
just
for
a
note
too.
We
during
planning
commission,
we
did
submit
a
plan
development,
fine.
B
Sorry,
we
generally
only
get
five
minutes
as
a
presentation.
This
is
amazing
and
I
appreciate
it
so
very
much.
Okay,
if
I
may
do,
can
you
forward
this
along
to
our
council
staff
so
that
we
can
continue
looking
at
it
and
I'm
going
to
see
if
any
council
members
have
any
questions
for
you
perfect.
N
Anna
yeah,
so
the
last
point
that
you
made
it's
that
exception
to
not
build
the
building
towards
the
street
exceptional
housing
that
doesn't
face
a
public
street
there
you
go.
Why
is
that.
I
It
was
because,
as
we
were
looking
at
the
design
of
this,
it
was
for
this
back
building
that
you
see
right
here,
and
this
just
allowed
us
to
kind
of
create
that
secure
common
area
that
was
kind
of
secured
in,
and
so
that's
why
we
kind
of
move
forward
with
that
design.
That
way,
it
does
tie
in.
However,
with
the
other
three
buildings
from
the
sidewalk
through
a
common
walkway
area
that
you
can
see
there
to
the
west
northwest.
N
You
know
I
used
to
live
in
the
dorms
when
I
came
here
and
yeah.
It
does
feel
like
a
campus
right
like
it
does
feel
it
has
that
feeling,
but
it
also
feels
like
excluded
from
the
world.
Like
I,
you
know,
I
I'm
more
of
the
thought
that
I
would
be
you
know,
switching
and
trying
to
make
it
so
that
people
can
can
see
other
people
walking.
N
You
know
on
the
sidewalk,
if
I'm
working
alone
by
myself
at
night,
trying
to
get
to
my
dorm
I'd
rather
see
people
out
right
there
on
the
street
than
inside
right.
But
that's
just
personal.
It's
just
my
opinion
on
that
one,
but
this
is
great
overall.
Thank
you.
B
B
B
Okay,
council
members
on
our
agenda:
we
are
about
20
minutes
ahead
and
we
would
be
taking
a
break.
I
would
like
to
take
a
break
right
now:
let's
take
about
a
20
minute,
break
and
I'll
work
with
staff
to
see
if
we
can
get
our
next
agenda
people
here
about
20
minutes
early,
so
we,
instead
of
breaking
at
4
20,
we'll
come
back
at
4
20
and
continue
our
agenda
there.
Does
that
work
for
everybody
perfect
thanks!
So
much
see
you
soon.
A
A
A
A
B
I
always
think
that
means
we're
going
to
end
early,
but
then
something
happens
that
we
continue,
that
we
don't
it's
actually
like
a
jinx
on
us
anyway.
B
We
are
here
with
the
item
number
seven,
which
is
the
enterprise
resource
planning
project
update,
and
we
have
jennifer
bruno
from
city
council,
our
city,
council,
deputy
director
and
noel
walking
shot
our
chief
innovation
officer,
lisa
schaefer,
our
chief
administration,
administrative
officer,
is
also
here
so
first
turn
the
time
over
to
jen.
Thank
you.
Jen
thanks.
C
Madam
chair,
I
think
that
the
timing
of
this
briefing
is
a
good
one.
There's.
This
is
sort
of
the
official
kickoff
if
you
will
to
actually
launching
this
project
that
has
been
discussed
for
many
years,
I'll
kind
of
frame
it
from
the
council
perspective.
C
Since
that's
kind
of
the
role
I
play
on
the
team
and
and
really
over
the
years,
the
council
has
been
interested
and
sometimes
frustrated
and
evaluating
the
budget,
because
we're
limited
by
the
data
that
we
collect
and
how
we
collect
it
and
how
we
keep
it
and
how
we
manage
it,
and
so
that
has
caused
a
few
times
during
the
budget
process
for
us
to
get
a
little
frustrated
with
not
being
able
to
evaluate
programs
against
each
other
right
in
the
budget
process
and
and
make
those
adjustments
and
a
lot
of
it
has
to
do
with
how
we
collect
and
manage
data,
because
of
the
way
that
the
city's
financial
system
is
structured
and
all
the
dozens
of
programs,
literally
dozens
of
programs
that
collect
data
for
different
functions
in
the
city.
C
It's
not
that
the
administrative
staff
is
resistant
to
the
analysis,
it's
that
we
literally
don't
keep
and
collect
and
track
the
data
in
the
way
that
we
could
so
the
council
funding
this
erp
and
kind
of
officially
kicking
it
off
is
putting
us
on
this
path
to
being
able
to
look
at
the
city's
data
in
a
way
to
actually
make
informed
decisions
with
it
and
communicate
it
to
the
public,
which
is
probably
a
second
most
important
goal
here.
G
G
G
But
you
know,
we've
been
talking
about
enterprise
resource
planning,
erp
forever,
but
really
what
I
want
you
to
take
away
from
this
is
exactly
what
jen
was
talking
about.
It's
people,
it's
assets
and
it's
money
and
currently
the
systems
that
we
have
are
decentralized
disconnected
from
each
other
and
very
difficult
to
provide
to
access
and
to
provide
you,
the
information
that
you
so
often
ask
for.
G
So,
if
you
take
nothing
else
away
from
it,
this
is
this
is
what
it's
about
it's
about:
people,
it's
about
assets
and
it's
about
money
and
before
I
turn
it
over
to
noel.
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
minute
to
acknowledge
some
really
key
people
that
have
helped
us
get
to
this
point,
and
you
know
I
want
you
all
to
know
that
eventually
this
software
and
the
implementation
of
it
will
touch
every
single
employee,
so
we're
over
three
thousand
strong,
and
this
is
this-
is
huge.
G
This
is
one
of
the
biggest
software
implementations.
Any
organizations
can
undertake,
and
so
I
wanted
to
take
a
minute
and
just
think
a
few
people
that
have
gotten
us
to
this
point,
but
believe
me,
everybody's
gonna,
touch
it
at
some
point.
So
in
our
data
area,
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
quint
barron
karina
curtis,
keith
clements
and
richard
rutledge
in
our
business
process
area.
G
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
keith
clems,
again
and
brian
ledbetter
under
change
management,
which,
by
the
way,
we've
invested
a
tremendous
amount
of
time
investing
in
our
people
so
that
they
can
be
prepared
to
undertake
this
huge
change.
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
suzanne
swanson,
arturo,
garcia
and
kristin
elder
and
in
our
chart
of
accounts,
work.
G
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
theresa
beckstrand
and
richard
rutledge,
these
folks,
in
addition
to
our
enterprise
team
and
our
innovations,
team,
are
really
leading
the
charge
on
making
us
successful
in
this
endeavor,
and
so
with
that.
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
them,
but
also
turn
the
time
over
to
noel,
to
kind
of
give
you
an
update
on
where
we
are
in
the
process.
B
And
noel
before
you
begin,
are
we
nicknaming
this
system
pam.
G
Q
Okay,
well
we'll
get
started
and
taylor.
Are
you
our
driver
of
the
presentation.
Q
Okay,
thanks,
if
you
could
go,
I'm
I'm
gonna
jump
around.
If
you
could
go
to
slide
five,
because
I
think
it's
helpful,
I
I
just
want
to
kind
of
remind
everyone
what
an
erp
is
and,
and
simply
it's
just
a
consolidated
system
that
manages
our
employees,
the
people,
the
payroll,
the
hr,
our
assets,
which
is
all
of
the
things
we
own.
Q
Q
You
can
see
this
is
sort
of
the
future
state
of
where
we
want
to
go,
and
we
developed
this
illustration.
Before
we
had
selected
workday,
we
had
a
vision
in
mind
of
what
we
wanted
to
achieve.
Q
If
you
could
go
back
to
slide
two
now,
that
would
be
fine,
so
why
workday
so
workday
is
what
we
selected
through
our
selection
process
and
we've
done
that,
because
they
are
a
global
leader
in
this
in
this
marketplace.
It's
a
cloud-based
solution,
so
it's
not
resting
on
servers
in
our
closets,
it's
up
in
the
cloud,
it's
software
as
a
service
and
so
the
development,
the
management,
the
maintenance
of
it
is
done
by
workday.
Q
Recently
we
we
implemented
cartograph,
which
is
a
software
as
a
service
type
program
as
well,
and
with
these
types
of
services,
the
the
software
itself
drives
much
of
the
structure
of
how
those
are
managed,
and
so,
while
traditionally,
when
we
built
or
developed
or
implemented
a
piece
of
software,
we
would
design
it
to
fit
how
we
did
it
with
a
software
as
a
service
type
model,
we
need
to
start
doing
process
realignment
right.
We
start
working
our
way
to
best
practices.
Q
Another
real
key
objective
for
us
was
that
uniform
consistency
and
workday
does
that
through
what
they
call
their
fdm
the
foundation
data
model
and
you'll
hear
more
about
that,
and
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
with
the
work
that
we're
doing
with
gfoa
and
how
that
comes
together
and
how
that
hits
on
the
pieces
that
that
jen
discussed
to
support
us
is
a
group
called
avap
and
they're
an
implementation
leader
that
focuses
on
workday
and
they
focus
on
government
implementations.
Q
They
will
also
help
us
with
the
training
and
the
knowledge
transfer
that
we
need
in
order
to
continue
and
maintain
this
project
moving
forward,
because
really
what
those
implementations
do
is
they
just
set
that
foundation?
Q
We've
been
working
on
it
for
a
while,
and
what
we've
really
focused
on
is
is
organizational
readiness
getting
the
city
ready
for
this
change,
and
and
so
we
started
with
change
management.
A
group
of
us
went
through
and
became
certified
change
managers,
and
we
really
built
a
foundation
around
our
project
plan
around
change
management,
supporting
how
we
communicate
what
it
is
we're
trying
to
do.
Q
We
built
a
strong
sponsor
coalition
with
lisa
and
aaron
and
jen
and
deb
and
marybeth,
so
that
we
were
really
to
staying
focused
not
only
on
the
on
the
business
objectives,
but
also
effectively
communicating
with
them
so
that
they
can
support
the
project
in
the
way
that
the
project
needs
to
be
supported
in
line
with
our
selection
process.
We
also
led
an
effort
on
business
process
documentation,
so
we
came
into
this
having
our
finance
processes
documented.
Q
We
wanted
to
do
that
because
we
didn't
want
to
have
those
first
conversations
with
the
vendor
being
the
first
time
we
sat
down
and
thought
about
it
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
in
a
second
about
the
work,
we're
doing,
gfoa
and
and
sort
of
a
moment
of
reflection
that
we're
doing
in
front
of
these
configurations
as
well,
and
then
we
did
some
data
readiness.
You
know
lisa
said
thanks
to
some
folks
that
did
a
lot
of
hard
work
over
the
years
over
this
last
year.
Q
Getting
our
data
ready
for
a
new
system
identifying
all
the
different
data
sets.
We've
got
a
little
data
warehouse
where
we
can
publish
that
information.
We
can
work
on
cleaning
up
that
information
and
we
can
get
that
information
ready
for
the
new
system
and
in
large
part,
because
of
that
work
we
should
have
what's
called
a
foundational
tenant
with
workday
by
the
end
of
this
week,
and
so
we'll
have
a
workday
environment
that
houses
our
hr
and
our
payroll
information.
Q
And
so,
as
we
go
into
these
architecture
sessions
in
the
next
month
and
a
half
or
so,
we
will
be
able
to
work
through
those
various
processes
that
we've
documented
and
look
at
the
system,
using
our
information
to
see
how
best
to
configure
that
and
and
what
that
experience
is
going
to
be
like.
And
so
I
think
that
that
will
really
help
us
it.
It
will
feel
less
like
we're
just
writing
boxes
on
a
piece
of
paper
which
is
kind
of
where
we
start
sometimes
gfoa
government
finance
officers
association.
Q
We
created
a
third
relationship
as
a
part
of
this
project
and
one
of
the
real
reasons
for
that
was
we
needed.
We
needed
some
some
support
on
on
best
practices
and
helping
us
get
our
our
ducks
lined
up.
Q
Let's
just
say
it
that
way:
the
chart
of
accounts
is
one
part
that
we
are
working
with
the
gfoa
on
and
for
those
I'll,
just
not
assume
that
you
know
what
the
chart
of
accounts
is,
but
the
chart
of
accounts
is
sort
of
the
financial
structure
of
our
accounting,
how
we,
how
we
separate
the
money
into
projects
from
programs
and
cost
centers
and
object
codes
and
revenue,
funds
and
accounts,
and
all
of
that
stuff
in
1993,
when
we
implemented
the
system
that
we
have
now,
we
didn't
go
through
a
process
of
restructuring
our
chart
of
accounts,
so
the
chart
of
accounts
we
use
today
is
generations
old,
and
we
knew
that
in
order
to
really
achieve
what
we
want
to
achieve.
Q
With
this
project,
we
needed
to
revisit
that
we
needed
to
modernize
our
chart
of
accounts,
so
the
gfoa
is
working
with
us
and
we've
met
with,
I
would
say,
almost
every
finance
manager
and
cabinet
member.
If
we
haven't
met
with
you
yet
we
will
be
meeting
with
them
soon
to
go
through
this
chart
of
accounts
to
start
restructuring.
Q
How
we,
how
we
structure
that
and
this
chart
of
accounts,
plays
a
really
important
role
in
workday,
because
it
becomes
the
foundation
data
model.
It
becomes
sort
of
that
resting
platform
for
which
we
start
drawing
all
of
those
pieces
of
data
in
which
we
want
to
start
reporting.
So
this
exercise
is
really
important.
Q
It
allows
us
to
introduce
you
know
I
I
was
listening
to
to
some
of
the
stuff
around
our
infrastructure
development,
and
so
it
allows
us
to
do
program-based,
accounting
right.
It's
it's
a
theme
of
work
that
we
want
to
do
ongoing
and
we
can
start
attaching
all
of
those
various
efforts
that
associate
to
that
program
within
the
system.
So
we
can
start
getting
good,
true
costs
and
it
allows
us
to
do
improved
project
based
accounting,
things
that
come
to
an
end.
We
build
it.
Q
We
complete
the
task
all
of
the
efforts
that
associate
with
that,
including
you
know
the
the
invoices
and
accounts
and
payable
things
like
that.
So
that's
really
important
with
gfoa
we're
working
on
some
process
review.
Q
We've
we're
developing,
what's
called
a
pit
team,
a
processing,
improvement
teams-
and
these
are
those
moments
of
reflection
right.
It's
just
that
guided
conversation
between
the
business
process
work.
We
did
having
a
third
party
that
knows.
Q
Government
finance
government
business
well
help
us
through
some
of
those
conversations
to
just
help
us
get
to
a
little
bit
better
state
so
that,
as
we
go
into
these
configuration
sessions,
we
are
doing
better
right.
We
get
it
closer
to
right
the
first
time.
We
can
always
come
back
and
make
changes,
but
we
get
closer
to
right
the
first
time
and
that's
going
to
be
really
important.
Q
Q
In
the
last
budget,
we
asked
for
a
position
called
an
etsm
enterprise
technology
solution
manager
and
a
big
part
of
why
we
asked,
for
that
is
because
not
only
do
we
want
to
implement
this
project,
but
we
need
to
plan
for
the
future
right
and
really
structure
ourselves,
so
that
we're
successful
in
that
and
and
we're
happy
to
announce
that
scott
black
accepted
that
position
last
week
and
so
we're
in
that
process.
Q
He
is
moving
into
that
position
and
we're
establishing
this
future
administration
team
as
we
go
forward
with
this
implementation,
and
so
the
idea
there
is
that
when
we
get
done
with
this,
we
will
have
a
good
knowledge
transfer
to
our
staff
so
that
we
can
really
administrate
this
project.
Well,.
Q
Our
sponsors
I
want
to
bring
back
to
the
sponsors
right
and
and
the
value
of
a
big
project
like
this
is
having
sponsors.
They
become
super
important
right.
Q
Lisa,
dev,
alexander
mary,
beth,
jen
and
aaron
become
very
important
to
this
project
and
it's
very
important
that
we
keep
them
in
loop
on
this
project
as
we
go
forward,
because
that
really
helps
our
success
on
something
that
takes
so
much
energy
and
so
much
financial
and
resource
commitment.
So
we
also
developed
a
formal
project
charter
and
I
think
you've
seen
that
attached.
Q
You
can
look
through
that
and
to
see
how
we've
we've
structured,
not
only
our
team
but
the
roles
and
the
responsibilities
we've
structured,
how
we're
going
to
be
making
decisions
when
conflict
arises,
how
we're
going
to
be
making
decisions
when
we
just
don't
really
know
which
way
to
go.
We've
set
a
roadmap
for
supporting
those
decisions
so
that
we
can
effectively
move
these
things
forward
and
we
will
be
working.
You
know
the
the
innovation
team.
Q
We
will
be
working
not
only
to
support
the
the
implementation,
but
we're
also
trying
to
work
forward
we're
trying
to
stay
a
couple
months
in
front
of
that
to
help
clear
away
any
roadblocks
that
may
happen
relating
to
a
policy
or
a
procedure,
some
timing
of
some
event
so
that
we
can
really
start
to
take
that
and
and
keep
the
implementation
moving
forward.
And
on
time
can
we
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please.
Q
It's
we've
got
a
lot
going
on
and
it's
being
done
in
a
way
that
is,
I
would
describe
as
expedited
our
goal
for
human
capital
management,
hr
payroll
and
some
of
the
analytics
that
we
want
to
do
is
next
july,
our
payroll
team,
as
we're
going
and
trying
to
adopt
a
budget
in
parallel,
we
will
also
be
trying
to
shift
our
employees
over
to
punching
in
to
a
new
system.
Q
We
will
be
trying
to
test
and
capture
all
of
that
pieces
of
information,
and
so
that's
why
this
team
is
so
important
to
really
help
communicate
that,
but
it's
going
to
be
a
really
stressful
may
and
june
for
us
next
year
in
parallel
to
all
the
other
things
that
we're
doing
so,
please
be
patient
with
us.
On
that
february,
we
get
started
on
the
finance,
which
is
phase
two.
Q
We
will
be
doing
what
we
have
been
doing
for
the
last
little
while
which
will
be
the
planning
and
organizing
and
getting
the
structure
together
to
be
successful.
As
we
go
into
these
architecture
phases
our
objective,
there
will
be
january
or
christmas,
20,
22,
20
january
1,
2023
moving
forward
with
the
the
new
financial
system.
So
it's
a
pretty
aggressive
schedule
and
then
I
just
kind
of
to
wrap
up
tomorrow
we're
having
our
kickoff
meeting
at
one
o'clock.
Q
N
N
This
is
a
lot
nol
and
lisa,
and
everybody
else,
oh
my
goodness,
but
just
to
to
to
kind
of
bring
it
down
to
my
understanding
in
simple
words
like
how
is
this
going
to
change
like?
How
are
we
going
to
see
a
change
with
all
of
this
and
it's
obviously
streamlining
things
and
modernizing
our
processes?
So
what
can
I
expect
as
a
council
member
of
this
project.
Q
Well,
your
interactions
with
hr
will
be
completely
different
right.
How
you
punch
in
well,
you
don't
punch
in
or
punch
out,
but
your
time
cards
and
how
we
manage
those
how
you
access
your
employee
profile.
So
every
city
employee
will
see
that,
like
the
anything
that
you
you
relate
to,
that
are
our
the
view
of
our
hr
world
will
dramatically
change
and
that's
in
the
first
phase
right
we're
focused
on
hr
and
we're
focused
on
payroll.
So
those
initial
those
initial
phases
will
really
about
any
association.
Q
Really
that
you
have
with
hr
will
largely
be
managed
to
this
new
new
system.
You
will
have
improved
access
through
data
through
mobile
devices.
Things
of
that
nature.
C
C
C
I
was
just
going
to
chime
in
because
I
think
that
the
council
has
a
very
different
view
of
our
systems
than
our
employees
and,
from
my
perspective
I
think-
and
I
I
could
be
wrong,
but
I
think
that
the
council
will
notice
most
of
the
differences
in
terms
of
how
the
administration
or
council
staff
are
able
to
answer
your
questions
about
how
much
money
do
we
spend
on
north
temple?
How
much
money
do
we
spend
maintaining
this
park
versus
that
park?
C
If
we
wanted
to
give
a
raise
to
these
kinds
of
employees,
but
not
those
kinds
of
employees,
how
would
we
do
that
or
how
much
would
that
cost
right,
like
a
lot
of
those,
are
questions
that
we
can't
quite
answer
right
now,
because
of
the
way
we
collect
data,
but
once
we
have
the
system-
and
I
think
that
it
was
helpful
for
noel
to
show
that
timeline,
because
I'm
just
going
to
say
right
now
to
set
the
expectation
that
we
will
not
be
able
to
answer
that
for
this
coming
budget.
C
So
it's
gonna
be
next
year,
but
I
have
it's
that
sort
of
like
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel
right
where,
like
that's,
what
I
see
as
in
terms
of
what
you
guys
will
see
differently
from
the
way
we
live
now
versus
the
way
we'll
live
after
all
of
this
work
is
done
from.
G
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
say
it's
really
awkward,
that
null
just
kind
of
spilled
the
beans
that
one
of
the
best
practices
is
that
council
members
now
have
to
punch
in.
So
that's
going
to
be.
I
G
I'm
just
kidding
no
you're
not
supposed
to
spill
those
beans.
No,
I
I
wanted
to
bring
it
down
to
kind
of
a
real
life
example
that
has
been
very
recently
in
front
of
you
all,
which
was
the
matrix
audit
that
was
done
on
the
police
department
budget,
and
you
know
one
of
the.
G
Our
chart
of
accounts
do
not
allow
for
that
type
of
accounting
currently
in
our
system,
and
so
this
is
that's
a
real
live
example
of
when
you
want
to
know
how
much
does
a
thing
cost
a
program
cost
or
a
project
cost.
Currently
our
system
doesn't
have
any
way
of
connecting
those
dots
for
you.
G
Is
that
not
only
will
you
have
access
to
that
information,
but
we
are
going
to
be
far
more
transparent
to
the
community
and
the
citizens
about
how
we
do
what
we
do
so
this
is
a
this
is
a
really
really
cool
benefit
of
of
all
of
this
hard
work
and
and
look
for
that
time.
Clock
in
the
council
office
soon.
I
F
C
C
Yeah-
and
I
think
that
I
think
that,
knowing
that
those
are
the
kinds
of
questions
that
you
want
to
be
able
to
answer
is
what
helps
what
the
work
that
gfoa
is
doing
with
us.
It's
sort
of
like
in
order
to
set
up
collecting
the
data.
C
I
paid
200
for
this
traffic
cone,
but
it's
I
spent
40
hours
which
equals
how
much
in
terms
of
the
salary
of
that
employee
and
I
think,
a
lot
of
our
questions
about
homelessness
and
policing
and
outreach
and
stuff
like
that,
really
relate
to
that
as
well.
And
so
that's
what's
been
so
great.
Having
noel
pulling
together
this
sort
of
interdisciplinary
team
to
kind
of
lay
out.
All
of
those
questions
right,
so
it's
not
just
that
I've
had
these
questions
in
my
mind
for
10
years.
C
I
would
love
it
to
be
able
to
answer
this
question
for
the
council.
Different
departments
also
have
been
collecting
all
of
their.
You
know,
if
only
I
could
answer
or
if
only
I
could
look
at
my
budget
this
way,
I
would
do
my
job
better
or
I
could
do
my
job
more
efficiently.
Things
like
that,
so
every
department
has
examples
of
those.
It's
been
fascinating.
N
That's
that's
great,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
I
mean
the
the
police
department
already
does
a
good
job
like
collecting.
How
many
calls
you
know
they
they
get
at
a
park
for
service
or
around
an
hrc
for
service,
and
that's
something
that
I
would
you
know,
love
to
keep
working
on
and
really
collecting
and
understanding
where
our
services
are
going,
so
that
we
can
improve
where
we
need
to
improve
right
and
we
can
allocate
where
we
need
to
allocate
and
yeah
the
traffic.
N
Q
The
report's
going
to
gather
the
information
from
all
of
those
areas
right,
it's
no
longer
siloed
information.
So
that's
why
that
new
chart
of
account
structure
becomes
so
so
important.
You
think
of
a
program
traffic
calming
a
project
we
put
in
some
speed
bumps
and
then
maybe
some
effort
around
an
element
of
traffic
calming
could
be
a
tag.
Q
I
mean
someone
right
now
in
the
background
is
just
like
going
no,
no
you're
getting
too
ahead
of
yourself,
but
but
that's
kind
of
the
formation
of
how
that
works
right
and
you
can
see
how
those
elements
can
start
fitting
into
other
areas.
And
we
start
we.
We
don't
have
that
same
siloed
information,
because
we
have
this
uniform
database.
G
Yeah
no
thank
you.
I
also
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
hope
that
you
all
picked
up
on
the
fact
that
the
chart
of
accounts
that
we're
working
from
currently
in
our
system
is
generations
old.
We
did
not
do
this
work
in
1993
and
think
about
what
you
were
doing
in
1993.
G
That's
how
old
our
current
system
is,
and
our
chart
of
accounts
is
older
than
that.
So
what
what
we're
doing
here
is
just
transformational.
This
is
really
going
to
bring
us
into
the
the
21st
century
and
really
provide
us
with
the
information
that
we
all
want
so
desperately
mayor,
bye,.
D
Madam
chair,
may
I
yes,
of
course
I
I
think,
as
city
nerds
we're
all
kind
of
like
maybe
geeking
out
over
what
this
is
and
how
tremendous
it
is,
and
I
want
to
just
give
my
thanks
to
jennifer
bruno
and
noel
and
lisa,
who
collectively
have
decades
of
city
experience
and
that
without
this
kind,
this
institutional
knowledge
in
our
city
government
in
both
branches,
we
wouldn't
know
how
messed
up
it
is
and
what
the
history
of
frankensteining
systems
is
and
how
it
really
should
be
going
forward.
D
B
L
L
Thank
you,
no
problems.
This
is
a
huge
undertaking,
I
mean
especially
for
a
city
government
and
so
many
projects
out
there,
and
so
many
people
doing
thousands
of
things
it's
more
than
just
a
small
company,
and
I
applaud
you
for
doing
that,
because
it
is
necessary.
L
A
couple
things
that
just
I
know,
you're
working
on
is
the
training
side
of
the
house
and
the
ongoing
training
of
the
system,
and
is
your
and
probably
working
and
hopefully
you're
working
on
some
type
of
audit
system
internal
auditing,
so
that
we
know
that
we're
not
falling
back
excel
does
a
lot
of
great
things
and
people
start
going
back
to
excel
because
that's
what
they
know
so
how
we
make
sure
that
we
actually
audit
that
we're
using
this
erp
system
and
not
falling
back
in
other
areas
and
we're
and
then
we're
not
collecting
the
street
calming
things,
because
we
don't
have
the
right
charge
code
for
it
and
we
start
putting
it
under
miscellaneous.
L
So
I
hopefully
workday
already
understands
us
and
that
we're
we're
we're
focused
on
that
also
because
that
long
term,
that
makes
it
a
success.
Q
Q
Change
management
is
a
fascinating
field
of
study
in
and
we're
finding
where
our
paths
of
resistance
are
and
where
we
need
to
make
an
extra
effort
to
communicate.
Why
it's
so
important
to
have
sponsors
in
the
role
that
they
play
to
effectively
communicate
these
goals
and
objectives?
Yes,
we're
we're
being
very
mindful
of
that.
That's
our
that's
our
end
game.
B
Well,
I
look
forward
to
using
pam
and
just
making
that
nickname
stick
somehow.
So.
Thank
you
so
much
for
all
your
hard
work.
Council
members.
Are
there
any
final
questions
or
comments
for
the
team
seriously?
I
think
this
is
an
amazing
endeavor
and
really
truly
appreciate
all
the
hard
work
that
has
gone
into
this
and
the
dedication
that's
gone
into
this
and
the
creativity
right
that
has
gone
into
this.
B
The
fourth
thought
of
really
bringing
us
to
the
21st
century
yeah-
and
I
don't
know
where
I'm
at
today,
so
I
look
forward
to
it.
I
will
see
you
tomorrow
at
the
launch
and
thank
you
so
much
for
your
work.
Thank
you,
okay
team.
We
are
now
on
agenda
item
number,
eight,
that
is
the
technology
related
land
use
text
amendments
and
at
the
table
we
have
nick
tarbut
and
I
believe
nick
norris
will
be.
Yes,
I
see
nick
norris
over
there,
so
I
will
turn
the
time
over
to
nick
turbot.
G
Alright,
thank
you.
We
go
from
one
great
technology
discussion
to
another.
I
guess
this
proposal
would
amend
various.
K
R
I
should
have
a
presentation
slides
if
people
want
to
load
them
there
we
go,
but
while
this
is
loading
and
nick
touched
on
this
a
little
bit,
but
the
purpose
of
this
proposal
is
to
do
a
couple
of
things.
First
is
to
update
and
implement
some
of
our
master
plans
related
to
economic
development
and.
R
Also
to
implement
one
of
the
the
mayor's
goals
for
2021
of
creating
tech
lake
city-
and
this
is
a
big
part
of
that,
because
it
enables
that
those
uses
and
that
endeavor
to
to
happen,
particularly
along
some
of
our
corridors,
that
we
are
seeing
and
we
hope
to
see
some
revitalization
and
some
change
in
some
vacant
spaces.
R
So
that
part
tries
to
clean
those
up,
and
it's
related
to
this
because
of
some
of
the
uses
that
we're
adding
that
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there
are
some
separation
between
these
uses
and
it
also
updates
the
language
table.
So
it
deletes
those
repetitive
uses
that
I
just
talked
about,
but
also
adds
the
new
uses
to
the
table.
R
R
We
tend
to
use
one
to
use
general
definitions,
as
defined
in
our
code
for
this,
because
they're
intended
to
be
fairly
broad
and
when
we
do
that,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
adding
things
that
uses
that
a
biomedical
facility
is
not,
which
is
what
our
code
directs
us
to
do,
and
so
we've
included
some
of
these
uses
in
the
definition,
so
that
it's
clear
that
if
somebody
were
to
come
in
and
say
no,
I'm
in
medical
office,
I'm
not
a
biomedical
facility
or
vice
versa.
So
it
creates
similar
to
what
I
said.
R
So
this
is,
I
don't
know
how
well
you
can
read
this,
but
basically
these
this,
the
biomedical
facilities
would
be
allowed
in
every
place
on
that
map.
R
That
is
shown
in
blue,
and
so
you
can
see
that
it's
mostly
most
of
that
area
is
our
our
industrial
areas,
which
one
of
the
benefits
of
these
types
of
uses
too,
is
that
it
diversifies
the
types
of
land
uses
that
we're
seeing
occupy
our
light
industrial
area
in
particular,
and
so
that
tends
to
be
a
little
bit,
helps
to
address
some
of
the
the
monotony
that
we're
seeing
as
far
as
logistics
and
things
like
that.
R
So
it
creates
some
some
added
spaces
for
these
uses
and
then
just
for
reference,
not
that
I'm
going
to
go
through
that
big
long
list
of
zoning
districts
where
these
are
permitted.
But
it's
made
it's
meant
to
give
you
an
idea
of
those
zoning
districts
that
are
in
the
ordinance
of
where
these
would
be
permitted.
We
proposed
all
of
these
to
be
permitted,
because
the
impacts
in
almost
every
situation
is
similar
to
other
uses
that
are
already
in
the
zoning
district.
R
There's
one
exception
to
this,
and,
as
we
have
discovered
in
some
of
our
research
and
reviewing
some
of
the
proposals
we've
had,
is
that
sometimes
biomedical
facilities
can
produce
hazardous
or
radioactive
waste,
and
so
in
in
the
interest
of
environmental
justice
and
preserving
our
neighborhoods.
R
The
proposal
that
was
from
the
planning,
division
and
agreed
to
by
the
planning
commission
is
that
if
they
produce
one
of
those
two
things
that
they
are
prohibited
within
half
mile
of
a
residential
use,
it's
important.
That's
not
a
residential
zone,
so
that
would
be
address.
R
Most
of
the
livable
areas
in
the
city
where
residentials
or
residential
uses
are
occurring,
which
are
mostly
on
the
east
side
of
I-215,
with
the
exception
of
a
few
spots
here
and
there
where
there
are
some
residential
uses,
particularly
in
the
agricultural
zones
and
some
spotted
small
residential
uses
out
in
the
industrial
area,
where
we
have
maybe
four
or
five.
R
Moving
on
to
technology
facilities,
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
This
definition
is
also
fairly
broad
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it
was
broad
and
very
intentionally
because,
as
the
word
implies,
technology
is
rapidly
changing
and
so
are
the
uses
that
use
it
and
what
they
do.
And
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
more
future
proof
in
our
code
with
these
types
of
uses,
so
they
can
be
in
more
places,
but
these
are
basically
places
that
use
technology
to
either
produce
deliver,
maintain
data,
information,
equipment,
etc.
R
One
of
the
things
that
we
were
asked
not
to
include
in
this
that
we
did
earlier
was
some
actual
manufacturing
types
of
things,
and
so
we
did
take
that
out
of
this
definition
and
another
definition
so
that
it's
clear
that
these
things
are
when
they
are
in
residential
or
near
residential
areas
and
where
people
live
they're,
not
as
impactful
next
slide.
R
Again
same
as
the
other
map
areas
in
purple
is
where
the
technology
facilities
would
be.
You
can
see.
This
is
a
bigger
list.
The
tables
and
all
of
these
slides
that
you're
going
to
see
are
all
include
the
same
zoning
districts,
and
so
sometimes
there's
a
pen
everywhere.
Sometimes
there's
not,
and
so
you
can
see.
This
is
most
of
the
urban
area
of
the
city
and
the
area
that
is
industrial
in
nature.
R
Data
centers:
this
was
something
you
go
to
the
next
slide.
This
is
something
that
we
added
based
on
a
couple
of
things
is
that
people
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there
was
a
difference
in
these
two
uses.
No
there's
a
typo
in
that
definition,
sorry
ignored
that
number
281.
It's
a
cut
and
paste
thing,
but
also,
as
it
came
out
of
our
subject,
the
high
water
consuming
land
use
proposal.
That's
also
working
its
way
to
the
city
council.
R
We
want
to
make
sure
that
these
are
separated
out
from
being
considered
technology
facilities
because
of
their
potential
to
be
high
water
and
high
energy
use
they're
necessary
in
in
in
some
places.
There's
we
do
have
a
number
of
them.
They
tend
to
be
smaller
than
they
are,
and
it
also
should
be
noted
that
this
does
not
include
a
data
center,
that's
associated
with
some
other
business,
for
example
salt
lake
city.
R
We
have
our
own
data
center
right,
but
this
wouldn't
be
included
in
that,
so
these
would
be
permitted
in
the
m1
m2
and
the
business
park,
zoning
districts
and
that's
primarily
because
these
tend
to
be
large
footprint
types
of
buildings.
With
no
windows
or
doors,
no,
you
know
there's
a
small
handful
of
employees,
and
so
they
should
be
in
those
areas
where
they
don't
detract
from
other
city
goals
related
to
walkability
and
and
making
our
city
a
more
active
place.
R
Medical
related
labs
so
now
we're
starting
to
get.
You
know
the
next
slide
now
we're
starting
to
get
into
some
of
the
uses
that
we
changed.
We
had
five
or
six
different
definitions
that
were
related
to
this,
but
the
key
point
here
is
that
these
are
places
that
people
go
to
get
either
medical
tests
or
take
sample.
You
know
biological
samples
for
medical,
diagnose
purpose
in
the
past.
R
This
definition
has
been
so
broad,
but
it's
also
been
used
for
other
types
of
things:
a
lot
of
research,
but
that's
being
accommodated
through
to
the
change
in
the
other
facilities,
particularly
the
biomedical
use,
and
so
this
really
is
intended
to
be
places
that
are
close
ingrained
in
neighborhoods,
where
people
can
go
just
like
they're
going
to
a
doctor's
office
or
something
like
that,
so
it's
more
convenient
for
them.
Next
slide.
R
And
as
you'll
see
in
this,
the
areas
in
orange,
they're,
more
widespread
you'll
also
see
mixed
in
random
patches
of
orange
in
neighborhoods.
That's
because
this
these
are
also
in
the
institutional
zones.
One
of
the
reasons
why
they're
allowed
in
the
institutional
zones
is
because
that
zone
also
allows
things
like
hospitals,
some
medical
clinics
and
things
like
that,
and
so
this
is
a
very
related
use
to
that,
and
so
that's
why
we
chose
to
in
and
propose
to
include
those
in
the
institutional
zones
and
very
little
impact
from
these
types
of
things.
R
Research
and
development
facilities,
so
these
this
is
a
really
broad
term
and-
and
I
think
I
sent
you
the
wrong
presentation
nick
because
I
saw
I
deleted
all
those
numbers,
but
anyway
that's
what
happened
later,
trying
to
do
many
things,
but
anyway
so-
and
I
also
didn't
change
the
definition
here.
So
I
greatly
apologize
for
that.
But
it
is
in
your
in
your
information,
but
these
are
facilities
that
basically
develop
and
test
products,
sometimes
they're
individual
components
that
go
into
assembling
a
bigger
project
and
sometimes
they're
individual
pieces.
R
We
do
have
a
lot
of
these.
Actually
in
the
city,
for
example,
we
have
one
of
these.
We
have
a
testing
lab,
that's
on
1100
east,
it's
a
non-conforming
use,
so
they're
very
general,
but
they
again
they
act.
They
don't
usually
they
don't
produce,
impacts
and
nuisances.
They're,
almost
exclusively
interior
and
can
fit
in
just
like
most
other
types
of
office
uses
next
slide.
R
And
finally,
again
very
similar
in
where
these
are
going.
In
fact,
the
colors
are
almost
identical
here,
so
it's
very
similar
to
the
previous,
the
medical
labs
facility
and
I
believe,
that's
the
end
of
my
slide.
L
Yeah
thanks
nick
couple,
two
questions,
one
on
the
the
biomed
side:
there's
there's
a
storm
water
runoff
already
is
that
already
captured
in
the
industrial
zone,
because
it
says
a
half
mile
from
residential
is.
My
concern
is
just
storm
water,
runoff
or
water
runoff,
or
fluid
runoff
from
a
biomed.
If
it's
hazardous
is
that
already
tested
at
the
site
for
our
current
land
use.
R
If
it
has
any
of
those
things
that
are
identified
by
the
state
as
hazardous
or
radioactive,
they
have
to
have
a
containment
plan
and
a
way
to
dispose
of,
and
so
it's
not
exposed
and
it
isn't
entering
any
of
our
natural
systems
where
it's
our
air,
whether
it's
our
our
air,
our
ground
or
our
water.
R
One
thing
to
think
about
in
regards
to
those
is
that
most
hospitals
that
have
any
sort
of
cancer-related
treatment
program
is
producing
radioactive
waste
very
similar
to
these
uses,
and
so
they
go
through
a
very
extensive
protocol
for
and
monitoring
for,
compliance
of
how
to
how
to
store,
handle
and
dispose
and
transport
that,
and
so,
as
we
had
our
sustainability
department
review.
These,
I
think
we're
all
comfortable
with
the
state
regulations
and
how
that's
handled,
because
we
have
experience
with
how
they're
handled
in
hospitals
and
clinics
and
things
like
that.
L
R
So
that,
obviously
that's
a
different
petition
that
you
guys
are
going
to
see
it's
changed
a
little
bit,
but
it's
basically
it's
it's
for
you,
it's
per
use.
So
if
one
parcel
has
one
use
on
it,
that
one
use
cannot
exceed
that
amount
and
obviously
it
would
only
apply
to
things
moving
forward.
So
if
there's
already
an
existing
use
that
would
exceed
that
exceeds
that
the
current
zoning
can't
be
applied
retroactively
so
or
that
ordinance
if
adopted,
can't
be
applied
retroactively.
K
Yes
couple
so
I,
like
generally
in
favor
of
all
this
and
and
really
excited
about
it.
So
I
don't
want
you
to
think
my
questions
are
undermining,
but
I
do
wonder
like
what.
Why
do
we
need
these
new
categories
as
opposed
to
what
we're
using
right
now
and
what
do
we,
what
are
most
of
these
institutions
that
we're
trying
to
capture
and
define
better
what
it
what's
the
most
common
zoning
that
they're
using
right
now.
R
We
have
to
try
to
fit
them
into
the
closest
definition
possible,
and
what
ends
up
happening
is
that
one
it
starts
sending
the
message
for
the
particularly
for
these
businesses
that
want
to
locate
somewhere.
If
we
have
to
do
that
and
they
can
look
at
another
nearby
city
and
there's
more
of
a
guarantee,
because
the
zoning
clearly
allows
it
they're
going
to
go
to
that
city.
We've
experienced
that
two.
R
R
We
don't
have
a
use
that
fits
what
some
of
these
things
are
doing,
and
so
it
has
been
challenging
and
complicated
for
uses,
many
of
which
that
start
in
in
research
park,
where
you
know
they're,
not
as
subject
to
our
zoning,
but
then
they
don't
have
anywhere
in
the
city
to
go
once
they
need
more
space
or
they
outgrow
it
or
they
just
need
a
different
facility,
and
so
they
end
up
leaving
the
city
all
together,
and
so
those
are
the
primary
reasons
why
we
are
doing
that.
K
My
second
question
is:
what
are
we
trying
to
capture
with
technology
facilities
because
I
know
it's,
you
said
it's
intentionally
broad,
and
I
understand
that,
but
to
me
and
like
in
this
definition,
what
isn't
a
tech
facility
other
than
a
biomed
facility
and
a
develop
research
and
development
facility
like.
A
R
But
if
you
were,
if
you
were
to
think
of
about
the,
for
example,
the
adobe
facility
down
in
lehigh,
that
was
a
utah,
a
local
made
company
that
adobe
purchased
prior,
that
they
do
all
kinds
of
data
analytics
for
the
internet
out
of
that
facility
and
so
they're,
looking
at
very
all
kinds
of
different
how
people
are
using
data,
what
websites
are
going
to
how
that
traffic
flows
and
they
use
that
for
various
purposes?
Sometimes
it's
to
promote
advertisement.
R
Sometimes
it's
for
other
things,
and
so
it's
those
kinds
of
things
that
there's
they're,
not
just
automated
systems.
There's
somebody
there's
some
human
being
in
a
place
like
that.
That's
looking
at
the
data
and
using
it
to
support
other
types
of
endeavors
whatever
they
may
be,
there's
lots
of
different
facilities
that
do
those
kinds
of
things.
Sometimes
they're
programming,
different
programs
like
a
company
like
domo
or
other
things
that
are
related,
that
support
other
business
practices
that
don't
squarely
fit
into
any
other
land
use
that
we
have.
K
So,
but
is
there
any
my
point
I
guess
is:
is
there
any
danger
in
having
it
this
be
too
broad
like
that
someone
could
take
advantage
of
it
that
we,
where
we
you
know,
is
there
any
danger
of
having
the
definition
be
too
broad.
R
It's
very
challenging
to
try
to
write
something
that
that
is
all
of
the
various
activities
that
may
occur,
but
also
address
some
of
the
other,
potentially
more
harmful
types
of
things,
and
so
I
think
that's
why
sometimes
we
do
have
more
specific
definitions
in
our
land
use
code
and
why
we
exclude
certain
uses
from
being
considered
for
this
generally,
if
we
have
a
more
specific
defined
use.
That
applies.
R
K
Okay,
well,
that's
the
that's
the
only
definition
that
makes
me
nervous
that
makes
me
think.
Maybe
we
could
make
it
just
a
little
bit
tighter,
but
other
than
that.
I
I
think
all
these
other
ones
are
really
needed
and-
and
I
can
you
know,
think
of
examples
right
off
the
top
of
my
head
of
wanting
to
to
have
them
in
our
city
so,
but
that
one
does
make
me
a
little
nervous
about
that
possible.
B
B
We
are
on
item
number
nine
budget,
amendment
number
three
for
fiscal
year,
2021
2022.
We
have,
I
believe,
our
chief
financial
officer,
mary
beth
thompson
at
the
table
and
our
city
budget
director
john
bike.
So
if
mary
beth
is
here
or
john
either
one
I'll,
let
you
guys
take
over.
K
S
B
S
You
take
over
so
this
budget
amendment
is.
I
G
I
A
reallocation
of
funding
that
you
approved
in
the
fiscal
year,
2021
budget.
So
it's
just
a
reallocation.
It's
a
large
sum
of
money.
It's
2
million
dollars
for
switchpoint,
but
because
there
was
not
a
contract
completed,
we
felt
like
bringing
it
back
to
the
council
for
transparency
purposes.
As
a
housekeeping
item
was
the
most
appropriate
action.
B
E
On
that
last
item,
I
think
we
were
hoping
for
a
straw
poll
to
allow
mary
beth
and
the
team
sort
of
a
visible
confirmation
from
the
council
that
they're,
okay
with
their
reallocation,
switchpoint,
has
been
waiting
for
several
months
for
the
allocation
and
it's
sort
of
pivotal
for
them
to
open
up.
Is
that
possible?
I
guess
at
this
point
for
the
council.
B
F
N
E
E
They've
moved
forward
this
year
in
fundraising
other
funds,
in
addition
to
the
city
funds
that
you
all
agreed
to
earlier
this
year
to
complete
the
purchase
and
renovation.
So
they
could
reopen
this
month.
In
fact,
they've
been
moving
forward
on
that
throughout
the
summer
time
they
do
plan
to
reopen
shortly
after
renovating
and
they'll
have
a
100
rooms
and
134
beds,
they're
planning
on
retaining
it
as
a
low
income
hotel.
E
E
There
and
it'll
be
a
nice
kind
of
setup
where
it
won't
be
studio
apartments
necessarily
because
they
don't
have
kitchenettes
in
them.
They
will
have
food
available
on
site
and
also
other
options
for
residents
there
to
go
and
purchase
or
make
sort
of
options
and
switch.
Point
has
a
big
plan
where
they've
also
got
a
social
enterprise
piece
there
about
a
bakery.
Well,
they'll
be
doing
some
work
for
the
community
and
bringing
in
revenue
for
for
the
residents
in
that
facility
through.
That
means.
N
So
it's
so
it's
a
hotel,
but
it's
going
to
be
used
by
a
certain
group
like
exclusively
and
it's
and
it's
not
it's
not
a
shelter
per
se
or
a
resource
center.
E
No
council
member,
it's
it's
a
hotel,
it's
in
the
airport
overlay
zone,
and
so
they
didn't
pursue
a
rezone
because
it
wouldn't
work
for
residential
based
on
that
and
they
felt
switch
point
felt
that
there's
enough
people
who
had
limited
income
who
could
essentially
use
it
like
a
lot
of
hotels,
are
being
used
for
now
anyway,
where
a
lot
of
motels,
particularly
smaller
ones,
are
used
by
low-income
individuals
who
have
limited
income
just
essentially
to
pay
month
to
month
or
week
to
week
and
live
there
longer
term.
E
E
E
Because
of
that,
as
well
generally
with
low
income
housing,
you
have
vouchers
attached
to
those
that
subsidize
the
rent.
As
this
is
not
formally
for
market
housing,
they
don't
really
have
subsidies.
E
That's
why
switchpoint
is
doing
some
creative
things
with
a
small
amount
for
people
paying
as
a
hotel
would
plus
a
social
enterprise
piece
where
they'll
have,
let's
say
a
bakery
where
they
could
employ
folks
generate
income
out
of
there's
a
restaurant
in
that
facility
generate
income,
those
kind
of
things
to
subsidize
the
whole
facility.
N
So
so,
who
so?
Who
qualifies
for
this?
Is
this
group
within
the
system
of
our
shop
or
the
homeless
or
out
of
the
our
research
centers?
Some
of
those
people
at
the
resource
centers
are
moving
there
or
this
is
just
a
walk-in
thing.
So,
if
I
find
myself
in
a
shelter
situation,
I
can
just
go
to
switch
point
and
and
get
help.
How
does
that
all
work.
E
Generally,
these
folks
are
going
to
have
some
income,
so
they
could
currently
be
in
the
resource,
centers
or
unsheltered
on
the
street.
A
lot
of
folks
tend
to
get
checks
at
the
beginning
of
the
month,
fixed
income,
stuff
and
a
lot
of
them
say
veterans,
those
who
are
over
the
age
of
50
or
55,
and
have
regular
income
that
way,
it's
just
not
enough
to
afford
the
current
rental
market.
E
This
would
be
long
term
for
those
folks,
they
would
plan
on
being
there
long
term,
but
because
it's
a
hotel,
you
don't
have
a
year
lease
or
those
kind
of
things.
So
it's
sort
of
that
middle
piece
of
it's,
not
just
a
drop-in
hotel.
It's
not
sort
of
long-term
housing,
it's
in
that
middle
piece,
but
they
do
plan
on
having
it
for
be
very
stable
for
folks
who
are
living
there
longer
term.
E
N
Do
they
have
if
you
know
things
got,
you
know
if
if
they
experience
what
what
other
agencies
experience
in
the
city
and
the
neighborhood,
do
they
have
a
mitigation
plan
like
what
we
require
right
now
for
the
shelters
for
sorry
for
the
resource,
centers
or
or
not,.
E
E
N
All
right,
but
they
are
under
an
overlay
zone.
So
basically
you
know
there's
noise
and
a
lot
of
things
that
they
will
experience
because
they're
so
close
to
the
airport.
E
Yeah,
I
think
someone
else
can
probably
speak
better
to
the
overlay
zone,
but
essentially
within
that
zone
with
the
airport.
There
are
factors
that
would
cause
residential
housing
to
have
some
barriers
like
you're
talking
about,
which
is
part
of
the
reason
why
it
didn't
make
sense
to
go
through
a
long
process.
Try
and
change
that
whole
thing
versus
find
a
way
to
fit
a
need
into
an
existing
facility
that
wasn't
being
used.
B
B
We
are
now
at
5
30,
and
our
next
agenda
item
is
for
550,
which
is
board
appointments
and
I'm
not
sure
that
our
board
appointees,
I
mean
nominees-
applicants,
that's
the
word
I
was
looking
for
are
here
yet,
if
they
are,
we
can
go
forward.
If
not,
we
will
take
a
break.
H
B
Okay,
well,
if
michael
is
here
he's
our
first
one
up
to
back
michael
abramson
is
has
been,
is
being
considered
for
his
appointment
to
the
historic
landmark
commission.
So,
michael,
if
you
are
here
and
want
to
join
us,
I
see
the
little
triangle
of
technological
death
on
his
on
his
title.
So,
if
you're
having
problems,
let
me
know.
B
Q
Okay,
give
me
one
second,
I
just
need
to
change
my
camera
setting
here.
P
R
I
Q
The
school
back
in
fall
2018
as
kind
of
a
do-it-all.
Q
Moved
here
in
2018
from
michigan.
I
Where
I
did
my
my
phd
in
architectural
history
and
I've
always
had
an
interest
in
the
you
know,
the
built
environment
in
general.
I
was
trained
as
an
architect
like
a
member
of
the
council
as.
Q
I'm
aware
and
yeah
I
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
to
think
carefully
about.
I
The
level
and
scale
of
development
that's
occurring
in
our
city,
and
I
feel
the
historic
landmark
mission
is
a
good
opportunity
for
me
to
share
some
of
my
expertise
and
and
be
able
to
help
everyone
do
that
to
think
carefully
about
it.
I
F
Michael
and
I
actually
taught
a
course
together,
so
I
know
him
to
be
very
qualified
for
this
role
and
I
think
that
you'll
bring
some
interesting
perspectives.
This
historic,
landmark
commission.
B
Well,
michael,
you
will
be
on
our
consent
agenda
this
evening
in
our
formal
meeting
and
you
do
not
have
to
log
on
and
be
present,
but
you
are
obviously
more
than
welcome
to
and
to
join
our
formal
council
meeting,
but
that's
where
we
will
be
and
thank
you
so
much
for
deciding
to
serve
on
this
commission
and
be
serve
the
city.
So
thank
you
so
much.
S
B
It's
my
my
spanish
influence,
andra
gent,
thank
you
for
joining
us
and
andre
is
or
andra
is
looking
to
be
on
our
planning,
commission,
so
andrew.
Why
don't
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
yourself
and
why
you're
interested
in
this
commission.
S
Sure
so
I
teach
real
estate
finance
and
a
course
called
innovations
in
housing,
affordability
at
the
university
of
utah,
I'm
brand
new
to
utah.
I
came
here
in
june,
I'm
also
academic
director
of
our
real
estate
center.
So
this
is
a
new
new
position.
I
think
local
policies
influence
one's
life,
an
awful
lot.
I
think
there's
often
a
need
for
more
expertise
at
the
local
level.
S
National
politics
get
a
ton
of
attention,
but
there's
very
little.
You
can
do
to
affect
them.
Sadly
enough,
but
there's
a
lot
of
things
we
could
do
to
affect
local
outcomes,
and
I
guess
I
have
a
strong
interest
in
making
sure
that
we
have
nice
places
to
live
in
terms
of
walkability.
S
Ability
and
hopefully
less
air
pollution
going
forward,
hopefully
a
mix
of
people
of
different
incomes
that
we
maintain
that
we
we
try
to
at
least
mitigate
kind
of
headwinds
and
affordability
in
salt
lake.
But
those
are
those
are
my
main
reasons
to
join.
S
Of
cities,
I
hope
that
salt
lake
is
the
last
one,
but
I
have
lived
an
awful
lot
of
cities,
so
I
think
the
advantage
of
this
much
like
I
could
talk
about.
So
you
know
we.
I
have
this
new
role
and
part
of
it
is
a
bit
of
a
startup
for
a
real
estate
center.
So
the
advantage
of
having
many
jobs
is
having
been
able
to
see
how
different
real
estate
centers
work.
S
That's
what
I
tell
people,
so
I
think
the
same
thing
in
salt
lake
is
like
I've
sort
of
seen
a
lot
of
different
ways
that
cities
are
run
and
a
lot
of
different
ways
that
cities
kind
of
policies,
the
city
trust
cities
tried.
Of
course,
I
do
study
these
in
my
academic
research
as
well
sort
of
the
effects
of
local
policies
and
sort
of
how
income
dynamics
their
kind
of
broader
trends
at
the
national
level
play
out
at
the
local
level.
B
S
Chapel
hill,
north
carolina,
and
actually
I
had
a
very
good
job
at
unc,
chapel
hill.
It
wasn't
the
most
dynamic
of
towns.
I
don't
think
anybody
was.
It
was
poorly
attention.
They,
their
transportation
infrastructure,
was
a
little
harder
to
deal
with
in
terms
of
adding
kind
of
sidewalks
and
bike
lanes
in
part
because
they
have
just
you
know
when
it
was
built,
they're,
very
narrow,
roads
and
so
there's
a
very
real
trade-off
between
congestion
and
increasing
other
forms
of
transit.
S
But
I
mean
it
wasn't
a
bad
place
to
live,
but
but
salt
lake
was
a
very
attractive
place.
When
I
came
and
visited
it,
I
I
really
like
walkable
places
and
it's
definitely
a
walkable
place.
B
Awesome
that's
great
to
hear,
and
I'm
also
interested
in
learning
more
about
your
course
on
innovations
of
affordable
housing
so
we'll,
let's
grab
coffee
sometime,
maybe
but.
S
To
be
clear,
it's
actually
called
innovations
and
housing,
affordability
and
it's
a
subtle
distinction
between
affordable
housing
and
housing.
Affordability.
I
think
affordable
housing
people
tend
to
think,
and
especially
people
in
the
real
estate
industry.
They
immediately
go
to
I'm
designing
housing
for
60
of
ami,
so
area,
immediate
income
or
I'm
designing
housing
for
80
and
usually
they're.
Looking
for
some
government
supplement
to
basically
provide
some
financing
for
that
and
then
there's
restrictions
on
who
can
live
in
the
buildings.
So
that's
kind
of
what
the
word
affordable.
S
Housing,
affordability,
more
generally
in
terms
of
reducing
rents
broadly,
and
we
talk
there's
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
effects.
You
know
if
you
build
a
new
house,
a
new
housing
development
that
you
know,
let's
say
they
target
people
who
make
100
of
ami
are
120
of
ami.
It
turns
out
that
is
also
has
more,
has
positive
effects
in
terms
of
decreasing
rents
for
nearby
buildings
as
well,
and
so
it's
kind
of
there.
This
is
what
we
call
filtering
is
basically
that,
hopefully
we
build
new
housing,
it
doesn't
it.
S
The
direct
occupants
are
going
to
be
kind
of
higher
income,
typically
for
new
market
rate
construction,
but
it
filters
down
through
basically
decreasing
the
pressure
on
the
existing
stock
to
allow
some
you
know
vacant,
it
frees
up
units
for
lower
income,
households,
that's
a
very
long
answer:
the
difference
between
housing,
affordability
and
affordable
housing,
and
we
do
talk
about
affordable
housing
programs.
In
my
my
class,
we
talk
about
the
housing
choice,
voucher
program.
We
talk
about
public
housing,
we
talk
about
litec,
we
talk
about
inclusionary
zoning,
but
we're
more.
B
Well,
we
are
lucky
to
have
you,
council
members,
any
questions
or
comments
for
andra.
Well,
as
you
heard
me
tell
michael
we
you
will
be,
you
will
be
on
our
consent
agenda
at
our
formal
meeting.
You
certainly
do
not
have
to
log
on,
but
we
look
forward
to
having
you
on
the
planning
commission
and
thank
you
for
your
desire
to
serve
the
city.
Thank
you.
I'm.
B
Cheers
cheers
our
next.
Our
next
applicant
is
amy
burroughs.
Also
for
the
planning
commission.
I
did
see
her
tile,
so
hopefully
amy's
with
us.
I
I'm
sure
I'm
a
I'm
a
straight-up
utahn
I've
always
been
one.
I've
lived
in
salt
lake
city
for
since
college,
I'm
currently
the
chair
of
our
of
the
community
council
of
my
neighborhood,
and
I
think
the
like
the
adu
discussions
and
the
planned
community
discussions
have
been
kind
of
the
most
interesting
ones
to
me.
So
that's
planning
commission
is
where
those
decisions
are
ultimately
made.
So
I
thought
that
might
be
a
good
match.
I
I
my
degree
is
in,
I
have
a
degree
in
geology
and
an
mba,
and
I
currently
am
a
substitute
teacher
for
the
salt
lake
city,
school
district.
I
So
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
I
know
I'm
not
going
to
fill
the.
I
know
that
at
least
a
couple
of
people
on
the
planning
commission
need
to
be
architects
and
professionals
in
the
industry
which
I'm
not,
but
I
think
I
have
a
lot
to
learn
and
I'm
willing
to
do
it
so.
B
I
love
it,
that's
wonderful!
We
need
all
the
perspectives
on
our
commissions
and
boards
possible
so
that
we
can
be
inclusive
to
all
of
all
of
our
ideas
and
the
needs
and
and
desires
of
the
city.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
wanting
to
be
a
part
of
the
city
and
and
serve
the
city
and
the
planning
commission,
council
members
any
questions
or
comments.
B
L
Yes,
amy.
Thank
you
very
much
for
volunteering
and
put
your
name
in
that.
I
really
appreciate
your
effort
and
I
really
appreciate
all
the
work
you
do
in
the
the
local
community.
So
thank
you.
B
Thank
you.
Excellent.
As
you
heard
my
schmidt,
but
I'll
give
it
again,
you
will
be
on
our
consent
agenda
at
seven
o'clock
tonight
or
well,
it'll
be
later,
but
our
formal
meeting
starts
at
seven.
You
do
not
have
to
log
in
and
we
look
forward
to
your
service
on
the
planning
commission.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you
all
right.
Council
members.
B
Item
number
13
is
the
utah
inland
port
authority
board.
So,
as
everyone
is
aware,
council
former
council
member
rogers
was
serving
as
the
the
council
representative
on
the
utah
inland
court
board,
utah
inland
port
authority
board,
and
we
now
need
to
fill
that
seat
so
similar
to
how
we
did
this
in
for
the
vice
chair.
I
will
ask
for
nominations,
however,
you
want
to
do
it
and
then
we
will
take
a
vote
in
the
chat
vote
to
the
host
and
then
whoever
treats
who's
running
the
show.
B
Today,
whoever
tracy
is
running
the
show
right,
taylor,
taylor's
running
the
show
today
she
will
gather
those
votes
and
send
it
to
us
at
cindy,
lou
and
then
cindy
will
go
from
there.
Sorry
that
was
really
convoluted,
but
you
know
there
we
go
so
I
the
nominations
are
open.
K
J
B
Sure,
council,
member
ferris
tell
us
why
you
would
like
to
be
on
this
board.
J
Utah's,
inland
port
authority
is
a
very
big
deal
in
the
city
in
this
region.
It
is
at
least
half
of
it
is
in
the
district
two.
We
are
impacted
most
tremendously
by
the
possibilities
that
could
come
to
fruition
there.
There
are
more
railways
and
freeways
in
district
2
than
any
other
space.
J
We
are
more
impacted
by
all
of
those
things,
so
I
definitely
feel
that
it's
fair
and
frankly,
the
right
thing
to
do
to
have
a
representative
from
the
west
side,
be
a
member
of
the
inland
port
be
able
to
represent
our
constituents
that
are
most
directly
impacted.
B
All
right,
in
that
case,
I
don't
think
that
we
need
to
put
anything
in
the
chat
we
have
unanimously
selected
dennis
as
our
representative
on
the
uweepa
board.
J
B
You're
welcome.
The
next
item
is
report
from
the
chair
and
vice
chair.
B
B
I'll
look
for
a
motion
to
enter
into
a
closed
session
for
advice
of
counsel
purposes.
K
C
Also
need
to
add
just
to
cover
a
second
topic
that,
pending
or
reasonably
imminent
litigation.
K
I
would
add
to
that
also
to
discuss
pending
or
reasonably
imminent
litigation.