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From YouTube: Salt Lake City Council Work Session - 08/16/2022
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A
The
north
point
small
area
plan
area,
not
our
plan.
Sorry
about
that,
the
planning
commission
briefing
was
held
on
july
27th
and
the
official
45-day
public
input
period
started.
Then
it
should
be
in
front
of
the
planning
commission
for
a
hearing
in
october
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
modifications.
This
was
something
proposed
or
initiated
by
the
planning
commission.
A
They
were
briefed
on
the
10th
and
the
public
hearing
is
scheduled
for
september
and
then
the
affordable
housing
incentives.
The
planning
commission
public
hearing
was
held
on
may
11th
staff
is
analyzing
the
input
from
the
commission
and
the
public
and
they're
working
with
the
private
sector
to
develop
pro
formas
to
see
if
the
incentives
make
financial
sense
at
sixty
percent
ami,
which
is
something
that
was
heard
frequently
from
the
public.
A
This
work
from
the
private
sector
will
be
verified
by
an
independent
analysis
and
if
the
incentives
make
financial
sense,
the
proposal
will
move
to
the
next
round
of
engagement,
with
whatever
modifications
are
necessary,
they
will
start
working
on
enforcement
tools
as
well
to
administer
the
proposal
and
if
any
changes
are
made,
then
additional
time
for
public
input
will
be
provided
before.
A
second
planning
commission
public
hearing
is
scheduled
next
slide
or
any
questions
on
that
one.
That
was
a
lot.
I
know
the
planning
was
a
lot
housing
slc.
This
is
salt.
A
Lake
city
is
creating
a
new
housing
plan
with
the
goals
of
a
city
where
everyone
feels
welcome,
safe
and
comfortable
and
a
city
where
that
belongs
to
everyone
and
where
everyone
can
live
affordably.
This
is
a
survey.
That's
live
through
the
feedback
page
where
people
can
start
engaging
in
this
process.
A
Next
slide.
Public
lands
team
is
doing
a
survey
on
wasatch
hollow
park,
they're
looking
to
learn
more
about
the
current
and
desired
activities
in
wasatch
hollow
particularly
around
off
leash
dogs.
Wasatch
hollow
park
was
officially
designated
for
off-leash
hours
in
2017,
and
the
city
has
designated
new,
informative
signage
on
the
off-leash
rules,
which
will
be
installed
in
the
coming
weeks.
You
can
share
your
thoughts
and
opinions
on
wasatch
hollow
park
and
its
uses
by
going
through
the
feedback.
Page
next
slide
transportation.
A
The
main
street
striping
we've
been
talking
about
this
for
a
little
while,
and
it's
happening
right
now
so
by
the
end
of
next
week.
It's
my
understanding.
It
will
be
re-striped
with
one
lane
of
travel
in
each
direction
and
a
two-way
turn
lane
in
the
center.
So
one
travel
lane
in
each
direction
is
going
to
be
removed
and
they've
been
communicating
regularly
with
the
residents
and
businesses
along
the
way.
A
Next
slide,
a
quick
update
on
the
south
temple
drain
rehabilitation.
This
project
should
be
done
on
august.
26Th
traffic
should
be
flowing
in
both
directions.
So
that's
exciting
to
see
the
end
of
that
project
and
then
next
slide,
I'm
adding
this
one
totally
open
to
feedback,
hoping
that
it
will
be
helpful
for
everybody.
A
This
is
a
list
of
upcoming
events
through
the
end
of
august
and
I
can
add
any
information.
Obviously
this
is
very
limited
information,
but
it
gets
very
busy
on
the
slide.
If
I
add
too
much,
this
is
just
to
give
people
an
update.
These
are
generally
events
that
were
funded
through
the
ace
grant
fund
or
that
the
city
has
some
sort
of
connection
or
relationship
or
involvement
with.
So
obviously
it's
not
everything
going
on
in
the
city,
but
these
are
some
great
ones
that
are
coming
up.
A
I
just
will
draw
your
attention
to
a
couple
of
course:
downtown
farmers
market,
as
well
as
the
ninth
west
farmers
market,
that
the
ninth
west
farmer's
market
is
on
the
21st,
the
kensington
street
festival,
which
is
something
the
mayor's
office,
has
been
collaborating
with
roja
brewing
brewing
in
ballpark.
That
will
be
on
the
27th
7th
of
august,
which
will
be
a
great
event
with
music
and
food
and
celebrating
the
ballpark
community
and
would
love
to
see
any
council
members
attend
any
of
these
events.
A
You
know
what
let
me
pull
that
up
one
second,
this
was
this
was
my
concern
is
that
I
put
two
limited
information.
Of
course,
you're
going
to
ask
a
question:
it's
in
liberty
park,
yep
from
eight
to
five.
B
A
It
it
may
not
have
everything
on
here
and
I
would
love
to
add
anything
that
you
would
like
on
it.
This
is
not
this.
Was
it's
not
posted
really
anywhere
else.
This
is
generally
for
tabling
internally,
where
the
staff
will
go
and
put
a
table
so
we'll
work
on
that,
but
that's
a
good
addition.
Thank
you.
D
You'll
see
the
occupancy
occupancy
rate
for
the
resource.
Centers
is
about
the
same
as
last
week,
96
or
so
next
slide.
D
D
We,
the
county,
did
lead
some
abatements
last
week
this
week
most
of
the
staff
are
off,
and
so
they
don't
have
anything
planned,
but
next
week,
they'll
be
likely
back
in
the
jordan
river
as
a
focus.
The
plan
has
been
to
make
sure
that,
prior
to
school,
that
there's
a
number
of
efforts
going
on,
particularly
along
bachmann
area
and
north,
but
also
jackson,
elementary
off
of
north
temple
and
horizonte
in
the
ballpark
neighborhood.
So
you'll
see
those
going
up
there
and
the
rapid
intervention
teams
also
are
seeing
city
parks.
D
D
D
So
up
on
the
screen
right
now,
you'll
see
that
traditionally,
there's
unsheltered
homelessness,
resource,
centers,
even
seasonal
ones,
housing
right
and
then
in
this
city,
we've
had
the
voa
outreach
teams
for
a
number
of
years
in
this
county,
one
of
the
hardest
things
sometimes
for
cities
who
do
a
lot
of
housing
work
is
connecting
folks
who
are
unsheltered
to
the
actual
housing.
It
seems
intuitive
that
people
just
flow
that
way,
but
it
doesn't
always
work
that
way
and
so
from
the
outreach
teams.
D
Two
years
two
years
ago,
when
the
point
was
used
for
the
seasonal
overflow,
everyone
came
through
there
through
the
outreach
teams
for
the
most
part
and
that's
how
they
filled
it
up
in
four
to
five
days,
irish
teams
tend
to
have
much
more
of
a
boots
on
the
ground.
Knowledge
what's
happening
by
name
lists
where
people
are
located
situations
all
those
kind
of
things
so
they're
a
crucial
component
of
this.
In
cities
that
work
really
well
next
slide,
please
you'll
see
that
they're,
adding
in
something
else
that
we've
done
here.
D
The
rapid
intervention
team
is
kind
of
in
the
middle
there.
Now.
The
reason
this
is
important
is
because
you
need
a
targeted
intervention
to
help.
Folks
number
one
know
who's
out
there
and
what's
the
right
fit
and
help
them,
and
then
you
need
patience
with
them.
I
think
a
good
example
recently
was
in
this
city.
D
We
had
voa
is
a
part
of
that
rapid
intervention
team,
so
oftentimes
there's
a
collaborative
discussion
every
week
on
thursdays,
they'll
talk
through
all
the
camps
that
are
known
and
people
are
outside,
and
then
they
will
target
a
specific
outreach
by
the
teams
and
get
updates
on
what
they're
finding
so
they'll
go
out
for
a
week
two
weeks
sometimes,
and
then
report
back
and
say
these
are
the
individuals
we
know
there.
Here's
some
of
the
concerns,
here's
who's
engaging
who's,
not
what's
a
different
tactic.
They
can
take.
D
They
did
this
recently
with
a
couple
they
found
in
a
park
in
the
city,
a
woman
was
pregnant.
Actually,
and
after
a
week
there
wasn't
much
movement
at
all
seemed
like
they
just
didn't.
They
want
services,
no
help
that.
Second
week,
though,
she
opened
up.
If
it
was
trust,
it
was
something
else
happening
in
her
life,
but
she,
actually,
by
the
end
of
that
second
week,
got
into
services
and
that
clap
was
that
camp
was
clear.
They
both
got
in
to
actually
shelter.
D
That's
how
that's
this
should
work
when
you
resolve
the
camp,
you
resolve
it
into
shelter
or
housing,
and
that
rapid
intervention
team
is
our
proactive
approach
as
we
keep
working
on
housing
and
other
interventions
to
make
that
work.
We've
also
this
year,
thanks
to
you
all,
also
added
in
down
below
you'll,
see
an
unsheltered
stabilization
concept.
Now,
in
some
places,
that's
open
air
resource
center
concepts.
D
In
the
circumstances,
it's
sort
of
a
win-win
for
everybody.
So
that's
why
we're
doing
that
there
and
it
functions
in
this
way.
So
you
move
into
permanent
housing
from
there
now,
you'll
also
see
at
the
top
a
percentage
this
year.
So
we've
talked
about
the
calm
process
and
the
winter
overflow
in
our
county.
We
need
about
1700
beds,
total
about
1300.
We
have
year
round
between
the
three
resource
centers
and
the
family
center,
so
we
need
about
400
ish
beds.
D
We
think
this
winter
time
you
can
see
percentages
of
what
that
means
up
there
for
our
local
jurisdiction.
You
can
see
in
the
bottom.
If
you
looked
at
the
concept
of
an
unsheltered
stabilization
concept,
best
practices
is
less
than
50
people
per.
So
if
we
did
one
of
those,
it
would
be
three
percent
of
the
need-
and
you
can
see
sort
of
cost
benefit
analysis
and
those
questions
we
got
to
think
through.
So
using
the
motel
rooms
was
a
I'll
say,
a
cost
effective
way
in
the
short
term.
D
D
We'll
also
be
coming
towards
you,
with
the
council
towards
the
council,
with
options
and
proposals
for
more
funding
for
housing
to
come
online
short
term
in
the
next
six
months.
D
It's
not
enough.
We
know
that
it
is
not
enough,
but
the
framework
and
the
bones
are
here
for
a
system
that
could
work
very
very
well
if
we
keep
investing
in
it
and
working
hard
at
this.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
we
brought
that
up
today
and
if
there's
any
questions
I
can
answer,
we
can
talk
offline,
obviously,
but.
C
D
So
those
are
master
lease,
so
voa
can
access
one
three,
five,
ten
of
them
at
a
time
depending
on
who
they've
got
what
they'll
do
is
they'll
judge
it
based
on
who's,
interacting
with
them
and
the
circumstances,
and
they
can
fill
them
up
right
now.
They're
saying
they
don't
need
more
immediately,
but
they
might
in
the
future.
One
of
the
big
considerations
across
the
entire
system
this
year,
which
is
fairly
new,
is
struggle
finding
staff
and
the
voa
outreach
teams
are
not
immune
to
that.
D
They've
had
a
high
turnover,
and
so
part
of
that
is
the
restriction
as
well,
because
we
always
want
a
case
manager
attached
to
everyone
in
there
because
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done,
you
need
to
work
with
the
motel.
The
individuals
problem
solve
process
to
get
into
housing
the
whole
deal,
so
the
motel
itself
is
safer
than
being
outside,
but
it
also
works
best
when
you
have
that
staff
component
to
it
right
and.
C
This
is
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
salt
lake
city.
Hotels.
Are
other
cities
doing
the
same
thing
or
have
they
showed
any
interest
or
disinterest
in
doing
similar,
where
we
can?
Actually,
we
had
hotel
vouchers
and
maybe
even
account
the
case
managers
to
help
them,
or
they
had
case
managers
of
going
other
than
just
salt
lake
city,
hotels,.
D
I
am
not
aware
of
case
managers
outside
of
the
voa
for
this
county
and
the
road
home
specifically
to
families.
That's
who
focuses
on
that
now.
There's
some
other
smaller
groups
who
do
similar
things.
Traditionally,
counties
have
been
the
driver
in
behavioral
health
and
these
kind
of
services,
and
they
have
other
counties,
have
used
motel
rooms.
Historically,
I
couldn't
tell
you
how
many
are
being
used
currently
and
the
details
there,
but
that
has
been
traditionally
in
lieu
of
traditional
shelter
services.
Some
counties
have
done
that.
D
We
have
seen
a
tight,
a
tightening
of
those
resources,
though,
because
through
covet
a
lot
of
class
c
motels,
which
is
what
we're
talking
about,
have
been
sold.
There
wasn't
a
lot
of
money
in
it
for
the
owners.
The
land
was
more
and
more
valuable,
so
we've
lost
a
lot
of
that
and
even
locally
things.
We've
used
recently
in
the
last
say
five
years
ago
are
not
there
anymore.
So
we
have
had
fewer
beds
available
to
use
and
the
other
thing
is
we
work
very
hard.
D
The
providers
work
very
hard
to
cultivate
the
relationship
with
the
owner
of
the
motel.
So
if
there
are
incidents,
it
doesn't
taint
their
relationship
and
they
don't
close
off
beds
to
everybody
going
forward.
That's
really
probably
half
the
work
of
the
of
the
staff
to
make
sure
we
retain
those
relationships
we
keep
using
them
year
after
year.
D
This
program
is
funded
through
this
city
and
we
have
done
that
on
the
heels
of
previous
efforts.
We've
done
for
a
few
years
now
for
women,
specifically
in
motel
rooms,
the
last
two
three
years.
That
program
couldn't
continue
forward
based
on
staffing
and
other
capacity
issues.
So
the
money
that
the
city
reinvested
in
there
was
utilizing
the
same
rooms
smaller
number
with
the
same
operators,
we're
comfortable
with
and
they're
comfortable
with
us
and
utilizing
voa
as
the
staffing
to
keep
using
those
rooms
for
targeted
people.
E
Thank
you.
I
know
you
all
have
heard
my
voice
a
lot
this
week.
So
thank
you
any
time
we
have
additional
ways
of
demonstrating
the
clarity
of
how
things
are
and
adding
tools
to
the
tool
belt.
I
am
like
on
board
and
gonna
be
advocating.
E
I
don't
know
if
it's
right
to
do
it
here,
maybe
we
should
do
it
later
in
a
small
group,
but
if
I
could
get
some
clarity
around
what
the
open
air
hrc
concept
is,
I
think
I
understand
it,
but
I'd
I'd
like
some
clarity
like
and
the
other
thing
is,
if
I
could
get
some
apples
to
apples
comparisons,
so
I
know
we're
saying
that
open
air
hrc
would
take
care
of
three
percent
of
the
total
need,
I'm
assuming
that's
the
7
1700
beds.
You
were
referring
to
what's
the
percentage
that
the
case
managed.
E
Motel
rooms
do
just
so
that,
as
we
start
to
look
at
this
from
a
financial
consideration,
we
can
have
an
idea
of
when
it
comes
time
for
us
to
either
innovate,
streams
or
renew
streams.
We
can
have
an
idea
of
if
there's
more
of
an
impact.
It
would
also
be
helpful
for
me
to
know
the
motel
rooms.
How
long
typically
are
we
keeping
people
there
and
would
would
the
compa?
Would
the
other
thing
listed
there?
The
open
air
hrc?
E
Would
it
be
comparable
lengths
of
stay?
Is
you
know?
Those
sorts
of
things
would
really
help
me
understand
more
fully.
What
we're
dealing
with
here
and
thank
you.
I
acknowledge
that
we
as
a
city
are
doing
a
herculean
lift
here,
and
I
hope
that
everyone
else
follows
the
example
of
it
and
and
buys
in
so
that
the
humanity
here
is
centered
and
we
find
good
solutions
to
this.
D
Be
happy
to
talk
offline
in
small
group
meetings
about
all
those
details.
Definitely
a
quick
follow-up
to
councilmember
petr,
a
previous
question
about
the
salt
lake
city
mobile
app,
which
we
use
for
a
lot
of
reporting
in
the
city
we
had
about
6
000.
Last
year
the
council
did
approve
additional
funding
for
our
staff
and
so
they've
hired
one
staff
already
to
help
the
heart
team.
D
With
that
specific
issue
and
the
second
one's
on
the
way
that'll
help
process
those
more
quickly,
there's
also
some
limitation
in
the
current
format
of
the
app
itself,
where,
if
you
send
an
request
in
you've,
probably
gotten
an
email
back
saying
it's
either
in
process
or
closed
when
it's
closed,
it
means
it's
been
moved
to
another
department.
D
So
it
doesn't
actually
say
that
it's
sort
of
been
handled.
We
infer
that.
Sometimes
there
is
a
movement
to
move
it
to
the
salesforce
platform,
which
would
add
some
more
capacity
to
that
process
and
help
us
to
be
more
responsive,
just
updates
and
things
like
that.
But
you
can
imagine
it's
hard
with.
We
had
a
half
a
part-time
person
over
6
000
of
those
last
year,
so
we're
still
working
through
those
issues
to
make
sure
we're
trying
to
respond
to
the
public
as
much
as
possible.
C
Thank
you,
andrew
councilmember,
fowler.
C
F
So
andrew,
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
rapid
intervention
team
and
the
heart
team.
You
brought
up
an
example
and
if
it's
the
same
couple,
I'm
thinking
of
then
I
know
them
and
I
think
that
they
were
able
to
get
married
on
the
river
through
kayak
court
and
and
so
when
we
talk
about
the
trust
and
it's
something
that
I've
been
talking
about.
F
I
have
to
give
huge
props
to
the
heart
team
by
the
way
for
all
of
the
work
that
they
do,
and
so
I
recognize
what
you're
saying
with
rapid
intervention
and-
and
I
don't
need
an
answer
to
this-
this
is
all
a
comment.
Is.
F
They
were
actually
looking
at
the
audits
and
saying
this
is
how
we
helped
people.
This
is
the
team
that
helped
people.
This
is
how
we're
kind
of
doing
this,
not
that
I
want
to
get
rid
of
anybody,
I'm
not
saying
that,
but
that
it's
similar
to
our
alternative
response
model
right
that
how
are
we
actually
looking
at
these
things
and
saying
what
is
effective?
F
What
isn't
effective
so
that
we're
not
just
spinning
our
wills,
because
I
I
think
that
we
under
utilize,
some
of
the
teams
and
programs
that
are
already
out
there
doing
the
work.
F
The
llc
app
thank
you
was
that
I
just
want
to
thank
the
city
for
this
app.
It
has
helped
a
lot
of
communities
in
my
neighborhood,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
police
if
they're
there.
If
chief
brown
is
online,
I
had
some
very
good
feedback
from
the
way
that
the
police
handled
the
situation
within
our
community
over
in
sugar
house,
and
so
I
just
want
to
throw
that
out
there
real,
quick.
D
Thank
you,
council.
I
think
efficiency
is
critical,
as
you
mentioned,
and
I'd
love
to
keep
talking
through
that
again.
We
started
this
fairly
recently
and
we
try
to
use
existing
teams
already
in
process,
but
we
can
always
do
better
and
keep
working
at
it.
So
thank
you.
C
B
Now
that
we're
talking
about
not
ringing
or
trying
to
make
things
as
efficient
as
possible,
so
it's
a
recurring
thing
theme
that
I've
been
hearing
from
the
providers
and
from
you
andrew
that
one
of
the
biggest
issues
that
we're
having
is
that
we
don't
have
enough
staff
to
staff
the
different
resource,
centers
or
housing
and
stuff
like
that.
So
have
any
of
the
service
providers
asked
or
talk
to
you
about.
B
Maybe
the
city
ought
to
invest,
and
I
know
it's
kind
of
out
of
our
lane,
but
ought
to
invest
in
education
and
in
for
those
folks
are,
are
interested
in
helping,
but
they
need
to
get
certified
like
your
certified
clinician
or
those
type
or
social
worker,
some
sort
of
a
program
that
where
we
can
actually
start
producing
as
well,
the
staff
that
needs
to
help
the
homeless
population
so
any
talks
any
requests,
any
ideas
that
maybe
you're
like.
Oh
maybe
you
know
we,
we
do
all
of
these
things.
B
D
Labor
market
shortages
are
complex
and
difficult.
I
think
the
the
providers
have
a
variety
of
positions.
A
lot
of
the
turnover
which
is
pretty
typical
is
frontline
staff,
who
aren't
necessarily
licensed
clinicians,
who
are
trained
on
site
or
have
some
previous
work
and
a
lot
of
times
are
hired
because
of
their
just
innate
sort
of
attributes.
You
can.
You
can
teach
a
lot
of
the
skills
of
doing
things
like
that,
but
the
attributes
are
what
really
make
great
staff
members
with
clients.
So
one
of
the
struggles
is
pay.
D
Obviously,
one
of
it
is
just
a
difficulty
through
covet
and
postcovid
in
a
number
of
people
looking
for
jobs
and
moving,
and
the
loss
of
a
lot
of
folks
over
the
age
of
60
65
in
the
labor
force
has
been
a
piece
of
this,
so
those
are
large
trends
that
are
difficult.
I
think
there's
been
talk
at
the
state
about
for
licensed
clinicians.
How
do
you
increase
the
number
of
folks
in
the
post-second,
secondary
and
post-secondary
school
system,
the
colleges
and
master's
degree
programs?
D
How
do
you
help
them
pay
off
loans
at
the
back
end,
which
the
state
could
do
and
has
done
some
of
that
in
the
past?
So
there's
a
lot
of
current
programs
that
could
be
expanded,
you're
right,
I
think,
from
a
city
perspective
that
would
be
a
good
policy
discussion
about.
Is
that
the
land
to
get
into
and
how
to
do
that
and
how
to
do
that
and
making
sure
that
the
benefit
comes
back
to
the
city
that
way,
because
you're
talking
about
a
region
and
a
little
national
sort
of
thing?
D
C
I
think
that's
a
that
would
be
a
great
conversation
with
wayne
because
that's
that's
bigger
funding
than
probably
salt
lake
city,
but
definitely
with
the
the
state
side
of
the
house,
but
that's
you're,
absolutely
correct
and
there
is
a
definitely
labor
shortage
on
case
managers
and
social
workers
across
probably
the
world
at
this
point.
So
it's.
B
Just
to
add
to
that,
because
I'm
also
thinking
you
know
we
do
have
the
resources
within
the
homeless
community.
Those
are
a
little
bit
ahead
or
you
know
more
able
to
work.
Maybe
those
are
the
ones
that
we
employ
so
that
they
can
help.
You
know,
because
they
already
have
that
community
knowledge
and
also
the
trust
that
amy
was
thinking
about.
Maybe
they
are
the
ones
that
take
over
some
of
these
positions
and
help
one.
D
Of
the
person
I
like
the
idea,
I
think
one
of
the
the
concepts
that
has
a
lot
of
merit
and
has
some
already
track
record-
is
peer
support
positions.
These
are
folks
who
live
to
experience,
mental
health
system,
substance,
abuse
system,
even
the
homeless
system,
and
there
is
a
state
certification
process,
but
they
function
in
a
way
that
most
of
their
staff
can't
and
those
are
systems
that
we
could
clearly
bulk
up
and
get
more
folks
into
in
a
very
safe
way
for
everybody
involved,
but
very
effective
way.
H
Thank
you
andrew.
I,
you
know
this
is
a
question
that
just
happened.
You
know,
after
your
presentation
I
I
was-
and
I
think
I
me
might
have
misunderstand
this
or
was
confused
my
mind-
often
just
wanders
away.
So
when
we
were
talking
about
motel
rooms
per
the
chairs
question,
the
boa
said
that
they
don't
need
more
vouchers
for
motel
rooms.
Is
that
what
I
understood.
D
So
right
now,
based
on
the
staff,
they've
got
and
the
number
of
clients
yeah,
that's
where
they're
saying
they
could
use
what
they
have
right
now.
I
think
clearly
be
a
discussion
going
forward
about
the
need.
What
they're,
seeing
and
I've
mentioned
to
them-
to
keep
bringing
back
to
us.
What
the
need
they're
seeing
is.
H
So
it
seems
like
because
if
the
hrcs
are
97-
and
we
have
hundreds
of
people
in
the
street,
there's
obviously
a
need,
but
maybe
there
isn't.
Maybe
there
is
some
people
that
just
don't
want
to
either
our
option
right.
Well,.
D
The
issue
is
always
all
right:
get
the
right,
motel
and
the
right
operator
who
can
work
with
you,
because
if
it
goes
south
they
clear
everybody
out
right.
We
never
use
that
motel
again
and
then
the
staffing
is
a
huge
piece
of
this.
It's
hard
to
or
state
that
so
this
this
works
right
now,
because
we
knew
the
motel
operator.
H
H
Today
we
went
to
a
meeting
with
council
member
orton
here
about
rbs
and
from
from
some
of
the
neighbors,
and
it's
obviously
a
struggle,
and
I
can
see
a
path-
and
maybe
I'm
wrong,
you're
the
expert
on
this,
but
I
can
see
a
path
from
someone
in
a
park
or
pitching
a
tent
in
a
park
or
on
the
trail,
to
the
process
to
into
helping
them
into
housing
right.
H
What
is
that
the
same
process
that
we
we
have
for
people
that
live
in
rvs
is
trying
to
get
them
through
the
same
path
because
I
feel
like.
Maybe
this
is
my
perception,
but
maybe
they're
a
little
different,
meaning
they
have
possessions,
and
maybe
they
don't
want
to
give
some
of
those
positions
away.
What
I
mean
is
this
a
reasonable
thought,
or
what
is
your
expert
expertise.
D
Yeah,
so
everyone's
different,
obviously
everyone
gravitates
to
what
feels
most
comfortable
and
what's
feasible
for
them.
So
folks
who
gravitate
to
a
vehicle
or
an
rv
oftentimes,
do
feel
that's
their
home,
sometimes
I'll
frame
it
as
I'm
I'm
more
itinerant.
This
is
where
my
stuff
is.
I
can
move
wherever
I
feel
comfortable
great,
so
offering
sort
of
a
congregate
shelter
to
somebody
like
that
who
has
privacy
already
they're,
stuffed
with
them
generally,
they
feel
contained,
is
not
very
attractive.
So
we
do
know
that
folks
in
vehicles,
oftentimes
don't
come
into
congregate,
shelter
options.
D
D
So
there
are
some
differences
at
times
some
folks.
Clearly,
when
the
voa
outreach
teams
engage
with
them,
do
not
view
themselves
as
homeless
in
any
way
and
that's
their
right,
because
we
have
a
large
population
in
this
country
who
lives
out
of
vehicles.
D
Rv
parks,
itinerant
folks,
seasonal
workers
there's
a
lot
of
folks
out
there,
and
so
it's
a
very
sort
of
nuanced
thing
about
how
somebody
self-identifies
what
they
see
as
their
needs
or
what
they'd
like
and
that's
part
of
the
reason
I
started
out
with
the
rapid
intervention
team
concept
is
that
to
council
member
fowler's
point.
We
need
frequent
contact,
we
need
to
build
rapport
on
relationships
and
be
have
integrity
about
those
with
folks
out
there
for
them
to
sort
of,
listen
and
understand.
D
There
are
options
and
try
and
tailor
what
we
have
to
their
needs
and
that's
a
process.
So
sometimes
we
talk
about
rapid
intervention
team.
We
think
about
quick
right
within
an
hour
taken
care
of
the
intent
of
it
is
to
be
there
five
days
a
week
instead
of
one
or
two
that's
more
rapid,
but
the
real
intent
is
to
ensure
we're
doing
the
upfront
work
with
people
to
understand
them
to
try
and
tailor
our
interventions
with
their
needs.
D
F
Hi
everyone
I
andrew,
thank
you
so
much
for
all
of
this.
I
want
to
clarify
something,
and
then
I
had
a
question
but
my
mind
got
on
the
clarification
thing.
I
hope
that
in
talking
about
rapid
intervention
and
heart
and
all
of
the
things
I'm
not,
I
want
all
of
you
to
know
that.
I
know
all
of
the
work
that
you're
doing
and
I
appreciate
it
and
you're
attacking
that
attacking
is
the
wrong
word
you're.
F
Looking
at
this
from
all
of
the
facets,
and
I
I
don't
want
to
come
across
as
if
I
don't
appreciate
it,
because
I
do
very
much
so,
and
I
appreciate
your
willingness
to
take
in
the
the
thoughts
and
ideas
of
all
of
us,
council,
members
and
and
the
experiences
that
we
have
had
and
our
community
members
have
had.
F
But
I
I
this
is
hard
just
generally,
it
is
difficult
it's
hard
to
to
know
that
people
need
help
and
we
don't
know
how
to
help
and
we're
doing
everything
we
can
on
all
sides
right
on
people
that
are
sheltered
and
people
that
are
unsheltered,
and
so
I
I
first
want
to
just
clarify
that.
My
my
question
regarding
the
rapid
intervention
and
the
heart
team
was
not
a
question
as
if
you
were
doing
something
wrong.
F
It
makes
me
think
about
more
about
sanctioned
camping
and
if
there
is
a
possibility
to
look
into
some
of
our
koas
or
or
things
like
that,
that
we
could
have
a
space
for
people
because
you're
right
one
of
the
things
we
talk
about
when
when
we
are
doing
kayak
court
or
our
homeless
resource
center,
but
particularly
kayak
court,
is
that
we
are
coming
upon
someone's
home,
but
they
have
established
as
their
home,
and
we
have
to
take
a
totally
different
outlook
and
view
on
that.
F
And
I
appreciate
andrew
so
much
of.
F
F
F
I
would
love
to
see
if
we
could
work
with
some
of
our
service
providers
in
having
apprenticeship
programs
just
the
way
we
do
it
in
any
other
city
department,
but
kind
of
it
would
be
an
interlocal
type
of
thing
where
we
look
at
apprenticeship
programs
for
people
who
are
going
through
or
have
been
through
the
program
and
then
to
the
point
that
you
made
andrew
of
like
peer-to-peer,
support
but
elevate
that
a
little
bit
so
ideas
throwing
it
out
there.
I'm
down
thanks.
D
Thanks
councilmember
yeah
always
open
to
small
group
meetings.
We
talked
about
earlier
to
talk
through
all
the
details
of
that
that
that
concept-
I
guess
maybe-
and
we
have
a
lot
more
information.
We
could
share
that
michelle
hoon
and
her
team
have
done
and
I'm
sure
the
heart
team
is
listening.
So
thank
you,
councilmember
for
that.
C
B
I
can
just
text
it
to
you
guys,
but
I
remember
that
we
asked
the
you
one
of
one
of
the
groups
that
does
studies
about
the
correlation
between
homelessness
and
mental
health
issues.
Where
is
that?
Are
we
getting
something
soon.
I
We're
probably
not
getting
something
soon,
because
we're
still
what
what
they
said
in
response
to
us
is
that
it
would
help
us
help
them
if
we
brought
together
brought
in
this,
the
state
and
the
county
with
us
on
that
concept,
and
so
I've
made
an
initial
contact
with
the
county,
but
we'll
we'll
have
to
do
more
on
that.
So
we
we
don't
have
anything
imminent
on
that
front.
C
J
K
Yeah
thanks
brian
for
the
introduction
there,
so
this
is
about
eight
tenths
of
an
acre,
there's,
currently
single
family
dwelling
and
a
garage
on
the
lot.
K
It's
kind
of
a
unique
condition
because
it
has
what's
called
a
transitional
overlay,
which
is
an
overlay
that
has
only
been
mapped
a
few
times
in
the
city
and
so
what
it
does
do
is
it
already
allows
for
commercial
or
light
industrial
uses
to
be
conducted
on
that
property
as
long
as
it's
approved
by
the
planning
commission
through
the
conditional
use
process?
So
in
some
ways
this
is
changing
in
the
sense
that
it's
going
from
a
single-family
zone,
but
the
the
idea
or
the
opportunity
to
have
commercial
or
mixed
uses
is
not
a
new
one.
K
K
K
It
is
supported
by
the
west
side
master
plan
that
is
looking
at
making
a
lot
of
transitions
in
on
that
seventh
west
industrial
corridor
that
stuck
between
southwest
and
I-15,
but
it
kind
of
pins,
residential
neighborhoods
just
across
the
street,
and
so
the
west
side
master
plan
talks
a
lot
about
trying
to
create
a
more
mixed
use,
environment
and
finding
ways
to
help
these
flight
industrial
uses,
maybe
move
to
a
more
appropriate
location.
K
It
was
also
supported
by
plant
salt
lake,
as
I
mentioned,
didn't
receive
a
significant
amount
of
other
feedback.
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
If
I
can.
C
Thank
you,
john
council.
Any
questions,
john.
I
have
a
couple
questions
for
you.
Okay,
there
I
looked
at
the
cb
and
there's
no
side
yard
setback
and
my
concern
is:
there
would
be
no
side
yard
setback
for
the
single-family
r1
zone
to
the
north,
and
is
there
a
way
to
have
a
a
setback
between
the
the
cb
and
that
that
district
over
there.
K
So
any
use
that
would
be
a
conditional
use
in
that
district
would
still
be
required
to
have
the
added
setbacks
to
it
if
it
was
a
permitted
use
it
wouldn't
have
to,
and
so,
if
we
wanted
to
do
that
to
add
there,
we
would
have
to
request
that
through
development
agreement
to
be
signed
with
the
applicants,
but
we
could
reach
out
to
them
to
see
if
that's
something
that's
they'd
be
willing
to
look
at.
C
Yeah
because
I
I
don't
want
to
have
a
building
right
up
against
that
single-family
homes
up
just
to
the
north
of
that
and
then
the
other.
C
Would
be,
is
there
a
need
for
I'm
gonna
back
up
for
a
second
cb?
C
K
Yeah,
so
cn
allows
housing
as
a
part
of
a
mixed
use.
Development
cb
does
not
require
that
there
be
a
commercial
there.
It
would.
The
density
requirements
would
be
met
by
looking
at
you
know
what
what
could
they
fill
fit
in
that
box
when
they
look
at
our
maximum
building
height,
which
is
30
feet?
K
This
is
one
of
our
zones
that
actually
does
have
design
standards
and
design
requirements,
unlike
some
other
commercial
zones,
and
this
one
actually
any
building
that
reaches
over
1500
square
feet
would
have
to
go
through
design
review
with
the
planning
commission,
which
you
know,
adds
obviously
that
extra
level
of
review-
and
you
know
the
expectations-
is
that,
if
you're
going
through
design
review
that
they
were
going
to
get
a
better
product
because
you're
asking
for
a
building,
that's
a
little
bit
bigger
than
we
would
normally
allow
permitted.
C
The
next
one
is
on
the
there's
one
single-family
home
on
the
property,
and
is
there
a
can?
We
have
a
development
agreement
to
make
sure
that
we
have
at
least
one
replacement
for
that
unit.
K
Yes-
and
you
know
what
that's
probably
something
I
should
have
hit
on,
so
they
have
gone
through
housing
loss
mitigation
and
their
proposal.
You
know
we
can
always
have
a
few
ways
to
get
through
that,
but
they're
proposing
to
meet
housing
lost
mitigation
by
signing
a
development
agreement
guaranteeing
that
there
would
be
at
least
one
residential
unit
replaced.
C
I
think
I've
said
that,
before
the
the
questions
about
the,
I
guess,
there's
a
big
siberian
elm
on
the
on
the
property
and
people
want
to
keep
that
thing.
I'm
not
sure
whether
excuse
me,
where
it's
located
or
if
that's
even
an
avenue,
to
preserve
our
old
trees.
K
Sure
I
can't
speak
to
it,
but
I
can
look
into
it
and
I
can
talk
to
the
owner
a
little
bit.
I
know
it's
probably
not
in
the
right
way,
because
there's
not
any
curb
gutter
or
sidewalk
there.
Yet
so,
thankfully,
this
development
will
involve.
You
know
increasing
the
urban
forest
in
that
neighborhood,
but
I
can
look
into
that
tree.
C
As
well
all
right
appreciate
that
very
much
counsel.
Any
other
questions
you
don't
have
any
time.
Sorry,
because
ollie
told
me
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much.
Sean
brian
appreciate
your
chat
thanks
for
the
brief
all
right.
Thank
you,
council.
Thank
you.
Brian.
We're.
Moving
on
to
item
number
three
informational
with
cindy
liu
coming
up
for
a
ranked
choice,
voting
overview.
C
And
I
think
we
have
sherry
swenson
will
be
available
for
questions.
If
we
have
any
questions
there.
Oh
sorry,
we
have
ben
give
us
the
up
the
initial
take
on
it
and
olivia.
Thank
you.
M
M
In
addition
to
the
awareness
campaign,
we
have
shared
with
you
today,
information
about
different
analyses
that
have
been
completed
and
would
like
to
draw
a
few
items
to
your
attention.
So
obviously
the
awareness
campaign
was
managed
by
a
lot
of
help.
We
had
council
staff,
mayor
staff
and
the
civic
engagement
team
from
ims
all
involved,
and
we
worked
to
spread
awareness
through
various
means
to
reach
the
voters
from
the
five
districts
participating
last
year.
M
The
awareness
campaign
included
the
goal
to
prepare
voters
for
their
ballot,
understand
how
rcv
works
and
to
provide
supportive
materials
and
trainings
to
candidates.
The
recorder's
office
also
disclosed
the
summary
of
our
costs,
including
expenditures
on
radio
ads,
tabling
events,
billboards
and
printed
materials
in
our
memo.
N
N
N
You
can
do
it
with
a
primary
or
without
last
year
the
city
chose
to
go
without
the
city
could
use
ranked
choice
voting
again
the
2023
municipal
election,
which
is
even
numbered
council
districts,
as
well
as
the
mayoral
race,
the
recorder's
office,
provided
two
memos
for
the
council.
The
first
is
feedback
on
the
experience
of
the
first
ranked
choice
voting
election.
N
C
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
the
council
to
know
that
sherry
swenson
is
also
online
for
any
questions
at
this
time,
but
I'm
going
to
turn
the
time
over
back
over
to
cindy
liu.
M
Thank
you
thanks
ben.
I
appreciate
the
summary
I'll
just
continue
on
where
I
am.
I
want
to
introduce
olivia
hodge
she's,
our
new
elections,
management
coordinator
and
she's,
prepared
the
information
about
the
analyses
and
also
the
campaign
efforts,
so
without
anything
further
she'll
go
ahead
to
the
next
slide
and
we'll
go
through
these
analyses.
We
do
recognize
your
time
and,
of
course,
can
speed
it
up
or
omit
information,
as
directed.
O
All
right,
it's
nice
to
be
in
front
of
you
guys
in
2021,
the
percentage
of
votes
cast
in
salt
lake
city
was
34.77
that
is
lower
than
voter
turnout
in
2019,
which
was
50.36
but
to
add
context.
The
difference
between
these
two
years
is
not
abnormal,
because
voter
turnout
was
higher
in
mayoral
years,
which
can
attribute
to
the
data
provided
when
comparing
to
2019.
O
All
right,
salt
lake
city
surveyed
the
19
candidates
of
the
2021
election
and
received
12
responses
from
the
results
it
can
be
concluded
that
several
candidates
that
participated
in
the
survey
share.
A
preference
to
hold
a
primary
election
candidates
felt
that
they
spent
around
40
percent
of
time.
Explaining
rcp
to
voters
and
candidates
confirmed
that
they
viewed
city-sponsored,
ads
or
materials
throughout
the
city
and
did
not
provide
additional
mediums
or
outlets
to
modify
the
campaign
and
50
of
the
participants
in
the
survey
responded.
O
The
rcb
method
influenced
their
determination
to
declare
canada's
candidacy,
some
of
the
reasons
that
they
stated.
Why
was
they
wanted
to
see
rcb
in
action?
They
had
the
encouragement
to
run
without
a
primary
election
and
they,
the
financial
investment,
was
less
critical
to
a
potential
win.
As
a
result
of
the
method
change.
Some
candidates
shared
the
following
observations.
They
felt
like
there
was
increased
civility
between
candidates.
O
O
In
2021
23
cities
in
utah
chose
to
opt
in
to
rcv,
however,
is
something
that
is
used
all
over.
The
united
states
outside
of
utah
27
jurisdictions,
use
rcv
for
for
this
election
year,
including
the
prior
election
year.
Participation
in
utah
50
jurisdictions
have
used
or
will
be
using
the
rcv
method.
As
of
july
2022,
three
of
the
27
jurisdictions
hold
runoff
races,
also
termed
primary
races.
Primary
elections,
two
of
the
three
made
in
new
york
city
hold
partisan
elections
using
the
rcv
method.
O
O
O
C
Q
O
Okay
and
then
we're
going
to
move
over
to
talking
about
weber
state's
analysis,
so
weber,
state
social
issues,
team
in
cooperation
with
the
walker
institute
and
lieutenant
governor's
office,
completed
completed
a
study
on
the
voter's
perception
of
the
two
voting
methods
that
are
used
in
the
state
of
utah,
as
well
as
a
survey
on
2021
utah
political
candidates.
Perception
of
the
ranked
choice
voting
system
in
the
study,
700
voters
were
surveyed
of
the
700
surveyed.
350
participated
in
ranked
choice.
O
Voting
and
350
participated
in
the
winner
takes
all
known,
as
the
traditional
voting
method
listed
on
this
slide
are
the
results
of
the
survey
from
the
350
participants
of
the
ranked
choice
voting
method.
It
can
be
noted
that
18.6
found
rcv
to
be
an
easy
process.
10.3
percent
found
that
this
process
was
confusing.
O
9.1
percent
felt
like
that
there
was
increased
voter
voice
with
the
rcv
method
and
twenty
point.
Five
percent
liked
having
more
options
on
the
ballot
to
choose
from
and
more
than
eleven
percent
of
respondents
like
that
had
meaningful
voice
in
their
choice
of
their
elected
leaders.
Based
off
of
these
findings,
it
can
be
concluded
that
the
rcb
voting
system,
positive
positively
influences
voters
perception
and
on
voice
and
representation.
O
The
site
provides
the
results
of
the
survey
from
the
350
individuals
who
participated
in
the
winner
takes
all
method.
It
can
be
noted
that
35.4
percent
found
that
the
winner
take
all
method
was
easy,
4.6
liked
having
to
vote
for
one
single
candidate,
6
percent
like
the
familiar
process
and
3.7
percent,
felt
underrepresented
in
this
method.
O
O
In
the
walker
institute
study
of
the
candidates
perception
of
running
in
an
rcp
race
in
the
2020
election
out
of
the
81
candidates,
who
responded
to
the
questionnaire
only
70
candidates
provided
complete
data.
93
of
the
candidates
indicated
that
they
were
familiar
with
how
rank
choice.
Voting
worked.
32.4
percent
felt
that
rcv
confused
voters,
32.4
percent,
liked
that
rcv
gave
voters
more
of
a
say.
They
felt
like
voters
had
more
of
a
say
in
their
election
and
11
percent
of
candidates
felt
that
rcb
gave
greater
civility
during
the
campaign.
O
O
Sully
county
estimated,
the
cost
of
the
processing
for
an
rcv
election
method
for
salt
lake
city,
as
listed
specifically
on
the
slide
with
the
breakdown
right
there.
The
resulting
cost
of
the
rcv
method,
one
including
licensing
fees
shared
by
the
nine
participating
cities
in
the
in
the
county.
I
O
M
So
I
just
want
to
make
note
of
that
difference
in
amount
the
county
has
visited
with
us
about
the
cost
and
the
potential
inflation
rates
that
are
also
on
with
the
market,
but
the
county
did
not
charge
us
121
000.
It
is
what
the
end
cost
was.
So
the
county
disclosed
that
to
us,
knowing
that
we
were
going
to
only
pay
what
had
been
estimated
with
a
licensing
fee,
so
it
will
be
more.
Should
the
council
determine
to
go
to
rcv
than
87
000.
C
M
So
if,
if
you
would
like
cherry
to
address
that
question,
she
could
address
if
it
would,
if
the
cost
may
be
going
down
right.
I
Yeah,
so
the
this
would
just
automatically
increase
based
on
the
cost
of
good
services.
Employees
and
they'll
need
to
replace
equipment
things
like
that,
but
our.
H
H
C
Jerry
are
you
available
hi.
Q
Yes,
first
of
all,
I
have
to
tell
you
that
I
will
not
be
in
office
next
year.
The
contract
options
that
are
provided
are
provided
on
by
the
county
clerk.
I
started
offering
that
contract
in
1995
to
municipalities,
and
I
can't
speak
for
whoever
will
be
in
office
next
year.
I
don't
know
who
that
person
will
be
so
as
far
as
me
giving
an
estimate
of
costs.
I
cannot
do
that.
I'm
sorry.
Q
What
I
had
mentioned
is
when
I
was
speaking
with
cindy
lou
as
we
grossly
underestimated
the
cost
involved
with
rank
choice.
Voting
we
didn't
realize
it
was
as
complex
as
it
is.
We
had
underestimated
the
cost
of
the
paper,
the
the
labor
that
went
into
creating
ranked
choice
ballots.
Q
Q
One
of
the
benefits
of
ranked
choice
voting
was
the
savings
in
a
primary
by
not
having
a
primary.
So,
instead
of
having
a
primary,
there
was
a
cost
savings
by
eliminating
a
primary
and
then
having
all
of
the
candidates
who
filed
just
go
to
the
general
election.
That
was
the
major
cost
savings
and
doing
ranked
choice
voting.
Q
So
one
of
the
other
things
are
vendor
dominion,
because
there
was
a
cost
associated
with
using
the
software
for
rcv.
We
didn't
know
how
many
cities
were
going
to
participate
in
ranked
choice
voting.
They
gave
a
price
break
on
the
use
of
the
software
for
our
cv
and
gave
us
a
huge
cost
savings
because
it
was
the
first
time
I
don't
know
if
that
would
be
applied
again
so
anyway,
I'm
sorry
at
this
point
in
time.
Q
I
can't
tell
you
with
any
factual
information
what
an
estimate
would
be
or
what
the
contract
services
might
be.
For
my
success-
or
I
I
just
don't
know.
H
I
I
I
guess
this
is
not
about
the
you
know
the
questions
about
what
the
election,
but
I
wanted
to
acknowledge
the
decades
of
service
from
from
sherry
swenson
to
this
county
and
to
the
state,
because
the
whole
state
has
looked
into
salt
lake
county
as
the
as
a
leading
place
for
running
fair
and
clean
elections
and
accessible
elections,
and
you
know
taking
voter
registrations
to
every
store
and
putting
them
in
counters
and
and
I'm
pushing
for
for
this
transparency.
H
So
people
can
get
registered
to
vote
and
make
making
it
accessible.
And
it's
it's.
It's
been
a
privilege
to
get
to
know
you
and
to
have
been
around
you
and
the
county
and
in
my
life-
and
I
I'm
honored
to
know
you
and
to
have
witnessed
your
work.
So
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
being
there
and
yes,
thank
you.
Q
Q
You
know
where
it
was
a
50
turnout,
I
believe
in
2017
and
that
doesn't
sound
great.
But
I
started
looking
back
at
the
turnout
before
we
went
to
a
vote
by
mail
system
and
it
was
in
the
20
percent
when
people
had
to
go
to
traditional
polling
places
and
show
up
in
person
to
vote,
and
so
keeping
that
in
mind.
I
think
it
is
so
important
to
preserve
the
vote
by
mail
system,
and
that
is
so
valuable
and
it
was.
It
was
a
long
time
coming.
Q
First,
I
could
offer
a
permanent
vote
by
mail
option
and
that
was
in
the
state
law,
and
we
grew
that
until
by
2012
we
had
about
a
fourth
of
our
registered
voters
in
salt
lake
county
on
permanent
absentee,
and
then
the
law
was
changed.
Because,
honestly,
the
legislators
recognized
that
people
who
were
voting
with
that
permanent
absentee
program
were
turning
out
in
bitter
numbers
and
then
they
passed
the
law
to
allow
us
to
conduct
her
elections
by
mail.
Q
So
with
that,
we
saw
the
implementation
of
our
elections
being
conducted
entirely
by
mel,
and
it's
so
important
to
preserve
that,
because
the
numbers
in
turn
out
with
the
convenience
of
people
being
able
to
vote
by
mail,
I
just
don't
want
to
see
that
go
backwards.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
other
questions.
I
can.
I
just
can't
answer
about
what
the
cost
will
be.
C
M
Just
there's
questions
we
just.
O
M
B
I
just
had
a
question
then,
so
I
one
of
the
things
I
remember
why
we
chose
to
move
to
rank
chose
voting
was
to
increase
the
turnout
of
water,
so
that
people
would
be
more
interested
in
in
registering
and
voting
in
the
election.
But
I
don't
feel
like
it
was
significant,
like
the
change
and
maybe
was
less
than
I
know
it
was
a
non-mayoral
election
in
general.
B
Maybe
it's
a
question
for
for
sherry,
maybe
for
you
in
general,
as
you
talk
to
candidates,
as
you
talk
to
voters
in
general,
do
you
feel
like
it
was
effective?
Do
you
feel
like
people
were,
are
excited
about
it
to
continue
doing
this
or
have
they
mentioned
hey?
Maybe
we
need
to
go
back,
because
this
was
not
what
we
expected
or
was
too
hard
to
understand
or
whatever
it
is.
H
H
F
I
had
thoughts
and
then
cindy
lou
just
threw
that
thought
about
voter
participation
in
there,
and
so
I
was
thinking
about
that.
But
when
we
part
of
this
briefing
is
about
the
pilot
program,
do
we
get
any
money
from
the
state?
Did
we
get
money
from
the
state
last
time
as
part
of
the
pilot
program,
to
help
with
the
costs
of
doing
rcv.
M
Thanks
for
that
question
as
well
councilmember
fowler,
it
was
our
understanding
that
funds
would
be
discussed
and
addressed
following
the
determination
of
participation
in
ranked
choice.
Voting
the
lg's
office
had
to
evaluate
based
on
how
many
municipalities
were
going
to
be
involved
as
far
as
the
distribution
of
funding
that
they
had
for
the
overall
project
as
a
result
of
the
23
cities
choosing
to
opt
in
instead
of
providing
funding,
they
provided
resources
and
that's
right.
Those
resources.
M
F
I
I
know
that
you
did.
I
do
now
remember
that
we
were
expecting
state
money
and
it
turned
out
to
be
funny
state
money.
So
is
there
any
other,
because
the
the
way
that
this
briefing
is
titled
is
the
pilot
program
and
I'm
assuming
that
it's
still
with
the
pilot
programming
type
of
idea.
F
So
is
it
the
same
type
of
funding?
Is
there
funding
available
for
resources,
or
are
we
looking
at
those
numbers,
just
as
they
are
giving
given
to
us
today.
M
So
I
I
would
need
to
check
with
the
lg's
office
about
the
balance
remaining
in
the
pilot
project
funding
on
behalf
of
the
state,
the
contract
that
they
went
with
for
the
communications
and
the
items
that
they
provided
to
us,
I
believe,
was
very
close
to
their
balance
as
of
last
year.
So
we
can
look
into
that
and
get
back
to
you
on
a
balance
that
the
state
has
and
any
options
that
they
may
provide
to
those
who
participate.
M
I
believe
that
we
carried
a
significant
load
of
communication
and
awareness
through
the
county
and
all
throughout
the
city,
and
I
don't
know
that
we
would
use
in
fact,
we've
out,
we've
reviewed
all
of
our
services
and
based
on
conversations
with
lauren
and
olivia.
We
believe
that
awareness
could
be
under
30
000
this
year
or
next
year.
Should
the
decision
be
made,
the
awareness
campaign
cost
would
decrease.
F
Perfect
and
then
one
last
thing,
if
I
may
chairman,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
sherry,
just
real
quick
thank
you
is
she
cheri?
You
have
been
a
champion
for
voter
rights,
honestly
throughout
salt
lake
city
utah
and
in
a
lot
of
places.
The
nation
sherry
joined
me
in
an
nlc
meeting
talking
about
boats
by
mill
and
how
important
they
were
and
how
much
she
has
been
doing
for
the
last
two
decades.
So
thank
you.
Sherry.
P
Thank
you
just
have
a
few
comments.
First
of
all,
I'm
disappointed
that
the
turnout
wasn't
higher
than
like.
We
expected
it
might
be.
I'm
not
100
convinced
that
that
means
rain
choice.
Voting,
I'm
not
I'm
not
even
at
all,
convinced
that
that
means
ranked
choice.
Voting
was
a
failure
was
not
worth
doing.
P
I
think
there's
other
considerations.
We
need
to
to
to
do
and
think
about
to
decide
if
we're
going
to
do
it
again,
but
two
things
I'll
say
is
that
as
a
candidate,
the
thing
that
was
the
most
difficult
is
how
long
it
took
us
to
decide-
and
I
know
that
that
was
part
partly
because
of
the
state
legislative
session
and
other
things
like
that.
But
I
hope
we
can
make
the
decision
much
sooner
so
that
candidates
know
what
to
expect
before
they
start
their
races,
not
like
in
the
middle
of
them.
P
For
some
of
us,
so
one
to
the
percentage-wise
121
000
is
a
lot
more
than
86,
but
I
think
that's
still
a
pretty
small
number
compared
to
other
items
in
our
city
budget
and
compared
to
if
we
truly
believe
that
this
is
a
better
way
to
to
select
our
politicians
and
our
our
our
leaders,
then
I
don't
think
that's
an
unreasonable
amount
of
money
to
spend.
So
I
don't
think
we
should
get
hung
up
on
the
cost
of
of
the
ballot
and
the
race.
P
That's
the
outcomes
and
again
I'm
disappointed
that
there
wasn't
greater
participation,
but
I
think
there's
other
things
we
need
to
think
about,
and
so
as
we
do
that
those
are
my
two
commentses.
I
don't
want
to
only
think
about
money.
I
don't
want
to
only
think
about
the
voter
turnout,
but
I
also
want
to
think
about
it
and
decide
sooner
rather
than
later.
Thank.
R
Is
there
hello,
also
great
job
on
implementing
this
to
you
and
to
sherry?
Is
there
any
so
the
data
that
we
have
is
is
statewide.
Is
there
any
way
to
break
that
down
like
by
county
or
by
city,
or
is
it
just.
R
The
earlier
you
talked
about
perceptions
or
utah's
experiences.
Is
there
any
way
to
get
that
more
local.
O
R
Sure-
and
then
I
mean
the
only
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
say
is
you
know
as
a
candidate
that
knocked
a
lot
of
doors
and
talked
to
a
lot
of
people
about
rain
choice
voting
last
year
that
anecdotally,
the
responses
that
I
got
were
overwhelmingly
positive.
That
people
were
really
excited
about
it.
Well,
I
would
say
the
greatest
number
of
people,
probably
hadn't
heard
of
it
when
I
talked
to
them
about
it.
They
liked
it.
R
The
second
biggest
number
of
people
had
already
heard
about
it
were
really
excited
about
it
and
were
a
little
disappointed.
I
guess
that
that
they
only
got
to.
R
There
was
only
one
race
where
they
got
to
do
this
in
in
my
part
of
the
city
and
that
it
wasn't
that
it
was
just
for
city
elections
not
for
county
or
any
any
other
jurisdictions,
and
I
only
had
like
a
very
small
percentage
of
people
say
that
they
didn't
like
it
or
that
they
felt
like
it
was
less
secure,
or
something
like
that,
I
would
say
like
less
than
10.,
so
out
of
hundreds.
P
R
E
Do
we
have
any
data
comparing
the
amount
of
money
if
this
impacted
the
amount
of
money
a
candidate
had
to
raise?
While
I
loved
this
and
had
a
really
great
experience,
I
would
hate
for
us
to
put
additional
barriers
to
people
from
marginalized
communities
seeking
office
or
those
you
know.
Do
we
have
any
data
around
that
particular.
M
Issue,
I
think
we
could
review
our
data
and
provide
just
an
analysis
of
the
total
expenditure
or
the
total
contributions
through
the
rcv.
I
I
would,
I
wouldn't
feel
comfortable
saying
like
I
know
what
the
candidates
did
for
their
raising,
but
I
can
look
at
the
numbers
and
provide
an
analysis
yeah
if,
if.
H
Yeah-
and
I
think
that
the
point
is
more
about-
maybe
other
parts
of
the
statue-
the
city
statue
related
to
to
campaign
limits,
and
not
necessarily
about
rcb,
because
to
make
an
analysis
that
is
comprehensive,
you
probably
need
multiple
points
of
understanding.
This
was
the
first
time
they
would
know.
The
primary
was
also
run
so
taking
that
in
consideration.
H
E
M
C
So,
first
of
all,
I'm
going
to
echo
what
countaman,
fowler
and
councilman
report
you
said
sherry.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
service
on
elections
and
all
your
work
over
the
years
and
your
leadership
in
the
position.
I
appreciate
that
very
much
and
good
luck
in
the
future
ben
cindy,
lou
olivia.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation.
O
C
N
N
If
all
the
items
are
approved
as
proposed,
it
would
spend
almost
750
000
from
fund
balance.
This
would
leave
fund
balance
with
16
million
dollars
above
the
13
minimum
target,
so
the
minimum
target
is
13.
Fund
balance
is
currently
about
16.8
percent
and
the
difference
between
the
two
is
16
million
dollars.
N
Okay,
the
first
item,
a
one
is
a
request
for
twenty
thousand
dollars,
and
this
is
a
donation
from
the
salt
lake
education
foundation
for
the
bridge
to
bachmann
elementary
project.
That
project
is
already
underway.
It
is
supposed
to
be
completed.
This
fall.
You
may
recall,
approving
over
1
million
dollars
for
the
bridge
and
an
adjacent
open
space.
N
N
The
next
item
is
a2,
a
request
for
120
000
from
general
fund
balance
to
the
fleet
fund.
This
is
to
purchase
three
vehicles
for
three
new
employees
in
the
community
and
neighborhoods
department.
The
three
new
employees
were
previously
approved
in
the
annual
budget.
It
includes
two
building
inspectors
and
one
civil
enforcement
officer.
N
H
N
N
J
So
I'm
going
to
have
to
get
back
with
you
on
that
council
member
fowler.
I
don't
know
exactly.
I
know
that
we
were
adding
positions
and
then
you
were
adding
positions,
and
I
don't
know
if
it
was
the
combination
and
just
adding
only
personal
services
and
not
vehicles,
but
I
will
get
back
with
you
on
that.
F
C
N
N
The
funding
would
be
used
partly
to
pay
a
consultant
for
the
education
efforts.
They
would
be
providing
factual
information
to
residents,
and
this
would
also
include
delivering
a
voter
information,
pamphlet,
sometimes
abbreviated,
to
a
vip.
You
may
recall
the
last
geo
bond
in
2018,
the
streets,
reconstruction
bond,
the
vip
went
to
all
households
city-wide.
N
A
similar
plan
is
expected
this
time
and
it
will
be
bilingual.
Other
efforts
are
expected
to
be
bilingual
as
well.
English
and
spanish.
This
would
be
a
project
web
page
presentations
to
community
councils
and
business
groups,
videos
and
social
media
posts
and
other
ads
and
signage
to
be
distributed
around
the
city,
including
ad
events.
N
One
note
considering
that
the
council's
voting
on
the
geo
bond
tonight
and
the
next
council
meeting
isn't
until
three
weeks
later,
you
could
consider
closing
the
public
hearing
tonight
and
voting
on
this
one
item
so
that
the
funding
would
be
available.
The
next
three
weeks
to
educate
the
public.
I
will
be
very.
E
I
can
I
ask
for
clarification,
since
this
is
my
his
baby's
first
geo
bond,
we're
not
allowed
to
educate,
as
elected
officials,
correct
we're
not
allowed
to
engage
in
any
persuasion.
J
J
Those
rules
require
that
the
city
not
use
any
city
funds
and
that
city
employees
not
advocate
or
advocate
against
a
bond
proposal.
However,
elected
officials
are
not
subject
to
that
rule,
so
elected
elected
officials
may
advocate
for
or
against
a
bond
proposal,
but
not
on
city,
equipment
or
city
time,
because
there's
a
different
law
that
prohibits
political
activity
on
city,
equipment
and
city
time.
E
N
C
And
on
this
I
think
we're
all
in
favor
of
of
voting
for
this.
You
know
in
the
public
hearing
side
on
the
on
the
formal
side,
on
the
wording
of
the
general
obligation
on
a4
tonight.
C
It
was
just
kind
of
like
something
like
a
straw
poll
here
on
closing
the
public
hearing
on
the
go
bond,
but
approving
funding
for
the
outreach
program
later
on,
and
I
think
I'm
seeing
some
head
nods.
Yes,
okay,
just.
I
Can
I
add
something
just
so:
there's
not
any
confusion
with
the
council,
the
elected
officials
advocating
when
they
talk
when
katie
talked
about
not
having
any
equipment
or
time.
That's
where
the
staff
people
come
in,
so
you
can
post
something
on
your
own
facebook
or
your
own
instagram
or
whatever.
I
R
R
G
H
C
N
Good
ben
that
takes
us
to
a5
a
request
for
3.1
million
dollars
in
transportation
impact
fees
for
nine
street
reconstruction
projects.
The
projects
are
listed
in
a
table
in
the
staff
report.
I
won't
read
through
them
all
the
the
additional
funding
is
to
cover
cost
increases
for
each
of
the
projects.
Some
of
them
will
still
have
funding
gaps,
so
you
may
see
these
return
in
a
future
budget
opening
requesting
additional
funding.
N
N
N
N
I
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
definition
that
has
a
length.
I
think
this
one
is
just
a
block.
Okay,
although
we
do
have
big
blocks.
I.
N
I
do
want
to
point
out
in
section
d:
this
is
housekeeping
items.
There
are
a
few
contributions
for
transportation
projects
from
udot
and
uta.
N
This
is
a
follow-up
item
from
the
annual
budget.
It's
1.2
million
dollars
for
building
security,
going
from
the
cip
fund
to
the
general
fund
and
the
annual
budget
did
include
the
expenditure
piece,
but
it
inadvertently
didn't
include
the
transfer
from
cip
to
the
general
fund
and
that's
the
revenue
piece.
So
it's
the
other
side
of
the
ledger,
and
this
is
the
other
item
that
the
council
may
want
to
consider
closing
the
public
hearing
and
adopting
tonight
the
public
services
department.
C
C
I
would
like
to
take
a
straw
poll
on
this
one
and
add
this
just
kind
of
take
ben's
recommendation
when
we
close
this,
but
we
do
approve
this
line.
Item
number
d2
for
the
building
security.
So
if
I
get
a
do
a
straw
poll
on
that
a
thumbs
up
for
people
who
agree
on
that,
so
thank
you
very
much.
I
have
seven.
Thank
you
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
Ben.
N
N
N
Item
i2,
this
is
also
a
follow-up,
but
from
cip,
the
cip
budget
that
was
approved
with
the
annual
budget.
The
council
is
adding
additional
funding
to
it,
based
on
your
decisions
on
which
projects
to
fund,
so
there
would
be
eighty
one
thousand
dollars
from
general
fund
balance
and
almost
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
parks
impact
fees
added
to
cip,
and
this
is
in
addition
to
what
the
annual
budget
had
and
it's
for
three
projects
they're
listed
in
the
staff
report.
N
The
last
item-
i3,
we
just
got
an
update.
Yesterday,
the
homeless,
shelter
cities
mitigation
grant.
This
is
a
state
grant
and
we
just
got
an
update
that
the
administration
has
received
final
grant
award
notification
from
the
state.
The
city
is
receiving
just
under
2.75
million
dollars.
From
this
grant,
it
would
be
used
for
13
new
positions.
N
H
And
to
remember
this
is
the
this
is
what
counts
memorable
demoris
asked
last
week
about
from
the
law
from
state
funding
for
resources
around
hrcs
right
correct
to
try
to
catch
us
up
with
funding
for
those
okay.
Thank
you.
N
And
the
2.75
million
dollars
that
the
city
is
receiving
this
year.
We
can't
assume
we'll
get
it
each
year
because
it's
subject
to
appropriation
by
the
legislature,
but
the
administration
has
said
they
plan
to
apply,
and
most
of
that
2.75
million
is
ongoing
costs.
I
think
it's
2.2
2.3
million,
so
those
ongoing
costs
for
employees
would
be
part
of
the
application
next
year.
B
In
two
in
two
in
one
anyway,
okay,
so
we're
gonna,
increase
our
workforce
for
that
it'll
be
distributed
into
the
two
hrcs
that
exist
in
salt
lake
city
right
now,
the
one
in
ballpark,
the
one
downtown
and
my
and
then
hopefully
next
year,
we'll
get
it
again.
But
I
think
that
hopefully,
next
year,
we'll
get
it
again
means
that
we
need
to
have
really
good
data
and
really
good
results.
B
When
we
put
these
13
officers
on
the
street
so
that
we
can
show
those
that
have
funded
us,
what
they
have
accomplished
with
the
money
that
they
provided
for
us.
So
this
is
a
formal
request
that
we
can
have
really
good
data,
often
or
often,
and
as
good
as
it
can
get
so
that
we,
when
we
as
council
members,
go
and
talk
to
the
legislators
up
there
that
are
looking
at
us
that
have
heard
that
we
have
needs
and
that
we
need
their
support,
that
we
can
show
something
for
it.
B
Otherwise,
it's
really
uncomfortable
to
go.
Ask
for
money
when
the
results
are
mediocre.
We
need
to
be
really
vigilant
on
how
we
use
that
money,
because
we
need
the
money.
The
following
year
to
keep
paying
for
these
officers.
Otherwise,
once
again
we
have
this
one-time
money,
we
say
yes,
but
then
we
have
to
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
keep
paying
for
them
and
that's
just
so
uncomfortable
for
me.
Thank
you.
I
And
and
to
clarify,
you
may
right
now:
that's
what
you're
expressing
that!
That's
where
you
are
right
now,
you
could
hear
things
in
that
public
hearing
that
would
cause
you
not
not
to
vote
that
way.
So
it's
just
a
matter
of
usually
you'd
wait
a
week
before
you
voted
now
they're
asking
you
to
do
it
now,
thanks.
C
My
only
question
is
really
kind
of
not
so
much
on
the
budget
amendment
one
it's
just
on
the
budget
itself:
sales
tax
numbers
we
get
those
you
know
we're
two
year,
two
months
lag
time
and
we're
probably
getting
may
time
frame,
I'm
just
curious
when
we
get
the
next
update.
It'd
be
nice,
just
to
have
a
note
that
says:
hey
how
our
sales
tax
did
for
may
or
whatever
april
may,
whatever
the
month
is
compared
to
what
the
the
actual
budget
was
for
last
year,
because
I
know
that
goes
to
our
fund
balance.
J
Yes,
so
we
should
receive
junes
at
the
end
of
this
month,
the
end
of
august,
and
so
we
can
come
back
and
do
an
update
with
you
in
september.
If
you'd
like
on
how
sales
tax
came.
C
C
J
Correct.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
council
members
to
review
guidelines
for
the
outdoor
business
activity
grant
program,
as
well
as
discuss
the
policy
issues
that
were
raised
in
the
staff
report
and,
if
desire
desired,
that
the
council
could
make
adjustments
to
the
resolution
to
increase
transparency
in
this
and
other
city
grant
programs.
J
There
are
several
policy
questions
listed
on
the
staff
report
on
page
three,
including
whether
the
council
wishes
to
consider
a
dollar
value
or
threshold
which
would
trigger
the
council
to
request
additional
reporting
mechanisms
and
then
just
one
more
item,
and
then
I
will
turn
the
time
over
to
roberta
and
peter
for
their
presentation.
But
it's
council
staff's
understanding
that
the
council
was
waiting
to
approve
the
funding
for
this
grant
program
until
after
the
program
guidelines
were
transmitted.
J
So
now
that
the
the
guidelines
have
been
transmitted,
the
council
may
wish
to
consider
adding
the
funding
approval
to
budget
amendment.
Excuse
me
budget
amendment
number
one
as
a
council
added
item.
E
Thanks
so
much
sylvia
council
members
good
to
be
with
you
tonight,
as
sylvia
mentioned,
we're
talking
to
you
about
the
outdoor
dining
grants
program.
This
was
just
a
quick
recap.
It
was
something
that
was
proposed
in
the
last
fiscal
year
and
the
funding
was
allocated
in
budget
amendment
4
of
fy
20
20
to
22,
but
as
sylvia
mentioned,
that
was
contingent
upon
us
presenting
the
guidelines
to
the
council
members,
which
we
are
doing
with
you
this
evening.
E
This
program
is
intended
to
support
the
businesses
to
expand
their
presence
and
their
footprint
with
outdoor
options,
peter
will
be
shortly
be
will
shortly
be
presenting
the
program
to
you,
but
I
think
there's
a
question
here
about
you
know
if
this
program
is
still
relevant
or
needed,
and
we
would
say
the
answer
is
yes,
this
program
targets,
brick
and
mortar
businesses
in
the
food
and
beverage
beverage
industry
and,
according
to
a
mckenzie
study,
they're,
not
predicted
to
fully
recover
to
pre-pre-pandemic
levels
until
2024
2025..
E
Additionally,
most
of
the
federal
and
state
programs
have
since
exhausted
all
of
their
recovery
funds,
including,
is
severely
if
you
recall,
under
under
deployed
restaurant
revitalization
program.
That
came
out
last
year
still
a
lot
of
outstanding
money
that
never
went
out
the
door
for
that
program.
So
we
do.
We
do
believe
that
this
program
is
very
still
very
relevant
and
needed,
and
these
this
program
is
supporting
the
industries,
the
food
and
beverage
industry
in
salt
lake
city,
which
are
crucial
to
our
quality
of
life
and
the
urban
core
experience.
S
So,
as
roberta
mentioned,
the
purpose
of
this
grant
program
is
to
respond
to
impacts
of
covet
19
on
the
restaurant
bar
and
retail
industry
here
in
salt
lake
city,
primarily
by
helping
them
expand
outdoor
patios
and
support
what
we
call
open
streets,
events
or
street
closures
to
further
help
them
expand
their
premise
and
thus
serving
more
customers.
S
S
The
mayor's
office
of
equity
and
inclusion
is
also
a
key
in
developing
these
guidelines
and
their
approval.
Salt
lake
area
restaurant
association
was
consulted
and
provided
feedback
on
this
program
as
well.
The
salt
lake
chamber
is
primarily
the
downtown
alliance
in
coordination
and
working
with
them
on
open
streets
events
and
also
other
outdoor
dining
opportunities
for
businesses.
Downtown
the
business
advisory
board
also
reviewed
this,
and
then
we
worked
with
local
businesses,
local
restaurants,
as
well
in
developing
out
this
program
next
slide.
S
Please
so
for
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion.
Again,
we
consulted
the
mayor's
office
of
equity
and
inclusion.
They
were
key
in
helping
us
develop
these
guidelines.
S
We've
dedicated
20
of
the
funds
to
businesses
located
on
the
west
side
of
I-15,
making
sure
that
we
are,
you
know,
helping
businesses
on
that
side
of
the
city,
so
we've
proposed
to
educate
20
of
those
funds
there
we'll
be
providing
multilingual
online
and
paper
applications
for
this
program.
We've
made
a
very
streamlined
application
to
help,
make
it
accessible
to
everyone,
we'll
be
providing
technical
assistance
as
well.
C
Next
slide,
please
ask
your
question
right
here:
absolutely
when
we
say
20
of
on
the
the
west
side
and
maybe
you're
going
to
get
there
in
the
future
next
few
slides,
but
the
number
of
applications
we're
expecting
her
and
we've
had.
Did
we
see
a
disproportionate
level
on
the
west
side
that
weren't
funded
or
did
get
funded,
or
did
we
fund
enough
on
the
west
side
and
was
20
not
enough
or
should
we
I
mean?
How
did
that
work.
S
S
Most
of
our
partners
felt
that
was
an
appropriate
way
to
address
it,
to
make
sure
that
we
are
providing
access,
especially
to
businesses
located
on
a
part
of
our
city
that
are
typically
of
lower
income,
more
more
culturally
diverse
and
have
maybe
historically
have
had
less
access
to
these
programs
aside
from
east
of
I-15.
So
that
was
our
justification.
S
C
I'm
just
just
making
sure
that
we
we
fund
enough
for
the
programs
on
the
on
the
west
side
that
if
there's
too
many
applications,
but
we
we
need
to
fund
as
many
as
we
can.
I
guess
yeah.
Thank
you.
S
Whatever
it's
dedicated
so
to
make
sure
that
at
least
that
20
percent
is
going
on
the
west
side,
obviously
we
hope
to
find.
P
S
S
I
Is
the
can
you
tell
us
more
about
where
the
number
came
from
like?
Is
the
administration
think
thinking?
Is
it
their
goal
to
have
this
be
a
real
active
outreach
and
does
it
constitute,
I
mean
like
why?
Wouldn't
it
be
45
percent
or
something
like
that?
Can
you
share
with
us
how
aggressive
the
20
percent
is
and
and
whether
you
considered
more
or
less
than
that.
E
It's
actually
so
we
we
did
an
analysis
after
the
emergency
loan
program
about
where
the
applications
were
coming
from,
and
we
did
find
that
there
were
a
lot
fewer
coming
from
that
from
west
of
I-15,
and
so
we
kind
of
we
looked
at.
We
asked
business
licensing
to
look
at
the
the
number
of
business
licenses
from
each
side
and
20
is
actually
about
in
line
with
the
overall
about
80
percent
of
our
salt
lake
city.
S
So
there'll
be
two
types
of
grant
amounts
that
they
can
apply
for.
First
is
up
to
five
thousand
dollars
for
outdoor
retail,
outdoor,
dining
and
retail,
and
then
up
to
ten
thousand
dollars
for
open
streets
events
or
street
closures
and
doing
much
larger
events.
S
The
use
of
funds
are
outdoor
retail
furniture,
fixtures
and
equipment.
I
apologize
there's
a
typo
here
on
the
on
this
presentation,
but
also
city
fees
associated
with
outdoor
dining
or
open
streets
events
and
then
again
any
any
costs
associated
with
street
closures.
For
for
for
those
open
streets
events
eligible
eligibility
is
you
need
to
be
located
in
salt
lake
city?
Obviously
within
city
limits?
You
need
a
current
salt
lake
city
business
license.
It
does
need
to
be
a
fixed
location,
so
we're
talking
brick
and
mortar
restaurants
bars.
Retail.
S
No
food
trucks
is
something
that
we've
been
asked,
but
this
is
meant
to
help
those
brick
and
mortar
businesses
who
you
know
need
that
expanded
patio
space,
and
then
we
are
actually
we'll
be
reimbursing
businesses
as
of
april
2021,
so
any
costs
accrued
for
outdoor
dining
or
open
streets.
As
of
april
2021,
we'll
allow
to
fund.
H
It's
just
a
quick
question
on
on
the
eligibility
of
the
program,
and
you
know
and
related
to
the
size
of
the
company.
You
know
we
may
be
reimbursing
bigger
companies
that
might
have
the
capacity
to
maybe
absorb
some
of
these
funds,
but
maybe
some
of
the
smaller
companies
might
need.
You
might
need
these
funds
more.
So
is
there
anything
that?
Are
we
thinking
about
this
in
that
way
too,
that
you
know
smaller
companies?
Smaller
businesses
might
actually
need
this.
This
funds
more.
S
Yes
and
we've
seen
that,
typically,
you
know
we're
looking
at
single
small
businesses
that
are
usually
taking
advantage
of
outdoor
dining,
it
would
be
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
I
think
we
don't
really.
We
don't
have
a
restriction
in
our
guidelines,
necessarily
that
restricts
larger
businesses
from
applying,
but
it
would
go
into
our
application
and
eligibility.
S
And
then,
lastly,
we
have
our
application
fairly
simple.
We
will
be
providing
an
online
version
as
well
as
a
paper
version
and
in
multiple
languages.
Again
we
have
here
the
city.
We
have
translation
services,
but
also
through
the
irc
in
in
reaching
people
in
multiple
languages
and
then
finally,
our
review
criteria
will
obviously
be
eligibility
any
required
documentation.
As
we
mentioned.
S
This
is
a
reimbursement
grant
program,
so
any
documentation,
that's
required
to
provide
reimbursement,
invoices,
receipts
directly
related
to
outdoor
dining
or
open
streets
events
and
then
obviously,
availability
of
funds
we'll
be
trying
to
get
this
money
out
the
door
as
fast.
We
can
so
as
long
as
funds
available
we'll
be
able
to
fund.
C
I
mean,
I
think,
I'm
fairly
comfortable
with
the
staff
making
the
approval
at
the
this
dollar
amount,
but
it
would
be
nice
that
we
had
some
a
reporting
mechanism,
whether
it's
I'm
not
sure,
if
I'd,
if
you
want
to
have
it
on
a
briefing
or
just
a
written
briefing
of
here's,
how
many
applicants
from
the
different
areas,
here's
the
size,
here's
the
businesses,
here's
the
thresholds,
here's
here's
the
outreach
we
had
and
you
know
it
was
a
hundred
thousand.
C
You
don't
have
to
go
that
far,
but
just
just
I'd
like
to
see
some
type
of
reporting
mechanism,
probably
before
you
close
it
and
maybe
then
once
once
once
the
applications
close
and
then
maybe
a
future
one
would
be
hey.
How
well
did
they
you
know
perform?
How
I
mean
was
it
that
was
a
you
know,
a
fruitful
investment
and
you
know:
does
that
mean
we
need?
We
should
continue
it
in
the
in
the
foreseeable
future.
P
On
the
dates
you
said
that
april
1st
2021,
so
these
are
thing
these
are.
This
is
a
reimbursement
for
expenses
that
were
done
over
a
year
ago.
So
it's
not.
I
guess.
P
It
seems
like
our
program
should
also
help
peop
businesses
that
so
those
businesses
all
already
did
this,
but
there
may
be
some
that
didn't
do
outdoor
dining
because
they
couldn't
afford
it
at
the
time,
and
I
wish
that
we
could
also
help
those.
So
can
you
talk
to
me
a
little
bit
about
why
we're
only
reimbursing
past
expenses,
not
helping
future
expenditures.
S
Yes,
so
we,
when
we
originally
developed
this
program,
it
was
you
know.
Prior
it
was
in
the
prior
year.
We
tried
to
line
up
our
date
of
application
and
reimbursement
to
line
up
with
when
other
federal,
state
and
city
resources
ran
out.
We
also
had
emergency
proclamations
in
place
that
reduced
fees
and
regulations
for
outdoor
dining
and
for
open
streets
events
which
are
now
no
longer
in
place.
S
So
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
those
that
participated
in
outdoor
dining,
once
all
of
the
assistance
had
ended,
that
we
would
able
to
help
them
and
reimburse
them
in
some
way
wait.
I
might
have
misunderstood
it.
These.
S
P
S
I
And-
and
you
it's,
this
is
at
your
discretion,
you
can
choose
to
change
some
of
these
things.
The
administration,
I
think,
usually,
is
flexible
on
on
these
things
and
and
you're.
You
know
you
are
providing
the
funds
for
this
and
determining
that
you
know
who
can
allocate
the
money
and
that
type
of
thing,
I
think
you
probably
could
influence
some
of
those
things.
E
This
this
is
separate,
though,
from
the
other
4
million
that
we
allocated
correct
that
went
2
million
to
economic
development,
2
million.
To
can
right
so
we
we
do
have
essentially
grants
for
expenditures,
whereas
this
would
be
the
other
side
of
the
coin.
For
those
who
bit
the
bullet,
went
ahead,
invested
and
then
maybe
lost
some
structural
support
through
the
city
to
still
be
able
to
make
use
of
those
capital
assets
or,
or
things
like
that
correct.
That's
that's,
essentially
how
this
program
would
complement
that
other
program.
Is
that
correct.
S
Correct
we
did
try
to
align
this
up
with
those
arpa
funds
as
well
to
make
sure
that
we're
moving
together,
not
overlapping.
R
J
T
C
Right
and
it's
in
right
now,
it's
a
reimbursement
side
of
the
house,
vice
a
grant,
pre
pre-expense
right
did
where
we
were
they've
already
spent
the
money.
C
They're
submitting
the
receipt
after
their
applications,
so
they've
already
spent
the
money
on
their
own.
Then
now
they're,
saying
hey,
I'm
going
to
apply
to
get
a
reimbursement,
it's
not
like
hey!
I
have
an
idea.
I
want
to
spend
money.
I
want
to
have
an
application
because
they
have
to
have.
They
have
to
show
us
their
receipts
first
before
they
receive
funding.
Yes,
before
the
tv
assembly
before
they
receive
funding,
they
have
to
show
the
receipts,
but
they
can't
apply
without
having
any
receipts.
T
The
way
the
guidelines
have
been
written
right
now
is
absolutely
right.
The
way
you
have
described
it
council,
member
council,
chair
dugan,
however,
as
mary
beth
described,
because
this
general
fund,
we
could
come
back
to
you
and
amend
our
guidelines
to
include
you,
know
businesses
looking
forward,
so
it's
not
just
reimbursement.
T
P
I
I
think
we
should
allow
businesses
to
apply
for
future
expenses
personally,
like
it
seems
like
we're
trying
to
help
it,
make
it
possible
for
businesses
to
do
outdoor
dining
and
if
we're
only
reimbursing
businesses
that
already
did
it
well.
It
was
already
possible
for
those
businesses
to
do
it,
and
the
businesses
that
didn't
have
the
capital
to
buy
more
tables
and
chairs
did
not
do
that,
and
I
think
we
should.
We
should
open
this
up
to
those
businesses
as
well.
Personally,.
T
H
Will
be
supportive
of
the
idea
of
adding
that
to
the
receipt
you
know
adding
future
expenses
to
some
sort
of
limit,
or
you
know,
but
yes,
I
like
how
it
is
set
up
right
now.
It
makes
sense.
You
know
for
many
many
businesses
to
council
member
peter
ashley,
probably
in
current
debt,
to
make
those
efforts,
and
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
also
open
it
up
for
future
expenses
to
expand
this
opportunity
for
some
other
businesses
there
might
they
might
be
struggling
right
now
to
make
that
decision
that
leap.
B
So
it
just
helped
me
understand,
like
the
the
timeline
of
things,
because
I
I
was
confused
like
during,
like
I
thought
we
had
already
done
this,
and
this
was
a
new
thing
that
you
were
that
you
were
going
to
ask
us.
Hey
we've
done
this.
It
worked,
so
we
need
more
so
that
we
can
continue
doing
it
because
that's
somebody
said
when
the
presentation
was
like:
hey
here's,
two
percent
to
you
that
it
actually
did
work.
B
B
B
And
they
were
waived
so
people
that
applied
for
that
they
had
to
pay
for
the
chair
right,
but
they
didn't
have
to
pay
for
the
lease,
so
they
had
an
advantage,
meaning
that
they
didn't
have
to
pay
for
the
lease
which
is
significant
in
a
way
as
well.
So
they
were
like.
Okay,
we're
not
going
to
charge
you
for
to
use
our
space.
But
you
should
you
have
to
go
and
buy
the
chair,
yeah
and
the
table.
J
E
E
So
we
were
trying
to
help
the
people
that
that
needed
wanted
to
do
outdoor
dining,
but
all
of
a
sudden
the
regulations
were
back
to
normal
and
there
was
no
waving
of
the
leases
right
and
I
don't
think
it
was
completely
waived.
It
was
just
like
a
pro
rate.
E
Yes,
it
was
meant
to
support
the
people
that
couldn't
benefit
from
that
the
the
pro-rated,
the
easing
of
the
restrictions
during
during
the
pendant
during
the
emergency
proclamation,
because
that
makes
sense.
B
Right
so
so
we're
reimbursing
those
that
yeah
we're
able
to
benefit
somewhat,
maybe
not
100,
but
somewhat
with
the
leases
that
we
reduced
and
they
went
ahead
and
paid
for
a
chair
and
a
table,
and
so
now
we're
saying
hey
if
you
did
that
come
back
to
us
show
us
the
receipts,
we'll
reimburse
you
for
this
and
for
those
that
didn't
know,
forgot
or
weren't
in
a
position
to
do
that.
Then
here
is
another
opportunity
for
you
to
do
outdoor
dining,
we're
still
going
to
charge
you
for
the
lease
of
of
the
republic
right
away.
B
I
I
I
think,
though,
we
still
do
have
sort
of
a
process
and
a
systems
issue
that
we
might
want
to
resolve
for
the
future,
because
it,
it
sounds
like
you've,
probably
had
conversations
out
in
the
community
about
this
specific
program,
and
there
are
people
who
are
waiting
for
the
opportunity
to
get
reimbursed
question
mark
is
that
true.
T
I
T
I
It's
very
unusual
to
to
go
back
and
say
you
want
a
program
that
starts
on
this
date
and
ends
or
ends
on
this
date,
and
that
you
want
to
reimburse
the
people
who
knew
and
they
sort
of
have
to
know
they
would
have
had
to
know
that
they
were
going
to
get
reimbursed.
It's
it's
a
very
unusual
way
to
do
government.
I
Usually
what
happens?
Is
you
come
up
with
a
program
idea?
You
bet
it
with
the
people
and
then
you
come
to
the
counseling.
You
get
approval
and
then
then
you
can
do
the
program,
but
it
it
sort
of
seems,
like
you,
have
a
specific
set
of
people
in
mind.
You're
reimbursing
them.
There
may
have
been
other
people
who
would
have
loved
to
have
this
program
at
that
time
if
they
knew
that
there
was
a
potential
to
get
reimbursed,
but
not
everyone
knew.
T
T
T
This
is
something
that
was
established
and
has
been
in
discussions
out
there
just
because
we
do
talk
to
stakeholders,
entities
that
we
work
with
in
terms
what
their
needs
may
be,
and
and
yet,
if
we
needed
to
make
some
changes
and
of
course
I
think
we
also
would
be
committed
to
ensure
that
we're
doing
a
strong
community
engagement,
so
individuals
or
business
entities
that
don't
know
right
now.
We
can
definitely
let
them
know
about
that.
I
So
it's
really
important
if
you
start,
if
you're
going
in
a
direction
that
you
get
the
program
put
together
and
give
everybody
kind
of
the
equal
opportunity
it
just
I'm.
Looking
back
on
the
the
street
activity
process
that
also
that
kind
of
came
to
the
council
afterwards
for
reimbursement,
and
so
it
just
we
could
just
work
together
to
oh.
E
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
you
know
when
we
talk.
We
engage
with
with
businesses
on
these
types
of
programs.
We,
you
know,
we
would
never
give
an
expectation
that
anybody's
going
to
get
any
fun
that
anyone's
entitled
to
any
funding.
We've
always
been
straightforward,
that
this
would
be
a
competitive
grant
process
contingent
upon
the
guidelines
and
the
approval
from
council.
So
I
would
say
I
would
almost
say
that
I
don't
think
anybody
is,
it
would
be
expecting,
would
feel
entitled
or
expecting
these
funds.
I
T
No,
we
we
understand
that
we,
no,
I
misspoke.
So
let
me
go
back
and
correct
myself.
We
were
ready
to
go,
but
you
wanted
to
see
the
guidelines.
So
it's
taking
us
this
long
to
come
to
you.
So
you
can
see
our
guidelines
and
we've
worked
with
the
city
attorney
to
ensure
that
those
guidelines
follow
similar
other
programs
that
have
been
executed
before
and.
C
F
I
appreciate
this
conversation
and
I
really
appreciate
something
that
council
member
pui
said
and
and
looking
at
the
equity
of
all
of
these
things
and
the
process,
because
I
appreciate
our
edlf
and
after
last
week
I
realized
that
we
were
giving
a
loan
to
a
multi-million
dollar
company
which
is
great
chip
is,
is
great,
I'm
not
going
to
take
it
back,
but
it's
a
multi-million
dollar
company
and
I
think
to
the
point
of
well.
F
My
point
is:
we
need
to
be
looking
at
small
businesses,
and
that
is
what
the
city
should
be
doing
and
so
the
idea
that
we
were
ready,
but
for
the
council
asking
for
guidelines.
Well,
that's
council's
job,
so
I
mean.
F
I
appreciate
all
of
the
work
that
economic
development
does
and
appreciate,
giving
out
money
to
businesses
when
they
need
it,
and
knowing
that
there
is
a
public
benefit.
That's
coming
to
us
with
it,
but
it
is
our
job
to
ask
the
questions
of
how
why,
when
where
and
making
sure
that
it
is
equitable
throughout
the
city,
and
it
is
reaching
the
goals
that
we
have
so
I
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
this
conversation
and
point
out
that
I
think
there's
more
conversation
to
be
had
on
some
of
these
things.
B
B
So
we
have
a
number
of-
I
don't
know,
10
restaurants,
that
did
this
so
that
we
know
that
they
are
eligible
for
reimbursement
and
also
show
us
there's
a
potential
of
100
restaurants
in
salt
lake
city
that
could
use
this
fund
if
it
was
available
for
them
for
outdoor
seating
and
the
outdoor
seating
point.
It
was
a
long
time
during
coverage
because
we
needed
people
outside,
of
course,.
B
Because
it
happened,
naturally,
people
didn't
want
to
go
inside
a
restaurant,
so
it
was
a
way
to
help
the
restaurants
get
some
of
those
clients
back
in,
but
I
think
there's
like
another
benefit
in
my
you
know,
for
for
my
purposes
my
agenda
is
to
bring
some
people
back
to
salt
lake
city
downtown
and
and
and
go
to
restaurants-
and
you
know,
spend
time
in
in
our
city
and
and
money
and
all
of
that
stuff.
B
So
for
sure
I
want
to
invest
in
this,
but
I
would
like
to
see
what's
the
potential
like
and
how
much
money
potential
we
could
give
giving
out.
Hopefully
everybody
takes
care-
you
know
takes
advantage
of
this.
If
not,
then
we
come
back
here
and
we
we
only
use
it
a
hundred
thousand.
Now
we
have
another
hundred
thousand
dollars
left
for
something
else,
but
data
point
for
information
would
make
more
sense
to
me
and
I
think
for
maybe
for
some
of
us
to
say.
Oh,
this
is
what
they're
talking
about.
These
are
the
benefits.
T
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
love
the
idea
council
chairman
expressed
earlier
for
us
to
come
back
and
report
who
are
they
recipients
of
this
grant,
and
I
also
want
to
say
that
we
love
bringing
back
any
guideline
that
we
have
to
share
with
you.
I
think
whenever
we
share
new
information
and
we
look
at
guidelines
there,
you
know
we
we
can
always
have
blind
spots.
T
So
if
you
can
help
us
see
some
of
those,
we
truly
appreciate
that
and
we
want
to
implement
programs
that
serve
everyone
in
our
community,
especially
when
we
look
at
communities
that
haven't
been
served
in
the
past.
E
C
H
I
just
wanted
to
maybe
suggest
something
that
might
bridge
some
of
the
concerns
brought
up
here,
and
it
relates
to
the
point
that
councilman
romano
brought
in
earlier,
which
is
finding
a
way
to
maybe
fund
some
allow
for
applications
for
future
expenses,
but
maybe
open
that
up
a
little
bit
and
maybe
have
a
little
wiggle
room
about
what
receipt
you
know.
Maybe
maybe
for
some
of
those
businesses
to
to
the
points
brought
up
a
few
minutes
ago.
H
Maybe
they
didn't
keep
the
receipt,
but
there
is
proof-
and
I
know
that
that
adds
a
lot
of
work,
and
I
maybe
there
is
some
legal
room
there-
some
guidelines
to
add
for
them
to
prove
that
the
expense
happened
and
just
to,
in
the
sake
of
fairness.
I
think
it
to
to
that
point
is
a
very
fair
point
to
be
made
to
say
some
of
those
business
maybe
didn't
know
and
that
money
it
might
sound
like.
H
We
are
picking
and
choosing
right
and
that's
not
really
what
the
economic
development
wants
to
do,
and
I
know
the
goal
and
I
know
you
guys
work
and
your
leadership
there
and
I
it
is
very
noted
by
the
way.
So
maybe
we
just
changing
some
of
these
guidelines
a
little
bit
and
maybe
giving
yourself
a
little
wiggle
room.
There
might
be
useful.
So
thank
you
so
much.
I
Just
what
we
will
do
on
our
end
is
go
back
and
check
our
system
too,
because
when
like,
when
did
we
get
the
transmittal
and
did
we
do
our
work
fast
enough
or
were
there?
You
know,
were
there
things
we
could
have
done
differently
to
so
we'll
do
that
on
our
end
too,
and
then
we'll
coordinate
with.
C
C
Now
we
have
jennifer
also
coming
to
the
table,
john
you
gonna
come
hang
out
with
us.
T
Maybe
I
can
just
try
to
give
a
cliff's
notes
version
of
the
framing
that
was
in
the
report
just
wanting
to
clarify
really
quickly
that
the
discussion
topic
for
today
is
the
livable
streets
initiative,
funding,
which
the
council
approved
in
conjunction
with
the
fiscal
year
23
budget
for
2
million,
that's
separate
from
the
3
million
dollars
that
was
in
cip
for
complete
streets
funding.
T
The
way
I
think
about
it,
that's
probably
overly
simplified,
but
it's
my
overly
simplified
way
of
thinking
about
it
is
complete
streets,
deals
more
with
sort
of
the
larger
scale
street
reconstructions
and
making
sure
that
those
improvements
are
done
in
a
complete
streets
way,
whereas
the
livable
streets
initiative
is
implementing
the
policy
that
was
presented
to
the
council
in.
I
want
to
say,
october
of
2021
that
deals
with
more
neighborhood
scale
traffic
calming
improvements
on
a
sort
of
neighborhood
by
neighborhood
basis
throughout
the
city.
T
So
with
that
framing
the
administration
is
here
with
a
proposal
on
sort
of
how
that
two
million
will
be
allocated
for
that
neighborhood
scale,
improvement,
traffic,
calming
improvements
and
is
inviting
council
policy
input
before
they
start
spending
that
money.
Even
though
that
money
has
already
been
allocated,
so
we
appreciate
them
coming
for
input
thanks.
N
Yeah,
I
will
go
over
the
three
prioritization
options
and
scott.
Can
you
follow
with
the
three
maps
that
are
in
the
staff
report?
This
is
on
page
two,
three
and
four.
N
N
So
the
first
map
is
the
top
10
zones
city-wide,
and
this
would
be
a
needs-based,
an
equity
approach.
So
it
takes
all
113
zones
that
were
already
identified
in
the
program
and
it
ranks
them
based
upon
relative
need.
I
would
defer
to
john
about
what
variables
and
how
those
ranking
calculations
are
made.
N
The
second
approach
would
be
equal
investments
between
the
council
districts.
This
doesn't
necessarily
mean
an
equal
dollar
amount,
since
some
zones
have
greater
needs
than
others.
Some
zones
might
be
several
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Some
might
be
a
few
hundred
thousand
dollars,
but
in
the
second
map
you
can
see
the
top
two
zones
in
each
district.
N
And
then
the
last
approach-
and
this
is
the
color-coded
map
on
page
five-
it
would
be
taking
the
top
tier
of
zones
and
then
rotating
through
the
council
districts.
So
the
zones
that
are
color-coded,
red,
orange
and
yellow
there
are
25
such
zones.
Those
could
be
considered
the
highest
need
category,
so
you
could
say
we're
going
to
target
those
25
first
and
then
the
other
88
afterward.
N
You
could
rotate
through
the
council
districts,
so
three
maps,
three
different
prioritization
approaches.
Hopefully
that
helps
connect
the
the
options
with
what
the
impacts
would
be
on
the
ground.
But
there
are
certainly
other
approaches
which
we
can
discuss
and
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
john.
If
he
wants
to
add
anything.
L
Thanks
ben
yeah
and
I
think
that's
a
fantastic
summary
and
again,
I
think
this
is
a
staff
report.
Kind
of
I
think,
encapsulates
the
issue
and
and
where
you
know
we're
looking
for
that,
the
guidance
from
council,
because
this
is
you
know,
we
could
easily
just
choose
one,
but
we
think
it
would.
L
It
would
be
best
if,
if
council
provided
some
some
guidance
on
you
know
because
of
their
political
implications
of
going,
you
know
you
can
go,
maybe
a
purely
political
route
or
which
would
be
like
geographic
equity
versus
a
purely
technical
route
which
could
leave
some
districts
waiting
for
a
while
before
they
get
some
investment.
And
so
we
look
to
you
and
are
here
to
answer
questions.
If
you
have
you
know
further
thoughts
or
questions
or
ideas,
customer.
P
Romano,
I
would
be
interested
in
ben's
question
to
you,
john,
about
what
went
into
the
prioritization
of
these
different
areas.
Is
it
like
actual
history
of
traffic
of
auto
pedestrian
accidents
or
what
is
it
that
that
made
some
of
these
red
and
some
of
them
blue
and
green?
That's
what
laura's
here
for.
J
Yeah,
I
can
speak
to
that
one,
it's
a
great
question,
so
we
had
a
whole
sort
of
slew
of
factors.
We
did
do
vehicle
speeds,
which
was
through
a
a
data
gathering
company.
So
it's
sort
of
a
subset
of
all
vehicle
speeds.
It
wasn't
laying
tubes
on
the
road,
so
overall
vehicle
speeds,
and
then
we
had
property
crashes
or
where
there
weren't
any
injuries
and
then
also
injury
and
fatality
crashes,
and
so
those
were
ranked
higher
than
just
property
crashes.
J
We
also
factored
in
what
we
call
community
assets
within
each
zone
or
in
a
certain
radius
within
each
zone.
A
quarter
of
a
mile
within
each
zone,
parks,
schools,
senior,
centers,
libraries,
anything
along
those
lines
that
you
might
have
more
people
traveling
to
especially
on
foot
or
bike,
and
then
from
the
socioeconomic
side.
We
prioritized
zero
car
households
and
we
also
factored
in
minority
population
and.
J
P
Okay,
that's
great
thanks,
laura
when
you
say
zero
car
households.
Does
that
mean
that
areas
with
more
households
that
do
not
have
a
car
would
rank
higher
on
the
level
of
need?
Yeah?
Because
that's
that's!
We
assume
that
those
people
are
walking
more
because
they
don't
have
access
okay,
great
and
then
just
if
you
don't
have
the
answer
to
this,
that's
fine,
but
if
you
were
to
remove
the
socioeconomic
and
race-based
things,
would
the
map
look
very
different
or
would
it
look
still
relatively
similar?
J
Think
just
based
on
the.
If
you
look
at
an
overlay
of
crash
data
and
then
also
the
speed
data
that
we
have,
those
crashes
and
speeds
are
more
prevalent
in
some
of
the
the
areas
that
are
already
ranked
pretty
high.
I
don't.
I
can't
say
that
it
would
be
a
one
to
one
by
any
means.
I'm
sure
there
would
be
some
shifting,
but
I
think
generally,
the
color-coded
map
would
stay
similar.
P
Okay,
I
appreciate
that
I'm
sorry,
mr
kip,
I
keep
going.
G
P
Chair,
I
I
think
that
I
look
at
this
map
and
it's
pretty
clear
to
me
where
the
areas
of
most
need
are,
and
now
I
understand
how
the
the
colors
were
generated,
and
it
makes
sense
to
me
I
I
feel
like
we
must
prioritize
the
areas
that
have
a
higher
need
and
because
there's
a
pretty
clear
equity
divide
here
so
and
I'll
add
to
that.
P
Even
though
I
don't
represent
one
of
these
two
districts
they're,
we
don't
have
equal
number
of
lane
miles
of
road
in
each
district,
so
to
put
equal
number
of
dollars
into
each
district.
Even
if
the
situation
on
the
ground
was
the
same,
would
not
make
any
sense,
but
districts,
one
and
two
have
way:
are
weight
geographically,
bigger
and
have
more
roads
in
them,
so
they're
going
to
need
more
money
to
make
those
roads
safe.
So
I
guess
that
that's
my
perspective.
C
But
when
you
say
we
have
two
million.
This
is
one
year
for
two
million.
If
this
is
we're
not
looking
at
ongoing
revenue,
possibly
but
at
this
point
it's
just
for
2
million
for
projects.
C
What's
your
estimate
on
how
many
zones
that
you
could
accomplish
with
that
2
million-
I
know
that-
may
not
be
exact
science
here
on
that,
probably
about
four,
so
you
could
probably
do
about
four
projects
either
with
that
two
million
dollars
and
it
would
and
it
wouldn't
be.
You
know
we
give
you
the
money
on
august
17th
we'll
give
you
you
know,
12
hours
and
by
august
by
july
1st
you
wouldn't
be
spending
that
two
million
dollars
you'd
still.
It
would
take
you
some
time
to
get
that
money
spent.
L
Yeah-
and
I
think
it's
some
of
you
and
maybe
particularly
council
member
wharton-
can
attest
the
it
takes
a
tremendous
amount
of
outreach
and
engagement
to
get
some
consensus
before
moving
ahead
with
that's
actually
where
most
of
the
effort
is,
and
so
we're
very
appreciative
of
the
the
new
staff
members
that
you
funded
for
us
and
just
a
quick
note
on
that.
L
Those
positions
are
advertised
and
we've
been
getting
a
pretty
healthy
response
and
we're
very
encouraged
with
the
quantity
and
quality
of
the
applicants
we're
seeing
so
far
right.
But
that
will
really
help
us
to
to
push
this
forward.
C
So
that's
and
I,
after
you
said
the
four
there
now
I
remember,
I
think
you
did
say
like
25
years
to
get
through
the
113
programs
of
zones
and
quite
a
few
dollars
at
the
rate
of
probably
about
two
or
so
a
year,
and
I
know
we
would
get
better
over
time,
because
then
we
have
a
better
feel
for
what
actually
works
throughout
the
city
after
you
get
the
first
couple
completed
and
you
get
kind
of
like
people
understanding
what
a
safe
street
and
projects
look
like.
C
So
right
now,
when
we,
when
we
discuss
ben's
ideas
of
the
top
10
top
25
early,
we're
talking
about
the
top
four
for
the
two
million
right
yeah
for
this
year
for
this
year
and
then
and
then
we
could
come
back
if
we
want
to
do
something
in
the
out
years.
Look
at
other
other
ideas,
so
I'm
leaning
as
councilman
romano
says.
You
know
the.
C
If
you're
going
to
do
the
top
four,
then
you
better
do
the
top
four
that
are
the
that
that
come
up
to
your,
what
laura
was
telling
us
the
grading
criteria.
C
I
would
love
to
you
know,
have
each
district
have
a
top,
but
I
think
the
top
four
at
this
point
should
be
addressed
as
as
soon
as
possible
and
that
we
will
now
get
educated
by
doing
those
top
four
across
the
city
on
what
works
and
what
doesn't
work.
H
Someone
that
represents
most
of
the,
what
is
what
is
the
color
that
comes
out
with
orange
and
red
whatever
that
color
is
like
you
know,
I
you
know,
I
will,
I
feel
very
strongly
and,
as
you
probably
all
know,
it's
an
issue
that
I've
been
receiving
a
lot
of
feedback
from
the
community
about
the
issues
of
we
had
meetings
with
the
neighbors
in
a
park,
and
it
is
a
big
big
issue
on
the
west
side
and
the
neighbors
are
noticing
the
lack
of
or
the
unsafe
streets
and
the
unsafe
roads,
and
you
know,
and
and
they
want
they
expect
us
to
do
more.
H
So
I
will
advocate
for
for
some
of
those
red
areas
in
in
my
district
and
in
victoria's
district,
and
I
will
probably
I
know
that
chris
councilmember
warden
also
hears
a
lot
about
the
the
marmalade
area.
But
you
know
those
those
areas
are
the
ones
that
I
hear
a
lot
too,
because
I
hang
out
in
that
part
of
town,
sometimes
so.
Yeah.
F
L
So,
coincidentally,
council
already
funded
the
top
zone
last
year
and
which
is
west
capitol
hill
and
we're
we're
actively
working
on
refining
the
the
design.
For
that.
F
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
this
color-coded
map
and
I
think
that
to
councilmember
mano's
point
I
don't
know
that
it
would
change.
F
If
we're
just
I
mean
if
we're
just
looking
at
traffic
and
accidents.
This
seems
right
to
me
because
the
red
zone
in
my
area
is
probably
21st
and
9th,
which
is
where
I
get
the
most
complaints.
One
of
my
questions
is:
have
we
done
an
overlay
like
a
a
map
overlay?
I
would
love
to
see
of
the
cip
projects
for
traffic
calming
that
have
already
been
funded,
because
I
think
that
should
actually
be
another
one
of
the
priority
kind
of
checklists
right.
F
L
Crazy
yeah,
no
councilmember
fowler
that
that
totally
makes
sense-
and
you
know,
and
as
as
you've
noted
previously,
there
are
some
a
handful
of
projects,
the
constituent,
cip
projects
that
have
been
funded
over
the
last
two
years
that
have
taken
a
little
bit
of
time
to
to
get
rolling
and
a
big
part
of
that
has
been.
Our
staff
have
been
swamped
with
the
the
bond
projects,
because
those
have
such
a
tight
timeline
and
they're
so
high
profile,
but
they
maybe
I'm
being
too
long-winded.
L
Yes,
those
should
be
the
top
priority,
the
projects
that
are
already
funded
we'll
we
want
to
get
those
to
the
finish
line
as
soon
as
possible.
Before
we
start
new
zones.
F
Our
friend
in
finance,
I'm
sorry,
I
can't
remember
his
name
right
now,
andrew
andrew
in
finance,
that
does
all
the
great
things
with
all
of
the
mapping
and
like
the
incredible
technology
that
we've
all
like
funded
and
been
excited
about.
It
seems
that
we
could
be
able
to
figure
out
where
those
cip
projects
are
and
then
start
to
prioritize
in
that
way
now
I
also
recognize
that
cap
projects
tend
to
get
constituent-led.
F
For
me,
because
I
again,
I
recognize
that
sugar
house
doesn't
everything's
fine
in
sugar
house
according
to
to
people,
but
we're
the
like
the
second
biggest
like
city
in
salt
lake
city
right
and
so
all
of
these
affect
the
area
as
well
and
sort
of
just
want
to
make
sure-
and
I
know
we
funded
them,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
those
projects
done
the
way
they
should
and
that's
all,
I'm
going
to
say
now.
E
E
I
have
not
collected
the
data
on
this,
but
it
does
feel
like
when
I
visit
other
places,
there's
a
lot
more
emphasis
already
put
on
the
walking
infrastructure
and
on
those
safety
things
as
opposed
to
the
west
side,
where
it
still
feels
like
the
wild
west
when
it
comes
to
crossing
streets,
especially
in
my
district
in
front
of
the
northwest
rec
area.
It's
just
you
know
a
game
of
frogger.
You
know
trying
to
be
safe.
J
C
Yeah,
well,
I
think
what
councilman
romano's
pointed
out
was
that
you
know
the
2
million
is
going
to
and
john
pointed
out
that
the
2
million
is
going
to
work
worked
out
to
be
about
four
zones.
So
the
idea
was
that
you
take
your
top
four
zones:
well,
actually
minus
the
top
one
zone
because
that's
already
been
funded
and
then
take
the
other,
the
other
top
four
and
fund
those
those
zones
as
per
but
also
kind
of
on
making
sure
that
what
councilmember
fowler
said
was
hey.
C
If
we
already
have
cip
projects
out
there,
we
shouldn't
work
on
those,
but
those
could
be
spread
out
through
the
city
and
spread
out
part
of
the
zones.
The
reason
why
we
were
doing
the
zones
was
that
we're
attacking
one
area
and
we're
not
attacking
one
street
in
one
area,
a
bunch
of
places
which
would
basically
negate
the
the
benefits
of
of
the
whole
idea
of
livable
streets
well,.
E
That's
why
I'm
kind
of
pointing
to
in
on
the
first
map
number
zone,
number
seven,
actually
spans
council,
member
poise,
district
and
mine,
and
we
have
a
cip
that
we
advocated
for
the
10th
north
10th
west
5
north
intersection,
which
is
contained
there
in.
But
there
are
so
many
other
things
required
in
that
area.
And
so,
if
there's
a
dearth
of.
E
C
H
And
district,
the
number
seven
on
on
the
council
member
peter
ashley
just
mentioned
is
outside
my
district,
but
it
is
the
border
of
my
district
and
I
hear
a
lot
from
from
that
area
too,
but
I
you
know,
I
think,
based
on
on
the
red,
I
you
know,
I
was
looking
a
lot
about
the
last
map.
The
most
you
know
the
one
that
is
color
coded
and
I
like
that
one,
the
the
best
just
because
of
you
know
it
uses
other
data.
H
I
mean,
I
guess
you
use
much
of
this
data
to
make
those
decisions.
So
I
I
just
wanted
clarification
on
that.
Yeah.
C
J
Really
quickly,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that,
as
a
zone
as
a
specific
example,
the
reason
that
we
divided
the
city
up
into
zones,
the
way
that
we
did
was
so
that
it
wouldn't
be
one
street
at
a
time
or
one
intersection
at
a
time.
So
I
certainly
wouldn't
want
to
give
the
impression
that
our
intent
is
to
deprioritize
an
entire
zone
because
of
maybe
a
ccip
project
on
one
intersection.
So.
C
So-
and
I
just
want
to
make
ask
john
a
question:
do
you
understand
or
do
you
have
a
clear
understanding
of
where
we'd
like
you
to
go?
R
R
I
know
I
just
really
quickly
wanted
to
say
that
it.
I
really
really
appreciate
the
transportation
division
and
everything
that
you've
done
both
in
the
last
couple
years
and
also
very
recently,
we
had
a
meeting
like
when
were
we
out
there
this
morning
in
the
morning
friday,
friday
morning,
we
had
another
meeting
today
right
before
this
meeting
lots
of
emails
in
between,
and
I
know
how
hard
and
john
specifically
and
your
division
are
working,
and
this
is
just
an
increasing
area
of
interest.
R
Like
I
don't
think
I
mean
the
residents
on
capitol
hill
are,
are
very
interested
and
activated
on
this
on
this
issue.
But
I
don't
think
that
this
is
an
anomaly
I
I
know
that
it
happens
in
all
of
our
districts
and
I
don't
think
that
it's
gonna
that
it's
gonna
diminish
anytime
soon,
and
so
I
really
really
appreciate
what
you've
done
so
far
and
thank
you
in
advance
for
all
the
work
you're
about
to
do.
L
You
I
just
I
mean
truly
it's
it's
a
privilege
to
to
be
able
to
do
this,
and
I
think,
as
far
as
on
the
recruiting
trail
for
hiring
people
to
this
city,
salt
lake
city
has
a
reputation
of
being
a
leader
and-
and
it
starts
with,
you,
know
the
leadership
and
so
and
like
truly
it's
it's
a
privilege
to
be
in
this
position,
and
it's
because
of
you.
So
thank
you.
L
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
get
the
the
funded
constituent,
cip
projects
to
the
finish
line
and
make
those
a
priority,
as
as
we
bring
additional
staff
resources
on
board
and
then
for
this
year.
We
we
just
go
just
worse
first,
so
we
start
at
the
at
the
top
of
the
the
list
and
work
down
from
there,
and
then
we
can
revisit
next
year
when,
depending
on
you
know
how
much
funding
comes
available,
how
how
the
council
would
want
to
allocate
those
is
that.
P
Councilman,
yes,
however,
I
think
I
I
want
to
give
your
division
flexibility
to
like,
not
say,
you're
not
allowed
to
work
on
any
of
these
until
all
of
the
constituent-funded
requested
ones
are
completely
done,
like
you
know,
when
staff
time
opens
up
and
when
it
makes
sense
to
start
pulling
people
off
of
one
project
and
planning
doing
initial
planning
for
the
other
one.
P
So
I
I
think
I
believe
you
should
still
have
the
flexibility
to
begin
working
on
these
as
soon
as
you
have
the
resources
to
as
long
as
it's
not
meaning
that
the
other
projects
are
not
getting
done,
so
it
makes
sense.
I
don't
I
don't
want
you
to
feel
like
you
cannot
do
these
until
the
other
ones
are
done,
we're
not
gonna
micromanage.
You.
C
That
much
I
appreciate
that,
but
you,
you
kind
of
captured
exactly
what
I
think
our
our
desires
are
for
this
program
and
we
look
forward
to
this
continuing
as
we
get
smarter
and
smarter,
not
only
as
far
as
the
department
is
concerned,
but
also
our
city
is
concerned
on
what
we'd
like
to
see
in
the
level
of
streets.
C
So
I
think
this
is
a
great
education
and
I
do
appreciate
that
because,
as
far
as
the
discussions
on
livable
streets
boy,
each
neighborhood
and
each
and
a
lot
of
people
have
different
ideas
and
desires,
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
first
step
moving
forward.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
the
work
councilman
pui
has
30.
L
So,
are
you
sure,
wonderful
yeah?
I'm
looking
forward
to
that,
and
I
will
I
will
add,
if
I
may,
that
we're
excited
about
the
the
200
000
for
the
quick
action.
I
think
that
provides
opportunity
for
a
lot
of
creativity
and
I've
been
telling
our
staff.
L
I
want
this
to
be
fun
and
connective
and
something
that
the
communities
can
feel
a
lot
of
ownership
in
and
that
it's
not
just
partly
with
the
rebranding
of
livable
streets
and
not
just
traffic
calming
that
we're
focusing
on
the
fact
that
you
know
we're
taking
back
the
streets
for
the
people.
L
That
sounds
really
dramatic
right,
but
taking
back
the
streets
for
the
people
right
that
these
are
streets
that
people
want
to
live
on
and
that-
and
I
think
the
quick
action
projects
provide
an
opportunity
for
that
and
maybe
doing
some
things
that
could
be
combined
with
community
art,
work
and
and
things
and
and
so
we
and
that
I
think,
could
be
spread
city-wide
and
help
out
some
of
the
districts
and
the
neighborhoods
that
feel
like
they're
left
out
on
this
initial
amount
that
they're
still
getting
something.
E
This
funding
is
only
for
streets,
so
so
I
have
a.
I
have
a
really
big
concern
about
the
area
where
we're
proposing
that
the
tiny
home
village
go
predominantly
because
there
is
a
charter
school
already
there
in
the
middle
of
that
industrial
park.
That
does
not
have
any
safety
and
the
amount
of
infrastructure
investment.
That's
going
to
be
required
to
keep
all
of
those
potential
residents
safe,
plus
those
young
people
at
the
school
is
pretty
insane.
L
Yeah,
it's
I
think
the
intent
was
that
this
would
be
focused
on
existing
retrofitting
existing
residential
streets.
We
do
specifically
for
the
tiny
home
village
and
the
wallace
dagner
academy.
We
actually
using
some
funding.
I
think,
from
last
year
we
carved
off
30
thousand
dollars
to
do
an
analysis
to
improve
the
connectivity.
L
The
bike
ped
master
plan
calls
for
the
nine
line
to
connect
across
redwood
road
and
to
the
there's
a
trail,
that's
in
the
plan
as
well
on
the
surplus
canal
and
then
there's
some
other
opportunities,
we're
building
a
new
bus
hub
on
it's
kind
of
this
triangle,
where
orange
street
fourth
south
and
fifth
south
meet.
L
It's
under
just
started
construction
actually
last
month
and
several
bus
lines
of
the
new
bus
lines
and
there
and
it's
just
right-
you
can
see
it
on
a
map
as
the
bird
flies,
it's
really
close
to
the
to
the
tiny
home
village,
and
so,
if
we
could
punch
through
a
little
trail,
there
there's
good
bus
service
on
redwood
road,
and
then
we
can
get
connected
to
the
nine-line
trail.
So
anyway,
we
want
to
figure
all
that
out
and
figure
out
just
what
that
would
take
to
bring
that
up
to
par
and
make
it.
C
You
yeah
well.
Thank
you
very
much,
john
laura.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thanks
for
that
presentation
and
I
look
forward
to
the
work
yeah.
This
is
great.
We're
gonna
move
on
council
members
with
item
number
eight,
the
community
recovery
committee.
T
T
This
is
just
proposing
to
change
the
membership
slightly
of
the
community
recovery
committee
to
allow
for
a
membership
from
the
arts
council
and
make
the
language
more
flexible
about
membership
from
the
rep
and
h
rc,
because
just
to
make
sure
that
there's
the
ability
to
staff
the
committee
with
current
board
members-
and
I
think
there
was
generally
support
among
council
members
to
staff
that
up
as
quickly
as
possible,
right.
C
And
could
you
just
remind
us
exactly
the
the
new
language?
I
know
it's
in
the
staff
report,
because
we
are
going
to
be
looking
at
that
this
afternoon
or
this
evening
in
the
formal
meeting.
T
You're
fine,
I
should
have
had
it
pulled
up
yeah.
It
would
be
a
total
of
seven
or
nine
members
with
up
to
three
from
the
human
rights
commission,
one
from
the
business
advisory
board,
three
from
the
racial
equity,
up
to
three
from
the
racial
equity
and
policing
commission,
one
from
the
economic
development
loan
fund
committee
and
one
from
the
salt
lake
arts,
council.
R
C
And
the
same
thing:
okay,
any
any
questions
for
rachel
or
jennifer
on
this
line.
Item.
P
P
We
wanted
to
ask
the
hrc
and
the
racial
economic
policing
commission
to
serve
on
this,
because
those
are
important
individuals,
but
we're
also
putting
a
huge
burden
service
burden
on
people
who
already
are
doing
a
lot
for
their
own
communities
and
for
our
city
as
a
whole.
So
thank
you
so
much.
I'm
not
surprised
that
it
was
a
little
trickier
to
staff
the
the
board
than
we
expected,
because
just
thinking
who
who
the
people
that
are
already
serving
on
there
are
just
incredible
individuals
that
have
so
many
things
on
their
place.
E
R
R
R
So,
but
that's
just
my
impression
is
there:
can
we
get
a
update
when
you
have
time
about
what
our
vacancy
level
is
right
now
for
boards
and
commissions,
because
in
in
my,
I
was
kind
of
surprised
to
see
it
because
in
my
mind
I
feel,
like
we've
been
improving
a
lot.
So
I
don't
know
what
what
the
backlog
is
or
whatever
so
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up
and
just
ask
if
we
can
get
that
information
when
you
have
a
chance
thanks
for.
J
J
So
we
appreciate
moving
them
as
quickly
as
possible
through.
I
know
it's
been
a
lot
this
summer
and
we
are
trying
to
fill
all
the
vacancies
as
fast
as
possible.
We've
also
tried
to
do
more
recruiting
to
make
sure
that
we're
actually
getting
more
geographical
and
demographic,
equity
and
diversity
on
the
boards,
and
so
we've
tried
to
be
a
little
bit
more
thoughtful
about.
You
know
where
we're
recruiting
and
thanks
for
the
council
members
help
in
getting
the
word
out
on
certain
boards.
J
I
H
Rachel,
thank
you
so
much
for
that
report
that
and
if
we
can
add
a
distribution
by
districts
and
it's
something
important
to
me
as
the
distribution
by
district,
also
in
at
large
appointees,
when
we
are
appointing
someone
to
a
board
that
is
at
large,
not
necessarily
assigned
to
a
specific
district.
H
I
would
like
to
know
in
which
district
they
live
and
know
that
I
have
an
opinion
you
know,
but
for
me,
especially
on
the
west
side,
there
is
sometimes
very
hard
to
have
voices
participating,
and
you
know
I
one
of
my
goals
and
many
of
us
is
trying
to
get
diversity
and
people
from
the
west
side
to
participate
in
those
boards.
So
I
would
like
to
add
that
to
hopefully
the
future
letters
you
know
the
transmittals
to
the
council.
I
J
C
And
yes,
and
we're
very
appreciative
of
the
the
effort
across
the
administration
to
fill
the
boards
and
and
to
work
with
the
boards
and
make
sure
that
they're
a
viable
and
functioning
board
so
really
appreciate
all
the
effort
going
on
on
the
administration
side,
so
appreciate
all
the
effort.
Thank
you
very
much.
F
Thank
you.
I
was
just
thinking
with
what
alejandro
council
member
bowie
just
said.
F
I
wonder
if
and
I
don't
want
to
put
too
much
work
on
the
administration
or
add
to
it,
because
we
council
members
love
to
add
to
the
work
that
y'all
do,
but
in
like
every
six
months
in
westin's
update
with
the
community
outreach,
maybe-
and
maybe
it's
a
once
a
year
thing
or
something
like
that,
we
could
add
that
item
to
to,
like
the
community
outreach
update
that
we
get
from
austin
right
of
just
where
our
boards
are
what's
vacant.
What's
not,
I
don't
know
it's
an
idea,
throwing
it
out.
There
sounds
good.
F
C
Thank
you
very
much
and
council.
C
To
be
moving
on
here
in
a
second
and
we're
going
to
postpone
item
number
nine,
which
is
the
economic
development
revolving
loan
fund
to
a
future
event
or
future
meeting,
so
we
can
go
into
hold
on
a
second.
Let
me
have
advice
of
my
counsel
hold
on.
T
I
It
can
be,
it
won't
change
the
time
for
which
it's
on
for
action.
C
C
At
that
point,
so
I
remember
levin
said
you
have
it
before
so.