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From YouTube: Salt Lake City Council Work Session - 06/14/2022
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A
B
Or
good
afternoon
salt
lake
city
and
welcome
to
the
june
14th
work
session
meeting,
we
just
finished
the
redevelopment
agency
board
meeting
and
we're
now
convening
as
the
city
council.
I
want
to
welcome
the
members
of
the
public
who
are
in
person
and
who
may
be
watching
our
usual
video
feeds
online.
B
As
many
of
you
know,
there
is
no
public
comment
during
a
work
session.
However,
please
join
us
at
7
pm
formal
meeting
tonight
for
a
public
comment
opportunity
and,
of
course
the
council
always
invites
the
public
to
provide
feedback
with
accounts
at
any
time
on
general
topics
by
emailing
it
or
mailing
us
at
po
box,
145,
476,
salt
lake
city,
84114
or
emailing
us
at
council.comments,
socgov.com
or
calling
our
24-hour
phone
line.
801-535-7654.
B
Following
today's
work
session
final
budget
related
discussions,
the
council
is
scheduled
to
adopt
a
final
budget
at
our
7
p.m.
Formal
meeting
the
council
thanks
mayor
mendenhall
and
the
administration
for
the
recommended
budget
and
for
all
of
your
work,
providing
comprehensive
budget
information
and
responses
to
our
questions
these
past
couple
months.
B
B
We
will
now
move
on
to
our
work
session.
Item
number
one:
the
informational
update
from
the
administrations-
and
we
have
the
mayor
here
today
with
also
rachel
otto
lisa
schaefer,
maybe
on
the
screen-
and
we
have
andrew
johnson
also
on
the
screen
mayor
thanks.
C
C
Our
cove
numbers
are
increasing
overall,
and
you
can
see
that
there
are
more
people
hospitalized
in
the
last
week
and
more
people
seeking
emergency
care
in
the
past
week
with
symptoms
of
kovid
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please,
overall,
though,
it's
a
leveling
out
compared
to
the
history
of
the
pandemic
here
in
the
city
next
slide.
C
Hospitalizations,
almost
at
the
lowest
in
the
past
month
in
this
week,
it's
kind
of
hard
to
contextualize
that
first
slide.
Once
you
see
how
normal
and
low
things
are
with
all
the
other
data,
so
it's
important.
I
think
that
we
look
through
these
different
lenses
and
the
next
slide
you'll
see
the
water
treatment
facility
detection,
which
shows
us
there's
not
a
spike
coming,
at
least
according
to
this
data
very
much
flat.
C
I
think
we
have
one
water
sprinkler
watering
slide
for
you
on
the
next
one
hope
not
quite
new
york
times.
Cases
are
up
34
percent
and
we're
the
19th
fastest
growing
state
for
new
cases
slightly
worse
than
before,
and
nationally
community
levels
in
salt
lake
county
are
moderate
for
positive,
coveted
cases
and
hospitalization.
C
Next,
one,
I
think,
is
the
water
sprinkler,
so
we
can
irrigate
two
times
a
day
here
in
northern
utah.
I'm
sorry
two
times
a
week,
pardon
me
and
this
the
conservewater.utah.gov
has
resources.
If
you
want
to
tune
up
your
own
sprinklers
or
if
you
want
to
call
on
entities
to
come
out
and
help,
you
make
sure
that
you're
watering
in
a
cons
appropriately
conservative
way
there
are
resources
for
our
residents
to
do
that
and
we'll
bring
you
this
lawn
watering
guide
every
week
that
they
put
it
out
from
the
state.
D
E
C
F
Thanks
mayor
next
slide,
please
I'll
be
brief
as
well.
This
week
we
do
have
a
97
occupancy
rate
in
the
resource
centers
holding
about
steady
from
last
week.
Next
slide,
we
talked
about
the
rapid
intervention
team
from
the
city
last
week
since
they
started
last
week,
they've
been
targeting
seven
seven
camps.
F
Excuse
me,
wherein
the
outreach
teams
do
a
lot
of
outreach
to
the
individuals
in
those
camps
and
match
them
up
with
services
as
much
as
possible,
and
also
follow
up
with
cleanings
of
the
camps
in
the
areas
around
them
and
that's
in
addition
to
regular
cleanings
across
the
city
based
on
reports
and
the
need,
and
then
health
department
will
be
leading
abatements
and
cleanings
this
week
around
200
south
and
fisher
mansion
area,
the
jordan
river.
F
Next
slide,
we
had
a
resource
fair
at
liberty
park.
Last
friday
you
can
see
the
salt
lake
city,
justice
court,
was
there
rescue
mission,
utah
naloxone
department
of
workforce
services
and
then
special.
Thank
you
to
the
rose
park
community
center
scholarship
students
who
served
100
hot
lunches,
which
is
a
first
for
us.
F
G
B
You
mayor
for
the
update,
we'll
be
moving
on
to
item
number
two
fiscal
year:
2022-23
budget
unresolved
issues,
follow-up
at
the
table.
We
have
jennifer
bruno,
we
got
ben
and
we
have
allison
also
and
sylvia
on
the
screen.
H
H
There
we
go
okay,
so
first
I
am
going
to
give
you
a
kind
of
a
orientation
on
the
motion
sheet.
It's
a
little
different
than
a
lot
of
other
motion
sheets
we
go
through
because
it
covers
all
of
the
things
it's
printed
out
at
your
places.
If
you
want
to
take
a
look
at
it
and
kind
of
follow
along
it's
the
giant
paper
and
it
says
council
motion
sheet
at
the
top
there's
also
an
rda
one
that
I'll
be
going
through
after
this.
H
The
reason
we
do
it
this
way
is
because
there
are
so
many
ordinances
that
are
required
for
budget
adoption,
and
we
got
many
questions
from
the
public
when
we
would
do
it
just
sort
of
the
way
of
the
agenda.
We
would
get
questions
from
the
public
about
what
does
this
ordinance
do?
H
What
does
that
ordinance
do,
and
so
our
intent
with
this
kind
of
motion
sheet
is
to
walk
through
and
have
each
motion
be
read
by
the
council
in
a
way
that
hopefully
makes
it
make
more
sense
to
the
public
and
the
council
so
starting
with
motion
number
one?
Does
everyone
have
their
printouts
kind
of
in
front
of
them?
H
Okay
and
oh-
and
I
should
preface
this
by
saying
all
of
the
supporting
documentation
we
have
now,
including
our
key
changes
sheet,
our
staffing
document,
the
sort
of
final
budget
documents
capture
the
council's
straw
polls
through
all
of
the
discussions
and
as
of
thursday.
So
everything
has
been
updated
since
thursday's
discussion,
thanks
to
the
many
many
different
eyes
that
were
on
those
sheets
to
make
sure
that
we
captured
all
of
the
decisions
correctly.
H
So
we
we
have
all
of
those
documents
set
now
and
that's
why
we
are
so
grateful
that
you
guys
were
able
to
come
to
all
your
conclusions
last
week,
which
sets
us
up
for
a
clean
adoption
tonight,
not
not
too
much
scrambling.
Hopefully
so.
The
first
motion
and
the
way
that
we've
arranged
the
motion
sheet
is
each
numbered
motion,
is
the
yellow
highlighted
line
and
each
of
the
motions
has
red
text
if
it
has
red
text.
H
That
is
what
needs
to
be
actually
verbally
read
by
the
council
and
if
there's
black
text
or
kind
of
supporting
text,
you
don't
need
to
read
that.
So
when
I
review
each
motion,
we'll
sort
of
clarify,
if
you
read
the
text
or
if
you
don't
go
ahead,
cindy.
I
Jennifer,
you
might
want
to
touch
on
if,
if
we
have
council
members
who
want
to
vote
against
some
aspect
of
the
budget,
can
we
help
them
at
the
break
with
what,
when
they
do
that
or
what
motion
they
vote
on
or
that
kind
of
a
thing
and
feel
free
to
mention
it
here
too?
But
we
we
don't
have
the
capacity
to
make
three
options
for
every
one
of
these.
So
if
you,
if
you
do,
have
some
specialty
thing-
and
you
haven't
told
us
yet
tell
us
now
or
at
the
break.
H
Yes,
and-
and
I
guess
I
should
say
too-
the
budget
is
complicated
and
there
are
all
of
these
motions.
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
all
of
these
motions
are
needed
to
have
the
budget
functional
right.
So
if
you
adopt
the
budget,
which
includes
revenues
from
the
consolidated
fee
schedule,
but
then
you
don't
adopt
the
consolidated
fee
schedule.
That
would
be
problematic
right.
H
So
that's
why
it's
so
important
for
us
to
understand
when
and
how
you
may
want
to
vote
differently
than
we've
presented
it
here,
so
that
we
can
make
sure
we're
not
accidentally
creating
a
situation
where
we
have
an
unbalanced
budget,
because
that
would
be
the
ultimate
thing
we
would
want
to
avoid.
H
Okay,
so
motion
number
one
adopts
the
city
budget
except
the
library
and
cip,
which
are
adopted
separately.
We've
done
this
in
years
past,
because
some
council
members
have
wanted
to
vote
differently
on
the
library
than
the
city.
So
this
is
just
continuing
that
practice
and
what
it
does
is
it
adopts
the
actual
budget
of
the
city,
so
revenues
expenditures,
staffing
stuff,
like
that
motion
number
two
adopts
the
library
fund
budget
motion
number
three,
oh,
and
I
should
say
that
the
red
text
should
be
red
red
should
be
red
by
council
members.
You're
welcome.
H
Yeah
thanks,
I'm
sure
I
didn't
come
up
with
that
notion.
Number
three
sets
all
the
tax
rates
for
to
to
fund
what
was
just
adopted
in
the
budget
and
we
do
need
to
read
all
the
rates
I
haven't
revisited
this
with
katie
in
a
couple
years,
but
it
feels
like
when
we've
asked
city
attorneys
in
recent.
H
You
know
in
the
past
because
the
rates
are
not
published
in
the
packets
sort
of
previous
to
this
we
actually
were
working
with
the
state
county
and
finance
up
until
today,
figuring
out
are
these
the
actual
correct
rates
for
our
budget,
it's
better
and
sort
of
belt
and
suspenders
for
the
council
to
actually
read
the
rates,
even
though
it's
very
frustrating-
and
there
are
many
numbers
to
read
so
whoever
wants
to
read
that
just
practice.
H
I
should
add
in
years
past,
council
members
have,
you
know,
agreed
amongst
themselves.
You
know
I'll
do
number
two.
You
do
number
three.
That
kind
of
thing,
so
not
one
council
member,
doesn't
have
to
make
all
the
motions
motion
number
four
relates
to
cip
and
debt
service.
This
is
approving
the
transfer
to
cip
and
it's
approving
some
of
the
budgets
within
that
fund,
so
that
we
can
pay
our
debt
service
bills
and
certain
other
items.
H
This
is
a
good
example
of
the
council
has
to
read
the
red
part,
but
does
not
have
to
read
the
part
in
black.
The
part
in
black
is
informational
so
that
you
guys
know
what
else
besides
debt
service
are
being
approved,
and
if
you
disagree
with
any
of
those,
this
would
be
a
great
time
to
let
us
know,
because
we
would
have
to
adjust
the
numbers.
J
Mr
chair,
so
I
think
there
was
a
there
was
a
question
that
and
I'm
sure,
if
it
answered
or
not
ben
ben
and
I
and
council
member
puy
were
talking
about
two
of
the
items
that
were
not
recommended
at
the
cap.
J
The
cap
recommended
items
and
we
talked
about
potentially
that
we
could.
We
could
add
those
because
they
weren't
they
weren't
huge
ticket
items
and
we
didn't
have
the
money
for
the
type
of
new
projects
on
the
parks
or
creating
a
new
park.
Where
does
that
happen
like
do
we
need
to
decide
now?
Or
can
we
talk
about
when?
When
can
we
talk
about
it?.
I
H
I
think
the
challenge
is,
if
you
needed
to
add
money
to
cip
in
order
to
fund
those
projects,
then
we
probably
should
have
done
that
during
our
unresolved
issues,
discussion
to
make
sure
that
we're
balanced
for
today,
but
if
you
are
finding
that
money
for
those
projects
from
other
sources
like
reallocating
from
other
projects
or
reallocating
from
impact
fees
that
are
not
proposed
in
the
current
budget,
then
we
can
handle
that
in
a
budget
amendment
and
in
cip
in
july.
Okay,.
H
H
H
J
H
It
would
help
for
you
guys
to
talk
about
that
in
in
you
know,
in
any
time
really,
but
also
during
the
cip
discussion
after
this
and
then
and
then
knowing
that
you
guys
will
have
to
fund
those
projects
in
a
budget
amendment
because
it'll
take
a
budget
amendment
to
pull
money
out
of
the
parks
impact
fee
account
rather
than
the
annual
budget.
Does
that
make
sense?
Can.
K
H
Guys
can
do
it.
Thank
you.
Yeah
I
mean
we
try
to,
you,
know,
have
efficiency
and
will
frequently
have
council
added
items
added
to
theirs,
but
there's
nothing
precluding
the
council
from
establishing
their
own
budget.
Amendment.
Okay,.
I
Great,
thank
you,
and
one
thing
you'll
probably
want
to
do
is-
is
share
the
topics
so
that
we
can
work
with
the
administration
to
check
to
be
sure
if
a
hundred
percent
is
covered
by
impact
fees
or
like
only
10
percent
is
covered
by
impact
fees
it
it
varies
depending
on
what
the
nature
of
the
project
is,
so
we
can
help
with
that
right.
Thank
you.
H
And
it
sounds
like
ben
has
already
worked
on
some
of
that
outreach
with
knowing
knowing
what
projects
you're
interested
in,
and
so
the
administration
has.
Preliminary
set.
Preliminarily
said
that
they're
100
eligible,
so
that's,
which
is
great
because
then
that
simplifies
the
funding
source
needs.
H
Okay,
so
then
the
next
item
is
probably
the
item
we
need
to
spend
the
most
time
on
today.
This
is
the
legislative,
intent
and
or
interim
study
items.
The
council
only
needs
to
read
in
the
the
line
in,
and
so
this
is
just
going
through
the
text
of
all
of
the
legislative
intent
statements.
H
We
went
through
most
of
them
last
week,
and
so
I
won't
read
all
the
words
unless
the
chair
wants
me
to,
and
two
intents
have
come
up
since
the
packets
were
published,
and
so
first
maybe
I'll
give
an
opportunity
for
anyone
to
ask
questions
about
the
ones
that
are
on
the
big
motion
sheet
and
then
we
can
switch
to
the
ones
that
were
added,
and
then
I
should
clarify
because
we
didn't
know
if
there
were
going
to
be
any
wording.
Changes
on
this
motion
see
sheet.
H
We
will
have
reprinted
motion
sheets
with
any
intents
that
are
added
and
so
that
they're
all
in
one
place.
B
So
counsel
any
questions
about
the
the
back
of
the
14
by
17
18
by.
J
I
C
And
there
was
a
council
request
last
year
to
then
once
you
see
them
again,
once
they've
been
adopted.
C
H
I
think
that
if
there
were
any
that
were
contradictory
to
previous
legislative
intents,
our
staff
would
have
identified
those
there
aren't
any
that
are
contradictory,
in
fact,
many
or
many
kind
of
build
on
some
previous
legislative
intents
so
yeah.
I
think
that
the
intents
that
we've
recommended
to
leave
open
would
stay
open,
and
then
these
would
be
added
to
that.
K
I'm
going
to
ask
a
question:
I'm
going
to
apologize
for
how
obnoxious
it
is
because
of
the
date,
but
I'm
going
to
assume
that
ben
with
his
encyclopedic
knowledge
already
has
the
answer
to
this.
Do
we
have
an
active
legislative
intent
regarding
native
plants
and
addressing
our
I'm
I'm
thinking,
particularly
in
northwest
quadrant
things,
we're
putting
in
a
lot
I'd
love
it
to
be
urban
canopy
and
not
grass?
A
L
Isn't
the
administration
coming
back
to
us
with
an
update
on
the
is
it.
K
Being
worked
on
elsewhere,
there's
a.
K
L
And
I
believe
yes-
and
I
agree
with
this
100
though,
but
I
believe
that
the
administration
was
working
on
this
to
update
the
parking
strip
since
it's
one
of
the
things
I've
been
pushing
for
on
the
front,
you
know
the
ordinance
that
requires
greenery
and
update
that
to
do
it
correctly.
Obviously,
I
don't
know
if
we
can
require
private
people
to
do
things
in
their
own,
but.
K
B
H
So,
mr
chair,
if
you
want
me
to
share
those
on
the
screen,
I
can
share
those.
I
Okay,
so
council
member
pui
is
working
with
a
contributor
right
now
and
other
council
members
have
had
this
experience.
I
But
our
city
donation
ordinance
was
written
many
years
ago
by
our
office
and
it
is
very
cumbersome
and
it
occasionally
discourages
people
from
contributing,
and
so
the
city
attorney's
office
suggested
that
the
fastest
way
to
resolve
it
is
to
do
an
intent
asking
the
administration
to
come
up
with
some
tracking
taking
the
best
parts
of
the
ordinance
which
are
the
tracking
pieces
and
ask
the
administration
if
they
would
work
on
that,
and
then
the
administration
and
asking
the
administration
and
the
attorney's
office
to
work
together
to
come
up
with
a
replacement
ordinance.
I
L
I
H
Hey
so
we'll
add
that,
to
we'll
add
that
one
to
the
big
motion
sheet
that
we'll
print
out
for
the
seven
o'clock
meeting
the
next
additional
legislative
intent
is
a
rotating
auditing
of
each
city
department.
H
This
is
kind
of
formalizing,
a
sort
of
informal
discussion
that
the
council
had
during
unresolved
issues.
You
decided
not
to
add
money
to
the
budget,
because
the
council
office
budget
already
includes
an
auditing
line
item.
That's
the
role
of
the
council
and
we
do
audits
all
the
time
for
different
specific
reasons.
We
just
recently
completed
an
audit
of
the
building
services
department-
we've
done
ones
recently
on
golf
and
on
planning,
and
so
it
would
just
be
sort
of
formalizing
the
intent
of
the
council
to
do
that
intentionally.
J
And
I
want
to
say
a
few
words
about
it.
I
think
that
was
what
my
intent
was
last
week
when
I
was
talking
about
that.
It
is
our
job
to
look
at
all
all
pockets
of
money
in
the
city,
the
budget
intentionally
thoroughly,
so
that
we
understand
where
we're
standing.
We
understand.
J
If
you
know
we,
we
truly
need
more
taxes
or
more
fees
or
anything
that
we
need
to
to
serve
the
public,
and
I
think
this
is
what
having
an
audit
an
outside
party
audit
to
help
us
understand
where
we're
at
makes
me
comfortable
moving
forward
with
budgets
year
after
year,
where
I
know
we
will
be
looking
deeper
because
that's
our
job.
We
need
to
understand
the
system
better
and
it's
not
you
know
I
want
to
steer
away
from
maybe
a
misunders.
J
You
know
miss
speaking
last
week
of
myself
saying
that
I
didn't
get
enough
information
from
steph.
I
was
not
criticizing
the
stuff.
I
was
in
a
way
criticizing
the
system
like
maybe
we
need
to
look
deeper
as
a
system,
and
we
I
don't,
I
didn't
feel
like
we
were
doing
that
for
a
while
now,
so
this
would
make
me
a
little
bit
more
comfortable
if
the
rest
of
the
council
will
feel
will
be
inclined
to
say
yes
to
this,
which.
H
N
So
I
think
this
is
great.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
for
my
understanding,
but
also
the
public's.
It's
not
like
the
council
has
stopped
doing
auditing
right.
It's
just
that.
We've
done
it,
maybe
on
a
more
ad
hoc
basis
or
as
a
needed
basis,
and
this
intent
would
be
to
do
it
more
regularly
on
some
type
of
a
schedule.
Is
that.
I
Is
and
the
council
has
gone
off
and
on
about
how
they
do
their
audits
based
on
need-
and
this
is
this
is
just
saying-
we're
going
to
rotate
through
all
of
the
departments,
and
all
of
this
is
in
addition
to
the.
D
I
Financial
audit
that
the
council
is
in
charge
of,
and
that
is
completed
by
an
outside
accounting
firm
every
year
and
filed
officially
with
the
state.
K
I
It's
always
up
to
the
council
and
a
council
can't
bind
a
future
council
so
you're,
just
expressing
your
intent
that
this
is
the
path
that
you
want
us
to
go
on
and
telling
us
some
of
the
things
that
you
want.
We
tried
in
the
language
that
was
suggested
by
council
of
aldemaros.
To
be
sure,
we
were
capturing
some
of
the
other
issues
that
have
been
raised
by
council
members
like
the
metrics.
I
I
B
Just
kind
of
get
a
you
know
the
pulse
on
this
is
a
thumbs
up
for
this.
I
have
a.
E
Question
still
so,
who
will
pay
for
the
these
audits?
We
will
pay.
H
I
would
also
clarify
that,
because
we
have
auditing
firms
on
contract,
we
have
standing
contracts
with
two
auditing
firms.
We
are
able
to
encumber
money
to
from
those
contracts,
so
each
year
we've
been
building
up
money
in
those
encumbrances
to
respond
to
different
things
that
come
up
and
actually
that's
how
we
ended
up
paying
for
the
audit
of
the
police
department
without
having
to
come
back
to
you
guys
for
a
budget.
Amendment
is
because
we
had
some
money
saved
there.
E
Okay
and
then
my
second
question
is:
is
there
what
were
the
reasons
that
previous
councils
went
away
from
doing
this
from
doing
auditing
in
this
particular?
It.
I
D
I
Fire
was
longer
ago
yeah,
but
it's
interesting
because
public
public
utilities
and
other
departments
still
occasionally
refer
to
the
findings
of
the
council
audits.
So
we've
had
some
very
solid
audits
and
then
the
police
that
was
the
last
one
and
there's
a
lot
more
work
that
can
be
done
in
association
with
that.
I
So
it's
more
that
you
just
went
on
an
as
needed
basis
as
so,
okay
and-
and
there
have
been
times
when
one
council
might
suggest
an
audit
as
part
of
the
budget
and
others
would
say
yeah
it
does-
that
doesn't
really
rise
to
the
level
that
I
feel
like.
We
need
an
audit,
so
so
there's
been
discussion,
but
not
decisions
except
on
the
building
services
and
police
in
the
most
recent
years.
E
L
No,
I
just
want
to
you
know.
Obviously,
finding
efficiencies
is
important
to
you
know.
We
need
to
always
be
striving
for
that.
I
also
you
know,
and
we
need
to
find
you
know
if
there
are
inefficiencies
and
and
because
we
need
to
be
responsible
with
with
the
public
money
and
the
public
trust,
and
but
I
also
want
to
just
say-
and
you
know
this
is-
this-
was
my
first
budget
and
I
felt
like
the
support
of
the
consul
staff,
and
you
know
the
questions
that
the
administration
answered
for
us.
L
We,
we
did
go
in
depth,
we
did
go
in
depth
in
trying
to
find
efficiencies.
We
were
trying
to
find
savings
and
we
did
find
some
things
that
the
council
agree,
and
I
believe
that
this
is
good
practice
and
I
support
this,
but
I
I
think
it
is.
I
think
we
have
fulfill
our
role
as
far
as
going
in
depth
into
this
budget
and
and
trying
to
balance
what
the
the
neighbors
and
the
constituencies
of
salt
lake
city
are
asking
at
the
same
time.
We
should
always
be
looking
at
this,
and
I
support
this
wholeheartedly.
E
Thank
you.
So
we
already
have
the
we
have
the
waste
reporting
website
or
third
party
right.
I
There
are
all
kinds
of
tools
that
the
council
has
at
their
disposal
that
are
that
operate
automatically,
and
that's
one
that
the
council
funded
several
years
ago
and
it
it
functions.
The
the
there's,
a
team
of
five
people
and
our
office
is
on
that
the
team
with
the
city
attorney's
office
and
finance
in
the
mayor's
office
to
vet
all
of
the
items
that
come
in
through
that,
and
so
we
get
those
individually
and
they're
investigated
or
they're
referred
to
an
outside
agency.
I
Usually
I'd
say
more
often
than
not
they're
things
that
people
could
use
help
with
with
another
governmental
entity
or
disputes
that
are
more
private.
But
we
have
had
some
that
relate
to
city
efficiencies
and
that
type
of
a
thing.
So
that's
one
tool.
Another
tool
is
just
your
general
oversight
and
we
try
in
the
staff
reports
to
raise
any
issues
that
come
up
relating
to
that,
and
then
there
are
times
when
the
council
members
hear
questions
from
constituents
or
comments
and
that
type
of
a
thing
and
so
on
a
daily
basis.
I
The
other
thing
that
we
implemented
a
couple
of
years
ago
is
the
a
pretty
darn
detailed
list
of
questions
that
is
sent
out
to
the
departments
before
the
budget
is
sent
to
us,
and
it
was
it's
a
compilation
of
all
the
types
of
questions
that
council
members
have
typically
asked,
and
it's
like
what
service
level
is
increasing?
What
service
level
is
decreasing?
I
What
what
position
was
added?
What
you
know
pretty
much
everything
you
could
think
of
that
you
would
want
to
know
in
relation
to
overseeing
a
budget,
is
asked
in
advance
and
answered
by
the
departments,
and
the
other
thing
is
that,
each
time
when
the
council
is
talking
about
issues
and
and
asking
questions
here
in
the
meeting,
our
staff
writes
them
down.
The
administration
writes
them
down,
they
compare
notes
later
to
be
sure,
they've
captured
everything,
and
then
the
administration
gives
answers
back
in
writing.
I
So
there's
a
a
pretty
deep
level
of
administ
of
oversight,
legislative
oversight.
Much
more
so
than
most
cities,
but
you
know
we
can
always
do
better,
and
the
audit
is
one
more
tool
and.
H
If
I
could
add
cindy,
I
think
that
what
what
an
outside
audit
might
do,
in
addition
to
all
of
the
things
that
cindy
just
mentioned,
is
typically
the
auditors
will
come
with
some
sort
of
national
best
practice
knowledge.
They
will
frequently
contract
with
someone
who
is
an
expert
in
building
services
or
someone
who's.
An
expert
in
you
know
whatever
field
we're
asking
them
to
look
at.
H
They
typically
have
kind
of
a
vast
network
of
former
government
employees
who
are
who
know
you
know
which
places
to
look
in
different
cities,
and
so
I
think
that
that's
kind
of
the
added
value
of
an
audit
is
not
just
the
it's
not
just
looking
at
how
salt
lake
city
does
things.
It's
looking
at
how
other
cities
might
do
things.
E
Okay,
yeah,
I
think
it's
sorry
were
you
going
to
say
something
more.
E
Okay,
just
to
quickly,
then
I
don't
have
another
question
but,
as
alejandro
said
like
I'm,
I
support
this
because
you
know
I
believe
that
we
should
be
good
stewards
of
the
public's
money
and-
and
we
should
know
about
if
there
is
waste
or
anything
occurring.
But
you
know
I
I
would
offer
this
support
along
with
the
message
that
I've
always
felt
like
when
we
ask
for
explanations
about
why
something
did
or
didn't
happen
or
anything.
E
I
feel
like
we've
already
got
always
gotten
very
good
answers,
and
so
I
don't
want
city,
employees
or
the
public
to
think
that
this
is
because
there
there's
like
some
sort
of
suspicion
or
some
sort
of
concern
that
that
we're
not
being
given
the
correct
information.
I
don't
have
that
concern
personally
and
I
feel
like
not
just
our
council
staff,
but
our
city
employees
go
above
and
beyond,
to
try
to
give
that
information
so
but
yeah.
I
think
it's.
It's
also
good
to
have
this
this
this
information
in
place.
E
I
And
I
should
disclose
one
thing,
and
that
is
that
it's
entirely
possible
that
you
will
have
audits
that
come
back
and
say
you
are
not
spending
enough
in
this
area.
So
like
like
the
accounting
program
for
the
city,
that
was
a
big
investment
and
it
will
save
money.
So
it's
working
smarter.
M
M
Thank
you.
So
I
fully
understand
and
appreciate
the
benefit
of
audits
that
are
deeper
like
going
through.
The
police
audit
was
amazing,
I
don't
understand.
Maybe
somebody
could
help
me
of
why
we
need
this
legislative
intent
instead
of
going
back
to
when
needed,
because
I
think
we're
all
really
pretty
good
at
saying.
I
am
concerned
about
a
certain
department
or
a
certain
division,
or
I
feel
like
I
like
this
is
happening
and
to
cindy's
point.
M
That's
like
in
some
ways,
sort
of
how
this
logistically
seems
to
appear,
and
I
don't
understand
why
we
don't
just
say
yeah
when
there's
a
concern
like,
for
example,
the
police
or,
if
can
or
hand
or
whoever
that
we
say
like
we
do
with
everything
else.
I
have
three
or
four
council
members
that
are
concerned
about
this.
Therefore,
I
have
the
votes,
therefore,
we're
spending
money
on
doing
an
audit.
I
And-
and
you
can
entirely
absolutely
do
it
that
way-
or
this
way,
just
mechanically
the
departments
if
they
have
ideas
of
efficiency
or
they
have
things
that
they
need
to
invest
in
or
that
type
of
a
thing
they
take
that
to
the
mayor.
The
mayor
puts
it
in
her
budget
or
they
make
a
recommendation
for
an
ordinance
change
or
that
type
of
thing
so
they're
free
to
do
that,
and
we
want
to
support
them
in
that
at
all
times.
I
First
of
all,
a
draft
schedule
that
you
could
change
and
then
a
scope
for
for
each
of
the
studies,
so
to
speak,
because
they're
really
more
studies,
they're,
not
they're,
not
an
audit
in
a
financial
monitoring
sense,
but
they're
they're,
more
best
practice
studies
bring
you
a
scope,
and
then
you
may
look
at
it
and
say
you
know
what
this
is:
a
nothing
burger.
There's
no
they've
just
come
to
us
with
all
kinds
of
ordinance
changes,
they've,
just
updated
everything.
We
don't
need
to
do
this
department.
K
The
other
reason
I'm
in
support
of
this
regularly
scheduled
is
number
one.
It
protects
employees
from
any
targeting.
If,
if
someone
particular
in
particular
annoys
the
council,
and
then
we
ask
for
an
audit,
you
know
it
could
be
perceived
as
like
us
trying
to
retaliate
or
things
like
that.
I
like
the
predictability
of
a
schedule
because
it
actually
provides
for
equity
in
this
practice,
but
the
other
thing
for
me.
K
And
this
to
me
feels
like
one
of
those
ways
we
safeguard
passing
on
that
same
good
standing
to
the
next
generation
that
comes
behind
us.
I
am
all
for
exempting,
but
I'd
rather
opt
out
than
have
to
opt
in
it
feels
like
we
have
to
be
too
omniscient
to
opt
in
to
the
all
of
the
things
that
we
potentially
I
know
I
have
missed
a
million
things
during
this
budget
season
has
shown
me
the
limits
of
my
abilities,
the
regularity
of
this
safeguards
in
some
ways
against
our
lack
of
omniscience.
B
D
B
B
To
one
with
amy
fowler
voting,
no
hey,
councilmember,
fowler,
okay,
so.
H
Back
to
the
motion
sheet:
are
there
any
other
questions
on
any
of
the
other
ones
that
were
part
of
the
big
sheet
before.
J
J
H
We
did
and
then
we've
had
a
few
hiccups
in
the
last
year,
and
so
I
think
this
is
maybe
and
I
feel
free
to
jump
in
anyone
who
has
more
information.
But
I
think
it's
an
intent
to
resurrect
those
conversations,
because
the
people
who
are
involved
in
that
initial
conversation
have
a
lot.
There's
been
turnover
in
some
in
some
cases
and
so
just
kind
of
reaffirming
that
work.
J
H
M
M
Given
the
discussion
that
we
had
earlier
today
with
rda,
I
would
propose
that,
if
we're
having
a
legislative
intent
for
role,
clarity
for
hand
in
rda
for
housing
needs
that
we
add
the
commercial
development
or
whatever
the
edlf
and
the
the
sort
of
commercial
assistance
programs,
because
we
did
discuss
that
there
needed
to
be
some
sort
of
role.
Clarity
between
those
two.
H
J
J
H
E
L
I
have
a
little
thought
on
j
water
usage
by
the
city
and
it
is
with
the
last
three
words
on
the
first
sentence
in
future
projects
I
feel
like.
I
will
like
to
delete
that.
So
it
reads:
it
isn't
in
a
item.
H
L
Okay,
sorry,
it
is
an
internally
console
to
us
administration,
to
evaluate
water
usage
by
the
city
and
make
recommendations
for
water
conservation-
and
I
I
I
don't
know-
maybe
I'm
overthinking
this
and
I
tend
to
do
that
all
the
time.
It's
a
big
problem
but
future
projects,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
looking
into
current
parks
and
you
know.
Hopefully
we
just
do
it
with
everything
that
we
are
doing
already.
B
The
idea
was
that
they
they're
looking
at
current
water
usages
in
current
areas
objects.
They
could
have
construed
that
as
mean
future
projects,
but
I
understand
your
point
of
that
you're
thinking
of
new
projects,
they're
thinking
of
what's
currently
out
there,
but
I
think,
but
I
think
you're
eliminating
those
words
is
probably
good
yeah.
It
gives
you
some.
H
H
H
H
And
we're
doing
this
in
conjunction
with
the
city
unresolved
issues,
because
the
rda
is
a
department
of
the
city
and
we
didn't
have
anything
on
the
rda
agenda
to
talk
budget
earlier
today.
So
but
you
will
convene
separately
as
the
rda
at
seven
o'clock
and
and
refer
to
this
motion
sheet.
So
the
first
motion
adopts
the
rda
budget
with
the
key
changes,
as
shown
the
main
change
this
year
was
the
150
000
for
open
streets
being
transferred
to
the
general
fund.
H
Then
the
second
motion
adopts
legislative
intents
related
to
the
rda.
So
I
believe
these
were
sent
to
the
council
via
email,
and
I
guess
I'll
just
throw
it
out.
If
anyone
has
questions
about
them,.
H
And
the
the
intents
for
the
rda
function
exactly
like
the
intents
for
the
council,
which
is
that
they
are
not
binding,
they're
representative
of
a
sort
of
hope
that
the
council
slash
board
has
and
that
the
rda
staff
will
come
back
and
sort
of
report
on
the
various
topics.
D
M
M
On
the
legislative
intent
it
feels
to
me,
I
mean
I
understand,
I
think
the
want
and
desire
to
maximize
opportunities
for
meaningful
involvement
for
a
wide
array
of
developers
and
professionals.
M
It
feels
like
micro
managing
when
we
are
asking
to
look
at
every
rfp
rfq
a
request
for
master
developer
and
like
that
line
right,
there
feels
a
little
micro
managing
in
the
sense
that
I
think
we're
almost
overstepping
our
roles
as
the
executive
branch
and
moving
into
the
or
the
legislative
branch
of
moving
into
the
administrative
branch,
and
I
I
have
concerns
with
that.
M
For
me
I
would
say
you
know,
collaborate
to
prioritize
equity
and
inclusion
in
the
board's
policy
oversight
and
budget
decisions.
I
mean
that
to
me
is
a
policy
question
which
we
have
created
a
policy
and
can
continue
to
discuss
policies
and
then
say
in
doing
so
prior
to
releasing
that
like.
That
is
the
line
I
would
take
out
and
then
just
start
at
the
board
request:
options
from
the
city
administration,
rda
staff
to
maximize
opportunities
for
meaningful
involvement,
dot,
dot,
dot
dot.
But
that
is
my
concern.
M
It
does
seem
a
little
that
way
again.
I
recognize
why
we
want
it
in
the
sense
that
maybe
you
know.
M
M
We've
said
what
our
intent
is
for
that,
like
you
know,
a
developer
came
to
us.
We
get
this
all
the
time
a
developer
came
to
us
and
there's
this
opportunity
to
partner
with
them-
and
we
say
well
here,
are
all
of
our
concerns,
and
here
is
the
policy
that
we
want
to
follow
and
here's
what
this
project
should
have
if
we're
going
to
support
it
and
they
go
out
and
I
believe,
do
a
very
good
job
at
saying.
M
Okay,
I
think
we've
crafted
this
to
meet
that
proposal
and
the
other
thing
is
before,
and
I
recognize
that
it
causes
a
lot
of
damage
if
we
get
too
far
into
the
process.
But
if
the
proposals
that
answer
the
rfps
come
back
to
us,
we
still
get
a
say
at
whether
we're
going
forward
with
those
in
some
ways
right,
and
so
it
just
seems
like
at
some
point.
H
D
N
Don't
necessarily
disagree
with
that,
but
I'm
not
clear
on
where
we
actually
in
our
current
policies
have
that
touch
point
with
development,
because
if
an
rfp
goes
out
that
we
had
no
say
in
creating
and
no
way
of
helping
wordsmith
and
to
your
point,
that
might
may
be
micromanaging.
But
if
that
goes
out
and
it
is
written
in
a
way
that
the
outcome
is
going
to
be
something
that
we
don't
agree
with.
Where
is
our?
Do
we
just
say?
N
No
we're
not
going
to
do
that
or
we
we
only
don't
the
only
point
that
we
can
do
that
is
after
the
developer
has
been
selected
by
whatever
committee
the
rda
staff
has
put
together
and
they
and
if
they
come
to
us
for
a
land
write-down
or
something
equivalent,
would
be
the
only
time
that
we
have
to
approve
that.
So
sometimes.
H
Prior
to
releasing
an
rfp,
they
will
need
funding
for
something
like
I'm
thinking
like
the
japan
town
rfp
right
like
that
needed
money,
I
think
we
did
wordsmith.
H
And
so
because
it
had
a
direct
budget
tie.
That
was
what
the
council
of
the
board
used
to
say.
I
don't
feel
comfortable
spending
this
money
unless
it
accomplishes
this
this
and
this,
and
that
was
the
touch
point-
that's
not
always
the
case,
especially
with
land.
I
think
land
is
the
tricky
one
where
we
we
just
always
end
up
in
that
back
and
forth
of.
M
Again,
I
understand
the
the
reason
that
we
want
this
there,
but
I
also
think
in
so
many
ways
this
is
a
case-by-case
thing
and
a
project
by
project
type
of
thing.
So,
for
example,
for
me,
I
envision
a
briefing
on
a
proposal
of
an
area
right
and
you
us
they.
They
brief
us
on
proposals
or
we've.
You
know
this
is
it
hasn't
gone
out
to
rfp.
M
I
think
that
it
should
be
encouraged
that
if
there's
continued
concerns
from
one
of
us
as
board
members,
then
we
go.
We
ask
for
that
communication
and
wordsmith
without
without
requiring
that
it
come
here
in
wordsmith,
because
to
jen's
point
of
wordsmithing,
japan
town,
I
feel
like
it
probably
took
us.
M
It
felt
like
six
months
to
even
get
that
rfp
on
the
ground,
because
you
have
eight,
you
have
seven
people
plus
staff
trying
to
wordsmith
what
everybody's
intentions
are
and
so
for
me,
I'm
just
trying
to
capture
the
intent
of
what
I
think
that
you're
feeling
without
making
it
so
restrictive
that
we're,
like
kind
of
in
some
ways,
cutting
off
our
nose.
Despite
our
our
face
right
but
and
maybe
there's
some
other.
M
Maybe
we
need
to
sit
and
wordsmith
that
legislative
intent
to
really
capture
what
I
think
you're
saying
without
necessarily
in
my
opinion
burdening
because
I
don't
want
to
vote
no,
I
mean
I
will
vote
no
on
this
if
it
stays
this
way
because
I
just
don't
agree
with
it
and
but
but
I
don't,
I
don't
disagree
with
the
intent
necessarily
behind
it.
I
disagree
with
how
far-reaching
it's
going
for
me
right
now.
I
As
I'm
listening
to
the
dialogue
here,
I
don't
know
if
this
would
work
or
not,
but
we
already
have
the
resolution
that
we
apply
to
all
kinds
of
city
plans
and
big
projects
where
we,
the
council,
has
asked
that
the
departments
bring
you
a
scope
of
what
they're
doing
so
that
you
can
have
some
input
on
that.
So
you
can
see
if
it
has.
I
If
there
are
things
you
want
to
add
or
suggest,
or
that
type
of
thing
they're
not
obligated
to
take
your
suggestions,
but
it
is,
it
is
a
tool
they
don't
have
to
wait
for
you.
If,
if
we
don't
have
time
for
it
on
the
agenda,
they
can
just
move
on.
But
there
are
like
three
check-in
points
or
something
on
on
the
bigger
projects,
and
I
think
rda
sometimes
does
largely
the
same
thing,
but
maybe
we
could
work
with
rda
to
to
formalize
that
a
little
bit
and
tailor
it
a
little
bit
to
rda.
D
B
J
I
feel
like
not
telling
or
not
setting
the
expectation
to
the
developers
and
to
staff
that
this
is
what
we
want
to
do
and
want
to
see
when
you
put
rf
peace
now
it
leads
to
wordsmithing
later
and
going
back
and
forth
about
what
we
wanted
for
the
project
and
how
we
want
it
to
read
and
so
to
me
this
is
setting
that
expectation
that,
from
now
on,
this
is
what
we
would
like
to
see
when
when
we
have
rfp
opportunities
out
there,
I
know
the
city
did
something
cool
like
that
a
few
years
ago,
and
we
most
of
us
weren't
here,
maybe
amy
and
chris
you
were
here
with
the
avia
apartment
and
the
maya
property,
the
old
barnes
building
right
here,
where
I
remember
the
rfp,
it
wasn't.
J
The
whole
process
wasn't
perfect,
but
I
remember
the
rfp
saying
we
need
a
non-profit
group.
We
need
a
development
group,
we
need
the
tenants
should
so
they
have
affordable
housing,
so
they
set
the
ami
and
also
we
need
to
support
minority-owned
businesses.
So
you
better
provide
all
of
this.
J
D
M
Know
we
need
to
probably
need
to
move
on,
but
council
remember
who
we
just
came
up
with
a
great
idea
that
might
accomplish
in
his
word
quick
wordsmithing
is
so
that
first
sentence
says
it
is
the
intent
of
the
rda
board
to
continue
to
collaborate
with
the
administration
and
prioritize
equity
and
inclusion
in
the
board's
policy
oversight
and
budget
decision.
Excuse
me
it
would
say,
oversight,
comment,
budget
decisions,
comma
and
any
rfp
rfqs
or
requests
for
master
developers
that
may
be
whatever
period.
H
The
board
requests
options
from
the
city,
administration
and
rda
staff
to
maximize
opportunities
for
meaningful
involvement
for
a
wide
array
of
developers
and
professionals.
Further,
it
is
the
intent
of
the
board
to
authorize
funding
for
projects
that
support
walkability
are
built
at
a
scale
to
encourage
human
interaction
and
include
architectural
interest
and
variety.
B
How
does
that
sound
for
thumbs
up
for
the
change?
Thank.
H
M
Members
like,
I
have
a
full-time
job,
and
many
of
you
also
have
a
full-time
job,
but
we
have
to
so
if
we
have
to
either
get
information
in
small
groups
and
set
up
a
new
meeting
or
wait
until
we're
all
sitting
here
for
a
board
meeting
to
hear
of
an
opportunity,
because
they
can't
even
start
a
conversation
until
they
talk
to
us.
That
seems
like
we're
cutting
ourselves
off
at
the
knees
for
potential
opportunities.
I
can
see
saying
as
soon
as
x
happens.
M
You
have
to
come
back
to
the
board
or
as
soon
as
my
favorite
word
in
law
as
soon
as
practicable,
you
come
back
to
the
board
and
give
this
information,
but
just
saying
before
anything
even
starts,
you
have
to
come
to
the
board.
Really.
I
think
we
are
again
sort
of
throwing
the
baby
out
with
the
bathwater
in
some
ways
of
of
not
maybe
missing
opportunities
that
could
be
there.
B
And
I
agree
with
your
concern
because
we
could
end
up
again
just
clogging
up
the
drain
because
we're
waiting
for
something
in
advance
and
it's
just
going
to
also
clog
up
our
emails
and
we're
not
going
to
even
probably
look
at
it.
Because
it's
too
much.
J
So
I
I
don't
have
any
concern
with
that
change.
I
think
the
intent
of
that
legislative
intent
was
that
sometimes
some
board
members,
including
myself,
feel
like
the
talks
are
so
in
advance
with
certain
development
with
certain
area
plans
that
it's
almost
that
this.
J
Sometimes
it
feels
like
the
staff
and
the
public
feels
like
it's
a
given
that
the
world
is
going
that
direction
and
that's
what
the
world
wants
to
do
and
and
then
we're
put
in
a
position
where
we
are
the
bad
guys
or
that
you
know
we
that
we
didn't
know
what's
going
on
and
how
come
you
don't?
You
can
approve
that
project?
Why
are
you
not
looking
at
that?
Because
it's
a
great
idea-
and
we
didn't
really
have
a
discussion
nor
have
given
direction
to
like
absolutely
yeah
go
for
this.
You
know
we.
J
It
is
the
worst
decision
that
we
love
this
project
and
you
should
keep
the
negotiation
negotiations
going
forward
whatever
that
is,
and
so
that's
the
intent
of
this
to
kind
of
say,
hey.
We
we
want
to
give
a
little
more
direction
before
you
go
full
on
and
then
everybody
expects
us
to
do
it
when
maybe
we
didn't
want
to
do
it
at
all
so
and
I'm
not
sure
how
to
word
smith
that
if
the
attorneys
feel
like
how
it's
written
will
prevent
that,
then
let's
do
it
I'll
vote
for
it
with
the
changes.
B
Because
I
have,
I
have
an
issue
with,
I
think
you
know
this
is
like
on
the
tuesday
after
the
board
meeting
and
they're
looking
for
a
straw
poll
and
we
have
another
month.
I
mean
that's
a
lot
of
time
for
discussions
to
occur
that
they're
waiting
for
us
to
to
give
them
a
thumbs
up
on
something.
So
I
think
that
the
wording
is
fluid
and
dynamic
there
to
allow
them.
B
D
B
B
Let's,
let's
go
with
a
straw
poll
here,
oh
yeah,
we
got,
we
got
darren.
Oh
yeah,
we
got
seven
gen
sorry!
I
wait.
B
And
so
I
think
well
I'll,
give
everybody
two
seconds
to
read
a
and
d
two
seconds,
two
actually
three
one.
D
H
B
I
also
want
to
thank
the
council
for
the
comments.
H
Lba,
you
can
keep
and
the
city
like
the
bond
list,
the
list
of
bond
projects
and
cip
that
you
can
keep
as
well.
B
Okay,
we're
moving
on
to
item
number
nice
work.
Council
item
number
three
fiscal
year:
20
22
to
23
budget
capital,
improvement
program,
overflow
follow-up,
we're
giving
ourselves
we're
45
minutes
late
at
this
point
and
we're
giving
ourselves
we
have
an
hour
on
this,
but
we
are
45
minutes
late
at
this
point.
B
So
just
just
a
broad
picture
for
the
discussion
at
this
point,
ben,
oh
and
at
the
table
we
got
ben.
We
have
blake,
I
think,
blake's,
probably
on
the
screen.
I
thought
did
I
see.
O
O
O
If
it
doesn't
say
eligible,
it's
ineligible,
we
thought
it'd
be
easier
to
just
list
the
eligible
ones.
The
other
change
is
in
the
impact
fees
column.
This
is
third
from
the
right
and
the
sales
tax
bond
and
the
geo
bond
were
reviewed
for
impact
fee
eligibility
and,
as
you
can
see,
several
of
the
projects
are
a
hundred
percent
eligible
and
then
two
of
them
are
partially
eligible.
O
A
quick
reminder
on
legal
deadlines
to
decide
the
sales
tax
bond
has
no
legal
deadline,
so
the
council
can
modify
add
remove
projects
whenever
you
feel
comfortable
doing
so.
The
geo
bond
does
have
a
legal
deadline
75
days
before
the
election,
so
for
the
current
council
meeting
schedule
that
would
be
august.
16Th
is
the
last
regularly
scheduled
meeting
to
decide.
O
There
is
a
benefit
to
choosing
the
projects
for
the
geo
bond
and
the
dollar
amounts
sooner.
So
there
would
be
more
time
to
educate
the
public
about
the
proposal
and
the
specifics
and
then
for
cip.
The
annual
deadline
is
september,
1st,
based
on
state
law
and
so
august.
16Th
would
also
be
the
deadline
for
cip
this
year.
B
B
Correct,
can
I
I
just
unless
there's
any
other
questions,
I
was
going
to
go
back
to
the
impact
fees,
so
the
impact
fees
are
eligible
for
a
number
of
the
geo
bonds
and
the
partial
for
the
600
north
corridor
and
those
are
sitting
in
the
impact
fee.
At
this
moment,
they're
unallocated.
O
Yeah,
correct
impact
fees
are
one-time,
the
current
available
to
spend
balances
are
in
the
staff
report.
I
think
it's
page
six
right,
and
one
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is
when
you
see
that
there's
14
million
dollars
of
parks
impact
fees
available
to
spend
that
is
true,
but
keep
in
mind.
The
mayor
is
recommending
spending
1.8
million
of
the
14
million
in
her
recommendations.
B
Actually
so,
whatever
12.2,
whatever.
O
B
D
K
O
K
O
Mr
chair,
if
there's
no
other
questions
about
the
impact
fees
or
arpa,
I
think
where
the
discussion
left
off
last
time
was.
If
council
members
were
comfortable
with
the
proposed
funding
level
of
the
go
bond
and
the
sales
tax
bond,
and
if
there
were
projects
that
council
members
wanted
to
move
between
the
three
different
funding
sources.
O
M
Thanks,
I
appreciate
this
ben
and
the
fact
of
like
having
the
discussions
of
maybe
moving
projects
and
changing
things
around.
I
would
ask
that
we
table
it
that,
like
in-depth
conversation
to
a
future
council
meeting
because
we've
I
mean
it
kind
of
feels
like
brains,
are
fried
from
budget
discussions
and
we're
going
to
have
follow-ups
in
july,
follow
up
in
august
to
actually
like
dig
deep,
as
we
do
every
year
with
our
cip
to
dig
deep
into
which
projects
we
want
funded.
M
All
the
council
members
end
up
lobbying
each
other
to
get
one
funded
over
another
or
move
money
here
there.
So
I
now,
instead
of
like
just
cip,
it
sort
of
seems
like
we're
doing
cip,
arpa
geo
and
sales
tax
in
all
all
four
of
those
buckets
in
that
discussion.
So
I
would
ask
that
we
not
get
into
depth
tonight
on
any
of
those
projects.
That's
just
for
me,
because
we've
done
a
lot
of
budgeting.
K
K
J
I
wanna,
I
have
a
question
about
that
too
amy
about
this.
It
looks
like
there's
a
bunch
of
eligible
arpa
stuff.
So
if
we
were
to
ask
the
voters
on
the
go
bond
like
the
voters
after
today
right
if
we
passed
ss,
then
the
voters
will
vote
on.
I
thought
it
was
on
the
ballot
for
one.
M
Either
not
until
november
or
until
november,
we
have
to
decide
which
projects
are
in
the
go
bond
by
august
15,
and
so
at
that
point,
if
there
were
things
that
were
arpa
eligible,
that
we
wanted
to
take
out
of
the
geo
bond
and
put
use
arpa
money
for
or
visa
versa,
that
there's
things
on
the
arpa
list
that
we
want
to
put
in
geo
whatever
right.
Okay,
we
still
have
that's.
M
Why
to
me
like
tabling
that
the
the
in-depth
in
the
weeds
discussion
today
kind
of
makes
sense
as
far
as
like
brain
capacity,
but
to
to
council
member
peter
eschler's
point.
If
we
want
to
move
anything
that
we
put
in
the
general
fund
into
cip,
we
could
do
that
today
or
we
could
wait
and
put
it.
Do
it
in
a
budget
amendment
later
on
right.
B
K
E
A
E
Theoretically,
we
want
that
to
pass
and
if
we
don't
give
people
enough
time,
this
bond
isn't
going
to
pass
and
we've
seen
that
happen
before
and
if
we
build
all
these
plans
around
the
the
public
passing
the
go
bond,
but
we
don't
give
them
enough
time
to
learn
about.
What's
in
it,
then
we're
going
to
be
in
trouble.
E
The
other
thing
is
we,
as
council
members,
once
we
put
a
bond
on
a
ballot,
are
limited
in
the
amount
of
advocacy
we
can't
advocate
for
it
once
we
put
it
on
the
ballot,
we
have
to
have
other
right
or
is
it?
Is
it
once
we
put
on
the
ballot
or
is
it
within
a
certain
number
of
days
of
the
elect
of
the
election.
I
One
once
it's
officially
once
you've
voted
and-
and
you
always
want
to
limit
yourself
before
that-
to
education,
so
you're,
providing
public
information
right.
E
We
can
we
can.
We
can
always
provide
education,
but
in
terms
of
promoting
it
like
like,
we
are
limited
and
how
we
can
do
that.
We
need
to
rely
on
others
to
promote
it
and
in
order
for
them
to
do
it,
we
need
to
decide
faster.
So
if
people
are
thinking
about
making
changes
to
the
geo
bond
and
I'm
like
seriously,
if
you
seriously
are
thinking
about
making
any
changes,
I
would
like
to
know
right
now.
M
M
E
So
time,
timing-
wise
though
I
just
think
the
bigger
concern
is
that
if
we
don't
like
we're,
we
are
setting
ourselves
up
for
failure
and
I
mean
obviously,
like
you
know,
we
can't
force
anybody
to
say
the
changes
that
you
want
to
make
tonight.
I'm
not
trying
to
suggest
that
but
like
if
people
are
thinking
about
things,
I
think
we
need
to
start
talking
about
them
now,
like
we
can't
put
this,
we
can't
make
our
decisions
in
end
of
july
and
august.
I'd.
K
L
And
I
think
one
week
maybe
I
mean
we
have
a
council
next
week
I
mean
we.
Can
we
don't
but
three
weeks
out?
Okay,
that's
your
point!
Yeah,
okay
and
I
I
already
been
making
you
know-
make
a
made
a
list
on
this,
but
I
I
also
don't
want
to
push
just
present
that
if
other
people
are
not
ready
for
that,
so
maybe
small
group
meetings
starting
this
week,
I'm
very
open
to
that.
M
I
agree
too,
and
that
is
part
of
it
is
that
it's
sort
of
all
combined
for
me,
so
I'm
fine
straw
polling.
Do
we
agree
that
there
will
be
a
geo
bond
or
that
we're
all
okay
with
the
geo
bond,
not
knowing
what
is
going
in
it.
Yet,
maybe
maybe
that's
helpful,
I
don't
know-
and
I
also
commit
to
like
sitting
down
and
having
those
small
groups.
I
just
they
really
for
me
all-
do
relate
in
a
lot
of
different
ways.
Yeah.
B
Okay,
so
I
I
I'm
listening
to
the
conversations-
and
I
think,
I'm
hearing
a
number
of
people
that
almost
everyone's
saying
in
agreement
that
we
want
to
go
forward
to
the
geo
bond.
B
N
So
my
question
is:
what
is
the
minimum
amount
of
money
that
we
could
put
into
glendale
park
to
get
something
done
by
whatever
statutory
deadline
we
have
and
something
that
could
be
usable?
And
maybe
it's
not
the
greatest
thing
and
it's
not
the
the
cadillac
of
parks,
but
it's
something,
and
how
can
we
put
that
in
one
of
the
other
places
and
ben?
Maybe
already
has
an
answer
to
that.
O
A
partial
answer,
if
I
remember
last
year
in
cip,
the
council
approved
3.2
million
dollars
of
parks,
impact
fees
for
improvements
to
glendale.
So
there
is
funding
already
appropriated
to
make
improvements
there.
It's
certainly
not
enough
for
the
full
20
acres
and
the
the
federal
regulatory
deadline
to
restore
some
form
of
active
recreation
on
the
site
available
to
the
public
is
april
of
2024.
O
N
But
I
get
okay,
so
I
guess
my
interest
would
be
that
it's
not
100,
because
I
think
that
is
not
enough
regardless.
So
if
there's
a
way
for
us
to
split
that
up
that,
like
okay,
we're
going
to
in
the
sales
tech
bond
or
in
cip
funds,
some
additional
amount,
above
and
beyond
that
three
point
whatever
to
glendale
and
then
the
rest
can
stay
in
the
the
geo
bond.
I
would
be
interested
in
that.
N
The
other
thing
I
just
am
not
still
not
clear
on
what
our
future
plan
is
for
allen
park
and
like
what
that
nine
million
dollars
is
going
to
get
us.
So
that's
the
one
where
I
would
like
a
little
bit
more
information
before
I'm
ready
to
keep
that
in
there
or
figure
that
out.
So
I
don't
need
an
answer
today,
but
those
are
the
two
that
are
on
my
mind
in
terms
of
potential
either
shifting
moving,
removing
et
cetera.
O
The
the
council
also
funded
in
cip
a
activation
and
historic
reuse
plan
for
allen
park,
and
it
may
be
time
for
that
plan
to
come
back
for
a
midpoint
check-in
for
the
council.
So
we'll
check
on
the
status
of
that
okay.
B
That
would,
I
would
say,
for
other
staff,
members
or
other
staff
members
council
members,
if
you
have
other
like
specific
questions,
let's,
let's
get
those
to
ben
now,
so
we're
not
asking
him
the
questions
on
july
12th
when
we're
looking
for
answers
and
that's
our
discussion
point
so
be
proactive
in
asking
questions,
whether
it's
now
or
you
can
just
shoot
him
a
text.
So
we
can
just
continue
on
because
we're
looking
for
the
yeah
we
gotta
move.
J
Yeah
well,
I
wanted
to
kind
of
second
council
member
mano,
and
I
agree
with
you
darren
and
the
other
thing
is
like
this.
She
today
is
really
helpful,
then,
like
extremely
helpful
to
understand,
where
else
we
can
find
funding
for
certain
things
and
it
looks
like
a
lot
of
them
are
eligible.
O
Yes,
two
two
additional
pieces
of
context
on
arpa.
O
J
A
A
B
Welcome
and
we
have
adam
tello
and
beatrice
cordozo,
probably
on
the
screen,
mary
beth
hi.
D
B
C
You
do
the
introductions,
I
will
do
so
so
beatrice
won't
be
able
to
attend
so
it'll
be
adam
only
so
let
me
walk
you
through
this
process
a
little
bit
thanks
to
the
great
administration
and
rachel
otto's
suggestion
we
decided
to
participate
in
the
harvard
student
program.
C
We
gave
them
several
different
scope
options
and
then
we
agreed
upon
public-private
partnership
and
then
creating
a
temple
not
just
for
the
area
that
they're
going
to
discuss,
but
so
that
we
can
use
a
template
moving
forward.
So
we
can
be
consistent
as
we
go
forward
with
public-private
partnerships
in
salt
lake
city.
C
One
of
my
concerns
has
always
been.
You
know
we're
just
going
to
throw
out
all
these
public
private
partnerships
and
we're
not
going
to
be
consistent.
So
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we
were
consistent,
so
they
did
their
work.
I'd
like
to
welcome
virginia
here.
She
is
a
new
fellow
that
will
be
with
us
for
10
weeks.
That's
going
to
help
facilitate
this,
bringing
this
more
to
fruition
for
us
and
the
template
the
excel
template,
which
has
been,
which
is
amazing
in
the
path
and
the
direction
we
want
to
move
forward
so
I'll
hand.
C
C
They
met
with
the
administration,
they
met
with
three
council
members
as
well
in
discussing
the
issues
that
we
saw
for
public-private
partnerships
and
what
their
visions
were
as
well.
So
we
kind
of
did
this
as
a
collaborative
between
administration,
community
and
council.
P
So
first
I'll
just
give
a
little
introduction
and
background
a
little
some
context
and
then
second
we'll
hand
it
off
to
adam.
After
I
do
a
couple
slides
and
then
virginia
will
kind
of
take
over
and
kind
of
talk
about
how
we're
moving
with
the
project
going
forward.
So
so
just
a
little
intro.
So
last
fall.
We
started
meeting
with
harvard
kennedy
school,
the
mayor's
administration,
kind
of
dictated
finance
to
kind
of
spearhead.
P
This
project
and
we've
been
working
with
the
rda
with
danny
and
corinne,
and
also
public
services
with
corey
rushton,
who
kind
of
oversees
the
senior
advisor
over
at
the
ballpark.
I've
been
really
involved
with
this,
so
thank
you
to
them
for
their
inputs
with
this
so
yeah.
So
the
the
idea
of
the
intent
of
the
field
lag
course
with
the
kennedy
school
was
to
advance
the
learning
of
the
students
and
also
to
provide
salt
lake
city
with
some
strong
research
and
financial
analysis
tools.
P
During
the
next
month
of
meetings,
it
was
finalized
that
salt
lake
city
had
an
interest
in
using
private
public
partnership
framework
as
a
tool
to
finance
urban
development.
It
was
then
decided
that
the
smith's
ballpark
field
and
the
surrounding
neighborhood
were
confirmed
as
kind
of
the
geological
boundaries
of
the
focus
of
the
project.
P
In
the
early
january
mayor
mendenhall,
presented
to
the
group
of
graduate
students
at
the
harvard
kennedy
school
out
of
the
cl
out
of
the
entire
class.
Four
students
were
selected
for
salt
lake
city,
which
some
of
you
guys
had
met
in
person
a
few
months
ago.
P
P
P
You
know
minimize
some
of
the
downsides
of
the
neighborhood
and
try
to
you
know,
try
to
get
more
activity
into
the
area
in
general
and
then
the
question
that
kind
of
got
brought
up
with
this.
Is
you
know?
How
do
we
develop
a
tool?
P
That's
the
best
way
to
kind
of
develop
this
area,
and
then
you
know
the
objective
is
just
kind
of
developing
this
framework
that
we
can
follow
to
kind
of
go
piece
by
piece
and
make
sure
that
we're
catching
all
of
our
bases
and
that
kind
of
goes
into
what
mary
beth
talked
about.
As
you
know,
you
know.
P
The
idea
of
this
is
definitely
intent
is
the
ballpark
and
we
want
to
produce
something
for
the
ballpark,
but
also
you
know,
we'd
love
to
take
this
template
and
start
putting
it
into
some
developments
into
the
future.
So
the
next
slide
here
is
methodology
so
kind
of
what
the
students
did.
So
during
the
course
of
the
spring
semester,
they
did
a
lot
of
benchmarking
with
other
cities.
P
Stakeholder
engagements
with
you
know,
local
government
officials.
I
think
they
met
with
some
of
you
guys
some
business
owners
like
lucky
13
and
some
of
the
residents
like
the
council
member
chair
and
you
know
just
get
some
get
some
direction
on
kind
of
how
the
residents
feel
in
the
area.
P
A
lot
of
academic
literature
did
a
ton
of
benchmarking
and
created
a
great
document
for
us
to
just
be
able
to
read
kind
of
some
past
some
past
examples
of
some
different
areas
to
get
our
base,
especially
for
stadium
and
non-stadium
developments,
because
obviously
the
ballpark
is
a
very
unique
private
partnership
compared
to
what
maybe
a
typical
development
that
a
city
might
actually
do
and
then
the
last
kind
of
part
of
it-
or
I
guess
they
had
some
also
they
did
some
collective
explored
and
presented
on
geospatial
data,
which
awesome
will
adam
will
get
into
that
and
kind
of
explore.
P
Some
of
the
cool
visuals
that
we
kind
of
see
and
just
you
can
really
get
some
insights
in
on
the
area
with
some
of
these
and
then
lastly,
the
financial
model,
which
is
really
the
exciting
thing
for
mary
beth
and
I
is
to
kind
of
be
able
to
plug
and
play
and
to
put
in
some
assumptions
but
also
kind
of
gives
us
an
output
that
gives
us
a
data,
a
data-driven
decision
that
you
know
we
can
move
forward
with.
It's,
not
just
you
know
a
guessing
game
with
some
of
these.
P
These
developments
so
yeah-
and
I
guess
another
part
of
this-
is
that
this
study,
so
you
guys
probably
all
know,
is
that
there's
been
like
a
ballpark
master
plan
that
was
developed
quite
a
while
ago.
I
think
the
mayor
presented
on
and-
and
this
is
not
this
is
not.
This
is
separate.
I
guess
from
this
is
kind
of
what
I'm
saying
and
it's
not
trying
to
to
overlap
with
anything
that
they've
done.
This
is
supposed
to
be
an
additional
tool
that
hopefully
will
coincide
with
the
decision
making
within
the
ballpark.
P
P
R
Excellent,
thank
you
appreciate,
yeah.
I
small
technical
difficulties
joining
you
from
cambridge
massachusetts,
but
I'm
just
really
glad
to
be
here
representing
harvard
university
and
the
team
that
that
that
I
have
was
fortunate
enough
to
participate
with
and
andrew
and
mary
brett
beth
and
the
mayor
and
now
speaking
to
you,
the
council
members.
So
thanks
for
having
us
and
really
honored
and
blessed
to
be
here
as
andrew
was
kind
of
laying
the
framework
for
you.
R
I
wanted
to
drill
in
here
a
little
bit
about
ppps
and
that's
the
public-private
partnership
and
just
as
a
sort
of
a
scope.
Note
that
he
hit
on
there
is
is
there's
lots
of
conversations
about
a
public
private
partnership
and
we
really
took
the
more
restrictive
or
the
more
academic
approach,
which
is
a
particular
vehicle,
and
so
we'll
talk
about
that
a
little
bit.
But
you
know
at
the
very
high
level
the
wave
top
ppps
are
very
complex,
right.
R
There's
legal
policy
financial
framework
that
we
need
to
work
through,
there's
a
there's,
a
lot
of
reward,
potentially
on
them,
but
they're
a
complex
arrangement
between
multiple
parties,
and
that
was
something
that
we
kind
of
unearthed
in
our
in
our
research
and
are
working
with
your
team
and
the
way
we
wanted
to
brief
this
to
you
and
talk
about
this
was
around
these
kind
of
three
dimensions
of
success.
R
That's
that's
what
our
literature
review
kind
of
indicated
this
this
idea
of
a
structural
and
policy
framework
dimension
and
there's
a
locational
dimension,
and
then,
of
course,
the
financial
dimension
and
I'd
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
say
that
the
ppp
is
really
they're
output
focused
and
they
are
about
profit
generation,
not
at
the
exclusion
of
of
other
social
good.
R
But
profit
generation
is
a
requirement
of
a
ppp
to
engage
the
private
sector
to
want
to
partner
with,
in
this
case
your
fine
city
so
and
you'll
see
there
at
the
very
bottom.
It's
communities,
market,
attractiveness,
legal
feasibility,
there's
a
rubric
that
we
step
through
to
understand
this
in
the
ballpark
itself.
So
android.
If
you
have
control,
you
can
push
the
next
slide.
R
But
the
first
piece
of
this
kind
of
structural
idea-
and
this
is
around
a
framework
that
we
use
here
at
harvard-
is
around
project
players
and
processes
in
what
it
is
to
say
at
a
very
high
level,
is
to
suggest
that
these
three
factors
need
to
be
considered
throughout
the
planning
process
and
need
to
be
in
alignment
to
the
maximum
extent
possible
right.
So
you
need
the
right
project.
Not
every
project
is
a
candidate
for
a
ppp
and
you
need
the
right
players
right.
R
You
have
to
have
the
right
type
of
developers
in
your
city
and
you
have
to
have
the
willingness
from
a
council
such
as
yourself
and
then,
of
course,
the
processes
are
essential
in
moving
this
forward
and
they
need
to
be
in
play
earlier
on.
R
So
I'll
just
jump
to
the
next
slide
and
please
feel
free
as
I'm
not
in
the
room
with
you.
If
there's
any
questions,
please
jump
in
and-
and
I
can
expel
money
on
any
details
so
in
the
upper
right,
you
kind
of
see
we're
moving
around
this
triangle
very
swiftly,
but
we
wanted
to
dive
in
a
little
bit
on
this
locational
dimension
of
ppps
and
really
there's
three
key
considerations.
R
We
wanted
to
bring
forward
forward
to
you
and
that
is
of
course,
the
site
selection
land
use
restrictions
in
in
the
case
of
the
ballpark.
We
really
were
talking
about
alcohol,
alcohol,
proximity
restrictions
and
then,
of
course,
like
the
knock-on
effects
or
the
secondary
effects
of
any
ppp
that
you
will
want
to
consider
as
they
may
not
be
present
in
the
initial
planning
aspects.
R
Great,
thank
you
and,
of
course,
site
selection.
Just
so
to
be
very
specific
about
what
the
harvard
team
was
looking
at.
Is
we
prioritize
the
sort
of
existing
city-owned
properties,
and
in
this
case
we
were
really
talking
about
that
north
parking
lot
and
in
and
around
the
ballpark
itself,
and
I
I
won't
need
to
tell
anybody.
R
You
know
you're
members
of
this
city
that
there's
there's
a
couple
really
good
things
going
for
the
ballpark
and
this
this
really
this
area,
in
particular
in
its
proximity
to
the
tracks,
the
entrance
to
the
ballpark
here,
public
parcels
nearby
and
potential
private
developers
that
have
been
discussed
in
the
area
and
are
interested,
and
I
want
to
introduce
here
just
as
a
framework.
This
idea
of
an
activation
center
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
it
with
councilmember
mano,
but
but
really
engaging
the
neighborhood
here.
R
Okay,
yeah
drive
on
that
yeah.
Thank
you
so
to
bound
the
study,
we
really
talked
about
from
that
activation
center.
A
10-minute
walk
radius,
so
here
we're
stepping
into
some
geospatial
analysis.
You'll
see
the
the
blue
outline.
This
is
you
know
at
a
normal
clip.
This
is
how
far
you
can
get
in
a
10
minute,
walk
and
functionally
that's
what
we
wanted
to
define
the
ballpark.
R
I
know
the
ballpark
neighborhood
and
the
ballpark
has
a
very
specific
jurisdiction
here,
but
this
is
the
experience
from
the
activation
point
and
just
to
point
out
that
it
extends
over
state
street
into
the
midtown
neighborhood
functionally
next
slide.
There.
R
So
this
now
we
want
to
talk
specifically
about
the
land
use
restrictions
and,
in
this
case
the
alcohol
proximity
restrictions
and
these
you
know,
as
you
are
more
familiar
than
I
probably
and
I
and
I'm
not
an
attorney
but
the
dbc's
alcohol
proximity.
R
It
begins
with
this
idea
of
a
community
location
and
as
defined
by
the
statute
or
reading
of
it
of
your
code
is
it's
public
schools,
private
schools,
churches,
public
libraries,
playgrounds
parks,
so
that's
the
beginning
of
what
would
trigger
a
proximity
restriction.
So
we
can.
You
can
see
here
in
the
study
area,
there's
quite
a
few
in
the
area
and
we'll
click
to
the
next
and
you'll
have
a
closer
look
at
those
so
specifically
right
in
and
around
the
study
area.
R
R
So
to
understand
this,
we
we
looked
at
the
code,
a
200
feet
straight
line
can
have
no
restaurants
or
bars,
and
again
this
is
our
reading
of
it.
Please
feel
free
to
correct.
As
you
see
fit,
but
right
away,
you
have
some
areas
that
are
of
the
ppp
area
that
we
have
to
be
considering
when
the
ppps
sort
of
land
uses
are
discussed.
R
So
you
have
some
red
overlap,
is
what
you're
looking
at
in
the
ppp
areas,
and
we
can
jump
next
yep
so
to
dive
in
even
deeper
there's
a
300
foot
in
a
600
foot,
ordinary
pedestrian
travel
and
bear
with
me
here.
This
is
a
little
bit
tricky,
but
the
the
light
purple
is
this
300
foot
walking
distance
as
you
would
experience
it
on
the
side
of
the
on
the
sidewalk
and
in
that
area
code
suggests
that
there's
to
be
no
restaurants
or
bar
entrances.
R
Now
we've
talked,
and
you
can
be
a
little
creative
in
where
these
would
be
located
to
step
outside
of
that
restriction.
But
recalling
that
it's
the
boundary
of
the
community
location
to
the
entrance
of
the
establishment
and
then
the
600
foot
would
be
restaurants,
yes
bars,
no
and
that's
the
dark
purple
area.
R
So,
details
aside,
the
specific
here
is
that,
along
these
ppp
boundaries
there
they
will
come
in
contact
with
this
utah
code
and
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
that.
You
know
as
we
as
we
as
we
planned
what
types
of
uses
for
the
ballpark
you
you
would
like,
and
I
know
I'm
moving
quick
so
again.
R
Next
next
slide,
please
andrew
the
the
final
dimension
I
wanted
to
introduce
here
is
is
a
couple,
the
range
and
the
secondary
effects,
and
something
that
you
know
already
that
and
we
heard
a
lot
in
our
user
engagements.
Neighborhood
engagements
is
part
of
the
character
and
what
people
love
about
the
ballpark
area
is
it's
affordable
and
you
know
maybe
becoming
less
for
some
folks,
but
it's
still
an
affordable
neighborhood
and
we
wanted
to
present
what
we
were
finding
in
the
data.
R
So
here,
you're
you're,
talking
about
a
289
000,
mean
residential
property
value
and
that's
that's
an
assessed
property
value
and
we
understand
that's
a
bit
trailing,
but
you
know
even
driving
that
up
to
350,
if
you
think
about
the
explosion
of
housing
prices
that
you
and
we
all
have
experienced,
it's
still
a
very
affordable
neighborhood
in
comparison
to
other
parts
of
your
city.
R
R
We
also
want
to
look
about
affordable
housing.
So
these
these
are
44
separate,
affordable
housing
permits
in
the
area.
The
data
we
were
looking
at
with
your
ims
team
didn't
suggest
how
many
actual
units
were
affordable
only
that
there
were
44,
separate
housing,
affordable
housing
permits
in
the
study
area
and
those
were
concentrated
on
15
different
parcels
and
again
you
can
see
the
ppp
boundaries
and
the
orange
is
where
those
are
permits
are
located.
R
Next
slide,
please
and
then
ultimately,
from
from
a
number
of
community
members
we
were
hearing
about,
you
know
shelterless
the
shelterless
people
who
live
in
the
area
and
how
this
might
impact
their
lives
and
the
development
in
the
ballpark
might
change
their
experience
as
well.
So
what
we
wanted
to
return
here
is
the
slc
mobile
dashboard
data
from
2017
to
essentially
now
february
2022,
and
what
you'll
see
is
the
density
and
essentially
each
one
of
these
hexagons
counts.
R
The
number
of
incidents
that
have
been
reported
or
locations
of
the
homeless
that
have
been
reported
in
that
time
period.
So
right
away,
you
can
see
three
different
hexagons
engage
the
ppp
site
and
then
there's
a
number
in
and
around
coleman
and
the
other
locations
right
around
the
ballpark
next
slide.
Please-
and
I
know
I
went
through
that
awful
fast,
so
we
can
during
q
and
a
feel
free
to
come
back
and
we
can
discuss
any
bit
of
that.
R
That
is
of
interest
to
you,
but,
but
here
we'll,
I
think
I'll
hand
it
back
over
to
andrew
in
virginia
to
maybe
talk
about
the
third
third
dimension
and
it's
the
financial
dimension
of
the
ppp.
Thank.
P
You
thanks
adam,
so
I'll
talk
a
little
about
the
financial
dimension,
so
the
team
developed
a
really
awesome
financial
model
right
now,
it's
in
the
form
of
an
excel
document
worksheet
and
it's
it's
a
really
cool
kind
of
a
plug
and
play
document.
P
Where
we've
listed
a
lot
of
assumptions
and
and
it's
from
more
of
a
developer's
point
of
view,
so
kind
of
understanding,
hey
what
what
would
be
the
potential
rate
of
return
based
on
the
cost.
The
square
foot
cost
assumptions
that
we
made
and
we
got
a
lot
of
that
information
from
the
rda
and
a
lot
of
the
previous
projects
that
that
they've
done
so
they're.
It's
we.
P
It
seems
to
be
very
realistic
numbers
that
we
used
in
the
model
and
obviously
you
know
it's
all
virginia's
doing
a
great
job
of
kind
of
organizing
that
data
right
now,
so
that
we
can
update
that
information
as
that
information
gets
updated
and
becomes
available
for
us
and
based
on
you
know
what
type
of
project
that
we're
kind
of
looking
at,
if
it's
a
ballpark
or
a
a
residential
hotel,
or
something
something
like
that
so
yeah.
So
the
next
part
is
just
kind
of
understanding.
P
So
what
type
of
developments
that
we
were
talking
about?
So
we
kind
of
briefly
talked
about
so
the
north
parking
lot.
I
think
the
idea
is
to
you
know
not
necessarily
take
away
entirely
the
parking
structure
but
add
to
it.
I
think
we
all
know
that
it's
kind
of
a
waste
a
wasted
space
right
now,
but
you
know,
there's
lots
of
possibilities
in
adding
some
type
of
a
mixed
use,
residential
slash
business
in
that
area
and
then
likewise
on.
P
You
know
residential
slash
commercial
use
area
there
and
then
the
bee
hive,
which
is
where
number
three
is
down
at
the
south
side
of
the
ballpark,
which
will
be
used
as
kind
of
event,
space
for
game
days
and
non-game
days,
and
you
know,
extend
the
stadium
out
further
and
you
know,
hopefully
build
a
host
more
types
of
events.
There
type
of
thing.
P
P
Obviously,
the
more
density
is
going
to
probably
have
a
higher
rate
of
return,
most
likely
from
a
developer
standpoint,
but
there
could
be
a
lot
more
negative
effects,
maybe
into
the
neighborhood
that
aren't
necessarily
a
revenue
driver
that
the
city
might
want
to
see,
but
this,
this
of
just
you,
know
basic
example
of
hey.
We
can
either
we
do
a
high
density,
a
medium
density
or
a
low
density,
and
then
we
can
see
how
that
pans
out
from
the
financial
model.
P
The
next
slide
don't
get
too
into
the
weeds
on
the
numbers.
This
is
just
kind
of
more
of
an
example
of
how
an
output
might
might
seem
once
we
picked,
which
density
and
the
model
came
out.
So
you
know,
I
guess,
industry
standard
the
rate
of
the
best
rate
of
return
from
a
developer
standpoint
from
the
harvard
team
and
the
advice
that
we
get
is
12
that
they
want
to
see
about
12.
P
So,
in
this
case
from
our,
if
we
were
to
have
a
discussion
with
a
developer,
the
high
density
case
would
be
the
best
scenario
for
for
for
their
for
their
revenue.
Drivers,
obviously
there's
other
factors
that
can
be
put
into
this
model.
That
would
change
these.
These
outcomes.
P
And
then
I
kind
of
wanted
just
to
stress
again.
Is
you
know?
The
intent
of
this
project
is
not
to
see
what
type
of
ppp
project
would
work
on
the
area
we're
not
trying
to
force
a
ppp
on
the
ballpark.
The
idea
of
this
is
to
see
is
a
ppp.
The
right
option
is
it:
is
it
going
to
benefit
us
and
and
a
developer?
P
This
is
hey,
we've
never
really
done
a
real
ppp
before
and
we
want
to
check
our
bases
and-
and
you
know,
get
some
real
real
data
driven
decisions
on
this
stuff,
so
that's
kind
of
it
for
how
the
project
went
throughout
the
semester,
with
the
four
students
and
now
we've
been
fortunate
enough
to
have
virginia
come
with
us
for
10
weeks
and
now
we're
going
to
really
try
to
put
put
this
model
into
the
engage
and
really
go
forward
with
it.
So
I'll
let
her
kind
of
take
over.
Q
Yeah,
thank
you.
So,
as
you
heard,
I
was
not
one
of
the
the
four
students
that
had
the
pleasure
of
working
on
this
last
semester,
but
I
was
really
excited
about
this
project.
From
the
beginning,
when
mayor
mendenhall
put
up
a
picture
of
salt
lake
city
and
it's
like
wow
that
is
so
beautiful,
so
I'm
really
excited
to
be
here
and
to
be
continuing
the
project.
Q
So
my
role
is
going
to
be
kind
of
taking
the
deliverables
that
the
team
worked
on
the
financial
model,
first
of
all
and
kind
of
further
developing
that
and
refining
some
of
the
assumptions
and
building
out
a
process
to
update
the
data
and
input
assumptions
over
time.
So
if
you
want
to
use
it
for
a
different
project
in
the
future,
it'll
be
easy
to
understand
where
all
all
of
that
information
came
from
and
how
you
can
update
it
going
forward.
Q
And
it
was
also
developed
kind
of
from
a
developer's
perspective.
So
I'll
be
working
on
adding
in
some
of
the
city's
available
funding
tools
into
the
model
as
well,
so
that
you
can
get
kind
of
a
broad
picture
and
assess
the
feasibility
of
a
public
private
partnership
deal
in
the
ballpark.
And
then
hopefully
it
can
be
kind
of
more
generally
used
in
the
future,
as
well
as
one
tool
in
the
toolkit
that
the
finance
team
has
and
then
secondly,
I'll
be
working
on
sort
of
a
complimentary
governance
framework
to
go
with
the
financial
model.
Q
So
looking
at
kind
of
a
risk
assessment,
what
are
some
different
criteria
to
look
at
and
evaluating
the
risks
to
the
city
in
entering
a
public-private
partnership
again
specific
to
the
ballpark,
but
also?
Hopefully,
this
is
a
tool
that
you
can
use
more
broadly
going
forward
as
well
and
then,
lastly
I'll
be
working
on
analyzing
kind
of
a
master,
developer
approach
versus
a
parcel-by-parcel
approach
in
the
public-private
partnership.
Q
Q
B
Thank
you
virginia
adam
questions
from
the
council.
N
For
from
from
well
first,
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
the
team
who
I
was
able
to
meet
with
him
a
couple
times
throughout
the
process
and
sort
of
talk
about
the
neighborhood
and
talk
about
some
of
the
the
goals
and
priorities
for
the
the
direction
of
the
neighborhood,
but
also
for
this
project
and
so
appreciate.
N
The
work
and
the
interest
in
salt
lake
city
appreciate
the
administration
for
recognizing
this
as
a
as
a
group
of
students
to
engage
with
and
excited
to
see
what
comes
out
of
this
residency
that
you
have
here
virginia.
So
thank
you
for
for
choosing
our
city,
and
I,
in
terms
of
the
outcomes
of
this
I
I
just
I
can't
I
can't
stress
enough
how
much
potential
we
have
in
the
ballpark
neighborhood
to
really
develop
the
type
of
community
and
type
of
urban
experience
that
I
want
to
see
in
my
neighborhood.
N
I
live
in
your
10
minute
thing,
so
I
I
know
the
neighborhood
very,
very
well
and
I'm
so
excited
for
the
energy
that
is
finally
being
put
into
that
neighborhood
both
from
the
council
from
the
mayor
and
from
the
finance
department
and
everybody
else
in
the
city
and
in
the
private
development
community,
because
they're
that
neighborhood
is
truly
so
under
capitalized
like
under
developed
in
terms
of
the
potential
that
we
have
there
to
turn
it
into
something.
Really
great,
so
appreciate
the
presentation
and
excited
to
see
the
the
project
and
the
ideas
come
to
fruition.
B
You
know
we
have
a
number
of
ballparks
minor
league
ballparks
across
the
united
states
and
and
has
this
type
of
project
worked
in
the
in
those
areas
and
has
it
what's
the
lessons
learned
that
maybe
in
el
paso
or
you
know,
I
even
say
even
the
you
know,
boston.
You
know
I'm
dating
myself
because
I
remember
that
place
years
ago
and
it
wasn't
quite
the
same
as
it
is
now
so
and
how
that
plays
into
part
of
in
your
study.
Q
R
Virginia,
if
I
could
I
just
amplify,
we,
sir,
we
began
really.
Our
whole
effort
was
around
case.
Studies
was
about
you
know.
Where
has
this
worked?
Where
has
it
not
worked,
and
I
think
the
truth
is
it's
nuanced
right?
It's
partially
worked
and
it's
partially
not
worked
everywhere.
There
isn't
a
perfect
playbook
to
go
by
which
I
you
know.
R
I
don't
want
to
say
that
salt
lake
is
breaking
new
ground,
but
but
every
time
you
do
a
ppp
from
our
research,
it
indicates
that
it's
unique
it's
almost
the
first
time,
we've
ever
done
it
right
so
part
of
what
our
deliverables
from
this
semester
is,
is
a
checklist
kind
of
a
things
to
think
about
as
you're
going
through
it,
and-
and
we
placed
a
couple
of
different
case
studies
in
that
framework
and
provided
that
information
back
so
places
like
denver,
colorado
had
done
a
great
job.
R
It
hit
most
of
the
sort
of
priority
boxes,
checked
them
in
in
a
positive
way,
and
then
there
was
a
couple
other
cities
that
struggled
to
do
it,
and
I
think
we
can
learn
from
that.
And
we
can
pass
on
that
that
those
learnings
here
through
virginia
to
your
city.
R
We
can
certainly
provide
that
information.
I
I
wouldn't
say
that
any
we
didn't
find
that
anybody,
any
city
had
a
complete
failure,
only
that
certain
aspects,
whether
they
were
the
political
will
or
maybe
the
the
sparsity
of
private
partners-
maybe
they
failed
on
those
dimensions
but
really
hit
it
on
on
several
others.
R
But
I
I
I
could
tell
you
that
we
looked
at
phoenix.
We
looked
at
cleveland,
we
looked
at
a
couple,
smaller
market
teams
as
well,
and
to
be
specific,
we
were
really
looking
around
ppps
and
sports
facilities,
so
not
exclusively
baseball,
but
sorry
to
give
you
a
wiggle
of
an
answer,
but
we
can.
We
can
give
you
that
data
that
we
have
on
that.
If
you'd
like
it.
M
Yeah,
I
think
it
would
just
be
interesting
because
for
many
of
us
and
as
we
we
often
times,
go
to
other
cities
to
see
what
they've
done
right
and
done
wrong
and
as
we
continue
down
this
path,
it
may
be
something
that
we
kind
of
look
at
going
and
meeting
with
like
developers
in
that
city
or
city
officials,
or
things
like
that.
That
we've
done
with
other
other
projects
throughout
our
city
to
go,
make
that
partnership
and
kind
of
learn
from
that.
So
it
might
be
interesting.
It
would
be
interesting
for
me.
R
Absolutely
we'll
pass
that
on
through
virginia
if
she
doesn't
mind
we'll
get
that
to
you.
Thank
you.
Giving.
B
This
is
this
is
wonderful,
and
I
I
would
you
know,
just
kind
of
echo
comes
with
romano's
that
area's
got
so
much
great
potential
and
some
good
good
bones
there
and
it
would
really
be
cool
to
have
a
to
vitalize
that
area
so
awesome.
Thank
you
very
much.
Adam
on
the
screen.
P
Just
to
add,
like
this,
you
know
once
virginia's
off
and
on
her
new
way.
You
know
I
our
intent.
My
best
intent
is
to
have
this
model
just
not
for
the
ballpark.
It's
you
know.
We
want
to
be
able
to
lay
this
on
to
any
development
within
the
city
and
be
able
to
walk
through
the
checklist.
And
you
know,
hey
is,
is
this
a
possible
ppp?
P
Q
B
D
B
Can't
hear
you,
though,
unmute
oh
you're
there
well
welcome
thanks,
thanks
for
having
me
great
great,
to
have
you
and
thank
you
for
volunteering
to
sit
on
the
business
advisory
board
and
great
to
have
you
on
our
screen.
B
So
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
yourself
and
why
you
want
to
be
on
this
board.
F
Sure
great
so
my
name
is
vinay
cardwell,
so
I'm
a
transplant
to
salt
lake
city
originally
from
vancouver
canada
and
went
to
the?
U
of
u
and
solid
community
college
in
my
undergrad
and
I
recently
just
graduated
from
harvard
and
now
I'm
running,
I
work
at
ebay
as
my
day
job,
but
my
passion
project,
which
I
love
doing,
is
running
young
professionals
in
salt
lake
city.
So
we
do
monthly
events.
We
stimulate
the
economy.
F
Last
month
I
spoke
at
the
one
utah
summit
about
young
professionals
in
salt
lake
city,
where
the
state
wants
us
to
really
focus
in
on
the
recruitment
and
retention
of
talent.
Here
in
salt
lake,
we
are
not
no
longer
a
flyover
state,
we
are
a
destination
and
that's
what
I
want
to
help
invoke
and
do
more
with
salt
lake
is
to
be
I'm
growing
roots
here,
I'm
never
leaving
salt
lake
city.
F
So
I
want
to
make
this
the
best
city
I'll
ever
live
in
for
the
rest
of
my
life,
and
so
how
do
I
do
that?
And
it's
getting
involved
in
what
you
guys
are
doing,
and
so
every
month
we
have.
We
have
events.
So,
actually,
next
thursday,
this
thursday,
we
have
our
first
mix
our
mixing
mingle
at
brick
and
mortar
bar.
So
we
have
people
coming
in
from
outside
the
city
coming
in
to
stimulate
the
economy
and
just
join
and
participate
and
just
grow.
F
Their
friend
groups,
while
they're
here
in
salt
lake
and
so
being
part
of
the
young
professionals
in
salt
lake
city,
allows
me
to
do
a
lot
of
things
here
in
the
city
and
you
make
a
lot
of
connections
and
I
met
roberta
what
I
want
to
say
three
years
ago
who
I
just
reached
out
to
about
this
role,
and
I
saw
it
on
on
the
website
and
I'm
like.
I
should
be
on
this,
because
I
do
so
much
with
the
city,
so
it
just
made
sense
to
be
an
easy
transition.
B
N
Just
wanted
to
say
thank
you,
for
you
know.
We
go
through
a
lot
of
board
appointments
and
a
lot
of
people,
but
you
like
laid
out
a
vision
for
our
city
and
for
the
future
that
you
want
to
help
create,
and
I
loved
that.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
for
volunteering,
but
also
having
a
vision
for
why
you're
volunteering.
I
really
did
appreciate
that.
F
B
K
M
M
The
time
yep,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
if
you've
ever
been
to
any
of
vigne's
activities,
he
brings
that
much
energy
and
more
to
those
activities.
I'd
like
follow
make
sure
to
follow
him
on
insta
just
so
that
I'm
jealous
of
all
the
things
that
he's
doing,
because
it's
amazing
and
he
real,
like
the
passion
that
he
has
for
salt
lake,
shows
in
every
event
and
every
activity
that
he
does
and
it's
it's
quite
inspiring.
Actually.
So
thank
you
for
doing
this.
Video.
B
Well,
thank
you
for
volunteering.
Thank
you
for
putting
your
name
in
the
hat
here,
appreciate
that
you're
gonna
be
on
tonight's
consent
agenda
at
seven
o'clock's,
formal,
meeting.
B
Okay,
you
need
not
be
there
to
to
win,
but
you're
more
than
welcome
to
join
us
so
have
a
great
evening
thanks
again
thanks
everyone
all
right
have
a
good
night
counselor,
we're
moving
on
to
item
number,
seven
appointment
for
the
board
of
appeals
and
examiners,
lawrence
sugars,.
D
B
Just
give
us
a
quick
update
on
on
yourself
and
why
you
want
to
be
on
this
board.
D
D
I
got
hired
on
so
I
was
I
was
in
code
enforcement.
Then
I
went
to
the
building
department.
Then
I
went
to
south
salt
lake
and
I
became
the
building
official
down
there
so
and
I've
I
can
go
on
and
on
about
me,
I'm
very
good
at
that.
So
I've
helped
write
codes.
I
used
to
be
on
a
code
change
committee.
D
I
used
to
help.
It
was
called
quest
star.
You
probably
remember
questar.
Now
it's
dominion,
energy.
I
used
to
help
them
teach
gas,
fuel,
gas,
sizing
and
venting.
So
I've
just
been
around
for
a
long
time,
and
I
think
I
have
a
passion
I
some
friends
of
mine
asked
me
to
apply
and
because
of
my
passion
I
thought.
Well,
yes,
I'm
retired,
but
I
still
enjoy
this
stuff.
L
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
thank
you
for
applying
and
for
your
service
to
this
community.
So
looking
forward
to
to
to
you
joining
the
sport.
B
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much.
As
I
told
the
other
gentleman
you're
gonna
be
on
tonight's
consent
agenda
at
seven
o'clock,
formal
meeting
you
need
not
be
there
present
to
win,
but
you're
more
than
welcome
to
join
our
seven
o'clock,
formal
meeting
and
we'll
you'll.
Your
name
will
be
on
that
list.
Thank.
B
Okay,
council
we're
moving
on
to
appointment
for
the
board
of
appeals
and
examiners,
george
reed,
and
that
must
be
george
on
the
screen.
Yes,
hey
george
good
evening,
and
thank
you
for
volunteering
to
be
on
the
board.
I
appreciate
that
give
us
a
little
background
and
why
you
want
to
be
on
this
board.
S
Yeah
absolutely
well
thanks
for
the
opportunity.
First
of
all,
so
my
name
is
george
reed,
I'm
currently
the
chief
building
official
of
vineyard
city.
I
don't
know
if,
if
any
of
you
know
where
vineyard
city
is
it's
where
the
geneva
steel
site
used
to
be
over
the
last
10
years,
vineyard
city
has
been
the
the
fastest
growing
city
in
the
nation
which
isn't
too
hard
to
do
when
you
go
from
less
than
100
residents
to
over
20
000
in
that
10
years,
so
I
was
vineyard's.
S
S
I
also
have
my
own
business
that
I
did
before
park
city,
where
I
inspect
schools
and
I
do
plan
a
view
on
schools
all
throughout
the
state.
I
still
do
that
on
the
side,
mostly
on
the
plan
review
side
of
things
where
I
review
the
the
schools
that
are
state-owned,
I
have
a
bachelor's
degree
in
construction
management
from
utah
valley
university.
S
The
reason
why
I
was
really
interested
in
applying
for
this
a
call
was
put
out
that
they
needed
professionals
to
apply
and
serve
on
your
board,
and
I
teach
for
salt
lake
community
college
for
their
continuing
education,
programs
and
whatnot,
and
I
also
teach
some
classes
primarily
ones
that
that
have
focused
on
establishing
board
of
appeals
and
I've
helped
some
some
municipalities
establish
their
board
of
appeals
and
I
think
it's
a
great
great
process,
that's
within
the
code,
and
I
think
it's
underutilized
and
so
anytime
I
get
a
chance
to
put
my
money
where
my
mouth
is.
B
You're
off
the
hook,
easy,
no
questions
from
our
end,
thanks
for
thanks
for
volunteering,
and
thanks
for
all
your
experience,
so
I
think
it
we
have
about
two
great
experienced
gentlemen.
Who's
gonna
be
joining
this
board.
Well,
we're
gonna
be
on
your
you're
gonna,
be
on
a
formal
agenda
at
7
p.m,
and
no
need
to
be
there
in
person.
But
if
you
want
to
call
in
you're
more
than
welcome
to
do
that
have
a
great
evening,
I
really
appreciate
it.
Thanks
a
lot.
George.
N
Mr
chair,
thank
you
squad.
Can
I
just
ask
staff
a
question-
and
I
should
have
noticed
this
before,
but
I'm
noticing
we're
appointing
all
these
people
and
their
terms
expiring.
The
exact
same
time
do
we?
Is
there
any
thought
about
staggering
the
years
that
their
terms
expire
so
that
the
board
doesn't
all
turn
over
at
once?
I
know
currently,
there's
not
really
anyone
on
that
board
and
so
we're
rebuilding
it.
But
if
everyone's
term
expires
june,
14th
2027,
including
the
next
two
people
will
meet,
is
that
should
we
think
about
that.
I
D
Hi,
council
members
great
question:
I'm
guessing
that
the
ordinance
says
that
the
initial
term
is
for
a
set
period
of
years.
I
think
you
could
stagger
them.
You
could
also
remember
that
our
boards
and
commissions
ordinance
generally
says
that
if
somebody's
term
expires
they
can
continue
to
serve
until
another
person
is
appointed,
so
you
won't
just
lose
everybody.
If
those
people
want
to
continue
to
serve.
B
Well,
I
appreciate
that,
as
the
other
gentleman
gives
a
little
history
and
and
your
reasons
for
want
to
join
this
board.
G
G
G
Citizens
and
applicants
administrative
right
when
they
think
that
something
has
been
misinterpreted
and
they
have
the
right
to
appeal
and
to
present
evidence
that
they
think
that,
where
their
decision
may
have
not
been
correct
by
the
authority
that
made
the
decision,
I've
conducted
several
appeals.
I've
been
the
chairman
of
the
west
valley
city
board
of
appeals.
I
conducted
several
appeals
when
I
worked
for
the
city
of
west
jordan,
someone.
E
Just
no,
I
just
I
really
appreciated
what
you
had
to
say
and
I
think
you'll
be
a
great
member
of
the
board,
and
so
thank
you
for
for
volunteering,
and
that
goes
for
for
you
as
well,
mr
sugars.
Everything
that
this
is
it's
fun
to
have
applicants
that
are
that
have
such
a
wealth
of
expertise
and
experience
that
they're
willing
to
offer
to
the
city
and
to
just
to
help
make
our
city
a
better
place.
So,
thank
you
so
much
you're
welcome.
Thank
you
for
the.
J
Yeah
I
wanted
to
echo
that
it
all
always
feels
very
comforting
to
know
that
a
lot
of
people
have
experience
here
and
you
can
see
both
sides-
both
government
and
also
the
development
world
out
there,
and
try
to
find
that
balance.
When
you
know
there
are
appeals
that
maybe
we
missed
something
or
maybe
they
didn't
understand
completely,
but
I
know
that
you
guys
will
be
able
to
have
great
solutions
for
that
board.
So
thank
you.
B
Thank
you
so
thank
you,
paul,
as
I
told
the
others
you'll
be
on
tonight's
formal
agenda
on
our
consent
agenda
at
7
p.m.
You
need
not
be
there.
You
need
not
be
tuned
in,
but
we'll
be
making
that
call
and
that
vote
at
7
pm
tonight.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
volunteering
and
it's
been
wonderful
hearing
your
philosophy.
B
B
All
right,
I
got
you
now,
oh
gotcha,
thank
you
for
joining
us
tonight
tyson
and
appreciate
your
wanting
to
volunteer
for
the
board,
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
yourself
and
why
you
want
to
be
on
this
board.
G
Yeah,
thank
you
for
considering
me.
I
I
personally
understand
the
the
need
of
the
importance
of
having
a
board
of
appeals.
My
career
has
started
in
the
front
lines
of
actually
in
the
trades
and
doing
refrigeration
and
then
moving
over
to
building
safety
in
saratoga
springs
as
a
building
inspector
and
then
moving
up
to
summit
county
as
a
building
inspector
and
working
my
way
up
there.
G
I
I
I
saw
a
lack
of
safety
occasionally
in
general
contractors,
and
I
found
the
opportunity
to
switch
sides
to
go
over
to
work
for
a
general
contractor
and
actually
be
on
the
front
line
with
the
general
contractor
and
trying
to
build
as
safe
as
possible.
Obviously,
everybody
being
human,
even
architects,
everybody
makes
mistakes
but
being
on
site
and
trying
to
catch
those
mistakes
during
construction.
G
G
Obviously,
the
code
is
very
vague
in
some
cases,
and
black
and
white
and
others.
I've
personally
ran
into
conditions
where
I
just
finished:
a
100
million
100
million
dollar
project
in
park
city
and
there's
cases
where
there's
not
always
the
chance
of
of
having
a
board
of
appeals
just
because
it's
something
that's
not
set
up.
I've
personally
been
impacted
with
that.
I
got
into
this
industry
because
I
I
want
to
help
out.
I
want.
I
want
everything
to
be
as
safe
as
possible.
G
I
I
love
getting
in
debates
with
people
on
code,
I've
I
go
to
trainings
with
a
lot
of
these.
Other
gentlemen.
That's
been
been
in
these
meetings
by
the
utah
chapter
of
icc.
For
for
inspectors.
I
want
to
help
out
over.
However,
I
can.
I
feel
that
I
could
be
a
great
asset
for
this
just
being
seeing
the
front
lines
and
also
on
the
side
of
development
and
construction.
B
B
I
have,
I
see,
no
questions
from
you
from
our
end.
Thank
you
for
volunteering.
Thank
you
for
being
a
part
of
a
solution,
and
I
appreciate
that
you'll
be
also
on
tonight's
7
p.m.
Formal
agenda,
you
can
call
in
and
listen
in,
but
you
need
not
be
there
so
have
a
wonderful
evening,
and
thank
you
for
your
your
time
and
energy.
B
I
I
We
can
put
you
on
a
waiting
list.
Last
year
we
did-
or
I
should
say
last
time-
I
don't
remember
the
exact
timing,
but
we
did
try
to
use
the
waiting
list
once
before
without
success.
So
we'll
we'll
just
go
ahead
and
put
the
names
of
the
people
who
did
express
interest
on
a
waiting
list
and
then
we'll
get
back
to
you
right
away.
I
If
we
have
any
good
results
on
that,
then
also
I
wanted
to
just
mention
that
you
have
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
account
former
council
member
andrew
johnston
and
about
homelessness
issues,
and
you
may
really
want
to
take
advantage
of
that,
because
legislators
are
regularly
asking
questions
about
the
city's
role
in
homelessness
and
things
like
that,
and
so
it's
it's
pretty
likely
that
the
city
and
the
county
and
the
providers
will
end
up
in
conversations
with
legislators,
and
so
you
might
want
to
get
the
most
current
information
from
from
andrew
about
what
they
have
been
talking
about
so
far
and
what
the
various
entities
are
are
looking
at,
so
that
this
our
scheduling
people
can
help.
I
You
set
those
up.
We
have
one
tomorrow
and
I
think
we
have
two
people
attending,
but
it
might
be
three.
We
have
council,
member,
dugan,
council,
member
fowler
and
count
okay
council
member
of
aldermoros,
too
okay,
so
anyway,
we
can
get
you
signed
up
for
those
whenever,
but
it
it
has
been
very
helpful.
I
think
to
have
that
opportunity.
I
Sorry,
you
asked
me
to
mention:
if
council
members
could
get,
let
us
know
when
they
will
be
out
of
town.
A
lot
of
people
are
planning
on
traveling
and
if
you
could
just
share
that
and
if,
if
we'll
be
able
to
reach
you
or
not,
that
that
will
just
help
us
to
to
know
what
lengths
to
go
to
to
try
to
reach
you.
B
And
also
just
for
the
hybrid
meetings
kind
of
we
have
an
idea,
so
no
tentative
close
sessions.
I
know
that's
disappointing,
but
no
attendance
closed
sessions,
so
the
work
session
is
adjourned.
Do
we
want
to
start
back
up
at
seven
o'clock
for
the
formal
session.