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From YouTube: Salt Lake City Council Work Session - 04/11/2023
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Welcome
to
today's
city
council
meeting,
we
continue
to
host
hybrid
meetings
to
keep
everyone
healthy
and
safe.
Our
meetings
are
public
and
you
are
welcome
to
join
us
in
person
on
Zoom
or
by
watching
from
the
council's
agenda
page
Facebook
YouTuber,
SLC
TV.
We
hope
you'll
continue
to
join
us
in
whatever
manner
you
feel
most
comfortable.
B
This
is
a
work
session
meeting
during
which
there's
no
public
comment.
Please
join
us
on
April
18th
during
our
7
PM
formal
meeting,
to
share
your
comments
and
we
of
course
welcome
your
feedback
anytime
to
by
mail
to
P.O
box,
145476,
Salt,
Lake,
City,
Utah
84114,
or
by
email
at
council.com,
into
slc.gov
or
via
our
24-hour
phone
comment
line.
801
535-7654
written
comments
we
receive
on
agenda
topics
are
shared
with
council
members
and
posted
on
our
website.
Slcc
council.com
a
note
about
our
April
18th
meeting.
B
It's
going
to
be
a
in-person
only
meeting
held
on
the
west
side
at
the
Utah
State
Fair
Park.
So
we
are
particularly
focusing
on
West
Side
related
topics
and
we're
excited
to
have
a
second
meeting
in
recent
history
in
person
on
the
west
side.
But
there
will
not
be
a
virtual
because
of
Technology
restriction.
There
will
not
be
a
virtual
option
for
that
meeting.
So
just
be
aware,
we
are
now
going
to
begin
our
work
session
and
the
first
agenda
item
is
item
one
updates
from
the
administration.
C
Us
today,
I
believe
that
you
have
our
slide
deck.
So
we'll
just
wait
for
that.
To
get
up
okay,
perfect,
we
can
hop
on
into
the
first
slide
if,
if
that's
all
right,
okay,
so
last
week
you
heard
a
lot
of
great
information
from
our
director
of
Public
Utilities
Laura
briefer
on
the
spring
flood
off
I
mean
spring
runoff
and
flooding
information.
C
That's
just
the
spring
flood
off,
so
all
of
that
said
she
shared
a
lot
of
great
information
and
that
information
was
also
shared
with
the
public
at
a
press
conference
yesterday
where
the
mayor
and
Laura
talked
about
some
of
the
preparations
and
differences
between
1983
and
2023,
the
bottom
line
is
that
with
the
drought
that
we're
in
plus
the
infrastructure
updates
that
have
been
made
since
83
we're
in
a
really
good
position
to
respond
to
the
needs
of
our
City's
residents,
as
well
as
mitigate
any
major
flooding
issues.
So
we
feel
good
about
it.
C
C
Gov
.gov
flood
and
that's
where
they
can
find
more
information
and
resources.
So
a
lot
of
great
information
on
that
page
and
then
some
links
out
to
the
county
flood
page
as
well,
which
is
really
helpful,
so
they
can
find
info
on
there
about
sandbagging
and
what
they
should
be
looking
for
at
their
home
in
regards
to
where
to
place
those
so
and
then
we
can
go
on
to
the
next
slide.
Oh
yes,.
E
E
If
you
know,
grab
sound
bags
or
make
your
own
and
whatnot
I'm
I'm
wondering
if
there
is
a
way
of
having
some
some
bagging
places
within
Salt,
Lake,
City
and
hopefully
places
near
the
river
or
you
know,
areas
yeah,
maybe
in
my
district
and
in
Victorious
District
or
you
know,
you
know
and
well
I
guess
all
of
us
have
like
some
areas.
I
wonder
if
there
is
a
way
of
creating
some
events
with
the
county,
where
this
is
closer
to
our
neighbors,
because
it
while
Midvale,
is
not
that
far.
E
C
C
Of
course,
happy
to
all
right
fun
slide.
Just
today
we
announced
pothole
palooza,
and
all
of
you
will
be
seeing
this
happening
in
your
various
districts.
It's
a
city-wide
effort,
intensive
week-long
effort
to
fill
potholes
throughout
the
city.
The
goal
of
our
Public
Services
Department
is
to
fill
6
000
potholes
this
week
alone,
which
is
a
lot,
but
also
not
a
lot
when
you
consider
that
this
winter
has
just
done
a
lot
to
our
streets.
Hasn't
it
so
you
know
some
stats
at
the
bottom
of
the
slide.
C
Potholes
filled
in
2022
for
the
whole
year
were
17
000,
almost
18
000
potholes
so
far
this
year
and
we're
only
in
April,
we've
already
filled
beyond
that.
A
thousand
beyond
that,
so
the
Public
Services
team
has
an
all
hands
on
deck
City
situation
where
all
60
employees
are
out
there
filling
potholes
they've
already
filled
over
a
thousand
since
yesterday.
So
we
expect
to
hit
that
goal.
C
C
If
anyone
from
the
public
wants
to
report
a
pothole,
there
are
a
number
of
ways
that
they
can
do
it.
They
can
email
our
streets
department,
they
can
submit
a
request
through
the
my
SLC
app.
They
can
call
the
streets
department
801-535-2345
or
they
can
even
come
into
the
building
and
Report
one.
But
a
fun
thing,
I
think
it's
fun
at
slc.gov,
my
street
people
can
track
the
process
or
the
you
know
the
progression
of
the
week.
C
B
C
C
G
C
E
I
remember:
last
year
we
talked
about
concrete
versus
Pavements
and
I.
Remember
a
question
from
councilmember
Dugan
that
concrete,
you
know
it's
less.
We
can
actually
work
on
with
concrete
more
time
through
the
year
than
less
with
payment.
There
needs
to
be
a
certain
temperatures
and
whatnot,
and
it
seems
to
me
that,
obviously
concrete
costs
more
and
but
it
lasts
longer
and
it
breaks
seems
like
it.
It
has
less
problems
with
potholes
I
guess
this
is
a
general
question.
E
I
mean
I'm,
throwing
it
out
there
I'm
now
asking
you
for
an
answer
right
now.
Obviously,
but
I
wonder
if
some
of
these
major
Surfers
that
seem
to
be,
you
know
2100,
South
or
600
North.
You
know
that
they
have
quite
a
bit
of
traffic
and
quite
a
bit
of
damage
from
this
winter.
I
wonder
if
there
is
a
plan
to
use
nicer
quality
products
like
concrete
and
and
that
will
last
longer
and
would
require
less
maintenance.
E
C
I
mean
our
our
Public
Services
Department
there.
There
are
a
lot
of
layers
when
it
comes
to
the
streets
and
why
they're
paved
the
way
that
they
are
and
why
the
specific
method
of
repair
is
being
chosen
to
extend
the
lifetime
of
the
street,
and
so
we
would
be
happy
to
get
you
that
information
of
the,
why
of
when
they
choose
concrete
versus
asphalt
and
because
I'm
I'm
sure
that
there's
a
great
reason
I
just
don't
know
it
off
the
top
of
my
head
appreciate
that.
Thank
you,
of
course,
all
right.
I
I
I
Additionally,
an
update
on
the
ballpark
next
design
competition
currently
we're
conducting
internal
reviews
of
design
application,
design
competition
applications
and
are
finalizing
the
timeline
for
the
public
online
voting
window
for
the
finalists.
A
public
winners
and
theme
celebration
event
is
anticipated
to
happen
at
the
end
of
May.
This
body
and
the
public
at
large
will
be
updated
when
both
the
voting
and
the
event
dates
are
confirmed.
Next
slide,
please.
I
I
Additionally,
an
update
on
Miller
Park
public
lands
closed
a
month-long
survey
in
early
March
to
assess
Community
priorities
for
wall
preservation
and
access
projects.
Public
lands
is
currently
assessing
and
summarizing
that
data
and
will
make
the
results
available
in
early
May
next
slide.
Please
an
update
from
sustainability.
On
the
other
side
Village,
the
sustainability
department
has
been
facilitating
the
environmental
assessments
for
the
tiny
home
Village
on
city
property
at
180
West,
Indiana
Avenue.
I
I
I
Lastly,
One
update
that
did
not
make
it
on
the
slides
and
I
apologize
for
that.
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
this
for
everyone
that
the
45-day
public
comment
period
for
housing
slcu,
which
is
the
city's
new
five-year
moderate
income
housing
plan
that
public
comment
period
ends
this
Sunday
April
16th.
So
for
anyone
who'd
like
to
provide
comment,
please
submit
your
comments
to
housing,
SLC
slcgov.com
by
the
end
of
the
day
on
April
16th,
and
that
plan
can
be
viewed
online
at
slc.gov
housing
SLC.
H
Of
course
yeah,
so
on
April
14th,
if
you
still
have
some
clothes
clothes
that
you
would
like
to
donate,
we'll
be
there
collecting
clothes
separating
them
and
putting
them,
giving
them
out
as
well,
but
also
we're
going
to
put
them
together
so
that
we
can
also
give
them
to
the
resource
center.
So
look
for
the
district
for
booth
and
come
for
hot
chocolate,
coffee
and
donuts
as
well,
and
talk
to
some
of
our
neighbors
homeless
neighbors
thanks.
B
Thank
you
all
right,
that's
it
for
the
administrative
updates.
Thank
you
for
all
that
information.
We're
moving
on
to
item
number
two,
which
is
an
ordinance
exacting
enacting
temporary
zoning
regulations
at
888,
South,
400
West.
We
have
Nick
tarbet
who
will
be
giving
us
an
introduction
to
this
and
Andrew
Johnson's.
Not
here
is
there
anyone
else
from
the
administration?
That's
going
to
present.
F
F
F
You
just
don't
want
to
see
sick
Andrew
on
the
screen.
Okay,
the
brief
intro.
This
is
a.
This
is
an
ordinance.
The
council
can
consider
enacting
the
temporary
zoning
regulation
for
the
Volunteers
of
America
youth
Resource
Center
at
approximately
888
South
400
West,
there's
already
a
temporary
ordinance
in
place
here.
The
request
is
to
extend
this
until
May
1st
2023..
F
B
This
is
for
additional
capacity
at
the
youth,
Resource
Center
on
9th
South
and
fourth
West.
Yes,
I
I'm.
Supportive
of
this
I
think
that
allowing
them
to
operate
through
the
weekend
have
a
few
extra
days.
I
I
have
not
heard
this
is
my
district
I.
It's
it's
newly
rezone
are
redistricted
into
my
district
and
I
have
not
heard
any
complaints
about
their
increased
capacity.
B
I
think
they've
from
what
I
understand
they
were
able
to
serve
more
youth
experiencing
homelessness
without
even
really
an
additional
Staffing
need,
and
it
was
everything
felt
reportedly
was
orderly
and
went
well.
So
I
would
actually
encourage
the
VOA
to
consider
I,
think
they're
already
considering
applying
for
amendment
to
their
conditional
use
permit,
which
is
which
would
allow
this
to
be
a
permanent
thing
so
that
they
can
that
great
facility
can
serve
more
youth
throughout
the
year,
not
just
on
an
emergency
basis.
B
B
Great
item
number
three
on
our
agenda
is
funding
allocations
for
the
one-year
action
plan
for
Community
Development
block
grant
other
federal
grants
for
fiscal
year
2023-2024.
This
is
a
follow-up
discussion.
Two
previous
discussions.
We
have
been
lootkey
Council
policy
analyst
as
well
as
Tony
Milner,
Dylan,
Hayes
and
Heather
Royale
from
housing
stability
here
to
help
us
work
through
this.
G
G
I
just
bumped
up
the
the
email
with
responses
to
your
questions
from
the
administration
since
it
was
sent
after
we
published
the
staff
report,
there
were
funding
shifts
the
council
discussed
at
the
last
briefing.
There
were
several
in
the
Public
Services
category,
but
we
could
start
with
the
housing
and
neighborhood
improvements
category
some
council
members
specifically
discussed
the
community
land
trust
also
called
the
shared
Equity
program.
G
G
So
if
the
council
wanted
to
shift
funding
away
from
number
six,
it
would
need
to
stay
in
the
housing
category
and
or
the
neighborhood
Improvement
category
there.
There
is
a
question
of
which
of
those
applications
could
take
on
additional
funding
and
the
additional
workload
I
think
additional
time
would
be
needed
to
to
check
with
each
of
the
applicants
for
their
ability
to
do
that.
But
there
are
a
couple
of
the
applications
that
are
from
the
housing
stability
division,
such
as
the
small
business
facade,
Improvement
program.
G
So
I
think
the
question
Mr
chair
is:
is
the
council
interested
in
shifting
some
or
all
of
the
four
hundred
and
six
thousand
dollars
away
from
housing
number
six?
If,
yes,
are
there
particular
applications,
you
would
want
to
shift
it
to,
or
would
you
like
the
administration
to
go
to
each
of
the
applicants,
ask?
Would
they
be
able
to
take
additional
funding
and
then
come
back
to
you
in
a
follow-up
briefing
to
say,
here's
the
different
feedback
for
each
of
the
applications?
B
B
We
need
to
continue
to
have
like
that
discussion,
but
in
terms
of
this
I'm
comfortable
keeping
the
money
in
this
area
for
now
allow
these
activities
continue,
as
we
have
the
larger
discussion
as
to
how
to
be
most
efficient
with
our
community
land
trust
but
I.
Think
for
me,
I'm,
okay
with
this,
but
is
there
anyone
that
is
wanting
to
do
what
banks
have
been
suggested.
K
G
L
M
D
I
would
say,
that's
a
little
bit
more
difficult
because
we
have
to
submit
an
annual
action
plan
to
HUD
by
May
15th
and
there
has
to
be
funding
allocated
to
specific
projects
and
activities
by
then.
But
we
could
certainly
allocate
it
to
a
project
or
activity
and
then
come
back
through
a
substantial
Amendment
and
make
that
change.
But
that
would
be
up
to
the
council.
K
K
So
if
we
came
back
later
and
said,
you
know
what
we
really
think
that
the
Community
Land
Trust
here
in
the
in
housing
stability,
division,
I'm
going
to
get
used
to
it
one
day,
maybe
is
sort
of
this
money
and
the
purpose
looks
like
it
might
fall
more
in
line
with
some
of
the
wealth
generating
and
and
Perpetual
land
stuff
that
we're
doing
over
here.
Could
that
be
transferred
without
an
amendment,
because
it
would
still
fall
under
the
purpose
for
which
we
provided
HUD
with
the
action
plan.
Yes,.
K
Partner
is
okay,
so
I
guess
Mr,
chair
I
would
be
comfortable
leaving
this
here,
but
with
sort
of
a
legislative
intent
of
coming
back
to
this.
All
of
the
other
programs
are
sort
of
already
set
in
stone,
or
many
of
them
are
right.
We
can
allocate
the
money
go
out
and
do
this.
This
seems
like
still
in
that
phase,
where
we
don't
know
what's
going
on
with
it,
and
so
I
would
want
like
some
sort
of
legislative
intent
that
we'd
come
back
and
look
at
this
before
it's
spent.
B
O
B
I'll
we
can
have
the
answer
that
offline,
but
yeah
I
think
for
the
purposes
of
this,
knowing
that
we
can
allocate
the
money
to
the
Community
Land
Trust
Community,
Land
Trust
itself
can
be
flexible
in
terms
of
what
happens
with
it
in
the
future,
but
we
I
I,
don't
think
there's
anyone
saying
they
do
not
want
a
Community
Land
Trust
anywhere.
Is
there
I
I?
Certainly
am
not
there
I
want
the
community
Landers
I
want
it
to
be
stronger
and
bigger.
So
I
would
like
to
keep
it
in
here.
E
G
N
P
O
B
Think
that's
true.
The
reason
why
I
ask
that
we
switch
it
from
the
in-between,
though,
is
again.
These
are
all
good
programs.
None
of
them
are
not
important,
but
for
me,
I
think
I
would
prefer
to
provide
end
of
life
hospice
care
for
this
group
and
if
we
take
a
little
bit
away
from
the
dental
and
we
the
55
000
proposed
for
donated
Dental
is
the
most
that
has
been
proposed
in
the
last
five
years,
so
we
would
still
be
funding
it
at
nearly
the
same
level
that
we
have
for
the
last
five
years.
B
K
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
the
unit
funding
from
the
state
and
I
I
don't
want
to
I
mean
taking
5
000
from
Dental.
It
is
important,
but
there
was
funding
given
and
if
we
kind
of
take
I
mean
this
is
what
we
discussed
at
the
last
meeting.
If
we
take
a
little
bit
from
everywhere,
then
we
get
to
fund
a
little
bit
more
and
and
there
I
don't
want
us
to
forget
that
the
in
between
did
get
funding
from
the
state
and
it's
not
like
we're
cutting
all
of
their
funding.
M
D
Can
I
address
that
question,
unfortunately,
because
of
the
nature
of
those
dormant
program,
income
funds
and
the
way
that
they
have
been
handled
over
the
years?
Because
Administration
and
public
services
are
hard
tied
to
a
program
year,
we've
lost
the
ability
to
use
those
funds
for
either
of
those
activities
either
Administration
or
public
services.
H
G
So
my
understanding
is
when
we're
talking
about
the
HUD
dormant
funds
on
attachment
four
we're
talking
about
several
different
funding
sources.
I
think
the
response
you
just
gave
was
specific
only
to
the
5.7
cdbg
and
the
8.6
million
for
home
on
page
two
of
attachment.
Four,
there
are
three
other
funding
sources
that
we've
referred
to
as
dormant
program
income,
which
are
not
restricted.
Similarly,
as
the
other
funds
you
just
referenced,
so
I
think
it
is
possible
to
do
what
council
member
Petro
discussed,
but
it
wouldn't
be
an
option
for
every
dormant
fund.
M
E
Oh
I
mean
as
as
Mr
chair
in
the
previous
meeting.
I
will
be
supportive
of
and
if
you
know,
if
there
is
consensus
here
to
find
some
Middle
Ground
here
by
maybe
making
making
up
that
difference
with
some
Journal
funding
for
the
ten
thousand
dollar
difference
and
see
if
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
cut
more.
But
we
show
the
commitment
from
this
City
to
these
programs.
So
we
shift
some
of
the
funds
around.
But
then
we
make
up
the
difference
from
the
general
fund.
E
L
L
The
areas
that
were
were
looking
to
shift
funds
to
can
I
hear
like
again.
Why
we're
like
other
than
just
blankly,
saying
that
these
are
serving
areas
that
are
that
are
different
like
a
lot
that
can
be
said
of
a
lot
of
these
like
I?
Guess
I
just
want
to
hear
more
about
why
we
feel
like
spreading
the
peanut
butter
is
the
better
use
of
the
funds,
because,
maybe
you
know
in
some
places
you
need
the
peanut
butter
to
be
a
little
thicker
or
another
place
is
not.
K
Mr
chair
for
Fowler,
thank
you
as
a
proponent
of
and
sort
of
I
think
pushing
and
talking
with
councilmember
Petro
about
this
of
at
least
number
seven
is
important
to
me
because,
as
we,
the
one
The
Odyssey
House
deals
with
a
different
population
than
the
first
step.
House
does
necessarily
and
I
truly
believe
that
we
have.
K
We
need
to
make
mental
health
a
priority
among
people
who
are
struggling
not
only
with
mental
health,
but
probably
with
substance
abuse
disorders
and
as
a
full-time
criminal,
defense
attorney
I.
Look
at
these
programs
and
I
look
at
the
benefits
that
every
single
one
of
these
programs
are
able
to
offer
and
the
more
that
we
can
have
those
programs
to
benefit
different
people
instead
of
a
particular
population
but
actually
widen
those
that
population
that
can
benefit.
K
Then
there
is
a
lot
of
good
that
comes
out
of
this,
including
reduced
recidivism,
actually,
people
getting
the
resources
and
the
help
that
they
need
and
I
don't
think
that
30
000
goes
enough,
but
it
will
at
least
start
and
continue
that
program.
This
is
never.
This
is
a
new
application
for
the
Odyssey
house.
But
again,
having
worked
very
closely
with
them,
having
seen
my
clients
go
through
their
other
programs
and
having
a
new
sort
of
Avenue
for
them.
K
I
think
that
this
is
incredibly
incredibly
important
and
something
that
we
continue
to
talk
about
when
we
went
up
on
the
hill.
We
talked
about
all
of
these
different
response
models
and
one
being
how
we're
addressing
mental
health
and
and
people
who
need
that
very
acute
Mental,
Health
Resource
to
then
get
back
into
like
get
back
on
their
feet.
So
I
like
I,
will
die
on
my
sword
for
the
this
at
money,
because
it
is
so
important
for
our
community.
N
Thank
you
number,
eight.
Sorry.
The
reason
I
am
advocating
so
passionately
for
this
is
that
the
Somali
and
Sudanese
Refugee
population
is
predominantly
located
in
the
Jordan
Meadows
area.
They
were
my
neighbors
when
I
was
in
the
town
homes
and
the
efficiency
with
which
someone
from
their
own
culture
can
access
and
help
them
gain
access
to
the
services
needed,
as
opposed
to
funding
someone
else
who
might
have
to
go
in
and
build
trust.
This
is
money
well
spent.
This
is
bang
for
our
buck.
N
This
is
investing
in
the
people
who
literally
speak
the
language
of
people
who
we
have
difficulty
engaging
from
a
systemic
position
and
I've
been
the
small
provider
that
looks
like
the
people.
I
was
serving
and
I
got
to
tell
you
every
time
you
gave
me
a
dollar
I
made
it
look
like
10
and
that's
exactly
what
this
kind
of
organization
is
poised
to
do
for
us.
Mr.
E
Chair
yep,
councilmember
and
I
would
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
Aid
as
well
I.
Some
of
these
organizations
and
I
think
it
goes
back
to
what
councilmember
father
mentioned.
Some
of
these
organizations
are
struggling
to
find
resources
in
other
ways,
and
some
of
these
organizations
that
we
might
be
suggesting
to
Make,
Some
Cuts
might
have
received
leave
funds
from
the
state
and
I
know
that
the
Salt
Lake,
American
and
they're
struggling
because
their
narrow
purpose
and
many
of
these
many
of
the
in
this
refugees
live
on
on
the
west
side.
B
K
K
N
Almost
like
you're
reading
my
mind,
because
my
comment
is
that
we
talk
about
sustainability
of
these
orgs
and
the
things
that
are
sustainable
are
the
things
that
we
invest
in
the
number
of
times
that
large
established
organizations
get
marked
down
for
their
track
record
or
sustainability,
and
then
therefore
get
more
funds
and
other
people
who
are
trying
to
emerge
into
this
space,
especially
like
this
person,
who
is
himself
an
immigrant
who
is
himself
carrying
the
trauma
of
all
the
experiences
that
brought
him
here
again.
Investing
in
this
is
developing
a
diversified
non-profit
sector.
N
P
I
really
appreciate
what
doug
Chris
is
getting
at.
Here
is
also
that
you
know
they
do.
We
really
need
to
look
at
the
grading
scale.
These
didn't
do
as
well,
but
they're
also
new,
and
that
sometimes
happens
is
that
the
newer
programs
don't
do
well
as
a
grading
scale,
because
the
application
process
probably
wasn't
as
well
done,
but
I'm
also
looking
at
right
now.
If
we
I
think
there's
a
consensus
that
we
want
to
fund
these
two
I'm
all
for
it.
P
B
L
I
guess
there's
something
to
be
said
for
like
compounding
of
assets
and,
and
so
I
just
want
to
be
like
be
conscious
of
that.
I.
Don't
know
that
any
of
these
other
programs
that
we're
talking
about
if
they
have
received
funds
from
other
places,
I
think
I
understand
the
point
about
First
Step
house.
We
can
look
that
there
are
a
number
of
times
that
they
appear
on
our
applications,
where
we
know
that
they
are
receiving
funding.
L
So
if
we
know
that
these
other
organizations
are
not
or
if
they're
they're
not
receiving
funding
like
from
the
county
or
the
state
or
whatever
I,
if
you,
if
anybody
knows
that
about
any
of
these,
then
I
would
be
curious
to
know
that,
but
also
I
think
that
I
appreciate
what
Dan's
saying
that,
if
it
is
just
a
matter
of
ten
thousand
dollars,
it
might
be
easier
to
just
do
a
one-time
supplement
from
the
general
fund
rather
than
taking
money,
then
trying
to
be
spread
trying
to
diversify
the
base.
If
that
makes
sense,.
A
B
We
would
need
a.
We
would
need
a
budget
amendment,
so
we
have
to
balance
this
budget
here
regardless,
and
we
have
to
figure
out
how
to
do
that.
If
we're
going
to
fund
these
two
now
correct
this
action,
so
yeah
I
think
we
all
think
sure,
let's
use
a
little
bit
of
general
fund
or
fund
balance
to
I
I,
don't
know
that
we
all
think
that.
B
Number
two
goes
down
to
thirty
thousand
number:
three
goes
down
to
thirty
thousand
and
number
nine
and
14
both
reduced
by
five
thousand
three
hundred
and
eight
dollars
and
we're
funding
numbers
seven
and
eight
at
thirty
thousand.
Each
is
everyone
clear
on
the
straw
poll.
Okay,
show
your
feelings:
that's
seven
yeses!
So
that
passes.
G
N
B
You
loaded
great,
so
that
is
the
end
of
item
number
three.
Thank
you
Ben
and
hand
housing
stability
staff.
We
did
it.
We
are
moving
on
to
item
number
four,
which
is
item
about
our
first
issuance
of
the
general
obligation
bond
for
Parks
trails
and
open
space.
This
is
very
exciting.
Ben
is
still
with
us
from
Council
policy
staff.
Let's
see
is
Kristen
here
we
have
Tom
Millar
from
a
planning
manager
in
public
lands,
Kristen
I,
see
in
the
audience
and
Tyler
Murdoch
Maybe
great,
oh
hi,
Tyler
Ben.
G
G
The
remaining
60
million
is
expected
to
be
split
into
two
or
three
later
issuances.
This
is
done
to
ensure
that
the
city
is
able
to
use
the
funds
within
a
reasonable
time,
preferably
three
years
or
so
once
a
general
obligation
bond
is
issued,
it's
typically
paid
back
over
20
years,
and
because
this
is
a
geo
Bond,
it's
voters
authorizing
an
additional
dedicated
property
tax
on
themselves.
That
is
used
specifically
to
pay
back
that
Geo
Bond
after
the
20
years.
Once
the
bond
is
paid
off,
that
dedicated
property
tax
ends
as
well.
G
G
Note
that
some
of
the
projects
would
be
fully
funded
in
this
first
issuance,
particularly
the
playground
replacement
at
Liberty
Park.
Most
of
the
other
projects
would
be
partially
funded,
so
some
of
this
would
be
limited
to
public
engagement,
planning
and
design,
and
construction
would
be
in
a
later
Bond
issuance.
G
The
council
does
have
authority
to
modify
any
of
the
projects
within
the
voter
authorized
language.
The
ballot
language
that
was
approved
is
at
the
end
of
the
staff
report.
If
you
wanted
to
take
a
look
at
that,
so
if
there's
a
project,
you
wanted
to
change
the
scope,
change
the
project
itself
or
the
dollar
amount.
All
of
that
is
within
your
Authority.
G
This
would
come
to
you
in
a
new
briefing
and
the
parameters
resolution
needs
to
be
adopted
by
the
council,
which
authorizes
the
sale
of
the
bonds
once
the
bonds
are
sold.
Then
the
final
approval
from
the
council
is
in
a
budget
opening
to
accept
the
receipt
of
those
bond
funds
and
authorize
the
expenses
for
specific
projects.
G
There
are
several
policy
questions
on
page
five
of
the
staff
report.
I'll
touch
on
a
couple:
real
quick.
How
should
the
neighborhood
parks
funding
with
at
least
one
in
each
Council
District?
How
should
those
funds
be
sequenced,
since
it's
unlikely
to
be
able
to
do
one
in
each
district?
At
the
same
time,.
B
Q
The
the
number
really
doesn't
just
depend
on
the
other
neighborhood
park
projects.
It
will
depend
on
the
the
status
and
and
how
the
remaining
you
know,
few
dozen
projects
of
the
entire
Bond
go.
At
this
point,
our
recommendation,
which
is
in
the
transmetal,
says
the
following:
that
the
the
council
districts
with
fewer
or
no
other
Geo
Bond
funded
projects
be
prioritized
to
at
least
move
beyond
the
design
and
engagement
phase
faster
and
into
construction.
Q
Obviously,
all
of
the
projects
would
need
to
have
some
level
of
Engagement
and
design
done
before
we
could
have
a
clear
vision
of
of
prioritization
and
then
I.
Guess,
conversely,
that
the
projects
or
sorry
the
districts
that
have
the
most
projects
funded
by
the
bond
or
the
greatest
amount
of
bond
funds
dedicated
to
projects
in
the
in
those
districts
could
be
prioritize
later
in
the
in
the
I.
Guess
the
overall
project
schedule
for
Bond
implementation.
B
P
B
N
I
think
the
other
argument
to
be
made,
though,
is
that
Glendale
park
is
at
the
very
southern
tip
of
our
west
side
and
the
part
of
the
West
Side.
That's
feeling
tremendous
stress
is
that
which
borders
both
the
river
trail
and
North
Temple,
and
so
the
District
Two
Parks
that
have
been
chosen
which
Madsen
the
peace
Gardens.
N
Those
are
places
for
people
who
don't
have
a
high
likelihood
of
being
able
to
travel
down
to
the
southern
part
or
don't
have
five
years
to
wait
before
they
can
enjoy
the
outdoors,
and
so
we
might
have
historic,
redlining,
Rights
and
Wrongs
to
attend
to
before
necessarily
eat
completely
equal
distribution
across
the
districts.
You.
E
Is
there
any
way
to
find
out
some
of
these
Sparks
one
was
the
last
time
that
this
amount
of
money
was
invested,
maybe
the
historical
piece
to
it,
because
maybe
that
is
a
way
of
also
doing
the
same
thing
in
a
different
way,
so
investing
the
money
and
the
and
in
the
and
starting
the
community
engagement
and
the
parks
that
were
the
least
or
the
further
away
since
they
last
saw
a
significant
investment
and
I.
Don't
know
if
we
have
that
information.
Q
R
That
all
the
every
project
is
important
to
someone
very
important,
and
we
get
that
and
that's
why
we
have
two
planners
dedicated
to
the
bond
and
we're
going
to
try
to
work
on
all
of
the
projects
and
they
will
they'll
take
on
a
little
bit
of
a
life
of
their
own.
You
know
every
project
has
different
issues
and
different
challenges
and
some
will
move
quicker
quicker
than
others,
but
I
know
Tom
and
his
team
are
really
dedicated
to
try
to
get
all
these
projects
moving
as
quickly
as
possible,
and
you
know
it.
R
B
I'm
comfortable
with
hearing
that
and
saying
it's
great
go
ahead.
Thank
you
thanks,
I
I
think
I.
You
have
I
think
your
team
has
proven
to
connect
with
us
a
lot
and
to
seek
input.
So
I
don't
feel
like
I
need
a
really
strong
legislative
hand
in
this
saying
You
must
do
this
first
and
then
that
is
that
okay,
council
members,
okay,
thank.
G
You,
the
two
other
policy
questions
I
wanted
to
highlight,
are
about
combining
smaller
Parks
into
a
bigger
Park.
This
this
was
brought
up
in
previous
conversations
in
two
contexts.
One
is
in
District
three
for
Warm
Springs
Park,
which
is
on
the
like
Southeastern
side
of
the
Wasatch
Springs
historic,
plunge,
building
and
North
Gateway
Park,
which
is
on
the
other
side
of
the
building,
that's
actually
where
the
warms
spring
itself
is
located.
So
the
idea
came
up
about
combining
them,
which
may
require
Council
approval
like
an
ordinance
Amendment
or
a
lot
line
adjustment.
G
The
other
context
is
in
District
Two,
where
creating
the
new
Glendale
Regional
Park
and
then
across
1700
South,
there's
another
existing
Park
combining
those
into
one
Glendale
park.
I
wanted
to
point
that
out,
since
it
likely
would
require
Council
action
if
there
is
support
for
either
the
other
policy
question
is
about
the
fleet
block
whether
the
council
wanted
to
add
a
requirement
that
the
bond
funds
only
be
spent
on
park
space
or
if
you
are
comfortable,
having
some
more
flexibility
in
not
necessarily
a
park,
but
something
else
whether
it
would
be
a
plaza
or
another.
G
Another
idea
staff's
recollection
as
the
council
had
a
preference
for
park
space,
but
we
wanted
to
highlight
for
you
if
you
wanted
to
limit
the
bond
funds
one
way
or
the
other,
it
would
be
helpful
to
know
that's
everything
for
my
intro
I
know.
Tom
has
a
presentation
with
an
overview
about
all
of
the
proposed
projects
in
the
bond.
B
Q
No,
the
the
idea
is
to
have
one
Consolidated
public
space
if
we
call
it
a
park
and
if
it's
designed
like
a
park
it
does
have,
it
does
trigger
some
restrictions
on
adjacent
land
uses
and
alcohol
sales.
Specifically,
if
it's
a
plaza
or
a
square
or
something
that
isn't
like
you
know
a
playground
in
Grass,
then
it
may
not
trigger
those
same
laws.
B
Okay,
so
you're
not
familiar
with
that
discussion.
I
personally,
don't
want
to
limit
the
sale
of
alcohol
in
that
area
is
like
there's
breweries
that
are
already
right.
There
I'd
I
like
that
idea,
but
if
we
say
we're
going
to
go
with
the
plaza
route
instead
of
the
park
route,
does
that
mean
your
team
cannot
work
on
it
or
your
team
can
manage
a
plaza
as
well
as
it
can
manage
a
park
right?
We.
R
B
B
A
Q
We
would
love
your
presentation
there.
It
goes
there,
it
goes
and
some
of
the
we
just
developed
a
new
style
guide
for
the
public
lands
department,
and
so
some
of
the
formatting
and
fonts
will
be
a
little
iffy
on
on
this
presentation
on
the
board.
So
the
the
more
formatted
version
is
in
the
public
materials
that'll
be
shared
afterward,
but
content's
still
the
same.
Q
So
basically,
as
Ben
said,
the
the
request
today
is
to
discuss
and
to
approve
the
first
tranche
of
the
Geo
Bond
and
the
the
projects
that
it
suggests.
So
this
is
the
breakdown
of
that
24.6
million.
That
Ben
mentioned,
which
is
29
of
the
Total
Bond
funding
19.6
will
go
to
projects
and
then
about
five.
Just
a
little
bit
over
five
million
will
go
to
contingency
I'll,
speak
to
what
how
these
break
down
and
what
we
mean
by
contingency
in
projects
in
just
a
second
slide.
Q
Q
This
is
a
map
that
we
shared
with
the
public
in
October
and
November,
when
we
were
doing
the
voter
information
pamphlet
and
the
public
engagement
numbers.
One
and
two
are
a
little
bit
fuzzy,
because
the
reimagined
neighborhood
parks
are
sort
of
going
everywhere
right,
at
least
one
in
each
Council
district
and
then
the
Jordan
River
improvements
are
are
linear.
Improvements
that
happen
anywhere
along
that
along
that
Jordan
River
corridor
slide.
Q
Q
See
there
we
go,
there's
the
formatting,
it
says:
Liberty
Park
playground.
Yes,
the
what
we're
requesting
is
100
of
the
funding
that
was
that
was
decided
to
go
to
Liberty
Park
playground.
This
would
go
from
Community
engagement
and
design
all
the
way
into
construction
or
reconstruction
of
that
entire
playground
area,
which
is
north
of
the
basketball
court
and
the
bocce
in
horseshoes
area
slide.
Q
850
000,
or
about
nineteen
percent
of
the
Allen
Park
funding
from
the
bond
will
go
to
develop
the
construction
documents
for
projects
that
are
identified
in
the
now
ongoing
adaptive,
reuse
and
management
plan,
as
well
as
construction
of
critical
landscaping
and
utility
projects
that
are
currently
being
designed
Construction
for
those
phase.
One
projects
that
would
be
designed
with
this
funding
would
be
requested
in
the
second
trunch
slide.
Q
Some
tentatively
good
news
has
led
us
to
request
100
of
the
Folsom
Trail
funding
that
was
identified.
That's
all
five
million.
This
would
sort
of
split
into
two
projects.
One
would
be
Landscaping
the
existing
Folsom
Trail
between
500
West
and
a
thousand
West,
and
the
second
part
of
the
project
would
be
completing
the
Folsom
Trail
between
1000
West
and
the
Jordan
River
Parkway,
as
well
as
the
Fisher
Mansion
slide.
Q
Here's
our
very
unsexy
intentionally
vague
title
for
this
project
so
that
nobody
gets
too
emotionally
attached
to
it.
10
is
a
a
pretty
rough
estimate
that
we
use
for
design
and
engagement
of
projects.
So
we
anticipate
that
this
would
go
to
the
the
artists
designers
Community
engagement,
Specialists.
That
would
help
us
to
identify
what
the
public
wants
in
this
Public
public
space
at
Fleet
block
and
then
the
remaining
five
million
400
000
would
go
to
construction
of
those
improvements.
Q
Q
All
right,
third
to
last
Fairmont
Park.
We
are
also
requesting
10
for
a
very
similar
purpose,
design,
engagement
and,
and
especially,
stakeholder
engagement,
as
we
have
a
lot
of
stakeholders
there
on
the
north
side
of
Fairmont
Park,
where
this
project
is
focused,
namely
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club,
the
county,
with
their
recreation
facility
and
and
others
that
are
interested
in
that
site
slide.
Q
The
reimagine
neighborhood
parks,
trails
and
Open
Spaces
that
we
discussed
these
are
12
to
14
sites
that
were
selected
over
the
past
few
months.
We're
also
requesting
10
to
do
very
similar
engagement
and
design
around
all
of
these
and
I'll
talk
about
the
specific
projects
here
in
a
second,
but
the
criteria
that
we
use
to
select
these
projects
are
Myriad,
I
I
think
have
at
least
a
dozen
here
on
my
on
my
screen.
Q
These
are
parks,
Trails
or
Open
Spaces
that
are
under
resourced
and
sometimes
underutilized
that
have
had
a
lack
of
investment.
Recently,
as
we
just
discussed,
they
have
an
opportunity
to
improve
access
and
activation
an
opportunity
to
reduce
demand
at
larger
Parks
consistency
with
the
reimagined
neighborhood
Park's
goal
in
the
public
lands
master
plan
or
the
reimagined
nature
plan,
as
well
as
serving
Parks,
Trails
or
Open
Spaces
that
are
in
our
2019
needs
assessments.
Q
G
Just
wanted
to
interject
real
quick
to
say
in
a
few
months
when
the
council
is
looking
at
CIP,
you
will
notice
some
overlap
between
applications
in
CIP
and
this
list
I
think
some
of
you
are
already
aware
of
those,
and
sometimes
that's
that's
good.
You
want
to
leverage
multiple
funding
sources
to
have
more
funding
for
these
projects,
so
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
for
later
this
year,.
Q
The
Jordan
River
Corridor
is
currently
funded
for
oh
slide.
Sorry,
it's
currently
funded
for
what
we're
calling
the
emerald
ribbon
master
plan,
so
we
don't
have
any
Master
planning
or
concept
design
funding
requested
as
part
of
the
first
tranche.
As
soon
as
that
Emerald
ribbon
master
plan
is
completed,
we
will
do
a
design
of
those
High
most
highly
recommended
projects
or
activities
along
the
Jordan,
River,
Corridor
and
and
that
request
would
come
through
the
second
tranche.
Q
The
reason
why
we're
asking
for
six
hundred
thousand
is
that
there's
an
immediate
opportunity
to
invest
bond
funds
along
the
Jordan
River
for
an
existing
project,
which
is
the
Bachmann
Community
open
space
in
order
to
make
that
sort
of
the
Grand
Vision.
You
know
all
the
bells
and
whistles
that
that
came
out
of
the
engagement
and
design
process
rather
than
having
to
scale
back
and
and
making
it
a
little
bit
more
of
a
lackluster
project.
Q
Q
Q
This
is
an
overview
of
the
contingency
a
little
bit
over
5
million
or
about
31
of
the
16
million
total
in
contingency
bond
funds.
3.3
million
of
this
goes
to
project
cost
contingencies
about
a
15
contingency,
as
well
as
the
engineering
divisions
consultant
program
management.
Instead
of
hiring
staff
specifically
for
the
bond
projects,
they
would
be
having
third-party
Consultants
help
with
this
managed
by
that
senior
project
manager
that
was
requested
earlier
this
year.
In
addition,
one
and
a
half
percent
for
art
is
requested
in
the
contingency.
Q
The
last
slide
that
I
have
is
in
case.
There
are
questions
about
operations
and
maintenance.
We
will
know
what
the
operations
and
maintenance
budgets
are
likely
to
be
once
we're
completed
once
we
have
completed
the
design
phases
of
these
projects
and
then
those
requests
would
come
to
the
council
through
the
normal
budget
insight
and
an
annual
budget
request
process.
Q
Q
See
even
I
do
it.
Glendale
is
not
a
park
right
now.
Allen
Park
is
a
park
right
now,
but
is
not
in
the
condition
that
it
will
be
once
the
bond
funds
are
are
implemented.
So
those
are
probably
some
of
the
bigger
requests
that
you'll
see
but
again,
we'll
have
more
detailed
information
as
those
projects
Move
Along,
and
that's
it
for
me,.
B
B
Q
Q
B
G
H
G
P
P
P
H
B
Alzheimer's
indicate
where
you
are
on
the
straw
poll:
yes,
that's
six
yeses
one
or
one
absent
so
go
yay
go
ahead!
Thank
you.
We're
a
little
bit
ahead
of
schedule.
Does
anyone
need
a
break
or
should
we?
How
should
we
power
through
okay?
Let's
do
a
quick,
five
minute,
bathroom
break
and
then
we'll
be
on
to
the
convention.
Tourism?
Do
we
have
everyone
here
that
needs
to
be
here
for
that
I
think
so?
Okay,
great
so
five
minute
break
and
then
we'll
come
back
to
item
number
five.
G
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
B
S
I'm
going
to
give
a
brief
introduction
and
then
I'll,
let
these
gentlemen
introduce
themselves
the
resolution.
That's
before
the
council
today
enables
a
tool
that
several
downtown
Salt,
Lake,
City
hotels
and
visit
Salt
Lake
advocated
for
and
that
the
state
legislature
created
in
2022.
It's
called
the
convention
and
tourism
assessment
area
ctaa.
S
The
council's
role
in
this
tool
is
a
little
bit
tangential.
It's
essentially
to
consider
this
resolution
and
once
adopted
it
would
enable
this
organization,
the
ctaa
to
enact
a
fee
or
a
surcharge
on
hotels
within
the
boundary
in
Salt
Lake
City.
That
map
is
outlined
in
the
staff
report,
so
you
can
see
sort
of
where
the
hotels
are
located.
That
would
have
this
fee.
S
It
allows
the
county
to
contract
with
a
third
party
in
this
case
that
third
party
would
likely
be
visit,
Salt
Lake,
which
would
then
enact
two
percent
surcharge
on
all
hotel
room
rentals
within
each
of
the
boundaries,
as
shown
on
the
map.
It
doesn't
affect
any
current
city
revenue
for
either
the
state
city
or
county,
and
it's
an
additional
charge
that
the
hotels
would
enact
and
essentially
manage
themselves.
S
This
money
would
be
overseen
by
a
committee
which
would
be
made
up
of
Hotel
operators
and,
at
their
discretion
other
key
Community
stakeholders,
the
transmittal,
that's
in
your
packet,
includes
a
very
detailed
management
plan
and
budget
projection
of
how
that
money
would
be
collected
and
spent,
but
in
general
it's
for
promotional
activities
and
Investments
that
would
drive
interest
in
visitation
in
Salt,
Lake
County.
So
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
these
gentlemen,
you
answered
a
lot
of
questions.
J
You,
as
mentioned
Mark,
White
I
work
with
visit,
Salt
Lake
and,
to
my
far
right,
is
Mark.
Mondell
Mark
is
the
general
manager
of
the
Little
America
Hotel,
and
to
my
immediate
right,
Chris
Erickson
who's,
the
general
manager
of
the
Grand
America
Hotel,
and
who
serves
on
our
board
of
directors.
So,
as
mentioned,
the
ctaa,
we
feel
will
put
us
in
a
more
competitive
position
as
we
go
out
to
pursue
large
conventions,
trade
shows,
meetings
and
sports
events.
J
When
we
compare
our
budget
of
12
million
dollars
to
the
cities
that
we
compete
against
for
that
type
of
business,
we're
showing
up
at
the
the
gunslinging
fight
with
a
pocket
knife,
our
budget
is
12
million
dollars.
Most
of
the
Cities.
We
compete
against
have
budgets
that
range
from
two
to
five
times
that
we
are
funded
primarily
by
a
transient
room
tax
that
the
county
collects
and
that
total
room
tax,
including
so
the
total
tax.
A
guest
pays,
including
that
transient
room
tax
in
Salt
Lake
is
13.82
percent.
J
With
this
proposed
two
percent
assessment
that
takes
us
to
15.82
percent,
which
is
the
national
average.
We
don't
want
to
be
above
that,
but
we
certainly
don't
want
to
be
below
that
and
leave
leave
potential
promotional
monies
on
the
table,
so
these
funds
would
be
collected
on
a
quarterly
basis
from
the
all
of
the
hotels
and
Salt
Lake
in
Salt
Lake
City.
J
Then
those
funds
are
managed
by
Chris,
Mark
and
their
counterparts.
They
determine
how
those
funds
are
spent,
and
then
we
follow
their
their
directive.
So
I'll
give
just
maybe
three
bucket
type
examples.
They
could
be
used
for
marketing.
We
may
create
fund
or
a
promotion
that
encourages
a
convention
delegate
to
stay.
One
day
later
after
the
convention,
we
may
create
bounce
back
programs
to
lure
those
convention
planners
to
come
back
or
those
Convention
of
delegates
to
come
back
with
their
families.
J
We
could
use
those
funds
for
sales
purposes.
For
example,
we
may
be
pursuing
a
large
high-end
convention
that
requires
us
to
host
their
closing
night
reception
the
year
before
they
come
to
Salt
Lake
we
may
identify
trade
shows
that
we
want
to
have
a
larger
Presence
at
as
we
go
out
and
pursue
conventions,
and
the
third
bucket
would
be,
let's
call
it
visitor
enhancements.
So,
during
a
large
convention
we
might
want
to
use
those
funds
to
have
some
live
music
on
on
street
corners.
J
We
might
want
to
increase
our
contribution
to
the
street
ambassador
program
to
make
that
more
robust,
but
there's
a
wide
range
of
what
those
what
the
hoteliers
can
choose
to
do
and
I
particularly
like
this,
because
they're
the
ones
deciding
how
those
how
those
funds
are
spent,
so
hopefully
that
and
Chris
might
be
able
to
add
some
some
context
here.
He
came
to
us
from
Portland
about
10
years
ago,
where
they
put
together
a
ctaa
and
it
was
it
enhanced
their
marketing
effort
significantly.
T
So,
thank
you.
Council
I'll
make
this
very
brief.
I
might
say
this
is
just
a
tried
and
true
business
model
that
puts
another
tool
in
our
toolbox.
Tens
of
cities
and
entities
have
used
this
model
to
enhance
their
budget
and
Portland.
Basically,
it
doubled
their
budget
in
one
year
and
suddenly
it
propelled
that
City
to
be
on
the
kind
of
a
more
elevated
presence
in
the
marketing,
Arena
and
I'm
excited
for
it.
This
would
be
transformational
for
our
industry.
B
Great
so
Jennifer
I
have
a
question
I'm
hearing
a
lot
of
different
organizations,
so
this
is
money
collected
into
the
county
and
the
county.
Has
a
bank
account
visit?
Salt
Lake
is
what
I'm
confused
is
it
Salt
Lake
is
and
then
what
the
private
Hotel
operators
the
con
that
create.
This
board
like
how
do
these
all
these
different
shirts
for
sure.
J
Visit
Salt
Lake
is
a
non-profit
organization
that
is
based
in
the
South
Palace
Convention
Center,
and
we're
tasked
with
attracting
all
types
of
visitors.
Leisure,
Travelers,
skiers,
trade
shows
conventions,
meetings
that
might
be
self-contained
at
some
of
the
larger
hotels
sports
events.
Also.
So
this
so
we
have
our
own
dedicated
funding
source
that
comes
from
the
county,
that
transient
room
tax,
These
funds.
That
would
be
an
assessment
charged
by
all
Salt
Lake
County,
we're
working
toward
creating
these
districts
throughout
Salt,
Lake
County.
B
So
I'm
not
suggesting
that
this
is
this
dynamic
in
Salt
Lake
City,
but
could
what?
What
are
the
mechanisms
that
keep
like
front
in
the
most?
Like
worst
case
scenario,
I
can
see
a
City
operating
in
a
way
that
a
bunch
of
money
is
collected
from
all
hotels,
and
it
goes
to
these
like
four
different
people
that
happen
to
land
themselves
on
this
board,
to
enhance
their
specific
Hotel.
How
what
are
what
are
the
guardrails
on
this.
T
T
U
Thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
speak
here.
I
think
the
diversity
of
the
of
the
ctaa
board
would
be
the
would
be
the
dynamic
there.
So
guy
Woodbury
is
familiar
in
this.
Industry
has
about
20
hotels,
represented
on
a
limited
service
fashion.
We
have
a
brand
new
Hyatt
downtown,
which
we
would
love
to
fill
up
and
make
our
city
prosperous.
U
We
have
Little
America
and
Grand
America
on
the
outskirts,
so
the
idea
of
this
funding
is
and
the
same
idea
from
the
CVB
is
the
more
people
we
get
into
Salt
Lake,
City
Rises,
all
but
Rises,
the
Tide
and
everybody's
successful.
So
the
the
funds
would
be
I
guess
protected
by
the
unanimous
decision
of
the
board.
I
think
there'll
be
a
lot
of
different
entities
there.
That
would
help
make
sure
that
those
right
decisions
are
made.
We're
not
going
to
go
out
and
buy
something
foolish
that
we.
T
S
Think,
maybe
just
from
a
governance
perspective,
I,
don't
know
if
that's
the
angle
you're
coming
from,
but
there
is
a
clause
in
the
legislation
that
allows
the
County
Council
to
so.
The
county
has
the
responsibility
to
renew
the
contract
after
five
years,
and
so
in
theory,
if
the
County
Council,
you
know,
didn't
approve
of
the
way
the
board
was
spending
funds,
they
could
decline
to
renew
it.
The
other
aspect
in
the
law
allows
lodging
establishments
to
sign
a
petition.
S
If
there's
more
than
60
percent
of
lodging
establishments
that
essentially
protest
how
things
are
going,
the
county
can
consider
that
and
dissolve
the
ctaa,
so
I
think
maybe
to
get
to
sort
of
the
heart
of
like
a
governance
thing.
Maybe
the
County
Council
I
guess
would
be
the
final
final
oversight
body
and.
S
Tangential,
it's
very
unusual
I'll
just
admit
that
this
is
a
tool
that
I
haven't
seen
in
our
state
legislature,
but
it's
essentially
to
adopt
a
resolution
to
Grant
the
ctaa,
the
the
authority
to
charge
this
fee
or
surcharge
on
hotels
within
that
boundary
within
the
specific
ctaa
boundary.
So
not
even
all
hotels
within
Salt,
Lake
City,
it's
just
within
that
boundary
and
it
was
just
a
part
of
the
legislation.
So
it's.
P
Yeah
councilman
Dugan,
so
two
percent
and
it's
the
map
we
have
here-
is
it's
specific,
there's
a
like
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
eastern
border
is
or
the
southern
borders.
The
map
gets
fuzzy
when
you
kind
of
exploded
for
Salt
Lake
City
on,
but
besides
that
so
two
percent
surcharge.
What's
the
Roi
on
the
sales
tax
for
this
the
city,
what
would
what
would
we?
P
J
That
is
an
exceptional
question,
but
a
very
difficult
one
to
answer
most
of
the
or
much
of
the
business
that
we're
pursuing
is
far
far
into
the
future.
We're
talking
to
some
of
these
convention
planners
about
bringing
business
in
2029
and
2020
or
2031.,
and
and
so
it's
it's
a
it's
a
tough
one
to
to
answer.
J
I
I
know
that
sounds
vague
and
Elusive
and
I
certainly
don't
mean
it
to
be
that
way.
But
part
of
of
the
strategy
is
to
ensure
that
we
don't
lose
market
share
as
well
as
so
many
of
these
other
200
large
cities
have
something
in
place
that
that
enables
them
to
pursue
business
a
little
more
effectively
than
we
than
we
do.
N
N
If
this
proves
successful
to
expand,
there
would
be
something
especially
if
we
can
restrict
reinvestment
to
areas
that
are
driving
this
sort
of
thing.
You
know
the
the
Fair
Park
master
plan
calls
for
just
some
tremendous
developments
and
they
were
just
made
an
authority,
so
they
could
act
on
those
quickly
being
able
to
enact
something
like
this.
On
North
Temple
in
particular,
would
be
exciting
yeah
to.
N
History,
one
that
suffers
from
the
need
to
diversify
your
leadership,
or
do
you
have
lots
of
Industries
most
Industries
have
a
leadership
scheme
where
people
from
historically
marginalized
communities
or
women
have
not
been
afforded
the
luxury
of
getting
to
those
positions?
Is
your
industry,
one
that
suffers?
Similarly
from
that.
J
J
J
S
I
think
when
I
raised
the
question,
I
think
the
response
was
that
it
could
be
included
as
part
of
a
renewal,
because
the
boundaries
are
established
in
resolution
and
so
kind
of
like
an
SAA
is
a
specific
boundary.
It
would.
There
would
be
a
formal
process
to
change
that
boundary,
but
it
sounded
like
they're
very
open
to
changing
that
boundary
in
the
future.
E
B
E
So
I,
you
know
I'm
familiar
with
from
my
time
at
the
county,
with
Mrs,
Salt,
Lake
and
many
of
their
board
members.
A
good
friend
of
mine
and
I
know
that
the
work
that
business
like
does
is
incredible,
and
this
is
about
a
creating
a
funding
source
from
tourist
money.
So
not
all
residents
to
actually
bring
more.
You
know
resources
and
conventions,
meaning
you
know,
people
buying
food
in
our
streets-
and
you
know
in
our
in
our
local
restaurants
and
and
spending
their
money
here
so,
which
is
something
that
we
really
want
to
happen.
E
I
wouldn't
I
want
the
Salt
Lake
Salt
Palace
full
all
the
time.
Not
only
that
venue
there's
other
venues
too,
but
like
let's
fill
them
up
and
I
mean
there's
a
county
of
indium.
We
should
you
know
for
sure
prioritize
that
and
I
I
love
that
now,
when
thinking
about
this
I,
remember
something
that
I
struggle
with
and
not
not
on
your
project,
but
in
general,
when
I
was
talking
to
a
house,
a
scary
house,
how
do
you
call
those
the
haunted
house
haunted
house?
E
You
get
it
okay,
they
were
telling
me
that
they
were.
They
do
they're
on
the
same
sort
of
line
of
work,
right,
they're,
trying
to
get
these
large
groups
to
come
visit,
their
haunted
house-
and
it's
there's
a
market
for
that
apparently,
and
they
are
partnering
with
hotels
to
bring
these
large
groups.
Apparently
there
is,
there
is
large
groups
of
people
that
travel
across
the
country
to
visit,
haunted
houses.
E
Do
you
know
that
until
very
recently,
but
they
one
of
the
incentives
when
they're
building
these
packages
is
to
tell
them
you
get
a
discount
at
this
restaurant.
You
can
get
a
build
a
packet
with
this
amenities
and
something
I
noticed
in
this
when
talking
to
them
is
none
of
their
options
were
outside
downtown,
which
you
know
I
struggle
with
the
idea,
because
there
is
amazing
food
in
my
district,
probably
some
of
the
best
food.
E
After
close
after
it
follows
district
one,
and
no,
there
is
fantastic
food,
Beyond,
diverse
food
from
you
know,
diverse
vendors
and
and
I.
You
know
they
didn't
thought
about
it
when
I
told
them
it's
like
there
is
like
literally
walking
distance
from
your
location.
There
is,
you
know,
an
immigrant
restaurant
that
is
like
fantastic
and
it's
so
I
won
well
I'm,
okay
with
this
mechanism
in
general,
because
you
know,
as
tourism,
money
funding
more
tourism
for
Salt
Lake
City
is
I.
Want
you
guys
to
think
about
this?
Other.
E
You
know.
Local
business
businesses
beyond
the
downtown
area
and
I
know
that
you
are
affiliated
with
some
restaurants
yourself
right
and
you
probably
want
to
prioritize
those
but
I
I
do
want
you
to
think
outside
that,
because
there
is
a
lot
to
be
done
and
you
talk
about
lifting
all
the
votes
right
and
it's
not
only
lifting
the
votes
in
downtown.
It's
lifting
all
the
votes
in
my
district
too,
and
in
other
parts
of
the
city.
H
H
U
Again,
it's
a
it's
a
pass-through,
so
the
business
isn't
actually
taxed
on
that
either
it's
packed
on
to
the
client
to
the
to
the
person
who's
staying
in
the
hotel,
so
every
every
guest
who
stays
a
hotel
will
be
assessed
a
two
percent
tax
or
assessment.
So
it's
really
no
there's
nothing
that
the
business
would
be
reliable
for
other
than
to
secure
that
tax
money
and
pass
it
on
to
say.
H
T
Brand
of
Salt,
Lake,
okay,
and
for
that
matter,
Utah
and
in
kind
of
a
weird
sort
of
way
would
be
elevated
and
where,
when
my
Gentleman
to
the
left
of
me
is
at
a
conference
with
300
other
cities,
we
could
have
a
bigger
Booth,
a
bigger
presence.
We
can
compete
on
a
more
National
stage
than
perhaps
we
are
now
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
with
simplistic
terms
right.
M
H
T
T
I
think
we
all
want
that,
but
we
could
at
times,
if
we
choose
so
Mark,
if
I'm
getting
this
wrong,
but
at
times
we
can
choose
to
elevate
the
the
financial
expenses
and
pay
for
more
and
pay
for
more
ambassadors
at
the
airport
or
pay
for
more
safe
and
clean
streets
as
an
example,
or
maybe
it's
music
or
in
Pioneer
Park
for
all
to
enjoy
not
necessarily
a
gated
thing
but
Mark.
What's
your
thoughts
on
that.
J
Right
now,
yeah
Main
Street
things
we
can
do
such
as
create
packages
that
are
built
around
the
the
the
auto
show
at
at
the
fair
park.
It
includes
a
hotel
stay.
It
includes
discount
passes
to
some
of
the
some
of
the
restaurants.
There's
there's
a
lot
we
can
do
to
create
more
business
and
to
enhance
the
experience
that
the
people
have
thus
increasing
their
likelihood
to.
T
Return
I
think
we
want
Roi
too.
So
if
I
made
the
two
gentlemen
right
behind
me
are
in
charge
of
marketing
and
also
the
finances
piece,
and
we
will
demand
a
return
on
the
investment.
So
what
are
the
restaurant
receipts
like?
What
are
the
sales
like
in
the
city?
We
want
to
look
at
that
data
and
learn
from
the
data
and
what
works
effectively.
J
U
U
How
can
we
what's
the
final
carrot
to
get
them
to
land
the
business
to
come
here
to
choosing
if
you're,
if
you're,
if
you're,
choosing
between
San
Antonio
and
Denver
and
Seattle,
they
have
funds
that
we'll
be
able
to
say
hey,
we
can
we
can
spend
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
a
welcome
reception
for
you
and
your
group.
We
would
love
to
do
that.
We
could
put
some
ambassadors
at
the
airport
for
you
to
make.
You
feel
welcome.
We
don't
have
those
tools
in
our
Tool
Shed
right
now,
so
that's
really
what
I
think.
E
E
Do
the
funds
collected?
Do
the
funds
collected
in
one
of
the
CTA
areas
transfer
within
CTA,
so
they
stay
within
right,
so
Salt,
Lake,
City
money
like
the
two
percent.
The
the
rooms
here
in
Salt
Lake
City
within
this
area,
will
stay
to
attract
conventions
or
events
to
Salt
Lake
City,
not
to
not
to
talk
about
Sandy,
but
I.
Don't
want
them
to
go
to
Sunday
I
want
them
to
stay
here.
Kind
of
mixes,
yeah.
J
We
are
going
through
this,
maybe
a
long
answer
to
your
short
question.
What
we
would
love
to
see
eventually
is
to
have
every
every
Hotel
be
part
of
this
county-wide.
It's
turning
out
to
be
a
heavy
lift,
so
we're
focusing
on
Salt
Lake,
which
is
where
most
of
our
our
Hospitality
product
is
most
of
the
hotels
most
of
the
restaurants
and
so
on.
J
That's
where
we
can
make
that's
where
we
can
move
the
needle
in
the
most
significant
way,
we're
going
through
this
process,
also
with
the
South
part
of
the
valley,
Sandy
and
some
of
the
community,
the
municipalities
around
there
and
then
the
same
on
the
in
the
West
Valley,
where
they're
relatively
few
hotels.
But
nonetheless
there
are
opportunities
for
that.
So
the
funds
that
are
collected
overall
there
will
be
some
promotions
that
just
naturally
lift
all
the
boats,
we're
not
going
to
run
ads.
That
say,
come
to
Salt
Lake,
but
don't
go
anywhere
else.
J
U
B
No,
actually,
that's
exactly
the
concern
to
be
honest
and
I.
Don't
want
this
to
come
off
at
all,
like
yeah
whatever,
but
I
run
a
small
business
I
run
a
very
small
Architecture
Firm.
This
sounds
to
me,
like
oh
there's,
this
great
new
tool
and
we're
going
to
tax
every
architecture,
project,
two
percent,
and
then
that's
going
to
go
into
this
fund
that
that
representatives
are
the
five
biggest
architecture.
Firms
are
going
to
choose
how
to
spend
the
money
that
my
clients
that
was
collected
on
my
clients.
B
J
I'll
attempt
to
answer
that
every
time
we
bring
in
a
large
event
whether
it's
a
thirty
thousand
person,
volleyball
event
or
a
ten
thousand
person
convention,
that
tide
does
lift
all
boats
and
it
creates
compression
outward
now.
They
many
of
them
may
be
staying
at
the
hotels
that
these
gentlemen
run,
but
the
other
glass
that
are
let's
say,
displaced
or
that
still
want
to
come
to
Salt
Lake
need
to
go
somewhere,
so
so
those
occupancy
rates
at
those
other
hotels,
those
other
bread
and
breakfasts
do
go
up.
J
So
part
of
this
process
required
us
to
go
and
meet
with
the
hoteliers
to
have
them
sign
petitions
indicating
they're
in
favor
of
this.
So
the
fact
that
every
hotel
that
we've
spoken
to,
except
one
the
Metropolitan
end,
which
is
on
West
Temple
and
approximately
500
South
every
one
of
those
is
in
favor.
J
U
I
would
also
add
that
if
I
would
I've
been
in
this
industry
for
35
years
as
a
hotel
and
hospitality,
industry
and
I
have
never
been
in
front
of
any
kind
of
committee
or
or
legislation
and
asking
to
raise
Hotel
occupancy
attacks.
I
always
felt,
like
you,
had
to
have
the
right
mechanism
in
place
and
have
things
in
the
right
way
to
to
make
sure
that
we're
going
to
charge
two
percent
more
to
all
of
our
customers.
U
We
do
not
want
to
be
in
an
unfavorable
position,
I
guess
anybody
in
our
markets
or
next
door
or
in
the
world.
We
feel
and
I
think
collectively
as
a
hotel
association
as
Mark
just
pointed
out
that
this
is
we
are.
We
are
well
behind
the
curve
on
marketing
and
tourism
funding
for
a
city
in
County
as
big
as
Salt
Lake,
and
we
need
to
do
something.
So
this
is
a
vehicle
that
will
help
us
get
there
and
I
think
there
is
nearly
100
percent
approval
of
of
us
moving
forward
and
I.
U
S
So
if,
if
the
council
is
okay
with
the
tool
going
forward,
the
resolution
would
go
on
your
next
formal
meeting
for
considered
adoption
and
then
it
would
start
a
30-day
clock
where
the
sort
of
protest
rate
would
be
officially
recorded
with
the
county
and
then
collections
would
start
potentially
as
early
as
July.
So.
H
Let's
do
one
more
so
I'm
excited
about
this,
especially
if
you
have
almost
100
of
the
people
that
you
talk
to
in
favor
of
this,
and
so
would
it
be
safe
to
say
that
Salt
Lake
City
looks
at
our
budget
as
well
and
how
much
money
we
fan
of
the
CBD
and
we
spend
on
ambassadors,
and
we
spent
on
our
Public
Safety
and
different
alternative
response
models.
Opportunity.
Would
it
be
safe
to
say
that
we
could
reach
out
to
you
with
that
request?
H
Maybe
we
do
have
a
bigger
event
coming
downtown,
where
we
find
ourselves
somewhat
short
and
we
would
have
to
you
know
we
would
like
to
ask
you:
can
some
of
those
funds
that
you're
collected
will
we
need
so
that
we
can
benefit
as
well?
Your
business
Etc
I
mean
I'm
just
trying
to
to
encourage
you
or
ask
you
that
you
have
that
open
line
of
communications
with
us
as
we
work
together,
because
some
things
overlap
that
we
already
do.
H
J
H
J
Did
we
commensurate
with
with
with
with
our
existing
budget,
but
those
large
events
are
exactly
the
types
of
things
that
we
could
pursue
now
the
NBA
NBA
All-Star
game
doesn't
come
back
every
every
year,
but
the
intent
is
to
pursue
those
types
of
things
and
to
have
the
funds
that
enable
us
to
do
some
of
those
activations
that
need
to
be
done
so
I,
I
I.
The
answer
is
yes:
okay,.
B
K
I
just
want
to
quickly
say
thank
you,
I
think
this
is
a
great
idea.
Honestly,
it's
like
it's
the
visitors
paying
and
we
want
them
to
not
only
pay
but
come
in
and
spend
money
in
our
city
and
to
council
member
who
is
point
earlier.
We
want
all
of
these
hotels
from
the
boutique
hotel
at
Monaco
to
the
you
know,
bed
and
breakfasts
to
the
convention
Hotel
full
every
weekend
with
people
in
our
streets,
and
so
you
know
I
think
that,
to
your
point,
you're,
absolutely
right.
K
D
N
I
know
that
in
programs
like
this
in
other
places,
it's
common
to
have
an
earmark
for
Arts,
specific
programming
and
promotion
and
I
have
to
say,
as
someone
who
came
from
it,
our
Arts
entertainment
sector
here
is
the
most
under
promoted,
but
most
vibrant
part
of
what
we
do
and
I
would
really
love
to
see.
Any
sort
of
earmarking
like
that
as
part
of
the
ultimate
plan.
B
B
S
S
B
H
H
We
have
some
thoughts,
I
think
I,
think
that's
a
good
starting
point.
I
think,
because
of
the
thriving
in
place
plan
that
we're
gonna
get
or
that
we're
working
on
and
all
of
the
housing
investments
that
we're
doing.
We
just
talked
about
the
RDA
and
how
we're
going
to
invest
our
money.
I
think
it
would
give
us
a
really
good.
H
This
audit
will
give
us
a
really
good
idea
where
we're
at
things
that
that
we
shouldn't
be
doing
right
now,
but
so
that
we
can
use
some
of
those
stamp
members
to
do
other
things
that
are
in
the
thriving
place
or
the
affordable
homeownership.
All
the
things
that
we
talk,
housing
so
I
I
feel
excited,
like
the
audits
to
me
are
excited
are
exciting
in
a
way.
H
We
should
be
a
little
bit
faster,
a
little
more
efficient,
a
little
bit
more
in
tune
with
you
know
how
the
world
the
business
World
works
and
how
the
world
moves
that
sometimes
a
little
bit
faster
than
what
we
do
as
a
city
government.
So
having
that
said,
I'm
okay
with
this
I
think
it's
a
good
direction
and
we'll
get
I.
Think
we'll
we'll
we'll
see
a
lot
of
things
that
we
could
improve
on
and
I'm
excited.
So
we
can
get
stuff
done.
So
thanks
great.
M
Doing
one
audit
at
a
time
is
traditionally
what
what
we
have
succeeded
at,
because
it
does
take
an
analyst
there.
It
it's
an
ebb
and
flow
flow
that
involves
our
office
and
we
work
typically
jointly
with
the
mayor's
offices,
is
how
the
council
policy
is
is
written.
So
one
at
a
time
is
pretty
much
all
we
can
do.
S
I
think
it
also
depends
on
the
administrative
bandwidth
and
the
scope
of
the
audit,
as
it
relates
to
the
administration.
So,
for
example,
if
you
know
all
three
audits
involved
tangentially
one
Department,
that
may
be
too
much
for
that
department,
and
so
that's
why
we
typically
work
with
the
administration
to
figure
out.
You
know
their
their
bandwidth
along
with
ours
and.
P
And
also
how
about
now
that
we're
incorporating
the
Erp
program
into
different
departments
and
we're
kind
of
phasing,
those
in
the
audits
with
the
Erp
program,
because
I
know
there's
that
takes
a
lot
of
staff
time
just
transitioning
to
the
Erp
program,
and
it
would
also
change.
Maybe
the
audit
how
an
audit
is
conducted.
Also
I.
S
I
think
that
I
I
don't
know
if
Mary
Beth's,
still
here,
she's,
probably
listening,
I-
think
it's
accurate
to
say
that
once
the
Erp
system
is
fully
operating
and
running,
it
may
be
easier
to
do
Department
audits
in
the
future,
because
data
will
be
much
easier
to
pull
in
mine
and
things
like
that.
It
won't
take
as
much
staff
to
pull
the
information
as
it
currently
does,
but
I
think
we're
a
good
year
away
from,
if
not
more
from
staff.
That's
working
on
the
Erp
right
now
being
freed
up
to
do
their
normal
jobs.
O
Fine
yeah
I
would
say
that
to
create
that
historical
Trend
and
get
the
the
areas
that
you
all
want
to
focus
on
being
projects
and
programs.
It's
going
to
take
us
a
good
year
to
get
the
data
in
order
for
us
to
complete
an
audit,
we
will
have
the
historical
data
in
a
data
warehouse,
but
that's
not
going
to
do
you
a
lot
of
good
within
the
next
year,
though,
we
should
have
some
really
good
data.
P
Okay,
so
I,
and
so
back,
then
the
Erp
program
and
audit.
So
if,
if
those
same
people
have
to
be
doing
both
of
them,
we
just
need
to
be
cognizant
of
the
fact
that,
if
we're
asking
for
an
audit
and
at
the
same
time,
they're
transition
to
an
Erp
program,
it
might
be
who
was
not
to
burden
with
it.
But
both
of
those.
B
It's
because
we
want
to
be
as
efficient
and
we
want
to
have
as
broad
of
a
reach
as
possible
with
as
Mo
as
the
best
possible
use
of
taxpayer
dollars,
but
not
because
I
I'm
I,
just
don't
want
people
listening
to
think
that
there's
like
this
conspiracy,
we're
trying
to
uncover
mm-hmm
yeah.
This
is
just
part
of
our
mandate.
Yeah,
okay
I
saw
a
comment
somewhere
over
here.
No
I
didn't
councilman.
Yes,.
E
I
so
I
guess
you
know,
I
I
understand
the
you
know.
We
cannot
audit
the
whole
city,
I
mean
that's
not
what
I
want
to
do
either
and
to
the
the
point
mentioned
earlier.
I
am
now
looking
I'm
not
pushing
for
this
or
supporting
this,
because
I
think
there
is
something
very
fishy
happening
because
it
isn't,
but
I
do
remember
the
the
briefed
a
briefed
on
the
Building
Services
audit
last
year
and
I'm
still
waiting
for
some
answers
on
that
and
some
up
some
responses
to
things
found
on
that
audit.
E
So
I
wonder
if
there
is
a
way
also
to
when
we're
discussing
about
auditing
departments.
If
there
is
some
sort
of
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
do
this,
but
a
timeline
for
solving
some
of
the
issues
and
then
we'll
have
to
come
back
to
to
this
Council
to
decide
whether
those
issues
will
really
want
to
solve
from
the
other.
But
I.
You
know,
I,
don't
know
if
all
of
those
might
as
well.
Maybe
all
of
those
have
been
addressed
but
I,
maybe
for
a
failure
from
me.
B
M
And
I
can
tell
you
a
little
quick
bit
about
it
and
then
we'll
work
with
the
administration
on
it,
but
it's
a
division
of
can
community
and
neighborhoods
and
they
have
been
so
busy
with
issuing
permits
and
evaluating
buildings
and
all
of
that
that
they
they
were
really
unable
to
respond
in
a
typical
way,
and
so
they
they
did
a
lot
of
work.
But
then
we
had
the
Auditors
come
back
to
do
one
more
piece
which
the
council
wanted,
which
was
to
measure.
M
There
was
a
different
way
way
to
measure
the
amount
of
time
that
things
are
in
the
process
and
to
make
that
much
more
transparent
for
the
public
and
the
administration
and
the
council.
They
told
us
just
straight
up
with.
We
don't
have
the
capacity
to
do
this
right
now
during
the
last
budget,
you
did
add
some
more
staff
to
that
division,
but
it
was
not
enough
to
create
the
capacity
to
respond
to
the
audit
as
well
as
to
continue
to
issue
the
building
permits.
So.
B
That
might
be
something
you
want
to
look
at.
This
might
be
where
councilman
Petro's
suggestion
comes
into
place.
Yes,
every
department
is
probably
operating,
not
every,
but
like
probably
a
lot
of
the
Departments
are
operating
at
capacity.
So
adding
this,
however,
I
think
with
the
Building
Services
one
specifically
as
someone
that
works
in
the
building
industry
and
talks
to
people
that
work
in
the
building
industry
I
think
there
are
certain
things
that
that
audit
was
started
before
I
was
on
the
council
right
like
that.
That
was
this
is
an
old
audit.
B
This
is
not
something
that
we
that
I
came
up
with,
but
I
think
the
goal
of
that
was
to
create
efficiency
in
that
department,
which
would
then
free
up
a
lot
of
that
those
staff
members,
because
there's
a
there's
processes
that
feel
more
complicated
than
they
need
to
be
and
I
think
that
was
kind
of
the
point.
So
yes,
but
it's
a
chicken
and
egg
problem
where
there's,
maybe
not
enough
staff
to
fix
the
problem.
B
But
the
reason
why
there's
not
enough
staff
is
because
the
problem
exists,
so
I
do
think
it's
important
to
for
us
to
not
just
audit
and
say:
oh
well,
here's
all
the
things
that
we
learned,
but
you
don't
have
enough
time
to
change
anything.
So
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
thing.
I
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
figure
out
how
to
implement
some
of
those
changes,
and
maybe
that's
what
councilman
Petro's
saying
about.
B
We
need
to
augment
temporarily
seasonally
augment
the
Staffing
in
a
department
to
help
them
Implement
changes,
I'm,
not
sure,
but
I
do
think.
There
are
places
where
the
goal
is
to
create
efficiency
and
to
solve
structural
process
related
problems
that
are
that
either
are
real
or
maybe
just
perceived
by
the
public
either
way
we
want
to
figure
out
if
it's
a
problem
and
if
it
is,
we
want
to
address
it
and
it
feels
like
that
audit
hasn't
been
as
impactful
in
the
way
that
things
are
happening.
Then
some
may
have
hoped.
M
Right,
yes
and
I
think
one
way
we
can
say
to
characterize
what
a
councilmember
Petro's
suggestion
is
this
we
can
say
to
the
administration.
What
would
be
helpful
to
you
to
allow
you
to
have
the
time
to
gather
the
information
or
free
up
your
people
because
it
may
be
some,
it
may
could
be
any
number
of
things,
and
so
we
could
just
work
with
them
to
say
the
council
is
willing
to
add
resources.
B
B
What
I'm
hearing
from
Council
Members
is
that
we
don't
want
to
let
that
one
audit
that
we've
already
done
result
in
nothing
so
dust
that
off
figure
out
what
we
can
do
to
implement
that,
but
then
also
move
forward
with
it
sounded
like
the
suggestion
was
housing
stability,
as
the
next
place,
where
we
want
to
like
just
take
a
look
at
is
that
is
that
sentiment
shared
by
council
members,
I
I'm,
seeing
all
nods.
So
I
think
that
that
that
is
the
direction.
Is
that
yep.
B
From
there
and
I
think
this
is
important
because
that
I
I
will
say
I.
We
are
not
the
we're
not
like
the
worst
city,
but
we
are
a
city
that
has
a
ton
of
growth,
so
these
two
divisions
are
so
important
and
critical
to
what
to
our
current
state
and
goals
as
the
city.
That
I
think
it's
important
that
we
the
that
those
two
are
well-oiled
machines
and
it's
not
about
reducing
capacity
or
cutting
anything.
It's
about
making
the
impact
even
greater
that
that
those
two
departments
division
is
already
doing
a.
S
Just
want
sorry,
I
realized,
I,
didn't
answer
one
other
question
council
member
Dugan
asked
about
how
long
it
typically
takes
and
I
think
this
is
the
other
piece
where
it's
just
frustrating,
but
it's
just
the
reality
is
that
it's
at
least
six
months
from
the
pers
from
the
development
of
the
scope
to
and
that's
and
that's
abbreviated,
because
we
have
Consultants
already
on
contract.
We
don't
have
to
go
to
an
RFP,
but
that's
just
the
reality.
B
Sense,
yeah,
all
right,
council
members.
Are
we
good
to
move
on
to
item
number?
Seven.
Okay.
Item
number:
seven
is
an
ordinance
about
early
notification
text
Amendment.
This
is
a
follow-up.
This
thing
has
been.
This
has
been
kicking
around
for
years,
so
we
are.
We
have
Nick
tarbet
Council
policy
Analyst
at
the
table.
We
also
have
John
Anderson
and
Nick
North
from
the
planning
division.
V
F
V
F
So
it's
new
okay
I'll,
give
a
quick
introduction
and
then
turn
the
time
over
to
planning
staff
to
we're
going
to
treat
this
as
a
new
briefing
effectively
since
so
much
time
has
gone
by.
So
this
is
a
proposal
that
would
change
title
21A.
The
zoning
ordinance
entitled
to
chapter
2.60,
the
recognized
Community
organization,
ordinance
relating
to
early
notification
of
the
public
and
recognized
Community
organizations
for
land
use
projects.
V
Yeah
thanks
I
did
have
a
couple
of
slides,
but
we'll
make
this
quick
I
know
we're
getting
to
the
end
of
our
meeting
here.
You
can
skip
to
the
next
one,
so
this
is
really
one
thanks
for
having
us
back
again,
but
this
is
an
effort
to
actually
to
streamline
and
improve
our
early
engagement
process.
This
is,
and
by
streamline,
doesn't
mean
shrank
if
anything,
we're
adding
steps
to
what
we're
doing.
V
Currently,
the
internet
engagement
code
requires
a
certain
types
of
planning
and
City
initiative
projects
go
through
the
early
engagement
process,
which
is
generally
a
45-day
period
of
time,
allowing
the
public
and
recognized
Community
organizations,
which
are
mostly
Community
councils,
but
not
exclusively
to
gather
feedback.
It
also
requires
an
open
house
be
held
whenever
we're
near
the
boundary
of
multiple
Community
councils
projects
located
west
of
2200
West
or
there's
a
zoning
text
Amendment,
and
the
current
ordinance
does
not
allow
a
public
hearing
to
be
held
during
that
period
of
time.
V
So
next
slide
please.
So
this
is
the
proposed
changes
into
in
response
to
kind
of
what
we've
learned
and
a
lot
of
this.
We
were
actually
already
doing,
and
we've
learned
a
lot
from
covid
and
finding
more
creative
ways
to
engage
with
the
public.
So
the
first
thing
I
would
require
is
our
engagement,
we're
not
required
for
design
review
and
new
construction
in
historic
district?
Those
petitions
prior
were
not
subject
to
that.
V
So
this
would
also
require
that
the
applicants
post
the
property,
as
required
by
state
code
rather
than
City
staff.
So
that
would
add
I
mean
we
would
manage
that
and
supervise
that
and
make
sure
they
help
with
tools.
But
that
would
help
obviously
with
staff's
time.
This
is
probably
the
biggest
change,
but
it
allows
for
an
Outreach
event
that
does
not
need
to
be
an
in-person
open
house
and
it
could
be
held
online
through
social
media
or
other
events.
V
In
the
past
we
used
to
hold
a
monthly
open
house
up
on
the
fourth
floor
and
all
the
planners
involved
would
get
a
table
and
chairs,
and
you
know,
we'd
be
lucky
to
get
five
people
ten
people
in
a
project
and
if
you
did
do
a
lot
of
people,
you
can
imagine
in
that
hallway
with
30
angry
people.
It's.
It
wasn't
a
very
effective
way
to
really
engage
with
people.
Now
that
we've
been
moved
most
of
our
open
houses
online,
we're
seeing
actually
like
hundreds
of
clicks
on
different
projects.
V
This
would
also
create
a
requirement
for
the
recognized
Communications
to
respond
to
staff
within
14
days
about
a
future
meeting
or
we're
going
to
hold
an
Outreach
event
in
that
place.
It
also
would
allow
for
a
public
hearing
During
the
45-day
period,
but
no
decision
could
be
made.
So
there
are
some
times
when
you
have
complex
projects
would
be
nice
to
get
it
before
the
Planning,
Commission
or
Landmark
commission's
eyes
prior
to
that
45-day
deadline.
So.
W
Our
code
currently
doesn't
require
that
for
the
early
engagement
process,
the
only
required
notice
for
early
engagement
is
to
a
recognized
organization,
and
so
historically
Neighbors
only
found
out
if
the
community
council
actually
went
out
and
flyered
the
neighborhood
or
knocked
on
doors
or
if
the
city
sent
a
notice
to
them
informing
them
of
the
pro
of
The
Proposal,
which
is
something
we've
been
doing
now
for
about
eight
years
outside,
even
as
an
addition
to
that
early
engagement
process.
So
this
codifies
that
so
that
it
becomes
a
requirement
thanks.
P
W
W
W
We're
producing
the
same
information
regardless,
and
so
one
is
the
biggest
difference
is
that
at
the
community
council
or
recognized
organization,
the
presentation
really
is
up
to
the
applicant
to
make
it's
not
up
to
the
planning
staff.
We
don't
make
those
presentations
we're
there
to
help,
answer
questions
about
rules
that
apply
and
process
and
what's
next,
but
it's
really
up
to
the
applicant
to
to
do
that
and.
E
B
V
And
I
think
this
having
that
14
days
will
help
with
staff
time
some
community
councils
and
organizations
are
very
responsive.
There
are
some
that
you'll
hear
from
the
next
day
and
there's
some
you
never
hear
from,
and
so,
if
you're
waiting
through
that
whole
45-day
period
to
hear
back,
do
you
want
me
on
an
agenda?
It's
I
think
it's
frustrating
for
us
and
for
applicants
at
the
very
last
minute
say:
well,
it's
day,
40
and
we
want
to
hold
a
community
council.
V
Maybe
we
want
you
to
attend
so
it
does
happen
at
times
we
appreciate
our
community
councils.
Of
course
there
is
one
last
slide.
It
just
kind
of
goes
through
a
flow
chart.
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
me
to
go
through
all
this
I
know
we're
reaching
the
end
of
this
meeting
and
I
know
that
Nick
tarbert
wants
to
go
through
some
policy
questions,
but.
V
B
W
B
W
W
Right
and
it
that
is
not
as
significant
of
an
issue
with
the
45-day
period,
because
it's
really
easy
to
you
know
kicked
out
another
week
if
we
have
to
because
of
some
error,
because
we
usually
can't
get
it
on
a
Planning,
Commission
or
landmarks
commission
agenda
with
in
that
short
of
a
time
frame
anyway.
So
we
have
some
flexibility,
it's
a
different
story
when
it
is
for
a
public
hearing.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
that
right.
P
W
F
F
The
pages
three
through
five
include
all
the
changes
that
count
previous
Council
requested,
they're
highlighted
in
Red,
so
you
can
see
them
there.
If
you
have
any
questions
about
those
specifically,
so
the
first
one
is,
as
we
mentioned,
what
this
is
really
doing
is
taking
the
land,
use
the
planting
items
out
of
2.60
and
putting
them
into
21A,
and
then
a
few
will
remain
in
2.60.
F
The
difficulty
is
that
it
called
for
the
the
existing
list
required
a
few
things
that
the
city
it
was
difficult
for
the
city
to
be
able
to
provide
early
notification.
For
one
example,
is
it
called
for
any
code
changes?
A
budget
amendment
is
a
code
change,
and
so
we
would
have
to
go
through
the
45-day
process
for
that,
and
so
because
that
was
so
cumbersome
and
that's
not
been
the
policy
of
the
city.
We
are
looking
for
ways
to
change
that.
F
We've
come
up
with
talking
with
council
members
and
staff,
there's
a
list
of
four
items
that
we've
changed:
the
language
to
that.
We
still
don't
have
complete
certainty
on
that.
The
council
is
okay
with
it
or
the
way
that
you'd
like
to
use
it.
So
what
we've
kind
of
presented
are
two
options.
One
is
for
this
list
to
just
stay
in
2.60,
it's
pretty
General
and
then
just
hope
that
all
the
other
departments
and
divisions
will
abide
by
that
they
could
lean
on
planning
for
some
advice
on
how
to
incorporate
this
stuff.
F
See
so
the
main
list?
I
guess
the
amended
languages
that
we
have
is
where
we
say
city
code
amendments
they
change,
ordinances
relating
related
to
obtaining
a
permit
or
licenses
by
the
city.
Major
changes
to
Street
capacity,
your
travel
modes,
including,
but
not
limited,
to
changes
to
the
transportation,
master
plan,
major
upgrades
or
changes
to
a
public
facility
or
structures,
function,
access
and
purpose
and
or
amending
an
adopted
master
plan
and
new
construction
of
a
major
public
facilities
and
structures.
B
Those
are
the
four
things
that
would
remain
in
2.60
and
be
required
for
any
division
Department
that
is
working
on
one
of
those
four
things.
Yes,
and
if
I
remember,
there
was
like
a
problem
of
there,
some
Community
organizations
that
don't
have
boundaries
so
they're,
technically
city-wide.
So
are
they
getting
a
notice
for
everything?
Have
we
cleared
cleaned
that
up.
W
I
don't
know
if
we've
cleaned
that
up
or
not
I,
we
I
think
we
still
have
some.
We
also
have
some
that
have
overlapping
boundaries,
for
example,
there's
two
with
the
exact
same
boundaries
in
the
Avenues
right
now.
So
what
that
is
doing
is
essentially
saying
they
meet
that
requirement
for
having
two
that
are
within
the
close
proximity
of
a
boundary
and
they're.
Getting
that
we
just
do
a
open
house.
Our
practice
is
to
try
to
accommodate
that
as
best
we
can.
But
it's
it
really
is
based
on
staff
availability
to
attend
those.
W
W
Don't
know
if
the
intent
is
for
each
department
to
come
up
with
policies
and
procedures
that
are
adopted,
I
think
the
intent
is
to
say:
hey,
Council,
here's
our
policies
and
procedures
with
how
it
aligns
with
2.60
and
what
we're
required
to
do.
I
think
that
was
where
we
were
going
with
that,
but
so
that
there's
something
in
writing
so
that
they
have
something,
especially
for
those
departments
that
do
public
engagement
already.
You
know
Parks
Transportation,
they're,
already
doing
a
lot
of
this
stuff.
B
B
W
It
it
could
be.
That
was
one
of
those
changes
that
that
we
came
up
with
to
address
the
every
code
Amendment
requiring
it,
and
so
one
of
the
areas
where
we
landed
was
to
try
to
get
those
things
that
impact
or
that
require
somebody.
The
end
result
requires
somebody
to
do
something
like
they
need
to
get
a
permit
from
the
city.
W
B
M
M
W
That's
right
and
that's
that's
a
current
practice
that
we
do
so,
if
we're
doing
a
text
amendment
that,
for
example,
the
one
that
just
pops
my
mind
is
you
know
a
couple
years
ago
we
made
changes
to
like
the
brewery
regulations.
All
of
those
entities
that
known
entities
were
we
reached
out
to
we
try
to
track
down
as
many
as
we
can
and
send
them.
A
big
broad,
you
know,
say:
hey
we're
considering
these
proposals,
we
want
proposals.
W
T
M
The
question
that
Nick
was
asking
about
how
to
get
the
other
departments
aware
and
and
focused
in
this
area.
I
think
all
of
them
have
made
great
strides,
and
one
thing
we
could
do
is
just
perhaps
amend
the
council
reporting
ordinance
or
the
other
ordinance
about
master
plans
so
that
it's
specific
on
what
it
is
they're
reporting
on
that
would
be
a
shorter
process
than
going
in
and
trying
to
ask
them
all
to
make
process,
changes
and
policies.
If
we
just
laid
out.
B
F
Okay,
the
second
policy
question
is
just
we
wanted
to
highlight
mainly
that
there
are
some
exemptions
being
listed
at
this
time.
Previously
there
were
not
those
are
identified
on
page
three,
two,
it's
through
three
one
item
that
we've
added
since
is
based
off
of
I'll.
Just
read
it
to
you
real
quick.
It
says
any
land
use
project
where
an
existing
federal
or
state
law
or
regulation
sets
a
deadline
which
requires
a
decision
or
action
which
would
place
the
requirements
of
this
chapter
in
direct
conflict
with
state
or
federal
law.
F
E
F
Makes
sense
to
me
yeah,
let's
go
for
it,
okay,
those
are
the
two
main
ones.
The
third
one
staff
we
were
talking
about
today
is
the
potential
of
adding
some
additional
comments
into
the,
whereas
Clauses
of
the
adopting
ordinance
that
would
help
I
commit
the
city
to
increasing
our
capacity
for
outreach
to
the
communities
to
some
of
the
languages.
We
would
send
to
you
for
consideration.
F
It
would
be
to
facilitate
and
provide
funding
for
Innovative
approaches
to
obtaining
input
from
all
sectors
of
the
community,
with
an
enhanced
emphasis
on
communities
that
have
historically
been
underrepresented.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
requiring
the
city
to
do
anything
per
se
outside
of
saying
here's,
some
of
our
goals,
here's
some
of
our
priorities.