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From YouTube: Salt Lake City Council Work Session - 03/21/2023
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City
Welcome
to
today's
city
council
meeting
right
now
is
our
work
session,
during
which
there
is
no
public
comment.
But
we
do
have
a
formal
meeting
tonight
at
7
pm,
where
you
can
join
us
to
share
your
comments,
and
we,
of
course
always
welcome
your
feedback
by
mail
to
P.O
box,
145476,
Salt,
Lake,
City,
Utah,
84114
or
any
or
by
email
at
council.com
or
anytime,
by
via
our
24
hour
phone
comment
line
at
801-535-7654.
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So
we'll
start
to
get
the
slides
on
the
Community
engagement
highlights.
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So,
to
begin
with,
I,
don't
they're
not
showing
the
slides,
I,
don't
know.
If
there's
an
issue
there.
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Thanks
so
we
share
our
slc.gov
feedback,
page
updated
with
highlighted
ways
to
engage
with
the
city
and
next
slide,
okay
planning,
so
the
poll
sign
regulations
for
schools,
which
is
a
proposal
from
the
SLC
School
District
to
regulate
electronic
Message
Board
signs
on
school
properties.
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The
ordinance
is
being
reviewed
by
the
city
attorney's
office
and
will
be
transmitted
soon.
Next
is
affordable.
Housing
incentives
update
the
Planning
Commission
has
a
work
session.
Discussion
scheduled
for
this
week,
March
22nd
and
on
March
29th
presentation
to
the
community
council
chairs
at
the
solid
Community
Network
meeting
was
held
on
March
16th.
The
current
draft
of
the
plan
is
available
for
public
comment
on
the
planning
website.
I'm.
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C
So
I'm
on
the
planning
slide,
so
the
third
one
next
is
the
reorganization
of
the
local
historic
chapter.
This
moves.
The
designation
process
to
the
zoning
Amendment
chapter,
clarifies
the
role
of
historic
surveys
and
processes
to
update
surveys.
Modifies
the
approval
process
to
allow
staff
deny
applications
that
do
not
comply
with
standards
and
fine-tunes.
The
ordinance
the
45-day
engagement
period
runs
through
April
27th
and
last
on
planning,
Sugar
House
drive
through
drive
through
a
text
Amendment
the
Planning
Commission
initiated
a
text
change
to
prohibit
drive-throughs
in
the
Sugarhouse
business.
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On
the
other
side,
Village
sustainability
has
been
facilitating
the
environmental
assessments
for
the
tiny
home
Village
at
1850,
West
Indiana
Avenue.
They
created
a
website
describing
the
environmental
conditions
and
remedial
approach
for
the
eight
acre
project
area.
The
purpose
of
the
website
is
to
share
environmental
information
and
ensure
that
the
community
is
aware
of
opportunities
to
participate
in
the
environmental
public
process
facilitated
by
the
state.
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C
In
the
coming
weeks,
Additionally
the
Bloomberg
Center
for
Public
Innovation
will
be
placing
a
graduate
student
from
John
Hopkins
University
with
Salt
Lake
City's
love
your
block
team
for
a
10-week
summer
scholar
program.
This
position
is
being
supported
financially
by
Johns
Hopkins
University
Salt
Lake
City,
and
this
is
just
as
a
reminder
of
the
annual
Spring
River
cleanup
is
returning
April
22nd
at
8
A.M,
and
that
can
you
can
sign
up
to
volunteer
for
that
at
stewardship.slc.gov.
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Next
slide
and
our
remaining
community
outreach
office
hours,
there's
one
left
for
this
month
on
March
28th,
that's
at
Maven
create
which
is
a
co-working
space
in
the
maven
district
and
I
will
be
doing
the
engagement
with
with
economic
development
next
Tuesday,
and
that
is
it
for
Community
engagement.
Any
questions
I'm
not
turn
it
over
to
Andrew.
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Rapid
intervention
and
encampment
encampment
impact
mitigation,
work
6007th,
West
primarily
this
week,
and
then
a
number
of
camps
across
the
city,
as
you
can
see
and
VOA
outrage,
is
still
actively
engaged
in
nine
and
then
a
lot
of
ongoing
rehabilitations
and
Places.
You'll
also
see
that
the
next
resource,
fair,
is
April
14th
at
Pioneer
Park,
however,
in
advance
of
the
ramping
down
of
the
overflows
they'll
also
be
doing
some
mini
ones
at
the
different
locations
to
make
sure
resources
are
offered
there
as
folks
exit
out
of
those
those
options.
G
For
the
summer
time,
kayak
courts
in
May
starting
up
again
and
then
operation
homeless,
connect,
which
is
an
annual
big
resource
fair
for
folks
in
the
community
at
the
convention
center.
Is
this
Friday
I
believe
they
stop
taking
applications
for
volunteers
the
other
day?
But
if
you
really
want
to
volunteer,
we
can
still
get
you
and
I'm
sure
they
could
use
all
the
help
they
can
get.
It's
a
really
good
experience
if
you
haven't
done
them
before.
The
last
thing
for
today
is
I,
wanted
to
highlight
a
program.
G
That's
come
online
in
the
last
little
bit,
which
we
I
think
we
talked
about.
Maybe
briefly
months
ago
in
connection
with
the
former
Ramada
on
North
Temple
soville
1659
is
the
name
of
the
new
development
there.
Private
developer
is
building
renovating
it
into
a
number
of
studio
apartments.
Over
the
next
several
months,
I
got
some
funding
from
the
state
as
well
and
city,
but
as
part
of
that,
in
the
front
section
of
that
hotel,
a
former
Motel
I
mean
they've
put
in
a
new
mental
health
nonprofit
provider.
G
Their
name
is
Mental
Health,
America
Utah
chapter,
it's
a
new
one
here
in
this
state.
They
got
a
grant
this
past
year
to
start
up
this
clinic
and
what
they
have
is
really
it's
a
peer-based
program
and
so
a
lot
of
folks
with
previous
experience
with
mental
illness,
current
mental
illness
issues
who
really
engage
with
one
another
and
do
a
peer-to-peer
sort
of
support
work.
Both
they
have
groups,
there
classes
a
drop-in
element
to
it,
yeah
some
individual
work.
They
can
do
a
lot
of
resource,
Rich
kind
of
environment.
G
It
is
in
that
former
Ramada,
it's
open,
nine
to
five
Monday
through
Friday
I
believe
right
now
it's
meant
to
be
a
resource
for
that
development
as
it
comes
online
this
year,
but
also
for
the
general
public.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
aware
of
that-
and
we
hope
to
have
more
of
these
kind
of
Concepts
going
forward,
because
we
need
a
lot
more
supports
as
you're
aware
in
our
community
and
that's
it
Mr
chair.
A
Thank
you,
Andrew
councilman,
you
have
any
questions
for
Andrew
I,
appreciate
that
that's
exciting
about
the
new
Mental
Health
Resources
coming
to
our
community,
as
that
continues
to
develop
love
to
know
how
we
can
engage
in
that
process
or
be
supportive
or
at
least
get
the
word
out.
Certainly
thank
you
thanks.
A
All
right,
I
think
that
does
it
for
our
administrative
updates.
So
we
are
on
to
item
number
two
item
number
two
is
a
land
use,
ordinance
about
homeless,
Resource,
Center
zoning
text
amendments
and
we
have
Nick
tarpet,
Nick,
Norris,
Michaela,
okay
and
Lindsay
Kelsey
Lindquist
here
at
the
table
with
us.
Thank
you.
H
The
council
is
going
to
be
briefed
on
a
proposal
that
would
establish
a
process
for
approving
future
homeless
Resource
Centers
hrcs,
as
we
probably
will
refer
to
them,
frequently
create
a
homeless,
Resource
Center
zoning
District
adopt
Provisions
for
temporary
and
seasonal
homeless.
Resource
Centers
modify
existing
standards
for
homeless
centers.
So
the
background
on
this
is
in
April.
Excuse
me,
October
of
2021
the
mayor
initiated
a
moratorium
through
the
pending
ordinance
that
created
that
that
put
a
Prohibition
on
hrcs
and
shelters
being
created
in
the
city.
H
If
the
council
does
not
adopt
an
updated
ordinance
by
May
3rd
of
2023,
so
here
in
a
few
weeks,
ordinance
15b
of
2022
will
go
back
into
effect,
thus
allowing
the
hrcs
and
shelters
in
the
areas
where
they
are
previously
allowed.
So
the
council
has
already
set
a
public
hearing
date
for
this
item.
It's
on
April
4th
and
with
that
I
will
turn
the
time
over
to
Michaela
I.
Believe
is
leading
it.
I
Let's
wait
for
the
slide
deck
next
slide.
Please
I
thought
it
best
to
take
a
look
at
what
our
goal
was
before
we
get
through
our
proposed
process.
Our
goal
was:
our
goal
is
to
review
our
charge
from
you
all.
That's
laid
out
here
on
this
slide
to
identify
the
most
appropriate
process
for
allowing
homeless,
Resource
Centers,
and
that
was
to
consider
the
safety
and
the
welfare
of
the
home.
I
We've
we've
really
leaned
on
various
groups
to
ensure
that
we
identify
any
deficiencies
in
the
code,
but
also
get
feedback
so
that
we
capture
everything
that
we
need
to
capture
in
a
new
process.
So
this
slide
really
just
talks
about
all
those
groups
that
we've
engaged
with
internal
City
groups-
service
providers,
Community
councils,
Advocates
Etc
next
slide.
I
I
Next
slide,
thanks
perfect,
just
to
highlight
a
few
additions
to
this.
I
Next
slide,
please
something
that
came
up
with
in
our
discussions
with
the
police
department
and
the
standards
that
we
had
on
the
books
relating
to
crime
prevention
through
environmental
design
was
a
pretty
strong
recommendation
for
us
to
not
necessarily
list
out
what
those
regulations
should
be
but
require
a
septed
expert
to
actually
certify
plans.
I
Police
Department
asked
that,
and
the
police
department
would
of
course
review
that
even
with
that
sign
off
from
a
septed
individual
it
also.
The
code
also
would
allow
the
zoning
administrator
to
be
able
to
modify
certain
things
in
a
plan
relating
to
that
next
slide.
I
If
the
modifications
aren't
allowed
by
code.
These
are
the
ones
that
are
listed
right,
like
fence
height,
Landscaping,
Clear,
View,
triangles
building
design
standards
that
might
be
necessary
for
the
Privacy.
It
would,
of
course,
be
site-specific,
but
these
are
just
some
examples
of
such
modifications
that
are
listed
next
slide.
Please
what
we've
heard
through
months
of
feedback
is
Def.
I
Definitely
a
predictable
timeline
is
important
to
the
community
and
to
potential
operators
that
this
was
something
that
was
pretty
Paramount
coming
up
with
this
new
process
and
to
shorten
that
approval
process
and
I'll
get
into
what
the
Planning
Commission
asked
the
council,
but
that's
to
consider
codifying
a
timeline
and
I'll
get
into
that
later.
I
Well
sorry
that
in
the
standards
is,
we
have
listed
that
we
would
choose.
We
would
put
the
item
on
a
Planning
Commission
agenda,
45
days
as
soon
as
possible
to
respond
to
that
timeliness.
Concern
next
slide,
really.
Circling
back
to
our
initial
charging
goals,
we've
updated
factors
to
consider
on
whether
to
map
the
overlay.
The
goal
of
the
factors
is
to
understand
anticipated
benefits
to
the
homeless
population
right.
So,
if
a
homeless
Resource
Center
is
proposed,
what
would
the
services
be
at
that
particular
site?
I
I
I
I
The
temporary
HRC
they're
allowed
when
hrcs
are
full
and
the
state
code
says
if
temperatures
are
anticipated
to
drop
below
freezing
based
on
public
feedback
we
added
in
and
when
the
heat
index
is
above
95
degrees,
so
they're
allowed
with
one
and
two
or
if
the
city
is
required
by
the
state
to
provide
an
emergency
shelter.
Next
slide.
I
I
The
goal
is
to
be
a
thousand
feet
from
Community
locations,
but
that
can
be
waived
by
the
city
because
that
may
be
hard
to
accomplish
in
Salt
Lake
City
those
Community
locations.
Being
your
Parks,
your
libraries,
your
schools,
next
slide,
please
temporary
HRC
still
do
have
requirements
right
their
security
and
operations
plan.
They
need
to
have
adequate,
restrooms
and
comply
with
all
life,
safety
building
and
fire
codes
and
next
slide.
A
Council
members
should
we
start
with
the
permanent
HRC
text
amendments
and
then
move
to
questions
about
the
temporary
ones
and
the
weight
order
that
it
was
presented?
Does
that
sound
okay?
J
You
again
yeah
thank
you
Mr
chair,
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
I
want
to
also
thank
the
staff,
because
I
had
a
one-on-one
discussion
with
the
staff
late
last
week
to
give
me
a
little
more
insight
to
the
the
text.
Amendment
first
question
just
on
how
does
this
blend
in
with
House
Bill
499
and
our
requirements
of
different
counties
having
hrcs
and
different
cities
and
the
winner
overflow
how's?
J
This
blend
in
with
our
the
requirements
here
on
House,
Bill,
499
and
I
know
this
came
about
beforehand,
but
there's
got
to
be
something
to
bring
them
together.
We.
I
J
H
Also
on
the
temperature,
so
the
state
only
has
a
bottom
it
so
the
code
blue
and
it's
at
a
different
temperature
than
what
the
city,
what
this
ordinance
proposes.
So
that
and
I
think
it's
a
fifth
windshield
15
degrees
or
something
that's
right.
So
that
may
be
something
the
council
would
be
interested
in
linking
those
two
together.
That
may
be
something
that
just
might
be
able
to
make
it
more
consistent,
because
the
state
Department
of
homeless
service,
not
home,
I,
don't
know
if
it's
homeless
services
or
whoever
would
be
the
one
that
dictates
when.
J
Now
the
temperatures
of
temperature
Temporaries,
but
the
the
actual
4.99
you
know
the
pushes
to
drive
HRC
not
drive
to
highly
encourage
hrcs
in
other
counties
and
other
municipalities
by
Salt
Lake
City.
G
Yeah
so
in
HP
440,
which
is
last
year
year
ago,
now
they
put
a
lot
of
the
things
you're,
seeing
here
into
that
statute
about
once
every
four
years
and
things
like
that,
and
so
the
planning
planning
drafted
this
based
on
those
because
they
had
to
get
it
in
front
of
the
Planning
Commission.
But
in
the
interim
the
state
changed
it
in
499..
G
I
But
we
haven't,
we
had.
We
have
been
monitoring
that
bill
and
we
feel
comfortable
with
what
we're
proposing.
A
I
The
code
blue
is
something
a
little
bit
different
that
actually,
if
we
don't
do,
go
into
code
blue
or
were
15
degrees
or
less,
my
understanding
is
that
the
city
can't
impose
any
sort
of
conditional
use,
process
process
or
any
other
process.
If
an
existing
HRC
wants
to
provide
up
to
35
percent
more
within
their
facility.
A
Considering
so,
but
my
question
is
the
we're
saying:
temporary
HRC
standards,
but
there
are
drop
temperatures
drop
below
32
degrees
Fahrenheit,
so
that
seems
like
An
Occurrence.
That
can
happen
by
day
multiple
times
in
a
year,
not
something
that's
like
the
whole
whole
winter,
long
or
the
whole
summer.
Long
right
so
I
think
that
the
Restriction
that
you
can
only
occupy
the
same
site
once
every
four
years.
If
we're
saying
well,
you
know
here's
this
building
that
works
great
for
this.
We
House
people,
but
then
it
warms
up
for
a
few
weeks.
A
L
I
You
so
you
have
the
code
blue,
which
is
the
15
when
temperatures
are
there's
an
alert
from
Department
of
Health
and
services,
that
temperatures
are
going
to
be
15
degrees
or
lower.
The
state
code
basically
says
that
an
existing
shelter
can
increase
their
occupancy
up
to
35
percent
right
during
that
whole
code
alert.
There's
one
one
way
to
deal
with
it,
and
then
we
have
this
proposal
in
front
of
you.
That's
also
reflecting
state
code,
which
state
code
basically
says
the
state.
I
I
And
there
are
regulations,
but
we've
added
to
that
that
not
only
are
we
looking
at
freezing
temperatures
that
you
could
enact
temporary
land
use
regulations
to
actually
choose
choose
to
cite
a
temporary
HRC
as
well.
So
the
state
can
ask
you
every
for
ask
us
every
four
years
to
be
selected
for
a
temporary
HRC
or
we
as
a
city
can
also
decide
to
cite
a
temporary
HRC.
M
So
the
the
one
thing
I
wanted
to
add
about
the
temperature
is
that
the
proposal
talks
about
those
two
thresholds
being
reasonably
expected.
So
just
because
we
may
have
a
warm
spell
in
January,
where
it's
40
degrees
doesn't
mean
that
someone
would
be
required
to
shut
down
and
likewise
in
the
summer.
So
it's
if
those
months
of
the
year,
we
can
all
reasonably
expect
cold
temperatures,
then
that
those
qualifiers
would
be
met.
I
I
J
A
Okay,
so
the
other
question
I
have
about
the
temporary
ordinance.
Is
the
one
mile
radius
and
I
appreciate
that
we're
looking
at
things
like
that
because
of
the
concentration
of
services
in
specific
neighborhoods.
A
A
O
O
O
M
Yeah,
so
so
the
first
step
would
be,
if
someone's
proposing
it
does
it
meet
the
standards
for
an
administrative
approval.
If
it
does,
we
would
have
the
ability
at
on
the
administration
side
to
approve
that.
Okay.
If
it
doesn't,
then
that
would
be
a
situation
where
somebody
could
ask
the
council
to
consider
a
temporary
land
use
regulation.
Okay,.
M
Right
so
maybe
maybe
there's
a
location
that
is
within
a
mile
of
an
existing
HRC
that
is
available
and
works
out
great.
That
might
be
a
situation
where,
maybe,
as
a
city
we'd,
consider
that
and
we'd
ask
the
the
council
to
consider
temporary
land
use
regulation
for
something
like
that.
Okay,
if
that
makes
sense.
O
O
A
O
P
A
Do
you
have
a
question
on
the
permanent
ones,
the
septed
review?
Can
we
talk
through
a
little
bit,
how
that
would
work
and
how
much
teeth
that
would
have
like,
for
instance,
the
one
in
my
district,
the
Gale,
Miller
Resource
Center
was
built
and
really
just
like
for
a
few
years,
really
just
needed
additional
lighting
and
finally
got
the
lighting
and
that's
helped
not
solved
all
the
problems.
Obviously,
but
that's
helped
a
lot
I'm
wondering
how
so
the
PD
comes.
A
In
does
accepted
review
says
it
would
be
great
to
have
more
lighting,
not
just
on
the
site
but
like
on
the
whole
street.
Is
there
any
way
that
those
sort
of
things
can
be
a
little
bit
more
a
little
stronger
or
how
does
it
work
under
this
proposal?.
A
M
No,
but
well
so
so
that
is
one
of
it's
actually
a
really
good
question
in
regards
to
why
we
landed
where
we
did
with
the
process,
because
if
this
were
just
a
normal
land
use
process,
we
can't
necessarily
require
off-site
improvements
as
part
of
that,
but
because
this
is
something
that
is
essentially
coming
to
the
council
and
the
council
has
much
more
discretion
on
these
types
of
decisions.
That
could
be
a
discussion
that
could
be
had
and
funding
sources
could
be
identified,
whether
it's
from
the
applicant,
which
I
would
guess,
would
be
highly
unlikely.
M
A
M
M
Yeah-
and
this
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
were
having
some
issues
with
how
the
current
well,
the
current
regulations
regarding
septo
is
written,
is
based
on
the
recommendation
from
the
police
department
and
the
officers
who
are
trained
and
doing
sept
head
reviews.
M
They
had
some
real
problems
with
how
our
current
one
was
written
because
they
didn't
think
that
it
actually
got
to
the
needs,
and
so
the
the
challenge,
though,
is
that
oftentimes,
you
can't
apply
septed
principles
until
you
have
a
site
plan
and
a
building
design,
and
so,
if
somebody's
coming
to
the
council
for
an
approval,
then
they
may
not
have
that,
because
they're
probably
not
going
to
invest
those
resources
until
they
have
a
a
yes
right.
So
that's
that
the
way
it's
written
is
that
it
would
apply
after
the
council
made
a
decision.
M
You
know
the
most
recent
one
was
at
the
YWCA,
where
they
requested
the
taller
friends
to
help
not
necessarily
to
address
a
detrimental
impact
to
the
outside,
but
to
help
keep
their
clientele
safer.
So
those
would
be
situations
where
we
could
apply
a
septet
principle
and
get
something
like
that
approved
at
the
staff
level.
Instead
of
having
to
go
through
a
process.
A
A
I
really
don't
want
us
to
be
the
body
that
has
to
make
this
decision,
but
there's
so
many
considerations
with
citing
a
resource
center
that
it
seems
like
we
have
to
be
so
I
think
the
direction
of
this
proposal,
though
it
puts
a
lot
of
weight
on
us
and
I
hope
that
all
of
my
colleagues
are
understand
all
of
the
sort
of
issues
and
that
in
the
end,
these
are
human
beings
that
need
shelter.
A
So
in
some
ways
I
wish
you
it
wasn't
on
our
backs,
but
it
really
is
and
I
I
I
don't
see
a
better
a
better
solution
than
what's
been
presented.
But
council
members.
L
A
L
L
I
L
L
N
Mean
we're
confident
on
RN
to
get
this
to
council
right
after
that
45-day
deadline,
because
we're
codifying
our
requirement
where
this
goes
to
a
Planning
Commission
for
a
decision.
The
next
Planning
Commission
meeting
after
that
45-day
public
engagement
period,
I
think
we
can
get
it
to
counsel
it's
just
whether
or
not
you
feel
comfortable
with
the
90
days.
On
your
end,.
L
And
it's
weird
requests
but
I
also
from
the
community
I,
also
like
being
realistic
and
I,
always
err
on
the
under
promise
and
over
deliver
side,
and
if
we
need
to
disappoint
the
public,
I
seem
to
be
doing
that
lately,
so
I'm
happy
to
do
it
once
more.
If
we
need
to
adjust
that
number
for
sanity's
sake,
I.
A
L
L
I
I
agree
with
the
prioritizing
like
as
soon
as
it's
done
as
soon
as
it's
done.
You
know
getting
it
to
planning,
but.
L
Q
L
Right
we
do
this,
but
I
also
feel
like
it's
a
thoroughness
thing
too
right
like
Darren
was
saying
these
are
humans
who
were
putting
into
these
places.
We
need
you
all
to
take
as
much
time
as
you
need
to
do
what
you
do
to
keep
residents
safe
and
so
90
days
after
it
gets
to
us,
feels
a
little
safer
to
me.
It
still
feels,
like
sorry,
Council
staff
you're
allowed
to
hate
me
in
perpetuity.
A
M
M
You
know
one
one
option
that
you
could
also
consider
and
I,
not
necess,
not
this
isn't
necessarily
related
to
approving
homeless,
shelters
or
homeless
Resource
Centers,
but
there
are
situations
in
other
cities
where
the
council
is
obligated
by
law
to
have
a
public
hearing
within
a
certain
amount
of
dates.
That
doesn't
mean
you're
required
to
make
a
decision
that
feels
really
comfortable,
but
you
can't,
but
you
are,
but
some
cities
do
require
their
Council
to
hold
a
public
hearing
within
certain
number
of
days
of
receiving
a
proposal
like
a
zoning
change.
M
A
A
Q
D
I
think
on
the
Fly
here,
if
we
get
it
like
typically,
if
we
get
a
transmittal
it's
about
two
weeks
before
we've
realized,
you
know
if
it
requires
four
weeks
of
noticing
two
weeks
of
noticing
things
like
that,
so
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
I
feel
like
90
days
to
schedule.
A
public
hearing
feels
comfortable
and
then
I
would
defer
to
you
guys
about
once
you've
held
the
public
hearing.
R
Q
Public
hearing
would
have
to
be
held
within
90
days
of
receiving
the
transmittal
from
the
planet
or
whatever
from
the
Planning
Commission,
and
then
the
council
would
take
action
at
the
next.
You
I
mean
if
we
really
wanted
to
legalize
it,
you'd
be
like
the
most
the
next
most
reasonable
time
thereafter
or
something,
and
then
then
we
don't
have
to
actually
say
the
next
formal
meeting,
but
a
reasonable
time
thereafter.
Q
A
Not
I'm
not
entirely
opposed
to
this
I
guess.
I
do
feel
like,
as
as
the
council
member
representing
the
district
with
the
homeless,
Resource
Center
I
would
hate
for
that
decision
to
be
to
not
be
given
the
amount
of
time,
because
we're
talking
about
permanent
homeless
resources,
we're
not
talking
about
temporary
ones,
temporary
ones,
absolutely,
but
right.
Q
I
think
that's
why
maybe
suggested
reasonable,
instead
of
an
actual
time
frame,
because,
let's
say
something
comes
up
within
the
public
hearing
that
we
say
holy
cow.
This
was
a
whole
thing
that
we
didn't
even
think
about.
You
could
say
something
like
it
would
be
reasonable
to
take
time
to
look
into
something
and
create
like
that
space.
So
you're
just
saying
at
some
point,
you
need
to
decide.
A
J
Summarize,
okay,
I
have
some
I,
have
some
questions
about
councilman
on
the
size
of
the
resource
center
right
now
the
the
Texas
Amendment
now
says
maximum
size
of
200
beds
right
and
that
just
probably
came
out
from
what
our
current
hrcs
are
of
200
beds
and
that
land,
wise
Just,
For,
The
public's
information
could
be
an
acre
and
a
half
or
two
acres.
Three
acres
size,
wise
of
contiguous
space.
Now,
there's
the
other
recommendation
from
the
Planning
Commission
about
40
up
to
40
beds
for
conditional
use.
J
So
we
could
actually
have
a
quicker
process
for
HRC
up
to
40
beds
and
which
would
be
a
much
smaller
location
and
where
did
where
did
40
beds
come
from
and
and
how
does?
How
does
that
fit
into
different
areas
and
and
actually
into
the
hrcs
and
the
service
providers,
ability
to
40
beds.
M
So
the
40
beds,
I
mean
I'm
just
going
to
be
completely
blunt.
The
Planning
Commission
kind
of
threw
a
number
out,
but
that
40
beds
is
somewhat
tied
to
the
method
that
the
city
of
Denver
adopted
in
2021,
which
basically
created
four
different
tiers
of
sizes
for
homeless,
shelters
and
where
they
could
go
with
the
smallest.
Basically,
they
had
10
and
under
20
10
to
20
20
to
40..
M
M
T
M
To
100
and
then
above
100.
and
the
the
Planning
Commission
didn't
really
discuss
a
number.
It
was
literally
kind
of
done
during
their
motion,
so
it
I.
Would
we
mentioned
that
we
were
very
hesitant
to
put
a
number
on
it
primarily
because
when
the
city
of
Denver
published
a
report
after
their
ordinance
had
been
in
effect
for
one
year,
and
it
indicated
that
they
don't
have
enough
data
to
know
if
it's
actually
working
or
if
the
numbers
were
right.
M
M
J
J
Yes,
so
that
is
a
big
difference
also
they
could
have
a
conditional
use
to
put
a
40
bed
HRC.
They
still
have
to
go
through
the
all
the
requirements
that
we've
listed
in
the
of
security
and
a
plan
and
the
Mental
Clinic
in
the
front,
also
for
a
40
unit,
is
that
true,
medical,
the
medical,
sorry,
mental
medical.
Sorry
you
gave
me
that
look
and
I'm
like
what
did
I
say.
J
The
medical
clinic
thank
you
for
the
questioning,
look
because
of
what
I
said
so
yeah
the
medical
that
would
still
be
required
in
the
40
bed
unit.
But
this
is
conditional
use.
So
they
could
actually
put
that
in
there
with
a
lot
quicker,
but
just
as
great
or
even
a
greater
impact
to
a
community
without
really
having
to
come
back
to.
M
Us
I
think
the
fair
statement
is
we
don't
know
what
that
impact
would
be,
because
we
just
don't
have
any
evidence
to
base
it
on
and
and
no
one's.
We
can't
find
anyone.
That's
done
that
that
has
published
the
information
to
know
what
those
impacts
might
be
so
so
we
would.
We
would
be
solely
relying
on
our
ability
to
enforce
against
the
conditional
use
that
violated
one
of
the
standards
of
the
conditional
use
right.
O
J
That
route
go
and
go
that
route.
If
it's
it's
too
many
unknowns
on
that
area
and
I,
also
just
the
200
beds
and
the
three
acres
or
so
I
I
still
have
some
concerns
here,
but
those
are
the
big
ones
at
this
point
right
now,.
O
Thank
you
and
my
questions,
I
think
what
we're
trying
to
review
here
is
existing
conditional
use
that
the
hrcs
are
in
our
in
the
existing
locations
right
now.
So
it
was
my
hope
that
we
would
look
up
the
conditional
use,
as
is,
and
then
look
at
the
impacts
like
what
what
has
happened
in
those
has
any
of
those
conditional
those
conditions
in
that
use
been
violated
and
if,
if
they
have
been
violated,
then
how
do
we
do?
We
need
to
change
them?
Do
we
need
to
enforce
better
on
it?
O
What
do
we
do
to
help
the
next
batch
of
hrcs
so
that
they're,
not
as
impactful
in
the
community
as
they
currently
ones
are
so
what
I
see
with
the
new
standards
were
just
changing?
Maybe
four
or
five
things
to
the
to
the
conditional,
the
the
conditions
that
we
have
right
now,
but
not
necessarily
to
me
this.
It's
just
an
addition
to
what
we
have,
but
not
necessarily
A
change,
or
an
improvement
on
or
or
a
solution
to
the
things
that
we
are
struggling
with
right
now.
O
These
are
great
like
the
new
standards
for
the
new
ones.
Great,
the
new
badge
right,
like
you,
know,
prohibit
a
Firearms.
Obviously
I
can't
believe
we
didn't
have
it
before.
Can
we
add
more
other
weapons
to
you
know
to
this
requirement?
We
don't
want
weapons
inside
hrcs
period
like
accepted
great
idea
I.
O
Obviously
we
think
you
will
already
do
this,
but
we
don't,
but
that's
okay,
like
we're
fixing
that
fence
height
another
great
idea,
because
we
see
that
we
have
WYCA
like
needing
that
for
their
purpose
and
of
course
we
want
to
increase
that
the
fence
height,
but
in
terms
of
the
impacts
like
the
real
impact
of
what's
been
happening,
that's
what
I'm,
stealing
clear
of
and
I,
think
I
have
requested
of
the
administration
and
I
and
I
asked
publicly
the
budgetary
impacts
for
us
on,
let's
say,
police
and
and
fire
department
calls
like
what
does
this?
O
You
know
what
does
it
cost
the
taxpayers
to
host
an
HRC
in
their
neighborhood?
That's
like
number
one
question
for
us
I
think
to
to
know,
because,
if
we're
gonna,
if
we're
going
to,
if
we're
going
to
allow
another
one
in
anywhere
in
the
city,
we
ought
to
know
how
much
it
costs
a
taxpayers
so
that
we
can
budget
for
it.
U
O
Question
you
know
number
one
like
how
much
does
it
cost
in
terms
of
emergency
and
and
safety
within
the
HRC
and
without
an
outside
hrcs?
What
other
things
have
impacted?
The
neighbor
The
Neighbors
because
of
those
conditions,
I
and
other
things
that
happened
outside
the
neighborhoods
and
I
know
we
we
talk
about
this.
Some
things
we
cannot
solve
with
zoning
and
I
know.
I
always
remember
Nick,
saying
there
are
some
things
that
we
cannot
solve
with
zoning.
O
It's
not
a
land
use
issue,
but
I
think
this
body
needs
to
figure
that
out
as
well.
What
what
are
those
things
that
we
need
to
do
to
prepare
for
if
we're
going
to
allow
New
hrcs
in
any
neighborhood
of
the
city,
so
that
we
that
we
don't
run
into
issues
you
know
in
the
neighborhoods.
Obviously
we
want
to
House
people.
We
want
to
have
this
resources,
Resource
Centers,
but
I
feel
like.
Maybe
hrc's
are
good
to
have.
Maybe
we
should
allow
a
few
more,
but
I
think
we
should.
O
We
need
to
focus
more
on
permanent,
Supportive,
Housing
and
and
the
type
of
housing
like
first
step
house,
where
they
actually
help
with
behavioral
issues
with
mental
health
issues
and
other
issues
that
are
problematic
in
the
city
sometimes,
and
they
do
a
really
and
they
do
a
really
good
job.
So
I
am
not
full
on
yet.
With
this
proposal,
I
think
it's
a
good
start,
but
I
think
we
need
to
analyze
more
how
we're
going
to
prepare
for
New
hrcs
in
any
neighborhood
like.
Are
we
ready
with
this?
O
V
N
Kelsey
can
I
can
I
just
address
a
couple
of
your
comments
and
questions.
I
would
say
that
the
HRC
overlay
is
a
pretty
significant
departure
from
our
prior
conditional
use
process.
Conditional
uses
are
essentially
mandated
by
state
code
right
foreign
approval
and
we're
fairly
limited
on
what
we
can
require,
because
we
have
to
just
bare
minimum
mitigate
said
impact.
N
Under
this
new
proposal.
You'll
see
online
366..
There
are
additional
factors
to
consider
these
are
for
the
city,
and
so
that
takes
budget
considerations
and
impacts,
impacts,
the
city
departments
and
services
that
includes
fire
police
as
well
as
civil
enforcement,
and
so
all
of
these
concerns
that
we've
heard
over
the
past
number
of
years,
as
well
as
the
concerns
we
heard
from
engaging
in
our
city,
departments
and
divisions,
are
taken
into
consideration
with
this
ordinance.
O
W
Is
actually
a
perfect
for
for
what
I
have
a
thought
here,
since
we
are
taking
that
in
consideration?
I
would
like
to
add
another
step
to
this
process
after
the
building
permit
is
issued
that
there
is
a
reporting
mechanism.
W
You
know
talking
about
those
impacts,
impacts
to
city
services,
so
every
so
often
they
need
to
come,
and
you
know
we
need
to
come
up
and
report
to
the
city.
Council
are
there
impacts
to
city
services
and
what
were
those
and
how
much
that
cost
are
there
impacts
to
the
neighbors
and
right
now,
through
the
process,
we
are
informing
The
Neighbors
about
this
right.
W
Can
we
do
that?
Maybe
every
every
two
years,
or
something
like
that
and
say
hey?
What
are
your
impacts
that
you're
seeing
in
your
neighborhood?
So
then
we
got.
We
have
that
information,
we're
gathering
information
back
and
also
part
of
the
decision
making
here
talks
about
the
effectiveness
of
their
security
plans.
I
would
like
to
get
reports
back
of
that.
Are
they
effective
right
because
we're
doing
it
ahead
of
it
we're
doing
it
ahead?
W
What
we
need
is
we
need
to
know
if
it's
working
after
the
fact
so
I
would
like
to
get
add
another
step
to
that
process
after
the
building
permit
is,
is
put
together
to
come
back
and
report
back
to
us.
What
are
the
issues
that
are
happening?
Can
we
measure
it
and
then
we
can
actually
make
decisions
and
all
that
information
can
help
us
to
talk
to
the
legislature
and
said
it's
not
enough
right
where
you're
giving
us
for
mitigation
money
or
is
not.
You
know
see.
W
These
are
the
issues
that
we
need
to
work
on.
So
you
know,
let's,
let's
build
something
into
this
process
that
gives
us
data
back
and
Reporting
mechanism
that
we
can
use
to
improve
the
system
and
just
a
second
thought
when
we
were
talking
about
crime
prevention
through
environmental
design,
and
and
thank
you
for
making
these
changes
and
and
allowing
this
future
hrc's
areas
to
to
access
this
tool
on
a
DVA,
sometimes
from
the
ordinance
I
wonder
if
this
is
really
unrelated
to
this,
but
somewhat
related
could
could
it
be?
W
Could
that
be
allowed
in
in
other
areas
of
the
city
where
there
is
other
service
providers
that
they
also
work
with
those
chronically
homeless
or
those
suffering
through
substance
abuse?
So
they
can
also,
you
know,
build
higher
fences
or
you
know,
put
some
more
lights
or
you
know
things
that.
Might
you
know
the
the
current
ordinance
might
not
allow,
so
I
would
like
to
see
that
ordinance,
maybe
or
those
rules
be
allowed
in
other
areas.
Now
how
do
we
narrow
that
down?
W
It's
a
good
question,
but
I
would
like
to
explore
that
path.
Too.
I
mean
in
the
west
side.
We
have
quite
a
bit
of
service
providers,
and
sometimes
there
is
very
negative
impacts
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
those
neighbors
have
the
tools
within
the
code
or
a
process
to
deviate
from
the
code
to
keep
their
Sam
themselves
and
their
businesses
safe.
W
N
A
A
M
Types
of
fences-
and
things
like
that,
so
there
might
be
some
need
to
do
that.
Okay,
which
could
include
some
of
these
other
other
uses
that
that
do
probably
need
a
you
know.
A
higher
level
of
kind
of
self-protection,
I
think
I
was
probably
how
I'd
put
it
and
other
uses.
W
I
think
that
would
make
a
big
deal
for
me
and
I
know
there
might
be
it's
related,
but
in
different
contexts,
but
I
think
that
will
be
a
big
deal
for
you
know
and
I.
Could
the
drug
could
be
line
on
organizations
that
are
working
with
mental
health
and
chronically
homeless?
W
You
know,
and
then
you
know
they
could
you
know
you
put
that
dot
in
there
and
around
a
circumference.
You
can
say:
okay,
you
could
you
could
go
beyond
another?
No,
that's
how
I,
it
might
seems
simple,
but
I
know
that
that's
not
how
it
is,
but
the
other
part,
important
part
of
the
of
my
comment
was
to
add
another
step
to
the
the
overlaid.
A
A
L
Some
of
those
ideas
can
I
just
make
one
small
clarification:
Council
council
member
valda
moros
said
she
wants
to
make
sure
people
are
happy
to
host
these
in
the
neighborhood
and
I
think
we
need
to
acknowledge
that
there
might
be
some
neighborhoods.
That
might
never
be
happy.
J
A
O
Victoria
you
bring
a
good
point,
I,
don't,
unfortunately,
you
know
we
have
not
been
able
to
some
some
service
providers
and
some
hrcs
in
District,
Four
and
yeah.
My
district
has
been
extremely
graceful,
so
thank
you
to
the
constituency
that
has
been
patiently.
You
know,
working
with
the
hrcs
with
us
to
make
it
safe
for
themselves
and
for
people
in
nature
season
agencies,
but
what
I
was
trying
to
say
we
have
some.
O
Maybe
we
need
to
invest
more
time
and
more
funding
to
those
type
of
solutions,
because
the
HS
essentially
are
temporary
ones
like
supposedly
for
for
folks,
are
to
either
temporary
try
to
get
you
know
with
a
service
that
they
need,
whatever
it
be
work
or
housing
or
or
medical
services,
and
move
on
to
the
you
know
the
next
step,
which
could
be
a
first
step
house
or
a
supportive
permanent
support
of
housing,
whatever
that
might
be
or
deeply
affordable
unit
you
know
or
whatever.
So
maybe
that's
what
I
was
trying
to
think.
O
Okay
may
we
focus
more
on
those
than
than
allowing
more
agencies
and
more
emergency.
So
maybe
we
do
have
a
cap,
and
then
we
really
focus
on
on
the
other
ones.
That's
what
I
was
trying
to
say
and
I
think
people
would
be
happy
with
that.
O
A
R
O
H
May
I
ask
one
favor:
yes,
we
need
direction
on
one
more
item.
It's
the
one
councilmember
Dugan
brought
up
on
the
40
bed,
oh
Planning
Commission,
just
because
that
is
in
the
ordinance,
and
if
that
is
something
the
council
is
not
comfortable
with,
we
would
need.
We
would
need
a
straw
poll
or
direction
from
you
to
tell
the
planning
staff
to.
A
The
okay
I
have
a
follow-up
question
on
that,
then.
Aren't
there
other
uses
like
that
that
are
allowed
through
conditional
use
in
all
residential
zoning
like
group
homes
yeah,
they
tend
to.
M
In
the
smaller
density
residential
zones,
up
to
I
think
we
have
one:
that's
like
six,
just
that's
a
middle
ground
up
to
like
17
and
then
there's
one.
That's
larger,
like
large
group.
Homes
are
more
than
seven,
but
not
with
a
cap,
and
those
are
only
allowed
in
zoning
districts
that
allow
more
than
high
density.
Basically.
A
M
A
I
do
like
the
idea.
I.
Think
40
is
probably
too
high
and
has
all
the
unintended
Concepts
that
quinces
that
we
don't
know,
but
we
already
have
a
similar
pattern.
So
if
we
could
match
it
to
the
number
and
I
don't
know
if
there's
ever
a
homeless,
Resource
Center
for
six
people,
if
like
that,
would
ever
be
a
thing
that
the
providers
would
do.
But
if
we
could
match
it
to
the
number
that
we
do
for
group
homes,
I
would
be
more
comfortable
with
it.
But
40
to
me
feels
too
high
and.
J
Is
it
written
right
now
it's
at
40
so
and
it
and,
as
Nick
said,
there
hasn't
been
a
lot
of
understanding
there
and
there's
a
lot
of
unknown
consequences
to
it.
So
either
we
pull
it
or
they
just
have
to
review
those
numbers
and
maybe
adjust
a
bit.
But
as
a
trip
now
I
think
it's
it'd
be
not
in
our
best
interest
to
leave
it
at
40
and
as
as
it's
written,
I.
W
I
would
like
to
just
throw
this
out
there,
because
one
of
the
main
issues
we
have
you
know
the
the
providers
had
was
Staffing
and
the
more
the
smaller
the
units
are,
the
more
the
Staffing
that
they
need,
therefore,
not
being
able
to
service
the
community
that
we
need
to
service
so
by
because
you
know
making
it
smaller.
We
are
adding
another
burden
into
the
providers
to
double
up
on
stuff,
which
is
one
of
the
big
problems
we
have
so
just
throwing
out
there.
W
J
Understand,
but
this
one
would
just
be
a
conditional
use,
so
it
wouldn't
it
wouldn't
come
back
to
us,
so
it
wouldn't
be
like
the
overlay.
It
would
be
separate
from
the
overlay,
so
we
need
to.
If
we
want
to
have
it
in
our
court,
then
you
say:
yes,
you
can
have
any
size,
but
still
have
to
come
back
to
us,
but
the
maximum
size
of
200..
This
one
was
saying
that
up
to
40
it
could
be
conditional
use
and
it
doesn't
come
back
to
us
and
which
that's
that's
the
part
that
concerns
me
not
I.
J
Understand
the
providers.
Have
this
worry
about
the
sizes
and
and
the
funding
but
40
beds.
They
can
do
their
day
any
time
so
I
and
I
don't
agree
with
that,
and.
A
J
The
no
yeah
so
I
just
want
real
quick
thing.
You
know
the
Miami
project
that
we've
done
right
levels,
different
levels,
hrcs
that
very
should
be
temporary,
should
be
infrequent
permanent,
Supportive
Housing
mental
health.
All
that
stuff.
We
need
to
work
out,
keep
working
on
that
and
we
are
doing
that
because
we,
if
it
does,
if
we
do
it
well
and
do
it
right,
then
the
number
of
hrcs
would
be
need
to
come
down
and
we
have
plenty
of
HRS.
J
O
O
H
I
A
A
Three
yep
I've
totally
missed
that
one
thanks
three
is
funding
allocations
for
the
one-year
action
plan
for
Community,
Development
block
grants
and
other
federal
grants
for
fiscal
year
2023-2024.
We
have
Ben
luedke
from
Council
policy
staff
to
give
us
an
introduction:
Tony
Miller,
The
Milner,
the
director
of
hand
or
housing,
stability,
Heather,
Royale
and
Dylan
Hayes,
also
with
housing
stability.
To
present
this
I'm
gonna
run
and
grab
my
my
sheet
and.
S
K
K
Thanks
for
your
seat,
Ben
and
thanks
Council
chair
council
members,
Council
staff
for
giving
me
a
minute.
This
is
my
fourth
time
getting
to
present
to
you
our
recommendations
for
our
annual
HUD
and
Community
Development
grants.
These
are
one
of
those
rare
lines
of
funding
that
we
get
straight
from
the
federal
government
and
it's
with
a
lot
of
passion
and
Community
input
that
we
bring
you
these
recommendations
and
there's
a
lot
of
amazing
and
valuable
activities
and
programs
that
you
see
listed
right
there.
K
Our
annual
allocation
from
HUD
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
provide
direct
services
to
our
residents,
who
are
low
to
moderate
income,
vulnerable
and
often
historically
underserved
populations
and
neighborhoods.
The
HUD
funding
that
the
city
will
receive
this
year
for
FY
2324
included
some
minor
increases
in
funding
and
for
the
home
funding.
Specifically
a
slight
decrease
continued
and
increased
HUD
funding
will
be
critical,
as
our
one-time,
covid
related
cares,
act
and
arpa
emergency
housing.
Stabilization
fund
is
winding
down.
K
The
federal
increases
in
funding
that
support
the
preservation
and
creation
of
affordable
housing
and
increases
in
more
Equitable
opportunities,
such
as
home
and
cdbg,
will
be
particularly
important
as
the
cost
of
living
remains
at
all-time
highs
right
now.
Basically,
these
dollars
have
never
been
more
needed
following
recommendations
that
you
have
now
will
advance
a
lot
of
the
city's
goals.
K
As
a
heads
up,
we
will
be
starting
as
a
city
the
process
this
year
for
our
next
HUD
five-year
Consolidated
plan,
which
is
2025
to
2029,
and
you
as
the
council
will
be
an
integral
part
of
our
process
there
just
to
put
that
on
your
horizon
this
year.
The
recommendations
include
some
agencies
that
are
new
to
the
city's
HUD
funding
proposal
like
Wasatch,
Community,
Gardens
and
there's
some
new
and
diverse
programs
like
the
Fourth
Street
Clinic's
health
and
housing
transition
program
to
stabilize
formally
unhoused
individuals
into
housing.
K
I'm
also
happy
to
report
that
some
of
the
recommendations
Advance
the
goals
that
we
set
out
for
this
year
for
our
Administration
in
2023.
One
of
those
is
another
icast
project,
you'll
see
it
at
the
top
toward
the
top
of
the
list
and
that's
recommended
for
funding
under
cdbg.
It's
a
rehabilitation
and
decarbonization
project
that
would
convert
a
traditional
I'm.
Sorry,
a
transitional
housing
property
of
17
units
from
natural
gas
to
more
energy,
efficient
electricity,
improving
the
weatherization
of
each
unit
and
helping
to
improve
the
air
quality
for
All
City
residents.
K
There's
also
funding
recommended
for
several
housing
programs
that
aim
to
provide
new
home
ownership
opportunities
and
to
improve
long-term
affordability
throughout
the
city.
Kicking
this
off
right
now,
also
Begins,
the
public
comment
process
and
I
know
you
have
a
hearing
schedule
during
the
formal
meeting
this
evening.
We
hope,
of
course,
that
City
residents
will
keep
talking
to
us
about
these,
as
well
as
the
applicants
and
help
weigh
in
on
your
ultimate
decision.
K
We
wish
we
could
fund
them
all
and
I,
remember
being
on
the
council
and
having
to
make
some
hard
decisions
to
see
that
they
went
where
we
hoped.
I
also
want
to
thank
our
great
housing
stability
division,
who
are
sitting
here
before
you
for
facilitating
this
annual
process
every
year
and
giving
you
technical
expertise
on
these
funds.
So
I
present
these
recommendations
to
you
for
your
final
review
or
your
review
and
your
final
recommendations
rather
and
thank
you.
I,
look
forward
to
seeing
everything
good
These
funds
are
going
to
do
out
in
the
community.
S
Got
it
I
wanted
to
point
out
for
reference,
the
second
to
last
page
of
the
funding
log.
It
has
the
Consolidated
plan,
The
Five-Year,
Plan
goals
and
strategies.
This
is
a
handy
reference
and
each
of
the
applications
as
you
go
through
the
funding.
Log
In,
the
far
right
column,
it'll
identify
which
of
the
goals
is
being
advanced
in
order
to
qualify.
S
So,
as
the
mayor
mentioned,
we're
nearing
the
end
of
The
Five-Year
Plan
in
each
Five-Year
Plan,
the
council
identifies
which
goals
and
strategies
you
want
to
prioritize.
So
if
there's
something
missing
or
that
you
want
to
continue,
it's
helpful
to
keep
that
in
mind.
Let
the
staff
know
early
as
we
start
working
on
the
next
Five-Year
Plan.
S
Scott,
can
you
please
put
up
the
first
page
of
the
staff
report,
there's
a
chart
on
the
first
page,
which
compares
the
amount
of
funding
that
is
requested
compared
to
what
is
available
there.
It
is
this
situation
happens
every
year
where
the
amount
requested
exceeds
what's
available,
so
we
have
total
funding.
That's
almost
11
million
dollars
that
was
requested,
but
the
available
funding
is
two
million
dollars.
Less.
S
S
So
we'll
go
to
the
chart
on
page
three
next,
and
this
takes
a
eight-year
look
at
how
much
cdbg
funding
is
going
to
housing
and
I
wanted
to
point
this
out,
because
there's
a
upward
Trend
more
of
this
funding
source
is
going
to
support
the
city's
policy
goal
for
housing
and
one
of
the
ways
this
is
happening.
You
may
recall
last
month
during
a
housing
stability,
division
briefing,
they
talked
about
program
income,
so
these
are
funds
that
were
repaid
loans.
It's
called
program
income.
S
Q
Thank
you,
sorry
Ben,
and
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
I
feel
that
something
that
would
help
me
as
we
go
through
this
funding.
Log
is
if
we,
the
last
couple
of
months
between
sort
of
the
last
arpa
funding,
some
cdbg
leftover,
arpa
funding
stuff
the
housing
money.
You
know
we
did.
Six
million
there's
been
a
lot
going
on
through
the
Canon
and
hand,
it's
called
I'm,
sorry,
I.
A
Q
Not
call
it
hand
if
I
could
kind
of
like
get
all
of
those
things
in
an
easy
to
view.
Q
Look
at
where,
over
the
last
three
months,
we
have
been
funding
things
because
then
I
mean
there
are
some
programs
here
that
were
not
recommended
for
funding
that
I'd
like
to
fund
and
if
I
can
think,
oh
well,
we
gave
something
similar
to
this
over
with
this
money,
then
I
don't
feel
bad
taking
it
because
I
know
that
we've
given
it
does
that
make
sense,
and
so
I
think,
like
we've,
been
doing
a
lot
of
this
different
funding
sources
in
the
last
three
months
or
so
so
see
it
being
able
to
visualize
that
a
little
bit
like
in
a
full
way.
S
The
chart
that's
up
on
the
screen.
This
is
over
the
same
eight
year
period
as
the
previous
chart,
but
this
is
only
looking
at
the
hopwa
funding
and
there's
a
market
increase.
So
over
these
eight
years
the
funding
has
more
than
doubled.
This
is
because
there
was
a
change
in
the
federal
formula
to
determine
how
much
funding
each
jurisdiction
should
be
getting
for
this
Grant,
and
it
was
phased
in.
S
This
is
why
there's
like
a
step
increase
over
each
year,
it's
now
been
fully
implemented,
but
I
wanted
to
point
out
that,
unlike
the
other
three
grants
which
have
pretty
much
stayed
flat
or
actually
decreased,
this
one
has
significantly
increased,
so
there
may
be
an
opportunity,
as
we
saw
earlier,
for
the
applications
which
were
less
than
the
available
funding.
There
may
be
an
opportunity
for
the
city
to
work
with
the
community
service
providers
who
use
these
funds
to
better
plan
for
how
to
use
them
over
the
coming
years.
S
And
then
the
last
table
is
on
page
seven.
This
is
a
summary
of
the
funding
sources
for
all
four
grants.
There's
the
annual
award
from
HUD
and
you'll,
see
for
cdbg
and
for
home
there's
program,
income
included
as
well,
and
this
will
now
be
every
year.
You'll
see
this
included
previous
years.
Sometimes
it
was
sometimes
it
wasn't.
The
new
policy
is
to
include
it
every
year
and
then,
when
it
says,
recaptured
funding
this
happens
every
year.
Q
Thank
you
I.
This
may
be
in
your
staff
report
and
I'm.
Sorry
if
it
is
and
I
didn't
see
it,
but
do
we
have
information
on
on
that
recaptured
funding
who
it
came
from,
and
why?
Because
one
of
the
things
we
talk
about
and
I'm
pointing
to
Tony
and
everyone
at
the
table,
because
it
happens
every
year
is
when
we
get
really
excited
about
something
and
want
to
fund
even
more
and
then
it's
like.
Is
this
a
capacity
issue?
Is
this
and
and
so
in
order
to
kind
of
fix?
Some
of
that?
Q
S
There's
five
policy
questions
on
pages
three
and
four
of
the
staff
report.
I'll
just
point
out
two
of
them.
There
is
in
question
two:
a
list
of
five
programs
operated
by
the
housing
stability
division
they're
proposed
to
receive
altogether
a
little
over
2.4
million
dollars.
You
may
recall
from
briefings
last
month
that
these
programs
don't
currently
have
legislative
policy
guidance
from
the
council
and
the
council
expressed
interest
in
revisiting
this,
and
the
division
is
working
on
draft
policies
to
bring
to
you.
S
S
The
other
question
I'll
highlight
is
number
three:
it's
a
proposal
to
use
a
portion
of
the
home,
grant
funding
and
add
it
to
the
rda's
notice
of
funding,
availability
or
nofa.
So
HUD
requires
that
15
of
the
annual
award
for
home
be
set
aside
for
community
housing
development
organizations
and
the
city
has
struggled
to
meet
that
requirement.
Some
years
this
year
and
last
year
there
were
no
applications
from
qualifying
organizations
to
use
these
funds.
S
S
A
You
just
give
me
a
gut
check
on
I'm
looking
at
this
and
I
to
me.
It
strikes
me
as
there
are
fewer
requests
going
unfilled
than
there
are
in
previous
years.
Is
that
true?
Yes,
and
what
is
accounting
for
that?
Just
people
ask
for
less
or
all
those
other
funding
sources
filled
up
there.
I.
A
Okay,
because
I
it
seems
to
be
much
sadder
most
years.
So
that's
good
council
members.
Would
you
like
to
go
line
by
line
now
or
are
there
any
policy
questions
you
want
to
go
through?
First,
let's
go
line
by
line:
okay,
Scott
and
yes
thank
you.
This
is
not
the
only
time
we
will
talk
about
this,
so
we
will
let's
try
and
keep
this
to
the
scheduled
time.
That
means
10
more
minutes
for
this,
and
then
we
have
another
briefing
that
we'll
discuss
it
again
in
a
couple
of
weeks,
I.
S
D
S
You
want
me
to
sure
we
typically
will
just
say
page
one.
Do
council
members
have
any
questions
on
the
applications
or
are
there
any
applications
that
you'd
be
interested
in
shifting
funding
to
or
from.
A
T
This
category,
under
the
housing
as
well
I,
got
it
the
next
one
we
had
yeah
with
what
was
available.
Everyone
ended
up
getting
more
than
the
initial
request.
Mr.
A
Q
Q
Mr
terrified
me:
yes,
can
we
talk
about
application
number
in
housing,
so
obviously
we're
in
cdbg
under
the
housing,
so
application
number
one.
Q
Q
Yes,
so
each
of
those
applications
from
what
I'm
looking
at-
and
somebody
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
well,
they
may
be
from
different
organizations.
Three
of
them
are
from
our
housing
stability
division,
but
then
number
one
is
from
an
outside
organization,
are
all
housing,
repair
or
business,
repair
and
I?
Q
Think
if
we
add
up
that
total,
it's
like
probably
close
to
2
million,
if
not
more
2.3
million
out
of
quick
back
of
the
hand,
can
somebody
I
I,
know
that
there's
lots
of
things
that
need
to
be
repaired
and
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
assisting
people
to
stay
in
their
homes
and
be
safe
in
their
homes
and
all
of
those
things.
But
can
somebody
kind
of
walk
me
through
some
of
and
several
of
them,
the
three
that
are
from
from
our
own
nope
neighborhood
improvements?
Q
I
looks
like
the
three
that
are
from
housing.
Stability
are
all
increased
in
the
in
from
what
they
were
suggest.
What
they
were
asking.
The
recommendation
is
for
more
than
that,
just
by
a
few
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars,
but
still
so
I
kind
of
just
want
to
go
walk
through
those
things.
That's
a
that's
two
plus
million
dollars
on
repair.
Y
T
Yeah
so
number
one
is
assist
and
they're
kind
of
focused
more
on
Mobility
impairments
and
improvements
related
to
that.
So
that
is
a
thing
that
maybe
differentiates
that
program.
Number
seven
is
seniors:
oh
and
seniors,
yeah,
so
people
with
Mobility
impairments
and
also
seniors
to
age
in
place.
T
You
know
ramps
and
and
other
sorts
of
Home
Improvements
to
allow
for
that,
then
you
know
the
difference
between
four
and
five
with
the
housing
stability
repair
ones
is,
is
the
small
repair
program
is
also
targeting
seniors
and
that's
capped
at
a
thousand
dollars,
and
that
has
to
do
with
regulatory
things
that
kick
in
above
that
amount.
T
The
seniors
that's
capped
at
a
thousand
and
and
that's
Grant
based
Awards
and
then
then
the
you
know
seven
is
neighbor
works
and
that
is
the
program
that
they
applied
for
and
I
sorry
was
there
additional
clarification
between
the
programs
that
you
needed
or.
A
I,
so
four
is:
how
is
four
different
from
five?
It's
not
not
targeted
towards
seniors
yeah.
T
Four
is
not
targeted
towards
seniors
and
can
do
larger
repairs
that
are
above
the.
The
small
repair
program
is
really
targeted,
for
you
know
really
minor
repairs.
AA
A
Based
yeah
loan
based
okay,
so
four
is
a
loan
program.
Five
is
a
grant
program
targeted
for
seniors
lower
cap
one
is
going
to
assist,
which
is
also
for
seniors,
but
also
people
with
Mobility
impairment,
and
it
are
they.
This
is
actually
for
salaries
and
inspirational
Plus
direct
funding
for
properties,
correct,
okay
and
then
how
does
neighborworks
program
differentiate
between
those
two.
T
They
are
also
potentially
providing
down
payments
as
well
as
part
of
their
application,
in
that
one
and
I
think
that
would
probably
be
the
the
biggest
difference.
I
might
need
to
get
more
specifics
back
to
you
if
there
are
programmatic
differences,
I
wouldn't
want
to
necessarily
provide
incorrect
information,
but
I
will
say
that
you
know,
among
all
of
the
rehabilitation
providers,
that
there
is
pretty
good
communication
between
them.
If
they
get
applicants
that
you
know
qualify
for
other
ones,
they
will
refer
to
each
other.
T
Y
Another
quick
difference
is
just
those
other
ones.
The
ones
run
by
the
direct
service
programs
run
by
the
city,
but
then
also
assist
are
usually
border
to
border
throughout
the
city,
where
neighbor
Works
has
a
large
footprint
that
they
work
and
kind
of
give
priority
to.
On
the
west
side.
A
Okay,
so
then
the
number
five
one
I
it
seems
to
me
like
the
most
overlapping-
would
be
one
and
five.
Q
AA
AA
Little
bit
of
overlap,
and
actually,
if
it's
helpful,
we've
put
together
internally
kind
of
a
comparison
chart,
if
you
will,
amongst
all
these
different
Housing
Programs,
where
there
are
similarities
where
there
are
differences
where
there
might
be
overlap.
And
we
do.
We
have
a
monthly
project,
Partners
coordination
meeting,
where
we
all
hop
on
a
call
as
well
and
talk
through
projects.
But
if
it's
helpful,
we
can
provide
that
chart
for
a
future
abbreviation.
AA
A
AA
Their
Mobility
correct,
their
main
focus
is
mobility
and
accessibility,
and
that's
typically,
they
run
all
of
their
stuff
through
us
as
well.
We
have
to
do
environmental
reviews
for
every
single
project
they
do,
and
that
is
largely
what
they
are
focusing
on
is
accessibility
and
Mobility,
particularly
grab
bars
things
that
help
people
age
in
place.
They
can
go
outside
of
that
and
they
certainly
would
be
allowed
to
based
on
the
activity
that
they're
under
for
cdbg,
but
that
is.
Z
Q
Just
a
quick
follow-up
question:
I,
don't
remember
seeing
this
program
in
the
past.
Is
this
a
new
program
or.
Z
Q
That's
okay!
So
how
many
people
do
we
get
that
come
in
and
utilize?
That
program
would
just
quick
guess
off
the
top
of
your
head.
If
you
have
it
that
actually
utilize
that
program
per
year.
A
A
W
And
this
is
a
question
that
applies
maybe
to
to
all
the
ones
that
have
they
have
recommended
money
higher
than
what
they're
requested.
How
are
you
know
are
we?
Are
we
supporting
more
of
the
salary
side?
Are
we
supporting
everything
you
know
equally
balanced
it
all
out
or
or
do
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they're
putting
that
extra
money
into
more
outgoing,
you
know
more
grants
or
more
loans
or
whatever
they
are
doing
right.
So
this
is
a
more
generic
question.
W
In
this
case
the
requested
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
assist
and
they
are
recommended
to
get
926
000,
that's
126
000
more
than
recommended.
What
are
we,
what
are
they
using
the
money
for
salaries
versus
more
outgoing
money
and
that
I
would
prefer
that
it
is
more
about
outgoing
money
than
salaries,
but
I
think
that's
a
question
that
I
would
like
to
to.
L
As
the
token
non-profit,
professional
General
operating
is
important,
nonprofits
need
skillful
people
to
execute
their
mission
and
finding
money
to
pay
salaries
is
really
hard.
So
if
we
can
pay
a
salary
and
they
can
fundraise
for
a
grab
bar
I'm,
all
for
that
I
have
questions
on
number.
Six
I
feel
like
we've,
had
a
lot
of
questions
about
Community,
Land
Trust
and
how
that's
actually
operating
I.
L
Think
a
few
of
us
are
even
surprised
that
we
have
a
Community,
Land,
Trust,
already
active,
and
so
I
would
really
really
really
like
to
resolve
those
questions
and
really
get
a
lot
of
clarity
on
how
it
operates.
Number
six,
our
housing
stability,
shared
Equity
programs,
typically
I'm
super
in
support
of
it,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
clear
on
the
structure
and
how
it's
moving
sure.
As
part
of
this
conversation.
Y
Just
really
quick
just
to
answer
councilman
pooey's
question
is
anything
that
you'd
like
to
kind
of
the
exact
breakdown
for
Direct
Services
direct
client
costs
versus
admin
that
can
be
provided
there.
Most
of
them
do
have
caps
for
everything
for
cdbg
everything.
They're
total
asked
they
can't
go
before
above
20
in.
P
AB
Y
L
L
A
Think
similar
to
how
you
said,
there's
a
chart
that
you
know
says
the
overlaps
and
difference
between
all
these
housing
assistance.
Programs,
I,
think
the
overlaps
in
different
new
land,
trust
in
hand
or
in
housing,
accessibility
and
in
RDA
and
Perpetual
housing
fund
and
what
I
know
that's
beyond
hand.
But
if
we
can
figure
out
how
to
get
all
of
those
things
onto
one
page
that
we
understand
what
this
program
does
and
does
not,
and
and
vice
versa
for
all
the
other
ones.
That
would
be
helpful
follow-up.
W
Is
for
sure,
quick,
the
the
to
this
point?
We
give
the
housing
stability
division
250
000
this
is
mentioned
there.
I
would
like
to
know
what
that
do
and
I
again.
I
love
this
program,
but
I
just
want
to
know
what
the
money
is
doing
or
are
we
holding
the
money
or
keeping
the
money?
What
is
the
plan
here
so
just
to
follow
up
on.
O
A
P
A
Speaking
from
response,
some
more
understanding
as
to
what's
happening
where
so,
it's
not
that
I
don't
want
the
program
to
happen.
It's
that
I
want
it
to
be
as
successful
as
possible.
Yeah
I
agree.
D
A
You
all
right,
let's
move
on
to
I
now,
let's
move
to
item
four:
this
is
the
citizen
compensation
advisory
committee,
2023
annual
report,
Ben
ludke
from
Council
staff
is
still
here
and
then
we
have
Mike
Terry.
The
comp
citizen
compensation
advisory
committee-
chair
Deb,
Alexander-
is
not
here
with
us
today
and
David
Sal
is
our
Compensation
Program
manager
is.
Is
there
anyone
else
with
you
David
great.
S
Just
a
quick
intro,
the
CCAC
is
an
official
City
committee
and
per
city
code.
Each
year
they
present
an
annual
report
and
recommendations
to
the
mayor
and
the
council.
It's
due
in
March
each
year,
which
is
intended
to
provide
the
recommendations
before
the
annual
budget
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
David.
AC
To
me,
just
really
quick
I'll
introduce
Mike
Terry,
who
is
the
chair
of
the
committee
this
year
and,
of
course,
a
independent
committee.
We
act
a
support
to
them
in
the
HR
department,
so
this
is
really
his
show
to
to
present
to
you
today
and
I'll,
be
here,
of
course,
to
address
any
other
questions
that
might
be
more
City
specific.
F
Thank
you
for
having
me
again
the
the
committee
is
we're
volunteer
committee,
we're
advisory.
We
we
come
once
a
once
a
year
and
give
you
a
report
on
Market
a
market
study
and
sort
of
the
the
compensation
world.
What
we're
seeing
in
Trends
within
the
within
the
the
HR
and
salary
World
they're,
not
here
but
I'd
like
to
introduce
my
my
board
with
me
again:
I'm
Mike,
Terry
I'm,
the
chair,
Brandon
Dew,
is
my
vice
chair.
F
We
also
have
Jana
bake,
Jeff
herring,
Casey,
Lund,
Ray,
Shelby
and
Jeff
Worthington
on
our
board,
and
we
are
a
diverse
background,
but
all
sort
of
have
ties
to
compensation
where,
where
Municipal
HR
people
we're
Union
representatives
were
benefits,
experts
and
retired
firefighters,
so
we
have
quite
a
quite
a
unique
group,
but
all
very
passionate
about
compensation
and
especially
the
compensation
for
Salt
Lake
City
employees.
F
The
the
the
overall
theme
I
guess
of
this
is
that
there
are
there
are
there
are
Trends
out
there
that
are
impacting
compensation
and
labor
shortages
is
one
and
inflation
is
the
second
one,
and
so
the
report
talks
primarily
about
those
two
main
issues
and
so
to
start
off
with
the
research
among
Global
compensation,
consulting
firms
including
world
at
work,
Willis,
Towers,
Watson
and
Mercer.
All
revealed
salary,
budgets
and
wages
are
increasing
higher
than
ever.
F
Another
4.1
percent
in
2023.,
looking
ahead
to
2023
Sal
de
fonso,
managing
director
of
compensation
and
rewards
at
Gallagher
benefits
said
that
the
most
Salient
Trend
he
saw
in
2022
is
a
break
from
the
historic
trend
of
three
percent
increases
that
now
that
businesses
are
looking
at
four
to
five
percent
increases
in
2023
continuing
on.
There
is
no
Utah
Consumer
Price
Index,
but
the
U.S
Bureau
of
Labor
Statistics
show
that
Nationwide
the
cost
of
Market
in
urban
consumers.
F
We've
heard
that
it
may
be
easing
a
little
bit,
but
it
is
still
present
as
well.
The
other
part
that
is
sort
of
this
perfect
storm
of
getting
good
employees
and
paying
them
to
to
come
and
to
stay
is
the
the
labor
market.
F
Mercer
senior
principal
Lauren
Mason
stated
that
we
see
in
our
research
and
work
with
clients
that
labor
shortages
have
been
the
key
driver
of
heightened
Merit
increases.
Non-Inflation
Mason
specified
that
labor
shortages,
the
cost
of
Labor
and
business
performance,
were
the
top
three
factors.
Organizations
said
we're
impacting
their
23
budgets,
so
we
have.
We
have
Labor
shortages
and
we
have
inflation
as
the
two
main
drivers
there
here
locally
Mark
knolled,
our
chief
Economist
at
the
State's
Department
of
Workforce
Services,
said
that
all
of
22
will
be
categorized
as
a
robust
economic
year
for
Utah.
F
Continuing
on
the
top
of
Page
Three,
the
U.S
Bureau
of
Labor
Statistics
latest
State
unemployment
report
marked
the
Beehive
State
starting
the
new
year
with
the
lowest
unemployment
rate
in
the
nation
at
2.2
percent,
although
slightly
higher
at
the
national
level,
economists
have
noted.
3.5
percent
is
the
lowest
unemployment
rate
seen
in
the
U.S
in
more
than
50
years.
F
So
what
that
means
is
that
and
Mark
Knoll
said
this
in
a
in
a
video
conference
that
I
watched
that
for
every
two
job
openings
there
is
one
person
looking
to
fill
that
job.
So
half
of
the
jobs
that
are
open
are
not
being
filled
and
the
the
supply
and
demand
of
this
labor
is
such
that
with
such
demand
for
workers
and
the
the
supply
of
these
workers
is
not
sufficient
to
meet
the
needs.
The
cost
of
this
labor
is,
of
course,
going
to
go
up.
F
So
our
first
recommendation,
as
a
committee
they're
in
the
middle
of
Page
Three,
is
considering
these
market
conditions,
labor
shortages
and
inflation.
Our
committee
recommends
that
the
the
council
consider
a
salary
budget
increase
of
no
less
than
five
percent,
and
our
information
is
that
this
is
consistent
with
what
other
local
municipalities
in
the
valley
are
doing.
I
personally
work
at
Salt,
Lake
County,
and
they
did
an
eight
percent
I
think
I
think
five
percent
is
within
what
is
happening
here
in
the
valley.
F
We
also
want
to
ensure
that
Salt
Lake
City
is
a
pay
leader.
We
understand
that
the
the
type
of
work
that
Salt
Lake
City
employees
do
is
significantly
different
and
more
diverse
than
other
municipalities
in
the
valley
you
offer
services
and
deal
with
a
a
public
that
is,
that
is
different
than
other
municipalities,
and
your
employees
I
think,
should
be
rewarded
for
that
work.
F
F
What
trends
they're
doing
the
second
one
is
market
analysis
of
specific
jobs,
and
what
we
do
is
we
work
with
your
human
resource,
folks,
David
Salazar
and
his
team,
and
they
use
a
company
called
pay
factors
and
pay
factors
provides
us
with
a
pay
analysis
for
the
most
part
here
locally,
both
private
and
public
sector,
and
the
reason
we
focus
on
the
the
Wasatch
Front
is
because
we
have
found
in
the
past
that
the
majority
of
the
applicants
and
the
new
hires
here
at
the
city
are
from
the
Wasatch
Front
there.
F
There
has
not
been
any
evidence
that
a
lot
of
out-of-state
hiring
is
happening
and
therefore
we
have
focused
most
of
our
resources
on
the
the
salary
surveys
that
we
do
here
locally.
So
the
city
is
organized
this.
This
salary
study
into
84
distinct
Benchmark
groups,
which
is
1382
employees,
which
is
roughly
46
percent
of
the
the
city's
full-time,
regular
full-time
employees.
It's
there's
so
many
job
titles
in
the
city.
It
would
be,
it
would
be
impossible
to
survey
all
of
them.
So
we
survey
Benchmark
groups
and
we
we
tie.
F
We
tie
different
jobs
into
these
Benchmark
groups
and
then
we
survey
one
of
the
jobs
in
The
Benchmark
group
and
then
every
other
job
in
The
Benchmark
group
is
tied
to
that
Benchmark.
So,
for
example,
at
the
top
of
page
four
there's
an
accountant
one,
an
accountant,
two
accountant,
three
accountant,
four.
F
So
in
this
example,
we
would
survey
the
accountant
three
and
if
it
is
determined
that
accountant
three
is
needing
some
sort
of
salary
study
or
further
Market
adjustment,
then
every
accountant
in
that
series
would
be
adjusted
by
the
same
amount
to
keep
them
all,
spread
out.
Accountants,
one
through
four
and
then,
if,
if
a
particular
Benchmark
job
is
significantly
below
Market,
we
would
make
an
adjustment
to
to
that
job.
F
Then
we
take.
We
take
all
the
benchmarks
that
were
surveyed
and
we
break
them
down
into
three
separate
and
distinct
groups,
and
the
reason
we
do
that
is
each
of
these
three
groups
has
a
different
pay
philosophy,
pay
plan,
practice
and
structure.
So
the
first
group
is
afscme.
Those
are
your
representative
representative,
Union
employees.
The
second
group
is
Public
Safety.
F
That
includes
your
firefighters
and
your
police
officers
and
your
Public
Safety
dispatchers
and
then
the
third
group
are
your
non-represented
employees
and
then
we
take
those
and
we
we
do
a
study
and
and
we'll
see
on
the
following
pages.
But
we
we
we
look
at
four
different
criteria
of
each
of
these
benchmarks,
and
so,
if
a
benchmark
is
90
percent
relative
to
the
market,
meaning
it's
ten
percent
below
average
below
Market,
we
would
consider
that
significantly
lagging
meaning.
F
We
would
want
to
look
at
that
if
it,
if
a,
if
a
benchmark
is
90.1
percent
to
98
percent,
we
would
call
that
slightly
lagging
and
then,
if
a
job
is
98.1
percent
to
109
109.9
percent,
we
would
call
that
competitive,
meaning
we're
in
line
with
what
the
market
is
paying
and
then,
if
we
have
a
job,
that's
110.
That
means
we're
we're
10
over
what
the
market
is
paying
and
we
would
call
that
significantly
leading
so
page.
F
Five
is
where
the
AFS
me
jobs
are
listed
and
you
can
see
that
there,
the
key
is
at
the
top.
That's
significantly
lagging.
Those
would
be
marked
as
what
would
we
say
that
is
purple
pink
fuchsia,
fuchsia
fuchsia.
F
F
We
do
have
five
benchmarks
there
that
make
up,
maybe
a
dozen
employees
that
are
slightly
lagging,
and
these
These
are
sorted
by
the
by
the
the
most
lagging
to
the
least
lagging.
So
the
ones
at
the
top
of
this
list
would
be
the
ones
that
we
would
look
at
first
for
Market
adjustments.
F
The
next
page
is
our
Public
Safety
again.
Luckily,
we
do
not
have
any
that
are
significantly
lagging,
because
this
is
something
that
we
do
every
year.
We
hope
to
address
these
while
they're
in
the
slightly
lagging
phase
before
they
get
to
significantly
lagging
occasionally,
markets
change
things
change
and
they
do
get
into
that
significantly
lagging.
But
luckily,
in
this
case,
we
only
have
three
benchmarks
that
are
even
slightly
lagging
and
all
the
rest
are
competitive
with
the
public
safety
and
then
for
our
non-representative
employee
groups.
That
chart
is
on
page
eight.
F
There
are
40
Benchmark
groups,
and
we
are,
we
do
see
eight,
it
looks
like
that
are
significantly
lagging.
You
can
look
at
those
job,
titles,
their
I.T
jobs,
the
office
facilitator
too,
a
paralegal
a
licensed
architect.
Those
are
the
types
of
positions
that
are
significantly
lagging,
and
then
we
have
a
handful
looks
like
seven
benchmarks
that
are
slightly
lagging
and
then
the
rest
are
either
competitive
or
significantly
leading.
F
So
the
reason
we
show
this
to
you
is
that
you
know,
as
funding
allows.
A
recommendation
is
that
those
that
are
either
significantly
lagging
or
slightly
lagging,
receive
Market
adjustments
and
be
brought
up,
and
if,
if
push
comes
to
shove
and
and
you're,
not
able
to
to
address
all
of
those
lagging
positions,
we
would
hope
that
you
would
at
least
prioritize
the
significantly
lagging
first
and
then,
if
possible,
move
on
to
the
slightly
lagging
at
the
end
of
the
report.
F
We
do
have
some
appendices
for
you
to
look
at
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
them,
but
there's
some
interesting
information
on
recruitment
statistics
on
turnover
and
also
I
found
it
interesting
that
there's
some
information
there
on.
Where
are
we?
Where
are
we
hiring
some
of
our
police
officers
from
you?
F
You
successfully
were
able
to
rehire
some
of
your
police
officers
that
that
left
the
city
and
decided
to
come
back
and
I
applaud
you
for
the
steps
that
you
have
taken
to
make
that
happen,
because
attracting
and
retaining
police
officers
is
a
very
challenging
thing
at
the
moment
and
I
think
you
are
making
strides
in
improving
that
situation
and
at
that
time
that's
or
that's
all
I
have
to
say
at
the
moment,
I
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have
about
our
committee
or
any
of
the
information
I
presented.
A
A
And
what,
if
they're
so,
would
that
be
the
first
priority
or
would
addressing
the
significantly
lagging
positions?
For
instance,
what,
if
like,
if
we
were
to
give
the
five
percent
increase
to
everybody,
except
for
the
significantly
leading,
and
they
got
a
three
percent
increase
and
then
that
additional
money
could
go
to
the
significantly
lagging?
Is
there
would
there
be
a
hybrid
proposal,
or
is
it
do
five
percent
first
and
then
address
significantly
lagging.
F
AC
Yeah
well,
I
can
tell
you
what's
been
done,
but
practice
in
the
past
has
been.
We
would
generally
see
that
General
increase
go
to
everybody.
What
that
does
is
it
helps
eat
into
the
deficit
that
we
have
with
some
of
those
jobs
that
are
lagging
market,
so
if
they
receive
a
five
percent
increase
and
the
data
shows
that
they're
lagging
by
10
percent,
then
we've
already
cut
into
half
of
that.
AC
So
there's,
maybe
just
that
much
more-
that
we
would
want
to
Grant,
above
and
beyond
the
general
increase
to
get
them
within
two
percent
of
market
last
year.
That
was
the
standard
that
the
committee
adopted
was
that
we
used
to
gauge
or
consider
ourselves
to
be
competitive
if
we
were
within
five
percent,
but
NFP
last
year
advised
and
recommended
to
the
committee
and
to
the
council
that
we
change
up
that
standard
because
of
the
challenge
that
we're
all
having
and
hiring
and
that
we
should
consider
ourselves
not
competitive
over
more
than
two
percent
below
market.
A
AC
And
the
work
that
we
do
for
the
committee,
it's
the
same
benchmarks
generally
every
year,
so
we're
we're
surveying
and
collecting
data
on
all
of
the
same
jobs
every
year.
So
we
have
a
pretty
good
handle
a
pretty
good
sense
if
it's
about
what's
happening.
What
we
see
sometimes
because
the
market
shifts
is
that
there's
just
some
jobs
where,
like
Mike,
said,
the
supply,
the
talent
that's
out
there
just
is
hard
to
find,
and
so
wages
are
continuing
to
itch
up
inch
up,
because
everybody's
fighting
for
that
same
Talent
is.
A
There
I
mean
I
suppose
that
granular
of
data
would
probably
happen
at
the
hiring
level
to
the
direct
department
or
division
director
level
would
be
the
ones
that
understand
how,
where
what
positions
are
having
a
hard
time
filling
so
I
guess
maybe
it's
just.
Is
there
a
feedback
loop
between
HR
and
right?
Those
directors.
AC
And
in
addition
to
these
recommendations
that
the
council
and
mayor
receive
in
this
report,
for
which
jobs
should
be
targeted
for
Market
adjustments,
we
are
looking
throughout
the
year.
Fortunately,
we
have
the
flexibility
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
make
adjustments
even
mid-year.
If
we
need
to
if
we
find
that,
for
example,
there's
a
particular
job
that
a
department
is
needing
to
fill,
we
can't
hire
enough
planners
or
we
can't
get
engineers
and
we
can
go
to
our
salary
data
and
say
well
we're
lagging
the
market.
So,
let's
make
a
mid-year
adjustment
again.
AC
A
A
We
are
scheduled
until
4
25.
So
let's
take
15
minutes
and
we'll
come
back
to
our
State
Legislative
briefing.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
A
Started
again
after
our
break,
thank
you
for
being
patient.
While
we
got
a
little
break
in
there,
we
are
moving
on
to
item
number
six,
which
is
should
I
start
that
over
okay
there's
crazy
computer
things
going
on,
but
we
are
back
from
our
break.
Thank
you
for
allowing
us
that
time
we
are
on
to
item
number
six,
which
is
a
State
Legislative
briefing
from
Kate
Bradshaw,
who
is
director
of
government
Affairs
for
the
city.
AD
I
have
made
y'all
a
little
PowerPoint
and
it's
probably
got
more
information
than
we
can
possibly
cover
in
the
time
on
the
agenda,
and
you
know
that
I
can
go
on
and
on
and
on
about
the
political
process,
and
so
my
hope
is
that
you'll,
maybe
flip
through
and
if
there's
particular
areas
that
you're
interested
in
then,
let's
let's
focus
on
those
and
if
not
then
there's
some
information
that
just
might
be
handy
for
you
to
have
in
particular
towards
the
end,
is
some
information
on
the
tax
cuts
and
tax
package
that
that
you
might
find
personally
interesting
or
your
your
residents
in
your
districts.
AD
You
might
find
it
helpful
to
have
that
information.
You
know
they
weren't
some
of
the
income
tax
cuts,
in
particular,
weren't
priority
bills
to
track
on
the
Salt,
Lake
City
tracking
system,
but
I
thought
you
might
find
that
information
handy,
so
it's
in
there
and
we
can
go
over
it.
The
first
thing
I
just
want
to,
let
you
know
is
we
tracked
430
bills.
This
session
keep
in
mind.
575
bills
passed,
so
we
tracked
a
lot
of
bills
by
comparison.
The
league
of
cities
and
towns
tracked
244
bills.
AD
That
tells
us
a
couple
of
things,
one
that
you
know
as
Rachel
and
I
had
a
discussion
recently
that
we
were
tracking
potentially
too
many
bills.
We
need
to
refine
The
Sweep,
we're
doing
for
the
Departments
and
and
maybe
Whittle
that
down,
but
we're
we're
tracking
a
lot
of
bills
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
capturing
anything
that
might
have
an
impact
on
on
the
city.
On
the
operations
of
your
departments,
a
huge
amount
of
work
and
Thanks
goes
to
Cindy,
Lou
and
Olivia.
Who,
who
spearheaded
you
know
developing
this
new
tracking
system?
AD
It
worked
amazingly
well,
yes,
she
deserves
that.
It
worked
amazingly
well
much
better
than
the
last
two
systems
we've
tried
and
we
and
we
put
it
through
its
Paces
by
tracking
430
bills
which,
by
the
way
generated
I,
think
670
records
because,
of
course,
substitutes
counted
as
their
own
record.
So
they
they
made
us
a
new
system
and-
and
we
put
it
through
its
Paces,
several
of
you,
of
course
served
on
the
legislative
subcommittee.
AD
Thank
you
for
giving
all
that
extra
time.
I
know
several
of
you
came
up
to
testify
on
different
bills
and
I
know
that
the
legislative
session-
it's
it's,
never
convenient.
It
never
gives
you
plenty
of
planning
notice.
So
I
appreciate
when
you
were
able
to
come
up
and
testify
and
give
that
expertise
on
issues.
AD
AD
They
they
put
in
a
lot
of
extra
time
during
the
legislative
session.
So
I
don't
know
who
is
advancing
the
slides.
But
unless
you
all
interrupt
me
with
things,
you
want
to
talk
about.
Okay,
we're
ready
to
advance.
AD
Well,
now,
I'm
going
to
the
fabulous
legal
disclaimer,
our
firm
makes
us
put
up
and
then
the
next
page,
just
I
thought
we'd
start
with
some
levity.
Just
the
important
bills
I
enjoy
our
list
of
state
things,
and
last
year
the
state
crustacean
did
not
make
it
this
year.
The
state
crustacean
did
make
it.
The
brine
shrimp
is
now
our
state
crustacean,
I
enjoy
keeping
track
of
these,
so
I
thought
I'd
include
it,
and
then
we
also
have
a
state
mushroom
and
before
you
think
that
it's
a
psychedelic
mushroom,
it's
not.
AD
It
is
a
culinary
mushroom.
It's
the
porcini,
it
did
also
become
the
the
state
mushroom.
So
in
addition
to
our
other
state
things
which
is
relevant
to
the
next
slide,
these
These
are
now
in
that
that
list
we
are
getting
a
new
state
flag.
I
wanted
this
flag.
Can.
Q
Q
Thank
you
for
putting
this
up
this,
would
that
was
actually
a
design
for
the
Salt
Lake
City
flag,
the
go
forward,
one
slide,
and
my
very
good
friend
and
public
defender
Mr
Grant
Miller,
designed
that
so
I'm
going
to
give.
S
V
V
B
B
AD
We'll
need
to
do
an
update,
so
his
his
partner
is
someone
that
we
work
with,
and
so
we
were
happy
to
try
and
promote
this.
It
was
also,
but
as
a
state
flag,
it
actually
made
it
to
the
top
25
when
it
mysteriously
disappeared.
Off
of
your
voting
options,
you
saw
admitted
it
as.
AD
AD
The
governor
said
today
that
he
doesn't
intend
to
veto
any
of
the
bills,
so
I,
don't
I,
think
it
will
get
signed
or
at
least
it'll
go
into
law
without
his
signature,
he
has
until
the
23rd
to
complete
his
his
review
process
and
either
sign
veto
or
let
go
into
law
without
his
signature.
He
had
indicated
early
in
the
in
the
process
that
there
were,
like
maybe
16
bills.
He
was
looking
at
those
kind
of
all
died
or
were
significantly
modified
throughout
legislative
process.
AD
AD
Know
and
I
think
we'll
we'll
all
be
sporting.
You
know
socks
and
backpacks
and
all
kinds
of
things
with
the
flag,
the
new
state
flag
soon.
So
that
was
just
a
moment
of
levity
to
kick
this
off.
The
next
slide
as
a
political,
nerd.
I
just
find
this
interesting,
so
I
always
share
it,
because
I
think
it
illustrates
just
how
kind
of
crazy
the
session
could
be
as
a
time
period.
The
blue
line
is
the
introduced
bills.
The
online
is
the
past
bills.
We
hit
a
record
this
year.
AD
575
bills
passed
929
bills
introduced
just
for
fun.
I
have
never
seen
in
my
18
years
of
lobbying
a
bill
in
the
house
number
into
the
500s.
Usually
a
bill
in
the
400s
was
going
to
struggle
to
pass
and
probably
just
die
on
the
clock.
They
numbered
up
to
Bill
five
House
Bill
567
this
year
and
in
the
Senate
they
were
numbered
up
to
SB
300.
So
these
are
just
amazing
totals
you
know.
The
record
breaker
was
Senator
Harper.
He
filed
31
bills.
He
passed
28.
AD
Senator
Fillmore
filed
24,
past
20,
Todd
Wyler
filed
24,
past
16
on
the
house
side.
Ryan
Wilcox
was
the
winner
25
past
20.,
so
there
were
a
lot
of
bills
this
session
and
you
guys
can
interrupt
any
time
when
you
want
to
skip
to
other
other
updates.
The
next
slide
is
just
kind
of
a
short
overview
on
the
budget.
This
was
the
largest
state
budget.
AD
I
remember
when
I
worked
for
the
state
legislature,
we
had
just
entered
the
teens
of
billions
in
terms
of
the
state
budget,
and
you
know
now
we
are
at
this
massive
amount.
I
thought
it
was
interesting,
just
there's
still
a
little
bit
of
arpa
money
floating
in
the
state
budget,
so
kind
of
included
that
for
you,
the
next
slide
I
do
want
to
spend
some
some
time
on,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
aware
of
some
of
the
great
work
of
members
of
the
lobby
team.
AD
If
we
can
a
city
where
you
the
controller,
go
to
the
next
one,
it's
in
the
air
Scott
thanks
Scott,
so
the
legislative
subcommittee
prioritized
different
requests.
Some
of
these
came
from
organizations.
The
city
is
aligned
with.
Some
of
these
were
direct
asks.
Those
that
are
in
green
are
those
that
were
funded.
AD
Those
in
red
did
not
get
funded,
the
one
that's
in
Black,
it
has
an
asterisk,
so
I
didn't
make
it
any
color
I
slept
at
black,
and
that
is
because
there's
800
million
that
went
in
that
are
is
going
to
be
appropriated
to
different
projects
closer
to
May.
So
it's
maybe
they'll
receive
some
funding
for
this
particular
project.
7200
West
800
million,
went
into
the
infrastructure.
L
AD
Yeah
and
I
think
I
think
it's
made
time
frame
that
that'll
be
prioritized
a
big
shout
out.
You
know
this
is
the
second
year
we
were
asking
for
money
for
the
Salt
Lake
Cemetery
to
assist
with
the
infrastructure.
AD
You
all,
of
course,
have
put
a
place,
a
bond
to
help
cover
those
costs
with
the
master
plan.
I
want
to
shout
out
Dave
Copeland,
Joe
pyra
and
in
particular,
Zach
Bramble,
for
a
great
strategy
in
moving
this
forward.
The
tours
definitely
helped
and
got
the
attention
of
some
key
legislative
spouses
that
are
way
into
genealogy
and
Pioneer
history
and
that
ended
up
being
kind
of
part
of
the
winning
combination
there.
At
the
end,
to
get
this
funding
through
we're,
of
course,
able
to
get
and.
U
Just
interrupt
really
quick
and
say
thanks
to
my
colleagues
on
the
council,
for
letting
this
be
the
priority
for
two
years
and
for
when
we
needed
people
to
call
and
pull
all
the
levers
at
the
last
minute.
Thank
you
for
doing
that.
AD
The
next
is
the
shelter
mitigation
funds,
the
state
match
two
and
a
half
cities
through
a
change
in
the
formula
will
be
contributing
an
additional
2.8
that
the
city
will
be
able
to
apply
for
in
terms
of
mitigating
the
issues
around
homeless
shelters.
We
were
not
able
to
get
funding
for
for
Deer
Creek
Reservoir
Salt
Lake's,
a
partner
in
in
this
Reservoir.
It's
it's
received
some
federal
funding
to
to
rebuild
the
the
dam,
but
is
still
a
little
bit
short.
AD
They
don't
need
this
money
immediately,
so
it'll
probably
be
something
we
suggest
it's
a
priority
for
the
next
legislative
session
in
between
this
is
a
small
dollar
amount,
but
apparently
it
fills
a
gap
in
kind
of
a
Medicaid
Insurance
Gap
that
needed
to
be
filled
there.
So
I
won't
spend
too
much
time
on
the
rest
of
those
requests.
AD
If
you
have
any
questions,
I'm
happy
to
go
into
it,
but
very
happy
and
excited
to
see
the
cemetery
one
come
through
and
again
great
great
job
by
the
Sego
team
to
really
dog
that
one
all
the
way
to
the
end.
It
wasn't
funded
on
the
first
Appropriations
list,
but
they
were
able
to
pull
it
off
the
last
week.
AD
Taylor,
we're
ready
go
for
it
to
the
next
one.
The
the
majority
caucuses
set
their
priorities
in
advance
of
the
session.
They
publicized
their
top
three
priorities.
AD
I
just
thought
we'd
capture
them
here,
just
so
you
can
see
these
are.
These
are
what
they
wanted
their
priorities
to
be
when
they
headed
into
the
session
and
I
would
say
that
yes,
the
they
each
of
the
the
two
majority
caucuses
were
able
to
put
check
marks
by
each
of
these
things.
AD
Teacher
salaries,
you
know
a
six
percent
increase
to
the
weighted
pupil
unit
is
a
significant
increase
that
will
flow
to
teachers.
We
have
another
slide
that
I'll
go
to
that
talks
about
different
Great,
Salt,
Lake,
Solutions
and
funding,
and
then
the
tax
cut,
slides
I
mentioned
in
the
back
next
slide.
AD
This
one
I
thought
you
might
just
find
interesting.
This
was
a
significant
change
in
strategy
for
the
legislature.
Traditionally,
the
big
issues
get
worked
on
and
battled
on
and
work
groups
formed,
and
you
know
committee
hearings
with
changes
and
they
go
all
the
way
to
the
end
and
they
pass
at
the
end
of
the
session
this
session
there
was
a
at
the
end
of
the
2022
session.
There
was
clearly
a
concerted
change
in
strategy
to
move
some
of
these
bills
early
to
to
work
on
them
over
the
interim
and
move
them
early
and
fast.
AD
For
instance,
HP
215,
which
is
the
the
voucher
bill
that
passed
in
10
days-
that's
that
includes
you,
know
weekends.
The
the
session
operates
on
a
on
calendar
days,
so
passing
in
10
days
and
being
on
the
governor's
desk
on
day.
12
is
lightning
fast,
and
so
that
was
an
interesting
shift
in
terms
of
a
kind
of
a
coordinated
strategy
for
the
majority
caucuses.
To
move
these
these
particular
bills
through
very
quickly
hb-131
vaccine
passports.
AD
This
is
a
a
ban
on
an
employer
requiring
any
vaccines,
not
just
covered
vaccines
of
their
employees,
and
this
one
was
heavily
contested
last
session.
It
was
the
subject
of
a
a
very
Rowdy
Committee
hearing
that
led
to
an
arrest
last
session
did
not
pass
this
year.
It
moved
through
in
16
days.
It
probably
does
say
also
a
lot
about
generally
the
fatigue
of
many
about
covid
that
this
year
it
moved
through
so
fast
exact,
same
bill,
as
in
the
2022
session.
U
On
the
previous
slide,
Great
Salt
Lake
being
the
House's
number
one
priority:
where
were
the
deliverables
on
that.
AD
This
is
the
package
of
bills
that
move
through
I
hope.
You
appreciate
the
phrase
Lorax
of
the
lake,
my
colleague
Billy
hesterman,
that
you
all
know
he
came
up
with
this
phrase
for
HB
491.
AD
That
bill
creates
a
a
commissioner,
a
super
commissioner,
whose
job
it
is
to
come
up
with
a
plan
for
the
lake
has
funding
to
to
address
the
needs
of
the
lake
and
and
and
becomes
the
the
person
who
speaks
for
the
lake,
and
so
we
thought
that
that
was
the
person
who
should
be
called
The
Lorax
of
the
lake.
They
speak
for
the
lake.
Their
job
is
to
save
the
lake,
much
like
our
beloved
Dr
Seuss
character,
who
spoke
for
the
trees,
so.
U
Campaign
sure
it's
it's,
it's
yeah,
it's
the
least
I
could
do
yes,.
AD
Seuss's
Lorax
of
the
lake,
but
this
this
package
of
bills-
you
know
Utah
waterways,
is
intended
to
be
like
a
u-care,
but
for
for
water
again,
with
funding
to
elevate
the
cause
to
continue
to
come
up
with
ways
to
incentivize
people
to
change
their
water
uses
to
change
their
landscaping
and
those
types
of
things.
Hb
76
is
a
a
bill
that
would
require
greater
coordination
between
local
governments
and
water
districts
to
eliminate
the
silos
and
try
and
again
focus
more
water
towards
the
lake.
AD
Hb
118
is
a
continuation
of
a
bill
from
last
year
that
Robert
spenlove
ran.
He
ran
a
bill
that
was
a
commercial
property,
Turf
buyback
so
on
you
know
different
corporate
campuses.
You
see
a
lot
of
grass
that
that
nobody's
using,
and
so
it
was
an
idea.
Why
would
the
commercial
property
owners
want
to
change
this
Landscaping?
If
it's
working
for
them?
AD
It's
a
sunk
cost,
and
so
he
he
did
a
bill
that
had
I
think
three
million
dollars
to
incentivize
these
corporate
campuses
to
switch
their
Landscaping
be
more
water
efficient
and
if
the
money
was
snapped
up
really
fast,
so
118
provides
an
ongoing
five
million
appropriation
to
continue
to
try
and
in
an
ongoing
way
convince
corporate
large
campuses
to
change
their
their
their
water
usage
and
then
HB
349
is
about
water,
reuse,
projects
and
representative
Snyder.
In
this
one.
AD
He
wanted
to
be
sure
that,
as
we
clean
water
to
certain
standards,
there
might
be
an
incentive
not
to
allow
it
to
flow
to
the
lake.
A
lot
of
the
Wastewater
discharge
that
goes
into
Utah
Lake
Jordan
River
in
the
Great
Salt
Lake
is
some
of
the
the
water
that's
reaching
the
lake,
some
of
the
only
water,
that's
reaching
the
lake.
AD
But
as
we
clean
that
water
to
a
higher
standard,
you
want
to
make
sure
there
was
coordination
of
those
efforts
to
make
sure
that
we
were
considering
the
lake
and
whether
we
should
reuse
the
water
or
whether
we
should
let
it
flow
to
the
lake.
And
then
you
can
see
here
some
of
the
Appropriations
that
went
through
agriculture,
optimization
being
a
big
one.
How
do
we
incentivize
our
farmers
and
Ranchers
to
be
more
efficient,
so
that
was
a
long
answer
to
your
question
of
what
did
they?
U
AD
Yeah
yeah,
so
I
enjoy
the
list
of
things
I'm
happy
to
jump
around,
because
I
feel,
like
I'm,
probably
close
to
using
all
my
time.
What
are
the
other
things
you
would
like
to
talk
about?
I
know
that
for
the
legislative
subcommittee,
members
you've
hit
a
lot
of
these
already,
but
for
some
of
you
that
don't
serve
on
that
committee,
some
of
these
are
things
that
are
kind
of
new
or
or
interesting
that
you
haven't
heard
about
our
work
on.
AD
Okay,
if
we
go
to
slide
11,
this
is
where
we've
compiled
the
homelessness
bills
and
I
or
sorry,
the
housing
bills
and
I
do
want
to
note
for
you
on
they're
here,
there's
some
asterisks,
because
some
of
these
bills
are
going
to
require
some
work
on
behalf
of
the
city
on
your
land,
use
policy
and
you're
building
permit
plan
review,
so
they
will
require
you
to
make
changes.
AD
I,
I'm,
gonna,
actually
focus
on
those
that
did
not
pass
I.
Think
those
will
probably
be
interesting
to
you.
So
the
two
at
the
bottom
are
the
lids
and
dids
Bill.
Those
on
the
subcommittee
know
we
dealt
with
lids,
dids
and
pins.
AD
These
were
introduced
and
you
can
tell
by
just
how
high
this
number
is.
Hp
565
representative
dunnigan's
bill.
This
one
was
the
lid
bill,
so
it
would
have
granted
taxing
Authority
for
a
limited
infrastructure
District.
He
introduced
the
bill.
We
saw
the
language.
There
was
immediate
pushback.
He
did
not.
He
chose
not
to
send
it
to
committee
because
he
recognized
how
far
apart
the
parties
were
and
how
late
we
were
in
the
session,
and
so
he
voluntarily
decided
not
to
advance
this
bill.
I
will
say
this
bill
will
likely
be
back.
AD
It'll,
be
something
we
talk
about
in
the
interim.
Hopefully
we
can
influence
that
discussion
to
be
what's
wrong
with
pids,
and
what
can
we
fix
there
rather
than
forming
new
End
season
and
giving
those
Sovereign
authorities
like
taxing
authority
to
the
development
Community,
the
next
one
HSB
295,
this
one
was
the
did
Bill,
and
this
one
did
involve
both
eminent
domain
Authority
and
taxing
Authority.
AD
This
one
did
pass
a
Committee
hearing,
and
this
one
was
the
subject
of
a
full
League
call
out
several
of
you
were
there
took
assignments,
one
of
my
favorite
legislative
policy
committee
hearings
of
the
session,
where
the
league
staff
was
actively
calling
out
cities
and
saying
well,
you
take
an
assignment
to
work
with
this
legislator
or
that
legislator
and-
and
so
it
was
a
great
example
of
when
the
league
coordinates
well
by
the
time
this
bill
went
to
the
Senate
majority
caucus
for
a
discussion.
AD
Senator
McKay
described
it
to
me
that
he
showed
up
to
present
his
bill
to
the
caucus
only
to
learn.
It
was
dead
because
every
single
Senator
had
overwhelmingly
heard
from
their
local
governments
that
they
were
significantly
concerned
about
his
bill
and
about
in
particular,
eminent
domain.
I
think
gives
them
more
concern
than
than
taxing
Authority.
It
really
caught
their
attention,
so
they
died,
but
pigs
did
and
lids
we'll.
AD
And
then
short-term
rentals,
you
know
this
one
had
a
helpful
clarification
on
when
you
can
use
an
online
listing
for
code
enforcement,
and
then
it
was
paired
with
a
pilot
program.
Some
cities
and
counties
wanted
to
do
the
pilot
program.
We
kind
of
stood
back
said.
Look
if
you
want
to
do
the
pilot
program.
Great
Salt
Lake
wasn't
interested.
AD
It
had
some
challenges
in
the
pilot
program.
It
allowed
you
to
have
an
enhanced
transient
room
tax
collection
to
offset
your
compliance
burden
with
doing
the
pilot
program.
The
Tax
Commission
had
some
kind
of
technical
wonky
concerns
about
that,
and
they
just
kind
of
couldn't
get
those
resolved
in
time
and
then
it
it
just
didn't
have
enough
time
to
probably
have
that
be
resolved
before
the
time
ran
out
on
the
session.
Another
issue
that
is
probably
going
to
be
back
for
2024.
AD
any
questions.
I
can
answer
for
you
on
the
other
package
of
bills.
AD
Those
if
you
have,
if
you
have
short-term
rentals,
that
maybe
your
your
city
or
county,
did
not
have
a
short-term
rental
ordinance
and
you
wanted
a
way
to
kind
of
bring
people
into
compliance
and
have
a
regulated
program,
but
also
get
some
enhanced
tax
revenue
to
offset
what
ends
up
kind
of
being
a
high
code
enforcement
compliance
burden.
Then
you
could
enter
into
this
pilot
program.
It's
totally
voluntary.
AD
If
you
didn't
want
to
do
it,
you
didn't
have
to
I
think
the
one
concern
was
well
if
the
pilot
program
exists
for
a
handful
of
years
and
seems
to
get
good
results,
would
that
stop
being
a
pilot
program
and
become
the
program?
AD
J
AD
Feel
like
you're,
when
you
came
and
gave
comments
on
that
that
the
Utah
housing,
Corporation
Dave
damson's.
T
AD
I
feel
like
he,
he
he
was
like
yeah
I
agree
with
you.
We
should
we
should
figure
out
some
tweaks
and
so
I
think.
Yes,
there's
an
opening
to
to
see
if
we
can
modify
that
to
make
sure
that
cities
that
that
don't
have
a
lot
of
new
single-family
home
construction
because
of
the
age
of
the
city
have
an
opportunity
to
figure
out
some
other
programs.
AD
So
I
think
we
should
do
that
as
an
opportunity
to
engage
with
him
over
the
interim
period
and
see
if
we
can
think
of
of
some
way
to
incentivize
that
obviously
Senator
Adams
president
Adams
it
was,
it
was
his
bill
and
his
baby,
and
he
he
strongly
felt
had
a
personal
belief
that
it's
not
it's
not
just
getting
people
into
a
first
time
home,
but
he
wanted
to
see
a
growth
in
the
total
number
of
single-family
homes
that
existed
Statewide.
That's
why
he
wanted
incentivize
new
that.
A
J
Yes-
and
we
also
were
requesting
that
it
changed
from
450
to
something
of
the
area
of
medium
income
because
they
said
you
know
450
in
Salt,
Lake
City
is
pretty
rare,
rare
right,
because
our
medium,
our
medium
house
price,
is
higher
than
that.
So
the
guy
from
Dave
was
very
receptive
to
some
of
the
stuff,
but
just
never
got
over
the
goal
line.
It's.
AD
It's
hard
to
amend
the
Senate
president's
bill
when
they
rarely
this
President,
the
speaker
very
rarely
carry
bills.
They
each
had
one
this
year
and
you
don't
just
don't
amend
their
bills
but
I
feel
like
we
did
have
good
Traction
in
that
after.
L
W
Thank
you
for
saying
that,
because
I
was
about
to
say
a
similar
thing,
it
says
you
know:
can
we
preempt?
We
know
that
this
is
going
to
be
resurrected.
You
know,
let's
start
working
right
now
with
you
know
the
league
and
everybody
else
throughout
this
the
state
to
explain
this
tool
quote
unquote,
because
we
it's
terrible.
So
we
want
to
try
to
make
sure
that
there
is
as
many
voices
before
the
next
legislative
session.
So
that's
how
I
feel
about.
D
This
Mr
chair,
if
I,
could
add
in
this
session
we
received
some
information
that
the
county
was
starting
to
realize
the
sort
of
trickle-down
effects
of
the
point
of
the
mountain
Authority
and
the
costs
that
they
were
going
to
incur
and
not
be
paid
for,
and
so
we
are
going
to
be
reaching
out
to
them
shortly,
along
with
the
administration
to
set
up
sort
of
a
follow-up
meeting
in
the
interim
to
at
least
get
on
the
same
page
about
just
cost
of
services.
So.
AD
Ban
on
the
referendum
yeah,
so
this
comes
from
a
a
belief
that
some
legislators
have
that
they
need
to
protect
local
governments
from
the
residents
of
the
city
that
they
are
kind
of
One
Step
removed
from
from
the
their
constituents,
because
they're
up
at
the
Capitol
and
their
constituents
are
back
in
their
District.
AD
But
you
are
the
front
lines
of
the
trench
and
that
that
pressure
might
be
too
much
for
you
all
to
bear
and
that
might
make
it
hard
for
you
to
in
their
minds,
make
the
right
decision
instead
of
the
politically
expedient
decision.
So
in
order
for
yes,
yes,
so
so
nice
of
them
I've
had
I've
had
this
discussion
a
few
times
with
a
couple
of
them,
and-
and
it
feels
very
pejorative
this
this
this
viewpoint.
AD
But
this
is
this
is
their
attempt
to
say
when
a
local
government
makes
a
land
use
decision
and
it
the
bill
started
out
as
a
decision
that
passed
with
a
two-thirds
vote.
It
was
amended
at
the
end
to
be
a
unanimous
vote.
So
if
you
make
a
land
use
decision
and
it's
it's
not
unanimous-
it
could
be
the
subject
of
a
local
referendum.
If
you
make
a
land
use
decision
and
it's
unanimous,
then
there
is
no
ability
for
the
public
to
refer
that.
AD
Yeah
I
I
tend
to
agree.
I
think
this
will
be
a
challenge.
I
think
I
think
there
may
even
be
legal
challenges
at
some
point.
If
this
you
know
for
the
first
group
that
tries
this
in
any
in
any
city,
but
this
is
this
is
something
that
was
proactively
thought
of
of
the
legislature,
feeling
like
they
were
being
helpful
to
local
governments.
Okay,
thank
you.
AD
The
slide
that's
currently
displayed
I
won't
go
deeply
into
this,
but
this
is
just
you
know.
A
kind
of
a
list
of
the
various
funding
packages
aimed
at
kind
of
broadly
the
housing
space.
AD
AD
Some
of
those
elements.
Just
keep
in
mind.
Is
you
know
they've
now
defined
code
blue,
which
is
15
degrees.
It
does
include
the
wind
chill.
The
biggest
thing
I
think
in
here
is
that
counties
of
the
second
class
will
have
to
come
up
with
a
a
winter
response
task
force
and
plan.
They
have
two
years
to
do
that,
but
this
is
a
big
step
because,
as
you
are
well
aware,
Utah
County
and
Davis
County
are
counties
of
the
second
class
that
have
that
don't
have
any
hrcs
and
don't
have
a
winter
overflow.
AD
There
was,
as
as
you
guys,
are
aware,
some
pushback,
particularly
from
Utah
County,
to
to
carve
themselves
out
there
was
an
effort
put
forward
to
keep
them
in
and
to
make
these
plans
happen,
and,
quite
frankly,
this
is
a
different
process
than
you
all
went
through
last
year
in
440,
and
so
the
My
Hope
Is
that
the
cities
and
the
county
in
those
in
the
your
two
neighboring
counties
will
use
this
opportunity
to
really
come
up
with
some
great
plans,
and
it
gives
them
a
lot
of
flexibility
to
spread
it
out.
AD
Do
it
concentrated
they
have
a
lot
of
different
options
in
order.
The
other
thing
I
want
to
mention
is
that,
in
order
to
access
the
additional
pod
of
mitigation
funds,
a
city
must
enforce
camping
ordinances
unless
shelters
are
at
capacity
or
if
a
code
blue
has
been
put
in
place.
So
something
for
you
to
keep
in
mind
and
I'm
sure
something
that
Andrew
will
be
working
on
as
he
coordinates
your
efforts
and
response
and
then
there's
some
funding
at
the
bottom.
I
will
pause
there.
W
W
Chair
no,
the
question
is
more
of
a
comment
on
this
topic
and
I
I
wanted
to
thank
you
directly
for
your
involvement
and
to
make
the
Motions,
for
you
know
to
make
sure
that
the
league
stood
up
strongly
on
this
issue
and
standing
the
line
on
the
pushback
from
Utah,
County
and
and
a
little
bit
from
older
County,
the
you
know
the
the
up
North,
but
it
is
kind
of
disappointing
to
see
some
of
those
counties.
W
You
know
making
those
statements
on
some
of
those
legislators
from
from
Utah
County
to
to
repeat
that,
but
thank
you
for
your
leadership
on
that
is
really
a
shout,
and,
and
now
we
have
a
better
bill
out
there,
that
is
the
law
of
the
land
soon.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
AD
W
AD
I've
gotten
to
watch
y'all
up
close
on
this
issue
and
and
believe
that
local
government
can
solve
problems
and
having
the
flexibility
to
plan
and
solve
it
in
a
thoughtful
ways.
The
it
will
probably
yield
really
good
results
in
Davis
and
Utah
counties.
AD
U
About,
oh
sorry,
okay,.
U
Ahead:
okay,
the
Why
did
the
Transit
free
Transit
not
happen,
and
can
that
come
back
so.
AD
It
can
come
back.
The
governor
was
was
very
supportive
of
it.
I
will
tell
you.
It
is
incredibly
unpopular
in
the
two
majority
caucuses
like
incredibly
unpopular,
so
we
need
some
a
lot
of
out
working
and
Outreach
to
the
majority,
caucuses,
I
think
for
some
of
them
they
don't
have
transit
in
their
districts.
AD
There's
been
some
pushback
that
even
in
counties
that
have,
for
instance,
UTA
there's
some
cities,
for
instance
Riverton
you
know,
was
one
of
those
that
was
listed
as
like
not
having
a
bus
stop,
and
so
it's
hard
for
people
who
represent
districts.
Like
that
to
say,
we
should
spend
a
big
chunk
of
money
when
it
when
I
I,
don't
I'd
rather
spend
money
on
more
public
transit
or
East-West
connections,
or
things
like
that
versus
that
so
I
I
just
think.
AD
We've
got
a
deficit
of
of
support
there
and
we
we'd
obviously
need
UTA
to
kind
of
join
with
us
in
helping
better
tell
that
story,
and
why
that's
the
most
important
ask
in
that
space.
A
You
right
we,
our
our
next
item,
is
legislative
intents.
This
is
not
State
Legislature.
This
is
our
legislative
intents
and
responses
the
update
to
look
at
those
prior
to
the
budget
season.
We
Have
Allison
Roland,
our
Council
policy
analyst
here
to
give
that
briefing-
and
there
are
several
Department
directors
available
for
questions.
AE
AE
First
Administration
responses
and
questions,
you
may
recall,
were
briefed
at
the
work
session
last
September.
The
purpose
of
this
update
is
to
review
progress,
made
clarify
Department
responses
and
consider
any
potential
budget
impacts.
The
administration
responses
to
each
legislative
intent
are
summarized
in
the
staff
report
and
some
potential
policy
questions
are
noted
in
the
context
of
each
item.
The
full
legislative
intent
statements
are
in
attachment.
One
and
complete
Administration
responses
can
be
found
in
the
transmittal.
AE
AE
Don't
close
those
legislative
intents
I
think
that's
actually
a
record.
It's
it's
a
great
number
and
so
well.
32
totals
minus
seven.
So
there's
only
you
know,
23
more
to
go.
P
AE
So
my
question
for
you,
Mr
chair,
is
how
you'd
like
to
proceed.
We've
done
it
different
ways
in
different
years.
Sometimes
I
read
through
the
titles
and
people
can
can
ask
to
stop
when
when
they
want
more
information
or
the
council,
members
could
just
call
out
the
specific
ones
that
have
questions
on.
A
Council
members
do
we
I
mean
I,
think
we
should
go
over
all
of
them,
whether
now
we're
in
a
follow-up
briefing,
but
it
seems
like
now
is
the
time.
So
why
don't
we
just
go
through
them,
one
by
one
all.
D
Right
everybody
Mr,
chair,
like
sorry,
sorry
to
inter,
like
cdbg
I,
think
there
is
a
little
extra
time
on
April
4th.
If
you
wanted
to
continue.
A
AE
I'm,
actually
going
to
jump
to
the
council
lead
intents
first
they're
listed
in
the
staff
report
at
the
bottom.
The
first
one
is
from
fy23
it's
the
can
RDA
DED
role
Clarity,
so
the
council
has
continued
to
track
this
topic,
especially
as
related
to
funding
for
housing
and
Grant
assistance
and
as
staff.
We'll
continue
to
note
when
the
issue
note
when
their
proposals
before
the
council
that
are
related
to
this
I,
don't
know
if
you.
If
there
are
questions
or
comments,
we've.
A
J
AE
AE
Okay,
thanks
sure,
so
the
the
question
was
on
can
RDA
and
DED
role,
Clarity,
which
which
Steph
has
been
tracking,
then
there's
rotating
outside
auditing
of
each
City
Department.
The
staff
had
briefed
the
Council
on
this
in
December
2022
on
potential
topics,
and
the
next
step
is
for
the
council
to
prioritize
a
topic
to
begin
with.
AE
AE
Then
the
third
one
I
want
to
talk
about
a
little
bit.
Is
the
police
department
reporting
ordinance
from
fy21?
AE
The
council
adopted
a
body-worn
camera
ordinance,
but
it
didn't
adopt
broader
metrics
for
that
you
wish
to
have
the
police
department
report.
AE
So
now,
moving
on
to
the
attorney's
office,
there's
the
boarded
building
fee
which
the
attorney's
office
is
working
on
with
finance
and
can
and
the
they
are
preparing
a
transmittal
with
the
requested
fee
and
details
on
this
program
on
the
open
and
public
meetings
act.
The
administration's
response
is
forthcoming
on
C
the
ordinance
governing
donations
to
the
city.
This
ordinance
was
completed
and
the
changes
now
appear
on
the
codifiers
website,
so
yay
one,
then
first
one
done
and
D
is
an
FY
21
intent
on
decriminalization
review
of
city
code.
AE
The
administration's
response
is
forthcoming,
but
you
may
recall
from
previous
years
that
an
initial
review
revealed
that
more
attention
and
expertise
will
be
needed
to
complete
the
review,
including
the
involvement
of
the
prosecutor's
office.
So
the
project
will
be
continuing
in
the
coming
fiscal
year.
AE
I've
moved
it
to
the
community
and
neighborhoods
Department,
the
FY
23
intents
are
free,
fair
and
winter
months,
and
the
mayor's
office,
as
I
think
you
know,
has
been
continuing
conversations
with
UTA,
Regional
and
state
leaders
on
this
Expediting
traffic
calming
projects,
the
transportation
Division
and
the
engineering
division
have
developed
a
process
to
implement
the
livable
streets
program.
So
project
complexity
will
determine
the
engineering
divisions,
involvement
in
design
and
construction.
AE
Simple
projects
with
off-the-shelf
designs
will
be
managed
by
the
transportation
division
staff
using
on-call
City
contractors
to
speedily
install
calming
devices
and
elements
without
engineering
division,
involvement
and
then
more
complex
projects,
we'll
use
the
engineering
division.
So
that's
the
mechanism
they've
come
up
with
to
try
to
speed
these.
J
Mr
chair
on
on
that
I
might
just
it'd,
be
nice
to
have
some
type
of
update
between
the
traffic
calming
division,
zero
and
the
work
that
we've
got
going
on
for
traffic.
You
know
pedestrian
fatalities
and
how
they
combine
and
how
the
cities
and
residents
will
can
see
some
projects
in
their
area
and
have
an
update
on
on
where
the
projects
are
and
get
be
informed
and
also
be
part
of
the
solution.
J
AE
AE
Another
of
the
Canon
tents
was
for
Youth
and
Family
program.
Streamlining
and
the
administration
provided
information
in
the
staff
report
about
the
specific
programs
that
they
provide
from
FY
22.
There's
a
trips
to
Transit
expansion.
Evaluation
on
this
one,
the
administration
recommends
maintaining
the
current
service
area
for
one
to
three
more
years
to
better
determine
what
would
be
needed
for
program
expansion
to
other
areas.
Essentially,
the
program
has
been
very
successful
and
with
the
growth
of
the
program
they've
run
into
some
problems,
actually
just
meeting
demand
so
they're
they're
working
on
that
sorry.
D
Just
adding
a
brief
piece
of
context
that
may
come
up
in
the
annual
budget
is
that
the
current
Year's
budget
ran
out
I
think
earlier
than
was
anticipated
in
part
because
of
the
success
so
I
think
even
meeting
the
current
scope
of
the
program
may
need
a
budget
adjustment
in
the
coming
year.
So
I
think
that
there's
ongoing
conversations
about
that
in
their
budget
development
process.
AE
Session
FY
21
intent
remaining
in
can
is
to
transfer
Housing
Trust
development
loans
and
payments
to
RDA
and
the
RDA.
The
housing
stability,
Division
and
the
attorney's
office
are
preparing
code
modifications
for
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
Advisory
board.
So
this
is
still
ongoing,
but
it's
it's
reaching
its
end.
A
So
I
just
did
a
question
on
process.
We
will
continue
going
through
these.
Should
we,
the
ones
that
are
not
completed,
do
we
would
it
be
if
council
members
want
to
remove
any
of
them
or
change
any
of
them.
Is
that
what
is
that
appropriate
for
us
to
discuss
at
this
briefing
or.
A
Want
I
guess:
I'll
just
leave
it
to
individual
council
members,
if
there's
any
that
you
feel
are
no
longer
relevant
or
that
you
think
we
should
close
and
move
on
to
other
things
that
we
kind
of
individually
look
at
the
list
and
bring
that
up
to
each
other
and
in
the
next
work
session
as
well.
Does
that
sound
all
right,
rather
than
start
pulling
all
of
them
individually
right?
Let's
just
if
it.
If
nobody
brings
it
up,
we
will
assume
that
we
would
like
to
keep
it
and.
A
Q
I
think
thank
you
for
having
this
now,
because
I
think
this
is
helpful
as
I
think
about
budgeting
stuff,
and
so
yes,
I
agree
with
what
you're
saying
but
I
think
for
me.
It
will
just
also
saying,
as
I'm
as
we
come
to
budget.
A
Q
D
And
then,
from
a
staff
perspective,
we
also
plan
to
have
any
that
are
current,
any
that
are
continue
to
be
open
included
in
our
staff
reports
for
the
relevant
departments
and
having
a
full
legislative
intent
briefing
during
the
budget
deliberation
so
that
there's
you
know
you
have
the
real-time
context
of
the
annual
budget,
while
you're
thinking
about
it.
Thank.
O
D
So
so
we
could
bring
it
back
at
any
time.
The
the
other.
The
other
complicating
factor
is
that
there
were
a
couple
of
items
on
that
list
that
weren't
necessarily
Department
specific,
but
that
were
like
youth,
specific,
so
auditing,
all
of
the
city's
loan
programs,
which
might
touch
multiple
departments,
so
staff
is
ready
to
have
that
conversation
at
any
time.
It
was
more
kind
of
waiting
to
see
when
the
council
had
available
agenda
time
to
discuss
it
so,
but
we
can
work
with
the
chair
on
one
makes
sense
to
bring
that
back.
D
A
A
E
E
A
A
A
I
believe
we
got
most
of
it.
So,
okay,
thank
you.
We
have
Debbie
Lyon
from
the
director
of
the
sustainability
department
and
Christopher
Thomas.
Do
you
have
an
introduction
or
a
slide?
Decker
how's
this
going.
P
V
Thank
you,
Debbie
and
thank
you
Mr
chair,
thank
you,
council
members
for
the
opportunity
to
to
present
and
and
Sam
for,
for
all
the
collaboration
and
coordination
and,
of
course,
councilmember
Dugan,
who
also
serves
as
chair
of
the
community
renewable
energy
agency,
I'm,
not
sure
who's
controlling
the
slides.
But
would
you
please
advance
to
the
next
slide
great
so
today,
I'm
hoping
to
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
community
renewable
energy
agency.
V
I
spoke
to
you
all
I
believe
in
December,
with
an
update
so
I'm
back
to
provide
another
update
and
then
also
talk
in
particular
about
the
utility
agreement,
which
is
really
the
next
step
on
the
path
next
slide.
Please
so,
as
I
said,
I'll
provide
an
update
on
the
community
renewable
energy
agency.
V
Talk
to
you
about
the
utility
agreement
now,
unfortunately,
well
I
guess
I'll
get
to
that
on
the
next
slide,
and
then
please
do
note
that
we
we're
sort
of
messy
in
our
in
our
terms
that
we
use
to
talk
about
the
agency.
Sometimes
we'll
call
it
Community
renewable
energy
agency,
sometimes
Korea.
Our
kind
of
short
name
is
Utah
100
communities,
and
we
may
also
call
it
the
Utah
100
program
because
it's
just
nicer
to
say
than
the
community
renewable
energy
program
every
time
next
slide.
Please.
V
So
with
the
utility
agreement,
when
I
was
here
in
I,
think
it
was
December
or
November.
I
was
hoping
at
that
time
that
during
the
month
of
March,
we
could
come
and
bring
final
language
of
the
utility
agreement
to
talk
about.
Unfortunately,
we
are
not
there
yet
we
do
not
have
final
language.
Yet
we
have
drafts
going
back
and
forth
between
the
agencies
outside
Council
and
Rocky
Mountain
Powers
Council
we've
been
waiting
now
for
I
would
say
over
a
month.
Next.
J
V
Oh,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councilmember
we've
been
waiting
for
over
a
month
at
this
point
for
the
next
round
of
edits,
but
we've
been
promised
those
by
the
end
of
this
week,
so
we're
not
as
far
along
as
we
would
like
to
be.
However,
here's
what
we
do
know
about
the
utility
agreement.
It
is
the
next
step
on
the
path
to
remain
eligible
for
the
community
renewable
energy
program.
V
That's
true
for
Salt
Lake,
City
and
as
well
as
the
other
17
member
communities
and
each
participating
Community
must
be
prepared
to
sign
that
agreement
in
order
to
continue
on
to
the
next
stage,
which
is
the
program
application,
each
participating
communities
will
need
to
sign
separately
and
nothing
in
the
draft
utility
agreement
has
changed
relative
to
what
we've
talked
about
previously
with
the
council
in
terms
of
how
we
envision
the
program
unfolding
and
what
needs
to
be
in
the
utility
agreement
next
slide.
Please.
V
Here's
a
version
of
the
same
checklist,
I
showed
the
council
previously
The
Next
Step,
as
I
said,
is,
is
to
sign
the
utility
agreement
that
will
maintain
Salt
Lake
City's
eligibility
for
the
program,
as
required
by
state
law,
and
again
it
is
just
one
agreement.
It's
going
to
be
literally
one
agreement
with
signature
blocks
for
Rocky
Mountain
Power
in
all
18
communities.
V
Next
slide.
Please.
V
V
It
states
that
communities
are
obligated
to
cover
the
cost
of
Consultants
hired
by
two
state
agencies:
that's
the
Utah
office
of
consumer
services
and
the
division
of
Public
Utilities.
Thankfully,
we
have
already
budgeted
for
these
costs,
so
the
agency
has
collected
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
member
participating,
Community
payments.
V
And
that
will
cover
this
cost,
so
there's
no
new
cost
involved
here.
Third
thing
is
that
it
states
that
communities
will
be
obligated
to
cover
the
cost
of
mailing
two
notices
to
all
Rocky
Mountain
Power
customers
in
their
respective
boundaries,
but
that
payment
isn't
actually
made
until
much
later
in
the
process.
If
and
when
the
council
would
decide
to
adopt
the
final
ordinance.
So
it's
basically
a
promise
to
pay,
because
we're
required
to
make
that
promise
under
the
state
law,
but
then
that
the
payment
doesn't
actually
become
owing
until
later.
V
So
we'd
like
to
get
the
program
rate
program
approved
first
get
the
rates
established,
and
then
we
can
always
later
designate
some
of
these
coal
or
gas
plants
to
pay
down
faster
if
we
choose
to
and
if,
if
the
rates
can
support
it,
so
that's
what
it
what
it
must
do.
We
also
know
the
utility
agreement
won't
do
some
of
the
things
in
the
the
right
hand,
column
in
the
red
font.
V
A
V
V
We
have
it
identified
a
few
additional
elements
that
we
feel
like
we
need
to
include
in
the
utility
agreement,
so
it
won't
just
be
the
basics.
There
will
be
some
other
stuff,
but,
as
I
mentioned,
the
utility
agreement
is
still
in
draft
form,
so
it's
going
back
and
forth
between
Attorneys
at
this
point,
if
the
council
would
like
to
talk
about
the
draft,
we
would
need
to
do
that
in
closed
session,
which
is
on
the
agenda
later.
V
We
will
be
sharing
subsequent
drafts
of
the
utility
agreement
with
our
own
City
attorney's
office.
Sarah
Montoya
has
been
involved
in
those
discussions
since
the
beginning
next
slide.
Please.
V
V
We
still
have
some
work
to
do
in
terms
of
determining
how
our
program
would
acquire
new,
renewable
energy
resources,
how
they'll
be
valued
and
what
this
will
ultimately
mean
for
customer
rates
next
slide.
Please.
V
Basically,
the
way
our
program
would
work
primarily
is
by
acquiring
new
utility
scale,
renewable
energy
resources
and
plugging
them
in
to
the
Rocky
Mountain
power
grid,
and
what
that
will
have
the
effect
of
is
reducing
our
need
to
run
the
coal
and
gas
plants,
and
so
it
will
play
a
really
important
role
in
reducing
our
pollution.
Next
slide.
Please.
V
Our
program
will
likely
supplement
the
renewable
energy
that
we're
already
paying
for
as
part
of
our
Rocky
Mountain
Power
bills
by
2030,
Rocky
Mountain
Power
says
that
it
expects
around
58
percent
of
the
generation
going
onto
our
grid
to
be
come
from
renewable
resources.
So
our
program
on
behalf
of
the
participating
customers
would
look
to
supplement
that
remaining
42
percent
with
new
renewable
energy
resources
like
solar
farms
and
wind
farms.
Next
slide,
please.
V
We
would
see
2.54
million
megawatt
hours
of
renewable
energy
generation
that
would
help
us
meet
our
net
100
renewable
electricity
goal
about
1.5
million
megawatt
hours
would
likely
come
from
the
standard
offer
renewable
resources
we're
already
going
to
be
paying
for
through
our
bill,
an
additional
million
megawatt
hours
would
come
from
new
program
assigned
renewable
energy
resources,
and
that
would
be
about
the
equivalent
of
two
large
solar
farms
and
a
couple
large
wind
farms.
V
What
will
the
program
cost
be?
We
expect
it
currently
given
the
best
information
we
have
to
be
between
two
and
seven
dollars
for
the
typical
household
averaged
over
the
the
year,
and
this
is
in
part
based
on
the
fact
that
the
governance
agreement
that
created
the
community
renewable
energy
agency
makes
it
really
difficult
to
acquire
resources.
If
it's
going
to
make
program
rates,
10
percent
higher
than
standard
offer
rates
and,
of
course
the
actual
costs
will
depend
upon
how
we
agreed
to
Value
the
resources
that's
still
being
finalized.
V
In
discussions
with
Rocky,
Mountain,
Power
and
state
regulators,
we
do
expect
the
program
will
cost
a
little
extra
for
people
to
participate
in,
and
that's
because
not
only
will
we
be
paying
for
these
new
resources,
we're
also
required
under
the
state
law,
to
pay
our
share
of
the
ongoing
costs
of
the
rest
of
the
Rocky
Mountain
power
electricity
system.
So
we
don't
get
to
stop
paying
for
our
old
cell
phone
plan.
Just
because
we
have
a
new
cell
phone
plan.
V
We
have
to
pay
out
the
old
one
and
pay
for
the
new
one,
but
we
do
expect
this
to
be
an
affordable
cost.
Next
slide.
Please.
V
What
does
this
mean
for
lower
income
households
so
in
late
2022,
the
agency
board
voted
to
adopt
two
programmatic
strategies
for
low-income
assistance,
and
these
will
be
incorporated
into
the
program
itself.
These
aren't
sort
of
like
added
on
afterwards
they're
part
of
the
program,
so
the
first
is
offering
an
enhanced
monthly
bill
credit.
This
would
be
offered
in
addition
to
the
existing
monthly
bill
assistance
credit
that
Rocky
Mountain
Power
offers.
It
can
be
up
to
seven
dollars
per
month
for
eligible
low-income
customers
who
participate
in
the
program.
V
The
actual
amount
will
be
determined
by
how
much
the
program
will
cost
the
average
household.
The
second
programmatic
strategy
is
a
termination
fee
waiver.
So,
after
a
certain
point,
there
may
be
a
termination
fee
required
to
exit
the
program.
That's
so
that
there
will
be
long-term
stability
in
how
who
is
participating
in
the
program
and
how
much
energy
it
needs
to
deliver.
It
will
be
a
modest
termination
fee,
but
for
qualifying
lower
income.
V
Households
that
termination
fee
will
be
waived
because
we
didn't
want
an
impediment
for
lower
income
households
who
could
really
use
that
extra
money
instead
to
be
able
to
leave
the
program
next
slide.
Please
one
of
the
other
big
elements
that
we
have
to
solve
for
is
being
able
to
guarantee
resource
repayment.
These
are
long-term
contracts
could
be
15
years
could
be
30
years.
You
know
multi
tens
of
millions
of
dollars.
V
We
think
that
we're
well
we're
intending
to
design
the
program
in
such
a
way
to
minimize
the
risks
that
people
would
leave
the
program.
That's
through
having
a
low
cost.
We
think
having
a
low
cost
to
participate,
means
they'll,
be
high
participation,
we're
intending
to
build
gradually
to
meet
the
goal
without
overshooting
having
this
moderate
exit
fee
to
encourage
stable
participation
and
then,
ultimately,
we
think
we're
going
to
need
something
that
we're
calling
the
backstop
fund
or
a
reserve
fund
that
would
either
be
paid
through
customer
prepayments
or
potentially
through
some
grant
funding.
V
J
We,
this
is
also
part
of
the
whole
application
process
to
the
Public
Service
Commission,
for
the
looking
for
the
approval
and
that
process
is
still
work
on
going
with
Rocky
Mountain
Power
as
we
negotiate
how
we
procure
resources,
the
rates
that
they
charge
and
a
few
other
items
that
go
in
there,
the
boundaries
and
and
who
is
actually
the
customer
base
as
far
as
in
different
districts
is
because
we
have
fed
Lions,
State
lands
and
different
jurisdictions.
J
So
this
keeps
us
in
the
game
as
far
as
the
application
process,
and
then
after
that
can
take
six
months,
and
then
we
get
90
days
after
that
approval
for
us
to
assess
the
program
itself
and
all
18
communities
can
then
assess
the
program
at
that
point.
So
it's
an
ongoing
effort,
and
at
this
point
it's
an
administrative
signature
I
think
at
that
point,
but
we
can
always.
We
can't
really
review
it,
as
we
said,
because
it's
in
in
draft
form.
So,
that's
why
it's
in
closed
session.
J
A
Thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you
for
your
time,
we're
going
to
move
on
to
item
number
nine,
which
is
a
budget
amendment
follow-up
briefing
on
budget
number,
five
for
fiscal
year,
2022
through
2023.
If
you'll
remember,
council
members,
we
left
this
open
for
particularly
one
item
that
councilmember
Pui
was
had
added
in
and
since
he
wasn't
here
at
our
last
briefing,
we
wanted
to
bring
this
back
to
give
him
time
to
explain
that
one
additional
item.
W
Yes,
Mr
chair.
Thank
you
for
the
time
I.
This
is
a
an
issue
that
is
dear
to
me
because
of
you
know
my
life
history
with
horror.
Things
happen
in
other
countries,
but
this
they
happen
here
too,
and
this
Council
has
been
looking
into
protecting
the
building
protecting
the
employees.
W
We
have
been
quite
a
bit
making
quite
a
bit
of
a
progress
on
that
and
I
would
like
to
suggest
additional
funding
to
protect
the
block,
Washington
Square
and
to
prevent
vehicles
from
driving
into
the
block
and
and
authorized
Vehicles.
W
If
that's
something
that
you
guys
will
be
supportive
of
doing
this
budget
amendment,
the
the
amount
of
money
ranges
from
one
to
three
million
dollars
and
it
will
impart
to
put
what
is
the
word
bolsters
or
bollards
folders
Boulders
around
the
block
to
prevent
vehicles
and
to
CR
to
ask
for
more
security
measures
around
the
building.
So
I
don't
know
if,
if
anybody
has
questions
or
thoughts
about
this.
A
I
mean
if
it
goes
into
this
budget
amendment
is
the
proposal
one
or
three
million
or
somewhere
in
between
I
guess
we
have
to
that's
what
we
have
to.
It
needs
to
be
specified.
S
Right
yeah,
we
definitely
need
a
specific
amount.
The
motion
sheet
currently
has
one
million
dollars.
We
can,
of
course,
change
that
the
funding
would
go
into
a
holding
account,
so
it's
not
like
it'd
be
sitting
there
for
someone
to
spend
and
it
would
go
into
the
CIP
fund.
So,
just
like
all
CIP
projects,
the
fund
does
not
lapse
to
fund
balance
at
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year,
so
it
would
still
be.
There
come
July
1st
yeah.
W
And
let
me
add
this
I'm,
you
know
I'm
willing
to
you
know.
I
would
like
to
propose
for
one
million
this
time
around
I.
Let
me
say
this
when
this
is
needed
and
when
we
think
about
it,
it's
too
late,
it's
always
too
late
and
as
almost
a
victim
of
terrorist
attack
when
I
was
a
kid.
W
A
Counselor,
thank
you.
I
will
I
I
support
this
because
I
I
think,
as
a
lot
has
been
made
out
of
our
the
diversity
on
our
Council
and
I.
Think
that
makes
us
a
Target
and
I
think
we've
all
not
all,
maybe
not
all,
but
a
lot
of
us
have
experienced
direct
personal
threats.
So
I
am
very
supportive
of
this.
O
I
would
like
to
know
exactly
what
we're
going
to
do
like
the
exact
amount
and
how
much
wood
bollards
cost.
O
If
you
know,
if
we
put
in
bollards
around
the
city
and
county
building,
will
cost
a
million
dollars
or
it'll
cost
less
that
way.
If
we
have
some
leftover
we
can
instead
of
going
to
cap,
we
can
use
it
for
some
other
pressing
needs
as
well
as
as
we
have
in
the
next
budget
season.
I.
D
I'll
just
take
a
crack
at
the
answer
and
council
member
pulley
feel
free
to
jump
in
I.
Think
the
intention
is
to
set
this
money
aside
and
then
begin
working
with
the
administration
on
finalizing
some
of
those
costs.
D
It
is
very
likely
that
it
won't
cost
a
full
million,
but
I
I,
guess
I
hesitate
to
just
say
that
right
and
so
I
think
with
healthy,
with
fund
balance
being
as
healthy
as
it
is
currently
parking
that
money
essentially
buys
you
flexibility
for
the
future
to
for
so
that
we
can
work
with
the
administration
to
figure
out.
Maybe
maybe
bollards
aren't
the
only
Improvement
that
makes
sense
with
that
money.
Maybe
the
police
department
has
other
recommendations,
but
the
council
could
certainly
ask
for
a
review
of
that
of
The
Proposal.
U
I'm
also
supportive
and
I.
Don't
really
have
an
objection
to
the
amount
I
just
would
like
to
know
from
a
security
point
of
view.
Is
that
the
best
use
of
that
amount
of
money,
or
would
it
be
better
to
put
some
of
those
in
and
then
put
other
money
towards
something
else?
I,
just
I
I'm,
not
an
expert
in
this
and
I.
Don't
know
what
conversations
council
member
please
had.
Maybe
you've
already
talked
about
this,
and
that
is
the
best
use
of
the
funds.
W
And
then
we'll
be
willing
to
keep
the
the
intent
very
loose
to
have
the
administration
tell
us
what
they
can
do
with
this
money
and
what
is
the
pro
the
best
priority
to
use
this
money
as
far
as
security?
It
is
my
objective
that
we
secure
the
building
and
we
secure
the
block
from
vehicles
and
other
you
know,
unauthorized.
W
D
An
internal
committee
that
they've
included
the
Council
on
of
administrative
staff,
including
the
police
department,
that
has
made
some
of
the
recommendations
for
some
of
the
security
upgrades
we
already
see
and
I
think
that
it
would
be
very
reasonable
to
ask
them
to
review
this
funding
and
come
back
to
the
council
with
recommendations.
I,
don't
know
if
the
the
language
should
be
that
loose,
but
if
you're,
if
that's
what
the
council.
A
S
Two
quick
things:
an
update
from
the
last
briefing
item.
I2
is
the
technology
upgrades
to
facilitate
a
hybrid
meeting.
We've
been
working
to
refine
the
cost
estimates,
and
so
it
currently
has
a
total
of
fifty
five
thousand
dollars.
That's
slightly
more
than
you
heard
at
the
last
briefing,
the
increase
is
from
funding
in
Enterprise
wide,
so
all
departments
could
use
it
license
to
use
zoom.
The
city
is
moving
away
from
WebEx,
and
so
this
would
speed
that
up.
W
My
question
Mr,
chair,
I,
it
I,
like
the
idea
of
the
the
older
departments,
have
the
ability
to
use
this,
but
can
we
make
sure
that
the
council
has
priority
too?
Like
you
know,
I,
don't
know
how
but
like
if
we
are
going
to
use
it.
There
is
some
sort
of
scheduling
service,
because
you
know
we.
This
is
something
that's
in
part.
W
It
started
conversations
here
and
moving
the
the
West
having
the
West
Side
council
meeting
showed
us
that
we
needed
to
improve
how
we
have
meetings
outside
this
building
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
have
a
first
crack
out
of
it.
If
we
need
to
use
it,
I
don't
want
to
be
greedy
about
it,
but
I
want
these
Council
to
have
the
tools
first
off.
If
we
need
to
go
use
them.
S
Okay,
the
other
thing
Mr
chair
is
I,
wanted
to
highlight
the
motion
sheet.
There
are
three
separate
motions
number
one
number
two
and
number
three.
The
first
motion
is
to
adopt
most
of
the
remaining
items.
Motion
two
is
for
item
A10,
additional
funding
to
facilitate
property
acquisition.
Council
member
mono
can
be
recused
from
that
and
then
motion
three
is
for
item
I4,
the
Lockhart
alley
reconstruction,
so
I
wanted
to
highlight.
There
are
three
separate
motions.
You
would
need
to
do
all
three
if
you
wanted
to
adopt
all
of
those
items.
L
S
A
S
S
A
Tonight
you.
S
D
S
That's
weird:
you
can
do
it.
We
typically
try
not
to
leave
public
hearings.
Open
indefinitely
sounds.
A
A
Ordinance
item
number
10
is
an
ordinance,
a
follow-up
for
the
accessory
dwelling
unit,
Adu
text
Amendment.
A
X
X
A
You
Brian
council
members,
I
wanted
I,
don't
have
like
I'm,
not
trying
to
convince
any
one
of
things
in
this,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
it
occurred
to
me
when
I
spoke
with
councilmember
Wharton
this
weekend,
that
people
might
be
confused
as
to
why
I
care
so
deeply
about
this
issue.
I.
A
This
issue
has
been
something
that
the
city's
been
discussing
since
2011
I
sent
a
letter
on
my
company
letterhead
to
Michael
Malloy
in
2016.,
where
I
talked
about
how
important
the
adus
would
be.
I
also
sent
a
letter
to
then
council
member
Aaron
Mendenhall
the
following
year.
So
this
is
something
that
I've
been
interested
in
and
trying
to
advocate
for
since,
before
any
of
us
were
on
the
council
and
that
I
reread
those
this
weekend
and
a
lot
of
the
things
that
I
wrote
in
those
original
letters
are
still
things
we're
discussing
today.
A
A
Proposal
motion
two
I
I'm
hopeful
that
we
that
I
can
get
council
member
support
for
motion
to
which
is
a
small
difference,
but
I
think
an
important
one.
It
would
change
the
owner
occupancy
requirement
to
apply
only
to
single-family
homes
in
in
Foothills,
residential
R1
sr1
and
our
sr1a
zones.
Those
are
the
generally
low
density
single
family
intended
for
single-family
residential
zones.
A
So
I'm
hopeful
that
that
I
can
get
support
for
motion
number
two,
which
is
a
knot,
would
not
apply
to
the
foot
again.
The
Foothills
residential
sr1,
sr1a
and
R1
zones.
Q
Q
Thank
you,
Darren,
for
what
I
think
is
what
I,
what
I
feel
is
a
very
valid
attempt
at
a
compromise
and
I
truly
appreciate
that,
and
we've
had
way
too
many
discussions,
both
right
here
and
just
with
each
other
and
have
voiced
all
of
the
different
concerns
and
where
we're
at
and
as
we
talked
over
the
weekend
and
and
presented
this
and
we
kind
of
hashed
out
some
of
those
different
things
that
we
talked
about.
I
I
still
am
sitting
with
this
and
I'm
still
here.
Q
Just
sort
of
processing
it
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
think
I
appreciate,
given
the
emotions
that
we
have
all
felt
and
that
have
been
felt
at
this
table
over
this
for
the
last
two
Tuesdays,
where
I
think
many
of
us
just
wanted
to
quit
the
council
in
general
that
this
really
is
a
I
appreciate
the
very
Valiant
and
and
comprehensive
compromise
that
you're
proposing
here
it
that
and
being
able
to
have
very
good
non-emotional
logical
conversations
with
many
of
our
council
members.
Q
A
You
councilman
Fowler
Jennifer
Bruno,
reminded
me
that
for
for
the
Public's
sake,
I
think
council
members
knows
we
have
a
public
hearing
tonight
on
this
issue.
We
are
not
planning
to
take
action.
Today
we
were
planning
to
take
action
in
on
April
4th,
so
you
have
a
little
more
time
to
sit
with
the
issue.
Councilmember
Fowler.
A
O
You
I
I,
appreciate
there
what
Amy
said
and
also
you're
trying
to
compromise
I
think
that's
something
that
a
lot
of
us
wanted
to
do
from
the
beginning
and
we
were
able
to
accomplish
and
I
would
like
things
for
the
timeline
too,
so
that
I
could
Ponder
on
this
and
talk
to
my
constituency
and
hear
the
comments
tonight
and
you
know
and
make
a
decision
based
on.
O
You
know
on
what
we
hear
and
and
what
we
think
it's
the
right
thing,
but
I
I
appreciate
you
bringing
that
point
that
was
like
that
William
really
discuss
on
early
on,
but
it's
always
been
there
and
we
were
so
focused
on
the
other
three
things
that
we
kind
of
forgot
about
that
option.
So
thank
you
and
I
will
think
about
it.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
U
U
My
questions
and
I
hope
that
we'll
hear
from
the
public
tonight
in
our
in
their
comments
and
about
this
and
I
would
like
to
hear
from
our
planning
staff
what
their
thoughts
are
and
I
would
like
to
know.
So
this
would
be
allowed
in
every
Zone
every
zoning
area,
except
for
sr1,
sr1a,
East
Foothills
bench,
and
what.
U
U
And
if
we
could,
it
might
be
helpful
to
see
a
map
of
something
like
that,
so
I
can
like
just
visually.
That
would
help
me
the
thing.
One
thing
that
I
would
like
to
hear
is
when
we
went
through
the
RMF
30
discussion
we
heard
from
we
made
adjustments
because
we
heard
from
community
members
that
we
might
unintentionally
be
incentivizing
the
destruction
of
naturally
for
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing
and
also
some
of
the
houses
that
might
be
historic
houses,
but
aren't
in
a
local,
historic
district.
U
So
there
they
wouldn't
be
protected
and
I
think
the
changes
that
we
made
in
that
discussion.
Based
on
the
resident
feedback,
we
actually
provided
an
incentive
to
maintain
those
types
of
homes
so
that
they
they
wouldn't
be
so
that
they
could
continue
to
provide
naturally
occurring,
affordable
housing
and
those
that
have
you
know,
a
unique
historic
character
that
that
we
could
still
add
to
density
without
losing
those
homes.
That
I
think
are
important
to
a
lot
of
residents
and
and
important
to
the
the
history
of
our
city.
U
So
I
would
like
to
hear
from
planning
staff
and
from
the
community
what
their
thoughts
are.
I,
don't
want
to
inadvertently
incentivize
houses
to
be
destroyed.
That
could
be
naturally
occurring
and
then
any
other.
You
know
what
are
the
other
since
I.
Don't
do
this
for
a
living
and
you
do
and
you
do
what
what
are
other
possible
unintended
consequences
that
I
might
not
think
through,
or
it
might
not
be
obvious
to
me
as
someone
that
doesn't
doesn't
work
in
this
in.
L
My
day,
I've
been
here
with
you,
because
my
comments
were
along
the
same
lines:
I'm
particularly
interested
in
how
this
would
impact
the
TSA
Zone,
it's
most
predominantly
in
council
member,
please
District
around
the
Rancho
Market
area.
We're
currently
the
only
option
to
take
advantage
of
TSA
zoning
is
to
buy
a
house,
knock
it
down
and
put
up
and
we've
how
many,
how
many
proposals
have
we
seen
for
micro
units,
no
parking
and
so
I'm
curious?
U
A
B
W
Want
Mr,
chair,
yeah,
so
I
I
mean
I,
think
that
this
is
obviously
I've
been
very
vocal
about
my
support
for
removing
you
know,
barriers
to
housing
in
the
city
and
I
still
see
it
as
that
and
I
think
these
are
barriers
for
housing,
which
is
the
one
of
the
most
the
biggest
problems
that
we
have
and
we
are
talking
and
by
not
removing
them,
but
I
also
want
to
just
summarize
something
that
I
think
is.
It
was
brought
up
a
couple
times.
W
W
I,
don't
I
appreciate
that
saying
that
that
we
were
not
negotiating
before,
because
everything
that
we
were
trying
to
do
throughout
was
to
actually
negotiate
and
meet
in
the
middle.
Also,
we
not
only
represent
those
members
of
the
community
councils.
We
represent
everybody
and
the
renters
and
the
community
councils
are
not
not
the
majority
of
them
and
we
need
to
remember
the
majority
of
our
districts,
especially
of
mine,
a
majority
of
our
districts
and
all
of
us
are
renters.
W
The
majority
of
the
city
are,
and
we
need
to
think
about
those
two
and
they
renters
overwhelming
don't
have
time
to
show
up
to
community
councils.
You
know
have
time
to
show
up
to
City
councils.
They
don't
have
time
to
to
voice
their
concerns
again.
Your
concerns
with
adus
are
very
valid
and
I
think
I
related
to
many
of
them
and
I'm
trying
to
find
ways
to
address
those.
But
if
we
don't
agree,
I
hope
that
we
agree
ultimately
a
creating
mechanism
to
gather
the
data.
W
That
is
that,
so
we
can
all
learn
more
about
what,
if
this,
if,
if
those
rumors
are
true
because
they
are
not
nationally
true
and
I,
just
came
back
from
from
meetings
Across,
the
Nation
on
this
that
are
not
true
in
the
nation
and
they're
called
anti-hauser
rumors.
There
are
no
Based
on
data.
A
Q
Certainly
was
not
trained
to
say
that
you
weren't,
negotiating
I
was
simply
trying
to
say
that
this
was
a
compromise.
I
could
understand.
Second,
as
the
only
renter
on
the
council.
I
think
I
know
and
do
try
to
look
at
and
is
why
I
feel
so
strongly
about.
Some
of
the
things
I
feel
is
because
I
am
the
only
renter
on
this
Council
so
and
do
protect
and
look
at
it
from
that
perspective.
So
just
heard
that
there
was
one
other
thing
to
bring
up
real,
quick.
Z
Q
Had
to
do
with
the
compliance
piece
of
this
that
we
talked
about
at
some
point,
my
understanding
is
that,
within
the
ordinance
we
still
have,
the
as
written
proposed
is
a
restrictive
covenant.
Q
One
of
the
things
we
talked
about
before
you
know,
one
of
the
87th
times
that
we've
had
an
Adu
discussion
was
adding
attorneys
fees
and
sort
of
that
like
a
neighbor,
could
maybe
call
a
neighbor
and
and
I.
Don't
know
that
that
is
in
the
audience.
Ordinance
now
I
would
support
adding
some
attorneys
fees
language
in
there
again,
I
think
that
kind
of,
as
we
talked
about
before
there
was
lots
of
different
Pros
to
that
that
if
you're
running
it
as
a
short,
it's
a
way
for
us
to
have
complaints
with
short-term.
AF
Great
question
council
members,
so
what
this
would
do
in
the
restrictive
covenant
would
allow
a
neighbor
the
right
of
enforcement
and
that
right
of
enforcement
is
exactly,
as
you
mentioned,
hiring
an
attorney
and
going
to
court
to
enforce
the
Restriction.
That
says,
you
can't
use
this
as
a
short-term
rental.
If
that
neighbor
prevails,
the
person
operating
the
short-term
rental
would
be
required
to
pay
that
person's
attorney's
fees.
So
it's
a
it's
a
a
strong
motivator
to
not
operate
an
Adu
as
or
any
of
the
residences
on
the
property
as
a
short-term
rental
and.
A
L
Q
Sorry
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
there,
since
we're
not
voting
tonight,
but
also,
if
public
is
listening
and
wanted
to
comment
on
that
part
of
it,
because
I
would
really
support
that,
especially
as
we've
talked
a
lot
about
compliance
and
and
kind
of
how
we're
short
on
compliance
and
and
things.
But
maybe
we
can
it's
one
of
those
things
to
ponder
as.
L
We
wait
for
the
next
as
we
take
action
and
just
to
clarify
in
case
of
the
neighbor
who
likes
to
just
complain.
It
would
only
be
on
substantiated
claims
if
we
have
a
neighbor
who's,
just
principally
opposed
to
an
Adu
and
is
creating
a
nuisance
complaint.
That
person
would
still
be
responsible
for
their
own
fees.
If
a
court
of
law
found
that
they
had
abused
the
system
correct.
Q
D
You
sorry,
based
on
the
just
to
kind
of
expedite
things,
could
based
on
all
the
nodding
heads
kind
of
formally
ask
the
attorney's
office
to
put
together
some
language
that
we
could
put
in
the
ordinance
memorializing
that,
because
I
think
we
have
a
version
now.
That
does
not
reflect
that.
So
maybe
between
now
and
the
fourth
we
can
work
on
that.
AF
L
They
also
can
I
also
speak
to
one
more
thing.
I
think
the
review
should
be
in
five
years.
The
last
time
since
the
last
time
you
all
visited
this.
The
world
has
turned
upside
down,
making
almost
every
data
that
we
have
from
the
last
two
years,
unusable
I.
Think
we
have
enough
of
an
infrastructure
here.
That
puts
us
in
a
good
place,
but
I
would
actually
like
I
would
like
the
commitment,
as
council
member
Pui
called
for
to
data
collection
that
is
specified
and
that
will
be
relevant
and
I
would
like
a
data
set.
L
That
is
large
enough
for
us
to
actually
make
some
decisions,
and
we
I
mean
I.
Think
most
of
us
in
our
gut
know
that
the
primary
barrier
here
is
financial
and
it'll.
Take
us
a
while
to
implement
Financial
incentives,
so
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
control
for
all
of
those
other
factors
that
might
be
disincentivizing
or
making
it
impossible
and
have
a
data
set.
That's
actually
usable.
A
Council
members,
any
other
comments
all
right.
Thank
you.
Staff
thanks
everybody
and
excited
to
hear
what
the
public
has
to
say
tonight.
U
It
did,
it
did
didn't
it
so
yeah.
Are
there
any
what
so
I
talked
about
the
process
we
went
through
with
RMF
30,
naturally
occurring
affordable,
housing,
potentially
historic
homes.
Things
like
that,
can
you
and
then
I
just
said?
Are
there
any
other
possible
like
unintended
consequences
where
we
might
be
inadvertently
incentivizing,
something
that
is
not
in
line
with
the
city's
housing
goals?.
U
M
Gonna,
no,
that's!
That's
not
what
I'm
saying
I'm
saying
that
that
people
who
are
going
to
be
building
the
adus
by
demolishing
a
an
existing
building
and
replacing
with
something
new
are
probably
more
likely
going
to
have
the
capital
to
do
that,
regardless
of
what
our
process
is
so
I,
don't
think
that
there's
going
to
be
much
impact
from
that,
it's
certainly
possible
that
we'll
see
an
uptick
in
in
demolitions,
but
I
think
we're
seeing
that
with
single-family
homes
in
general
over
the
last
several
years.
So
so.
U
U
U
It's
what
I'm
hearing
is
that,
if
it's
no
net
difference
in
whether
someone's
going
to
demolish
a
single
family
home,
that's
not
in
the
zones
that
we've
discussed
and
build
an
Adu
instead,
if
we're
not
encouraging
or
or
discouraging
one
way
or
the
other,
why
is
it
important
that
we
make.
C
M
A
The
TSA
allows
so
much
additional
density
that
it
like
Nick,
said
the
tool
that
we
use
in
RMF
30
was
a
preservation
density
bonus.
So
you're
allowed
this
many
units.
If
you
keep
existing
structure,
I,
don't
remember
exactly
what
we
Define
that
as
you
get
one
additional
unit.
So
in
this
case,
if
we
wanted
to
apply
that
and
I'm
not
suggesting
this,
don't
lose
your
mind
but
like
it
would
be,
you
can
do
two
adus.
A
This
is
a
real
situation
in
like
a
small
property
in
one
of
those
multi-family
zones
and
the
economics
of
tearing
it
down
to
build
a
duplex
or
the
reality
that,
if
I
tear
it
down
and
build
a
duplex
I
don't
have
to
have
owner
occupancy
would
I
think
lead.
People
would
be
an
incentive
to
do
what
you
don't
want
them
to
do,
whereas
if
we
allow
the
Adu
to
be
built
without
owner
occupancy,
they're
effectively
getting
two
units
on
that
lot
without
having
to
tear
down
the
primary
unit
to
build
a
duplex.
A
So
they
can
keep
the
primary
residence
as
is
untouched
and
then
add
one
additional
unit,
and
that
may
be
something
that,
in
a
smaller
property
on
particularly
like
us,
like
RMF,
30
or
form-based
Urban,
one
like
smaller
density,
multi-family
zones.
I
think
maybe
that
may
be
where
the
Tipping
Point
is
that
that
those
May
state
but
again
in
TSA,
I,
think
I,
agree
with
Nick
that
the
difference
between
a
single
family
home
and
what
is
allowed
in
TSA
is
so
great
that
I'm
not
sure
this
would
change
the
economics
enough.
That's.
M
Right
and-
and
what
it
does
do
is
that
if,
if
there
is
a
small
property
owner
out
there,
who
isn't
interested
in
developing,
it
may
incentivize
them
to
add
another
unit
and
not
put
their
property
on
the
market
right
I
mean
that's
a
that
is
a
potential
that's
out
there,
but
a
single
family
dwelling,
regardless
of
the
Zone,
with
an
Adu
when
that
zone
allows
more
development
right.
It's
it's
not
always
going
to
be
an
economic
competitive
advantage
to
do
the
Adu
over
what
otherwise
is
allowed.
P
A
A
We
are
give
you
a
minute
or
two
to
just
introduce
yourself.
Why
you're
willing
to
spend
your
free
time
with
the
city
and
let
council
members
ask
any
questions
if
they
have
them
for
you,
okay,.
AG
My
name
is
Jason
Wessel
I
am
currently
the
chair
of
the
Human
Rights,
Commission
and
I.
Think
by
ordinance
the
Human
Rights
Commission
is
supposed
to
have
a
member
on
the
racial
equity
and
policing
commission,
the
member
of
our
community
of
the
Human
Rights
Commission.
That
was
going
to
do.
It
has
a
conflict
of
interest.
So
my
second
term
on
the
Human
Rights
Commission,
is
about
to
end
at
the
end
of
the
year,
so
I
volunteered
to
do
the
racial
equity
and
policing
commission.
L
A
A
R
R
Okay,
so
my
name
is
Teresa.
Gregory
I
would
like
to
serve
because
I
truly
believe
in
serving
the
community
in
which
I
live
and
more
specifically,
I
want
to
give
back
that
which
I
have
received,
and,
through
my
employment,
I
have
learned
a
lot
about
not
only
evaluating
you
know
the
cost
benefit
of
services
and
specifically
understanding
how
a
program
will
benefit
the
stakeholders,
and
in
this
case
it
would
be
our
community
members
and
the
connection
I
have
with
the
community
members.
A
A
Z
My
name
is
Miranda
Cask
I
used
to
work
for
Northwest
Bank
as
the
AVP
of
created
analyst
and
I
graduated
from
the
University
of
Utah
I
took
masters
of
real
estate
development
program,
I
used
to
work
for
mayor's
Baker's
office
back
in
2010
to
2012.
Z
During
my
free
time,
I
am
voluntarily
by
helping
the
University
of
the
University
of
Utah
students
who
are
graduated
in
May,
reviewing
their
resume
cover
letter
and
conducted
a
free
workshop
for
them
to
prepare
for
the
interview,
so
they
can
be
ready
to
enter
the
workplace
and
I
also
help
my
community
Indonesian
Community
to
file
their
taxes
for
people
who
can't
pay
the
CPA.
Z
Thanks
for
my
experience
at
Northwest,
Bank
I'm
able
to
review
individual
and
business
taxes
and
use
my
experience
and
skills
serving
the
community
and
the
reason
why
I'm
applying
for
this
becoming
this
board
member,
because
it's
about
time
for
me
to
serve
the
community
in
Salt,
Lake
City
I-
am
a
Salt
Lake
City
residence
I
live
in
Sugarhouse
and
I've
been
living
here
for
10
years
so
time
for
me
to
give
back
with
all
my
strength
and
skills
and
experience
and
education
that
I
have
over
a
decade.
Thanks.
Thank.
Q
Q
I
wish
yep
and
I
look
forward
to
you,
representing
not
just
Sugarhouse
in
our
area,
but
obviously
all
of
Salt
Lake
City.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
service,
you're.
U
Z
AH
Okay,
my
name's
Dave
John,
I'm,
Taiwan
Danae
and
when
yeah
Ashley
and
Cleveland
was
telling
me
about
this
group,
she
kind
of
had
an
idea
of
what
I've
already
done.
You
know
with
the
indigenous
community
and
it's
always
good
to
see
that
you
know
this
board
exists
to
hear
the
voices
of
the
indigenous
people
here
on
the
Wasatch
Front
and
but
of
course
you
know,
we
need
it
all
over
plus
the
state,
but
it's
good
to
get
a
group
together.
AH
We
help
support
a
lot
of
tribes
that
have
different
issues
that
are
going
on
within
their
Nation
yeah,
and
so
you
had
to
get
that
yeah.
This
board's
being
put
together,
I've
already
I,
know
a
lot
of
the
people
that
are
on
the
board
now.
I
know
what
good
works
they
do.
AH
Then
it's
nice
that
I
guess
we
kind
of
already
knew
each
other.
So.
A
Great,
thank
you.
Dave
council
members,
I'll
just
say,
I'm,
really
glad
that
we
have
a
representative
of
the
indigenous
community
on
our
peanut
board.
I.
Think
that's
incredibly
important
and
thank
you
for
filling
that
critical,
important
role.
B
L
A
Thank
you
thank
you
and,
as
I
told
the
others,
you'll
be
on
our
consent
agenda,
you
do
not
do
not
need
to
attend,
it
will
be,
but
it
will
be
officially
adopted
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
your
willingness
to
serve.
A
All
right
so
reported
the
chair
and
vice
chair
I
have
none
Vice,
chair,
executive
director,
all
right
I
believe
we
do
have
a
closed
session.
Miss.
Z
Q
I
mean
Mr
Cherry
would
move
that
we
enter
into
closed
session
and
adjourn
after
a
closed
session.
Do
you
need
to
come
back
as
our
formal
session?
Is
that
right.
Q
Yeah,
that's
what
I'm
moving
forward
to
do
and
it's
for
purposes
of
to
discuss,
purchase,
exchange
or
lease
of
real
property
and
attorney-client
matters.
Second,.
A
A
Pui,
yes
and
I'm,
a
yes
that
passes
seven
to
zero.
We
on
a
I
guess
you're
supposed
to
stay
in
the
same
link.