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From YouTube: Historic Landmarks Commission Meeting - 06/01/2023
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Salt Lake City Historic Landmarks Commission Meeting - 06/01/2023
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Thank
you.
Comments
are
still
coming
in
welcome
to
the
June
1st
2023
Historic
Landmark
Commission
meeting
Babs
delay.
Our
chair
is
excused
from
this
meeting,
so
I'll
be
leading
it
as
a
vice
chair
in
attendance
tonight
we
have
Captain
Peters
Michael
Vella
Carlton,
Goetz,
Amanda
DeLucia
and
Emily
Kearns
Michael
Abrams
Abramson
is
excused
as
well
along
with
Babs.
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The
requested
alterations
for
this
major
alteration
application
include
the
construction
of
a
rear,
Edition
and
a
detached
garage
on
the
site
Additionally.
The
applicant
is
requesting
a
modification
to
the
base
zoning
to
allow
for
an
increase
in
height
to
the
detached
garage
that
increased
height
request
is
for
six
feet
and
seven
inches
above
the
allowed
15
feet
here
on
this
slide,
I
have
the
proposed
site
plan
where
you
can
see
where
the
rear
Edition
will
be
located,
as
well
as
the
detached
garage
proposal.
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So
this
property
is
a
contributing
site
to
the
Harvard
Heights
local
historic
district.
It
is
an
English
cottage
style
structure
that
was
constructed
in
1926..
It's
also
located
in
the
yalecrest
National
Historic
District
and
is
in
the
r17000
zoning
District,
as
well
as
the
yalecraft
compatible
infill
overlay
zoning
District.
So
here
you
have
the
1934
tax
photograph
so
taken
less
than
10
years
after
its
construction.
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The
wings,
as
well
as
the
proposed
West
and
East
Elevation
drawings,
these
images
were
included
in
the
body
of
the
staff
report.
However,
in
the
attachment
for
the
building
plans,
unfortunately,
I
had
attached
a
previous
rendition
of
the
plan
set,
but
there's
a
correct
plan
set
that
has
been
uploaded
into
the
Dropbox
for
you
all
to
review.
Ultimately,
the
changes
included
some
material
change,
so
you
can
see
here
on
the
proposed
proposed
East
Elevation.
The
applicant
has
included
some
breaking
up
in
materials,
so
there's
a
painted
lap
siding
on
the
rear
Edition.
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That
will
be,
in
contrast
to
the
historic
brick,
to
be
able
to
read
the
proposed
Edition
from
the
existing
historic
structure,
as
well
as
a
jog
that
is
being
proposed
in
between
the
historic
structure
and
the
proposed
Edition.
As
noted
in
the
staff
reports,
staff
did
meet
several
times
with
the
applicant
to
discuss
changes
to
the
design
to
better
allow
this
proposal
to
meet
the
standards
and
design
guidelines,
so
I
have
that
outlined
in
the
staff
report.
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But
here
are
those
elevations
and
here's
the
existing
North
and
proposed,
as
well
as
the
existing
South
and
proposed
elevation.
So
on
the
historic
portion
of
the
structure,
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
replace
the
existing
non-historic
windows
with
truly
divided
wood
windows
that
match
the
profile
and
light
pattern
of
the
historic
structure
and
then
very
no
other
alterations
to
the
primary
facade
and
on
the
south
elevation.
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You
can
see
an
existing
the
view
of
where
the
non-historic
Edition
post-1959
historic
Edition
is
located,
as
well
as
the
board
in
Baton
proposed
Edition
on
the
rear,
as
well
as
the
wall
Dormer
on
this
Rear
South
elevation
on
the
detached
garage
proposal.
This
is
the
21
foot
7
inch
in
height,
detached
garage,
the
Dormers,
the
Gable
and
the
pitch
match.
What
is
on
the
structure
and
is
compatible
in
design
in
that
way.
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Hi,
my
name
is
Emily
foxley
and
I'm.
The
property
owner
of
1454
East,
Harvard
Avenue.
First
I
would
just
like
to
thank
you
guys
for
your
hard
work
and
the
present
preservation
efforts
of
the
Historic
Landmark
commission
I'm
here
tonight,
with
my
husband,
Colin
Strasser
and
on
behalf
of
my
young
family,
my
two
sons,
jack
and
George
I,
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
a
background.
I
My
husband
and
I
met
when
we
were
both
living
on
Laredo
Avenue
and
we
would
walk
the
neighborhood
and
fell
in
love
with
Harvard,
and
it
was
always
a
dream
to
live
on
this
street.
We
ended
up
moving
out
of
the
neighborhood,
but
always
wanted
to
move
back.
We
loved
the
mature
trees
and
all
the
unique
architecture
and
the
walkability,
and
so
when
this
home
became
available,
we
were
ecstatic
we
dove
into
this
binder
here,
the
preservation
handbook
and
the
266
pages
I
quickly.
I
You
know
learned
as
much
as
I
could
but
realized.
I
was
not
an
expert
in
this
field,
so
I
was
grateful
enough
to
meet
with
Kirk
huffaker
and
hire
him
to
help
me
with
our
application
and
our
plans
and
the
process
which
has
been
really
invaluable
to
us.
So
he
is
here
and
will
address
you
after
my
remarks.
The
home
was
built
in
1926.
I
Let's
see,
we
are
very
committed
to
using
high
quality
materials,
engaging
local
Artisans
and
constructing
an
addition
and
rehability
doing
the
home
so
that
it
can
last
another
100
years
or
more.
Hopefully,
we
understand
that
our
role
is
to
be
the
steward
of
this
property
and
embrace
the
history
and
also
maintain
it
so
that
it
can
be
enjoyed
for
many
many
years
to
come.
We
have
a
deep
appreciation
for
the
neighborhood
and
the
character
and
for
the
preservation
efforts
of
the
commission,
and
we
appreciate
your
time
and
consideration
very
much.
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I
Absolutely
you
know
we
on
several
different
iterations
of
the
plan
and
we
work
closely
with
Aiden
to
come
up
with
some
ideas
on
how
to
break
up
the
mass
and
to
have
what
we
were
presenting
today
be
meet
the
guidelines
and
the
standards.
And
so
we
do
realize
that
we
are
expanding
the
footprint.
But
we
have
done
our
best
to
have
that
be
within
the
guidelines
and
the
standards.
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Well,
my
name
is
Kirk
huffaker
I'm,
the
consultant
to
the
property
owners
for
this
project
and
I
really
came
in
I
think
fairly
late
in
the
process.
They
actually
did
a
lot
of
this
work
on
their
own,
as
lay
people
learning
all
of
the
language
and
regulations
and
guidance
that
is
out
there
and
they
really
digested
all
of
that,
and
so
what
you
see
is
really
the
work
product
of
the
owners
and
their
architect.
H
I
also
want
to
just
give
some
Commendation
to
Aiden
and
Michaela
for
their
guidance
as
well.
I
know,
there's
been
several
meetings
to
get
to
this
point
so
as
always
staff,
it's
very
helpful,
I.
Think
to
me
you
know.
The
most
important
thing
about
this
project
is
that
the
facade
is
actually
going
in
a
positive
direction.
We're
going
back
to
Windows
that
match
that
historic
photo
they've
all
been
changed
out.
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You
cannot
see
it
from
the
facade
and
really
you
can't
see
it
from
the
street,
except
for
a
an
acute
angle,
as
you're
walking
down
the
sidewalk
from
west
to
east,
her
from
east
to
west,
where
the
driveway
is,
because
that's
the
larger
side
setback
for
the
house.
So
it's
really
Limited
in
terms
of
what
you
can
see
from
the
public.
Right-Of-Way
they've
taken
care
to
really
protect
that
front
facade
and
make
this
addition
stand
out
on
its
own,
be
it
have
it
be
historically
appropriate.
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Let
yet
distinguished
for
its
own
time,
which
is
always
you
know,
a
tricky
balance
and
what
was
my
last
point.
I
talked
about
the
step-ins
as
being
one
of
the
strong
points
of
the
design
as
well,
and
so
I
I
hope.
You
see
that
there
has
been
time
and
Care
taken
through
the
process.
There
have
been
changes
and
they
feel
like
this
is
something
workable
for
their
family
that
can
be
sustainable
for
many
years
and
not
and
be
really
an
investment
in
the
neighborhood
and
this
particular
property.
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J
I
did
have
one
I
hadn't
noticed
this.
Actually,
the
first
time
I
looked
at
this,
but
I
do
see
that
on
the
I'm
going
to
call
it
the
front
left
if
you're
facing
the
house,
where
there's
the
entry
door
on
the
side
that
you
are
modifying
that
that
area,
that's
more
towards
the
front
of
the
house
slightly
could
could
you
speak
just
a
little
bit
to
what's
driving
the
impact
in
that
area,
which
is
more
in
the
public
view
of.
G
Yeah
I'm,
so
sorry,
the
correct
plan
set
is
now
uploaded
as
a
separate
document
in
that
file
in
the
Dropbox.
So
that
actually
was
a
compromise
that
the
applicant
made.
That
would
have
been
an
addition
to
a
very
visible
original
facade
in
order
to
enlarge
their
staircase.
So
they
were
willing
to
remove
that
section
to
be
able
to
totally
retain
that
secondary,
but
original
facade.
So
I'm.
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B
B
K
I'll
do
that
first
of
all,
I
feel
lucky
to
have
gotten
here
for
a
parking
spot
today,
I'm
the
neighbor
to
the
east
of
Colin
and
Emily
and
I
have
a
very
historic
house
that
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
restoring
and
the
house
that
they're
working
on
unfortunately
had
some
things
taken
out
of
it
back
probably
in
the
60s.
The
windows
it
lacks.
K
Some
of
the
character
features
that
they're
trying
to
put
back
in
so
I
was
over
there
for
a
couple
hours
with
them
last
week,
just
as
she
was
going
through
the
plans
and
showing
me
what
their
plans
were
and
why
they
were
doing
what
they
were
doing
and
I
think
she's
tried
really
calling
it
and
Emily
I've
tried
really
hard
to
keep.
It
feel
like
the
neighborhood
and
the
1920s
houses
that
ex
that
exist
on
that
block.
K
So
I'm
also
the
neighbor
to
the
garage,
and
there
is
about
a
four
foot
step
up
from
my
lot
down
to
their
Lots.
So,
for
me,
I'd
much
rather
have
the
taller
garage
and
the
correct
pitch
on
the
garage
than
having
a
garage
that
looks
like
it's
from
the
1960s.
Then
the
pitch
is
wrong
because
most
of
the
existing,
my
garage
is
an
original
garage
that
has
that
type
of
pitch
so
I
feel
like
it
doesn't
impact
my
yard
at
all.
K
I
have
a
tree
there
and
then
again,
I
have
a
four
foot
step
up,
so
their
garage
from
my
side
won't
look
as
tall
and
then
Karen
on
the
other
side.
I,
don't
think
she'd
see
the
garage
as
much
as
I
would
on
my
side,
so
I
I've
looked
at
everything.
I
think
they've
done
a
great
job
and
they're
trying
really
hard
to
make
it
look
right.
K
I
understand
why
young
families
want
these
additions
and
why
they
I
mean
I,
live
in
an
impractical
house
with
you,
know
little
closets
and
so
having
some
of
the
features
that
people
look
for
nowadays,
I
think
makes
sense,
but
I'm
impressed
with
what
they're
trying
to
do
I
think
they're
doing
a
great
job
and
anything
that
they
showed
me
on
those
plans.
I'm
100
in
on
including
the
height
of
the
garage
like
I,
said
it's
important
for
me
to
have
that
pitch.
Look
right
than
to
have
a
pitch
that
doesn't
match
that
1920s
architecture.
B
B
B
E
You
know
since
you're.
Looking
at
sorry
since
you're
looking
at
me,
I'll
go
ahead
and
comment,
you
know
I'm
looking
at
Google,
Earth
right
now
and
I'm.
Looking
at
you
know,
from
the
perspective
of
the
the
neighbor
I,
think
everything
that
that
is
proposed
on
the
house
with
the
gables
matching
with
the
windows.
Matching
it's
it's
a
it's
a
good
good
addition,
and
you
know
you
you'll
see
it
a
little
bit
from
the
East,
but
but
you'd
have
to
be
looking
for
it.
E
E
B
D
C
Guess
it
brought
up
the
garage
partially
because
I've
run
into
situations
in
East,
Side
neighborhoods,
where
you
couldn't
do
it
an
appropriate
garage
because
of
the
height
limits
in
the
zoning
ordinance,
but
they
weren't
in
the
historic
zone.
So
we
didn't
have
an
Avenue
for
getting
an
exemption
and
you
know.
C
But
you
know
that's
how
it
just
came
to
mind
I
was
concerned.
It
was
good
to
hear
Bob
say
that
he
didn't
think
it
was
an
issue
there
I
agree
with
keeping
the
pitch
like
as
it
is
to
match
the
house.
The
you
know
you
could
do
the
you
could
do
the
same,
but
give
up
your
storage
space.
But
thinking
about
that
street,
there's
lots
of
other
big
things
going
on
there.
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
an
issue
likewise
with
the
overall
size
of
the
addition.
C
C
Yet
again,
going
back
to
Harvard
and
having
walked
up
and
down
that
street
many
times
it's
not
out
of
scale
with
other
things
that
are
there,
and
it's
not
for
me
to
question
what
how
much
space
someone
thinks
they
need,
even
though
I
do
but
anyhow
I'm,
okay,
I,
think
they've
done
a
good
job
in
trying
to
make
a
compatible
design
and
fit
into
the
neighborhood
and
provide
a
really
nice
living
space
for
the
family.
So
I'm
good
with
it.
J
I,
don't
have
a
whole
lot
to
add
other
than
that.
You
know.
I
would
say
that
having
seen
the
old
plans
and
not
recognize
that
I
was
looking
at
the
wrong
set
still,
you
know
I
appreciate
that
the
owners
have
taken
the
time
to
research
what
they
did
for
the
comments
earlier
in
advance
of
the
design
and
understand
what
they're
trying
to
do.
J
I
appreciate
that
you're
trying
to
restore
a
lot
of
elements
that
have
been
lost
over
time
and
bring
those
back
and
I
also
appreciate
the
willingness
to
compromise
on
that.
One
feature
that
we
just
discussed
a
moment
ago,
because
I
do
think
that
would
have
been
critical
if
that
had
been
in
there.
But
given
that
your
your
willing
to
revise
that
plan
and
look
at
other
options
that
turned
out
to
be
acceptable,
I
think
is
a
very
positive
comment
on
the
overall
project.
E
There
we
go
based
on
the
information
presented
and
the
discussion
I
move
that
the
Historic
Landmark
commission
approved
this
application
with
the
following
modifications
that
the
approval
of
all
final
details,
including
specific
Direction,
expressed
by
the
commission,
shall
be
delegated
to
planning
staff.
I,
don't
know
that
there's
any
direction
expressed
by
the
planning
staff.
So
it's
it's
it's
as
it
is.
That
would
be
the
motion.
C
B
L
B
B
B
L
You
this
is
a
request
for
new
construction
at
675
East,
500
South.
This
is
a
request
that
I'm
bringing
back
to
you.
The
applicant
is
brought
back
to
you
after
the
commission,
tabled
the
request.
I'm
tasking
the
applicant
to
make
a
number
of
revisions
there
to
their
initial
application.
So
just
some
background
on
what's
happened
since
then.
On
January
5th,
the
commission
reviewed
this
item
and
tabled
the
request
with
a
number
of
requested
revisions,
planning
staff
sent
out
a
letter
laying
out
those
revisions
and
that
letter
is
included
in
the
staff
report.
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That
letter
is
dated
January
17
2023
the
motion
made
to
table
the
request
failed
to
include
keeping
the
public
hearing
open
so
on
February,
2nd
2023.
The
commission
reopened
the
public
Hearing
in
order
to
enable
people
to
speak
at
this
meeting
today
that
didn't
change
anything
with
the
application.
It
was
just
a
second
motion
to
extend
the
conversation
and
then
between
then,
and
now,
planning
staff
worked
with
the
applicants
through
a
number
of
iterations
on
the
project.
What
you're
seeing
today
is
not
the
first
or
second
draft.
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This
is
after
three
or
four
times
going
back
and
forth
with
planning
staff.
So
it's
it's
been
a
long
long
road
up
to
this
point.
So
with
that
just
a
brief
summary.
This
is
new
construction
within
a
local,
historic
district.
It's
within
the
central
City
Historic
district
and
the
corner
of
700
East
and
500
South
nearby
historic
resources
include
the
the
Malloy
Hancock
Mansion,
which
is
directly
to
the
north
enzyme
floral,
which
is
part
of
the
Liberty
Square
development.
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L
L
Well,
we
can
look
at
this
vicinity
map
here.
It
is
the
zoning
map
and
the
Green
Street
section
of
this
property
requires
a
setback
to
accommodate
fire
access
and
fire
ladders,
and
so
that's
that's
the
first
request.
The
second
is
the
num,
the
spacing
of
building
entrances
on
a
street-facing
facade,
the
requirement
is
every
40
feet.
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So
just
context:
here's
the
building
buildings
that
are
currently
on
the
property
there's
the
sitla
building,
as
well
as
Big
Daddy's
Pizza
to
sit
the
building
is
known
as
the
Xerox
building
to
some
people
around
here.
I
I
do
not
know
it
is
the
Xerox
building
and
then
just
some
other
photos
here.
There's
the
Malloy
mansion
on
the
right,
as
well
as
another
shot
of
the
state
trust
building.
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Here's
Big
Daddy's
Pizza,
as
discussed
earlier
in
the
meeting
both
of
these
are
the
last
meeting.
Both
of
these
properties
are
buildings
on
the
subject.
Property
are
non-contributing
structures.
The
Big
Daddy's
Pizza,
A
administrative
interpretation
was
made
in
2022.
Regarding
this
specific
property,
it
was
found
that
there
are
several
features
that
were
lost
on
this
property
that
warranted
a
change
in
status
from
the
contributing
status.
That
was
on
the
original
survey
in
2013
to
to
today
they
had
widened
the
facade.
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Okay,
now
I'll
go
over
some
of
these
revisions
here
that
the
things
that
changed
between
then
and
now
so
I
kind
of
broke
them
up
into
the
different
subsections
that
were
laid
out
in
the
letter.
So,
first
off
for
details
within
the
plan
there,
the
commission
asked
for
a
streetscape
study
that
was
better
than
what
they
had
provided.
The
commission
asked
for
a
shade
study
showing
the
impact
this
property
would
have
on
this
project
would
have
on
adjacent
properties.
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It
does
not
change
the
proposal
at
all,
it's
more
for
accuracy,
so
that
we
can
focus
on
the
proposal
and
not
on
the
plans
and
then
also
providing
some
detail
about
the
floor
plans
and
how
exactly
it
interacts
with
the
public
way,
specifically
along
700
East.
So
here
it's
just
illustrating
the
difference
between
the
original
plans
and
the
revised
plans.
They're
much
clearer.
They
are
easier
to
read
and
there
are
some
details
in
there.
The
locations
of
doors
are
more
clearly
marked.
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You
can
see,
hear
our
doors
as
opposed
to
the
old
plans,
where
it's
not
very
clear
where
the
doors
are
same
here,
so
the
streetscape
studies,
the
The
Proposal-
includes
not
only
the
proposed
streetscape
but
the
existing
streetscape
and
provides
details
about
how
the
project
relates
to
buildings
within
the
vicinity.
You
can
see
they've
tried
to
connect
the
scale
to
Liberty
Square
to
other
development
nearby
to
station
424,
and
even
with
the
step
back
to
the
the
Molloy
Mansion,
you
can
see
here
the
building,
The
Trolley
Square
buildings.
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Here,
that's
actually
Whole
Foods
over
there
on
the
500
South
are
yeah.
Here
is
the
shadow
study
showing
what
the
impact
of
the
property
will
have
on
specifically
the
the
Hancock
Mansion.
You
can
see
there
are
times,
especially
in
the
winter,
when
there
will
be
an
impact,
but
it's
important
to
remember
that
this.
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L
So,
first
off
the
relationship
to
the
surroundings.
Those
streetscape
studies
show
how
the
design
elements
of
the
building
relate
to
adjacent
structures,
and,
while
everything
is
not
perfect,
it
does
show
how
the
scale
is
related
to
Trolley
Square,
Liberty
Square,
the
Malloy
Mansion
station
424
and
other
buildings.
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Again
along
the
north
facade,
there
is
a
landscape
wall.
Not
only
is
there
brick
which
is
not
required
in
the
TSA
UNC
District.
This
is
an
additional
feature
beyond
what
is
required
in
the
TSA
District,
the
additional
glazing
and
then
the
new
step
back,
which
is
approximately
15-ish
feet
back
from
7th
East
and
50
feet
back
from
the
house
and
also
a
landscape
buffer
separating
the
the
building.
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This
also
enables
the
Hancock
Mansion
to
maintain
access
to
their
parking
lot
in
the
rear
due
to
the
nature
of
the
property,
which
is
pretty
common
in
historic
Districts,
The
Drive
aisle
between
the
property
line
and
the
house
is
it's
less
than
10
feet.
This
space
allows
vehicles
with
large
mirrors,
I'm
thinking,
F-150s
or
whatever,
to
be
able
to
make
it
through
to
the
rear
of
the
building.
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L
So
just
a
closer
look
at
them.
The
improved
porch
design,
all
right
as
far
as
site
layout
goes
700
East.
This
facade
is
built
right
up
to
the
property
line
and
that
has
been
a
point
of
consternation
for
for
planning
staff
and
for
other
individuals.
But
staff
is
comfortable
with
the
changes
that
have
been
provided,
that
the
proposed
setback
meets
the
the
standards
for
the
historic
preservation
for
the
new
construction.
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So,
first
off
there's
this
downward
movement
of
masses
toward
the
Malloy
mansion.
There's
additional
glazing.
You
see
how
much
fun
I
had
here.
It's
there's
a
step
back:
a
landscape
buffer
and
the
additional
setback
that
was
not
there
before
nine
extra
feet
of
setback,
Doors
door
spacing
that
I
mentioned
earlier.
They
still
need
a
modification
to
the
zoning
requirement
in
the
TSA
District,
but
they
have
vastly
improved
the
number
of
doors
that
are
along
each
entry
for
the
Green
Street
and
the
500
South
facades,
the
40.
L
They
are
averaging
40
feet
of
separation
between
each
door.
There
is
an
outdoor
Plaza
on
the
700
East
facade,
and
this
is
the
largest
gap
of
about
94
feet
and
but
the
the
additional
amenities
here,
the
outdoor
space.
This
staff
is
comfortable
that
this
does
is
an
appropriate
modification
to
the
TSA
zoning
requirements.
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L
So
they
have
provided
clearer
detail
for
every
material
proposed
here,
the
size
of
the
panel
and,
in
addition
to
the
size
of
the
panel,
they
provided
details
about
how
the
materials
articulate
they
provided
specific,
architectural
renderings
of
how
our
drawings,
showing
at
each
point
of
change.
What
that
looks
like
from
a
profile
of
you.
So
you
can
get
a
feel
for
the
texture
of
the
building
and
what
that
articulation
would
look
like
from
the
street.
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L
But
in
addition
to
this,
this
walkway
will
also
include
lighting.
It
has
shade
trees.
It
has
things
that
are
typically
required
for
a
mid-block
walkway
in
other
districts,
where
we
would
require
amenities
for
mid-block
walkways
interesting.
Looking
C
there,
the
facade
length,
the
700
East
facade,
is
now
narrower
than
200
feet.
So
a
modification
is
no
longer
required
for
that
facade,
but
for
500
South
it
is
still
298
feet
and
Green
Street
is
214
feet.
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L
The
applicants
can
speak
more
about
who
they
have
partnered
with
for
that,
but
it
will
not
be
the
1920s.
What
do
you
call
that,
lithograph
and
and
then
along
Green
Street?
They
have
that
pedestrian
walkway
they've
added
the
ground
floor
entries.
They
also
have
the
changes
in
vertical
plane
and
materials.
The
massing
has
been
broken
up,
so
staff
is
recommending
approval
for
this
modification
and
then
the
building
entrances
like
I
mentioned
there
are
it's
a
40
foot
average
for
the
Green,
Street
facade
and
the
500
South
facade.
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So
in
staff's
opinion
it
meets
the
intent
of
the
code,
but
still
does
require
that
modification
and
along
700
East
there's
that
outdoor
amenity
space,
outdoor
Plaza
I
went
that
will
take
care
of
and
provide
additional
space
for
pedestrians,
where
they're
and,
in
addition
to
the
Plaza,
there's
additional
transparency
on
the
ground
floor.
It's
it's
an
improvement
on
the
the
previous
proposal.
They
they
mentioned.
They
still
had
issues
with
the
the
grading
there,
but
that's
it's
still
an
appropriate
modification.
So
yeah
staff
is
recommending
approval
because
it
meets
the
generally
meets
the
standards.
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It
meets
the
zoning
and
design
standards
with
the
modifications
that
were
requested
and
it
complies
with
and
fulfills
master
plan
policies
and
then
there's
one
recommended
condition
about
the
lighting
at
this
stage
in
the
process,
lighting
isn't
usually
finalized
and
staff
is
confident
that
we
can
line
up
the
actual
lighting
plan
with
the
what
has
been
proposed
in
the
illustrations
and
the
renderings,
and
with
that
we'll
move
to
the
applicant's
presentation
and
there's
a
whole
team
here,
so
I
will
get
things
set
up
for
them.
Thank
you.
Aaron.
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Good
evening
my
name
is
Michael
Augustine
with
Alta
Terra
real
estate.
First
I
want
to
thank
the
commission
for
having
us
here
this
evening.
I
also
want
to
thank
the
commission
for
the
feedback
and
responses
through
the
record
of
action
letter
that
allowed
us
to
work
with
the
city
staff
to
make
appropriate
revisions
that
meet
all
the
city
standards.
M
I
also
really
want
to
thank
Aaron
Barlow
and
the
City
Planning
staff
for
the
multiple
meetings
you
know,
via
virtual
in-person
phone
calls
to
just
help
us
understand
and
clarify
the
responses
from
the
commission,
the
concerns
from
the
staff
and
to
allow
us
to
make
the
revisions
and
get
some
clarity
that
you
know
we're
meeting
the
City
standards
and
and
zoning
regulations.
I'd
also
like
to
thank
the
murdochs
as
well
the
owners
of
the
Malloy
property
for
their
time
and
feedback
sitting
here
to
flip
through
the
staff
report.
Images
as
we
go
through
our
presentation.
M
As
Aaron
stated,
we
have
worked
with
City
staff
through
several
iterations
from
January
to
May
of
2023.
We're
very
appreciative
of
that
time.
This
allowed
us
to
address
the
comments
given
to
us
by
the
commission
and
the
city
staff
contained
in
the
record
of
action
letter.
We
have
made
a
significant
changes
and
concessions
to
our
project
most
to
satisfy
City
requirements
and
others
to
address
neighbor
concerns
and
to
ensure
that
we
comply
with
City
standards
and
ordinances.
M
Increasing
the
setback
from
the
north
property
line
from
zero
feet
to
nine
feet,
eight
inches,
where
no
setback
is
required
for
the
TSA
District.
By
doing
so,
we've
reduced
the
number
of
parking
spaces
from
382,
which
was
in
our
previous
design
to
327
and
our
new
proposed
design
or
a
reduction
of
55
parking
spaces.
This
setback
also
puts
the
north
wall
of
our
building
approximately
19
feet
two
inches
from
the
closest
wall
of
the
Molloy
building.
Previously
it
was
at
our
property
line
in
approximately
nine
and
a
half
feet.
M
We
step
back
the
front
15
feet
of
the
upper
floors,
which
are
floors
four
through
eight
from
700
East
back
at
the
northeast
corner
of
the
building.
The
step
back
occurs
at
a
height
of
roughly
27
feet
at
the
same
northeast
corner.
We
step
back
to
building
44
feet
from
the
north
to
south
away
from
the
mole
property.
M
M
As
a
reference
point,
the
southernmost
building
phase
of
the
recently
approved
station
424
project
is
only
14
to
16
feet
from
the
north
wall
and
does
not
provide
any
step
back
away
from
the
Malloy
building
going
all
the
way
up.
As
noted
in
the
December
22
hlc
meeting,
as
Aaron
mentioned,
climbing
vines
along
the
section
of
the
north
wall
that
is
adjacent
to
the
Malloy
property.
N
M
Climbing
vines
along
the
section
of
the
north
wall
that
is
adjacent
to
the
Malloy
building
property,
a
landscape
buffer
between
the
structure
and
the
north
property
line
within
the
added
nine
nine
feet.
Eight
inch
setback,
additional
fenestration
and
glazing
on
every
floor.
Upper
Floor
every
floor
actually
of
the
northeast
corner,
facade
all
Illustrated
in
this
elevation.
M
These
buildings
perceive
scale.
We
have
implemented
several
Design
Elements
to
mitigate
the
length
and
height
of
the
street,
facing
facades,
as
noted
previously
700
East,
which
was
a
modific
modification
request
on
our
previous
application.
Due
to
us
exceeding
200
feet
no
longer
exceeds
200
feet.
The
facade
facing
Green
Street.
M
M
M
The
500
South
facade
features
a
mural
above
the
main
entrance
to
better
separate
the
two
larger
masses
on
either
side.
The
large
Windows
mentioned
above
wrap
around
the
the
cover,
a
wrap
around
the
corner
and
cover
the
upper
levels
of
the
West
section
of
the
facade
shrinking
the
perceived
width
of
that
elevation.
R500
South
facade
is
very
similar
in
nature
to
the
recently
approved
station
424
development,
700
East
facade,
which
both
includes
larger
masses
being
broken
up
by
courtyards
Additionally.
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The
length
of
the
facade
fits
within
the
historical
context
of
the
block
with
historical
brick
buildings,
including
Trolley,
Square,
trolley
corners
and
several
other
buildings
within
sight.
Some
examples
which
our
team
went
out
and
measured
with
a
tape
wheel
include
Liberty
Boulevard,
which
is
across
the
street
to
the
east,
which
is
670
feet.
Long
Unbroken,
trolley
Corners,
which
faces
700
East
facade,
is
222
feet.
M
M
The
retail
building
portion
of
Trolley
Square,
that
is
west
of
Whole
Foods
on
500
South,
is
295
feet
long
and
the
large
Mall
building,
that's
part
of
Trolley
Square
that
faces
700
East
is
296
feet
long
and
the
600
South
excuse
me
street
facing
facade
is
468
feet
long
Trader
Joe's,
because
they
are
also
within
immediate
proximity.
It's
400,
South
facing
facade
is
332
feet
and
it's
a
green
Street
facade
is
225
feet.
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M
M
Are
set
back
from
700
East,
while
the
revisions
made
have
satisfied
the
city
staff
regarding
the
modification?
Actually,
there
is
no
modification
on
700
East.
Excuse
me.
Our
setback
of
building
its
articulation
of
the
building
50
of
the
building
is
at
the
property
line
and
50
percent
of
the
building
steps
back
between
10
and
15
feet,
which
is
noted
here
on
the
50
Southern
portion
of
the
700
East
facade,
a
diagram
has
been
provided,
illustrating
that
the
proposed
setback
from
700
East
is
not
substantially
different
from
the
approved
setback.
M
I
should
clarify
a
diagram
within
the
package
has
been
provided,
illustrating
that
the
proposed
setback
from
700
East
is
not
substantially
different
from
the
approved
setback
from
the
recently
approved
station
424
development
to
mitigate
impacts
on
the
Malloy
building.
The
updated
plan
includes
significant
changes
as
previously
discussed
to
the
northeast
corner
of
the
building.
The
floors
above
the
podium
have
been
stepped
back,
significantly.
M
More
glazing
added
to
the
upper
floors
and
openings
on
the
ground
floor,
wrap
around
to
the
north
facade
as
another
point
of
reference,
and
in
comparison
the
recently
approved
station
424
development,
700
East
Street,
facing
facade.
According
to
their
streetscape
study
at
the
corner,
adjacent
to
the
Malloy
building,
Rises
40
feet
before
it
steps
back
only
five
feet:
three
inches
our
building
steps
back
above
our
Podium
at
27
feet
high,
which
is
consistent
with
the
scale
of
the
Malloy
building,
which
is
approximately
27
feet
to
the
top
of
the
roof.
M
M
M
Excuse
me
are
now
accessible
through
the
exterior
entries.
The
plan
also
adds
more
entries
to
the
leasing
office,
which
is
at
the
southeast
corner
and
Retail
uses
at
the
northeast
corner.
While
not,
every
entry
is
exactly
within
40
feet.
The
revision
show
a
significant
Improvement
and
only
exceed
40
feet
in
two
locations.
The
average
door
spacing
between
existing
entries
along
the
South
and
West
facades
are
well
below
40
feet
required.
M
To
address
the
increasing
and
spacing
in
two
locations,
the
revisions
include
additional
glazing
and
larger
recesses
to
maintain
safe
pedestrian
access.
As
noted
early
one
of
the
700
East
door,
spacing
that's
greater
than
40
feet
was
specifically
avoided
due
to
the
interior
and
exterior
grading
of
three
to
four
feet
between
interior
and
outside,
while
doors
and
ramps
you
know
can
be
included,
we
felt
and
City
staff
agreed
that
the
experience
in
the
public
Plaza
would
be
diminished
if
a
ramp
was
taking
up
the
space.
M
We
have
significant
ramps
inside
our
clubhouse
and
leasing
office
space
on
the
interior
of
the
building
to
be
able
to
accommodate
the
additional
doors
that
were
added
on
the
500
500
South,
facade
and
I
mentioned
this.
While
doors
are
possible,
I
know
at
our
last
meeting
you
know,
grading
was
a
poor
answer
without
detail
behind
it,
and
now
that
we're
two
locations
that
if
the
commission
finds
it
absolutely
necessary
to
have
doors
in
those
two
locations,
considering
the
fact
that
we
feel
like
it
would
have
a
negative
impact
on
the
public
experience.
M
M
The
provided
diagrams
help
to
visualize
the
overall
texture
of
the
proposed
development
and
how
it
relates
to
and
is
complementary
to
nearby
buildings
in
the
district
existing
and
proposed
warranty
details
have
also
been
provided.
Our
submittal
includes
details
about
the
20-year
warranty
for
the
metal
panel
to
comply
with
Section
21A
37050
B2,
that
lists
permitted
materials
for
new
development
in
the
TSA
District.
The
proposed
materials
will
be
durable
in
nature
and
are
compatible
with
other
materials
found
in
other
projects
within
the
districts.
M
The
building
from
the
Malloy
property.
Remove
the
parking
garage
ventilation
box
in
front
of
the
building
on
700
East
included
additional
details
about
the
proposed
materials,
including
the
panel
size,
material
articulation
and
the
depth
of
the
material
modulations
I.E.
The
point
of
change
I
bring
these
up,
because
these
are
all
specific
comments
either
by
the
commission
at
our
January
hearing
or
provided
by
the
city.
These
are
all
now
included
and
addressed
in
our
package.
M
In
closing,
with
the
revisions
that
have
been
made,
We
believe
We
Have
Not
only
met
the
request
of
the
commission
and
the
City
Planning
staff,
but
we
are
confident.
We've
met
the
requirements
and
standards
of
the
city,
zoning
ordinance
and
new
construction
standards.
We
are
respectfully
requesting
the
same
consideration
and
treatment
that
was
given
to
the
recently
approved
station.
424
development,
as
our
proposed
buildings
are
substantially
similar
with
that.
M
We
also
understand
from
previous
commission
hearings,
specifically
the
December
22
when
station
424,
Was
Heard
and
approved
that
City
staff
and
multiple
Commissioners
mentioned
and
paraphrasing
that
historic
context
along
700
East
has
been
lost
in
only
one.
Historic
item
remains,
the
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
has
changed,
but
we
want
to
ensure
that
property
owners
have
every
right
to
express
re-express
their
comments
and
have
the
opportunity
to
remain
despite
construction
around
around
it,
and
it
was
stated
that
When
contractors
come
in.
Some
people
have
had
good
experiences.
M
That
contractors
will
do
their
diligence
and
work
with
the
historic
structures
and
some
contractors.
Don't
it's
worth
noting
that
we
have
been
working
with
the
murdochs
and
have
already
completed
a
survey
of
their
their
property.
The
historic
Malloy
building
taken
photos,
and
just
this
morning
completed
an
x-ray
of
the
building.
We
have
also
offered
to
bring
our
general
contractor
and
structural
engineer
to
discuss
concerns
and
review
means
and
methods
of
the
work
that
will
take
place
in
close
proximity
to
the
Malloy
property.
J
Got
a
question
Carlton
so
on
the
North
facade
now
that
faces
the
Malloy
house,
there's
a
couple
doors
that
look
like
for
egress
stare
on
that
area,
which
would
require
egress
lighting.
How
do
you
propose
to
minimize
the
light
trespass
onto
the
adjacent
property,
given
the
proximity
of
the
buildings.
M
O
B
I
have
a
question
maybe
best
for
Aaron.
We've
talked
a
lot
about
this
TSA
UNC
zoning
District,
which
is
the
urban
neighborhood
transit
station.
District
I'm
just
curious
how
I
guess
what
the
goals
of
that
District
are
within
the
city's
master
plan
and
if
this
project
presumably
meets
those
helps
meet
those
goals.
So
I
I
just
want
to
hear
what
you
have
to
say
about
that.
L
Really
it's
high
density
residential
at
this
point
utilizing
the
the
transit
at
those
locations.
So
that's
sort
of
the
intent
of
the
TSA
district.
Is
you
know
we?
This
is
what
was
wanted
in
the
master
plan
as
well.
As
you
know,
the
district
permits
this
and
that
height
is
permitted
through
the
the
point
system
that
I
discussed
in
the
report
for
that
additional
floor
of
height.
L
C
C
C
L
Are
a
number
of
things,
architecture,
360,
degree,
architecture
using
those
high
quality,
durable
materials?
This
project
every
side
has
high
quality
materials.
You
see
some
projects
in
this
district
with
blank
concrete
walls
along
party
walls
and
this
they've
used
a
brick
for
the
vast
majority
of
this
North
facade,
there's
also
the
amenity
space
there
are
you
know
it's
it's
been
a
minute
like,
but
they're
they
they've
met
the
points
for
that
there
are
I'm
blanking,
a
mix
of
they've
got
a
retail
element
included
in
here.
L
There
is
the
density
in
which
they're
proposing.
If
you
propose
a
certain
amount
of
density,
you're
awarded
points,
they
are
taking
a
property
that
is
really
non-conforming
in
the
TSA
District
the
surface
parking
lot,
just
the
commercial
use
and
replacing
that
with
the
high
density
mixed
use.
That
is
a
benefit.
That's
a
they
get
points
for
doing
that.
L
C
See
are
there
any
things
that
would
lose
them
points
in
the
in
the
district
requirements
like,
for
example,
when
zero
parking
is
required
and
they
are
providing
327,
which
I
appreciate
you've
reduced
from
the
370
something,
but
still
that
seems
contrary
to
the
goals
of
being
in
a
transit,
district
and
I
understand.
From
your
your
marketing
point
of
view,
people
are
going
to
have
cars,
but
again
it
seems
contrary
to
the
intent
of
the
district
and.
L
They
did
not
receive
points
for
the
parking.
Do
they
lose
them,
there's
no
loss
of
points,
but
they
do
there's
there's
only
a
gain
of
points
if
they
keep
parking
down
to
zero.
If
you
have
parking
below
a
certain
ratio
of
one
to
one
for
for
units,
then
you
get
an
additional
25
points
in
this
case.
They
they
don't
yeah.
So,
okay
and
it
should
be
noted.
You
know
this
is
a
I
mentioned
in
the
staff
report.
The
the
use
here
isn't
multi-family.
L
It's
a
student,
housing,
rooming
boarding
house,
so
the
parking
you
know
it's
per
room
it
we
wouldn't
calculate
that's
nothing
to
do
with
with
zoning,
but
when,
at
least
when
I'm
reviewing
this
I'm
looking
at
it
and
saying
you
know,
why
are
there
so
many
parking
spaces
that
boarding
use
at
least
explains
it
to
to
me
and
why
they
would
need
so
many
spaces?
I
I
would
prefer
a
project
with
fewer
parking
spaces,
but
it
it
explains
why
there
are
so
many
yeah.
C
L
The
there
is
that
one
request
for
modification
each
street
that
this
building
faces
has
a
different
requirement
for
the
setbacks,
so
along
500
South.
It
needs
to
be
equal
to
the
average
setback
of
the
entire
block
face,
so
that
includes
from
The
Smith's
gas
station.
Up
to
you
know
the
Liberty
Square
and
up,
and
it
meets
that,
but
along
Green
Street,
it's
there's
only
a
minimum
there's
only
a
maximum
setback,
not
a
minimum.
A
L
B
M
We're
provided
a
contact
at
the
city
who
I
guess
deals
with
art
and
we're
happy
to
reach
out.
We
wanted
to
put
something
on
there
just
to
illustrate
there
will
be
a
mural
and
we
grab
something
that
had
a
tie
to
Salt
Lake
City,
State
Street,
but
I've
also
been
a
part
of
you
know,
a
a
judge
group
on
one
of
the
2100
South
mural
projects,
and
we
have
lists
of
things
and
I.
Think
for
us
on
the
mural.
M
Specifically,
you
know
it'll
be
more
of
a
collaboration
because
it's
it's
a
large
wall.
Once
the
mural
goes
up.
You
know
it's
going
to
be
somewhat
permanent,
we'd
like
to
get
the
right
right
image
up
there.
That
sort
of
you
know
speaks
to
the
the
neighborhood
in
the
historical
context.
So
we're
we're
open
to
all
ideas
on
the
mural
would.
M
Think
the
intent
is
to
add,
you
know
just
some
art
to
the
project.
We
typically
add
art
and
murals
to
all
of
our
projects.
We're
building
in
you
know,
Sugarhouse.
We
have
a
large
mural
and
we
thought
that
was
you
know
a
nice
way
also
to,
in
addition
to
the
large
Courtyard
breakup,
just
to
sort
of
break
up
the
building
and
do
something
different.
B
P
I'm
impressed
with
the
way
this
maintains
the
spirit
of
the
existing
neighborhood
and
creates
a
lot
of
open
space
for
its.
You
know
for
what
it
is
and
parking
open
space
in
the
parking
at
the
same
time,
so
I'm
pretty
impressed
with
that,
but
in
the
as
far
as
I
think
it's
almost
seamless
in
its
driving
past
seventh
East
with
the
colors
and
the
dimensions
of
this
configuration
I
think
that
it'll
be
it'll
feel
like
it
belongs.
P
M
It
will
be,
we've
instructed
our
demo
crew
to
keep
it
store
it
and
we're
going
to
use
it.
You
know
due
to
the
size
of
it
we're
actually
going
to
restore
it
back
to
fendels,
I
guess,
I,
don't
know
if
we
need
permission,
but
the
idea
is
we
have
the
old,
you
know
photographs
of
fendels
and
we
think
that
was
very
interesting
and
what
it
was
at
the
property.
So
we
were
going
to
use
that
as
like
a
piece
in
our
in
our
clubhouse
and
sort
of
like
every
one
of
our
projects.
M
D
Mentioned
that
you've
you've
worked
with
the
owners
of
the
molay
mansion.
Excuse
me:
was
there
anything
and
I
realized
there
there
in
a
very
difficult
position,
given
how
the
world
has
moved
around
them?
Were
there
any
requests
or
considerations
that
you
were
not
able
to
accommodate
within
reason
that
they
had
concerns
about.
M
Well,
I'd
like
to
defer
that
to
them
I'm
sure
the
Murdoch's
will
speak
of
it,
but
the
one
I
know
is:
you
know
the
full
setback
of
our
our
building
face
adjacent
to
them,
pulling
it
all
the
way
back
to
effectively
where
the
face
of
their
building
is
and
their
setback.
That's
not
something
we
can
do
our
accommodation,
which
we
thought
was.
O
B
Q
I'm
pleased
to
hear
that
the
subject
of
the
mural
is
not
Brigham
Young's
backside
in
the
future,
but
murals
are
not
characteristic
of
the
Central
City
neighborhood
and
I
see
no
reason
to
have
one
here.
It's
borrowed
from
other
neighborhoods,
but
it's
not
typical
of
this
neighborhood.
There
are
two
ways
to
look
at
the
proposal
in
front
of
you
and
the
recommendation
from
staff.
One
is
that,
with
only
two
contributory
structures
remaining
on
the
same
block,
it
doesn't
matter
there's
a
lot
of
that
kind
of
thinking.
Q
Going
on
these
days,
the
developers
of
Liberty,
Square
Apartments
could
have
gotten
more
units.
The
stewards
of
the
Malloy
house
could
have
allowed
their
property
to
deteriorate
and
seek
de-listing.
The
city
has
no
obligation
to
support
property
owners
who
acted
consistently
with
the
standards
for
historic
preservation
in
the
past.
A
second
way
of
looking
at
the
proposal
is
that
the
focus
on
the
Block
in
the
transit
Corridor
is
misplaced.
Q
The
focus
here
should
be
on
the
Standalone
historic
district
of
Fort
Trolley
Square,
rescued
from
The
Californians,
who
went
bankrupt
and
less
than
optimal
practices
such
as
sandblasting,
Trolley
Square,
consists
of
two-story
trolling
blind
barns
running
east
to
west
on
the
Block.
I
do
not
see
the
length
of
the
proposed
trolley
North,
as
so
horribly
out
of
scale
as
the
height
and
the
inadequate
step
backs.
Next
to
the
Malloy
house,
Liberty,
Square,
Apartments
and,
most
importantly,
the
entire
block
of
structures
known
as
Trolley
Square.
Q
While
enzyme
floral
and
Malloy
house
represent
the
architectural
diversity
of
the
Central
City
Historic
District,
anyone
would
have
to
say
that
the
most
important
historic
resources
are
on
the
Trolley
Square
Block
in
terms
of
cultural
history,
integrity
and
sheer
number
of
contributory
structures
in
the
dropbox
at
the
last
minute.
As
usual,
I've
looked
at
the
standards
where
I
think,
if
you
focus
on
The
Trolley,
Square
block
you
come
up
with
a
different
conclusion
than
the
staff
did.
Q
B
B
N
Thank
you,
I
did
submit
my
comments
to
Aaron.
They
should
have
been
submitted
when
he
submitted
to
you.
I
do
have
some
major
concerns.
My
name
is
Danelle
Murdock
property
owner
of
the
historic
Hancock
Malloy
Mansion,
my
husband's
sitting.
Next
to
me,
I'd
like
to
thank
thank
you
for
tabling
the
originally
submitted
plans
of
trolley
North
earlier
this
year.
Your
willingness
to
maintain
a
sense
of
human
scale,
limitation
of
massing
and
city
streetscape
is
greatly
appreciated.
Think
about
the
Tariff
for
giving
a
nine
foot.
N
Eight
setback
on
the
north
side
of
trolley
North
and
a
12
foot
and
approximately
44
foot
wide
stepped
back
on
Floors
four
through
eight
on
the
front
side
of
700
East.
These
are
minimum
offerings
that
are
appreciated:
Aaron
Barlow,
Michael,
Augustine,
Craig,
zogby
and
Zach
Clegg
for
their
time
in
helping
review
the
new
trolley
North
plans
once
again,
I
beg
the
Historic
Landmark
Commission.
N
Hancock
Malloy
mansion
from
not
having
an
adjacent
Frontage
to
the
entire
east
side
of
trolling
North
and
not
requiring
us
a
30-foot
ground
level.
Look
around
are
any
level
within
the
historic
man
Hancock
mansion
to
push
for
less
of
an
unrealistic
discrepancy
in
Mass,
height
and
setback,
and
to
once
again
use
the
power.
The
commission
has
to
not
allow
the
historic,
Malloy
Hancock
Mansion,
to
continue
to
be
challenged
so
severely
by
its
existing
30-foot
setback
within
an
extruding
alley
by
both
trolley
North
by
trolley
North,
building
its
mass
to
the
700
East
property
line.
N
Next
to
us
applied
encroachment
and
Street
change
by
Salt
Lake
City
officials
in
the
state
of
Utah
for
a
long
time.
As
you
know,
in
1957
State
Route
made
7th
East
a
non-charming
neighborhood
and
made
it
a
highway.
It
took
out
20
feet.
Grass
verges
and
25
feet,
beautification
strips
with
trees.
This
is
what
Hancock
Mansion
bought
into
it
didn't
buy
into
this,
and
it
didn't
build
a
structure
or
a
support
base
Foundation
to
withstand.
What's
going
to
happen
around
us.
N
N
The
MacArthur
house
was
allowed
to
build
eight
feet,
eight
inches
from
700
East,
the
non-constructed
in
paper
situation
that
is
424.
It
is
approved,
but
it's
not
there
yet
is
10
feet
from
700
East.
The
424
also
has
a
full
10
foot
setback
around
its
entire
entire
structure.
Everywhere
this
today,
Alta
Terra
asks
for
no
setback
on
700,
East
and
Aaron
didn't
clarify
the
setback
required
on
700
East.
He
skipped
it.
What
is
the
set?
What
is
the
contextual
setback
of
700
East
right
now?
N
If
you
approve
this,
you
will
be
approving
the
first
building
along
700
East
in
this
historic
district
and
I
have
traveled
the
entire
length
with
no
setback
on
700
East.
Is
that
a
precedence?
You
want
to
start
because
that's
what's
going
to
happen,
these
massive
buildings
with
Transit
backing
will
change
our
city.
Why
is
there
not
a
contextual
setback
along
700
East
next
to
the
Malloy
Mansion?
N
N
Why
are
the
700
East
property
existing
constructed,
constructed,
constructs
sorry,
contextual,
building
setbacks
being
dismissed
and
or
ignored
by
trolley
North
on
700
East
when
they
talked
about
the
built,
the
houses
before
and
not
being
able
to
potentially
see
what
goes
back
and
Beyond,
our
building
will
not
be
seen
as
you
go
to
the
corner
of
Fort,
South
and
5th
South
across
seventh
East
and
look
West.
You
will
not
even
be
evil
able
to
see
our
house
yeah,
you
won't.
We
will
be
in
an
alleyway.
N
Why
has
the
decision
to
keep
the
building's
column
to
the
edge
of
the
sidewalk
not
considered
hazardous
to
the
driver,
Southbound
on
700
East,
going
40
miles
an
hour
on
what
is
considered
a
state
highway
and
pedestrians
with
obstructive
views
and
turnouts?
This
Still
Remains,
as
beautiful
as
the
building
is
I'm
excited
about
the
beauty
of
their
building.
However,
I'm
not
excited
to
look
out
my
window
straight
up
at
80
feet
that
does
not
set
step
back
further
on
our
north
side,
where
they
have
no
obligation.
N
How
will
trolley
North
be
constructed
on
its
700
East
Side,
without
closing
the
sidewalks
and
blocking
pedestrian
traffic
for
expensive
expansive
lengths
of
time,
as
it
will
take
a
couple
years
to
construct?
How
do
we
even
walk
out
from
our
house
and
walk
to
Whole
Foods
on
the
other
side?
How
do
we
walk
out
of
our
house
and
walk
to
the
gas
station
or
to
Trader
Joe's?
Our
only
option
is
to
walk
out
into
7th
East
and
tell
some
sort
of
New.
York
style
barrier
is
built
with
a
walkway.
N
Why
is
it
acceptable
to
place
five
foot
square
columns
in
the
way
of
pedestrians
on
700
East?
This
is
going
to
be
a
foot
traffic
area.
The
sidewalk
is
six
foot
five
inches
the
area
between
their
arcade
is
five
feet:
five
inches,
it's
a
full
foot
less
than
a
six
foot
sidewalk.
So
this
isn't
a
wide
space
we're
talking
about.
N
If
the
Historic
Landmark
committee
approves
this
building
plan,
won't
it
be
setting
a
new
precedence.
I
mentioned
this
before
for
larger
buildings,
to
have
the
option
to
build
directly
on
any
given
Street
facing
property
line.
The
historic
Hancock,
Malloy
Mansion
continues
to
see
light
and
solar
access
as
being
an
issue
from
Trolley
North
in
the
Historic
Landmark
commission
meeting
in
December,
it
was
mentioned,
there's
no
laws
and
we've
already
discussed
in
past
meetings.
How
absolutely
disappointing
and
disheartening
this
is
I
did
bring
a
light
study,
their
light
study
very
lightly
Grays.
N
What
the
shade
is.
So
when
you
look
at
it,
it
looks
like
we
get
sun
most
of
the
time
and
I
know
this
is
difficult
to
see,
but
on
the
top
is
spring
and
in
Spring
at
9
00
a.m.
On
the
far
left
corner,
I
know
it's
hard
for
you,
Carlton
I'm.
Sorry,
we
get
full
sun
on
the
top
of
the
house
by
the
time
it's
noon,
there's
not
even
a
quarter
of
the
house
in
Sun
and
that
sun
doesn't
come
through
any
of
our
windows.
We
will
get
that
sun
through
reflection
on
424.
N
After
that
that
spring
all
the
top
row
summer,
we
will
have
sun
through
June
and
July.
Thank
heavens
Autumn
same
thing
as
spring.
We're
only
going
to
have
two
months,
barely
two
months
of
Sun,
so
any
setback
any
step
back
means
maybe
another
day
of
sun
for
our
building
another
two
hours
in
the
day
of
some
for
our
building
anything
I,
don't
know
if
you've
ever
sat
in
a
building
that
is
15
to
20
feet
away,
that
has
a
wall
of
bricks
straight
up,
80
feet.
N
A
N
Let's
see
in
the
plans
I've
noted
and
they
fixed,
which
is
nice,
that
they
offered
the
shadow
study
up
and
they
fixed
their
landscape
plan,
which
is
great.
But
what
about
the
zoning
plan
in
the
case
of
their
zoning?
It
says
they
meet
it
by
meeting
the
average
setback
of
the
street
of
700
East.
We
just
talked
about
this,
but
wouldn't
the
average
setback
be
between
55
feet,
11
inches,
which
is
Modern
Display
and
eight
feet,
eight
inches,
which
is
MacArthur
house,
putting
it
20
feet
back.
That
would
be
the
average
setback.
N
I
mean
and
the
other
thing
that
it
says
is
it
also
talks
about
in
the
in
the
design
guidelines.
It
speaks
to
the
idea
of
these
being
constructed.
Buildings
constructed
existing
buildings
and
all
we've
heard
is
424
got
this
and
424
got
that
and
it's
unfortunate
what
424
got.
We
did
not
know
what
to
say
to
you
with
424.
I
was
working
in
Los
Angeles
on
424..
N
My
husband
sat
here:
frustrated
no
City
help,
no
information,
m424
was
passed
and
it
was
passed
because
it
was
passed
before
when
there
was
a
driveway
next
to
the
MacArthur
house.
This
put
a
wall
straight
up
against
our
property
and
scale
of
design
and
design.
I
beg
the
Historic
Landmark
commission
to
see
that
the
fifth
Southwest
facing
mass
of
trolley
North
is
currently
213
feet.
They
talked
about
the
271
feet.
They
still
again.
Other
people
have
done
it.
That's
great.
Why
do
multiple
poor
decisions
make
a
right?
Why
does
greed
win
the
day?
N
Why
does
does
trolley
North
continue
to
need
327
parking
stalls
when
there
are
none
required?
They
could
use
that
space
to
put
some
of
this
housing.
They
could
add
some
step
backs
further
up
and
let
the
mass
go
back,
there's
so
many
things
that
could
happen
with
this.
With
this
building
trolley
North
has
been
given
the
bonus
points.
N
Why
aren't
I
not
taking
advantage
of
the
full
85
feet
and
building
more
than
the
seven
feet
above
the
podium
build
because
it
would
cost
more
money,
of
course,
so
we're
going
to
build
out
as
wide
as
we
can
with
the
Lesser
materials
again,
I
think
trolley
North
from
the
nine
foot.
Eight
inch
setback
on
the
North
side,
but
what
I
am
going
to
say
to
you
is
that
is
a
Tit
for
Tat
move.
N
I'm
trolley
North
is
a
Transit
oriented
development
and
has
received
many
benefits
because
of
this
they've
given
up
55
parking
spaces
and
zero
housing
units,
their
plan
still
has
382
stalls.
Excuse
me,
I
think
that's
incorrect
plan
for
a
building
that
requires
none
I,
think
it's
327..
Could
the
space
be
better
used?
Why
are
the
residents
of
both
Green
Street
and
Hancock
Malloy
Mansion
still
last
to
look
straight
up?
81
foot
feet.
Walls?
N
Why
does
trolley
North
continue
to
need
two
parking
spaces
for
every
student's
housing
building
unit
Why
does
trolley
North
Believe
by
offering
a
color-shifting
brick
that
that
eases
this
Behemoth
structure
when
you're
standing
right
next
to
it
I
continue
to
ask
the
Historic
Landmark
commission
to
help
us
hold
these
developers
account
or
accountable.
No
matter
the
plans
approved
when
trolley,
North's
developers
or
Architects
are
asked
questions
that
they
don't
know
how
to
change
the
plans.
N
They
won't
say
this
because
they
do
know
how
to
change
the
plans
and
we've
talked
about
that,
but
they
may
say
it's
a
Monumental
task.
It's
overwhelming
it
could
be
a
financial
burden,
but
what
they
bring.
You
today
is
a
piece
of
paper:
it
is
not
real
until
it's
billed
and
these
plans
can
be
changed
and
you
can
take
action
today.
N
N
B
B
B
The
scale
is
off,
setbacks
are
nothing
but
greedy
and
are
not
contextual,
I,
understand
the
need
for
new
residences,
slash
density,
however,
at
what
expense
the
trolley
North
development
is
a
perfect
opportunity
for
a
large
unit
building
to
find
a
solution
that
highlights
its
relationship
to
the
Malloy
mansion
and
not
bury
it.
I
challenge
the
hlc
to
look
at
National,
Park,
Service
guideline
guidance
for
construction
in
a
historic
context.
This
proposed
design
is
not
it
and
then
from
Anna
Foster
in
opposition
to
the
project
with
a
location
directly
next
to
a
historic
building.
B
B
R
Let
me
go
first:
okay,
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
hlc,
my
name
is
Bruce
beard,
I'm
counsel,
for
the
project,
I'm
going
to
be
extraordinarily
brief,
I'm
going
to
discuss
only
five
issues
and
on
several
of
them
we're
actually
going
to
a
couple
of
we're
going
to
at
least
agree
with
the
Mansion.
We
are
perfectly
willing
to
have
a
condition
of.
A
R
We
comply
with
all
applicable
rules
regarding
the
construction,
stability
related
to
the
property
next
door
and
doing
what
is
required
by
law
and
best
practices
to
ensure
that,
to
the
maximum
extent
possible
construction
of
trolley
North
has
absolutely
no
impact.
That's
why
we've
taken
all
these
detailed
responses
to
make
sure
it
works
and
we're
perfectly
willing
to
continue
to
do
that.
R
Second
question:
regarding
physical
access
to
the
property
during
construction
of
this
building
and
for
that
matter,
station
424,
both
UDOT
and
the
city,
have
dealt
with
street
closure
issues
for
construction
of
new
buildings.
Thousands
literally
thousands
of
times
both
of
those
entities
have
rules
and
regulations
for
how
you
deal
with
it
on
an
interim
basis
and
again
we're
perfectly
willing
to
have
a
condition
imposed
on
the
approval
of
complying
with
those
legal
requirements.
R
Absolutely
no
issue.
Regarding
that
the
second
issue:
the
third
issue
is
the
seventh
East
setbacks.
I
would
suggest
that
the
question
that
was
raised
by
the
Malloy
Mansion
is:
where
did
those
setback
requirements
come
from
is
relatively
simply
answered.
The
city
council
made
that
decision
as
a
matter
of
policy
when
it
adopted
the
new
transport
GSA
Zone,
it's
applicable
to
this
property.
We're
not
asking
you
to
set
any
different
precedent
than
what
the
city
council
specifically
said
was
okay.
R
So
that's
that
concerning
the
statements
about
how
horrible
this
might
be
to
Liberty,
Square
and
Trolley,
Square
I
know
for
the
record
that
neither
Liberty
Square
nor
Trolley
Square
has
any
opposition
here
on
the
record
to
this
proposal.
I'm
going
to
assume
that
both
of
those
entities,
since
they
are
smart
and
got
noticed
of
this
project.
If
they
had
any
disagreements
with
this
project,
they
would
have
raised
those
disagreements
here
to
you.
They
did
not.
Therefore,
I
suggest
that
the
concerns
expressed
allegedly
on
their
behalf
are
without
Merit.
R
Etc
that
was
litigated
through
an
appeals
officer
if
I
remember
correctly
and
I
believe
it
went
to
district
court
and
I
believe
that
the
district
court
sided
with
the
city's
position
that
there
was
no
such
easement
for
light
and
air
I
I
could
be
wrong
on
that.
But
I,
don't
think
that
I
am
so.
We
believe
that
those
address
the
primary
legal
issues,
I
think
staff
did
an
excellent
job.
R
In
its
analysis,
my
Mike
is
going
to
talk
about
a
few
others,
I
think
parking
and-
and
maybe
one
others,
but
I
did
want
to
talk
about
one
thing.
Sometimes,
when
people
are
opposing
a
project,
they
just
toss
off
a
comment
and
hope
nobody
notices
in
this
case.
The
comment
was
that
the
project
is
being
built
with
I
think
the
word
was
quote
lesser
materials,
close
quote.
R
That
is
simply
not
the
case.
The
architect
here
is
designing
this
with
the
highest
end
materials
that
are
reasonably
built
a
reasonably
usable
we've.
We
have
a
pallet,
we
could
get
a
pallet
if
we
needed
to,
but
you've
seen
them
specify.
The
architect
is
here
to
explain
the
quality
the
city
has
seen
the
quality.
This
is
a
high
quality
four-sided
architectural
project,
which
has,
as
far
as
I,
can
tell
a
total
of
one
opponent,
who
owns
a
historical
building
that
you'll
see
for
approximately
five
seconds
as
your
drive
down
7th
East
at
speed.
M
Yeah
I'd
like
to
address
just
a
couple
of
items:
one
of
them
is
parking
and
while
the
TSA
Zone
does
allow
for
a
minimum
of
zero
parking,
it
also
permits,
in
our
case
a
maximum
of
around
570
to
580
parking
spaces.
So
you
know
why
we
appreciate-
and
you
know
hopefully
one
day
we
get
to
a
point.
You
know
where
parking
is
you
know,
can
be
reduced
to
zero
in
most
locations.
B
L
You
I
I
want
to
just
apologize
if
I
went
if
I
skipped
over
the
700
East
setback
requirements,
I've
got
them
pulled
up
right
here.
It's
not
listed
as
a
number
of
streets
in
the
TS
hazoning
District,
but
it
is
among
all
other
streets,
and
at
least
50
percent
of
the
street
facing
building
facade
shall
be
within
five
feet
of
the
front
or
Corner
side
yard
property
lines.
So.
L
It's
all
we
can
call
this
a
corner
side
yard.
It's
addressed
on
500
South
yeah,
but
it
the
standard
is
still
at
least
50
percent
of
the
street.
Facing
building
facade
shall
be
within
five
feet
of
that
front,
corner
side,
property
line,
and
this
proposal
meets
that
standard.
The
the
standards
promote
that
close
to
the
development
close
to
the
property
line.
L
B
B
F
B
B
B
And
a
central
city
is
typically
where,
where
that
would
be
desired
and
placing
it
near
Transit
is
a
pretty
Progressive
idea
that
I
think
would
also
be
desired,
but
it
is
obviously
a
historic
district
with
not
a
lot
of
in-period
development
of
the
scale.
Trolley
Square
itself
is
moderately
large,
but
definitely
not
as
tall
or
voluminous.
C
I
think
the
problem
here
is
is
that
the
I
think
the
standards
are
being
met
is
his
zoning
requirements,
except
for
that
213
foot,
facade
versus
200.
Everything
else
seems
to
be
complying,
but
the
the
building's
just
too
damn
big
and
it
it
just
doesn't
quite
feel
right.
You
know
I
keep
harping
on
the
parking
and
the
developer.
Has
you
know
a
a
rationale
for
why
he's
giving
as
much
as
he
does
but
I
think
that's
a
little
bit
archaic.
C
Students
going
to
most
universities,
don't
necessarily
expect
to
have
parking
a
way
of
reducing
Mass,
yet
giving
the
income
of
keeping
the
them
many
dwelling
units
reduce
the
amount
of
parking
which
kind
of
drives
what
happens
above
but
I,
don't
know
where
we
have
any
teeth
to
push
that,
but
I'd
like
to
see
the
building
Mass
reduced
to
some
extent,
which
is
a
competing
interest
with
trying
to
get
density
and
housing,
which
is
necessary
too.
So
this.
C
D
On
the
other
hand,
we're
trying
to
be
Progressive
and
have
these
TSA
zones
and
focus
more
on
use
the
use
of
mass
transportation,
so
yeah
I
struggle
with
the
number
of
parking
spaces
in
in
the
building
as
well.
If
there
weren't
that
many
parking
spaces
could
something
else
be
done,
then
to
modify
the
mass?
Could
there
be
something
to
give
the
the
Mansion
a
little
more
Daylight
a
few
more
days
of
the
year
if
fewer
parking
spaces
resulted
in
a
modification
of
of
the
the
structure
so
but
I
think.
D
F
C
E
Just
a
few
comments
it
just
just
in
terms
of
parking.
If
there
were
too
few
cars,
there
would
be
a
lot
of
other
cars
parked
at
Trader
Joe's
at
the
gas
station
on
the
street
at
Trolley
Square,
because
they're
there
in
in
designing
comparable
residential
units.
You
know
the
numbers
of
you
know
0.85
to
1
to
unit.
Sometimes
it
it
it's
not
quite
right
or
not,
not
quite
accurate.
In
terms
of
you
know,
it
may
be
a
two
bedroom.
E
So
that's
two
cars,
maybe
it's
just
one
car,
but
you
know
it
so
those
numbers
are
are
always
and
there's
there's
latitude
and
you
know
if
I
understand
the
zoning
correctly,
it
could
be
as
little
as
zero
and
as
many
as
500.
So
the
number
is
somewhere.
You
know,
somewhere
in
between
it's
higher
a
little
bit
higher
than
half
so
it
you
know
it
meets
the
requirements.
You
know
it
could
be
this.
It
could
be
that,
but
it's
right
in
the
middle
I
I
understand
the
just
just
a
comment.
E
You
know
it
can
it's
a
big
building,
I
mean
there's,
there's
no
doubt
about
it.
It's
a
big
building,
but
there's
there's
quite
a
bit
of
articulation,
particularly
down
low,
where
you're
going
to
see
it
from
cars,
it's
a
little
bit
less
as
you
go.
You
know
up
the
building
when,
when
the
applicant
was
here
previously,
we
asked
a
lot
of
them
and
from
what
I
can
see
is
there's
they've
they've
made
a
number
of
of
changes.
E
You
know.
Could
there
have
been
more
changes?
I'd,
probably,
but
you
know,
there's
they
they've
done
the
streetscape
study.
There
was
a
shade
study
and
there's
no
doubt
that
this
building
is
going
to
be
that
or
not
this
building,
but
the
historic
home
is
going
to
be
in
shade.
I
think
the
the
plan
accuracy
was
questioned
and
I
think
the
new
rendering
shows
it
appropriately.
E
There's
there's
been
a
there's,
been
a
lot
of
changes
and
I.
Think
it's
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
I'm
not
going
to
comment
on
the
mural
that
you
know
that.
That's
that
that's
a
part
of
the
work-
that's
just
so
I
mean
those.
Those
are
the
comments
that
I
had
you
know
concerning
I
I,
keep
hearing
the
term,
contextual
setback,
setbacks
are
set
by
zoning
and
it
it
has
a
zoning
change
from
you
know,
100
years
ago,
50
years
ago
it
has,
and
so
what
what
was
was
appropriate.
E
E
So
you
know
I
I
I
am
curious
about
access
to
Trader
Joe's
in
in
the
gas
station
gas
station
I'm
not
too
concerned
about,
because
if
you're
gonna
drive
there
it,
that
is
a
good
question
to
me.
How
do
you
access
Trader
Joe's,
you
know:
do
you
have
to
go
around
the
block
or
is
there?
Is
there
a
way
if
you
live
there,
you
know
to
go
West
as
opposed
to
South
West
North,
and
then
you
know
it's
a
good
question.
E
B
P
So
be
in
opposition,
contrary
goals
at
the
same
time,
is
we
want
to
make
a
walkable
Transit
friendly,
dense
livable
place,
but
we
can't
build
that
on
the
sidewalk,
because
if
you
want
us
to
walk,
then
you
know
having
having
not
enough
room
between
the
road
and
the
building
is,
is
taking
this?
That's
public
space
and
they're.
P
C
C
L
A
O
B
O
J
J
J
This
is
the
challenge
that
we
run
into
all
the
time,
particularly
in
these
situations
where
there
is
a
little
nugget
of
history
that
is
valuable
and
needs
to
be
preserved,
but
it's
not
surrounded
by
other
little
nuggets
that
create
a
neighborhood
I
I
was
the
one
that
I
think
was
referenced
before.
What
discussing
about
the
historical
context
of
the
block
and
this
particular
area
and
other
than
this
particular
building
that
is
essentially
gone
other
than
Trolley
Square
nearby,
which
is
a
preserved
block.
J
I
wish
it
was
different
and
the
situation
was
different,
but
practically
speaking,
I
don't
think
that
that
alone
can
be
the
determinant
here.
I
do
think
that
they
have
made
certain
concessions
that
help
the
situation.
We
don't
have
a
blank
wall,
as
was
shown
in
some
of
the
original
renderings.
That's
nine
feet
away
from
the
building.
J
J
P
I
know
that
this
is
the
last
of
its
kind
on
the
Block
and,
and
that
makes
it
even
more
precious
to
me.
There's
a
couple
blocks
that
have
similar
little
Canyons
of
what
it
used
to
be
and
I
I
really
value
those
personally
for
what
kind
of
scale
that
it
creates,
and
the
scale
is,
is
my
is
my
problem
with
the
with
this
design
and
I.
Don't
know
that
we
do
have
the.
If
that
is
our
business,
but
I
it
is
they're
using
more
space
than
than
their
fair
share
and
I.
P
And
I
just
think
that
we
need
to
make
it
if
we're
trying
to
create
a
walkable
thing.
Here,
though,
I
don't
think
that
that's
being
done
with
what
you're
expecting
all
of
The
Pedestrian
and
bicycle
traffic
to
negotiate
on
postage
stamp
sites
of
a
piece
of
piece
of
sidewalk
I,
don't
think
that
that
meets
anyone's
needs.
D
To
avoid
it,
no
I'm
not
trying
to
avoid
I,
just
it's
a
frustrating
situation,
because
you
know,
as
Michaela
has
has
reminded
us.
You
know
we
we
have.
We
have
constraints
here,
and
if
the
city
council
has
approved
these
owning
guidelines
in
these
districts,
then
I
mean
we
are
bound
by
those
trying
to
be
Progressive
trying
to
have
a
more
walkable
city
using
mass
transportation.
D
C
Yeah
one
one
more
thought
you
know
perhaps
as
a
way
to
ameliorate
the
problem,
a
little
bit,
that
the
developer
could
offer
to
move
the
Manson
from
this
location
to
a
more
more
compatible
setting,
buy
them
out,
move
it
and
put
it
on
a
lot
somewhere
else.
And
then
you
could
do
whatever
you
wanted
on
that
additional
piece
of
land.
B
Any
other
comments,
I
tend
to
agree
with
Amanda
I.
Think
we
everyone
at
this
desk
really
cares
about
our
City's
architectural
history,
or
else
we
wouldn't
be
on
the
store,
clam
art,
commission,
but
there's
only
so
much.
We
can
do
for
projects
that
are
outside
of
the
boundaries
of
a
project
that
we're
considering
and
the
the
zoning
changes
were
decided
at
the
city
council
level
and
those
are
what
they
are.
B
J
J
J
Place
unusual
conditions
on
this
particular
building
and
this
structure
with
one
contributing
property
adjacent
to
it
and
no
other
context
on
that
block.
So
yeah
the
city
council
has
said
that
and
yes,
we,
we
should
take
that
into
account,
but
I
don't
think
that
alone
is
the
driving
decision
here.
For
the
commission.
E
Oh
John,
just
just
a
comment
and,
along
with
what
Carlton
just
said,
I
think
we're
all
on
this
Commission,
because
you
know
of
our
love
of
historic
structures
and
wanting
to
to
maintain
that
fabric
in
in
our
city,
I
think
the
the
bright
spot.
If
we
look
at
it
is
that,
along
this,
you
know
this
this
stretch
from
500
to
600
South.
E
You
know,
there's,
there's
a
remnant
of
what
used
to
be
and
I'm
I'm
glad
that
that
the
building
is
still
there
and
and
it's
it's
a
it's
a
remembrance
of
of
what
it
used
to
be
I.
Think
there's
a
lot
of
other
examples
in
this
city.
Unfortunately,
but
I
I
at
least
I'm
I'm,
happy
that
that
that
the
Mansion
is
is
there
I
think
as
you're
walking
and
I've
I've
walked
it
I've
biked
it
and
I've
driven
it,
and
there
are
three
completely
different
experiences
and
I.
E
A
E
G
J
Hadn't
planned
on
it,
but
I
guess
I
will
consistent
with
staff
recommendations,
so
I
would
make
the
motion
to
approve
the
staff
recommended
conditions
based
on
the
information
presented
and
discussed
I
move
that
the
commission
approved
this
application
based
on
staff's
recommendation,
which
includes
the
following
conditions:
final
review
of
the
plans
is
delegated
to
staff,
in
addition
to
showing
compliance
with
zoning
regulations
not
modified.
Through
this
request,
the
plans
shall
show
compliance
with
new
construction
standards,
particularly
C3
lighting.
B
A
F
J
Emotion,
yeah,
if
I
may
so,
I
made
a
motion
based
on
the
the
motion
sheet.
I
think
if
I
interpret
Mike's
comment
or
question
correctly,
is
whether
I'd
be
willing
to
amend
that
motion
with
some
verbiage
that
would
strongly
recommend
or
encourage
a
different
planting
other
than
the
ivy
on
the
north
side
of
that,
in
order
to
help
ensure
longevity
of
the
the
visual
obstruction
and
and
I
I,
don't
know
that
we
can
require
that,
but
I
can
certainly
I
would
certainly
be
amenable
to
strongly
encouraging
it.
J
J
So
I
I
would
continue
with
the
previous
motion,
but
I
would
amend
that
by
adding
a
second
condition
for
staff
review
and
that
we
strongly
recommend
a
different
Landscaping
approach
on
the
North
side.
That
would
incorporate
some
sort
of
call
them
their
tree
or
something
other
that
would
be
more
resistant
or
party.
C
F
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
L
I,
don't
want
to
be
hunched
over
the
whole
time,
so
I'm
going
to
move
the
microphone
closer
to
me
good
evening.
Commissioners.
Thank
you
for
your
patience.
This
is
a
related
requests
to
what
you
just
reviewed.
On
top
of
the
sitla
building.
There
is
a
there's,
a
cellular,
Wireless
telecommunication
facility
on
the
top
of
the
sitla
building
and
between
demolition
of
that
building
and
completion
of
the
trolley
North
development.
L
L
So
just
an
idea
of
what's
going
on
the
temporary
Tower
location,
it
would
be
sitting
on
a
stair
tower
that
is
part
of
this
proposal,
part
of
the
trolley
North
proposal
as
a
temporary
facility
as
an
interim
facility
in
between
Demolition
and
construction.
So
here's
here
are
the
plans
sort
of
showing
what's
going
on
this
stair
Tower.
This
cast
in
place
concrete,
would
eventually
be
incorporated
into
the
trolley
North
development.
It's
part
of
that
building
and
yeah.
L
E
Your
I
just
had
a
question:
I
built
a
residential
Tower
in
different
part
of
the
country,
and
there
were
a
lot
of
questions
concerning
the
health
of
residents
below
this
I'm.
Just
asking
a
question
just
to
make
certain
that
that
we're
not
opening
ourselves
up
to
to
the
residents
then
saying
you
know,
I'm
I
was
fine
until
I
moved
in
and
now
I'm
not
is
there?
Is
there
any
kind
of
data
that
that
you
have?
That
would
allay
that
that
those
kinds
of
fears,
I'd.
S
Like
to
say,
thank
you
all
for
your
time.
First
of
all,
to
start
with
and
I,
don't
personally
have
any
data.
The
Federal,
Communications
Commission
regulates
cell
phone
towers,
so
exposure
levels
from
cell
phone
towers
must
comply
with
the
FCC
radio
frequency
radiation
exposure
guidelines
which
were
developed
to
protect
the
public
from
RF
related
health
risks.
So,
with
this
being
regulated
by
the
FCC
and
not
local
jurisdiction,
you
would
need
to
defer
to
the
city's
attorneys
as
far
as
your
concerns
so.
B
L
L
So
they
begin
with
demolition
of
the
parking
structure
and
Big
Daddy's
Pizza
the
construction
of
the
cast
in
place,
stair
Tower
and
the
CMU
structures
that
will
house
the
electrical
equipment
for
both
providers,
at
which
point
that
antenna
and
the
electrical
equipment
will
be
moved
to
the
the
stair
Tower
and
the
CMU
structures,
and
then
they
will
demolish
the
sitla
building,
and
then
construction
will
happen
around
this
cast
in
place.
Stair
Tower
that
will
eventually
be
incorporated
into
the
structure
they
will.
Then
you
know
later
on.
B
L
L
Staff
is
recommending
a
condition
in
which
all
interested
parties
enter
into
in
a
development
agreement
to
ensure
timely
removal
of
the
antenna
and
to
accommodate
the
possibility
of
the
developer,
walking
away
with
a
half
finished
structure
and
what
that
will
look
like,
so
that
it
does
not
remain
in
that
state
for
an
extended
period
of
time.
That
requires
a
little
bit
of
finagling.
That's
why
staff
is
recommending
that,
for
that
other
application,
that
development
agreement-
and
that
would
be
discussed
among
attorneys.
B
B
It's
just
a
part
of
the
construction
of
a
project
that
we
just
approved
like
what
makes
this
different
than
why
don't
we
have
to
approve
the
stair
Towers
at
the
Elks
building.
You
know,
like
other
I,
shouldn't
name
a
different
development,
but
other
developments.
Why
have
we
not
had
to
approve
the
stair
Towers.
L
That's
a
good
question
are
currently
our
wireless
telecommunication
facilities.
Zoning
requirements
do
not
have
interim
during
construction
allowances
that
would
permit
a
structure
of
a
permanent
structure
of
that
height
during
development.
In
my
per
I
mean
not
permanent.
Permit
a
structure
to
be
constructed
there
that
location
that
would
then
be
taken
down.
This
was
sort
of
the
process
that
worked
out
for
all
parties.
You
know
it's
not
just
the
city
and
the
developers,
the
city,
the
developer
and
two
different
cellular
providers
with
different
priorities.
S
B
E
John
I,
don't
have
any
questions.
This
seems
pretty
straightforward,
it's
something
that
was
there.
It's
been
relocated
that
you
know
I
I
was
concerned
that
that
just
we
didn't
want
to
approve
anything
that
somehow
would
come
back
to
the
commission
because
it
did
meet
safety
requirements,
but
it
appears
that
that's
not
an
issue,
so
I
I
don't
have
any
questions.