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Salt Lake City Planning Commission Meeting - 07/27/2022
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A
A
A
A
F
A
And
I
will
also
vote
yes,
so
that
motion
passes
with
six,
yes
and
three
abstentions:
we'll
move
on
to
a
report
of
the
chair
and
the
vice
chair.
So
I
just
want
to
briefly
acknowledge
that
about
an
hour
and
a
half
ago-
or
maybe
two
hours
ago,
I
received
a
request
to
change
the
order
of
the
agenda
to
switch
out
the
ballpark
area
plan
to
the
1550
main
street.
A
But
the
reason
given
the
reason
given
made
it
sound
to
me
that
there
was
this
idea
that
if
the
ballpark
area
that
we
were
going
to
decide
on
the
ballpark
area
plan,
and
then
that
would
influence
the
rezone,
which
is
not
correct.
We
don't
make
the
final
decision
on
small
area
plans
we'll
be
giving
a
recommendation,
and
we
cannot
use
any
of
the
small
area
plan
in
ballpark
to
evaluate
that
application.
A
D
A
E
A
A
A
Okay
and
then
I'll
follow
up
to
I
mentioned
to
levi.
That
nick
spoke
to
me
monday
yesterday,
tuesday,
about
your
request
for
rv
ordinance
and
enforcement,
and
us
learning
about
that
and
he'll
be
inviting
the
code
enforcement
officer
to
give
us
an
education
during
the
five
to
5
30
time
period,
some
point
in
august,
but
I
don't
have
a
date
so
just
so,
we
all
don't
think
that
was
ignored
either.
A
E
Yep
I
have
a
topic
in
the
previous
meeting.
I
had
brought
up
the
salt
lake
city,
housing
and
neighborhood
development
housing
program
for
first-time
homebuyers,
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
people
are
not
aware
of
it
so
earlier,
prior
to
this
meeting,
I
was
talking
to
the
director
of
that
program
and
he
would
welcome
the
opportunity
to
come
and
kind
of
share
the
program
with
us.
I
know
the
program
has
been
going
for
a
long
time.
I
want
to
say
over
30
years
now
and
it'd
be
helpful
for
us
to
know
more
about
it.
A
H
A
I
I
I
I
The
subject.
Property
is
marked
in
red
there.
The
applicant
is
looking
to
come
off
the
alley
at
the
back
for
the
parking,
although
they
do
have.
The
on
street
parking
staff
is
recommending
approval.
Based
on
the
information
findings
listed
in
the
staff
report,
I
did
add
one
condition
of
approval
because
at
the
time
they
had
not
submitted
for
building
permit,
but
they
have
put
in
for
building
permit
and,
like
I
said
it
is
a
prefab
construction,
so
it
will
just
be
put
in
place
that
they
get
a
demolition
permit
for
the
existing
garage.
I
This
is
the
alleyway
in
the
back,
the
subject
property.
Sorry
subject:
property
is
here
to
the
left,
but,
like
I
said
it
is
a
usable
drivable
alleyway,
so
most
likely
they
will
clean
it
up
and
and
do
the
parking
in
the
back,
and
there
was
a
site
plan
in
your
packet
that
showed
that
it
was
a
more
designer
site
plan
that
showed
the
parking
in
the
rear.
I
I
This
is
this
will
face
west
this
top
elevation.
This
will
be
the
elevation
scene
from
the
east
from
the
neighbor
to
the
east,
and
then
this
is
what
the
left
elevation
is
oop.
Sorry,
the
left
elevation
is
what
the
house,
the
main
house,
will
see,
and
then
the
two
windowed
side
is
going
to
be
on
that
alleyway.
I
And,
like
I
said,
the
applicant
does
have
a
really
detailed
good
presentation.
So
I'm
going
to
let
her
come
up
and
and
see
that.
But
to
really
reiterate,
we
do
recommend
approval
with
that.
One
condition:
okay,
and
if
you
chose
to
change
that,
I
think
we'd
be
okay
and
not
have
that
condition
on
because
they
are
going
to
pursue
a
demolition
permit
straight
away.
But
that's
up
to
you
guys.
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J
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L
These
are
all
the
wonderful
reasons
that
salt
lake
city
has
implemented
the
use
of
accessory
dwelling
units
to
create
new
housing
for
more
housing
units
for
a
more
efficient
use
of
what
is
already
in
stock.
As
far
as
inventory
for
housing,
families
that
are
seeking
smaller
households,
families
that
want
to
remain
in
their
neighborhoods
to
provide
affordable
housing
and
then
to
support
the
infrastructure
and
sustainability
that
is
already
in
place.
L
L
We
actually
make
I
I'm
a
representative
for
the
home
building
company
stackhomes.
We
actually
make
our
homes
out
of
recycled
shipping
containers,
so
they
are
a
more
environmental
build
than
traditional
construction.
We
use
high
quality
materials
that
you'll
see
in
your
standard
primary
dwellings
such
as
quartz,
countertops,
stainless
steel
appliances,
hardy
board,
siding
pergo
flooring
because
we
build
them
in
a
build
facility
that
is
located
in
salt
lake
city.
We
spend
one
less
time.
Building
our
build
time
is
about
an
average
of
150
days,
and
none
of
that
is
done
on
site.
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So,
instead
of
impacting
the
neighborhood
the
area,
the
neighbors
for
upwards
of
four
months,
we
have
that
all
contained
in
a
building
that
is
located
just
west
of
here
that
results
in
less
pollution,
we're
not
driving
people
to
the
site
and
back.
We
don't
have
to
throw
away
any
materials,
they're
upcycled
in
the
build
facility,
and
again
we
have
less
noise
and
just
less
impact
on
the
on
the
neighborhood.
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L
So
I
mentioned
that
they're
prefabricated-
this
is
just
a
couple
images
of
the
unit
that
will
be
hopefully
going
in
perry's
backyard.
Like
I
said
we
build
them
out
of
single-use
shipping
containers.
These
only
transported
dry
goods.
They
were
only
used
once
so
they
are
a
very
clean,
very
sustainable,
very
environmental
frame
to
use
for
a
house.
L
This
is
what
it
will
look
like
when
it
is
ready
to
depart
from
the
facility
we
build
them
to
about
95
completion,
and
then
we
ship
them
on
individual
semi
trucks.
So
you'll
see
here.
These
are
two
individual
shipping
containers.
They
are
split
essentially
put
on
a
truck,
so
we
don't
have
any
additional
impact
on
the
neighborhood
having
to
do
wide-sized
transportation.
L
L
So
again,
you
know
the
purpose
is
mostly
what
has
been
put
in
place.
The
reasonings
have
been
put
in
place
by
the
legislation.
This
is
going
to
going
into
these
guys
retirement.
They
have
an
option
in
the
backyard
if
they
so
choose
to
have
a
smaller
single
level
living
for
when
things
might
get
more
challenging
later
on
in
life.
Their
home
is
currently
three
stories.
It's
almost
2300
square
feet,
it's
a
lot
to
manage
in
general
and
then
getting
older.
L
It's
going
to
give
them
a
great
opportunity
to
stay
in
the
same
community,
stay
on
the
same
property,
the
same
home
that
they've
invested
in
for
years,
and
then
it
will
also
give
them
an
opportunity
to
have
a
rental
for
their
grown
children.
Should
they
want
to
move
back
home
while
they're,
you
know
entering
the
workforce
pursuing
their
degrees,
whatever
it
may
be,
and
then
again
you
know
just
renting
out
either
the
adu
or
the
main
house
as
a
long-term
rental,
just
to
further
provide
inventory
for
the
community.
L
L
This
is
being
taken
from
the
alleyway.
This
is
the
back
of
the
house
here
there
is
a
fence,
and
then
this
is
the
area
that
we
propose
be
utilized
for
parking,
and
then
this
is
where
the
adu
will
be
another
shot
of
the
alley,
and
then
this
is
a
shot
being
taken
towards
the
alley.
This
is
where
the
adu
is
proposed
to
go,
and
then,
in
conjunction
with
building
the
adu,
amy
and
perry
are
also
going
through
an
extensive
landscaping
project.
So
we
are
going
to
increase
the
amount
of
green
space.
L
L
A
A
A
C
I
saw
that
they
did
not
write
a
letter,
so
I
thought
I'd
say
something.
I
think
this
looks
like
a
good
project
and
I'm
really
glad
for
the
suggestion
to
put
the
parking
along
the
alley
or
entering
from
the
alley,
because
I
probably
drive
that
17
south
five
or
six
times
a
week.
People
go
fast,
it's
pretty
narrow.
There
really
is
barely
a
parking
place
there,
because
everybody's
already
turning
to
go
left
on
9th
or
right
on
9th
east.
So
I
prefer
the
alley
vacation.
A
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Okay,
thank
you.
Okay,
based
on
the
information
and
the
staff
report,
the
information
presented
in
the
input
received
during
the
public
hearing.
I
mean
that
the
planning
commission
approved
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
conditional
use
application
pln
pcm
2022-00394,
with
the
following
condition
that
the
applicant
obtains
a
demolition
permit
for
the
existing
garage
prior
to
obtaining
a
building
permit
for
the
construction
of
the
accessory
dwelling
unit.
M
D
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A
A
O
Hi,
thank
you.
So
this
is
a
request
from
gary
knapp
representing
the
property
owner
to
build
a
new
three-unit
single-family
attached
town
home
development
at
approximately
839
south
menden
court.
The
proposal
is
located
in
the
rmf
35
zoning
district.
Through
the
plan
development
process,
the
applicant
is
requesting
relief
from
casey.
O
So
for
a
project
overview,
the
design
of
the
new
building
is
a
three-story
three-unit
townhome,
with
a
flat
roof
attached
garages
on
the
front
recessed
entry
porches
on
the
side
of
each
and
recess
entry
porches
on
the
side
of
each
unit.
The
design
meets
requirements
for
residential
buildings
in
the
rmf
35
zone.
Each
townhome
unit
will
have
a
two-car
parking
garage
with
four
additional
parking
stalls
provided
in
a
detached
garage.
O
O
So
I
you
can
see
my
mouth
yeah,
so
this
is
the
oh
try
and
not
hit
it,
for
this
is
the
access
easement
that
is
going
to
maintain.
That
must
be
maintained
through
this
proposal
and
then
I'll
show
this
on
the
site
photos
on
the
next
slides
as
well,
and
so
here's
mendon
court,
and
then
this
is
the
new
east.
The
new
access
to
lake
street.
O
Here,
here's
another
photo
showing
the
site
generally
with
the
development
site
internal
to
the
property,
and
then
here's
some
site
photos,
so
the
top
one
is
a
site
photo
looking
from
mendon
court
looking
into
the
site,
this
photo
on
the
right
top
right
is
that
access
easement,
that's
existing
right.
Now
that
makes
kind
of
a
horseshoe
connection.
O
O
O
So
for
the
standards
of
review,
I
reviewed
the
project
for
compliance
with
the
standards
for
plan
developments,
as
well
as
the
rmf
35
zoning
standards
and
general
zoning
standards,
as
well
as
the
preliminary
plot
standards
staff
found
that
the
project
complies
with
these
standards.
With
the
requested
modifications,
suggesting
conditions
and
the
department
review
comments
and
conditions.
O
So
just
to
get
into
the
modifications
that
are
proposed,
so
the
applicant
is
requesting
modifications
to
allow
for
lots
without
straight
frontage.
The
proposed
development
is
requesting
approval
for
those
new
lots
that
do
not
front
a
public
street
due
to
the
unique
nature
of
the
site
as
an
internal
lot,
and
you
can
see
these
circles
here
and
then
front
yard
modifications.
So
there
are
several
modifications
that
deal
with
the
front
yard
area.
O
O
Is
it
within
the
20-foot
required
front
yard
setback,
and
then
it
is
also
within
10
feet
of
the
neighboring
property
to
the
south.
Accessory
buildings
cannot
be
within
10
feet
of
a
principal
structure
on
adjacent
property,
and
it
is
approximately
six
feet:
five
inches
from
that
home
and
then
because
of
the
garages
located
in
that
setback
area,
and
then
this
access
easement
that
you
can
see
here
must
be
maintained.
O
They
wouldn't
be
able
to
provide
that
33
percent
of
the
front
yard
area
as
landscaped
as
landscaping,
so
they
would
also
need
that
modification
and
then,
additionally,
an
overheat
fence
is
proposed
forward
of
the
primary
facade.
So
the
primary
facade
is
that
front
facade
of
the
townhomes
and
then
forward
of
that.
Our
code
only
allows
a
four
feet:
a
four
foot
tall
fence
and
they
are
proposing
a
six
foot
tall
fence
forward
of
that.
O
There
facade
go:
the
development
is
also
exceeding
the
maximum
parking,
so
the
maximum
off-street
parking
allowed
in
the
rmf
35
zoning
district
is
25
percent
greater
than
the
minimum.
So
the
development
requires
a
minimum
of
six
parking
spaces
and
a
maximum
of
seven,
a
maximum
of
7.5
parking
spaces,
and
the
proposal
includes
two
units
per
town
honument
with
that
additional
four
spaces
in
the
parking
garage
for
a
total
of
10
parking
stalls
and
then
the
last
modification
has
to
do
with
the
landscape
buffer.
O
So
when
a
property
in
the
rmf
zone
is
adjacent
to
a
single
or
two
family
zone,
they're
required
to
have
a
10
foot
landscape
buffer
and
on
the
east
side
of
the
property
is
the
r2
zone.
So
they
are
required
to
have
a
10
foot
landscape
buffer,
but
because
of
this
access
easement,
they
would
need
to
have
this
hard
surface
in
the
landscape
buffer,
which
is
not
allowed
so
they're
requesting
modification
to
allow
the
hard
surface.
O
And
then
it
does
extend
up
a
little
bit
to
provide
driveway
access
and
then,
as
a
result
of
that
hard
surface,
they
wouldn't
meet
the
landscaping
requirements
of
the
landscape.
Buffer,
which
requires
one
tree
per
30
feet
of
frontage,
and
so
additionally,
there
is
a
condition
in
your
staff
report
that
they
must
update
this
area
of
the
landscape
buffer
to
provide
that
one
tree
per
30
feet
because
it's
not
shown
on
their
current
landscape
plant.
O
I
received
a
phone
call
from
two
people
concerned
about
traffic
overflow
onto
lake
street,
as
well
as
overflow
parking
onto
lake
street.
The
transportation
division
did
review
and
confirmed
that
the
street
has
the
capacity
to
handle
the
additional
three
units
and
the
associated
impact
of
those
units.
O
And
then
the
east
liberty
park
community
organization
submitted
a
letter
with
generally
indicating
support,
but
with
two
requests.
One
is
to
move
the
sewer
and
water
lines
away
from
that
adjacent
property
at
847,
south
menden
court
and
the
other
one
is
that
that
access
easement
is
maintained
and
that
it's
open
to
the
residents
of
mendon
court,
which
would
be
required,
and
I'm
going
to
flip
back
up,
because
I
forgot
to
mention
this
so
on
this
image.
You
can
see
that
in
reality,
there's
this.
This
is
the
access
easement
on
the
ground.
O
M
Thanks
for
having
us
yeah
so
maybe
to
address
that
issue,
since
you
already
brought
that
up
on
the
water,
if
we
could
maybe
go
over
a
couple
slides
a
couple
more
keep
going,
let's
see
one
more
okay
right
here,
we
do
have,
it
might
be
kind
of
hard
to
see,
but
we
are
showing
the
water
line.
That's
coming
from
lake
street,
our
water
main
that's
coming
over
there
in
a
water,
lateral
that
is
coming
down
to
provide
new
water
meter
and
a
water
lateral
that
goes
to
that
adjacent
property.
M
M
One
of
the
other
things
to
point
out
here
is
we
worked
with
doug
bateman
with
fire
and
right
now
the
whole
area
is
non-conforming
as
far
as
fire
truck
access
and
fire
truck
turn
around.
So
all
of
lake
street,
all
of
mendon
court
fire
truck,
does
not
have
access
and
is
not
able
to
turn
around,
but
we
have
provided
for
the
whole
area.
M
M
The
the
last
kind
of
item
there
is
that
it
does
have.
You
know
we
are
adding
three
units
there
originally
and
a
few
guys
had
seen
some
other
requests
that
had
come
before
us,
because
other
property
owners
have
had
this
site
and
have
tried
to
develop
on
it
and
and
for
years.
Many
have
eventually
given
up,
because
it's
such
a
difficult
site,
mike's
the
first
one
that
I
know
of
that
finally
kind
of
tried
to
push
it
through
to
make
this
site
better
and
as
it's
just
been
sitting
there
vacant.
M
As
you
saw
some
of
the
pictures-
and
you
know,
they've
had
a
lot
of
different
problems
in
that
where
people
have
been
sleeping
there
and
doing
some
different
things,
and
I
think
this
will
really
beautify
the
area
help
with
the
zoning
and
and
some
of
the
plans
for
the
city
for
that
area,
to
bring
in
some
more
density.
We
don't
exceed
the
density
as
if
you
look
in
the
staff
report,
she
talks
about
that.
M
Where
we're
in
those
lines
of
density
for
this
area-
and
I
think
that's
mostly
what
what
we
have
if
we'll
just
go
to
a
rendering
on
the
next
one,
this
shows
our
our
threeplex
unit
and
on
the
left.
There
is
shows
the
the
area
for
the
fire
truck
turn
around
where
they'll
be
able
to
they'll.
Have
it
all
paved
nicely
also
so
that
the
cars
coming
around
right
now,
they're
going
through
dirt?
Essentially,
when
they
come
around
to
get
around,
you
know
it
will
be
maintained
and
taken
care
of.
M
This
is
the
site
planets
in
the
same
ones
in
the
staff
report,
and
you
can
see
even
the
city
recently
made
those
fire
truck
turnarounds
larger
than
code
than
the
ifc,
and
we
were
able
to
fit
that
in
there
still
and
get
it
it's
quite
large
and
and
we
got
it
to
fit
in
there.
I
think
that's
all
that
I
have
did
you
have
anything
that
you
want
to
talk
about
or.
N
Just
that
we're
trying
to
be
a
good
neighbor
with
this
project,
it
has
been
an
undevelopable
site
in
the
past,
it's
only
by
purchasing
lake
street's
property
that
we're
able
to
make
this
a
developable
property.
Originally,
we
anticipated
four
units.
We
sacrificed
one
of
the
four
in
order
to
put
a
fire
lane
turn
around
in
for
the
three
block
area
in
doing
so
providing
fire
truck
access
to
all
three
blocks.
So
we
really
are
trying
to
be
a
good
neighbor.
N
We
have
changed
our
drawings
to
relocate
the
the
water
line
for
the
adjacent
property
owner
I've
reached
out
to
him
via
email,
because
that's
the
only
contact
information.
I
have
just
to
ensure
that
he's
on
board
with
how
we're
proposing
to
accomplish
that.
But
we
really
are
trying
to
be
a
good
neighbor
and
improve
the
area
a
paved
turnaround.
A
paved
easement
would
be
nice
for
everybody
that
travels
that,
and
so
that's
that's
my
plea.
So
thank
you.
M
If
you
look
at
the
site,
wherever
we
orient
the
back
of
the
building,
we
would
have
that
25-foot
setback,
and
so,
if
we
did
let's
say
turn
the
building
another
way,
it's
kind
of
narrower
there
there's
really
no
space
between
those
setbacks
to
to
fit.
It
was
kind
of
the
the
only
way
to
do
it
and
that
easement
that
goes
around
those
garages,
that's
recorded
easement.
M
We
would
we
couldn't
put
a
building
in
that
area,
and
so
we're
kind
of
put
it
in
that
corner
kind
of
the
only
place
that
it
would
fit
so
that
we
could
make
it
work
and
with
the
fire
truck
turn
around
it
kind
of
pushed
us
right
in
that
area.
Where
we
kind
of
put
it
the
only
place
we
could,
we
could
get
it
in
there
and
I
think,
that's
all
our
comments.
Thank
you.
I
I
N
Our
our
desire,
the
market
that
we're
hearing,
is
that
there
is
a
desire
for
enclosed
parking,
that
enclosed
parking
provides
added
vehicle
safety,
which
appears
to
be
desirable
for
potential
buyers.
That's
what's
really
driving
us
there
in
talking
to
adjacent
property
owners,
we've
been
asked
to
if
we
could
include
a
wall
or
tall
fence
along
the
back
of
what
we've
proposed
as
the
garages
anyway.
N
So
adding
the
structure
seem
to
accomplish
that
as
a
side
benefit,
so
we'd
prefer
the
garages
at
at
minimum
we'd
prefer
carports
or
surface
parking.
Surface
parking
would
be
the
least
desirable
because
it
doesn't
supply
any
vehicle
protection
from
the
elements
or
from
vandalism
so,
but
that
that's
what
was
driving
this.
A
A
D
D
O
I
can
jump
in
so
for
the
subdivision:
they
have
the
three
townhome
units
and
then
they
also
have
the
four
garages
on
their
own
lots
when
they
submit
for
their
prelim
the
final
plot
which
will
be
acquired.
They
will
need
to
provide
how
that
will
work
out
with
ownership.
You
know
how
what
units
will
own?
What
garages.
Q
K
Q
A
A
J
J
E
J
Sometimes
my
garbage
doesn't
even
get
picked
up
because
people
are
parking
in
there.
The
garbage
truck
can't
make
it
down
there.
My
car
has
been
hit
three
different
times.
I've
had
to
file
different
insurance
claims,
with
my
car
being
hit
in
that
street,
so
don't
be
fooled
about
access
in
lake
street
or
even
mending.
Court
men
and
court
are
two
little
teeny
alleys
lake
street's,
a
small
little
street
that
was
never
intended
for
any
more
traffic
than
it
already
has,
and
just
don't
be
fooled
by
this.
Thank
you.
E
E
H
A
A
M
If
you
look
in
the
middle
there
right,
where
that
fire
truck
turn
around
is
there's
a
storm
tech
system
underneath
the
ground
there
for
a
hundred
year,
storm
there's
drains
along
there
and
we're
sloping
everything
to
keep
all
drainage
on
site
so
that
right
now
it
the
drainage,
actually
will
go
down
menden
court,
you
know-
and
this
will
help
that
situation
a
lot
for
these
properties,
because
it
we
have
a
whole
system.
There
that's
going
to
maintain
the
drainage
there
on
site,
and
did
you
have
any
you
want
to
address
it.
N
So
parking
is
a
problem
in
this
whole
area.
Everybody's
correct
lake,
street's
parking-
I
don't
know
if
lake
street
was
ever
intended
to
have
surface
street
parking
on
it.
It
makes
it
congested.
It
completely
blocks
menden
and
closes
it
off
menden.
Those
have
been
the
complaints
from
the
fire
department.
N
That
is
the
reason
that
our
comments
from
the
fire
department
have
been
so
positive.
Is
that
we're
actually
adding
extra
parking,
pulling
parking
off
of
lake
street,
pulling
parking
off
of
the
neighboring
mendon
and
capturing
more
parking
on
site
than
then
right
now,
we're
allowed
to
which
is
one
of
the
variances
we're
seeking.
M
I
say
one
more
thing
exactly
so:
doug
bateman
did
say
that
this
lot
would
be
unbuildable
if
it
did
not
have
a
fire
truck
turn
around.
They
would
not
that
the
fire
department
would
not
approve
anything
without
that.
So
it
is
something
whoever
is
going
to
eventually
want
to
develop
onto
this
site
will
need
to
provide
that
either
way,
and
so
because
of
lake
street
right
now
they
don't
have
that
and
that's
what
doug
bateman
told
us
so,
okay.
A
I
I
I
maybe
have
a
question
or
one
of
you,
if
you
understand
it
better,
can
explain
it
to
me
on
the
left
side
of
this.
It
says
future
townhome.
There
are
three
sites
for
that
and
then
there's
a
the
road
to
go
over
to
lake
street,
but
right
now
that
is
there
a
home
on
that
lot.
Right
now
it
looks
like
there
is.
M
L
I
M
N
I
I
M
O
Yeah
they'll
have
their
building
permit
process
but
and
then
they'll
just
record
an
easement
assuming
that
things
are
approved
through
the
building
permit
process.
But
the
those
lots
currently
as
they've
shown
don't
require
any
special
approvals
through
the
planning,
commission
or
variants
or
modifications.
I
A
A
So
a
fence
that
you
would
put
up
would
be
six
feet,
so
they
do
go
above
that
and
I
I
think
I
have
a
concern
with
him.
Being
that
close,
I
would
be
open.
I
would
be
more
amenable
if
it
was
a
carport,
even
though
then
it
would
require
the
same,
the
same
exception,
but
I
I
do
either
we
move
them.
I
in
my
mind
either
move
them
four
feet
away.
So
it's
that
ten
foot
buffer
or
they
become
not
a
solid
structure
in
my
mind.
But
how
do
other
commissioners
feel.
I
A
A
Yeah,
if
it's
surface
parking
that
it
doesn't
need,
then
it
would
need
a
different
exception,
because
that's
not
allowed
in
a
front
yard.
If
it's
a
carport,
it
would
still
be
the
same
exception
language,
but
it
would.
We
would
have
to
have
a
condition
that
said
only
a
carport
would
be
allowed
right.
I
M
A
D
D
A
A
Is
that's
the
benefit
for
me
and
trying
to
think
about
if
I
lived
there,
but
also,
then
the
concerns
expressed
in
that
letter
and
then
tonight,
as
well
of
having
having
the
question
before
us,
is
that
you
know
these
things
are
supposed
to
be
ten
feet
from
a
structure
and
they
want
them.
They
wanted
to
put
it
closer
and
that's
one
part
where
I
think
maybe
we
could
that
I'm
struggling
with
too,
because
I
wouldn't
want
it
that
close
to
my
house
either.
M
M
E
I
I
N
A
E
N
O
A
Okay,
I
think
we
understand
on
that
one.
If,
though,
we
did
that,
we
would
have
to
make
a
condition
or
we
would
have
to
add
language-
and
I
don't
know
what
that
language
would
be.
So
I'd
probably
make
adrien
make
this
motion
that
that
we
would
be.
Then,
if
they
chose
surface
parking,
we
would
be
approving
whatever
exception
to
the
ordinance
to
allow
that
or
they
move
their
garage
and
realign
the
easement
and
delegate
that
to
staff,
whichever
one
that
goes
to
us.
D
Okay,
I
think
I
got
it.
Okay,
all
right,
based
on
the
findings
listed
in
the
staff
report,
the
information
presented
and
the
input
received
during
the
public
hearing.
I
moved
that
the
planning
commission
approved
the
plan
development
pln
pcm
2021-01078
and
preliminary
plat
request
pln
sub
2022-00419.
D
For
the
project
located
at
approximately
839
south
menden
court,
with
the
conditions
listed
in
the
staff
report,
subject
to
the
following
modifications
that
the
applicant
be
allowed
to
locate
surface
parking
in
the
general
location
shown
on
the
site
plan
where
the
standalone
garages
are
currently
proposed
or
that
the
applicant
be
allowed
to
locate
standalone
garages
in
this
general
location.
So
long
as
they
are
10
feet
from
the
adjacent
structure.
H
A
E
A
A
F
B
A
A
I
won't
take
it
personally.
I
understand
all
right.
Moving
on
to
the
next
agenda
item.
We
have
up
15
wait.
What
time
is
it?
Okay,
we're
going?
It's
1550
south
main
street
assemblage
zoning
map,
master
plan
and
zoning
text
amendments
and
alley
vacation.
This
is
case
number
pln
pcm
2021-01191
on
the
zoning
map,
amendment
pln
pcm
2022-0065
for
the
master
plan,
amendment
and
case
number,
pln
pcm
2022-00086
for
the
alley
vacation
and
the
planner
with
us
tonight
on.
This
is
david.
H
Okay.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
As
you
noted,
this
is
a
zoning
map.
Amendment
master
plan
amendment
alley
vacation.
I
thought
I
heard
you
mention
a
text
amendment
as
well.
That
was
part
of
the
original
proposal.
That's
no
longer
something
that
the
applicant
is
proposing.
If
that
snuck
into
an
agenda
somewhere
in
the
language
I
apologize,
but
I
thought
we
had
that's.
H
Okay,
so
this
is
the
rezoning
of
multiple
parcels
from
cc
or
corridor
commercial
and
one
parcel
that's
r1,
5000
single-family
residential
to
the
fbun2
form-based
urban
neighborhood
map
shows
the
assemblage
of
properties
there
with
the
alley
running
through
the
middle
of
those
and
again
main
street
and
then
at
andrew
avenue
to
the
north.
So
the
request
is
to
amend
the
central
community
master
plan,
along
with
the
zoning
to
that
fbun2
and
we'll
point
out
that
the
central
community
master
plan
is
the
relevant
document.
H
At
this
point,
however,
the
staff
report
also
does
acknowledge
that
the
ballpark
station
area
plan
is
in
progress
in
draft
form,
although
that's
not
adopted.
So
the
central
community
master
plan
is
the
relevant
document
intent.
The
applicant
of
state
is
to
combine
all
the
parcels
and
alley
into
one
parcel
and
under
new
zoning
and
develop
a
mixed-use
project
on
the
site
staff
is
recommending
the
planning
commission
forward
a
positive
recommendation
to
city
council
for
all
three
petitions.
H
You've
got
the
main
street
motel
kind
of
in
the
center,
the
old
new
golden
dragon
restaurant
on
the
right
hand,
side
in
the
bottom
corner,
two
single
dwellings
that
front
on
main
street
and
then
behind
the
trees.
You
can't
quite
see
it
here:
the
property
at
1550,
1515,
south
richards
a
street,
contains
two
legally
conforming
duplexes,
which
would
be
removed
as
part
of
this.
H
H
The
picture
on
the
right
is
the
alley
that
runs
through
the
properties
running
south
north
south
and
it's
blocked
off
part
way
down
used
for
parking
and
storage
and
the
two
top
pictures
are
the
existing
duplexes
at
1515,
south
richards
and
then
the
two
single-family
homes
on
main
street
that
would
be
removed.
As
part
of
this
proposal.
H
We
looked
at
master
plan,
city
goals
and
policies
in
the
central
community
pastor
plan.
There
are
statements
that
both
support
and
conflict
with
the
proposed
changes.
Again
I
mentioned
that
the
ballpark
plan
is
in
draft
form.
There
are
statements
that
support
and
conflict.
There
is
one
correction
in
my
staff
report.
I
mentioned
something
about
the
draft
ballpark
station
area
plan,
including
a
recommendation
to
extend
the
south
state
street
corridor
overlay
to
include
the
west
side
of
main
street.
H
H
H
Fbun2
zoning
would
allow
multi-family
or
mixed-use
buildings
in
that
form
up
to
50
feet
tall
and
the
fbu
and
ii
would
require
step
backs
when
adjacent
to
residential,
there's
considerably
more
design
standards
in
the
fbun2.
The
cc
zoning
district
is
one
of
ours
that
has
very
few
design
standards
in
terms
of
required
glass,
durable
materials.
Things
like
that
there's
none
of
those
included
in
the
cc
zoning
district,
so
the
fbu
and
ii
would
provide
a
similar,
a
negligible
height
difference,
but
a
lot
more
robust
design
standards
for
a
future
development.
H
Excuse
me:
we
did
look
at
possible
alternative
zoning
districts.
We
looked
at
the
rmu
45,
the
residential
mixed
use
zone
45
feet,
and
that
was
the
logical
comparison
in
terms
of
it
allows
a
similar
height
maximum
height
and
there's
some
step
back
requirements
when
adjacent
to
single-family
residential.
H
So
we
chose
that
rmu,
specifically
as
the
comparison,
although
many
uses
in
the
rmu
require
conditional
use
and
again
there
are
more
requirements
for
design
and
overall
street
interaction
in
the
fbu
and
too
so,
as
such
staff
is
not
recommending
an
alternate
zoning
district,
the
housing
loss
mitigation,
six
existing
housing
units
are
being
removed.
That's
the
four
units
in
the
two
duplexes
at
1515,
south
richards,
and
then
the
existing
single
family
dwellings
at
1540
south
main
in
1546.
H
So
it
requires
them
to
go
through
housing,
loss
mitigation
and
there's
a
number
of
options
they
can
choose.
Replacement
of
housing
was
the
option
they
have
chosen
and
there
is
a
in
your
staff
report.
There
is
a
section
for
the
housing
loss
mitigation
report
that
was
signed
by
the
can
director
included
in
the
staff
report
and
that's
something
we
have
to
provide
before
this
can
go
to
city
council
and
the
planning
commission
needs
to
consider
the
alley
vacation.
The
existing
alley
runs
through
the
center
of
the
development.
H
H
H
General
theme
seemed
to
be
that
people
would
like
to
see
that
site
redeveloped,
but
the
height
was
a
concern
now
initially
when
this
was
routed
to
neighboring
property
owners
in
the
community
council,
it
was
including
a
text
amendment
to
ask
for
fbun2,
but
with
a
text
amendment
to
allow
65
feet
in
height
on
these
properties,
based
on
input
from
staff
and
some
of
the
public
comments.
The
applicant
has
scaled
back
on
that
so
that
he
has.
H
We
looked
at
the
standards
for
general
amendments,
which
includes
that
purpose
statement
and
again
master
plans.
Don't
have
a
specific
set
of
review
standards,
it's
the
master
plan
is
being
amended
to
provide
consistency
between
the
plan
and
the
property
zoning
and
then
the
ali
vacation
policy
considerations
and
factors.
H
We
again
reiterate
the
proposal
was
supported
by
some
plan
statements,
conflicts
with
others.
Overall,
the
proposed
resource
rezoning
is
supported
by
city
plans
and
policy
and
that
master
plan
would
be
amended
to
provide
consistency
and
the
outlook
vacation
generally
meets
the
policy
considerations
and
factors.
H
P
Commissioners,
thanks
for
having
us
here
tonight,
our
state
finds
itself
in
a
severe
housing
shortage.
We
have
water
conservation
issues,
we
have
air
quality
that
needs
to
be
improved,
and
this
neighborhood
has
tremendous
crime.
It
is
our
strong
feeling
that
there's
great
merit,
from
a
planning
perspective,
to
rezone
this
property,
to
a
higher
density
at
fbun2
to
help
solve
some
of
these
challenges.
P
We'd
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
why
this
makes
sense,
it
adds
housing
in
a
transportation,
rich
location,
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
key
location
of
this
site
and
how
it
what
why
it
makes
such
an
impact.
Second,
the
environmental
benefits
of
infill
development
on
sites
such
as
this
and
third,
the
need
to
revitalize
this
section
of
main
street
to
improve
the
crime.
P
P
P
If
you
look
over
to
the
right,
you'll
see
a
yellow
dot
of
the
bus
line
on
state
street,
where
buses
come
every
15
minutes
going
to
downtown
the
red
line.
Touching
our
property
is
a
bike
lane
that
goes
on
main
street,
all
the
way
downtown,
and
we
timed
it
13
minutes
on
bike
to
get
downtown,
there's
also
walking.
It
takes
about
40
minutes
to
walk,
downtown,
there's
car
and
there's
micro
mobility.
P
San
diego
has
made
infill
development
a
key
strategy
in
combating
water
conservation
by
adding
residents
downtown
in
walkable
locations.
We
can
conserve
water
and
second,
the
epa
put
out
a
report
showing
how
in-field
development
close
to
transportation
options
that
reduce
car
trips
improves
air
quality.
P
P
P
We
took
a
look
at
the
master
plan
to
make
sure
that
what
we
are
proposing
is
consistent
with
what
it
calls
for,
and
we
found
the
four
different
points:
creating
a
more
livable
communities
and
neighborhoods
through
the
appropriate
transition
of
multi-family
housing
and
mixed
land
uses
in
designated
areas.
Second,
to
have
pedestrians,
use,
transit
and
walk
comfortably
to
services,
shopping
and
recreational
opportunities.
Third,
to
increase
pedestrian
accessibility
by
creating
housing
that
supports
the
employment
center
of
the
downtown
area
and
forth
an
enhanced
built
environment
that
encourages
employees
to
work
and
live
in
the
central
community.
P
P
I
also
want
to
mention
something
about
setbacks.
There
has
been
some
complaints
that
this
zone
doesn't
have
adequate
setbacks.
It
is
our
strong
passion
that
in
urban
pedestrian
mixed-use
locations,
minimizing
setbacks
is
good
urban
design.
However,
there
already
exists
about
a
25
foot
setback
from
the
street
to
the
property
line.
So
even
if
this
fbun2
zone
has
minimum
setbacks,
there
already
exists
city
right-of-way
set
back
there.
P
F
We
also
really
enjoy
working
in
the
fbu
in2
zone,
we're
very
familiar
with
it,
they're
higher
design
standards,
more
street
activation
requirements
and
as
solely
infill
urban
developers.
That's
something
we
like,
because
it
forces
us
to
create
a
more
enhanced
product,
that's
more
walkable
that
adds
value
to
where
it
is
and
really
provides
a
better
product
than
what's
currently
found.
A
Okay,
hang
tight,
we'll
go
to
the
public
comment
period
and
then
I'll
give
you
the
opportunity
to
address
any
thing
that
may
come
up
that
you
want
to
speak
to
we'll
open
the
public
commentary.
Do
I
have
anyone
here
from
the
community
council
right
if
you
want
to
head
up
to
the
microphone
state,
your
name
for
the
record
and
you'll
have
five
minutes
as
a
community
council
representative.
N
One
main
street
from
13th
to
17th
south
is
commercial
corridor.
Zoning
and
all
of
the
existing
new
developments
have
had
to
comply
with
and
have
created,
viable
developments
on
both
sides
of
main
street
that
respected
the
community
council
zoning
requirements.
I'm
sorry
commercial
corridor,
including
height
restrictions,
setbacks,
parking
and
green
space
number
two
we're
concerned
that
the
developments
entire
southern
boundary
is
along
single
family
homes,
both
on
main
street
and
van
buren
avenue.
N
Page
13
describes
the
main
street
character
area
as
the
presence
of
a
small
local
business,
a
generally
pleasant,
pedestrian
and
bike
environment
and
medium
density
residential
buildings.
New
developments
should
focus
on
maintaining
the
scale
walkability
and
bike
ability
of
the
neighborhood
on
page
18.
It
states
that
the
area
between
major
street
and
the
recently
down
zone
residential
area
should
be
considered
for
redevelopment
into
a
meeting
medium
density
area
that
uses
current
building
scale
and
massing
to
guide
future
development.
N
N
The
fifth
item
we're
concerned
because,
f
b,
u
n,
two
zoning
has
been
described
by
a
former
chair
of
the
central
ninth
community
council.
As
quote,
it
was
an
experiment
in
central
ninth,
which
was
proven
to
be
flawed
and
unhealthy,
discourages
green
space
and
can
be
made
much
taller
with
application
of
the
affordable
housing
overlay.
End
quote.
N
A
E
E
So,
first
off,
I
really
want
to
express
that
I
am
completely
on
board
with
getting
rid
of
the
main
street
motel
on
that
property
is
a
blight
to
our
community,
our
safety
and
it
deadens
the
vibrancy
of
our
neighborhood.
So
I'm
very
much
on
board,
as
jeff
was
saying
to
getting
rid
of
that,
I
want
to
transform
that
property
into
something
that
beautifies
and
benefits
the
community,
but
I
don't
think
that
the
zoning
change
is
the
right
way
to
do
that.
E
E
If
I
want
to
see
children
out
walking,
if
I
want
to
see
mothers,
you
know
if
I
want
to
see
kind
of
that
residential
feel
it's
very,
very
narrow
within
this
corridor,
and
so
one
of
the
things
to
me
is
that
I
am
pro
housing,
I'm
pro-affordable
housing.
I
just
do
not
think
that
this
project,
in
this
exact
location,
is
the
correct
use
of
the
space
the
the
setbacks
that
were
referred
to.
I
noticed
that
they
showed
the
25
feet
off
of
main
street.
E
E
E
They
abided
by
the
the
cc
zoning
and
I
feel
like
that's
an
example
of
a
building
space
that
provided
parking,
provided
green
space
and
stayed
within
the
zoning
requirements
and
then,
along
with
other
buildings
along
main
street.
My
concern
goes
to
some
of
these
much
larger
buildings
that
were
that
I
saw
in
the
proposal
the
request,
and
there
are
these
monolith
style
buildings
on,
and
this
is
a
two
acre
lot.
E
E
Hope
of
mine
that
any
development
going
forward
encourages
for
sale
housing,
because
I
think
that
ownership
is
important
for
that
neighborhood.
It's
80
percent
rental,
and
only
about
20,
less
than
20
percent
owner
and
ownership
in
a
community
does
help
reduce
crime.
Renters
it's
helpful,
but
it
doesn't
do
a
lot
to
to
curb
crime
because
they
can
just
walk
away.
S
This
is
a
very
dysfunctional
zone
and
I
speak
about
it
every
opportunity
I
have.
I
have
never
seen
a
staff
report
from
this
planning
division
that
made
so
many
references
to
development
agreements.
Those
are
flags
that
tell
you
that
this
zone
is
not
working,
that
this
is
not
a
good
fit,
that
the
staff
has
to
bring
up
the
option
of
development
agreements
so
many
times
in
the
staff
report.
Now
these
are
not
options
that
have
been
vetted
in
the
community.
S
They
are
being
put
out
there
as
reasons
that
you
can
support
this
proposal
and
a
previous
deputy
planning
director
once
described
to
me,
development
agreements
are
workarounds.
That's
exactly!
What's
going
on.
It's
a
work
around
the
failures
of
the
ordinance.
There
is
no
guarantee
that
the
city
will
get
housing
at
this
site,
because
the
app
being
un2
is
such
a
wild
card.
Such
a
blank
check
for
the
developer
and
because
the
development
agreements
that
are
mentioned
have
not
been
included
at
every
stage
of
the
public
process.
S
S
I
haven't
been
going
to
land
use
conferences,
the
housing
loss
mitigations,
con
calculations,
which
you
have
the
authority
to
initiate
a
petition
on
and
have
not
done.
They
have
been
failing
for
almost
30
years
now
and
it's
just
a
joke.
We
are
talking
about
this
placement
here
of
six
residential
units.
There
is
no
place
based
on
the
thriving
study
for
those
people
to
go.
That's.
A
A
R
Good
evening
my
name
is
sash
combs.
Thank
you
for
happening.
Having
me,
I'm
a
18
plus
year
resident
in
the
neighborhood
of
ballpark,
I'm
just
around
the
corner
from
the
property
site
and
I'm
speaking
in
opposition
to
the
rezoning
of
this
assemblish
assemblage
from
the
current
cc
to
this
fb
un2
zoning
and
also
the
amendment
to
the
land
use
area
map.
I
believe
the
current
zoning
of
cc
or
corridor
commercial
provides
the
developer
the
leeway
and
the
flexibility
to
build
an
array
of
developments.
R
I
mean
that's
the
purpose
of
it
and
while
maintaining
that
proper
input
and
checks
are
oversight
by
the
community
and
the
city
as
well.
F,
the
fba
un
zoning,
I
think,
has
been
very
controversial.
We've
heard
tonight
in
its
use
elsewhere
and
the
suggestion
that
the
urban
wall
created
by
no
setback,
I
think
that
that
will
activate
the
neighborhood
as
false.
It's
not
it's
not
the
case.
So,
as
I
understand
fb
and
youtube
too
provides
similar
development
options.
R
The
authors
of
the
the
central
community
master
plan
wrote
managing
future.
This
is
quote:
managing
future
growth
of
the
central
community
relies
on
successful
implementation
of
this
master
plan.
So
I
believe
this
is
an
instance
where
the
this
this
planning
commission
should
say
hey.
This
is
not
right.
This
is
kind
of
going
against
the
grain.
This
is
the
time
to
kind
of
draw
the
line
in
the
sand
here,
and-
and
this
is
what
the
the
drafters
were
originally
talking
about-
the
current
cc
zone.
A
A
P
Yes,
thank
you
amy,
we
do
a
lot
of
development
in
the
city
and
the
fb
un2
zone
would
provide
a
better
design
and
development
in
in
our
opinion
than
cc.
We
first
went
in
at
65
feet
because
we
believe
locating
more
housing.
Here
is
better,
the
neighbors
were
against
it
and
we
listened
to
them
and
dropped
it
back
to
50.
the
height
between
that
50-foot
height
and
what
you
can
get
in
cc
is
really
negligible,
but
the
fbun
requires
other,
better
benefits
to
the
neighbors
than
cc
cc.
P
You
don't
have
to
step
back
against
residential
single
family
homes,
and
you
can
do
you
don't
have
to
do
durable
materials.
The
one
thing
that
residents
have
been
arguing,
especially
in
c9,
is
the
lack
of
parking
developers
can
build
an
fbun
without
providing
any
parking.
We
have
offered
to
provide
parking
spaces
in
the
building,
but
that
doesn't
take
place
at
the
planning
commission.
It
takes
place
at
the
city
council.
F
F
We
also
control
the
parcel
just
to
the
north
of
this
across
the
street.
That's
a
small
parking
lot
that
we're
not
taking
through
the
rezone
process,
but
the
goal
is
to
add
retail
there
as
well.
So
our
goal
for
residents
a
more
enhanced
product
to
be
able
to
attract
people
to
our
products
are
creating
vibrant,
beautifully
built
products
which,
which
includes
ground
floor
retail
and
commercial
space.
F
So
the
fbun2
allows
us
to
create
corner
commercial
retail
space
that
includes
outdoor
seating
and
gathering
space,
more
durable
materials
and
more
ground
floor
activation
parking
is
always
something
we
provide
in
our
projects
because,
like
I
said,
we
don't
just
build
and
sell
and
leave
we
are
here
for
the
long
term.
This
is
our
city.
These
are
our
neighborhoods
that
we
work
in.
A
D
H
H
As
far
as
the
setback
goes
on
a
front
okay,
so
in
van
buren
to
the
south,
so
you'd
be
looking
at
the
south
side.
That
would
be
an
interior
side
yard.
There
isn't
a
requirement
in
the
cc
zoning
district
of
an
interior
side
yard
in
the
fbun2
there's
a
requirement
of
15
feet
along
a
side
property
line
that
abunds
a
residential
district
that
is
less
than
35
feet.
H
A
P
F
They're
also,
it
allows
us
to
provide
a
higher
ground
floor
where
we
can
attract
better
retail.
It
gives
us
more
flexibility
for
parking
and
for
ground
floor
retail
and
that's
as
as
we've
done
in
projects
in
fb
until
that's
what
we
we
always
provide.
So
it
allows
us
to
attract
better
commercial
tenants
and
retail
tenants
with
higher
span
ceilings
on
the
ground
floor
and
add
more
parking
on
site
through
through
that
extra,
that
additional
five
feet
in
height
that
we
get
in
the
fbun2
through
a
cc
design
review
additional
height.
P
E
A
D
D
D
I
I'm
just
saying
I've
never
been
a
big
fan
of
the
cc
zone.
I
think
it's
a
relic
from
a
prior
era
and
especially
given
the
limits
in
terms
of
design
and
requirements
on
design
that
you
get
in
other
zones.
So
I'm
in
support
of
recommending
a
city
council
to
approve
this
and
I'm
willing
to
make
a
motion
unless
there's
other
discussion.
H
A
I
think
if
I
were
a
resident
there,
I
would
prefer
it
further
away
from
my
property
line
versus
the
street.
I
would
get
more
benefit
that
way
than
the
street,
but
that's
the
that's
the
trade-off
for
the
issue.
They
brought
up
there
green
space.
The
difference
again,
I
feel,
is
fairly
negligible
because
in
the
cc
zone
it's
15
feet
in
the
front,
whereas
for
fbun
it's
10
and
based
on
your
project,
you
get
to
then
work
that
in
how
it
fits
best,
and
it
might
even
be
better
than
just
making
it
be
along
this
strip.
A
They
do
have
that
huge,
wide
parking
strip
that
not
everybody
has
so
so
there's
that's
a
nice
benefit
as
well,
and
then
the
height
we've
already
been
dealt
with,
and
so
those
are
like
the
biggest
complaints
or
the
biggest
drawbacks
that
have
come
out
of
the
communities
that
I.
So
when
I
compare
those
two,
you
know
in
my
mind:
what
kind?
What
can
you
build
regarding
those
issues
with
cc
versus
what
you
can
build
with
fbun,
and
I
think
the
residents
come
out
better
on
setbacks
and
green
space
in
the
fbun.
A
E
A
B
A
D
Okay,
yes,
all
right,
based
on
the
information
and
the
staff
report,
the
information
presented
and
the
input
received
during
the
public
hearing.
I
move
that
the
planning
commission
forward
a
positive
recommendation
to
city
council
for
the
pro
proposed
zoning
map
and
master
plan
amendments
and
the
alley
vacation
request
for
the
property
parcels
located
at
1518,
1530,
1540,
1546,
south
main
street
and
1550
south
richards
street
respectively,
as
requested
through
the
following
applications
and
the
with
the
recommendations
listed
below
zoning
map.
D
D
Request
to
vacate
and
close
the
platted
alley
to
incorporate
the
area
into
the
development
as
private
property,
with
the
recommendations,
one,
the
housing
being
removed
from
the
site
must
be
replaced
to
the
property
for
the
vacated
alley
be
integrated
into
the
future
development
and
three.
The
rezoned
parcels
must
be
consolidated
through
the
appropriate
process.
A
E
A
E
P
A
Adrian,
yes
and
I'll
also
vote
yes,
so
that's
passes
with
nine
unanimous
votes.
Congratulations!
You're
on
to
the
city
council
and
for
those
that
spoke
tonight.
This
is
not
your
last
opportunity
to
protect
to
participate.
The
community
council
or
the
city
council
will
hold
public
hearing
as
well.
So
you
still
have
an
opportunity
to
voice
your
thoughts
to
them.
F
E
E
A
E
E
J
A
A
J
You
for
having
me
this
evening.
I
appreciate
everyone
get
close
to
the
mic
there.
We
go
thanks
again
for
having
me
this
evening.
It's
great
to
be
here.
We
are
wrapping
up
this
multi-year
study.
This
was
a
really
fun
and
great
project
and
unique
opportunity
that
we
had
as
a
city.
This
started
back
in
2018
when
the
city
received
a
grant
from
the
county.
J
We
went
in
together
with
mill,
creek
south
salt
lake
and
holiday,
and
decided
that
we
needed
to
do
a
comprehensive
plan
for
transportation
that
actually
crosses
all
of
our
borders
and
works
to
to
get
people
to
and
from
all
these
communities,
and
that's
unique.
We
don't
do
that
very
often,
it
seems
like
often
we
plan
right
up
to
the
city
boundary,
and
then
we
try
to
work
with
our
neighbors
to
work
it
out.
But
in
this
case
we
actually
all
went
in.
We
all
contributed
money
to
the
to
the
project.
J
But
at
the
end
we
actually
received
a
lot
of
public
input
on
this
on
this
study
and
felt
like
we,
we
got
a
really
good
representation
of
what
people
thought
about
what
we
were
doing
and
opinions
and
perspectives,
and
so
it
was
really
valuable
for
us
to
go
through
that
process.
Our
final
study,
we
got
our
final
survey.
We
received
over
a
thousand
public
comments
and
for
us
that
that
felt
like
a
real
win.
We
started
off
our
first
survey.
J
We
got
like
200
comments
and
we
really
had
to
up
our
game
in
terms
of
getting
out
there
and
getting
in
front
of
people
with
all
the
competing
news
about
the
pandemic
and
social
unrest
and
all
the
things
that
were
going
on
in
2020.
It
was
challenging
but
really
important
that
we
went
through
it.
We
we
really
needed
to
get
this
study
done
in
that
timeline.
As
you
know,
there
are
many.
J
Many
of
our
roads
in
sugar
house
are
slated
for
reconstruction
in
the
next
few
years
and
we
wanted
this
study
to
inform
what
we
were
doing,
and
so
that's
really
what's
happened,
and
tonight
I'm
here
presenting
to
you
what
we
came
up
with.
So
my
intent
with
this
presentation
is
to
keep
it
fairly
high
level
on
executive.
There's
a
lot
of
detail
here,
I'll
try
to
hit
on
the
things
that
are
really
important,
really
love
to
hear
your
comments,
feedback
questions
and
make
it
as
much
of
a
conversation
as
we
can
as
we
move
along.
J
So
the
local
link
study
consisted
of
two
different
elements
or
parts.
The
first
part
was
a
circulation
study.
The
circulation
study
was
really
focused
on
how
we
better
improve
our
active
transportation
connections
between
sugarhouse,
south
salt
lake
and
mill
creek.
How
do
we
get
people
to
be
able
to
walk
and
ride
bikes?
What
gaps
and
barriers
are
out
there
to
keep
people
from
doing
that?
J
We
obviously
can't
widen
a
lot
of
the
roads
out
there.
Just
due
to
the
constraints
that
we
have
with
our
right
away.
13Th
east
thailand
drive.
They
can't
be
widened
more,
so
we
need
to
accommodate
that
future
growth
and
honestly,
the
only
option
left
to
us
is
walking
biking
transit,
which
is
great
because
it's
actually
very
compatible
with
the
sugar
house
master
plan.
With
our
plan
salt
lake
city,
with
all
the
other
guiding
documents
that
we
have,
that
help
us
guide
and
direct
our
future,
so
that's
really
what
we've
done!
J
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
circulation
study
first
and
then
we'll
go
into
the
transit
study.
We
kind
of
broke
them
as
apart
as
two
separate
entities,
and-
and
and
here
we
go
so
this
is
our
circulation
study
by
the
way.
All
of
this
is
live
online.
If
you
go
to
localingstudy.com,
you
can
access
this
scroll
through
it
look
at
it.
J
This
has
been
up
the
entire
time
for
anyone
that
wants
to
engage
with
us
to
be
able
to
go
and
see
what
we're
up
to
and
I'll
just
jump
right
to
our
recommendat,
our
guiding
principles.
So
the
first
thing
we
had
to
do
was
meet
together
as
staff
from
all
these
various
cities
and
try
to
come
up
with
some
unification
of
what
we
wanted
to
accomplish
in
this
area,
regardless
of
city
boundaries.
J
J
Safety
is
always
very
important
to
us:
equity,
transparency
and
engagement,
sustainability,
choice,
connectivity,
health
and
collaboration,
and
so,
as
we
went
through
our
study,
we
really
focused
on
these
eight
guiding
principles.
To
help
us
decide
whether
or
not
a
project
was
something
that
was
a
good
idea
or
a
bad
idea
and
help
us
to
guide
and
direct
us
as
we
as
we
went
through
it,
and-
and
we
created
this
vision
as
well
together
as
all
the
cities
that
we
wanted.
J
J
Our
team
came
up
with
a
total
of
eight
project
recommendations,
the
things
that
we
can
actually
build,
things
that
need
to
happen.
The
first
was
we
identified
that
the
parley's
trail
alignment
through
the
sugarhouse
central
business
district
is
a
gap.
You
come
into
hidden
hollow
from
sugar
house
park
and
it
kind
of
just
disappears,
and
then
it
picks
up
at
the
s
line
and
there's
a
big
gap
right
in
there,
and
so
our
team
looked
at.
How
could
we
connect
those
two
points
and
make
that
gap
close
up?
J
The
second
recommendation
we
made
was
complete
street
improvements
along
2700
south
now.
It's
ironic
that
we're
talking
about
that
today,
we're
resurfacing
2700
south
and
adding
those
complete
street
improvements
early
this
week,
so
that's
actually
already
happening
through
a
streets
resurfacing
project.
J
The
third
element
we
we
talked
about
was
complete
street
improvements
between
the
sugar
house,
business
district
and
mill
creek
city
center,
both
on
13th
east
and
on
highland
drive.
We
felt
like
in
the
end
on
ninth
east,
there's
multiple
connections
there,
but
it
was
really
important
that
we
connect
those
two
centers
for
people
to
walk
and
bike
from
one
to
the
other
and
and
not
have
to
drive
as
they
get
around
in
this
area.
J
J
We
also
came
up
with
some
program
and
policy
recommendation
related
to
place
making
paint
markings
wayfinding
signage
bike
parking.
We
developed
a
new
acronym
trod
instead
of
transit,
oriented
development.
It's
trail
oriented
development
with
the
idea
that,
as
part
of
these
trail
furthers
develop
further
develops
that
we
can
actually
have
our
developers
front
on
that
and
focus
on
that
trail
as
an
amenity
and
a
way
to
boost
their
development,
traffic,
calming
policies
and
then
finally,
mobility
hubs
at
key
locations
so
places
where
people
can
really
connect
to
our
transportation
network.
Better.
J
J
We
have
come
to
this
realization
that
there
is
no
one
great
alignment
for
parley's
trail
through
sugar
house.
There
are
a
lot
of
great
alignments
for
parliament
trail
through
sugar
house.
Sugarhouse
is
a
destination
for
a
lot
of
people
who
are
using
the
trail,
and
so
in
a
way
I
like
to
use
the
analogy
of
a
braided
rope
where
you
have
the
trail
coming
in
along
the
s
line
from
the
west,
and
you
have
the
trail
on
the
park
from
the
park
on
the
east
and
in
between
those
two
points.
J
It's
almost
like
it
unbraids
and
there's
multiple
paths
that
people
take,
depending
on
their
destination,
comfort
level
desire
for
what
they're
wanting
to
experience
in
that
area.
That
being
said,
we
still
need
to
have
an
official,
really
good
route
for
parley's
trail
in
that
area,
and
so
on.
This
map
you'll
notice
that
there
are
multiple
lines
that
we've
drawn.
J
We
believe
all
these
connections
are
important,
but
we
really
want
to
emphasize
what
would
be
the
best
connection
for
parley's
trail,
and
our
study
is
recommending
that
the
green
alignment
that
you
see
here,
that
kind
of
goes
from
hidden
hollow
through
the
sugar
house
development.
I
wonder
if
I
can
just
run
my
mouse
there.
J
There
we
go
through
the
the
sugar
house,
common
developments
over
to
highland
drive
across
at
the
new
hawk
signal
that
we
just
built
on
highland
and
then
in
front
of
the
sugar
alley.
Development,
the
zions
bank
and
then
back
over
seems
to
be
the
most
direct
and
comfortable
route
for
people
to
take
in
the
future.
J
J
And
then
we've
been
hearing
that
the
sugar
house,
commons
project,
is
wanting
to
redevelop
sometime
soon
and
so
keep
this
in
the
back
of
your
mind
that
at
some
point,
you'll
see
that
come
back
and
wouldn't
it
be
great
if
we
could
get
parley's
trail
to
connect
through
sugarhouse
commons
from
one
end
to
the
other,
that
that
would
really
make
a
great
connection.
In
the
meantime,
we
still
have
a
good
path
on
wilmington
and
that's
the
current
alignment
for
the
parley
trail.
J
J
I
want
to
jump
to
one
more
I'm
going
to
just
jump
way
forward
here
for
a
minute.
If
you
guys
don't
mind
and
as
I
said,
all
this
is
available
online-
hopefully
you've
had
a
chance
to
review
some
of
this.
There
is
a
map
that
we
created.
That,
I
think,
is
incredibly
telling.
This
is
our
bicycle.
Travel
shed
analysis
and
take
it
just
take
a
minute
for
the
map
to
catch
up.
We
looked
at
if
you
were
to
take
a
bike
trip
from
the
plaza
and
sugar
house.
J
J
J
Perfect
at
the
completion
of
our
circulation
study,
we
then
focused
on
transit
connections
and
our
transit
study
was
really
focused
on
what
kind
of
transit
connection
do
we
need
to
provide
between
sugar
house
mill,
creek
and
holiday,
and-
and
that
was
the
extent
of
what
we
were
studying.
We
weren't
really
looking
at
the
future
phases
of
the
s
line.
Those
have
already
been
studied,
there's
already
an
adopted
alignment.
J
What's
the
right
thing
to
do,
and
you
can
kind
of
see
that
here
enhanced
by
streetcar
brt
light
rail
just
to
kind
of
emphasize
the
differences
between
these
enhanced
bus
would
be
taking
the
bus
route
that
we
have
on
these
roads
already,
consolidating
it,
making
it
more
frequent
right
now,
the
220
and
the
213
service,
these
two
roads,
213
comes
down,
11th,
east
and
and
kind
of
goes
hits
13th
east
and
then
goes
down
that
way.
The
220
comes
down
13th
and
then
jogs
down
on
highland
drive.
J
J
That
should
come
into
play
this
august,
but
the
idea
is
to
take
the
bus
that
we
have
out
there
and
make
the
best
of
it
that
we
can,
let's
make
it
higher
frequency,
let's
even
consider
making
an
electric
bus,
let's
brand
it.
Let's
give
it
a
better
name
than
just
213
220..
Let's,
let's
try
to
have
people
understand
where
it's
going
and
why
add
some,
some
better
bus
stops
station
platforms
for
them
to
to
service
their
their
their
customers.
Make
it
attractive,
make
it
as
attractive
as
we
possibly
can
even
consider.
J
Looking
at
signal
timing
adjustments
where
we
could
give
the
bus
transit
priority
along
the
corridor.
But
the
fundamental
thing
about
enhanced
bus
is
that
it
keeps
the
bus
within
the
existing
right-of-way.
It
doesn't
require
us
to
widen.
It
doesn't
require
us
to
add
lanes
for
bus
lanes,
and
so
that's
the
biggest
difference
between
our
enhanced
bus
and
the
brt
brt
would
be
at
least
half
of
that
route.
J
We're
widening
the
road,
we're
adding
transit
lanes
and
there's
a
big
impact
associated
with
that
streetcar
would
be
enhanced
bus,
but
on
a
rail
and,
ironically
enough,
there's
a
lot
of
people
in
the
community
that
still
don't
understand
what
a
streetcar
is,
because
we
don't
really
have
a
great
example.
We
have
the
s
line
which
operates
and
functions
like
a
street
car,
but
it
doesn't
run
in
street
and
that's
the
differentiator
here
a
streetcar
would
be
in
running
in
lane
mixed
with
traffic
and
again.
J
The
reason
to
do
streetcar
is
that
it
would
allow
us
to
do
this
within
the
existing
footprint
of
the
roadway
we
have
without
buying
a
bunch
of
property,
knocking
down
homes
and
widening
light.
Rail
would
be
the
step
up
from
that,
where
we
actually
give
it
a
dedicated
right-of-way.
We
have
to
widen
the
roadway,
we
have
to
purchase
a
bunch
of
homes
and
and-
and
so
it's
kind
of
the
way
to
think
about
it-
enhance
bus
street
car,
don't
require
a
lot
of
widening
brt
and
light
rail.
J
J
J
J
And
fundamentally,
what
we
came
down
to
in
the
end
and
what
our
recommendation
is
is
that
we
do
the
enhanced
bus
on
highland
drive
as
a
temporary
or
interim
solution
for
the
next
10
20
plus
years,
until
we
actually
have
enough
ridership
using
it
to
justify
going
to
a
higher
quality
street
car
or
other
type
of
technology.
That
gives
us
a
high
capacity
high
high
service,
high
frequency
type
type
facility.
J
A
B
J
Is
our
streetcar
vehicle
has
a
slightly
larger
capacity
than
a
bus,
which
is
why
we
view
that
as
a
higher
capacity
system?
Ultimately,
we
we
think
that
these
communities
need
better
transit.
We
can't
wind
the
roads,
we're
going
to
have
travel
demand.
The
only
way
to
service
it
with
tr
is
with
transit,
and
so
that's
why
our
recommendation
is
what
it
is.
J
We
don't
see
the
streetcar
as
being
something
we
can
afford
and
build
right
now
or
in
the
next
10
to
20
years,
but
someday
we're
going
to
need
something
better
than
just
a
bus,
and
that's
really
what
our
recommendation
is.
It's
a
nod
towards
some
day
we're
going
to
need
better
than
this.
It's
not
going
to
be
enough,
but
for
now
it's
what
we
can
it's
what
we
can
do.
A
J
That
is
a
fantastic
comment
and
actually,
I
think,
the
first
person
I've
heard
bring
up
that
comment.
So
I
think
the
reason
why
we
didn't
look
so
much
at
the
mcclellan
trail
was
this:
the
concept
that
our
scope
was
focused
more
on
our
road
on
on
the
roadways
that
we
have
out
here.
The
highland
drive
13th
east,
but
that's
a
really
valid
comet.
So.
A
J
D
A
Would
have
been
the
opportunity
to
actually
address
that
to
get
a
north
south
trail
along
that
line,
which
is
the
vision
of
the
mcclellan
trail
to
get
you
into
brickyard
via
foot
or
a
bicycle,
and
so
you've
missed
that
opportunity
to
expand
that
trail.
That
has
been
talked
about
for
a
long
time.
Oh
for
sure.
J
J
So
if
I
may,
I
will
open
up
our
cut
sheet
for
the
connections
between
mill,
creek
and
sugarhouse
and
you'll
have
to
forgive
me.
It's
been
like
a
year
and
a
half
since
we
finished
the
circulation
study,
so
I
may
there
may
be
something
here
and
I'm
just
not
recollecting
it.
So
if
you
give
me
a
minute
I'll
pull
it
up,
it's
amazing
how
long
it
takes
to
get
through
as
much
as
we
did
and
the
pandemic
definitely
delayed
us
about
a
year.
Just
just
to
put
that
in
context.
J
J
A
J
A
Yeah,
so
that's
I'm
demerit,
okay,
we'll
move
on
to
the
noted.
Thank
you
we'll
move
on
to
the
parley's
trail.
I
think
that
this
is
my
neighborhood,
so
I
know
the
stay
ready.
I.
Why
did
you
not
have
a
path
that
gets
you
off
the
streetcar?
You
go
slightly
east
and
then
you
jog
through
that
new
opening
of
the
behemoth
sugar
month
thing
to
the
the
new
road
elm
street.
That
would
then
connect
you
exactly
to
wilmington.
A
H
A
J
A
I
think
people
will
absolutely
frequent
bike
rider
who,
who
rides
from
irving's
schoolhouse
through
hidden
hollow
to
get
to
the
s
line
or
vice
versa,
to
the
park.
I
am
trying
to
not
be
on
highland
as
much
as
possible,
so
the
easier
alignments
from
wilmington
right
through
to
that
new
road
on
elm
is
perfect
and
I've
been
waiting
for
that
to
open
and
when
it
did
it's
great.
So
again
I
don't
I
mean
I
don't
think
the
screen
line
is
where
people
are
writing.
A
Anything
I
do
that
orange
line
and
then
pop
out
to
wilmington.
I
don't
pop
out
to
highland
pop
out
to
wilmington
to
get
down,
so
I
think
we
still
have
I'm
not
happy
with
the
slayment
either,
because
I
don't
think
it's
what
what
we're
doing
on
the
ground,
yeah
and
yeah
as
the
commons
redevelops
that'll
be
fun.
There
are
a
lot
of
opportunities
to
make
this
better,
but
I
don't
know
that
this
is
this,
isn't
an
alignment
that
I
would
get
behind?
A
Okay.
So
if
we
move
on
to
the
transportation
part,
the
the
transit
part-
and
we
do
the
enhanced
bus
route,
which
I'm
not
against
that
either.
But
what
because
that
road
in
front
of
brickyard
is
mill
creek
correct,
because
we
know
on
the
east
side
it's
mill
creek
on
the
the
west
side.
Brickyard
is
salt
lake
city,
but
who
owns
that
road?
That
section
of
the
road
by
33rd
south.
J
Richmond
street
is
a
sticky
one,
so
it's
within
mill
creek's
boundaries.
Their
boundary
goes
right
up
to
the
back
of
curb
on
the
west
side
of
the
road
okay,
but
it
used
to
be
a
udot
road
and
with
the
jurisdictional
transfer
that
happened
a
number
of
years
ago,
we're
under
the
impression
that
it's
still
salt
lake
city's
road
to
maintain
and
mill.
J
Creek
is
also
really
happy
with
that
perception,
because
they
don't
have
to
pay
to
maintain
it,
and
so
there's
the
the
the
current
belief
about
that
road
is
that
it
is
salt
lake
city's
road,
even
though
it
sits
within
mill,
creek's
boundaries
and
boy
that
gets
sticky.
It
gets
really
messy
right.
There.
A
So
that
road
is
over
wide
yeah,
it
does
load
on
that
road.
It
does
not
necessitate
four
lanes
and
a
dedicated
turn
throughout
the
whole
thing,
and
so,
if
we
do
enhance
best
route,
what
in
this
plan
is
addressing,
then
the
ability
for
a
little
pedestrian,
usually
like
little
old,
lady
or
whatever,
to
actually
get
across
this
enormously
wide
street.
A
That
doesn't
need
to
be
this
wide
because
the
wider
it
is
the
traffic
disperses
and
they
fly
right
because
they
can
they
have
the
space
and
people
will
drive
as
fast
as
they
feel
comfortable,
regardless
of
the
speed
limit.
So
what
is
in
this
plan,
then,
with
this
enhanced
bus
or
any
and
type
of
transit
options
that
we
elevate
to
that
are
going
to
provide
us
with
some
infrastructure
to
help
people
be
crossing
this
road?
A
A
Terms
are
great,
but
four
lanes
on
both
sides
is
way
too
much
for
the
load
on
that.
Where
you
have
bus
stops,
you've
got
to
be
able
to,
especially
at
brickyard,
because
that's
your
destination,
but
all
along
that
route.
You've
got
to
have
some
vision
of
how
you're
going
to
be
creating
an
environment
that
people
can
cross
that
they
want
to
cross
that
it's
safe,
because
right
now
you
might
as
well
take
your
life
into
your
hands.
J
J
Yeah
on
and
and
and
so
we've
got
a
project
coming
up
where
we're
gonna
actually
be
able
to
implement
some
of
this.
Now
the
project
is
not
funded
all
the
way
to
33rd.
Where
we
stop
at
30th.
We
don't
have
enough
money
to
do
the
mill
creek
section,
and
so
the
section
north
of
there
we're
planning
on
adding
a
new
hawk
signal
at
elgin.
No
zenith
elgin
is
south
of
there,
so
zenith
and.
A
If
you
had
that
on
highland
kudos
richmond,
that
is
just
such
a
wide
road.
Not
only
do
you
need
enhanced
pedestrian
crossing,
but
we
need
to
reconfigure
how
that
traffic
is
flowing.
So
we
don't
have
four
lanes
in
a
dedicated
turn,
because
we
don't
the
traffic
numbers,
don't
warrant
that
and
how
you
then
reconfigure
that,
with
your
enhanced
bus
route
with
enhanced
pedestrian
measures,
I
think
is
the
only
way
that
will
succeed.
A
J
Together
and
getting
in
the
room,
their
vision
for
that
area
with
the
new
village
center
new
downtown
that
they're
creating
is
that
highland
drive
becomes
a
very
walkable
pedestrian
friendly
facility
and
that
13th
east
serves
as
their
as
their
as
their
vehicle
facility.
That's
their
perspective.
Now,
whether
or
not
we
like
that
perspective
is
something
we
could
debate,
but.
A
A
C
I'm
sorry
for
the
sugar
house
business
district
in
2013..
That
was
a
big
study
where
the
sugar
house,
community
council,
with
participation
from
many
residents
in
the
area,
took
the
position
that
the
streetcar
alignment
should
go
up.
21St
south,
rather
than
11th
east
I've
attached
my
letter
from
the
city
council.
We
reviewed
this
current
plan
in
the
land-use
and
zoning
meeting
a
week
ago,
because
the
transportation
committee
wasn't
meeting
and
agreed.
That's
still
our
preference.
C
So
that's
opposite
of
all
the
people
that
answered
lynn's
questionnaire,
I'd
like
to
think
we
have
a
bigger
vision
for
sugar
house,
but
I
don't
know
the
plan
is
lofty
goals
with
some
sort
of
new
transportation
mode
along
highland
drive,
brt,
enhanced
bus
or
maybe
a
streetcar
we
agree.
Highland
is
the
best
route.
C
Plant
13th
east
is
difficult
because
of
the
bridge
over
the
freeway,
so
the
plan
is
building
on
previous
transit
plans,
including
plant
salt
lake
and
the
salt
lake
transit
master
plan,
many
good
things
that
will
come
out
of
this,
such
as
finalizing
the
parley's
trail.
We
talked
about
that
and
then
and
some
signs.
C
C
But
if
you
consider
the
number
of
cars
each
day
that
travel
that
street
and
you
take
one
traffic
lane
away,
you
have
to
consider
the
consequences
on
the
other
neighboring
streets
to
encourage
people
to
come
to
sugar
house.
There
needs
to
be
frequent
bus
service,
benches,
shelters,
trees
for
shade
and
snow
removal.
C
C
C
C
If
you
have
to
put
a
bike
lane
everywhere
now,
you
need
to
look
carefully
at
the
businesses.
It
might
be
time
to
start
thinking
about
a
parking
authority
in
sugar
house.
That's
a
four
letter
word.
I
know
so.
People
don't
have
to
move
their
cars
from
one
parking
lot
to
another
when
they
run
their
errands.
C
C
Will
they
ever
figure
out
where
that
last
block
of
tracks
is
going
to
go
with
good
signage,
and
so
people
can
navigate
the
trail?
Maybe
it's
time
for
the
green
bike
to
come
to
sugar
house
and
the
old
dui
parcel
could
be
an
intermodal
hub
with
bike
repair
bike
lockers
and
the
trail
and
the
s-line
intersect
and
affordable
housing
on
the
second
to
the
eighth
floor,
it's
time
to
get
moving
finish
the
plans
and
start
building.
Thank
you.
H
C
E
I
I
I
felt
a
bit
duped
by
the
study.
I
took
the
first
survey.
I
took
the
second
I've
been
involved
in
the
city
council
meetings.
I've
talked
reached
out
to
lynn
and
he's
been
a
great
guy
answering
questions,
because
when
the
study
originally
came
out,
it
asked
us
do
you
want
to
see
mass
transit,
public
transportation
on
13th
or
highland?
I
It
was
never
explained
to
us
that
that
section
between
the
cross
of
highland
and
13th,
clear
up
to
the
sugar
house
shopping
district
was
always
going
to
be
a
part
of
it.
So
when
I'm
voting
I'm
looking
at
well
yeah,
I
love
the
idea
of
bringing
it
clear
up
to
sugar
house
park,
bring
it
down
13th,
where
we've
got
a
six
lane
road
with
a
huge
center
median.
I
We've
got
vegetation
off
on
either
side
of
it.
There's
if
you
count
the
houses
that
face
that
section.
It's
not
a
lot.
We've
got
walls
fences
so
to
bring
it
down
a
one
lane
each
direction
section
which
on
the
survey
also
they
referred
to
highland
as
two
lanes.
Each
way
I
had
to
point
it
out
to
them
that
that
felt
a
bit
mischievous
because
they
weren't
being
honest.
There
is
a
one
lane
each
way
section.
So
if
safety
is
a
part
of
this,
we
just
got
crosswalks
on
our
section
of
highland.
I
We
got
bike
lanes
which
took
away
some
of
our
parking.
That's
fine!
I
think
it's
a
much
safer
option,
putting
the
enhanced
buses.
I
love
the
idea,
especially
if
we
can
go
electric,
as
that
previous
speaker
said,
but
putting
a
shared
lane,
whether
it's
any
type
of
train
trolley.
What
have
you
really
scares
me
when
we've
got
one
exit
on
my
west
east
east
side
of
highland?
That's.
F
F
F
Shortly
after
that
plan
was
adopted
in
2001,
south
salt
lake
unanimously
opposed
the
development
of
a
transit
corridor
where
it
now
exists.
The
three
critical
decisions
that
reversed
south
salt
lake
city
council's
decision
and
unanimously
unanimously
supported
the
streetcar
development,
where
a
low-speed
circulator
connecting
essential
services
connecting
to
regional
transit
services
at
both
ends
and
connecting
especially
to
the
green
space
at
sugarhouse
park.
The
original
planning
of
the
s-line
envisioned
a
circulator
connecting
downtown
south
salt
lake
and
sugar
house
and
connecting
all
the
way
to
1300
east
and
sugar
house
park.
F
The
residents
of
sugar
house
have
largely
continued
to
support
this
preference.
This
study
perpetuates
what
I
think
is
a
flaw
in
the
subsequent
phase.
Two
alignment
study
for
the
extension
of
the
streetcar
up
highland
drive
and
11th
east
sugarhouse
park
is
not
only
one
of
the
most
important
character
defining
features
of
sugar
house.
It
is
also
one
of
the
most
frequent
destinations
on
a
daily
basis
as
the
growth
of
homes
without
yards
increases
with
the
planned
urbanization
of
sugar
house
in
the
business
district
corps
and
now
mill
creek.
F
I
say
one
more
quick
thing
not
related
to
this.
It
is
time
to
update
the
sugar
house
master
plan
you're
our
voice
of
the
community,
and
we
I
would
like
to
ask
that
the
planning
commission,
since
you
don't
have
public
comments
or
a
way
to
make
that
I
would
like
to
see
you
help
us
initiate
a
sugar
house
master
plan
up.
Thank.
A
A
I
didn't
say
anything
about
that.
I
get
okay,
so
I'm
just
going
to
say
this
is
a
huge
project.
It's
behemoth,
there's
so
much
going
on
in
this
area,
so
I
do
commend
how
much
you
tackled
regardless.
If
I
disagree
with
certain
parts
of
your
outcomes,
you
know,
and
speaking
to
the
comment
we
just
received
about
phase
two
of
the
circulation
plan
with
this
streetcar,
it's
always
been
my
belief
that
the
the
formula
used
to
determine
the
preferred
alternative
was
flawed
because
it
gave
it
gave
points
for
population
along
the
routes.
A
A
I
think
that
route
would
have
far
outweighed
what
we
did.
So
you
know
to
bring
that
back
up.
I
do
think
I
understand
why
you
just
went
with
the
preferred
alternative,
but
yeah
at
some
point.
I've
always
thought
I'm
gonna
have
to
advocate
for
a
re-look
at
that,
because
I
don't
think
that
formula
was
remotely
accurate.
J
J
Everything
else
is
super
controversial
and
complicated,
and
but
you
know
our
assumption
was
it's
in
place.
I
will
speak
to
our
modeling.
You
know
as
we
as
we
looked
at
this.
If
we
didn't
have
the
connection
to
downtown
or
to
the
u,
there
was
not
a
lot
of
ridership
that
we
generated
just
connecting
to
your
house
to
mill,
creek
and
holiday,
that
there's
not
enough
demand
there
right
now
or
in
the
near
term
so
but
someday
there
will
be.
A
A
A
I
mean
the
circulation
plan
for
sugar
house
was
done
in
2013,
so
we
don't
get
a
lot
of
bites
at
this,
but
I
don't
I
don't
like
what's
in
this,
but
I
think
the
opportunity
for
it
to
be
better
is
coming,
and
so
it
might
just
be
like
here's.
A
temporary
route
yeah
but
leaving
out
mcclellan
trail
is,
is
a
big
deal.
I
think
we
have
really
good
connection
trail
wise
to
south
salt
lake
with
the
greenway.
I
love
the
greenway
and
I
love
traveling
on
it.
A
D
J
The
the
parley's
trail
recommendation
that
you're
seeing
here
is
the
work
of
hundreds
of
hours
of
meeting
with
property
owners
pratt
thinking
through
all
the
different
options.
Thinking
about
what
has
already
been
developed,
the
opportunities
that
have
been
missed
and
opportunities
that
are
coming,
and
so
I
mean
for
us
to
go
back
and
revisit
that.
We
certainly
can,
if
that's
the
direction
we're
given,
but
it
will
not
be
a
very
easy
or
short
process.
A
J
J
If
I
may
speak
to
the
mcclellan
trail
for
a
minute
the
issues
at
greystone,
I
mean
there
have
been
study
after
study
after
study
that
have
tried
to
solve
and
answer
that
and
to
my
understanding,
we've
never
been
able
to
solve
that
problem.
So
if
you
make
your
motion
continued
on
that,
it
might
be
impossible
for
us
to
solve
that
issue.
A
D
Well,
I
don't
see
that
we're
going
to
resolve
any
of
these
issues,
so
I
will
make
a
motion
to
forward
a
positive
recommendation
to
the
city
council,
based
on
the
information
in
the
staff
report,
the
information
presented
and
the
input
received
during
the
public
hearing
and
the
discussion
at
the
commission.
I
move
that
the
planning
commission
recommend
that
the
city
council
adopt
the
proposed
modifications
to
the
sugar
house
circulation
plan.
A
B
F
A
A
F
F
A
K
The
purpose
of
this
presentation
are
you
able
to
hear
me?
No,
I
hope
this
is
better.
The
purpose
of
this
presentation
is
to
review
modifications
made
to
the
ballpark
station
area
plan
as
a
result
of
the
june
8th
work
session
meeting
to
receive
additional
comments
from
the
commission
and
the
public
during
the
public
hearing
and
possibly
make
a
recommendation
to
city
council
on
the
small
area
plan.
K
The
ballpark
station
area
plan
was
initiated
by
the
mayor
in
december
2020.
The
consultant
was
gsbs
who
staff
work
closely
with
to
identify
goals
for
the
future
development
of
the
community.
The
station
area
plan
is
intended
to
capitalize
on
community
assets
and
guide
future
development
and
redevelopment
in
the
community.
K
The
small
area
plans
boundaries
are
within
both
the
central
community
master
plan
and
the
downtown
master
plan.
The
boundary
includes
the
neighborhoods
within
I-15
to
the
west
side,
to
the
west
side
of
state
street
and
900
south
to
1700
1700
south,
as
reviewed
during
the
commission's
work
session
and
the
community
council
meetings.
The
key
concepts
of
the
plan
include
the
proposed
six
big
moves,
goals,
strategies
and
actions
in
the
plan.
K
When
the
process
first
began
in
december
2020,
the
consultant
and
city
staff
spent
approximately
nine
months
identifying
goals
and
meetings
with
community
members
and
stakeholders,
a
steering
committee
was
formed
and
they
met
to
discuss
and
make
recommendations
throughout
2021
staff
in
the
consultant
attended.
Multiple
community
council
meetings
to
answer
questions
take
comments
and
receive
feedback
during
the
creation
of
the
ballpark
station
area
plan.
Other
adopted
city
plans
were
integrated
into
the
draft
plan.
K
The
draft
ballpark
station
area
plan
furthers
the
goals
and
policies
within
planned
salt
lake
growing
slc,
the
central
community
master
plan
down
the
downtown
master
plan
and
reimagine
nature.
The
other
plans
that
were
integrated
into
the
step.
The
draft
plan
but
haven't
been
adopted
were
life
on
state
the
homeless,
resource,
center's,
neighborhood
action
strategies
and
thrive.
K
K
During
the
planning
commission's
work
session
on
june
8th,
some,
several
key
topics
were
brought
up
and
discussed.
Some
of
these
items
of
discussion
resulted
in
modifications
to
the
draft
plan,
while
others
are
addressed
here
by
or
in
the
staff
report,
by
reviewing
other
areas
in
the
plan
that
would
affect
the
item
or
a
discussion
of
the
reasoning
behind
the
initial
decision.
K
The
majority
of
the
discussion
during
june
8th
work
session
was
concerned
about
direct
access
for
bike
routes
and
possibly
having
bike
routes
on
1300
south.
On
page
12
of
the
draft
plan
within
the
strategies
and
action
section,
it's
recommended
that
a
future
study
be
conducted
to
reconfigure
1300
south
to
allow
for
different
modes
of
transport
as
a
result
of
the
work
session
discussion
and
further
calibration
with
the
city's
transportation
division.
The
implementation
plan
in
the
draft
plan
was
updated
to
include
the
process
for
this
future
study
and
technical
considerations
for
the
implementation.
K
Another
concern
in
regard
to
connectivity
and
accessibility
was
whether
there
are
sufficient,
sidewalks
or
crosswalks,
rather
from
the
track
station
to
the
south
side
of
1300
south.
The
draft
small
area
plan
proposes
a
sidewalk
to
the
east
and
west
sides
of
the
ut
uta
crossing
barrier
on
1300
south,
in
addition
to
a
crosswalk
at
13.
K
The
other
item
of
consideration
was
a
bike
crossing
on
paxton
avenue
at
state
street.
The
pedestrian
bicycle
master
plan
recommends
an
east-west
bicycle
route
on
herbert
and
yell
avenues
and
would
include
an
improved
crossing
across
state
state
street,
because
state
street
is
a
state-owned
street.
Coordination
with
utah
would
be
needed
to
determine
the
type
of
crossing
in
the
time
frame
of
construction
of
that
crossing.
K
An
action
item
that
was
called
for
raised
crosswalks
was
also
corrected
on
page
20
of
the
draft
plan.
The
action
item
was
modified
so
that
the
improved
pedestrian
crossings
would
highlight
the
pedestrian
and
calm
traffic
instead
of
asking
for
a
raised
crosswalk
and
then
the
final
transportation
item
that
was
addressed
was
to
ensure
1700
south.
As
I
might
multi-multi
multi-modal
route.
K
K
K
The
final
item
of
concern
was
over
jefferson
park.
Mixed
use
area
on
the
future
land
use
map.
This
land
use
designation
was
created
in
response
to
a
number
of
public
comments
received.
It
was
originally
labeled
as
medium
density
residential,
but
with
staff
reviewed
it
another
time
a
second
time
and
the
future
land
use
map
was
updated
to
be
jefferson
park.
Mixed
use
area
that
would
allow
for
greater
building
heights
along
200,
west
and
west
temple,
while
limiting
density
and
building
skill
on
jefferson
street
and
the
interior
avenue
streets.
A
R
Thank
you
again.
My
name
is
sash
combs
and
I've
been
asked
to
represent
the
community
council
in
the
absence
of
amy
hawkins,
and
then
I
think
jeff
is
doesn't
want
to
speak
either.
So
so
again,
just
my
background.
I'm
a
long
time
resident
homeowner,
I'm
also
a
former
ballpark
community
council
board
member
and
then
I've
been
part
of
this
ballpark
stationary
planning
kind
of
steering
committee.
If
that's
what
it's
we're,
calling
it
first
off,
I
the
council
would
like
to
state.
R
The
stationary
plan
has
been
a
true
grassroots
effort
with
many
stakeholders
engaged
it's
it's
been
great
to
be
part
of
myself
and
I've
learned
a
lot
and
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
local
residents
involved
business
owners.
You
know
the
cities
have
been
engaged
as
city
leaders,
and
so
it's
been
a
a
great
effort.
R
R
R
You
know
this
was
a
theme
in
the
central
community
master
plan,
and
then
it's
kind
of
carried
into
this
ballpark
station
area
plan
the
areas
that
the
council
feels
that
there
could
be
more
input
and
additional
focus
is
these
kind
of
four
points
importance.
You
know
kind
of
the
importance
and
the
priority
of
the
green
space
and
trees.
R
We
feel
that
there's
more
opportunity
to
kind
of
expand
on
that
the
development
guidance
to
increase
public
safety.
In
light
of
the
recent,
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
recent
uptick
but
there's
a
trend
in
the
wrong
direction
for
crime.
In
the
ballpark
area,
and
so
we
feel
like
there's
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
layer
in
some
more
guidance
on
public
safety,
including
street
lightings,
pedestrian
lighting,
etc.
R
R
R
E
I
know
the
feeling
and
that's
the
silent
majority
out
there,
I'm
claudia
johnson,
I'm
sitting
here
being
very
frustrated
about
many
things
that
I
keep
hearing
and
but
what
I
came
for
was
the
ballpark,
and
that
was
that
the
pictures
that
are
there
and
the
statements
that
are
there.
The
picture
does
not
represent
what
it
is
and
they
do
a
rendering
and-
and
it's
not
even
the
same,
dealing
with
the
same
issues.
So
I
can't
compare
apples
to
apples.
E
I
can
compare
apples
to
pears,
but
I
can't
do
apples
to
apples
so
that
really
made
it
difficult
for
me
to
look
at
that
report
and
try
to
understand
what
it
is.
I
like
the
idea,
because
it
needs
a
lot
of
help
in
that
area.
But
what
I
didn't
like
is
the
fact
there's
so
much
extra
fluffy
words
in
there
that
I
couldn't
wade
through.
E
See
that-
and
I
maybe
have
missed
this-
that
there's
a
timeline
that
says
we're
going
to
do
this
in
phase
one
this
and
phase
two,
this
and
phase
three,
four,
five,
whatever
it
is
and
we'll
have
it
done
in
this
time
frame,
which
I'm
sure
extending
the
time
that
you
guys
need
to
be
able
to
evaluate
it
and
that's
what
was
great
about
having
a
district
be
able
to
look
at
that.
But
I
don't
see
a
timeline
that
says:
let's
do
it
in
phases.
E
Seen
a
lot
of
changes-
and
I
see
that
the
planning
commission
made
a
change
that
oh,
we
can
change
the
zoning,
but
if
they
hadn't
changed
the
zoning
they
could
have
kept
that
rail
line
going
right
straight
through
sugar
house
up
to
13th
east,
but
they
changed
it,
and
so
now
they
could
build
out
that
way.
And
now
you
can't
run
that
s-line.
E
E
A
A
S
I
have
worked
on
almost
all
of
the
small
area
plans
in
the
central
community
since
that
time,
and
I
am
a
huge
fan
of
the
planning
tool
to
solve
complex
land
use
issues
facing
neighborhoods
in
the
central
community,
especially
east
central
relative,
to
the
plans
I
have
worked
on.
The
scope
of
this
small
area
plan
is
actually
large.
S
Frequently
the
plans
have
been
a
single
block
or
a
commercial
node.
The
proposal
here
covers
a
much
larger
area.
It
could
more
appropriately
be
called
a
large
small
area
plan
and
now
for
the
elephant
in
the
room,
which
actually
has
already
been
referenced.
Small
area
plans
in
my
experience
have
been
initiated
by
challenging
issues
facing
a
defined
area.
For
example,
the
smith's
loading
dock
at
9th
and
9th
this
plan
does
not
begin
where
other
plans
begin.
It
doesn't
start
where
the
neighborhood
is.
S
The
pressing
issues
are
crime,
personal
safety
and
displacement
of
business,
people
and
residents.
This
is
where
the
plan
has
to
start,
because
moving
the
conversation
to
a
festival
street
is
a
long
way
from
where
we
are
and
a
starting
point
regarding
crime
and
making
the
neighborhood
safer
is
essential
to
affect
the
perceptions
of
this
neighborhood
connectivity.
The
darling
concept
of
planners
is
a
bad
idea
for
the
foreseeable
future.
Increasing
home
ownership
already
mentioned
substantially
would
help
and
additional
public
spaces
where
people
who
are
not
law
abiding
can
gather
is
not
a
good
idea
at
all.
S
C
A
C
The
ballpark
station
area
plan
contains
several
admirable
elements
regarding
safe
pedestrian
and
bicycle
mobility.
Enhancing
the
social
and
shopping
scene
around
the
park
could
ask
add
a
nice
vibe
to
the
area.
Future
development
of
green
spaces,
a
library
and
community
center
would
be
welcomed
additions
but
as
amy
hawkins,
ballpark
community
council
chair
so
correctly
pointed
out
in
her
letter.
C
It
will
allow
new
massive
structures,
eight
and
ten
stories
high,
which,
except
for
a
six-story
apartment
on
13th
east,
that
is
now
under
construction,
are
out
of
scale
and
size
and
character
to
anything
seen
before
in
ballpark,
homes
will
be
lost,
especially
those
concentrated
in
the
so-called
jefferson
park,
mixed
youth
area
between
pax
and
elluci
streets,
where
mid-range
home
town
homes
and
apartments
all
at
market
rates
are
taking
over.
Having
just
received
news
from
the
thriving
and
place
study,
the
gentrification
and
housing
displacement
in
salt
lake
are
occurring
at
harmful
levels
to
existing
residents.
C
The
question
must
be
asked:
do
plans
like
the
ballpark
station
area
plan
actually
contribute
to
the
very
problem
the
city
says
it
wants
to
prevent
the
bottom
line.
Is
this?
The
ballpark
station
area
plan
seems
like
a
high
risk
reward
concept.
The
salt
lake
bees
play
144
games,
but
only
half
72
are
in
salt
lake.
C
That's
293
days
or
more
than
nine
months
when
the
stadium
sits
idle
planners
are
hedging
their
bet
that
all
the
new
aesthetics
and
street
activities
will
act
as
a
magnet
for
daytime
and
nighttime
guests
and
residents
year-round,
but
180
degrees
transformation
will
have
to
take
place
because
retail
shops
and
small
businesses
simply
don't
currently
exist.
There
amy
closed
her
official
letter
to
the
planning
commission
indicating
that
five
of
the
nine
ballpark
residents
who
served
on
the
stirring
committee
for
the
ballpark
plan
have
already
moved
away
and
another
resigned
from
the
night
central
ninth
community.
A
E
E
So
far,
we
have
contributed
about
400
housing
units
to
this
area
over
nine
projects.
Overall,
we
are
in
support
of
this
plan
and
feel
that
it
will
contribute
toward
the
guiding
the
ongoing
development
of
the
area.
However,
we
have
a
specific
concern
with
the
jefferson
park
mixed
use
area.
Within
this
area
we
are
currently
the
largest
land
owner,
where
we
own
six
properties
that
would
contribute
to
four
potential
multi-family
housing
projects.
E
Our
specific
concern
is
over
the
proposed
height
for
the
jefferson
and
avenue
streets,
which
is
called
out
to
be
two
to
three
stories,
whereas
the
adjoining
parcels
on
200,
west
and
west
temple
would
allow
five
to
seven
and
then
across
the
street
eight
to
ten.
This
development
pattern
for
taller
buildings
has
precedence,
as
the
most
recent
projects
completed
were
rezoned
from
rmf
35
to
rmu
to
rmu,
which
would
allow
the
the
five
to
seven
story
structures.
A
A
G
You
can
okay,
I
can
start
hi
thanks
just
to
explain.
I
was
the
project
manager
for
to
lead
this
effort
as
a
transportation
and
land
use
connection
project
and
then
nan
has
taken
over
for
the
adoption
process
in
terms
of,
and
then
we
had
planning
division
staff
who
were
involved
all
along
the
way.
So
we
do
have
an
implementation
plan.
G
G
G
It
or
you
know
I,
I
think
that
a
lot
of
those
a
lot
of
those
items
in
there
would
be
you
know,
city,
initiated
in
different
departments
and
divisions
throughout
the
city,
and
I
just
don't
know
how
common
it
is
to
have
like
actual
timelines
in
these
plans,
because
it
seems
like
typically,
you
guys
know
a
lot
better
than
I
do.
But
typically,
these
plans
sort
of
lay
out
the
framework
for
the
way
an
area
will
develop,
but
it
doesn't.
A
Is
the
so
it's
not.
I
guess
I'm
not
asking
like
okay
by
this
date.
We
do
this
by
the
state.
We
do
this,
but
have
you
identified
like
the
low-hanging
fruit
that
you
feel
like
you
could
accomplish
sooner
so
so
there's
two
ways
to
approach
it
right,
your
low-hanging
fruit,
what
you
can
accomplish
easier,
what
will
take
longer
because
it's
more
complex
versus
and
I've
just
lost
my
train
of
thought,
but
versus
like
your
priorities
like
all
right,
this
one
might
be
more
complex,
but
it's
really
important
right.
G
Yeah
and
sorry,
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
try
to
jump
in,
but
I
do
think
in
terms
of
low
hanging
fruit.
We
we
have
started
to
look
at
that,
especially
in
terms
of
the
transportation,
for
instance
like
trying
to
get
crosswalks
adjacent
to
the
tracks.
Lines
itself
was
something
that
a
lot
of
people
talked
about
and
that
you
can
witness
people
doing
anyway.
Without
there
being
a
crosswalk
there,
people
will
just
cross.
H
E
K
So
the
the
reasoning
behind
the
jefferson
park,
mixed
use,
area,
building,
height,
recommendations
on
the
future
land
use
map.
They
were
based,
one
on
the
different
zoning
districts
that
we've
found
on
our
zoning
zoning
map
on
200,
west
and
west
temple
versus
the
avenue
streets.
I
think
that
there
was
one
or
two
parcels
that
were
zoned
rmu
on
gold's
avenue,
but
then
the
rest
were
rmf
35..
K
E
K
The
the
I
the
issue
in
the
jefferson
park
area
is
also
one
of
similar
to
paxton
avenue.
The
lot
sizes
are
pretty
small
and
they're
individually
owned.
So
you
would
be
you
know
the
rationale
behind
the
decision
was.
You
could
see
a
few
of
the
properties
consolidating
and
rezoning,
but
you
know
a
parcel.
That's
four
thousand
square
feet
trying
to
get
additional
building
height
over
three
feet.
Would
it
could
look
awkward.
B
I
have
a
similar
question
for
the
main
street.
I
had
been
rereading
this.
It's
a
pretty
good
doc,
pretty
dense
document,
but
one
of
the
things
was
the
medium
density
in
that
area.
I
wonder
if,
if
medium
density
is
enough
for
the
main
street,
because
if
you
want
walkability,
you
really
need
more
people,
and
I
think
the
transition
of
main
street
that's
happening
now
is
is
a
great
transition.
B
K
I
wasn't
in
on
the
decision-making
process
on
that
one,
but
I
know
that
that's
something
that
we
can
look
closer
into.
I
do
know
that
there's
language
in
the
ballpark
the
draft
plan
that
the
west
side
of
main
street
is
similar
in
building
scale
as
the
east
side,
but
I
can't
speak
to
why
that
medium
density
designation
was
made,
but
that's
something
we
can
look
more
into.
B
I
think
it'd
be
just
something
to
look
at,
because
if
you
really
want
to
activate
that,
I
think
you
need
a
little
more
density
and
it's
a
main
street,
so
I
feel
like
it
you're.
You
know.
When
you
go
to
other
cities
and
these
small
towns,
the
main
streets
are
usually
dead
because
there's
not
enough
people,
and
so
I
always
would.
I
would
love
our
main
street
to
be
more
active
and
I
think
bringing
more
people
into
that
main
street
is
how
you
do
that
so
yeah.
B
D
A
A
If
we
take
action
tonight
and
make
a
recommendation,
the
public
and
the
community
council
should
then
take
that
opportunity
and
start
meeting
with
our
city
council
member
and
continue
to
work
on
these.
These
items
that
they've
highlighted
because
the
city
council
can
make
whatever
decision
they
want
and
change
whatever
they
want.
K
K
E
E
F
E
E
G
About
the
main
street,
is
there
a
differentiation
at
all
between
main
street
to
the
north
of
13th,
south
and
main
street
to
the
south
of
13th
south?
I
know
that
south
of
13th
south
there
was
some
down
zoning
to
single-family
residential.
So
I
think
that
there
was
some
that
the
city
had
done
in
the
past,
so
I
think
there
was
some
consideration
in
the
plan
for
how
to
develop
adjacent
to
that
single-family
zone.
That's
south
of
south
of
the
ballpark
itself,
but
I
didn't
know
if,
in
your
comments,
commissioner,
if
you
made
any
differentiation,
I.
B
B
I
guess
I'm
not
really
sure
how
to
make
that
condition,
because
it
to
me
it's
something
to
continue
to
study,
but
it's
not
necessarily
something
I
would
say
like
this
has
to
happen
a
certain
way.
I
think
it's
something
that,
in
all
plans,
we
need
to
figure
out
a
way
to
include
like
some
sort
of
typically.
A
With
recommendations,
we
will
add,
if
there's
something
we
kind
of
specifically
want
to
highlight
for
the
city
council,
to
look
at,
make
your
recommendation
positive
or
negative.
If
it's
positive,
then
you
would
say,
with
the
comments
too,
to
ask
the
city
council
to
pay
special
attention
to
increasing
density
either
on
main
street
or
throughout
or
whatever
the
commission
thinks
is
important.
E
B
A
G
A
The
commission,
okay
to
like
power
through
the
last
public
item,
so
that
people
that
are
still
here
can
then
leave
while
we
still
have
to
stay,
but
instead
of
delaying
them
for
another
break.
Are
you
guys?
Okay,
all
right?
Let's
move
on
to
the
last
public
hearing
item:
it's
the
moderate
income,
housing
plan,
growing
slc
implementation
plan,
amendment
and.
A
T
T
D
T
So
I'm
going
to
go
over
a
couple
things
today,
I'm
going
to
be
talking
about
the
growing
slc
amendment,
which
is
the
implementation
plan
for
an
existing
plan
at
the
same
time
that
we're
going
through
this
process,
I'm
project
managing
the
new
housing
plan,
since
our
current
one
is
expiring,
called
housing
slc.
You
know
we'll
do
a
little
plug
tomorrow,
we're
having
our
launch
party
at
the
international
peace
gardens.
T
T
T
In
may
and
june
alone,
the
state
committed
15.6
million
dollars
in
transportation
funding
to
salt
lake
city
for
projects.
So
in
two
in
two
months
we
got
15.6
million
committed
to
us
from
the
transportation
team
or
transportation
committee
commission,
so
the
implementation
plan
has
been
available
at
slc.gov
can
slash
housing
plan.
T
T
The
growing
slc
implementation
plan
includes
a
number
of
things.
Some
of
them
are
programs.
Some
of
them
are
funding
options
that
the,
for
instance,
the
housing
stability
team
implements.
Some
are
items
that
the
rda
implements.
Some
are
items
that
are
zoning,
changes
that
this
body
has
heard
before.
So
nothing
on
this
is
anything
new,
and
I
want
to
state
that
any
action
or
recommendation
today
does
not
make
anything
go
into.
T
We
also
wanted
to
give
ourselves
a
little
bit
of
a
buffer.
In
case
anything
didn't
happen.
We
would
still
be
able
to
fall
back
on
on
six.
That
kind
of
we
could
get
done
in
doing
this,
and
last
time
I
I
presented
to
this
body,
I
mentioned
that
I
was
going
to
be
talking
with
council
staff.
I
have
since
talked
with
council
staff,
before
this
went
out
to
public
to
ensure
that
they
felt
comfortable
with
the
list
that
was
in
the
implementation
plan
as
well
and
council
staff.
We
talked
through
some
things.
T
I
received
two
comments
through
our
online
portal
and
a
couple
of
emails
which
you
should
have
received
in
your
dropbox,
and
most
of
one
of
those
comments
was
focusing
on
kind
of
the
need
to
address
deeply
affordable
housing.
The
mayor's
her
dedication
of
21
20.1
million
dollars
is
meant
to
target
that
at
least
a
portion
of
that
to
target
that
deeply
affordable
housing
that
we're
so
short
of,
and
so
that's
one
way
that
we're
addressing
it
as
well
as
housing.
T
T
A
C
Okay,
you
currently
have
a
number
of
housing
related
plans
or
text
amendments
being
written
waiting
for
approval
of
the
planning
commission.
In
the
city
council,
there
are
the
88
adu
overhaul
zoning
regulations
for
homeless
resource
centers,
affordable
housing
overlay,
which
is
now
the
affordable
housing
incentives,
which
is
a
much
sexier
title
you're,
also
working
on
shared
housing,
off-street
parking,
downtown
building
heights
study,
renter's
choice
plan.
A
C
Tonight
you
heard
the
ballpark
station
plan
and
the
five-year
update
for
growing
salt
lake,
so
we're
planning
like
crazy.
This
is
a
lot
to
be
working
on,
as
some
of
us
have
noticed,
there's
a
lot
to
be
fixed
in
a
number
of
the
drafts
that
are
soon
to
come
before
you
like
the
tweaks.
You
were
making
to
the
two
you
talked
about
tonight.
How
are
you
going
to
get
all
this
complete
by
october
1st
and
make
sure
the
plans
are
consistent?
C
C
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
elephant
in
the
room.
Again,
there
is
virtually
no
enforcement
in
this
city.
You
pretend
there
is,
but
those
found
guilty
just
pay
their
fines
and
go
about
their
business
and
not
a
single
penny
was
put
in
the
2023
budget
for
expansion
of
the
enforcement.
You
now
say
you're
doing.
C
S
Oh,
thank
goodness
I
got
the
glasses.
I
want
to
make
two
points
very
clear.
First,
I
do
not
believe
that
the
notification
requirement
has
been
met.
I
do
not
blame
the
city.
I
think
the
intent
was
to
actually
exceed
the
requirements
by
using
a
different
list.
The
mailing
did
not
reach
all
of
the
recognized
community
organizations,
as
required
by
the
ordinance.
I
did
not
receive
a
notification
on
behalf
of
central
city.
I
would
have
if
the
regular
list
had
been
used.
I
have
found
recognized
community
organizations
without
notice
in
districts,
one
six
and
seven.
S
In
addition
to
districts,
four,
some
community
organizations
did
receive
the
notification
on
june
6
and
didn't
recognize
the
significance.
I
was
at
your
work
session
in
may
and
I
began
immediately
to
set
up
an
appointment
with
the
staff
in
can.
There
is
no
way
that
I
would
not
have
recognized
the
notice
on
six
six
when
I
had
been
working
for
weeks
to
get
an
appointment,
which
happened
on
june
13th
in
a
hasty
survey
of
community
council
chairs
over
the
holiday
weekend.
S
S
This
commission
has
sent
the
proposals
for
affordable
housing
overlay
back
to
the
staff
for
additional
work.
I
view
the
proposed
amendment
to
growing
salt
lake
as
a
trojan
horse,
and
I
have
said
that
before
a
way
to
get
funding
for
unpopular
and
as
yet
unadopted
proposals
related
to
housing
and
then
argued
that
the
state
gave
the
city
money.
S
I
have
suggested
that
can
take
portions
of
these
extensive
strategies
once
which
are
not
opposed
by
citizens
and
submit
those
strategies.
That
is
not
what
is
happening.
So
there
are
errors
in
the
notification
and
calling
this
amendment
a
trojan
horse
is
pretty
inflammatory
for
me
to
say,
but
I'm
going
to
do
so,
because
my
alternative
is
to
go
to
the
state
and
argue
that
there's
a
lack
of
support
for
what
the
city
is
proposing.
A
T
T
E
E
E
I
I
This
is
an
implementation
plan
and
there
is
a
broad
menu
of
different
policies
that
the
council
and
the
planning
commission
can
select
to
move
forward.
So
our
intent
was
to
include
as
many
choices
for
you
as
possible
and
to
set
us
up
to
be
able
to
adopt
as
many
as
possible,
but
all
of
the
individual
policy
items
will
go
through
another
noticing
hearing
commenting
process.
So
this
is
just
an
implementation
plan
that
adopts
the
menu
of
items
that
could
move
forward
and
all
of
those
items
will
go
through
separate
public
processes.
A
P
B
P
P
P
A
I
T
A
You
would
look
into
if
how
that
might
fit
into
that
menu,
but
or
if
it
doesn't
or
if
it
does.
Okay.
This
is
a
legislative
item,
so
we'd
be
making
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council
and
we
may
want
to
add,
like
we
did
in
the
last
one,
an
additional
thought
to
look
into
the
enforcement
side
of
things.
If
you
wanted
to
make
a
motion,
andreas.
E
A
H
A
E
A
A
E
B
A
Q
O
Well,
thank
you.
I
will
be
very
brief,
since
the
control
consultant
team
is
leading
the
presentation
but
we're
before
you
today
for
a
briefing
on
the
north
point
small
area
plan,
the
plan
was
just
released
for
public
review
for
the
next
month
and
a
half
or
so,
and
then
hopefully
we'll
be
working
through
the
adoption
phase.
O
So
we'll
take
your
comments
tonight
incorporate
them
into
an
updated
draft
and
you'll
see
those
incorporated
when
we
come
back
to
you
for
another
public
hearing
as
well
as
feedback
from
the
public
over
the
next
month
or
so
okay.
So
I
will
turn
the
time
over.
This
is
our
consultant
team.
Logan
simpson
and
they've
been
working
on
the
project
for
the
last
year,
so
I'll
turn
the
time
over
to
olivia
all
right.
Q
Q
It's
been
a
while
and
it
sounds
like
you
guys
have
had
a
lot
on
your
plate
in
between
now
or
then
and
now
so
I'm
gonna
just
run
through
really
quick
kind
of
the
process.
We
went
through
to
get
to
this
public
draft,
what
we
heard
from
the
public
and
then
I'll
go
through
the
meat
of
the
plan,
which
is
really
the
vision,
map
and
implementation.
Q
Q
Q
I
thought
that
this
one
here
was
kind
of
interesting.
It's
it's
a
pretty
even
split
on
those
people
who
live
and
own
property
in
the
area
of
people
who
are
really
interested
in
commercial
or
in
just
future
development
at
all,
and
then
the
other
half
is
very
not
interested
so
kind
of
a
divided
group
on
input
there.
Q
Q
So
we
ended
up
at
this
map
that
kind
of
calls
out
three
categories:
one
for
protected,
open
space,
which
is
all
of
that
green
areas
that
should
really
be
protected
there.
They
connect
wetlands
and
uplands.
They
are
immediately
surrounding
wetlands
and
uplands
and
kind
of
provide
a
little
bit
of
a
buffer
there
to
really
try
to
preserve
that
habitat.
Q
The
second
category
is
residential
transitional,
that
is,
that
yellow
hatched
area.
These
areas
are
in
our
envision,
turning
industrial
eventually,
but
have
kind
of
a
higher
standard
of
development,
more
regulations
on
noise
barriers,
how
close
they
can
be
to
existing
structures,
how
much
building
frontage
they
can
have
facing
streets.
Q
Things
like
this
just
to
mitigate
the
impact
of
that
future
development
on
existing
residents
and
then
the
rest
of
this
area
where
it
is
gray,
is
a
business
park
industrial
so
rather
than
a
traditional
future
land
use
map
for
this
plan.
Since
the
area
was
seen
kind
of
turning
largely
industrial,
the
intent
is
to
have
some
standard,
basically
tiers
of
standards
in
place,
as
the
area
turns
industrial.
Q
So
I
pulled
just
a
few
of
the
key
design
standards.
There
is
a
whole
chapter
on
it,
so
I
won't.
I
will
not
at
10
o'clock
here.
Read
you
the
whole
chapter.
I
promise,
but
some
of
the
important
ones
that
really
reflect
what
we
heard
from
the
public
are
maintaining
a
buffer
from
sensitive
wetlands
and
uplands,
also
making
sure
we're
not
cutting
off
those
uplands
from
the
wetlands,
because
it's
important
to
the
ecosystem
as
a
whole
to
keep
those
connected,
putting
a
maximum
building
frontage
along
2200
west.
Q
Q
So
we
have
a
one
of
our
critical
path
items
so
most
important
action
items
for
this
area
is
evaluating
funding
solutions
to
redesign
and
construct
2200
west.
One
of
our
appendices.
I
believe
it's
appendix
d,
yes,
contains
a
full
financial
analysis
outlining
all
of
these
bulleted
funding
solutions
and
pulling
in
some
of
the
tax
information
to
talk
about
the
feasibility
of
those.
Q
Q
No,
it's
chapter
four
of
this
document
that
calls
out
different
tools
available
for
cities
to
preserve
open
space.
We
had
a
big
open
house
about
those
tools
as
well,
so
it
includes
a
lot
of
the
public
feedback
we
heard
and
levels
of
support
from
the
public
on
each
tool
and,
lastly,
is
adopting
development
code
updates.
Q
So
this
this
document
does
call
out
design
standards
for
each
of
those
levels
on
our
vision,
map
just
design
standards
geared
towards
protecting,
what's
most
important
in
each
of
those
tiers,
we're
suggesting
we
codify
those-
and
we
have
a
few
updates
to
the
m1
and
bp
districts
as
well.
That
will
make
that
will
allow
a
little
more
flexibility
in
those
zones
to
protect
the
environment
around
them
and
to
mitigate
the
impact
to
wildlife
and
to
residents
such
as
allowing
buildings
to
cluster
or
considering
a
reduction
in
the
minimum
lot
size
or
vegetation
requirements.
Q
So,
in
addition
to
those
three
which
are
the
top
three
on
this
table,
we
have
prohibiting
new
development
facing
3200,
west
and
restricting
through
traffic.
That
road
is
the
very
westernmost
border
of
our
project
area.
It's
currently
a
dirt
road
and
it
sort
of
functionally
serves
as
a
barrier
between
human
activity
and
kind
of
fenced
off
grazing
and
wetland,
and
this
is,
I
think,
any
proposed
development
along
that
road
is
already
doing.
Q
This
is
that
right,
requiring
new
development
in
the
area
to
obtain
an
environmental
impact
study
requiring
and
maintaining
that
buffer
of
at
least
100
feet
between
wetlands
and
any
site
development
supporting
the
development
of
a
new
north-south
collector
road
within
the
planned
area
to
mitigate
traffic
impacts
to
2200
west,
coordinating
with
salt
lake
county
to
provide
efficient
police
and
fire
services
in
the
area?
This
is
a
big
one.
We
heard
from
residents
since
the
project
area,
kind
of
crosses
over
city
and
county
boundaries.
Q
Incorporating
pedestrian
and
bike
paths
into
new
development
within
the
plan
area
and
along
2200
west,
we
heard
a
lot
about
residents
using
this,
often
as
a
bike
area
and
to
get
to
a
is
a
legacy
that
they
get
to.
I
think
is
right
up
there
they're
frequently
using
this
and
as
new
employment
opportunities
come
in
a
bike
and
pedestrian
connection
will
be
crucial
and
supporting
the
annexation
of
contiguous
parcels
within
the
plan
area.
Q
Okay,
so
all
of
that
in
mind
we
have
a
couple
discussion
topics.
These
are.
These
were
in
your
agenda
packet
for
tonight.
We
just
wanted
to
throw
these
questions
out
to
kind
of
spark
some
conversation
on
it.
I
know
this
is
a
lot
of
information
to
take
in
all
at
once
and
like
chrissy
mentioned,
we
have
a
public
draft
online
right
now
in
a
format
that
people
can
read
through
the
document.
Click
to
leave
comments
see
everybody
else's
comments.
Q
E
O
So
iterations
of
the
vision
map
showed
protected,
open
space
and
various
things
going
through
that
property
and
we
ended
up
changing
that
because
of
the
land
is
already
entitled.
But
that
said,
you
know
if
somehow
in
the
future,
they
abandoned
their
development
plan
we
were
debating
if
we
should
instead
show
that
on
the
future
vision
map
or
if
you
prefer
to
see
what's
on
the
books
now,
which
is
likely
to
turn,
which
is
it
is
likely
to
move
forward.
A
A
Have
have
you
looked
at
the
impact
of
say,
housing
versus
business
park,
industrial
to
the
sensitivity
of
this
land,
because
I
might
just
be
having
a
knee
jerk
reaction.
When
I
hear
industrial
and
wetlands
and
like
they
don't
not
go
together,
but
maybe
they
have
less
of
an
impact
than
housing
does,
and
I
just
don't
see
it.
O
M
O
So
a
lot
of
the
land
in
this
project
area
is
owned
by
the
salt
lake
city
airport,
which
has
flight
overlay
zones
which
would
prohibit
residential
development
and
also
make
it
highly
incompatible
because
of
the
noise
and
then,
as
far
as
resident,
manufacturing
and
residential
coexisting.
I'm
not
sure
did
you
guys
do
it
in
depth.
Q
A
Q
A
This
is
critical
habitat,
as
I
think
we're
giving
up
too
much
of
that
in
this
area
for
business
parks,
because
when
those
do
come
before
us
in
the
last
four
years,
they
always
seem
to
be
in
really
sensitive
land
areas.
And
so,
if
we're
looking
at
a
future
land
use
map
or
a
future
vision
map,
have
we
really
correctly
and
truly
identified
the
sensitive
lands
that
you
know
where
you
just
said?
Your
focus
and
the
vision
is
to
really
emphasize
industrial
and
business
parks.
A
O
A
great
point
I'm
trying
to
find
the
page
that
shows
the
existing
developments
in
the
pipeline,
but
it's
in
the
existing
conditions
and
one
thing
that
we're
working
with
is
givens
and
that
there
already
is
a
lot
of
entitled
development
that
it's
going
to
be
business
parks,
so
that
that's
part
of
why
or
business
park
or
industrial,
which
is
partly.
Why
you
see
so
much
of
that.
A
D
A
Step
forward
and
then
the
areas
that
are
still
falling
in
that
vision,
map
that
are
slated
for
business
park,
but
there's
nothing
in
the
pipeline
are
those
really
appropriate
there.
Is
that
really
more
sensitive
land
that
we
should
be
protecting
and
you
know
not,
because
100
foot
buffer
is
nothing
when
we're
talking
about
these
sensitive
lands
so
like
comparing?
That
would
be
good.
That's
helpful.
Thank
you.
Q
A
E
E
O
E
A
B
Yeah,
I'm
just
keep,
I
guess
I'm
just
thinking
about
it
like
the
reason
I'm
so
for
density
is
that
we
keep
spreading
out
further
and
further
and
using
land
that
we
probably
shouldn't
be
building
on,
and
I
think
trying
to
protect
some
of
these
sensitive
lands
are
really
important.
So
I
th
that
that's
kind
of
where
my
head
is.
Is
you
know
we
don't
use
our
land
very
efficiently
currently,
and
I
think
we
could
do
a
lot
better
in
some
of
the
other
industrial
areas
that
we
have
that
are
just
empty.
N
A
Okay,
all
right!
Well,
I
look
forward
to
what
comes
next,
and
so
thank
you
for
your
presentation
tonight
and
all
your
work
on
this.
This
is
an
important
area
of
the
city
that
a
lot
of
people
just
don't
think
about,
but
it's
a
big
deal.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right
with
that.
We
are
adjourned
and
we'll
see
you
all
in
two
weeks.