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Salt Lake City Planning Commission - November 30, 2016
A
B
It's
red
well
welcome
everyone
thanks!
So
much
for
coming
we'll
go
ahead
and
we'll
get
started
tonight
with
our
riveting
agenda.
That's
very
got
a
lot
of
controversy
to
it.
It
looks
like
so.
First
of
all,
let's
go
and
get
started
at
the
beginning
and
I'll.
The
commission
wants
to
take
a
look
at
the
minutes
and
let
me
know
if
there
are
any
comments,
amendments
or
took
a
motion
for
approval.
B
A
B
F
B
So
that
we'll
go
and
move
on
to
the
citywide
draft,
the
transit
master
plan
welcome
staff
back
up.
We
had
kind
of
a
review
of
this
at
our
last
meeting
and
we
were
going
to
take
a
deeper
look.
The
I
believe
the
public
comments
section
we
left
open
and
so
do
I
don't.
If
staff
has
anything
additional
they'd
like
to
add,
or
if
do
you
think
you
want
to
add
or.
B
H
I
Okay,
I'm
asking
my
name
is
george
chapman,
I'm
asking
you
not
to
approve
the
citywide
transit
master
plan.
There
are
a
whole
bunch
of
problems
with
it.
It's
way
too
early.
It
needs
a
lot
more
public
comment.
When
I
filed
my
public
comments
on
november
7th
the
deadline
date,
there
were
33
people
on
open
city
hall.
There
are
400
now
that
means
that
the
comments
that
have
been
received.
Hundreds
of
comments
that
have
been
received
are
not
included
in
the
cdy
transit
master
plan.
I
That's
an
insult
to
the
citizens
that
you
should
want
to
hear
from.
So
I'm
asking
you
not
to
approve
it.
In
addition,
one
of
the
most
important
projects
for
salt
lake
city
is
the
airport
tracks
reconfiguration.
That's
not
in
here.
It
should
be
so
that's
another
issue.
The
other
big
issue
is
salt.
Lake
city
council
actually
sent
a
downtown
master
plan,
discussion
and
decision
on
whether
or
not
to
have
a
rail
system
back
to
the
transit
plan.
I
There's
a
little
note
added
to
the
approval
of
the
downtown
plan
that
the
rail
project
is
contingent
on
what
the
master
transit
plan
says.
So
that
is
what
happened.
Is
the
massachusetts
transit
plan
didn't
look
at
that
note?
It
said
we're
going
to
just
put
in
what
the
downtown
plan
said.
So
salt
lake
city
council
is
saying
we'll
look
at
the
transit
master
plan,
transit
master
plan
and
saying
we'll
look
at
salt
lake
city
council.
There's
a
disconnect
there
and
it
needs
to
be
taken
care
of.
There
are
a
whole
bunch
of
other
issues.
I
Brts
excuse
me
on
900
east
state
street
a
whole
bunch
of
other
places
that
really
could
use
better
bus
service
period
and
instead
of
taking
money
away
from
better
bus
service
and
putting
it
into
brts,
you
should
be
having
better
neighborhood
bus
service.
The
financial
constraints
aren't
listed
in
the
transit
master
plan.
You
don't
have
priorities
and
what
happened
when
you
did
it
with
there's.
Also,
a
mountain
transportation
plan
neutral
on
there
and
that's
the
canyon
tunnel
system.
You
shouldn't
have
any
of
this
stuff
in
here.
I
B
E
Call
me
grace
step
on
his
foot,
I'm
judy
short
from
the
sugar
house,
community
council,
and
I
think
you
know
from
the
number
of
times
you
see
me:
we've
been
pretty
busy
and
all
of
a
sudden
we
realized
this
was
coming
at
us
and
we
hadn't
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it.
So
I
asked
larry
migliazzio
to
look
at
the
plan
since
he's
chair
of
our
transportation
committee,
he's
home
tonight,
sick
as
a
dog,
but
he
did
read
it
he's
a
transportation
planner
recently
retired,
so
he
he
understands
all
the
stuff.
E
E
I
think
the
basic
thing
we're
after
is
bus
service,
get
us
a
way
to
get
from
here
to
there
and
we
need
a
lot
of
it
and
we
need
it
soon.
It's
great
to
have
all
the
streetcars,
but
that's
down
the
road
that
takes
a
lot
of
money.
Buses
are
cheaper,
paving
the
streets
needs
to
happen.
There's
so
many
infrastructure
needs
that
we
have
that.
We
think
this
ought
to
be
staged
like
in
the
next
five
years.
E
So
larry
says
is
a
simplification
and
a
back
to
basics.
Approach
should
be
taken.
The
tier
1
tier
2
approach
with
all
the
niceties
mentioned,
is
too
complex
and
delays
a
usable
bus
system.
Let's
forget
tier
1
and
simply
go
to
tier
two
and
the
routes
add
the
routes
now
in
the
amenities.
Later,
let's
work
to
get
the
public
on
the
buses.
We
all
know.
The
main
issue
is
lack
of
routes
and
frequency
of
service.
E
Other
items
mentioned
are
good,
but
should
be
secondary,
implement
the
grid.
Now
security
and
crime
mitigations
are
not
mentioned.
Energy
efficient,
non-polluting,
transit
system
is
not
in
the
goals.
We
should
favor
the
grid
model
in
salt
lake
and
radial
model
outside
salt
lake
with
parking
at
the
outer
nodes.
E
E
E
There's
no
coordination
indicated
in
this
and
there's
no
transit
hubs
with
parking.
We
really
need
to
have
park
and
rides.
The
sugarhouse
streetcar
is
a
great
example
of
that.
A
lot
more
people
would
ride
it
if
they
could
get
their
car
somewhere
close,
so
they
could
walk
home
when
they
get
back
from
work,
so
it
should
be
more
specific,
say
what
we're
going
to
do
and
by
when
and
start
with,
the
buses.
B
K
Don
butterfield
and
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
talk
about
the
transit
master
plan,
which
I
believe
that
I
would
recommend
that
you
all
just
table
and
send
it
back
to
the
transportation
department
and
let
them
redo
this
their
their
modus
operand.
They
put
them
in
a
in
a
situation
where
they
have
in,
in
my
opinion,
neglected
the
the
simple
and
elegant
solutions
to
our
transportation
problems
that
will
impact
us
now,
instead
of
five
to
ten
years
down
the
road.
K
The
governor's
office
of
economic
development
tells
us
that
by
2030
our
population
will
double,
and
we
can
see
that
in
the
congestion
that's
coming
along
now
and
each
year
it
seems
to
get
worse
and
worse,
and
these
projects
and
streetcars
are
they're,
they're,
they're,
a
good
idea
and
a
mature
routes
that
are
already
heavily
used
and
can
work
that
way.
But
when
we're
starting
out
and
needing
to
establish
good,
solid,
best
scheduling
and
frequent
15-minute
frequencies
that
people
can
rely
on,
we
need
to
do
that
now.
K
The
simple
fact
about
it
also
is
that,
as
you
all
may
be
aware,
that
in
affordable
housing
and
other
housing
in
the
city,
you
know
where
there's
just
not
a
lot
of
vacant
land
around
to
build,
and
where
are
these
people
going
to
go
if
they
can't
live
in
a
city?
Well,
they're
going
to
commute
in
and
that's
going
to
provide
more
problems,
more
congestion
for
us
and
it
just
keeps
adding
more
and
more
each
year.
K
So
the
the
simple
and
elegant
solutions
are
are
buses,
and
these
rail
projects
are
just
too
expensive
holds
the
city
to
money
that
we
don't
need
to
be
spending
on
these
projects.
When
some
of
that
money,
we
can
also
spend
on
our
infrastructure
that
needs
to
be
done,
our
roads,
our
sidewalks,
there's
a
lot
of
work.
That
needs
to
be
done,
that
we've
put
off
when
things
were
tight
and
and
our
budgets
were
really
really
tight,
and
so
we,
you
know
we're
trying
to
catch
back
up
well.
K
The
biggest
thing
that
right
now
I
want
to
talk
against
the
south
davis
bart
and
an
enhanced
bus
would
work
just
as
well
and
it's
less
expensive
than
using
that
a
bart
coming
down
from
south
davis
county,
and
I
understand
that
that
would
be
a
good
asset.
But
we
still
don't
know
about
ridership.
We
think
it
would
be
good,
but
an
enhanced
bus
would
be
a
better
solution.
A
cheaper
solution
than
a
bar
would
be.
B
Great,
if
we
could
have
staff
come
back
up
real,
quick,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing
portion
on
this
topic
and
I've
got
a
couple
of
questions.
I
think,
for
you
guys
kind
of
respond
to
some
of
the
public.
You
guys.
Okay,
if
I
just
go
through
my
list
like
I
haven't
done
before
so
one
I
mean
there
was
a
comment
about.
Obviously
the
the
open
city
hall
closed
down
on
the
seventh
and
comments
coming
in
before
going
from
seven
to
four
hundred
people
being
active.
H
H
B
A
B
Secondly,
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
role
of
a
master
plan
and
budgeting
in
the
master
plan
you
know,
is
the
master
plan
intended
to
kind
of
as
a
general
guiding
document.
That's
helping
to
you
know
understand
priorities
for
which
city
council
people
in
future
years
can
place
budget
priorities
around
or
is
a
master
plan,
typically
something
that
will
have
specific
budgets
that
we
should
be
weighing
items
against
each
other
like
the
public
has
reflected
just
talk
about
the
purpose
of
a
master
plan.
Please.
A
J
So
yeah
the
transit
master
plan
or
any
master
plan
like
it,
is
intended
to
be
more
policy
direction.
We
do
include
some
high
high-level
cost
analysis,
so
we
can
prioritize
for
staff
guidance.
What
we
do
want
to
take
two
legislative
bodies
to
ask
for
resources,
whether
it's
city,
council
or
other
funding
opportunities.
J
So
there
is
some
level
of
priority
associated
with.
What's
the
most
important
thing
to
work
on,
that
might
some
some
of
those
things
might
be
very
expensive,
and
so
that's
part
of
the
consideration.
But
it's
not
the
only
consideration,
but
it's
really
more
about
a
policy
policy
guidance
and
setting
the
vision.
The
20-year
vision
for,
in
this
case,
transit
for
salt
lake
city
and
that's
the
other
element,
is
it's
a
locally
based
plan.
So
this
is
the
transit
vision
for
salt
lake
city.
J
Proper
uta
does
a
pretty
good
job
of
providing
regional
transit,
and
so
it
does.
Our
local
plan
does
respond
to
a
lot
of
work
that
uta
has
done
for
their
regional
system,
but
we
wanted
to
take
a
look
at
and
see
what
would?
What
would
we
need
to
invest
in
salt
lake
city
to
improve
transit
for
salt
lake
city
itself?.
B
H
B
J
J
Mode
neutral,
so
we
didn't
say
necessarily
that
that
it's
only
buses
that
we're
talking
about,
but
we
did
identify
the
only
corridors
where
we
would
want
to
so
streetcar.
As
an
example
is
a
very
high
intensity
capital
investment.
It
would
require
high
intense
capital
investment
to
make
that
happen.
So
we
didn't,
we
didn't
necessarily
plan
out
where
streetcar
lines
would
go.
B
In
the
plan
and
is
outlined
in
the
plan,
correct,
yes,
and
then
you
I
mean
another
general
comment
was
about.
You
know
really
prioritizing
frequency
of
bus
service
over
infrastructure
improvements,
and
I
mean
I
know,
there's
certainly
the
conversation
about
a
street
car
is
one
deal,
but
also
your
plan
outlines
things
like
improved
bus
stops
and
signage,
and
you
know
things
to
help
infrastructure
items
that
kind
of
help
bus
service.
You
feel,
like
those
infrastructure
items,
are
important
to
boost
ridership,
not
just
and
that's
why
we're
investing
them?
B
H
Most
of
those
investments
are
fairly
small
investment,
so,
for
example,
I
may
have
mentioned
this
last
time:
the
200
south
corridor.
We
put
shelters
and
benches
and
ada
accessibility
and
saw
about
an
18
increase
in
ridership
from
before
to
after
so
they're
pretty
small
scale
investments,
but
they
seem
to
have
a
pretty
big
payoff
and
it's
similar
with
signage
and
wayfinding.
If
people
can
find
transit
they're
more
likely
to
ride
it,
but
really
the
foundation.
The
core
of
the
plan
is
about
frequent
service,
so
every
15
minutes
all
day
every
day.
B
H
And
access
to
high
passes
so
for
the
hive
pass.
We
make
a
recommendation
of
fair
and
past
programs,
expanding
and
refining
those,
and
we
are
actually
looking
at
youth
at
seniors.
At
some
family
passes
some
options
for
specific
users
and
what
we
might
do
to
improve
the
program
for
those
people
and
make
it
more
accessible.
J
We
did
not
necessarily
call
out
older
adults
specifically
on
in
a
section
in
the
plan,
but
we
do
have
a
goal
that
addresses
meeting
the
needs
of
populations
that
are
more
likely
to
use
transit,
and
that
is
older,
older
adults,
people
with
disabilities,
people
who
don't
have
a
car
low
income,
and
so
it
has
been
grouped
into
that
element.
But
the
plan
is
really
about
making
sure
that
we're
building
a
transit
system
that
works
well
for
everybody
and
the
easiest
customers
for
us
to
lose
are
people
who
can
drive.
J
And
so
essentially
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
system
works
really
well
for
for
folks
that
that
do
have
other
choices
and
understanding
that
if
we
do
that
really
well,
it
also
has
connections
to
folks
who
don't
have
other
choices
as
well,
because
they're
trying
to
use
transit
right
now
and
they
don't
have
the
information
that
they
need,
but
they're
still
forced
onto
transit.
So
really
understanding
that
connection
is
really
an
important
part
of
the
plan.
J
B
J
B
H
H
I
think
it's
our
feeling
that
we
should
encourage
them
and
perhaps
even
make
recommendations
to
make
things
more
safe
and
secure
and
to
feel
more
comfortable
to
people,
but
that
it
should
be
system-wide
not
just
in
salt
lake
city
in
terms
of
what
we
do
locally
when
we
go
out
and
look
at,
for
instance,
consolidating
or
relocating
bus
stops,
we
look
for
places
that
are
well
lit,
that
already
have
lighting
etc,
so
that
people
are
more
comfortable
at
night.
Things
that
don't
have
visual
obstructions
that
make
people
feel
vulnerable.
J
And
so
along
those
lines,
we'll
do
we'll
make
sure
that
that's
explicit
and
the
things
that
the
city
does
have
control
over
that.
We
will
make
sure
that
it
is.
It
is
specifically
said
in
any
infrastructure
improvements
that
safety
and
security
is
taken
into
into
consideration
for
what
the
city
has
control
over.
In
that
realm.
B
And
then
my
final
question
here
was:
there's
a
you
know,
one
of
the
comments
about
kind
of
south
davis,
rapid
bus
transit,
which
I
know
the
uta
is
really
pushing
and
focusing
on.
I'm
not
sure
how
much
I'm
not
sure
if
I
really
remember
catching
on
the
plane
or
not.
But
could
you
talk
to
us
a
little
bit
about
that.
H
The
what
we
did
with
this
plan
is
we
really
looked
at
local
needs
and
so
in
terms
of
the
projects
that
are
being
that
have
been
planned
or
led
by
others
and
and
then
some
of
the
work
that
we've
done
quarter
work
that
we've
done.
We
just
looked
at
whether
this
analysis
supports
those
projects
from
a
local
transportation
perspective.
So
you
know
they've
primarily
been
looked
at
from
a
regional
perspective.
J
Right
so
that
relates
to
the
the
regional
component
of
what
art
or
uta
is
responsible,
for.
I
think
redwood
road
is
a
good
example.
Redwood
road
is
a
primary
corridor
for
several
cities
in
the
salt
lake
valley,
it's
a
corridor
and
it's
an
important
corridor
in
salt
lake
city,
but
it's
not
our
most
important
corridor,
and
so
it's
understanding
the
regional
dynamic
of
some
corridors
that
do
touch
salt
lake
city.
B
H
J
Yeah,
it's
certainly,
the
airport
is
certainly
an
important
node,
not
just
for
salt
lake
city
but
the
entire
valley.
So
while
we
we
did
not
call
out
the
investments
that
are
happening
there
specifically
in
the
plan,
it
doesn't
mean
that
we
can't
acknowledge
it
in
a
way,
but
it's
also
much
more
relevant
for
regional
systems.
So
we
do
have
confidence
that
when
we
think
about
what
we
need
to
do
to
serve
salt
lake
city
residents
better,
this
plan
really
is
focused
on
that.
L
H
We
had
you
know
a
couple
thousand
comments,
at
least
from
the
public,
so
it
was
guiding
the
process
throughout
and
I
think
what
I've
experienced,
at
least
from
with
a
lot
of
people,
is
that
they're
like
yeah.
We
I
generally
support
this.
Did
you
think
of
this?
You
know
that
kind
of
thing,
but
not
a
lot
of
surprises
came
out
of
this.
This
plan
we
have
an
email
address
that
people
can
access
at
any
point
in
time.
J
J
H
And
we
and
a
lot
of
people
have
pretty
full
agendas,
but
we
have
plenty
of
opportunity
to
continue
doing
that
and
going
out
to
the
community
councils.
Our
our
intent
is
to
I'm
creating
essentially
a
table
of
edits,
based
on
the
comments
that
we've
received
so
far,
and
so
what
we
want
to
do
is
incorporate
that,
in
any
guidance
from
this
group
prior
to
transmitting
to
city
council
and
then
they'll
have
an
additional
public
hearing
process.
L
A
D
L
That
would
echo
those
sentiments.
I
just
think
that
it's,
it
sounds
like
it's.
A
living
and
breathing
document
continuing
forward,
and-
and
these
comments
we
heard
tonight
are
important
and
I
would
encourage
you
know
to
keep
doing
what
you're
doing
and
engaging
the
community,
because
there
are
so
many
different
aspects
of
the
community
different
populations
that
are
that
are
affected
by
transportation.
L
That
you
know
got
to
make
sure
we
hear
from
all
of
those
different
groups
and
and
probably
outside
of
those
groups
that
go
to
community
councils
as
well.
You
know
lower
income
communities
and
and
whatnot
that
utilize,
the
transit
systems
in
our
in
our
city
are
are
so
important
that
they
have
good
access
to
it.
So
I
would
encourage
continued
engagement
outside
of
the
normal
structures.
I
would
say.
A
A
E
N
The
project
requires
a
zoning
map.
Amendment
subdivision
in
plan
development
to
see
fruition
specifically
concerning
the
zoning
map.
Amendment
there's
been
a
request
to
re-zone
the
property
from
the
r17,
which
is
a
single
family
residential
zone
to
the
r15
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
smaller
lot
size.
N
N
N
N
Here's
a
more
of
a
site
plan
for
you
to
show
the
lock
configuration.
We
have
two
lots
fronting
on
27
south.
This
property
here
will
be
accessed
off
this.
Well,
it
says
alley
here,
but
this
is
just
an
easement.
The
lot
that
does
not
have
street
frontage
lot.
Four
will
have
access
off
of
this
easement
as
well,
and
there's
an
existing
duplex
on
this
property
that
will
gain
access
off
of
that
easement.
So
it's
five
lots
one.
Two,
three
four
and
five.
N
N
This
project
went
before
the
sugar
house
community
council.
We
received
documentation
from
them
essentially
say
stating
that
they,
like
the
project,
judy
short,
is
still
here.
Yes,
who
may
come
up
and
speak
to
their
letter
that
they
provided.
I
have
not
received
any
sort
of
written
comment
from
the
public.
I
did
receive
a
couple
of
phone
calls,
but
they
were
just
information
only
and
at
this
time
concerning
this
project,
we
recommend
that
the
planning
commission
approve
the
subdivision
and
the
planned
development.
N
Those
fall
under
your
purview,
and
we
recommend
that
you
forward
a
positive
recommendation
onto
the
city
council
for
the
question
of
the
map
amendment.
That
is
a
decision
that
they
need
to
make
and
should
the
map
amendment
the
the
rezone
fail
at
the
city
council
level,
then
any
approvals
that
would
be
potentially
received
from
this
body
tonight
would
become
null
and
void.
N
B
N
And
and
we're
not
concerned
with
the
orientation
of
the
homes,
if
that's
what
you're
talking
about,
I
mean,
I
think
it
would
be
ideal
if
these
two
homes
certainly
face
2700
south.
This
one
would
most
likely
probably
face
that
easement.
I
don't
imagine
that
it
would
face
these
properties
to
the
south.
This
this
property
here
is
accessed
off
of
claiborne
circle.
So
I'd
imagine
that
it
would
face
that
that
that
direction
and.
C
F
Mr
chair,
can
I
add
a
comment
to
that.
So
the
residential
zoning
districts
do
have
front
facade
controls
that
require
doors
to
face
the
streets,
and
things
like
that.
So
for
those
two
properties
on
27
or
south
they'd
have
to
meet
those.
Unless
the
planning
commission
specifically
modifies
that
so
with
the
planned
development,
it
has
to
comply
with
all
applicable
zoning
regulations
that
aren't
otherwise
modified
by
your
approval
and
those
that
are
modified
by
your
approval.
They
have
to
comply
with
whatever
your
approval
says.
So,
thanks
nick.
G
N
They
have
to
meet.
They
have
to
meet
all
other
zoning
requirements
for
the
r1
5000
district.
Should
they
receive
the
rezone,
so
they
will
have
to
meet
front
yard,
require
front
yard,
setback,
requirements,
side,
yard
and
rear
yard
they're.
Not
asking
for
any
sort
of
relaxation
of
that
standard
from
you
tonight.
B
N
B
N
A
L
N
N
L
N
N
B
B
B
O
O
So,
with
our
original
application,
the
map
that
you
saw
was
what
our
original
application
was.
At
that
point
in
time
we
were
going
to
put
in
a
20-foot
flag
portion
of
the
lot
next
to
that
easement,
but
it
turned
out
that
that
easement
is
to
us
and
it
provides
access
to
the
interior
of
our
property.
So
we
omitted
the
additional
like
the
post
of
the
flag
lot
and
then
put
all
of
the
homes
having
access
onto
that
we're,
calling
it
an
alley,
but
it's
an
easement
and
so
the
way
it'll
sit
out.
O
So
we
we
didn't
want
to
push
that
in
and
then
try
to.
I
mean
well,
we
shouldn't
do
that.
You
know
it's
it's
how
the
house
works
as
far
as
the
orientations,
the
the
two
lots
that
are
on
2700
east
will
face
2,
700
or
2007
south.
They
will
face
that
so
they'll
have
a
full
residential
front.
You
know
front
gates
that
type
of
thing
lot.
O
One
itself
will
have
a
driveway
two
will
come
in
from
that
alley:
access
and
would
have
a
side
entrance
garage
and
then
three
would
come
in
off
the
alley.
It
would
have
that,
strangely
enough
in
1994
I
built
that
duplex
also,
and
it
has
a
car.
It
has
four
car
carport
and
off
street
parking
from
that
alley
as
well,
and
then.
O
O
Just
a
couple
other
thoughts
that
we
plan
this
neighborhood
and
judy
could
tell
you
also
everything
south
of
where
we're
at
is
kind
of
pedestrian
locked
out.
You
can't
get
to
27th
from
the
interior
blocks.
You
have
to
go
out
to
ninth
east
up
and
around
to
catch
the
bus,
stop
and
stuff,
and
so
we
understand
that
needed
in
the
community.
O
O
B
E
E
E
We
like
the
fact
that
he
is
providing
that
sidewalk
connection,
because,
as
george
will
tell
you,
there
are
a
lot
of
children
that
cut
through
to
nibbly
school.
My
granddaughter
was
one
of
them
and
people
walk
their
dogs
through
and
it'd
be
nice
to
have
that
inner
connection,
because
it
is
kind
of
a
funky
neighborhood
with
lots
of
long
streets
where
you
just
can't
get
out
until
you.
You
know
four
blocks
later
and
he's
removing
some
blighted
homes.
E
B
If
you
just
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
we'll
give
you
two
minutes
for
all
public
comments
to
keep
moving
efficiently
and
for
those
of
you
who
are
here
to
comment
because
we
have
a
couple
hands,
if
you
do
get
a
chance
to
just
grab
one
of
the
cards
that
are
by
the
door,
fill
it
out.
So
we
can
add
your
comic
with
a
public
record.
It
helps
the
meeting
run
smoothly.
If
not
I'll,
call
on
you
as
well,
but
you're
fine
go
ahead,
just
state
your
name
for
the
record
and.
K
K
I
think
your
property
values,
the
people
live
back
there,
that
the
properties
on
sierra
park
circle
are
a
little
bit
concerned
about
having
to
have
go
from
one
neighboring
house
there
to
suddenly
have
five
neighboring
houses
there.
In
other
words,
another
subdivision
be
being
put
in
there
and
I
do
not
under
understand
how
they
are
going
to
access
properties.
Three
and
five.
K
K
And
where,
where
are
they
going
to
park
the
cars
for
the
landlocked,
the
other
landlocked
piece
of
property?
That
would
be
another
question
I
would
have
I
mean
it
seems
to
me
I
I
don't
want
to
take.
I
don't
want
to
spend
my
whole
two
minutes
on
this,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
trying
to
stick
five
units
back
in
there
when
four
would
probably
be
substantial,
makes
more
sense
to
me
and
it
seems
to
me
I
could
make
more
sense
for
the
neighborhood.
K
B
B
A
A
Excuse
me,
and
so
the
house,
the
house
they're
talking
about
taking
down,
has
been
sitting
empty
for
a
while
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
like
drug
type
activity
and
homeless
people
staying
there.
So
my
question
is:
if
this
project
is
approved,
how
long
before
this
building
will
be
taken
down
and
kind
of
clean
up
the
riff
wrap
that
has
been
created
by
the
home
being
vacant
for
so
long?
A
A
A
Okay,
it
sounds
like
this.
The
house
on
ninth
east
really
isn't
subject
to
any
changes
whatsoever.
If
I
understand
this
correctly,
it's
just
part
of
what
they're
calling
a
subdivision
and
I'd
like
to
say.
I
like
the
idea
of
this
sidewalk
going
through
from
2700
south
into
the
what
used
to
be
a
dead
end
circle
prior
to
that.
The
people
that
lived
in
the
duplexes
east
of
my
property
would
simply
jump
over
my
wooden
fences
and
cut
through
my
yard,
whether
I
liked
it
or
not.
A
I
went
to
a
lot
of
effort
to
prevent
that
from
continuing,
because
not
all
of
it
was
welcomed.
Behavior,
again,
I've
I've
lived
in
this
neighborhood
and
I
own
homes
in
this
neighborhood
I've
been
a
resident
there
for
25
years.
I
don't
really
see
any
reason.
It
could
not
proceed
as
long
as
all
of
the
people
in
the
neighborhood.
A
P
P
P
P
P
It
would
be
just
as
close
to
walk.
Ninth
east
we'll
get
a
lot
more
traffic
and
I
said
the
access.
If
there's
only
one
house
will
be
somewhat
mitigated,
but
claiborne
avenue
pavement
is
about
done.
I
realize
our
current
mayor
has
doubled
the
budget,
but
that
hasn't
got
us
done
on
the
edge
of
the
city.
P
M
M
M
M
This
property's
in
salt,
lake
city,
okay
and
then
the
other
concern
I
have
is
is
parking
places
like
this
other
gentlemen.
For
some
reason,
the
council
approved
my
building
in
the
70s,
with
lack
of
parking.
I've
asked
on
some
conditional
use
to
get
some
more
parking
on
my
duplex.
It's
it's
bad.
I
wanted
to
go
to
some
property
east
of
me,
but
you,
the
council,
not
you
personally,
but
you've
been
nothing
but
difficult
to
work
with
now.
Regarding
this
new
development,
I
would.
J
Q
So
my
name
is
john
blankevort.
I
have
a
house
on
844
east
2700,
south
it's
about
two
doors
down
from
where
the
development
is
going
on
and
two
questions.
I
have
are
it's
true
that
crime
has
picked
up
in
the
area?
I
I
get
complaints
too.
I
I
wondered
what
the
mitigation
plan
is
going
to
be
to
kind
of
look
at
that
alleyway.
It
seems
to
be
a
a
place
to
hang
out
and
it
might,
it
might
get.
Q
I've
seen
some
houses
that
have
been
developed
and
it's
got
to
do
with
the
property
values
as
well.
That
was
asked
earlier.
Houses
are
very
close
to
each
other.
Now
that
they're
getting
put
up
more
density,
we
know
a
lot
of
people
are
moving
in
and
I'd
like
to
know.
If
that
gets
changed
for
this
particular
development,
will
it
then
be
grandfathered
in
for
other
houses
down
the
street,
and
would
we
suffer
from
that
or
take
advantage
of
that?
That's
all
my
questions.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
I
Okay,
I
just
want
to
point
out
I'm
for
the
project,
because
I
know
the
building
that
they're
talking
about
tearing
down.
It
is
a
hangout
for
homeless
and
drugs,
and
it
is
a
serious
issue
in
the
neighborhood.
I
walked
the
area
and
one
of
the
reasons
we
actually
asked
for
a
sidewalk
or
an
easement
to
allow
school
kids
to
go
through
that
circle
to
27th
east
to
access.
The
light
at
27
south
northeast
is
because
they
do
it.
I
Anyway,
they
do
jump
the
fences
they
go
through,
all
the
yards
in
the
neighborhood
and
that's
the
issue
and
they
jump
through
this
area
and
they're
being
exposed
right
now
to
drugs.
And
that's
what
why
we
like
this
project?
It's
only
doubling
the
density.
Essentially,
it's
like
two
and
a
half
homes
and
they're
putting
in
five.
So
it's
doubling
it's
not
that
bad.
There
were
some
concerns
about
traffic
about
parking,
but
the
community
around.
It
generally
would
like
to
get
rid
of
that
house.
I
I
B
B
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing
and
I'll
invite
the
applicant
back
up
along
with
the
staff,
and
you
know
for
the
applicant.
I
don't
know
if
there's
anything
you
specifically,
you
know
want
to
respond
to
that
was
said
by
any
of
the
public
comment
period.
If
you
need,
or
if
you
want
to
you
know
that
you
want
to
have
a
chance
to
kind
of
weigh
in
at.
O
O
In
in
the
public
eye,
it's
often
hard
to
understand
that
the
sidewalk
curb
gutter
and
those
things
are
like
public
right-of-way,
and
so
it's
hard
to
define.
You
know
where
you
think
your
property
is
most
people,
think
it's
the
you
know
at
the
curb
or
whatever,
but
it
it
actually
isn't
it,
and
so
we
have
frontage
on
to
claire
born,
as
well
as
the
other
neighbors.
That
is
the
only
home
that
will
have
access
to
that
directly
other
than
the
sidewalk
that
we're
proposing
all
of
the
homes
will
have
two-car
garages.
O
B
O
L
O
L
O
You
know
what
I
built
that
the
duplex
1994
it's
had
the
access
ever
since
then
it
it
accesses
four
covered
parking
stalls
and
two
additional
parking
sales
for
the
duplex.
So
all
that's
going
to
happen
is
and
but
but
it's
not
edge
to
edge
improved.
It
just
has
like
a
asphalt
driveway
now
so
with
the
new
properties,
then
we'll
improve
the
balance
of
it
and
it'll.
Just
it's
just
the
driveway
for
the
homes
it'll
be
seamless.
You
won't.
You
won't
know
that
you're
on
an
alley,
not
a
alley
like
a
city
alley
where
you
know.
L
F
L
O
We
we've
done
this
elsewhere
in
a
lot
of
communities
where,
for
instance,
on
30th,
south
and
300
east,
we
developed
30
homes
with
a
little
park
on
300
east,
but
there's
a
school
yard
right
behind
us.
So
we
took
the
opportunity
between
a
couple
of
the
homes
and
ran
a
sidewalk
and
they're
fenced.
So
both
sides
have
you
know,
brand
new
fence
and
then
there's
a
sidewalk.
O
It's
not
a
very
long
distance
and
so
the
property
owners,
it's
on
their
property
it'll,
be
recorded
on
the
plat
they'll
be
notified
when
they
purchase
the
property
that
it's
an
easement
to
the
public.
It's
not
you
know
for
them
to
put
a
gate
on
or
something
like
that
and
as
with
all
sidewalks
in
the
city.
If
you
have
a
public
sidewalk
on
your
property,
you're
obligated
to
maintain
that.
B
B
If
you
go
look
at
like
yale
crest
area,
I'm
looking
at
a
bigger
zoning
map
like
that
those
lots
are
also
r17000,
but
the
character
of
yalecrest
is
quite
different
from
the
character
of
27th,
south
and
northeast,
and
because
of
not
that
these
is
more
duplexes
which
is
more
dense
in
general
than
kind
of
princeton
avenue
and
those
streets.
That's
why
you
feel
it's
appropriate
to
change
well,.
N
A
C
C
N
F
L
L
B
L
L
Just
because
I
remember
that
I
don't
know
I'm
trying
to
remember
who
it
was
and
then
I
asked
about
the
parcel
I'm
looking
at
the
county's
parcel
map
right
here
and
it
it
doesn't
show
necessarily
direct
access
from
that
property
onto
sierra
park
circle,
and
you
indicated
that
there
was
that
that
has
been
taken
care
of,
and
then
the
gentleman
that
was
here
who
said
he
owned
that
I
I
understood
that
he
owned
that
house.
He
was
talking
about
eminent
domain
or
or
something
I
just
I
just.
O
M
Lex,
we
looked
at
this
plat
and
my
recollection
when
we
had
this
conversation
was
that
there
was
direct
access,
but
as
I'm
looking
at
the
county's
county,
recorder's
mapping,
this
may
be
a
real
concern
that
commissioner
clark
is
raising
it's
it.
My
recollection
is
that
what
I
saw
on
the
plat
looks
different
than
what
I'm
seeing
now
and
I'm
not
sure
why.
O
Well,
the
plot's
inconsistent:
first
of
all,
the
flat
maps
show
gaps
and
overlaps
and
several
things
we've
had
the
property
surveyed.
We've
pulled
the
maps,
we
understand
what
the
dedicated
roads
are
that
are
around
us
we've.
You
know
we
certified
that
and
filed
a
record
of
survey
with
the
the
city
and
the
county,
but
you
know
what
we
can
perfect:
that
further
we're
not
opposed
to
that.
O
Now,
unless
it's
an
obstructionist
viewpoint,
I
can't
imagine
that
they
won't
want
to
just
work
with
us.
The
other
thing
that
I
want
to
point
out
and
I
think
lex
made
a
good
point
of
it.
So
we're
talking
about
five
single-family
homes
and
sierra
park
circle
has
it
has
six
duplexes
on
it.
So
I
mean
what
happened
in
1994.
O
B
So,
if
we're
approving
the
the
planned
development
portion
of
it
in
the
subdivision
portion
of
it
and
the
owner
cannot
get
access
to
that
lot.
Three
because
of
the
way
the
county
is
done
and
the
neighbor
decides
to
really
dig
in
their
heels,
that's
sort
of
a
problem
for
the
property
owner
and
not
a
pro.
I
mean
that's,
not
something
that
our
problem
right.
That
would
be
his
problem
that
he
can't
now
access
this
property.
Correct
and.
B
F
If
there
is
a
question
about
that,
you
can
condition
the.
If
you
choose
to
approve
the
plan
development,
you
can
condition
that
approval
that
that
that
access
is
is
verified
and
confirmed,
and
without
it.
If
you
do
that,
then
there
is
no
approval
right,
because
then
they
can't
do
that
they
can.
They
couldn't
meet
that
condition.
B
B
D
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
really
good
points
that
were
race
that
were
kind
of
concerning,
but
I
think
the
the
owner
builder
is
aware
of
those,
and
he
knows
that
there
might
be
some
things
he
needs
to
work
at
to
make
sure
everything
turns
out
well
and
sometimes
he's
aware.
I'm
you
know
on
favor
for
this,
but.
C
I
just
want
to
say
I
really
appreciate
how
the
owner
or
the
builder
seems
to
be
really
trying
to
work
with
the
neighbors
and
he
seems
to
be
taking
comments
into
consideration.
I
really
like
someone
who
wants
to
be
a
good
neighbor,
so
not
everyone's
gonna
be
happy,
but
it's.
It
looks
like
he's
trying,
and
I
appreciate
that.
L
F
Mr
chair,
can
I
just
add
one
quick
little
tidbit
relating
to
to
the
motion,
because
it
is
a
planned
development.
At
least
portions
of
this
motion
will
be
in
the
motion.
Will
you
clarify
that
that
the
planned
development,
if
I'm
assuming
based
on
your
comment,
you're
right
making
a
motion
to
approve
and
that's
accepted,
that
the
plan
development
only
that
all
other
zoning
regulate,
applicable
zoning
regulations
apply,
and
only
those
that
are
specifically
modified
in
this
staff
report
or
are
are
modified
just
a
technical
thing
for
our
approval.
L
Okay,
I'll
give
this
a
whirl
based
on
the
analysis
and
findings
listed
in
the
staff
report.
Testimony
and
proposal
presented.
I
move
that
the
planning
commission
approved
the
subdivision
and
plan
development
requests
as
proposed
and
forward
a
positive
recommendation
on
the
city
council
regarding
on
to
the
city
council.
Regarding
the
zoning
map,
amendment
request
to
rezone
the
property
from
our
1
7
000
to
r1
5000..
L
If
the
city
council
does
not
approve
the
zoning
map,
amendment
request,
any
approval
by
the
planning
commission
of
the
planned
development
and
subdivision
request
become
null
and
void.
The
planning
commission
finds
that
the
proposed
project
complies
with
the
review
standards,
as
demonstrated
in
attachments
e,
f
and
g
on
the
staff
report
and
the
approval
of
the
plan.
L
Development
and
subdivision
request
is
subject
to
the
following
conditions
listed
on
the
staff
report
and,
in
addition,
the
confirmation
of
access
to
sierra
park
circle
and
that
we're
approving
this
as
a
planned
development
and
all
the
other
zoning
requirements
still
apply
that
are
not
modified
by
the
plan.
Development.
I
B
R
R
This
is
an
aerial
image
of
the
site
itself.
These
two
properties
here
and
the
so
this
direction
up
here
is
north.
This
direction
down
here
is
south.
These
two
southernmost
properties
were
still
on
the
site.
At
the
time
this
aerial
photograph
was
taken.
It's
about
2014.,
they
have
since
been
removed,
one
was
fairly
damaged
by
fire
and
the
other
had
fallen
into
some
disrepair
and
had
become
a
place
of
habitual
crime
and
other
bad
stuff.
It's
kind
of
a
running
theme
in
our
two
projects
today.
R
R
So
what
the
applicant
is
proposing
is
the
development
of
16
lots
in
two
separate
phases,
with
all
the
lots
being
served
by
a
private
drive
or
eight
each
of
the
lots
being
served
by
one
of
two
private
drives
development
in
two
phases,
with
the
southernmost
happening.
First,
the
southernmost
is
here
on
the
right
side
of
the
screen.
R
The
the
applicant
also
supplied
a
landscape
plan
to
give
a
little
bit
more
kind
of
clear
image
of
what
it
might
look
like
in
development.
All
the
houses
will
be
will
have
garages
which
will
be
served
off.
The
private
drive
so
we'll
actually
reduce
the
number
of
curb
cuts
along
ninth
east
from
four
for
the
four
different
homes
to
two
and
the
properties
that
are
directly
fronting
on
to
ninth
east
will
have
their
front
facades
will
face
on
to
ninth
east
and
then
they
they
have
side
access
garages.
R
So
it's
not
as
if
you'd
be
driving
down
ninth
east
and
looking
at
the
sides
of
four
houses
in
a
row.
Much
like
with
the
previous
applica
application.
The
applicant
supplied
some
images
of
what
the
houses
may
look
like
the
developer
that
the
applicant
is
getting
the
lots
entitled
for
use
by
a
home
builder.
R
The
project
was
seen
and
presented
to
sugar
house
community
council,
both
the
land
use
committee
and
the
community
council
as
a
whole.
They
were
generally
in
favor
and
I
think
judy
is
still
here
to
speak
a
little
bit
more
to
their
opinion
of
the
project
but
based
on
the
kind
of
staff
report
and
our
analysis.
Staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
plan,
development
and
preliminary
plat
and
a
favorable
recommendation
for
the
reason,
request
and
I'd
be
happy
to
take
whatever
questions
you
might
have.
B
So
the
lots
off
greg's
and
av-
I
guess
that'll-
be
on
the
back
of
the
lot
where
you
can't
really
see,
but
the
kind
of
the
boundaries
of
this
development,
the
what
I
guess
would
be
the
east
yeah
the
east
and
then
the
yeah,
I
guess
most
of
the
east.
Those
are
all
this
like
special
development
or
special
development
residential
pattern,
or
whatever
do
how
large
do
you
know
how
large
those
lots
are?
Roughly
did
you
look
at
that.
R
L
R
So,
in
a
in
residential
single
family
residential
districts
there's
a
requirement
that
the
front
door
faced
the
street
and
that's
not
something-
that's
been
requested
to
be
modified
through
this
plan
development.
So
it's
the
expectation
in
order
to
be.
You
know
built
that
they
would.
The
front
of
the
house
will
face
the
street
and
simply
the
garage
access
will
be
off
the
side.
B
R
R
L
Do
you
know
what
the
difference
will
be
because
so
you're
requesting
relief
on
the
the
front
yard
of
those
four
houses
facing
the
energies?
Is
that
part
of
it?
Is
that
what
I'm
understanding
that's
correct,
so
the
setback
for
that?
I
think
you
have
it
10
feet.
What
do
you
know
what
the
there's
two
other
homes?
It
looks
like
facing:
900
east,
that
that
that
are
right
next
to
this
development.
Do
you
know
what
that
setback
is?
I
mean
we'll?
It
will
be
substantially
different.
R
L
B
R
R
B
P
R
The
side-
and
I
can
let
the
applicant
speak
a
little
bit
more
specifically
to
this.
The
side
yards
they've
requested
some
reductions
in
order
to
facilitate
a
more,
I
guess,
balanced
architectural
composition
on
the
front,
facade
understanding
that
the
there's
a
restriction
on
the
width
of
the
the
ratio
of
the
width
of
the
garage
door
to
the
width
of
the
entire
house.
R
G
R
Yeah
again,
I
can
let
the
app
I
mean
when
the
applicant
comes
up.
They
can
probably
speak
in
more
detail
to
this.
They
will.
The
city
will
not
because
it's
this
private
drive
the
city
will
not
offer
trash
service
down
that
the
residents
will
be
required
to
take
their
bins
out
to
ninth
east
and
have
them
collected
there.
L
R
So
the
the
plat
and
kind
of
site
plan
was
routed
out
to
fire.
It
was
right
around
the
city
departments.
I
did
not
receive
comments
back
from
fire
expressing
that
concern,
but
when
it
comes
in
for
permitting
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
it
will
have
to
meet
whatever
requirements
it
has
to
meet
to
get
built,
but
I
didn't
receive
comments
to
that
effect
from
fire.
F
Right,
I
was
just
gonna
that
roadway
width
driveway,
with
whatever
we're
calling
it
has
to
meet
the
minimum
design
standards
to
get
a
fire
truck
back
there
and
be
able
to
turn
around
and
so
similar
to
the
last
project.
If
there's
a
requirement
that
can't
be
met,
they
can't
do
the
project
right,
and
so
those
are
usually
the
details
that
are
discovered
and
worked
out
through
the
building
permit
process.
F
O
Go
to
public
again,
my
name
is
adam
nash,
I'm
also
the
owner
of
this
property,
as
well
as
the
developer
and
the
applicant.
In
this
case.
If
I
could
just
address
a
few
of
those
concerns
so
different
than
the
last
one,
this
one
will
have
a
driveway
maintenance
agreement
and
it
will
be
recorded
with
the
properties.
O
The
other
property
doesn't
have
the
same
characteristics.
It
just
had
like
a
couple
homes
sharing
one
driveway.
This
has
you
know
that's
a
component
of
this
development
and
it
has
to
be
maintained
and
have
that
integrity,
and
so
we're
providing
that
and
that'll
be
done
with
the
recording
of
the
plat
there'll,
be
a
maintenance
agreement
that
discusses
you
know
long-term
and
short-term
maintenance
obligations
of
the
parties
to
keep
it
clear
to
keep
it.
You
know
garbage
off
of
it
not
to
park
abandoned
cars.
O
O
So
we
did
the
study
with
the
planning
planning
staff
and
we
came
up
with
the
fact
that
there's
numerous
lots,
particularly
on
the
interior
streets
in
the
neighborhood
and
on
the
east
side
of
900
east,
that
they're
on
lots
that
are
5,
800
to
8,
000
square
feet
and
again
their
duplexes
and
so
their
net
effect
is
that
you
have
homes
that
are
using
2500
to
4
000
square
feet.
So
our
density
is
consistent
with
what's
happened
in
the
in
the
community
again.
O
That
area
was
developed
in
that
r2
zone,
which
is
why
now
it's
in
that
sr1
zone,
because
none
of
the
homes
fit
the
r17
virtually
virtually.
None
of
them
have
a
7
000
foot
lot
and
almost
all
of
them
are
duplexes.
There's
like
two
or
three
single
family
homes.
That
abut
us
and
there's
a
lot.
So
we
thought
this
is
a
good
fit.
We
did
consider
coming
in
initially
and
asking
for
a
multi-family
zone,
because
it's
a
very
busy
street
we're
right
next
to
a
very
large.
O
Church
property
from
the
property
to
the
south
of
us
and
extending
into
the
blocks
has
been
turned
into
oceans
of
asphalt
and
parking
lots.
So
our
you
know
our
homes
aren't
a
detraction
as
much
as
like
interior
things
like
that
and
on
the
other
side
of
the
church,
it's
all
condominiums
and
everything
on
you
know
lots
of
stuff
on
the
west
side
of
the
road
are
as
well.
So
again,
we
think
we're
taking
a
leap
of
faith
to
come
in
here
and
do
or
do
single
family
residential.
O
We
believe
that
there
is
a
need
for
single-family
home
again
in
following
with
the
sugar
house
community
council,
their
recommendations.
So
what
happens
is
historically
you
have
all
these
like
bowling
alley,
shaped
lots
and
then
you'll
have
a
flag
lot
and
then
you'll
have
like
a
lot.
That's
43
feet
wide
and
252
feet
long.
Well,
the
sugar
house
master
plan
calls
for
those
to
be
assembled
and
to
be
re-platted,
and
so
that
was
kind
of
our
guidance
in
working
with
judy
from
the
very
beginning
on
this.
O
I
don't
want
to
get
long-winded
on
this,
but
you
know
we're
coming
in
the
lot
sizes
are.
We
do
have
a
minimum
of
five
thousand
we've
reworked
the
flat
and
we
meet
all
the
requirements
of
the
r15,
so
we're
actually
not
asking
for
any
consideration
on
the
lot
sizes,
because
we
run
50
or
5000
to
about
5400
square
feet
per
lot.
The
larger
lots
are
the
corner
lots
because
they
need
more
room
and
then
just
to
follow
up
why
we
need
the
relief
on
the
the
setbacks.
O
So
historically,
these
homes
were
built
very
narrow
and
didn't
have
garages
or
had
a
one
car
garage
in
the
back.
That's
why
the
side
yards
were
six
and
ten,
because
the
ten
foot
side
would
go
against
the
neighbors
ten
foot
side
and
then
they
could
both
drive
to
their
their
cars
off
of
the
road,
but
they
didn't
even
have
garages
the
homes
we're
proposing
are
homes
that
will
all
have
two
car
attached
garages
with
two-car
driveways
in
front
of
them.
O
That's
why
we
need
the
extra
room,
because
otherwise
we're
building
houses
that
are
insufficient
for
what
the
market
wants
right
now,
we'll
be
building
houses
with
one
car
garages
and
we're
not
interested
to
do
that.
We
don't,
I
don't
think
our
homeowners
want
that
and
that's
not
it.
They
can
go,
live
in
a
transit,
oriented
development
and
walk
and
take
the
tracks
and
stuff.
That's
not
what
these
people
want.
So
we're
excited
about
this.
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
and
judy
didn't
tell
you.
O
This
is
the
only
time
in
my
I
started
in
1983,
so
in
33
years
is
the
only
time
I
ever
left
a
community
council
hearing.
When
I
was
applauded,
I
have
been
a
lot
of
other
things,
but
never
applauded
and
I
got
like
the
standing
o,
so
the
community
was
really
happy
about.
This
gets
rid
of
blight
brings
in
stability,
single-family
residential
owner
occupied.
E
E
You
know
45
feet
wide
225
feet
deep
and
we
approved,
and
then
you
approved
a
flag
mod.
Well,
that's
still
an
awfully
large
lot.
If
you
break
it
in
half
with
125
feet,
each
lot
deep.
So
this
is
actually
a
better
solution
and
after
he
was
through
getting
our
approval
for
that
we
sort
of
talked
among
ourselves,
and
I
think
he
must
have
heard
us.
We
said
somebody
should
be
doing
this
to
some
of
the
other
parcels
on
this
block,
because
this
has
the
same
problem.
E
E
Probably
people
had
gardens
well
as
people
get
older,
they
don't
want
to
garden
anymore
and
the
lots
fall
into
disrepair
and
people
don't
notice
what's
going
on,
and
so
when
we
flyered
the
neighborhood
the
street
that
runs
back
behind
those
guys
came
up
and
said.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
because
they've
been
dealing
with
the
junk
in
their
backyards.
E
E
E
I
Well,
I
want
to
thank
mr
nash
for
his
effort
to
encourage
the
public
to
engage
with
him
he's
been
at
the
city,
council
or
community
council.
Twice
he's
tried
very
hard
to
explain
his
project.
I
don't
like
it.
I
don't
think
the
community
likes
it
because
it
increases
density
from
four
homes
in
a
few
years
ago
to
16
homes.
Now
what
a
big
increase
I
mean,
I
can't
see
any
area
that
can
handle
that
big
of
an
increase
and
mr
perez,
you
asked
about
firefighting.
That's
the
big
issue.
I
I
That's
not
what
you
want
to
approve,
so
I'm
actually
asking
you
to
send
it
back
and
ask
for
the
developer
to
figure
out
a
way
to
put
in
less
dense
housing
by
the
way
it
is
not
affordable.
The
report
says
it
is
affordable.
It
is
not
affordable.
Housing
for
350
000
homes,
that's
not
affordable,
so
I
also
have
an
issue
with
the
trees
are
not
being
saved
and
there's
a
city
ordinance
to
save
mature
trees.
The
mature
vegetation
is
not
being
saved,
it's
being
cut
down.
I
The
other
thing
is
this:
back
yard
setback.
You
mentioned
the
side
setback
to
the
west,
that's
not
an
issue,
because
the
west
side
homes
actually
are
a
little
bit
higher.
So
there's
not
any
problem
with
that,
but
on
the
side
or
excuse
me,
the
back
yard
setback
going
to
15
feet.
It's
a
problem
because
those
of
us
who
have
homes
now
have
to
comply
with
that
20-foot
yard
setback
and
now
a
new
home
can
get
by
with
15
feet.
That's
not
right!
I
So
I'm
asking
you
to
send
this
project
back
to
the
developer,
to
hopefully
develop
a
compromise
to
have
less
density
and
allow
for
firefighting,
there's
also
a
water
line
in
there.
I'm
not
sure
who's
going
to
pay
for
it
and
a
six-inch
water
line
is
not
good
for
firefighting.
I
think
eight
inch,
maybe
ten
inch
might
be
required
for
sixteen
homes,
so
who's
gonna
pay.
For
that.
Thank
you
for
listening.
Thank.
S
My
name
is
clark,
mcintosh,
I've
lived
in
that
area
for
30
plus
years,
and
I'm
all
for
this,
because
that
has
always
been
an
eyesore
those
homes
along
through
there.
One
question
I
had
is
the
two
homes
that
were
on
the
picture.
Those
two
are
going
down.
Also:
okay,
I'm
for
this,
because
it'll
help
our
neighborhood
it'll,
improve
it
and
it'll
clean
that
mess
up.
And
hopefully,
if
you
approve
it,
then
this
gentleman
can
go
across
the
street
and
clean
up
that
other
mess.
S
It
won't
be
an
hoa
thing.
It
sounds
like
I
work
for
an
hoa
people,
don't
like
that,
but
I
do
so
they'll
be
held
responsible
for
cleaning
out
the
sidewalks
in
the
driveway.
That's
what
I'm
gathering
correct?
Okay,
really!
The
only
issue
is,
she
has
a
pointed
issue.
That's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
garbage
cans
on
garbage
day.
I
guess
that's
just
the
way
it
is.
I
don't
know
how
many
people
park
out
on
this
street
anyway,
because
it
is
fairly
narrow.
S
B
O
Quickly,
if
I
could
please
so
I
understand
at
my
age-
and
you
know
where
we
grew
up
from-
and
you
know,
living
in
the
60s
and
70s-
that
a
350
000
house
sounds
like
it's
not
affordable,
because
our
parents
bought
houses
for
25
000.
I
bought
my
first
house
for
65
000,
but
affordable
housing,
as
defined
by
hud,
is
based
upon
a
mathematical
equation
that
these
homes
certainly
do
fit.
O
And
so,
when
we
say
it's
affordable
housing,
it
may
not
be
the
definition
of
salt
lake
city,
but
it
is
hud's
definition
that
these
are
our
hud
qualified,
affordable
housing
homes.
Maximum
loan
amount
for
hud
for
fha
right
now,
417
500,
and
they
don't
lend
more
than
that
because
that
takes
it
out
of
the
affordability
index.
O
O
So
the
standard
of
fire
is
150
feet
before
they
have
to
do
a
turnaround.
We
are
less
than
that.
You
know
the
fire
truck's
like
65
feet
long,
so
a
fire
truck
pulls
into
this
driveway
they're.
Just
going
to
back
up,
I
mean
that's
their
only
option
and
we're
providing
hydrants
the
site,
the
setbacks
of
the
sides.
I
mean
that's
probably
disputable
about
why
they're
there,
but
the
city
allows
for
four
foot
side
yards,
we're
just
for
four
and
ten
we're
just
asking
for
five
and
five
so
that
we
can
balance
the
houses
out.
O
It's
also
to
give
us
the
opportunity
to
do
two
car
garages
there's
a
specific
ordinance
in
the
text.
That
requires
a
certain
percentage
of
the
garage
door
width
that
has
to
be
held
and
to
even
go
down
to
a
minimum
double
wide
garage
of
16
feet.
We
have
to
have
a
buildable
pad
of
40
feet,
otherwise
we
don't
meet
the
mathematical
standards
set
forth
in
the
ordinance
so
that
that's
the
reason
for
that
and
then
we're
we're
going
to
build
homes
bigger
than
1600
square
feet.
G
Oh
yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
just
maybe
hear
staff
about
clarification
of
affordable
housing
because
again
the
way
the
application
is
written,
it
mentions
affordable
housing,
but
it
seems
that
the
definition
is
not
correct
and
with
hud
this
is
market
rate
housing.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
this
is
the
case.
R
R
I
R
O
The
median
income
for
in
salt
lake
county
area
for
in
this
portion
of
salt
lake
county
for
2015
and
72
700
mortgage
payment
for
a
home
price
at
3.75,
a
30-year
loan
20
down
payment.
Three
and
a
half
percent
interest
is
1,
347,
plus
taxes
and
insurance
equaling
about
a
little
more
than
seventeen
hundred
dollars
or
just
over
twenty
thousand
annually.
This
is
two
hundred
fifteen
dollars
per
month,
lower
than
the
thirty
two
percent
stated
by
hud.
A
B
J
M
R
G
A
B
B
O
Sorry
but
she's
in
the
master's
program
at
the
university
of
utah,
so
someday
she'll
graduate,
I
hope,
because
I'm
going
broke,
but
so
the
homes
and
what
the
community
council
and
we
have
discussed
for
years
was
we
started
because
there
was
a
home
that
had
been
a
meth
house
certified
by
the
health
department
as
uninhabitable,
we
acquired
that
property
with
full
intent
to
clean
it
up
came
through
the
process.
Did
a
flag
lot
subdivision?
O
O
C
O
Project
most
of
the
trees
that
are
along
900
each
will
be
saved.
The
trees
that
were
removed
were
dead
or
had
been
neglected
for
two
three
five
years
hadn't
been
watered.
They
were
standing
dead,
but
the
trees
that
are
healthy.
Of
course
we
want
to
save
them,
I'm
a
I'm
a
tree
advocate,
of
course,
and
then
we
we
will
plant
more
trees
and
do
a
wonderful
landscape.
Job
yeah,
we'll
keep
the
big
trees
appreciate.
C
G
I
guess
I
have
one
more
question
about
the
because
we
have
obviously
drawings
of
how
potentially
their
homes
will
look
like
and
when,
when
we
we
were
talking
about-
or
this
is
something
that
we
hear
a
lot
like,
we
have
like
a
cookie
cutter
home.
So
I'm
just
wondering:
are
you
planning
to
have
like
the
homes
to
look
different
from
each
other?
Are
they.
O
We
are,
I
have
a
representative
from
our
building
partner
here:
zach
brodsky,
he's
with
hamlet
homes,
hamlet
homes
is
going
to
be
the
home
builder
for
us
and
he
could
entert.
You
know
he
can
discuss
that,
but
working
with
the
president
of
the
company,
his
father,
michael
once,
we
get
this
to
a
point
that
he
can
invest
the
capital
without
thinking
it
would
be
for
waste.
They
fully
plan
upon
coming
up
with
more
of
a
sugar
house
design
rather
than
a
south
jordan
design.
A
Zachary
brodsky
with
hamplint
homes,
just
like
adam,
was
saying
at
this
point:
we've
yet
to
invest
capital
in
developing
product.
As
we
don't
know.
If
it's
going
to,
you
know,
go
through
or
not
as
soon
as
we
know
that
we're
going
to
start
to
invest,
we've
got
an
idea
as
to
what
we're
going
to
build.
It's
not
going
to
be
a
cookie
cutter.
A
A
B
R
R
If,
in
fact,
I
mean
essentially
saying
that
there
they
would
not
be
offering
service
directly
down
the
private
drive
and
that
if
there
was
going
to
be
city
service,
they
would
have
to
take
the
cans
out
to
the
street
and
if,
in
fact,
sustainability
determined
that
they
would
not
offer
service
that
the
the
applicant
would
need
to
procure
private
trash
collection.
And
that
is
that's
one
of
the
conditions
that
came
back
from
a
from
the
city
departments.
R
B
F
B
F
B
F
F
P
B
B
F
Yeah,
so
so,
if
absent,
that
say,
this
is
a
regular
development.
What
would
normally
happen
is
that
somebody
comes
in
with
a
site
plan.
They
need
to
show
where
their
existing
trees
are,
if
one
of
those
trees
is
by
ordinance
deemed
a
specimen
tree.
So
those
are
certain
species,
certain
sizes
of
trees,
then
they
have
an
option.
They
can
either
choose
it
and
believe
it
or
not.
F
The
zoning
administrator
has
the
authority
to
modify
setbacks
and
everything
else
up
to
20
percent
to
accommodate
those
trees
just
by
write
without
any
kind
of
process,
or
they
can
basically
plant
an
equivalent
remove
the
tree
and
plant
an
equivalent
sea
of
trees.
That
is
a
two
to
one
based
on
the
diameter
of
the
tree.
So,
for
example,
if
there's
a
24
inch
diameter
tree,
they
have
to
plant
the
equivalent
of
48
inches
of
diameter
trees,
which
is
essentially
a
minimum
of
two
inch
caliper
trees
that
the
new.
F
B
B
C
C
B
B
F
L
B
L
My
heavens,
okay,
well,
there
we
are
on
lincoln
street.
Those
houses
are
oh
yeah,
east.
Now,
I'm
thinking
today,
you're
right
did
anyone
cause
that
I
guess
just
where
the
houses
seem
to
sit
where
they're
gonna
have
to
sit.
Those
the
houses
are
gonna,
be
the
closest
to
those
backyards
and
did
any
of
those
residents
get
say
anything.
I
didn't
see
any
comments,
particularly
from
those
residents
as
to
the
property
being
or
the
houses
being,
that
close
and
overlooking
their
backyards.
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They
would
have
received
both
notice
from
the
sugar
house
community
council
about
the
application
being
made
or
them
receiving
the
notice
of
application
from
the
city,
and
then
they
would
have
also
received
the
postcard
mailer
advertising
this
meeting
and
giving
directions
to
staff
report
and
the
submissions
of
the
applicant.
Okay
thanks.
C
L
And
there
was,
and
I'm
looking
now
there
is
a
comment
card
that
came
in
through
the
sugar
house,
community
council
from
caitlyn
ridgeway
that
talked
about
the
issue
of
second-story
homes,
overlooking
their
single-story
home
and
that's
kind
of
what
I
guess.
What
I
was
getting
to
is
that
you
know
when
you're
five
feet
to
the
property
line
and
you've
got
two
stories,
then
they're.
They
are
looking
right
down.
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B
B
D
F
All
those
standards
now,
it's
probably
just
building
permit
once
they
come
in
you
know,
and
the
planning
commission
does
have
some
options.
I
think
one
thing
about
this
image
that
page
24
that
you
brought
up
is
that
the
white
squares
that
are
numbered
don't
fully
incorporate
the
entire
buildable
area
of
these
lots,
at
least
based
on
what
the
setbacks
are.
There's
still
lot
coverage
restrictions
and
things
like
that
that
kick
in,
but
that's
something
to
to
consider
so.
C
F
F
F
Can
go
up
to
28
feet
unless
the
planning
commission
restricts
it.
So
you
know
if,
if
there's
concerns
with
a
narrow
setback
of
five
feet
in
a
place
that
normally
it
would
be
more
than
that,
then
you
know
that
may
be
something
that
the
planning
commission
may
want
to
consider
under
the
premise
of
it
being
compatible
with
the
surrounding
development.
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It
seemed
to
me
when
we
were
out
driving
that
most
of
the
houses
were
at
most
a
story
and
a
half
being
that
there's
livable
space
on
the
second
floor.
But
it's
within
the
pitch
of
the
roof.
It's
not
like
there
aren't
two
full
stories
and
then
a
pitch,
and
so
I
assume
a
28
foot
would
allow
for
two
full
stories
and
a
pitch
so
but.
E
L
A
L
B
C
L
L
I
think
the
people
who
responded,
I
think
you
know
sometimes
people
don't
have
the
time
and
ability
to
respond.
So
I
think
that's
part
of
our
responsibility
is
to
kind
of
look
out
for
that,
even
if
they
may
not
have
spoken,
even
though
I
generally
like
generally,
I
would
say,
I'm
very
much
in
favor
of
adding
density
where
we
can
in
a
reasonable
way,
and
this
seems
very
reasonable,
and
I
I
like
the
project
for
the
most
part.
D
I,
like
the
plan
myself,
I
think
it's
a
great
proposition.
There
are
some
concerns,
but
you
know
it
was
well
announced,
as
was
testified
before
us,
that
you
know
they
did
put
the
announcements
out
and
I
would
hope
that
people
would
at
least
send
that
comment
via
email
or
perhaps
you
know
something
that
we
would
know
their
their
thoughts.
But,
as
we've
heard,
a
lot
of
the
comments
were
in
the
positive
from
the
meeting
that
they
held
previously.
L
O
If
I
could
remove
the
ice
bucket,
so
the
information
that
you're
working
from
is
incorrect.
The
side
yards
currently
are
four
and
ten.
It's
not
six
and
ten.
So
we're
not
asking
to
go
below
on
both
sides,
we're
asking
for
five
and
five
that
gives
us,
because
in
the
r15
zone,
minimum
frontage
of
a
lot
is
50
feet,
and
so,
if
we
take
the
five
and
five
we
have
a
40
foot
home
that
gives
us
an
18-foot
garage
door.
It's
just
how
the
math
works.
O
You
get
my
drift,
I
mean
it's
them
looking
into
our
homes.
So
that's
not
that's,
not
a
true
issue,
you're
looking
at
it
in
a
two-dimensional
viewpoint.
Secondly,
I've
agreed
to
these
height
restrictions
on
me
before
only
to
have
the
neighbors
use
the
ordinance
that
they
currently
live
under
and
they
build
35
foot
high
garages
and
barns.
So
everyone
works
under
the
same
premise
here.
If
you
put
a
height
restriction
or
a
side
yard
restriction
on
us,
it
doesn't
automatically
go
on
to
them
and
so
we're
as
much
in
jeopardy.
B
O
B
B
A
B
We,
you
know,
because
of
the
weird
line,
alignment
of
the
of
the
lots
along
that
east
side.
What
if
we
required
a
10
foot
setback
there,
how
you
know
and
would,
but
we
obviously
don't
want
to
you
know,
can
you
do
what
you
want
to
do?
You
have
a
better
sense
about
it,
or
is
that
you
know
with
changing
that
lot
to
a
10
year
to
a
10-foot
setback
or
those
just
those
four
lots,
or
does
that
throw
a
major
curveball
into
what
you're
trying
to
do?
Yes,.
O
We
cannot,
I
mean,
we've
gone
to
the
maximum,
that
we
could
and
explored
those
ideas,
but
we
can't,
if
we're
going
to
provide
homes
with
two-car
garages,
can't
build
a
two-car
garage
home.
Unless
you
did
some
weird
tandem
thing,
which
I
mean
it's
a
ridiculous
notion.
We
wouldn't
do
that,
but
for
us
to
have
a
two-car
garage
and
have
two
off-street
parking
stalls
per
unit,
we've
got
to
have
a
50-foot
wide
lot
with
10
feet
of
maximum
side
yards
or,
if
you
want
you
can
see,
this
is
a
planned
development
issue.
L
O
F
B
L
A
L
L
F
Yeah
it's
so
when
you're
considering
conditions
it's
always,
they
always
have
to
go
back
to
one
of
those
standards,
and
if,
if
you
can
tie
that
type
of
thing
to
a
standard,
you
know,
then
then
you
could
probably
do
it
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
mean.
Let
me
open
up
what
those
standards
are
real,
quick.
L
One
of
them
is
compatibility,
but-
and
I
had
asked
this
question
before
is-
is
that
just
talking
about
the
lot
size
compatibility
or
is
that
talking
about
the
structure?
Compatibility
because
it's
difficult
for
us
to
make
a
structure
compatibility
decision
when
we
don't
know
exactly
what's
going
to
be
built.
C
F
I
I
think
that
if
you
can
say
that
because
of
the
the
various
nature
of
homes
there
or
something
that
and
tie
it
to
size,
inten
the
intensity,
really,
that's
not
really.
It's
compatible,
obviously,
because
it's
single
family
and
it's
mostly
single
family
around
it
or
more
so
you're,
really
looking
at
that
size
and
scale.
B
I'd
say
just
because
you're
building
these
properties
that
are
back
away
from
the
street,
I
don't
think
like
when
you're
walking,
you're
driving,
you're
gonna
see
these
are
all
cookie
cutters.
It's
not
going
to
be
like
because
they're,
you
know,
they're
only
they're
only
visible
to
people
who
are
driving
down
the
street.
It's
though
it's
not
like
you're.
When
you're
going
down
9th
you're
going
to
see
the
same
house
16
different
times.
L
C
D
D
R
F
L
L
They
are
usually
behind
the
house
and
they
are
not.
They
are
not
the
primary
feature,
and
so
I
mean
at
the
minimum.
I
would
try
to
I.
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
way
to
do
it
with
our
in
our
purview,
but
I
I
would
say
those
houses
along
900
east
wait.
Is
it
900
east
I'm
having
a
hard
time
finding
my
map
here
on
900
east?
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F
L
A
L
F
M
L
L
A
L
L
C
F
F
L
A
L
Michelle
are
you
ready?
Okay,
based
on
the
analysis
and
findings
listed
in
the
staff
report
testimony
proposal
presented.
I
move
that
the
planning
commission
approved
subdivision
and
plan
development
requests
as
proposed
and
forwarded
forward
a
positive
recommendation
on
to
the
city
council
regarding
the
zoning
map,
amendment
request
to
rezone
the
property
from
r1
7000
to
r1
5000..
L
If
the
city
council
does
not
approve
the
zoning
map,
amendment
request,
any
approval
by
the
planning
commission
of
the
planned
development
and
subdivision
request
become
null
and
void.
The
planning
commission
finds
that
the
proposed
project
complies
with
the
review
standards,
as
demonstrated
in
attachments
e,
f
and
g
of
the
staff
report.
The
approval
of
the
planned
development
and
subdivision
requests
and
is
subject
to
the
following
conditions.