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From YouTube: Planning Commission Meeting - 07/26/2023
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Salt Lake City Planning Commission Meeting - 07/26/2023
https://www.slc.gov
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The
Planning
Commission
consists
of
residents
from
each
Salt
Lake
City
District
that
are
appointed
in
a
manner
providing
balanced,
Geographic,
professional
neighborhood
and
Community
interest
representation,
the
Planning
Commission
reviews
and
acts
on
any
changes
to
the
city's
General
plans.
Small
area
plans,
special
studies,
zoning
ordinances
and
Zoning
District
Maps.
The
commission
also
reviews
and
acts
on
planned
unit
developments,
conditional
uses
and
certain
subdivisions.
A
People
who
attempt
to
diminish
someone
else's
input
may
be
removed
from
the
room.
I'll
go
over
the
rest
of
this
when,
when
we
get
to
the
public
hearing
portion
so
right
now,
we'll
start
with
the
approval
of
the
minutes.
From
the
last
meeting
and
I
get
emotion,
I.
A
E
Yes,
a
few
items
to
recap
from
last
week's
city
council
meeting
just
wanted
to
give
you
an
update
at
the
formal
meeting.
There
were
three
to
four
private
rezone
petitions,
and
there
was
also
that
in
the
city
council
passed
those
and
they
also
adopted
a
text
Amendment
for
non-conforming
signs.
E
Some
of
the
briefings
that
they
held
earlier
in
the
day
included
a
briefing
on
the
new
form-based
un3
zoning
District,
which
would
be
for
the
fleet
block.
They
discussed
the
the
rezoning
of
the
fleet
block.
They
also
discussed
the
amendment
to
remove
drive-throughs
in
the
Sugarhouse
area,
an
amendment
to
regarding
site
distance
triangles
at
intersections.
A
Thank
you,
now's
our
open
forum
time.
Does
anybody
have
anything
they
want
to
bring
up
and
discuss,
enter.
F
Yeah
Madam
chair
thanks,
I
I
I've,
been
thinking
about
the
TSA
zones
and
I'm
wondering
if
ground
floor
activation
in
the
TSA
zones
and
I
I
think
about
this
in
the
context
of
ballpark,
because
you
know
we
I
think
we've
had
a
lot
of
proposals
along
the
400
South
Corridor,
where
we
haven't
been
super
happy
with
the
ground
floor
activation
and
I.
You
all
know
I
hate
to
impose
additional
costs
on
housing
developments,
but
I
I
feel
like
with
zero.
F
G
We're
actually
already
looking
into
amending
the
TSA
zones,
just
acknowledging
that
there
are
some
issues
with
the
point-based
system.
So
we
have
a
couple
staff
members
working
on
that
research
and
you
should
see
potentially
a
petition
initiated
within
the
next
two
months.
I'm.
H
Hoping
I
think
I
have
to
agree
with
with
commissioner
gento
I
think
that
you
know
Fitness
rooms
and
rental
offices,
and
you
know
mail
rooms
or
not
really
ground,
floor
activation
and
and
and
I
think
that
sometimes
we
have
to
think
of
coffee
shops
and
other
things
as
amenities
rather
than
as
rental
space,
and
so
I
think
we
need
to
start
that.
That
is
something
that
has
been
proposed
in
planning
circles
or
around
the
country.
H
So
it's
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
when
somebody
says
well
I'm,
you
know
they
can't
pay
the
rent
well,
yeah.
Neither
does
the
mail
room
pay
the
rent.
So
these
these
things
are
amenities
that
ought
to
be
seriously
considered.
F
Yeah
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
way
of
with
the
point
system,
if
they
can
show
a
retail
tenant
lease
that
and
I
don't
care
what
the
rent
is.
I,
don't
care
if
it's
half
the
going
market
rate
of
the
retail
rents
that
to
me
would
be
a
lot
of
points
that
they
have
a
strong
interest.
They
have
some
sentence
so
that
they
have
a
tenant
committed
to
that
space.
That
would
actually
be
retail
space.
That,
to
me,
would
be
something
we
give
a
lot
of
Point,
especially
if
it's
a
long-term
lease.
A
I
Well,
I
think
that
the
point
system
can
reflect
the
comments
of
Brenda
that
you
get
less
points
if
you're
just
having
a
gym
for
your
residence
or
you
know
a
bike,
storage
or
the
mail
room,
because
none
of
those
are
I've
said
this
song
before
so
maybe
they
get
a
higher
point
system
if
they're
actually
doing
a
retail
space
less
to
zero
points.
If
they're,
just
like
yeah
we're
gonna
put
the
gym
on
the
floor
ground
floor.
J
Good,
thank
you
chair.
So
this
is
the
ninth
East
mixed
use
and
multi-family
design
review
project.
So
the
request.
It
includes
design
review
for
modifications
to
the
standards
to
construct
a
new
mixed-use
development.
There
are
two
requests.
The
first
is
for
the
maximum
length
of
a
street
facing
facade
and
then
the
second
is
for
the
percentage
of
Glass
on
the
ground
floor
on
the
900
East
Street
facing
elevation,
and
you
can
see
in
the
aerial
photo
here.
J
The
project
is
located
on
the
west
side
of
900
East
and
then
on
the
south
side
of
400
South.
It's
immediately
south
of
the
track
station
there
it's
where
the
current
Office
Max
is
located
and
then
Salt
Lake
roasting
is
located
immediately
to
the
West
on
bennion
Elementary
is
to
the
South,
and
then
there
are
various
commercial
buildings
to
the
north
and
also
to
the
east
and
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
The
Proposal
with
conditions
to
give
you
an
overview
of
the
project.
The
property
is
located
in
the
TSA
UNC
zoning
District.
J
J
here
are
some
existing
conditions
of
the
site.
The
first
photo
on
the
upper
left
shows
the
Office
Max
in
the
existing
service
parking
lot.
The
photo
on
the
upper
right
to
look
is
looking
East
along
400
South,
and
you
can
see
the
parking
lot
as
well
as
400
South
on
the
track
station
and
then
on.
J
One
of
the
unique
aspects
of
this
proposal
is
that
there
is
the
unexisting
South
Jordan
and
Salt
Lake
Canal
that
runs
through
the
site
and
part.
J
J
On
the
second
floor
plan,
you
can
see
that
there
are
a
few
areas
where
the
building
is
recessed.
There's
two
that
on
there
are
on
the
area
that
visas,
400,
South
and
then
one
to
the
rear
and
the
other
elevations,
the
East
Elevation
on
the
top.
There
are
along
900
East
and
then
the
west
elevation,
where
this
would
work
would
be
where
it
would
have
about
Salt,
Lake
roasting
and
then
on
the
left
there.
You
can
see
the
gray
change
as
the
property
goes
from
east
to
west.
J
J
As
far
as
compliance
with
the
city's
adopted
plans,
looking
at
planned,
Salt
Lake,
there
were
two
principles:
the
staff
found.
It
was
compatible
with
and
those
are
on,
the
slide.
There
were
a
number
of
initiatives
within
the
Central
Community
master
plan
that
were
also
applicable
included.
Four
of
those
here
significantly
one
is
that
it
promotes
the
infill
and
Redevelopment
of
underutilized
land.
K
K
K
We
got
an
extension
a
year
after
we
had
it
approved
because
the
economy,
coveted
conditions,
prevented
us
from
being
able
to
develop
the
property
and
doggone
it.
We
forgot
to
extend
it
this
last
year
to
get
another
extension.
Client
is
still
very
close
to
getting
his
financing
nailed
down.
The
economy
is
still
a
little.
You
know.
Many
of
our
clients
are
just
wanting
to
break
ground
in
the
fall
or
the
spring
of
next
year
presidential
year,
so
we're
seeking
basically
the
same
approval
that
we
received
before
in
21..
K
The
one
thing
I
want
to
highlight
and
I
think
it
was
you
Amy
and
Brenda
that
had
a
lot
of
questions
and
comments,
and-
and
earlier
this
comment
also
about
trying
to
activate
that
space
and
unfortunate.
Most
of
our
space
activation
is
covered
on
the
screen
here.
But
we
want
the
same
thing
and
we
want
to
enhance
that
pedestrian
experience
when
I
want
to
create
a
draw
that
draws
people
into
the
retail
spaces
along
there.
I
I
can
understand
the
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance
with
projects
that
have
previously
happened
on
4th
South.
K
We
are
really
truly
getting
retail
lined
up
for
that
ground
level
space
and
we
see
that
I
think
we
had
what
11
foot
change
of
grade,
which
is
very
surprising
when
you
look
at
that
property
to
use
it
to
Advantage,
to
create
little
pockets
of
in
and
out
where
people
can
shop
and
sit
and
on
the
patio
and
eat
and
mingle
and
hang
out
such
a
great
location
next
to
the
track.
Stop
so
that
that
was
something
that
was
really
questioned.
K
Last
time
we
presented
I
want
to
emphasize
that
something
that's
still
very
important
to
us.
The
other
item
is
the
breaking
up
of
the
facade.
We
also
want
the
facade
broken
up
and
we
kept
that
ground
level
somewhat
continuous.
Where
we
broke
it
up
is
at
the
higher
elevation
in
in
creating
our
amenity
Decks
that
face
Forest
South.
So
we
have
two
amenity
break
decks.
There,
there's
a
great
shot
of
it
that
breaks
up
that
facade
along
four
South
to
try
and
break
up
that
mass
scene.
K
So
we
don't
have
a
Big
Blob
of
a
building
going
along
for
South
there
that
that's
important
to
us.
We've
got
different.
Just
for
your
information,
different
nodes
of
activity,
what
those
amenity
decks
the
one
facing
the
Elementary
South
will
have
a
pool
deck.
The
other
two
will
be
what
we
call
effacing
Four
South
a
little
bit
more
quiet
space
exercise,
area
and
Lounge
area.
K
There
was
a
comment
last
time
to
if
you
can
get
the
cursor
on
that
atom.
That's
that
that
middle
one
to
set
the
the
deck
further
back
in
which
we
did
and
we've
got
that
to
Sarah
any
other
questions
or
comments,
thoughts.
K
Parking
these
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
Adam,
but
the
zoning
ordinance
has
actually
changed
where
you've
actually
increased.
The
amount
of
parking
is
that
correct.
K
The
retail
access
is
going
is
going
to
come
off
of
primarily
for
South,
so
there
will
be
signage
there
so
that
rendering
it
it's
got
that
signage.
M
K
K
K
F
K
Yeah
go
ahead,
Adam
I
think
the
plan
view
will
help
but
also
I,
think
the
perspective
will
help
it's
all
Ada
access
to
go,
go
ahead.
Adam
yeah.
M
So,
to
help
accommodate
that
grading
and
stuff
because
we
do
have
quite
a
bit
of
gray
chains-
is
obviously
will
be
level
here
with
the
street
as
far
as
the
parking
access
yes
and
then
from
there,
you
can
Branch
off
to
these
patio
areas
that
are
flush
with
that
for
Ada
access
and
then
from
those
patios
there's
steps
down
to
accommodate
the
grade.
So
all
your
Ada
access
comes
from
this
level.
Elevation,
okay
and
then
the
stairs
just
occur
on
the
far
ends
to
accommodate
for
the
grade
change.
H
M
M
M
H
H
K
M
A
J
So
it's
for
the
items
that
are
discussed
in
the
staff
report
and
then
it
also
has
that
second
sentence.
That's
for
all
of
the
other
applicable
regulations
that
are
required
by
the
city
departments.
J
J
It's
kind
of
just
a
general
catch-all
condition
of
approval,
but
those
those
are
two
specific
things
that
would
be
included.
Okay,.
D
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
know
what
the
sure
what
it
is
I
I,
didn't
recognize
anything
else.
Besides
those
two
I
think
that
I
haven't
seen
that
kind
of
condition
before
that
was
kind
of
a
catch-all.
I
think
that's
the
first
time
I've
seen
it
so
I
thought
it
was
okay,
maybe
there's
a
list
somewhere
else,
but
there's
not.
A
Okay,
you
guys
can
just
hang
out
there
and
we
will
open
the
public
meeting
on
this
item.
So
here's
a
few
reminders
for
what
you
need
to
do
to
participate.
If
you
wish
to
speak,
come
to
the
microphone
once
the
public
hearing's
been
opened
state,
your
name,
members
of
the
public
will
have
two
minutes
to
comment.
Your
time
cannot
be
combined
with
someone
else's
time.
Everyone
will
get
the
same
amount
of
time
to
speak
so
that
we
can
ensure
everyone
is
treated
equally.
A
If
you
are
a
representative
of
an
officially
registered
recognized
organization,
and
the
item
you
wish
to
speak
on
is
within
the
boundaries
of
your
organization,
you
will
be
given
or
you
will
be
given
five
minutes.
If
it's
outside
of
your
boundaries,
you
will
be
given
two
minutes.
If
you
have
a
handout,
you
want
the
commission
to
see
you
need
to
leave
copies
because
they
become
part
of
the
record
when
commenting
Peak
speak
clearly,
keep
your
comments
on
topic
and
brief,
and
questions
asked
during
a
public
hearing
will
not
be
answered
during
the
public
hearing.
A
Rather,
the
commission
may
ask
the
applicant
or
staff
to
answer
the
questions
after
the
public
hearing
is
closed
or
asked
staff
to
follow
up
with
you
at
a
later
time.
So
given
given
the
rules
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
on
this
item,
I
have
one
card
from
Esther
Hunter
who's,
chair
of
the
East
Central
Community
Council,
come
up
to
the
microphone
state.
Your
name
for
the
record
and
you'll
have
five.
N
Better,
that's
about
that
too
loud.
Okay,
Esther,
Hunter,
I'm,
chair
of
East
Central
I,
appreciate
being
able
to
be
here
today.
We
wrote
an
extensive
letter
that
was
very
negative
towards
this
project
that
you
should
have
in
your
packet
and
I'm
glad
to
report
that
since
that
letter
we
have
had
several
meetings
with
the
architectural
firm
and
now
also
today,
with
the
owner
of
the
property
which
show
promising
for
being
able
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
that
we
have.
N
N
We
typically
don't
wait
until
we're
at
this
meeting,
but
we
usually
are
working
with
applicants
sometimes
years
in
advance,
to
actually
talk
about
things
that
are
concern
and
mutual
benefit
for
the
community
and
for
the
developer,
and
in
this
case,
for
some
reason,
kovid
and
other
things.
We
were
not
able
to
make
that
connection.
So
we
are
where
we
are,
and
we
understand
that
some
things
are
already
in
place,
so
we're
trying
to
do
the
best
we
can
now
in
terms
of
the
items
that
you've
been
asked
to.
N
We
know
what
the
zoning's
done
and
I'm
glad
that
planning
is
working
on
something
to
modify
some
of
those
design
standards,
but
we
are
quite
concerned
with
a
couple
of
things
on
this
project
and
most
of
it
stems
around
pedestrian
safety
and
the
experience
for
our
neighborhood.
When
we
want
this
to
be
a
walkable
area,
the
push
right
against
Force
South
does
not
make
it
a
comfortable
place
to
walk.
I
walk
it
now.
N
It
is
not
a
comfortable
place,
the
amount
of
landscape
and
things
that
can
be
done
to
add
benches
and
make
it
more
accessible,
both
also
for
the
folks
that
are
renting
that
they
have
some
green
space
to
walk
their
dogs.
Etc
is
all
important
and
right
now,
that's
not
part
of
what's
required
in
the
ordinance,
but
we
have
some
concerns
about
that.
N
We're
also
concerned
that,
while
the
building
is
being
cut
up
the
400
feet
to
on
the
second
floor
and
above
for
the
pedestrians
on
the
main
level,
there
is
no
it's
not
it's
still
one
big
block
and
Retail,
as
we
know,
especially
since
covid
people
are
not
shopping
the
same
way
they
were
before
we
have
the
RDA
building
just
building
away
from
goodly
cookies.
Just
next
to
this,
that's
still
trying
to
rent
space,
the
railroad
building,
half
a
block
away
two
years
that
they've
sat
empty.
N
There
is
concern
also
from
John
Bolton
in
the
Salt
Lake
gross,
and
he's
been
to
placed
four
times
now
for
Transit
buildings.
This
is
fourth
time
or
fifth,
maybe
even-
and
he
has
some
concerns
about
his
little
patio
space-
that
the
electrical
items
are
all
being
placed
next
to
the
alley
where
his
folks
will
be
sitting
concerned
about
the
reroute
of
the
canal
and
that
this
doesn't
undermine
his
building
in
some
way,
the
balconies
and
where
they
sit.
So
we've
begun.
N
Those
conversations,
Adam
and
John
and
I
met
to
start
talking
about
some
of
these
things
and
again
they're
not
part
of
what's
being
approved
today.
But
these
are
generally
things
we
try
to
work
out
in
advance,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
make
a
record
of
them
here.
I've
been
promised
that
we
will.
It
wasn't
a
firm
commitment,
but
a
promise
that
we
will
work
together
to
try
and
make
some
of
these
things
better.
We
worked
kitty
corner
on
IHC.
N
They
did
things
like
bring
the
sidewalk
in
on
their
property,
put
Bowl
alerts
up
so
that
the
people
were
more
comfortable,
walking
with
little
lights
in
them.
Did
some
grain
space
that
made
it
safer
for
people
on
the
fourth
South
Side?
They
did
double
rows
of
trees
to
protect
the
neighborhood
so
that
there
was
some
safety
against
what
was
happening.
N
The
other
issue
that
we
have
is
ninth
East
is
a
bus.
Stop
right
there,
the
transportation,
often
people
get
stuck
in
the
middle
of
the
intersection
as
they're
trying
to
go
into
the
office
max
parking
lot,
and
with
this
now
being
this
many
units
and
in
Access
there
there's
some
concern
about
9th
East
I
know
it
was
just
approved.
N
However,
we
have
some
realistic
experiences
where
we're
concerned
about
that
piece,
and
those
are
the
items
that
we
had
so
I'm,
hoping
that
we
will
continue
to
be
able
to
work
through
some
of
these
design
things
to
make
it
a
little
more
attractive
to
the
neighborhood
and
to
the
folks
that
are
walking
by.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
I
Just
have
some
General
comments
that,
for
the
Commissioners
too,
consider
so
I
do
appreciate
you
setting
back
that
further,
because
I
do
remember
us
talking
about
that.
I
think
you
know.
A
strict
interpretation
of
the
code
sometimes
doesn't
always
yield
the
best
projects.
I
We've
seen
some
over-the-counter
projects
that
are
really
really
missing.
The
mark
So
when
I
look
at
something
that
is
exceeding
the
200
feet
in
length,
which
is
a
concern
to
me.
I
really
want
to
see
how
you're
articulating
the
building,
because
I
know
through
good
design.
You
can
make
it
feel
good
like
it's
a
good
pedestrian
experience,
some
of
the
things
that
I'm
seeing
in
this
drawing
that
I
just
want
to
confirm
that
that
is
your
intent.
I
I
think
that
that
break
and
this
setback
along
for
South
does
a
really
good
job
of
breaking
up
this
as
a
pedestrian
to
feel
somewhat
more
like
two
buildings
setting.
That
back
further,
though,
helps
with
the
the
safety
of
The
Pedestrian,
especially
that
being
a
parking
entrance,
an
exit
so
there's
a
little
bit
more
room
for
the
cars
to
to
make
themselves
known.
I
So
while
that's
has
two
folds
one
is
safety,
and
then
one
is
also
just
that
visual
breakup,
but
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
I
want
to
acknowledge
in
this
rendering
that
I
hope
you're
doing
so.
One
I
really
like
that.
There's
some
difference
of
articulation
in
storefronts
somewhere
back
further.
Some
are
more
forward
that
gives
a
really
good
breakout
versus
one
solid
bit.
I
Tenants
but
different
buildings.
So
if
you
have
something
set
forward
and
something
said
back
and
one
has
an
awning
and
maybe
one
has
you
know
a
walkway,
that's
covered,
it
feels
like
you're
in
a
different
space
and
as
a
pedestrian.
That's
part
of
how
that
works.
So
I,
like
those
features
and
I,
want
you
to
confirm
that
that
is
your
intent
and
that's
what
how
you're
going
to
be
doing
that.
K
That
is
our
intent.
You
referred
to
this
other
project
by
the
Tribune
building
Salt
Lake
Tribune.
They
developed
that
little
Street
there
I.
K
We
were
talking
about
that
last
time
and
and
they
did
a
good
job
with
the
Meandering
and
different
storefronts
and
signage,
and,
and
that
is
our
intent
here.
We
took
that
to
heart.
The
other
part
that
you
mentioned
about
the
two
massing
being
different.
We
we
did
study
that
last
time
we
we
met
and
we're
changing
up
the
colors
and
some
of
the
materials
on
the
West's
half
from
the
East
half
to
distinguish
it
even
more
so
it
doesn't
feel
like
it's
all.
K
K
K
O
I
I
So,
in
regards
to
the
question
of
exceeding
200
and
feet
of
length,
when
I
look
at
the
intent
of
that
particular
part
of
the
code,
it
is
to
break
up
the
massing
for
a
pedestrian
to
make
it
not
feel
like
this
solid.
Even
if
it's
a
solid
wall
of
glass,
it
still
feels
solid,
so
I
think
you've
met
that
intent
really
well
and
and
that
setback
along
the
break
is
good.
I
Regarding
the
for
the
ninth
East
reduction
in
glass,
I
also
look
at
the
intent
of
that
and
I
I
think
there
have
been
times
where
we
have
seen
the
glass
percentage
met
and
it's
placed
in
a
way
that
doesn't
do
anybody
any
good.
So
I
think
you
again,
especially
with
your
wrap
around
with
the
potential
retail
on
that
corner,
are
activating
that
that
site
on
Ninth
East,
in
a
way
that
I'm
comfortable
with
that
particular
provision.
So
I
appreciate
the
those
attentions
to
those
components
of
what
you
want.
I
A
relief
from
and
and
how
you've
addressed
them,
so
I
I
really
just
wanted
to
point
those
parts
out
because
I
want
others
to
know
too
that
that's
a
really
nice
feature.
A
F
F
The
amount
of
parking
at
this
stage
of
the
game
maybe
consider
Zipcar
as
a
tenant,
because
we
have
a
bunch
of
students
that
live
in
that
area
that
they
really
don't
need
to
own
a
car,
but
they
want
one
to
get
to
the
ski
resorts
once
a
week
or
they
want
one
occasionally
to
do
errands
and
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
Zipcar
along
that
for
South
Corridor
and
I
I
assume
they'd
pay
rent
for
that
space,
I'm
just
putting
it
out.
There
is
an
option
for
something
you
could
do
with
the
parking
space
that.
F
A
K
D
D
Compared
to
the
standard
of
200
feet,
is
it's
just
a
huge
difference?
It's
a
huge
difference
and
I
guess
mid-block
walkways
are
not
required
in
this
part
of
the
city.
Sarah.
Is
that
true.
D
This,
when
I
was
there
today,
this
kind
of
still
feels
like
downtown
a
little
bit.
It
will
be
nice
to
have
something
besides
a
huge
parking
lot,
something
other
than
that
will
be
an
improvement,
but
I'm
I
I
think
that
that's
I
think
that
that's
so
long
that
request
is
so
far
out
of
What's.
D
What
is
allowed
kind
of
and
I
know
that
the
the
report
said
that
that
was
appropriate
for
this
block,
because
Banyan
Elementary
takes
up
so
much
of
the
block,
but
Binion
Elementary
is
it's
on
the
list
of
schools
that
are
considered
for
closure
by
the
Salt
Lake
City
School
District,
it's
not
a
it
won't
be
there
forever,
and
this
building
will
be
there
for
you
know
decades.
So,
I
kind
of
I'm,
I'm
I
wish
that
this
building
wasn't
so
long.
E
P
H
You
I
also
have
a
friendly
Amendment.
There
are
several
representations
of
this
setback
from
the
street
in
the
middle
in
this
staff
report
and
I
want
to
be
very
I.
Want
it
to
be
crystal
clear
that
the
one
that
is
a
greater
setback
in
that
in
that
break
is
the
one
that
we're
approving,
not
any
of
the
other
Renditions
that
are
actually
in
the
staff
report.
H
E
J
M
H
Let
me
go
and
is
that
in
your
so
it's
it's
in
your.
B
H
Yes,
yes,
there,
it
is
page
23
of
the
applicants.
That's
clearer,
page
23
of
the
applicants.
Okay,
so
let
me
word
this:
can
the
approval
is
is
based
on
the
level
two
plan
that
occurs
on
page
23
of
the
applicants,
application.
A
Okay,
we
have
an
amended
motion,
is
second,
okay
with
that.
Second.
A
We
have
a
motion
by
commissioner
Christensen,
a
second
by
commissioner
Ghent,
and
an
amendment
by
commissioner
Shearer
that
was
accepted
by
both
commissioner
Barry.
Yes,
commissioner,
Burroughs.
J
A
G
O
A
O
A
G
L
First
of
all
to
the
public
we
apologize
for
the
screen,
it
has
been
bashed
and
beyond
our
control,
but
the
planning
Commissioners
can
see
what
is
on
their
individual
screens.
This
is
a
project
that
is
twofold.
It
has
two
aspects
to
it:
one
is
a
zoning
map
Amendment
and
the
other
is
a
design
review
request.
This
is
for
a
project
called
the
10th
and
Elm
Apartments.
L
The
first
aspect
of
this
is
a
rezone
of
one
of
the
parcels
that
is
involved
in
this
project
from
RB,
which
is
residential
business
district
to
see
shpd,
which
is
a
Sugarhouse
business
district.
The
city
council
has
decision
making
Authority
for
zoning
map
Amendment
requests.
L
L
The
reason
this
is
before
you
tonight
you
make
a
recommendation
regarding
the
zoning
map
Amendment
request,
but
you
have
decision
making
Authority
for
the
design,
review
and
they're
in
design
review,
because
there
are
two
parameters
in
the
Sugarhouse
business
district,
one
being
the
size
of
the
project,
20
000
square
feet
or
greater,
requires
design,
review
and
or
a
building
that
is
30
feet
or
greater
in
height
up
to
a
maximum
of
60
feet.
L
Here
in
this
drawing,
you
can
see
the
the
parcel
that
is
requested
for
rezone,
and
you
can
also
see
that
just
a
portion
of
the
proposed
apartment
building
will
be
built
on
that
2157
parcel
and
the
big
bonus
is
the
Victorian
Mansion
will
be
for
lack
of
a
better
term
saved.
L
L
L
Here
are
the
here's,
the
South
elevation
and
you
can
see
kind
of
the
shadow
of
the
existing
Victorian
house
right
behind.
That
is
the
rental
office
in
a
long
Lincoln
Street
are
the
amenities
and
I
absolutely
agree
with
you
about
what
you
were
talking
about
earlier.
L
That
said,
I'm
really
going
to
let
the
applicant
talk
about
their
project,
but
again
we
are
recommending
approval
and
based
on
the
information
and
findings
listed
in
the
stock
report.
It's
planning
staff's
opinion
that
the
request
meets
the
applicable
standards
of
approval
for
a
zoning
map
Amendment
and
for
design
review
and
therefore
recommends
the
Planning
Commission
for
a
positive
recommendation
regarding
the
zoning
maximum
event
onto
the
city
council
for
consideration.
L
Planning
step
also
recommends
that
the
Planning
Commission
approved
the
design
review
request
pending
the
property
being
rezoned
by
the
city
council
and
subject
to
the
two
conditions,
as
listed
in
your
staff
report
and
finally,
I
did
receive
a
couple
of
public
comments
today
that
were
included
in
your
Dropbox.
So
I
hope
you
had
an
opportunity
of
those
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
I'd
be
happy
to
try
to
answer
those
for
you.
A
Q
R
R
Q
Yeah,
let
me
just
start
off
real
quick.
Just
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background.
We
spent
a
tremendous
amount
of
time
with
the
community
council,
with
the
land
use
Committee
in
Sugarhouse
I
think
we
met
well,
probably
five
or
six
times
with
the
land
use
committee
and
the
community
council.
Before
we
even
provided
an
application
into
this
city.
We
started
working
with
the
Community
First,
which
was
refreshing
that
the
applicant
was
willing
to
do
that.
I
represent
a
lot
of
people
that
don't
think
that
way.
Q
This
the
the
location
is
unique
in
that
it's
just
south
of
Brothers
Tires,
it's
adjacent
to
the
Smith's
grocery
store,
and
then
obviously
it
has
this
beautiful
old,
Victorian
home.
That's
part
of
the
project.
The
idea
with
this
setting
is
it's
Unique
in
that
it's
still
Sugarhouse
Central
business
district
zoning
and
allows
for
the
multi-family,
but
we're
surrounded
on
two
sides,
with
Elm
residential
single-family
residential
on
the
south
side
and
then
on.
The
east
side
of
the
building
is
single
family
residential
as
well.
Q
We
don't
front
much
commercial
Corridor,
we
front
along
the
Smith's
grocery
loading
docks
on
our
West
flank,
but
one
thing
that
you'll
notice
is:
we
did
not
take
the
30-foot
license
to
put
before
you
have
to
recess
your
height.
We
did
it
after
the
first
floor
and
the
idea
was
to
do
a
softer
residential
Garden,
Style
walk-ups
on
the
perimeter,
and
then
we
moved
the
building
back,
that
15
feet
or
20
feet
per
zoning,
but
we
did
it
after
to
the
first
floor,
rather
than
30
feet.
Q
The
idea
was,
is
we
didn't
want
to
encroach
to
the
best
of
our
ability
to
the
single
family
units
on
the
west
and
the
South
flank?
So
it
has
a
little
bit
of
a
softer
feel
of
multifam
family
and
mixed
use
than
most
of
the
projects
in
Sugarhouse
and
that's
by
Design
and
then
you'll
see
with
the
Victorian
in
the
corner
and
the
open
space.
Q
When
we've
had
an
opportunity
to
tour,
the
Victorian
Jordan
will
go
into
a
little
bit
more
of
this
answering
your
questions,
but
the
beauty
is,
is
there's.
11
foot
clears
on
the
third
floor,
so
it's
a
beautiful
building
for
amenities,
we're
going
to
use
it
for
Billiards
Pool
gaming
for
a
collab
office.
Q
Co-Op
we've
got
a
cooking
demonstration
kitchen
on
the
main
floor
and
a
whole
host
of
different
amenities
for
the
residents
of
our
project
will
have
the
Victorian
home
and
then
that
soft
sort
of
old
style
grounds
around
it
and
and
and
what
it
does
is
it
allows
for
our
residents
to
leave
their
multi-family
unit,
go
into
a
really
unique
setting
and
still
have
all
their
amenities
in
within
the
community,
and
subsequently
it
will
be
preserved.
It
will
be
brought
back
to
its
Grandeur
on
the
exterior.
We
have
to
do
Ada
upgrades.
S
Yeah
I
would
like
to
kind
of
walk
through
the
plan
entrances
into
it.
We
do
have
like
Mark
had
mentioned.
We
have
units
that's
around
kind
of
the
residential,
the
single-family
home,
there's
a
private
entrance
into
the
garage
to
the
north
side
of
the
project.
We
are
currently
more
than
one-to-one
ratio
with
our
parking,
the
Victorian.
The
plan
is
for
the
Victorian
to
remain
and
become
amenity
for
the
for
the
project,
as
Mark
mentioned
the
building
after
level.
One
is
when
we
do
take
the
step
back.
S
We
also
took
advantage
of
that
along
the
boundaries
of
the
Victorian,
so
you'll
notice
in
this
rendering
that
the
sites
that
also
face
Victorian
are
also
stepping
back
so
that
the
Victorian
isn't
crowded
as
well.
So
it
really
our
our
goal
was
that
the
Victorian
becomes
the
the
gem
of
the
the
development.
S
Moving
to
some
of
the
street
elevations,
you
have
South
elevation,
you
can
see.
I
know
Lex
touched
on
this
kind
of
the
gray
hatch
with
the
Victorian.
This
is
to
scale
we
had
the
house
scanned,
so
you
can
see
that
the
building
only
extends
one
story
above
that
Victorian
so
really
tried
to
makes
it
make
it
make
it
fit
within
the
the
design
along
the
east
side,
which
is
where
we
have
single
family
residents.
S
You
can
see
that
it's
all
very
Street,
interfaced
of
walk-up
apartment,
complex
or
walk-up
units
along
that
side
are
more
pedestrian.
Side
is,
like
Mark,
said,
towards
the
Smiths
building.
Let.
Q
Q
We
did
that
on
purpose
to
get
any
kind
of
activity,
visitor
activity,
visitor
parking,
completely
removed
from
the
single
family,
residence
both
on
the
East
and
the
South
Side.
So
we
took
tremendous
care
in
how
we
service
the
layout
of
this
project,
trying
to
be
a
softer
user
and
a
Json
user
to
the
single
family,
as
we
could.
S
S
Loading
dock
as
well
is
enclosed
space,
and
then
this
entrance
right
here
would
be
into
the
office
space.
So
not
only
do
we
have
one-to-one
parking
for
the
units.
We
also
are
accounting
for
parking
areas
for
the
office
space
that
is
excluded
from
any
street
parking
accounted
for
in
the
in
the
building
and
then
along
the
north
side.
S
This
this
faces
or
butts
up
against
21
Urbana
apartment,
complex
here's
kind
of
a
site
layout,
so
you
can
see
the
existing
multi-family
Victorian
again
with
the
Google
Earth
image,
so
you
can
see
the
streets
around.
A
Thank
you,
questions
for
the
applicant
and
we
can
get
likes
back
up
here
too.
I
I
have
a
couple
questions
so
on
the
Lincoln
Street
side,
I
question
concentrating
all
of
that.
You
you
talk
about
the
loading
dock,
but
honestly,
where
you're
going
to
be
right
across
from
is
what
the
one
of
the
main
entrances
of
people
are
getting
into
the
Smith's
parking
lot:
that's
how
I
get
in
there
I
don't
go
off
of
21st,
South
or
9th
East,
so
the
loading
dock
is
I,
think
misleading,
because
it's
it's
not
necessarily
terribly
visible
from
the
street.
I
It's
a
very
small
loading
area
and
so
I
think
that
on
10th
you
have
a
corner
with
two
single
family
residents:
one's
a
duplex
on
the
corner,
so
you've
got
three,
maybe
four.
If
the
other
one's
a
duplex
I
can't,
remember,
I,
think
that
honestly,
like
you,
can
see
in
this
rendering
here,
if
you
look
on
Lincoln
like
the
loading
dock,
is,
is
parallel
to
Smith's
building.
I
So
it's
not
as
if
it's
as
active
as
a
normal
loading
dock,
and
then
you
have
a
nice
screened
back
of
the
building.
They've
got
sort
of
IV
and
weeds,
or
whatever
growing
up
so
that
I
question
the
concentrating
the
entrance.
Next
to
there,
because
that
is
a
fairly
can
be
fairly
busy
and
it
has
some
limited
visibility
when
you're
going
trying
to
get
out
of
the
Smith's
parking
lot
with
the
on-street
parking.
So
people
are
just
kind
of
driving
fast
and
you
you
have
some
limited
visibility.
I
If
you're
trying
to
get
out
and
turn
left
I'm,
not
saying
you
shouldn't,
have
an
entrance
and
exit
there,
but
I
also
think
you
might
want
to
take
advantage
more
also
of
spreading
that
out
along
10th,
because
that's
not
as
busy
of
a
straight
and
and
I
think
your
primary
single
family
residential
area
that
you
really
need
to
pay
attention
to
and
buffer
is
the
whole
southern
side
across
the
street.
Because
east
of
you,
you
have
just
those
two
corner
beds
and
then
you've
got
in.
I
R
Q
Was
it
was
just
to
keep
that
visitor
traffic
off
of
the
other
side,
so
we
thought
we
were
doing
a
really
creative
way
by
the
residents
pulling
in
off
one
side,
your
visitors,
your
lease
up
and
your
servicings
off
the
other
side,
and
it
was
just
trying
not
to
contaminate
both
sides
of
it.
We
felt
that
we
by
bifurcating
circulation,
we
were
doing
a
nice
job
and
then
with
the
what
happened
after
we
started
the
plan.
Q
Is
the
city
came
with
the
new
plan
for
2100
South
and
there's
going
to
be
no
cross
access
off
of
10th
they're,
going
to
cut
that
they're
going
to
put
a
median
in
the
street
there.
So
then
it
becomes
an
even
quieter
circulation
route
for
our
residents
to
come
in
and
out
of,
unfortunately,
for
them
it's
right
in
and
right
out
off
of
that
site,
Northbound
on
2100,
but
I
think
it'll
serve
better
for
the
circulation
of
the
community.
So.
Q
We
are
not
the
owners
of
it.
I
can't
speak
eloquently
to
that
Amy,
but
I
know
that
that's
been
the
dialogue
all
along.
We
represented
that
that
there
would
be
a
relationship
provided
with
the
city,
council
and
a
comfort
level
so
that
that
home
remained
a
useful
amenity
Center
and
remained
in
perpetuity.
I
just
can't
speak
to
it,
but
I
know
that
they're
willing
to
do
that
with
the
city
council
as
part
of
the
requirements
of
approval,
so
I.
I
Would
say
a
relationship
and
a
development
agreement
are
two
vastly
different
things,
and
I
would
be
comfortable
in
this
particular
instance
forwarding
an
actual
like
wording
that
it
was
a
development
agreement.
The
city
council
is
the
ultimate
decider,
but
that
is
an
extremely
well
maintained
residence
and
it
has
been
my
entire
existence
in
Sugarhouse,
so
yeah
I
would
I
would
be
really.
I
It
would
be
really
important
that
we
word
something
to
the
city
council
for
a
recommendation
that
is
strongly
advises
that
we
do
what
we
can
to
ensure
that
that
home
is
is
protected.
It
is
not
dilapidated.
It's
not
fallen
down,
so
I
think.
Preserving.
Q
I
think
everybody
would-
and
it's
it's
nobody's
intention
in
fact
we're
spending
a
tremendous
amount
of
money,
upgrading
it
Ada.
It's
not
ADA
Compliant,
there's
a
bunch
of
stuff.
We
have
to
do
to
it.
A
lot
of
the
exterior
work
will
go
back
to
its
original
Grandeur
they're
excited
to
have
this
as
they're
sort
of
it's
a
differentiator
for
Leasing
and
for
residents
in
Sugarhouse,
because
none
of
the
other
projects
have
an
amenity,
Center
and
a
circumstance
like
it.
Q
So
I
think
that
in
good
confidence,
Amy
they'll
be
working
with
the
city
attorney's
office
to
get
some
kind
of
documentation
in
order
that
everybody's
comfortable
with
but
I'm
very
comfortable.
With
your
recommendations.
As
such,
it's
been
represented
to
us
on
the
design
and
delivery
team
from
the
get-go
that
it
was
saved.
So
it
would
surprise
me
that
they
wouldn't
be
do
able
to
do
or
willing
to
do
the
same.
H
To
be
clear,
the
existing
Carriage
House
and
whatever
that
little
garden
building
both
of
those
will
be
torn
down.
Q
Correct
and
and
commissioner,
the
carriage
house
is
a
automotive
paint
shop
and
it
actually
has
environmental
stuff
that
we
have
to
clean
out
of
there.
There
was
nothing
in
there
that
warranted
saving.
It's
literally
been
converted
into
an
automotive
paint
shop,
and
no
one
knew
that
we
didn't
so,
yes
that
will
all
be
removed.
A
T
T
The
project
meets
the
purpose
of
the
master
plan
and
the
Sugarhouse
business
district,
one
and
two
zones.
The
only
difference
really
between
the
zones
is
height,
we're
in
favor
of
rezoning
the
RB
lot
to
provide
some
continuity.
T
The
former
Liberty
Village
has
always
said
they
have
extra
parking
in
their
building
and
I.
Think
that's
because
everybody
was
parking
on
Elm,
so
I
know
we
don't
have
such
thing
as
a
Neighborhood
Housing
parking
permit
system
that
works
anymore,
but
this
would
be
a
very
good
place
to
talk
about
that
and
I.
Second,
what
you
say
about
the
Victorian
house
will
kill
you
mark.
T
This
is
now
codified
in
the
ordinance
Mr
Isaac
wants
to
pretend
that
didn't
happen
and
ask
for
five
foot
setbacks
sidewalks
for
this
project.
First,
because
the
existing
sidewalks
on
10th,
Elm
and
Lincoln
are
five
and
he
should
be
allowed
to
do
the
same.
We
say
no,
we
didn't
discuss
this
for
so
many
years
and
Amy
can
help
me
remember
how
many
years,
five
years,
10
years,
15
years
we've
been
talking
about
five
foot
sidewalks
aren't
wide
enough
in
Sugar
House.
T
We
finally
got
it
passed,
and
this
is
not
the
time
to
overwhelm
to
overturn
that.
On
the
first
project,
we
have
many
new
apartment
buildings,
they're
going
to
come
before
you
they're
all
in
Sugarhouse
business
district,
one
and
I
am
not
in
favor
of
any
of
those
having
five
foot
sidewalks.
But
if
we
set
the
precedent
here,
it's
dangerous.
T
The
other
issue-
that's
not
at
all
clear,
is
the
new
Landscaping
requirements
and
how
that
will
affect
sidewalk
width
and
the
width
of
the
median,
who
think
it's
important,
that
we
have
Street
trees
throughout
the
business
district
and
we
don't
want
them
planted,
surrounded
by
rocks
or
concrete,
or
even
the
fake
grass
I
heard
a
blip
on
the
radio.
Today.
That
said,
some
huge
number,
like
40
percent
of
the
plastic
in
the
ocean,
is
artificial
turf.
T
T
If
all
these
can
be
provided
along
with
the
development
agreement
concerning
the
parking
and
now
the
Victorian
house,
we're
approve
this
project.
There
are
also
other
comments
attached
to
my
letter
and
I
apologize.
I
know
my
letter
was
late
in
coming,
so
I
hope
you
all
got
it
and
read
it.
Thank
you.
Thank.
U
I'm
Lena
Schwartz
I
would
like
to
speak
to
the
request
to
reduce
the
sidewalk
width
from
the
zoning
required
10
feet
to
5
to
7
feet
as
delineated
on
page
73
of
the
staff
report.
I
find
it
extremely
disturbing
that
one
of
the
first
major
projects
after
the
zoning
was
revised
to
require
wider
sidewalks
wider
sidewalk
widths.
U
As
for
this,
with
reduction,
the
rationale
for
this
references,
the
Sugar
House
master
plan
business
district
design
guidelines
handbook,
which
asks
a
six
to
eight
foot
widths
I
want
to
emphasize
that
the
zoning
was
changed
to
require
wider
widths,
because
six
to
eight
feet
was
found
to
be
insufficient
in
promoting
pedestrian
friendly
environments.
This
is
why
the
wider
widths
are
now
required.
U
I
also
find
it
extremely
disappointing
that,
according
to
the
applicant's
narrative,
both
the
planning
staff
and
the
planning
director
felt
that
reducing
the
sidewalk
widths
to
even
less
than
the
original
design
guidelines
was
good
appropriate
and
complies
with
the
zoning
now
in
place.
I
would
also
have
appreciated
it
if
the
applicant
had
put
this
major
request
in
any
of
the
narrative
regarding
the
other
zoning
change
and
not
have
the
only
mention
of
it,
Beyond
page
73
of
the
staff
report.
If
this
is
granted,
this
will
be
only
the
first
of
with
reduction
requests.
V
I'm
Rebecca
Davis
I
am
supportive
of
the
requested
rezone
for
the
historical
building.
That's
part
of
the
10th
and
Elm
project
regarding
reducing
the
width
of
the
sidewalks
around
the
exterior
of
the
project
from
10
feet
to
5
feet.
I
am
not
in
support
of
this.
The
sidewalks
need
to
remain
10
feet
wide
to
allow
pedestrians
with
dogs
and
or
children
to
pass
each
other
comfortably
and
remain
on
the
sidewalk.
Ten
foot
sidewalks
are
now
required
in
Sugarhouse,
and
this
project
should
be
required
to
follow
the
10-foot
sidewalk
ordinance.
Thank
you.
A
F
Madam
chair
I
just
want
to
point
out
the
chair
of
the
Sugarhouse
land
news
Community
referenced
a
letter
that
she
suggested
should
be
in
our
report
and
I'm
I'm
I,
don't
see
it
was.
A
You
did
not
receive
the
letter
either
Judy,
we
aren't
sure
what
happened
to
it.
A
L
So
the
discussion
of
the
sidewalk
with
is
on
page
70.,
2
and
73.
It's
criteria,
n
and.
I
So
I'll
pipe
in
I
think
you
know
the
the
I
can't
think
of
the
word.
Your
interpretation
of
that
particular
standard
is
I,
think
open
for
a
discussion
to
the
commission
into
that
the
so
the
Sugarhouse
business
district
guidelines
were
written
well
before
the
new
or
ordinance
that
came
out
that
listed
10
feet.
Sidewalks
the
community
has
been
pushing
for
larger
sidewalks
for
at
least
15
years,
and
so
those
two
things
are
going
to
be
incongruent.
I
I
I
There
is
a
lot
of
pedestrian
activity,
streetcar
with
Fairmont
Park
and
with
all
of
the
other
things
that
are
going
on
on
21st
South
and
that
so
I
think
it
warrants
a
look
from
the
Planning
Commission
to
decide
if
this
area
is
really
more
of
a
residential
nature
or
if
it
is
part
of
that
extension
of
the
Sugarhouse
business
district
and
and
and
fostering
more
walkability
that
you
know,
we
want
to
look
at
the
widths
of
those
sidewalks
where
we
have
narrower
sidewalks.
You
cannot
get
two
people
walking.
I
You
you
just
can't
you
get
somebody
with
a
with
a
stroller
or
whatnot,
and
you
gotta
like
pull
off
to
the
side
to
let
them
go
so
I
think
this
is
a
discussion
for
the
commission,
that's
worth
having
and
looking
at
how
this
was
interpreted
and
if
we
think
that's
adequate,
I,
I
think
a
five
foot
sidewalk
in
this
area
is
not
adequate,
given
the
nature
of
of
its
walkability
and
it's
part
of
the
business
district.
L
Can
I
add
a
couple
things
to
that
of
course
sure?
So,
not
really!
You
you've
cited
a
couple
documents.
There
is
another
one:
the
the
Sugarhouse
business
district
circulation
and
amenities
plan
and
that
looks
at
sidewalk
widths
along
21st,
South,
Highland,
11th,
East,
McClellan
and
11th
East.
L
So
the
McClellan
map
shows-
and
that's
the
one
closest
to
this
project.
It's
literally
a
block
away
that
appropriate
sidewalks
for
that
area
are
five
to
eight
feet.
So
that's
part
of
that
rationale
too.
The
other
consideration
there's
a
couple
other
considerations,
one
the
park
strip.
There
is
extremely
narrow
and
in
talking
with
the
planning
director,
we
felt
that
it
was
more
appropriate
to
have
a
narrower
sidewalk
and
a
park
strip
with
trees,
because
that's
required
then
a
another
sea
of
concrete.
I
You
Lex
I
I
would
also
note
that
the
streetscape
amenity
plan
was
very
focused
in
its
review
of
what
it
looked
at
the
locations
it
looked
at
in
terms
of
how
it
was
looking
at
circulation-
and
you
know
this
section
of
the
Sugarhouse
business
district
who
was
not
included
in
that
that
Focus
area
for
the
circulation
industry
Escape
amenities
plan.
I
It
was
very
focused
on
McClellan
21st
in
Highland,
so
I
don't
know
that
that
rationale
like
bleeds
out
enough
for
me,
because
I
know
this
area
wasn't
really
part
of
that
and
the
you
will
see
that
McClellan
has
undergone
a
vast
overhaul
and
that
was
part
of
that
Focus,
because
we
had
these
existing
sidewalks
that
streetscape
and
circulation
amenities
plan
came
at
a
time
when
a
lot
of
that
hadn't
been
or
has
some
of
it
had
been
developed
already
and
some
of
it
hadn't,
and
so
the
overhaul
of
McClelland
was
really
in
a
reflection
to
those
narrow,
sidewalks
we're
not
going
to
have
the
ability
to
overhaul
Elm
and
10th
and
Lincoln
in
the
same
fashion.
I
I
You
still
have
a
more
inviting
way
to
walk
and
then
you
can
still
have
trees,
but
you
may
not
have
this
narrow
park
strip
which
is
going
to
be
rocks
and
then
a
tree
rocks
and
then
a
tree
because
that's
what
we
saw
in
McClelland.
It.
I
H
According
to
our
new
landscape
requirements,
the
the
park
strip
has
to
have
a
certain
amount
of
plant
material.
What's
up.
I
I
think
that
staff
has
brought
up
a
lot
not
only
in
the
interpretation
and
the
staff
report,
but
also
just
now
a
lot
of
things
for
us
to
think
about,
and
discuss
and
I
think
it's
a
worth
a
discussion
from
other
Commissioners
and
not
just
pretending
that
it's
not
an
issue.
Okay,
if.
H
H
F
I
hear
it's
a
big
ask
and
it
it
makes
me
uncomfortable
at
the
same
time,
five
foot
sidewalks
this
neighborhood
is
problematic
with
the
traffic
in
it
right
now.
In
my
view,
it's
sort
of
not
good
for
pedestrians,
and
it's
not
good
for
cars
right
now
and
anything
we
can
do
to
kind
of
make
it
more
pedestrian,
friendly
and
change
that
equilibrium,
because
it
I
don't
care
which
particular
Street
it
is.
We
just
need
more
people
accomplishing
errands
on
foot.
H
H
F
H
You
actually
do
have
actual
I
think
that
the
rule
actually
says
that
the
director
has
discretion
on
this.
So
we
can
look
that
up,
but
I
I
don't
know
for
sure,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
that
this
is
a
discretionary
item
and
why
it's
not
before
us
as
a
decision.
It
is
not
before
us
as
a
decision
I
mean
we
can
decide
to
delve
into
it.
But
that's
why
it's
not
one
of
the
things
that
we're
deciding
here.
Design.
F
L
So
let
me
let
me
read
that
section
of
code
for
you,
because
Brenda
you're,
correct
and
what
it
says
is
that
modifications
and
it
talks
about
the
sidewalk
with
modifications
to
this
requirement
may
be
approved
by
the
planning
director
if
in
compliance
with
the
adopted,
Sugarhouse
circulation
and
Street,
Escape
amenities
plan
or
a
successor,
and
so
that's
why
I
was
referring
to
that.
That
plan.
Q
And
let
me
just
add,
just
from
the
applicant's
perspective
real
quickly,
we
were
trying
like
heck
to
not
look
like
McClellan
I
represent
both
sides
of
McClellan
coming
up
in
the
near
future,
Thackery
on
one
side,
vitec
on
the
other
you're
going
to
see
new
stuff
coming,
and
they
can't
stand
the
McClellan
changes
and
all
the
concrete.
And
it's
not
made
that
street
soft
and
pedestrian
and
bike
friendly.
Q
It's
increased
its
capacity,
but
it's
awful
looking
and
all
we
were
trying
to
do
was
maintain
a
little
bit
of
the
old
character
that
surrounds
the
Victorian
with
that
green
space
and
that
scale
and
we
didn't
mean
to
get
sideways
or
or
create
conflict.
It's
just.
We
felt
this
was
a
unique
location
and
a
unique
circumstance,
and
we
didn't
want
concrete
to
concrete
and
that
that's
literally
the
reason
for
how
we
designed
it
and
how
we
laid
it
out.
So.
I
So
I
have
a
question
in
for
staff.
If
say,
the
the
width
of
the
sidewalk
was
increased
to
like
at
least
eight
feet
and
well
I
guess.
My
question
is
how
what
is
the
width
of
the
narrow
park
strip,
if
that
is
incorporated
into
the
sidewalk,
so
that
it's
not
encroaching
or
making
the
project
be
redesigned.
I
I
I
I
It
doesn't
have
to
have
a
park
strip
to
have
a
tree.
It's
my
point.
So
if
you
took
that
narrow
park
strip
and
added
it
to
the
sidewalk,
you
would
not
be
adjusting
any
part
of
the
design
of
the
application.
You
would
merely
be
using
the
public
right-of-way
with
that
park
strip
and
increasing
the
width
of
the
sidewalk
and
then
still
keeping
some
Landscaping
with
trees
with
it,
which
I
think.
D
I
I'm
sympathetic
to
the
community
saying
we
worked
really
hard
to
get
this
to
get
10
foot
wide
sidewalks,
and
this
is
the
first
project.
That's
under
that
rule
and
now
it's
being
accepted,
which
I
I
am
sympathetic
to
that
in
the
arguments
that
Amy
is
making
as
well
I,
wonder
if
there's
a
way
there
there
is
a
difference
between
grass
with
trees
on
it
and
that
park
strip
that
just
would
be
rocks
like
hostile
architecture
right.
So
you
can't
push
your
you
can't
walk
with
your
dog
over
that
part.
D
I
There
is
a
section
of
the
sidewalk
on
12th
East
that
that
goes
from
five
feet
and
it
widens
out
to
eight
and
it's
wonderful,
as
as
people
walk
it's
it
and
it
is,
and
there
is
no
park
strip
and
and
if
from
somebody
that
lives
in
that
area,
I
remember
I
always
wish
that
the
entire
sidewalk
was
that
wide
and
it's
a
residential
area
so
having
a
narrow
sidewalk,
doesn't
make
it
feel
more
residential,
especially
in
an
area
where
people
are
walking
and
people
are
walking.
I
Their
dogs
and
people
are
out
with
their
kids
having
a
little
bit
more
width
on
that
sidewalk
is,
is
really
inviting
and
and
that's
from
personal
experience
on
on
the
road
right
around
from
my
house.
So
you
know,
I
I,
don't
know
that
we
can
mandate,
that
it
be
grass
and
how
the
city
and
is
like
hey
your
grass
is
dead
or
you're
gonna
like
get
it
going
again.
I
So
I
just
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
But
I
know
what
we
end
up
getting
is
rocks
and
if
you
think
about
how
you
interact
with
with
an
area
and
so
I'm
thinking
about
how
I
interact
with
the
business
district,
when
I
walk
around
those
narrow,
sidewalks
and
then
with
the
buildings
as
high
as
they
are
and
closer
to
the
sidewalk.
That
is
what
makes
you
feel
like
it's
not
as
inviting
and
it's
not
as
safe
and
it's
and
it's
not
as
great
of
an
experience.
I
So
while
yeah
the
community
has
been
working
on
the
10-foot
sidewalk,
it
was
because
we
know
how
this
area
has
been
interacting
and
and
how
we've
been
interacting
with
the
area
and
how
the
sidewalk
width
is
a
big
part
of
that.
So
I'm,
you
know
I'm
more
along
the
lines
of
like
hey.
How
can
we
extend
the
sidewalk
and
not
impact
the
actual
application
or
the
applicant's
design,
so
we
don't
encroach
on
their
setback,
but
we
take
advantage
of
that
right
away.
That
is
most
likely
going
to
end
up
being
like
rocks.
H
We
we,
you
know,
we
have
to
also
acknowledge
and
I
think
it's
a
great
design
at
attribute
that
the
applicant
has
done,
which
is
to
pull
back
the
mass
of
the
building
on
the
second
floor
and
above
so
that
really
as
you're
walking
along
you
won't
feel
six
story,
high
wall.
It
will
be
a
one-story
High
hop
wall,
and
that
is
a
more
residential
scale.
B
Sorry,
oh
I
was
going
to
jump
in
and
suggest
that
we
make
a
motion
on
the
zoning
portion.
So
yes,
I'd,
like
to
make
a
motion.
Thank.
A
We
have
a
motion
by
commissioner
Christensen
and
he's
second
by
commissioner
Barry,
and
this
is
just
on
the
zoning
map
Amendment
commissioner
Barry.
Yes,
commissioner
Burroughs.
Yes,
commissioner
Christensen.
Yes,
commissioner
Shearer.
Yes,
commissioner
Tuggle,
yes,
commissioner,
Ghent,
yes
and
the
chair
will
also
vote
Yes,
so
the
zoning
map
Amendment
passes.
F
Just
wanted
to
sort
of
revisit
commissioner
Barry's
question
of
the
sort
of
park
strip
versus
sidewalk
I
wouldn't
have
kept
the
Victorian
Mansion,
but
I
never
see
value
in
historic
preservation,
so
I
realize
I'm
a
minority,
but
I
do
notice
rendering
how
much
Green
Space
there
is.
So
when
I
think
about
like
the
motivation
for
a
park
strip
it
this
building
already
has
shade
right.
F
The
building
itself
is
going
to
shade
the
sidewalks
in
the
summer
and
we're
adding
a
lot
of
Green
Space
by
by
allowing
that
Victorian
Mansion
to
stay
with
all
that
green
space
around.
So
to
me,
this,
this
development
looks
like
it
has
enough
Green
Space
at
least
Park
strips
in
my
neighborhood.
What
happens?
Is
the
bushes
get
overgrown
and
you
get
even
less
sidewalk?
That's
my
issue
with
Park
strips
is
anyway
so
I
think
I'd,
be
in
favor
of
commissioner
varies
view
that
we
make
it
all
sidewalk.
So
we
have
a
wider
sidewalk.
H
Isn't
the
park
strip
issue
a
zoning
recommended
approval
of,
but
I
think
that
there's
that's
where
the
that's
where
the
10-foot
sidewalk
thing
up
applies.
It's
in
zoning.
E
Correct,
if,
if
there's
that
section
of
the
zoning
ordinance
does
refer
to
the
planning
director
and
give
him
give
them
discretion
to
modify
that
you
can't
I,
don't
know
you
can
necessarily
override
that
as
part
of
just
a
design
review
application.
You
might
be
able
to
do
that
as
as
a
condition
of
the
zoning
amendments,
so
that
might
have
to
be
reopened
if,
if
you're
inclined
to
add
conditions
to
the
zoning
Amendment.
I
So
that
is
correct.
When
I
was
looking
at
the
standards,
I
thought
I
was
in
the
design
review
standards,
so
that
was
I
want
to
rescind
my
second
I
don't
know,
I
mean
I
would
be
open
to
opening
that
up
again.
That
was
an
absolute
oversight
and
I
wish
that
had
been
brought
out
that
we
were
in
the
zoning
math
Amendment
standards
with
Section
n.
L
H
I'd
like
to
make
commission
okay,
commissioner,
thank
you,
based
on
the
information
presented
in
discussion,
I
move
that
the
commission
approved
this
application
based
on
staff's
recommendation
with
the
two
conditions
in
the
staff
report.
I'll.
A
I
W
W
I
So
I
want
to
make
a
comment:
I'll
withdraw
The,
Substitute
motion
for
this
this
particular
component,
but
I
am
dismayed
that
you
didn't
bring
that
up
to
us
prior
to
the
zoning
map.
Knowing
we
were
having
that
discussion
and
that
that
was
you
know,
I
think
that
now
I
feel
like
and
I
wish
that
had
been
brought
to
our
attention
prior
to
us.
Moving
on
the
zoning
map,
Amendment.
A
A
A
I
A
A
B
A
I
Madam
chair
I'd,
like
to
make
a
motion.
Okay,
based
on
the
information
presented
in
discussion.
I,
move
that
the
commission
recommend
that
the
city
council
approve
the
zoning
map
Amendment,
with
a
condition
that
we
enter
into
a
development
agreement
for
the
preservation
of
the
Victorian
house
on
the
corner
of
Elm
and
Lincoln.
And
when
the
additional
condition
that
we
extend
the
sidewalk
to
the
include
the
parking
strip
for
a
wider
sidewalk.
A
I
A
Thank
you,
yes,
we'll
take
a
five
minute
break.
Thank
you.
O
O
O
X
X
X
X
This
area
is
part
of
the
ballpark
area,
although
it
is
not
part
of
the
ballpark
station
plan
area.
So
on
that
note,
the
ballpark
station
area
plan
does
not
recommend
any
changes
to
this
area.
Obviously
because
it's
to
the
south
of
1700
South
1700
South
is
a
major
Corridor.
Road
West
Temple
Street
is
a
collector
Road
1720
South
has
an
existing
single-family
dwelling
in
1734
has
an
existing
non-conforming
duplex.
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
The
the
map
on
the
left
is
the
future
land
use
map
I've
tried
to
blow
it
up.
If
you
will
to
the
picture
on
the
right,
so
the
circled
properties
are
so
at
the
top.
These
are
the
six
that
are
closest
to
1700
South
that
were
rezoned
to
the
one
to
the
R1
5000,
and
then
this
one
is
two
properties
that
was
rezone
you're,
not
going
to
be
able
to
see
the
other
one.
At
least
the
public
won't.
X
Most
of
the
properties
south
of
1700
South
around
this
area
are
labeled
on
the
land
use
map
as
medium
residential,
mixed
use
or
medium
density
residential
by
Remy,
by
remaining
labeled
low
density
residential
on
the
future
land
use
map.
The
subject
properties
are
no
longer
compatible
with
the
surrounding
uses.
X
Most
of
the
development
in
the
current
zoning
are
designated
for
higher
densities.
The
master
plan
should
be
amended
to
show
these
two
properties
as
medium
density
residential
to
allow
for
future
multi-family
and
or
mixed-use
development
potential.
In
order
to
make
the
subject
properties
more
compatible
with
the
current
uses
around
them.
X
X
X
X
Since
the
subject,
property
is
less
than
half
an
acre.
There
will
be
limitations
on
the
buildable
area
put
on
the
development
proposed
for
it,
which
would
keep
the
scale
of
the
building
compatible
with
the
adjacent
developments
for
a
residential
proposal.
Parking
and
Heights
would
restrict
be
excuse.
Me
would
be
just
restricted
due
to
fire
codes
and
zoning
ordinance
requirements
for
commercial
uses.
X
I
At
this,
I
have
a
question
for
staff,
so
this
is
a
zoning
map
is
what
a
mishmash
I
have
zones.
What
is
the
the
zone
for
the
CW
project
on
the
corner?.
A
Y
It
yeah
that
would
be
much
better
there.
It
is
okay.
Thank
you
on
behalf
of
the
ballpark
Community
Council
and
its
neighborhood
residence.
My
name
is
Amy
J
Hawkins
I
serve
as
its
chair
I'm
here
to
report
to
the
Planning
Commission
that
the
five
members
of
the
board
of
the
ballpark
Community
Council
voted
unanimously
against
supporting
this
proposed
rezone
zoning
map
Amendment.
Y
As
mentioned
these
two
Parcels,
are
included
in
the
portion
of
West
Temple.
Actually
this
wasn't
mentioned.
These
two
Parcels
are
included
in
the
portion
of
West
Temple.
That's
currently
under
consideration
for
the
300
West,
Corridor
and
station
area
plan,
but
was
was
mentioned,
was
no
development
plans
were
submitted
or
presented
to
the
neighborhood
with
this
application,
so
there
was
no
way
to
talk
with
neighbors
about
evaluating
the
proposed
rezone
for
any
kind
of
community
benefit
or
housing
loss,
and
so
I'll
repeat
what
another
Resident
wrote
to
express
today.
Y
We
hosted
a
conversation
with
city
planner,
Diana
Martinez
and
the
property
owner
at
our
April
6th
ballpark
community
council
meeting,
which
we
held
over
Zoom.
Our
meeting
had
82
attendees
in
that
portion
of
the
meeting
lasted
about
15
minutes.
Y
At
our
meeting,
I
regret
that
we
didn't
make
more
of
an
effort
to
present
to
our
fellow
community
members
about
the
ballpark
neighborhood's
down
zoning
ordinance
from
2016,
which
did
rezone
155
Parcels
in
the
neighborhood.
Luckily,
our
long-serving
board
member
Jeff
sandstrom
was
attending
the
meeting
and
when
the
question
came
up,
he
knew
specifically
that
the
down
Zone
to
low
density
residential
did
specifically
apply
to
these
two
West
Temple
Parcels
in
question.
Y
As
more
and
more
apartment,
buildings
are
proposed
for
our
neighborhood,
both
affordable
and
market
rate.
Our
neighborhood
becomes
increasingly
dense
and
it
has
a
demonstrable
need
for
more
infrastructure
and
Community
benefits.
You're
already
aware
that
we
have
issues
with
Community
safety
in
the
past
five
years,
total
crime
in
ballpark
has
increased
by
34
and
the
increase
in
part.
Two
crime
is
even
more
striking.
That's
an
increase
of
43
percent
and
your
planners
right
I
can
imagine
some
of
you
might
be
thinking.
Y
In
other
words,
to
quote
my
fellow
board
member
Fraser,
Nelson
ballpark's,
new
and
incoming
high
density
housing
is
well
so
far.
The
map,
the
vast
majority
of
it,
is
rental
which,
although
very
helpful
for
the
city's
housing
crisis,
does
not
add
to
the
stability
of
our
neighborhood
I
argue.
We
need
to
plan
for
that
stability
by
going
through
the
300,
West,
Corridor
and
stationary
plan
process,
which
will
apply
to
these
parcels
and
this
entire
segment
of
West
Temple
from
17th
South
to
21st
South.
Y
We
hope
the
city
can
address
some
of
the
deficits
in
the
ballpark
station
area
plan
which
apply
to
the
ballpark
neighborhood
from
900
South
to
17th
South
ballpark
neighborhood
is
underserved
in
terms
of
the
open
space.
It's
labeled
as
a
high
need
area
in
Salt,
Lake,
City's
parks
and
public
lands
needs
assessment
from
April.
2019
were
underserved
in
terms
of
urban
Forest
canopy,
both
in
the
public
right-of-way
and
in
private
space.
Y
We
have
2.4
Park
a
for
6
000
residents
and
our
tree
canopy
coverage
measured
by
census,
Block
matches
the
lowest
category
in
the
city,
one
to
eleven
percent.
The
results
of
that
are
the
health
disparities
that
you
should
expect
a
noticeable
measurable
heat
island.
When
surface
temperatures
were
last
measured
by
census,
Block
in
Salt,
Lake
City,
they
match
the
highest
in
the
city
in
ballpark,
118
to
121
degrees,
Fahrenheit
and
our
asthma
issues
are
higher
than
the
city's
average.
A
Z
My
name
is
Jeff
sandstrom
I'm,
one
of
the
board
members
of
the
ballpark
Community
Council
I,
was
on
the
board
when
we
pushed
this
down
Zone
through
I,
just
like
to
make
a
couple
of
statements
about
it.
The
purpose
of
it
was
to
maintain
the
original
core
of
the
residential
homes
in
the
neighborhood
by
Design.
We
purposely
left
off
the
perimeter
streets
for
the
down
Zone
proposal
such
as
1700
South
and
Main
Street,
leaving
those
open
to
higher
density
development.
Z
Really,
the
main
idea
was
to
protect
the
backbone
of
the
residential
homes
being
on
West
Temple
and
going
east
and
west
on
the
interior
streets
of
the
neighborhood.
We
felt
like
that
was
appropriate
size
and
scale
management
for
the
neighborhood
to
have
the
interior
still
protected
with
its
historic
residences.
Z
A
AA
Thank
you
so
much
Paul,
Svenson
I
own
four
properties
on
17th,
South,
Within,
two
blocks
on
either
side
of
this
property
and
I
was
so
excited
when
I
saw
this
on
your
agenda
because
I
think
it's
exactly
what
this
neighborhood
needs
to
do,
I
think
it's
exactly
where
this
city
needs
to
go.
Think
about
where
this
parcel
is
it's
on
West
Temple,
important
arterial
street
that
leads
straight
into
downtown
and
17th
South,
which
every
single
one
of
us
drives
to
go
to
Costco
on
target.
It's
a
very
big
street.
AA
It's
also
midway
between
two
really
high
use
track,
stops
it's
a
15
minute,
walk
either
south
or
north
five
minute
bike
ride
either
way,
and
it's
a
five
minute
walk
to
a
bus.
Stop
that
feeds
straight
up,
17
South
and
ends
up
at
the
U.
You
take
all
that
into
consideration.
AA
AA
It's
true
that
these
properties
were
down
zoned.
Is
that
a
down
Zone
that
you
would
agree
to
now,
knowing
what
we
know
about
the
housing
situation?
AA
I'm
certain
you
wouldn't
at
least
not
on
West
Temple,
Jefferson,
Street,
Major,
Street,
Richard,
Street?
Okay,
we
can
leave
those
little
single-family
houses,
maybe
that
makes
sense
to
keep
it
duplex,
but
on
West,
Temple
and
17th,
we
need
to
be
moderately
more
dense.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
AB
Sorry
first
timer
didn't
know
what
the
card
meant
so
I
just
filled
it
out.
Okay,
but
it's
cool
I
got
it
I'm,
Jesse
bazelle
I
am
a
resident
of
the
ballpark
neighborhood
I
live
in
those
CW
properties
that
we've
talked
about
a
lot
just
north
of
the
proposed
rezone
would
just
mimic
a
lot
of
what
Amy
and
Jeff
said
and
really
it
all
kind
of
boils
down
to.
It
seems
a
little
preemptive
I'm
all
for
change
growth
happiness,
but
there
are
some
real
concerns
when
it
comes
to
high
density
parking
Etc.
AB
P
N
AC
AC
We
have
I
also
served
on
the
ballpark
community
council
at
the
time
that
the
down
Zone
was
approved
and
solidified.
We
were
assured
that
that
was
part
of
a
master
plan
and
that
our
tree-lined
streets
and
yards
and
so
forth
would
be
preserved
as
as
much
as
possible.
AC
I
would
like
to
say
that
I
think
if
you
vote
on
this
at
this
time,
you're
voting
blind.
You
do
not
have
a
plan.
We
do
not
know
what
we
will
be
getting
out
of
this
situation.
I
can
tell
you
what
we've
had
in
recent
years.
We've
had
to
call
the
police
on
a
drug
ring.
AC
We've
had
to
call
the
police
on
a
crime,
organized
crime
situation
at
1734,
South,
where
they
were
stealing
from
your
garages
on
the
east
side
and
having
yard
sales
next
door
to
me
on
this
Temple
I've
been
threatened
by
residents
of
the
rental
who
were
skin
heads
and
tattooed
and
selling
drugs
that
they
didn't
want
me
walking
in
front
of
their
house.
I
am
the
neighborhood
watch
block
captain
and
I
have
encouraged
everyone
on
that
neighborhood
to
watch
that
house
very
carefully.
AC
I
also
like
to
say
that
for
the
most
part,
during
the
day,
it's
a
beautiful
Street
to
walk
up
and
down
it's
a
long,
beautiful
walk,
unlike
Jefferson
and
Major
Street
and
some
of
the
others.
There
are
very
short
walks
we're
one
of
the
last
Tree
Line
streets,
where
you
can
walk
your
dog
for
half
an
hour
and
I'd
like
to
try
and
keep
it
that
way.
It
means
a
lot
to
me.
We've
paid
off
our
house
and
stayed
there
because
we
love
it.
AC
It's
a
beautiful
place
and
the
residents
who
have
been
there
for
10
and
20
years
alongside
me
will
agree.
One
of
them
sent
me
an
email.
His
name
is
Cody.
Carver
I
forwarded
it
to
Diane.
He
is
opposed
to
this
zoning
change
as
well
as
I
am
and
I.
Don't
know
what
else
to
say:
I
just
we
have
suffered
the
loss
of
a
lot
of
trees
on
our
tree
line
Street
due
to
development.
AC
A
AD
Hello,
my
name
is
Ashley
Gomez
and
full
disclosure
I'm,
not
from
ballpark
I'm
from
the
West
Side,
the
Glendale
area
and
the
stories
that
I'm
hearing
about
ballpark
I
mean
I
really
resonate
with
that.
Just
because
we've
been
been
seeing
these
projects
going
up.
First,
the
zoning
before
the
actual
plan
of
a
project.
Now
we
don't
know
what
these
projects
are
until
they're
too
late
and
then
they're
already
passed,
and
you
say
that
they
are
mixed
income.
They
are
housing
for
everyone,
but
I
am
sorry.
AD
There
is
a
need
for
a
certain
demographic
and
a
certain
range
of
financial,
a
status
of
folks
in
this
community
that
really
do
need
housing
and
I.
Think
I
agree
with
every
everything
that
folks
in
ballpark
have
said,
and
I
would
personally
to
like
to
see
a
project
in
full
detail
before
things
to
go,
move
forward.
E
E
We
are
already
experiencing
a
high
volume
of
new
residents
in
the
area
as
the
owner
of
the
property
at
1755,
South
West,
Temple
I
am
strongly
against
any
rezoning
of
the
proposed
properties.
They
should
remain
as
single-family
homes
in
order
to
preserve
the
Integrity
of
this
neighborhood
Cody
Carver.
A
Then
that's
all
just
the
one:
okay,
seeing
that
no
one
else
wishes
to
speak.
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
on
this
item
and
bring
it
back
to
the
commission.
B
H
I
am
I
am
not
in
favor
of
this
proposal.
H
I
believe
that
it
is
not
compatible
with
the
current
Central
City
master
plan,
as
provided
that
provided
for
the
down
zoning
I
believe
that
the
down
zoning
was
a
way
that
the
community
had
of
drawing
a
Line
in
the
Sand
about
where
they
wanted
to
preserve
the
residential,
the
low-scale
residential
that
entire
Street
as
I
went
down.
It
today
is
pretty
much
all
low-scale
residential
off
of
1700
South
itself.
H
If
his
property
were
indeed
on
1700
South,
then
I
would
definitely
be
in
favor
of
rezoning,
but
at
this
time
not
even
knowing
not
not
even
knowing
what
we,
what
we
can
expect
from
this
particular
project.
I
think
it
is
not
only
premature
but
unnecessary
in
order
to
in
order
to
fulfill
the
master
plan.
I
D
Whenever
we
get
a
request
for
rezone
I
like
to
see
that
table
about,
what's
allowed
now
with
the
current
Zone
and
what
would
be
allowed
with
the
new
Zone
following
an
Amy's
Amy
talked
about
that
and
I
was
like.
Oh,
let's
figure
that
out
and
the
things
that
are
allowed
by
right
or
conditional
uses
in
the
proposed
Zone
don't
seem
to
they
don't
seem
appropriate
for
that
neighborhood
right
now,
so
I
think.
That's
that's
a
reason
why
I
would
say
the
zoning
that
that
suggested
or
requested
new
zone
is
not
appropriate
for
that.
N
D
H
A
C
H
H
It
does
not
conform
to
the
Central
City
master
plan
which
down
Zone
the
area
deliberately
in
2016..
It
is
not
compatible
with
the
neighboring
uses,
and
it
also
as
since
we
do
not
know
what's
going
to
be.
A
You
those
changes,
acceptable,
okay,
you'll
accept
the
changes.
Do
we
have
a
second
for
the
amended
motion?
I'll?
Second
Mr
Bros?
Okay.
We
have
a
second
by
commissioner
Bros,
commissioner
Ghent.
No
commissioner
Tuttle.
Yes,
commissioner
Shearer.
Yes,
commissioner
Christensen.
No
commissioner
Burroughs.
Yes,
commissioner,
Barry,
yes
and
the
chair
will
also
vote
Yes,
one
two,
three,
four,
five
yeses
and
two
no's
we'll
send
a
negative
recommendation.
D
A
A
Mr
Ghent,
no
commissioner
Tuttle.
Yes,
commissioner
Shearer.
Yes,
commissioner
Christensen.
No
commissioner
Burroughs.
S
A
Okay,
we'll
move
on
to
the
last
item,
which
is
the
thriving
in
place:
public
hearing,
there's
no
pln
numbers,
so
Angela.
A
AE
AE
My
mic
was
not
on
YouTube,
so
there
we
go
now.
You
can
hear
me
much
better
and
it's
echoey
as
everybody's
been
alluding
to
this
evening.
So.
The
plan
is
really
the
road
map
of
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
over
the
course
of
the
next
few
years
and
as
I
as
I
indicated
in
June.
The
intention
is
for
some
of
these
items
to
be
coming
back
before
the
Planning
Commission.
For
example,
the
community
benefit
policy
that
will
be
amending
up
to
five
different
sections
of
the
city
code.
AE
So
each
one
of
these
22
policies,
some
may
be
things
that
we're
already
doing
that
we're
going
to
be
refining
some
are
already
working.
How
they're
working
we'll
put
more
funding
or
more
resources
towards
it,
and
then
some
are
new
programs
and
policies
that
will
either
come
before
the
Planning,
Commission
or
they'll.
Go
before
the
city
council
for
a
resolution
for
policy
adoption
or
for
Budget
Appropriations.
AE
We've
discussed
the
housing
loss
mitigation,
but
I'm
certainly
happy
to
dive
into
that.
A
little
bit
more.
We
didn't
receive
a
lot
of
public
comment
during
the
45-day
engagement
period.
And
I
credit
that
mostly
to
the
engagement
that
happened
in
the
development
of
the
plan
we
had
over
2500
people
engage
with
the
creation
of
the
policies
within
thriving
in
place.
It's
one
of
the
biggest
initiatives
that
we've
had
within
the
city
and
I'll
get
into
the
summary
of
the
comments
here
in
a
minute,
but
we
did
a
lot
of
Outreach.
AE
During
the
45
days
we
went
to
community
fairs,
we
presented
at
Community
councils.
We
did
online
surveys,
social
media
blasts
and
we
did
receive
some
public
comment,
but
most
of
it
was
generally
in
support
of
the
plan.
As
I
mentioned.
The
two-year
action
plan
is
what
our
roadmap
is
for
the
next
two
years.
AE
Here's
a
summary
of
the
community
feedback,
so
we've
had
about
1500,
unique
visitors
to
the
website
in
May
and
June
and
29
completed
the
survey
forms
generally.
We
had
strong
support
for
the
actions
and
especially
for
more
affordable
housing
and
tenant
support.
AE
The
intention
was
knowing
that
we
were
going
to
be
replacing
our
housing
plan
growing
SLC
and
the
two
plans,
as
you've
heard
numerous
times
as
Rudy
was
here,
meant
briefing
you
on
housing
SLC.
The
two
plans
are
really
married
with
one
another.
The
engagement
that
happened
with
housing
SLC
was
really
dovetailed
with
thriving
in
play
days
and
while
thriving
in
places
in
a
housing
plan.
A
lot
of
the
policies
within
thriving
police
are
focused
on
housing.
AE
So
we
took
the
housing
plan
and
created
quantifiable
goals
within
housing,
SLC
that
tied
to
thriving
in
place,
and,
admittedly,
I.
Don't
think
that
we've
done
maybe
as
good
of
a
job
as
we
should
have
in
communicating
that
so
we've
added
some
additional
context
to
the
draft
plan
that
really
creates
that
Nexus
more
it's
challenging,
because
housing
SLC
has
been
adopted
already
and
thriving
in
places
in
the
adoption
process.
AE
The
other
thing
that
was
a
clear
that
was
clearly
Community
communicated
to
us
both
in
the
community
council
meetings
and
in
some
of
the
public
comments,
is
that
there
was
a
desire
to
see
more
publicly
owned
lands
used
to
create
affordable
housing
and
I,
followed
up
with
with
various
entities
within
the
city.
We
have
an
inventory
of
all
of
our
public
assets.
I
think
there's
a
perception
that
we
own
more
things
than
we
actually
do,
which
is
unfortunate.
AE
I
think
the
city
certainly
would
love
to
own
more
property
to
be
able
to
put
into
the
pool
of
affordable
housing.
We
are
getting
ready
to
go
to
RFP
for
several
city-owned
properties
that
will
likely
contain
housing
along
with
open
space
and
some
other
things
you've
heard
many
times
about
flea
block
and
some
of
the
other
big
properties
within
the
city.
We
certainly
are
always
looking
at
opportunities
to
be
able
to
use
our
publicly
owned
assets
for
the
public
benefit,
whether
that's,
affordable,
housing
or
open
space.
AE
The
Redevelopment
agency,
the
RDA,
also
has
that
charge
within
their
bylaws
of
looking
at
their
properties
as
well.
For
those
and
one
of
the
best
ways
that
we
can
get
affordable,
housing
within
the
city
is
certainly
when
we
can
partner
with
developers
on
a
land
deals.
AE
So
those
are
things
that
we
are
focusing
on
and
it's
an
initiative
of
the
mayor
as
well,
so
just
wanted
to
flag
that,
and
that
was
called
out
a
little
bit
in
more
detail
in
priority
3D,
again,
just
creating
more
of
that
Nexus
between
housing,
SLC
and
thriving
in
place
and
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
all
of
the
numbers
here,
although
I'm
currently
happy
to.
But
you
can
see
where
we
have
the
four
goals
that
were
within
housing,
SLC
and
down
below.
AE
AE
We
had
some
feedback
and
I
think
this
was
really
consistent
throughout
the
development
of
the
plan
is
for
more
continued
outreaching
engagement.
We
did
a
lot
of
unique
engagement
with
this
plan
and
that's
really
accredited
to
the
University
of
Utah
city
and
Metropolitan
planning
students
who
actually
won
an
award
for
the
work
that
they
did
on
thriving
in
place.
They
held
youth
workshops
and
they
really
engaged
people
within
our
community.
AE
That
often
don't
have
a
voice
and
they
engage
them
within
their
community,
and
so
we
were
able
to
get
real
life
stories
of
how
displacement
is
impacting
people
in
Salt
Lake
City,
rather
than
anecdotal
stories
that
we
hear
I.
Think
one
of
the
other
things
that
we've
heard
a
lot
is
that
the
plan
there's
so
much
there.
AE
It
feels
like
a
lot
to
bite
off
and
it
feels
very
wide
and
expansive,
and
so
we
added
a
graphic
overview
of
the
two-year
action
plan
and
the
intention
of
creating
the
two-year
action
plan
was
for
us
to
start
tackling
some
of
these
really
big
policies
within
thriving
in
place.
Looking
at
what
we
need
to
make,
what
policies
will
make
a
difference
as
quickly
as
possible
and
one
of
those
being
on
the
community
benefit
policy.
AE
You
guys
have
housing
loss
mitigation,
ordinance
reports
coming
before
you
frequently
and
I
know:
that's
always
a
challenge
for
the
Planning
Commission
for
the
planning
staff,
and
so
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
we
wanted
to
really
tackle
quickly,
so
that
we
can
mitigate
the
loss
of
any
more
residential
units
within
the
city
again.
I
just
want
to
thank
our
community
working
group.
We've
had
a
very
diverse
group
of
people,
helping
us
course
correct.
AE
Over
almost
the
past
two
years,
ranging
from
Community
Advocates
to
developers,
we
have
had
a
city
interdepartmental
working
team,
with
almost
every
single
Department
within
the
city
represented,
and
then
we've
also
had
a
policy
team
that
has
helped
really
kind
of
dig
deep
into
these
policies.
So
I
just
want
to
give
a
moment
of
gratitude
to
all
of
those.
Who've
spent
countless
hours
with
us
over
the
past
two
years
in
the
development
of
this
plan.
AE
Great
job,
thank
you,
so
I
wanted
to
just
go
into
a
few
of
the
questions
that
you
guys
asked.
AE
Us
in
June
and
I
I
believe
we
captured
everything,
but
if
I
didn't
feel
free
to
to
chime
in
so
one
of
the
Commissioners
asked
about
the
funding
in
the
mayor's
recommended
budget
and
what
those
sources
were.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
we
have
almost
25
million
dollars
that
was
passed
in
the
in
the
budget
this
year
and
that
25
million
comes
from
various
funding
sources,
including
funding
our
future.
AE
The
general
fund,
RDA
tax,
increment
financing,
our
Housing
and
Urban
Development,
annual
allocation
and
program
income
from
loan
repayments
and
just
a
quick
summary
of
what
those
dollar
amounts
are
so
a
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars
in
tenant
relocation
assistance.
This
is
going
to
be
a
pilot
program.
This
is
separate
from
the
community
benefit
policy,
but
this
would
be
I.
AE
Think
the
the
applicant
that
came
before
us
tonight
is
a
really
good
example
of
that,
where,
if
those
individuals
were
displaced
from
those
two
houses,
they
could
come
to
the
city
in
and
request
tenant
relocation,
assistance
which
it
would
include
moving
costs
and
and
a
rent
stipend.
For
a
few
months,
the
92
a
little
over
92
000
for
a
Tenant
Resource
Center,
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
is
really
going
to
be
impactful
about
thriving
in
places.
AE
It
focuses
on
tenants
in
a
really
major
way,
that
we
have
a
lot
of
barriers
at
the
state,
and
so
we've
really
worked
in
thriving
a
place
on
how
we
can
help
tenants
within
Salt
Lake
City,
knowing
that
we
have
some
preemption
issues,
so
we're
really
excited
to
launch
the
Tenant
Resource
Center
and
provide
a
landing
pad
for
people
who
are
experiencing
displacement
within
our
community.
They
can
access
resources,
they
have
almost
like
a
case
manager,
type
Advocate,
helping
them.
AE
We
haven't
developed
what
this
is
going
to
look
like
yet,
but
that's
some
of
the
things
that
we're
envisioning.
We
have
over
13
million
dollars
in
helping
tenants
become
owners.
This
is
the
shared
Equity
policy.
This
includes
the
Perpetual
housing
fund,
that's
before
the
city
council
and
an
appropriation
to
neighbor
work,
Salt
Lake
and
then
there's
also
just
a
general
appropriation
that
will
go
to
Shared
Equity
that
hasn't
been
allocated
to
a
specific
project.
Yet.
F
AE
F
AE
Yeah
I
haven't
been
involved
at
a
deep
level
on
the
negotiations
with
the
Perpetual
housing
fund.
That's
an
RDA
project,
but
I'm
certainly
happy
to
look
into
that
and
see
if,
if
they've
identified,
what
that
process
would
look
like
and
I
can
get
back
to
you
on
that
we
have
almost
nine
million
dollars
for
acquiring
and
rehab
and
Rehab
unsubsidized
housing.
AE
This
is
work
that
the
RDA
already
does,
where
they
purchase
different
buildings
and
put
them
out
through
their
nofa
for
developers
to
do
adaptive,
reuse
or
redevelop,
and
then
we
have
about
2.6
million
for
making
adus
easier
and
less
expensive
the
rdas
working
on
this
project.
That
will
consist
of
going
out
to
bid
for
a
consultant
to
determine
what
an
ad
program
could
look
like
within
the
city.
AE
The
work
that
the
Planning
Commission
and
city
council
have
done
earlier
this
year
on
changing
the
Adu
standards
have
really
helped
fuel
the
funding
request
here
and
make
remove
some
of
those
zoning
barriers
that
we
see.
This
also
provides
for
two
ftes
within
code
enforcement
to
help
with
short-term
rentals,
which
I
know
was
a
concern
that
commissioner
Burroughs
raised
and
I'll
address
your
other
concerns
in
a
second.
So
all
of
that
is
really
great
news
that
we
already
have
some
of
this
money
flowing
to
these
policies.
AE
Commissioner
Gantt,
you
asked
about
the
right
to
shelter
policy
in
New,
York
and
I,
reached
out
to
Andrew
Johnson
Andrew
Johnston
in
the
mayor's
office,
who's
the
mayor
of
his
homeless
policy
advisor,
and
he
said
that
New
York
is
the
only
city
which
he
is
aware
that
has
a
right
to
shelter,
ordinance
that
was
enacted
in
about
the
1970s
we
in
Salt
Lake
and
Salt
Lake
County
and
in
Utah
use
local
motels
as
our
de
facto
shelter
for
for
overflow
needs.
AE
That's
become
increasingly
challenging
since
covid,
because
a
lot
of
the
hotels
have
gone
out
of
business
or
have
been
sold,
and
so
we're
struggling
to
be
able
to
find
as
many
hotel
vouchers
as
we
used
to
be
able
to
have,
and
then
we
also
have
funding
constraints
at
the
state
level
as
well.
On
that
so
more
to
come.
There
I
think
it's
something
worth
looking
into,
but
that
was
the
feedback
that
I
received
from
Andrew.
AE
We
had
another
comment
on
home
ownership
and
that
we
wanted
to
make
sure
to
promote
that.
That
is
a
priority
of
the
RDA
board,
the
mayor
and
it's
also
a
priority
of
the
the
legislature.
A
lot
of
the
policies
that
we're
working
on
right
now
are
really
focused
at
the
state
level
on
providing
more
home
ownership
opportunities.
AE
So
we're
also
working
on
having
we've
been
having
conversations
on
restructuring
that
50
million
dollars
that
President
Adams
was
able
to
get
appropriated
this
year
so
that
we
can
use
that
money
within
Salt,
Lake,
City,
and
so
we've
been
having
those
conversations
to
see
if
there's
ways
that
we
can
look
at
using
a
community
land
trust
or
if
we
can,
you
know
somehow
partner,
to
be
able
to
utilize
our
funds
to
back
some
of
that
backfill
some
of
that
money,
so
that
people
within
Salt
Lake
City
can
utilize
those
funds
we
had.
AE
Commissioner,
oh
okay,
I'm.
Sorry,
there
was
another
question
on
city-owned
properties
which
I
answered.
There
was
I,
appreciate
your
email
on
the
state
code,
change
and
I
apologize.
I.
Think
I
misunderstood
your
question
last
time,
so
we
can
use
the
website
language
for
internal
Express
accessory
dwelling
units.
AE
It
can't
be
the
sole
source
of
evidence,
but
we
can
use
it.
Our
code
enforcement
has
about
75
cases
a
year
of
short-term
rentals
and
their
most
and
they're
all
complaint
driven.
So
we
haven't
been
proactively
just
because
of
Staffing
and
bandwidth
issues.
AE
But
if
you
go
on
any
sort
of
online
website,
you
can
see
it's
much
higher
than
that
and
so
I
think
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
policy
conversation
continuing
to
happen
around
short-term,
rentals
and
I
believe
and
I
could
be
incorrect
that
you
said
you
wanted
to
participate
in.
That
is
that
correct?
AE
I
thought
so
I
remember
in
a
meeting.
I
thought
it
was.
Maybe
you
that
mentioned
that
you
would
like
to
to
weigh
in
on
that
policy.
So
and
then,
commissioner,
Scheer
I,
hope
I
address
your
comments
on
the
quantitative
components
of
thriving
in
place
and
with
that
I
believe
that
I've.
AE
Those
are
all
the
questions
that
I
had
from
last
meeting.
If
there
are
other
questions,
I'm
happy
to
entertain
those
for
you.
AE
C
I
asked
the
question
mainly
because
of
the
discussion
that's
been
taking
place
about
the
schools
that
Salt
Lake
City
School
District
is
going
to
be
closing,
probably
and
should
not
those
properties
be
prime
targets
for
the
city
to
acquire
because
they
are
in
primarily
residential
neighborhoods.
I
know.
Newman
school,
which
is
near
me,
is
totally
within
within
a
city
block.
AE
I
AE
I
I
guess
you
may
not
know
the
answer
to
this,
then.
Is
the
RDA
looking
at
acquiring
property
throughout
the
city,
because
if
they're,
if
they
are,
then
they
lose
not
only
the
tax
increment
collection,
but
they
I
don't
know,
maybe
they
don't
lose
it,
but
one
of
their
key
drivers
is
then
negotiating
loan
terms
that
are
favorable
to
more
affordability,
yeah
I,
don't
know
if
they're
restricted
to
that
in
a
Zone,
an
active
Zone
either
so
I'm
I,
guess
I'm.
Just
questioning
if
the
RDA
is
a
sole
driver
for
property
acquisition.
AE
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
I'm,
not
in
the
RDA
they're
completely
separate
entity
within
the
city,
so
I'm
happy
to
follow
up
with
Danny
Walls
the
RDA
director
and
ask
that
question.
I,
don't
I
know
we
do
some
property
acquisition
in
other
departments
within
the
city.
But
it's
not
my
area
of
expertise,
so
I
feel
like
I'd,
be
misspeaking,
but.
I
I'm
happy
if
I
didn't
expect
you
to
have
those
answers,
but
you
know
that
question
brought
up
the
the
notion
if
they're
driving
it
is
that
the
most
appropriate
entity
within
thriving
in
place
SLC
to
kind
of
default
to
yeah,
because
you
know
I
think
also
listed
in
here-
is-
is
having
housing
throughout
the
city
and
not
concentrated,
and
if
they're
limited
to
active
zones,
then
they're
very
concentrated
yeah.
AE
So
I
do
know
like
our
hearts
and
our
housing
stability
division,
for
example,
owns
properties
that
they
put
into
the
Community
Land
Trust.
We
have
some
properties
within
community
and
neighborhoods
within
the
admin
team
that
are
within
our
portfolio,
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
believe
that
the
intention
is
for
them
to
just
be
in
Project
areas,
but
for
us
really
to
look
at
yeah.
I
No
I
think
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
you're
you're
def.
Your
intent
is
definitely
broader
and
I.
Don't
know
if
there
are
restrictions.
If
the
RDA
is
the
primary
driver
for
land
acquisition
for
housing.
Is
that
the
the
best
Partnership,
if
they're
Limited
in
certain
ways
and
and
Danny
Wells,
might
say
now
we're
not
limited
at
all,
so
that.
AE
At
and
I
do
know
that
the
housing
set
aside
that
is
required
through
state
code
I,
believe
it
well.
It's
10
in
state
code,
but
I,
believe
cities
just
dependent
upon
how
they
set
up
the
project
area
might
be
higher
and
that
housing
set
aside
can
be
used
throughout
the
entire
city.
So
it
doesn't
have
to
be
used
within
a
project
area.
AE
So
that's
how
a
lot
of
the
like
you
may
have
been
hearing
about
some
of
the
housing
initiatives
on
the
west
side
that
the
RDA
is
working
on
and
that's
specifically
around
the
Inland
Port
they're
able
to
use
housing
money
throughout
the
entire
city
and
even
able
to
focus
it
in
certain
areas
of
the
city
like
mitigating
some
of
the
impacts
from
the
Inland
port.
F
I
just
want
to
follow
up
on
this
idea
of
what
property
the
city
acquires
I
love
the
idea
of
looking
at
the
schools,
courtesy
to
look
hard
at
all
property
it
owns
in
every
District,
including
the
golf
courses
we
just
heard
from
ballpark
about
how
little
green
space
they
have
and
they
have
an
you
know
to
the
extent
we
have
affordable
housing,
it's
being
concentrated
there
and
I.
Just
we
have
a
lot
of
high
opportunity
neighborhoods
that
I,
don't
think,
are
really
doing
their
part
in
terms
of
meeting
our
affordability
goals.
F
AE
AE
Anything
else
for
me
happy
to
entertain
any
other
questions.
I'll
get
the
answers
to
a
few
of
these
things.
I
didn't
know:
I
apologize,
I,
don't
want
to
speak
for
the
RDA
and
misrepresent
what
their,
what
their
goals
are.
AE
Though,
thank
you
with
that
I
would
recommend.
Apollo
I
would
ask
for
a
positive
recommendation
from
the
Planning
Commission
this
evening
and
again
offer
gratitude
to
you
or
all
the
time
that
you've
given
us
on
your
agendas
over
the
past
two
years.
I
know
this
isn't
a
initiative,
that's
incredibly
important
to
the
mayor.
It
was
something
she
took
on
right
when
she
first
took
office,
and
it's
also
something
that's
important
to
the
council.
So
we
appreciate
your
consideration
over
the
past
two
years.
You've
been
so
gracious
with
your
time
with
us.
A
You
just
hang
right
there.
While
we
do
the
public
hearing,
then
you
can
answer
some
more
questions,
probably
I'm,
going
to
open
the
public
hearing
on
this
item.
The
first
card
I
have
is
Alicia
Seeley,
so
step
up
to
the
microphone
state.
Your
name
for
the
record
and
you'll
have
two
minutes.
AF
My
name
is
Alicia
Seeley
I'm,
really
sad
that
I
missed
the
public
comment
period
for
this
plan,
but
I
was
really
really
excited
about
it.
I
was
excited
to
read
the
thriving
in
place.
Draft
of
the
plan
and
I'm
really
heavily
in
support
of
a
lot
of
the
recommendations
that
are
set
forth.
AF
I
just
have
a
couple
of
if
I
could
like
add
a
couple
of
things.
I
would
I
do
have
a
couple
of
concerns
that
some
of
these
recommendations
may
not
be
enough
to
adequately
address
some
of
this
gentrification
displacement
and
the
creation
of
more
affordable
housing.
So
I
only
have
time
to
address
one
in
two
minutes,
but
here
it
goes.
AF
The
thriving
in
place
plan
emphasizes
the
missing
middle
housing
problem
and
expresses
goals
to
provide
a
wider
variety
of
housing
typologies,
but
I
feel
that
there's
some
gaps
that
the
plan
does
not
address
to
make
this
happen.
One
of
these
is
zoning
regulations,
specifically
large
minimum
lot,
size
requirements
and
a
lot
of
residential
zones
throughout
the
city.
U
My
name
is
Lynn
Schwartz,
as
I
have
said
in
previous
comments
to
the
Planning
Commission
via
the
Sugarhouse
Community
Council
common
procedure.
This
is
an
excellent
plan
for
both
the
present
and
the
future
and
should
be
adopted
without
delay.
We
need
to
have
a
city
where
people
of
diverse
economic
circumstances
can
live
work
and,
yes,
Thrive.
Unfortunately,
we
are
rapidly
heading
down
a
path
where
this
is
becoming
impossible.
The
thriving
implant
in
place
plan,
if
fully
implemented,
would
make
such
diversity
a
reality.
U
The
question
remains
as
to
how
much
and
how
soon
it
can
be
done.
This
plan
would
require
a
lot
of
money.
Much
more
than
Salt,
Lake,
City
or
County
can
provide.
The
state
must
be
brought
in
and
soon
since
this
means
a
longer
process.
What
can
be
done
now?
Some
help
for
tenants
can
be
implemented.
Now,
a
major
increase
in
funding
for
keeping
tenants
from
being
evicted
by
using
one-time
grants
can
be
done
now.
U
T
I
think
Angela's
done
an
amazing
job
with
this
whole
thing
and
every
time
I
try
to
dig
into
it
to
understand
it.
My
head
starts
spinning.
After
about
10
pages,
so
I
can't
say,
I've
read
every
single
section
and
I
love
the
placement.
That
sort
of
helps
me
get
focused.
One
thing
Nick
said
today
was
there's
no
there's
actually
nothing
in
writing.
That
says
the
process
for
making
a
master
plan
change
for
the
process
for
making
zoning
changes
and
we're
actually
going
to
get
some
of
those
things
written
down.
T
This
is
this
is
going
to
expand
housing
for
tenants,
support
and
affordable
housing
that
25
million
is
peanuts.
You've
heard
me
say
before
it
takes
200
or
300
000
just
to
build
one
apartment
unit
in
this
town.
T
So
that's
what
50
houses
or
50
people-
it's
not
very
much,
but
there's
some
other
good
things
that
I
really
like
the
demolition
permit
fee,
which
is
probably
I'll,
guess
300
per
permit.
T
It's
going
to
go
up,
Sky
High.
That
money
ought
to
all
go
into
the
housing
fund
and
I
feel
like
the
one
best
thing
about
this.
Is
that,
finally,
we're
focused
on
the
prize
rather
than
having
72
different
this
and
that's
working
on
stuff,
but
it's
not
coordinated
I!
Think
assuming
we
keep
our
eye
on
the
prize,
we
might
get
something
done
and
I'm
going
to
advise
that
you
don't
get
caught
up
in
what
I
call
the
transmittal,
cue
and
I.
T
A
Okay,
seeing
no
one
we'll
check
for
emails.
E
There
are
two
emails
that
were
received
earlier
today
and
they
were
provided
to
you
in
your
Dropbox
files.
One
is
from
Cindy
Cromer.
The
other
is
from
Bill
Tibbetts
Bill's
email,
references
and
op-ed
that
he
wrote
that
was
featured
in
the
Deseret
News
today,
so,
but
rather
than
reading
through
all
those
I
just
want
to
mention
that
they
were
there
and
they
were
provided
to
you
and
will
be
part
of
the
record.
Thank.
J
I
I
Question
for
the
acting
director,
because
I
feel,
like
the
zoning
part
needs
to
be,
is
can't
be
like
they
can't
rezone
that
stuff
like
that,
has
to
be
driven
from
planning
correct.
It
could
be
like
listed
in
thriving
so
like
of
like
you
should
look
at
this,
but
it
can't
they
can't
drive
that
particular
change.
E
F
As
I
understood
it
only
as
part
of
the
inclusionary
zoning
not
well
I.
Believe,
commissioner
Barry,
that
we
would
be
free
to
add,
assuming
we
want
to
recommend
approval
of
the
plan,
can
I
just
finish.
The
I
think
we
could
suggest
that
as
part
of
it
Council
and
the
mayor
revisit
our
minimum
lot
sizes
as
examination
I,
believe
that
would
be
within
the
scope
of
our
record.
It's
only
recommendation
anyway.
F
I
H
Should
say
that
the
affordable
housing,
what
we
used
to
call
that
affordable
housing
overlay
now
it's
called
affordable
housing,
I
can't
remember,
which
has
not
been
considered
by
city
council
yet,
but
it's
on
their
agenda
in
the
pipeline
of
Doom,
so
does
include
exceptions
to
lot
sizes
if
you
include
affordable
housing
in
your
project.
So
since
what
we're
talking
about
is
affordive
housing,
I
think
that
that
at
least
partially
addresses
some
of
those
concerns.
AE
Madam,
chair
could
I
have
a
moment
of
privilege.
Sure
I
just
wanted
to
say,
as
she
mentioned,
that
I
wanted
to
go
back
and
look
up
that
specific
strategy
and
I
think
her
comment
is
really
valid,
that
we
shouldn't
just
be
looking
at
one
zoning
District.
The
plan
calls
out
RMF
38
the
zone,
changes
that
you
guys
adjust
the
Planning,
Commission
and
city
council,
I.
Guess
I,
don't
remember
for
sure.
If
the
city
council
passed
RMF,
30
I
know
you
guys
have
they
did
okay.
AE
Thank
you
as
an
example
of
an
O
of
a
type
of
zoning
change
that
we've
done,
that
we
could
do
in
other
zones
throughout
the
city
and
an
affordable,
affordable
housing.
Incentives
is
another
thing,
that's
mentioned
several
times
throughout
thriving
in
place
and
is
also
its
own
specific
strategy
and,
as
commissioner
Shear
alluded
to,
that
would
also
reduce
minimum
lot
sizes
setbacks
and
allow
for
increased
height
and
density
for
exchange
for
affordable
housing.
H
Commissioner,
can
I
even
make
a
motion?
Yes,
okay,
good,
because
this
is
the
point
of
time
where
we
get
funny
and
that's
not
good
so,
based
on
the
information
presented
and
discuss,
and
the
discussion
in
the
public
hearing,
I
moved
at
the
commission
recommend
that
the
city
council
adopt
thriving
in
and
thriving
in
place
as
the
city's
anti-gentrification
strategy
and
mitigation
plan
and
as
an
addendum
to
housing.
Slc
I'll.
Second,
that
okay.
A
A
Share
yes,
commissioner
Tuttle.
Yes,
commissioner,
Ghent,
yes
and
the
tour
will
also
vote
Yes.
You
get
a
unanimous
recommendation
for
approval.
Thank.