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From YouTube: SJAA Imaging 9-21-2021 Rich Ozer, Star Parties
Description
Rich Ozer, the Director of the Golden State Star Party (GSSP) will discuss the GSSP and the future of star parties.
A
Welcome
to
the
september
sjaa
imaging
sig
meeting
and
tonight
we
got
rich
ozer
director
of
the
gssp
and
rich
you're,
going
to
tell
us
about
the
future
of
star
parties.
B
I
appreciate
you
inviting
me
and
first
of
all,
I
I
a
big
fan
of
sjaa.
B
I
always
have
been
it's
just
a
little
bit
too
far
for
me
to
be
a
member
of
sjaa,
so
I'm
I'm
up
here
in
oakland
and
so
I'm
very
active
with
the
east
bay
astronomical
society
in
the
mount
diablo
astronomical
society.
B
I'm
currently
president
of
the
east
bay,
astronomical
society
and
we're
you
know
in
a
long
term,
very
long
term,
almost
100
years
now,
a
partnership
with
the
chapeau
space
and
science
center.
Basically,
our
job
is
to
keep
them
on
the
straight
and
narrow
on
the
astronomy
mission
and
their
job
is
to
put
up
with
us
and
give
us
space
to
have
our
meetings
and
and
access
to
the
facility
and
somehow
this
dysfunctional
family
continues
to
work
after
after
10
decades,
and
I
got
to
give
a
shameless
plug.
B
The
the
my
background
is
the
36
inch
research
reflector
at
the
chabot
basin
science
center
and
every
saturday
night
gerald
mckeegan,
and
I
do
a
live
astrophotography
program
from
nine
to
ten
o'clock
using
this
telescope.
B
Will
I'll
do
that
I'll?
Do
that
and
you
could
you
could
pass
it
along?
We
have
a
lot
of
fun.
We
you
know
we
don't
take
ourselves
too
seriously
and
we
have
a
regular
following
and
it's
kept
me
sane
for
the
last
two
years.
We've
been
doing
it
every
saturday
night
and
I
haven't
missed
a
single
saturday
when
the
weather's
bad.
We
find
something
else
to
talk
about
and
we
have
fun
anyway.
So
anyway,
that's
that's
my
shameless
plug
for
the
astronomy
stuff
in
real
life.
I
have
an
I.t
company.
B
So
I
I
do
I
t
during
the
day
and
I'm
I
am
an
astrophotographer
these
days
I
was
a
visual
astronomer
only
for
a
long
long
time
and
got
into
the
astrophotography
part
of
the
hobby
and
found
it
very
engaging.
B
I
enjoy
automating,
telescopes
and
automating
observatories.
I
use
a
c11
as
my
primary
instrument
on
a
ancient
cge
mount
that's
been
hypertuned.
I
control
the
whole
thing
with
my
computer,
of
course,
ccd
camera
monochrome
ccd
with
filter
wheel
and
have
fun
and
try
to
get
my
plate
solving
to
work.
So
I
could
do
multiple
night
exposures.
B
So
that's
that's
where
I'm
at
in
the
hobby.
These
days,
hai
asked
me
to
talk
about
star
parties,
and
my
first
reaction
was
a
a
deep
depression
when
he
asked
me
to
do
that-
and
I
was
thinking-
oh
my
god,
how
am
I
going
to
talk
about
star
parties?
B
Star
party
events,
but
I
kind
of
feel
like
everybody's
attitude,
is
changing
and
including
my
own
and
maybe
there's
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel
for
those
who
have
made
responsible
decisions
and
we're
going
to
have
to
sit
down
and
make
decisions
about
gssp
once
again
so
like,
like
I
mentioned,
I
am
the
director
of
the
golden
state
star
party,
I'm
also
an
advisor
to
the
oregon
star
party.
B
Okay,
very
good.
Let
me
click
here
all
right,
well,
gssp
from
lassen
park
to
well
west
of
aden
instead
of
east
of
eden,
and
my
presentation
is
called
anatomy
of
a
star
party
and
I
actually
put
this
presentation
together
years
ago
and
I've
updated
it
somewhat.
B
This
was
put
together
back
when
a
lot
of
groups
around
the
country
were
vying
to
become
the
biggest
and
best
star
party
in
the
united
states
and
the
whole
notion
of
these
large
star
parties
was
fairly
new
and
I
thought
it
would
be
fun
to
talk
about
the
challenges
of
organizing
these
things
and
where
the
golden
state
star
party
came
from
and
I'll
tell
you.
B
Sjaa
plays
a
big
role
in
the
history
of
this
event,
and
I
can't
minimize
that
at
all
it's
a
really
fundamental
role,
but
we
have.
B
A
D
Tyler,
yes,
it's
actually
I've
been
meaning
to
try
to
get
to
the
golden
state
star
party
for
several
years
now-
and
you
know,
work
has
always
gotten
in
the
way,
but
I'll
be
retiring
early
next
year
and
look
forward
to
joining
folks.
Once
the
star
party
restores
all.
B
Right
well
we'll
talk
about
that
and
I'm
going
to
want
to
hear
people's
input,
because
this
is
not
only
a
catharsis
for
me
to
talk
about
this
again,
but
it's
also
a
focus
group.
You
just
guys
just
don't
know
it
yet
so
anyway,
the
first
star
party,
where
did
it
come
from?
So
I
do
a
picture
of
stonehenge
there.
B
I
guess
that
qualifies,
although
they
probably
were
taking
it
a
lot
more
seriously
than
we
do
and
but
they
probably
probably
could
have
used
some
of
the
insurance
we
carry
for
the
event.
B
Moving
those
heavy
stones
around
seems
a
little
dangerous
to
me,
but
the
guy
who
really
gave
us
the
star
party,
also
gave
us
the
tea
party,
so
king
george
in
england
used
to
hold
star
party
events,
and
he
was
very
interested
in
astronomy
and
mathematics
and
he
used
to
have
people
hang
lanterns
where
the
stars
would
be
if
it
was
a
cloudy
night
in
the
correct
patterns
that
you
would
see
in
the
sky,
and
so
he
was
kind
of
into
it.
B
B
What
about
the
oldest
american
star
party?
Well,
that
has
to
go
to
the
springfield
telescope
makers.
Has
anybody
been
to
stellophane,
I'm
curious
other
than
myself?
Okay?
Well,
cellophane
is
a
remarkable
event
and
fortunately
it
still
happens
every
year.
It
didn't
it
did
not
happen
in
2020,
but
they
did
hold
it
this
year.
B
I
believe-
and
it
came
out
of
the
springfield
telescope
makers
and
it
started
as
a
telescope
making
event
and
then
grew
into
a
much
larger
event
with
astronomical
observing
and
vendors
and
speakers,
and
it's
kind
of
was
the
the
muse
for
rtmc
rtmc
decided
to
be
the
west
coast
version
of
the
of
the
stellophane
event.
B
I
was
lucky
to
go
to
cellophane
once
and
it's
in
a
really
beautiful
part
of
vermont.
I
had
never
been
to
vermont
before,
and
I
was
just
amazed
at
how
beautiful
vermont
is
in
the
summertime.
It's
obviously
a
lot
easier
to
get
around
than
in
the
winter
time,
but
I
took
the
train
up
from
new
york
and
and
stayed
a
few
miles
away
from
springfield
and
then
rented
a
car
to
get
to
the
event.
I
highly
recommend
it
if
you
ever
have
a
chance.
B
It's
got
some
really
great
historical
instruments
and
it's
a
pretty
good
star
party,
even
though
their
skies
are
mediocre
right
and
there's
some
pictures
of
cellophane
all
the
way
back
in
1926,
and
they
also
had
a
formal
dress
code.
I
could
see
yeah
shirt
and
tie.
B
B
B
All
those
things
it
used
to
be
the
main
way
that
observers
in
the
bay
area
would
stay
in
touch
with
one
another
declare
their
intent
to
go
to
some
site
some
dark
site
and
attract
other
people
to
show
up
with
them,
and
I
met
a
lot
of
interesting
people
on
this
list
over
the
years
and
many
of
whom
went
on
to
help
organize
some
of
the
events.
I'm
going
to
talk
about.
B
So
you
can
go
to
their
website
observers.org.
If
you
haven't
been
to
observers.org,
you
should
check
it
out,
and
the
main
reason
to
check
it
out
is
to
learn
about
some
of
the
great
observing
sites
ringing.
The
metropolitan
bay
area
that
are
only
a
couple
hours
away
and
worth
visiting.
B
Some
of
you
may
remember
crazy,
ed
optical
and
editor
beck
was
the
founder
of
crazy,
ed
john
kuklowitz
myself
mark
wagner,
and
this
was
a
quote
from
mark
wagner.
There
are
only
a
handful
that
are
original,
tacos
left
two
departed
for
distant
skies,
one
just
departed
and
four
of
us
are
left
here,
holding
the
bag,
and
that
was
in
2002.
B
But
of
course,
tac
20
years
later
still
exists,
not
quite
the
same
as
it
used
to
be
not
quite
the
same
level
of
participation,
but
still
holds
all
these
permits
for
great
observing
sites
and
allows
the
community
at
large
to
use
them
without
a
lot
of
red
tape.
B
So
without
the
sights
tac
would
be
nothing,
and
these
are
some
that
were
that
I'm
listing
montebello
state
preserve.
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
been
there
yeah,
okay,
so
rich
has
been
there
and
I
can't
see
hands
from
the
others.
Montebello
is
above
palo
alto
way
up
near
skyline.
Practically
it
gets
above
the
fog.
B
If
you're,
you
know,
if
you
miss
the
summer
and
you
want
to
see
summer
stuff
in
the
fall,
go
to
montevello
and
you'll
still
see
them
for
a
while
dinosaur
point
is
a
great
spot
for
fall,
observing
and
in
the
in
the
summer.
It's
just
too
windy.
So
nobody
goes
there.
That's
at
the
san
luis
reservoir
and
there
are
permit
holders
for
that
and
once
a
month
people
tend
to
gather
down
there.
Fremont
peak,
I'm
sure,
you've
all
heard
about
fremont
peak
observatory,
fremont
peak
observatory
association.
B
B
I'm
sure
you
all
know
who
rojiilio
bernal
andrea
is
one
of
our
favorite
astrophotographers
from
the
bay
area
and
that's
where
hai
and
and
myself
ran
into
one
another.
He
lost
his
wife
recently
very
sad
event
and
we
were
at
her
memorial
and
and
that's
how
we
reconnected,
but
that's
a
beautiful
shot
of
montebello
by
rogelio
and
the
lower
shot
kind
of
shows
you
the
size
of
the
parking
lot,
and
you
know
what
what
the
site
you
know
looks
like
during
the
day.
B
This
is
what
lake
sonoma
looks
like
lake
sonoma
is
of
all
of
the
sites.
It's
probably
the
darkest,
because
it's
it's
two
hours
north
of
of
oakland
roughly
and
there's
not
any
major
light
domes
near
there.
Santa
rosa
healsburg
would
be
the
nearest
light
domes.
So
a
lot
of
the
very
serious
deep
sky
observers
go
there.
Steve
gottlieb
is
a
regular
there.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
know
him
and
a
lot
of
other
notable
visual
observers
show
up
there.
I
have
not,
actually
I've
never
been
there.
B
I
just
know
about
it.
I've
been
meaning
to
go
up
there
and
I've
never
had
the
opportunity
really
to
drag
my
gear
up
there.
A
You
know
rich
a
lot
of
yeah
well
in
sjaa,
go
south!
I
guess
yes
oakland!
So,
like
you
know,
pinnacles.
B
Yes,
pinnacles
pinnacles,
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
about
the
pinnacles
on
the
tax
site,
people
you
know
making
arrangements
to
use
the
pinnacles
and
tent
to
observe
there.
That's
a
great
spot.
I've
only
been
there
a
couple
of
times,
but
I
love
it.
B
It's
a
really
interesting
place
to
observe
so,
and
you
know,
as
you
all
know,
aperture
fever
is
proportional
to
dark
sky
fever
and
the
there's
always
just
been
a
desire
to
try
to
create
some
way
for
those
of
us
who
are,
you
know,
really
invested
in
the
hobby
to
take
advantage
of
dark
skies.
B
So
you
know
what
is
a
dark
sky
and
you
know
I'm
sure,
you've
all
seen
these
bortle
scales
and
with
bortles
portal
scale
of
of
one
being,
of
course,
the
best
gig
and
shine
visible,
zodiacal
light
is
annoyingly.
Bright,
rising
milky
way
confuses
some
into
thinking,
it's
dawn,
limiting
magnitude
7.6
to
8.0,
for
people
with
exceptional
vision,
right,
that's
the
holy
grail
and
in
the
other
end
of
the
spectrum
entire
sky
is
grayish
or
brighter.
Familiar
constellations
are
missing.
Stars
fainter
constellations
are
absent.
B
B
So
these
types
of
maps,
I
thought,
we've
found
very
useful
for
finding
prospective
sites
for
events
right,
and
so
you
know,
I've
got
to
point
out
that
whoops,
I
meant
to
go
back
here,
got
to
point
out
that
chabot
is
in
a
pretty
terrible
location.
It's
right
there
right
on
the
border
of
the
red
and
the
white
in
oakland.
B
B
B
Delval
reservoir.
Has
anybody
been
there
all
right?
That's
the
tri-valley!
Okay
rich
has
been
there.
It
looks
like
you've
gotten
around
rich
to
all
these
various
sites.
It's
you
know
you're.
Like
me,
it's
like.
I
wonder
if
that's
any
good
I'll
go
there
and
see
if
it's
any
good,
the
tri-valley
star
gazers
in
livermore,
they
have
two
very
nice
sites.
B
One
is
the
dell
val
site
which
is
on
this
map
and
it's
near
delval
reservoir.
It
used
to
also
be
a
tax
site,
and
I
used
to
be
the
permit
organizer
for
that
location.
It
was
really
nice.
For
me,
it
was
only
about
40
minutes
away
and
it
was
also
one
of
the
few
locations
in
the
bay
area
where
you
could
reliably
see
omega
centauri
and
there
was
actually
at
the
right
time
of
the
year.
B
There
was
a
notch
in
the
mountains
and
you
would
just
have
to
point
your
scope
at
the
bottom
of
that
notch
and
didn't
even
have
to
look
very
hard
and
there
it
was
so
that
was
always
fun
about
the
delval
site,
but
they
also
have
a
much
darker
site,
further
south
behind
mount
hamilton
and
that's
that's
even
a
better
location.
It's
well
into
the
yellow
or
green
area.
There.
B
B
B
Cellophane's
terrible
right.
I
mean
it's
not
terrible,
but
it's
not
great
for
a
big
star
party.
It's
it's
pretty
pretty
bright,
but
that's
true
about
the
whole
east
coast.
You
know
it's
amazing
when
you
look
at
the
map
of
the
united
states
at
night
and
rather
the
the
lights
of
the
united
states
at
night,
and
you
see
that
map
the
east
coast
is
so
densely
lit
compared
to
the
western
united
states.
So,
even
though,
even
though
they're
out
in
rural
vermont,
it's
still
really
bright.
B
So
what
makes
a
good
star
party
well,
it
needs
to
be
a
day's
drive
or
less
we're,
not
talking
hours.
It's
really
a
day,
I'm
willing
to
go
longer
than
that.
I've
done
it.
You
know
I've
done.
I
guess
the
longest
I've
gone
for
a
star
party
has
been
a
two-day
affair
and
that's
not
counting
cellophane,
because
obviously
I
had
to
fly
across
the
country
for
that.
So
that's
that
was
atypical,
but
two-day
affair
is
is
okay
by
me.
B
It
needs
to
be
a
large
enough
space
to
accommodate
many
people,
and
you
have
no
idea
how
difficult
that
is.
We
have
poured
over
maps
to
find
places.
B
Like
the
one
that's
held
out
in
blackrock
desert,
where
you
have
to
have
you
know
trucks
of
material
brought
in
and
and
lots
of
logistics
you
wanted
to
be,
you
know
you
wanted
to
be
reasonably
easy
to
do
so
you
could
actually
enjoy
doing
the
star
party
and
still
be
able
to
organize
something
that
is
fun
and
comfortable
for
people,
and
there
are
remarkably
few
locations
in
this
huge
state
of
hours
that
fit
the
bill.
B
B
It
got
moved
to
september,
which
caused
even
fewer
people
to
show
up,
and
if
we
had
held
it
one
more
year,
covett
would
have
killed
it
for
good,
and
so
we
were
able
to
gracefully
exit
with
some
money
in
the
bank,
and
you
know,
donate
the
rest
of
the
balance
to
the
riverside,
astronomical
society
and
say
hey.
It
was
a
fun
ride.
You
know
from
the
70s
onward,
but
you
can
see
that
it's
not
a
bad
location.
B
It
was
it's
in
the
green
zone,
slightly
better
than
cellophane
and
rtmc
was
in
big
bear
in
big
bear
lake.
So
what
made
that
a
doable
star
party
was
that
it
was
at
a
place
called
camp
oaks,
which
is
a
giant
boy
scout
camp
and
the
excuse
me
it
was
the
ymca
camp
and
the
the
facilities
were
fantastic.
B
There
was
a
huge
meeting
hall
for
lectures.
There
was
a
full
kitchen
with
cooks
to
cook
meals.
There
were
indoor
cabins
for
people
who
wanted
to
pay
to
sleep
indoors.
There
was
plenty
of
room
for
camping
and
there
was
not
that
many
trees.
So
every
every
you
know,
20
feet
was
an
area
where
you
could
set
up
telescopes
right
and
there
was
a
big
observing
field.
There
was
an
observatory.
B
B
B
But
it's
pretty
darn
dark
in
glacier
point
and
I
enjoy
going
there
very
much
texas
star
party
is
darker
than
glacier
point,
believe
it
or
not,
even
though
it's
got
those
light
domes
nearby,
one
of
which
is
from
the
prison,
the
it's
on
the
boundary
of
the
absolute
darkest
skies
possible.
B
Oregon
star
party
dark:
that's
out,
that's
in
middle
of
oregon
along
the
in
the
john
day
area.
B
I
forget
the
name
of
the
oh
ochoco
mountains,
that's
where
it
is,
and
very
dark,
very
dark
sky
event,
lassen
national
park
and
we'll
get
back
to
lassen
in
a
minute,
so
the
lassen
star
party
started
in
1994
and
went
through
2001
and
it
was
started
by
a
group
of
people
in
the
sjaa,
along
with
a
group
of
who
were
also
members
of
tac
and
brought
along
a
lot
of
tac
members,
and
this
is
a
really
interesting
star
party
people
would
camp
at
summit
lakes
and
summit
lakes.
B
You
could
go
down
to
what
was
called
the
devastated
area
here,
which
was
downhill
from
summit
lakes.
You
could
go
to
the
big
parking
lot
right,
underneath
lassen
peak,
which
was
right
here
or
you
could
go
to
what
was
called
bumpus
hell
and
bumpus
hell.
Is
this
really
neat
place
with
hot
springs
and
there's
a
great
hike
from
there?
That
takes
you
to
the
alaskan
hot
volcanic
hot
springs
and
that
was
the
highest
elevation?
B
Was
lassen
peak
and
bump
as
hell,
and
what
you
would
do
is
you'd
leave
summit
lakes
before
sunset
and
you'd
drive
up
set
up.
Your
telescope
spend
the
night
there
and
then
drive
back
to
your
campsite.
You
couldn't
stay
set
up
at
any
of
those
three
sites,
but
it
was
worth
it
because
it
was
so
dark
and
then,
if
you
wanted
to
take
a
shower,
you
would
drive
all
the
way
to
manzanita
lake
down
here
where
the
showers
were,
and
there
was
food
in
the
general
area
as
well.
B
B
And
this
is
what
bumpus
hell
looked
like
back,
then
doesn't
look
that
different?
Now
I
guess,
and
there
are
some
of
the
usual
suspects.
B
B
Geez,
I'm
drawing
a
blank
very
nice
person.
I
can't
remember
his
name
today
and
jane
smith
and
who's
a
dear
friend
of
mine
and
and
they
all
wear
those
hats
on
a
normal
basis.
This
guy,
here
jim
ster
I'll,
get
back
to
him
in
a
minute
and
there's
another
picture
of
randy.
B
So
there
were
lingering
problems
with
the
star
party.
I
was
not
involved
in
organizing
the
star
party,
although
I
used
to
attend
when
I
got
back
into
astronomy.
B
I
said
I
gotta
find
somebody
who's,
organizing
something
that
I
can
get
out
of
the
city
and
enjoy
this
with
my
daughter,
but
you
couldn't
camp
next
to
your
equipment.
You
have
to
pack
up
every
night
and
drive
on
a
what
I
considered
a
treacherous
road
when
you're
tired-
and
I
don't
like
that
so
much-
there's
limited
space,
there
was
limited
camping.
B
You
have
to
drive
all
the
way
to
manzanita
lake
to
get
services
and
the
meat
bees.
There
are
lots
of
those
and
yeah
they
were.
They
were
relentless
and
I
have
a
picture
of
one
of
my
friends
there
in
the
lower
right
corner.
B
So
the
next
logical
step
for
this
group
was
to
find
something
that
was
bigger,
a
bigger
venue
that
was
in
the
same
general
area,
and
we
had
something
called
the
shinglestown
shingletown
star
party
or
ssp
and
otherwise
known
as
the
linear,
star
party
and
ssp,
was
held
east
of
redding
about
40
minutes
east
of
reading.
Maybe
30
40
minutes
on
an
abandoned
runway.
B
B
Jim
sturr,
who
I
pointed
out
earlier,
and
his
wife
margaret,
had
the
great
idea
saying:
let's
have
an
event
on
the
shingletown
runway
and
help
raise
money
for
the
town,
so
they'll
be
welcoming
to
all
these
astronomers
we'll
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
the
fact
that
there's
restaurants,
nearby
and
services
nearby
and
we'll
invite
all
the
astronomers
from
all
over
the
state
of
california
to
come,
join
us,
and
this
was
a
wildly
successful
event
for
several
years.
B
I
didn't
attend
the
first
year.
I
was
a
volunteer
the
second
year
and
I
was
a
co-director
for
the
next
three
years
of
this
event,
and
it
was
great
fun,
but
it
was
hot
and
there
was
this
red
dust.
B
The
dirt
on
both
sides
of
the
runway
was
this
volcanic
red
dust,
and
I
remember
having
a
car
where,
10
years
later,
that
dust
was
still
on
the
hubcaps.
There
was
no
way
to
get
it
off
of
anything,
and
some
people
who
were
really
picky
about
their
optics
only
came
once
other
people.
They
would
just
like
they
loved
it.
They'd
come
every
year.
They
didn't
care
they'd
wallow
in
the
red
dust
we
used
to
have
come
up
with
these
crazy
ways
to
keep
the
dust
down.
B
We
even
found
a
company
that
sprayed
some
product
made
out
of
corn
syrup
and
mixed
with
water
and
some
other
binding
organic
binding
compound,
and
they
would
spray
the
area
on
both
sides
of
the
runway.
We'd
hire
them
for
a
couple
grand
and
that
would
keep
the
dust
down
and
it
worked.
It
was
kind
of
it
was
really
weird
stuff
and
then
there
would
be
a
water
truck
that
would
come
by
every
once
in
a
while
to
keep
it.
B
You
know
watered
down,
of
course,
if
you
set
up
too
close
to
the
water
truck
you'd
be
doused,
so
that
was
kind
of
you
know.
The
red
dust
was
a
real
problem.
We
we
really
hated
that
you
could
fry
an
egg
on
that
runway
and
we
had
to
be
really
careful
about.
You
know
people
getting
overheated
and
but
it
was
a
great
event
it
was.
It
was
really
unique.
B
So
these
are
the
things
we
did
well,
which
was
you
know,
get
people
together
have
fun
a
lot
of
good,
stable
ground
for
the
scopes.
Setting
up
on
tarmac
was
kind
of
nice.
B
That's
a
nice
shot
of
my
dear
friend,
jim
turley,
who
passed
away
last
year
and
he
was
he
was
active
with
the
ssja
at
some
point.
B
And
these
were
these
were
some
of
the
art
that
came
out
of
the
event
we
used
to
have
badges.
Everybody
would
get
a
badge
to
indicate
that
they
belonged
at
the
event
and
people
this
secure.
Our
volunteer
security
would
check
that
the
only
people
who
came
in
were
people
who
had
you
know
who
were
supposed
to
be
there,
but
we
still
had
a
public
night
where
people
could
come
from
the
community
and
look
through
the
scopes.
That
was
always
a
big
important
component.
B
And
there's
a
kind
of
a
semi-aerial
view
of
of
what
the
star
party
looked
like.
It
was.
C
B
B
Clouds
overshaft
or
lassen
rather,
okay,
but
we
had
problems.
We
hit
the
maximum
size.
The
runway
was
full
right.
We
couldn't
get
any
more
people
in
there.
We
had
real
problems
with
vendors,
a
lot
of
them
were
really
flaky
and
that
wasn't
good
one
one
year
and
it
was.
It
was
awful.
We
had
a
bad
vendor
food
wise
and
it
made
some
people
sick,
and
that
was
a
problem.
We
had
the
light
dome
from
redding
the
red
dust.
B
B
Sorry,
can
you
guys
hear
me
right
now?
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
sorry,
my
my
my
headphones
decided
to
turn
off
spontaneously,
so
we
had
problems
political
problems.
I
mean
it
was
all
nice
people,
but
we
just
couldn't
agree
about
certain
things
and
it
basically
reached
ahead
after
we
had
already
begun
planning
the
2007
event,
and
at
that
point
we
knew
we
had
to
do
something
different,
those
of
us
from
the
bay
area
who
had
really
been
doing
the
brunt
of
the
organizing
said.
B
We
really
want
to
be
in
control
of
the
resources
for
this
event,
and
we
really
want
to
kind
of
make
our
own
future
and
not
get
caught
up
in
small
town
politics
if
we
could
help
it,
and
so
from
that
we
decided
to
create
a
different
event.
Instead
of
ssp
shingletown
star
party,
we
created
gssp
and
that's
how
the
name
ended
up.
The
acronym
is
directly
from
that
and
the
the
folks
who
were
sticking
by
shingletown
and
were
still
trying
to
organize
their
event
without
any
of
the
support
from
the
bay
area.
B
They
couldn't
get
their
website
going,
which
gave
us
an
opportunity
to
rent
all
of
the
campsites
at
summit
at
summit
lake
in
mount
lassen,
put
up
a
website
say
we're
moving
the
star
party.
B
We
can't
charge
for
you
to
camp,
but
we
can
charge
for
you
to
park
so
through
parking
fees
and
t-shirt
sales.
We
raised
enough
money
to
seed
the
future
of
our
star
party.
It
was
just
this
like
rapid
coup
that
we
did
in
order
to
preserve
tax
presence
in
this
large
event
in
northeast
california
and
to
kind
of
make
our
own
future,
and
so
we
came
up
with
that
logo,
and
that
was
our
2007
logo
for
the
golden
state
star
party,
and
it
was
a
great
success.
B
We
didn't
put
give
out
badges
that
years
last
year
we
did
badges
and
it
was
the
we
don't
need,
no
stinking
badge
badge,
and
this
is
what
it
looked
like
again.
It
was
looked
a
lot
like
the
lassen
star
party,
except
this
time
we
figured
out
a
way
to
monetize
it
for
our
for
our
purposes
and
we
set
up
a
non-profit,
a
501c7.
B
It's
not
it's,
not
a
charitable
nonprofit.
It's
a
membership
organization
for
mutual
benefit,
and
so
we
became
a
a
a
legal
corporation,
so
we
were
able
to
get
insurance
and
actually
have
a
real
legal
basis
behind
our
efforts.
B
So
the
goals
were
to
have
a
good
star
party,
raise
some
cash
and
find
a
new
permanent
home
for
gssp.
We
we
always
knew
that
lassen
was
a
stepping
stone.
We
did
not
want
to
have
a
permanent
star
party
there
year
after
year,
so
it
was
great.
We
had
180
attendees
at
mount
lassen.
We
raised
three
grand
and
pj.
B
We
were
mentioning
kevin
medlock
earlier
kevin
and
denny
introduced
us,
because
at
that
point,
kevin
and
denny
were
living
in
fall,
river
mills
and
they
came
up
and
they
introduced
us
to
the
alba
family.
Aaron
alba
is
the
owner
of
the
current
site
or
one
of
the
owners
of
the
current
site
where
we
hold
gssp
and
kevin
met
him.
While
he
was
bartending
at
fall,
river
mills
he
figured
the
best
way
to
meet.
Everybody
in
the
area
was
to
be
a
bartender
and
he
was
right.
B
So
the
albaz
came
up
and
visited
us
and
then
later
in
the
year
we
went
to
their
property
to
watch
the
perseus,
to
check
it
out
and
see
what
it
was
like
to
camp
and
see
what
kind
of
sky
we
got.
B
And
that's
what
the
site
looks
like
before
the
star
party
moves
in
this
is
their
quote:
unquote,
private
hunting
grounds
and
the
the
alba's
own
four
thousand
acres
they're
cattle
ranchers,
and
they
also
grow
a
perennial,
a
a
type
of
perennial
grass
for
grass-fed
beef,
and
this
area
is
just
available
during
the
summer.
It's
you
know,
there's
not
much
going
on
on
it
and
they
thought
it
would
be
a
great
place
for
us
to
have
the
star
party
and
they
they've
very
graciously
agreed
to.
B
You
drive
all
the
way
this
way
through
bernie
and
here's
fall
river
mills
and
you
wind
your
way
through
the
town
of
macarthur
and
bieber
until
you
get
to
aiden
and
that's
where
the
property
is,
and
so
the
nearest
towns
to
the
star
party
are
alturus,
which
there's
not
much
to
all
tourists
and
susanville.
Susanville
is
probably
the
largest
population
center
in
lassen
county
because
of
the
prison
right-
and
you
know
the
lassen
park
is
here
so
basically
we
basically,
we
just
moved
our
star
party
a
little
bit
east.
B
B
So
this
is
when
we
were
there
for
the
perseids
there's
a
kevin
medlock
and
myself
with
one
antler
and
there's
wagner,
setting
up
his
dab
in
the
background
on
the
upper
right
ken
frank
from
the
president
of
the
aanc
or
the
organization
formerly
known
as
the
aanc
they're
there
with
kevin,
and
that
was
the
first
time
we
used
the
property
for
astronomy,
and
this
is
aiden
the
the
and
supply
market
in
delhi
and
here's
a
story
for
you.
B
B
They
bought
a
house
right
next
to
the
alba's
property,
and
then
they
bought
aiden
supply.
So
they
are
actually
that's.
That's
chris
and
inga
kerry
and
they're
both
on
the
board
of
directors
of
the
gssp
as
well
as
now
owning
aiden
supply.
So
several
people
have
moved
up
to
the
area
and
they
became
so
enamored
with
the
beauty
of
this
area
and
the
and
the
people
are
so
nice
that
they
thought
they'd
wanna,
you
know
make
make
their
lives
there
and
we
were
welcome.
B
You
know
people
were
very
happy
to
have
us,
and
this
is
some
of
our
our
signage
and
in
2008.
This
is
what
welcomed
people,
and
you
can
see
some
pictures
of
the
family
in
the
upper
left
is
yours
truly
with
barbara
who's.
B
The
matriarch
of
the
family
she's,
one
of
my
favorite
people,
aaron,
who
I
was
talking
about
earlier-
is
in
the
middle
of
the
center
frame
and
his
brother
andy
and
more
of
the
family
in
the
upper
right,
some
of
the
kids
and
they're
cooking
for
the
star
party,
because
one
of
the
other
things
I
wanted
to
make
sure
of
is
that
we
had
good
food,
and
I
remember
the
first
year
that
we
had
the
star
party.
They
made
steaks
for
200
or
220.
B
Aaron
was
out
picking
wild
peas
the
day
before
that
he
knew
where
they
grew
on
his
property
and
they
made
these
salads
with
you
know,
with
wild
peas
that
were
grown
on
the
on
the
ranch
and
steaks
from
their
from
their
cattle
ranch
operation
and
just
real
top
quality
stuff,
and
we,
I
always
felt
like
you
know,
if
you,
if
you
have
good
food,
you
can't
have
a
bad
event
and
it's
it's
one
of
my
real
philosophies.
B
It's
a
toss-up
between
the
food
and
the
shower
truck.
Those
are
both
essential
elements
to
to
a
good
star
party,
and
we
had
we
had
both
of
those
things.
B
The
organizers
there's
jane
again,
I
mentioned
jane
smith
earlier
and
she's
always
been
carrying
a
lot
of
the
water
for
this
event,
and
there
is
inga
on
in
that
center
photo
photo
she's
the
woman
on
the
right
she's,
one
of
the
owners
of
aiden
supply.
Now
jeff
gordowski,
the
upper
right,
and,
I
believe,
that's
debbie,
debbie,
cyrils,
debbie,
cyrils
and
paul
alsing
are
both
organizers
of
this
event.
Bill
port
passed
away,
lower,
left
corner.
B
We
miss
him
dearly,
that's
susan
wicks,
so
charlie
and
susan
are
both
organizers
of
the
event.
These
are
some
people
in
the
lower
section,
putting
up
the
tents,
marcia
robinson
on
the
lower
right
wearing
her
shingletown
star
party
shirt.
B
B
We
experienced
a
deluge
of
rain
the
first
night
and
we
had
imagined
we
were
thinking
they're
going
to
need
tractors,
to
pull
the
cars
campers
out
and
everything
it's
just
going
to
be
a
sea
of
mud,
and
it
turns
out
that
the
ground
there
is
all
volcanic
and
it
all
it
just
absorbed
all
the
water.
It
just
sucked
it
all
out
and
there
wasn't
a
single
stuck
vehicle
and
we
realized
that
we
were.
We
had
really
dodged
a
bullet
because
I
was
afraid
it
was
going
to
look
like
woodstock.
B
But
on
the
second
day
it
cleared
up,
that's
charlie,
wix's
home-built
refractor
in
the
top
photo-
and
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
remember,
bruce
sayer.
He
used
to
build
those
wonderful
binocular
scopes
and.
C
B
B
I
took
this
photo
just
because
I
wanted
to
have
a
reminder
of
just
how
crazy
the
weather
could
get.
So
we
were
setting
up.
I
don't
remember
what
year
it
was.
I
think
this
is
2011..
B
B
Almost
a
hurricane-force
wind,
all
of
a
sudden,
and
it
pulled
up
all
of
those
tents
you
see
in
the
background,
including
one
of
the
hospitality
tents.
We
have.
These
big
heavy
hospitality,
tents
and
attached
to
one
of
those
tents
was
susan
wicks
who
was
holding
on
for
dear
life
as
she
was
carried
10
feet
into
the
air
by
the
by
the
wind
generated
by
this
cloud,
and
then
it
started
to
hail.
It
was
95
degrees
and
hailing,
and
it
was
just
the
weir
susan
was
okay,
thank
goodness.
B
B
B
B
A
Can
you
go
full
screen
yeah.
B
B
That
was
from
one
of
our
talented
attendees
hold
on
for
a
second,
I
gotta
make
sure
it
doesn't
start
playing.
The
next
thing.
A
Are
you
gonna
show
the
drone
video
too.
F
B
To
stop
my
sound
here,
there
is
a
drone
video,
it's
pretty
good,
but
I
don't
want
to
take
up
too
much
time.
So
I
think
I'm
gonna
skip
the
drone,
video
and
and
mention
a
couple
of
other
things.
I've
had
thought
about
doing
that,
but
I
don't
wanna.
B
I
don't
wanna
overdo
my
time
here,
no
problem.
I
can
send
out
an
email
link,
yeah
yeah,
it's
a
good!
It's
a
good
drone
video!
It's
it's
actually
very
enjoyable,
so
you
should
actually
be
back
now
and
seeing
my
powerpoint
and
what
I
do
want
to
do,
though,
is
mention
some
of
the.
If
I'm
in
the
make
sure
I'm
in
the
right
place
here,
bear
with
me
yeah.
B
The
other
thing
we
like
is
we've
kind
of
created.
A
strange
comic
art
out
of
gssp
and
charlie
wicks
is
a
very
talented,
graphics
designer
and
as
a
group
we
would
come
up
with
some
theme
and
he
would
execute
it
brilliantly
and
and
come
up
with
our
t-shirts.
B
So
our
very
first
event,
we
thought
we'll
do
a
play
on
woodstock
instead
of
a
guitar
it'll,
be
a
telescope
and
four
nights
of
peace
and
starlight,
and
that
was
our
first
t-shirt.
B
The
second
one
was
a
shout
out
to
the
cattle
ranching
roping
in
good
in
roping,
in
great
skies
at
frosty
acres
ranch
with
taurus
the
bull.
In
the
background,
this
is
my
favorite
one.
It's
the
one,
I'm
wearing
right
now
and
that's
the
play
on
the
tooth
on
2001,
though,
except
it
was
2010
a
space
odyssey
with
the
surprised
bull
in
the
space
suit,
and
the
happy
face
is
the
is
the
logo
for
the
ranch?
That's
what's
on
their
brand
for
the
for
the
cows.
B
This
was
people's
favorite
in
the
end
and
it's
actually
the
hardest
one
to
find,
because
for
some
reason
the
material
for
those
shirts
was
not
up
to
par,
and
this
was
the
mayan
end
of
the
world
celebration
and
you
really
have
to
look
in
deep
detail
on
these
rings
and
the
various
the
various
little
graphics
charlie's
stuck
in
there
and
they're.
Some
of
them
are
hilarious.
B
You
know
here
was
a
homage
to
the
rainstorm
from
the
previous
year.
Gosh.
I
don't.
I
don't
know
you
know
lightning,
there's
little
telescopes
in
here,
but
anyway
it
was.
It
was
a
play
on
the
mayan
calendar.
B
This
one
is
the
it's
I
forgot:
who
did
this
woodcut
originally
and
it
was
a
play
on
that
gosh.
I
don't
remember
you
guys
if
you,
if
you
could
help
me,
if
you
remember
who
did
this
wood
cut
it's
from
the
1600s,
I
believe,
maybe
even
earlier,
but
anyway
it
doesn't
matter
this
one.
I
think
denny
medlock
had
come
up
with
the
idea.
B
This
one
was
a
little
more
mundane,
but
here
we
go.
This
was
the
new
horizons
mission
was
in
2015,
so
we
decided
to
do
an
homage
to
new
horizons.
B
This
was
my
favorite
one.
This
one
shows
the
distorted
eclipse
path
passing
over
aiden
california,
because
everybody
was
at
that
point
in
time
there
was
like
all
over
facebook.
All
over
social
media
was
the
classic
picture
of
the
eclipse
path.
So
I
said,
let's
do
one,
that's
completely
ridiculous
and
missed
it
by
that
much
oregon
star
party.
Of
course
it
flew
right
over
their
event,
this
was
the
elon
musk
tesla
in
space.
B
B
You
know
the
ability
to
gather
together
and
and
have
this
kind
of
group.
We
don't
know
what
it
will
look
like
next
time.
We
don't
know
whether
we
will
have
hospitality
tents.
We
don't
know
whether
we
can
have
group
meals.
We
don't
know
whether
we're
going
to
want
to
you
know
say
you
have
to
be
vaccinated
to
attend.
B
All
of
these
things
are
really
difficult
questions
and
we're
not
going
to
know
the
answer
until
later
on.
You
know,
assuming
we
know
the
answer
coming
up:
calstar
2021,
I'm
hoping
to
go
to
that.
That's
on
the
7th
through
10th
of
october
has
always
been
another
event
closely
associated
with
sjaa
sjaa
used
to
buy
the
insurance.
For
this
event
as
a
gift,
that's
at
lake
san
antonio
in
monterey
county.
B
If
you've
never
heard
of
it
search
for
calstar2021,
we
don't
know
yet
what
the
dates
will
be
for
gssp
2022,
but
it
will
most
likely
be
the
july
dates
july.
New
moon
chances
are
oregon.
Star
party
will
be
held
at
the
same
time
as
gssp
this
time,
or
at
least
within
a
week,
to
learn
more
to
follow
what
we're
deciding
visit,
www.goldenstatestarparty.org.
B
Now
I
got
to
ask
you
some
questions
and
you
guys
can
unmute.
If
you
want
to
to
ask
me
questions
or,
but
I
I've
got,
the
I've
got
the
rhetorical
question
out
there,
given
where
we're
where
we
are
these
days
with
covid
and
our
you
know,
general
uncertainty.
B
Would
you
feel
comfortable
attending
a
star
party
at
this
point
or
no?
I
know
two
years
ago.
My
answer
was
absolutely
not
one
year
ago
I
was
thinking
that
maybe
I
would,
but
now
we
better
not-
and
you
know
other
star
parties
came
to
similar
conclusions.
B
Texas
star
party
couldn't
get
insurance
last
year
or
last
time,
oregon's
star
party
got
burned
out,
they
couldn't
they
couldn't
hold
the
event,
because
the
forest
service
said
no.
A
B
B
It's
got
a
28
vaccination
rate,
so
I
wasn't
comfortable
and
neither
were
the
other
people
on
the
committee,
so
I
feel
like
next
year
our
discomfort
will
have
faded.
B
B
So
I
don't
know
I
don't
know,
and
I
I
I,
although
I
feel
better
about
the
idea
of
of
holding
a
star
party.
Well,
we
have
attendees.
B
Would
you
folks
be
open
to
the
idea
of
what
I
mean
we're
starting
now,
I
think
astrophotography
is
the
future
of
star
parties
everybody's
doing
astrophotography
now
in
some
degree
it's
not
just.
It
used
to
be
a
purist,
visual
event,
and
that
has
changed,
and
I
I
encourage
astrophotographers
to
to
attend
star
party
to
get
that
additional
signal
to
noise
ratio
and
there's
nothing
like
a
dark
sky
to
make
your
life
easier
in
in
post-processing
and
the
you're
able
to
go
a
lot
deeper
when
you're
in
dark
skies.
B
So
that's
a
big
part
of
our
event.
I'd
say:
half
our
attendees
were
were
doing
some
sort
of
astrophotography
by
the
time
coveted
rolled
around.
So
we
want
to
hold
the
event,
but
we
also
want
to
know
if
people
are
open
to
the
idea.
F
I
have
some
analogy,
or
a
parallel
instance
of
what's
going
on
if
you
look
at
hawaii
with
the
tourism
that
is
occurring
there,
and
after
all,
as
astrophotographers
and
and
whatnot,
essentially
we're
tourists,
okay,
so
the
situation-
and
it's
all
very
much
in
flux,
is
that
situation
in
hawaii
is
is
that
it
appears
that
the
lieutenant
governor
of
hawaii
has
come
out
and
said
that
turret
the
tourists
themselves,
because
many
of
them
come
over
from
california
and
whatever
they
are
not.
F
They
are
not
the
major
spenders
of
covid
at
this
point
in
time.
What
is
happening
is
that
a
fair
percentage
of
the
cover
that
is
being
spread
is
by
hawaiians
that
are
returning
to
hawaii.
That's
one
and
two
all
the
locals
that
have
been
in
total
isolation
are
now
ripe
for
fast
spread
within
their
social
group
wherever
they
may
be.
Many
of
them
are
not
a
part
of
the
tourism
industry,
and
so
I
would
suggest
that
that's
probably
going
to
be
happening
with,
let
us
say
the
rural
counties.
F
F
So
I
suspect
that
that
is
probably
a
trend
that
is
going
to
continue
in
the
the
rural
counties
and,
dare
I
say,
a
trump
plan.
B
B
I
think,
looking
at
it
in
the
context
of
tourism
is
probably
really
valuable
because
it
allows
me
it
certainly
allows
me
other
google
search
terms
to
to
see
how
different
communities
have
been
dealing
with
the
tourism
or
lack
thereof
in
the
in
the
presence
of
covid.
B
I
have
to
think
about
things
like
all
right.
We've
got
two
300
people
on
the
field.
Do
we
require
vaccination?
Are
we
going
to
police
that
or
are
we
just
gonna
strongly
suggest
it?
I
don't
want
to
be
policing
things.
It's
not
it's!
It's
not
we're
not
good
at
it.
I'm
not
good
at
that,
and
I
don't
think
I
want
to
create
that
atmosphere,
but
I
would
probably
put
a
note
up
saying
we
strongly
suggest
you
attend
this.
Only
if
you've
been
vaccinated,
something
like
that.
B
We
also
you
know
we
have
a
shower
truck
right,
so
you
have
hundreds
of
people
sharing
I
mean
the
showers
are
cleaned
constantly
by
the
they're
staffed
the
entire
time
they're,
not
just
sitting
there
and
they're
cleaned.
Very
frequently,
if
not
after
every
shower,
assuming
we
can
get
that
vendor,
because
that
vendor
had
closed
down
not
doing
anything
at
all
because
of
covid,
assuming
that
we
can
get
that
vendor
again,
you
know,
that's
another.
People
are
gonna.
B
Look
at
that
they're
gonna
say:
oh,
you
know,
I
don't
know
who's
been
taking
a
shower.
I
mean
we're,
we've
all
forgotten
how
to
be
social.
You
know-
and
that's
that's
the
reality
of
it,
and
so
there's
that,
and
we
have
you
know
and
we
we
have
16
24
portagons
right.
So
there's
that
probably
it
might
be
premature
to
do
shared
meals
just
because
of
people
being
in
proximity,
and
so
people
will
have
to
you
know,
fend
for
themselves
either
go
to
the
restaurants
or
or
cook
in
their
campsites.
B
So
those
are
all
of
the
different
issues
that
I'm
juggling.
I
don't
want
to
turn
it
into
something:
that's
not
fun
anymore,
because
then,
why
would
anybody
want
to
come
right.
E
Okay,
well,
first
of
all,
I
went
to
the
the
calstr
last
year
and
was
I'm
very
concerned
because
I
have
a
daughter
that
has
special
needs,
and
so
I
kind
of
police
myself.
B
E
I
basically
stayed
probably
about
50
yards
away
from
everybody
else
brought
my
own
porta
potty
and
you
know
so.
I
think
I
think
some
of
it
also
falls
on
us,
because
I
can't
I
can't
depend
upon
the
world
to
be
to
follow
all
the
the
advice
yeah,
and
so
I
we
went
to
montana
this
year
so
that
we
could
so
that
we
could
see
proceeds.
E
We
stayed
at
a
cabin
that
was
away
from
everybody
else,
and
so
I
police
myself,
and
I
think
that
I
was
actually
planning
to
go
to
the
golden
state
party
this
year
because
because
I
felt
like
I
could
still
do
the
same
thing.
There.
B
E
B
C
B
But
I
think
that,
maybe
for
us
to
be
responsible,
we
need
to
create
the
environment
that
makes
it
easy
for
other
people
to
act
responsibly.
E
Right,
I
agree.
I
agree
I
mean
I
would
probably
wear
my.
I
would
probably
wear
my
mask
around
people.
I
would
social
distance
and
I
said,
and
that's
it's
really
basically,
I'm
protecting
myself,
even
though
I'm
vaccinated
it
doesn't
it's
not
fully
protective
at
this
point
with
the
new
variant
right.
B
E
E
B
C
Yeah,
I
wanted
to
say
that
last
summer,
actually,
I
was
really
surprised
during
actually
the
lockdowns.
C
We
went
to
pinnacles
one
weekend
and
surprisingly,
both
parkings
on
west
were
coming
with
astronomers
and
what
I
saw
that
is
that
people
were
following
the
safety,
because
all
people
were
in
masks.
Nobody
was
actually
looking
through
the
other
telescopes,
so
they
were
actually
following
the
city.
C
A
C
Hygiene
and
all
this
stuff,
but
there
is
a
they're,
actually
keeping
income
right
if
they
know
they
start
somewhere.
C
A
I
guess
I'll
give
you
my
point
of
view,
so
I
I
just
been
to
one
which
is
you
know:
19
gssp
19,
my
first
last,
unfortunately,
so
until
now-
and
you
know
it's
a
long
drive,
so
I
mean
it's
not
like
going
to
oregon,
but
it
was
like
six
hours
or
something
like
that
or
I
I
may
have
be
off
by
a
half
hour.
B
A
So
you
know-
and
I
didn't
go
to
pinnacles
for
two
hours
now
I
loved
gssp
and
I
would
go
back
and
if
things
were
normal,
but
the
attraction
to
me
was,
you
know
talking
to
a
million
people
about
their
telescopes.
I
mean
there
were
telescopes
everywhere
it
was
going
to
a
telescope
convention
and
you
know
I
just
spent
my
time
walking
around.
I
didn't
know
anybody
there.
I
went
on
my
own.
You
know
pitched
my
tent
had
a
great
time,
but
I
didn't
go
with
friends
and
I
didn't
bump
into
anybody.
A
I
knew,
but
I
had
a
great
time
visiting
people
talking
to
people.
People
were
so
good,
so
friendly
and
seeing
all
the
stuff.
If
you
took
that
and
by
the
way
the
food
and
the
showers
were
great
too
and
the
charging
stations
and
all
that
that
good
stuff,
all
the
infrastructure
that
you
provided.
But
you
know,
if
I
didn't
have
the
you
know
if
I
had
to
really
cut
back
on
the
people
and
the
food.
A
B
Have
to
be,
I
have
to
be
a
bit
of
a
student
of
social
behavior.
I
think
what
I'm
going
to
be
doing
is
you
know,
I'm
going
to
be
watching
how
people
interact
at
calstar.
I
have
friends
who
are
going
to
okie
tex,
which
is
I
wanted
to
go
to
that.
Actually,
that's
that's
a
big
star
party,
very
similar
to
gssp
in
oklahoma,
in
the
oklahoma
panhandle,
and
I'm
going
to
be
interested
to
know
how
successful
that
event
is.
Of
course
it's
an
act
in
oklahoma.
B
So
that's
a
another
love
part
of
the
country,
but
nonetheless
it'll
be
interesting.
It'll,
be
interesting
to
see
whether
texas
can
put
on
an
event
and
where
my
friends
at
oregon
are-
and
I
think
that
you
know
I've
got
to
watch
what
other
people
are
doing,
but
you
know
I'm
going
to
end
up
respecting.
You
know
what
the
majority
of
our
organizing
committee
you
know,
wants
to
do
and.
E
A
I
just
wanted
to
break
a
little
off
topic,
but
my
gssp
story
from
19
was
my
first
night,
like
I
said,
never
had
been
there
to
a
star
party,
and
I
was
you
know
following
all
the
rules,
and
I
didn't
want
to
have
a
lot
of
light.
You
know
all
that
stuff
right
and
I
was
you
know
in
the
boonies
in
your
image.
You
know
the
far
out
imaging
session
in
the
boone.
Oh.
A
Or
cloud
so
I
was
far
away.
I
mean
there
were
a
lot
of
people
near
me,
but
it
was
far
from
the
future,
not
that
far
right
but
anyway,
so
I
go
there.
It's
real
dark.
I
take
a
walk
at
night.
You
know
I
set
up
my
telescope
and
it's
imaging
and
I
don't
need
to
be
hanging
out
with
it.
It's
going
just
fine,
so
I
start
taking
a
walk
and
I
walk
around
anyway.
I
get
totally
lost
in
the
dark.
B
A
B
A
I
have
to
ask
people:
okay:
where
are
we
you
know?
If
I
want?
Which
way?
Do
I
walk
to
the
oort
cloud?
You
know
stuff
like
that
and
yeah
anyway,
it
was
that
was
my
funny
experience.
Yeah
yep.
B
All
right
well,
thank
you
for
those
comments.
I
know
you
guys
have
any
questions
or
any
other
thoughts,
and
if
not
I
I
do
want
to
mention
one
other
thing.
We
did
have
the
opportunity.
Sjas
helped
sponsor
a
really
good
film
called
saving
the
dark.
B
But
it's
a
really
good
film.
If
you
want
to
see
some
of
the
other
characters
who
are
involved
in
the
in
that
project,
as
well
as
learn
some
really
great
stuff
about
light
pollution.
B
A
D
B
I
hope
I
see
some
of
you
join
us
at
the
chabot
saturday
night
thing
that
we
do
if
you're.
A
All
right
well,
thank
you
rich
and
thanks
everybody
else,
and
I
guess
that's
the
end
of
our
of
tonight's
meeting.