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A
A
representing
now
and
you're,
representing
mesh
I,
believe
right
consensus,
mesh,
okay
cool,
so
the
pgp
member
should
have
access
to,
and
that
includes
you.
Sonal
now
should
have
access
to
our
notes
document
that
we
use
for
meetings.
A
A
But
first
for
our
our
two
guests.
Are
we
expecting
a
third
person?
Are
we
expecting
Guillaume
or
or
just
the
two
of
you,
the
two
of
you,
okay,
great,
then?
What
I'd
like
to
ask?
First
of
all,
any
objections
from
the
rest
of
the
group
to
adjusting
our
agenda
that
way?
A
A
A
There'll
be
an
opportunity
for
us
to
ask
questions
and
then
with
you
here
and
then
we'll
we'll
say,
thank
you
and,
and
you
know,
and
you
guys
can
jump
off
the
call
and
we'll
continue
with
our
meeting
and
we'll.
Let
you
know
if
we
have
any
other
other
feedback.
B
A
C
A
So,
let's
see
I
guess
I
think
we
could
record
this
part
and
then,
when
you
guys
leave,
we
could
stop
recording
as
that's
possible.
Claudia.
C
Okay,
how
about
this,
like
I,
will
work
with
the
NGO
to
to
capture
the
meeting
other
items
that
he
should
be
following
up,
so
so
I.
D
Can
also
record
it's
not
a
problem.
Sorry
why
I
can
record
the
meeting.
C
That
is
legal
or
financial
related
is
it's
just
to
make
sure
our
team
is
well
aware
of?
What's
going
on.
A
C
A
You
guys
want
to
just
record
locally
Claudia.
Let's
just
keep
it
simple!
Okay,
if
you
want
to
report
locally
while
you're
on
that's
fine
and
then
when
you
leave
the
meeting.
Clearly,
that's
the
end
of
the
recording
so.
A
C
Thank
you.
So
my
name
is
from
Smart
token
Labs.
We
work
on
token
script,
I
think
it's
self-introduction
our
technology
introduction
right.
So
so,
basically,
that's
it
right
now,
I'm
in
Spain
and
I
will
be
living
in
Spain
for
the
next
possible
future.
A
Thank
you
so
we'll
have
you
guys,
go
ahead
and
present
and
then
just
for
this
for
this
portion
of
the
meeting
Claudia,
would
you
be
willing
to
take
notes
on
any
questions
that
we
ask
and
answers
that
they
provide?
There's
a
you'll
see
under
the
main
topics,
yeah
well
or
chat
you're
already
there,
whichever
one
of
you
you're
already
looking
at
it
chat
and
you
needed
okay.
B
C
Yeah
so
so
token,
script
reflected
our
belief
that
then,
that,
among
all
the
things
blockchain
enabled
token
is
the
most
important
thing
and
and
the
reason
being,
that
a
token
gives
and
gives
possibility
for
web
services
to
be
integrated.
Well
in
the
past
they
have
to
be
integrated
towards
a
Center
Point
such
as
Google.
So,
for
example,
today
websites
integrates
into
Google
Calendar,
into
Gmail
and
and
into
Facebook.
C
Every
website
has
connections
with
Center
points,
but
in
reality
each
functionalities
can
be
divided
into
a
smaller
portion
and
managed
by
token,
and
because
the
way
we
see
token,
as
not
only
the
financial
instruments
and
but
also
as
integrating
component
as
the
future
tokenized
web,
we
envision
that
technology
has
to
be
standardized
not
only
on
a
blockchain
but
also
in
the
on
in
the
in
the
client
in
the
in
the
browser,
so
that
a
website
that
utilizes
a
few
tokens
and
can
can
can
run
this
token
script
in
a
separate
runtime
space
that
communicates
with
the
website
and
because,
if
token
script
any
token
logic
has
to
be
ready
in
the
web
service,
it
would
violate
the
the
trust
basis
and,
and
it
would
not
serve
as
a
good
good
indication
point
for
for
fully
functional
decentralized
web.
A
C
So
basically,
there's
a
gist
of
it
and
then
the
the
document
later
goes
on
to
explain
that
it
needs
to
run
in
the
user's
wallet,
and
although
we
will,
we
do
Envision,
there
will
be
a
bridge
period
of
time
where
a
token
script
has
to
be
to
be
to
to
work
in
in
a
browser
in
the
browser
page
of
the
website
that
uses
the
tokens
But.
C
C
There
are
files
which
is
the
enclosure
of
the
runtime
environment,
runtime
code
and
user
interface
and
Trust
parameter,
and
there
are
like
a
four
things
that
we
think
is
mandatory
for
for
anything
like
tokenscript
to
be
in
technical,
connecting
component
for
the
future
web.
It
has
to
be
trustworthy,
which
means
if
the
website
shows
a
token
being
used
on
website.
The
token
is
actually
being
used
for
today.
C
If
you
go
to
a
website
that
says
you
have
an
ape,
you
may
or
may
not
have
one,
because
websites
simply
display
one
for
you
and
the
second
one
being
interoperability,
which
means
the
the
token
and
the
website
should
be
Loosely
coupled
and
the
user
should
be
able
to
use
new
tokens.
That
website
isn't
aware
of
as
long
as
it
satisfy
the
needs
and
one
example
being
like
you.
You
need
to
pay
ether
with
a
token,
and
it
doesn't
matter
how
the
token
generated
either
either
from
line
of
credit
or
from
withdrawal.
C
It
doesn't
matter
as
long
as
it
can
provide
either
the
website
should
accept
it,
and
the
other
example
might
be
a
token
that
will
work
as
a
component
as
a
storage
for
users
preference.
It
doesn't
matter
how
how
user
manage
the
preference
as
long
as
website
knows,
for
example,
users,
language,
preference
or
which
kind
of
game
the
user
wants
to
play
so
and
that's
about
interoperability.
Privacy
requires
refers
to.
The
website,
only
learns
about
tokens
that
the
user
choose
to
use
on
the
website.
C
In
this
way,
you
can
view
a
token
like
cookie,
except
that
this
this
is
the
cookie
where
the
user
gives
websites
access.
Now
the
website
gives
to
the
user,
and
for
that
reason
only
the
tokens
that
is
relevant
and
is
accessible
by
the
website
and
the
token
information
can
be
hidden
from
the
website.
So,
for
example,
if
you
have
a
token
that
is
a
if
you
have
ether
token,
that
has
a
million
dollar
balance
and
the
website
can
access
that
token
to
make
payment,
but
they
cannot
learn
the
balance.
C
From
that
token,
so
there
will
have
to
be
a
privacy
barrier
and
finally,
security,
which
means
that
the
Tokyo
related
transactions
should
be
generated
on
websites
that
users
to
generated
by
the
token
script,
under
the
request
of
the
underlying
website,
not
not
that
the
website
generates
transactions
for
the
users.
So
today
website,
trans
websites
generate
transactions
for
the
users.
It's
a
little
bit
like
e-commerce
website,
the
generational
transactions
for
you
to
withdraw
currents,
your
your
credit
card
balance
that
that
is
not
appropriate.
C
So
so
this
goes
on
to
explain
all
the
features.
How
do
we
Define
tips
and
then
we
go
to
Aguas
and
goes
on
to
explain
the
roles
such
as
talking,
usually
as
what
the
talking
issuers
would
would
see
toxic
script
and
how
the
wallets
will
see
token
script
and
it
goes
on
to
explain,
details
and
I
think
that's
a
gist
of
it.
B
B
C
So
so
there
are
two
things
and
where
the
files
are
physically
stored
and
where
is
the
runtime
environment
for
the
file
right?
Okay,
there
are
two
things
so
about
where
the
file
is
is
stored.
We
don't
standardize
it
yet.
There
is
a
EIP
on
where
it
might
be
stored
on
ipfs,
but
we
write
the
EIP
simply
because
people
ask
for
it,
but
we
don't
intend
to
enforce
where
the
code
is
stored.
The
reason
we
don't
want
to
enforce
it
is
because
I
give
I'll,
give
you
an
example
to
say
wide
code.
C
We
don't
want
to
enforce
where
the
code
is
stored,
we
want.
Instead
we
want
to
have
a
layered
approach
where
the
implementation
decides.
For
example,
if
you,
if
you
have
a
subway
token-
and
you
can
use
that
token-
maybe
maybe
you
can
use
that
token
as
a
collection
and
by
the
end
of
the
year,
they
will
reward
you
for
commuting
every
the
more
than
200
days
per
year.
C
Maybe
there
are
games
designed
for
a
token,
but
when
you
really
check
on
which
is
when
you
really
enter
the
subway,
only
one
token
one
function
token
that
token
measures
which
is
to
reduce
the
count
of
the
token
by
one
use
token
used
by
one.
C
So
when
you
tap
your
your
mobile
phone
on
the
subway
subway,
where
the
talk
is
neutralized,
the
subway
might
use
near
field
communication
and
FC
to
send
you
a
minimized
version
of
the
token
script
simply
to
finalize
a
transaction
where
you
can
reduce
the
count
by
one
and
when
you
use
a
token
on
the
website
or
even
in
computer
game.
The
The
Token
might
load
a
lot
of
other
code,
for
example,
to
display
a
beautiful
anymore.
The
go
with
your
token.
Maybe
maybe
you
choose
tiger
or
whatever
and
a
clinical
game
character.
C
Then
it
has
load
a
lot
more
assets.
So
usually
the
context
by
which
token
is
used
is
most
to
accurately
aware
of
what
part
of
token
script
and
what
virtual
token
script
is
applicable
for
that
scenario,
so
they
might
transmit
through
an
fcr.
They
might
put
it
on
a
website
because
it's
internet
is
not
connected
internet,
they
might
offer
download
from
the
on
the
web
access
point,
or
maybe
it
is
Unchained,
so
we
don't
specify
it
so
that
the
implementation
can
do
whatever
whatever
they
they
like.
C
And
it's
it's
the
same
like
how
HTTP
is
not
the
same
as
HTML
you
can
say
which
you
can
be
from
FTP
yeah,
so
the
the
the
the
the
runtime
environment
of
token
script
ideally
is
in
the
mobile,
secure,
Zone
and
because
it
ideally
token
should
be
as
a
service
that
provides
connection
to
all
of
the
apps.
So
one
example
being
if
you
let's
say
you
have
a
hotel
booking,
okay
and
you
booked
a
hotel
from
booking.com,
so
the
app,
no
matter
how
help
you
to
get
the
hotel
booking.
C
As
a
token,
however,
later
you
might
auction
that
token
on
a
different
app
which
it
might
be
optional,
not
provided
by
booking.com,
so
different
apps
might
access
your
token
differently
and
the
token
should
be
considered
as
a
operating
system
service
in
this
case
and
to
provide
integration
to
all
of
the
applications.
But
if
this
app
cannot
be
achieved
in
the
next
10
years,
the
way
we
will
view
it
is
that
it
should
be
a
browser
component.
C
So
so
token,
scripts
runtime
environment
is
a
little
bit
like
a
browser
plugin,
except
that
the
browser
plugin
is
a
kind
of
horizontal
and
talk
is
kind
of
vertical,
in
the
sense
that
we
have
a
lot
of
tokens
and
we
don't.
We
have
limited
number
of
plugins
and
more
than
one
token
can
work
on
one
website.
They're
they're
just
work
in
different
fashion,
but
they
have
their
runtime
environment,
similar
to
how
a
plugin
runtime
environment
is
managed.
E
So
you
basically
have
for
a
particular
token
on
different
drafts
by
the
way.
So,
for
a
particular
token
you'll
have
a
you:
have
a
Dap
template
that
that
encapsulates
all
the
functionalities
of
that
particular
token
correct.
C
E
E
Oh,
it
connects
to
the
blockchain
right,
so
there's
there's
there.
There
are
endpoints
that
are
exposed
that
can
that
can
be
utilized
by
by
other
applications,
either
mobile
or
or
or
browser
right.
So
it's
you're
you're
you're
envisioning
this
as
a
lower
level,
real
service
that
that
runs
on
the
on
the
OS.
C
Also
I
need
to
point
out.
It
has
to
have
UI
components,
because
it's
not
a
purely
endpoint,
because
the
user
cannot
be
sure
if
the
website
is
accessing
endpoints
correctly.
So
one
way
to
say
that
is
and
if
the
website
asks
you
to
to
rent
your
car,
because
the
website
wants
to
rent
your
car-
and
let's
say
your
car
is
a
token
and
the
website
wants
to
see
leave
the
card
to
us.
C
We
will
find
custom
customers
for
a
car
and
give
you
Revenue,
and
then
you
cannot
trust
the
website
to
have
a
correctly
called
endpoint,
which
says:
get
user
authorization.
C
The
website
May
access
the
endpoint
which
says
transfer
car
ownership.
Instead,
you
know
what
I
mean
so
when
the
website
wants
to
users
to
when
the
website
wants
to
access
the
user's
car,
the
user's
total
script
would
take
over
and
ask
user
if
the
user
wants
to
rent
the
website
to
the
car
rent
the
car
to
the
website
instead
of
the
website
asking
the
user
that
question
and
call
the
corresponding
endpoint.
A
By
the
way,
the
silence
here
is
people
thinking,
because
most
of
us
have
either
a
very
strong
web,
2
or
very
strong
web
3
backgrounds.
Some
have
both,
and
so
we're
just
sort
of
thinking
about
the
architecture
and
part
of
those
thoughts
is
like.
Does
this
introduce
new?
A
C
Well
and
Epoch
is
not
worth
pursuing,
so
the
reason
we
want
to
decentralize.
It
is
because
without
these
centralized
points,
so
with
this
centralized
points
currently,
every
website
connects
to
Innovation
is
permission.
So
if
somebody
wants
to,
for
example,
tokenize
the
car,
then
before
apple
is
able
to
do
that
into
Apple
wallet,
There's
no
practical
way
to
integrate
that
to
all
websites.
C
So
why
don't
we
allow
it
to
be
run
as
a
free
market
and
then
everybody
who
can
use
blockchain
to
build
a
token
other
websites
and
services
can
integrate
to
it
utilize
it
sell
it
and
buy
it
or
use
the
function
now.
For
that
to
happen,
we
need
to
have
an
open
framework.
So
so
so
there
is
really
a
market
oriented
thinking.
How
do
we
release
the
power
of
the
market
free
market
for
the
benefit
of
everybody,
and
then
centralization
is
in
the
way,
rather
than
we
do
this
all
for
decentralization
okay,.
A
Thank
you
sounds
good
for
time
reasons.
Let
me
just
ask
for
the
pgb
members,
if
you
have
any
critical
questions
in
terms
of
understanding
what
they're
trying
to
do,
please
ask
them
now.
A
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
steer
the
questions
in
the
direction
of
this
becoming
a
a
project
of
the
community
projects
right
and
so
just
you
know
to
our
visitors,
the
the
kinds
of
questions
you're
going
to
get
are
around
standardization
and
ethereum
and
whatever,
because
that's
that's
what
this
group
tends
to
focus
and
so
don't
be
surprised
when
we
start
going
in
that
direction,
rather
than
just
asking.
C
That's
exactly
I
think
where
the
most
of
the
effort
should
go
to,
because
if
we
talk
about
blockchain
people
usually
consider
it
as
a
product.
But
if
we
talk
about
integrating
the
web
and
all
of
the
websites
uses
tokens,
then
then
it's
no
longer
like
and
my
blockchain
is
better
your
blockchain
scenario.
It's
like
people
has
there
has
to
be
a
way
to
standardize
it.
So
apps
can
integrate
to
as
many
tokens
as
they
wish
to
and
new
tokens
can
get
onboarded
easily
right.
A
Perhaps
we
could
go,
perhaps
we
could
scroll
down
to
the
sections
where
it's
not
describing
the
the
project,
but
maybe
a
little
bit
lower
where
you
know
we
ask
about
who
would
be
involved
and
things
like
that,
because
those
are
the
ones
that
yeah
so
Okay.
So
just
okay,
you
too
far
come
back
up.
A
Let's
look
at
say:
question:
okay,
keep
going
up
project
contribution
to
the
goals;
yeah,
okay,
I'm,
sorry!
So
number,
six!
Let's
start
with
question
number
six.
A
So
so
the
reason
you're
saying
to
host
is
to
is
to
get
knowledge
and
people
with
is
to
be
get
people
with
domain
knowledge
so
understand
that
the
goal
here
of
the
community
projects
is
to
provide
a
standardization
point
where
you'll
actually
write
standard
specifications
so
that
multiple
entities
can
conform
to
the
standard.
So
it's
not
just
about
one
implementation,
it's
about
making
sure
that
others
can
Implement
to
it
as
well.
A
So
the
goal
should
you
know
so
what
we
normally
see
is
you
know
you're
bringing
it
here
because
you
want
to
you
want
to
actually
develop
a
standard,
and
so
it
sounds
more
like
you're
you're,
seeking
input
on
your
project
right
now
than
seeking
to
develop
a
standards.
So
maybe
you
could
talk
to
that
a
little
bit.
C
Yeah,
so
so
to
answer
that
question
you
are
right
and
we
should
we
should
change.
We
should
update
this
paragraph,
but
to
give
you
a
bit
of
background,
we
have
started
this
exploration
since
four
years
ago,
when
I
was
working.
The
bank
as
well
at
this
current
startup
and
I,
came
to
realize
the
difficulty
of
getting
it
right,
so
I
think
it
will.
C
It
will
be
a
project
of
several
years
to
standardize
it
and
the
websites
start
to
be
able
to
deploy,
deploy,
issuers
and
websites
start
to
deploy
code
and
the
wallets
have
their
own
implementation.
So
we
are
not
entirely
sure
if
we
are
getting
it
right,
because
we
don't
know
the
underlying
business
model
of
token
script.
It's
not
like
a
Microsoft
Word.
We
already
know
what
we
want
as
our
end
result.
We
just
don't
we
just.
We
just
need
to
standardize
it,
so
everybody
can
play
on
the
same
field
as
Microsoft
Word.
C
So
in
the
in
the
in
the
long
term
there
are,
there
are
a
few
in
the
long
term
I'm
talking
about
a
few
years
in
the
in
the
future.
There
should
be
a
runtime,
a
specific
specification
so
that
browsers
and
and
platforms
such
as
Samsung
mobile
phone
maker
can
make
runtime
environment
for
token
and
specification
for
the
file
format
and
specification
for
the
test.
Edition
scheme
world's
attestation
is
a
component.
We
realize
that
is
needed
for
tokens
to
work.
C
For
example,
if
you
have
a
car,
the
the
repair
record
will
not
be
stored
on
a
blockchain,
because
it's
sensitive
and
too
much
data
and
they
will
be
issued
as
a
test
station
quickly
signed
a
message
to
go
with
the
token.
So
that
has
to
be
standardized
in
schema
format.
Okay,.
E
E
Independent
of
any
other
or
you
know
within
within
the
context
of
of
of
of
of
other
applications.
Is
that
is
that
really
what
what
it
is?
Yes,
so
then,
then,
then
I
think
that
is
sort
of
like
the
the
the
essence
of
that.
So
you
want
to
write
a
specification
for
a
token
runtime
environment
that
allows
that
allows
Apple,
that
that
allows
token
functionality
to
be
to
be
executed
by
other
applications
right.
C
E
Yeah
so
like
Tre
right,
so
it's
it's
it's
it's
so
I
understand
so,
but
I
I'm
trying
to
abstract
this
out
into
sort
of
like
a
standard
and
rather
than
having
you
know,
a
runtime
environment
for
Unity,
or
something
like
that.
It's
like,
or
you
know
you.
You
wanted
to
find
a
specifications
for
token
runtime
environments
in
different
contexts,
for
the
browser
of
the
mobile,
the
unit
or
for
for
game
engines
right.
E
E
If
I
want
to
build
something
like
token
script
to
run
in
a
you
know,
so
that
I
have
to
get
so
the
token
functionality
executes
properly
in
a
browser
right.
It's
like
it's
like
what
you
know.
What
do
I
need
to
what
do
I
need
to
build.
So
how
can
I
ensure
that
that
you
know
if
it
says,
Tre,
it
actually
executes
Theory
right?
So
it's
that
that
that
that
that
that
sort
of
thing
and
I
think
that
that
that
is
a
that
makes
sense.
E
So
it's
rather
than
getting
feedback
on
a
project,
it's
more
as
like.
Can
we
Define
runtime
environments
for
token
functionalities
right,
given
that
there
are
no
token
standards,
so
that
that's?
But
you
don't,
you
know
there
are.
No,
you
know,
Java
is
just
a
with
the
Java
runtime
environment
is,
is
still
the
standardized
thing,
so
yeah
I'm
just
trying
to
then
I'm
just
trying
to
tease
out
here
the
the
I
think
you
understand
what
I'm.
A
Trying
I
think
what
you're
getting
at
is
that
there's.
This
is
not
a
project,
a
standardized
token
script.
This
is
a
project
for
standardize,
the
runtimes
for
tokens.
It's
like
the
difference
between
you're
trying
to
write,
Java
or
you're,
trying
to
write
what
are
the.
What
is
the?
What
are
the
requirements
for
a
Java
runtime
engine?
Those
are
different
things
right.
C
A
Right
and
how
open
are
you
to
adjustments
in
token
script.
C
Okay,
we
so
you
see
what
we
have
as
as
codebase
all
the
experiments
we
did
with
the
token
years
for
years
is
only
a
small
piece
of
wood
and
needed
for
for
the
for
the
tokenized
web
to
work
and
I
think
we
are
well
we're
only
an
earlier
stage
so
put
in
This
way.
Everything
is
adjustable
because
we
don't
know
what
the
final
product
will
be,
but
it's
important
to
standardize
it
even
at
this
early
stage,
because
it's
not
a
product,
it's
an
interconnecting
component-
and
this
has.
C
So
so
we
need
to
be
really
humble
about
it.
This
is
this
really
is.
This
is
the
big
thing
that
if
it
makes
it,
it
makes
our
breaks
if
it
if
it
works,
it
will
be.
You
know,
people
can
say,
blockchain
have
a
utility
value,
because
this
is
how
it
works.
So
how
many
people
know
about
blockchain?
Even
experts
don't
know
about
blockchain,
because
who
can
tell
me
what
is
the
blood
use
of
blockchain
so
so
yeah?
We
are
very
humble
about
this.
We
add
any
phase
changeable.
C
E
Yeah
I
think
I
think
that's
it's
I
was
just
trying
to
you
know
it's
like
tease
out
what,
where,
where
this,
how
this
could
be
framed
properly
in
a
way
that
makes
makes,
makes
sense,
and
it's
a
bit
more
General,
understood.
A
I
think
there's
probably
some
re
reworking
of
the
of
the
description
of
this
project
that
may
be
needed,
but
I
want
to
get
to
a
couple
of
other
questions
that
are
that
are
some
meta
questions,
so
you
know
you
have
a
repo
already
with
with
it.
Where
is
it
hosted
now,
I
mean
what
it
sort
of?
What
is
the
status
of
what
you
have
so
far?
You
listed
some
places
where
some
repos,
where
things
live
but
I'm,
just
wondering
kind
of
what
is
the?
C
Know
what
you
started
already,
so
we
in
2018
we
thought
this
project.
The
idea
of
tokenizing
web
is
something
easy,
because
the
first,
the
first
time
it
was
done,
is
like
JavaScript
HTML,
and
it
was
done
over
in
a
month.
So
I
thought
the
second
time.
It
would
be
easy
too.
So
at
that
time
we
quickly
ramped
up
a
a
format,
an
XML
based
format
that
is
extendable
in
certain
ways
and
to
support
a
few
token
use
cases
such
as
a
token
based
event
tickets.
C
We
did
the
FIFA
ticket
and
token
based
and
experiments,
and
we
went.
We
saw
this
technology
around
the
vendors
and
we
realized
that
then
to
make
it
right.
It
takes
a
lot
more
effort.
The
the
code
base
was
largely
the
result
of
experimentation
and
upper
wallet
implementation
of
this
experimental
standard.
Now
we
don't
call
the
standard
anymore,
because
we
know
we
are
pretty
far
away
from
that
experimental
thing.
A
recommendation
or
whatever
the
code
base
is
what
is
left
of
the
2018-2019
attempt
to
standardize
it
and
embed
provide
a
reference.
C
Implementation
of
a
wallet,
however,
in
2020
and
2020
wasn't,
was
a
D5
year
and
and
people
don't
talk
about
web
much
and
then
we
have
nft
where
the
users
are
mostly
immediately
interested
in.
You
know
how
to
render
to
display
token
and
how
to
buy
and
sell
them.
So
we,
we
have
learned,
learned
a
lot
about
tokens,
but
we
didn't
update
the
code
base,
so
it's
a
little
bit
stale.
So
right
now
the
code
base
contains
a
XML
stand.
C
Xml
schema
contains
about
100,
also
tokens
groups
written
in
that
schema
contains
a
javascript-based
and
a
runtime
environment
with
poorly
written
or
non-existent
specification
for
the
runtime
environment,
which
is
basically
what
is
given
in
code
is,
is
the
thing
and
and
yeah.
That's
that's
what
we
have
okay
and
the
document,
which
is
largely
based
on
the
on
the
idea
why
we
need
to
use
token
script
and
why
it's
important
to
have
tips.
A
Okay,
so
you
have
basically
you
you
had
an
initial
prototype
running,
you
know
it.
The
documentation
is
not
up
to
date
with
that.
The
implementation
needs
more
updating
and
the
documentation
as
well.
C
All
the
existing
documents
are
conceptual
like
and
what
what
token
would
enable
and
how
websites
might
use
token
and
stuff
like
that
and
why
they
might
need
to
runtime
environment.
A
A
Yeah,
okay,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure,
because
that's
how
it's
that's,
how
we
normally
do
it
for
projects,
let's
see
so
with
respect
to
involving
others.
A
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
noticed
it
looked,
you
know
throughout
the
document
as
if
again,
this
is
just
a
rough
view
throughout
what
you
wrote
as
if
you
sort
of
view
the
primary
contributors
right
now
and
you
don't
you
don't
really,
you
haven't
really
had
others
contributing
necessarily
it's
not
clear
anyway,
and
so
one
of
the
questions
we.
B
A
Is
who
all
is
participating
from
other
organizations?
We
actually
need?
You
know
we're
looking
to
see
how
many
organizations
might
participate.
C
And
we
do
have
collaboration.
These
people
largely
have
something
to
do
with
us
in
either
because
of
business,
not
because
of
the
associations.
So,
for
example,
Aquos
University
was
was
involved
in
the
in
the
cryptography
based
on
testation,
and
we
have
the
vendors
involved
in
creating
the
the
tokens
that
suicide
yeah
I'm
busy,
but
Usman.
That's
not.
Okay,.
C
Oh
yeah,
don't
worry
I
will
do
it
for
you
later
so
so
so
we
have
vendors
and
which,
for
example,
the
car
company
which
contributed
in
a
way
of
providing
us
with
use
cases
and
and
work
with
our
engineer
and
creating
early
prototypes
for
those
we,
we
have
a
Lewis
collaboration
with
Huawei,
but
it
didn't
work
in
the
out
in
the
end
because
they
believed
in
the
vision
for
a
while
and
when
the
market
cooled
down.
They
don't
believe
it
anymore.
So
so
anyway,
that's
the
the
collaboration.
C
We
have
what
we
don't
have
heavily.
We
have
a
bit
of
communication
to
community
support,
but
we
don't
have
much
and
the
reason
we
don't
have
much.
Community
Support,
like
a
free
like
a
self-employed,
open
source
developers.
The
reason
we
don't
have
much
of
their
support
is
because
they
don't
see
the
need
for
tokenizing
until
very
recently.
C
So
if
you
talk
about
like
having
a
tokenized
the
car
and
you
can
rent
the
car
to
someone,
it
was
pretty
not
considered
as
typical
blockchain
story
and
then
and
and
any
normal
developer,
who
my
meat
on
Devcon,
for
example.
If
I
talk
about
this
with
them,
there
were
things
they
were
same
thing.
It
sounds
like
something
you
will
find
find
a
company
to
do
and
right
now,
I'm
interested
in
doing
that.
C
A
Okay,
if
you
scroll
down
to
the
current
project
maintainer,
so
this
is
this
is
again
getting
at
the
same
notion
of
you
know
who
has
been
involved
where
they're
from
and
so
I
I
think
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
we're
always
looking
for
is
to
make
sure
that
any
project
that
starts
has
multiple
different
entities
working
on
it,
because
if
it's
just
you
it's
not
a
standard
right,
I've
heard
yes
yeah.
A
So
so
one
of
the
things
that
we'd
be
looking
for
in
here
I
think
a
little
bit
more
than
we
see.
Right
now
is
who
are
the
other
organizations
that
you
would
want?
You
would
expect
to
reach
out
to
assuming
the
work
comes
here?
A
Who
are
the
other
organizations
that
you
would
want
to
try
to
bring
on
to
do
this
work
and
in
particular,
normally
we
have
a
requirement
of
of
having
several
organizations
actually
I
forget
whether
the
number
is
three
or
five
now
in
order
to
start,
and
the
reason
for
this
is
that
you
know
companies
will
will
be
excited
when
they
start
and
then
they
may
drop
off,
and
we
still,
we
don't
ever
want
to
be
in
a
situation
where
it
ends
up
with
one
company
defining
it.
That's
a
failure.
Standards
perspective.
C
It's
also
a
failure
from
my
perspective,
so
I
totally
agree
with
that.
The
company
we,
what
we
want
to
onboard
generally
I
mean,
is
categories
number
one
industry
associations
which
might
help
standardize
in
token
hot
token
work
in
their
industry.
They
might
have
a
view
of
how
how
tokens
should
work,
for
example,
Airline
points
they
might
have
a
view
that
there
should
be
a
balance.
C
For
the
token,
even
if
you
don't
specify,
there's
a
balance,
there
should
be
numeric
thing
that
can
support
it
and
when
it's
needed
and
the
second
being
the
the
vendors,
especially
the
software
vendors,
especially
I.T
software
and
Hardware
vendors,
especially
browser
and
mobile
phone,
so
I'm
looking
at
Samsung,
because
apple
is
helpless
here
and
then
I'm
looking
at
Chrome
or
Firefox
to
get
a
bit
of
help
from
them.
C
C
So
the
the
the
the
other
party
we
want
to
approach
are
the
actual
issuers
of
tokens
such
as
an
ape
issue
years.
They
want
to
see
how
to
build
ecosystem
and
we
want
tokens
to
work
with
that
and
and
finally
the
gain
in
a
community.
So
that's
that's
the
one
from
my
perspective
I
should
reach
out
to.
Maybe
there
are
standardized
organizations.
I
should
talk
to,
but
I'm
I'm
ignorant
about
that
foreign.
B
A
Okay,
we
will
be
sending
you
some,
you
know
some
sort
of
formal
feedback,
I
say
formal.
A
It's
just
going
to
be
something
that
says:
hey
we'd
like
to
see
this
in
the
charter
you
know
and
so
on,
and
what
we
just
talked
about
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
probably
is
going
to
come
as
a
as
a
request
to
show
up
in
the
charter
proposal,
and
one
part
of
it
will
be
a
discussion
about
how
much
we
want
you
how
much
work
we
we
want
to
see
you
do
getting
those
commitments
before
we
take
the
project
on
just
to
make
sure
that
there's
enough
support
right,
we're
not
saying
everybody,
but
there
may
be
a
minimum
of
three
to
five
somewhere
in
there.
A
A
A
C
So
so
I
I
completely
agree.
I,
absolutely,
don't
feel
that
you
are
twisting
my
heart
at
all,
so
we
we
originally
we're
originally
2018.
When
we
started
the
first
round
demonstrating
car
talk
and
stuff,
we
really
actively
got
a
lot
of
people
coming
in,
but
then
there
was
crypto
winter
and
people
dropped
out.
So
we
just
so
so
so
like
we
always
have
this
aptitude
attitude,
but
it's
just
then
some
of
the
players
we
used
to
work
don't
even
exist
now.
So
now
we
have
to
do
the
gate.
Yeah.
A
I
I
understand
that
problem.
Okay,
so
though
one
other
question
that
I
need
to
ask
is
that
we
are
the
EA
Community
projects
and
our
I
think
the
way
we've
described
it
is
ethereum,
first,
not
ethereum
only,
but
what
that
means
is
you
know
we
do
it.
It's
very
important
to
us
that
that
we
see
people
with
a
plan
to
deploy
on
or
support
ethereum.
You
know
now
you're
talking
about
tokens
in
general.
So
is
there
something
you
can
you
can
say
other
than
just
well?
A
Of
course
ethereum
will
benefit
like
everybody
will
benefit,
because
if
that's
true
then
then
we
could
ask
whether
we're
the
right
Organization
for
it.
C
Okay,
yeah
yeah,
okay,
so
the
way
I
see
it
is
and
ethereum
created
the
model
of
center
of
trust
through
smart
tokens.
But
it
has
to
find
these
use
cases
and
you
might
you
might
say:
okay,
maybe
other
other
blockchains
have
the
same
same
needs.
But
that's
that's
how
our
project
got
started.
I,
I,
don't
know
how,
because.
A
The
need
you
saw
in
the
ethereum
space,
even
though,
even
though
others
may
have
the
need
as
well.
C
Yes,
but
the
major
need
is
that
you
cannot
produce
a
trust
Center
without
providing
the
integration
to
all
of
the
websites
to
to
go
to
it
and
I.
It's
just
something
that
is
on
the
way.
Actually
I
think
it's
crucial
something
on
the
way
for
for
ethereum
to
be
as
useful
as,
for
example,
when
you
see
jet
engine
is
useful
because
it
takes
passengers
to
the
sky.
Ethereum
has
to
be
used
for
not
not
for
just
being
very
trustworthy.
It
has
to
use
that
to
do
something
sure.
A
Sure,
okay,
excellent
I,
I
think
from
I'll
just
say
from
our
perspective.
If,
if
the
first
examples
you
use
to
demonstrate
this
aren't
erc20
tokens,
you
know,
but
there
are
there's
something
else
from
on
some
other
network,
then
we'd
probably
be
a
little.
You
know
sort
of
grumpy
at
like
you
know,
okay,
why
are
you
starting
there?
A
That's
that's
the
kind
of
thing
I'm
getting
at
so
I
I,
don't
think
you're
going
that
way,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you
understand
that
you
know
we
we're
fans
of
ethereum,
okay
and
but
we're
practical.
We
know
that
the
world
is
a
multi-chain
world
and
will
be,
but
but
we
always
need
for
for
the
projects
that
we
we
bring
on
to
to
have
a
a
strong
justification.
A
A
Okay,
I
mean
obviously
I
told
you
what
answer
I
was
looking
for,
but
but
that's
a
but
that's
a,
but
that's
a
solid
answer
right.
So,
okay,
any
questions
from
anyone
else.
I've
been
asking
a
lot
of
questions
here.
C
I'm
sorry
yeah,
so
so
I
I
guess
like
I
want
to
know.
If,
if
we
start
this
will
we
get
let's
say
maybe
overseas
page
on
this
program,
so
people
can
watch
progress
there
and
maybe
join
calls
from
there.
I
mean
as
a
facility.
A
D
Sorry,
I'd
sorry
I
just
missed
the
first
bit
of
the
of
the
question.
Why
could
you
we
could,
you
repeat
so.
C
So
we'll
Oasis
work
similar,
for
example,
like
genome
Foundation,
where
the
project
gets
a
web
page
that
listens
the
current
communication
yeah.
D
D
To
join
this
course,
yes,
so
so
we
it
is,
it
is
basically
up
to
the
project
if
they
want
that.
But
yes,
we
can
provide
a
web
page
with
the
charter
with
a
Blog.
It's
there's
things
that
are
up
to
the
community
to
provide,
but
we
can
discuss
that
in
more
detail.
But
if
you
I
can
send
you
a
couple
of
examples
on
via
email,
so
you
can
check
that
out
our
projects,
The
Oasis
project,
some
as
part
of
the
EA
Community
projects,
but
other
Oasis
projects
as
well.
D
A
Excellent
any
other
questions
either
from
you
guys
or
from
pgb
members.
E
Yeah
I
was
just
questioning
what
what
what
other
sdos,
since
you
mentioned,
that
are,
you
are
you
targeting
to
to
to
get
into
the
mix.
E
As
as
potential
supporters
like
anything
around
like
Mobility
or
telecommunications,
or
or
insurance
or
banking
or.
E
C
Okay,
so
excuse
me
right,
okay,
so
so,
for
example,
we
would
okay
I'm
going
to
speak
from
my
you
know,
and
my
my
knowledge
is
not
great,
especially.
Let
me,
let's
see
from
what
I
would
immediately
ask
them.
Okay,
I
would
ask,
for
example,
this
is
how
we
envision
tire
insurance
as
a
token
would
work,
and
that
would
work
on
this
website
on
that
website.
Our
auction
website
on
on
on
the
car
service
website,
you
use
the
insurance
to
get
car
service.
C
This
is
how
we
envision
it
should
work,
but
the
industrial
industrial
people
will
say
probably
say:
that's
not
how
it
would
work
and
we
cannot
stand
it
in
that
way
and
then
we
so
so
that's
the
reason.
I
need
a
a
I
need
to
feel
the
need
for
top
for,
for
including
the
industry
standard
about
the
industries
associations,
but
which
industry
I'm
not
entirely
sure
I.
Think
at
first
tokenization
will
benefit
something
similar
to
Airline
points.
Royalty
program.
C
I
think
these
people
will
be
the
industry
industry
associations
will
be
talking
most
with,
but
eventually
everything's
smart
they're
like
like
car
or
door,
or
a
smart
vending
machine
and
anything
that
users
that
holds
have
value.
There
might
be
a
Industries
Association
who
who
will
know
better
how
to
organization
would
affect
their
industry
and
we
hope
to
fix
something
early
on.
Instead
of
learning
and
regret,
we
didn't
do
it
properly.
A
C
Yes,
we
are
not
going
to
say
that,
okay,
these
are
the
standard
fields
to
be
in
the
car
insurance
token.
We
are
going
to
only
to
say:
will
this
work
and
then-
and
if
you
want,
if
your
industry
body
will
want
to
Define
their
industry
token,
like
the
fields
like
how
how
to
get
a
car
insurance
for
the
car,
they
can
do
their
work,
they
will
standardize
their
theirs.
We
cannot
standardize
on
the
industry
level.
A
Right,
okay,
so
you're,
just
saying
that
you
know
you
will
you
will
liaise
with
other
industry
alliances
as
appropriate
for
the
specific
domains
that
have
domain
knowledge
that
that
you
need
in
order
to
make
sure
that
this
is.
This
is
complete
enough
in
functionality,
yes
and
and
works
properly
for
them.
Okay,
excellent!
A
All
right,
I'm
gonna
need
to
wrap
up
here,
because
I've
got
a
few,
a
few
things
to
do
with
the
pgb
So
and
I've
already
got
people
telling
me
they
have
to
leave
so
I
want
to
say.
Thank
you
very
much
for
spending
this
time
with
us.
I
understand
this
much
better
than
I
did
before
and
understand
sort
of
your
motivations
and
directions
and
and
and
goals
here,
I
I'll
need
to
talk
with
my
co-chair,
who
wasn't
able
to
attend
today.
A
I
wish
we
had
recorded
this
session
ourselves
because
it
would
really
help
him
a
lot
in
understanding
it.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
that
actually
will
be
really
helpful.
I'm
sure
he'll
find
it
fascinating
and
and
and
really
helpful.
So
you
might
not
get
feedback
from
us
as
the
chairs
until
next
week.
When
he's
back.
A
That's
not
a
lack
of
interest,
just
letting
you
know
he's
physically
out
of
out
of
town
for
the
weekend.
I
want
to
make
sure
to
check
with
him,
but
you
may
get
feedback
from
some
other
pgb
members
directly.
A
A
Thank
you
so
much
pgb
members,
please
stay
on.