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December 1, 2014 - St Charles County, Missouri Council Meeting
A
B
A
C
A
A
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E
A
E
F
F
Well,
the
plat's
coming
for
tonight
for
approval.
There's
been
one
issue:
it's
when
we
submitted
our
plat,
we
were
asked
to
dedicate
a
30-foot
right-of-way
along
highway
inn.
I
met
with
mr
graves,
who,
with
traffic
he
said
that
was
part
of
modot's
future
plan
through
highway
inn.
I
met
with
modot
modot,
then
sent
me
an
email.
That
said,
they
did
not
need
that
30
foot
right
away,
so
we
thought
that
was
kind
of
put
to
bed.
F
F
A
A
A
A
G
C
H
I
The
the
ordinance
provides
for
a
an
administrative
waiver
of
the
requirements
of
the
natural
buffer
strip,
that
is,
a
strip,
varies
depending
upon
what
stream
you're
on
from
a
25
25-foot
buffer
to
a
50-foot
buffer
that
was
intended,
or
that
the
provision
is
intended
to
be
a
space
that
will
allow
vegetation
to
stabilize
an
area
where
a
stream
runs
through
and
gives
gives
the
roots
an
area
place
to
grow
and
and
try
to
stabilize
it.
It
is
also
it
was
originally
also
put
in
place
to
try
to,
as
runoff
would
pass
through
that
buffer
zone.
I
What
mr
brazel
is
wanting
to
do
with
this
ordinance
is
provide
an
administrative
buffer
or
an
administrative
variance
which
would
allow
accessory
structures
to
be
located
within
that
buffer
zone
if
they
were,
if
the
area
was
3,
acres
or
less
in
size
that
the
lot
or
subdivision
existed
prior
to
january
2002,
and
that
it's
already
improved
with
structures
which
existed
prior
to
that
january
2002
date.
I
think
that
that
date
precedes
the
time
frame
that
the
buffer
strip
was
originally
created.
I
It
is,
I
have
a
hard
time
saying
it's
a
good
idea
or
it's
a
bad
idea,
because
it's
relatively
minor
in
scope-
and
so
I
hate
to
see
people
playing
with
that
buffer
zone.
To
I
mean
if,
if,
if
it's
intent,
if,
if
we
wanted
to
do
what
it's
supposed
to
do,
we
should
be
trying
to
preserve
it
as
much
as
possible.
I
H
A
A
A
K
K
I
H
To
be
really
narrow,
because
you
know
most
of
the
county
incorporated
county-
has
three
acre
lots
for
septic
reasons.
Okay,
so
there's
just
a
very
few
public
sewer
systems
around
this
would
have
so
I
mean
it
has
to
it
can't
be
too
many
applications
for
this
particular
build,
except
except
maybe
with
this
one.
In
mr
brazil's
district,
I.
I
A
E
M
E
E
H
J
J
I
mean
what's
what's
allowable
and
what's
not
allowable
and
how
how
bright
can
it
be?
And
you
know
I
just
I
just
we
think
we
need
to
be
careful
generally,
not
not
just
on
this,
but
you
know:
there's
people
out.
There
would
basically
want
us
to
pass
regulations,
so
we
can
fight
their
fights
for
them,
and
if
this
is
a
nuisance,
they
they
have
legitimate
private
nuisance
actions.
They
can
file
against
their
neighbor,
so
not
not
to
discourage
you,
but
just
think
about
that.
J
How
much
further
do
we
want
to
go
with
these
types
of
things?
We
got
the
the
one
situation.
I
know
out
there
with
the
surface
water
that's
been
around
for
years.
I
think
it's
in
your
district,
isn't
it
john,
and
you
know
it's
just
one
of
those
deals
either
side
could
go
to
court,
make
the
other
do
what
they
wanted
to
do,
but
they're
trying
to
bring
us
into
it
and
regulate
surface
water
between
two
lots
and
again,
if
you
want.
M
J
A
A
F
A
F
I
think
my
point
to
the
discussion.
Is
they
don't
have
plans?
They
don't
have
a
currently
any
real
idea
of
what's
going
to
happen
within,
and
I
understand
that
something
will
have
to
happen
with
highway
inn
at
some
point,
but
we
we
currently
have
a
30-foot
right-of-way.
Now
we
also
have
a
25-foot
setback
required
by
the
county.
That's
55
feet
on
each
side.
F
You
add
the
other
55
feet
to
the
other
side,
you're
talking
about
110
feet
of
highway
that
could
be
built
between
setback
to
setback
at
12
foot
of
lane.
That's
over
nine
lanes
that
could
be
built
through
there
under
the
current
without
the
30
foot
dedication.
I
think
to
me
it
feels
like
an
overreach
of
well.
Let's
just
require
30
feet
because.
E
E
F
A
H
If
you
have
unbelievable
straightforward
with
you,
if
you
want
my
support
on
this,
you
got
to
work
out
that
right
away
issues.
Okay,
I'm
just
I
mean,
there's
no
you're
going
to
add
traffic
to
that
roadway.
That
roadway
is
going
to
need
you
to
expand
down
the
road.
These
are
farm
to
market
roads.
They
weren't
designed
about
the
amount
of
traffic,
so
I
mean
there's
wentzville
brings
up
the
issues
with
right-of-way,
so
does
our
transportation
director?
F
Out
I
have
sat
down
with
with
wentzville
and
with
john
graves
who,
with
the
county,
the
original
meeting
we
had,
which
this
is
how
this
all
came
about.
The
original
meeting
we
had
was
john
gravesu
with
the
county
had
said
that
well
modot's
going
to
require
the
right-of-way,
and
I
said:
well,
it's
modot's
right
of
way
should
we
meet
with
them.
Let
them
determine
what
what
is
we
showed
them
our
plans?
They
came,
we
sat
down
and
met
with
them,
showed
them
the
plans.
F
They
then
gave
us
the
email
that
you
see
in
front
of
you.
That
said,
we're
not
going
to
require
the
30
foot
dedication
on
highway
in
in
that
area
then
later-
and
I
don't
remember
the
date
of
that
email,
but
this
email
that
I
just
read-
you
was
on
november,
the
18th
and
when
talking
to
modot
their
answer
was
that
wentzville
and
the
county
had
contacted
them
and
said
that
no
we
want
the
30-footer
right
away.
F
I
think
my
point
is,
I
understand
what
you're
saying
and-
and
I
think
we
all
agree-
that
highway
inn
will
have
to
have
some
future
upgrades.
What
we're
talking
about
with
30
footer,
right
away
from
center
line,
plus
25
foot,
a
setback,
there's
55
foot
on
either
side
before
you
get
to
a
parking
lot,
it's
110
feet!
That's
a
lot
of
lanes
of
traffic.
So
to
give
another
30
feet
on
each
side.
Is
another
five
lanes
worth
of
asphalt.
A
But
we
also
don't
want
development
right
up
to
the
the
edge
of
of
the
pavement
either,
and
it's
that
setback.
You
can't
really
count
that
as
being
lanes
of
traffic
to
use
to
use
your
terminology.
It's
I
understand
we
want
buildings
to
be
a
certain
distance
off
of
the
off
of
the
right
off
of
the
road
agreed.
F
E
You
know
I'm
want
to
encourage
the
development
and
along
and
I'm
supportive
of
that,
but
it's
not
unusual
for
a
community
to
ask
for
right
away
at
the
time
when
somebody
plants
the
property,
that's
the
actually
the
proper
time
for
future
growth,
which
future
growth
would
not
only
help
the
county
but
also
support
the
businesses
that
are
developed
there.
So
it's
not
unusual
for
for
the
county
or
any
of
the
cities
to
ask
for
30
foot
of
right
away
at
the
time
when
a
property
is
being
planted.
H
F
Currently,
as
its
design,
my
other
problem,
if,
if
we
were
looking
at
the
site
plan,
my
other
problem
is
this:
this
property
is
not
real.
Deep
behind
this
property
is
residential.
The
grade
comes
from
the
residential
up
at
three
to
one
and
then
to
our
property
line.
Basically,
I
share
the
property
with
with
the
residents
I
already
have
to
have
20
foot
of
buffer
beyond
the
property
line
and
I'm
building
a
35
27
foot
tall
building,
so
I'm
setting
up
10
feet
above
those
houses
plus
another
27
feet.
F
F
F
That
and
my
current
grading
issue,
it
drops
off
about
eight
or
nine
feet
down
to
the
property
at
a
three
to
one
slope.
So
the
further
I
get
back
to
that
property
line.
The
20
foot
buffer
doesn't
bother
me
too
bad,
because
I
need
that
area
to
grade
anyway,
but
the
closer
I
get
back
there,
the
more
that
grading
issue
is
going
to
be
because
I'm
already
eight
feet
below
highway
inn.
Currently
you.
A
Can
well
imagine,
though,
how
much
it
pains
the
council
to
have
to
buy
right
away
for
roads
as
a
as
things
progress.
I
do
when
you
know
you're
like
well.
I
wish
a
council
before
us
had
had
set
aside
a
little
bit
more
more
land
for
for
roads
as
our
as
our
county
continues
to
grow,
and
this
is
a
growing
area.
So
it's
I.
I
do.
F
But
I
also
realize
that
they're
60
foot
of
right
of
way
there
currently
at
12
foot
a
lane.
I
think
that's
going
to
be
considerable
to
quite
honestly.
You
have-
and
I
don't
know
how
much
you
know
the
area,
but
it's
right
at
dwello
road,
where
the
s-curve
is
pretty
tight
through
hopewell
and
dwello
road.
F
The
reality
of
it
is
that
needs
a
fairly
major
change
in
something
anyway
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
raise
that
to
55
miles
an
hour
with
that
tight
of
a
curve
through
there
and
our
a
year
ago,
when
I
bought
the
property,
the
owner,
who
was
selling
the
property,
obviously
had
met
with
modot
and
the
original
idea-
and
I
assume
may
still
be.
The
idea
was
to
come
on
the
other
side
of
the
road
and
try
to
smooth
out
the
curve.
F
Basically-
and
I
think
that's
my
problem
is
if-
and
I
when
I
met
with
modot
when
I
met
with
john
graves,
who
I
said,
what
is
the
plan?
If
anybody
has
an
idea
what
the
plan
is,
if
I
need
to
give
up
seven
feet
or
nine
feet
or
11
feet
or
14
feet
or
29
feet,
I'd
like
to
see
what
that
is,
and
then
I
would
consider
doing
that.
The
problem
is:
there's
no
plan,
so
I'm
going
to
give
30
feet
of
new
right
of
way,
plus
the
25
feet,
setback
and
20
years
from
now.
A
D
A
J
We
were
moving,
I
think
john,
will
tell
you.
We
were
moving
forward
and
anticipated.
We
might
even
have
a
plan
for
all
this
by
now,
but
in
august,
when
the,
when
the
tax
increase
failed,
modot
just
took
the
position
well,
they're
not
doing
any
anything
new
and
I
think
they're
taking
that
position
because
they
want
base
to
show
people.
They
really
don't
have
any
money
so
yeah
this.
J
A
M
M
Everything
that
you
see
in
color
is
property
that
has
been
donated
or
dedicated
or
put
into
a
reserve
strip
through
the
plat
process,
whether
it
be
a
property
within
the
unincorporated
county
or
through
a
city
whether
it
be
o'fallon
or
lake
st
louis.
So
you
can
see
from
64
out
towards
the
property
that
the
gentleman
is
referring
to.
Is
this
blue
piece
here
which
you'll
see
I'll,
explain
why
why
that's
in
blue
all
of
those
properties,
whether
whether
either
side
of
the
road
it
is
has
set
aside?
M
The
gentleman
mentioned
that
when
he
made
his
first
contact
with
modot
that
they
initially
said,
we
we're
not
going
to
require
that
30
foot
and
I
speculate
from
my
conversations
with
the
modot
afterwards.
Is
that
they've
had
a
lot
of
turnover
since
2005
and
they
just
forgot
and
then
when
we
referred
to,
you
know,
remember
our
third
for
plan.
Remember
the
statewide
corridor
plan
that
we
worked
back
on
in
2005.,
I
mean
to
be
truthful
and
with
the
recession
we
haven't
had
that
many
new
site
plans
in
the
last
few
years.
M
M
Dedication
need,
as
we
all
know,
as
you've
brought
into
attention
that
we
need
to
preserve
the
ability
to
widen
the
road,
even
if
there
may
not
be
a
specific
plan
on
hand
providing
that
basic
right-of-way
helps
us
at
least
have
the
ability
to
widen
the
road
and
not
have
to
buy
about
buy-out
parking
spots.
The
gentleman
mentioned
setback.
You
know,
that's
obviously
set
back
from
the
roadway
to
his
parking
lot.
That's
not
where
you
want
to
build
your
lanes
of
pavement.
H
M
H
That
gentleman,
I
understand
his
concerns
about
moving
this
the
building
too
far
back,
but
could
he
not
apply?
This
would
be
question
for
wayne
too.
Could
he
not
just
apply
for
a
variance
on
that
setback?
I
mean.
Do
we
really
if
we've
got
the
additional
30
foot
of
right
away?
Couldn't
we
have
his
parking
lot?
Be
five
foot
from
that
right
away?
It's
a
25
foot.
H
We
knew
would
that
maybe
would
that
that
would
that
be
a
problem
with
that
that
would
accommodate
him
and
also
accommodate
the
you
know
the
right
way,
I'm
just
just
just
asking
okay
and
that's,
I
guess
part
of
the
process.
I
have
a
hard
time
coming
from
a
city
to
go
into
county.
When
I
was
on
planet.
Zoning
is
most
the
time
with
a
city
rezoning
application
mike
you
might.
I
don't
know
if
st
charles
does
it,
but
you
always
saw
a
site
plan
with
that
rezoning
they
applied
the
same
time.
H
I
I
I
A
I
H
If
you
look
at
the
municipality,
you
look
at
downtown
o'fallon,
where
my
business
is
there's
no
buffer.
I
mean
the
commercial
buildings
are
right
up
there
and
the
parking
lots
are
right
up
on
the
roadway,
I'm
just
thinking.
If
we
took
that
buffer
and
dropped
it
down
to
10
foot
and
gained
15
feet
there
and
then
maybe
he
gives
up
another
15
feet.
Maybe
that
would
work
for
you
well.
I
It
is
based
upon
a
plan
and
that's
the
thoroughfare
plan
where
all
of
these
entities
were
brought
together
and
john
did
a
lot
of
leg
work
in
getting
everybody
to
agree
on
what
we
thought
our
needs
would
be
for
the
future
for
different
roadways
and
was
identified
as
needing
120
feet
now,
maybe
in
the
future,
when
they
finally
unravel
all
of
the
the
details
of
a
plan.
Maybe
all
of
that
won't
be
needed,
but
and
and-
and
so
that
could
be
given
back.
I
But
I
think
what
what
if,
if
he
wants
to
seek
a
variance,
I
think,
first
of
all
we're
going
to
have
to
decide
that
we're
imposing
the
requirement,
and
then
he
will
have
to
demonstrate
to
the
board
of
zoning
adjustment
that
he
has
a
hardship
that
he
cannot
reasonably
develop.
That
property
without
a
variance.
K
At
I'm,
looking
at
the
aerial
view
that's
put
in
here
and
I'm
sure
we
probably
don't
have
the
aerial
view
to
put
up
there,
but
is
that
really
where
that
parking
lot
is
on
the
other
side
of
in
across
from
the
property
that
you're
talking
about?
Is
that
the
same
distance?
Back
that
we're
talking
about?
I
mean
there's
no
way
that
that
parking
lot
is
85
feet
back
it's
six!
It's
six
feet
six
feet!
It's
six
feet
off
the
road.
So
how
is
it
that
we
have?
K
I
I
M
They
predate
that
2005
thoroughfare
plan
and
so
that
right
away,
dedication
and
setback
requirements
were
not
in
place
at
that
time.
Okay
and
that
church
that
you
saw
on
the
exhibit
before
there's
actually
a
cemetery
behind
it.
It's
a.
I
think
that
cemetery
has
folks
going
back
to
the
early
1900s.
So
it's
a
been
around.
H
John,
I
have
a
question
for
you.
I
understand
the
need
for
the
right-of-way.
We
need
the
right-of-way,
but
I
understand
what
these
guys
are
after
too.
If
they
would
give
that
additional
30
foot
right
away.
Would
you
have
any
problem
with
reducing
that
green
strip
in
front
of
their
parking
lot
from
25
feet
to
say,
10
foot?
Is
that
that's
not
a
transportation
issue
that
wouldn't
be
a
problem
for
for
you
guys?
Would
it
be
or
would
it
be.
D
M
M
L
Yes,
sir,
I
guess
I'd
like
to
point
out
john's
previous
comments,
and
that
is
that
had
assurances
not
been
granted
at
the
time
of
the
rezoning
by
mr
burkhover's
representatives,
we
wouldn't
even
be
here
tonight.
This
applicant
would
be
asking
for
a
rezoning,
because
it
was
pretty
clear
that
part
of
the
reason
that
the
request
was
granted
was
the
fact
that
they
had
made
those
assurances
that
the
30-foot
right-of-way
would
be
dedicated.
L
L
J
John,
this
is,
I
mean
this
is
something
we
haven't
dealt
with
for
a
while
because
we
just
haven't
had
the
need
to,
but
I
mean
this
this
again.
This
is
not
an
unusual
request
and
I'm
sure
we
have
other
lettered
highways
where,
when
subdivisions
have
gone
in,
modot
has
asked
for
the
same
type
of
right-of-way.
J
M
It's
just
that
exactly
this
is
not
unusual.
It's
we've
been
standard
practice
since
2005,
whether
this
would
be
a
project,
an
unincorporated
or
municipality,
and,
I
think
modot.
The
gentleman
the
unfortunate
part
is
that
when
he
did
go
talk
to
modot,
initially
they
provided
an
email
saying
that
they
weren't
going
to
provide
it,
and
it's
just
because.
A
J
Don't
like
it,
you
know,
modot,
we
we
had
money
on
the
table
and
everything
to
do
an
I-70
corridor
study
and
we
think
modot's
just
being
very
stubborn.
Now
you
know
they
didn't
get
the
additional
funds
they
want
and
they
want
to
basically
show
everybody.
Well,
you
know
we're
not
so
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
anything
so
they've
they've
taken
our
I-70
corridor
study
and
put
it
on
on
the
back
burner
and
yeah.
J
When
you
ask
them
about
highway
inn,
they
won't
really
commit
they're,
saying
no
we're
not
we're
not
building
anything
new.
Now
we're
going
to
keep
working
on
them
and
working
with
them
in
terms
of
you
know,
perhaps
sharing
some
of
the
cost
but
yeah.
If
you
call
anybody
modi
right
now,
they're
they've
been
told.
The
answer
is
no
they've
got
no
money
to
build
anything
new.
M
A
significant
is
a
significant
housing
and
mixed
use.
Development
that's
been
going
through
the
current
process
in
the
city
of
wentzville
or
city
of
o'fallon
and
they're
watching
carefully
about
this
right-of-way
reserve.
Right-Of-Way
dedication
issue:
that's
occurring
here,
first
in
the
county
to
make
sure
that
collectively
none
of
us
have
seen
many
new
plots
along
the
corridor
in
many
years.
M
And
if
you
look
at,
I
mean
majority
of
the
properties
you
see
them
in
the
orange
and
the
blue
and
the
green
that
property
has
been
set
aside,
and
so
it's
a
standard
practice.
That's
been
going
like.
I
said,
for
the
last
nine
years
and
route
end's
going
to
be
one
of
these
projects
that
we'll
be
working
on
for
many
decades.
Page
avenue
was
a
30-year
project.
M
H
H
H
We
already
have
the
lowest
fuel
tax
in
this
nation,
two
pennies,
I
think
most
people
would
gladly
spend
two
cents
a
gallon
on
fuel,
knowing
that
the
money's
going
to
get
the
roads
fixed
up
all
that
being
said,
I've
talked
to
some
city
leaders
in
winstonville
and
in
o'fallon
about
if
this
countess
council
would
pass
a
resolution
asking
our
state
legislative
delegation
to
put
two
cents
a
gallon
on
the
on
the
fuel
tax.
I
think
we
could
get
that
also
passed
by
the
cities
in
this
county,
because
you
know
we're
seeing
right
here
mo
dot's.
H
C
Number
4156
request
by
craig
tykowski
sponsored
by
council
as
a
whole,
an
ordinance
authorizing
the
county
executive
to
execute
the
intergovernmental
agreement
with
the
missouri
highways
and
transportation
commission
for
the
installation
of
traffic
signals
at
the
route.
Z
and
interstate
drive
intersection
as
part
of
the
interstate
drive
road
project.
A
A
H
N
Good
evening
this
is
a
log
structure
that
is
encased
within
a
white
frame.
Farmhouse,
it's
been
encased
in
that,
probably
since
early
1900s,
it's
in
very
good
shape.
It
is
not
a
huge
cabin,
but
it
is
a
two-story
one.
So
it's
a
little
more
unique
from
the
area.
It's
one
of
the
original
structures
that
was
in
the
town
of
weldon
spring.
N
H
A
A
H
O
The
adjustment
is
in
order
to
deal
with
hours
that
have
been
completed
by
a
variety
of
staff.
People
throughout
county
government,
not
just
within
emergency
communications,
but
who
are
helping
to
contribute
in
the
implementation
of
the
system
as
a
whole
is
department
has
put
in
some
overtime
hours
to
help
us
program.
Radios
we've
taken
on
a
couple
of
aspects
of
project
implementation
out
of
the
motorola
contract
handling
some
of
those
issues
ourselves
so
that
they
can
take
on
some
of
the
more
complicated
aspects
that
we
don't
have
the
capacity
to
do
here
ourselves.
H
C
Number
4166
request
by
steve
allman,
sponsored
by
mike
klinghamer
an
ordinance
authorizing
the
county
executive
to
execute
a
professional
service
agreement
between
the
county
of
saint
charles
missouri
and
the
united
states
attorney's
office
for
the
eastern
district
of
missouri.
In
conjunction
with
the
missouri
highway
patrol
as
fiscal
agent
and
edward
l,
dowd
iii.
As
an
independent
contractor.
G
E
C
Number
4167
request
by
steve
allman
sponsored
by
county
council
as
a
whole,
an
ordinance
amending
the
2014
budget,
adopted
by
ordinance
13-092
by
transferring
appropriations
between
budget
categories
in
the
office
of
the
circuit
court
to
fund
higher
than
expected
health
insurance
costs
caused
by
changes
in
coverage
by
circuit
court.
Employees.
C
Number
4168
request
by
steve
allman,
sponsored
by
council
as
a
whole,
an
ordinance
amending
the
2014
budget
of
saint
charles
county
missouri
is
adopted
by
ordinance
13-09
by
transferring
funds
between
the
department
of
finance
and
the
non-departmental
section
of
the
general
fund
budget
for
higher
than
expected
levy.
District
assessments
charged
for
the
2013
calendar
year
on
county-owned
property
located
in
levee
districts
in
saint
charles
county
missouri,.