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A
A
Applications
for
resulting
z'
heard
during
tonight's
meeting
will
be
will
be
voted
on
by
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission.
The
Commissioner
will
then
make
a
recommendation
on
the
applications
which
will
be
submitted
to
the
st.
Charles
County
Council
for
their
final
decision.
The
individual
items
and
bills
for
this
evenings
applications
are
scheduled
to
be
introduced
at
the
Monday
September
10th
2018
county
council
meeting
applications
for
preliminary
plats
heard
during
tonight's
meeting
will
also
be
voted
on
by
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission.
During
the
meeting,
the
vote
on
preliminary
Platts
is
final.
A
Only
a
recommendation
for
denial
of
a
preliminary
plat
would
be
heard
before
the
county
council.
The
following
documents
are
introduced
as
a
matter
of
record
for
this
evenings
public
hearing
and
regular
meeting
of
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission.
Those
documents
are
the
unified
development
ordinance
of
st.
Charles
County,
including
zoning
maps.
The
year
2025
master
plan
for
st.
Charles
County,
which
includes
the
year
2025
future
Land
Use
Plan
map
we've
had
changes
to
our
agenda
rezoning
and
conditional
use
permit
request
located
at
7800.
A
Highway
in
this
is
the
Rhoden
brothers
property
LLC
application
for
a
storage
facility.
If
you're
here
for
that,
that
application
has
been
withdrawn-
okay,
so
if
you're
here
for
that,
that
is
been
withdrawn
for
our
consideration.
In
addition,
rezoning
and
conditional
use
permit
request
at
5566
highway
P.
This
is
an
application
by
James
and
Paul
of
games.
A
Again,
this
was
for
a
storage
facility
located
on
highway.
P
that
application
has
been
withdrawn
will
not
be
considered
by
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission.
So
if
you're
here
for
any
one
of
those
items
those
have
been
drawn.
In
addition,
the
Reeve
preliminary
flat
for
timber
farms,
old
Colleen
Road-
that
matter
was
tabled
at
the
last
plating,
his
owning
meeting,
and
it
will
remain
on
the
table
until
the
September
meeting.
So
if
we're
here
for
that,
that
will
not
be
heard
this
evening.
A
A
How
we
will
proceed
I
will
call
the
first
application
will
ask
the
applicant
to
come
forward,
be
sworn
in
and
present
their
application
staff
will
make
a
presentation,
the
council,
the
Commission
rather
can
ask
questions
of
the
applicant,
and
then
we
will
go
to
a
public
hearing.
Anyone
present
can
speak
regarding
the
application.
Okay
once
the
public
hearing
is
closed.
A
It
is
closed,
but
then
we'll
bring
the
applicant
back
to
address
any
concerns
raised
in
the
public
hearing
or
any
further
questions
by
the
Commission.
And
then
we
will
proceed
to
take
a
vote.
If
you
are
going
to
speak,
we
ask
you
to
fill
out
one
of
our
speaker
cards
that
are
here
on
the
rail
so
that
we
get
your
name
correct
in
our
record.
The
first
application
for
this
evening
for
consideration
is
our
z18.
A
Oh
eight
owner
is
Rawls
Wentzville
Family
Partnership
LP
applicant
as
S
Lankan
contractors,
constructors
LLC
current
zoning
is
a
agricultural
district
requested.
Zoning
is
C
general
commercial
district.
The
area
consists
of
1.81
acres
is
located
on
the
southeast
corner
of
the
intersection
of
Highway
n
and
Morton
Lane
near
the
cities
of
Lake,
st.
Louis
and
ol
Fallon's
Ora
located
in
Council
District,
two
staff.
B
B
Also,
you
may
know
that
highway
in
is
an
hour
thoroughfare
plan.
It
shows
it
as
a
future
part
of
our
thoroughfare
system,
currently
there's
a
50-foot
right-of-way
on
highway
in
front
of
this
property.
At
some
point,
we're
looking
at
the
possibility
of
120
feet,
that's
120
foot
wide
right
away.
So
at
some
point
in
the
future,
this
roadway
is
expected
to
be
widened
and
improved
as
part
of
a
long-range
transportation
system.
B
Can
you
go
back
to
the
thank
you,
this
map
that
you'll
see
here
this
shows
the
current
zoning
situation,
the
white
that's
areas
that
are
currently
annexed
or
they're
currently
and
within
municipal
limits
to
the
north.
Do
you
have
lake
st.
Louis
to
the
east?
You
have
the
city
of
O'fallon,
so
this
really
actually
borders
across
the
street.
Basically
from
City
of
Lake
st.
Louis,
the
colored
areas
are
in
the
unincorporated
County
and
half
county
zoning
jurisdiction.
So
what's
red
is
commercial
zoning
now
what's
green?
B
Is
agricultural
zoning
currently
on
the
north
side
of
highway
in
is
City
of
Lake
st.
Louis.
They
provide
sewer
on
the
south
side,
it's
dekha
Creek,
so
in
this
application,
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
the
master
plan
it
down
highway
in
the
master
plan
is
its.
You
might
say
it's
a
broad
brush.
It
doesn't
follow
property
lines,
it's
more
conceptual,
but
it
actually
splits
these
two
properties
between
two
different
recommendations,
one
for
future
commercial,
the
other
for
future
higher
density
residential.
B
Essentially,
though,
I
think
that
the
application
does
conform
to
what's
the
master
plans,
vision
for
commercial
or
more
bordering
commercial,
one
of
the
limiting
factors
for
this
property
that
I
think
is
sewer
service.
It's
less
than
two
acres
combine
these
two
parcels:
it's
in
the
dock
at
Creek
sewer
service
area,
but
it's
not
anywhere
close
to
actual
public
sewer
service.
So
whatever
goes
on
this
property
during
the
interim
before
it
gets
eventual
sewer
connection,
it's
going
to
have
to
be
some
use
that
can
be
subordinate
supported
by
on-site
septic
system.
B
C
B
With
the
concept
plan
which
is
in
your
packet
would
include
a
youth
sports,
indoor,
youth
sports
and
a
building
of
I
think
maybe
about
8,000
square
feet,
the
parking
lot
layout
and
it's
all
conceptual-
it's
not
required
at
this
time
that
they
follow
any
necessary
necessarily
any
particular
plan,
because
commercial
zoning
would
allow
for
a
broad
range,
as
you
know,
of
different
uses.
But
this
is
the
concept,
but
they
have
in
mind
the
reason
they're
they're,
seeking
this
commercial
zoning,
I
guess
from
a
planning
standpoint.
B
B
B
So
with
that,
I
would
say
that
from
county
staffs
perspective,
we
would
recommend
that
the
Planning
Zoning
Commission
recommend
approval
of
the
rezoning
from
agricultural
to
sea
to
general
business
district.
But
again
I
would
just
let
everyone
know
that
it's
really
going
to
be.
If
should
this
be
rezone
and
commercial,
it's
going
to
be
up
to
the
property
owner
to
meet
all
of
the
setback
requirements,
including
this
additional
setback
requirement
that
I
mentioned
having
to
do
with
the
widening
of
highway
in
right.
Now,
it's
the
right
away
is
only
50
feet
someday.
B
B
B
E
F
E
Part
I,
don't
know
the
parking
lot
looks
like
it's
good.
Thank
you,
ninety-seven
parking
sensors.
It
says
so
right
there
doesn't
it.
So
is
there
really
enough
if
the
parking
lot
gets
moved
back
off
of
n?
Would
there
really
be
enough
room
for
a
for
a
septic
field,
given
that
that
ground
to
the
to
the
South
would
be
taken
more
for
parking
I.
B
Can't
say
for
certain
I've
just
seen
the
concept
plan
I
would
say
that
there
may
not
be
enough
room
on
this
lot
for
all
of
that
parking
or
that
building
of
that
size
it
might
have
to
be
somewhat
smaller
or
the
parking
might
have
to
be.
However,
fewer
parking
spaces.
So
that's
something
that
is
possibility.
G
B
H
I
guess
the
projected
lane
widening
what
will
when
they
do
actually
produce
a
plan?
Is
that
going
to
have
to
be
taken
into
consideration
in
terms
of
so
the
right
away
is
50
feet
now
and
you're
saying
120
feet
if
they
take
roughly
half
from
each
side?
That
means
there
would
be
an
additional
35
feet
off.
The
frontage
of
this
property
right
is
that
so
when
they
come
in
with
a
plan,
is
that
going
to
be
part
of?
What's
already
going
to
be,
can
sitter
that
additional,
let's
say
35
feet
for
right
away?
Yes,
when.
B
When
we
get
a
site
plan
application
for
this
property,
we
do
we
need
to
take
that
additional
setback
into
account.
There's
a
specific
provision
in
our
zoning
regulations.
It
says
that
the
setback
of
a
building
shall
be
X,
plus
whatever
the
thoroughfare
plans
show
half
of
what
the
thoroughfare
plan
needs
are,
and
so,
for
instance,
the
sports
barn.
Just
a
couple
blocks
from
here
west
of
here
on
Highway
n,
we
did
just
that
and
I
would
say
they
had
a
difficult
time,
fitting
everything
on
their
lot.
B
B
J
A
A
K
K
Thank
you.
So
obviously
this
is
a
consolidation
of
two
lots:
we're
looking
for
for
a
gymnastics
facility,
gymnastics
being
and
all
that
Paul
who's,
the
owner
of
the
facility
elaborate
a
little
bit
more,
but
on
a
youth
training
for
competitive,
as
well
as
recreational
gymnastics,
tumbling
and
so
forth.
So,
okay.
C
C
Two
years
old,
fourteen-years-old
for
50
minutes
or
60
minutes
at
a
time
they
come
in
for
up
primarily
for
tumbling
gymnastics
and
like
trampolining
instruction,
we
go,
sir.
We
upgrade.
We
have
a
few
school
classes
in
the
morning,
10:00
to
1050
the
board
business
comes
in
evening.
We
run
three
classes
450
to
550,
six
to
seven
and
seven
ten
to
eight
ten
and
in
after
school
industry.
Just
because
most
kids
are
fighting
up
in
Orangeville
a
school.
So.
K
So
let
me
address
the
sanitary
issue.
We
have
rectified
that
we've
already
worked
with
Sammy
Mae
we've
done
soil
testing
out
there
and
done
preliminary
design
for
the
septic
system,
we're
also
going
to
design
it
for
when
Duck
Creek
finally
brings
it
down
that
will
tie
into
the
to
the
mainline
service
when
they
come
down.
We've
been
working
with
ducky
Creek
on
what
their
timeline
is.
It's
undetermined.
D
C
K
Stormwater
all
had
to
be
designed
for
on-site
detention
to
meet.
You
know,
regulations.
We
have
the
you
know
if
you
had
to.
If
we
had
to
we,
you
know
we
can
actually
do
underground,
but
we
have
enough.
We
have
enough
room
with
more
than
ample
parking
that
can
actually
be
remove
it.
So
right
now,
that's
concept
designs
over
parked,
so
yeah,
there's
more
than
that
concept
is
just
a
concept
plants.
Until
we
get
zoning.
K
J
J
K
M
A
A
N
You
very
much
members
of
the
Commission.
My
name
is
Arne
C
AC
Dean
off
public
advocate
and
County
resident
P,
o
box
15.
Thirty-Five
thousand
six
thirty
366
just
want
to
go
through
some
procedural
I
type
issues
before
you
grant
or
look
into
this
further.
Some
of
the
things
that
came
to
my
mind,
that
are
of
question
are
the
last
size,
the
sewer
system,
the
retention,
detention
area
and
I.
N
Don't
know
if
you're
aware
of
commissioners,
but
the
current
County
Road
Board
is
undergoing
a
current
highway
n,
Road
board
study
and
so
I
think
that
you
need
to
take
those
findings
into
consideration
regarding
this
is
this:
is
the
most
high
volume
volatile
most
traffic
jam,
part
of
our
County?
It's
an
ever
growing
area
with
the
cities
of
Lake,
st.
Louis
start
and
Prairie
and
O'fallon
in
the
unincorporated
parts.
If
you
go
there
in
the
mornings
and
evenings,
there's
traffic
jams,
all
the
way
from
Lake,
st.
N
There's
no
landscaping
that
I,
see
and
I
know
that
that
comes
in
the
site
plan
or
proposed
the
pre
site
plan,
but
I
have
would
like
to
bring
up
and
make
a
public
record
is
where
the
cities
of
the
city,
like
st.
Louis
and
the
city
will
file
in
duly
notified
by
the
Planning
and
Zoning
staff
of
this
application,
as
mandated
by
Missouri
State
statute.
N
As
you
all
know,
they
had
the
right
of
remonstrance
for
a
supermajority
vote
of
the
county
council
and
if
they
have
any
objections,
I
don't
see
any
communications
or
letters
from
either
of
these
cities.
Nor
do
I
see
any
feedback
or
communication
from
the
Wentzville
fire
protection
district
or
the
public
water
number
two
we'll
be
servicing
this
facility.
Nor
do
I
see
any
communication
or
feedback
from
Duquette
Creek
sanitary,
district
and
I.
N
Don't
see
any
comments
or
communication
from
oza
MODOK
Missouri
Department
of
Transportation
I
did
reach
out
and
talk
to
the
county
engineer
the
resident
engineer,
scientist,
st.
Charles
County
and
they
were
not
contacted
by
the
county.
Nor
were
they
afforded
the
opportunity
to
put
public
comment
as
I
think.
There's
some
eat
grass
and
turning
in
and
out
of
this
property
that
needs
to
be
discussed.
Nor
do
I
see
a
traffic
study
as
part
of
the
proposed
supporting
documents.
N
I
think
in
this
case,
this
is
our
highest
volume
in
the
county
currently
of
traffic
concerns
and
traffic
mitigation
and
backups
and
I
don't
see
a
traffic
study
I.
Think
that
we're
putting
the
cart
before
the
horse
and
I
think
we
need
to
have.
That
scenario
is
part
of
this
rezoning
process
and
finally,
I'd
like
to
discuss
the
trail
or
sidewalk
requirement.
We
need
to
start
somewhere
on
highway
in.
N
We
need
to
start
requiring
that
any
either
residential
or
commercial
development
that
we
can
make
them
as
part
of
their
development,
be
responsible
for
the
cost
of
the
construction
of
either
a
5
foot
or
8
foot
trail
or
sidewalk
requirement
to
meet
with
a
da
Americans
with
Disabilities
Act.
As
you
know,
the
long
highway
and
there's
a
lot
of
gaps,
we
need
to
start
requiring
the
people
who
are
making
improvements
to
the
properties
that
they
also
improve
the
capital
infrastructure.
So
taxpayers
don't
have
to
pay
for
that
out
of
our
pockets.
N
For
those
reasons,
I
asked
they
this
sort
of
intergovernmental
discussion
and
I
think
the
cities
of
lake,
st.
Louis
and
O'fallon
need
to
come
to
the
table
and
be
part
of
this
discussion.
They
both
have
different
comprehensive
plans
that
are
very
different
than
what
the
county
has
currently
in
place.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
M
C
H
J
M
I
didn't
realize
that
till
you
told
me
that,
but
I'd,
like
a
six-foot
fence,
I
know,
there's
gonna
be
something
there.
I
like
a
six-foot
fence
and
I
like
the
60-foot
easement
for
a
property.
You
know
set
back
I,
think
that's
fair!
That's
what
I've
lived
with
and
a
sports
barn
on
how
en
I
bet
to
the
neighbors
who
are
not
happy
with
that
either.
M
It's
two
stories
tall.
It's
blocking
everything
there's
not
enough
parking,
and
this
is
what
how
we
em
looks
like
there's
a
tree
of
minus
pie,
20-foot
high,
spruce,
a
beautiful,
spruce,
they're,
trying
to
miss
a
car.
Turning
into
the
place
across
the
street,
flew
up
in
my
yard
and
took
out
a
big
tree
now,
pizza
driver
was
one
who
did
it.
Pizza
Hut
doesn't
want
to
pay
for
it.
M
M
O
O
A
P
P
You
know
I
always
that's
what
we
were
told
that
you
have
to
have
three
acres
for
a
septic
system
and,
like
it's,
been
stated
highway
and
is
terrible.
I've
lived
out
here,
40
years
and
I
know
there
are
plans
to
change
highway
in
and
this
and
that,
but
that
Lots
not
that
wide.
Then
you
know
to
lose
another.
P
P
From
the
side
of
the
road,
okay,
you
know
that
Lots
not
really
that
that
deep,
it's
long,
but
it's
not
that
deep
now
and
he's
claiming
that
they're
gonna
have
now
is
it's
pretty
much
going
to
be
he's
claiming
that
it's
a
athletic?
It
sounds
like
more.
It's
like
a
KinderCare
to
me
now.
If
you
have
95
parking
spots,
two
bathrooms
is
going
to
handle
all
that
waste
and
where
are
you
gonna
put
all
the
waste?
A
L
K
K
O
K
K
It
will
organize
in
and
is
not
a
an
outdoor
function
to
be
having
rowdy
rowdy
kids.
The
reason
for
the
parking
which
we
said
it
is
completely
over
park.
That's
a
concept
design
that
is
for
your
drop-off
and
pickup.
It's
the
majority
of
the
time.
Those
cars
are
not
there,
so
it
is
strictly
for
your
trick.
You
know
most
of
the
families
are
dropping
off
and
picking
up
their
kids
for
the
our
training
sessions
and.
E
K
D
K
K
No,
no,
no!
It's
a
leach
field
design!
There's
that
we
had
now
it's
temporary,
it's
for
it
until
dr.
Criqui
basically
have
come
in,
and
they've
approved
it
based
on
the
fact
that
we
do
a
connection
wind
up
at
Creek
provides
sewer
down
that
line
which
their
intent
is
to
they're,
just
not
there.
Yet,
where.
K
Leach
field
will
be
on
the
south
side
of
the
parking,
so
we
did
test
fields
along
that
south
property
line
and
I
think
we
need
I'm
correct
a
hundred
hundred
feet.
I
did
that
would
check
the
quantities
that
sandy
gave
us,
but
we
will
be
providing
an
engineered
designed
by
our
engineers
for
that
for
that
temporary
field.
E
B
K
I
C
So
we'll,
hopefully
38
students
up
for
groups
at
8
and
then
love
a
preschool
group
of
six
as
Ryan
mentioned
all,
but
the
preschool
families
drop
off
and
some
of
them
do
as
well.
We
rarely
have
spectators,
as
they've
got
quite
a
bit
to
do
and
in
the
areas
we
are
they're
close
to
where
they
can
be
running
errands,
whether
it's
Target
or
Walmart
or
shots.
And
then
we
have
a
staff
of
about
five
staff.
We
will
have
five
staff
in
the
building
to
manage
that
load.
If
we
were
to
get
to
our
full.
C
I
C
O
C
C
I
I
K
I
I
K
E
K
K
C
Do
work
with
a
lot
of
residents
from
Lake,
st.
Louis
and
O'fallon.
They
currently
leave
where
they
live
and
come
to
Chesterfield
and
we'd,
be
serving
them
better
in
their
neighborhood,
where
they
can
help
their
other
kids
run.
They
can
run
any
errands,
such
as
dropping
their
other
child
off
at
the
sports,
barn
or
the
other
activities
they
have.
They
are
having
leave.
O
B
Did
send
notification?
I
did
hear
back
from
city
of
Lake,
st.
Louis
and
I
spoke
with
the
Planning
Director
there,
and
his
question
really
was
about
future
right
away.
Expansion
for
highway
in
that
was
his
concern.
So
we
relate
to
him.
While
we
discussed
here
tonight,
I
didn't
hear
back
from
others.
We
did
contact
mo
dot
with
our
usual
contacts,
but
I
haven't
heard
back
yet
in
terms
of
driveway
access.
A
L
M
H
E
A
Next
application
is
rezoning
and
preliminary
plat
for
Tuscany
kills
37
42,
42
totem,
Bush,
Road
application,
RZ
18,
oh
7,
&,
P,
re
18-13,
owner
developer
is
James
Blondin
and
Erica.
Blondin
engineer
survey
is
Beck's
engineering.
Current
zoning
is
a
agriculture
cultural
district
requested
zoning
is
our
our
single-family
residential
district
3
acre
minimum
lot.
Size
area
is
sixteen
point
three
three
seven
acres
number
of
lots
to
be
to
its
location
on
the
south
side
of
total
ice
road,
approximately
500
feet,
east
of
Highway,
DD
and
council
district
to
staff.
Q
Alright
on
this
application,
they're
both
really
intricately
involved
with
each
other,
so
the
discuss
the
rezoning
first
we're
looking
at
just
the
one
parcel.
This
would
be
lot
number
one
of
two
lots
and
I'm
going
to
kind
of
go
back
and
forth
the
preliminary
plat.
The
preliminary
plat
is
required
because
this
overall
parcel
has
been
divided.
It's
met
its
its
limit,
so
the
remaining
two
parcels
here,
the
remaining
16
point
337-
has
to
be
plotted
as
a
subdivision.
Q
Q
Q
Highway.
Gt
I'm
sorry
had
something
highway,
D
D
there.
There
are
several
three
acre
parcels,
so
we
did,
even
though
the
master
plan
does
call
for
this
to
remain
agricultural
there's.
Clearly,
some
there's
a
lot
of
development
of
three
acre
lots.
So
with
that
staff
did
recommend
that
you
approve
the
rezoning
to
RR.
I
also
have
the
plat
here
you
know
show
of
both
of
the
the
Lots
will
be
accessed
directly
off
a
toda
Bush
Road.
Q
So
there
is
ownership
of
the
the
one
lot
lot
number
two
all
the
way
up
to
total
bush
and
then
lot
number
one
with
the
existing
house
right.
There
also
has
a
driveway
directly
on
Toto
Bush
Road.
We
did
have
our
Highway
Department
look
at
this
and
they
they
had
no
issue
with
it
at
this
road
dead-ends,
as
you
know,
into
the
bush
wildlife
area.
Q
A
R
R
I
think
le
pretty
much
summed
it
up.
We
are
creating
a
lot
subdivision
to
cut
the
3
acre
parcel
out
of
the
overall
16
acre
parcel.
The
home
is
existing.
There
are
no
new
improvements,
no
new
house
being
built,
no
new
roads,
anything
being
proposed
at
this
time.
The
property
owner
just
wants
to
divide
off
the
three
acres
with
the
house
on
it
in
case
of
a
buyer,
to
sell
it
off
I.
R
A
H
R
I
think
the
at
the
time
when
we
started
this,
the
the
property
owner
did
have
a
buyer
for
the
three
acres
and
they
didn't
want
five
acres.
They
wanted
to
stay
with
the
three,
but
I
don't
know
if
that
buyer
is
still
in
line
because
they
wanted
a
rather
fast
closing
and
with
going
through
this
process,
it
was
but
the
developer
or
the
property
owner
wanted
to
stay
with
the
three
acres.
A
A
A
F
I
H
H
H
A
Fromm
yes,
motion
passes.
Now
the
chair
will
entertain
a
motion
for
application.
Pr
e
18-3,
which
is
a
preliminary
plat
for
teske,
knee
hills
located
at
37
and
42
totin
bush
road
have
a
motion.
I'll
make
a
motion
was
that
kind
of
mr.
Flurry's
second
mr.
leader?
Yes,
mr.
Fromm,
yes,
mr.
Kuhn,
yes,
mr.
McDonald,
yeah.
E
E
A
Next
is
the
replanting
of
Lots
49
through
52
of
Riverbend
estates,
plat
two
at
nine
river
valley
court
applicant.
The
application
is
pyaari
18-12
applicants,
Stephen
L
McKenzie
and
Heather
M
McKenzie
property
owners,
Stephen
L
McKenzie
and
Heather
M
McKenzie
Ryan
e
Raphael
and
Kimberly
Raphael
Scotty
D
Schafer
and
Tim
Tami
G
Schafer,
Goren,
Diekman,
revocable
living
trust
engineers
surveyors
volts.
It
incorporated
property.
Zoning
is
armani,
single-family
residential
district
areas.
A
Q
All
right
on
this
preliminary
flat,
you
know
so
we
use
the
word
replanting.
It
follows
under
the
resub
division
portion
of
the
ordinance
under
the
you
know,
unified
development
ordinance.
So
with
that
these
four
property
owners
are
adding
some
additional
plant
to
the
south
of
this
property
and
where
the
addition
is.
This
is
upper
bottom
road
and,
if
you've
ever
seen
this
upper
bottom
road
right
in
the
middle.
It's
it's
like
a
drainage
area.
It's
it's
very
topographically
challenged.
Q
Eventually
they
have
access
here
and
they're
going
to
build
two
homes
down
here,
but
they
did
have
this
land
left
over
behind,
so
that
this
applicant
and
the
other
three
homeowners
have
an
opportunity
to
purchase
some
additional
land
and
add
on
to
the
existing
plant
staff
has
going
forward
that
there's
no
issues
that
we
have
they've
agreed
that
they're
going
to
abduct
the
same
covenants
and
restrictions
of
Riverbend
estates.
They'll
just
be
a
reap
lot
of
these
Lots
49
through
52
I.
H
Q
Q
A
G
Steve
Mackenzie
nine
River,
Valley
Corp,
st.
Charles
six
3303
go
ahead.
Sir,
like
Ellie
was
saying,
there's
four
of
us
that
we
have
the
opportunity
to
extend
our
Lots.
The
reason
for
this
is
when
the
subdivision
was
built
in
86,
and
none
of
us
are
the
original
owners
that
built
there.
We
all
bought
the
house
is
existing
and
they
cut
out
the
woods
behind
us
and
I
guess.
G
The
surveyors
probably
knew
when
we
bought
the
house,
but
we
didn't
know
that
we
weren't
getting
the
back
yards
that
looked
like
we
were
getting
until
the
people
behind
us
bought
that
property
they
surveyed
it
and
when
we
saw
the
line
come
across.
There
was
four
of
us
well
three
of
us
for
sure
they
were
shocked
at
how
much
yard
we
were
missing
because
it
was
fences
that
been
up
since
1986.
G
O
O
L
A
S
I
have
video
I,
have
images.
I
can
show
you
on
my
laptop
if
you'd
like
that,
I
can
show
you
the
reason
that
we
are
all
here
to
fight
this
proposition
is
because
that
land
is
a
steady
slope
straight
down
from
the
back
of
their
property
in
two
hours
into
the
drainage
Creek
in
the
front
yard
that
we
all
have
bridges
that
we
have
to
cross
to
get
to
our
houses.
S
I,
don't
know
if
anyone's
done
a
watershed
study,
but
if
they
strip
out
all
those
trees
and
bring
that
down
to
the
very
edge
of
my
property,
I've
got
a
great
room
that
was
built
onto
the
back
of
the
house.
I
didn't
build,
it
was
there
when
I
bought
it,
but
that
goes
right
up
to
the
edge.
Now
I've
lived
written
out
a
bunch
of
points.
S
Don't
sit
with
all
due
respect,
sir
I,
don't
see
any
reason
why
they
would
not
go
through
this
trouble
if
they
don't
have
the
intent
of
bringing
of
taking
all
those
trees
out.
There's
they
they
have
a
small
backyard.
I
have
a
video
that
shows
it
I
understand
they
have
a
small
backyard,
but
why
are
they
reap
lot
replanting?
They
are
not
going
to
clear
it
out
and
make
a
bigger
backyard
and
there's
a
huge
drainage
problem.
I
have
a
laser
pointer
if
you
permit
them
this
point,
while
I
can
show
you
them
take.
S
S
S
Not
only
do
I
open
this
6:06,
but
my
father
owns
six
hundred
and
six
twelve
when
you
rent
those
out
those
are
we've
done
extensive
work
to
fight
off
the
flooding
conditions
that
that
we
have
to
face
during
heavy
rains.
It's
understanding
that
we
knew
the
problems
we're
going
to
purchase
the
properties.
S
S
S
Sorry,
if
I
get
a
little
excited
about
this,
but
my
house
was
right
at
the
edge
of
that
hill
and
if
that
water
starts
coming
down
any
harder,
I'm
afraid
my
yards
gay,
my
house
can
get
flooded.
I've
already
got
a
five-foot
culvert,
dug
this
1
foot
wide
one
foot
deep
with
a
pipe
that
runs
under
my
driveway
dump
off
the
water
in
the
front
yard.
S
I've
I'm,
not
asking
anything
of
the
council
I,
don't
want
any
I
bought
the
property
I'm
taking
full
responsibility
for
the
drainage,
but
if
they
remove
all
those
trees
and
put
it
right
up
to
the
edge
by
the
way,
I
do
have
a
picture
of
that
to
the
edge
of
my
property.
There's
a
ten-foot
cliff!
That's
about
a
slope!
That's
about
like
that!
You
stand
on
the
edge
of
that
and
you
can
see
the
my
my
rooftop.
S
S
Here's
the
house
that
gets
motive
when
the
Creek
floods-
and
this
happens
nearly
every
heavy
heavy
heavy,
every
heavy
rain,
not
every
rain,
but
during
the
heavy
rains,
it'll
flash
flood
and
hop
its
banks,
I,
don't
know
if
anyone's
done
a
watershed
study,
but
if
they're
gonna
propose
to
remove
all
that
property
all
that
tree.
All
that
foliage
we're
gonna
have
an
erosion
problem
and
six
hundreds
gonna
lose
most
of
its
land
from
erosion
and
I'm.
O
O
S
S
T
A
T
T
And
I
think
you
can
see
the
extended
area
right
here.
This
is
the
they
want
to
add
to
their
their
property.
Here.
Okay,
you
see
the
four
Lots
that
we
referred
to,
and
this
point
of
it
is
goes
right
down
here
up
against
606,
which
is
my
son's
property.
This
606
12
I
own
over
here
there's.
This
is
a
big
crest
right
here,
where
this
my
son's,
aha
latias
and
to
the
west
side
of
it.
The
water
runs
down
that
way,
and
it
comes
six
hundred.
T
Okay,
because
there
is,
if
you
stand
out
during
the
heavy
rain,
I
mean
it's
coming
down,
I
mean
there's,
there's
a
couple
inches
of
water
coming
off
that
hill
and
we
get
water
along
the
west
side
of
612
over
here
we
get
water,
probably
a
half
a
mile
away,
everything
of
Anna
crest
on
upper
and
the
Riverbend
estates.
Everything
there's
a
hill
there,
everything
there
everything
south
of
that
we
get.
T
Okay,
we
get
it
from
the
top,
and
then
we
get
it
from
the
page
through
the
extension
on
the
west
side
and
that's
one
of
the
creeks
floods
and
it
comes
up
over
the
road
Avon
places
flooded
and
you
can't
drive
down
there
way,
I'm
sweating
like
that,
so
yeah
we
know
we
got
a
problem,
we're
any
little
bit.
Everybody
knows
every
time
something
is
built
and
a
regular
normal
surface
terrain
is
disrupted.
You've
got
more
runoff.
T
Everybody
knows
that
and
I'm
just
we're
saying
if
you
clean
that
area
out
at
any
point,
I,
don't
care,
take
a
tree
down
right,
just
clean
out
the
underbrush,
which
there
is
a
lot
of
up
there
and
don't
slow
that
water
down
you're,
going
to
get
more
and
more
down
there,
there's
nothing
there
a
circular!
So
all
we're
saying
is
it
we
would
really
like
for
it
not
to
happen.
That's
what
we're
trying
to
say
to
protect
our
property
and
water
stuff.
T
M
D
O
D
O
T
Decide
this
this
is
600
six
of
six
six
twelve
and
there's
the
ridges
right
behind
my
son's
house
right
there
and
it
goes
straight
down.
So
water
comes
this
way
over
there
and
it
goes
that
way
and
over
there
to
the
west
side
of
the
612.
That's
where
all
of
that
water
from
the
main
gusts
of
that
River
Bend,
all
of
those
every
Street
up
there,
all
that
drains
right
down
there
and
out
that
backyard.
It
just
comes
sloping
down.
This
is
a
very
steep.
It's
a
low,
that's
pretty
good
wrongful
office.
T
What
it
is
is
straight
up
and
down
right
behind
the
son's
house.
It
tapers
a
little
more
over
there
to
the
west
and
it
tapers
a
little
more
already
here
to
the
east
and
then
of
course,
we've
come
to
over
here
runs
down.
There's
a
sidewalk
I'm,
not
in
the
sidewalk
or
driveway,
a
common
driveway
for
these
two
US
six
hundred
and
six
and
six
over
six,
and
that's
where
all
the
water
runs
coming
off
of
that
hill.
And
then
it
come
down
over
over
here
because,
like
my
son
said,
there's
a
ditch,
a
drainage.
T
U
U
Scott
Shafer
7
River,
Valley,
Court
6303,
one
of
the
property
owners.
It's
asking
for
the
and
xx
that
property
to
the
Neighborhood
Association
I
can
understand.
These
gentleman
is
concern
about
the
runoff,
but
I
think
they
are
they're
here
for
the
wrong
meeting.
I
think
there's
the
zoning
without
property
owners
of
that
property.
Probably
previously,
to
this
he's
concerned
about
trees
being
removed,
there
are
no
trees
in
the
property
that
I'm
trying
to
purchase
when
I'm
in
the
house
about
14
years
ago.
U
There's
a
tree
line
and
I
think
the
contractor
built
that
tree
line
and
people
who
bought
that
had
the
house
and
bought
the
property.
Initially
they
put
their
fence
up
against
that
tree
line.
So
when
I
moved
in
I
naturally
thought
that
was
my
property
and
so
I've
been
mowing
it
and
deleting
it
and
all
of
that
kind
of
stuff
and
then
the
new
property
owners
behind
us
in
that
area.
That's
a
runoff
area,
just
I,
don't
know
to
what
extent
but
I
know
that's
where
a
lot
of
water
runs
through
there.
U
They
came
in
and
showed
us
that,
indeed
my
fence
line.
What
I
thought
was
my
property?
Wasn't?
My
property
was
actually
theirs,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
purchase,
as
with
all
the
other
neighbors
of
mine,
trying
to
purchase
the
law
that
we
thought
was
originally
ours.
There's
no
trees
on
the
lot
that
I'm
trying
to
purchase
I'm
just
trying
to
reclaim
what
I've
been
mowing
and
taken
care
of
and
what's
better,
the
fence
line
has
been
all
along
so
which.
U
L
H
L
U
O
O
A
J
L
A
F
My
name
is
Ryan
Braun
I
love
at
6:27,
River,
Bend
estates,
Drive,
st.
Charles,
Missouri
6,
3,
3,
0,
3
I'm.
Vice
president
for
the
board
of
directors
of
the
HOA
for
River
Bend,
we
had
our
meeting
on
April
18th
of
2018.
The
members
that
are
proposing
this
right
now
came
forward
mentioned
what
they
were,
what
they
were
intending
to
do,
and
that
was
just
purchased
the
property.
A
N
N
Cac
Dean
off
public
advocate
and
resident
P,
o
box
1535
Oh
falling
630
366
I'd
like
to
encourage
the
Commission
before
making
a
recommendation
to
the
county
council
I
would
encourage
you
to
table
this
application
for
one
month
to
give
staff
the
chance
to
get
this
facts.
We
have
two
different
groups
here:
two
different
sets
of
facts
and
two
different
testimonies
I'd
like
to
get
our
professional
staff
to
make
a
site
visit,
which
I
think
is
really
an
order
here.
N
I
think
they
need
you
go
out
and
get
a
lay
of
the
land
and
take
some
more
in-depth
pictures.
Do
a
more
in-depth
study
and
flood
analysis
to
find
out
the
true
facts
here
is:
we
have
two
differing
facts
from
two
different
groups.
Clearly,
trees
has
dramatic
and
a
huge
impact.
Look
at
California
look
at
Colorado
when
the
stripping
of
trees
are
cutting
down
the
trees.
N
Charles
County
Recorder,
a
deeds
that
protects
every
property
owner
in
this
neighborhood
and
also
future
owners
of
the
applicants,
because
we
all
know
25
50
years,
goes
by
there's
going
to
be
new
owners
of
these
homes
in
both
Riverbend
estates
and
also
the
bottom
on
bottoms
Road,
and
so
there
needs
to
be
a
recorded
document
to
protect
that
no
trees
were
removed
and
that
nobody
would
be
flooded
out.
For
those
reasons,
I
humbly
ask
the
Commission
to
table
this
application
for
one
month,
and
so
staffs
could
sort
out
the
facts.
N
L
I
G
Like
Scott
says,
there's
no
trees
on
the
property;
he
wants
the
Rafael's
on
the
other
side,
there's
no
treatise
on
that
property,
better
than
half
of
what
I
want.
There's
no
trees
on
there,
but
I
did
take
my
lot
to
go
back
deeper.
The
people
behind
us
that
they're
here
now
that
own
property
they're
gonna,
have
horses
back
there.
So
we
were
just
kind
of
looking
to
get
a
buffer
zone.
G
Cuz
they're
gonna
run
a
fence
up
there,
I
don't
know
the
horses
aren't
gonna,
be
there
full-time
or
anything,
but
they're
gonna,
they're
gonna
put
a
fence
up
there.
I
really
didn't
want
a
horse
fence
right
at
mine.
My
line,
but
also
I,
do
in
the
future.
Wanna
build
a
garage,
a
detached
garage
back
there,
so
the
only
trees
that
would
be
taken
out
might
be
a
half
a
dozen
trees
to
kind
of
get
me
back
in
there.
What
happens
is
at
the
at
the
tree
line.
G
G
C
G
G
I
mean
look
as
far
as
the
trees.
Nobody
has
any
plans
to
take
any
significant
amount,
I'm,
the
only
one
that
would
take
any
trees
out
and
it
would
just
be
enough
to
build
up.
Maybe
six,
seven
hundred
square
foot
garage
and
most
of
the
garage
would
be
on
the
ground.
That's
already
treeless
now,
but
I'd
have
to
take
a
few
out
just
to
make
sure
they
didn't
fall
on
a
storm
or
something
to
be
on
there,
wouldn't
be
any
significant
trees
being
removed.
L
Q
Yes,
the
they
have
a
right
to
remove
trees,
as
it
is
yes
on
their
property,
including
the
new
owners.
The
only
thing
that
I
would
also
like
to
point
out.
We
do
go
through
a
thorough
review.
Our
development
review
division,
our
engineering
section
that
did
take
a
look
at
this.
They
signed
off
on
it.
Basically,
because
subdivision
has
its.
Q
Infrastructure
in
place
development,
the
homes
are
already
all
built.
Nothing
will
really
change,
except
possibly
an
accessory
structure,
but
going
back
and
usually
on
preliminary
plots.
We
have
a
tree
preservation
organs
and
even
that
only
requires
25%
of
the
trees
to
be
protected
when
they're
out
there
grading
and
developing
a
preliminary
plat.
This
plot
is
already
in
place.
Q
O
From
Steve
that
he's
going
to
put
a
another
structure
on
his
property,
it
doesn't
stop
the
other
homeowner
on
52
from
doing
something
similar
other
than
they
can't
get
around
the
house
possibly,
but
they
can
go
back
and
why
do
they
need
that
much
property
on
52?
Why
are
they
not
just?
Are
they
on
52?
Is
there
actually
a
fence
line
back
there
on
52?
So
can
you
come
back
up,
skip
yeah.
G
G
Well,
if
you
look
at
the
way
behind
52
goes:
if
I
bought
my
land
coming
back,
we
would
basically
land
lock
the
owners
now
yeah,
there's
there'd
be
a
piece
out
there
that
they
wouldn't
have
act.
They
would
still
own
it
and
not
have
access
to.
So
the
smartest
move
was
to
just
draw
the
line
straight
across
and
take
the
property
I
mean
truly
Jerry.
Don't
probably
don't
even
want
that
much
property,
but
that's
the
way
the
line
goes
to
so.
L
G
There,
the
neighborhood
owns
that
that
the
white
part
there
right
and
that's
behind
Jerry's
house,
it's
all
woods
and
that's
all
community
property
for
the
neighborhood
and
I
like
say:
if
I
buy
property
behind
my
house,
it's
gonna
land,
lock
this
little
piece
of
property,
but
the
homeowners
now
the
property
owners
now.
So
the
only
logical
thing
to
do
was
to
take
the
whole
thing.
G
O
Q
Q
B
Q
The
other
thing
I
can
think
of
is
our
development
review.
Division
does
require
permitting
if
you
are
going
to
clear
trees
or
do
any
land
disturbance
of
5,000
square
feet
or
greater
and
typically,
what
happens
is
if
somebody
is
doing
something
without
permits,
and
even
if
it's
not
five
thousand
square
feet
they
have
to,
they
should
get
a
land
use
permit
from
planning
and
zoning.
Q
Q
A
E
L
A
A
Next
on
the
agenda
as
application,
pyaari
18-5
plenary
plat
for
Sorenson
kennels
location
on
highway,
double
D
owner
is
Kimberly
over
language.
African
has
been
Schiller
engineer,
landmark,
surveying
company
properties,
owning
a
agricultural
district
area;
twelve
point:
six:
seven
acres:
number
of
lots
to
location
over
the
northwest
corner
of
highway;
double
D
and
carrot;
Lane,
council
district
to
staff
all.
Q
Right
we
have
another
plat,
that's
a
result
of
of
too
many
splits
of
the
original
parcel
in
1999,
the
unified
development
ordinance
went
into
effect
and
based
on
the
ordinances,
no
more
than
two
properties,
less
than
ten
acres
can
be
parceled
off
of
the
original
parcel.
So
consequently,
this
applicant
would
like
to
read
of
I'd
the
remainder
land
of
twelve
point:
six,
seven
acres
into
a
seven
point:
six,
seven
acres
and
a
five
acre
parcel.
Q
This
is
the
five
acre
would
be
the
minimum
for
agricultural
zoning.
The
applicant
is
also
proposing
to
access
lot
to
lot
number
one
is
already
developed.
It
is
the
the
parent
parcel,
but
it's
already
been
split
off.
I
can
explain
lot
to
would
like
to
access
the
property
via
Garrett
lane
I
think
they
are
currently
working
on
getting
private
road
access,
and
that
is
that
is
the
only
remain
dean
item
on
this
plat
staff
is
recommending
approval.
G
V
V
Road
then
yeah
there's
no
record
of
anyone
owning
it.
I've
looked
into
it.
She
used
that
road.
She
owns,
there's
not
a
big
matter.
She
owns
property
further
back
from
there
and
that
was
her
original
driveway
1980-81
Ridgefield
yeah.
Well,
you
can't
that
square
right
back
there
behind
that
building,
no.
V
V
So
that's
the
only
record
that
we
have,
but
I
looked
into
it
and
the
survey
company
couldn't
find
anyone
that
owns
the
road.
It's
mainly
just
access
point
to
get
to
those
three
Lots
that
are
there.
Some
lines
from
double
D
I
would
be
the
first
one.
If
you're
looking
at
double
D
on
the
left,
probably
up
30,
30
feet,
I
come
off
of
double
D
on
the
Garrett
and
then
turn
right
to
my,
for
my
driveway
would
be
Wellington.
W
V
V
W
V
Would
think
so
it's
pretty
dangerous
there
there's
a
hill
right
and
that
Garrett
is
in
a
low
spot.
That's
originally
because
I
walked
it
before
I
decided
to
do
this
and
that's
really
the
only
safe
location
to
pull
out
of.
Without
you
know,
I
got
young
kids
and
when
they
start
to
drive,
it's
gonna
be
pretty
scary,
so
it'll.
V
A
D
L
I
G
A
E
Think
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
would
help
the
this
board
function,
a
little
better
would
be
if
we
had.
If
we
required
site
plans
that
were
more
detailed
than
what
our
current
standard
operating
procedure,
our
ordinance
actually
requires.
I
think
it.
We
saw
another
example
of
it
tonight
that
when
you
have
a
site
plan,
that's
conceptual
in
nature.
It
sometimes
raises
more
questions
than
it
does.
Answers
I
I
think
it
would
help
us
make
a
better,
more
informed
decision.
E
I
think
it
would
also
and
I
think
more
importantly,
the
neighbors
would
have
a
better
understanding
of
what
was
being
proposed
there.
That's
the
that's
the
positive
side
as
I
see
it
there's
the
negative
side.
Of
course
it
will
be
more
cost
if
someone's
serious
about
developing
it,
though
there's
gonna
be
cost
us.
So
they're
gonna
have
to
do
this
website
anyway,
and
if
we
really
look
at
the
numbers,
the
vast
majority
of
the
plans
that
come
before
us
are
approved
anyway,
and
they
still
have
to
to
incur
those
costs.
E
A
E
As
opposed
to
receive
the
site
plan
that
and
what
I'm
talking
about
is
making
the
site
plan
more
detailed,
the
requirements
in
that
UVO
be
more
more
specific
than
than
what's
there
now
sometime
we've
we've
received
plans
that
were
as
sketchy
as
something
written
on
the
back
of
them
yeah
and
it
meets
the
back
of
the
napkin.
A
plan
meets
the
you.
Do
I
I
don't
think
that
that
gives
us
enough
information
to
make
a
fully
informed
decision.
I
think
it
causes
a
lot
of
questions,
but
with
with
the
residents.
So
what
do
you
do?
E
O
E
O
E
H
Got
you
I
I
think
it
would
be
personally.
My
thing
is:
it
would
be
better
to
have
a
little
more
detail
on
these
I.
As
you
say,
the
downside
is
that
the
the
applicant
would
have
to
find
some
more
money,
and
certainly
that's
something.
We
have
to
be
conscious
of
there.
It's
their
money,
but
I
do
think
that,
for
instance,
on
one
tonight,
we're
talking
about
by
the
time
you're
talking
about
the
additional
setback
from
the
potential
highway
widening,
and
you
know
what
kind
of
buffer
zones
are
gonna
be
created.
H
H
E
E
W
I
E
Documents,
but
there's
no
way,
we
don't
have
the
technology
now
someone's.
What's
an
image
on
that
on
the
fancy
overhead
projector,
it
doesn't
show
up
here
so
to
me
that
things
about
useless,
free,
theater,
there's
a
little
fancier
than
it
sounded
sure,
but
it
doesn't
have
the
light
bulb
on
like
the
old
instead
right.
B
As
you
know,
our
current
master
plan
is
the
2025
master
plan,
which
was
approved
by
the
County
Council
in
2013
and
under
the
county's
Charter.
The
the
county
is
tasked
with
reviewing
the
master
plan
every
five
years,
and
so
the
County
Council
and
the
County
Executive
have
appointed
an
master
plan
steering
committee
to
to
review
the
County
master
plan
and
see
if
any
changes
are
warranted
or
any
updates
are
warranted.
B
Zoning
commission
would
play
a
role
in
this
in
particular
hearing
or
reviewing
a
draft,
it's
recommended
by
the
steering
committee
and
providing
input
and
making
a
recommendation
to
the
to
the
County
Council,
but
again
ultimately,
and
be
up
to
the
County
Council
decide
whether
to
adopt
a
revised
plan
or
not
I
should
let
you
know
that
the
idea
is
not
necessarily
to
create
a
whole
new
master
plan,
but
to
you
might
call
it
tweaks
or
Corrections,
or
some
minor
updates.
The
reasoning
behind
that
is
there'll
be
there's
many
new
census
in
2020.
B
Those
census
results
will
be
the
details
of
what
we
release,
probably
in
2022,
and
that's
about
the
time
that
five
years
from
now
we
would
be
undergoing
another
master
plan
review.
So
at
that
time
we
would
have
really
solid
information
and
numbers
in
terms
of
of
population.
The
population
counts
currently
we're
working
with.
What's
called
the
American
Community
Survey
American
Community
Survey
is
the
results
of
those
are
done
by
sampling.
B
Traffic
modeling,
which
would
be
much
more
accurate
and
also
we're
thinking
that
land
use,
could
go
hand-in-hand
with
the
updated
traffic
modeling,
so
I
think
what
we're
dissipating
again
are
some
minor
updates,
but
I
want
to.
Let
you
know
about
this
process
that
we're
undergoing
I
should
also
mention
that
Mike
Ling
hammer
is
serving
on
the
master
plan.
Steering
committee.
B
Yeah,
we
recently
met
with
a
focus
group
for
transportation
and
the
thoroughfare
plan
specifically,
and
so
we're
we'll
be
updating
the
thoroughfare
plan,
we're
thinking
with
the
newest
information,
but
again
we're
thinking.
It's
we're,
not
gonna
we're
not
thinking
Squier
gonna
blow
it
all
up
and
begin
over
again,
but
there.
D
I
watched
the
last
County
Council
meeting
when
this
was
brought
up
and
see.
Veldman
had
appointed
two
different
people
from
different
districts.
I
was
on
the
master
plan
committee
before
you
with
your
predecessor,
Wayne
Anthony,
and
there
are
two
people
in
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission
that
we
participated
myself
and
Sandra
Pollock
and
they
were
probably
the
initial
meeting.
We
had
three
or
four
hundred
people
representing
different
groups:
different
demographics,
from
st.
D
Charles,
County
from
La
Jan
landowners
to
the
small
businesses
and
so
forth,
and
so
on
the
initial
meeting
we
met
in
groups
of
15
and
we
each
each
group
came
up
with
different
concepts
and
each
group
had
a
representative
from
all
these
demographics
there's
a
very
interesting
procedure
because
we
all
came
up
with
maps
of
st.
Charles
and
they
were
put
on
walls
like
this
see.
You
got
a
different
viewpoint
from
not
only
residents
but
including
participation
for
planning
and
zoning,
and
that's
what
formulated
a
lot
of
the.
D
B
We
have
Mike
Ling
hammer
who's,
a
master
plan
steering
committee
member
and
I
need
to
report
back
to
you
on
a
regular
basis
about
what
our
progress
is.
I
should
also
mention
that
we're
planning
on
a
public,
open
house
and
I
felt
like
the
public
feedback
session
on
October
10th,
and
so
we
are
actively
planning
for
that
public,
open
house.
E
We're
I
think
Robert
mentioned
with
it.
This
one
is
what
we're
doing
now
is
an
update
to
the
master
plan
from
as
we're
not
going
anywhere
near
as
an
and
and
and
going
through
the
mast
of
the
a
true
planning
process.
It's
a
this
one's
more
of
a
midseason
update,
rather
than
than
a
complete
new
plan.
So
it's
it's
we're
we're
not
we're
not
going
anywhere
near
that
to
the
depth
that
you
guys
did
before.