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Watch the St. Charles County Planning and Zoning meeting from August 18, 2021.
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The
applications
will
then
be
scheduled
to
be
introduced
before
the
county
council
meeting
at
monday
september
13th
to
2021
county
council
meeting
public
comment
for
conditional
use.
Permit
requests
will
be
taken
during
tonight's
meeting
and
at
the
council
meeting
on
monday
september,
13
2021
public
comment
on
conditional
use.
Permit
applications
will
not
be
taken
at
any
meeting
of
the
county
council
held
thereafter.
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Applications
for
preliminary
plans
heard
during
tonight's
meeting
will
also
be
voted
on
by
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
during
the
meeting.
The
vote
on
preliminary
plans
is
final.
Only
the
recommendation
for
denial
of
a
preliminary
plat
will
be
heard
before
the
county
council
at
their
monday
september.
13
2021
meeting
the
following
documents
are
introduced
as
a
matter
of
record
for
the
evening's
public
hearing
and
regular
meeting
of
the
public
and
planning
and
zoning
commission.
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The
unified
development
ordinance
of
the
saint
charles
county,
including
zoning
maps
and
the
year
2030
master
plan
for
saint
charles
county,
which
includes
the
year
2030
future
land
map
land
use
map
plan.
So
basically,
how
it
will
work
tonight
is
I'll,
read
the
request.
The
staff
will
then
make
their
recommendation
at
that
point.
We'll
have
the
applicant
come
up
and
they'll
give
the
details
of
their
application.
What
the
specifics
are,
then,
after
that
point
at
that
point,
members
of
the
planning
zoning
can
ask
questions.
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When
they've
finished
that
presentation,
then
members
of
the
public
would
be
able
to
come
up
and
make
comments
of
our
questions
or
statements.
Whatever
there's
a
lot
of
people
here
tonight,
so
just
request
that
if
there
is
something
you'd
like
to
comment
on
and
it's
pretty
much
the
same
thing
other
people
have,
you
could
certainly
welcome
the
comments
but
keep
it.
You
know
on
topic.
If
you
could
we'd
greatly
appreciate
that
we've
got
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
people
here.
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The
property
owner
is
willmos
brothers
investments
llc.
The
current
zoning
is
a
agricultural
district.
The
requested
zoning
is
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light
industrial
district,
the
2030
master
plan,
recommends
low
density
residential
uses,
approximately
4.23
acres,
the
location
on
the
west
side
of
par
road,
approximately
1700
feet
north
of
highway,
a
adjacent
to
the
city
of
wentzville.
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Okay,
the
property
is
located
right
here,
just
east
of
a
the
a
subdivision
located
within
the
city
of
wentzville
brookshire
creek.
The
property
is
current.
Like
I
mentioned
it's
currently
zoned
agricultural,
but
it
is
surrounded
to
the
north
west
and
south
by
the
city
of
wentzville
and
to
the
east
it
is,
there
is
still
an
incorporated
property
that
is
zoned,
agricultural,
the
of
course.
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Should
they
need
any
services,
so
being
that
it
is
in
the
city's
growth
area
and
it
the
land
use,
does
not
call
for
industrial
development
at
this
property
and
being
adjacent
to
residential
zoning
staff
is
recommending
that
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
recommend
denial
to
the
county
council.
We
did
receive
two
letters
of
opposition.
One
was
from
the
city
of
wentzville
and
the
other
was
a
private
homeowner.
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With
that
being
said,
the
majority
of
the
site
will
be
wrapped
in
either
a
heavy
industrial
or
light
industrial
use.
The
north
property
is
a
current,
currently
a
midwest
college,
and
although
the
current
zoning
map
for
the
city
of
wentzville
says
agricultural,
their
future
use
calls
for
a
public
institutional
use,
which
is
the
current
use
of
that
property.
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This
is
an
image
from
the
city
of
wentzville's
future
use
plan.
Again,
our
site's
highlighted
here
with
this
dotted
line
to
the
north
is
that
institutional
use,
the
public
institutional,
potentially
educational,
that's
what
it's
currently
being
used
for
to
the
east
is
a
light.
Industrial
zoning
to
the
south
is
the
rk
stratman.
That's
currently
i2
heavy
industrial
and
again
to
the
south
of
our
property,
is
the
carpenter's
union
and
then
rankin
technical
college,
both
currently
zoned
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heavy
industrial.
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But
I
just
don't
necessarily
agree
that
this
particular
property,
being
4.3
acres
in
size
and
then
basically
going
to
be
surrounded
in
industrial
use,
is
a
good
lot
candidate
for
residential
development,
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
an
air
too,
but
this
portion
here
calls
out
for
future
industrial
use,
and
these
are
actually
currently
houses
within
saint
charles
county.
So
your
master
plan
is
well
developed,
but
it
may
be
subject
to
air.
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So
I
would
say
that
please,
everyone
speak
closer
to
the
microphone
they
normally
would
and
then
that
way
also
marisa
and
others
can
pick
it
up
for
the
meeting
minutes,
because,
obviously
this
is
recorded
and
we
really
really
need
the
record.
The
the
recording
is
part
of
the
record,
both
the
the
audio
recording
and
the
video
recording.
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Also
too,
if
I
could
kind
of
embellish
a
little
bit
too
on,
I
guess
the
the
potential
design
and
layout
for
this
development.
It's
going
to
be
completely
autonomous
this
day
and
age.
So
much
is
online,
so
actual
renting
the
units
will
be
done
online
also
too,
with
aid
of
a
kiosk
system.
So
there's
no
proposed
need
for
any
restrooms
or
utility
connections,
so
there's
not
an
actual
need
for
us
at
this
time
to
annex
into
the
city
of
wenceville.
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The
next
part
will
be
about
conditional
use
concerning
the
conference
center
and
res
lodging,
and
then
the
third
will
be
on
the
landing
field,
so
it
will
be
going
in
that
order.
So
the
first
again
is
application.
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21-14,
the
property
owner,
is
edgewood
highway,
94
number
one
llc
and
zero
church
street
llc.
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The
applicant
is
the
same
edgewood
and
highway
94
number
one
llc
and
zero
church
street
llc.
The
current
zoning
is
a
agricultural
district.
The
requesting
zoning
is
a
t.
Agricultural
tourist
district,
the
2030
master
plan,
recommends
rural
residential
uses.
The
parcel
size
is
approximately
79.39
acres.
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Thank
you
again.
The
the
project
that
we're
gonna
be
speaking
about
tonight
is
broken
up
into
three
different
parts
and
the
first
part
is
more
conceptual.
It
concerns
the
zoning
of
the
property
and
then,
after
reconsideration
for
zoning,
we'll
get
into
the
questions
of
of
the
specifics
uses
that
are
proposed.
First,
the
the
zoning
the
question
at
hand
is
is
the
is
this
the
right
place
for
agricultural
tourism
district
zoning
at
these
at
this
location?
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Just
to
be
clear,
there
are
two
parcels
involved
that
are
about
77
acres.
In
an
earlier
version
of
our
staff
report,
we
referred
to
three
parcels
in
air,
but
there's
a
there's,
a
small
parcel
that
directly
joins
the
the
church
on
highway
94..
That
small
parcel
is
not
included
in
this
application.
So
we're
talking
about
two
parcels:
totaling
77
acres,
the
the
purpose,
as
stated
by
the
applicant,
is
to
facilitate
the
construction
of
a
conference
event.
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Lodging
center
called
hoffman
lodge
with
related
guest
services
and
centered
around
its
location
within
the
augusta
american
viticultural
area
or
the
aba,
and
you
might
know
that
augusta
viticulture
area
is
the
number
one
or
the
first.
I
should
say
in
the
united
states
is
recognized
by
the
federal
government,
and
that
was,
I
think,
in
the
1960s
when
that
was
designated,
and
so
the
the
location
of
this
is
within
that
ava
area.
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Again,
the
rezoning
request
includes
the
two
parcels
and
the
conditional
uses
we'll
be
talking
about
just
momentarily,
but
the
location,
as
you've
indicated,
is
adjacent
immediately
adjacent
to
city
of
augusta
and
within
walking,
distance
or
bicycling
distance
of
downtown
destinations.
In
fact,
the
city
of
guestra
boundaries
wraps
around
this
site
on
three
different
sites.
The
northern
side
along
the
highway
frontage
is,
is
unincorporated
st
charles
county,
as
are
the
two
parcels
in
question.
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The
2030
future
land
use
map
recommends
rural
residential
uses
for
these
two
specific
parcels
and
it's
adjacent
to
recommended
agricultural
tourism
land
uses.
Additionally,
in
2012,
st
charles
county,
adopted
an
agricultural
tourism
land
use
plan,
and
that
plan
is
made
part
of
the
record
for
tonight's
meeting.
It's
included
in
your
packet
and
is
is
part
of
the
consideration
that
agriculture,
tourism
landings
plan
was
an
official
amendment
to
the
county's
2025
master
plan
and
the
agricultural
tourism
land
use
plan
includes
the
subject
properties
in
the
agricultural
tourism
area
and
designates
the
location
as
a
future.
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Village
development
and
again
a
copy
of
the
plan,
is,
is
attached,
in
conformance
with
that
plan
that
was
added
to
our
county's
master
plan.
Saint
charles
county
council
in
2013
amended
the
zoning
regulations
to
create
an
agricultural
tourism
district
that
would
implement
the
goals
and
objectives
of
that
plan.
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So
with
that
plan,
it's
basically
wanting
to
do
two
things:
one
preserve
the
rural
character
of
southwestern,
st
charles
county,
but
at
the
same
time
allowing
a
limited
amount
of
commercial
uses
that
are
related
to
agriculture,
tourism,
but
in
a
way
that's
not
going
to
detract
from
the
the
rural
character
of
the
overall
region.
So
it's
wanting
to
do
really
both
it's
wanting
to
protect
the
rural
character
and
allow
economic
development.
That's
in
keeping
with
that
rural
setting
as
well.
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Rather
than
doing
that,
the
applicants
have
pursued
the
agricultural
tourism
district,
agricultural
tourism
district
zoning,
which
allows
specific
types
of
uses
with
a
conditional
use
permit,
but
in
a
very
limited
way,
what
I
mean
by
in
a
very
limited
way,
no
more
than
seven
percent
of
the
site
can
be
developed.
For
instance,
the
development
of
the
site
must
incur
must
occur
basically
in
the
middle
of
the
property,
except
for,
if
you
have
some
existing
buildings
along
the
edge,
you
can
reuse
those.
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The
district
requires
a
maximum
lot
size
of
40
acres,
which
this
meets
and
also
requires
a
minimum
of
five
acres
of
wine.
Grapes
being
grown
on
the
property
and
those
are
those
two
standards
would
be
met.
I
mentioned
the
the
the
limitation
of
the
seven
percent
of
the
total
site
that
can
be
developed.
Also,
the
agricultural
tourism
district
includes
architectural
standards,
which
we
don't
include
for
other
districts
or
other
uses,
and
these
architectural
standards
are
specific
and
they're
honestly
they're
rigorous.
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County
staff
is
recommending
that
the
planning
zoning
commission
recommend
that
the
county
council
approve
the
zoning
map
amendment,
and
I
would
note
for
everyone
that
the
county
has
received
many
communications
concerning
this
and
the
the
conditional
use
permit
applications.
All
of
those
communications
are
part
of
the
record.
We
have
summon
support,
meeting
opposition
and
some
communications
of
concerns,
and
again
all
of
those
in
individual
communication.
Written
communications
are
are
made
part
of
the
record.
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Okay,
thank
you
robert.
I
have
a
question,
so
you
said,
seven
percent
of
the
land
use
can
be
improved
so
on
this
size,
property,
seven
percent
would
be
roughly
about
5.5
acres.
Does
that
include
site
improvements
too?
In
other
words,
that
include
parking
any
outbuildings,
any
kind
of
site
improvements,
or
is
that
seven
percent
apply
strictly
to
the
full?
You
know
residential
or
commercial
type
of
use.
What
is
that
seven
percent
detail.
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I
do
believe
also
that
he
was
clear
in
stating
that
this
is
a
fairly
simple
process
here,
the
first
three,
the
first
of
three
parts-
I
don't
know
if
I
can
elaborate
too
much
more
with
regard
to
the
rezoning,
although
I'm
sure
there'll,
be
plenty
to
speak
about
on
items
two
and
three.
What
I
can
reiterate
is
that
the
idea
is
indeed
to
have
this
area
rezoned
in
a
manner
that
is
already
in
place
for
st
louis
county,
I'm
sorry,
st
charles
county,
and
that
is
the
agricultural
tourism.
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No,
what
I
was
referring
to
is
in
the
county's
master
plan
amendment
for
the
agricultural
tourism
district.
It
designates
the
specific
area
for
what
it
calls
a
village
development
and
it's
the
the
concept
for
that
is
just
a
little
bit
different
than
it
would
be
if
it
were
in
the
middle
of
nowhere.
So
to
speak.
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I
just
know
in
mr
hoffman's
video
he
mentioned
on
that
same
property
that
he
wants
to
also
build
horse
stables.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
will
encompass
his
six
acres
because
it
sounds
like
the
hotel
that
he
wishes
to
build
will
take
up
quite
a
bit
of
that
property.
So
I
just
want
to
make
you
aware
that
that
was
in
his
video.
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My
main
concern
is
our
church.
Property
lies
right.
Next
to
that
not
as
concerned,
I
guess,
with
the
hotel
per
se,
possibly
the
size
of
it.
There
is
some
concern
with
the
amount
of
trees
he's
taken
out
at
other
locations
and
if
it
stays
nestled
down
in
that
area,
away
from
the
church
property
that
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
a
lot
of
extra
trash
and
noise.
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
that.
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Because
I
think
that
will
go
a
long
ways
to
help
on
noise
control
if
some
of
those
trees
are
left
undisturbed
and
certainly
will
help
you
know
like
in
our
on
our
church
property
as
well.
So
that's
our
big
concern.
A
lot
of
people
in
the
area
just
don't
want
to
see
happen.
What
they've
seen
happen
at
the
other
two
wineries
that
all
these
trees
are
gone
and
then
it's
too
late?
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Yes,
yes,
I
would
firstly
thank
you
for
your
interest
in
your
input.
I
would
like
to
note
that,
regarding
the
horse
stables,
it
is
true
that
the
hoffmans
are
horse
friendly,
but
they
are
looking
to
place
the
horse
stables
at
a
location
other
than
this
one.
So
his
comments
earlier
about
horse
stables
are
true,
but
not
necessarily
or
not.
At
this.
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Most
of
what
you're
developing
is
specifically
right.
There
that's
correct,
yeah,
okay,
are
there
any
out
buildings?
I
think
that's
really
what
the
app
the
person
was
addressing
is
is
they
said
specifically
in
the
horse
barn,
but
they're.
Also,
I
think,
a
greater
concern
of
what
other
types
of
improvements
right
are
going
to
go
on
that
property.
N
Well,
you
can
see
on
the
map
here
that
the
as
I
mentioned,
the
lion's
share
of
the
of
the
development,
I'm
not
certain
if
this
works,
but
the
lion
share
development
is
centralized
and
then
at
the
what
we'll
call
the
top
off
of
highway
94.
There
are
a
couple
of
existing
buildings
that
may
be
able
to
be
repurposed
for
a
new
life.
One
is
a
very
old
barn
that
could
be
used
as
as
a
bit
of
a
what's
called
a
folly
or
or
something
that
kind
of
draws.
N
Your
attention
to
this,
this
farm,
agricultural,
tourism,
location,
the
other
one,
is
a
single
family
residence
which
could
be
repurposed
to
a
maybe
a
gift,
shop
or
or
wine
tasting,
or
something
to
that
effect.
But
it
is
an
existing
residence
of
relatively
small
size
that
we're
not
looking
necessarily
to
expand,
but
perhaps
repurpose.
N
Yeah
and
I'd
like
to
to
take
that
back,
I
misspoke
we
have
52
000
square
feet
under
roofing,
but
that
calculates
to-
and
I
apologize
that
calculates
to
a
little
under
1.5
acres
of
actual
development.
Now
there
are
some
areas,
such
as
parking
that
mr
myers
mentioned,
that
also
kind
of
add
to
that
1.5.
So
we
start
trickling
upwards,
but
as
understood
by
all
here,
the
the
acreage
is
more
than
40.
N
In
fact
it's
77,
so
we
do
have
plenty
of
space
that
we
don't
that
we
can
dedicate
to
basically
remaining
open
space
and
forested.
In
fact,
we
plan
to
to
kind
of
utilize,
if
you
will
the
forested
areas
to
help
this
be
an
enclave.
After
all,
it
is
something
that
we
want
to
be
desirable
and
that
people
will
want
to
come
and
be
at
because
of
where
it
is
and
the
features
that
it
offers
sure.
A
N
N
You
know,
of
course,
to
build
so
that
will
lower
us
a
little
bit
hunker
us
down
a
little
bit
more,
but
for
the
benefit
of
the
guests,
you
know
we're
not
in
a
sunken
hole,
but
we're
kind
of
perched
a
little
bit
within
our
enclave
and
for
the
benefit
of
everyone
else,
driving
by
or
in
the
town.
You
do
go
down
first
before
you
come
back
up,
so
it's
not
quite
it's
not
quite
as
high
as
one
might
think.
N
Well,
we
do
have
plans,
but
first
of
all,
there
are
some
vineyards
on
the
land
as
it
is,
and
we
do
have
plans
to
increase
those
vineyards,
not
the
least
of
which
to
make
certain
that
we
meet
the
requirements
of
of
the
five
acres
minimum.
But
since
it
is
a
a
winery
town
and
a
winery
based
agricultural
tourism
facility,
the
the
notion
of
of
more
grapes
is
just
you
know,
the
more
the
better.
So
there
will
be
in
in.
There
will
be
introduced
more
vineyards
than
we
have
now.
S
A
A
I
Bark,
I
just
want
to
clarify
and
make
sure
that
I'm
understanding
correctly,
this
particular
vote
is
only
on
the
zoning
correct.
It's
not
on
anything
specific.
That's
going
to
be
done
here,
it's
not
on
what
they're
building.
It's
simply
is
this
piece
of
land
going
to
be
zoned
as
agricultural
tourism
and,
as
I've
been
looking
at
the
master
plan
it,
it
appears
that
this
piece
of
land
is
pretty
much
surrounded
or
at
least
on
the
northern
side,
with
areas
that
are
already
in
the
master
plan.
As
agricultural
tourism
am.
I
I
K
I
I
can
assure
you
that
at
the
time
that
we
discussed
this,
we
we
never
imagined
a
a
project
of
this
magnitude,
okay,
but
the
the
the
concept
of
of
rezoning
this
into
you
know
what
we're
talking
about
was
certainly
on
the
minds
of
the
county
council
seven
eight
years
ago,
when
this
was
when
this
was
done.
So
you
know,
as
for
the
zoning
part
of
it,
I
I
think
that
this
this
property
does
meet
most
of
those
requirements.
A
M
E
A
A
A
A
Property
owners
edgewood
highway
94
number
one
llc
and
zero
church
street
llc.
The
applicant
is
edgewood
highway,
94
number
one
llc
and
zero
church
street
llc
again.
The
current
zoning
is
a
agricultural.
The
requesting
is
at
agricultural
tourism
recommended
use
again
is
rural
residential.
The
conditional
use
request
is
for
conference
event
slash
lodging
center.
The
parcel
size
is
79.39
acres
again,
it's
on
the
south
side
of
highway
94
south
between
church
street
and
jackson,
street
adjacent
to
the
city
of
augusta
staff.
G
As
stated
this,
this
conditional
use
permit
application
is
for
the
same
property
as
we're
just
speaking
about,
but
instead
of
speaking
about,
instead
of
discussing
the
the
concept
of,
is
this
the
right
place
for
this
type
of
zoning?
We're
talking
about
a
very
specific
development?
Is
this
the
right
development
for
this
location?
G
The
proposed
conference
event
lodging
center
would
incorporate
also
a
host
of
other
services
that
would
be
intended
for
lodging
guests,
including
a
restaurant,
a
swimming
pool,
sauna,
steam
room
and
yoga
room
personal
surfaces
such
as
hair
care,
skin
care
and
nail
salon,
outdoor
recreation,
such
as
walking
trails
and
a
pickleball
court
and
an
event
coordination
wedding
planning.
I
mentioned
those
because
those
uses
are
intended
to
be
marketed
for
the
the
guests
at
the
lodge.
G
This
would
be
in
that
same
quarter
of
classification.
Those
services
are
considered
to
be
subsidiary
or
insulated
ancillary
for
the
overall
guest
lodge
and
event
space.
The
conditional
use
permit
requirements
of
saint
charles
county.
We
have
generalized
ones
that
we
use
for
all
conditions,
permanent
applications,
and
then
we
have
very
specific
ones
for
agricultural
tourism
land
uses.
G
On
for
these
questions,
I
would
just
make
an
overall
statement,
and
that
is
that
a
major
consideration
is
that
there
is
existing
development
on
three
sides,
so,
unlike
a
remote
location
where
you
might
have
a
winery
with
all
just
woodlands
around
it
or
agriculture
land
around
it,
the
context
of
this
is
there's
residences
and
other
uses,
for
instance,
there's
a
cemetery
there's
school,
etc.
That
border
the
subject
site
now.
G
Having
said
that,
the
agricultural
tourism
district
rules
are
written
such
that
they
can
only
develop
seven
percent
and
in
the
center
of
the
property,
essentially
they
have
to
be
buildings
have
to
be
at
least
150
feet
away
from
property
boundaries,
etc.
We'll
get
into
that
just
a
moment.
You'll
notice
on
this
concept
plan,
which
is
part
of
the
application
and
would
go
to
the
county
council
for
their
consideration
that
this
concept
plan
includes
those
dark,
green
areas
which
are
existing
woodlands
and
which
would
be
preserved.
G
G
But
beyond
that,
you'll
see
dark,
green
and
those
are
existing
woodlands
or
tree
stands
that
would
be
preserved
as
part
of
the
application.
So
should
this
be
approved
or
approved
with
conditions,
one
condition
typically
would
be.
Any
development
has
to
take
place
in
conformance
with
the
concept
plan.
G
So
the
the
concept
plan
that
they
were
proposed
is
what's
under
consideration
tonight
and
is
essentially,
you
might
call
it
a
binding
agreement.
If
should
it
be,
should
this
be
approved?
The
question
was
asked:
well,
how
do
we?
How
would
the
county
enforce
tree
removal,
and
we
would
do
that
and
with
our
enforcement
staff?
If
we
get
a
report
that
trees
are
being
removed,
for
instance,
we
would
we
would
determine
whether
it's
a
violation
of
the
conditional
use
permit.
G
So
I
mentioned
specific
conditional
use,
permit
requirements
and
I'll
I'll
just
characterize
these.
These
are
covered
more
clearly
in
your
more
in
detail
in
your
ordinance,
but
the
site
must
have
at
least
40
acres,
which
this
does
there's.
The
seven
percent
requirement
that
we
talked
about
maximum
seven
percent
development.
Buildings
must
be
150
feet
from
perimeter
lot
lines
there.
Can
these
cups
for
in
the
agricultural
tourism
district
can
be
no
closer
to
each
other
than
one
half
mile?
G
Use
of
roof
lines
and
wall
planes
that
provide
architectural
character
and
interest,
also
preservation
of
natural
forest
lands
and
tree
covers
and
there's
height
restrictions
as
well.
So
I
can
say
that
the
concept
that's
been
proposed
to
us.
We've
done
a
preliminary
analysis
and
county
staff
can
say
that
it
meets
all
of
the
minimum
requirements.
G
Essentially,
it
will
need
to
meet
the
maximal
height
of
buildings,
requirement
that
the
county
has
so
with
that
county
staff
is
recommending
that
planning
zoning
commission
recommend
approval
with
specific
conditions,
and
those
conditions
would
include
conformance
to
the
site
plan
maintenance
in
a
healthy
condition
of
the
trees
that
are
located
on
the
concept
plan
and
also,
I
can
propose
condition
for
events
so
that
it
will
limit
the
number
of
hours.
So,
for
instance,
if
they
held
a
specific
event
that
amplified
music,
for
instance,
would
not
go
past
a
certain
time
in
the
evening.
E
B
E
Let's
say
worst
case
scenario:
you
know
some
people
had
said
that
at
other
places
they
cut
down
trees
they
weren't
supposed
to.
Let's
say
they
do
start
cutting
down
a
bunch
of
trees,
they're
not
supposed
to
what
is
the
penalty
for
that,
because
that
was
a
question
of
just
about
everybody.
Here
is
right.
B
F
G
There's
not
been
a
traffic
study
to
my
knowledge.
Now,
I'm
we've
been
talking
with
the
highway
department
and
they
feel
confident
that,
in
order
to
get
the
permit
from
missouri
department
of
transportation
for
their
driveway
permit,
because
only
the
commercial
driveway
entrance
onto
highway
94
that
they
will,
that
modot
will
require
traffic
study.
For
instance,
will
there
be
a
turn
lane
necessary
to
get
onto
this
site
our
deceleration
lane?
Those
are
questions
that
modot
will
address.
E
So
if
they,
if
they
have
an
event
where
there's
500
additional
people
coming
in
like
a
concert
or
a
large
wedding
or
any
type
of
conference,
no
doubt
we'll
we'll,
hopefully,
then
can
we
make
as
a
condition
of
some
type
of
you
know,
a
turn
lane
added
there,
because
a
two-lane
road
with
that
much
traffic
depending
on
the
time
of
day
or
night
can
be.
I
mean
somebody
could
be
sitting
there
forever,
waiting
for
an
event
to
clear
or
come
in
or
out
that
type
of
thing.
E
G
You
can
now,
I
think,
since
they're
proposing
access
from
highway
94.
I
think
modot
will
be
control
that
question,
but
you
can
make
a
recommendation,
certainly
to
modot.
I
don't
know
that
I
would
buy
them,
but
and
in
terms
of
special
events-
yeah,
that's
that's
a
good
good
thing
to
think
about.
In
this
case
they
have
a
very
long
driveway
going
into
their
parking
lot.
So
I
think
luckily
there
would
be
less
problems
with
stacking
of
of
cars
to
get
in
in
and
off
the
property.
E
T
E
G
Okay,
now
with
it,
I
can
say
that
there's,
I
think
60
rooms
proposed
for
the
the
lodging
so
that
it
gives
you
a
sense
of
what
the
traffic
is
for
that
for
special
events.
I
think
the
applicants
could
probably
answer
for
the
maximum
size
for
the
wedding
venues
that
we've
been
reviewing
regularly.
It's
typically
been
in
this
area
in
the
rural
residential
area.
G
They
typically
been
around
for
about
200
200
guests,
that's
not
to
say
that
there
couldn't
be
more
here,
but
that's
been
our
typical
when
you
get
over
200
people
in
the
same
room,
there's
some
different
requirements
for
sprinklers
and
and
exiting,
and
things
like
that.
So
for
that
reason
some
of
these
facilities
have
intended
to
stay
under
the
200
guests
in
the
room
at
any
one
time,
but.
G
N
Well,
as
was
hinted
at,
we
do
only
have
200
parking
spaces
on
the
site,
so
you
know
we're
kind
of
using
that
as
our
starting
point
and
working
downward
again
we're
trying
to
attract
a
more
intimate
environment
or
create
a
more
intimate
environment.
That's
conducive
and
kind
of
derivative
of
this
of
the
area
instead
of
bring
in
you
know
something
else.
Okay,.
A
B
B
A
N
U
F
N
This
one
does
show
a
remote
parking
that
would
be
in
this
case
valet
parking,
or
it
would
be
parking
that
the
guests
would
would
park
for
themselves
and
we
have
a
little
shuttle,
so
they
don't
have
to
you
know:
walk
up.
There
is
a
turnaround
up
front,
of
course,
so
they
can
drop
things
off
as
well,
but
essentially
speaking,
it
is
a
facility
with
three
major
elements:
the
hotel
lodge,
that
is,
the
sort
of
a
main
central
building
and
then
a
hotel
or
guest
rooms
off
to
the
side.
N
It's
not
particularly
large,
as
mentioned
at
60,
65
rooms
or
so
and
again,
that's
in
in
the
spirit
of
of
taking
advantage
of
the
intimacy
of
the
site
and
then
there's
a
restaurant
there's
a
restaurant
that
would
be
on
site
as
well
as
described
earlier,
and
and
also
a
spa.
Your
microphone
went
off.
Is
it
hello,
okay,
so
there's
a
restaurant
that
would
also
be
part
of
the
facility
and
a
spa
as
well.
That
has
a
pool
you
can
see
here
that
the
pool
and
the
spa
are
on
the
south
side
of
the
facility.
N
A
N
N
N
The
as
far
as
the
church,
that's
in
the
upper
right,
we
do
plan
on
screening
any
parking
that
we
have
there
by
additional
plantings.
You
know
far
from
taking
the
plantings
out,
I
mean
there
will
be
some
out
and
some
end
that
will,
but,
generally
speaking,
we
do
want
to
make
certain
that
the
church
and
the
cemetery
there
gets
proper
treatment
by
screening
from
our
our
parking
there
there's
not
a
lot
of
activity
at
parking
and
it's
at
grade
level.
N
A
R
Elliot
reed,
with
cochran
engineering,
530a,
east
independence,
drive
union,
okay,
go
ahead,
ellie,
there's
very
good
points,
brought
up
with
the
traffic
study
and
the
entrance,
and,
quite
honestly,
we're
not
to
that
point.
Yet
there
will
obviously
have
to
be
a
traffic
study
performed
which
we
are
in
the
in
the
middle
of
now.
Getting
that
rolling
mo
dot
will
require
that
for
the
entrance
onto
highway
94
and
as
staff
stated,
they
will
also
require
a
commercial
interest.
Permit
site
distance
will
be
an
issue
trips
in
and
out
that'll
be
part
of
the
traffic
study.
A
F
R
A
A
R
U
Mr
cleary,
if
I
might
just
add
a
few
points
concerning
something
mr
myers
mentioned
earlier
about
this,
drawing
up
here,
being
a
binding
agreement
that
this
was
submitted
rather
early
in
our
process
and
the
design
continues
to
evolve,
but
not
too
far
from
what
you
see
there
I
mean.
Will
we
be
able
to
make
some
adjustments
to
that
plan
up
there.
G
U
G
And
so
that's
we
consider
that
the
concept
plan
and
yes,
there's
in
the
ordinance
it
does
have
allowance
for
adjustments
within
you
know,
has
specifics.
You
know
within
10
percent
of
the
the
building
footprint
is
within
10
percent
of
the
concept
plan.
Things
like
that.
So,
yes,
there's
there's
possibilities
for
adjustment.
U
B
U
Obviously,
as
our
civil
engineer
mentioned,
we've
got
to
deal
with
where
what's
the
safest
way
to
come
off
of
highway
94,
which
is
something
we're
thinking
about,
and
I
am
actually
the
author
of
that
plan
up
there
and
one
of
the
folks
out
here
made
a
comment
about
that
being
dangerous.
It's
something
I
noted
right
after
I
drew
it.
U
So
that's
something
we're
looking
at
to
maybe
go
a
little
bit
further
west,
but
I'll
leave
that
up
to
elliott
in
the
in
the
state
on
that
one
and
just
a
few
things
as
far
as
trees
go
we've
drawn
this
to
like.
Maybe
we
have
to
knock
down
a
few
trees
to
get
through
to
our
site
from
the
front.
Not
many,
though
we
are
really
looking
to
maintain
as
many
trees
as
we
possibly
can.
The
owners
have
gave
us
the
direction
that
they
want
to
have
this
site
feel
isolated.
U
A
U
U
H
K
K
K
U
F
A
A
This
will
end
your
comments.
Okay,
now
we're
opening
this
up
to
the
public,
and
if
you
have
any
questions
comments,
we'll
take
note
of
that,
we
will
bring
the
applicant
back
up
and
address
those
items.
Please
remember
to
fill
out
a
speaker
card
if
you
so
wish
to
do
some.
So
if
anyone
like
to
speak
on
this,
please
come
forward.
A
O
O
O
94
is
not
equipped
for
the
traffic
that
he's
going
to
bring
to
this
area.
It's
dangerous.
It's
narrow!
The
venues
involve
alcohol.
There's
many
many
accidents
out
here.
I've
sat
at
the
end
of
my
road
in
the
fall
for
five
minutes
waiting
to
get
out.
That's
before
all
this
proposed
development,
our
farmers.
This
is
an
agricultural
area.
Our
farmers
still
have
to
get
their
equipment
up
and
down
this
road.
They
still
work
these
farms,
the
men
may
live
on
highway
tea
and
they
have
farms
in
defiance
that
they've
got
to
get
their
combines.
O
They've
got
to
get
their
tractors,
they've
got
to
get
them
down
there.
Augusta
is
not
equipped
for
this
situation.
The
infrastructure
is
not
there.
The
road
is
not
there.
It's
too
much.
I
think
the
whole
development
is
just
beyond
the
pale
and,
like
I
said,
I
don't
think
we
want
to
live
in
a
sideshow.
I
don't
want
to
look
at
a
zip
line
from
my
house,
which,
unfortunately
I'll
have
to
if
he
puts
one
up
there.
O
A
A
W
W
It
is
a
blind
curve
and
we
have
lived
here
for
12
years,
my
husband
and
I,
and
we
have
seen
many
accidents
on
94,
including
helicopters,
taking
people
out
on
klondike
hill,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
people
that
are
drunk
on
the
weekends
and
some
people
that
aren't,
and
so
my
concern
with
this
is
how
much
traffic
is
this
going
to
be
bringing
in
and
what
is
it
going
to
do
to
the
area?
More
deaths,
more
injuries?
W
We
actually
my
husband
and
I
had
to
take
someone
to
the
hospital
whose
best
friend
was
in
a
motorcycle
accident
on
94,
near
klondike
hill
and
she
ended
up
dying.
She
was
a
mother
of
three
children
and
it
was
horrible,
so
I
know
that
we
can't
prevent
all
accidents,
but
what
can
we
do
to
mitigate
the
danger
of
94.?
W
W
W
Okay,
okay,
so
my
con,
that's,
my
main
concern
is
the
traffic
and
the
the
rural
feel
of
the
area.
We
grew.
I
I've
known
augusta
since
1987.
I
have
driven
through
there
for
work
always
wanted
to
live
here.
We
moved
in
2009
and
we
love
the
rural
atmosphere.
We
love
the
look.
We
love
that
and
according
to
your
use
plan,
you
are
trying
to
limit
the
development
while
protecting
the
agricultural
feel
look
and
the
beauty
of
the
area,
and
I
think
that's
very
important,
and
my
concern
is
what
will
this
do
to
that?
A
X
X
F
A
Q
Q
A
F
Y
A
lot
of
questions
have
been
covered.
My
question
is
regarding
the
amplified
music.
I
didn't
hear
a
timeline
specified,
but
I
think
I
did
read
10
p.m.
You
know
if,
as
I
think,
as
the
architect
stated,
if
it's
an
acoustic
guitar
till
10
p.m,
that's
one
thing:
if
it's
a
rock
band
until
10
p.m,
that's
something
else!
I
don't
know.
If
there's
going
to
be
any
controls
around
that
or
you
know,
I
would
just
recommend,
because
I
don't
think
over
time.
Y
You
know
we
can
necessarily
control
what
type
of
music
is
played
and
how
loud
it
is.
So
I
would
like
to
see
the
length
of
time
for
an
amplified
outdoor
music
to
be
shorter
than
10
p.m.
Currently,
most
of
the
wineries,
I
think.
Well,
I
think
it's
still
the
case
with
the
new
owners
shut
down
around
five
o'clock.
A
F
Y
Z
A
AA
F
AA
That's
my
comment
at
a
high
level
now
from
a
safety
which
is
obviously
the
most
important,
a
lot
of
people
have
talked
about
the
entrance
onto
highway
94..
There
is
a
road
there
schindler,
which
is
the
road
that
my
mom
has
a
house
on,
and
so
that
road,
I
don't
know
if
you're
familiar
with
it
or
not.
But
when
you
come
out
on
that
road
onto
highway
94,
it
goes
down
in
both
directions.
AA
AA
So
that
is
really
a
concern,
and
I
really
would
invite.
I
guess
it's
probably
not
going
to
happen,
but
somebody
on
the
city,
council
or
perhaps
mr
myers-
to
go
out
there
and
actually
look
at
the
fall
of
the
land
in
terms
of
how
that
goes,
because
if
you
have
people
coming
from
st
louis,
which
is
where
they're
all
going
to
come
and
they're
stopped
on
that
road.
AA
Trying
to
turn
left
going
into
that
development
they're
going
to
back
up-
and
somebody
is
going
to
come
up
over
that
hill
and
run
right
into
the
back
of
them
and
there's
going
to
be
a
tragedy.
There's
definitely
going
to
be
a
tragedy
and
it's
either
going
to
be
a
local.
Or
it's
going
to
be.
Somebody
visiting
that
hotel
and
so
again,
for
that
reason
alone.
I
think
this
is
way
premature.
I
do
not
think
that
we
want
to
delegate
this
to
state
of
missouri.
AA
AA
Walk
the
property
with
the
inspectors,
put
a
tree
fence
up
to
clearly
delineate
which
trees
are
protected
so
that
there
is
complete
transparency
there
for
everybody,
so
that
he
cannot
just
go
in
and
say:
oh,
no,
no
those
trees
were
okay
to
be
cut
down
and
then
also
vote
now
to
put
a
fine
in
place
on
each
tree.
I
don't
know
ten
thousand
dollars
a
tree.
AA
Do
that
now,
so
that
that
cannot
happen
and
then
also
think
about
the
trees
from
highway
94
right,
because
they
want
to
create
this
bucolic
place
in
the
middle
of
the
woods.
But
what
about
the
people
that
lived
there
and
drive
on
highway?
94
and
moved
there
because
it
was
so
beautiful
and
serene,
so
the
council
needs
to
give
consideration
to
how
many
trees
are
going
to
be
cut
down
to
create
this
entrance
with
regards
to
the
outdoor
amphitheater.
AA
Anybody
who's
been
to
the
augusta
area
knows
that
you
don't
need
an
outdoor
amphitheater
to
have
a
big
concert.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
people
love
to
sit
on
the
lawn,
so
this
needs
to
be
given
consideration
and
there
needs
to
be
limits
put
in
place
as
to
the
number
of
people
that
can
be
there
for
an
event.
Other
things,
noise,
we
talked
about
the
bands.
This
gentleman
was
correct.
This
is
in
the
center
of
the
town,
the
music
rises.
AA
You
can
hear
on
schindler
road
down
at
the
end,
the
music
from
mount
pleasant,
which
is
two
or
three
miles
away.
By
the
way
you
asked
about
weddings,
I
got
married
at
mount
pleasant.
The
music
was
inside
and
by
the
way
it
had
to
be
done
at
nine
o'clock,
not
ten
o'clock,
so
there's
all
sorts
of
little
details
that
really
need
to
be
taken
into
account
here.
AA
Fireworks
in
st
louis
people
love
to
go
to
the
high
dollar
venues
and
I'm
amazed
at
the
number
of
people
who
seem
to
have
ten
or
twenty
thousand
dollars
to
blow
off
in
fireworks
at
the
end
of
a
wedding.
I'm
sure
it's
beautiful,
but
it's
very
annoying
when
you're
trying
to
put
a
child
to
sleep
or
you're
trying
to
go
to
sleep
yourself
so
has
that
been
considered
with
regards
to
the
road?
The
civil
engineer
here
said
that
six
percent
is
not
steep.
AA
I
just
googled
it
on
wikipedia
and
six
percent
is
actually
the
maximum
allowable
grade
on
the
federal
highway
system,
a
federal
highway.
So
I
mean
just
consider
that
when
you're
thinking
about
this
and
then
finally
I
guess
we
will
get
to
the
helipad.
But
I
don't
want
to
get
back
up
here
again.
That
location
is
abhorrent.
AA
Any
like
thing
like
that,
right
by
the
highway
again,
is
going
to
distract
drivers
as
they're
driving
by
they're,
going
to
be
looking
at
the
helicopter
landing
they're
going
to
be
looking
at
the
balloon
going
up
and
down
they're
going
to
either
drive
off
or
they're
going
to
drive
into
somebody
or
they're
going
to
rearrange
somebody,
but
that
helipad
right
next
to
a
cemetery
is
just
it's.
It's
important
the
fact
that
anybody
would
even
propose
that
is
absolutely
crazy.
AA
A
AB
AB
My
father
has
been
a
volunteer
fire
department,
member
in
the
usa
area
for
40
years
and
there's
many
people
who
have
been
volunteer
members
for
a
long
period
of
time
and
going
back
20
years
ago,
when
a
lot
of
the
whiners
really
started
hopping,
you
had
a
weekend.
It
happened
every
weekend
where
there
was
wrecks
just
because
people
don't
know
the
highway.
AB
So
I
guess
what
my
point
is
to
try
to
keep
in
mind
the
locals,
who
are
a
fire
department,
what
they
are
putting
up
with,
because
they
are
volunteers
and
to
go
with
what
other
people
have
said.
If
you
actually
visit
this
location,
I'm
personally,
he
can
do
what
he
wants
this
property,
but
it
comes
to
public
safety.
AB
And
so
maybe
it's
not
your
fault,
based
not
the
developer's
fault.
But
just
something
to
keep
in
mind
is
that
this
is
quite
possibly
the
most
dangerous
area
in
augusta,
where
you
could
have
any
kind
of
backup.
I
can't
see
where
you
can
have
a
private
drive
there
without
a
lot
of
landscaping
being
done,
because,
just
in
general,
that's
a
bad
spot.
So
please
just
keep
locals
in
mind,
especially
the
volunteers
who
are,
if
you
have
accidents
they're
the
ones
who
are
having
to
report
for
this.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
T
T
T
It's
it
can
be.
Nuts
like.
I
pull
out,
try
to
go
fast
enough
and
then
someone's
right
on
my
butt.
I
also
ride
motorcycle
and
I
know
what
it's
like
to
sit
there
and
wait
for
cars
wondering
if
I'm
going
to
get
hit
from
someone
coming
around
the
corner.
So
everything
that
was
said
is
true.
I
just
have
to
come
up
and
just
to
make
it
that
important.
That's
a
really
dangerous
turn.
There
are
hills.
There
are
trees.
I
live
it.
I
drive
it
every
day.
Just
want
to
put
my
two
cents
in.
A
Z
A
AC
A
AC
That
was
supposed
to
be
five
acre
lots
right
turned
into
trus
all
residential.
Now
we
have
on
70
80
acres.
We
have
about
500
houses,
there's
people
in
st
paul.
That
would
rather
have
a
winery
sitting
there.
Instead
of
having
all
these
homes
getting
built
up,
they're
pushing
more
residential
homes
out
now
than
there
ever
was.
So
if
you
look
at
both
sides,
all
the
grounds
being
built
up
in
saint
charles
county,
it's
all
getting
pushed
towards
you
guys,
regardless
or
not.
AC
F
A
A
R
The
only
thing
that
can
be
done
for
on
the
design
perspective
is
designing
to
mode
out
regulations
period
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
reason
that
they
have
site
distance
requirements
for
a
certain
speed
limit
is
for
safety.
Modot
is
not
going
to
allow
an
entrance
in
a
certain
location
unless
we
meet
all
those
guidelines.
Grades,
distance
entrance
width,
everything
lane
turning
lanes.
I
R
This
is
correct
as
part
of
the
traffic
study.
They
look
at
the
development
rooms
in
the
hotel
seats
in
the
restaurant,
whatever
other
amenities
there
are
on
the
property
and
how
many
trips
that
will
generate
in
a
certain
hour,
and
then
that
goes
into
the
study
and
they
analyze
well.
In
a
certain
hour,
you're
going
to
have
whatever
five
six
seven
ten
lefts
is
that
allowable
on
94,
with
a
given
sight,
distance
or
not,
and
if
it
is
not,
then
you're
going
to
need
to
add
a
left
turn
lane.
I
I
No,
I'm
just
saying.
Okay,
I'm
just
saying
that.
I
think
that
we
all
agree
that
highway
94
is
dangerous,
okay,
and
so
what
I'm
saying
is
any
any
chance
that
we
could
get
to
make
it
safer
for
the
people
that
are
using
it
is
is
a
positive.
That's
all
I'm
saying
I
mean
I'm
not
an
expert
on
traffic,
I'm
not
an
expert
on
how
we
should
do
it,
but
that's
that's
modoff's
job,
so
correct.
R
A
R
R
R
H
A
Let's
see
no
particular
okay,
it's
one
of
the
things
again,
and
this
is
maybe
for
the
architect
what
height
is
elevation
in
the
rooftops
and
what?
What
are
the
distances
from
the
let's
say,
both
from
jackson
and
from
church?
You
know
where
what
how
high
are
those
rooftops
gonna
be?
It
looks
like
at
least
it's
gonna
be
at
least
a
couple
stories
high
in
place.
N
Well,
as
as
you
are,
you
are
correct
that
the
development
itself,
again
keeping
with
being
sort
of
fitting
in,
is
only
two
to
three
stories
tall
at
its
at
its
highest
floor
level.
The
third
story
is
mainly
for
the
central
area,
and
you
know,
as
we
branch
off
to
the
guest
rooms,
that's
only
a
two-story
area
we're
looking
at
having
decent
ceiling
heights
inside.
N
N
It's
possible,
I
think,
within
the
rules
that
the
very
tip
top
of
a
gabled
roof
could
be
perhaps
at
40
feet
if
they
measure
35
feet
at
the
center
line,
or
you
know,
there's
a
certain
protocol
they
use.
So
you
know
you
might
see
some
some
pitched
roofs.
I
know
I
was
out
at
the
site
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
and
I
could
you
know,
see
the
church
steeple,
which
is
quite
high
over
the
trees
and
whatnot,
and
you
know
there
are
some
points
that
may
see
part
of
our
steeple.
A
A
Okay:
okay.
Thank
you.
Let's
see,
there
was
also
a
discussion
about
the
the
music
and
I
think
that's
something
that
we
probably
will
discuss
here
and
then
there
was
questions
about
where
you're
gonna
water
is
gonna
come
in
from
and
what
are
you
gonna
do
in
terms
of
the
disbursement
or
retention
of
water?
Obviously,
if
you
build
up
the
back
end,
a
little
bit
water
is
gonna.
Come
off
that
where's
that
water
going
to
go.
How
are
you
going
to
retain
it.
R
St
charles
county
has
strict
stormwater
detention
requirements
or
water
quality
requirements
as
well.
Those
will
all
be
met
as
as
part
of
the
development,
the
details
of
how
and
where
the
water
is
going
to
be
stored,
haven't
been
worked
out
at
this
point,
but
as
the
construction
drawings
are
developed,
they'll
obviously
have
to
meet
all
the
county's
code.
With
respect
to
those.
R
R
A
R
It
does
not
plan
to
have
a
septic
or
lagoon
that's
planned
to
tie
into
the
city
of
augusta's
treatment
plant
system.
We
had
a
conversation
with
public
water
number
two
go
ahead.
Please
let
the
gentlemen
speak
good.
We
had
a
conversation
with
public
water
number
two
actually
on
monday,
so
we'll
be
getting
conversations
with
them
to
make
sure
there's
enough
capacity
for
the
plant
and
if
there's
not
enough
capacity
for
the
plant,
then
we'll
make
the
capacity.
R
A
J
G
J
E
G
Yes,
yeah
sure,
certainly
right
you
can.
You
can
set
conditions
to
deal
with
noise,
for
instance,
sometimes
there's
different
hours
for
outdoor
amplified,
sound
versus
indoor
amplified
sound,
even
indoor
amplified
sound.
Typically,
we've
had
cutoffs
times
for
event
spaces,
because
one,
sometimes
the
doors
or
windows
are
open,
which
that
lets
out
more
noise,
or
sometimes
you
can
just
hear
it
through
the
walls
potentially.
So
we
with
with
special
event
spaces
and
then
incorporate
county.
We
have
been
typically
using
cutoff
times,
yeah,
okay,.
A
R
J
G
I
believe
that
if
the,
if
the
entrants
were
shifted,
that
it
would
constitute
a
minor
amendment,
so
if
it
were
a
major
amendment
like
if
they
decided
that
they
would
suddenly
take
access
instead,
off
of
you
know
a
different
street
like
internal
to
augusta,
that
would
be
a
major
change.
It
would
need
to
come
back,
but
I
think
if
they
moved
the
location,
in
conformance
with
modot's
requirements
for
safety,
that
would
be
a
minor
amendment
would
not
come
back.
A
So
it
okay,
gentlemen,
I
think
that's
it
for
right
now.
It's
also
been
suggested
that,
with
the
data
still
out
there
in
terms
of
the
the
disbursement
of
the
water
traffic
studies
and
things
like
that
that
perhaps
to
maybe
do
a
continuance
on
this
might
be
a
good
idea.
I
guess,
if
we
do
that,
I
guess
we'd
have
to
have
some
kind
of
motion
to
do
a
continuance,
but
we
can
certainly
discuss
it.
First
of
all,
here
too
yeah.
B
K
You
know,
first
of
all,
that
you
know
there
was
quite
a
you
know,
some
mention
about
zip
lines
and
golf
courses
and
all
those
other
kind
of
things.
You
know
please
understand
we're
only
here
for
this
particular
piece
of
property,
and
you
know
what
what
they
decide
to
do.
Other
places
obviously
is
going
to
have
to
go
through
a
similar
process
or
through
the
county
council
or
whatever
the
second
thing
and
a
lot
of
concern,
and
I
think
everybody
should
be
concerned
about
the
traffic.
K
One
thing
you
have
to
understand
in
my
experience
with
modot
is
that
when
they
come
out
and
they're
gonna
talk
to
these
folks
and
they're
gonna
make,
and
they
won't
give
me
recommendations,
they'll
make
you
know
specific.
This
is
what
needs
to
be
done,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
found
in
the
past
is
they
may
require
a
lot
and
the
reason
they
do.
That
is
because
they
don't
have
to
pay
for
it.
K
These
developers
are
going
to
have
to
pay
for
this
if
they're
going
to
put
a
third
lane
in
a
turning
lane,
whatever
all
right
in.
In
my
my
experience,
that's
that's
part
of
the
development
you
know
is
mo
dot
ordering
those
things.
I
know
you're
very
concerned
about
the
trees
and-
and
I
I
understand
why
you
are
because
of
the
ones
that
were
cut
down
at
the
specific
winery
that
you
mentioned,
but
as
mr
myers
mentioned,
this
is
a
different
time.
K
You
know
from
planning
and
zoning
community
development
that
you
know
this
is
this
is
not
a
a
blank
board
that
we
are
giving
them
what
what
they
have
up
there,
which
you
see
right
there.
You
know,
and
again
they
mentioned
that
it
might
not
be
a
hundred
percent
specific,
but
you
know
that's,
basically
what
the
county
will
hold
them
to
doing
is
what
you
see
there
if
this
is
approved,
so
those
are
just
some
points.
G
A
A
AE
A
J
K
L
A
F
M
I
E
G
Z
G
F
H
F
A
So
what
we
are
checking
on
right
now
is,
we
have
voted.
Three
of
us
have
voted
to
continue
it
and
what
they're
simply
doing
right
now
is
just
checking
the
ordinances
to
determine
if
it
needs
to
be
in
majority
or
if
it's
three,
so
if
you
all
can
have
patience
here
for
a
minute,
we
will
determine
that
and
then
go
forward
from
that
point.
AF
A
A
E
So
one
of
the
things
you
know
that
struck
me
is
is
talking
about
the
volunteer
fire
department
and
the
dangers
to
the
road.
They
have
limited
resources.
They're.
You
know
you
have
people
equipment,
those
types
of
things
you
know.
Is
there
something
we
can
put
in
place
to
help
with
with
that
as
a
consideration?
If
there's
you
know
an
increased
issue,
I
am
not
opposed
so
that
you
know
I'm
not
opposed
this
development.
E
I
am
concerned
because
I,
when
I
look
at
this
and
we
look
at
the
cup
analysis
number
one
is
the
question
is:
would
establishing
maintaining
or
operating
conditional
use
but
detrimental
or
to
endanger
public
health
safety
or
general
welfare?
Now
do
I
think
this
building
is
a
danger?
No,
but
I
do
hear
the
voice
of
the
people
that
there
is
a
concern
when
you
live
in
the
area
and
you
have
limited
resources
to
to
take
for
that.
K
What
could
make
you
know?
One
of
the
things
that
I
think
that
we
have
to
understand
is
that
once
modot
studies
this
and
once
the
engineers
come
up
with
what
they
come
up
with
there,
it's
not
going
to
be
a
situation
where
modot
is
going
to
say
because
of
these
concerns,
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
have
the
project,
that's
just
not
going
to
happen.
Okay,
what's
going
to
happen,
is
they're
going
to
set
conditions
to
make
it
as
safe
as
they
believe
it
possibly
can
be?
K
R
R
R
Mr
myers,
we
change
our
plan
and
I
come
off
church
or
jackson
or
wherever
and
we're
back
in
front
of
you
with
a
new
plan
to
have
to
discuss
so
what
you
are
approving
is
we
approve
your
plan
with
your
entrance
under
94,
which
is
now
our
responsibility
to
get
permitted
with
modot
a
traffic
study
turn
lanes.
Whatever
else
we
have
to
do
to
do
that,
if
that's
not
the
case
and
we're
going
to
come
back
here
and
start
this
process
over
again
got
you
so.
A
R
That's
a
very
good
question:
yes,
if
we
have
to
if
we
have
to
widen
the
road,
normally
a
lane
widening
is
12
feet.
I
do
not
know
off
the
top
of
my
head,
whether
there's
enough
existing
right
away
and
hiding
highway
94
for
that.
It's
common
in
a
private
development
that,
if
you
do
have
to
widen,
you
will
widen
to
the
project
side,
because
that's
your
property!
You
can
dedicate
right
away
to
94
and
away
you
go
yes!
If,
for
whatever
reason
we
needed
to
to
widen,
it
would
be
on
us
to
obtain
that
privately.
H
L
G
We
can,
we
can
certainly
send
you
the
results.
That's
that's
no
problem,
and
we
can.
We
can
do
it
that
way
you,
I
guess
your
options
would
be.
You
could
condition
approval
upon
a
traffic
study
approved
by
modot.
That
would
be
one
option
you
could
could
table
consideration
until
the
traffic
study
is
done.
That
would
be
another
option.
G
Those
those
will
be
two
options
that
I
would
see,
but
certainly
you
can
get
a
copy
of
traffic
study
now
I
wanted
to
ask
if
I
could
please
just
for
clarification,
there's
something
called
a
traffic
analysis
versus
the
traffic
study,
and
I
don't
know
much
about
it.
But
do
I
understand
it
is?
The
traffic
study
is
more
involved
and
it's
more
rigid.
R
I
mean
this
will
be
a
full
traffic
studies
required
by
modot
right
and
to
not
get
into
the
details
of
how
it
all
happens.
The
very
first
thing
you
do
is
you
meet
with
modot
and,
and
you
discuss
this
and
then
they
will
tell
you
exactly
what
they
want
in
the
report.
So
there's
not
a
back
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
so
step.
One
is
meeting
with
them.
They're
already
aware
of
the
project.
They'll
tell
us
what
intersections
need
to
be
studied?
R
How
we're
going
to
study
what
time
of
the
day,
then
that
happens
they
do.
The
report
submit
to
modot
modot
has
an
internal
review,
whether
it
does
or
doesn't
meet
their
guidelines
and
away
you
go
it
is.
We
would
be
more
than
happy
to
share
and
it's
very
common,
to
share
a
traffic
study
that
that
staff
would
want
to
see
to
make
sure
that
whatever
lanes
we're
adding
on
94
are
required
by
mo
dot.
Sure
I
mean
that's,
not
something
that's
you
know
hidden
for
whatever
reason.
A
G
No,
and
the
reason
is
this-
is
a
concept
plan
for
the
conditional
use
permit
their
next
step
would
be,
should
they
get
approval
within
two
years.
After
that
approval,
they
would
have
to
submit
a
site
plan
to
county
staff
for
approval,
in
conformance
with
the
approved
concept
plan.
The
site
plan
is
a
lot
more
rigorous
than
this
concept
plan.
It's
very
specific.
It
has
elevations,
it
shows
you
know,
calculations
on
on
water
flows
and
et
cetera.
K
K
J
K
J
A
J
A
E
G
I'm
sorry
I'm
thinking
of
below
ground.
Okay,
runoff.
We
have
there's
a
couple
aspects:
one
is
just
the
volume
of
water
and
the
rate,
and
the
other
is
the
water
quality.
So
recently
we
adopted
water
quality
standards
in
addition
to
preventing
flooding
of
neighboring
properties.
We
also
require
that
storm
water
be
filtered
so
that
it
it
it
helps
with
the
water
quality.
So
those
standards
fall
under
a
permit
issued
by
the
state
of
missouri,
missouri
department
of
natural
resources,
and
it
this
project
will
meet
the
county's
stormwater
standards
or
it
won't
happen.
G
G
A
E
A
A
L
L
F
E
So
you
know
obviously,
fourth
of
july
I
think,
is
a
one-off,
but
you
know
in
the
summertime.
Obviously
it
doesn't
get
darker
until
9,
9,
30
and
then
and
the
other
times
of
the
year.
It's
dirk
dark
at
six
o'clock,
so
you
know
is,
can
we
say
a
time
frame
by
season?
Is
that
acceptable?
I'm
asking
staff?
G
G
K
K
A
B
G
A
I
At
the
same
time
I
mean
amplified
sound
is
pretty
broad,
I
mean
we
have
amplified
sound
going
on
right
now
in
our
microphones
and
it's
9
30.
So
if
they
had
any
sort
of
an
event
you
know
I
would
hate
to
limit
somebody's
wedding
and
tell
them
they
had
to
stop
by.
You
know:
7
p.m.
On
a
thursday
because
the
preacher
was
using
a
microphone.
I
G
K
K
A
A
Amplified
music.
Okay,
thank
you
good,
find
you,
okay,
then
we're
also
saying
a
condition
of
no
fireworks
other
than
the
fourth
of
july,
and
that
the
is
contingent
upon
the
traffic
study
with
modot
and
approval
of
the
plans
by
modot.
Correct,
yes,
okay,
so
we've
now
got
those
six
conditions,
this
the
county
head
and
we're
adding
those
three
additional
comments.
Do
I
have
anybody
want
to
discuss
this
further.
I
M
A
M
A
I
K
M
M
A
M
A
M
E
A
A
G
I'll
refrain
refrain
from
repeating
much
of
this,
because
it
involves
the
same
property
right
right.
Just
maybe
just
address
this
particular
part
right
under
the
agriculture
zoning
district
and
the
applicants
propose
to
keep
a
portion
of
the
property
under
agricultural
zoning
in
the
agricultural
zoning
district,
a
and
airfield
or
landing.
I'm
sorry,
let's
see
airport
or
landing
field
requires
a
conditional
use
permit,
so
the
range
of
that
could
be
anywhere
from
like
smart
field,
all
the
way
down
to
a
private
air
landing
strip.
G
G
I
G
Z
E
A
G
G
I
M
I
M
A
N
N
A
F
N
N
F
N
As
far
as
its
use
for
public
safety,
that
is
indeed
something
that
they
have
brought
up.
Some
of
the
members
here
have
mentioned
how,
in
previous
designs,
the
helipad
was
actually
located
closer
to
the
church
on
church
street,
just
south
of
that,
but
we
had
rethought
that
by
the
time
this
came
out
through
discussions
and
considerations
and
said
well
would
it
would
be
better
to
be
away
from
the
church
and
closer
to
the
more
active
area?
Being
you
know
the
highway
notwithstanding
being
far
enough
away?
N
You
know
for
a
faa
and
whatnot
and
being
right
across
the
street
from
the
fire
department
so
that
it
could
indeed
be
utilized
as
a
life
flight
kind
of
opportunity.
There's
been
some
talk
here
and
rightfully
so
about
safety
on
the
on
the
road,
and
this
is
something
that
that
the
hoffman's
thought
might
be
able
to
mitigate
or
or
kind
of
alleviate
a
little
bit
by
by
being
a
part
of
the
solution.
In
you
know
worst
case
scenarios
can.
E
N
I
M
A
AG
H
B
AG
Air
ambulance,
private
ambulance,
you
cannot
take
a
sick
person
to
the
hospital
in
an
air
in
a
regular
helicopter.
Let's
get
that
on
on
the
ground
right
now,
helicopters,
if
we
call
arch,
which
is
the
helicopter,
it
can
land
anywhere,
it
is
landed
across
my
house
in
a
bean
field
and
took
my
child
to
the
hospital.
AG
AG
We
have
volunteer
fire
department,
we
have
volunteer
ambulance
people,
we
don't
even
have
a
police.
We
have
the
sheriff
that
comes
around,
so
we
don't
have
any
other
infrastructure
to
support
all
of
this
wondrous
things
that
are
supposed
to
be
coming
down
the
pipes.
So
you
got
to
keep
that
in
mind
too.
AG
We
don't
have
police,
we
got
to
wait
for
the
county
sheriff.
Last
time
I
was
robbed.
I
beat
the
sheriff
to
my
house,
so
we
don't
have
the
infrastructure
to
support
what
he's
proposing
unless
you're
going
to
give
us
more
money,
but
like
the
helicopter,
that's
not
going
to
work
that
and
it's
going
to
be
disrupted
to
the
kids,
because
it's
right
by
the
school,
it's
also
by
94.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
traffic
problem.
A
Did
everybody
who's
spoken
to
fill
out
their
speaker
card?
Yes,
sir?
Okay,
thank
you.
Please
raise
your
right
hand.
Do
you
solemnly
swear
to
tell
the
truth
the
whole
truth,
nothing,
but
the
truth
under
the
pains
and
penalties
of
perjury?
Yes,
I
do
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
My.
AH
AH
AH
What
we
have
here
is
a
mega
wealthy
single
individual
who
had
an
epiphany,
and
he
decided
unilaterally
that
our
town
should
be
the
next
napa
valley,
and
people
should
come
here
from
all
over
the
country.
And
while
we
are
all
glad
me
and
all
of
my
neighbors
to
sustain
sustainable
development
for
my
fellow
townies
who
have
businesses
and
have
struggled
for
a
long
time,
but
what
is
the
cost
of
that?
Our
town
is
the
size
of
a
small
subdivision,
a
helicopter
pad
tours
and
balloon
rides.
We
already
have
trolley.
Gator
rides
carriage
rides
soon.
AH
Boat
rides
this
perfect
representation.
This
is
a
perfect
representation
of
what
results
when
a
single
individual
with
this
amount
of
wealth
and
power
exploits
the
opportunity,
which
is
what
davis
said
our
lives
and
homes
are
the
raw
resource
being
utilized
to
increase
the
wealth
of
a
few
at
the
expense
of
many
in
the
subjective
name
of
improvement.
AH
Using
medevac
to
justify
this
economic
development
is
transparent
to
the
vast
majority
of
these
people,
who
have
seen
the
medevac,
as
this
young
woman
pointed
out
land
as
close
as
they
can
to
an
accident
when
lives
are
at
stake.
A
helicopter
at
takeoff
and
below
500
feet
creates
87
decibels
of
noise
at
a
thousand
feet.
It's
still
78
decibels,
a
firing
hot
air
balloon
is
88
decibels.
This
is
equivalent
to
a
dc-9
jetliner
at
one
nautical
mile
above
the
earth,
or
a
freight
train
at
a
mere
eight
meters
away.
AH
Okay,
it's
hard
to
imagine
that
anyone
would
support
this
idea
if
it
were
happening
to
them.
Our
little
town
is
mostly
residential,
with
b
and
b's
intermingled
with
houses.
There's
a
deep
cultural
fabric.
Here,
that's
been
organically
developed
with
many
of
these
residents
who
are
three
and
four
generations
deep.
Okay,
the
term
increase
and
decreased
value
is
used
a
lot,
but
that
value
is
a
monetary
consideration
and
there's
more
to
look
at
here.
AH
For
this
reason,
I
feel
confident
that
zoning
and
planning
will
make
a
recommendation
against
this,
because
any
other
outcome
demonstrates
that
the
direct
will
of
the
people
is
being
circumvented
for
some
capital
gain
here,
not
every
place,
not
everyone
places
capital
gain
at
the
top
of
the
list,
character,
qualities,
like
trust,
truth,
community
respect,
they
pay
less
money,
but
you
know
that
is
who
we
are
as
augusta.
It's
a
very
tight-knit
community.
Now
I'm
not
windbegging
here
many
of
my
fellow
veterans.
AH
You
know,
I'm
a
I'm
a
I'm,
a
navy
veteran.
I
spent
six
years
in
the
united
states
navy
I've
lived
in
augusta
for
10
years.
I
was
born
and
raised
in
saint
charles
county.
We
decided
to
move
back
here
10
years
ago
because
of
what
and
who
augusta
is
many
of
my
fellow
veterans.
Some
suffering
ptsd
moved
here
to
get
away
from
helicopters
and
the
likes
and
the
noise-
and
I
don't
say
this-
to
exploit
those
people.
I
say
this
to
proudly
represent
those
people.
Okay,
thank
you.
AH
AH
Mr
hoffman
has
quoted
the
bible
saying
you
know
that
he
believes
that
to
whom
much
has
been
given
much
is
expected
and
I
would
say
the
new
covenant
of
doing
unto
your
neighbor
as
they
would
do
unto
you
is
just
as
important
with
compassion
and
love.
We,
the
people
of
augusta,
respectfully
request
that
the
county
and
mr
hoffman
understand
we
are
thankful
of
these
current
improvements,
hopeful
for
the
future
possibilities,
but
we
regard
helicopters
and
balloons
as
simply
over
the
line.
Please
hear
the
voice
of
the
people.
Thank.
A
A
V
A
V
So
I
am
a
long-term
member
of
the
congregation
at
mid-america
buddhist
association.
My
family's
been
going
there
for
15
years.
It
is
our
buddhist
church.
My
daughter
has
grown
up
going
there.
I
am
also
a
lay
teacher
at
maba
in
say,
catholic
terms.
It
would
be
like
a
lay
minister,
so
I
give
sermons
I
give
talks.
I
lead
retreats.
V
V
V
We're
opposed
to
it
because
of
the
noise.
It
would
create
we're
already
seeing
increased
noise
from
wineries
that
they're
expanding
in
the
area,
including
one
that
we
can
see
from
our
facility
and
having
a
helicopter
going
right
across
the
road,
especially
if
it's
flying
tours
or
even
if
it's
flying
family
members
in
and
out.
I
don't
know
how
often
they're
going
to
come.
Are
they
going
to
come
on
weekends?
Are
they
going
to
fly
in
50
friends?
V
Are
they
going
to
fly
in
100
friends
for
a
big
party
once
we
don't
know
how
many
it's
going
to
be,
but
the
noise
of,
even
just
a
few
of
those,
would
be
extremely
detrimental
to
our
congregation
and
to
the
people
who
are
not
members
of
our
congregation
who
come
to
visit
us
to
learn
to
meditate
to
learn
mindfulness.
We
have
people
come
who
have
been
asked
to
come
visit
us
for
medical
and
health
reasons
for
mental
health
reasons.
V
We
have
people
who
come
because
their
doctor
sent
them
to
us
to
learn
this
to
help
lower
their
blood
pressure
to
reduce
their
stress
from
their
job.
We
have
doctors,
come,
we
have
nurses,
come,
we
have
therapists,
come
we
have
policemen.
Come
we
have
social
workers.
Come
we
have
soldiers
come.
We
would
not
be
able
to
carry
out
peaceful
teaching
practices
if
there
are
helicopters
flying
around.
F
V
When
I
was
doing
that,
I
thought
some
of
our
members
also
live
in
the
augusta
area,
so
I
should
make
one
for
the
augusta
area
specifically
and
the
petition
that
was
just
mentioned.
I
put
it
up
this
weekend
and
436
people
had
signed
this
by
the
time
I
printed
it
out
before
I
came
over
here
this
afternoon.
F
F
A
V
A
A
V
A
I
H
H
A
Z
Q
Q
It
says
from
paul
and
bernice
kemner.
First
of
all,
their
little
envelope
says
please
no
helicopter,
okay,
that
was
from
them.
It
says
here,
they've
been
augusta
residents
for
the
past
72
years
with
paul
a
lifelong
resident.
94
years,
our
home
is
located
on
jackson
street,
with
the
back
property
line
being
adjacent
to
the
west
property
line
of
the
property
in
question.
We
would
be
directly
under
the
flight
path
of
any
helicopter
landing
or
taking
off
from
the
west.
The
noise
created
would
be
a
distraction
for
school
children
on
the
side
of
the
property.
Q
Q
I'm
going
to
read
a
couple
things
actually
here
on
on
helicopters.
First
of
all,
helicopter
noise.
Excessive
noise
from
helicopters
is
a
growing
national
issue.
Police
departments,
news
stations,
tourism
companies,
all
utilize,
low-flying,
roaring
helicopters
to
the
great
detriment
of
citizens
living
below.
Unfortunately,
the
faa
has
taken
no
meaningful
action
against
helicopter
noise.
The
faa's
failure
to
address
the
issue
of
helicopter
noise
is
an
outrage.
Q
This
is
talking
about.
People
of
los
angeles
need
relief.
There's
absolutely
no
reason
to
believe
that
voluntary
efforts
are
going
to
reduce
noise
levels.
No
one
should
be
subjected
to
the
constant
noise
from
low-flying
helicopters.
This
noise
is
extremely
irritating
and
disruptive.
The
ffa
and
other
federal
agencies
should
be
protecting
the
public
interests,
not
corporate
interests
and
they're.
Not
helicopter
noise
is
also
a
major
issue
on
the
south
side
of
chicago,
okay,
we're
not
chicago
but
you're.
Getting
the
point.
Q
Q
Q
Q
I
have
to
put
up
with
helicopters
and
hot
air
balloons,
and
these
other
farmers
in
the
area
have
you
ever
been
around
a
bunch
of
cattle
or
horses
when
these
are
flying
over
well,
I
have,
and
I
about
got
stampeded,
because
these
animals
do
not
like
this
of
hot
air
balloons,
and
you
can
see
the
hot
air
balloons
in
the
other
picture.
So
when
you
that
wasn't
on
his
cup,
but
it
is
on
his
talks
that
he's
given
and
his
edc
speech.
He
specifically
said
tourism
tours
not
not
just
private,
okay,.
A
AA
Right
here,
christina
kolchiski
1017
north
drive,
morrison
woods
missouri,
so
I'm
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
awkward
to
follow
behind
all
of
these
most
eloquent
speeches.
I
just
have
one
question
for
the
council:
why
in
the
world,
would
you
vote
yes
on
this
with
so
much
vocal
opposition?
It's
for
the
benefit
of
one
person
and
his
quote:
unquote:
guest
and
by
the
way,
we've
all
been
to
hotels
and
we've
all
been
to
disney
world.
We
know
that
a
guest
is
a
paying
person
at
their
hotel.
So
again,
why
would
you
vote
for
this
I'll?
A
X
AI
It's
a
couple
miles
away
kind
of
in
the
hills,
but
it's
actually
in
between
the
emmaus
home
and
where
you
know
augusta
is
so
it
could
be
a
very
good
flight
path
on
the
way
there.
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
is
aware
of
this,
but
the
washington
airport
is
less
than
10
miles
from
there
and
that's
pretty
sufficient.
You
know
sufficient
place
to
land
a
helicopter.
AI
If
you
were
to
ask
me
and
also
it's
a
pretty
good
view,
if
you
want
to
drive
down
the
back
roads
too,
so
that
could
give
their
guests,
you
know
pretty
good
view
on
their
way.
To
you
know
the
establishment,
also
that
might
give
the
county
a
little
bit
of
notion
to
pave
the
road
down
there.
You
know
it's,
I
mean
it's
a
disaster,
so
that
might
help
all
the
county.
People
too,
you
know,
I
mean
it
might
make
the
people
around
happy.
AI
You
know
as
well
and
they're
traveling
through
make
it
a
little
easier
to
get
to
augusta.
You
know
kind
of
comes
in
the
back
way,
a
little
bit,
not
off
94.
You
know
with
traffic
and
everything,
so
I
think
personal
gain
helicopter
pad
probably
won't
make
too
many
people
happy,
and
I
think
it's
a
little
much
okay.
Thank
you.
Yep.
A
AJ
F
AJ
Highway
94,
just
in
general,
is
moving
equipment
because,
like
this
someone
commented
earlier,
we
do
have
to
move
it
all
over
the
countryside
and
from
the
warren
county
line
on
94
past
klondike
almost
to
matson.
Highway
94
is
a
double
yellow
line
and
it
has
maybe
in
most
places
a
12
to
15
inch
side
gravel
on
the
side.
Shoulder.
Thank
you,
and
so
it's
not
easy
to
move
equipment.
We
really
can't
hardly
do
it
without
you've
got
to
have
flag
people
on
both
sides.
T
AJ
B
AJ
AJ
AJ
B
F
H
AJ
So
we
feel
like
it's
really
important,
to
realize
all
the
things
that
this
is
going
to
have
an
impact
on,
and
I
know
you're
hearing
it
and
you're
hearing
it
again,
but
it's
that
important
we
have
livestock
when
you're
trying
to
work
livestock,
the
the
helicopters
coming
over
constantly
low
it's
it's
just
people
come
to
augusta
because
they
want
the
peace
and
the
serenity
that
came
with
it.
I
don't
understand
how
someone
can
say
they
came
to
augusta
and
they
liked
it,
and
then
they
want
to
change
everything
about
it.
B
AJ
A
F
A
A
N
I
I
guess
I
can
address
them
them
all
by
by
saying
that
I
I
understand
where
they're
coming
from,
and
I
do
believe
that
the
state
statements
that
have
been
made
by
the
public
here
are
not
that
it
would
be
difficult
to
to
argue
against.
Helicopters.
Do
have
certain
noise
levels,
okay
and
they're.
You
know,
and
that's
essentially
what
they
spoke
to
was
just
the
noise
level.
N
Yeah,
the
well
the
the
original
sketch
that
was
done.
Actually,
if
we,
I
think
it
might
be
on
this
one
here
that
was
then
translated
yeah
here
we
are
the
original
sketch
that
was
done
was
then
translated
into
the
document
that
you
all
received
here,
the
hot
air
balloon
which,
by
the
way
would
be
tethered
it.
Would
it
wouldn't
be
flying
around
and
firing
over
livestock
or
anything
of
that
nature.
It
would
be
tethered
at
that
location.
N
N
Well,
a
lot
of
those
details
have
yet
to
be
worked
out.
It's
it's.
It's
a
an
interesting
idea
that
was
presented
because
it
was
something
that
was
thought
to
be
not
thrown
out
right
away.
We
wanted
to
keep
it.
We
wanted
to
pursue
it
and
and
and
have
an
opportunity
for
people
to
speaking
of
looking
out
and
having
sights
and
views
and
things
of
that
nature.
N
G
What
we're
lacking
is
a
distinct
narrative
description
describing
all
the
the
proposed
use
and
detail.
What
we
do
not
have
is
a
description
saying
that
it's
for
public
tours
or
not
for
public
tours
the
hours
of
operation
that
is
or
parking
or
not
parking.
Is
there
a
hot
air
balloon
or
are
not
involved.
G
E
G
There's
there's
three
things
you
can
do.
You
could
recommend
for
approval
as
presented,
recommend
approval
with
conditions
or
recommend
for
denial.
So
if
you
wanted
to
address
whether
or
not
certain
aspects
would
or
would
not
be
allowed,
you
could
do
that
through
proposed
conditions,
or
you
could
just
say
that
we
need
more
more
time,
give
the
the
applicant
a
chance
to
address
details
and
come
back
to
you
and
and
defer
consideration
until
the
next
month,
or
you
can
say
that
the
proposal
is
too
indistinct
or
it's.
G
E
N
Well,
I
wouldn't
go
so
far
as
to
say
that
other
options
aren't
an
option.
What
I
would
say
is
that
this
is
the
option
that
the
applicant
or
the
the
the
owner
had
requested
that
we
put
forth
so
it
you
know.
I
guess
you
could
say
that
the
airport
is
an
option.
Limousines
are
an
option
or
the
helipad
is
an
option,
and
at
this
juncture
that's
the
option
that
he
was
selecting
for
the
reasons
that
we
gave
previously.
I
A
F
K
I'd
like
to
address
really
four
things
number
one.
You
know
I
mentioned
it's
been
about
two
and
a
half
hours
ago
that
when
we
on
the
county
council
considered
the
agricultural
tourism
district
that
we
never
really
imagined
something
like
this.
Well,
I
guarantee
you,
we
never
imagined
helicopters.
Okay,
that's
that's!
I'm
100
sure
that,
second
of
all,
obviously
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
different
plans,
a
lot
of
different
ideas.
You
know
some
of
them.
You
agree
with
some
of
them.
You
don't.
My
own
personal
opinion
is.
This
is
an
extremely
dumb
idea.
Agreement.
K
E
A
F
L
M
K
B
B
B
H
B
A
A
A
A
The
property
owner
is
r,
stephen
and
catherine
m
barnett
and
donald
c
and
marianne
mollison.
The
applicant
is
lombardo
homes
of
st
louis
llc.
The
current
zoning
is
a
agricultural
district.
The
requested
zoning
is
r3b
multifamily
district
on
essentially
29.56
acres
and
r1e
single-family
residents
on
47.11
acres,
the
2030
master
plan
recommends
low
density,
residential
use,
the
rezoning
area
is
approximately
76.67
acres
and
the
location
is
on
the
south
side
of
highway
n,
approximately
900
feet
east
of
gallup
lane
near
the
cities
of
wentzville
o'fallon
and
lake
st
louis.
C
C
C
So,
as
mentioned
the
wrong
one,
sorry,
the
the
the
plat
is
not
presented
to
you
tonight.
It
is
still
in
concept
form
and
it's
still
undergoing
review.
The
area
that
they're
asking
for
rezoning
includes
two
separate
areas.
The
first
part
is
the
r3b,
which
is
the
higher
density
residential
and
then
also
the
r1e,
that's
47.11
acres
and
the
r3b
is
acres
directly,
as
I
mentioned
directly
to
the
east,
in
the
city
of
old
fallon
or
going
through
the
city
of
o'fallon.
Right
now
is
another
development.
C
C
C
That,
as
you
develop
residentially
in
these
areas,
there
is
going
to
be
a
need
for
some
commercial
and
other
type
of
development
and
some
high
density
development.
We
we
do
have
a
need
for
some
affordable
housing
in
this
area.
So
with
that
staff
has
reviewed
the
application
and
they
are
recon.
We
are
recommending
that
you
recommend
approval
to
the
county
council
for
this
rezoning.
J
A
G
You
could
vote
either
way
by
the
way
it's
recommended.
You
could
take
one
vote
or
if,
for
some
reason,
you
thought
you
needed
to
break
up
the
votes,
you
could
do
that
in
two
different
votes,
but
the
if
you
voted
one
yes
on
on
one
of
them
you'd
be
left
with
a
remainder
area
that
would
have
to
be
well.
I
guess
that
remainder
area
could
remain
under
the
current
zoning,
but.
A
A
S
A
S
S
So
in
the
front
you
have
vertical
apartments
which
you'll
have
clubhouse
pool.
Other
amenities
will
be
provided
as
we
get
to
the
preliminary
plan,
we'll
be
able
to
identify
all
the
that.
The
second
set
of
is
a
single
family
for
rent.
It's
a
it's
targeted
for
an
empty
nester
or
a
business
professional
people
that
are
different
stages
of
their
life
that
don't
want
to
own
they're,
they're
busy
they're
on
the
go.
S
They
have
limited
traffic.
They
have
a
different
traffic
pattern
than
your
normal
residential
buyers
so
and
they
average
about
1.7
people
per
unit
in
those
and
about
one
1.5
cars
per
unit
as
well.
Those
they
will
have
an
attached
two-car
garage
in
the
in
the
villa
product
as
well,
in
each
unit
and
they're
all
two-bedroom
high-end.
AC
S
Okay,
so
there's
a
rendering
of
the
departments
that
are
right
there
on
highway
in
the
other
thing
with
the
the
villas
also,
which
is
unique
to
them,
is
that
they
are
all
ada
compliant,
so
I'll
be
able
to
speak
to
that
more
as
we
bring
the
preliminary
plan,
but
it's
a
very
unique
development.
In
that
sense,.
S
Z
I
S
So
we're
meeting
the
the
county
code
for
parking
on
for
the
apartments,
so
the
parking
will
go
all
the
way
around
the
apartment
complex
with
parking
spots.
I
don't
have
the
exact
number,
but
we
are
meeting
that
the
number
per
the
code
and
then
the
garden
villas
will
have
the
two
car
garage
plus
two
more
parking
spots
within
the
driveway.
So
totally
you
can
support.
Four
cars
are.
S
They
will
be
considered
luxury
apartments,
along
with
the
villas
they're
high-end
high
rent.
For
that
so
you'll
be
able
to
it's
a
progression
so
different
stages
of
your
life.
You
can
rent
from
a
vertical
apartment
or
you
can
you
have
horizontal,
which
is
the
ranch
style
or
you
have
your
single
family
that
you
can
rent.
So
you
could
have
multiple
generations
living
in
the
same
area.
E
S
S
A
F
H
A
AE
AE
A
AE
My
partner
and
I
came
before
the
same
council
asking
for
approval
of
the
all-american
athlete
children's
center,
which
is
now
has
been
constructed.
We've
been
going
for
the
last
three
years
now
the
council
voted
in
favor
and
gave
its
unanimous
approval
for
the
project
for
the
kids
in
our
program
to
have
a
close,
safe
place
to
come.
AE
Like
those
senators
in
my
neighborhood,
the
exact
location
of
the
children's
city
center
now
sits
on
land
that
was
once
slave
land
or
was
given
to
a
slave
that
moved
up
from
a
virginia
the
center,
the
location
where
the
center
is
now
there
was
a
home
or
a
building
that
all
the
kids
in
the
neighborhood
used
to
all
come
congregate
to.
So
we
just
thought
it
was
pretty
ironic
that
the
facility
was
built
on
on
set
said
property.
AE
AE
AE
The
property
and
development
will
be
connecting
the
future
to
the
past
and
keep
the
community
spirit
that
surrounds
the
children's
center
and
keeping
it
alive.
London
homes
has
helped
with
the
tradition
of
the
kids
in
the
neighborhood
having
a
place
a
safe
place
to
go
meet
and
become
better
citizens.
AE
A
K
K
A
A
It's
it's
a
little
bit,
it's
more
like
the
one
to
four
acre
development,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
it's
been
consistent,
but
then
you
know
if
we
do
have
some
other
stuff
developing
on
the
other,
this
side
we
haven't
seen
it
yet,
but
I
I
am
concerned
about
the
density
of
of
this
r3
area.
It's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
units,
a
lot
of
traffic
coming
in
and
out
of
end
there.
It
seems
to
me
if
it
was
all
r1e
at
the
same
density.
A
J
Just
know
some
of
the
the
development
as
far
as
plans
along
that
highway
and
corridor
and
o'fallon
they've
got
some
commercial
zoning
with
frontage
along
highway,
and
so
it's
they're
planning
for
it
to
become
more
dense
as
well,
is
what
this
future
is.
What
staff
recommend
it
to
as
far
as
just
looking
at
the
plan
and
maybe
needing
to
adjust
it
to
be
more
high
density
because
of
the
growth
of
highway?
In
that's
just
my
thoughts
on
it.
Okay,.
M
I
A
I
J
A
Sir
hollander,
yes
miss
jackson,
yes,
and
I
vote
yes.
Also.
Okay,
matt
motion
passes
the
next
one
is
a
preliminary
plat
for
reymus
subdivision,
2110
hepperman
road,
its
application,
p,
r
e
21-14,
the
owner
property
owner
developer,
is
willing
perez
ramez,
romes
and
maria
ramez.
It's
engineering
surveyor
is
landmark
serving
company.
C
C
Z
A
A
AD
A
F
F
F
A
Very
good:
does
anyone
have
any
questions
to
dana
okay?
If
there's
any
questions
we'll
bring
you
back
up.
Thank
you.
Is
there
any
questions
or
comments
from
the
public
here,
seeing
none
we'll
bring
it
back
to
the
council
for
our
committee
here
to
discuss
any
any
thoughts
on
this
particular
development
here.
O
AF
A
L
M
F
A
M
A
A
Yes,
mr
hollander,
yes
and
I
vote
yes
motion
passes.
The
next
application
is
preliminary
platform,
cox,
hill
estates,
1209
cox,
hill,
road
application
number
pr,
e,
21-16
property
owner
developer
is
jason
r
for
rj
our
construction
engineering,
surveyor,
st
charles
engineering
survey
company,
it's
planet
property
zoning
is
r1e
single
family
residential
district
proposed
lots
is
two.
The
parcel
size
is
one
acre
and
it's
located
on
the
west
side
of
cox,
hill
road,
approximately
250
feet,
southeast
of
lexicon
drive
it's
in
county
council
district,
seven
staff.
C
C
A
A
A
A
AC
Just
simply
just
subdividing
the
lot,
it
was
an
old
farmhouse
that
was
sitting
on
basically
a
half
an
acre.
It's
like
0.6
and
there's
already
curb
cuts
to
the
other
lot.
When
I
purchased
property,
a
guy
came
to
me
saying
that
he
needed
out
of
it.
I
flipped
properties,
so
I
got
it
and
decided
to
subdivide
the
lot.
A
A
A
J
I
M
A
I
vote
yes.
Thank
you
motion
passes.
The
next
item
is
a
preliminary
plan
for
boschert
acres,
5535
blaze
station
road
application
number
pr
e
21-17,
the
property
owner
developer
is
paul,
f
and
jody
l.
Bach's
engineering
company
is
the
engineer
it
property
zoning
is
r1e.
Single-Family
residential
district
proposed
one
lots:
it's
3.13
acres,
it's
the
corner
of
playstation
road
and
orchard
farm
road.
It's
in
county
district,
six
staff.
C
C
K
A
Z
F
A
S
A
A
E
J
L
M
A
M
A
K
A
G
We
actually
originally
were
going
to
have
it
on
this
month's
agenda,
but
when
we
saw
that
the
chair
was
going
to
be
gone
and
also
a
couple
members,
we
thought
it
best
to
move
the
next
month,
so
it'll
be
on
for
next
month.
For
your
consideration
and
you
you
don't
have
to
approve
those
or
you
could
can't
approve
those
or
you
can
improve
them
with
with
amendments
it's
up
to
you.
G
G
That's
one
thing!
Second,
you
may
know
that
our
master
plan
tries
to
incorporate
the
comprehensive
plans
and
master
plans
of
the
municipalities
just
outside
of
their
jurisdiction
in
their
growth
areas.
We
try
to
reflect
those
so
there's
not
a
conflict
so
periodically
we'll
receive
communications
from
municipalities.
Saying
we've
updated
our
master
plan.
Here's
our
most
recent
one.
Can
you
please
work
to
reflect
this
in
your
next
master
plan.
G
G
I
did
want
to
let
you
know.
We
received
a
resolution
passed
by
the
city
of
saint
charles,
amending
their
master
plan
that,
in
the
growth
area,
north
of
the
city,
that
they're
looking
at
future
residential
development
for
one
acre
and
three
acre
residential
lots,
and
they
have
certain
development
standards
that
they're
looking
for.
X
G
G
A
G
Allowed
to
it
is,
there
is
something
procedurally
that
we
do.
We
we,
we
review
under
state
law
that
meets
certain
requirements,
and
one
of
them
is
that
any
annex
property
must
have
15
percent
contiguous,
contiguous
attachment
to
the
existing
county
city,
boundaries,
okay
and
so
no
annexation
in
the
county
is,
is
I
don't
know
what
the
right
word
is
is
authorized
or
approved
until
the
county,
registrar,
approves
it
and
the
county
registrar
won't
approve
it
until
our
internal
staff
review
finds
that
it
meets
the
state
code.
A
G
G
Though
that
that
plan
of
theirs
is
really
their
own
plan,
so
when
they
annex
that's
what
they're
looking
for
in
terms
of
future
development
in
the
city,
but
I
wanted
to
mention
that,
because
their
those
intentions
extended
out,
extend
out
into
the
unincorporated
county
they're
saying
as
we
grow,
this
is
how
we
want
to
grow.
They'd.
G
They
want
to
let
us
know
that
those
are
their
intended.
This
is
their
intended
growth
pattern
for
north
of
the
city
of
saint
charles
yeah.
The
last
thing
I
would
mention
has
to
do
with
highway
end
real
quickly.
I
did
want
to
let
you
know
that
city
of
wolf
fallon,
st
charles
county
community
development
department,
st
charles
county
highway
department
and
and
roads
and
traffic,
the
road
board
and
modot
we're
all
collaborating
on
what
the
connection
should
be.
The
street
connections
how
integrated
we
want
the
streets
to
be
between
these
different
developments.
G
What
the
connection
points
are
for
highway
in
whether
someone
has
full
access
to
highway
in
or
just
partial
access,
for
instance,
maybe
they
can't
turn
left?
Maybe
they
only
can
turn
right
things
like
that,
so
we
are
working
cross
jurisdictionally
on
that
very
question,
and
we
will
share
those
thoughts
with
you
when
the
plaque
comes
before
you.
Presumably,
at
your
september
meeting.