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August 20, 2014 - St Charles County, Missouri Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
A
C
Applications
heard
during
tonight's
meeting
will
be
voted
on
by
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
during
the
meeting
tonight.
The
planning
and
zoning
commission's
recommendation
on
these
applications
will
then
be
submitted
to
the
saint
charles
county
council
for
their
final
decision
on
the
items
the
individual
items
or
bills
will
be
introduced
at
the
monday
september,
8th
2014
county
council
meeting,
I
see
we
have
a
a
quorum.
Will
someone
move
that
we
open
the
meeting?
C
We
will
then
ask
staff
for
their
analysis
and
opinion.
We
will
then
ask
any
questions
we
have
of
staff.
Then,
if
the
applicant
is
in
the
room-
and
they
wish
to
do
so-
they
may
come
forward
and
explain
kind
of
what's
going
on
with
the
application
and
answer
any
questions
that
the
commission
may
have
after
the
after
the
applicant,
the
we
will
not.
C
We
will
then
open
it
up
to
the
public
where
anybody
in
the
room
that
wishes
to
speak
on
the
application
may
do
so
after
the
after
the
public
hearing.
We
will
then
bring
it
back
before
the
commission,
oh
after
the
public.
We
will
then
allow
the
the
applicant
to
come
forward,
maybe
and
address
any
issues
brought
forward
during
the
public
portion
of
it.
Then
we
will
bring
it
back
before
the
commission.
C
So
the
the
first
application
on
tonight's
agenda
is
application.
23582,
an
application
for
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
lawn
care
service
at
98,
placemeier
drive.
The
property
is
owned:
r1b
single
family,
residential
district,
r1e,
single
family,
residential
district
and
c2
general
commercial
district
with
floodway
overlay
zoning.
The
subject
property
consists
of
13.89
acres
and
is
located
within
council
district
4.
staff.
E
The
match
plan
calls
for
the
area
to
be
low
density,
residential
with
one
to
four
units
per
acre.
I'm
a
little
history
on
this
property.
It
was
it's
been
zoned
residential
since
the
adoption
of
zoning
that
there
is
a
seat
to
a
one,
acre
piece
that
is
c2
in
the
property
or
yeah.
I
guess
part
of
the
property
that
was
zoned
in
1972.
E
E
In
two
in
like
between
1998
and
2000,
they
got
access
to
pinehurst
club
court,
which
is
to
the
south
on
the
subdivision.
Pinehurst
in
the
city
will
fallon
I'm
on
to
the
recommendation.
The
property
owner
seeks
to
get
a
lawn
care
business
approved
there.
There.
The
lawn
care
business
came
to
our
attention
through
a
complaint.
E
The
original
complaint
was
large,
dumpsters
trailers
and
junk
being
located
behind
the
homes
in
o'fallon,
and
they
so
they
propose
to
use
this
3700
square
foot
building
for
the
lawn
care
business,
the
commercial
business
that
is
on
the
property
in
the
c1
area.
That
would
remain
there
there's.
There
are
no
zoning
issues
with
that
parcel
at
this
or
that
part
of
the
parcel
at
this
time.
E
E
But
there
was
a
bridge
there
and
the
bridge-
I
don't
know
if
it
collapsed
or
they
took
it
out
or
what.
But
the
bridge
appears
on
the
2000
aerial
photos,
but
it
is
not
on
the
2004
aero
photos
and
I
checked
with
the
highway
department
and
the
highway
department
said
that
they
had
never
maintained
that
bridge.
It
wasn't
part
of
their
stuff.
So
it
was
a
private
bridge
that
served
that
property,
but
the
the
bridge
and
the
entrance
to
pinehurst
were
were
there
at
the
same
time.
D
D
E
E
F
E
E
H
E
Well,
in
the
in
the
c2
portion
of
the
property,
there
is
like
a
contractor
deck
fence
contractor
in
this
in
the
area.
That's
on
c2,
on
on
the
map.
Oh
here,
let
me
switch
to
the
airflow.
Well,
let's
not
the
this
is
where
the
contractor's
office
is
the
access
to
pinehurst
is
about
here
and
then
the
building
where
the
lawn
care
is
is
located
in
this
area.
D
E
Well,
they
they
have
applied
for
the
line
care
business.
If,
if
they
would
get
approved
for
the
lawn
care
business,
they
cannot
store
any
materials
and
they
cannot
do
landscaping
and
all
of
the
all
of
their
equipment
and
everything
for
the
lawn
care
business
has
to
be
stored
within
a
building.
There
can
be
nothing
stored
outside
the
that's
the
way
the
ordinance
is
set
up
and
and
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
and
county
council
cannot
waive
that
requirement
in
the
ordinance.
G
C
All
right,
if
the
and
then
I'll
take
this
time
to
remind
anybody
that
does
does
speak
to
any
any
matter
this
evening.
Please
do
not
forget
to
fill
out
a
speaker
card
just
so.
We
know
who
who
you
are
in
your
notes
and
then
place
it
in
this.
This
box
up
here
in
the
table,
is
the
applicant
in
the
room.
C
J
H
A
Well,
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
to
say.
I
just
I've
acquired
the
property
a
year
ago
from
my
ex-husband,
he
was
supposed
to
get
it
and
eventually
I
ended
up
with.
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
in
the
barn
or
in
the
building
that
we're
talking
about,
there
has
been
another
landscaping
company
that
my
husband
had
there
since
1999.
A
A
J
Technically
speaking,
we're
just
you
know
we're
a
lawn
care
service.
Do
we
do
landscaping,
yeah
we
do,
and
whenever
we
were
contacted
by
the
city.
The
gentleman
I
talked
to,
I
can't
remember
his
name.
He
had
informed
us
that
we
can't
have
pilots
outside
and
snow
plows,
so
we
moved
all
that
stuff.
We
got
rid
of
a
lot
of
things
and
then
today
we
made
sure
everything
was
up
to
par
everything
that
we
have.
We
do
store
inside.
We
might
keep
one
or
two
trailers
outside,
but
nothing
is
visible.
J
I
would
say
almost
300
feet
off
of
pinehurst
club
court
from
the
street.
You
can't
even
see
anything
at
all.
I
know
that
doesn't
matter
to
you
guys,
but
as
far
as
being
an
eyesore,
you
know
that's
not
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
try
to
keep
it
as
clean
as
we
possibly
can
so
yeah
ever
since
he
told
us
that
you
know
we
couldn't
have
those
certain
things
there.
You
know
we
haven't
done
it.
We've
started
taking
things
back
to
the
dump
and
things
like
that.
So
how.
D
J
J
Landscape
since
yesterday,
oh
yeah,
yeah
yesterday
evening-
and
today
we
worked
on
it-
we
got
everything
cleaned
up
like
I
said
the
snow
plows
that
were
out
they're
gone,
the
only
thing:
that's
there
is
the
mulch
bins
that
you
guys
speak
of
and
there's
a
little
bit
of
mulch
in
one
and
nothing
in
the
other
one.
So.
H
C
K
K
While
I
admire
the
fact
that
the
gentleman
just
spoke
of
cleaning
everything
up
with
respect
to
making
sure
it's
not
an
eyesore
I'd
like
to
remind
him
and
this
board
that
he
is
operating,
that
business
under
violation,
so
regardless
of
whether
it's
an
iso
or
not,
it
is
under
violation.
So
I
would
remind
everyone
of
that.
K
K
K
To
belittle
the
people
in
the
pinehurst
section,
because
I'm
sure
they
don't
want
to
see
semi
trucks
going
through
their
subdivisions
and
between
their
homes
either,
but
if
they
are,
if
there
is
going
to
be
any
repairs
to
that
bridge-
and
I
speak
for
my
community
as
well,
we
would
like
to
be
made
aware
of
that
by
notice,
so
we
can
also
come
up
here
again
and
and
have
that
discussion
at
a
later
time.
I
know
that's
not
on
the
plate
for
this
evening,
but
that's
our
focus
for
this
evening.
So
thank
you
any.
K
When
the
plumbing
business
was
there,
we
did
have
trucks
going
there,
knowing
the
family
members
and
knowing
those
people
and-
and
that
was
well
over
10
years
ago.
That
was
still
an
issue.
The
the
road
would
get
torn
up.
It's
it's
maintained
by
saint
charles
county,
there's
no
rails,
there
are
ditches
and
that
road
gets
torn
up,
so
heavy
heavy
equipment
will
tear
that
road
up
and
that's
what
happened
to
the
bridge?
C
F
F
F
F
H
F
That's
one
bus,
stop
you
go
to
the
other
end.
That
is
the
bus.
Another
bus
stop
where
my
son
gets
on.
Who
is
five
years
old
in
the
mornings.
We
do
have
not
only
the
work
vehicles,
we
have
delivery
trucks
of
various
sizes
and
we
have
some
pictures.
I
was
able
to
take
some
time
off
work
and
get
some
pictures
of
it
coming
up
and
down
that
street
during
the
time
that
kids
are
walking
to
the
school
bus
stop.
F
Okay,
my
other
concern
is
just
during
normal
hours
when
the
kids
are
home
from
school
and
they
go
from
neighbor
to
neighbor
to
play
etcetera.
They
are
crossing
the
street,
so
we
try
to
teach
them
to
look
both
ways.
They
are
crossing
the
street
in
a
residential
neighborhood
when
we
are
having
work,
vehicles
and
delivery
trucks
coming
through
there
on
a
downgrade
road.
F
I
can
tell
you
the
day
I
took
the
pictures
that
are
available
if
you'd
like
to
see
them.
I
sat
home
one
of
the
actual
work
trucks
in
one
delivery
truck
was
over
the
speed
limit.
Of
course,
I
don't
have
a
radar
gun.
I
can't
say
exactly
what
that
speed
was,
but
I
can
guarantee
you
coming
down
that
street.
They
were
over.
The
speed
limit
near
two
bus
stops.
F
F
Now
the
gentleman
from
the
other
subdivision
no
offense,
but
I
have
a
major
concern
that
our
road,
which
is
a
residential
road,
has
got
traffic
coming
up
and
down,
and
I
have
also
again
pictures
to
prove
the
damage
that
is
being
done
to
that
road
from
that
traffic,
not
only
in
front
of
my
house
but
from
the
entrance
again,
I'm
about
one
third
third
house
down
there
from
there
up.
You
go
in
just
take
a
walk
between
that
entrance
and
there
in
either
direction
and
take
a
look
at
the
road.
F
We
got
serious
road
trip
now,
whether
that's
natural
from
the
weight
of
those
trucks
coming
in
there.
I'm
not
an
engineer,
I
couldn't
tell
you
so,
but
there
is
damage
and
again
we
have
quite
large
and
I'm
when
I
say
large,
big
box
trucks,
six
to
eight
wheels.
I
know
a
six
wheel
came
through
there.
One
day
I
was
there
which
come
down
that
road
daily
from
what
some
of
the
residents
are
telling
me.
I
know
our
president,
who
I
think
are
you
signed
up
to
speak?
F
No,
we
have
a
petition
signed
by
a
majority
of
the
homeowners
against
allowing
this
business
to
operate
out
of
there.
We
have
a
huge
concern
even
about
the
one.
That's
there
on
the
zone,
four
property
because
again
they're
using
a
residential
lot
as
a
for
a
business
purpose
which
is
clearly
against
our
subdivision
rules.
F
B
I
I
D
F
F
L
F
F
I
F
L
H
F
F
F
F
This
fence
has
been
down
five
of
those
eight
years.
This
is
my
neighbor's
house,
the
top
picture
there
and
the
bottom
are
both
of
the
same
area.
This
is
the
kind
of
maintenance
that's
going
on.
It
was
brought
up
to
the
prayer
homeowner.
I
can't
remember
his
name
now,
because
I
stopped
back
to
ask
something.
F
F
I
F
F
F
All
right,
but
it
is
going
to
be
used
if
you
license
that
other
business
they're
going
to
be
using
it
for
the
same
manner
and
again
my
biggest
concern
is
the
reason
I
said
it.
The
first
time
I
want
to
be
clear.
I
have
a
five-year-old
three-year-old
that
walked
that
street
a
downgrade
street
from
mexico
down
it's
pretty
much
all
downhill.
F
C
N
John
here
was
talking
about
the
trucks,
the
box
trucks.
Them
are
not
only
the
only
ones
coming
down
the
street.
You
have
tractor
trailers
coming
down
the
street.
I
didn't
get
a
picture
of
them.
We
have
some,
I
believe,
and
they
are
turning
right
in
between
two
houses
that
they
bought
the
lot
and
they
bought
the
lot
for
the
house
to
use.
Now
they
have
a
tractor
trailer
going
in
between
two
houses
at
eight
o'clock,
7
30
in
the
morning.
N
That's
when
the
school
kids
get
out
are
out
and
we
do
not
want
a
tractor-trailer
coming
down
our
street
unless
it's
just
strictly
for
delivery
for
furniture
or
something
like
that
or
somebody's
moving.
This
happens
all
the
time
with
this
tractor
trailer
and
it's
it's
uncalled
for
and
something's
got
to
be
done.
N
You
know
it
comes
down,
sometimes
earl
and
it's
hard
to
catch
them.
I
mean
you're
unless
you're
going
to
sit
out
there
and
launch
here
and
wait,
and
if
we
have
to
do
that,
that's
what
we
will
do,
but
I
saw
it
I
saw
it
turn
in
there.
I
tried
catching
it
and
I
didn't
catch
it,
but
it
went
right
up
right
up
on
the
on
the
property
up
there,
where
the
fence
and
decking
people
are
and
where
the
true
green
is
the
lawn
service
and
it's
a
nightmare.
N
It's
I
mean,
I
don't
believe
you
people
or
anybody
would
want
that
in
their
neighborhood
and
especially
the
poor
people
that
live
the
two
house
house
here
in
the
house.
Here
you
got
a
tractor
trailer
turning
right
there
at
7
30
in
the
morning,
making
all
kinds
of
noise
them.
People
are
retired,
they
don't
need
to
get
up
in
the
morning
and
it's
causing
a
lot
of
problems
for
them
and
that's
how
this
got
started
was
because
of
the
tractor
trailer
and
then
we
find
out
more
and
more
stuff.
That's
going
on
so.
N
N
C
O
H
O
O
O
I
don't
remember
seeing
any
trucks,
I
don't
remember
seeing
anything
and-
and
that
was
probably
because
that
one
gentleman
said
they
had
a
bridge
onto
plaqueminers,
so
they
probably
use
that.
But
recently
I
had
noticed
some
commercial
trucks.
In
fact
this
week
I
I'm
an
early
riser
and
I
got
up
and
I
was
pulled
out
of
the
driveway
and
closed
or
pulled
out
of
the
garage
closed.
The
door
put
my
seatbelt
on
and
looked
and
normally
there's
the
only
people
that
drive
in
there
are
people
who
live
in
the
subdivision.
O
O
L
O
Down-
and
I
said
I
wonder
where
he's
going
well,
he
pulled
into
that
street
too.
You
know-
and
so
I
guess,
since
the
bridge
has
been
gone-
they've
been
using
that
street,
but
you
know
we
bought
that
that's
a
residential
area,
it's
beautiful,
I
love
it
and
you
know
I,
I
don't
think
it's
they're
in
violation.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
approve
their
violation,
and
you
know
I
I'm
all
for
business
and
growing,
but
there's
a
lot
of
other
places
that
they
could.
O
D
O
C
M
M
There
was
a
construction
trader
set
up
on
that
lot
and
it
led
us
all
to
believe
that
the
builder
mr
burkhemper
or
burkhaeper
holmes
was
going
to
like
be
building
on
that
lot
last
and
that
was
you
know
there
were
some
questions
asked.
No
one
really
gave
a
definite
answer,
but
that's
what
everyone
was
leading
us
to
believe
that
that
lot
would
be
built
on
last
and
they'd
pull
the
trailer
out
and
the
trailer
got
pulled
out
and
next
you
know
a
nice
drive
is
being
put
in
there.
M
M
So
I
don't
know
if
the
builder
and
the
plumber
worked
out
a
deal,
giving
that
that
lot
for
them
to
have
access
to
their
their
home
back
in
there
or
whatever.
But
it
wasn't
right
and
I
don't
think
any
anyone
in
our
southern
thought
that
that
house
would
not
be
built
on
that
lot.
So
I
do
agree
with
the
the
gentleman
who
spoke
first
about
the
buses
and
stuff
as
far
as
the
resident
from
pine
pinehurst,
our
streets
in
pinehurst
they're
not
very
wide.
M
My
kids
used
to
pick
up
the
bus
at
pioneers
club
court
in
pinehurst
view,
and
my
wife
was
always
concerned
because
back
then,
when
the
plumbing
company
was
using
it,
they
would
be
pulling
dump
trucks
and
and
pulling
trailers
and
they'd
be
swinging
that
corner,
while
the
kids
are
standing
right
there
on
the
corner
waiting
for
buses.
So
I
think
this
might
be
a
time
to
right
or
wrong
and
not
extend
any
kind
of
you
know
further
advancement
to
commercialization
of
that
property.
M
M
C
P
Hartnett
1226
pinehurst
club
court,
o'fallon
missouri,
so
to
speak
to
a
little
bit
of
timing,
I
moved
in
in
january
of
2000
and
the
bridge
was
still
active.
Then
I
know
that
for
a
fact,
because
my
property
is
12
26
the
last
number
on
there,
so
you
can
see
a
little
bit
of
the
road.
So
I
I
was
watching
the
traffic.
I
don't
have
a
recollection
of
when
exactly
the
bridge
went
out.
P
I
can
tell
you,
sometime
after
I
moved
in
in
january,
danny
holder
did
come
and
I
don't
know
how
many
residents
he
talked
to,
but
whether
you
call
a
petition
or
something,
but
he
had
a
piece
of
paper
that
he
asked
us
to
sign
to
purchase
that
lot
to
use
for
a
residential
drive.
At
that
time
I've
asked
the
city
of
opal
in
the
subdivision.
Nobody
has
that
you
know
today.
I
wish
15
years
ago.
I
would
have
got
a
copy
of
what
I
signed,
but
you
know
trying
to
be
a
nice
neighbor.
P
He
needs
a
driveway
to
his
residence.
I
understand
because
if
you
come
through
plaquemines
like
37
miles
to
get
back
around
there,
it's
really
a
windy,
two-lane
residential
road.
Much
to
this
gentleman
said
there
there
should
be
no
commercial
traffic
on
plaquemier
either.
I
would
challenge
anybody
to
drive
it
same
thing
with
the
residential
road.
I
can't
believe
anybody
grant
access
for
commercial
property
through
a
residential
road
and
that's
what
it
is.
The
other
concern
is
where
the
word
plaquemier
is.
P
That
is
a
watershed
that
comes
on
to
our
property
and
so
any
if
we
would
go
commercial
regardless
of
what's
there
today,
that's
a
slippery
slope,
because
once
you
start
the
way
on
commercial,
it
could
be
heavier
and
heavier
commercial
later,
on
the
watershed
actually
comes
down
on
our
property
and
back
around
into
bellow
creek.
Again
this
way,
so
I
would
be
concerned
about
a
commercial
business
operating
on
that
acreage
and
commercial
watershed
coming
onto
our
property
as
well,
not
to
mention
the
residential
access.
I
mean
commercial.
P
That
was
the
spot.
Zoning,
which
is
not
usually
not
done
in
practice
anymore,
so
I
mean
it's
there,
but
I
would
hate
to
see
any
more.
You
know
13
acres
going
commercial,
that's
that
would
could
in
the
future,
be
a
lot
of
commercial
traffic
shouldn't,
be
on
a
resume
residential
road
shouldn't,
be
on
plaquemines
shouldn't
be
on
pinehurst
club
court.
C
Q
My
name
is
linda
farhat
and
I
live
at
1204
pinehurst
club
court
and
I
don't
want
to
be
redundant.
I
agree
with
everything
that's
been
said
from
my
neighbors,
but
one
thing
that
just
caught
my
interest
with
the
gentleman
that
was
just
speaking,
he
said
he
was
asked
to
sign
something.
Can
I
ask
you
about
that?
Q
Q
The
subdivision
was
supposed
to
actually
have
trustees
assigned
and
and
the
covenant
called
for
a
trust
to
be
established
in
the
trustees,
and
all
mr
burkhemper
did
not
do
that
for
years.
He
did
not
do
that.
We
had
to
force
him
to
do
that
and
actually
have
him
turn
over
the
money
that
we
had
put
up.
They
were
supposed
to
go
into
maintaining
the
subvision
and
all
that,
so
the
subvision
as
a
whole
was
not
informed
of
this
decision
to
take
that
lot
and
allow
it
to
be
a
drive.
Q
If
you
look
at
the
covenant,
I
believe
it
says,
and
I
would
have
to
check
that
every
lot
in
there
is
supposed
to
be
having
one
single
resident
family
dwelling
on
it.
None
of
the
lots
are
supposed
to
be
used
for
a
driveway
to
a
residence.
That
is
not
part
of
the
subdivision,
so
you
know
I
don't
know
how
it
happened,
that
that
was
even
allowed
to
happen,
and
I
think
that
if
anybody
was
to
check
that
out,
they
would
see
that
the
covenant
was
not
followed.
Q
So
hearing
that
you
know
some
people
are
asked
to
sign
something
saying
that
they
agreed
or
disagreed
with
that.
You
know
the
whole
subdivision
wasn't
asked
about
that
and
for
that
to
have
happened.
We
should
have
all
been
asked
because
that's
a
change
to
the
covenant,
and
that
was
restricted
in
the
covenant.
If
anybody
looks
into
that,
so
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
get
that
into
record.
C
R
Debbie
cook
1275,
pinehurst
club
court,
wolf,
allen,
I'm
also
the
city
councilwoman
for
ward,
5
and
o'fallon.
It
happens
to
be
my
subdivision
and
my
award,
so
I
have
a
dual
interest
in
it.
I'm
not
going
to
repeat
what
everybody
said
already,
but
I
do
have
an
o'fallon
ordinance
that
was
provided
to
me,
which
says
that
there
is
to
be.
R
Let
me
read
it.
It
says
the
following
section
of
code
prohibits
the
use
of
property
and
a
residential
district
from
being
used
as
a
major
access
route
to
any
land
in
a
business
district.
So
right
there
we're
using
our
subdivision
for
business
and
we
have
a
couple
different
issues.
I
know
we're
not
here
for
the
plumbing
part
or
the
the
fencing
part,
but
the
18
wheelers
that
are
coming
in
our
street
are
going
to
the
fencing
part.
They
have
their
materials
in
there
they're
long
boards.
R
I
have
a
list
of
all
the
violations
that
are
back
there
there's
about
six
violations.
They
were
to
have
this
one
taken
out
as
of
august
7th.
This
picture
was
taken
on
august
14th
still
back
there,
so
they
have
no
respect
for
any
of
the
violations.
They're
operating,
not
just
one
lawn
service,
but
there's
three
different
services
that
are
coming
in
and
out
of
there.
I've
seen
three
different
trucks
with
the
names
on
the
side
coming
through
there.
R
This
is
the
driveway
that
they're
talking
about
and
it's
a
little
hard
to
see.
But
that's
those
are
two
houses.
Those
are
fences
on
each
side.
So
that's
how
close
that
these
are
coming
to
people's
properties.
The
one
lady
that
lives
on
the
right-hand
side
she
said
one
morning,
she
watched
a
14-foot
semi,
try
to
make
that
turn
to
get
up
into
that
driveway.
R
R
N
H
N
R
R
H
R
So
I
have
all
the
petitions:
if
you
want
copies
of
the
petitions,
I
have
copies
of
pictures.
I
know
I
don't
know
if
everybody
has
a
copy
of
all
the
violations,
I
mean
they
went
in
there
and
put
in
electrical
issues
and
plumbing
issues.
I
got
these
gas
tanks.
Everything
is
done
without
any
permits
so
and
even
though
they've
been
called
out
on
it
they're
still
operating
out
of
there.
As
I
was
walking
down
the
street
yesterday
to
get
some
more
signatures,
I
had
a
car.
H
L
R
Or
yes,
it
had
to
be
a
filing.
Like,
I
said,
from
the
stories
from
knocking
on
doors,
you
get
a
lot
of
stories
and
I've
been
working
with
the
city
trying
to
get
some
information
from
what
we
can
tell
burke,
kemper
and
danny
had
an
agreement
once
he
was
done
producing
and
making
the
subdivision.
The
last
slot
was
kind
of
granted
to
danny
to
use
to
access
that
property.
R
From
the
words
I
was
told,
it
was
supposed
to
be
a
temporary
access.
His
goal
was
to
eventually
fix
the
bridge
in
the
back
and
access
it
that
way,
for
whatever
reason
the
bridge
didn't
get
fixed.
I
don't
know
if
it
was
county's
responsibility.
I
don't
know
if
it
was
private
land
responsibility,
it
didn't
get
done,
so
they
continued
to
use
it
as
a
neighborhood.
R
Most
of
us
didn't
care
that
he
used
it
as
a
residential
drive
and
we
had
some
complaints
back
when
it
was
his
plumbing.
There
was
a
few
people
that
had
brought
up
look.
You
know
his
plumbing
trucks
are
coming
in
out
of
there,
but
because
we
considered
him
a
neighbor,
everybody
had
known
him
for
so
long.
No
one
really
made
an
issue
about
it,
but
now
that
it's
changed
hands,
it's
no
longer
danny
using
it.
R
Now
it's
other
operations,
bigger
trucks,
not
just
danny's,
little
vans
that
we're
running
in
and
out
of
there
that
little
plumbing
vans.
They
look
like
regular
fans
now
we're
into
tractors
and
trailers,
dump
trucks,
big
dually
trucks
with
trailers
behind
them.
You
know,
and
they're
and
they're
in
and
out
all
day
long
and
they
do
start
early
very
very
early.
This
particular
one
of
the
guest
of
this
tank
truck
I
was
taking
this
at.
It
was
about
20
minutes
to
seven
when
they
come
right
in
up
our
street
in
the
morning.
R
C
C
A
As
far
as
how
the
road
went
down.
You
know
that
was
an
agreement
between
dan
holder
and
harold
burkhamper,
and
you
know
I
don't
know
what
all
that
was.
I
do
remember
that
danny
went,
did
go
around
the
neighborhood
and
ask
people
and
he
got
petitions
signed
and
that
everybody
agreed
on
it
before
he
actually
poured
the
concrete
where
that
letter
went
or
if
it
was
went
to
the
city
or
I
have
no
clue.
I
wasn't
really.
You
know
involved
that
much
in
that.
A
Geez,
as
far
as
the
code
compliance
things
like
I-
and
I
was
unaware
that
my
my
ex-husband-
we
built
that
barn
and
we
got
a
permit
in
1999
to
build
the
barn
and
he
just
rock
and
rolled
and
got
it
all
done,
and
all
of
that
well,
I
had
just
found
out
when
this
came.
He
just
had
the
permit
for
the
structure
he
didn't
get
a
permit
for
the
plumbing
the
electrical,
the
framing
none
of
it.
J
J
J
So
that's
what
we
made
sure
that
we
had
and
ever
since
the
everything
has
started
we
haven't
had
them
filled
back
up.
We've
been
kind
of
waiting
to
hear,
so
it's
not
that
we're
just
going
to
keep
on
using
using
using,
but
at
the
same
time
I'm
not
going
to
go,
try
to
find
somewhere
else
to
go
until
I
know
what
the
verdict
is
on
everything
that's
here
and
then
it
sounds
like
90
percent
of
their
concern
is
coming
from
a
building.
That's
not
even
the
one
that
I'm
using.
J
J
As
far
as
giving
weight
goes
out,
you
know,
they're,
they
don't
have
20,
they
have
12
000
pound
plates
on
them.
So
we're
not
hauling
anything.
That's
more
than
that.
Maybe
you
know,
mulch
is
true.
You
know
we
do
bring
mulch
to
and
from
obviously
in
the
spring,
not
so
much
anymore
and
then,
as
far
as
you
know,
the
other
gentleman's
concerned
about
having
kids
at
bus
stops.
I
completely
understand
that,
and
you
know
all
of
us
are
aware
of
that
we're
going
through
a
residential
neighborhood.
J
I
too
have
a
kid
myself
and
I
live
in
a
new
neighborhood
as
well,
and
you
know
that's
something.
I
think
that
everybody's
cautious
of
I'm
sure
there's
a
lot
of
other
people
that
drive
up
and
down
the
streets
just
the
same
way
that
we
do.
I
don't
think
that
you
know.
I
know
that
they're
going
to
want
to
say
that
all
they're
speeding,
they're
doing
this,
but
guys
honest
truth.
J
I
don't
think
you
could
really
speed
with
the
trucks
that,
if
they're
as
big
as
they
think
they
are
it's
kind
of
hard
to
get
them
up
to
that
good
of
a
speed.
I
wish
we
could
sometimes,
but
there's
one
the
one
intersection
that
we
used,
I
think,
is
a
pinehurst
view
drive
most
of
the
time
we
come
in
that
way,
and
also
I'm
like.
I
can't
tell
you
that
some
of
the
guys
don't
go
in
the
other
way.
I
guess
it
depends
on
which
way
from
highway
k
in
mexico
we're
coming
from.
J
If
we're
coming
from
brian,
we
probably
use
pinehurst
view.
If
we're
coming
from
highway
k,
we
probably
use
the
other
one.
So
you
know
I
just
don't
want
to
be
made
up.
I
feel
like
a
criminal,
you
know
I'm
just
most
of
all.
You
know
we're
not
trying
to
do
anything
ignorant
or
I
don't
have
guys
that
are
flying
down
the
street.
The
guys
that
work
for
me
have
worked
for
me
for
a
long
time.
You
know
we're
not
hiring
guys
that
are
criminals
or
convicted
felons
or
anything
like
that
either.
J
So,
if
I
had
many
other
options
like
finding
a
different
building,
I'd
love
to
do
so,
but
obviously
you
guys
know
that
places
that
are
essentially
located
in
el
fallen
are
pretty
few
and
far
between,
and
whenever
I
approached
kim
we
had
came
to
this
agreement.
I
take
care
of
all
the
grass
that's
in
the
area
and
actually
the
house
that's
on
the
property
as
well.
We
take
care
of
so
I
mean
I
guess,
no
matter
what
we're
going
to
be
in
and
out
of
there
at
least
once
a
week.
J
You
know
I
would
have
you
know
second
guessed,
but
I
guess
we'll
see
what
happens
and
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
work
with
people
or
you
know,
listen
to
their
concerns
and
see
what
we
could
do
to
make
it
work
if
there
was
a
way
but
either
way-
and
I
guess
I'm
speaking
on
kim's
behalf
on
this-
if,
if
that
building
was
grandfathered
in
and
it's
zoned
commercially,
you
know
how
to
use.
How
do
you
say?
No?
D
D
J
From
her-
and
it
is
one
business-
it's
not
three
businesses,
I
do
have
a
friend
that
might
have
stopped
by,
but
there
is
two
different.
It
would
look
like
two
different
businesses.
If
you
were
on
our
property
and
looking
at
the
trucks,
I
acquired
a
separate
business
I
bought
out
at
the
beginning
of
season,
but
we
left
the
logos
on
the
truck
the
same
just
so
that
the
customers
that
we
acquired
from
that
company
didn't
get
scared
away
and
things
of
that
nature.
J
C
I
C
The
next
application
on
the
on
the
agenda
is
application:
two
three:
seven:
nine
zero;
an
application
for
a
preliminary
plat
to
develop
three
lots
on
9.91
acres
on
the
west
side
of
dweller
road
at
gold
mine
drive,
the
property
is
zoned:
rr,
single-family,
residential
district,
three
acres,
minimum
lot
size
and
rr
fw
single-family
residential
district,
three
acre
minimum
lot
size
with
floodway
overlay
district.
The
property
is
located
within
council
district,
two
steph.
L
C
C
The
final
application
is
application
number
23856,
an
application
to
rezone
5.0
acres
from
a
agricultural
district,
5
acre
minimum
lot
size
and
a
fw
agricultural
district,
five-acre
minimum
lot
size
with
floodway
overlay
district
to
r1a,
single-family
residential
district,
one
acre
minimum
lot
size
and
r1a
fw
single-family
residential
district.
One
acre
minimum
lot
size
with
floodway
overlay
district
at
one
two,
two
one
dewella
road.
The
property
is
located
within
council
district,
two
staff.
E
I
mean
thank
you,
the
subject:
property
is
it's
zoned
agricultural
to
the
south.
It
is
also
zoned
agricultural
and
there
is
a
residence
on
that
property
to
the
west
is
city
of
wentzville,
also
zoned
agricultural
and
that
property
is
being
used.
Agriculturally
to
the
east
is
r1c
single-family
residential,
the
subdivision
in
the
county
and
to
the
north?
Is
I
miss
subdivision?
E
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
the
the
table,
the
plot
that
was
just
tabled
recently,
zoned
our
I'm,
not
sure
if
we've
gotten
the
rr
zoning
yet,
but
it's
almost
here.
Okay,
the
master
plan
shows
that
the
property
is
to
be
zoned,
low
density,
residential
and
in
reviewing
the
r1a
zoning.
The
r1a
zoning
is
in
keeping
with
the
master
plan.
C
S
S
Boscher
390
creekwood
boulevard,
troy
missouri
go
ahead.
Basically,
I
just
bought
the
property
a
year
ago
and
I'm
ready
to
build
a
house
on
it
and
trying
to
build
something
wider
than
what
I'm
allowed
to
build.
Basically
right
now,
it's
basically
zoned
agricultural.
It's
164
feet
wide
1290
feet
deep.
S
H
S
H
C
I
S
D
C
Mr
suddenly,
yes,
mr
griffin,
yes,
mr
ellis,
yes,
miss
mcbride.
Yes,
I
vote
yes,
mr
leonard.
Yes,
mr
prom,
yes,
mr
yes,
miss
polly,
yes,
emotion
is
approved
ten
to
nothing
all
right.
The
the
last
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
approval
of
the
minutes.
From
last
meeting
we
all
had
a
copy
of
that
is
no
no
changes
and
there's
been
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
as
read.
Is
there
a
second.