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July 15, 2015 - St Charles County, Missouri Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
A
A
A
Applications
heard
during
tonight's
meeting
will
be
voted
on
by
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
during
the
meeting
tonight.
The
planning
and
zoning
commission's
recommendations
on
these
applications
will
then
be
submitted
to
the
st
charles
county
council
for
their
final
decision
on
the
mat
on
the
items
the
individual
items
or
bills
will
be
introduced
at
the
monday
august
10th
2015
county
council
meeting.
A
I
see
we
have
a
quorum.
Will
someone
move
that
we
open?
The
meeting
is
there?
Second?
Second,
all
in
the
following
documents
are
introduced
as
a
matter
of
record
for
the
public
hearing
and
the
regular
meeting
of
the
planning
and
zoning
commission,
the
unified
development
ordinance
of
saint
charles
county,
including
zoning
maps
and
the
year
2025
master
plan
for
saint
charles
county,
which
includes
the
year
2025
future
land
use
plan
map.
A
Just
to
give
you
a
road
map
for
the
evening,
I
will
I
will
read
each
application
into
the
into
the
record.
We
will
then
ask
staff
for
their
recommendation
for
their
analysis
and
recommendation
at
that
time.
The
applicant,
if
they're
in
the
room
and
wishes
to
do
so,
may
come
forward
and
explain
the
application
and
answer
any
questions
the
commission
may
have
at
that.
After
that,
the
we
will
open
up
to
the
public.
A
So
if
there's
anybody
in
the
room
that
wishes
to
speak
on
that
particular
application
may
come
forward
and
do
so
after
the
public
portion
is
over.
The
applicant
may
come
back
forward
and
address
any
of
the
issues
that
were
brought
up
by
the
public
portion
and
address
any
further
concerns
the
council
has,
after
that,
we
will
discuss
it
openly.
The
council
commission
here
will
discuss
it
openly
and
we
will
vote
on
the
vote
on
the
matter
and
again
to
our
recommendations.
A
A
The
applicant,
the
saint
charles
county
planning
and
zoning
commission,
the
property
owner
sienna
realty.
Third,
third
llc,
the
current
zoning
is
c1,
slash,
pud,
neighborhood
commercial
district
with
planned
unit
development
overlay
district,
the
requested
amendment
to
change
that
to
an
r1d,
slash,
pud,
single-family,
residential
district
with
plan
unit
development,
overlay
district,
the
area
of
the
jackson
estates,
pud
west
of
jackson,
state's
platte
1..
A
B
B
The
only
uses
that
they
will
not
be
allowed
to
have
with
with
this
new
zoning
is
the
c2
general
commercial
district,
but
the,
but
it's
already
been
platted
and
the
use
would
remain
as
single-family
residential.
Unless
someone
came
forward
and
changed
it
so
steph
is
recommending
approval.
We
did
receive
one
letter
from
modap
with
no
comments.
A
We
are
the
applicant
this
time
around
all
right.
Well,
we
will
open
this
up
to
the
public.
So
if
there's
anybody
that
wishes
to
speak
on
this
application,
please
feel
free
to
come
forward
and
do
so
and
something
I
forgot
to
remem
remind
every
anybody
that
does
speak.
Please
fill
out
one
of
these
speaker
cards
here
at
the
front
and
place
it
in
the
box
just
so,
we
can
have
a
record
of
your
your
your
notes.
A
C
Bandy
I'm
at
1919,
dietrich
road
and
my
property
is
adjacent
to
the
subject:
property
separated
by
the
width
of
dietrich
road
plus,
the
mr
and
mrs
kaiser
property.
That's
immediately
west
of
the
subject
property
so
right
about
where
the
d
in
dietrich
road
is
there's
due
west
of
where
it
says.
Subject:
property,
that's
about
where
my
property
corners
up
there
on
dietrich
road
I'd
like
to.
I
have
a
couple
different
points.
I'd
like
to
bring
out
and
I'd
like
to
present
you
something
if
I
might
bring
this
up
to
you.
C
C
C
A
lot
of
the
the
feeling
and
sentiment
around
this
is
that
it's
a
gang
symbol,
tagging
gang
territory
25
years.
We
never
encountered
anything
like
this
in
our
area
20
years
ago.
We
never
encountered
anything
like
this
in
our
area
15
10
years
ago,
we
didn't,
but
within
a
year
and
a
half
of
this
property
going
in
we've
got
within
spitting
distance
of
the
entrance
of
the
subdivision
and
within
spitting
distance
of
the
sewer
treatment
plant
that
you
all
are
all
too
familiar
with.
We've
got
this.
C
C
Now
always
has
been
a
bad
plan
and
it's
totally
out
of
place.
I
understand
that
you
know
you
all
are
trying
to
remedy
what
was
done
years
ago
and
try
and
you
know,
get
things
on
a
a
better
path,
but
a
little
bit
of
humor
here
kind
of
tongue-in-cheek.
But
all
this
to
say,
I
kind
of
see
what
has
happened
with
this
property
over
the
years,
similar
or
in
line
with
an
involuntary
annexation.
C
C
C
You
know
there's
a
lot
of
home
large
lot
homes
there
immediately
south
and
in
big
country,
subdivision
they're,
going
to
have
people
all
over
the
place,
there's
going
to
be
policing
issues,
there's
going
to
be
trespass
issues,
there's
going
to
be
disputes,
and
I
want
to
know
what
the
planning
and
zoning
committee
here
does.
What
their
plans
are,
what
they
think
about
in
terms
of
policing
with
situations
like
this,
because
we're
talking
about
a
lot
of
houses,
a
lot
of
people,
potentially
a
lot
of
trespassing
or
domestic
disputes
or
fender
benders.
C
C
We
don't
walk
on
dietrich
road
anymore,
like
we
used
to
as
a
nice
country
lane
we
don't
ride
bikes
on
dietrich
road,
like
we
used
to
as
a
country
lane,
because
it's
a
death
wish
I've
had
cars
flipped
on
my
property.
I've
had
cars
in
broad
daylight,
dry,
roads,
spin
out
and
end
up
spun
around
in
my
driveway
all
kinds
of
craziness
because
of
out
of
control,
speeding
and
just
general
disregard
for
what
we've
got
there
in
a
peaceful
community.
C
C
That's
one
topic:
the
other
is
that
this
is
a
very
vague
application
here,
where
it
says
partial
or
preliminary
plat
of
150
lots.
How
much
of
that
34.3
acres
is
taken
up
by
those
150
lots?
Presumably
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
more,
many
more
lots
in
that
34.3
acres,
and
I
understand
that
your
staff
is
suggesting
this
passage.
C
I
would
like
to
see
the
whole
picture
here
because
we're
talking
about
an
extremely
high
density
against
a
property
where
homes
are
on
three
five:
six,
eight
ten
acres-
and
you
know
there
had
been
talk
before
about
trying
to
provide
some
green
space
or
buffer
space
or
increasing
the
lot
size
on
that
perimeter.
There,
a
j
with
the
adjacent
subject,
properties
where
they're
not
inundated
with
these
tiny
postage
stamp
lots
next
to
them.
C
So
is
it
possible
to
get
some
clarification
on
what
this
really
means
when
it
says
150
preliminary
platted
lots
only
on
this
subject,
34
acres,
because
I
think
that
we
all
know
that
this
was
extremely
high
density
too
high
density
for
the
area,
and
I
would
like
to
question
exactly
how
the
density
calculation
was
done.
Did
it
include
streets?
Did
it
include
areas
that
should
not
have
been
included
to
begin
with
the
sewer
treatment
area?
C
You
know
what
can
and
can't
be
included
in
this
density
calculation.
So
I
would
like
to
call
that
into
question
and
and
ask
that
the
pnc
council
here
review
that
thoroughly
review
those
details
and
not
give
this
developer
a
free
hand
and
free
ride
on
his
density
for
this
rezoning.
That's
all
I
got
thank
you.
A
E
A
E
D
B
Right,
yeah,
okay,
yeah
and,
and
they
well,
we
we
as
staff,
are
not
proposing
any
change
in
the
in
the
plan
at
all.
If
the
developer
wants
to
change
the
layout
of
the
subdivision
from
what
was
originally
approved,
then
he's
going
to
have
to
come
back
before
the
commission
will
notify
everyone
within
a
thousand
feet.
E
F
A
The
applicant
is
amy
grigsby,
the
owner
is
a
r
stephen
and
katherine
m
barnett.
The
application
requests
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
lawn
care
service.
The
property
is
currently
zoned
a
agricultural
district
with
five
five
acre
minimum
lot
size.
The
property
is
located
on
the
south
side
of
highway
end
approximately
530
feet:
east
of
gallup
lane
the
property
is
approximately
3.39
acres
in
size
and
is
located
within
council
district
2.
staff.
All.
B
B
This
property
has
been
zoned
agricultural
since
1959,
and
what
they're
proposing
is
a
lawn
care
service
with
a
2,
700
square,
foot,
storage
building
and
seven
gravel
employee
parking
spaces.
One
thing
I
do
want
to
bring
up
about
the
gravel
parking
spaces.
The
commission
cannot
approve
the
gravel
parking
spaces,
that's
that's
their
request
when
they
come
through
with
their
site
plan
and
get
staff
approval
for
their
site
plan.
Robert
is
the
person
in
the
ordinance
that
approves
the
gravel
parking
spaces.
B
There's
the
it
has
good
sight
distance
at
the
entrance,
and
so
staff
is
recommending
approval.
Our
approval
is
subject
to
a
site
plan
being
submitted
to
and
approved
by
the
saint
charles
county
community
development
department,
indicating
the
entrance
parking
and
location
of
all
structures.
Two
no
conditional
use
shall
be
in
active
use
until
all
conditions
of
approval
have
been
met.
B
Three,
in
any
case
where
a
conditional
use
is
not
in
place
and
in
active
use
within
two
years,
from
the
date
of
granting
and
or
in
accordance
with
the
terms
of
the
conditional
use
originally
granted
or
subsequently
amended,
then,
without
further
action
by
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
and
or
the
county
council,
the
conditional
user
authorization
thereof
shall
be
null
and
void.
We
did
receive
one
letter
from
modet
and
they
had
no
comments.
Any
questions
of
staff.
A
G
D
H
G
H
G
H
E
F
G
G
F
B
I
A
C
H
H
A
The
applicant
is
jason,
jason
hooper
property
owner
is
robert
chantro
chatrov.
Excuse
me
the
application
requests
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
nursery
and
lawn
care.
Service
property
is
currently
zoned.
A
agricultural
district,
the
5
acre
minimum
lot
size
and
is
located
on
the
east
side
of
hopewell
road.
Approximately
675
feet
north
of
deer
road.
B
All
right,
thank
you.
The
subject,
property
and
the
adjacent
properties
are
also
a
agricultural
district.
Landis
is
in
the
area
include
to
the
north,
a
vacant
residential
property
to
the
south,
as
single-family
residents
to
the
east
is
the
single-family
residence
of
vacant
agricultural
and
to
the
west
is
single-family
residents
an
agricultural
farm
and
a
telecom
telecommunications
tower
steph
is,
oh
I'm
sorry.
They
intend
to
do
a
lawn
care
service
and
a
nursery
at
this
location
there'll
be
a
building
once
again
gravel
parking
and
then
nursery
bins.
B
North
of
the
structure
on
the
site
staff
has
reviewed
the
site
relative
to
the
criteria
for
the
conditional
use
permit
for
the
nursery
and
the
lawn
care
service.
I
mean
this
is
just
probably
a
mile
or
so
from
the
one
we
had
last
month
for
mr
chatro
on
hopewell
road,
so
staff
is
recommending
approval
the
having
the
nursery
on
the
side.
It
does
allow
them
to
do
some
outdoor
storage
with
the
residences
around
around
this
site
and
the
and
the
existing
vegetation
and
we're
putting
conditions
on
that.
B
The
that
the
uses
be
set
back,
40
feet
from
the
side
and
50
feet
from
the
rear
property
lines,
the
regular
agricultural
setbacks
and
that
that
vegetation
remain
undisturbed.
So
we
have
that
natural
buffer
to
the
adjacent
properties.
So
we
are
recommending
approval,
subject
to
a
site
plan
being
submitted
to
and
approved
by
the
st
charles
county
community
development
department,
indicating
the
entrance
parking
and
location
of
all
structures.
B
B
3,
no
conditional
use
shall
be
in
active
use
until
all
conditions
of
the
approval
have
been
met
for
in
any
case
where
a
conditional
use
is
not
in
place
and
in
active
use
within
two
years,
from
the
date
of
granting
and
or
in
accordance
with
the
terms
of
the
conditions
originally
granted
or
subsequently
amended.
Then,
without
further
action
by
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
and
or
the
county
council,
the
conditional
use
or
authorization
thereof
shall
be
null
and
void,
and
there
were
no
letters.
Any
questions
of
staff
yeah
gary.
A
I
I'm
jason
hooper
32
royal
aston
three,
three,
four
josh
hooper,
two
five
five
england
drive
o'fallon
six,
three,
three,
six,
six,
all
right
go
ahead,
so
our
intentions
are.
We
currently
have
a
contract
on
the
to
purchase
the
piece
of
property
from
rob,
shatrow
and
we'd
like
to
upon
purchase,
put
a
building
to
work
out
of
a
pole,
barn
style
building.
I
think
40
by
60,
is
what
I
had
put
on
the
drawing
and
that
would
be
to
store
our
lawn
equipment
which
lawn
mowers,
trimmers
blowers,
wheelbarrows
that
kind
of
stuff.
I
A
H
H
A
All
right,
mr
griffin,
how
do
you
vote?
Yes?
Mr
mcbride?
Yes,
mr
ellis,
yes,
I
vote.
Yes,
mr
lander.
Yes,
mr
miss
paulie,
yes,
mr
hammond,
yes
and
mr
sutherly.
Yes,
all
right
application
is
approved,
9-2-0
all
right.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
approval
of
the
minutes.
From
last
month.
We've
all
had
a
chance
to
take
a
look.
Any
changes,
suggestions,
comments.
F
A
Well,
there
is
a
one
more
announcement
before
we
end.
This
will
be
my
last
meeting
my
family
and
I
are
moving
to
columbia,
closer
to
work
for
me
and
closer
to
family
for
my
in-laws,
so
this
will
be.
As
of
august
1st,
I
will
no
longer
be
a
resident
of
saint
charles
county.
Therefore
I
cannot
serve
on
the
st
charles
county,
county
planning
and
zoning
commission.
So
yeah
it's
been
a
pleasure
and
an
honor
serving
with
you
for
the
past.