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Watch the St. Charles County Planning and Zoning meeting from July 21, 2021.
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B
B
B
Applications
for
conditional
use,
permit
request
and
rezoning
requests
will
be
heard
during
tonight's
meeting
and
the
commission
will
vote
on
these
applications
and
make
a
recommendation
to
the
county
council.
The
applications
will
then
be
scheduled
to
be
introduced
before
the
county
council
at
the
monday
august,
9th
2021
county
council.
Meeting
public
comment
for
con.
Excuse
me
for
conditional
use.
Permit
requests
will
be
taken
during
tonight's
meeting
and
at
the
council
meeting
on
monday
august,
9th
2021
public
comment
on
conditional
use.
B
H
H
B
All
in
favor
sign
eye:
okay
I'll
go
through
a
little
some
more
preliminary
items,
but
I
will
let
everyone
know
that
commissioner
barr
is
with
us
virtually
this
evening,
so
she
you
may
hear
this
voice
coming
out
of
the
out
of
the
roof
ceiling
up
here.
That's
commissioner,
barr
she's
at
home,
not
feeling
the
the
best
and
felt
it
was
best
for
her
to
stay
home
this
evening.
B
B
Then
we
will
have
the
applicant
to
come
forward
and
present
their
application
and
then
answer
any
questions
that
the
commission
may
have.
Then
we
will
open
the
meeting
up,
have
a
public
hearing
for
that
application.
Okay,
anyone
wishing
to
speak
regarding
the
application
can
come
forward
during
the
public
hearing.
B
Now
I
will
tell
everyone
that
in
these,
if
you
come
forward
to
speak,
I
have
to
have
to
swear.
You
swear
you
win.
So
when
I
say
please
raise
your
right
hand.
Once
we
have
close
the
public
hearing,
we
will
take
no
more
comments
from
the
public
and
then
we
may
or
may
not
ask
the
applicant
to
come
back
and
address
any
concerns
or
issues
that
arose
as
part
of
the
public
hearing
and
then
at
that
time
the
commission
will
discuss
the
application
and
then
proceed
to
to
vote.
B
If
you
are
going
to
speak,
please
fill
out
one
of
these
cards
they're
over
here
on
the
table.
Please
fill
this
out,
put
it
in
our
little
collection
box.
This
way
it
ensures
that
we
get
your
name
correct
in
our
minutes,
because
those
are
our
public
records.
Okay,
as
part
of
the
public
hearing,
we
will
provide
an
opportunity
for
interested
parties
to
speak.
B
However,
if
we
get
three
to
four
people
coming
to
talk
about
the
same
thing:
okay,
if
you
come
to
talk
about
well,
this
is
going
to
increase
traffic
well
after
the
third
person.
We
understand
that
point.
Okay,
so
please
limit
your
comments,
okay
and
speak
to
the
to
the
application
and
try
not
to
be
repetitive
of
the
person
before
you.
B
The
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
a
rezoning
request.
The
location
is
1371
silver's
row,
the
application
numbers
rz
21-11,
the
property
owner
is
darren
m
ziegenmaier.
The
current
zoning
is
a
agricultural
district
with
floodway
fringe
overlay
district
requested
zoning
is
light.
Industrial
district
with
floodway
fringe
overlay
district,
the
2030
master
plan,
recommends
industrial
uses.
The
parcel
size
is
8.08
acres
of
an
11.08
acre
parcel.
B
E
E
E
The
owner
was
able
to
remove
three
acres
under
the
agricultural
district
and
simply
split
the
parcel
without
having
to
plat.
It
is
a
consideration
that
we
do
have
in
the
unified
development
ordinance,
so
the
remainder
track,
the
8.08
acres.
They
are
asking
for
i1
zoning,
which
includes
both
an
up
zoning
from
a
to
i1
agricultural
to
i1,
and
also
a
down
zoning
from
i2
down
to
i1.
E
In
this
consideration,
you
may
have
read
the
staff
report.
There
is
an
agreement,
a
memorandum
of
agreement
between
the
city
of
saint
peter's
and
the
county
to
only
allow
up
to
a
certain
amount
of
industrial
development
along
this
salt
river
road
corridor
that
this
is
also
located
on
it's
at
the
corner
of
silver's
and
salt
river
road.
E
E
E
You
know
other
heavy
chemical
manufacturing
things
that
are
just
permissive
in
i2
would
not
be
allowed
in
this
i1
district,
any
development
also,
and
for
consideration
on
this
property.
There
are
no
services,
no
utilities,
there's
no
it
would.
There
would
only
be
a
septic
system
available
and
I
believe
it's
on
well
if
they
did
develop
for
any
reason,
so
any
industrial
development
would
more
than
likely
have
to
access
city
of
saint
peter's
utilities
for
that
development.
E
The
last
consideration
that
staff
looked
at
was
the
future
land
use
plan,
as
I
mentioned
before,
when
we
were
re
redoing,
the
2030
land
use
plan,
nothing
had
really
changed
in
this
area,
with
agreement
and
consideration
from
the
city
of
saint
peter's
and
the
city
of
o'fallon.
Further
to
the
west,
development
from
silvers
road
west
was
considered
to
be
potential
industrial
development,
with
development
to
the
right
remaining,
an
agricultural
use,
so
staff
did
look
at
that
land
use
consideration
with
all
of
that.
I
C
E
Directly
across
and
to
the
southwest
of
this
and
to
the
and
further
to
the
west,
so
it
would
probably
be
an
expansion
of
that
park
if
any
development
would
take
place
if
it
stayed
unincorporated
county
with
our
history,
with
more
than
likely
going
to
become
a
storage
facility.
I
I
don't
know
for
sure,
but
that's
about
all
we
could
allow
for
development
and
use
in
the
light
industrial
zoning.
So
staff
is
recommending
that
you
recommend
approval
on
this.
J
E
B
G
E
B
L
L
And
when
I
was
selling
my
house,
that
was
one
thing
the
counties
said
was
in
the
recommendation
of
the
20
2030
plan
was
to
have
it
rezoned
by
industrial.
So
I
thought
it
was
a
good
time
to
bring
more
value
to
my
property
to
go
ahead
and
go
through.
While
I
was
already
splitting
the
property
to
go
and
bring
the
rezoning
in
for
if
I
wanted
to
do
something
future
down
the
road
to
get
a
rezone.
Now,
while
I
was
already
in
the
process.
B
B
B
M
M
M
And
what
we're
going
to
ask
you
tonight
is
to
use
salt
river
road
as
the
demarcation
line
between
further
development.
In
the
flood
plain.
Only
that
way,
can
you
really
carry
out
the
intent
of
that
memorandum
that
1000
feet
has
nothing
to
do
about
the
road.
It's
just
that
where
that
road
could
be
placed.
There's
nothing
in
that
agreement
says
that's
where
the
development
line
should
be.
That's
our
take
on
that
staff
is
focused
on
technical
issues,
but
I
want
to
focus
you
on
more
important
human
factors.
M
M
Will
the
rezoning
clash
and
be
detrimental
to
the
existing
agricultural
and
residential
uses
and,
in
general,
will
the
rezoning
harm
the
health,
safety
and
welfare
of
the
people
and
the
surrounding
properties?
We've
submitted
about
a
dozen
opposition
letters
from
the
people
in
the
surrounding
area,
who
are
also
strongly
opposed
to
this
rezoning?
One
of
the
reasons
is
it's
going
to
devalue
their
property.
As
you
can
see,
there
are
three
residential
houses
right
to
the
east
of
this
property.
Those
people
have
lived
there
and
your
decision
tonight
will
affect
how
they
live
in
the
future.
M
They
don't
want
an
industrial
use
right
in
their
backyard.
Secondly,
this
parcel
is
not
well
suited
for
industrial,
although
the
master
plan
does
show
west
of
silvers
road
as
being
industrial
in
the
future.
That's
only
a
guide.
You
have
to
look
at.
What's
happened
now.
What's
happened
now,
salt
river
road
is
now
a
four-lane
road
45
miles
an
hour
with
a
nearly
blind
curve
there
right
at
silver's
road.
M
It
also
sits
much
lower
than
the
level
of
the
road
about
four
or
five
feet
down
into
the
flood
plain,
if
there's
development
here,
and
they
raise
that
that
parcel
with
fill
it's
going
to
flood
silver's
road
and
right
now,
anytime,
there's
a
five
inch
rain
event.
Silver's
road
floods
and
those
people
have
to
get
there
by
boats
rezoning.
This
will
only
exacerbate
that
problem.
M
M
As
I
said,
the
the
rezoning
will
be
detrimental
to
the
existing
residential
uses.
Silvers
road
is
the
gateway
to
a
lot
of
these
residences,
and,
if
that's
an
industrial
use,
it's
going
to
cause
a
problem
also
right
now,
traffic.
There
is
a
problem.
It
takes
a
long
time
to
get
out
of
silver's
road
as
it
is.
If
there's
further
dense
industrial
use
there,
it's
going
to
be
very
difficult
and
it
creates
a
danger
hazard
danger.
M
You
really
can't
fit
a
turn
lane
there,
because
the
radius
and
the
deep
drop
off
into
the
floodplain
going
to
the
master
plan.
I
recognize
that
it
says
industrial,
but
if
you
look
at
the
policies,
the
strategies
and
the
issues
raised
in
that
master
plan
and
apply
them
to
the
situation
today,
you
would
come
to
the
exact
opposite
conclusion
that
industrial
is
the
right
zoning
for
this.
M
M
I
mentioned
the
storm
water
issues.
The
master
plan
says
you're
supposed
to
look
at
the
effect
of
storm
water
and
where
it's
going
to
go,
this
will
only
make
the
problem
with
stormwater.
Much
much
worse,
you
can
say
yeah
they
can
have
detention
ponds,
but
the
master
plan
also
says
that
you
must
consider
that
the
fact
that
these
private
stormwater
detention
ponds
don't
really
last
very
long
and
in
fact
they
mentioned
arrowhead
arrowhead
has
a
detention
pond
on
the
other
side
of
the
road,
but
now
it's
just
a
forest.
M
M
M
You
will
probably
hear
from
a
lot
of
the
neighbors
tonight
how
they
are
opposed
to
it,
how
it's
going
to
be
a
detriment
to
how
they
live
there,
how
it's
going
to
diminish
their
value
of
their
property.
I
know
mr
zigemeier
wants
to
increase
the
value
of
his
one
parcel,
but
by
doing
that,
you're
going
to
decrease
the
value
of
so
many
other
parcels
along
the
road,
and
you
need
to
take
that
substantial
issue
into
effect.
M
B
N
B
N
N
Olendorf1360
silvers
wrote:
go
ahead,
wayne,
okay,
this
is
kind
of
hard
for
us
because
for
me,
particularly
because
darren
is
a
really
good
friend
and
I
don't
like
doing
anything
to
oppose
darren
per
se,
but
I
said
I
have
to
speak
out
on
this
one.
If
you
can
his
property,
you
can
see
where
it
is
the
property
right
to
the
right
of
it
there.
N
N
Now
you
will
say
asphalt
does
not
absorb
any
water,
so
anything
would
get
built
down
here.
It's
going
to
make
the
water
thing
run.
Even
worse.
Worse
and
worse,
I
used
to
be
on
the
saint
peter's
drainage
board,
which
you
can't
see
beyond
that.
Pitcher
is
our
main.
Ditch
standard
ditch
number
one
arrowhead
dumps
like
four
big
pipes
into
it
and
we
get
actually
no
tax
benefits
from
arrowhead
whatsoever,
but
what
it
does
it
fills
ditch
number
one
up
and
all
these
ditches
up
here
can't
drain
till
ditch
number
one
drains.
N
N
I
don't
particularly
oppose
the
development
of
this
property
for
light
commercial.
I
just
got
to
fight
it
for
the
drainage
part
of
the
of
the
of
the
property.
It's
going
to
throw
a
lot
of
water
down
our
way
that
we
can't
take
care
of
right
now
and
that's
my
biggest
proposal
biggest
opposition
to
this.
This
parcel
okay.
Other
than
that,
I'm
done!
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
B
I
Silver's
road
has
two
for
bicycles
and
traffic
and
stuff,
and
I
farm
you
know
for
living
too,
and
it's
almost
impossible
to
get
on
get
out
on
silver's
road
with
a
grain
truck
right
now
between
in
the
morning
and
the
evening,
you
almost
got
to
plant
it
for
during
the
day
and
the
silver
roads
become
quite
popular
for
bicyclists
I
mean
any
sunday
morning
or
saturday
morning.
There's
I
don't
have
any
idea
how
many
hundreds
go
up
and
down
there.
I
It
makes
it
difficult
enough,
but
then
also
silver's
road
when,
when
the
mississippi
comes
up
and
blocks
off
the
other
end
of
silver's
road
from
highway
c,
that's
the
only
way
out
the
only
route
out
for
everybody
that
lives
down
below
there.
You
know
you
put
a
development
up
there
with
trailer
trucks
coming
in
and
out
or
whatever
you
know,
whatever
kind,
whatever
it
could
be
developed
for
that
just
enhances
the
issue
and
I've
been.
I
I've
lived
here
all
my
life
and
stuff
and,
like
I
said
I'm
just
like
wayne,
I
don't
have
anything
against
darren
in
them.
I
appreciate
them
trying
to
increase
the
value
of
their
property.
I
don't
blame
every
anybody
for
that,
but
the
fact
is
when
he
sells
he's
going
to
be
gone
and
we're
still
going
to
be
there.
So
that's
that's
about
all.
I
got
to
say,
okay!
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you.
P
B
P
P
P
It
used
to
be
a
little
bit
comical
until
we
got
to
realizing
that
cargo
is
under
that
trailer.
Everybody
in
that
car
is
dead,
there's
no
stopping
it.
They
don't
have
good
brakes.
They
don't
have
good
power,
and
this
happens
over
and
over
all
day
and
all
night,
so
that
to
me
is
a
big
issue.
Also
your
map
and
this
map
are
not
the
same.
P
A
P
C
Q
P
P
So
I
will
have
an
industrial
park
right
at
my
house
with
nighttime
horns.
Honking
somebody
opened
the
dock
door,
we
needed
to
you,
know
unload
and
fumes,
possibly
which
we
already
have
load
trucks,
their
boat
tricks,
I
believe
voltricks
have
fumes
and
what
it
is.
They're
cleaning
the
air
up
in
their
warehouse
and
the
fumes
come
out
to
us.
P
Q
Q
E
E
E
B
T
C
T
T
If
it
doesn't
it'll
preach
those
levees,
but
if
it
doesn't
break
those
levees,
then
it's
going
to
back
up
it's
going
to
hit
the
train
trussel
in
old
town,
saint
peter's
backs
up
and
it
will
come
over
salt
river
road.
It's
done
it
and
it'll.
Do
it
again
where
it
comes
over
is
where
this
property
lies
through
there,
the
lowest
part
where
it
goes
is
through
the
fields
the
houses
are
higher.
B
F
A
F
They
had
darden
creek
come
up
flooded,
closed,
highway,
70
completely
down,
I'm
sure
everybody
remembers
all
the
newspapers
and
everything
around
and
all
that
water
comes
down
there
and
it
actually
goes
underneath
well,
like
I
said,
underneath
railroad
trestle
and
it
come
over
silver's,
ro
or
salt
lake
road,
the
new
road
that
they
put
in
it
actually
topped.
It
was
coming
over
like
six
inches
deep
just
about
in
the
spot,
where
they're
wanting
to
build
when
they
put
in
this
new
road.
F
They
took
down
the
old
levee
that
used
to
protect
us
and
they
put
the
low
road
in
lower
salt.
River
road
is
lower
than
the
old
levee
that
used
to
protect
us.
So
when
the
creek
come
up
that
high,
it
actually
come
over
the
road
and
run
across
almost
exactly
where
they're
they're
wanting
to
put
this
our
commercial
property.
O
L
I
was
thinking-
maybe
a
storage
lot.
I
don't
know
it
all
depends
what
gets
brought
to
my
attention,
I'm
in
no
hurry
to
sell
the
property
right
now.
Like
I
said
earlier,
I
was
told
that
this
was
part
of
the
county's
master
plan.
I
was
already
in
the
process
of
rezoning
to
sell
my
property.
I
had
to
split
it
up
and
county
brought
to
my
attention
that
it
was
going
there.
I
talked
to
a
few
people.
L
M
L
M
B
J
Yeah,
I
think
at
this
point
I
think
that
while
industrial
may
come
about,
I
think
it's
premature.
I
think
if
you
look
at
that
fairly
clearly
divided
between
the
developed
along
the
I
guess
the
west
side
of
salt
root
and
I
think,
while
it
may
eventually
develop
that
way,
I
think
it's
premature
and
maybe
by
2030
it
will
be,
but
I
think
it'd
be
premature
to
zone
it.
That
way.
At
this
point,.
B
S
G
G
B
S
B
G
G
A
B
B
So
this
is
a
preliminary
plan,
make
sure
I
got
the
first
one.
Preliminary
plat
for
2015
joseph
phil
subdivision
application,
number
pre,
21-11
the
property
owner
developers,
birdie
incorporated
engineer
surveyors
premier
design
group,
the
property
zoning
is
light.
Industrial
district
proposed
lots
is
twos
parcel
size
of
16.9
acres.
The
location
is
on
the
west
side
of
josephine
road,
south
of
mexico,
road
and
east
of
the
general
motors
plant
located
in
council
district
1.
B
E
All
right
on
this
presentation
here,
just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
where
this
property
is
located.
215
josephville
is
a
broad
area,
there's
several
different
properties
right
now
that
are
called
215
josephville.
We
do
have
it
out
to
911
emergency
services
to
start
addressing
them
separately
so,
but
for
right
now
we're
referring
to
this
as
215
joseph
bill.
E
E
So
this
is
just
lot
one
and
lot
two
of
that
property
and
it's
just
simply
dividing
the
property
into
two
pieces.
Lot.
Two
is,
let's
see
it's
seven
and
a
half
acres
and
the
remainder
approximately
nine
acres
remains
unlike
lot
one
for
by
this
owner.
So
this
is
the
first
plot.
It's
just
simply
dividing
the
two
parts,
the
the
parcel
into
two
separate
parcels.
Two
lots
staff
has
reviewed
it
for
technical
consideration.
E
There
are
no
issues;
they
will
have
to
work
with
our
highway
department
for
commercial
entrances
for
development,
and
that
is
the
only
requirement
left
now.
The
only
other
thing
is
at
a
later
date.
Wentzville
may
be
developing
this
area.
They
have
indicated
that
they
would
be
asking
for
a
right-of-way
county
has
no
consideration.
E
But
the
county
has
no
jurisdiction
to
ask
for
that.
It
is
not
in
our
county
development
plan
or
the
the
highways
plan.
They
are
not
asking
for
any
right-of-way
at
this
time,
so
staff
is
recommending
approval
with
that
condition
that
they
still
obtain
entrance
permits
from
the
county
highway
department.
Any.
E
E
Typically
you're
not
going
to
get
permission
to
put
a
major
entrance
heavy
entrance
like
that
over
a
pipeline
entrance,
so
I
I
think
they
will
always
be
accessing
from
josephine
road.
The
city
of
wenceville
has
a
thoroughfare
plan
that
they
are.
I
think
I
believe,
they're
still
working
on,
but
their
plan
for
the
future.
E
S
B
B
U
Justin
winters
with
premier
design
group
100
midland
park,
drive
wentzville
missouri
63385
go
ahead,
just
yep,
I'm
here
tonight
for
the
proposed
subdivision
plate.
You
have
before
you
to
split
the
one
parcel
into
two
as
depicted
in
the
exhibit
shown
above,
and
I
guess
I
you
know
would
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
If
you
have
any
also
with
me
tonight
is
beth
lum,
who
may
have
some
additional
information
to
speak
on.
B
H
H
E
E
H
Got
it
new,
it's
beeping
at
me,
oh
the
other
right.
Thank
you.
You're
welcome
all
right,
so
the
overall
project
actually
involves
items
two
through
five
on
your
agenda
tonight,
which
are
conditional
use
permits
to
operate
a
vitamix
plant,
a
conditional
use
permit
for
some
outdoor
storage
and
then
subdividing
the
property
into
two
lots
and
then
further
subdividing
it
into
two
sublots.
H
H
This
is
proposing
simply
to
split
the
16
acres
into
two
lots,
with
one
being
about
seven
and
a
half
acres
and
the
other
containing
the
balance,
and
then
the
two
lots
or
excuse
me
lot.
Two
will
be
further
subdivided
into
lots,
2a
and
2b
the
proposed
lot
1.
I
will
be
retained
by
birdie
inc.
It's
not
really
involved
in
these
proceedings.
A
H
H
B
V
B
B
J
E
A
B
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
pre
21-12
preliminary
plat
for
re-subdivision
of
lot
2
of
2015
joseph
phil
subdivision
the
property
owner
developers
birdie
incorporated
the
applicant
is
james
m
losch
losing
of
josephine
road
llc
property.
Zoning
is
light.
Industrial
district
proposed
losses,
2
parcel
size
is
7.5
acres
of
16.9
acres.
The
location
is
on
the
west
side
of
joseph
hill,
road,
south
of
mexico,
road
east
of
the
general
motors
plan
located
in
council
district
1
staff.
E
E
B
O
W
W
Bruce
and
I
have
gone
in
together
on
that
piece
of
property-
I
currently
own
and
rent
a
piece
of
property.
That's
right!
Next
to
it,
I
have
a
concrete
plant
on
there
to
service.
Like
general
motors
in
the
windsville
area,
this
property
became
available,
and
so
we
put
a
contract
on.
It
would
like
to
put
my
new
office
on
there,
which
I'm
sure
we'll
show
a
little
bit
about
and
a
garage
for
some
maintenance
stuff
and
then
put
our
existing
concrete
plant.
That
is
right.
A
B
B
B
J
J
B
A
B
B
Lucy
for
josephine
road
llc
requested
use
a
ready
mix,
concrete
operation
and
batch
plant
property.
Zoning
is
light.
Industrial
district
cup
area
is
4.5
acres.
The
location
is
2015
joseph
hill
road,
northern
half
of
lot
2a
on
the
west
side
of
joseph
hill,
road,
south
of
mexico,
road
and
east
of
the
general
motors
plant
located
in
council
district,
one
staff.
E
All
right
so
back
to
that
division
that
mr
lozie
was
talking
about.
The
northern
parcel
would
be
the
lot
2a
proposed
lot.
2A
now
the
applicant
has
submitted
a
separate
concept
plan
that
is
not
in
a
color
rendition
which
would
go
for
ordinance
hearing,
but
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
use
the
rendering,
with
both
properties
on
there
just
zooming
in
on
each
one.
E
So
what
the
applicant
is
proposing
is
an
office
building
towards
the
front
of
the
property,
a
shop
and
garage
towards
the
middle
portion
of
the
property,
the
batch
plant
area
and
the
materials
storage,
with
washout
truck
parking
and
and
such
detention
storm
water
area
would
be
towards
the
back
of
this
property,
and,
as
I
mentioned
there
is
that
pipeline
easement
running
along
kind
of
as
an
a
boundary
between
there
and
highway
a
and
there's
heavily
wooded
area.
Also
back
there.
E
So
steph
the
the
only
consideration
we
will
probably
be
working
a
little
closer
on
on
the
actual
site
plan.
Development
is
whether
or
not
they're
going
to
choose
to
change
their
parking
a
little
bit
around
this
building,
I'm
not
sure
about
their
development
here,
and
we
will
work
with
them
on
that,
but
better
to
prepare
now
for
five
to
ten
years
down
the
road
than
to
than
to
be
crushed
and
have
to
sell
property,
right-of-way
area
to
wentzville
and
and
be
trying
to
change
things
up
at
that
time.
E
B
H
H
H
I
think
right
now
you
can
see
the
existing
cement
plant
just
to
the
north
of
the
subject.
Property
and
the
surrounding
properties
include
other
storage
and
sales
facilities,
so
somewhat
closer
shot
of
the
subject,
property
and
again
a
little
bit
further
out.
The
surrounding
businesses,
of
course,
are
the
gm
plant
there's
a
trailer
distribution
center,
the
recycling
center
camping
world
and
clark
power
services,
all
of
which
are
some
kind
of
light.
Industrial
manufacturing
or
storage
type
business,
and
then
the
properties
that
are
not
occupied
are
generally
farmland.
H
C
H
H
Our
client,
currently
at
their
location
at
323,
engages
in
a
wash
off
system
and
I'll.
Have
you
tell
me
if
I
identified
everything
correctly,
but
they
have
a
three-step
process
which
involves
washing
the
trucks
off
first
at
their
wash
off
station
and
then
from
time
to
time,
they'll
take
the
sweeper
out
to
clean
up
the
entrance
way
and
pick
up
debris
with
a
skid
loader.
H
H
H
So
all
taken
the
proposed
use
is
compatible
with
the
surrounding
properties
and
businesses,
many
of
which
are
the
same
kind
or
type
of
business,
because
the
space
around
the
property
is
for
related
businesses.
It
will
not
interfere
with
the
use
and
enjoyment
of
the
properties,
nor
will
it
have
a
negative
impact
on
property
values
or
on
the
aesthetics,
particularly
with
our
clients.
S
W
No
ma'am
we've
been
very
consistent
up
there
and
to
be
transparent
about
it.
It's
kind
of
hinges
on
gm,
as
you
guys
can
imagine.
If
gm
has
a
project
like
they
do
now
or
tend
to
be
a
little
bit
busier,
but
then,
when
they
don't
have
projects,
we
tend
to
fall
back
I've
only
manned.
I
only
have
six
trucks
at
this
location
that
are
running.
It
is
a
shop.
W
G
W
It
will
only
be
for
my
equipment
and
not
to
expand
on
this,
but
my
idea
here
on
the
barn
was
I
real
first,
I
really
like
it
the
look
and
it's
fits
the
agricultural
area
and
we've
always
been
good
neighbors.
We
always
will
be
good
neighbors,
so
I
would
anticipate
putting
as
much
blockage
so
that
no
one
can
see
back
and
then,
of
course,
on
the
route,
a
side
that's
already
grown
up.
So
I'll
be
honest,
I
don't
know
if
the
museum
no
we're
there
other
than
a
nice
looking
barn
office.
W
Why
we'd
like
to
buy
this
is,
quite
frankly
we're
just
getting
tired
of
paying
rent
and
so
I'm
being
transparent,
so
we'd
like
to
build
on
this.
This
is
much
smaller
than
what
we're
on
now,
but
we
just
don't.
This
is
plenty
of
space
for
us
and
it's
you
know
project's
gonna
take
us
a
year
or
so
to
get
it
done,
but
I
think
once
it's
done
we'll
all
be
very
proud
of
it.
Okay,.
J
W
J
W
J
W
That's
right
and
to
address
too,
there
is
a
washout
system
on
there
already.
If
we
go
back
to
that
one
plan,
so
as
the
trucks-
and
I
can
walk
up
there
and
kind
of
show
you
guys
just
real
quick
sure
sure
go
back
to
the
concept.
Oh
I'm
going
to
take
the
microphone
yeah
I'll,
speak
black.
You
guys
here
yeah
sure,
okay,
so
this
is
the
shop.
This
is
the
khaki
plant.
The
trucks
load
right
there,
so
the
trucks
will
load
with
the
material
come
out
here
back
into
this
washout
area.
C
X
W
B
S
K
B
Next
item
on
our
agenda
is
conditional,
use,
permit
application,
number
cup
21-12
property
owner
is
birdie
incorporated,
the
applicant
is
bruce
kinder
of
wilkie
properties,
truck
storage
requested
use
is
automobile,
boat
truck
and
recreational
vehicle
storage.
The
property
zoning
is
light,
industrial
district
parcel
size
is
3.0
acres,
the
location
is
2115
joseph
hill
road,
which
is
the
south
half
of
lot
2b
on
the
west
side
of
josephine
road,
south
of
mexico,
road
and
east
of
the
general
motors
plant
located
in
council
district
1.
staff.
E
E
I
did
mention
I
did
not
mention
the
front.
Landscaping
will
always
be
required
along
the
frontage
along
josephine
road,
however,
between
industrial
properties,
no
burning
or
landscaping
is
required,
so
this
applicant
is
proposing
a
fence
around
the
property
and
the
storage
would
take
place
in
this
area
and
also
under
a
covered
building
under
the
covered
building.
There
would
be
approximately
20
items
such
as
boats,
trucks,
rvs
and
then
out
in
the
main
part
of
this
area.
Right
now,
they're.
E
Potentially,
they
are
asking
for
45
vehicles
up
to
45
vehicles
to
be
located
there
again,
they're
meeting
their
detention,
storm
water
required
area
both
of
these
properties,
which
I
didn't
mention
on
the
last
one,
but
they
will
both
have
to
have
a
septic
system
for
their
office.
Building
the
building
code
enforcement
division
will
work
with
them
on
that,
and
water
will
also
be
obtained,
I
believe
by
well.
E
Well,
the
previous
one,
even
though
we're
not
talking
about
that
under
hearing
and
oath
right
now,
would
I
possibly
use
trucked
in
water.
This
one
would
would
be
reliant
on
a
simply
quel's
system,
since
it's
just
for
the
office
use
in
there,
and
I
don't
believe,
there's
going
to
be
a
large
amount
of
personnel
going
into
that
building
the
entrance
into
the
parking
will
have
a
knocks
box
for
emergency
access
and
with
that
staff
is
recommending
approval.
E
I'm
sorry
this
time
I
will
mention
there
are
six
conditions
that
staff
is
recommending
a
site
plan,
in
conformance
with
the
attached
concept
plan,
trees
shall
be
maintained
in
a
healthy
condition.
No
hazardous
materials
may
be
stored
on
the
property,
as
determined
by
the
county's
building
and
code
enforcement
division
directors.
E
B
J
For
whatever
reason,
because
we've
approved
a
lot
of
these
storage
units,
I
don't
know
that
there's
any
absorption,
formal
absorption
study-
that's
been
done
on
that
type
of
unit,
but
is
there
any
other
use
or
interim
use?
That's
allowed
other
than
what
we're
specifically
voting
on
for
this
particular
facility.
E
Well,
as
mentioned
a
an
office
building
could
be
located
in
general,
commercial
zoning,
so
that
would
be
a
permissive
use
and-
and
I
don't
know
that,
if
they
plan
to
expand
any
heavier
uses
again,
would
probably
require
annexation
and
utility
access
for
water
and
sewer,
so
our
in
the
county,
they
tend
to
stay
unless
they
have
those
services
they
they
tend
to
stay
along.
The
the
low
impact.
B
H
H
H
The
requested
conditional
use
permit
again
is
to
operate
outdoor
storage
facility
for
trucks,
boats
and
rvs
staff
recommended
approval
of
the
conditional
use.
Permit
with
the
conditions
listed
here,
which
I
believe
there
are
no
objections
to
the
proposed
concept
plan,
as
shown
by
staff
again,
this
is
the
southern
part
of
the
newly
created
lot.
Two
shows
a
metal
office
building
up
near
the
front,
with
a
large
garage
for
the
storage
of
approximately
20
vehicles
towards
the
back
of
the
property.
H
There's
another
shot
of
the
concept
plan.
Again,
you
can
see
the
drainage
areas
and
the
proposed
buildings.
The
buildings
proposed
by
the
applicant
would
be
metal
buildings.
The
office
building
the
front
would
be
a
bit
larger
and
again
would
have
an
appearance.
You
know
kind
of
a
barn-like
appearance,
similar
to
what
the
previous
applicant
had
with
the
garage
in
the
back
being
three-sided.
H
H
X
I
have
been
running
at
215
joseph
for
over
a
year.
Now,
that's
what
I've
been
running
my
office
out
of
and
when
the
property
became
available.
I
didn't
need
that
much
property
in
had
come
to
me
and
proposed
that
we
go
together
and
split
it
like
like
you're,
seeing
right
here
and
with
me,
and
I
need
three
acres.
C
X
B
J
B
B
C
Y
B
B
Yeah
now
we're
at
preliminary
platform
hunting
keller,
creek
subdivision,
35
laurel
hill
road.
The
application
number
is
pre,
21-06,
the
property
owner
developers,
chad,
a
keller
engineer,
surveyors
cardinal
surveying
and
acting
incorporated.
The
property
zoning
is
r1e
single
family
residential
district
proposed
lots
is
two.
E
E
E
E
We
do
not
consider
it
still
part
of
this
subdivision,
although
technically
it's
listed
as
part
of
the
old
common
ground,
but
the
owner
lives
at
35,
laura
hill
road,
so
he
has
adjusted
and
is
in
process
of
adjusting
that
boundary.
So
this
is
not
accurate
right
here.
The
plat
better
represents
how
these
two
tracks
will
be
divided
and
how
this
line
has
been
moved
over
and
I'm
not
sure
if
it
was
moved
upwards,
but
the
main
development.
The
two
homes
would
be
located
right
here.
E
They
would
not
be
part
of
the
hunting
creek
subdivision,
but
they
are
going
to
be
located
on
that
street,
which
tends
to
be
a
slower
speed,
limit
25
mile
per
hour,
so
adding
the
two
additional
driveways
on
that
road
is
not
something
similar
as
to
adding
two
on
laura
hill
road,
so
staff
has
reviewed
there
is
the
property
is
going
to
be
divided
all
the
way
back.
So
they'll
have
a
very
odd
shaped
lot,
but
this
is
really
not
usable
ground.
It
kind
of
goes
down
and
then
eventually
drains
to
the
creek.
E
B
B
C
C
A
B
C
A
X
B
A
B
B
B
B
Right,
the
property
owner
developer
is
ron
riggy
engineer,
surveyors
alta
land
surveyors
property.
Zoning
is
r1e
single
family
residential
district
proposed
lots
is
three
parcel.
Size
is
1.25
acres
locations
on
the
south
side
of
hickory,
dale
drive
approximately
500
feet
west
of
lebonta
drive
located
in
council
district
7
staff.
R
R
R
We
believe
that
the
parcel
lines
are
incorrect
on
our
aerial
map
and
that
that's
actually
on
the
properties
to
the
west.
But
we
would
need
our
the
survey
to
clarify
that
for
us
to
make
sure
there's
no
any
no
easements
needed
there,
but
besides
that
it
does
meet
all
technical
requirements
for
resubdivision.
B
R
B
A
AA
AA
Which
is
okay:
here
we
go
so
in
overlaying
our
survey
onto
the
gis
site.
We
did
discover
that
it
was
over
and
that
that
should
not
be
an
issue
or
a
concern
or
need
an
easement.
It's
actually,
I
believe,
about
a
foot
or
two
away
from
our
property
line,
so
that
gravel
road
should
not
be
an
item
of
issue.
So.
A
B
B
AB
My
property
backs
up
to
this
property,
I'm
a
little
low-tech
how's.
This
thing
work
come
on
and
I'm
right
here
and
we
have
an
extreme
water
runoff
problem
from
this
property.
All
of
us
down
lands
in
circle
here
and
I'm
concerned
with
this
being
divided
and
more
houses
going
in
there,
the
problem's
going
to
get
worse,
I
mean
here's
a
picture
from
july
10th.
AB
Water
comes
off
in
this
property
and
I'm
the
original
owner
I've
been
fighting
for
25
years.
You
say
I'm
getting
a
little
tired
of
it
and
with
them
subdividing
this
property
and
put
more
houses
in
there.
I'm
afraid
this
problem
is
going
to
worsen
and
that's
my
major
concern.
Maybe
they
could
put
a
sword
line
in
the
back
and
pipe
it
to
3r
street
or
something
like
that
but,
like
I
said,
I'm
afraid
it's
gonna
get
worse
any
questions.
J
B
AC
AC
V
V
Well,
actually
like
right,
where
we're
at
when
we
put
a
fence
up
so
we're
right
here
at
960.,
and
we
put
a
fence
up
this
past
year
and
found
that
there
was
a
huge
like
big
drainage
pipe
and
it
went
down
on
the
side
of
our
property,
also
into
our
yard.
Right
and
we
didn't
know
anyone
to
contact
because
the
person
had
died.
And
you
know.
V
V
AC
Q
H
A
V
AC
C
I
AC
AA
Q
C
E
Q
So,
just
to
give
you
guys
a
little
bit
of
you
know
comfort.
We
we've
been
working
on
this
for
years
and
years
and
so
with
the
staff
and
that
we
have
they're
going
to
look
at
it
and
make
sure
that
you're
not
going
to
get
additional
runoff
from
those
properties.
It's
just
one
of
the
rules.
We
don't
want
water
coming
on
to
other
people's
property.
When
we
have
building
like
this
and
there's
new
rules
in
place,
I
don't
know
all
of
them,
but
it
just
just
for
comfort
reason.
Q
You
should
be
you're,
probably
going
to
be
better.
That's
that's!
The
goal
is
to
make
it
better
for
you
guys
too.
So,
hopefully
that
is,
but
if
you're
having
problems
with
water,
come
down
the
county
and
talk
to
them,
see
if
there's
anything
you
can
do.
I
don't
I
don't
know
all
the
departments
that
have
stuff
to
do,
but
that's
what
I'd
recommend,
I'm
not
sure
which
which
department's
response
for
some
something
like
that
especially
got
a
drainage
problem,
community
development,
community
development,
so
you're
you're
coming
to
this
group.
Q
J
B
J
C
C
O
A
B
So
our
next
application
is
a
rezoning
request.
North
point,
prairie
road
application-
number
rz21-08,
the
property
owner-
is
a
howard,
chillcut
trust
applicant
of
joseph
pringer
restaurant
agent
for
kj
storage.
Llc
current
zoning
is
c1
neighborhood
commercial
district.
The
request
is
owning
a
c2
general
commercial
district.
The
2030
master
plan
recommends
low
density
residential
uses.
One
to
four
units
per
acre
parcel
size
is
approximately
3.43
acres.
The
location
is
on
the
southeast
corner
of
the
intersection
of
north
point
prairie
road
and
highway
61
near
the
cities
of
wentzville
and
flint
hill
located
in
council
district.
A
R
R
For
whatever
reason
it
was
never
realized
and
later
that
same
year
they
did
a
re-conditional
use
permit
for
a
single-family
dwelling
unit
on
the
property.
So
that's
what
you
see
there
in
our
on
our
number
system
on
the
on
the
map
and
that
single
family
home
was
never
constructed
for
whatever
reason.
R
This
particular
request
to
re-zone
to
c2
general
commercial
does
not
currently
match
with
our
future
land
use
plan.
The
future
land
use
plan
does
show
for
this
property
to
be
low
density,
residential
east
of
point
north
point.
Prairie
lands
to
the
west
do
show
commercial,
but
they
are
towards
that
hub
of
highway,
w
and
and
the
other
highway
there.
So
so
on
that
point,
it
does
not
does
not
meet
the
future
land
use
plan
and
then
the
second
point
that
we
have
is
there's
a
a
major
highway
improvement
plan.
That's
proceeding
forward
here.
R
So
as
a
result
of
of
that,
staff
recommends
that
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
recommend
denial
for
this
zoning
map
amendment,
because
it's
inconsistent
with
the
2030
future
land
use
plan
and
is
not
supported
by
a
planned
upgrade
of
highway
61
with
the
construction
of
a
service
outer
road.
Any
questions.
B
B
AE
AD
Yeah,
like
staff,
said
we
were
proposing
to
put
a
storage
facility
right
there,
outdoor
storage
and
when
we
were
here
in
may,
we
had
buildings
proposed
for
the
site.
We
were
going
to
do.
You
know
mini
storage
and
we
had
just
previously
the
week
or
two
before
the
meeting
we
had
found
out
about
the
highway
61
project,
the
outer
road,
so
we
removed
the
buildings
and
just
basically
using
this
property
as
a
transitional
property.
AD
You
know
until
future
needs
are
needed
or
you
know
for
the
improvements
for
that
need,
but
I
know
that
the
2030
is
leaning
towards
a
low
residential,
but
I'm
not.
I
can't
say
this
for
a
fact,
but
I
have
a
feeling
that
it's
not
going
to
because,
like
the
2030
plan,
shows
that
all
residential,
but
right
underneath
that
subject
property
existing
zoning
box-
that's
amaron's
substation,
so
I
I
highly
doubt
that's
ever
going
to
be
residential
and
just
to
the
north
of
that
is
a
30-acre
track.
AD
AD
So
I
don't
see
how
that
I
don't
see
how
the
city
would
ever
annex
that,
like
mr
doug,
four
back
from
the
city
said,
I
just
I
don't
see
that
happening
with
the
amaran
substation
right
there
and
it's
right
on
the
highway.
I
don't
see
who's
going
to
want
to
live
directly
on
the
highway
and
as
far
as
taking
over
half
of
the
property,
from
what
I
saw
from
the
plan
was
110
foot
off
the
current
shoulder.
AD
I
think
the
the
property
line
is
in
the
neighborhood
of
75
feet
to
80
feet
off
the
current
shoulder
so
you're
only
talking
about
another
30
feet.
You
know
which
isn't
a
huge
deal
for
me
if,
if
this
were
to
go
through,
you
know
and-
and
that
was
kind
of
some
of
the
reason
why
I
removed
the
building,
so
it
wouldn't
be
in
the
way
of
a
future
project.
S
AD
It
would
be
gated
fence,
light,
lit
security
cameras
and
we've
proposed.
I
think
it
was
50
trees
around
it,
which
I
would
almost
propose
leaving.
What's
there,
you
can
hardly
see
it
from
the
highway
with
all
the
weeds
and
brush
that's
there
now.
It
wouldn't
do
me
any
good,
but
it
might
do
the
neighbors
some
guy,
but
you
know
I've
spoken
with
all
my
neighbors,
mr
watson,
directly
across
the
street
to
small
square,
mr
karen
brock,
that
owns
the
55
acres.
AD
I
spoke
with
him
beck's
properties
on
the
other
side
of
the
hamrin
property.
I
spoke
with
him
and
I
talked
to
two
neighbors
on
the
other
side
of
the
highway
and
everybody
was
for
the
building
whether
or
not
they
wrote
a
letter
like
they
said
they
would
that's.
That
is
what
it
is,
but
I
didn't
find
any
opposition.
AD
AD
AE
There's
approximately
105,
I
think,
on
this
plane,
there's
103..
So
this
is
the
subject
property
here,
which
is
about
3.4
acres,
which,
if
you
go
to
now,
this
is
the
comprehensive.
The
the
2030
plan.
That
parcel
is
right
here:
existing
zoning
commercial.
So
there's
about
103
lot,
storage
spaces
on
that
property
that
we're
proposing.
AE
Right
but
these
storage-
I
don't
know
I've-
been
doing
a
lot
of
storage
lots.
Lately.
I
tend
to
look
at
these
things,
but
and
have
got
some
information
from
the
traffic
institute
and
that
for
different.
You
know
different
sorry,
different
municipalities
and
for
a
facility
of
this
size
from
say,
99
units
to
about
400.
I
think
it
is.
They
estimate
15
trips
a
day
roughly,
so
it
is
actually
a
fairly
low
impact
use.
I
mean
whenever
I
look
over
at
one.
I
think
I
want
to
say
95
of
the
time.
AE
Traffic-
and
you
know
talking
about
just
real
quick
back
to
the
zoning
with
this-
is
the
2030
plan.
I
want
if
everybody
and
this
whole
red
area
is
proposed
commercial
and
there
is
some
existing
commercial
up
at
highway,
w
coming
all
the
way
down
the
frontage
of
61,
with
even
with
some
multi-family,
you
know
as
another
transition
from
commercial
to
multi-family
before
you
get
what
they're
proposing
as
low
density
residential.
So
for
some
reason
this
three
acre
lot
was
left
as
low
low
density
residential,
which
is
one
to
four
units
per
acre.
AE
I
have
to
question:
you
know
why
that
was.
Was
it
an
oversight
or
was
it
truly
just
everything
south
of
point?
Prairie
is
just
going
to
be
low
density
residential,
but
this
zoning
is
even
though
it's
not
really
shown
on
this.
This
our
zoning
is
existing
c1
zoning,
so
we
are
requesting
that
that
zoning
change,
but
typically
right
along
highway
61
you
would
or
any
major
highway
like
that.
You
would
have
some
type
of
transitional
zoning
before
you
got
the
low
density
residential.
AE
B
AA
D
For
the
record,
my
name
is
john
fitzpatrick.
I
live
at
102
talon
court,
winsville,
missouri
63385.
I
can
show
you
my
property
where
I'm
located
up
there.
If
you
leave
that
diagram
up
there,
I'm
not
opposed
to
you
know
developing
and
all
that
stuff
coming
through.
However,
this
was
kind
of
tried
and
another
end
here
here
and
I'll
get
state
some
of
those
things
that
why
I
would
not
want
that
to
be
there.
D
Y
D
That's
perfect,
okay,
my
property
is
right
here
and
my
neighbor
right
there
and
my
other
neighbor
right
there.
Their
property
backs
up
to
the
highway.
Now
it's
almost
every
couple
of
less
than
a
couple
of
weeks.
We
have
an
accident
because
of
this
highway
right
here,
where
it
makes
this
bend
right.
Here
I
mean
there's
been
the
tractor
trailer
truck
that
dropped
alcohol
there,
and
this
can
all
be
verified
through
the
state
of
missouri,
the
charles
county
and
the
winsfield
police
they're
always
down
there.
D
D
In
fact,
we
were
looking
at
something
because
I
just
tonight
being
at
this
right
here-
I
heard
where
they
were
proposing
from
up
this
way
up
here,
to
put
an
outer
road
back
up
this
way
and
use
the
crossover
and
they're
talking
about
doing
those
u-turn
lanes.
Well,
those
those
don't
those
don't
work.
The
way
that
they
think
they
should
my
question
would
be
once
you
start
trying
to
park
units
in
here
where
you
get
off
the
highway
right
here.
D
D
Well,
we
have
to
get
on
the
highway
right
here
at
mchugh
road
and
that's
a
crossover
that
they
left
open.
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
accidents
have
been
there.
Our
my
next
door,
neighbor
was
hit
by
a
car
using
making,
supposedly
that
you
turn
lane
there
the,
but
the
problem,
I
see,
that's
that's
happening.
D
Is
you
increase
that
traffic
and
without
the
proper
roadways
out
there
you're
going
to
have
more
turning
traffic,
which
is
going
to
increase
the
accident
level?
So
when
you
get
to
that,
you've
got
now.
You've
got
st
charles
county.
You've
got
the
state
of
missouri,
you've
got
the
winsfield
school
district
all
have
buses,
and
if
this
is
all
going
to
be
residential,
there's
going
to
be
lawsuits
down
the
road
for
saint
charles
county,
the
state
of
missouri
and
the
winsfield
school
district.
D
When
a
school
bus
gets
hit
on
the
highway
because
they
can't
get
on
and
off
properly,
is
it
going
to
happen?
I
don't
have
a
crystal
ball,
but
I
understand
from
listening
to
what
you
said
tonight
about
all
the
other
areas
that
they
have
storage
unit.
In
I
mean
I'm
not
opposed
to
people
having
developments
and
stuff
like
that,
but
I
call
it
a
common
sense
thing.
D
So
unless
the
state
modot
is
going
to
put
in
that
outer
road
to
come
down
along
here
to
allow
the
traffic
to
be
able
to
cross
over
the
overpass
and
do
that-
it's
probably
the
biggest
mistake,
because
it's
just
lawsuits
waiting
to
happen-
and
I
guess
I'll
I
would.
I
would
always
come
back
to
the
commission.
When
those
all
happen.
They
say:
oh
well,
we
shouldn't
okay,
I'm
saying
well,
you
know
I
was
at
this
meeting
and
I
told
you
so
I
mean
I
can
think
of.
D
I
lived
in
other
areas
and
I
I
went
to
two
state
meetings
and
one
of
them
was
involving
the
271
70
and
I
told
him
I
said
you
elevated
six
lanes
of
highway
and
you
expect
people
to
cross
over
the
highway.
I've
lived
there
all
my
life,
I
said
mistake
and
I
said
I'll
be
back
to
your
next
meeting.
When
you
decide
to
build
the
overpass
and
drop
the
highway
back
down
sure
enough,
it
took
a
tractor-trailer
truck
going
over
the
top
of
cars
and
tying
up
the
traffic
and
guess
what
they
did
exactly.
D
D
So
with
this
all
being
commercial
area,
I
mean
this
being
residential
area,
because
I
know
this
is
residential
right
here
I
know
the
school
bus
come
out.
The
kids
in
this
subdivision
are
getting
older,
so
there's
there's
more
bus
runs
because
you've
got
after
school.
Sports.
You've
got
at
midday
kindergarten.
All
of
that
and
the
potential
is
even
up
here
to
this
area.
Right
up
here
is
probably
more
residential,
more
residential
here.
D
So
if
that
facility
right
there
was
built
over
here,
someplace
in
some
ground
might
be
a
better
spot
for
it,
because
you've
got
you're
off
the
highway,
then
and
you're
not
going
to
have
it's
a
you
know
a
smaller
road.
I
don't
know
you
know
what
the
potential
is
but,
like
I
said,
unless
modot
is
going
to
build
that
outer
road
right
there
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
lawsuits
down
the
road,
and
I
mean
I
wouldn't.
D
I
wouldn't
want
to
see
these
guys
if
they
own
that
property
getting
sued,
because
it's
a
direct
result,
if
they
don't
also,
I
would
think
if
they
don't
make
improvements
too,
so
I
mean
that
that's
a
fifth
one
I
just
now
thought
of
it.
Thinking
well
take
them
into
consideration
too.
So
that's
the
only
thing
I
have
to
say,
and
hopefully
you
know
I'll
just
go
back
to
the
old
common
sense.
Let
me
fill.
B
B
AD
AD
I
do
agree
100
with
what
he's
saying
and
at
the
the
last
meeting
that
we
were
attending,
that
they
were
going
to
start
on
those
roundabouts
next
year
at
highway,
w
and
get
rid
of
the
crossing
there
at
point
prairie,
which
would
from
what
I
understood.
They
were
going
to
put
a
service
row
between
w
and
point
prairie.
S
T
S
C
C
AE
Correct
from
100
to
it's
either
399
or
499
units.
Okay,
they
have
it.
It's
a
fairly
low
impact
impact
to
you.
So
I
know
that
still
adds
traffic.
But
if
you
were
to
come
in
with,
I
would
say,
I
don't
know
the
code
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
almost
any
other
development
would
probably
generate
more
traffic
than
this
yeah.
B
Q
AC
S
I
K
K
AD
G
AD
C
C
C
AE
A
AE
AD
AE
C
AE
K
J
You
know
I
think
too,
in
addition
to
the
things
I
already
discussed,
there
was
a
proposal
for
one
off
mccuden
road
a
couple
of
years
ago
and
the
safety
issues
that
we're
concerned
then
are
worse
now,
there's
more
development,
more
cars
and
things
like
that
and
those
the
large
vehicles
crossing
over
that
highway.
When
people
it's
listed,
I
think
it's
60
and
people
are
probably
doing
like
80..
I
think
it's
problematic.
S
That
are
there
deadly
accidents
person,
my
fam,
my
son,
was
hit
there
and
somebody
trying
to
turn
around
people
who
live
in
this
division.
They
live
in,
get
in
accidents.
It's
it's
until
there
is
improvement
done
with
the
roads
there
until
the
roadways
come
is
adding
that
much
more
traffic
is
just
not
responsible.
I
don't.
B
K
A
A
B
Okay,
the
next
thing
on
our
agenda
is
conditional
use,
permit
request
north
prairie
north
point
prairie
road
application,
number
cup
21-08
property
owner
is
the
howard
chilcott
trust
applicant
is
joseph
pringer
restaurant
agent
for
kj
storage.
Llc
current
zoning
is
c1
neighborhood
commercial
district.
That's
not
ordered
right
yeah.
Is
it
yeah
yeah?
B
Oh
okay,
yeah
the
question
zoning
is
c2
general
commercial
district,
which
is
not
an
issue.
2030
recommends
the
2030
master
plan
recommends
low
destiny,
residential
uses,
one
to
four
units
per
acre.
The
conditional
use
request
is
outdoor
storage
for
automobiles
boats,
trucks,
trailers
and
recreational
vehicles.
Fossil
size
is
approximately
3.43
acres.
The
location
is
on
the
southeast
corner
of
the
intersection
of
north
point
prairie
road
and
highway
61
near
the
cities
of
wentzville
and
flint
hill,
okay.
B
R
Okay,
so
staff
will
note
that
in
this
particular
application,
as
the
applicant
had
stated
earlier
in
the
meeting,
they
have
modified
this
application
to
remove
the
many
many
warehouse
self
storage
off
the
western
side
of
this
lot.
So
we
are
now
down
to
just
the
the
vehicle
storage
on
this
lot.
I
believe
they
mentioned
101
parking
spaces
that
they're
looking
to
to
have
here
again.
We'll
staff
will
note
that
the
future
potential
highway
project
impact
here
could
have
a
major
impact
on
the
property.
R
R
R
B
B
AE
We
do
have
a
basin
on
the
east
side
for
storm
water,
storm,
water,
detention
and
quality
per
the
new
ordinance
that
is
approved
and
again
there
was
a
303
storage
units
or
storage
lots
on
this
particular
site
plan.
The
only
we
we're
showing
10
foot
of
right-of-way
dedication,
as
requested
by
staff
on
the
on
the
east
side
of
point
prairie
road
and
happy
to
answer
any
questions
or
additional
questions
that
there
may
be
have
or
any
questions.
A
B
B
J
B
Q
C
K
C
K
B
A
B
Y
Yes,
I
remember,
from
the
last
meeting
commissioner
ellis
had
prepared
some
proposed
rules.
I
went
ahead
and
took
those
and
also
incorporated
some
requirements
under
our
ordinances
and
other
local
state
law
and
incorporated
them
into
a
resolution
resolution
here.
It
is
just
a
draft
resolution
at
this
time.
I
want
to
present
it
for
your
review.
I've
created
copies
for
everybody
with
also
my
information
on
it.
If
you
all
have
any
comments,
questions
concerns
by
all
means
contact
me
I'll,
be
happy
to
answer
them
or
address
them.